1 00:00:01,917 --> 00:00:04,042 (tense music) 2 00:00:07,708 --> 00:00:09,125 - I'm Ana Garcia, 3 00:00:09,208 --> 00:00:12,917 and this is "Beyond the Headlines: Surviving Abduction." 4 00:00:13,042 --> 00:00:14,833 - I remember being put in the trunk 5 00:00:14,917 --> 00:00:16,042 and having our wrists taped. 6 00:00:16,042 --> 00:00:18,417 We were blindfolded and shut in a closet. 7 00:00:18,542 --> 00:00:20,958 - He placed me in the pit of an outhouse toilet 8 00:00:21,042 --> 00:00:23,000 and left me for dead. 9 00:00:23,042 --> 00:00:24,708 - [Ana] Shocking firsthand accounts 10 00:00:24,833 --> 00:00:26,667 from the women who survived. 11 00:00:26,750 --> 00:00:29,292 - He said, "Now, I can blow your (bleep) brains out, 12 00:00:29,375 --> 00:00:32,000 or I can slit your (bleep) throat right open." 13 00:00:32,083 --> 00:00:35,667 - I spent so much time being afraid, feeling alone. 14 00:00:35,750 --> 00:00:37,417 - So many people feel shame 15 00:00:37,417 --> 00:00:40,292 and all of these horrific things. 16 00:00:40,375 --> 00:00:41,708 - [Ana] And the ultimate revenge? 17 00:00:41,833 --> 00:00:46,000 Not to only live and tell their stories, but to thrive. 18 00:00:46,125 --> 00:00:47,333 - It's a part of our story, 19 00:00:47,375 --> 00:00:49,125 but he didn't get to ruin our lives. 20 00:00:49,208 --> 00:00:50,833 He ruined his life. 21 00:00:50,875 --> 00:00:54,208 (tense music continues) 22 00:00:55,500 --> 00:00:58,833 - The thought of being abducted, taken from your life, 23 00:00:58,917 --> 00:01:00,625 your family, your friends, 24 00:01:00,708 --> 00:01:04,167 and then thrust into a world of abuse and neglect, 25 00:01:04,250 --> 00:01:09,333 unsure if you will ever be released, is a nightmare. 26 00:01:09,417 --> 00:01:13,167 In 2021, more than 6,500 girls and women 27 00:01:13,208 --> 00:01:15,917 were abducted in the United States. 28 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,167 Most kidnappings are typically committed 29 00:01:18,250 --> 00:01:20,958 by someone close to the victim, 30 00:01:21,083 --> 00:01:23,250 but the cases that we are going to examine 31 00:01:23,333 --> 00:01:27,167 in this hour explore a different kind of terror, 32 00:01:27,208 --> 00:01:31,167 abduction and imprisonment by a stranger. 33 00:01:31,250 --> 00:01:34,042 We'll meet a teenager who developed a twisted bond 34 00:01:34,042 --> 00:01:35,083 with her abductor. 35 00:01:35,083 --> 00:01:37,000 And a mother and daughter 36 00:01:37,125 --> 00:01:40,292 whose faith kept them going through 53 days 37 00:01:40,375 --> 00:01:42,708 of captivity and torture. 38 00:01:42,792 --> 00:01:46,500 A young woman describes how she survived a modern-day case 39 00:01:46,583 --> 00:01:49,833 of virtual abduction and sexual abuse. 40 00:01:49,917 --> 00:01:51,917 And finally, we'll see what it means 41 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:57,125 to live a life beyond the trauma and beyond the headlines. 42 00:02:00,208 --> 00:02:02,375 When New Hampshire teenager Abby Hernandez 43 00:02:02,458 --> 00:02:07,125 was abducted in 2013, she grew close to her captor, 44 00:02:07,208 --> 00:02:08,542 gaining enough of his trust 45 00:02:08,625 --> 00:02:11,500 to find out his real name, Nate Kibby, 46 00:02:11,542 --> 00:02:15,833 and to even learn about his history and his personal life. 47 00:02:15,917 --> 00:02:18,167 This bond, while clearly toxic, 48 00:02:18,250 --> 00:02:22,042 would ironically save her life. 49 00:02:22,125 --> 00:02:26,500 - My name is Abigail Hernandez and in 2013 I was kidnapped 50 00:02:26,542 --> 00:02:28,958 and held captive for nine months. 51 00:02:29,042 --> 00:02:30,625 I was 15 years old. 52 00:02:30,708 --> 00:02:33,542 (tense music) 53 00:02:33,667 --> 00:02:35,833 I grew up in the Mount Washington Valley, 54 00:02:35,917 --> 00:02:37,000 New Hampshire. 55 00:02:37,083 --> 00:02:39,208 I had a pretty good childhood, 56 00:02:39,333 --> 00:02:42,458 but I didn't have like the most outstanding social life. 57 00:02:42,542 --> 00:02:44,250 I was kinda lonely in school. 58 00:02:45,875 --> 00:02:47,583 I was kidnapped on October 9th. 59 00:02:48,583 --> 00:02:50,542 I had a pretty normal day at school. 60 00:02:51,792 --> 00:02:53,542 I had these leather new boots 61 00:02:53,625 --> 00:02:56,292 that you needed to break in, preferably with socks, 62 00:02:56,375 --> 00:02:57,708 and I didn't have 'em. 63 00:02:57,792 --> 00:03:00,875 So I was walking home and my heels felt raw. 64 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,583 They stung really bad and I was like, 65 00:03:03,708 --> 00:03:05,667 gosh, I still have a little ways to go. 66 00:03:06,833 --> 00:03:08,167 And he pulled over. 67 00:03:08,250 --> 00:03:11,375 The door just opened right in front of me 68 00:03:11,500 --> 00:03:16,125 and he was holding it open and he says, "Need a ride?" 69 00:03:16,208 --> 00:03:17,333 I just thought, you know, 70 00:03:17,458 --> 00:03:19,000 he's your average Joe or whatever, 71 00:03:19,042 --> 00:03:20,833 and that's the wrong mentality to have. 72 00:03:22,042 --> 00:03:23,250 He said, "Where you headed?" 73 00:03:23,375 --> 00:03:25,500 And I said a sandwich shop near my home. 74 00:03:25,583 --> 00:03:27,667 I don't want grown men knowing where I live. 75 00:03:27,750 --> 00:03:30,167 I guess I was smart enough to know that. 76 00:03:31,542 --> 00:03:34,833 He looked very serious, no expression. 77 00:03:34,958 --> 00:03:37,292 He said, "Do you mind if I stop by up here real quick?" 78 00:03:37,375 --> 00:03:39,833 So I was like, this is kinda weird, but yeah, yeah, 79 00:03:39,875 --> 00:03:41,000 that's okay. 80 00:03:41,083 --> 00:03:43,042 And he parked so far away 81 00:03:43,125 --> 00:03:45,500 and the car was facing away from the store. 82 00:03:45,625 --> 00:03:49,958 I immediately got kinda, oh no, something's happening. 83 00:03:50,042 --> 00:03:52,083 Like he's planning something. 84 00:03:52,167 --> 00:03:53,417 I reached for the door 85 00:03:53,542 --> 00:03:56,167 and then I feel this heavy object on my leg 86 00:03:56,208 --> 00:03:57,667 and I realized it's a gun. 87 00:03:57,667 --> 00:04:00,500 And he said, "Now, I can blow your (bleep) brains out 88 00:04:00,583 --> 00:04:02,958 or I can slit your (bleep) throat right open. 89 00:04:03,042 --> 00:04:07,708 If you try to do anything to escape, I will kill you." 90 00:04:07,792 --> 00:04:09,792 And then he threw handcuffs on me. 91 00:04:11,333 --> 00:04:13,750 And then we just kept driving. 92 00:04:14,917 --> 00:04:17,250 Was thinking to myself, he's taken me far away, 93 00:04:17,333 --> 00:04:18,958 which means I'm not coming home, 94 00:04:19,042 --> 00:04:20,083 which means he's gonna kill me 95 00:04:20,167 --> 00:04:22,250 and bury me somewhere probably. 96 00:04:22,333 --> 00:04:24,250 (tense music continues) 97 00:04:24,333 --> 00:04:25,500 And then he brought me 98 00:04:25,583 --> 00:04:29,667 into what I now know is a shipping container 99 00:04:29,708 --> 00:04:33,833 and it smelled like gasoline and weed. 100 00:04:33,917 --> 00:04:35,333 And it was just really cold. 101 00:04:35,417 --> 00:04:38,042 There were tools everywhere. 102 00:04:38,125 --> 00:04:41,042 My first thought, to be honest, was he's gonna chop me up. 103 00:04:41,208 --> 00:04:42,583 I was really terrified. 104 00:04:42,667 --> 00:04:44,833 I was praying to God like, anything else is okay, 105 00:04:44,875 --> 00:04:47,375 just please don't let him like mutilate me. 106 00:04:51,458 --> 00:04:53,625 One of the very first things I asked him was, 107 00:04:53,708 --> 00:04:55,333 "How come you're doing this?" 108 00:04:55,333 --> 00:04:57,833 The main reason according to him was 109 00:04:57,917 --> 00:05:01,000 that his girlfriend broke his heart 110 00:05:01,083 --> 00:05:03,208 and he lost all faith in women 111 00:05:03,292 --> 00:05:04,917 and wanted to hurt one of them. 112 00:05:06,292 --> 00:05:08,000 During the first week, 113 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,708 he was talking really quietly and he was crying and he said, 114 00:05:10,792 --> 00:05:13,667 "You know, I'm not proud of this Abby." 115 00:05:13,750 --> 00:05:15,167 He said, "You know, I'm sorry." 116 00:05:15,292 --> 00:05:18,875 And he just explained to me that he was in a tough position 117 00:05:18,958 --> 00:05:20,042 where if he let me go, 118 00:05:20,125 --> 00:05:21,875 then that was the end for him, 119 00:05:21,958 --> 00:05:24,125 but he also couldn't keep me 120 00:05:24,208 --> 00:05:25,667 and he didn't wanna kill me. 121 00:05:28,667 --> 00:05:31,667 - Dear Abby, I believe you're out there somewhere, 122 00:05:31,750 --> 00:05:34,375 watching and listening to me right now. 123 00:05:34,375 --> 00:05:36,375 - He had brought me to the bathtub 124 00:05:36,458 --> 00:05:38,625 so I could not be blindfolded, 125 00:05:38,708 --> 00:05:41,875 and so he could hold his phone in front of me 126 00:05:41,958 --> 00:05:43,500 so I could see my mom. 127 00:05:43,583 --> 00:05:46,083 I think that was the first time I cried when I was there. 128 00:05:46,167 --> 00:05:48,583 It was just hard to see the state that she was in, 129 00:05:48,667 --> 00:05:50,625 you know, having lost her child. 130 00:05:50,708 --> 00:05:53,625 - It is my hope that you can reach out to me 131 00:05:53,708 --> 00:05:55,667 and I want you home with me. 132 00:05:55,750 --> 00:05:58,167 - He said, "I'm thinking of having you write a letter. 133 00:05:58,250 --> 00:06:00,333 Let your mom know that you're okay." 134 00:06:00,417 --> 00:06:02,000 He was saying out loud what I was supposed 135 00:06:02,042 --> 00:06:03,167 to be writing down 136 00:06:03,292 --> 00:06:06,167 and I wrote it down and I had fingernails 137 00:06:06,208 --> 00:06:07,417 and like how I have now, 138 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:08,667 and I carved into it, 139 00:06:08,708 --> 00:06:12,417 "White man, blue eyes, white car, north." 140 00:06:12,500 --> 00:06:14,792 Anything I knew about him, I had etched in there. 141 00:06:16,042 --> 00:06:18,583 Hours pass, and I'm sitting there in the closet. 142 00:06:19,708 --> 00:06:23,042 Finally he comes back and I hear the door slam 143 00:06:23,167 --> 00:06:25,000 and I'm like, oh no. 144 00:06:25,042 --> 00:06:26,292 And he said, 145 00:06:26,458 --> 00:06:28,208 "I hope you know I'm not playing (bleep) games." 146 00:06:28,292 --> 00:06:31,000 And he said, "We'll have pillow talk later." 147 00:06:31,042 --> 00:06:35,000 Pillow talk was me getting stunned by a stunned gun 148 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,458 for like 20 minutes. 149 00:06:36,542 --> 00:06:37,917 And then he left me alone. 150 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,500 He just told me that if I had given him away, 151 00:06:40,583 --> 00:06:42,458 it would be better to shoot him. 152 00:06:42,542 --> 00:06:44,208 So he had given me a gun 153 00:06:44,333 --> 00:06:46,083 and told me to shoot him and I didn't. 154 00:06:46,167 --> 00:06:49,000 I was just like, I'm not doing this crazy stuff. 155 00:06:49,083 --> 00:06:50,500 Please be normal. 156 00:06:50,583 --> 00:06:52,333 He definitely did care about me 157 00:06:52,417 --> 00:06:54,083 and I cared about him at the time. 158 00:06:54,208 --> 00:06:56,708 It was like a one-on-one cult. 159 00:07:00,583 --> 00:07:03,542 I was alone for long periods of time. 160 00:07:03,625 --> 00:07:05,667 I would just try to make it go by. 161 00:07:05,792 --> 00:07:07,667 And then when he was around, 162 00:07:07,750 --> 00:07:10,708 we would talk and I would get that human interaction 163 00:07:10,833 --> 00:07:12,000 that felt good. 164 00:07:12,167 --> 00:07:15,667 You're looking for any kind of emotion out of this person 165 00:07:15,750 --> 00:07:19,417 because they're doing things that are so inhumane 166 00:07:20,500 --> 00:07:21,833 that you're looking for humanity in them. 167 00:07:21,875 --> 00:07:24,000 And when you see it, it's like, thank God. 168 00:07:25,833 --> 00:07:27,833 He said how he felt like school was a prison 169 00:07:27,875 --> 00:07:30,500 and the teachers were there to, you know, boss him around. 170 00:07:30,625 --> 00:07:33,292 I kind of felt the same way about school too. 171 00:07:33,375 --> 00:07:38,500 So I really just tried to have open conversations with him 172 00:07:39,583 --> 00:07:41,292 and I didn't really try to manipulate him. 173 00:07:41,292 --> 00:07:42,708 I thought it would be great, 174 00:07:42,792 --> 00:07:47,333 like if he came out of this rehabilitated 175 00:07:47,375 --> 00:07:48,833 and that I helped with that. 176 00:07:51,083 --> 00:07:53,833 In the beginning he told me, "I'm gonna put you to work." 177 00:07:53,917 --> 00:07:54,917 And there was just 178 00:07:54,917 --> 00:07:56,958 like a big old bucket of weed stalks there. 179 00:07:58,083 --> 00:08:01,292 And he explained to me like how to do it. 180 00:08:01,375 --> 00:08:02,708 I was looking at the weed 181 00:08:02,792 --> 00:08:04,583 that he was trimming and he looked up at me 182 00:08:04,708 --> 00:08:06,042 and I couldn't see him, 183 00:08:06,208 --> 00:08:08,833 but I could tell that he was smiling and he was proud of me. 184 00:08:08,917 --> 00:08:11,042 You know, weed happened in the beginning. 185 00:08:11,167 --> 00:08:15,125 Time went on and then we were making counterfeit money. 186 00:08:16,625 --> 00:08:19,917 He had paid a prostitute with a $100 bill we had made 187 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,708 and she got caught. 188 00:08:21,792 --> 00:08:23,667 She told him, "I told him everything. 189 00:08:23,750 --> 00:08:27,042 I told him who you are and that you gave me fake money." 190 00:08:27,125 --> 00:08:29,375 He told me the cops are coming over, search my stuff, 191 00:08:29,458 --> 00:08:30,250 you can't be here. 192 00:08:31,708 --> 00:08:34,250 And we went for a little car ride. 193 00:08:37,208 --> 00:08:39,208 There's this road called North-South Road in Conway. 194 00:08:39,292 --> 00:08:42,833 It's kinda like a back road in the middle of nowhere. 195 00:08:42,917 --> 00:08:45,292 We just stopped and he said, "Get out." 196 00:08:45,375 --> 00:08:46,500 - Coming up, 197 00:08:46,583 --> 00:08:49,500 Abby's twisted bond with Nate Kibby 198 00:08:49,542 --> 00:08:51,917 persists beyond her release. 199 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,667 - I felt like I had killed somebody. 200 00:08:54,667 --> 00:08:58,167 I had one job to do and so I just felt so bad. 201 00:09:02,458 --> 00:09:03,500 According to the FBI, 202 00:09:03,875 --> 00:09:05,458 a small percentage of kidnapping victims experience 203 00:09:05,542 --> 00:09:08,042 what is known as Stockholm syndrome, 204 00:09:08,125 --> 00:09:09,917 developing a psychological 205 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,833 and an emotional bond with their captor. 206 00:09:13,875 --> 00:09:16,708 Nine months after Abby Hernandez was freed, 207 00:09:16,833 --> 00:09:19,833 she still felt the need to protect her abductor 208 00:09:19,917 --> 00:09:21,125 from the police. 209 00:09:21,208 --> 00:09:23,083 (tense music continues) 210 00:09:23,167 --> 00:09:25,375 - He told me that I needed to come up with a story 211 00:09:25,500 --> 00:09:26,958 if he were to let me go. 212 00:09:27,042 --> 00:09:28,333 And he said, 213 00:09:28,417 --> 00:09:31,250 "This story needs to be as far away from me as possible." 214 00:09:31,375 --> 00:09:32,667 He said, "So you know, I'm white. 215 00:09:32,708 --> 00:09:34,667 You say the man is Latino or Black. 216 00:09:34,708 --> 00:09:37,125 I'm tall. Say he's short." 217 00:09:37,250 --> 00:09:39,667 But like the cops aren't stupid, 218 00:09:40,875 --> 00:09:43,000 especially with a 15-year-old girl. 219 00:09:43,083 --> 00:09:44,542 You know, they knew something was up. 220 00:09:44,542 --> 00:09:46,042 They were like, this is a (bleep) story. 221 00:09:46,167 --> 00:09:49,125 - This has been an unusual case from the get go for us. 222 00:09:49,208 --> 00:09:51,583 - But then you know, time went on and my mom, 223 00:09:51,667 --> 00:09:53,833 I could see the stress on her 224 00:09:53,917 --> 00:09:56,375 that they weren't finding the guy. 225 00:09:56,458 --> 00:09:58,083 And I just told her everything. 226 00:09:59,500 --> 00:10:01,792 I felt like I had killed somebody 227 00:10:01,875 --> 00:10:03,458 because I really felt like 228 00:10:03,542 --> 00:10:07,667 he's gonna live a inhumane life now in jail. 229 00:10:07,792 --> 00:10:09,167 And I felt like that was on me. 230 00:10:09,208 --> 00:10:13,333 I had been let go and I had one job to do. 231 00:10:13,417 --> 00:10:14,958 And so I just felt so bad. 232 00:10:17,375 --> 00:10:19,500 He was arrested, arraigned. 233 00:10:19,583 --> 00:10:21,125 I went to the arraignment. 234 00:10:21,208 --> 00:10:23,125 Everybody told me not to, but I wanted to see him. 235 00:10:25,125 --> 00:10:27,292 You know, when I was there, I actually read the book, 236 00:10:27,375 --> 00:10:29,042 "The Scarlet Letter." 237 00:10:29,167 --> 00:10:30,333 When I came out of it, 238 00:10:30,375 --> 00:10:33,542 I kinda felt like I was wearing a scarlet letter. 239 00:10:33,625 --> 00:10:35,542 There were rumors that like, she lied, she lied, 240 00:10:35,625 --> 00:10:37,125 he hasn't been convicted yet. 241 00:10:38,250 --> 00:10:39,583 Sometimes you're just trying to live life 242 00:10:39,667 --> 00:10:41,333 and people will throw stuff at you, 243 00:10:41,375 --> 00:10:43,708 dirty looks, phrases or whatever. 244 00:10:44,750 --> 00:10:48,667 I hope that no other survivor of abuse 245 00:10:48,750 --> 00:10:53,125 has to hear random people give their opinion. 246 00:10:55,833 --> 00:10:57,500 A couple years later, 247 00:10:57,583 --> 00:10:59,250 he pled guilty. 248 00:10:59,333 --> 00:11:00,458 It took years, 249 00:11:00,542 --> 00:11:02,292 years outta my life, 250 00:11:02,375 --> 00:11:05,625 you know, unfortunately, where I was kind of in a daze. 251 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:10,500 I went into hair school when I was 17. 252 00:11:10,583 --> 00:11:12,417 I started working with people 253 00:11:12,500 --> 00:11:16,333 and then that's how I met my current boyfriend actually. 254 00:11:16,375 --> 00:11:19,958 And I realized men aren't supposed to be like him. 255 00:11:20,042 --> 00:11:24,917 That's not how people should relate to each other, 256 00:11:25,042 --> 00:11:29,667 through manipulation and making somebody feel bad and 257 00:11:30,208 --> 00:11:31,292 you know. 258 00:11:32,875 --> 00:11:34,375 By coming forward and telling my story, 259 00:11:34,500 --> 00:11:36,167 I wanted to set the record straight. 260 00:11:37,917 --> 00:11:40,167 I always carry it with me in a little way, 261 00:11:40,292 --> 00:11:42,917 but there are days where I don't even think about it. 262 00:11:43,958 --> 00:11:46,833 You know, life is pretty normal for me now. 263 00:11:46,875 --> 00:11:49,958 I have a son and he is probably the best thing 264 00:11:50,042 --> 00:11:51,333 that ever happened to me. 265 00:11:51,417 --> 00:11:54,500 I'm just thankful to be here and have made it 266 00:11:54,583 --> 00:11:56,667 to be old enough to have a kid. 267 00:11:56,750 --> 00:11:58,000 I don't know. 268 00:11:58,125 --> 00:11:59,458 And I guess I just have these memories 269 00:11:59,542 --> 00:12:01,708 that I still feel kinda young to have, 270 00:12:01,833 --> 00:12:05,208 but ultimately it's made me who I am 271 00:12:05,208 --> 00:12:06,333 and that's okay. 272 00:12:08,208 --> 00:12:09,083 (tense music) 273 00:12:09,167 --> 00:12:10,792 - Following Nate Kibby's conviction, 274 00:12:10,875 --> 00:12:13,917 Abby Hernandez gave an impact statement in court, 275 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,167 forgiving him for what he did 276 00:12:16,208 --> 00:12:19,708 and even thanking him for setting her free. 277 00:12:19,792 --> 00:12:21,958 Abby's trauma bond with her abductor 278 00:12:22,042 --> 00:12:23,792 may have saved her life, 279 00:12:23,875 --> 00:12:27,667 but a young school teacher named Mary Stauffer relied 280 00:12:27,750 --> 00:12:29,542 on a very different kind of bond 281 00:12:29,625 --> 00:12:32,417 to survive her captivity and abuse. 282 00:12:32,500 --> 00:12:33,583 (tense music continues) 283 00:12:33,667 --> 00:12:37,333 In May of 1980, a man kidnapped Mary 284 00:12:37,375 --> 00:12:40,167 and her young daughter, Beth, at gunpoint, 285 00:12:40,250 --> 00:12:45,625 and held them hostage for 53 terrifying days. 286 00:12:45,708 --> 00:12:47,917 During their shared imprisonment, 287 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,958 Mary and Beth relied on their unshakable religious devotion 288 00:12:53,042 --> 00:12:54,875 and love for each other. 289 00:12:54,958 --> 00:12:56,583 But would it be enough? 290 00:12:56,708 --> 00:12:58,042 (tense music continues) 291 00:12:58,125 --> 00:12:59,750 - [Mary] My name is Mary Stauffer 292 00:12:59,875 --> 00:13:03,167 and my abduction happened when I was 36 years old. 293 00:13:03,292 --> 00:13:05,083 - [Beth] My name is Beth Stauffer. 294 00:13:05,208 --> 00:13:08,958 I was abducted with my mother when I was eight years old. 295 00:13:09,042 --> 00:13:11,625 - It has been very important for me to share my story. 296 00:13:11,708 --> 00:13:14,292 It helps me to verbalize 297 00:13:14,375 --> 00:13:18,042 how God was with us through the bad and the good. 298 00:13:19,208 --> 00:13:20,792 (gentle music) 299 00:13:20,875 --> 00:13:23,833 In 1980, we were gonna go to the Philippines 300 00:13:23,875 --> 00:13:28,750 as missionaries to plant churches and to teach the Bible. 301 00:13:28,833 --> 00:13:30,208 The day that we were kidnapped, 302 00:13:30,292 --> 00:13:32,750 I had taken Beth to the beauty parlor 303 00:13:32,833 --> 00:13:34,083 because the next Wednesday, 304 00:13:34,167 --> 00:13:36,833 we were supposed to get on the plane. 305 00:13:36,917 --> 00:13:38,167 After Beth got her hair cut, 306 00:13:38,333 --> 00:13:39,833 we came out and walked to the car. 307 00:13:39,875 --> 00:13:42,042 And I saw a man walking toward us, 308 00:13:42,125 --> 00:13:43,792 but I didn't think anything about it 309 00:13:43,875 --> 00:13:45,375 because I thought maybe he just wants 310 00:13:45,458 --> 00:13:47,000 to ask directions someplace. 311 00:13:47,083 --> 00:13:49,292 So I unlocked the car, opened the door, 312 00:13:49,375 --> 00:13:52,000 and by that time, the man was by us in the car. 313 00:13:52,042 --> 00:13:55,042 And I saw that he had a gun pointed at Beth. 314 00:13:56,167 --> 00:14:00,583 That was a horribly terrifying moment for me 315 00:14:00,667 --> 00:14:04,042 because he was threatening not me, but my daughter. 316 00:14:04,125 --> 00:14:06,167 He forced me into the car first 317 00:14:06,208 --> 00:14:09,292 to slide over on the driver's side, and then Beth, 318 00:14:09,375 --> 00:14:11,042 and then he was in the passenger's side, 319 00:14:11,042 --> 00:14:13,417 always with his gun at Beth's side. 320 00:14:13,542 --> 00:14:18,500 And I didn't dare do anything that would risk her life. 321 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,167 (tense music) 322 00:14:21,250 --> 00:14:23,833 - The memories come back like snapshots. 323 00:14:24,958 --> 00:14:26,833 I remember sitting in the car with him 324 00:14:26,917 --> 00:14:28,833 in the passenger seat, mom driving the car, 325 00:14:28,917 --> 00:14:30,958 him having the gun at my side, 326 00:14:31,083 --> 00:14:32,750 being scared, him yelling, 327 00:14:32,833 --> 00:14:35,333 trying to tell her how to drive, where to go. 328 00:14:36,167 --> 00:14:38,000 I remember being put in the trunk 329 00:14:38,083 --> 00:14:39,833 and having our wrists taped. 330 00:14:39,917 --> 00:14:41,375 - When we were in the trunk of the car 331 00:14:41,458 --> 00:14:44,958 and the little boy who just happened to come on the scene 332 00:14:45,042 --> 00:14:46,917 had been grabbed and put in the trunk with us, 333 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,083 and later taken out. 334 00:14:49,167 --> 00:14:51,542 We didn't know where he was taken. 335 00:14:51,708 --> 00:14:53,083 (tense music continues) 336 00:14:53,167 --> 00:14:55,792 - Late at night when he switched us from our car 337 00:14:55,875 --> 00:14:58,000 into his moving van, 338 00:14:58,083 --> 00:15:01,875 being taken to this house and we were blindfolded. 339 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,708 We're brought into a closet and shut in a closet. 340 00:15:04,708 --> 00:15:07,417 There's a lot of confusion, a lot of disorientation. 341 00:15:11,917 --> 00:15:13,250 We've been hearing from Mary and Beth Stauffer 342 00:15:13,375 --> 00:15:17,583 about their terrifying abduction by a stranger in 1980. 343 00:15:17,667 --> 00:15:19,417 On the second day of captivity, 344 00:15:19,500 --> 00:15:22,667 Mary learned the man was Ming Sen Shiue, 345 00:15:22,708 --> 00:15:26,875 a former student of hers whose schoolboy crush morphed 346 00:15:26,958 --> 00:15:29,167 into an unhealthy obsession. 347 00:15:29,208 --> 00:15:32,750 Confined to a closet in constant fear 348 00:15:32,833 --> 00:15:34,333 of what might come next, 349 00:15:34,458 --> 00:15:37,458 Mary turned to her faith for strength. 350 00:15:37,542 --> 00:15:40,125 (tense music continues) 351 00:15:40,208 --> 00:15:43,208 - Beth was in the closet during the times that I was raped, 352 00:15:43,375 --> 00:15:45,625 so she didn't see the rapes happening, 353 00:15:45,708 --> 00:15:48,833 but she knew something terrible was happening to me. 354 00:15:48,958 --> 00:15:50,625 When I'd come back to the closet, she'd say, 355 00:15:50,708 --> 00:15:52,042 "Mom, are you okay?" 356 00:15:53,542 --> 00:15:55,667 And we'd talk about how the Bible said 357 00:15:55,708 --> 00:15:57,292 we're to treat our enemy, you know, 358 00:15:57,375 --> 00:15:59,750 love your enemy and all those things. 359 00:15:59,875 --> 00:16:01,667 And I thought, love? 360 00:16:01,708 --> 00:16:04,833 What I'm feeling is more like hate. 361 00:16:04,917 --> 00:16:07,542 - Mom did a great job during the kidnapping 362 00:16:07,625 --> 00:16:11,542 of sheltering me from the horrors she was facing. 363 00:16:11,625 --> 00:16:14,042 I could tell she was upset when she would come back 364 00:16:14,125 --> 00:16:16,917 and see me in the closet, but I didn't know why. 365 00:16:19,125 --> 00:16:21,000 - Sometimes I'd be so discouraged, 366 00:16:21,125 --> 00:16:24,458 day after day, no rescue, nothing. 367 00:16:24,542 --> 00:16:28,167 And life seemed to be worse and worse and worse. 368 00:16:28,208 --> 00:16:30,625 There were times when I questioned my faith, 369 00:16:31,875 --> 00:16:34,250 but Beth was sensitive to that. 370 00:16:34,333 --> 00:16:35,917 - I grew up as a pastor's kid 371 00:16:36,042 --> 00:16:38,042 and I learned about stories from the Bible 372 00:16:38,125 --> 00:16:40,917 about God rescuing people. 373 00:16:41,042 --> 00:16:42,292 - One day she said, 374 00:16:42,375 --> 00:16:44,958 "Mom, do you think God is gonna send his angel 375 00:16:45,042 --> 00:16:47,125 to open the door for us like he did 376 00:16:47,208 --> 00:16:49,375 for Peter and the other guy?" 377 00:16:49,458 --> 00:16:51,083 And in my deep heart of hearts, 378 00:16:51,167 --> 00:16:53,417 I didn't think it was gonna happen that way at all, 379 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:56,875 but I don't want to destroy the faith of a child. 380 00:16:56,958 --> 00:16:59,042 And so I said, "Well, he certainly could do that, 381 00:16:59,125 --> 00:17:01,000 but he might choose a different way." 382 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:01,958 Which he did. 383 00:17:02,042 --> 00:17:04,042 (tense music) 384 00:17:04,167 --> 00:17:06,958 The day that God made a way for us to escape, 385 00:17:06,958 --> 00:17:09,375 we were no longer stuck in the closet. 386 00:17:09,458 --> 00:17:13,750 We were able to sit in the bedroom, which was truly better. 387 00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:15,333 And that particular day, 388 00:17:15,417 --> 00:17:17,958 he had chained us to the closet door. 389 00:17:18,042 --> 00:17:20,958 He had steel cable with loops on each end, 390 00:17:21,042 --> 00:17:23,875 and he had put that around Beth's waist 391 00:17:23,958 --> 00:17:26,333 and fastened it with a padlock. 392 00:17:26,417 --> 00:17:29,250 And then he had a bicycle chain encased in plastic 393 00:17:29,333 --> 00:17:32,208 around my waist and I was padlocked to the cable. 394 00:17:32,333 --> 00:17:35,750 And then that cable was fastened around a hinge 395 00:17:35,833 --> 00:17:37,042 on the closet door, 396 00:17:37,125 --> 00:17:39,083 the closet where we had been locked inside 397 00:17:39,208 --> 00:17:41,167 for all these weeks. 398 00:17:41,250 --> 00:17:42,708 And then I noticed that on that door 399 00:17:42,792 --> 00:17:44,042 there were only two hinges, 400 00:17:44,042 --> 00:17:46,042 one at the top and one at the bottom. 401 00:17:46,167 --> 00:17:47,875 No middle hinge. 402 00:17:47,875 --> 00:17:51,917 So I went over to the door and grabbed the edge of the door 403 00:17:52,042 --> 00:17:53,167 and grabbed the hinge pin, 404 00:17:53,250 --> 00:17:55,333 prepared to pull for all I was worth. 405 00:17:55,375 --> 00:17:57,417 And the hinge pin just lifted out 406 00:17:57,500 --> 00:18:00,417 and all of a sudden the door was open at the top. 407 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:02,833 And our cable could come through. 408 00:18:02,917 --> 00:18:04,458 After our cable came free, 409 00:18:04,542 --> 00:18:06,250 I put the door back together again. 410 00:18:06,333 --> 00:18:07,958 So we got up, I took her hand, 411 00:18:08,042 --> 00:18:10,833 we went to the kitchen where we knew there was a telephone 412 00:18:10,958 --> 00:18:13,000 and we called the police. 413 00:18:13,042 --> 00:18:15,375 (uplifting music) 414 00:18:15,458 --> 00:18:19,208 - The day we escaped, stepping outside that door 415 00:18:19,292 --> 00:18:21,958 was the first time we really did anything 416 00:18:22,042 --> 00:18:24,708 in 52 days of our own volition. 417 00:18:24,792 --> 00:18:26,000 The air smelled sweet. 418 00:18:26,042 --> 00:18:28,000 Like I remember the feeling of the sun. 419 00:18:28,125 --> 00:18:31,125 There's nothing like just feeling the freedom. 420 00:18:31,208 --> 00:18:33,458 - When we were taken to the sheriff's office 421 00:18:33,542 --> 00:18:37,083 and I first saw my husband, Irv, and our son Steve, 422 00:18:37,167 --> 00:18:38,583 and the first thing I noticed was 423 00:18:38,708 --> 00:18:42,000 that his pants were getting a little short 424 00:18:42,125 --> 00:18:45,333 because he had grown during that 7 1/2 weeks 425 00:18:45,375 --> 00:18:47,458 that we were in captivity. 426 00:18:47,542 --> 00:18:50,500 It was just so marvelous to hug each other. 427 00:18:53,375 --> 00:18:58,667 I knew at some point I needed to let Beth know 428 00:18:58,792 --> 00:19:00,375 what was happening all the times 429 00:19:00,458 --> 00:19:02,375 when she was locked inside the closet 430 00:19:02,458 --> 00:19:04,375 and I was outside the closet. 431 00:19:04,458 --> 00:19:07,750 I thought, there's going to be lots of news. 432 00:19:07,833 --> 00:19:10,833 She needs to hear this from me. 433 00:19:10,875 --> 00:19:14,583 And so I did tell her before the trial started, 434 00:19:15,875 --> 00:19:20,000 I just said, "Well, you know, Ming was raping me." 435 00:19:20,083 --> 00:19:23,583 - I actually don't remember the exact moment she told me 436 00:19:23,583 --> 00:19:26,708 that she had been raped during the kidnapping. 437 00:19:26,792 --> 00:19:30,167 As a child, I didn't understand really what that meant, 438 00:19:30,208 --> 00:19:31,958 but as I got older and I understood 439 00:19:32,042 --> 00:19:33,833 more of what it meant, 440 00:19:33,917 --> 00:19:35,625 I was actually really angry. 441 00:19:36,542 --> 00:19:38,667 (tense music) 442 00:19:38,750 --> 00:19:42,375 - In 1980 and 1981, there were two trials. 443 00:19:42,500 --> 00:19:44,792 One was for the kidnapping of Beth and me 444 00:19:44,875 --> 00:19:47,458 and the other was for the murder of Jason Wilkman, 445 00:19:47,542 --> 00:19:50,875 the little boy who just happened to come on the scene 446 00:19:50,875 --> 00:19:53,375 that day when we were in the trunk of the car. 447 00:19:54,792 --> 00:19:56,958 Jason had been grabbed and put in the trunk with us 448 00:19:57,042 --> 00:19:59,292 and later taken out. 449 00:19:59,375 --> 00:20:01,833 Nobody knew it, but he had been killed. 450 00:20:01,833 --> 00:20:05,375 That, for me, was the worst part 451 00:20:05,458 --> 00:20:07,708 about the whole kidnapping experience. 452 00:20:09,083 --> 00:20:12,833 It was in those hearings that I was attacked 453 00:20:12,917 --> 00:20:13,833 in the courtroom. 454 00:20:15,500 --> 00:20:20,042 Our abductor jumped up from his place at the defense table 455 00:20:20,125 --> 00:20:23,708 and ran and grabbed me by the neck from behind 456 00:20:23,792 --> 00:20:26,417 and held a knife to my face and said, 457 00:20:26,500 --> 00:20:28,000 "Get back or I'll kill her." 458 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:33,958 And in the process of that scuffle, I was cut on my face. 459 00:20:33,958 --> 00:20:36,833 (tense music continues) 460 00:20:36,917 --> 00:20:38,667 Our abductor was found guilty. 461 00:20:38,750 --> 00:20:42,167 The judge gave him a life sentence 462 00:20:42,250 --> 00:20:46,292 with the possibility of parole after 30 years. 463 00:20:46,375 --> 00:20:49,333 Having spent that 7 1/2 weeks with him, he said, 464 00:20:49,375 --> 00:20:52,083 "Even if I get put in prison for a very long time, 465 00:20:52,167 --> 00:20:54,375 when I get out, I'll go after you. 466 00:20:54,375 --> 00:20:56,625 And if you're dead, I'll go after your kids." 467 00:20:58,542 --> 00:21:00,833 In 2010, there were some hearings 468 00:21:00,875 --> 00:21:04,667 to determine whether he would be eligible for parole. 469 00:21:04,708 --> 00:21:08,875 When parole was denied, we did feel relief. 470 00:21:08,958 --> 00:21:12,917 We were very satisfied that he would remain incarcerated. 471 00:21:14,875 --> 00:21:19,000 My feelings for Ming today are pretty much the same 472 00:21:19,083 --> 00:21:20,875 that they have always been. 473 00:21:20,875 --> 00:21:23,333 We pray for him. 474 00:21:23,375 --> 00:21:28,250 We hated what he did, but we didn't hate him. 475 00:21:29,292 --> 00:21:30,958 - I feel sorry for Ming Sen Shiue. 476 00:21:31,042 --> 00:21:32,417 His choice that day to walk up 477 00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:34,750 and put a gun to my side and take us 478 00:21:34,875 --> 00:21:40,125 was the first step in a life of living in prison. 479 00:21:40,208 --> 00:21:42,292 52 days later, we escaped. 480 00:21:42,375 --> 00:21:43,500 It's a part of our story, 481 00:21:43,583 --> 00:21:47,250 but I got to go on and live a great life. 482 00:21:47,333 --> 00:21:49,583 Got married, had kids. 483 00:21:49,667 --> 00:21:52,333 - We were able to finish our missionary career 484 00:21:52,417 --> 00:21:54,917 and retire back here to the States. 485 00:21:54,917 --> 00:21:59,042 We were able to see both of our children marry. 486 00:21:59,125 --> 00:22:01,083 - He didn't get to ruin our lives. 487 00:22:01,167 --> 00:22:03,000 He ruined his life. 488 00:22:03,083 --> 00:22:04,625 - No matter what has happened, 489 00:22:04,708 --> 00:22:07,667 no matter what anybody has done to you, 490 00:22:07,667 --> 00:22:09,875 that isn't the thing that defines you. 491 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,667 There is healing, there is love, 492 00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:18,417 and you can even leave the resentment behind 493 00:22:18,500 --> 00:22:19,958 and just go on with your life. 494 00:22:22,208 --> 00:22:22,917 (tense music) 495 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:27,458 You might think that 496 00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:28,458 abduction only applies to the 497 00:22:28,625 --> 00:22:30,083 physical act of kidnapping, 498 00:22:30,167 --> 00:22:31,083 but with the internet, 499 00:22:31,167 --> 00:22:32,083 social media, 500 00:22:32,167 --> 00:22:33,917 and modern technology, 501 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,333 abusers are now able to threaten 502 00:22:36,375 --> 00:22:38,708 and control others virtually 503 00:22:38,792 --> 00:22:41,083 through their phones or computers. 504 00:22:41,167 --> 00:22:46,250 One example of virtual abduction is known as sextortion. 505 00:22:46,625 --> 00:22:48,375 That's when someone threatens 506 00:22:48,458 --> 00:22:50,667 to digitally distribute sensitive information 507 00:22:50,708 --> 00:22:54,333 or images in order to extort sexual favors, 508 00:22:54,375 --> 00:22:56,458 sexual images, or money. 509 00:22:57,542 --> 00:22:59,333 Ashley Reynolds refers to the man 510 00:22:59,417 --> 00:23:02,542 who exploited her over the internet and social media 511 00:23:02,667 --> 00:23:06,375 as an abductor because he, in Ashley's words, 512 00:23:06,458 --> 00:23:10,333 abducted her from being able to live her life fully. 513 00:23:11,250 --> 00:23:13,458 When she was just 14, 514 00:23:13,542 --> 00:23:16,917 Ashley's MySpace account became her nightmare 515 00:23:16,917 --> 00:23:20,042 when she fell victim to sextortion 516 00:23:20,042 --> 00:23:21,875 at the hands of a stranger. 517 00:23:24,708 --> 00:23:26,500 - Going into my sophomore year of high school, 518 00:23:26,583 --> 00:23:28,042 I was 14 years old. 519 00:23:29,250 --> 00:23:32,000 MySpace was top priority at the time. 520 00:23:32,083 --> 00:23:33,583 My profile was on private, 521 00:23:33,583 --> 00:23:36,667 but I did get a random message from someone. 522 00:23:36,708 --> 00:23:38,375 I had no idea who they were. 523 00:23:38,458 --> 00:23:41,708 Their name on MySpace was Captain Obvious. 524 00:23:41,833 --> 00:23:44,417 The subject line in the message was in all caps, 525 00:23:44,417 --> 00:23:46,208 and it said, "I have naked pictures of you. 526 00:23:46,292 --> 00:23:47,250 Open this." 527 00:23:47,375 --> 00:23:48,542 I didn't even bother opening it. 528 00:23:48,625 --> 00:23:50,875 I deleted it and moved on with my day. 529 00:23:52,125 --> 00:23:56,000 Memorial Day weekend comes and everyone's sitting out back. 530 00:23:56,042 --> 00:23:58,667 That's when I get a message on my phone and it says, 531 00:23:58,750 --> 00:24:00,292 "I have naked pictures of you. 532 00:24:00,375 --> 00:24:02,250 Why are you ignoring my message?" 533 00:24:02,375 --> 00:24:04,500 (phone beeping) 534 00:24:04,583 --> 00:24:07,042 The messages start coming in more and more. 535 00:24:07,167 --> 00:24:09,625 And he goes, "If you don't send me seven naked pictures 536 00:24:09,708 --> 00:24:11,167 of yourself right now, 537 00:24:11,250 --> 00:24:13,667 I'm going to send what I have to all of your friends." 538 00:24:14,750 --> 00:24:16,333 At first, it seemed so farfetched 539 00:24:16,375 --> 00:24:17,917 like I was trying to find different answers 540 00:24:18,042 --> 00:24:20,667 as to how he could have naked pictures of me. 541 00:24:20,708 --> 00:24:22,542 Maybe I left my webcam on. 542 00:24:22,625 --> 00:24:24,583 Maybe he hacked into my computer. 543 00:24:24,667 --> 00:24:26,833 When you're being told something over and over, 544 00:24:26,917 --> 00:24:28,375 I've got these naked pictures of you, 545 00:24:28,542 --> 00:24:30,833 and you're getting threatened over and over again, 546 00:24:30,875 --> 00:24:32,667 you start to believe it yourself. 547 00:24:34,167 --> 00:24:37,000 Everyone was sitting at the patio table talking, 548 00:24:37,083 --> 00:24:39,458 and that's when I did have to excuse myself. 549 00:24:39,542 --> 00:24:42,208 After receiving several messages in a row 550 00:24:42,333 --> 00:24:44,500 and him not taking no for an answer. 551 00:24:44,542 --> 00:24:46,292 (eerie music) 552 00:24:46,375 --> 00:24:47,667 I went to the restroom 553 00:24:47,708 --> 00:24:50,708 and that's when I took those seven naked pictures. 554 00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:54,167 I thought that once I sent those pictures, 555 00:24:54,250 --> 00:24:57,000 it would be over with and I could go on with my life. 556 00:24:57,083 --> 00:24:58,667 No one would have to know. 557 00:24:58,750 --> 00:25:02,542 But once I sent those, that's what he used as leverage 558 00:25:02,625 --> 00:25:03,917 from then on out. 559 00:25:05,458 --> 00:25:07,667 It started off with the seven pictures, 560 00:25:07,792 --> 00:25:10,292 but it was turning into over 60 plus pictures 561 00:25:10,292 --> 00:25:12,000 every single night. 562 00:25:12,042 --> 00:25:15,750 And if you can imagine what kind of poses I had to do 563 00:25:15,833 --> 00:25:18,708 and things, you know, I had to do to myself, 564 00:25:18,792 --> 00:25:22,167 I had no idea even existed at the time. 565 00:25:22,250 --> 00:25:23,333 I was basically a puppet. 566 00:25:23,417 --> 00:25:26,583 I had to do whatever, according to him. 567 00:25:26,667 --> 00:25:29,125 (eerie music) 568 00:25:29,208 --> 00:25:32,875 I was dealing with this morning, noon, and night. 569 00:25:32,958 --> 00:25:35,250 I would block him on MySpace. 570 00:25:35,333 --> 00:25:38,500 He would create a new account, message me there. 571 00:25:39,708 --> 00:25:41,833 Every time my phone would go off 572 00:25:41,875 --> 00:25:44,125 or I'd see I have a new message on MySpace, 573 00:25:44,208 --> 00:25:46,625 it would be a pain in the gut. 574 00:25:46,708 --> 00:25:48,625 My whole body would just start shaking. 575 00:25:50,250 --> 00:25:53,042 I call this person my abductor because, to me, 576 00:25:53,125 --> 00:25:54,708 it feels like a form of kidnapping, 577 00:25:54,792 --> 00:25:56,875 like a virtual kidnapping. 578 00:25:56,958 --> 00:25:59,792 This went on for roughly about six months. 579 00:26:01,833 --> 00:26:05,750 I was at a youth group club after school. 580 00:26:05,833 --> 00:26:07,458 And it was in the middle of it, 581 00:26:07,542 --> 00:26:09,917 and I remember I get a text from my mom saying, 582 00:26:10,042 --> 00:26:12,333 "Your dad and I are coming to pick you up." 583 00:26:12,417 --> 00:26:14,042 I knew something was off. 584 00:26:15,833 --> 00:26:19,250 We got home and my mom points at the screen and she goes, 585 00:26:19,333 --> 00:26:20,625 "What is this?" 586 00:26:20,625 --> 00:26:23,667 What she's pointing at is one of the threads 587 00:26:23,708 --> 00:26:26,667 from my messages, my chat with this guy, 588 00:26:26,792 --> 00:26:28,417 I just dropped to the floor 589 00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:30,292 and I started screaming and crying 590 00:26:30,375 --> 00:26:31,750 because I knew that they knew 591 00:26:31,833 --> 00:26:34,458 and I didn't know what was gonna happen from there. 592 00:26:34,542 --> 00:26:38,000 I remember my dad wanting to call the cops 593 00:26:38,083 --> 00:26:40,458 and do something any dad would wanna do. 594 00:26:40,542 --> 00:26:41,833 My mom was trying to calm him down, 595 00:26:41,875 --> 00:26:43,417 trying to calm herself down. 596 00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:44,792 And she told him to hold off. 597 00:26:44,875 --> 00:26:46,292 Let's not call the police. 598 00:26:46,375 --> 00:26:47,583 (tense music) 599 00:26:47,667 --> 00:26:49,833 And that's when she pulled up online 600 00:26:49,917 --> 00:26:52,208 National Center Missing & Exploited Children. 601 00:26:54,458 --> 00:26:56,000 I canceled my MySpace, like 602 00:26:56,083 --> 00:26:58,833 National Center Missing & Exploited Children told me to. 603 00:26:58,958 --> 00:27:03,583 And I gave it a few months and I started to grow weary. 604 00:27:03,583 --> 00:27:04,667 I just wanted to be normal. 605 00:27:04,750 --> 00:27:06,292 I wanted to fit in with my friends. 606 00:27:06,375 --> 00:27:08,167 I was sad seeing everyone, 607 00:27:08,250 --> 00:27:11,750 being able to have fun on MySpace, talk on MySpace, 608 00:27:11,833 --> 00:27:16,333 and that's when I decided to make another profile. 609 00:27:16,417 --> 00:27:18,083 And I shouldn't have, but I did. 610 00:27:22,542 --> 00:27:23,583 After deleting her social media accounts 611 00:27:23,583 --> 00:27:25,625 to escape an online predator, 612 00:27:25,708 --> 00:27:29,125 14-year-old Ashley Reynolds eventually returned 613 00:27:29,125 --> 00:27:30,208 to the internet 614 00:27:30,292 --> 00:27:33,125 to find that her nightmare was far from over. 615 00:27:35,125 --> 00:27:40,333 - Once he found the second MySpace, he was very angry. 616 00:27:40,875 --> 00:27:44,083 The threats came in more about sending off my pictures. 617 00:27:44,167 --> 00:27:45,625 I still ignored it. 618 00:27:46,708 --> 00:27:48,208 And a little bit of time after that, 619 00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:49,833 my mom was in the living room. 620 00:27:49,917 --> 00:27:51,583 She remembers hearing me screaming. 621 00:27:51,667 --> 00:27:52,667 "He did it. 622 00:27:52,708 --> 00:27:53,708 He did it. No!" 623 00:27:53,792 --> 00:27:54,708 And I was crying. 624 00:27:54,792 --> 00:27:56,250 I was bawling my eyes out. 625 00:27:57,583 --> 00:28:00,917 He did send a couple pictures out to a few of my friends. 626 00:28:04,958 --> 00:28:07,333 Not one person looked down upon me. 627 00:28:07,375 --> 00:28:08,208 No one did. 628 00:28:08,292 --> 00:28:09,583 They were all there for me. 629 00:28:09,708 --> 00:28:11,167 They all supported me the entire time, 630 00:28:13,167 --> 00:28:16,417 but I still had to walk on eggshells, 631 00:28:16,542 --> 00:28:19,625 being afraid of everything around me. 632 00:28:19,708 --> 00:28:22,042 I didn't know if he knew where I lived. 633 00:28:22,208 --> 00:28:24,708 I didn't know if walking to the bus stop, 634 00:28:24,792 --> 00:28:26,167 if he was watching me. 635 00:28:26,250 --> 00:28:28,375 I didn't know if he was going to show up 636 00:28:28,458 --> 00:28:29,500 at my school one day 637 00:28:29,583 --> 00:28:30,875 or a friend's house one day 638 00:28:30,958 --> 00:28:33,542 or bang on my window in the middle of the night. 639 00:28:33,625 --> 00:28:35,083 (tense music continues) 640 00:28:35,167 --> 00:28:36,792 After he had sent out those pictures, 641 00:28:36,875 --> 00:28:40,375 it wasn't too long after where the FBI 642 00:28:40,458 --> 00:28:44,042 was able to trace him to his home in Jacksonville, Florida. 643 00:28:44,167 --> 00:28:47,083 And that is where they ultimately caught him. 644 00:28:47,208 --> 00:28:50,292 Finally, the weight, everything was off my shoulders 645 00:28:50,375 --> 00:28:51,792 and I felt so relieved. 646 00:28:52,958 --> 00:28:55,167 I got a subpoena to fly out 647 00:28:55,208 --> 00:28:59,167 to Jacksonville, Florida to testify. 648 00:28:59,208 --> 00:29:02,208 That's when I was able to meet other victims 649 00:29:02,375 --> 00:29:03,958 for the first time. 650 00:29:04,042 --> 00:29:07,583 He was actually doing this to over 350 other girls, 651 00:29:07,708 --> 00:29:09,833 the youngest one being eight years old. 652 00:29:11,542 --> 00:29:13,000 You have someone who thought they were 653 00:29:13,125 --> 00:29:15,083 in an actual relationship with him. 654 00:29:15,208 --> 00:29:17,250 You have another girl who had him saying 655 00:29:17,375 --> 00:29:20,500 that he was going to come to her house and find her. 656 00:29:20,542 --> 00:29:23,000 And you have another girl who's looking around places 657 00:29:23,083 --> 00:29:25,833 in a room trying to figure out where to hang a noose 658 00:29:25,917 --> 00:29:28,000 because she couldn't endure the pain anymore. 659 00:29:30,083 --> 00:29:32,042 During the trial when he walked in, 660 00:29:32,042 --> 00:29:33,833 he was wearing the orange jumpsuit, 661 00:29:33,958 --> 00:29:36,250 shackles on his hands and feet, 662 00:29:36,333 --> 00:29:38,750 just looking down, long, greasy hair. 663 00:29:38,833 --> 00:29:40,708 And one of the victims next to me, 664 00:29:40,833 --> 00:29:42,083 we just grabbed hands 665 00:29:42,167 --> 00:29:44,333 and we just started crying our eyes out. 666 00:29:44,375 --> 00:29:46,667 And finally after we gave our victim speech, 667 00:29:46,750 --> 00:29:48,958 that was when the judge sentenced him. 668 00:29:49,375 --> 00:29:52,792 - [Reporter] Lucas Chancellor is serving a 105-year sentence 669 00:29:52,875 --> 00:29:55,000 after he blackmailed young girls 670 00:29:55,125 --> 00:29:58,375 in an effort to get sexual videos and pictures of them. 671 00:29:58,375 --> 00:30:01,417 It's been challenging to identify earlier victims 672 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:04,958 because Chancellor didn't save as much information on them. 673 00:30:05,042 --> 00:30:06,958 - There's 200 plus girls out there 674 00:30:07,042 --> 00:30:10,125 that have no idea that he's been caught. 675 00:30:10,208 --> 00:30:12,292 I'm just hoping that by sharing my story, 676 00:30:12,375 --> 00:30:15,375 somehow it sounds familiar and it resonates with someone 677 00:30:15,542 --> 00:30:17,167 and that maybe they can look into this case 678 00:30:17,250 --> 00:30:19,667 to determine if maybe that was the person 679 00:30:19,792 --> 00:30:21,042 that was doing this to them. 680 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,208 People think that, you know, this can't happen to me. 681 00:30:26,333 --> 00:30:27,958 I thought this couldn't happen to me. 682 00:30:28,042 --> 00:30:31,250 I was literally your basic, normal, average girl, 683 00:30:31,375 --> 00:30:32,750 living a normal life. 684 00:30:32,750 --> 00:30:35,958 You're not safe unless you're actually taking 685 00:30:36,042 --> 00:30:39,292 the necessary precautions to ensure you're safe. 686 00:30:40,917 --> 00:30:45,000 I spent so much time being afraid, feeling alone. 687 00:30:45,083 --> 00:30:46,417 If I could go back in time, 688 00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:50,750 I would've told myself to speak up, tell someone. 689 00:30:50,875 --> 00:30:54,000 I have so many people that have reached out to me 690 00:30:54,042 --> 00:30:56,833 since I've started sharing my story. 691 00:30:56,958 --> 00:30:59,333 The support that I get is so amazing. 692 00:31:01,042 --> 00:31:03,500 Ultimately, that is what saved me from everything. 693 00:31:08,208 --> 00:31:09,583 - [Ana] According to the FBI, 694 00:31:09,667 --> 00:31:13,167 the key to keeping your private information safe is 695 00:31:13,292 --> 00:31:15,833 to be careful about what you share online. 696 00:31:15,917 --> 00:31:20,167 It's also advised to ignore messages from strangers 697 00:31:20,250 --> 00:31:21,833 and to seek help immediately 698 00:31:21,875 --> 00:31:25,167 if you believe you are being victimized. 699 00:31:26,208 --> 00:31:28,958 There is no greater nightmare than a young child 700 00:31:29,042 --> 00:31:32,333 who is abducted, abused, and imprisoned. 701 00:31:32,375 --> 00:31:35,292 If the child is fortunate enough to be rescued, 702 00:31:35,375 --> 00:31:40,000 the real work of processing the trauma only just begins. 703 00:31:40,042 --> 00:31:42,167 Many women have chosen to channel 704 00:31:42,250 --> 00:31:44,875 that trauma in into helping others. 705 00:31:44,875 --> 00:31:47,417 Two of those women are Lori Poland, 706 00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:48,708 who, at four years old, 707 00:31:48,833 --> 00:31:51,875 was abducted, abused, and left for dead 708 00:31:51,958 --> 00:31:54,583 in an outhouse toilet. 709 00:31:54,667 --> 00:31:56,750 And Katie Beers who, at 10, 710 00:31:56,833 --> 00:32:01,167 was abducted, abused and kept in an underground dungeon 711 00:32:01,250 --> 00:32:04,875 by a family friend for 17 days. 712 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,417 (tense music continues) 713 00:32:08,417 --> 00:32:11,292 - On August 22nd, 1983, 714 00:32:11,375 --> 00:32:15,125 a man just drove up to me in the middle of day and said, 715 00:32:15,208 --> 00:32:17,042 "Hey, do you like candy?" 716 00:32:18,083 --> 00:32:21,042 And he asked me to get in the car with him. 717 00:32:22,750 --> 00:32:24,833 I was then taken by my abductor 718 00:32:24,875 --> 00:32:27,167 to the mountains here in Colorado. 719 00:32:28,250 --> 00:32:31,333 And he found an old abandoned outhouse 720 00:32:31,458 --> 00:32:34,042 and proceeded to severely abuse me. 721 00:32:35,667 --> 00:32:37,000 And after abusing me, 722 00:32:37,042 --> 00:32:39,958 he placed me in the pit of an outhouse toilet 723 00:32:40,042 --> 00:32:43,167 and left me 15 feet below ground for dead. 724 00:32:46,333 --> 00:32:49,500 And I was there for 3 1/2 days. 725 00:32:49,583 --> 00:32:53,792 When bird watchers happened to be driving by, 726 00:32:53,875 --> 00:32:55,500 they heard this faint cry. 727 00:32:55,583 --> 00:32:56,792 They started looking around 728 00:32:56,875 --> 00:32:59,125 and eventually they looked down. 729 00:32:59,208 --> 00:33:01,333 And they asked what I was doing there 730 00:33:01,417 --> 00:33:03,208 and I told him that I lived there. 731 00:33:06,958 --> 00:33:09,167 I was reunited with my family 732 00:33:09,333 --> 00:33:11,500 later that day at the hospital. 733 00:33:12,875 --> 00:33:15,750 My abductor was identified. 734 00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:17,458 His name was Robert Paul Thiret. 735 00:33:18,875 --> 00:33:22,833 He was charged with abduction, rape, 736 00:33:22,875 --> 00:33:25,083 attempted murder, and kidnapping, 737 00:33:25,208 --> 00:33:27,625 and he was sentenced to 10 years in prison. 738 00:33:31,375 --> 00:33:34,833 My story is similar to millions of people 739 00:33:34,958 --> 00:33:37,125 who've been impacted by child abuse. 740 00:33:37,958 --> 00:33:40,083 There's just not enough survivors 741 00:33:40,167 --> 00:33:42,292 that are able to come forward 742 00:33:42,375 --> 00:33:46,625 because so many people feel shame and fear 743 00:33:46,708 --> 00:33:49,000 and all of these horrific things. 744 00:33:50,958 --> 00:33:54,875 - My name is Katie Beers and in December of 1992, 745 00:33:54,958 --> 00:33:59,000 I was abducted and held captive for 17 days. 746 00:33:59,083 --> 00:34:00,375 I was 10 years old. 747 00:34:02,917 --> 00:34:06,167 I grew up on Long Island, New York. 748 00:34:06,208 --> 00:34:10,333 I was jostled between my godmother, Linda, 749 00:34:10,375 --> 00:34:13,417 and my biological mother and my grandmother. 750 00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:18,625 John Esposito is a man that was in my life 751 00:34:18,708 --> 00:34:22,208 from as early as I can remember. 752 00:34:22,292 --> 00:34:25,708 I loved him like an older brother or as a father figure. 753 00:34:25,833 --> 00:34:28,708 He was just somebody that was always there for me. 754 00:34:29,875 --> 00:34:33,167 John's house was the place to be. 755 00:34:33,208 --> 00:34:36,833 He had soda and candy and treats. 756 00:34:36,875 --> 00:34:40,417 He had every single game imaginable. 757 00:34:42,042 --> 00:34:46,250 All of the games, he had in his bedroom. 758 00:34:46,333 --> 00:34:48,458 December 28th, 1992, 759 00:34:48,542 --> 00:34:51,500 I'm sitting on his unmade bed playing this game. 760 00:34:51,583 --> 00:34:54,958 I'm there by myself and he sits down behind me. 761 00:34:55,042 --> 00:34:59,250 He pulls me up onto his lap, puts his hand over my mouth, 762 00:34:59,333 --> 00:35:02,167 and he proceeds to whisper in my ear, 763 00:35:02,208 --> 00:35:04,208 "I'm not going to hurt you." 764 00:35:04,292 --> 00:35:06,542 He briefly sexually assaulted me, 765 00:35:06,667 --> 00:35:10,750 and then he carried me down the stairs into his office. 766 00:35:11,833 --> 00:35:13,833 The next thing I know, 767 00:35:13,958 --> 00:35:16,333 John picks me up and he literally 768 00:35:16,458 --> 00:35:19,292 just drops me down this hole. 769 00:35:20,333 --> 00:35:23,792 The dungeon is what I called it. 770 00:35:23,875 --> 00:35:25,250 Within this dungeon, 771 00:35:25,375 --> 00:35:27,083 he then took me and put me 772 00:35:27,208 --> 00:35:31,458 in this little coffin-sized box. 773 00:35:33,042 --> 00:35:34,625 And then there was silence. 774 00:35:40,750 --> 00:35:41,708 While nine-year-old 775 00:35:41,708 --> 00:35:42,708 Katie Beers sat trapped 776 00:35:42,708 --> 00:35:44,208 in the underground bunker 777 00:35:44,292 --> 00:35:45,542 of a family friend, 778 00:35:45,667 --> 00:35:47,208 one precious connection 779 00:35:47,333 --> 00:35:51,375 to the outside world helped her keep hope alive. 780 00:35:53,208 --> 00:35:56,458 - [Katie] In my coffin-sized box, I had a television. 781 00:35:56,542 --> 00:35:58,875 - [Reporter] Hoping that Katie will come home soon. 782 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,708 - Every day, my case was on the news. 783 00:36:01,708 --> 00:36:05,000 And I think that that is a lot of the reason 784 00:36:05,125 --> 00:36:07,000 why I hadn't given up hope, 785 00:36:07,083 --> 00:36:08,833 because I knew that there were people 786 00:36:08,917 --> 00:36:11,417 on the outside looking for me. 787 00:36:11,417 --> 00:36:12,542 - We're still optimistic 788 00:36:12,625 --> 00:36:14,375 that we are going to learn exactly 789 00:36:14,375 --> 00:36:15,667 what occurred that night. 790 00:36:16,792 --> 00:36:19,792 - January 13th, 1993, 791 00:36:19,875 --> 00:36:24,833 I heard the main door to let John Esposito into the dungeon 792 00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:30,583 and somebody else opens up the door. 793 00:36:31,083 --> 00:36:32,750 They had said to me, "You are safe. 794 00:36:32,833 --> 00:36:34,542 You can come out now." 795 00:36:35,542 --> 00:36:39,667 The next thing I know is John Esposito, 796 00:36:39,708 --> 00:36:40,708 the man who just held me 797 00:36:40,792 --> 00:36:43,542 in an underground dungeon for 17 days, 798 00:36:43,625 --> 00:36:46,708 the man that had sexually assaulted and raped me, 799 00:36:46,792 --> 00:36:48,542 was sitting on the couch catty corner to me. 800 00:36:48,625 --> 00:36:50,417 And he's talking to the police. 801 00:36:51,833 --> 00:36:57,292 Esposito was sentenced to prison for 15 years to life. 802 00:36:57,375 --> 00:36:58,750 After 20 plus years, 803 00:36:58,875 --> 00:37:01,250 he was found deceased in his jail cell. 804 00:37:01,250 --> 00:37:04,542 (tense music continues) 805 00:37:04,625 --> 00:37:08,833 - These abduction stories can happen in our own backyards, 806 00:37:08,917 --> 00:37:12,958 but it is possible for people to go through horrific things, 807 00:37:13,042 --> 00:37:17,583 but even better that they can get through horrific things. 808 00:37:18,833 --> 00:37:20,167 - With the proper support, 809 00:37:20,250 --> 00:37:21,875 you can come out on the other side. 810 00:37:23,167 --> 00:37:24,792 You don't snap your fingers and it happens. 811 00:37:24,875 --> 00:37:27,500 It takes a lot of love, support, and encouragement 812 00:37:27,542 --> 00:37:29,208 from the people around you, 813 00:37:29,292 --> 00:37:30,625 but you can work through it. 814 00:37:33,292 --> 00:37:35,833 - Transcending is when you can take your trauma 815 00:37:35,875 --> 00:37:37,708 and your horrific experience 816 00:37:37,833 --> 00:37:40,750 and turn that into the greater good for others. 817 00:37:42,208 --> 00:37:45,333 - I decided that I wanted to write a book 818 00:37:45,417 --> 00:37:47,500 about what I had been through. 819 00:37:49,042 --> 00:37:52,250 It was right after the book came out 820 00:37:52,333 --> 00:37:55,333 that I listened to Elizabeth Smart speak. 821 00:37:55,417 --> 00:37:56,833 She got up in front 822 00:37:56,917 --> 00:37:59,208 of the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children 823 00:37:59,333 --> 00:38:01,333 and she just started talking. 824 00:38:01,417 --> 00:38:04,125 She just started sharing her story. 825 00:38:04,208 --> 00:38:06,667 And then after that I had decided 826 00:38:06,750 --> 00:38:08,917 that that's how I was gonna do my speeches 827 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,500 from that point on. 828 00:38:10,583 --> 00:38:12,750 I just threw caution to the wind. 829 00:38:12,833 --> 00:38:16,375 I got up in front of everybody and I just shared my story. 830 00:38:16,458 --> 00:38:18,750 I 100% spoke from the heart. 831 00:38:22,208 --> 00:38:24,292 Everything that happened to me in my childhood, 832 00:38:24,375 --> 00:38:26,500 those are all of the things that shaped me 833 00:38:26,583 --> 00:38:28,667 into the woman that I am today. 834 00:38:30,042 --> 00:38:32,250 - I feel like I was gifted with that experience 835 00:38:32,250 --> 00:38:34,917 because I've taken something horrific 836 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,667 and I found a way 837 00:38:36,750 --> 00:38:39,750 to help thousands and thousands of people 838 00:38:39,833 --> 00:38:43,625 by letting them know it's okay to talk about this stuff. 839 00:38:43,708 --> 00:38:46,875 Even if it's one person who says, 840 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,333 "Wow, she can go through that and get better?" 841 00:38:50,375 --> 00:38:51,958 That's worth it to me. 842 00:38:53,792 --> 00:38:57,667 - In 2017, Lori Poland, established EndCAN 843 00:38:57,792 --> 00:39:02,583 or the National Foundation to End Child Abuse and Neglect. 844 00:39:02,708 --> 00:39:06,500 The aim of this organization is to treat child abuse 845 00:39:06,583 --> 00:39:09,167 as a mental health and public health problem, 846 00:39:09,250 --> 00:39:12,667 similar to suicide, diabetes, heart disease, 847 00:39:12,792 --> 00:39:13,833 and breast cancer. 848 00:39:15,583 --> 00:39:17,000 In all these stories, 849 00:39:17,125 --> 00:39:21,583 there's a common thread of perseverance to go on with life, 850 00:39:21,667 --> 00:39:23,208 even as the attention 851 00:39:23,292 --> 00:39:26,792 and the support of the public spotlight fades. 852 00:39:26,875 --> 00:39:31,042 - As I've talked to women's groups to say, 853 00:39:31,125 --> 00:39:33,083 no matter what has happened, 854 00:39:33,208 --> 00:39:35,833 no matter what anybody has done to you, 855 00:39:35,917 --> 00:39:38,167 there is healing. 856 00:39:38,208 --> 00:39:39,708 There is love. 857 00:39:40,583 --> 00:39:42,750 - Every time someone hears my story, 858 00:39:42,833 --> 00:39:45,500 the support that I get is so amazing. 859 00:39:45,583 --> 00:39:46,708 I'm hoping that's helpful 860 00:39:46,792 --> 00:39:48,417 for anyone who's going through this 861 00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:50,667 to know that there's gonna be so many more people 862 00:39:50,708 --> 00:39:52,875 who support you rather than drag you down. 863 00:39:54,250 --> 00:39:56,000 - It's important for people to know that the bad things 864 00:39:56,042 --> 00:39:59,208 that happen to you in life don't have to define you. 865 00:39:59,292 --> 00:40:00,750 They can be a part of your story. 866 00:40:00,833 --> 00:40:03,667 They can help you grow and become a better person, 867 00:40:03,708 --> 00:40:05,875 but they don't have to be your defining moment. 868 00:40:05,958 --> 00:40:08,750 (uplifting music)