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♪♪

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[electric buzzing]

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- [indistinct chatter]
- [police siren]

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[police dispatch]...with a flashlight.

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You can see that she's
on the way to her house.

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There's also gonna be
a retired officer.

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Both have a weapon
at her location. A 9mm.

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[police officer] Twenty-five, uh...

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[police dispatch]
Got hit by a teenage daughter.

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The daughter is gonna be
a white female.

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The daughter...

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[Ronnie] Oh, man...

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[chuckles]

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Everyday thing.

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I've been working here for 12 years now.

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[sighs]

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The best thing about working this job...

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is being able to wear shorts.

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[chuckles]

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Let's go to work, do a briefing.

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Only schedule change is, uh...

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Steve Smith's gonna take
five hours of vacation today.

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[Ronnie] This is meal number...

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three.

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That's chicken and baked potato.

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[man] And so I grabbed my son by the arm
and said "go on back inside."

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Well, she lost it, and got a hold of me.

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[sighing]

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[Ronnie] Good ol' chicken.

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[television chatter]

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Damn.

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[police dispatch]
Claims the daughter has assaulted her

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in the stomach area with a fist.

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At this time,
the daughter is in the bedroom,

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does not have any vehicle,
might attempt to leave location.

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[Ronnie]
What seems to be the problem here?

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Where's Mom?

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[teenage daughter] She hit her
on her foot and it's swollen.

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[Ronnie] Well, she'll be lucky
if she just got hit on the foot.

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I wish I would've just got hit
on the foot when I was a kid.

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I got hit all over.

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[teenage daughter] She got hit
all over her legs and her arms.

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If I hit my mom back, I'd be dead.

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- Why are you crying?
- [teenage daughter] I don't know.

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Status: arrested.

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I've been bodybuilding for...

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ten years.

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And I've been working here for 12.

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And the famous question is...

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"Why do you still work here...

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and you're Mr. Olympia,
two-time Mr. Olympia?"

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My answer to that question is...

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"Because I love it."

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♪♪

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♪ Nothing gon' stop me ♪

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♪♪

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♪ Nothing ♪

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♪ Ha, like Ronnie Coleman ♪

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♪ Flex, hater ♪

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♪ That's why
I'm flexing on ♪

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♪ All year long
like I'm Ronnie Coleman ♪

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♪ I believe you got me wrong
if you think you can hold me ♪

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♪ Yeah, you only count me out
but you can't control it ♪

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♪ I won't let you control it

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♪ That's why I'm flexing on ♪

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♪ All year long
like I'm Ronnie Coleman ♪

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♪ I believe you got me wrong
if you think you can hold me ♪

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♪ Yeah, you only count me out
but you can't control it ♪

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♪ I won't let you control it ♪

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♪ Yeah, yeah ♪

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♪ I'm the type that like to do ♪

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♪ what can't be done ♪

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♪ Walk with wolves ♪

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♪ Lion hunt
with the lions ♪

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♪ Bear hug a bear ♪

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♪ I don't care ♪

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♪ In the Valley of Death,
only God I fear ♪

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♪ Count me out ♪

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♪ I count me in ♪

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♪ Just when you thought
I would end ♪

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♪ You realize I begin ♪

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♪ And that's why I'm flexing ♪

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♪ That's why I'm flexing on ♪

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♪ Yeah ♪

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♪ All year long
like I'm Ronnie Coleman ♪

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♪ I believe you got me wrong
if you think you can hold me ♪

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♪ Yeah, you only count me out
but you can't control it ♪

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♪ I won't let you control it ♪

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♪ That's why I'm flexing on ♪

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♪ All year long
like I'm Ronnie Coleman ♪

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♪ I believe you got me wrong
if you think you can hold me ♪

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♪ Yeah, you only count me out
but you can't control it ♪

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♪ I won't let you control it ♪

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♪ Yeah, yeah ♪

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♪♪

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[plastic crinkling]

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♪♪

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[Ronnie] Doctor said he's gonna go in
and perform a surgery

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in which he's gonna take out the screws,

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'cause all they're doing now
is just causing me pain,

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and when I say pain,
it's a lot of pain.

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It's, like, 24/7. It never stops.

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After a while,
you've been in pain so much

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you kind of get used to it,

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and you just kind of
learn to block it out.

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♪♪

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[Flex Wheeler] I feel bad for people
who didn't get to witness

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what Ronnie was in his prime.

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Videos and pictures
don't do no justice.

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To witness it, to, you know,

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feel the electricity in the air,

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just to gaze your eyes on that person.

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♪♪

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Late '90s, you know,
the guys that were there were so good.

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You had the Kevin Levrones,

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you had the Flex Wheeler,

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Shawn Ray.

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I mean, if you change the judging panel,

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Kevin Levrone could have
a Mr. Olympia title.

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Same could Flex.

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What I didn't have, Flex Wheeler had.

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What Flex Wheeler didn't have,
Shawn Ray had.

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You know, it ran deep.
You know, you had Chris Cormier.

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Everyone was so good, you know?

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Everyone was hungry.
We were all aggressive,

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especially, like, on stage.

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You don't find someone
stepping in front of someone

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without getting an elbow
or something like that.

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You know, it was just...
it was pretty aggressive.

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There was no room
for anybody else to get in.

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You know? So you had to be
just another crazy level.

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[Kai Greene] And you need to
be able to see those things

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in order to be able to appreciate
what the hell happened

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when Ronnie Coleman
pulled out of the backdrop and just...

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Just wasn't human...

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To just, naturally, to even perceive
what he looked like at his...

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at his peak, and at his best.

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[Kai] This guy, Ronnie Coleman,
looked like an alien.

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There was nobody that
you could compare that to.

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Nobody had that.

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Meat was just hanging off of his back,
and it was just traps...

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[Kai]
...and lats that were forever long.

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Pec line that was just,
you know, these muscle attachments

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that would go on forever, seemingly.

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Ronnie Coleman had things
on his body that we hadn't seen

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on another Mr. Olympia prior to him,

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and you probably won't see it
on another Mr. Olympia after him.

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Ronnie just had it all, man.

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He was strong, he was big,
he was bigger than everyone,

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he was more conditioned than everyone...

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And he just didn't give a shit.

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Like, he stood up there on that stage,
and just was like, "I'm here.

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Give me my Sandow,
and I'm leaving with it."

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That was it.
You had to admire that.

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And he was humble about it.

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He wasn't cocky, he wasn't arrogant.

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He knew it was his,
and he came and took it.

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♪♪

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♪♪

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[Vlad Yudin] All right, so I want
to ask you about your childhood.

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Can you tell me about
your family growing up?

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- I know you were born in Louisiana, right?
- Mm-hmm.

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Can you tell me a little
about your upbringing?

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♪♪

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[Ronnie]
First, it was just me and my brother,

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and, uh, my mom...

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She worked at the plant.

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It was a clothing manufacturing plant.

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I can remember when I was young,

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my mom, she was real good
at making clothes, too,

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so she made a lot of our clothes,

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and a lot of our clothes she got
from that manufacturing plant.

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On her second marriage,

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I remember the guy she was
married to this time, you know, uh...

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He used to take me hunting all the time.

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We used to hunt, like,
deer, and rabbit, and squirrel,

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all kind of stuff,
and, yeah, that was a lot of fun,

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but I think the most fun
I ever had was fishing.

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He taught me how to fish,
and we'd go fishing all the time.

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After a while,
fishing kind of developed into a hobby.

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I got to the point where I was just going,
like, every single day.

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[laughs]

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I had a bike that I would just ride
right down to the local bayou

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and just fish all the time,

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so that kind of developed
into a small hobby.

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I always had some kind of way
of making money.

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That's what I remember most
about my childhood.

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Man, I had to be, like,
12 years old, 13 years old,

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somewhere in there.

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I started working
at this convenience store...

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and I would go up there and work,

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make probably like a dollar a day.

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Back then,
that was a lot of money. [laughs]

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And then I had another little hustle...

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where I used to go, and, uh...

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I had a lawnmower. I used to knock
on people's doors, and, you know,

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ask who needed their yard mowed,
so I made money that way.

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When I was in high school,

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I was always making
the honor roll every year

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and every semester.

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I played football,

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I was on the track team,

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and I was on the powerlifting team.

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I used to do the field events,

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the shot put and discus,
javelin, stuff like that.

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I always did pretty good
in all those events.

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I always got, you know, first or second
in just about all the meets we went to.

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♪♪

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[groaning]

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[grunting]

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[humming]

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[labored breathing]

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[humming]

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[grunting]

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This is my trophy case.

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I don't know if you saw it
when we first came in.

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[Vlad]
I noticed it when I walked in.

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Yeah, that's the Arnold Classic
trophy right there.

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I won that "Most Muscular" thing, too.

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Mm-hmm, I won two...
I won that twice. I got two of those.

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The other one is somewhere in there.

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Yeah, all the Sandows are up there.

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[Vlad]
If you had to pick the most special year.

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- The first one, easy.
- First one?

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Yeah, 'cause Flex
was supposed to win that.

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Like I said, I got ninth the year before.

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So I was nowhere, you know,
in the running for that.

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So I was like,
"If I can finally make the top five,

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I'll be one happy camper."

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I'd never made the top five
in the Olympia.

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- Never made...
- [Vlad] You went from ninth to the first.

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Ninth to first, yeah.

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[Ronnie humming]

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I started powerlifting
when I was in high school.

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You know, we traveled all over the state,

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did meets and stuff.

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- And I wasn't that good, you know.
- [Vlad] Wasn't that good?

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No.

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No, I wasn't good at all.

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But, you know, I was...

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Those guys was...

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they were strong.

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They were squatting 500 and 600 pounds
in high school, yeah.

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I remember one time
I saw this little bitty guy,

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he was about this tall.

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He was getting on the 500, I'm like,
"No way he gonna squat that."

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Man, he got on there
and squatted like it wasn't...

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like it was like 200 pounds.

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He went down.

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I'm like, "That did not happen.
I did not just see that."

251
00:12:04,057 --> 00:12:05,267
[laughing]

252
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- [Vlad, indistinct]
- [laughing] He...

253
00:12:07,060 --> 00:12:10,355
He had to be about 15,
16 years old, something like that.

254
00:12:11,940 --> 00:12:13,150
And he was short.

255
00:12:14,276 --> 00:12:15,819
Blew my mind. [laughs]

256
00:12:15,903 --> 00:12:19,615
I can still see it today. [laughs]

257
00:12:21,241 --> 00:12:23,660
Back then, I could only do,
like, 400, you know?

258
00:12:23,744 --> 00:12:25,996
Three, four-hundred.
Three-fifty, four-hundred

259
00:12:27,331 --> 00:12:29,791
It took me a long time
to squat 800 pounds.

260
00:12:29,875 --> 00:12:35,172
I used to squat, I mean... 700,
you know, and 750, like...

261
00:12:36,340 --> 00:12:38,592
when I was in my early thirties.

262
00:12:39,176 --> 00:12:41,803
But when I got to almost 40
is when I got to 800.

263
00:12:41,887 --> 00:12:45,015
It takes time, I mean,
no matter what you do...

264
00:12:45,098 --> 00:12:47,267
and I was working out hard, too,
you know?

265
00:12:47,351 --> 00:12:49,770
- [laughs] Consistently.
- [Vlad] Consistently.

266
00:12:49,853 --> 00:12:50,771
Yeah, so no matter...

267
00:12:50,854 --> 00:12:54,274
You can't speed up the genetics,
you know, process.

268
00:12:54,358 --> 00:12:55,358
It takes time.

269
00:12:59,947 --> 00:13:03,075
♪♪

270
00:13:17,089 --> 00:13:19,466
[Shawn] Ronnie Coleman is a story
that lore is made of.

271
00:13:19,550 --> 00:13:21,861
This is a guy that lifted weights
that nobody else could lift.

272
00:13:21,885 --> 00:13:24,531
'Cause even Arnold Schwarzenegger
in Pumping Iron with Lou Ferrigno,

273
00:13:24,555 --> 00:13:27,307
it looked like they were throwing
around a lot of weight in the '70s.

274
00:13:27,391 --> 00:13:29,309
Like, wow, you know?
Here's Lou Ferrigno saying,

275
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"Put on another ten pounds."

276
00:13:30,686 --> 00:13:33,188
But, I mean,
Ronnie Coleman doesn't even warm up

277
00:13:33,272 --> 00:13:34,874
with the weights that
Lou Ferrigno was lifting,

278
00:13:34,898 --> 00:13:36,733
and he's 6'5", 280 pounds.

279
00:13:36,817 --> 00:13:39,611
Ronnie was lifting weights
that were at the far end

280
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of the rack that were dusty,

281
00:13:41,113 --> 00:13:44,366
things that nobody would even
fathom picking up,

282
00:13:44,449 --> 00:13:46,285
and he was doing it with relative ease,

283
00:13:46,368 --> 00:13:47,536
with repetitions.

284
00:13:47,619 --> 00:13:49,204
I wanted to work out with Ronnie.

285
00:13:49,288 --> 00:13:53,542
I wanted to see how intense
the champion's work ethic was.

286
00:13:53,625 --> 00:13:56,295
But, yeah, you felt like
you'd been in a physical fight

287
00:13:56,795 --> 00:13:58,005
after that workout.

288
00:13:58,505 --> 00:14:01,300
♪♪

289
00:14:09,016 --> 00:14:11,685
[Ronnie] When I went to the gym,
you know, I'd lift hard,

290
00:14:11,768 --> 00:14:13,103
I'd lift heavy.

291
00:14:13,187 --> 00:14:16,190
I'd get in there, and I wouldn't stay
in the gym no longer than an hour,

292
00:14:16,273 --> 00:14:18,984
and the whole time
I was there, you know,

293
00:14:19,067 --> 00:14:21,528
I was focused, and I think,
for the most part,

294
00:14:21,612 --> 00:14:24,281
I worked a lot of those guys, you know?

295
00:14:24,364 --> 00:14:27,034
Like I say, I trained six days a week.

296
00:14:27,117 --> 00:14:28,785
You know, I only took one day off.

297
00:14:28,869 --> 00:14:30,579
I trained Monday through Saturday.

298
00:14:30,662 --> 00:14:33,332
You know, working full-time
for the police department,

299
00:14:33,415 --> 00:14:35,542
I didn't have enough time to,
you know, like,

300
00:14:35,626 --> 00:14:37,961
break my training up,
and train a body part here

301
00:14:38,045 --> 00:14:40,047
and train a body part there,
and stuff like that

302
00:14:40,130 --> 00:14:42,925
like some of the guys would do
that didn't have jobs.

303
00:14:43,842 --> 00:14:46,178
So I'd get all my training in
in one session.

304
00:14:46,261 --> 00:14:47,655
If you can't go in a gym
and train like Ronnie Coleman,

305
00:14:47,679 --> 00:14:49,399
you don't have a chance
of looking like him.

306
00:14:49,473 --> 00:14:51,600
[Shawn] So, without having
the fear of the weights,

307
00:14:51,683 --> 00:14:53,703
and you see this guy throwing
this kind of weight around,

308
00:14:53,727 --> 00:14:55,687
you couldn't help but press rewind,

309
00:14:55,771 --> 00:14:57,248
and watch it again
and again and again.

310
00:14:57,272 --> 00:14:59,542
Suddenly, you're not even caring
that he's a freak of nature

311
00:14:59,566 --> 00:15:01,193
in terms of a bodybuilder,

312
00:15:01,276 --> 00:15:03,171
you're just looking
at this freak lift this weight.

313
00:15:03,195 --> 00:15:05,197
You know,
his mindset is just at another level.

314
00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,408
The things he'd do in videos
with that amount of weight,

315
00:15:08,492 --> 00:15:09,660
it's not normal strength.

316
00:15:09,743 --> 00:15:11,543
It's a gift from God, number one,
that he has.

317
00:15:11,578 --> 00:15:12,788
He's gifted with genetics.

318
00:15:12,871 --> 00:15:15,040
[Shawn] If you're a strong bodybuilder,

319
00:15:15,123 --> 00:15:16,851
you have
the propensity to put on more weight.

320
00:15:16,875 --> 00:15:18,752
The taller you are,
the bigger you're gonna be.

321
00:15:18,836 --> 00:15:21,338
They can eat, and they can outlift you,

322
00:15:21,421 --> 00:15:23,900
and the only thing that
we would have to rely on was our genetics.

323
00:15:23,924 --> 00:15:24,925
Flex Wheeler was...

324
00:15:25,008 --> 00:15:28,136
You can't say Flex
without saying symmetry, or genetics.

325
00:15:28,220 --> 00:15:30,222
And that's what made me who I was.

326
00:15:30,305 --> 00:15:32,599
I think Flex had
the best genetics in the world,

327
00:15:32,683 --> 00:15:35,060
but I kind of outworked him.

328
00:15:35,143 --> 00:15:37,145
You know what?
Hey, listen, sometimes, you know,

329
00:15:37,229 --> 00:15:38,909
they joke,
and they say about me, you know,

330
00:15:38,981 --> 00:15:41,400
"When God made you, He broke the mold."

331
00:15:41,483 --> 00:15:43,527
Well, when He made Ronnie,
He broke that mold, too.

332
00:15:43,610 --> 00:15:44,695
He was just a freak.

333
00:15:48,073 --> 00:15:50,909
♪♪

334
00:15:52,870 --> 00:15:54,413
Hey, Erica, how you doin'?

335
00:15:54,496 --> 00:15:57,165
Can I get you to give me a hand?

336
00:15:57,249 --> 00:15:59,084
- [Erica] Got ya.
- [Ronnie laughs]

337
00:15:59,168 --> 00:16:00,603
[Erica] You want me to drive your car?

338
00:16:00,627 --> 00:16:02,347
- You want to drive my car?
- [Erica laughs]

339
00:16:02,379 --> 00:16:04,339
- [Erica] Got you.
- [Ronnie] Thanks a lot, Erica.

340
00:16:04,423 --> 00:16:05,257
- [Ronnie] You have a good one.
- [Erica] You too.

341
00:16:05,340 --> 00:16:06,620
[Ronnie] We'll see you tomorrow.

342
00:16:07,259 --> 00:16:08,260
[clearing throat]

343
00:16:09,011 --> 00:16:13,182
One thing I want to stress about Ronnie
which really annoys me...

344
00:16:14,099 --> 00:16:18,061
People sometimes think,
because of his Louisiana drawl,

345
00:16:18,145 --> 00:16:20,230
you know, he's not very well educated,

346
00:16:20,314 --> 00:16:22,191
he's not...
maybe he's not that smart.

347
00:16:22,274 --> 00:16:23,400
He's as smart as a whip,

348
00:16:23,483 --> 00:16:25,527
and he knows exactly what he's doing.

349
00:16:25,611 --> 00:16:27,821
You never ask him a question
with him, "I don't know."

350
00:16:27,905 --> 00:16:30,449
You know, he knows what he's doing
and why he's doing it.

351
00:16:32,159 --> 00:16:35,037
♪♪

352
00:16:36,413 --> 00:16:38,040
You know, when I was in football,

353
00:16:38,123 --> 00:16:39,958
I kind of, like, walked on to the team

354
00:16:40,042 --> 00:16:42,753
and made the team,
and worked my way up to first string.

355
00:16:42,836 --> 00:16:45,506
I started out, you know, in fifth string,

356
00:16:46,006 --> 00:16:48,091
and worked my way
all the way up to first.

357
00:16:49,009 --> 00:16:51,178
I've always tried to be the very best

358
00:16:51,261 --> 00:16:53,805
at whatever it is
that I've always done.

359
00:16:53,889 --> 00:16:57,851
When I was in college, I always tried
to be the smartest guy in the class,

360
00:16:57,935 --> 00:17:00,413
and if I wasn't, then I would study
with the smartest guy, but...

361
00:17:00,437 --> 00:17:02,356
nine times out of ten I was.

362
00:17:02,439 --> 00:17:03,815
I started out in management,

363
00:17:03,899 --> 00:17:07,110
and then I stumbled upon
accounting, and I...

364
00:17:07,194 --> 00:17:09,279
I was really good at it.
You know, I was doing...

365
00:17:09,363 --> 00:17:12,616
I was making hundreds
on each and every test that I took.

366
00:17:12,699 --> 00:17:14,743
And one of my instructors said,

367
00:17:14,826 --> 00:17:16,245
"What are you majoring in?"

368
00:17:16,328 --> 00:17:17,347
and I'm like, "Management,"

369
00:17:17,371 --> 00:17:19,748
he's like, "No, dude,
you need to change that to accounting

370
00:17:19,831 --> 00:17:23,168
'cause you're, like,
acing every test that you go through."

371
00:17:23,794 --> 00:17:26,171
He said, "And I think accounting would be

372
00:17:26,255 --> 00:17:27,756
more lucrative than management."

373
00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,967
So I'm like, "Okay." [laughs]

374
00:17:30,592 --> 00:17:32,970
♪♪

375
00:17:36,765 --> 00:17:38,016
Hey, Corey, you ready, man?

376
00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:39,434
This ain't no joke.

377
00:17:39,518 --> 00:17:41,103
You gotta get that back bigger, baby.

378
00:17:41,186 --> 00:17:44,439
Yeah, buddy!
Gotta dig deep! Come on, yeah!

379
00:17:45,148 --> 00:17:47,442
[Vlad]
So after you retired professionally,

380
00:17:47,526 --> 00:17:49,778
you started a business,
your own supplement line.

381
00:17:49,862 --> 00:17:50,696
Tell me about that.

382
00:17:50,779 --> 00:17:52,698
[Ronnie] Every year,
the company has grown,

383
00:17:52,781 --> 00:17:54,366
and got bigger, and bigger, and bigger.

384
00:17:54,449 --> 00:17:56,535
And we're on our sixth year now.

385
00:17:56,952 --> 00:17:58,495
We launched in Europe and...

386
00:17:59,413 --> 00:18:01,999
the Middle East, uh, India.

387
00:18:02,708 --> 00:18:05,335
Did pretty good,
and then, like, two years later,

388
00:18:05,419 --> 00:18:06,962
we launched it here in the U.S.

389
00:18:07,045 --> 00:18:09,214
And we got to the point where we...

390
00:18:09,298 --> 00:18:12,718
started with two products,
you know, the first couple years,

391
00:18:12,801 --> 00:18:15,304
then we worked our way up to, like, four,

392
00:18:15,387 --> 00:18:17,097
then six, and then eight.

393
00:18:17,181 --> 00:18:19,641
You know, now,
we are branching out to...

394
00:18:19,725 --> 00:18:23,478
we got, like, almost 20 products now.

395
00:18:23,562 --> 00:18:26,440
We started out doing, like,
four million the first year,

396
00:18:26,523 --> 00:18:28,233
six million the year after that,

397
00:18:28,317 --> 00:18:30,944
then eight million, then ten, you know.

398
00:18:31,028 --> 00:18:33,280
And then 12, and then 15.

399
00:18:33,363 --> 00:18:35,824
So, getting bigger and better
every single year.

400
00:18:35,908 --> 00:18:38,076
Just growing it, and, you know,

401
00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,245
just seeing how far we can take it.

402
00:18:40,871 --> 00:18:43,457
I got it. [chuckles]

403
00:18:43,540 --> 00:18:45,667
- What's going on with you?
- [man] Not much.

404
00:18:45,751 --> 00:18:46,911
- You doing all right?
- Yeah.

405
00:18:48,170 --> 00:18:51,715
[sighs] Man, you know,
I ran out of the stuff again.

406
00:18:51,798 --> 00:18:53,425
I'm always running out.

407
00:18:53,509 --> 00:18:55,010
[man] Yeah, what do you need today?

408
00:18:55,093 --> 00:18:56,970
You have peanut butter, uh...

409
00:18:57,846 --> 00:18:58,931
King Whey?

410
00:18:59,765 --> 00:19:01,117
Oh, you got a big one over there, huh?

411
00:19:01,141 --> 00:19:02,741
- That's all I got.
- That's all you got?

412
00:19:02,768 --> 00:19:04,728
[man] Yeah. Go big or go home, Ronnie.

413
00:19:06,730 --> 00:19:07,981
How many you got over there?

414
00:19:08,524 --> 00:19:10,484
[man] Got enough. I've got three.

415
00:19:10,567 --> 00:19:11,652
- You got three?
- Yeah.

416
00:19:11,735 --> 00:19:12,735
Okay.

417
00:19:14,071 --> 00:19:15,864
I don't want to take
your last one, you know.

418
00:19:16,365 --> 00:19:18,033
[phone ringing]

419
00:19:22,663 --> 00:19:23,890
- [male voice] Yo.
- [Ronnie] Hey, man.

420
00:19:23,914 --> 00:19:25,666
You talk to what's his name?

421
00:19:25,749 --> 00:19:28,085
[male voice]
So, yeah. I'm emailing James right now,

422
00:19:28,168 --> 00:19:29,837
and then I copied you on the email, too.

423
00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:30,754
[Ronnie] Hey, about that shot?

424
00:19:30,838 --> 00:19:32,673
What about that shot
you was talking about?

425
00:19:32,756 --> 00:19:35,008
- The Yeah Buddy shot?
- Yeah.

426
00:19:35,092 --> 00:19:36,343
[male voice] It's not...

427
00:19:36,426 --> 00:19:38,154
We're having a problem
with one of the ingredients.

428
00:19:38,178 --> 00:19:40,178
- That one's not gonna...
- Ah, ain't that a bitch.

429
00:19:42,558 --> 00:19:44,494
Yeah, but, right now,
we're having a very good month.

430
00:19:44,518 --> 00:19:47,247
- [Ronnie] Yeah. Oh, cool.
- Just gonna bill this shit and get it out.

431
00:19:47,271 --> 00:19:48,564
[Ronnie] Oh, cool, that'll work.

432
00:19:48,647 --> 00:19:49,523
That'll work, that'll work.

433
00:19:49,606 --> 00:19:51,483
We need a damn good month.

434
00:19:51,567 --> 00:19:52,901
- All right.
- All right, dude.

435
00:19:52,985 --> 00:19:54,820
- All right, bye, later.
- Later.

436
00:19:58,991 --> 00:20:01,702
♪♪

437
00:20:03,954 --> 00:20:06,474
When I got out of college,
I started looking for jobs in accounting,

438
00:20:06,498 --> 00:20:09,835
and most of the jobs
I went on interviews,

439
00:20:09,918 --> 00:20:13,922
they all required you to have
some kind of experience.

440
00:20:14,006 --> 00:20:16,425
And, you know,
since I never worked anywhere,

441
00:20:16,508 --> 00:20:18,552
I never got a co-op job
or nothing like that

442
00:20:18,635 --> 00:20:20,012
while I was in college,

443
00:20:20,095 --> 00:20:23,765
I didn't have no experience,
so I missed out on a lot of hiring.

444
00:20:23,849 --> 00:20:27,519
So, I just took pretty much
the first thing that came along.

445
00:20:28,103 --> 00:20:31,148
The first thing that came along
was Domino's Pizza.

446
00:20:32,232 --> 00:20:35,986
I didn't like pizza after a while,
workin' for Domino's for two years.

447
00:20:36,069 --> 00:20:38,780
I remember, when I worked for Domino's,

448
00:20:38,864 --> 00:20:42,951
I was so poor I looked forward
to going to work so I can eat,

449
00:20:43,035 --> 00:20:47,706
'cause pizza was free
and I ate it every single day.

450
00:20:48,665 --> 00:20:51,752
And after a while, you know,

451
00:20:51,835 --> 00:20:54,421
about a year or so into it,

452
00:20:54,505 --> 00:20:56,585
you know, I'm like,
"Man, I'm tired of eating pizza."

453
00:20:57,799 --> 00:20:59,194
But Burger King was right next door to us,

454
00:20:59,218 --> 00:21:01,196
and I'm like, "I wonder
if they're tired of eating hamburgers."

455
00:21:01,220 --> 00:21:02,471
So I called them.

456
00:21:02,554 --> 00:21:04,681
"Hey, y'all tired of eating burgers?"

457
00:21:04,765 --> 00:21:05,682
They're like, "Yeah."

458
00:21:05,766 --> 00:21:07,309
"Y'all wanna trade?"

459
00:21:07,392 --> 00:21:09,603
They're like,
"Yeah, we want to eat pizza."

460
00:21:10,771 --> 00:21:13,524
So I would trade pizza for hamburgers.

461
00:21:14,399 --> 00:21:17,319
Then, afterwards,
I got tired of eating hamburgers,

462
00:21:17,402 --> 00:21:19,905
Kentucky Fried Chicken
was right next door to them.

463
00:21:19,988 --> 00:21:22,991
So I called them up, like,
"Hey, y'all tired of eating chicken?"

464
00:21:23,075 --> 00:21:24,284
They're like, "Yeah."

465
00:21:24,368 --> 00:21:26,036
"Y'all want to trade?"

466
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,288
But, you know, the whole time I was there

467
00:21:28,372 --> 00:21:30,040
I was looking for jobs in accounting.

468
00:21:30,123 --> 00:21:31,875
I went on a lot of interviews, you know,

469
00:21:31,959 --> 00:21:34,336
but like I said,
everybody was still saying

470
00:21:34,419 --> 00:21:36,463
I need experience and stuff, and...

471
00:21:37,631 --> 00:21:41,134
And I'm about two years into this,
and I'm like,

472
00:21:41,218 --> 00:21:43,846
"Man, I don't think it's gonna work out."

473
00:21:44,596 --> 00:21:46,515
And I noticed that...

474
00:21:46,598 --> 00:21:49,935
every time I got the newspaper,

475
00:21:50,018 --> 00:21:54,398
in the classified section
there was always a big ol' ad there

476
00:21:55,023 --> 00:21:56,942
for police officers,

477
00:21:57,818 --> 00:21:59,653
and they all said,
"No experience needed."

478
00:21:59,736 --> 00:22:00,863
[laughs]

479
00:22:00,946 --> 00:22:04,116
So, when I went to Arlington, uh...

480
00:22:05,075 --> 00:22:07,870
I had taken, like, two tests already,

481
00:22:07,953 --> 00:22:09,997
so I kind of, like, got to Arlington

482
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,840
and kind of like breezed
through the process,

483
00:22:11,874 --> 00:22:13,000
but it was a long process.

484
00:22:13,083 --> 00:22:16,753
Biggest thing was
the background check, you know?

485
00:22:16,837 --> 00:22:20,340
You had these officers,
like, two or three guys going,

486
00:22:20,424 --> 00:22:23,510
talking to everybody
that you talked to over the years.

487
00:22:23,594 --> 00:22:25,596
I still kind of, like, breezed through it

488
00:22:25,679 --> 00:22:28,765
'cause I never was in no kind of trouble.

489
00:22:28,849 --> 00:22:30,392
I always got along with people,

490
00:22:30,475 --> 00:22:32,394
and never did any kind
of drugs or nothing,

491
00:22:32,477 --> 00:22:33,729
so I kind of breezed through it

492
00:22:33,812 --> 00:22:36,773
because, you know,
I had a real clean record, you know?

493
00:22:36,857 --> 00:22:38,775
I was always trying to be the best,

494
00:22:38,859 --> 00:22:41,153
and my first year, you know,

495
00:22:41,236 --> 00:22:45,115
I was able to get rookie of the year
because I worked so hard,

496
00:22:45,199 --> 00:22:46,700
and, you know...

497
00:22:46,783 --> 00:22:49,161
And tried to be the very best
that I could at it,

498
00:22:49,244 --> 00:22:52,664
and I was able to get that award.

499
00:22:56,919 --> 00:22:58,504
[indistinct chatter]

500
00:22:58,587 --> 00:23:00,255
[woman] Girls, take a break.

501
00:23:00,339 --> 00:23:02,382
Daddy needs to record something.
Turn the water off.

502
00:23:03,050 --> 00:23:05,719
- Yippee!
- Okay, go outside.

503
00:23:08,013 --> 00:23:09,097
Oh, Lord. That's so small.

504
00:23:09,181 --> 00:23:11,099
- I know.
- Do you want to stand, or...

505
00:23:11,183 --> 00:23:12,226
Yeah, I'll stand.

506
00:23:12,976 --> 00:23:14,096
[woman] For me, he's perfect

507
00:23:14,144 --> 00:23:16,122
'cause he does what he wants to do
and I do what I want to do,

508
00:23:16,146 --> 00:23:19,816
and at the end of the day,
together, we come home,

509
00:23:19,900 --> 00:23:22,861
and we all, you know,
have family time,

510
00:23:22,945 --> 00:23:24,655
and we don't get in each other's way.

511
00:23:24,738 --> 00:23:26,657
At the same time, we work together.

512
00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:28,951
Okay, can you read it from here?

513
00:23:29,660 --> 00:23:30,744
Yeah, yeah. I see it.

514
00:23:30,827 --> 00:23:31,995
- You ready?
- Yeah.

515
00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:33,163
[phone bleeps]

516
00:23:33,247 --> 00:23:34,831
Hey, guys. Big Ron here.

517
00:23:34,915 --> 00:23:36,333
Just want to let you guys know...

518
00:23:36,416 --> 00:23:39,711
[Susan] We met at his show,
the Ronnie Coleman Classic.

519
00:23:39,795 --> 00:23:43,674
A friend knew him, and said,
"can meet up with him afterwards."

520
00:23:43,757 --> 00:23:45,884
A big group of us,
all together afterwards,

521
00:23:45,968 --> 00:23:48,512
and we all ended up staying till...

522
00:23:48,595 --> 00:23:50,931
up till 5:00 a.m., talking.

523
00:23:51,014 --> 00:23:53,475
Yup. And at the end,
we exchanged phone numbers.

524
00:23:53,559 --> 00:23:55,018
Mm-hmm.

525
00:23:55,102 --> 00:23:58,021
Let's all make some gains together.
Yeah, buddy. [chuckles]

526
00:23:58,105 --> 00:23:59,106
[phone bleeps]

527
00:23:59,189 --> 00:24:01,525
- No.
- [both laugh]

528
00:24:01,608 --> 00:24:04,069
- Try again.
- [Ronnie] Okay.

529
00:24:04,152 --> 00:24:09,074
Follow the link below
to check out our official website.

530
00:24:09,157 --> 00:24:10,701
Let's all make some gains together.

531
00:24:10,784 --> 00:24:11,910
Yeah, buddy.

532
00:24:11,994 --> 00:24:13,328
Hold on, let me see this.

533
00:24:13,996 --> 00:24:15,455
You going, "Oh, man."

534
00:24:17,207 --> 00:24:20,335
Oh, wow. Where's my keys for my car?

535
00:24:24,548 --> 00:24:26,925
[clattering]

536
00:24:33,932 --> 00:24:38,020
I've always been real fond of kids,
when I was in high school and college.

537
00:24:38,103 --> 00:24:39,223
Had my first one in college.

538
00:24:40,439 --> 00:24:42,733
I got my 32, and 33-year-old.

539
00:24:42,816 --> 00:24:46,904
You know, my 32 is in Houston.

540
00:24:46,987 --> 00:24:49,865
Actually,
I have a granddaughter, too, with her.

541
00:24:49,948 --> 00:24:52,618
And Susan has two kids, uh...

542
00:24:53,535 --> 00:24:56,371
15 and 13.

543
00:24:56,455 --> 00:25:00,375
And then me and Susan
have the four together here.

544
00:25:00,459 --> 00:25:02,836
- [woman] Who's that?
- Sophie, mami.

545
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,338
[woman] She's a little "ah!"

546
00:25:05,422 --> 00:25:07,466
[Ronnie]
Sophie, give me kiss, kiss, kiss?

547
00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:10,010
Mwah! Thank you. [chuckles]

548
00:25:10,093 --> 00:25:11,178
Huh?

549
00:25:13,972 --> 00:25:15,015
Laila!

550
00:25:16,517 --> 00:25:18,101
Hey, girl! How you doin'?

551
00:25:18,185 --> 00:25:19,269
You doin' all right?

552
00:25:19,770 --> 00:25:21,980
Can I have a kiss? Dada get a kiss?

553
00:25:23,941 --> 00:25:25,484
Mwah! Thank you!

554
00:25:25,567 --> 00:25:27,277
- Ready to go?
- [Laila] Ready! Ready!

555
00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:30,155
[Ronnie] You okay, Sophie?

556
00:25:30,239 --> 00:25:32,282
You all right, mami? What happened?

557
00:25:32,366 --> 00:25:35,035
- Did you hit your shoulder?
- [Laila] She bumped her head.

558
00:25:35,118 --> 00:25:36,286
[Ronnie] She bumped her head?

559
00:25:36,828 --> 00:25:38,330
- Yeah.
- [Sophie yells]

560
00:25:41,875 --> 00:25:44,378
[Ronnie chuckles]
What are you looking at, Laila?

561
00:25:45,337 --> 00:25:46,421
- [Laila] Daddy!
- Yeah?

562
00:25:46,505 --> 00:25:48,757
- Over here.
- What's over here?

563
00:25:50,467 --> 00:25:51,844
- [Laila] Car!
- Yup.

564
00:25:52,803 --> 00:25:55,681
[Ronnie] Laila, didn't you have
a jacket on this morning?

565
00:25:56,223 --> 00:25:57,223
Laila?

566
00:25:58,141 --> 00:26:00,662
Laila, where's your jacket?
Did you have a jacket on this morning?

567
00:26:00,686 --> 00:26:02,771
- No.
- You didn't? Are you sure?

568
00:26:02,855 --> 00:26:04,022
[Laila] No.

569
00:26:04,690 --> 00:26:06,483
I think you did have one on.

570
00:26:08,151 --> 00:26:09,319
Yeah, we got four together.

571
00:26:09,403 --> 00:26:12,406
So we got a three-year-old.
She's adorable.

572
00:26:12,489 --> 00:26:15,576
They're not... She's not into any sports
or anything right now.

573
00:26:15,659 --> 00:26:17,077
She's doing her own thing.

574
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,370
The four-year-old, same thing,

575
00:26:18,453 --> 00:26:22,165
she's not into any sports or anything.

576
00:26:22,249 --> 00:26:23,166
Just doing the kid thing.

577
00:26:23,250 --> 00:26:26,086
And I'm not trying to rush 'em.

578
00:26:26,170 --> 00:26:29,298
- A-ha! Did I scare you?
- Daddy.

579
00:26:29,381 --> 00:26:30,632
Daddy! I scared ya?

580
00:26:31,216 --> 00:26:32,759
- You okay?
- Yeah.

581
00:26:32,843 --> 00:26:33,843
Give me kiss.

582
00:26:34,428 --> 00:26:35,804
Mwah! Thank you!

583
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,227
For the most part, I pick up the, uh...

584
00:26:42,311 --> 00:26:45,397
three and four-year-old
every single day from school.

585
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,356
[horn honking]

586
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,902
- Laila, you're blowing the horn, mami.
- Daddy.

587
00:26:54,156 --> 00:26:55,407
[Laila] Daddy, where is it?

588
00:26:55,490 --> 00:26:57,117
- In the sink.
- In the sink.

589
00:26:57,201 --> 00:26:58,285
[Ronnie] Mm-hmm.

590
00:26:58,368 --> 00:27:00,412
[indistinct chatter]

591
00:27:01,246 --> 00:27:04,124
Daddy, can we take this off?

592
00:27:05,459 --> 00:27:06,335
Mm-hmm.

593
00:27:06,418 --> 00:27:07,294
You want to take it off?

594
00:27:07,377 --> 00:27:08,629
Yes, Daddy.

595
00:27:08,712 --> 00:27:09,712
Okay, hold on.

596
00:27:11,590 --> 00:27:14,009
Aw! Daddy!

597
00:27:14,843 --> 00:27:17,137
- Hmm?
- I want to take it off.

598
00:27:17,221 --> 00:27:20,974
[Ronnie] Man, it seems like
their energy level is endless.

599
00:27:21,058 --> 00:27:22,309
I mean, they're always going.

600
00:27:22,392 --> 00:27:25,312
Even when I get 'em home,

601
00:27:25,395 --> 00:27:28,982
it takes another two hours
to wind 'em down

602
00:27:29,066 --> 00:27:30,067
to get 'em into bed.

603
00:27:30,150 --> 00:27:32,736
And sometimes they don't even fall asleep.

604
00:27:32,819 --> 00:27:36,949
They up watching TV and stuff.
It keeps us pretty busy.

605
00:27:37,783 --> 00:27:39,034
[Laila] Sorry, Daddy.

606
00:27:39,618 --> 00:27:40,618
Uh-oh!

607
00:27:51,296 --> 00:27:52,296
Oh, wow.

608
00:27:52,339 --> 00:27:54,967
I always mix up a King Whey shake,

609
00:27:55,592 --> 00:27:59,763
and then I take this Yeah Buddy
pre-workout before I train.

610
00:27:59,847 --> 00:28:02,432
And I take the Stacked-N.O. along with it,

611
00:28:02,516 --> 00:28:04,685
and take a couple...

612
00:28:04,768 --> 00:28:07,688
maybe a multivitamin
and vitamin C with it.

613
00:28:10,858 --> 00:28:13,277
[rattling]

614
00:28:14,027 --> 00:28:16,113
[Vlad]
How much pain do you feel every day

615
00:28:16,196 --> 00:28:17,823
on a scale of one to ten?

616
00:28:17,906 --> 00:28:19,575
[Ronnie] Uh, nine, ten.

617
00:28:19,658 --> 00:28:20,993
Yeah, it's pretty heavy.

618
00:28:21,743 --> 00:28:26,790
When I do appearances,
my pain level goes up to, like, a 12, 13.

619
00:28:27,541 --> 00:28:28,792
Some was unbearable.

620
00:28:30,586 --> 00:28:32,379
Some was unbearable.

621
00:28:33,922 --> 00:28:35,257
If I'm in a whole lot of pain,

622
00:28:35,340 --> 00:28:37,593
I'll just sit,
and just do the appearance...

623
00:28:38,677 --> 00:28:40,429
and have people take pictures.

624
00:28:41,263 --> 00:28:43,974
But for the most part, you know,
I always try to stand up.

625
00:28:44,850 --> 00:28:48,187
I've been in pain for so long now,
I'm just used to it.

626
00:28:50,856 --> 00:28:52,524
I take the pills, too.

627
00:28:52,608 --> 00:28:53,942
Helps it a little bit.

628
00:28:56,195 --> 00:28:57,654
Like I said, I take about...

629
00:28:58,906 --> 00:29:02,326
four, sometimes five a day,
every single day.

630
00:29:03,702 --> 00:29:09,166
They're called oxycodone,
these pills right here.

631
00:29:10,125 --> 00:29:11,960
I even keep 'em with me.

632
00:29:12,044 --> 00:29:13,587
They're 30 milligrams.

633
00:29:14,505 --> 00:29:16,340
And, uh, they work... [thud]

634
00:29:16,423 --> 00:29:17,674
They work pretty good.

635
00:29:17,758 --> 00:29:19,301
This is the highest, uh...

636
00:29:19,968 --> 00:29:21,470
The highest, uh...

637
00:29:22,846 --> 00:29:26,475
potency you can get
is 30 milligrams.

638
00:29:27,726 --> 00:29:29,603
So it eases the pain up a little bit...

639
00:29:33,690 --> 00:29:36,318
for about three or four hours.

640
00:29:39,738 --> 00:29:40,989
And then it comes right back.

641
00:29:41,073 --> 00:29:42,241
[chuckles]

642
00:29:43,158 --> 00:29:44,576
Then I take another one.

643
00:29:45,202 --> 00:29:47,454
♪♪

644
00:30:20,487 --> 00:30:22,739
[sniffling]

645
00:30:22,823 --> 00:30:25,325
[keys jingling]

646
00:30:25,409 --> 00:30:27,786
♪♪

647
00:30:39,381 --> 00:30:40,381
Whoa.

648
00:30:47,848 --> 00:30:49,683
[Ronnie mumbling]

649
00:30:53,437 --> 00:30:54,813
[Ronnie grunts]

650
00:30:55,981 --> 00:30:57,858
Oh, ow.

651
00:30:59,860 --> 00:31:00,860
[sighs]

652
00:31:04,615 --> 00:31:06,283
- How's it going?
- [Big J] Good.

653
00:31:07,201 --> 00:31:08,410
Been busy?

654
00:31:09,328 --> 00:31:10,537
[Big J] Today, not really.

655
00:31:11,163 --> 00:31:13,643
[Vlad] How did you decide to become
a professional bodybuilder?

656
00:31:16,502 --> 00:31:19,630
After I graduated from the academy,

657
00:31:19,713 --> 00:31:21,840
and they cut you loose on the street,

658
00:31:21,924 --> 00:31:23,844
one of the guys saw me
on one of the calls, like,

659
00:31:23,884 --> 00:31:26,261
"Man, you're a pretty big guy.
Where do you work out at?"

660
00:31:26,345 --> 00:31:29,097
I told him, "Man, I work out
at the station, where it's free."

661
00:31:29,181 --> 00:31:31,058
[chuckles]

662
00:31:31,141 --> 00:31:33,286
He said, "You ought to come over to
Metroflex, the gym I work out at."

663
00:31:33,310 --> 00:31:34,311
So I go, "okay."

664
00:31:34,394 --> 00:31:37,523
So I go to Metroflex and Brian is there.

665
00:31:37,606 --> 00:31:39,334
My name is Brian Dobson.
I'm the owner and operator

666
00:31:39,358 --> 00:31:40,359
of Metroflex Gym.

667
00:31:40,442 --> 00:31:41,860
We're here in Arlington, Texas.

668
00:31:41,944 --> 00:31:44,029
Brian is the guy that got me
into bodybuilding.

669
00:31:44,112 --> 00:31:46,657
A friend of mine
brought me to this gym.

670
00:31:46,740 --> 00:31:50,285
Brian was insistent
upon me bodybuilding,

671
00:31:50,369 --> 00:31:52,009
and told me I could do good in the sport.

672
00:31:52,538 --> 00:31:54,790
Finally told me that he'd
get me a free membership,

673
00:31:54,873 --> 00:31:56,500
and I said, "Oh, what the heck?"

674
00:31:56,583 --> 00:31:58,377
Brian Dobson.
I'm the owner of Metroflex Gym.

675
00:31:58,460 --> 00:32:00,254
Been here since 1987.

676
00:32:00,337 --> 00:32:01,898
I mean, you know,
we get new equipment here and there,

677
00:32:01,922 --> 00:32:03,841
but pretty much stays the same, man.

678
00:32:03,924 --> 00:32:06,093
We believe in the old-school ways.

679
00:32:06,176 --> 00:32:08,095
Our training methods here are hard.

680
00:32:08,178 --> 00:32:10,264
We get criticized a lot for that.

681
00:32:10,347 --> 00:32:14,017
He trained in a dungeon-type gym. Uh...

682
00:32:14,101 --> 00:32:16,311
In my terms,
it would be labeled as a shithole.

683
00:32:16,395 --> 00:32:18,939
♪♪

684
00:32:21,817 --> 00:32:24,778
Rusty weights,
and very dusty, and whatever.

685
00:32:24,862 --> 00:32:27,322
But that's where he trained
because he loved to train.

686
00:32:27,406 --> 00:32:28,740
[chuckles]

687
00:32:28,824 --> 00:32:30,492
Yes, that place is a trip.

688
00:32:30,576 --> 00:32:32,512
I mean, I was from California.
We got the ocean breeze

689
00:32:32,536 --> 00:32:34,955
coming in through Gold's in Venice,

690
00:32:35,038 --> 00:32:37,082
and I wasn't accustomed
to all the heat.

691
00:32:37,165 --> 00:32:39,060
You know, a hundred-something
degrees in the gym.

692
00:32:39,084 --> 00:32:41,628
I don't know how they do it,
but they do it.

693
00:32:41,712 --> 00:32:43,338
It's hot as hell in there.

694
00:32:46,842 --> 00:32:49,136
♪♪

695
00:33:01,690 --> 00:33:03,293
[Brian] As soon as he walked in,
I knew who it was.

696
00:33:03,317 --> 00:33:05,444
He had the red sweatshirt on,

697
00:33:05,527 --> 00:33:08,197
and you could see the veins,
like, you know,

698
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,115
bulging through this thing. [chuckles]

699
00:33:10,199 --> 00:33:13,452
And, of course, I was used to
being around champion bodybuilders,

700
00:33:13,535 --> 00:33:15,454
but I don't think I'd ever seen that yet.

701
00:33:16,455 --> 00:33:19,958
Brian kind of took me under his wing,

702
00:33:20,042 --> 00:33:21,710
and taught me all the poses and stuff.

703
00:33:21,793 --> 00:33:24,379
And then he would go over,
you know, like, diet and stuff

704
00:33:24,463 --> 00:33:26,548
and tell me what I needed to eat.

705
00:33:29,134 --> 00:33:31,029
The thing that separated him,
of course, was just,

706
00:33:31,053 --> 00:33:33,805
his work ethic
from the very start has been supreme.

707
00:33:33,889 --> 00:33:34,889
Never...

708
00:33:34,932 --> 00:33:36,808
He was never one of
them guys you had to push.

709
00:33:36,892 --> 00:33:40,312
My first show,
I went in, won first in overall.

710
00:33:40,395 --> 00:33:42,105
And I'm like, "Whoa.

711
00:33:42,189 --> 00:33:44,107
I can probably be pretty good at this."

712
00:33:44,191 --> 00:33:46,652
♪♪

713
00:34:03,210 --> 00:34:05,879
[grunting]

714
00:34:05,963 --> 00:34:08,549
♪♪

715
00:34:12,219 --> 00:34:13,679
[sighs]

716
00:34:18,642 --> 00:34:20,435
When I was in high school,

717
00:34:20,519 --> 00:34:23,230
the gym I worked out
was like Metroflex.

718
00:34:23,313 --> 00:34:26,775
When I was in college, the gym
I worked out at was like Metroflex.

719
00:34:27,317 --> 00:34:29,403
So I got accustomed
to working out at a gym

720
00:34:29,486 --> 00:34:32,239
that had no A/C,
there's dirt on the floor,

721
00:34:32,322 --> 00:34:33,448
there was no carpet.

722
00:34:34,992 --> 00:34:37,703
And I kind of, like,
fell in love with that type of gym.

723
00:34:38,370 --> 00:34:40,205
You know,
you get used to a certain thing,

724
00:34:40,289 --> 00:34:42,416
you just don't want to change

725
00:34:42,499 --> 00:34:45,961
'cause that's kind of like
what's worked for you...

726
00:34:46,044 --> 00:34:47,588
your whole life.

727
00:34:48,213 --> 00:34:49,590
And you fall in love with it,

728
00:34:49,673 --> 00:34:51,675
and that's what you want to do.

729
00:34:51,758 --> 00:34:53,802
And that's what Metroflex is,

730
00:34:54,553 --> 00:34:57,723
and that's what it's been
for me all my life.

731
00:34:57,806 --> 00:35:03,645
It's what I'm accustomed to doing,
and it's what made me successful.

732
00:35:03,729 --> 00:35:05,022
So...

733
00:35:06,106 --> 00:35:08,192
Like they say, if it ain't...

734
00:35:08,275 --> 00:35:11,361
if it ain't broke, then, you know,

735
00:35:11,445 --> 00:35:13,322
you ain't got nothing to fix there.

736
00:35:14,114 --> 00:35:16,366
♪♪

737
00:35:23,498 --> 00:35:25,542
I knew he could be
Mr. Olympia one day.

738
00:35:25,626 --> 00:35:27,753
There's no man
who trains harder anywhere.

739
00:35:27,836 --> 00:35:30,547
I truly believe that
if Ronnie put his mind to it,

740
00:35:30,631 --> 00:35:32,551
he could set the all-time
record in powerlifting,

741
00:35:33,509 --> 00:35:35,487
and not only be the greatest
bodybuilder of all time,

742
00:35:35,511 --> 00:35:37,679
but the greatest powerlifter
of all time, also.

743
00:35:37,763 --> 00:35:41,600
I think Ronnie could be Mr. Olympia till
he's 45, 50 years old if he wanted to be.

744
00:35:41,683 --> 00:35:42,518
[laughing]

745
00:35:42,601 --> 00:35:45,270
[Ronnie] Uh, this is 2000, I'm still here.

746
00:35:45,354 --> 00:35:48,357
I've been here for almost 11, 12 years.

747
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,834
Been the happiest times of my life,

748
00:35:49,858 --> 00:35:53,403
and I kind of, like, hope Brian's been
kind of happy with me being here.

749
00:35:53,487 --> 00:35:56,240
- Hell yeah.
- [both laugh]

750
00:35:56,323 --> 00:35:58,092
I mean, Brian's kind of like,
you know, an angel to me

751
00:35:58,116 --> 00:36:00,244
because, you know,
I've been working out now

752
00:36:00,327 --> 00:36:01,537
for about 25 years.

753
00:36:01,620 --> 00:36:03,580
And when I first walked
through that door,

754
00:36:03,664 --> 00:36:05,344
Brian had told me
I could be a world champ.

755
00:36:05,374 --> 00:36:09,503
And he stuck by his belief
and his feeling toward me.

756
00:36:10,212 --> 00:36:11,964
It's kind of like
we got a bond here.

757
00:36:12,047 --> 00:36:15,092
So, I think we're
kind of like a family.

758
00:36:16,051 --> 00:36:18,720
♪♪

759
00:36:18,804 --> 00:36:20,389
I didn't do this thing all by myself.

760
00:36:20,472 --> 00:36:21,557
I had some help.

761
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,977
And right here is my angel,
Brian Dobson.

762
00:36:25,060 --> 00:36:26,270
Thank you, brother.

763
00:36:26,854 --> 00:36:29,940
♪♪

764
00:36:33,527 --> 00:36:35,529
[Shawn] One of the stories
that stands out to me

765
00:36:35,612 --> 00:36:38,615
goes all the way back to 1992,
Helsinki, Finland.

766
00:36:38,699 --> 00:36:41,451
I believe that was
Ronnie Coleman's first Mr. Olympia.

767
00:36:41,535 --> 00:36:44,580
He and I were one of the last
at the baggage claim,

768
00:36:44,663 --> 00:36:46,206
and I thought, "What's he doing here?"

769
00:36:46,290 --> 00:36:47,833
Like, "Who is he here with?"

770
00:36:47,916 --> 00:36:50,520
I didn't know that he was actually there
to compete in the competition.

771
00:36:50,544 --> 00:36:52,713
And lo and behold,
by the time the show was going on,

772
00:36:52,796 --> 00:36:54,756
he was backstage warming up,

773
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,259
and he obviously was a work in progress.

774
00:36:57,342 --> 00:36:59,636
I believe he got dead last
in that competition.

775
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:01,638
♪♪

776
00:37:01,722 --> 00:37:04,683
When it comes to Ronnie Coleman,
he was so far back in the pack

777
00:37:04,766 --> 00:37:08,228
in my economy of a great bodybuilder.

778
00:37:08,812 --> 00:37:11,231
You gotta remember,
I came up behind Lee Haney,

779
00:37:11,315 --> 00:37:12,816
and behind Dorian Yates,

780
00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:14,586
and with Flex, and with Kevin
and with Nasser,

781
00:37:14,610 --> 00:37:18,614
and those were the guys
that made the fabric of the Mr. Olympia.

782
00:37:18,697 --> 00:37:22,242
So every time I looked at someone
to measure where I stood,

783
00:37:22,326 --> 00:37:24,536
it was never at Ronnie Coleman.

784
00:37:24,620 --> 00:37:27,497
Ronnie, on a competitive level,
you just never thought about him.

785
00:37:27,581 --> 00:37:29,917
Going into competitions, you know,
he was nowhere close.

786
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,728
If I was in the first call-out,
he was probably, like,

787
00:37:31,752 --> 00:37:32,896
in the third or fourth, if that.

788
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,963
He was placing, you know,

789
00:37:35,047 --> 00:37:36,566
in the back of the pack
a lot of the times.

790
00:37:36,590 --> 00:37:38,675
I didn't even get a call-out, you know.

791
00:37:40,219 --> 00:37:45,849
I didn't think I could be, like,
with the top guys anyway, so...

792
00:37:45,933 --> 00:37:48,227
So I didn't even qualify
for the Olympia '93.

793
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:50,020
So I went to Olympia '94

794
00:37:50,103 --> 00:37:53,357
and placed 15th, 16th, somewhere in there.

795
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,610
But at least they called me out
and compared me to the other guys.

796
00:37:56,693 --> 00:38:00,531
So 1995 rolls around
and I went to Olympia that year

797
00:38:00,614 --> 00:38:03,158
and I think I placed, like,
11th, somewhere in there,

798
00:38:03,242 --> 00:38:04,660
12th, somewhere in there.

799
00:38:04,743 --> 00:38:06,995
So, you know, I'm moving up in placing,

800
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:08,956
I'm doing a bit better, you know.

801
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:10,832
In '96, I did pretty good in Olympia.

802
00:38:10,916 --> 00:38:14,044
I ended up in, like,
seventh place that year.

803
00:38:14,127 --> 00:38:16,797
So things are getting better
and better every year.

804
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,634
'97 rolls around,
and that year at the Olympia,

805
00:38:20,717 --> 00:38:22,719
I got ninth, you know.

806
00:38:23,387 --> 00:38:25,722
I started noticing, you know,
this is the first year

807
00:38:25,806 --> 00:38:27,766
and the second year, same thing.

808
00:38:27,850 --> 00:38:29,142
Third year, same thing.

809
00:38:29,226 --> 00:38:31,645
So Ronnie would be on the road
with Vickie Gates,

810
00:38:31,728 --> 00:38:33,397
and just carrying his food.

811
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,565
We're talking about...

812
00:38:34,648 --> 00:38:39,278
You gotta go from Spain
to compete in Italy, and, you know.

813
00:38:39,361 --> 00:38:41,405
So he's got
this whole thing mapped out.

814
00:38:41,488 --> 00:38:44,157
He's taking trains, you know.
We're flying and stuff.

815
00:38:44,741 --> 00:38:46,827
And I'm like,
"Dude, why do you keep doing this?"

816
00:38:46,910 --> 00:38:49,454
I felt like saying,
"Why are you wasting your time?"

817
00:38:49,538 --> 00:38:50,849
I was like,
"Man, what are you doing?

818
00:38:50,873 --> 00:38:53,375
I mean, I wouldn't even do this
if I'm not winning.

819
00:38:53,876 --> 00:38:56,461
That's my approach,
'cause I'm out there to win.

820
00:38:57,254 --> 00:38:59,798
And Ronnie looked at me
and he says,

821
00:38:59,882 --> 00:39:02,718
"Because I love doing it.
I mean, I love bodybuilding."

822
00:39:03,594 --> 00:39:04,988
He said, "Man, I love bodybuilding."

823
00:39:05,012 --> 00:39:06,471
You know, when he said it like that,

824
00:39:07,139 --> 00:39:10,058
I was like,
"Damn, yeah. You must really love it."

825
00:39:10,142 --> 00:39:11,435
You know?

826
00:39:11,518 --> 00:39:13,770
I can remember it like it was yesterday.

827
00:39:13,854 --> 00:39:15,772
They finally let me in the Arnold Classic.

828
00:39:16,481 --> 00:39:19,943
The show before the Arnold
was the Ironman,

829
00:39:20,027 --> 00:39:23,071
and I ended up in, like,
third place, I think.

830
00:39:23,155 --> 00:39:25,574
But the guy who won the show
was Lee Priest.

831
00:39:25,657 --> 00:39:26,825
I'm like, "Man..."

832
00:39:28,785 --> 00:39:30,162
"How did he beat me?"

833
00:39:30,245 --> 00:39:33,081
You know, Lee about this tall. [chuckles]

834
00:39:34,333 --> 00:39:36,710
I'm like, "I don't know
if this the sport for me."

835
00:39:36,793 --> 00:39:41,131
So I'm at the Arnold Classic
and I remember, after the prejudge,

836
00:39:41,215 --> 00:39:43,258
I went back to my room
and I, like...

837
00:39:44,468 --> 00:39:47,068
My girlfriend at the time was Vickie...
a girl named Vickie Gates.

838
00:39:47,137 --> 00:39:48,847
She was competing in the show, too.

839
00:39:48,931 --> 00:39:51,767
I was like, "Vickie, I think I'm done
with this bodybuilding stuff.

840
00:39:52,643 --> 00:39:55,437
They letting guys like Lee Priest beat me.

841
00:39:56,355 --> 00:39:58,232
I don't think this is for me."

842
00:39:58,315 --> 00:40:00,651
She's like,
"Boy, shut up. You ain't gonna quit."

843
00:40:01,485 --> 00:40:03,820
And I thought about it.
I'm like, "You know what?

844
00:40:03,904 --> 00:40:07,324
If I do quit, I might lose
my free membership to the gym, so...

845
00:40:08,367 --> 00:40:11,662
I think I am gonna hang around here
for a little while longer."

846
00:40:16,667 --> 00:40:19,378
I've always had back issues
from my high school days.

847
00:40:19,461 --> 00:40:21,964
I hurt my back in high school.
I hurt my back in college.

848
00:40:22,047 --> 00:40:23,447
One day, out on the football field,

849
00:40:23,507 --> 00:40:26,009
something snapped
and I went to the chiropractor,

850
00:40:26,093 --> 00:40:28,637
and I've been going to the chiropractor
ever since then.

851
00:40:29,763 --> 00:40:31,598
[doctor] We're going to, uh,

852
00:40:31,682 --> 00:40:34,893
utilize the Apollo cold laser here.

853
00:40:35,644 --> 00:40:40,357
With different types of laser therapies,
of course we want to protect the eyes.

854
00:40:41,316 --> 00:40:44,069
The cold laser therapy...

855
00:40:44,903 --> 00:40:47,447
is a slower laser therapy

856
00:40:47,531 --> 00:40:51,451
that is utilized
for musculoskeletal injuries.

857
00:40:53,662 --> 00:40:56,415
We're putting this on Ron's muscles here,

858
00:40:56,498 --> 00:40:59,376
on the lateral aspect
of the paralumbars,

859
00:40:59,459 --> 00:41:01,253
and then we're gonna
work our way down...

860
00:41:01,879 --> 00:41:04,381
into the sacroiliac joint.

861
00:41:05,090 --> 00:41:08,635
Ronnie had injured his back, I believe,
when he was doing a squat.

862
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,137
[chuckles]

863
00:41:10,220 --> 00:41:14,266
Yeah, it was painful, you know,
to have a disc just pop out.

864
00:41:14,349 --> 00:41:16,935
I was getting ready for
the Arnold Classic at this time.

865
00:41:17,019 --> 00:41:19,021
It was December 1996.

866
00:41:19,104 --> 00:41:22,983
Squatting 600 pounds and, you know,
600 pounds for me is like nothing.

867
00:41:23,066 --> 00:41:24,961
I always do, like, you know,
12 to 15 reps with that,

868
00:41:24,985 --> 00:41:27,321
and I was coming up
on rep number eight

869
00:41:27,404 --> 00:41:29,698
and "pow,"
the disc just popped out.

870
00:41:29,781 --> 00:41:30,842
And I didn't know
what had happened, you know?

871
00:41:30,866 --> 00:41:31,992
I just heard a loud pop.

872
00:41:32,075 --> 00:41:34,161
I thought the guy, actually,
that was spotting me

873
00:41:34,244 --> 00:41:35,680
had hit me to get me fired up,
you know, for the set.

874
00:41:35,704 --> 00:41:37,504
But he told me,
"No, man, I didn't touch you."

875
00:41:37,539 --> 00:41:38,850
I'm like, "What was that loud sound?"

876
00:41:38,874 --> 00:41:40,375
He's like, "I don't know."

877
00:41:40,459 --> 00:41:42,878
I'm like, "I don't know either,
but I'm done with squats."

878
00:41:42,961 --> 00:41:45,130
So I went on over and did leg press,

879
00:41:45,214 --> 00:41:48,800
I did my hamstrings,
a couple exercises.

880
00:41:48,884 --> 00:41:51,470
Came home and I ate,
took a shower,

881
00:41:51,553 --> 00:41:53,305
put on my uniform to go to work,

882
00:41:53,388 --> 00:41:55,390
and I'm like,
"Wait a minute, I'm feeling pain."

883
00:41:55,474 --> 00:41:56,892
And I'm like,

884
00:41:56,975 --> 00:41:58,894
"Should I make this right turn
and go to work,

885
00:41:58,977 --> 00:42:01,230
or should I make this left turn
and go to the hospital?"

886
00:42:01,939 --> 00:42:04,483
So I made the left turn
and went to the hospital,

887
00:42:04,566 --> 00:42:07,110
and found out, you know,
I had a herniated disc.

888
00:42:07,194 --> 00:42:09,404
♪♪

889
00:42:13,242 --> 00:42:16,286
[Vlad] Have you ever recommended
for Ronnie to stop lifting so heavy?

890
00:42:16,912 --> 00:42:18,956
Yeah. [laughs]

891
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:20,791
I sure did.

892
00:42:20,874 --> 00:42:24,461
You know, Ronnie, he had a goal in view.

893
00:42:25,087 --> 00:42:27,881
He wanted to be the number one
bodybuilder in the world.

894
00:42:27,965 --> 00:42:29,466
But, of course, eventually,

895
00:42:29,550 --> 00:42:31,110
with the massive weights
that he was lifting,

896
00:42:31,134 --> 00:42:32,970
those discs can, many, many times,

897
00:42:33,053 --> 00:42:34,429
pay a pretty heavy price.

898
00:42:34,972 --> 00:42:37,683
[Shawn]
Bodybuilding, on the surface, is, again,

899
00:42:37,766 --> 00:42:41,854
it's a great way
to build confidence, relationships,

900
00:42:41,937 --> 00:42:43,772
um, overcome fears...

901
00:42:43,856 --> 00:42:45,482
But it comes at a price for some.

902
00:42:45,566 --> 00:42:47,734
Ronnie trained hard,
but did he train smart?

903
00:42:47,818 --> 00:42:51,280
That was the only thing
that I questioned, especially now...

904
00:42:51,363 --> 00:42:53,740
seeing Ronnie with injuries
and everything else.

905
00:42:53,824 --> 00:42:57,536
Through time, I've wished
I'd known what I know now,

906
00:42:57,619 --> 00:43:01,582
because I still think
that you could train...

907
00:43:02,666 --> 00:43:04,793
not as heavy,
but train your body to failure,

908
00:43:04,877 --> 00:43:07,754
or train your body to,
you know, gain lean muscle mass,

909
00:43:07,838 --> 00:43:09,607
and not have to train where
you're gonna get injured.

910
00:43:09,631 --> 00:43:14,011
I think someone like myself
or even like Ronnie Coleman,

911
00:43:14,094 --> 00:43:17,014
we were just training
pedal to the metal.

912
00:43:17,097 --> 00:43:18,640
It didn't matter, and we didn't think,

913
00:43:18,724 --> 00:43:20,952
"Oh, we're gonna get injured doing this."
We just did it.

914
00:43:20,976 --> 00:43:23,562
To get to that level,
you have to train like that.

915
00:43:23,645 --> 00:43:25,898
You know,
Ronnie had enormous amounts of size,

916
00:43:25,981 --> 00:43:27,608
and the quality of the muscle.

917
00:43:27,691 --> 00:43:30,777
You know, that can't be done
through just sitting there,

918
00:43:30,861 --> 00:43:33,989
pumping 25, 30, or 40-pound dumbbells.

919
00:43:34,531 --> 00:43:38,452
He put the workload on his muscles
to make them get to a level

920
00:43:38,535 --> 00:43:40,078
to where there were deep cuts

921
00:43:40,162 --> 00:43:41,562
and deep striations, and hard work.

922
00:43:42,414 --> 00:43:45,125
You know, and that's what
his body prevailed.

923
00:43:45,209 --> 00:43:46,502
You saw that.

924
00:43:46,585 --> 00:43:49,755
You know, so if you're not
willing to go to that place where...

925
00:43:50,964 --> 00:43:53,425
where he is going to,
and train like that,

926
00:43:53,509 --> 00:43:55,219
and withstand that,
and live like that,

927
00:43:55,302 --> 00:43:57,471
and do that, and do that,
and do that,

928
00:43:57,554 --> 00:43:58,865
you don't have a chance against him.

929
00:43:58,889 --> 00:44:01,016
[announcer] Woo-hoo!

930
00:44:02,017 --> 00:44:03,727
Whoa, baby!

931
00:44:03,810 --> 00:44:06,855
♪♪

932
00:44:07,814 --> 00:44:10,275
[Ronnie] Lightweight, baby!

933
00:44:11,193 --> 00:44:12,653
Yeah!

934
00:44:13,487 --> 00:44:15,447
♪♪

935
00:44:16,740 --> 00:44:19,660
[grunting]

936
00:44:22,913 --> 00:44:25,582
[shouting]

937
00:44:37,511 --> 00:44:38,929
[man] Yeah, baby!

938
00:44:39,012 --> 00:44:40,264
[shouting]

939
00:44:40,347 --> 00:44:41,557
Let's go!

940
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:46,562
[indistinct shouting]

941
00:44:46,645 --> 00:44:47,855
Yeah!

942
00:44:47,938 --> 00:44:49,648
Yeah, baby!

943
00:44:49,731 --> 00:44:50,731
Yeah!

944
00:44:50,774 --> 00:44:56,238
[screaming]

945
00:45:00,450 --> 00:45:02,202
Ronnie is number one, man.

946
00:45:02,286 --> 00:45:06,081
Two! Three! Push it!

947
00:45:06,707 --> 00:45:08,458
Yeah! Yeah!

948
00:45:11,545 --> 00:45:13,005
Woo!

949
00:45:29,271 --> 00:45:31,607
[water thudding]

950
00:45:40,449 --> 00:45:42,169
A lot of people don't know it,
but I learned

951
00:45:42,201 --> 00:45:43,911
from the guys that beat me.

952
00:45:43,994 --> 00:45:45,746
You know, I applied the same knowledge

953
00:45:45,829 --> 00:45:47,122
when I was in college, you know.

954
00:45:47,206 --> 00:45:48,373
If I'm not the smartest,

955
00:45:48,457 --> 00:45:50,792
I'll go talk to the guys
that are the smartest.

956
00:45:50,876 --> 00:45:52,836
And when I got to bodybuilding,

957
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,856
I wasn't the best, so I went
and talked to the guys

958
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,633
who were the best, like Flex and Kevin,

959
00:45:57,716 --> 00:46:01,178
and all those guys,
and they gave me the knowledge

960
00:46:01,261 --> 00:46:03,972
that took me to the next level.

961
00:46:04,056 --> 00:46:08,644
♪♪

962
00:46:08,727 --> 00:46:10,938
We were in Russia one time
and he came to me,

963
00:46:11,021 --> 00:46:14,608
and I had won everything, you know,
six straight shows.

964
00:46:14,691 --> 00:46:17,861
I was placing like fourth
and fifth, you know, in every show,

965
00:46:17,945 --> 00:46:20,489
because I was kinda, like,
burnt out for the most part,

966
00:46:20,572 --> 00:46:22,449
you know,
from doing all those shows anyway.

967
00:46:22,533 --> 00:46:25,244
I did the Olympia,
I did the show before the Olympia.

968
00:46:25,327 --> 00:46:29,206
So I was kind of like burnt out,
but I remember

969
00:46:29,289 --> 00:46:32,251
Kevin is winning every show,
and I'm like,

970
00:46:32,334 --> 00:46:34,545
"What the hell is he doing
to win all these shows?"

971
00:46:34,628 --> 00:46:37,673
So, I went to Kevin's room,
I'm like, "Kevin."

972
00:46:37,756 --> 00:46:39,883
I was in there eating pizza
and stuff, you know,

973
00:46:39,967 --> 00:46:41,635
just chilling.
I had just won a show.

974
00:46:41,718 --> 00:46:42,970
Heard a knock on the door.

975
00:46:43,053 --> 00:46:44,930
I look, open the door, it's Ronnie.

976
00:46:45,013 --> 00:46:47,075
"Hey, man. What you doing?
You don't mind if I come in here?

977
00:46:47,099 --> 00:46:48,179
I wanna ask you something."

978
00:46:48,725 --> 00:46:51,353
I said, "All right, come on in, big dog."
You know, "what's up?"

979
00:46:51,854 --> 00:46:54,731
"Man, what's the trick?
What you doing, Kevin?"

980
00:46:54,815 --> 00:46:55,983
What are you doing?

981
00:46:56,066 --> 00:46:59,027
How are you staying so hard
to win all these shows?

982
00:46:59,111 --> 00:47:00,338
He's like,
"You wanna know what I'm doing?"

983
00:47:00,362 --> 00:47:01,965
- I'm like, "Yeah!"
- [Kevin] I said, "Dude,"

984
00:47:01,989 --> 00:47:03,448
I said, "Listen, man." I said,

985
00:47:03,532 --> 00:47:05,576
"You've been carrying your food around.

986
00:47:05,659 --> 00:47:08,137
You're so serious. You're measuring out
your food. You're doing...

987
00:47:08,161 --> 00:47:09,955
You gotta just relax, Ronnie."

988
00:47:10,038 --> 00:47:11,516
I said, "Why don't you
just have a seat, man,

989
00:47:11,540 --> 00:47:12,860
do a shot of this vodka with me?"

990
00:47:12,916 --> 00:47:14,877
So he goes over to his coffee maker

991
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,920
and pours a little coffee in the cup.

992
00:47:17,004 --> 00:47:19,464
Then he goes to the refrigerator...

993
00:47:19,548 --> 00:47:21,967
and pulls out a bottle of vodka,

994
00:47:22,843 --> 00:47:25,137
and he poured that into the cup.

995
00:47:26,430 --> 00:47:27,431
And he said, uh...

996
00:47:28,557 --> 00:47:29,766
"Drink that."

997
00:47:29,850 --> 00:47:31,059
[chuckles] I'm like...

998
00:47:31,143 --> 00:47:33,312
"I don't drink no alcohol,
Kevin, you know that.

999
00:47:33,395 --> 00:47:34,581
I don't drink no alcohol, man.

1000
00:47:34,605 --> 00:47:36,023
Man, bodybuilders can't do that."

1001
00:47:36,106 --> 00:47:38,984
I don't drink no vodka.
I don't drink alcohol.

1002
00:47:39,067 --> 00:47:41,028
I said, "Look, big dog." I said, "Listen,

1003
00:47:41,111 --> 00:47:43,047
take a shot of this vodka, man.
You'll be all right."

1004
00:47:43,071 --> 00:47:45,908
I said, "You know, just chill,
man. Take it easy."

1005
00:47:46,408 --> 00:47:47,659
So he took a shot.

1006
00:47:48,202 --> 00:47:49,202
"Man, you sure?"

1007
00:47:49,244 --> 00:47:50,704
I said, "Yeah, I'm sure."

1008
00:47:51,455 --> 00:47:52,873
So I'm like, "Okay."

1009
00:47:54,124 --> 00:47:56,376
So he drank it, and...

1010
00:47:56,460 --> 00:47:59,838
"Man, this stuff don't taste right.
Man, I ain't used to this in my body.

1011
00:47:59,922 --> 00:48:02,007
But if you say do it, I'm gonna do it."

1012
00:48:02,090 --> 00:48:03,884
I said,
"All right, go ahead and drink that."

1013
00:48:03,967 --> 00:48:07,137
All right, so he drank it,
and we sit down and talk a little more.

1014
00:48:07,221 --> 00:48:09,014
Talked about training,
working out.

1015
00:48:09,097 --> 00:48:12,059
I gave him another shot,
gave him another shot.

1016
00:48:12,768 --> 00:48:14,394
Gave him another shot, right?

1017
00:48:14,478 --> 00:48:17,606
So by the fifth shot he's like,
"Man, this stuff's pretty good.

1018
00:48:17,689 --> 00:48:19,942
Got a... let me have
another shot of that.

1019
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,862
Man, that vodka,
that made me feel real good."

1020
00:48:23,946 --> 00:48:26,573
So he got up, and I says,
"Man," I said, "Listen,

1021
00:48:26,657 --> 00:48:28,909
eat some of this pizza,"
ate a little bit of pizza.

1022
00:48:29,785 --> 00:48:31,495
And he left and went to his room.

1023
00:48:31,995 --> 00:48:34,581
So I didn't see him until
the next morning when we woke up.

1024
00:48:34,665 --> 00:48:35,999
You know, when...

1025
00:48:36,083 --> 00:48:37,334
saw him backstage,

1026
00:48:37,417 --> 00:48:39,461
pumping up,
pulled his clothes off.

1027
00:48:40,254 --> 00:48:42,089
And I looked at him, dude,

1028
00:48:42,172 --> 00:48:44,341
and my jaw's just dropped.

1029
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:46,927
I was like...

1030
00:48:47,636 --> 00:48:48,637
"Damn."

1031
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:50,889
I drank that coffee and that vodka,

1032
00:48:50,973 --> 00:48:54,685
and I went to the show
the next day and beat Kevin.

1033
00:48:54,768 --> 00:48:57,354
I think that by him
having the alcohol,

1034
00:48:57,437 --> 00:49:00,566
it dehydrated him just a little more,

1035
00:49:00,649 --> 00:49:03,277
but it was able to also relax him,

1036
00:49:03,777 --> 00:49:06,655
to not think about any food,
not think about anything,

1037
00:49:06,738 --> 00:49:09,908
and I think that
relaxed state of mind

1038
00:49:10,492 --> 00:49:13,203
just let the water
just leave his body.

1039
00:49:13,912 --> 00:49:17,082
And when Ronnie hit that stage,
man, it was all over.

1040
00:49:17,165 --> 00:49:19,334
It was like,
"Where'd this dude come from?"

1041
00:49:20,127 --> 00:49:22,671
♪♪

1042
00:49:23,672 --> 00:49:25,632
I remember going into
the Olympia, they said,

1043
00:49:25,716 --> 00:49:28,802
"Dorian ain't competing this year,
so the Olympia's wide open."

1044
00:49:28,886 --> 00:49:31,680
♪♪

1045
00:49:37,644 --> 00:49:40,606
Flex had been getting second.
Kevin had been getting second.

1046
00:49:40,689 --> 00:49:42,608
Shawn Ray had been getting second.

1047
00:49:42,691 --> 00:49:43,984
Nasser had been getting second.

1048
00:49:44,067 --> 00:49:46,528
and I'm like,
"Well, I ain't got a prayer."

1049
00:49:47,613 --> 00:49:50,073
♪♪

1050
00:49:50,991 --> 00:49:53,452
[Chris Cormier]
Leading up to the competition, you know,

1051
00:49:53,535 --> 00:49:54,828
it was highly
anticipated

1052
00:49:54,912 --> 00:49:56,055
because Dorian wasn't there anymore,

1053
00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:58,433
and everyone is, like, trying to see
where they're gonna fit in.

1054
00:49:58,457 --> 00:50:01,668
[Shawn] There was me,
Nasser El Sonbaty, Kevin.

1055
00:50:01,752 --> 00:50:04,588
Ronnie Coleman wasn't
even on my top six list.

1056
00:50:04,671 --> 00:50:08,217
The media at the time,
which was only magazines,

1057
00:50:08,300 --> 00:50:11,803
was pumping up Flex Wheeler,
you know.

1058
00:50:11,887 --> 00:50:14,348
Flex Wheeler,
you know, Sultan of Symmetry.

1059
00:50:14,431 --> 00:50:17,351
Flex Wheeler, you know,
'93 Arnold Classic.

1060
00:50:17,434 --> 00:50:20,229
You know, '94.
You're expecting this.

1061
00:50:20,312 --> 00:50:23,440
He managed to go
from getting his pro card

1062
00:50:23,524 --> 00:50:26,652
to being, you know,
the top in Mr. Olympia

1063
00:50:26,735 --> 00:50:28,403
all in the same year,
and that was just...

1064
00:50:28,487 --> 00:50:29,404
that was in '93.

1065
00:50:29,488 --> 00:50:32,032
His first pro year
he swept through everything.

1066
00:50:32,115 --> 00:50:33,575
Every pro show, he won.

1067
00:50:33,659 --> 00:50:35,827
And as the Olympia came,

1068
00:50:35,911 --> 00:50:39,831
he kinda really expected
for that to, one day,

1069
00:50:39,915 --> 00:50:42,125
you know, end up on his mantel.

1070
00:50:42,209 --> 00:50:43,710
[cheering]

1071
00:50:43,794 --> 00:50:47,464
Flex Wheeler, congratulations
for winning the Arnold's Classic,

1072
00:50:47,548 --> 00:50:50,759
and tell me now,
how much did it help you

1073
00:50:50,843 --> 00:50:53,136
to come out of this kind
of momentum of winning

1074
00:50:53,220 --> 00:50:55,889
the Ironman competition
a week ago?

1075
00:50:55,973 --> 00:50:58,559
I think it played a tremendous
influence on me,

1076
00:50:58,642 --> 00:51:02,145
especially that
that was my first pro... pro debut,

1077
00:51:02,229 --> 00:51:04,457
and I won that show, and I think
it gave me a little momentum

1078
00:51:04,481 --> 00:51:06,900
going into this show,
which I think I needed quite a bit.

1079
00:51:06,984 --> 00:51:09,862
Flex was always
the heir apparent to the title.

1080
00:51:09,945 --> 00:51:11,172
Flex Wheeler was definitely looking to be

1081
00:51:11,196 --> 00:51:12,948
the heir apparent to the throne.

1082
00:51:13,031 --> 00:51:14,700
He was the heir apparent.

1083
00:51:14,783 --> 00:51:16,303
Logically, he would be the guy to win.

1084
00:51:16,368 --> 00:51:20,372
From that time, he was always
destined to be the next guy.

1085
00:51:20,455 --> 00:51:23,000
♪♪

1086
00:51:26,003 --> 00:51:28,005
[applause]

1087
00:51:28,088 --> 00:51:30,090
♪♪

1088
00:51:33,135 --> 00:51:36,722
I would've bet millions
he would never win the Olympia.

1089
00:51:36,805 --> 00:51:38,682
The first five, six years of his career

1090
00:51:38,765 --> 00:51:41,935
he was a journeyman pro,
had had a good few shows,

1091
00:51:42,019 --> 00:51:45,147
but you never really thought
he was gonna make the breakthrough.

1092
00:51:45,230 --> 00:51:48,066
♪♪

1093
00:51:53,363 --> 00:51:56,158
When I saw him backstage
in New York City,

1094
00:51:56,241 --> 00:51:58,619
I knew that it was pretty much
game over for me.

1095
00:51:59,161 --> 00:52:00,537
It was night and day.

1096
00:52:00,621 --> 00:52:02,348
There was Ronnie,
and then there was everybody else.

1097
00:52:02,372 --> 00:52:04,684
[Chris] We all took off our clothes
and went out there to compete.

1098
00:52:04,708 --> 00:52:06,460
That's when you knew
that it was gonna be

1099
00:52:06,543 --> 00:52:07,753
a changing of the guard.

1100
00:52:07,836 --> 00:52:11,381
I remember going to the show
and being compared

1101
00:52:11,465 --> 00:52:13,383
to Flex and Kevin, and, you know,

1102
00:52:13,467 --> 00:52:15,886
those guys that had already won.

1103
00:52:16,512 --> 00:52:19,097
And a couple times
they had put me in the middle,

1104
00:52:19,181 --> 00:52:21,433
and I'm like,
"Oh, I'm doing pretty good here.

1105
00:52:21,517 --> 00:52:22,976
They put me in the middle,

1106
00:52:23,060 --> 00:52:24,937
comparing me to the big dogs
of the sport."

1107
00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:27,898
I think in 1998
the world had never seen

1108
00:52:27,981 --> 00:52:30,609
the total package that
Ronnie Coleman presented,

1109
00:52:30,692 --> 00:52:32,402
and when he presented that package,

1110
00:52:32,486 --> 00:52:35,447
he knocked out a bunch of Hall of Fame
bodybuilders in their prime.

1111
00:52:35,531 --> 00:52:37,950
And although Flex Wheeler
thought he was in the hunt,

1112
00:52:38,033 --> 00:52:41,370
I don't think he was beating
Ronnie Coleman in any of the poses.

1113
00:52:41,453 --> 00:52:43,848
[Ronnie] My goal was just
to place in the top five, you know?

1114
00:52:43,872 --> 00:52:46,625
I was like, "Man, if I can just place
top five in the Olympia,"

1115
00:52:46,708 --> 00:52:48,188
you know,
"it'd be a dream come true."

1116
00:52:48,252 --> 00:52:52,172
And I remember they called,
you know, like fifth and sixth,

1117
00:52:52,256 --> 00:52:54,341
and I'm still standing there,
and they called fourth,

1118
00:52:54,424 --> 00:52:56,426
and I'm like,
"Oh shucks, I'm doing pretty good."

1119
00:52:56,510 --> 00:52:58,804
Third and I'm still standing there.
I'm like, "Whoa."

1120
00:52:58,887 --> 00:53:02,307
And then I can remember
me and Flex standing there,

1121
00:53:02,391 --> 00:53:04,017
and they were
down to first and second.

1122
00:53:04,101 --> 00:53:06,228
I'm like, "Wow." [chuckles]

1123
00:53:06,311 --> 00:53:08,397
I was truly blown away.

1124
00:53:09,439 --> 00:53:11,608
And then Wayne,
when he called out second place

1125
00:53:11,692 --> 00:53:13,902
he waited for a long time.

1126
00:53:13,986 --> 00:53:16,446
♪♪

1127
00:53:16,530 --> 00:53:17,531
[Wayne] Flex Wheeler!

1128
00:53:18,073 --> 00:53:19,700
♪♪

1129
00:53:26,164 --> 00:53:31,170
That's when he collapsed, of course,
the famous officer down move that he did.

1130
00:53:32,254 --> 00:53:34,756
But I think that got to everybody.

1131
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,760
That made everybody in that theater,
Madison Square Garden, warm to this guy.

1132
00:53:38,844 --> 00:53:42,764
Here was a guy, real emotion
at taking the sport's top title

1133
00:53:42,848 --> 00:53:44,349
when nobody thought
he had a chance.

1134
00:53:44,433 --> 00:53:46,810
It was a Rocky story, you know?

1135
00:53:47,394 --> 00:53:48,854
Everybody was happy for him.

1136
00:53:49,605 --> 00:53:52,900
[Ronnie] To be at the top,
the best in the whole world,

1137
00:53:52,983 --> 00:53:56,612
you can't get no better feeling
in the world than that.

1138
00:53:56,695 --> 00:53:58,488
♪♪

1139
00:54:01,450 --> 00:54:03,702
[cheering]

1140
00:54:09,708 --> 00:54:12,794
[kids chattering]

1141
00:54:14,963 --> 00:54:17,799
[Susan] I suspect somebody
cut this one open.

1142
00:54:18,258 --> 00:54:20,594
- Was it you?
- Maybe.

1143
00:54:21,553 --> 00:54:23,680
Uh-huh. Okay.

1144
00:54:23,764 --> 00:54:26,725
I want you to know
these are very, very expensive.

1145
00:54:26,808 --> 00:54:30,229
You have to just adjust to
whether he's going to be here

1146
00:54:30,312 --> 00:54:32,356
or not be here
for long periods of time.

1147
00:54:32,439 --> 00:54:35,526
The household is run
more or less the same way,

1148
00:54:35,609 --> 00:54:38,278
but there's... I mean,
there's a few differences, of course,

1149
00:54:38,362 --> 00:54:41,448
'cause there's one extra person
or one less person.

1150
00:54:41,532 --> 00:54:44,493
And I have to buy another one
now to get your other ankle.

1151
00:54:46,036 --> 00:54:48,997
At least I gave you money.

1152
00:54:49,081 --> 00:54:50,791
Yes, at least you gave me money.

1153
00:54:51,291 --> 00:54:53,418
Every now and then,
it's challenging on me and him,

1154
00:54:53,502 --> 00:54:55,045
but I mean, we're grown-ups.

1155
00:54:55,128 --> 00:54:58,215
We understand
this is the way it is and it's okay.

1156
00:54:58,298 --> 00:55:00,050
And, you know,
technology helps a lot,

1157
00:55:00,133 --> 00:55:04,346
but it's challenging
on the children, the girls.

1158
00:55:04,429 --> 00:55:06,265
You know, 'cause they miss him.

1159
00:55:06,348 --> 00:55:09,810
And as they get older,
they understand better,

1160
00:55:09,893 --> 00:55:12,271
you know,
he has to go, but he'll be back.

1161
00:55:12,354 --> 00:55:16,692
I just don't really
wanna wash the dishes.

1162
00:55:16,775 --> 00:55:20,153
Only if you come outside
with me to play.

1163
00:55:20,237 --> 00:55:23,282
- After?
- I wash the dishes.

1164
00:55:23,365 --> 00:55:24,365
Deal.

1165
00:55:24,908 --> 00:55:28,829
Lola is the one in black,
and she is just like me.

1166
00:55:28,912 --> 00:55:33,125
Suzy, the one in blue,
she's emotional like me,

1167
00:55:33,208 --> 00:55:37,296
but, in a weird kinda way,
she's analytical like him as well.

1168
00:55:39,506 --> 00:55:40,883
- Lola!
- Yes?

1169
00:55:40,966 --> 00:55:43,177
You gonna come
to the swing with us?

1170
00:55:43,260 --> 00:55:45,053
♪♪

1171
00:56:01,653 --> 00:56:05,616
Okay, you gonna get
in the swing with sister?

1172
00:56:05,699 --> 00:56:07,242
[kids chatter]

1173
00:56:07,326 --> 00:56:08,577
Do you want me to push you?

1174
00:56:08,660 --> 00:56:10,537
- [Suzy] No!
- "No!"

1175
00:56:11,496 --> 00:56:13,832
You don't need me to push you.

1176
00:56:13,916 --> 00:56:15,000
- You know why?
- Why?

1177
00:56:15,083 --> 00:56:16,960
Because you're strong.

1178
00:56:17,044 --> 00:56:18,044
Strong like Dad.

1179
00:56:19,546 --> 00:56:23,425
One reason we have so many kids
is because he and I both love kids.

1180
00:56:23,509 --> 00:56:27,387
You know, when you choose that,
it becomes your world,

1181
00:56:27,471 --> 00:56:30,432
and I don't know that you change
into a different person,

1182
00:56:30,516 --> 00:56:33,310
or you just evolve into
the person you've always been,

1183
00:56:33,393 --> 00:56:36,939
which is the person who cares
about the next generation,

1184
00:56:37,022 --> 00:56:38,565
and what happens with them.

1185
00:56:38,649 --> 00:56:40,692
♪♪

1186
00:56:51,495 --> 00:56:54,414
♪♪

1187
00:56:57,251 --> 00:57:00,587
He was a simple country boy
from Louisiana

1188
00:57:00,671 --> 00:57:04,758
that came from not having
much of a chance

1189
00:57:04,842 --> 00:57:06,426
to dominating the sport.

1190
00:57:06,510 --> 00:57:08,720
♪♪

1191
00:57:08,804 --> 00:57:12,140
Yeah, I mean, Ronnie took it
to another level with the size.

1192
00:57:12,224 --> 00:57:14,768
He was metamorphosizing
into something

1193
00:57:14,852 --> 00:57:16,436
that we'd never seen before.

1194
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,189
Ronnie Coleman had reached a point

1195
00:57:19,273 --> 00:57:22,234
where he didn't look human backstage.

1196
00:57:22,317 --> 00:57:25,988
Lee Haney already had
the record about numbers.

1197
00:57:26,071 --> 00:57:27,757
He had eight Mr. Olympias.
Ronnie matched that.

1198
00:57:27,781 --> 00:57:29,467
[Shawn]
The guys that got second to Lee Haney,

1199
00:57:29,491 --> 00:57:31,285
when you stacked them up
against the guys

1200
00:57:31,368 --> 00:57:34,204
that were getting second
to Ronnie Coleman, um...

1201
00:57:34,288 --> 00:57:36,748
Ronnie Coleman was
putting to waste guys

1202
00:57:36,832 --> 00:57:38,292
that arguably could be Mr. Olympia.

1203
00:57:38,375 --> 00:57:40,270
I was still working
for the police department, too.

1204
00:57:40,294 --> 00:57:42,254
I worked, let's see...

1205
00:57:42,337 --> 00:57:45,007
my first three or four Olympias.

1206
00:57:45,090 --> 00:57:48,218
I worked for the most part
until the Olympia came around.

1207
00:57:48,302 --> 00:57:50,363
Olympia came around,
I'd take, like, three months off,

1208
00:57:50,387 --> 00:57:52,097
and get ready for the show.

1209
00:57:52,181 --> 00:57:53,891
I didn't go to work or nothing.

1210
00:57:53,974 --> 00:57:56,094
I didn't even know he was
a cop for a long, long time.

1211
00:57:57,102 --> 00:57:58,580
You know, until he started beating me.

1212
00:57:58,604 --> 00:58:01,023
So, yeah,
it brought a lot of attention to...

1213
00:58:01,732 --> 00:58:03,442
to him, and...

1214
00:58:03,525 --> 00:58:06,695
what he was as a person,
and as a man, you know.

1215
00:58:06,778 --> 00:58:10,032
[Flex] You couldn't beat him in size,
couldn't beat him in condition,

1216
00:58:10,115 --> 00:58:13,243
and, you know, when you're
just really feeling yourself,

1217
00:58:13,327 --> 00:58:15,078
I mean, you know...

1218
00:58:15,162 --> 00:58:17,623
peacock strutting with his tail...
all his feathers out.

1219
00:58:17,706 --> 00:58:20,459
I think once he tasted victory,
he didn't wanna taste defeat,

1220
00:58:20,542 --> 00:58:22,669
and that can move mountains as well.

1221
00:58:22,753 --> 00:58:25,380
People wanted to have that size.

1222
00:58:25,464 --> 00:58:28,717
People wanted to adopt
what he has adopted

1223
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,344
through his physique.

1224
00:58:30,427 --> 00:58:32,846
The Mr. Olympia,
for Ronnie Coleman's confidence,

1225
00:58:32,930 --> 00:58:35,849
was exactly what I think he needed

1226
00:58:35,933 --> 00:58:39,978
to cement and put the ribbon
around who he was.

1227
00:58:40,062 --> 00:58:42,189
I mean, because it's like
winning the lottery,

1228
00:58:42,272 --> 00:58:43,524
but lottery's luck.

1229
00:58:44,233 --> 00:58:46,443
♪♪

1230
00:58:52,199 --> 00:58:56,578
[Ronnie] When I first started competing,
I was 215, my first... when I turned pro.

1231
00:58:56,662 --> 00:58:58,580
When I won my seventh Olympia

1232
00:58:58,664 --> 00:59:01,875
I was 296, almost 300 pounds.

1233
00:59:02,459 --> 00:59:06,004
So I went from 215 to almost 300.

1234
00:59:06,088 --> 00:59:08,173
♪♪

1235
00:59:08,966 --> 00:59:10,384
It was like a gradual thing.

1236
00:59:10,467 --> 00:59:12,302
I was getting bigger year by year,

1237
00:59:12,386 --> 00:59:15,138
so you couldn't really see
a whole lot of size

1238
00:59:15,222 --> 00:59:16,473
come on me at one time.

1239
00:59:16,557 --> 00:59:20,060
But I do remember
the first time I hit 300,

1240
00:59:20,143 --> 00:59:21,436
'cause I couldn't bend over.

1241
00:59:23,605 --> 00:59:25,190
The bigger Ronnie Coleman, years later,

1242
00:59:25,274 --> 00:59:28,652
was not the quality Ronnie Coleman
that won in New York in '98.

1243
00:59:28,735 --> 00:59:30,696
But the judges saw it differently,

1244
00:59:30,779 --> 00:59:33,699
that Ronnie Coleman was just
too big and too muscular,

1245
00:59:33,782 --> 00:59:37,369
and that's, I think, the turning point
in our sport where they started

1246
00:59:37,452 --> 00:59:39,913
over-rewarding size over quality.

1247
00:59:39,997 --> 00:59:43,834
When he started getting bigger,
started just losing that look,

1248
00:59:43,917 --> 00:59:47,880
that small waist,
and he just got too thick,

1249
00:59:47,963 --> 00:59:49,214
which I think was a mistake.

1250
00:59:49,298 --> 00:59:52,259
Sometimes he was heavier
and bigger and blockier,

1251
00:59:52,342 --> 00:59:56,138
but he was on such another level
in terms of the muscle size.

1252
00:59:56,221 --> 00:59:59,183
Ronnie Coleman, you know,
still won the eight Olympias,

1253
00:59:59,266 --> 01:00:03,353
but it was questionable
on the last two Olympias that he won,

1254
01:00:03,437 --> 01:00:05,147
or the last Olympia that he won.

1255
01:00:05,230 --> 01:00:09,151
[Chris] Ronnie was starting to get
a little heavier than what he, uh...

1256
01:00:09,234 --> 01:00:10,569
what was best for his physique.

1257
01:00:10,652 --> 01:00:13,155
His Olympia look wasn't as great.

1258
01:00:13,238 --> 01:00:15,657
[Ronnie]
It was 2001, and I did the Arnold Classic,

1259
01:00:16,825 --> 01:00:19,703
and I decided I was gonna do
the Olympia that same year.

1260
01:00:19,786 --> 01:00:23,207
The night before the show,
I'm getting tanned.

1261
01:00:23,790 --> 01:00:27,211
My girlfriend is putting my tan on,
and we're in the bathroom.

1262
01:00:27,294 --> 01:00:29,296
All of a sudden, I just faint.

1263
01:00:29,379 --> 01:00:32,966
And I've never
in my whole life fainted before.

1264
01:00:33,634 --> 01:00:36,303
And I wake up,
I'm in the tub, you know.

1265
01:00:36,386 --> 01:00:37,304
I'm like, "What happened?"

1266
01:00:37,387 --> 01:00:38,722
They're like, "You fainted."

1267
01:00:38,805 --> 01:00:40,057
I'm like, "What?"

1268
01:00:40,140 --> 01:00:43,143
I've never... this has
never happened to me before.

1269
01:00:43,227 --> 01:00:46,688
The next morning
when I wake up to get out of bed,

1270
01:00:47,397 --> 01:00:50,150
I'm so tired, I'm so exhausted,

1271
01:00:50,234 --> 01:00:51,860
I can't get out of bed.

1272
01:00:53,028 --> 01:00:55,656
I know how I'm supposed to feel,
you know, the morning of the show

1273
01:00:55,739 --> 01:00:57,491
and I'm always very energetic,

1274
01:00:57,574 --> 01:00:59,177
and I'm ready to go,
and I'm ready to fight,

1275
01:00:59,201 --> 01:01:00,452
and I'm ready to get it on.

1276
01:01:00,536 --> 01:01:03,705
This morning, I'm very exhausted,

1277
01:01:03,789 --> 01:01:06,542
I can't get out of bed, I'm so tired.

1278
01:01:06,625 --> 01:01:10,796
I'm so tired to the point that
I actually feel like I'm about to die.

1279
01:01:10,879 --> 01:01:13,090
So I call my nutritionist,
I say, "Hey, dude."

1280
01:01:14,049 --> 01:01:17,344
"Hey, the show is over with for me,"
you know?

1281
01:01:17,427 --> 01:01:18,637
"I'm going to the hospital."

1282
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,180
He's like, "No, man, don't do that.

1283
01:01:20,264 --> 01:01:22,182
You put too much work into this."

1284
01:01:22,266 --> 01:01:24,393
He's like, "Just grab a gallon of water

1285
01:01:24,476 --> 01:01:26,144
and just drink as much as you can

1286
01:01:26,228 --> 01:01:27,980
until you feel like you're okay."

1287
01:01:28,063 --> 01:01:30,482
So, I'm like, "Okay."
So that's what I did.

1288
01:01:30,566 --> 01:01:32,609
I grabbed a gallon of water.

1289
01:01:32,693 --> 01:01:34,253
I think I drank about the whole gallon,

1290
01:01:34,278 --> 01:01:35,863
you know, that morning,

1291
01:01:35,946 --> 01:01:37,823
uh, for the morning show.

1292
01:01:37,906 --> 01:01:39,676
And by the time I finished
that gallon of water

1293
01:01:39,700 --> 01:01:41,702
I felt pretty good, and I'm like, "Okay,

1294
01:01:41,785 --> 01:01:45,414
I'm all right now.
I'm back to my old self."

1295
01:01:45,497 --> 01:01:48,375
He's at the top, being Mr. Olympia,

1296
01:01:48,458 --> 01:01:50,919
and then there was guys like
Jay Cutler who was chasing him.

1297
01:01:51,003 --> 01:01:53,797
I went into the Mr. Olympia
every year thinking I was gonna win.

1298
01:01:53,881 --> 01:01:54,882
I never had a doubt.

1299
01:01:54,965 --> 01:01:57,801
He was an obstacle for...

1300
01:01:57,885 --> 01:01:59,761
I was trying to be the best in the world.

1301
01:01:59,845 --> 01:02:01,722
You know,
and Ronnie was standing in my way.

1302
01:02:01,805 --> 01:02:03,867
So every year it was a battle
against Ronnie Coleman.

1303
01:02:03,891 --> 01:02:06,643
I didn't give a shit
about anyone else but Ronnie Coleman

1304
01:02:06,727 --> 01:02:11,565
because I knew that was the only
guy that could possibly beat me.

1305
01:02:11,648 --> 01:02:14,818
In 2001, a lot of people thought
Jay Cutler had beaten him,

1306
01:02:14,902 --> 01:02:18,488
and he beat him based on
the dryness and the hardness

1307
01:02:18,572 --> 01:02:22,117
of his frame,
but the judges saw it differently,

1308
01:02:22,201 --> 01:02:24,912
that Ronnie Coleman was just
too big and too muscular.

1309
01:02:24,995 --> 01:02:27,581
Jay was sort of satisfied that
he'd made the big breakthrough.

1310
01:02:27,664 --> 01:02:28,957
I thought he'd won.

1311
01:02:29,041 --> 01:02:31,168
[Jay Cutler]
When I landed that second place in 2001,

1312
01:02:31,251 --> 01:02:33,646
I was highly disappointed, even though
I may not have shown it on stage,

1313
01:02:33,670 --> 01:02:37,216
because I put a lot of effort
into training for that contest.

1314
01:02:37,299 --> 01:02:39,635
[announcer]
The policeman out of Arlington, Texas,

1315
01:02:39,718 --> 01:02:41,178
Ronnie Coleman.

1316
01:02:41,261 --> 01:02:44,973
Jay Cutler has to wonder what
he has to do to upset the champion.

1317
01:02:45,057 --> 01:02:46,975
♪♪

1318
01:02:55,025 --> 01:02:57,086
[Ronnie] When I looked at this house,
I fell in love with it.

1319
01:02:57,110 --> 01:02:58,445
It was brand-new.

1320
01:02:58,529 --> 01:03:00,697
I moved here in '96, 21 years.

1321
01:03:01,573 --> 01:03:04,117
I paid cash for it
when I won my first Olympia.

1322
01:03:05,077 --> 01:03:06,638
[Vlad] I notice you have
your own gym here, right?

1323
01:03:06,662 --> 01:03:08,830
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You wanna check it out?

1324
01:03:08,914 --> 01:03:09,914
[Vlad] Yeah.

1325
01:03:14,378 --> 01:03:16,964
Everything that I used at Metroflex
I put in here.

1326
01:03:17,631 --> 01:03:20,759
My hack squat,
my leg extension, leg curl.

1327
01:03:20,843 --> 01:03:22,970
My calf machine over there.

1328
01:03:25,180 --> 01:03:27,724
I got a decline, I got an incline,

1329
01:03:27,808 --> 01:03:29,226
and I got a flat bench.

1330
01:03:31,979 --> 01:03:34,314
It start at 5,
and go all the way up to 200.

1331
01:03:34,398 --> 01:03:36,817
I even put a T-bar row here.

1332
01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:39,361
My legs are still numb
so I can't go heavy.

1333
01:03:39,444 --> 01:03:40,571
I do light, so...

1334
01:03:40,654 --> 01:03:44,032
They'd call the police on me
all the time when I used to work out.

1335
01:03:45,117 --> 01:03:47,035
'Cause I'd be... I'd be loud.

1336
01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:49,371
Duke, this way. Let's go.

1337
01:03:54,668 --> 01:03:57,588
[labored breathing]

1338
01:04:05,095 --> 01:04:06,680
[humming]

1339
01:04:12,477 --> 01:04:14,271
[groaning]

1340
01:04:30,662 --> 01:04:32,497
It's hot in here.

1341
01:04:41,381 --> 01:04:43,258
Yeah.

1342
01:04:43,342 --> 01:04:44,593
[chuckling]

1343
01:04:48,180 --> 01:04:51,225
Remember I told you
we had the gas, uh...

1344
01:04:52,351 --> 01:04:53,477
stealing out of the cars.

1345
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:54,895
We got this monitor right here.

1346
01:04:55,479 --> 01:04:57,189
- [Vlad] Oh, yeah?
- Uh-huh, yeah.

1347
01:04:57,272 --> 01:05:00,275
The, uh, lights down there,
they come on at night.

1348
01:05:01,443 --> 01:05:04,488
You walk past and it lights up
the whole thing down there.

1349
01:05:05,572 --> 01:05:08,033
♪♪

1350
01:05:09,034 --> 01:05:11,537
[Shawn] The day that Jay Cutler
actually beat Ronnie Coleman,

1351
01:05:11,620 --> 01:05:13,830
you could hear a collective...

1352
01:05:13,914 --> 01:05:15,249
passing of the torch.

1353
01:05:15,332 --> 01:05:18,752
The crowd shift,
it just really went straight to Jay.

1354
01:05:18,836 --> 01:05:22,172
I think a lot of people were
making up for the 2001 victory

1355
01:05:22,256 --> 01:05:23,936
that Jay should've got that he didn't get.

1356
01:05:23,966 --> 01:05:25,551
People were cheering for the upset.

1357
01:05:25,634 --> 01:05:27,636
We'd seen so much of Ronnie Coleman

1358
01:05:27,719 --> 01:05:29,179
that eventually, like Mike Tyson,

1359
01:05:29,263 --> 01:05:31,682
you tune in to hopefully see
the champ get knocked out.

1360
01:05:31,765 --> 01:05:34,059
♪♪

1361
01:05:34,977 --> 01:05:37,896
The younger version of you
is lurking out there somewhere,

1362
01:05:37,980 --> 01:05:40,983
and, you know, you're gonna meet
that hellfire person.

1363
01:05:41,066 --> 01:05:42,359
So, it happens.

1364
01:05:42,442 --> 01:05:44,069
[Jay] I was fed up.

1365
01:05:45,070 --> 01:05:47,549
I wasn't sure how much longer
I could keep getting second place,

1366
01:05:47,573 --> 01:05:50,158
and my whole family came out.

1367
01:05:50,242 --> 01:05:51,553
You know, I always had my family there,

1368
01:05:51,577 --> 01:05:54,496
my brothers, sisters,
everyone came out, family friends.

1369
01:05:54,580 --> 01:05:57,082
I think I bought 100 tickets
that event, that year.

1370
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,251
Ronnie came in off.

1371
01:05:59,334 --> 01:06:01,086
Ronnie doubted himself that night.

1372
01:06:01,837 --> 01:06:06,175
And I remember being backstage
and seeing it, you know, unfold.

1373
01:06:06,258 --> 01:06:08,427
You know, when you compete at that level,

1374
01:06:08,510 --> 01:06:11,555
you can kind of sense and see.

1375
01:06:12,014 --> 01:06:13,682
You get to know people's personalities

1376
01:06:13,765 --> 01:06:15,726
and their approach and everything,

1377
01:06:15,809 --> 01:06:18,729
and Ronnie just showed up
as a different Ronnie that night.

1378
01:06:19,479 --> 01:06:23,358
Ronnie was going for nine
and didn't get nine.

1379
01:06:23,442 --> 01:06:24,818
Jay Cutler beat him.

1380
01:06:24,902 --> 01:06:26,653
[announcer] The Olympia gold medal

1381
01:06:26,737 --> 01:06:30,365
to the 2006 Mr. Olympia...

1382
01:06:30,449 --> 01:06:33,368
[indistinct shouting]

1383
01:06:33,452 --> 01:06:35,495
...Jay Cutler!

1384
01:06:35,579 --> 01:06:37,039
[cheering]

1385
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:42,085
When Jay knocked out the champ,
it validated years of work

1386
01:06:42,169 --> 01:06:43,769
that Ronnie Coleman had done before him.

1387
01:06:43,795 --> 01:06:46,215
And there's not a champion
out there that's not susceptible

1388
01:06:46,298 --> 01:06:47,978
to getting knocked out,
and getting beaten.

1389
01:06:48,008 --> 01:06:49,843
We've seen it happen.
We saw Mike Tyson lose,

1390
01:06:49,927 --> 01:06:52,930
we saw Muhammad Ali lose,

1391
01:06:53,013 --> 01:06:55,891
and we saw Ronnie Coleman lose to Jay.

1392
01:06:55,974 --> 01:06:57,601
♪♪

1393
01:06:57,684 --> 01:07:01,146
[Jay] The night I beat Ronnie,
2006, it was a flash.

1394
01:07:01,813 --> 01:07:05,025
He knew he was gonna lose,
and I think he didn't think that

1395
01:07:05,108 --> 01:07:06,693
until the very end,

1396
01:07:06,777 --> 01:07:08,529
because he was Ronnie Coleman.

1397
01:07:09,029 --> 01:07:10,864
He hadn't lost in a very long time.

1398
01:07:10,948 --> 01:07:14,409
I thought it was pretty much automatic
that I was gonna win number nine,

1399
01:07:14,493 --> 01:07:17,246
because I had won, like,
eight in a row, so like,

1400
01:07:17,329 --> 01:07:20,165
you know, you come up
for number nine, and, like, okay...

1401
01:07:20,249 --> 01:07:22,835
Those eight were...
you know, I worked hard for 'em.

1402
01:07:22,918 --> 01:07:26,088
So I'm thinking, you know,
number nine's just gonna be a breeze.

1403
01:07:26,505 --> 01:07:29,550
[Jay] I won on that stage,
and it was the first time in history

1404
01:07:29,633 --> 01:07:32,845
that a Mr. Olympia
was beaten on that stage.

1405
01:07:33,345 --> 01:07:35,472
[Shawn] When Ronnie Coleman
was beaten by Jay Cutler,

1406
01:07:35,556 --> 01:07:37,075
it took a little bit of the shine off.

1407
01:07:37,099 --> 01:07:41,395
I can only imagine Ronnie Coleman
being Mr. Olympia for, like, eight times.

1408
01:07:41,478 --> 01:07:44,022
And then he loses to a guy
that he was routinely beating

1409
01:07:44,106 --> 01:07:45,983
in head-to-head competition.

1410
01:07:46,525 --> 01:07:50,362
[Peter] In the end, it was...
It happened, you know? Jay took him,

1411
01:07:50,445 --> 01:07:52,114
but that wasn't Ronnie at his best.

1412
01:07:52,197 --> 01:07:55,158
You know, the injuries
had shown up, and, you know,

1413
01:07:55,242 --> 01:07:57,452
he was battle-worn by that time.

1414
01:07:57,536 --> 01:07:59,496
I didn't beat the best
Ronnie Coleman ever.

1415
01:07:59,580 --> 01:08:02,040
I don't want people ever
to think like, "Oh, well,

1416
01:08:02,124 --> 01:08:03,810
Ronnie was at his best
and Jay was at his best."

1417
01:08:03,834 --> 01:08:04,877
That's not the case.

1418
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:06,545
I just was better that day.

1419
01:08:06,628 --> 01:08:07,921
You know, time was creeping up,

1420
01:08:08,005 --> 01:08:10,048
he was going for his record number nine.

1421
01:08:10,132 --> 01:08:12,009
Lot of publicity going into the show.

1422
01:08:12,092 --> 01:08:13,635
But I felt bad for Ronnie.

1423
01:08:13,719 --> 01:08:16,346
I felt bad winning, which is weird.

1424
01:08:17,806 --> 01:08:20,058
Because, you know, he was...
it was everything to him,

1425
01:08:20,142 --> 01:08:22,102
you know,
and he was going for number nine.

1426
01:08:22,186 --> 01:08:24,188
It was the record,
it'd beat Lee Haney's record.

1427
01:08:24,980 --> 01:08:28,233
And he was upset, you know?
He was visually upset.

1428
01:08:28,317 --> 01:08:30,527
♪♪

1429
01:08:30,611 --> 01:08:33,655
[cheering]

1430
01:08:38,452 --> 01:08:41,079
♪♪

1431
01:08:45,083 --> 01:08:46,710
My name is Mike Hisey.

1432
01:08:46,793 --> 01:08:49,087
I'm an orthopedic surgeon
with the Texas Back Institute

1433
01:08:49,171 --> 01:08:50,531
and I specialize in spine surgery.

1434
01:08:50,964 --> 01:08:54,051
So, Ronnie came to me from
a friend of mine who has known him,

1435
01:08:54,134 --> 01:08:55,862
and has worked out with Ronnie
for years and years.

1436
01:08:55,886 --> 01:08:58,013
And when he had a particular problem
with his back

1437
01:08:58,096 --> 01:09:00,933
that Rob knew that I knew
how to operate on,

1438
01:09:01,016 --> 01:09:02,476
he referred Ronnie to me.

1439
01:09:02,559 --> 01:09:05,395
And it's an advanced stage
of, really, degeneration,

1440
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,606
wear and tear,
and it's from all of the weight

1441
01:09:07,689 --> 01:09:09,209
he's been putting through
his back over the years.

1442
01:09:09,233 --> 01:09:11,360
So it had worn out the discs.

1443
01:09:11,443 --> 01:09:14,988
And he had had operations
before I met him

1444
01:09:15,072 --> 01:09:17,115
to try and unpinch some
of the nerves and make room

1445
01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:19,201
for the nerves,
and then ultimately an attempt

1446
01:09:19,284 --> 01:09:22,120
at trying to hold the bones still
that didn't heal up.

1447
01:09:22,204 --> 01:09:25,707
So, we tried to do another
operation to get him to heal up

1448
01:09:25,791 --> 01:09:27,543
and try and improve his alignment.

1449
01:09:27,626 --> 01:09:29,670
These are the artificial hips now,

1450
01:09:29,753 --> 01:09:30,772
they were already in
by the time I met him.

1451
01:09:30,796 --> 01:09:32,381
Here's one of them and the other.

1452
01:09:33,006 --> 01:09:35,133
And then you can see the screws,

1453
01:09:35,217 --> 01:09:37,886
and you can see how collapsed
this disc is.

1454
01:09:37,970 --> 01:09:39,805
We were able to lift it up some.

1455
01:09:39,888 --> 01:09:41,890
Got his alignment a little bit better.

1456
01:09:41,974 --> 01:09:43,809
Now he's got this spacer in here.

1457
01:09:43,892 --> 01:09:46,228
This is lifted up. We were able
to get that one lifted up.

1458
01:09:46,311 --> 01:09:48,063
You see how collapsed this one is.

1459
01:09:48,146 --> 01:09:50,666
We weren't able to get this one
pulled back as far as I'd hoped,

1460
01:09:51,191 --> 01:09:52,460
but some, and this looks like it's...

1461
01:09:52,484 --> 01:09:54,003
on the CAT scan,
it looks like it's healed.

1462
01:09:54,027 --> 01:09:55,839
We were able to get the nerves
unpinched at that level.

1463
01:09:55,863 --> 01:09:59,700
Disc is okay, but the joint
is wearing to some degree.

1464
01:10:00,242 --> 01:10:02,369
We see this all the time.
Not all of our patients

1465
01:10:02,452 --> 01:10:04,121
are competitive bodybuilders.

1466
01:10:04,204 --> 01:10:08,250
It's a common problem,
but he puts himself at higher risk.

1467
01:10:08,333 --> 01:10:09,561
You know,
some of the people are gonna get it

1468
01:10:09,585 --> 01:10:11,003
because of their genetics.

1469
01:10:11,879 --> 01:10:14,256
It's years, miles, and your activity.

1470
01:10:14,339 --> 01:10:16,717
And his activity, I think,
is what put him at the risk,

1471
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,596
and it's what he lives for.

1472
01:10:20,679 --> 01:10:23,515
So, we're just taking care of it.

1473
01:10:23,599 --> 01:10:27,895
Doctor said he's gonna go in
and perform a surgery

1474
01:10:27,978 --> 01:10:30,856
in which he's gonna
take out the screws, 'cause...

1475
01:10:30,939 --> 01:10:33,734
uh, from that nerve block shot
that I had.

1476
01:10:33,817 --> 01:10:35,569
The pain went away for a whole day,

1477
01:10:35,652 --> 01:10:39,072
and that showed that the hardware

1478
01:10:39,156 --> 01:10:40,574
was causing the pain, those screws.

1479
01:10:41,408 --> 01:10:44,870
Screw was just there
just to hold the fusion in place.

1480
01:10:44,953 --> 01:10:46,330
They fused my discs together.

1481
01:10:46,413 --> 01:10:48,332
They've been there almost two years.

1482
01:10:48,415 --> 01:10:49,958
They've pretty much done their job.

1483
01:10:50,042 --> 01:10:52,127
All they're doing now
is just causing me pain.

1484
01:10:52,211 --> 01:10:53,730
[Vlad] He's still working out, obviously.

1485
01:10:53,754 --> 01:10:56,089
- He's still in the gym.
- I don't think he'll ever stop.

1486
01:10:56,173 --> 01:10:58,425
[Vlad] And do you think
that's a positive thing?

1487
01:10:58,509 --> 01:11:00,093
Would you recommend it, or not?

1488
01:11:00,177 --> 01:11:03,222
If I had to pick, just for his back,
it's probably not the best thing.

1489
01:11:03,305 --> 01:11:06,975
But for his overall well-being,
I think he needs to.

1490
01:11:07,976 --> 01:11:09,579
Step in the room,
we'll check out your nerves and stuff.

1491
01:11:09,603 --> 01:11:11,456
- [Ronnie] Yeah, yeah.
- Where's your wife today?

1492
01:11:11,480 --> 01:11:13,690
[Ronnie] She's got the kids.

1493
01:11:13,774 --> 01:11:15,094
[Mike] Just scooch on back there.

1494
01:11:17,069 --> 01:11:19,255
- Put these here.
- [Mike] Lift your big toes up for me.

1495
01:11:19,279 --> 01:11:21,490
Hold 'em up real strong. Real strong.

1496
01:11:21,573 --> 01:11:22,407
You're a little weak on this one still.

1497
01:11:22,491 --> 01:11:24,284
[Ronnie] Yeah, that one's real weak.

1498
01:11:25,452 --> 01:11:27,555
[Ronnie] Okay, push down strong,
down towards the floor, strong.

1499
01:11:27,579 --> 01:11:29,957
That's much better.
How 'bout hold it up straight.

1500
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,292
Hold that up real strong.
Straight, straight, straight.

1501
01:11:33,001 --> 01:11:35,321
Hold this one up real strong.
Straight, straight, straight.

1502
01:11:35,379 --> 01:11:37,214
- Oh, that's gotten so much better.
- Yeah.

1503
01:11:37,297 --> 01:11:39,716
That's gotten so much better.
So much better.

1504
01:11:40,384 --> 01:11:42,511
Yeah, that's perfect. Now, let me just...

1505
01:11:44,471 --> 01:11:46,533
- That may not come back.
- That ain't gonna come back.

1506
01:11:46,557 --> 01:11:47,891
That may not come back.

1507
01:11:48,350 --> 01:11:50,602
That ain't worked in some...
a whole lot of years.

1508
01:11:50,686 --> 01:11:53,146
Yeah, I don't think
I've ever seen that one work.

1509
01:11:53,230 --> 01:11:54,648
I don't think this one does either.

1510
01:11:54,731 --> 01:11:55,983
No, no, no.

1511
01:11:56,066 --> 01:11:58,044
[Mike] Yeah, he's an amazing guy
in terms of being able to

1512
01:11:58,068 --> 01:12:00,153
work through things.

1513
01:12:00,237 --> 01:12:03,282
But, with this operation,
with as much time as we had to spend,

1514
01:12:03,365 --> 01:12:06,326
it's not uncommon that weakness
on the leg on the side we go in.

1515
01:12:06,410 --> 01:12:08,912
And, so he had that,
and that's been getting better,

1516
01:12:08,996 --> 01:12:11,290
but it certainly was an issue
for him early on, post-op.

1517
01:12:12,082 --> 01:12:16,545
I don't think he's done with
treating his back by any means,

1518
01:12:16,628 --> 01:12:17,504
but I think he's on his way.

1519
01:12:17,588 --> 01:12:19,315
His recovery, I think,
is better than average

1520
01:12:19,339 --> 01:12:20,966
for what he had to start with.

1521
01:12:21,049 --> 01:12:22,426
It's not perfect.

1522
01:12:22,509 --> 01:12:25,512
There may come a time when he wants
to try and get it a little bit better,

1523
01:12:25,596 --> 01:12:26,948
in which case we might extend it up

1524
01:12:26,972 --> 01:12:28,724
and get a few more levels
above or below

1525
01:12:28,807 --> 01:12:31,518
to correct his overall alignment.

1526
01:12:31,602 --> 01:12:33,037
I don't think it's gonna do anything about

1527
01:12:33,061 --> 01:12:34,941
getting strength back,
but it may help with pain

1528
01:12:35,022 --> 01:12:37,107
and it may help him stand up
a little bit taller.

1529
01:12:38,066 --> 01:12:41,111
♪♪

1530
01:12:42,946 --> 01:12:46,283
[Ronnie] What happened was,
they put in four screws

1531
01:12:46,825 --> 01:12:49,870
'cause the discs were shifting forward

1532
01:12:49,953 --> 01:12:51,705
and pushing up against my nerves.

1533
01:12:51,788 --> 01:12:54,082
So they had to
clamp them together,

1534
01:12:54,166 --> 01:12:56,084
and they used these screws.

1535
01:12:56,168 --> 01:12:58,545
Anyway, those screws ended up breaking.

1536
01:12:58,629 --> 01:13:01,381
And in the process of breaking,
they broke bones in my back.

1537
01:13:01,465 --> 01:13:03,926
You know, and then the pain got so bad

1538
01:13:04,009 --> 01:13:05,427
where I couldn't even walk.

1539
01:13:05,511 --> 01:13:07,054
Hey, guys! What's going on?

1540
01:13:07,137 --> 01:13:10,182
Big Ron here, coming live
to you from the...

1541
01:13:10,265 --> 01:13:13,060
what I deem my...
Ronnie Coleman recovery center.

1542
01:13:13,143 --> 01:13:15,497
[Susan] You know, a lot of people
that go through this kind of surgery

1543
01:13:15,521 --> 01:13:18,815
tend to have the mindset
that they may be in a wheelchair,

1544
01:13:18,899 --> 01:13:21,443
and they say people like that, who...

1545
01:13:21,527 --> 01:13:23,737
eventually do go to wheelchair,
never get out.

1546
01:13:23,820 --> 01:13:25,072
And they could,

1547
01:13:25,155 --> 01:13:27,699
but it's just a mental...

1548
01:13:27,783 --> 01:13:31,453
you know, thing that they have.
And it's never occurred to Ronnie.

1549
01:13:31,537 --> 01:13:33,622
♪♪

1550
01:13:33,705 --> 01:13:35,040
I'm ready to take off.

1551
01:13:35,123 --> 01:13:36,810
I'm gonna take off in flight
in a second here.

1552
01:13:36,834 --> 01:13:38,353
[man] Put some nitrous
on that wheelchair.

1553
01:13:38,377 --> 01:13:40,712
[laughing]

1554
01:13:41,713 --> 01:13:44,424
[Ronnie] So I stayed in the hospital
for like a whole month,

1555
01:13:44,508 --> 01:13:48,303
trying to get better,
and trying to deal with the pain.

1556
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:53,767
And this is what I get
early in the morning

1557
01:13:53,851 --> 01:13:55,060
for the next day's meal.

1558
01:13:55,143 --> 01:13:57,771
I'll be having cranberry juice.

1559
01:13:57,855 --> 01:14:01,483
It was real bad, you know?
But I made it through all that.

1560
01:14:01,567 --> 01:14:05,153
I started out in a wheelchair,
did that for a while.

1561
01:14:05,237 --> 01:14:08,824
Then I graduated to a walker,
did that for a while.

1562
01:14:08,907 --> 01:14:11,910
And then I got to the point
where I got the crutches.

1563
01:14:11,994 --> 01:14:14,371
Doing that for a while,
and I'm still on crutches,

1564
01:14:14,454 --> 01:14:17,875
but, for the most part,
I can walk around the house,

1565
01:14:17,958 --> 01:14:19,626
like short distances,

1566
01:14:19,710 --> 01:14:21,521
but I use the crutches
for like when I have to walk

1567
01:14:21,545 --> 01:14:25,132
for like long distances
and stuff like that, so...

1568
01:14:25,215 --> 01:14:27,384
I say I've come a long way.

1569
01:14:33,682 --> 01:14:35,767
♪♪

1570
01:15:00,876 --> 01:15:03,045
The six and seven-year-old,

1571
01:15:03,128 --> 01:15:05,923
they're kinda like figure skaters,
both of them.

1572
01:15:06,590 --> 01:15:09,426
Susan, of course, she's a lot older,

1573
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:11,303
so she's a national level competitor.

1574
01:15:11,386 --> 01:15:13,931
♪♪

1575
01:15:19,186 --> 01:15:21,104
[Susan] This family comes first.

1576
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,483
We're the ones he chose.

1577
01:15:24,566 --> 01:15:26,693
♪♪

1578
01:15:46,338 --> 01:15:47,506
- [Ronnie] Lo-lo.
- What?

1579
01:15:47,589 --> 01:15:49,842
- Give me huggie?
- No.

1580
01:15:51,385 --> 01:15:55,013
[Susan] He's very good with them.
He's very patient.

1581
01:15:55,097 --> 01:15:56,640
♪♪

1582
01:16:18,412 --> 01:16:20,747
♪♪

1583
01:16:22,875 --> 01:16:25,419
[Shawn] Quitting too soon,
you might have regrets.

1584
01:16:25,502 --> 01:16:28,005
Lee Haney was 31 years old,
but he had 8 Sandows,

1585
01:16:28,088 --> 01:16:31,425
nothing else to prove,
and he was able to turn the page.

1586
01:16:31,508 --> 01:16:33,802
The majority of the guys
are gonna go out of this sport

1587
01:16:33,886 --> 01:16:35,929
a loser, so how do you go out, you know?

1588
01:16:36,013 --> 01:16:38,640
I think Ronnie's one of those
guys that would go out fighting.

1589
01:16:38,724 --> 01:16:41,560
♪♪

1590
01:16:41,643 --> 01:16:46,315
With Ronnie, win or lose,
he always was always the same, you know?

1591
01:16:46,398 --> 01:16:49,109
And he's always been
very humble like that,

1592
01:16:49,193 --> 01:16:51,195
and, you know,
I can appreciate who he is

1593
01:16:51,278 --> 01:16:53,572
because that's
what makes a champion, is...

1594
01:16:53,655 --> 01:16:55,699
someone that can stand on all stages

1595
01:16:55,782 --> 01:16:58,702
and be thankful for every gift
that they're given,

1596
01:16:58,785 --> 01:17:01,622
and indirectly affect a lot of people.

1597
01:17:01,705 --> 01:17:06,835
I didn't wanna see Ronnie Coleman
get on stage in 2007.

1598
01:17:06,919 --> 01:17:09,796
I didn't wanna see him push
and not get rewarded.

1599
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,966
It's hard to advise bodybuilders
of that caliber

1600
01:17:13,050 --> 01:17:14,370
what they should or shouldn't do,

1601
01:17:14,426 --> 01:17:16,887
because they are in control
of their careers.

1602
01:17:16,970 --> 01:17:19,181
But I think Ronnie Coleman did
what was best for him.

1603
01:17:19,264 --> 01:17:21,659
If there was a way for him
to compete tomorrow, or next week,

1604
01:17:21,683 --> 01:17:23,268
or this year, Ronnie Coleman,

1605
01:17:23,352 --> 01:17:25,163
I don't think any of us
would stop him from doing it.

1606
01:17:25,187 --> 01:17:27,356
Thank God he's not a boxer,
because he'd probably be,

1607
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,233
you know, brain dead.

1608
01:17:29,316 --> 01:17:33,320
People, they know the type of talent,
and they know how hard I worked,

1609
01:17:33,403 --> 01:17:36,990
and they know
I put my all and all into it.

1610
01:17:37,074 --> 01:17:39,618
You know, I don't have any
regrets about it, you know, so.

1611
01:17:39,701 --> 01:17:43,664
Everybody said, "Oh, what a shame.
That's how we'll remember him."

1612
01:17:43,747 --> 01:17:46,041
No, you'll remember the eight-time champ.

1613
01:17:46,124 --> 01:17:47,876
Nobody remembers
the fourth time.

1614
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,795
Nobody remembers Muhammad Ali,

1615
01:17:49,878 --> 01:17:52,214
last two or three fights,
being in shambles.

1616
01:17:52,297 --> 01:17:54,716
They remember the king
when he was on top.

1617
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,385
That's how they'll remember Ronnie,

1618
01:17:56,468 --> 01:17:58,846
with that big smile and that personality

1619
01:17:58,929 --> 01:18:00,430
who's got time for everybody,

1620
01:18:00,514 --> 01:18:02,432
who's never turned
a fan down.

1621
01:18:02,516 --> 01:18:04,852
I've never seen in
a temperamental mood.

1622
01:18:04,935 --> 01:18:06,895
So he's got a great legacy.

1623
01:18:06,979 --> 01:18:09,439
As well as being the best
bodybuilder of all time,

1624
01:18:09,523 --> 01:18:11,000
he's one of the most loved, I'm sure.

1625
01:18:11,024 --> 01:18:13,026
♪♪

1626
01:18:24,037 --> 01:18:25,789
♪♪

1627
01:18:40,387 --> 01:18:42,848
Not used to getting up
in the morning, you know.

1628
01:18:45,559 --> 01:18:47,352
Takes a minute for me to get going.

1629
01:18:48,604 --> 01:18:50,189
Not really used to it.

1630
01:18:53,192 --> 01:18:54,651
Never get used to it.

1631
01:18:57,988 --> 01:18:59,948
I've been here almost 30 years now.

1632
01:19:05,579 --> 01:19:06,788
Long time.

1633
01:19:07,831 --> 01:19:11,376
Yeah, when I first came here,
there was hardly nothing here.

1634
01:19:11,460 --> 01:19:14,129
Weren't that many people or nothing.

1635
01:19:14,213 --> 01:19:18,425
Now, man, it's just doubled in size.

1636
01:19:19,384 --> 01:19:20,427
Just like that.

1637
01:19:21,929 --> 01:19:23,847
They put up houses everywhere,

1638
01:19:23,931 --> 01:19:25,516
do all kinds of stuff.

1639
01:19:25,599 --> 01:19:27,726
Made this place huge.

1640
01:19:31,480 --> 01:19:34,691
I came to this city and this gym
about the same time.

1641
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,986
It was thirty-something years now.

1642
01:19:39,738 --> 01:19:40,739
Yup.

1643
01:19:41,490 --> 01:19:43,825
♪♪

1644
01:19:54,294 --> 01:19:56,773
- [man] How you feeling, bro?
- [Ronnie] Same old, same old. You?

1645
01:19:56,797 --> 01:19:58,298
[man] Another day at the office.

1646
01:19:58,382 --> 01:20:01,760
- Little bit cooler this morning.
- Yeah, I was surprised.

1647
01:20:01,844 --> 01:20:03,887
[man] Warm yesterday during the day.

1648
01:20:03,971 --> 01:20:06,651
[Ronnie] It was warm yesterday.
I got up this morning, went outside.

1649
01:20:11,979 --> 01:20:14,523
When I first got out of the hospital,

1650
01:20:14,606 --> 01:20:16,066
both my legs were numb.

1651
01:20:16,149 --> 01:20:20,112
Now I got to the point
where just one is numb.

1652
01:20:20,195 --> 01:20:23,657
The numbness is going away slowly.

1653
01:20:23,740 --> 01:20:26,159
I remember when I had my neck done,

1654
01:20:26,243 --> 01:20:28,871
uh, the doctor told me
it was gonna take two years

1655
01:20:28,954 --> 01:20:30,581
for the numbness to go away.

1656
01:20:30,664 --> 01:20:33,083
And I remember two years to the date,

1657
01:20:33,166 --> 01:20:35,169
the numbness went away totally.

1658
01:20:35,252 --> 01:20:38,547
So I know that if my neck can recover

1659
01:20:38,630 --> 01:20:40,424
and the numbness can go away there,

1660
01:20:40,507 --> 01:20:44,261
that I can recover, also,
in my legs and stuff.

1661
01:20:45,012 --> 01:20:47,598
If somebody embodied
what Mr. Olympia was like,

1662
01:20:47,681 --> 01:20:49,841
I think Ronnie Coleman probably
loved being Mr. Olympia

1663
01:20:49,892 --> 01:20:52,352
more than anybody else.
And I had to be happy for him.

1664
01:20:52,436 --> 01:20:54,188
[Kevin]
But Ronnie Coleman took bodybuilding

1665
01:20:54,271 --> 01:20:58,525
to another whole level when
it came to size and symmetry.

1666
01:20:58,609 --> 01:21:00,944
Size and symmetry.

1667
01:21:01,028 --> 01:21:03,947
You know, we had someone
like Dorian that introduced mass

1668
01:21:04,031 --> 01:21:05,824
into the bodybuilding era,

1669
01:21:05,908 --> 01:21:08,577
but then Ronnie did it
with aesthetics as well.

1670
01:21:08,660 --> 01:21:10,704
I don't think there's still
been anybody since

1671
01:21:10,787 --> 01:21:14,166
that, you know,
brought the same combination

1672
01:21:14,249 --> 01:21:17,461
of size, shape, and condition.

1673
01:21:17,544 --> 01:21:19,230
Not only with a great chest,
not only with a great back,

1674
01:21:19,254 --> 01:21:21,798
not only with all those arms
and everything...

1675
01:21:21,882 --> 01:21:24,343
shoulders, glute, hamstring.

1676
01:21:24,426 --> 01:21:27,095
It was just unparalleled.

1677
01:21:27,179 --> 01:21:28,639
He just had it all.

1678
01:21:28,722 --> 01:21:32,476
He had the training,
he had the crazy diet that was...

1679
01:21:32,559 --> 01:21:35,437
He was able to eat, you know,
all these crazy things,

1680
01:21:35,521 --> 01:21:37,231
and be able to still get that kinda shape.

1681
01:21:37,314 --> 01:21:41,026
He brought a lot to the table,
you know, and, uh...

1682
01:21:41,109 --> 01:21:44,446
He was the strongest
Mr. Olympia of all time.

1683
01:21:44,530 --> 01:21:45,989
♪♪

1684
01:21:46,073 --> 01:21:47,574
Oh, yeah!

1685
01:21:48,492 --> 01:21:50,994
- Keep going!
- [man] Yeah, baby!

1686
01:21:51,078 --> 01:21:53,413
♪♪

1687
01:21:55,999 --> 01:21:59,253
[shouting]

1688
01:21:59,336 --> 01:22:01,672
Lightweight, baby!

1689
01:22:01,755 --> 01:22:04,424
Yeah!

1690
01:22:04,508 --> 01:22:06,552
Yeah! Lightweight!

1691
01:22:06,635 --> 01:22:08,220
Yeah, baby!

1692
01:22:08,303 --> 01:22:11,098
[Jay] He was a beast, and, you know,
he set a new standard

1693
01:22:11,181 --> 01:22:13,934
for bodybuilding, which,
you know, came to my time,

1694
01:22:14,017 --> 01:22:15,894
and I couldn't get as big as him.

1695
01:22:15,978 --> 01:22:19,106
Phil Heath took over, he's not even close
to big as Ronnie was.

1696
01:22:19,189 --> 01:22:21,525
You know, they can't compare
Phil Heath to Ronnie Coleman.

1697
01:22:21,608 --> 01:22:23,878
Ronnie Coleman was challenged
by Hall of Fame bodybuilders,

1698
01:22:23,902 --> 01:22:26,822
and, of course,
in Phil Heath era, he's not.

1699
01:22:26,905 --> 01:22:29,199
And I say this today, I still think that

1700
01:22:29,283 --> 01:22:32,828
Ronnie Coleman, at his best,
would still win the Mr. Olympia today.

1701
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:46,675
I don't know if you can say mindfuck,
but it's a mindfuck to the max.

1702
01:22:46,758 --> 01:22:52,472
Like, you can't imagine coming from
being the upper echelon of your sport

1703
01:22:52,556 --> 01:22:54,766
to not being that anymore,

1704
01:22:54,850 --> 01:22:57,186
and then just having to deal
with that part.

1705
01:22:57,269 --> 01:23:00,606
To be on the other side of that
is pretty hard, you know?

1706
01:23:01,607 --> 01:23:04,067
I won't lie, I cried the first time.

1707
01:23:05,694 --> 01:23:07,922
You know, I never told him
that or anything, but, you know,

1708
01:23:07,946 --> 01:23:11,617
seeing him like... 'cause to me,
his strength was supernatural.

1709
01:23:11,700 --> 01:23:15,621
I mean, it was so above
and beyond everybody else's.

1710
01:23:16,788 --> 01:23:19,833
You know, it was very, very hard
to see that, you know,

1711
01:23:19,917 --> 01:23:21,084
especially when the hips went

1712
01:23:21,168 --> 01:23:23,045
and he had to use a walker
and all that.

1713
01:23:23,128 --> 01:23:25,130
That was tough for me.

1714
01:23:25,214 --> 01:23:28,342
And, you know, he got down to,
I don't know, 215 pounds

1715
01:23:28,425 --> 01:23:30,844
probably at one point, maybe.
You know, 220.

1716
01:23:31,512 --> 01:23:35,098
And I mean, I'd never seen him
that small ever, you know?

1717
01:23:35,933 --> 01:23:37,309
♪♪

1718
01:24:12,386 --> 01:24:14,179
[dishes clattering]

1719
01:24:30,195 --> 01:24:32,281
- [Susan] Lola.
- [groggy] Hello.

1720
01:24:34,157 --> 01:24:35,450
Wake up.

1721
01:24:37,286 --> 01:24:39,037
[groaning]

1722
01:24:39,121 --> 01:24:40,289
[Susan] I know.

1723
01:24:40,372 --> 01:24:42,165
[engine humming]

1724
01:24:47,212 --> 01:24:50,108
[sportscaster] The Nuggets whisper up
on the Clippers for the eighth spot.

1725
01:24:50,132 --> 01:24:53,177
- [Ronnie] Where you at?
- [male voice] About five minutes away.

1726
01:24:53,260 --> 01:24:55,697
- [Ronnie] Okay, all right. I was just...
- [male voice] Five minutes away.

1727
01:24:55,721 --> 01:24:58,140
...making sure you made it okay.

1728
01:24:58,724 --> 01:25:00,535
[male voice]
Oh, yeah. Be there in just a minute.

1729
01:25:00,559 --> 01:25:02,311
- You okay? Doing good?
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1730
01:25:02,394 --> 01:25:05,439
I'm all good.
Ready to get this over with.

1731
01:25:06,106 --> 01:25:08,251
[male voice] I heard that, man.
Wish it was already done.

1732
01:25:08,275 --> 01:25:09,484
You and me both.

1733
01:25:11,111 --> 01:25:13,238
All right, we'll see you in a minute.

1734
01:25:13,322 --> 01:25:15,157
- All right, big bro.
- All right, bye.

1735
01:25:15,908 --> 01:25:18,178
[Ronnie] See, this surgery's gonna last
only like three hours,

1736
01:25:18,202 --> 01:25:20,162
but the only thing about it is...

1737
01:25:20,704 --> 01:25:22,289
instead of going through my back,

1738
01:25:22,372 --> 01:25:24,124
because I've had
so many back surgeries

1739
01:25:24,208 --> 01:25:25,834
and I have so much scar tissue there,

1740
01:25:25,918 --> 01:25:27,395
they've gotta go through
the front now.

1741
01:25:27,419 --> 01:25:29,213
In order to go through the front,

1742
01:25:29,296 --> 01:25:32,758
there's all this stuff in the front,
you know, to get to the back.

1743
01:25:32,841 --> 01:25:34,718
So he's gotta take out my intestines.

1744
01:25:34,801 --> 01:25:37,721
Gotta take those out
to get to the back.

1745
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,850
So, he said this surgery
should last about three hours,

1746
01:25:41,934 --> 01:25:45,103
but the recovery time is gonna be
the same as the last surgery.

1747
01:25:45,187 --> 01:25:46,187
Six months again.

1748
01:25:49,650 --> 01:25:51,002
- You made it in, huh?
- Of course.

1749
01:25:51,026 --> 01:25:52,528
Yeah, the traffic's always fun.

1750
01:25:52,611 --> 01:25:54,130
You ready to go,
ready to do this thing?

1751
01:25:54,154 --> 01:25:56,657
[Ronnie] I remember the doctor said
when he took a break

1752
01:25:56,740 --> 01:25:58,700
he would always go out
and talk to my mom.

1753
01:25:58,784 --> 01:26:00,369
She was there the whole time.

1754
01:26:01,245 --> 01:26:05,666
Unfortunately, she's no longer here
'cause she passed away in August

1755
01:26:05,749 --> 01:26:08,085
from, you know, pancreatic cancer.

1756
01:26:08,168 --> 01:26:10,170
You know, she was always there
at all my surgeries.

1757
01:26:10,254 --> 01:26:13,465
So, you know, that's gonna be
real hard to go through

1758
01:26:13,549 --> 01:26:15,843
and not have her there,
'cause I'm so used to,

1759
01:26:15,926 --> 01:26:18,011
you know, waking up
and seeing her.

1760
01:26:18,095 --> 01:26:20,347
♪♪

1761
01:26:20,430 --> 01:26:21,991
[doctor] All right, Ronnie.
Let's get this thing done.

1762
01:26:22,015 --> 01:26:22,850
Yeah, buddy.

1763
01:26:22,933 --> 01:26:25,602
♪♪

1764
01:26:31,692 --> 01:26:33,777
- We're gonna back you in.
- Okay.

1765
01:26:34,862 --> 01:26:37,739
♪♪

1766
01:26:41,827 --> 01:26:43,829
[Jay] It's very sad, you know?

1767
01:26:43,912 --> 01:26:46,498
It hits hard for me, because...

1768
01:26:46,582 --> 01:26:48,292
remember,
I stood next to him,

1769
01:26:48,375 --> 01:26:50,002
and battled him, and, uh...

1770
01:26:50,085 --> 01:26:51,879
I admired the way he trained,

1771
01:26:51,962 --> 01:26:53,297
and sometimes I wish...

1772
01:26:53,380 --> 01:26:54,882
I'd go,
"Man, I wish I could do that."

1773
01:26:54,965 --> 01:26:58,218
And now I look at it and say,
"Wow," you know...

1774
01:26:58,302 --> 01:26:59,511
You know, "What did it?"

1775
01:26:59,595 --> 01:27:00,804
I don't know the answer,

1776
01:27:00,888 --> 01:27:03,682
'cause Ronnie's not gonna cry
about anything.

1777
01:27:03,765 --> 01:27:05,392
That's the thing
about Ronnie Coleman.

1778
01:27:05,475 --> 01:27:07,436
He's not gonna make excuses for himself,

1779
01:27:07,519 --> 01:27:09,188
"Well, this is why it happened."

1780
01:27:10,105 --> 01:27:12,900
He'd rather just say...
you know, when people say, "Hey..."

1781
01:27:13,442 --> 01:27:14,776
You know, "You're laid up.

1782
01:27:14,860 --> 01:27:16,629
You had this many surgeries.
What do you think?"

1783
01:27:16,653 --> 01:27:17,779
He goes, "Well...

1784
01:27:19,031 --> 01:27:21,533
I'm really disappointed
I only squatted 800 twice."

1785
01:27:22,618 --> 01:27:24,036
That's just Ronnie.

1786
01:27:24,119 --> 01:27:27,956
Everything negative is a positive to him,
and that's why he's great.

1787
01:27:28,832 --> 01:27:31,627
I think I could've got five with 800.

1788
01:27:32,336 --> 01:27:33,462
I could've got five reps.

1789
01:27:33,545 --> 01:27:36,131
I think I could've got five easy reps,

1790
01:27:36,757 --> 01:27:42,596
But I went... I did the 800 squat,
and then I went to the leg press

1791
01:27:42,679 --> 01:27:45,807
and I put 2,300 on there,
and I got 8 reps.

1792
01:27:45,891 --> 01:27:47,976
So I kinda made up for it there.

1793
01:27:48,060 --> 01:27:52,940
I can't feel sad for Ronnie Coleman,
because I knew

1794
01:27:53,023 --> 01:27:55,442
that there would be a price
to pay for what he was doing,

1795
01:27:55,526 --> 01:27:57,778
and I think, for him,
that price was worth it.

1796
01:27:57,861 --> 01:27:59,214
Ronnie Coleman was
one of the few bodybuilders

1797
01:27:59,238 --> 01:28:02,074
that paid his house off,
bought his mom a house,

1798
01:28:02,157 --> 01:28:05,827
took care of his entire family,
created his own supplement line,

1799
01:28:05,911 --> 01:28:09,081
and had multiple opportunities worldwide

1800
01:28:09,164 --> 01:28:11,041
to see the globe,
as a result of what he did.

1801
01:28:11,124 --> 01:28:13,585
So, if this is the price
you have to pay,

1802
01:28:13,669 --> 01:28:16,547
I think if you ask Ronnie,
he'd say he'd do it again.

1803
01:28:16,630 --> 01:28:18,590
If you ask me, I would say it's foolish.

1804
01:28:18,674 --> 01:28:19,967
I would never do that.

1805
01:28:20,050 --> 01:28:22,094
I don't want any of those
Sandow trophies

1806
01:28:22,177 --> 01:28:25,264
to have the body that 53,
54-year-old Ronnie Coleman has.

1807
01:28:25,347 --> 01:28:28,058
It wouldn't be worth it for my lifestyle.

1808
01:28:28,141 --> 01:28:31,353
And that's why you gotta respect the guy,
because he could be crying to everyone,

1809
01:28:31,436 --> 01:28:33,063
"Well, I'm so beat up," and, you know,

1810
01:28:33,146 --> 01:28:34,398
"Bodybuilding did this to me,"

1811
01:28:34,481 --> 01:28:36,733
but Ronnie's enjoying his time
with his kids,

1812
01:28:36,817 --> 01:28:38,986
he's doing his travel still.

1813
01:28:39,069 --> 01:28:42,197
He's making the best of it.
He's wheeling in expos in a wheelchair.

1814
01:28:42,281 --> 01:28:44,116
I feel sorry that it happened,

1815
01:28:44,199 --> 01:28:46,159
but I don't think Ronnie
feels sorry about it,

1816
01:28:46,243 --> 01:28:48,537
because, you know what?
He just did what he had to do

1817
01:28:48,620 --> 01:28:50,539
to be the greatest bodybuilder
of all time.

1818
01:28:51,290 --> 01:28:54,126
And he will go down in history as
the greatest bodybuilder of all time.

1819
01:28:54,918 --> 01:28:56,837
[cheering]

1820
01:28:57,546 --> 01:28:59,798
♪♪

1821
01:29:05,012 --> 01:29:08,724
[kids laughing]

1822
01:29:16,064 --> 01:29:17,482
[Ronnie] Hold on tight, Laila.

1823
01:29:31,288 --> 01:29:34,291
I've been bodybuilding for 10 years...

1824
01:29:35,375 --> 01:29:37,336
and I've been working here for 12.

1825
01:29:40,714 --> 01:29:44,968
And the famous question is,
"Why do you still work here...

1826
01:29:45,552 --> 01:29:48,305
and you're Mr. Olympia,
two-time Mr. Olympia?"

1827
01:29:49,181 --> 01:29:51,308
My answer to that question is,

1828
01:29:51,934 --> 01:29:53,310
"Because I love it."

1829
01:29:58,732 --> 01:30:01,235
♪♪

1830
01:30:01,318 --> 01:30:03,487
♪ Nothing gon' stop me ♪

1831
01:30:03,570 --> 01:30:04,696
♪♪

1832
01:30:04,780 --> 01:30:06,406
♪ Nothing ♪

1833
01:30:06,490 --> 01:30:08,700
♪ Ha, like Ronnie Coleman ♪

1834
01:30:08,784 --> 01:30:10,452
♪ Flex, hater ♪

1835
01:30:11,286 --> 01:30:12,746
♪ That's why I'm flexing on ♪

1836
01:30:13,372 --> 01:30:16,041
♪ All year long
like I'm Ronnie Coleman ♪

1837
01:30:16,124 --> 01:30:19,461
♪ I believe you got me wrong
if you think you can hold me ♪

1838
01:30:19,545 --> 01:30:22,047
♪ Yeah, you only count me out
but you can't control it ♪

1839
01:30:22,130 --> 01:30:23,330
♪ I won't let you control it ♪

1840
01:30:23,382 --> 01:30:25,884
I was just in China, you know...

1841
01:30:25,968 --> 01:30:28,428
and, you know,
there's a language barrier and everything,

1842
01:30:28,512 --> 01:30:31,390
but whenever I said something like...

1843
01:30:31,473 --> 01:30:33,183
- Lightweight, baby.
- Lightweight.

1844
01:30:33,267 --> 01:30:36,395
..."Lightweight, baby,"
everybody got it without the interpreter.

1845
01:30:36,478 --> 01:30:37,896
♪ Yeah, yeah ♪

1846
01:30:37,980 --> 01:30:40,232
♪ No gain and never fold
I was told ♪

1847
01:30:40,315 --> 01:30:42,776
♪♪

1848
01:30:42,860 --> 01:30:45,696
♪ That's why it's ride or die,
rain or hell, sleet or snow ♪

1849
01:30:45,779 --> 01:30:47,614
♪ Full throttle, on go ♪

1850
01:30:48,532 --> 01:30:49,532
♪ Now, if you don't ♪

1851
01:30:49,575 --> 01:30:51,577
Ronnie took the time to write
back to every fan.

1852
01:30:52,327 --> 01:30:53,887
And the people around us would be like,

1853
01:30:53,912 --> 01:30:56,915
"Man, I can't keep up to Ronnie,"
you know?

1854
01:30:56,999 --> 01:30:58,458
He had everything timed perfect,

1855
01:30:58,542 --> 01:31:00,419
but he would sit and do his emails, like,

1856
01:31:00,502 --> 01:31:03,547
at that super early time
of the morning, to every fan.

1857
01:31:03,630 --> 01:31:04,882
♪ Commitment ♪

1858
01:31:04,965 --> 01:31:06,133
♪ Push it past the pain ♪

1859
01:31:06,216 --> 01:31:09,094
♪ as you remain persistent ♪

1860
01:31:09,178 --> 01:31:12,014
♪ I'm willing to prove
I want it badder than you ♪

1861
01:31:12,097 --> 01:31:15,267
♪ Feel like I'll die if I don't
try to show the world my view ♪

1862
01:31:15,350 --> 01:31:19,021
♪ I laugh with y'all while
the haters laugh at me ♪

1863
01:31:19,104 --> 01:31:22,316
♪ Humbly accepting
my victory while casual ♪

1864
01:31:22,399 --> 01:31:24,651
♪ Making them bow down
to your majesty ♪

1865
01:31:24,735 --> 01:31:25,944
♪ And now they mad at me ♪

1866
01:31:26,028 --> 01:31:27,779
♪ I know they mad at me ♪

1867
01:31:27,863 --> 01:31:30,240
♪ That's why I'm flexing on ♪

1868
01:31:30,324 --> 01:31:32,427
[Victor] I had to throw everything
I had from New York,

1869
01:31:32,451 --> 01:31:34,131
and he said the best burgers are in Texas.

1870
01:31:34,161 --> 01:31:35,513
I said, "No way, Ronnie,"
I took him to...

1871
01:31:35,537 --> 01:31:37,664
I had to take him to Old Homestead.

1872
01:31:37,748 --> 01:31:38,999
I'm just kinda looking at him,

1873
01:31:39,082 --> 01:31:40,959
"Oh, I hope I'm right.
I hope...

1874
01:31:41,043 --> 01:31:42,628
I hope I'm right."

1875
01:31:42,711 --> 01:31:45,005
You know, took Mr. Olympia,
you know, arguing with him

1876
01:31:45,088 --> 01:31:46,798
on the best burger in Texas.

1877
01:31:46,882 --> 01:31:49,468
So, bites into this burger...

1878
01:31:50,385 --> 01:31:52,554
all he kept saying was,

1879
01:31:52,638 --> 01:31:54,973
"Man, this ain't no burger.

1880
01:31:56,058 --> 01:31:57,684
This ain't no burger!"

1881
01:31:57,768 --> 01:32:00,020
And I was like,
"Yes, I think I got him."

1882
01:32:01,063 --> 01:32:03,023
♪ Bear hug a bear ♪

1883
01:32:03,106 --> 01:32:04,274
♪ I don't care ♪

1884
01:32:04,358 --> 01:32:07,402
♪ In the Valley of Death,
only God I fear ♪

1885
01:32:07,486 --> 01:32:08,612
♪ Count me out ♪

1886
01:32:08,695 --> 01:32:10,113
♪ I count me in ♪

1887
01:32:10,197 --> 01:32:13,784
♪ Just when you thought
I would end ♪

1888
01:32:13,867 --> 01:32:17,037
♪ You realize I begin ♪

1889
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:18,872
♪ And that's why I'm flexing ♪

1890
01:32:18,956 --> 01:32:21,250
♪ That's why I'm flexing on ♪

1891
01:32:21,333 --> 01:32:23,836
♪ All year long
like I'm Ronnie Coleman ♪

1892
01:32:23,919 --> 01:32:27,047
♪ I believe you got me wrong
if you think you can hold me ♪

1893
01:32:27,130 --> 01:32:29,466
♪ Yeah, you only count me out
but you can't control it ♪

1894
01:32:29,550 --> 01:32:31,468
♪ I won't let you control it ♪

1895
01:32:31,552 --> 01:32:33,846
♪ That's why I'm flexing on ♪

1896
01:32:33,929 --> 01:32:36,807
♪ All year long
like I'm Ronnie Coleman ♪

1897
01:32:36,890 --> 01:32:40,060
♪ I believe you got me wrong
if you think you can hold me ♪

1898
01:32:40,143 --> 01:32:42,938
♪ Yeah, you only count me out
but you can't control it ♪

1899
01:32:43,021 --> 01:32:44,565
♪ I won't let you control it ♪

1900
01:32:44,648 --> 01:32:46,608
♪ Yeah, yeah ♪

1901
01:32:46,692 --> 01:32:47,985
♪♪

1902
01:32:48,068 --> 01:32:53,782
[Ronnie] And after years of hard work
and struggles, you know,

1903
01:32:53,866 --> 01:32:57,244
I was able to get that Olympia title.

1904
01:32:57,786 --> 01:33:00,956
But, you know,
that's not the reason why I got into it.

1905
01:33:01,039 --> 01:33:02,642
The reason why I got into it
was 'cause he told me

1906
01:33:02,666 --> 01:33:04,334
he'd give me a free membership.