1 00:00:02,517 --> 00:00:05,897 WHEN I GOT THERE IT ALMOST LOOKED LIKE I THREW 2 00:00:05,896 --> 00:00:10,336 WATER IN HIS FACE, HIS WHOLE DEMEANOR CHANGED. 3 00:00:10,344 --> 00:00:12,004 I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO WALTER 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,170 AND I KNEW I WAS GONNA FIND OUT. 5 00:00:15,172 --> 00:00:17,142 EVERY ONCE AND WHILE YOU COME ACROSS A CASE LIKE 6 00:00:17,137 --> 00:00:20,717 THE ACKERSON CASE, THAT IS SOMETHING I WON'T FORGET. 7 00:00:20,724 --> 00:00:23,554 FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, ONE IT'S TRAGIC. 8 00:00:27,344 --> 00:00:30,074 "DEAR MR. LANTHIER, I'M WRITING TO YOU ON 9 00:00:30,068 --> 00:00:32,518 "BEHALF OF A DOCUMENTARY SERIES FOR 10 00:00:32,517 --> 00:00:38,377 "INVESTIGATION DISCOVERY, TITLED 'SHATTERED.' 11 00:00:38,379 --> 00:00:39,689 "OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS I HAVE 12 00:00:39,689 --> 00:00:43,339 BEEN RESEARCHING WALTER ACKERSON." 13 00:00:43,344 --> 00:00:46,764 WHEN I FINALLY LEARNED WHAT HAPPENED TO WALTER ACKERSON, 14 00:00:46,758 --> 00:00:51,238 IT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT TIME FOR ME. 15 00:00:51,241 --> 00:00:56,621 IT FELT LIKE I HAD FAILED, 16 00:00:56,620 --> 00:01:00,690 REGARDLESS OF WHAT ANYONE ELSE DID, 17 00:01:00,689 --> 00:01:04,789 THAT I HAD FAILED. 18 00:01:04,793 --> 00:01:08,343 IT HAUNTS YOU. DAY AND NIGHT. 19 00:01:08,344 --> 00:01:11,974 I WOULD HAVE DREAMS WHERE HE WOULD BE LIKE, 20 00:01:11,965 --> 00:01:15,445 "YOU'RE NOT LOOKING HARD ENOUGH." 21 00:01:15,448 --> 00:01:17,138 THEN YOU WOULD THINK WELL, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, 22 00:01:17,137 --> 00:01:19,477 MAYBE I'M WRONG, MAYBE HE'S NOT GONE, 23 00:01:19,482 --> 00:01:22,622 MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE. 24 00:01:22,620 --> 00:01:26,970 BUT IT'S NOTHING YOU CAN REALLY TALK ABOUT. 25 00:01:26,965 --> 00:01:28,925 YOU CAN'T TALK TO ANYBODY, 26 00:01:28,931 --> 00:01:32,171 YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY "HOW MANY CHILDREN DO YOU HAVE?" 27 00:01:32,172 --> 00:01:34,832 AND YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY THREE, 28 00:01:34,827 --> 00:01:39,097 BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY THERE'S ONLY TWO 29 00:01:39,103 --> 00:01:44,003 AND SO YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT IT, YOU DON'T TELL ANYONE. 30 00:01:57,137 --> 00:02:00,097 Captions by VITAC... www.vitac.com 31 00:02:00,103 --> 00:02:03,173 CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS 32 00:02:22,793 --> 00:02:25,933 THE CALL THAT CAME IN ON THIS CASE THAT CAUSED ME TO LOOK 33 00:02:25,931 --> 00:02:30,451 BACK INTO WAS A CALL FROM A POLICE AGENCY BACK IN ALABAMA. 34 00:02:35,310 --> 00:02:38,620 THEY WERE INVESTIGATING A PERSON WHO PREYED ON 35 00:02:38,620 --> 00:02:42,340 16-YEAR-OLD BOYS AND WHEN WALTER CAME UP MISSING 36 00:02:42,344 --> 00:02:45,554 HE WAS A 16-YEAR-OLD BOY. 37 00:02:45,551 --> 00:02:49,931 AND ONE OF WALTER ACKERSON'S MISSING PERSON FLYERS WAS 38 00:02:49,931 --> 00:02:55,211 IN THIS MAN WHO WAS ARRESTED, WAS IN HIS MATERIALS. 39 00:02:55,206 --> 00:02:56,716 AND SO THE ASSUMPTION WAS, OF COURSE, 40 00:02:56,724 --> 00:02:59,724 THAT WALTER MUST HAVE BEEN ONE OF HIS VICTIMS. 41 00:03:14,241 --> 00:03:18,591 THIS WAS MY FIRST MAJOR CASE AS A DETECTIVE 42 00:03:18,586 --> 00:03:20,376 AND AT THE POINT I GOT THE INVESTIGATION 43 00:03:20,379 --> 00:03:25,099 14 YEARS HAD PASSED, I HAD NO INFORMATION OR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT 44 00:03:25,103 --> 00:03:28,523 THIS ACKERSON CASE THAT OCCURRED BACK IN 1990. 45 00:03:28,517 --> 00:03:32,097 THAT'S BEFORE I EVEN STARTED. 46 00:03:32,103 --> 00:03:33,283 WHEN I OPENED THE ORIGINAL CASE FILE 47 00:03:33,275 --> 00:03:35,135 IT WAS JUST KIND OF A MESS. 48 00:03:35,137 --> 00:03:39,237 THINGS THAT WERE OUT OF ORDER AND THERE WERE LEADS THERE 49 00:03:39,241 --> 00:03:42,451 THAT WERE REALLY NOT FOLLOWED THROUGH. 50 00:03:42,448 --> 00:03:45,068 THE VERY LAST ENTRY BY OUR OFFICE WAS THAT 51 00:03:45,068 --> 00:03:48,208 THE CASE WAS CLOSED AS A RUNAWAY 52 00:03:48,206 --> 00:03:51,656 BUT NOTHING WAS REALLY DONE WITH THE CASE. 53 00:03:51,655 --> 00:03:52,855 AND THAT KIND OF CAUGHT MY ATTENTION. 54 00:03:52,862 --> 00:03:56,692 THIS IS UNUSUAL, THIS ISN'T A CASE 55 00:03:56,689 --> 00:03:58,689 THAT YOU COME ACROSS EVERY DAY. 56 00:04:09,172 --> 00:04:11,002 I WANTED TO BE CAREFUL WHAT I SAID. 57 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,590 I DIDN'T WANT TO SHARE WITH HER THAT THERE WAS 58 00:04:12,586 --> 00:04:16,276 THE POTENTIAL OF THIS ABDUCTION AND MOLESTATION. 59 00:04:16,275 --> 00:04:20,475 I DIDN'T WANT HER TO HAVE TO THINK THAT THESE VERY BAD 60 00:04:20,482 --> 00:04:24,592 THINGS COULD'VE HAPPENED WHEN I CERTAINLY DIDN'T KNOW. 61 00:04:24,586 --> 00:04:27,166 I'VE BEEN TAKING A LOOK AT THE FILES. 62 00:04:27,172 --> 00:04:29,032 BUT I DID WANT TO LET HER KNOW THAT THE CASE 63 00:04:29,034 --> 00:04:31,724 WAS BEING REOPENED AND INVESTIGATED. 64 00:04:31,724 --> 00:04:34,284 I don't have any definitive evidence yet. 65 00:04:34,275 --> 00:04:35,585 BUT I'M GONNA LOOK INTO IT FOR YOU. 66 00:04:35,586 --> 00:04:37,616 SHE ACTUALLY TOOK THAT VERY POSITIVELY, 67 00:04:37,620 --> 00:04:40,340 SHE WAS VERY HAPPY, SHE REALLY JUST WANTED THIS CASE 68 00:04:40,344 --> 00:04:44,384 RUN OUT FURTHER AND SHE FELT LIKE SHE NEVER GOT THAT. 69 00:04:55,034 --> 00:04:58,454 I WANTED THEM TO INVESTIGATE IN THE HOPES THAT 70 00:04:58,448 --> 00:05:02,518 WE COULD FIND AN ANSWER AS TO WHAT HAPPENED TO MY SON. 71 00:05:02,517 --> 00:05:05,827 ALL THESE YEARS POLICE HAD BEEN TELLING ME, YOU KNOW, 72 00:05:05,827 --> 00:05:08,137 "HE'S A RUNAWAY, YOU'RE A HYSTERICAL MOTHER. 73 00:05:08,137 --> 00:05:10,307 HE JUST WANTS TO DO HIS OWN THING." 74 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:12,140 BUT I KNOW MY SON, 75 00:05:12,137 --> 00:05:15,067 THIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, WHAT HE WOULD DO. 76 00:05:15,068 --> 00:05:19,898 HE WOULD HAVE CALLED, THAT WAS JUST WHO HE WAS. 77 00:05:29,758 --> 00:05:32,308 WALTER WAS REALLY GOOD AT READING 78 00:05:32,310 --> 00:05:35,720 AND HE WAS REASONABLY GOOD AT SPELLING AS WELL, 79 00:05:35,724 --> 00:05:39,864 BUT PEOPLE BULLIED HIM BECAUSE HE WAS SMALLER. 80 00:05:39,862 --> 00:05:43,032 SO HE WAS SKIPPING SCHOOL. 81 00:05:43,034 --> 00:05:46,414 HE WOULD JUST LEAVE THE SCHOOL, THAT WAS THE SOLUTION 82 00:05:46,413 --> 00:05:49,903 THAT HE HAD WAS JUST RUN FROM IT. 83 00:05:49,896 --> 00:05:55,276 THEY WERE GOING TO EXPEL HIM FOR MISSING SO MUCH. 84 00:05:55,275 --> 00:05:58,785 JOB CORPS SEEMED LIKE THE PERFECT 85 00:05:58,793 --> 00:06:00,343 SOLUTION FOR HIM AT THAT TIME. 86 00:06:08,034 --> 00:06:11,104 THEY WOULD ATTEND THIS SCHOOL LIKE A HIGH SCHOOL 87 00:06:11,103 --> 00:06:16,833 AND THEY WOULD LEARN TO FIND A VOCATION AT THE SAME TIME. 88 00:06:16,827 --> 00:06:20,237 MY ASSUMPTION WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE STRICT RULES 89 00:06:20,241 --> 00:06:24,141 AND REGULATIONS, LIKE A MINI MILITARY CAMP OF SORTS, 90 00:06:24,137 --> 00:06:27,477 YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY WERE MONITORED AND WATCHED, YOU KNOW, 91 00:06:27,482 --> 00:06:30,072 BUT ALSO ENCOURAGED TO GROW 92 00:06:30,068 --> 00:06:33,788 AND TO DEVELOP AS A MATURE ADULT. 93 00:06:33,793 --> 00:06:36,383 HE REALLY FELT LIKE IT WAS A GOOD CHANCE, 94 00:06:36,379 --> 00:06:40,409 IT WAS A GROUND ZERO START OVER, MAKE EVERYTHING FRESH, NEW, 95 00:06:40,413 --> 00:06:42,973 WHICH HE REALLY NEEDED FOR HIMSELF. 96 00:06:42,965 --> 00:06:45,375 IF SOMEONE'S GIVING YOU A HARD TIME YOU CALL ME. 97 00:06:45,379 --> 00:06:46,619 - OKAY. - OKAY? 98 00:06:46,620 --> 00:06:48,170 - PROMISE? - I PROMISE. 99 00:06:48,172 --> 00:06:49,342 GIVE ME A HUG. 100 00:06:49,344 --> 00:06:54,034 I TOLD HIM I WAS EXTREMELY SAD 101 00:06:54,034 --> 00:06:57,484 AND HE'S LIKE "MOM, YOU NEED TO STOP WORRYING. 102 00:06:57,482 --> 00:07:02,212 IT'S GONNA BE OKAY, IT'LL BE OKAY." 103 00:07:02,206 --> 00:07:05,996 - I LOVE YOU. - I LOVE YOU, TOO. 104 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,970 AND THEN HE GOT ON THE BUS, THAT WAS IT. 105 00:07:09,965 --> 00:07:12,405 LAST TIME. 106 00:07:17,206 --> 00:07:21,136 MY WORST FEAR ALL THOSE YEARS 107 00:07:21,137 --> 00:07:23,337 WAS, YOU KNOW, HAVING A CHILD 108 00:07:23,344 --> 00:07:25,314 THAT WOULD BE ABDUCTED BY A SEX OFFENDER. 109 00:07:30,620 --> 00:07:35,070 THE MISSION OF JOB CORPS IS TO PROVIDE JOB TRAINING 110 00:07:35,068 --> 00:07:38,378 AND PLACE STUDENTS IN CAREERS 111 00:07:38,379 --> 00:07:40,169 AS A RESULT OF THAT TRAINING. 112 00:07:40,172 --> 00:07:42,592 FOR THAT TO HAPPEN STUDENTS HAVE TO IMPROVE 113 00:07:42,586 --> 00:07:44,856 IN SOCIAL SKILLS AND ACADEMIC SKILLS. 114 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:52,310 WELL, I WAS ALWAYS WORKING WITH YOUNG PEOPLE 115 00:07:52,310 --> 00:07:55,210 IN SOME ASPECT, VOLUNTEER OR NOT. 116 00:07:55,206 --> 00:07:57,966 SO I WAS RECRUITED INTO JOB CORPS 117 00:07:57,965 --> 00:08:01,685 BECAUSE ONE OF THE CENTERS WAS FAILING BADLY 118 00:08:01,689 --> 00:08:04,139 AND THEY ASKED FOR MY HELP. 119 00:08:11,620 --> 00:08:13,210 WALTER, I'll TRADE YOU THIS BROWNIE. 120 00:08:13,206 --> 00:08:15,236 - FOR THAT PUDDING. - ALL RIGHT. 121 00:08:15,241 --> 00:08:18,171 WALTER LIKED PEOPLE, HE HAD A DEGREE OF COMPASSION. 122 00:08:18,172 --> 00:08:22,312 AND STUDENTS LIKED HIM. 123 00:08:22,310 --> 00:08:25,100 WALTER HAD POTENTIAL. 124 00:08:25,103 --> 00:08:26,793 HE'S A KID THAT IF YOU COULD RING 125 00:08:26,793 --> 00:08:30,343 THE RIGHT BELL WITH THEM MIGHT DO WELL. 126 00:08:30,344 --> 00:08:32,384 AND HIS AGE GAVE HIM A LOT OF HOPE, TOO, 127 00:08:32,379 --> 00:08:35,719 HE WAS YOUNG AND HE SEEMED BRIGHT. 128 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,240 SUNDAY MORNING AT ABOUT 10:00 A.M. 129 00:08:47,241 --> 00:08:51,411 THERE WAS A YOUNG LADY, EMMA, THAT CAME TO MEET ME 130 00:08:51,413 --> 00:08:53,593 AND SHE ASKED ME IF I KNEW 131 00:08:53,586 --> 00:08:56,546 WHERE WALTER ACKERSON WAS AND I SAID, 132 00:08:56,551 --> 00:08:59,621 "I DON'T, I'VE BEEN GONE FOR A COUPLE DAYS." 133 00:08:59,620 --> 00:09:01,340 AND SHE BEGAN TO TELL ME THE STORY 134 00:09:01,344 --> 00:09:05,074 ABOUT HIM BEING GONE SINCE FRIDAY. 135 00:09:05,068 --> 00:09:06,858 HE MUST BE SOMEWHERE AROUND CAMPUS. 136 00:09:06,862 --> 00:09:09,032 NO, I'VE LOOKED EVERYWHERE. 137 00:09:09,034 --> 00:09:10,144 REALLY? 138 00:09:10,137 --> 00:09:11,547 EMMA BELIEVED SHE SHOULD KNOW. 139 00:09:11,551 --> 00:09:13,901 WHERE HE WAS, THEY WERE FRIENDS. 140 00:09:13,896 --> 00:09:17,756 AT JOB CORPS EVERY SHIFT AT SOME POINT WAS 141 00:09:17,758 --> 00:09:20,928 REQUIRED TO ACCOUNT FOR EVERY STUDENT, 142 00:09:20,931 --> 00:09:23,451 IF THEY WERE IN A CLASSROOM 143 00:09:23,448 --> 00:09:25,208 THE INSTRUCTOR ACCOUNTED FOR 'EM. 144 00:09:25,206 --> 00:09:30,066 IN THE EVENINGS THE RESIDENTIAL ADVISORS ACCOUNTED FOR THEM. 145 00:09:30,068 --> 00:09:33,518 AND FOR TWO NIGHTS, THE PERSON THAT ACTUALLY CHECKED 146 00:09:33,517 --> 00:09:37,097 HIS BED MARKED THAT HE WAS NOT PRESENT. 147 00:09:44,793 --> 00:09:48,073 I WAS WONDERING IF YOU GUYS HAD SEEN WALTER LATELY? 148 00:09:48,068 --> 00:09:51,548 ONE OF MY FRIENDS TOLD ME THAT HE WAS DOWN BY THE LIQUOR STORE. 149 00:09:51,551 --> 00:09:53,691 BY SUNDAY EVENING, I KNOW ABSOLUTELY THAT 150 00:09:53,689 --> 00:09:59,069 WALTER IS NOT ON CAMPUS AND WAS SEEN WITH TWO ADULT MALES 151 00:09:59,068 --> 00:10:03,758 WHO WERE NOT STUDENTS LEAVING A LIQUOR STORE 152 00:10:03,758 --> 00:10:07,658 AND WALKING TOWARDS NYE BEACH. 153 00:10:07,655 --> 00:10:09,445 MY IMPRESSION OF NYE BEACH WAS A LOT OF 154 00:10:09,448 --> 00:10:14,448 ALCOHOL AND SMOKING WEED AND PROBABLY OTHER DRUGS. 155 00:10:14,448 --> 00:10:17,548 I WAS CONCERNED BY THE STORY. 156 00:10:17,551 --> 00:10:21,411 HE JUST DIDN'T STRIKE ME AS HE WAS HARDCORE ENOUGH. 157 00:10:21,413 --> 00:10:24,033 THAT IMAGE OF HIM BEING WITH THE TWO ADULT MALES IN THE DARK 158 00:10:24,034 --> 00:10:26,524 WALKING TO NYE BEACH WAS THE IMAGE 159 00:10:26,517 --> 00:10:29,027 I KEPT IN MY HEAD ALL THOSE YEARS. 160 00:10:29,034 --> 00:10:30,214 WHY DON'T WE TAKE A WALK, LITTLE MAN? 161 00:10:30,206 --> 00:10:32,306 - OKAY. - HOW 'BOUT THAT? 162 00:10:32,310 --> 00:10:34,450 THAT'S THE PART THAT HAUNTED ME, THAT WHATEVER 163 00:10:34,448 --> 00:10:37,688 HAPPENED FROM THAT POINT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN GOOD. 164 00:10:50,379 --> 00:10:54,449 THE WAY I APPROACH THE ABSENCE OF A KID. 165 00:10:54,448 --> 00:10:57,478 IS THAT I PRETEND 166 00:10:57,482 --> 00:11:02,172 LIKE I'M THE PARENT LOOKING FOR THEM AND HOW IT FEELS. 167 00:11:02,172 --> 00:11:04,972 WELL, IT WAS A MYSTERY THAT HAD TO BE SOLVED 168 00:11:04,965 --> 00:11:07,135 'CAUSE SOMEBODY'S LIFE DEPENDED ON IT. 169 00:11:17,172 --> 00:11:21,212 IN THE EVENING, STUDENTS DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO 170 00:11:21,206 --> 00:11:23,996 BE IN A PARTICULAR PLACE UNTIL CURFEW. 171 00:11:31,689 --> 00:11:36,069 ONE VERSION OF THE STORY THE STUDENT SAW WALTER 172 00:11:36,068 --> 00:11:39,658 COME OUT OF THE LIQUOR STORE WITH TWO ADULTS THAT 173 00:11:39,655 --> 00:11:43,715 WERE NOT STUDENTS AND WALKED DOWN TO NYE BEACH. 174 00:11:55,965 --> 00:11:58,135 SO HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN WALTER LATELY? 175 00:11:58,137 --> 00:11:59,997 A FEW NIGHTS AGO. DOWN AT THE SHORE. 176 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,830 - AT THE BEACH. - YEAH. 177 00:12:01,827 --> 00:12:03,587 THE THREE MALE STUDENTS, 178 00:12:03,586 --> 00:12:06,136 THEY ADMITTED THAT THEY HAD BEEN WITH WALTER 179 00:12:06,137 --> 00:12:09,377 AT NYE BEACH ON FRIDAY NIGHT. 180 00:12:09,379 --> 00:12:12,859 THEY MET SOME GIRLS AND THEY WERE TOSSING FOOTBALL WITH THEM 181 00:12:12,862 --> 00:12:16,412 AND THAT WALTER SCARED THESE GIRLS OFF. 182 00:12:16,413 --> 00:12:21,413 HE WAS SO ANNOYING THAT THESE GIRLS DECIDED TO LEAVE. 183 00:12:21,413 --> 00:12:23,343 - THAT WASN'T COOL MAN. - WHAT? 184 00:12:23,344 --> 00:12:28,384 AND THEY BECAME ANGRY AND DITCHED WALTER. 185 00:12:28,379 --> 00:12:30,619 AND THAT WAS THE LAST TIME THAT THEY SAW HIM. 186 00:12:45,551 --> 00:12:46,791 HELLO, THIS IS KAREN. 187 00:12:46,793 --> 00:12:49,313 THE PERSON THAT CALLED SAID TO ME, 188 00:12:49,310 --> 00:12:52,790 "WHAT ARE WALTER'S PLANS?" 189 00:12:52,793 --> 00:12:54,833 I STOPPED FOR A MOMENT CAUSE I'M LIKE, 190 00:12:54,827 --> 00:12:58,097 WHY WOULD I KNOW MORE THAN YOU DO ABOUT HIS PLANS? 191 00:12:58,103 --> 00:12:59,343 IS WHAT YOU'RE THINKING. 192 00:12:59,344 --> 00:13:00,904 WHAT DO YOU MEAN? 193 00:13:00,896 --> 00:13:03,686 I SAID, "WHY WOULDN'T YOU JUST ASK HIM?" 194 00:13:03,689 --> 00:13:08,859 AND THE PERSON GOES, "WALTER'S NOT HERE, HE'S AWOL." 195 00:13:08,862 --> 00:13:12,282 AND I'M LIKE, "I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING", 196 00:13:12,275 --> 00:13:14,585 "ARE YOU TELLING ME HE'S MISSING? 197 00:13:14,586 --> 00:13:15,756 HAVE YOU CALLED THE POLICE?" 198 00:13:33,931 --> 00:13:37,861 WE WALKED IN, THE DIRECTOR IS SITTING BEHIND THE DESK 199 00:13:37,862 --> 00:13:43,342 AND HE SAYS, "THESE BOYS WILL TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED." 200 00:13:43,344 --> 00:13:46,314 AND THE STORY THAT THEY TELL IS THAT 201 00:13:46,310 --> 00:13:49,660 THEY WENT TO NYE BEACH, 202 00:13:49,655 --> 00:13:52,925 WALTER HAD BEEN DRINKING EXCESSIVELY 203 00:13:52,931 --> 00:13:58,141 AND WENT UP A LEDGE UP ABOVE. 204 00:13:58,137 --> 00:14:01,997 AND WHEN THEY WENT TO GET HIM TO GO BACK HE WAS JUST GONE. 205 00:14:12,344 --> 00:14:16,174 OF COURSE, I'M THINKING SOMETHING TERRIBLE HAS HAPPENED, 206 00:14:16,172 --> 00:14:18,452 SOMETHING REALLY BAD HAS HAPPENED. 207 00:14:18,448 --> 00:14:21,828 HE'S BEEN ABDUCTED BY A CHILD MOLESTER. 208 00:14:21,827 --> 00:14:25,517 SOMEBODY HAD TO HAVE TAKEN HIM. 209 00:14:25,517 --> 00:14:29,687 ONE OF THE BOYS LOOKED AT ME AND SAID, "I'M SO SORRY." 210 00:14:33,344 --> 00:14:36,414 IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. 211 00:14:36,413 --> 00:14:37,903 AND THEN THAT WAS THE END OF IT. 212 00:14:46,275 --> 00:14:50,235 I WENT TO THE POLICE AND TOLD THEM THAT I WANTED TO 213 00:14:50,241 --> 00:14:54,031 FILE A MISSING PERSONS REPORT IMMEDIATELY. 214 00:14:54,034 --> 00:14:55,624 I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO NEXT. 215 00:14:55,620 --> 00:14:58,550 - DO I WAIT? - THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. 216 00:14:58,551 --> 00:14:59,971 TEENAGERS RUN AWAY, THEY COME BACK. 217 00:14:59,965 --> 00:15:02,205 IN THEIR MIND, HE JUST RAN OFF 218 00:15:02,206 --> 00:15:06,136 AND HE WAS BOUND TO SURFACE AT SOME POINT. 219 00:15:06,137 --> 00:15:08,337 POLICE HAD BEEN TELLING ME, YOU KNOW, 220 00:15:08,344 --> 00:15:11,074 "HE'S A RUNAWAY, YOU'RE A HYSTERICAL MOTHER. 221 00:15:11,068 --> 00:15:12,688 "HE JUST WANTS TO DO HIS OWN THING 222 00:15:12,689 --> 00:15:16,309 AND HE DOESN'T WANT TO HAVE RULES AND REGULATIONS." 223 00:15:16,310 --> 00:15:18,170 THIS ISN'T LIKE HIM. 224 00:15:18,172 --> 00:15:21,032 WE WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. 225 00:15:21,034 --> 00:15:24,174 IT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE THAT HE WOULD JUST VANISH 226 00:15:24,172 --> 00:15:26,552 INTO THIN AIR WITHOUT A PHONE CALL TO ANYONE. 227 00:15:26,551 --> 00:15:28,281 IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE. 228 00:15:28,275 --> 00:15:30,275 OKAY. 229 00:15:30,275 --> 00:15:32,475 WE JUST WANTED TO GET THE POLICE INVOLVED 230 00:15:32,482 --> 00:15:33,832 SO THAT WE COULD FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED, 231 00:15:33,827 --> 00:15:36,657 WHERE IS HE, WHY HAVEN'T WE HEARD FROM HIM? 232 00:15:38,379 --> 00:15:40,829 BUT NO ONE EVER CALLED. 233 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,660 IT HAD BEEN FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS. 234 00:15:58,655 --> 00:16:02,825 AND THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT CONNECTED THIS 235 00:16:02,827 --> 00:16:06,027 PEDOPHILE FORM ALABAMA TO OUR AREA AT THE TIME. 236 00:16:09,551 --> 00:16:13,551 I DIDN'T CALL KAREN RIGHT WHEN THAT LEAD FIZZLED, 237 00:16:13,551 --> 00:16:17,971 THIS IS WHAT KAREN WANTED FOR 14 YEARS, YOU KNOW, 238 00:16:17,965 --> 00:16:22,615 TO HAVE THIS CASE LOOKED INTO AND EXPLORED FURTHER 239 00:16:22,620 --> 00:16:27,860 AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO. 240 00:16:27,862 --> 00:16:30,282 BACK IN 1990, THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS 241 00:16:30,275 --> 00:16:32,855 INTERVIEWED AT THE TIME WAS TROY CULVER. 242 00:16:34,931 --> 00:16:39,311 NO STATEMENT WAS TAKEN FROM THE OTHER KIDS. 243 00:16:39,310 --> 00:16:41,550 THE INITIAL INVESTIGATORS IN THIS, THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE, 244 00:16:41,551 --> 00:16:43,901 I KNEW THEM, THEY MENTORED ME WHEN I STARTED 245 00:16:43,896 --> 00:16:46,616 AND THEY DID VERY GOOD THINGS IN THEIR CAREER. 246 00:16:46,620 --> 00:16:50,380 BUT THE BALL GOT DROPPED ON THIS AND IT'S A SHAME. 247 00:16:50,379 --> 00:16:53,239 SOMETHING HAPPENED TO WALTER, HE'S NOT WITH US ANYMORE. 248 00:16:53,241 --> 00:16:55,691 THOSE WERE THE LAST GUYS THAT SAW HIM ALIVE, 249 00:16:55,689 --> 00:16:56,789 THEY HOLD THE KEY. 250 00:17:04,517 --> 00:17:06,377 I NEEDED TO FIND THESE PEOPLE AND TALK TO 'EM, 251 00:17:06,379 --> 00:17:09,479 FOUND OUT WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY. 252 00:17:09,482 --> 00:17:13,522 SO THE FIRST PERSON I TALKED TO WAS ERIC FORSGREN 253 00:17:13,517 --> 00:17:17,447 AND THAT INTERVIEW BASICALLY RESULTED 254 00:17:17,448 --> 00:17:21,168 IN A VERY SIMILAR STATEMENT 255 00:17:21,172 --> 00:17:23,412 TO WHAT TROY CULVER HAD ORIGINALLY GIVEN BACK IN 1990. 256 00:17:23,413 --> 00:17:26,213 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 257 00:17:26,206 --> 00:17:29,996 GEOFFREY CALLIGAN, HE WAS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO 258 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,760 GET A HOLD OF, HE WAS CURRENTLY IN THE NATIONAL GUARD. 259 00:17:32,758 --> 00:17:35,968 BUT CALLIGAN WAS INTERVIEWED 260 00:17:35,965 --> 00:17:38,825 AND BASICALLY THE SAME RESULT CAME FROM THERE. 261 00:17:38,827 --> 00:17:41,587 - THERE WAS NOBODY ELSE THERE? - NO. 262 00:17:41,586 --> 00:17:43,276 IT WAS VERY DISAPPOINTING. 263 00:17:43,275 --> 00:17:44,545 YOU HAVE YOUR HOPES UP A LITTLE BIT, 264 00:17:44,551 --> 00:17:46,661 THINKING MAYBE THIS'LL BE THE ONE. 265 00:17:46,655 --> 00:17:48,715 THIS'LL BE THE STONE, I CAN KICK THIS ONE OVER 266 00:17:48,724 --> 00:17:51,834 AND I'll HAVE SOMETHING HERE AND THEN IT'S A DEAD END. 267 00:17:54,931 --> 00:17:57,831 THE LAST THING I HAD WAS TO GO TALK TO TROY, 268 00:17:57,827 --> 00:18:01,967 THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS INTERVIEWED BACK IN 1990. 269 00:18:01,965 --> 00:18:04,785 TROY ANSWERED THE DOOR AND I SAID, 270 00:18:04,793 --> 00:18:07,313 "I'M FOLLOWING UP ON THE WALTER ACKERSON 271 00:18:07,310 --> 00:18:09,340 MISSING PERSON CASE." 272 00:18:09,344 --> 00:18:14,484 AND IT ALMOST LOOKED LIKE I THREW WATER IN HIS FACE. 273 00:18:14,482 --> 00:18:16,312 HIS WHOLE DEMEANOR CHANGED 274 00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:19,280 AND HE JUST KIND OF STARED THROUGH ME THERE. 275 00:18:19,275 --> 00:18:20,545 I ASKED HIM I COULD TALK TO HIM 276 00:18:20,551 --> 00:18:25,031 AND HE SAID, "YEAH, WOW, OKAY." 277 00:18:25,034 --> 00:18:29,104 AND HE SAT DOWN WITH ME ON THE FRONT PORCH. 278 00:18:29,103 --> 00:18:31,723 CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY? 279 00:18:31,724 --> 00:18:34,244 IT WAS APPARENT THAT WHAT I WAS TALKING TO HIM ABOUT 280 00:18:34,241 --> 00:18:38,281 WAS IMPORTANT TO HIM BUT HIS MIND WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE. 281 00:18:38,275 --> 00:18:42,335 IT WAS ALMOST DEALING WITH A PERSON WHO WAS IN TRAUMA. 282 00:18:42,344 --> 00:18:45,034 SO I SAID, "TROY, YOU'RE DISTRACTED" 283 00:18:45,034 --> 00:18:47,624 "AND I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE 284 00:18:47,620 --> 00:18:49,070 "EXPERIENCE TRAUMATIC THINGS 285 00:18:49,068 --> 00:18:51,308 "AND THAT IT PLAYS LIKE A MOVIE CLIP IN THEIR MIND, 286 00:18:51,310 --> 00:18:54,000 "AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 287 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,410 AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS." 288 00:18:56,413 --> 00:18:59,793 AND HE SAID, "NO, NOTHING LIKE THAT." 289 00:18:59,793 --> 00:19:04,343 I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. HE JUST VANISHED. 290 00:19:04,344 --> 00:19:07,314 UNFORTUNATELY, THE STUFF I GOT WASN'T REALLY ANYTHING 291 00:19:07,310 --> 00:19:11,310 SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT TO WHAT TROY HAD GIVEN BACK IN 1990. 292 00:19:11,310 --> 00:19:14,310 SO THE PROBLEM I HAD IS I JUST DIDN'T KNOW 293 00:19:14,310 --> 00:19:18,240 WHERE ELSE TO GO WITH THIS. 294 00:19:18,241 --> 00:19:21,551 I HAD TO MOVE ON. 295 00:19:30,275 --> 00:19:34,405 I KNOW I DIDN'T GET EVERYTHING FROM TROY. 296 00:19:34,413 --> 00:19:37,383 THERE WAS SOMETHING THERE AND I DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT 297 00:19:37,379 --> 00:19:41,309 IT WAS BUT I SUSPECTED HE HAD INFORMATION ON WALTER. 298 00:19:41,310 --> 00:19:42,590 SOMETHING. 299 00:19:55,344 --> 00:19:57,764 WALTER WAS LIKED BY PEOPLE, 300 00:19:57,758 --> 00:20:00,208 INCLUDING THE STAFF. 301 00:20:00,206 --> 00:20:04,276 HE WAS A GOOD KID AND HE STRUCK ME AS VULNERABLE. 302 00:20:04,275 --> 00:20:07,965 OUR VIEW OF STUDENTS WHO LEFT ON THEIR OWN WAS THAT THEY 303 00:20:07,965 --> 00:20:12,375 WERE RUNAWAYS BUT STUDENTS THAT JUST DECIDED TO LEAVE 304 00:20:12,379 --> 00:20:18,099 JOB CORPS HAD A PATTERN TO HOW THEY DID THINGS. 305 00:20:18,103 --> 00:20:21,173 WALTER DIDN'T FIT THE PATTERN OF RUNAWAYS AT ALL. 306 00:20:21,172 --> 00:20:24,862 HIS STUFF WAS THERE AND HIS BEST FRIEND, 307 00:20:24,862 --> 00:20:27,342 THIS GIRL, DIDN'T KNOW WHERE HE WAS. 308 00:20:27,344 --> 00:20:30,104 IF HE'S A RUNAWAY SHE CLEARLY WOULD HAVE KNOWN WHERE HE WAS 309 00:20:30,103 --> 00:20:31,483 AND SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN RELUCTANT 310 00:20:31,482 --> 00:20:35,002 TO TELL ME WHERE HE WAS. 311 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,660 WELL, IT WAS CATASTROPHIC FAILURE. 312 00:20:37,655 --> 00:20:43,405 THERE WAS A FAILURE TO IDENTIFY THAT WALTER WAS GONE. 313 00:20:43,413 --> 00:20:48,173 IT WAS CONVENIENT TO BELIEVE HE LEFT ON HIS OWN. 314 00:20:48,172 --> 00:20:50,412 THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME, THAT HE WOULD DO THAT. 315 00:20:54,931 --> 00:20:57,591 IT WAS THE SENIOR COUNSELOR 316 00:20:57,586 --> 00:21:01,096 THAT CALLED THE POLICE. 317 00:21:01,103 --> 00:21:03,283 THE CENTER DIRECTOR ASKED ME 318 00:21:03,275 --> 00:21:06,165 TO SIT DOWN WITH THE DETECTIVES. 319 00:21:06,172 --> 00:21:10,342 THEY CAME ON CAMPUS AND INTERVIEWED ME. 320 00:21:10,344 --> 00:21:13,244 EVERYBODY SEEMED TO LIKE HIM, HE WAS A GOOD KID. 321 00:21:13,241 --> 00:21:16,411 I FULLY EXPECTED THAT THE NEXT THING THEY WERE GONNA DO 322 00:21:16,413 --> 00:21:20,143 WAS TRY TO IDENTIFY WHO WALTER WAS WITH 323 00:21:20,137 --> 00:21:22,897 AND THAT WAS VERY PAINFUL 324 00:21:22,896 --> 00:21:27,096 BECAUSE HE WAS OUR LOSS. 325 00:21:27,103 --> 00:21:29,723 HE WAS A RESULT OF THINGS WE DID 326 00:21:29,724 --> 00:21:34,004 OR DIDN'T DO AND I WAS A PART OF THAT. 327 00:21:44,793 --> 00:21:48,383 I WOULD HAVE DREAMS WHERE HE WOULD BE LIKE, 328 00:21:48,379 --> 00:21:51,099 "YOU'RE NOT LOOKING HARD ENOUGH." 329 00:21:51,103 --> 00:21:53,553 OR JUST... 330 00:21:53,551 --> 00:21:57,591 IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY HAUNTING. 331 00:21:57,586 --> 00:22:02,096 I THINK I WAS TORN BETWEEN FINDING OUT THAT SOMETHING 332 00:22:02,103 --> 00:22:05,073 REALLY AWFUL HAD HAPPENED 333 00:22:05,068 --> 00:22:08,548 OR LIVING WITH NO KNOWLEDGE 334 00:22:08,551 --> 00:22:10,721 OF WHAT HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, 335 00:22:10,724 --> 00:22:14,144 WHICH WAS GOING TO BE WORSE FOR ME? 336 00:22:14,137 --> 00:22:16,337 PERHAPS I DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW IF IT WAS AWFUL, 337 00:22:16,344 --> 00:22:18,934 THAT I HAD TO KNOW THAT MY CHILD SUFFERED. 338 00:22:32,379 --> 00:22:35,069 BEFORE WE GET TO THE DIRECTOR'S OFFICE 339 00:22:35,068 --> 00:22:38,618 A YOUNG LADY APPROACHES US. 340 00:22:38,620 --> 00:22:41,030 MRS. HULL. 341 00:22:41,034 --> 00:22:42,284 YES? 342 00:22:42,275 --> 00:22:44,895 THERE'S SOMETHING I NEED TO TELL YOU. 343 00:22:44,896 --> 00:22:46,856 SHE SAYS HER NAME IS EMMA, 344 00:22:46,862 --> 00:22:50,452 SHE SAYS SHE WAS WALTER'S GIRLFRIEND AND SHE SAYS, 345 00:22:50,448 --> 00:22:51,968 "I HEARD THEY GOT IN A FIGHT 346 00:22:51,965 --> 00:22:53,995 AND I HEARD THEY THREW HIM IN A CREEK." 347 00:22:57,965 --> 00:23:00,275 SHE TALKED AS FAST AS SHE COULD, 348 00:23:00,275 --> 00:23:04,025 WHISPERING, AND SHE RAN. 349 00:23:04,034 --> 00:23:08,794 SHE RAN AWAY. 350 00:23:08,793 --> 00:23:13,343 OH, MY GOD, SOMEBODY'S DONE SOMETHING TO WALTER AND THIS 351 00:23:13,344 --> 00:23:18,484 LITTLE GIRL KNOWS ABOUT IT AND SOMEBODY'S LYING SOMEWHERE. 352 00:23:18,482 --> 00:23:21,342 MAYBE SOMEONE KILLED HIM, 353 00:23:21,344 --> 00:23:23,794 MAYBE THEY THREW HIM IN A CREEK, 354 00:23:23,793 --> 00:23:27,623 AND MAYBE HE DROWNED. 355 00:23:27,620 --> 00:23:31,550 NOW WE'RE AT THE POINT, WE HAVE A WHOLE NEW STORY 356 00:23:31,551 --> 00:23:34,101 AND NOW YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, NOW THE POLICE HAVE TO 357 00:23:34,103 --> 00:23:36,723 INVESTIGATE, THEY HAVE TO TALK TO EMMA, RIGHT? 358 00:23:36,724 --> 00:23:40,004 THEY NEED TO TALK TO EMMA. 359 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,100 WE LEFT, WE WENT TO THE POLICE. 360 00:23:42,103 --> 00:23:44,073 WE TOLD THEM THE WHOLE STORY. 361 00:23:44,068 --> 00:23:46,408 THAT THERE WAS THIS NEW INFORMATION, 362 00:23:46,413 --> 00:23:50,003 THAT SOMEONE HAD BEAT HIM UP AND THREW HIM IN A CREEK. 363 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,930 CAN YOU PLEASE JUST GO AND LOOK INTO THIS, PLEASE? 364 00:23:52,931 --> 00:23:55,931 THERE'S NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT HER STORY. 365 00:23:55,931 --> 00:23:58,721 THEY DID NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS ANY TRUTH. 366 00:23:58,724 --> 00:24:02,524 TO THE STORY THAT THE YOUNG LADY HAD TOLD US. 367 00:24:02,517 --> 00:24:04,137 IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. 368 00:24:04,137 --> 00:24:06,547 I'll NEVER FORGET THIS AS LONG AS I LIVE. 369 00:24:06,551 --> 00:24:10,071 THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A DROWNING IN OUR AREA 370 00:24:10,068 --> 00:24:14,448 WHERE THE BODY HAS NOT WASHED UP. 371 00:24:14,448 --> 00:24:15,758 "NEVER." 372 00:24:15,758 --> 00:24:18,898 THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THAT GENTLEMAN SAID. 373 00:24:18,896 --> 00:24:21,786 I THINK THEY TRULY BELIEVED 374 00:24:21,793 --> 00:24:25,383 THAT IT WAS A RUNAWAY 375 00:24:25,379 --> 00:24:29,409 AND I WOULD BE WASTING THEIR TIME HAVING THEM INVESTIGATE. 376 00:24:38,034 --> 00:24:42,244 WE WENT UP THE COASTLINES AND WE POSTED THEM IN 377 00:24:42,241 --> 00:24:46,691 GAS STATIONS, GROCERY STORES, ANY PLACE THAT ALLOWED US TO 378 00:24:46,689 --> 00:24:49,409 PUT THEM UP, WHICH MOST OF THEM WERE ACTUALLY VERY KIND 379 00:24:49,413 --> 00:24:53,833 ABOUT THAT, TRYING TO COVER THE WHOLE WASHINGTON COAST IN 380 00:24:53,827 --> 00:24:55,857 THE EVENT THAT, YOU KNOW, 381 00:24:55,862 --> 00:24:58,902 ANYONE HAD SEEN ANYTHING ALONG THE WAY. 382 00:25:07,448 --> 00:25:11,858 NOTHING, NEVER, NOT ONE WORD. 383 00:25:21,482 --> 00:25:24,692 IF I TRIED TO TALK ABOUT IT I WOULD BREAK DOWN 384 00:25:24,689 --> 00:25:27,279 AND I WOULD START CRYING 385 00:25:27,275 --> 00:25:31,655 AND SO, I COULDN'T LIVE THAT WAY 386 00:25:31,655 --> 00:25:35,755 WHEN I HAD TO KEEP MOVING, I HAD KIDS TO TAKE CARE OF. 387 00:25:35,758 --> 00:25:39,968 I HAD THINGS TO DO AND SO I JUST 388 00:25:39,965 --> 00:25:43,475 DIDN'T DISCUSS IT WITH ANYONE. 389 00:25:43,482 --> 00:25:48,412 BUT... 390 00:25:48,413 --> 00:25:50,593 I PRAYED FOR HIS RETURN. 391 00:25:55,241 --> 00:25:58,031 IT'S ALWAYS THERE, 392 00:25:58,034 --> 00:26:02,074 IT NEVER GOES AWAY NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO. 393 00:26:02,068 --> 00:26:05,518 THERE'S JUST SO MANY LITTLE TRIGGERS IN THE WORLD. 394 00:26:05,517 --> 00:26:08,787 YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY, "HOW MANY CHILDREN DO YOU HAVE?" 395 00:26:08,793 --> 00:26:12,143 AND YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY THREE BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE 396 00:26:12,137 --> 00:26:16,407 TO EXPLAIN WHY THERE'S ONLY TWO. 397 00:26:16,413 --> 00:26:19,663 AND SO YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT IT, YOU DON'T TELL ANYONE. 398 00:26:22,379 --> 00:26:24,899 SORRY. 399 00:26:43,758 --> 00:26:47,968 I GOT A CALL FROM A LIEUTENANT OVER IN PRINEVILLE, WASHINGTON 400 00:26:47,965 --> 00:26:51,855 AND HE IS SAYING THAT A GUY HAS WALKED IN THERE 401 00:26:51,862 --> 00:26:55,832 AND WANTS TO CONFESS TO A MURDER THAT OCCURRED HERE, 402 00:26:55,827 --> 00:26:59,587 THE MURDER OF WALTER ACKERSON. 403 00:26:59,586 --> 00:27:01,476 AND HE TOLD ME THE GUY'S NAME AND I SAID, 404 00:27:01,482 --> 00:27:02,902 "OH, YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING, 405 00:27:02,896 --> 00:27:05,166 I KNOW THAT CASE, I KNOW THAT GUY." 406 00:27:05,172 --> 00:27:08,692 I'll BE RIGHT THERE. 407 00:27:08,689 --> 00:27:10,339 I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO WALTER 408 00:27:10,344 --> 00:27:12,004 AND I KNEW I WAS GONNA FIND OUT. 409 00:27:25,379 --> 00:27:29,139 A MAN HAD WALKED INTO THE PRINEVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT 410 00:27:29,137 --> 00:27:33,827 AND WANTED TO CONFESS TO A MURDER IN 1990. 411 00:27:33,827 --> 00:27:37,517 THE MAN CONFESSING TO WALTER'S MURDER WAS TROY CULVER. 412 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,760 WHEN I WAS THINKING BACK TO 2004 WHEN I TALKED TO HIM, 413 00:27:51,758 --> 00:27:54,658 I KNEW FROM THE INTERVIEW I HAD WITH HIM 414 00:27:54,655 --> 00:27:57,445 THAT THERE WAS MORE THERE. 415 00:27:57,448 --> 00:28:01,898 HE WAS WATCHING HIMSELF DO WHAT HE DID TO WALTER ACKERSON 416 00:28:01,896 --> 00:28:07,446 IN HIS MIND AND IT WAS NEVER GONNA GO AWAY. 417 00:28:07,448 --> 00:28:11,168 HE WASN'T READY TO TELL ME BUT HE WAS READY TO TELL ME NOW. 418 00:29:00,896 --> 00:29:07,096 TROY SAID HE BEGAN A VICIOUS, UNPROVOKED ATTACK 419 00:29:07,103 --> 00:29:10,623 ON WALTER, WHO DID NOT DEFEND HIMSELF. 420 00:29:10,620 --> 00:29:14,240 TO THE POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WALTER LOST CONSCIOUSNESS 421 00:29:14,241 --> 00:29:16,311 ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. 422 00:30:00,275 --> 00:30:02,335 WE FINALLY GOT THE CONFESSION, 423 00:30:02,344 --> 00:30:05,724 BUT NOW IT WAS ALMOST UNBELIEVABLE. 424 00:30:05,724 --> 00:30:08,214 I DIDN'T EXPECT IT, BUT IT WAS GREAT. 425 00:30:08,206 --> 00:30:12,966 IT WAS REALLY GREAT BECAUSE NOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME, 426 00:30:12,965 --> 00:30:15,235 REGARDLESS OF EVERYTHING THAT WENT WRONG, 427 00:30:15,241 --> 00:30:16,901 IT CAN ALL BE RIGHT, WE CAN GET CLOSURE, 428 00:30:16,896 --> 00:30:19,136 WE CAN FIGURE OUT EVERYTHING, WE'VE GOT IT. 429 00:30:25,793 --> 00:30:29,173 I RECEIVED A CALL FROM DETECTIVE MEISTER. 430 00:30:29,172 --> 00:30:32,552 HE SAID, "I'M GOING TO BE IN WASHINGTON", 431 00:30:32,551 --> 00:30:34,661 "AND I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE NICE TO DROP BY 432 00:30:34,655 --> 00:30:36,405 AND MEET YOU." 433 00:30:36,413 --> 00:30:39,173 AND I WAS LIKE, "OH, THAT'S REALLY SWEET OF HIM." 434 00:30:40,517 --> 00:30:42,517 AND THEN, OF COURSE, AFTER I THOUGHT IT OVER, 435 00:30:42,517 --> 00:30:48,237 I'M LIKE, "NO, HE'S PROBABLY NOT JUST COMING", 436 00:30:48,241 --> 00:30:50,831 "YOU KNOW, TO MEET ME. 437 00:30:50,827 --> 00:30:54,337 "HE PROBABLY KNOWS SOMETHING, 438 00:30:54,344 --> 00:30:57,764 AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY FOUND WALTER'S BODY." 439 00:31:02,310 --> 00:31:04,450 YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA TELL YOU SOMETHING 440 00:31:04,448 --> 00:31:08,378 THAT I GUESS YOU NEVER WANNA HEAR. 441 00:31:08,379 --> 00:31:10,339 WE GOT SOME NEW INFORMATION ON THE CASE. 442 00:31:10,344 --> 00:31:14,724 HE EXPLAINED THAT TROY HAD CONFESSED 443 00:31:14,724 --> 00:31:18,624 TO WALTER'S MURDER. 444 00:31:18,620 --> 00:31:22,070 IT WAS SHOCKING TO FIND OUT THAT TROY CULVER 445 00:31:22,068 --> 00:31:26,718 HAD SAT IN THAT ROOM AND GAVE US THE STORY 446 00:31:26,724 --> 00:31:29,344 ABOUT THE NYE BEACH INCIDENT, 447 00:31:29,344 --> 00:31:33,314 WHEN HE WAS ACTUALLY THE ONE 448 00:31:33,310 --> 00:31:36,140 WHO COMMITTED MURDER. 449 00:31:36,137 --> 00:31:37,927 HE CONFESSED? 450 00:31:37,931 --> 00:31:40,311 YES. 451 00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:41,860 THE HARDEST THING IN THE WHOLE WORLD 452 00:31:41,862 --> 00:31:46,792 IS TO REALIZE THAT WHEN HE SAID, "I'M SO SORRY," 453 00:31:46,793 --> 00:31:49,833 HE DIDN'T MEAN, "I'M SO SORRY BECAUSE I NEGLECTED 454 00:31:49,827 --> 00:31:51,307 TO WATCH AFTER YOUR SON," 455 00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:55,030 HE'S LIKE, "I'M SO SORRY 'CAUSE I KILLED HIM," YOU KNOW? 456 00:32:00,034 --> 00:32:01,764 AND I SAID, "IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT." 457 00:32:04,551 --> 00:32:08,481 AND ALL THE TIME, HE KNEW IT WAS. 458 00:32:08,482 --> 00:32:10,102 HE KNEW. 459 00:33:10,034 --> 00:33:11,794 THE HARDEST PART WAS THEY SAID THAT 460 00:33:11,793 --> 00:33:14,243 HE WAS CRYING AND, YOU KNOW, BLUBBERING. 461 00:33:14,241 --> 00:33:17,451 WELL, OF COURSE, HE IS, YOU'RE BEATING HIM UP. 462 00:33:17,448 --> 00:33:22,098 MY GOD, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE SUBSTANTIALLY BIGGER 463 00:33:22,103 --> 00:33:24,663 THAN HE IS, HE'S JUST A LITTLE, I MEAN, 464 00:33:24,655 --> 00:33:27,855 EVEN THOUGH HE'S 16 OF AGE, IN STATURE, 465 00:33:27,862 --> 00:33:30,412 HE'S JUST A LITTLE KID, RIGHT? 466 00:33:30,413 --> 00:33:34,663 HE'S JUST A LITTLE KID. 467 00:33:34,655 --> 00:33:39,785 TO KNOW THAT HE SUFFERED WAS REALLY, REALLY, REALLY HARD. 468 00:33:39,793 --> 00:33:43,523 YOU JUST WANT THEM TO PAY FOR THEIR CRIME, AT THAT POINT. 469 00:33:54,689 --> 00:33:59,549 I KNEW THAT WALTER WAS MISSING, 470 00:33:59,551 --> 00:34:02,141 AND I BELIEVED HE WAS MURDERED, 471 00:34:02,137 --> 00:34:04,447 AND NOW I'VE GOT A GUY WHO WAS THERE, 472 00:34:04,448 --> 00:34:07,338 WHEN HE CAME UP MISSING, CONFESSING. 473 00:34:07,344 --> 00:34:11,244 BUT A CONFESSION ALONE, 474 00:34:11,241 --> 00:34:15,101 DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO CONVICT SOMEBODY OF A CRIME. 475 00:34:15,103 --> 00:34:16,863 REQUIRED TO HAVE EVIDENCE OR PROOF 476 00:34:16,862 --> 00:34:18,792 THAT THIS CRIME OCCURRED. 477 00:34:18,793 --> 00:34:20,973 THE DIFFICULTY WAS WE HAD NO EVIDENCE. 478 00:34:33,931 --> 00:34:36,481 THE MAN CONFESSING TO WALTER'S MURDER 479 00:34:36,482 --> 00:34:38,312 WAS TROY CULVER. 480 00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:40,620 HE MADE A POINT TO TELL ME THAT HE ACTED ALONE, 481 00:34:40,620 --> 00:34:43,690 THAT THE OTHER GUYS DIDN'T PARTICIPATE. 482 00:34:43,689 --> 00:34:48,239 BUT A CONFESSION ALONE DOESN'T ALLOW YOU 483 00:34:48,241 --> 00:34:50,661 TO CONVICT SOMEBODY OF A CRIME. 484 00:34:50,655 --> 00:34:52,685 YOU HAVE TO HAVE CORROBORATING INFORMATION 485 00:34:52,689 --> 00:34:56,099 THAT EVEN A CRIME OCCURRED, BUT WE HAD NO EVIDENCE, 486 00:34:56,103 --> 00:34:58,523 SO I NEEDED TO GET THE OTHER PERSPECTIVES. 487 00:35:05,068 --> 00:35:09,138 IF WE COULD GET ONE OR MORE 488 00:35:09,137 --> 00:35:10,687 OF THOSE PEOPLE TO COME TOGETHER 489 00:35:10,689 --> 00:35:14,309 AND TESTIFY AGAINST ANOTHER ONE, 490 00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:16,550 ESSENTIALLY, THAT'S WHAT WE BELIEVED WOULD ALLOW US 491 00:35:16,551 --> 00:35:18,171 TO PROSECUTE THE CASE AND GO FORWARD 492 00:35:18,172 --> 00:35:20,932 AND USE THE CONFESSION OF TROY CULVER. 493 00:36:04,482 --> 00:36:09,102 BOTH OF THEM SAID AT ONE POINT, IT WAS... 494 00:36:09,103 --> 00:36:11,933 IT WAS WAY, WAY OUTTA CONTROL. 495 00:36:11,931 --> 00:36:14,861 THEY HAD NO INTENTION OF IT GOING THAT FAR, 496 00:36:14,862 --> 00:36:16,972 AND TROY WOULD NOT STOP. 497 00:36:36,689 --> 00:36:39,969 WE GAMBLED TO LET THOSE TWO GUYS GET AWAY 498 00:36:39,965 --> 00:36:42,095 WITH WHATEVER THEIR INVOLVEMENT WAS, 499 00:36:42,103 --> 00:36:44,793 SO WE COULD USE THEIR STATEMENTS IN COURT, 500 00:36:44,793 --> 00:36:46,523 ALONG WITH TROY'S CONFESSION, 501 00:36:46,517 --> 00:36:48,827 TO GET THE CONVICTION ON TROY. 502 00:36:48,827 --> 00:36:53,027 WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED, AND IT WORKED. 503 00:36:53,034 --> 00:36:55,554 JUSTICE PREVAILED, 504 00:36:55,551 --> 00:37:00,411 BUT IT WAS A WATERED DOWN VERSION OF JUSTICE. 505 00:37:00,413 --> 00:37:03,313 THE PRIMARY AGGRESSOR WAS PROSECUTED, 506 00:37:03,310 --> 00:37:07,690 BUT WE HAD TO GO BACK TO 1990 507 00:37:07,689 --> 00:37:10,719 STANDARDS IN THE LAW ON PROSECUTION, 508 00:37:10,724 --> 00:37:14,384 WHICH MEANT A MUCH LOWER SENTENCE FOR TROY CULVER. 509 00:37:30,068 --> 00:37:32,028 I DIDN'T HOPE THAT HE WOULD GO TO PRISON 510 00:37:32,034 --> 00:37:35,524 FOR MOST OF HIS LIFE. 511 00:37:35,517 --> 00:37:38,927 BUT I WOULD HAVE NEVER IN MY WILDEST DREAMS 512 00:37:38,931 --> 00:37:42,001 HAVE EVER BELIEVED THAT YOU WOULD GET 10 YEARS 513 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,240 FOR A MURDER, EVER. 514 00:37:47,241 --> 00:37:50,001 I'M NOT THE TYPE WHO SEEKS VENGEANCE, YOU KNOW, 515 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,620 IN SOME FOOLISH WAY. 516 00:37:54,620 --> 00:37:57,410 I GUESS THEIR TIME WILL COME SOME DAY. 517 00:37:57,413 --> 00:38:00,313 THEY'LL HAVE THEIR MAKER TO ANSWER TO. 518 00:38:17,172 --> 00:38:20,102 "DEAR MR. LANTHIER, I'M WRITING TO YOU 519 00:38:20,103 --> 00:38:23,453 "ON BEHALF OF THE DOCUMENTARY SERIES FOR 520 00:38:23,448 --> 00:38:28,408 "INVESTIGATION DISCOVERY, TITLED 'SHATTERED.' 521 00:38:28,413 --> 00:38:31,903 "EACH EPISODE EXPLORES THE IMPACT OF A CRIME, 522 00:38:31,896 --> 00:38:37,236 "AND HOW IT HAS AFFECTED THREE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS. 523 00:38:37,241 --> 00:38:39,341 "OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS, I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING 524 00:38:39,344 --> 00:38:42,594 "THE DEATH OF WALTER ACKERSON, 525 00:38:42,586 --> 00:38:44,826 "WHO WAS A STUDENT AT THE ANGELL JOB CORPS 526 00:38:44,827 --> 00:38:48,617 WHEN YOU ALSO WORKED THERE." 527 00:38:48,620 --> 00:38:50,860 THIS IS HOW I LEARNED ABOUT 528 00:38:50,862 --> 00:38:53,382 HOW IT WAS RESOLVED. 529 00:38:53,379 --> 00:38:56,449 THIS LETTER PRESUMES THAT I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED 530 00:38:56,448 --> 00:39:01,208 TO WALTER, AND I DON'T, I DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL I READ THIS. 531 00:39:01,206 --> 00:39:04,376 THE DAY I GOT THIS, BUT, UM, 532 00:39:04,379 --> 00:39:08,139 PART THAT IT WAS, 533 00:39:08,137 --> 00:39:12,027 A HOMICIDE BY OTHER STUDENTS, 534 00:39:12,034 --> 00:39:15,594 AND THE OTHER STUDENTS PART WAS JUST AS DEVASTATING. 535 00:39:18,620 --> 00:39:24,210 I RETAIN GUILT AND A VERY DEEP SADNESS 536 00:39:24,206 --> 00:39:27,236 BECAUSE I THINK IN MY HEART OF HEARTS, 537 00:39:27,241 --> 00:39:29,901 I ALWAYS KNEW WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM. 538 00:39:29,896 --> 00:39:34,446 JUST NOT THE FACTS. 539 00:39:34,448 --> 00:39:38,098 AND I COULDN'T TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN FOR WHILE. 540 00:39:49,034 --> 00:39:51,594 THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS I LOOK BACK ON, 541 00:39:51,586 --> 00:39:54,756 KIND OF IN A BITTERSWEET WAY. 542 00:39:54,758 --> 00:39:57,588 I WAS ABLE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, I THINK, 543 00:39:57,586 --> 00:40:01,446 AND AT LEAST GET CLOSURE FOR THE FAMILY. 544 00:40:01,448 --> 00:40:03,098 AND THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT, 545 00:40:03,103 --> 00:40:07,383 AND I KNOW IT WAS TO KAREN. 546 00:40:07,379 --> 00:40:11,029 IF YOU HAVE A MISSING LOVED ONE, 547 00:40:11,034 --> 00:40:13,484 ESPECIALLY YOUR CHILD, 548 00:40:13,482 --> 00:40:17,382 AND JUST TO KNOW, WHAT FINALLY HAPPENED 549 00:40:17,379 --> 00:40:20,029 AND THAT YOU CAN GRIEVE, AND YOU CAN KNOW. 550 00:40:36,103 --> 00:40:39,593 THIS IS THE LAST SCHOOL PHOTO THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE. 551 00:40:39,586 --> 00:40:42,686 THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE 10th GRADE. 552 00:40:46,137 --> 00:40:50,587 YEAH, THEY WERE ALL PUT AWAY. 553 00:40:50,586 --> 00:40:55,206 I JUST KEPT THEM IN A BOX. 554 00:40:55,206 --> 00:40:58,276 IF I LOOKED AT HIS PICTURE, I WOULD BREAK DOWN, 555 00:40:58,275 --> 00:41:01,715 SO IT WAS EASIER NOT TO HAVE IT UP. 556 00:41:04,758 --> 00:41:09,238 SO THAT I COULD FUNCTION. 557 00:41:09,241 --> 00:41:12,931 I FELT REALLY BAD ABOUT THAT. 558 00:41:12,931 --> 00:41:16,001 'CAUSE IT FELT LIKE IT WAS HIDING HIM AWAY, 559 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,620 AND NOT EVEN ACKNOWLEDGING THAT HE EXISTED. 560 00:41:22,103 --> 00:41:25,103 AND SO, ONE DAY, I DON'T KNOW WHY, 561 00:41:25,103 --> 00:41:29,903 BUT JUST ONE DAY, I FINALLY GOT HIS THINGS OUT, 562 00:41:29,896 --> 00:41:34,406 AND I DECIDED THAT I HAD TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT 563 00:41:34,413 --> 00:41:38,343 HE WAS PART OF MY LIFE, EVEN IF HE WAS GONE. 564 00:41:41,793 --> 00:41:45,623 AND WHEN YOU LOOK, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ALWAYS SEE 565 00:41:45,620 --> 00:41:47,520 HOW MUCH HE LOVED HIS FAMILY. 566 00:41:47,517 --> 00:41:50,547 HOW IMPORTANT EVERYONE WAS TO HIM. 567 00:41:50,551 --> 00:41:53,971 JUST ALWAYS HUGGING ONE OF THEM. 568 00:41:53,965 --> 00:41:55,655 HE'S A VERY LOVING PERSON. 569 00:42:00,206 --> 00:42:02,826 I THINK I'M BETTER. 570 00:42:02,827 --> 00:42:06,307 I STILL FEEL A HUGE HOLE IN MY HEART, 571 00:42:06,310 --> 00:42:09,930 YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME I LOOK AT HIS PICTURE. 572 00:42:09,931 --> 00:42:12,381 AND I'll ALWAYS MISS HIM, AND I'll ALWAYS WONDER, 573 00:42:12,379 --> 00:42:15,169 YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD HE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW. 574 00:42:15,172 --> 00:42:18,792 WHO WOULD HE BE AS AN ADULT? 575 00:42:18,793 --> 00:42:21,903 BUT I THINK I'VE MADE PEACE, YOU KNOW, 576 00:42:21,896 --> 00:42:25,516 HE'S WITH THE LORD, AND SOMEDAY WE'LL SEE EACH OTHER AGAIN.