Fox: THE HOUSE ITSELF HAD A BAD AND EERIE FEEL TO IT,
AND IT REMINDED ME OF SO MANY SCARY HOUSES
I'VE SEEN ON SCARY MOVIES.
I JUST HADN'T HAD A CASE WHERE SOMEONE HAD BEEN CHOPPED UP
AND MUTILATED LIKE THAT.
WHEN I WAS LEAVING THE PROPERTY, I WAS THINKING TO MYSELF,
"THIS IS GOING TO BE A CASE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO BELIEVE."
♪♪
Fuller: YOU COULD HEAR RIGHT THROUGH THE WALLS.
AND I REMEMBER HEARING THE GUN POP,
AND I REMEMBER HIM TELLING HER
HE WAS GOING TO BLOW HER BRAINS OUT.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHEN, BUT I BELIEVED EVENTUALLY
HE WAS GOING TO GO OVER THE EDGE AND EITHER SHE WAS GOING TO DIE,
OR I WAS GOING TO DIE, OR WE BOTH WERE GOING TO DIE.
♪♪
Davis: I THINK YOU ASKED ME ONE TIME.
HOW LONG AGO WAS RUBEL THE LOVE OF MY LIFE.
HE USED TO BE.
UMM...
[ SIGHS ]
♪♪
BUT NOW I PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT GOES ON AROUND ME, YOU KNOW?
BACK THEN, I DID NOT.
I WANT TO BE SAFE.
THERE'S ALWAYS THAT FEAR
THAT SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET YOU, YOU KNOW?
NEVER LET YOUR KIDS THINK THERE AIN'T A BOOGEYMAN,
'CAUSE THERE IS.
THEY'RE EVERYWHERE.
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♪♪
I WAS SURPRISED.
I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, "OKAY, THIS IS A FLASH FROM THE PAST,"
AND I THOUGHT, "WELL, HMM. THAT WAS A GOOD CASE TO PICK
IF YOU WERE GOING TO PICK A CASE."
♪♪
[ TELEPHONE RINGS ]
YES?
WHEN I RECEIVED THE PHONE CALL, WHAT THE SHERIFF DESCRIBED TO ME
WAS THAT HE HAD A JEFFREY DAHMER CASE.
HE TOLD ME HE HAD BODY PARTS BURNING UP IN HILLSBOROUGH.
AND I SAID, "YOU'RE KIDDING ME."
HE SAID, "NO, REALLY."
SERIOUSLY, YOU NEED TO GET UP HERE AS FAST AS YOU CAN.
ALL RIGHT, I'M ON MY WAY.
I JUST THOUGHT THEY WERE EXAGGERATING THIS.
♪♪
THANKS FOR COMING BY.
WHEN I GOT TO THE FARM,
THERE WAS A TON OF OFFICERS IN THE YARD.
I COULD SEE WHERE THERE WAS SOME SMOKE STILL COMING
FROM WHAT WAS APPARENTLY ASHES.
AND I THOUGHT, "WELL, HMM, THIS IS CURIOUS.
IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE."
♪♪
WHEN I WALKED UP, THE FIRST THING I REMEMBER IS I LOOK DOWN,
AND THERE WAS THE UPPER PORTION OF A TORSO, ABOUT HERE TO HERE.
IT WAS BURNED SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE POINT
YOU COULD SEE THE RIBS.
I SAW WHAT LOOKED LIKE A LUNG, WHAT LOOKED LIKE A HEART,
AND A LIVER SITTING THERE, AND IT WAS JUST CHARRED.
THERE WAS ALSO A SKULL WITH WHAT LOOKED LIKE
A LITTLE BIT OF HAIR ON IT, BUT THE EARS WERE MISSING.
AND I THOUGHT, "WOW."
♪♪
AND WHILE I WAS LOOKING AT THE ORGANS AND THE TORSO THERE,
I SAW SOMETHING IN MY PERIPHERAL VISION...
♪♪
...AND IT WAS A DOG,
AND THE DOG HAD A HAND IN ITS MOUTH.
♪♪
AND I THOUGHT,
"THERE'S SOMETHING YOU DON'T SEE EVERY DAY...
A DOG RUNNING BY WITH A HAND IN ITS MOUTH."
♪♪
AND I THOUGHT, "MAYBE THIS IS GOING TO BE WORSE
THAN EVEN I THOUGHT IT WAS."
♪♪
I MET RUBEL AT CENTRAL PRISON IN RALEIGH.
HE WAS BEHIND THE GLASS.
A FRIEND SET US UP.
♪♪
THEY SHOWED ME A PICTURE OF HIM.
I'M GOING, "WHAT A HANDSOME GUY."
SO, I WENT TO SEE HIM,
AND HE JUST HAD THE BIGGEST GRIN ON HIS FACE.
HE WAS HAPPY TO SEE SOMEONE, I GUESS.
I COULD HAVE BEEN THE UGLIEST THING IN THE WORLD.
I DON'T THINK HE WOULD HAVE CARED.
[ LAUGHS ]
♪♪
IT WAS EXCITING... VERY EXCITING.
HE WAS A BAD BOY TRYING TO CHANGE,
AND WE MADE PLANS.
WE MADE LIFE PLANS.
[ SIGHS ]
WE PLANNED ON A CHILD... A SON.
OH, THIS IS HARD.
♪♪
THE FIRST TIME I MET DAVID,
RUBEL BROUGHT HIM HOME AFTER A ROOFING JOB,
AND HE INTRODUCED HIM AS HIS PRISON BUDDY.
HE SAID, "I KNOW HE'S A LITTLE STRANGE, BUT HE'S HARMLESS."
PAM WAS A WONDERFUL GIRL... THAT WAS DAVID'S GIRLFRIEND.
♪♪
SHE WAS A JOKESTER. SHE WAS SO MUCH FUN.
♪♪
YOU KNOW, WE JUST LAUGHED AND CUT UP LIKE GIRLS DO.
WE WERE HAPPY.
BUT THEN THINGS JUST WENT BAD.
♪♪
YOU COULDN'T ASK FOR A BETTER DAUGHTER.
SHE'S SWEET... SWEETEST CHILD YOU COULD EVER HAVE.
♪♪
SHE WAS MADE TO GROW UP TOO FAST.
[ SIGHS ] OH, GOD.
[ Voice breaking ] I WAS A HORRIBLE PARENT.
EXCUSE ME.
I WAS A TERRIBLE MOTHER.
I WASN'T READY TO BE A MOTHER, I GUESS.
♪♪
[ SIGHS ]
OKAY.
I'll BE OKAY.
♪♪
I GUESS THE YOUNGEST YOU CAN REALLY HAVE A MEMORY
IS MAYBE THREE?
BUT IT'S ONE OF THE FONDEST MEMORIES
I'VE EVER HAD, AND THAT'S WHEN MY MOM
AND I WERE IN THE LIVING ROOM,
AND JOAN JETT WAS ON THE RADIO,
[voice breaking] AND WE JUST KIND OF DANCED.
♪♪
I JUST... I MISS THOSE...
I MISS THOSE TIMES.
BUT WE WERE DANCING AROUND THE LIVING ROOM AND SINGING,
AND SHE WAS SNAPPING HER FINGERS,
SO I WAS DANCING WITH HER,
AND I JUST REMEMBER THINKING, "OH, MY GOSH.
"I LOVE THIS WOMAN," YOU KNOW?
I LOVE MY MOTHER, AND SHE'S MY BEST FRIEND.
♪♪
HE TAUGHT ME HOW TO MAKE LITTLE DANDELION FLOWERS,
HOW TO STRING THEM TOGETHER
AND MAKE, LIKE, LITTLE NECKLACES AND BRACELETS,
AND I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS THE GREATEST THING EVER.
SO, I THOUGHT, "OH, YOU KNOW, HE'S NICE.
ROUGH AROUND THE EDGES, BUT NICE."
♪♪
IN THE BEGINNING, IT WAS FINE.
BUT, I MEAN, THINGS EVENTUALLY CHANGED.
HE, UM... BECAME VERY ABUSIVE,
VERY HATEFUL.
IT WENT FROM SLAPPING ME IN MY FACE
TO PUNCHING ME IN THE FACE
AND PUNCHING ME ALL OVER MY BODY.
MY MOM AND I RECENTLY TALKED ABOUT THIS
BECAUSE I ASKED HER, YOU KNOW, "MOM, WHY?
WHY DID YOU STAY WITH HIM?
WHY DID YOU STAY IN THE HOME?"
AND SHE WAS, "I JUST DON'T REMEMBER ANY OF THIS."
AND I'M LIKE, "HOW CAN YOU NOT?"
SHE'S LIKE, "I REMEMBER YOU GETTING SPANKINGS,
BUT I DON'T REMEMBER HIM, LIKE, REALLY BEATING YOU."
AND I'M LIKE, "BUT HE DID!"
ONE TIME, HE ASKED ME HOW MUCH MONEY I HAD.
IT'S FOR LUNCH.
WELL, I DIDN'T ASK WHAT IT WAS FOR.
I ASKED HOW MUCH YOU GOT.
I SAID, "FIVE DOLLARS."
AND HE WAS LIKE, "WELL, I NEED YOU TO GIVE IT TO ME."
AND I SAID, "I'M NOT GIVING YOU MY MONEY."
I SAID GIVE IT TO ME!
♪♪
AND I JUST DIDN'T SEE IT COMING.
AND THEN IT JUST, LIKE... A BLOW TO MY FACE.
♪♪
AND I HAVE SO MUCH HATE BUILT UP BY THIS POINT WITH HIM
THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO CRY EVEN THOUGH MY EYES WERE WATERING,
AND I SIT BACK DOWN IN THE CHAIR,
AND I START EATING MY CEREAL, AND I'M LOOKING STRAIGHT AHEAD.
AND I GO TO DRINK THE MILK, AND IT TASTES FUNNY.
AND I LOOK, AND IT'S FULL OF BLOOD.
♪♪
I FELT LIKE HE WAS A TICKING TIME-BOMB.
I NEVER KNEW.
I NEVER KNEW WHAT HE WAS CAPABLE OF OR WHAT HE COULD DO.
♪♪
Fuller: MY STEP-DAD HAD A TEMPER.
HE WOULD JUST GO ON HIS RAGES.
HE'D BREAK STUFF. THERE WERE HOLES IN OUR WALLS.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU GOT TO MAKE
A BIG DEAL ABOUT EVERYTHING.
I'M NOT MAKING A BIG DEAL ABOUT ANYTHING!
YOU ARE MAKING A BIG DEAL!
HE NOT ONLY ABUSED ME, BUT LATER, YOU KNOW,
I WOULD WITNESS HIM ABUSE MY MOTHER.
♪♪
IT'S HARD TO SEE THAT HAPPEN TO YOUR MOTHER.
I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, BUT I COULDN'T.
I MEAN, I WAS A KID.
TO ME, HE WAS THE SCARIEST PERSON IN THE WORLD.
♪♪
I DIDN'T KNOW WHEN, BUT I BELIEVED EVENTUALLY
HE WAS GOING TO GO OVER THE EDGE AND EITHER SHE WAS GOING TO DIE,
OR I WAS GOING TO DIE, OR WE BOTH WE WERE GOING TO DIE.
♪♪
MY DREAM WAS TO HAVE A FAMILY... A HAPPY FAMILY.
YOU KNOW, TRAVEL, DO THINGS TOGETHER.
IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING WE HAD SAID AND PLANNED
WHILE HE WAS LOCKED UP...
IT WENT OUT THE WINDOW.
I KNOW WHAT CAUSED ALL OF IT.
IT WAS THE DRUGS HE WAS ON.
I KNEW IT WAS.
CRACK, CRANK, DRANK...
ANYTHING, I GUESS, HE COULD GET HIS HANDS ON.
THE DRUG USE... IT CHANGED HIS WHOLE DISPOSITION.
HE WOULD BE NICE ONE MINUTE, MEAN THE NEXT, STAY UP FOR DAYS,
YOU KNOW, RANTING AND RAVING.
ONE DAY, I CAME HOME,
AND I DON'T THINK HE REALIZED WHO I WAS,
AND HE GRABS THE SHOTGUN OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THE BED.
♪♪
AND HE STARTED PUMPING IT.
RUBEL! RUBEL! STOP, PLEASE!
IT DIDN'T HAVE NO SHELLS IN IT, BUT HE KEPT PUMPING IT.
♪♪
IF THAT GUN WOULD HAVE BEEN LOADED, I WOULD HAVE BEEN DEAD.
I TOLD HIM, YOU KNOW, "WE'RE LEAVING."
AND THAT'S WHEN HE KEPT SAYING, "I'll KILL YOU IF YOU LEAVE ME."
YOU'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
SO, I DIDN'T GO.
I STAYED.
♪♪
I SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME WITH PAM.
I JUST ENJOYED HAVING SOMEONE THAT LISTENED TO ME,
THAT TALKED TO ME.
IT WAS A REALLY GOOD FEELING, LIKE THE FEELING
I HAD WHEN MY MOM USED TO DANCE AROUND THE LIVING ROOM WITH ME.
SO IT WAS GREAT.
YOU LOOK BEAUTIFUL.
DOESN'T SHE LOOK BEAUTIFUL, DAVID?
AS MUCH AS I ENJOYED BEING AROUND HER,
DAVID SEEMED A LITTLE OFF.
I COULD GET USED TO HAVING YOU AROUND.
HE WOULD MAKE LITTLE COMMENTS TO ME LIKE,
"OH, YOU'RE SO PRETTY.
I THINK I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE YOU MINE."
AND IT WAS EVERY TIME HE WAS AROUND HE WOULD SAY THAT TO ME.
IT REALLY STARTED TO FREAK ME OUT, BUT PAM WOULD TELL ME,
"DON'T PAY HIM ANY ATTENTION,"
AND JUST BLOW IT OFF LIKE IT WAS NOTHING.
♪♪
I REMEMBER SITTING WITH HER ONE DAY...
HONEY.
...AND SHE WAS LIKE, "ARE YOU OKAY?"
AND I REMEMBER CRYING AND SAYING, "NO.
NO, I'M NOT OKAY."
IF YOU NEED ANYTHING...
SHE HAD TOLD ME THEN, YOU KNOW,
"I'll KEEP YOU OVER HERE AS MUCH AS I CAN."
AND SHE OFFERED ME ONE OF THE BEDROOMS.
"YOU CAN FIX IT UP ANY WAY YOU WANT.
WE'LL GET A CANOPY BED."
AND IT WAS REALLY EXCITING, SO, YEAH, IT WAS.
IT WAS LIKE A SAFE HAVEN.
COME HERE. [ SNIFFLING ]
I KNOW.
♪♪
Fox: IT WAS PROBABLY THE MOST HORRIFIC SCENE I'D EVER SEEN.
I'D NEVER SEEN SOMEONE'S PARTS BURNED UP LIKE THAT.
AT THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE VICTIM.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S A MAN OR A WOMAN.
WHAT I DID SURMISE BY LOOKING AT IT IS
I THOUGHT THIS PERSON WAS NOT VERY TALL IN STATURE
BECAUSE THE SHORTNESS OF THE RIB CAGE
LED ME TO THINK THAT THIS PERSON WAS PROBABLY NOT VERY TALL.
WE WALKED AROUND, AND WE GET TO THIS SHORT PORCH.
AND I WALK UP, AND THERE WAS A SEVERED EAR ON THE RAILING.
♪♪
AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, "THAT'S REALLY A HUMAN EAR THERE.
PROBABLY BELONGS TO THAT BODY OUT THERE IN THE FIRE,
BUT WHY IS IT HERE?"
♪♪
IT MADE ME FEEL LIKE
I COULD EXPECT LITERALLY ANYTHING TO HAPPEN.
I COULD EXPECT TO SEE ANYTHING.
♪♪
THERE WAS NOTHING UNUSUAL ABOUT THE HOUSE, STEPPING INTO IT.
BUT WHEN WE WALKED INTO THE KITCHEN,
THERE WAS AN EAR IN A FRUIT BASKET.
♪♪
WHO DOES THIS?
WHO SEVERS AN EAR AND PUTS IT IN A FRUIT BASKET?
♪♪
GUYS, YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO CHECK THIS OUT.
FOR SOME REASON, ONE OF THE OFFICERS
OPENS THE REFRIGERATOR DOOR,
AND THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS IN IT,
BUT THE MOST NOTICEABLE THING IS A BALL JAR IN THE REFRIGERATOR,
AND IT'S GOT CLEAR LIQUID IN IT.
BUT WHAT IT HAS IN IT
IS THE THING THAT DRAWS EVERYONE'S ATTENTION.
IT HAS WHAT LOOKED LIKE EYES.
WHAT IS THAT?
♪♪
THEN ONE OF THE PEOPLE SAYS, "THEM'S TESTICLES."
WHAT?
AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, "WELL, I'll BE DARNED.
THAT DOES MAKE SENSE."
♪♪
AND THEN SOMEONE OPENS THE FREEZER,
AND THERE ARE TWO MORE EARS IN THE FREEZER.
♪♪
SO, NOW WE'RE ALL THINKING,
"THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE DEAD AT THIS SCENE,"
AND, SO, THE QUESTION IS WHERE IS THIS PERSON.
♪♪
WOW.
DO YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN?
SHE WAS JUST BEAUTIFUL. BEAUTIFUL.
LIKE, SHE GLOWED.
WHEN I FIRST MET PAM, THIS IS WHAT I REMEMBER.
JUST THE WAY SHE'S GLOWING IN THIS PICTURE,
HOW HAPPY SHE IS, AND SMILING, THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER.
♪♪
SHE'S GORGEOUS.
♪♪
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF DRUGS HE WAS USING,
BUT I KNOW THAT HIS BEHAVIOR STARTED TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT.
THESE ARE REALLY COMING TOGETHER, I THINK.
HE STARTED GETTING MORE AND MORE DIFFERENT.
HE STARTED BECOMING VERY SILENT, VERY SOLEMN,
NOT SAYING A WHOLE LOT.
♪♪
BUT I WOULD STILL, YOU KNOW, TRY TO SEE PAM AS MUCH AS I COULD.
YOU GOT TO PULL IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH
TO MAKE THAT DOUBLE STITCH WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE.
ONE DAY, SHE WANTED TO TEACH ME HOW TO CROCHET.
AND THE CAT KEPT JUMPING UP,
TRYING TO GRAB THE BALL OF YARN LIKE CATS DO.
GET! GET OUT OF HERE!
[ CAT MEOWS ]
SHE SAID, "IF YOU DON'T GET DOWN AND LEAVE US ALONE,
I'M GOING TO CHOP YOUR HEAD OFF AND HANG IT IN THE WELL."
THAT CAT IS NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY IF HE COMES BACK IN HERE.
I KNOW THAT SOUNDS REALLY ODD, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO KNOW PAM.
I MEAN, SHE WOULD SAY THINGS SOMETIMES,
AND IT DIDN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
♪♪
LATER ON IN THE DAY, WE WENT SHOPPING.
AND WE GOT BACK, AND HER CAT WAS LAYING ON THE STEPS,
AND IT DIDN'T HAVE A HEAD.
[ CRYING ]
♪♪
PAM IMMEDIATELY, YOU KNOW, JUST STARTED SCREAMING AND CRYING.
DAVID! DAVID!
SHE'S REALLY UPSET, AND SHE'S GOING IN TO GET HIM,
AND SHE'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, "MY BABY IS ON THE STEPS."
SHE WAS LIKE, "I THINK A WILD ANIMAL OR A DOG"...
NO. NO. NO. IT'S OKAY. I DID IT.
AND HE SAID, "NO, I DID IT."
WHAT?
LIKE, ALL THE BLOOD CAME OUT OF HER FACE,
AND SHE SAID, "YOU KILLED MY CAT?"
AND HE SAID, "ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU WANTED?"
AND HE JUST HAD THIS STRAIGHT LOOK ON HIS FACE.
AND I'M OVER HERE JUST THINKING, "HOW COULD HE DO THAT?"
AT THAT POINT, I'M REALLY, REALLY FREAKED OUT BY HIM.
IF SOMEBODY CAN DO THAT TO AN ANIMAL,
I MEAN, WHAT ARE THEY CAPABLE OF?
♪♪
SHE CAME OVER TO OUR HOUSE, AND SHE WAS CRYING,
AND SHE WAS TELLING MY MOM THAT SHE WANTED TO LEAVE HIM,
THAT HE WAS CRAZY.
AND MY MOM HAD ASKED HER,
"DO YOU NEED ME TO DRIVE YOU SOMEWHERE?"
YOU KNOW, "WHAT DO YOU NEED?"
'CAUSE MY MOM THOUGHT A LOT OF HER, AS WELL.
AND SHE WAS LIKE,
"NO, MY PARENTS ARE SUPPOSED TO COME AND GET ME,"
AND AT THAT POINT, SHE LEFT.
♪♪
IN MY MIND, SHE WASN'T LEAVING.
SHE WAS GOING TO GO HOME WITH HER PARENTS.
SHE WOULD STILL SEE US.
I WAS SAD THAT SHE WOULDN'T BE, LIKE, RIGHT UP THE ROAD,
BUT I WASN'T UPSET TO THE POINT WHERE,
"OH, I'M NEVER GOING TO SEE HER AGAIN,"
'CAUSE THAT THOUGHT DIDN'T CROSS MY MIND.
♪♪
Davis: I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT WE WAS ARGUING AND FIGHTING OVER.
IT HAD BEEN SOMETHING HE HAD DONE STUPID,
AND I HAD STEPPED UP AND SAID SOMETHING,
AND I TOLD HIM I WAS GOING TO LEAVE HIM.
I CAN'T... DO THIS ANYMORE.
WHAT DID YOU SAY?
"WELL, IF YOU TRY TO LEAVE ME, I WILL FIND YOU AND KILL YOU."
AND I SAID, "I HOPE YOU DIE AND GO STRAIGHT TO HELL."
IT WAS TIME TO DRAW A LINE, YOU KNOW?
I LIVED WITH THIS LONG ENOUGH, AND YOU CAN THREATEN ME
'TIL YOU'RE BLUE IN THE FACE.
IF YOU WANT TO KILL ME, KILL ME, YOU KNOW?
I HAD GOTTEN TO THAT POINT TO WHERE
I JUST COULDN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE.
♪♪
AND WHEN I GOT BACK, I THOUGHT,
"WELL, HE WOULD HAVE HIS STUFF AND GONE."
♪♪
BUT HIS STUFF WAS STILL THERE.
I'M THINKING, "WELL, HE'S GOING TO KILL ME," YOU KNOW?
"HE'S ALREADY THREATENED TO SO MANY TIMES IF I LEAVE."
RUBEL?
BUT HE WASN'T THERE.
AND I THOUGHT MAYBE HE MIGHT BE AT ONE OF THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE
VISITING OR SOMETHING.
NONE OF THE NEIGHBORS HAD SEEN HIM.
I'VE ASKED MY FRIENDS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WE KNOW.
NOBODY'S SEEN HIM.
I HAD A BAD FEELING SOMETHING WASN'T RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, YOU JUST GET THOSE FEELINGS.
♪♪
HEY, DAVID.
UM, I'M LOOKING FOR RUBEL. HAVE YOU SEEN HIM?
HE SAID, "NO, I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM."
BUT THERE'S SOMETHING STRANGE ABOUT DAVID.
HE SEEMED LIKE HE WAS OFF A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW?
THE KIND OF FEELING I GOT WAS, "DON'T COME HERE.
IT'S DANGEROUS."
SOMETHING TOLD ME TO LEAVE THAT HOUSE.
♪♪
I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT GAVE ME THE FEELING OR ANYTHING,
BUT THAT'S THE FEELING THAT I HAD.
♪♪
Fuller: I DIDN'T WANT HER TO LOOK FOR HIM,
I WANTED HER TO JUST STAY HOME.
I GOT REALLY UPSET, AND IT DID MAKE ME FEEL LIKE,
"WHEN AM I EVERY GOING TO MATTER ENOUGH FOR YOU TO SAY,
'HEY, I'M DONE.'"
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WAS STILL HOLDING OUT HOPE
THAT HE HAD REALLY LEFT AND THAT MY PRAYER HAD BEN ANSWERED.
♪♪
THERE WERE, LIKE, THREE OR FOUR POLICE CARS IN MY DRIVEWAY.
IS EVERYTHING OKAY?
AND THEY SAID, "IS RUBEL HILL YOUR FATHER?"
AND I SAID, "NO, HE'S MY STEP FATHER."
DO YOU REMEMBER THE LAST TIME YOU SAW HIM?
WE HAVEN'T SEEN HIM IN A WHILE.
AND THEY SAID, "DO YOU KNOW WHERE HE WAS GOING?"
"WE ASSUMED HIS FRIEND DAVID'S HOUSE,
BUT I DON'T KNOW."
AND HE SAID, "DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR MOM IS RIGHT NOW?"
AND I SAID, "YEAH, SHE'S AT WORK."
HE SAID, "IS THERE ANYWHERE YOU CAN GO UNTIL SHE GETS HOME?"
AND I WAS LIKE, "WELL, I CAN WALK TO MY FRIEND'S HOUSE.
IT'S JUST RIGHT UP THE ROAD."
SO, I WALKED TO MY FRIEND'S HOUSE,
AND I GO IN, AND THEY'RE WATCHING TV,
AND SHE SAYS, "LOOK... THERE'S POLICE AT DAVID'S HOUSE."
♪♪
THERE WAS A LITTLE NOTE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN THAT SAYS,
"DOG DRAGS HUMAN HAND INTO NEIGHBOR'S YARD.
GRUESOME DISCOVERY.
MENCY ROAD FARMHOUSE."
LIKE, IT WAS JUST ALL THIS STUFF WAS FLASHING IN FRONT OF ME.
AND, SO, AT THAT POINT, I'M JUST IN SHOCK.
♪♪
Man: INVESTIGATORS FOUND BODY PARTS.
BURNING OUTSIDE THE HOUSE DAVID SOKOLOWSKI SHARED
WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND, PAMELA ELWOOD.
MY FIRST THOUGHT WHEN I SAW THAT WAS, "HE HAS KILLED PAM.
PAM IS DEAD."
AND I'M, LIKE, UPSET, AND THEN I THOUGHT,
"THE POLICE WERE JUST ASKING ME ABOUT MY STEP-DAD.
DOES HE HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS?
DID HE HELP WITH THIS?"
SO, IN MY MIND, IT WAS DAVID AND MY STEP-FATHER.
HE HELPED DAVID KILL PAM.
AND THEN I SAW MY MOM'S CAR GO BY, SO I'M, LIKE, RUNNING.
I NEED TO BE THERE FOR MY MOM. I NEED TO COMFORT HER.
AND AS I APPROACH THE HOUSE AND I GET RIGHT TO THE DRIVEWAY,
I HEAR HER WAILING.
[ CRYING ]
THEY HAD JUST TOLD HER THAT THEY THOUGHT
DAVID HAD KILLED MY STEP-DAD.
♪♪
MR. SOKOLOWSKI,
CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH WHAT HAPPENED?
Fox: WHEN ASKED ABOUT THESE BODY PARTS THAT WERE IN THE FIRE,
MR. SOKOLOWSKI INDICATED THAT HE HAD HAD A FIGHT WITH RUBEL HILL
AND THAT IT GOT HEATED AND THAT RUBEL HAD PULLED A GUN
AND THREATENED TO KILL HIM AND THAT HE SHOT RUBEL HILL.
♪♪
LOOK, MAN, HE WAS GONNA KILL ME, ALL RIGHT?
HE SAYS THAT HE SHOT THE MAN IN SELF-DEFENSE,
WHICH IS ALLOWED BY LAW,
SO, HE'S MADE A STATEMENT THAT'S NOT A CONFESSION.
I DID WHAT ANYONE ELSE WOULD HAVE DONE.
IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.
HE HAD CHOPPED THIS MAN UP AND PUT HIS REMAINS INTO A FIRE,
AND HE HAD SAVED HIS EARS AND HIS TESTICLES.
♪♪
THAT ISN'T CONSISTENT WITH ACTING IN SELF-DEFENSE.
"WHY DID YOU BURN THE MAN UP?"
"WELL, WHAT WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO?
I TRIED TO BURY HIM, BUT THAT WAS TOO MUCH TROUBLE."
"'WHAT WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO?'
WELL, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO CALL THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DO
IF THIS WAS A SHOOTING IN SELF-DEFENSE."
♪♪
AN AUTOPSY IS PERFORMED ON THE BURNED REMAINS,
AND HE WAS SHOT AT LEAST TWICE WITH TWO DIFFERENT GUNS.
HE WAS SHOT WITH A SHOTGUN, AND HE WAS SHOT WITH A PISTOL.
AND ONE OF THOSE SHOTS WAS FRONT-WISE,
AND THE OTHER ONE WAS IN THE BACK.
IT'S HARD FOR YOU TO CLAIM SELF-DEFENSE
WHEN YOU'RE SHOT IN THE BACK.
ALL THE EVIDENCE POINTED TO THE FACT
THAT HE WAS JUST GUNNED DOWN AND JUST... SLAUGHTERED.
♪♪
Davis: I WAS HOPING IT WASN'T HIM.
I WAS HOPING THEY WERE WRONG.
AND THEN THEY MADE A POSITIVE IDENTIFICATION,
AND THEY SAID IT WAS HIM.
♪♪
I HAD A LOT OF FUN WITH HIM,
AND I HAD A LOT OF BAD TIMES WITH HIM.
♪♪
IT'S JUST HARD TO EXPLAIN.
IT'S BEEN SO MANY YEARS.
BUT NOBODY DESERVES TO GO THE WAY HE DID...
NOBODY.
NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF PERSON HE WAS.
♪♪
Fox: AS FOR HIS GIRLFRIEND, PAM ELWOOD,
HE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE SHE'D GONE.
HE THOUGHT SHE HAD JUST RUN OFF.
WE HAD FOUR EARS.
ONE EAR THAT HAD AN EARRING IN IT,
WHICH WE INDICATE THAT VICTIM WAS A WOMAN, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW,
IN FACT, TO CONFIRM THAT THAT PERSON WAS HER.
WE DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE
TO RUN WHAT WAS CALLED "REVERSE DNA,"
WHICH AMOUNTED TO GETTING A SAMPLE
FROM EACH OF HER LIVING PARENTS
AND COMPARING THAT TO THE DNA FROM ONE OF THE EARS.
♪♪
WE DID THE REVERSE DNA CHECK AND FOUND OUT
THAT THE EAR WITH THE EARRING WAS, IN FACT, HER EAR.
♪♪
AND ONCE WE FOUND THAT OUT,
WE WERE QUITE SURE THAT SHE WAS DEAD.
♪♪
I DIDN'T THINK HE WAS CAPABLE OF MURDER.
HE WAS IN TROUBLE FOR PETTY CRIME AND EVERYTHING ELSE,
BUT I DIDN'T... NO.
ESPECIALLY NOT SOMEBODY THAT HE LOVED,
OR THAT PEOPLE THOUGHT HE LOVED,
AND SOMEBODY THAT HE CONSIDERED A BEST FRIEND.
I DIDN'T THINK THAT HE WAS CAPABLE OF THAT.
♪♪
I WAS REALLY SAD THAT I DIDN'T HAVE HER ANYMORE.
AND FOR THAT, I WAS ANGRY WITH DAVID
'CAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE DIDN'T JUST LET HER LEAVE.
I MEAN, THEY WEREN'T MEANT TO BE.
WHY DIDN'T HE LET HER LEAVE?
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I HAD NO IDEA THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE LAST TIME I SAW HER.
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I WISH THAT I KNEW ENOUGH THEN TO SAY, "JUST STAY HERE."
"STAY HERE TILL YOUR PARENTS GET HERE," YOU KNOW?
"DON'T GO DOWN THERE."
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Davis: DAVID'S PRISON RECORD WAS, LIKE,
BREAKING AND ENTERING, DRUG CHARGES.
IT WASN'T HARMING ANYONE.
I DON'T THINK IN A MILLION YEARS
HE THOUGHT DAVID WOULD HURT HIM OR US.
I REALLY DON'T.
AND I TOOK RUBEL AT HIS WORD THAT HE'S HARMLESS,
BUT LOOK WHAT HARMLESS DID.
HARMLESS TORE OUR LIVES TO PIECES.
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HE WASN'T HARMLESS IN THE END.
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IT WAS VERY ROUGH...
VERY, VERY ROUGH.
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WHEN HE GOT KILLED, MY WHOLE LIFE FELL APART.
I DIDN'T SLEEP GOOD, I DIDN'T EAT RIGHT.
I WEIGHED A WHOLE 88 TO 99 POUNDS.
I LOOKED LIKE I WAS AT DEATH'S DOOR.
I WAS SCARED TO BE ALONE.
I WALKED AROUND, AND I'D SEARCHED THE HOUSE,
UNDER THE BEDS, IN THE CLOSET,
THINKING THAT SOMEBODY'S IN THERE TRYING TO HURT US.
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IT'S JUST... A BAD FEELING...
BAD, BAD FEELING.
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Man: DAVID SOKOLOWSKI HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH THE MURDERS.
OF HIS GIRLFRIEND, PAMELA ELWOOD,
AND HIS FRIEND RUBEL HILL.
PROSECUTORS DON'T BELIEVE SOKOLOWSKI'S CLAIM
THAT HE KILLED HILL IN SELF-DEFENSE.
I FED THIS MAN, AND THEN HE TAKES MY HUSBAND'S LIFE,
AFTER WE WERE GOOD TO HIM AND FED HIM.
IT MAKES YOU ANGRY.
I WAS MAD. I WAS REALLY MAD...
BLINDED BY RAGE.
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WE WENT TO THE COURTHOUSE.
THEY TAKE HIM OUTSIDE THE COURTHOUSE,
AND I CAN SEE HIM IN MY REARVIEW MIRROR.
AND I SEE HIM STANDING OUTSIDE ON THE STREET
OUTSIDE THE SHERIFF'S CAR.
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I HATED HIM.
I WANTED HIM DEAD.
[ SCREAMS ]
[ ENGINE REVS ]
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Davis: I HATED HIM FOR WHAT HE HAD DONE.
I WANTED HIM DEAD.
SO, I SWUNG THE CAR AROUND, AND I STOMPED THE GAS.
[ ENGINE REVS ]
IT WAS GRAVEL THEN, DIRT FLYING EVERYWHERE.
I'M BLINDED BY RAGE.
[ SCREAMS ]
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WE COME TO A SCREECHING HALT.
THE SHERIFFS COME OVER THERE WITH THE GUNS DRAWN,
OPENED UP THE DOOR.
THEY PULL ME OUT, PUT ME ON THE GROUND, PUT HANDCUFFS ON ME.
I DIDN'T CARE.
I JUST WANTED HIM HURT THE WAY I'M HURTING.
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BACK THEN, I HAD SO MUCH ANGER AND RAGE IN ME.
I JUST WANTED TO KILL HIM,
AND I'VE NEVER FELT THAT ABOUT ANYBODY BEFORE.
[ SIGHS ]
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THIS IS THE LETTER THAT I WROTE TO DAVID.
"MY NAME IS AMY FULLER."
LEANN HILL IS MY MOTHER,
AND RUBEL HILL WAS MY STEP-FATHER.
I PRAYED EVERY DAY THAT GOD WOULD REMOVE HIM FROM MY LIFE
SO THAT I WOULD NOT HAVE TO LIVE THE HELL THAT HE DROVE ME TO.
THERE ARE DAYS THAT I CATCH MYSELF
THANKING YOU FOR TAKING THE EVIL AWAY,
BUT THEN I THINK ABOUT PAM.
SHE WAS AN AMAZING WOMAN WHO I LOOKED UP TO.
I LOVED PAM AND NEEDED HER, AND YOU TOOK THAT AWAY FROM ME.
I WAS ANGRY FOR THE LONGEST TIME, BUT OVER THE YEARS,
I'VE REALIZED THAT I CANNOT CARRY THAT BURDEN ANY LONGER.
"AND FOR THAT, I FORGIVE YOU."
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I WAITED FOR HIM TO WRITE ME BACK.
HE NEVER DID.
EVERYBODY WHO KNOWS I WROTE THAT THINKS I'M CRAZY
FOR DOING THAT, BUT FOR ME,
I FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO GET THAT OUT.
AND IF YOU DON'T FORGIVE PEOPLE,
THEN YOU HOLD THAT ANGER FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE,
AND I DON'T WANT TO HOLD THAT ANGER.
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Fox: LEANN AND AMY,
I THINK THAT THEIR LIVES WERE SHATTERED BY THIS KILLING.
I THINK THAT LEANN WAS TOTALLY DEVASTATED BY THIS,
AND SHE HAD AN ANGER THAT I WOULD EXPECT TO PERSIST
THROUGHOUT HER WHOLE LIFE.
I THOUGHT THAT ONCE LEANN PUT HER ANGER ASIDE
AND REALLY FOCUSED ON THINGS,
THAT EVEN SHE COULD RISE UP AND THAT SHE COULD...
HER LIFE COULD TAKE A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
WHEN I MET AMY, SHE HAD THE ENERGY
THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT OUT OF A 13-YEAR-OLD,
BUT SHE ALSO HAD SORT OF A SADNESS TO HER.
BECAUSE OF WHAT I SAW IN HER, I THOUGHT SHE COULD BE ALL
THAT SHE EVER DREAMED THAT SHE COULD BE.
IT GIVES ME SUCH A GOOD FEELING TO KNOW
THAT HER LIFE HAS TURNED OUT WELL.
I CAN SAY THAT I'M PROUD OF BOTH OF THEM.
I'M PROUD OF LEANN.
I'M PROUD OF AMY.
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I COULDN'T TALK TO HER ABOUT HOW I WAS FEELING.
SHE WASN'T AVAILABLE FOR THAT, MENTALLY OR EMOTIONALLY,
BECAUSE SHE WAS JUST ALMOST MENTALLY GONE
AND EMOTIONALLY EXHAUSTED FROM EVERYTHING.
SHE COULD NOT BE THE MOTHER THAT I NEEDED HER TO BE AT THAT TIME.
AND, SO, SHE HAD ASKED ME ONE DAY IF I WANTED TO GO
AND STAY WITH MY GODPARENTS, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE HER,
BUT I THINK AT THAT POINT, I FELT THAT SHE NEEDED ME TO.
IT WAS HARD, AND I MISSED HER, AND I SAW HER STILL.
I MEAN, SHE WOULD COME AND SEE ME.
I WOULDN'T SEE HER EVERY DAY, BUT...
IT HURT, BUT IT HELPED ME AT THE SAME TIME.
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A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE WERE IN THE CAR,
AND WE TALKED, AND I'M CRYING, AND I'M JUST LIKE,
"I JUST WANTED TO STAY WITH YOU.
I JUST WANTED TO BE WITH YOU."
AND SHE GRABBED ME, AND SHE HUGGED ME,
[voice breaking] AND SHE SAID, "YOU WON'T EVER LOSE ME AGAIN."
AND THAT MADE ME FEEL GOOD.
IT MADE ME FEEL LIKE "THIS IS WHAT I WANTED FROM YOU."
MY WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE, THIS IS WHAT I WANTED. ♪
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I FEEL LIKE THIS HAS HELPED US.
THIS HAS OPENED A DOOR
WHERE THINGS CAN ONLY BE POSITIVE GOING FORWARD.
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Davis: YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE JUST CHOKING.
THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL... LIKE I'M CHOKING.
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I DIDN'T MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.
I JUST DID NOT.
I THOUGHT I COULD CHANGE HIM.
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I KNOW AMY FORGIVES ME, BUT... I DON'T FORGIVE MYSELF.
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SHE DIDN'T HAVE A NORMAL CHILDHOOD,
AND SHE'S MADE SURE THAT HER CHILDREN DO.
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AGAIN, IT HAS SHATTERED US BOTH INTO A THOUSAND PIECES.
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