1 00:01:24,730 --> 00:01:26,690 Hi. Nice to meet you. - Hello, Mr. President. How are you today? 2 00:01:26,690 --> 00:01:28,650 Yeah? 3 00:01:33,070 --> 00:01:35,360 I'm... tired today, a little bit. 4 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,700 I didn't sleep well. 5 00:01:40,910 --> 00:01:43,200 Yeah, but your muscles hurt. 6 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,910 I took a nice walk. 7 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,540 I took a nice walk with my wife in the park. 8 00:01:50,540 --> 00:01:54,130 And I was thinking about Sochi in the fourth century BC, 9 00:01:54,130 --> 00:01:55,550 what it must have been like here. 10 00:02:07,390 --> 00:02:08,710 Is that your... Is that his home? 11 00:02:10,900 --> 00:02:14,070 It's pretty. 12 00:02:14,070 --> 00:02:16,070 Pretty, peaceful here. Do you want to talk out here? 13 00:02:16,070 --> 00:02:18,280 I mean, uh, tell him I'm fine either way. 14 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,290 Can we start? 15 00:02:22,780 --> 00:02:23,780 Should we go in that way? 16 00:02:23,790 --> 00:02:27,790 - Yeah. All right. - Just, you know. Let's... 17 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,790 This was a rehearsal out here. 18 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,720 I wanted to go over the Ukraine crisis. 19 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,390 We've had this discussion before on my first visit, on the terrorists. 20 00:02:47,390 --> 00:02:49,810 I wanted to go over it, just to be really clear, 21 00:02:49,810 --> 00:02:51,230 because this is very important to the, uh... 22 00:02:51,230 --> 00:02:54,150 to people who will be watching this show. 23 00:05:59,130 --> 00:06:02,170 Both EU and Ukrainian officials said on Thursday, 24 00:06:02,170 --> 00:06:05,170 the suspension of talks on closer ties could be revived 25 00:06:05,170 --> 00:06:07,050 after the two-day meeting, 26 00:06:07,050 --> 00:06:10,760 but officials said the deal was off the table for now. 27 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,930 From November to February 20th, 28 00:06:49,930 --> 00:06:53,930 2013 into 14, there was quite a bit of protest. 29 00:06:53,930 --> 00:06:56,930 I remember him vividly on television saying it was 30 00:06:56,930 --> 00:06:58,680 a coup in slow motion. 31 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,060 It was pretty evident, transparent to the Russians. 32 00:07:03,060 --> 00:07:06,440 The Ukraine to us was not... We were not paying attention. 33 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:10,740 No... Yeah. 34 00:07:11,860 --> 00:07:12,860 Of course. Of course. 35 00:07:41,730 --> 00:07:46,440 For weeks, this European capital has been the scene of a violent uprising. 36 00:07:48,030 --> 00:07:50,110 Today, the bloodiest day yet. 37 00:07:50,110 --> 00:07:52,450 The protesters are pushing up towards the government district, 38 00:07:52,450 --> 00:07:54,660 armed here with Molotov cocktails, 39 00:07:54,660 --> 00:07:57,740 but we saw handguns and shotguns too. 40 00:07:57,740 --> 00:08:00,160 There is absolutely no doubt that snipers are working here. 41 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,210 I've counted ten bodies. 42 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,170 There are casualties on both sides. 43 00:08:15,340 --> 00:08:18,720 Well, she just said that there are six dead people up there. 44 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,100 Not just injured, dead. They say they've been hit by snipers. 45 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:23,480 Fourteen policemen dead and 43 wounded? 46 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,310 During the Maidan Massacre, 47 00:08:26,310 --> 00:08:28,900 did you get any intelligence of what was going on? 48 00:08:28,900 --> 00:08:30,070 It's the strangest massacre 49 00:08:30,070 --> 00:08:33,240 because of the number of casualties of policemen 50 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,820 and the civilians who were killed indicates... 51 00:08:36,820 --> 00:08:39,160 And the policemen not firing back, 52 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,830 they were retreating and called back by Yanukovych. 53 00:08:41,830 --> 00:08:43,660 During that, it seems like there was this... 54 00:08:43,660 --> 00:08:47,380 A sniper force that was definitely aiming 55 00:08:47,380 --> 00:08:49,880 at the policemen and the civilians to create 56 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,340 the chaos necessary for the takeover. 57 00:09:39,930 --> 00:09:41,090 Well, who were these snipers? 58 00:09:56,490 --> 00:10:00,740 Have you heard any reports about the training that was going on in other cities 59 00:10:00,740 --> 00:10:05,750 of battalion, of, uh, certain Right-party Sectors? 60 00:10:05,750 --> 00:10:08,370 Hardened, uh, people of the right? 61 00:10:08,370 --> 00:10:11,460 Hundred-man units came to the city, I am told 62 00:10:11,460 --> 00:10:14,800 in the days before the, uh, the Maidan. 63 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,520 It was characterized in the US press 64 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,900 as if Yanukovych abandoned Kiev. 65 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:08,590 Ukraine's parliament has voted for the new speaker of the assembly 66 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,760 to become interim president. 67 00:13:11,770 --> 00:13:13,100 Oleksandr Turchynov called on lawmakers 68 00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:16,810 to form an interim government by Tuesday. 69 00:13:16,810 --> 00:13:19,480 These latest developments follow the dismissal 70 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,740 of president Viktor Yanukovych on Saturday. 71 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,160 I'd like to ask is, Mr. Obama during this period, 72 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,120 what kind of communications did you have with him? 73 00:15:47,420 --> 00:15:49,670 Obviously, you didn't agree. 74 00:16:03,980 --> 00:16:06,690 Are you still talking to him? 75 00:16:21,710 --> 00:16:25,420 Would you say relations, uh, the dialogue is cordial? 76 00:16:28,250 --> 00:16:30,260 Do they see each other visually when they talk? 77 00:17:11,590 --> 00:17:13,170 Yes. May I... So this is just a trivial question, 78 00:17:13,170 --> 00:17:15,090 I've always been curious. Do they call each other 79 00:17:15,090 --> 00:17:18,180 Vladimir and Barack? Or do they call... 80 00:17:21,010 --> 00:17:24,140 First name? That's great. 81 00:17:24,140 --> 00:17:28,020 Can we talk about outside influences in this Ukraine story now? 82 00:17:28,020 --> 00:17:32,020 We know the about the NGOs that were operating in Ukraine. 83 00:17:32,030 --> 00:17:37,950 We know that Victoria Nuland, the undersecretary of state for Eastern Europe, 84 00:17:37,950 --> 00:17:40,200 was very active supporting change in government. 85 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,200 Good to see you. We're here from America. 86 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,410 Would you like some bread? Please, take something. Please. 87 00:17:46,420 --> 00:17:50,210 We've invested over five billion dollars 88 00:17:50,210 --> 00:17:52,710 to assist Ukraine in these and other goals 89 00:17:52,710 --> 00:17:57,050 that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic Ukraine. 90 00:17:57,050 --> 00:17:59,090 We know that Senator John McCain, 91 00:17:59,090 --> 00:18:03,140 visited and was seen at rallies 92 00:18:03,140 --> 00:18:07,270 with extremist leaders, including some neo-Nazis. 93 00:18:07,270 --> 00:18:10,980 This is about the future you want for your country. 94 00:18:10,980 --> 00:18:13,820 This is about the future you deserve. 95 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,530 We know that America 96 00:18:17,530 --> 00:18:19,240 and the National Endowment for Democracy, 97 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,620 which is a, uh, also a very influential pr... 98 00:18:22,620 --> 00:18:29,920 A non-profit, private NGO, was very active, very active here. 99 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,550 Carl Gershman, who was the president of it, made very strong speeches, 100 00:18:34,550 --> 00:18:36,840 uh, he wanted an independent Ukraine. 101 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,050 And we know that the Hungarian billionaire hedge funder, 102 00:18:40,050 --> 00:18:44,350 George Soros was also very involved in supporting 103 00:18:44,350 --> 00:18:46,520 the groups from here, in Ukraine. 104 00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:11,210 In other words, United States can unite... 105 00:19:11,210 --> 00:19:15,210 Can keep a united pro-American Europe, 106 00:19:15,210 --> 00:19:18,380 and NATO, with an external enemy such as Russia. 107 00:19:28,140 --> 00:19:30,430 The final assault came 108 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:31,440 amidst fire and ice, 109 00:19:33,310 --> 00:19:36,400 snipers on rooftops. 110 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,490 The Heavenly Hundred paid the ultimate price of patriots the world over. 111 00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:45,910 Their blood and courage 112 00:19:45,910 --> 00:19:50,370 delivering to the Ukrainian people a second chance for freedom. 113 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,290 Their sacrifice... 114 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,210 to put it bluntly, 115 00:19:57,210 --> 00:20:00,130 is now your obligation. 116 00:20:02,010 --> 00:20:03,930 In hindsight, looking back, 117 00:20:03,930 --> 00:20:07,300 did you make a mistake by annexing Crimea? 118 00:20:07,310 --> 00:20:08,600 Because it cost you tremendously. 119 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:13,770 The sanctions, the whole East EU turns on Russia, the US. 120 00:20:13,770 --> 00:20:17,610 It becomes big news, because it's... it's illegal. 121 00:20:17,610 --> 00:20:20,940 It's regarded as illegal in the international post-war treaty world. 122 00:21:54,750 --> 00:21:58,620 But it does raise questions on whether this vote really is free and fair, 123 00:21:58,630 --> 00:22:01,960 especially given the heavy military presence in Crimea right now. Errol? 124 00:22:32,910 --> 00:22:35,620 More than 95 percent voted to become part of Russia. 125 00:22:35,620 --> 00:22:37,830 Officials said there was an unprecedented turnout, 126 00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:40,710 with at least eight of ten eligible Crimeans having their say. 127 00:23:56,950 --> 00:24:01,290 But economically, as you say, you're self-sufficient. 128 00:24:01,290 --> 00:24:05,580 They're gone. Let them have their problems. 129 00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:07,630 It's not gonna destroy your country. 130 00:24:11,220 --> 00:24:13,090 And at one point, you told me in our last, uh, meeting that, 131 00:24:13,090 --> 00:24:17,760 I asked you, I said what about the, you know, the Russian submarine base 132 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,390 in Crimea at Sevastopol. 133 00:24:19,390 --> 00:24:22,100 He said it wasn't threatened 134 00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:23,850 by the loss of the base. 135 00:24:42,460 --> 00:24:47,290 Even if NATO made an agreement with Ukraine, 136 00:24:47,290 --> 00:24:49,670 I still don't see the threat to Russia, 137 00:24:49,670 --> 00:24:53,300 in a new... with a new, with the new weaponry. 138 00:28:11,580 --> 00:28:13,580 You know, this is a pretty big place you got here. 139 00:28:13,580 --> 00:28:15,080 Can you show me around? 140 00:28:17,340 --> 00:28:18,460 How do they heat this place? 141 00:28:20,300 --> 00:28:22,470 No, don't tell me. 142 00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:24,300 Don't tell me. Don't tell me. 143 00:28:31,060 --> 00:28:34,810 Do you get lonely at night, when you walk the corridors? 144 00:28:39,030 --> 00:28:41,530 I know you have an office here, 145 00:28:41,530 --> 00:28:43,610 because I know... It's hidden away. 146 00:28:43,610 --> 00:28:44,610 I was in it once. 147 00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:50,780 It was Stalin's old office. 148 00:28:52,830 --> 00:28:54,540 Yeah. 149 00:28:54,540 --> 00:28:57,210 Ten years of Munich speech. 150 00:28:57,210 --> 00:28:58,750 He looks good. 151 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,510 Could've been a movie star. 152 00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:05,800 February. 153 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,220 So today's the day you got into trouble. 154 00:29:09,890 --> 00:29:12,230 You had quite an audience. 155 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,910 Is this where you work now? 156 00:29:30,490 --> 00:29:32,010 Do you take meetings in here too? 157 00:29:55,940 --> 00:29:59,100 - Sevastopol, you say? - Yes, sir. 158 00:29:59,110 --> 00:30:01,570 That's why you fought for it. No. 159 00:30:08,030 --> 00:30:10,320 So two desks. How does he use them? 160 00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:17,710 - That's mine. - Yes. Yes. 161 00:30:17,710 --> 00:30:19,710 Ah, that's great. Mm-hmm. 162 00:30:19,710 --> 00:30:22,380 That's my history book, cowritten. 163 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,340 Yeah. Sure. Endless curiosity. 164 00:30:32,260 --> 00:30:34,390 Wow. Oh, I've been here, yes. 165 00:30:34,390 --> 00:30:35,830 This is where we had our first night. 166 00:30:37,310 --> 00:30:39,390 It was our first night. 167 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,900 Remember, Dmitry? We started there. 168 00:30:43,940 --> 00:30:46,740 So, three different offices. 169 00:30:46,740 --> 00:30:47,740 Yep. 170 00:30:51,030 --> 00:30:55,580 Last time we talked about, uh, surveillance, mass-surveillance. 171 00:30:55,580 --> 00:30:58,000 I had the impression you were against it, 172 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,370 and you deplored the American technique. 173 00:31:00,370 --> 00:31:02,880 And as our Snowden movie pointed out, 174 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,800 it was selected targeting, would work best on terrorists. 175 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,380 And since that conversation, I've been away, coming back and I... 176 00:31:09,380 --> 00:31:13,430 There is a new law in Russia that I've heard that has been signed by you, 177 00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:16,020 what they call... has been nicknamed the Big Brother law... 178 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,690 that provides for mass surveillance techniques. 179 00:31:20,690 --> 00:31:24,650 I'm surprised. Snowden has condemned them here, in Russia. He's condemned them. 180 00:31:39,580 --> 00:31:40,580 Right. 181 00:32:48,610 --> 00:32:50,900 But, uh, why? Why are you doing this? 182 00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:53,780 It seems like a dragnet on all Russian citizens. 183 00:33:10,130 --> 00:33:11,210 Yes. 184 00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:46,710 So, situation-type room. 185 00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:49,000 This is, uh, commando raids and stuff? 186 00:34:08,810 --> 00:34:11,150 What happened? 187 00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:43,490 Are those real airplanes back there? 188 00:35:46,990 --> 00:35:49,580 Access to submarines? 189 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,800 So, in conventional military terms, your budget, as you said, 190 00:36:47,810 --> 00:36:50,720 the American budget is 600 billion. 191 00:36:50,730 --> 00:36:52,980 Your annual budget is 66, 192 00:36:52,980 --> 00:36:54,770 according to the Russian statistics. 193 00:36:54,770 --> 00:36:57,360 Sixty-six. That's almost a tenth, 194 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,190 uh, twelve percent roughly of American spending. 195 00:37:00,190 --> 00:37:04,610 The Chinese are at 215 billion, 215. 196 00:37:06,490 --> 00:37:08,410 Saudi Arabia's at 87, 197 00:37:08,410 --> 00:37:12,200 which leaves Russia fourth place at 66. 198 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,790 Is this an accurate figure? 199 00:37:15,540 --> 00:37:18,380 Whoa. Saudi Arabia's spending more money than you are. 200 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,840 How do you do it? I mean, you have quite an army. 201 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,640 I mean, quite an intelligence economy. 202 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,390 But what's the trick? I mean, how do you... 203 00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:34,600 You don't have lobbies that cost a lot of money? 204 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,560 You don't... No graft, no corruption in this thing? 205 00:38:21,860 --> 00:38:22,940 The US makes a lot out of building up. 206 00:38:22,940 --> 00:38:27,450 They keep talking about its antimissile systems. 207 00:38:27,450 --> 00:38:28,950 Is there a reason to believe there's been some kind of breakthrough 208 00:38:28,950 --> 00:38:31,450 in their technology? 209 00:38:31,450 --> 00:38:33,870 Some kind of first-strike superiority? 210 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,970 But they have a, they have a plan... They're doing something. 211 00:38:46,970 --> 00:38:50,390 I feel that they really are working, that they can get an advantage 212 00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:55,010 in which your missile silos would be knocked out on a US first strike. 213 00:38:55,020 --> 00:38:58,020 And we'd be able to absorb whatever you had left to throw at us. 214 00:38:58,020 --> 00:39:00,650 But then we'd warn you 215 00:39:00,650 --> 00:39:02,690 that we're going to be hitting you again with a second strike, 216 00:39:02,690 --> 00:39:06,940 and that would really wipe out your cities, your population, the whole works. 217 00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:31,840 In the matter of Syria, can you describe 218 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,680 what your objective was? 219 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,840 Give us a little history of that and where you are now? 220 00:40:33,950 --> 00:40:36,410 Who's they? The terrorists. 221 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:02,720 This is the biggest concern? 222 00:42:15,010 --> 00:42:16,840 And, uh, the roads that ISIS were using to drive 223 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,720 the trucks to, uh, to Turkey, the oil trucks? 224 00:42:37,860 --> 00:42:38,950 Right. 225 00:42:46,330 --> 00:42:49,080 And you confronted Erdogan with this information, correct? 226 00:42:51,790 --> 00:42:53,880 You were hitting Turkmen areas, 227 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,220 and you didn't tell him, uh, why? 228 00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:11,020 Could you have said in a diplomatic way, 229 00:43:11,020 --> 00:43:13,940 uh, Mr. President, uh, we have information, good information 230 00:43:13,940 --> 00:43:18,150 that the oil is coming into certain places in Turkey, 231 00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:20,700 and we believe that there are elements in Turkey on the border, 232 00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:23,240 smugglers that are cooperating with ISIS 233 00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:26,080 and bringing the oil in, and we're very concerned about that? 234 00:44:20,340 --> 00:44:22,060 Who from the United States was in that room? 235 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,690 So two times a day, tomorrow, uh, today, 236 00:44:34,690 --> 00:44:38,980 you'll give information to NATO as to when the missions are in Syria. 237 00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:44,200 To... Oh, really? Directly. 238 00:44:45,870 --> 00:44:47,700 And you get the same information? 239 00:44:52,330 --> 00:44:55,000 To prevent major catastrophes? 240 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,710 Yeah. This is a dangerous situation. 241 00:45:19,110 --> 00:45:21,110 I know. 242 00:45:40,670 --> 00:45:42,050 So they're illegal. 243 00:45:42,050 --> 00:45:44,550 Any foreign troops coming to Syria 244 00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:46,510 without our invitation... Mmhmm. 245 00:45:46,510 --> 00:45:49,890 Or consultation or permission, they are invaders. 246 00:46:01,980 --> 00:46:06,070 So we have French airplanes, we have British, uh, fighters, 247 00:46:06,070 --> 00:46:09,030 we have Turkish fighters, and now we have... 248 00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:10,230 Is there another one I missed? 249 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,830 Oh, really? Yeah, really so. 250 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,500 Australians? This is... 251 00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:24,420 - And Canada. - Mm. 252 00:46:24,420 --> 00:46:26,760 What about Iran? No Iranian air force? 253 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,600 So, it's pretty hot air space, I'd say. 254 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,890 Uh... 255 00:46:52,410 --> 00:46:54,490 You're making 72 to a 100 airstrikes a day? 256 00:46:54,490 --> 00:46:56,450 Seven days a week? 257 00:46:56,460 --> 00:46:57,460 - Yes. Yes. - Wow. 258 00:46:59,830 --> 00:47:03,130 And, uh... so there must be some progress I would think? 259 00:47:03,130 --> 00:47:05,450 We're not gonna have a Vietnam-type situation here, are we? 260 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,420 You see progress? 261 00:48:05,770 --> 00:48:08,900 It seems to me if you're striking 70 to a 120 times a day 262 00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:12,450 at least two months, that's 60 days. 263 00:48:12,450 --> 00:48:15,830 We're down to four to seven thousand strikes? 264 00:48:15,830 --> 00:48:17,350 How big is ISIS? How big is this thing? 265 00:48:42,770 --> 00:48:44,100 Who's on the ground? 266 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,670 But they don't have Stingers? 267 00:49:08,170 --> 00:49:10,170 These people have fought you before in Afghanistan. 268 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:15,760 Yeah. 269 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,100 So they were surprised? 270 00:49:19,220 --> 00:49:23,140 I think it'd be a good... It's an anti-recruitment poster for ISIS. 271 00:49:23,140 --> 00:49:25,480 You wouldn't want to join ISIS if you saw that poster. 272 00:50:18,620 --> 00:50:19,820 Let's talk about another war situation. 273 00:50:19,820 --> 00:50:22,830 In the Crimean, when the referendum was coming up, 274 00:50:22,830 --> 00:50:26,290 the US destroyer Donald Cook was apparently 275 00:50:26,290 --> 00:50:28,460 coming right into the Black Sea 276 00:50:28,460 --> 00:50:31,380 when it made a U-turn and didn't carry through its mission. 277 00:50:31,380 --> 00:50:34,340 It seems like it was similar to the Cuban Missile Crisis 278 00:50:34,340 --> 00:50:38,550 when the same thing happened where a ship was coming towards 279 00:50:38,550 --> 00:50:40,260 the demarcation line and made a U-turn. 280 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,080 Rising tensions between the US and Russia after a Russian fighter jet 281 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,540 buzzed a US warship in the Black Sea. 282 00:51:07,540 --> 00:51:09,580 ABC Chief Global Affairs Correspondent Martha Raddatz 283 00:51:09,580 --> 00:51:11,460 is tracking this all from Washington. 284 00:51:11,460 --> 00:51:14,380 Martha, this maneuver by the Russian fighter carries echoes of the Cold War. 285 00:51:14,380 --> 00:51:17,210 It certainly does, George. This was a Russian jet 286 00:51:17,220 --> 00:51:19,930 that screamed by a US destroyer in the Black Sea, 287 00:51:19,930 --> 00:51:23,050 not just once but 12 times 288 00:51:23,050 --> 00:51:24,970 over a 90-minute period. 289 00:51:43,740 --> 00:51:45,080 Yeah. 290 00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:05,720 Bastion, was it called? 291 00:52:08,270 --> 00:52:11,100 But this is a big missile. 292 00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:14,940 And the destroyer, the Donald Cook has Tomahawk missiles. 293 00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:22,240 That's probably why it turned around. 294 00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:25,660 But your commander had the authority to fire. 295 00:52:34,750 --> 00:52:36,550 Still, it's a big incident, potentially. 296 00:52:47,260 --> 00:52:50,390 What time frame did all this take place? This challenge? 297 00:53:41,690 --> 00:53:43,690 Was he warned? Was there a warning sent out to him? 298 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,040 All this thing takes place in two minutes? 299 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,540 Thirty minutes? Fifty minutes? 300 00:53:56,330 --> 00:53:59,210 I mean, does this happen all the time? 301 00:53:59,210 --> 00:54:00,880 He sounds very cool. 302 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,260 Were you... Were you contacted? 303 00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:13,560 He admits to the brink. 304 00:54:16,350 --> 00:54:19,230 Well, finally, you're admitting it. 305 00:54:26,740 --> 00:54:28,700 Yeah. 306 00:54:33,580 --> 00:54:34,580 Yes. 307 00:54:42,250 --> 00:54:44,670 At that time, you made a speech. 308 00:54:44,670 --> 00:54:47,760 "This is our historic territory. These are Russian people. 309 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,590 "They are in danger now. 310 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,260 "We can't leave them alone. 311 00:54:53,260 --> 00:54:55,560 "It wasn't us who staged the coup, 312 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,270 "it was done by nationalists 313 00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:59,980 "and people with far-right views. 314 00:54:59,980 --> 00:55:03,320 "You supported them. But where do you live? 315 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,480 "Five thousand miles away. 316 00:55:05,490 --> 00:55:09,150 "But we live here, and it is our land. 317 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,620 "What do you want to fight for there? 318 00:55:11,620 --> 00:55:14,080 "You don't know, do you? But we do know. 319 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,750 And we are ready for it." 320 00:55:17,250 --> 00:55:19,330 Is there any hope? 321 00:55:42,020 --> 00:55:43,440 So he's an optimist. 322 00:57:16,740 --> 00:57:18,830 Or Moscow will be a caliphate. 323 00:57:24,250 --> 00:57:26,080 Thank you. 324 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,540 Well, you came close. 325 00:57:28,540 --> 00:57:30,630 And now you're close again, so it seems to be 326 00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:33,090 a very tense presidency you have.