1 00:00:08,050 --> 00:00:11,104 - 9-1-1, what's your emergency? - I, I... 2 00:00:11,129 --> 00:00:13,721 - Hello? - I, I don't know. I think... 3 00:00:13,746 --> 00:00:15,199 Ma'am, what's your emergency? 4 00:00:15,224 --> 00:00:18,535 - Uh, he's dead, he's dead. - Mom? 5 00:00:21,463 --> 00:00:22,464 Daddy! 6 00:00:22,489 --> 00:00:24,301 Former Stanford professor and cult author... 7 00:00:24,325 --> 00:00:25,877 - No! Come on, please. - ... killed in his own home 8 00:00:25,901 --> 00:00:27,566 while his wife and daughters slept... 9 00:00:27,591 --> 00:00:28,990 Chuck Buhrman was murdered in his home, 10 00:00:29,014 --> 00:00:30,467 stabbed multiple times. 11 00:00:31,866 --> 00:00:34,756 Sixteen-year-old Warren Cave was taken into custody this morning. 12 00:00:34,781 --> 00:00:37,347 Witnesses saw Cave and the victim in a heated argument 13 00:00:37,371 --> 00:00:38,554 - during the Halloween party. - Judge ruled today 14 00:00:38,578 --> 00:00:41,568 that the 16-year-old boy will be tried as an adult. 15 00:01:32,222 --> 00:01:35,162 - May I proceed, Your Honor? - You may proceed. 16 00:01:35,466 --> 00:01:37,678 This was testimony given by the witness 17 00:01:37,703 --> 00:01:40,217 at the June 2000 trial of Warren Cave. 18 00:01:41,984 --> 00:01:44,445 You said a noise woke you up. Is that correct? 19 00:01:44,470 --> 00:01:45,672 Yes. 20 00:01:45,697 --> 00:01:47,457 After you woke up, what did you do? 21 00:01:47,482 --> 00:01:50,152 I looked out my window and saw someone jumping the fence. 22 00:01:50,853 --> 00:01:53,297 Could you please identify that person? 23 00:01:53,546 --> 00:01:55,695 My neighbor, Warren Cave. 24 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,132 Are you sure? 25 00:01:57,953 --> 00:01:59,117 100 percent. 26 00:01:59,142 --> 00:02:00,268 Once more. 27 00:02:01,135 --> 00:02:02,539 Are you sure? 28 00:02:03,397 --> 00:02:05,148 100 percent. 29 00:02:05,173 --> 00:02:08,675 Now, this is her statement to the police six months earlier. 30 00:02:09,923 --> 00:02:12,414 Lanie, on Halloween night, the night of the murder, 31 00:02:12,439 --> 00:02:16,148 did you see the person before they jumped the fence? 32 00:02:17,421 --> 00:02:19,132 I think so. 33 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,672 You think so? 34 00:02:29,673 --> 00:02:31,359 I'm pretty sure. 35 00:02:31,688 --> 00:02:33,754 Now, one more time, Lanie. 36 00:02:33,779 --> 00:02:37,032 Did you recognize the individual who jumped the back fence? 37 00:02:37,645 --> 00:02:39,390 Go ahead. 38 00:02:42,308 --> 00:02:43,593 Say it. 39 00:02:44,008 --> 00:02:46,804 Yes. It was Warren. 40 00:02:47,876 --> 00:02:49,742 Warren Cave? 41 00:02:49,904 --> 00:02:51,468 Yes. 42 00:02:52,029 --> 00:02:54,525 Is this the bulk of your new evidence, Ms. Cedillo? 43 00:02:54,550 --> 00:02:57,653 Yes. And if I may, Your Honor, it's obvious from the new video 44 00:02:57,678 --> 00:02:59,524 - she was coached into a statement... - Obvious to you. 45 00:02:59,548 --> 00:03:02,491 Hold on. Let me tell you what can be argued. 46 00:03:02,516 --> 00:03:04,493 The trial footage shows a young woman 47 00:03:04,518 --> 00:03:07,120 who's had six months to process her father's death 48 00:03:07,145 --> 00:03:08,605 and the events of that night. 49 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:11,539 In the found footage, I see a distraught teenage girl 50 00:03:11,564 --> 00:03:15,568 being questioned a mere 48 hours after the brutal murder of her father. 51 00:03:15,593 --> 00:03:18,304 These are trying circumstances for the best of us. 52 00:03:18,329 --> 00:03:22,078 But there is not enough evidence to constitute a new trial. 53 00:03:22,103 --> 00:03:23,375 Motion denied. 54 00:03:23,860 --> 00:03:25,750 My son is innocent. 55 00:03:27,382 --> 00:03:30,843 I'm sorry, Ms. Cave. I hope you find some peace. 56 00:03:30,958 --> 00:03:34,992 Why doesn't anyone see that my son is innocent? 57 00:03:50,231 --> 00:03:53,625 She won a Pulitzer Prize for her investigative journalism work 58 00:03:53,650 --> 00:03:55,484 during her 20 years at The New York Times 59 00:03:55,509 --> 00:03:57,421 before leaving to start what has become 60 00:03:57,446 --> 00:04:00,523 one of the most popular true crime podcasts on iTunes. 61 00:04:00,548 --> 00:04:03,703 Here to discuss the changing landscape of American journalism, 62 00:04:03,728 --> 00:04:06,508 it is my pleasure to welcome Poppy Parnell. 63 00:04:11,728 --> 00:04:16,961 Ben Bradlee, a titan of journalism, had a quote: 64 00:04:16,986 --> 00:04:23,336 "As long as a journalist tells the truth, in conscience and fairness... 65 00:04:23,884 --> 00:04:26,762 it's not his job to worry about consequences." 66 00:04:28,198 --> 00:04:31,928 The truth is never as dangerous as a lie in the long run. 67 00:04:32,462 --> 00:04:33,967 Say it. 68 00:04:34,483 --> 00:04:35,876 It was Warren. 69 00:04:35,901 --> 00:04:37,756 My son is innocent. 70 00:04:40,536 --> 00:04:43,416 The truth is the only guide. 71 00:05:02,048 --> 00:05:04,185 - Poppy? - In the kitchen! 72 00:05:07,495 --> 00:05:10,490 What's... What's going on? 73 00:05:12,217 --> 00:05:13,697 Thought I'd cook. 74 00:05:14,737 --> 00:05:16,428 The queen of takeout? 75 00:05:16,453 --> 00:05:19,372 You haven't fired up that stove since we moved in. 76 00:05:19,397 --> 00:05:21,209 So it's about time then. 77 00:05:23,399 --> 00:05:25,131 What is going on? 78 00:05:25,156 --> 00:05:27,490 Just have to start the roux. 79 00:05:32,890 --> 00:05:34,623 Let me ask you a question. 80 00:05:34,903 --> 00:05:36,237 Hit me. 81 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:37,516 If... 82 00:05:38,546 --> 00:05:42,372 ... a man got convicted of murder based off eyewitness testimony, 83 00:05:42,397 --> 00:05:45,044 you know, somebody saw him leaving the scene, 84 00:05:45,361 --> 00:05:49,028 and then you find out that eyewitness was coached, 85 00:05:49,053 --> 00:05:51,263 shouldn't that be enough to get him a new trial? 86 00:05:52,842 --> 00:05:54,583 Who are we talking about? 87 00:05:54,832 --> 00:05:56,388 Warren Cave. 88 00:05:57,451 --> 00:06:00,700 What? The kid that you wrote the story about 20 years ago? 89 00:06:00,725 --> 00:06:01,927 Nineteen. 90 00:06:02,372 --> 00:06:04,755 There was a hearing today. 91 00:06:04,780 --> 00:06:07,552 The defense got their hands on a videotape 92 00:06:07,577 --> 00:06:09,209 of Lanie Buhrman's statement. 93 00:06:09,234 --> 00:06:11,153 She was lying. I know it. 94 00:06:11,684 --> 00:06:13,231 I got... 95 00:06:13,256 --> 00:06:18,562 all these awards hanging in my office from those articles about Warren. 96 00:06:18,587 --> 00:06:20,839 That entire series launched my career, 97 00:06:20,864 --> 00:06:23,992 and now I can't stop wondering if I was wrong. 98 00:06:24,017 --> 00:06:27,813 You didn't investigate the crime, Poppy. You wrote the stories. 99 00:06:27,950 --> 00:06:33,563 But my stories got the whole world to think that he was evil incarnate. 100 00:06:33,588 --> 00:06:36,212 I'm the reason he got tried as an adult. 101 00:06:36,597 --> 00:06:38,237 Remember the one juror that got dismissed 102 00:06:38,262 --> 00:06:41,626 because they found him reading my articles during the lunch break? 103 00:06:42,793 --> 00:06:45,384 Oh, my God, Ingram, if he's innocent... 104 00:06:45,409 --> 00:06:47,993 Hey, come on. You have to let this go. 105 00:06:51,763 --> 00:06:54,993 Yeah. I mean, there's nothing I can do about it anyway, right? 106 00:06:55,018 --> 00:06:57,312 No, listen, hey, you saw it in action. Okay? 107 00:06:57,337 --> 00:06:59,915 The chances of overturning a verdict 108 00:06:59,940 --> 00:07:04,048 or even getting a retrial are a million to one. 109 00:07:04,434 --> 00:07:05,766 Now... 110 00:07:08,165 --> 00:07:10,938 can I call somewhere to make a reservation? 111 00:07:11,693 --> 00:07:15,222 Please. 'Cause this is not going to end well. 112 00:07:15,247 --> 00:07:17,646 - You know? - I'm gonna make it just to spite you. 113 00:09:19,301 --> 00:09:21,678 - Hey. - Hey, yourself. 114 00:09:21,703 --> 00:09:24,540 - I want to do a different story. - No shit. 115 00:09:24,565 --> 00:09:26,375 Warren Cave. Thanks. 116 00:09:30,478 --> 00:09:34,389 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 117 00:09:34,423 --> 00:09:39,659 ♪ Happy birthday, dear Josie and Lanie ♪ 118 00:09:39,808 --> 00:09:42,037 - ♪ Happy birthday to you- We all know those families. 119 00:09:42,061 --> 00:09:44,313 The ones at the center of their neighborhood. 120 00:09:45,134 --> 00:09:47,206 The ones with the happiest marriage, 121 00:09:47,231 --> 00:09:48,995 - the perfect kids. - And there you go. 122 00:09:49,020 --> 00:09:53,167 The greenest lawn, the most loyal dog, the brightest Christmas lights. 123 00:09:53,863 --> 00:09:58,204 The ones that are effectively... perfect? 124 00:09:58,229 --> 00:10:00,308 - Merry Christmas. - Look right over here. 125 00:10:00,332 --> 00:10:04,127 In Menlo Park, the Buhrmans were that family. 126 00:10:04,805 --> 00:10:07,490 Chuck, a celebrated author 127 00:10:07,515 --> 00:10:11,003 and respected professor at Stanford University. 128 00:10:11,028 --> 00:10:15,984 Erin, a talented artist who put her career on hold to raise a family. 129 00:10:16,009 --> 00:10:20,859 And Lanie and Josie, their high-achieving twin daughters. 130 00:10:21,163 --> 00:10:27,906 A perfect life shattered on October 31, 1999. 131 00:10:29,152 --> 00:10:32,210 Here's what Menlo Park Police say happened. 132 00:10:32,668 --> 00:10:34,568 Chuck Buhrman was up late, 133 00:10:34,593 --> 00:10:38,472 catching up on work after the family's annual Halloween party. 134 00:10:38,497 --> 00:10:41,283 He sent 11 e-mails after midnight, 135 00:10:41,308 --> 00:10:44,870 the last one at 2:44 a.m. 136 00:10:44,895 --> 00:10:47,564 All work-related and all routine. 137 00:10:48,990 --> 00:10:52,468 The assailant entered through a back door. 138 00:10:52,493 --> 00:10:57,163 With his wife and daughters upstairs, Chuck went to investigate. 139 00:11:04,135 --> 00:11:06,421 He made it to the doorway of his office 140 00:11:06,446 --> 00:11:08,999 where the bulk of the attack took place. 141 00:11:11,337 --> 00:11:14,399 The assailant escaped through the back door, 142 00:11:14,424 --> 00:11:18,499 hopped over the back fence and disappeared into the darkness. 143 00:11:18,524 --> 00:11:23,109 Chuck's body was found the next morning by his wife, Erin. 144 00:11:23,694 --> 00:11:28,330 Erin, along with twin daughters, Josie and Lanie, 145 00:11:28,355 --> 00:11:31,233 had slept through the slaughter. 146 00:11:31,258 --> 00:11:34,773 The case against Warren was largely circumstantial. 147 00:11:34,850 --> 00:11:38,367 Police did not have a witness to the actual attack. 148 00:11:38,392 --> 00:11:41,969 They didn't find Warren's DNA anywhere on Chuck's body, 149 00:11:41,994 --> 00:11:45,676 and they never recovered the murder weapon. 150 00:11:45,701 --> 00:11:47,114 But there were two pieces 151 00:11:47,139 --> 00:11:50,122 of hard evidence linking him to the crime scene. 152 00:11:50,147 --> 00:11:52,536 Fingerprints found near the body 153 00:11:52,568 --> 00:11:57,776 and the testimony of Chuck's 15-year-old daughter, Lanie Buhrman. 154 00:11:57,801 --> 00:12:02,434 But what if Warren Cave didn't kill Chuck Buhrman? 155 00:12:02,459 --> 00:12:07,840 And if Warren didn't, who did and why? 156 00:12:10,645 --> 00:12:12,416 - You see what's missing? - Yeah. 157 00:12:12,441 --> 00:12:14,776 We need Warren. No Warren, no story. 158 00:12:14,801 --> 00:12:16,997 - If I could be so bold. - Yeah. Shoot. 159 00:12:17,022 --> 00:12:18,700 Why would he ever talk to you? 160 00:12:18,725 --> 00:12:20,184 Because I could help him. 161 00:12:20,547 --> 00:12:22,372 You really think he's innocent? 162 00:12:22,397 --> 00:12:25,372 I don't know. But I need to find out. 163 00:12:26,703 --> 00:12:29,918 - He won't see me, Des. - You can't be surprised by that. 164 00:12:30,282 --> 00:12:32,786 So why are you letting it stop you? 165 00:12:33,306 --> 00:12:35,161 You need him, right? 166 00:12:35,186 --> 00:12:38,926 Without Warren, it's just me telling a story indulging in my own guilt. 167 00:12:38,951 --> 00:12:40,692 - But... - No. Don't "but." 168 00:12:40,811 --> 00:12:42,950 Don't bullshit. 169 00:12:43,263 --> 00:12:45,036 You can lie to everybody but me. 170 00:12:45,061 --> 00:12:47,409 Being told "no" has never stopped you. 171 00:12:47,434 --> 00:12:48,722 Now you're talking shit. 172 00:12:48,747 --> 00:12:51,184 You will bulldog the shit out of something if someone else 173 00:12:51,209 --> 00:12:53,165 is doing wrong or if it's about work. 174 00:12:53,190 --> 00:12:56,318 But when it's about you, the real, you're out. 175 00:12:56,343 --> 00:12:57,470 That's not true. 176 00:12:57,867 --> 00:13:00,088 Remember your ex, Markus? 177 00:13:00,113 --> 00:13:02,199 He cheated. What was I supposed to do? 178 00:13:02,224 --> 00:13:05,010 I don't know. Cuss him out. But you just jetted. 179 00:13:05,035 --> 00:13:06,716 You took a job you weren't even thinking about. 180 00:13:06,740 --> 00:13:09,659 - It was The New York Times! - It was a broken heart. 181 00:13:13,791 --> 00:13:15,372 For reals though. 182 00:13:16,698 --> 00:13:18,317 You're scared. 183 00:13:18,588 --> 00:13:21,114 'Cause you don't wanna look Warren in the face. 184 00:13:21,197 --> 00:13:22,653 I don't. 185 00:13:23,199 --> 00:13:24,571 But you're gonna have to. 186 00:13:24,596 --> 00:13:26,473 You will not be able to live with yourself 187 00:13:26,498 --> 00:13:30,114 if you were wrong, and he has suffered because of it. 188 00:13:30,139 --> 00:13:32,267 I helped to put him where he is. 189 00:13:32,292 --> 00:13:34,294 And you could be the reason he gets out. 190 00:13:34,604 --> 00:13:37,176 Woman up. Handle that. 191 00:13:37,350 --> 00:13:40,707 Do whatever you have to do to get in there and see him. 192 00:13:53,034 --> 00:13:54,512 Mrs. Cave. 193 00:13:56,805 --> 00:13:58,535 Get off my property. 194 00:13:58,560 --> 00:13:59,936 I just need a minute. 195 00:14:00,509 --> 00:14:02,082 Go to hell. 196 00:14:04,396 --> 00:14:06,903 Damn it! Damn it. 197 00:14:06,928 --> 00:14:08,668 Just hear me out. 198 00:14:09,775 --> 00:14:12,317 Doing a new podcast series... 199 00:14:13,353 --> 00:14:15,262 entirely about Warren. 200 00:14:17,950 --> 00:14:19,168 What? 201 00:14:19,349 --> 00:14:23,449 In order for it to work, I need to talk to your son. 202 00:14:24,585 --> 00:14:28,548 Which is why I was hoping you could help me get in to see him. 203 00:14:30,967 --> 00:14:33,891 - Are you kidding me? - This could help him. 204 00:14:33,916 --> 00:14:36,293 Create public pressure to maybe get him another trial. 205 00:14:36,318 --> 00:14:39,129 What, suddenly you give a shit? 206 00:14:40,221 --> 00:14:42,715 I would be skeptical too. 207 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,942 But if he is innocent, maybe I can do something to make a difference. 208 00:14:53,883 --> 00:14:57,489 What did my son want to become when he was growing up? 209 00:14:57,806 --> 00:15:01,949 What was his favorite subject in school? 210 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,574 Did he sleep with a night-light? 211 00:15:06,450 --> 00:15:07,832 You don't know. 212 00:15:07,857 --> 00:15:09,207 Because you never wanted to know 213 00:15:09,232 --> 00:15:12,543 because that would've made my son a human being. 214 00:15:12,853 --> 00:15:15,129 Instead of this twisted creature 215 00:15:15,154 --> 00:15:17,957 that you were so desperately trying to sell. 216 00:15:18,541 --> 00:15:20,926 You exploited my son once. 217 00:15:20,951 --> 00:15:22,473 Mm-mmm. 218 00:15:22,730 --> 00:15:24,942 Never gonna let that happen again. 219 00:15:25,355 --> 00:15:27,035 Okay, I know. 220 00:15:27,060 --> 00:15:30,614 I know you hate me. And you probably deserve to. 221 00:15:30,879 --> 00:15:31,880 Yeah. 222 00:15:33,222 --> 00:15:36,231 But if you're running out of time, what have you got to lose? 223 00:15:37,550 --> 00:15:38,551 What? 224 00:15:38,991 --> 00:15:40,660 Does Warren know? 225 00:15:42,354 --> 00:15:44,504 Know what? What are you talking about? 226 00:15:44,658 --> 00:15:46,090 My mother. 227 00:15:46,472 --> 00:15:48,067 Breast cancer. 228 00:15:49,465 --> 00:15:51,973 She had the same diet during chemo. 229 00:15:52,570 --> 00:15:54,196 How long did they give you? 230 00:15:54,557 --> 00:15:56,379 Six months. 231 00:15:56,837 --> 00:15:58,433 When? 232 00:15:59,509 --> 00:16:01,418 Four months ago. 233 00:16:02,541 --> 00:16:04,684 Then let me help you. 234 00:16:07,374 --> 00:16:09,239 You're a horrible woman. 235 00:16:09,454 --> 00:16:12,123 Stop using us to make yourself feel better. 236 00:16:14,673 --> 00:16:15,856 Mela... 237 00:16:16,351 --> 00:16:17,686 Well, maybe we don't need him. 238 00:16:17,711 --> 00:16:20,414 There's so many other ways to dig into this story. 239 00:16:20,439 --> 00:16:23,483 Noa, I appreciate the positive spin, 240 00:16:23,508 --> 00:16:27,470 but this story is about freeing a potentially innocent man. 241 00:16:27,495 --> 00:16:30,007 If I don't talk to that man, I don't have a story. 242 00:16:30,032 --> 00:16:31,533 But if you can't get to Warren... 243 00:16:31,558 --> 00:16:33,067 I'll find another way. 244 00:16:33,538 --> 00:16:35,778 What about you? You get anything? 245 00:16:35,803 --> 00:16:37,514 Nothing on Erin or Josie, 246 00:16:37,539 --> 00:16:40,692 but Lanie Buhrman, you won't believe what she's doing now. 247 00:16:40,717 --> 00:16:41,802 What about her? 248 00:16:41,827 --> 00:16:43,949 She's working as a death doula. 249 00:16:44,617 --> 00:16:45,949 What's that? 250 00:16:45,974 --> 00:16:48,746 Same as a birth doula except death. 251 00:16:48,771 --> 00:16:52,779 The daughter of a murder victim helps people to die. 252 00:16:52,804 --> 00:16:55,432 I will never fucking understand California. 253 00:18:21,743 --> 00:18:22,744 Ahh. 254 00:18:31,799 --> 00:18:35,085 - Can I help you? - Are you Lanie Buhrman? 255 00:18:35,644 --> 00:18:37,479 - Who's asking? - My name is Poppy Parnell. 256 00:18:37,504 --> 00:18:39,047 I'm here to talk about Warren Cave. 257 00:18:39,072 --> 00:18:40,721 - Not interested. - Ms. Buhrman, please. 258 00:18:40,746 --> 00:18:43,491 Dunn. Lanie Dunn. I don't use Buhrman anymore. 259 00:18:43,516 --> 00:18:44,976 It attracts creeps. 260 00:18:45,501 --> 00:18:46,914 - I'd like to talk to you about... - I know 261 00:18:46,938 --> 00:18:48,398 what you wanna talk to me about. 262 00:18:48,423 --> 00:18:50,092 I am not interested. 263 00:18:50,117 --> 00:18:52,116 I saw the video of your statement. 264 00:18:53,501 --> 00:18:54,968 Mom! 265 00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:58,585 Everything all right? 266 00:18:58,610 --> 00:19:00,546 Yeah. We're all done here. Right? 267 00:19:00,713 --> 00:19:02,351 Thank you for your time. 268 00:19:02,692 --> 00:19:04,452 - Mom! - Hey. Come here! 269 00:19:04,477 --> 00:19:07,484 - Hi. How are you? - Good. Who's that? 270 00:19:07,509 --> 00:19:08,676 Nobody. 271 00:19:08,701 --> 00:19:10,773 Hi. Hi, hi, hi. 272 00:19:23,645 --> 00:19:26,796 "He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High 273 00:19:27,036 --> 00:19:29,728 will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. 274 00:19:29,753 --> 00:19:33,549 I will say of the Lord, 'He is my refuge and my fortress, 275 00:19:33,574 --> 00:19:35,618 my God in whom I trust.' 276 00:19:36,074 --> 00:19:39,655 Surely, He will save you from the fowler's snare 277 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,682 and from the deadly pestilence. 278 00:19:42,002 --> 00:19:44,062 He will cover you with His feathers, 279 00:19:44,087 --> 00:19:46,937 and under His wings you will find refuge. 280 00:19:47,317 --> 00:19:50,945 His faithfulness will be your shield and rampart. 281 00:19:51,224 --> 00:19:53,695 You will not fear the terror of night, 282 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,963 nor the arrow that flies by day... 283 00:19:55,988 --> 00:19:57,047 You in trouble. 284 00:19:57,072 --> 00:19:58,800 ... the pestilence that stalks in the darkness... 285 00:19:58,824 --> 00:20:00,188 - You gonna get a whippin'. - ... or the plague 286 00:20:00,212 --> 00:20:01,879 that destroys at midday." 287 00:20:04,780 --> 00:20:07,179 - Amen. - Amen. 288 00:20:08,852 --> 00:20:10,616 Hi, Sister Claire. 289 00:20:11,420 --> 00:20:13,438 Sister Claire. Have a good one. 290 00:20:13,463 --> 00:20:16,562 - You ready for your party, Daddy? - I ain't ready to get older. 291 00:20:16,587 --> 00:20:18,469 Well, it's either a party thrown by your family 292 00:20:18,494 --> 00:20:20,127 or one given by the undertaker. 293 00:20:20,152 --> 00:20:22,489 - The first one sounds good to me. - Mmm. 294 00:20:22,670 --> 00:20:23,899 Ooh. 295 00:20:23,924 --> 00:20:26,282 I'm sorry, Daddy. Excuse me. 296 00:20:26,558 --> 00:20:28,001 Hello? 297 00:20:28,077 --> 00:20:32,227 Listen, I don't trust a word that you say, Ms. Parnell, 298 00:20:32,252 --> 00:20:34,555 but I've gotten you in to see him. 299 00:20:34,580 --> 00:20:37,421 - What? - Warren. In San Quentin. 300 00:20:37,446 --> 00:20:39,548 Thank you, Melanie. You won't regret this. 301 00:20:39,573 --> 00:20:41,158 And this is nonnegotiable. 302 00:20:41,183 --> 00:20:44,478 You say nothing about my condition. 303 00:20:44,503 --> 00:20:45,712 Understood. 304 00:20:45,908 --> 00:20:48,795 You ready? Lillian got food at the house. 305 00:20:48,820 --> 00:20:53,241 Uh, I got a little business thing that I need to handle. 306 00:20:53,339 --> 00:20:55,381 Church on Sunday, food with the family. 307 00:20:55,406 --> 00:20:56,420 That's how we do it. 308 00:20:56,444 --> 00:20:59,428 I know, Daddy. I'll see you at the party next week. 309 00:20:59,806 --> 00:21:01,558 - Love you, Daddy. - Love you too. 310 00:21:02,638 --> 00:21:04,108 Let's go. 311 00:21:04,133 --> 00:21:06,788 Where she going? Not like she got a job. 312 00:21:19,514 --> 00:21:23,342 When most kids his age were graduating from high school, 313 00:21:23,367 --> 00:21:26,178 joining the army, starting new jobs, 314 00:21:26,203 --> 00:21:28,920 getting ready for college, planning for the future, 315 00:21:28,945 --> 00:21:32,655 going to parties with friends, falling in love, 316 00:21:33,298 --> 00:21:35,319 Warren Cave went to prison. 317 00:21:36,835 --> 00:21:39,108 He was 17 years old. 318 00:21:39,914 --> 00:21:43,388 Ladies and gentlemen, as we begin processing, please understand 319 00:21:43,413 --> 00:21:46,174 - that you're required to be compliant. - Seventeen. Think about that. 320 00:21:47,088 --> 00:21:48,826 I'm going to lift your bra. 321 00:21:48,851 --> 00:21:50,724 Please allow your breasts to hang. 322 00:21:51,666 --> 00:21:55,867 I understand what it's like to be an innocent child, 323 00:21:56,291 --> 00:22:00,047 discarded and thrown into a place where there's only darkness. 324 00:22:02,340 --> 00:22:05,635 That's why this stands as my deepest regret. 325 00:22:06,855 --> 00:22:08,308 Warren Cave. 326 00:22:09,817 --> 00:22:11,367 Warren Cave? 327 00:22:14,019 --> 00:22:16,531 Member of the press here to see a Level 2. 328 00:22:34,601 --> 00:22:36,429 Thanks for seeing me. 329 00:22:37,179 --> 00:22:39,429 Did your mother tell you why I'm here? 330 00:22:39,716 --> 00:22:43,492 You're the journalist, from before. 331 00:22:44,538 --> 00:22:46,242 Okay if I write? 332 00:22:47,646 --> 00:22:49,484 Why are you here? 333 00:22:49,810 --> 00:22:51,945 I think I can help you this time. 334 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,804 Look, not the bullshit. 335 00:22:55,644 --> 00:22:57,375 The truth. 336 00:22:58,328 --> 00:23:00,132 - Warren, listen... - Warren? 337 00:23:01,601 --> 00:23:03,398 First name? 338 00:23:05,851 --> 00:23:08,382 I live in a house... 339 00:23:08,407 --> 00:23:11,008 full of men who... 340 00:23:11,033 --> 00:23:13,554 breathe to lie... 341 00:23:14,021 --> 00:23:18,750 and I could smell yours before you even started talking. 342 00:23:19,941 --> 00:23:21,705 You're full of shit. 343 00:23:21,730 --> 00:23:23,625 Well, I'm here now. 344 00:23:24,144 --> 00:23:25,756 I can make up for it. 345 00:23:25,781 --> 00:23:27,054 Can you? 346 00:23:28,489 --> 00:23:30,629 And now you are here... 347 00:23:31,495 --> 00:23:33,226 ... for my blood. 348 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,242 Vampire. 349 00:23:40,829 --> 00:23:43,351 You fucking predator. 350 00:23:46,197 --> 00:23:51,312 Eeny, meeny, miny, Moe. 351 00:23:52,831 --> 00:23:58,234 Catch a tiger by her toe. 352 00:23:59,441 --> 00:24:04,132 If she hollers, don't let her go. 353 00:24:05,412 --> 00:24:11,578 Eeny, meeny, miny, Moe. 354 00:24:13,166 --> 00:24:14,742 - Where you going? - Guard. 355 00:24:18,619 --> 00:24:20,162 Why you running, Poppy? 356 00:24:30,058 --> 00:24:33,140 Damn it! God damn it. Damn it. 357 00:24:44,714 --> 00:24:47,383 You didn't tell me your son was a damn Nazi. 358 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,664 - Does it really matter? - Of course it does. 359 00:24:56,174 --> 00:24:59,478 A woman so noble that she overlooked 360 00:24:59,503 --> 00:25:01,185 the faults of an enemy 361 00:25:01,210 --> 00:25:03,697 to prove his innocence. 362 00:25:03,994 --> 00:25:08,111 I can see the headlines now. Hell, I can see the movie. 363 00:25:08,699 --> 00:25:11,320 - You good, love? - I'll have another Popsicle. 364 00:25:11,345 --> 00:25:13,222 - Sure thing. - Thank you. 365 00:25:14,627 --> 00:25:17,837 Whatever you saw in there, 366 00:25:18,205 --> 00:25:20,658 that's not who my son really is. 367 00:25:21,104 --> 00:25:22,830 Don't be that mother. 368 00:25:22,942 --> 00:25:26,043 Your son is bone-deep in that raggedy tribe. 369 00:25:26,068 --> 00:25:30,072 My son was sent to prison as a child. 370 00:25:30,097 --> 00:25:32,516 Your articles helped put him there. 371 00:25:32,541 --> 00:25:36,197 He would never have become that thing if he wasn't locked up. 372 00:25:36,222 --> 00:25:37,222 You don't know that. 373 00:25:37,246 --> 00:25:41,583 I know that there is a monster inside every one of us, 374 00:25:41,608 --> 00:25:45,019 and his was unleashed in prison. 375 00:25:46,501 --> 00:25:48,878 Mine when I smoked my first cigarette. 376 00:25:49,284 --> 00:25:51,011 What about you? 377 00:25:51,098 --> 00:25:52,667 What's in there? 378 00:25:53,564 --> 00:25:58,134 Was it your monster that made you disregard an innocent boy 379 00:25:58,159 --> 00:26:00,202 for all these years 380 00:26:00,227 --> 00:26:02,187 and then come and sit here today 381 00:26:02,212 --> 00:26:06,312 and judge the man that he was forced to become? 382 00:26:07,213 --> 00:26:10,828 Help me get my son out of prison 383 00:26:10,853 --> 00:26:14,424 so I can see him again, on the outside, 384 00:26:14,449 --> 00:26:17,744 and maybe God will forget that you're a sinner. 385 00:26:18,918 --> 00:26:21,781 Maybe He'll let your monster sleep. 386 00:26:35,708 --> 00:26:39,320 Hey, guys. Jimmy. Jack. Good to see y'all. 387 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:42,640 - Yeah, it looks right. - Hey. 388 00:26:43,136 --> 00:26:45,372 - Hey. - Hey. 389 00:26:45,397 --> 00:26:46,961 Why were you texting me all panicked? 390 00:26:46,986 --> 00:26:49,572 I need some help with something. A little advice. 391 00:26:50,378 --> 00:26:52,004 Okay. That looks good. 392 00:26:52,029 --> 00:26:54,070 You good? Looks good, Herbie. 393 00:26:57,485 --> 00:26:58,486 This is easy. 394 00:26:58,511 --> 00:27:01,109 Uh, don't use the juice you got from that podcast 395 00:27:01,134 --> 00:27:02,472 to help some AB motherfucker. 396 00:27:02,497 --> 00:27:03,845 That's it. That's all. It's simple. 397 00:27:03,869 --> 00:27:06,258 Wait, what? Miss Social Justice Warrior? 398 00:27:06,283 --> 00:27:08,070 Swastikas will change some shit. 399 00:27:08,095 --> 00:27:10,195 I built my career on that boy's back, D. 400 00:27:10,220 --> 00:27:12,274 And a country was built on ours. Now what? 401 00:27:12,299 --> 00:27:14,009 You know what I hate about this family? 402 00:27:14,222 --> 00:27:16,528 Typical responses to complicated shit. 403 00:27:16,553 --> 00:27:17,931 How the hell you cracking on the family 404 00:27:17,955 --> 00:27:19,615 and shedding tears over a racist asshole? 405 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,164 I'm shedding... I'm not shedding tears. 406 00:27:22,189 --> 00:27:23,820 Okay? I just... 407 00:27:24,048 --> 00:27:26,663 There is some guilt if I had anything to do with this. 408 00:27:26,688 --> 00:27:28,539 That's what the Lord is for. 409 00:27:29,358 --> 00:27:30,584 Look, you want a cause? 410 00:27:30,609 --> 00:27:32,878 Use your juice to get Butchie out of Pelican Bay. 411 00:27:32,903 --> 00:27:35,447 He had a drunk public defender. No eyewitnesses. 412 00:27:35,472 --> 00:27:36,590 Bullshit charges. 413 00:27:36,615 --> 00:27:38,633 His mother died while he was in there. 414 00:27:38,658 --> 00:27:41,437 Or our cousin, who you never visit. 415 00:27:41,462 --> 00:27:43,539 What are y'all fussing about? 416 00:27:43,793 --> 00:27:45,432 Hey, Big Time. 417 00:27:45,457 --> 00:27:47,617 I thought you was too good to come hang out at the bar. 418 00:27:47,642 --> 00:27:49,314 I don't have time for your shit, Lillian. 419 00:27:49,339 --> 00:27:50,339 My shit? 420 00:27:50,364 --> 00:27:52,802 I just came out here 'cause we getting ready to start the boil. 421 00:27:52,826 --> 00:27:54,353 The crawfish just got here. 422 00:27:55,141 --> 00:27:58,102 Hey, come look at the bike I got your daddy for his birthday. 423 00:28:04,023 --> 00:28:05,298 Bam. 424 00:28:06,022 --> 00:28:07,439 You like it? 425 00:28:07,763 --> 00:28:09,298 Daddy will like it. 426 00:28:13,725 --> 00:28:15,298 Come on, girl. 427 00:28:15,445 --> 00:28:18,590 We got family. We got good music. 428 00:28:18,615 --> 00:28:20,267 We got crawfish. 429 00:28:20,701 --> 00:28:22,494 And we got a step-mama younger than you. 430 00:28:23,711 --> 00:28:25,376 You need to quit. 431 00:28:26,750 --> 00:28:28,669 I think this is gonna work for him. 432 00:28:35,507 --> 00:28:37,369 Watch out, baby. Watch out. 433 00:28:39,753 --> 00:28:43,212 - Hey. - Thank you. 434 00:28:43,245 --> 00:28:44,533 Is this free? 435 00:28:44,558 --> 00:28:45,684 On the house. 436 00:28:46,228 --> 00:28:47,578 Oh, there's Daddy. 437 00:28:47,603 --> 00:28:49,438 - Hey. - Thank you. God bless you. 438 00:28:49,463 --> 00:28:50,956 Brother Shreve. What's up, baby? 439 00:28:50,981 --> 00:28:52,482 Bless you, brother. 440 00:28:55,253 --> 00:28:57,422 Oh, man. 441 00:29:00,613 --> 00:29:02,700 Why you laughin' so hard? 442 00:29:05,537 --> 00:29:07,122 Cheers. 443 00:29:10,042 --> 00:29:12,069 - Good stuff. - It is. 444 00:29:13,956 --> 00:29:16,045 I see you still on that Hangar 1. 445 00:29:16,073 --> 00:29:19,151 - How you doing, Markus? - Not as good as you. 446 00:29:19,176 --> 00:29:22,304 Talk to me. What's happening? You tryin' to avoiding me or somethin'? 447 00:29:22,329 --> 00:29:24,882 I've been in here almost an hour. You ain't come talk to me once. 448 00:29:24,906 --> 00:29:28,264 Ain't nobody worried about you. Is your wife here? 449 00:29:28,909 --> 00:29:30,897 You know I'm divorced. 450 00:29:30,922 --> 00:29:32,632 I don't keep tabs on you. 451 00:29:32,657 --> 00:29:34,239 - Oh, yeah? - Mm. 452 00:29:34,264 --> 00:29:35,417 Well, lookee here, 453 00:29:35,442 --> 00:29:36,988 Miss Don't Keep Tabs, 454 00:29:37,013 --> 00:29:40,355 your sister tells me you was looking into some old crime. 455 00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:42,633 Now, you know I'm not with OPD anymore, 456 00:29:42,658 --> 00:29:46,011 but I still do a little investigating on the side for them. 457 00:29:46,036 --> 00:29:48,205 - A small fee. - Mm. 458 00:29:48,619 --> 00:29:51,167 - My sister talks too much. - Oh, since the cradle. 459 00:29:53,476 --> 00:29:55,636 You know that ain't got nothing to do with nothing. 460 00:29:55,661 --> 00:29:56,948 Hey, listen, 461 00:29:56,973 --> 00:30:00,640 and this is serious, if you need anything, anything... 462 00:30:00,876 --> 00:30:02,378 all you gotta do is holler. 463 00:30:04,797 --> 00:30:06,524 - I'm good. - Oh, you good now? 464 00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:08,253 - I'm good. - You good? 465 00:30:08,278 --> 00:30:10,112 - Are you sure? - She's good. 466 00:30:11,048 --> 00:30:13,809 Ingram Rhoades. Poppy's husband. 467 00:30:14,077 --> 00:30:17,004 All right, brother. Markus Killebrew. 468 00:30:17,439 --> 00:30:19,035 Poppy's roadkill. 469 00:30:19,398 --> 00:30:22,981 - Always worried about my sister. - Oh, there she is. 470 00:30:23,006 --> 00:30:24,842 You should holler at me sometime. 471 00:30:24,867 --> 00:30:27,192 If I did that, then I'd have to worry about you. 472 00:30:27,217 --> 00:30:30,379 - Well, is that bad? - She don't stop. 473 00:30:31,597 --> 00:30:33,270 Y'all enjoy your evening. 474 00:30:35,121 --> 00:30:37,348 - Hey there. - Hey. 475 00:30:38,075 --> 00:30:40,285 - Trifling. You are so trifling. - Mmhmm. 476 00:30:41,047 --> 00:30:43,434 "Hey, y'all enjoy your evening." 477 00:30:43,459 --> 00:30:45,738 You guys sound so great. Thanks for coming. 478 00:30:45,763 --> 00:30:47,215 Happy birthday, man. 479 00:30:47,379 --> 00:30:48,754 - Hey! - Hey. 480 00:30:49,192 --> 00:30:51,577 When you gonna have me and Lillian up to that fancy house? 481 00:30:51,602 --> 00:30:53,832 Oh, you welcome anytime, Daddy. 482 00:30:53,992 --> 00:30:56,832 Hey! Watch what the hell you doing! 483 00:30:56,857 --> 00:30:58,192 - Sorry, man. - It's okay, Daddy. 484 00:30:58,217 --> 00:30:59,710 I'm all right. Just calm down. 485 00:30:59,735 --> 00:31:02,713 "Calm down"? Who are you to tell me what to do? 486 00:31:02,738 --> 00:31:03,881 Daddy? 487 00:31:03,906 --> 00:31:05,282 Everything okay? 488 00:31:05,307 --> 00:31:08,582 This silly woman sitting here trying to tell me what to do. 489 00:31:08,809 --> 00:31:11,923 Okay, Boo, I got this. It's cool. 490 00:31:11,948 --> 00:31:14,418 You go on and enjoy the rest of the party. 491 00:31:16,373 --> 00:31:17,926 Wait, where you going? 492 00:31:19,237 --> 00:31:20,739 To get something to eat. 493 00:31:23,362 --> 00:31:24,606 Poppy? 494 00:31:25,277 --> 00:31:26,278 Yeah, Daddy. 495 00:31:26,303 --> 00:31:29,431 I always knew you'd find a way to mess things all up. 496 00:31:29,456 --> 00:31:32,250 Got more of your mama's blood in you than mine, and all of them crazy. 497 00:31:32,275 --> 00:31:33,955 Okay, now wait a minute, old man. 498 00:31:33,980 --> 00:31:36,872 This party here is for you. 499 00:31:36,897 --> 00:31:39,066 Everybody that's here, baby, is for you. 500 00:31:39,733 --> 00:31:42,339 - Okay? - Yeah, sweetheart. Okay. 501 00:31:42,364 --> 00:31:44,505 Hey, Popsicle! 502 00:31:44,530 --> 00:31:46,436 Come here. Give me some sugar. 503 00:31:47,741 --> 00:31:50,100 Mm. Go on and enjoy yourself. 504 00:31:51,047 --> 00:31:53,514 - Sit with me, sweetheart. - Absolutely. 505 00:31:56,291 --> 00:31:58,210 Something's wrong with Daddy. 506 00:31:59,585 --> 00:32:01,571 For a moment, he didn't even recognize me. 507 00:32:01,596 --> 00:32:03,729 He said the most hateful things. 508 00:32:03,984 --> 00:32:06,180 Your father's always been edgy. 509 00:32:06,243 --> 00:32:08,719 No. It wasn't that. 510 00:32:08,905 --> 00:32:10,198 It was different. 511 00:32:12,129 --> 00:32:13,742 Lillian wasn't surprised. 512 00:32:13,767 --> 00:32:16,562 Let's wait for everybody to sober up. 513 00:32:16,587 --> 00:32:18,631 Find out what they all know. 514 00:32:54,808 --> 00:32:55,976 Hey, Aunt Susan. 515 00:32:56,267 --> 00:32:57,870 Jesus, Lanie. 516 00:32:57,895 --> 00:33:00,372 Sorry. I used my key. 517 00:33:00,397 --> 00:33:01,773 No, you don't need to be sorry. 518 00:33:01,798 --> 00:33:05,110 Just text me so I know that you're gonna be here. 519 00:33:06,124 --> 00:33:07,680 What's going on? 520 00:33:08,349 --> 00:33:09,766 Um... 521 00:33:10,101 --> 00:33:13,227 You know how every few years a... 522 00:33:13,252 --> 00:33:15,053 vulture comes out of the woodwork 523 00:33:15,078 --> 00:33:17,211 and starts asking about my dad? 524 00:33:18,415 --> 00:33:21,183 - What now? - This woman. 525 00:33:21,574 --> 00:33:23,183 She came to my house, 526 00:33:23,208 --> 00:33:26,871 and she accosted me in front of Alex and Ella. 527 00:33:26,896 --> 00:33:29,191 - Who? - Poppy Parnell. 528 00:33:29,216 --> 00:33:31,051 You remember? She's that reporter. 529 00:33:31,076 --> 00:33:34,120 She wrote a bunch of stories about Warren for the Chronicle? 530 00:33:34,462 --> 00:33:36,488 She's doing a podcast. 531 00:33:36,513 --> 00:33:37,973 - What'd you say? - Nothing. 532 00:33:37,998 --> 00:33:40,709 Because none of us should be saying anything to her. 533 00:33:42,989 --> 00:33:45,285 But I do need to talk to Josie. 534 00:33:47,277 --> 00:33:49,535 I-I bought some ice cream. 535 00:33:50,525 --> 00:33:52,360 I remember when that would fix everything. 536 00:33:52,385 --> 00:33:54,347 - It's mint chip. Want some? - Aunt Susan. 537 00:33:54,372 --> 00:33:57,011 I really need to warn Josie. 538 00:33:57,381 --> 00:33:59,261 Your sister wants to be left alone. 539 00:33:59,286 --> 00:34:01,691 I know that. That's why I need to talk to her. 540 00:34:02,026 --> 00:34:04,904 Because what if this woman goes after her? 541 00:34:06,698 --> 00:34:09,894 If it's an emergency, I can get a message to her. 542 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,300 Everything's gonna be okay. I promise. 543 00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:17,769 Don't let this woman upend all the hard work that you've done. 544 00:34:17,940 --> 00:34:19,358 You've come too far. 545 00:34:20,740 --> 00:34:21,933 Okay? 546 00:34:23,186 --> 00:34:25,152 - Promise? - Promise. 547 00:34:45,467 --> 00:34:49,815 Was it your monster that made you disregard an innocent boy 548 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,894 for all these years? 549 00:34:56,225 --> 00:34:59,077 - What? - Leave it off, babe. 550 00:35:00,128 --> 00:35:02,601 - What's going on? - Nothing. Just... 551 00:35:03,111 --> 00:35:04,913 No. Talk to me. 552 00:35:06,366 --> 00:35:08,397 I didn't do enough. 553 00:35:08,851 --> 00:35:10,343 With your father? 554 00:35:10,850 --> 00:35:12,404 No. 555 00:35:13,053 --> 00:35:14,679 For Warren Cave. 556 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,219 Baby, you... Baby, you can't beat yourself up about that. Okay? 557 00:35:19,244 --> 00:35:21,747 You wrote those stories based on what you knew at the time, 558 00:35:21,772 --> 00:35:24,116 and you didn't know about the tape. 559 00:35:26,603 --> 00:35:28,358 But I did. 560 00:35:30,420 --> 00:35:33,272 When I first looked into Warren's case, I... 561 00:35:33,673 --> 00:35:37,635 I heard rumors about Lanie being coached. 562 00:35:38,672 --> 00:35:41,843 That there was a tape. I could've looked into it. 563 00:35:44,751 --> 00:35:46,374 When did you hear? 564 00:35:47,170 --> 00:35:49,382 When I was writing the second article. 565 00:35:50,173 --> 00:35:51,749 You never told me that. 566 00:35:51,774 --> 00:35:55,681 Well, the series was already getting attention. 567 00:35:55,936 --> 00:35:59,986 It felt meaningful. Impactful. 568 00:36:00,364 --> 00:36:02,478 It was opening doors for me. 569 00:36:02,909 --> 00:36:07,669 But it was all based on the idea that Warren was guilty. 570 00:36:08,726 --> 00:36:12,147 The tape didn't matter at that point if it was true. 571 00:36:12,172 --> 00:36:14,967 Did you bury evidence? No. Of course not. 572 00:36:14,992 --> 00:36:15,993 - No. - Okay. All right. 573 00:36:16,018 --> 00:36:17,311 Then help me understand here. 574 00:36:17,336 --> 00:36:21,192 Because there are a million rumors about any given case. 575 00:36:21,767 --> 00:36:23,659 Did you trust the source? 576 00:36:23,684 --> 00:36:26,061 I never looked into it, Ingram. 577 00:36:26,468 --> 00:36:28,849 I told myself it didn't matter. 578 00:36:28,874 --> 00:36:31,809 But it was my job to look at everything. 579 00:36:31,834 --> 00:36:33,442 I chose not to. 580 00:36:35,335 --> 00:36:37,700 I can't ignore it a second time. 581 00:36:39,411 --> 00:36:40,536 Yes, you can. 582 00:36:40,561 --> 00:36:43,169 Ingram. I can't. 583 00:36:52,592 --> 00:36:55,261 You think I believe that pathetic shit on your arms? 584 00:36:56,876 --> 00:37:00,863 You think I believe that squirrelly little boy from Menlo Park, 585 00:37:00,888 --> 00:37:05,517 the one without a single friend, arrived believing all that? 586 00:37:08,219 --> 00:37:12,216 You joined up so you wouldn't have to become someone's bitch. 587 00:37:13,082 --> 00:37:16,677 I bet they were trading you like playing cards. 588 00:37:16,702 --> 00:37:19,169 Popping your ass like bubble gum. 589 00:37:20,282 --> 00:37:24,020 If you're tired of that, of this, 590 00:37:24,615 --> 00:37:26,263 we can get to work. 591 00:37:34,984 --> 00:37:36,575 Your mother's dying. 592 00:37:43,425 --> 00:37:44,989 Oh, yeah? 593 00:37:47,340 --> 00:37:48,817 What's wrong with her? 594 00:37:48,842 --> 00:37:50,928 - Tell me about the Buhrmans. - Fuck you! 595 00:37:50,953 --> 00:37:52,731 Get mad if you want. 596 00:37:56,167 --> 00:37:57,669 Get mad if you want to. 597 00:37:57,694 --> 00:38:00,405 But she won't tell you, and she might not come back. 598 00:38:01,586 --> 00:38:03,921 And then she'll die without you ever seeing her again. 599 00:38:06,745 --> 00:38:09,575 Why were your prints found all over that house? 600 00:38:10,846 --> 00:38:13,747 I used to go "hunting" at the Buhrman house. 601 00:38:24,182 --> 00:38:25,684 "Hunting"? 602 00:38:26,163 --> 00:38:28,692 Just stupid kid shit. 603 00:38:29,979 --> 00:38:32,770 The mom, Erin Buhrman, 604 00:38:32,803 --> 00:38:36,281 used to play like she was better than everyone else. 605 00:38:36,306 --> 00:38:37,557 But I knew. 606 00:38:38,327 --> 00:38:42,895 Everyone knew that she was a pillhead. 607 00:38:43,047 --> 00:38:46,005 I went there searching for drugs. 608 00:38:47,590 --> 00:38:48,989 In and out. 609 00:38:49,144 --> 00:38:50,606 That's it. 610 00:38:54,042 --> 00:38:57,138 I went straight to the medicine cabinet. 611 00:39:22,928 --> 00:39:27,575 My prints were found because I went hunting. 612 00:39:35,614 --> 00:39:38,481 Josie, is that you? 613 00:39:38,897 --> 00:39:40,825 Go back to bed, Lanie. 614 00:39:49,488 --> 00:39:53,411 I got what I was looking for, and I got out of there. 615 00:40:05,548 --> 00:40:09,301 So, you were there looking for drugs? Nothing else? 616 00:40:09,326 --> 00:40:11,578 I told you I was hunting. 617 00:40:13,613 --> 00:40:16,997 Did you go "hunting" the night of the murder? 618 00:40:22,461 --> 00:40:23,765 No. 619 00:40:27,602 --> 00:40:31,731 Remember when you told me that men in here breathe to lie? 620 00:40:34,554 --> 00:40:36,966 I was a reporter for over 20 years. 621 00:40:36,991 --> 00:40:39,138 So I know a lie when I hear one too. 622 00:40:39,932 --> 00:40:41,559 You're not telling me the truth. 623 00:40:43,118 --> 00:40:44,911 Your mother has lung cancer. 624 00:40:44,936 --> 00:40:48,020 She was given six months to live four months ago. 625 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,176 Is there anything else you want to tell me? 626 00:41:09,094 --> 00:41:11,153 So will you help me get out of here? 627 00:41:17,538 --> 00:41:19,942 If you promise to tell me the truth. 628 00:41:22,660 --> 00:41:24,059 Deal. 629 00:41:27,361 --> 00:41:29,224 I just want to get something straight 630 00:41:29,249 --> 00:41:31,489 before we start down this road. 631 00:41:32,980 --> 00:41:36,864 If you ever even breathe anything racist 632 00:41:36,889 --> 00:41:38,223 in my direction, 633 00:41:38,248 --> 00:41:41,502 I will make sure you die in here without ever seeing your mother again. 634 00:41:42,016 --> 00:41:43,645 Understand? 635 00:41:50,164 --> 00:41:52,028 I need to hear you say it. 636 00:41:53,608 --> 00:41:55,395 I understand. 637 00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:57,903 Okay. 638 00:42:01,741 --> 00:42:03,427 My name is Warren Cave. 639 00:42:03,452 --> 00:42:08,457 I live at San Quentin prison where I was sent in the summer of 2000 640 00:42:08,482 --> 00:42:11,958 for the murder of my neighbor, Chuck Buhrman. 641 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,786 Every week I come to you, and I bring you a story. 642 00:42:17,701 --> 00:42:19,177 I do interviews. 643 00:42:19,202 --> 00:42:21,520 None of them ever about me. 644 00:42:22,427 --> 00:42:24,208 This time it'll be different. 645 00:42:25,913 --> 00:42:28,981 - 9-1-1, what's your emergency? - I, I... 646 00:42:29,006 --> 00:42:31,536 - Hello? - I, I don't know. I think... 647 00:42:31,561 --> 00:42:33,153 Ma'am, what's your emergency? 648 00:42:33,178 --> 00:42:35,543 Uh, he's dead, he's dead. 649 00:42:35,568 --> 00:42:38,217 Dad, no! Please. No. 650 00:42:39,721 --> 00:42:41,450 Nineteen years ago, 651 00:42:41,475 --> 00:42:46,184 prominent Bay Area author, Chuck Buhrman, was murdered. 652 00:42:46,209 --> 00:42:50,045 The focus quickly turned to the Buhrmans' 16-year-old neighbor, 653 00:42:50,070 --> 00:42:51,405 Warren Cave. 654 00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:52,438 The night of the murder, 655 00:42:52,462 --> 00:42:55,509 did you see the person before they jumped the fence? 656 00:42:55,534 --> 00:42:57,106 I think so. 657 00:42:57,131 --> 00:42:59,005 I don't know why Lanie lied. 658 00:43:02,254 --> 00:43:03,851 And that's where I come in. 659 00:43:03,876 --> 00:43:05,872 Poppy Parnell portrayed me 660 00:43:05,904 --> 00:43:09,247 as a privileged, entitled psychopath. 661 00:43:09,272 --> 00:43:13,559 I helped seal Warren's fate with a series of articles called, 662 00:43:13,584 --> 00:43:15,571 "Profile of a Monster." 663 00:43:15,596 --> 00:43:17,282 We, the jury, being duly impaneled... 664 00:43:17,306 --> 00:43:20,927 Warren was sentenced to life in prison without parole. 665 00:43:21,155 --> 00:43:24,981 Is there an innocent man in prison? 666 00:43:26,140 --> 00:43:30,231 And did I... lead that charge? 667 00:43:31,740 --> 00:43:34,208 My name is Poppy Parnell. 668 00:43:34,241 --> 00:43:36,013 And I'd like you... 669 00:43:36,038 --> 00:43:37,474 to reconsider. 670 00:43:37,577 --> 00:43:40,977 Synced & corrected by QueenMaddie www.addic7ed.com