1 00:00:01,827 --> 00:00:04,047 male narrator: Thinking about having children? 2 00:00:04,091 --> 00:00:06,441 - Aah! - [screams] 3 00:00:06,484 --> 00:00:08,754 narrator: You might wanna watch this first... 4 00:00:08,791 --> 00:00:10,141 [crowd screaming] 5 00:00:10,184 --> 00:00:12,404 - The girls hate Carrie because she's different. 6 00:00:12,447 --> 00:00:13,707 [dramatic musical sting] 7 00:00:13,752 --> 00:00:15,712 - She is the hero wronged by society. 8 00:00:15,754 --> 00:00:17,104 [scary music] 9 00:00:17,147 --> 00:00:19,367 And, society, this is what you get. 10 00:00:19,410 --> 00:00:21,800 ♪ 11 00:00:21,847 --> 00:00:24,417 - Bring them back here. Right here to me! 12 00:00:24,459 --> 00:00:25,759 ♪ 13 00:00:25,808 --> 00:00:27,978 - You say a child is a bad seed... 14 00:00:29,290 --> 00:00:31,030 Everyone knows what you mean. 15 00:00:31,814 --> 00:00:33,214 - Something that's supposed to be so innocent 16 00:00:33,250 --> 00:00:34,770 becoming so evil. 17 00:00:34,817 --> 00:00:36,297 - [screaming] 18 00:00:37,298 --> 00:00:39,338 - And now it's something that can harm you. 19 00:00:41,258 --> 00:00:42,298 - You don't know what's going on inside that kid. 20 00:00:42,346 --> 00:00:45,916 - Leave us alone. 21 00:00:45,958 --> 00:00:47,568 - Maybe they're just being a weird kid, 22 00:00:47,612 --> 00:00:49,612 or maybe you're about to die. 23 00:00:51,616 --> 00:00:52,966 - "Children of the Corn" is, like, 24 00:00:53,009 --> 00:00:54,579 the ultimate creepy kid flick. 25 00:00:54,619 --> 00:00:56,969 - We want to give you peace. 26 00:00:57,013 --> 00:00:58,153 - You're just like, "Oh, these kids are [bleep]." 27 00:00:58,188 --> 00:00:59,488 [laughs] 28 00:01:00,321 --> 00:01:01,841 - What could be more frightening 29 00:01:01,887 --> 00:01:03,757 than your child gone wrong? 30 00:01:03,802 --> 00:01:05,372 - [screams] 31 00:01:06,327 --> 00:01:08,547 - People without children don't realize how lucky they are. 32 00:01:08,590 --> 00:01:10,370 - [screams] 33 00:01:11,854 --> 00:01:14,774 [eerie music] 34 00:01:14,813 --> 00:01:21,733 ♪ 35 00:01:22,430 --> 00:01:24,080 - [screams] 36 00:01:40,187 --> 00:01:41,837 narrator: The chilling children of horror 37 00:01:41,884 --> 00:01:42,894 come in many forms. 38 00:01:42,928 --> 00:01:43,928 - Help me. 39 00:01:46,628 --> 00:01:48,458 narrator: Some are born with the seeds of evil 40 00:01:48,499 --> 00:01:49,809 lurking inside them. 41 00:01:49,848 --> 00:01:52,418 - [screams] 42 00:01:55,115 --> 00:01:57,985 narrator: A few are good kids possessed by evil entities. 43 00:01:58,030 --> 00:01:59,420 - And I'm the devil. 44 00:02:00,990 --> 00:02:03,510 narrator: And then there's Carrie, 45 00:02:03,558 --> 00:02:06,388 a good girl who does some very bad things. 46 00:02:07,997 --> 00:02:11,647 Based on Stephen King's terrifying debut novel, 47 00:02:11,696 --> 00:02:15,176 "Carrie" begins with blood and trauma. 48 00:02:16,136 --> 00:02:21,176 Sissy Spacek plays a teenage girl so sheltered and naive, 49 00:02:21,228 --> 00:02:22,838 that when she has her first menstruation 50 00:02:22,881 --> 00:02:25,841 in a high school shower, she thinks she's dying. 51 00:02:25,884 --> 00:02:28,024 - Help me! Help me! 52 00:02:28,060 --> 00:02:29,890 - Have a tampon. 53 00:02:29,932 --> 00:02:31,632 narrator: And her classmates brutally shame her for it. 54 00:02:31,673 --> 00:02:34,333 - Hey, Norma,Carrie's on her period. 55 00:02:34,371 --> 00:02:36,771 - I don't even think we're thinking about what happened, 56 00:02:36,808 --> 00:02:38,108 or what's wrong with her; 57 00:02:38,158 --> 00:02:39,718 we're just dis-- just repelled by her. 58 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:45,770 It's really about how mean kids can be, 59 00:02:45,817 --> 00:02:48,777 and if you're different, we're gonna torture you. 60 00:02:48,820 --> 00:02:50,690 You know? And you will pay for it. 61 00:02:50,735 --> 00:02:54,215 girls: Put it on, put it on, put it on, put it on! 62 00:02:54,261 --> 00:02:56,521 narrator: The traumatic passage into womanhood 63 00:02:56,567 --> 00:02:59,567 awakens Carrie's latent psychic powers. 64 00:02:59,614 --> 00:03:00,884 [horrific musical sting] 65 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,399 [lightbulb shatters] 66 00:03:03,444 --> 00:03:06,624 Carrie's tormenters are punished for their cruelty. 67 00:03:06,664 --> 00:03:09,894 Bad girl Chris is out for revenge, 68 00:03:09,928 --> 00:03:13,108 while good girl Sue wants to atone for her sin. 69 00:03:15,325 --> 00:03:19,235 She persuades her boyfriend to ask Carrie to the senior prom. 70 00:03:19,286 --> 00:03:20,936 - If you don't have a date to the prom next Friday, 71 00:03:20,983 --> 00:03:22,163 would you like to go with me? 72 00:03:22,202 --> 00:03:25,512 ♪ 73 00:03:25,553 --> 00:03:28,863 - I always saw him as conflicted, 74 00:03:28,904 --> 00:03:33,174 but always very virtuous, wanting to do the right thing. 75 00:03:33,213 --> 00:03:34,873 - I've been invited to the prom. 76 00:03:36,128 --> 00:03:37,698 - Prom? 77 00:03:39,349 --> 00:03:41,309 narrator: The abuse Carrie suffers at school 78 00:03:41,351 --> 00:03:43,271 pales next to what she endures 79 00:03:43,310 --> 00:03:45,010 from her hyper-religious mother. 80 00:03:45,050 --> 00:03:47,010 - [screams] 81 00:03:50,447 --> 00:03:54,537 - It's extraordinary to me that people were frightened by me 82 00:03:54,582 --> 00:03:58,242 because it was such a--it was like a vacation for me, 83 00:03:58,281 --> 00:04:01,891 and I hadn't laughed that much in a long time at myself. 84 00:04:01,937 --> 00:04:04,197 The boys. Yes, the boys. 85 00:04:04,244 --> 00:04:05,684 [tense music] 86 00:04:05,723 --> 00:04:10,123 After the blood come the boyslike sniffing dogs. 87 00:04:10,162 --> 00:04:13,382 - Really, you have in Margaret White someone who is terrified 88 00:04:13,427 --> 00:04:16,127 that the world is going to 89 00:04:16,168 --> 00:04:18,478 tear her daughter apart, 90 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:22,219 and almost preemptively, she starts to tear her apart 91 00:04:22,262 --> 00:04:24,612 before the world gets a chance to do it. 92 00:04:24,655 --> 00:04:28,175 - Mama, I'll get them. Please sit and talk to me! 93 00:04:28,224 --> 00:04:31,794 [scary music] 94 00:04:31,836 --> 00:04:34,746 [thunder cracks] 95 00:04:38,626 --> 00:04:41,456 I'm going, Mama. 96 00:04:41,498 --> 00:04:44,148 narrator: Carrie's prom shows director Brian De Palma 97 00:04:44,196 --> 00:04:45,496 at his best, 98 00:04:45,546 --> 00:04:47,766 balancing technical virtuosity 99 00:04:47,809 --> 00:04:50,119 with strong emotional storytelling. 100 00:04:50,159 --> 00:04:54,689 - The prom scene took two to three weeks to shoot. 101 00:04:54,729 --> 00:04:57,169 It was the longest sequence in the film. 102 00:04:57,209 --> 00:04:59,389 It was the big set piece, of course. 103 00:04:59,429 --> 00:05:02,819 Nobody I've worked with has done as many takes as Brian. 104 00:05:04,042 --> 00:05:07,052 - That prom scene is just really muscular filmmaking. 105 00:05:07,089 --> 00:05:09,179 Like, just what he's doing with the camera 106 00:05:09,221 --> 00:05:10,831 is so exciting. 107 00:05:10,875 --> 00:05:12,615 - Why am I here with you? 108 00:05:12,660 --> 00:05:15,320 - [laughs] 109 00:05:15,358 --> 00:05:17,968 Because I asked you. 110 00:05:18,013 --> 00:05:19,933 - You know, even when they're dancing, 111 00:05:19,971 --> 00:05:21,761 and the camera's revolving around them, 112 00:05:21,799 --> 00:05:24,149 and it just starts spinning out of control, 113 00:05:24,193 --> 00:05:27,023 it shouldn't work, and it's--it's really uncanny. 114 00:05:27,065 --> 00:05:30,545 - Carrie, we're here. 115 00:05:30,591 --> 00:05:33,201 - She's, you know, been cocooned for her whole life 116 00:05:33,245 --> 00:05:37,245 with this oppressive religious mother, 117 00:05:37,293 --> 00:05:38,903 and then finally she gets a chance 118 00:05:38,947 --> 00:05:40,777 to emerge as this beautiful butterfly. 119 00:05:40,818 --> 00:05:43,338 [laughter] 120 00:05:43,386 --> 00:05:46,426 You really begin to feel this sense of hope. 121 00:05:46,476 --> 00:05:47,956 [dramatic musical sting] 122 00:05:47,999 --> 00:05:50,089 And then what happens after that 123 00:05:50,132 --> 00:05:52,402 is just tragic. 124 00:05:53,222 --> 00:05:55,142 - Can I have your ballot, please? 125 00:05:55,180 --> 00:05:57,140 narrator: Carrie's enemies rig the ballots 126 00:05:57,182 --> 00:05:59,402 so she becomes prom queen, 127 00:05:59,446 --> 00:06:02,356 and so they can spring a terrible trap. 128 00:06:02,405 --> 00:06:04,405 - I think everyone always responds to that movie, 129 00:06:04,451 --> 00:06:06,101 where, like, 130 00:06:06,148 --> 00:06:08,408 "We just want it to turn out differently this time." 131 00:06:08,455 --> 00:06:10,935 ♪ 132 00:06:10,979 --> 00:06:13,719 She's happy; you know, she's just happy for the first time, 133 00:06:13,764 --> 00:06:16,594 and we're so happy to see that 134 00:06:16,637 --> 00:06:19,467 and dreading what we know is coming, 135 00:06:19,509 --> 00:06:21,119 and then it all explodes. 136 00:06:21,163 --> 00:06:27,133 ♪ 137 00:06:27,169 --> 00:06:28,779 - [gasps] 138 00:06:28,823 --> 00:06:30,303 - Drenched in blood, Carrie snaps, 139 00:06:30,346 --> 00:06:32,996 and her psychic powers erupt. 140 00:06:33,044 --> 00:06:34,744 ♪ 141 00:06:34,785 --> 00:06:37,215 - Sissy Spacek's eyes-- she's covered in blood, 142 00:06:37,266 --> 00:06:38,696 but her eyes are really big and blue. 143 00:06:38,746 --> 00:06:41,436 [laughter] 144 00:06:41,488 --> 00:06:42,878 - I remember the first time I saw that, 145 00:06:42,924 --> 00:06:44,324 I think I backed up a little bit and went, 146 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,580 "Oh, no, oh, this is bad. This is bad. 147 00:06:47,624 --> 00:06:49,634 I've never seen her mad yet. I haven't seen her mad yet." 148 00:06:49,670 --> 00:06:52,500 ♪ 149 00:06:52,542 --> 00:06:55,072 - She splits, and De Palma splits the screen. 150 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:57,550 [electrical crackling] 151 00:06:57,591 --> 00:06:59,591 And when Carrie's personality splits, 152 00:06:59,636 --> 00:07:03,206 and she just looks, it's like the other side takes over. 153 00:07:03,248 --> 00:07:04,948 It's like in the beginning 154 00:07:04,989 --> 00:07:06,729 she has this little bit of power with the drop of blood, 155 00:07:06,774 --> 00:07:08,604 but when she's covered in blood, 156 00:07:08,645 --> 00:07:10,205 that's when it really comes out, 157 00:07:10,255 --> 00:07:11,995 and she's like, "I'm going to make you pay." 158 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,260 - [screaming] 159 00:07:17,698 --> 00:07:20,478 - Somewhere inside every girl, 160 00:07:20,527 --> 00:07:22,397 they can relate to this idea 161 00:07:22,442 --> 00:07:26,102 of feeling like, "My power has been taken away from me, 162 00:07:26,141 --> 00:07:27,881 "and what would I do 163 00:07:27,925 --> 00:07:30,705 if I got all that power and then some back?" 164 00:07:30,754 --> 00:07:33,064 [dramatic musical sting] 165 00:07:36,368 --> 00:07:39,018 narrator: After laying waste to her graduating class, 166 00:07:39,067 --> 00:07:40,627 Carrie goes home 167 00:07:40,677 --> 00:07:42,327 to the less than comforting arms of her mother, 168 00:07:42,374 --> 00:07:45,074 who's decided her daughter must die. 169 00:07:45,116 --> 00:07:46,506 - [gasps] 170 00:07:46,553 --> 00:07:48,123 - Piper Laurie raises the knife... 171 00:07:48,163 --> 00:07:49,863 - [gasps] 172 00:07:50,948 --> 00:07:52,338 Aah! 173 00:07:52,384 --> 00:07:54,084 - And then they did that whole sequence 174 00:07:54,125 --> 00:07:56,255 where the knives "whoosh," they twirl through the air. 175 00:07:56,301 --> 00:07:58,131 - [gasps] 176 00:07:58,173 --> 00:07:59,743 - You know when I first saw it, I didn't know how they did it. 177 00:08:01,698 --> 00:08:04,918 - I was wearing this iron vest underneath, 178 00:08:04,962 --> 00:08:08,402 and each place I was going to be hit 179 00:08:08,444 --> 00:08:11,754 there was a block of wood underneath 180 00:08:11,795 --> 00:08:15,535 and a hole in the costume with a wire stretched out 181 00:08:15,582 --> 00:08:16,762 to the prop man. 182 00:08:18,715 --> 00:08:20,885 And this knife or can opener would travel 183 00:08:20,935 --> 00:08:23,675 until it hit me, 184 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,510 and then I would react. 185 00:08:25,548 --> 00:08:27,858 Aah! Aah! 186 00:08:27,898 --> 00:08:30,988 - That one particular scene was always my favorite. 187 00:08:31,598 --> 00:08:34,468 [somber music] 188 00:08:34,514 --> 00:08:36,564 ♪ 189 00:08:36,603 --> 00:08:38,263 And I thought the movie was over, 190 00:08:38,300 --> 00:08:41,260 so I was really 100% completely satisfied, 191 00:08:41,303 --> 00:08:43,043 and then of course the arm comes out of the ground 192 00:08:43,087 --> 00:08:44,257 at the end. 193 00:08:44,306 --> 00:08:48,306 - [screaming] 194 00:08:48,353 --> 00:08:50,663 - Carrie has the greatest jump scare ending ever. 195 00:08:50,704 --> 00:08:53,144 - [screaming] 196 00:08:53,184 --> 00:08:54,804 - That ending changed movies. 197 00:08:54,838 --> 00:08:56,618 - If you were making a horror movie, 198 00:08:56,666 --> 00:08:58,536 you had to have a jump scare at the end, 199 00:08:58,581 --> 00:09:00,321 or the audiences were pissed. 200 00:09:00,365 --> 00:09:02,585 narrator: Decades after its release, 201 00:09:02,629 --> 00:09:04,199 "Carrie" remains 202 00:09:04,239 --> 00:09:07,019 one of the all time great horror classics, 203 00:09:07,068 --> 00:09:09,198 because while fashions may change, 204 00:09:09,244 --> 00:09:12,684 the misery adolescence is timeless. 205 00:09:14,205 --> 00:09:16,465 - Everybody sympathizes with Carrie. 206 00:09:16,512 --> 00:09:19,732 The character of Carrie White continues to resonate 207 00:09:19,776 --> 00:09:21,516 generation after generation 208 00:09:21,561 --> 00:09:24,221 because she is sort of, like, this heroic character 209 00:09:24,259 --> 00:09:26,739 for anybody has been marginalized or bullied 210 00:09:26,783 --> 00:09:29,183 or has had an oppressive parent. 211 00:09:29,220 --> 00:09:32,140 [crowd screaming] 212 00:09:32,180 --> 00:09:35,920 - It is a warning to all of us to be kind to each other 213 00:09:35,966 --> 00:09:38,316 because you don't know what monster you're making. 214 00:09:39,666 --> 00:09:41,616 narrator: It's understandable 215 00:09:41,668 --> 00:09:44,058 that a gentle soul could be pushed to the breaking point, 216 00:09:44,105 --> 00:09:47,935 but some children defy understanding. 217 00:09:49,023 --> 00:09:52,943 Like the angel-faced tikes with murder in their hearts. 218 00:09:52,983 --> 00:09:55,253 ♪ 219 00:09:57,945 --> 00:09:59,855 narrator: What is the nature of evil? 220 00:09:59,903 --> 00:10:01,213 - [screams] 221 00:10:01,252 --> 00:10:02,562 narrator: Is it learned behavior? 222 00:10:02,602 --> 00:10:04,732 Or are some kids just born bad? 223 00:10:04,778 --> 00:10:06,688 - [screams] 224 00:10:06,736 --> 00:10:08,956 narrator: When a child kills, 225 00:10:08,999 --> 00:10:11,089 do we blame the parents? 226 00:10:11,132 --> 00:10:12,792 - Say good-bye. - No! 227 00:10:12,829 --> 00:10:14,349 narrator: Or faulty brain chemistry? 228 00:10:14,396 --> 00:10:17,876 [tires screeching] 229 00:10:17,921 --> 00:10:19,791 [terrifying music] 230 00:10:19,836 --> 00:10:22,666 Those difficult questions are at the heart of two films 231 00:10:22,709 --> 00:10:24,319 made half a century apart 232 00:10:24,362 --> 00:10:26,502 in two very different Americas. 233 00:10:26,538 --> 00:10:28,408 - What are all these people watching? 234 00:10:28,453 --> 00:10:30,193 People like me. 235 00:10:30,238 --> 00:10:33,848 narrator: "We Need to Talk About Kevin" from 2011 236 00:10:33,894 --> 00:10:37,034 and "The Bad Seed" from 1956. 237 00:10:37,071 --> 00:10:39,381 ♪ 238 00:10:39,421 --> 00:10:42,691 "We Need to Talk About Kevin" is an evil child film 239 00:10:42,729 --> 00:10:44,339 for the era of school shootings. 240 00:10:44,382 --> 00:10:46,732 ♪ 241 00:10:46,776 --> 00:10:49,686 Through disjointed flashbacks, 242 00:10:49,736 --> 00:10:51,476 the film traces the relationship 243 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,350 of a reluctant mother to her son. 244 00:10:53,391 --> 00:10:55,961 Kevin's an inscrutable psychopath 245 00:10:56,003 --> 00:10:58,613 who makes her life hell as a toddler 246 00:10:58,658 --> 00:11:01,178 and ends up a teenage mass murderer. 247 00:11:01,225 --> 00:11:03,705 [children screaming] 248 00:11:03,750 --> 00:11:05,190 - What could be more frightening 249 00:11:05,229 --> 00:11:07,099 than your child gone wrong? 250 00:11:07,144 --> 00:11:10,414 I mean how organic is that? 251 00:11:10,452 --> 00:11:12,852 How horrendous would that be? 252 00:11:12,889 --> 00:11:15,719 Because you're there for at least 18 years, man. 253 00:11:15,762 --> 00:11:17,942 [laughs] However your kids comes out, 254 00:11:17,981 --> 00:11:19,641 you have a responsibility. 255 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,069 ♪ 256 00:11:23,117 --> 00:11:24,987 - It's almost just every parent's nightmare 257 00:11:25,032 --> 00:11:26,772 than anything else. 258 00:11:26,816 --> 00:11:32,076 [crowd screaming] 259 00:11:32,126 --> 00:11:33,866 It's highly relatable, 260 00:11:33,910 --> 00:11:35,560 because I think every parent 261 00:11:35,607 --> 00:11:38,387 experiences that "what if" moment. 262 00:11:38,436 --> 00:11:42,006 You know, what if my daughter or son did this or that? 263 00:11:43,311 --> 00:11:46,101 narrator: Kevin's guilt-ridden mother is haunted 264 00:11:46,140 --> 00:11:48,450 by not knowing if her child was born bad, 265 00:11:48,490 --> 00:11:51,580 or if her failures as a mother made him a monster. 266 00:11:51,623 --> 00:11:53,193 [thumps] 267 00:11:53,234 --> 00:11:56,764 - There's a very contemporary kind of engagement 268 00:11:56,803 --> 00:11:59,633 with the discussions of what's sometimes referred to 269 00:11:59,675 --> 00:12:01,715 as the Mommy Wars. 270 00:12:01,764 --> 00:12:04,514 Just a continual question 271 00:12:04,549 --> 00:12:08,419 of how much time, energy, 272 00:12:08,466 --> 00:12:10,076 and emotional attachment 273 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,950 do mothers need to give to their children? 274 00:12:14,081 --> 00:12:16,821 And you know, all kinds of guilt accorded to mothers 275 00:12:16,866 --> 00:12:18,826 who supposedly do not give 276 00:12:18,868 --> 00:12:21,828 enough emotional time and energy to their children. 277 00:12:21,871 --> 00:12:24,051 - [sarcastic] Looks like someone's having a nice day. 278 00:12:24,091 --> 00:12:25,611 Enjoying yourself? 279 00:12:25,657 --> 00:12:28,137 - I'm sorry?Ooh! 280 00:12:28,182 --> 00:12:31,712 - I think culturally, that's what we do to women 281 00:12:31,751 --> 00:12:36,541 who don't always live up to the ideal of, like, 282 00:12:36,581 --> 00:12:39,241 "Oh, my God, I love my beautiful child. 283 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,500 My child is just the most wonderful thing." 284 00:12:41,543 --> 00:12:42,983 - I don't like that. [yelling] 285 00:12:43,023 --> 00:12:46,503 - Mommy was happy befow wittle Kevin came along. 286 00:12:46,548 --> 00:12:48,118 You know dat? 287 00:12:48,158 --> 00:12:49,898 - Basically, I think it's an expose 288 00:12:49,943 --> 00:12:51,813 on how difficult parenthood can be. 289 00:12:51,858 --> 00:12:55,688 - Now Mommy wakes up every morning 290 00:12:55,731 --> 00:12:58,521 and wishes she was in France! 291 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:00,690 - You never know exactly what you're gonna get, right? 292 00:13:02,651 --> 00:13:04,221 - You're a little clammy. 293 00:13:04,261 --> 00:13:05,961 You feeling okay? 294 00:13:06,002 --> 00:13:08,532 - Never better. 295 00:13:08,570 --> 00:13:10,090 narrator: Today, 296 00:13:10,137 --> 00:13:12,837 the idea of a seemingly normal American kid 297 00:13:12,879 --> 00:13:16,799 committing coldblooded mass murder is a sad fact of life. 298 00:13:16,839 --> 00:13:20,319 In 1956, it was shocking. - [crying] 299 00:13:20,364 --> 00:13:22,114 [dramatic musical sting] 300 00:13:22,149 --> 00:13:23,539 narrator: The pigtailed psycho killer 301 00:13:23,585 --> 00:13:25,195 at the heart of "The Bad Seed" 302 00:13:25,239 --> 00:13:28,329 is 8-year-old Rhoda Penmark. 303 00:13:28,372 --> 00:13:32,032 She's the original evil child of horror. 304 00:13:32,072 --> 00:13:33,862 - If you say a child is a bad seed, 305 00:13:33,900 --> 00:13:35,250 everyone knows what you mean. 306 00:13:35,292 --> 00:13:37,432 It's part of the, uh-- the Lexicon now. 307 00:13:39,035 --> 00:13:42,335 "The Bad Seed" is one of the more chilling 308 00:13:42,386 --> 00:13:44,206 child horror stories 309 00:13:44,258 --> 00:13:47,568 because there's not a supernatural element to it. 310 00:13:47,609 --> 00:13:49,699 She's just an evil kid. 311 00:13:49,741 --> 00:13:52,571 - Good morning, Miss Fern. - Good morning, Rhoda. 312 00:13:52,614 --> 00:13:55,364 - Always smiling, always nice, always clean-cut, 313 00:13:55,399 --> 00:13:57,919 and then pure evil behind your back. 314 00:13:57,967 --> 00:14:01,797 - You've got them hid, but you'd better get them 315 00:14:01,841 --> 00:14:04,931 and bring them back here, right here to me! 316 00:14:04,974 --> 00:14:06,284 [dramatic musical sting] 317 00:14:06,323 --> 00:14:08,243 - Patty McCormack is the bad seed. 318 00:14:10,023 --> 00:14:12,373 It'd had been a play first on Broadway, 319 00:14:12,416 --> 00:14:15,636 and she having played it onstage, 320 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:17,730 really knew that character. 321 00:14:17,769 --> 00:14:21,119 - I thought I'd seen some mean little gals in my time, 322 00:14:21,164 --> 00:14:23,044 but you're the meanest. 323 00:14:23,079 --> 00:14:24,559 - And she made it real. 324 00:14:24,602 --> 00:14:27,652 - I know what you think.I know everything you think. 325 00:14:27,692 --> 00:14:30,912 ♪ 326 00:14:30,957 --> 00:14:35,137 - Rhoda just thought she was right about everything... 327 00:14:36,745 --> 00:14:40,525 And had no problem, once she had a goal, 328 00:14:40,575 --> 00:14:43,795 and achieving that goal no matter what the cost, 329 00:14:43,839 --> 00:14:46,059 and slowly through the film, 330 00:14:46,102 --> 00:14:48,322 the mother realizes 331 00:14:48,365 --> 00:14:50,925 that her daughter is different. 332 00:14:50,977 --> 00:14:52,587 [laughs] 333 00:14:52,630 --> 00:14:55,330 Is it true that when bloodhas been washed off anything, 334 00:14:55,372 --> 00:14:57,942 a policeman can still findif it's there? 335 00:14:57,984 --> 00:15:00,464 ♪ 336 00:15:00,508 --> 00:15:03,248 narrator: "The Bad Seed" arrived in the mid 1950s, 337 00:15:03,293 --> 00:15:06,993 one of the most conservative periods in American history. 338 00:15:07,036 --> 00:15:10,206 The generation that grew up during the Great Depression 339 00:15:10,257 --> 00:15:13,607 believed in strict discipline and frowned on selfishness. 340 00:15:13,651 --> 00:15:15,611 Rhoda embodied their worst fears 341 00:15:15,653 --> 00:15:17,263 about their own children. 342 00:15:17,307 --> 00:15:19,787 - I was a child of the '50s, 343 00:15:19,831 --> 00:15:22,311 and, you know, they hit you-- you know what I mean-- 344 00:15:22,356 --> 00:15:24,356 when you were naughty. [laughs] 345 00:15:24,401 --> 00:15:26,191 No one called Child Services, you know? 346 00:15:26,229 --> 00:15:28,409 You made up your mind in one second! 347 00:15:28,449 --> 00:15:33,059 So it was so fun to be free of the constraints 348 00:15:33,106 --> 00:15:34,886 of the time. 349 00:15:34,934 --> 00:15:37,554 And I told him I'd hit him with my shoe 350 00:15:37,588 --> 00:15:39,158 if he didn't give me the medal! 351 00:15:39,199 --> 00:15:41,769 - I think the film is definitely at least hinting 352 00:15:41,810 --> 00:15:44,990 at the idea that sort of capitalistic greed 353 00:15:45,031 --> 00:15:48,561 is at the heart of social decay 354 00:15:48,599 --> 00:15:51,209 and maybe of Rhoda's pathology. 355 00:15:51,254 --> 00:15:54,394 - Could I have both stones? The garnet too? 356 00:15:54,431 --> 00:15:56,001 - Rhoda! - [laughs] 357 00:15:56,042 --> 00:15:57,612 - You know, that kind of rugged individualism 358 00:15:57,652 --> 00:16:01,002 in some ways kind of creates monsters 359 00:16:01,047 --> 00:16:02,737 like Rhoda, you know, 360 00:16:02,787 --> 00:16:05,087 who are willing to do whatever it takes 361 00:16:05,138 --> 00:16:08,268 to get what they want and to succeed. 362 00:16:08,315 --> 00:16:10,965 It's just a more pointed version 363 00:16:11,013 --> 00:16:13,583 of what capitalism encourages everybody to do. 364 00:16:13,624 --> 00:16:16,244 - I wish she were mine. 365 00:16:17,672 --> 00:16:19,672 narrator: What could be more frightening 366 00:16:19,717 --> 00:16:22,417 than a lone predator stalking us behind a mask of innocence? 367 00:16:23,939 --> 00:16:25,459 A pack of young wolves 368 00:16:25,506 --> 00:16:27,246 thirsting for your blood. 369 00:16:27,290 --> 00:16:32,210 ♪ 370 00:16:35,081 --> 00:16:37,691 narrator: You can never be entirely sure 371 00:16:37,735 --> 00:16:39,475 what kids are thinking. - [screams] 372 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:40,700 narrator: Or what they might do next. 373 00:16:40,738 --> 00:16:42,908 - Aah! 374 00:16:42,958 --> 00:16:44,868 narrator: When you gather them together, 375 00:16:44,916 --> 00:16:47,956 that unpredictability leads to fun, troubling, 376 00:16:48,007 --> 00:16:50,267 and transgressive horror films. 377 00:16:50,313 --> 00:16:52,793 [scary music] 378 00:16:52,837 --> 00:16:56,747 - Kids are a bit of a mystery, and so in that mystery, 379 00:16:56,798 --> 00:17:00,108 you can tuck some really dark forces. 380 00:17:00,149 --> 00:17:02,059 Maybe they're just being a weird kid, 381 00:17:02,108 --> 00:17:03,978 or maybe you're about to die. 382 00:17:04,023 --> 00:17:05,723 [horrific musical sting] 383 00:17:05,763 --> 00:17:07,243 narrator: Few children in film history 384 00:17:07,287 --> 00:17:10,197 are as mysterious or as deadly 385 00:17:10,246 --> 00:17:11,986 as the ones in "Village of the Damned." 386 00:17:12,031 --> 00:17:16,211 ♪ 387 00:17:16,252 --> 00:17:19,342 Five months after everyone in an English village 388 00:17:19,386 --> 00:17:20,946 falls unconscious, 389 00:17:20,996 --> 00:17:23,906 12 strange children are born. 390 00:17:23,955 --> 00:17:26,435 They are emotionless, hyper intelligent, 391 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,090 and have the power to read and control people's minds. 392 00:17:30,136 --> 00:17:32,486 - They're so malevolent, and they're so powerful, 393 00:17:32,529 --> 00:17:36,099 and you can't imagine the human race ever surviving 394 00:17:36,142 --> 00:17:39,102 the war with these kids, the way they get inside your head. 395 00:17:39,145 --> 00:17:42,095 narrator: We never know what led to their birth, 396 00:17:42,148 --> 00:17:43,928 but we instantly see 397 00:17:43,975 --> 00:17:46,495 that they are convinced of their absolute superiority 398 00:17:46,543 --> 00:17:47,983 to their parents. 399 00:17:48,023 --> 00:17:51,463 - You have to be taught to leave us alone. 400 00:17:51,505 --> 00:17:53,895 narrator: And that they have a hidden agenda. 401 00:17:53,942 --> 00:17:56,812 - Leave us alone. 402 00:17:56,858 --> 00:18:04,078 ♪ 403 00:18:05,127 --> 00:18:08,957 - It's also the innate fear that parents have, 404 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,130 that your child is here to replace you. 405 00:18:12,178 --> 00:18:14,178 - What are you going to do with that power? 406 00:18:14,223 --> 00:18:16,103 - Father, 407 00:18:16,138 --> 00:18:18,918 we know whatyou're trying to find out. 408 00:18:18,967 --> 00:18:21,877 It'd be better if youdidn't ask these questions. 409 00:18:21,926 --> 00:18:24,966 We want to learn from you. 410 00:18:25,016 --> 00:18:26,796 - They're here because you're leaving... 411 00:18:26,844 --> 00:18:28,634 - All right, that'll be all for the day. 412 00:18:28,672 --> 00:18:30,632 - And they're gonna take over. 413 00:18:30,674 --> 00:18:34,374 And the anxiety is that they're not gonna wait. 414 00:18:35,549 --> 00:18:37,199 narrator: It's no coincidence 415 00:18:37,246 --> 00:18:39,156 that the children bear a strong resemblance 416 00:18:39,205 --> 00:18:41,555 to fanatical Hitler Youth. 417 00:18:42,860 --> 00:18:45,170 Director Wolf Rilla's family fled Nazi Germany 418 00:18:45,211 --> 00:18:47,131 when he was 14. 419 00:18:47,169 --> 00:18:51,219 He had seen the indoctrination of minors firsthand. 420 00:18:51,260 --> 00:18:54,480 The Nazis were neither the first nor the last 421 00:18:54,524 --> 00:18:57,224 to realize that ideology can be used 422 00:18:57,266 --> 00:19:00,226 to turn children into pitiless killers. 423 00:19:00,269 --> 00:19:04,839 The 1970s, Cambodia's Khmer Rouge used teenagers 424 00:19:04,882 --> 00:19:07,152 to carry out a genocidal campaign 425 00:19:07,189 --> 00:19:09,969 that left nearly 2 million people dead, 426 00:19:10,018 --> 00:19:13,238 including a sizable number of their parents. 427 00:19:14,675 --> 00:19:18,195 Very loosely adapted from a short story by Stephen King, 428 00:19:18,244 --> 00:19:21,034 written when the Khmer Rouge was in power, 429 00:19:21,072 --> 00:19:22,902 "Children of the Corn" 430 00:19:22,944 --> 00:19:25,474 begins with the mass murder of all the adults 431 00:19:25,512 --> 00:19:28,342 in a small town by young religious zealots. 432 00:19:28,384 --> 00:19:30,694 - [grunts] - No! 433 00:19:30,734 --> 00:19:32,304 - Ay! - [grunts] 434 00:19:32,345 --> 00:19:34,165 - Stop it! - [grunting] 435 00:19:34,216 --> 00:19:35,866 - What "Children of the Corn" did, 436 00:19:35,913 --> 00:19:37,223 like a lot of, you know, 437 00:19:37,263 --> 00:19:39,003 button-pushing movies of the '80s, 438 00:19:39,047 --> 00:19:40,957 is that it made kids killers. 439 00:19:41,005 --> 00:19:42,525 - [gasps] 440 00:19:42,572 --> 00:19:43,882 - Mom! 441 00:19:43,921 --> 00:19:45,271 - In the '80s, 442 00:19:45,314 --> 00:19:47,274 it was very taboo to see kids killing adults, 443 00:19:47,316 --> 00:19:49,226 kids picking up knives, kids being violent. 444 00:19:49,275 --> 00:19:52,185 - Don't do it! [screaming] 445 00:19:55,672 --> 00:19:58,502 - "Welcome to Nebraska." 446 00:19:58,545 --> 00:20:00,585 narrator: Three years after the massacre, 447 00:20:00,634 --> 00:20:03,074 two travelers find themselves under attack 448 00:20:03,114 --> 00:20:04,814 by the town's corn-worshipping kids. 449 00:20:04,855 --> 00:20:06,065 - Aah! 450 00:20:06,117 --> 00:20:07,337 - Oh! - [screaming] 451 00:20:07,380 --> 00:20:09,080 - Outlander! 452 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:11,510 [children shouting] 453 00:20:11,558 --> 00:20:13,168 narrator: They're deemed outlanders 454 00:20:13,212 --> 00:20:16,042 who must be sacrificed to an invisible god 455 00:20:16,084 --> 00:20:18,964 called "He Who Walks Behind the Rows." 456 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,090 children: Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill! 457 00:20:23,134 --> 00:20:24,754 - I kind of love the concept 458 00:20:24,788 --> 00:20:26,788 of taking something so innocent and pure 459 00:20:26,834 --> 00:20:30,014 and turning it into something cruel and malicious. 460 00:20:30,054 --> 00:20:32,364 children: Praise God! Praise the Lord! 461 00:20:32,405 --> 00:20:34,755 - As parents, that's the last thing you want. 462 00:20:34,798 --> 00:20:36,098 You wanna shield your child 463 00:20:36,147 --> 00:20:37,927 from everything wrong in the world, 464 00:20:37,975 --> 00:20:40,495 and so to see them become a part of it is like a nightmare, 465 00:20:40,543 --> 00:20:41,813 which makes it scary. [laughs] 466 00:20:41,849 --> 00:20:45,069 ♪ 467 00:20:45,113 --> 00:20:48,033 narrator: The death cult is led by child preacher, Isaac, 468 00:20:48,072 --> 00:20:49,862 whose grammatical eccentricities 469 00:20:49,900 --> 00:20:51,690 rival Jedi Master Yoda. 470 00:20:51,728 --> 00:20:54,728 - Question not my judgment,Malachi. 471 00:20:54,775 --> 00:20:57,425 I am the giver of His word. 472 00:20:57,473 --> 00:21:00,043 narrator: Isaac's surly lieutenant 473 00:21:00,084 --> 00:21:02,224 is the scenery chewing Malachi. 474 00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:04,481 - We want to give you peace. 475 00:21:04,524 --> 00:21:06,054 Bring in the blood of the outlander! 476 00:21:06,090 --> 00:21:08,790 Outlander! Shut your mouth. 477 00:21:08,832 --> 00:21:10,232 - [grunts] - Aah! 478 00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:12,229 - It's one of those movies that somehow 479 00:21:12,271 --> 00:21:14,231 just got exploited to death. 480 00:21:14,273 --> 00:21:17,843 Like, the VHS 1980s audience 481 00:21:17,885 --> 00:21:19,965 just loved watching "Children of the Corn" movies 482 00:21:20,017 --> 00:21:21,187 for some reason. 483 00:21:21,236 --> 00:21:24,236 [otherworldly warbling] - No! 484 00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:29,113 [screaming] 485 00:21:29,157 --> 00:21:31,327 [explosion] 486 00:21:31,377 --> 00:21:34,337 - Well, what all these movies had in common 487 00:21:34,380 --> 00:21:36,560 was they were about kids 488 00:21:36,599 --> 00:21:39,599 supernaturally punishing their enemies, 489 00:21:39,646 --> 00:21:41,336 and I think that that is something 490 00:21:41,387 --> 00:21:45,347 that is extremely attractive to young people 491 00:21:45,391 --> 00:21:49,091 who feel that they have no control over their lives. 492 00:21:49,133 --> 00:21:51,613 - What is it with this corn? 493 00:21:51,658 --> 00:21:54,098 - [scoffs] You got me. 494 00:21:54,138 --> 00:21:56,178 - Look, there's a little girl. 495 00:21:56,227 --> 00:21:59,097 [uneasy music] 496 00:21:59,143 --> 00:22:01,843 ♪ 497 00:22:01,885 --> 00:22:03,495 narrator: But for a truly terrifying look 498 00:22:03,539 --> 00:22:06,019 at children turning on adults, 499 00:22:06,063 --> 00:22:08,373 there's a deep-cut horror film you have to see. 500 00:22:08,414 --> 00:22:11,114 ♪ 501 00:22:11,155 --> 00:22:13,285 - Tom! What's she doing? 502 00:22:13,332 --> 00:22:17,472 ♪ 503 00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:20,080 - There's a movie called "Who Can Kill a Child?" 504 00:22:20,121 --> 00:22:22,561 A Spanish movie which, um, involves 505 00:22:22,602 --> 00:22:25,822 an entire island filled with murderous children. 506 00:22:25,866 --> 00:22:28,776 [playful commotion] 507 00:22:28,825 --> 00:22:32,305 [horror music] 508 00:22:32,351 --> 00:22:34,921 ♪ 509 00:22:34,962 --> 00:22:38,712 It's like the protagonists are surrounded by wild dogs. 510 00:22:38,748 --> 00:22:40,048 They look cute, but they're gonna bite you. 511 00:22:40,097 --> 00:22:42,397 [eerie psychic tones] 512 00:22:42,448 --> 00:22:45,838 narrator: The children are infected by a psychic virus 513 00:22:45,886 --> 00:22:48,796 that compels them to kill every adult. 514 00:22:48,845 --> 00:22:51,805 Adults are powerless to defend themselves 515 00:22:51,848 --> 00:22:53,498 because who can kill a child? 516 00:22:56,462 --> 00:22:57,682 - No!Tom! 517 00:22:59,465 --> 00:23:00,675 - You don't wanna punch a child. 518 00:23:00,727 --> 00:23:01,987 You don't wanna kick a child. 519 00:23:02,032 --> 00:23:03,952 They're scary, but you're like, 520 00:23:03,991 --> 00:23:06,561 "I can't do anything. It's an actual child." 521 00:23:06,602 --> 00:23:10,912 ♪ 522 00:23:10,954 --> 00:23:13,964 And so it's a very unnerving thing 523 00:23:14,001 --> 00:23:16,221 to watch a scary child 524 00:23:16,264 --> 00:23:17,614 or a child with a knife or anything like that. 525 00:23:21,008 --> 00:23:23,358 [gunshot] - [gasps] 526 00:23:23,402 --> 00:23:25,582 narrator: The real horror of these films 527 00:23:25,621 --> 00:23:28,361 is watching children blinded by ideology, 528 00:23:28,407 --> 00:23:30,967 lacking empathy, filled with rage, 529 00:23:31,018 --> 00:23:32,408 capable of anything. 530 00:23:32,454 --> 00:23:34,504 - [screams] 531 00:23:34,543 --> 00:23:37,593 narrator: In other words, children behaving like adults. 532 00:23:37,633 --> 00:23:40,113 [gunshot] 533 00:23:40,157 --> 00:23:42,117 Few films have better expressed 534 00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:44,209 the fear that our children 535 00:23:44,248 --> 00:23:46,688 are twisted reflections of ourselves than "The Brood." 536 00:23:46,729 --> 00:23:48,249 ♪ 537 00:23:50,864 --> 00:23:53,004 - [grunts] 538 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,300 narrator: Mutant children begin murdering people 539 00:23:56,347 --> 00:23:57,957 a man's bitter ex-wife doesn't like. 540 00:23:58,001 --> 00:23:59,741 - Nola? 541 00:23:59,786 --> 00:24:01,786 - [screams] 542 00:24:01,831 --> 00:24:04,091 narrator: He suspects it's connected 543 00:24:04,138 --> 00:24:06,578 to her psychiatrist's radical treatment for anger. 544 00:24:06,619 --> 00:24:08,319 - [screams] 545 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,319 - This is David Cronenberg's 1979 masterpiece, 546 00:24:12,363 --> 00:24:14,323 "The Brood." - Aah! 547 00:24:14,365 --> 00:24:17,275 - That was another movie that I saw as a young person 548 00:24:17,325 --> 00:24:20,495 that just, um, kind of cracks open your mind, you know? 549 00:24:20,546 --> 00:24:23,456 [unsettling music] 550 00:24:23,505 --> 00:24:26,985 - David Cronenberg is one of the few directors 551 00:24:27,030 --> 00:24:30,380 who's able to take an exploitation subject 552 00:24:30,425 --> 00:24:32,205 such as a horror film 553 00:24:32,253 --> 00:24:34,733 but make it personal to him... 554 00:24:34,777 --> 00:24:37,687 - [screaming] 555 00:24:40,261 --> 00:24:41,871 - [screams] 556 00:24:41,915 --> 00:24:43,995 - And if it is possible, 557 00:24:44,047 --> 00:24:46,047 and I think it is possible, 558 00:24:46,093 --> 00:24:49,313 to make an art/horror film, 559 00:24:49,357 --> 00:24:52,577 David Cronenberg is one of the few who can do it. 560 00:24:56,146 --> 00:24:57,926 - And the thing with "The Brood" 561 00:24:57,974 --> 00:24:59,594 is he calls it his horror version 562 00:24:59,628 --> 00:25:01,458 of "Kramer vs. Kramer," 563 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:04,330 because he was going through, like, a bitter custody dispute 564 00:25:04,372 --> 00:25:06,592 at the time, and "The Brood" is his way of, um... 565 00:25:06,635 --> 00:25:09,595 [laughing] Dealing with it. 566 00:25:10,334 --> 00:25:12,604 - Art Hindle plays the husband 567 00:25:12,641 --> 00:25:15,121 to this woman played by Samantha Eggar, 568 00:25:15,165 --> 00:25:16,855 who has left him and gone 569 00:25:16,906 --> 00:25:18,556 and joined this, uh, 570 00:25:18,604 --> 00:25:21,964 experimental therapy commune 571 00:25:21,998 --> 00:25:24,308 which is run by a doctor named Hal Raglan, 572 00:25:24,348 --> 00:25:26,128 played by Oliver Reed. 573 00:25:26,176 --> 00:25:28,436 - Right now you're dreaming. 574 00:25:28,483 --> 00:25:30,963 From what Frank tells me, it was lousy from the very start. 575 00:25:31,007 --> 00:25:33,177 You never had anything real together. 576 00:25:34,271 --> 00:25:37,231 - The husband has been sending the daughter 577 00:25:37,274 --> 00:25:40,154 to go visit periodically and then he starts to believe 578 00:25:40,190 --> 00:25:42,800 that the mother is harming the daughter 579 00:25:42,845 --> 00:25:44,795 because the daughter keeps coming home with bruises 580 00:25:44,847 --> 00:25:46,587 and marks on her body. 581 00:25:46,632 --> 00:25:48,372 - And that's very unfair of him. 582 00:25:48,416 --> 00:25:50,196 That's very arrogant of him. 583 00:25:50,244 --> 00:25:53,074 - You mus'n't be too hardon him, Nola, sweetheart. 584 00:25:53,116 --> 00:25:55,676 He's just trying to bea good protective father. 585 00:25:55,728 --> 00:25:58,298 - She needs to stay very far away from her child, uh, 586 00:25:58,339 --> 00:26:01,079 but her body is reacting to this rage 587 00:26:01,124 --> 00:26:03,474 and manifesting these weird 588 00:26:03,518 --> 00:26:05,348 creature children. 589 00:26:05,389 --> 00:26:06,829 - [snarls] 590 00:26:06,869 --> 00:26:10,389 ♪ 591 00:26:10,438 --> 00:26:12,218 - They're children, Frank. 592 00:26:12,266 --> 00:26:15,356 Or exactly, they're the children of her rage. 593 00:26:15,399 --> 00:26:17,179 They're motivated only by her anger, 594 00:26:17,227 --> 00:26:19,797 whether that anger is conscious or subconscious. 595 00:26:21,057 --> 00:26:25,187 I mean, when--when Nola got cross with Candy last weekend, 596 00:26:25,235 --> 00:26:28,625 annoyed really, the brood beat her. 597 00:26:28,674 --> 00:26:31,464 - A lot of films have an idea 598 00:26:31,502 --> 00:26:35,072 of one of your, like, fears or anxieties being made flesh, 599 00:26:35,115 --> 00:26:37,675 and in that movie, they actually do it. 600 00:26:37,726 --> 00:26:39,156 That's what the movie is about. 601 00:26:39,206 --> 00:26:40,986 People are so angry 602 00:26:41,034 --> 00:26:43,954 that some people can develop physical welts 603 00:26:43,993 --> 00:26:45,563 through their anger, 604 00:26:45,604 --> 00:26:48,264 and one woman can actually develop extra beings, 605 00:26:48,302 --> 00:26:49,522 she is so angry. 606 00:26:49,564 --> 00:26:52,524 [brood snarling] 607 00:26:52,567 --> 00:26:53,737 - [cackles] - Aah! 608 00:26:55,526 --> 00:26:58,356 - The look of them, it was so imaginative, you know? 609 00:26:58,399 --> 00:27:01,359 They have no navel, and they can't speak, 610 00:27:01,402 --> 00:27:03,972 and they have a cleft palate. 611 00:27:04,013 --> 00:27:05,583 It's just, you know, they were born of something 612 00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:06,934 that should never have happened. 613 00:27:09,062 --> 00:27:10,722 - There's a really creepy shot 614 00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:12,809 where they kidnap the main character's kid, 615 00:27:12,848 --> 00:27:15,328 the two parka monsters, 616 00:27:15,372 --> 00:27:17,292 and they're just three kids walking down a road 617 00:27:17,331 --> 00:27:19,641 in the snow and a car drives past. 618 00:27:21,901 --> 00:27:23,511 - Kids in horror together 619 00:27:23,554 --> 00:27:26,084 is always something that's unsettling to watch. 620 00:27:26,122 --> 00:27:28,522 - Ooh, you do-- this margin. 621 00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:32,739 ♪ 622 00:27:32,781 --> 00:27:34,651 - A scene, like, where the school teacher is murdered 623 00:27:34,696 --> 00:27:36,516 by the brood in front of the kids 624 00:27:36,567 --> 00:27:38,737 is so deeply distressing... 625 00:27:38,787 --> 00:27:41,307 - [screams] - Don't--oh! 626 00:27:41,355 --> 00:27:44,615 - [screaming] - Aah, ow! 627 00:27:44,663 --> 00:27:47,193 [screams] 628 00:27:47,230 --> 00:27:49,620 You know, the guardian is, like, killed 629 00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:53,108 in front of the kids by these monsters is, like, terrifying. 630 00:27:53,149 --> 00:27:56,369 One most of the most, like, terrifying scenes in cinema. 631 00:27:56,413 --> 00:28:00,773 [children whimpering and crying] 632 00:28:00,809 --> 00:28:02,459 - And I'm sure that's a scene 633 00:28:02,506 --> 00:28:04,506 where a lot of critics wrote that film off 634 00:28:04,552 --> 00:28:06,122 on the basis of that scene alone. 635 00:28:06,162 --> 00:28:07,862 It was like, "No, you've crossed a line here." 636 00:28:07,903 --> 00:28:10,563 ♪ 637 00:28:10,601 --> 00:28:12,651 - Art Hindle discovers what's happening 638 00:28:12,691 --> 00:28:13,741 and he has to confront her. 639 00:28:13,779 --> 00:28:16,649 [dramatic music] 640 00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:19,435 ♪ 641 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,960 When he actually sees what his wife is doing... 642 00:28:22,004 --> 00:28:23,614 [laughs] 643 00:28:23,658 --> 00:28:25,968 And you see her manifesting one of these-- 644 00:28:26,008 --> 00:28:27,748 these children and licking it 645 00:28:27,793 --> 00:28:30,713 like a--like a mother cat licks a newborn kitten. 646 00:28:33,276 --> 00:28:34,836 It is sensational. 647 00:28:34,887 --> 00:28:37,107 - Oh, God, Nola. 648 00:28:38,934 --> 00:28:41,024 - No. 649 00:28:41,067 --> 00:28:42,627 I disgust you. 650 00:28:42,677 --> 00:28:44,417 - The film is not especially sympathetic 651 00:28:44,461 --> 00:28:45,851 towards the mother, 652 00:28:45,898 --> 00:28:47,418 the female character, Samantha Eggar. 653 00:28:47,464 --> 00:28:49,644 - You hate me. 654 00:28:49,684 --> 00:28:52,304 - But if you talk to a lot of women 655 00:28:52,339 --> 00:28:54,079 who love that film, you know, 656 00:28:54,123 --> 00:28:55,783 they get very different things out of it. 657 00:28:55,821 --> 00:28:58,211 - 30 seconds after you're born, you have a past, 658 00:28:58,258 --> 00:29:00,168 and 60 seconds after that, 659 00:29:00,216 --> 00:29:02,386 you start to lie to yourself about it. 660 00:29:02,436 --> 00:29:04,216 - The anxiety around having children, 661 00:29:04,264 --> 00:29:07,484 around loving children, loving them too much, 662 00:29:07,528 --> 00:29:09,308 um, wanting to destroy them... 663 00:29:09,356 --> 00:29:12,356 What if there's a sort of mutant quality to the-- 664 00:29:12,402 --> 00:29:14,232 to the children we bring in to the world? 665 00:29:16,711 --> 00:29:18,451 narrator: The ultimate message of the film 666 00:29:18,495 --> 00:29:22,015 is that broken marriages create broken children. 667 00:29:22,064 --> 00:29:24,684 - I love the end of "The Brood" 668 00:29:24,719 --> 00:29:26,849 where it closes in on the little girl, 669 00:29:26,895 --> 00:29:30,285 and you see the rage blisters developing on her arm. 670 00:29:30,333 --> 00:29:32,253 She's Mommy's girl. 671 00:29:34,947 --> 00:29:36,947 narrator: Society expects parents 672 00:29:36,992 --> 00:29:39,212 to love their children unconditionally, 673 00:29:39,255 --> 00:29:41,335 no matter how awful they may be, 674 00:29:41,388 --> 00:29:43,298 but everyone has their limits. 675 00:29:43,346 --> 00:29:44,996 [horrific musical sting] 676 00:29:45,044 --> 00:29:46,614 ♪ 677 00:29:49,918 --> 00:29:51,658 - Honey? 678 00:29:51,702 --> 00:29:53,052 Frank? 679 00:29:53,095 --> 00:29:55,045 - Somebody kicking again? 680 00:29:55,097 --> 00:29:57,267 - No, it stopped. 681 00:29:58,318 --> 00:30:00,098 narrator: Some men have problems adapting 682 00:30:00,146 --> 00:30:02,096 to the increased responsibilities 683 00:30:02,148 --> 00:30:04,148 and stresses that come with fatherhood. 684 00:30:04,193 --> 00:30:06,153 - We're slowly but surely poisoning ourselves, 685 00:30:06,195 --> 00:30:07,715 you know that? 686 00:30:07,762 --> 00:30:09,112 - Fine world to bring a kid into, fellas. 687 00:30:10,896 --> 00:30:13,066 narrator: The problem is particularly acute 688 00:30:13,115 --> 00:30:15,675 when your child is a monster baby. 689 00:30:15,726 --> 00:30:17,026 [horrific musical sting] 690 00:30:17,076 --> 00:30:20,946 - [screaming] 691 00:30:25,867 --> 00:30:28,087 - "It's Alive" was made in the mid '70s 692 00:30:28,130 --> 00:30:29,780 by Larry Cohen. 693 00:30:31,742 --> 00:30:35,532 And it's the story of an experimental drug 694 00:30:35,572 --> 00:30:36,922 that has the effect 695 00:30:36,965 --> 00:30:39,525 of turning these babies 696 00:30:39,576 --> 00:30:42,796 into little demonic-- 697 00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:44,671 You know the song "Baby Shark?" [laughs] 698 00:30:44,712 --> 00:30:46,542 - [wailing] 699 00:30:46,583 --> 00:30:49,023 - Baby sharks. You know, they are babies, 700 00:30:49,064 --> 00:30:51,284 but they have giant fangs, and they're carnivorous. 701 00:30:53,112 --> 00:30:55,032 - Rick Baker did this baby which, you know, 702 00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:56,900 is--is fairly inanimate, 703 00:30:56,942 --> 00:31:00,292 and--and so you've gotta be careful how you cut around it 704 00:31:00,336 --> 00:31:01,636 because it's not really very mobile. 705 00:31:01,685 --> 00:31:03,855 It's more of an idea. 706 00:31:03,905 --> 00:31:06,905 And it's a very clever movie. 707 00:31:06,952 --> 00:31:09,132 narrator: "It's Alive" was a low-budget movie 708 00:31:09,171 --> 00:31:11,391 that explored big ideas. 709 00:31:11,434 --> 00:31:12,744 - It's a human, doctor. 710 00:31:12,783 --> 00:31:14,353 That's what's disgusting to you, isn't it? 711 00:31:14,394 --> 00:31:17,014 - It kills like an animal. 712 00:31:17,049 --> 00:31:18,829 - And when we find it, 713 00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:21,397 we're gonna have to destroy itlike one. 714 00:31:21,444 --> 00:31:23,934 narrator: The rampaging baby isn't evil; 715 00:31:23,969 --> 00:31:26,489 it's a frightened and confused newborn. 716 00:31:26,536 --> 00:31:28,406 The real villains of "It's Alive" 717 00:31:28,451 --> 00:31:30,931 are the mother's untrustworthy doctors 718 00:31:30,976 --> 00:31:33,326 who are being paid off by drug companies 719 00:31:33,369 --> 00:31:35,149 to push their defective products. 720 00:31:35,197 --> 00:31:37,977 - We have an openingon the board 721 00:31:38,026 --> 00:31:40,936 of our researchand development department. 722 00:31:40,986 --> 00:31:43,986 Now, we wouldn't want peopleto lose faith in us, would we? 723 00:31:47,514 --> 00:31:51,044 - In the '50s and '60s, there was a drug called Thalidomide 724 00:31:51,083 --> 00:31:53,223 that was sold to expectant mothers, 725 00:31:53,259 --> 00:31:56,569 and it created horrific birth defects. 726 00:31:56,610 --> 00:32:00,180 - Mrs. Davis, I don't supposeyou took the pills I gave you? 727 00:32:00,222 --> 00:32:02,962 You really should, you know. 728 00:32:03,008 --> 00:32:04,968 - Maybe it's all the pills I've been taking over the years 729 00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:07,100 that brought this on. 730 00:32:07,142 --> 00:32:10,622 - This is a movie that came out of a real horror. 731 00:32:10,667 --> 00:32:14,057 - Where are you? Look out, Charley! 732 00:32:14,106 --> 00:32:16,016 - [snarling] - [screams] 733 00:32:16,064 --> 00:32:17,594 [gunshot] 734 00:32:17,631 --> 00:32:19,591 - "It's Alive" dramatizes the idea of, you know, 735 00:32:19,633 --> 00:32:21,983 a monster kind of born, you know, 736 00:32:22,027 --> 00:32:23,937 and it's because of environmental factors 737 00:32:23,985 --> 00:32:26,595 so it works in that whole eco-horror theme, 738 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,640 but it's also just very much about the idea, you know, 739 00:32:29,686 --> 00:32:31,906 that for men, childbirth is something 740 00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:34,470 over which they're going to exercise little control, 741 00:32:34,517 --> 00:32:36,077 and, you know, 742 00:32:36,128 --> 00:32:37,738 what's going to happen, you know, with this birth? 743 00:32:37,781 --> 00:32:40,611 [baby screaming] - [screaming] 744 00:32:42,221 --> 00:32:44,271 - With his monster child on the loose, 745 00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:46,360 the father's life falls apart. 746 00:32:46,399 --> 00:32:47,699 - Mr. Davis,what did it look like, 747 00:32:47,748 --> 00:32:48,968 if you were to describeit to us? 748 00:32:49,010 --> 00:32:50,750 - Leave me alone. I've got nothing to say. 749 00:32:50,794 --> 00:32:51,974 narrator: When the story gets out, he loses his job; 750 00:32:52,013 --> 00:32:54,023 he's harassed by the media; 751 00:32:54,059 --> 00:32:56,149 and his family life crumbles. 752 00:32:56,191 --> 00:32:57,411 - Get outta my way! 753 00:32:57,453 --> 00:32:58,933 I don't know what it looks like. 754 00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:00,587 - Where is your baby? - Never mind my baby! 755 00:33:00,630 --> 00:33:02,500 Leave my wife out of it, you understand me? 756 00:33:02,545 --> 00:33:04,455 - John Ryan in "It's Alive," 757 00:33:04,504 --> 00:33:06,164 an absolutely amazing performance. 758 00:33:06,201 --> 00:33:08,251 He's really powerful, really compelling. 759 00:33:08,290 --> 00:33:09,940 - And why is everybodylooking at me? 760 00:33:11,337 --> 00:33:13,337 Yeah. 761 00:33:13,382 --> 00:33:15,862 Like it's my own fleshand blood or something. 762 00:33:15,906 --> 00:33:17,426 [tragic music] 763 00:33:17,473 --> 00:33:20,093 Well, it's not,understand? 764 00:33:20,128 --> 00:33:21,558 ♪ 765 00:33:21,608 --> 00:33:23,348 It's no relation to me. 766 00:33:23,392 --> 00:33:25,612 narrator: By the film's climax, 767 00:33:25,655 --> 00:33:27,345 the father is helping the police 768 00:33:27,396 --> 00:33:29,086 chase his killer newborn 769 00:33:29,137 --> 00:33:31,047 through the storm drains of LA. 770 00:33:31,096 --> 00:33:33,396 - There's the innate funny of, like, 771 00:33:33,446 --> 00:33:34,706 guys with shotguns going out to hunt babies. 772 00:33:34,751 --> 00:33:37,621 - [agonized screaming] 773 00:33:42,368 --> 00:33:44,368 - That moment when he realizes, like, he can't 774 00:33:44,413 --> 00:33:47,203 'cause it's his child is just--that's amazing. 775 00:33:47,242 --> 00:33:48,772 That's an incredible sequence. 776 00:33:48,809 --> 00:33:51,069 - Can you hear me, Frank? 777 00:33:51,116 --> 00:33:53,466 It can't be saved!It's gotta die! 778 00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:55,559 [baby crying] Do you hear me, Frank? 779 00:33:55,598 --> 00:33:58,468 [suspenseful music] 780 00:33:58,514 --> 00:34:00,914 ♪ 781 00:34:00,951 --> 00:34:03,261 - John Ryan's dealing with those conflicting emotions 782 00:34:03,302 --> 00:34:04,912 of, "My kid's a monster, but he's my kid. 783 00:34:04,955 --> 00:34:06,215 I must protect him," 784 00:34:06,261 --> 00:34:07,261 and that's, you know, a primal urge. 785 00:34:07,306 --> 00:34:09,606 [baby crying] 786 00:34:09,656 --> 00:34:11,656 narrator: Like many confused patriarchs 787 00:34:11,701 --> 00:34:13,491 who weathered the social storms 788 00:34:13,529 --> 00:34:15,139 of the '60s and '70s, 789 00:34:15,183 --> 00:34:17,273 the father comes to accept his problem child. 790 00:34:17,316 --> 00:34:18,796 [sirens blaring] 791 00:34:18,839 --> 00:34:21,539 - It can't hurt anybody! 792 00:34:21,581 --> 00:34:23,581 Hey, look, if you fellas shoot, you're gonna shoot me. 793 00:34:23,626 --> 00:34:25,106 Now, put the weapon down. Look, it's harmless. 794 00:34:25,150 --> 00:34:26,060 - Take it easy.Take it easy. 795 00:34:26,107 --> 00:34:29,237 - [crying] 796 00:34:29,284 --> 00:34:31,504 narrator: Other films have tried to recapture 797 00:34:31,547 --> 00:34:33,197 the shock of "It's Alive." 798 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,600 - Aah! - [screaming] 799 00:34:38,641 --> 00:34:41,211 - [screams] 800 00:34:41,253 --> 00:34:43,823 narrator: But no one has even attempted to top 801 00:34:43,864 --> 00:34:46,004 the ultimate evil baby movie: 802 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,040 "Eraserhead." 803 00:34:48,086 --> 00:34:49,736 ♪ 804 00:34:52,742 --> 00:34:55,442 narrator: Of all the movies ever made 805 00:34:55,484 --> 00:34:57,234 about the terrors of parenthood, 806 00:34:57,269 --> 00:35:00,139 nothing to compares to David Lynch's masterpiece, 807 00:35:00,185 --> 00:35:01,445 "Eraserhead." 808 00:35:01,490 --> 00:35:04,360 [terrifying music] 809 00:35:04,406 --> 00:35:06,276 ♪ 810 00:35:06,321 --> 00:35:09,591 - "Eraserhead" is not what people would think of 811 00:35:09,629 --> 00:35:12,199 as horror in the traditional sense, but, boy, 812 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:14,290 that's what makes horror such an interesting genre, 813 00:35:14,329 --> 00:35:15,809 'cause you can fit so many things in it. 814 00:35:15,852 --> 00:35:18,292 Because as an adult, 815 00:35:18,333 --> 00:35:22,213 I can't think of very many movies I found that disturbing 816 00:35:22,250 --> 00:35:23,560 and horrifying and scary. 817 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:30,169 ♪ 818 00:35:30,215 --> 00:35:33,125 - Lynch is just one of those filmmakers 819 00:35:33,174 --> 00:35:35,004 who--he opens the medium up for you, you know? 820 00:35:35,045 --> 00:35:36,865 Like, you watch a Lynch film and you realize, 821 00:35:36,917 --> 00:35:38,697 "Oh, like, there's so much that can be done." 822 00:35:38,745 --> 00:35:41,435 [smoke exhausts] 823 00:35:41,487 --> 00:35:43,917 narrator: "Eraserhead's" plot defies description, 824 00:35:43,967 --> 00:35:47,277 but it begins as the movie's protagonist, Henry, 825 00:35:47,319 --> 00:35:50,189 arrives for dinner with his girlfriend, Mary, 826 00:35:50,235 --> 00:35:52,015 at her parents' house. 827 00:35:52,062 --> 00:35:53,932 - [moaning] 828 00:35:53,977 --> 00:35:57,717 - It's completely surreal and a completely alien world, 829 00:35:57,764 --> 00:36:00,204 but so sticks to its own rules, 830 00:36:00,245 --> 00:36:03,285 that it just attains a reality all its own. 831 00:36:03,335 --> 00:36:06,465 - [crying] 832 00:36:06,512 --> 00:36:08,992 - She'll be all right in a minute. 833 00:36:09,036 --> 00:36:10,986 - [cries] 834 00:36:11,038 --> 00:36:12,648 - Every time I see the film, I see something different. 835 00:36:12,692 --> 00:36:14,042 I have a different experience. 836 00:36:14,084 --> 00:36:15,354 Scenes that disturbed me now make me laugh, 837 00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:16,700 things that made me laugh now disturb me, 838 00:36:16,739 --> 00:36:18,569 often simultaneously. 839 00:36:18,611 --> 00:36:22,181 - You're very bad trouble if you won't cooperate. 840 00:36:22,223 --> 00:36:25,143 [heavy breathing] 841 00:36:29,752 --> 00:36:31,582 - Well, I... 842 00:36:34,061 --> 00:36:36,061 Mary! 843 00:36:36,106 --> 00:36:38,016 - Mother! [crying] 844 00:36:38,065 --> 00:36:41,455 - So much of Lynch is sort of, like, deliberately wrong. 845 00:36:41,503 --> 00:36:44,293 - There's a baby. It's at the hospital. 846 00:36:44,332 --> 00:36:46,772 - Mom! - And you're the father. 847 00:36:48,162 --> 00:36:50,212 - That's impossible.It's only been-- 848 00:36:50,251 --> 00:36:52,251 - Mother, they're still not sure it is a baby! 849 00:36:52,297 --> 00:36:54,997 - It's premature, but there's a baby! 850 00:36:55,038 --> 00:36:57,218 - And it's just wrong in the right way. 851 00:37:01,654 --> 00:37:04,794 - The first thing you see onscreen in "Eraserhead" 852 00:37:04,831 --> 00:37:08,141 is, like--is Henry, his head is just floating in space, 853 00:37:08,182 --> 00:37:12,012 and he's emitting all of these umbilical weird creatures 854 00:37:12,055 --> 00:37:13,445 out of his mouth. 855 00:37:13,492 --> 00:37:16,452 [organ music] 856 00:37:16,495 --> 00:37:20,755 ♪ 857 00:37:20,803 --> 00:37:23,683 - And then when you see The Lady in the Radiator, 858 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:24,759 they're falling from the ceiling, 859 00:37:24,807 --> 00:37:25,767 and she's stepping on them. 860 00:37:25,808 --> 00:37:26,848 [bursting squish] 861 00:37:32,337 --> 00:37:34,897 She's stepping on these creatures that he has-- 862 00:37:34,948 --> 00:37:36,858 These, like, weird, ugly creatures 863 00:37:36,906 --> 00:37:39,126 that he's birthed. 864 00:37:39,169 --> 00:37:41,349 [bursting squish] 865 00:37:44,044 --> 00:37:45,924 - And then she's just singing, "In Heaven Everything is Fine." 866 00:37:45,959 --> 00:37:49,309 - ♪ In heaven 867 00:37:49,354 --> 00:37:52,884 ♪ Everything is fine 868 00:37:52,922 --> 00:37:55,802 ♪ In heaven 869 00:37:55,838 --> 00:37:59,318 ♪ Everything is fine 870 00:37:59,364 --> 00:38:01,454 - It's, like, she's just assuring him, 871 00:38:01,496 --> 00:38:03,756 like, "No matter what kind of ugly creature 872 00:38:03,803 --> 00:38:06,723 you give birth to, everything's gonna be okay." 873 00:38:06,762 --> 00:38:11,682 - ♪ You got your good things 874 00:38:11,724 --> 00:38:14,864 ♪ And I've got mine 875 00:38:16,990 --> 00:38:18,730 - So many people told me how weird it was, 876 00:38:18,774 --> 00:38:22,004 and I didn't--I go, "Oh, this is a movie about a guy 877 00:38:22,038 --> 00:38:24,518 "you know, afraid of getting married 878 00:38:24,563 --> 00:38:27,003 and having a kid, you know?" [laughs] 879 00:38:27,043 --> 00:38:30,003 [baby crying] 880 00:38:30,046 --> 00:38:32,956 [wind howling] 881 00:38:33,006 --> 00:38:34,786 And you watch it, and you go, 882 00:38:34,834 --> 00:38:36,714 "I bet this guy was, you know, married and had a kid 883 00:38:36,749 --> 00:38:38,049 and was freaked out." 884 00:38:38,098 --> 00:38:39,358 - Shut up! 885 00:38:39,404 --> 00:38:42,324 [baby continues crying] 886 00:38:44,452 --> 00:38:46,022 Shut up! 887 00:38:46,062 --> 00:38:48,852 - And then I, you know, read his book, 888 00:38:48,891 --> 00:38:50,201 and, yeah, he was. [laughs] 889 00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:51,680 You know, it was just, like, 890 00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:53,770 it was an artistic expression of his fears. 891 00:38:53,809 --> 00:38:56,379 - I can't stand it! I'm going home. 892 00:38:56,421 --> 00:38:59,821 - Getting this girl pregnant who's a little crazy, 893 00:38:59,859 --> 00:39:02,859 and she doesn't like him, and, you know, 894 00:39:02,905 --> 00:39:04,425 and they have this really acrimonious relationship. 895 00:39:04,472 --> 00:39:06,042 - You're on vacation now! 896 00:39:06,082 --> 00:39:08,432 You can take care of it for a night! 897 00:39:08,476 --> 00:39:10,216 - And the fear of having a baby, 898 00:39:10,260 --> 00:39:12,390 and what if that baby is deformed? 899 00:39:12,437 --> 00:39:16,137 [rain pours] 900 00:39:17,485 --> 00:39:21,095 - "Eraserhead," I think, more than any evil child film 901 00:39:21,141 --> 00:39:26,761 perfectly encapsulates the anxiety of a parent. 902 00:39:26,799 --> 00:39:28,799 - [pained gurgles] 903 00:39:28,844 --> 00:39:31,194 [tense music] 904 00:39:31,238 --> 00:39:34,758 - That what you will give birth to 905 00:39:34,807 --> 00:39:37,457 is this uncontrollable monster. [laughing] 906 00:39:37,505 --> 00:39:44,765 ♪ 907 00:39:45,557 --> 00:39:47,857 - I always remember when the baby's crying, 908 00:39:47,907 --> 00:39:50,127 and it's in the night 909 00:39:50,170 --> 00:39:52,780 and then he turns on the light 910 00:39:52,825 --> 00:39:54,865 and--and the baby has all the sores over his face. 911 00:39:54,914 --> 00:39:56,964 - [pained breathing] 912 00:39:57,003 --> 00:40:00,403 - Jack Nance goes... both: "Oh, you are sick." 913 00:40:00,441 --> 00:40:03,051 - [laughs] I was like, "Jesus Christ." 914 00:40:03,096 --> 00:40:06,056 - [panting and crying] 915 00:40:06,099 --> 00:40:08,189 [disturbing music] 916 00:40:08,231 --> 00:40:10,501 - Of course the ending where he kills the baby. 917 00:40:10,538 --> 00:40:17,458 ♪ 918 00:40:19,765 --> 00:40:21,195 I mean, every time I see that film, 919 00:40:21,244 --> 00:40:22,864 I'm shocked at that ending 920 00:40:22,898 --> 00:40:24,468 because it seems to rush at you. 921 00:40:24,509 --> 00:40:29,779 ♪ 922 00:40:29,818 --> 00:40:31,468 And just knock the wind out of you. 923 00:40:31,516 --> 00:40:34,386 [blaring industrial humming] 924 00:40:35,781 --> 00:40:38,171 I guess he transcends, right? 925 00:40:38,218 --> 00:40:41,528 And then he's embraced by The Lady in the Radiator. 926 00:40:41,569 --> 00:40:44,619 [blaring industrial humming] 927 00:40:44,659 --> 00:40:47,269 - You don't know exactly what it meant literally 928 00:40:47,314 --> 00:40:50,754 to know what it meant figuratively, subtextually. 929 00:40:50,796 --> 00:40:53,626 [soft piano music] 930 00:40:53,668 --> 00:40:56,628 It's a pretty unique movie 931 00:40:56,671 --> 00:40:58,721 that stands alone, you know, in that way. 932 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,280 - [crying] 933 00:41:01,328 --> 00:41:04,328 - It's really unnerving, but it means something. 934 00:41:04,374 --> 00:41:08,344 It's not just kind of surface and there for effect. 935 00:41:08,378 --> 00:41:11,078 It's just very honest and heartbreaking. 936 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,560 ♪ 937 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,560 [scary music] 938 00:41:14,602 --> 00:41:17,212 narrator: The chilling children and terrible tykes 939 00:41:17,257 --> 00:41:18,687 of the movies can be frightening, 940 00:41:18,737 --> 00:41:19,997 especially if you're a parent. 941 00:41:20,042 --> 00:41:21,872 - [screams] 942 00:41:21,914 --> 00:41:24,354 narrator: But they can also be oddly comforting. 943 00:41:24,394 --> 00:41:27,014 - [screaming] 944 00:41:27,049 --> 00:41:28,529 narrator: Showing us that no matter how 945 00:41:28,573 --> 00:41:30,663 difficult your son or daughter may be, 946 00:41:30,705 --> 00:41:32,265 things could be much worse. 947 00:41:32,315 --> 00:41:34,225 ♪ 948 00:41:34,274 --> 00:41:36,764 So if you're thinking of having a baby, 949 00:41:36,798 --> 00:41:39,058 but having second thoughts, don't worry. 950 00:41:39,105 --> 00:41:42,535 Your kids will probably turn out just fine. 951 00:41:42,587 --> 00:41:43,497 - [screaming] - [screaming]