1 00:00:01,586 --> 00:00:07,236 ♪♪ 2 00:00:07,241 --> 00:00:10,791 Man: I BROUGHT MY SON'S BODY BACK. 3 00:00:10,793 --> 00:00:13,833 MY SON WEIGHED 177 POUNDS. 4 00:00:13,827 --> 00:00:17,377 THEY FOUND 118 POUNDS OF HIM 5 00:00:17,379 --> 00:00:19,589 BECAUSE THE ALLIGATOR ATE THE REST OF HIM. 6 00:00:22,103 --> 00:00:24,593 YOU'LL NEVER LEAVE MY HEART, JEFF. 7 00:00:24,586 --> 00:00:27,336 YOU'LL NEVER LEAVE MY HEART. 8 00:00:27,344 --> 00:00:29,484 Man: IT'S A MURDER OFFICIALS CALL THE MOST GRISLY. 9 00:00:29,482 --> 00:00:31,282 IN JACKSON COUNTY HISTORY. 10 00:00:31,275 --> 00:00:33,545 POLICE SAY THE TWO KILLED JEFFERY WOLFE OF TEXAS 11 00:00:33,551 --> 00:00:35,411 IN THIS HOUSE TWO WEEKS AGO. 12 00:00:35,413 --> 00:00:37,863 ♪♪ 13 00:00:37,862 --> 00:00:39,622 Man: IT'S A VERY WEIRD THING. 14 00:00:39,620 --> 00:00:41,900 TO HOLD A MAN'S HEAD UP, 15 00:00:41,896 --> 00:00:43,306 YOU KNOW, IN YOUR HANDS. 16 00:00:43,310 --> 00:00:46,170 THAT'S SOMETHING I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD DO. 17 00:00:46,172 --> 00:00:50,032 YOU'RE ACTUALLY SITTING THERE, AND YOU HAVE YOUR... 18 00:00:50,034 --> 00:00:53,694 BY THE HAIR, AND YOU'RE LOOKING DEAD IN SOMEONE ELSE'S EYES. 19 00:00:53,689 --> 00:00:56,379 I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S WORDS TO EVEN EXPLAIN THAT. 20 00:00:56,379 --> 00:00:59,619 ♪♪ 21 00:00:59,620 --> 00:01:04,520 THIS BOX WAS COMPLETE DARKNESS, 22 00:01:04,517 --> 00:01:06,477 AND I WAS LOCKED IN THERE. 23 00:01:06,482 --> 00:01:10,722 I WAS BASICALLY TOLD HOW WELL I PERFORMED SEXUALLY 24 00:01:10,724 --> 00:01:13,284 DETERMINED IF I LIVED OR IF I DIED. 25 00:01:13,275 --> 00:01:23,095 ♪♪ 26 00:01:23,103 --> 00:01:26,103 Captions by VITAC... www.vitac.com 27 00:01:26,103 --> 00:01:29,073 CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS 28 00:01:29,068 --> 00:01:38,588 ♪♪ 29 00:01:38,586 --> 00:01:42,546 OH, THIS IS HARD. 30 00:01:42,551 --> 00:01:45,661 I HAVEN'T EVEN LOOKED AT HIM 31 00:01:45,655 --> 00:01:48,095 SINCE THAT DAY. 32 00:01:48,103 --> 00:01:50,793 I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PICTURES. 33 00:01:50,793 --> 00:01:56,033 ♪♪ 34 00:01:56,034 --> 00:01:58,314 THANK YOU. 35 00:01:58,310 --> 00:02:02,240 ♪♪ 36 00:02:02,241 --> 00:02:06,551 [ GLASS SHATTERING ] 37 00:02:08,344 --> 00:02:18,004 ♪♪ 38 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:26,660 ♪♪ 39 00:02:26,655 --> 00:02:30,405 Man: A LOT OF PEOPLE TELL ME NOT TO TALK ABOUT IT, 40 00:02:30,413 --> 00:02:33,933 BUT I HAVE AN OLDER BROTHER WHO TELLS ME TO TALK ABOUT IT 41 00:02:33,931 --> 00:02:35,411 AND GET IT OUT, 42 00:02:35,413 --> 00:02:38,243 AND IT DON'T BUILD UP SO HIGH IN YOUR HEART. 43 00:02:38,241 --> 00:02:47,861 ♪♪ 44 00:02:47,862 --> 00:02:49,412 YOU OPEN MY WALLET UP, AND THE FIRST PICTURE 45 00:02:49,413 --> 00:02:50,793 YOU SEE IS JEFFREY. 46 00:02:50,793 --> 00:02:53,933 THAT'S MY SON. THAT'S JEFFREY. 47 00:02:53,931 --> 00:02:58,001 I JUST... 48 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,620 I LIKE LOOKING AT HIM EVERY TIME I OPEN MY WALLET UP. 49 00:03:00,620 --> 00:03:03,760 ♪♪ 50 00:03:03,758 --> 00:03:06,308 HE WAS JUST A GOOD KID. 51 00:03:06,310 --> 00:03:08,690 HE LOVED DOGS, HE LOVED FOOTBALL, 52 00:03:08,689 --> 00:03:10,999 HE LOVED MOTORCYCLES. 53 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,790 HE WAS AN ALL-AMERICAN GUY, YOU KNOW? 54 00:03:12,793 --> 00:03:16,483 HE REALLY WAS. 55 00:03:16,482 --> 00:03:18,622 HE LOVED PRETTY WOMEN. 56 00:03:20,758 --> 00:03:25,548 LAST ONE I MET, I WAS SITTING AT THE HOUSE, AND THEY DROVE UP, 57 00:03:25,551 --> 00:03:27,931 AND HE INTRODUCED HER. 58 00:03:27,931 --> 00:03:29,791 "DAD, THIS IS MY NEW GIRLFRIEND, BROOK." 59 00:03:33,482 --> 00:03:35,212 SHE WAS A BEAUTIFUL YOUNG GIRL. 60 00:03:35,206 --> 00:03:37,966 SHE REALLY WAS. 61 00:03:37,965 --> 00:03:42,065 I TOLD HER I WAS GLAD TO MEET HER. 62 00:03:42,068 --> 00:03:47,028 HE SAID THAT, THE NEXT DAY, THAT THEY WAS GOING, YOU KNOW, 63 00:03:47,034 --> 00:03:51,554 GO ON VACATION TO MISSISSIPPI. 64 00:03:51,551 --> 00:03:56,031 [ ENGINE STARTS ] 65 00:03:56,034 --> 00:03:58,034 THE NEXT MORNING, HE GOT UP, 66 00:03:58,034 --> 00:04:00,934 SAID HE WAS GOING TO GO PICK UP BROOK, 67 00:04:00,931 --> 00:04:03,591 AND HE HUGGED AND KISSED ME BYE, 68 00:04:03,586 --> 00:04:05,586 AND, UH... 69 00:04:05,586 --> 00:04:08,586 THAT'S THE LAST TIME I HEARD FROM HIM. 70 00:04:08,586 --> 00:04:15,026 ♪♪ 71 00:04:15,034 --> 00:04:18,554 [ INSECTS CHIRPING ] 72 00:04:18,551 --> 00:04:22,031 IT WAS ABOUT 7:30 AT NIGHT 73 00:04:22,034 --> 00:04:23,794 WHEN TWO COP CARS SHOWED UP, 74 00:04:23,793 --> 00:04:25,243 SHERIFF DEPARTMENT'S, 75 00:04:25,241 --> 00:04:26,721 AND AS THEY WAS WALKING IN, 76 00:04:26,724 --> 00:04:29,524 ONE OF THEM HANDED ME A PIECE OF PAPER 77 00:04:29,517 --> 00:04:31,717 AND TOLD ME TO CALL THAT NUMBER. 78 00:04:33,827 --> 00:04:34,997 AND WHEN I CALLED IT... 79 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,720 HELLO. MY NAME IS PASKIEL WOLFE. 80 00:04:36,724 --> 00:04:39,934 IT WAS MORTICIAN'S OFFICE. 81 00:04:39,931 --> 00:04:45,591 AND I TOLD HIM WHO I WAS, AND HE SAID THAT HE HAD... 82 00:04:45,586 --> 00:04:48,066 THERE HAD BEEN AN ACCIDENT DOWN THERE, 83 00:04:48,068 --> 00:04:51,898 AND THEY HAD FOUND MY SON'S WALLET, 84 00:04:51,896 --> 00:04:55,546 AND COULD I DESCRIBE MY SON? 85 00:04:55,551 --> 00:04:59,451 AND I WENT, "YEAH, SURE. HE'S ABOUT 5 FOOT 10, 86 00:04:59,448 --> 00:05:01,238 5 FOOT 11. 87 00:05:01,241 --> 00:05:04,861 HE'S ABOUT 177 POUNDS. 88 00:05:04,862 --> 00:05:06,662 HE'S GOT HAZEL EYES." 89 00:05:06,655 --> 00:05:10,895 I SAID, "HE'S GOT A TATTOO ON EACH SIDE OF HIS CHEST." 90 00:05:10,896 --> 00:05:13,206 AND HE SAID, "I HATE TO INFORM YOU, 91 00:05:13,206 --> 00:05:15,166 BUT YOUR SON HAS BEEN KILLED." 92 00:05:15,172 --> 00:05:16,282 HE DIDN'T SAY KILLED. 93 00:05:16,275 --> 00:05:18,445 HE SAID, "YOUR SON HAS BEEN MURDERED." 94 00:05:18,448 --> 00:05:28,448 ♪♪ 95 00:05:28,448 --> 00:05:38,478 ♪♪ 96 00:05:38,482 --> 00:05:42,722 Woman: I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT JEFF WHEN I MET HIM, 97 00:05:42,724 --> 00:05:45,104 NOTHING, UM, 98 00:05:45,103 --> 00:05:47,143 JUST, "HEY, YOU'RE CUTE. LET'S GO." 99 00:05:47,137 --> 00:05:55,167 ♪♪ 100 00:05:55,172 --> 00:05:57,832 HE WAS REAL CHARMING, 101 00:05:57,827 --> 00:06:02,657 REAL CHARMING, AND SWEET, AND CUTE. 102 00:06:02,655 --> 00:06:05,615 HE HAD THE TATTOOS AND THE LONG HAIR, 103 00:06:05,620 --> 00:06:08,830 AND, YOU KNOW, UM, 104 00:06:08,827 --> 00:06:10,717 HE WAS EXCITING. 105 00:06:13,275 --> 00:06:15,895 IT WAS ONLY A COUPLE WEEKS BEFORE WE HAD LEFT 106 00:06:15,896 --> 00:06:19,026 FOR MISSISSIPPI. 107 00:06:19,034 --> 00:06:23,834 IT WAS A BUSINESS TRIP THAT WE WENT ON. 108 00:06:23,827 --> 00:06:25,897 WE WERE GOING TO MAKE A FUN TIME OUT OF IT, 109 00:06:25,896 --> 00:06:27,996 BUT WE WERE GOING TO COLLECT MONEY. 110 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:35,720 ♪♪ 111 00:06:35,724 --> 00:06:39,144 AT THAT POINT IN MY LIFE, AT 18, I HAD NO FEAR. 112 00:06:39,137 --> 00:06:43,027 I WAS FEARLESS, AND I WOULD DO ANYTHING. 113 00:06:43,034 --> 00:06:52,174 ♪♪ 114 00:06:52,172 --> 00:06:55,692 I COULD TELL SOMETHING WASN'T RIGHT WHEN WE GOT THERE. 115 00:06:55,689 --> 00:06:58,519 ♪♪ 116 00:06:58,517 --> 00:06:59,787 IT WAS DARK. 117 00:06:59,793 --> 00:07:01,103 THERE WASN'T A PORCH LIGHT ON, 118 00:07:01,103 --> 00:07:04,173 AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS STRANGE AT FIRST BECAUSE, 119 00:07:04,172 --> 00:07:06,172 IN THE COUNTRY, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR PORCH LIGHT ON, 120 00:07:06,172 --> 00:07:07,382 ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT. 121 00:07:07,379 --> 00:07:09,239 OKAY? 122 00:07:09,241 --> 00:07:11,931 AND THAT MAN, GARY SIMMONS, 123 00:07:11,931 --> 00:07:14,931 HE WAS SITTING ON THE STEPS. 124 00:07:14,931 --> 00:07:17,761 AND HE LOOKED KIND OF CREEPY TO ME. 125 00:07:17,758 --> 00:07:20,408 LIKE, HE CREEPED ME OUT. 126 00:07:20,413 --> 00:07:23,243 BUT JEFF HAD TOLD ME THAT THESE WERE HIS FRIENDS, 127 00:07:23,241 --> 00:07:25,281 SO I DIDN'T QUESTION IT. 128 00:07:25,275 --> 00:07:27,405 [ SIGHS ] 129 00:07:27,413 --> 00:07:29,863 YEAH... 130 00:07:29,862 --> 00:07:33,142 I WISH I WOULD HAVE ASKED QUESTIONS THAT DAY. 131 00:07:33,137 --> 00:07:39,377 ♪♪ 132 00:07:39,379 --> 00:07:46,279 ♪♪ 133 00:07:46,275 --> 00:07:48,545 WHEN WE WENT INTO THE KITCHEN, 134 00:07:48,551 --> 00:07:52,381 I WAS SITTING AT THE END OF THE TABLE, ROLLING A JOINT. 135 00:07:52,379 --> 00:07:56,279 THEY WERE TALKING JUST LIKE FRIENDS. 136 00:07:56,275 --> 00:07:59,275 THEY WEREN'T YELLING OR SCREAMING. 137 00:07:59,275 --> 00:08:02,685 THERE WAS NO THREATS. 138 00:08:02,689 --> 00:08:04,999 I MEAN, I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE JUST GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION 139 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,720 AND, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, AND IT WOULD BE DONE. 140 00:08:09,724 --> 00:08:14,594 ♪♪ 141 00:08:14,586 --> 00:08:16,856 THAT'S WHEN... 142 00:08:16,862 --> 00:08:18,902 I HEARD THE GUNSHOTS. 143 00:08:18,896 --> 00:08:23,966 [ THREE GUNSHOTS ] 144 00:08:23,965 --> 00:08:29,855 ♪♪ 145 00:08:29,862 --> 00:08:31,312 Man: I WAS GETTING READY TO COME TO WORK, 146 00:08:31,310 --> 00:08:34,000 AND USUALLY I TURN MY POLICE RADIO ON WHEN I GET UP, 147 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,550 AND I HEARD THE CHATTER ON THE RADIO. 148 00:08:37,551 --> 00:08:40,861 ♪♪ 149 00:08:40,862 --> 00:08:44,932 THERE WAS A FEMALE SAYING THAT HER BOYFRIEND HAD BEEN SHOT, 150 00:08:44,931 --> 00:08:48,171 SO I JUST WENT STRAIGHT TO THE SCENE. 151 00:08:48,172 --> 00:08:52,932 WHEN I GET THERE, I SEE A FEMALE WHO'S HYSTERICAL. 152 00:08:52,931 --> 00:08:56,071 IT WAS KIND OF REALLY HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE WAS SAYING 153 00:08:56,068 --> 00:08:57,928 BECAUSE SHE WAS SO HYSTERICAL. 154 00:08:57,931 --> 00:08:59,721 THEY SHOT HIM. 155 00:08:59,724 --> 00:09:02,314 I WAS TRYING TO JUST GET HER TO CALM DOWN ENOUGH 156 00:09:02,310 --> 00:09:05,860 TO TELL ME WHO HAD BEEN SHOT. 157 00:09:05,862 --> 00:09:07,832 SHE KEPT REPEATING THE SAME THING OVER, 158 00:09:07,827 --> 00:09:09,827 "THEY SHOT HIM. THEY SHOT HIM. THEY SHOT HIM." 159 00:09:09,827 --> 00:09:19,337 ♪♪ 160 00:09:19,344 --> 00:09:24,664 ♪♪ 161 00:09:24,655 --> 00:09:29,025 AS I GO TO ENTER, THERE WAS NOBODY IN THE HOUSE. 162 00:09:29,034 --> 00:09:32,904 I NOTICE THAT IT'S CLEAN, IMMACULATE. 163 00:09:32,896 --> 00:09:34,856 YOU COULD EAT OFF THE FLOORS. 164 00:09:34,862 --> 00:09:37,282 THERE'S NO SIGNS OF BLOOD, 165 00:09:37,275 --> 00:09:40,205 BUT WE WERE EXPECTING TO FIND A BODY, 166 00:09:40,206 --> 00:09:44,166 SO WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE HAD AT THAT TIME. 167 00:09:44,172 --> 00:09:46,832 IT WENT THROUGH MY MIND THAT MAYBE THAT SHE WAS JUST DRUNK 168 00:09:46,827 --> 00:09:48,687 OR HIGH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, 169 00:09:48,689 --> 00:09:51,859 BUT SHE WAS SO INTENSE. 170 00:09:51,862 --> 00:09:54,172 I MEAN, YOU KNEW THAT SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED. 171 00:09:54,172 --> 00:10:04,032 ♪♪ 172 00:10:04,034 --> 00:10:08,934 ♪♪ 173 00:10:08,931 --> 00:10:13,381 Weber: I WAS LOOKING DOWN WHEN THE GUNSHOTS WENT OFF, 174 00:10:13,379 --> 00:10:17,099 AND WHEN I LOOKED UP, JEFF FELL. 175 00:10:17,103 --> 00:10:24,213 ♪♪ 176 00:10:24,206 --> 00:10:25,446 HE TOOK ME IN THE OTHER ROOM, 177 00:10:25,448 --> 00:10:27,898 TIED ME UP AND THREW ME IN THE BOX. 178 00:10:27,896 --> 00:10:29,996 NO! NO! 179 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,310 IT'S A METAL BOX, AND THERE WAS A LOCK ON IT, 180 00:10:33,310 --> 00:10:35,100 AND I WAS LOCKED IN THERE. 181 00:10:35,103 --> 00:10:37,243 LET ME OUT! 182 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:50,030 ♪♪ 183 00:10:50,034 --> 00:10:53,624 THIS SEQUENCES OF EVENTS IS BLURRY TO ME 184 00:10:53,620 --> 00:10:57,310 BECAUSE I DO HAVE PTSD, SO BEAR WITH ME. 185 00:10:57,310 --> 00:11:00,210 [ SNIFFLES ] AH... 186 00:11:00,206 --> 00:11:10,206 ♪♪ 187 00:11:10,206 --> 00:11:13,516 ♪♪ 188 00:11:13,517 --> 00:11:17,657 JEFF IS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ME, JUST LIKE YOU ARE RIGHT NOW, 189 00:11:17,655 --> 00:11:21,655 BUT THERE'S A TABLE IN BETWEEN US. 190 00:11:21,655 --> 00:11:24,715 I WAS LOOKING DOWN WHEN THE GUNSHOTS WENT OFF. 191 00:11:24,724 --> 00:11:26,554 [ THREE GUNSHOTS ] 192 00:11:26,551 --> 00:11:29,481 AND WHEN I LOOKED UP, 193 00:11:29,482 --> 00:11:32,002 JEFF FELL, 194 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,280 AND TIMOTHY MILANO WAS STANDING BEHIND HIM WITH THE GUN. 195 00:11:35,275 --> 00:11:39,855 ♪♪ 196 00:11:39,862 --> 00:11:44,032 WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT TIMOTHY MILANO WAS THERE. 197 00:11:44,034 --> 00:11:46,344 IT WAS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE GARY. 198 00:11:46,344 --> 00:11:55,624 ♪♪ 199 00:11:55,620 --> 00:11:58,240 JEFF IS ON THE FLOOR IN A PUDDLE OF BLOOD 200 00:11:58,241 --> 00:12:02,901 AND HIS BLOOD ALL OVER THE BLINDS. 201 00:12:02,896 --> 00:12:06,096 IT WAS BAD. 202 00:12:06,103 --> 00:12:09,663 GARY CAME AROUND THE BAR, AND HE GRABBED ME. 203 00:12:09,655 --> 00:12:14,585 AND HE BASICALLY, LIKE, JUST BEAR-HUGGED ME, PICKED ME UP, 204 00:12:14,586 --> 00:12:17,476 AND I'M THINKING, "OH... I'M FIXING TO DIE." 205 00:12:17,482 --> 00:12:20,032 NO! NO! LET ME GO! 206 00:12:20,034 --> 00:12:23,724 HELP! HELP! NO! 207 00:12:23,724 --> 00:12:29,074 ♪♪ 208 00:12:29,068 --> 00:12:30,858 [ SIGHS ] 209 00:12:30,862 --> 00:12:33,342 I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO KILL ME. 210 00:12:35,413 --> 00:12:41,973 ♪♪ 211 00:12:41,965 --> 00:12:45,065 [ WHIMPERING ] 212 00:12:45,068 --> 00:12:46,788 PLEASE STOP! PLEASE DON'T DO THIS! 213 00:12:46,793 --> 00:12:50,793 PLEASE! PLEASE! 214 00:12:50,793 --> 00:12:52,973 [ MUFFLED SCREAM ] 215 00:12:52,965 --> 00:12:56,335 Weber: GARY TOOK ME IN THE OTHER ROOM, 216 00:12:56,344 --> 00:12:59,174 TIED ME UP AND THREW ME IN THE BOX. 217 00:12:59,172 --> 00:13:02,792 NO! NO! 218 00:13:02,793 --> 00:13:06,453 ♪♪ 219 00:13:06,448 --> 00:13:08,548 IT WAS A METAL BOX. 220 00:13:08,551 --> 00:13:12,171 IT WAS LIKE, I WOULD SAY, THE ARMY SURPLUS BOXES. 221 00:13:14,379 --> 00:13:18,339 AND I WAS LOCKED IN THERE. 222 00:13:18,344 --> 00:13:20,694 PLEASE! 223 00:13:20,689 --> 00:13:21,829 ANYBODY? 224 00:13:21,827 --> 00:13:24,447 THIS BOX WAS COMPLETE DARKNESS. 225 00:13:24,448 --> 00:13:26,618 PLEASE HELP ME! 226 00:13:26,620 --> 00:13:31,170 I PRAYED A LOT IN THAT BOX 227 00:13:31,172 --> 00:13:33,102 BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK I WAS COMING HOME. 228 00:13:37,758 --> 00:13:39,758 GOD, PLEASE. 229 00:13:39,758 --> 00:13:41,168 I JUST KEPT PRAYING TO GOD. 230 00:13:41,172 --> 00:13:45,282 I JUST KEPT TELLING HIM, YOU KNOW, "HELP ME GET OUT OF HERE." 231 00:13:45,275 --> 00:13:48,305 YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T WANT TO DIE IN A... 232 00:13:52,103 --> 00:13:54,553 [ SNIFFLES ] 233 00:13:54,551 --> 00:13:56,071 [ SIGHS ] 234 00:13:56,068 --> 00:14:01,788 [ FOOTSTEPS FALL ] 235 00:14:01,793 --> 00:14:04,793 NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. 236 00:14:04,793 --> 00:14:07,173 GARY WOULD COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, 237 00:14:07,172 --> 00:14:08,452 TAKE ME OUT. 238 00:14:11,413 --> 00:14:14,763 BE A GOOD GIRL NOW. 239 00:14:14,758 --> 00:14:17,478 AND, UH... 240 00:14:17,482 --> 00:14:19,282 I WAS BASICALLY TOLD 241 00:14:19,275 --> 00:14:20,995 HOW WELL I PERFORMED SEXUALLY 242 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,000 DETERMINED IF I LIVED OR IF I DIED BASICALLY. 243 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,070 [ CHOKED SOBS ] 244 00:14:28,068 --> 00:14:30,718 THEN HE RAPED ME 245 00:14:30,724 --> 00:14:32,904 AND PUT ME BACK IN THE BOX. 246 00:14:32,896 --> 00:14:35,966 ♪♪ 247 00:14:35,965 --> 00:14:39,275 I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW LONG I WAS IN THERE, 248 00:14:39,275 --> 00:14:43,375 AND I WAS AFRAID... 249 00:14:43,379 --> 00:14:44,689 BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE 250 00:14:44,689 --> 00:14:46,619 GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO TO ME. 251 00:14:46,620 --> 00:14:49,340 [ SOBBING SOFTLY ] 252 00:14:49,344 --> 00:14:54,694 ♪♪ 253 00:14:54,689 --> 00:14:59,759 ♪♪ 254 00:14:59,758 --> 00:15:01,788 Merrill: AS WE WORKED AROUND THE HOUSE, 255 00:15:01,793 --> 00:15:05,213 THERE WAS A BOAT. 256 00:15:05,206 --> 00:15:08,446 I NOTICED BLOOD ON A MACHETE, 257 00:15:08,448 --> 00:15:11,338 AND THERE WAS ALSO AN AX THAT HAD SOME BLOOD ON IT. 258 00:15:12,413 --> 00:15:16,243 THERE APPEARED TO BE BLOOD IN THE BOAT. 259 00:15:16,241 --> 00:15:17,831 WHEN I HAD SEEN THE BLOOD IN THE BOAT, 260 00:15:17,827 --> 00:15:21,167 I KNEW WE HAD A MURDER. 261 00:15:21,172 --> 00:15:25,972 WE WENT INTO THE BAYOU LOOKING FOR JEFFREY WOLFE'S BODY. 262 00:15:25,965 --> 00:15:28,585 WE DID NOT GO FAR, WE DID NOT GO 50 FEET 263 00:15:28,586 --> 00:15:32,136 BEFORE WE STARTED SEEING... 264 00:15:32,137 --> 00:15:34,547 I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY THAT. 265 00:15:34,551 --> 00:15:36,381 UM... 266 00:15:36,379 --> 00:15:37,969 REMAINS. 267 00:15:37,965 --> 00:15:44,205 ♪♪ 268 00:15:44,206 --> 00:15:48,276 ♪♪ 269 00:15:48,275 --> 00:15:52,545 THE REMAINS WERE CUT IN VERY SMALL PIECES. 270 00:15:52,551 --> 00:15:54,861 I THINK THE BIGGEST PIECE, YOU KNOW, WAS A STRIP. 271 00:15:54,862 --> 00:15:59,972 IT WAS PROBABLY 3 INCHES BY 5 INCHES. 272 00:15:59,965 --> 00:16:02,755 TO ME, THEY JUST LOOKED LIKE PIECES OF MEAT. 273 00:16:02,758 --> 00:16:08,688 ♪♪ 274 00:16:08,689 --> 00:16:14,279 GARY SIMMONS WAS A BUTCHER AT A LOCAL STORE, 275 00:16:14,275 --> 00:16:16,655 AND I THINK HE CUT HIM UP IN SMALLER PIECES 276 00:16:16,655 --> 00:16:19,965 HOPING THAT THE ALLIGATORS WOULD EAT HIM, THE FISH WOULD EAT HIM, 277 00:16:19,965 --> 00:16:23,205 AND THE BONES WOULD SINK... BECAUSE BONES SINK, 278 00:16:23,206 --> 00:16:25,166 MEAT FLOATS. 279 00:16:25,172 --> 00:16:29,932 ♪♪ 280 00:16:29,931 --> 00:16:33,071 WE PICKED UP A LOT OF REMAINS. 281 00:16:35,448 --> 00:16:37,168 YOU COULD SEE GARBAGE BAGS... 282 00:16:39,241 --> 00:16:42,481 AND INSIDE THOSE GARBAGE BAGS ARE JEFFREY WOLFE. 283 00:16:45,172 --> 00:16:48,592 WE FOUND HIS HEAD. 284 00:16:48,586 --> 00:16:50,856 REACHED DOWN AND GRABBED IT, 285 00:16:50,862 --> 00:16:53,792 PICKED IT UP OUT OF THE WATER. 286 00:16:53,793 --> 00:16:56,313 YEAH. 287 00:16:59,965 --> 00:17:01,965 IT'S A VERY WEIRD THING, 288 00:17:01,965 --> 00:17:05,895 JUST STARED INTO THE EYES OF ANOTHER HUMAN BEING 289 00:17:05,896 --> 00:17:07,136 WHILE YOU'RE HOLDING THEM BY THE HAIR OF THE HEAD, 290 00:17:07,137 --> 00:17:08,277 AND THERE'S NOTHING UNDERNEATH. 291 00:17:08,275 --> 00:17:10,235 THERE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST NEVER... 292 00:17:12,275 --> 00:17:15,135 I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S WORDS TO EVEN EXPLAIN THAT. 293 00:17:15,137 --> 00:17:17,617 I HAD TO STOP. 294 00:17:17,620 --> 00:17:23,930 ♪♪ 295 00:17:23,931 --> 00:17:30,551 ♪♪ 296 00:17:30,551 --> 00:17:34,411 Paskiel: I WAS IN THE BEDROOM PACKING MY SUITCASE, 297 00:17:34,413 --> 00:17:37,103 AND MY LITTLE BROTHER SHOWED UP. 298 00:17:40,068 --> 00:17:41,518 HE PUT HIS ARM AROUND ME AND HE SAID, 299 00:17:41,517 --> 00:17:43,407 "THEY AIN'T GOING TO LET YOU SEE JEFFREY." 300 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,310 I SAID, "AIN'T NOBODY GOING TO STOP ME 301 00:17:47,310 --> 00:17:49,520 FROM SEEING MY SON. 302 00:17:49,517 --> 00:17:50,897 NOBODY." 303 00:17:50,896 --> 00:17:56,996 ♪♪ 304 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,550 AND HE SAID, "BUBBA, THEY CUT JEFFREY 305 00:17:58,551 --> 00:18:02,281 UP IN 88 SOMETHING PIECES. 306 00:18:02,275 --> 00:18:05,475 THEY'RE LOOKING FOR HIS BODY PARTS NOW, AT NIGHT." 307 00:18:08,517 --> 00:18:11,447 SO I JUST FELL ON OVER INTO THE BED, AND I CRIED, 308 00:18:11,448 --> 00:18:13,478 AND I CRIED, AND I CRIED. 309 00:18:13,482 --> 00:18:19,622 [ SOBBING ] 310 00:18:19,620 --> 00:18:28,970 ♪♪ 311 00:18:28,965 --> 00:18:31,995 MY SON WEIGHED 177 POUNDS. 312 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,590 THEY FOUND 118 POUNDS OF HIM 313 00:18:35,586 --> 00:18:39,686 BECAUSE THE ALLIGATOR ATE THE REST OF HIM. 314 00:18:39,689 --> 00:18:43,029 WHY THEY DID THAT TO MY BOY, I DON'T KNOW. 315 00:18:43,034 --> 00:18:46,174 YOU KNOW... 316 00:18:46,172 --> 00:18:48,832 HE JUST TURNED 21. 317 00:18:48,827 --> 00:18:52,857 HE WAS A GREAT KID. HE REALLY WAS. 318 00:18:52,862 --> 00:18:54,792 I NEVER THOUGHT I'D HAVE TO BURY HIM. 319 00:18:59,172 --> 00:19:02,312 NEVER THOUGHT I'D HAVE TO DO SOMETHING THAT BAD. 320 00:19:02,310 --> 00:19:10,520 ♪♪ 321 00:19:10,517 --> 00:19:15,717 ♪♪ 322 00:19:15,724 --> 00:19:18,244 [ TELEPHONE RINGING ] 323 00:19:18,241 --> 00:19:21,211 Weber: I FELL ASLEEP IN THE BOX, 324 00:19:21,206 --> 00:19:25,656 AND WHEN I WOKE UP, I HEARD THE PHONE RINGING. 325 00:19:25,655 --> 00:19:29,655 [ TELEPHONE RINGING ] 326 00:19:29,655 --> 00:19:31,135 Man: DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT... 327 00:19:31,137 --> 00:19:33,757 Weber: AND IT WENT TO VOICEMAIL, 328 00:19:33,758 --> 00:19:35,548 AND I WAS THINKING IN MY MIND, 329 00:19:35,551 --> 00:19:37,721 I WAS LIKE, UM, 330 00:19:37,724 --> 00:19:40,144 "IF YOU'RE EVER GOING TO GET OUT OF HERE, 331 00:19:40,137 --> 00:19:42,307 NOW IS THE TIME." 332 00:19:42,310 --> 00:19:45,590 THEY HAD ME, LIKE, HOGTIED, 333 00:19:45,586 --> 00:19:47,856 BUT I... I'M A COUNTRY GIRL, 334 00:19:47,862 --> 00:19:50,282 AND YOU CAN'T GET ME WITH ON SOME KNOTS. 335 00:19:53,172 --> 00:19:55,762 THEY TIED A... KNOT, OKAY, 336 00:19:55,758 --> 00:19:58,138 BIG TIME, 337 00:19:58,137 --> 00:20:00,897 AND I WAS SO SMALL 338 00:20:00,896 --> 00:20:04,586 THAT I WAS ABLE TO, 339 00:20:04,586 --> 00:20:06,756 LIKE, GET ON MY KNEES 340 00:20:06,758 --> 00:20:11,548 AND HAVE MY SHOULDERS PUSH UP, 341 00:20:11,551 --> 00:20:14,761 AND SO I KEPT TRYING TO PUSH THE LID OPEN. 342 00:20:14,758 --> 00:20:16,408 [ RATTLING ] 343 00:20:16,413 --> 00:20:18,553 [ GRUNTING ] 344 00:20:24,137 --> 00:20:25,927 AND THEN, FINALLY, IT JUST GAVE. 345 00:20:25,931 --> 00:20:35,381 ♪♪ 346 00:20:35,379 --> 00:20:39,689 ♪♪ 347 00:20:39,689 --> 00:20:45,239 AND I LOOK AROUND... NOBODY'S THERE... 348 00:20:45,241 --> 00:20:47,381 AND EVERYTHING WAS CLEAN. 349 00:20:47,379 --> 00:20:50,589 EVERYTHING WAS CLEAN. THERE'S NO BODY. 350 00:20:50,586 --> 00:20:53,656 THERE'S NOTHING, 351 00:20:53,655 --> 00:20:56,335 AND NOBODY IS THERE. 352 00:20:56,344 --> 00:21:00,484 SO I HIT THAT DOOR, AND I TOOK OFF DOWN THAT ROAD, 353 00:21:00,482 --> 00:21:03,172 AND I RAN TO THAT LADY'S HOUSE THAT WAS... 354 00:21:03,172 --> 00:21:06,002 SHE WAS ACROSS THE STREET AND TO THE LEFT. 355 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,070 AND I RAN. 356 00:21:08,068 --> 00:21:09,828 I RAN SO FAST. 357 00:21:09,827 --> 00:21:13,277 ♪♪ 358 00:21:13,275 --> 00:21:15,685 AND ABOUT THAT TIME, 359 00:21:15,689 --> 00:21:18,209 I LOOKED UP, 360 00:21:18,206 --> 00:21:20,856 AND GARY SIMMONS PULLED BACK UP AT THE HOUSE. 361 00:21:20,862 --> 00:21:26,762 ♪♪ 362 00:21:29,206 --> 00:21:34,966 ♪♪ 363 00:21:34,965 --> 00:21:37,825 Weber: I WAS SO SCARED WHEN I SEEN GARY PULL UP. 364 00:21:37,827 --> 00:21:40,167 I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO COME BACK AND GET ME, 365 00:21:40,172 --> 00:21:42,142 BUT HE DIDN'T SEE ME. 366 00:21:42,137 --> 00:21:44,447 I SEEN HIM. HE DIDN'T SEE ME. 367 00:21:44,448 --> 00:21:48,518 ♪♪ 368 00:21:48,517 --> 00:21:52,097 HE GETS OUT OF THE CAR, AND THEN HE WALKS INTO THE HOUSE. 369 00:21:54,896 --> 00:21:59,856 I WAS SHAKING, VISIBLY SHAKING IN FEAR. 370 00:21:59,862 --> 00:22:03,662 I REMEMBER MY TEETH CHATTERING LIKE... 371 00:22:03,655 --> 00:22:07,515 I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO DIE. 372 00:22:07,517 --> 00:22:11,927 JUST A FEW MINUTES LATER, HE RUNS OUT. 373 00:22:11,931 --> 00:22:14,211 HE REALIZED THAT I WAS GONE, 374 00:22:14,206 --> 00:22:17,306 AND HE GOT IN THE CAR, AND HE SPED OFF. 375 00:22:17,310 --> 00:22:22,720 ♪♪ 376 00:22:22,724 --> 00:22:26,664 AND THEN THE COPS STARTED SHOWING UP. 377 00:22:26,655 --> 00:22:32,025 ♪♪ 378 00:22:32,034 --> 00:22:34,934 THEY DIDN'T KEEP ME THERE VERY LONG. 379 00:22:34,931 --> 00:22:36,971 THEY TOOK ME TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 380 00:22:36,965 --> 00:22:42,585 ♪♪ 381 00:22:42,586 --> 00:22:45,616 AND THAT'S WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT THEY CUT HIS BODY UP. 382 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,100 I OVERHEARD THEM TALKING. 383 00:22:50,103 --> 00:22:53,173 THEY WERE FINDING BODY PARTS 384 00:22:53,172 --> 00:22:55,002 THAT LED TO THE BAYOU. 385 00:22:58,724 --> 00:23:00,764 [ SNIFFLING, STIFLED SOB ] 386 00:23:03,655 --> 00:23:05,995 NO, KEEP GOING. 387 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,660 I'M OKAY. 388 00:23:07,655 --> 00:23:11,655 ♪♪ 389 00:23:11,655 --> 00:23:14,615 UM... 390 00:23:14,620 --> 00:23:19,070 I HAD TO IDENTIFY HIS BODY. 391 00:23:19,068 --> 00:23:21,448 THEY JUST SHOWED ME THE PICTURE 392 00:23:21,448 --> 00:23:26,308 BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT TO HIS PARENTS, 393 00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:29,720 AND THAT CONSISTED OF 394 00:23:29,724 --> 00:23:31,284 ME IDENTIFYING HIS HEAD 395 00:23:31,275 --> 00:23:33,205 FLOATING IN A VAT OF WATER. 396 00:23:37,103 --> 00:23:41,763 I'll NEVER GET THAT IMAGE OUT OF MY MIND. 397 00:23:41,758 --> 00:23:44,518 WHEN I SEE JEFF NOW, THAT'S WHAT I SEE. 398 00:23:44,517 --> 00:23:50,547 ♪♪ 399 00:23:50,551 --> 00:23:52,691 Woman: I HAVE SOME PICTURES. 400 00:23:52,689 --> 00:23:56,239 ♪♪ 401 00:23:56,241 --> 00:23:58,481 WHERE DID YOU GET THESE? 402 00:23:58,482 --> 00:24:01,762 PASKIEL GAVE THEM TO ME. 403 00:24:01,758 --> 00:24:07,758 ♪♪ 404 00:24:07,758 --> 00:24:12,548 OH, MAN. 405 00:24:12,551 --> 00:24:14,861 I CAN'T GET OVER HIS SMILE. 406 00:24:14,862 --> 00:24:17,382 HE HAD THE PRETTIEST SMILE. 407 00:24:19,586 --> 00:24:22,276 THIS IS HARD. 408 00:24:22,275 --> 00:24:27,065 I HAVEN'T EVEN LOOKED AT HIM SINCE THAT DAY. 409 00:24:27,068 --> 00:24:29,548 I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PICTURES. 410 00:24:32,931 --> 00:24:35,831 DO YOU WANT TO KEEP THOSE PICTURES? 411 00:24:35,827 --> 00:24:37,657 YEAH. 412 00:24:37,655 --> 00:24:40,445 ♪♪ 413 00:24:40,448 --> 00:24:42,308 THANK YOU. 414 00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:51,660 ♪♪ 415 00:24:51,655 --> 00:24:55,855 ♪♪ 416 00:24:55,862 --> 00:24:57,452 OKAY. 417 00:25:01,413 --> 00:25:03,973 OKAY. 418 00:25:16,965 --> 00:25:24,135 ♪♪ 419 00:25:24,137 --> 00:25:27,687 HE HAD A DARK SIDE, 420 00:25:27,689 --> 00:25:31,339 A REALLY DARK SIDE, 421 00:25:31,344 --> 00:25:34,214 SO I WAS MORE WORRIED ABOUT CATCHING HIM. 422 00:25:34,206 --> 00:25:35,856 WOULD HE DO THIS AGAIN? 423 00:25:35,862 --> 00:25:37,552 WOULD HE DO IT TO SOMEONE ELSE? 424 00:25:37,551 --> 00:25:44,281 ♪♪ 425 00:25:44,275 --> 00:25:48,165 HE CALLED AND WANTED TO TURN HIMSELF IN TO A DEPUTY SHERIFF, 426 00:25:48,172 --> 00:25:50,972 AND WE ACTUALLY WENT TOGETHER AND PICKED HIM UP. 427 00:25:54,448 --> 00:25:56,688 I ADVISED HIM OF HIS RIGHTS. 428 00:25:56,689 --> 00:25:59,829 HE DID NOT SAY ANYTHING AT THAT TIME, 429 00:25:59,827 --> 00:26:03,277 BUT THERE WAS A TAPE THAT GARY SIMMONS HAD MADE. 430 00:26:03,275 --> 00:26:10,855 ♪♪ 431 00:26:10,862 --> 00:26:12,832 I GUESS IT'S A REAL MESS, ISN'T IT? 432 00:26:14,931 --> 00:26:16,791 IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO GO LIKE THAT. 433 00:26:20,241 --> 00:26:23,141 I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU. 434 00:26:23,137 --> 00:26:25,927 TO MY WAY OF THINKING, I DIDN'T HAVE MUCH OF A CHOICE. 435 00:26:30,482 --> 00:26:32,452 I MEAN, I'D ALREADY TAKEN HIS MONEY. 436 00:26:32,448 --> 00:26:41,478 ♪♪ 437 00:26:41,482 --> 00:26:51,002 ♪♪ 438 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,860 JEFFREY BROUGHT HIM TO THE HOUSE ONE DAY AND SAID, 439 00:26:52,862 --> 00:26:55,242 "DAD, THIS IS A FRIEND OF MINE. 440 00:26:55,241 --> 00:26:57,551 COULD HE STAY HERE FOR A WHILE?" 441 00:26:57,551 --> 00:26:59,141 AND I SAID, "YES." 442 00:26:59,137 --> 00:27:00,307 HERE YOU GO. 443 00:27:00,310 --> 00:27:02,340 I WAS SICK IN MY STOMACH. 444 00:27:02,344 --> 00:27:03,794 THANK YOU. 445 00:27:03,793 --> 00:27:05,663 I THOUGHT I'D DONE THE BOY A FAVOR BY LETTING HIM LIVE 446 00:27:05,655 --> 00:27:08,715 IN MY HOUSE FOR THREE OR FOUR WEEKS. 447 00:27:08,724 --> 00:27:10,284 I WASHED HIS CLOTHES. I FED HIM. 448 00:27:10,275 --> 00:27:12,205 I PUT A ROOF OVER HIS HEAD, 449 00:27:12,206 --> 00:27:14,376 AND I TOOK HIM TO THE STORE A COUPLE OF TIMES. 450 00:27:14,379 --> 00:27:20,029 ♪♪ 451 00:27:20,034 --> 00:27:22,174 AND HE REPAYS ME BACK BY SHOOTING MY SON 452 00:27:22,172 --> 00:27:26,212 SEVEN TIMES IN THE BACK, TWICE IN HIS CHEST. 453 00:27:26,206 --> 00:27:36,206 ♪♪ 454 00:27:36,206 --> 00:27:39,136 ♪♪ 455 00:27:39,137 --> 00:27:41,617 I DRANK A LOT. 456 00:27:41,620 --> 00:27:45,280 I DRANK ANYTHING I COULD GET MY HANDS ON. 457 00:27:45,275 --> 00:27:48,405 I WOULDN'T TALK TO NOBODY. 458 00:27:48,413 --> 00:27:50,763 I'D GO GET IN MY TRUCK 459 00:27:50,758 --> 00:27:53,478 AND GO DOWN TO MY BOY'S GRAVE SITE, 460 00:27:53,482 --> 00:27:56,102 SIT THERE AND DRINK BEER AND TALK TO HIM. 461 00:27:56,103 --> 00:27:59,213 ♪♪ 462 00:27:59,206 --> 00:28:01,026 I STAYED DRUNK QUITE A WHILE. 463 00:28:01,034 --> 00:28:11,034 ♪♪ 464 00:28:11,034 --> 00:28:13,934 ♪♪ 465 00:28:13,931 --> 00:28:16,141 I SAID GOODBYE TO ALL MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS 466 00:28:16,137 --> 00:28:20,687 BECAUSE MY POINT WAS TO TRY TO GET DOWN THERE 467 00:28:20,689 --> 00:28:23,479 AND GET AS CLOSE TO HIM AS I COULD AND KILL HIM. 468 00:28:23,482 --> 00:28:27,142 ♪♪ 469 00:28:27,137 --> 00:28:30,027 I PLANNED IT ALL OUT, 470 00:28:30,034 --> 00:28:32,624 AND I WAS GOING TO GET MY PISTOL, 471 00:28:32,620 --> 00:28:35,280 MY HOLLOW-POINT BULLETS, 472 00:28:35,275 --> 00:28:38,205 AND SHOOT BOTH OF THEM 473 00:28:38,206 --> 00:28:42,376 TILL I RAN OUT OF BULLETS, OR TILL I GOT SHOT. 474 00:28:45,448 --> 00:28:48,928 I DIDN'T CARE WHAT HAPPENED TO ME. 475 00:28:48,931 --> 00:28:52,861 THEY TOOK SOMETHING AWAY FROM ME NO ONE CAN REPLACE, NO ONE. 476 00:28:55,206 --> 00:28:57,856 I WENT DOWN THERE WITH SO MUCH HATE 477 00:28:57,862 --> 00:29:01,242 AND SO MUCH HURT 478 00:29:01,241 --> 00:29:03,791 IN MY HEART... 479 00:29:06,172 --> 00:29:09,412 THAT WHEN I WALKED INTO THAT COURTROOM, 480 00:29:09,413 --> 00:29:12,073 I SAID, "HERE'S MY CHANCE," 481 00:29:12,068 --> 00:29:14,968 AND NOBODY WAS GOING TO STOP ME, NOBODY. 482 00:29:14,965 --> 00:29:20,925 ♪♪ 483 00:29:23,827 --> 00:29:33,377 ♪♪ 484 00:29:33,379 --> 00:29:36,929 Paskiel: MY POINT WAS TO TRY TO GET DOWN THERE. 485 00:29:36,931 --> 00:29:38,791 AND GET AS CLOSE TO THEM AS I COULD 486 00:29:38,793 --> 00:29:41,033 AND KILL 'EM. 487 00:29:41,034 --> 00:29:43,214 THAT'S HOW COLD-HEARTED I WAS THEN. 488 00:29:43,206 --> 00:29:51,306 ♪♪ 489 00:29:51,310 --> 00:29:53,210 THERE WASN'T NO METAL DETECTORS ON THE WALLS. 490 00:29:53,206 --> 00:29:56,996 THERE WASN'T NOBODY WANDING YOU. 491 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,380 AND I SAID, "HERE'S MY CHANCE." 492 00:29:58,379 --> 00:30:00,379 YOU KNOW? 493 00:30:00,379 --> 00:30:05,719 I WAS DETERMINED TO DO WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO, 494 00:30:05,724 --> 00:30:07,314 AND NOBODY WAS GOING TO STOP ME. 495 00:30:07,310 --> 00:30:09,790 NOBODY. 496 00:30:09,793 --> 00:30:12,593 [ BREATHING ANXIOUSLY ] 497 00:30:12,586 --> 00:30:20,896 ♪♪ 498 00:30:20,896 --> 00:30:25,376 THEY ONLY BROUGHT ONE GUY IN, 499 00:30:25,379 --> 00:30:28,449 AND THE D.A. TOLD ME, HE SAID, 500 00:30:28,448 --> 00:30:31,278 "THAT'S ONE SITTING IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT THERE." 501 00:30:31,275 --> 00:30:34,925 I SAID, "WHERE'S THE OTHER ONE AT, THE ONE THAT I KNOW, TIMMY?" 502 00:30:34,931 --> 00:30:38,411 HE SAID, "WE'RE NOT BRINGING HIM IN HERE. 503 00:30:38,413 --> 00:30:40,413 WE'RE TRYING HIM SEPARATE." 504 00:30:42,586 --> 00:30:44,096 WHAT GOOD IT WOULD HAVE DONE ME TO KILL ONE 505 00:30:44,103 --> 00:30:46,623 AND NOT WHAT KILLED ANOTHER ONE, YOU KNOW? 506 00:30:46,620 --> 00:30:52,480 ♪♪ 507 00:30:52,482 --> 00:30:55,452 IF I COULD HAVE GOT TO BOTH OF THEM, 508 00:30:55,448 --> 00:30:58,378 I WOULD'VE KILLED BOTH OF THEM. YES, MA'AM. 509 00:30:58,379 --> 00:31:01,549 I DON'T MIND TELLING NOBODY 510 00:31:01,551 --> 00:31:03,971 BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BURY YOUR KIDS. 511 00:31:03,965 --> 00:31:10,755 ♪♪ 512 00:31:10,758 --> 00:31:18,968 ♪♪ 513 00:31:18,965 --> 00:31:22,375 Weber: I WAS THE ONLY LIVING WITNESS, 514 00:31:22,379 --> 00:31:25,449 AND WHEN YOU'RE THE ONLY WITNESS TO SOMETHING, 515 00:31:25,448 --> 00:31:28,278 IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN TO ME, 516 00:31:28,275 --> 00:31:30,165 THEY WOULD HAVE PROBABLY GOT AWAY WITH THAT. 517 00:31:32,758 --> 00:31:35,378 THAT'S WHY THEY TRIED TO HAVE ME KILLED FROM PRISON. 518 00:31:35,379 --> 00:31:38,479 ♪♪ 519 00:31:38,482 --> 00:31:40,172 RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. 520 00:31:40,172 --> 00:31:41,282 DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, 521 00:31:41,275 --> 00:31:43,275 THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? 522 00:31:43,275 --> 00:31:45,165 I DO. 523 00:31:45,172 --> 00:31:47,762 Weber: I HAD ARMED GUARDS, 524 00:31:47,758 --> 00:31:50,098 AND IT WAS SCARY 525 00:31:50,103 --> 00:31:52,453 BECAUSE HE'S SITTING RIGHT THERE STARING AT YOU. 526 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,690 HE JUST LOOKED LIKE PURE EVIL SITTING RIGHT THERE, 527 00:31:59,689 --> 00:32:01,999 AND I ALREADY KNEW WHAT HE WAS CAPABLE OF. 528 00:32:04,517 --> 00:32:06,587 I NEVER THINK ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT I DO 529 00:32:06,586 --> 00:32:08,276 UNTIL AFTER IT'S DONE, 530 00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:15,930 BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CROSS THE LINE. 531 00:32:18,413 --> 00:32:20,103 YOU PAY FOR IT. 532 00:32:23,068 --> 00:32:25,588 I GUESS IT'S TIME. 533 00:32:27,758 --> 00:32:32,518 ♪♪ 534 00:32:32,517 --> 00:32:35,547 Weber: I WAS SO SCARED. 535 00:32:35,551 --> 00:32:38,521 MY WHOLE BODY WAS SHAKING. 536 00:32:38,517 --> 00:32:40,277 MY HANDS WERE LIKE THIS. 537 00:32:40,275 --> 00:32:42,025 AND I'M TALKING NOT A LITTLE BIT, 538 00:32:42,034 --> 00:32:43,904 AND I WOULD TRY TO SIT ON MY HANDS, 539 00:32:43,896 --> 00:32:45,476 AND THEN THE LEGS WOULD GO. 540 00:32:45,482 --> 00:32:47,792 AND IT WAS... I COULDN'T MAKE IT STOP. 541 00:32:47,793 --> 00:32:50,833 ♪♪ 542 00:32:50,827 --> 00:32:53,687 I WAS SCARED. 543 00:32:53,689 --> 00:32:56,659 BUT JEFF'S PARENTS WERE THERE. 544 00:32:56,655 --> 00:32:59,715 THEY WERE RIGHT THERE. 545 00:32:59,724 --> 00:33:01,594 AND I KNEW IF THEY COULD SIT THERE AND TAKE IT, 546 00:33:01,586 --> 00:33:03,516 I COULD SIT THERE, AND I COULD MAKE SURE 547 00:33:03,517 --> 00:33:05,307 THAT JEFF DIDN'T DIE IN VAIN. 548 00:33:05,310 --> 00:33:07,210 HE WASN'T GOING TO DIE, 549 00:33:07,206 --> 00:33:10,136 AND JUST THESE PEOPLE WERE GOING TO GET AWAY WITH IT. 550 00:33:10,137 --> 00:33:12,237 I WASN'T GOING TO ALLOW THAT, 551 00:33:12,241 --> 00:33:13,971 AND I DIDN'T CARE HOW HARD IT WAS. 552 00:33:13,965 --> 00:33:21,585 ♪♪ 553 00:33:21,586 --> 00:33:24,236 IT WAS DARK. I COULDN'T BREATHE. 554 00:33:26,482 --> 00:33:30,342 I HAVE NO IDEA HOW I DID IT. 555 00:33:30,344 --> 00:33:32,624 I JUST DID IT 556 00:33:32,620 --> 00:33:34,550 BECAUSE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 557 00:33:39,103 --> 00:33:41,313 [ INHALES ] 558 00:33:41,310 --> 00:33:44,410 ♪♪ 559 00:33:44,413 --> 00:33:47,453 Man: I'M VERY PROUD THAT BROOK DID WELL. 560 00:33:47,448 --> 00:33:50,378 YOU NEVER KNOW HOW ANYBODY IS GOING TO BE ON THE STAND. 561 00:33:50,379 --> 00:33:54,069 GOT TO BE HARD TO GET UP AND TESTIFY TO WHAT SHE SAW 562 00:33:54,068 --> 00:33:56,618 AND HOW SHE WANTS HIM TO BURN 563 00:33:56,620 --> 00:33:59,380 FOR WHAT THEY DID TO HER AND TO JEFFREY. 564 00:33:59,379 --> 00:34:08,759 ♪♪ 565 00:34:08,758 --> 00:34:13,998 ♪♪ 566 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,380 Weber: I NEVER FELT SAFE AFTER THAT. 567 00:34:18,379 --> 00:34:21,929 EVER. 568 00:34:21,931 --> 00:34:25,281 AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT IN THE BACK OF MY MIND, 569 00:34:25,275 --> 00:34:27,785 SINCE GARY SIMMONS HAD PUT THE HIT OUT ON MY LIFE, 570 00:34:27,793 --> 00:34:30,723 THAT HE WAS GOING TO DO IT AGAIN. 571 00:34:30,724 --> 00:34:33,484 I CHANGED MY NAME. I CHANGED MY LAST NAME. 572 00:34:33,482 --> 00:34:36,552 I CUT ALL MY HAIR OFF, AND I DYED IT DARK. 573 00:34:36,551 --> 00:34:40,931 IT WAS BLONDE. 574 00:34:40,931 --> 00:34:42,521 WHEN YOU'RE ALWAYS AFRAID 575 00:34:42,517 --> 00:34:45,167 AND YOU'RE ALWAYS LOOKING BEHIND YOUR BACK, 576 00:34:45,172 --> 00:34:46,862 YOU'RE NEVER AT PEACE. 577 00:34:46,862 --> 00:34:56,662 ♪♪ 578 00:34:56,655 --> 00:35:06,275 ♪♪ 579 00:35:06,275 --> 00:35:15,715 ♪♪ 580 00:35:15,724 --> 00:35:19,764 I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER ONE THING AND ONE THING ONLY, GARY... 581 00:35:19,758 --> 00:35:22,378 WHEN YOU GO TAKE YOUR LAST BREATH, 582 00:35:22,379 --> 00:35:24,549 REMEMBER, WHEN YOU DIE, 583 00:35:24,551 --> 00:35:26,241 I'M GOING TO DRINK A COLD BEER ON YOUR ASS. 584 00:35:29,310 --> 00:35:37,720 ♪♪ 585 00:35:37,724 --> 00:35:39,004 Woman: THE MISSISSIPPI SUPREME COURT. 586 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,520 HAS SET AN EXECUTION DATE FOR DEATH ROW INMATE 587 00:35:41,517 --> 00:35:43,757 GARY CARL SIMMONS. 588 00:35:43,758 --> 00:35:46,758 Paskiel: SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THEY CALLED US AND TOLD US. 589 00:35:46,758 --> 00:35:52,478 THEY HAD SET AN EXECUTION DATE FOR GARY, 590 00:35:52,482 --> 00:35:56,142 AND DID WE WANT TO GO? 591 00:35:56,137 --> 00:35:58,547 AND I SAID, "YES, I SURE DO." 592 00:35:58,551 --> 00:36:02,381 ♪♪ 593 00:36:02,379 --> 00:36:06,549 I WANTED TO TALK TO GARY FACE-TO-FACE, 594 00:36:06,551 --> 00:36:08,171 BUT THEY WOULDN'T LET ME. 595 00:36:10,379 --> 00:36:13,239 THEY HAD BROUGHT HIM IN THERE, STRAPPED DOWN 596 00:36:13,241 --> 00:36:15,411 AND HAD THE IV IN HIS HAND. 597 00:36:15,413 --> 00:36:19,483 WELL, WE COULD SEE HIM, BUT HE COULDN'T SEE US, 598 00:36:19,482 --> 00:36:22,172 AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, IT WAS HIS SIDE OF THE FAMILY. 599 00:36:22,172 --> 00:36:26,762 ♪♪ 600 00:36:26,758 --> 00:36:29,448 IT TOOK ABOUT A MINUTE AND A HALF, 601 00:36:29,448 --> 00:36:32,408 TWO MINUTES, 602 00:36:32,413 --> 00:36:35,593 AND WHEN THEY PRONOUNCED HIM DEAD, 603 00:36:35,586 --> 00:36:39,166 I HUGGED MY WIFE, I CRIED A LITTLE BIT, 604 00:36:39,172 --> 00:36:41,242 I STOOD UP AND SAID, "HELL YEAH." 605 00:36:41,241 --> 00:36:50,861 ♪♪ 606 00:36:50,862 --> 00:37:00,282 ♪♪ 607 00:37:00,275 --> 00:37:06,995 ♪♪ 608 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,240 THIS WAS THE BIGGEST CASE OF MY LIFE, 609 00:37:10,241 --> 00:37:12,721 AND IT WAS MY SECOND MURDER CASE. 610 00:37:15,034 --> 00:37:19,104 THIS CASE GAVE ME A LOT MORE CONFIDENCE IN MYSELF. 611 00:37:19,103 --> 00:37:22,833 I GO TO BED KNOWING THAT I DID WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO, 612 00:37:22,827 --> 00:37:27,137 AND TIMOTHY IS IN JAIL FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE. 613 00:37:27,137 --> 00:37:31,447 THEY'VE EXECUTED GARY. 614 00:37:31,448 --> 00:37:35,098 FOR ME, IT WAS A CASE THAT I'll NEVER FORGET, 615 00:37:35,103 --> 00:37:38,523 BY NO MEANS. 616 00:37:38,517 --> 00:37:41,787 YEARS GO BY. 617 00:37:41,793 --> 00:37:44,413 I THINK ABOUT IT, AND I STILL THINK, "HOW COULD YOU DO THAT?" 618 00:37:44,413 --> 00:37:47,343 I JUST DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN DO THAT TO A HUMAN BEING, ANYBODY. 619 00:37:47,344 --> 00:37:53,414 MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL THE VICTIMS, ALL OF THEM, I MEAN... 620 00:37:53,413 --> 00:37:56,003 ALTHOUGH JEFFREY WAS THE ONE THAT GOT KILLED, 621 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,930 BROOK WAS A VICTIM. 622 00:37:58,931 --> 00:38:00,931 PASKIEL WAS A VICTIM. 623 00:38:00,931 --> 00:38:03,101 EVERY NOW AND THEN, THEY GO THROUGH MY MIND. 624 00:38:03,103 --> 00:38:07,213 YOU KNOW, I HOPE PASKIEL IS DOING WELL. 625 00:38:07,206 --> 00:38:12,166 I KNEW THAT BROOK HAD BEEN STRUGGLING WITH DRUGS, 626 00:38:12,172 --> 00:38:15,412 AND YOU HOPE THAT EVERYTHING CAME OUT OKAY FOR HER. 627 00:38:15,413 --> 00:38:16,453 YOU WISH THE BEST FOR HER. 628 00:38:16,448 --> 00:38:25,098 ♪♪ 629 00:38:25,103 --> 00:38:28,723 I HAD REAL BAD NIGHTMARES... 630 00:38:28,724 --> 00:38:31,214 REAL BAD. I WOULD WAKE UP SCREAMING. 631 00:38:31,206 --> 00:38:32,206 I COULDN'T SLEEP. 632 00:38:32,206 --> 00:38:33,406 EVERY TIME I WOULD CLOSE MY EYES, 633 00:38:33,413 --> 00:38:36,413 I WOULD SEE JEFF'S HEAD IN THAT WATER. 634 00:38:36,413 --> 00:38:38,623 THEN I WAS DOING, LIKE, DRUGS AND STUFF, 635 00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:41,790 SO I WAS JUST LOST. 636 00:38:41,793 --> 00:38:43,863 I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT BEHIND ME. 637 00:38:43,862 --> 00:38:46,692 I JUST WANTED TO BE NORMAL. 638 00:38:46,689 --> 00:38:54,379 ♪♪ 639 00:38:54,379 --> 00:38:57,929 IT'S JUST PART OF MY LIFE NOW. 640 00:38:57,931 --> 00:39:00,411 IT HAPPENED. I CAN'T CHANGE IT. 641 00:39:00,413 --> 00:39:03,283 I CAN'T GO BACK AND UNDO IT. 642 00:39:03,275 --> 00:39:08,275 YOU JUST LEARN HOW TO DEAL WITH IT THE BEST THAT YOU CAN. 643 00:39:08,275 --> 00:39:12,165 SOME DAYS, I AM A SURVIVOR, 644 00:39:12,172 --> 00:39:16,382 AND THEN, SOME DAYS, I'M STILL A VICTIM. 645 00:39:16,379 --> 00:39:19,829 YOU JUST DON'T GET OVER SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 646 00:39:19,827 --> 00:39:21,997 THIS CHANGES YOU. 647 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,830 IT... THIS RIPPED OUT PART OF MY SOUL, 648 00:39:25,827 --> 00:39:30,207 AND I'll NEVER HAVE THAT GIRL BACK THAT I USED TO BE, 649 00:39:30,206 --> 00:39:33,786 NEVER. 650 00:39:33,793 --> 00:39:36,933 I DON'T TRUST PEOPLE ANYMORE. 651 00:39:36,931 --> 00:39:39,481 AND I HAVE GUILT... 652 00:39:39,482 --> 00:39:41,972 SURVIVOR'S GUILT. 653 00:39:41,965 --> 00:39:46,995 YOU KNOW, I... SOMETIMES, I WISH IT WAS ME AND NOT HIM 654 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,100 BECAUSE THE HELL IS HERE. 655 00:39:50,103 --> 00:39:53,903 HE IS IN HEAVEN, YOU KNOW. 656 00:39:53,896 --> 00:39:57,236 HE'S AN ANGEL. 657 00:39:57,241 --> 00:39:59,521 AND IT'S HARD HERE. 658 00:40:02,965 --> 00:40:05,445 BUT I'M GOING TO BE OKAY. 659 00:40:05,448 --> 00:40:07,928 I JUST HOPE THAT JEFF'S PARENTS ARE OKAY. 660 00:40:07,931 --> 00:40:17,551 ♪♪ 661 00:40:17,551 --> 00:40:21,761 ♪♪ 662 00:40:21,758 --> 00:40:23,758 Paskiel: I STAYED HURT FOR A LONG TIME, 663 00:40:23,758 --> 00:40:26,278 A LONG TIME. 664 00:40:26,275 --> 00:40:28,585 BUT MY OLDEST BROTHER, 665 00:40:28,586 --> 00:40:32,236 HE'S A DEACON IN THE CHURCH. 666 00:40:32,241 --> 00:40:35,001 HE TOLD ME, HE SAID, "YOU CAN DRINK ALL YOU WANT," 667 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,900 AND DRINK AND DRINK AND PASS OUT, 668 00:40:36,896 --> 00:40:40,856 AND YOU'LL FORGET ABOUT IT WHILE YOU'RE PASSED OUT, 669 00:40:40,862 --> 00:40:43,382 BUT WHEN YOU WAKE UP, 670 00:40:43,379 --> 00:40:46,859 "YOU'RE IN THE SAME SPOT." 671 00:40:46,862 --> 00:40:49,312 AND I GOT TO THINKING ABOUT IT, 672 00:40:49,310 --> 00:40:52,030 AND FINALLY 673 00:40:52,034 --> 00:40:55,214 I GAVE UP THE DRINKING. 674 00:40:55,206 --> 00:40:59,856 MY WIFE, LYNDA, SHE STAYED WITH ME THROUGH THICK AND THIN, 675 00:40:59,862 --> 00:41:03,072 AND I LOVE HER FOR THAT. 676 00:41:03,068 --> 00:41:04,658 I STILL HURT, 677 00:41:04,655 --> 00:41:09,065 AND, UH, I SIT, AND I CRY A LOT. 678 00:41:09,068 --> 00:41:11,588 I REALLY MISS HIM. 679 00:41:13,793 --> 00:41:15,663 A LOT OF TIMES, I CAN BE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD, 680 00:41:15,655 --> 00:41:18,065 AND I TAKE MY RIGHT HAND, 681 00:41:18,068 --> 00:41:20,548 AND I'll PUSH IT OVER TO THE SIDE. 682 00:41:20,551 --> 00:41:24,861 AND ASK MY SON TO GRAB MY HAND. 683 00:41:24,862 --> 00:41:27,902 BUT... 684 00:41:27,896 --> 00:41:31,336 HE DON'T GRAB IT NO MORE, 685 00:41:31,344 --> 00:41:33,284 AND I KNOW HE'S NOT THERE. 686 00:41:33,275 --> 00:41:35,715 HE'S PROBABLY UP THERE WITH GOD. 687 00:41:38,620 --> 00:41:40,660 WHEN I GO TO HIS GRAVE SITE, 688 00:41:40,655 --> 00:41:43,685 I TALK TO HIM DOWN THERE. 689 00:41:43,689 --> 00:41:45,099 JEFF, THERE AIN'T A DAY GOES BY 690 00:41:45,103 --> 00:41:50,033 DAD DON'T THINK ABOUT YOU, NOT A DAY. 691 00:41:50,034 --> 00:41:54,594 I LOVE YOU, JEFF, AND I MISS YOU WITH ALL MY HEART AND SOUL, SON, 692 00:41:54,586 --> 00:41:57,096 MY HEART AND SOUL. 693 00:41:57,103 --> 00:42:02,033 ♪♪ 694 00:42:02,034 --> 00:42:04,454 I'D SAY I'D GIVE MY LIFE RIGHT NOW. 695 00:42:04,448 --> 00:42:06,658 RIGHT NOW WITHOUT EVEN BLINKING MY EYES, I'D GIVE IT. 696 00:42:06,655 --> 00:42:09,655 I'D GIVE MY LIFE FOR MY SON TO BE BACK. 697 00:42:12,172 --> 00:42:13,832 BYE, PAL. 698 00:42:13,827 --> 00:42:23,517 ♪♪ 699 00:42:23,517 --> 00:42:31,477 ♪♪