1 00:00:12,178 --> 00:00:12,612 - I'm Craig Melvin 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,383 and this is "Dateline: 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,383 Secrets Uncovered." 4 00:00:16,383 --> 00:00:18,585 - I just got home, 5 00:00:18,585 --> 00:00:19,686 and my husband 6 00:00:18,585 --> 00:00:19,686 and daughter-- 7 00:00:19,686 --> 00:00:22,455 my husband's dead 8 00:00:19,686 --> 00:00:22,455 on the floor! 9 00:00:22,455 --> 00:00:25,759 - A husband and father 10 00:00:22,455 --> 00:00:25,759 suddenly gone. 11 00:00:25,759 --> 00:00:26,760 - Did he hit his head? 12 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:27,861 Did he have 13 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:27,861 a heart attack? 14 00:00:27,861 --> 00:00:29,729 - I said, something's wrong. 15 00:00:27,861 --> 00:00:29,729 Something's wrong. 16 00:00:29,729 --> 00:00:30,663 - There was 17 00:00:29,729 --> 00:00:30,663 a lot of blood. 18 00:00:30,663 --> 00:00:32,665 - Then, they found 19 00:00:30,663 --> 00:00:32,665 the bullets. 20 00:00:32,665 --> 00:00:35,435 He'd been shot 21 00:00:32,665 --> 00:00:35,435 with two different guns. 22 00:00:35,435 --> 00:00:36,269 - Two guns. 23 00:00:36,269 --> 00:00:37,637 Does that mean 24 00:00:36,269 --> 00:00:37,637 two shooters? 25 00:00:37,637 --> 00:00:38,805 - One could argue that. 26 00:00:38,805 --> 00:00:42,800 - Detectives would unravel 27 00:00:38,805 --> 00:00:42,800 a staggering plan of 28 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,577 stone-cold evil. 29 00:00:44,577 --> 00:00:45,879 - This plot to kill him 30 00:00:45,879 --> 00:00:47,847 had been going back months. 31 00:00:45,879 --> 00:00:47,847 - Months. 32 00:00:47,847 --> 00:00:49,649 There was 33 00:00:47,847 --> 00:00:49,649 a seething hatred. 34 00:00:49,649 --> 00:00:50,750 - It was a game. 35 00:00:50,750 --> 00:00:52,752 Everybody else was basically 36 00:00:50,750 --> 00:00:52,752 collateral damage. 37 00:00:52,752 --> 00:00:56,220 - It just destroyed 38 00:00:52,752 --> 00:00:56,220 my heart. 39 00:00:56,220 --> 00:00:58,910 I'm angry now. 40 00:00:58,910 --> 00:01:00,493 And I was never 41 00:00:58,910 --> 00:01:00,493 a very angry person. 42 00:01:08,801 --> 00:01:12,539 - Hello. And welcome to 43 00:01:08,801 --> 00:01:12,539 "Dateline: Secrets Uncovered." 44 00:01:12,539 --> 00:01:14,307 In the eyes 45 00:01:12,539 --> 00:01:14,307 of his daughter, 46 00:01:14,307 --> 00:01:17,377 Randy Baker 47 00:01:14,307 --> 00:01:17,377 could do no wrong. 48 00:01:17,377 --> 00:01:19,312 He was her rock 49 00:01:19,312 --> 00:01:21,715 and a mentor 50 00:01:19,312 --> 00:01:21,715 for countless others 51 00:01:21,715 --> 00:01:23,383 as an addiction 52 00:01:21,715 --> 00:01:23,383 counselor. 53 00:01:23,383 --> 00:01:26,252 Then, Randy 54 00:01:23,383 --> 00:01:26,252 was found dead. 55 00:01:26,252 --> 00:01:28,555 Hunting for clues, 56 00:01:26,252 --> 00:01:28,555 investigators would uncover 57 00:01:28,555 --> 00:01:31,358 a twisted trail 58 00:01:28,555 --> 00:01:31,358 of family secrets 59 00:01:31,358 --> 00:01:36,963 and a stunning conspiracy 60 00:01:31,358 --> 00:01:36,963 fueled by rage. 61 00:01:36,963 --> 00:01:38,264 Here's Keith Morrison 62 00:01:38,264 --> 00:01:40,500 with "The Secret Keepers." 63 00:01:44,170 --> 00:01:46,106 - It was a warm 64 00:01:44,170 --> 00:01:46,106 Colorado morning 65 00:01:46,106 --> 00:01:48,675 on the ripe side 66 00:01:46,106 --> 00:01:48,675 of summer. 67 00:01:48,675 --> 00:01:50,676 The road beneath 68 00:01:48,675 --> 00:01:50,676 his wheels. 69 00:01:50,676 --> 00:01:52,878 The vast blue 70 00:01:50,676 --> 00:01:52,878 canopy above. 71 00:01:52,878 --> 00:01:55,582 Renewed possibilities 72 00:01:52,878 --> 00:01:55,582 in his heart. 73 00:01:55,582 --> 00:01:58,685 Randy Baker, 74 00:01:55,582 --> 00:01:58,685 recovering heart patient, 75 00:01:58,685 --> 00:02:01,554 cruised through the sun 76 00:01:58,685 --> 00:02:01,554 to the job he loved. 77 00:02:01,554 --> 00:02:02,856 Better now. 78 00:02:02,856 --> 00:02:05,910 Back to sweet routine. 79 00:02:05,910 --> 00:02:08,762 So, why this 80 00:02:05,910 --> 00:02:08,762 morning fatigue? 81 00:02:08,762 --> 00:02:11,898 Randy felt the warm day 82 00:02:08,762 --> 00:02:11,898 wrap his big body 83 00:02:11,898 --> 00:02:13,333 like a sleeping pill. 84 00:02:13,333 --> 00:02:16,770 He struggled to lift 85 00:02:13,333 --> 00:02:16,770 his leaden eyelids. 86 00:02:16,770 --> 00:02:20,140 So tired. 87 00:02:16,770 --> 00:02:20,140 So tired. 88 00:02:25,812 --> 00:02:26,980 - What was told to me 89 00:02:26,980 --> 00:02:29,249 was that he probably 90 00:02:26,980 --> 00:02:29,249 fell asleep and swerved. 91 00:02:29,249 --> 00:02:31,384 - It could have been 92 00:02:29,249 --> 00:02:31,384 catastrophic. 93 00:02:31,384 --> 00:02:32,852 It wasn't. 94 00:02:32,852 --> 00:02:34,654 His Pontiac took a ding, 95 00:02:34,654 --> 00:02:37,757 but the cops who responded 96 00:02:34,654 --> 00:02:37,757 said he seemed okay. 97 00:02:37,757 --> 00:02:40,493 - These officers had made sure 98 00:02:37,757 --> 00:02:40,493 he was all right, um, 99 00:02:40,493 --> 00:02:43,463 and essentially let him off 100 00:02:40,493 --> 00:02:43,463 with a warning. 101 00:02:45,980 --> 00:02:46,533 - Perhaps those cops 102 00:02:45,980 --> 00:02:46,533 didn't know 103 00:02:46,533 --> 00:02:49,869 it was the fifth time 104 00:02:46,533 --> 00:02:49,869 he'd dozed off at the wheel. 105 00:02:49,869 --> 00:02:52,839 His fifth brush with death 106 00:02:49,869 --> 00:02:52,839 in a month. 107 00:02:52,839 --> 00:02:55,675 Lucky, for a moment, 108 00:02:55,675 --> 00:02:58,912 here on the last day 109 00:02:55,675 --> 00:02:58,912 of his life. 110 00:03:02,949 --> 00:03:04,384 Next morning. 111 00:03:02,949 --> 00:03:04,384 Wednesday, 112 00:03:04,384 --> 00:03:07,654 August 16, 2017. 113 00:03:04,384 --> 00:03:07,654 8:30 A.M. 114 00:03:20,567 --> 00:03:21,835 Officer Doug Medhurst 115 00:03:21,835 --> 00:03:24,170 of the Greeley, Colorado, 116 00:03:21,835 --> 00:03:24,170 Police got the call. 117 00:03:24,170 --> 00:03:25,839 Found the big, 118 00:03:24,170 --> 00:03:25,839 quiet house 119 00:03:25,839 --> 00:03:28,141 at the end of a fine, 120 00:03:25,839 --> 00:03:28,141 leafy cul-de-sac 121 00:03:28,141 --> 00:03:31,544 where a shaken 122 00:03:28,141 --> 00:03:31,544 Kelly Baker was waiting. 123 00:03:31,544 --> 00:03:33,179 - When I got here, 124 00:03:31,544 --> 00:03:33,179 Kelly Baker was sitting 125 00:03:33,179 --> 00:03:34,814 on the steps over there. 126 00:03:33,179 --> 00:03:34,814 - Just right there? 127 00:03:34,814 --> 00:03:36,683 - I asked her what had happened, 128 00:03:34,814 --> 00:03:36,683 and she told me 129 00:03:36,683 --> 00:03:39,552 her husband Randy Baker 130 00:03:36,683 --> 00:03:39,552 was dead in the house. 131 00:03:39,552 --> 00:03:41,488 - She'd been away 132 00:03:39,552 --> 00:03:41,488 overnight. 133 00:03:41,488 --> 00:03:43,790 Then, in the morning 134 00:03:41,488 --> 00:03:43,790 she opened the garage door, 135 00:03:43,790 --> 00:03:45,759 and there he was. 136 00:03:47,861 --> 00:03:50,597 - So, Randy Baker 137 00:03:47,861 --> 00:03:50,597 was layin' right here. 138 00:03:50,597 --> 00:03:53,500 His torso was layin' 139 00:03:50,597 --> 00:03:53,500 in the hallway, 140 00:03:53,500 --> 00:03:56,670 and his head was inside 141 00:03:53,500 --> 00:03:56,670 the doorframe here. 142 00:03:56,670 --> 00:03:58,103 It was right in front 143 00:03:56,670 --> 00:03:58,103 of that sink. 144 00:03:58,103 --> 00:03:58,838 - With a pool of blood 145 00:03:58,103 --> 00:03:58,838 down there. 146 00:03:58,838 --> 00:03:59,906 - And a pool of blood. 147 00:03:59,906 --> 00:04:01,141 He was layin' 148 00:03:59,906 --> 00:04:01,141 on his right side. 149 00:04:01,141 --> 00:04:02,542 Obviously dead. 150 00:04:02,542 --> 00:04:04,277 He had a bag of fast food 151 00:04:02,542 --> 00:04:04,277 with 'em 152 00:04:04,277 --> 00:04:06,479 and a drink cup from 153 00:04:04,277 --> 00:04:06,479 a local fast-food restaurant. 154 00:04:06,479 --> 00:04:07,714 - As if he'd just picked up 155 00:04:06,479 --> 00:04:07,714 his dinner. 156 00:04:07,714 --> 00:04:09,883 - It's what it 157 00:04:07,714 --> 00:04:09,883 looked like to me. 158 00:04:09,883 --> 00:04:12,952 He was layin' on the floor 159 00:04:09,883 --> 00:04:12,952 with that spilled next to him 160 00:04:12,952 --> 00:04:14,688 and his cell phone 161 00:04:12,952 --> 00:04:14,688 layin' there. 162 00:04:14,688 --> 00:04:16,456 - Kelly, the victim's wife, 163 00:04:16,456 --> 00:04:19,589 gave Officer Medhurst 164 00:04:16,456 --> 00:04:19,589 a little background. 165 00:04:19,589 --> 00:04:20,894 Randy had a bad heart. 166 00:04:20,894 --> 00:04:22,395 His health was failing. 167 00:04:22,395 --> 00:04:25,650 And he'd been falling asleep 168 00:04:22,395 --> 00:04:25,650 at the wheel. 169 00:04:25,650 --> 00:04:26,566 - I continued 170 00:04:25,650 --> 00:04:26,566 to talk to Kelly 171 00:04:26,566 --> 00:04:30,937 and Randy's sister, Carol Baker, 172 00:04:26,566 --> 00:04:30,937 had arrived. 173 00:04:30,937 --> 00:04:33,440 - As the women huddled 174 00:04:30,937 --> 00:04:33,440 with Officer Medhurst 175 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,508 trying to make sense 176 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,508 of this awful thing, 177 00:04:35,508 --> 00:04:38,780 the coroner's 178 00:04:35,508 --> 00:04:38,780 investigator arrived. 179 00:04:38,780 --> 00:04:39,713 - I told him 180 00:04:38,780 --> 00:04:39,713 of the health issues, 181 00:04:39,713 --> 00:04:42,282 and I believe he spoke 182 00:04:39,713 --> 00:04:42,282 to Kelly Baker as well. 183 00:04:42,282 --> 00:04:44,451 And then he did 184 00:04:42,282 --> 00:04:44,451 a cursory examination, 185 00:04:44,451 --> 00:04:47,220 and he told me 186 00:04:44,451 --> 00:04:47,220 that he thought 187 00:04:47,220 --> 00:04:49,322 possibly he died 188 00:04:47,220 --> 00:04:49,322 of natural causes 189 00:04:49,322 --> 00:04:50,857 with all 190 00:04:49,322 --> 00:04:50,857 the health issues. 191 00:04:50,857 --> 00:04:52,926 - Did that surprise you? 192 00:04:52,926 --> 00:04:54,227 - Well, wasn't sure. 193 00:04:54,227 --> 00:04:55,862 I mean, it was possible 194 00:04:54,227 --> 00:04:55,862 with the health issues, 195 00:04:55,862 --> 00:04:58,980 but I didn't really know 196 00:04:55,862 --> 00:04:58,980 at that time. 197 00:04:58,980 --> 00:05:00,233 Could be anything. 198 00:05:00,233 --> 00:05:02,135 - Indeed. 199 00:05:02,135 --> 00:05:04,204 Kelly called 200 00:05:02,135 --> 00:05:04,204 Randy's daughter, 201 00:05:04,204 --> 00:05:05,438 her stepdaughter. 202 00:05:05,438 --> 00:05:07,841 Betty Winick knew 203 00:05:05,438 --> 00:05:07,841 her dad's heart 204 00:05:07,841 --> 00:05:09,442 would eventually 205 00:05:07,841 --> 00:05:09,442 give out. 206 00:05:09,442 --> 00:05:12,712 - I pictured the day 207 00:05:09,442 --> 00:05:12,712 for a really long time. 208 00:05:12,712 --> 00:05:16,316 But you never can 209 00:05:12,712 --> 00:05:16,316 picture it, like, the-- 210 00:05:16,316 --> 00:05:17,517 I was angry. 211 00:05:17,517 --> 00:05:20,530 I didn't think 212 00:05:17,517 --> 00:05:20,530 I'd be angry. 213 00:05:20,530 --> 00:05:23,890 But I just remember 214 00:05:20,530 --> 00:05:23,890 yelling at my husband 215 00:05:23,890 --> 00:05:27,293 to get there faster 216 00:05:23,890 --> 00:05:27,293 'cause I didn't believe it. 217 00:05:27,293 --> 00:05:28,328 - Just trying to put it 218 00:05:27,293 --> 00:05:28,328 in context 219 00:05:28,328 --> 00:05:30,130 what that morning 220 00:05:28,328 --> 00:05:30,130 must've been like for you. 221 00:05:30,130 --> 00:05:32,132 It just-- I can't. 222 00:05:32,132 --> 00:05:37,404 - I put on a strong face 223 00:05:32,132 --> 00:05:37,404 for people, though, so-- 224 00:05:37,404 --> 00:05:39,439 because there was-- 225 00:05:37,404 --> 00:05:39,439 Kelly was there, 226 00:05:39,439 --> 00:05:43,760 my aunt Carol was there, 227 00:05:39,439 --> 00:05:43,760 and the police were still there. 228 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,779 I-I broke down 229 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,779 for a split second 230 00:05:45,779 --> 00:05:49,382 and then composed myself 231 00:05:45,779 --> 00:05:49,382 and I was okay. 232 00:05:49,382 --> 00:05:51,518 - She had to tell 233 00:05:49,382 --> 00:05:51,518 her mother Dory 234 00:05:51,518 --> 00:05:53,953 about Randy's death. 235 00:05:51,518 --> 00:05:53,953 Wasn't easy. 236 00:05:53,953 --> 00:05:56,489 Dory and Randy had 237 00:05:53,953 --> 00:05:56,489 divorced years before, 238 00:05:56,489 --> 00:05:57,891 but she still loved him. 239 00:05:57,891 --> 00:05:59,693 - I could tell 240 00:05:57,891 --> 00:05:59,693 she'd been cryin'. 241 00:05:59,693 --> 00:06:00,727 I said, "Betty, 242 00:05:59,693 --> 00:06:00,727 what's wrong?" 243 00:06:00,727 --> 00:06:03,730 And she goes, 244 00:06:00,727 --> 00:06:03,730 "Dad's gone." 245 00:06:03,730 --> 00:06:05,932 And I said, "No. 246 00:06:05,932 --> 00:06:07,300 No." 247 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:09,269 She goes, "Mom, 248 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:09,269 they found him this mornin'." 249 00:06:09,269 --> 00:06:11,104 But I said, "Betty, 250 00:06:09,269 --> 00:06:11,104 something's wrong. 251 00:06:11,104 --> 00:06:13,673 Something's wrong. 252 00:06:11,104 --> 00:06:13,673 Something's wrong." 253 00:06:13,673 --> 00:06:16,309 - Thing is, back at the house 254 00:06:13,673 --> 00:06:16,309 that morning, 255 00:06:16,309 --> 00:06:18,778 Officer Medhurst was thinking 256 00:06:16,309 --> 00:06:18,778 the very same thing. 257 00:06:18,778 --> 00:06:20,513 Especially after 258 00:06:18,778 --> 00:06:20,513 Kelly told him 259 00:06:20,513 --> 00:06:22,849 the Pontiac was missing 260 00:06:22,849 --> 00:06:25,418 along with his keys 261 00:06:22,849 --> 00:06:25,418 and wallet. 262 00:06:25,418 --> 00:06:27,754 Could be some innocent reason, 263 00:06:25,418 --> 00:06:27,754 of course. 264 00:06:27,754 --> 00:06:29,189 He had dinged his car, 265 00:06:29,189 --> 00:06:32,920 so maybe he'd taken it in 266 00:06:29,189 --> 00:06:32,920 for repairs. 267 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:33,590 - So, I asked Kelly 268 00:06:33,590 --> 00:06:35,950 if there was a mechanic 269 00:06:33,590 --> 00:06:35,950 that Randy used, 270 00:06:35,950 --> 00:06:36,396 and she named 271 00:06:35,950 --> 00:06:36,396 the local mechanic. 272 00:06:36,396 --> 00:06:37,664 And I called them. 273 00:06:37,664 --> 00:06:39,733 And I said, 274 00:06:37,664 --> 00:06:39,733 "Is this car there?" 275 00:06:39,733 --> 00:06:41,634 And they said no, 276 00:06:39,733 --> 00:06:41,634 it wasn't there. 277 00:06:41,634 --> 00:06:43,536 - So, where was it? 278 00:06:43,536 --> 00:06:45,710 Had he driven it home? 279 00:06:45,710 --> 00:06:48,375 Did he have it when he bought 280 00:06:45,710 --> 00:06:48,375 his Mexican take-out? 281 00:06:48,375 --> 00:06:49,609 - The owner 282 00:06:48,375 --> 00:06:49,609 of the restaurant 283 00:06:49,609 --> 00:06:51,611 showed me 284 00:06:49,609 --> 00:06:51,611 their video surveillance. 285 00:06:51,611 --> 00:06:53,446 I was able 286 00:06:51,611 --> 00:06:53,446 to find a car, 287 00:06:53,446 --> 00:06:55,215 it appeared 288 00:06:53,446 --> 00:06:55,215 to be Randy's, 289 00:06:55,215 --> 00:06:56,383 driving through 290 00:06:55,215 --> 00:06:56,383 the drive-through 291 00:06:56,383 --> 00:06:59,850 to get an order 292 00:06:56,383 --> 00:06:59,850 matching the food 293 00:06:59,850 --> 00:07:01,421 that I found next to him-- 294 00:06:59,850 --> 00:07:01,421 his body. 295 00:07:01,421 --> 00:07:04,591 - So, now you know 296 00:07:01,421 --> 00:07:04,591 a lot more. 297 00:07:04,591 --> 00:07:06,226 - I knew the car had 298 00:07:04,591 --> 00:07:06,226 made it to Greeley. 299 00:07:06,226 --> 00:07:09,195 - And probably all the way home 300 00:07:06,226 --> 00:07:09,195 with Randy. 301 00:07:09,195 --> 00:07:11,131 But after that? 302 00:07:11,131 --> 00:07:13,733 - Had no idea. 303 00:07:13,733 --> 00:07:18,710 - Two days later, 304 00:07:13,733 --> 00:07:18,710 Medhurst got the news. 305 00:07:18,710 --> 00:07:19,305 During the autopsy, 306 00:07:19,305 --> 00:07:21,808 the medical examiner 307 00:07:19,305 --> 00:07:21,808 had taken a closer look. 308 00:07:21,808 --> 00:07:22,809 Scraped the blood away 309 00:07:22,809 --> 00:07:24,411 from Randy's head 310 00:07:22,809 --> 00:07:24,411 and shoulder. 311 00:07:24,411 --> 00:07:27,470 And what do you know. 312 00:07:27,470 --> 00:07:28,748 - My phone started 313 00:07:27,470 --> 00:07:28,748 ringin' off the hook 314 00:07:28,748 --> 00:07:32,385 and the investigation sergeant 315 00:07:28,748 --> 00:07:32,385 notified me 316 00:07:32,385 --> 00:07:35,188 that Randy had died 317 00:07:32,385 --> 00:07:35,188 from two gunshot wounds. 318 00:07:35,188 --> 00:07:36,956 - What did you think 319 00:07:35,188 --> 00:07:36,956 when you heard that? 320 00:07:36,956 --> 00:07:40,600 - I thought "Boy, 321 00:07:36,956 --> 00:07:40,600 I was right." 322 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:41,828 - Natural causes? 323 00:07:41,828 --> 00:07:43,396 Please. 324 00:07:43,396 --> 00:07:46,933 This was murder. 325 00:07:46,933 --> 00:07:49,369 - As the investigation starts, 326 00:07:46,933 --> 00:07:49,369 police discover 327 00:07:49,369 --> 00:07:54,207 a dark time from Randy's past 328 00:07:49,369 --> 00:07:54,207 and a potential lead. 329 00:08:03,490 --> 00:08:17,263 - Betty Winick's father 330 00:08:03,490 --> 00:08:17,263 had a very bad heart. 331 00:08:18,310 --> 00:08:20,266 She knew she could 332 00:08:18,310 --> 00:08:20,266 lose him soon. 333 00:08:20,266 --> 00:08:22,335 Thought she was ready. 334 00:08:22,335 --> 00:08:24,904 But she wasn't. 335 00:08:24,904 --> 00:08:26,239 Not at all. 336 00:08:26,239 --> 00:08:28,308 Grief like a sledgehammer. 337 00:08:28,308 --> 00:08:30,760 - I don't know if you 338 00:08:28,308 --> 00:08:30,760 watch "Grey's Anatomy," 339 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,679 but that term "my person--" 340 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,679 - Yeah? 341 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,514 - Yes. 342 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,514 He was my person. 343 00:08:34,514 --> 00:08:38,251 So, I went to him for 344 00:08:34,514 --> 00:08:38,251 anything and everything. 345 00:08:38,251 --> 00:08:41,354 - Of course, police knew 346 00:08:38,251 --> 00:08:41,354 Randy had been shot to death, 347 00:08:41,354 --> 00:08:43,789 and his killer must've 348 00:08:41,354 --> 00:08:43,789 taken his car. 349 00:08:43,789 --> 00:08:46,926 But they didn't tell Betty 350 00:08:43,789 --> 00:08:46,926 or the rest of the family. 351 00:08:46,926 --> 00:08:48,428 Not right away. 352 00:08:48,428 --> 00:08:50,430 - They kept asking about guns 353 00:08:48,428 --> 00:08:50,430 and I was like, 354 00:08:50,430 --> 00:08:51,831 all right, 355 00:08:50,430 --> 00:08:51,831 this is weird. 356 00:08:51,831 --> 00:08:53,767 - So, after a couple of hours, 357 00:08:51,831 --> 00:08:53,767 they told you what? 358 00:08:53,767 --> 00:08:56,770 - My father's case was 359 00:08:53,767 --> 00:08:56,770 considered a murder case. 360 00:08:56,770 --> 00:08:58,710 I think 361 00:08:56,770 --> 00:08:58,710 in the back of my mind 362 00:08:58,710 --> 00:09:00,340 I already knew 363 00:08:58,710 --> 00:09:00,340 it wasn't a natural death. 364 00:09:00,340 --> 00:09:03,476 - By this time, detectives 365 00:09:00,340 --> 00:09:03,476 had pieced together 366 00:09:03,476 --> 00:09:05,278 Randy's final hours. 367 00:09:05,278 --> 00:09:07,614 Had collected 368 00:09:05,278 --> 00:09:07,614 security camera footage 369 00:09:07,614 --> 00:09:11,170 showing Randy leaving work 370 00:09:07,614 --> 00:09:11,170 around 5:35 P.M. 371 00:09:11,170 --> 00:09:14,921 And that video from the Mexican 372 00:09:11,170 --> 00:09:14,921 take-out place at 7:30. 373 00:09:14,921 --> 00:09:17,357 - Thank you so much 374 00:09:14,921 --> 00:09:17,357 for choosing Santiago's. 375 00:09:17,357 --> 00:09:19,325 - The restaurant is about 376 00:09:17,357 --> 00:09:19,325 a 10-minute drive 377 00:09:19,325 --> 00:09:20,460 from the house, 378 00:09:20,460 --> 00:09:24,130 meaning Randy must've been 379 00:09:20,460 --> 00:09:24,130 murdered around 7:45. 380 00:09:24,130 --> 00:09:26,566 But by whom? 381 00:09:26,566 --> 00:09:28,468 The answer, 382 00:09:26,566 --> 00:09:28,468 police knew, 383 00:09:28,468 --> 00:09:31,304 might depend a lot 384 00:09:28,468 --> 00:09:31,304 on Randy himself. 385 00:09:31,304 --> 00:09:35,175 Something in his behavior, 386 00:09:31,304 --> 00:09:35,175 his life. 387 00:09:35,175 --> 00:09:38,411 Which, Betty told them, 388 00:09:35,175 --> 00:09:38,411 had been rough sometimes. 389 00:09:38,411 --> 00:09:40,680 - He was a counselor 390 00:09:38,411 --> 00:09:40,680 since I was 4 or 5. 391 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:42,649 - What kind of counseling 392 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:42,649 did he do? 393 00:09:42,649 --> 00:09:44,484 - Drug and alcohol 394 00:09:42,649 --> 00:09:44,484 addiction counseling. 395 00:09:44,484 --> 00:09:46,186 - He had some experience 396 00:09:44,484 --> 00:09:46,186 with that. 397 00:09:46,186 --> 00:09:48,655 - Yes, he had a lot of 398 00:09:46,186 --> 00:09:48,655 experience with that, so. 399 00:09:48,655 --> 00:09:50,457 - What did you 400 00:09:48,655 --> 00:09:50,457 know about that? 401 00:09:50,457 --> 00:09:51,391 - Not a lot. 402 00:09:51,391 --> 00:09:53,590 He didn't like 403 00:09:51,391 --> 00:09:53,590 to talk about it. 404 00:09:53,590 --> 00:09:56,162 Um, just that 405 00:09:53,590 --> 00:09:56,162 he almost died. 406 00:09:56,162 --> 00:09:58,231 - When Randy was 28, 407 00:09:58,231 --> 00:10:01,735 a strapping bear of a man 408 00:09:58,231 --> 00:10:01,735 6 feet 5 inches tall, 409 00:10:01,735 --> 00:10:04,337 he was a lineman 410 00:10:01,735 --> 00:10:04,337 for the local power company. 411 00:10:04,337 --> 00:10:07,874 Dory Baker, Betty's mother 412 00:10:04,337 --> 00:10:07,874 and Randy's first wife, 413 00:10:07,874 --> 00:10:09,242 could tell that story. 414 00:10:09,242 --> 00:10:12,579 - He was on the line 415 00:10:09,242 --> 00:10:12,579 and he got a jolt. 416 00:10:12,579 --> 00:10:15,215 He-- That-- 417 00:10:12,579 --> 00:10:15,215 He was electrocuted. 418 00:10:15,215 --> 00:10:17,584 - He was never the same 419 00:10:15,215 --> 00:10:17,584 after that. 420 00:10:17,584 --> 00:10:19,652 Heart permanently 421 00:10:17,584 --> 00:10:19,652 damaged. 422 00:10:19,652 --> 00:10:22,455 Terrible pain. 423 00:10:19,652 --> 00:10:22,455 Depression. 424 00:10:22,455 --> 00:10:24,691 Not hard to guess 425 00:10:22,455 --> 00:10:24,691 the next part. 426 00:10:24,691 --> 00:10:27,293 He tried to escape 427 00:10:24,691 --> 00:10:27,293 his misery with drugs. 428 00:10:27,293 --> 00:10:29,295 - There was just 429 00:10:27,293 --> 00:10:29,295 so much pain there. 430 00:10:29,295 --> 00:10:33,233 And-And he didn't know 431 00:10:29,295 --> 00:10:33,233 what to do with it. 432 00:10:33,233 --> 00:10:35,669 - He wallowed in 433 00:10:33,233 --> 00:10:35,669 his addiction. 434 00:10:35,669 --> 00:10:38,471 Got so bad 435 00:10:35,669 --> 00:10:38,471 he was even dealing drugs. 436 00:10:38,471 --> 00:10:42,575 But then, after 3 hard years, 437 00:10:38,471 --> 00:10:42,575 he cleaned up his life. 438 00:10:42,575 --> 00:10:45,110 No more drugs 439 00:10:42,575 --> 00:10:45,110 or dealing. 440 00:10:45,110 --> 00:10:46,613 And that's when 441 00:10:45,110 --> 00:10:46,613 he promised 442 00:10:46,613 --> 00:10:49,282 to help others 443 00:10:46,613 --> 00:10:49,282 get clean too. 444 00:10:49,282 --> 00:10:50,817 It's what made him 445 00:10:49,282 --> 00:10:50,817 a committed counselor 446 00:10:50,817 --> 00:10:51,851 as much as 447 00:10:50,817 --> 00:10:51,851 anything else. 448 00:10:51,851 --> 00:10:53,186 - Pretty much. 449 00:10:51,851 --> 00:10:53,186 Pretty much. 450 00:10:53,186 --> 00:10:55,722 - Randy helped 451 00:10:53,186 --> 00:10:55,722 a lot of people. 452 00:10:55,722 --> 00:10:58,892 Strangers. 453 00:10:55,722 --> 00:10:58,892 Friends. Family. 454 00:10:58,892 --> 00:11:01,494 One of his nephews having 455 00:10:58,892 --> 00:11:01,494 trouble with drugs himself 456 00:11:01,494 --> 00:11:05,131 texted this Father's Day wish 457 00:11:01,494 --> 00:11:05,131 in 2015. 458 00:11:16,743 --> 00:11:19,646 So, Randy triumphed 459 00:11:16,743 --> 00:11:19,646 over his demons. 460 00:11:19,646 --> 00:11:21,147 Even got his health back. 461 00:11:21,147 --> 00:11:22,582 And then one day, 462 00:11:22,582 --> 00:11:27,870 a local hairdresser named Kelly 463 00:11:22,582 --> 00:11:27,870 entered their lives. 464 00:11:27,870 --> 00:11:29,489 - And she actually cut 465 00:11:27,870 --> 00:11:29,489 your dad's hair-- 466 00:11:29,489 --> 00:11:30,657 - Yes. 467 00:11:29,489 --> 00:11:30,657 - And your mom's hair too? 468 00:11:30,657 --> 00:11:33,930 - Yep. We lived a few houses 469 00:11:30,657 --> 00:11:33,930 away from each other. 470 00:11:33,930 --> 00:11:35,562 - Tell me about her. 471 00:11:33,930 --> 00:11:35,562 - Very cute. 472 00:11:35,562 --> 00:11:38,331 Very sweet and quiet. 473 00:11:38,331 --> 00:11:41,100 And when I saw Kelly 474 00:11:38,331 --> 00:11:41,100 actually look at my husband 475 00:11:41,100 --> 00:11:44,104 with the look that sh-- 476 00:11:41,100 --> 00:11:44,104 I knew I was in trouble. 477 00:11:44,104 --> 00:11:44,971 - What was the look? 478 00:11:44,971 --> 00:11:47,240 - It was-- She was gaga 479 00:11:44,971 --> 00:11:47,240 over my man. 480 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,776 And I said, 481 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,776 "Yeah. It's over." 482 00:11:49,776 --> 00:11:51,845 - She was right. 483 00:11:51,845 --> 00:11:53,980 Dory found herself 484 00:11:51,845 --> 00:11:53,980 replaced 485 00:11:53,980 --> 00:11:56,116 by Kelly 486 00:11:53,980 --> 00:11:56,116 the hairdresser. 487 00:11:56,116 --> 00:11:57,684 - It broke my heart. 488 00:11:57,684 --> 00:11:59,419 I-I was very depressed. 489 00:11:59,419 --> 00:12:01,121 - Were you angry 490 00:11:59,419 --> 00:12:01,121 at him for a while? 491 00:12:01,121 --> 00:12:03,323 - I think 492 00:12:01,121 --> 00:12:03,323 I was young enough 493 00:12:03,323 --> 00:12:05,492 that I didn't 494 00:12:03,323 --> 00:12:05,492 understand it. 495 00:12:05,492 --> 00:12:07,360 We were actually 496 00:12:05,492 --> 00:12:07,360 pretty close. 497 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,329 They were married 498 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,329 18 years. 499 00:12:09,329 --> 00:12:10,530 I called her "Mom." 500 00:12:10,530 --> 00:12:13,433 - Kelly set up 501 00:12:10,530 --> 00:12:13,433 her new hair salon 502 00:12:13,433 --> 00:12:15,435 in Randy's basement. 503 00:12:15,435 --> 00:12:18,538 And Randy reveled 504 00:12:15,435 --> 00:12:18,538 in his new life. 505 00:12:18,538 --> 00:12:21,740 Kelly, her kids, 506 00:12:18,538 --> 00:12:21,740 his kid, 507 00:12:21,740 --> 00:12:24,844 and the other love of his life, 508 00:12:21,740 --> 00:12:24,844 his Harley. 509 00:12:24,844 --> 00:12:26,946 - Harley Davidson 510 00:12:24,844 --> 00:12:26,946 Road King. 511 00:12:26,946 --> 00:12:29,182 I think, like, '95. 512 00:12:29,182 --> 00:12:31,551 It was his thing. 513 00:12:31,551 --> 00:12:34,587 And he didn't ride it often, 514 00:12:31,551 --> 00:12:34,587 especially the last, like, 515 00:12:34,587 --> 00:12:37,900 10 years, 516 00:12:34,587 --> 00:12:37,900 'cause he was sick. 517 00:12:37,900 --> 00:12:38,825 - His heart again. 518 00:12:38,825 --> 00:12:42,362 Cardiomyopathy wasn't easy 519 00:12:38,825 --> 00:12:42,362 for him or Kelly. 520 00:12:42,362 --> 00:12:44,397 - He was on many 521 00:12:42,362 --> 00:12:44,397 medications. 522 00:12:44,397 --> 00:12:46,633 She would do, like, clean-- 523 00:12:44,397 --> 00:12:46,633 the house was pretty big 524 00:12:46,633 --> 00:12:49,703 and, you know, she would be 525 00:12:46,633 --> 00:12:49,703 the caretaker 526 00:12:49,703 --> 00:12:51,738 even though 527 00:12:49,703 --> 00:12:51,738 he didn't need one. 528 00:12:51,738 --> 00:12:55,108 - But Betty said Randy wanted 529 00:12:51,738 --> 00:12:55,108 Kelly to care for him. 530 00:12:55,108 --> 00:12:57,243 And she did, for years. 531 00:12:57,243 --> 00:13:00,213 Until she just 532 00:12:57,243 --> 00:13:00,213 couldn't anymore. 533 00:13:00,213 --> 00:13:01,748 - She was 11 years younger 534 00:13:01,748 --> 00:13:03,850 and I think it was starting 535 00:13:01,748 --> 00:13:03,850 to get to her 536 00:13:03,850 --> 00:13:07,870 that she was still 537 00:13:03,850 --> 00:13:07,870 kind of pretty young. 538 00:13:07,870 --> 00:13:09,522 - It was the spring of 2017 539 00:13:09,522 --> 00:13:12,258 when Randy was recovering 540 00:13:09,522 --> 00:13:12,258 from open-heart surgery. 541 00:13:12,258 --> 00:13:15,495 Kelly said she just 542 00:13:12,258 --> 00:13:15,495 couldn't take it anymore, 543 00:13:15,495 --> 00:13:17,297 and she moved out. 544 00:13:17,297 --> 00:13:18,631 - And at first, 545 00:13:17,297 --> 00:13:18,631 I was like, 546 00:13:18,631 --> 00:13:20,433 I could kind of 547 00:13:18,631 --> 00:13:20,433 understand that. 548 00:13:20,433 --> 00:13:24,637 - But 2 months later, 549 00:13:20,433 --> 00:13:24,637 Randy was dead. 550 00:13:24,637 --> 00:13:27,730 And police were calling in 551 00:13:24,637 --> 00:13:27,730 family members 552 00:13:27,730 --> 00:13:30,643 to tell them 553 00:13:27,730 --> 00:13:30,643 exactly how he died. 554 00:13:30,643 --> 00:13:33,790 [crying] 555 00:13:33,790 --> 00:13:35,715 Kelly had trouble 556 00:13:33,790 --> 00:13:35,715 dealing with it. 557 00:13:35,715 --> 00:13:38,551 Still, they asked 558 00:13:35,715 --> 00:13:38,551 for her help. 559 00:13:42,122 --> 00:13:43,523 But she calmed herself. 560 00:13:43,523 --> 00:13:48,661 And she did mention Randy's 561 00:13:43,523 --> 00:13:48,661 dedication to his job. 562 00:13:54,968 --> 00:13:58,405 But, said Kelly, 563 00:13:54,968 --> 00:13:58,405 he'd been one of them once. 564 00:13:58,405 --> 00:14:00,373 So, maybe he'd made 565 00:13:58,405 --> 00:14:00,373 some enemies. 566 00:14:13,787 --> 00:14:17,570 And then, they looked 567 00:14:13,787 --> 00:14:17,570 at the bullets 568 00:14:17,570 --> 00:14:20,193 that killed Randy Baker 569 00:14:17,570 --> 00:14:20,193 more closely. 570 00:14:20,193 --> 00:14:22,562 He wasn't shot with a gun. 571 00:14:22,562 --> 00:14:24,364 There were two. 572 00:14:24,364 --> 00:14:25,432 Two guns. 573 00:14:25,432 --> 00:14:28,568 So, a drug-related hit? 574 00:14:28,568 --> 00:14:31,304 Maybe Kelly was 575 00:14:28,568 --> 00:14:31,304 on to something. 576 00:14:34,207 --> 00:14:36,276 - Two shooters? 577 00:14:34,207 --> 00:14:36,276 - One could argue that. 578 00:14:36,276 --> 00:14:38,645 - You didn't know. 579 00:14:36,276 --> 00:14:38,645 - No. 580 00:14:38,645 --> 00:14:41,247 - Another side 581 00:14:38,645 --> 00:14:41,247 of Randy Baker. 582 00:14:43,830 --> 00:14:44,250 - She explained that, uh, 583 00:14:44,250 --> 00:14:48,288 Randy was not necessarily 584 00:14:44,250 --> 00:14:48,288 nice to her, uh, often. 585 00:14:48,288 --> 00:14:50,900 Uh, that he was volatile. 586 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:53,930 - And another man 587 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:53,930 enters the picture. 588 00:14:57,464 --> 00:15:09,776 - Randy Baker's 589 00:14:57,464 --> 00:15:09,776 life began 590 00:15:10,543 --> 00:15:13,580 in the same random way 591 00:15:10,543 --> 00:15:13,580 all life begins. 592 00:15:13,580 --> 00:15:15,515 But its end? 593 00:15:15,515 --> 00:15:17,384 That was no accident. 594 00:15:17,384 --> 00:15:21,388 Somebody or somebodies 595 00:15:17,384 --> 00:15:21,388 made double sure 596 00:15:21,388 --> 00:15:24,900 with two bullets 597 00:15:21,388 --> 00:15:24,900 from two different guns. 598 00:15:24,900 --> 00:15:25,725 Does that mean 599 00:15:24,900 --> 00:15:25,725 two shooters? 600 00:15:25,725 --> 00:15:27,861 - One could argue that. 601 00:15:27,861 --> 00:15:30,130 - You didn't know. 602 00:15:27,861 --> 00:15:30,130 - No. 603 00:15:30,130 --> 00:15:32,165 - Veteran detectives 604 00:15:30,130 --> 00:15:32,165 Chris Onderlinde 605 00:15:32,165 --> 00:15:34,868 and Mike Prill 606 00:15:32,165 --> 00:15:34,868 were assigned to the case. 607 00:15:34,868 --> 00:15:36,870 It was still early. 608 00:15:36,870 --> 00:15:38,505 Lot to figure out. 609 00:15:38,505 --> 00:15:40,674 - We're still just tryin' 610 00:15:38,505 --> 00:15:40,674 to get ahead of the ball game 611 00:15:40,674 --> 00:15:42,542 or catch up, um, 612 00:15:40,674 --> 00:15:42,542 and find out 613 00:15:42,542 --> 00:15:45,378 what everyone's statements are, 614 00:15:42,542 --> 00:15:45,378 where were they, 615 00:15:45,378 --> 00:15:48,281 what issues that may 616 00:15:45,378 --> 00:15:48,281 or may not be there. 617 00:15:48,281 --> 00:15:51,251 - First, they had to clear 618 00:15:48,281 --> 00:15:51,251 the usual suspects. 619 00:15:51,251 --> 00:15:53,253 They had brought Kelly in, 620 00:15:51,251 --> 00:15:53,253 of course. 621 00:15:53,253 --> 00:15:55,288 She was 622 00:15:53,253 --> 00:15:55,288 the murdered man's spouse. 623 00:15:55,288 --> 00:15:58,358 So, would she benefit 624 00:15:55,288 --> 00:15:58,358 from his death? 625 00:16:08,935 --> 00:16:10,770 - Pretty nominal amounts. 626 00:16:08,935 --> 00:16:10,770 - Yeah. 627 00:16:10,770 --> 00:16:12,539 So, not really worth 628 00:16:10,770 --> 00:16:12,539 killing somebody. 629 00:16:12,539 --> 00:16:13,373 - Right. 630 00:16:13,373 --> 00:16:15,241 - As for their relationship, 631 00:16:15,241 --> 00:16:19,479 well, Kelly offered 632 00:16:15,241 --> 00:16:19,479 a different view of Randy. 633 00:16:27,654 --> 00:16:28,888 - She explained that, uh, 634 00:16:28,888 --> 00:16:32,792 Randy was not necessarily 635 00:16:28,888 --> 00:16:32,792 nice to her, uh, often. 636 00:16:32,792 --> 00:16:34,794 Um, that he was volatile. 637 00:16:34,794 --> 00:16:36,620 That she had moved 638 00:16:34,794 --> 00:16:36,620 out of the home 639 00:16:36,620 --> 00:16:37,664 and was staying 640 00:16:36,620 --> 00:16:37,664 with her friend Teri. 641 00:16:37,664 --> 00:16:40,165 - Then, about an hour and a half 642 00:16:37,664 --> 00:16:40,165 into the interview, 643 00:16:40,165 --> 00:16:43,103 the detective kind of 644 00:16:40,165 --> 00:16:43,103 offhandedly asked Kelly 645 00:16:43,103 --> 00:16:45,939 a question she clearly 646 00:16:43,103 --> 00:16:45,939 didn't want to answer. 647 00:16:53,980 --> 00:16:56,983 Well, now, 648 00:16:53,980 --> 00:16:56,983 that was interesting. 649 00:16:56,983 --> 00:16:59,319 A non-answer 650 00:16:56,983 --> 00:16:59,319 like a neon sign. 651 00:16:59,319 --> 00:17:00,787 Couldn't ignore that. 652 00:17:13,299 --> 00:17:14,867 What did you think 653 00:17:13,299 --> 00:17:14,867 when you heard that? 654 00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:17,470 - Unfortunately, 655 00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:17,470 it's not an uncommon thing 656 00:17:17,470 --> 00:17:19,472 of, okay, she's-she's 657 00:17:17,470 --> 00:17:19,472 having an affair. 658 00:17:19,472 --> 00:17:22,342 Does that-- Does that mean 659 00:17:19,472 --> 00:17:22,342 Klint could be a suspect? 660 00:17:22,342 --> 00:17:24,770 Well, obviously, we're going 661 00:17:22,342 --> 00:17:24,770 to ask and talk to him. 662 00:17:24,770 --> 00:17:26,112 - And they did. 663 00:17:26,112 --> 00:17:28,381 And Klint admitted 664 00:17:26,112 --> 00:17:28,381 the affair. 665 00:17:28,381 --> 00:17:31,484 He and Kelly were together 666 00:17:28,381 --> 00:17:31,484 in bed all night 667 00:17:31,484 --> 00:17:33,553 the night her husband 668 00:17:31,484 --> 00:17:33,553 was murdered. 669 00:17:33,553 --> 00:17:35,188 Kelly Baker, meanwhile, 670 00:17:35,188 --> 00:17:37,857 told her step-daughter, Betty, 671 00:17:35,188 --> 00:17:37,857 what it was like 672 00:17:37,857 --> 00:17:40,860 to get what felt to her 673 00:17:37,857 --> 00:17:40,860 like the third degree. 674 00:17:40,860 --> 00:17:43,863 - She was like, "They almost 675 00:17:40,860 --> 00:17:43,863 treated me like a suspect." 676 00:17:43,863 --> 00:17:45,398 She was like, "I guess 677 00:17:43,863 --> 00:17:45,398 that's normal though, 678 00:17:45,398 --> 00:17:47,834 'cause I'm the-- like, 679 00:17:45,398 --> 00:17:47,834 was almost an ex-wife 680 00:17:47,834 --> 00:17:49,602 and I had left." 681 00:17:49,602 --> 00:17:51,171 - Betty's head was in a haze 682 00:17:51,171 --> 00:17:54,740 during those first few days 683 00:17:51,171 --> 00:17:54,740 after her father's death. 684 00:17:54,740 --> 00:17:57,243 And desperate to have 685 00:17:54,740 --> 00:17:57,243 something to remember him by, 686 00:17:57,243 --> 00:18:00,747 she asked if she could have 687 00:17:57,243 --> 00:18:00,747 her dad's Harley. 688 00:18:00,747 --> 00:18:02,816 And so, it was a shock 689 00:18:02,816 --> 00:18:06,186 when her step-mom told her 690 00:18:02,816 --> 00:18:06,186 it was gone. 691 00:18:06,186 --> 00:18:09,856 - She said that 692 00:18:06,186 --> 00:18:09,856 he sold it, 693 00:18:09,856 --> 00:18:12,920 and that it's 694 00:18:09,856 --> 00:18:12,920 not in her hands. 695 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,600 That she's-- knew nothing 696 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,600 about the sale, 697 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,290 essentially, 698 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,290 is what she told me. 699 00:18:16,290 --> 00:18:18,164 - That was the story. 700 00:18:16,290 --> 00:18:18,164 - Is what she-- Yes. Yep. 701 00:18:18,164 --> 00:18:19,199 - Odd. 702 00:18:19,199 --> 00:18:21,368 Why would he sell 703 00:18:19,199 --> 00:18:21,368 his prized bike? 704 00:18:21,368 --> 00:18:23,436 And then, just as the 705 00:18:21,368 --> 00:18:23,436 detectives were starting 706 00:18:23,436 --> 00:18:26,373 to dig into that puzzle, 707 00:18:23,436 --> 00:18:26,373 what do you know. 708 00:18:26,373 --> 00:18:29,275 Five days after Randy 709 00:18:26,373 --> 00:18:29,275 Baker was murdered, 710 00:18:29,275 --> 00:18:32,645 somebody found 711 00:18:29,275 --> 00:18:32,645 his missing Pontiac. 712 00:18:32,645 --> 00:18:35,682 - This is, uh, Randy Baker's 713 00:18:32,645 --> 00:18:35,682 Pontiac G6. 714 00:18:35,682 --> 00:18:37,650 It's the one he was drivin' 715 00:18:35,682 --> 00:18:37,650 the day he was murdered. 716 00:18:37,650 --> 00:18:40,530 - So, how does it wind up 717 00:18:37,650 --> 00:18:40,530 in here in the police lot? 718 00:18:40,530 --> 00:18:41,755 - A citizen actually 719 00:18:40,530 --> 00:18:41,755 called from South Greeley 720 00:18:41,755 --> 00:18:45,125 and spotted it in an alley 721 00:18:41,755 --> 00:18:45,125 down by the college. 722 00:18:45,125 --> 00:18:46,359 It had been abandoned. 723 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:47,160 The plates 724 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:47,160 had been removed 725 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,829 and, um, the key 726 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,829 was locked in on-- 727 00:18:49,829 --> 00:18:51,640 inside on the floorboard, 728 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,733 and the car had obviously 729 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,733 been wiped down. 730 00:18:53,733 --> 00:18:55,802 - Who ditched the car? 731 00:18:55,802 --> 00:18:57,737 Investigators 732 00:18:55,802 --> 00:18:57,737 didn't know. 733 00:18:57,737 --> 00:19:00,273 But the police asked 734 00:18:57,737 --> 00:19:00,273 the public for help, 735 00:19:00,273 --> 00:19:03,209 and a few days later, 736 00:19:00,273 --> 00:19:03,209 a tip came in. 737 00:19:03,209 --> 00:19:08,348 Randy's Pontiac had been 738 00:19:03,209 --> 00:19:08,348 listed for sale on Facebook. 739 00:19:08,348 --> 00:19:10,617 - And so, we followed up 740 00:19:08,348 --> 00:19:10,617 on that Facebook post 741 00:19:10,617 --> 00:19:13,520 and tracked down, uh, 742 00:19:10,617 --> 00:19:13,520 this-this female 743 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,220 that was tryin' 744 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,220 to offload Randy's car. 745 00:19:24,464 --> 00:19:28,435 And that led to yet 746 00:19:24,464 --> 00:19:28,435 another career criminal 747 00:19:28,435 --> 00:19:30,737 to another 748 00:19:28,435 --> 00:19:30,737 and to another. 749 00:19:30,737 --> 00:19:32,439 - A motley crew. 750 00:19:32,439 --> 00:19:33,673 They brought them in, 751 00:19:33,673 --> 00:19:35,442 asked them personal 752 00:19:33,673 --> 00:19:35,442 questions like, 753 00:19:35,442 --> 00:19:37,377 "Where were you 754 00:19:35,442 --> 00:19:37,377 when Randy was shot? 755 00:19:37,377 --> 00:19:38,578 How'd you get the car?" 756 00:19:38,578 --> 00:19:40,914 And that's when this 757 00:19:38,578 --> 00:19:40,914 ragged band 758 00:19:40,914 --> 00:19:44,500 of walking felonies 759 00:19:40,914 --> 00:19:44,500 offered up a true shocker. 760 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:45,785 They had gotten the car, 761 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:45,785 they said, 762 00:19:45,785 --> 00:19:49,550 from someone close 763 00:19:45,785 --> 00:19:49,550 to Randy Baker. 764 00:19:49,550 --> 00:19:52,920 Someone not named Kelly. 765 00:19:54,728 --> 00:19:56,620 - I have to have 766 00:19:54,728 --> 00:19:56,620 those phones. 767 00:19:56,620 --> 00:19:57,497 - You take 'em away, 768 00:19:56,620 --> 00:19:57,497 my goodness. 769 00:19:57,497 --> 00:19:59,265 - And what's inside. 770 00:19:57,497 --> 00:19:59,265 - Yeah. 771 00:19:59,265 --> 00:20:00,734 - What stories they tell. 772 00:20:00,734 --> 00:20:03,937 - Cell phone secrets 773 00:20:00,734 --> 00:20:03,937 reveal a loved one 774 00:20:03,937 --> 00:20:06,373 with no love lost 775 00:20:03,937 --> 00:20:06,373 for Randy. 776 00:20:06,373 --> 00:20:07,841 - The phone records 777 00:20:06,373 --> 00:20:07,841 were confirming 778 00:20:07,841 --> 00:20:10,877 that there was a seething 779 00:20:07,841 --> 00:20:10,877 hatred between the two. 780 00:20:10,977 --> 00:20:24,491 Welcome back to "Dateline: 781 00:20:10,977 --> 00:20:24,491 Secrets Uncovered." 782 00:20:24,858 --> 00:20:26,920 I'm Craig Melvin. 783 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,762 Randy Baker's killer 784 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,762 was still at large, 785 00:20:28,762 --> 00:20:31,310 but police had recovered 786 00:20:31,310 --> 00:20:34,334 the beloved dad's 787 00:20:31,310 --> 00:20:34,334 missing Pontiac. 788 00:20:34,334 --> 00:20:36,469 After questioning 789 00:20:34,334 --> 00:20:36,469 a parade of criminals 790 00:20:36,469 --> 00:20:38,872 connected to the vehicle, 791 00:20:36,469 --> 00:20:38,872 detectives learned 792 00:20:38,872 --> 00:20:41,274 the person behind 793 00:20:38,872 --> 00:20:41,274 the car's disappearance 794 00:20:41,274 --> 00:20:44,344 was someone 795 00:20:41,274 --> 00:20:44,344 close to Randy. 796 00:20:44,344 --> 00:20:46,880 They were bound by blood, 797 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,182 almost all of it bad. 798 00:20:49,182 --> 00:20:51,251 Once again, 799 00:20:49,182 --> 00:20:51,251 here's Keith Morrison 800 00:20:51,251 --> 00:20:53,687 with "The Secret Keppers." 801 00:20:55,555 --> 00:20:57,190 - Families can be 802 00:20:57,190 --> 00:21:00,260 such a fascinating little study, 803 00:20:57,190 --> 00:21:00,260 can't they? 804 00:21:00,260 --> 00:21:03,630 Most are warm, 805 00:21:00,260 --> 00:21:03,630 protective, loving. 806 00:21:03,630 --> 00:21:05,565 But Randy Baker's family? 807 00:21:05,565 --> 00:21:07,600 Well, consider this. 808 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,502 The person who gave 809 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,502 Randy Baker's car 810 00:21:09,502 --> 00:21:11,571 to those criminal 811 00:21:09,502 --> 00:21:11,571 bottom-feeders 812 00:21:11,571 --> 00:21:17,770 was none other than 813 00:21:11,571 --> 00:21:17,770 his big sister, Carol. 814 00:21:17,770 --> 00:21:18,780 - She had received the car 815 00:21:18,780 --> 00:21:20,800 within about 2 hours 816 00:21:18,780 --> 00:21:20,800 of Randy's murder. 817 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:21,748 - She's gotta be involved 818 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:21,748 in this somehow. 819 00:21:21,748 --> 00:21:22,882 - Right. 820 00:21:22,882 --> 00:21:25,919 - How did Carol Baker get 821 00:21:22,882 --> 00:21:25,919 her dead brother's car? 822 00:21:25,919 --> 00:21:28,288 Investigators didn't know, 823 00:21:28,288 --> 00:21:31,558 but they had reached 824 00:21:28,288 --> 00:21:31,558 at least one conclusion. 825 00:21:31,558 --> 00:21:32,859 - Carol's a little simple. 826 00:21:32,859 --> 00:21:34,861 - She had a little trouble 827 00:21:32,859 --> 00:21:34,861 keeping up with things. 828 00:21:34,861 --> 00:21:36,960 - Uh, yeah. 829 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:37,430 She seemed to answer 830 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:37,430 questions fine 831 00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:38,932 but at the same time, 832 00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:38,932 I think at one point 833 00:21:38,932 --> 00:21:39,966 she even said, 834 00:21:38,932 --> 00:21:39,966 "I'm slow." 835 00:21:39,966 --> 00:21:41,868 - Really? 836 00:21:39,966 --> 00:21:41,868 - Yeah. 837 00:21:41,868 --> 00:21:44,637 - And then, there was 838 00:21:41,868 --> 00:21:44,637 something else. 839 00:21:44,637 --> 00:21:45,772 - We were learning 840 00:21:45,772 --> 00:21:48,541 that Randy and Carol's 841 00:21:45,772 --> 00:21:48,541 relationship was-was strained. 842 00:21:48,541 --> 00:21:49,376 - Uh-huh. 843 00:21:49,376 --> 00:21:50,877 - So much so that 844 00:21:49,376 --> 00:21:50,877 they preferred 845 00:21:50,877 --> 00:21:52,212 not to be around 846 00:21:50,877 --> 00:21:52,212 each other. 847 00:21:52,212 --> 00:21:54,781 - Betty said the tension 848 00:21:52,212 --> 00:21:54,781 between Randy and Carol 849 00:21:54,781 --> 00:21:57,717 went way back to 850 00:21:54,781 --> 00:21:57,717 their childhood days. 851 00:21:57,717 --> 00:21:58,685 - And he would talk about 852 00:21:58,685 --> 00:22:01,588 how she secretly loved 853 00:21:58,685 --> 00:22:01,588 being an only child 854 00:22:01,588 --> 00:22:04,570 and once he came, 855 00:22:01,588 --> 00:22:04,570 she, like, hated it. 856 00:22:04,570 --> 00:22:05,191 Was his version. 857 00:22:05,191 --> 00:22:08,610 And she would talk about 858 00:22:05,191 --> 00:22:08,610 how she'd pick on him. 859 00:22:08,610 --> 00:22:09,863 - Not the best 860 00:22:08,610 --> 00:22:09,863 sibling relationship. 861 00:22:09,863 --> 00:22:12,665 - No. Not what I'd want 862 00:22:09,863 --> 00:22:12,665 for my kinds to have. 863 00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:14,567 So, yep. 864 00:22:14,567 --> 00:22:17,700 - Once grown, 865 00:22:14,567 --> 00:22:17,700 Randy went his way. 866 00:22:17,700 --> 00:22:18,738 Carol went hers. 867 00:22:18,738 --> 00:22:23,710 Randy ended up in college. 868 00:22:18,738 --> 00:22:23,710 Carol did odd jobs. 869 00:22:23,710 --> 00:22:25,578 Both married 870 00:22:23,710 --> 00:22:25,578 and started families, 871 00:22:25,578 --> 00:22:27,814 but, said Randy's 872 00:22:25,578 --> 00:22:27,814 first wife Dory, 873 00:22:27,814 --> 00:22:30,817 Carol could never leave 874 00:22:27,814 --> 00:22:30,817 well enough alone. 875 00:22:30,817 --> 00:22:32,686 - She tried to 876 00:22:30,817 --> 00:22:32,686 ruin everything. 877 00:22:32,686 --> 00:22:35,722 She tried to ruin our 878 00:22:32,686 --> 00:22:35,722 relationship from the beginning. 879 00:22:35,722 --> 00:22:38,124 - It worked. 880 00:22:35,722 --> 00:22:38,124 Carol was the one 881 00:22:38,124 --> 00:22:41,628 who introduced Kelly 882 00:22:38,124 --> 00:22:41,628 the hairdresser to Randy. 883 00:22:41,628 --> 00:22:45,131 Betty was just a little kid 884 00:22:41,628 --> 00:22:45,131 when her father married Kelly, 885 00:22:45,131 --> 00:22:48,101 but she was old enough 886 00:22:45,131 --> 00:22:48,101 to see her dad's relationship 887 00:22:48,101 --> 00:22:51,504 with his sister 888 00:22:48,101 --> 00:22:51,504 did not improve. 889 00:22:51,504 --> 00:22:54,974 - It was kind of Kelly and 890 00:22:51,504 --> 00:22:54,974 Carol versus my dad a lot. 891 00:22:54,974 --> 00:22:56,176 - Ah. 892 00:22:54,974 --> 00:22:56,176 - And it became that way 893 00:22:56,176 --> 00:22:59,245 big time once all of us 894 00:22:56,176 --> 00:22:59,245 kids were out of the house. 895 00:22:59,245 --> 00:23:01,715 - That certainly caught 896 00:22:59,245 --> 00:23:01,715 Detective Prill's attention. 897 00:23:01,715 --> 00:23:03,817 Carol 898 00:23:01,715 --> 00:23:03,817 did not like Randy 899 00:23:03,817 --> 00:23:06,386 and Carol 900 00:23:03,817 --> 00:23:06,386 had access to his house. 901 00:23:06,386 --> 00:23:08,540 Who was the last person known 902 00:23:06,386 --> 00:23:08,540 to have been in the house 903 00:23:08,540 --> 00:23:10,523 before the shooting occurred? 904 00:23:08,540 --> 00:23:10,523 - Carol. 905 00:23:10,523 --> 00:23:13,626 - That's right. 906 00:23:10,523 --> 00:23:13,626 Carol told Detective Onderlinde 907 00:23:13,626 --> 00:23:15,695 she'd gone 908 00:23:13,626 --> 00:23:15,695 to the house that night 909 00:23:15,695 --> 00:23:18,231 to do some chores 910 00:23:15,695 --> 00:23:18,231 for Kelly. 911 00:23:18,231 --> 00:23:20,266 - She was, you know, 912 00:23:18,231 --> 00:23:20,266 the last person at the house. 913 00:23:20,266 --> 00:23:22,769 Uh, roughly an hour 914 00:23:20,266 --> 00:23:22,769 before Randy was murdered. 915 00:23:22,769 --> 00:23:25,171 She drew the blinds, 916 00:23:22,769 --> 00:23:25,171 put the dog in the kennel, 917 00:23:25,171 --> 00:23:27,140 and then she left and, um, drove 918 00:23:25,171 --> 00:23:27,140 to an aunt's house 919 00:23:27,140 --> 00:23:29,642 a couple blocks away 920 00:23:27,140 --> 00:23:29,642 and that she was there 921 00:23:29,642 --> 00:23:31,344 for the rest 922 00:23:29,642 --> 00:23:31,344 of the night. 923 00:23:31,344 --> 00:23:34,581 - The hounds had the scent. 924 00:23:31,344 --> 00:23:34,581 Or so they thought. 925 00:23:34,581 --> 00:23:37,617 All they needed 926 00:23:34,581 --> 00:23:37,617 were the granular details, 927 00:23:37,617 --> 00:23:39,850 and that's when 928 00:23:37,617 --> 00:23:39,850 the investigation 929 00:23:39,850 --> 00:23:42,122 took a deep dive into 930 00:23:39,850 --> 00:23:42,122 the greatest keeper of secrets 931 00:23:42,122 --> 00:23:45,792 in the 21st century-- 932 00:23:42,122 --> 00:23:45,792 the cellphone. 933 00:23:45,792 --> 00:23:47,160 - I have 934 00:23:45,792 --> 00:23:47,160 to have those phones. 935 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,795 - You take them away, 936 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,795 my goodness. 937 00:23:48,795 --> 00:23:50,563 - And what's inside. 938 00:23:48,795 --> 00:23:50,563 - Yeah. 939 00:23:50,563 --> 00:23:52,165 - What stories 940 00:23:50,563 --> 00:23:52,165 they tell. 941 00:23:52,165 --> 00:23:55,902 - Detective Prill's specialty 942 00:23:52,165 --> 00:23:55,902 is phone forensics. 943 00:23:55,902 --> 00:23:58,672 Meaning he can coax 944 00:23:55,902 --> 00:23:58,672 those phones to give up 945 00:23:58,672 --> 00:24:02,420 who was calling whom and when 946 00:23:58,672 --> 00:24:02,420 and where they were 947 00:24:02,420 --> 00:24:04,778 and what they said 948 00:24:02,420 --> 00:24:04,778 in text messages. 949 00:24:04,778 --> 00:24:07,313 The detective hunkered 950 00:24:04,778 --> 00:24:07,313 down in his cubicle. 951 00:24:07,313 --> 00:24:08,915 How much time did 952 00:24:07,313 --> 00:24:08,915 you spend in here? 953 00:24:08,915 --> 00:24:11,351 - Somewhere around 954 00:24:08,915 --> 00:24:11,351 12 hours a day, 955 00:24:11,351 --> 00:24:13,319 7 days a week 956 00:24:11,351 --> 00:24:13,319 for a month. 957 00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:15,422 - Go home, eat, sleep, repeat. 958 00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:15,422 - And get back. 959 00:24:15,422 --> 00:24:18,692 - The detective had seen 960 00:24:15,422 --> 00:24:18,692 his share of family spats 961 00:24:18,692 --> 00:24:20,627 and lusty intrigues 962 00:24:18,692 --> 00:24:20,627 over the years, 963 00:24:20,627 --> 00:24:22,962 but he'd never seen anything 964 00:24:20,627 --> 00:24:22,962 quite like the story 965 00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:26,466 told by those cell phones. 966 00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:26,466 That spring and summer? 967 00:24:26,466 --> 00:24:32,272 Kelly and Carol exchanged, well, 968 00:24:26,466 --> 00:24:32,272 roughly 4500 text messages. 969 00:24:32,272 --> 00:24:34,574 An average 970 00:24:32,272 --> 00:24:34,574 of 50 a day. 971 00:24:34,574 --> 00:24:35,775 How close 972 00:24:34,574 --> 00:24:35,775 were these women? 973 00:24:35,775 --> 00:24:38,178 - Well, the 4500 974 00:24:35,775 --> 00:24:38,178 text messages alone is-- 975 00:24:38,178 --> 00:24:40,580 - Yeah. 976 00:24:38,178 --> 00:24:40,580 - Mind-numbing. 977 00:24:40,580 --> 00:24:43,850 But the-the constant, 978 00:24:40,580 --> 00:24:43,850 uh, exchange of "I love yous," 979 00:24:43,850 --> 00:24:45,852 "I love you, sister," 980 00:24:43,850 --> 00:24:45,852 "I love you, sissy," 981 00:24:45,852 --> 00:24:47,654 "I love you 982 00:24:45,852 --> 00:24:47,654 to the moon and back." 983 00:24:47,654 --> 00:24:49,890 - And while that 984 00:24:47,654 --> 00:24:49,890 was going on, 985 00:24:49,890 --> 00:24:52,292 Kelly was also texting 986 00:24:49,890 --> 00:24:52,292 her husband Randy, 987 00:24:52,292 --> 00:24:55,395 who was still recovering 988 00:24:52,292 --> 00:24:55,395 from that open-heart surgery. 989 00:24:55,395 --> 00:24:57,364 No hearts 990 00:24:55,395 --> 00:24:57,364 and flowers there. 991 00:24:57,364 --> 00:24:58,465 - She's saying 992 00:24:57,364 --> 00:24:58,465 "It's been 14 years. 993 00:24:58,465 --> 00:24:59,632 Do you hear me? 994 00:24:58,465 --> 00:24:59,632 14 years. 995 00:24:59,632 --> 00:25:02,402 I don't want any more death, 996 00:24:59,632 --> 00:25:02,402 so I shut you out." 997 00:25:02,402 --> 00:25:04,838 - Wow. 998 00:25:02,402 --> 00:25:04,838 - At 8:48 she sayin' that, 999 00:25:04,838 --> 00:25:07,907 but then she's telling Carol, 1000 00:25:04,838 --> 00:25:07,907 "I love you so much." 1001 00:25:07,907 --> 00:25:09,876 - That was 2 months 1002 00:25:07,907 --> 00:25:09,876 before the murder, 1003 00:25:09,876 --> 00:25:12,912 right about when Kelly 1004 00:25:09,876 --> 00:25:12,912 moved out of the house. 1005 00:25:12,912 --> 00:25:15,749 And through texts, 1006 00:25:12,912 --> 00:25:15,749 Prill could plainly see 1007 00:25:15,749 --> 00:25:19,520 that Randy still had hopes 1008 00:25:15,749 --> 00:25:19,520 of salvaging the marriage. 1009 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,287 - It was difficult 1010 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,287 to read through 1011 00:25:21,287 --> 00:25:23,289 his inner feelings 1012 00:25:21,287 --> 00:25:23,289 for her. 1013 00:25:23,289 --> 00:25:27,527 Um, he didn't want her gone. 1014 00:25:23,289 --> 00:25:27,527 He wanted her home. 1015 00:25:27,527 --> 00:25:30,130 - Right here at his desk, 1016 00:25:27,527 --> 00:25:30,130 Mike Prill was seeing 1017 00:25:30,130 --> 00:25:33,500 what looked to him 1018 00:25:30,130 --> 00:25:33,500 like motive. 1019 00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:35,101 - The phone records 1020 00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:35,101 were-were confirming 1021 00:25:35,101 --> 00:25:36,970 that there 1022 00:25:35,101 --> 00:25:36,970 was a seething hatred 1023 00:25:36,970 --> 00:25:39,606 between the 1024 00:25:36,970 --> 00:25:39,606 two towards Randy. 1025 00:25:39,606 --> 00:25:43,943 - Still, both Kelly and Carol 1026 00:25:39,606 --> 00:25:43,943 had unassailable alibis. 1027 00:25:43,943 --> 00:25:46,479 Carol had been with her aunt 1028 00:25:43,943 --> 00:25:46,479 at the time of the murder. 1029 00:25:46,479 --> 00:25:49,482 Kelly had been miles away 1030 00:25:46,479 --> 00:25:49,482 with her lover. 1031 00:25:49,482 --> 00:25:52,986 But then, Detective Prill 1032 00:25:49,482 --> 00:25:52,986 found this. 1033 00:25:52,986 --> 00:25:57,991 - This message Carol sent 1034 00:25:52,986 --> 00:25:57,991 to Kelly Baker where it said 1035 00:25:57,991 --> 00:26:00,393 "Put it under Sonia," 1036 00:25:57,991 --> 00:26:00,393 and then a phone number. 1037 00:26:00,393 --> 00:26:02,595 - Put it under Sonia? 1038 00:26:00,393 --> 00:26:02,595 - Right. 1039 00:26:02,595 --> 00:26:04,300 - Put what 1040 00:26:02,595 --> 00:26:04,300 under Sonia? 1041 00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:06,700 - Well, about 10 minutes 1042 00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:06,700 after that message, 1043 00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:08,868 Kelly Baker added 1044 00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:08,868 this phone number 1045 00:26:08,868 --> 00:26:11,705 in her contacts 1046 00:26:08,868 --> 00:26:11,705 under the name Sonia. 1047 00:26:11,705 --> 00:26:15,442 - Who in heaven's name 1048 00:26:11,705 --> 00:26:15,442 was Sonia? 1049 00:26:15,442 --> 00:26:19,312 - Coming up. 1050 00:26:15,442 --> 00:26:19,312 An arrest in the case. 1051 00:26:19,312 --> 00:26:22,820 - He just ran into the 1052 00:26:19,312 --> 00:26:22,820 garage, dumped his vest 1053 00:26:22,820 --> 00:26:25,510 that had a .357 revolver 1054 00:26:22,820 --> 00:26:25,510 inside of it, 1055 00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:26,252 and came out 1056 00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:26,252 and surrendered. 1057 00:26:26,252 --> 00:26:27,954 - So, who 1058 00:26:26,252 --> 00:26:27,954 was the killer? 1059 00:26:27,954 --> 00:26:29,823 - I just remember 1060 00:26:27,954 --> 00:26:29,823 him telling me. 1061 00:26:29,823 --> 00:26:31,910 - Feel like falling 1062 00:26:29,823 --> 00:26:31,910 off the bench? 1063 00:26:31,910 --> 00:26:32,258 - Yes. 1064 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:43,803 ** 1065 00:26:44,571 --> 00:26:46,206 - All those hours 1066 00:26:44,571 --> 00:26:46,206 spent poking around 1067 00:26:46,206 --> 00:26:49,642 Kelly and Carol's phones 1068 00:26:46,206 --> 00:26:49,642 were yielding splendid results. 1069 00:26:49,642 --> 00:26:52,912 Like the name Sonia. 1070 00:26:49,642 --> 00:26:52,912 Who was she? 1071 00:26:52,912 --> 00:26:56,916 Well, in fact, 1072 00:26:52,912 --> 00:26:56,916 she was a he. 1073 00:26:56,916 --> 00:27:00,120 And not exactly a guy you'd 1074 00:26:56,916 --> 00:27:00,120 bring home to your mother. 1075 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:03,560 - He had ties 1076 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:03,560 with a white supremacist gang 1077 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,191 prominent in Colorado. 1078 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,191 A prison gang 1079 00:27:05,191 --> 00:27:07,360 by the name 1080 00:27:05,191 --> 00:27:07,360 of 211 Crew. 1081 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:11,765 - He goes by Griz, 1082 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:11,765 but his mother named him Kelly. 1083 00:27:11,765 --> 00:27:14,801 And who 1084 00:27:11,765 --> 00:27:14,801 would his mother be? 1085 00:27:14,801 --> 00:27:17,303 - He's the biological 1086 00:27:14,801 --> 00:27:17,303 son of Carol Baker. 1087 00:27:17,303 --> 00:27:21,274 - Yep, Carol's son 1088 00:27:17,303 --> 00:27:21,274 and Randy's nephew. 1089 00:27:21,274 --> 00:27:23,643 Not a nice guy. 1090 00:27:21,274 --> 00:27:23,643 - No. 1091 00:27:23,643 --> 00:27:25,450 - Griz had a long 1092 00:27:23,643 --> 00:27:25,450 prison stretch 1093 00:27:25,450 --> 00:27:27,313 under his belt 1094 00:27:25,450 --> 00:27:27,313 for attempted murder. 1095 00:27:27,313 --> 00:27:30,950 He also, on close examination, 1096 00:27:27,313 --> 00:27:30,950 had a significant presence 1097 00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:34,521 on that string of text messages 1098 00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:34,521 Prill uncovered. 1099 00:27:34,521 --> 00:27:36,523 - I came 1100 00:27:34,521 --> 00:27:36,523 to realize that Carol 1101 00:27:36,523 --> 00:27:41,394 was forwarding text messages 1102 00:27:36,523 --> 00:27:41,394 from Griz to Kelly Baker. 1103 00:27:41,394 --> 00:27:43,897 - Messages to do what? 1104 00:27:41,394 --> 00:27:43,897 - Well, in the end, I-- 1105 00:27:43,897 --> 00:27:48,468 it was certain to me, 1106 00:27:43,897 --> 00:27:48,468 to murder Randy. 1107 00:27:48,468 --> 00:27:51,638 - Police here in Greeley 1108 00:27:48,468 --> 00:27:51,638 had never seen anything like it. 1109 00:27:51,638 --> 00:27:55,842 A wayward wife, a dimwitted 1110 00:27:51,638 --> 00:27:55,842 sister, a gangbanger nephew? 1111 00:27:55,842 --> 00:28:00,313 Had they all conspired to kill 1112 00:27:55,842 --> 00:28:00,313 their uncle-brother-husband? 1113 00:28:00,313 --> 00:28:02,549 About 5 weeks 1114 00:28:00,313 --> 00:28:02,549 after Randy's murder, 1115 00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:06,519 Police brought Kelly 1116 00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:06,519 back in and she was chatty. 1117 00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:09,222 As she offered up 1118 00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:09,222 more theories about the murder. 1119 00:28:17,464 --> 00:28:20,330 At this point, detectives 1120 00:28:17,464 --> 00:28:20,330 did not show their cards. 1121 00:28:20,330 --> 00:28:21,534 They had a plan. 1122 00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:33,813 Next, they brought 1123 00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:33,813 in Carol, Randy's sister. 1124 00:28:33,813 --> 00:28:35,515 They let her believe 1125 00:28:33,813 --> 00:28:35,515 they had connected 1126 00:28:35,515 --> 00:28:38,351 her son Griz 1127 00:28:35,515 --> 00:28:38,351 to the murder. 1128 00:28:38,351 --> 00:28:39,686 And then, 1129 00:28:38,351 --> 00:28:39,686 they let her think 1130 00:28:39,686 --> 00:28:43,656 that Kelly 1131 00:28:39,686 --> 00:28:43,656 had just sold her out. 1132 00:28:43,656 --> 00:28:47,460 And that's when Carol 1133 00:28:43,656 --> 00:28:47,460 folded like a cheap tent. 1134 00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:51,640 Said the mastermind 1135 00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:51,640 behind the murder was Kelly. 1136 00:28:57,203 --> 00:28:59,305 And after implicating 1137 00:28:57,203 --> 00:28:59,305 her sister-in-law, 1138 00:28:59,305 --> 00:29:02,175 Carol gave up 1139 00:28:59,305 --> 00:29:02,175 her own flesh and blood. 1140 00:29:02,175 --> 00:29:06,246 Her son 1141 00:29:02,175 --> 00:29:06,246 Kelly Raisley, aka Griz. 1142 00:29:22,128 --> 00:29:24,330 They arrested Kelly 1143 00:29:22,128 --> 00:29:24,330 that same day 1144 00:29:24,330 --> 00:29:27,300 and charged her 1145 00:29:24,330 --> 00:29:27,300 with murdering her husband. 1146 00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:31,104 And after, they gave Randy's 1147 00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:31,104 daughter Betty the news. 1148 00:29:31,104 --> 00:29:32,906 - I just remember sitting 1149 00:29:31,104 --> 00:29:32,906 down and him telling me, 1150 00:29:32,906 --> 00:29:37,143 like, "We've arrested, 1151 00:29:32,906 --> 00:29:37,143 um, Kelly and Carol." 1152 00:29:37,143 --> 00:29:38,645 - Feel like falling 1153 00:29:37,143 --> 00:29:38,645 off the bench? 1154 00:29:38,645 --> 00:29:42,816 - Yes. Um, I stared at my phone 1155 00:29:38,645 --> 00:29:42,816 for quite a while, shaking. 1156 00:29:42,816 --> 00:29:47,153 - And Griz? Was holed up 1157 00:29:42,816 --> 00:29:47,153 at a friend's house near Denver. 1158 00:29:47,153 --> 00:29:50,560 - The house was surrounded. 1159 00:29:47,153 --> 00:29:50,560 He just ran into the garage, 1160 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,660 dumped his, uh, vest 1161 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,660 that had a .357 revolver 1162 00:29:53,660 --> 00:29:57,297 inside of it, um, and came out 1163 00:29:53,660 --> 00:29:57,297 and surrendered. 1164 00:29:57,297 --> 00:30:00,533 - Griz stewed in jail 1165 00:29:57,297 --> 00:30:00,533 for 7 months. 1166 00:30:00,533 --> 00:30:04,904 And then, he wrote 1167 00:30:00,533 --> 00:30:04,904 to prosecutor Rob Miller. 1168 00:30:04,904 --> 00:30:08,942 - He wrote a letter exaggerating 1169 00:30:04,904 --> 00:30:08,942 how he committed the crime, 1170 00:30:08,942 --> 00:30:10,443 but ultimately 1171 00:30:08,942 --> 00:30:10,443 admitting to it 1172 00:30:10,443 --> 00:30:13,146 saying, "I've been played 1173 00:30:10,443 --> 00:30:13,146 by these two ladies." 1174 00:30:13,146 --> 00:30:15,615 - Pretty soon, Griz 1175 00:30:13,146 --> 00:30:15,615 was cutting a deal. 1176 00:30:15,615 --> 00:30:18,585 - Arrangements were made 1177 00:30:15,615 --> 00:30:18,585 for Griz to confess 1178 00:30:18,585 --> 00:30:22,922 the entire murder in exchange 1179 00:30:18,585 --> 00:30:22,922 for, uh, the state 1180 00:30:22,922 --> 00:30:25,592 not pursuing 1181 00:30:22,922 --> 00:30:25,592 the death penalty. 1182 00:30:25,592 --> 00:30:27,894 - Griz was specific. 1183 00:30:27,894 --> 00:30:31,664 His mother and Kelly had pushed 1184 00:30:27,894 --> 00:30:31,664 him to do the killing. 1185 00:30:31,664 --> 00:30:34,100 Mom drove him to the scene, 1186 00:30:31,664 --> 00:30:34,100 dropped him off, 1187 00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:37,303 and he shot Randy 1188 00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:37,303 as he walked in the door. 1189 00:30:42,809 --> 00:30:45,578 And to solve the mystery 1190 00:30:42,809 --> 00:30:45,578 posed by the forensics? 1191 00:30:45,578 --> 00:30:48,948 Two guns equal two shooters? 1192 00:30:45,578 --> 00:30:48,948 Nope. 1193 00:30:57,290 --> 00:31:00,393 That's just how he rolls. 1194 00:30:57,290 --> 00:31:00,393 And after the killing, 1195 00:31:00,393 --> 00:31:04,330 he explained, 1196 00:31:00,393 --> 00:31:04,330 he drove off in Randy's Pontiac. 1197 00:31:04,330 --> 00:31:06,332 There was one more 1198 00:31:04,330 --> 00:31:06,332 revelation too. 1199 00:31:06,332 --> 00:31:10,570 Remember Randy's beloved Harley? 1200 00:31:06,332 --> 00:31:10,570 The one he supposedly sold? 1201 00:31:21,414 --> 00:31:23,983 Griz really wanted 1202 00:31:21,414 --> 00:31:23,983 that Harley. 1203 00:31:23,983 --> 00:31:26,920 But he also wanted to get 1204 00:31:23,983 --> 00:31:26,920 something off his chest. 1205 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,890 And that part 1206 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,890 is still hard to figure. 1207 00:31:29,890 --> 00:31:31,658 - It was important to him 1208 00:31:29,890 --> 00:31:31,658 that people knew 1209 00:31:31,658 --> 00:31:33,660 that Randy 1210 00:31:31,658 --> 00:31:33,660 was a great guy. 1211 00:31:33,660 --> 00:31:37,464 - He was, in fact, 1212 00:31:33,660 --> 00:31:37,464 the same nephew who sent Randy 1213 00:31:37,464 --> 00:31:40,500 that nice Father's Day 1214 00:31:37,464 --> 00:31:40,500 text 2 years earlier. 1215 00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:42,135 "Not only have 1216 00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:42,135 you been a role model 1217 00:31:42,135 --> 00:31:44,537 and an inspiration to me, 1218 00:31:42,135 --> 00:31:44,537 but the closest person 1219 00:31:44,537 --> 00:31:47,374 I've ever had 1220 00:31:44,537 --> 00:31:47,374 as a real father figure." 1221 00:31:47,374 --> 00:31:51,845 How did Griz explain the fact 1222 00:31:47,374 --> 00:31:51,845 that he could kill someone 1223 00:31:51,845 --> 00:31:54,481 after he had this 1224 00:31:51,845 --> 00:31:54,481 great relationship with him? 1225 00:31:54,481 --> 00:31:55,949 - He believed 1226 00:31:54,481 --> 00:31:55,949 that Kelly 1227 00:31:55,949 --> 00:31:57,817 and Carol Baker 1228 00:31:55,949 --> 00:31:57,817 had manipulated him. 1229 00:31:57,817 --> 00:32:02,122 Fed him information 1230 00:31:57,817 --> 00:32:02,122 that he now knew was not true. 1231 00:32:02,122 --> 00:32:05,825 That-That Randy was abusive 1232 00:32:02,122 --> 00:32:05,825 to both Carol and Kelly. 1233 00:32:05,825 --> 00:32:07,227 - Police had 1234 00:32:05,825 --> 00:32:07,227 also developed 1235 00:32:07,227 --> 00:32:10,630 a more solid theory 1236 00:32:07,227 --> 00:32:10,630 about motive. 1237 00:32:10,630 --> 00:32:12,632 Kelly, remember, 1238 00:32:10,630 --> 00:32:12,632 had told the police 1239 00:32:12,632 --> 00:32:15,301 the life insurance 1240 00:32:12,632 --> 00:32:15,301 was only about 10,000 dollars. 1241 00:32:15,301 --> 00:32:16,803 As you dug in, 1242 00:32:15,301 --> 00:32:16,803 what'd you find? 1243 00:32:16,803 --> 00:32:18,638 - Uh, we found six policies. 1244 00:32:16,803 --> 00:32:18,638 - What? 1245 00:32:18,638 --> 00:32:21,675 - They totaled 1246 00:32:18,638 --> 00:32:21,675 more than 130,000 dollars. 1247 00:32:21,675 --> 00:32:22,776 - Wow. 1248 00:32:21,675 --> 00:32:22,776 - Right. 1249 00:32:22,776 --> 00:32:25,278 - Who was the beneficiary 1250 00:32:22,776 --> 00:32:25,278 of all these policies? 1251 00:32:25,278 --> 00:32:28,448 - Kelly. 1252 00:32:25,278 --> 00:32:28,448 - The house too, of course. 1253 00:32:28,448 --> 00:32:31,918 At the end of that green 1254 00:32:28,448 --> 00:32:31,918 and quiet cul-de-sac. 1255 00:32:31,918 --> 00:32:34,120 Lots of equity. 1256 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,825 - She was looking at somewhere 1257 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,825 near $400,000 with Randy dead. 1258 00:32:38,825 --> 00:32:44,798 - So, a murder mystery solved? 1259 00:32:38,825 --> 00:32:44,798 Why, no indeed. 1260 00:32:44,798 --> 00:32:50,300 Kelly said she was innocent. 1261 00:32:44,798 --> 00:32:50,300 A victim herself. 1262 00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:52,238 Detective Prill 1263 00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:52,238 didn't buy it. 1264 00:32:52,238 --> 00:32:56,976 - This woman could enter 1265 00:32:52,238 --> 00:32:56,976 a room and whisper lies 1266 00:32:56,976 --> 00:32:59,346 to every ear in there 1267 00:32:56,976 --> 00:32:59,346 and turn everyone 1268 00:32:59,346 --> 00:33:02,415 against everyone 1269 00:32:59,346 --> 00:33:02,415 else but Kelly. 1270 00:33:02,415 --> 00:33:05,618 She would control 1271 00:33:02,415 --> 00:33:05,618 the room with her lies 1272 00:33:05,618 --> 00:33:09,550 and remarkably, 1273 00:33:05,618 --> 00:33:09,550 no one caught onto it. 1274 00:33:09,550 --> 00:33:14,761 - Now, all she had to do 1275 00:33:09,550 --> 00:33:14,761 was work her magic on the jury. 1276 00:33:14,761 --> 00:33:16,696 Coming up. 1277 00:33:16,696 --> 00:33:20,300 The widow Baker 1278 00:33:16,696 --> 00:33:20,300 spins a frightening tale. 1279 00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:22,669 - He slammed his hands as hard 1280 00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:22,669 as he could on the table, 1281 00:33:22,669 --> 00:33:25,710 looked me right 1282 00:33:22,669 --> 00:33:25,710 in the eye and said, 1283 00:33:25,710 --> 00:33:27,674 "I will kill you 1284 00:33:25,710 --> 00:33:27,674 and then I will kill myself." 1285 00:33:27,674 --> 00:33:30,143 - She's a manipulator. 1286 00:33:27,674 --> 00:33:30,143 To her, it was a game. 1287 00:33:30,143 --> 00:33:32,178 - Who would win? 1288 00:33:32,178 --> 00:33:35,482 When "Dateline: 1289 00:33:32,178 --> 00:33:35,482 Secrets Uncovered" continues. 1290 00:33:43,223 --> 00:33:47,227 Welcome back. 1291 00:33:43,223 --> 00:33:47,227 Randy Baker's nephew Griz 1292 00:33:47,227 --> 00:33:49,963 struck a plea deal 1293 00:33:47,227 --> 00:33:49,963 with prosecutors. 1294 00:33:49,963 --> 00:33:51,898 In exchange for dropping 1295 00:33:49,963 --> 00:33:51,898 the death penalty, 1296 00:33:51,898 --> 00:33:55,402 he admitted to killing 1297 00:33:51,898 --> 00:33:55,402 his uncle in a secret plot 1298 00:33:55,402 --> 00:33:59,305 hatched by his mother 1299 00:33:55,402 --> 00:33:59,305 and Randy's wife Kelly. 1300 00:33:59,305 --> 00:34:01,708 Now, Griz was about 1301 00:33:59,305 --> 00:34:01,708 to take the stand 1302 00:34:01,708 --> 00:34:06,913 at Kelly's murder trial, 1303 00:34:01,708 --> 00:34:06,913 but he had a surprise in store. 1304 00:34:06,913 --> 00:34:09,489 Here's Keith Morrison 1305 00:34:06,913 --> 00:34:09,489 with the conclusion 1306 00:34:09,489 --> 00:34:10,717 of "The Secret Keepers." 1307 00:34:10,717 --> 00:34:14,387 ** 1308 00:34:14,387 --> 00:34:17,724 - As the harsh Colorado 1309 00:34:14,387 --> 00:34:17,724 winter melted into spring, 1310 00:34:17,724 --> 00:34:19,920 a curious cast 1311 00:34:17,724 --> 00:34:19,920 of characters 1312 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,620 filed into 1313 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,620 the Weld County Courthouse. 1314 00:34:22,620 --> 00:34:25,431 Here was a family 1315 00:34:22,620 --> 00:34:25,431 turned circular firing squad, 1316 00:34:25,431 --> 00:34:27,867 finger-pointing blame 1317 00:34:25,431 --> 00:34:27,867 for the sordid events 1318 00:34:27,867 --> 00:34:30,270 that ended 1319 00:34:27,867 --> 00:34:30,270 Randy Baker's life. 1320 00:34:30,270 --> 00:34:33,540 - Sometimes, life 1321 00:34:30,270 --> 00:34:33,540 is stranger than fiction. 1322 00:34:33,540 --> 00:34:35,909 - Kelly Baker 1323 00:34:33,540 --> 00:34:35,909 pleaded not guilty. 1324 00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:39,446 Denied she had a thing 1325 00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:39,446 to do with the murder. 1326 00:34:39,446 --> 00:34:42,248 Well, armed with confessions 1327 00:34:39,446 --> 00:34:42,248 and plea deals from Carol Baker 1328 00:34:42,248 --> 00:34:46,485 and her son Griz, Chief District 1329 00:34:42,248 --> 00:34:46,485 Attorney Thea Carrasco 1330 00:34:46,485 --> 00:34:49,822 and ADA Rob Miller aimed 1331 00:34:46,485 --> 00:34:49,822 to prove that, in fact, 1332 00:34:49,822 --> 00:34:53,560 Kelly was the ringleader of this 1333 00:34:49,822 --> 00:34:53,560 gang of deadly relatives. 1334 00:35:06,406 --> 00:35:08,641 A little bit Byzantine 1335 00:35:06,406 --> 00:35:08,641 or something. 1336 00:35:08,641 --> 00:35:11,378 There were some, 1337 00:35:08,641 --> 00:35:11,378 uh, planning at work here. 1338 00:35:11,378 --> 00:35:13,113 - For quite some time. 1339 00:35:13,113 --> 00:35:18,785 - For 3 long months. 1340 00:35:13,113 --> 00:35:18,785 And Plan A was, well, odd. 1341 00:35:18,785 --> 00:35:21,888 Remember those falling 1342 00:35:18,785 --> 00:35:21,888 asleep car accidents? 1343 00:35:21,888 --> 00:35:24,570 The prosecutors 1344 00:35:21,888 --> 00:35:24,570 said Kelly spiked 1345 00:35:24,570 --> 00:35:28,610 Randy's morning smoothies 1346 00:35:24,570 --> 00:35:28,610 with overdoses of his own meds, 1347 00:35:28,610 --> 00:35:30,497 hoping an accident 1348 00:35:28,610 --> 00:35:30,497 would kill him. 1349 00:35:30,497 --> 00:35:32,932 Randy's nephew Griz 1350 00:35:30,497 --> 00:35:32,932 thought that one up. 1351 00:35:43,343 --> 00:35:44,310 When that didn't work, 1352 00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:47,147 Griz finished the job 1353 00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:47,147 with two bullets. 1354 00:35:47,147 --> 00:35:48,515 - Do you swear or affirm 1355 00:35:47,147 --> 00:35:48,515 under penalty of perjury 1356 00:35:48,515 --> 00:35:49,749 that you'lltell the truth, 1357 00:35:48,515 --> 00:35:49,749 the whole truth-- 1358 00:35:49,749 --> 00:35:51,117 - Now, prosecutors 1359 00:35:49,749 --> 00:35:51,117 just needed him to say 1360 00:35:51,117 --> 00:35:54,870 all the same things 1361 00:35:51,117 --> 00:35:54,870 to the jury. 1362 00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:57,624 Fine plan, but listen 1363 00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:57,624 to what happened. 1364 00:35:57,624 --> 00:36:01,561 - Do you recall having 1365 00:35:57,624 --> 00:36:01,561 discussions with, um, your mom 1366 00:36:01,561 --> 00:36:06,633 or Kelly Baker about a plan 1367 00:36:01,561 --> 00:36:06,633 to harm Randy Baker? 1368 00:36:06,633 --> 00:36:08,468 - No, I don't. 1369 00:36:06,633 --> 00:36:08,468 - Okay. 1370 00:36:08,468 --> 00:36:11,538 - Griz was clamming up. 1371 00:36:08,468 --> 00:36:11,538 What was he doing there? 1372 00:36:11,538 --> 00:36:13,807 - He knows the game. 1373 00:36:11,538 --> 00:36:13,807 He knows how prisons work. 1374 00:36:13,807 --> 00:36:17,510 He knew if he, quote unquote, 1375 00:36:13,807 --> 00:36:17,510 snitched that it would be 1376 00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:20,613 a rough, uh, rest 1377 00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:20,613 of his natural life in prison. 1378 00:36:20,613 --> 00:36:24,317 - Over and over, 1379 00:36:20,613 --> 00:36:24,317 Griz played dumb. 1380 00:36:24,317 --> 00:36:26,519 - You got a Harley Davidson 1381 00:36:24,317 --> 00:36:26,519 for this murder, is that right? 1382 00:36:32,759 --> 00:36:35,395 - I had a Harley Davidson, 1383 00:36:32,759 --> 00:36:35,395 correct. 1384 00:36:35,395 --> 00:36:37,263 - The prosecutors 1385 00:36:35,395 --> 00:36:37,263 did what they could. 1386 00:36:37,263 --> 00:36:40,500 They played Griz's confession 1387 00:36:37,263 --> 00:36:40,500 tape for the jury. 1388 00:36:45,305 --> 00:36:48,408 Dear mother was a little 1389 00:36:45,305 --> 00:36:48,408 more talkative 1390 00:36:48,408 --> 00:36:50,543 about how Kelly was 1391 00:36:48,408 --> 00:36:50,543 at the end of her rope 1392 00:36:50,543 --> 00:36:53,613 that summer 1393 00:36:50,543 --> 00:36:53,613 before Randy's murder. 1394 00:36:53,613 --> 00:36:56,316 - We talked about 1395 00:36:53,613 --> 00:36:56,316 how she can't believe 1396 00:36:56,316 --> 00:37:00,253 he's still alive and, you know, 1397 00:36:56,316 --> 00:37:00,253 he's-he's sickly 1398 00:37:00,253 --> 00:37:02,455 and he doesn't wanna 1399 00:37:00,253 --> 00:37:02,455 be here anymore. 1400 00:37:02,455 --> 00:37:04,257 - We got to know 1401 00:37:02,455 --> 00:37:04,257 the real Kelly Baker. 1402 00:37:04,257 --> 00:37:07,270 What became clear to us 1403 00:37:04,257 --> 00:37:07,270 is that she's a manipulator. 1404 00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:09,829 - So, they called 1405 00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:09,829 her a puppet master. 1406 00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:12,532 A liar. 1407 00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:12,532 A killer. 1408 00:37:12,532 --> 00:37:16,136 Question was, 1409 00:37:12,532 --> 00:37:16,136 would the jury believe it? 1410 00:37:16,136 --> 00:37:18,238 Now, the defense 1411 00:37:16,136 --> 00:37:18,238 got its turn. 1412 00:37:18,238 --> 00:37:20,106 And attorney 1413 00:37:18,238 --> 00:37:20,106 Robert Ray turned loose 1414 00:37:20,106 --> 00:37:24,277 his very best counterattack. 1415 00:37:20,106 --> 00:37:24,277 Kelly Baker herself. 1416 00:37:24,277 --> 00:37:25,645 - Kelly Baker 1417 00:37:24,277 --> 00:37:25,645 had to take the stand 1418 00:37:25,645 --> 00:37:27,947 in this case, 1419 00:37:25,645 --> 00:37:27,947 in my-my view. 1420 00:37:27,947 --> 00:37:30,183 - The jury was about to 1421 00:37:27,947 --> 00:37:30,183 get a firsthand look 1422 00:37:30,183 --> 00:37:35,121 at a different Kelly Baker. 1423 00:37:30,183 --> 00:37:35,121 Demure. Kind. Long-suffering. 1424 00:37:35,121 --> 00:37:39,893 Hers was a very different 1425 00:37:35,121 --> 00:37:39,893 story about herself, 1426 00:37:39,893 --> 00:37:44,464 not as a killer, 1427 00:37:39,893 --> 00:37:44,464 but as a patient caretaker. 1428 00:37:44,464 --> 00:37:47,600 She talked about Randy 1429 00:37:44,464 --> 00:37:47,600 in the early days. 1430 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,837 - What was your life 1431 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,837 like during that time period? 1432 00:37:50,837 --> 00:37:52,720 - It was great. 1433 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:55,750 I mean, it was 1434 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:55,750 a really good marriage 1435 00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:57,911 with him bein' 1436 00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:57,911 a therapist and a counselor. 1437 00:37:57,911 --> 00:38:01,848 We had our-our small issues 1438 00:37:57,911 --> 00:38:01,848 with blending our-our kids 1439 00:38:01,848 --> 00:38:03,583 and disciplining our kids, 1440 00:38:01,848 --> 00:38:03,583 but other than that, for 1441 00:38:03,583 --> 00:38:09,220 our-ourselves, we-we loved 1442 00:38:03,583 --> 00:38:09,220 each other very much. 1443 00:38:09,220 --> 00:38:12,359 - But then, her life, she said, 1444 00:38:09,220 --> 00:38:12,359 began to resemble 1445 00:38:12,359 --> 00:38:15,695 the sad bits 1446 00:38:12,359 --> 00:38:15,695 of Cinderella. 1447 00:38:15,695 --> 00:38:18,331 But her Randy 1448 00:38:15,695 --> 00:38:18,331 was no Prince Charming. 1449 00:38:18,331 --> 00:38:21,634 - He was somewhat controlling. 1450 00:38:18,331 --> 00:38:21,634 He wanted to tell me 1451 00:38:21,634 --> 00:38:27,340 who I could be with 1452 00:38:21,634 --> 00:38:27,340 and, um, how I could do things. 1453 00:38:27,340 --> 00:38:29,642 Going out to eat 1454 00:38:27,340 --> 00:38:29,642 with somebody else 1455 00:38:29,642 --> 00:38:32,812 or movie night 1456 00:38:29,642 --> 00:38:32,812 or just have the girls over. 1457 00:38:32,812 --> 00:38:35,810 I was never allowed 1458 00:38:32,812 --> 00:38:35,810 to do anything like that. 1459 00:38:35,810 --> 00:38:37,851 - Was there ever any violence 1460 00:38:35,810 --> 00:38:37,851 in your marriage? 1461 00:38:37,851 --> 00:38:42,122 - There was a small amount, yes. 1462 00:38:37,851 --> 00:38:42,122 - What kind of violence? 1463 00:38:42,122 --> 00:38:43,823 - Well, he wanted 1464 00:38:42,122 --> 00:38:43,823 to physically stop me 1465 00:38:43,823 --> 00:38:46,559 from leaving if we were 1466 00:38:43,823 --> 00:38:46,559 having an argument. 1467 00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:49,295 - And that 1468 00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:49,295 summer of 2017, 1469 00:38:49,295 --> 00:38:52,499 Kelly said, 1470 00:38:49,295 --> 00:38:52,499 she just needed a change. 1471 00:38:52,499 --> 00:38:54,801 But when she talked 1472 00:38:52,499 --> 00:38:54,801 to Randy about it? 1473 00:38:54,801 --> 00:38:56,336 - He slammed his hands 1474 00:38:54,801 --> 00:38:56,336 as hard as he could 1475 00:38:56,336 --> 00:38:58,471 on the table, 1476 00:38:56,336 --> 00:38:58,471 scared the crap out of me, 1477 00:38:58,471 --> 00:39:01,307 looked me right in the eye 1478 00:38:58,471 --> 00:39:01,307 and said, "I will kill you 1479 00:39:01,307 --> 00:39:05,345 and then I will kill myself 1480 00:39:01,307 --> 00:39:05,345 because I have nothing to lose." 1481 00:39:05,345 --> 00:39:07,547 - So, with her good friend 1482 00:39:05,345 --> 00:39:07,547 Carol at her side, 1483 00:39:07,547 --> 00:39:10,750 Kelly fled. 1484 00:39:07,547 --> 00:39:10,750 She was moving on. 1485 00:39:10,750 --> 00:39:13,586 But that decision 1486 00:39:10,750 --> 00:39:13,586 weighed on her. 1487 00:39:13,586 --> 00:39:15,210 - I'm still feeling 1488 00:39:13,586 --> 00:39:15,210 lost, you know? 1489 00:39:15,210 --> 00:39:18,458 Am I doing the right thing? 1490 00:39:15,210 --> 00:39:18,458 Am I makin' the right decision? 1491 00:39:18,458 --> 00:39:21,940 - And despite her plan 1492 00:39:18,458 --> 00:39:21,940 for a new life, she insisted, 1493 00:39:21,940 --> 00:39:26,266 she swore she loved Randy 1494 00:39:21,940 --> 00:39:26,266 and she did not kill him. 1495 00:39:26,266 --> 00:39:29,369 - She didn't know anything 1496 00:39:26,266 --> 00:39:29,369 about the planned murder. 1497 00:39:29,369 --> 00:39:32,505 Kelly Baker just found 1498 00:39:29,369 --> 00:39:32,505 the body that morning 1499 00:39:32,505 --> 00:39:34,808 when she came 1500 00:39:32,505 --> 00:39:34,808 to the house. 1501 00:39:34,808 --> 00:39:36,776 - And really, 1502 00:39:34,808 --> 00:39:36,776 what physical evidence 1503 00:39:36,776 --> 00:39:42,482 did the prosecutors have? 1504 00:39:36,776 --> 00:39:42,482 Well, one little something. 1505 00:39:42,482 --> 00:39:47,520 A killer's mistake. 1506 00:39:42,482 --> 00:39:47,520 An excess of impatient greed. 1507 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:52,125 Yeah, so the-the check. 1508 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:52,125 - The $420 check 1509 00:39:52,125 --> 00:39:55,495 was a huge piece 1510 00:39:52,125 --> 00:39:55,495 of evidence in the case. 1511 00:39:55,495 --> 00:39:57,964 - Here was their proof, 1512 00:39:55,495 --> 00:39:57,964 said the prosecutors. 1513 00:39:57,964 --> 00:40:01,100 And you didn't need to believe 1514 00:39:57,964 --> 00:40:01,100 Carol or Griz for this one. 1515 00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:04,504 Just follow the money 1516 00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:04,504 and pay attention. 1517 00:40:04,504 --> 00:40:06,773 - There were two text 1518 00:40:04,504 --> 00:40:06,773 messages from Randy 1519 00:40:06,773 --> 00:40:08,241 where he told her 1520 00:40:06,773 --> 00:40:08,241 that he was coming home 1521 00:40:08,241 --> 00:40:09,676 with the 420-dollar check. 1522 00:40:09,676 --> 00:40:11,211 - That's right. 1523 00:40:11,211 --> 00:40:14,948 The day he was murdered, Randy 1524 00:40:11,211 --> 00:40:14,948 told Kelly he'd have the check 1525 00:40:14,948 --> 00:40:19,619 in his wallet, $420, 1526 00:40:14,948 --> 00:40:19,619 when he got home. 1527 00:40:19,619 --> 00:40:22,689 But remember, he left 1528 00:40:19,619 --> 00:40:22,689 his wallet in the car. 1529 00:40:22,689 --> 00:40:25,792 And then, Griz killed 1530 00:40:22,689 --> 00:40:25,792 Randy and took the car. 1531 00:40:25,792 --> 00:40:28,561 Drove away with the wallet 1532 00:40:25,792 --> 00:40:28,561 and the check. 1533 00:40:28,561 --> 00:40:31,231 - At 3:46 in the afternoon 1534 00:40:28,561 --> 00:40:31,231 on August 16th, 1535 00:40:31,231 --> 00:40:34,501 the same day that Kelly Baker 1536 00:40:31,231 --> 00:40:34,501 found Randy's body, 1537 00:40:34,501 --> 00:40:37,170 she cashed this 1538 00:40:34,501 --> 00:40:37,170 $420 check. 1539 00:40:37,170 --> 00:40:40,807 - So, how did Kelly 1540 00:40:37,170 --> 00:40:40,807 get that check? 1541 00:40:40,807 --> 00:40:43,476 In her final moments 1542 00:40:40,807 --> 00:40:43,476 of cross examination, Carrasco 1543 00:40:43,476 --> 00:40:47,647 used Kelly herself to lay out 1544 00:40:43,476 --> 00:40:47,647 the prosecution's theory. 1545 00:40:47,647 --> 00:40:49,249 - That means 1546 00:40:47,647 --> 00:40:49,249 that you deposited a check 1547 00:40:49,249 --> 00:40:51,918 from a dead man's wallet, right? 1548 00:40:49,249 --> 00:40:51,918 - Correct. 1549 00:40:51,918 --> 00:40:54,254 - A wallet 1550 00:40:51,918 --> 00:40:54,254 that was missing, right? 1551 00:40:54,254 --> 00:40:56,356 - Right. 1552 00:40:54,254 --> 00:40:56,356 - From a car that was stolen. 1553 00:40:56,356 --> 00:40:58,224 - Correct. 1554 00:40:56,356 --> 00:40:58,224 - Stolen by a killer. 1555 00:40:58,224 --> 00:40:59,693 - Right. 1556 00:40:58,224 --> 00:40:59,693 - Who shot your husband. 1557 00:40:59,693 --> 00:41:01,194 - Correct. 1558 00:40:59,693 --> 00:41:01,194 - In a murder you claim you had 1559 00:41:01,194 --> 00:41:03,463 absolutely nothing to do with. 1560 00:41:01,194 --> 00:41:03,463 - Right. 1561 00:41:03,463 --> 00:41:05,965 - I'm done 1562 00:41:03,463 --> 00:41:05,965 with this witness, judge. 1563 00:41:05,965 --> 00:41:07,534 - Almost like you 1564 00:41:05,965 --> 00:41:07,534 were disgusted. 1565 00:41:07,534 --> 00:41:09,569 - I was and I think the 1566 00:41:07,534 --> 00:41:09,569 jury was at that point. 1567 00:41:09,569 --> 00:41:11,705 Because to her, 1568 00:41:09,569 --> 00:41:11,705 it was a game. 1569 00:41:11,705 --> 00:41:15,975 - And when the game 1570 00:41:11,705 --> 00:41:15,975 was over, Kelly lost. 1571 00:41:15,975 --> 00:41:18,511 - We, the Jury, find 1572 00:41:15,975 --> 00:41:18,511 the Defendant, Kelly Baker, 1573 00:41:18,511 --> 00:41:21,848 guilty of murder 1574 00:41:18,511 --> 00:41:21,848 in the first degree. 1575 00:41:21,848 --> 00:41:24,451 - Guilty. 1576 00:41:21,848 --> 00:41:24,451 Kelly was sentenced 1577 00:41:24,451 --> 00:41:28,188 to life in prison without 1578 00:41:24,451 --> 00:41:28,188 the possibility of parole. 1579 00:41:28,188 --> 00:41:30,590 She's appealing 1580 00:41:28,188 --> 00:41:30,590 her conviction. 1581 00:41:30,590 --> 00:41:32,926 Despite 1582 00:41:30,590 --> 00:41:32,926 his witness amnesia, 1583 00:41:32,926 --> 00:41:35,595 Griz got exactly 1584 00:41:32,926 --> 00:41:35,595 the same sentence. 1585 00:41:35,595 --> 00:41:38,498 Carol Baker 1586 00:41:35,595 --> 00:41:38,498 got 30 years. 1587 00:41:38,498 --> 00:41:42,402 At sentencing, 1588 00:41:38,498 --> 00:41:42,402 Betty Winick brought to court 1589 00:41:42,402 --> 00:41:46,673 the namesake Randy Baker 1590 00:41:42,402 --> 00:41:46,673 never got to meet. 1591 00:41:46,673 --> 00:41:49,609 - This is Randall James. 1592 00:41:49,609 --> 00:41:52,445 - Betty clings 1593 00:41:49,609 --> 00:41:52,445 to her new baby Randy, 1594 00:41:52,445 --> 00:41:54,681 her daughters, 1595 00:41:52,445 --> 00:41:54,681 and her husband. 1596 00:41:54,681 --> 00:41:58,651 But it's hard, 1597 00:41:54,681 --> 00:41:58,651 she said, missing her dad. 1598 00:41:58,651 --> 00:42:00,530 - This situation 1599 00:41:58,651 --> 00:42:00,530 has made me feel 1600 00:42:00,530 --> 00:42:03,390 like I'm not in control 1601 00:42:00,530 --> 00:42:03,390 of anything in my life 1602 00:42:03,390 --> 00:42:05,525 and the one person 1603 00:42:03,390 --> 00:42:05,525 who made me feel 1604 00:42:05,525 --> 00:42:08,294 like I could be in control 1605 00:42:05,525 --> 00:42:08,294 of it was him. 1606 00:42:08,294 --> 00:42:13,660 And I can't call him to 1607 00:42:08,294 --> 00:42:13,660 see if I'm handling this 1608 00:42:13,660 --> 00:42:15,969 the right way or-- 1609 00:42:13,660 --> 00:42:15,969 - Although, I must tell you, 1610 00:42:15,969 --> 00:42:18,838 as we're sitting 1611 00:42:15,969 --> 00:42:18,838 here talking, 1612 00:42:18,838 --> 00:42:23,777 you've been calling on him 1613 00:42:18,838 --> 00:42:23,777 again and again. 1614 00:42:23,777 --> 00:42:29,249 - I like 1615 00:42:23,777 --> 00:42:29,249 to think that. 1616 00:42:29,249 --> 00:42:31,484 - And in the end, 1617 00:42:29,249 --> 00:42:31,484 for all her smiles 1618 00:42:31,484 --> 00:42:34,721 and boundless good manners, 1619 00:42:31,484 --> 00:42:34,721 Randy Baker's daughter 1620 00:42:34,721 --> 00:42:39,920 is just as tough as he was. 1621 00:42:34,721 --> 00:42:39,920 Maybe tougher. 1622 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,940 Maybe she just 1623 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,940 doesn't know it yet. 1624 00:42:45,980 --> 00:42:48,501 - That's all for this edition of 1625 00:42:45,980 --> 00:42:48,501 "Dateline: Secrets Uncovered." 1626 00:42:48,501 --> 00:42:51,271 I'm Craig Melvin. 1627 00:42:48,501 --> 00:42:51,271 Thank you for watching.