- Previously on "The Betty Broderick Story"...
- What are you doing?
- I never have time to think about anything.
If I could just have some time by myself
The kids are at camp where you are not listed
as next of kin.
When they come back, they'll be living with me.
I'm seeking an emergency judgment.
I'm in love with her.
- Was I ever imagining it?
- No, you were right the whole time.
Will you marry me? - Yes.
- I'm divorced.
I wasn't even there. I didn't have a lawyer.
- As is usual in bifurcated divorces,
we now move on to court-ordered mediation.
- These contempt filings serve to deliberately
delay trial proceedings, which will dilute
Mrs. Broderick's share of community property.
- I have a calendar
of backed up contempt motions against your client.
I'm imposing 19 day suspended, 6 days in jail.
- Okay. Here you go.
Phone's against that wall. Cab number's on the board.
- Look, I got to go. Bye.
Mrs. Broderick? Sid Montgomery,
feature reporter for the San Diego Register.
- Oh, I'm I mean, I - Your case, your divorce,
might be the worst one I've seen in this county.
You've seen a lot of divorces, huh?
- Well, I cover the court, so yeah.
So I know that you've had it rough.
I just got caught up on all the proceedings
and seen how long they've been going on
and that the date for your property settlement
hasn't been set yet, so,
I thought maybe you might have some things to say
about all that on the record.
Look, I get it.
You want to get home, so...
This is my desk phone and my pager.
Okay?
Oh, and just remember,
sometimes a problem just needs a little daylight.
- I've seen the other side of life now.
The sordid, degrading side, and I'm a part of it.
And it actually wasn't any worse
than the hell in my head.
He sent me to jail and set me free.
There's nothing more liberating than to realize
you don't have to live up to anything anymore.
- This just doesn't sound like how you said she acts.
Like, signing her name to your legal documents
- Yeah, and putting her voice on his machine.
- It's always at such a remove.
Passive, you know? - Plausible deniability.
- Yeah, are we even sure that's her handwriting?
- I wondered that too. It looks so
- If it wasn't the whore, who was it?
- Uh
- I'm sorry this happened to you on top of everything else.
It just - Do you want to talk?
- About what, the engagement? We are talking about it.
Also, how is Dan Broderick on his knees in a bar newsworthy?
- What about jail, Betty? It must've been terrible.
- Actually, it was interesting. I made a lot of new friends.
- Hey, did you ever figure out an outfit
for Tracy's graduation?
Karen, did you find one for Scott's?
- Well, I thought I did, and it looked great in the store,
and it looked great in my walk-in,
and then I go to answer the phone wearing it,
and I saw myself in the hall mirror and died.
- Never look at yourself in the hall.
- Betty, what are you wearing?
- I wonder if she thinks she's coming.
- Who?
- Linda "The Whore" Kolkena, to my daughter's graduation.
Can't you just see her waltzing her skinny ass right in there?
All I can say is, if that happens,
then I'll know the bastard has really lost his goddamn mind.
You were here before.
- Feature desk. This is Sid.
- Hi, Sid. It's Elisabeth Broderick.
I was just given the date of my property settlement hearing.
- Well, that's good news, right?
- I don't know,
but I decided I want my side of the story out
before it happens.
with a 19 year old and a red sports car.
- Huh. - The girlfriend, the Corvette,
the "Risky Business" sunglasses,
a cover boy for "Midlife Crisis Magazine."
- "Cool, man, cool."
I'd think it was hilarious if it wasn't my husband.
- Well, you have a sense of humor about it.
But so there might be some people who could think
your situation's not all that bad.
- Didn't I meet you in jail? - Well, that's true.
- I realize I'm lucky.
I'm healthy.
I have more than most people will ever have in their life.
But if Dan had defrauded a business partner
the way he did me when he broke our contract,
he'd be the one in jail, not me.
Our first baby graduating,
our baby who was there with us on our honeymoon
and we didn't even know it.
What will he say?
He'll have to say something, today of all days.
He'll talk to me. He'll be nice.
He has to.
He'll be nice to me today.
- Ladies and gentlemen, our new graduates.
- Hi. - Hi, sweetie!
- Oh, you're so pretty.
- Mom.
I couldn't find you. Hi.
- How could he bring her here?
- I would
- Did you try saying, "This is a family event.
"My mother is going to see her daughter graduate,
"and your presence will just detract
"from the joy at my achievement
"because everyone will just be talking about
how my father left us for the tacky office slut."
- I - Tell me I'm wrong.
You can't.
- Oh, my God, Trace. Look at you.
Are you just so proud, Betty? - Hi, sweetie.
- Remember from church the two of them in the Noah's Ark play?
Oh, Fred has that camera. Let me take a picture.
- Oh, yeah, sure. - Please.
Here we go.
Okay, ready? So beautiful.
- Congratulations.
- That Linda's outfit was tacky, um,
and that you were tacky for bringing her,
and a shithead.
- In general, or just for bringing her?
And she never mentioned anything about the engagement?
Just the wedding china?
- Yeah, she just wants it back.
- Hmm. - She talked about it a lot.
Like, a lot.
- And you're sure that she didn't get it
from the Coral Reef house?
And she hasn't mentioned it before, has she?
- I've never seen it on any of her lists of asks.
- Hunter's coming. I'm gonna change.
I mean, if we could find it, it could buy us some peace.
- Why does she suddenly want it now?
- Oh, she just does. Why anything?
Linda, she probably didn't have any film in the camera.
- Of course she did.
- Okay, but so we're gonna go from that
to getting an alarm system for the house?
She's gonna think she's the master of mind control.
How much do you think she's gonna love it
if we turn our house into a fortress
because she pretended to take some photos of you?
- It's not about that specifically.
It's not just about that.
- Mm-hmm.
- Can't we get an alarm just to have one?
Do we have to care if Betty might love it if we do?
- No, but we have to care about teaching her
that she can get me to react.
- When I filed a claim, not only did they say
they weren't gonna pay me for one week,
they docked me two years pay.
So then I tried to file a complaint,
but HR said since I was no longer an employee,
I had no standing to file anything.
So then I just gave up.
But with HALT, I finally have people on my side.
- Thank you, Margaret.
- Thank you.
- Okay, everyone, uh, let's take a quick break.
Are you Elisabeth Broderick?
I've heard about your case.
- You don't know the half of it.
- Well, I know you don't have a lawyer
and that your ex-husband is one.
And I know you have a lot of kindred spirits in here.
Would you be willing to talk to the group?
Yeah? All right.
Hey, everyone, this is Elisabeth.
She's gonna talk now.
- Hi.
I was married for 16 years, and now I'm not.
My husband hired a bimbo and told me
he didn't want me anymore, after only a couple years
of lying to me about it every day first.
He won't let me see my kids, I don't have a settlement,
and he fines me when I call him a dickhead
on his answering machine.
But I'm sure things are gonna start going my way
now that he's president of the San Diego Bar.
Also, call me "Betty."
- When's the interview come out?
- Soon I hope before the hearing,
so if Dan tries to get the courtroom closed,
people will know why. - Hmm.
What about an attorney? Any luck?
- You want to know what I've decided?
You ready? - Mm-hmm.
- I'm gonna do it
uh, appear, what's it, uh,
pro se.
Represent myself.
Legalese.
Why is "pro se" short for "in propria persona?"
Why isn't it "pro per?"
Nobody knows better what a cheat Dan is.
Nobody knows our history better.
I will have him cornered on the witness stand.
He will have to go on record in public
and say that he put me in an asylum, put me in jail,
left me for the office whore, let my son get lice,
where he was when our baby died.
- Hmm.
Do you have any sense how much you owe Dan
in terms of Epsteins?
- Yeah, that is something
I've been wondering about Epsteins.
Why do I have to reimburse Dan
for the down payment on my house,
when he doesn't have to repay me for the one on his?
We were married when we bought both houses.
- Right. Yeah.
So this is where the date of separation comes in.
From the day he moved out,
divorced or not, it's all his money, not yours.
See, this is why an accountant would help,
and a lawyer of course,
to go after Dan's tax returns, his partnerships,
get a list of the cases he worked on
- Hilary asked for all of that.
Do I have it? No.
Besides, Dan's just gonna doctor his books anyway.
The only thing an attorney ever did for me was lose.
I can do that for free.
- Well,
will you at least let me help you try not to lose?
- Yes, I will.
Hi. I'd like a copy of my file.
- What's the caption? - Of what?
- Broderick versus Broderick.
Wow, you know the lingo.
- Well, in my divorce,
the first hearing,
the judge yelled at me for not wearing a dress.
He said in his courtroom,
men needed to wear suits and women needed to wear dresses.
- What were you wearing? - Liz Claiborne pants suit.
- Nice. Why are we whispering?
I I don't know.
It's not the library.
- File's not in the archive, and it's not in the courtroom.
I'll keep an eye out, but I don't have it.
Sorry.
- I've never heard of this happening,
but we need to rebuild that file.
But do you have motions Dan and his attorneys filed,
any summonses?
- I have all his letters.
I have everything he ever wrote me.
- Calendar number one, Broderick versus Broderick.
The plaintiff, Daniel Broderick,
is present with his attorney Walter Mills.
Also present is the defendant,
Elisabeth Broderick,
who is appearing pro se.
- Your Honor, I understand the press are present today.
My client has always been deeply concerned
of the negative impact
that civil review can have on his children,
and so we would request
that the courtroom be closed to the public.
- Mrs. Broderick?
- I'm for opening it up to everyone on principle.
It's a public proceeding.
I have nothing to hide.
And if I'm such the awful,
guilty person Dan paints me to be,
why is he so afraid of people knowing it?
- Well, as an adult,
Mr. Broderick can live with the choices he's made.
The issue here involves your vulnerable children.
- I don't think it's only about
hurting or not hurting my children.
- It's a terrible dilemma.
If you demand an open proceeding,
there is the inference that
that is not an appropriate parenting decision,
which could adversely affect your position
in the custody matter.
Whereas if you choose to have the proceeding closed,
you may be sacrificing your own personal needs
as you believe them to be.
- Yes, okay.
Close it, please.
Close it.
- All right, ladies and gentlemen,
please clear the court.
- Besides custody of the minor marital children,
Your Honor will face a problem of major proportions
when attempting to determine a settlement of property
in this case.
In addition, the issue of spousal support promises
to entail significant argument, but I'm confident
that with testimony and evidence submitted,
Your Honor will find in favor of Mr. Broderick.
Thank you.
- Mrs. Broderick,
would you like to make your opening statement now
or wait until you begin your case?
- Isn't isn't this the beginning?
I don't have one prepared.
I can make one.
I'm happy to be here
to get some resolution in this case,
get back some semblance of normalcy
in a life that feels like it's been under siege
for years.
My support, I would just like to be able to go on living.
I would like what's fair, what takes into account
in some way my contribution.
So I hope that we can settle something.
Thank you.
- Yes, I do have many investment properties,
especially in Colorado, but with the collapse
of oil values earlier in this decade and Colorado
being an energy state, their value shrunk.
I don't like it, I'm sure Bets doesn't like it,
but that's it.
All of my wealth really is in my law practice,
which, uh, I've had evaluated, and if the court agrees,
I intend to offer Bets half that value.
- Would you say that once you achieved success,
Mrs. Broderick was happy?
- The more money I made, the more she spent.
But no, she was never satisfied.
If it was expensive, she needed it.
- How would you describe the support that
Mrs. Broderick provided you
when you began your legal career?
- Nonexistent. - How would describe
Mrs. Broderick's itemized expenses
that she's using as the basis for her support allocation?
- Outrageous. - Would you characterize
Mrs. Broderick as driven by greed?
- Yes, and frankly,
I'm gonna have to tighten my expenses very soon
not just with a daughter going to college,
but I am getting remarried,
starting a new family.
I anticipate there will be expenses
in connection with that.
- Mr. Montgomery, it's Elisabeth Broderick again.
I was just calling about the article again,
when it's coming out?
It should've happened by now, don't you think?
Please let me know. Thanks.
Come here.
Where were you?
- The movies. Remember?
- I remember it started at 6:25.
- What are you doing?
- Preparing to examine a witness.
- You are? What witness?
Dad?
Shit.
Wow.
Okay.
- What movie did you see again?
- "Scrooged."
- Oh, yeah?
Come over here where I can see you.
- Why, what's your deal? - Do it.
Or you're grounded.
Now you're grounded for whatever it was
you were really doing.
- You know, when you examine Dad,
you should ask about all the nicknames
he and Linda call you.
"Crazy," obviously,
and "the monster,"
and "the beast."
- Your Honor, I don't have any firsthand knowledge
of the numbers presented by Mr. Broderick and Mr. Mills.
Nor do I know the law or really the rules of trial.
But I'll do my best to play the game,
and if you'll just let me know
if I'm making any mistakes along the way.
- Mr. Broderick,
when did this case start?
- February 28th, 1985.
- Oh, is that when you think it was?
- At our separation, is that what you mean?
- It isn't.
When was the moment this divorce really started?
- April 12th, 1969.
- And what's the relevance of that date for the record?
- That was the date we got married, Your Honor.
- What I'm trying to get at by asking "When did it start,"
is when did I first become aware
of your affair with Linda Kolkena?
- Objection. Relevance.
- Sustained.
In California, Mrs. Broderick,
as I'm sure you're aware, we recognize no-fault divorce.
Therefore the issue here today
is not one of whose fault the divorce was.
We are only here
to decide the question of division of property,
the assets of the community,
and to determine the appropriate parent
for the custody of the minor children.
- I was manipulated purposely and with malice
before this case was even filed by an expert attorney.
I'm trying to show how
how Dan cut me off from our community assets
from the start of his affair with Linda Kolkena.
- Then see if there isn't anything to develop
that relates to the assets.
You must refer to the assets,
not to any alleged affair, okay?
- Okay. Thank you, Your Honor.
Remember what my reaction was when you hired this girl?
- Objection. Relevance.
- Sustained.
You're still in the area of fault.
- Do you remember me telling you,
"Fire your assistant or get out of this house?"
- Objection. - Sustained.
- Wait
- Stay away from the alleged affair.
I cannot be more clear, okay?
- You want me to just change the whole subject?
Will that make you happy? - Yes, ma'am.
- Do you remember how we lived when we first got married?
- In New York? - Yeah.
How we lived mostly on my salary,
how we went through my savings?
- I remember you had a small nest egg
from babysitting, I think it was.
- You remember how hard it was?
All the jobs I had, even after I was pregnant?
- I remember you had various odd jobs, Tupperware,
the one from the department store on the holidays,
but I don't recall them being particularly helpful.
- You're saying we weren't poor?
Did we ever have to go on food stamps?
- I don't know.
We got food stamps once or twice.
- You remember we didn't have a crib when Tracy was born?
- What? No, I don't.
- You don't remember we didn't have a crib?
- From my memory, in my mind, uh,
these were it was a busy time.
We were stretched but we always came through all right.
- Oh, yeah.
Did I support you financially
while you were in medical school?
- You contributed to the upkeep of the household, yes.
- Why would I do that?
- I assume it was an investment
in your future as the wife of a wealthy doctor.
- You're saying I only did it for myself?
Is that what you thought at the time?
- I was busy at the time.
- If I was so invested in being a wealthy doctor's wife,
how'd you convince me to agree
to the idea of you going to law school?
- Well, I told you that
I could make more money as a lawyer with an MD.
- Did you contribute to our household income
while you were in law school?
No, you did not. Did I?
- We took out loans. - For tuition.
- But yes,
you did get some money in between pregnancies.
- When did you first start telling our children
that I was mentally ill?
- I don't recall putting it that way.
- When I would confront you with questions
about a certain party,
wasn't your answer that I was crazy?
- Could you be more specific?
- Were you seen out and around town
with Linda Kolkena in 1983?
- Objection.
- Mrs. Broderick, you've been warned.
- Okay, but this isn't an issue of fault.
His only grounds for keeping the kids is his claim
that I need psychiatric help.
He submitted reports to you, audio tapes
claiming I'm a mental case, that I'm crazy.
I'm just trying to prove that I'm not.
I'm trying to establish
why I might've been angry at the time that
- Mr. Broderick's outside activities are not assistive
to your present ability to parent.
Sustained.
- An Epstein credit ensures one spouse will be reimbursed
by the other for expenses or debts after separation.
- Haven't you dragged out payments
and encumbered properties
in order to increase my Epsteins to you?
- No, I have not. - Why else wouldn't you
have paid off the lake house or the Colorado properties?
Why haven't you paid back your Harvard Law School loans?
Why did you charge me half of these payments
two years after you left me?
- I pay my bills automatically every month.
I've been paying for Harvard on a monthly basis since 1974.
I just kept doing it, uh, out of habit.
If you're insinuating that this is some kind of plot,
I didn't learn about Epstein credits
until long after our separation.
- Wasn't your first lawyer Doug Layton,
an expert on Epsteins?
- Mrs. Broderick, you misunderstand the point.
- I don't think I do.
- Mr. Broderick either paid your expenses or he didn't,
and you're looking for skeletons where there are none.
- Dan, as I was looking through boxes of papers,
I happened on two bank withdrawals you made,
one for $175,000 closing out an account,
and one for $80,000 emptying another one,
both in February 1985.
Both before you left me.
On those days, you withdrew that money
February 5th and February 22nd.
Did you know you'd be leaving me on February 28th?
- No.
- But yet you closed out two accounts that I know of.
How did that money affect the valuation of your law practice?
'Cause it wasn't included in the appraisal.
- It should have.
Uh, those figures should have been adjusted.
Upward.
- Your Honor, uh, at which point in time
will you be valuing Dan's law practice?
At the time of separation four years ago,
or at the current time?
- Well, the community asset can be valued either/or.
- But you get to decide which.
- That is true.
- When?
- When the case is ended, uh, based on the facts
and the circumstances presented.
- Hmm. Okay.
The appraiser hired by Mr. Broderick
valued the practice on February 28th, 1985.
I didn't find anything in the record
evaluating its current worth, so you only have the "either."
You don't actually have the "or."
- That is true.
- Is that my responsibility to get?
- Correct.
- So do I need an expert, or do I just ask Mr. Broderick?
- Well, you can ask Mr. Broderick
the question you want to ask,
and to the extent he knows the answer,
we'll hear what he has to say.
- Can you explain why the value of your practice
the cases, the hardware, the computers, the cars,
the pension, everything, comes out to less in value
than what you earn in a single year?
- Objection. - Sustained.
Argumentative.
- Jeez. Really?
The night you left our house, what did you say to me?
- What did I - February 28, 1985,
you said you were leaving because
you needed time to think about your life.
- I said - What about your life,
you couldn't say, but is it not true that that
- I said I am leaving you,
that we can't live together anymore,
that it's been too bad for too long between us.
It doesn't work. I have to go.
- At any point did you use the word
"separation" or "divorce?" - No.
Because I hadn't decided to do that yet.
I don't know when I first concluded
that you have emotional problems,
but it was a long time ago.
I understand your anger. I understand your hatred.
- Yeah, you understand,
yet you drag me through the legal system for years.
- And now here we are.
After everything I've given you,
after everything you have,
I don't think you have a legitimate basis for complaint.
But I also don't think there's any amount of money
that's going to be enough for you.
- You want to destroy me, over and done with,
and unless and until that happens,
you're not going to be happy.
- Did the end of our marriage
have anything to do with Linda Kolkena?
- Linda Kolkena had nothing to do
with the end of that marriage.
- I have nothing else. Thank you.
- Your Honor, Mrs. Broderick has asked for
$25,000 a month for ten years,
a million dollar tax repayment, custody of the minor children,
and reimbursement of attorney fees.
Now, I would ask Your Honor to recognize
that Mrs. Broderick knows no spending limits
and that her expenses are emotional blackmail.
Now, Daniel Broderick has risen to wealth
through hard work and God-given talent,
and he is being more generous than most would be in conceding
that his wife might need $9,000 a month for a year
and $5,000 a month for two years after that,
and though the children's obvious affection
for their mother must warrant some visitation,
custody should go to Mr. Broderick.
It is for Mrs. Broderick's own good to limit her settlement.
If Your Honor makes an artificially high award,
you really cripple her, and in fact, it'll provide
a lack of incentive to contribute to herself
when she is clearly a woman of formidable abilities.
Only consider her performance in this trial.
Thank you.
- Mr. Broderick was low enough to put to this court
that our divorce started the day we were married.
So I will argue that, too, I guess.
I wanted a husband and a family.
Dan needed a wife that could wait on him,
have sex with him, have his family,
and run his home while he worked all the time.
We were equal partners until we got wealthy
when Dan then considered his earnings his sole property.
I think I've been very generous in letting Mr. Broderick
calculate the value of everything.
We have so much money,
more than enough to keep him and his new family happy
and the family we have happy too.
If I get the children, I don't want them
to have to give up their schools, music lessons,
trips, things that are important to them
that we made important to them, but at this stage of life,
I can hardly hope to match Dan Broderick's earning power.
I hope I can get any job.
Everyone wants a kitten. No one wants a cat.
So I hope Your Honor will remember
that Mr. Broderick's God-given talents
have been showcased by his medical and law degrees,
which over many years of sacrifice in my youth,
I helped to pay for.
Me, not God.
- The court will be recessed until the 30th
when I will render my decision.
Thank you, everyone.
- This is Sid. - This isn't an interview.
It just talks about our hearing being closed.
What happened to everything we talked about?
- I asked Dan for his rebuttal.
He asked to sit down with me.
- Well
okay, so then where is it?
There's hardly even any quotes in here.
- Well, because after we were done,
he threatened to sue me for invasion of privacy.
- Well...
Why did he even want to sit down with you at all then?
- I think he thought he could convince me
none of any of it was worth my time.
- "It's never going to be over for me.
"I know that.
It's not going to end until one of us is gone."
He let you quote him on that I guess,
whatever it's supposed to mean.
- Well, I actually asked him what it meant, and he said,
"Because she'll probably be asking for support for life.
But also because you you can't let go."
- Maybe I'm crazy,
but I can finally imagine it after so long,
having support from a court I can rely on,
him not being able to fine me anymore,
my kids,
a nice job,
a life of my own.
- Job? What job is this?
- Hmm. I saw an ad.
The preschool Liz Beale's little girls went to,
a teaching assistant.
- And you applied for it?
- No, I start the 12th.
- And and it's a done deal? You're in?
I I'm glad. That's so great.
- Why is it "so great?"
- I just want to say that I never believed it
for a minute, never.
I have been more worried
that you would hear about it somewhere,
and now you're suddenly talking about this preschool job,
and that it would come out - Marie.
- At the drycleaners, I saw Peter,
my lawyer from my divorce,
and we were just talking about all of it.
- Mm-hmm.
- And he did say...
He heard that your courtroom was sealed
because you're a child molester.
- You've attacked and destroyed me,
my home, my possessions, and my family,
and you continue to repeatedly attack, steal, and destroy.
You are the sickest person alive.
No one will mourn you.
That's how long it's been since you've been here.
No one even remembers
that I smashed my car into his door.
Obviously, I'd pay for your airfare.
- That's not necessary, Betty Anne.
- Just to have you here?
Just to show the judge that I'm not this
alone person,
that I'm part of a family that cares?
That would just be so
- Look, your father and I don't wanna be a part of this,
whether you win or you don't.
- To begin with the division of the marital assets,
the court accepts the appraisal of the law firm
owned by Mr. Broderick and confirms its value
at the date of separation.
After reviewing the Epstein credits,
legal costs, and cash advances, I find that Mrs. Broderick
owes Mr. Broderick a total of $787,063.
Taking that deduction into account,
I award her a lump sum payment
of $28,606.02.
As to custody,
I find that Mr. Broderick will retain sole custody.
Mrs. Broderick is awarded formal visitation rights
on alternating holidays and weekends.
And finally as to spousal support,
I keep the figure at $16,000 monthly,
contingent on remarriage or death of either party
or further order of the court.
- "Further order of the court,"
meaning until the next time
Dan Broderick feels like appealing it.
Till the next time I annoy him,
and he brings down the axe again.
What man wouldn't be angry at being treated like this?
But women aren't allowed to get angry,
because the men write the rules.
- Will you hit Walt please? I can't reach him.
- I would rather hit you than Walt.
- Okay, you ladies take care of Chrissie
when she gets back, all right?
- Dessert wines all around! - I'll have a...
- Must be nice now that it's all over with.
- Oh, it's not nice exactly,
but it is over.
- Can I, um
can I ask,
could you have come across Betty's china
ever at some point?
It's Pickard. It's white and ivory
Encrusted with a gold band.
- So you have.
Okay. - Yeah.
- Betty is so focused on it,
really wanting it back.
I feel like if you did that,
it could be a little olive branch.
- Well, you know her so well,
and I don't really.
And what I do know, I don't like,
so I'm not doing an olive branch.
- I know Betty's been awful to you,
but if you give the china back,
at least then you'd never have to think about it ever again.
- Or I could break it.
Maybe I will.
That's what she would do.
- If you're thinking about carrying it,
that's another reason for this model.
Pick it up if you want. You can.
- I was a marksman back in school.
- Ammunition, these .38 rounds will all work.
Uh, just these ones are $5 more a box.
- The men write the rules, and the rules are
you're allowed to defend yourself if you're a man.
You're allowed to defend your home and family
and property if you're a man, but if you're a woman,
you're supposed to go in the corner and cry
and take pills and kill yourself.
- These are for you to fill out, permits and such.
Need a pen?