1 00:00:13,067 --> 00:00:16,097 WHEN I LOOKED AT JACK'S FACE INITIALLY, 2 00:00:16,100 --> 00:00:21,070 I KNEW IN MY HEART THAT IT WAS PERTAINING TO JAMIE. 3 00:00:21,067 --> 00:00:24,827 I JUST KNEW IT. 4 00:00:24,833 --> 00:00:29,673 ALL I COULD DO WAS SAY, "I'll NEVER LAUGH AGAIN." 5 00:00:34,033 --> 00:00:39,433 ONCE IN A WHILE, YOU LAY YOUR HEAD DOWN AT NIGHT... 6 00:00:39,433 --> 00:00:43,003 AND... 7 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,570 YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN, 8 00:00:46,567 --> 00:00:50,127 AND DARKNESS STARTS COMING IN. 9 00:00:57,733 --> 00:01:01,233 AT FIRST, IT WAS A LITTLE... YOU KNOW, I WAS LIKE, "NAH. 10 00:01:01,233 --> 00:01:03,473 NAH," YOU KNOW, "IT'S A BUNCH OF BULL." 11 00:01:03,467 --> 00:01:07,367 BUT, YOU KNOW, AFTER HEARING IT AND HEARING IT 12 00:01:07,367 --> 00:01:09,497 AND HEARING IT TWO OR THREE TIMES, 13 00:01:09,500 --> 00:01:12,070 THEN IT WASN'T A BUNCH OF BULL. 14 00:01:14,267 --> 00:01:21,367 I NEVER RAN ACROSS A CASE LIKE THIS WITH THAT MUCH DECEIT. 15 00:01:21,367 --> 00:01:24,927 IT WAS A ONCE-IN-A-LIFETIME THING, I THINK. 16 00:01:24,933 --> 00:01:26,903 I WOULD HOPE, ANYWAY. 17 00:01:26,900 --> 00:01:28,670 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? 18 00:01:38,667 --> 00:01:45,397 HE WAS JUST KIND OF LOOKING UP LIKE, "GOD, HELP ME." 19 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,670 AND TO ME, IT FELT LIKE HE WAS PRAYING FOR FORGIVENESS, 20 00:01:48,667 --> 00:01:52,967 BECAUSE WHATEVER HAD HAPPENED RIGHT BEFORE THAT MOMENT, 21 00:01:52,967 --> 00:01:55,427 HE KNEW THAT HE HAD BEEN WRONG, 22 00:01:55,433 --> 00:02:00,533 AND HE NEEDED TO BE GONE BECAUSE GOD WAS CALLING HIM, 23 00:02:00,533 --> 00:02:02,733 "YOU CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE. YOU'RE HARMING OTHERS, 24 00:02:02,733 --> 00:02:06,373 AND YOU'RE HARMING YOURSELF. I'M TAKING YOU HOME." 25 00:02:18,367 --> 00:02:21,367 Captions by VITAC... www.vitac.com 26 00:02:21,367 --> 00:02:24,397 CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS 27 00:02:59,667 --> 00:03:02,967 JACK WAS AN ORDAINED BAPTIST MINISTER, 28 00:03:02,967 --> 00:03:06,967 AND WE BELIEVE IN A GOOD, CHRISTIAN FOUNDATION. 29 00:03:06,967 --> 00:03:10,827 I LIKE FAMILY BEING WHAT I THOUGHT A FAMILY SHOULD BE, 30 00:03:10,833 --> 00:03:14,773 AND SO CHRISTMAS PROBABLY IS MY SPECIAL TIME OF THE YEAR, 31 00:03:14,767 --> 00:03:17,467 AND OF COURSE, IT'S CHRIST'S BIRTHDAY. 32 00:03:27,067 --> 00:03:31,497 CHRISTMAS 1994, I GOT UP EARLY. 33 00:03:31,500 --> 00:03:34,100 I HAD A LOT TO DO. 34 00:03:34,100 --> 00:03:37,470 I STILL HAD SOME GIFTS TO WRAP. 35 00:03:37,467 --> 00:03:41,067 I HADN'T SEEN OR HEARD FROM JAMIE IN TWO DAYS, 36 00:03:41,067 --> 00:03:43,597 BUT I KNEW HE'D BE HOME. 37 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:48,830 SO, I HAD A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS GOING AT ONE TIME, 38 00:03:48,833 --> 00:03:52,873 MAKING EVERY COOKIE POSSIBLY IMAGINABLE. 39 00:03:52,867 --> 00:03:55,297 I WAS GETTING READY TO PUT A HAM IN THE OVEN. 40 00:04:01,167 --> 00:04:07,297 AND STILL... GETTING MORE ANXIOUS BY THE MOMENT 41 00:04:07,300 --> 00:04:13,400 THAT I'M NOT GETTING A CALL KNOWING WHERE JAMIE IS. 42 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,700 AND I WAS JUST REALLY PRAYING THAT HE WAS SAFE. 43 00:04:37,700 --> 00:04:40,730 I HADN'T BEEN OUT OF THE HOUSE ALL DAY. 44 00:04:40,733 --> 00:04:43,673 SO, I SAID I WOULD TAKE STRIPES FOR HIS WALK, 45 00:04:43,667 --> 00:04:45,227 BUT I WAS SO AFRAID TO LEAVE THE HOUSE 46 00:04:45,233 --> 00:04:47,803 BECAUSE I KNEW, AS SOON AS I DID, 47 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,630 THAT THAT CALL WOULD COME, 48 00:04:51,633 --> 00:04:57,173 AND... I WALKED IN THAT HOUSE... 49 00:05:01,067 --> 00:05:03,367 ...AND I TOOK ONE LOOK AT JACK... 50 00:05:07,633 --> 00:05:09,533 ...AND I KNEW THE PHONE HAD RANG. 51 00:05:19,367 --> 00:05:24,967 I KNEW IN MY HEART THAT IT WAS PERTAINING TO JAMIE. 52 00:05:24,967 --> 00:05:28,427 I JUST KNEW IT. 53 00:05:28,433 --> 00:05:33,433 AND I KNEW THAT HE WAS TRYING TO CHOKE BACK THE TEARS. 54 00:05:33,433 --> 00:05:35,203 OH, GOD. 55 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,630 BUT HE MUSTERED UP AN EFFORT 56 00:05:39,633 --> 00:05:45,503 AND TOLD ME THAT THERE HAD BEEN A KILLING. 57 00:05:45,500 --> 00:05:48,430 OH, MY GOD. 58 00:06:07,700 --> 00:06:10,930 USUALLY, PASTOR BOOTH CAME INTO THE CHURCH 59 00:06:10,933 --> 00:06:14,273 BY 7:00 ON CHRISTMAS EVE. 60 00:06:14,267 --> 00:06:17,097 I THINK WHAT DREW PEOPLE TO HIS STYLE OF PREACHING 61 00:06:17,100 --> 00:06:19,930 WAS HOW HE MADE YOU FEEL THAT, 62 00:06:19,933 --> 00:06:22,933 "HEY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES. 63 00:06:22,933 --> 00:06:25,103 PEOPLE CAN BE FORGIVEN." 64 00:06:42,167 --> 00:06:47,797 SERVICE WAS SUPPOSED TO START AT 7:00 THAT NIGHT. 65 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,130 SO, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CLOCK, AND HERE, TIME IS TICKING AWAY, 66 00:06:51,133 --> 00:06:55,433 AND IT'S GETTING TO BE 7:15, AND MY DAUGHTER KEEPS SAYING, 67 00:06:55,433 --> 00:06:57,603 "MOMMY, WE GOT TO GO. SOMETHING IS WRONG. 68 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,230 WE GOT TO GET OUT OF HERE." 69 00:06:59,233 --> 00:07:02,933 IT'S LIKE SHE KNEW SOMETHING WASN'T RIGHT. 70 00:07:02,933 --> 00:07:05,473 I NEVER NOTICED HIM TO BE LATE BEFORE, 71 00:07:05,467 --> 00:07:08,597 ESPECIALLY A CHRISTMAS EVE SERVICE. 72 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,600 AND THEN A GENTLEMAN IN THE CONGREGATION SAID 73 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,630 HE WOULD GO OUT AND CHECK THE TRAILER 74 00:07:13,633 --> 00:07:16,103 AND SEE WHY HE WASN'T COMING IN. 75 00:07:24,633 --> 00:07:27,373 THE MAN COMES RUNNING BACK INTO THE CHURCH. 76 00:07:27,367 --> 00:07:29,097 HE SAID, "PASTOR HAS BEEN SHOT." 77 00:07:36,767 --> 00:07:40,127 SO, I GOT UP, AND I SAID, "I'M A NURSE," 78 00:07:40,133 --> 00:07:43,673 AND I WENT TO HIS TRAILER. 79 00:07:43,667 --> 00:07:47,967 MY HUSBAND OPENED THE DOOR, WENT IN... 80 00:07:55,833 --> 00:07:59,233 ...AND THERE HE WAS. 81 00:07:59,233 --> 00:08:01,073 THERE'S BLOOD EVERYWHERE. 82 00:08:07,500 --> 00:08:10,400 AND I SAID THAT NO, I COULDN'T HELP HIM. 83 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:11,800 IT WAS TOO LATE. 84 00:08:14,867 --> 00:08:17,467 AND I STILL REMEMBER, HE HAD BLACK PANTS ON 85 00:08:17,467 --> 00:08:19,797 AND A PLAID-LOOKING SHIRT ON. 86 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,200 HIS SHIRT WAS AT... 87 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,200 YOU COULD SEE WHERE HE WAS CUT ACROSS THE ABDOMEN. 88 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,970 ALSO, THEY TOOK THE KNIFE. IT WAS A KNIFE. 89 00:08:26,967 --> 00:08:31,397 YOU COULD TELL BECAUSE HE WAS CUT FROM EAR-TO-EAR, 90 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,800 AND THERE WAS A LOT OF BLOOD FROM THAT. 91 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:43,070 AND HE WAS JUST KIND OF LOOKING UP LIKE, "GOD, HELP ME." 92 00:08:43,067 --> 00:08:46,697 AND TO ME, IT FELT LIKE HE WAS PRAYING FOR FORGIVENESS 93 00:08:46,700 --> 00:08:51,130 BECAUSE WHATEVER HAD HAPPENED RIGHT BEFORE THAT MOMENT, 94 00:08:51,133 --> 00:08:54,973 HE KNEW THAT HE HAD BEEN WRONG. 95 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,830 YOU JUST COULDN'T BELIEVE 96 00:09:07,833 --> 00:09:11,503 THAT SOMEONE WOULD KILL HIM LIKE THAT, TO DO THAT TO HIM, 97 00:09:11,500 --> 00:09:14,470 BUT I KNEW THAT IT HAD TO BE SOMEONE THAT KNEW HIM 98 00:09:14,467 --> 00:09:17,227 BECAUSE THEY WERE VERY, VERY ANGRY. 99 00:09:22,333 --> 00:09:24,933 HE ONLY LOVED PEOPLE. THAT'S ALL. 100 00:09:24,933 --> 00:09:26,833 I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. 101 00:09:26,833 --> 00:09:28,203 A HEARTBROKEN COMMUNITY. 102 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,970 FILLED THE CHRISTIAN FAITH TABERNACLE CHURCH. 103 00:09:30,967 --> 00:09:33,797 THEIR CHRISTMAS CELEBRATION TURNED INTO A MEMORIAL SERVICE 104 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,570 FOR REVEREND SAMUEL BOOTH. 105 00:09:35,567 --> 00:09:38,427 WE'RE JUST DEVASTATED BECAUSE HE WAS SUCH A LOVING MAN. 106 00:09:38,433 --> 00:09:41,203 I THINK THE DEVIL WAS JUST OUT STRIKING AT US. 107 00:09:51,100 --> 00:09:54,570 I FOUND OUT BOOTH WAS MURDERED BY GETTING A CALL. 108 00:09:54,567 --> 00:09:57,497 FROM A HOMICIDE DETECTIVE IN BALTIMORE COUNTY. 109 00:09:57,500 --> 00:10:01,400 HE SAID, "WELL, I NEED SOME INFORMATION ON SAMUEL BOOTH." 110 00:10:07,067 --> 00:10:09,397 SO, I SAID TO HIM, "WHAT'S THE DEAL? 111 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,170 IS BOOTH INVOLVED IN A HOMICIDE?" 112 00:10:12,167 --> 00:10:15,097 HE SAID, "HE WAS MURDERED ON CHRISTMAS EVE." 113 00:10:15,100 --> 00:10:16,970 AND I SAID, "WHAT?!" 114 00:10:16,967 --> 00:10:19,227 HE SAID, "YEAH, HE WAS MURDERED ON CHRISTMAS EVE 115 00:10:19,233 --> 00:10:22,373 IN HIS TRAILER BEHIND HIS CHURCH." 116 00:10:22,367 --> 00:10:23,697 UNBELIEVABLE. 117 00:10:23,700 --> 00:10:27,770 SO, I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, "POETIC JUSTICE," 118 00:10:27,767 --> 00:10:32,127 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, NOT WISHING ILL ON ANYBODY, 119 00:10:32,133 --> 00:10:34,833 BUT IF ANYBODY DESERVED IT, IT WAS HIM. 120 00:10:43,500 --> 00:10:47,070 MY PHARMACIST CALLED HIM "THE PREACHER." 121 00:10:47,067 --> 00:10:49,667 AFTER I REALIZED WHAT THESE PEOPLE WERE TELLING ME, 122 00:10:49,667 --> 00:10:51,027 I WAS TOTALLY IN AWE. 123 00:10:51,033 --> 00:10:52,403 I MEAN, I WAS SHOCKED. 124 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,430 HOW CAN YOU LIVE THESE TWO LIVES AND GET AWAY WITH IT? 125 00:10:55,433 --> 00:10:58,733 YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RIGHTEOUS PATH. 126 00:11:13,233 --> 00:11:22,873 WHEN JAMIE WAS BORN, AND WHEN I LOOKED INTO JACK'S FACE, 127 00:11:22,867 --> 00:11:28,067 THIS WAS ABOUT HIS PRIDE-AND-JOY BOY. 128 00:11:28,067 --> 00:11:30,297 THAT'S WHAT HE ALWAYS CALLED JAMIE, 129 00:11:30,300 --> 00:11:32,870 WAS HIS PRIDE-AND-JOY BOY. 130 00:11:42,867 --> 00:11:45,067 TO LOOK AT JAMIE'S FACE, I MEAN, 131 00:11:45,067 --> 00:11:47,767 HE JUST SEEMS LIKE A HAPPY TEENAGER. 132 00:11:50,667 --> 00:11:52,467 AT THE BEACH, I WOULD'VE HAD NO IDEA 133 00:11:52,467 --> 00:11:55,167 THAT MY SON WAS DOING DRUGS. 134 00:11:55,167 --> 00:11:59,727 APPARENTLY, THIS IS AROUND THE AGE THAT HE STARTED USING IT. 135 00:12:03,367 --> 00:12:07,097 IF I COULD TURN BACK THE CLOCKS, OH, MY GOODNESS. 136 00:12:07,100 --> 00:12:09,330 BUT I CAN'T. 137 00:12:17,833 --> 00:12:21,633 REVEREND BOOTH WAS FATALLY STABBED CHRISTMAS EVE. 138 00:12:21,633 --> 00:12:24,073 A PARISHIONER FOUND HIM IN THE DOORWAY OF HIS TRAILER 139 00:12:24,067 --> 00:12:25,697 AFTER BECOMING CONCERNED THAT THE REVEREND 140 00:12:25,700 --> 00:12:27,830 DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR EVENING SERVICES. 141 00:12:27,833 --> 00:12:29,103 WE BELIEVE HE WAS A MAN 142 00:12:29,100 --> 00:12:31,670 WHO REALLY PREACHED THE GOSPEL OF JESUS, 143 00:12:31,667 --> 00:12:34,797 AND SOMETHING LIKE THIS JUST COMES AS A SHOCK. 144 00:12:48,067 --> 00:12:52,697 I HAD A FEW INFORMANTS BACK IN THE EARLY '90s... 145 00:12:52,700 --> 00:12:55,070 '91, '92... THAT WERE TELLING ME, 146 00:12:55,067 --> 00:12:59,697 "HEY, THERE'S THIS PREACHER SELLING COCAINE." 147 00:12:59,700 --> 00:13:01,500 THE FIRST TIME I HEARD THAT, I THOUGHT, 148 00:13:01,500 --> 00:13:03,500 "WOW. MAYBE THIS GUY IS BLOWING SMOKE," 149 00:13:03,500 --> 00:13:05,070 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN... THE INFORMANT... 150 00:13:05,067 --> 00:13:08,527 BECAUSE THEY DO THAT ALL THE TIME. 151 00:13:08,533 --> 00:13:10,733 AFTER HEARING IT AND HEARING IT AND HEARING IT 152 00:13:10,733 --> 00:13:13,773 TWO OR THREE TIMES, THEN IT WASN'T A BUNCH OF BULL. 153 00:13:17,833 --> 00:13:20,433 WE DID A BACKGROUND ON BOOTH. 154 00:13:20,433 --> 00:13:23,073 ON PAPER, HE WAS TOTALLY CLEAN... 155 00:13:23,067 --> 00:13:26,527 NOT EVEN A TRAFFIC VIOLATION. 156 00:13:26,533 --> 00:13:30,403 I SET UP SURVEILLANCE FOR A COUPLE WEEKS. 157 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,900 I DID SURVEILLANCE SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS, TOO. 158 00:13:33,900 --> 00:13:35,270 MAYBE THE GUY'S NOT DEALING DRUGS. 159 00:13:35,267 --> 00:13:36,567 MAYBE IT'S JUST THE WORD ON THE STREET. 160 00:13:36,567 --> 00:13:38,627 MAYBE IT'S BALONEY. 161 00:13:38,633 --> 00:13:41,203 BUT IF HE IS, I WANT HIM. 162 00:13:44,633 --> 00:13:46,173 BOOTH WAS SO CLOSED. 163 00:13:46,167 --> 00:13:48,967 IF HE DIDN'T KNOW YOU, HE WOULDN'T DEAL WITH YOU. 164 00:13:48,967 --> 00:13:50,927 SO, I FINALLY FOUND SOMEBODY 165 00:13:50,933 --> 00:13:54,673 THAT COULD BUY FROM HIM DIRECTLY. 166 00:13:54,667 --> 00:13:59,067 THAT'S HOW I GOT HIM, AND THAT'S ENOUGH 167 00:13:59,067 --> 00:14:01,967 TO GET PROBABLE CAUSE TO GET A SEARCH WARRANT. 168 00:14:10,167 --> 00:14:11,567 WHEN I HAD FINALLY ENTERED THE HOUSE 169 00:14:11,567 --> 00:14:15,767 AFTER THE SWAT TEAM BANGED THE DOOR IN, 170 00:14:15,767 --> 00:14:18,627 EVERYTHING THAT WAS FOUND THAT WAS ILLEGAL 171 00:14:18,633 --> 00:14:22,803 WAS IN BOOTH'S BEDROOM. 172 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,700 AND I KNEW BOOTH WAS USING THIS PRODUCT 173 00:14:24,700 --> 00:14:29,270 BECAUSE HE HAD CRACK PIPES, HE HAD A WATER BONG. 174 00:14:29,267 --> 00:14:31,797 HE HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARAPHERNALIA... 175 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,900 TOO MUCH FOR NOT USING YOURSELF. 176 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:39,200 BUT WE DIDN'T FIND A LARGE AMOUNT OF DOPE. 177 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,870 SO, EVIDENTLY, HE WAS DOWN AT THE TIME WE HIT HIM. 178 00:14:44,167 --> 00:14:46,467 HE'S OUT OF DOPE, AND HE HASN'T RE-UPPED YET. 179 00:14:46,467 --> 00:14:49,427 I JUST CAUGHT HIM IN BETWEEN. 180 00:14:49,433 --> 00:14:51,103 I MEAN, IT'S A BIG DOWNER. 181 00:14:51,100 --> 00:14:55,800 I MEAN, IT'S A REAL BIG DOWNER, 182 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,900 BUT I STILL HAD ENOUGH TO CHARGE HIM, 183 00:14:57,900 --> 00:14:59,570 SO I CHARGED HIM. 184 00:15:05,667 --> 00:15:09,497 WHEN I INTERVIEWED HIM AFTER I ARRESTED HIM, 185 00:15:09,500 --> 00:15:15,070 HE WAS A VERY SOFT-SPOKEN MAN, AND HE WAS VERY POLITE. 186 00:15:15,067 --> 00:15:18,327 AS I SAID, ANYTHING I CAN HELP YOU OUT WITH. 187 00:15:18,333 --> 00:15:20,403 HE TRIED TO TALK HIS WAY OUT OF IT. 188 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,570 "OH, IT'S NOT MY DOPE. IT'S NOT MY PARAPHERNALIA." 189 00:15:23,567 --> 00:15:25,067 IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE HOUSE. 190 00:15:25,067 --> 00:15:30,697 I TOOK IT AWAY FROM THEM," WHICH WE KNOW IS NOT TRUE 191 00:15:30,700 --> 00:15:35,070 BECAUSE MY INFORMANT MADE TWO BUYS OFF HIM. 192 00:15:35,067 --> 00:15:37,667 BUT IF I WERE TO MEET HIM ON THE STREET, 193 00:15:37,667 --> 00:15:39,927 I WOULD THINK HE'S THE GREATEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD. 194 00:15:39,933 --> 00:15:44,973 I MEAN, THIS GUY IS VERY NICE, YOU KNOW, GODLY PERSON. 195 00:16:16,833 --> 00:16:21,133 I FELT LIKE HE WAS ALWAYS WORKING WITH THE CONGREGATION, 196 00:16:21,133 --> 00:16:23,233 AND I LOOKED UP TO HIM. 197 00:16:28,667 --> 00:16:32,067 PASTOR BOOTH OFFICIATED MY WEDDING. 198 00:16:32,067 --> 00:16:36,367 I KNEW THAT HE WOULD SAY THE THINGS THAT I FELT AT THE TIME 199 00:16:36,367 --> 00:16:38,327 AND MADE IT VERY SPECIAL. 200 00:16:40,567 --> 00:16:43,427 HE HAD VERY DARK CIRCLES UNDERNEATH OF HIS EYES. 201 00:16:43,433 --> 00:16:44,873 HE LOOKED DRAWN. 202 00:16:44,867 --> 00:16:50,067 YOU KNOW, HE LOOKED LIKE HE WAS IN PAIN OR UNCOMFORTABLE. 203 00:16:50,067 --> 00:16:53,297 HE MAY HAVE BEEN UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SOME KIND OF DRUG 204 00:16:53,300 --> 00:16:56,070 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT THE TIME. 205 00:16:56,067 --> 00:16:57,567 I DID NOT PICK THAT UP. 206 00:16:57,567 --> 00:16:59,467 MAYBE I DIDN'T WANT TO. 207 00:17:06,333 --> 00:17:10,273 NEVER GOT A BAD FEELING FROM HIM UNTIL... 208 00:17:10,267 --> 00:17:13,527 NOT A BAD FEELING BUT A STRANGE FEELING 209 00:17:13,533 --> 00:17:17,573 WHEN HE PREACHED THAT SERMON ABOUT BACKSLIDING. 210 00:17:17,567 --> 00:17:19,967 THERE MAY BE TIMES IN YOUR LIFE. 211 00:17:19,967 --> 00:17:22,867 YOU FIND YOURSELF BACKSLIDING... 212 00:17:22,867 --> 00:17:26,127 AND THEN SOMETHING JUST CLICKED 213 00:17:26,133 --> 00:17:30,073 THAT THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG HERE. 214 00:17:30,067 --> 00:17:33,627 ...AND THE DEVIL BE LURKING RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. 215 00:17:33,633 --> 00:17:37,433 HE HAD TALKED ABOUT HOW WHEN YOU BACKSLIDE, 216 00:17:37,433 --> 00:17:39,073 THE DEVIL GETS AHOLD OF YOU, 217 00:17:39,067 --> 00:17:44,097 AND HE KEEPS COMING AT YOU AND MAKING YOU DO THINGS 218 00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:46,400 THAT GOD WOULDN'T WANT YOU TO BE DOING. 219 00:17:58,467 --> 00:18:01,597 THE FIRST TIME THAT I EVER HEARD THE NAME SAM BOOTH. 220 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,330 WAS WHEN THE BOYS WERE UP IN THEIR TEENS, 221 00:18:05,333 --> 00:18:09,073 WE USED TO DROP OUR BOYS OFF AT MR. BOOTH'S HOUSE, 222 00:18:09,067 --> 00:18:12,267 KNOWING HE WAS A MINISTER, THINKING THAT, "THIS IS GREAT. 223 00:18:12,267 --> 00:18:15,397 THE BOYS ARE GOING TO A TEEN BIBLE STUDY." 224 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,570 AND I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY WEEKS AFTER THAT 225 00:18:18,567 --> 00:18:21,427 WHEN JAMIE'S BEHAVIOR STARTED CHANGING. 226 00:18:26,133 --> 00:18:30,333 HE WAS DISRESPECTFUL TO HIS FATHER ONE DAY. 227 00:18:30,333 --> 00:18:37,073 HE WENT TO HIT HIS FATHER... 228 00:18:37,067 --> 00:18:39,297 AND THAT REALLY HURT DEEP. 229 00:18:41,500 --> 00:18:47,300 SO, I THOUGHT, "THAT'S NOT JAMIE. WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?" 230 00:18:47,300 --> 00:18:53,830 I CERTAINLY KNEW THAT NARCOTICS AND DRUGS CAUSED MOOD SWINGS, 231 00:18:53,833 --> 00:18:57,133 AND THEN, ALL OF A SUDDEN, ONE DAY, YOU KNOW, 232 00:18:57,133 --> 00:18:59,073 YOU FACE IT HEAD-ON THAT, 233 00:18:59,067 --> 00:19:01,827 "OH, MY GOSH. THIS IS HAPPENING TO MY CHILDREN." 234 00:19:13,933 --> 00:19:17,673 WE FOUND HIM ONE TIME IN A MOTEL. 235 00:19:17,667 --> 00:19:21,097 JAMIE? JAMIE? 236 00:19:21,100 --> 00:19:23,870 HE WAS LAYING IN THE BED. 237 00:19:23,867 --> 00:19:30,827 HE'D BLACKED OUT, AND IT WAS REALLY HEART-WRENCHING 238 00:19:30,833 --> 00:19:36,373 TO THINK THAT HE WOULD GIVE UP WHAT HE HAD AT HOME 239 00:19:36,367 --> 00:19:40,067 THAT WE HAD WORKED SO HARD TO PROVIDE. 240 00:19:40,067 --> 00:19:44,527 AND IF I HADN'T FOUND HIM, HE COULD'VE DIED. 241 00:19:53,300 --> 00:19:57,900 ON THAT CHRISTMAS MORNING, HE WAS CLEAN FROM DRUGS 242 00:19:57,900 --> 00:20:00,500 FOR 16 MONTHS. 243 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:02,270 I COULD SLEEP AGAIN. 244 00:20:02,267 --> 00:20:06,767 I THOUGHT I KNEW MY CHILD AGAIN. 245 00:20:06,767 --> 00:20:10,667 HE WAS PROBABLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE HOMEMADE COOKIES 246 00:20:10,667 --> 00:20:13,927 AND THE BAKED HAM AND OPENING HIS GIFTS, 247 00:20:13,933 --> 00:20:17,273 WHICH WERE MOSTLY NICE SCHOOL CLOTHES TO START COLLEGE. 248 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,670 SO LITTLE DID I KNOW. 249 00:20:33,633 --> 00:20:37,233 MR. WOOD, WHAT HAPPENED OUT THERE? 250 00:20:37,233 --> 00:20:39,433 YOU GOT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY? 251 00:20:44,667 --> 00:20:48,467 THE NEXT TIME I HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT SAM BOOTH. 252 00:20:48,467 --> 00:20:54,467 WAS THAT MY SON WAS CHARGED WITH HIS MURDER. 253 00:21:09,067 --> 00:21:12,097 WHEN I DECIDED TO GET THE SEARCH WARRANT ON BOOTH, 254 00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:14,970 THERE WAS NOTHING OUT OF THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY, 255 00:21:14,967 --> 00:21:17,667 AS FAR AS I WAS CONCERNED. 256 00:21:17,667 --> 00:21:21,367 AFTER FIGURING OUT THAT THIS GUY WAS ACTUALLY SELLING DRUGS, 257 00:21:21,367 --> 00:21:25,297 WHO WAS A PASTOR, NOTHING AFTER THAT SURPRISED ME. 258 00:21:25,300 --> 00:21:26,870 YOU KNOW, I COULD'VE WENT IN THERE 259 00:21:26,867 --> 00:21:30,397 AND FOUND A DEAD BODY IN HIS ROOM. 260 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,070 SO, I WAS SURPRISED WHEN I FOUND THE GAY MAGAZINES, 261 00:21:34,067 --> 00:21:37,897 BUT I WASN'T OVERLY SURPRISED. 262 00:21:37,900 --> 00:21:40,070 HE WAS A CLOSETED GAY MAN. 263 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:07,070 SO, WHAT I DID WITH MR. BOOTH IS I TURNED HIM OVER TO D.E.A., 264 00:22:07,067 --> 00:22:10,197 AND HE WAS SUPPOSED TO WORK AS AN INFORMANT FOR D.E.A. 265 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,330 THAT'S WHY THE STATE'S ATTORNEY DROPPED HIS CHARGE. 266 00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:17,603 IT DISAPPOINTED ME BECAUSE I THINK 267 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,530 THAT HE SHOULD'VE BEEN MADE AN EXAMPLE OF. 268 00:22:21,533 --> 00:22:25,203 I BELIEVE HE WOULD'VE BEEN CONVICTED, 269 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,930 BUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE STATE'S ATTORNEY 270 00:22:27,933 --> 00:22:30,173 AND THE CHARGES BEING DROPPED, 271 00:22:30,167 --> 00:22:33,967 HE CAN GO BACK TO BEING MR. PREACHER 272 00:22:33,967 --> 00:22:37,927 BECAUSE HE CAN SAY TO HIS CONGREGATION, 273 00:22:37,933 --> 00:22:42,503 "HEY. LOOK. IT WAS ALL, YOU KNOW, SMOKE. 274 00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:45,200 THERE'S NO FIRE HERE. IT'S JUST SMOKE. 275 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,970 YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG. 276 00:22:46,967 --> 00:22:49,497 SEE? THEY DROPPED THE CHARGES." 277 00:22:49,500 --> 00:22:52,130 SO, IT GAVE HIM A PERFECT MASK. 278 00:23:04,767 --> 00:23:08,467 MR. WOOD, WHAT HAPPENED OUT THERE? 279 00:23:08,467 --> 00:23:10,467 YOU GOT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY? 280 00:23:18,333 --> 00:23:22,603 THE NIGHT THAT THIS MURDER TOOK PLACE, 281 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:27,270 OUR YOUNGEST SON, JOEY, SAT DOWN WITH A FRIEND OF HIS 282 00:23:27,267 --> 00:23:31,197 AND TOLD US A GREAT DEAL ABOUT MR. SAM BOOTH. 283 00:23:33,967 --> 00:23:40,067 THEY BOTH KNEW WHAT HE HAD DONE IN THE PAST, 284 00:23:40,067 --> 00:23:43,767 WHICH WAS MOLEST BOYS AND THEN TURN AROUND 285 00:23:43,767 --> 00:23:46,727 AND GIVE THEM DRUGS FOR THEIR SEXUAL FAVORS. 286 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,070 IT WAS JUST HARD TO FATHOM IT ALL. 287 00:23:52,067 --> 00:23:54,067 IT JUST REALLY WAS. 288 00:23:56,933 --> 00:24:00,473 SOMETIMES, I EVEN WONDERED, "HOW COULD GOD ALLOW THIS?" 289 00:24:00,467 --> 00:24:02,727 OH, GOD. 290 00:24:13,067 --> 00:24:18,067 I THINK IT WAS ABOUT THREE WEEKS BEFORE WE GOT TO SEE JAMIE 291 00:24:18,067 --> 00:24:20,627 AT THE TOWSON DETENTION CENTER. 292 00:24:24,300 --> 00:24:27,300 I COULDN'T WAIT TO GET IN THERE AND THROW MY ARMS AROUND HIM. 293 00:24:33,767 --> 00:24:40,527 BECAUSE I COULD ONLY IMAGINE HOW HE MUST BE FEELING. 294 00:24:40,533 --> 00:24:46,073 I WOULD SAY WE JUST REALLY EMBRACED EACH OTHER. 295 00:24:46,067 --> 00:24:48,467 IT WAS A HUG TO SAY WE ARE FAMILY. 296 00:24:53,167 --> 00:24:56,427 THE VERY FIRST THING THAT JAMIE EVER SAID TO US WAS, 297 00:24:56,433 --> 00:24:59,733 "I NEVER HAD INTENTION TO KILL MR. BOOTH. 298 00:24:59,733 --> 00:25:03,073 I NEVER HAD AN INTENTION TO HAVE A FIGHT WITH HIM. 299 00:25:03,067 --> 00:25:07,067 I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY I LEFT THE PIZZA SHOP 300 00:25:07,067 --> 00:25:13,127 THAT DAY WITH HIM TO GO BUY DRUGS." 301 00:25:13,133 --> 00:25:16,533 I ASKED MY SON JAMIE IF MR. BOOTH 302 00:25:16,533 --> 00:25:19,203 HAD EVER SEXUALLY MOLESTED HIM. 303 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,330 I ASKED HIM THAT PINPOINT-OUT, AND HE SAID NO. 304 00:25:24,333 --> 00:25:26,733 AND THEN I LOOKED HIM RIGHT IN THE EYE, 305 00:25:26,733 --> 00:25:30,203 AND I SAID, "DID HE EVER TOUCH YOUR BROTHER, JOEY?" 306 00:25:32,333 --> 00:25:34,833 AND HE DIDN'T ANSWER ME. 307 00:25:42,067 --> 00:25:46,967 WE LEARNED A GREAT DEAL AT THAT POINT 308 00:25:46,967 --> 00:25:49,497 BECAUSE HE WANTED US TO HEAR THINGS FROM 309 00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:52,370 BEFORE WE HEARD IT IN COURT, 310 00:25:52,367 --> 00:25:56,497 AND THAT'S THE KIND OF RESPECT THAT OUR SON ALWAYS HAD FOR US. 311 00:27:36,133 --> 00:27:39,573 SO, APPARENTLY, MR. BOOTH WAS GOING TO TRY TO RAPE HIM. 312 00:27:39,567 --> 00:27:42,467 OR WHATEVER. I DON'T KNOW. 313 00:27:42,467 --> 00:27:45,167 IT WAS JUST SICKENING. 314 00:27:45,167 --> 00:27:48,797 IT SEEMED LIKE EVERY NEW PIECE OF INFORMATION I GOT 315 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,870 WAS JUST A HEAVIER BURDEN. 316 00:27:52,867 --> 00:27:55,667 IT'S JUST LIKE, "WHAT ELSE DON'T I KNOW?" 317 00:28:02,533 --> 00:28:06,473 THE TRIAL WAS FOUR DAYS LONG. 318 00:28:06,467 --> 00:28:08,527 I JUST FELT LIKE IT WAS ALL OVER, 319 00:28:08,533 --> 00:28:12,073 THAT WE WOULD JUST PROBABLY NEVER HAVE OUR SON HOME AGAIN. 320 00:28:28,967 --> 00:28:31,727 OKAY, WE CAN BEGIN. 321 00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:05,600 THAT LAST PART WAS ROUGH, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THERE 322 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:10,370 WHERE HE IS NOT, UM... 323 00:29:10,367 --> 00:29:13,727 HE LOOKS LIKE HE'S ASHAMED OF WHAT THEY WERE SAYING, 324 00:29:13,733 --> 00:29:15,803 HIS SON, WITH HIS SON. 325 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,100 HE WAS PLAYING WITH THE THING, 326 00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:19,930 AND HE COULDN'T EVEN LOOK UP LIKE, 327 00:29:19,933 --> 00:29:22,903 "DON'T DRAW ATTENTION TO ME 328 00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:25,730 BECAUSE I'M NOT THAT GOOD FATHER." 329 00:29:30,467 --> 00:29:33,367 HE BECAME A PASTOR, TOO. 330 00:29:33,367 --> 00:29:38,097 HE'S THE YOUNG MAN THAT I SPOKE TO THE DAY OF THE FUNERAL. 331 00:29:47,167 --> 00:29:49,767 THE FUNERAL... THAT WAS PRETTY ROUGH. 332 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,100 IT WAS LIKE YOU DIDN'T WANT TO BE IN THAT BUILDING. 333 00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:59,230 REALLY, YOU DIDN'T WANT TO BE THERE BECAUSE OF THE MURDER, 334 00:29:59,233 --> 00:30:01,003 THAT WAS PART OF IT, AND YOU KIND OF... 335 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,670 WHEN I WALKED THROUGH THE DOOR, IT WOULD COME BACK. 336 00:30:05,833 --> 00:30:10,803 THE FIRST SONG THEY SUNG WAS "WASHED IN THE BLOOD." 337 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,270 CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT HERE, 338 00:30:14,267 --> 00:30:17,867 THE MAN WAS LAYING IN ALL THIS BLOOD, 339 00:30:17,867 --> 00:30:20,427 AND THAT'S THE FIRST SONG THEY SING? 340 00:30:20,433 --> 00:30:22,233 ARE YOU NUTS?! 341 00:30:24,967 --> 00:30:29,127 WELL, I JUST, PHEW, LOST IT. 342 00:30:29,133 --> 00:30:33,103 THAT, I THINK, AFFECTED ME MORE THAN ACTUALLY SEEING HIM THERE, 343 00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:35,100 AFTER THEY STARTED SINGING THAT SONG. 344 00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:36,830 WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? 345 00:30:39,333 --> 00:30:41,033 I THINK THAT'S WHEN I DECIDED 346 00:30:41,033 --> 00:30:43,103 I'M NOT GOING BACK TO THAT CHURCH. 347 00:30:46,533 --> 00:30:50,273 BUT I DISTINCTLY REMEMBER WALKING UP TO HIS SON AND SAID, 348 00:30:50,267 --> 00:30:52,497 "I NEED TO TELL YOU THIS." 349 00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:56,030 I SAID THAT I BELIEVED AT THE TIME THAT HE DIED, 350 00:30:56,033 --> 00:30:57,733 THAT HE ASKED FOR FORGIVENESS 351 00:30:57,733 --> 00:31:00,073 AND THAT I BELIEVE THAT HE WAS IN HEAVEN. 352 00:31:00,067 --> 00:31:05,297 I DON'T KNOW WHY I WAS POSSESSED TO SAY THAT TO HIM, 353 00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:08,330 BUT I COULDN'T LEAVE THERE WITHOUT TELLING HIM THAT. 354 00:31:22,067 --> 00:31:28,127 THE DETECTIVES WERE PRETTY REASSURING TO ME AS A MOTHER. 355 00:31:28,133 --> 00:31:31,503 THEY DID NOT SEE IT AS PREMEDITATED MURDER, 356 00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:34,700 SO THEREFORE, THEY FELT THAT IT WOULD BE SECOND-DEGREE. 357 00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:38,730 IT COULD EVEN POSSIBLY BE A MANSLAUGHTER. 358 00:31:38,733 --> 00:31:42,173 THEY DIDN'T THINK JAMIE WOULD GET MORE THAN 10 YEARS IF THAT. 359 00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:51,170 WHEN I FIRST HEARD THAT JAMIE WAS GOING TO BE TRIED 360 00:31:51,167 --> 00:31:55,567 FOR FIRST-DEGREE MURDER... 361 00:31:55,567 --> 00:31:58,497 I JUST FELT LIKE IT WAS ALL OVER. 362 00:32:02,067 --> 00:32:04,397 ORDER! 363 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,270 MR. BOOTH WAS PAINTED LIKE THIS POOR CREATURE 364 00:32:07,267 --> 00:32:12,067 WHO'D BEEN KILLED BY THIS DRUG-ADDICT KID IN BEL AIR. 365 00:32:12,067 --> 00:32:15,827 WHEN IT GOT INTO ABOUT THE HOMOSEXUALITY OF MR. BOOTH 366 00:32:15,833 --> 00:32:21,133 AND THE MOLESTING, I GOT A RAY OF HOPE, 367 00:32:21,133 --> 00:32:25,273 THINKING THAT THESE ADULTS SITTING IN THIS JURY 368 00:32:25,267 --> 00:32:30,667 ARE GOING TO KNOW THAT THERE WERE CIRCUMSTANCES 369 00:32:30,667 --> 00:32:36,697 THAT DID NOT MAKE THIS PREMEDITATED MURDER, 370 00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:39,370 BUT OF COURSE, NO EVIDENCE WAS ALLOWED IN COURT 371 00:32:39,367 --> 00:32:43,397 BECAUSE THE JUDGE SAID THAT MR. BOOTH WASN'T ON TRIAL. 372 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,070 MR. BOOTH IS THE VICTIM IN THIS CASE. 373 00:32:53,300 --> 00:32:55,400 EVERYTHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN COURT, 374 00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,900 IF OUR LAWYER BROUGHT ANYTHING UP, WAS ALL IRRELEVANT. 375 00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:03,070 I REMEMBER LEANING OVER, SAYING TO JACK, 376 00:33:03,067 --> 00:33:05,227 "IF I HEAR THE WORD IRRELEVANT ONE MORE TIME, 377 00:33:05,233 --> 00:33:07,333 I THINK I'M GOING TO THROW UP." 378 00:33:07,333 --> 00:33:10,073 I REMEMBER SAYING THAT IN THE TRIAL, 379 00:33:10,067 --> 00:33:15,067 AND THE JUDGE KEPT SAYING MR. BOOTH IS NOT ON TRIAL HERE. 380 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,900 THE JURY FINDS THE DEFENDANT GUILTY. 381 00:33:40,933 --> 00:33:44,103 WHEN THEY TOLD US THAT JAMIE WAS SENTENCED. 382 00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:47,230 WITH LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE, 383 00:33:47,233 --> 00:33:53,903 I WENT BACK AND THOUGHT ABOUT HOW MARY MUST HAVE FELT 384 00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:56,700 WHEN THEY NAILED HER SON TO THE CROSS. 385 00:34:00,833 --> 00:34:04,203 AND WHEN THE JUDGE ASKED IF ANYBODY HAD ANYTHING 386 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:10,100 THAT THEY WANTED TO SAY, I KNEW. 387 00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:13,570 THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I HAD LEFT FROM MY HEART 388 00:34:13,567 --> 00:34:17,267 TO SHARE WITH THE JURORS AND WITH THE JUDGE. 389 00:34:17,267 --> 00:34:21,527 AND I REALLY DIDN'T CARE WHAT THE LAWYER THOUGHT ABOUT IT. 390 00:34:21,533 --> 00:34:23,373 I SAID, "I FEEL LIKE 391 00:34:23,367 --> 00:34:28,097 YOU'RE TAKING MY LAMB TO THE SLAUGHTER." 392 00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:30,830 AND THAT'S HOW I FELT. 393 00:34:41,333 --> 00:34:45,703 I DON'T THINK IT WAS A FAIR TRIAL. 394 00:34:45,700 --> 00:34:48,200 YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT WASN'T FAIR THAT MR. BOOTH DIED, EITHER, 395 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:53,070 BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT HE BROUGHT HIS DEATH ON, 396 00:34:53,067 --> 00:34:58,367 AND TO HIS FAMILY, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY SORRY HE'S GONE, 397 00:34:58,367 --> 00:35:03,167 BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS KILLED IN OUR LIVES THAT DAY... 398 00:35:03,167 --> 00:35:05,227 MY SON'S FUTURE. 399 00:35:14,067 --> 00:35:16,067 YEAH. 400 00:35:40,467 --> 00:35:44,897 ONCE IN A WHILE, YOU LAY YOUR HEAD DOWN AT NIGHT, 401 00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:52,070 AND YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT COULD'VE BEEN, 402 00:35:52,067 --> 00:35:56,067 AND DARKNESS STARTS COMING IN. 403 00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:03,470 EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, I CATCH MYSELF THINKING ABOUT 404 00:36:03,467 --> 00:36:07,797 WHAT WOULD JAMIE OR JOEY'S CHILDREN LOOK LIKE. 405 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,070 UMM... 406 00:36:10,067 --> 00:36:13,967 AND THEN IT'S LIKE, "DON'T EVEN GO THERE, JOYCE, 407 00:36:13,967 --> 00:36:16,067 BECAUSE IT'S TOO PAINFUL." 408 00:36:35,067 --> 00:36:38,267 I'M THE TYPE OF GUY, I LIKE TO FINISH. 409 00:36:38,267 --> 00:36:40,597 WITH BOOTH, I DIDN'T FINISH. 410 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,270 HE DIDN'T GET CONVICTED, AND THAT'S ALWAYS BUGGED ME. 411 00:36:44,267 --> 00:36:48,067 THAT'S HOW I HAVE SO MUCH MEMORY ON THE CASE 412 00:36:48,067 --> 00:36:50,627 BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS ATE AT ME. 413 00:36:53,533 --> 00:36:59,803 I NEVER RAN ACROSS A CASE LIKE THIS WITH THAT MUCH DECEIT. 414 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:04,470 IT WAS A ONCE-IN-A-LIFETIME THING, I THINK. 415 00:37:04,467 --> 00:37:08,667 I WOULD HOPE, ANYWAYS. 416 00:37:08,667 --> 00:37:12,627 I THINK EVERY DRUG DEALER IS KILLING PEOPLE 417 00:37:12,633 --> 00:37:14,773 BY DEALING DRUGS TO THEM. 418 00:37:14,767 --> 00:37:17,627 SOONER OR LATER, THAT PERSON IS GOING TO TAKE A HOT SHOT. 419 00:37:17,633 --> 00:37:19,103 IT'S GOING TO KILL THEM. 420 00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:20,970 SO, IT'S MURDER. 421 00:37:20,967 --> 00:37:22,967 IT'S JUST SLOW MURDER. 422 00:37:25,067 --> 00:37:26,367 IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN BAD IF HE WAS 423 00:37:26,367 --> 00:37:30,567 AN AUTO MECHANIC AND A DOPE DEALER, 424 00:37:30,567 --> 00:37:36,567 BUT HIM BEING A PREACHER IS A LOT WORSE. 425 00:37:36,567 --> 00:37:38,967 I KNOW IF I WAS IN HIS CONGREGATION, 426 00:37:38,967 --> 00:37:41,367 THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY HEARTBREAKING. 427 00:37:41,367 --> 00:37:46,397 I MEAN, THAT PROBABLY WOULD'VE DONE IT FOR ME, 428 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,270 FOR A WHILE, WITH RELIGION. 429 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,200 IT DIDN'T MAKE ME LOSE MY FAITH IN GOD, 430 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:11,770 BUT IT MADE ME LOSE MY FAITH IN PEOPLE AND IN THE CHURCH ITSELF, 431 00:38:11,767 --> 00:38:15,467 THE ORGANIZATION OF THE CHURCH. 432 00:38:15,467 --> 00:38:17,427 HE PROBABLY COULD NOT BE THE PASTOR 433 00:38:17,433 --> 00:38:19,403 AND BE A GAY MAN AT THE SAME TIME 434 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,200 BECAUSE THEY BASICALLY FORCED HIM TO LIVE A SECRET LIFE 435 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,900 BECAUSE OF THEIR BELIEFS, BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, 436 00:38:26,900 --> 00:38:28,670 THEIR JUDGMENT OF OTHER PEOPLE. 437 00:38:28,667 --> 00:38:30,797 THAT'S WHAT I THINK ABOUT. 438 00:38:33,967 --> 00:38:36,197 THE PART THAT REALLY BUGS ME IS THIS... 439 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:41,470 WAS HE REALLY USING THESE YOUNG BOYS FOR SEX? 440 00:38:41,467 --> 00:38:45,067 THAT JUST MAKES ME FEEL SICK ABOUT THAT. 441 00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:51,200 IT'S POSSIBLE THAT HE COULD PUT HIMSELF IN HARM'S WAY 442 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,070 BECAUSE HE COULDN'T LIVE WITH HIMSELF ANYMORE. 443 00:38:54,067 --> 00:38:58,927 WHAT OTHER WAY IS HE GOING TO BE FREE BUT BE DEAD? 444 00:38:58,933 --> 00:39:03,973 AND HE NEEDED TO BE GONE BECAUSE GOD WAS CALLING HIM... 445 00:39:03,967 --> 00:39:05,397 "YOU CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE. 446 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,600 YOU'RE HARMING OTHERS, AND YOU'RE HARMING YOURSELF. 447 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,700 I'M TAKING YOU HOME." 448 00:39:09,700 --> 00:39:12,570 AND THAT'S HIS WAY OF ENDING THE STORY, 449 00:39:12,567 --> 00:39:14,167 AND THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE, 450 00:39:14,167 --> 00:39:16,897 TO THIS POINT, THAT HE WAS FORGIVEN. 451 00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:20,900 HE'S IN PEACE, BUT THIS YOUNG MAN ISN'T. 452 00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:24,130 HE'S LIVING A PURE HELL IN THERE. 453 00:39:24,133 --> 00:39:27,373 THAT'S THE SAD TRAGEDY OF THE WHOLE THING. 454 00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:39,200 NO, I DID NOT. 455 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,230 HMM. WOW. 456 00:40:48,433 --> 00:40:50,933 HEY, JAMIE. HOW ARE YOU DOING, HONEY? 457 00:40:54,167 --> 00:41:00,067 WELL, THAT'S GOOD. SO, WHAT'D YOU DO TODAY? 458 00:41:00,067 --> 00:41:03,797 WE'RE AS CLOSE TODAY AS WHEN HIS FATHER WOULD BE 459 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,430 IN THE PULPIT PREACHING, 460 00:41:05,433 --> 00:41:08,703 AND HE WOULD LAY HIS HEAD OVER MY LAP, 461 00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:12,170 AND HE HAD THE THICKEST DARK HAIR, 462 00:41:12,167 --> 00:41:14,967 AND I WOULD JUST KIND OF STROKE IT, 463 00:41:14,967 --> 00:41:17,497 AND HE WOULD GO TO SLEEP. 464 00:41:19,700 --> 00:41:22,330 YOU WANT A BOWL OF ICE CREAM? 465 00:41:22,333 --> 00:41:24,703 NOW, WHERE ARE YOU GONNA GET A BOWL OF ICE CREAM? 466 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,070 PRAY IT DOWN FROM HEAVEN OR SOMETHING? 467 00:41:31,067 --> 00:41:32,467 MM. 468 00:41:32,467 --> 00:41:38,327 SOMETIMES, I FEEL LIKE HE'S ALL I HAVE LEFT, 469 00:41:38,333 --> 00:41:41,873 BUT IT TOOK ME A LOT OF YEARS, A LOT OF YEARS, 470 00:41:41,867 --> 00:41:48,097 A LOT OF PAINFUL YEARS TO DISCOVER 471 00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:49,970 THAT THERE IS JOY IN THE MORNING, 472 00:41:49,967 --> 00:41:54,897 IN SPITE OF ANYTHING WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN THROUGH. 473 00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:55,600 YEAH. 474 00:41:58,067 --> 00:41:59,467 LOVE YOU TOO, HONEY. NIGHT-NIGHT. 475 00:42:01,333 --> 00:42:02,573 BYE-BYE.