[ananda] tonight on part one of the unexpected tell-all.
The things I heard him say to you is offensive and rude.
Okay.
You have to learn to accept criticism.
You guys can't just attack jason.
Everyone is just worried for you.
Like, we're checking up on you. You know what I'm saying?
We don't need your two cents.
[ananda] all five families come together for the first time
to discuss their journeys through teen pregnancy
and parenthood.
You know what? You got another girl pregnant.
-[all] what? -[woman] oh, my god.
Learn to control ourselves. Keep our pants on.
Why would I want to have sex when my vagina just ripped in half?
[ananda] shocking updates are shared.
-I'm getting a boob job in two weeks. -Oh.
Yeah.
Where are you at with the status of, like, a paternity test?
Now, I swear to god I'll walk out.
Oh, my [bleep] god.
What's going on?
Shannon went back to jail last week
'cause she violated parole.
Let's get our facts correct.
[ananda] loved ones confront one another.
Like...
I think there's similarities between jason and aden...
Don't diss like aden like that.
I wanted to wring his neck.
Hate me all you want, I don't care what people have to say to me.
-[all exclaiming] -you shut your mouth!
[ananda] and emotions hit an all-time high.
I literally have nobody, like, I have nobody, like, at all.
I never wanted something stupid.
To make them feel like I loved y'all any less, you know?
I'm like, holy [bleep], she's, like, being mistreated.
It is hard to deal with it.
[jason speaking]
[ananda] it all starts right now.
-Say we're going to the tell-all. -We're going to the tell-all.
Hey, mila.
♪ my rules, my way I told you I don't play your games ♪
[woman speaking]
are you going to talk to ernie before the day's end?
We'll see how it goes.
[man speaking]
-I think so. -Yes.
I really look forward to talking to kylen.
[jason] what?
I want to tell her not to put up with anybody's [bleep].
No matter who they are.
[alex speaking]
oh, gosh.
-Tiarra, melissa, tyra. -Ladies.
-[indistinct chatter] -hi.
Where's her baby daddy? Wasn't he here?
Oh, no, no, he's downstairs with the kids.
Oh, he's not, like, participating?
I don't think so.
So, he really got a kid with another girl?
Hmm.
[man] three, two...
Hello, and welcome to part one of the unexpected tell-all.
I'm ananda lewis, and I'm here with all seven of our young moms
and their mothers with the exception of kylen's mom, marie,
who is joining us remotely from new hampshire.
-Hi, marie. -Hi.
[ananda] I'm so sorry you couldn't be here in person,
but thank you for participating.
We appreciate you being here.
-Thank you. -I want to note that we do have some of the dads
watching from backstage.
However, aden declined to be here today
and while alex is in the building,
he has decided not to participate.
You know how we can hear them, can they hear us?
[ananda] as each of you know, moms and grandmas alike,
having a baby at such a young age comes with
its own set of difficulties.
And before we get started, I want to take a look back
at some of the highlights from your stories.
Here they are.
I wasn't, like, hoping to get pregnant this soon.
But I wasn't, like, disappointed about it,
I was definitely excited when I found out
and, like, very happy about it.
I was shocked. I just looked up
and I was, like...
Wasn't planned. Just...
An oopsie.
I have this sort of thing where I don't like condoms and I don't use them.
Well, you put it on and then took it off.
[laughs]
-eew. -[laughs]
-oh, my god. -That's what happened.
[child speaking]
I don't know, I have to call grandma and ask her a question.
I as, like, a 14 and 15-year-old girl,
I pictured 20-year-old lilly to be this girl
that, lik, somehow was really rich, but didn't have a job.
Doing whatever I wanted when I wanted to do it.
And now, boom, here I am, 20 years old
with two kids, and a fiance.
-A baby girl. -A baby girl.
Tyra is not pregnant.
We have five generations of teen mothers in my family.
The crazy thing is I never thought that
I would be a teen parent.
And, yes, my mom had the, like, sex talk with me.
But did I listen? No, obviously not.
So, this is a dilation chart.
-Oh, my god. -[laughs]
does it freak you out a little bit? [laughs]
yeah, that freaks me out.
I'm scared of, like [bleep] myself during birth.
It makes me want to [bleep] cry
that I can't see my kid come into this world.
And I waited three [bleep] days for it.
No, it doesn't, you're still seeing him.
Kylen got me kicked out of the hospital because
I just really didn't agree with the epidural
and it made me lose it, so...
It's her fault.
This is matteo.
He said that was rough.
Good night.
No, no, no. It's an unbearable breakable love,
I feel like.
It's an undescribable feeling being a mom.
[ananda] marie, I think I see you actually crying.
What's making you emotional?
You know,
so much emotion and pride for...
I wasn't there for the birth because of covid
and other things.
Do you wish you had her in there at all?
No, I was fine.
-I mean, I'm sure she wanted to be in there. -Yeah.
-But that didn't-- -I wanted my boyfriend more.
-[clapping] -[laughs]
[jason] I love it.
I thought I was gonna miss the birth.
She was in.
In labor, her water broke. I missed that.
Because after they put the epidural and they kicked me out.
-For what though? -Because the doctors were, like,
it's a good idea trying to talk her into it
and I was, like, it has fentanyl, blah, blah, blah.
It was scary to watch him coming at you like that when you were in labor.
He doesn't always act that way.
But at the end of the day, like, it's still there,
like, the root of it.
-What parts of it, is it how -whenever I used
-he talks to her? -To watch aden. Yeah, I mean, it's not okay.
I talk to him the same way, let alone...
But even if it's that way, it's still so toxic and bad.
-Like, it's so... -...Like that on tv...
It's worse in person. It's worse when you're in private.
It definitely is and, like, last year,
I would defend aden till, like, no other
just because I loved him and I was, like,
I don't... Like, you don't want your person...
You don't have to stand up for him.
And we were both just under such a stressful situation.
-May I say something? -[ananda] sure.
Yeah.
Um...
I'm a firm believer that the father if they're gonna step up,
he should have been there.
So, as much as I wanted to, I believe that
was more important for them.
That's big of you, marie, because I know it was hard on you.
Yeah.
Well, we do have a number of now grandmas
that were teen moms as well.
-Mm-hmm. -Kim, erica, candice. Who else?
Melissa, right. So, I just want to know,
was there anything happening to prevent these pregnancies?
Was anybody on birth control?
-I was on birth control both times. -[ananda] what?
It didn't work.
You were, you were...
What is--
birth control's yes or no. What is this?
-That's like being kind of pregnant. -[overlapping chatter]
hey, can we ask if the guys are doing anything to help the...
Because it's not just you girls.
[ananda] they were using condoms?
-No. -No?
-Sorry, no. -Oh, okay.
Um, kylen, what about you?
Were you doing anything to prevent and protect yourself?
I'd forget to take it all the time.
You probably didn't feel like you had to
with your professional raw dogger.
[all laughing]
yeah.
[lawrence] is she talking about how everybody's, like,
trying to prevent pregnancy?
No pull out game.
Imagine if she would have said, "no, my man's a professional raw dogger."
I would have been so happy for her.
Erica, you were preaching abstinence to emersyn for a bit
and I'm sure you've seen it,
but you got a little blowback on social media for that one.
Social media user pointed out quote,
"the damage is done. It's like putting up smoke detectors
after the house has already burned down."
yeah.
-Which... -So if you stab somebody,
do you keep stabbing them?
You know.
-That's crazy. -Yeah, they're just really strict.
They're really weird.
My thing is though, I, dead ass, yo, you got their daughter pregnant,
you feel me?
I know, that's what I was like.
I was like, "okay, I won't be in the room."
but, like, it's not like she's gonna get pregnant again,
like, two seconds later.
But just 'cause she was pregnant
doesn't mean that they can just go up,
close the door and have more fun.
-I agree. -Heather would not--
I completely agree because then it's, like,
you're consenting for them to, I don't know,
to be adults when they're not adults.
Yeah, but, like, aden, like, full on lived with me.
After we got pregnant, he moved in.
But I feel like it allowed us to be good parents,
better parents together.
And don't you think you should earn that though?
Like, you didn't have the finances,
you didn't have the education.
Well, aden was working really hard.
And we did move out the day I turned 18.
And, like, before then I don't think I really should
have moved out because I was still a minor
and I needed help.
How many people out here that don't take care of their kids?
Like, a person trying... Come on, man.
They full of [bleep].
'cause, dude... Man.
For real.
-I was a teen mom. -[ananda] yeah.
So, I know the struggles and I know the hardships
and I wanted something different.
I didn't want to be a five generation teen mom family.
-I can't do it. -Damn.
-Ooh. -That's [bleep].
Hey, she definitely throwing shots.
She looks so mad.
Huh, so, melissa and candice, you're both from a family
with five generations of teen pregnancies?
What do you think about what erica just said?
Was it something you also wanted to prevent or,
or try to, you know, keep from continuing?
It's happened and there's nothing you can do about it now.
I put them on birth control. We talked about it.
Their hormones went crazy and they've done it,
and that's it.
I don't think there's any way you can really stop it.
I mean, you can give birth control, condoms,
but I mean, teenagers are going to do it what they're going to do, so...
-Yeah. -I could have the talk.
No matter how much you have the talk. My mom had the talk.
They're gonna find a way to do it.
-I agree. -You agree?
Kids are... They'll be kids.
Exactly, and there's not a lot of people
that are comfortable with, like, going to a parent
because you don't know what's going to happen after
you tell them, but then after you get pregnant,
they know that you're doing it anyways.
Yeah, like, you need to have to have the conversation before
you might as well--
or you still still got to have the conversation after.
Like, at some point, we gotta get through that fear
and actually start to have the conversations.
Yeah.
Since the babies have been here,
anything surprise you or any news to share?
-Oh. -Yeah.
Well, hi.
It's just to make them symmetrical.
Right, no, well, they're... Always, you know, damaged forever.
-[laughs] -[ananda] symmetrical.
You're gonna get it, look, because you guys are young.
-You're, like, the idea of young women is, like, -well, I'm 19.
-We have these perky nice boobs when you're young. -I'm--
I'm 19 years old and this boob is so effed up.
That's how I feel about my stomach, I have so much extra skin
and I want...
They won't let me fix it because I can't have any more kids after.
I love my daughter, she's already here though.
I don't need my body for her anymore.
She's gonna grow up and have her body
that she wants to show off. I want to show off mine.
-Yeah. -Like, fix it.
-Take me with you. -Oh, yeah.
-Oh, my god. -[laughs]
[ananda] well, on that note, thank you so much, ladies,
for being so open.
Letting me be nosy and dig into your business.
It's been a pleasure to talk to you guys.
We got to take a little break,
but we have a whole lot more coming up.
Stay right there.
Alex admitted he may have gotten another girl pregnant.
Do you think this is alex's baby?
Oh, hell, I don't know.
What if I were to tell you that we have her on video chat
ready to answer your questions?
They better not, I swear to god, I'll walk out.
Oh, my [bleep] god.
No. No, I'm about to throw up.
[babbles]
what does your shirt say?
Big sister.
Hello, and welcome back. I'm here with tyra, melissa, tiarra
and dee.
Now taylor, noah and candice are going to be watching from backstage
and joining us in a bit.
Alex is here today, but will not be participating.
Tyra, what's the current status of your relationship with alex?
Like we're, we're not in, like, a committed relationship
with each other, but I love him.
I would love to say, I would like to say that alex
loves me too, but as far as what we are with each other,
I'm not going to jump back into something just for him to cheat on me again.
I remember hearing you say the final straw basically
is gonna be if he gets somebody pregnant.
-Yeah. -So, just to remind everyone,
alex had gone to texas to see a girl
and there were rumors that she was pregnant.
She did have the kid.
And if the baby is his, I know that
I will never be able to, like...
Share him as a father.
Where are you at with the status of, like, a paternity test?
Well, she told alex she was getting induced.
-Actually on layla's birthday. -Oh.
I told him I said if you go down there
then that's it and he chose me, so...
So he stayed here for layla's birthday and missed that birth?
Yeah.
Tiarra, your instincts are pretty good.
Do you think this is alex's baby?
Oh, hell, I don't know. Maybe.
I know.
I don't think the baby's alex's because from what I've seen of it,
his sister looks just like him.
Layla looks just like him.
But, it could be, I don't know.
She could have stronger genes, but I doubt that.
[ananda] what if I were to tell you that
we have her on video chat ready to answer your questions?
They better not, I swear to god I'll walk out.
Oh, my [bleep] god.
-Tyra, no, she's not calling in. -I swear to god.
I was asking if she were to call in,
how would you feel if, if she did?
I want to talk to her, hell.
I would have broke the tv screen that her face was on, I promise.
But here's the thing, your feeling is very real.
And to me, your reaction says you need to find out quick, girl.
You can't let this just sit. If this baby is here, let's get a dna test,
-let's figure it out. -No, I want to know.
-Yeah, I want to know. -You know what I mean?
Because that visceral reaction she just had...
Literally, I felt like I was gonna throw up.
[ananda] it feels like it's holding up your life.
Oh, it is, for sure.
Dee, I just look at your face sometimes.
Man, give me, like... [laughs]
I mean, you and tiarra have been together for a long time.
You've seen the dynamics of this family.
-You've seen everything that's happened. -Yeah.
What are your thoughts on all this right now?
Um, so we can sit here and blame alex,
but eventually you have to self-reflect.
But he will always come back to me as the problem.
Because you're the only person that has a home,
you're the person that has his kid.
He can come to you and you pay for every [bleep]
-that he has. -[ananda] wow, that went--
I mean, I'm just saying it's really, like, that's real life.
I mean, she's my sister, so I'm gonna tell her what,
-you know what I'm saying? -For real.
And she knows that.
Okay, but, tiarra, your opinions of alex
have caused some pretty big arguments with tyra
because no one can push your buttons the way a sister can.
Honestly, at this point, I'm over, like,
thinking that things are going to change, you know what I'm saying?
Because it hasn't.
And it's the same for me, like, I feel the same, like, I know
he's a [bleep]
and I know he's not going to change.
But even when we're mad and we're arguing,
I mean, tiarra knows she's gonna call me five minutes later regardless.
Yeah.
Most of the time, like, after me and tyra argue,
we just kind of blow it off and act like it never happened.
Well, sisters may be able to move on quickly,
but that doesn't mean the same kind of forgiveness
is afforded to cousins.
I would now like to welcome taylor, noah and candice to the couch.
-Oh, gosh. -Oh, no.
Hello, welcome in.
You guys, can you take a seat over there? That's great.
Hello, candice. Hello, noah. Hi, taylor.
Welcome, welcome. Nice to have you guys here.
Tyra, tiarra and taylor grew up more like sisters than cousins,
but when tiarra copied taylor's idea for nursery,
that's all it took for the sisterly bond to come crashing down.
Drama.
That one.
Yeah.
When tiarra was down here last, I showed her the nursery theme
I wanted to do and she showed me what she had had chosen,
which was a totally different theme.
And then, when she left, she pretty much redid
her whole nursery in the theme I was gonna do.
It just hurt, like, it's just her.
The thing is, this is not their first time.
From boys to clothes to shoes to friends.
I'd had enough and then I took to instagram
and commented on an instagram post.
So that's when I got into it and it just, like... [imitates explosion]
just blew up.
I don't even feel like I want to talk to her
because of the stuff that she said.
Don't really hold grudges for tiarra, like, she'll, like, hate you
for the rest of her life. She doesn't care.
I really do feel like my emotions and stuff
were, like, driven by my hormones
and then, like, everything with your mom and stuff too.
Like, everybody was just upset.
Yeah, candice text me that I was dead to her,
-to never stop by her house. -Oh, look at those tears.
And so I said, "okay." I said you're my sister,
I love you, but your wish is my demand.
You don't want me there, I won't come.
All over something stupid.
Melissa, you are a very emotional person, why are you crying now?
It's old. It's a year ago.
What's making you cry, just having to see it again?
-Tears. Yeah. -She's...
Once I get there, I stay there.
Oh, no.
Things were said that should have never been said.
It was, it was really stupid.
I learned my lesson.
Tiarra, you know I'm sorry and I love you.
Your money said I will go to war over either one of them girls
and they know, y'all gonna make me cry
because I will.
Y'all have always been like daughters to me.
-I know. -You know.
We have.
Why are we... We're all gonna start crying.
And I've never wanted something stupid
to make them feel...
It was so [bleep] dumb, brah.
Looking back on it... It's on national tv
for us to see, you know what I'm saying?
-Yeah. -And it's, like, for everyone else to judge
on it, it's [bleep] stupid.
That's what I said. It was and it was,
but I just didn't want them to think I love them any less
because I never ever did.
Like, every, every memory I have is a, you know,
-something... -Yeah, this was before she moved to maryland.
I feel like we were still together every day, almost. Like, all the time.
-So you miss her? -Yeah.
[ananda] so, when did, like, the apologies happen? How did the makeup occur?
We didn't talk for what, maybe a month.
To me, it's just, like, over and out. It's so old,
like, my baby's eight months old and I was still pregnant.
So I was just, like, I'm tired of it. I'm wanting to let it go.
-You know what I'm saying? -And we won't.
There's no point of holding that.
These babies to be as close as they were.
-Mm-hmm. -Yeah.
So, is this good for the long haul now?
You're not gonna let anything else come up or what?
Yeah, no, that's stupid.
I don't really even feel like they should, they should...
There shouldn't even be anything that we argue about
anyways, like, what is there to argue about anymore?
[ananda] I love it. Thank you guys for always being so cool
and open and sharing your lives with us.
Gotta take a little break.
When we come back, we'll get an update on kylen
and jason's relationship
and later, a shocking update that no one saw coming.
It was wrong how you portrayed yourself.
I wanted to wring his neck.
Okay.
You guys can't just attack jason.
I'll just walk out of this [bleep] show.
...Two sides to a story.
Walk out.
-You're sitting closer to her. -Oh.
-Hi, scott. Hi, heidi. -Hi.
[woman speaking]
I'm here for it.
Hey, everybody, and welcome back to the unexpected tell-all.
I'm here with kylen and jason.
Scott and heidi and mike and marie are joining us on video chat.
-[squeals] -shh, shh.
[indistinct chatter]
-[snickers] -sorry.
-Can we turn this up? -[man] yeah.
Thank you for being here, mike and marie.
I know that you were not able to make the trip to the studio today
because of mike's health.
But we're really glad you could be here with us
even if it's remotely.
Give us an update on how things are going real quick,
health wise, mike, how you doing?
I'm hanging in there.
[marie] he's pretty much stable.
A little bit.
Awesome, we're happy to hear that.
So we followed quite a few pregnancies over
the years, but for these two parents to be.
Everything was a debate. Let's take a look.
Our birth plan is to not use any medication, like, at all.
When pregnant women take medication or anything,
like, drugs or anything, it goes immediately
into your baby's system.
And I don't support that.
Oh, that poor girl.
[grunts] I can't do this anymore.
[sobs]
my offers are this.
Checking to see where you are.
Fluids.
-What? -Such a [bleep] idiot.
I'm against. No, I'm against hard, addictive drugs,
not alcohol and tobacco use
and weed.
I can't deal, I really can't.
So your pulse is 120, that's way above
what is normal and then your blood pressure's high,
so we're gonna have to move to the hospital.
[cell phone ringing]
[jason] yes.
-No. -[kylen cries]
usually, I can't speak up for myself,
but now I am because I'm finally pissed off enough.
I'm speaking up.
[jason] I don't want you to do that. I don't consent to this.
[man speaking]
-[all gasping] -[girl] stop!
[doctor speaking]
I want to see my kid be born, but the hospital ruined everything.
So did kylen.
The hospital ruined everything.
-Oh, my god, [bleep] it's sickening. -My heart...
-I'm sweaty, like, mine are insane. -Me too.
It's, like, sickening. Like, it really makes me sick.
The problem I think, I know I had and maybe most of america
who's watching this, who really did get kind of pissed off at you
is that at the most important time probably,
so far in her life, you're berating her and yelling at her.
You're upset because the baby might get exposed to drugs,
but you're vaping in the tub.
When you look back at it, can you agree with any of that?
Uh, it's a pretty crazy birth.
But I don't think it's fair to judge anyone by a 10 minute clip.
Jason, let's be real though. It wasn't 10 minutes.
It was, like, a whole season of you screaming at her.
Even if we're only seeing bits and pieces,
the things I heard him say to you,
it is offensive and rude.
Please explain some of that to me.
-I don't care what-- -this is a chance to, like, clear it up.
Anyone else thinks of me, as long as kylen and the baby are happy.
[kylen] yeah.
We both said sorry to each other
and we love each other, that's all that matters.
Scott, heidi, how do you feel looking at your son's behavior during...
What was supposed to be one of the most beautiful times of kylen's life?
Well, it can be, um, but I think after...
However many hours, you know, this, this,
there's obviously some level of stress
-that's going to be involved. -That's what I said.
Okay, I get that. But, kylen looked hurt to me.
We were both hurt.
He has no, like, regard.
-He literally looks like he doesn't give a [bleep]. -Right.
He's a dick.
[ananda] okay, I want to go to you, mike.
I just want to know what you think about
what you've been hearing so far.
Um...
I wasn't there.
But, you know, I do understand his point.
See, even they're walking on eggshells right now,
because they don't want to get her in trouble with him.
[woman] and they all seem scared of him.
I don't know if it's just his parents, her parents...
Are all, like, scared of him.
-May I say something? -[ananda] sure, marie jump in.
Talk. Talk, girl, get it out.
We know you want to.
It was wrong
how you portrayed yourself.
I hope you learn from it.
It's...
Could've handled the situation a little better.
-I think a lot of it is, is immaturity, right? -Mm-hmm.
[kylen] no.
You know, I hope, you know. I should.
You know, I wasn't, I wasn't the perfect 19 year old.
He's probably why jason is why he is
because his dad is like that.
Yeah, I wonder if he taught him too.
-Talk to a [bleep] woman like that. -Probably.
But I will say we have a show full of 19 year olds and under
-and we really haven't seen behavior like this. -Right.
Oh, I give him hell.
You guys can't just attack jason.
I'll just walk out of this [bleep] show.
-Walk out. -Walk out.
-Let's go. -[all chanting] walk out.
...Down there.
[kylen] I mean, obviously, we have, like, our disagreements and fights,
but you gotta move forward with the future.
[mike] jason, you gotta do something.
And that's be a man and take care of my daughter,
my grandchild.
I just want to be clear that that means that
you have forgiven jason for how he treated your daughter then?
-We agree. -[scott] I agree.
Are you guys planning on increasing your visitation to your parents?
It's just hard because, like, we both don't have a license
-and... -Oh, so the transportation issue.
So, they would have to pick us up is the issue.
It wouldn't be a problem to pick you up.
So, kylen, you do want to see your parents more?
Yeah.
I like ending right there for now.
Jason, is there anything else you'd like to say before we go to break?
Yeah, I just want to say shout out to my haters.
-Are you [bleep] kidding me? -[all exclaiming]
he needs his ass kicked. I'm sorry, I'm gonna say it.
Somebody needs to whoop his ass real [bleep].
Real good. Let's do it.
When we come back, all the couples will be joining us
and they're going to share some shocking announcements
you will not believe.
-Let's go. -Oh, we're ready.
Let's go.
Thank you so much, you guys. I appreciate you.
-Yes, you too. -Nice to meet you.
I can only do so much.
[jason] keep yelling. Yell louder.
[bleep]
well, you're pissing me off.
[jason] I don't care, you're pissing me off.
Jason, you can either fight all day
or just stop because I literally been sticking up--
[scott speaking]
[jason speaking]
[heidi] she tried.
You're not helping.
It's not [bleep] trying. You do it.
I literally have been sticking up for you.
[jason speaking]
because I'm like holy [bleep], that's scary for her.
She's, like, being mistreated.
Everyone is just worried for you--
-but that's what I'm trying to tell you guys. -We already did.
-I just don't care what your opinions are. -And you guys keep going...
It's not you, it's not you, it's him.
-I'm not gonna do this. -Mind your own [bleep] business.
[jason] I don't give a [bleep].
Yeah.
[indistinct chatter]
[ananda speaking]
[jason] good. I don't know why you care.
[woman speaking]
[all speaking indistinctly]
lilly, lawrence, jenna, you'll be up there.
All just, by herself.
She's probably so relieved.
I mean, she even looks, like, happier, like her...
-She has the glow. -The way she carries herself is, like...
And I want that for that little kylen girl.
-Yes, like... -Yes.
Yeah.
Hey, everybody, welcome back to the unexpected tell-all.
I'm ananda lewis, and I'm here with all of our teen couples.
We also have grandmas watching backstage.
So, before I get into anything else, ladies.
Right before this, I heard that when I sat down
to do my segment with kylen and jason,
you guys, like, ran out to the monitors to be able to see it.
Why were you so excited to see that?
We wanted to see if you were sorry
-yeah. -For the way you were acting.
Yeah. Thank you, jenna.
-And did you feel like he was? -No.
No.
What part do you feel he needs to be sorry about
-or apologize about? -I feel like my birth was the best day of my life.
-Yeah. -And going back and looking at that
and thinking of anybody that stood in front of
giving me the best day of my life.
I feel like I would have been really upset.
Right, and what did it look like it ended up being for kylen?
[bleep] traumatizing.
Traumatizing, yeah, I think I would have been emotionally injured,
like, drained after that.
Were you emotionally drained, kylen?
I mean, a little, um...
[sighs]
I agree with it. It's supposed to be, like, the most beautiful thing, right?
But I'm pretty sure it's all supposed to be for the male too,
-'cause it's their kid. -[woman] no, it's not.
No, it's not.
Like, you... She was in labor.
-Her body is... -Sorry, I was looking out for my kid
and her, for not wanting to do drugs.
-Epidural is not a drug. -We all had an epidural.
-She's not gonna get addicted to any medication. -I never asked for another--,
-I don't crave an epidural. -Okay, I completely think my boyfriend
has a say over my child's...
I think that everyone is just worried for you
-and wants to make sure that you're okay, too. -Exactly.
-I mean, you know... -Like, we feel for you.
Make sure that he knows that that wasn't okay for you.
-Yeah, I know. -I love the attention.
I feel like it was just really sad that
he took away your special moment.
And you can never get that back
and he's doesn't look like he cares.
It's, like, even more irritating that he, like, doesn't care.
It would be different if he said he's sorry.
He said sorry to me. We've talked about it.
We've had our own discussion and we've grown up from it.
-Yeah. -You're making excuses for him off, you know,
huge red flag right there.
Oh, it is, but she's terrified and no one can help her.
We can all see it, but she's got to go home to that psycho.
[ananda] jenna, what are you worried about for kylen?
I mean, I think jason's a lot like aden,
but I think he's like aden on crack.
But your relationship is your relationship.
-Mine's different. -I think they're very similar men.
Jenna, can you just tell m e clearly the status of your relationship
-with aden right now? -We broke up, like, four months ago.
-Mmm. Okay. -Yeah.
And I think that he's a lot like aden and aden
is not a good person.
[bleep]
I think they're so angry because they think everything
-is, like, pointed direct them because I've been in-- -I like it.
No, you shouldn't like it,
I get the attention. Boosts my ego.
It's their point to prove that they don't have
a toxic relationship because that's why every one of us
-just set up their... -[jason] we already did.
-I just don't care what your opinions are. -I'm trying to tell you guys
-and you guys keep going with it. -It's not you, it's him.
You don't hear what he's saying.
You have to stop proving him to everybody,
-because you can't. -If you watch the footage that everyone watched,
it comes off as worrisome. Like, when I watched it,
I'm, like, holy [bleep], that's scary for her.
She's, like, being mistreated and, like, that's scary for her.
-Oh, my god. I'm not gonna do this. -[jason speaking]
[jason] all right, yeah.
Have fun with your little tell-all.
[all laughing]
if it wasn't only [bleep] focused on our relationship.
We would still be here.
-We worry about you... -I don't give a [bleep].
None of you guys were popular on the show other than me.
-[all clamoring] -[bleep]
you didn't just say that!
Yeah, let's go. Let's go.
Why do you guys, like, just talk [bleep] about everybody, like...
[laughs]
-go. -Holy [bleep].
You didn't say [bleep] to them.
-She's so brainwashed and it's so sad. -That's what I said.
[bleep] children, look at your own relationships.
But you can't say that now we're out of the room.
She doesn't know what to say because she's scared of what
he's gonna say to her later. She's so scared of him.
-You can see it in her face. -It is sad.
See, I'm the type of girl you piss me off, I don't...
No.
You're gonna get way more drama than...
Hey, I'm just gonna tell you right now
that they wouldn't have much of a show.
-If it wasn't for us, -[bleep]
[indistinct conversation]
every single one of those couples got pitched
and I was, like, everyone watching the show is watching it for me.
And then they all freaked out when I walked out.
For me, not kylen.
[all laughing]
[knocking at door]
[bleep]
I'm not going to be ganged up by a bunch of teenagers.
I don't, I don't care about their relationships. That's me.
They care about us. I don't give a [bleep] what they thinking.
I don't give a [bleep] who they are.
All right, we're back with the couples
and we are going to try to get kylen and jason back.
But in the meantime, our grandmas are still backstage
and we're going to keep it moving.
-Thank you. -You guys ever think something like that,
that personality that comes out of jason
when he's frustrated and not getting his way
whatever the circumstances are.
How does that change? Or does it?
I don't think it does. I think if somebody is treating you that way,
it's not like, "oh, they do it once," and it's like, "I'm sorry."
that looks like repeated, like, verbal abuse.
And yeah, and she lets it slide.
It's just disturbing to see because, like,
I feel like she's all alone, you know.
I feel so bad for her.
She has no one advocating for her,
like, hey, you're with, like, a psycho.
I think that's what we were trying to do.
But it wasn't, like, none of us were throwing shots at her.
I feel like...
A lot of us have been in the same position
where we're defending some [bleep] that we love.
-That's so sad. -Especially me, I know jenna.
And it's just, it's sad.
Until you could finally step up and say, no, their actions aren't right.
But I mean, sometimes, you, you don't have to change.
-You don't, I mean, alex is still in my life. -[ananda] yeah.
I didn't change that. But I am gonna say that
what he's doing is messed up.
-Um, I think... -I just don't want to get [bleep] on
the whole time. Like, I'm not criticizing their relationships.
No, that's not my type.
I'm just sick of it.
Yeah.
[jason] yeah.
I don't know what the final answer is...
What do you guys think about what tyra and alex are going through?
Leave his ass in the dust.
You deserve, like, somebody who would never even blink twice
at another woman.
Raise those standards.
I know. I wish, I wish it was that easy.
I mean, he said he's treating you, like, you're a second option.
Like, you're just, oh, I can't find [bleep] today.
I'll just go to tyra.
Oh, no, I always come first. There's still the side chicks.
I come first, but there, he's still doing it.
[ananda] but do you hear yourself?
No, I'm just saying, I'm just saying.
[ananda] guys, what do you think?
Like if you love somebody, you're gonna be faithful to them
-no matter what. -Right.
Yeah, if he cheats on me, we're done.
-Really? -I don't care, yeah.
So you have a hard line on cheating.
Raise your hand, anybody else who has a hard line on cheating.
You cheat on me on me. I'm out, homie.
That's what you say. That's what you say.
Well, I think every circumstances dee can't, yeah.
-Yeah, just say that it's it. -I'm grown and it's happened
-and I still stayed. -Same.
So, you can't sit there and say that
when you love somebody.
-When you... Yeah. -Yeah.
Mason, really? I want to hear from you since I haven't yet.
What do you think about all of this?
I mean, all of it's just kind of crazy, honestly.
-I mean, like, -[all laughing]
I just, I couldn't imagine doing that.
I know we have, like, our own little problems,
but that's, like, a major problem.
Mason, tell me what about the rules that erica had
for emersyn were so hard?
-Oh, wow. -See, I don't know why they say had
so many hard rules.
I literally had one.
Don't sleep in the same bed in my house.
[laughs]
well, every parent's like that though.
Not once they're married and sleeping in your house.
Yeah, that's different, but...
And now my 13 year old son that I have at home goes,
"oh, I can have a girl over and get her pregnant."
and then lina and vihan follow suit.
-Like... -That's hard, yeah.
You got younger kids.
Well, but he actually went, so...
He's still responsible.
Your mom had kind of what sounds like a zero tolerance policy.
-Yeah. -Really? One time and that's it,
we're not even talking about it again.
-I guess so. -Wow.
What does everybody think about those rules?
What's the point?
You know, they've already done the damage, so...
Can I walk out there and make a closing statement
and walk off the stage? I don't want to go in and sit down.
All right, let's go. Going out with a bang.
Um, it actually looks like kylen and jason might be coming back.
Don't bring that disrespectful ass boy back in here.
[groans]
oh, my god.
[ananda] next week, you are not going to want to miss part two
of our unexpected tell-all.
The professional raw dogger is back.
Oh, my god.
My mom started putting words in my mouth.
Bald faced lies.
I heard you were mad at her for not defending you out here.
You're with, like, a psycho.
Okay.
Are you guys sti having sex?
Why would I want to have sex when my vagina just ripped in half?
I think there's similarities between jason and aden.
Don't diss aden like that.
Did she ever apologize?
Like, you're taking a [bleep] on me and telling me to eat it.
That that's why you went back to jail last week
because you violated your parole.
Let's get our facts correct,
before someone takes the lid off for you, please.
You want some boxing gloves?