1 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:07,607 - I'm Kate Snow. 2 00:00:08,508 --> 00:00:12,946 And this is "Dateline: Secrets Uncovered." 3 00:00:12,979 --> 00:00:16,149 It was one woman's battle with a shadowy church, 4 00:00:16,182 --> 00:00:18,318 where teenage girls were ordered to marry 5 00:00:18,351 --> 00:00:21,955 a man old enough to be their grandfather. 6 00:00:21,988 --> 00:00:27,327 - He was 85, and I was 19. I was horrified. 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,264 - A place where they had no voice and no choice. 8 00:00:31,297 --> 00:00:33,833 - I finally just said, okay, 9 00:00:33,867 --> 00:00:35,835 with tears streaming down my face. 10 00:00:35,869 --> 00:00:37,704 - But Rebecca resisted, 11 00:00:37,737 --> 00:00:40,674 defying the leader who ruled them all. 12 00:00:40,707 --> 00:00:43,910 He said, you will be destroyed in the flesh. 13 00:00:43,943 --> 00:00:45,779 - Instead, she got out, 14 00:00:45,812 --> 00:00:49,916 and helped uncover the truth about this powerful prophet. 15 00:00:49,949 --> 00:00:53,119 - This is a horrible thing to listen to. 16 00:00:53,153 --> 00:00:55,555 - A sinister secret caught on tape. 17 00:01:01,094 --> 00:01:03,063 - It will just rock you. 18 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:05,632 - For too long, he eluded the law. 19 00:01:05,665 --> 00:01:08,068 Could she bring him down? 20 00:01:08,068 --> 00:01:09,336 - I looked him square in the eyes 21 00:01:09,369 --> 00:01:11,604 as if to say, we meet again. 22 00:01:11,638 --> 00:01:19,813 ** 23 00:01:19,846 --> 00:01:23,183 - Hello. And welcome to "Dateline: Secrets Uncovered." 24 00:01:23,216 --> 00:01:26,186 It is a story of defiance and danger. 25 00:01:26,219 --> 00:01:29,956 A devout young woman raised in a polygamous religious sect, 26 00:01:29,989 --> 00:01:32,292 risked everything to escape. 27 00:01:32,325 --> 00:01:35,261 Doing so meant leaving her loved ones behind. 28 00:01:35,295 --> 00:01:38,698 But the only thing stronger than those family ties-- 29 00:01:38,732 --> 00:01:40,867 the will to reclaim her life 30 00:01:40,900 --> 00:01:42,936 and expose the ugly secrets 31 00:01:42,969 --> 00:01:45,772 of a predator posing as a prophet. 32 00:01:45,805 --> 00:01:49,209 Here's Keith Morrison with "Unbreakable." 33 00:01:49,242 --> 00:02:00,053 ** 34 00:02:00,053 --> 00:02:02,622 - It's a long way home, 35 00:02:02,655 --> 00:02:03,890 back to that place tucked away 36 00:02:03,923 --> 00:02:06,059 beneath the towering red cliffs 37 00:02:06,059 --> 00:02:08,628 that join Utah to Arizona. 38 00:02:08,661 --> 00:02:12,465 The place she lived in that other lifetime. 39 00:02:12,499 --> 00:02:15,335 - It's tough to be back. 40 00:02:15,368 --> 00:02:19,973 Brings up a lot of things that are just still really raw. 41 00:02:22,275 --> 00:02:25,078 - Then when she was known as Sister Becky, 42 00:02:25,078 --> 00:02:27,681 and wore those colorful prairie dresses, 43 00:02:27,714 --> 00:02:30,283 and piled up her long and braided hair, 44 00:02:30,316 --> 00:02:34,921 and shared a husband with more than 60 other women. 45 00:02:34,954 --> 00:02:37,557 It was here in this place they call Short Creek 46 00:02:37,590 --> 00:02:41,761 or just The Creek. Here, where it happened. 47 00:02:41,795 --> 00:02:45,799 - A lot of it is the same. And a lot of it has changed. 48 00:02:45,832 --> 00:02:50,637 And I'm not the same person that I was either. 49 00:02:50,670 --> 00:02:53,139 - Her name is Rebecca Musser. 50 00:02:53,173 --> 00:02:56,476 She has come back to The Creek for the first time in years, 51 00:02:56,509 --> 00:03:01,047 hoping to find family or friends she left behind. 52 00:03:01,081 --> 00:03:04,384 Anyone, that is, who might actually speak to her-- 53 00:03:04,417 --> 00:03:08,054 given what she did, given what she caused. 54 00:03:08,088 --> 00:03:12,258 ** 55 00:03:12,292 --> 00:03:17,464 Oh, yeah, she's the one. 56 00:03:17,497 --> 00:03:20,967 You've heard perhaps about the strange religious leader, 57 00:03:21,067 --> 00:03:24,838 his shocking crimes, his dramatic undoing. 58 00:03:24,871 --> 00:03:28,408 Here is the incredible behind the headlines story. 59 00:03:28,441 --> 00:03:30,877 The story of the woman in red 60 00:03:30,910 --> 00:03:34,280 versus one of the FBI'S most notorious fugitives. 61 00:03:34,314 --> 00:03:36,282 The unlikeliest soldier, 62 00:03:36,316 --> 00:03:39,419 who went to war with a prophet and said-- 63 00:03:39,452 --> 00:03:41,988 - If that is holy, and that is divine, 64 00:03:42,088 --> 00:03:46,126 and that is heaven, I will take hell. 65 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:48,695 - Short Creek is actually the two little towns 66 00:03:48,728 --> 00:03:52,232 of Hildale, Utah and Colorado City, Arizona. 67 00:03:52,265 --> 00:03:55,268 The mountain that rises above them is called Canaan. 68 00:03:55,301 --> 00:03:58,738 Here lived some 8,000 souls. 69 00:03:58,772 --> 00:04:03,777 The core, the center of what they call "the work." 70 00:04:03,810 --> 00:04:06,312 Most people know it as the FLDS, 71 00:04:06,346 --> 00:04:09,649 Fundamentalist Church of Latter-day Saints. 72 00:04:09,683 --> 00:04:11,751 Uh, no, not LDS. 73 00:04:11,785 --> 00:04:15,188 Regular Mormons were considered apostates around here, 74 00:04:15,221 --> 00:04:17,223 and doomed for eternity 75 00:04:17,257 --> 00:04:19,559 for the perceived sin of having rejected 76 00:04:19,592 --> 00:04:24,664 fundamentalist tenets like plural marriage, polygamy-- 77 00:04:24,698 --> 00:04:28,301 the life into which Becky Musser was born. 78 00:04:28,335 --> 00:04:30,904 - We were taught, you should want to be a plural wife 79 00:04:30,937 --> 00:04:32,706 because it was more holy. 80 00:04:32,739 --> 00:04:34,941 You were fulfilling this higher law 81 00:04:34,974 --> 00:04:37,977 by being a plural wife. 82 00:04:38,078 --> 00:04:43,216 - Though, not just allowed-- required by God. 83 00:04:43,249 --> 00:04:46,319 - Their measure of success is for the women 84 00:04:46,353 --> 00:04:50,256 to marry a good faithful priesthood man, 85 00:04:50,290 --> 00:04:53,560 where she brings forth as many children as she can. 86 00:04:53,593 --> 00:04:55,729 Because the more children he has, 87 00:04:55,762 --> 00:04:58,732 the larger of a kingdom he has. 88 00:04:58,765 --> 00:05:00,633 - Not exactly mainstream belief 89 00:05:00,667 --> 00:05:03,470 or even legal, for that matter. 90 00:05:03,503 --> 00:05:05,472 But this is after all, America, 91 00:05:05,505 --> 00:05:07,774 blessed with a constitution that quite pointedly, 92 00:05:07,807 --> 00:05:11,611 shelters religious freedoms in all their stunning variety. 93 00:05:14,114 --> 00:05:17,384 Becky's father, Lloyd Wall, a convert to the work, 94 00:05:17,417 --> 00:05:20,787 was a college-educated engineer who lived in Salt Lake City 95 00:05:20,820 --> 00:05:24,624 and designed equipment for the space shuttle. 96 00:05:24,657 --> 00:05:27,327 In public, he was very successful. 97 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,695 But in private... 98 00:05:28,728 --> 00:05:31,297 In private, Lloyd was fully aware as they all were 99 00:05:31,331 --> 00:05:32,899 that polygamy was illegal. 100 00:05:32,932 --> 00:05:35,335 So he did all he could to keep his huge 101 00:05:35,368 --> 00:05:37,971 and growing family secret. 102 00:05:38,071 --> 00:05:40,674 - My father had 25 children total. 103 00:05:40,707 --> 00:05:41,875 Nine from his first wife, 104 00:05:41,908 --> 00:05:45,679 14 from his second wife, and two from his third. 105 00:05:45,712 --> 00:05:47,947 - Did you feel different from people around you? 106 00:05:47,981 --> 00:05:49,816 - They told us that we were different 107 00:05:49,849 --> 00:05:51,284 from the rest of the world. - Your parents did? 108 00:05:51,317 --> 00:05:53,186 - Yes. And our parents taught us 109 00:05:53,219 --> 00:05:55,188 that we needed to be more obedient 110 00:05:55,221 --> 00:05:57,791 because we had this higher way of life. 111 00:05:57,824 --> 00:06:01,461 And so they just created a tremendous gap 112 00:06:01,494 --> 00:06:04,164 between us versus them, 113 00:06:04,197 --> 00:06:09,269 and terrified us of the outside world. 114 00:06:09,302 --> 00:06:11,438 - There was a reason for that primal fear 115 00:06:11,471 --> 00:06:15,642 buried deep in the unforgotten and the DNA of the FLDS, 116 00:06:15,675 --> 00:06:17,344 the raid. 117 00:06:17,377 --> 00:06:20,046 It was July 26, 1953, 118 00:06:20,046 --> 00:06:22,048 the Governor of Arizona ordered the arrest 119 00:06:22,048 --> 00:06:24,851 of every single man in Short Creek. 120 00:06:24,884 --> 00:06:26,453 And more than 250 children 121 00:06:26,486 --> 00:06:28,555 with their mothers were carted away. 122 00:06:28,588 --> 00:06:31,825 Some of those families weren't reunited for years. 123 00:06:31,858 --> 00:06:34,461 Rebecca, like every FLDS child, 124 00:06:34,494 --> 00:06:37,364 heard the story over and over again. 125 00:06:37,397 --> 00:06:39,666 From the time she was old enough to listen 126 00:06:39,699 --> 00:06:43,203 about the day they remembered as their most terrible 127 00:06:43,236 --> 00:06:47,073 and about those awful things the outside world did, 128 00:06:47,107 --> 00:06:49,109 when the policemen came. 129 00:06:51,144 --> 00:06:54,481 And so they were watchful, wary of outsiders, 130 00:06:54,514 --> 00:06:56,383 who lived around their crowded split level 131 00:06:56,416 --> 00:06:59,085 here in the Salt Lake City suburbs. 132 00:06:59,085 --> 00:07:00,820 - My dad's first wife 133 00:07:00,854 --> 00:07:02,922 and her children lived in the top floor. 134 00:07:03,023 --> 00:07:05,091 And my mother, the second wife, and her children 135 00:07:05,125 --> 00:07:08,862 lived in the downstairs-- the bottom basement floor. 136 00:07:08,895 --> 00:07:11,164 - How did the two wives get along? 137 00:07:11,197 --> 00:07:13,366 - Not so good. - No. 138 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:18,238 - No. There was a tremendous amount of jealousy 139 00:07:18,271 --> 00:07:21,541 from my father's first wife. 140 00:07:21,574 --> 00:07:24,477 - Nevertheless, said Rebecca, she practiced the work, 141 00:07:24,511 --> 00:07:26,279 and studied the holy books, 142 00:07:26,312 --> 00:07:28,648 and put her trust and faith in the church 143 00:07:28,682 --> 00:07:31,151 and its prophet, Rulon Jeffs. 144 00:07:31,184 --> 00:07:33,219 To Rebecca, Uncle Rulon, 145 00:07:33,253 --> 00:07:36,256 who ruled the church from his home here in Salt Lake, 146 00:07:36,289 --> 00:07:38,324 was more than just a man. 147 00:07:38,358 --> 00:07:41,194 By then he had 10 wives and over 50 children. 148 00:07:41,227 --> 00:07:44,164 And as little Becky was taught to believe, 149 00:07:44,197 --> 00:07:47,534 Rulon spoke directly with God. 150 00:07:47,567 --> 00:07:49,602 - He was our connection to the Divine. 151 00:07:49,636 --> 00:07:52,939 And so, yes, I did look up to him. 152 00:07:52,972 --> 00:07:54,074 - So of course, Rebecca, 153 00:07:54,074 --> 00:07:55,875 along with everyone else in the FLDS, 154 00:07:55,909 --> 00:07:58,345 obeyed the prophet's every directive. 155 00:07:58,378 --> 00:08:02,015 To obey was the key to salvation. 156 00:08:02,048 --> 00:08:06,720 - Obedience is the only, only act that you can perform. 157 00:08:06,753 --> 00:08:10,156 And anything otherwise is damnation. 158 00:08:10,190 --> 00:08:13,026 - But as Rebecca entered her teens, 159 00:08:13,026 --> 00:08:14,661 change was in the air. 160 00:08:14,694 --> 00:08:17,163 Behind Uncle Rulon's gentle smile, 161 00:08:17,197 --> 00:08:20,734 rules hardened, control tightened. 162 00:08:20,767 --> 00:08:24,037 Not just for Rebecca, of course, for all of them. 163 00:08:24,070 --> 00:08:27,040 This was her childhood friend, Andrew Chatwin. 164 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,842 - Rulon Jeffs started teaching, 165 00:08:28,875 --> 00:08:32,045 you don't have a choice anymore. 166 00:08:32,045 --> 00:08:34,280 You have to be perfectly obedient. 167 00:08:34,314 --> 00:08:36,216 You were ordered to donate your time, 168 00:08:36,249 --> 00:08:38,385 ordered to donate your car, 169 00:08:38,418 --> 00:08:42,088 or make sacrifices that you normally wouldn't do 170 00:08:42,122 --> 00:08:43,890 because it was hurting your family. 171 00:08:43,923 --> 00:08:46,693 - It was like more autocratic, dictatorial? 172 00:08:46,726 --> 00:08:48,161 - Yeah. Very dictatorial. 173 00:08:48,194 --> 00:08:49,629 A lot of the members were going around 174 00:08:49,662 --> 00:08:52,432 and putting everybody on the spot constantly. 175 00:08:52,465 --> 00:08:56,069 They would say, well, are you for him or against him? 176 00:08:56,069 --> 00:08:59,072 - Rebecca's father was very much for the prophet. 177 00:08:59,072 --> 00:09:01,474 He enrolled his children, including Becky, 178 00:09:01,508 --> 00:09:04,377 in Uncle Rulon's special FLDS school 179 00:09:04,411 --> 00:09:07,013 called the Alta Academy. 180 00:09:07,013 --> 00:09:08,915 And there the elements of an explosion 181 00:09:09,015 --> 00:09:10,550 were mixed together. 182 00:09:10,583 --> 00:09:15,255 All that remained was to light the fuse. 183 00:09:15,288 --> 00:09:19,159 - Coming up, the Principal of Alta Academy, 184 00:09:19,192 --> 00:09:21,327 Rulon's son, Warren Jeffs. 185 00:09:21,361 --> 00:09:25,131 A man who carried out doctrine with discipline. 186 00:09:25,165 --> 00:09:26,332 - He gave me one beating. 187 00:09:26,366 --> 00:09:27,767 And it swelled up like a half inch 188 00:09:27,801 --> 00:09:28,735 on the back of my legs. 189 00:09:28,768 --> 00:09:31,905 I couldn't sit down very good for a week. 190 00:09:31,938 --> 00:09:34,741 - When Dateline: Secrets Uncovered continues. 191 00:09:44,651 --> 00:09:46,886 - It's torn down now. 192 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:51,057 But in 2013, this building was still standing. 193 00:09:51,091 --> 00:09:53,059 The shell of its former self, mind you, 194 00:09:53,059 --> 00:09:55,195 only the weeds for company. 195 00:09:55,228 --> 00:09:57,931 Here on the fringe of Salt Lake City. 196 00:09:57,964 --> 00:10:02,268 This is, or was, the Alta Academy, 197 00:10:02,302 --> 00:10:05,472 once the most prestigious FLDS school. 198 00:10:05,505 --> 00:10:07,173 Here, hundreds of children 199 00:10:07,207 --> 00:10:09,109 as seen on their old yearbook photos, 200 00:10:09,142 --> 00:10:11,578 were instilled in the teachings of tenets 201 00:10:11,611 --> 00:10:15,815 of the FLDS faith, including Rebecca Musser 202 00:10:15,849 --> 00:10:18,284 who was a student here for more than 10 years. 203 00:10:18,318 --> 00:10:20,687 - So this was your classroom, fourth grade? 204 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:21,955 - Fourth grade through 12th grade 205 00:10:21,988 --> 00:10:24,758 would meet here in this room. 206 00:10:24,791 --> 00:10:29,129 And Mr. Jeffs would teach for morning class. 207 00:10:29,162 --> 00:10:34,034 - Mr. Jeffs was Warren Jeffs, the Principal of Alta Academy, 208 00:10:34,067 --> 00:10:36,269 and one of Rebecca's primary teachers. 209 00:10:36,302 --> 00:10:38,138 Tall, slender... 210 00:10:38,171 --> 00:10:40,006 Warren was one of Uncle Rulon's, 211 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,676 the prophet's, many sons. 212 00:10:42,709 --> 00:10:45,078 - Warren was an authority in the school. 213 00:10:45,111 --> 00:10:46,346 He was close to the prophet. 214 00:10:46,379 --> 00:10:49,115 And Warren would talk to him every single day 215 00:10:49,149 --> 00:10:52,318 and kind of be his father's messenger. 216 00:10:52,352 --> 00:10:54,654 - This most private of private schools, 217 00:10:54,688 --> 00:10:57,190 away from the prying eyes of the outside world, 218 00:10:57,223 --> 00:11:01,061 taught the basics of reading, and writing, and arithmetic. 219 00:11:01,061 --> 00:11:02,629 And that was when Rebecca also discovered 220 00:11:02,662 --> 00:11:04,931 a natural musical talent. 221 00:11:04,964 --> 00:11:07,967 She learned to play and love the violin. 222 00:11:08,068 --> 00:11:10,737 She also listened carefully to Warren Jeffs' lessons 223 00:11:10,770 --> 00:11:12,639 and strict obedience, 224 00:11:12,672 --> 00:11:16,242 even if that did not always come so easily. 225 00:11:16,276 --> 00:11:20,080 - What was called holy was this level of obedience, 226 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,249 this level of dedication. And I strove for that. 227 00:11:23,283 --> 00:11:25,819 I didn't have boyfriends. And I didn't sneak out. 228 00:11:25,852 --> 00:11:27,354 And I didn't drink beer. 229 00:11:27,387 --> 00:11:29,556 - Warren Jeffs knew how to have fun though. 230 00:11:29,589 --> 00:11:32,225 Or certainly, seemed to be enjoying himself 231 00:11:32,258 --> 00:11:34,294 in this rare video shot at school. 232 00:11:34,327 --> 00:11:40,300 - He was kind of goofy, a little bit of the nerdy. 233 00:11:40,333 --> 00:11:43,103 - But he ran the place with an iron hand, 234 00:11:43,103 --> 00:11:45,572 said Rebecca, developing and dictating 235 00:11:45,605 --> 00:11:48,475 every aspect of the class curriculum 236 00:11:48,508 --> 00:11:51,644 as if he had something bigger in mind. 237 00:11:51,678 --> 00:11:55,548 - There was always a calculated part of him 238 00:11:55,582 --> 00:11:57,717 about what his next best move was, 239 00:11:57,751 --> 00:11:59,819 whether it was for power or for position. 240 00:11:59,853 --> 00:12:02,689 But I never felt completely relaxed around him. 241 00:12:02,722 --> 00:12:05,425 And I think that I'm not the only one. 242 00:12:05,458 --> 00:12:08,061 - Very true, said Rebecca's fellow student, 243 00:12:08,094 --> 00:12:09,496 Andrew Chatwin. 244 00:12:09,529 --> 00:12:13,500 - He implemented a school rule that if you got three F's 245 00:12:13,533 --> 00:12:16,069 or three late assignments, he would beat you 246 00:12:16,069 --> 00:12:18,438 on the back of the legs with a yardstick. 247 00:12:18,471 --> 00:12:20,674 - Including you? - He gave me one beating. 248 00:12:20,707 --> 00:12:23,109 And it swelled up like a half inch on the back of my legs. 249 00:12:23,143 --> 00:12:26,279 I couldn't sit down very good for a week. 250 00:12:26,312 --> 00:12:29,816 - Principal Warren Jeffs pointedly excluded subjects 251 00:12:29,849 --> 00:12:32,485 that conflicted with FLDS theology. 252 00:12:32,519 --> 00:12:35,755 Like evolution, for example, didn't happen... 253 00:12:35,789 --> 00:12:37,390 Or even men on the moon. 254 00:12:37,424 --> 00:12:40,393 - That's one small step for man. 255 00:12:40,427 --> 00:12:42,395 - That didn't happen either. 256 00:12:42,429 --> 00:12:45,498 Which is how young Rebecca first ran afoul 257 00:12:45,532 --> 00:12:47,400 of the prophet's son. 258 00:12:47,434 --> 00:12:49,102 - I'd gone to kindergarten in first grade 259 00:12:49,102 --> 00:12:50,337 at a public school. 260 00:12:50,370 --> 00:12:53,740 And I remember so distinctly, 261 00:12:53,773 --> 00:12:56,976 the day an astronaut came to visit our school. 262 00:12:57,010 --> 00:12:58,778 And I was mesmerized. 263 00:12:58,812 --> 00:13:02,048 And so then I go to Alta Academy. 264 00:13:02,082 --> 00:13:07,253 And somehow, there was some discussion about astronauts. 265 00:13:07,287 --> 00:13:10,924 I spout out that, "Yeah, they've been on the moon." 266 00:13:10,957 --> 00:13:13,193 - And perhaps that moment was the beginning of it. 267 00:13:13,226 --> 00:13:17,630 The first skirmish, oh, but not the last. 268 00:13:17,664 --> 00:13:20,367 Rebecca's outburst earned her the first of many trips 269 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,970 down the hall to Warren Jeffs' office, 270 00:13:24,070 --> 00:13:28,375 where he very strictly and sternly reprimanded me, 271 00:13:28,408 --> 00:13:32,078 saying that there is no way that God would allow 272 00:13:32,112 --> 00:13:34,147 any mortal man to walk on the moon. 273 00:13:34,180 --> 00:13:37,117 It's only a trick. It didn't really happen. 274 00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:39,686 And don't you ever bring this up again. 275 00:13:39,719 --> 00:13:41,154 - By then the prophet Rulon Jeffs 276 00:13:41,187 --> 00:13:44,491 had announced that the end times were upon them. 277 00:13:44,524 --> 00:13:45,492 He'd also announced 278 00:13:45,525 --> 00:13:47,627 that he would be the very last prophet. 279 00:13:47,660 --> 00:13:52,499 He personally would welcome back to earth, Jesus Christ. 280 00:13:52,532 --> 00:13:53,667 And in the meantime, while they waited, 281 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:54,968 he told them they would have to be 282 00:13:55,001 --> 00:13:59,939 absolutely obedient to his every directive. 283 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,909 Trouble was, Rebecca was having more and more trouble 284 00:14:02,942 --> 00:14:06,312 being absolutely obedient to her principal-- 285 00:14:06,346 --> 00:14:09,249 the prophet's powerful son, Warren Jeffs. 286 00:14:09,282 --> 00:14:11,618 - I was always in trouble for being stubborn. 287 00:14:11,651 --> 00:14:14,087 And so-- and I would ask the question, why? 288 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,722 That doesn't make sense to me. - Yeah. 289 00:14:15,755 --> 00:14:16,723 - If God's a God of reason, 290 00:14:16,756 --> 00:14:18,191 how come this doesn't make sense? 291 00:14:18,224 --> 00:14:20,293 Where's the missing link? 292 00:14:20,326 --> 00:14:22,629 - All the while, of course, Rebecca understood 293 00:14:22,662 --> 00:14:26,166 that the church was planning her future for her. 294 00:14:26,199 --> 00:14:27,901 She would bear many children. 295 00:14:27,934 --> 00:14:30,570 She'd be given to a husband of the prophet's choosing 296 00:14:30,603 --> 00:14:34,841 and share him with other wives, just how it was. 297 00:14:34,874 --> 00:14:37,410 - For the women, they are owned-- 298 00:14:37,444 --> 00:14:40,680 body, mind, and soul in their marriage covenants. 299 00:14:40,714 --> 00:14:45,452 It says, do you give yourself to your husband, 300 00:14:45,485 --> 00:14:47,721 of your own free will and choice? 301 00:14:47,754 --> 00:14:50,457 - They all said, yes. 302 00:14:50,490 --> 00:14:54,260 The alternative after all was damnation. 303 00:14:54,294 --> 00:14:57,297 Besides, as Becky developed into a smart, still faithful, 304 00:14:57,330 --> 00:14:58,998 and very beautiful young woman, 305 00:14:59,099 --> 00:15:01,368 her prospects were extremely good, 306 00:15:01,401 --> 00:15:03,870 especially because of the particular person 307 00:15:03,903 --> 00:15:05,705 who expressed his interest. 308 00:15:05,739 --> 00:15:08,508 As everyone told her... - You'll be blessed. 309 00:15:08,541 --> 00:15:11,778 You will have your salvation made sure. 310 00:15:11,811 --> 00:15:15,248 - Because Rebecca's husband-to-be 311 00:15:15,281 --> 00:15:17,384 was the prophet himself, 312 00:15:17,417 --> 00:15:23,089 the by then, 85-year-old Rulon Jeffs. 313 00:15:23,123 --> 00:15:26,626 - Sister Becky is set to marry the leader of the church. 314 00:15:26,659 --> 00:15:30,196 To some in her community, it might sound like a blessing. 315 00:15:30,230 --> 00:15:33,600 But for this young woman, it's nothing but a curse. 316 00:15:36,069 --> 00:15:39,973 - I just remember walking in and feeling like, 317 00:15:40,073 --> 00:15:42,575 just stand up and do your duty. 318 00:15:42,609 --> 00:15:45,278 - Though Becky's grown up in the FLDS, 319 00:15:45,311 --> 00:15:48,415 she has no idea what's in store. 320 00:15:48,448 --> 00:15:49,883 - I was horrified. 321 00:15:49,916 --> 00:15:52,852 - When Dateline: Secrets Uncovered continues. 322 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:08,868 - So this was my wedding dress. 323 00:16:08,902 --> 00:16:10,203 - Wow. You made that, too? 324 00:16:10,236 --> 00:16:11,671 There was no courtship. 325 00:16:11,705 --> 00:16:13,506 No romantic proposal, 326 00:16:13,540 --> 00:16:16,543 just a short ceremony to, of all people, 327 00:16:16,576 --> 00:16:20,180 the prophet himself, Uncle Rulon Jeffs. 328 00:16:20,213 --> 00:16:23,116 Rebecca was his 19th wife. 329 00:16:23,149 --> 00:16:24,217 - In the FLDS world, 330 00:16:24,250 --> 00:16:26,286 the age of the man doesn't matter. 331 00:16:26,319 --> 00:16:28,188 It's his standing with the prophet-- 332 00:16:28,221 --> 00:16:31,891 how pure, how obedient, how honorable he is. 333 00:16:31,925 --> 00:16:33,293 And in my case, 334 00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:36,262 this faithful man was the prophet himself. 335 00:16:36,296 --> 00:16:37,530 - Rebecca's father has told us, 336 00:16:37,564 --> 00:16:39,766 he believed she wanted to marry the prophet, 337 00:16:39,799 --> 00:16:41,368 that it was an honor for her. 338 00:16:41,401 --> 00:16:45,071 But, oh, no, said Rebecca, her father was wrong. 339 00:16:45,071 --> 00:16:47,240 It was more like a horror. 340 00:16:47,273 --> 00:16:49,075 - I did not want to marry Rulon Jeffs. 341 00:16:49,109 --> 00:16:51,344 - To an octogenarian, a man who was in his 80's 342 00:16:51,378 --> 00:16:52,479 for heaven's sake. 343 00:16:52,512 --> 00:16:56,549 - He was 85. And I was 19. 344 00:16:56,583 --> 00:16:57,817 - They held the wedding in the living room 345 00:16:57,851 --> 00:16:59,552 of Uncle Rulon's sprawling house 346 00:16:59,586 --> 00:17:03,656 in Salt Lake City-- September 17, 1995. 347 00:17:03,690 --> 00:17:08,228 - I just resigned myself to the fact that that was my fate 348 00:17:08,261 --> 00:17:10,363 and just to surrender to it. 349 00:17:10,397 --> 00:17:13,033 - This is my Prince Charming, this 85-year-old man? 350 00:17:13,033 --> 00:17:15,568 - Aargh... My Prince Charming? 351 00:17:15,602 --> 00:17:19,472 I just remember walking in and feeling like, 352 00:17:19,506 --> 00:17:22,575 just stand up and do your duty. 353 00:17:22,609 --> 00:17:25,912 - She wore the white wedding dress she sewed herself. 354 00:17:25,945 --> 00:17:28,148 But she did not walk down the aisle. 355 00:17:28,181 --> 00:17:30,750 No here comes the bride, for her. 356 00:17:30,784 --> 00:17:34,821 Just a brief exchange of vows witnessed by her family 357 00:17:34,854 --> 00:17:38,224 and Uncle Rulon's many other wives. 358 00:17:38,258 --> 00:17:39,559 - He couldn't stand up. 359 00:17:39,592 --> 00:17:42,896 He was leaning up against like a bench 360 00:17:42,929 --> 00:17:45,732 and feeling what it felt like because his hand was real shaky. 361 00:17:45,765 --> 00:17:52,072 Holding this old man's hand, I felt loss. 362 00:17:52,072 --> 00:17:55,875 And why don't I feel like this is the right thing inside? 363 00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:58,878 I was ashamed that I was not thrilled 364 00:17:58,912 --> 00:18:02,749 to be marrying a man more than four times my age. 365 00:18:02,782 --> 00:18:04,217 - And something else, 366 00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:06,386 which was certainly no thrill at all, 367 00:18:06,419 --> 00:18:09,022 because she was married to Uncle Rulon, 368 00:18:09,022 --> 00:18:12,692 his children were now her children. 369 00:18:12,726 --> 00:18:16,529 Which meant that the authority figure she had learned to fear, 370 00:18:16,563 --> 00:18:19,366 the man who tormented her for years at school, 371 00:18:19,399 --> 00:18:23,737 Warren Jeffs... was suddenly her son. 372 00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:31,378 - After I married Rulon Jeffs, Warren was strangely nice. 373 00:18:31,411 --> 00:18:33,113 But he could also be very stern 374 00:18:33,146 --> 00:18:36,850 and make sure that you knew your place, your duty, 375 00:18:36,883 --> 00:18:39,552 and what was required of you. 376 00:18:39,586 --> 00:18:43,523 - And life as a married woman required serving the prophet 377 00:18:43,556 --> 00:18:45,258 any way he wanted to be served. 378 00:18:45,291 --> 00:18:48,128 They had a phrase for it, keeping sweet. 379 00:18:48,161 --> 00:18:49,796 - To keep sweet means 380 00:18:49,829 --> 00:18:54,801 that you are absolutely without question 381 00:18:54,834 --> 00:18:57,537 obedient to what is being asked of you. 382 00:18:57,570 --> 00:19:00,373 - No matter what that may be? - No matter what that may be, 383 00:19:00,407 --> 00:19:03,009 with this sweet attitude. 384 00:19:03,043 --> 00:19:07,080 There should be no anger, no resistance, no-- 385 00:19:07,113 --> 00:19:10,617 even we were told that asking the question why, 386 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:13,653 was wrong. 387 00:19:13,687 --> 00:19:16,823 - So whatever Uncle Rulon wanted, he got. 388 00:19:16,856 --> 00:19:21,061 And though he was 85, he still wanted sex. 389 00:19:21,094 --> 00:19:22,128 - When I first married him, 390 00:19:22,162 --> 00:19:25,298 it was two to three times a month. 391 00:19:25,331 --> 00:19:28,902 - How can a man of 85 with 19 wives 392 00:19:28,935 --> 00:19:32,539 perform the functions of a husband? 393 00:19:32,572 --> 00:19:33,840 - He was old. 394 00:19:33,873 --> 00:19:40,680 And even though he couldn't, he certainly did try. 395 00:19:40,714 --> 00:19:42,148 It was horrifying. 396 00:19:42,182 --> 00:19:44,484 I kept trying to say, this as a man of God, 397 00:19:44,517 --> 00:19:46,152 and yet he's doing this to me. 398 00:19:46,186 --> 00:19:47,687 And if he talks to God, then surely 399 00:19:47,721 --> 00:19:52,659 God will give him the message that I'm terrified. 400 00:19:52,692 --> 00:19:54,794 - But neither God nor anyone else 401 00:19:54,828 --> 00:19:56,663 seemed to be paying attention. 402 00:19:56,696 --> 00:19:58,498 So the next time the prophet called for her, 403 00:19:58,531 --> 00:20:03,470 Rebecca did the unthinkable. She refused to see him. 404 00:20:03,503 --> 00:20:04,704 - I said, no. 405 00:20:04,738 --> 00:20:07,841 I am not ready to come and stay with you. 406 00:20:07,874 --> 00:20:09,642 I was not going to go through that again. 407 00:20:09,676 --> 00:20:10,777 And I was willing to take the consequences. 408 00:20:10,810 --> 00:20:12,645 - That's a pretty big deal, to refuse-- 409 00:20:12,679 --> 00:20:15,015 - It was a huge deal. 410 00:20:15,048 --> 00:20:17,951 - Word of Rebecca's refusal got to Warren Jeffs. 411 00:20:17,984 --> 00:20:21,521 And again, she said she was called to his office. 412 00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:24,157 The petty skirmishing was over now. 413 00:20:24,190 --> 00:20:27,727 Now she knew, she was in very real jeopardy. 414 00:20:27,761 --> 00:20:30,430 - He used scripture to tell me, 415 00:20:30,463 --> 00:20:33,867 it is your duty to be a comfort to your husband, 416 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:37,437 especially my husband because he was the prophet. 417 00:20:37,470 --> 00:20:40,140 That he received direct revelation from God. 418 00:20:40,173 --> 00:20:45,011 And he said, don't you ever, ever, ever, ever 419 00:20:45,045 --> 00:20:47,113 tell your husband no again. 420 00:20:47,147 --> 00:20:48,715 If you do, 421 00:20:48,748 --> 00:20:51,618 you will be destroyed in the flesh. 422 00:20:51,651 --> 00:20:53,753 - Destroyed in the flesh? 423 00:20:53,787 --> 00:20:58,358 Well, maybe not Rebecca, maybe someone else. 424 00:21:02,929 --> 00:21:06,066 - Cataclysmic change comes to the Creek. 425 00:21:06,066 --> 00:21:10,070 And Becky's little sister will also pay the price. 426 00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:12,472 - And I finally just said, okay, 427 00:21:12,505 --> 00:21:14,474 with tears streaming down my face. 428 00:21:15,475 --> 00:21:18,178 - When Dateline: Secrets Uncovered continues. 429 00:21:25,852 --> 00:21:28,355 e back to Dateline: Secrets Uncovered. 430 00:21:28,388 --> 00:21:30,090 I'm Kate Snow. 431 00:21:30,090 --> 00:21:33,360 19-year-old Becky Musser had fulfilled her duty, 432 00:21:33,393 --> 00:21:35,862 marrying prophet Rulon Jeffs, 433 00:21:35,895 --> 00:21:38,598 a man more than four times her age. 434 00:21:38,631 --> 00:21:40,100 As her faith commanded, 435 00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:42,836 she reluctantly shared her husband's bed, 436 00:21:42,869 --> 00:21:46,106 until the day she simply refused. 437 00:21:46,106 --> 00:21:47,540 Now, Becky's sister 438 00:21:47,574 --> 00:21:50,176 was expected to marry against her will. 439 00:21:50,210 --> 00:21:53,313 And an old foe with frightening new authority, 440 00:21:53,346 --> 00:21:56,249 would stop at nothing to make that happen. 441 00:21:56,282 --> 00:21:59,252 Back to Keith Morrison, with "Unbreakable." 442 00:22:01,788 --> 00:22:04,357 - Rebecca Musser, wife number 19 443 00:22:04,391 --> 00:22:06,192 to her prophet Rulon Jeffs 444 00:22:06,226 --> 00:22:08,628 was not destroyed in the flesh. 445 00:22:08,661 --> 00:22:10,497 No, despite the threatening noises 446 00:22:10,530 --> 00:22:12,399 from Rulon's son, Warren, 447 00:22:12,432 --> 00:22:16,403 Rebecca found other ways to keep her aging husband content. 448 00:22:16,436 --> 00:22:19,572 And anyway, there was lots of help in that department. 449 00:22:22,442 --> 00:22:25,211 As Rulon's predicted end times approached, 450 00:22:25,245 --> 00:22:27,814 he married more and more young women 451 00:22:27,847 --> 00:22:30,483 to ensure their salvation, he would tell them. 452 00:22:30,517 --> 00:22:33,186 By the time he was 90, he had something like 453 00:22:33,219 --> 00:22:37,157 60 wives and more than 60 children. 454 00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:40,960 And then, then basic biology stepped in. 455 00:22:40,994 --> 00:22:43,163 Three years into Rebecca's marriage, 456 00:22:43,196 --> 00:22:45,699 the man they all believed was immortal, 457 00:22:45,732 --> 00:22:48,702 would live to see the second coming of Christ, 458 00:22:48,735 --> 00:22:51,171 suffered a very human fate. 459 00:22:51,204 --> 00:22:52,906 - I was in the room when it happened. 460 00:22:52,939 --> 00:22:54,674 He was sitting, talking. 461 00:22:54,708 --> 00:22:57,310 And then all of a sudden, he was slumped over. 462 00:22:57,344 --> 00:22:58,678 And he didn't wake up. 463 00:23:00,380 --> 00:23:02,782 - They rushed Uncle Rulon to the nearest hospital. 464 00:23:02,816 --> 00:23:04,918 A stroke, big one. 465 00:23:04,951 --> 00:23:07,120 He survived, but only barely. 466 00:23:07,153 --> 00:23:11,091 Frail, confused, he couldn't remember his wife's names-- 467 00:23:11,124 --> 00:23:14,060 called them all, "sweetie." 468 00:23:14,060 --> 00:23:16,796 Then Warren Jeffs issued instructions. 469 00:23:16,830 --> 00:23:18,598 No one was to know. 470 00:23:18,631 --> 00:23:20,467 The severity of the prophet's condition 471 00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:22,535 must be kept secret, 472 00:23:22,569 --> 00:23:25,905 especially from the people of the FLDS. 473 00:23:25,939 --> 00:23:27,707 - What he was telling the people was just 474 00:23:27,741 --> 00:23:29,609 that the prophet was doing fine, 475 00:23:29,642 --> 00:23:33,179 they-- only that he needed to have some rest. 476 00:23:33,213 --> 00:23:36,249 - As if to prove it, the marriages continued. 477 00:23:36,282 --> 00:23:39,452 Rulon was eventually married to 65 women, 478 00:23:39,486 --> 00:23:41,087 most of them young. 479 00:23:41,121 --> 00:23:45,091 The sign for the faithful, of a healthy prophet. 480 00:23:45,091 --> 00:23:47,193 But an outsider was watching all this 481 00:23:47,227 --> 00:23:49,095 with very different eyes. 482 00:23:49,095 --> 00:23:50,964 A private investigator, who's made it his business 483 00:23:50,997 --> 00:23:54,334 to track and write about the FLDS and its leaders. 484 00:23:54,367 --> 00:23:56,703 A man named Sam Brower. 485 00:23:56,736 --> 00:23:58,772 And what concerned Brower was not so much 486 00:23:58,805 --> 00:24:01,241 the sick old prophet and his wives, 487 00:24:01,274 --> 00:24:05,278 as it was the young man pulling the strings. 488 00:24:05,311 --> 00:24:09,115 - When he saw his father starting to deteriorate, 489 00:24:09,149 --> 00:24:11,418 he was able to kind of worm himself 490 00:24:11,451 --> 00:24:13,486 into a position of authority. 491 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,123 And then when his father started having these strokes, 492 00:24:17,157 --> 00:24:20,960 Warren just proclaimed himself his father's mouthpiece. 493 00:24:21,061 --> 00:24:24,164 - First, came an order supposedly from the prophet, 494 00:24:24,197 --> 00:24:26,199 passed on by his son Warren. 495 00:24:26,232 --> 00:24:28,535 The prophet had a revelation. 496 00:24:28,568 --> 00:24:32,472 Salt Lake City had become the wickedest city on Earth, 497 00:24:32,505 --> 00:24:36,276 a city marked for destruction in the Second Coming of Christ. 498 00:24:38,178 --> 00:24:39,879 But in the meantime, 499 00:24:39,913 --> 00:24:42,248 the faithful were told to gather here, 500 00:24:42,282 --> 00:24:46,753 here in Short Creek to await the end of times. 501 00:24:46,786 --> 00:24:49,189 Most of them came. 502 00:24:51,491 --> 00:24:54,260 Soon, Warren Jeffs' tactics, extremely effective, 503 00:24:54,294 --> 00:24:57,397 said Rebecca, became apparent, to her at least. 504 00:24:57,430 --> 00:24:59,099 He was gathering the church in a place 505 00:24:59,099 --> 00:25:02,235 he could more easily control it himself. 506 00:25:02,268 --> 00:25:04,904 And he was handing out political gifts 507 00:25:04,938 --> 00:25:07,173 to its male pillars. 508 00:25:07,207 --> 00:25:08,341 - It went from having 509 00:25:08,375 --> 00:25:11,878 maybe two or three marriages a weekend, 510 00:25:11,911 --> 00:25:16,116 to having, you know, five, six, seven even sometimes 511 00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:17,484 eight marriages in a day. 512 00:25:17,517 --> 00:25:18,618 - But they were getting younger, 513 00:25:18,651 --> 00:25:20,053 and younger, and younger. 514 00:25:20,086 --> 00:25:21,688 - Because they were running out of girls. 515 00:25:21,721 --> 00:25:25,058 Warren was literally, like, appeasing the questions 516 00:25:25,091 --> 00:25:27,260 with, you've been so faithful, 517 00:25:27,293 --> 00:25:29,496 here is a new beautiful young bride for you. 518 00:25:29,529 --> 00:25:30,830 This is your blessing. 519 00:25:30,864 --> 00:25:31,931 - Here's a 16-year-old. 520 00:25:31,965 --> 00:25:35,335 - And then all of the 16-year-olds get married. 521 00:25:35,368 --> 00:25:37,971 And then there's 15-year-olds. 522 00:25:38,071 --> 00:25:40,106 - One of those girls being pressured into marriage 523 00:25:40,140 --> 00:25:43,410 was a happy little blonde named Elissa Wall, 524 00:25:43,443 --> 00:25:47,514 Rebecca's little sister, who was just 14. 525 00:25:47,547 --> 00:25:50,450 - When I found out that I was marrying Allen, 526 00:25:50,483 --> 00:25:52,318 who was my first cousin, 527 00:25:52,352 --> 00:25:54,120 I was already resistant to the marriage. 528 00:25:54,154 --> 00:25:56,823 And I had, on multiple occasions, 529 00:25:56,856 --> 00:26:00,427 expressed my desire to not get married. 530 00:26:00,460 --> 00:26:02,796 - Allen was Allen Steed. 531 00:26:02,829 --> 00:26:06,766 Elissa despised him, had known him all her life. 532 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,569 And besides, she knew nothing of marriage, 533 00:26:09,602 --> 00:26:13,540 let alone sex or having babies. 534 00:26:13,573 --> 00:26:16,042 - I had never been taught about anatomy. 535 00:26:16,042 --> 00:26:18,478 I had never been taught about sex. 536 00:26:18,511 --> 00:26:21,114 It wasn't even a term used in the FLDS. 537 00:26:23,049 --> 00:26:27,053 - And so Rebecca intervened, tried to stop the marriage. 538 00:26:27,053 --> 00:26:28,321 But... 539 00:26:28,355 --> 00:26:30,890 - Warren told me, it's happening. 540 00:26:30,924 --> 00:26:35,161 There was no choice for her except to do what she was told. 541 00:26:37,130 --> 00:26:41,201 - And so in a seedy motel owned by the FLDS, 542 00:26:41,234 --> 00:26:44,637 in the little out-of-the-way town of Caliente, Nevada, 543 00:26:44,671 --> 00:26:46,940 the secret marriage took place, 544 00:26:46,973 --> 00:26:49,442 Warren Jeffs presiding. 545 00:26:49,476 --> 00:26:52,245 - I knew that this wasn't right. 546 00:26:52,278 --> 00:26:55,982 And I took those last moments to be defiant. 547 00:26:56,082 --> 00:26:58,318 I refused to just take my vows. 548 00:26:58,351 --> 00:27:00,186 - They just waited for you to say the right words? 549 00:27:00,220 --> 00:27:01,187 - They did. 550 00:27:01,221 --> 00:27:03,123 I remember Warren asking Allen the vows. 551 00:27:03,156 --> 00:27:04,591 And Allen saying, I do. 552 00:27:04,624 --> 00:27:07,827 And him turning to me and asking me, 553 00:27:07,861 --> 00:27:09,029 do I take Allen? 554 00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:13,033 And I just stood there, my last defense. 555 00:27:13,033 --> 00:27:14,100 - So what did he do? 556 00:27:14,134 --> 00:27:16,803 - He asked my mother to stand up next to me. 557 00:27:16,836 --> 00:27:19,372 She stood there and squeezed my hand. 558 00:27:19,406 --> 00:27:20,807 And I finally just said, okay. 559 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,042 - Yeah. 560 00:27:22,075 --> 00:27:24,077 - With tears streaming down my face. 561 00:27:30,684 --> 00:27:32,686 - Elissa and her husband moved into 562 00:27:32,719 --> 00:27:34,554 a house in the Creek. 563 00:27:34,587 --> 00:27:37,657 Rebecca lived nearby in Uncle Rulon's giant house 564 00:27:37,691 --> 00:27:39,592 and was aware of what was happening 565 00:27:39,626 --> 00:27:41,428 to her little sister. 566 00:27:41,461 --> 00:27:43,730 - Allen was very sexually abusive to me. 567 00:27:43,763 --> 00:27:48,068 From day one, I was incredibly vocal about 568 00:27:48,068 --> 00:27:50,403 how much I did not want him to touch me. 569 00:27:50,437 --> 00:27:54,240 That I didn't want to have a family with him. 570 00:27:54,274 --> 00:27:56,343 So to have the sexual relationship 571 00:27:56,376 --> 00:28:00,246 with him was so devastating. 572 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,515 It was absolutely being raped. 573 00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:06,019 - So did you go to either Rulon or Warren to complain? 574 00:28:06,019 --> 00:28:08,054 - I went to Warren Jeffs multiple times 575 00:28:08,088 --> 00:28:10,156 throughout my marriage with Allen, 576 00:28:10,190 --> 00:28:13,159 begging him for a way out, 577 00:28:13,193 --> 00:28:15,195 explaining to him what was going on. 578 00:28:15,228 --> 00:28:18,031 And he ultimately, would reprimand me 579 00:28:18,031 --> 00:28:20,200 and tell me to go home and give myself, 580 00:28:20,233 --> 00:28:21,601 mind, body, and soul. 581 00:28:21,634 --> 00:28:22,702 - It was your fault. 582 00:28:22,736 --> 00:28:24,604 - It was. It was always my fault. 583 00:28:28,742 --> 00:28:31,244 - Meanwhile, the millennium came and went. 584 00:28:31,277 --> 00:28:33,680 The world did not end. 585 00:28:33,713 --> 00:28:37,550 But something very unexpected did happen. 586 00:28:37,584 --> 00:28:40,653 In 2002, Rulon Jeffs, 587 00:28:40,687 --> 00:28:42,689 the seemingly immortal prophet, 588 00:28:42,722 --> 00:28:44,491 the man who prophesied he'd be alive 589 00:28:44,524 --> 00:28:47,927 for the return of Jesus, died. 590 00:28:47,961 --> 00:28:49,963 He was 92. 591 00:28:50,063 --> 00:28:52,532 - And then as it started to sink in, 592 00:28:52,565 --> 00:28:55,869 I was scared. 593 00:28:55,902 --> 00:29:00,006 - Because guess who was in charge now? 594 00:29:01,908 --> 00:29:03,410 - Coming up... 595 00:29:03,443 --> 00:29:06,680 after years of quiet clashes with Warren Jeffs, 596 00:29:06,713 --> 00:29:09,282 things are about to explode. 597 00:29:09,315 --> 00:29:10,583 - He pointed his finger at me. 598 00:29:10,617 --> 00:29:13,553 He said, I will break you. 599 00:29:26,566 --> 00:29:28,535 - It was huge, the funeral. 600 00:29:29,469 --> 00:29:32,339 Like burying Short Creek's version of a pope, 601 00:29:32,372 --> 00:29:33,907 only more so. 602 00:29:33,940 --> 00:29:37,744 Because the Prophet Rulon dead at 92, 603 00:29:37,777 --> 00:29:39,879 was supposed to be immortal, 604 00:29:39,913 --> 00:29:43,049 and welcome the Second Coming of Christ. 605 00:29:43,049 --> 00:29:46,152 - The shock, when he actually did die. 606 00:29:46,186 --> 00:29:49,322 I remember thinking, no, that can't be. 607 00:29:49,356 --> 00:29:51,958 That doesn't fit into what we've been told. 608 00:29:52,058 --> 00:29:55,428 And if we had enough faith, then he would live that long. 609 00:29:55,462 --> 00:29:57,597 And he would be made young again. 610 00:29:57,630 --> 00:29:59,466 And so it was because of our lack of faith 611 00:29:59,499 --> 00:30:03,603 that this man that was in his 90s, died. 612 00:30:03,636 --> 00:30:06,239 And that was when Warren made his move. 613 00:30:06,272 --> 00:30:08,308 - He just stepped into the vacancy and said, 614 00:30:08,341 --> 00:30:10,176 that's it. It's me now. 615 00:30:10,210 --> 00:30:13,113 - He did it very subtly, 616 00:30:13,146 --> 00:30:15,849 but very aggressively. 617 00:30:15,882 --> 00:30:17,250 Warren is a brilliant man. 618 00:30:17,283 --> 00:30:19,386 He is diabolically genius. 619 00:30:20,854 --> 00:30:24,224 - By the time Uncle Rulon died, said investigator Sam Brower, 620 00:30:24,257 --> 00:30:27,093 his son Warren Jeffs was untouchable. 621 00:30:27,127 --> 00:30:31,931 In short, he was officially declared prophet of the FLDS. 622 00:30:31,965 --> 00:30:35,602 - He proceeded to kick any threats out of the church. 623 00:30:35,635 --> 00:30:38,371 He held a meeting and immediately kicked out 624 00:30:38,405 --> 00:30:41,675 21 men that were threats to his authority. 625 00:30:41,708 --> 00:30:43,943 - Remember Andrew Chatwin, who said he suffered 626 00:30:43,977 --> 00:30:47,113 a beating at the hands of headmaster Warren Jeffs? 627 00:30:47,147 --> 00:30:49,115 He knew several men of the church, he said, 628 00:30:49,149 --> 00:30:52,118 were getting the adult version. 629 00:30:52,152 --> 00:30:56,923 - In some cases, a man would go to work in the morning 630 00:30:56,956 --> 00:30:58,258 and come back that evening, 631 00:30:58,291 --> 00:30:59,526 and all of this personal stuff 632 00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:02,295 is put out on the front yard of the house. 633 00:31:02,328 --> 00:31:03,630 And his wife has remarried... 634 00:31:03,663 --> 00:31:04,564 - In one day? 635 00:31:04,597 --> 00:31:06,499 - In one day, while he's gone to work. 636 00:31:06,533 --> 00:31:10,203 No-no trial, no explaining yourself 637 00:31:10,236 --> 00:31:12,739 because they made a decision. 638 00:31:12,772 --> 00:31:16,343 - Rapidly, Short Creek changed, said Andrew Chatwin. 639 00:31:16,376 --> 00:31:20,113 Paranoia wormed its way through the commune. 640 00:31:20,146 --> 00:31:23,083 - Warren, he's not a stupid man. 641 00:31:23,083 --> 00:31:24,951 And that's what's so dangerous about him. 642 00:31:24,984 --> 00:31:27,887 It was sort of like he made sure that every single person 643 00:31:27,921 --> 00:31:29,823 had just enough dirt on them to keep them 644 00:31:29,856 --> 00:31:32,425 uncomfortable from speaking up. - Right, just-- right. 645 00:31:32,459 --> 00:31:36,229 - And that is what allowed all of that to flourish. 646 00:31:36,262 --> 00:31:37,931 - Rebecca was 26 by then. 647 00:31:37,964 --> 00:31:41,768 A widow, and she believed, vulnerable. 648 00:31:41,801 --> 00:31:44,204 - I no longer had a layer of protection 649 00:31:44,237 --> 00:31:46,106 from the prophet. - Right. 650 00:31:46,106 --> 00:31:49,275 - And Warren had absolute say. 651 00:31:49,309 --> 00:31:51,578 So for me, it was scary. 652 00:31:51,611 --> 00:31:53,413 - What were you afraid he was going to do? 653 00:31:53,446 --> 00:31:55,448 - My biggest fear was that he was going to 654 00:31:55,482 --> 00:31:57,017 force us to be remarried. 655 00:31:57,117 --> 00:32:00,153 - To somebody? - To anybody, especially him. 656 00:32:02,455 --> 00:32:04,190 - Sure enough, in Short Creek, 657 00:32:04,224 --> 00:32:07,127 Warren Jeffs wasted little time arranging for weddings 658 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,063 for dozens of the prophet's widows. 659 00:32:10,063 --> 00:32:13,867 - And then when he did start to marry those wives off, 660 00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:17,070 it was like a locomotive that was out of control. 661 00:32:17,070 --> 00:32:20,373 And I would see them walking behind Warren the next day, 662 00:32:20,407 --> 00:32:22,642 and I would realize, yep, another one married him. 663 00:32:22,676 --> 00:32:24,878 It was very, very troubling. 664 00:32:24,911 --> 00:32:28,882 And it felt just like being sent to auction. 665 00:32:28,915 --> 00:32:32,552 - Rebecca, perhaps the prettiest of all the prophet's wives, 666 00:32:32,585 --> 00:32:37,157 but no friend of Warren, feared she would be next. 667 00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:39,693 - I was very concerned about marrying Warren. 668 00:32:39,726 --> 00:32:41,094 I had seen the way he had treated 669 00:32:41,094 --> 00:32:43,096 his wives and his family. 670 00:32:43,129 --> 00:32:45,765 And I knew that even the little freedoms 671 00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:49,202 that I had would be taken. 672 00:32:49,235 --> 00:32:52,138 - And then one day, Rebecca and a young man named Ben, 673 00:32:52,172 --> 00:32:53,640 also a member of the FLDS, 674 00:32:53,673 --> 00:32:56,176 were hiking in the hills above Short Creek. 675 00:32:56,209 --> 00:32:58,845 Since Rulon's death, the two had grown close. 676 00:32:58,878 --> 00:33:02,716 Trouble was someone saw them kissing, 677 00:33:02,749 --> 00:33:04,918 and told Warren Jeffs. 678 00:33:04,951 --> 00:33:06,619 And once again, she said, 679 00:33:06,653 --> 00:33:10,290 she was called into his disapproving presence. 680 00:33:10,323 --> 00:33:14,160 - And then he said, I detect the seeds of apostasy in you. 681 00:33:15,729 --> 00:33:18,932 And that is in the FLDS culture, 682 00:33:18,965 --> 00:33:22,435 by far, one of the worst acts. 683 00:33:22,469 --> 00:33:24,504 That's next to murder. 684 00:33:24,537 --> 00:33:26,773 - And then the new prophet issued the order, 685 00:33:26,806 --> 00:33:29,309 the one Rebecca dreaded. 686 00:33:29,342 --> 00:33:34,481 - You will be married one week from now. 687 00:33:34,514 --> 00:33:36,082 And I begged him. 688 00:33:36,082 --> 00:33:38,351 I said, please, don't do this to me. 689 00:33:38,385 --> 00:33:41,354 And he said, you know that's what God wants. 690 00:33:41,388 --> 00:33:43,356 And I said, no, I don't. 691 00:33:43,390 --> 00:33:45,091 And he pointed his finger at me. 692 00:33:45,125 --> 00:33:48,828 He said, I will break you. 693 00:33:48,862 --> 00:33:51,364 - And maybe only now, in retrospect, 694 00:33:51,398 --> 00:33:53,566 does the moment come into focus. 695 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,202 The years of animosity, of building tension 696 00:33:56,236 --> 00:33:58,538 between Rebecca and Warren Jeffs 697 00:33:58,571 --> 00:34:02,242 had just become a declaration of war. 698 00:34:04,844 --> 00:34:06,446 - Coming up... 699 00:34:06,479 --> 00:34:09,516 Rebecca takes a life-changing risk. 700 00:34:09,549 --> 00:34:12,886 - When it sunk in, I thought, what have I done? 701 00:34:12,919 --> 00:34:14,954 Oh, my gosh, what am I going to do? 702 00:34:29,469 --> 00:34:31,971 - She had a week to decide, this prophet's widow, 703 00:34:32,772 --> 00:34:34,674 marry Warren Jeffs, or some other man 704 00:34:34,708 --> 00:34:37,277 of his choosing, or... 705 00:34:37,310 --> 00:34:38,812 Or what? 706 00:34:38,845 --> 00:34:42,349 Doubt and guilt played ping-pong in her head. 707 00:34:42,382 --> 00:34:44,751 - Well, maybe they know better than I know. 708 00:34:44,784 --> 00:34:46,619 Maybe it's just me that's wrong. 709 00:34:46,653 --> 00:34:47,821 But then there's the other part of you 710 00:34:47,854 --> 00:34:50,590 that says, hold on a minute, 711 00:34:50,623 --> 00:34:52,759 there's something really wrong here. 712 00:34:52,792 --> 00:34:55,595 - For days, the voices competed, 713 00:34:55,628 --> 00:34:58,531 tick-tock, deadline coming. 714 00:34:58,565 --> 00:35:01,534 And then something clicked. 715 00:35:01,568 --> 00:35:05,472 - And it hit me, you could leave. 716 00:35:05,505 --> 00:35:07,574 And I felt like this instant lift 717 00:35:07,607 --> 00:35:09,342 off of my shoulders. 718 00:35:10,210 --> 00:35:12,579 - But how could she leave? 719 00:35:12,612 --> 00:35:14,881 Not like she could just stroll out of the place 720 00:35:14,914 --> 00:35:16,182 in her prairie dress 721 00:35:16,216 --> 00:35:18,818 and start a brand new life somewhere. 722 00:35:18,852 --> 00:35:21,688 The FLDS was all she had ever known. 723 00:35:21,721 --> 00:35:25,191 I so distinctly remember thinking, 724 00:35:25,225 --> 00:35:29,062 if I leave, who will I become? 725 00:35:29,095 --> 00:35:31,331 Because we were taught that you would 726 00:35:31,364 --> 00:35:33,233 become evil, and wicked, 727 00:35:33,266 --> 00:35:36,503 and a diseased whore in the streets. 728 00:35:36,536 --> 00:35:41,274 - Rebecca had no escape plan, no survival strategy. 729 00:35:41,307 --> 00:35:43,743 She did have a few brothers who had left the FLDS, 730 00:35:43,777 --> 00:35:46,913 including one who lived in Coos Bay, Oregon. 731 00:35:46,946 --> 00:35:49,115 - And he said, come live with me. 732 00:35:49,149 --> 00:35:50,950 But that's Coos Bay, Oregon. 733 00:35:50,984 --> 00:35:52,852 And I'm in Southern Utah. I had no idea. 734 00:35:52,886 --> 00:35:54,187 I remember thinking, Oregon? 735 00:35:54,220 --> 00:35:55,622 Oregon really? 736 00:35:55,655 --> 00:35:58,792 So I had no idea how I was going to get there. 737 00:35:58,825 --> 00:36:02,028 - And she had neither a car, nor money to speak of. 738 00:36:03,463 --> 00:36:05,699 There was however, Ben, that young man 739 00:36:05,732 --> 00:36:08,768 she was caught kissing on Canaan Mountain. 740 00:36:08,802 --> 00:36:11,738 - Ben told me that he would help me get there. 741 00:36:11,771 --> 00:36:13,406 And that was a sobering thing for him to do, 742 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,175 full realizing what it was like for him. 743 00:36:15,208 --> 00:36:17,110 But he said, no, I'll help you. 744 00:36:17,143 --> 00:36:18,845 - Ben had a truck. 745 00:36:18,878 --> 00:36:21,748 They decided to leave in Ben's truck on Sunday morning, 746 00:36:21,781 --> 00:36:24,050 the day before Warren Jeffs deadline. 747 00:36:24,084 --> 00:36:28,054 They'd leave very early before dawn, before church. 748 00:36:28,088 --> 00:36:30,523 Over the next few days, Rebecca gathered together 749 00:36:30,557 --> 00:36:33,226 her belongings, her most precious possession, 750 00:36:33,259 --> 00:36:36,229 her photographs, her violin. 751 00:36:36,262 --> 00:36:39,699 She took them over to her sister and niece's home nearby. 752 00:36:39,733 --> 00:36:42,535 She did not tell anyone what she was doing, 753 00:36:42,569 --> 00:36:44,337 not even Elissa. 754 00:36:47,107 --> 00:36:48,742 Then it was time. 755 00:36:48,775 --> 00:36:52,178 A chilly Sunday morning, November 2002. 756 00:36:52,212 --> 00:36:55,415 - I remember what it was like to shut the door 757 00:36:55,448 --> 00:36:57,884 to my room, and feeling that click shut, 758 00:36:57,917 --> 00:36:59,753 and knowing that on the other side of that door 759 00:36:59,786 --> 00:37:01,821 was everything that I had ever known 760 00:37:01,855 --> 00:37:03,790 in my entire life. 761 00:37:03,823 --> 00:37:05,392 - She climbed over the wrought iron gate 762 00:37:05,425 --> 00:37:07,293 of Uncle Rulon's mansion 763 00:37:07,327 --> 00:37:10,030 and walked through the morning shadows to Ben, 764 00:37:10,030 --> 00:37:12,866 waiting down the road in his truck. 765 00:37:12,899 --> 00:37:14,034 - And I just kept thinking, 766 00:37:14,067 --> 00:37:16,102 just walk, just walk, just walk. 767 00:37:16,136 --> 00:37:18,038 And I remember, he opened the door 768 00:37:18,071 --> 00:37:20,140 and he said, are you ready? 769 00:37:20,173 --> 00:37:21,775 And I said, yeah. 770 00:37:21,808 --> 00:37:23,276 So we got in and just got out of town 771 00:37:23,309 --> 00:37:25,178 as quickly as we could. 772 00:37:32,252 --> 00:37:35,121 - As dawn lit up the Utah desert, 773 00:37:35,155 --> 00:37:39,292 Sister Becky was now just Rebecca. 774 00:37:39,325 --> 00:37:42,662 - When it sunk in, I thought, what have I done? 775 00:37:42,696 --> 00:37:44,531 Oh, my gosh, what am I going to do? 776 00:37:44,564 --> 00:37:46,266 And looking at the clock thinking, 777 00:37:46,299 --> 00:37:48,735 okay, if we turned around right now, 778 00:37:48,768 --> 00:37:49,869 I could probably slip in 779 00:37:49,903 --> 00:37:51,671 while everybody's in Sunday school. 780 00:37:51,705 --> 00:37:53,540 And it would be just fine. 781 00:37:53,573 --> 00:37:54,941 - You struggled with that a bit? 782 00:37:54,974 --> 00:37:56,109 - Tremendously. 783 00:37:56,142 --> 00:37:57,911 But then, you know what? 784 00:37:57,944 --> 00:38:00,547 No way am I going back to that. 785 00:38:00,580 --> 00:38:03,483 - They drove 22 straight hours to Oregon, 786 00:38:03,516 --> 00:38:07,287 to a world she had been taught was evil. 787 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,024 - Going cold turkey from being an FLDS prophet's wife, 788 00:38:11,057 --> 00:38:12,826 you know, my hair was almost down to my knees, 789 00:38:12,859 --> 00:38:15,595 and, you know, only ever having worn long dresses, 790 00:38:15,628 --> 00:38:17,430 everything fell for it. 791 00:38:18,798 --> 00:38:20,767 - For the very first time in her life, 792 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,437 Rebecca cut her hair, learned to apply makeup. 793 00:38:24,471 --> 00:38:25,638 She got a job as a waitress 794 00:38:25,672 --> 00:38:29,609 but found that communicating with customers wasn't easy. 795 00:38:29,642 --> 00:38:33,179 She didn't know slang words like cool and hip. 796 00:38:33,213 --> 00:38:34,881 She took them literally. 797 00:38:34,914 --> 00:38:37,150 - Even though I spoke the English language, 798 00:38:37,183 --> 00:38:39,052 I had no idea what people were talking about. 799 00:38:39,052 --> 00:38:41,254 So it was overwhelming. 800 00:38:41,287 --> 00:38:43,957 - And she pined for her family. 801 00:38:44,057 --> 00:38:46,659 - I was able to stay in touch covertly, 802 00:38:46,693 --> 00:38:48,194 with some of my family members. 803 00:38:48,228 --> 00:38:50,497 And Elissa was one of them. 804 00:38:50,530 --> 00:38:53,733 - Life was not good for Elissa, then 17, 805 00:38:53,767 --> 00:38:55,435 not at all. 806 00:38:55,468 --> 00:38:57,137 - There was lots of abuse, 807 00:38:57,170 --> 00:39:01,541 psychological, physical, mental, sexual abuse. 808 00:39:01,574 --> 00:39:04,644 I think, watching Rebecca go 809 00:39:04,678 --> 00:39:08,214 and finding out later on that she wasn't dead, 810 00:39:08,248 --> 00:39:10,750 the lightning had not come down and struck her, 811 00:39:10,784 --> 00:39:12,852 opened to my eyes. 812 00:39:12,886 --> 00:39:14,421 - With newfound courage, 813 00:39:14,454 --> 00:39:18,191 Elissa left Allen then fled the FLDS. 814 00:39:18,224 --> 00:39:20,193 - I got the chance to go to Oregon, 815 00:39:20,226 --> 00:39:21,394 where she was living at the time. 816 00:39:21,428 --> 00:39:24,364 And my brother and her were there. 817 00:39:24,397 --> 00:39:26,399 And I look back on that moment 818 00:39:26,433 --> 00:39:30,270 as a very pivotal point in my experience 819 00:39:30,303 --> 00:39:33,907 because it gave me a very clear understanding 820 00:39:33,940 --> 00:39:37,043 that there was a possibility that I'd be okay. 821 00:39:37,043 --> 00:39:38,345 - How was it to see them again? 822 00:39:38,378 --> 00:39:41,047 - Seeing my family again after 823 00:39:41,081 --> 00:39:44,050 the pain of them leaving, 824 00:39:44,084 --> 00:39:47,554 interestingly enough, it was just joy. 825 00:39:47,587 --> 00:39:48,688 There was no judgment. 826 00:39:48,722 --> 00:39:50,957 There was no, how dare you? 827 00:39:51,057 --> 00:39:54,227 I was so happy to see them again 828 00:39:54,260 --> 00:39:56,096 and to realize that I loved them 829 00:39:56,129 --> 00:39:58,798 no matter what the religion said, or Warren, 830 00:39:58,832 --> 00:40:01,901 or my teachings told me. 831 00:40:01,935 --> 00:40:03,203 - But back in the Creek, 832 00:40:03,236 --> 00:40:05,505 things were not okay for Warren Jeffs. 833 00:40:05,538 --> 00:40:08,675 Suddenly, he was facing lawsuits, two of them. 834 00:40:08,708 --> 00:40:11,745 Attorney Rod Parker was hired by the FLDS, 835 00:40:11,778 --> 00:40:14,447 though he no longer represents them. 836 00:40:14,481 --> 00:40:16,783 - One was called the Lost Boys case. 837 00:40:16,816 --> 00:40:19,786 The boys claimed they had been thrown out of the community. 838 00:40:19,819 --> 00:40:22,188 And then the other one was a young man 839 00:40:22,222 --> 00:40:25,525 who alleged that he had been sexually assaulted 840 00:40:25,558 --> 00:40:27,694 by Warren as a boy. 841 00:40:27,727 --> 00:40:31,364 - By 2004 when Elissa left the church and the Creek, 842 00:40:31,398 --> 00:40:32,699 word was spreading, 843 00:40:32,732 --> 00:40:35,802 mostly through the ex-members ejected by Warren Jeffs, 844 00:40:35,835 --> 00:40:37,704 the things were getting worse. 845 00:40:37,737 --> 00:40:40,006 That more and more marriages were being arranged 846 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,508 for pubescent girls, 847 00:40:41,541 --> 00:40:43,843 almost as if Warren Jeffs was using them 848 00:40:43,877 --> 00:40:47,113 as bargaining chips or rewards 849 00:40:47,147 --> 00:40:49,282 for senior members of the Church. 850 00:40:49,315 --> 00:40:53,286 A former FLDS member called Rebecca and said... 851 00:40:53,319 --> 00:40:55,522 - You still have two younger sisters there. 852 00:40:55,555 --> 00:40:57,190 The only way to stop what's going on 853 00:40:57,223 --> 00:40:59,392 is to-to stop Warren. 854 00:40:59,426 --> 00:41:03,530 And what can be done is to bring charges against him. 855 00:41:03,563 --> 00:41:05,131 And it was hard for me to hear that 856 00:41:05,165 --> 00:41:07,167 because it's like, yeah, I want Warren to stop. 857 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,669 But do I really want to be that person 858 00:41:09,703 --> 00:41:11,838 to step into those shoes? - Yeah. 859 00:41:11,871 --> 00:41:13,640 - But as she thought about those little girls, 860 00:41:13,673 --> 00:41:16,109 sisters, cousins, innocents. 861 00:41:16,142 --> 00:41:20,080 She knew leaving the FLDS to save herself 862 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,581 wasn't enough. 863 00:41:21,614 --> 00:41:22,649 - Yeah, I thought, 864 00:41:22,682 --> 00:41:24,217 I can't sit by and let this happen. 865 00:41:24,250 --> 00:41:26,386 If there was a way that I could have stopped it 866 00:41:26,419 --> 00:41:27,887 and I didn't, I don't know 867 00:41:27,921 --> 00:41:31,758 if I could have lived with myself knowing that. 868 00:41:31,791 --> 00:41:34,160 - So Rebecca and especially, her brother, 869 00:41:34,194 --> 00:41:36,196 knowing Elissa had a strong case, 870 00:41:36,229 --> 00:41:39,632 urged her to file charges against her husband Allen Steed 871 00:41:39,666 --> 00:41:42,902 and Warren Jeffs to stop the abuse. 872 00:41:42,936 --> 00:41:46,106 - I had known for a while that both Arizona and Utah 873 00:41:46,106 --> 00:41:47,974 were searching for a witness. 874 00:41:48,008 --> 00:41:50,243 And that they were hoping 875 00:41:50,276 --> 00:41:51,544 that I would come forward. - Yeah. 876 00:41:51,578 --> 00:41:54,014 - Ultimately, coming forward was a choice I made. 877 00:41:54,114 --> 00:41:56,716 I realized whatever the pressure, 878 00:41:56,750 --> 00:41:59,619 whatever the cost, 879 00:41:59,652 --> 00:42:04,190 that I owed it to myself and the future of other girls 880 00:42:04,224 --> 00:42:06,059 to speak my truth. 881 00:42:06,059 --> 00:42:08,395 - And so you came forward? 882 00:42:08,428 --> 00:42:10,063 - We came forward. 883 00:42:11,498 --> 00:42:14,668 - So in 2006, Elissa, by then cut off from 884 00:42:14,701 --> 00:42:17,937 family members still in the FLDS here in the Creek, 885 00:42:17,971 --> 00:42:20,707 made her accusations official. 886 00:42:20,740 --> 00:42:23,309 Warren Jeffs was charged with two counts of rape 887 00:42:23,343 --> 00:42:25,078 as an accomplice. 888 00:42:25,078 --> 00:42:26,746 Just one little problem. 889 00:42:26,780 --> 00:42:29,215 The prophet had disappeared. 890 00:42:31,951 --> 00:42:35,488 - Coming up, a spiritual leader missing. 891 00:42:35,522 --> 00:42:37,757 Where on Earth could he be? 892 00:42:37,791 --> 00:42:39,192 - He went to Disneyland, 893 00:42:39,225 --> 00:42:42,262 he went to strip clubs and had a good old time. 894 00:42:53,573 --> 00:42:55,742 - Welcome back to "Dateline: Secrets Uncovered". 895 00:42:56,109 --> 00:42:57,544 I'm Kate Snow. 896 00:42:57,577 --> 00:43:00,480 Rebecca Musser and her sister Elissa Wall 897 00:43:00,513 --> 00:43:03,316 had both escaped a life of polygamy. 898 00:43:03,350 --> 00:43:05,719 Now, they faced another challenge. 899 00:43:05,752 --> 00:43:07,120 At Rebecca's urging, 900 00:43:07,153 --> 00:43:10,924 Elissa filed charges against her husband, Allen Steed 901 00:43:10,957 --> 00:43:14,060 and Prophet Warren Jeffs for the alleged abuse 902 00:43:14,060 --> 00:43:15,929 she suffered while married. 903 00:43:15,962 --> 00:43:18,431 Prosecutors were determined to expose 904 00:43:18,465 --> 00:43:21,067 the religious leaders' seedy secrets. 905 00:43:21,067 --> 00:43:23,770 But first, they'd have to find him. 906 00:43:23,803 --> 00:43:26,339 Back to Keith Morrison, with "Unbreakable". 907 00:43:29,409 --> 00:43:31,845 - Where was Warren Jeffs? 908 00:43:31,878 --> 00:43:33,580 It was 2006. 909 00:43:33,613 --> 00:43:35,715 Warren Jeffs was a wanted man accused 910 00:43:35,749 --> 00:43:38,251 of arranging the illegal underage marriage 911 00:43:38,284 --> 00:43:40,186 of Rebecca's sister Elissa, 912 00:43:40,220 --> 00:43:42,722 and thus of sanctioning rape. 913 00:43:42,756 --> 00:43:44,124 But Warren Jeffs had been underground 914 00:43:44,157 --> 00:43:46,459 for more than two years by then 915 00:43:46,493 --> 00:43:49,763 because this wasn't his only trouble. 916 00:43:49,796 --> 00:43:53,199 Remember those two lawsuits the prophet was already facing? 917 00:43:53,233 --> 00:43:56,369 Incentive, apparently, to take a very long trip, 918 00:43:56,403 --> 00:43:59,673 even the FBI couldn't seem to find him. 919 00:43:59,706 --> 00:44:01,408 - Today, Warren Steed Jeffs was placed 920 00:44:01,441 --> 00:44:04,611 on the FBI'S 10 Most Wanted fugitive list. 921 00:44:04,644 --> 00:44:07,047 - Mind you, private investigator Sam Brower 922 00:44:07,047 --> 00:44:11,151 was hearing stories from his sources in the FLDS. 923 00:44:11,184 --> 00:44:12,786 - He was traveling around the country, 924 00:44:12,819 --> 00:44:14,788 going from state, to state, to state. 925 00:44:14,821 --> 00:44:16,956 And just trying to stay hidden. 926 00:44:17,057 --> 00:44:20,427 - On the road, it appeared, the prophet wasn't exactly 927 00:44:20,460 --> 00:44:23,096 practicing what he preached. 928 00:44:23,129 --> 00:44:26,099 He went to Disneyland, he went to Mardi Gras, 929 00:44:26,132 --> 00:44:30,203 and went to the strip clubs, and had a good old time. 930 00:44:30,236 --> 00:44:33,206 Warren also turned up here in West Texas, 931 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,909 very rural West Texas, where he was helping to oversee 932 00:44:35,942 --> 00:44:39,412 the construction of a brand new community for the FLDS. 933 00:44:39,446 --> 00:44:40,680 A place called 934 00:44:40,714 --> 00:44:44,684 the Yearning for Zion Ranch or YFZ, 935 00:44:44,718 --> 00:44:47,253 far away from the prying eyes of the wider world, 936 00:44:47,287 --> 00:44:50,924 but in a state where the age of consent-- 937 00:44:50,957 --> 00:44:54,928 the age at which a person could marry was 14. 938 00:44:54,961 --> 00:44:58,765 Here, they would build a shining white temple 939 00:44:58,798 --> 00:45:01,101 for the church. 940 00:45:01,134 --> 00:45:03,870 The project was to say the least, ambitious. 941 00:45:03,903 --> 00:45:06,639 A whole town went up around the temple. 942 00:45:06,673 --> 00:45:09,042 These were the most faithful FLDS followers. 943 00:45:09,075 --> 00:45:11,378 And this little settlement literally, 944 00:45:11,411 --> 00:45:14,481 their place to wait for Zion. 945 00:45:14,514 --> 00:45:16,516 They farmed the land, raised the livestock, 946 00:45:16,549 --> 00:45:19,185 built the big quality homes for their many children, 947 00:45:19,219 --> 00:45:22,355 and schools, and machine shops, and factories-- 948 00:45:22,389 --> 00:45:24,624 a self-sufficient little world. 949 00:45:24,657 --> 00:45:26,693 - There were no building codes in the county 950 00:45:26,726 --> 00:45:28,194 where he was building. 951 00:45:28,228 --> 00:45:30,230 They could just start building something. 952 00:45:30,263 --> 00:45:32,632 Of course, in Warren's mind, it was God telling him 953 00:45:32,665 --> 00:45:37,103 to go out there and do this-- to find places of refuge. 954 00:45:37,137 --> 00:45:38,605 - Warren Jeffs oversaw construction 955 00:45:38,638 --> 00:45:40,573 and settlement of the ranch, 956 00:45:40,607 --> 00:45:42,776 but never spent long stretches of time here 957 00:45:42,809 --> 00:45:44,778 or anywhere else-- 958 00:45:44,811 --> 00:45:48,848 one reason why he kept eluding law enforcement. 959 00:45:48,882 --> 00:45:51,284 And then in August 2006, 960 00:45:51,317 --> 00:45:54,788 on a lonely stretch of Interstate 15 near Las Vegas, 961 00:45:54,821 --> 00:45:59,092 the Nevada State troopers spotted a red Cadillac Escalade 962 00:45:59,092 --> 00:46:01,895 that appeared to have no license plates. 963 00:46:01,928 --> 00:46:04,531 He flashed his light, pulled over the SUV. 964 00:46:04,564 --> 00:46:07,801 The driver was a tall, thin man. 965 00:46:07,834 --> 00:46:09,803 - His carotid artery was pulsating 966 00:46:09,836 --> 00:46:11,037 on the right side of his neck. 967 00:46:11,071 --> 00:46:14,541 I'd even at one point told him, is everything okay? 968 00:46:14,574 --> 00:46:16,376 You seem nervous. 969 00:46:16,409 --> 00:46:18,845 - The cop ran the tall man's license. 970 00:46:18,878 --> 00:46:23,750 It was the prophet and fugitive Warren Jeffs. 971 00:46:23,783 --> 00:46:25,085 - I'd like to announce the arrest of 972 00:46:25,118 --> 00:46:29,489 FBI Top 10 Most Wanted fugitive Warren Steed Jeffs. 973 00:46:29,522 --> 00:46:32,692 - Sam Brower heard right away about Warren Jeffs' arrest 974 00:46:32,726 --> 00:46:35,862 and about what cops found in the Escalade. 975 00:46:35,895 --> 00:46:39,666 All kinds of disguises; wigs, sunglasses, 976 00:46:39,699 --> 00:46:42,469 cell phones, thousands of dollars in cash, 977 00:46:42,502 --> 00:46:45,171 prepaid credit cards, and phone cards. 978 00:46:45,205 --> 00:46:48,975 - Everything somebody on the run from the law would need. 979 00:46:49,075 --> 00:46:52,579 - Including several computer drives-- several. 980 00:46:52,612 --> 00:46:54,080 One in particular, 981 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,883 featured a rather odd recording of Warren Jeffs 982 00:46:56,916 --> 00:47:00,186 having a mumbled conversation with a young girl. 983 00:47:04,457 --> 00:47:06,593 - A few days later, Warren Jeffs appeared at a hearing 984 00:47:06,626 --> 00:47:08,361 to extradite him back to Utah 985 00:47:08,395 --> 00:47:10,930 to face charges in Elissa's case. 986 00:47:11,031 --> 00:47:13,433 - Are you Warren Jeffs? - Yes. 987 00:47:13,466 --> 00:47:14,501 - All right, Mr. Jeffs-- 988 00:47:14,534 --> 00:47:15,502 - When I found out that he was caught, 989 00:47:15,535 --> 00:47:16,936 I was shocked. 990 00:47:17,037 --> 00:47:19,305 Surely now, the rest of the FLDS people can see. 991 00:47:19,339 --> 00:47:21,408 He's just a fake. 992 00:47:21,441 --> 00:47:23,777 Everything that he was telling them 993 00:47:23,810 --> 00:47:25,345 that was evil, and dark, 994 00:47:25,378 --> 00:47:29,282 and wicked to do, he was out doing. 995 00:47:29,315 --> 00:47:31,651 - For a moment at least, it seemed as if 996 00:47:31,685 --> 00:47:36,056 the self-proclaimed prophet was having some doubt of his own. 997 00:47:36,056 --> 00:47:37,557 This is a jailhouse meeting 998 00:47:37,590 --> 00:47:39,392 with one of Warren Jeffs' brothers, 999 00:47:39,426 --> 00:47:42,562 which just happened to be caught on camera. 1000 00:47:53,340 --> 00:47:55,842 - But his stunning revelation, 1001 00:47:55,875 --> 00:47:58,478 if that's what it was, didn't last. 1002 00:47:58,511 --> 00:48:02,015 When the outburst went public, he had an explanation. 1003 00:48:02,015 --> 00:48:06,653 - Warren made the statement that the devil appeared to him 1004 00:48:06,686 --> 00:48:09,055 as a pillar of light in his jail cell 1005 00:48:09,089 --> 00:48:10,023 and deceived him. 1006 00:48:10,056 --> 00:48:12,826 And that's why he was saying those things. 1007 00:48:12,859 --> 00:48:14,561 - And in spite of it all, 1008 00:48:14,594 --> 00:48:16,896 the vast majority of FLDS members 1009 00:48:16,930 --> 00:48:19,733 continued to believe in Warren Jeffs, 1010 00:48:19,766 --> 00:48:21,935 including Rebecca's own mother 1011 00:48:22,035 --> 00:48:24,204 who had no idea that her daughters 1012 00:48:24,237 --> 00:48:27,774 were actively working against her prophet. 1013 00:48:27,807 --> 00:48:30,143 - After he was caught, my mother called me. 1014 00:48:30,176 --> 00:48:31,644 And she asked me, 1015 00:48:31,678 --> 00:48:34,547 "Who has charges against our prophet?" 1016 00:48:34,581 --> 00:48:35,915 And I wasn't going to lie to her, 1017 00:48:35,949 --> 00:48:38,518 but I certainly wasn't going to tell her either. 1018 00:48:38,551 --> 00:48:40,820 And she said to me, "Well, honey, 1019 00:48:40,854 --> 00:48:43,623 I hope it's not you or any of my children 1020 00:48:43,656 --> 00:48:47,293 because I would rather see every single one of my children 1021 00:48:47,327 --> 00:48:49,963 laid in the grave before any one of you 1022 00:48:50,063 --> 00:48:53,400 stand up against our prophet. 1023 00:48:53,433 --> 00:48:56,603 - It was the fall of 2007, when Warren Jeffs went on trial 1024 00:48:56,636 --> 00:48:59,272 in St. George, Utah, facing two felony counts 1025 00:48:59,305 --> 00:49:02,008 of rape as an accomplice for arranging 1026 00:49:02,042 --> 00:49:06,513 the underage spiritual marriage of Elissa Wall. 1027 00:49:06,546 --> 00:49:09,215 And one of the key witnesses against him 1028 00:49:09,249 --> 00:49:13,019 was the woman he once called Mother Becky. 1029 00:49:13,053 --> 00:49:16,089 Shoe was on the other foot now. 1030 00:49:16,122 --> 00:49:19,759 - The last time that I had seen Warren before that trial, 1031 00:49:19,793 --> 00:49:21,027 was in his office when he said, 1032 00:49:21,061 --> 00:49:24,698 "I will break you." And he looked over at me. 1033 00:49:24,731 --> 00:49:26,066 And I looked him square in the eyes. 1034 00:49:26,099 --> 00:49:30,136 And it was as if we both nodded slightly, 1035 00:49:30,170 --> 00:49:33,573 as if to say, we meet again. 1036 00:49:33,606 --> 00:49:37,210 - Rebecca and her sister aim to bring down a prophet, 1037 00:49:37,243 --> 00:49:41,114 and the stakes could not be higher. 1038 00:49:41,147 --> 00:49:44,050 Coming up, why Warren Jeffs 1039 00:49:44,050 --> 00:49:46,786 stood to become even more powerful. 1040 00:49:46,820 --> 00:49:49,089 - If he was to walk away a free man, 1041 00:49:49,122 --> 00:49:50,824 it would prove to them that he really, 1042 00:49:50,857 --> 00:49:52,826 truly was God's disciple. 1043 00:49:52,859 --> 00:49:56,463 - When Dateline: Secrets Uncovered continues. 1044 00:50:05,171 --> 00:50:08,174 Warren Jeffs was about to make history. 1045 00:50:08,208 --> 00:50:10,643 For the first time ever, a prophet of the FLDS, 1046 00:50:10,677 --> 00:50:15,248 a man who spoke to God was going to go on trial. 1047 00:50:15,281 --> 00:50:17,517 And what made it all the more dramatic, 1048 00:50:17,550 --> 00:50:19,219 the case was a direct assault on 1049 00:50:19,252 --> 00:50:22,288 the prophet's religious practice. 1050 00:50:22,322 --> 00:50:25,091 Warren Jeffs was facing two felony counts 1051 00:50:25,125 --> 00:50:27,761 of rape as an accomplice of Elissa Wall, 1052 00:50:27,794 --> 00:50:29,262 Rebecca's sister. 1053 00:50:29,295 --> 00:50:31,931 - The most important thing to me was that the real truth 1054 00:50:31,965 --> 00:50:34,100 of what was happening, got out. 1055 00:50:34,134 --> 00:50:35,535 - Elissa prepared to testify 1056 00:50:35,568 --> 00:50:38,772 that Warren Jeffs ordered her to marry at 14, 1057 00:50:38,805 --> 00:50:40,974 and then ignored her pleas for help, 1058 00:50:41,007 --> 00:50:44,144 when she was sexually abused by her husband. 1059 00:50:44,177 --> 00:50:47,280 - Walking into the courtroom and seeing Warren there-- 1060 00:50:47,313 --> 00:50:50,617 I remember looking at him, and our eyes locking 1061 00:50:50,650 --> 00:50:55,622 in an unbreakable death stare, and holding my ground, 1062 00:50:55,655 --> 00:50:58,258 facing him and not looking down. 1063 00:50:58,291 --> 00:51:03,763 But to hold his gaze was like the shackles breaking away. 1064 00:51:03,797 --> 00:51:06,666 - Arranged marriages, underage brides, 1065 00:51:06,700 --> 00:51:09,402 religious freedom-- all on trial. 1066 00:51:09,436 --> 00:51:13,406 But it was also the first time that someone inside the FLDS 1067 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,309 would speak out publicly in a criminal case 1068 00:51:16,343 --> 00:51:18,878 against the prophet. 1069 00:51:18,912 --> 00:51:20,814 A grainy courtroom camera rolled 1070 00:51:20,847 --> 00:51:22,615 as the prosecution presented its case 1071 00:51:22,649 --> 00:51:24,084 against Warren Jeffs, 1072 00:51:24,084 --> 00:51:28,088 alleging he enticed 14-year-old Elissa into marriage 1073 00:51:28,088 --> 00:51:30,323 and insisted she obey her husband 1074 00:51:30,357 --> 00:51:32,392 and his sexual demands. 1075 00:51:47,774 --> 00:51:49,409 - But the defense team insisted that what happened 1076 00:51:49,442 --> 00:51:51,011 between Alyssa and her husband 1077 00:51:51,111 --> 00:51:54,614 was her husband's doing, not Warren Jeffs. 1078 00:51:54,647 --> 00:51:57,450 The prophet had only offered advice, they said, 1079 00:51:57,484 --> 00:51:59,686 on improving the marriage. 1080 00:52:09,562 --> 00:52:11,965 - Elissa, who was 21 by this time, 1081 00:52:12,065 --> 00:52:14,968 because she was a minor when the alleged crime happened, 1082 00:52:15,068 --> 00:52:16,936 the camera didn't show her face 1083 00:52:16,970 --> 00:52:18,338 when she told how she was taught 1084 00:52:18,371 --> 00:52:21,675 to always obey the prophet. 1085 00:52:30,216 --> 00:52:33,386 - But the prosecution needed more than Elissa's story. 1086 00:52:33,420 --> 00:52:36,389 They needed what Rebecca could tell them. 1087 00:52:36,423 --> 00:52:39,459 - They said, we can prove that your sister was raped. 1088 00:52:39,492 --> 00:52:43,363 But it's your testimony that links Warren to the crime. 1089 00:52:43,396 --> 00:52:46,533 Because you were in the prophet's family, 1090 00:52:46,566 --> 00:52:49,235 you were schooled by him, and you understand the training 1091 00:52:49,269 --> 00:52:51,371 and the culture of this. 1092 00:52:51,404 --> 00:52:54,107 - And so Rebecca came to court and saw Warren Jeffs 1093 00:52:54,140 --> 00:52:57,143 for the first time since she left Short Creek. 1094 00:52:57,177 --> 00:53:00,046 And before she spoke, before she took the oath, 1095 00:53:00,046 --> 00:53:05,318 she made a statement-- not in words, in what she wore. 1096 00:53:05,352 --> 00:53:08,888 - We were not allowed to wear the color red, growing up. 1097 00:53:08,922 --> 00:53:12,225 - And Warren had gone into extensive preaching 1098 00:53:12,258 --> 00:53:16,396 about how evil, and dark, and immoral the color red was. 1099 00:53:16,429 --> 00:53:20,066 So I thought, hmm, how could I send him a message 1100 00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:22,302 that he never broke me? 1101 00:53:22,335 --> 00:53:25,071 So I chose to wear the color red. 1102 00:53:25,071 --> 00:53:28,408 - Rebecca testified how Warren Jeffs created, condoned, 1103 00:53:28,441 --> 00:53:30,777 and encouraged a culture ripe for abuse. 1104 00:53:41,454 --> 00:53:44,491 - For two weeks, Warren Jeffs watched in silence 1105 00:53:44,524 --> 00:53:46,760 as the case played out before him. 1106 00:53:46,793 --> 00:53:48,595 And then the jury took up the question-- 1107 00:53:48,628 --> 00:53:50,330 protection of girls versus 1108 00:53:50,363 --> 00:53:54,134 the prophet's idea of correct religious practice. 1109 00:53:54,167 --> 00:53:57,237 - I knew that if he was to walk away a free man, 1110 00:53:57,270 --> 00:53:59,506 it would just ingrain the people of the FLDS. 1111 00:53:59,539 --> 00:54:01,307 Because it would prove to them that he really, 1112 00:54:01,341 --> 00:54:03,810 truly was God's disciple. 1113 00:54:03,843 --> 00:54:07,047 It didn't take the jury long to reach a verdict. 1114 00:54:07,047 --> 00:54:09,249 - Mr. Jeffs, would you please stand-- 1115 00:54:09,282 --> 00:54:11,051 - Warren Jeffs, in his charcoal gray suit, 1116 00:54:11,051 --> 00:54:14,788 stood up to hear the verdict, somber and silent as always. 1117 00:54:14,821 --> 00:54:17,123 - Count one that the defendant 1118 00:54:17,157 --> 00:54:19,359 is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt 1119 00:54:19,392 --> 00:54:23,496 of the crime charges of rape as an accomplice. 1120 00:54:23,530 --> 00:54:25,965 - Guilty on both felony counts. 1121 00:54:26,066 --> 00:54:29,102 The prophet was sentenced to 10 years in prison. 1122 00:54:29,135 --> 00:54:31,504 Allen Steed had been charged with one count of rape 1123 00:54:31,538 --> 00:54:33,606 but denied the allegations. 1124 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,875 Later, he pleaded to reduce charges 1125 00:54:35,909 --> 00:54:38,078 two third degree felonies 1126 00:54:38,078 --> 00:54:39,913 and was sentenced to 30 days in jail 1127 00:54:39,946 --> 00:54:42,082 along with three years probation. 1128 00:54:42,082 --> 00:54:44,718 - This has not been easy for us. 1129 00:54:44,751 --> 00:54:49,356 The easy thing would have been to do nothing. 1130 00:54:49,389 --> 00:54:55,095 But I have followed my heart, and I've spoken the truth. 1131 00:54:55,128 --> 00:54:58,765 - And Rebecca finally felt vindicated. 1132 00:54:58,798 --> 00:55:00,133 - I spoke. I testified. 1133 00:55:00,166 --> 00:55:01,835 He was found guilty. 1134 00:55:01,868 --> 00:55:04,804 And I wore red and it wasn't like 1135 00:55:04,838 --> 00:55:07,173 the world went into massive explosions 1136 00:55:07,207 --> 00:55:08,475 or earthquakes. 1137 00:55:08,508 --> 00:55:09,676 I was so relieved. 1138 00:55:09,709 --> 00:55:12,345 And I just thought, finally, it's over. 1139 00:55:12,379 --> 00:55:15,415 - It wasn't over though, was it? - No. 1140 00:55:15,448 --> 00:55:17,851 - In fact, it was just beginning 1141 00:55:17,884 --> 00:55:20,320 because a whole new and much more complicated case 1142 00:55:20,353 --> 00:55:24,257 was about to explode, deep in the heart of Texas. 1143 00:55:24,290 --> 00:55:27,193 And soon, Rebecca would find herself 1144 00:55:27,227 --> 00:55:30,930 smack in the middle of it. 1145 00:55:30,964 --> 00:55:32,399 - Coming up... 1146 00:55:32,432 --> 00:55:35,669 investigators discover a mind-boggling scene, 1147 00:55:35,702 --> 00:55:39,773 while Rebecca watches from afar, holding her breath. 1148 00:55:39,806 --> 00:55:42,075 - It felt like I was being ripped apart. 1149 00:55:42,075 --> 00:55:45,412 - When Dateline: Secrets Uncovered continues. 1150 00:55:55,155 --> 00:56:00,493 - The prophet was now in prison. It was spring 2008. 1151 00:56:00,527 --> 00:56:01,761 But even behind bars, 1152 00:56:01,795 --> 00:56:04,764 Warren Jeffs was still very much in power 1153 00:56:04,798 --> 00:56:06,933 and maintaining control over his flock, 1154 00:56:07,033 --> 00:56:09,235 especially the FLDS community, 1155 00:56:09,269 --> 00:56:12,072 which had recently sprung up in West Texas. 1156 00:56:12,105 --> 00:56:16,142 By this time, the 1800 acre, yearning for Zion Ranch 1157 00:56:16,176 --> 00:56:19,212 and its sparkling new temple were complete. 1158 00:56:19,245 --> 00:56:20,613 Local law enforcement 1159 00:56:20,647 --> 00:56:22,449 was keeping a close eye on the ranch, 1160 00:56:22,482 --> 00:56:24,818 curious about it but also concerned about 1161 00:56:24,851 --> 00:56:27,487 what was taking shape out there in the desert. 1162 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,689 Nick Hanna was a Texas Ranger. 1163 00:56:29,723 --> 00:56:31,591 - The West Texas people are generally pretty friendly 1164 00:56:31,624 --> 00:56:33,326 and pretty welcoming individuals. 1165 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,428 But they were certainly concerned because 1166 00:56:35,462 --> 00:56:39,399 you know, Texas has a history of having some incidents involving, 1167 00:56:39,432 --> 00:56:43,203 whether it be Waco or, you know, the Branch Davidians. 1168 00:56:43,236 --> 00:56:46,539 - As YFZ was under construction, the Texas legislature 1169 00:56:46,573 --> 00:56:49,209 changed the age at which a person could marry 1170 00:56:49,242 --> 00:56:54,814 with parental consent from 14 to 16. 1171 00:56:54,848 --> 00:56:56,649 Rebecca heard about the ranch too. 1172 00:56:56,683 --> 00:57:00,020 She wondered if any members of her family had moved there. 1173 00:57:00,020 --> 00:57:01,454 So she checked with the local sheriff 1174 00:57:01,488 --> 00:57:02,922 to see what he knew. 1175 00:57:03,023 --> 00:57:04,524 Nothing, it turned out. 1176 00:57:04,557 --> 00:57:09,529 But he did begin using Rebecca as a sort of interpreter. 1177 00:57:09,562 --> 00:57:11,731 - He would call me periodically a-and ask, 1178 00:57:11,765 --> 00:57:12,799 "Can you tell me about this? 1179 00:57:12,832 --> 00:57:18,705 "Or can you tell me what this means to them? 1180 00:57:18,738 --> 00:57:21,641 - Then on an early spring day in March 2008, 1181 00:57:21,675 --> 00:57:24,944 authorities in nearby San Angelo got a call from a woman 1182 00:57:25,045 --> 00:57:28,081 who said her name was Sarah Barlow-- 1183 00:57:28,114 --> 00:57:31,317 claimed she lived at the ranch, and was being abused, 1184 00:57:31,351 --> 00:57:35,088 and held against her will by her husband. 1185 00:57:35,121 --> 00:57:37,524 - She was a young girl, and I think 1186 00:57:37,557 --> 00:57:39,225 at the time of the phone call, 16. 1187 00:57:39,259 --> 00:57:42,362 She had already given birth to a child. 1188 00:57:42,395 --> 00:57:45,165 And with her age, we're able to do the math 1189 00:57:45,198 --> 00:57:46,633 and recognize that that would have been 1190 00:57:46,666 --> 00:57:48,835 a sexual assault of a child. 1191 00:57:48,868 --> 00:57:52,372 - So what was the plan then? - To find Sarah Barlow. 1192 00:57:54,574 --> 00:57:57,210 - On April 3rd 2008, the Rangers, 1193 00:57:57,243 --> 00:58:01,147 child protective services in tow, arrived at the ranch. 1194 00:58:01,181 --> 00:58:04,317 - And the women were in prairie dresses essentially. 1195 00:58:04,351 --> 00:58:05,618 Most of the buildings were constructed 1196 00:58:05,652 --> 00:58:08,555 in, like, a log cabin type nature. 1197 00:58:08,588 --> 00:58:11,925 And so it almost seemed like you had gone back in time 1198 00:58:12,025 --> 00:58:15,428 to a period that America left long ago. 1199 00:58:15,462 --> 00:58:17,797 - Whether the Rangers knew it or not, 1200 00:58:17,831 --> 00:58:20,033 they had just confirmed the worst fears-- 1201 00:58:20,033 --> 00:58:23,036 here and everywhere, of the FLDS faithful, 1202 00:58:23,036 --> 00:58:26,039 whose prophets had preached the warning for generations. 1203 00:58:26,072 --> 00:58:28,274 Ever since that, still vividly remembered 1204 00:58:28,308 --> 00:58:30,110 raid on the church in Short Creek, 1205 00:58:30,143 --> 00:58:32,679 way back in 1953. 1206 00:58:32,712 --> 00:58:35,281 The fact which some 1,500 miles away, 1207 00:58:35,315 --> 00:58:37,851 Rebecca knew very well. 1208 00:58:37,884 --> 00:58:40,053 - It was like two worlds crashing together 1209 00:58:40,086 --> 00:58:42,088 and having a major explosion inside of me. 1210 00:58:42,122 --> 00:58:45,458 It felt like I was being ripped apart. 1211 00:58:45,492 --> 00:58:48,628 - And almost immediately, it seemed to go wrong. 1212 00:58:48,661 --> 00:58:52,365 Instead of the 300 to 400 people the Rangers expected to find, 1213 00:58:52,399 --> 00:58:54,434 there were something like 700, 1214 00:58:54,467 --> 00:58:59,072 including more than 400 children and dozens of teenage girls. 1215 00:58:59,072 --> 00:59:00,640 Finding Sarah was like 1216 00:59:00,674 --> 00:59:03,243 looking for a needle in a haystack. 1217 00:59:03,276 --> 00:59:05,478 - It was a very confusing situation. 1218 00:59:05,512 --> 00:59:07,147 Most of these ladies dressed alike, 1219 00:59:07,180 --> 00:59:10,083 they sounded alike, their hair was fixed the same. 1220 00:59:10,116 --> 00:59:11,618 And there was only about four or five 1221 00:59:11,651 --> 00:59:14,387 very common names on the ranch. - Uh-huh. 1222 00:59:14,421 --> 00:59:16,289 - And so it was very difficult as you might imagine, 1223 00:59:16,322 --> 00:59:19,826 to differentiate, who belongs to who? 1224 00:59:19,859 --> 00:59:25,365 And who is who? - Then it got worse. 1225 00:59:25,398 --> 00:59:28,301 SWAT teams arrived, snipers, 1226 00:59:28,335 --> 00:59:31,705 even an armored personnel carrier. 1227 00:59:31,738 --> 00:59:34,341 And, well, terrified residents cowered. 1228 00:59:34,374 --> 00:59:35,909 The Rangers searched every house, 1229 00:59:35,942 --> 00:59:38,912 every classroom, meeting room, birthing center, 1230 00:59:38,945 --> 00:59:44,718 looking for the elusive Sarah. Nothing, except-- 1231 00:59:44,751 --> 00:59:47,821 - We started seeing signs in plain view of other abuse. 1232 00:59:47,854 --> 00:59:51,725 We saw young girls with babies. And young girls-- 1233 00:59:51,758 --> 00:59:53,093 or at least appeared to be young, 1234 00:59:53,126 --> 00:59:55,061 that were expecting. 1235 00:59:55,095 --> 00:59:57,497 And during these interviews, looking for Sarah, 1236 00:59:57,530 --> 01:00:00,767 evidence of other crimes became apparent pretty quickly. 1237 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,571 So now that we see them, we're duty bound to act 1238 01:00:04,604 --> 01:00:06,740 on these instances of child abuse 1239 01:00:06,773 --> 01:00:11,511 or sexual abuse of young girls. 1240 01:00:11,544 --> 01:00:12,879 - Several of the girls interviewed by 1241 01:00:12,912 --> 01:00:15,348 Child Protective Services said they had been 1242 01:00:15,382 --> 01:00:17,851 spiritually united with adult men. 1243 01:00:17,884 --> 01:00:20,086 That no age was too young for this. 1244 01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,555 And it was the prophet who decided when 1245 01:00:22,589 --> 01:00:26,226 and whom they should marry. 1246 01:00:26,259 --> 01:00:28,061 The next day, 18 girls were determined 1247 01:00:28,094 --> 01:00:31,998 to have been abused, or at imminent risk of abuse, 1248 01:00:32,032 --> 01:00:34,534 and were removed from the ranch. 1249 01:00:34,567 --> 01:00:37,537 And then over the next two days, dozens more children-- 1250 01:00:37,570 --> 01:00:39,539 some very young, 1251 01:00:39,572 --> 01:00:41,341 were forcibly removed from their parents 1252 01:00:41,374 --> 01:00:44,544 and taken to temporary housing. 1253 01:00:44,577 --> 01:00:47,147 - My two-year-old son was screaming, 1254 01:00:47,180 --> 01:00:50,517 "Mother don't let him take me. Don't let him take me. 1255 01:00:50,550 --> 01:00:53,887 I want to stay with you, mother. Mother, please hold me." 1256 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,389 - And then four days after the raid began 1257 01:00:56,423 --> 01:00:57,590 a court order was issued 1258 01:00:57,624 --> 01:01:00,093 to take away all the remaining children 1259 01:01:00,126 --> 01:01:01,761 until a better assessment could be made 1260 01:01:01,795 --> 01:01:04,764 of what was going on inside the YFZ Ranch. 1261 01:01:04,798 --> 01:01:08,768 This time however, mothers but not fathers 1262 01:01:08,802 --> 01:01:11,071 were allowed to go with them. 1263 01:01:11,071 --> 01:01:14,107 - They had been predispositioned to believe that 1264 01:01:14,140 --> 01:01:16,376 anyone from the outside was evil. 1265 01:01:16,409 --> 01:01:18,778 And we had no desire to go onto the ranch 1266 01:01:18,812 --> 01:01:21,081 for any other reason other than the call. 1267 01:01:21,081 --> 01:01:24,284 You can't ignore a young girl's cries for help. 1268 01:01:24,317 --> 01:01:28,321 You've got to act. 1269 01:01:28,355 --> 01:01:29,823 - Some of the mothers and their children 1270 01:01:29,856 --> 01:01:31,991 who had been separated were reunited 1271 01:01:32,092 --> 01:01:33,893 at a makeshift shelter. 1272 01:01:33,927 --> 01:01:35,695 Eventually, all of them were transported to 1273 01:01:35,729 --> 01:01:39,199 an overburdened sports arena here in San Angelo. 1274 01:01:39,232 --> 01:01:41,801 And many FLDS members, young and old, 1275 01:01:41,835 --> 01:01:46,239 were required to line up and submit samples of their DNA. 1276 01:01:46,272 --> 01:01:48,875 And then scores of toddlers and children 1277 01:01:48,908 --> 01:01:51,277 were shipped off to foster homes around the state. 1278 01:01:51,311 --> 01:01:53,580 Some of them, hundreds of miles away, 1279 01:01:53,613 --> 01:01:56,783 to live with families whose culture they did not know. 1280 01:01:56,816 --> 01:01:59,853 For how long? They did not know. 1281 01:01:59,886 --> 01:02:03,390 This, said the state, was for their protection. 1282 01:02:03,423 --> 01:02:06,793 - This is not about members. This is about children, 1283 01:02:06,826 --> 01:02:08,661 who are at imminent risk of harm. 1284 01:02:08,695 --> 01:02:12,565 Children that we believe have been abused or neglected. 1285 01:02:12,599 --> 01:02:15,769 - The images set off a firestorm of controversy. 1286 01:02:15,802 --> 01:02:19,572 Former FLDS attorney Rod Parker-- 1287 01:02:19,606 --> 01:02:21,141 - What the state did was-- 1288 01:02:21,174 --> 01:02:24,077 i-in traumatizing that entire community 1289 01:02:24,077 --> 01:02:27,080 and all those children, that was wrong. 1290 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,684 What Texas should have done is taken a more targeted approach, 1291 01:02:30,717 --> 01:02:35,555 not just sweep up everybody. 1292 01:02:37,724 --> 01:02:39,559 - We didn't particularly enjoy it either. 1293 01:02:39,592 --> 01:02:42,462 Nobody likes taking a child out of his environment, 1294 01:02:42,495 --> 01:02:43,963 even in the worst of circumstances. 1295 01:02:43,997 --> 01:02:45,432 But the law is the law. 1296 01:02:45,465 --> 01:02:47,701 And the courts spoke and said, "These kids are in danger. 1297 01:02:47,734 --> 01:02:51,104 And so we had to do what we had to do." 1298 01:02:51,137 --> 01:02:53,306 - Mind you, there was still no sign 1299 01:02:53,340 --> 01:02:56,910 of the mysterious Sarah Barlow, whose call had prompted the raid 1300 01:02:56,943 --> 01:02:59,479 and all that followed. 1301 01:02:59,512 --> 01:03:02,916 The Rangers did, however, find files of birth records. 1302 01:03:02,949 --> 01:03:07,454 But untangling the web of names and bloodlines was overwhelming, 1303 01:03:07,487 --> 01:03:09,322 if not impossible. 1304 01:03:09,356 --> 01:03:11,524 - You were essentially learning an entire network 1305 01:03:11,558 --> 01:03:13,426 or community of people. 1306 01:03:13,460 --> 01:03:14,928 - They needed somebody who could tell them 1307 01:03:14,961 --> 01:03:17,063 what it all meant, crack the code, 1308 01:03:17,063 --> 01:03:18,365 unravel the secrets. 1309 01:03:18,398 --> 01:03:22,268 An expert who knew it all, literally from the inside. 1310 01:03:22,302 --> 01:03:25,972 - And finally he said, "We are in over our head. 1311 01:03:26,072 --> 01:03:28,775 Can you please come down and help us?" 1312 01:03:28,808 --> 01:03:32,078 And so I did. 1313 01:03:32,112 --> 01:03:33,713 - And what she exposed 1314 01:03:33,747 --> 01:03:36,416 deep inside the Yearning for Zion Ranch, 1315 01:03:36,449 --> 01:03:39,786 was a very dark and carefully guarded secret 1316 01:03:39,819 --> 01:03:44,691 about a religion and its prophet, Warren Jeffs. 1317 01:03:44,724 --> 01:03:48,661 - Coming up, investigators make a strange discovery, 1318 01:03:48,695 --> 01:03:52,098 but only Rebecca can explain what it means. 1319 01:03:52,098 --> 01:03:54,901 - There was a part of me that hoped that no, 1320 01:03:54,934 --> 01:03:56,736 that can't be right. 1321 01:04:02,109 --> 01:04:07,414 - Welcome back. 1322 01:04:08,848 --> 01:04:12,752 As Warren Jeffs sat in prison, a convicted accomplice to rape, 1323 01:04:12,786 --> 01:04:15,422 his world was crumbling around him. 1324 01:04:15,455 --> 01:04:17,390 Texas Law Enforcement had raided 1325 01:04:17,424 --> 01:04:20,493 the sprawling religious compound he helped create, 1326 01:04:20,527 --> 01:04:24,531 uncovering signs of sexual abuse and other crimes. 1327 01:04:24,564 --> 01:04:27,067 Now, they were about to bring Rebecca Musser 1328 01:04:27,067 --> 01:04:30,236 to the ranch's temple, where she would be the key 1329 01:04:30,270 --> 01:04:33,540 to unlocking explosive church secrets. 1330 01:04:33,573 --> 01:04:35,308 Once again, here's Keith Morrison 1331 01:04:35,342 --> 01:04:37,477 with "Unbreakable." 1332 01:04:37,510 --> 01:04:43,283 ** 1333 01:04:43,316 --> 01:04:45,285 - It sparkled in the Texas sun. 1334 01:04:45,318 --> 01:04:47,354 Its brilliant white spire, pointing to heaven 1335 01:04:47,387 --> 01:04:49,823 from the heart of the Yearning for Zion Ranch. 1336 01:04:49,856 --> 01:04:53,326 This first ever temple of the FLDS-- 1337 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:54,861 gleaming white limestone. 1338 01:04:54,894 --> 01:04:57,430 Every piece cut from the very land it sat on. 1339 01:04:57,464 --> 01:04:59,733 Every square inch of it fashioned by the people 1340 01:04:59,766 --> 01:05:05,672 of the ranch themselves. Every square inch sacred. 1341 01:05:05,705 --> 01:05:08,241 But now, the Texas Rangers were at the door looking, 1342 01:05:08,274 --> 01:05:11,745 they said, for the mysterious Sarah Barlow. 1343 01:05:11,778 --> 01:05:14,781 - We recognize the temple was a symbol to those folks. 1344 01:05:14,814 --> 01:05:18,118 And we didn't want to trample on their beliefs. 1345 01:05:18,151 --> 01:05:20,520 However, we had not found Sarah Barlow. 1346 01:05:20,553 --> 01:05:21,821 All right? 1347 01:05:21,855 --> 01:05:24,257 The search warrant dictated that we searched the premises. 1348 01:05:24,290 --> 01:05:25,392 And that includes any place 1349 01:05:25,425 --> 01:05:27,594 that she could be secreted or hid. 1350 01:05:27,627 --> 01:05:30,363 And obviously, she could be hid there. 1351 01:05:30,397 --> 01:05:33,900 - The temple's giant doors were fashioned in heavy oak 1352 01:05:33,933 --> 01:05:36,136 and were tightly secured. 1353 01:05:36,169 --> 01:05:39,072 - We asked them numerous times, please open the doors. 1354 01:05:39,072 --> 01:05:40,607 Please unlock the doors. 1355 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,075 We don't want to kick the doors in. 1356 01:05:42,075 --> 01:05:44,110 And we don't want to use force to gain entry. 1357 01:05:44,144 --> 01:05:45,879 But any cooperation evidently, 1358 01:05:45,912 --> 01:05:47,881 wasn't a green light about Warren. 1359 01:05:47,914 --> 01:05:51,618 - Rebecca hadn't arrived yet, but she knew what was happening. 1360 01:05:51,651 --> 01:05:54,721 - I was terrified because I didn't know 1361 01:05:54,754 --> 01:05:56,222 what was in that temple. 1362 01:05:56,256 --> 01:06:00,126 I knew how they hold that temple as sacred. 1363 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,028 And I was scared because 1364 01:06:02,028 --> 01:06:03,430 if there was going to be an incident, 1365 01:06:03,463 --> 01:06:06,399 it would have been over that temple. 1366 01:06:06,433 --> 01:06:07,801 - A decision was made. 1367 01:06:07,834 --> 01:06:10,203 The Rangers used a battering ram. 1368 01:06:10,236 --> 01:06:13,340 And at that very moment, said the members of the FLDS, 1369 01:06:13,373 --> 01:06:15,241 their temple was defiled. 1370 01:06:15,275 --> 01:06:17,677 It could never be a temple again. 1371 01:06:17,711 --> 01:06:21,748 - To me, it just signified that the period that it existed 1372 01:06:21,781 --> 01:06:24,584 in secrecy or cloaked for so many years, 1373 01:06:24,617 --> 01:06:27,354 was coming to an end. 1374 01:06:27,387 --> 01:06:29,522 - But Sergeant Hannah and the other investigators 1375 01:06:29,556 --> 01:06:31,057 entered the temple. 1376 01:06:31,057 --> 01:06:32,826 They marveled at its workmanship, 1377 01:06:32,859 --> 01:06:36,229 its elaborate design, its decor. 1378 01:06:36,262 --> 01:06:38,465 - I knew that they might perceive it as defiling it. 1379 01:06:38,498 --> 01:06:41,634 But I knew that we took great measures to respect things 1380 01:06:41,668 --> 01:06:44,070 and not to tear up anything that we didn't have to. 1381 01:06:44,104 --> 01:06:47,140 But whatever it took to make sure 1382 01:06:47,173 --> 01:06:48,708 that there wasn't a victim there, 1383 01:06:48,742 --> 01:06:51,444 is what we were going to do. 1384 01:06:51,478 --> 01:06:55,081 - There was no sign of Sarah or anyone else inside. 1385 01:06:55,081 --> 01:06:57,250 But as they climbed, they could see that each floor 1386 01:06:57,283 --> 01:06:59,853 seemed to have special significance. 1387 01:06:59,886 --> 01:07:02,022 As they rose, the colors of the walls, the floors, 1388 01:07:02,022 --> 01:07:03,723 the furniture changed-- 1389 01:07:03,757 --> 01:07:06,026 each floor distinctively different. 1390 01:07:06,026 --> 01:07:10,030 - The third floor was white. 1391 01:07:10,030 --> 01:07:11,398 And it was brilliant white. 1392 01:07:11,431 --> 01:07:13,166 The drapes were white, the furniture white. 1393 01:07:13,199 --> 01:07:15,035 The tables were white. The chairs were white. 1394 01:07:15,035 --> 01:07:16,069 The carpet was white. 1395 01:07:16,102 --> 01:07:18,071 You almost needed shades when you walked up there. 1396 01:07:18,104 --> 01:07:20,573 And you really did almost get the sense like 1397 01:07:20,607 --> 01:07:23,543 if there is a room in heaven, I bet it looks like this. 1398 01:07:23,576 --> 01:07:25,211 - And on the same floor, 1399 01:07:25,245 --> 01:07:29,849 the Rangers discovered something very strange. 1400 01:07:29,883 --> 01:07:33,053 - Two beds-- and one bed was positioned 1401 01:07:33,053 --> 01:07:37,157 and situated like in a medical clinic. 1402 01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:39,325 - It was a Murphy bed that could be pulled down 1403 01:07:39,359 --> 01:07:43,296 from the wall, with several chairs surrounding it. 1404 01:07:43,329 --> 01:07:45,298 And then in an adjacent hallway, 1405 01:07:45,331 --> 01:07:47,667 they found the parts of another bed, 1406 01:07:47,701 --> 01:07:49,669 which had been disassembled. 1407 01:07:49,703 --> 01:07:52,672 Track marks on the rug suggested it had at some point 1408 01:07:52,706 --> 01:07:54,908 been moved in and out of the white room. 1409 01:07:54,941 --> 01:07:58,211 The Rangers put it back together. 1410 01:07:58,244 --> 01:07:59,879 And this is what it looked like, 1411 01:07:59,913 --> 01:08:02,015 complete with railings and a kneeling bench 1412 01:08:02,015 --> 01:08:04,317 at the foot of the bed. 1413 01:08:04,351 --> 01:08:06,019 - We needed somebody to help us, 1414 01:08:06,019 --> 01:08:10,223 give us some understanding of the culture we were entering 1415 01:08:10,256 --> 01:08:13,026 and the things we read that we didn't understand. 1416 01:08:13,026 --> 01:08:15,128 - So two days after their initial visit, 1417 01:08:15,161 --> 01:08:20,033 the Rangers took Rebecca inside the temple with them. 1418 01:08:20,033 --> 01:08:21,701 - When we got ready to go up to the top floor, 1419 01:08:21,735 --> 01:08:24,270 the Ranger told me-- he said, now, 1420 01:08:24,304 --> 01:08:26,840 if there's any reason that these beds-- 1421 01:08:26,873 --> 01:08:28,675 they had talked about beds in the top floor. 1422 01:08:28,708 --> 01:08:31,878 If there's any reason other than what we might think 1423 01:08:31,911 --> 01:08:35,615 that they're there for, we need to know. 1424 01:08:35,648 --> 01:08:38,952 - The beds-- seeing them, said Rebecca, 1425 01:08:39,052 --> 01:08:42,255 sparked a rush of memories of hearing Uncle Rulon 1426 01:08:42,288 --> 01:08:45,191 and Warren Jeffs talking about sacred ordinances 1427 01:08:45,225 --> 01:08:49,763 to be performed in their, at the time, future temple. 1428 01:08:49,796 --> 01:08:54,367 - I remembered the horror that I felt in Rulon Jeff's home 1429 01:08:54,401 --> 01:08:56,236 as Warren was describing this ordinance 1430 01:08:56,269 --> 01:08:58,104 of a sexual nature, 1431 01:08:58,138 --> 01:09:00,640 where we would be taught the correct positions, 1432 01:09:00,674 --> 01:09:02,776 the correct way to conceive a child, 1433 01:09:02,809 --> 01:09:05,178 the laws of creation. 1434 01:09:05,211 --> 01:09:06,813 - The beds in the temple, 1435 01:09:06,846 --> 01:09:08,581 as far as Rebecca was concerned, 1436 01:09:08,615 --> 01:09:11,384 that was confirmation that Warren Jeffs wasn't just 1437 01:09:11,418 --> 01:09:14,621 teaching underage girls about sex ordinances. 1438 01:09:14,654 --> 01:09:17,657 He was actually performing them. 1439 01:09:17,691 --> 01:09:21,227 - Seeing that bed, seeing the chairs around it-- 1440 01:09:21,261 --> 01:09:23,830 all of the things that Warren described, 1441 01:09:23,863 --> 01:09:26,366 there was a part of me that hoped that, no, 1442 01:09:26,399 --> 01:09:28,034 that can't be right. 1443 01:09:28,034 --> 01:09:29,936 But there was also another part of me that knew, 1444 01:09:30,036 --> 01:09:31,071 there it is. 1445 01:09:31,104 --> 01:09:32,472 There's everything that you were ever taught about it. 1446 01:09:34,674 --> 01:09:38,845 - But there was one more piece of evidence hidden at the ranch. 1447 01:09:38,878 --> 01:09:41,915 A voice sitting in a secret vault 1448 01:09:41,948 --> 01:09:45,051 that would shock even Rebecca. 1449 01:09:48,421 --> 01:09:53,393 - An audio recording reveals the darkest discovery of all. 1450 01:09:53,426 --> 01:09:54,894 - It will just rock you. 1451 01:09:54,928 --> 01:09:56,496 It's so horrible. 1452 01:09:56,529 --> 01:10:00,066 - When "Dateline: Secrets Uncovered" continues. 1453 01:10:10,510 --> 01:10:11,911 - April 2008, 1454 01:10:11,945 --> 01:10:14,180 the nation's eyes were glued on what was happening 1455 01:10:14,214 --> 01:10:16,282 in the desert of West Texas. 1456 01:10:16,316 --> 01:10:19,586 The Yearning for Zion Ranch was crawling with Texas Rangers, 1457 01:10:19,619 --> 01:10:21,821 looking for not only a teenage girl 1458 01:10:21,855 --> 01:10:23,490 who might be in danger, 1459 01:10:23,523 --> 01:10:26,359 but also evidence of other underage brides. 1460 01:10:26,393 --> 01:10:29,596 And there was one more place to look. 1461 01:10:29,629 --> 01:10:31,231 - There was a sister building to the temple, 1462 01:10:31,264 --> 01:10:34,200 and it was referred to as the Temple Annex. 1463 01:10:34,234 --> 01:10:36,202 Inside, there was a vault. 1464 01:10:36,236 --> 01:10:40,073 - This time, a battering ram wasn't enough. 1465 01:10:40,106 --> 01:10:42,342 - So we jackhammered through the wall, 1466 01:10:42,375 --> 01:10:45,945 to open the vault from the inside. 1467 01:10:45,979 --> 01:10:48,014 - Rebecca and the Rangers entered. 1468 01:10:48,048 --> 01:10:51,551 And immediately, they knew they had hit the mother lode. 1469 01:10:51,584 --> 01:10:57,290 - They had just tons-- I mean, 400 boxes of physical papers 1470 01:10:57,323 --> 01:10:59,626 plus all of the digital information. 1471 01:10:59,659 --> 01:11:01,828 And it was all of these records. 1472 01:11:01,861 --> 01:11:04,798 - We found church records, family records, 1473 01:11:04,831 --> 01:11:06,633 and probably the most important thing 1474 01:11:06,666 --> 01:11:09,202 was the priesthood records, 1475 01:11:09,235 --> 01:11:11,604 which were the dictations of Warren Jeffs. 1476 01:11:11,638 --> 01:11:14,507 His locations, his movements, his directions-- 1477 01:11:14,541 --> 01:11:17,077 really, it was a road map to all the activities 1478 01:11:17,110 --> 01:11:21,214 of the FLDS community. 1479 01:11:21,247 --> 01:11:22,782 - Every dictation, every record, 1480 01:11:22,816 --> 01:11:26,886 every file had to be scrutinized page by page. 1481 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,389 - Walking into there and going, oh, my goodness, 1482 01:11:29,422 --> 01:11:31,424 look at all this. 1483 01:11:31,458 --> 01:11:32,992 - Wes Hensley is an investigator 1484 01:11:33,093 --> 01:11:35,161 in the Texas Attorney General's office. 1485 01:11:35,195 --> 01:11:38,264 And box by box through literally millions of pages, 1486 01:11:38,298 --> 01:11:40,000 Hensley, and Hannah, and others 1487 01:11:40,100 --> 01:11:43,670 searched with the help of Rebecca. 1488 01:11:43,703 --> 01:11:45,105 - She was very important 1489 01:11:45,105 --> 01:11:47,273 about authenticating the documents for us. 1490 01:11:47,307 --> 01:11:49,442 She was able to give me their family background-- 1491 01:11:49,476 --> 01:11:52,212 all the lineage. 1492 01:11:52,245 --> 01:11:53,913 - Rebecca knew it all 1493 01:11:53,947 --> 01:11:57,617 because she personally helped compile it. 1494 01:11:57,650 --> 01:11:59,185 - I was there. And I saw. 1495 01:11:59,219 --> 01:12:00,320 I heard. - Yeah. 1496 01:12:00,353 --> 01:12:02,622 - And I was involved with helping to gather this. 1497 01:12:02,655 --> 01:12:05,058 - Marriages, babies, bloodlines-- 1498 01:12:05,058 --> 01:12:09,295 the whole intricate web. 1499 01:12:09,329 --> 01:12:12,065 But there was one thing Rebecca didn't know about, 1500 01:12:12,065 --> 01:12:14,768 Sarah Barlow, the mysterious young woman 1501 01:12:14,801 --> 01:12:17,170 whose call prompted the whole raid. 1502 01:12:17,203 --> 01:12:20,807 That's because there was no Sarah Barlow. 1503 01:12:22,676 --> 01:12:26,179 Two weeks after the raid, came a stunning surprise. 1504 01:12:26,212 --> 01:12:29,849 The calls that triggered the raid were a fraud, a fake. 1505 01:12:29,883 --> 01:12:32,686 The woman who made them from far away in Colorado, 1506 01:12:32,719 --> 01:12:35,355 had nothing to do with the FLDS. 1507 01:12:35,388 --> 01:12:36,456 Her attorney said she suffered 1508 01:12:36,489 --> 01:12:38,792 from multiple personality disorder. 1509 01:12:38,825 --> 01:12:40,994 After pleading guilty to a misdemeanor charge 1510 01:12:41,094 --> 01:12:42,228 of filing a false report, 1511 01:12:42,262 --> 01:12:45,732 her case was eventually dismissed. 1512 01:12:45,765 --> 01:12:47,200 But Rod Parker, one of the attorneys 1513 01:12:47,233 --> 01:12:50,937 who represented the FLDS was furious about the actions 1514 01:12:50,970 --> 01:12:53,306 of the Texas Rangers. 1515 01:12:53,340 --> 01:12:55,241 - What they did is they described 1516 01:12:55,275 --> 01:12:58,645 a person who didn't exist and used it to justify 1517 01:12:58,678 --> 01:13:01,047 a complete search of the ranch. 1518 01:13:03,383 --> 01:13:05,585 - Families separated, children shipped away-- 1519 01:13:05,618 --> 01:13:08,054 some not returned for almost two months. 1520 01:13:08,088 --> 01:13:10,490 A sacred temple defiled. 1521 01:13:10,523 --> 01:13:11,558 But neither the Rangers, 1522 01:13:11,591 --> 01:13:14,094 nor Rebecca had second thoughts about that. 1523 01:13:14,127 --> 01:13:16,763 Sarah Barlow may have been a fake, they said, 1524 01:13:16,796 --> 01:13:18,732 but what Warren Jeffs was doing here 1525 01:13:18,765 --> 01:13:21,468 with underage girls appeared to be very real 1526 01:13:21,501 --> 01:13:26,339 as seen in these pictures seized during the raid. 1527 01:13:26,373 --> 01:13:30,243 Do you carry around with you any sort of sadness, guilt? 1528 01:13:30,276 --> 01:13:32,078 Something about how much you had to do 1529 01:13:32,078 --> 01:13:35,582 to get that evidence against Warren Jeffs? 1530 01:13:35,615 --> 01:13:36,783 - No. - No regrets? 1531 01:13:36,816 --> 01:13:39,085 - No regrets. - No. 1532 01:13:39,119 --> 01:13:40,587 We didn't create those circumstances. 1533 01:13:40,620 --> 01:13:42,322 Warren Jeffs did. - He did. 1534 01:13:42,355 --> 01:13:44,624 - But he obviously, didn't see it as a crime. 1535 01:13:44,657 --> 01:13:48,094 He saw it as him doing his priestly duty. 1536 01:13:48,094 --> 01:13:50,864 - He understood that the outside world viewed it 1537 01:13:50,897 --> 01:13:53,333 as a crime, that society did. 1538 01:13:53,366 --> 01:13:54,801 Because even in the priesthood records, 1539 01:13:54,834 --> 01:13:57,103 there was a quote or comment that he made 1540 01:13:57,103 --> 01:13:58,672 that if the outside world knew what I was doing, 1541 01:13:58,705 --> 01:14:01,274 they would hang me from the highest tree. 1542 01:14:02,942 --> 01:14:05,045 - For the next several months, Hannah and Hensley 1543 01:14:05,045 --> 01:14:08,048 painstakingly picked through oceans of paperwork, 1544 01:14:08,048 --> 01:14:10,717 looking for anything to link Warren Jeffs 1545 01:14:10,750 --> 01:14:14,254 and other FLDS members to specific crimes. 1546 01:14:15,689 --> 01:14:17,791 But there was a clue that had been discovered 1547 01:14:17,824 --> 01:14:20,060 a few years earlier. 1548 01:14:20,093 --> 01:14:23,329 Remember when the prophet was arrested in 2006? 1549 01:14:23,363 --> 01:14:25,632 One of the things found and that Escalade 1550 01:14:25,665 --> 01:14:28,902 was a rather disturbing audio recording. 1551 01:14:36,276 --> 01:14:37,177 - This was Warren Jeffs 1552 01:14:37,210 --> 01:14:39,913 performing one of his sacred ordinances 1553 01:14:39,946 --> 01:14:42,716 with what sounded like a young girl. 1554 01:14:42,749 --> 01:14:45,318 Because he said her name on the tape, 1555 01:14:45,352 --> 01:14:47,320 it was a simple matter of matching her 1556 01:14:47,354 --> 01:14:50,357 to church records seized in the Texas raid. 1557 01:14:50,390 --> 01:14:53,960 It turned out she was just 12 years old. 1558 01:14:53,993 --> 01:14:56,963 The tone quiet, almost soothing, 1559 01:14:56,996 --> 01:15:00,367 belies the horror of what's really happening. 1560 01:15:05,372 --> 01:15:08,208 - This is a horrible thing to listen to. 1561 01:15:08,241 --> 01:15:11,644 It-it will just rock you. 1562 01:15:11,678 --> 01:15:13,546 It's so horrible. 1563 01:15:13,580 --> 01:15:16,449 - Eventually, the master copy of the recording was found, 1564 01:15:16,483 --> 01:15:20,286 buried in evidence discovered at the YFZ Ranch. 1565 01:15:29,095 --> 01:15:32,232 - It was exactly what Rebecca feared, 1566 01:15:32,265 --> 01:15:35,468 when she saw those beds in the temple. 1567 01:15:35,502 --> 01:15:38,672 - Not only had Warren been the perpetrator 1568 01:15:38,705 --> 01:15:40,707 and the predator on these young girls. 1569 01:15:40,740 --> 01:15:44,577 But he had in a very twisted sense, 1570 01:15:44,611 --> 01:15:49,849 taken the thought, the idea, 1571 01:15:49,883 --> 01:15:51,985 and called it holy. 1572 01:15:52,085 --> 01:15:54,454 - Warren Jeffs and nine other members of the FLDS 1573 01:15:54,487 --> 01:15:57,724 were indicted on a variety of sexual assault charges, 1574 01:15:57,757 --> 01:15:59,826 involving underage girls. 1575 01:15:59,859 --> 01:16:02,529 The prophet who had once been accountable to no one, 1576 01:16:02,562 --> 01:16:05,331 would again, have to answer in court-- this time, 1577 01:16:05,365 --> 01:16:07,867 facing life in prison. 1578 01:16:07,901 --> 01:16:11,871 And once again, the woman he once warned would be destroyed 1579 01:16:11,905 --> 01:16:15,909 in the flesh, would be the star witness against him. 1580 01:16:15,942 --> 01:16:17,811 And if the stakes weren't high enough, 1581 01:16:17,844 --> 01:16:19,412 they were about to go up. 1582 01:16:19,446 --> 01:16:23,350 In 2010, just before his Texas trial was to start, 1583 01:16:23,383 --> 01:16:26,753 back in Utah, the State Supreme Court overturned 1584 01:16:26,786 --> 01:16:30,490 his earlier conviction in the Elissa Wall case. 1585 01:16:30,523 --> 01:16:33,059 The justices cited improper jury instructions 1586 01:16:33,093 --> 01:16:35,929 by the trial judge-- ordered a new trial. 1587 01:16:35,962 --> 01:16:39,165 While prosecutors were deciding whether to retry the prophet, 1588 01:16:39,199 --> 01:16:43,436 he was extradited to Texas, where something dramatic 1589 01:16:43,470 --> 01:16:47,207 was about to happen on day one of the Warren Jeffs' trial. 1590 01:16:50,143 --> 01:16:51,945 - Rebecca takes the stand, 1591 01:16:51,978 --> 01:16:56,082 while Warren Jeffs makes a move that stuns the courtroom. 1592 01:16:56,082 --> 01:16:57,684 - It was just surreal. 1593 01:16:57,717 --> 01:17:00,587 - When "Dateline: Secrets Uncovered" continues. 1594 01:17:10,397 --> 01:17:13,033 * - San Angelo, Texas, cattle country 1595 01:17:13,033 --> 01:17:15,201 on the banks of the Concho River. 1596 01:17:15,235 --> 01:17:18,438 In the center of town, a stately old courthouse. 1597 01:17:18,471 --> 01:17:22,509 The stage for the 2011 trial of Prophet Warren Jeffs, 1598 01:17:22,542 --> 01:17:26,446 now facing charges for sexually assaulting two underage girls 1599 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,315 alleged to be his spiritual wives. 1600 01:17:29,349 --> 01:17:33,486 - Mr. Jeffs, did you rape those two girls? 1601 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,088 - This time, if convicted, 1602 01:17:35,121 --> 01:17:38,091 the prophet could face life in prison. 1603 01:17:38,124 --> 01:17:41,061 - We prepared ourselves diligently, 1604 01:17:41,094 --> 01:17:45,699 anticipating different arguments from the defense team. 1605 01:17:45,732 --> 01:17:49,869 - But there was no defense team per se 1606 01:17:49,903 --> 01:17:50,837 because right before the trial, 1607 01:17:50,870 --> 01:17:53,273 Warren Jeffs fired all his attorneys-- 1608 01:17:53,306 --> 01:17:54,641 announced he'd represent himself. 1609 01:17:54,674 --> 01:17:57,177 In his opening argument, the prophet delivered 1610 01:17:57,210 --> 01:18:01,247 a 30-minute speech on religious persecution. 1611 01:18:01,281 --> 01:18:03,850 And then the prosecution presented its case-- 1612 01:18:03,883 --> 01:18:06,619 all that evidence seized in the Texas raid. 1613 01:18:06,653 --> 01:18:09,656 And Rebecca Musser, again, dressed in red, 1614 01:18:09,689 --> 01:18:12,592 tried to make sense of it all for the jury. 1615 01:18:12,625 --> 01:18:15,595 The girls Warren Jeffs allegedly raped took the Fifth 1616 01:18:15,628 --> 01:18:18,832 instead of testifying against their husband and prophet. 1617 01:18:18,865 --> 01:18:22,135 - There were no victims sitting on that stand to say, 1618 01:18:22,168 --> 01:18:23,870 "This man did this to me." 1619 01:18:23,903 --> 01:18:28,842 And it was my testimony to authenticate the records, 1620 01:18:28,875 --> 01:18:34,080 to explain to the jury why these young girls were victims-- 1621 01:18:34,114 --> 01:18:37,283 being forced to marry, being forced to have sex, 1622 01:18:37,317 --> 01:18:40,587 that that was normal. 1623 01:18:40,620 --> 01:18:42,689 - And then the prosecution played the audio 1624 01:18:42,722 --> 01:18:45,258 of Warren Jeffs and the 12-year-old girl 1625 01:18:45,291 --> 01:18:49,062 recovered at the YFZ Ranch-- all 21 minutes of it. 1626 01:18:56,069 --> 01:18:58,905 - I looked over, and I saw the emotional reactions 1627 01:18:58,938 --> 01:19:00,373 of the jurors. 1628 01:19:00,407 --> 01:19:03,777 And tears were streaming down someone's face. 1629 01:19:03,810 --> 01:19:06,413 - Finally, it was time for the prophet to deliver 1630 01:19:06,446 --> 01:19:08,214 his closing argument. 1631 01:19:08,248 --> 01:19:11,317 His last chance to make a compelling case for himself 1632 01:19:11,351 --> 01:19:13,386 and his holy ordinances. 1633 01:19:13,420 --> 01:19:17,257 He stood and faced the jury, but-- 1634 01:19:17,290 --> 01:19:19,759 - He didn't utter a word for at least 38 minutes 1635 01:19:19,793 --> 01:19:22,362 and 50 seconds. 1636 01:19:22,395 --> 01:19:27,233 And at the conclusion of that period of time, he said, 1637 01:19:27,267 --> 01:19:28,568 um... - I'm at peace. 1638 01:19:28,601 --> 01:19:30,036 - I'm at peace. 1639 01:19:30,036 --> 01:19:32,472 And I mean, I guess that was his argument. 1640 01:19:32,505 --> 01:19:35,875 But it was just surreal. 1641 01:19:35,909 --> 01:19:37,744 - It took the Texas jury barely half an hour 1642 01:19:37,777 --> 01:19:42,716 to reach a verdict-- guilty on all counts. 1643 01:19:42,749 --> 01:19:47,053 - It was like we had a great 1,000 pound weight 1644 01:19:47,053 --> 01:19:49,055 taken off your shoulders. 1645 01:19:49,055 --> 01:19:51,558 Our investigation was also on trial. 1646 01:19:51,591 --> 01:19:54,594 That going on to the ranch, the search warrant was on trial. 1647 01:19:56,062 --> 01:19:58,665 - I bless the State of Texas that somebody 1648 01:19:58,698 --> 01:20:00,233 finally stood up to this man. 1649 01:20:00,266 --> 01:20:03,937 And he's sitting in prison now for the rest of his life. 1650 01:20:05,105 --> 01:20:07,407 - Three months after Jeffs was handed that life sentence, 1651 01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:10,243 prosecutors in Utah decided they would not retry him 1652 01:20:10,276 --> 01:20:13,613 in the Elissa Wall case and dropped all charges. 1653 01:20:13,646 --> 01:20:17,183 A decision made with Elissa's consent. 1654 01:20:17,217 --> 01:20:20,120 Much has happened since we first brought you this story, 1655 01:20:20,153 --> 01:20:22,722 though official records are spotty at best. 1656 01:20:22,756 --> 01:20:26,226 Private investigator and FLDS expert Sam Brower 1657 01:20:26,259 --> 01:20:28,428 believes that most of the children taken from 1658 01:20:28,461 --> 01:20:33,099 the YFZ Ranch were eventually returned to the FLDS community, 1659 01:20:33,133 --> 01:20:36,102 including the 12-year-old from the audiotape. 1660 01:20:36,136 --> 01:20:37,837 The last time we spoke to Rebecca, 1661 01:20:37,871 --> 01:20:40,407 she told us the girl, now a young woman, 1662 01:20:40,440 --> 01:20:43,576 still considers herself a wife of the prophet, 1663 01:20:43,610 --> 01:20:46,012 and is thought to be living in an FLDS compound 1664 01:20:46,046 --> 01:20:47,881 somewhere in the US. 1665 01:20:47,914 --> 01:20:51,618 The State of Texas seized the YFZ Ranch and sold it. 1666 01:20:51,651 --> 01:20:54,688 This former religious commune was transformed into 1667 01:20:54,721 --> 01:20:57,590 a military and law enforcement training base, 1668 01:20:57,624 --> 01:20:59,492 of all things. 1669 01:20:59,526 --> 01:21:01,061 A few years later-- 1670 01:21:01,061 --> 01:21:03,329 - We received a tip from the public, 1671 01:21:03,363 --> 01:21:05,231 of someone matching his description. 1672 01:21:05,265 --> 01:21:07,767 That information was absolutely instrumental. 1673 01:21:07,801 --> 01:21:09,636 - Warren's brother and second in command, 1674 01:21:09,669 --> 01:21:11,971 Lyle Jeffs was arrested 1675 01:21:12,072 --> 01:21:14,074 after slipping out of his ankle monitor, 1676 01:21:14,074 --> 01:21:16,743 while awaiting for trial on food stamp fraud. 1677 01:21:16,776 --> 01:21:20,347 He was convicted, sentenced to just under five years. 1678 01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:25,352 And Short Creek, 1679 01:21:25,385 --> 01:21:28,955 the Creek, once FLDS ground zero-- 1680 01:21:28,988 --> 01:21:31,925 back in 2013, as we finished taping 1681 01:21:31,958 --> 01:21:35,295 and were preparing to leave, suddenly we were surrounded 1682 01:21:35,328 --> 01:21:38,565 by a whirling posse of teens on horseback, 1683 01:21:38,598 --> 01:21:43,436 responding to our greetings with blank stares. 1684 01:21:43,470 --> 01:21:45,872 - You want to call the sheriff now? 1685 01:21:45,905 --> 01:21:48,742 - These are children who'd been taken from their parents, 1686 01:21:48,775 --> 01:21:51,678 said Rebecca's old school friend, Andrew Chatwin. 1687 01:21:51,711 --> 01:21:54,014 They were just following church orders 1688 01:21:54,114 --> 01:21:56,383 to harass the media. 1689 01:21:56,416 --> 01:21:59,119 But that was then. 1690 01:21:59,119 --> 01:22:03,590 Now, said Andrew, the Creek is ground zero no more. 1691 01:22:04,424 --> 01:22:06,559 - The majority of the FLDS, 1692 01:22:06,593 --> 01:22:10,063 about 90% are not in Short Creek anymore. 1693 01:22:10,096 --> 01:22:12,766 - A series of court rulings wrested control 1694 01:22:12,799 --> 01:22:16,136 of the town away from the church and Warren Jeffs. 1695 01:22:16,169 --> 01:22:19,639 And the devout just left. 1696 01:22:19,673 --> 01:22:23,243 - They've been told not to cooperate with the courts. 1697 01:22:23,276 --> 01:22:25,912 And they would rather walk away from their homes 1698 01:22:25,945 --> 01:22:27,681 than to cooperate. 1699 01:22:27,714 --> 01:22:29,416 - So much change. 1700 01:22:29,449 --> 01:22:33,453 In 2017, Hildale elected the first non-FLDS mayor 1701 01:22:33,486 --> 01:22:35,622 in the town's 100-year history, 1702 01:22:35,655 --> 01:22:37,524 a woman. - How are you? 1703 01:22:37,557 --> 01:22:41,795 - Donna Jessup, she was an ex-FLDS member. 1704 01:22:41,828 --> 01:22:43,296 And she understands a lot 1705 01:22:43,329 --> 01:22:48,168 of how people think in this community. 1706 01:22:48,201 --> 01:22:50,103 - They welcome visitors now. 1707 01:22:50,103 --> 01:22:52,105 There's even a bar. 1708 01:22:52,105 --> 01:22:53,139 - What I've been telling people, 1709 01:22:53,173 --> 01:22:56,276 we're living in the aftermath of the Jeffs. 1710 01:22:56,309 --> 01:22:59,746 And now, we're here cleaning up and rebuilding. 1711 01:22:59,779 --> 01:23:02,582 - But the end of the story? 1712 01:23:02,615 --> 01:23:04,918 No, not at all. 1713 01:23:04,951 --> 01:23:07,354 Because though his flock has scattered, 1714 01:23:07,387 --> 01:23:10,857 Warren Jeffs, even in prison, is still the prophet, 1715 01:23:10,890 --> 01:23:13,226 issuing edicts to his faithful followers 1716 01:23:13,259 --> 01:23:16,296 now in neighboring Utah and beyond. 1717 01:23:16,329 --> 01:23:17,964 Sam Brower. 1718 01:23:18,064 --> 01:23:20,100 - They will do anything he says. 1719 01:23:20,133 --> 01:23:21,334 - They'll leave their families. 1720 01:23:21,368 --> 01:23:22,635 - They will leave their families. 1721 01:23:22,669 --> 01:23:24,738 They'll leave their children. 1722 01:23:24,771 --> 01:23:27,607 They'll turn daughters over to old lechers. 1723 01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,744 They'll do literally anything that they're called upon to do. 1724 01:23:30,777 --> 01:23:34,547 They see it as their path to salvation. 1725 01:23:34,581 --> 01:23:37,350 - And Rebecca Musser, to the FLDS faithful, 1726 01:23:37,384 --> 01:23:41,755 Rebecca is an apostate-- enemy of the work. 1727 01:23:42,989 --> 01:23:45,158 Does it hurt you knowing that many of them feel 1728 01:23:45,191 --> 01:23:47,894 quite negatively towards you now? 1729 01:23:47,927 --> 01:23:52,132 - I'm sad that some of them do. 1730 01:23:52,165 --> 01:23:53,833 But I could no longer stay. 1731 01:23:53,867 --> 01:23:57,137 It's not a glamorous part of getting freedom. 1732 01:23:57,170 --> 01:23:59,305 There's a cost to that. 1733 01:23:59,339 --> 01:24:01,074 - When we last spoke, Rebecca was working 1734 01:24:01,107 --> 01:24:03,243 in real estate and had two children. 1735 01:24:03,276 --> 01:24:06,112 But she was estranged from her own parents. 1736 01:24:06,146 --> 01:24:08,715 Her mother, she said, still wouldn't speak to her. 1737 01:24:08,748 --> 01:24:12,318 Her father too believed the teachings of the FLDS, 1738 01:24:12,352 --> 01:24:16,189 though he no longer believed Warren Jeffs was the prophet. 1739 01:24:16,222 --> 01:24:19,559 The woman once known as Sister Becky wrote a book 1740 01:24:19,592 --> 01:24:21,094 about her experiences. 1741 01:24:21,127 --> 01:24:24,330 She called it "The Witness Wore Red," 1742 01:24:24,364 --> 01:24:27,901 and has helped counsel former FLDS members. 1743 01:24:27,934 --> 01:24:31,204 - The power of words means, breaking your silence. 1744 01:24:31,237 --> 01:24:35,375 To be silent is to be enslaved. 1745 01:24:35,408 --> 01:24:37,811 And there's this amazing thing called choice. 1746 01:24:37,844 --> 01:24:40,547 And that is freedom. 1747 01:24:40,580 --> 01:24:43,483 ** 1748 01:24:43,516 --> 01:24:46,252 - And sometimes when she's playing her violin, 1749 01:24:46,286 --> 01:24:48,321 one of those classic hymns she learned 1750 01:24:48,355 --> 01:24:50,156 when practicing the work, 1751 01:24:50,190 --> 01:24:52,625 she thinks about her days in the FLDS, 1752 01:24:52,659 --> 01:24:54,761 thinks about that moment when Warren Jeffs 1753 01:24:54,794 --> 01:24:56,796 demanded her obedience. 1754 01:24:56,830 --> 01:25:00,166 The moment he threatened he would break her. 1755 01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,035 He didn't break you. 1756 01:25:02,035 --> 01:25:03,203 You broke him? 1757 01:25:03,236 --> 01:25:04,738 - I didn't set out to break him. 1758 01:25:04,771 --> 01:25:07,140 I think he broke himself. 1759 01:25:07,173 --> 01:25:11,177 But he most certainly did not break me. 1760 01:25:11,211 --> 01:25:22,489 ** 1761 01:25:22,522 --> 01:25:23,423 - That's all for this edition 1762 01:25:23,456 --> 01:25:25,592 of "Dateline: Secrets Uncovered." 1763 01:25:25,625 --> 01:25:27,060 I'm Kate Snow. 1764 01:25:27,060 --> 01:25:28,762 Thank you for watching.