1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,800 [stereo buzzing] 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,760 [tape player whirring] 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:20,200 - [Rudy] Bob. 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,480 The only way we can possibly prevent you from being indicted 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,400 is if you come forward, tell the truth, 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:28,680 we can try to work it out. 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:30,960 - [Bob] You want me to go and say 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,920 I did all these kinds of things, I'll never do it. 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:34,920 - [Rudy] Why? 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,120 - I'm not gonna implicate any of my friends. 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,600 I'll never hurt Mandato, 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,960 I'll never hurt Wolff, I'll never hurt Cody. 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,400 I'm not gonna do it, those are my partners. 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:45,400 I'm not gonna do it. 17 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,520 And so two guys go and both fuck yourselves. 18 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,320 [suspenseful music] 19 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,400 - [Interviewer] You were a hero to some 20 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,960 others were furious at you 21 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:22,960 that you broke the code of silence among police officers. 22 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,480 - Bob Leuci turned around on the essential problem, 23 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,400 the corruption that existed in the narcotics enforcement. 24 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,200 - It was so difficult to tell who was the good guy 25 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,720 and who was the bad guy. 26 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,440 What is right in this scene? What is wrong? 27 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,520 - [Man] Bob Leuci committed probably more crimes 28 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,400 than almost any other police officer 29 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:51,600 in the city of New York. 30 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,560 - He really thought he was going to be 31 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,160 this great American hero. 32 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,720 [traffic passing] [horn honking] 33 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,400 [phone beeping] 34 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,360 - [Bob] Hi Magnus, how are you? 35 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,960 - [Magnus] I'm good. How are you? 36 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,160 - [Bob] I feel better today. 37 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,600 Not great, but better. 38 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,200 - [Magnus] Could we maybe in the next month or so, 39 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,400 find a time? 40 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:30,480 - [Bob] I don't know. 41 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:32,480 I really don't. 42 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,880 I would think so, but I don't know. 43 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,080 I'm afraid, you know what I'm saying? 44 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,920 [suspenseful music] 45 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:49,480 - Yeah, he's one of the most complex people I know. 46 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,320 Cops today may not know Bob personally 47 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,000 or know anything about his unit, the SIU. 48 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,280 They say terrible things about it. 49 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,360 Because that's what you do to demonstrate your loyalty 50 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,280 to the brotherhood. 51 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,840 If there's a cop who rats on another cop, 52 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,760 his home will have a wreath put on the door 53 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,280 and the wreath is made up of a string of dead rats. 54 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,640 It's a sign, we're watching you buddy. 55 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:31,880 Watch your step. 56 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,600 [sirens wailing] 57 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,240 - Our next guest is a man who at one time 58 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,400 was a top New York City detective. 59 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,240 His testimony broke one of the biggest tales of corruption 60 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,600 ever uncovered in New York City Police Department. 61 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,200 - He gave up the code. 62 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,120 He made the NYPD look like garbage 63 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,280 and was a criminal just like the drug dealers 64 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,760 that he covered. 65 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,760 - How did you wind up being a crooked cop? 66 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,040 - When I was in training, his name was among the names 67 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,880 I was told not to work with. 68 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,400 His shield was for sale 69 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,600 and he was a disgrace to what we stood for. 70 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,320 And the thought was, if I worked with him, I could get hurt. 71 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,160 [soft guitar music] 72 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,080 - [Bob] A lot of people have gotten angry with me. 73 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,120 You know, why are you doing this? 74 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,280 Why are you opening this all up again? 75 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:32,360 And they throw darts at my picture. 76 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:35,840 We'll set it up and I'll do it, okay? 77 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:38,000 - Yeah, let's do that. - All right. 78 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,120 - Cool, okay, see you soon. - Bye, bye. 79 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,840 ♪ Pool Hall, quarter a ball ♪ 80 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:45,920 ♪ Pick your stick and hang it on the wall ♪ 81 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,800 ♪ Aim slow, shoot it low ♪ 82 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,520 ♪ Fall for it all and you'll never know ♪ 83 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,040 ♪ There a black eight, won't roll straight ♪ 84 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,000 ♪ Scratch every match and you're easy bait ♪ 85 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,880 ♪ For a cue shark, shootin' his mark ♪ 86 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,960 ♪ To a pay day give away in the dark ♪ 87 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,440 [dog barking] 88 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,080 - Don't you, that's too close! 89 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,360 Get--fucking back up. 90 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,200 Back up. 91 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,000 Jesus, these fucking Norwegian pricks. 92 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,200 Underneath my coat. - All right. 93 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:21,640 - [Bob] Does that make any sense? 94 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,040 - [Interviewer] How do you feel about this? 95 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,120 - Well, I mean, really it's hard in the beginning 96 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,800 but we'll get going and get it right. 97 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:43,280 - Having a documentary about him at this stage in his life 98 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,120 would really put things in perspective for him, 99 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,600 for his family, for his friends, 100 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,200 for anyone who saw it who knew him 101 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,520 from the beginning of this journey that he took. 102 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,840 [soft music] 103 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:05,800 - I should have the students sign up pretty soon. 104 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:06,880 I mean, I'm not sure, 105 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,680 I fill my classes usually. 106 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,760 I train police all over the country. 107 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,800 I talk to them about working undercover. 108 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,240 I try to explain to them what you have to do 109 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,240 to make sure you understand who you are. 110 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:32,720 Once you become a reflection of the people that you police, 111 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,040 you begin looking like them, dressing like them, 112 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,840 wearing your hair like them, talking like them. 113 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,840 You've been then taken by them. 114 00:06:40,840 --> 00:06:42,440 That's a world you visit. 115 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,080 It's not a world you become part of. 116 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,880 And I became part of it. 117 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,600 ♪ He is on your side ♪ 118 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,640 - [Narrator] Yes, the man in blue is on your side. 119 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,720 Cooperate with the New York City police officers 120 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,240 in your neighborhood. 121 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,040 - My whole life from the time I was 18, 122 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,480 I always wanted to be a policeman. 123 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,880 [soft music] 124 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,440 There's a certain kind of bonding that takes place 125 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,640 that you don't find in any other profession. 126 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,480 And I couldn't imagine living any other kind of life. 127 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,400 [sirens] [police radio] 128 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,080 I was a good kid in high school. 129 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,040 I went to college and played football out in Kansas. 130 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,120 I never smoked a joint. 131 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:40,920 I never broke any law. 132 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,960 I took the test when I was 19. 133 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,040 I came back and I became a cop. 134 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,720 My father was a socialist, really a communist. 135 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,840 He didn't have a great love for the police. 136 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,600 And he hated the idea that I would become a cop. 137 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,520 And I probably did it more 138 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,680 because he hated the idea so much. 139 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,320 [upbeat music] 140 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,080 - [Reporter] New York City's Police Department, 141 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,720 by far the nation's largest with 31,000 men. 142 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:33,960 - Most of the policemen in this city 143 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,760 I think they have a very rough job. 144 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,360 I think it's a dangerous job. 145 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,160 - [Woman] The police is doing a good job in their duty 146 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,840 and if it wasn't for them, 147 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,480 a lot of crimes could have been committed. 148 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,320 - I was very strong pro-police. 149 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,360 My sense was that if I wear a uniform 150 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,080 and I tell you to do something, you do it. 151 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,760 I was a street guy very much. 152 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:07,920 [upbeat music continues] 153 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,040 I felt very much a part of the city. 154 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,080 The city was my city in a lot of ways. 155 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,720 [siren wailing] 156 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,520 I was young, full of energy. 157 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,600 In a short time, they put me into the narcotics division. 158 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,280 [people chattering] 159 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,440 - Bob Leuci was assigned to my office in Brooklyn 160 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,680 at the time, this was in the early 60s. 161 00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:48,200 He looked like a choir boy and 162 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,960 very innocent looking and didn't look like a policeman. 163 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,800 [suspenseful music] 164 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,320 - When you heard the name Baby Face, 165 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,960 you knew it was Bob Leuci. 166 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,400 That was his name, Baby Face, 167 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,800 'cause he was so young looking. 168 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,520 - Good looking guy. 169 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,200 Very charming, very personable. 170 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,840 Could wrap you around his finger in a minute. 171 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,440 - We were colleagues, 172 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,560 you know, saw each other just about daily. 173 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,120 When they'd make arrests, 174 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,400 he was very good with the prisoners. 175 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,880 [man yelling] 176 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,840 - [Bob] Calm down, calm down, calm down. 177 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,360 Take it easy, take it easy. 178 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,920 - And because he was an easy going guy, 179 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,640 he was able to charm the prisoners 180 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,720 and get information from them. 181 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:47,960 - [Prisoner] What a small precinct. 182 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,720 This the lousiest precinct in the Bronx. 183 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,480 - It was mainly his personality that, you know, 184 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,240 that got him moving along. 185 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,400 - I was smaller than the average cop 186 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,360 so I used to get dressed up as a woman. 187 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,160 - Do you get a lot of kidding from the boys 188 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:10,840 when you have to dress up this way? 189 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,840 - You do feel self-conscious, you know, 190 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:19,920 in a way, feel that it isn't your normal dress. 191 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,120 You know, whenever you wear something 192 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,400 that's not your normal dress you think everybody's, 193 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:24,840 when you go out in the street you feel like, 194 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,120 know that I'm a man, you know, self-conscious. 195 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:34,520 - He had the guile and the persona to sell a character. 196 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:35,760 He was an actor. 197 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,520 [sirens wailing] 198 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,920 [police radio] 199 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:51,800 - The first thing I would do 200 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,480 as soon as I went out into the street, I would buy drugs. 201 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:54,680 It was so easy for me. 202 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:57,680 There were drugs everywhere 203 00:11:57,680 --> 00:11:59,800 and people always wanted to sell me drugs. 204 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,120 And I'd make arrests. 205 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:07,800 [sirens wailing] 206 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,200 - We must wage what I have called total war 207 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,840 against public enemy number one in the United States, 208 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,400 the problem of dangerous drugs. 209 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,240 - [Reporter] Official estimates claim 210 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,480 there are now 300,000 addicts 211 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,640 of heroin alone and a growing proportion 212 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,440 of them are teenagers. 213 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,520 - Everybody in the whole block use heroin. 214 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,760 Old lady, 85, use heroin. 215 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,280 Young people nine to 12 use heroin. 216 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,080 - Nine years old? - Nine years old. 217 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,520 - I just tried it once, you know? I wanted to see... 218 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,880 I wanted more of the drugs, I want to get high at times. 219 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,320 - We've got to be harsh with those who are dealing in it 220 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,600 on the street level. 221 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,760 And that's what these youngsters are doing. 222 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,040 [pounding] 223 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,640 [officers yelling] 224 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,920 - Treating addicts as if they are criminals 225 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,520 and chasing them and fighting them and hitting 'em, 226 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,120 I did it for it years. 227 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,200 - [Officer] Easy, easy, easy does it, easy does it. 228 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,560 - Then I had plenty of guys who worked with me in the street 229 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:32,880 were great informants and then they would beg me for drugs. 230 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,080 And then I got to a point where I was giving drugs 231 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,520 to my informants. 232 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,320 I would do it every day almost. 233 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,680 - It was a method of getting information from the addicts 234 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:49,840 and it was hard to 235 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:52,480 curtail it, 236 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,080 but I made him aware of the dangers involved. 237 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,560 I imagined he understood. 238 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:04,600 [crowd chattering] 239 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,760 - [Reporter] Wednesday night, 240 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,440 two patrolmen were critically wounded 241 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,440 when their patrol car was riddled with 45 caliber bullets 242 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,240 apparently from a submachine gun fired from another auto. 243 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,880 - I regard this as the most dastardly possible act. 244 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:25,200 - At the same time, 245 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,720 there were these various liberation groups going around 246 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,640 killing policemen and shooting them in the back, 247 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,520 and it was a horrible, bad time. 248 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:35,720 - [Reporter] One officer, a negro, 249 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,560 was shot in the back of the head. 250 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,840 The other, a white man, had eight 45 caliber bullets 251 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,200 in his back. 252 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,000 - These people are the worst kind of vermin 253 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,560 that God ever put on this earth. 254 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,640 [people yelling] 255 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,120 [gun firing] 256 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,800 - We had 275 gangs in the Bronx where I was working 257 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,320 when I first started and they all hated cops. 258 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,800 [indistinct voices] 259 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,320 They were killing cops 260 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,200 like they would get a cup of coffee. 261 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,760 [intense somber music] 262 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,400 - They say that we were very brutal, you know, in those days. 263 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,560 But fact of the matter is there was brutality all around us. 264 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,720 Y'know, how would you expect us not to be? 265 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,400 [crowd yelling] 266 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,640 [people chanting] 267 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,720 You find that the only people you can trust 268 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:36,920 are other policeman. 269 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,160 You turn inward instead of turning outward. 270 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,080 You turn inward to protect yourself 271 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,520 you know, and it becomes this blue code of silence. 272 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,720 [indistinct voices] 273 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,200 - In order to fight and defeat this enemy, 274 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,160 it is necessary to wage a new all-out offensive. 275 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,000 I've asked the Congress to provide the legislative authority 276 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,920 and the funds to fuel this kind of offensive. 277 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,280 - The teams will be shifted around 278 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,920 to where the action is and where work can be performed. 279 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,520 [upbeat music] 280 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,800 - I wanted to be in this special unit. 281 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,160 [banging] 282 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,120 - [Reporter] The newly formed SIU, 283 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,120 Special Investigations Unit. 284 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,880 - It was a small unit within the narcotics division. 285 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,560 Some of the best detectives in the city. 286 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:41,680 They were the detectives that made 287 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,000 the French Connection case. 288 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,880 - [Reporter] 398 pounds of narcotics 289 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,040 worth at least $70 million. 290 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,720 - This was a combination of about two months 291 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,680 of investigation into the activities 292 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,120 of this particular group of people. 293 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,640 - They made up their own cases. 294 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,600 They got their own targets. 295 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,280 They did everything on their own. 296 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,320 [high pitched music] 297 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,120 - [Reporter] This is part of a 12 and a half million dollar 298 00:17:16,120 --> 00:17:19,000 illegal consignment, enough to feed the habits 299 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,160 of all the city's drug addicts for several weeks. 300 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,120 [drumming music] 301 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,080 - [Man] Three out of five major European 302 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,400 and South American heroin rings have been busted 303 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,400 in the past a couple of years. 304 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,080 - But everyone in that unit was over six feet tall. 305 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,080 They were all ex paratroopers and ex Marines. 306 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,440 It was really a crazy unit. 307 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:47,760 And I was too small. 308 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:49,800 But I kept insisting 309 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,520 and I was going for interviews and writing, calling. 310 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,080 And finally, they gave me a chance. 311 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,160 I was the first one in the unit under six feet tall. 312 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,080 - Somebody once said they were the princes of the city, 313 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,880 they could arrest somebody or not as they choose. 314 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,600 They could do anything they wanted 315 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,600 the way medieval princes could. 316 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,840 They were untouchable. 317 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,800 And they were for a time. 318 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,040 [people chattering] 319 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,280 - What was special about the SIU was that 320 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,640 they didn't have any rules. 321 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,240 They were doing great things. 322 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,200 They were clearing drugs off the street. 323 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,280 They were stopping people from dying. 324 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,320 And so the rules didn't apply to them 325 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:56,440 and they knew that. 326 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,040 [indistinct voices] 327 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,600 As long as they were bringing in the drug kingpins, 328 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:10,960 nobody asked any questions. 329 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,280 They were the princes, they were the elite. 330 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,360 [suspenseful music] 331 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,520 - The amount of money involved 332 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,600 in the drug business is astronomical. 333 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,000 I mean, it's beyond anything you could imagine. 334 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:34,840 I would go into an apartment 335 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,480 where there were thousands of dollars laying around 336 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,440 all over the place. 337 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,600 These are people who could barely read or write 338 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,040 and they had more money than I could ever dream of having. 339 00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:49,760 - And SIU came in contact 340 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,120 with the high level drug dealers 341 00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:53,960 who had a lot of money to corrupt 342 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,440 the law enforcement system. 343 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,400 We sort of knew about it 344 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,800 but there was a culture of keep your mouth shut. 345 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:02,800 [piano music] 346 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,920 - Police corruption has always been there. 347 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,720 It got worse when we started enforcing the drug laws 348 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,360 very vigorously, the war on drugs created 349 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:20,600 or contributed to the corruption. 350 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,000 - I first went into the unit and I was there about a week. 351 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,080 I couldn't find a partner, no one wanted to work with me. 352 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,560 I never had trouble getting partners 353 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,200 but this particular group of guys wouldn't work on me. 354 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,000 I couldn't figure it out until finally somebody said, 355 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,200 "Look, people are afraid of you." 356 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,080 You know... 357 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,560 I said, "Afraid of what?" 358 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,320 Well, if there's money around, 359 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,120 people are gonna take some. 360 00:20:57,120 --> 00:20:59,120 They were afraid if you were gonna be there, 361 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,160 and it was because I never took any money. 362 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,720 [suspenseful music] 363 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,360 - You're only making 250 a week. 364 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,320 It's tough. 365 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,720 And when some dirt bag out there turns around and says- 366 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,680 - "I can take care of your problem." 367 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,560 - "How about I give it 10 grand this week 368 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,800 and 10 grand every week from now on 369 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,960 and you just help me out a little." 370 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,440 It's very easy to be corrupted. 371 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,040 [upbeat music] 372 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,960 - There was a retirement party going on 373 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,400 from one of the major chiefs of detectives. 374 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,200 And every detective in New York City 375 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,400 was going to his retirement party, everyone. 376 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,520 [music continues] [laughing, cheering] 377 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,680 Except me and my team. 378 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,120 And they said, "Well, you guys brand new here. 379 00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:56,600 What we want you to do is to drive 380 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,680 to this location in the Bronx. 381 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,760 And watch these two Cuban guys from Miami 382 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,760 who were gonna be in this motel." 383 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,440 Now they were supposed to be major drug dealers, 384 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,280 big time drug dealers from Florida. 385 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,080 I'm following the one guy, 386 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,080 he's going places all over the city. 387 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,400 He's going to places mostly in Harlem 388 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,040 and a lot of places in the Bronx. 389 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,600 [ominous music] 390 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,480 But he's not bringing anything, 391 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,760 he's picking things up all the time, 392 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,560 always picking up a bag, an attache case. 393 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,120 They go back to the motel 394 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,760 and they began emptying their hotel room. 395 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,200 So we call this guy out, 396 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,520 this Cuban guy and my Lieutenant spoke to him. 397 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,760 He says he'll get the keys from them 398 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,720 and go open the trunks of the cars. 399 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,680 It was the most money I've ever seen in my life. 400 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,280 [music intensifies] 401 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,360 Bundles of money wrapped in red rubber bands 402 00:22:58,360 --> 00:22:59,240 all over the cars. 403 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,360 Cars start pulling up from this party. 404 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,560 A lieutenant and four detectives is five, 405 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,120 another sergeant and four detectives is 10, us four. 406 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,400 14 cops in the parking lot of this motel. 407 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,040 He's like, "I don't know, what do you want to do? 408 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,040 What should we do?" 409 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,160 There was no crime there per se 410 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,440 but they had all this money. 411 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,680 Everybody's standing around and he looks at me, 412 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,920 because we were brand new, me and my partner. 413 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,600 "What are we going do with it? 414 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,520 Take it? Return it? Turn it over to the police? 415 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:46,560 What should we do?" 416 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,960 Lieutenant then says, "Look, as far as I'm concerned 417 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,120 we take half the money, give them half the money. 418 00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:57,840 If nobody objects, let them get out of here 419 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,760 and that'll be it." 420 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,160 And I look at him, I'm looking around 421 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,920 and I wanted to raise my hand. 422 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:04,840 I should've said something. 423 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,840 I should've done something, I could have. 424 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,440 And I think it may have ended right there 425 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,240 but I didn't have the courage. 426 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,080 [dramatic music] 427 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,000 - He could have been a good cop. 428 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,280 Had he operated in a different time or a different place, 429 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,640 he would have been a very good police officer, 430 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,920 but he came into a culture of corruption. 431 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,640 He became part of it. 432 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,760 - He might as well be dirty and make a profit 433 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,440 and do anything he could 434 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,920 because everybody around him was doing it. 435 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,600 And he adopted right away, became dirty. 436 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,360 - When you get to the level of SIU 437 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,080 and you're wearing the suits 438 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,080 and you're wearing the hats 439 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,760 and you're becoming engulfed in this new culture, 440 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,640 are you losing sight of who you really are? 441 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,320 - And I want to stop now, okay? 442 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,920 Okay? 443 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,440 And then we'll go on from there. 444 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,480 But right now I'm tired. 445 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:41,080 I'll be right outside. - Cool. 446 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,080 - Is that what you want to do, outside right? 447 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,800 - Yeah. - Okay. 448 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,960 [heavy breathing] 449 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,880 - It was really important to Bob 450 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,840 that the people that he liked adored him. 451 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:02,360 He wanted it to be all of his friends' best friend. 452 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,880 [soft music] 453 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,320 He was the oldest son in an Italian family. 454 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,920 And his mother thought he was the golden boy of New York. 455 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,800 She just thought he was the greatest thing in the world. 456 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,240 Almost every mother thinks that about their children 457 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,720 but I think she took it to a level 458 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,840 where he could never do anything wrong. 459 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,640 She had said to him once, 460 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,400 "If you ever kill anyone, 461 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,520 I know it's going to be for a good reason." 462 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,880 - And I began doing things that I would never 463 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,640 have dreamt of doing before I became a cop. 464 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,640 [upbeat piano music] 465 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,520 - The SIU evolved into a unit who were really 466 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,880 more gangsters than the police officers. 467 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,360 They took advantage of the opportunities that they had. 468 00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:13,400 [slow jazzy music] 469 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,280 - They went to the best restaurants. 470 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,440 They dressed with Armani suits. 471 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,120 They had the best cars. 472 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,640 Why? 473 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,160 Because they were all stealing. 474 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,800 ♪ Give it up, to give it up ♪ 475 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,960 ♪ You know what's on my mind ♪ 476 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,720 ♪ Give it up, to give it up, girl ♪ 477 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,400 ♪ You've been wastin' too much time ♪ 478 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,840 - They took two bundles of stuff that I had, $5 each, 479 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,440 and $150 I had and they let me go. 480 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,400 - They came and took all my drugs and just let me go. 481 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,000 - Who's they? - The police. 482 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,720 - It was just breaking the law. 483 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,120 Just violating the law in a very serious way. 484 00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:03,280 I mean, I committed, really, a lot of felony. 485 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,480 ♪ Now give it to me ♪ 486 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,640 - Let some people go and arrest others. 487 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,280 ♪ Give it to me ♪ 488 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,160 - I certainly used illegal wire taps 489 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,560 and bugged people's homes. 490 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,080 I bugged their phones. 491 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,080 - [Reporter] Using electronic surveillance, 492 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,720 SIU cops would find out when drug pushers 493 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,480 were about to make a big deal. 494 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,280 After a raid, the cops kept the most of the seized cash 495 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,280 and drugs for themselves. 496 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,680 [soft music] 497 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,760 - Once I went along with this program, 498 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,960 everybody's hugging me. 499 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,960 We all got together where the money was shared 500 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,000 then given to each. 501 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,600 Some people got a lot more than others. 502 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,920 It was a sense of all of a sudden, a belonging, 503 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,880 that we were all part of the same Robin Hood group. 504 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,040 [man laughing] 505 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,560 This whole business of a shared kind of doing something 506 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,120 you shouldn't be doing, everyone doing it together. 507 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,960 [background chatter] 508 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,760 95% of the people in that unit were corrupt, 509 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,840 including all the bosses. 510 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,280 And after awhile I just lost myself. 511 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,880 I was not a policeman anymore. 512 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,800 - Approximately 57 pounds of contraband heroin 513 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,080 seized by the police department in 1962 514 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,560 has been stolen. 515 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,640 [suspenseful music] 516 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,640 - [Narrator] The original seizure in 1962 517 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,840 known as the French Connection case, 518 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,440 one of America's biggest narcotic seizures. 519 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,440 - All the drugs was stolen from the property clerk 520 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,880 and returned to the street. 521 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,760 Nothing like this ever been done before. 522 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,760 That created an incredible investigation 523 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,440 that got into a unit that I worked at. 524 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,040 - The creation of Mr. Jerry's office 525 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,360 provides additional resources to deal 526 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,120 with this problem of corruption. 527 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,680 - No police office and no prosecutor, 528 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,320 no judge, no one involved in criminal justice 529 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,560 who becomes a defendant is going to be given 530 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:35,840 a special privilege. 531 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,960 - The case was bought over to me. 532 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,200 We had a lot of people on it. 533 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,960 Everybody was trying to find out how it happened, 534 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,760 who did it and why. 535 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,080 - There were two detectives in the SIU 536 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,800 that apparently were involved in that, 537 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,160 but there were 70 people in the unit. 538 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,960 - Well, we're not just talking about the French Connection- 539 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,120 - A lot of other drugs too, I agree. 540 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,040 Listen, all the rationalizations I've been able to make 541 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,440 over the years for the things that I did myself 542 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,760 and the other things that the SIU did in general 543 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,240 are kind of wiped away by that particular incident. 544 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,560 It was his corrupt world. 545 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,960 The whole atmosphere was corrupt. 546 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,280 - They were doing the same thing 547 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,600 that we were putting people in jail for. 548 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,840 It was stealing money, stealing drugs, selling drugs. 549 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,320 How bad can you go? 550 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,960 - [Reporter] Six weeks ago in Harlem 551 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,880 Black Panthers seized large quantities of heroin 552 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,400 from drug peddlers and poured it into the street. 553 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,400 They refuse to turn it over to police 554 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,440 because they insisted police would only re- sell it 555 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,480 to the pushers. 556 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,520 - I would have no sympathy for someone like me. 557 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,560 I would be very harsh towards someone 558 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,680 who behaved like I did. 559 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,120 - My father prioritized work over his family. 560 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,280 Being a detective, being a New York City police officer 561 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,000 was his life, he loved it. 562 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,480 But he wasn't home that often. 563 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,840 And there were times he'd show up 564 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,280 with some of his informants 565 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,760 and the majority of his informants were heroin addicts. 566 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,840 He'd bring them to the house. 567 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,280 Those are little things that would stick in my head. 568 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,040 Just these unusual things that were happening 569 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,000 around my house that weren't normal 570 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,680 day-to-day events for most homes. 571 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,640 He loved being out, he loved being about. 572 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,800 He wasn't loyal to my mother. 573 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,800 He wasn't a good husband from that standpoint. 574 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,920 His lifestyle was going the wrong direction. 575 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,160 He realized it. 576 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,000 [soft music] 577 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,960 - I was having a barbecue at my house. 578 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,480 And all my friends were there, 579 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,000 all the cops that I worked with came to the house. 580 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,880 And my father came. 581 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,200 "Look, I met all these guys, your friends, 582 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,520 these cops, they don't look like cops, 583 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,760 they don't act like cops, they don't sound like cops." 584 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,080 He said, "I grew up with gangsters. 585 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,600 They all sound like gangsters. 586 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,320 The way they talk, their view of the world." 587 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,760 They were all wearing diamond rings. 588 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,240 They were all wearing gold bracelets. 589 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,840 They were all wearing necklaces. 590 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,200 [indistinct chatter] 591 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,640 My brother was a heroin addict. 592 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,400 My father said, "It's people like you and your friends, 593 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,960 are responsible for that." 594 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,440 And I took a good, long close look at myself. 595 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,960 I was dressing differently, I was behaving differently, 596 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,680 speaking differently. 597 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,120 I said, "This is not me, I don't want to be this. 598 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,840 I'm a policeman, not a gangster." 599 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,240 - I think it's about time that something's done to prove 600 00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:23,360 that. uh, New York City's police really aren't the finest. 601 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,520 - All the things that they've been doing, 602 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,560 taking the money, the bribes and everything else, 603 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,680 - That should be brought out in the open 604 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,320 and let's hope that this corruption ceases immediately. 605 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,560 - The easy people to point the finger at are the policemen, 606 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,720 that's too easy. 607 00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:47,720 You cannot expose and end police corruption 608 00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:50,400 unless you go after the real cause of corruption. 609 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,000 - [Reporter] The courtroom also has its rotten apples. 610 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,840 Prosecutors, lawyers, even judges and jurors. 611 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,600 - Our investigation has certainly shown 612 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:03,760 that we are not dealing 613 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,880 with a few rotten apples by any means. 614 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,440 It's not the rotten apples it's the barrel. 615 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:13,160 - We were investigating cops, 616 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,880 we were investigating judges, we're investigating lawyers. 617 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,480 It was a watershed of corruption in New York City. 618 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,480 The corruption went through the entire system 619 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,280 and had to go through the entire system to be effective. 620 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,440 [dramatic music] 621 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,240 - Someone got in touch with me at one point 622 00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:36,200 and asked me if I would get involved in an investigation 623 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,880 investigating the criminal justice system in New York, 624 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,320 not the police. 625 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,000 [tape clicking] 626 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,640 Who is this guy? 627 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,480 Where does he come from? 628 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,560 What does he want from me? 629 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,120 And I couldn't explain why I was doing it, 630 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,720 why I was talking to him, 631 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:55,200 but the whole thing sounds scary. 632 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,480 - I had some information about Bob Leuci 633 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,280 because there were allegations of corruption 634 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,760 against any number of police officers in the SIU. 635 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,840 [ominous music] 636 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,120 I met with him in my office. 637 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,480 We talked for a couple of hours in the office. 638 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,560 He did indeed start by acknowledging 639 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,200 three different cases that he had been involved in 640 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,280 where he had been involved in corruption. 641 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,600 - [Bob] I think I may have found an important friend. 642 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,600 I wanted to tell him everything. 643 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,960 I want to get it out from me, I want to get it all out. 644 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,240 All the things that I had been doing 645 00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:39,080 and all of the things that had me really uptight 646 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,560 over the last several years. 647 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,360 And I thought by confession that it would be over 648 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,800 and I would start new again. 649 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,280 - As it turned out we ended up talking 650 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,360 that first day into the night 651 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,120 until five o'clock in the morning and it broke off, 652 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:58,960 we got some sleep. 653 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,160 We came back, we did it again. 654 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,280 We did that for four days and four nights. 655 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,760 [clock ticking] 656 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,840 We are still talking about motivation and why, 657 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,680 and fear and anxiety, guilt, 658 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,120 the desire to be on the right side 659 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,480 after having been on the wrong side for so long. 660 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,800 - I have a feeling that they maybe had something on him 661 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:28,040 and that he chose to cooperate rather than be arrested 662 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:30,560 and being charged with something. 663 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,880 - I know what he was. 664 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,400 He was liar that got caught, a thief that got caught 665 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,880 and now he's playing the game. 666 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,920 - No one ever caught me doing anything wrong. 667 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,800 And I had never saw any good point 668 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,440 of my telling them all the things I'd done. 669 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,600 I told them I did a couple of minor things 670 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,280 so they would believe what I had to say. 671 00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:51,400 Whereas I had done a lot of things. 672 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,080 [suspenseful music] 673 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,320 - Leuci had seen what was coming 674 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,160 and what he did was he got out in front of the curve, 675 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,000 as they say. 676 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,760 He began to cooperate before the investigators got to him. 677 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,440 [upbeat music] 678 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,160 - [Bob] I would show them where the corruption was 679 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,160 that the police were the least involved. 680 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,920 I never had a lawyer working in narcotics 681 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,520 that didn't offer me a bribe in one form or another. 682 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,360 I was shown that the entire court system was corrupt. 683 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,680 - I think my father truly believed 684 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,360 he was the smartest guy in the room, 685 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,400 like he could get involved in a way where he could dictate 686 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,680 how an investigation was going to go. 687 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,320 - We put word out on the street 688 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,920 that I had access to grand jury testimony. 689 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,160 I don't know if you know what that means. 690 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,120 It's private testimony 691 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,200 that's having to do with investigations. 692 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,880 If we set that out, people would get in touch with me. 693 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,440 [phone ringing] 694 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,640 A private detective got in touch with me 695 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,960 [muffled conversation] 696 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,600 and he said, "Listen, I have a client 697 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,280 who's a very big lawyer, big time lawyer 698 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,320 who would pay a lot of money to find out 699 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,280 what kind of testimony's going on in the grand jury 700 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,440 having to do with him." 701 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,960 I said, "I can get that information." 702 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,000 - Eddie Rosner was a very successful lawyer 703 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,600 in New York City. 704 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,360 He handled a lot of drug cases 705 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,640 and he was suspected of having fabricated evidence. 706 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,160 They wanted to get him 707 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,400 they were prepared to do anything to get him. 708 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,760 [dramatic music] 709 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,200 So they set them up through Robert Leuci 710 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,080 to commit an additional crime. 711 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:11,480 [tape scratching] 712 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,000 - Wearing a wire, we met. 713 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,200 We came with the New York City police detective 714 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,400 who was a friend of his. 715 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,280 And he asked me if I could get access 716 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,040 to this grand jury testimony 717 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,720 having to deal with one of his clients. 718 00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:31,320 And I'll pay you a lot of money. 719 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,040 - They had him on tape 720 00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:38,880 and they were determined to put him away 721 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,280 and get him disbarred. 722 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,040 [dramatic music] 723 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,560 - [Reporter] Edmund A Rosner was convicted yesterday 724 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,600 for bribing a federal official. 725 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,000 - [Reporter] Mr. Rosner wanted names of witnesses 726 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,960 that would be killed instead of testifying. 727 00:40:57,720 --> 00:41:01,200 - [Reporter] Two NYPD detectives were also indicted 728 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,120 in the case. 729 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,200 - The double life that he was leading, 730 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,840 I think he actually enjoyed it. 731 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,720 Acting as an SIU agent, arresting people, 732 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:23,560 at the same time going after bad cops, 733 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,160 going after bad attorneys. 734 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,320 Once he took this role, he liked it. 735 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,840 [soft music] 736 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,800 - Some days I would wear a wire and some days I wouldn't. 737 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,080 Some days I have a sense from the last meeting 738 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,880 that they're gonna search me, you know? 739 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,400 So I'm not going to wear a wire. 740 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,320 Or other times I'm not worried about it. 741 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,400 I'm gonna wear a wire. 742 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,160 - Leuci was providing excellent, undercover work, 743 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,400 a whole wealth of important information 744 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,440 so he was a very valuable cooperator. 745 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,720 - He'd be invited to stealing money 746 00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:22,760 because he was known as a corrupt cop 747 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,320 and they trusted him. 748 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,920 [beeping] [static] 749 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,200 - [Bob] My car's over here. 750 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,720 - [Man] Bobby, I'll call your house in about an hour or two. 751 00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:33,400 - [Bob] I'm off until Sunday night, though, you know? 752 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,160 - [Man] All right. 753 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,760 [static] - He was a very, very good undercover, 754 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,280 because he could bullshit his way out of a paper bag. 755 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,600 [laughing] 756 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,080 - What he said was, 757 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,600 "If I fall on any corrupt cops in the way, 758 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:52,760 I'll get them for you too, 759 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,480 but I will not work against my partners." 760 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,120 [dramatic music] 761 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,040 - The word started to go out that Bob Leuci 762 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,000 was wearing a wire. 763 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,880 - As rumored for some months, a prime government witness 764 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,680 is from the ranks of the police department 765 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,440 and he apparently is ready to talk. 766 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,600 - Leuci had entrapped a bail bondsman and a detective 767 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,920 and they realized that he had been turned as cops say, 768 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,920 that he was working for the prosecutors 769 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,520 and they were going to kill him. 770 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,320 - They grabbed me, they put a gun on me, 771 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,560 they said they were gonna take me someplace, search me, 772 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,480 and if they found a wire, they were gonna kill me. 773 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,600 [music continues] 774 00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:49,720 I had a wire on. 775 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,560 And when I sat the transmitter would sometimes turn 776 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,760 in its casing and the backside of it was metal. 777 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,480 And had burnt into my skin. 778 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,200 And I was dying to get my hands on his thing. 779 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,000 And I couldn't shut it off because they taped it 780 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,960 in such a way that I couldn't click it on or off. 781 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:15,480 And the guy who was driving goes, 782 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,360 "What the hell smells in here? 783 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,280 Did you step in dog shit? It's terrible." 784 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,040 It had burned through my skin. 785 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,120 I really thought I'm paying for what I'm done. 786 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,840 We were in the middle of a Little Italy. 787 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,400 And I saw this guy across the street who I had investigated. 788 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,920 His name was Alphonse Indelicato, Sonny Red. 789 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,840 He was a big time mafia guy. 790 00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,920 He saw what was going on. 791 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,960 I said, "Look, go ask him if you could trust me." 792 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,400 And they looked at his mafia guy who was a major bad guy. 793 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,480 [suspenseful music] 794 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,560 [train horn blaring] 795 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,160 He tells them, "Look, if you think he's a rat, kill him, 796 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,480 but you better be right, because he's a friend of mine 797 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:23,840 and I like him. 798 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,520 So if you're wrong, I'll come after your ass." 799 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:27,680 And they were petrified of this, 800 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,520 everyone was afraid of this guy. 801 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,640 So they came back and they said, 802 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,800 "Well, if he likes you, you gotta be okay." 803 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,080 After that, I became very frightened. 804 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,960 - He didn't know that he was doing the right thing. 805 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,560 He hoped he was doing the right thing 806 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,640 and he hoped he would be able to protect his partners. 807 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,360 - They couldn't be closer. 808 00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:00,800 Would you turn on your closest friends? 809 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,640 Let me ask you, would you? 810 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,480 Years of friendship and trust 811 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,960 and going to each other's barbecues 812 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:11,160 and religious, everything, they shared all of that. 813 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,600 - My world was the police world. 814 00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:21,840 And I work with all these guys in different situations 815 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,040 and they all trusted me and took care of me. 816 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,960 It's only when someone who was part of it all 817 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,880 turns on you, that's when you get hurt 818 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,200 and that's when you get hurt badly. 819 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,600 [soft music] 820 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,240 [people chattering] [cameras clicking] 821 00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:49,040 - I'm confident that my office can do anything 822 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,080 but that's probably one of my weaknesses. 823 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,240 [chuckling] 824 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,440 - I participated in the SIU investigation being led 825 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,040 by Rudy Giuliani who was at that time 826 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,440 head of the Corruption Unit. 827 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,600 Rudy and I spent an evening with Bob Leuci 828 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:19,000 and my task at that time was to debrief Bob Leuci. 829 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,840 [dramatic music] 830 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,520 We spent a lot of time going over the various teams 831 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,280 that Leuci work with, 832 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,680 which took weeks and weeks and weeks. 833 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,560 - [Bob] I'm not gonna implicate any of my friends. 834 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,960 Do you want me to destroy myself? 835 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:40,800 You want me to go and say 836 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:41,680 I did all of these kinds of things. 837 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:42,560 I'll never do it. 838 00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:45,920 Why should I make cases against my friends 839 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,360 when I can make cases against other people 840 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,840 and accomplish the same thing? 841 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,280 And so two guys go and both fuck yourselves. 842 00:47:55,720 --> 00:47:58,160 - Giuliani, who later was mayor of New York 843 00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,320 and ran for president 844 00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:03,440 became convinced that Leuci was covering up something. 845 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,280 - The vast majority he's been a good, 846 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,600 honest, law abiding, family loving, decent man 847 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,080 who'd do criminal things once in awhile. 848 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,640 - They began to pressure Leuci who slowly went to pieces. 849 00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:24,600 - [Detective] What do you see reflected 850 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,720 in the mirror in the morning? 851 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:28,080 What are your children going to see in you 852 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,080 in three or four years from now 853 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,680 when they're old enough to decide what you are? 854 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:32,920 What does your wife see? 855 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,840 - Some of the people that he dealt with 856 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,960 were smart enough to see 857 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,400 that Bob was basically an insecure person 858 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,720 with an ego, and they played to that. 859 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,640 - And finally, Leuci cracked. 860 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,920 And with that, he began to talk. 861 00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:02,120 [soft music] 862 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,720 - [Reporter] A jury heard detective Robert Leuci in person 863 00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:17,600 and on tape yesterday. 864 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,000 - [Reporter] Tape recorded conversations 865 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,320 between detective Leuci and three men. 866 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:24,800 - [Giuliani] I can comment only to the extent 867 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,080 that there are public charges today. 868 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:32,000 - Giuliani wanted to be a known prosecutor, which he was. 869 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,680 I mean, he put everybody in jail. 870 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,240 [music continues] 871 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,120 - Several were indicted, several went to jail, 872 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,360 others If they didn't get indicted or go to jail, 873 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,560 they were fired from the police department. 874 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,440 - He got himself out of the jackpot 875 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,600 and put everybody else in it. 876 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,400 He sold his soul to save his ass. 877 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,000 - [Man] A private investigator overheard a conversation 878 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:36,000 between three or four people at the casino in Las Vegas. 879 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,240 They discuss the killing of Bob Leuci 880 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,160 and how it was to be done. 881 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,840 [explosion] 882 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,720 I became really, really paranoid at that point though. 883 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,560 - [Interviewer] Why did some cops want to kill him? 884 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,960 - Hopefully destroy the cases against them 885 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,240 if he couldn't testify. 886 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,280 Revenge for ruining their lives. 887 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,600 And he betrayed them. 888 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,360 - He had to go into the Witness Protection Program. 889 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,560 He had to be hidden from the world 890 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,320 [slow music] 891 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,120 His family, too, had to move out. 892 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,600 - My son, who's was a young, young little kid at the time, 893 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,080 he said that there had been a car 894 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,960 driving around the house where we lived. 895 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,320 You know, had gone around the block a few times 896 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:38,760 and it made him nervous. 897 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,880 - I was young, anywhere from four, six years old. 898 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,320 So, but having those marshals in the house, 899 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,320 there's something going on behind the scenes 900 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,520 that I'm not being made aware of. 901 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,080 No one's explaining to me what's happening. 902 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,200 But there are these men in our house. 903 00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,800 Their concern was that if they didn't go after my father, 904 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,120 they'd go after his family. 905 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,280 - My wife and the children were moved 906 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,640 in the Catskill Mountains 907 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,640 in a little hunting lodge that I had. 908 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,200 [somber music] 909 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,000 I lived out in Governors Island, 910 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,440 which is a military base off Manhattan. 911 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,480 I was put under protection for four years 912 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,600 and I had 18 bodyguards who were all New York cops. 913 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,120 - Once my husband decided to do it, he gave me a way out. 914 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,800 He said, "Either you're going to go through it with me 915 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,160 or you could get out." 916 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,800 - Did you ever think about getting out? 917 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,200 - No, I don't think there was any question at any time. 918 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,440 - She's trying to make our lives as normal as possible. 919 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,160 She was the one who had the brunt of everything 920 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,160 that was going on at home while he was away, 921 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,280 when he was out testifying, 922 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:11,840 he was with marshals, he was secluded, 923 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:12,880 he was in different areas. 924 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,520 She was home with kids 925 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,000 hoping that the house was protected, 926 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,680 hoping the marshals do their jobs and that's difficult. 927 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:21,880 Sorry. 928 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,760 - I want my marriage to work out. 929 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:27,600 - [Interviewer] Is that in jeopardy 930 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:28,520 because what your husband did? 931 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,480 - Yes, I think so. 932 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,960 [drone sounds] 933 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,560 [people chattering] 934 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,800 - [Reporter] The question is whether the state could 935 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,360 or should indict Leuci, 936 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,200 now a federal witness who is cooperating. 937 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,280 - Leuci was portraying himself as having joined 938 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,640 with Scoppetta and the others to overcome corruption. 939 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:57,320 But 940 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,440 for all that claim of doing good and cleaning up, 941 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,080 there was an underlying filth, if you would, 942 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,400 a corruption that Leuci hid. 943 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,400 [suspenseful music] 944 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,720 - When you're dealing with an informant like Bob Leuci, 945 00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:19,600 there's a tendency to fall in love with, 946 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,040 to become so favorable to the cooperator, 947 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:23,960 you're happy, you're pleased with 948 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,960 what the cooperators telling you 949 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,760 that you close your eyes to what should be obvious. 950 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,680 - He was steadfast that he'd committed four or five acts. 951 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,720 And the truth of the matter is he committed hundreds of acts 952 00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:42,840 and he made an awful lot of money. 953 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,840 - Bob Leuci committed probably more crimes 954 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,400 than almost any other police officer 955 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,840 in the city of New York. 956 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,080 [pulsating music] 957 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,920 - I represented several of the 958 00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,840 Special Investigator Unit detectives 959 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,600 who had been charged. 960 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,040 By that time, 961 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,520 there was a lot known about Leuci 962 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,640 in the sense of what he had done. 963 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,000 - [Reporter] Former narcotics detective Robert Leuci 964 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,640 admitted yesterday that he had committed 965 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,200 possibly hundreds of criminal acts 966 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,960 in which he previously had denied taking part of. 967 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,320 - [Reporter] Shaking down drug dealers 968 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,200 for as much as $40,000 and splitting the take. 969 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,640 Bribes of as much as $50,000 970 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,200 reportedly were paid by heroin dealers... 971 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,560 [distorted vocals] 972 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,600 - We had a ton of bad acts, 973 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:43,120 not only stealing and the corruption, but the lying. 974 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,320 "I lied before to these prosecutors and oh yeah, I did. 975 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,360 I lied in the grand jury 976 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,920 but now I'm gonna tell the truth." 977 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:52,880 Doesn't make any sense. 978 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,080 He looked like a fool to be honest with you. 979 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,080 - Never got prosecuted, no. 980 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,400 I was lucky to have friends. 981 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,840 I had some really amazing people on my side. 982 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:05,680 - Bob Leuci 983 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,520 turned around on the essential problem, 984 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,160 the corruption that existed in narcotics enforcement 985 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,880 without having been caught, 986 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,600 without having been pushed up against the wall 987 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:18,760 and forced to turn around. 988 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,840 He did it because something was happening inside of him 989 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,560 that bothered him about it, and that's a great credit. 990 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,960 - Giuliani said, "You can't jail this man, 991 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,120 not after what he has given the public 992 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,400 and what he's been through." 993 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,000 - I never ever dreamt it would ever turn 994 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,440 on the police the way it did. 995 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,720 And I guess they blame me for initiating it all. 996 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:54,680 Starting it all. 997 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:57,720 - [Carl] I trusted him- 998 00:56:57,720 --> 00:57:01,320 - [Reporter] Carl Aguilas today has a secret identity. 999 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,160 He was one of the cops trapped by Leuci. 1000 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,680 - He invited me over to his house one day 1001 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,040 and the kitchen would be wired. 1002 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,720 I'd be holding his baby on my lap. 1003 00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:12,440 And there was a real friend, 1004 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,400 supposedly a real friendly type buddy, buddy situation. 1005 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,280 However, I was being recorded. 1006 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,640 We were like brothers, I trusted him. 1007 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,560 [pounding] 1008 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:24,960 - [Bob] I'll never hurt Mandato, 1009 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,640 I'll never hurt Wolff, I'll never hurt Cody. 1010 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,240 I'm not gonna do it, those are my partners. 1011 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,520 I'm not gonna do it. 1012 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,240 [pulsating music] 1013 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,320 - Cody was supposed to testify. 1014 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,080 [ominous music] 1015 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,920 The night before he testified 1016 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:49,200 he was to be babysat by two agents. 1017 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,600 I asked him to stay with him through the night, they didn't. 1018 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,080 The next day Cody went out, 1019 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:59,960 sat down at Prospect Park and blew his head off with pistol. 1020 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,960 [sirens wailing] 1021 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,280 Bob heard that and he took out a bottle of Valium five 1022 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,240 and swallowed it and ran out the office, 1023 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,760 disappeared for a few days. 1024 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,800 [somber music] 1025 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,200 - [Bob] David Cody, he was one of a kind. 1026 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,240 Everything he did centered around 1027 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,600 the New York City Police Department. 1028 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,320 Retirement parties, Christmas parties, 1029 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,280 during the summer watching the Yankees. 1030 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:47,680 I spoke to him. 1031 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,840 That the only thing to do was to come in 1032 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,040 and tell the whole story 1033 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,120 and talk about the things not only he did, 1034 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,920 but things that we all did together. 1035 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,040 I thought that was the only sane way out 1036 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,080 for us at that point. 1037 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,840 But it was just too much for Dave to handle, 1038 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:08,680 that's for sure. 1039 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,880 [somber music] 1040 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,120 - He could move past a lot of things in his life. 1041 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:30,840 He could never move past that. 1042 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:35,680 It was so hard for him. 1043 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,160 - [Bob] There are certain things 1044 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,560 you can't say I'm sorry for. 1045 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,440 You're way, way past the I'm sorry part. 1046 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,040 [birds cawing] 1047 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,440 [newsreel music] 1048 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,760 - A month ago Bob Leuci retired after serving 20 years 1049 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,680 on the New York City Police Force 1050 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,120 and he's with us here this morning. 1051 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,080 One thing that you got out of all this. 1052 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,680 - Well, one of the major thing that I got out of it 1053 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,000 was an opportunity to change my life 1054 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,160 you know, and to live a new life. 1055 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,400 - Now, a book has been written about the special agony 1056 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,760 of his life as a cop and as a citizen, 1057 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,880 it is called "Prince of the City." 1058 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,680 It was written by Robert Daley, 1059 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,440 former deputy police commissioner here in New York City. 1060 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,840 - I didn't know about detective Leuci 1061 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:41,960 and I didn't want to meet him. 1062 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,960 To me, he was just a corrupt cop. 1063 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,400 I had no use for corrupt cops. 1064 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,480 Then he called me up sometime later 1065 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,560 and begged me to do his life story, to listen to him. 1066 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,640 Leuci practically lived at our house. 1067 01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,000 He came every morning. 1068 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,640 I wanted the title to be the cop who knew too much 1069 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,240 and I got shot down. 1070 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,240 The movie people said, "No, no, Prince of the City." 1071 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,880 - [Reporter] Corruption within the NYPD 1072 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,120 will become the subject 1073 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,800 of a major Hollywood movie next year. [actors screeching] 1074 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,360 Orion Pictures has just purchased 1075 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,200 "Prince of the City" by Robert Daley. 1076 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,600 - Nobody cares about me, but my partner. Fuck you! 1077 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,320 - When I was 29 years old, I played Bob Leuci 1078 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,880 and consequently I became a good friend 1079 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,280 of Bob's over the years. 1080 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,120 - At different times, he captured me 100% 1081 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,880 and other times I think it was Treat. [Treat laughs] 1082 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,440 And he's an actor 1083 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,520 and, uh, he's a wonderful performer. 1084 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,800 [soft music] 1085 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,440 - There are no heroes. There are no villains. 1086 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,280 Everybody was trying to do what they thought was best. 1087 01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,000 And that kind of complexity is endlessly interesting to me. 1088 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,960 - Sidney said one of the reasons that he hired me 1089 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,600 was I didn't really care what people thought of me. 1090 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,720 I wouldn't worry about being likable 1091 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:15,720 because ultimately the character becomes quite unlikeable. 1092 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,880 [music intensifies] 1093 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,760 - He embraced the fame. 1094 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,160 Another part of his mind took over 1095 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,720 and he thought of himself as a celebrity. 1096 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:34,560 - I've been talking to someone recently 1097 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,600 about writing a screenplay about 1098 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,160 "The Return of Superfly" for example. 1099 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,200 And it was a thought- 1100 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,000 - Bob really has changed. 1101 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:45,960 I shouldn't say for the worse, 1102 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,120 but he isn't the man I married, not by any means. 1103 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,080 - He didn't feel like his wife fit into the crowd 1104 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,280 that he was now a part of. 1105 01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,240 You know... 1106 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,520 dinner parties where Sean Connery was there 1107 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:07,440 or going out with Rudy Giuliani and his girlfriend. 1108 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,000 - The film and the book has put as much stress on the family 1109 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,560 and my marriage as anything else that I've experienced. 1110 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,240 - You're asking me about that movie. 1111 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:25,760 - [Interviewer] Yeah. 1112 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,080 - "Prince of the City." - Yeah. 1113 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:28,920 - It sucked. 1114 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,920 [soft music] 1115 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,600 - [Reporter] The movie has also provoked controversy. 1116 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,880 Some law enforcement officials say the film 1117 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,080 falsely glamorizes Mr. Leuci 1118 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,360 from the now defunct Special Investigations Unit. 1119 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:43,760 - Makes me want to throw up 1120 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,040 when I see them idolize him and say he was the hero. 1121 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,720 Don't hold this guy up as a living example 1122 01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,280 of what you should do if you get your ass in a jam, 1123 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:56,720 because that's not the right thing to do. 1124 01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,040 Don't get your ass in a jam. 1125 01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:00,840 Do it right to begin with. 1126 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,200 - I don't see how anybody could stretch it 1127 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:07,440 to make them a hero. 1128 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,800 He was a weakling and a coward 1129 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,360 that thought to save himself above everybody else. 1130 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,200 - You making any money on the movie? 1131 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,840 - Movie, hopefully will make money. 1132 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,800 - He was a celebrity, but he was nothing but a crook. 1133 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:27,640 - Absolutely. 1134 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,320 - I think he enjoyed being a celebrity. 1135 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,040 I think he liked being the center of attention. 1136 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:35,560 And I think that's one of the things 1137 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:36,880 that the hatred for Bob was, 1138 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,560 that somehow he became the star, 1139 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,200 that he got famous as result of this, 1140 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,600 that he made money off of this. 1141 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,520 - He's not enjoying this. 1142 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:49,960 He's not enjoying this fame. 1143 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,680 He's not enjoying this hero reputation 1144 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,480 because he knows it's just not true. 1145 01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,560 - His career was ruined. 1146 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,360 And his name will go down ever in history 1147 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,800 as being a police rat. 1148 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:19,640 [Bob speaking indistinctly] 1149 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,120 - [Kathy] Just the mail today. 1150 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,320 - I'll carry that. 1151 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,520 - I just want to see how full this is, okay? 1152 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:29,560 - Yeah. 1153 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:30,880 - No, I'm gonna take the other tank. 1154 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:31,760 This one's almost empty. 1155 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,000 - I hardly use it all. 1156 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,640 - [Kathy] Honey, it's almost empty. 1157 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,200 It doesn't make any difference how much you used it. 1158 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:37,720 - [Bob] I have the other thing, the nebulizer. 1159 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,200 - [Kathy] Uh-huh. 1160 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:40,320 - I'll just take that, that's enough. 1161 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,920 - Are you sure? - Yeah, yeah. 1162 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,400 - He really thought he was going to be 1163 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,040 this great American hero. 1164 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,080 Instead, he became one of the most hated men 1165 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,200 in the police department. 1166 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,440 You talk to people in the police department now, 1167 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,400 they know his name and they call him a rat. 1168 01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:01,840 I'm not sure that was a good trade off. 1169 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,560 [somber music] 1170 01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,520 [birds chirping] 1171 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,360 He and his first wife divorced. 1172 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,120 So he moved up to Rhode Island. 1173 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,520 [soft music] 1174 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,200 - I can't walk too far, you know, it's crazy. 1175 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,440 - He was star of all the dinner parties up here 1176 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,440 because they had this celebrity in their midst. 1177 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:05,400 - You can't believe everything you read. 1178 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,720 My last name is Leuci, L-E-U-C-I, look it up. 1179 01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,440 If you get a chance, Google me. 1180 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:12,880 You may not be a fan, but you'll see. 1181 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:14,040 [man laughing] 1182 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:15,640 - Nice to meet you. - Nice meeting you, take care. 1183 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,440 - You've gone from being hated in one part of the country 1184 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:19,720 to another part of the country 1185 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,760 where everyone thinks this is great. 1186 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,680 [seagulls chirping] 1187 01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:33,240 [cars honking] [sirens wailing] 1188 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:37,960 [heavy breathing] 1189 01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,760 [somber music] 1190 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:55,880 - Well, a former New York detective 1191 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,600 who famously exposed corruption in the NYPD 1192 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,840 in the 1970s has died. 1193 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,200 Robert Leuci put his life on the line to blow the whistle 1194 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,320 on a narcotics unit that was accepting cash 1195 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,120 and drugs from dealers. 1196 01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,440 His service was honored in the movie "Prince of the City." 1197 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,280 He emerged from Witness Protection... 1198 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,720 - If you ask 100 people, 1199 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,040 how are you going to remember Bob in one word? 1200 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,000 You're going to get 100 different words. 1201 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,520 [somber music] 1202 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,360 The people that loved him the most 1203 01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,960 were the ones who were not blind to his faults. 1204 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,400 And he had plenty like everyone. 1205 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:56,800 - I can't imagine my father will ever be seen as the hero. 1206 01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,960 I mean, what he did was heroic. 1207 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,120 I think, he was directly responsible 1208 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:02,760 for changing the culture 1209 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,360 of the New York City Police Department. 1210 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,520 [soft music] 1211 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,560 - Did it make any real difference, Sylvia, 1212 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,320 after all the agony? 1213 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:13,160 - You know what the top 1214 01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:14,600 US drug enforcement official told me? 1215 01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,760 He said that his only regret was that Bob Leuci 1216 01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,080 is no longer in law enforcement. 1217 01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:19,760 And that it's because of him 1218 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,840 that cops no longer routinely steal and deal drugs. 1219 01:09:24,440 --> 01:09:26,080 - [Reporter] As a result of the Leuci case, 1220 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,840 the police department and the state in the last decade 1221 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,040 have adopted new tactics to discourage 1222 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,520 and uproot corruption in New York City. 1223 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,200 - [Officer] That cancer that almost killed our department 1224 01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,960 some years ago will never ever happen again. 1225 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,040 [audience cheering] 1226 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,120 - The criminal justice system cleaned itself up 1227 01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,840 but the publicity that came out of those cases 1228 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,240 put the fear of God into a lot of people. 1229 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:52,840 [audience applauding] 1230 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,000 - I think the exposure had a dramatic effect 1231 01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:00,560 on public understanding of police corruption. 1232 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,760 - This man went a long way toward cleaning up 1233 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:03,880 something that was very rotten 1234 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,440 in the New York City Police Department. 1235 01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:06,840 - [Interviewer] Thank you very much, Mr. Leuci, 1236 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,120 thank you for all the contributions 1237 01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:09,760 you've done to the police system. 1238 01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,920 - It did clean it up, but you know something? 1239 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,920 It's a cyclical thing. 1240 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:18,920 You think, oh, it's all cleaned up. 1241 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,360 Four more years later, it happens again. 1242 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:22,440 And it happens again. 1243 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,120 [dramatic music] 1244 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,400 - [Reporter] The corrupt cups were called good cups. 1245 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,840 - 'Cause it was the blue wall of silence. 1246 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,520 Cops don't tell on cops. 1247 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,400 - [Reporter] Right now, 10 out of 75 police precincts 1248 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,200 are being investigated for corruption. 1249 01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,640 - [Woman] 11 murders committed by 1250 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,480 and for their mob benefactors. 1251 01:10:44,480 --> 01:10:47,280 - We are here today, again, 1252 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,360 to announce public corruption charges, 1253 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,920 this time at some of the highest and most sensitive levels 1254 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,840 of the New York City Police Department. 1255 01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,800 [suspenseful music] 1256 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,720 - I see cases just like the Robert Leuci case 1257 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:04,960 every day today. 1258 01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,800 I see them today when police kill innocent suspects 1259 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,240 and the police will cover for themselves 1260 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:16,240 and prosecutors cover for the police. 1261 01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:21,040 It's important that we create a culture 1262 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,480 whereby whistle blowers within the police department 1263 01:11:23,480 --> 01:11:25,400 are praised rather than condemned. 1264 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:36,720 - It's been a while since I got wired up. 1265 01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,920 - [Interviewer] Leuci always used to joke about that. 1266 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:41,440 - Yeah, well, he would know. 1267 01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:44,800 - Putting on the wire again. - He would know. 1268 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,200 I hope there's a hell and he's in it. 1269 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,720 [soft guitar music] 1270 01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,640 - [Bob] Someone once said that there are some teardrops 1271 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:01,640 that just never dry. 1272 01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,880 And I don't think that time heals all wounds. 1273 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:07,960 I wish it did. 1274 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,200 ♪ Pool Hall, quarter a ball ♪ 1275 01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,240 ♪ Pick your stick and hang it on the wall ♪ 1276 01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,280 ♪ Aim slow, shoot it low ♪ 1277 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,040 ♪ Fall for it all and you'll never know ♪ 1278 01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,480 ♪ There a black eight, won't roll straight ♪ 1279 01:12:25,480 --> 01:12:28,360 ♪ Scratch every match and you're easy bait ♪ 1280 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,960 ♪ For a cue shark, shootin' his mark ♪ 1281 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,880 ♪ To a pay day give away in the dark ♪ 1282 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:39,880 ♪ Lucy Ann your man's been out rambling ♪ 1283 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:45,760 ♪ What will he bringing home to you ♪ 1284 01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:51,680 ♪ On the winds that sing of whiskey, wine and gambling ♪ 1285 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,560 [soft music] 1286 01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,760 [somber piano music]