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[Lois] Washington, D.C.,
Philadelphia, Boston,

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Toronto, New York City,

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Detroit...
Milwaukee was amazing.

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-[Dennis] Best crowd
-Best crowd.

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-Phenomenal kids in Milwaukee.
-They were surfing.

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They were pullin' them out
one a minute.

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Props to the kids of Milwaukee,
of all places.

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-Why?
-Yeah.

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605 freeway, right?

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Yeah, you want 605.

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Yeah, we told you that story
that time we went to Texas

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to see Primal Scream

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and one of the roadies
looked at us.

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We knew him from like 1970s.

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And he looked at us. He says,
"Are you still doing this?"

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And I looked at him, I said,
"You're still doing this?"

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Now, it seems more
the band's supporting us

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-than we're supporting the band.
-[chuckles]

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But that half-hour that they're
on stage each night,

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there's energy then.

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It's just so uplifting

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or rock 'n roll.

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[rock music]

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I mean we go all over the world
and meet lots of people,

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but, you know,
we don't classically spend...

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[rock music]

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[Peter] But they are
a real pair of characters

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and everybody fuckin' knows 'em.

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[Damon] They drove to one show,
they drove so far

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that the wheel fell off the car.

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[cheering]

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[Robert] Rock 'n roll
is keeping them young

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and I think they plan
to live forever.

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[rock music]

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It's kind of ironic
when you get onstage

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and you realize your merch
people are more famous than you.

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[rock music]

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I like it when people give in
to their obsessions,

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you know, all the way.

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[Damian] The true punk rockers,
they genuinely believe
in free spirits,

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anybody can do it
kind of attitude.

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[rock music]

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[man] Best way
for the interviews to happen,

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by holding the microphone,
is to be as close
as possible to--

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-Yes, perfect.
-Okay.

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You've got it.

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You're listening to Jetlag
with me, Andy Rourke,
on East Village Radio.

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I'm here
with my very special guests,

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super music fans,
Dennis and Lois.

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We're talking about the life
and times and exploits

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of these two wonderful people.

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You gave me a list
and 50 percent of these bands

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have all slept on your sofa
or on your floor at some point.

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[Dennis] Or we on theirs.

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-[Lois] We get attracted
to the music.
-[Andy] Yeah.

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And I'm curious of what kind
of person created this music.

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[Andy] Yeah, yeah.

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And so I want
to get to know them

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and we spend time with them
and drive them around and...

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Wow.

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And, oh, you don't have
a place to sleep,

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well, you can stay
by us, and...Yeah.

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-[Andy] You're guardian angels.
-[Lois chuckles]

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How would I describe you,
as sofa to the stars?

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Super music fans?

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-[Dennis] Old.
-Old.

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-[chuckles] Old? Okay.
-In a word.

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So, we're talking
about your last forty years
exploits, basically.

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And I mentioned
the sofa thing earlier

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and you said
the first band was--

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[Dennis] A lot of people,
when they see us at gigs,

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wonder why we're still doing it.

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Love for music doesn't have a beginning or end.

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[rock music]

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[rock music]

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[Dennis] Nothing beats
a live concert.

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Nothing beats the emotion.

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The fact that you never know
what's going to happen.

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[rock music]

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As much pleasure as we get
from all of our records,
all of our CD's,

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for us it's an important ride.

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That's what we live for.

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[rock music]

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[Lois] Smoke started coming up.

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Everybody was doing
this mosh pit, slam dancing,

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and body surfing
and all this stuff
going on and like.

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And out there
I'm sitting in the chair.

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[rock music]

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I met Dennis and Lois
right before our first album
ever came out.

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Pretty much after that,
they were coming to every show
we had in New York.

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They were really cool
and they would just come
to all the shows.

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I remember someone tellin' me,

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"Hey, Ollie, your parents
are here at the show."

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And I was like, "Where?"

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And then... [laugh]

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It was Dennis and Lois.
They still got it.

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[rock music]

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[Lois] They're passing
the guitars over.

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They're passing guys over,
and they're doing all...

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And it was like
the most incredible show
I ever saw.

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[cheers and applause]

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[Dennis] Seeing the audience
happy after a gig
is just a good feeling.

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For an hour
or whatever on stage,

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these people
can make a difference
in so many people's lives.

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[Jon] I like the fact
that their life project

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seems to be collecting
all these toys

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and pursuing
the kind of thrill of live music

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way into, you know, a time
when it's not, acceptable

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in the ageist society
we live in.

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I'm supposed to have packed in
when I was thirty.

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I shouldn't be doing what I do.

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And Dennis and Lois
should definitely
not be doing what they do

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if you listen
to the powers that be
or the arbiters of taste.

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But you know what?

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People just keep on doing
what they love,

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and that's what's wonderful
about 'em.

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[Dennis] Uh...
What happened to my Presleys?

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I don't see any
of my Elvis pictures.

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[Dennis]
He was unbelievable live.

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The power he had in his voice
was just like, oh, my God.

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Unbelievable.

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[whirling]

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There's not too many people
I can think of

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who we haven't seen.

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We span the music
from the 50s through now,

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which is a wealth of beautiful
and wonderful music.

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[rock music]

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[Lois] I grew up in Brooklyn.
I was born in Flatbush.

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My grandparents
came from Brooklyn.

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When I was about thirteen,
I had a transistor radio

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and you listened to DJ's
and they became your friend.

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You listened to them
every night.

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They gave you advice.
They'd talk to you about life.

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They played music.

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Alan Freed, Murray The "K",
who brought the Beatles
to America

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had a rock 'n roll show
in downtown Brooklyn.

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And I went to these shows

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and I hung out by the stage door
to get autographs.

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I saw the Beatles
in the very begin--

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That's what started
a lot of this.

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I saw James Brown,
Marvin Gaye,

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and then I saw
The Rolling Stones
right after that.

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And I always liked
English music better.

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I grew up in New Jersey,
but I keep tryin'
to forget that.

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[chuckles]

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[Dennis] I was born in Hoboken,

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in the same hospital
that Sinatra was born in.

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When I was in high school,
I worked in television

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with Chuck McCann.

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And on the same station,
there was The Clay Cole Show.

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[Clay Cole] I started in 1963.

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I was doing a rock 'n roll show.

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And that's where
I first met Dennis.

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He was 15
when he came to our show

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and would hover
in the background.

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I could see his enthusiasm.

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He was in just total awe
of everything.

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[Dennis] And the show
just had everybody,
The Shirelles, The Supremes,

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Little Stevie Wonder,
when he was
Little Stevie Wonder.

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It was the first show in America The Rolling Stones did.

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[Clay Cole] In order to keep
my core audience,
which was the teenagers,

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Dennis became my meter.

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When he'd perk up
hearing a song, I'd know,

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oh, that's the one we got
to keep playing.

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It took the edge off
of an artist being a celebrity

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and made them a human being.

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So, I think that freed me up
for later on.

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When I'm with a band,

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I can separate the person
from the stage image.

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But I got all my early rock love through Clay and his show.

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I mean, Dennis goes back
to the early 1960s.

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before the British invasion,
and he never stopped.

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And I'm tellin you right now,
if you see him,
tell him to stop it already.

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[chuckles] I mean, how long can
you keep being a fan like that?

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Anything for you.

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[interviewer] So, I want
to know how you guys met.

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Was it a set up? Just--

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-[chuckles]
-[chuckles] Was it a set up?

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Yeah, we're six months apart,

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so, we're fortunate
in that we're both
from the same geographic area,

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we're the same age,

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so, all our points of reference,
all the stuff before we met
is basically the same.

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He had the same record
collection I had.

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I was like, uh... [laughs]

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We were watching
the same TV shows,

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listening to the same music.

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It just seemed
like a natural fit.

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The Monty Python Movie
was the very first date.

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One of those afternoon dates,

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so, if it doesn't work out,
you didn't waste the whole day.

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-[chuckles]
-It was-- [laughs]

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Then, when I first met him,
I said, well, we had sex,

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and I said, "Well,
some people just
get attracted to other people

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for this, uh, physical thing."

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And I said, "Well,
if he really likes me

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and if he's really interested
in these other things

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that I'm interested in,

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let's just get the sex
out of the way and,

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yeah, he's had it
and move on", but...

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-It didn't work.
-The music went past--

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[chuckles]
The music went past all that.

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The first real
evening date-date,
commitment date

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was CBGB's.

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[rock music]

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[Lois] CBGB's had just started.

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It was very curious, new music.

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-Neither one of us
knew anything about it.
-[Andy] Yeah.

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So, that was our first date
going to CBGB's.

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[Andy] Wow.

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And, um, Talking Heads
and Richard Hell were on stage.

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Amazing.

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And Lou Reed was shooting pool
at a pool table in the back.

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[Andy] I bet he was
shooting more than pool.

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[laugh]

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That's probably before there was
any graffiti in the toilet, huh?

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[Lois] Yeah. They had food.
It was just amazing.

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[Dennis] Yes, they actually
served food at CB's.

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And we actually ordered it.

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[Andy]
And it didn't smell of piss?

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-Well...
-Oh, well, uh... [laughs]

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[Lois] So, then,
the Ramones had played

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and we thought, like,
these people are amazing
and we went every night.

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[rock music]

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[Arturo] When an artist
inspires you as much

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as the Ramones inspired people,

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they attract a very,
very special kind of a fan.

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I could tell up to the first,
you know,

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maybe a couple of months
of shows at CBGB's

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that some of the faces
started looking familiar.

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Just a handful of them
that would be there

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most of the time,
if not all the time.

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I had noticed this couple,

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and I knew they were
like hardcore fans.

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[Dennis] We saw them
at CB's a bunch of times.

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Then we drove
to Antonio's Pizzeria

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in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,

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which is something like
a nine-hour drive each way

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to watch them
do a twenty-minute set.

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They thought we were either nuts

242
00:14:03,233 --> 00:14:05,192
or super cool when we did that.

243
00:14:05,845 --> 00:14:07,629
[Dennis] And we saw
in the beginning

244
00:14:07,672 --> 00:14:09,718
that Arturo Vega,
who did their lights,

245
00:14:09,761 --> 00:14:11,459
was also doing their merch.

246
00:14:11,502 --> 00:14:14,549
[Arturo] I would sell shirts at the beginning of the evening.

247
00:14:14,592 --> 00:14:17,769
Then, come show time,
I would put the T-shirts away,

248
00:14:17,813 --> 00:14:19,989
and then do the light show.

249
00:14:20,033 --> 00:14:22,644
During the last song, I would leave all the lights on,

250
00:14:22,687 --> 00:14:25,516
come back, run out, and start selling shirts again.

251
00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,867
And we figured
we're there anyway,

252
00:14:27,910 --> 00:14:30,521
why should he have to do that?
We can do it.

253
00:14:30,565 --> 00:14:33,524
[Arturo] Lois said, "We can
watch the T-shirts for you.

254
00:14:33,568 --> 00:14:36,179
You know, we'll start selling,
so you don't have to rush."

255
00:14:36,223 --> 00:14:38,573
Then I realized
that they were trustworthy

256
00:14:38,616 --> 00:14:40,270
and that they loved doing it,

257
00:14:40,314 --> 00:14:43,230
and that they were cool people to hang out with and to talk to.

258
00:14:43,273 --> 00:14:45,406
So, really fast, you know,
they became like

259
00:14:45,449 --> 00:14:47,016
members of the inner circle.

260
00:14:47,060 --> 00:14:49,149
And that's how it started.

261
00:14:56,721 --> 00:14:59,768
[Dennis] Lois used to mend
Joey's jeans.

262
00:14:59,811 --> 00:15:03,380
The Ramones' hallway.
Is that what you call it?

263
00:15:03,424 --> 00:15:05,295
[Dennis] Yep. Where do we start?

264
00:15:05,339 --> 00:15:07,907
The late 70s to the early 80s,

265
00:15:07,950 --> 00:15:10,735
these jeans
were the original jeans
from the beginning

266
00:15:10,779 --> 00:15:12,433
through
"Rock 'N Roll High School."

267
00:15:12,476 --> 00:15:13,695
[Monte] I can't believe
he fit in those.

268
00:15:14,739 --> 00:15:16,524
Those pants are unbelievable.

269
00:15:16,567 --> 00:15:19,483
[Dennis] There was one time
when John had a shit fit

270
00:15:19,527 --> 00:15:22,834
because Joey was takin'
like an hour and a half
to get his jeans on

271
00:15:22,878 --> 00:15:25,185
because he couldn't find
what hole to put
his foot through.

272
00:15:25,228 --> 00:15:27,187
[chuckles]

273
00:15:27,230 --> 00:15:29,232
So, he said, "That's it.
That's the last time
you're wearing these jeans."

274
00:15:29,276 --> 00:15:31,974
They threw them in the corner
and Lois said,
"Can we have 'em?"

275
00:15:32,018 --> 00:15:33,106
And he said, "Yeah, sure."

276
00:15:33,149 --> 00:15:34,542
Unbelievable.
What about the jacket?

277
00:15:34,585 --> 00:15:37,545
-Where'd you get the jacket?
-That's one of Dee's.

278
00:15:37,588 --> 00:15:39,721
-He gave it to you?
-Yeah.

279
00:15:39,764 --> 00:15:44,465
Post cards from Johnny
that read just like John.

280
00:15:44,508 --> 00:15:48,208
-I mean, they-- [chuckles]
-And from Spain. Wow.

281
00:15:48,251 --> 00:15:50,297
I hear the accent when I read
them.

282
00:15:50,340 --> 00:15:51,602
It's so John.

283
00:15:52,429 --> 00:15:55,563
And some lyrics
Joey was writing.

284
00:15:55,606 --> 00:15:56,868
[Monte] Huh.

285
00:15:56,912 --> 00:15:58,435
[Dennis] Some of this
went into other songs.

286
00:15:58,479 --> 00:16:01,482
Some of it are just words
that never were used.

287
00:16:01,525 --> 00:16:03,005
And he just said,
"Yeah, take it."

288
00:16:03,049 --> 00:16:05,007
But this is how Joey
used to write.

289
00:16:05,051 --> 00:16:07,009
[Monte]
What's this telegraph here?

290
00:16:07,053 --> 00:16:08,184
[Dennis] It was from Joe.

291
00:16:08,228 --> 00:16:10,317
"Been trying to get
in touch with you.

292
00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,190
Need your services
tomorrow morning at 1 o'clock.

293
00:16:14,234 --> 00:16:15,887
Very important.

294
00:16:16,410 --> 00:16:18,107
Joey Ramone."

295
00:16:18,151 --> 00:16:21,719
He actually needed Lois
to drive him somewhere,

296
00:16:21,763 --> 00:16:22,982
a doctor or something.

297
00:16:23,025 --> 00:16:24,244
[laughs] He sent you a telegram.

298
00:16:24,287 --> 00:16:25,941
-Unbelievable.
-Yeah. Yeah.

299
00:16:25,985 --> 00:16:28,030
I don't think I've ever
sent a telegram in my life.

300
00:16:28,074 --> 00:16:31,294
He's the reason
I learned how to drive.

301
00:16:31,338 --> 00:16:33,470
Really? Explain this.

302
00:16:33,514 --> 00:16:36,996
Because in the beginning,
when we got our first car,

303
00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:39,737
we'd follow you
to get to the gigs.

304
00:16:39,781 --> 00:16:40,825
Uh-huh.

305
00:16:40,869 --> 00:16:42,001
Because I didn't know
where I was.

306
00:16:42,697 --> 00:16:44,655
[chuckles]

307
00:16:44,699 --> 00:16:48,137
And you were drivin'
like at 90 miles an hour.

308
00:16:48,877 --> 00:16:50,183
[both chuckle]

309
00:16:50,226 --> 00:16:53,882
And I figured either I got
to stay watching him

310
00:16:53,925 --> 00:16:55,449
or I'm gonna be lost.

311
00:16:55,492 --> 00:16:56,667
[chuckles]

312
00:16:56,711 --> 00:16:58,669
So, I taught you
how to drive fast.

313
00:16:58,713 --> 00:17:00,280
[both laugh]

314
00:17:00,323 --> 00:17:01,498
[Dennis] I don't think
we would be in the position

315
00:17:01,542 --> 00:17:03,761
with a lot of bands today
that we are

316
00:17:03,805 --> 00:17:05,720
if it wasn't for Ramones.

317
00:17:05,763 --> 00:17:07,939
[Lois] Because we went
to CB's all the time,

318
00:17:07,983 --> 00:17:09,854
we got to meet all these
other bands.

319
00:17:09,898 --> 00:17:12,857
[Dennis] Maybe we would have ended up down that road anyway,

320
00:17:12,901 --> 00:17:14,859
but there's a good chance
we wouldn't have

321
00:17:14,903 --> 00:17:17,471
and our whole story
would have been different

322
00:17:17,514 --> 00:17:19,125
and there'd probably
be no story.

323
00:17:19,734 --> 00:17:23,042
[rock music]

324
00:17:27,394 --> 00:17:30,701
[Lois] We got to know
The Ramones, The Undertones,

325
00:17:30,745 --> 00:17:33,313
Adrian Wright, who became
The Human League.

326
00:17:33,356 --> 00:17:35,402
Then we got to know Mark Reeder,

327
00:17:35,445 --> 00:17:38,883
and then Mark Reeder
introduced us to New Order.

328
00:17:38,927 --> 00:17:40,929
[Dennis] And Nick Cave.

329
00:17:40,972 --> 00:17:43,192
[Lois] And Nick Cave.
'Cause Nick Cave used to stay
in Mark's house.

330
00:17:43,236 --> 00:17:45,281
Then we went
to England all the time.

331
00:17:45,325 --> 00:17:48,197
And then we got to meet
Jon Langford.

332
00:17:48,241 --> 00:17:49,851
He had The Three Johns.

333
00:17:49,894 --> 00:17:53,594
And then, we met the Mekons
and Captain Sensible

334
00:17:53,637 --> 00:17:54,899
and then The Damned.

335
00:17:55,509 --> 00:17:57,032
[Dennis] We're dead lucky

336
00:17:57,076 --> 00:18:01,341
that most of these people
seemed to get us and our passion

337
00:18:01,384 --> 00:18:03,082
right from the start

338
00:18:03,125 --> 00:18:06,476
and they realized, yeah,
these people are sincere.

339
00:18:12,439 --> 00:18:15,485
You sure it's not the time
that Mickey and Feargal

340
00:18:15,529 --> 00:18:17,835
came over and seen the Ramones
and met the Ramones.

341
00:18:17,879 --> 00:18:19,620
Oh, I wasn't there then.

342
00:18:21,187 --> 00:18:23,406
[Lois] Most of these people
are nice people

343
00:18:23,450 --> 00:18:27,802
if you go up to them and just
relate to them as people.

344
00:18:27,845 --> 00:18:31,632
There's an intimidation factor
with people

345
00:18:31,675 --> 00:18:34,156
about musicians, bands,

346
00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,028
especially the ones
that they really like

347
00:18:37,072 --> 00:18:39,292
that they're afraid to meet them

348
00:18:39,335 --> 00:18:41,032
or what are you
gonna say to them,

349
00:18:41,076 --> 00:18:43,513
or they're not gonna
want to talk to me.

350
00:18:43,557 --> 00:18:44,732
That's not the case.

351
00:18:44,775 --> 00:18:48,039
Especially if you approach them
as people

352
00:18:48,083 --> 00:18:51,130
and don't, "Oh, my God!
Oh, my God!"

353
00:18:51,173 --> 00:18:54,045
If somebody comes up to you
and stands there and says,

354
00:18:54,089 --> 00:18:57,179
"Oh, my God!" to you
and screams and it gets fanatic.

355
00:18:57,223 --> 00:18:59,529
I mean, it's a bit weird.
[chuckles]

356
00:18:59,573 --> 00:19:02,010
They get star struck
a little bit,

357
00:19:02,053 --> 00:19:03,533
but they know
how to get out of it

358
00:19:03,577 --> 00:19:05,448
because they know
they could just stand there

359
00:19:05,492 --> 00:19:09,800
or they could say something
and actually make contact
with that person.

360
00:19:09,844 --> 00:19:12,194
[Craig] I think
that Dennis and Lois
are able to connect

361
00:19:12,238 --> 00:19:13,935
more so maybe than other fans

362
00:19:13,978 --> 00:19:17,678
because somehow they're able
to communicate their sincerity

363
00:19:17,721 --> 00:19:20,028
in a way
that comes off very real.

364
00:19:20,071 --> 00:19:23,466
A lot of fans, unfortunately,
aren't able to do quite that.

365
00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:27,514
[Dennis] We'll meet them
a lot of times
to get autographs.

366
00:19:27,557 --> 00:19:30,125
We usually end up
talking with them

367
00:19:30,169 --> 00:19:34,521
because we don't fit the makeup of their normal audience

368
00:19:34,564 --> 00:19:35,913
because of our age.

369
00:19:35,957 --> 00:19:38,307
I think they relate to us
slightly different.

370
00:19:38,351 --> 00:19:40,875
And if there is a rapport,

371
00:19:40,918 --> 00:19:42,529
if there are things in common,

372
00:19:42,572 --> 00:19:44,531
if we get on with them
as people,

373
00:19:45,227 --> 00:19:48,187
then we continue
the connection as people.

374
00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:51,015
Possibly the first friends
I had around New York state,

375
00:19:51,538 --> 00:19:52,887
or the States even.

376
00:19:52,930 --> 00:19:55,411
-Joan, say, "Hi, Lois."
-Say, "Hi, Lois".

377
00:19:55,455 --> 00:19:57,587
-[Joan] Hi, Lois.
-[all chuckle]

378
00:19:57,631 --> 00:19:59,241
[Mani] Aren't they sweet.
You're being good.

379
00:19:59,285 --> 00:20:02,244
[Mani] They're my angle
on the New York punk scene.

380
00:20:02,288 --> 00:20:05,726
And, you know, they would go
to CBGB's and see the bands
who I grew up loving

381
00:20:05,769 --> 00:20:07,597
and just to be with them and hearin' some of the stories

382
00:20:07,641 --> 00:20:10,383
of who they had seen
and what they've been to and...

383
00:20:11,297 --> 00:20:13,951
you know it's living history,
man, in music.

384
00:20:13,995 --> 00:20:17,303
To have, you know, uh,
Lois or Dennis say, you know,

385
00:20:17,346 --> 00:20:19,261
our first date was the Ramones.

386
00:20:19,305 --> 00:20:21,394
And we saw
this many Ramones shows

387
00:20:21,437 --> 00:20:25,876
and we've seen this many shows,
uh, since, you know,
nineteen-seventy whatever,

388
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,313
and your band's awesome.

389
00:20:27,356 --> 00:20:29,793
That makes me feel better
than a guy who said,

390
00:20:29,837 --> 00:20:31,752
"I've been to four shows
in my life

391
00:20:31,795 --> 00:20:33,884
and yours is the best one
so far," you know.

392
00:20:33,928 --> 00:20:37,148
They're like really committed,
but not in an irritatin' way.

393
00:20:37,192 --> 00:20:39,150
They don't do that shit
that they come backstage

394
00:20:39,194 --> 00:20:41,588
and they'll kind of,
they'll sit there right
next to you, you know,

395
00:20:41,631 --> 00:20:43,764
and you'll be like sweating
after the gig.

396
00:20:43,807 --> 00:20:45,156
You just want
to be on your own,

397
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,723
not to sound
like a diva or anything.

398
00:20:46,767 --> 00:20:49,204
But you'll get some fans
who will follow you to the bar.

399
00:20:49,248 --> 00:20:50,988
You know, they'll come
and take a shit with ya.

400
00:20:51,032 --> 00:20:51,989
[chuckles]

401
00:20:52,033 --> 00:20:53,164
They're not like that at all.

402
00:20:53,208 --> 00:20:56,385
Yeah, we don't talk music
too much.

403
00:20:56,429 --> 00:20:57,995
Oh, we talk music, but--

404
00:20:58,039 --> 00:21:00,041
-Not their music.
-It's not a praise--

405
00:21:00,084 --> 00:21:01,172
More about music in general.

406
00:21:01,216 --> 00:21:02,522
[Dennis] We find another topic.

407
00:21:02,565 --> 00:21:06,700
With British bands,
it's britcoms, kids shows,

408
00:21:06,743 --> 00:21:08,963
science fiction
that was over there,

409
00:21:09,006 --> 00:21:12,096
that we were aware of
that we like,

410
00:21:12,140 --> 00:21:14,229
that's a common ground
with them.

411
00:21:14,273 --> 00:21:17,406
[Tim] They've been to a lot of our shows from at least '93.

412
00:21:17,450 --> 00:21:19,321
Um, that's the first time
I met them.

413
00:21:19,365 --> 00:21:21,323
That was at the Limelight.

414
00:21:21,367 --> 00:21:23,891
I remember the occasion,
and I think I'd be upset
if they didn't show up.

415
00:21:23,934 --> 00:21:25,980
For me it would mean
like we were doing
something wrong.

416
00:21:26,023 --> 00:21:28,591
[Lois] We'll tell them
that we like what they do.

417
00:21:29,462 --> 00:21:32,987
Or if they've had a bad night,
we'll say, "Mm-uh..."

418
00:21:33,553 --> 00:21:34,380
[chuckles]

419
00:21:35,946 --> 00:21:38,079
[Lois] And they accept
that we're honest with them.

420
00:21:38,122 --> 00:21:40,473
Like, not everybody
can be perfect all the time.

421
00:21:40,516 --> 00:21:42,301
[rock music]

422
00:21:42,953 --> 00:21:44,346
[Dennis]
It starts as a fan thing,

423
00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:46,392
but it develops
into a friendship

424
00:21:46,435 --> 00:21:49,438
in the sense that these people
will contact us.

425
00:21:49,482 --> 00:21:52,354
It's not just us
contacting them.

426
00:21:53,616 --> 00:21:57,968
["Millonaire" by Mekons]

427
00:21:58,012 --> 00:22:00,362
They were so generous
when the Mekons first came over

428
00:22:00,406 --> 00:22:03,757
and we'd stay at their house
when they lived in Brooklyn.

429
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,673
And it was tiny and it was entirely full of toys and games

430
00:22:06,716 --> 00:22:08,414
and we'd sleep
all over the floor.

431
00:22:08,457 --> 00:22:11,939
["Millonaire" by Mekons]

432
00:22:11,982 --> 00:22:14,202
By offering
all sorts of services

433
00:22:14,245 --> 00:22:15,986
became part of our lives.

434
00:22:16,030 --> 00:22:19,425
Actually, I think we became
part of their collection.

435
00:22:20,164 --> 00:22:22,819
[Sally] They arrived with their Mekons plates one day

436
00:22:22,863 --> 00:22:25,039
and it's never changed.

437
00:22:25,082 --> 00:22:28,259
They arrived with their Mekons
plates last night and that's
30 years down the line.

438
00:22:28,303 --> 00:22:29,391
[laughs]

439
00:22:29,435 --> 00:22:31,175
They had Ramones plates
on their car

440
00:22:31,219 --> 00:22:33,395
and they used to park here
up behind CBGB's.

441
00:22:33,439 --> 00:22:35,963
And every time
they'd get new plates,
someone would rip 'em off.

442
00:22:36,006 --> 00:22:39,706
I think after that they decided they really liked the Mekons,
so they got Mekons plates

443
00:22:39,749 --> 00:22:41,142
and no one ripped 'em off.

444
00:22:41,185 --> 00:22:43,710
-[laughs]
-[car honk]

445
00:22:46,539 --> 00:22:49,498
They started showing up
in their van to, like,

446
00:22:49,542 --> 00:22:51,979
take us to our rehearsals.

447
00:22:52,022 --> 00:22:54,590
And then they were
at every rehearsal,

448
00:22:55,374 --> 00:22:56,636
every rehearsal we had.

449
00:22:56,679 --> 00:22:58,202
We used to rehearse
like three times a week

450
00:22:58,246 --> 00:23:00,030
and they were
at every rehearsal.

451
00:23:00,074 --> 00:23:02,424
[interviewer] What would they do
in there, in rehearsal?

452
00:23:02,468 --> 00:23:04,644
They'd just stare at us
and smile

453
00:23:05,906 --> 00:23:08,604
and just nod their heads
and be well into the music.

454
00:23:08,648 --> 00:23:11,781
Kind of like, oh, we've got
two new band members

455
00:23:11,825 --> 00:23:13,392
and it's Dennis and Lois.

456
00:23:13,435 --> 00:23:14,828
They don't play anything,

457
00:23:14,871 --> 00:23:18,440
but they're in the band,
so to speak.

458
00:23:18,484 --> 00:23:19,963
They just fit right in.

459
00:23:20,007 --> 00:23:22,444
[Lois laughs]

460
00:23:22,488 --> 00:23:23,619
I think I'm gonna be mad.

461
00:23:23,663 --> 00:23:28,276
[Lois laughs]

462
00:23:32,236 --> 00:23:37,111
[Dennis] We've been together
night and day for 40 years.

463
00:23:37,154 --> 00:23:38,721
[Lois] You sure it's their van?

464
00:23:38,765 --> 00:23:40,636
[laughs] I don't-- Yeah.

465
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,377
[Lois] Yeah,
that's the other thing.

466
00:23:42,421 --> 00:23:46,163
We've been together 40 years,
but we've not gotten married.

467
00:23:46,207 --> 00:23:48,427
I mean, I asked her
to marry me in the beginning.

468
00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:49,863
She said, "No."
I said, "Okay."

469
00:23:50,690 --> 00:23:53,562
You know, if this is working,
this is working.

470
00:23:53,606 --> 00:23:56,391
[Lois] It's not about goin'
to some stranger

471
00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:58,524
and giving him money
and getting a piece of paper.

472
00:23:58,567 --> 00:23:59,829
It's about a relationship.

473
00:23:59,873 --> 00:24:01,962
Whether you have
this paper or not...

474
00:24:03,093 --> 00:24:05,226
[sighs] ...it doesn't make
any difference really.

475
00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:09,970
[soft rock music]

476
00:24:14,278 --> 00:24:16,455
[Dennis]
We're both only children,

477
00:24:16,498 --> 00:24:21,764
so I don't think having
a family ever was really
something we thought about.

478
00:24:23,287 --> 00:24:25,246
[Lois] And we thought
maybe we can do both.

479
00:24:25,289 --> 00:24:27,422
But I thought, no,
I don't think we can do both,

480
00:24:27,466 --> 00:24:30,556
so, we didn't have any
because we wanted
to have this life.

481
00:24:31,948 --> 00:24:33,080
[Dennis] But, no regrets.

482
00:24:34,864 --> 00:24:39,173
I honestly feel that music
has served us both
very well indeed.

483
00:24:49,879 --> 00:24:52,882
So, we were in Manchester,
selling shirts for the Ramones,

484
00:24:52,926 --> 00:24:55,929
and this father comes in
with his little kid

485
00:24:55,972 --> 00:24:58,279
and they asked us
about the Ramones.

486
00:24:58,322 --> 00:25:00,760
And I don't have
a little T-shirt
to sell this kid,

487
00:25:01,369 --> 00:25:02,718
even to give to him.

488
00:25:04,764 --> 00:25:06,853
And I said, "Do you want
to go backstage after the show
and meet the band?"

489
00:25:06,896 --> 00:25:07,810
And, "Yeah, yeah."

490
00:25:07,854 --> 00:25:12,162
[rock music]

491
00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:18,299
[Jimi] Dennis and Lois
were doing the merchandizing.

492
00:25:18,342 --> 00:25:21,824
I think they saw me
fucking freakin' out
to the Ramones

493
00:25:21,868 --> 00:25:24,348
and said, "Well, we can do it.
We can help this kid out."

494
00:25:24,392 --> 00:25:28,614
Wouldn't it be a gas
to introduce this kid
to the band?

495
00:25:28,657 --> 00:25:30,572
and they fucking did.

496
00:25:31,791 --> 00:25:33,314
I can remember
shaking Joey's hand.

497
00:25:33,357 --> 00:25:34,881
It was unbelievable.

498
00:25:36,143 --> 00:25:37,884
That was a really
magical memory.

499
00:25:38,449 --> 00:25:42,192
Years later, I listened
to this band, Doves,

500
00:25:42,236 --> 00:25:44,499
and I read in the NME,

501
00:25:44,543 --> 00:25:46,588
they talked to Jimi
and they said,

502
00:25:46,632 --> 00:25:49,896
"What made you decide
to do music as your life?"

503
00:25:49,939 --> 00:25:52,333
And he said
"Well, when I was six,

504
00:25:52,899 --> 00:25:54,988
these people took me
backstage to see them."

505
00:25:55,031 --> 00:25:57,904
And I was like,
"That's that kid?" [chuckles]

506
00:25:57,947 --> 00:26:01,037
[Jimi] My formation
as a musician,
they facilitated that.

507
00:26:04,301 --> 00:26:07,000
The seeds were set
by meetin' my idols.

508
00:26:08,392 --> 00:26:11,004
It's like out of a film, right?
You can't make it up.

509
00:26:15,486 --> 00:26:17,445
You know Lois is
like a mother figure.

510
00:26:17,488 --> 00:26:20,317
And that's what you need
when you're away from home.

511
00:26:20,361 --> 00:26:23,799
Yes, I suggest,
if you're into it,

512
00:26:23,843 --> 00:26:25,453
'cause this is it
for the whole tour.

513
00:26:25,496 --> 00:26:26,976
He only signed twelve posters.

514
00:26:27,020 --> 00:26:29,109
[Lois] When bands,

515
00:26:29,152 --> 00:26:31,894
they've given me music
and they've helped me just getting through your life.

516
00:26:31,938 --> 00:26:34,593
And if I can do something
to repay them,

517
00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:35,637
yeah, I'm here.

518
00:26:35,681 --> 00:26:37,160
Whatever you need me to do.

519
00:26:37,204 --> 00:26:41,730
Okay, so a poster. [sings]
That's forty altogether, please.

520
00:26:41,774 --> 00:26:44,254
[Lois] You are the musicians
and you shouldn't be doing it.

521
00:26:44,298 --> 00:26:45,691
We'll do it for you.

522
00:26:45,734 --> 00:26:47,170
That's what we know
how to do,

523
00:26:47,214 --> 00:26:48,911
stand there and sell T-shirts.

524
00:26:48,955 --> 00:26:51,174
Yeah. She'll go
get it signed for you.

525
00:26:52,132 --> 00:26:53,394
You got the last one.

526
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,266
[Robert]
They know the realities, like,

527
00:26:57,093 --> 00:26:59,139
by the time you get
to the East Coast you burn out

528
00:26:59,182 --> 00:27:00,227
and you could use it.

529
00:27:00,270 --> 00:27:02,055
You could use
a friend and a hand.

530
00:27:02,098 --> 00:27:04,971
And that's the real way
to say thanks, you know.

531
00:27:05,014 --> 00:27:06,233
And they know that shit

532
00:27:06,276 --> 00:27:09,236
and that's why
they're Dennis and Lois.

533
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:13,588
Black Rebel, when they,
the first time we saw them
opening for the Charlatans,

534
00:27:14,197 --> 00:27:17,374
they tried selling
their own merchandise
after the gig

535
00:27:17,418 --> 00:27:18,462
and they were hopeless.

536
00:27:19,855 --> 00:27:22,249
Plus they retired
from playing, so they really...

537
00:27:22,771 --> 00:27:24,425
But they had no idea who we were

538
00:27:24,468 --> 00:27:27,123
and we just said,
"You want help?
We'll sell your stuff."

539
00:27:27,167 --> 00:27:29,952
And they just handed over
a bag of merchandise to us

540
00:27:29,996 --> 00:27:32,085
not knowing
who the hell we were.

541
00:27:32,128 --> 00:27:33,913
If we were gonna
beat them out of money,

542
00:27:33,956 --> 00:27:35,566
beat them out
of their merchandise.

543
00:27:36,219 --> 00:27:38,700
Uh, I guess
we don't look threatening,

544
00:27:39,658 --> 00:27:42,399
'cause neither one of us
can run very fast

545
00:27:42,443 --> 00:27:44,793
to make a quick getaway, so.

546
00:27:44,837 --> 00:27:47,709
But, yeah,
we still do it to this day.

547
00:27:47,753 --> 00:27:51,060
It's just something
that's a natural extension

548
00:27:51,104 --> 00:27:52,975
or our way of saying thank you.

549
00:27:56,022 --> 00:27:57,327
[Lois] What street are we on?

550
00:27:57,980 --> 00:28:00,069
[Dennis] You're at Gary.
You got to worry about.

551
00:28:00,113 --> 00:28:01,549
You've not seen it yet.

552
00:28:01,592 --> 00:28:04,073
I told you the same thing
I told you a hundred times.

553
00:28:04,117 --> 00:28:07,555
Yeah, I've seen it
and I didn't say anything.

554
00:28:07,598 --> 00:28:09,470
I figure, oh,
let's keep this a secret.

555
00:28:10,863 --> 00:28:12,168
Look it's another Denny's.

556
00:28:12,212 --> 00:28:14,257
-Uh, Denny's.
-Denny's everywhere.

557
00:28:15,389 --> 00:28:16,956
You don't get any sleep

558
00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:20,002
and you don't eat
at normal times.

559
00:28:21,917 --> 00:28:24,180
And even when I go
in the room to sleep,

560
00:28:24,224 --> 00:28:26,530
I'm so wound up because
I've listened to this music.

561
00:28:29,925 --> 00:28:31,448
This probably would kill me,

562
00:28:31,492 --> 00:28:34,277
but I could do this
for the rest of my life

563
00:28:34,321 --> 00:28:36,366
and do just
what I'm doin' right now,

564
00:28:36,410 --> 00:28:39,065
just goin' around watching bands
who play every night.

565
00:28:40,327 --> 00:28:41,850
It's making me very happy.

566
00:28:42,764 --> 00:28:43,939
I just love it.

567
00:28:45,419 --> 00:28:48,248
[rock music]

568
00:28:53,470 --> 00:28:54,950
[beeping]

569
00:28:54,994 --> 00:28:58,040
[man] Hey,
another fucking amazing show.

570
00:28:58,084 --> 00:29:00,390
Uh, this rock 'n roll
is in our bloodstream.

571
00:29:01,914 --> 00:29:03,437
[Lois] God damn it.

572
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,787
We're out
in the middle of Nebraska.

573
00:29:05,831 --> 00:29:09,312
[Dennis] It's snowing
in Cheyenne, Wyoming.

574
00:29:09,356 --> 00:29:11,184
[woman] Hey, it's Analogue Girl.

575
00:29:11,227 --> 00:29:14,143
My God. Life is so good.

576
00:29:18,278 --> 00:29:19,975
[Dennis]
When we find a rest area.

577
00:29:20,019 --> 00:29:23,196
We're gonna pull over and pee
and sleep for an hour or two.

578
00:29:31,030 --> 00:29:33,249
[Lois] Everyone should have
the blessing

579
00:29:33,293 --> 00:29:36,122
of seeing a country
with a band they love.

580
00:29:39,647 --> 00:29:42,781
We've been cataloging
all the ticket stubs we have.

581
00:29:42,824 --> 00:29:44,043
We sit down.

582
00:29:44,086 --> 00:29:46,219
I read the date.
He logs it in a book.

583
00:29:47,437 --> 00:29:48,961
[interviewer] If you have
to estimate, how many shows?

584
00:29:50,005 --> 00:29:52,834
[Lois] We used to go
to maybe four shows a week.

585
00:29:52,878 --> 00:29:54,357
[Dennis] Sometimes,
three shows in a day.

586
00:29:54,401 --> 00:29:56,142
[Lois] Early show, late show.

587
00:29:56,185 --> 00:29:58,840
[Dennis] And real late show,
over 40 years.

588
00:29:58,884 --> 00:30:01,582
It could be a completely
ridiculous number,

589
00:30:01,625 --> 00:30:04,063
but I'm coming up
with like 10000 shows.

590
00:30:04,106 --> 00:30:07,457
[cheering and applause]

591
00:30:22,908 --> 00:30:25,432
[Adam]
We are an architecture firm
here in New York City.

592
00:30:25,475 --> 00:30:26,868
We do a lot of cultural work.

593
00:30:26,912 --> 00:30:29,218
So, a lot of museums,
performing arts' buildings,

594
00:30:29,262 --> 00:30:31,786
a lot of work
in New York proper.

595
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:34,049
This is called, uh...

596
00:30:34,093 --> 00:30:36,835
Westchester Community College.

597
00:30:36,878 --> 00:30:38,358
We're building a college.

598
00:30:38,924 --> 00:30:41,883
Lois is the head
of the print room

599
00:30:41,927 --> 00:30:46,061
and responsible for the quality
of documents printed.

600
00:30:46,105 --> 00:30:48,411
[Lois] There's my plaque
on the wall, 25 years.

601
00:30:50,152 --> 00:30:53,155
You can't guess
what you're gonna hear
when you talk to Lois.

602
00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:54,983
She can't wait
to tell you stories

603
00:30:55,027 --> 00:30:57,159
and she tells
the same story all day

604
00:30:57,203 --> 00:30:59,988
until everybody in the office
has heard that story.

605
00:31:00,032 --> 00:31:01,642
[Lois] This is all
my rock 'n roll stuff

606
00:31:01,685 --> 00:31:03,818
from places
where I've been and set lists.

607
00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:05,733
When I come
back from wherever I am,

608
00:31:06,386 --> 00:31:09,171
all these people want to know
what I've done

609
00:31:09,215 --> 00:31:10,085
'cause they don't have a life.

610
00:31:10,129 --> 00:31:11,739
They just do architecture.

611
00:31:11,782 --> 00:31:13,610
So, I tell them about my life.

612
00:31:15,743 --> 00:31:19,051
[James] I'm of the generation
where rock 'n roll
is a foreign language.

613
00:31:19,573 --> 00:31:20,574
It still is.

614
00:31:20,617 --> 00:31:23,272
But underneath that collection,

615
00:31:23,316 --> 00:31:26,623
there's a really interesting
imaginative mind.

616
00:31:26,667 --> 00:31:31,411
One time, I said I needed
six weeks off to go on a tour,

617
00:31:31,454 --> 00:31:32,760
and they said no.

618
00:31:32,803 --> 00:31:34,980
Either you give me
the time off or I'm quitting.

619
00:31:35,023 --> 00:31:36,851
[chuckles]

620
00:31:36,895 --> 00:31:38,461
So, they gave me the time off.

621
00:31:40,811 --> 00:31:43,597
[Mark] They're beyond fans,
Lois and Dennis.

622
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,078
Being a fan is usually
just a faddy sort of thing.

623
00:31:46,121 --> 00:31:48,297
It lasts a few years
and it kind of dwindles, maybe,

624
00:31:48,341 --> 00:31:51,126
and you might still
collect the records
a few years down the line,

625
00:31:51,170 --> 00:31:53,389
but your life moves on
and it goes on
to something else.

626
00:31:53,433 --> 00:31:54,825
For Lois and Dennis,
it's not like that.

627
00:31:54,869 --> 00:31:57,567
You don't find people like that around the world.

628
00:31:58,699 --> 00:32:01,484
[Lois] When we got
to know Oasis,

629
00:32:01,528 --> 00:32:03,095
we'd go to work in the day

630
00:32:03,138 --> 00:32:05,140
and then run
to the airport at night,

631
00:32:05,184 --> 00:32:08,535
travel to England, barely get in to see their show,

632
00:32:09,231 --> 00:32:12,408
take the red-eye back to go back to work the next day.

633
00:32:12,452 --> 00:32:13,888
[Marc]
They're intriguin', you know.

634
00:32:13,932 --> 00:32:15,498
Dennis got fired from his job.

635
00:32:15,542 --> 00:32:17,326
He must have been
in his mid-fifties.

636
00:32:17,370 --> 00:32:20,460
And he got fired for taking
three days off work
without permission

637
00:32:20,503 --> 00:32:22,897
to go and see the Mekons
in, I think, Chicago.

638
00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:25,552
How many fifty-five year old
people would do that, you know.

639
00:32:25,595 --> 00:32:27,510
[Dennis] It was a problem.
I mean, you got fired.

640
00:32:27,554 --> 00:32:30,600
I worked
at the Panasonic Corporation.

641
00:32:30,644 --> 00:32:32,776
It's electronic
and they do music.

642
00:32:32,820 --> 00:32:34,735
There go that sponsorship.
[laughs]

643
00:32:34,778 --> 00:32:37,477
[Lois] Towards the end,
I was wearing
my Ramone shirt to work

644
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,349
because I was out
the night before with the band

645
00:32:40,393 --> 00:32:44,092
and I didn't have time
to come home and change, so.

646
00:32:44,136 --> 00:32:46,355
"Well, you love the Ramones
more than you love us.

647
00:32:46,399 --> 00:32:47,574
We have to let you go."

648
00:32:47,617 --> 00:32:49,141
[chuckles]

649
00:32:49,184 --> 00:32:51,360
[Dennis] The Village Voice
used to be our enemy.

650
00:32:51,404 --> 00:32:52,796
As soon as we'd call in sick,

651
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,016
they'd thumb the music pages
of the Village Voice.

652
00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:56,365
Who's in town?

653
00:32:56,409 --> 00:32:58,585
"Oh, they had that T-shirt on
the other day."

654
00:32:58,628 --> 00:33:00,848
-Oh, suddenly, they're sick.
-[chuckles]

655
00:33:00,891 --> 00:33:03,633
[Dennis] We found out
it's not good to call in sick

656
00:33:03,677 --> 00:33:06,158
-from an airport pay phone.
-[chuckles]

657
00:33:06,201 --> 00:33:08,290
If you're trying to say
you're sick and they go,

658
00:33:08,334 --> 00:33:12,120
"Flight 302 to Miami
now boarding."

659
00:33:12,164 --> 00:33:15,167
[on speaker]
Please make sure you have
all your personal belongings

660
00:33:15,210 --> 00:33:17,691
and watch your step
as you exit.

661
00:33:18,779 --> 00:33:21,042
[interviewer] What is it
about England you love so much?

662
00:33:21,086 --> 00:33:24,089
It's not just the music.
It's the people as well.

663
00:33:24,132 --> 00:33:25,829
Americans are good,

664
00:33:25,873 --> 00:33:29,137
but somehow English people
have some edge to them

665
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,098
and it all came through
on the music.

666
00:33:33,141 --> 00:33:36,492
It's not the quality
or hitting the right note.

667
00:33:36,536 --> 00:33:39,017
It's about the feel of it.

668
00:33:42,150 --> 00:33:43,282
[Lois] It's bigger than me.

669
00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:47,808
[man] Let me see your T-shirt,
'cause I haven't seen that yet.

670
00:33:50,941 --> 00:33:53,031
And you think
that was from when?

671
00:33:53,074 --> 00:33:57,992
From the first tour I believe
they did after "Pills, Thrills,
and Bellyaches."

672
00:34:01,126 --> 00:34:05,217
One time we went to Oasis
in the stadium,

673
00:34:05,826 --> 00:34:09,569
and I bought these T-shirts and
like put 'em in the carry bag.

674
00:34:09,612 --> 00:34:12,876
And the guy said to me,
"I think you should
double bag this."

675
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,965
And then I went out
in the mosh pit.

676
00:34:16,228 --> 00:34:18,708
And that's when I fell down
and that's when I really hurt
my knee.

677
00:34:19,405 --> 00:34:23,104
And I had my hand
around those T-shirt,
that T-shirt bag,

678
00:34:23,148 --> 00:34:25,759
and I'm not losing
these T-shirts in this mosh pit.

679
00:34:25,802 --> 00:34:29,545
The merch is gonna be upstairs,
in the main room in the back.

680
00:34:30,155 --> 00:34:32,679
And he said that's what the band
wanted, so when we go up,

681
00:34:32,722 --> 00:34:35,943
we should go up a little,
not the last-last minute,

682
00:34:37,597 --> 00:34:40,817
in case they have our size
for a change.

683
00:34:41,862 --> 00:34:47,302
[rock music]

684
00:35:05,364 --> 00:35:07,975
[rock music]

685
00:35:10,282 --> 00:35:12,458
[cheers and applause]

686
00:35:12,501 --> 00:35:14,199
[Shaun] Thank you very much.

687
00:35:15,113 --> 00:35:16,288
Dennis.

688
00:35:16,331 --> 00:35:19,639
Happy New Year,
Mr. Shaun William Ryder.

689
00:35:19,682 --> 00:35:21,902
You almost had me crying
during that show.

690
00:35:21,945 --> 00:35:24,078
-Yeah, was it good?
-I just felt so happy.

691
00:35:24,122 --> 00:35:25,993
Really? Thank you.

692
00:35:26,036 --> 00:35:30,737
What? A man loves
to tell the truth about why
Dennis and Lois really...

693
00:35:30,780 --> 00:35:35,176
Well, when we first,
uh, got to New York, uh...

694
00:35:36,786 --> 00:35:40,355
Dennis and Lois,
uh, brought the pot,

695
00:35:41,051 --> 00:35:43,576
-the weed, the good stuff.
-[Lois laughs]

696
00:35:46,666 --> 00:35:48,320
I got a phone call
off Lois once.

697
00:35:48,363 --> 00:35:49,886
It must have been about 1990.

698
00:35:49,930 --> 00:35:51,975
She said, "Oh we're gonna go
and see Happy Mondays,

699
00:35:52,019 --> 00:35:54,500
and we're gonna get to meet them and get to know them

700
00:35:54,543 --> 00:35:56,197
and go and hang out with them."

701
00:35:56,241 --> 00:35:58,199
I said, "Oh, hmm...
Do you know them at all?"

702
00:35:58,243 --> 00:35:59,679
"No."

703
00:35:59,722 --> 00:36:01,768
What we're gonna do
is stand by the stage door.

704
00:36:01,811 --> 00:36:03,944
We're gonna wear
our Frank Sidebottom T-shirt.

705
00:36:03,987 --> 00:36:07,730
Happy Mondays will walk past
and go, "Wow, Frank Sidebottom?"

706
00:36:07,774 --> 00:36:09,471
And we'll go, "Yeah, sure."

707
00:36:09,515 --> 00:36:10,907
It was
like a military operation.

708
00:36:11,386 --> 00:36:14,041
[Paul] I came out the back doors

709
00:36:14,084 --> 00:36:17,218
and across the way
was this big chain-link fence.

710
00:36:17,262 --> 00:36:21,396
And Dennis stood there
and Lois stood there
shouting "Paul."

711
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,528
And it was like, wow.

712
00:36:22,571 --> 00:36:24,051
Who are these?

713
00:36:24,094 --> 00:36:26,227
'Cause they don't look like Mr. and Mrs. Conventional.

714
00:36:26,271 --> 00:36:28,011
So, I have to go across,

715
00:36:28,055 --> 00:36:30,753
and it just kind of went
from there, man.

716
00:36:33,713 --> 00:36:36,977
[Paul] Their reputation
in Manchester were bad boys.

717
00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:39,327
[Lois] And I wanted
to see for myself...

718
00:36:40,241 --> 00:36:41,938
We just got on
right away with them.

719
00:36:42,765 --> 00:36:46,726
[rock music]

720
00:37:14,188 --> 00:37:17,974
[Dennis] Here they are
in L.A., in the studio,

721
00:37:18,018 --> 00:37:19,585
and they can't find weed.

722
00:37:19,628 --> 00:37:22,805
I think they were just nervous
about who they went up to

723
00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:25,939
and so they said,
"Can you do us a favor?

724
00:37:25,982 --> 00:37:28,985
Can you score us some weed
and FedEx it to us?"

725
00:37:29,812 --> 00:37:34,252
So, I went,
scored ounces, a pound.

726
00:37:34,295 --> 00:37:36,036
I don't know
what the hell I scored.

727
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:40,301
Put it in a FedEx envelope
with a phony return name

728
00:37:40,345 --> 00:37:42,303
and saw them
through the recording

729
00:37:42,347 --> 00:37:44,653
of "Pills, Thrills,
and Bellyaches."

730
00:37:44,697 --> 00:37:47,265
I only did it
as a friendship thing.

731
00:37:48,048 --> 00:37:51,094
A friendly something,
I can help them.
Yeah, I'll help them.

732
00:37:51,138 --> 00:37:54,184
And Shaun called us up
when he was L.A. in the studio

733
00:37:54,228 --> 00:37:55,751
and said,
when the album comes out,

734
00:37:55,795 --> 00:37:57,362
we've got
a big surprise for you.

735
00:38:00,713 --> 00:38:03,455
[Lois] And I was on my lunchtime
and I got the "NME"

736
00:38:03,498 --> 00:38:08,503
and the cover said,
"New Mondays Album Out Now,
and it had the track listings.

737
00:38:10,897 --> 00:38:12,551
And I was like,
"Oh, my God."

738
00:38:12,594 --> 00:38:14,422
[chuckles]

739
00:38:14,466 --> 00:38:16,511
Then I called him and I said,
"You'll never guess
what they did."

740
00:38:18,426 --> 00:38:21,560
They wrote a song about you
called "Dennis and Lois."

741
00:38:21,603 --> 00:38:23,257
That must have been
quite a compliment.

742
00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:24,693
A compliment and a surprise.

743
00:38:24,737 --> 00:38:27,740
[Lois] The fact that they did
something for us,

744
00:38:27,783 --> 00:38:28,784
I was really touched with that.

745
00:38:28,828 --> 00:38:33,093
["Dennis and Lois"
by Happy Mondays"

746
00:38:39,273 --> 00:38:41,144
[Paul] Well, they must have
just popped up in my head

747
00:38:41,188 --> 00:38:43,451
when we was writin'
the music, you know.

748
00:38:43,495 --> 00:38:46,759
They must have been
swimming around there
somewhere subconsciously.

749
00:38:46,802 --> 00:38:49,501
I had heard of them just
through the Happy Mondays song.

750
00:38:49,544 --> 00:38:50,719
The Happy Mondays Song.

751
00:38:50,763 --> 00:38:52,504
The Happy Mondays Song.

752
00:38:52,547 --> 00:38:54,767
There aren't many people
who don't know
who Dennis and Lois are,

753
00:38:54,810 --> 00:38:57,030
or at least know the names
Dennis and Lois

754
00:38:57,726 --> 00:38:59,337
in the whole of Manchester.

755
00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:02,731
When I mention Dennis and Lois
or the band and Dennis and Lois,

756
00:39:02,775 --> 00:39:04,646
people can't believe
that they're real people.

757
00:39:05,865 --> 00:39:08,346
[Lois] I went to the stage door
at Oasis

758
00:39:09,042 --> 00:39:11,697
and Noel comes out
and I said,

759
00:39:11,740 --> 00:39:13,655
"Can we talk with you later on?"

760
00:39:13,699 --> 00:39:16,789
"Yeah. I'll put your name on the list. What's your name?"

761
00:39:16,832 --> 00:39:19,008
And I said,
"Dennis and Lois."

762
00:39:19,748 --> 00:39:21,663
And he looked at me
and he says,

763
00:39:21,707 --> 00:39:23,839
"You are 'The Dennis and Lois'?"

764
00:39:23,883 --> 00:39:26,189
And it was like, "Ah". [laughs]

765
00:39:26,233 --> 00:39:30,716
Dennis always says,
"When is his 15 minutes of fame
gonna be over?" Never.

766
00:39:30,759 --> 00:39:35,242
The greatest moments
was when The Mondays
did the song, of course,

767
00:39:35,285 --> 00:39:38,027
is what, you know,
makes people like them legend.

768
00:40:07,187 --> 00:40:09,450
Dennis is hard at work.

769
00:40:09,494 --> 00:40:10,799
Not really.

770
00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:17,632
We're in the bowels
of Pennsylvania in a church.

771
00:40:18,459 --> 00:40:22,463
This is the first time
I've been in one of these
in quite a while,

772
00:40:22,507 --> 00:40:25,031
so you may get
some flames shooting out,

773
00:40:25,074 --> 00:40:27,642
especially since I saw
Ozzie last week.

774
00:40:28,382 --> 00:40:31,646
[Damon] The first time
I met Dennis and Lois
was a New York show.

775
00:40:31,690 --> 00:40:35,128
Some guy working at the venue
said these two people
are outside.

776
00:40:35,171 --> 00:40:38,000
And they're trying to get in,
'cause they want
to see your show,

777
00:40:38,044 --> 00:40:39,437
and I said, "Who are they?"

778
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,439
Oh, they said,
"Dennis and Lois."

779
00:40:41,482 --> 00:40:42,962
So, I went outside to meet them.

780
00:40:43,005 --> 00:40:45,747
I'd heard so much about them
from other bands,

781
00:40:45,791 --> 00:40:48,794
so I was really flattered
that hey were coming
to one of my shows

782
00:40:48,837 --> 00:40:50,709
'cause I felt
like that validates me

783
00:40:50,752 --> 00:40:53,668
as part of Manchester royalty
in music or something.

784
00:40:56,062 --> 00:40:58,107
[Damon] They've been sellin'
our merchandise as well.

785
00:40:58,151 --> 00:41:00,370
I can never repay them.
I couldn't even try,

786
00:41:00,414 --> 00:41:02,677
for puttin' in the effort and...

787
00:41:03,330 --> 00:41:05,854
comin' to waste their time
on a loser like me.

788
00:41:05,898 --> 00:41:07,116
[chuckles]

789
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,031
I tell you what,
when I get back,

790
00:41:09,075 --> 00:41:11,164
can you bring these back there
and I'll sign some,

791
00:41:11,207 --> 00:41:13,340
maybe if you think
that's a good idea.

792
00:41:13,383 --> 00:41:14,559
I think that's a great idea.

793
00:41:14,602 --> 00:41:16,474
What about Dennis and Lois
signing it?

794
00:41:16,517 --> 00:41:17,866
I mean definitely not...

795
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:19,302
[Dennis laughs] No.

796
00:41:19,346 --> 00:41:22,001
We'll have to pay them
to take it.

797
00:41:22,044 --> 00:41:24,873
[applauses]

798
00:41:33,969 --> 00:41:37,538
[Lois] I took the week off
to do this tour with Damon.

799
00:41:38,626 --> 00:41:42,891
The first night in the village
everything was great.

800
00:41:42,935 --> 00:41:46,242
And then the second morning,
I woke up and I couldn't,
I had no power in my side.

801
00:41:47,113 --> 00:41:48,462
I got to the show,

802
00:41:49,028 --> 00:41:51,987
and when I got out of the car,
I couldn't walk.

803
00:41:52,945 --> 00:41:55,295
I had to hold on
'cause I had no balance.

804
00:41:56,078 --> 00:41:59,168
And I was like, "Help!
Somebody come and help me."

805
00:41:59,212 --> 00:42:05,392
["Silent Sigh"
by Badly Drawn Boy]

806
00:42:18,797 --> 00:42:20,625
[Lois] All these people
came over and like,

807
00:42:20,668 --> 00:42:23,584
"Lady, are you okay?
Get you an ambulance?"

808
00:42:23,628 --> 00:42:25,412
"No, no, no.
I have to go to the show."

809
00:42:25,455 --> 00:42:30,722
[singing]

810
00:42:30,765 --> 00:42:33,855
[Lois] I'll be alright.
We'll worry about this later.

811
00:42:33,899 --> 00:42:35,553
[chuckles]

812
00:42:45,650 --> 00:42:47,782
-[applause]
-Thank you.

813
00:42:47,826 --> 00:42:53,005
[cheers and applause]

814
00:42:53,048 --> 00:42:54,136
Thank you.

815
00:42:56,008 --> 00:42:57,139
Damon, nice job.

816
00:43:00,055 --> 00:43:02,318
They do what everyone
should be doing,

817
00:43:02,362 --> 00:43:04,059
living life on their terms.

818
00:43:04,103 --> 00:43:05,844
But I do worry
about their health.

819
00:43:05,887 --> 00:43:07,672
[Jimi] It's obvious they're not gettin' any younger.

820
00:43:07,715 --> 00:43:10,936
None of us are.
But that outlook is inspiring.

821
00:43:10,979 --> 00:43:14,374
It's amazing.
At that age most people want
a cup of cocoa at nine o'clock.

822
00:43:14,417 --> 00:43:16,506
Put their feet up.
And they're out rock 'n rolling.

823
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:19,335
[Sarah] I don't know
how they find the energy.
I really don't.

824
00:43:24,776 --> 00:43:29,432
[rock music]

825
00:43:53,413 --> 00:43:55,197
-Elbow.
-Elbow.

826
00:43:55,241 --> 00:43:57,112
And you have Morrissey.

827
00:43:57,156 --> 00:43:59,767
-Just like the real thing,
a bobble head.
-[Lois] They have Stone Roses.

828
00:44:03,771 --> 00:44:07,035
Right here.
That's Thomas Street
and Oldham Street.

829
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:10,038
This is like "old Manchester".

830
00:44:10,604 --> 00:44:14,652
This is where I want my ashes
to be thrown out, right here.

831
00:44:15,217 --> 00:44:18,656
Dennis wants to be buried,
but we'll bury him under the...

832
00:44:19,961 --> 00:44:22,616
[Lois] Well,
I've been coming since '68.

833
00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:25,793
We've come at least
twice a year, every year.

834
00:44:25,837 --> 00:44:28,056
-More than that.
-At least twice a year, yeah.

835
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:30,450
Over a hundred times,
I would say, we've been here.

836
00:44:30,493 --> 00:44:33,409
Somehow, I met the nicest people
here in Manchester.

837
00:44:33,453 --> 00:44:37,587
It's like I feel
as much at home here,

838
00:44:37,631 --> 00:44:39,459
if not more so
than in the States.

839
00:44:39,502 --> 00:44:41,330
It's just easy.

840
00:44:41,374 --> 00:44:46,509
They'd probably recognize
something else genuine
and from the heart.

841
00:44:46,553 --> 00:44:48,686
There's no bullshit about
Manchesterean people,

842
00:44:48,729 --> 00:44:51,819
whether it be on the street
or in a band, you know.

843
00:44:51,863 --> 00:44:54,735
Not too dissimilar from how
New Yorkers are, you know.

844
00:44:54,779 --> 00:44:56,041
We're a similar breed.

845
00:44:56,084 --> 00:44:58,565
[Lois] Oh, the Manchester
Evening News Arena.

846
00:44:59,261 --> 00:45:01,699
All the bands have played
there, everybody.

847
00:45:02,351 --> 00:45:06,181
[Dennis] A good chunk
of the music
that has impressed me

848
00:45:06,791 --> 00:45:08,793
over the years
has originated here.

849
00:45:10,098 --> 00:45:14,146
If it wasn't for Factory Records
and Joy Division, New Order,

850
00:45:14,189 --> 00:45:15,843
and Happy Mondays,

851
00:45:15,887 --> 00:45:17,932
there wouldn't have been
a Manchester scene.

852
00:45:18,628 --> 00:45:19,717
Okay, people.

853
00:45:20,369 --> 00:45:22,850
So. this is one
of our older songs.

854
00:45:23,416 --> 00:45:26,898
And I'm gonna play it
for two of our oldest fans,

855
00:45:27,681 --> 00:45:29,683
Dennis and Lois.

856
00:45:29,727 --> 00:45:33,469
-[Dennis] Thank you!
-[Peter] Wherever you are,
my darlings, this is for you.

857
00:45:33,513 --> 00:45:36,168
["Love Will Tear Us Apart"
by Peter Hook]

858
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,530
[Lois]
When I was about thirteen,

859
00:45:50,573 --> 00:45:52,924
I didn't really travel anywhere,

860
00:45:52,967 --> 00:45:55,927
but I found the Beatles,
the Rolling Stones,

861
00:45:55,970 --> 00:45:59,060
and I wanted to see the place where they came from,

862
00:45:59,104 --> 00:46:00,366
'cause it wasn't Brooklyn.

863
00:46:01,193 --> 00:46:03,021
And I went to England on my own.

864
00:46:03,064 --> 00:46:04,762
I had to see this.

865
00:46:04,805 --> 00:46:09,984
[guitar playing]

866
00:46:11,725 --> 00:46:15,424
[Lois] I'd go to England
with a train pass, get an NME.

867
00:46:15,468 --> 00:46:18,079
The NME, it was a bible.

868
00:46:18,123 --> 00:46:21,517
Look to see what bands
were playing,
get on the train and go there.

869
00:46:21,561 --> 00:46:28,307
["Love Will Tear Us Apart"
by Peter Hook]

870
00:46:46,891 --> 00:46:52,157
["Love Will Tear Us Apart"
by Peter Hook]

871
00:47:05,735 --> 00:47:07,215
[Lois] England was just amazing.

872
00:47:07,259 --> 00:47:08,477
And then, when I met Dennis,

873
00:47:08,521 --> 00:47:10,523
we both went together.

874
00:47:10,566 --> 00:47:12,481
We're both the same person.

875
00:47:12,525 --> 00:47:15,702
["Love Will Tear Us Apart"
by Peter Hook]

876
00:47:21,142 --> 00:47:23,797
They're iconic
in the way that they were there

877
00:47:23,841 --> 00:47:25,843
when a movement started.

878
00:47:25,886 --> 00:47:29,542
When Manchester
and New Order came to America

879
00:47:29,585 --> 00:47:32,066
and the way
it affected the world

880
00:47:32,110 --> 00:47:34,547
was because of New York
and people like them.

881
00:47:34,590 --> 00:47:38,507
["Love Will Tear Us Apart"
by Peter Hook]

882
00:47:44,687 --> 00:47:47,516
[Peter] You tend to pick up
friends when you're small.

883
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,476
And those friends are the ones that last right the way through.

884
00:47:50,519 --> 00:47:53,479
When you get to that period
as a band when you're huge,

885
00:47:53,522 --> 00:47:56,656
when you can't tell your friends from your enemies or whatever,

886
00:47:56,699 --> 00:47:59,659
people like Dennis and Lois
are very, very important.

887
00:47:59,702 --> 00:48:04,229
["Love Will Tear Us Apart"
by Peter Hook]

888
00:48:15,153 --> 00:48:17,938
You should never underestimate
the friendship value.

889
00:48:20,158 --> 00:48:23,204
[audience cheering]

890
00:48:26,338 --> 00:48:27,774
You love it?
Do you love it?

891
00:48:27,817 --> 00:48:29,950
[Dennis]
Our last night in Manchester,

892
00:48:29,994 --> 00:48:31,865
we figured we'd do
something special,

893
00:48:31,909 --> 00:48:34,215
especially
since Frank Sidebottom

894
00:48:34,259 --> 00:48:36,435
is going to be playing
a show in Manchester.

895
00:48:39,177 --> 00:48:40,613
Mommy, what's that noise?

896
00:48:40,656 --> 00:48:43,485
It is, of course,
Frank Sidebottom.

897
00:48:43,529 --> 00:48:44,878
Yes, that's me.

898
00:48:44,922 --> 00:48:48,403
Frank Sidebottom,
international showbiz superstar.

899
00:48:51,189 --> 00:48:54,366
[Dennis] We've known Frank
for many, many years.

900
00:48:54,409 --> 00:48:57,804
He's one of the earlier people

901
00:48:57,847 --> 00:49:00,938
we met in our Manchester career.

902
00:49:01,677 --> 00:49:06,726
[music playing]

903
00:49:06,769 --> 00:49:09,076
[Dennis] When he first came over
the first time,

904
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,818
he had a duffle bag with him
with his costume.

905
00:49:11,861 --> 00:49:13,820
And Customs stops him.

906
00:49:13,863 --> 00:49:15,604
Says, "What do you have
in your bag?"

907
00:49:15,648 --> 00:49:17,476
He said,
"I have a ventriloquist dummy.

908
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:20,479
I have a papermaché head,
and I have a Casio keyboard."

909
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:24,222
[singing]

910
00:49:24,265 --> 00:49:25,701
They asked where he was staying.

911
00:49:25,745 --> 00:49:27,834
He said, "I'm staying
with Dennis and Lois."

912
00:49:27,877 --> 00:49:30,402
And they said,
"Well, what's their address?"

913
00:49:30,445 --> 00:49:32,882
- He goes, "I don't know."
-[Lois] "I don't know."

914
00:49:32,926 --> 00:49:35,537
[Dennis]
"Well, where do they live?"

915
00:49:35,581 --> 00:49:37,322
-[Lois] "I don't know."
-"What's their last names?"

916
00:49:37,365 --> 00:49:39,063
[Lois] " It's Dennis and Lois."

917
00:49:39,106 --> 00:49:41,413
Oh, then he says,
"Well, do you know
Madonna's last name?"

918
00:49:44,024 --> 00:49:46,548
[Dennis] He discovered
America wasn't so bad,

919
00:49:46,592 --> 00:49:49,029
so he came back
three other times.

920
00:49:49,073 --> 00:49:50,639
Each time he stayed with us.

921
00:49:51,466 --> 00:49:54,339
-Thank you! Whoo!
-[cheers and applause]

922
00:50:03,304 --> 00:50:04,914
[Lois] We can get
all of them at home.

923
00:50:07,221 --> 00:50:09,484
What's this one?
No, we don't have this one.

924
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,795
That's a Constantine.
Do we have that?

925
00:50:16,839 --> 00:50:18,493
Yeah, it doesn't look familiar.

926
00:50:18,537 --> 00:50:21,192
I would say no,
because they don't remember
the gas mask.

927
00:50:21,235 --> 00:50:23,194
Based on that alone,
I would say no.

928
00:50:23,237 --> 00:50:24,064
All right.

929
00:50:25,326 --> 00:50:28,068
[Lois] Here. This, this.

930
00:50:30,592 --> 00:50:31,506
This.

931
00:50:32,594 --> 00:50:35,380
Look, a silver Dalek.
Exterminate!

932
00:50:38,209 --> 00:50:39,253
And that's it.

933
00:50:40,124 --> 00:50:41,168
No more?

934
00:50:41,951 --> 00:50:43,040
[seller] For this visit.

935
00:50:43,953 --> 00:50:45,303
The last time you were in,

936
00:50:45,346 --> 00:50:47,653
White Rebel Motorcycle Club
came with you.

937
00:50:48,871 --> 00:50:51,961
They're coming in April.
They're gonna be here on tour.

938
00:50:54,660 --> 00:50:55,922
Yay!

939
00:50:57,924 --> 00:51:00,535
Yay! Forbidden Planet. Hurray!

940
00:51:00,579 --> 00:51:02,842
I paid their rent
for the next month.

941
00:51:02,885 --> 00:51:03,973
[chuckles]

942
00:51:07,281 --> 00:51:09,414
-[Mark] Joey Ramone's pants.
-[Dennis] Yeah.

943
00:51:09,457 --> 00:51:10,980
[Mark] She told me the story.

944
00:51:11,024 --> 00:51:14,245
Every piece of this house
is like a bit of homage...

945
00:51:14,288 --> 00:51:15,724
-Yeah.
-Yeah. Get it.

946
00:51:15,768 --> 00:51:17,857
-Yeah.
-Yeah.

947
00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:19,206
-It's got Happy Mondays
on the wall over there.
-I know. I've seen that, yeah.

948
00:51:20,773 --> 00:51:23,210
-[Mark] Was this the kitchen?
-[Dennis and Lois] Yep.

949
00:51:23,254 --> 00:51:25,386
We need to clear some room.

950
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:28,607
See all these bottles.
These are all from different
shows and concerts I went to.

951
00:51:29,303 --> 00:51:32,393
[Lois] I would take
the empty bottle because
they drank out of it.

952
00:51:32,437 --> 00:51:33,655
-[Mark exhales]
-[chuckles]

953
00:51:33,699 --> 00:51:35,004
Is there any beer left in 'em?

954
00:51:35,048 --> 00:51:36,180
-No.
-Get out!

955
00:51:36,223 --> 00:51:37,833
[all laughs]

956
00:51:37,877 --> 00:51:40,227
We don't really
have any furniture.
We just have stuff.

957
00:51:47,539 --> 00:51:49,628
Their collecting is obsessive.

958
00:51:50,237 --> 00:51:52,370
[Mark] It's a compulsion
of some kind.

959
00:51:52,413 --> 00:51:56,722
[Robert] Every square inch
was filled with things
that make them happy,

960
00:51:57,201 --> 00:52:00,029
toys, memorabilia, records.

961
00:52:01,118 --> 00:52:03,163
Where they sleep
is the least important thing.

962
00:52:04,425 --> 00:52:07,036
It was amazing,
like going to a museum. Wow!

963
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,168
[Simon]
It's like a time capsule.

964
00:52:08,212 --> 00:52:09,822
This stuff that was important
ages ago

965
00:52:09,865 --> 00:52:11,867
is now buried
deeper and deeper.

966
00:52:11,911 --> 00:52:13,652
[Mark] It's not about the money
it's worth.

967
00:52:13,695 --> 00:52:15,480
It's about the meaning
and what it means.

968
00:52:16,089 --> 00:52:17,699
[Lois] I think
it's really important

969
00:52:17,743 --> 00:52:20,267
that you remember
where you come from,
your history,

970
00:52:21,225 --> 00:52:23,140
take great comfort in toys.

971
00:52:23,183 --> 00:52:27,056
'Cause those were
the happy moments
of your childhood.

972
00:52:28,406 --> 00:52:29,885
[Damian] You could never
have a kid there.

973
00:52:29,929 --> 00:52:31,887
But if you were a kid, you'd just fall in love with it

974
00:52:31,931 --> 00:52:33,715
because there's so many toys.

975
00:52:34,281 --> 00:52:37,763
[Dennis]
We have a Spider Man room,
a Batman room.

976
00:52:37,806 --> 00:52:40,113
We have a Simpsons room.

977
00:52:40,157 --> 00:52:43,203
The basement is vinyl,
and Star Wars.

978
00:52:43,247 --> 00:52:46,467
Near the furnace we have
some Freddy Krueger stuff

979
00:52:46,511 --> 00:52:48,295
'cause we just felt
from the films

980
00:52:48,339 --> 00:52:51,342
he always was the janitor
who was stoking the furnaces.

981
00:52:51,385 --> 00:52:54,040
And the front room
is all Dr. Who's stuff.

982
00:52:54,083 --> 00:52:58,175
[recording] Enemies of Dr. Who
must be destroyed.

983
00:53:01,613 --> 00:53:03,223
[Lenore] Oh, my God.

984
00:53:03,963 --> 00:53:05,225
This house I love!

985
00:53:05,269 --> 00:53:07,140
-[Lois chuckles]
-[Lenore] A whole Godzilla!

986
00:53:08,185 --> 00:53:09,838
[Lenore] Oh, my goodness.

987
00:53:09,882 --> 00:53:12,841
[Lenore] They're living here
about 12 years I guess.

988
00:53:12,885 --> 00:53:15,496
And I have never seen
a light on in 12 years.

989
00:53:15,540 --> 00:53:17,672
-I am overwhelmed.
-Look at this.

990
00:53:18,586 --> 00:53:21,154
[Lenore] Oh, my.
I just can't comprehend it.

991
00:53:21,198 --> 00:53:23,243
-[laughs]
-[Lenore] Oh, my God.

992
00:53:23,287 --> 00:53:24,375
[Lois] Look at Dracula.

993
00:53:24,418 --> 00:53:26,812
We got him
the first year we moved in.

994
00:53:26,855 --> 00:53:29,336
The first Christmas
we got that Dracula.

995
00:53:29,380 --> 00:53:31,251
Every Christmas
we were gettin' one.

996
00:53:32,078 --> 00:53:34,646
-Underneath the table...
-[Lenore] Oh!

997
00:53:34,689 --> 00:53:37,344
[Lois] He's really good,
those two under there
in the corner.

998
00:53:37,388 --> 00:53:40,086
[Lenore] Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah!
Look at that.

999
00:53:40,129 --> 00:53:41,174
[Frank] That's scary.

1000
00:53:42,697 --> 00:53:44,699
[Lenore]
They're wonderful people.
They're quiet.

1001
00:53:44,743 --> 00:53:47,267
We don't bother them. They don't bother us, you know.

1002
00:53:47,311 --> 00:53:49,313
And they enjoy
what they're doing,

1003
00:53:49,356 --> 00:53:51,402
and I think that's wonderful.

1004
00:53:51,445 --> 00:53:55,232
You know, I wish I knew
half the bands and things that,
you know, they know.

1005
00:53:55,275 --> 00:53:57,190
I mean, at my age,

1006
00:53:57,234 --> 00:54:00,585
I don't think I'd be able
to travel that far

1007
00:54:00,628 --> 00:54:04,153
to go see my favorite band,
you know.

1008
00:54:04,197 --> 00:54:07,287
But as neighbors go,
they're great.

1009
00:54:09,681 --> 00:54:11,900
[Dennis]
We got two emails there.

1010
00:54:11,944 --> 00:54:13,554
[Lois] What emails?

1011
00:54:13,598 --> 00:54:16,296
-From our tenant.
-Yeah.

1012
00:54:16,340 --> 00:54:20,257
[Dennis] Thanking us
for giving them
a rent reduction for Christmas.

1013
00:54:20,909 --> 00:54:23,085
Rock and roll.

1014
00:54:23,129 --> 00:54:26,480
[interviewer] And you just gave
a tenant a free month
for Christmas?

1015
00:54:26,524 --> 00:54:28,352
No, a rent reduction.

1016
00:54:28,395 --> 00:54:30,267
-A rent reduction?
-Yeah.

1017
00:54:30,310 --> 00:54:35,228
We gave our two tenants
a rent reduction
just 'cause it's Christmas.

1018
00:54:35,272 --> 00:54:38,013
[Dennis] Give 'em one month
a couple hundred dollars
off their rent.

1019
00:54:38,057 --> 00:54:40,929
It's just, it's somethin' to do,
you know.

1020
00:54:40,973 --> 00:54:43,018
[interviewer] What do you guys
think of Christmas?

1021
00:54:43,671 --> 00:54:45,978
[Lois]
It's Baby Jesus' birthday.

1022
00:54:46,021 --> 00:54:50,243
I mean, people are all worried
about giving gifts and, uh,
what did you get me?

1023
00:54:50,287 --> 00:54:54,291
And, oh, how much
did you spend on me?, and...

1024
00:54:55,770 --> 00:54:59,296
I think it's about people
being close with each other
and just, uh,

1025
00:55:00,253 --> 00:55:01,733
just being there for each other.

1026
00:55:02,951 --> 00:55:04,301
It's not about the gifts.

1027
00:55:05,302 --> 00:55:07,260
[Dennis]
To keep in the festive mood,

1028
00:55:08,043 --> 00:55:09,131
what better...

1029
00:55:09,610 --> 00:55:11,395
since they're all dead

1030
00:55:11,438 --> 00:55:13,745
and you don't have to worry
about royalties probably
on this one,

1031
00:55:13,788 --> 00:55:16,313
[chuckles] The Three Stooges.

1032
00:55:17,618 --> 00:55:24,016
["Jingle Bells Drag"
by The Three Stooges]

1033
00:55:37,290 --> 00:55:40,685
We went to this Prince concert
on Sunday. It was fantastic.

1034
00:55:41,207 --> 00:55:44,602
And I went to work on Monday
and I was feeling really weak,

1035
00:55:44,645 --> 00:55:45,994
like I was gonna collapse.

1036
00:55:46,038 --> 00:55:47,822
And, uh, made it home.

1037
00:55:47,866 --> 00:55:49,650
And I went to get out
of the car,

1038
00:55:49,694 --> 00:55:52,914
and I just like sunk,
just collapsed.

1039
00:55:53,437 --> 00:55:56,744
So, the neighbor
across the street comes over
and he looks at me.

1040
00:55:56,788 --> 00:55:58,790
- "I'll call 911."
-[siren whaling]

1041
00:55:58,833 --> 00:56:00,269
[Lois] So, the ambulance came.

1042
00:56:00,313 --> 00:56:01,967
They just threw a sheet over me,

1043
00:56:02,010 --> 00:56:04,099
put me in the stretcher
and took me to hospital.

1044
00:56:05,274 --> 00:56:07,407
When I first went in,
I couldn't move at all.

1045
00:56:07,451 --> 00:56:11,237
When they picked me up
from the stretcher, I couldn't
move my arms, couldn't walk.

1046
00:56:11,933 --> 00:56:13,282
And it really scared me.

1047
00:56:13,848 --> 00:56:15,502
They thought I had a stroke.

1048
00:56:16,547 --> 00:56:19,550
They did all kinds of tests, but they couldn't find anything,

1049
00:56:19,593 --> 00:56:22,117
so I guess
it's not that bad, huh?

1050
00:56:24,424 --> 00:56:26,034
I don't know what happened.

1051
00:56:26,078 --> 00:56:28,950
But I had the same thing
like six months ago.

1052
00:56:32,476 --> 00:56:33,564
[Richard] In my practice,

1053
00:56:33,607 --> 00:56:35,435
I take care
of lots of red zebras,

1054
00:56:35,479 --> 00:56:37,829
things that have not been
figured out.

1055
00:56:37,872 --> 00:56:39,308
And they come to me

1056
00:56:39,352 --> 00:56:42,964
with three feet
of medical records and tests.

1057
00:56:43,008 --> 00:56:45,402
Please help me. No one's
been able to figure out why.

1058
00:56:46,490 --> 00:56:49,406
Her major complaint is pain

1059
00:56:49,449 --> 00:56:52,321
in her back lateral thigh
down her leg.

1060
00:56:52,365 --> 00:56:55,455
She thought
she originally injured it

1061
00:56:55,499 --> 00:57:01,418
at a Oasis concert
in a mosh pit, uh, situation.

1062
00:57:01,983 --> 00:57:04,508
But ever since that event,
it's been getting worse.

1063
00:57:04,551 --> 00:57:07,424
[Lois] I thought, "Okay,
I'm gettin' a bit older,

1064
00:57:07,467 --> 00:57:09,338
and, yeah, I did
a lot of rock 'n rolling."

1065
00:57:09,382 --> 00:57:13,430
So, I went for physical therapy, but it didn't get any better.

1066
00:57:13,952 --> 00:57:15,475
It's gotten me really crazy

1067
00:57:15,519 --> 00:57:16,998
because I just want
to get better

1068
00:57:17,651 --> 00:57:20,437
or I want to get told
this is what it is, you know.

1069
00:57:24,223 --> 00:57:26,312
-Anyway, here I am in life.
-[Dennis] Yeah.

1070
00:57:26,965 --> 00:57:28,183
Ho-ho-ho.

1071
00:57:39,238 --> 00:57:40,326
[Lois] Wow.

1072
00:57:42,284 --> 00:57:44,069
-[Lois] Dee Dee should be
in here, right?
-[Dennis] Dee Dee I think is in.

1073
00:57:45,287 --> 00:57:46,941
[Lois] Oh, there's Johnny.

1074
00:57:46,985 --> 00:57:48,160
[Dennis] Yeah, I see it.

1075
00:57:49,161 --> 00:57:50,510
[Lois sighs]

1076
00:57:58,431 --> 00:57:59,476
Well...

1077
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,480
see he was the same age.

1078
00:58:04,132 --> 00:58:05,612
1948.

1079
00:58:11,618 --> 00:58:12,532
A legendary.

1080
00:58:18,277 --> 00:58:19,539
[Lois] Dennis, look at his eyes.

1081
00:58:19,583 --> 00:58:22,890
[Dennis] I know.
The eyes are very spooky.

1082
00:58:24,544 --> 00:58:26,241
[Lois] It's like
he's starin' you down.

1083
00:58:34,641 --> 00:58:36,556
[Lois] We got attracted to them

1084
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,081
because when some idea
went in their head,
they went and did it.

1085
00:58:41,039 --> 00:58:44,825
There's no regrets about, "Well, yeah, I should have done that."

1086
00:58:46,087 --> 00:58:48,786
Do what you really like and hell with what everybody thinks.

1087
00:58:50,178 --> 00:58:52,659
No matter what people say,
you have to do what you think,

1088
00:58:53,878 --> 00:58:55,880
and that's what
we've been trying to do.

1089
00:59:01,712 --> 00:59:02,974
Where's Dee Dee?

1090
00:59:04,889 --> 00:59:06,238
[kid] My dad works here.

1091
00:59:06,934 --> 00:59:09,371
I love Ramones.
My dad loves 'em, too.

1092
00:59:09,415 --> 00:59:11,069
[Lois] We were friends to them.

1093
00:59:11,112 --> 00:59:13,419
We worked with the Ramones
for a long time.

1094
00:59:13,462 --> 00:59:16,161
[Dennis]
Yeah, in the beginning,
we sold their T-shirts.

1095
00:59:16,204 --> 00:59:18,076
[kid] I have a bunch
of those T-shirts.

1096
00:59:18,642 --> 00:59:20,861
Dee Dee Ramone
is right over here.

1097
00:59:24,473 --> 00:59:26,127
See that one black statue
right there.

1098
00:59:28,521 --> 00:59:29,827
Right here, Dee Dee Ramone.

1099
00:59:33,178 --> 00:59:34,875
Beer cans. [laughs]

1100
00:59:34,919 --> 00:59:36,616
Money, cigarettes.

1101
00:59:36,660 --> 00:59:38,400
[Dennis] This is great.
[chuckles] It's Dee Dee.

1102
00:59:38,444 --> 00:59:40,620
No big monument, just Dee.

1103
00:59:41,142 --> 00:59:43,580
[Lois] Yep,
beneath the shade of a tree.

1104
00:59:54,678 --> 00:59:56,897
Yeah, you can have
Georgia Peach French toast.

1105
00:59:56,941 --> 00:59:58,551
[scoffs]

1106
00:59:58,595 --> 00:59:59,639
Please.

1107
01:00:00,509 --> 01:00:03,382
Uh, coffee, French toast,
bacon, please.

1108
01:00:03,425 --> 01:00:04,949
[waitress]
French toast and bacon.

1109
01:00:04,992 --> 01:00:06,254
-That's all?
-That's all.

1110
01:00:06,298 --> 01:00:09,649
And I want coffee with a--
I want a Grand Slam.

1111
01:00:09,693 --> 01:00:10,694
Yeah.

1112
01:00:10,737 --> 01:00:13,610
Um, two eggs, sunny side up.

1113
01:00:13,653 --> 01:00:15,655
Isn't that free
because it's your birthday?

1114
01:00:15,699 --> 01:00:16,917
Oh, yeah. Today's my birthday.

1115
01:00:16,961 --> 01:00:18,005
Oh, yeah?

1116
01:00:18,049 --> 01:00:20,529
Yeah. Mi cumpleaños.

1117
01:00:21,095 --> 01:00:24,055
We've done somethin'
like twelve cities

1118
01:00:24,098 --> 01:00:27,449
in a little over two weeks,
two and a half weeks.

1119
01:00:27,493 --> 01:00:33,281
It was short enough and it ended
officially on Lois' birthday.

1120
01:00:33,325 --> 01:00:36,676
So, it just seemed
like it was fate almost

1121
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,199
that we should be here.

1122
01:00:38,243 --> 01:00:41,028
I thought, at this age,
how many more tours can we do?

1123
01:00:41,072 --> 01:00:44,031
I mean you want to,
but physically, can you?

1124
01:00:45,990 --> 01:00:50,385
[interviewer] How has it been
physically and mentally?

1125
01:00:50,429 --> 01:00:53,998
Uh, my bags have bags.
[chuckles]

1126
01:00:55,782 --> 01:00:57,218
I feel rejuvenated.

1127
01:00:57,262 --> 01:00:58,872
[both laugh]

1128
01:00:58,916 --> 01:01:05,923
["Blow It Up" by The Vaccines]

1129
01:01:12,973 --> 01:01:17,717
You think fuck.
We've been on a bus
for the last, like, 17 hours.

1130
01:01:17,761 --> 01:01:19,371
[Justin] I've been sleeping
for ten of them.

1131
01:01:19,414 --> 01:01:23,592
And then here I'm fine
every day. It's kind of cool.

1132
01:01:23,636 --> 01:01:28,772
["Blow It Up" by The Vaccines]

1133
01:01:28,815 --> 01:01:30,774
How often have you been asked
if they're your grandparents?

1134
01:01:30,817 --> 01:01:33,254
I think five times I've been
asked if they were my parents.

1135
01:01:33,298 --> 01:01:34,647
-Parents?
-Parents.

1136
01:01:34,691 --> 01:01:36,388
I've been asked
if they're my grandparents,

1137
01:01:36,431 --> 01:01:38,607
so I'm younger looking than you.

1138
01:01:38,651 --> 01:01:39,608
Obviously.

1139
01:01:39,652 --> 01:01:45,919
["Blow It Up" by The Vaccines]

1140
01:01:53,361 --> 01:01:54,667
I mean, it's a struggle.

1141
01:01:56,277 --> 01:01:58,540
[Lois] I'm not sleeping a lot.
I can't walk too well.

1142
01:01:58,584 --> 01:02:00,151
I don't know.

1143
01:02:00,194 --> 01:02:03,763
But we've seen tons of bands,
but this one is just...

1144
01:02:03,807 --> 01:02:05,634
It's like when you fall in love,

1145
01:02:05,678 --> 01:02:09,029
and it's like that first day
when you're in love,
it's just like, wow.

1146
01:02:11,162 --> 01:02:15,601
And we've not been in love
with anything so strong as this.

1147
01:02:15,644 --> 01:02:19,126
-Right? For a long time.
-Yeah. There's some power there.

1148
01:02:19,170 --> 01:02:24,262
["Blow It Up" by The Vaccines]

1149
01:02:24,305 --> 01:02:26,786
You feel quite sort of privilege
that they're doing this

1150
01:02:26,830 --> 01:02:29,310
and you feel like you're not
doing anything in return.

1151
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,226
[Justin] I just have a kind
of urge to look after them

1152
01:02:32,270 --> 01:02:33,445
for some reason.

1153
01:02:33,488 --> 01:02:35,142
I have a maternal instinct.

1154
01:02:35,186 --> 01:02:38,624
I just run beers out and chips, food if I can find it, water.

1155
01:02:39,581 --> 01:02:43,063
["Blow It Up" by The Vaccines]

1156
01:02:46,675 --> 01:02:49,243
[cheers and applause]

1157
01:02:52,986 --> 01:02:55,815
Have we figured out what
we're gonna give her for her 65?

1158
01:02:55,859 --> 01:02:57,382
[Justin] I bought her
some presents.

1159
01:02:58,165 --> 01:03:04,563
["Blow It Up" by The Vaccines]

1160
01:03:06,957 --> 01:03:11,091
[cheers and applause]

1161
01:03:12,789 --> 01:03:16,096
Four, three, two, one.

1162
01:03:16,140 --> 01:03:18,446
-Wait, one.
-[all] Happy birthday!

1163
01:03:18,490 --> 01:03:21,972
♪ Happy birthday to you

1164
01:03:22,015 --> 01:03:25,627
♪ Happy birthday to you

1165
01:03:25,671 --> 01:03:29,806
♪ Happy birthday, dear Lois♪

1166
01:03:29,849 --> 01:03:34,854
♪ Happy birthday to you

1167
01:03:35,637 --> 01:03:37,161
Whoa!

1168
01:03:37,204 --> 01:03:39,119
-Wait till they play it.
-Wow.

1169
01:03:39,163 --> 01:03:41,774
-[all laugh]
-I would have bought that
for sure.

1170
01:03:41,818 --> 01:03:43,732
[Justin] But they're real frogs.

1171
01:03:43,776 --> 01:03:45,909
They're really, really good.

1172
01:03:56,441 --> 01:04:00,227
[Dennis] A roadie friend
of ours, Crumie, uh,
from Manchester,

1173
01:04:00,271 --> 01:04:02,882
he called us in the middle
of the night one night and said,

1174
01:04:02,926 --> 01:04:05,232
"There was just a piece
in the newspaper.

1175
01:04:05,276 --> 01:04:08,583
Have you heard?
Frank's got cancer?"

1176
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:10,716
And I said, "What?"

1177
01:04:15,939 --> 01:04:19,116
Chris Sievey, who created
the comedy character
Frank Sidebottom,

1178
01:04:19,159 --> 01:04:21,422
died of cancer at the age of 54.

1179
01:04:26,340 --> 01:04:28,690
[TV presenter] Now, he may
have had a cult following,

1180
01:04:28,734 --> 01:04:31,389
but the unveiling of a statue
of comic character,
Frank Sidebottom,

1181
01:04:31,432 --> 01:04:33,870
attracted hundreds
of people today.

1182
01:04:33,913 --> 01:04:36,133
A life-sized bronze statue
was unveiled

1183
01:04:36,176 --> 01:04:37,961
in the center
of Timperley Village
near Altrincham.

1184
01:04:39,963 --> 01:04:42,052
[Lois] We're all connected
in this world

1185
01:04:42,095 --> 01:04:44,184
and we should give
each other attention

1186
01:04:44,228 --> 01:04:47,100
because, the next day,
we might not be there.

1187
01:04:52,105 --> 01:04:55,892
With Frank we never thought that he would die the next day.

1188
01:04:56,501 --> 01:04:59,547
[Dennis] It's so easy,
especially with the pacing
of the world today,

1189
01:04:59,591 --> 01:05:01,593
to just take friends
for granted.

1190
01:05:01,636 --> 01:05:03,508
- It's not intentionally.
-[Lois] Yeah,
I'll see ya tomorrow.

1191
01:05:03,551 --> 01:05:05,466
-[Dennis] Yeah, whenever.
-[Lois] Maybe not.

1192
01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:07,816
[Dennis] Friends
are a precious commodity.

1193
01:05:30,056 --> 01:05:31,536
[Lois] Ow!

1194
01:05:33,016 --> 01:05:34,626
I can't lift my leg up.

1195
01:05:37,977 --> 01:05:42,808
I went out at lunchtime
and my leg collapsed
and I almost fainted.

1196
01:05:42,851 --> 01:05:44,027
[sighs]

1197
01:05:44,070 --> 01:05:45,898
-Did you fell?
-I got dizzy. Yeah.

1198
01:05:45,942 --> 01:05:48,814
I said, I don't think
I can work anymore today,

1199
01:05:50,033 --> 01:05:53,384
because I can't walk anymore
and I don't know why.

1200
01:05:55,342 --> 01:05:57,736
[Lois] I'm afraid this thing
is gonna get worse.

1201
01:06:00,521 --> 01:06:04,351
It's sad because you realize
this person that has
this inner vibrance

1202
01:06:04,395 --> 01:06:06,397
is beginning
to struggle physically

1203
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,965
and all these things
she loves to do
she can't do anymore,

1204
01:06:09,008 --> 01:06:10,357
and I think that's grown.

1205
01:06:12,620 --> 01:06:17,060
[Lois] I told them I don't think
I should work anymore
'cause I can't do it.

1206
01:06:17,103 --> 01:06:21,238
I haven't been
upstairs or downstairs
in like six months.

1207
01:06:21,281 --> 01:06:22,979
-[Dennis] Yeah.
-Six months.

1208
01:06:23,022 --> 01:06:24,545
And I sleep in there.

1209
01:06:30,247 --> 01:06:31,596
[Dennis] I need an escape.

1210
01:06:32,379 --> 01:06:35,165
I don't forget problems,

1211
01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:40,170
but I don't want
to focus totally on it

1212
01:06:40,213 --> 01:06:42,172
to the point
of becoming neurotic,

1213
01:06:42,215 --> 01:06:44,478
which is where it was getting.

1214
01:06:45,175 --> 01:06:49,657
The only thing that was really
making us be happy
was going to gigs.

1215
01:06:50,267 --> 01:06:52,399
I mean, that slowed down.

1216
01:06:52,443 --> 01:06:56,708
I mean, we only went
to one gig this week,
which is pretty slow for us.

1217
01:07:02,192 --> 01:07:04,150
[Lois] We were in Brooklyn

1218
01:07:04,194 --> 01:07:09,590
at some bar that this band
is gonna play in and Dennis
is in there already,

1219
01:07:09,634 --> 01:07:11,940
but I can't go in,
it's not worth it.

1220
01:07:14,987 --> 01:07:20,210
["Auto Neutron"
by Fat White Family]

1221
01:07:33,701 --> 01:07:38,097
[Dennis] It's awkward for me
when I'm there without Lois.

1222
01:07:38,141 --> 01:07:40,795
I don't feel complete.

1223
01:07:40,839 --> 01:07:44,364
I don't feel I'm sharing
the experience with her

1224
01:07:44,408 --> 01:07:46,453
and it's all about sharing.

1225
01:07:46,497 --> 01:07:52,851
["Auto Neutron"
by Fat White Family]

1226
01:08:08,954 --> 01:08:11,261
[Dennis] I'm not happy
about the situation,

1227
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,134
but if she isn't comfortable
doing something,

1228
01:08:15,178 --> 01:08:17,180
fuck it, don't do it.

1229
01:08:17,223 --> 01:08:21,140
["Auto Neutron"
by Fat White Family]

1230
01:08:50,038 --> 01:08:54,304
["Auto Neutron"
by Fat White Family]

1231
01:09:04,879 --> 01:09:09,406
[cheers and applause]

1232
01:09:19,024 --> 01:09:20,895
[Lois] Yes, I cry every day.

1233
01:09:21,505 --> 01:09:23,637
I do, 'cause I can't stand this.

1234
01:09:28,251 --> 01:09:30,644
And Dennis has been
putting up with me.

1235
01:09:30,688 --> 01:09:32,472
[chuckles]

1236
01:09:32,516 --> 01:09:34,257
-Yeah, I cry, too.
-Ow!

1237
01:09:34,300 --> 01:09:39,523
[Richard]
Recently she was tested by a very well-known neurologist

1238
01:09:39,566 --> 01:09:42,526
who did MRI's
of her brain, her spine,

1239
01:09:42,569 --> 01:09:45,224
and also did
an electrodiagnostic study.

1240
01:09:45,268 --> 01:09:47,748
-You're not gonna fall.
-I've got to sit over here. Ow!

1241
01:09:48,401 --> 01:09:52,971
He concluded that she has MS,
Multiple Sclerosis.

1242
01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:05,984
[Lois] This problem
got me really depressed

1243
01:10:06,027 --> 01:10:08,204
because everything
was taken away from me.

1244
01:10:08,943 --> 01:10:10,423
All the things I loved,

1245
01:10:12,338 --> 01:10:15,689
going to shows and standing
in the front and dancing

1246
01:10:15,733 --> 01:10:17,213
was taken away.

1247
01:10:19,606 --> 01:10:21,956
My day job
was taken away from me.

1248
01:10:24,481 --> 01:10:26,309
If all the things you know

1249
01:10:26,352 --> 01:10:29,442
and all the things
you depend on, your being,

1250
01:10:30,617 --> 01:10:32,402
is suddenly stopped,

1251
01:10:33,490 --> 01:10:35,927
and if you have
no control over it

1252
01:10:35,970 --> 01:10:38,451
and it's not gonna go away,
it's not gonna change,

1253
01:10:39,626 --> 01:10:41,019
it's really scary.

1254
01:11:03,259 --> 01:11:05,870
[Jon] Personally,
I begged them to take it easy,

1255
01:11:05,913 --> 01:11:08,438
but they're always off
on the next adventure,

1256
01:11:08,481 --> 01:11:10,527
so a part of me
says more power to them.

1257
01:11:10,570 --> 01:11:15,183
The other part of me
wants to strap 'em down
and lock 'em up somewhere.

1258
01:11:15,227 --> 01:11:17,185
Let them have a rest
for a while,

1259
01:11:17,229 --> 01:11:18,752
but they're not
interested in that.

1260
01:11:19,405 --> 01:11:20,972
[Jon]
It's thrillin' still for them.

1261
01:11:21,015 --> 01:11:23,583
What keeps Dennis and Lois
on the road

1262
01:11:23,627 --> 01:11:25,324
where others fear to tread?

1263
01:11:25,368 --> 01:11:28,806
What keeps us all going?
It's the love of music.

1264
01:11:28,849 --> 01:11:30,590
[Christopher]
I think about the struggle,

1265
01:11:30,634 --> 01:11:33,767
the sheer will of I've got
to get to that rock show.

1266
01:11:33,811 --> 01:11:36,553
And what it gives them,
I think, is their medicine.

1267
01:11:36,596 --> 01:11:39,469
You know, I think
that is their sustainability.

1268
01:11:39,512 --> 01:11:42,385
I think that is
what keeps Lois vital.

1269
01:11:45,301 --> 01:11:48,347
[Jimi] There seems to be
an imperative in them now.

1270
01:11:48,391 --> 01:11:50,175
They really want a fair line

1271
01:11:50,218 --> 01:11:54,310
and they want to be
in their spiritual home,
which is Manchester.

1272
01:12:20,118 --> 01:12:27,038
["Music Is Our Medicine"
by Vic Thrill]

1273
01:12:44,185 --> 01:12:49,016
[Dennis] Now, it's a necessity to get in before doors are open,

1274
01:12:49,060 --> 01:12:53,020
so that we can stake an area
that is comfortable for us,

1275
01:12:53,064 --> 01:12:55,501
what's safest for us.

1276
01:12:56,676 --> 01:12:58,286
[Lois]
Because I have a wheelchair,

1277
01:12:58,330 --> 01:13:01,986
I can't always be
in the front like I used to,

1278
01:13:02,029 --> 01:13:04,554
but at least I can hear it.

1279
01:13:04,597 --> 01:13:10,734
["Music Is Our Medicine"
by Vic Thrill]

1280
01:13:18,785 --> 01:13:21,005
[Dennis] I think you now,

1281
01:13:21,048 --> 01:13:24,530
you can always have
Sigourney Weaver in your pocket.

1282
01:13:24,574 --> 01:13:25,836
Keep her in your pocket.

1283
01:13:25,879 --> 01:13:28,447
That's so nice of you.
[chuckles] Thank you.

1284
01:13:28,491 --> 01:13:30,318
We wanted to give you
many gifts,

1285
01:13:30,362 --> 01:13:32,016
but we couldn't find good stuff.

1286
01:13:35,976 --> 01:13:37,674
[Lois]
We brought him a little toy.

1287
01:13:37,717 --> 01:13:40,590
He carries it with him
and it reminds him of us.

1288
01:13:41,286 --> 01:13:46,334
Dennis and Lois really just,
uh, seem to connect
with what I'm doing.

1289
01:13:46,378 --> 01:13:49,903
♪ I wanted to change the world

1290
01:13:49,947 --> 01:13:54,125
♪ But I could not even change
My underwear ♪

1291
01:13:54,168 --> 01:13:55,561
[Dennis] There's some music,

1292
01:13:55,605 --> 01:13:58,216
if you're down,
it gives you strength.

1293
01:13:58,259 --> 01:14:00,218
It's like recharging a battery.

1294
01:14:00,261 --> 01:14:03,221
♪ I hope I didn't destroy
Your celebration ♪

1295
01:14:03,264 --> 01:14:06,920
♪ And you should probably
Get down on your knees ♪

1296
01:14:06,964 --> 01:14:08,226
♪ And pray

1297
01:14:09,836 --> 01:14:13,449
♪ It's really fun to look
Embarrassed all the time ♪

1298
01:14:13,492 --> 01:14:15,755
[Lois] We're all related in this world

1299
01:14:16,452 --> 01:14:18,366
and even though
we don't want to admit it,

1300
01:14:18,410 --> 01:14:21,065
we need somebody else
to help us.

1301
01:14:21,108 --> 01:14:22,240
We cannot do this alone.

1302
01:14:23,067 --> 01:14:25,504
The singer of a band
needs the band.

1303
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:30,770
♪ If I can see your license
And your registration? ♪

1304
01:14:33,730 --> 01:14:36,994
♪ I don't know what to want
From this world ♪

1305
01:14:37,037 --> 01:14:40,171
We all have to play
a part in helping each other.

1306
01:14:40,214 --> 01:14:43,130
[Lois] And I think that's where
this music comes in.

1307
01:14:43,174 --> 01:14:45,959
♪ You have no right to want
Anything from me at all ♪

1308
01:14:46,612 --> 01:14:51,182
♪ Why don't you take it out
An somebody else? ♪

1309
01:14:51,225 --> 01:14:56,317
♪ Why don't you throw this shit out on somebody else? ♪

1310
01:14:56,361 --> 01:14:58,537
♪ Why don't you tell
Somebody else ♪

1311
01:14:58,581 --> 01:15:01,192
♪ That they're selfish?

1312
01:15:01,235 --> 01:15:06,632
♪ Weepy coward
And pathetic forever ♪

1313
01:15:13,030 --> 01:15:15,162
[Lois]
John has physical problems

1314
01:15:15,206 --> 01:15:17,643
and, hey, I'm going
through that right now.

1315
01:15:18,514 --> 01:15:21,517
He's in front of me singing
about what I'm going through.

1316
01:15:22,822 --> 01:15:28,524
["Queen of Denmark"
by John Grant]

1317
01:15:29,437 --> 01:15:32,832
[John] It brings a lot
to the artist to have somebody
there that gets you.

1318
01:15:33,659 --> 01:15:35,661
It would be nice for them
to know that the artist

1319
01:15:35,705 --> 01:15:39,622
is getting just as much
as they're getting
from the music, you know.

1320
01:15:39,665 --> 01:15:40,971
It's a beautiful thing.

1321
01:15:41,014 --> 01:15:42,363
♪ You're just a sucker

1322
01:15:42,407 --> 01:15:45,758
♪ But we'll see who gets
The last laugh ♪

1323
01:15:45,802 --> 01:15:49,066
♪ Who knows
Maybe you'll get to be ♪

1324
01:15:49,109 --> 01:15:56,029
♪ The next queen of Denmark

1325
01:15:57,944 --> 01:16:00,512
-[cheers and applause]
-[John] Thank you very much.

1326
01:16:01,426 --> 01:16:02,688
You can thank me.

1327
01:16:10,217 --> 01:16:14,874
[cheers and applause]

1328
01:16:24,014 --> 01:16:25,232
[Lois chuckles] Well...

1329
01:16:25,276 --> 01:16:26,625
[woman] We'll see you next week.

1330
01:16:28,584 --> 01:16:30,673
Oh, wait. Okay.

1331
01:16:33,806 --> 01:16:36,635
[Lois] John Grant, he said,
"Oh, my parents are your age."

1332
01:16:36,679 --> 01:16:40,596
He says they never go out, they don't want to do anything.

1333
01:16:40,639 --> 01:16:42,772
They just want to sit home,
watch TV.

1334
01:16:42,815 --> 01:16:46,514
He says, "I wish my parents
were like you." [chuckles]

1335
01:16:51,128 --> 01:16:52,912
[Lois] I had that coffee
right before we left.

1336
01:16:55,045 --> 01:16:56,524
What should I do?

1337
01:16:56,568 --> 01:16:58,657
[on phone]
Exit left, three miles,

1338
01:16:58,701 --> 01:17:00,485
then head to roundabout.

1339
01:17:02,008 --> 01:17:04,489
[Dennis] It's about getting you
to pee before the roundabout.

1340
01:17:04,532 --> 01:17:05,664
[Lois] It's insane.

1341
01:17:05,708 --> 01:17:07,884
This is it, right?

1342
01:17:13,150 --> 01:17:16,109
I pee, you pee, we all pee.

1343
01:17:16,153 --> 01:17:17,894
[chuckles]

1344
01:17:33,561 --> 01:17:35,215
-All right. Let just go.
-All right. Let's go.

1345
01:17:35,259 --> 01:17:36,869
Oh, I'm going pee.

1346
01:17:36,913 --> 01:17:38,828
I'm gonna be part of the party.

1347
01:17:40,873 --> 01:17:43,354
[Lois] We're Americans.
We can pee any place.

1348
01:17:43,397 --> 01:17:45,225
[Dennis]
It's our constitutional right.

1349
01:17:45,269 --> 01:17:46,879
[both laugh]

1350
01:17:46,923 --> 01:17:50,013
-[beep]
-[Lois] Dennis and Lois.

1351
01:17:50,056 --> 01:17:52,711
Uh, we've done a terrible thing.

1352
01:17:52,755 --> 01:17:56,454
We're going to just go
onto L.A. to see Elbow.

1353
01:17:57,629 --> 01:18:00,806
Oh, my God. I've got to rest up.

1354
01:18:00,850 --> 01:18:02,808
[cheers and applause]

1355
01:18:02,852 --> 01:18:06,943
This next song's dedicated
to our very, very good friends,
Dennis and Lois.

1356
01:18:06,986 --> 01:18:10,990
[cheers and applause]

1357
01:18:15,299 --> 01:18:16,779
[Guy] Okay.

1358
01:18:18,258 --> 01:18:21,871
[Guy] When Lois started
getting bad on her feet,

1359
01:18:21,914 --> 01:18:25,439
I remember her telling me,
New York's so kind
to a lady that needs help.

1360
01:18:25,483 --> 01:18:28,312
People give up their seat,
and open doors for me.

1361
01:18:28,355 --> 01:18:31,010
She put her finger
on what I love about the city

1362
01:18:31,054 --> 01:18:34,492
and that's kind of what became
the song, "New York Morning".

1363
01:18:36,450 --> 01:18:41,629
♪ The first to put
A simple truth in words ♪

1364
01:18:42,413 --> 01:18:47,461
♪ Binds the world
In a feeling all familiar ♪

1365
01:18:48,811 --> 01:18:53,250
♪ 'Cause everybody owns
The great ideas ♪

1366
01:18:54,817 --> 01:18:58,037
♪ And it feels like
There's a big one ♪

1367
01:18:58,081 --> 01:19:00,431
♪ Round the corner

1368
01:19:01,606 --> 01:19:07,655
♪ I see a city and I hear
A million voices ♪

1369
01:19:07,699 --> 01:19:10,615
♪ Driving, welding, drilling

1370
01:19:10,658 --> 01:19:13,618
♪ Carrying their fingers
To the nub ♪

1371
01:19:13,661 --> 01:19:16,186
♪ Reaching down
Into the ground ♪

1372
01:19:16,229 --> 01:19:20,016
♪ Stretching up into the sky

1373
01:19:20,059 --> 01:19:21,931
♪ Why? Because they can

1374
01:19:21,974 --> 01:19:27,458
♪ They did and do so you and I
Could be together ♪

1375
01:19:33,464 --> 01:19:35,074
[Guy] Lois said,
"You're the big test."

1376
01:19:35,118 --> 01:19:36,641
And I said, "What do you mean?"

1377
01:19:36,684 --> 01:19:39,165
And she said, "I'm not able
to get out of this chair,

1378
01:19:39,209 --> 01:19:42,821
but I've been to a couple
of concerts and I've been able
to get up and walk around.

1379
01:19:42,865 --> 01:19:45,084
That side of my body
starts working again."

1380
01:19:45,911 --> 01:19:50,481
♪ Oh my God, New York can talk

1381
01:19:50,524 --> 01:19:55,312
♪ Somewhere in all that talk
Is all the answers ♪

1382
01:19:57,662 --> 01:20:00,404
[Guy] Halfway through
the concert, we look around

1383
01:20:01,274 --> 01:20:03,973
and Lois just stood up
to the railings dancing.

1384
01:20:04,016 --> 01:20:08,542
♪ And it feels like there's
A big one round the corner ♪

1385
01:20:09,717 --> 01:20:14,592
♪ The desire to part
Sure symphony ♪

1386
01:20:14,635 --> 01:20:17,029
So she reckons she's got to follow us on tour from now on

1387
01:20:17,073 --> 01:20:19,075
in order to keep moving.

1388
01:20:19,118 --> 01:20:22,426
And if we can't do that,
then I'm just gonna have to be
here to sing to her,

1389
01:20:22,469 --> 01:20:24,123
make sure she can get about.

1390
01:20:24,167 --> 01:20:27,387
♪ And it feels like there's
A big one round the corner ♪

1391
01:20:30,129 --> 01:20:33,567
♪ The way the day begins

1392
01:20:36,483 --> 01:20:39,878
♪ Decides the shade
Of everything ♪

1393
01:20:41,140 --> 01:20:45,362
♪ But the way it ends
Depends on if you're home ♪

1394
01:20:47,407 --> 01:20:49,322
♪ For every soul

1395
01:20:49,366 --> 01:20:53,413
♪ A pillow at a window, please

1396
01:20:53,457 --> 01:20:57,591
♪ In a modern Rome
Where folk are nice to Lois ♪

1397
01:20:57,635 --> 01:21:00,159
[cheers and applause]

1398
01:21:02,596 --> 01:21:04,033
[Guy] Okay.

1399
01:21:07,819 --> 01:21:09,429
[Guy] Thank you very much.

1400
01:21:14,521 --> 01:21:17,176
[Lois] There's a beginning
and there's an end.

1401
01:21:17,220 --> 01:21:19,875
But it's about
the passion of life.

1402
01:21:19,918 --> 01:21:22,051
It's about doing what you love.

1403
01:21:31,974 --> 01:21:34,324
[Lois on phone]
Sorry, it's Dennis and Lois.

1404
01:21:34,367 --> 01:21:37,283
It was the most incredible
dedication.

1405
01:21:37,327 --> 01:21:41,374
It was absolutely amazing
and every bone in my body
is killing me,

1406
01:21:41,418 --> 01:21:44,551
but the band
was worth driving to.

1407
01:21:44,595 --> 01:21:45,857
We love it!

1408
01:21:56,694 --> 01:21:58,522
All these shirts,

1409
01:21:58,565 --> 01:22:03,527
two rows back and front,
are what we did this year.

1410
01:22:34,645 --> 01:22:35,820
No!

1411
01:22:37,996 --> 01:22:39,476
[all laugh]