1 00:00:07,340 --> 00:00:11,211 - I'm Craig Melvin, and this is 2 00:00:07,340 --> 00:00:11,211 "Dateline: Secrets Uncovered." 3 00:00:12,145 --> 00:00:15,915 - This is the entrance 4 00:00:12,145 --> 00:00:15,915 to the park 5 00:00:15,915 --> 00:00:18,418 where Richard was killed. 6 00:00:18,418 --> 00:00:20,200 The gunman lay in wait 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,189 in this secluded, dark place 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,189 at night. 9 00:00:23,189 --> 00:00:25,225 - One way or another, 10 00:00:23,189 --> 00:00:25,225 that's an execution. 11 00:00:25,225 --> 00:00:26,226 - Absolutely. 12 00:00:26,226 --> 00:00:28,428 - They were 13 00:00:26,226 --> 00:00:28,428 a busy married couple 14 00:00:28,428 --> 00:00:32,332 meeting up for a romantic 15 00:00:28,428 --> 00:00:32,332 Valentine's night rendezvous, 16 00:00:32,332 --> 00:00:35,101 but, that night, 17 00:00:32,332 --> 00:00:35,101 someone had other plans. 18 00:00:39,500 --> 00:00:42,275 - Before she even arrived, 19 00:00:39,500 --> 00:00:42,275 her husband was dead. 20 00:00:42,275 --> 00:00:44,770 - I could see him 21 00:00:42,275 --> 00:00:44,770 laying on the ground. 22 00:00:44,770 --> 00:00:46,780 - I couldn't think of a soul 23 00:00:44,770 --> 00:00:46,780 that would wanna hurt the man. 24 00:00:46,780 --> 00:00:49,683 - Then someone 25 00:00:46,780 --> 00:00:49,683 let a secret slip. 26 00:00:49,683 --> 00:00:52,619 Soon, police were questioning 27 00:00:49,683 --> 00:00:52,619 a suspect with a motive 28 00:00:52,619 --> 00:00:54,754 who had suddenly 29 00:00:52,619 --> 00:00:54,754 changed his looks. 30 00:00:54,754 --> 00:00:56,189 - And, in fact, 31 00:00:54,754 --> 00:00:56,189 when he showed up at work 32 00:00:56,189 --> 00:00:58,224 that morning, 33 00:00:56,189 --> 00:00:58,224 he was beardless. 34 00:00:58,224 --> 00:01:02,362 - There was only one problem. 35 00:00:58,224 --> 00:01:02,362 He had a rock solid alibi. 36 00:01:02,362 --> 00:01:04,897 - Where did that leave you? 37 00:01:02,362 --> 00:01:04,897 - Worried about my case. 38 00:01:04,897 --> 00:01:08,368 - That's when the phone rang-- 39 00:01:04,897 --> 00:01:08,368 a tip, a tire track, 40 00:01:08,368 --> 00:01:12,639 and a case one detective 41 00:01:08,368 --> 00:01:12,639 will never forget. 42 00:01:12,639 --> 00:01:14,441 - It was a shot in the dark, 43 00:01:12,639 --> 00:01:14,441 but I took it. 44 00:01:14,441 --> 00:01:22,582 ** 45 00:01:22,582 --> 00:01:26,453 - Hello, and welcome to 46 00:01:22,582 --> 00:01:26,453 "Dateline: Secrets Uncovered." 47 00:01:26,453 --> 00:01:28,388 It was Valentine's Day. 48 00:01:28,388 --> 00:01:31,825 Richard and Stacey Schoeck 49 00:01:28,388 --> 00:01:31,825 planned to celebrate 50 00:01:31,825 --> 00:01:34,794 with a secret rendezvous 51 00:01:31,825 --> 00:01:34,794 at a secluded spot, 52 00:01:34,794 --> 00:01:38,798 but their evening of romance 53 00:01:34,794 --> 00:01:38,798 quickly turned terrifying. 54 00:01:38,798 --> 00:01:42,102 Now, one was dead, 55 00:01:38,798 --> 00:01:42,102 and police would soon discover 56 00:01:42,102 --> 00:01:46,206 that their meet-up 57 00:01:42,102 --> 00:01:46,206 was not the only secret 58 00:01:46,206 --> 00:01:48,341 in this couple's lives. 59 00:01:48,341 --> 00:01:51,911 Here's Keith Morrison 60 00:01:48,341 --> 00:01:51,911 with "A Perfect Spot." 61 00:01:51,911 --> 00:01:55,882 ** 62 00:01:55,882 --> 00:02:00,186 - A winter's night 63 00:01:55,882 --> 00:02:00,186 in a southern forest, 64 00:02:00,186 --> 00:02:02,288 the ink black darkness 65 00:02:00,186 --> 00:02:02,288 parted briefly 66 00:02:02,288 --> 00:02:05,291 through their headlights 67 00:02:05,291 --> 00:02:07,594 and closed around them 68 00:02:05,291 --> 00:02:07,594 like a shroud 69 00:02:07,594 --> 00:02:09,128 as they made their way 70 00:02:07,594 --> 00:02:09,128 in separate cars 71 00:02:09,128 --> 00:02:11,498 through the foggy overcast. 72 00:02:11,498 --> 00:02:15,101 And then, here it is, 73 00:02:11,498 --> 00:02:15,101 the ragged clearing, 74 00:02:15,101 --> 00:02:16,970 the muddy patch 75 00:02:15,101 --> 00:02:16,970 of sand and dirt, 76 00:02:16,970 --> 00:02:19,172 here away 77 00:02:16,970 --> 00:02:19,172 from the whole world. 78 00:02:19,172 --> 00:02:22,108 What a place for 79 00:02:19,172 --> 00:02:22,108 their Valentine's tryst, 80 00:02:22,108 --> 00:02:24,244 as if they could see without 81 00:02:22,108 --> 00:02:24,244 the artificial light 82 00:02:24,244 --> 00:02:28,810 so much as a hand 83 00:02:24,244 --> 00:02:28,810 in front of their faces 84 00:02:28,810 --> 00:02:32,819 or the fate lurking out there 85 00:02:28,810 --> 00:02:32,819 in the dark, waiting. 86 00:02:36,856 --> 00:02:39,859 But, what a way to begin 87 00:02:36,856 --> 00:02:39,859 a love story. 88 00:02:39,859 --> 00:02:42,728 Better, probably, 89 00:02:39,859 --> 00:02:42,728 the hot air balloons 90 00:02:42,728 --> 00:02:45,932 the man so loved 91 00:02:45,932 --> 00:02:48,702 and the motorcycles 92 00:02:45,932 --> 00:02:48,702 on which together in daylight 93 00:02:48,702 --> 00:02:51,137 they discovered 94 00:02:48,702 --> 00:02:51,137 their own special place, 95 00:02:51,137 --> 00:02:52,505 the remote forest clearing 96 00:02:52,505 --> 00:02:55,408 in a place called 97 00:02:52,505 --> 00:02:55,408 Belton Bridge Park. 98 00:02:55,408 --> 00:02:57,977 Though park 99 00:02:55,408 --> 00:02:57,977 is much too grand a word 100 00:02:57,977 --> 00:02:59,120 for their little pullout 101 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,814 beside the 102 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,814 Chattahoochee River 103 00:03:00,814 --> 00:03:02,482 north of 104 00:03:00,814 --> 00:03:02,482 Atlanta, Georgia. 105 00:03:02,482 --> 00:03:04,551 - I knew them both 106 00:03:02,482 --> 00:03:04,551 very well. 107 00:03:04,551 --> 00:03:07,187 - They were Richard 108 00:03:04,551 --> 00:03:07,187 and Stacey Schoeck, 109 00:03:07,187 --> 00:03:10,256 and it was another love, 110 00:03:07,187 --> 00:03:10,256 their love of scouting, 111 00:03:10,256 --> 00:03:12,625 that won the admiration 112 00:03:10,256 --> 00:03:12,625 of Greg Gogler. 113 00:03:12,625 --> 00:03:13,660 How'd you meet 'em? 114 00:03:13,660 --> 00:03:17,397 - Both of our sons 115 00:03:13,660 --> 00:03:17,397 were Cub Scouts. 116 00:03:17,397 --> 00:03:20,100 - With kids, 117 00:03:17,397 --> 00:03:20,100 boys especially, 118 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:21,334 they were naturals. 119 00:03:21,334 --> 00:03:27,240 - Stacey was a ball of energy, 120 00:03:21,334 --> 00:03:27,240 full of ideas, 121 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,377 would literally 122 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,377 drag us to do things. 123 00:03:30,377 --> 00:03:31,511 - The go-getter. 124 00:03:31,511 --> 00:03:33,246 - The go-getter and we also 125 00:03:31,511 --> 00:03:33,246 jokingly called her 126 00:03:33,246 --> 00:03:35,548 "Mama Spreadsheet." 127 00:03:33,246 --> 00:03:35,548 [laughing] 128 00:03:35,548 --> 00:03:38,351 Because everything 129 00:03:35,548 --> 00:03:38,351 that she did 130 00:03:38,351 --> 00:03:40,520 had to be laid out 131 00:03:38,351 --> 00:03:40,520 in a spreadsheet. 132 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,656 - What a planner, huh? 133 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,656 - She was. 134 00:03:43,656 --> 00:03:46,760 - Scouting is how Bill Fanning 135 00:03:43,656 --> 00:03:46,760 got to know them, too. 136 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,428 - Richard was 137 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,428 a good motivator, 138 00:03:48,428 --> 00:03:51,970 and I saw how much fun 139 00:03:48,428 --> 00:03:51,970 he was having, 140 00:03:51,970 --> 00:03:53,299 and so I kind of asked 141 00:03:51,970 --> 00:03:53,299 if I could tag along 142 00:03:53,299 --> 00:03:55,402 and got involved 143 00:03:53,299 --> 00:03:55,402 with Scouts myself. 144 00:03:55,402 --> 00:03:57,103 - Mm-hmm. 145 00:03:57,103 --> 00:03:59,500 Stacey was a den leader 146 00:03:57,103 --> 00:03:59,500 for the Cub Scout pack. 147 00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:00,306 She pretty good 148 00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:00,306 with the kids, too? 149 00:04:00,306 --> 00:04:02,542 - She was pretty good 150 00:04:00,306 --> 00:04:02,542 with the kids, too. 151 00:04:02,542 --> 00:04:04,310 Yeah, she was. 152 00:04:04,310 --> 00:04:06,513 She and Richard, 153 00:04:04,310 --> 00:04:06,513 they worked well together. 154 00:04:06,513 --> 00:04:09,820 - As they did 155 00:04:06,513 --> 00:04:09,820 with her three sons. 156 00:04:09,820 --> 00:04:11,284 Greg was surprised, 157 00:04:09,820 --> 00:04:11,284 he said, when they told him 158 00:04:11,284 --> 00:04:13,953 that biologically 159 00:04:11,284 --> 00:04:13,953 the kids were Stacey's. 160 00:04:13,953 --> 00:04:18,457 - I just naively thought 161 00:04:13,953 --> 00:04:18,457 that they were his children. 162 00:04:18,457 --> 00:04:19,759 - Because it- 163 00:04:18,457 --> 00:04:19,759 it looked like that. 164 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:21,293 - It looked like that. 165 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:21,293 - In the way he treated them 166 00:04:21,293 --> 00:04:23,563 and they treated him. 167 00:04:21,293 --> 00:04:23,563 - Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 168 00:04:23,563 --> 00:04:25,565 - So, when Richard 169 00:04:23,563 --> 00:04:25,565 officially adopted 170 00:04:25,565 --> 00:04:27,200 the younger two 171 00:04:25,565 --> 00:04:27,200 of the three boys, 172 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,602 cousin Connie 173 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,602 was thrilled. 174 00:04:29,602 --> 00:04:31,504 - My heart melted. 175 00:04:29,602 --> 00:04:31,504 Like, I was just-- 176 00:04:31,504 --> 00:04:33,707 I was like that is, 177 00:04:31,504 --> 00:04:33,707 like, the best thing. 178 00:04:33,707 --> 00:04:35,642 - He wanted 179 00:04:33,707 --> 00:04:35,642 to adopt those kids 180 00:04:35,642 --> 00:04:38,144 because he loved 181 00:04:35,642 --> 00:04:38,144 those children, 182 00:04:38,144 --> 00:04:40,113 and those children 183 00:04:38,144 --> 00:04:40,113 loved him. 184 00:04:40,113 --> 00:04:41,715 - Richard himself 185 00:04:41,715 --> 00:04:43,983 marched to the beat 186 00:04:41,715 --> 00:04:43,983 of his own drum. 187 00:04:43,983 --> 00:04:47,870 - My brother 188 00:04:43,983 --> 00:04:47,870 was always a big kid. 189 00:04:47,870 --> 00:04:48,121 - And, said his sister, 190 00:04:48,121 --> 00:04:51,157 most certainly not a 191 00:04:48,121 --> 00:04:51,157 suit and tie sort of person. 192 00:04:51,157 --> 00:04:53,659 Could not sit down 193 00:04:51,157 --> 00:04:53,659 behind a desk. 194 00:04:53,659 --> 00:04:55,295 - He had to be 195 00:04:53,659 --> 00:04:55,295 out and about. 196 00:04:55,295 --> 00:04:59,990 He was a very good athlete. 197 00:04:59,990 --> 00:05:01,735 - Kind of like a pied piper 198 00:04:59,990 --> 00:05:01,735 to his niece. 199 00:05:01,735 --> 00:05:03,870 - He would 200 00:05:01,735 --> 00:05:03,870 roller skate with us, 201 00:05:03,870 --> 00:05:07,741 or throw a ball with us, 202 00:05:03,870 --> 00:05:07,741 or color with us. 203 00:05:07,741 --> 00:05:08,942 He was our cool uncle. 204 00:05:08,942 --> 00:05:10,777 - No wonder. 205 00:05:08,942 --> 00:05:10,777 How many uncles 206 00:05:10,777 --> 00:05:13,313 take their five-year-old niece 207 00:05:10,777 --> 00:05:13,313 and seven-year-old nephew 208 00:05:13,313 --> 00:05:15,315 for a ride 209 00:05:13,313 --> 00:05:15,315 in a hot air balloon? 210 00:05:15,315 --> 00:05:17,917 - I could barely see 211 00:05:15,315 --> 00:05:17,917 over the edge, 212 00:05:17,917 --> 00:05:19,786 so it was just cool seeing 213 00:05:19,786 --> 00:05:21,788 just skies and clouds 214 00:05:19,786 --> 00:05:21,788 all around you. 215 00:05:23,223 --> 00:05:25,825 - Pam Martin was one of 216 00:05:23,223 --> 00:05:25,825 his balloon buddies. 217 00:05:25,825 --> 00:05:27,600 - People would fight over him 218 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,795 and say, "Can-can I have 219 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,795 Richard today?" 220 00:05:28,795 --> 00:05:31,640 And he was just 221 00:05:28,795 --> 00:05:31,640 the best crewperson, 222 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:32,165 and we just liked 223 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:32,165 being around him 224 00:05:32,165 --> 00:05:36,403 'cause he's just very 225 00:05:32,165 --> 00:05:36,403 eccentric and very funny. 226 00:05:36,403 --> 00:05:38,710 - And Stacey? 227 00:05:36,403 --> 00:05:38,710 - I liked her. 228 00:05:38,710 --> 00:05:39,973 She was friendly. 229 00:05:38,710 --> 00:05:39,973 She was nice. 230 00:05:39,973 --> 00:05:43,877 - A happily blended family 231 00:05:39,973 --> 00:05:43,877 far as anybody could see. 232 00:05:43,877 --> 00:05:45,879 Stacey was primary 233 00:05:43,877 --> 00:05:45,879 breadwinner. 234 00:05:45,879 --> 00:05:48,715 She administered a sizable 235 00:05:45,879 --> 00:05:48,715 medical practice. 236 00:05:48,715 --> 00:05:51,840 Richard was 237 00:05:48,715 --> 00:05:51,840 a maintenance manager 238 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:54,870 but remained the main 239 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:54,870 caregiver for the kids. 240 00:05:54,870 --> 00:05:56,122 And together, 241 00:05:54,870 --> 00:05:56,122 the two of them were-- 242 00:05:56,122 --> 00:05:58,909 well, people noticed. 243 00:05:58,909 --> 00:06:01,940 - They always gave 244 00:05:58,909 --> 00:06:01,940 each other kisses, hugs, 245 00:06:01,940 --> 00:06:04,931 um, so they seemed 246 00:06:01,940 --> 00:06:04,931 wonderful together. 247 00:06:04,931 --> 00:06:06,499 - All of which 248 00:06:04,931 --> 00:06:06,499 may explain why, 249 00:06:06,499 --> 00:06:08,702 on Valentine's night 2010, 250 00:06:08,702 --> 00:06:11,370 Richard and Stacey 251 00:06:08,702 --> 00:06:11,370 decided to meet, 252 00:06:11,370 --> 00:06:12,906 maybe even 253 00:06:11,370 --> 00:06:12,906 make out a little, 254 00:06:12,906 --> 00:06:16,576 at their special place 255 00:06:12,906 --> 00:06:16,576 here in the woods. 256 00:06:16,576 --> 00:06:19,245 To say that what happened 257 00:06:16,576 --> 00:06:19,245 next was shocking 258 00:06:19,245 --> 00:06:21,214 was, of course, 259 00:06:19,245 --> 00:06:21,214 an understatement. 260 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,757 - The voice on the 911 call 261 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,757 was Stacey's. 262 00:06:30,757 --> 00:06:33,626 The victim of whatever 263 00:06:30,757 --> 00:06:33,626 happened here 264 00:06:33,626 --> 00:06:36,529 was her husband, 265 00:06:33,626 --> 00:06:36,529 Richard. 266 00:06:36,529 --> 00:06:39,432 He had arrived 267 00:06:36,529 --> 00:06:39,432 at their rendezvous first, 268 00:06:39,432 --> 00:06:42,736 and when she got there later, 269 00:06:39,432 --> 00:06:42,736 he was lying on his back 270 00:06:42,736 --> 00:06:44,404 on the ground 271 00:06:42,736 --> 00:06:44,404 beside his truck. 272 00:06:58,918 --> 00:07:01,210 - Dan Franklin of the Hall 273 00:06:58,918 --> 00:07:01,210 County Sheriff's Department 274 00:07:01,210 --> 00:07:02,889 got the call, 275 00:07:01,210 --> 00:07:02,889 and so there he was, 276 00:07:02,889 --> 00:07:05,225 Valentine's night, 277 00:07:02,889 --> 00:07:05,225 all but groping 278 00:07:05,225 --> 00:07:07,293 as he drove a dark 279 00:07:05,225 --> 00:07:07,293 and winding road 280 00:07:07,293 --> 00:07:09,863 in search of that 281 00:07:07,293 --> 00:07:09,863 muddy clearing by the river. 282 00:07:09,863 --> 00:07:11,498 - It's in-- it's in 283 00:07:09,863 --> 00:07:11,498 the middle of nowhere, 284 00:07:11,498 --> 00:07:13,566 and so that creates 285 00:07:11,498 --> 00:07:13,566 a-a special kinda dark 286 00:07:13,566 --> 00:07:15,168 that you just can't-- 287 00:07:13,566 --> 00:07:15,168 you can't appreciate 288 00:07:15,168 --> 00:07:18,138 until you're 289 00:07:15,168 --> 00:07:18,138 in the middle of it. 290 00:07:18,138 --> 00:07:21,341 - Detective Franklin 291 00:07:18,138 --> 00:07:21,341 was an experienced man. 292 00:07:21,341 --> 00:07:22,575 And this? 293 00:07:22,575 --> 00:07:24,177 - This was one of 294 00:07:22,575 --> 00:07:24,177 a very few cases 295 00:07:24,177 --> 00:07:27,881 where the more I dug, 296 00:07:24,177 --> 00:07:27,881 the less sense that it made. 297 00:07:27,881 --> 00:07:31,117 - No, nothing made sense 298 00:07:27,881 --> 00:07:31,117 about this. 299 00:07:32,852 --> 00:07:34,554 - Coming up... 300 00:07:34,554 --> 00:07:36,356 Tire tracks in the mud 301 00:07:36,356 --> 00:07:39,592 that belonged to neither 302 00:07:36,356 --> 00:07:39,592 Richard nor Stacey. 303 00:07:39,592 --> 00:07:42,162 - You could see Richard's 304 00:07:39,592 --> 00:07:42,162 impressions pass over those, 305 00:07:42,162 --> 00:07:44,497 and then you could see 306 00:07:42,162 --> 00:07:44,497 those pass back over Richard's. 307 00:07:44,497 --> 00:07:45,865 That let us know 308 00:07:44,497 --> 00:07:45,865 that that vehicle was here 309 00:07:45,865 --> 00:07:47,167 before Richard got here 310 00:07:47,167 --> 00:07:48,935 and then likely left 311 00:07:47,167 --> 00:07:48,935 after he was dead. 312 00:07:48,935 --> 00:07:50,970 - It had to be the killer. 313 00:07:51,710 --> 00:08:01,214 ** 314 00:08:02,315 --> 00:08:06,152 - If there is such a thing 315 00:08:02,315 --> 00:08:06,152 as a perfect spot for murder, 316 00:08:06,152 --> 00:08:08,355 then this just might be it. 317 00:08:08,355 --> 00:08:10,790 Wow, this is remote. 318 00:08:08,355 --> 00:08:10,790 Oh, my God, it's-- 319 00:08:10,790 --> 00:08:12,425 - Yeah, it's-it's 320 00:08:10,790 --> 00:08:12,425 pretty secluded 321 00:08:12,425 --> 00:08:14,600 and, uh-- 322 00:08:12,425 --> 00:08:14,600 - You could-- if you were-- 323 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:15,950 if you didn't know 324 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:15,950 what to look for, 325 00:08:15,895 --> 00:08:17,300 - You would miss it. 326 00:08:15,895 --> 00:08:17,300 Right. 327 00:08:17,300 --> 00:08:19,699 There's just a void 328 00:08:17,300 --> 00:08:19,699 on the side of the road. 329 00:08:19,699 --> 00:08:21,234 It's just a dark void. 330 00:08:21,234 --> 00:08:25,638 - It was going on 11 p.m., 331 00:08:21,234 --> 00:08:25,638 February 14, 2010, 332 00:08:25,638 --> 00:08:28,207 when Detective Franklin 333 00:08:25,638 --> 00:08:28,207 found the place. 334 00:08:28,207 --> 00:08:32,379 - And so, this is the 335 00:08:28,207 --> 00:08:32,379 entrance to the park 336 00:08:32,379 --> 00:08:36,783 where Richard was killed. 337 00:08:36,783 --> 00:08:39,818 - That night, the cops 338 00:08:36,783 --> 00:08:39,818 lit up the crime scene 339 00:08:39,818 --> 00:08:41,821 surrounded by a clearing 340 00:08:39,818 --> 00:08:41,821 of bare soil, 341 00:08:41,821 --> 00:08:43,623 sand, and muddy dirt. 342 00:08:43,623 --> 00:08:45,525 - We got this place lit up 343 00:08:43,623 --> 00:08:45,525 like it's Christmastime, 344 00:08:45,525 --> 00:08:48,728 but, uh, but if these 345 00:08:45,525 --> 00:08:48,728 lights weren't on... 346 00:08:48,728 --> 00:08:50,196 - You can't see your hand 347 00:08:48,728 --> 00:08:50,196 in front of your face. 348 00:08:50,196 --> 00:08:51,297 - And it was like that, 349 00:08:50,196 --> 00:08:51,297 that night. 350 00:08:51,297 --> 00:08:52,365 - Yes, sir, it was. 351 00:08:52,365 --> 00:08:54,367 - We will spare you 352 00:08:52,365 --> 00:08:54,367 the gruesome images 353 00:08:54,367 --> 00:08:58,204 of Richard Schoeck 354 00:08:54,367 --> 00:08:58,204 lying dead beside his truck. 355 00:08:58,204 --> 00:09:00,874 Suffice to say, 356 00:08:58,204 --> 00:09:00,874 he had been shot five times, 357 00:09:00,874 --> 00:09:04,100 three times through his body, 358 00:09:00,874 --> 00:09:04,100 twice in the face. 359 00:09:04,100 --> 00:09:05,110 He lay on his back 360 00:09:05,110 --> 00:09:07,130 near the open door 361 00:09:05,110 --> 00:09:07,130 of his truck. 362 00:09:07,130 --> 00:09:09,820 Sounds like it was probably 363 00:09:07,130 --> 00:09:09,820 a pretty ugly crime scene. 364 00:09:09,820 --> 00:09:11,170 - Yeah, it's-- 365 00:09:09,820 --> 00:09:11,170 - I mean, in-in terms 366 00:09:09,820 --> 00:09:11,170 of what happened to him. 367 00:09:11,170 --> 00:09:12,619 - It was, yeah, it was 368 00:09:11,170 --> 00:09:12,619 particularly gruesome. 369 00:09:12,619 --> 00:09:14,120 - What did it say to you 370 00:09:12,619 --> 00:09:14,120 right away? 371 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,589 - Uh, that there-- 372 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,589 that's overkill, 373 00:09:16,589 --> 00:09:18,692 especially with 374 00:09:16,589 --> 00:09:18,692 the placement of the shots. 375 00:09:18,692 --> 00:09:20,694 - Also, it was pretty clear 376 00:09:18,692 --> 00:09:20,694 from the get-go 377 00:09:20,694 --> 00:09:23,290 that this was not 378 00:09:20,694 --> 00:09:23,290 a robbery. 379 00:09:23,290 --> 00:09:24,564 - The fact that 380 00:09:23,290 --> 00:09:24,564 Richard had his jewelry-- 381 00:09:24,564 --> 00:09:25,732 he had his wedding ring on. 382 00:09:25,732 --> 00:09:28,568 He had a fairly expensive watch 383 00:09:25,732 --> 00:09:28,568 that he still had on. 384 00:09:28,568 --> 00:09:30,770 Uh, there was cash 385 00:09:28,568 --> 00:09:30,770 on the center console 386 00:09:30,770 --> 00:09:32,806 of the truck 387 00:09:30,770 --> 00:09:32,806 that was undisturbed. 388 00:09:32,806 --> 00:09:34,374 Uh, the truck itself 389 00:09:32,806 --> 00:09:34,374 was still here. 390 00:09:34,374 --> 00:09:36,420 I mean, it was 391 00:09:34,374 --> 00:09:36,420 ripe for the taking. 392 00:09:36,420 --> 00:09:38,445 It was running and on, 393 00:09:36,420 --> 00:09:38,445 and the door was open. 394 00:09:38,445 --> 00:09:40,313 - Something else 395 00:09:38,445 --> 00:09:40,313 the detective could infer 396 00:09:40,313 --> 00:09:41,648 from the track 397 00:09:40,313 --> 00:09:41,648 of the bullets 398 00:09:41,648 --> 00:09:43,717 that went through 399 00:09:41,648 --> 00:09:43,717 Richard's body-- 400 00:09:43,717 --> 00:09:46,860 he must have gotten 401 00:09:43,717 --> 00:09:46,860 out of his truck 402 00:09:46,860 --> 00:09:48,321 and approached 403 00:09:46,860 --> 00:09:48,321 whoever shot him. 404 00:09:48,321 --> 00:09:50,357 - When, uh, 405 00:09:48,321 --> 00:09:50,357 Stacey found Richard, 406 00:09:50,357 --> 00:09:51,691 his truck was running. 407 00:09:51,691 --> 00:09:52,959 Uh, the driver's door 408 00:09:51,691 --> 00:09:52,959 was open. 409 00:09:52,959 --> 00:09:54,127 The headlights were on. 410 00:09:54,127 --> 00:09:55,595 So, it appeared that he had 411 00:09:54,127 --> 00:09:55,595 just simply pulled up 412 00:09:55,595 --> 00:09:57,731 and got out of his truck 413 00:09:55,595 --> 00:09:57,731 to approach the person 414 00:09:57,731 --> 00:09:59,632 that shot him, which was 415 00:09:57,731 --> 00:09:59,632 a compelling thing for us. 416 00:09:59,632 --> 00:10:02,369 It was somethin' that- 417 00:09:59,632 --> 00:10:02,369 that really got our attention. 418 00:10:02,369 --> 00:10:05,500 - Who was it? 419 00:10:02,369 --> 00:10:05,500 Who did Richard approach? 420 00:10:05,500 --> 00:10:06,973 Whoever it was, 421 00:10:05,500 --> 00:10:06,973 was long gone 422 00:10:06,973 --> 00:10:09,275 by the time 423 00:10:06,973 --> 00:10:09,275 Stacey arrived. 424 00:10:09,275 --> 00:10:11,778 So, not much to go on, 425 00:10:11,778 --> 00:10:14,414 except when a police 426 00:10:11,778 --> 00:10:14,414 technician trained his lights 427 00:10:14,414 --> 00:10:17,851 on the clearing 428 00:10:14,414 --> 00:10:17,851 from the side just so, 429 00:10:17,851 --> 00:10:21,210 a whole new picture 430 00:10:17,851 --> 00:10:21,210 suddenly emerged, 431 00:10:21,210 --> 00:10:23,656 a story in tire tracks 432 00:10:21,210 --> 00:10:23,656 including a set of tracks 433 00:10:23,656 --> 00:10:25,692 that belonged to 434 00:10:23,656 --> 00:10:25,692 neither Richard's truck, 435 00:10:25,692 --> 00:10:28,610 nor Stacey's SUV. 436 00:10:28,610 --> 00:10:30,630 - You could see Richard's 437 00:10:28,610 --> 00:10:30,630 impressions pass over those, 438 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:32,932 and then you could see those 439 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:32,932 pass back over Richard's. 440 00:10:32,932 --> 00:10:34,668 - Okay. 441 00:10:32,932 --> 00:10:34,668 - And so, that let us know 442 00:10:34,668 --> 00:10:36,736 that that vehicle was here 443 00:10:34,668 --> 00:10:36,736 before Richard got here 444 00:10:36,736 --> 00:10:39,673 and then likely left 445 00:10:36,736 --> 00:10:39,673 after he was dead. 446 00:10:39,673 --> 00:10:41,441 - Had to be the killer... 447 00:10:41,441 --> 00:10:43,777 but how could 448 00:10:41,441 --> 00:10:43,777 common tire tracks 449 00:10:43,777 --> 00:10:47,280 help them find 450 00:10:43,777 --> 00:10:47,280 whoever did this? 451 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,481 Having seen what he could, 452 00:10:48,481 --> 00:10:50,617 Detective Franklin headed back 453 00:10:48,481 --> 00:10:50,617 to the sheriff's station 454 00:10:50,617 --> 00:10:53,853 to meet Stacey 455 00:10:50,617 --> 00:10:53,853 and record her statement. 456 00:10:53,853 --> 00:10:56,222 It was after midnight 457 00:10:53,853 --> 00:10:56,222 by then. 458 00:10:56,222 --> 00:10:59,590 - This feels unreal. 459 00:10:59,590 --> 00:11:00,860 - Stacey explained 460 00:10:59,590 --> 00:11:00,860 it was her weekend 461 00:11:00,860 --> 00:11:02,328 to care for 462 00:11:00,860 --> 00:11:02,328 her grandparents, 463 00:11:02,328 --> 00:11:04,264 and Richard planned 464 00:11:02,328 --> 00:11:04,264 to come by on Sunday, 465 00:11:04,264 --> 00:11:06,633 Valentine's Day, 466 00:11:04,264 --> 00:11:06,633 to cook dinner. 467 00:11:06,633 --> 00:11:08,168 He arrived about 5:30. 468 00:11:08,768 --> 00:11:13,440 - And I had my Valentine stuff 469 00:11:08,768 --> 00:11:13,440 for him sitting on the desk. 470 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,276 When he walked in 471 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,276 the back door, he was like, 472 00:11:16,276 --> 00:11:19,779 "Oh, well, mine are 473 00:11:16,276 --> 00:11:19,779 out in the truck, 474 00:11:19,779 --> 00:11:23,283 "but I thought we would 475 00:11:19,779 --> 00:11:23,283 do that at the park." 476 00:11:23,283 --> 00:11:26,553 - Because they'd already planned 477 00:11:23,283 --> 00:11:26,553 a brief romantic rendezvous 478 00:11:26,553 --> 00:11:28,355 at Belton Bridge Park 479 00:11:26,553 --> 00:11:28,355 on the way home 480 00:11:28,355 --> 00:11:29,889 to see their kids. 481 00:11:29,889 --> 00:11:31,825 - He was like, 482 00:11:29,889 --> 00:11:31,825 "Come meet at the park. 483 00:11:31,825 --> 00:11:34,260 You know, 484 00:11:31,825 --> 00:11:34,260 it's all secluded." 485 00:11:34,260 --> 00:11:35,895 - Right. 486 00:11:34,260 --> 00:11:35,895 - "You know, it'll be-- 487 00:11:35,895 --> 00:11:38,131 "I mean, we'll exchange 488 00:11:35,895 --> 00:11:38,131 our Valentines," 489 00:11:38,131 --> 00:11:40,266 and then he gave me a kiss. 490 00:11:40,266 --> 00:11:41,901 He was like, "And maybe 491 00:11:40,266 --> 00:11:41,901 even make out." 492 00:11:41,901 --> 00:11:44,104 You know, I mean-- 493 00:11:41,901 --> 00:11:44,104 - Day or dark night, 494 00:11:44,104 --> 00:11:47,874 she said, they both knew 495 00:11:44,104 --> 00:11:47,874 the way intimately. 496 00:11:47,874 --> 00:11:53,113 - We'd ridden by that park 497 00:11:47,874 --> 00:11:53,113 gazillions of-- 498 00:11:53,113 --> 00:11:55,615 I-I don't know-- 499 00:11:53,113 --> 00:11:55,615 lots and lots of times. 500 00:11:55,615 --> 00:11:58,952 - So, after dinner, 501 00:11:55,615 --> 00:11:58,952 Richard left for the park first, 502 00:11:58,952 --> 00:12:00,754 she said, and she 503 00:11:58,952 --> 00:12:00,754 followed a bit later 504 00:12:00,754 --> 00:12:04,324 when a night nurse arrived 505 00:12:00,754 --> 00:12:04,324 to look after the grandparents. 506 00:12:04,324 --> 00:12:06,426 - I think I probably 507 00:12:04,324 --> 00:12:06,426 pulled out of the driveway 508 00:12:06,426 --> 00:12:09,295 at about 9:20 or so. 509 00:12:06,426 --> 00:12:09,295 - Okay. 510 00:12:09,295 --> 00:12:12,399 - I called Richard, 511 00:12:09,295 --> 00:12:12,399 and it went to voicemail, 512 00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:17,904 and I didn't know why, 513 00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:17,904 and I didn't leave a message. 514 00:12:17,904 --> 00:12:19,172 I left. 515 00:12:19,172 --> 00:12:21,141 - And when she got there... 516 00:12:21,141 --> 00:12:22,609 - I knew something 517 00:12:21,141 --> 00:12:22,609 was wrong. 518 00:12:22,609 --> 00:12:25,278 I could see-- I saw his 519 00:12:22,609 --> 00:12:25,278 truck immediately, I mean, 520 00:12:25,278 --> 00:12:28,810 'cause the lights were on, 521 00:12:25,278 --> 00:12:28,810 and so I pulled down, 522 00:12:28,810 --> 00:12:30,717 and I headed right towards 523 00:12:28,810 --> 00:12:30,717 his truck, but as soon as I-- 524 00:12:30,717 --> 00:12:34,320 my-- I could see him. 525 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,990 I could see him 526 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,990 laying on the ground. 527 00:12:36,990 --> 00:12:40,894 - Ah, but life is 528 00:12:36,990 --> 00:12:40,894 a complicated business, 529 00:12:40,894 --> 00:12:42,295 as everybody knows. 530 00:12:42,295 --> 00:12:45,732 Even lovers aren't always 531 00:12:42,295 --> 00:12:45,732 straight with each other. 532 00:12:45,732 --> 00:12:48,268 These, however, 533 00:12:45,732 --> 00:12:48,268 were investigators 534 00:12:48,268 --> 00:12:49,669 Stacey was talking to. 535 00:12:49,669 --> 00:12:52,706 She knew they'd ferret out 536 00:12:49,669 --> 00:12:52,706 her secret sooner or later. 537 00:12:52,706 --> 00:12:55,508 So, right away, 538 00:12:52,706 --> 00:12:55,508 she came clean. 539 00:12:55,508 --> 00:12:57,877 - I-I was having-- 540 00:12:55,508 --> 00:12:57,877 have been having an affair 541 00:12:57,877 --> 00:13:01,848 for several, you know, 542 00:12:57,877 --> 00:13:01,848 six, seven months. 543 00:13:01,848 --> 00:13:03,683 [sighs] 544 00:13:01,848 --> 00:13:03,683 - An affair. 545 00:13:03,683 --> 00:13:05,352 His name was Juan Reyes. 546 00:13:05,352 --> 00:13:09,289 He worked in Stacey's office 547 00:13:05,352 --> 00:13:09,289 in a job she had gotten for him. 548 00:13:09,289 --> 00:13:11,257 - You know, 549 00:13:09,289 --> 00:13:11,257 I'm in deep with Juan. 550 00:13:11,257 --> 00:13:12,692 I know that. 551 00:13:11,257 --> 00:13:12,692 - Sure. 552 00:13:12,692 --> 00:13:14,794 - I-I'm telling you. 553 00:13:14,794 --> 00:13:17,597 - Oh, yes, 554 00:13:14,794 --> 00:13:17,597 she certainly was. 555 00:13:17,597 --> 00:13:19,766 Stacey and Richard owned 556 00:13:17,597 --> 00:13:19,766 the house Reyes lived in 557 00:13:19,766 --> 00:13:21,434 with his family. 558 00:13:21,434 --> 00:13:24,704 She met Juan for sex at 559 00:13:21,434 --> 00:13:24,704 an apartment Stacey rented 560 00:13:24,704 --> 00:13:25,872 for the purpose. 561 00:13:25,872 --> 00:13:27,540 She paid for 562 00:13:25,872 --> 00:13:27,540 the truck he drove, 563 00:13:27,540 --> 00:13:30,977 paid his cell phone bills 564 00:13:27,540 --> 00:13:30,977 and, she admitted, 565 00:13:30,977 --> 00:13:33,513 had just taken him 566 00:13:30,977 --> 00:13:33,513 to Vegas 567 00:13:33,513 --> 00:13:36,516 and disguised it 568 00:13:33,513 --> 00:13:36,516 as a work trip. 569 00:13:36,516 --> 00:13:38,251 - Did Juan know that you were 570 00:13:36,516 --> 00:13:38,251 supposed to meet Richard 571 00:13:38,251 --> 00:13:39,652 at the park up here? 572 00:13:39,652 --> 00:13:41,554 - He did. 573 00:13:39,652 --> 00:13:41,554 - How did he know that? 574 00:13:41,554 --> 00:13:43,356 - I mean, I had told-- 575 00:13:41,554 --> 00:13:43,356 I had told him. 576 00:13:43,356 --> 00:13:46,426 I had-- probably 577 00:13:43,356 --> 00:13:46,426 Tuesday night. 578 00:13:46,426 --> 00:13:50,730 Um, it-it was either 579 00:13:46,426 --> 00:13:50,730 Tuesday or Thursday. 580 00:13:50,730 --> 00:13:54,534 - Was Stacey saying Juan 581 00:13:50,730 --> 00:13:54,534 may have been the killer? 582 00:13:54,534 --> 00:13:57,904 - No, I-I-I just-- 583 00:13:54,534 --> 00:13:57,904 I can't im-- 584 00:13:57,904 --> 00:14:00,840 I mean, I've-- I guess 585 00:13:57,904 --> 00:14:00,840 I've seen enough TV 586 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,910 to know that 587 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,910 strange things, 588 00:14:03,910 --> 00:14:06,279 you know, things happen. 589 00:14:06,279 --> 00:14:07,380 - Right. 590 00:14:06,279 --> 00:14:07,380 - But I can't-- 591 00:14:07,380 --> 00:14:09,849 I can't imagine him 592 00:14:07,380 --> 00:14:09,849 doin' that. 593 00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:12,118 - But the detectives 594 00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:12,118 certainly could. 595 00:14:12,118 --> 00:14:14,154 - And so, we start gettin' 596 00:14:12,118 --> 00:14:14,154 some direction, 597 00:14:14,154 --> 00:14:16,289 and we have this unknown 598 00:14:14,154 --> 00:14:16,289 set of impressions, 599 00:14:16,289 --> 00:14:18,158 so we have a third party 600 00:14:16,289 --> 00:14:18,158 at the scene. 601 00:14:18,158 --> 00:14:19,726 So, now we have to ask 602 00:14:18,158 --> 00:14:19,726 ourselves, is it Juan? 603 00:14:19,726 --> 00:14:22,620 'Cause he was looking 604 00:14:19,726 --> 00:14:22,620 really good, at that point. 605 00:14:22,620 --> 00:14:23,530 - Time to go 606 00:14:22,620 --> 00:14:23,530 and have a little chat 607 00:14:23,530 --> 00:14:25,298 with Mr. Juan Reyes, 608 00:14:25,298 --> 00:14:28,335 even if it was 609 00:14:25,298 --> 00:14:28,335 4 o'clock in the morning. 610 00:14:31,371 --> 00:14:33,106 - We knocked for a while. 611 00:14:33,106 --> 00:14:33,907 We knocked on windows. 612 00:14:33,907 --> 00:14:35,108 We walked around the house 613 00:14:35,108 --> 00:14:36,476 and never could get 614 00:14:35,108 --> 00:14:36,476 anybody to the door. 615 00:14:36,476 --> 00:14:40,613 - Where would someone be 616 00:14:36,476 --> 00:14:40,613 at 4 a.m. if not in bed? 617 00:14:40,714 --> 00:14:53,493 - Richard Schoeck, 618 00:14:40,714 --> 00:14:53,493 46 years old, 619 00:14:54,327 --> 00:14:56,963 had been escorted suddenly 620 00:14:54,327 --> 00:14:56,963 from this life 621 00:14:56,963 --> 00:14:59,766 as he waited for his wife 622 00:14:56,963 --> 00:14:59,766 in a secluded Georgia park 623 00:14:59,766 --> 00:15:02,669 on Valentine's Day. 624 00:15:02,669 --> 00:15:04,704 There was an outside chance, 625 00:15:02,669 --> 00:15:04,704 of course, that it would 626 00:15:04,704 --> 00:15:08,775 turn out to be a simple case 627 00:15:04,704 --> 00:15:08,775 of murder by mistaken identity. 628 00:15:08,775 --> 00:15:10,777 Maybe Richard showed up 629 00:15:08,775 --> 00:15:10,777 at the wrong place 630 00:15:10,777 --> 00:15:13,813 at the wrong time, or maybe 631 00:15:10,777 --> 00:15:13,813 he witnessed something 632 00:15:13,813 --> 00:15:16,149 he wasn't supposed to see. 633 00:15:16,149 --> 00:15:18,284 But when Stacey told the 634 00:15:16,149 --> 00:15:18,284 story of her affair 635 00:15:18,284 --> 00:15:20,487 with this guy 636 00:15:18,284 --> 00:15:20,487 named Juan Reyes, 637 00:15:20,487 --> 00:15:22,188 the cops knew they were 638 00:15:20,487 --> 00:15:22,188 listening to a motive 639 00:15:22,188 --> 00:15:23,923 as old as time. 640 00:15:23,923 --> 00:15:26,760 Jealous boyfriend gets 641 00:15:23,923 --> 00:15:26,760 rid of competition. 642 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,630 The cops showed up at 643 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,630 Juan's house that very night. 644 00:15:30,630 --> 00:15:31,531 - We knocked for a while. 645 00:15:31,531 --> 00:15:32,565 Uh, we knocked on windows. 646 00:15:32,565 --> 00:15:33,733 We walked around the house 647 00:15:32,565 --> 00:15:33,733 and never could 648 00:15:33,733 --> 00:15:35,135 get anybody to the door. 649 00:15:35,135 --> 00:15:36,169 - When you say you knocked 650 00:15:35,135 --> 00:15:36,169 at the door, just, 651 00:15:36,169 --> 00:15:37,937 what, politely or-- 652 00:15:36,169 --> 00:15:37,937 - No, no, no. 653 00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:39,720 - Bang, bang, bang, bang. 654 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:40,730 - No, a-a law enforcement 655 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:40,730 banging on the door 656 00:15:40,730 --> 00:15:41,474 and banging on 657 00:15:40,730 --> 00:15:41,474 the side of the house 658 00:15:41,474 --> 00:15:42,776 and that kind of thing. 659 00:15:42,776 --> 00:15:43,777 - Had he fled? 660 00:15:43,777 --> 00:15:45,378 Run away? 661 00:15:45,378 --> 00:15:46,680 Later that morning, 662 00:15:45,378 --> 00:15:46,680 the detectives went 663 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,883 to his workplace to see 664 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,883 if he'd show there. 665 00:15:49,883 --> 00:15:52,919 He did, all right, but... 666 00:15:52,919 --> 00:15:55,880 - His appearance had changed 667 00:15:52,919 --> 00:15:55,880 from the information 668 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,359 that we had gathered, uh, 669 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,359 from, uh, different sources, 670 00:15:59,359 --> 00:16:01,661 uh, that showed 671 00:15:59,359 --> 00:16:01,661 that he had a beard. 672 00:16:01,661 --> 00:16:03,496 - Woodrow Tripp was chief 673 00:16:01,661 --> 00:16:03,496 of detectives at the time 674 00:16:03,496 --> 00:16:05,765 and worked the case 675 00:16:03,496 --> 00:16:05,765 with Franklin. 676 00:16:05,765 --> 00:16:06,866 - And, in fact, 677 00:16:05,765 --> 00:16:06,866 when he showed up at work 678 00:16:06,866 --> 00:16:09,736 that morning, 679 00:16:06,866 --> 00:16:09,736 he was beardless. 680 00:16:09,736 --> 00:16:13,506 - Or at least he'd removed 681 00:16:09,736 --> 00:16:13,506 his formerly full beard 682 00:16:13,506 --> 00:16:19,450 and shrunk it to 683 00:16:13,506 --> 00:16:19,450 an appearance altering goatee. 684 00:16:19,450 --> 00:16:21,348 Now, Juan found himself 685 00:16:19,450 --> 00:16:21,348 at the sheriff's station. 686 00:16:21,348 --> 00:16:23,316 He agreed to talk 687 00:16:21,348 --> 00:16:23,316 without a lawyer. 688 00:16:23,316 --> 00:16:25,585 He sat in 689 00:16:23,316 --> 00:16:25,585 the interrogation room 690 00:16:25,585 --> 00:16:27,687 for more than four hours 691 00:16:25,585 --> 00:16:27,687 with several detectives 692 00:16:27,687 --> 00:16:30,657 having a go at him, 693 00:16:27,687 --> 00:16:30,657 including Franklin and Tripp. 694 00:16:30,657 --> 00:16:33,793 - Now, it's my understanding 695 00:16:30,657 --> 00:16:33,793 that you and Stacey 696 00:16:33,793 --> 00:16:35,428 are romantically involved. 697 00:16:35,428 --> 00:16:36,596 - Yeah, yeah. 698 00:16:35,428 --> 00:16:36,596 - Okay. 699 00:16:36,596 --> 00:16:40,200 - He spilled all of that, 700 00:16:36,596 --> 00:16:40,200 the affair, the love nest, 701 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,203 the extra goodies 702 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,203 Stacey showered on him. 703 00:16:43,203 --> 00:16:46,106 Then they caught him 704 00:16:43,203 --> 00:16:46,106 on something. 705 00:16:46,106 --> 00:16:47,974 Stacey had already 706 00:16:46,106 --> 00:16:47,974 told the detectives 707 00:16:47,974 --> 00:16:50,143 that she informed Juan 708 00:16:47,974 --> 00:16:50,143 on Tuesday 709 00:16:50,143 --> 00:16:54,381 or possibly Thursday about 710 00:16:50,143 --> 00:16:54,381 the plans to meet Richard 711 00:16:54,381 --> 00:16:57,684 that Sunday night 712 00:16:54,381 --> 00:16:57,684 of Valentine's Day. 713 00:16:57,684 --> 00:16:59,519 - When did she 714 00:16:57,684 --> 00:16:59,519 tell you that? 715 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:03,560 - She told me Friday-Friday 716 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:03,560 after work. 717 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,126 - Would you find it odd if 718 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,126 I told you that she's made 719 00:17:06,126 --> 00:17:10,763 a statement that she told 720 00:17:06,126 --> 00:17:10,763 you earlier than Friday? 721 00:17:10,763 --> 00:17:14,339 - Um, no, I wouldn't. 722 00:17:14,339 --> 00:17:15,669 I mean, I remember 723 00:17:14,339 --> 00:17:15,669 the conversation on Friday. 724 00:17:15,669 --> 00:17:18,380 If she mentioned it 725 00:17:15,669 --> 00:17:18,380 before that, I wasn't-- 726 00:17:18,380 --> 00:17:23,410 I wasn't thinking about it 727 00:17:18,380 --> 00:17:23,410 or didn't pay attention to it. 728 00:17:23,410 --> 00:17:27,614 So, there's-- I'm just 729 00:17:23,410 --> 00:17:27,614 forgetful sometimes. 730 00:17:27,614 --> 00:17:31,818 - Was he forgetful, 731 00:17:27,614 --> 00:17:31,818 or was he hiding something? 732 00:17:31,818 --> 00:17:32,786 - Okay. 733 00:17:32,786 --> 00:17:34,120 Well, let me ask you this. 734 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:36,790 Did you have anything to do 735 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:36,790 with what's happened to Richard? 736 00:17:36,790 --> 00:17:38,725 - No. No, I'm not. 737 00:17:36,790 --> 00:17:38,725 No, no, definitely no. 738 00:17:38,725 --> 00:17:41,428 - Do you know who did? 739 00:17:38,725 --> 00:17:41,428 - No, uh-uh. 740 00:17:41,428 --> 00:17:43,530 - And so, they asked him. 741 00:17:43,530 --> 00:17:47,867 Where was he before and after 742 00:17:43,530 --> 00:17:47,867 dinner on Valentine's Day? 743 00:17:47,867 --> 00:17:49,736 - Me and my son 744 00:17:47,867 --> 00:17:49,736 went up to Blockbuster. 745 00:17:49,736 --> 00:17:53,139 We ate dinner about-- 746 00:17:49,736 --> 00:17:53,139 I wanna say about 7:30. 747 00:17:53,139 --> 00:17:55,508 And by 10:30, 748 00:17:53,139 --> 00:17:55,508 I was in bed. 749 00:17:57,811 --> 00:17:59,446 I don't sleep much, 750 00:17:57,811 --> 00:17:59,446 so three or four hours later, 751 00:17:59,446 --> 00:18:02,150 I'm up tossing 752 00:17:59,446 --> 00:18:02,150 and turning. 753 00:18:02,150 --> 00:18:03,350 - Wait a minute. 754 00:18:03,350 --> 00:18:05,585 If he was up 755 00:18:03,350 --> 00:18:05,585 and tossing and turning, 756 00:18:05,585 --> 00:18:09,422 how did he not hear the cops 757 00:18:05,585 --> 00:18:09,422 banging on his door? 758 00:18:09,422 --> 00:18:10,523 - I don't know what 759 00:18:09,422 --> 00:18:10,523 you tell you, man. 760 00:18:10,523 --> 00:18:11,825 I was in my bed. 761 00:18:11,825 --> 00:18:13,260 - We were there. 762 00:18:11,825 --> 00:18:13,260 - Well, I didn't hear you. 763 00:18:13,260 --> 00:18:15,395 - We ran the doorbell, like, 764 00:18:13,260 --> 00:18:15,395 eight or ten times. 765 00:18:15,395 --> 00:18:17,397 - We were for 15 minutes. 766 00:18:15,395 --> 00:18:17,397 - We knocked for 15 minutes. 767 00:18:17,397 --> 00:18:19,165 - All right. 768 00:18:17,397 --> 00:18:19,165 Well, I didn't even-- 769 00:18:19,165 --> 00:18:22,902 we do sleep with fans on, 770 00:18:19,165 --> 00:18:22,902 as I said prior, box fans. 771 00:18:22,902 --> 00:18:26,720 I did take Tylenol PM, 772 00:18:22,902 --> 00:18:26,720 as I stated to you. 773 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,175 - But then you also that 774 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,175 you're a light sleeper. 775 00:18:29,175 --> 00:18:32,145 You tossed and turned last night 776 00:18:29,175 --> 00:18:32,145 and maybe get three, 777 00:18:32,145 --> 00:18:35,480 four hours, 778 00:18:32,145 --> 00:18:35,480 and that's it. 779 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,510 - Right, I was up about 780 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,510 4 o'clock tossing and turning. 781 00:18:38,510 --> 00:18:39,586 I looked at the clock 782 00:18:38,510 --> 00:18:39,586 again at 5. 783 00:18:39,586 --> 00:18:42,222 - We were there. 784 00:18:39,586 --> 00:18:42,222 - I didn't hear you. 785 00:18:42,222 --> 00:18:44,624 I-I don't know 786 00:18:42,222 --> 00:18:44,624 what to tell you. 787 00:18:44,624 --> 00:18:47,193 - Juan Reyes was like 788 00:18:44,624 --> 00:18:47,193 a brick wall about the murder. 789 00:18:47,193 --> 00:18:49,963 Didn't do it. 790 00:18:47,193 --> 00:18:49,963 Didn't know who did. 791 00:18:49,963 --> 00:18:51,464 Really? 792 00:18:51,464 --> 00:18:54,670 The polygraph, said former 793 00:18:51,464 --> 00:18:54,670 Chief of Detectives Tripp, 794 00:18:54,670 --> 00:18:55,902 told a different story. 795 00:18:55,902 --> 00:18:58,505 - The polygraph results 796 00:18:55,902 --> 00:18:58,505 indicated that he was 797 00:18:58,505 --> 00:19:01,541 not telling the truth, 798 00:18:58,505 --> 00:19:01,541 or he was not being truthful 799 00:19:01,541 --> 00:19:07,280 to those relevant questions 800 00:19:01,541 --> 00:19:07,280 posed to him about the homicide. 801 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,450 - Questions such as, 802 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,450 did you shoot Richard Schoeck? 803 00:19:10,450 --> 00:19:13,319 Do you know for sure of anyone 804 00:19:10,450 --> 00:19:13,319 who shot Richard Schoeck? 805 00:19:13,319 --> 00:19:16,322 Were you present when 806 00:19:13,319 --> 00:19:16,322 Richard Schoeck was shot? 807 00:19:16,322 --> 00:19:18,291 - You know, he knows 808 00:19:16,322 --> 00:19:18,291 where Richard is gonna be. 809 00:19:18,291 --> 00:19:20,794 He's in an affair 810 00:19:18,291 --> 00:19:20,794 with Stacey. 811 00:19:20,794 --> 00:19:23,463 He's not at home 812 00:19:20,794 --> 00:19:23,463 at 3, 4 in the morning 813 00:19:23,463 --> 00:19:25,465 the night of the murder. 814 00:19:25,465 --> 00:19:27,667 Uh, he shows up 815 00:19:25,465 --> 00:19:27,667 the next morning-- 816 00:19:27,667 --> 00:19:28,902 altered his appearance. 817 00:19:28,902 --> 00:19:32,839 So, when you put of that 818 00:19:28,902 --> 00:19:32,839 together, uh, yeah, 819 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:34,641 there's a lot 820 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:34,641 of ringing bells there. 821 00:19:36,176 --> 00:19:38,878 - Will Juan's wife 822 00:19:36,176 --> 00:19:38,878 back up his alibi 823 00:19:38,878 --> 00:19:41,681 when she finds out 824 00:19:38,878 --> 00:19:41,681 he was cheating on her? 825 00:19:41,681 --> 00:19:43,490 - If she wanted to throw 826 00:19:41,681 --> 00:19:43,490 him under the bus, 827 00:19:43,490 --> 00:19:44,117 that was the time 828 00:19:43,490 --> 00:19:44,117 to do it. 829 00:19:44,117 --> 00:19:45,385 - She had 830 00:19:44,117 --> 00:19:45,385 a great opportunity. 831 00:19:45,485 --> 00:19:57,797 - Welcome back to 832 00:19:45,485 --> 00:19:57,797 "Dateline: Secrets Uncovered." 833 00:19:58,164 --> 00:19:59,466 I'm Craig Melvin. 834 00:19:59,466 --> 00:20:01,368 After her husband 835 00:19:59,466 --> 00:20:01,368 Richard's murder, 836 00:20:01,368 --> 00:20:05,305 Stacey Schoeck told police 837 00:20:01,368 --> 00:20:05,305 she had been having an affair. 838 00:20:05,305 --> 00:20:08,775 Now, they were taking 839 00:20:05,305 --> 00:20:08,775 a hard look at her boyfriend, 840 00:20:08,775 --> 00:20:13,213 Juan Reyes, but could it 841 00:20:08,775 --> 00:20:13,213 be that simple? 842 00:20:13,213 --> 00:20:16,916 One detective was determined 843 00:20:13,213 --> 00:20:16,916 to explore every clue 844 00:20:16,916 --> 00:20:19,686 and force the secret 845 00:20:16,916 --> 00:20:19,686 behind this crime 846 00:20:19,686 --> 00:20:22,589 to reveal itself. 847 00:20:22,589 --> 00:20:26,493 Here's Keith Morrison 848 00:20:22,589 --> 00:20:26,493 with "A Perfect Spot." 849 00:20:26,493 --> 00:20:30,397 - There can be few things 850 00:20:26,493 --> 00:20:30,397 in life as shocking, 851 00:20:30,397 --> 00:20:33,600 as disorienting 852 00:20:30,397 --> 00:20:33,600 as the sudden death 853 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,803 of a loved one, 854 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,803 especially one so affectionate, 855 00:20:36,803 --> 00:20:39,739 so enduring, 856 00:20:36,803 --> 00:20:39,739 so apparently happy. 857 00:20:39,739 --> 00:20:41,508 And when 858 00:20:39,739 --> 00:20:41,508 the dreadful news came 859 00:20:41,508 --> 00:20:43,877 with the word 860 00:20:41,508 --> 00:20:43,877 "murder" attached... 861 00:20:43,877 --> 00:20:46,646 - I couldn't think of a soul 862 00:20:43,877 --> 00:20:46,646 that would wanna hurt the man. 863 00:20:46,646 --> 00:20:48,140 I couldn't 864 00:20:46,646 --> 00:20:48,140 think of anyone. 865 00:20:48,140 --> 00:20:50,684 - Richard and his 866 00:20:48,140 --> 00:20:50,684 scouting buddy, Bill Fanning, 867 00:20:50,684 --> 00:20:52,686 spent the evening together 868 00:20:50,684 --> 00:20:52,686 the night before 869 00:20:52,686 --> 00:20:55,422 Richard was killed, 870 00:20:52,686 --> 00:20:55,422 and so Bill heard him 871 00:20:55,422 --> 00:20:57,857 get the phone call from 872 00:20:55,422 --> 00:20:57,857 Stacey about their plans 873 00:20:57,857 --> 00:20:59,392 for Valentine's Day. 874 00:20:59,392 --> 00:21:01,628 - And he said, "We're making 875 00:20:59,392 --> 00:21:01,628 plans to get together 876 00:21:01,628 --> 00:21:03,563 "up near her grandma's." 877 00:21:03,563 --> 00:21:05,980 - 'Cause she was staying 878 00:21:03,563 --> 00:21:05,980 up there for the weekend 879 00:21:05,980 --> 00:21:06,332 or something, right, 880 00:21:05,980 --> 00:21:06,332 looking after her? 881 00:21:06,332 --> 00:21:08,680 - That's correct. She was 882 00:21:06,332 --> 00:21:08,680 looking after her grandmother. 883 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:09,936 - So, was he happy 884 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:09,936 about that or-- 885 00:21:09,936 --> 00:21:12,739 - He thought that's great. 886 00:21:12,739 --> 00:21:16,760 - A week later, he was 887 00:21:12,739 --> 00:21:16,760 at Richard's memorial. 888 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,812 Stacey asked Bill 889 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,812 to give the eulogy. 890 00:21:18,812 --> 00:21:21,715 - It was one of the most 891 00:21:18,812 --> 00:21:21,715 difficult things I've ever done, 892 00:21:21,715 --> 00:21:23,883 was to get up 893 00:21:21,715 --> 00:21:23,883 and talk about him. 894 00:21:23,883 --> 00:21:28,588 I-I-I remember looking down 895 00:21:23,883 --> 00:21:28,588 at the honorary pallbearers, 896 00:21:28,588 --> 00:21:29,889 and they were all scouts. 897 00:21:29,889 --> 00:21:34,940 There was not 898 00:21:29,889 --> 00:21:34,940 a dry eye there. 899 00:21:34,940 --> 00:21:36,696 - At the end of the service, 900 00:21:34,940 --> 00:21:36,696 everybody wrote messages 901 00:21:36,696 --> 00:21:39,766 to Richard on balloons 902 00:21:36,696 --> 00:21:39,766 and released them 903 00:21:39,766 --> 00:21:41,201 into the air. 904 00:21:41,201 --> 00:21:44,170 All fond memories 905 00:21:41,201 --> 00:21:44,170 said his nephew, Brian. 906 00:21:44,170 --> 00:21:47,607 - Everybody had their own 907 00:21:44,170 --> 00:21:47,607 personal little story. 908 00:21:47,607 --> 00:21:51,945 Richard helped me tie, you know, 909 00:21:47,607 --> 00:21:51,945 my first knots in my tent. 910 00:21:51,945 --> 00:21:53,947 Richard helped me 911 00:21:51,945 --> 00:21:53,947 build my first fire. 912 00:21:53,947 --> 00:21:57,984 You could tell the Cub Scouts 913 00:21:53,947 --> 00:21:57,984 he was working with, 914 00:21:57,984 --> 00:22:02,122 that he touched 915 00:21:57,984 --> 00:22:02,122 their lives like he had, 916 00:22:02,122 --> 00:22:06,590 um, me and my sisters. 917 00:22:06,590 --> 00:22:08,940 - Meanwhile, the Hall County 918 00:22:06,590 --> 00:22:08,940 Sheriff's Department 919 00:22:08,940 --> 00:22:10,630 was working 920 00:22:08,940 --> 00:22:10,630 on their only lead. 921 00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:11,831 - We were focusing 922 00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:11,831 pretty hard on Juan 923 00:22:11,831 --> 00:22:13,833 in the very beginning. 924 00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:16,336 - Juan Reyes, 925 00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:16,336 the boyfriend. 926 00:22:16,336 --> 00:22:20,106 - Though we thought 927 00:22:16,336 --> 00:22:20,106 that he was the shooter, 928 00:22:20,106 --> 00:22:22,876 at the same time, 929 00:22:20,106 --> 00:22:22,876 um, he deserved 930 00:22:22,876 --> 00:22:26,780 for us to, uh, 931 00:22:22,876 --> 00:22:26,780 verify his story. 932 00:22:26,780 --> 00:22:28,915 - Remember, here's 933 00:22:26,780 --> 00:22:28,915 where Juan said he was 934 00:22:28,915 --> 00:22:31,840 late in the day 935 00:22:28,915 --> 00:22:31,840 February 14th. 936 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,860 - Me and my son went up 937 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,860 to Blockbuster. 938 00:22:33,860 --> 00:22:35,955 We ate dinner about-- 939 00:22:33,860 --> 00:22:35,955 I wanna say about 7:30. 940 00:22:35,955 --> 00:22:38,391 And by 10:30, 941 00:22:35,955 --> 00:22:38,391 I was in bed. 942 00:22:38,391 --> 00:22:40,593 - There were ways 943 00:22:38,391 --> 00:22:40,593 to check, of course. 944 00:22:40,593 --> 00:22:42,929 They talked 945 00:22:40,593 --> 00:22:42,929 to Juan Reyes' wife, 946 00:22:42,929 --> 00:22:44,130 ex-wife actually. 947 00:22:44,130 --> 00:22:46,966 She was living with him 948 00:22:44,130 --> 00:22:46,966 in an effort to reconcile. 949 00:22:46,966 --> 00:22:48,702 - The first thing 950 00:22:46,966 --> 00:22:48,702 that I told her was 951 00:22:48,702 --> 00:22:50,570 that Juan had been having 952 00:22:48,702 --> 00:22:50,570 an affair with Stacey 953 00:22:50,570 --> 00:22:52,138 for quite some time. 954 00:22:52,138 --> 00:22:53,973 Uh, she wasn't happy 955 00:22:52,138 --> 00:22:53,973 about that. 956 00:22:53,973 --> 00:22:57,277 - No, she wasn't, 957 00:22:53,973 --> 00:22:57,277 but listen to this. 958 00:22:57,277 --> 00:23:01,314 The woman scorned 959 00:22:57,277 --> 00:23:01,314 still confirmed his alibi. 960 00:23:01,314 --> 00:23:03,616 - He had gone to 961 00:23:01,314 --> 00:23:03,616 Blockbuster, um, 962 00:23:03,616 --> 00:23:06,686 while I was cooking, 963 00:23:03,616 --> 00:23:06,686 so between 6 and 7. 964 00:23:06,686 --> 00:23:08,421 He had taken-- 965 00:23:06,686 --> 00:23:08,421 6 and 7:30. 966 00:23:08,421 --> 00:23:10,156 Then he came home. 967 00:23:08,421 --> 00:23:10,156 He ate dinner in the room. 968 00:23:10,156 --> 00:23:11,358 I laid down. 969 00:23:10,156 --> 00:23:11,358 We went to bed. 970 00:23:11,358 --> 00:23:12,459 - What time was that? 971 00:23:12,459 --> 00:23:14,594 - Um, I know we were 972 00:23:12,459 --> 00:23:14,594 watching the 10:30 news. 973 00:23:14,594 --> 00:23:15,695 - Okay. 974 00:23:14,594 --> 00:23:15,695 - The 10 o'clock-- 975 00:23:15,695 --> 00:23:16,796 I think it was the 10-- 976 00:23:15,695 --> 00:23:16,796 10 o'clock. 977 00:23:16,796 --> 00:23:17,931 The last time I looked 978 00:23:16,796 --> 00:23:17,931 at the time, 979 00:23:17,931 --> 00:23:19,466 it was, like, 10:37. 980 00:23:19,466 --> 00:23:21,670 - If she wanted to 981 00:23:19,466 --> 00:23:21,670 throw him under the bus, 982 00:23:21,670 --> 00:23:22,680 that was the time 983 00:23:21,670 --> 00:23:22,680 to do it. 984 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:23,690 - She had a great 985 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:23,690 opportunity. 986 00:23:23,690 --> 00:23:24,304 - Yeah. 987 00:23:23,690 --> 00:23:24,304 - She didn't take it. 988 00:23:24,304 --> 00:23:26,106 - So, maybe Juan was 989 00:23:24,304 --> 00:23:26,106 not your guy after all. 990 00:23:26,106 --> 00:23:27,474 - Correct. 991 00:23:27,474 --> 00:23:29,309 - Even though he failed 992 00:23:27,474 --> 00:23:29,309 to answer the door, 993 00:23:29,309 --> 00:23:32,712 even though the polygraph result 994 00:23:29,309 --> 00:23:32,712 was not in his favor, 995 00:23:32,712 --> 00:23:34,948 Juan Reyes was innocent. 996 00:23:34,948 --> 00:23:37,830 He didn't do it. 997 00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:40,220 Well, where did 998 00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:40,220 that leave you? 999 00:23:40,220 --> 00:23:42,355 - Worried about my case. 1000 00:23:42,355 --> 00:23:44,357 - A case that had 1001 00:23:42,355 --> 00:23:44,357 become personal 1002 00:23:44,357 --> 00:23:46,359 for Detective Franklin. 1003 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,940 He felt like 1004 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,940 he knew Richard, 1005 00:23:48,940 --> 00:23:51,131 like he was 1006 00:23:48,940 --> 00:23:51,131 mourning him somehow. 1007 00:23:51,131 --> 00:23:52,932 - I would sit at the scene, 1008 00:23:51,131 --> 00:23:52,932 stand at the scene, 1009 00:23:52,932 --> 00:23:54,567 reflect, and just 1010 00:23:52,932 --> 00:23:54,567 kinda sit there 1011 00:23:54,567 --> 00:23:56,736 and try to go over things 1012 00:23:54,567 --> 00:23:56,736 in my head, 1013 00:23:56,736 --> 00:24:01,274 um, and-and try to figure out 1014 00:23:56,736 --> 00:24:01,274 what direction to take. 1015 00:24:01,274 --> 00:24:02,709 - What could he do? 1016 00:24:02,709 --> 00:24:04,440 About all Franklin 1017 00:24:02,709 --> 00:24:04,440 had to go on 1018 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,112 was this picture 1019 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,112 of tire tracks 1020 00:24:06,112 --> 00:24:08,682 left in the soft soil 1021 00:24:06,112 --> 00:24:08,682 at the clearing. 1022 00:24:08,682 --> 00:24:11,317 Could he use this 1023 00:24:08,682 --> 00:24:11,317 to find his killer? 1024 00:24:11,317 --> 00:24:12,919 Not so easy. 1025 00:24:12,919 --> 00:24:15,388 Didn't even know 1026 00:24:12,919 --> 00:24:15,388 the make of the tire. 1027 00:24:15,388 --> 00:24:16,556 - We looked on the Internet, 1028 00:24:16,556 --> 00:24:18,658 but we're-we're 1029 00:24:16,556 --> 00:24:18,658 coming up empty. 1030 00:24:18,658 --> 00:24:20,527 Um, we went to 1031 00:24:18,658 --> 00:24:20,527 car dealerships. 1032 00:24:20,527 --> 00:24:23,630 We went to retail 1033 00:24:20,527 --> 00:24:23,630 tire establishments. 1034 00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:25,632 We would pull up next to 1035 00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:25,632 cars at traffic lights 1036 00:24:25,632 --> 00:24:27,534 and look what kinda tires 1037 00:24:25,632 --> 00:24:27,534 they had on 'em. 1038 00:24:27,534 --> 00:24:28,802 - And you weren't 1039 00:24:27,534 --> 00:24:28,802 seeing 'em. 1040 00:24:28,802 --> 00:24:30,837 - No, and anybody-anybody 1041 00:24:28,802 --> 00:24:30,837 that we talked to, 1042 00:24:30,837 --> 00:24:33,840 we looked at their tires 1043 00:24:30,837 --> 00:24:33,840 just to-just to be sure. 1044 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,942 - Then one day at 1045 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,942 yet another tire store, 1046 00:24:35,942 --> 00:24:38,945 a colleague called him 1047 00:24:35,942 --> 00:24:38,945 to a stock area out back. 1048 00:24:38,945 --> 00:24:40,347 - He pointed at this tire, 1049 00:24:38,945 --> 00:24:40,347 and I looked at it, 1050 00:24:40,347 --> 00:24:41,848 and immediately 1051 00:24:40,347 --> 00:24:41,848 I said, "That's it." 1052 00:24:41,848 --> 00:24:43,830 And I said, "Okay." 1053 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:44,918 So, we pulled it, and it was 1054 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:44,918 a Goodyear Integrity. 1055 00:24:44,918 --> 00:24:46,653 - Well, that 1056 00:24:44,918 --> 00:24:46,653 whittled it down. 1057 00:24:46,653 --> 00:24:48,355 Couldn't be more than, 1058 00:24:46,653 --> 00:24:48,355 what, millions of cars 1059 00:24:48,355 --> 00:24:50,857 with Goodyear Integrity tires. 1060 00:24:50,857 --> 00:24:52,959 But just about the time 1061 00:24:50,857 --> 00:24:52,959 Franklin was contemplating 1062 00:24:52,959 --> 00:24:55,950 that little problem... 1063 00:24:55,950 --> 00:24:57,297 - Got a phone call 1064 00:24:55,950 --> 00:24:57,297 from an I.T. technician 1065 00:24:57,297 --> 00:25:00,266 at the DeKalb Medical Center, 1066 00:24:57,297 --> 00:25:00,266 um, and this was-- 1067 00:25:00,266 --> 00:25:01,501 - Just, like, 1068 00:25:00,266 --> 00:25:01,501 out of the blue? 1069 00:25:01,501 --> 00:25:03,360 - Yes. 1070 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:05,772 - That's where the office was 1071 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:05,772 that Stacey managed. 1072 00:25:05,772 --> 00:25:07,907 The guy's job there 1073 00:25:05,772 --> 00:25:07,907 was, in part, 1074 00:25:07,907 --> 00:25:11,811 clearing the junk from 1075 00:25:07,907 --> 00:25:11,811 employee email accounts. 1076 00:25:11,811 --> 00:25:14,381 - And he noticed that 1077 00:25:11,811 --> 00:25:14,381 Stacey's inbox for 1078 00:25:14,381 --> 00:25:16,820 Friday, Saturday, and Sunday 1079 00:25:16,820 --> 00:25:18,184 had been completely 1080 00:25:16,820 --> 00:25:18,184 cleaned out. 1081 00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:19,686 - Curious. 1082 00:25:19,686 --> 00:25:22,222 That was the very weekend 1083 00:25:19,686 --> 00:25:22,222 of the murder. 1084 00:25:22,222 --> 00:25:25,425 - So, he thought enough 1085 00:25:22,222 --> 00:25:25,425 to give us a call. 1086 00:25:25,425 --> 00:25:28,862 - Was Stacey, Mama Spreadsheet, 1087 00:25:25,425 --> 00:25:28,862 the Cub Scout den leader 1088 00:25:28,862 --> 00:25:31,398 actually hiding something, 1089 00:25:28,862 --> 00:25:31,398 or did she just 1090 00:25:31,398 --> 00:25:34,434 accidentally hit delete 1091 00:25:31,398 --> 00:25:34,434 too many times? 1092 00:25:34,434 --> 00:25:36,302 Of course, 1093 00:25:34,434 --> 00:25:36,302 all those deleted files 1094 00:25:36,302 --> 00:25:38,204 had been backed up. 1095 00:25:38,204 --> 00:25:40,730 So, they got a warrant, 1096 00:25:40,730 --> 00:25:41,808 collected all of 1097 00:25:40,730 --> 00:25:41,808 Stacey's emails, 1098 00:25:41,808 --> 00:25:45,779 not just from that weekend, 1099 00:25:41,808 --> 00:25:45,779 4,000 emails in all. 1100 00:25:45,779 --> 00:25:47,914 - It was quite a task. 1101 00:25:47,914 --> 00:25:50,617 - And a lot of it 1102 00:25:47,914 --> 00:25:50,617 was spam, 1103 00:25:50,617 --> 00:25:54,870 except two emails seemed-- 1104 00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:55,822 well, they stood out, 1105 00:25:55,822 --> 00:25:57,724 requests from Stacey 1106 00:25:55,822 --> 00:25:57,724 to her bank 1107 00:25:57,724 --> 00:25:59,726 to transfer money 1108 00:25:57,724 --> 00:25:59,726 out of something called 1109 00:25:59,726 --> 00:26:01,561 a real estate account. 1110 00:26:01,561 --> 00:26:02,896 - So, a few weeks 1111 00:26:01,561 --> 00:26:02,896 before the murder was 1112 00:26:02,896 --> 00:26:06,866 the first transfer, $8,902. 1113 00:26:06,866 --> 00:26:09,302 The second transfer was 1114 00:26:06,866 --> 00:26:09,302 the Friday before the murder, 1115 00:26:09,302 --> 00:26:11,304 on February the 12th 1116 00:26:09,302 --> 00:26:11,304 of 2010, 1117 00:26:11,304 --> 00:26:13,606 and that was for $1,100. 1118 00:26:13,606 --> 00:26:15,508 Both times, the money 1119 00:26:13,606 --> 00:26:15,508 went into the account 1120 00:26:15,508 --> 00:26:18,278 of somebody named 1121 00:26:15,508 --> 00:26:18,278 Lynitra Ross, 1122 00:26:18,278 --> 00:26:20,246 who turned out be 1123 00:26:18,278 --> 00:26:20,246 Stacey's friend 1124 00:26:20,246 --> 00:26:22,749 and work colleague 1125 00:26:20,246 --> 00:26:22,749 and tenant. 1126 00:26:22,749 --> 00:26:25,385 She was renting 1127 00:26:22,749 --> 00:26:25,385 a house from Stacey. 1128 00:26:25,385 --> 00:26:28,540 So, they went to have 1129 00:26:25,385 --> 00:26:28,540 a talk with Lynitra. 1130 00:26:28,540 --> 00:26:29,222 How did she react? 1131 00:26:29,222 --> 00:26:30,390 - Very calm, very cool. 1132 00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:32,580 - Didn't seem to 1133 00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:32,580 be hiding anything? 1134 00:26:32,580 --> 00:26:33,626 - Not based on 1135 00:26:32,580 --> 00:26:33,626 what I was looking at. 1136 00:26:33,626 --> 00:26:35,628 She just seemed 1137 00:26:33,626 --> 00:26:35,628 very-very collected, 1138 00:26:35,628 --> 00:26:38,798 and so, um, I asked her 1139 00:26:35,628 --> 00:26:38,798 about the money transfer. 1140 00:26:38,798 --> 00:26:41,670 He made an audio recording 1141 00:26:38,798 --> 00:26:41,670 of the interview. 1142 00:26:50,643 --> 00:26:53,246 - Why did Stacey 1143 00:26:50,643 --> 00:26:53,246 give her $8,900? 1144 00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:59,119 - She said that they 1145 00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:59,119 had redone the roof, 1146 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,389 um, the-the interior of 1147 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,389 the house, carpet, flooring, 1148 00:27:02,389 --> 00:27:03,289 and that kinda thing. 1149 00:27:03,289 --> 00:27:05,325 - And the $1,100? 1150 00:27:05,325 --> 00:27:06,693 Still more repairs. 1151 00:27:09,796 --> 00:27:11,310 - But the story made sense. 1152 00:27:11,310 --> 00:27:13,733 - It made sense, and she 1153 00:27:11,310 --> 00:27:13,733 was always cooperative. 1154 00:27:13,733 --> 00:27:16,403 - A simple 1155 00:27:13,733 --> 00:27:16,403 business transaction. 1156 00:27:16,403 --> 00:27:19,506 Detective Franklin was 1157 00:27:16,403 --> 00:27:19,506 right back where he started. 1158 00:27:19,506 --> 00:27:21,441 - Yeah, it-it gets 1159 00:27:19,506 --> 00:27:21,441 to a point 1160 00:27:21,441 --> 00:27:23,677 where you're-you're 1161 00:27:21,441 --> 00:27:23,677 still, you know, looking 1162 00:27:23,677 --> 00:27:27,414 for-for ways 1163 00:27:23,677 --> 00:27:27,414 to-to move forward. 1164 00:27:27,414 --> 00:27:29,816 - It was March by then, 1165 00:27:29,816 --> 00:27:32,118 close to a month 1166 00:27:29,816 --> 00:27:32,118 since the murder, 1167 00:27:32,118 --> 00:27:34,621 and they seemed 1168 00:27:32,118 --> 00:27:34,621 to be going nowhere. 1169 00:27:34,621 --> 00:27:36,322 What to do now? 1170 00:27:36,322 --> 00:27:38,558 How about grasp at straws? 1171 00:27:38,558 --> 00:27:39,826 - It's called a tower dump. 1172 00:27:39,826 --> 00:27:41,594 - A tower dump? 1173 00:27:41,594 --> 00:27:44,130 - It was a shot in 1174 00:27:41,594 --> 00:27:44,130 the dark, but I took it. 1175 00:27:44,130 --> 00:27:46,533 - Coming up... 1176 00:27:46,533 --> 00:27:49,690 A killer with a gun 1177 00:27:46,533 --> 00:27:49,690 and a cell phone 1178 00:27:49,690 --> 00:27:51,604 about to make 1179 00:27:49,690 --> 00:27:51,604 a big mistake. 1180 00:27:51,604 --> 00:27:53,206 - My way of thinking was, 1181 00:27:51,604 --> 00:27:53,206 if he's sittin' there 1182 00:27:53,206 --> 00:27:55,709 waitin' in this secluded, 1183 00:27:53,206 --> 00:27:55,709 dark place at night, 1184 00:27:55,709 --> 00:27:57,770 is he gonna sit there 1185 00:27:55,709 --> 00:27:57,770 and twiddle his thumbs, 1186 00:27:57,770 --> 00:27:58,678 or maybe he'll make 1187 00:27:57,770 --> 00:27:58,678 a phone call. 1188 00:27:58,678 --> 00:27:59,779 Had no idea. 1189 00:27:59,879 --> 00:28:12,625 - One month into 1190 00:27:59,879 --> 00:28:12,625 his investigation 1191 00:28:13,259 --> 00:28:15,328 of the murder of 1192 00:28:13,259 --> 00:28:15,328 Richard Schoeck, 1193 00:28:15,328 --> 00:28:18,932 Detective Franklin 1194 00:28:15,328 --> 00:28:18,932 was stuck in the weeds. 1195 00:28:18,932 --> 00:28:20,667 - I would sit down with 1196 00:28:18,932 --> 00:28:20,667 my supervisor, and I said, 1197 00:28:20,667 --> 00:28:21,768 "Look, I'm worried 1198 00:28:20,667 --> 00:28:21,768 about this case." 1199 00:28:21,768 --> 00:28:23,360 And he would tell me, 1200 00:28:21,768 --> 00:28:23,360 "Just hang in there. 1201 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:25,672 All it'll take, is a very 1202 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:25,672 small piece of information, 1203 00:28:25,672 --> 00:28:27,307 uh, to break 1204 00:28:25,672 --> 00:28:27,307 this thing loose." 1205 00:28:27,307 --> 00:28:30,176 - And sure enough, 1206 00:28:27,307 --> 00:28:30,176 what do ya know? 1207 00:28:30,176 --> 00:28:31,845 The detective 1208 00:28:30,176 --> 00:28:31,845 got a phone call. 1209 00:28:36,116 --> 00:28:39,520 - The caller was 1210 00:28:36,116 --> 00:28:39,520 Stacey's cousin, Connie. 1211 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,587 She'd been troubled 1212 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,587 by something, 1213 00:28:40,587 --> 00:28:42,355 she told the detective. 1214 00:28:42,355 --> 00:28:44,958 - It took me a good 1215 00:28:42,355 --> 00:28:44,958 three weeks contemplating, 1216 00:28:44,958 --> 00:28:48,610 you know, should I call? 1217 00:28:44,958 --> 00:28:48,610 Should I not? 1218 00:28:48,610 --> 00:28:50,630 - After all, Stacey was 1219 00:28:48,610 --> 00:28:50,630 like a big sister, 1220 00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:53,466 said Connie, but there 1221 00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:53,466 was just something wrong, 1222 00:28:53,466 --> 00:28:57,971 like the strange business about 1223 00:28:53,466 --> 00:28:57,971 her grandparents' 2009 Impala. 1224 00:28:57,971 --> 00:29:00,400 - Stacey was supposed 1225 00:28:57,971 --> 00:29:00,400 to sell it for them 1226 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,841 because they were 1227 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,841 having problems, 1228 00:29:01,841 --> 00:29:04,144 and they needed money 1229 00:29:01,841 --> 00:29:04,144 for medical bills. 1230 00:29:04,144 --> 00:29:06,279 - But after Stacey 1231 00:29:04,144 --> 00:29:06,279 took the car? 1232 00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:08,882 - A couple weeks later, 1233 00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:08,882 it'd be back at her house. 1234 00:29:08,882 --> 00:29:11,117 And then a couple weeks 1235 00:29:08,882 --> 00:29:11,117 later, it wasn't. 1236 00:29:11,117 --> 00:29:13,190 Then it got to the point 1237 00:29:11,117 --> 00:29:13,190 where she said 1238 00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:16,156 that she sold it 1239 00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:16,156 for $16,000. 1240 00:29:16,156 --> 00:29:19,920 - And yet, Stacey 1241 00:29:16,156 --> 00:29:19,920 never produced the money. 1242 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,128 - The family was persistent 1243 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,128 about this car. 1244 00:29:22,128 --> 00:29:23,396 And so, finally, 1245 00:29:22,128 --> 00:29:23,396 we're like, you know, 1246 00:29:23,396 --> 00:29:24,497 it's likely that 1247 00:29:23,396 --> 00:29:24,497 it was used. 1248 00:29:24,497 --> 00:29:26,990 We don't know where it's at. 1249 00:29:24,497 --> 00:29:26,990 Let's find this thing. 1250 00:29:26,990 --> 00:29:27,367 - So, they ran 1251 00:29:26,990 --> 00:29:27,367 the VIN number. 1252 00:29:27,367 --> 00:29:29,135 Found the car. 1253 00:29:29,135 --> 00:29:31,304 Stacey had sold it 1254 00:29:29,135 --> 00:29:31,304 by then. 1255 00:29:31,304 --> 00:29:33,840 - And lo and behold, it's got 1256 00:29:31,304 --> 00:29:33,840 Goodyear Integrities on it. 1257 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,375 So, at that point, 1258 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,375 I was confident 1259 00:29:35,375 --> 00:29:37,477 that I had found the car 1260 00:29:35,375 --> 00:29:37,477 that Richard was killed from. 1261 00:29:37,477 --> 00:29:41,214 - Which was great, 1262 00:29:37,477 --> 00:29:41,214 except, who was in it? 1263 00:29:41,214 --> 00:29:43,490 No idea. 1264 00:29:43,490 --> 00:29:45,819 Detective Franklin 1265 00:29:43,490 --> 00:29:45,819 was still stuck. 1266 00:29:45,819 --> 00:29:48,555 So, he took a longshot. 1267 00:29:48,555 --> 00:29:51,691 He asked for something 1268 00:29:48,555 --> 00:29:51,691 called a tower dump, 1269 00:29:51,691 --> 00:29:54,127 information dump that is, 1270 00:29:51,691 --> 00:29:54,127 from this cell tower 1271 00:29:54,127 --> 00:29:56,463 on a farm 1272 00:29:54,127 --> 00:29:56,463 near the crime scene. 1273 00:29:56,463 --> 00:29:59,165 - I subpoenaed all calls 1274 00:29:56,463 --> 00:29:59,165 that generated 1275 00:29:59,165 --> 00:30:01,134 from the tower that services 1276 00:29:59,165 --> 00:30:01,134 Belton Bridge Park 1277 00:30:01,134 --> 00:30:02,702 for the night of the murder 1278 00:30:02,702 --> 00:30:05,739 from about 7 p.m. 1279 00:30:02,702 --> 00:30:05,739 until about 9:30. 1280 00:30:05,739 --> 00:30:08,408 - Until 9:30 because 1281 00:30:05,739 --> 00:30:08,408 that's when Stacey arrived 1282 00:30:08,408 --> 00:30:09,976 and found Richard. 1283 00:30:09,976 --> 00:30:12,278 Why start looking 1284 00:30:09,976 --> 00:30:12,278 at 7 p.m.? 1285 00:30:12,278 --> 00:30:13,713 - It was apparent 1286 00:30:12,278 --> 00:30:13,713 that, to me, 1287 00:30:13,713 --> 00:30:16,249 that the gunman lay 1288 00:30:13,713 --> 00:30:16,249 in wait for Richard. 1289 00:30:16,249 --> 00:30:18,510 And so, my way of 1290 00:30:16,249 --> 00:30:18,510 thinking was, 1291 00:30:18,510 --> 00:30:19,185 if he's 1292 00:30:18,510 --> 00:30:19,185 sittin' there waitin' 1293 00:30:19,185 --> 00:30:21,121 in this secluded, 1294 00:30:19,185 --> 00:30:21,121 dark place at night, 1295 00:30:21,121 --> 00:30:22,389 is he gonna sit there 1296 00:30:21,121 --> 00:30:22,389 and twiddle his thumbs, 1297 00:30:22,389 --> 00:30:24,240 or maybe he'll make 1298 00:30:22,389 --> 00:30:24,240 a phone call. 1299 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,959 Had no idea. 1300 00:30:25,959 --> 00:30:27,727 - If the killer 1301 00:30:25,959 --> 00:30:27,727 called anybody, 1302 00:30:27,727 --> 00:30:29,496 it should show up 1303 00:30:27,727 --> 00:30:29,496 on the tower's record 1304 00:30:29,496 --> 00:30:31,364 of outgoing cell calls. 1305 00:30:31,364 --> 00:30:33,466 Four major carriers 1306 00:30:31,364 --> 00:30:33,466 on that tower, 1307 00:30:33,466 --> 00:30:35,769 thousands of calls, 1308 00:30:35,769 --> 00:30:38,638 but what number 1309 00:30:35,769 --> 00:30:38,638 should he look for? 1310 00:30:38,638 --> 00:30:41,474 Why not play a hunch 1311 00:30:38,638 --> 00:30:41,474 he'd had all along? 1312 00:30:41,474 --> 00:30:42,976 - Stacey is 1313 00:30:41,474 --> 00:30:42,976 involved somehow. 1314 00:30:42,976 --> 00:30:45,712 You have this third vehicle, 1315 00:30:42,976 --> 00:30:45,712 uh, at the scene. 1316 00:30:45,712 --> 00:30:48,214 You have overkill with-with 1317 00:30:45,712 --> 00:30:48,214 the way Richard died. 1318 00:30:48,214 --> 00:30:50,150 So, based on 1319 00:30:48,214 --> 00:30:50,150 all those things, 1320 00:30:50,150 --> 00:30:53,119 a murder for hire starts 1321 00:30:50,150 --> 00:30:53,119 crossing your mind. 1322 00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:55,221 - Franklin's idea was 1323 00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:55,221 to compare the numbers 1324 00:30:55,221 --> 00:30:57,570 from the tower dump 1325 00:30:55,221 --> 00:30:57,570 to the phone numbers 1326 00:30:57,570 --> 00:31:00,930 on Stacey's 1327 00:30:57,570 --> 00:31:00,930 personal contact list. 1328 00:31:00,930 --> 00:31:02,950 - The best source of 1329 00:31:00,930 --> 00:31:02,950 information I felt I had 1330 00:31:02,950 --> 00:31:03,930 was Stacey's contact list. 1331 00:31:03,930 --> 00:31:06,266 It was 258 contacts, 1332 00:31:03,930 --> 00:31:06,266 I think. 1333 00:31:06,266 --> 00:31:08,680 - So, if you could find 1334 00:31:06,266 --> 00:31:08,680 any phone call 1335 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,636 coming from the crime scene 1336 00:31:09,636 --> 00:31:11,671 that happened to be 1337 00:31:09,636 --> 00:31:11,671 on her contact list, 1338 00:31:11,671 --> 00:31:13,139 that would give you 1339 00:31:11,671 --> 00:31:13,139 a big link. 1340 00:31:13,139 --> 00:31:15,108 - Yes, that-that would 1341 00:31:13,139 --> 00:31:15,108 give me some direction. 1342 00:31:15,108 --> 00:31:17,977 - A lot of numbers 1343 00:31:15,108 --> 00:31:17,977 to compare, 1344 00:31:17,977 --> 00:31:21,181 but then he got lucky, 1345 00:31:17,977 --> 00:31:21,181 really lucky. 1346 00:31:21,181 --> 00:31:24,150 Maybe 150 numbers 1347 00:31:21,181 --> 00:31:24,150 into his search, 1348 00:31:24,150 --> 00:31:27,187 there it was, a match. 1349 00:31:27,187 --> 00:31:28,421 - It said Reggie. 1350 00:31:28,421 --> 00:31:30,623 - The call was placed 1351 00:31:28,421 --> 00:31:30,623 at 8:40 p.m. 1352 00:31:30,623 --> 00:31:32,559 - And it was 1353 00:31:30,623 --> 00:31:32,559 a 28-second call. 1354 00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:34,260 - So, Richard left 1355 00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:34,260 the grandparents' house 1356 00:31:34,260 --> 00:31:35,662 at about 8:15. 1357 00:31:35,662 --> 00:31:36,896 It's about 1358 00:31:35,662 --> 00:31:36,896 a 15-minute drive 1359 00:31:36,896 --> 00:31:39,366 from the grandparents' house 1360 00:31:36,896 --> 00:31:39,366 to the park. 1361 00:31:39,366 --> 00:31:40,767 - Would have got there 1362 00:31:39,366 --> 00:31:40,767 around 8:30. 1363 00:31:40,767 --> 00:31:41,835 - He would've 1364 00:31:40,767 --> 00:31:41,835 got there at 8:30, 1365 00:31:41,835 --> 00:31:43,169 and we felt he was killed 1366 00:31:43,169 --> 00:31:45,500 as soon as he stepped out 1367 00:31:43,169 --> 00:31:45,500 of his truck. 1368 00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:46,106 So, you're looking 1369 00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:46,106 at him dying 1370 00:31:46,106 --> 00:31:48,108 sometime right around 1371 00:31:46,106 --> 00:31:48,108 8:30 to 8:45. 1372 00:31:48,108 --> 00:31:52,145 So, here's a call from Reggie 1373 00:31:48,108 --> 00:31:52,145 in Stacey's contact list 1374 00:31:52,145 --> 00:31:54,447 at 8:40 p.m. on the night 1375 00:31:52,145 --> 00:31:54,447 of the murder. 1376 00:31:54,447 --> 00:31:56,216 - But who was Reggie? 1377 00:31:56,216 --> 00:31:57,684 - And under 1378 00:31:56,216 --> 00:31:57,684 Reggie's company name, 1379 00:31:57,684 --> 00:31:59,219 it said Mr. Results. 1380 00:31:59,219 --> 00:32:02,188 - So, Franklin's next step, 1381 00:31:59,219 --> 00:32:02,188 naturally... 1382 00:32:02,188 --> 00:32:04,657 - And I simply 1383 00:32:02,188 --> 00:32:04,657 Googled Mr. Results. 1384 00:32:04,657 --> 00:32:07,594 The first link was 1385 00:32:04,657 --> 00:32:07,594 Mr. Results Personal Training. 1386 00:32:07,594 --> 00:32:09,729 - His name was 1387 00:32:07,594 --> 00:32:09,729 Reginald Coleman, 1388 00:32:09,729 --> 00:32:13,433 personal trainer and former 1389 00:32:09,729 --> 00:32:13,433 semiprofessional boxer, 1390 00:32:13,433 --> 00:32:17,137 and he held workout sessions 1391 00:32:13,433 --> 00:32:17,137 at Stacey's office. 1392 00:32:18,271 --> 00:32:19,572 Then Detective Franklin 1393 00:32:18,271 --> 00:32:19,572 looked at 1394 00:32:19,572 --> 00:32:21,141 the number Reggie called. 1395 00:32:21,141 --> 00:32:22,275 - And I should've 1396 00:32:21,141 --> 00:32:22,275 already recognized it 1397 00:32:22,275 --> 00:32:23,943 because I already 1398 00:32:22,275 --> 00:32:23,943 had it in my notes 1399 00:32:23,943 --> 00:32:25,712 because it was 1400 00:32:23,943 --> 00:32:25,712 Lynitra Ross. 1401 00:32:25,712 --> 00:32:28,848 - Lynitra Ross, the woman 1402 00:32:25,712 --> 00:32:28,848 who claimed she received 1403 00:32:28,848 --> 00:32:32,185 $10,000 from Stacey 1404 00:32:28,848 --> 00:32:32,185 for house repairs 1405 00:32:32,185 --> 00:32:34,688 within three weeks 1406 00:32:32,185 --> 00:32:34,688 of the murder. 1407 00:32:34,688 --> 00:32:38,158 Now, the trail 1408 00:32:34,688 --> 00:32:38,158 was warm, very warm. 1409 00:32:38,158 --> 00:32:40,293 He pulled phone records 1410 00:32:38,158 --> 00:32:40,293 for all three, 1411 00:32:40,293 --> 00:32:42,529 Reggie, Lynitra, 1412 00:32:40,293 --> 00:32:42,529 and Stacey. 1413 00:32:42,529 --> 00:32:45,999 Combed through hundreds 1414 00:32:42,529 --> 00:32:45,999 of calls and texts 1415 00:32:45,999 --> 00:32:47,100 until... 1416 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:48,968 - A very interesting 1417 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:48,968 sequence of calls 1418 00:32:48,968 --> 00:32:50,837 actually emerged 1419 00:32:48,968 --> 00:32:50,837 from that. 1420 00:32:50,837 --> 00:32:55,475 - A sequence on February 14th, 1421 00:32:50,837 --> 00:32:55,475 it went like this. 1422 00:32:55,475 --> 00:32:58,978 At 6:42 p.m., 1423 00:32:55,475 --> 00:32:58,978 Reggie called Lynitra. 1424 00:32:58,978 --> 00:33:02,749 At 6:45, Lynitra 1425 00:32:58,978 --> 00:33:02,749 called Stacey. 1426 00:33:02,749 --> 00:33:07,287 At 6:48, Lynitra 1427 00:33:02,749 --> 00:33:07,287 called Reggie back. 1428 00:33:07,287 --> 00:33:08,788 - In my mind, Reggie 1429 00:33:07,287 --> 00:33:08,788 called Lynitra and said, 1430 00:33:08,788 --> 00:33:10,560 "Are we still doing this?" 1431 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,292 And Lynitra called Stacey, 1432 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,292 and Stacey confirming, 1433 00:33:12,292 --> 00:33:13,927 "Yes, he's here, 1434 00:33:12,292 --> 00:33:13,927 I'll have him at the park," 1435 00:33:13,927 --> 00:33:15,528 and then Lynitra 1436 00:33:13,927 --> 00:33:15,528 calling Reggie back saying, 1437 00:33:15,528 --> 00:33:17,764 "Yes, go up there." 1438 00:33:17,764 --> 00:33:21,968 - And after that, 1439 00:33:17,764 --> 00:33:21,968 no more calls until 8:40 p.m. 1440 00:33:21,968 --> 00:33:25,171 when Reggie's call to Lynitra 1441 00:33:21,968 --> 00:33:25,171 was captured by the tower 1442 00:33:25,171 --> 00:33:26,506 near the crime scene. 1443 00:33:26,506 --> 00:33:28,942 - The call at 8:40 p.m. 1444 00:33:26,506 --> 00:33:28,942 to Lynitra Ross 1445 00:33:28,942 --> 00:33:31,770 was Reggie calling her saying, 1446 00:33:28,942 --> 00:33:31,770 "It's done." 1447 00:33:31,770 --> 00:33:33,646 - And then get this. 1448 00:33:33,646 --> 00:33:37,250 At 9 p.m., 1449 00:33:33,646 --> 00:33:37,250 Lynitra sent Stacey a text. 1450 00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:40,220 Happy Valentine's Day, 1451 00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:40,220 it said. 1452 00:33:40,220 --> 00:33:42,880 Is that a code? 1453 00:33:40,220 --> 00:33:42,880 - It was. 1454 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,792 - Code for it's done. 1455 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,792 He's dead. 1456 00:33:45,792 --> 00:33:47,827 Almost there now. 1457 00:33:47,827 --> 00:33:51,564 All he needed was a money trail 1458 00:33:47,827 --> 00:33:51,564 to prove murder for hire, 1459 00:33:51,564 --> 00:33:54,300 so bank records this time. 1460 00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:56,736 - It was the same tedious work 1461 00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:56,736 as the cell phone records. 1462 00:33:56,736 --> 00:33:57,871 - And guess what? 1463 00:33:57,871 --> 00:34:00,840 That $10,000 that Stacey 1464 00:33:57,871 --> 00:34:00,840 transferred to Lynitra 1465 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,642 supposedly from 1466 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,642 a real estate account 1467 00:34:02,642 --> 00:34:07,470 for home repairs, 1468 00:34:02,642 --> 00:34:07,470 only $1,800 went into that. 1469 00:34:07,470 --> 00:34:09,248 The rest went to 1470 00:34:07,470 --> 00:34:09,248 Lynitra for cash. 1471 00:34:09,248 --> 00:34:12,786 Lynitra wrote Reggie 1472 00:34:09,248 --> 00:34:12,786 a check for $700. 1473 00:34:12,786 --> 00:34:15,880 - All within three weeks 1474 00:34:12,786 --> 00:34:15,880 of the murder. 1475 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:16,188 That's the whole thing. 1476 00:34:16,188 --> 00:34:17,690 It had come together 1477 00:34:16,188 --> 00:34:17,690 at that point. 1478 00:34:17,690 --> 00:34:19,125 Reggie is my triggerman. 1479 00:34:19,125 --> 00:34:20,960 My middle person 1480 00:34:19,125 --> 00:34:20,960 is Lynitra Ross. 1481 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,897 - And the mastermind? 1482 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,897 Stacey. 1483 00:34:23,897 --> 00:34:25,965 - Three months after 1484 00:34:23,897 --> 00:34:25,965 the Valentine's Day murder 1485 00:34:25,965 --> 00:34:27,400 of Richard Schoeck... 1486 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,601 - Your charge is 1487 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,601 malice murder. 1488 00:34:28,601 --> 00:34:30,437 - Lynitra Ross. 1489 00:34:28,601 --> 00:34:30,437 - I'm gonna read you that. 1490 00:34:30,437 --> 00:34:33,172 Make you aware of the charge is, 1491 00:34:30,437 --> 00:34:33,172 and it's malice murder. 1492 00:34:33,172 --> 00:34:36,576 - Reggie Coleman and 1493 00:34:33,172 --> 00:34:36,576 Stacey Schoeck were arrested 1494 00:34:36,576 --> 00:34:39,713 and charged with murder. 1495 00:34:36,576 --> 00:34:39,713 But then... 1496 00:34:39,713 --> 00:34:43,416 - I told Stacey 1497 00:34:39,713 --> 00:34:43,416 we can fight this. 1498 00:34:43,416 --> 00:34:44,884 - A surprise was coming. 1499 00:34:44,884 --> 00:34:48,987 Check that-- 1500 00:34:44,884 --> 00:34:48,987 surprises, more than one. 1501 00:34:48,987 --> 00:34:53,560 Stacey had a story to tell. 1502 00:34:48,987 --> 00:34:53,560 - Arrested for murder. 1503 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,495 Stacey Schoeck prepares to 1504 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,495 tell police 1505 00:34:55,495 --> 00:34:59,632 exactly what happened 1506 00:34:55,495 --> 00:34:59,632 and why. 1507 00:34:59,632 --> 00:35:01,401 Coming up... 1508 00:35:01,401 --> 00:35:04,237 Is there ever an excuse 1509 00:35:01,401 --> 00:35:04,237 for murder? 1510 00:35:04,237 --> 00:35:07,730 - Having lived through that, 1511 00:35:04,237 --> 00:35:07,730 I was never gonna 1512 00:35:07,730 --> 00:35:08,742 let it happen to my kids. 1513 00:35:08,842 --> 00:35:20,186 ** 1514 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,322 - Three months 1515 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,322 after Stacey Schoeck 1516 00:35:22,322 --> 00:35:24,724 found her husband's 1517 00:35:22,322 --> 00:35:24,724 bullet perforated body 1518 00:35:24,724 --> 00:35:28,610 at Belton Bridge Park, 1519 00:35:24,724 --> 00:35:28,610 she and her alleged confederates 1520 00:35:28,610 --> 00:35:30,196 were under arrest for murder. 1521 00:35:30,196 --> 00:35:32,832 It was just crazy. 1522 00:35:30,196 --> 00:35:32,832 Didn't make sense. 1523 00:35:32,832 --> 00:35:35,869 A mother of three, 1524 00:35:32,832 --> 00:35:35,869 Cub Scout leader. 1525 00:35:35,869 --> 00:35:37,637 Surely, she'd come up 1526 00:35:35,869 --> 00:35:37,637 with a defense 1527 00:35:37,637 --> 00:35:39,973 when she met with her attorney, 1528 00:35:37,637 --> 00:35:39,973 Max Hirsch, 1529 00:35:39,973 --> 00:35:44,611 but, no, that's not 1530 00:35:39,973 --> 00:35:44,611 what happened, far from it. 1531 00:35:44,611 --> 00:35:45,845 - She laid it all out. 1532 00:35:45,845 --> 00:35:48,481 She didn't hesitate. 1533 00:35:45,845 --> 00:35:48,481 She didn't minimize. 1534 00:35:48,481 --> 00:35:51,685 She told me exactly 1535 00:35:48,481 --> 00:35:51,685 what the plan was. 1536 00:35:51,685 --> 00:35:54,220 - The plan for murder. 1537 00:35:54,220 --> 00:35:57,557 Her lawyer, no surprise, 1538 00:35:54,220 --> 00:35:57,557 had his own plan. 1539 00:35:57,557 --> 00:36:03,290 - I told Stacey I already know 1540 00:35:57,557 --> 00:36:03,290 how we would defend this case. 1541 00:36:03,290 --> 00:36:04,597 She looked me 1542 00:36:03,290 --> 00:36:04,597 straight in the eye, 1543 00:36:04,597 --> 00:36:09,869 without hesitation, 1544 00:36:04,597 --> 00:36:09,869 and said, "No, the gig is up. 1545 00:36:09,869 --> 00:36:12,739 I did this. 1546 00:36:09,869 --> 00:36:12,739 What I did was wrong. 1547 00:36:12,739 --> 00:36:14,607 No more lies." 1548 00:36:14,607 --> 00:36:17,711 - Stacey wanted to confess. 1549 00:36:17,711 --> 00:36:19,713 It took a while to arrange it, 1550 00:36:19,713 --> 00:36:21,448 but seven months 1551 00:36:19,713 --> 00:36:21,448 after the murder, 1552 00:36:21,448 --> 00:36:24,617 with the recording running, 1553 00:36:21,448 --> 00:36:24,617 confess she did. 1554 00:36:24,617 --> 00:36:27,153 - I'm not gonna keep lying. 1555 00:36:24,617 --> 00:36:27,153 I'm done. 1556 00:36:27,153 --> 00:36:29,422 I'm-I'm done, you know? 1557 00:36:29,422 --> 00:36:32,525 - It all started over lunch 1558 00:36:29,422 --> 00:36:32,525 with Lynitra, said Stacey, 1559 00:36:32,525 --> 00:36:35,261 when she told her friend 1560 00:36:32,525 --> 00:36:35,261 she wished her husband was dead, 1561 00:36:35,261 --> 00:36:37,530 and Lynitra 1562 00:36:35,261 --> 00:36:37,530 offered the services 1563 00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:40,433 of her sometime 1564 00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:40,433 boyfriend, Reggie. 1565 00:36:40,433 --> 00:36:41,901 - And then I was like, 1566 00:36:40,433 --> 00:36:41,901 "Reggie, really?" 1567 00:36:41,901 --> 00:36:43,336 And she was like, 1568 00:36:41,901 --> 00:36:43,336 "Yeah," and she said, 1569 00:36:43,336 --> 00:36:46,106 "Yeah, that's what he did. 1570 00:36:43,336 --> 00:36:46,106 That's what he does. 1571 00:36:46,106 --> 00:36:48,308 That's how he supplements 1572 00:36:46,106 --> 00:36:48,308 his income. 1573 00:36:48,308 --> 00:36:49,843 You know, he does jobs." 1574 00:36:49,843 --> 00:36:52,278 - So, said Stacey, 1575 00:36:49,843 --> 00:36:52,278 Lynitra arranged for 1576 00:36:52,278 --> 00:36:54,800 the three of them to meet, 1577 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,916 and Reggie agreed 1578 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,916 to kill Richard. 1579 00:36:56,916 --> 00:36:58,518 - Then I was like, 1580 00:36:56,916 --> 00:36:58,518 "Well, how much cash?" 1581 00:36:58,518 --> 00:37:00,320 And he was like, 1582 00:36:58,518 --> 00:37:00,320 "Well, you know, 1583 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,230 I was thinking around $10,000." 1584 00:37:03,230 --> 00:37:05,250 I was like, "Okay." 1585 00:37:05,250 --> 00:37:08,695 - That was the $10,000 1586 00:37:05,250 --> 00:37:08,695 Stacey transferred to Lynitra. 1587 00:37:08,695 --> 00:37:10,730 She gave the money to Reggie. 1588 00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:16,202 Stacey also agreed to give him 1589 00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:16,202 her grandparents' 2009 Impala. 1590 00:37:16,202 --> 00:37:18,638 Yes, that Impala 1591 00:37:18,638 --> 00:37:22,108 and the house Lynitra 1592 00:37:18,638 --> 00:37:22,108 was renting from her. 1593 00:37:22,108 --> 00:37:25,545 A week later, all three 1594 00:37:22,108 --> 00:37:25,545 went to scout the crime scene. 1595 00:37:25,545 --> 00:37:27,247 - So, he was like, 1596 00:37:25,545 --> 00:37:27,247 "Yeah, this will be-- 1597 00:37:27,247 --> 00:37:28,782 this is a perfect place." 1598 00:37:28,782 --> 00:37:30,884 And, um, 1599 00:37:28,782 --> 00:37:30,884 and he even made a comment that, 1600 00:37:30,884 --> 00:37:33,586 you know, "I might have to 1601 00:37:30,884 --> 00:37:33,586 use this place more often." 1602 00:37:33,586 --> 00:37:35,955 - But the night of the murder, 1603 00:37:33,586 --> 00:37:35,955 said Stacey, 1604 00:37:35,955 --> 00:37:38,910 Reggie botched the plan. 1605 00:37:38,910 --> 00:37:40,193 - That was-that was gonna be 1606 00:37:38,910 --> 00:37:40,193 my next question. 1607 00:37:40,193 --> 00:37:41,227 - It was supposed to be 1608 00:37:40,193 --> 00:37:41,227 a robbery. 1609 00:37:41,227 --> 00:37:42,295 - Right. 1610 00:37:41,227 --> 00:37:42,295 - That's what he had said. 1611 00:37:42,295 --> 00:37:43,930 It was supposed to be 1612 00:37:42,295 --> 00:37:43,930 one shot to the head. 1613 00:37:43,930 --> 00:37:45,732 I said, "I don't 1614 00:37:43,930 --> 00:37:45,732 want him to suffer. 1615 00:37:45,732 --> 00:37:49,169 I don't want him 1616 00:37:45,732 --> 00:37:49,169 to see anything." 1617 00:37:49,169 --> 00:37:53,473 - But why would she possibly 1618 00:37:49,169 --> 00:37:53,473 want to have Richard killed? 1619 00:37:53,473 --> 00:37:56,543 For that question, 1620 00:37:53,473 --> 00:37:56,543 Stacey offered this story. 1621 00:37:56,543 --> 00:37:58,478 - Things started clicking 1622 00:37:56,543 --> 00:37:58,478 in my brain 1623 00:37:58,478 --> 00:38:00,647 of what was happening 1624 00:37:58,478 --> 00:38:00,647 with my kids 1625 00:38:00,647 --> 00:38:08,288 and my family, and, um, um, 1626 00:38:00,647 --> 00:38:08,288 and I was convinced that, 1627 00:38:08,288 --> 00:38:10,657 um, my kids were being harmed. 1628 00:38:10,657 --> 00:38:14,794 - Stacey said she believed 1629 00:38:10,657 --> 00:38:14,794 Richard was molesting her sons. 1630 00:38:14,794 --> 00:38:17,564 They were acting out, 1631 00:38:14,794 --> 00:38:17,564 and there was something 1632 00:38:17,564 --> 00:38:18,898 one of them told her. 1633 00:38:18,898 --> 00:38:20,467 - "You don't know 1634 00:38:18,898 --> 00:38:20,467 what happens to-- 1635 00:38:20,467 --> 00:38:22,736 he does to me 1636 00:38:20,467 --> 00:38:22,736 when you're not here." 1637 00:38:22,736 --> 00:38:23,903 That kinda stuck. 1638 00:38:23,903 --> 00:38:26,539 You know, that stuck 1639 00:38:23,903 --> 00:38:26,539 in my brain for sure. 1640 00:38:26,539 --> 00:38:29,642 - To her, there was 1641 00:38:26,539 --> 00:38:29,642 just one solution. 1642 00:38:29,642 --> 00:38:31,778 - I didn't want police. 1643 00:38:29,642 --> 00:38:31,778 I didn't want a divorce. 1644 00:38:31,778 --> 00:38:33,880 I just wanted him-him dead. 1645 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,385 - And so, here it was, 1646 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,385 her reason for murder. 1647 00:38:38,385 --> 00:38:42,822 Stacey said she had been 1648 00:38:38,385 --> 00:38:42,822 molested as a child repeatedly, 1649 00:38:42,822 --> 00:38:45,910 and she knew what it was like. 1650 00:38:45,910 --> 00:38:46,192 - Having lived through that, 1651 00:38:46,192 --> 00:38:49,562 I was never gonna let it happen 1652 00:38:46,192 --> 00:38:49,562 to my kids. 1653 00:38:49,562 --> 00:38:53,660 - Did you ask the boys? 1654 00:38:49,562 --> 00:38:53,660 - Not-not direct-- 1655 00:38:53,660 --> 00:38:56,836 not-not directly enough, 1656 00:38:53,660 --> 00:38:56,836 not then. 1657 00:38:56,836 --> 00:38:58,338 I have since. 1658 00:38:58,338 --> 00:39:01,908 - It was after her arrest, 1659 00:38:58,338 --> 00:39:01,908 her sons asked her why. 1660 00:39:01,908 --> 00:39:04,477 What would make you 1661 00:39:01,908 --> 00:39:04,477 want to hurt him? 1662 00:39:04,477 --> 00:39:05,645 And she explained. 1663 00:39:05,645 --> 00:39:08,548 - People touched me 1664 00:39:05,645 --> 00:39:08,548 in a bad way when I was a kid, 1665 00:39:08,548 --> 00:39:11,170 and I reacted in certain ways, 1666 00:39:11,170 --> 00:39:13,787 and sometimes your behaviors 1667 00:39:11,170 --> 00:39:13,787 made me worry that 1668 00:39:13,787 --> 00:39:16,156 you were getting touched 1669 00:39:13,787 --> 00:39:16,156 in a bad way. 1670 00:39:16,156 --> 00:39:18,324 - And the son who made 1671 00:39:16,156 --> 00:39:18,324 that earlier statement 1672 00:39:18,324 --> 00:39:21,861 to his mother responded, 1673 00:39:18,324 --> 00:39:21,861 devastated. 1674 00:39:21,861 --> 00:39:24,640 - He said, "No." 1675 00:39:21,861 --> 00:39:24,640 He said, "No." 1676 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,766 He said, "I'm sorry. 1677 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,766 I exaggerated. 1678 00:39:26,766 --> 00:39:28,635 I'm sorry that 1679 00:39:26,766 --> 00:39:28,635 I said those things. 1680 00:39:28,635 --> 00:39:31,237 I-I-I blew things 1681 00:39:28,635 --> 00:39:31,237 out of proportion, mom." 1682 00:39:31,237 --> 00:39:35,508 - Stacey was wrong. 1683 00:39:31,237 --> 00:39:35,508 There was no abuse. 1684 00:39:35,508 --> 00:39:37,477 - Now, that's a hard thing 1685 00:39:35,508 --> 00:39:37,477 to deal with, too, 1686 00:39:37,477 --> 00:39:39,746 because now he has guilt. 1687 00:39:39,746 --> 00:39:42,115 - But was the motive 1688 00:39:39,746 --> 00:39:42,115 she admitted real, 1689 00:39:42,115 --> 00:39:45,719 or was a more venal truth 1690 00:39:42,115 --> 00:39:45,719 still withheld? 1691 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,789 There would be an answer, 1692 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,789 just not quite yet. 1693 00:39:49,789 --> 00:39:51,257 We asked for an interview 1694 00:39:49,789 --> 00:39:51,257 with Stacey, 1695 00:39:51,257 --> 00:39:53,126 but prison rules 1696 00:39:51,257 --> 00:39:53,126 wouldn't allow it, 1697 00:39:53,126 --> 00:39:56,620 so her attorney spoke 1698 00:39:53,126 --> 00:39:56,620 on her behalf. 1699 00:39:56,620 --> 00:39:59,466 - She understands 1700 00:39:56,620 --> 00:39:59,466 completely what she did. 1701 00:39:59,466 --> 00:40:02,469 She understands 1702 00:39:59,466 --> 00:40:02,469 it is her fault 1703 00:40:02,469 --> 00:40:06,873 Richard Schoeck is dead. 1704 00:40:02,469 --> 00:40:06,873 She doesn't have excuses. 1705 00:40:06,873 --> 00:40:09,909 - Stacey Schoeck 1706 00:40:06,873 --> 00:40:09,909 pleaded guilty to murder. 1707 00:40:09,909 --> 00:40:12,450 Reggie Coleman 1708 00:40:09,909 --> 00:40:12,450 did the same. 1709 00:40:12,450 --> 00:40:15,448 Lynitra Ross stood trial 1710 00:40:12,450 --> 00:40:15,448 and was found guilty, 1711 00:40:15,448 --> 00:40:17,150 and all of them 1712 00:40:15,448 --> 00:40:17,150 were sentenced to life in prison 1713 00:40:17,150 --> 00:40:21,321 without parole. 1714 00:40:17,150 --> 00:40:21,321 The case solved. 1715 00:40:21,321 --> 00:40:23,123 Three convictions 1716 00:40:21,321 --> 00:40:23,123 for the detective 1717 00:40:23,123 --> 00:40:25,425 who poured through 1718 00:40:23,123 --> 00:40:25,425 reams of phone numbers 1719 00:40:25,425 --> 00:40:28,940 and sniffed out 1720 00:40:25,425 --> 00:40:28,940 a murder for hire case. 1721 00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:30,300 - You know, when your gut 1722 00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:30,300 tell you somethin', 1723 00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:32,320 you should go with it, 1724 00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:32,320 and if it makes sense, 1725 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,335 then-then that's-that's 1726 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,335 probably what it is. 1727 00:40:35,335 --> 00:40:36,670 - Pretty obvious 1728 00:40:35,335 --> 00:40:36,670 if I ask you 1729 00:40:36,670 --> 00:40:40,407 where this fits in your, uh, 1730 00:40:36,670 --> 00:40:40,407 in your catalog of cases. 1731 00:40:40,407 --> 00:40:42,442 - Uh, uh, there will be-- 1732 00:40:40,407 --> 00:40:42,442 never be another one like it. 1733 00:40:42,442 --> 00:40:44,944 I'm pretty sure. 1734 00:40:42,442 --> 00:40:44,944 I hope not. 1735 00:40:44,944 --> 00:40:48,481 - And now, finally, 1736 00:40:44,944 --> 00:40:48,481 the last admission. 1737 00:40:48,481 --> 00:40:50,583 A few days 1738 00:40:48,481 --> 00:40:50,583 after Stacey was sent away, 1739 00:40:50,583 --> 00:40:52,852 Richard's sister, Carol, 1740 00:40:50,583 --> 00:40:52,852 went to see her. 1741 00:40:52,852 --> 00:40:55,789 Glared at Stacey 1742 00:40:52,852 --> 00:40:55,789 through the glass partition. 1743 00:40:55,789 --> 00:40:59,259 She didn't buy Stacey's story 1744 00:40:55,789 --> 00:40:59,259 about her reason 1745 00:40:59,259 --> 00:41:00,694 for killing Richard. 1746 00:41:00,694 --> 00:41:06,332 - I said, 1747 00:41:00,694 --> 00:41:06,332 "Okay, Stacey, this is it. 1748 00:41:06,332 --> 00:41:07,567 I wanna know." 1749 00:41:07,567 --> 00:41:11,538 And I said, 1750 00:41:07,567 --> 00:41:11,538 "No bull. No lies. 1751 00:41:11,538 --> 00:41:15,442 I wanna know 1752 00:41:11,538 --> 00:41:15,442 why you had Richard killed." 1753 00:41:15,442 --> 00:41:20,380 - There was a long pause, 1754 00:41:15,442 --> 00:41:20,380 and then out it came. 1755 00:41:20,380 --> 00:41:25,785 - She said, "Because of 1756 00:41:20,380 --> 00:41:25,785 my actions back then 1757 00:41:25,785 --> 00:41:30,357 and because of the way 1758 00:41:25,785 --> 00:41:30,357 I was living my life, 1759 00:41:30,357 --> 00:41:36,960 I knew that 1760 00:41:30,357 --> 00:41:36,960 I couldn't divorce Richard 1761 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,532 'cause if I divorced Richard, 1762 00:41:39,532 --> 00:41:47,707 he would have enough of a chance 1763 00:41:39,532 --> 00:41:47,707 to get custody of my kids, 1764 00:41:47,707 --> 00:41:50,377 which he had adopted legally, 1765 00:41:50,377 --> 00:41:54,681 and I couldn't 1766 00:41:50,377 --> 00:41:54,681 let that happen." 1767 00:41:54,681 --> 00:41:58,284 And I just looked at her, 1768 00:41:54,681 --> 00:41:58,284 and I said, "Thank you," 1769 00:41:58,284 --> 00:42:00,353 and I hung up the phone. 1770 00:42:00,353 --> 00:42:04,891 - But if the answer satisfied 1771 00:42:00,353 --> 00:42:04,891 some need to know, 1772 00:42:04,891 --> 00:42:08,610 the pain was 1773 00:42:04,891 --> 00:42:08,610 and is no different. 1774 00:42:08,610 --> 00:42:10,130 Richard Schoeck is dead. 1775 00:42:10,130 --> 00:42:12,665 His quirkiness, 1776 00:42:10,130 --> 00:42:12,665 adventurous spirit, 1777 00:42:12,665 --> 00:42:17,537 devotion to 1778 00:42:12,665 --> 00:42:17,537 those Boy Scouts, all gone. 1779 00:42:17,537 --> 00:42:18,405 - We had a thing. 1780 00:42:18,405 --> 00:42:20,206 It was called 1781 00:42:18,405 --> 00:42:20,206 a Richard fire. 1782 00:42:20,206 --> 00:42:22,275 If it wasn't stoked up 1783 00:42:20,206 --> 00:42:22,275 and burning bright 1784 00:42:22,275 --> 00:42:24,477 and the flames 1785 00:42:22,275 --> 00:42:24,477 almost licking the treetops, 1786 00:42:24,477 --> 00:42:26,379 it wasn't a good fire. 1787 00:42:24,477 --> 00:42:26,379 [laughing] 1788 00:42:26,379 --> 00:42:27,647 So, if you want 1789 00:42:26,379 --> 00:42:27,647 a Richard fire, 1790 00:42:27,647 --> 00:42:29,883 that's the fire 1791 00:42:27,647 --> 00:42:29,883 you gotta have. 1792 00:42:29,883 --> 00:42:32,585 And when we're at 1793 00:42:29,883 --> 00:42:32,585 scouting events, 1794 00:42:32,585 --> 00:42:34,421 and we see 1795 00:42:32,585 --> 00:42:34,421 the big fire we built 1796 00:42:34,421 --> 00:42:38,224 and the smoke coming up, 1797 00:42:34,421 --> 00:42:38,224 we all talk about Richard. 1798 00:42:40,293 --> 00:42:41,494 - And that's all for 1799 00:42:40,293 --> 00:42:41,494 this edition of 1800 00:42:41,494 --> 00:42:43,863 "Dateline: Secrets Uncovered." 1801 00:42:43,863 --> 00:42:43,930 I'm Craig Melvin. 1802 00:42:43,863 --> 00:42:43,930 Thank you for watching.