1 00:00:07,674 --> 00:00:08,041 - I'm Kate Snow, 2 00:00:08,942 --> 00:00:12,412 and this is "Dateline: Secrets Uncovered." 3 00:00:12,445 --> 00:00:16,683 - Samira was full of energy, very attractive girl. 4 00:00:16,716 --> 00:00:18,852 She had that model look. 5 00:00:18,885 --> 00:00:22,622 She did not do anything low key. 6 00:00:22,655 --> 00:00:25,825 All of the strange twists this story took, 7 00:00:25,859 --> 00:00:28,395 now you know somebody who's been murdered, 8 00:00:28,428 --> 00:00:30,697 It was, like, nothing I'd ever expect to happen. 9 00:00:30,730 --> 00:00:34,134 - Inside a gated community, a harrowing discovery. 10 00:00:39,973 --> 00:00:42,142 I studied the crime scene, looking just for, 11 00:00:42,175 --> 00:00:43,576 does anything stand out? 12 00:00:43,610 --> 00:00:45,979 - The first focus: her sandal. 13 00:00:46,012 --> 00:00:48,515 - Tucked right underneath the hose on the edge. 14 00:00:48,548 --> 00:00:50,850 - It's very obvious this was staged. 15 00:00:50,884 --> 00:00:54,120 - Was there someone who'd wanted Samira out of the way? 16 00:00:54,154 --> 00:00:55,588 - He observed a Black female 17 00:00:55,622 --> 00:00:58,491 standing outside of the Frasch's residence. 18 00:01:00,260 --> 00:01:03,063 - And Mr. Frasch had multiple female acquaintances. 19 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:05,198 - They all had a common career. 20 00:01:05,231 --> 00:01:06,533 And they were exotic dancers. 21 00:01:06,566 --> 00:01:10,603 - Two critical clues, one chilling plot. 22 00:01:10,637 --> 00:01:12,605 - We had an unknown DNA 23 00:01:12,639 --> 00:01:15,975 on a robe that came off of the victim. 24 00:01:16,076 --> 00:01:17,344 I literally looked at it for a minute. 25 00:01:17,377 --> 00:01:18,845 I was like, seriously? 26 00:01:18,878 --> 00:01:21,147 That was absolutely stunning. 27 00:01:21,181 --> 00:01:24,818 - Behind the curtain was a very dark story. 28 00:01:24,851 --> 00:01:32,659 ** 29 00:01:32,692 --> 00:01:35,829 - Hello and welcome to "Dateline: Secrets Uncovered." 30 00:01:35,862 --> 00:01:38,498 Samira Frasch was a success story. 31 00:01:38,531 --> 00:01:39,966 She had her own clothing line, 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,136 a wealthy husband who lavished her with gifts, 33 00:01:43,169 --> 00:01:45,105 and two beautiful daughters. 34 00:01:45,138 --> 00:01:48,274 Then she was found dead in her backyard pool. 35 00:01:48,308 --> 00:01:51,511 Was it a tragic accident or murder? 36 00:01:51,544 --> 00:01:54,514 As secrets from her marriage bubbled to the surface, 37 00:01:54,547 --> 00:01:57,150 the murky mystery behind Samira's death 38 00:01:57,183 --> 00:01:59,119 was about to grow deeper. 39 00:01:59,119 --> 00:02:01,521 Here's Keith Morrison with... 40 00:02:04,858 --> 00:02:07,127 - It was a cold morning in February, 41 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,195 cold for Northern Florida that is, 42 00:02:09,229 --> 00:02:12,198 crisp but sunny, when the call came in. 43 00:02:19,339 --> 00:02:23,410 - Made no sense really, way too cold for a swim. 44 00:02:23,443 --> 00:02:25,745 But the lady wasn't swimming, 45 00:02:25,779 --> 00:02:27,447 wasn't even floating, 46 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,816 down at the bottom of the pool. 47 00:02:31,618 --> 00:02:33,286 - She was lying face up, 48 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:36,256 her palms, too, as if in supplication, 49 00:02:36,289 --> 00:02:40,293 her leopard print robe drifting in the water around her. 50 00:02:45,331 --> 00:02:47,467 - The house with the backyard pool is located 51 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:50,770 in an exclusive gated community in Tallahassee, Florida 52 00:02:50,804 --> 00:02:52,639 called Golden Eagle. 53 00:02:52,672 --> 00:02:54,374 First responders went out there. 54 00:02:54,407 --> 00:02:57,577 And pretty soon, Sheriff's Detective Tony Giraldi 55 00:02:57,610 --> 00:02:59,112 got a call. 56 00:02:59,112 --> 00:03:02,449 - Patrol deputies had found a body in a pool, 57 00:03:02,482 --> 00:03:03,850 a woman in a pool. 58 00:03:03,883 --> 00:03:06,853 And we were scrambling our investigative unit. 59 00:03:06,886 --> 00:03:08,221 - Is that about as much as you knew 60 00:03:08,254 --> 00:03:11,224 when you got that first call? - It was. 61 00:03:11,257 --> 00:03:14,227 - He would discover the EMTs had been there by then, 62 00:03:14,260 --> 00:03:16,496 tried CPR just in case, 63 00:03:16,529 --> 00:03:18,798 given that the water was so cold. 64 00:03:18,832 --> 00:03:20,200 - I didn't think they knew 65 00:03:20,233 --> 00:03:23,937 how long she had been in the pool. 66 00:03:23,970 --> 00:03:26,473 So, um, the thought process 67 00:03:26,506 --> 00:03:29,075 was maybe that they could revive her. 68 00:03:29,075 --> 00:03:31,311 - Because a person's metabolism slows down. 69 00:03:31,344 --> 00:03:32,545 Sometimes they look like they're dead. 70 00:03:32,579 --> 00:03:33,747 Maybe they're not dead. 71 00:03:33,780 --> 00:03:34,647 Was there a serious thought 72 00:03:34,681 --> 00:03:36,716 that maybe she would survive this? 73 00:03:36,750 --> 00:03:38,651 - It wasn't the case. 74 00:03:38,685 --> 00:03:40,820 - No. At the hospital, 75 00:03:40,854 --> 00:03:42,789 the doctors tried to check her body temperature 76 00:03:42,822 --> 00:03:45,525 to determine how long she'd been dead. 77 00:03:45,558 --> 00:03:47,994 But she was too cold for their thermometer, 78 00:03:48,094 --> 00:03:51,965 no way to calculate how long she been in the pool. 79 00:03:51,998 --> 00:03:56,102 Of course by then, they'd figured out who she was. 80 00:03:56,102 --> 00:03:59,239 Samira Frasch, unusual name. 81 00:04:01,741 --> 00:04:05,145 They looked her up online, and... 82 00:04:05,178 --> 00:04:07,147 Wow. - She was gorgeous. 83 00:04:07,180 --> 00:04:08,882 - She was really va, va, voom. 84 00:04:08,915 --> 00:04:11,518 - Samira Frasch was amazing. 85 00:04:11,551 --> 00:04:12,652 Look at her. 86 00:04:12,686 --> 00:04:15,722 Stunning, most certainly, and glamorous, 87 00:04:15,755 --> 00:04:18,391 and very French. 88 00:04:18,425 --> 00:04:20,894 - It's everything or nothing. 89 00:04:20,927 --> 00:04:22,962 I'm French now. [laughs] 90 00:04:23,963 --> 00:04:26,700 - Once upon a time, she turned heads in Paris, 91 00:04:26,733 --> 00:04:30,170 a runway model, a sultry music video singer, 92 00:04:30,203 --> 00:04:35,508 a shooting star, or so the stories went. 93 00:04:35,542 --> 00:04:38,645 Such a shame what happened to Samira, 94 00:04:38,678 --> 00:04:40,914 and such a mystery. 95 00:04:40,947 --> 00:04:43,116 - When you think about all of the strange twists 96 00:04:43,149 --> 00:04:45,085 that this story took. 97 00:04:45,118 --> 00:04:48,988 - Joel Silver was a friend by the time it all ended. 98 00:04:49,089 --> 00:04:52,425 - The story is very sad how it all ended up. 99 00:04:52,459 --> 00:04:56,296 But it is still a wild story. 100 00:04:56,329 --> 00:04:58,598 - The story, her story, 101 00:04:58,631 --> 00:05:01,034 was not at all wild to begin with. 102 00:05:01,034 --> 00:05:04,304 She was born far away in French-speaking Madagascar. 103 00:05:04,337 --> 00:05:06,639 She was poor, dirt poor, 104 00:05:06,673 --> 00:05:09,609 like the dirt floors in her family's little house. 105 00:05:09,642 --> 00:05:12,812 And her story, frankly, would have ended there anonymously. 106 00:05:12,846 --> 00:05:14,547 We'd have nothing to tell, 107 00:05:14,581 --> 00:05:17,817 were it not for something in her, 108 00:05:17,851 --> 00:05:20,720 some drive, some desire. 109 00:05:20,754 --> 00:05:22,822 - She was full of energy, and determination. 110 00:05:22,856 --> 00:05:27,160 And she always wanted to be doing something. 111 00:05:27,193 --> 00:05:29,796 - Over here, we call it the American dream. 112 00:05:29,829 --> 00:05:32,599 There, it was Paris. 113 00:05:32,632 --> 00:05:34,968 It was her own hard work that won her a spot 114 00:05:35,068 --> 00:05:36,369 in a Paris college. 115 00:05:36,403 --> 00:05:39,539 It was her talent and her remarkable look 116 00:05:39,572 --> 00:05:43,810 that got her a place on Paris fashion runways. 117 00:05:43,843 --> 00:05:46,546 And still, there'd be no story for us 118 00:05:46,579 --> 00:05:51,217 were it not for the night in 2006 in a trendy Paris nightclub 119 00:05:51,251 --> 00:05:55,355 when she met him: Adam Frasch. 120 00:05:55,388 --> 00:05:57,991 Jackie Watson, a French National herself, 121 00:05:58,091 --> 00:06:00,026 was Samira's friend. 122 00:06:00,060 --> 00:06:05,298 - He shower her with gift, and love, and flowers. 123 00:06:05,331 --> 00:06:09,469 - It was that ultimate intoxicant, love at first sight. 124 00:06:09,502 --> 00:06:13,907 She was brilliant, and tall, and incredibly beautiful. 125 00:06:13,940 --> 00:06:17,711 And he was a prominent and successful Florida doctor, 126 00:06:17,744 --> 00:06:19,379 a podiatrist, and surgeon, 127 00:06:19,412 --> 00:06:23,550 and attractive, said Samira's friend, Jackie Watson. 128 00:06:23,583 --> 00:06:27,420 - Very handsome man, tall, bright blue eyes, 129 00:06:27,454 --> 00:06:28,355 very good looking. 130 00:06:28,388 --> 00:06:30,557 They were making the perfect couple. 131 00:06:30,590 --> 00:06:32,525 - And he was smitten. 132 00:06:32,559 --> 00:06:35,595 She showed him a Paris he had seen before 133 00:06:35,628 --> 00:06:38,098 but never like he saw it with Samira. 134 00:06:38,131 --> 00:06:41,401 - Beautiful lady, beautiful spirit, huge smile. 135 00:06:41,434 --> 00:06:43,470 Adam's friends saw it, too, 136 00:06:43,503 --> 00:06:45,572 like the Reverend Larry Johnson. 137 00:06:45,605 --> 00:06:48,641 - They were obviously in love with each other. 138 00:06:48,675 --> 00:06:51,778 - The romance with Adam was right out of a book. 139 00:06:51,811 --> 00:06:54,214 - She said actually it was like a fairy tale. 140 00:06:54,247 --> 00:06:56,383 - So that's how it began. 141 00:06:56,416 --> 00:06:57,851 And back and forth they went. 142 00:06:57,884 --> 00:06:59,152 He'd fly to Paris, 143 00:06:59,185 --> 00:07:01,755 she to Tallahassee, Florida, where he lived 144 00:07:01,788 --> 00:07:04,024 just so they could see each other. 145 00:07:04,057 --> 00:07:06,259 Adam couldn't stop talking about her, 146 00:07:06,292 --> 00:07:07,894 couldn't believe his luck. 147 00:07:07,927 --> 00:07:09,162 - He said, I'm in love with her 148 00:07:09,195 --> 00:07:11,031 and I'm going to marry her. 149 00:07:11,064 --> 00:07:14,167 - Mind you, Adam Frasch was a catch, too. 150 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,069 Bright? Oh, yes. 151 00:07:16,102 --> 00:07:18,138 He'd flown through college in three years, 152 00:07:18,171 --> 00:07:21,041 was the youngest graduate in his med school class, 153 00:07:21,041 --> 00:07:23,810 a workaholic in school and out. 154 00:07:23,843 --> 00:07:25,045 - When he was in college, 155 00:07:25,045 --> 00:07:27,881 he had three part time jobs for a while. 156 00:07:27,914 --> 00:07:31,084 And he'd never buy pop, because that costs too much. 157 00:07:31,117 --> 00:07:32,652 He just drink water. 158 00:07:32,686 --> 00:07:34,354 - But his medical practice, 159 00:07:34,387 --> 00:07:36,890 said his dad Alvin, was amazing. 160 00:07:36,923 --> 00:07:39,559 - It was very successful, and I'd go in the office, 161 00:07:39,592 --> 00:07:41,661 and the waiting room would be full. 162 00:07:41,695 --> 00:07:45,065 When I got there at 5:00, it'd still be full. 163 00:07:45,098 --> 00:07:46,800 - And by the time Adam met Samira, 164 00:07:46,833 --> 00:07:48,768 he was both a respected podiatrist 165 00:07:48,802 --> 00:07:52,639 and a wealthy man with two practices in Georgia, 166 00:07:52,672 --> 00:07:55,575 just over the Florida border near Tallahassee. 167 00:07:55,608 --> 00:07:58,812 - I was impressed with his professionalism. 168 00:07:58,845 --> 00:08:02,615 He was not in a hurry to do it fast, and get out, 169 00:08:02,649 --> 00:08:04,551 you know, and go on to the next patient. 170 00:08:04,584 --> 00:08:07,354 He had a big heart. 171 00:08:07,387 --> 00:08:09,389 - Before they could marry, they had to wait, 172 00:08:09,422 --> 00:08:10,824 Adam and Samira. 173 00:08:10,857 --> 00:08:13,560 He was in the midst of a divorce. 174 00:08:13,593 --> 00:08:17,030 And when it was final, they did not hesitate. 175 00:08:17,030 --> 00:08:19,065 They married in Vegas, 176 00:08:19,099 --> 00:08:22,669 and they made their home in Tallahassee. 177 00:08:22,702 --> 00:08:24,838 Not many French nationals here. 178 00:08:24,871 --> 00:08:26,339 - Yes, Tallahassee. 179 00:08:26,373 --> 00:08:29,909 - Yeah, I mean, talk about a cultural shift. 180 00:08:29,943 --> 00:08:33,146 - No kidding. You don't say. 181 00:08:33,179 --> 00:08:35,648 - Annabelle Diaz became Samira's, what? 182 00:08:35,682 --> 00:08:38,451 Sounding board? Soul mate? 183 00:08:38,485 --> 00:08:40,453 "Culture shock" is an easy phrase to say. 184 00:08:40,487 --> 00:08:43,390 But for French women like Annabelle and Samira, 185 00:08:43,423 --> 00:08:47,327 getting used to Tallahassee was not so easy. 186 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,095 - All you have to do is open your mouth and-- 187 00:08:49,129 --> 00:08:50,196 - And that's pretty much it. - --you're different. 188 00:08:50,230 --> 00:08:51,865 - Yes, yes. 189 00:08:51,898 --> 00:08:54,534 - Annabelle, who emigrated years earlier, 190 00:08:54,567 --> 00:08:57,837 had to give Samira a tutorial on the English language, 191 00:08:57,871 --> 00:08:59,305 especially when it came to words 192 00:08:59,339 --> 00:09:01,875 that began with the letter H. 193 00:09:01,908 --> 00:09:04,077 - And remember, French people don't say their H's. 194 00:09:04,110 --> 00:09:07,113 So imagine the amount of trouble you can get in 195 00:09:07,147 --> 00:09:10,016 speaking English when H's are silent. 196 00:09:10,050 --> 00:09:11,918 - It sounds like you speak from experience. 197 00:09:12,018 --> 00:09:13,620 - I do. I do. 198 00:09:13,653 --> 00:09:16,690 - So hate would come out as "ate," 199 00:09:16,723 --> 00:09:19,325 hurt as "irked," that sort of thing. 200 00:09:19,359 --> 00:09:21,795 - And I used to have this with Samira. 201 00:09:21,828 --> 00:09:23,463 I was like, no don't use "H" words. 202 00:09:23,496 --> 00:09:25,365 they are not going to understand you. 203 00:09:25,398 --> 00:09:29,035 - But here, she had friends like Jackie and Annabelle, 204 00:09:29,069 --> 00:09:33,106 and Annabelle's mother who kind of adopted Samira. 205 00:09:33,139 --> 00:09:34,708 A good life. 206 00:09:34,741 --> 00:09:36,776 - So we were just trying to be a bunch of French girls, 207 00:09:36,810 --> 00:09:39,179 drinking red wine and eating cheese. 208 00:09:39,212 --> 00:09:41,181 - And eventually, for Adam and Samira, 209 00:09:41,214 --> 00:09:42,549 there were babies. 210 00:09:42,582 --> 00:09:44,651 First, came little Hyrah, 211 00:09:44,684 --> 00:09:46,319 a baby who would have the childhood 212 00:09:46,353 --> 00:09:48,455 Samira could only dream of. 213 00:09:48,488 --> 00:09:49,856 - I think she was trying 214 00:09:49,889 --> 00:09:51,758 to really provide this world for this baby 215 00:09:51,791 --> 00:09:53,393 that she thought the baby deserved, 216 00:09:53,426 --> 00:09:55,395 that she thought Hyrah deserved. 217 00:09:55,428 --> 00:09:58,231 - Hyrah and then Skynaah. 218 00:09:58,264 --> 00:10:01,167 - Can you say hi? Hi. 219 00:10:01,201 --> 00:10:03,103 - I don't think that there is anything 220 00:10:03,136 --> 00:10:07,140 that she wanted to do or be except for their mother. 221 00:10:07,173 --> 00:10:09,509 Her whole world revolved around them. 222 00:10:09,542 --> 00:10:13,446 - And then it was that February morning in 2014, 223 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:14,948 about 11:00 AM. 224 00:10:14,981 --> 00:10:18,752 It was the handyman who called 911. 225 00:10:18,785 --> 00:10:21,187 And here the story seemed to end, 226 00:10:21,221 --> 00:10:23,123 the adventures of Samira Frasch, 227 00:10:23,156 --> 00:10:25,558 dead at just 38, 228 00:10:25,592 --> 00:10:29,529 though really, in a way, the story had just begun. 229 00:10:32,966 --> 00:10:34,734 - What happened to Samira? 230 00:10:34,768 --> 00:10:37,070 The tale told by a sandal-- 231 00:10:37,103 --> 00:10:40,073 - Tucked right underneath the hose on the edge. 232 00:10:46,179 --> 00:10:51,685 ** 233 00:10:52,552 --> 00:10:55,188 - When handyman, Gerald Gardner, called 911 234 00:10:55,221 --> 00:10:58,224 that chilly morning in February 2014... 235 00:11:02,562 --> 00:11:06,800 ...he told the operator he knew Samara Frasch had children, 236 00:11:06,833 --> 00:11:10,136 two little girls, but he couldn't find them. 237 00:11:17,310 --> 00:11:19,979 - Investigator Jason Newland searched for clues 238 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,716 at the place Samira Frasch's all-too-short life 239 00:11:22,749 --> 00:11:24,484 came to its sudden end. 240 00:11:24,517 --> 00:11:25,585 - I studied the crime scene a lot 241 00:11:25,618 --> 00:11:29,589 looking just for, does anything stand out? 242 00:11:29,622 --> 00:11:31,791 - And right away, what stood out 243 00:11:31,825 --> 00:11:33,293 was evidence of one of 244 00:11:33,326 --> 00:11:36,296 those bizarre Rube Goldberg tripping accidents 245 00:11:36,329 --> 00:11:38,798 people tend to fall prey to. 246 00:11:38,832 --> 00:11:40,700 This is police video. 247 00:11:40,734 --> 00:11:43,003 The pool deck was kind of a mess. 248 00:11:43,103 --> 00:11:45,005 And look at this. 249 00:11:45,105 --> 00:11:48,508 One of Samira's sandals was caught under a garden hose 250 00:11:48,541 --> 00:11:51,811 that ran across the deck and into the pool. 251 00:11:51,845 --> 00:11:55,382 - Tucked right underneath the hose on the edge, 252 00:11:55,415 --> 00:11:57,984 and then the other one was just down in the bottom of the pool. 253 00:11:58,018 --> 00:11:59,719 - And Detective Tony Giraldi discovered 254 00:11:59,753 --> 00:12:02,389 that Samira's little indoor dog, Bella, 255 00:12:02,422 --> 00:12:06,393 had escaped to the pool deck, so... 256 00:12:06,426 --> 00:12:09,129 - They have this small dog that is-- 257 00:12:09,162 --> 00:12:12,065 apparently runs around if it gets out. 258 00:12:12,098 --> 00:12:13,833 - Oh, I figured she fell. 259 00:12:13,867 --> 00:12:17,604 That stupid dog they had got out running around the pool. 260 00:12:17,637 --> 00:12:19,873 - When he heard about Samira's death, 261 00:12:19,906 --> 00:12:22,509 her father-in-law Alvin Frasch said the same thing 262 00:12:22,542 --> 00:12:25,345 very nearly happened to him during a visit. 263 00:12:25,378 --> 00:12:27,547 - I couldn't catch him out there around the pool. 264 00:12:27,580 --> 00:12:30,850 And I about stumbled on that hose trying to catch him. 265 00:12:30,884 --> 00:12:32,786 - So it seemed obvious. 266 00:12:32,819 --> 00:12:35,121 Samira must have been chasing her little dog, 267 00:12:35,155 --> 00:12:37,624 tripped on the hose, maybe hit her head, 268 00:12:37,657 --> 00:12:40,293 and wound up in the pool, and, tragically, 269 00:12:40,326 --> 00:12:44,264 the one thing Samira couldn't do was swim. 270 00:12:44,297 --> 00:12:46,433 But one look at the web told the detectives 271 00:12:46,466 --> 00:12:50,670 this was otherwise a very versatile woman. 272 00:12:50,704 --> 00:12:54,974 - You can definitely Google search her, YouTube. 273 00:12:55,008 --> 00:12:56,576 - And there she was, 274 00:12:56,609 --> 00:13:01,348 about a half dozen music videos under the name Samira DS, 275 00:13:01,381 --> 00:13:03,616 many made in her native Madagascar. 276 00:13:03,650 --> 00:13:06,453 They did not go viral. 277 00:13:06,486 --> 00:13:08,221 But once she became a mother, 278 00:13:08,254 --> 00:13:11,725 Samira's ambitions shifted. 279 00:13:11,758 --> 00:13:15,261 Now, she wanted her daughter-- eventually, daughters-- 280 00:13:15,295 --> 00:13:17,530 to be the center of attention. 281 00:13:17,564 --> 00:13:19,199 - I said, but you're so young, so beautiful. 282 00:13:19,232 --> 00:13:22,068 She said, let's be serious here. 283 00:13:22,068 --> 00:13:23,636 Let's focus on the kids. 284 00:13:23,670 --> 00:13:26,272 - The kids and the big idea. 285 00:13:26,306 --> 00:13:28,608 And that's when she first met Joel Silver. 286 00:13:28,641 --> 00:13:30,343 He's a producer. 287 00:13:30,377 --> 00:13:32,579 In 2012, she called him out of the blue 288 00:13:32,612 --> 00:13:34,080 and set up a meeting. 289 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,582 - Other mothers say, my baby is beautiful. 290 00:13:35,615 --> 00:13:37,650 They should be on TV, on commercials, on this. 291 00:13:37,684 --> 00:13:40,453 But Samira acted on this. 292 00:13:40,487 --> 00:13:41,955 - Because, said Silver, 293 00:13:41,988 --> 00:13:44,657 Samira instinctively seemed to understand 294 00:13:44,691 --> 00:13:46,926 the power of social media. 295 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,328 - By that time we were starting to see 296 00:13:48,361 --> 00:13:50,196 those kind of things on YouTube and Facebook. 297 00:13:50,230 --> 00:13:51,798 - True. - Famous people, you know, 298 00:13:51,831 --> 00:13:53,400 famous dogs on Facebook 299 00:13:53,433 --> 00:13:55,935 that have thousands and millions of followers. 300 00:13:55,969 --> 00:13:57,103 - Why not a famous baby? 301 00:13:57,103 --> 00:13:59,272 - Why not a famous baby was her idea. 302 00:13:59,305 --> 00:14:01,775 We just said let's go, so we can see how it works. 303 00:14:01,808 --> 00:14:04,110 - You were in. - I was in. 304 00:14:04,144 --> 00:14:05,812 - The idea was to create and market 305 00:14:05,845 --> 00:14:07,213 a children's clothing line 306 00:14:07,247 --> 00:14:09,649 based on the outfits she designed for Hyrah. 307 00:14:09,683 --> 00:14:13,820 She would sell them from a website called hyrah.com. 308 00:14:13,853 --> 00:14:17,824 The YouTube videos would push potential customers to her site. 309 00:14:17,857 --> 00:14:22,062 If the Kardashians could do it, why not her? 310 00:14:22,062 --> 00:14:24,431 - She said, I want to make videos of my baby, 311 00:14:24,464 --> 00:14:26,566 and I want to travel and make sure everybody can see 312 00:14:26,599 --> 00:14:28,234 how beautiful my baby is. 313 00:14:28,268 --> 00:14:30,337 - It seemed to be a perfect formula, 314 00:14:30,370 --> 00:14:32,605 that is using the online clothing business 315 00:14:32,639 --> 00:14:33,840 based on little Hyrah, 316 00:14:33,873 --> 00:14:37,077 so she could be close to her baby, and Adam, 317 00:14:37,077 --> 00:14:41,214 and see the country, and have fun-- enviable. 318 00:14:41,247 --> 00:14:43,149 - When I saw her, 319 00:14:43,183 --> 00:14:45,385 and her husband, and that little girl, 320 00:14:45,418 --> 00:14:46,786 I looked at them and I said, 321 00:14:46,820 --> 00:14:49,122 "This is what I want one day." 322 00:14:49,155 --> 00:14:52,459 - They took their road show all over the country: 323 00:14:52,492 --> 00:14:56,529 Vegas, Disney World, 324 00:14:56,563 --> 00:14:58,598 Hollywood, 325 00:14:58,631 --> 00:15:01,034 the Kentucky Derby. - Look at that. 326 00:15:01,034 --> 00:15:04,037 - --Washington D.C., 327 00:15:04,037 --> 00:15:06,072 New York's Times Square, 328 00:15:06,106 --> 00:15:08,575 and everybody admired the baby. 329 00:15:08,608 --> 00:15:12,145 - Oh, precious. - Oh, she's gorgeous. 330 00:15:12,178 --> 00:15:14,047 - Even another TV celebrity, 331 00:15:14,047 --> 00:15:16,149 the late Big Ang from "Mob Wives." 332 00:15:16,182 --> 00:15:18,885 - Hyrah, you are so gorgeous. 333 00:15:18,918 --> 00:15:21,554 - I don't know if she just thought, 334 00:15:21,588 --> 00:15:23,323 this is how you do it in America. 335 00:15:23,356 --> 00:15:26,092 - There's some evidence to suggest it is, 336 00:15:26,126 --> 00:15:28,094 or something like that. - Yes. 337 00:15:28,128 --> 00:15:30,130 So right, when you come to the U.S., 338 00:15:30,163 --> 00:15:31,398 this is what she thought, I guess, 339 00:15:31,431 --> 00:15:34,901 was the best way to showcase Hyrah. 340 00:15:34,934 --> 00:15:36,336 - Hi. Look at her. 341 00:15:36,369 --> 00:15:39,439 - In the background, Adam, always a bit off camera, 342 00:15:39,472 --> 00:15:41,741 quietly hovered, proud, 343 00:15:41,775 --> 00:15:44,644 but worried a little, protective. 344 00:15:44,678 --> 00:15:47,113 Of course, he financed the productions, 345 00:15:47,147 --> 00:15:48,982 paid for her music videos, too. 346 00:15:49,082 --> 00:15:52,352 - Hyrah was just always the perfect TV star. 347 00:15:52,385 --> 00:15:55,221 She was always in a great mood, 348 00:15:55,255 --> 00:15:57,290 always waving, smiling. 349 00:15:57,323 --> 00:15:59,125 Any time you see any of these videos, 350 00:15:59,159 --> 00:16:01,394 this baby was always happy. 351 00:16:01,428 --> 00:16:04,364 - And Samira, over the top or not, 352 00:16:04,397 --> 00:16:09,803 she was somehow genuine, said Silver. 353 00:16:09,836 --> 00:16:15,475 And he rolled the camera as she, no fuss, no furs, no makeup, 354 00:16:15,508 --> 00:16:18,111 doted on her baby girl. 355 00:16:18,144 --> 00:16:21,581 This, thought Joel Silver, was true love. 356 00:16:21,614 --> 00:16:22,816 - That's so Hyrah. Come in. 357 00:16:22,849 --> 00:16:24,417 - And then there was the party, 358 00:16:24,451 --> 00:16:26,186 Hyrah's first birthday party 359 00:16:26,219 --> 00:16:29,155 and Samira's biggest promotion on social media. 360 00:16:29,189 --> 00:16:31,358 She pulled out all the stops. 361 00:16:31,391 --> 00:16:34,461 Tallahassee had never seen anything like this. 362 00:16:34,494 --> 00:16:36,830 - With how much Samira loved this baby, 363 00:16:36,863 --> 00:16:41,067 she was determined to make it the party of all parties. 364 00:16:41,067 --> 00:16:44,537 This was like a LA, you know Hollywood birthday 365 00:16:44,571 --> 00:16:46,139 of a celebrity baby. 366 00:16:46,172 --> 00:16:48,875 - Samira played host and narrator. 367 00:16:48,908 --> 00:16:53,279 - Okay, today is Hyrah's one year's birthday. Watch. 368 00:16:53,313 --> 00:16:57,484 - Men dressed as Egyptian guards, 369 00:16:57,517 --> 00:17:00,487 a sword wielding belly dancer, 370 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,222 and Samira dripping gold 371 00:17:02,255 --> 00:17:06,593 and wearing a gown fit for a queen of the Nile. 372 00:17:06,626 --> 00:17:07,894 Adam Frasch, her husband, 373 00:17:07,927 --> 00:17:10,597 went for something a little more Elvis. 374 00:17:10,630 --> 00:17:14,034 And there at the center of it all, their daughter Hyrah, 375 00:17:14,034 --> 00:17:18,405 dressed in white feathers and fur. 376 00:17:18,438 --> 00:17:20,407 As they sang happy birthday, 377 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,876 Samira and Adam were beaming, 378 00:17:22,909 --> 00:17:26,179 not a hint in the world that in a little more than a year, 379 00:17:26,212 --> 00:17:27,614 she'd be gone, 380 00:17:27,647 --> 00:17:31,851 her babies just 2 and 10 months, without a mother. 381 00:17:31,885 --> 00:17:33,386 Detectives had watched the videos 382 00:17:33,420 --> 00:17:35,789 in something like amazement. 383 00:17:35,822 --> 00:17:38,825 Then they heard from the coroner, 384 00:17:38,858 --> 00:17:42,462 and remember that Rube Goldberg tripping thing? 385 00:17:42,495 --> 00:17:45,098 maybe not an accident after all. 386 00:17:47,734 --> 00:17:50,303 - What the medical examiner had to say... 387 00:17:50,337 --> 00:17:53,773 - The ME's physical finding was foul play. 388 00:17:59,212 --> 00:18:05,018 ** 389 00:18:05,919 --> 00:18:08,254 - There was one little thing here in the pool 390 00:18:08,288 --> 00:18:10,623 where Samira Frasch met her end. 391 00:18:10,657 --> 00:18:13,660 It was something about the sandal there in the water, 392 00:18:13,693 --> 00:18:15,862 the one trapped under a garden hose. 393 00:18:15,895 --> 00:18:18,365 It bothered investigator Jason Newland. 394 00:18:18,398 --> 00:18:21,201 - These sandals that had a strap around the heel, 395 00:18:21,234 --> 00:18:24,204 a lot of the females in the office would say 396 00:18:24,237 --> 00:18:26,940 that doesn't just fall off your foot like that. 397 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,808 - That sandal looked, 398 00:18:28,842 --> 00:18:31,244 well, almost looked like somebody had created 399 00:18:31,277 --> 00:18:34,814 a little stage setting, like it was too perfect, 400 00:18:34,848 --> 00:18:37,117 too obvious to be true. 401 00:18:37,150 --> 00:18:39,285 And then Detective Tony Giraldi got a call 402 00:18:39,319 --> 00:18:41,221 from the medical examiner. 403 00:18:41,254 --> 00:18:44,357 Oh, my, what did the ME discover? 404 00:18:44,391 --> 00:18:48,328 - The cause of death was blunt force trauma to the head, 405 00:18:48,361 --> 00:18:50,063 coupled with drowning. 406 00:18:50,063 --> 00:18:52,766 - In such a way that it could have happened accidentally, 407 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:56,136 or did it seem to the ME as if it was homicide? 408 00:18:56,169 --> 00:18:58,972 - With the ME's physical findings 409 00:18:59,072 --> 00:19:01,441 that there was foul play and we were-- 410 00:19:01,474 --> 00:19:05,178 We were looking for somebody that caused this death. 411 00:19:05,211 --> 00:19:07,647 - Here's what the medical examiner said. 412 00:19:07,681 --> 00:19:10,550 One side of Samira's skull was fractured, 413 00:19:10,583 --> 00:19:12,919 which certainly could have meant she hit her head 414 00:19:13,019 --> 00:19:14,187 on the way into the pool. 415 00:19:14,220 --> 00:19:18,458 But the other side of her head was damaged, too. 416 00:19:18,491 --> 00:19:22,028 A simple slip and fall couldn't account for that. 417 00:19:22,028 --> 00:19:23,897 But remember, the ME saw evidence 418 00:19:23,930 --> 00:19:27,200 of both blunt force trauma and drowning, 419 00:19:27,233 --> 00:19:30,503 which meant she was still alive when she hit the water. 420 00:19:30,537 --> 00:19:33,106 So was it murder? 421 00:19:33,139 --> 00:19:35,608 It looked like, yes. 422 00:19:35,642 --> 00:19:37,544 The detectives went to work. 423 00:19:37,577 --> 00:19:40,180 - We collect as much physical evidence as we could, 424 00:19:40,213 --> 00:19:43,283 and we interviewed everybody that was-- 425 00:19:43,316 --> 00:19:46,753 saw Samira last or that was close to her. 426 00:19:46,786 --> 00:19:49,556 - Like the man who found her in the pool, 427 00:19:49,589 --> 00:19:52,692 the handyman, Gerald Gardner. 428 00:19:52,726 --> 00:19:55,195 - He was a somebody we needed to talk to 429 00:19:55,228 --> 00:19:57,063 and rule out as a suspect. 430 00:19:57,063 --> 00:19:58,398 - Police thought there was something odd 431 00:19:58,431 --> 00:19:59,866 about Mr. Gardner, 432 00:19:59,899 --> 00:20:02,769 or at least what he said when he called 911. 433 00:20:02,802 --> 00:20:05,238 The operator asked him to get into the pool 434 00:20:05,271 --> 00:20:07,207 and pull Samira out. 435 00:20:25,992 --> 00:20:29,295 - Gerald Gardner knew Samira had worked for her for years. 436 00:20:29,329 --> 00:20:32,999 So why did he refuse the operator's request? 437 00:20:33,033 --> 00:20:34,134 - When we talk to him later, 438 00:20:34,167 --> 00:20:35,669 he's like, I wasn't going to touch her. 439 00:20:35,702 --> 00:20:37,537 I didn't want my DNA on her. 440 00:20:37,570 --> 00:20:39,706 I knew I'm going to be the first suspect. 441 00:20:39,739 --> 00:20:41,074 I found her. 442 00:20:41,107 --> 00:20:44,344 And he's like, I do not want to be involved in this. 443 00:20:44,377 --> 00:20:45,445 - He was right. 444 00:20:45,478 --> 00:20:48,248 Police would look at him and his story closely, 445 00:20:48,281 --> 00:20:51,484 as well as someone else who was there with him that day, 446 00:20:51,518 --> 00:20:54,521 his 14-year-old son, Gerald Jr. 447 00:20:54,554 --> 00:20:56,656 At police headquarters, the boy was questioned 448 00:20:56,690 --> 00:20:58,925 while his mother sat with the detectives. 449 00:20:58,958 --> 00:21:01,961 We've blurred his face to protect his privacy. 450 00:21:17,444 --> 00:21:18,511 - During a break in the interview, 451 00:21:18,545 --> 00:21:20,480 the boy started to cry, 452 00:21:20,513 --> 00:21:22,482 his mother telling him to calm down. 453 00:21:22,515 --> 00:21:25,118 Police had to do their job. 454 00:21:34,761 --> 00:21:37,664 - As for his father, Gerald Gardner, 455 00:21:37,697 --> 00:21:41,868 some people were saying did more than just work for Samira. 456 00:21:41,901 --> 00:21:43,136 - We interviewed a couple of people 457 00:21:43,169 --> 00:21:44,270 about her relationship with them, 458 00:21:44,304 --> 00:21:46,373 and some people suspected it. 459 00:21:46,406 --> 00:21:49,943 Gerald swears, up and down, he has absolutely not, never. 460 00:21:49,976 --> 00:21:52,812 - Were they friends? - They were friends. 461 00:21:52,846 --> 00:21:54,848 He would do anything she needed. 462 00:21:54,881 --> 00:21:58,318 - Were father and son telling them everything? 463 00:21:58,351 --> 00:22:01,488 Maybe they'd find out from the security tapes. 464 00:22:01,521 --> 00:22:03,957 The Frasch's place was in a gated community. 465 00:22:04,057 --> 00:22:06,526 So there was arrival and departure video. 466 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:09,429 That's how the detectives confirmed that 467 00:22:09,462 --> 00:22:13,166 the handyman and his son arrived at 10:51 AM, 468 00:22:13,199 --> 00:22:16,302 10 minutes before phoning 911. 469 00:22:16,336 --> 00:22:19,673 So could the Gardners have done something terrible 470 00:22:19,706 --> 00:22:22,075 and so short of time and then sounded 471 00:22:22,108 --> 00:22:25,578 the way Gardner Sr. did on that 911 call? 472 00:22:25,612 --> 00:22:27,647 - He made some statements though on the 911 call 473 00:22:27,681 --> 00:22:30,350 that I believe sound very credible and genuine. 474 00:22:30,383 --> 00:22:32,085 And he was very adamant that he was worried 475 00:22:32,118 --> 00:22:34,821 about the welfare of the children as well. 476 00:22:34,854 --> 00:22:37,757 - Gerald Gardener and son, they decided, 477 00:22:37,791 --> 00:22:40,360 did not kill Samira. 478 00:22:40,393 --> 00:22:42,629 So who did? 479 00:22:42,662 --> 00:22:45,098 The one person they wanted to ask, of course, 480 00:22:45,098 --> 00:22:49,235 was Adam Frasch, except they couldn't find him. 481 00:22:49,269 --> 00:22:51,104 Adam and the two little girls were 482 00:22:51,137 --> 00:22:53,640 apparently away somewhere. 483 00:22:53,673 --> 00:22:56,176 There was a friend who might know where, 484 00:22:56,209 --> 00:23:00,480 a friend who the detective discovered did not like 485 00:23:00,513 --> 00:23:03,516 the former French model now lying cold and dead 486 00:23:03,550 --> 00:23:04,751 in the morgue, 487 00:23:04,784 --> 00:23:08,388 not one tiny bit. 488 00:23:08,421 --> 00:23:11,157 - And this friend doesn't care who knows it, 489 00:23:11,191 --> 00:23:12,792 including the police. 490 00:23:12,826 --> 00:23:15,228 His stunning admission is about to land him 491 00:23:15,261 --> 00:23:17,897 at the top of the suspect list. 492 00:23:17,931 --> 00:23:19,265 Coming up... 493 00:23:24,471 --> 00:23:27,107 - When "Dateline Secrets Uncovered" continues. 494 00:23:35,749 --> 00:23:38,318 Welcome back to "Dateline Secrets Uncovered." 495 00:23:38,351 --> 00:23:39,819 I'm Kate Snow. 496 00:23:39,853 --> 00:23:42,455 Samira Frasch was found lying face up 497 00:23:42,489 --> 00:23:44,290 in her backyard pool. 498 00:23:44,324 --> 00:23:46,459 An autopsy revealed the cause of death 499 00:23:46,493 --> 00:23:49,929 was blunt force trauma combined with drowning. 500 00:23:49,963 --> 00:23:52,632 Now, investigators were hunting for anyone 501 00:23:52,665 --> 00:23:54,701 who might have wanted her dead. 502 00:23:54,734 --> 00:23:57,103 One person would make no secret 503 00:23:57,103 --> 00:23:59,339 of his contempt for Samira. 504 00:23:59,372 --> 00:24:01,441 But detectives needed to find out 505 00:24:01,474 --> 00:24:03,476 if that made him a killer. 506 00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:06,780 Back to Keith Morrison with At the Bottom of the Pool. 507 00:24:09,382 --> 00:24:12,786 - Around the big Frasch house and across his long driveway, 508 00:24:12,819 --> 00:24:15,522 yellow crime scene tape was draped. 509 00:24:15,555 --> 00:24:18,258 An Amber Alert went out for their two small children, 510 00:24:18,291 --> 00:24:20,060 Hyrah and Skynaah. 511 00:24:20,093 --> 00:24:22,696 And it was during that chaotic day 512 00:24:22,729 --> 00:24:25,565 that one of Adam's closest friends in Tallahassee, 513 00:24:25,598 --> 00:24:29,102 a man named Kendall Lindsey, got a phone call. 514 00:24:29,135 --> 00:24:31,538 - A friend of mine called me and told me that 515 00:24:31,571 --> 00:24:33,940 his exact words for Samira was on the other side. 516 00:24:33,973 --> 00:24:35,542 - Sam was on the other side of what? 517 00:24:35,575 --> 00:24:37,677 - That's what I said. What do you mean? 518 00:24:37,711 --> 00:24:40,080 I said she's dead? He said, yeah, man. 519 00:24:40,113 --> 00:24:42,515 Say they found at the bottom of the pool. 520 00:24:42,549 --> 00:24:44,651 And I said, no, you got to be kidding. 521 00:24:44,684 --> 00:24:48,088 Kendall confirmed it through a friend on the police force. 522 00:24:48,088 --> 00:24:51,091 And then he steeled himself for the call he knew 523 00:24:51,124 --> 00:24:52,792 he had to make. 524 00:24:52,826 --> 00:24:55,862 Kendall always called Adam, Doc. 525 00:24:55,895 --> 00:24:58,698 I immediately called Doc, and he picked up. 526 00:24:58,732 --> 00:25:00,800 And I told him what I heard. 527 00:25:00,834 --> 00:25:03,403 And I told him, yeah, she was found dead 528 00:25:03,436 --> 00:25:04,604 in the pool. 529 00:25:04,637 --> 00:25:06,639 And he took it quiet. 530 00:25:06,673 --> 00:25:09,242 And I imagine, he was crying, because his daughter said, 531 00:25:09,275 --> 00:25:10,744 daddy, why are you crying? 532 00:25:10,777 --> 00:25:11,611 - In the background, you heard this? 533 00:25:11,644 --> 00:25:12,712 - I heard it. 534 00:25:12,746 --> 00:25:14,447 He must had her daughter in his arms or something. 535 00:25:14,481 --> 00:25:17,117 - Adam told Kendall he was at their beach house 536 00:25:17,150 --> 00:25:20,053 in Panama City, nearly three hours away. 537 00:25:20,086 --> 00:25:22,055 He told them he took the kids for the weekend, 538 00:25:22,055 --> 00:25:24,057 so Samira could rest. 539 00:25:24,057 --> 00:25:27,293 - And I told him, I said, just bring the kids here, 540 00:25:27,327 --> 00:25:28,261 just bring them here. 541 00:25:28,294 --> 00:25:30,363 You need to come find out what's going on. 542 00:25:30,397 --> 00:25:31,831 And he said he was on the way. 543 00:25:31,865 --> 00:25:33,800 - Soon after he shared the news with Adam 544 00:25:33,833 --> 00:25:37,070 about his wife, Kendall got another phone call, 545 00:25:37,103 --> 00:25:39,239 his police contact. 546 00:25:39,272 --> 00:25:41,141 He needed some help. 547 00:25:41,174 --> 00:25:43,443 - My police friend asked me, do I know where he was. 548 00:25:43,476 --> 00:25:44,310 And I said, yeah. 549 00:25:44,344 --> 00:25:45,311 And he said, well, where was he? 550 00:25:45,345 --> 00:25:46,713 I said, he was in Panama City's beach house 551 00:25:46,746 --> 00:25:49,082 in Panama City, but he's on the way here. 552 00:25:49,082 --> 00:25:51,251 - With Adam headed back to Tallahassee, 553 00:25:51,284 --> 00:25:54,187 the officer asked Kendall for another favor. 554 00:25:54,220 --> 00:25:55,588 He said, well, I got a detective, 555 00:25:55,622 --> 00:25:56,923 but they want to ask you some question. 556 00:25:56,956 --> 00:25:58,291 Are you at home? I said, I'm at home. 557 00:25:58,324 --> 00:25:59,392 He can come on out. 558 00:25:59,426 --> 00:26:01,628 Within 30 minutes, I had a detective at my door, 559 00:26:01,661 --> 00:26:03,096 asking me questions. 560 00:26:03,129 --> 00:26:06,232 - Kendall told the detectives his relationship with Adam 561 00:26:06,266 --> 00:26:08,268 bordered on brotherhood. 562 00:26:08,301 --> 00:26:11,204 Kendall is a car dealer, and Adam had a thing 563 00:26:11,237 --> 00:26:13,039 for collecting cars. 564 00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:15,675 - Maserati, Ferraris, 565 00:26:15,709 --> 00:26:18,912 some very nice Mustangs, 566 00:26:18,945 --> 00:26:20,680 top of the line Mercedes, 567 00:26:20,714 --> 00:26:22,315 Tudor Coupes, convertibles, 568 00:26:22,349 --> 00:26:23,483 you name it. 569 00:26:23,516 --> 00:26:26,119 - In fact, Adam owned 80 cars, 570 00:26:26,152 --> 00:26:28,455 at least maybe 100. 571 00:26:28,488 --> 00:26:30,924 So at first, it was a business relationship. 572 00:26:30,957 --> 00:26:32,759 But soon, they were fast friends. 573 00:26:32,792 --> 00:26:35,061 They went to games together, shot pool, 574 00:26:35,061 --> 00:26:38,431 traveled to Miami, Orlando, Vegas. 575 00:26:38,465 --> 00:26:40,066 They especially like Vegas. 576 00:26:40,066 --> 00:26:41,935 - Go to casinos and stuff like that, 577 00:26:41,968 --> 00:26:43,336 just traveled a lot. 578 00:26:43,370 --> 00:26:46,139 - At the casinos, Adam played in Texas Hold'em 579 00:26:46,172 --> 00:26:47,741 poker tournaments. 580 00:26:47,774 --> 00:26:49,843 And Kendall kept an eye on him, because Adam liked 581 00:26:49,876 --> 00:26:52,278 carrying big wads of cash 582 00:26:52,312 --> 00:26:55,248 and flaunted his expensive watches and jewelry. 583 00:26:55,281 --> 00:26:58,885 - So did you find yourself becoming his protector, 584 00:26:58,918 --> 00:27:00,553 his-- you watched out for him? 585 00:27:00,587 --> 00:27:04,791 - Like we go to Casino, he'll have jewelry on 586 00:27:04,824 --> 00:27:06,459 and flashing like a superstar. 587 00:27:06,493 --> 00:27:09,029 Like you got all type of guys they're looking at this stuff. 588 00:27:09,062 --> 00:27:10,230 And I talk to him all the time. 589 00:27:10,263 --> 00:27:11,197 But it didn't matter him. 590 00:27:11,231 --> 00:27:12,599 He was just naive to it. 591 00:27:12,632 --> 00:27:14,234 - And then the detectives asked, 592 00:27:14,267 --> 00:27:17,070 how did Kendall feel about Samira. 593 00:27:17,103 --> 00:27:19,105 He said, you like her? No, I didn't like her at all. 594 00:27:19,139 --> 00:27:20,140 - You didn't like her? 595 00:27:20,173 --> 00:27:21,675 And you didn't make any secret of it. 596 00:27:21,708 --> 00:27:23,109 - Right. I told him that. 597 00:27:23,143 --> 00:27:25,345 - Samira didn't like her husband spending 598 00:27:25,378 --> 00:27:27,881 so much time with Kendall, traveling with him, 599 00:27:27,914 --> 00:27:29,649 going to casinos. 600 00:27:29,683 --> 00:27:31,184 Kendall told Adam, 601 00:27:31,217 --> 00:27:34,254 don't let your wife dictate your friendships. 602 00:27:34,287 --> 00:27:35,555 - We continued our friendship, 603 00:27:35,588 --> 00:27:37,323 yeah, under the radar from her. 604 00:27:37,357 --> 00:27:39,592 She realized that I was the one that's encouraging him 605 00:27:39,626 --> 00:27:40,760 to stand up for himself. 606 00:27:40,794 --> 00:27:43,430 But he wouldn't say to her, look, he's my friend, 607 00:27:43,463 --> 00:27:46,833 I'm going to see him whether you like it or not? 608 00:27:46,866 --> 00:27:49,336 - No way, no way. 609 00:27:49,369 --> 00:27:52,939 - Kendall said he tried to tell the detective all that. 610 00:27:52,972 --> 00:27:54,741 But then it dawned on him. 611 00:27:54,774 --> 00:27:58,211 He, Kendall, was a suspect. 612 00:27:58,244 --> 00:28:01,047 - When he started asking me, where was I last night, 613 00:28:01,081 --> 00:28:03,616 that's when I started thinking, wait, do I need a lawyer here? 614 00:28:03,650 --> 00:28:05,618 - Police asked him for his phone 615 00:28:05,652 --> 00:28:07,520 and if he'd go to the Sheriff's Office 616 00:28:07,554 --> 00:28:09,789 to take a DNA test. 617 00:28:09,823 --> 00:28:12,892 Questions continued there for hours. 618 00:28:17,630 --> 00:28:19,165 - Hardly a surprise. 619 00:28:30,043 --> 00:28:31,945 - Kendall told the detective about the time 620 00:28:32,045 --> 00:28:35,115 he stepped between Adam and Samira during an argument, 621 00:28:35,148 --> 00:28:37,484 mostly to protect Adam. 622 00:28:37,517 --> 00:28:39,352 Samira wasn't happy. 623 00:28:45,658 --> 00:28:47,961 - And then there was Kendall's last conversation 624 00:28:48,061 --> 00:28:49,429 with Samira, the night before 625 00:28:49,462 --> 00:28:51,064 she was found murdered. 626 00:28:51,064 --> 00:28:53,900 Kendall said it started over a misunderstanding 627 00:28:53,933 --> 00:28:56,069 and then escalated when Samira decided 628 00:28:56,102 --> 00:28:58,538 he'd stolen some clothes that have been left 629 00:28:58,571 --> 00:29:00,774 in one of Adam's cars. 630 00:29:00,807 --> 00:29:04,044 Heated words, expletives exchanged. 631 00:29:14,487 --> 00:29:16,122 - And then Kendall said something, 632 00:29:16,156 --> 00:29:18,324 said something he maybe shouldn't have said. 633 00:29:28,501 --> 00:29:31,538 - Did he just say that about his best friend's wife 634 00:29:31,571 --> 00:29:33,573 found dead in a pool? 635 00:29:33,606 --> 00:29:36,176 Now, that got the detectives attention. 636 00:29:36,209 --> 00:29:38,411 Time they decided to take a hard look 637 00:29:38,445 --> 00:29:40,747 at this guy's alibi. 638 00:29:40,780 --> 00:29:44,351 Did he have one? 639 00:29:44,384 --> 00:29:45,819 - Coming up... 640 00:29:45,852 --> 00:29:48,054 - A lot of marble, gold, 641 00:29:48,088 --> 00:29:51,191 a lot of exotic animals that were stuffed. 642 00:29:51,224 --> 00:29:53,259 - Inside the jaw-dropping world 643 00:29:53,293 --> 00:29:55,829 of Adam and Samira Frasch. 644 00:29:55,862 --> 00:29:59,666 Did all that wealth provide a motive for murder? 645 00:29:59,699 --> 00:30:02,469 When "Dateline, Secrets Uncovered" continues. 646 00:30:11,344 --> 00:30:13,380 - Adam Frasch's good friend, Kendall Lindsey, 647 00:30:13,413 --> 00:30:15,882 had just made an astonishing statement to detectives 648 00:30:15,915 --> 00:30:19,252 investigating the death of the doctor's wife, Samira. 649 00:30:19,285 --> 00:30:21,755 Kendall wasn't fond of Samira. 650 00:30:21,788 --> 00:30:24,557 In fact, the two had argued vehemently 651 00:30:24,591 --> 00:30:26,326 the night before she died. 652 00:30:36,536 --> 00:30:41,074 - What a thing to say, even if it was a joke. 653 00:30:41,107 --> 00:30:44,077 So next question, what, asked the detectives, 654 00:30:44,110 --> 00:30:46,746 was Kendall up to the night before 655 00:30:46,780 --> 00:30:49,215 and the morning Samira was found. 656 00:31:06,066 --> 00:31:09,202 - After breakfast, said Kendall, his wife drove him to work. 657 00:31:09,235 --> 00:31:10,770 That was 11:20. 658 00:31:10,804 --> 00:31:13,606 - Samira was found at 11:00. 659 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,209 So Kendall had an alibi. 660 00:31:16,242 --> 00:31:19,112 Detectives regrouped and went back 661 00:31:19,145 --> 00:31:21,114 to the Frasch house. 662 00:31:21,147 --> 00:31:23,550 Let it talk to them 663 00:31:23,583 --> 00:31:26,086 and talk it did. 664 00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:28,154 - Wow. 665 00:31:28,188 --> 00:31:31,091 It was different-- 666 00:31:31,091 --> 00:31:33,760 different for most people's taste. 667 00:31:33,793 --> 00:31:35,662 - Detective Tony Giraldi. 668 00:31:35,695 --> 00:31:37,797 - A lot of marble, a lot of gold, 669 00:31:37,831 --> 00:31:41,134 a lot of exotic animals that were stuffed-- 670 00:31:41,167 --> 00:31:41,901 - Oh, wow. 671 00:31:41,935 --> 00:31:44,471 - Which was kind of new to us 672 00:31:44,504 --> 00:31:47,107 for executing a search warrant. 673 00:31:47,107 --> 00:31:50,210 - But it wasn't just the over-the-top house. 674 00:31:50,243 --> 00:31:52,412 Everything that detectives learned about the Frasch's 675 00:31:52,445 --> 00:31:55,215 practically screamed money. 676 00:31:55,248 --> 00:31:58,151 Watches, jewelry, clothes, guns, 677 00:31:58,184 --> 00:32:01,354 motorcycles, a fleet of cars. 678 00:32:01,388 --> 00:32:05,125 - Mercedes, BMWs, Hummers, 679 00:32:05,158 --> 00:32:07,694 Corvettes, even a Ferrari. 680 00:32:07,727 --> 00:32:08,628 - Boats? 681 00:32:08,661 --> 00:32:12,399 - He did have a boat that we discovered. 682 00:32:12,432 --> 00:32:15,201 - The investigators asked Kendall Lindsey. 683 00:32:15,235 --> 00:32:17,904 And he told them as he did us 684 00:32:17,937 --> 00:32:20,473 that Adam Frasch would often buy a car 685 00:32:20,507 --> 00:32:22,542 when the two men were on the road. 686 00:32:22,575 --> 00:32:24,544 Then he'd leave it behind. 687 00:32:24,577 --> 00:32:25,945 So he could go almost anywhere 688 00:32:25,979 --> 00:32:27,881 and there would be a car there that he owned? 689 00:32:27,914 --> 00:32:29,315 - That's right. - They'd sit there. 690 00:32:29,349 --> 00:32:31,785 - They'd sit there. He's all about collecting. 691 00:32:31,818 --> 00:32:34,954 I-I categorize Doc as, like, a hoarder in a way. 692 00:32:34,988 --> 00:32:36,222 - A hoarder? - Yeah. 693 00:32:36,256 --> 00:32:37,390 I know it's a strong word. 694 00:32:37,424 --> 00:32:40,260 But in a way, from what I witnessed, 695 00:32:40,293 --> 00:32:42,729 Doc could never get enough of buying things, 696 00:32:42,762 --> 00:32:46,166 not just cars, a lot of nice things. 697 00:32:46,199 --> 00:32:48,702 - So maybe buying things met some sort of 698 00:32:48,735 --> 00:32:51,104 psychological need. 699 00:32:51,104 --> 00:32:52,672 - We get in my office and look for a car 700 00:32:52,706 --> 00:32:55,108 for a couple hours on the internet. 701 00:32:55,108 --> 00:32:57,977 It could be 11:00, 1:00 in the morning. 702 00:32:58,011 --> 00:33:02,148 And he sees it, if he's in Miami, Florida 703 00:33:02,182 --> 00:33:04,351 or Nevada, we're on a plane, 704 00:33:04,384 --> 00:33:05,952 or we are in the car, we're driving down 705 00:33:06,052 --> 00:33:08,121 that night to be there. 706 00:33:08,154 --> 00:33:09,456 - To buy it. - To buy. 707 00:33:09,489 --> 00:33:11,925 And then as soon as he buy that car, 708 00:33:11,958 --> 00:33:13,059 that rush is over. 709 00:33:13,059 --> 00:33:15,862 It's like, "Okay, find me another car." 710 00:33:15,895 --> 00:33:17,764 - The doctor liked to pay for these things. 711 00:33:17,797 --> 00:33:20,967 In fact, most things in cash 712 00:33:21,067 --> 00:33:24,471 like the time he took Samira and Jackie out to dinner. 713 00:33:24,504 --> 00:33:26,106 - I just-- I noticed he had money 714 00:33:26,139 --> 00:33:30,410 because when he paid the bill, he had that big stack of $100. 715 00:33:30,443 --> 00:33:32,879 I was like, hmm. You know? 716 00:33:32,912 --> 00:33:35,348 - And investigators quickly realized that 717 00:33:35,382 --> 00:33:37,817 Samira seemed to share Adam's penchant 718 00:33:37,851 --> 00:33:41,421 for buying things, expensive things. 719 00:33:41,454 --> 00:33:44,991 - She ordered $1,500 pacifiers for the children, 720 00:33:45,091 --> 00:33:48,428 the chandeliers, the statues. 721 00:33:48,461 --> 00:33:50,830 I don't know that there's anything they wouldn't buy. 722 00:33:50,864 --> 00:33:54,267 - So they figured, maybe money was the glue 723 00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:57,203 in the Frasch marriage, and sometimes, 724 00:33:57,237 --> 00:34:00,040 during rough patches, a peace offering. 725 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,343 - In text messages, he would send a picture of $100 bills 726 00:34:03,376 --> 00:34:06,112 laid out on a bed and shaped of I love you. 727 00:34:06,146 --> 00:34:08,448 - And that was the effective way, I gather? 728 00:34:08,481 --> 00:34:10,650 - It worked. 729 00:34:10,684 --> 00:34:12,819 - Dr. Frasch had seen was only too happy 730 00:34:12,852 --> 00:34:14,921 to spend lavishly so that poor girl 731 00:34:14,954 --> 00:34:18,058 from Madagascar could have her American dream. 732 00:34:18,091 --> 00:34:19,826 Apparently, he could afford it. 733 00:34:19,859 --> 00:34:22,195 - Was doing very well. - How well was he doing? 734 00:34:22,228 --> 00:34:26,533 - Maybe one of the highest paid podiatrists in the state 735 00:34:26,566 --> 00:34:31,338 or arguably the country. - It was true. 736 00:34:31,371 --> 00:34:32,972 At the time, Dr. Frasch was one of 737 00:34:33,073 --> 00:34:35,175 the leading practitioners of a cutting edge 738 00:34:35,208 --> 00:34:37,677 skin graft procedure for diabetics 739 00:34:37,711 --> 00:34:39,846 called dermal graft. 740 00:34:39,879 --> 00:34:42,649 People poured into his clinics in Southern Georgia, 741 00:34:42,682 --> 00:34:44,384 many of them on Medicare. 742 00:34:44,417 --> 00:34:46,853 So in 2012, for example, a couple of years 743 00:34:46,886 --> 00:34:49,723 before Samira died, the doctor received 744 00:34:49,756 --> 00:34:52,726 more than $1,000,000 in Medicare payments. 745 00:34:52,759 --> 00:34:55,161 - Adam, when he worked, he worked. 746 00:34:55,195 --> 00:34:58,431 He'd start at 9:00 and work till whenever he got done. 747 00:34:58,465 --> 00:35:02,068 A lot of times, it was 7:00 before he got done. 748 00:35:02,102 --> 00:35:04,037 - Mind you, said Adam's father, 749 00:35:04,037 --> 00:35:05,872 his son may have come by those stacks of bills 750 00:35:05,905 --> 00:35:10,043 another way, too, at the gaming table. 751 00:35:10,043 --> 00:35:12,946 - He got started in Texas Hold'em poker. 752 00:35:13,046 --> 00:35:17,083 And when he got involved with something like that, 753 00:35:17,117 --> 00:35:20,320 he'd want to go 'til he was the best. 754 00:35:20,353 --> 00:35:22,455 - Didn't hoard his money, though. 755 00:35:22,489 --> 00:35:25,325 Investigators also discovered the doctor was generous, 756 00:35:25,358 --> 00:35:27,160 shared his good fortune with friends, 757 00:35:27,193 --> 00:35:30,130 and family, and patients, too. 758 00:35:30,163 --> 00:35:33,333 The Reverend Larry Johnson was the doctor's patient first 759 00:35:33,366 --> 00:35:34,634 and then his friend. 760 00:35:34,668 --> 00:35:35,769 - If you came through the door, 761 00:35:35,802 --> 00:35:38,905 he was going to treat you regardless, 762 00:35:38,938 --> 00:35:40,407 money or no money. 763 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,410 - If you needed $1,000 and you can show why you needed it, 764 00:35:43,443 --> 00:35:45,178 you got it, with him a stranger. 765 00:35:45,211 --> 00:35:46,179 - Could you just say, 766 00:35:46,212 --> 00:35:47,580 "Give me $1,000 and he give it to you?" 767 00:35:47,614 --> 00:35:49,115 - No, he wasn't an idiot. 768 00:35:49,149 --> 00:35:52,585 It was just that his heart was, like, big. 769 00:35:52,619 --> 00:35:56,322 - So the detectives had questions for the doctor, 770 00:35:56,356 --> 00:35:57,924 many questions. 771 00:35:57,957 --> 00:36:02,295 But first, they had to find him. 772 00:36:02,328 --> 00:36:05,498 - Coming up, the doctor surfaces 773 00:36:05,532 --> 00:36:08,768 but his behavior only raises more questions. 774 00:36:08,802 --> 00:36:09,903 - There was a lot of factors 775 00:36:09,936 --> 00:36:13,773 that made you look at him and go, 776 00:36:13,807 --> 00:36:15,041 "What happened here?" 777 00:36:21,314 --> 00:36:26,720 ** 778 00:36:27,654 --> 00:36:30,290 - Hours after Samira's body was discovered, 779 00:36:30,323 --> 00:36:32,525 investigators tracked down Adam Frasch 780 00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:35,195 at his beach house in Panama City Beach. 781 00:36:35,228 --> 00:36:38,198 Kendall had already told Adam the devastating news 782 00:36:38,231 --> 00:36:41,201 about Samira. And then the cops arrived. 783 00:36:41,234 --> 00:36:42,469 - Looked like he was packing up the vehicle. 784 00:36:42,502 --> 00:36:44,804 He'd already had the kids in the car. 785 00:36:44,838 --> 00:36:47,374 - Heading for home, he told the officers, 786 00:36:47,407 --> 00:36:50,210 instead he was taken to the local Sheriff's office. 787 00:36:50,243 --> 00:36:53,279 Detectives drove from Tallahassee to meet him there 788 00:36:53,313 --> 00:36:56,783 and recorded the conversation on audiotape. 789 00:36:56,816 --> 00:37:00,553 The doctor was a mess. 790 00:37:04,024 --> 00:37:06,326 - But the cops were all business. 791 00:37:06,359 --> 00:37:07,293 What, they asked, 792 00:37:07,327 --> 00:37:09,796 had Adam Frasch been doing the day before? 793 00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:13,400 Errands mostly, he told them, with Samira and the babies. 794 00:37:13,433 --> 00:37:16,870 They were all together, then a pleasant lunch 795 00:37:16,903 --> 00:37:19,172 and an even better evening. 796 00:37:36,723 --> 00:37:39,492 - Then, Adam told them, Samira asked him for a favor. 797 00:37:51,137 --> 00:37:53,740 - So come morning, said Adam, he took the girls 798 00:37:53,773 --> 00:37:55,709 to the beach house. 799 00:38:03,116 --> 00:38:06,052 - The surveillance camera backed up Adam's story. 800 00:38:06,086 --> 00:38:09,122 There's his car leaving Golden Eagle. 801 00:38:09,155 --> 00:38:11,925 But what struck the cops conducting the interview 802 00:38:12,025 --> 00:38:14,728 was how the doctor's emotions seemed... 803 00:38:14,761 --> 00:38:15,895 how to put it? 804 00:38:15,929 --> 00:38:18,732 Disconnected from his tear ducts. 805 00:38:18,765 --> 00:38:21,668 Investigator Jason Newland wasn't in the room that night 806 00:38:21,701 --> 00:38:23,203 but his colleagues were. 807 00:38:23,236 --> 00:38:25,105 - I remember a lieutenant at the sheriff's office 808 00:38:25,138 --> 00:38:28,742 telling Adam you've sat here telling me how sorry you are, 809 00:38:28,775 --> 00:38:31,277 how bad you feel about your wife. 810 00:38:31,311 --> 00:38:33,213 And you've yet to shed a single tear. 811 00:38:33,246 --> 00:38:35,248 - Is that a true tell about whether somebody 812 00:38:35,281 --> 00:38:37,684 is really grief stricken or not? - No. 813 00:38:37,717 --> 00:38:40,120 There was a lot of other factors that made you look at Adam 814 00:38:40,153 --> 00:38:44,090 and go, "What happened here?" 815 00:38:44,124 --> 00:38:47,127 - Other factors, well, there was, 816 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,696 as investigators discovered, a whole different story 817 00:38:49,729 --> 00:38:54,434 about the Frasch's, very different, very tumultuous. 818 00:38:54,467 --> 00:38:56,836 In fact, they were in the middle of a divorce, 819 00:38:56,870 --> 00:39:00,073 which would be divorce number three for Adam. 820 00:39:00,106 --> 00:39:02,842 So yes, they were skeptical about Adam's story. 821 00:39:02,876 --> 00:39:05,245 And they told him so. 822 00:39:14,054 --> 00:39:17,557 - The history, it was complicated, all right. 823 00:39:17,590 --> 00:39:21,061 For one thing, the doctor had a roving eye. 824 00:39:21,094 --> 00:39:24,330 Infidelities, like what? 825 00:39:24,364 --> 00:39:29,169 - He had, well, we could say multiple, um, affairs, 826 00:39:29,202 --> 00:39:30,370 multiple girlfriends. 827 00:39:30,403 --> 00:39:32,305 - While he was with Samira? - Yes. 828 00:39:32,339 --> 00:39:36,309 - And, said Jackie Watson, Samira could not bear 829 00:39:36,343 --> 00:39:37,911 her husband's cheating. 830 00:39:37,944 --> 00:39:39,746 - I think it was the one millionth time 831 00:39:39,779 --> 00:39:41,314 he cheated on her. 832 00:39:41,348 --> 00:39:44,551 You know, it's so much a human being can take. 833 00:39:44,584 --> 00:39:47,754 - So the marriage churned along in turmoil. 834 00:39:47,787 --> 00:39:51,458 Sometimes, an angry wife would take it out on her husband 835 00:39:51,491 --> 00:39:52,826 as investigators discovered 836 00:39:52,859 --> 00:39:56,830 when they found this snippet of video on Samira's phone. 837 00:39:56,863 --> 00:40:00,467 She's just locked him out of the car. 838 00:40:02,402 --> 00:40:04,104 - What did you find out about that marriage 839 00:40:04,137 --> 00:40:06,373 and about those two people at the heart of it? 840 00:40:06,406 --> 00:40:10,510 - It was a marriage that lacked trust. 841 00:40:10,543 --> 00:40:14,280 It was verbal abuse. There was physical abuse. 842 00:40:14,314 --> 00:40:16,349 - And then six months before Samira died, 843 00:40:16,383 --> 00:40:20,020 a particularly nasty fight, a call to the police. 844 00:40:20,053 --> 00:40:24,190 And Samira was arrested for domestic battery. 845 00:40:24,224 --> 00:40:28,194 - Samira was a volatile person, would attack Adam. 846 00:40:28,228 --> 00:40:31,498 We know there was a domestic history between the two. 847 00:40:31,531 --> 00:40:34,000 - She was charged a time or two. - She was. 848 00:40:34,034 --> 00:40:36,936 She was charged and arrested for domestic violence. 849 00:40:36,970 --> 00:40:40,573 - And that is how Samira met Annabelle Diaz, 850 00:40:40,607 --> 00:40:41,841 her attorney. 851 00:40:41,875 --> 00:40:42,842 - When we got her out of jail, 852 00:40:42,876 --> 00:40:45,045 then we got served with an injunction. 853 00:40:45,078 --> 00:40:47,313 - Adam's attorney told the judge he'd had enough. 854 00:40:47,347 --> 00:40:50,617 And the judge granted the injunction. 855 00:40:50,650 --> 00:40:53,119 Annabelle Diaz on the way to becoming Samira's friend 856 00:40:53,153 --> 00:40:55,255 now thought that was awful. 857 00:40:55,288 --> 00:40:59,259 - She cannot go back home. She cannot see her kids. 858 00:40:59,292 --> 00:41:00,627 - This is what the injunction said. 859 00:41:00,660 --> 00:41:01,928 - Mm-hmm. 860 00:41:01,961 --> 00:41:03,863 - Didn't stay that way, mind you. 861 00:41:03,897 --> 00:41:05,665 After Samira filed for divorce, 862 00:41:05,699 --> 00:41:09,135 she managed to regain custody of the two little girls. 863 00:41:09,169 --> 00:41:11,671 And she and Adam started living apart. 864 00:41:11,705 --> 00:41:14,507 - Was that breakup particularly painful or-- 865 00:41:14,541 --> 00:41:15,942 - For him? Oh, man. 866 00:41:15,975 --> 00:41:18,812 He did everything he can to keep coming back. 867 00:41:18,845 --> 00:41:20,914 - Best friend Kendall watched as the doctor 868 00:41:20,947 --> 00:41:23,783 tried to put the marriage back together again. 869 00:41:23,817 --> 00:41:25,885 - He still bought her these cars for her. 870 00:41:25,919 --> 00:41:28,555 He still tried to buy her $1,000 dresses 871 00:41:28,588 --> 00:41:30,457 to buy her back. 872 00:41:30,490 --> 00:41:33,093 She would take every bit of it and still-- 873 00:41:33,093 --> 00:41:35,362 - Hold him at bay. - Yeah. 874 00:41:35,395 --> 00:41:37,664 - So was there a motive in all that? 875 00:41:37,697 --> 00:41:40,467 A tumultuous marriage ending in violence, 876 00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:41,868 a husband scorned 877 00:41:41,901 --> 00:41:44,571 still deeply in love with his volatile wife. 878 00:41:44,604 --> 00:41:48,341 Maybe he finally snapped, struck back. 879 00:41:48,375 --> 00:41:50,143 That's what the investigators wondered 880 00:41:50,176 --> 00:41:51,444 as they sat in the interview room 881 00:41:51,478 --> 00:41:53,613 late that night. 882 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,194 - The doctor insisted he wasn't there, 883 00:42:08,228 --> 00:42:10,063 didn't know what happened. 884 00:42:10,063 --> 00:42:13,133 But he thought it was most likely an accident. 885 00:42:23,943 --> 00:42:28,281 - Maybe or maybe not. 886 00:42:28,314 --> 00:42:31,685 - Coming up, a bombshell from a neighbor 887 00:42:31,718 --> 00:42:34,654 who tells police what he saw just minutes before 888 00:42:34,688 --> 00:42:36,556 Samira was found dead. 889 00:42:36,589 --> 00:42:39,426 - He observed a Black female standing outside of 890 00:42:39,459 --> 00:42:40,794 the Frasch's residence. 891 00:42:40,827 --> 00:42:44,764 - Was it Samira or possibly the killer? 892 00:42:50,303 --> 00:42:53,973 ** 893 00:42:54,908 --> 00:42:57,577 Welcome back to Dateline: Secrets Uncovered. 894 00:42:57,610 --> 00:42:59,012 I'm Kate Snow. 895 00:42:59,112 --> 00:43:01,781 Adam Frasch was a well-heeled podiatrist 896 00:43:01,815 --> 00:43:05,085 who his wife Samira believed was having affairs 897 00:43:05,118 --> 00:43:06,519 with other women. 898 00:43:06,553 --> 00:43:09,856 Now, detectives suspected Adam was keeping secrets 899 00:43:09,889 --> 00:43:11,691 about Samira's death. 900 00:43:11,725 --> 00:43:15,362 But a neighbor was about to reveal a strange sighting 901 00:43:15,395 --> 00:43:17,831 that would challenge their theory of the case. 902 00:43:17,864 --> 00:43:23,069 Back to Keith Morrison with "At the Bottom of the Pool." 903 00:43:23,103 --> 00:43:24,904 - Detectives had talked to Adam Frasch 904 00:43:24,938 --> 00:43:28,274 for nearly two hours and listened when he said 905 00:43:28,308 --> 00:43:31,144 he wouldn't harm a hair on her head, 906 00:43:31,177 --> 00:43:34,347 not Samira, the love of his life. 907 00:43:34,381 --> 00:43:38,184 But they weren't buying his accident story, 908 00:43:38,218 --> 00:43:39,853 didn't buy any of it. 909 00:43:39,886 --> 00:43:42,756 In fact, one detective said it sounded to him 910 00:43:42,789 --> 00:43:45,191 like it was a fatal attraction. 911 00:43:51,631 --> 00:43:54,668 - Police had heard enough. 912 00:43:59,939 --> 00:44:03,710 - They arrested Adam Frasch but not for his wife's murder, 913 00:44:03,743 --> 00:44:06,112 didn't have enough evidence for that. 914 00:44:06,146 --> 00:44:08,581 So they found another way. 915 00:44:08,615 --> 00:44:10,884 Because Adam and Samira were in the midst of a divorce 916 00:44:10,917 --> 00:44:12,752 and by court order he had no right 917 00:44:12,786 --> 00:44:14,721 to take the kids that morning, 918 00:44:14,754 --> 00:44:16,890 they had a reason to hold him in jail. 919 00:44:16,923 --> 00:44:20,060 - He was arrested because he violated an agreement 920 00:44:20,060 --> 00:44:21,594 having custody of the children. 921 00:44:21,628 --> 00:44:23,697 - And you can keep them in custody for a while that way? 922 00:44:23,730 --> 00:44:25,398 - Sure. He stayed in custody. 923 00:44:25,432 --> 00:44:28,702 We continued to work our death investigation. 924 00:44:28,735 --> 00:44:31,104 - Adam, in his jail clothes, 925 00:44:31,137 --> 00:44:33,073 was pale and needed a shave 926 00:44:33,073 --> 00:44:34,808 when we caught up with him. 927 00:44:34,841 --> 00:44:36,176 But he had a clear message. 928 00:44:36,209 --> 00:44:38,144 He would never harm his wife. 929 00:44:38,178 --> 00:44:41,414 He loved Samira from the night he met her in Paris, 930 00:44:41,448 --> 00:44:43,850 almost 10 years before. 931 00:44:43,883 --> 00:44:46,319 What did you see in her and she and you? 932 00:44:46,353 --> 00:44:47,721 - Her beauty for one. 933 00:44:47,754 --> 00:44:49,723 - Yeah, couldn't miss that. - Yeah. 934 00:44:49,756 --> 00:44:51,758 And even though she didn't speak very good English 935 00:44:51,791 --> 00:44:53,193 and I spoke no French, 936 00:44:53,226 --> 00:44:57,931 and we just had a kind of a great romantic time together. 937 00:44:57,964 --> 00:45:01,301 - Once they married and started a family, 938 00:45:01,334 --> 00:45:04,771 Adam told us there wasn't a better mother on this earth. 939 00:45:04,804 --> 00:45:05,572 - Hyrah. 940 00:45:05,605 --> 00:45:07,907 - That hyrah.com clothing line? 941 00:45:07,941 --> 00:45:10,577 Adam figured Samira was probably driven 942 00:45:10,610 --> 00:45:13,747 by the deprivations of her own childhood. 943 00:45:13,780 --> 00:45:16,816 - Her intentions were that they have the opportunities 944 00:45:16,850 --> 00:45:18,518 that she didn't have. 945 00:45:18,551 --> 00:45:21,354 - And the day Adam got the call from best friend Kendall 946 00:45:21,388 --> 00:45:23,556 with the awful news about Samira 947 00:45:23,590 --> 00:45:26,126 is still fresh in his mind. 948 00:45:26,159 --> 00:45:27,927 What was it like to hear? 949 00:45:27,961 --> 00:45:29,562 - Oh, it was just terrible. 950 00:45:29,596 --> 00:45:31,698 I mean, it just destroyed my world. 951 00:45:31,731 --> 00:45:34,300 I was just shocked, and crying, and broke down. 952 00:45:34,334 --> 00:45:36,903 My little girl saying "daddy, why are you crying" and stuff. 953 00:45:36,936 --> 00:45:40,573 - But wait, if Adam really was that loving husband, 954 00:45:40,607 --> 00:45:42,075 then what about all the other women, 955 00:45:42,075 --> 00:45:43,843 the stories of infidelity? 956 00:45:43,877 --> 00:45:46,579 Didn't happen, he told us, 957 00:45:46,613 --> 00:45:48,815 not while he was living with Samira, 958 00:45:48,848 --> 00:45:50,784 not until they separated 959 00:45:50,817 --> 00:45:52,485 and he thought his marriage was over. 960 00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:54,387 - Probably under divorce number 3 961 00:45:54,421 --> 00:45:56,956 and get out of this and to start on with my life. 962 00:45:56,990 --> 00:45:58,358 I started dating. 963 00:45:58,391 --> 00:45:59,659 And I didn't realize-- 964 00:45:59,693 --> 00:46:00,727 - They weren't relationships 965 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,028 all the way through your marriage with Sam? 966 00:46:02,062 --> 00:46:04,197 - No, no. I never ever had-- - Because this is the allegation 967 00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:06,566 that's out there. - That's not true. 968 00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:09,035 - In fact, said Adam, he and Samira 969 00:46:09,069 --> 00:46:11,571 were trying to reconcile. 970 00:46:11,604 --> 00:46:13,273 During that last month, 971 00:46:13,306 --> 00:46:14,941 he'd been staying over at the house 972 00:46:15,041 --> 00:46:16,643 with her and the children. 973 00:46:16,676 --> 00:46:18,812 And they agreed to try again. 974 00:46:18,845 --> 00:46:21,715 She was going to call off the divorce, he said. 975 00:46:21,748 --> 00:46:24,651 - And she said, she was sorry and she wanted me back. 976 00:46:24,684 --> 00:46:25,819 - How did that feel? 977 00:46:25,852 --> 00:46:27,654 - So wonderful that I got her back. 978 00:46:27,687 --> 00:46:29,789 And then she admitted it was very difficult 979 00:46:29,823 --> 00:46:31,691 raising the two girls by herself. 980 00:46:31,725 --> 00:46:33,460 - And their final night ended, he said, 981 00:46:33,493 --> 00:46:36,296 with them making love, nothing else. 982 00:46:36,329 --> 00:46:39,632 Murder wasn't possible, said Adam. 983 00:46:39,666 --> 00:46:43,269 And before long, he made bail on the child custody case. 984 00:46:43,303 --> 00:46:44,804 And months passed, 985 00:46:44,838 --> 00:46:47,674 if prosecutors were ever to charge Adam 986 00:46:47,707 --> 00:46:48,908 with Samira's murder, 987 00:46:48,942 --> 00:46:53,079 they'd have to get around a problem, a big one. 988 00:46:53,113 --> 00:46:55,115 - A neighbor of Adam's 989 00:46:55,148 --> 00:46:57,150 came forward with some information. 990 00:46:57,183 --> 00:46:58,385 - What did he tell you? 991 00:46:58,418 --> 00:47:01,121 - On the day that Adam left, 992 00:47:01,154 --> 00:47:03,590 the morning of, 993 00:47:03,623 --> 00:47:06,926 he believed he observed a Black female 994 00:47:07,027 --> 00:47:10,296 standing outside of the Frasch's residence. 995 00:47:10,330 --> 00:47:13,233 - He said she was tall and thin. 996 00:47:13,266 --> 00:47:15,101 - Who did he think it was? 997 00:47:15,135 --> 00:47:18,405 - He never really let on to say this is Samira Frasch. 998 00:47:18,438 --> 00:47:21,608 He just said that he saw a Black female 999 00:47:21,641 --> 00:47:24,511 standing outside of the Frasch's residence. 1000 00:47:24,544 --> 00:47:26,680 - But he thought it probably was her. 1001 00:47:26,713 --> 00:47:29,482 - I think he did. - Yeah. What time? 1002 00:47:29,516 --> 00:47:31,251 - He said that he and his daughter 1003 00:47:31,284 --> 00:47:33,753 were taking a walk in the neighborhood. 1004 00:47:33,787 --> 00:47:37,223 And this was in a time period about 20 minutes before 1005 00:47:37,257 --> 00:47:38,858 Gerald Garner had discovered her. 1006 00:47:38,892 --> 00:47:40,860 - So wait a minute, that would be like 1007 00:47:40,894 --> 00:47:42,929 10:30 or 10:20, or something like that. 1008 00:47:42,962 --> 00:47:44,497 - Correct. 1009 00:47:44,531 --> 00:47:48,535 - And he was very sure about the time, very sure. 1010 00:47:48,568 --> 00:47:51,971 No earlier than 10:25 AM. 1011 00:47:52,072 --> 00:47:54,641 So was it Samira? 1012 00:47:54,674 --> 00:47:56,743 The detectives were baffled. 1013 00:47:56,776 --> 00:47:58,978 Having checked the security gate cameras, 1014 00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:01,448 they knew Adam had, as he told them, 1015 00:48:01,481 --> 00:48:02,916 left the house with the two kids 1016 00:48:03,016 --> 00:48:04,718 around 8:00 that morning. 1017 00:48:04,751 --> 00:48:07,620 And if the woman the neighbor saw was Samira, 1018 00:48:07,654 --> 00:48:10,490 that meant she was still alive when Adam left 1019 00:48:10,523 --> 00:48:12,759 and for a couple of hours after. 1020 00:48:12,792 --> 00:48:15,862 - And if that person was telling the truth 1021 00:48:15,895 --> 00:48:17,497 or it was accurate, 1022 00:48:17,530 --> 00:48:20,633 your guy couldn't have done the crime. 1023 00:48:20,667 --> 00:48:22,102 - That's correct. 1024 00:48:22,135 --> 00:48:25,205 - And then there was another possibility 1025 00:48:25,238 --> 00:48:28,441 that the woman in the driveway wasn't Samira at all. 1026 00:48:28,475 --> 00:48:31,244 It was someone else entirely. 1027 00:48:31,277 --> 00:48:32,846 And if that was true, 1028 00:48:32,879 --> 00:48:34,614 the woman the neighbors saw 1029 00:48:34,647 --> 00:48:36,750 might have been the killer. 1030 00:48:36,783 --> 00:48:39,052 - So what did you do about it? 1031 00:48:39,052 --> 00:48:42,689 - For me, it was try to figure out who it is he saw. 1032 00:48:42,722 --> 00:48:45,759 Was he, one, was he in the right driveway? 1033 00:48:45,792 --> 00:48:48,328 Two, could it have been somebody else? 1034 00:48:48,361 --> 00:48:51,698 It was a tough, tough situation. 1035 00:48:51,731 --> 00:48:53,233 - Tough, yes. 1036 00:48:53,266 --> 00:48:56,503 The cops had their work cut out for them now, 1037 00:48:56,536 --> 00:49:00,173 how to track down the woman in the driveway. 1038 00:49:02,108 --> 00:49:03,777 - Despite Adam's denials, 1039 00:49:03,810 --> 00:49:06,913 investigators believe Adam cheated on his wife. 1040 00:49:07,013 --> 00:49:11,051 Could the mystery woman be someone the doctor was seeing? 1041 00:49:12,752 --> 00:49:13,820 - So tell me about these girlfriends, 1042 00:49:13,853 --> 00:49:15,321 what kind of people were they? 1043 00:49:15,355 --> 00:49:16,690 - Three of them were strippers. 1044 00:49:16,723 --> 00:49:19,926 - When "Dateline: Secrets Uncovered" continues. 1045 00:49:23,196 --> 00:49:29,502 ** 1046 00:49:30,303 --> 00:49:32,472 - Detectives are paid to be skeptical. 1047 00:49:32,505 --> 00:49:34,708 And in this case, their suspicions lay 1048 00:49:34,741 --> 00:49:38,044 like a wet blanket on Adam Frasch's explanations. 1049 00:49:38,044 --> 00:49:40,046 One, in particular, 1050 00:49:40,046 --> 00:49:42,182 Adam's saying he only dated other women 1051 00:49:42,215 --> 00:49:44,517 after Samira filed for divorce. 1052 00:49:44,551 --> 00:49:47,053 Well, nothing could be further from the truth, 1053 00:49:47,053 --> 00:49:48,421 said the detectives. 1054 00:49:48,455 --> 00:49:53,326 - Mr. Frasch had multiple female acquaintances, 1055 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,063 several of which looked very similar, stature. 1056 00:49:57,097 --> 00:50:03,203 - Yeah. So would these women be seen as suspects? 1057 00:50:03,236 --> 00:50:06,072 - I mean, they're persons of interest. 1058 00:50:06,106 --> 00:50:09,809 I wouldn't necessarily put them in the suspect category. 1059 00:50:09,843 --> 00:50:11,011 But if we were-- 1060 00:50:11,044 --> 00:50:15,115 throughout this investigation, everybody's potential. 1061 00:50:15,148 --> 00:50:17,650 - And they could not ignore the possibility 1062 00:50:17,684 --> 00:50:19,419 that one of those other women 1063 00:50:19,452 --> 00:50:21,955 wanted to take Samira's place in Adam's life, 1064 00:50:21,988 --> 00:50:24,691 that one of them could be the woman 1065 00:50:24,724 --> 00:50:26,860 the neighbor saw in the driveway. 1066 00:50:26,893 --> 00:50:28,461 - So tell me about these girlfriends, 1067 00:50:28,495 --> 00:50:30,030 what kind of people were they? 1068 00:50:30,063 --> 00:50:31,865 - Three of them were strippers. 1069 00:50:31,898 --> 00:50:33,199 - So you actually find yourself 1070 00:50:33,233 --> 00:50:34,467 kind of traveling around the state 1071 00:50:34,501 --> 00:50:36,536 going to strip clubs and tracking people down? 1072 00:50:36,569 --> 00:50:41,441 - I did. I did. Not the best time. 1073 00:50:41,474 --> 00:50:43,977 - And for each one, a question-- 1074 00:50:44,010 --> 00:50:45,378 - Had you been to Tallahassee? 1075 00:50:45,412 --> 00:50:46,946 When was the last time you were at Tallahassee? 1076 00:50:46,980 --> 00:50:48,915 - Chiquita was one of the women. 1077 00:50:48,948 --> 00:50:51,084 She fit the description of the woman the neighbor saw 1078 00:50:51,117 --> 00:50:52,619 on the driveway that morning. 1079 00:51:07,801 --> 00:51:09,803 - Then there was Erica, 1080 00:51:09,836 --> 00:51:12,839 also a possible match for the mystery woman. 1081 00:51:21,448 --> 00:51:24,084 - There was also a third woman, 1082 00:51:24,084 --> 00:51:25,552 not one of the strippers, 1083 00:51:25,585 --> 00:51:28,555 a woman whose story was a lot more complicated. 1084 00:51:28,588 --> 00:51:31,591 Her name, Martha Moore. 1085 00:51:31,624 --> 00:51:32,959 - It's somewhere between the engagement 1086 00:51:32,992 --> 00:51:34,094 and the marriage, 1087 00:51:34,127 --> 00:51:35,729 Adam had a relationship 1088 00:51:35,762 --> 00:51:37,797 with an individual named Martha Moore. 1089 00:51:37,831 --> 00:51:39,733 And they had a child as well. 1090 00:51:39,766 --> 00:51:41,568 - Awkward. 1091 00:51:41,601 --> 00:51:43,336 - Slightly. 1092 00:51:43,370 --> 00:51:45,839 - When Adam found out she was pregnant, 1093 00:51:45,872 --> 00:51:48,208 he did the decent thing. 1094 00:51:48,241 --> 00:51:51,111 - Put up in a place, got her a car, 1095 00:51:51,111 --> 00:51:53,780 always gave her money 1096 00:51:53,813 --> 00:51:57,117 - Samira found out about Martha when she moved to Florida 1097 00:51:57,117 --> 00:51:59,119 just before she married Adam. 1098 00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:01,488 But she went ahead with the wedding anyway, 1099 00:52:01,521 --> 00:52:04,424 except these things do have a way 1100 00:52:04,457 --> 00:52:07,160 of worming themselves into a marriage. 1101 00:52:07,193 --> 00:52:09,396 The issue didn't die 1102 00:52:09,429 --> 00:52:12,165 - She made him take a DNA to find out 1103 00:52:12,198 --> 00:52:14,067 if it was his child or not. 1104 00:52:14,067 --> 00:52:17,470 And when he did and it was, then she really got upset. 1105 00:52:17,504 --> 00:52:21,207 - Investigators naturally wanted to talk to Martha, 1106 00:52:21,241 --> 00:52:23,276 especially after they found out 1107 00:52:23,309 --> 00:52:25,278 Samira confronted her on the phone 1108 00:52:25,311 --> 00:52:26,446 a number of times 1109 00:52:26,479 --> 00:52:28,882 after she found out about the baby. 1110 00:52:28,915 --> 00:52:31,351 So what happened then? 1111 00:52:45,598 --> 00:52:47,534 - And so she did. 1112 00:52:47,567 --> 00:52:49,803 - Police let her go after the interview. 1113 00:52:49,836 --> 00:52:52,339 Like the other women, she had an alibi, 1114 00:52:52,372 --> 00:52:55,208 which detectives would have to check out of course. 1115 00:52:55,241 --> 00:52:57,477 But in the meantime, they had another way 1116 00:52:57,510 --> 00:53:01,648 to get at the truth, one a bit more foolproof. 1117 00:53:01,681 --> 00:53:04,551 - We had an unknown DNA on a robe that came off 1118 00:53:04,584 --> 00:53:05,885 of the victim in the pool. 1119 00:53:05,919 --> 00:53:08,455 - Samira's Leopard print robe. 1120 00:53:08,488 --> 00:53:11,925 If one of those women had thrown Samira into the pool, 1121 00:53:11,958 --> 00:53:15,428 she may have left a little of herself behind. 1122 00:53:15,462 --> 00:53:18,198 Newland got DNA samples from the women. 1123 00:53:18,231 --> 00:53:22,402 - We tried to eliminate all of them. 1124 00:53:22,435 --> 00:53:25,372 - No matches, not to the women, 1125 00:53:25,405 --> 00:53:27,607 and not to the handyman, or his son, 1126 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,076 and not to Adam's friend, Kendall. 1127 00:53:30,076 --> 00:53:31,478 All of them were cleared. 1128 00:53:31,511 --> 00:53:33,213 Investigators couldn't figure out 1129 00:53:33,246 --> 00:53:35,749 who the woman in the driveway was. 1130 00:53:35,782 --> 00:53:38,251 Now, they were back to square one. 1131 00:53:38,284 --> 00:53:42,088 And they figured Adam Frasch was standing squarely in it, 1132 00:53:42,088 --> 00:53:44,524 had put himself there when he claimed Samira let him 1133 00:53:44,557 --> 00:53:46,826 take the children to the beach house. 1134 00:53:46,860 --> 00:53:49,562 - I know she would never give the kids. 1135 00:53:49,596 --> 00:53:51,331 This is for sure. 1136 00:53:51,364 --> 00:53:54,200 - And certainly not the way they were dressed, 1137 00:53:54,234 --> 00:53:56,202 wasn't Samira style. 1138 00:53:56,236 --> 00:53:58,538 - The date that Adam took the children 1139 00:53:58,571 --> 00:54:01,474 to go to Panama City to give Samira a break, 1140 00:54:01,508 --> 00:54:03,243 they were in pajamas. 1141 00:54:03,276 --> 00:54:05,211 - Which simply wouldn't happen if she had 1142 00:54:05,245 --> 00:54:06,546 anything to do with it. - Never gonna happen. 1143 00:54:06,579 --> 00:54:08,481 No. - I see. 1144 00:54:08,515 --> 00:54:10,684 Open to interpretation, of course, 1145 00:54:10,717 --> 00:54:14,688 like phone messages left by Adam on Samira's phone 1146 00:54:14,721 --> 00:54:18,291 after his friend Kendall told him she was dead. 1147 00:54:18,324 --> 00:54:20,694 What were they to make of this? 1148 00:54:28,802 --> 00:54:30,470 - He had called her throughout the day, 1149 00:54:30,503 --> 00:54:31,805 leaving voicemails, 1150 00:54:31,838 --> 00:54:32,972 "I'm getting worried about you, 1151 00:54:33,073 --> 00:54:35,141 why aren't you answering your phone?" 1152 00:54:35,175 --> 00:54:39,212 - Wouldn't that suggest more innocence than guilt? 1153 00:54:39,245 --> 00:54:41,614 - I believe it's just another attempt 1154 00:54:41,648 --> 00:54:43,483 at an alibi for Adam Frasch. 1155 00:54:43,516 --> 00:54:46,086 - And you know the story Adam told 1156 00:54:46,086 --> 00:54:48,922 of that last happy day with Samira? 1157 00:54:48,955 --> 00:54:52,592 Well, security camera tapes from late that night 1158 00:54:52,625 --> 00:54:54,794 told a very different story. 1159 00:54:54,828 --> 00:54:59,232 First, in an auto repair shop, Adam trying to talk to her. 1160 00:54:59,265 --> 00:55:02,602 Samira driving, backs up the car with the door open 1161 00:55:02,635 --> 00:55:06,106 and him in it like she doesn't seem to want any part of it. 1162 00:55:06,139 --> 00:55:08,375 Same kind of thing when they got home, 1163 00:55:08,408 --> 00:55:10,944 Adam tries to talk to her through the car door. 1164 00:55:11,044 --> 00:55:12,712 She slams it on him. 1165 00:55:12,746 --> 00:55:17,250 And if a lot of this wasn't hard evidence against Adam, 1166 00:55:17,283 --> 00:55:20,353 it did make for a pretty strong circumstantial case 1167 00:55:20,387 --> 00:55:23,590 or so prosecutor Georgia Cappleman believed. 1168 00:55:23,623 --> 00:55:27,394 So she convened a grand jury and put the case to them. 1169 00:55:27,427 --> 00:55:29,429 And this was unusual. 1170 00:55:29,462 --> 00:55:31,464 Adam testified. 1171 00:55:31,498 --> 00:55:32,499 - It didn't surprise me. 1172 00:55:32,532 --> 00:55:35,702 He's a talker. He's, you know, smooth. 1173 00:55:35,735 --> 00:55:38,405 He thinks he can talk his way out of things. 1174 00:55:38,438 --> 00:55:40,640 - Not this time, apparently. 1175 00:55:40,674 --> 00:55:43,777 Adam was indicted for first degree murder. 1176 00:55:43,810 --> 00:55:48,081 And so a jury would decide if, as one detective said, 1177 00:55:48,114 --> 00:55:53,286 Adam Frasch loved his wife to death. 1178 00:55:53,319 --> 00:55:57,724 - Coming up, damning testimony from an ear witness. 1179 00:55:57,757 --> 00:56:01,394 - During the time that Mr. Frasch was on speakerphone, 1180 00:56:01,428 --> 00:56:03,797 did he make any threats to harm Mrs. Frasch? 1181 00:56:03,830 --> 00:56:06,533 - He did. He said, "I will kill you." 1182 00:56:12,138 --> 00:56:16,876 ** 1183 00:56:17,744 --> 00:56:20,447 - Adam Frasch was in a world of trouble, 1184 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,216 charged with killing his wife and facing the possibility 1185 00:56:23,249 --> 00:56:24,884 of a life sentence. 1186 00:56:24,918 --> 00:56:26,686 And if that wasn't enough, 1187 00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:29,089 federal agents raided his medical office 1188 00:56:29,122 --> 00:56:32,726 on suspicion of Medicare fraud, which might explain 1189 00:56:32,759 --> 00:56:35,762 why the podiatrist seems so filthy rich. 1190 00:56:35,795 --> 00:56:38,631 Prosecutor Georgia Cappleman became aware of the raid 1191 00:56:38,665 --> 00:56:41,201 after she took on Frasch's murder case. 1192 00:56:41,234 --> 00:56:42,135 - He would have had to have been 1193 00:56:42,168 --> 00:56:45,538 seeing two patients simultaneously 24/7 1194 00:56:45,572 --> 00:56:47,874 to account for the amount of billing 1195 00:56:47,907 --> 00:56:52,078 that he was doing. So that was pretty flagrant. 1196 00:56:52,112 --> 00:56:54,948 - Busy guy. - Yeah. 1197 00:56:54,981 --> 00:56:59,085 - The feds investigated but did not press charges. 1198 00:56:59,085 --> 00:57:02,322 And then as Frasch's trial date for murder approached, 1199 00:57:02,355 --> 00:57:06,026 prosecutors offered him a deal to plead guilty to manslaughter 1200 00:57:06,026 --> 00:57:09,362 and serve a maximum of 15 years in prison. 1201 00:57:09,396 --> 00:57:15,068 Adam said, no, he was innocent and wanted his day in court. 1202 00:57:16,169 --> 00:57:18,438 - Adam, how are you feeling going today? 1203 00:57:18,471 --> 00:57:19,406 - Fine. 1204 00:57:19,439 --> 00:57:21,474 - And so almost three years after Samira 1205 00:57:21,508 --> 00:57:24,044 was found at the bottom of the family pool, 1206 00:57:24,077 --> 00:57:27,047 her husband went on trial for murder. 1207 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,449 His father Alvin was there. 1208 00:57:29,482 --> 00:57:32,052 - It's a bad situation for the whole family 1209 00:57:32,052 --> 00:57:36,890 and for him, too, because it destroyed his life. 1210 00:57:36,923 --> 00:57:39,392 - Samira's family was thousands of miles away 1211 00:57:39,426 --> 00:57:41,661 in Madagascar and France. 1212 00:57:41,695 --> 00:57:43,396 But she did have an advocate in court, 1213 00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:46,499 a tough and experienced prosecutor. 1214 00:57:46,533 --> 00:57:49,936 - The cause of death as ruled by the medical examiner 1215 00:57:49,969 --> 00:57:53,573 was blunt force trauma and drowning. 1216 00:57:53,606 --> 00:57:55,809 He basically killed her twice. 1217 00:57:55,842 --> 00:57:58,478 He hit her and caused such massive injuries 1218 00:57:58,511 --> 00:58:02,015 that she probably would have died from that, very likely, 1219 00:58:02,015 --> 00:58:06,052 but then threw her in the pool while she was still alive. 1220 00:58:06,086 --> 00:58:08,888 Who would do such a thing to this beautiful young mother 1221 00:58:08,922 --> 00:58:11,291 of two small girls? 1222 00:58:11,324 --> 00:58:14,728 - Well, had to be Adam, said the prosecutor. 1223 00:58:14,761 --> 00:58:17,430 - Their history was probably the biggest clue 1224 00:58:17,464 --> 00:58:19,065 that it was a homicide. 1225 00:58:19,099 --> 00:58:23,770 - Yes, that history of excess, infidelity, and conflict, 1226 00:58:23,803 --> 00:58:26,272 which she said led to a fatal confrontation 1227 00:58:26,306 --> 00:58:28,308 at the swimming pool. 1228 00:58:28,341 --> 00:58:30,710 The ugly scene was described by the handyman 1229 00:58:30,744 --> 00:58:32,545 who discovered her body. 1230 00:58:32,579 --> 00:58:35,215 - There she was, laying in the pool. 1231 00:58:35,248 --> 00:58:36,916 - And when you say there she was, who was? 1232 00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:38,685 - Mrs. Frasch laying in the pool. 1233 00:58:38,718 --> 00:58:39,786 - All right. 1234 00:58:39,819 --> 00:58:42,088 - And how could the jury be sure she didn't trip 1235 00:58:42,122 --> 00:58:44,090 and fall by accident? 1236 00:58:44,124 --> 00:58:46,126 Here was the medical examiner. 1237 00:58:46,159 --> 00:58:47,694 - Do you have an opinion as to whether 1238 00:58:47,727 --> 00:58:50,497 she could have tripped and bumped her head 1239 00:58:50,530 --> 00:58:52,565 and fallen into the pool? 1240 00:58:52,599 --> 00:58:54,167 - I don't think that's what happened. 1241 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,437 These are significant impacts that I don't think 1242 00:58:57,470 --> 00:59:02,609 she would generate herself by just falling. 1243 00:59:02,642 --> 00:59:05,011 - You imagine a scenario where she would have hit 1244 00:59:05,011 --> 00:59:06,212 both sides of her head 1245 00:59:06,246 --> 00:59:09,149 and then managed to get into the pool? 1246 00:59:09,182 --> 00:59:10,784 - I can't. No. 1247 00:59:10,817 --> 00:59:14,587 - Detective Tony Giraldi testified and told us that 1248 00:59:14,621 --> 00:59:17,023 when he first met Dr. Frasch-- 1249 00:59:17,057 --> 00:59:20,760 - He had some scratches, some significant marks 1250 00:59:20,794 --> 00:59:23,430 that not a normal person would have. 1251 00:59:23,463 --> 00:59:25,031 - Well, how did he get them? Did he tell you? 1252 00:59:25,065 --> 00:59:27,400 - So he told investigators some of the marks 1253 00:59:27,434 --> 00:59:30,437 were from him and his wife, Samira, 1254 00:59:30,470 --> 00:59:33,540 having sexual intercourse the night before. 1255 00:59:33,573 --> 00:59:35,542 So they were love marks. - My goodness. 1256 00:59:35,575 --> 00:59:37,077 - The specific one under his eye, 1257 00:59:37,110 --> 00:59:40,080 he shared with us that his 10-month-old child 1258 00:59:40,113 --> 00:59:41,348 had scratched him. 1259 00:59:41,381 --> 00:59:44,117 - You're about to hear a recorded conversation. 1260 00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:46,186 - The prosecutor made sure the jury would hear 1261 00:59:46,219 --> 00:59:49,689 the detective's skepticism about those scratches 1262 00:59:49,723 --> 00:59:53,059 by playing recordings of the interrogation. 1263 01:00:04,104 --> 01:00:06,706 - The prosecutor argued that Adam killed Samira 1264 01:00:06,740 --> 01:00:09,309 before leaving for the beach at 8:00 AM. 1265 01:00:09,342 --> 01:00:13,179 On the stand, the ME testified that the time of death 1266 01:00:13,213 --> 01:00:15,215 was unknowable. 1267 01:00:15,248 --> 01:00:18,818 - There's no way of saying the exact time of death 1268 01:00:18,852 --> 01:00:21,087 or I should say when she's placed in the pool. 1269 01:00:21,121 --> 01:00:22,655 There's just no way to say. 1270 01:00:22,689 --> 01:00:26,159 - The prosecutor Cappleman not knowing when Samira died 1271 01:00:26,192 --> 01:00:29,496 simply meant Dr. Frasch could not be ruled out. 1272 01:00:29,529 --> 01:00:30,663 He must have killed her 1273 01:00:30,697 --> 01:00:33,333 before leaving the house at 8:00. 1274 01:00:33,366 --> 01:00:35,602 And the way he drove off with the girls that morning, 1275 01:00:35,635 --> 01:00:36,936 very suspicious. 1276 01:00:36,970 --> 01:00:37,971 - Really unusual that 1277 01:00:38,004 --> 01:00:40,140 he would depart with those kids at 8:00 AM 1278 01:00:40,173 --> 01:00:43,143 after getting in at midnight the night before 1279 01:00:43,176 --> 01:00:45,145 and to load up and pack up and take 1280 01:00:45,178 --> 01:00:49,082 the kids for the first time ever off on a trip somewhere. 1281 01:00:49,115 --> 01:00:51,484 And his wife happens to be discovered dead 1282 01:00:51,518 --> 01:00:53,053 a few hours later. 1283 01:00:53,086 --> 01:00:54,788 - And after, said the prosecutor, 1284 01:00:54,821 --> 01:00:56,589 the doctor sped away with the kids 1285 01:00:56,623 --> 01:00:58,792 toward a woman named Martha Moore, 1286 01:00:58,825 --> 01:01:02,195 the other woman, with whom he'd had a baby. 1287 01:01:02,228 --> 01:01:04,631 Martha was called to testify about a phone call 1288 01:01:04,664 --> 01:01:06,866 she got from Frasch that morning. 1289 01:01:06,900 --> 01:01:09,936 - What did he say on that call? 1290 01:01:09,969 --> 01:01:12,439 - He said he was on his way to my house. 1291 01:01:12,472 --> 01:01:14,607 - Why did you put Martha Moore on the stand? 1292 01:01:14,641 --> 01:01:19,479 - To establish that the defendant called her first 1293 01:01:19,512 --> 01:01:22,082 and he was headed in the direction of her home. 1294 01:01:22,082 --> 01:01:24,084 I believe to drop the kids off there, 1295 01:01:24,084 --> 01:01:26,586 it was probably his intention and then to flee. 1296 01:01:26,619 --> 01:01:28,888 - That was really only speculation, of course. 1297 01:01:28,922 --> 01:01:32,192 And Martha wasn't home that morning anyway. 1298 01:01:32,225 --> 01:01:33,593 But on the stand, she acknowledged 1299 01:01:33,626 --> 01:01:37,330 it seemed unusual the girls would be alone with Adam. 1300 01:01:37,364 --> 01:01:41,167 - You know, they were, um, going through the battle 1301 01:01:41,201 --> 01:01:42,869 of divorce. 1302 01:01:42,902 --> 01:01:46,506 And in the court orders, he shouldn't have had the kids. 1303 01:01:46,539 --> 01:01:47,974 - To prosecutor Cappleman, 1304 01:01:48,008 --> 01:01:50,510 it was a bad set of facts for Adam Frasch, 1305 01:01:50,543 --> 01:01:52,679 a scorned husband with ample time 1306 01:01:52,712 --> 01:01:57,017 to commit murder before hastily fleeing the scene 1307 01:01:57,117 --> 01:01:59,919 with kids who were not supposed to be in his care. 1308 01:02:04,591 --> 01:02:06,326 - Cappleman played more than an hour 1309 01:02:06,359 --> 01:02:08,428 of Frasch speaking to investigators, 1310 01:02:08,461 --> 01:02:10,096 homing in on his demeanor 1311 01:02:10,130 --> 01:02:12,832 in the hours after Samira's death. 1312 01:02:28,948 --> 01:02:31,217 - Frasch spoke with several law enforcement officers 1313 01:02:31,251 --> 01:02:32,519 in those early hours. 1314 01:02:32,552 --> 01:02:34,988 Lieutenant Chad King was one of them. 1315 01:02:35,088 --> 01:02:37,223 - He put his hands over his face. 1316 01:02:37,257 --> 01:02:39,626 - Were you able to observe, though, any actual tears? 1317 01:02:39,659 --> 01:02:41,294 - None that we saw, no. 1318 01:02:41,327 --> 01:02:42,996 - And then the prosecutor called a man 1319 01:02:43,096 --> 01:02:46,933 who could comment directly on Adam Frasch's state of mind, 1320 01:02:46,966 --> 01:02:50,103 a man named Steven Wilson who said he helped Samira 1321 01:02:50,103 --> 01:02:53,139 set up a website celebrating her daughter. 1322 01:02:53,173 --> 01:02:56,242 He recounted something he said he heard with his own ears 1323 01:02:56,276 --> 01:02:59,546 less than two weeks before Samira was killed. 1324 01:02:59,579 --> 01:03:01,915 - Did you have an opportunity to overhear an argument 1325 01:03:01,948 --> 01:03:04,217 between Mr. And Mrs. Frasch? 1326 01:03:04,250 --> 01:03:07,053 - Yes, on the phone. - And during the time 1327 01:03:07,087 --> 01:03:09,656 that Mr. Frasch was on speaker phone, 1328 01:03:09,689 --> 01:03:12,092 did he make any threats to harm Mrs. Frasch? 1329 01:03:12,125 --> 01:03:13,293 - He did. 1330 01:03:13,326 --> 01:03:16,396 - And what did he say? - He said, "I will kill you." 1331 01:03:16,429 --> 01:03:19,099 - "I will kill you," the words of a man 1332 01:03:19,132 --> 01:03:22,369 who looked guilty at every turn, said the prosecutor. 1333 01:03:22,402 --> 01:03:23,470 Of course, the evidence 1334 01:03:23,503 --> 01:03:26,106 was circumstantial, disputed, 1335 01:03:26,139 --> 01:03:29,376 but there was one more player waiting in the wings. 1336 01:03:29,409 --> 01:03:32,812 And what a story he would tell. 1337 01:03:32,846 --> 01:03:36,282 - Coming up, that tale would lead investigators 1338 01:03:36,316 --> 01:03:40,086 back to the Frasch house and a dramatic discovery. 1339 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,088 - Bingo. - Yeah, bingo. 1340 01:03:42,088 --> 01:03:43,456 I literally looked at it for a minute. 1341 01:03:43,490 --> 01:03:45,325 I was like, seriously? 1342 01:03:51,164 --> 01:03:55,402 ** 1343 01:03:55,769 --> 01:03:57,103 Welcome back. 1344 01:03:57,103 --> 01:04:00,707 Adam Frasch was on trial for the murder of his wife, Samira. 1345 01:04:00,740 --> 01:04:01,941 The prosecution argued that 1346 01:04:02,042 --> 01:04:04,310 the couple's extravagant lifestyle 1347 01:04:04,344 --> 01:04:07,047 and Adam's history of secret affairs 1348 01:04:07,047 --> 01:04:09,516 sparked the deadly confrontation. 1349 01:04:09,549 --> 01:04:11,885 A witness testified that he once overheard 1350 01:04:11,918 --> 01:04:13,920 Adam threaten Samira. 1351 01:04:13,953 --> 01:04:17,857 Now, the prosecution had another powerful card to play, 1352 01:04:17,891 --> 01:04:21,161 a surprise witness was about to take the stand. 1353 01:04:21,194 --> 01:04:26,066 Back to Keith Morrison with "At the Bottom of the Pool." 1354 01:04:26,099 --> 01:04:28,635 - There's a long tradition in American jurisprudence 1355 01:04:28,668 --> 01:04:31,671 condemned as often as it's used, 1356 01:04:31,705 --> 01:04:34,174 the jailhouse snitch, 1357 01:04:34,207 --> 01:04:37,544 the witness prosecutors hate to love. 1358 01:04:37,577 --> 01:04:41,281 But this one had a story just too good to pass up. 1359 01:04:41,314 --> 01:04:45,985 His name was Folsom-- yes, like the prison. 1360 01:04:46,086 --> 01:04:48,655 And he told his keepers he had something to say 1361 01:04:48,688 --> 01:04:50,623 about Adam Frasch. 1362 01:04:50,657 --> 01:04:52,092 - Did they, in fact, spend some time 1363 01:04:52,092 --> 01:04:53,226 in a jail cell together? 1364 01:04:53,259 --> 01:04:56,363 - They spent, uh, several months in a cell together. 1365 01:04:56,396 --> 01:04:58,932 They did in top bunk, bottom bunk. 1366 01:04:58,965 --> 01:05:01,034 - Prosecution investigator Jason Newland 1367 01:05:01,067 --> 01:05:03,737 talked to Folsom in the County lockup. 1368 01:05:08,341 --> 01:05:11,878 - I believe the information he provided me was credible. 1369 01:05:11,911 --> 01:05:14,381 And here was the story Folsom said he got 1370 01:05:14,414 --> 01:05:16,082 from Dr. Frasch. 1371 01:05:16,116 --> 01:05:18,385 On the day she died, Samira discovered 1372 01:05:18,418 --> 01:05:21,521 her husband had been texting another woman. 1373 01:05:21,554 --> 01:05:24,724 And she, hurt and angry, lost her temper, 1374 01:05:24,758 --> 01:05:29,863 started a fight, and ended up at the bottom of the pool. 1375 01:05:29,896 --> 01:05:33,133 Now, on day three of Adam Frasch's trial, 1376 01:05:33,166 --> 01:05:35,402 Dale Folsom raised his right hand, 1377 01:05:35,435 --> 01:05:39,906 and swore to tell the truth, and told that story to the jury. 1378 01:05:39,939 --> 01:05:42,676 - She started a fight that night and kicked him in the back. 1379 01:05:42,709 --> 01:05:44,477 - Folsom's testimony about the fight 1380 01:05:44,511 --> 01:05:48,615 between Adam and Samira was vivid and rich with detail. 1381 01:05:48,648 --> 01:05:50,150 - He defended himself pretty much. 1382 01:05:50,183 --> 01:05:52,152 He thought they were fighting. 1383 01:05:52,185 --> 01:05:55,388 And he hit her in the head w-with a club. 1384 01:05:55,422 --> 01:05:58,692 - What happened, he hit her in the head? 1385 01:05:58,725 --> 01:06:00,760 - With a club, golf club. 1386 01:06:00,794 --> 01:06:02,128 And he said he didn't mean to kill her. 1387 01:06:02,162 --> 01:06:03,930 It just happened. 1388 01:06:04,030 --> 01:06:05,098 And he got scared and ran, 1389 01:06:05,131 --> 01:06:07,467 so threw her in the pool and then ran. 1390 01:06:07,500 --> 01:06:09,769 - In a largely circumstantial case, 1391 01:06:09,803 --> 01:06:13,907 here was an account of exactly what happened, allegedly, 1392 01:06:13,940 --> 01:06:15,909 from the killer himself. 1393 01:06:15,942 --> 01:06:17,277 - What defendant with any sense 1394 01:06:17,310 --> 01:06:19,045 is going to tell somebody what happened when 1395 01:06:19,045 --> 01:06:20,246 he hasn't gone on trial yet? 1396 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,248 - They do it all the time. 1397 01:06:22,282 --> 01:06:24,718 If they had any sense, they wouldn't be defendants. 1398 01:06:24,751 --> 01:06:26,052 - I suppose there's that. 1399 01:06:26,052 --> 01:06:29,089 - Got nothing to do all day but stare at those four walls. 1400 01:06:29,122 --> 01:06:31,424 I mean, you got to talk to somebody, right? 1401 01:06:31,458 --> 01:06:32,659 - Yeah. 1402 01:06:32,692 --> 01:06:33,893 - If it's a piece of evidence, I'm going to put it on. 1403 01:06:33,927 --> 01:06:35,762 And it's going to be up to the jury to decide 1404 01:06:35,795 --> 01:06:37,731 whether he's credible or not. 1405 01:06:37,764 --> 01:06:39,299 - It was up to investigator Newland 1406 01:06:39,332 --> 01:06:41,134 to vet Dale Folsom's story, 1407 01:06:41,167 --> 01:06:44,170 find evidence it was actually true. 1408 01:06:44,204 --> 01:06:46,106 And he came up with something, 1409 01:06:46,139 --> 01:06:49,175 came up with something almost too good to be true. 1410 01:06:49,209 --> 01:06:51,211 Newland testified that when Folsom was about 1411 01:06:51,244 --> 01:06:52,812 to be released from jail, 1412 01:06:52,846 --> 01:06:55,715 Dr. Frasch asked him to take care of something, 1413 01:06:55,749 --> 01:06:57,951 something in his house. 1414 01:06:57,984 --> 01:07:00,020 - I'll never forget Dale telling me, he said, 1415 01:07:00,020 --> 01:07:03,456 Adam told him to get rid of the golf clubs anyway, anyhow, 1416 01:07:03,490 --> 01:07:05,759 throw them in a lake, throw them in a river. 1417 01:07:05,792 --> 01:07:09,229 Do not give them to anyone, just make them go away. 1418 01:07:09,262 --> 01:07:11,197 - Make them go away? 1419 01:07:11,231 --> 01:07:12,832 Folsom said there was no mistaking 1420 01:07:12,866 --> 01:07:14,300 what Frasch meant that he wanted him 1421 01:07:14,334 --> 01:07:16,136 to get rid of those golf clubs 1422 01:07:16,169 --> 01:07:17,437 which would include, of course, 1423 01:07:17,470 --> 01:07:19,939 the one Frasch said he used to hit Samira, 1424 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:21,708 the murder weapon. 1425 01:07:21,741 --> 01:07:23,610 - Did he tell you a specific golf club 1426 01:07:23,643 --> 01:07:25,278 that needed to be gotten? 1427 01:07:25,311 --> 01:07:26,346 - Yes, ma'am. 1428 01:07:26,379 --> 01:07:30,116 A big club like a driver, a big fat one. 1429 01:07:30,150 --> 01:07:32,052 - And now, in court-- - Yes, ma'am. 1430 01:07:32,052 --> 01:07:34,054 - --a real life Perry Mason moment. 1431 01:07:34,054 --> 01:07:37,357 - This is state's exhibit 121. 1432 01:07:37,390 --> 01:07:39,926 - Investigator Newland took a big fat golf club 1433 01:07:39,959 --> 01:07:41,828 out of an evidence box-- - Yes, I do. 1434 01:07:41,861 --> 01:07:44,097 - --so the jury could have a good look. 1435 01:07:44,130 --> 01:07:45,365 - This is-- this is the golf club. 1436 01:07:45,398 --> 01:07:47,467 - The one with the purple clubhead? 1437 01:07:47,500 --> 01:07:48,668 - Yes, ma'am. 1438 01:07:48,702 --> 01:07:51,271 - How did Newland get that club? 1439 01:07:51,304 --> 01:07:54,407 Well, Folsom never did make it to the house. 1440 01:07:54,441 --> 01:07:57,077 So Newland got a search warrant 1441 01:07:57,110 --> 01:07:59,746 and went for a little look around. 1442 01:07:59,779 --> 01:08:02,015 - I went into the Master bedroom. 1443 01:08:02,048 --> 01:08:06,853 And there's this golf club just sitting in the corner. 1444 01:08:06,886 --> 01:08:10,757 And part of me laughed inside. 1445 01:08:10,790 --> 01:08:12,625 - Bingo. - Yeah, bingo. 1446 01:08:12,659 --> 01:08:15,495 - It must have looked like a beautiful 1447 01:08:15,528 --> 01:08:17,163 big fat piece of evidence 1448 01:08:17,197 --> 01:08:20,166 that would help make the case into a slam dunk. 1449 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:21,501 - I literally looked at it for a minute. 1450 01:08:21,534 --> 01:08:23,570 I was like, seriously? 1451 01:08:23,603 --> 01:08:25,271 When I actually went up to the golf club 1452 01:08:25,305 --> 01:08:27,107 and photographed it and collected it, 1453 01:08:27,140 --> 01:08:28,541 there was cobwebs on it. 1454 01:08:28,575 --> 01:08:29,943 It had been there for a little while. 1455 01:08:30,043 --> 01:08:31,411 It wasn't overnight. 1456 01:08:31,444 --> 01:08:33,279 - This was one for the books, 1457 01:08:33,313 --> 01:08:37,050 a jailhouse snitch supported by actual evidence. 1458 01:08:37,050 --> 01:08:39,686 And Cappleman had one more surprise. 1459 01:08:39,719 --> 01:08:44,257 She called crime lab analyst and DNA expert, Jo Ellen Brown. 1460 01:08:44,290 --> 01:08:47,060 - I received or was able to develop 1461 01:08:47,060 --> 01:08:48,461 a complete DNA profile 1462 01:08:48,495 --> 01:08:52,732 from the, uh, club portion that hits the ball. 1463 01:08:52,766 --> 01:08:56,536 And that DNA profile matches Samira Frasch. 1464 01:08:56,569 --> 01:09:01,241 And the frequency of occurrence was 1 in 510 quintillion. 1465 01:09:02,375 --> 01:09:05,645 - And there it was, the story of Sandra Frisch's murder 1466 01:09:05,679 --> 01:09:08,181 wrapped up for the jury in a tidy package, 1467 01:09:08,214 --> 01:09:10,383 thanks to Dale Folsom. 1468 01:09:10,417 --> 01:09:14,020 But did the doctor really confess? 1469 01:09:14,020 --> 01:09:15,588 This was after all still the story 1470 01:09:15,622 --> 01:09:17,590 coming from a jailhouse snitch? 1471 01:09:17,624 --> 01:09:18,658 - This is a golf club that was-- 1472 01:09:18,692 --> 01:09:21,528 - And the golf club, was Samira's DNA on it? 1473 01:09:21,561 --> 01:09:24,631 Maybe not quite so obvious after all. 1474 01:09:24,664 --> 01:09:28,201 Defense attorneys we're about to take on Dale Folsom 1475 01:09:28,234 --> 01:09:29,936 and his story. 1476 01:09:30,036 --> 01:09:33,673 But they couldn't wait. 1477 01:09:33,707 --> 01:09:35,508 - Coming up... 1478 01:09:35,542 --> 01:09:38,178 The prosecutor's timeline on trial. 1479 01:09:38,211 --> 01:09:41,047 - The absence of wrinkling of the fingers or toes 1480 01:09:41,081 --> 01:09:43,717 speaks to the likelihood that she has been immersed 1481 01:09:43,750 --> 01:09:46,086 for a relatively short period of time. 1482 01:09:46,119 --> 01:09:49,122 - Testimony that Samira may have died later 1483 01:09:49,155 --> 01:09:51,491 than the prosecutor contends. 1484 01:09:51,524 --> 01:09:55,128 - The greatest probability is that she died after 8:00 AM. 1485 01:09:55,161 --> 01:09:59,265 - In other words, after Dr. Frasch had left the house. 1486 01:10:10,744 --> 01:10:12,679 - And now it was the defense's turn. 1487 01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,449 From the prosecution theory of how Samira died, 1488 01:10:16,483 --> 01:10:18,818 to the story of her husband's alleged confession, 1489 01:10:18,852 --> 01:10:20,387 to a jailhouse snitch 1490 01:10:20,420 --> 01:10:23,189 and the golf club found in their bedroom, 1491 01:10:23,223 --> 01:10:26,192 Adam Frasch was ready to fight back. 1492 01:10:26,226 --> 01:10:28,695 By his side, attorneys Clyde Taylor Jr. 1493 01:10:28,728 --> 01:10:31,431 and his son, Clyde III, 1494 01:10:31,464 --> 01:10:34,067 a high powered defense team reportedly paid by Frasch 1495 01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:36,703 in part from a life insurance payout 1496 01:10:36,736 --> 01:10:39,372 he received after Samira died. 1497 01:10:39,406 --> 01:10:42,442 - How did they pay for his defense in this trial? 1498 01:10:42,475 --> 01:10:43,743 - It's not relevant. 1499 01:10:43,777 --> 01:10:45,111 - Ah, is it? 1500 01:10:45,145 --> 01:10:47,847 Because insurance paid out, right, 1501 01:10:47,881 --> 01:10:50,984 which was very unusual in a case like this. 1502 01:10:51,017 --> 01:10:52,485 - He had-he had money. 1503 01:10:52,519 --> 01:10:54,287 You could see the pictures of his lifestyle. 1504 01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,057 He had money. He had assets. 1505 01:10:57,090 --> 01:10:59,059 - The Taylors started the defense with this moment 1506 01:10:59,092 --> 01:11:01,394 captured on video. 1507 01:11:01,428 --> 01:11:04,798 February 22, 2014, 8:00 AM, 1508 01:11:04,831 --> 01:11:08,335 Adam Frasch and his daughters leaving their gated community. 1509 01:11:08,368 --> 01:11:10,970 If Samira was killed after this, 1510 01:11:11,071 --> 01:11:13,406 Adam didn't do it. 1511 01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:16,710 - There's a huge problem with their timeline. 1512 01:11:16,743 --> 01:11:19,079 That's reasonable doubt. 1513 01:11:19,112 --> 01:11:21,081 - The timeline presented by the prosecution 1514 01:11:21,081 --> 01:11:23,249 was in fact quite vague. 1515 01:11:23,283 --> 01:11:25,652 The ME who did the autopsy testified 1516 01:11:25,685 --> 01:11:27,887 it was impossible to say, really, 1517 01:11:27,921 --> 01:11:29,956 how long Samira had been in the pool 1518 01:11:29,989 --> 01:11:31,925 before she was found. 1519 01:11:31,958 --> 01:11:35,228 That was a worry for prosecutor Georgia Cappleman. 1520 01:11:35,261 --> 01:11:40,367 - Usually, we get a window of maybe two to five hours 1521 01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:41,768 for a time of death. 1522 01:11:41,801 --> 01:11:44,004 So it's not a precise science. - Okay. 1523 01:11:44,104 --> 01:11:46,806 - But we weren't even able to do that in this case. 1524 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,876 - The defense aggressively leaped into the void, 1525 01:11:49,909 --> 01:11:53,246 arguing that evidence could establish a time of death. 1526 01:11:53,279 --> 01:11:56,282 - Personally performed about 3,000 forensic autopsies. 1527 01:11:56,316 --> 01:11:58,585 - They brought in their own forensic pathologist 1528 01:11:58,618 --> 01:12:00,820 Dr. Jonathan Arden. 1529 01:12:00,854 --> 01:12:03,223 Dr. Arden focused on three things to show 1530 01:12:03,256 --> 01:12:04,624 when Samira died. 1531 01:12:04,657 --> 01:12:08,328 First, rigor mortis had not set in. 1532 01:12:08,361 --> 01:12:11,831 Next, there was none of the telltale skin discoloration 1533 01:12:11,865 --> 01:12:13,299 that occurs soon after death 1534 01:12:13,333 --> 01:12:15,935 when blood settles due to gravity. 1535 01:12:15,969 --> 01:12:17,203 - What was the last factor? 1536 01:12:17,237 --> 01:12:19,372 - It was the wrinkling of the fingers and toes. 1537 01:12:19,406 --> 01:12:24,077 - Finally, Samira's fingertips and toes were not wrinkled 1538 01:12:24,077 --> 01:12:26,913 when she was found, not even a little. 1539 01:12:26,946 --> 01:12:30,350 - The absence of any such wrinkling of the fingers or toes 1540 01:12:30,383 --> 01:12:33,186 speaks to the likelihood that she has been immersed 1541 01:12:33,219 --> 01:12:35,588 for a relatively short period of time. 1542 01:12:35,622 --> 01:12:37,691 - Even if you take a shower, or a bath, 1543 01:12:37,724 --> 01:12:39,159 or jump in a pool, 1544 01:12:39,192 --> 01:12:41,327 sometimes within 20 or 30 minutes, 1545 01:12:41,361 --> 01:12:44,698 you've got wrinkling of the fingers and the toes. 1546 01:12:44,731 --> 01:12:46,433 - Even if you're dead? 1547 01:12:46,466 --> 01:12:47,701 - Period. 1548 01:12:47,734 --> 01:12:50,737 - No rigor mortis, no settling of blood, 1549 01:12:50,770 --> 01:12:52,739 no wrinkled skin. 1550 01:12:52,772 --> 01:12:55,408 It all pointed to the same thing. 1551 01:12:55,442 --> 01:12:58,445 - In my opinion, she was dead for a relatively short time 1552 01:12:58,478 --> 01:13:01,514 before she was discovered and removed from the water. 1553 01:13:01,548 --> 01:13:05,552 Would you say Mrs. Frasch died before or after 8:00 AM? 1554 01:13:06,786 --> 01:13:08,421 - I would say that the greater-- 1555 01:13:08,455 --> 01:13:12,192 the greatest probability is that she died after 8:00 AM. 1556 01:13:12,225 --> 01:13:14,594 - Do we know exactly what happened, who knows? 1557 01:13:14,627 --> 01:13:16,930 Um, the state really wasn't even very specific 1558 01:13:16,963 --> 01:13:18,365 with their theory. 1559 01:13:18,398 --> 01:13:22,435 - For the defense, this was a case of when, not what. 1560 01:13:22,469 --> 01:13:24,704 - It was after he left. 1561 01:13:24,738 --> 01:13:27,073 Therefore, everything else is irrelevant. 1562 01:13:28,408 --> 01:13:30,577 - But there was more. 1563 01:13:30,610 --> 01:13:32,545 After listening to the science, 1564 01:13:32,579 --> 01:13:34,914 the jury heard from an eyewitness. 1565 01:13:34,948 --> 01:13:36,649 - Decided to go for a little walk 1566 01:13:36,683 --> 01:13:37,851 around our neighborhood. 1567 01:13:37,884 --> 01:13:39,285 - Matt Christensen is the neighbor 1568 01:13:39,319 --> 01:13:40,787 who said he just happened to be walking 1569 01:13:40,820 --> 01:13:43,690 past the Frasch house that very morning. 1570 01:13:43,723 --> 01:13:46,760 He was a mild mannered measured witness, 1571 01:13:46,793 --> 01:13:49,562 but his testimony was explosive. 1572 01:13:49,596 --> 01:13:51,097 - What did you observe? 1573 01:13:51,131 --> 01:13:53,800 - I saw a woman, African-American, 1574 01:13:53,833 --> 01:13:57,570 tall, dark hair, 1575 01:13:57,604 --> 01:13:59,305 uh, thin. 1576 01:13:59,339 --> 01:14:00,507 - Is there any doubt in your mind 1577 01:14:00,540 --> 01:14:03,543 you saw a slender, tall, Black woman loading 1578 01:14:03,576 --> 01:14:06,046 something into a vehicle in that driveway? 1579 01:14:06,079 --> 01:14:09,082 - No. - Between 10:25 and 10:45 1580 01:14:09,115 --> 01:14:12,819 on the 22nd of February 2014? 1581 01:14:12,852 --> 01:14:14,120 - There's not. 1582 01:14:14,154 --> 01:14:16,322 - He was very specific on his time. 1583 01:14:16,356 --> 01:14:18,792 He and his daughter were walking by the house. 1584 01:14:18,825 --> 01:14:21,261 Uh, they often looked at the house because there were 1585 01:14:21,294 --> 01:14:23,563 all sorts of cars often parked there. 1586 01:14:23,596 --> 01:14:24,664 He looks down. 1587 01:14:24,698 --> 01:14:27,500 He sees a vehicle by the garage door. 1588 01:14:27,534 --> 01:14:30,437 And he sees a tall, slender Black female, 1589 01:14:30,470 --> 01:14:34,407 looked like a model, entering or exiting the car, 1590 01:14:34,441 --> 01:14:35,942 going toward the house. 1591 01:14:35,975 --> 01:14:38,144 - When they showed him a photo of Samira, 1592 01:14:38,178 --> 01:14:39,779 Christiansen couldn't say for sure 1593 01:14:39,813 --> 01:14:41,981 that was the woman he'd seen. 1594 01:14:42,082 --> 01:14:44,217 But if it was Samira in her driveway 1595 01:14:44,250 --> 01:14:46,219 around 10:30 that morning, 1596 01:14:46,252 --> 01:14:49,556 it would give Adam an airtight alibi. 1597 01:14:49,589 --> 01:14:52,459 - He couldn't specifically identify that person 1598 01:14:52,492 --> 01:14:54,194 as Mrs. Frasch. 1599 01:14:54,227 --> 01:14:58,164 But everything else about that description fits. 1600 01:14:58,198 --> 01:15:00,400 - This was a big deal. 1601 01:15:00,433 --> 01:15:02,469 And the prosecutors knew it. 1602 01:15:02,502 --> 01:15:05,038 This was a credible person, right? 1603 01:15:05,038 --> 01:15:07,040 - Yes... I think he was wrong. 1604 01:15:07,073 --> 01:15:08,108 I don't think he was lying. 1605 01:15:08,141 --> 01:15:09,175 - Of course, you think he's wrong. 1606 01:15:09,209 --> 01:15:10,543 But he-he thought he was right. 1607 01:15:10,577 --> 01:15:13,046 He was pretty certain of it. - He did, yes, he was. 1608 01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,950 - The neighbor had credibility, 1609 01:15:17,050 --> 01:15:18,351 not a quality, said the defense, 1610 01:15:18,385 --> 01:15:20,854 possessed by Adam Frasch's cellmate Dale Folsom, 1611 01:15:20,887 --> 01:15:22,789 the jailhouse snitch. 1612 01:15:22,822 --> 01:15:25,492 If his snitch is the witness the prosecutor hates to love, 1613 01:15:25,525 --> 01:15:28,962 he's also a witness the defense loves to hate. 1614 01:15:29,062 --> 01:15:30,730 - We love snitches, don't we? 1615 01:15:30,764 --> 01:15:32,932 Tell me what you know about this particular one. 1616 01:15:32,966 --> 01:15:34,534 - Well, he's a career criminal 1617 01:15:34,567 --> 01:15:39,072 started with his first convictions back in about 1990. 1618 01:15:39,072 --> 01:15:41,808 - In court, Attorney Taylor, the father, 1619 01:15:41,841 --> 01:15:43,777 went right after Folsom. 1620 01:15:43,810 --> 01:15:46,479 He did not spare the rod. 1621 01:15:46,513 --> 01:15:51,584 - It's my understanding we've got, was it 4 or 40, 1622 01:15:51,618 --> 01:15:53,687 prior felony convictions. 1623 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:54,921 - 40. 4-0. 1624 01:15:54,954 --> 01:15:56,489 - 40? - Yes, sir. 1625 01:15:56,523 --> 01:15:58,091 - Do you have any pending charges? 1626 01:15:58,091 --> 01:15:59,159 - Have one. 1627 01:15:59,192 --> 01:16:00,827 - What is that pending charge? 1628 01:16:00,860 --> 01:16:02,262 - Possession of methamphetamine. 1629 01:16:02,295 --> 01:16:03,797 I've done almost every drug there is, sir. 1630 01:16:03,830 --> 01:16:05,632 I've been a drug addict since I was nine years old. 1631 01:16:05,665 --> 01:16:07,167 So I've done them all just about-- 1632 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:08,702 - Give me a break. - Hmm... 1633 01:16:08,735 --> 01:16:11,037 - This guy was outrageous. 1634 01:16:11,037 --> 01:16:12,272 - What was more, 1635 01:16:12,305 --> 01:16:16,042 Folsom had an arrangement with prosecutors. 1636 01:16:16,076 --> 01:16:18,778 He was released from jail on probation 1637 01:16:18,812 --> 01:16:21,448 in exchange for his testimony about Frasch. 1638 01:16:21,481 --> 01:16:25,785 And Taylor made sure the jury knew all about that. 1639 01:16:25,819 --> 01:16:27,320 - You can do anything to stay out 1640 01:16:27,354 --> 01:16:31,057 and keep yourself out of jail, isn't that true? 1641 01:16:31,057 --> 01:16:32,225 - Most people would. 1642 01:16:32,258 --> 01:16:34,060 - Mean anything to you to raise your right hand 1643 01:16:34,060 --> 01:16:35,462 and swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, 1644 01:16:35,495 --> 01:16:37,664 and nothing but the truth, so help you God. 1645 01:16:37,697 --> 01:16:39,833 - Of course, he does, have a degree in theology, 1646 01:16:39,866 --> 01:16:41,067 going to Bible college. 1647 01:16:41,067 --> 01:16:42,969 - And that's what you do you're a truthful guy, right? 1648 01:16:43,069 --> 01:16:45,071 - Most of the time, I try to be. 1649 01:16:45,071 --> 01:16:46,706 - When you're writing bad checks, 1650 01:16:46,740 --> 01:16:50,443 stealing from people and doing drugs? 1651 01:16:50,477 --> 01:16:52,579 - That's all I've got, Judge. 1652 01:16:52,612 --> 01:16:55,315 - The defense may have destroyed the messenger. 1653 01:16:55,348 --> 01:16:57,784 But they still had to deal with his message. 1654 01:16:57,817 --> 01:17:00,120 Folsom's story about that golf club 1655 01:17:00,153 --> 01:17:02,589 with Samira's DNA on it, 1656 01:17:02,622 --> 01:17:05,692 completely meaningless, said Taylor. 1657 01:17:05,725 --> 01:17:08,762 That golf club belonged to Samira. 1658 01:17:08,795 --> 01:17:11,264 Of course, her DNA would be on it. 1659 01:17:11,297 --> 01:17:14,034 - They say, well, she's got DNA on it. 1660 01:17:14,067 --> 01:17:17,637 Anybody that plays golf knows if you don't have head covers 1661 01:17:17,671 --> 01:17:22,108 you pull your club out of the bag with your hands. 1662 01:17:22,142 --> 01:17:23,276 And you grab the head-- 1663 01:17:23,309 --> 01:17:24,878 - Is the blood, and hair, and things like on that? 1664 01:17:24,911 --> 01:17:26,713 - No, no, no, no. 1665 01:17:26,746 --> 01:17:29,082 - Just touch DNA. - Correct. 1666 01:17:29,115 --> 01:17:30,550 Correct. 1667 01:17:30,583 --> 01:17:32,786 How convenient was that? 1668 01:17:32,819 --> 01:17:35,388 - So convenient, according to the defense 1669 01:17:35,422 --> 01:17:37,924 that it was downright suspicious. 1670 01:17:37,957 --> 01:17:41,361 - Lo and behold, here comes Folsom. 1671 01:17:41,394 --> 01:17:42,696 He's got his story. 1672 01:17:42,729 --> 01:17:44,931 And the law enforcement guys go out there. 1673 01:17:44,964 --> 01:17:46,132 And what do they find? 1674 01:17:46,166 --> 01:17:47,834 They find this magic golf club. 1675 01:17:47,867 --> 01:17:49,936 - But you truly-- - Planted evidence, 1676 01:17:49,969 --> 01:17:52,372 no question in my mind. 1677 01:17:52,405 --> 01:17:54,974 - Investigators emphatically denied any wrongdoing 1678 01:17:55,075 --> 01:17:56,576 over the golf club. 1679 01:17:56,609 --> 01:17:58,545 But in the end, all that hoo-ha about the club 1680 01:17:58,578 --> 01:18:01,214 was quite possibly a total red herring, 1681 01:18:01,247 --> 01:18:04,584 because the state's own medical examiner 1682 01:18:04,617 --> 01:18:08,455 testified that Samira's injuries were not caused 1683 01:18:08,488 --> 01:18:10,023 by any golf club. 1684 01:18:10,023 --> 01:18:12,759 - Do you think that, that purple golf club 1685 01:18:12,792 --> 01:18:15,228 could have been responsible for the injuries 1686 01:18:15,261 --> 01:18:17,197 that Mrs. Frasch received? 1687 01:18:17,230 --> 01:18:18,631 - I don't think so. 1688 01:18:18,665 --> 01:18:21,768 The pattern that she had was more diffuse. 1689 01:18:21,801 --> 01:18:22,869 - And in your opinion, 1690 01:18:22,902 --> 01:18:25,171 are the injuries more consistent with a fist 1691 01:18:25,205 --> 01:18:27,240 than a golf club being the instrument 1692 01:18:27,273 --> 01:18:28,808 used to inflict them? 1693 01:18:28,842 --> 01:18:29,909 - Yes. 1694 01:18:29,943 --> 01:18:31,478 - So that was that. 1695 01:18:31,511 --> 01:18:35,081 The state's case had taken some very big hits. 1696 01:18:35,115 --> 01:18:37,550 So it was no time for grand gestures 1697 01:18:37,584 --> 01:18:40,053 like defendant testimony. 1698 01:18:40,053 --> 01:18:43,256 - You did not desire to testify, is that correct? 1699 01:18:43,289 --> 01:18:44,424 - Yes, sir. 1700 01:18:44,457 --> 01:18:46,626 - Dr. Frasch remained mum. 1701 01:18:46,659 --> 01:18:48,862 And it was with an air of confidence 1702 01:18:48,895 --> 01:18:50,530 that the defense rested. 1703 01:18:50,563 --> 01:18:51,564 - Judge, at this time, 1704 01:18:51,598 --> 01:18:53,667 the defense would announce rest. 1705 01:18:53,700 --> 01:18:57,303 - Unaware that in a case full of surprises, 1706 01:18:57,337 --> 01:19:00,173 there was one more to come. 1707 01:19:00,206 --> 01:19:01,775 - Coming up... 1708 01:19:01,808 --> 01:19:05,011 the first surprise, the speed of the verdict. 1709 01:19:05,011 --> 01:19:06,046 - When they came back quick, 1710 01:19:06,079 --> 01:19:08,515 I thought it was going to be good news. 1711 01:19:08,548 --> 01:19:10,150 - The second surprise, 1712 01:19:10,183 --> 01:19:14,187 a new revelation that could turn the case upside down. 1713 01:19:14,220 --> 01:19:16,690 - That was absolutely stunning. 1714 01:19:16,723 --> 01:19:19,125 And we were, "What are they talking about?" 1715 01:19:30,904 --> 01:19:31,471 - The trial of Adam Frasch 1716 01:19:32,172 --> 01:19:34,274 was a closely contested affair, 1717 01:19:34,307 --> 01:19:37,043 the verdict very much in the balance. 1718 01:19:37,043 --> 01:19:38,578 The lawyers had one more chance 1719 01:19:38,611 --> 01:19:41,648 to make their case in closing arguments. 1720 01:19:41,681 --> 01:19:43,817 Client Taylor III would take a seat 1721 01:19:43,850 --> 01:19:47,220 and let his father speak to the jury. 1722 01:19:47,253 --> 01:19:49,889 - He's one of those guys that thinks closing argument 1723 01:19:49,923 --> 01:19:52,092 is where you win or lose a case. 1724 01:19:52,125 --> 01:19:54,627 - We don't convict people, 1725 01:19:54,661 --> 01:19:57,697 because a crime was horrible. 1726 01:19:57,731 --> 01:20:00,600 We don't convict people because they have a lot of money. 1727 01:20:02,035 --> 01:20:05,505 We don't convict people on speculation. 1728 01:20:05,538 --> 01:20:07,974 - Taylor returned to the medical evidence, 1729 01:20:08,008 --> 01:20:12,312 his argument that Samira died after her husband left home. 1730 01:20:12,345 --> 01:20:15,115 - What proof do we have that she was in the pool 1731 01:20:15,148 --> 01:20:17,183 before 8:00 AM? 1732 01:20:17,217 --> 01:20:21,354 No competent evidence of that, none. 1733 01:20:21,388 --> 01:20:24,391 Scientific evidence says no. 1734 01:20:24,424 --> 01:20:27,761 The defendant has not been proven guilty in this case. 1735 01:20:27,794 --> 01:20:29,095 - It did check out. 1736 01:20:29,129 --> 01:20:31,765 - Prosecutor Georgia Cappleman had the last word. 1737 01:20:31,798 --> 01:20:36,269 - All of the evidence points not to a mystery killer 1738 01:20:36,302 --> 01:20:39,205 but to this defendant. 1739 01:20:39,239 --> 01:20:41,408 This was a personal crime, 1740 01:20:41,441 --> 01:20:45,612 and who had the motive to kill this woman? 1741 01:20:45,645 --> 01:20:47,113 Only one person. 1742 01:20:47,147 --> 01:20:48,748 - Cappleman spoke to the evidence 1743 01:20:48,782 --> 01:20:51,584 but passions were not far from the surface. 1744 01:20:51,618 --> 01:20:55,055 - And as she lay there on the concrete 1745 01:20:55,088 --> 01:20:56,723 fighting for her life, 1746 01:20:56,756 --> 01:21:01,661 the man that she trusted to make her dreams come true 1747 01:21:01,695 --> 01:21:03,563 put her body in that pool. 1748 01:21:03,596 --> 01:21:06,499 Please render a verdict of guilty as charged. 1749 01:21:07,834 --> 01:21:11,638 - Then there was nothing left to do but wait. 1750 01:21:11,671 --> 01:21:14,974 - It's always troublesome when the jury goes out. 1751 01:21:15,075 --> 01:21:18,478 It's a sick feeling until you get your answer. 1752 01:21:18,511 --> 01:21:20,180 - How worried was she? 1753 01:21:20,213 --> 01:21:21,114 - Pretty worried. 1754 01:21:21,147 --> 01:21:23,249 I-I mean, the neighbor 1755 01:21:23,283 --> 01:21:26,453 and the time of death bothered her. 1756 01:21:26,486 --> 01:21:29,222 Both sides settled in for a long wait. 1757 01:21:29,255 --> 01:21:32,325 But just 90 minutes into deliberations, 1758 01:21:32,359 --> 01:21:33,827 word of a verdict. 1759 01:21:33,860 --> 01:21:36,229 - I thought they would be out for a while. 1760 01:21:36,262 --> 01:21:37,731 Um, and when they came back quick, 1761 01:21:37,764 --> 01:21:41,101 I thought it was going to be good news. 1762 01:21:41,134 --> 01:21:42,435 - I thought just the opposite. 1763 01:21:42,469 --> 01:21:44,604 Well, I thought they'd be out for a while. 1764 01:21:44,637 --> 01:21:45,972 But when they came back that quick, 1765 01:21:46,006 --> 01:21:47,741 I figured it was bad news. 1766 01:21:47,774 --> 01:21:50,110 - As they all waited for the words, 1767 01:21:50,110 --> 01:21:52,879 faces were taut, anxious. 1768 01:21:52,912 --> 01:21:55,148 - State of Florida versus Adam Frasch, 1769 01:21:55,181 --> 01:21:58,184 we the jury find as follows as the indictment, 1770 01:21:58,218 --> 01:22:01,287 the defendant is guilty of first degree murder. 1771 01:22:01,321 --> 01:22:02,922 - Guilty. 1772 01:22:02,956 --> 01:22:06,059 Frasch stared blankly then dropped his head 1773 01:22:06,059 --> 01:22:07,727 under the weight of the verdict. 1774 01:22:07,761 --> 01:22:09,963 - How did Dr. Frasch take it? 1775 01:22:10,063 --> 01:22:11,197 - Hard. 1776 01:22:11,231 --> 01:22:13,233 - He was believing in the jury system. 1777 01:22:13,266 --> 01:22:16,336 - On the prosecution side, gratitude. 1778 01:22:16,369 --> 01:22:18,838 - I was really happy with the verdict, 1779 01:22:18,872 --> 01:22:21,107 was the culmination of a lot of hard work. 1780 01:22:21,141 --> 01:22:22,409 - Be seated. 1781 01:22:22,442 --> 01:22:24,744 - But was that the final word? 1782 01:22:24,778 --> 01:22:27,714 After the verdict, a surprise. 1783 01:22:27,747 --> 01:22:30,517 Before the judge delivered the mandatory sentence, 1784 01:22:30,550 --> 01:22:32,318 life in prison, no parole. 1785 01:22:32,352 --> 01:22:34,454 - For us, the Samira family-- 1786 01:22:34,487 --> 01:22:37,257 - Cappleman read a letter from Samira's mother 1787 01:22:37,290 --> 01:22:39,426 written in Madagascar. 1788 01:22:39,459 --> 01:22:42,362 This was not a typical victim impact statement. 1789 01:22:42,395 --> 01:22:46,733 It included something that sounded a lot like evidence. 1790 01:22:46,766 --> 01:22:49,402 - According to Sam Frasch who had noticed 1791 01:22:49,436 --> 01:22:52,238 the presence of someone prowling in their home 1792 01:22:52,272 --> 01:22:54,007 nights before his death. 1793 01:22:54,107 --> 01:22:55,909 - A prowler? 1794 01:22:55,942 --> 01:22:58,978 The jury never heard about any prowler. 1795 01:22:59,012 --> 01:23:02,782 And said Defense Attorney Taylor, neither did he. 1796 01:23:02,816 --> 01:23:05,585 - That was absolutely stunning. 1797 01:23:05,618 --> 01:23:08,221 And we were, did she just read-- 1798 01:23:08,254 --> 01:23:10,623 Was there something? What are they talking about? 1799 01:23:10,657 --> 01:23:14,194 Because the defense never had been advised 1800 01:23:14,227 --> 01:23:16,763 that there may have been a prowler in the home 1801 01:23:16,796 --> 01:23:18,932 within a day or two of the death. 1802 01:23:18,965 --> 01:23:21,735 It has to be disclosed under the law. 1803 01:23:21,768 --> 01:23:24,471 - I think that's the best we could do on the translation. 1804 01:23:24,504 --> 01:23:26,306 - Prosecutor Cappleman countered that 1805 01:23:26,339 --> 01:23:28,141 she didn't withhold anything. 1806 01:23:28,174 --> 01:23:29,676 The letter was written in French 1807 01:23:29,709 --> 01:23:31,144 and set out for translation. 1808 01:23:31,177 --> 01:23:32,846 She only learned what was in it 1809 01:23:32,879 --> 01:23:35,815 when she read the letter aloud in court. 1810 01:23:35,849 --> 01:23:38,251 As for Adam Frasch, he will spend 1811 01:23:38,284 --> 01:23:42,155 the rest of his days behind bars. 1812 01:23:42,188 --> 01:23:46,459 - When you understood that you were going away for life, 1813 01:23:46,493 --> 01:23:48,094 what is that like? 1814 01:23:48,128 --> 01:23:50,130 - I prayed to God, you know, you say you don't give 1815 01:23:50,163 --> 01:23:51,464 anything more than I can handle. 1816 01:23:51,498 --> 01:23:55,602 But this is almost more than I can handle. 1817 01:23:55,635 --> 01:23:58,004 - So, uh, let me just ask you directly, 1818 01:23:58,104 --> 01:23:59,439 did you kill your wife? 1819 01:23:59,472 --> 01:24:01,241 - No. 1820 01:24:01,274 --> 01:24:04,144 I would never harm my wife, never even, you know-- 1821 01:24:04,177 --> 01:24:06,713 I loved her or anything in this world. 1822 01:24:06,746 --> 01:24:08,548 - You loved a lot of women in your life? 1823 01:24:08,581 --> 01:24:09,749 - Not really. 1824 01:24:09,783 --> 01:24:11,651 She was my first true love. 1825 01:24:11,685 --> 01:24:12,719 - Love of your life? 1826 01:24:12,752 --> 01:24:14,354 - Love of my life. 1827 01:24:14,387 --> 01:24:17,557 - Frasch is unwavering about that, 1828 01:24:17,590 --> 01:24:19,626 a convicted murderer who still sang 1829 01:24:19,659 --> 01:24:22,595 he is innocent and misunderstood. 1830 01:24:23,596 --> 01:24:24,698 - I'm not saying I'm perfect. 1831 01:24:24,731 --> 01:24:27,400 But, you know, I'm trying to live a good life, 1832 01:24:27,434 --> 01:24:31,471 and help people, and, um, and enjoy life. 1833 01:24:36,643 --> 01:24:39,245 - As for those two little girls who Samira pampered, 1834 01:24:39,279 --> 01:24:41,748 and promoted, and loved, 1835 01:24:41,781 --> 01:24:44,084 they went to live with Adam Frasch's brother 1836 01:24:44,117 --> 01:24:46,252 in a state far away, 1837 01:24:46,286 --> 01:24:49,689 an existence that was untroubled by conflict 1838 01:24:49,723 --> 01:24:53,259 and no longer over the top. 1839 01:24:53,293 --> 01:24:55,862 - Her children are her legacy. 1840 01:24:55,895 --> 01:24:59,099 And I hope one day to have the opportunity to tell them 1841 01:24:59,099 --> 01:25:03,169 that they had a great mother. 1842 01:25:03,203 --> 01:25:04,838 - See that mummy? 1843 01:25:04,871 --> 01:25:06,072 Look at that. 1844 01:25:06,106 --> 01:25:09,509 - Samira's YouTube videos are still online, of course, 1845 01:25:09,542 --> 01:25:13,313 unkillable artifacts of a broken dream 1846 01:25:13,346 --> 01:25:15,582 and a life that was passionate, 1847 01:25:15,615 --> 01:25:19,119 and beguiling, and brief. 1848 01:25:22,122 --> 01:25:25,592 - That's all for this edition of "Dateline: Secrets Uncovered". 1849 01:25:25,625 --> 01:25:28,061 I'm Kate Snow. Thank you for watching.