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♪♪

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"TO MY FAMILY."

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IF I SHOULD EVER LEAVE
THIS WORLD BEFORE YOU DO,

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HERE'S WHAT I ASK OF YOU.

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BURY ME IN PINK.

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"PLEASE DO NOT BE SAD FOREVER
BECAUSE I AM HAPPY NOW."

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ME AND SANDY WERE LIKE,
OF THE SAME SOUL.

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IT'S LIKE A...

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[voice breaking] INSEPARABLE.

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AND THAT'S WHY WHEN SHE DIED,
MY SOUL DIED.

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[ SNIFFLES ]

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♪♪

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Hitch:
"DEAR MRS. VIRGINIA THOMAS."

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I'll START THIS LETTER TO YOU BY SAYING,

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I AM NOT SORRY FOR WHAT
I DID TO YOUR DAUGHTER.

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SHE DESERVED EVERYTHING SHE GOT.

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"I STOLE HER FUTURE
AND I RAPED HER."

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THAT'S WHEN MY THOUGHTS
SHIFTED FROM THIS

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IS A GUY WHO COMMITTED
AN EVIL ACT

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TO THIS IS AN EVIL MAN.

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BRIAN DID A JOURNAL AND I KNOW
YOU HAVEN'T READ IT, OKAY.

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BUT I THINK IT WOULD REALLY HELP

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IF YOU WOULD READ THIS ONE,
ONE PAGE.

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"TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO,
I COMMITTED A CRIME, COWARD ACT,

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THAT I'M TOTALLY ASHAMED OF.

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I HOPE YOU COULD ONE DAY
FIND PEACE IN FORGIVING ME

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FOR MY SHAMEFUL BEHAVIOR."

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HE SAID HE WAS SORRY.

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I THINK WE ALL ARE SORRY.

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Captions by VITAC...
www.vitac.com

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CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY
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Thomas: THE DAY WAS BEAUTIFUL.

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IT WAS A FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 2ND.

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I GUESS I GOT UP AROUND,
I DON'T KNOW, 8:30, 9:00.

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I WAS GOING OUT TO CLEAN
MY HALLWAYS BECAUSE I DID THAT

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A COUPLE DAYS
A WEEK TO GET FREE RENT.

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SO I THREW ON MY HEADBAND
WITH MY HAIR UP

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AND I WENT OUT WITH
MY LITTLE VACUUM CLEANER.

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AND I GOT ONE SIDE
OF THE BUILDING DONE,

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AND THEN MOM CAME RUNNING OVER
ABOUT A HALF HOUR LATER

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AND SHE SAID,
"SANDRA'S APARTMENT'S ON FIRE."

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THE LOOK ON MY MOM'S FACE
WAS SO DEVASTATING

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THAT I JUST DROPPED EVERYTHING.

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SANDRA WAS MY SOUL MATE.

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THERE WAS A CONNECTION
THAT WE HAD.

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WE WERE ALWAYS TOGETHER,
ALWAYS TOGETHER.

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SHE HAD A CERTAIN
CHARISMA ABOUT HER.

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SHE WAS JUST VERY LOVING AND SHE
ATTRACTED PEOPLE LIKE A MAGNET.

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YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

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IF YOU MET HER, YOU LOVE HER.

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YOU KNOW, SHE WAS JUST ALWAYS
LAUGHING AND HAPPY,

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BUT WE WERE JUST
THAT TYPE OF FAMILY.

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[ SIRENS WAILING ]

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WHEN WE SEE THE SMOKE,
WE REALIZE THAT IT IS

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IN THE AREA
OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX

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AND IT'S A SIGNIFICANT
ENOUGH AMOUNT OF SMOKE

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TO REALIZE THAT IT'S
A RELATIVELY LARGE FIRE.

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[ SIRENS WAILING ]

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WE GET OUT OF THE CAR.

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THE SMOKE IS OBVIOUS.

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IT'S HEAVY.

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I CAN SEE A LOT OF ACTIVITY.

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FIREFIGHTERS WERE
RUNNING BACK AND FORTH.

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YOU FEEL THAT TENSION
AND THAT ANXIETY.

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DON'T KNOW WHAT
WE'RE WALKING INTO.

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WE WERE CORDONING OFF THE AREA

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TO KEEP PEOPLE BACK
AT THAT POINT

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SO THE FIREFIGHTERS
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[ SIRENS WAILING,
HORNS HONKING ]

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Man: STAND BEHIND THE LINE.

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- STAY BEHIND THE LINE.
- EXCUSE ME.

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Thomas: EXCUSE ME.

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I JUST REMEMBER RUNNING OVER
TOWARDS THE BUILDING

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AND I SAW HER CAR

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AND THEN THAT'S WHEN
I GOT A LITTLE SCARED.

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AND I REMEMBER JUST THINKING,
"WHERE IS SANDRA?

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WHERE IS SANDRA?"

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AND I COULD HEAR
SOMEBODY SCREAMING.

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[ WOMAN SCREAMING ]

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I WANT TO KNOW
IF I COULD HELP HER,

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BUT THEY WOULDN'T
LET US NEAR THERE.

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SCREAMING, "HELP ME, HELP ME."

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AND AT THAT POINT
I WENT IN TOTAL SHOCK.

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SANDY!
SANDY!

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THEY PUSH US ALL AWAY
AND THEN FROM THERE

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I JUST TOTALLY LOST IT.

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AND THAT'S WHAT STICKS
IN MY HEAD TILL THIS DAY...

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"HELP ME, HELP ME."
[ WOMAN SCREAMING ]

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I KNOW THAT WAS HER VOICE
BECAUSE IT HAUNTS ME

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EVERY SINGLE DAY.

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[ CLEARS THROAT ]

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[ VCR WHIRRING ]

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I WILL ALWAYS
REMEMBER THE SCENE.

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THE FIRE DAMAGE INSIDE
THE APARTMENT WAS SIGNIFICANT.

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WALLPAPER AND PAINT
ARE ALL BURNT OFF THE WALLS

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AS YOU CAN SEE.

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THERE'S A LOT OF DAMAGE INSIDE.

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I MEAN, HERE HE'S LOOKING
AT THE BED, WHAT WAS THE BED,

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AND IT'S COMPLETELY DOWN
TO JUST THE SPRINGS

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IS THE ONLY THING LEFT.

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WE LEARNED THAT THERE IS A BODY.

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KAREN, SANDY'S SISTER
WAS PRESENT.

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HER MOTHER WAS ON THE SCENE.

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SHE KNEW LIKE WE DID
THAT THE BODY WAS

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VERY LIKELY HER DAUGHTER'S.

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I TRY TO BE AS GENTLE WITH
THE INFORMATION AS YOU CAN,

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BUT YOU HAVE TO TELL THEM.

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OH, MY GOD.

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HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?

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YOU GO INTO COMPLETE SHOCK.

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[ SOBS ]

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ME AND SANDY WERE LIKE
OF THE SAME SOUL.

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IT'S LIKE A...

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[voice breaking] INSEPARABLE.

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SAME SOUL, TWO OF A KIND.

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[ EXHALES DEEPLY ]

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OUR HEARTS WERE THE SAME.

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EVERYTHING WAS JUST...

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WE WERE SO MUCH ALIKE.

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THAT'S WHY WHEN SHE DIED,
MY SOUL DIED.

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[ SNIFFLES ]

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Hitch: I SPEAK TO
THE DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL.

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WHAT'D YOU FIND OUT?

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AND HE TELLS ME IT APPEARS

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THAT THE FIRE
WAS INTENTIONALLY SET.

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[ TELEPHONE RINGS ]

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DETECTIVE HITCH.

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A SHORT TIME LATER,

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I LEARN THAT SOMEONE
HAS CALLED THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER

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AND IDENTIFIED HIMSELF

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AS THE DRIFTWOOD KILLER.

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HE HAS CLAIMED RESPONSIBILITY
FOR THE FIRE

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AND THE DEATH OF SANDY,

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BUT HE ALSO IDENTIFIES
HIS NEXT VICTIM BY NAME

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AND SAYS SHE IS GOING TO BE
THE NEXT ONE TO DIE.

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Thomas: THEY HAD EVERYTHING
SPRAWLED OUT ALL OVER THE YARD.

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THIS POLICE OFFICER,
HE SAID, "MS. THOMAS",

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YOU CAN COME UP
AND GO THROUGH THE STUFF.

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EVERYTHING WAS CHARRED,
EVERYTHING.

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THIS IS THIS REALLY
STRANGE THING.

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IT WAS A LITTLE BIBLE
AND THIS WHITE BIBLE...

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IT WAS NOT TOUCHED.

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IT WAS NOT BURNT.

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IT WAS NOT BLACK.

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I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS BIBLE
SINCE IT HAPPENED.

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YOU CAN SMELL A LITTLE BIT
OF FIRE, SMOKE.

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[ SNIFFS ]

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YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF IT
ON THE PAGES, NOT MUCH.

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LIKE SOOT.

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I DON'T SEE ANY BURNS ON IT.

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[ CHUCKLES ]

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THIS IS THE PART I LOVE TO HEAR.

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12/24/92, SO IT WAS
A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE.

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"TO MY FAMILY."

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IF I SHOULD EVER LEAVE
THIS WORLD BEFORE YOU DO,

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HERE'S WHAT I ASK OF YOU.

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BURY ME IN PINK.

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PLEASE DO NOT BE SAD FOREVER
BECAUSE I AM HAPPY NOW.

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"[ Voice breaking ] I LOVE YOU.
SANDRA LEE."

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DON'T BE SAD FOREVER
BECAUSE I AM HAPPY NOW.

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SO, HOW WOULD SHE KNOW THAT?

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TO ME, THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT SHOWS A LOT OF LOVE

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FOR HER FAMILY AND ALSO SHOWS
A PERSON WHO'S VERY, VERY SAD.

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THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER RECEIVED
SOME PHONE CALLS

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FROM AN INDIVIDUAL
WHO IDENTIFIED HIMSELF

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AS THE DRIFTWOOD KILLER.

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HE HAS CLAIMED RESPONSIBILITY
FOR THE FIRE

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AND THE DEATH OF SANDY,

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BUT HE ALSO IDENTIFIES
HIS NEXT VICTIM.

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DETECTIVES GO TO THE APARTMENT

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WHERE THE SECOND
POTENTIAL VICTIM RESIDES

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AND SHE IS TRANSPORTED

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IMMEDIATELY BACK
TO HEADQUARTERS.

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WE'VE RECEIVED SOME
THREATS AGAINST YOU.

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AND EXPLAIN TO HER
THAT WE ARE CONDUCTING

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A HOMICIDE INVESTIGATION

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AND THIS PERSON NAMED HER
AS A POTENTIAL SECOND VICTIM.

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DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES
WITH ANYONE?

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ANY IDEA WHO COULD BE
MAKING THESE THREATS TO YOU?

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SHE HAS RECENTLY BEEN RECEIVING
OBSCENE THREATENING PHONE CALLS.

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SHE HAD HAD THE PHONE
CALLS TRACED

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AND SHE IMMEDIATELY
IDENTIFIES BRIAN STECKEL.

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Steckel: MY BROTHER'S NICKNAME
ALL HIS LIFE WAS BIG RED.

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HE HAD THE BRIGHTEST RED HAIR.

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I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S HAIR
WAS BRIGHTER THAN THAT.

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I WAS AN OLDER BROTHER,
BUT I ALWAYS LOOKED UP TO HIM.

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WE WERE NOT A RICH FAMILY,

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SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THE STUFF
THAT OTHER FAMILY'S HAD.

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YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD LAUGH
ABOUT OUR SHOES,

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MAKE FUN OF THE CLOTHES WE WORE,

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AND BRIAN WAS ALWAYS THE PERSON

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TO STAND BEHIND US
AND BE STRONG.

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♪♪

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THE FIRST MEMORY OF BRIAN'S
TEMPER SCARING US

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WOULD HAVE BEEN,

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I'D SAY, ABOUT 13, 14 YEARS OLD.

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RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL...

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WE WERE HEADING HOME
AND SOMEBODY STARTED

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A FIGHT WITH HIM.

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AND HE BASICALLY TURNED AROUND
AND IT GOT REALLY UGLY.

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HE JUST STARTED, YOU KNOW,
WAILING ON THE GUY

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JUST FOR THE SAKE OF DOING IT.

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HE WENT FROM BEING GOOD
TO BEING BAD,

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VERY BAD, TERRIBLE.

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♪♪

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WE LEARNED THAT STECKEL
FREQUENTS BARS IN THE CITY

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OF WILMINGTON AREA,
SO ALL AVAILABLE DETECTIVES,

242
00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:44,170
WE ARE GOING IN AND OUT OF BARS.

243
00:16:44,167 --> 00:16:45,727
HAVE YOU SEEN THIS GENTLEMAN?

244
00:16:45,733 --> 00:16:48,803
LOOKING FOR HIM,
TRYING TO FIND HIM.

245
00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,630
NO.

246
00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:58,700
THERE IS A SENSE OF URGENCY
TO GET HIM INTO CUSTODY.

247
00:16:58,700 --> 00:17:01,500
THE CALLS
TO THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER

248
00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:05,070
INDICATED THERE
WOULD BE ANOTHER VICTIM,

249
00:17:05,067 --> 00:17:09,067
SO THE POTENTIAL THAT HE COULD
KILL SOMEONE ELSE IS VERY REAL.

250
00:17:09,067 --> 00:17:17,327
♪♪

251
00:17:17,333 --> 00:17:21,073
PATROLMAN MIKE MCGOWAN,
HE OBSERVES A SUBJECT

252
00:17:21,067 --> 00:17:22,897
WALKING ON UNION STREET

253
00:17:22,900 --> 00:17:28,470
THAT HE BELIEVES MATCHES THE
DESCRIPTION OF BRIAN STECKEL.

254
00:17:28,467 --> 00:17:34,567
ASKS THE PERSON TO STOP
AND ASKS FOR A NAME.

255
00:17:34,567 --> 00:17:38,627
HE PROVIDES HIM
WITH A FICTITIOUS NAME,

256
00:17:38,633 --> 00:17:45,473
BUT MIKE RECOGNIZES FROM THE
PICTURE THAT HE'S BEEN PROVIDED.

257
00:17:45,467 --> 00:17:49,897
THIS IS BRIAN STECKEL,
AND I INSTRUCTED THEM

258
00:17:49,900 --> 00:17:55,400
TO BRING BRIAN BACK
TO HEADQUARTERS.

259
00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,900
WHEN PATROLMAN MCGOWAN
WALKS HIM IN THE BACK DOOR,

260
00:17:58,900 --> 00:18:04,730
I AM AT THE DOORWAY
OF OUR TURNKEY AREA.

261
00:18:04,733 --> 00:18:09,233
IT'S AT THAT POINT,
I OBSERVE ON BRIAN'S BOOTS

262
00:18:09,233 --> 00:18:13,633
WHAT APPEARS TO BE
A DROP OF BLOOD.

263
00:18:13,633 --> 00:18:17,933
♪♪

264
00:18:17,933 --> 00:18:19,603
THE CONFESSION AT THIS POINT

265
00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,730
IS VERY CRITICAL
TO THE INVESTIGATION

266
00:18:21,733 --> 00:18:24,173
IF HE IN FACT HAS MURDERED
THIS YOUNG LADY.

267
00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,630
AND I BELIEVE
IT'S AT THAT POINT

268
00:18:31,633 --> 00:18:33,433
THAT BRIAN SAYS, IS SHE DEAD?

269
00:18:44,933 --> 00:18:50,933
♪♪

270
00:18:50,933 --> 00:18:52,873
[ KNOCK ON DOOR ]

271
00:18:52,867 --> 00:18:55,967
Steckel: THERE WAS A KNOCK
ON MY DOOR IN TAMPA.

272
00:18:58,467 --> 00:19:02,527
AND THERE WAS TWO POLICE
OFFICERS THERE TO SAY

273
00:19:02,533 --> 00:19:03,933
YOU HAVE TO CALL HOME.

274
00:19:03,933 --> 00:19:06,473
IT'S AN EMERGENCY.

275
00:19:06,467 --> 00:19:08,227
THEY DIDN'T SAY
WHAT IT WAS ABOUT.

276
00:19:08,233 --> 00:19:10,273
THEY JUST TOLD ME TO CALL HOME.

277
00:19:10,267 --> 00:19:14,367
♪♪

278
00:19:14,367 --> 00:19:16,897
MOM GETS ON THE PHONE.

279
00:19:16,900 --> 00:19:19,470
I SAID, "WELL, YOU'RE OKAY.

280
00:19:19,467 --> 00:19:22,627
WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE PROBLEM?"

281
00:19:22,633 --> 00:19:25,603
AND SHE SAID,

282
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:34,970
"YOUR BROTHER WAS ARRESTED
FOR MURDER IN DELAWARE."

283
00:19:34,967 --> 00:19:38,067
♪♪

284
00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:42,470
I WAS IN TOTAL DISBELIEF.

285
00:19:42,467 --> 00:19:50,767
♪♪

286
00:19:50,767 --> 00:19:52,267
IT'S YOUR BROTHER.

287
00:19:52,267 --> 00:19:54,897
YOU WANT TO SAY THAT,
"NO HE DIDN'T DO IT.

288
00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:56,700
YEAH, IT IS A BIG DREAM.

289
00:19:56,700 --> 00:19:58,200
YEAH, IT'S GONNA
GO AWAY TOMORROW,"

290
00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,630
BUT IT DIDN'T
AND IT DOESN'T EVER GO AWAY.

291
00:20:01,633 --> 00:20:11,633
♪♪

292
00:20:11,633 --> 00:20:19,803
♪♪

293
00:20:33,167 --> 00:20:36,767
WHEN WE INITIALLY
INTERVIEWED BRIAN,

294
00:20:36,767 --> 00:20:39,697
HE IS CALM.
HE'S DOCILE.

295
00:20:45,700 --> 00:20:48,070
BRIAN HAS BEEN LIVING
IN AN APARTMENT

296
00:20:48,067 --> 00:20:51,167
IN THE SAME BUILDING,
ON THE SAME FLOOR.

297
00:20:51,167 --> 00:20:54,797
HE HAD SEEN SANDY,
THOUGHT SHE WAS ATTRACTIVE.

298
00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:11,070
ON THE DAY OF THE MURDER,

299
00:21:11,067 --> 00:21:14,327
STECKEL SAYS HE WENT
TO THE APARTMENT

300
00:21:14,333 --> 00:21:17,773
AND THERE IS A CONFRONTATION.

301
00:21:24,367 --> 00:21:29,497
BRIAN ADMITS TO RAPING,
STRANGLING,

302
00:21:29,500 --> 00:21:33,070
BEATING SANDY AND SETTING
HER APARTMENT ON FIRE.

303
00:21:37,500 --> 00:21:40,070
♪♪

304
00:21:40,067 --> 00:21:42,067
IT'S AS IF HE'S TALKING
ABOUT SOMETHING

305
00:21:42,067 --> 00:21:43,867
VERY INSIGNIFICANT TO HIM.

306
00:21:53,167 --> 00:21:54,927
IT WAS REALLY HARD TO GET
A TAKE ON BRIAN

307
00:21:54,933 --> 00:21:56,473
IN THAT FIRST INTERVIEW.

308
00:21:56,467 --> 00:21:59,227
ARE WE DEALING WITH
A TRULY EVIL PERSON HERE

309
00:21:59,233 --> 00:22:04,073
OR ARE WE DEALING WITH,
YOU KNOW,

310
00:22:04,067 --> 00:22:06,397
A GUY WHO DID A BAD THING?

311
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,230
♪♪

312
00:22:25,167 --> 00:22:27,967
[ STATIC PLAYS ]

313
00:22:27,967 --> 00:22:31,067
♪♪

314
00:22:40,333 --> 00:22:43,233
YOU KNOW, YOU THINK MAYBE
SHE LEFT THE KETTLE ON.

315
00:22:43,233 --> 00:22:45,833
SHE WENT SOMEWHERE
OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW.

316
00:22:48,833 --> 00:22:54,073
DETECTIVE HITCH CALLED AND SAID,
"I HAVE SOMETHING TO TELL YOU."

317
00:22:56,967 --> 00:22:59,667
AND HE TOLD US THAT
SHE WAS MURDERED

318
00:22:59,667 --> 00:23:03,497
AND THE GUY TURNED HIMSELF IN.

319
00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:05,670
[ SNIFFLES ]

320
00:23:05,667 --> 00:23:08,927
♪♪

321
00:23:08,933 --> 00:23:10,803
IT WAS JUST DEVASTATING TO KNOW

322
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:16,300
THAT SOMEBODY WAS IN CONTROL
OF HER LIFE ENDING.

323
00:23:16,300 --> 00:23:20,630
I STILL LIVE FOR HER EVERYDAY
AND I CAN'T GET OVER IT.

324
00:23:20,633 --> 00:23:23,673
♪♪

325
00:23:32,300 --> 00:23:34,200
[ TELEPHONE RINGING ]

326
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,130
THE NIGHT BEFORE SHE GOT KILLED,

327
00:23:36,133 --> 00:23:42,073
I JUST REMEMBERED BEING OUT
ON THE PATIO AND HER CALLING.

328
00:23:42,067 --> 00:23:43,627
[ ANSWERING MACHINE BEEPS ]

329
00:23:43,633 --> 00:23:48,273
LONG: Karen, pick up.

330
00:23:48,267 --> 00:23:51,597
I LET IT GO INTO VOICE
MAIL A FEW TIMES.

331
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,230
[ TELEPHONE RINGS ]

332
00:23:54,233 --> 00:23:55,703
[ ANSWERING MACHINE BEEPS ]

333
00:23:55,700 --> 00:24:00,330
SHE SAID, "SIS, WHY AREN'T YOU
ANSWERING YOUR CALL?"

334
00:24:00,333 --> 00:24:02,203
I GUESS I WAS AVOIDING HER.

335
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,230
♪♪

336
00:24:08,167 --> 00:24:10,667
SANDRA WAS IN
AN ABUSIVE MARRIAGE

337
00:24:10,667 --> 00:24:14,097
AND FINALLY SHE GOT DIVORCED.

338
00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:17,130
SHE WAS DEFINITELY IN A LOT
OF PAIN AND SHE WAS ON DRUGS.

339
00:24:17,133 --> 00:24:20,303
AND SANDRA TO ME WAS ABOVE THAT,

340
00:24:20,300 --> 00:24:22,900
AND I WAS PLAYING
THAT HARD LOVE.

341
00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:25,470
[ TELEPHONE RINGS ]

342
00:24:25,467 --> 00:24:26,767
[ ANSWERING MACHINE BEEPS ]

343
00:24:26,767 --> 00:24:29,567
I want to talk to you.
Call me back.

344
00:24:29,567 --> 00:24:31,667
I THINK MY SISTER
WAS TRYING TO CONTACT ME

345
00:24:31,667 --> 00:24:34,727
BECAUSE SHE WAS ASKING
EVERYBODY ELSE,

346
00:24:34,733 --> 00:24:36,833
YOU KNOW, IF SHE COULD
MOVE IN WITH THEM.

347
00:24:36,833 --> 00:24:39,873
[ TELEPHONE RINGS ]

348
00:24:39,867 --> 00:24:43,127
AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW
WHAT I WOULD HAVE SAID.

349
00:24:45,300 --> 00:24:48,070
AND THAT'S WHAT BOTHERS ME IS
WHEN SHE GOT MURDERED,

350
00:24:48,067 --> 00:24:51,067
SHE FELT LIKE I DIDN'T LOVE HER.

351
00:24:53,133 --> 00:24:56,173
♪♪

352
00:25:05,367 --> 00:25:09,067
BRIAN SEEMED TO BE PROUD
OF WHAT HE DID.

353
00:25:09,067 --> 00:25:14,297
HE SEEMED TO WANT
TO DO IT AGAIN.

354
00:25:14,300 --> 00:25:18,800
DETECTIVE DOWNS SAID TO ME,
STECKEL WAS A SERIAL KILLER

355
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,870
WHO GOT CAUGHT
HIS FIRST TIME OUT.

356
00:25:25,900 --> 00:25:28,900
BUT THEN THERE WERE OTHER
POINTS DURING THAT INTERVIEW

357
00:25:28,900 --> 00:25:30,570
WHERE YOU SAW
A DIFFERENT PERSON.

358
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,170
I THINK PROBABLY
FOR A PERIOD OF TIME,

359
00:25:42,167 --> 00:25:44,767
HE DID WONDER,
"WHAT THE HECK DID I DO?

360
00:25:44,767 --> 00:25:48,467
WHAT DID I DO HERE?"

361
00:25:48,467 --> 00:25:51,767
BUT WHAT WE SAW AFTER THAT,

362
00:25:51,767 --> 00:25:56,297
THE THINGS HE DID
TO TAUNT SANDY'S MOTHER,

363
00:25:56,300 --> 00:25:58,800
TO TAUNT THE PROSECUTORS,

364
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,500
THIS WAS NOT A MAN
WHO WAS REMORSEFUL.

365
00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:04,470
I MEAN, HE WAS A MONSTER.

366
00:26:13,467 --> 00:26:16,497
♪♪

367
00:26:18,533 --> 00:26:20,203
[ KNOCK ON DOOR ]

368
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,070
THE LAST TIME
I SPOKE TO BRIAN,

369
00:26:24,067 --> 00:26:26,927
HE KNOCKED ON THE DOOR

370
00:26:26,933 --> 00:26:32,173
AND HE WANTED TO STAY
THE NIGHT WITH US.

371
00:26:32,167 --> 00:26:36,727
I WOULD HAVE LOVED
TO LET HIM STAY,

372
00:26:36,733 --> 00:26:40,073
BUT I WAS CONCERNED
HE WAS ON PROBATION

373
00:26:40,067 --> 00:26:44,727
AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WOULD
HAVE BEEN THE RIGHT THING TO DO

374
00:26:44,733 --> 00:26:46,703
BECAUSE OF MY FAMILY
BEING SO YOUNG

375
00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:51,270
AND WE WERE JUST NEWLY MARRIED.

376
00:26:51,267 --> 00:26:56,127
I GAVE HIM A HUG.
I TOLD HIM I LOVED HIM.

377
00:26:56,133 --> 00:27:03,073
HE JUST LEFT
AND DIDN'T TURN BACK.

378
00:27:06,067 --> 00:27:08,297
AND THAT'S THE LAST TIME
I SAW HIM

379
00:27:08,300 --> 00:27:12,570
UNTIL I HAD TO COME BACK HOME.

380
00:27:12,567 --> 00:27:15,597
♪♪

381
00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:24,470
Hitch: I THINK HE FANTASIZED
ABOUT KILLING OTHER PEOPLE,

382
00:27:24,467 --> 00:27:29,067
AND BRIAN WANTED TO BE
A SERIAL KILLER.

383
00:27:29,067 --> 00:27:32,097
♪♪

384
00:27:35,733 --> 00:27:39,933
HE THEN STARTS WRITING
LETTERS FROM PRISON

385
00:27:39,933 --> 00:27:45,073
DESCRIBING WHAT HE HAD
DONE TO SANDY.

386
00:27:45,067 --> 00:27:49,297
♪♪

387
00:27:49,300 --> 00:27:53,570
BRIAN WAS TRYING TO
STRETCH THIS MURDER

388
00:27:53,567 --> 00:27:58,897
THAT HE COMMITTED AND WAS TRYING
TO DRAW EVERY BIT OF EXCITEMENT

389
00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:02,370
THAT HE COULD
GET OUT OF IT.

390
00:28:02,367 --> 00:28:06,767
HE BEGINS TO SEND LETTERS
TO THE PROSECUTORS

391
00:28:06,767 --> 00:28:08,527
ASSIGNED TO THE CASE,

392
00:28:08,533 --> 00:28:12,073
TO THE ORIGINAL JUDGE
ASSIGNED TO THE CASE,

393
00:28:12,067 --> 00:28:14,767
SAYING I'M GOING
TO DO THIS AGAIN.

394
00:28:17,067 --> 00:28:19,727
BUT THE WORSE OF THOSE LETTERS

395
00:28:19,733 --> 00:28:23,203
WERE WHAT HE SENT
TO GINNY THOMAS,

396
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,430
SANDY'S MOM,

397
00:28:26,433 --> 00:28:29,073
DESCRIBING IN INTIMATE DETAIL

398
00:28:29,067 --> 00:28:32,467
THE WAY HE KILLED
HER BABY GIRL.

399
00:28:32,467 --> 00:28:35,497
♪♪

400
00:28:42,133 --> 00:28:45,173
♪♪

401
00:28:54,267 --> 00:28:56,227
I WAS IN THE DETECTIVE DIVISION.

402
00:28:56,233 --> 00:28:57,703
I RECEIVE A CALL.

403
00:28:57,700 --> 00:29:00,200
IT'S GINNY THOMAS
AND SHE SAYS,

404
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,700
"MARK, I HAVE THE LETTER."

405
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:04,970
AND I TOLD HER,

406
00:29:04,967 --> 00:29:10,667
"I'M ON MY WAY,
PLEASE DON'T OPEN IT."

407
00:29:10,667 --> 00:29:13,967
I TRIED TO PROTECT GINNY
DURING THIS THE WAY

408
00:29:13,967 --> 00:29:19,297
I WOULD WANT A POLICE OFFICER
TO PROTECT MY MOTHER.

409
00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:23,400
THERE WAS NO OTHER PURPOSE
TO SEND THAT TO SANDY'S MOM,

410
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,070
BUT AN EFFORT TO DESTROY HER,

411
00:29:27,067 --> 00:29:30,727
EMOTIONALLY DESTROY HER.

412
00:29:30,733 --> 00:29:34,473
WHEN I PULL UP IN FRONT
OF THE RESIDENCE,

413
00:29:34,467 --> 00:29:37,327
GINNY IS SITTING
ON THE FRONT STEP

414
00:29:37,333 --> 00:29:45,733
OF THE HOUSE HOLDING THE LETTER,
AND I WENT UP TO HER.

415
00:29:45,733 --> 00:29:53,073
I TAKE THE LETTER FROM HER
AND SHE SAYS TO ME,

416
00:29:53,067 --> 00:29:55,597
"IT WAS ALL I COULD DO
NOT TO OPEN THIS AND READ IT."

417
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,630
♪♪

418
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,630
♪♪

419
00:30:11,133 --> 00:30:13,873
[ CLEARS THROAT ]
SO, THIS LETTER TO GINNY

420
00:30:13,867 --> 00:30:16,027
THAT BRIAN SENT SAYS,

421
00:30:16,033 --> 00:30:18,633
"DEAR MRS. VIRGINIA THOMAS."

422
00:30:18,633 --> 00:30:21,073
I'll START THIS LETTER TO YOU BY SAYING

423
00:30:21,067 --> 00:30:25,067
I AM NOT SORRY FOR WHAT
I DID TO YOUR DAUGHTER.

424
00:30:25,067 --> 00:30:28,467
SHE DESERVED EVERYTHING SHE GOT.

425
00:30:28,467 --> 00:30:32,527
"I STOLE HER FUTURE
AND I RAPED HER."

426
00:30:32,533 --> 00:30:36,673
♪♪

427
00:30:36,667 --> 00:30:39,127
THE LETTER GOES ON
FOR 17 PAGES.

428
00:30:39,133 --> 00:30:43,303
♪♪

429
00:30:43,300 --> 00:30:48,130
AND THAT'S WHEN MY THOUGHTS
SHIFTED FROM THIS IS

430
00:30:48,133 --> 00:30:50,903
A GUY WHO COMMITTED
AN EVIL ACT

431
00:30:50,900 --> 00:30:52,930
TO THIS IS AN EVIL MAN.

432
00:30:52,933 --> 00:30:55,973
♪♪

433
00:31:03,433 --> 00:31:07,073
I DIDN'T HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE
OF WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.

434
00:31:07,067 --> 00:31:10,597
I REALLY TRIED TO BLOCK IT OUT
OF MY LIFE SO I CAN MOVE ON.

435
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,630
♪♪

436
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,630
♪♪

437
00:31:27,533 --> 00:31:30,933
I SAW SOME OF THE PICTURES
AND SOME

438
00:31:30,933 --> 00:31:33,233
OF THE EFFECTS OF THE CRIME.

439
00:31:33,233 --> 00:31:36,273
♪♪

440
00:31:38,467 --> 00:31:42,897
IT JUST, LIKE,
WAS UNFATHOMABLE TO ME.

441
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:45,070
I JUST WALKED OUT.

442
00:31:45,067 --> 00:31:48,797
I DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR ANYMORE.

443
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,800
I JUST WANTED TO GO
AWAY FROM IT.

444
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,070
I JUST WANTED TO BE OVER THAT.

445
00:31:55,067 --> 00:31:57,727
MY BROTHER,
AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME,

446
00:31:57,733 --> 00:32:00,773
WASN'T THE PERSON
THAT I KNEW, NOT GROWING UP.

447
00:32:03,167 --> 00:32:05,167
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN DO THAT

448
00:32:05,167 --> 00:32:08,967
IF YOU'RE NOT ON DRUGS
OR ALCOHOL

449
00:32:08,967 --> 00:32:12,097
OR SOMETHING THAT'S DISTORTED
YOUR MIND TO THAT DEGREE.

450
00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:15,130
♪♪

451
00:32:33,733 --> 00:32:38,503
THAT'S KIND OF DISTURBING,
VERY DISTURBING

452
00:32:38,500 --> 00:32:43,400
BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

453
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:49,300
THAT WOULD MEAN TO ME
THAT HE...

454
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:52,930
WAS REALLY GONNA
DO THIS WAY BEFORE.

455
00:32:52,933 --> 00:32:55,603
THAT IS...

456
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,630
♪♪

457
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,170
BUT I DID NOT KNOW

458
00:33:05,167 --> 00:33:08,927
AND THAT WILL DISTURB ME
A LONG TIME

459
00:33:08,933 --> 00:33:12,633
THAT HE WAS THERE
THE DAY BEFORE.

460
00:33:12,633 --> 00:33:15,303
SO I AM GLAD
I DID THIS INTERVIEW.

461
00:33:20,067 --> 00:33:28,427
VERY GLAD BECAUSE I FOUND OUT
WHAT I NEEDED TO KNOW

462
00:33:28,433 --> 00:33:32,973
THAT HE WAS A VERY BAD MAN.

463
00:33:32,967 --> 00:33:36,067
♪♪

464
00:33:37,767 --> 00:33:39,927
CAN YOU CUT?

465
00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:52,130
♪♪

466
00:33:54,133 --> 00:33:58,273
OH, THIS IS THE LETTER
HE WROTE ON OCTOBER 31ST.

467
00:33:58,267 --> 00:34:04,127
AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW
HAPPY HE WAS TO SEE ME AGAIN.

468
00:34:04,133 --> 00:34:07,803
"LOVE YOU, BRO.
KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE FUTURE."

469
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,100
♪♪

470
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:14,070
HE WOULD SEND US LETTERS
VERY FREQUENTLY.

471
00:34:14,067 --> 00:34:17,067
♪♪

472
00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:23,700
HE DID A LOT OF WRITING BECAUSE
HIS TIME WAS VERY LIMITED.

473
00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:34,930
- YOU DON'T.
- YOU DON'T.

474
00:34:34,933 --> 00:34:36,333
YOU DON'T.

475
00:34:36,333 --> 00:34:39,373
♪♪

476
00:34:46,333 --> 00:34:49,373
♪♪

477
00:34:56,533 --> 00:35:02,973
Steckel: I SAW HIM LIKE A COUPLE
WEEKS PRIOR TO THE EXECUTION.

478
00:35:02,967 --> 00:35:05,167
THE COUNSELOR SAID,
"IT'S IN YOUR BEST INTEREST

479
00:35:05,167 --> 00:35:07,827
THAT THE LAST THING YOU DO

480
00:35:07,833 --> 00:35:10,673
IS GIVE YOUR HUG GOODBYE
OR WHATEVER

481
00:35:10,667 --> 00:35:16,627
AND WALK OUT OF THE ROOM
AND LEAVE AND DON'T TURN BACK."

482
00:35:16,633 --> 00:35:19,073
WE WERE AT THE END
OF OUR 29 MINUTES OR SO.

483
00:35:19,067 --> 00:35:23,627
THEY SAID, "YOU HAVE
A MINUTE TO GO."

484
00:35:23,633 --> 00:35:27,073
I SAID I LOVE YOU,

485
00:35:27,067 --> 00:35:29,167
I GAVE HIM A HUG...

486
00:35:29,167 --> 00:35:32,197
♪♪

487
00:35:32,933 --> 00:35:37,833
AND THEN WE HEADED
FOR THE DOOR.

488
00:35:37,833 --> 00:35:44,733
AS I WAS EXITING,
I TURNED TO LOOK BACK

489
00:35:44,733 --> 00:35:47,673
AND THAT WAS THE LAST TIME
I SEEN MY BROTHERS FACE

490
00:35:47,667 --> 00:35:50,067
WITH A SMILE ON IT.

491
00:35:50,067 --> 00:35:54,127
I TURNED AROUND WHEN I WASN'T
SUPPOSED TO TURN AROUND,

492
00:35:54,133 --> 00:35:57,133
AND THAT'S THE FACE
I SEE EVERYDAY

493
00:35:57,133 --> 00:36:00,073
I WALK AROUND
WITH MY OWN LIFE.

494
00:36:00,067 --> 00:36:03,067
♪♪

495
00:36:10,067 --> 00:36:13,067
♪♪

496
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:24,470
Hitch: I HAD NO OVERWHELMING
DESIRE TO GO SEE BRIAN STECKEL DIE,

497
00:36:24,467 --> 00:36:28,597
BUT I KNEW SANDY'S MOM
WAS GOING TO BE

498
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,530
AT BRIAN STECKEL'S EXECUTION

499
00:36:33,533 --> 00:36:38,073
AND I THOUGHT IT WAS
MY RESPONSIBILITY TO GINNY

500
00:36:38,067 --> 00:36:41,097
TO BE THERE FOR HER.

501
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:48,830
I FELT LIKE WHAT I WITNESSED,
HOW I WATCHED BRIAN STECKEL DIE

502
00:36:48,833 --> 00:36:54,603
WAS FAR LESS TERRIFYING
AND HORRIFIC

503
00:36:54,600 --> 00:37:01,070
THAN THE DEATH
THAT SANDY LONG EXPERIENCED.

504
00:37:01,067 --> 00:37:08,227
BRIAN WAS EXECUTED 10 OR
SO YEARS AFTER HE KILLED SANDY.

505
00:37:08,233 --> 00:37:15,303
BRIAN HAD 10 YEARS
TO VISIT WITH HIS FAMILY.

506
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:21,330
SANDY'S LAST 10 MINUTES
WERE IN SHEER TERROR AND AGONY.

507
00:37:21,333 --> 00:37:25,333
♪♪

508
00:37:25,333 --> 00:37:29,433
I STOOD DIRECTLY
BEHIND GINNY THOMAS.

509
00:37:29,433 --> 00:37:33,603
ALL I REMEMBER FEELING
IS JUST SYMPATHY FOR HER,

510
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,100
SORROW FOR HER.

511
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:40,630
I DID NOT HAVE ANY SYMPATHY
FOR BRIAN STECKEL.

512
00:37:40,633 --> 00:37:43,433
I KNOW THAT'S COLD.

513
00:37:43,433 --> 00:37:47,933
WHAT I FELT FOR BRIAN WAS,
THIS IS JUSTICE.

514
00:37:47,933 --> 00:37:50,973
♪♪

515
00:37:58,367 --> 00:37:59,727
HEY, BUDDY.

516
00:37:59,733 --> 00:38:02,273
HOW ARE YOU, HONEY?

517
00:38:02,267 --> 00:38:04,367
NICE TO SEE YOU.

518
00:38:04,367 --> 00:38:07,267
IT'S BEEN 23 YEARS.

519
00:38:07,267 --> 00:38:11,167
OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME,
GINNY THOMAS AND I

520
00:38:11,167 --> 00:38:13,867
DEVELOPED A RELATIONSHIP

521
00:38:13,867 --> 00:38:16,497
THAT IS DIFFICULT
TO DESCRIBE.

522
00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:18,070
IT'S BEEN AWHILE FOR US
ANYWAY, RIGHT?

523
00:38:18,067 --> 00:38:19,327
IT HAS.
IT'S BEEN REAL LONG.

524
00:38:19,333 --> 00:38:20,503
I DON'T REMEMBER...

525
00:38:20,500 --> 00:38:26,430
YOU'RE NEVER GOING
TO COMPLETELY HEAL

526
00:38:26,433 --> 00:38:29,203
THE EMOTIONAL PAIN.

527
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,300
BUT YOU'VE BEEN STRONG.

528
00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:31,530
YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN STRONG.

529
00:38:31,533 --> 00:38:34,333
YEAH. YUP.

530
00:38:34,333 --> 00:38:37,373
BUT THERE IS SOME SENSE
OF SATISFACTION

531
00:38:37,367 --> 00:38:40,097
THAT YOU DID EVERYTHING
YOU COULD DO

532
00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:43,670
TO HELP THEM TO FIND
SOME LEVEL OF CLOSURE.

533
00:38:43,667 --> 00:38:46,727
♪♪

534
00:38:46,733 --> 00:38:50,533
YOU'RE WORKING THESE CASES
FOR THESE FAMILIES.

535
00:38:50,533 --> 00:38:54,733
♪♪

536
00:38:54,733 --> 00:38:57,803
I INVESTIGATED A LOT OF CASES.

537
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,800
SOME OF THE DEFENDANTS
I REMEMBER.

538
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,670
SOME OF THEM I DON'T.

539
00:39:02,667 --> 00:39:07,327
BRIAN IS SOMEONE THAT
I DON'T THINK I'll EVER FORGET.

540
00:39:07,333 --> 00:39:10,373
♪♪

541
00:39:17,333 --> 00:39:19,573
♪♪

542
00:39:19,567 --> 00:39:25,627
Thomas: MY BROTHER WAS
SO ANGRY, PARANOID.

543
00:39:25,633 --> 00:39:28,103
HE DRANK.

544
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:32,370
TOOK SOME PILLS FOR, YOU KNOW,
ANXIETY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

545
00:39:32,367 --> 00:39:37,197
MY DAD, HE DIED OF
A HEART ATTACK SUDDENLY.

546
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,530
HE DIED OF A BROKEN
HEART BASICALLY.

547
00:39:39,533 --> 00:39:43,573
HE WAS NEVER THE SAME.

548
00:39:43,567 --> 00:39:47,697
AND THEN AFTER MY DAD DIED,
MY BROTHER DIED.

549
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:50,600
BRIAN STECKEL,
I FEEL STOLE MY FATHER

550
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,930
AND MY BROTHER'S
WILL TO LIVE AND MINE.

551
00:39:54,933 --> 00:39:57,973
♪♪

552
00:39:58,733 --> 00:40:00,803
[ SOBS ]

553
00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:07,900
I'VE BEEN LIKE THIS
FOR YEARS.

554
00:40:07,900 --> 00:40:10,970
I TRY. I JUST CAN'T.

555
00:40:10,967 --> 00:40:13,397
[ SIGHS ]
I MISS THEM ALL.

556
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,430
♪♪

557
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,430
♪♪

558
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,430
♪♪

559
00:40:40,300 --> 00:40:45,870
BRIAN DID A JOURNAL AND I KNOW
YOU HAVEN'T READ IT, OKAY.

560
00:40:45,867 --> 00:40:50,067
BUT I THINK IT WOULD
REALLY HELP

561
00:40:50,067 --> 00:40:55,267
IF YOU WOULD READ
THIS ONE PAGE, OKAY?

562
00:40:58,233 --> 00:41:01,273
"TEN AND A HALF YEARS AGO,
I COMMITTED A CRIME,

563
00:41:01,267 --> 00:41:04,897
A COWARD ACT THAT
I'M TOTALLY ASHAMED OF

564
00:41:04,900 --> 00:41:07,730
AND NO ONE AS NICE AS HER

565
00:41:07,733 --> 00:41:12,933
DESERVED TO DIE
IN THE MANNER IN WHICH SHE DID.

566
00:41:12,933 --> 00:41:17,273
I HOPE YOU COULD ONE DAY
FIND PEACE IN FORGIVING ME

567
00:41:17,267 --> 00:41:19,567
"FOR MY SHAMEFUL BEHAVIOR."

568
00:41:19,567 --> 00:41:22,597
♪♪

569
00:41:31,167 --> 00:41:33,167
AT LEAST HE SAID
HE WAS SORRY.

570
00:41:33,167 --> 00:41:34,527
YEP.

571
00:41:34,533 --> 00:41:36,673
HE SAID HE WAS SORRY.

572
00:41:36,667 --> 00:41:39,697
♪♪

573
00:41:44,933 --> 00:41:47,673
I THINK WE ALL ARE SORRY.

574
00:41:50,833 --> 00:41:52,933
[ SNIFFLES ]

575
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,630
IT STILL WON'T BRING
ANY OF THEM BACK.

576
00:41:57,633 --> 00:42:02,133
♪♪

577
00:42:02,133 --> 00:42:07,073
[ Voice breaking ] THEY STILL
LOSE HER AND WE LOSE HIM.

578
00:42:07,067 --> 00:42:10,067
♪♪

579
00:42:10,933 --> 00:42:13,533
IT'LL NEVER RIGHT THE WRONG.

580
00:42:13,533 --> 00:42:23,533
♪♪

581
00:42:23,533 --> 00:42:25,903
[ SNIFFLES ]