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[man on speakers]
Introducing the next speaker,
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I do so with a feeling
of personal affection.
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We love him for the enemies he has made.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Fritz Kuhn.
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[crowd cheering and applauding]
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[in English]
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[crowd laughing]
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[crowd booing]
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[yelling]
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[crowd chanting] You will not replace us!
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You will not replace us!
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[shouts]
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Our side was defending themselves
to a large degree.
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I've no doubt about that.
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[man]
Does this day feel like a win to you?
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It does feel like a win
because we demonstrated our resolve.
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[ambulance siren]
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[Daryle]
Everything falls apart from this day.
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[man with Daryle] Yeah.
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Everybody knows them now.
Everybody's seen them now.
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And when they go home
to their families and to their jobs
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and to their professions,
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everybody's going to say,
"Why were you there?"
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You motherfuckers! You dance like this.
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-Fuck you!
-You know, you--
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Fuck you!
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[shouts and crashing]
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[interviewer] Go, go, go, go.
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[tires screeching]
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-[people clamoring]
-[cameraman] We got multiple injuries!
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Possible fatalities.
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[man yelling] Why?
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[Richard] Little mayor Singer... Signer...
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How do you pronounce
this little creep's name?
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[man] Jew. Jew!
That's how you pronounce it.
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[laughs]
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[Richard]
The idea that I would ever back down
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to such a little creep like Mayor Signer.
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We are never backing down.
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Now it's not gonna be over.
It's not going to be. Never.
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[people cheering]
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The problem that everybody has,
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I don't care
if you're on the left or on the right,
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truth is going to do what truth does.
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Lies have consequences
and you will not escape those.
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You know the old saying, "Evil flourishes
when good people do nothing."
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Regardless of whether or not
a person has the right
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to say whatever they want to say,
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the fact of the matter is when
they make it clear that they're fascists,
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you're supposed to do something about it
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to make sure
that those particular rights are intact.
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Otherwise, you're doing nothing more
than copping out
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because you're too cowardly
to put up a fight.
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[Richard]
Daryle the Barrel, as he's known,
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he weighs at least 400 pounds.
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He's this anti-fascist activist
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who's done all sorts of research
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and has dedicated his life
to hating people, you know, basically.
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[Daryle] I don't have kids of my own.
I have nieces and nephews.
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I hope that they are
able to learn something
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from what it is that I do.
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I'm not begrudging Antifa
of trying to remain anonymous
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and to remain inconspicuous
in the work they do,
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but I can't do that
and that's one of the reasons why.
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My family needs to know
and the people around me
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need to know that this is what I am,
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this is what I do
and I'm damn proud of it.
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And I want you to learn something
from all of that.
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Have you ever met Antifa
or interviewed them?
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What are they like?
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In defense of Daryle,
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he's not a strung-out,
you know, gutter punk.
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Yeah. I don't think he's on drugs.
He's just on donuts.
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[Richard laughs]
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[Richard] The idea that we just
randomly have different skin color,
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but we're all the same,
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it's just absolutely ridiculous.
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Hail Trump. Hail our people. Hail victory.
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[people cheering]
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[Richard] Race matters,
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race has mattered for every single person
in world history
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except silly white liberals
and white conservatives post 1960.
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The idea that we're the strange ones
is risible.
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[Daryle] There's a gentleman
by the name of Richard Spencer,
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little rich kid, never had a real job
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except maybe being a tutor
to some high school kids
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in a school somewhere.
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He's basically known
as a right-wing propagandist
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and he's always had these hate politics
coming along with him.
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Our identity is going to be forged through
this great crisis that we're experiencing.
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We're experiencing the implications
of mass immigration and multiculturalism
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and multiracialism.
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We're going to come out of it
as a new people.
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[Daryle] If you're going to be about
neo-fascist ideas,
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neo-fascist principles,
goodbye, you're gone.
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When I was in the military,
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I took an oath to defend against
all enemies, foreign and domestic.
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You become a domestic enemy
when you do shit like that.
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[Gavin] So, what is this thing
you guys are doing?
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[male interviewer] So, it's an
independent documentary
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on alternative right ideology, thought.
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And you're actually the first...
You're the first person we're filming with
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and this is literally the first day.
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-OK.
-OK?
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[blowing]
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The alt-right is an abbreviation
of "alternative right."
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The phrase was coined in 2008
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by a very alt-right guy
named Richard Spencer.
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He hooked up with a guy
named Paul Gottfried
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who is a college professor
of some small college somewhere
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who once gave a speech
saying that we need an alternative right.
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Spencer turned that term,
"alternative right,"
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into the name of his new blog
that he started writing.
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And to give you an idea
of how bad that blog was,
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they once had an article
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suggesting that maybe
we should start trying black genocide,
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killing off all black people.
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The idea basically
of the alternative right in the U.S.
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is that the baby boomers sold them out,
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have created
a completely untenable situation
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by encouraging non-white immigration,
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interracial relationships and so on.
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In many ways, the alternative right
is just really a branding,
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a rebranding of white supremacy
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for public relations purposes.
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[Gavin] There's the alt-right.
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They all get put under
this umbrella of alt-right.
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And then there's a sliver here
of total and utter nuts.
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You have the alt-lite that is totally fine
with gays and wants legalization of drugs
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and is basically libertarian politically.
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So, Milo Yiannopoulos.
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You've got me, you've got Ann Coulter.
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Now the alt-right,
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you have a lot more conservative values,
a lot more pro-white sentiment
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that says, like Richard Spencer said,
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very intelligent guy, I love debating him,
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but he said to me, "There's no future
for non-whites in America."
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America was, until this past generation,
a white country
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designed for ourselves and our posterity.
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[crowd cheering]
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[Daryle] That little stuff made
Richard Spencer well-known
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in the mainstream as a white supremacist
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because, when people started sieg-heiling
and he started screaming "Hail victory,"
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which, by the way,
is the English translation of "Sieg Heil,"
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that particular conference
and that particular stunt
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threw it all through the doors wide open
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as to what the so-called alt-right
truly was.
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But we already knew who they were.
It wasn't really a secret.
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The truth is that we are
being ethnically cleansed
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in our own nation,
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in the nation our own forefathers built.
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This is what I know from this meeting,
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I'd like for you to repeat it
if you believe it.
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The goyim know!
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-[people] The goyim know!
-Yeah!
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Hey, everyone, listen up!
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Listen up! Everyone, everyone, listen up!
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You need to get together, turn around
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and move towards your vehicles,
get in them and move now!
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We have violent Antifa
on the way right now!
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We are going to be aggressive,
we are gonna be confrontational
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and our way of doing that is basically
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just exposing the hate mongers
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in ways that
they don't want to be exposed.
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-Get out of my face!
-What's wrong, man?
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Get out of my face! Get out of my face!
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-You did!
-[woman] We'd love to have--
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[Daryle] You know how racist they are!
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You know how hateful they are!
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-No pictures.
-[Daryle] Too late. And don't touch that.
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Don't start anything like that.
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Don't start anything with me, boy.
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-[Daryle] Boy? Boy?
-[woman] Who is that?
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[Daryle] My organization
is called One People's Project.
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And what we do
is that we report and research
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and provide information
about neo-Nazi groups
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and other assorted hate groups
around the country.
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One of the biggest fears
is that they will be revealed,
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they will be doxxed,
they will be found out
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and people would know who they are
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because that means they'll lose their job,
they'll lose their standing in society.
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That crowd is more afraid of us
than we are of them.
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[interviewer]
What happens if you are doxxed?
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I'm probably fucked.
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[Rachel] Daryle Lamont Jenkins
has made it a personal crusade
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to monitor and expose
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and, honestly, to annoy white supremacists
all over the country.
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-You take a lot of pleasure in your work.
-Oh, yes, indeed.
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[Richard] He's pretty gross-looking,
to be honest.
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I personally like to be around
people who are good-looking.
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[Daryle] You knew I was coming.
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I didn't know you were coming.
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I thought you might be dead by now--
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-No, no, no. That was your dream.
-Because of your obesity.
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[Daryle] Yeah. Unfortunate--
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If you're whittled down to fat jokes,
baby, then you're just done.
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[Daryle] First time
I heard of Dick Spencer was in 2011.
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I mean, I sat in on the press conference
that they was having.
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I asked a question. We were all good.
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It deteriorated from there
because he's still a Nazi.
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And I had to treat him like one.
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What do you think is gonna
happen to the alt-right?
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I already know what's going to happen.
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-We've been here before.
-Are we going to fall?
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-Oh, really?
-Yes, you are gonna--
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It's going to be like '45?
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[Jared] Daryle Lamont Jenkins
is a black activist
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whose job it is
to try to silence people like me.
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People littered my neighborhood
with my name and address
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and said, you know, in effect
to go punch this guy out
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because of what he thinks.
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That kind of behavior
can get a pass in our society today
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because the zeitgeist
is still in their favor.
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For the country to tolerate that,
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to me, is a sign
of just how corrupt we've become.
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[Mark] The idea that there's a substantial
radical left in the U.S.
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is ridiculous.
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The claim that there are somehow
some sort of equivalency
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that, you know,
you've got this large radical right
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and then equally large and equally scary
radical left is simply not true.
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And I'm not denying historical realities.
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Look, I mean in the 1960s, early '70s,
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there was a whole lot of left-wing
real-life terrorism.
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But that's simply not true anymore.
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[Lacy] Some members of the alt-right,
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their literature says that
women should be feminine and polite.
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Those are their two adjectives,
feminine and polite.
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Guess what, I'm not going to
go back into the kitchen,
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I'm not going to be barefoot and pregnant,
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I am not going to let them
rollback my rights. I'm not going back.
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And I will fight them
with my last breath.
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[TV KWA] I think there are
a lot of young people
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who, through whatever circumstances
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came to be really disillusioned with
the social environment they grew up in
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and see this
as some kind of reactionary response
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that kind of appeals to them.
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[Richard] With a lot of these young kids,
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they haven't read the book,
they've watched a YouTube video
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that's given it all to them. And I'm not--
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I don't say that to dismiss them
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because it's almost like
some of us were smoking,
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you know, weed for years
and tried a little cocaine
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and some of these young kids just
like injected heroin into their eyeball.
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But they've come to these ideas
much more quickly
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and in a much more intense fashion.
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[TV KWA] I was attracted to
a lot of the arguments they were making,
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as far as advocating for white people,
advocating for your own self-interest
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when everybody else
is doing the same thing,
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it's kind of sink or swim scenario.
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[Simran] I don't think
that the alt-right would exist
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in the way that it does today
without a medium like the Internet.
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People can do it anonymously
and without consequence
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and then actually be,
"rewarded for doing so."
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You know, it's an incentivized system
that just creates more and more hate.
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[Daryle] There's a lot of hate
that's out there in today's society.
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People who have just been involved
in this kind of hate politics,
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they're just getting beaten down
at every single turn,
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and along comes a guy like Donald Trump
who gives them a little bit of juice.
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The forgotten men and women of our country
will be forgotten no longer.
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[crowd cheering]
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So much unrealized potential.
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This American carnage stops right here
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and stops right now.
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[crowd cheering]
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[Jared] Donald Trump
did appeal to a certain incipient
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racial consciousness
among the electorate.
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A certain number of people,
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an unknown number of people voted for him
because he wanted to build a wall,
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he wanted to throw out all illegals
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and he wanted to take a very, very
hard look at Muslim immigration.
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Those people are incipiently
racially conscious
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because all of those policies, they will
slow the dispossession of whites,
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they will slow the reduction of whites
to a minority.
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This is an important appeal
to a certain number of Americans.
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I don't know how many.
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My friend Alonzo Bodden
has a very funny quote, he's a comedian.
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He goes,
"Not all Trump supporters are racists,
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but all racists are Trump supporters."
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[man] Right, right, right.
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[Mark] I think it's almost impossible
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to say what the next
three and a half years of Trump
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are going to play out like.
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Assuming that Trump is not impeached
or doesn't wind up in prison,
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you know, I think that
things are going to get worse.
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For these four years,
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white nationalists really feel like
they have their man in the White House
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and that maybe
they will be able to make real progress
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in terms of, uh, cracking down on
non-white immigration, that kind of thing.
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[crowd cheering]
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[Richard] The inauguration
was actually quite civilized.
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There was heavy police presence.
Everyone was well behaved.
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Fuck that! Fuck--
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There was a--
An Australian broadcast company came over.
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So there was a big circle around.
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And I was doing my usual stuff.
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So I was engaging in some banter--
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[reporter] Are you like a hipster version
of the neo-Nazi movement?
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What?
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It's a-- It's a kind of a symbol--
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[man 1] Fuck you!
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-[people yelling]
-[man 2] Hey!
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[cameraman] Yo, brother,
let me see your face!
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-Fuck you, man.
-What's your name?
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-Fuck you, man!
-You're a fucking criminal!
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-Get the fuck away from me!
-You're a criminal!
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I can punch Richard Spencer
right in the face.
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[Richard] Just inside of my head,
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so I can't hear out of this ear too well
right now.
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[interviewer] Do you feel safe?
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Um, I ultimately feel safe,
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but I would say this, uh,
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and I almost regret saying this
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because I know
it will give my enemies some joy,
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but I would say that two years ago
I would feel utterly safe
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and I wouldn't--
I felt that I could be anonymous.
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We've entered a new stage
where political violence has returned.
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[interviewer] Do you know who punched him?
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Can you give me any info about it?
Because nobody--
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-I cannot give you any information.
-[interviewer] Nobody knows anything.
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[Mark] What the Antifas,
the anti-fascists, are doing
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by and large is really wrong.
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Uh, it is really a mistake.
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It may feel great
for some guy with a black mask on
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to run up and punch Richard Spencer
on the side of the face,
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but it does not help, uh,
progressive causes in this country.
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In fact, it does just the opposite.
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I think that he doesn't
have any moral authority
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to actually say, "Gee, whiz,
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I shouldn't get a sucker punch
in the face."
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I think Theodore Kaczynski,
the Unabomber, said that.
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[interviewer] What did he say?
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That the only really truly effective thing
in any movement is violence.
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And it's hard to argue that.
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If they want to shut down Antifa,
they should be violent.
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I cannot recommend violence enough.
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It is a really effective way
to solve problems.
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If you really believe
that the white majority in this country
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is under threat in some way,
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any act of violence is just going to
make things worse for white people.
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We don't believe in
absolute non-violence.
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Our understanding is that
one can engage in violence
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when all other means fail.
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My thing has always been,
if you're going to engage in violence,
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basically, it has to be
as a form of defense.
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But, like I said, when you see folks
on the other side taking swipes at us,
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naturally folks are swiping back.
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As far as I'm concerned,
you picked this fight, now fight.
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[Trump] Knock the crap out him, would you?
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Seriously. I promise you
I will pay for the legal fees, I promise.
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[yelling]
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[TV hostess] Developing news.
Anger boiling over.
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Our cameras are rolling
as fights break out
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between anti-Trump protesters
and the President's supporters.
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[yelling]
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[Daryle] Just trying to learn more.
I'm just seeing it for the first time now.
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So, this rally was especially important
for a lot of the Trump supporters
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because this was supposed to be the day
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where they would just show Antifa
what's up.
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Unfortunately,
it looks like Antifa showed them.
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The silent majority does support Trump.
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Because I voted for him and I support him
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and he's doing exactly
what we asked him to do
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and that's exactly why
he's the greatest president.
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-[interviewer] Have you been happy so far?
-Completely happy.
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Every reason for everything
he's doing right now
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is every reason why I voted for him.
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[Daryle] The Trump supporters,
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they keep talking about
how they're fed up
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with the way their society is going
and they want their country back. Uh-uh.
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You fed up?
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You don't know fed up. We know fed up.
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And...
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that's why we're going to win.
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[Mark] The Southern Poverty Law Center
is not a law enforcement organization.
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So, if SPL staffers run across
a real-life criminal plot,
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you know, they don't play games, right?
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They go straight to the FBI
or the local police force, whoever it is.
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Part of this work is that people want to
kill you or at least they say they do.
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So, we've had a lot of threats
over the years.
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You know, I've had to surround
the house with cameras,
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you know, television system
and closed circuit TV system
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that completely encircles our house.
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Certainly, over the years,
we've gotten mail from the Klan here.
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At one point, we had a threat
from the Aryan Brotherhood,
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uh, and my bosses insisted
that we move out of the house for a week.
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You know, at one point,
I was notified last year
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by a letter from a federal court
in New York State
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that a certain guy
had bought a machine gun
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and part of the plan was
to kill me among others.
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[interviewer]
Do you know who Mark Potok is?
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-[Richard] Yeah.
-What are your thoughts on him?
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He's obviously a terrible human being.
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Um, and, you know,
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he clearly wants to shut down free speech.
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And, if given the power
and if given the opportunity,
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I am positive that he would
want to arrest people like me
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for selling distrust in the communities
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or some, you know,
Orwellian phrase like that.
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[Mark] Richard Spencer is a guy,
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sad to say,
that came out of the real academic world,
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he actually got a master's
at University of Chicago,
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who in 2011
took over a small little-known outfit
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called the National Policy Institute
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and turned it into something
more than it had been.
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[Richard] Who are we?
We aren't just white.
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White is a checkbox on the census form.
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We are part of the people's history,
spirit and civilization of Europe.
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[Mark] Spencer was able
to get a fair following
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by presenting himself
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as the kind of well-dressed
suit-and-tie version of the Klan.
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The SPLC is a hate group effectively
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because they spend much of their time
hating people.
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The hate list
is basically a list of people it hates.
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If you're not on that list,
it does mean you're a cock.
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But, definitely, if you're not,
you're not cool.
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[Daryle] Spencer wants the attention.
Spencer adores the attention.
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That's the biggest downfall to any Nazi.
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Because, if he is considered
to be a household name,
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what can you do with that?
How do you grow with that?
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Answer? You don't.
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This is an old Klan hood
that I got from someone.
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Whenever they get out of the WP scene,
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they tend to want to get rid
of all the things that were a part of it.
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H is the eighth letter of the alphabet.
HH, Heil Hitler.
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That same person
also gave me all of his literature.
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These are two bags of that.
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They have comic books, racist comic books.
There's also newsletters.
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I go after a group called
the National Socialist Movement.
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They even have cookbooks. [chuckles]
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And, uh...
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this crap. [laughs]
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But that's it, that's what I got.
That's what I brought here today.
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[Daryle] They want an ethnostate.
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They want a white ethnostate.
They want us to be separated by race.
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And that's what they're pushing for.
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So, if you're ever hearing
about any nonsense
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about being patriotic
coming from this crowd, that's crap.
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The truth of the matter is
that's a fascist state.
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I'm Antifa.
I don't let fascist state grow.
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[interviewer] Tell me about this idea
you have of a white ethnostate...
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Mmm-hmm.
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...within the U.S.
and how you see that working.
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Well...
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I don't think it would take place
within the U.S.
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Um, the ethnostate and, as I conceive it,
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is a post-American possibility.
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And it would happen
after a dramatic paradigm change
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after which America,
U.S. as we know it,
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would lose legitimacy,
would no longer be possible
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and we would have to need something new.
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So, it is a kind of
post-revolutionary idea.
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And it would ultimately be a safe haven
for all whites around the world.
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Whether you're Russian or Irish
or Italian or Norwegian,
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this would be a safe place for you.
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So, it would have a kind of
Zionist component to it.
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It would be like Israel is a safe haven
for world Jewry.
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And that would be the ethnostate.
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There are literally tens and tens and tens
of millions of people who are not white,
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who are not Christian,
and who were born in this country
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and whose parents and grandparents
were born in this country.
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Do you think they're gonna leave because
Richard Spencer would like them to?
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You know, the ideology
is a prescription for mass murder.
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[narrator] The partition in August 1947
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saw the British Indian empire
split in two,
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mostly along religious lines.
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Pakistan was intended
to be the Muslim homeland.
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India, intended for Hindus and Sikhs.
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It was a recipe for trouble.
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[man] Partition triggered one of
the largest migrations in human history.
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Muslims trekked to West
and East Pakistan, later Bangladesh.
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Millions of Hindus went the other way.
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A hastily drawn border cut families, farms
and communities in two.
475
00:28:17,445 --> 00:28:20,615
Between one and two million people
died in the process.
476
00:28:21,199 --> 00:28:24,661
It would be just a total renewal
of whites as a people.
477
00:28:24,744 --> 00:28:26,788
We'd no longer be these just,
478
00:28:27,372 --> 00:28:31,960
you know, silly fat goofballs and dockers
479
00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:34,087
going off to our graves.
480
00:28:34,754 --> 00:28:37,841
[interviewer] Now, would gays
be allowed in this society?
481
00:28:37,924 --> 00:28:40,510
Yes. Uh, yeah.
482
00:28:40,593 --> 00:28:42,762
I mean, it would be for whites, and...
483
00:28:42,846 --> 00:28:46,099
Look, I don't know
the origins of homosexuality.
484
00:28:46,182 --> 00:28:48,810
I think there might be
a genetic component.
485
00:28:48,893 --> 00:28:53,648
I've read literature on a physical,
but non-genetic component,
486
00:28:53,732 --> 00:28:57,235
uh, that it's something
that occurs in the womb actually.
487
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,531
Um, there's also been--
There's a germ theory and so on.
488
00:29:01,614 --> 00:29:05,285
There is gonna be a portion
of the population that's going to be gay.
489
00:29:06,703 --> 00:29:09,831
And I think we should just live with that
and it's OK.
490
00:29:09,914 --> 00:29:15,044
We don't want to focus our energies
on converting homosexuals.
491
00:29:19,132 --> 00:29:24,053
I wasn't here a few days
before I was getting harassing letters
492
00:29:24,137 --> 00:29:28,683
and bad looks or people
knocking on my door or things like that.
493
00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:31,603
I mean it gets a bit annoying,
to be honest.
494
00:29:31,686 --> 00:29:34,647
And it is kind of funny
that I provoke them so much.
495
00:29:38,485 --> 00:29:39,819
OK.
496
00:29:40,779 --> 00:29:44,449
I've answered this question, "Are you
a white supremacist?" so many times
497
00:29:44,532 --> 00:29:49,078
that I'm kind of sick of it
and I'm tempted to almost say, "Yes."
498
00:29:50,413 --> 00:29:54,167
I'm Satan to them, but, you know,
people are ultimately fascinated by Satan.
499
00:29:55,627 --> 00:29:58,463
I'm not sure anyone is able to read that
except me.
500
00:29:59,005 --> 00:30:01,007
Maybe that's a good thing. [chuckles]
501
00:30:05,178 --> 00:30:06,554
There is no doubt
502
00:30:06,638 --> 00:30:11,100
that the alt-right has been attractive
to angst-ridden young men.
503
00:30:11,476 --> 00:30:12,977
And I think that's interesting
504
00:30:13,061 --> 00:30:18,942
because it's ultimately frustrated and
ambitious young men who change the world.
505
00:30:19,150 --> 00:30:21,027
I'm going to fix a bourbon.
506
00:30:21,653 --> 00:30:23,905
I don't want my reputation to suffer.
507
00:30:23,988 --> 00:30:25,615
OK, let's do it.
508
00:30:25,698 --> 00:30:31,704
America is going to have to fragment
for this new ideology to emerge.
509
00:30:32,205 --> 00:30:33,498
And that's what's happening.
510
00:30:34,999 --> 00:30:38,253
All right,
so this is a "I'm pissed off" video, so...
511
00:30:38,336 --> 00:30:39,712
[grunting]
512
00:30:40,171 --> 00:30:43,007
Go Alex Jones, just take my shirt off.
513
00:30:45,593 --> 00:30:51,474
All right. Well, I sometimes wonder
if I am living in a time warp
514
00:30:51,558 --> 00:30:55,103
and whether we're just
repeating past mistakes,
515
00:30:55,186 --> 00:30:56,896
having learned nothing.
516
00:30:56,980 --> 00:30:59,607
[interviewer] Are they a fad
like some people have posed
517
00:30:59,691 --> 00:31:00,942
or are they a real threat?
518
00:31:01,025 --> 00:31:03,152
I don't think
that there's any question at all
519
00:31:03,236 --> 00:31:08,992
that we are seeing a real rise
of this kind of ethnoracial nationalism
520
00:31:09,075 --> 00:31:10,326
in the U.S.,
521
00:31:10,410 --> 00:31:12,912
and in fact, in much
of the Western world in general.
522
00:31:12,996 --> 00:31:17,375
You know, I think this is
a massive historical kind of trend
523
00:31:17,458 --> 00:31:20,253
and it's going to get worse
before it gets better.
524
00:31:20,336 --> 00:31:22,338
[interviewer]
Should we even talk about the alt-right
525
00:31:22,422 --> 00:31:24,257
or would that be giving them a platform?
526
00:31:25,675 --> 00:31:29,095
There's a kind of struggle
that I would characterize
527
00:31:29,178 --> 00:31:33,725
as the kind of policy of quarantine
versus the policy of inoculation.
528
00:31:33,808 --> 00:31:35,476
Back in the 1950s,
529
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,730
when groups like the American Nazi Party
were beginning to pop up,
530
00:31:38,813 --> 00:31:42,650
a number of Jewish agencies
and other groups got together
531
00:31:42,734 --> 00:31:47,530
and approached newspaper publishers,
people who ran television stations
532
00:31:47,614 --> 00:31:49,407
and said, "Look, don't cover
the American Nazi Party.
533
00:31:49,490 --> 00:31:50,533
If you give attention to them,
534
00:31:50,617 --> 00:31:53,703
it will just help them build up
and get more members and so on."
535
00:31:53,786 --> 00:31:58,124
Well, it was somewhat useful for a while,
that policy, quarantine.
536
00:31:58,207 --> 00:32:00,793
It was actually called
the quarantine policy.
537
00:32:00,877 --> 00:32:05,173
Today, I think obviously that's
totally impossible as a practical matter.
538
00:32:05,256 --> 00:32:09,802
There are so many venues out there
from cable to social media to talk radio,
539
00:32:09,886 --> 00:32:13,348
of course, to all kinds of,
you know, zines and so on
540
00:32:13,431 --> 00:32:17,018
that it is virtually now impossible
to suppress information.
541
00:32:17,101 --> 00:32:18,269
So, what do you do?
542
00:32:18,353 --> 00:32:20,396
You just stand back
and pretend it doesn't exist
543
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,732
or keep your mouth shut
and hope nobody's listening?
544
00:32:22,815 --> 00:32:24,108
I think not. You know?
545
00:32:24,192 --> 00:32:26,110
I think that the answer is
546
00:32:26,194 --> 00:32:31,950
to take on the claims of these groups
and the radical right in general directly.
547
00:32:33,993 --> 00:32:37,330
Hello, I'm Jared Taylor
with American Renaissance.
548
00:32:37,413 --> 00:32:42,543
The mainstream media are now
full of stories explaining the alt-right.
549
00:32:42,627 --> 00:32:47,632
Even a Japanese newspaper interviewed me
the other day about the "alto-righto."
550
00:32:48,675 --> 00:32:53,262
As a long-standing member
of the alt-right, this is how I see it.
551
00:32:53,763 --> 00:32:58,393
We are a broad dissident movement
that includes many different websites,
552
00:32:58,476 --> 00:33:00,561
organizations and viewpoints.
553
00:33:00,645 --> 00:33:06,484
But they all agree on one thing,
equality is a dangerous myth.
554
00:33:10,738 --> 00:33:13,574
[Mark] Jared Taylor has published
for a long time now
555
00:33:13,658 --> 00:33:15,910
a journal called American Renaissance.
556
00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:18,871
And this is fundamentally
a white nationalist journal,
557
00:33:18,955 --> 00:33:24,085
but one which does not engage
in the use of slurs and so on.
558
00:33:24,168 --> 00:33:28,631
This is my latest book, yes.
So, you're welcome to have a copy.
559
00:33:30,258 --> 00:33:33,970
[Daryle]
Jared Taylor is considered now to be
560
00:33:34,053 --> 00:33:36,431
the godfather of the alternative right.
561
00:33:36,514 --> 00:33:42,020
East Asians are, on average, maybe
three or four IQ points above whites.
562
00:33:42,103 --> 00:33:45,148
And these are just differences
we have to deal with.
563
00:33:45,231 --> 00:33:48,359
And to pretend they're not there
is just like pretending that, uh,
564
00:33:48,443 --> 00:33:51,404
I don't know, that males and females
are absolutely identical.
565
00:33:51,487 --> 00:33:52,822
They're just not the same.
566
00:33:52,905 --> 00:33:55,408
Jared Taylor and a number
of other white supremacists
567
00:33:55,491 --> 00:33:57,160
set up this hierarchy,
568
00:33:57,243 --> 00:34:00,329
where he said, "Well, Asians
are even smarter than we white people,
569
00:34:00,413 --> 00:34:02,874
so we can't be racist
because we recognize, boy,
570
00:34:02,957 --> 00:34:05,126
they're really good at math
compared to us.
571
00:34:05,209 --> 00:34:10,465
But, of course, we are vastly smarter
and better people genetically
572
00:34:10,548 --> 00:34:13,593
than black people,
than brown people," and so on.
573
00:34:13,676 --> 00:34:19,015
The idea that you can identify,
you know, entire groups of people
574
00:34:19,515 --> 00:34:21,601
based on their IQ is absurd.
575
00:34:21,684 --> 00:34:25,563
First, how do you divide between
"black people and white people"?
576
00:34:25,646 --> 00:34:28,941
Right?
I mean if you have one black ancestor
577
00:34:29,025 --> 00:34:31,569
and 20,000 white ones,
does that make you black?
578
00:34:31,652 --> 00:34:33,362
What about if it's the reverse?
579
00:34:33,446 --> 00:34:37,575
[Jared] You can study these phenomena
and there are group differences.
580
00:34:37,658 --> 00:34:39,827
But, as Adlai Stevenson liked to say,
581
00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:43,247
"Given a choice between agreeable fantasy
and disagreeable fact,
582
00:34:43,331 --> 00:34:45,708
Americans will go for the fantasy
every time."
583
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:53,424
[Mark] The idea that you could figure out
584
00:34:53,508 --> 00:34:56,135
who was good racial stock
and who was not good racial stock
585
00:34:56,219 --> 00:34:58,596
based on measurements of your skull.
586
00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:01,599
The science was absolutely
not science at all.
587
00:35:01,682 --> 00:35:03,726
It was ridiculous.
None of those things were true.
588
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,898
What's wrong with eugenics?
589
00:35:08,981 --> 00:35:13,778
Which is basically the idea
that we can breed better human beings
590
00:35:13,861 --> 00:35:16,864
by not allowing certain people
to procreate.
591
00:35:16,948 --> 00:35:18,533
Well, Nazi Germany eugenics
592
00:35:18,616 --> 00:35:22,370
ended with the murder
of tens of thousands of children
593
00:35:22,453 --> 00:35:24,580
who were mentally ill
or mentally retarded
594
00:35:24,664 --> 00:35:26,916
or had some physical handicap.
595
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,174
It is this idea that
there are better people and worse people
596
00:35:35,258 --> 00:35:37,552
and that is determined by genes.
597
00:35:37,635 --> 00:35:41,305
So, if only we can stop the people
with worse genes
598
00:35:41,389 --> 00:35:42,682
and, of course, once upon a time,
599
00:35:42,765 --> 00:35:46,978
that included black people, gay people,
brown people, yellow people, and so on,
600
00:35:47,061 --> 00:35:49,313
then we will make a better world.
601
00:35:52,358 --> 00:35:54,569
[male narrator]
War is not a pretty thing at best,
602
00:35:54,652 --> 00:35:57,864
but no words can express
the world's disgust
603
00:35:57,947 --> 00:36:00,616
at Germany's organized carnage.
604
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:01,909
Behind its high walls,
605
00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:05,413
their victims, Poles, Greeks,
Russians, any non-Germans,
606
00:36:05,496 --> 00:36:07,582
were systematically slaughtered.
607
00:36:07,665 --> 00:36:10,543
[Mark] It's worth pointing out
that the eugenics movement
608
00:36:10,626 --> 00:36:14,255
was in many ways born in the U.S.
609
00:36:14,338 --> 00:36:18,176
The sad fact is
that Adolf Hitler and the Nazis
610
00:36:18,259 --> 00:36:20,303
looked to the U.S.
611
00:36:20,386 --> 00:36:22,471
when they were getting interested
in eugenics,
612
00:36:22,555 --> 00:36:25,349
when they were getting interested
in race laws,
613
00:36:25,433 --> 00:36:28,227
when they were getting interested in laws
against miscegenation,
614
00:36:28,311 --> 00:36:29,770
so-called race mixing.
615
00:36:29,854 --> 00:36:33,399
Ultimately, the U.S.
turned against this idea.
616
00:36:33,482 --> 00:36:35,985
Eugenics and the ideas behind eugenics
617
00:36:36,068 --> 00:36:39,864
have been absolutely
and utterly discredited
618
00:36:39,947 --> 00:36:42,158
uh, by virtually all scientists,
619
00:36:42,241 --> 00:36:47,330
absent an incredibly tiny fringe of people
on the extreme right.
620
00:36:48,456 --> 00:36:51,751
Now that I am considered, oh...
621
00:36:54,378 --> 00:36:56,380
a dangerous figure, I suppose,
622
00:36:56,464 --> 00:36:59,675
it's difficult to persuade
mainstream publishers to publish my books.
623
00:36:59,759 --> 00:37:01,969
I used to get the mainstream to do this.
624
00:37:02,053 --> 00:37:06,807
White people, certainly white southerners,
are the only group in this country
625
00:37:06,891 --> 00:37:09,602
who are not allowed to take pride
in who they are.
626
00:37:09,685 --> 00:37:14,607
You can be black, Hispanic,
Asian, Indian, African, anything at all,
627
00:37:14,690 --> 00:37:17,526
you can be proud of who you are.
Not white people.
628
00:37:17,610 --> 00:37:19,862
[singing]
629
00:37:27,411 --> 00:37:31,832
So, this is back when I was still
respectable writing about Japan.
630
00:37:31,916 --> 00:37:35,002
[Mark] He's written a number of books,
speaks fluent Japanese,
631
00:37:35,086 --> 00:37:37,088
is a world traveler,
632
00:37:37,171 --> 00:37:40,508
plays an instrument in
a classical chamber orchestra and so on,
633
00:37:40,591 --> 00:37:44,220
but he is also the guy
who, for the last 20 years,
634
00:37:44,303 --> 00:37:49,267
arguably has done more than any other
to mainstream white nationalism.
635
00:37:49,350 --> 00:37:51,644
[interviewer]
So, they consider you a hatemonger.
636
00:37:51,727 --> 00:37:54,647
Hmm, yes, I'm a hater.
They can look into my soul.
637
00:37:54,730 --> 00:37:56,399
They know what motivates me.
638
00:37:56,482 --> 00:37:58,985
Don't even talk to him because we know.
639
00:37:59,068 --> 00:38:03,864
And they say, "Because we know,
we have designated him a hate group."
640
00:38:03,948 --> 00:38:06,867
And so every time the liberal media
talks to someone like me,
641
00:38:06,951 --> 00:38:10,371
they say, "And, by the way,
this objective rating agency,
642
00:38:10,454 --> 00:38:13,874
as if there's sort of a Standard & Poor
of the ideological spectrum,
643
00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:17,503
they have put him on the hate list."
644
00:38:17,586 --> 00:38:19,630
No, this is just absurd.
645
00:38:19,714 --> 00:38:21,966
The goal is not simply being angry.
646
00:38:22,049 --> 00:38:25,469
The goal is to change the minds
of our fellow whites
647
00:38:25,553 --> 00:38:29,348
and create an environment
in which our culture will survive.
648
00:38:44,363 --> 00:38:48,743
[Daryle] Back in January of last year,
I was diagnosed with prostate cancer.
649
00:38:49,368 --> 00:38:51,412
And that hit me for a loop.
650
00:38:52,455 --> 00:38:56,709
It was just a blow because I knew
that my life was about to change.
651
00:38:56,792 --> 00:38:59,462
And life is at that point
652
00:38:59,545 --> 00:39:01,839
where it's going to start
taking things away from you.
653
00:39:04,342 --> 00:39:07,678
Well, I never really looked
at the directions
654
00:39:07,762 --> 00:39:08,971
that I was going in personally,
655
00:39:09,055 --> 00:39:10,306
I was only concerned with the profession,
656
00:39:10,389 --> 00:39:13,976
I was only concerned with
going out there trying to help others
657
00:39:14,060 --> 00:39:16,896
and trying to, um,
make everyone else's life better.
658
00:39:16,979 --> 00:39:18,230
And then, I look back and said,
659
00:39:18,314 --> 00:39:20,691
"Wait, what about mine? What about me?
What do I want?"
660
00:39:21,317 --> 00:39:24,737
And I really only started
asking those questions last year,
661
00:39:24,820 --> 00:39:26,280
when I got the diagnosis.
662
00:39:30,493 --> 00:39:33,204
Last year, 2016,
was a nice a little yin and yang
663
00:39:33,287 --> 00:39:36,665
because I had the cancer on one end,
664
00:39:36,749 --> 00:39:39,126
but I was also working on
the television show on the other.
665
00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:41,379
I was showing up on Rachel Maddow.
666
00:39:41,462 --> 00:39:43,255
I was showing up on Joy Reid.
667
00:39:43,339 --> 00:39:49,053
People on my side started to know me
as opposed to just folks on the right,
668
00:39:49,428 --> 00:39:53,391
because I was notorious on the right
for a good 16 years at this point,
669
00:39:53,474 --> 00:39:57,103
but no one on the left,
no one in the mainstream knew who I was.
670
00:39:57,186 --> 00:39:59,772
When that cancer hit,
I said that has to change.
671
00:39:59,855 --> 00:40:00,981
That has to change
672
00:40:01,065 --> 00:40:05,444
because I'm not gonna just have my legacy
defined by neo-Nazis.
673
00:40:07,530 --> 00:40:10,825
I think I focused a lot more on
the relationships of the people around me.
674
00:40:10,908 --> 00:40:12,451
I'm closer to my family.
675
00:40:12,535 --> 00:40:14,745
It's not like
we haven't been close before,
676
00:40:14,829 --> 00:40:19,708
but I really wanted to, uh, make sure
that they understood.
677
00:40:19,792 --> 00:40:23,003
See, one of the things that my family
678
00:40:23,087 --> 00:40:26,298
was never really a part of was my work.
679
00:40:26,382 --> 00:40:28,759
Two weeks from now,
dinner at stage house and shelter.
680
00:40:28,843 --> 00:40:30,136
I will be there.
681
00:40:30,219 --> 00:40:32,346
-Um, as it is, I hear--
-We need to call your friends.
682
00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:34,098
I hear I'm going to go see Thor.
683
00:40:34,181 --> 00:40:36,851
[Daryle] I was just basically
trying to protect them.
684
00:40:36,934 --> 00:40:41,147
But now is the case of
"You got to know who I am.
685
00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:43,149
You got to know
what I've been doing out there."
686
00:40:44,984 --> 00:40:49,697
My only regret, and it's a big one, is
my father passed on before he understood.
687
00:40:50,072 --> 00:40:51,365
He passed on in 2011.
688
00:40:51,449 --> 00:40:54,827
He never knew really
what I was doing out there.
689
00:40:55,786 --> 00:40:59,498
He was the strongest man in the world
as far as I was concerned.
690
00:40:59,582 --> 00:41:02,084
He taught me how to fight.
691
00:41:02,168 --> 00:41:06,172
He taught me how to teach, how to educate.
692
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,967
He did participate in the sit-ins
693
00:41:10,050 --> 00:41:12,761
while he was a student at Benedict College
in South Carolina.
694
00:41:12,845 --> 00:41:15,890
My father's from Newark, New Jersey.
695
00:41:15,973 --> 00:41:20,478
And aggressive physical contact
from our brothers in Newark, New Jersey,
696
00:41:20,561 --> 00:41:21,562
doesn't go over well.
697
00:41:21,645 --> 00:41:23,981
If you're gonna fight somebody,
you're gonna fight.
698
00:41:24,064 --> 00:41:28,819
He was doing sit-ins, and that
non-violent thing was only to a point.
699
00:41:28,903 --> 00:41:30,696
And they're getting yelled at,
they are screamed at,
700
00:41:30,779 --> 00:41:31,989
they are being called names.
701
00:41:32,072 --> 00:41:35,326
One guy decided he was going to
squeeze mustard on everybody's head
702
00:41:35,409 --> 00:41:37,286
and just went on down the line.
703
00:41:37,369 --> 00:41:39,580
He got to my father,
and learned the hard way
704
00:41:39,663 --> 00:41:44,376
just what it felt like to get thrown
through a plate-glass window behind him.
705
00:41:45,044 --> 00:41:47,171
Father almost got expelled for that one.
706
00:41:47,838 --> 00:41:51,592
But that's about as much activism
that I think my father's done.
707
00:41:51,675 --> 00:41:54,178
I think that was
pretty significant though.
708
00:42:01,977 --> 00:42:05,814
[interviewer] In what way did
your childhood influence your worldview?
709
00:42:06,774 --> 00:42:11,612
[stuttering] We are a product
of--of our upbringing at some level.
710
00:42:11,695 --> 00:42:16,075
That said, I don't think it
really affected me directly.
711
00:42:16,492 --> 00:42:20,913
Um, my parents are not alt-right
in the sense...
712
00:42:20,996 --> 00:42:25,292
Country Club Republican is a term
that probably fits them pretty well,
713
00:42:25,376 --> 00:42:27,753
even though they're not members
of Country Club.
714
00:42:27,836 --> 00:42:30,256
I think a lot of people want to believe
715
00:42:30,339 --> 00:42:34,176
that anyone who thinks race is real
and race is something worth fighting for,
716
00:42:34,260 --> 00:42:35,594
if you believe that,
717
00:42:35,678 --> 00:42:41,308
you must have been inculcated,
indoctrinated when you're a kid and so on.
718
00:42:41,892 --> 00:42:43,894
Probably nothing
could be further from the truth.
719
00:42:44,603 --> 00:42:47,147
My childhood was,
I would say, pretty idyllic.
720
00:42:47,231 --> 00:42:49,692
I mean, it was in the burbs.
721
00:42:49,775 --> 00:42:52,903
If you just looked at my life
from that standpoint,
722
00:42:52,987 --> 00:42:56,115
you'd say,
"Oh, what is Richard going to become?"
723
00:42:56,198 --> 00:42:58,742
You would probably say
he was going to become a banker
724
00:42:58,826 --> 00:43:02,871
or a lawyer, a doctor, an architect
or something like that.
725
00:43:02,955 --> 00:43:08,127
I don't think you would have said,
you know, "Vanguard intellectual,
726
00:43:08,210 --> 00:43:12,673
banned in multiple European countries,
denounced by Hillary Clinton."
727
00:43:12,756 --> 00:43:14,258
I don't think you would say that.
728
00:43:14,341 --> 00:43:16,176
[man]
We're just gonna sit there in the vehicle
729
00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:18,429
and we're going to call Metro
and be, like,
730
00:43:18,512 --> 00:43:22,141
"Hey, these fucking commies
are over here obstructing traffic.
731
00:43:22,224 --> 00:43:25,477
And we're like not anywhere
near protesting or anything
732
00:43:25,561 --> 00:43:27,688
and we're just in the vehicle
and we just want to go home,
733
00:43:27,771 --> 00:43:30,566
come deal with these fucking degenerates."
734
00:43:31,358 --> 00:43:32,651
That's that plan.
735
00:43:34,111 --> 00:43:35,112
[interviewer] Why do we hate?
736
00:43:37,323 --> 00:43:38,824
Well, because, uh...
737
00:43:39,783 --> 00:43:44,204
We want things for ourselves
that other people seem to have.
738
00:43:44,288 --> 00:43:46,123
[man talking indistinctly over bullhorn]
739
00:43:46,206 --> 00:43:48,000
[Mark]
Or, you know, another big piece of it is,
740
00:43:48,083 --> 00:43:51,712
"I feel guilty about a certain way
I am as a person
741
00:43:51,795 --> 00:43:54,506
and I wind up
needing to blame someone else."
742
00:43:54,590 --> 00:43:56,133
Right? To externalize that.
743
00:43:57,301 --> 00:44:00,471
Eric Hoffer is an academic
who wrote a very important book.
744
00:44:00,554 --> 00:44:03,849
The fundamental idea of Hoffer
is that true believer,
745
00:44:03,932 --> 00:44:07,144
the person who becomes a fanatic,
whether on the right or the left,
746
00:44:07,227 --> 00:44:12,024
uh, is the person who feels that
his or her own life is so meaningless
747
00:44:12,107 --> 00:44:13,734
that it has no weight in the universe.
748
00:44:13,817 --> 00:44:16,487
They're embarrassed about themselves,
they feel guilty
749
00:44:16,570 --> 00:44:19,365
about how small and worthless
and meaningless their lives are,
750
00:44:19,448 --> 00:44:22,743
and the only way
they can feel themselves bigger
751
00:44:22,826 --> 00:44:26,705
or to have a place in the world is to
attach themselves sort of fanatically
752
00:44:26,789 --> 00:44:29,083
uh, to a certain kind of extreme idea.
753
00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:33,003
[crowd chanting] Antifascista!
754
00:44:33,087 --> 00:44:36,548
A... Anti... Antifascista!
755
00:44:36,632 --> 00:44:40,302
A... Anti... Antifascista!
756
00:44:40,386 --> 00:44:44,056
A... Anti... Antifascista!
757
00:44:44,139 --> 00:44:47,142
A... Anti... Antifascista!
758
00:44:47,226 --> 00:44:48,977
[yelling]
759
00:44:50,354 --> 00:44:52,147
My name is Milo Yiannopoulos
760
00:44:52,231 --> 00:44:55,275
and I'm the gay technology editor
of Breitbart News.
761
00:44:55,359 --> 00:44:57,820
I was due this evening
to speak at UC Berkeley
762
00:44:57,903 --> 00:44:59,488
about cultural appropriation.
763
00:44:59,571 --> 00:45:00,739
[man 1] Here we go.
764
00:45:01,573 --> 00:45:03,200
Someone has moved in closer.
765
00:45:03,283 --> 00:45:04,743
[man 2] Somebody's taking a selfie.
766
00:45:04,827 --> 00:45:08,372
[Daryle] When Milo Yiannopoulos
was at Berkeley a few weeks ago,
767
00:45:08,455 --> 00:45:10,124
Antifa blew the place up.
768
00:45:10,207 --> 00:45:12,751
[Milo] It turns out
that the progressive left,
769
00:45:12,835 --> 00:45:14,253
the social justice left,
770
00:45:14,336 --> 00:45:17,214
the feminist, Black Lives Matter,
Antifa left, the hard left,
771
00:45:17,297 --> 00:45:20,843
which has become so utterly antithetical
to free speech--
772
00:45:20,926 --> 00:45:24,179
Fuck you! How fucking dare
you call me white supremacist?
773
00:45:24,263 --> 00:45:25,556
[crowd cheering]
774
00:45:25,639 --> 00:45:28,016
[Mark] Most of the activists
of the alternative right
775
00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:31,603
are making a real effort
to kind of invade American campuses
776
00:45:31,687 --> 00:45:33,355
and they've been very successful
777
00:45:33,439 --> 00:45:35,983
at creating a situation where they pose,
778
00:45:36,066 --> 00:45:38,986
they present themselves
as the defenders of free speech.
779
00:45:39,069 --> 00:45:43,991
And it is the evil forces of left-wing,
"cultural Marxism,"
780
00:45:44,074 --> 00:45:46,952
that are attacking them on campus
and other speaking venues
781
00:45:47,035 --> 00:45:48,954
and not allowing them to speak.
782
00:45:49,037 --> 00:45:50,539
[people protesting]
783
00:45:50,622 --> 00:45:52,416
[crowd] We don't want no fascists here!
784
00:45:52,499 --> 00:45:54,460
[Gavin]
When you shut down the conversation,
785
00:45:54,543 --> 00:45:58,589
lies can thrive and make babies
and start entire communities.
786
00:45:58,672 --> 00:46:00,841
-[people clamoring]
-[whistle blowing]
787
00:46:03,051 --> 00:46:05,721
These kids wouldn't stop yelling,
"Whose campus? Our campus."
788
00:46:05,804 --> 00:46:09,391
So I go, "Come up here, talk to me.
Let you say your side."
789
00:46:09,475 --> 00:46:11,602
The closer I got to him,
the more he went, "Uh-uh."
790
00:46:11,685 --> 00:46:13,437
And he'd go, "Whose campus--"
791
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,272
There's no substance to this beef,
792
00:46:15,355 --> 00:46:17,065
it's just beef for beef's sake,
it's fashion.
793
00:46:17,441 --> 00:46:21,778
I mean it's kind of a catch-22
because free speech and all.
794
00:46:21,862 --> 00:46:24,239
The First Amendment is a great thing,
but, you know,
795
00:46:24,323 --> 00:46:30,078
people are inciting genocide
and nationalistic xenophobic tendencies.
796
00:46:30,162 --> 00:46:32,498
I mean, we are going down a rabbit hole.
797
00:46:32,581 --> 00:46:35,000
It sounds a lot like
1930s Germany right now.
798
00:46:36,168 --> 00:46:37,127
[Mark] First Amendment
799
00:46:37,211 --> 00:46:40,172
is an incredibly strong protector
of speech in this country.
800
00:46:40,255 --> 00:46:43,133
Literally, there's no country in the world
801
00:46:43,217 --> 00:46:46,094
that has such strong speech protections
as this country.
802
00:46:46,178 --> 00:46:49,473
So, the truth is that,
under the First Amendment,
803
00:46:49,556 --> 00:46:53,477
uh, a neo-Nazi
could stand in Radio City Music Hall
804
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,648
and tell 20,000 people,
"We need to kill the Jews
805
00:46:57,731 --> 00:46:59,107
and we need to kill them now."
806
00:46:59,191 --> 00:47:04,488
That is considered, by the courts,
to be simply advocacy of a position.
807
00:47:04,571 --> 00:47:06,782
I'm just sitting in a hotel room stunned
808
00:47:06,865 --> 00:47:10,160
that hundreds of people
were throwing rocks
809
00:47:10,244 --> 00:47:12,329
because they're so threatened by the idea
810
00:47:12,412 --> 00:47:15,541
that a conservative speaker might be
persuasive and interesting and funny
811
00:47:15,624 --> 00:47:18,043
and might, you know,
might take some people with him.
812
00:47:18,126 --> 00:47:20,337
Um, they just have to
shut it down at all costs.
813
00:47:20,420 --> 00:47:23,173
America, of all places, now
814
00:47:23,257 --> 00:47:26,927
is a scene of political violence
in response to ideas.
815
00:47:27,010 --> 00:47:28,011
It's very shocking.
816
00:47:35,352 --> 00:47:38,981
[TV KWA] This is my Patreon account.
817
00:47:39,064 --> 00:47:42,192
Like, I work full-time
and go to school at night,
818
00:47:42,276 --> 00:47:44,695
so I don't really have a lot of time
to do this in the first place.
819
00:47:44,778 --> 00:47:47,739
So I figured,
like, it would be interesting
820
00:47:47,823 --> 00:47:49,908
to see if any of the fans
of the stuff that I do
821
00:47:49,992 --> 00:47:54,204
were willing to, like, support that
through monetary donations.
822
00:47:54,288 --> 00:47:59,126
I received some kind of e-mail notice
telling me that my page had been removed.
823
00:47:59,209 --> 00:48:02,379
They said that there's no room on Patreon
for hate speech,
824
00:48:02,462 --> 00:48:06,174
no matter the purpose or
apparent intention of the Patreon page.
825
00:48:06,258 --> 00:48:09,052
This includes actions
that take place on other site.
826
00:48:09,136 --> 00:48:12,097
[interviewer] What do you consider
to be a hate speech?
827
00:48:12,180 --> 00:48:15,475
[TV KWA] I think hate speech
is entirely a social construct
828
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:19,104
to get sucked into that debate,
in the first place, is to lose it.
829
00:48:19,187 --> 00:48:24,484
And I think that that term is weaponized
from its very moment of creation.
830
00:48:24,568 --> 00:48:26,570
[Jared] I think there's no such thing
as hate speech.
831
00:48:26,653 --> 00:48:28,322
How would you define hate speech?
832
00:48:28,405 --> 00:48:31,575
If I got up and said,
"I hate Puerto Ricans"
833
00:48:31,658 --> 00:48:35,746
or "I hate my neighbor,"
I mean, should that be illegal?
834
00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:38,373
Why is it illegal to hate someone?
835
00:48:38,457 --> 00:48:40,500
There is no limits to free speech.
836
00:48:41,126 --> 00:48:44,254
This is something young people
have a lot of trouble understanding.
837
00:48:44,338 --> 00:48:46,715
They go, "Free speech
doesn't include hate speech."
838
00:48:46,798 --> 00:48:48,759
And you go, "What does it include then?
839
00:48:48,842 --> 00:48:50,844
The Rolling Stones
are better than the Beatles?
840
00:48:50,927 --> 00:48:52,346
What is free speech?"
841
00:48:52,429 --> 00:48:54,473
There is no situation in America
842
00:48:54,556 --> 00:48:58,185
where words come out of your mouth
and you belong in prison. None.
843
00:48:58,268 --> 00:49:01,730
Hate speech is protected
under the First Amendment,
844
00:49:01,813 --> 00:49:05,150
but that doesn't mean
it's protected by ethics.
845
00:49:05,233 --> 00:49:08,236
It just simply means
that they don't go to jail for it.
846
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:13,909
But, if what you say does
cause some sort of harm,
847
00:49:13,992 --> 00:49:16,244
people are going to have to respond.
848
00:49:16,328 --> 00:49:19,831
Those who say it's just expression,
849
00:49:19,915 --> 00:49:22,209
it's just speech,
it doesn't actually mean anything,
850
00:49:22,292 --> 00:49:24,086
what we see frequently
851
00:49:24,169 --> 00:49:30,008
is that these ideas become ingrain
within people's consciousness
852
00:49:30,092 --> 00:49:33,345
and then they get translated
into real physical violence.
853
00:49:38,308 --> 00:49:40,477
[Daryle] So, this is in
our possession right now.
854
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,731
It's the Keystone State,
"skinheads, from back in 2003."
855
00:49:45,107 --> 00:49:47,317
But what made this video so significant
856
00:49:47,401 --> 00:49:51,988
is that there's a band on this video
called Youngland.
857
00:49:52,864 --> 00:49:57,661
The guy that's playing bass for Youngland,
his name is Wade Page.
858
00:49:57,744 --> 00:50:00,914
Wade Page, about a decade or so later,
859
00:50:00,997 --> 00:50:03,083
walked into a...
860
00:50:04,126 --> 00:50:07,254
Sikh temple, just aside Green Bay,
861
00:50:07,337 --> 00:50:10,716
I think it's in Oak Park, Wisconsin,
862
00:50:11,341 --> 00:50:17,347
and, um, shot and killed
a number of parishioners at this temple.
863
00:50:18,098 --> 00:50:22,436
It was the largest mass murder
at a place of worship
864
00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:25,731
uh, in about 50 years on American soil.
865
00:50:25,814 --> 00:50:31,153
[Mark] This came in the middle of a lot
of anti-Muslim rhetoric in this country,
866
00:50:31,236 --> 00:50:35,115
coming both from officials
and anti-Muslim hate groups and so on.
867
00:50:35,198 --> 00:50:37,242
And Page probably felt
868
00:50:37,325 --> 00:50:40,162
that, somehow, this is something
that people would approve of
869
00:50:40,245 --> 00:50:41,538
or at least some people would approve of.
870
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,167
[Simran] Sikhs are often seen as Muslims.
871
00:50:45,250 --> 00:50:50,130
The way that I've been treated
and even just perceived in this country
872
00:50:50,213 --> 00:50:53,842
has changed for the worse
over the last year.
873
00:50:53,925 --> 00:50:56,845
OK, so, I'm looking at a website
called the Vanguard News Network.
874
00:50:56,928 --> 00:50:58,513
It's one of the most popular ones
875
00:50:58,597 --> 00:51:02,267
and its administrator, Alex Linder,
had written a reaction
876
00:51:02,350 --> 00:51:05,187
that became very widely shared
among white supremacist
877
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:07,689
immediately after the Wisconsin shooting.
878
00:51:08,023 --> 00:51:10,358
He says,
"Take your dead and go back to India
879
00:51:10,442 --> 00:51:13,445
and dump their ashes in the Ganges, Sikhs.
880
00:51:13,528 --> 00:51:16,698
You don't belong here in the country
my ancestors fought to found
881
00:51:16,782 --> 00:51:19,284
and deeded to me and mine,
their posterity.
882
00:51:19,826 --> 00:51:21,244
Even if you come here legally
883
00:51:21,328 --> 00:51:23,288
and even if you haven't done
anything wrong personally,
884
00:51:23,371 --> 00:51:24,372
go home, Sikhs.
885
00:51:24,456 --> 00:51:26,541
Go home to India, where you belong.
886
00:51:26,625 --> 00:51:29,252
This is not your country.
It belongs to white men."
887
00:51:31,087 --> 00:51:36,510
Now, if you have a xenophobic,
misogynistic,
888
00:51:36,593 --> 00:51:39,638
anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim rhetoric,
889
00:51:39,721 --> 00:51:44,476
then you will certainly see rises
in hate incidents
890
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:48,313
because people then feel emboldened,
right? If people are now saying--
891
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,067
If our leaders are saying that
these people are second-class citizens,
892
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:56,196
then Americans will start treating them
like second-class citizens.
893
00:51:56,279 --> 00:51:59,533
A jury wasting little time
to convict Dylann Roof
894
00:51:59,616 --> 00:52:02,494
for the massacre inside
a historic black church in South Carolina.
895
00:52:02,577 --> 00:52:07,082
The self-radicalized white supremacist
stood trial in a federal court
896
00:52:07,165 --> 00:52:09,167
for gunning down nine black parishioners.
897
00:52:09,251 --> 00:52:12,003
Dylann Roof,
the author of the Charleston massacre,
898
00:52:12,087 --> 00:52:13,755
is a classic example
899
00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:17,717
of a guy who came into the movement,
was radicalized
900
00:52:17,801 --> 00:52:19,886
and ultimately committed mass murder
901
00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:24,307
based solely, 100%,
on what he read on the Internet.
902
00:52:24,391 --> 00:52:26,977
Right before he started to kill people,
he said, you know,
903
00:52:27,060 --> 00:52:30,438
"You people are raping our women
and taking over."
904
00:52:30,522 --> 00:52:33,483
Well, you know,
that is the precise narrative
905
00:52:33,567 --> 00:52:37,988
of the Council of Conservative Citizens
and the larger radical right.
906
00:52:38,071 --> 00:52:39,614
So, you know, it's a remarkable case
907
00:52:39,698 --> 00:52:42,784
because Roof really had no interaction
with anybody.
908
00:52:42,868 --> 00:52:44,536
It was just information on the Internet.
909
00:52:44,619 --> 00:52:45,954
And we're seeing more and more of that,
910
00:52:46,037 --> 00:52:50,542
where people are radicalized simply by
what they're reading on the Internet.
911
00:52:51,751 --> 00:52:53,461
[Richard] Some of the things
he claimed to care about
912
00:52:53,545 --> 00:52:55,630
you know, Southern heritage
or something like that,
913
00:52:55,714 --> 00:52:58,174
he was radically counterproductive.
914
00:52:58,258 --> 00:53:00,802
I mean, the Dylann Roof incident
915
00:53:00,886 --> 00:53:06,224
directly led to the removal of
the Confederate flag from public places,
916
00:53:06,308 --> 00:53:09,769
from the Confederate flag
becoming much more taboo.
917
00:53:09,853 --> 00:53:13,982
It's just a very sad case.
And I'm sure it won't be the last.
918
00:53:14,065 --> 00:53:16,443
I mean, I'm sure there will be other cases
919
00:53:16,526 --> 00:53:21,656
of someone like this who latches on
to an alt-right idea,
920
00:53:21,740 --> 00:53:27,245
that might be true in itself,
but then he engages in an appalling act.
921
00:53:27,954 --> 00:53:29,873
[interviewer] Are you concerned about
922
00:53:29,956 --> 00:53:32,918
the idea of domestic terrorists
in the future
923
00:53:33,001 --> 00:53:36,463
being linked to some of your writing,
some of your--
924
00:53:36,546 --> 00:53:38,256
If something like that happens,
925
00:53:38,340 --> 00:53:42,844
I'm just going to get out in front of it
and just be like, "Look, yeah.
926
00:53:43,345 --> 00:53:48,391
This guy mentioned he read a blog of mine
or a blog of someone in the alt-right.
927
00:53:48,475 --> 00:53:51,770
What does that mean?" You know.
I mean, there are people who--
928
00:53:51,853 --> 00:53:53,146
[interviewer] What does it mean?
929
00:53:53,229 --> 00:53:55,190
I think it means something in a sense
930
00:53:55,273 --> 00:53:58,568
that the alt-right
is getting at that fissure, you know.
931
00:53:58,652 --> 00:54:03,490
It's getting at those really taboo issues,
it's getting at that real--
932
00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:08,703
at the most difficult aspects of society.
933
00:54:08,787 --> 00:54:14,751
And so that might attract people
who are ill in some way.
934
00:54:15,293 --> 00:54:20,382
So, it means that, but it doesn't mean
anything other than that.
935
00:54:20,465 --> 00:54:24,052
I mean, it's just not...
It's not relevant.
936
00:54:26,221 --> 00:54:31,309
I feel very strongly that we should not
ban sites and discourse like this.
937
00:54:31,393 --> 00:54:33,770
Right? This is free speech,
there is no imminent threat.
938
00:54:33,853 --> 00:54:36,231
So, it's protected.
I think that's important.
939
00:54:36,314 --> 00:54:39,901
But what I think is also important
is that we need to be aware
940
00:54:39,985 --> 00:54:45,448
of what people like Alex Linder and other
white supremacist leaders are saying
941
00:54:45,532 --> 00:54:49,744
because that has a direct bearing
on how we can respond to them.
942
00:54:49,869 --> 00:54:52,288
If we don't even know
what their arguments are,
943
00:54:52,372 --> 00:54:53,665
how are we going to address them?
944
00:55:01,339 --> 00:55:03,049
[interviewer]
At what point did you decide,
945
00:55:03,133 --> 00:55:06,720
"I'm going to go after these hate groups,
document their activities?"
946
00:55:07,637 --> 00:55:09,055
[Daryle] I'm from the punk scene.
947
00:55:09,139 --> 00:55:12,475
This is really
where my passions really are,
948
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:16,438
music and everything around it,
especially the underground music scene.
949
00:55:16,521 --> 00:55:18,189
This is Boston.
950
00:55:18,273 --> 00:55:19,691
I'm Daryle Lamont Jenkins
951
00:55:19,774 --> 00:55:21,568
and the show you're watching
is Channel X.
952
00:55:21,651 --> 00:55:26,322
[Daryle] Back in 2000, I was doing
a series of public-access TV shows.
953
00:55:26,906 --> 00:55:28,616
We're going to go on
with this first band.
954
00:55:28,700 --> 00:55:31,119
This band I had on
the last Channel X show.
955
00:55:31,202 --> 00:55:33,204
[playing punk music]
956
00:55:34,414 --> 00:55:37,792
[Daryle] I was working on one
that never came to fruition.
957
00:55:37,876 --> 00:55:39,919
I was calling it Damn the Conformist.
958
00:55:40,003 --> 00:55:43,840
And I went out to
an American Renaissance Conference
959
00:55:43,923 --> 00:55:46,885
and I had a crew with me
that went around to this conference.
960
00:55:46,968 --> 00:55:51,389
This was on April 1, 2000, and it was
at the Sheraton in Reston, Virginia.
961
00:55:51,473 --> 00:55:53,433
So, what are you doing here?
Do you hate black people?
962
00:55:53,516 --> 00:55:56,352
[laughing] I hate black people,
all of them. They all suck.
963
00:55:59,022 --> 00:56:00,440
[Daryle] Me and my people just went around
964
00:56:00,523 --> 00:56:02,859
and videotaped everybody
that we saw there.
965
00:56:02,942 --> 00:56:06,905
And I had to pretend I was the right
because I was the only black dude there.
966
00:56:06,988 --> 00:56:10,200
No one really knew
what American Renaissance was at the time
967
00:56:10,283 --> 00:56:12,494
and pretty much
scared the living daylights out of me
968
00:56:12,577 --> 00:56:14,788
when I started realizing
who some of these folks were.
969
00:56:14,871 --> 00:56:16,581
[interviewer in video]
Maybe you could explain
970
00:56:16,664 --> 00:56:19,334
your interest in the American
Renaissance movement for us a little bit.
971
00:56:19,417 --> 00:56:20,543
[man] Sure.
972
00:56:20,627 --> 00:56:23,880
I became interested in right-wing politics
in the early '90s
973
00:56:23,963 --> 00:56:27,050
because I could see
the way multiculturalism was going,
974
00:56:27,133 --> 00:56:30,178
I could see the way immigration
and affirmative action were going.
975
00:56:30,261 --> 00:56:32,263
You know, it just seemed
that none of the parties
976
00:56:32,347 --> 00:56:36,017
were willing to talk about things
in which whites are adversely affected.
977
00:56:36,101 --> 00:56:38,394
But every time a non-white
is adversely affected,
978
00:56:38,478 --> 00:56:39,938
it becomes national news.
979
00:56:40,021 --> 00:56:43,441
It was the first time
I had gotten a chance
980
00:56:43,525 --> 00:56:47,237
to be just basically up-close and personal
with neo-Nazi.
981
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,074
Forced racial integration
leads to disharmony
982
00:56:51,157 --> 00:56:53,118
and I think that's been consistent
all over the world.
983
00:56:53,201 --> 00:56:55,203
[Daryle] And it basically
just got the ball rolling
984
00:56:55,286 --> 00:56:57,539
to what eventually became
One People's Project.
985
00:56:57,622 --> 00:56:58,748
How do you square this
986
00:56:58,832 --> 00:57:02,377
with the fact that America
is essentially a nation of immigrants?
987
00:57:02,460 --> 00:57:04,295
Well, first of all, that's not true.
988
00:57:04,379 --> 00:57:07,715
There's no such thing
as a nation of immigrants.
989
00:57:07,799 --> 00:57:11,469
We were an extension of England,
which is why we have English language,
990
00:57:11,553 --> 00:57:14,639
British political and social institutions.
991
00:57:14,722 --> 00:57:18,309
The media in this country controls
political opinion in this country.
992
00:57:18,393 --> 00:57:21,438
And the majority of people who own
the media in this country are Jewish,
993
00:57:21,521 --> 00:57:22,772
yeah, people like Michael Eisner.
994
00:57:22,856 --> 00:57:24,482
[interviewer] So, would you say
there's a Zionist conspiracy
995
00:57:24,566 --> 00:57:25,900
in American major media?
996
00:57:25,984 --> 00:57:27,235
I hate the word "conspiracy"
997
00:57:27,318 --> 00:57:29,070
because it starts sounding
like you're a crackpot.
998
00:57:29,154 --> 00:57:30,905
We're talking about UFOs now, you know.
999
00:57:30,989 --> 00:57:34,659
But is there a Jewish influence
in the media? I think anybody--
1000
00:57:34,742 --> 00:57:35,994
[interviewer]
An overpowering Jews influence.
1001
00:57:36,077 --> 00:57:37,579
Overpowering Jewish influence
in the media, yes.
1002
00:57:37,662 --> 00:57:40,290
And I think they use it shamelessly
for their own agenda.
1003
00:57:40,373 --> 00:57:44,335
Races will be happier,
more adjusted, and harmonious
1004
00:57:44,419 --> 00:57:47,755
when they're pretty much associated
with their own kind, OK?
1005
00:57:47,839 --> 00:57:48,882
[man] I'll give you an example.
1006
00:57:48,965 --> 00:57:50,967
Whenever David Duke
starts getting popular,
1007
00:57:51,050 --> 00:57:54,637
there is an endless stream
of Holocaust movies all week. Right?
1008
00:57:54,721 --> 00:57:56,473
Then there's an endless stream
of Klan movies.
1009
00:57:56,556 --> 00:57:57,974
And then they have the History Channel
1010
00:57:58,057 --> 00:58:00,602
showing the history of the Klan
over and over again
1011
00:58:00,685 --> 00:58:03,480
even though Mr. Duke was in the Klan
30 years ago.
1012
00:58:03,563 --> 00:58:06,774
No one in his group was ever involved
in any illegal activities.
1013
00:58:06,858 --> 00:58:07,901
He was a young man
1014
00:58:07,984 --> 00:58:10,987
looking to be able to find some way
to stand up for his European heritage.
1015
00:58:11,070 --> 00:58:13,490
At the time,
there was only one group, the Klan.
1016
00:58:14,991 --> 00:58:17,911
I'm heading down to Richmond, Virginia,
1017
00:58:18,495 --> 00:58:21,331
and there's been a call for a blackout
1018
00:58:21,414 --> 00:58:24,918
or a black boycott of a shopping center
1019
00:58:25,001 --> 00:58:28,338
because the county has dared
to recognize Confederate History Month.
1020
00:58:28,421 --> 00:58:32,467
And I say, if it's OK to represent
or recognize Black History Month,
1021
00:58:32,550 --> 00:58:34,552
why not represent and recognize
1022
00:58:34,636 --> 00:58:37,305
the heritage of Virginia
and the heritage of the South?
1023
00:58:37,388 --> 00:58:41,392
I think we're heading towards
a major catastrophe in this country.
1024
00:58:50,193 --> 00:58:52,946
[birds chirping]
1025
00:59:10,797 --> 00:59:14,384
[Daryle] So, normally, I fly down
or I take the bus.
1026
00:59:14,467 --> 00:59:17,845
This is pretty much my fourth time
coming down here for this.
1027
00:59:17,929 --> 00:59:19,430
Hopefully, it'll be the last.
1028
00:59:19,514 --> 00:59:24,060
I don't know if Taylor
wants to do this again in this town,
1029
00:59:24,143 --> 00:59:27,063
especially now,
there's some serious opposition
1030
00:59:27,146 --> 00:59:29,774
that we may be seeing
against this conference.
1031
00:59:29,857 --> 00:59:32,694
I mean, got a lot of media attention
this time around,
1032
00:59:32,777 --> 00:59:34,195
which it never did before.
1033
00:59:34,279 --> 00:59:36,364
It's called the American
Renaissance Conference,
1034
00:59:36,447 --> 00:59:38,491
and, according to
the Southern Poverty Law Center,
1035
00:59:38,575 --> 00:59:41,828
it's an extremist group
that promotes the studies and research
1036
00:59:41,911 --> 00:59:44,706
to show the inferiority of blacks
to whites.
1037
00:59:44,789 --> 00:59:48,835
So the heat's on American Renaissance
this time. The heat's on Jared Taylor.
1038
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,306
[Jared] From 1994 until 2008,
1039
01:00:01,389 --> 01:00:04,892
we had conferences every other year
just in private hotels.
1040
01:00:04,976 --> 01:00:06,894
We really never had much of a problem.
1041
01:00:06,978 --> 01:00:10,773
In 2010,
the hotels that we contracted with,
1042
01:00:10,857 --> 01:00:13,568
and there were four, back to back.
1043
01:00:13,651 --> 01:00:16,821
Every one of them got so much pressure
they canceled on us.
1044
01:00:16,904 --> 01:00:19,365
And so, we weren't able
to have a conference.
1045
01:00:19,449 --> 01:00:23,036
And then, the next year,
we had the same thing happen again.
1046
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:25,496
People threatening
to block their parking lot,
1047
01:00:25,580 --> 01:00:28,333
people coming on the premises
and leafleting their places saying,
1048
01:00:28,416 --> 01:00:31,961
"These people support Nazis,"
all kinds of baloney.
1049
01:00:32,045 --> 01:00:36,215
So, now we meet only
in government-owned facilities.
1050
01:00:36,299 --> 01:00:38,676
It's supposed to be the land of the free
and the home of the brave.
1051
01:00:40,094 --> 01:00:42,138
[Daryle]
This was a government-owned facility,
1052
01:00:42,221 --> 01:00:45,642
a publicly owned facility
that could not shut their doors to them
1053
01:00:45,725 --> 01:00:47,268
once the contracts are signed,
1054
01:00:47,352 --> 01:00:51,939
which means not only
can they not throw them out,
1055
01:00:52,023 --> 01:00:53,816
but they also can't throw anybody
1056
01:00:53,900 --> 01:00:56,152
in the general public out,
and that includes us.
1057
01:00:56,235 --> 01:00:58,905
The state of Tennessee
has a First Amendment obligation.
1058
01:00:58,988 --> 01:01:00,990
If the state of Tennessee
had told us we couldn't meet,
1059
01:01:01,074 --> 01:01:03,493
we'd sue them and they'd lose.
1060
01:01:04,911 --> 01:01:09,040
The fact is that Jared Taylor,
year after year after year,
1061
01:01:09,123 --> 01:01:12,877
while saying that he has nothing personal
against the Jews,
1062
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:17,882
has made his conferences
a welcome home for Nazis.
1063
01:01:25,431 --> 01:01:28,851
[Lacy] As you can see,
we actually slept last night
1064
01:01:28,935 --> 01:01:30,186
in a church.
1065
01:01:30,269 --> 01:01:32,772
Thank goodness for this church
that put us up last night.
1066
01:01:34,107 --> 01:01:36,901
Some people slept in here,
in the sanctuary.
1067
01:01:38,820 --> 01:01:41,322
I saw it on Facebook
that they were protesting
1068
01:01:41,406 --> 01:01:44,117
and they were looking for accommodations
locally.
1069
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:48,246
And I called our priest and said,
"Do you mind? That this would be--
1070
01:01:48,329 --> 01:01:49,914
You know, it's part of our mission,
1071
01:01:49,997 --> 01:01:54,711
from a standpoint of community and love
and acceptance and anti-hate,"
1072
01:01:54,794 --> 01:01:56,921
and so, we opened up the church.
1073
01:01:57,004 --> 01:01:58,423
[interviewer]
Have you done this in the past?
1074
01:01:58,506 --> 01:02:01,801
No. I think it's a reflection
of the political climate,
1075
01:02:01,884 --> 01:02:04,137
where I think
we all have to do what we can.
1076
01:02:06,681 --> 01:02:08,933
[Daryle] If you need other
antifascist voices
1077
01:02:09,016 --> 01:02:11,686
in general, I want to connect y'all,
so he can also speak.
1078
01:02:11,769 --> 01:02:15,606
Public doxxed antifascist,
you know, and anarchist.
1079
01:02:15,690 --> 01:02:18,359
Well, this is all self-made.
1080
01:02:18,443 --> 01:02:23,781
This is-- I basically got handed this and
then I got this thing strapped over here
1081
01:02:23,865 --> 01:02:25,074
just in case, you know.
1082
01:02:25,158 --> 01:02:26,826
I'm not trying to start anything
by any means,
1083
01:02:26,909 --> 01:02:29,620
but there've been many organizers
and many activists
1084
01:02:29,704 --> 01:02:31,873
who've been, uh, attacked.
1085
01:02:35,501 --> 01:02:37,253
[inaudible]
1086
01:02:37,336 --> 01:02:40,381
I saw this black African gentleman,
1087
01:02:40,465 --> 01:02:43,217
I assumed he was on the crew
and he refused to shake my hand.
1088
01:02:43,301 --> 01:02:46,637
And they surprised me that I was actually
going to be talking to this African.
1089
01:02:46,721 --> 01:02:49,807
Look at the average life
of an African-American in the U.S.
1090
01:02:49,891 --> 01:02:52,560
It's far better than any African
living in Africa.
1091
01:02:52,643 --> 01:02:54,145
So, slavery was good for them?
1092
01:02:54,228 --> 01:02:56,689
I-- How can you deny such an obvious fact?
1093
01:02:56,773 --> 01:02:59,609
-It's such a ridiculous notion.
-How is it ridiculous?
1094
01:02:59,692 --> 01:03:02,695
[Richard] We are just outside
of Nashville, Tennessee,
1095
01:03:02,779 --> 01:03:05,281
at the Montgomery Bell State Park.
1096
01:03:05,364 --> 01:03:06,783
I'm a guest to the conference this year,
1097
01:03:06,866 --> 01:03:11,245
although I will be saying a few words
just as an update on what I'm doing.
1098
01:03:11,329 --> 01:03:15,374
But, otherwise, I'm just here
to listen to some talks and mingle.
1099
01:03:28,721 --> 01:03:31,766
[Jared] This is the first time
we actually had to shut down registration
1100
01:03:31,849 --> 01:03:33,893
a month before the conference.
1101
01:03:33,976 --> 01:03:35,394
We have about 300 people here.
1102
01:03:35,478 --> 01:03:37,396
I think it would have been 400 or 450
1103
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:41,359
if we had not bumped up against
the physical constraints of the room.
1104
01:03:41,818 --> 01:03:43,528
I've been curious to know
1105
01:03:43,611 --> 01:03:47,865
how many of you have come to your first
American Renaissance Conference.
1106
01:03:48,616 --> 01:03:49,992
Wow.
1107
01:03:50,076 --> 01:03:52,245
[applause]
1108
01:03:54,622 --> 01:03:57,959
[John] I got a hold of
Richard Spencer's phone number
1109
01:03:58,042 --> 01:04:00,002
and I put it on Facebook.
1110
01:04:00,086 --> 01:04:05,466
And, after that, I got a call from some
Nazi alt-right. There were several.
1111
01:04:05,550 --> 01:04:08,511
It was a conference call
and they called me
1112
01:04:08,594 --> 01:04:13,474
and they started putting me on different
alt-right message forums and boards.
1113
01:04:18,521 --> 01:04:21,065
-[Lacy] That's Hotel Avenue, I think.
-Yeah.
1114
01:04:23,860 --> 01:04:26,696
[Daryle] Yeah, this is it. where are we?
1115
01:04:26,779 --> 01:04:28,239
Oh, that's where we are.
1116
01:04:33,452 --> 01:04:37,373
-Hello, sir. NAACP?
-[Benny] Yeah.
1117
01:04:37,456 --> 01:04:39,500
I'm Daryle Lamont Jenkins.
I'm with One People's Project.
1118
01:04:39,584 --> 01:04:42,211
[Jared] In the last,
I would say two or three years,
1119
01:04:42,295 --> 01:04:44,213
there's been, in historical terms,
1120
01:04:44,297 --> 01:04:48,926
an absolute explosion
of white racial consciousness,
1121
01:04:49,010 --> 01:04:54,056
a rising determination of whites
to defend their own interests.
1122
01:04:54,932 --> 01:04:58,436
We have a chance, a fighting chance.
1123
01:04:58,519 --> 01:05:00,187
Testing, testing.
1124
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:03,816
[over megaphone] Testing.
1125
01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:06,402
We will be protesting
in favor of equality.
1126
01:05:06,485 --> 01:05:07,653
[crowd] Yes!
1127
01:05:07,737 --> 01:05:09,280
In favor of diversity!
1128
01:05:09,363 --> 01:05:10,698
[crowd cheering]
1129
01:05:10,781 --> 01:05:13,618
...the view that all cultures
are equally valid,
1130
01:05:13,701 --> 01:05:15,786
all religions equally true,
1131
01:05:15,870 --> 01:05:19,123
and what is at the heart of this fallacy,
1132
01:05:19,206 --> 01:05:23,461
that all races are interchangeable
and equivalent.
1133
01:05:24,462 --> 01:05:28,799
The other tectonic plate moving
in the opposite direction, that's us,
1134
01:05:29,342 --> 01:05:31,260
we are growing in size.
1135
01:05:31,344 --> 01:05:34,722
And you know what happens
when tectonic plates meet?
1136
01:05:35,514 --> 01:05:36,682
Earthquakes.
1137
01:05:37,558 --> 01:05:39,143
We had a tremor,
1138
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,396
I would call it
a reasonably significant tremor,
1139
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:43,856
in the election of Donald Trump.
1140
01:05:43,940 --> 01:05:46,734
But that is just a sign
of things to come.
1141
01:05:48,611 --> 01:05:50,655
[applause]
1142
01:05:55,826 --> 01:05:58,454
And how did the other side react?
1143
01:05:58,537 --> 01:06:00,373
-Yeah!
-[applause]
1144
01:06:00,456 --> 01:06:01,666
-Yeah!
-[crowd] Yeah!
1145
01:06:01,749 --> 01:06:02,708
Yeah!
1146
01:06:02,792 --> 01:06:04,502
I want to hear a word from y'all!
1147
01:06:04,585 --> 01:06:06,379
-Now!
-[crowd] Now!
1148
01:06:06,462 --> 01:06:07,922
-Now!
-[crowd] Now!
1149
01:06:08,005 --> 01:06:10,508
-Now is the time!
-[crowd] Now is the time!
1150
01:06:10,591 --> 01:06:12,176
-Now is the time!
-[crowd] Now is the time!
1151
01:06:12,259 --> 01:06:13,886
Now is the time to take action!
1152
01:06:13,970 --> 01:06:15,846
[crowd] Now is the time to take action!
1153
01:06:15,930 --> 01:06:18,015
-Oh, no, no, no.
-[laughs]
1154
01:06:18,099 --> 01:06:20,559
I know that was a lot of words,
but I wanna hear that.
1155
01:06:20,643 --> 01:06:23,312
Now is the time...
1156
01:06:23,396 --> 01:06:25,731
[crowd] Now is the time...
1157
01:06:25,815 --> 01:06:28,275
...to take action!
1158
01:06:28,359 --> 01:06:30,778
[crowd] ...to take action!
1159
01:06:30,861 --> 01:06:33,030
[Daryle] Now is the time...
1160
01:06:33,114 --> 01:06:35,282
[crowd] Now is the time...
1161
01:06:35,366 --> 01:06:37,827
-[Daryle] ...for them...
-[crowd] ...for them...
1162
01:06:37,910 --> 01:06:40,162
-...to hear...
-...to hear...
1163
01:06:40,246 --> 01:06:42,373
-...from us!
-...from us!
1164
01:06:42,456 --> 01:06:45,751
-This is not their town!
-This is not their town!
1165
01:06:45,835 --> 01:06:48,796
-This is not their park!
-This is not their park!
1166
01:06:48,879 --> 01:06:52,133
-This is not their state!
-This is not their state!
1167
01:06:52,216 --> 01:06:56,012
-This is not their society!
-This is not their society!
1168
01:06:56,095 --> 01:07:00,182
-This is not their decision!
-This is not their decision!
1169
01:07:00,266 --> 01:07:02,101
Let me hear you all yell it out, y'all.
1170
01:07:02,184 --> 01:07:03,894
[crowd cheering]
1171
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,439
No racist USA!
1172
01:07:06,522 --> 01:07:08,566
No Klan, no hate!
1173
01:07:08,649 --> 01:07:10,693
No racist USA!
1174
01:07:10,776 --> 01:07:12,737
No Klan, no hate!
1175
01:07:12,820 --> 01:07:14,739
No racist USA!
1176
01:07:14,822 --> 01:07:18,659
No Nazis, no KKK, no fascist USA!
1177
01:07:18,743 --> 01:07:22,747
No Nazis, no KKK, no fascist USA!
1178
01:07:22,830 --> 01:07:25,458
No Nazis, no KKK, no fascist USA!
1179
01:07:25,541 --> 01:07:28,878
[Jared] We do expect the demonstrators
to be very close.
1180
01:07:28,961 --> 01:07:34,008
We have been more than urged
by the Tennessee state police here
1181
01:07:34,091 --> 01:07:36,552
who are protecting us, the park police,
1182
01:07:36,635 --> 01:07:39,513
very much discourage
any kind of interaction
1183
01:07:39,597 --> 01:07:40,681
with the demonstrators.
1184
01:07:40,765 --> 01:07:44,435
I know that we all have a curiosity
about these people.
1185
01:07:44,518 --> 01:07:47,104
One might want to just go up
and even just have a sniff.
1186
01:07:47,188 --> 01:07:48,606
-[laughs]
-But...
1187
01:07:50,608 --> 01:07:53,819
Please, control those impulses.
1188
01:07:53,903 --> 01:07:57,406
If there is any kind of fisticuffs
1189
01:07:57,490 --> 01:08:01,702
or even a loud argument,
you know that we will be blamed.
1190
01:08:01,786 --> 01:08:07,458
If we will be blamed, I will be blamed,
and I know where every one of you lives.
1191
01:08:07,541 --> 01:08:08,459
[audience laughing]
1192
01:08:08,542 --> 01:08:10,669
[crowd] KKK has got to go!
1193
01:08:10,753 --> 01:08:14,924
-[Lacy] Hey hey, ho ho.
-[crowd] KKK has got to go!
1194
01:08:15,007 --> 01:08:18,177
-Hey hey, ho ho.
-[crowd] KKK has got to go!
1195
01:08:18,260 --> 01:08:20,596
Yay, everybody,
you all can see the zoo animals.
1196
01:08:21,347 --> 01:08:25,101
[woman]
Hey hey, ho ho, KKK has got to go!
1197
01:08:25,184 --> 01:08:28,646
[man] Nobody cares about that
racist white supremacist shit.
1198
01:08:28,729 --> 01:08:29,939
Nobody gives a fuck.
1199
01:08:30,022 --> 01:08:32,566
I think, in a lot of ways,
1200
01:08:32,650 --> 01:08:35,486
one of the worst things
that happened to our country
1201
01:08:35,569 --> 01:08:37,780
is actually going to be
one of the best things
1202
01:08:37,863 --> 01:08:39,198
that has happened to our country.
1203
01:08:39,281 --> 01:08:40,574
Since that day in November,
1204
01:08:40,658 --> 01:08:45,037
I'd never felt like as if I needed
to just sit on my couch anymore. So, yeah.
1205
01:08:45,121 --> 01:08:46,580
-[Daryle] Yeah, I think there--
-Here we are.
1206
01:08:46,664 --> 01:08:48,791
[Daryle] I remember seeing
a sign just recently
1207
01:08:48,874 --> 01:08:51,544
say that, if Hillary had won,
we'd be in brunch right now.
1208
01:08:51,627 --> 01:08:53,337
-Yes.
-And it's like, no.
1209
01:08:53,420 --> 01:08:55,965
-That's the problem.
-See, that was my problem.
1210
01:08:56,048 --> 01:09:00,010
I was part of the problem.
I was part of the problem.
1211
01:09:00,094 --> 01:09:01,846
-It's absolutely true.
-You're not now.
1212
01:09:01,929 --> 01:09:02,888
No.
1213
01:09:02,972 --> 01:09:05,099
What does the end game look like
for a movement?
1214
01:09:05,182 --> 01:09:07,977
How do we get there
and what does it look like when we win?
1215
01:09:08,060 --> 01:09:11,689
I would be prepared to draw a line
right down the middle of the U.S.
1216
01:09:11,772 --> 01:09:13,274
and say to all non-whites,
1217
01:09:13,357 --> 01:09:15,943
"Hey, you pick which side you want.
Which side do you want?
1218
01:09:16,026 --> 01:09:17,736
We'll just fill in the rest."
1219
01:09:17,820 --> 01:09:22,074
If that's what it takes
to keep us from being ground steadily down
1220
01:09:22,158 --> 01:09:26,787
into the increasingly hated minority
that is our thing if we do nothing,
1221
01:09:26,871 --> 01:09:30,875
I believe that is the aspiration
that we should look for.
1222
01:09:30,958 --> 01:09:32,751
[applause]
1223
01:09:36,589 --> 01:09:38,924
[Richard] Jared and I
have different styles.
1224
01:09:39,008 --> 01:09:42,803
Jared has been more
on the side of race realism
1225
01:09:42,887 --> 01:09:44,889
based in scientific reasoning.
1226
01:09:45,264 --> 01:09:48,767
My view is that we're probably
going to accomplish a lot more
1227
01:09:48,851 --> 01:09:52,771
by thinking magically
and cut right to emotions.
1228
01:09:52,855 --> 01:09:55,941
You know, as the old
Chinese proverb goes,
1229
01:09:56,025 --> 01:09:58,444
"May you live in interesting times."
1230
01:09:58,527 --> 01:09:59,987
We are living in them.
1231
01:10:00,070 --> 01:10:03,532
We are living probably
in a breaking point. And I love it.
1232
01:10:03,782 --> 01:10:05,659
Um, I'm very happy to be alive
1233
01:10:05,743 --> 01:10:09,163
and I'm very happy to wake up every day
and do all this stuff.
1234
01:10:09,246 --> 01:10:14,418
So, on August 12th, in Charlottesville,
there's going to be a really amazing rally
1235
01:10:14,501 --> 01:10:17,838
that was organized by someone
who's here, Jason Kessler.
1236
01:10:17,922 --> 01:10:20,466
And almost all of the alt-right
is going to be there
1237
01:10:20,549 --> 01:10:26,472
and it is going to be hugely dramatic,
probably hugely traumatic for them,
1238
01:10:26,555 --> 01:10:28,349
the liberal people of Charlottesville.
1239
01:10:28,432 --> 01:10:29,892
Let's see where they go next.
1240
01:10:29,975 --> 01:10:31,602
-And wherever they go...
-[woman] Chase them there.
1241
01:10:31,685 --> 01:10:32,895
...we'll chase them there.
1242
01:10:32,978 --> 01:10:34,271
Yup. There we are.
1243
01:10:34,355 --> 01:10:35,856
-That's our mission in life.
-[woman] Well, thank you.
1244
01:10:35,940 --> 01:10:38,025
I lived in Charlottesville
for about five years.
1245
01:10:38,108 --> 01:10:40,569
I went to college there.
I remember the statues quite well.
1246
01:10:40,653 --> 01:10:43,530
It's going to be fun.
They will never forget it.
1247
01:10:43,614 --> 01:10:45,574
[Lacy] You can't run over people
who aren't white!
1248
01:10:45,658 --> 01:10:46,867
-That's not right!
-[honking]
1249
01:10:46,951 --> 01:10:50,037
You can't run us over!
No, that's not happening!
1250
01:10:53,499 --> 01:10:55,292
You're not running anyone over.
1251
01:11:00,047 --> 01:11:01,048
[man] Racists!
1252
01:11:02,007 --> 01:11:03,634
Have a nice drive, fucker!
1253
01:11:05,344 --> 01:11:07,429
Oh-oh, did something bad happen?
1254
01:11:07,513 --> 01:11:09,223
[police sirens]
1255
01:11:10,849 --> 01:11:12,184
-[man] Jim, let's go inside.
-I'm sorry.
1256
01:11:12,268 --> 01:11:14,228
We'd better go check
and see what happened.
1257
01:11:17,690 --> 01:11:19,066
[woman 1] There is only a few.
1258
01:11:19,149 --> 01:11:20,859
There, somebody is fighting.
1259
01:11:22,820 --> 01:11:25,030
[woman 2] He killed our friends!
1260
01:11:25,114 --> 01:11:27,408
[man yelling]
1261
01:11:28,826 --> 01:11:32,246
[woman 2] He killed our friends!
Come on! Come on!
1262
01:11:32,830 --> 01:11:36,083
[woman yelling]
1263
01:11:36,166 --> 01:11:39,795
[Daryle] John ended up
with just a few scrapes and bruises,
1264
01:11:39,878 --> 01:11:45,592
but apparently the guy that attacked him
was a little worse off.
1265
01:11:47,594 --> 01:11:50,472
I guess they ended up
having to airlift him
1266
01:11:50,556 --> 01:11:54,643
to a hospital in Nashville
to further attend to him.
1267
01:11:54,727 --> 01:11:59,356
[man 1] All they'll say right now
is that they are both under arrest.
1268
01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:00,941
But it wasn't his fault though, right?
1269
01:12:01,025 --> 01:12:03,527
-No. He defended himself.
-[man 2] He was defending himself.
1270
01:12:03,610 --> 01:12:06,989
[Jared] I have an unfortunate
announcement to make.
1271
01:12:07,406 --> 01:12:11,160
One of our members has disobeyed me,
1272
01:12:11,827 --> 01:12:15,956
and engaged with the ANTIFA
and has now gone to the hospital.
1273
01:12:18,167 --> 01:12:22,546
It is vitally important
that this sort of thing not happen.
1274
01:12:23,422 --> 01:12:26,008
The best thing we can do is ignore them.
1275
01:12:26,091 --> 01:12:28,927
What they most want,
is to get a rise out of us.
1276
01:12:29,595 --> 01:12:32,681
We're supposed to be
a relatively high IQ race.
1277
01:12:32,765 --> 01:12:33,974
[audience laughs]
1278
01:12:34,058 --> 01:12:36,852
We are supposed to be able to set rules
and follow them.
1279
01:12:36,935 --> 01:12:39,355
I'm very angry that this happened.
1280
01:12:39,521 --> 01:12:41,231
This will reflect on all of us,
1281
01:12:41,315 --> 01:12:43,692
on American Renaissance,
and all of you here.
1282
01:12:44,151 --> 01:12:48,489
And so... I implore you...
Do not imitate this knucklehead.
1283
01:12:49,031 --> 01:12:52,868
He got into a fisticuffs
with one of four or five of their guys,
1284
01:12:52,951 --> 01:12:54,953
ended up taking an involuntary swim.
1285
01:12:55,412 --> 01:12:58,582
And was lead off in handcuffs
and is now in the hospital.
1286
01:12:59,666 --> 01:13:01,919
Don't let this happen again.
1287
01:13:04,505 --> 01:13:07,925
[people cheering and applauding]
1288
01:13:11,387 --> 01:13:13,847
[Daryle]
I'm happy with how things turned out.
1289
01:13:13,931 --> 01:13:15,641
We had a remarkable turnout.
1290
01:13:15,724 --> 01:13:18,185
I want to keep the momentum going.
1291
01:13:18,268 --> 01:13:19,895
I want to make sure
that everybody is aware
1292
01:13:20,020 --> 01:13:22,564
of the kinds of things
that we got to fight out there,
1293
01:13:22,648 --> 01:13:24,149
and actually fight them.
1294
01:13:24,233 --> 01:13:26,402
[interviewer] Will you be returning
to that venue again?
1295
01:13:26,485 --> 01:13:30,155
Sure. Yeah. We have a contract.
We'll be there last weekend of April.
1296
01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:31,573
You've been coming to this--
1297
01:13:31,657 --> 01:13:34,993
[Daryle] A lot of people are scared.
They don't want to be helpless anymore.
1298
01:13:35,077 --> 01:13:37,704
They wanna come out
and don't want things to get worse.
1299
01:13:41,542 --> 01:13:42,876
[Richard] Hi, everyone, this is Richard.
1300
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:48,507
I just got back and I just wanted to
give a quick report on the weekend.
1301
01:13:48,590 --> 01:13:52,761
The conference
was unequivocally a success.
1302
01:13:52,845 --> 01:13:54,721
Clearly something big is happening.
1303
01:13:54,805 --> 01:13:59,643
And it's not just people who are coming,
it is younger people.
1304
01:14:00,269 --> 01:14:03,063
Everyone's getting connected
and getting organized.
1305
01:14:03,147 --> 01:14:04,606
They're meeting people at Amber,
1306
01:14:04,690 --> 01:14:06,650
they're gonna see them again
in Charlottesville.
1307
01:14:06,733 --> 01:14:09,027
They're going to go to a college event.
1308
01:14:09,111 --> 01:14:11,780
It allows us to build upon events.
1309
01:14:11,864 --> 01:14:14,241
Take them down! Take them down!
1310
01:14:14,324 --> 01:14:19,288
[yelling indistinctly]
1311
01:14:24,835 --> 01:14:29,214
[Mark] Most of these were
open celebrations of white supremacy.
1312
01:14:29,298 --> 01:14:33,635
Just to give an example,
in a little town called Colfax, Louisiana,
1313
01:14:34,011 --> 01:14:38,682
there is in fact an obelisk put up in 1920
1314
01:14:39,016 --> 01:14:44,521
which commemorates as brave heroes,
the three white men who were killed
1315
01:14:44,605 --> 01:14:48,400
during a white massacre
of a 150 black unionists
1316
01:14:49,443 --> 01:14:51,195
after they surrendered.
1317
01:14:51,737 --> 01:14:53,614
I just think it's unbelievable
1318
01:14:53,697 --> 01:14:56,366
that any civilization
can put up a monument
1319
01:14:56,450 --> 01:15:01,371
to the three people who died
in the mass murder of a 150 people.
1320
01:15:01,455 --> 01:15:04,082
They're celebrated as great heroes
of the community.
1321
01:15:04,166 --> 01:15:08,170
There are people all over this country,
particularly in the South,
1322
01:15:08,253 --> 01:15:11,465
so-called neo-Confederates,
who will not accept
1323
01:15:11,548 --> 01:15:14,259
what it is
those monuments really stand for.
1324
01:15:14,343 --> 01:15:16,845
The claim is made repeatedly
1325
01:15:16,929 --> 01:15:19,681
that the Civil War
had nothing to do with slavery.
1326
01:15:19,765 --> 01:15:25,145
And let me say
that is patently 100% false.
1327
01:15:26,355 --> 01:15:29,650
[Richard] Monuments being torn down
is a symbol of white dispossession.
1328
01:15:29,733 --> 01:15:32,903
We talked about this issue
of the monuments
1329
01:15:32,986 --> 01:15:36,323
and being torn down
in New Orleans and so on.
1330
01:15:36,406 --> 01:15:37,824
[man] This is tyranny!
1331
01:15:37,908 --> 01:15:40,202
What's the reason for anything
that we've got in this country
1332
01:15:40,285 --> 01:15:41,787
if you can't stand behind it?
1333
01:15:41,870 --> 01:15:43,956
[people protesting]
1334
01:15:44,039 --> 01:15:45,624
[crowd cheering]
1335
01:15:47,876 --> 01:15:51,088
[Richard] It's an attack
on European history, on white history.
1336
01:15:51,171 --> 01:15:54,591
It's also symbolic
of a greater desire to erase us.
1337
01:15:55,008 --> 01:15:58,345
[interviewer] How far should we go
in terms of taking down these statues?
1338
01:15:58,428 --> 01:16:01,682
I mean, look, I think
when we have monuments
1339
01:16:01,765 --> 01:16:04,977
that expressly celebrate white supremacy,
1340
01:16:05,060 --> 01:16:06,562
I think that can come right down.
1341
01:16:06,645 --> 01:16:08,021
[crowd cheering]
1342
01:16:08,438 --> 01:16:12,150
[Richard] We said we should get on this
because this is great symbolism.
1343
01:16:12,234 --> 01:16:14,653
We said,
"Oh, let's do something Charlottesville,
1344
01:16:14,736 --> 01:16:18,448
they're moving to take down
the Lee and Jackson statues."
1345
01:16:18,532 --> 01:16:21,326
There might be hundreds,
thousands of people
1346
01:16:21,410 --> 01:16:22,828
descending on Charlottesville.
1347
01:16:22,911 --> 01:16:24,538
So, it's going to be crazy.
1348
01:16:26,039 --> 01:16:32,045
[protestors] Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh!
1349
01:16:33,755 --> 01:16:39,761
You will not replace us!
You will not replace us!
1350
01:16:40,178 --> 01:16:42,306
[cameraman]
There is very little police presence.
1351
01:16:42,598 --> 01:16:44,891
There's a group of anti-demonstrators.
1352
01:16:44,975 --> 01:16:49,563
They are completely surrounded inside
the group of torchlight demonstrators.
1353
01:16:49,646 --> 01:16:51,857
[all protesting]
1354
01:16:54,985 --> 01:16:56,778
It looks like we got a fight.
1355
01:16:57,362 --> 01:16:59,281
There's definitely a fight inside.
1356
01:17:02,701 --> 01:17:04,578
[people clamoring]
1357
01:17:17,507 --> 01:17:20,093
[cameraman] Police have not stepped in.
1358
01:17:20,802 --> 01:17:22,804
Can I ask why you guys
aren't stepping in?
1359
01:17:24,014 --> 01:17:25,265
Sir, turn this off.
1360
01:17:25,349 --> 01:17:28,101
[cameraman] I'm just wondering
why you have not intervened yet.
1361
01:17:28,185 --> 01:17:29,686
[man] What's wrong with you?
1362
01:17:29,770 --> 01:17:33,398
Nothing is wrong with me!
Everything is wrong with you!
1363
01:17:43,033 --> 01:17:44,326
[inaudible]
1364
01:17:55,462 --> 01:17:59,216
[Richard] A year ago, we weren't
doing things like Charlottesville.
1365
01:17:59,299 --> 01:18:01,885
All of that activism
was not taking place a year ago
1366
01:18:01,968 --> 01:18:03,387
and it's taking place now.
1367
01:18:10,060 --> 01:18:11,186
Get in.
1368
01:18:12,104 --> 01:18:12,979
Get in.
1369
01:18:17,984 --> 01:18:20,445
[Richard] The alt-right
has developed clearly.
1370
01:18:20,529 --> 01:18:22,114
I mean, I'm very pleased with that.
1371
01:18:24,408 --> 01:18:26,451
[Daryle] As they grow, we grow.
1372
01:18:26,535 --> 01:18:29,037
Does not necessarily mean
people dressed in black
1373
01:18:29,121 --> 01:18:31,289
coming to break windows or whatever.
1374
01:18:31,373 --> 01:18:33,291
It also means community people,
1375
01:18:33,375 --> 01:18:34,835
folks going through their day to day
1376
01:18:34,918 --> 01:18:37,170
just simply saying,
"Hey, look, we don't want this.
1377
01:18:37,254 --> 01:18:38,880
We can't have this."
1378
01:18:38,964 --> 01:18:42,134
There's always going to be more of us.
1379
01:18:43,719 --> 01:18:47,472
[Richard] Is this us?
Is DFC-- I'm just curious those buses--
1380
01:18:47,556 --> 01:18:49,224
[man] Yes, those are us.
1381
01:18:49,307 --> 01:18:52,227
-[Richard] So, they are with us, right?
-[man] Yeah.
1382
01:18:52,310 --> 01:18:53,687
[Richard] I'm actually going
to get a little whiskey.
1383
01:18:53,770 --> 01:18:57,482
Yeah, I just want a touch
just to get loosened up.
1384
01:18:57,733 --> 01:19:01,361
Get back that all cocky
Spencer confidence right.
1385
01:19:02,571 --> 01:19:04,614
-[man 1] Hail victory.
-[Richard] Hail victory.
1386
01:19:04,698 --> 01:19:05,907
Thanks for coming, guys.
1387
01:19:05,991 --> 01:19:07,701
-[man 2] Hail victory.
-[Richard] Hail victory.
1388
01:19:07,784 --> 01:19:09,786
-[woman cheering]
-[Richard] Yeah.
1389
01:19:09,870 --> 01:19:11,621
-[applause]
-[Richard] Yeah.
1390
01:19:11,705 --> 01:19:15,542
Hail victory, guys. Hail victory.
1391
01:19:16,460 --> 01:19:18,420
Hey, Max. Good to see you, man.
1392
01:19:18,503 --> 01:19:19,921
Hail victory. Hey, Mike.
1393
01:19:20,005 --> 01:19:21,882
[honking]
1394
01:19:25,802 --> 01:19:27,387
[Richard] I don't know
what's going on with Trump.
1395
01:19:27,471 --> 01:19:30,515
I mean, I don't want to quite hate him.
1396
01:19:30,599 --> 01:19:32,184
Well, we got Jews running us,
so what do you expect?
1397
01:19:32,267 --> 01:19:34,019
[Richard] Right. Right.
1398
01:19:34,102 --> 01:19:36,271
[David] What do you expect with Jews
running our country?
1399
01:19:37,898 --> 01:19:41,151
[Richard] This might very well
go off totally peacefully,
1400
01:19:41,234 --> 01:19:43,487
this might become violent.
1401
01:19:43,570 --> 01:19:46,114
I mean, that is certainly
within the realm of possibilities.
1402
01:19:46,198 --> 01:19:51,286
Basically, my policy
is just absolutely never back down.
1403
01:20:18,563 --> 01:20:20,607
[man] I thought it was disgusting
1404
01:20:20,690 --> 01:20:23,360
that a bunch of American vets
with weapons
1405
01:20:23,443 --> 01:20:25,403
are out protecting a bunch of Nazis.
1406
01:20:25,487 --> 01:20:28,615
My granddaddy fought the Nazis
in World War II.
1407
01:20:28,698 --> 01:20:29,616
[Daryle] Yeah!
1408
01:20:29,699 --> 01:20:34,287
[man with Daryle] The Nazis were protected
by these patriot militias with weapons.
1409
01:20:34,371 --> 01:20:35,413
[yelling]
1410
01:20:35,497 --> 01:20:37,666
[cameraman]
Can I ask what group you guys are with?
1411
01:20:41,419 --> 01:20:45,173
[Richard] This is the one place
where we can win and win quickly.
1412
01:20:45,257 --> 01:20:46,550
It's remarkable.
1413
01:20:46,633 --> 01:20:49,511
The right loses culturally
and so on, but...
1414
01:20:49,594 --> 01:20:51,096
[man] Don't record me, nigger!
1415
01:20:51,179 --> 01:20:52,597
[Richard]
...in terms of the free speech issue
1416
01:20:52,681 --> 01:20:56,518
and the ability to publicly demonstrate,
we're winning.
1417
01:21:02,691 --> 01:21:06,653
[people yelling]
1418
01:21:19,207 --> 01:21:21,126
[cameraman]
There is literally no police around.
1419
01:21:21,293 --> 01:21:23,753
[people protesting]
1420
01:21:36,057 --> 01:21:38,852
[man yelling] Hey, hey, get off!
1421
01:21:43,690 --> 01:21:47,611
[indistinct bangers]
1422
01:22:02,876 --> 01:22:05,670
[bangers continue]
1423
01:22:12,844 --> 01:22:15,305
[yelling]
1424
01:22:21,603 --> 01:22:25,148
How can you love God
and hate other people?
1425
01:22:25,231 --> 01:22:26,775
You can't.
1426
01:22:26,858 --> 01:22:29,861
[honking]
1427
01:22:39,537 --> 01:22:41,748
[people clamoring]
1428
01:22:48,171 --> 01:22:49,923
[men shouting indistinctly]
1429
01:22:55,136 --> 01:22:58,223
[Daryle] They went to the wrong area.
They were supposed to go over there,
1430
01:22:58,974 --> 01:23:02,811
and it was there when everybody just
started raising hell at 'em and, uh...
1431
01:23:04,646 --> 01:23:06,439
and fisticuffs began.
1432
01:23:06,523 --> 01:23:10,819
One guy took a flag from Antifa.
I actually tried to take it back.
1433
01:23:10,902 --> 01:23:13,113
[yelling]
1434
01:23:18,368 --> 01:23:19,911
Yeah, another fucking cock-sucking Nazi.
1435
01:23:19,995 --> 01:23:21,204
[man] Fucking pussies!
1436
01:23:21,287 --> 01:23:22,789
[Daryle] And all hell broke loose again.
1437
01:23:22,872 --> 01:23:26,167
Apparently, he got dealt with
1438
01:23:26,251 --> 01:23:30,672
because, um, I got pictures of him
with a really bloody puffed up face.
1439
01:23:30,755 --> 01:23:33,049
[yelling]
1440
01:23:34,968 --> 01:23:36,594
Let's go, Nazis!
1441
01:23:43,101 --> 01:23:44,269
[man] Come on!
1442
01:23:44,352 --> 01:23:46,062
[cameraman]
Police are just doing nothing.
1443
01:23:47,856 --> 01:23:51,234
Police are still not stepping in
despite multiple fights breaking out.
1444
01:23:51,317 --> 01:23:53,028
[man] No one is going to get out of here.
1445
01:23:53,111 --> 01:23:55,030
[cameraman] Why haven't you guys
intervened in the fighting?
1446
01:23:55,113 --> 01:23:56,740
[man] There was fighting
all over the place
1447
01:23:56,823 --> 01:23:58,616
and officers just stood there
and did nothing.
1448
01:23:58,700 --> 01:24:01,911
Nothing. I got it on tape. Nothing.
1449
01:24:01,995 --> 01:24:04,748
[cameraman] Why didn't you guys
intervene in any of the fighting?
1450
01:24:08,585 --> 01:24:12,047
It's 2017 and I don't know why
they keep on letting this shit happen.
1451
01:24:18,344 --> 01:24:20,472
[cameraman] The streets
of Charlottesville, Virginia,
1452
01:24:20,555 --> 01:24:22,057
look like a battleground.
1453
01:24:22,140 --> 01:24:24,100
[people clamoring]
1454
01:24:32,442 --> 01:24:34,194
[woman] Call the police!
1455
01:24:35,528 --> 01:24:37,322
Where are the police?
1456
01:24:39,365 --> 01:24:41,451
[cameraman] There seems
very little government response
1457
01:24:41,534 --> 01:24:43,328
to this incredibly large riot.
1458
01:24:51,169 --> 01:24:52,045
Shoot!
1459
01:24:52,337 --> 01:24:54,672
Fire the first shot in the race war, baby!
1460
01:24:54,964 --> 01:24:55,924
Shoot!
1461
01:24:57,383 --> 01:25:00,595
Go ahead, motherfucker.
I'm telling you, I'll shoot you.
1462
01:25:04,724 --> 01:25:05,725
[indistinct shouting]
1463
01:25:09,521 --> 01:25:11,064
[woman] We are right!
1464
01:25:12,065 --> 01:25:13,691
[woman] They are wrong!
1465
01:25:14,651 --> 01:25:15,819
We are right!
1466
01:25:15,902 --> 01:25:17,320
[police sirens]
1467
01:25:17,403 --> 01:25:19,072
[woman] They are wrong!
1468
01:25:19,155 --> 01:25:21,324
[policeman on megaphone] By authority
of the Commonwealth of Virginia,
1469
01:25:21,407 --> 01:25:24,327
this event has been declared
an unlawful assembly.
1470
01:25:25,328 --> 01:25:28,081
If you do not leave the area immediately,
you will be arrested.
1471
01:25:29,207 --> 01:25:31,709
Do not interfere with law enforcement.
1472
01:25:31,793 --> 01:25:33,795
[police sirens]
1473
01:25:37,006 --> 01:25:38,716
[cameraman]
All right, police are pushing me out.
1474
01:25:40,343 --> 01:25:42,804
[helicopters whirring]
1475
01:25:45,932 --> 01:25:48,434
[yelling]
1476
01:25:50,645 --> 01:25:51,896
[gunshot]
1477
01:25:51,980 --> 01:25:53,648
[cameraman] That certainly
sounded like a gunshot.
1478
01:25:54,524 --> 01:25:55,817
[Daryle] Shots were being fired.
1479
01:25:55,900 --> 01:25:57,861
[Richard] I heard
what I thought then was a gunshot
1480
01:25:57,944 --> 01:26:00,488
and I was like,
"Wow, this is really going south.
1481
01:26:00,572 --> 01:26:01,447
We've got to get out."
1482
01:26:01,531 --> 01:26:03,741
[Richard] Sir, I will surrender--
1483
01:26:03,825 --> 01:26:04,826
[yelling]
1484
01:26:04,909 --> 01:26:06,327
Stop. Stop.
1485
01:26:06,661 --> 01:26:07,662
Sir, Stop.
1486
01:26:07,745 --> 01:26:09,414
[man] Why are you attacking us?
1487
01:26:19,215 --> 01:26:21,217
[police officer] These guys hate you
out there, man. You don't have to do this.
1488
01:26:21,301 --> 01:26:23,428
-[Richard] Sir.
-Get up. Get up.
1489
01:26:24,888 --> 01:26:27,223
[man] Stand on your feet.
Stand on your feet, guys.
1490
01:26:27,807 --> 01:26:29,517
-[shouts]
-[Richard] Stop.
1491
01:26:30,935 --> 01:26:32,270
[Richard] Stop. I'm not resisting.
1492
01:26:33,354 --> 01:26:36,316
-[indistinct bangers]
-[people clamoring]
1493
01:26:42,739 --> 01:26:45,158
[cameraman] It looks like teargas here.
1494
01:26:47,076 --> 01:26:49,245
[Daryle] My whole body was on fire
1495
01:26:49,329 --> 01:26:52,081
and I couldn't blink,
I couldn't rub my eyes.
1496
01:26:52,165 --> 01:26:53,333
I mean, it was bad.
1497
01:26:54,542 --> 01:26:58,463
It's the first time this has ever happened
because I usually stay out of the fight.
1498
01:26:58,546 --> 01:26:59,589
[cameraman] What happened this time?
1499
01:26:59,672 --> 01:27:02,217
Well, I was trying to help somebody
1500
01:27:03,009 --> 01:27:08,681
and, uh, somebody from TWB
took a shot at me with a pepper spray.
1501
01:27:10,141 --> 01:27:11,643
So, yeah, he got me.
1502
01:27:11,726 --> 01:27:12,810
[woman] You need to call someone?
1503
01:27:12,894 --> 01:27:16,105
No, I'm OK.
Those who I need to call are here.
1504
01:27:16,189 --> 01:27:17,899
Hit me with-- Any water?
1505
01:27:19,067 --> 01:27:20,985
-My ear is on fire.
-[woman] OK.
1506
01:27:21,069 --> 01:27:22,946
OK. I have some. Here.
1507
01:27:23,988 --> 01:27:25,740
-OK.
-Hit me, hit me, go ahead.
1508
01:27:25,823 --> 01:27:27,575
[woman] Go right into the ear.
1509
01:27:27,659 --> 01:27:29,911
[man with Daryle]
After two hours of streetfight,
1510
01:27:29,994 --> 01:27:32,497
finally the cops stepped in,
the cops stepped in,
1511
01:27:32,580 --> 01:27:34,123
but they waited till noon.
1512
01:27:34,207 --> 01:27:38,795
They let that stuff go for two hours
before they did anything about it.
1513
01:27:38,878 --> 01:27:43,258
This is the worst example
of police enforcement
1514
01:27:43,341 --> 01:27:44,926
I've ever seen in anything like this.
1515
01:27:46,135 --> 01:27:50,390
I photographed stuff
from back in Vietnam, protests.
1516
01:27:50,807 --> 01:27:56,813
I've never seen police just stand around
and let stuff like this go on for hours.
1517
01:27:57,522 --> 01:27:59,732
[policeman on megaphone]
Do not intervene with law enforcement.
1518
01:27:59,816 --> 01:28:03,528
[Jared] The Charlottesville police had
a legal obligation to provide protection.
1519
01:28:04,279 --> 01:28:06,781
Perhaps you've read the report
that's come out recently now.
1520
01:28:06,864 --> 01:28:10,118
But it's very clear
that the police were under orders
1521
01:28:10,201 --> 01:28:12,954
to let a certain amount of violence
happen.
1522
01:28:13,621 --> 01:28:15,581
[Richard]
Hey, everyone, I'm safe and sound.
1523
01:28:15,665 --> 01:28:17,125
We were standing our ground.
1524
01:28:18,167 --> 01:28:21,296
And the police who came out
in just full riot gear.
1525
01:28:21,379 --> 01:28:24,465
I mean, they were pushing us
and then kicking us in the shins
1526
01:28:24,549 --> 01:28:25,883
underneath the shields.
1527
01:28:25,967 --> 01:28:31,180
Uh, but I have to be honest,
I am absolutely outraged
1528
01:28:31,472 --> 01:28:35,184
at the conduct of the city
of Charlottesville and the police.
1529
01:28:35,268 --> 01:28:36,644
[cameraman]
Police aren't even in this area.
1530
01:28:36,728 --> 01:28:38,271
I'm seeing fights break out right now.
1531
01:28:39,105 --> 01:28:40,356
[people clamoring]
1532
01:28:40,648 --> 01:28:42,442
[man] Hey, somebody help!
1533
01:28:42,567 --> 01:28:44,027
[cameraman] You guys all right?
1534
01:28:46,612 --> 01:28:47,780
[men clamoring]
1535
01:28:51,784 --> 01:28:53,536
[man] Hey, stand down right now!
1536
01:28:58,541 --> 01:29:00,293
-Now!
-Hit him!
1537
01:29:01,961 --> 01:29:03,171
Get up!
1538
01:29:12,555 --> 01:29:14,724
[coughing]
1539
01:29:30,573 --> 01:29:32,450
-No! Hey! Get him!
-Hey, help him!
1540
01:29:32,533 --> 01:29:33,743
Somebody help him!
1541
01:29:37,038 --> 01:29:39,248
Hey, stand out right now!
1542
01:29:39,332 --> 01:29:41,542
Stop, get back! Go!
1543
01:29:42,627 --> 01:29:44,378
-Stand down!
-Now! Go!
1544
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:52,595
I came here to speak my mind,
to talk about our movement's ideas,
1545
01:29:52,678 --> 01:29:54,222
and I was attacked.
1546
01:29:54,305 --> 01:29:56,516
We are gonna make Charlottesville
the center of the universe.
1547
01:29:56,599 --> 01:29:58,893
We are going to come back here often.
1548
01:29:58,976 --> 01:30:01,229
We're going-- Your head's going to spin
1549
01:30:01,646 --> 01:30:03,731
[stuttering] how many times
we're going to be back here.
1550
01:30:03,815 --> 01:30:06,442
[people clamoring]
1551
01:30:06,526 --> 01:30:09,028
You motherfuckers! You dance like this!
1552
01:30:09,946 --> 01:30:11,239
-Fuck you!
-You know--
1553
01:30:11,322 --> 01:30:12,281
Fuck you!
1554
01:30:16,994 --> 01:30:19,413
[car accelerating]
1555
01:30:22,333 --> 01:30:24,252
[people screaming]
1556
01:30:26,087 --> 01:30:27,130
[brakes screeching]
1557
01:30:27,213 --> 01:30:28,589
[woman] Holy shit!
1558
01:30:29,507 --> 01:30:32,802
[woman] Holy shit! Holy shit!
1559
01:30:34,262 --> 01:30:35,638
[cameraman] Go, go, go, go.
1560
01:30:42,395 --> 01:30:44,814
[people clamoring]
1561
01:30:46,274 --> 01:30:47,733
[man yelling] Why?
1562
01:30:53,489 --> 01:30:57,201
[cameraman] We got multiple injuries.
Possible fatalities.
1563
01:31:01,122 --> 01:31:05,835
I'm assuming a white nationalist
ran a huge crowd of people. I just saw it.
1564
01:31:06,294 --> 01:31:08,504
Where are the police and the ambulances?
1565
01:31:08,796 --> 01:31:10,131
I cannot believe what just happened.
1566
01:31:10,214 --> 01:31:11,924
I've never seen anything like that
in my life.
1567
01:31:12,008 --> 01:31:14,260
[TV hostess] Breaking news.
Terror in Charlottesville.
1568
01:31:14,343 --> 01:31:19,265
Victims thrown in the air, one woman dead,
others critically wounded.
1569
01:31:19,348 --> 01:31:22,393
[TV hostess 2] James Fields Junior
is facing a number of charges.
1570
01:31:22,476 --> 01:31:25,855
He's charged with
one count of second degree murder,
1571
01:31:25,938 --> 01:31:29,942
three counts of malicious wounding,
and one count of hit-and-run.
1572
01:31:30,026 --> 01:31:32,987
[interviewer]
Why not just condemn her killing?
1573
01:31:33,070 --> 01:31:35,198
I certainly condemn her killing
1574
01:31:35,281 --> 01:31:39,118
in the sense that
I certainly did not want it to happen
1575
01:31:39,202 --> 01:31:40,870
and I think it's a sad thing.
1576
01:31:41,871 --> 01:31:45,208
But I'm not going to play into their game
1577
01:31:45,291 --> 01:31:49,587
in the sense of denouncing the movement
1578
01:31:49,670 --> 01:31:51,714
or saying that hate killed her or--
1579
01:31:51,797 --> 01:31:53,925
[people clamoring]
1580
01:31:56,594 --> 01:32:00,264
We expected there will be
some loss of life in the age of Trump
1581
01:32:00,348 --> 01:32:02,725
at the hands of these
right-wing extremists,
1582
01:32:02,934 --> 01:32:06,562
and we just were not prepared
for that being the way.
1583
01:32:06,979 --> 01:32:09,190
I think that Charlottesville...
1584
01:32:11,108 --> 01:32:13,444
was an incredibly big deal.
1585
01:32:13,527 --> 01:32:17,657
It was something
that caused people to realize
1586
01:32:17,740 --> 01:32:21,035
that you can't ignore the Nazis.
1587
01:32:21,118 --> 01:32:24,372
We condemn in the strongest possible terms
1588
01:32:25,289 --> 01:32:29,627
this egregious display of hatred, bigotry
and violence
1589
01:32:29,710 --> 01:32:32,421
on many sides, on many sides.
1590
01:32:32,505 --> 01:32:37,051
What about the alt-left that came charging
at the, as you say, the alt-right?
1591
01:32:37,260 --> 01:32:40,304
Do they have any semblance of guilt?
1592
01:32:40,388 --> 01:32:42,223
[President Trump]
You had a group on one side that was bad
1593
01:32:42,306 --> 01:32:45,768
and you had a group on the other side
that was also very violent.
1594
01:32:46,018 --> 01:32:48,646
And nobody wants to say that,
but I'll say it right now.
1595
01:32:48,729 --> 01:32:51,691
We understand
that President Trump has reached out.
1596
01:32:51,774 --> 01:32:54,235
Have you talked to him directly yet?
1597
01:32:54,318 --> 01:32:56,654
I have not and now I will not.
1598
01:32:56,862 --> 01:32:59,865
I'm not talking to the President now,
I'm sorry.
1599
01:32:59,949 --> 01:33:01,033
[TV hostess] What did you--
1600
01:33:01,117 --> 01:33:02,576
After what he said about my child.
1601
01:33:02,660 --> 01:33:05,288
The statement I made on Saturday,
the first statement,
1602
01:33:05,371 --> 01:33:06,872
was a fine statement.
1603
01:33:06,956 --> 01:33:09,750
[Daryle]
I expected Trump to be an idiot about it
1604
01:33:10,251 --> 01:33:12,378
and he didn't disappoint.
1605
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:17,008
What always is going to upset me
when it comes to Trump, however,
1606
01:33:17,425 --> 01:33:20,886
is just how helpless
1607
01:33:20,970 --> 01:33:23,723
the general public feels they are.
1608
01:33:23,806 --> 01:33:25,808
[crowd cheering]
1609
01:33:25,891 --> 01:33:28,978
[Richard]
The idea that I would ever back down
1610
01:33:29,061 --> 01:33:31,647
to such a little creep like Mayor Signer,
1611
01:33:31,731 --> 01:33:33,816
we are never backing down.
1612
01:33:33,899 --> 01:33:35,484
[crowd] Yeah!
1613
01:33:35,568 --> 01:33:38,112
[crowd cheering]
1614
01:33:38,571 --> 01:33:40,865
[McAuliffe]
We got to call it out for what it is.
1615
01:33:41,157 --> 01:33:43,242
It is hatred, it is bigotry
1616
01:33:43,326 --> 01:33:46,871
and our leaders
got to be very frank, unequivocal.
1617
01:33:46,954 --> 01:33:49,874
We will not tolerate that in our country.
1618
01:33:49,957 --> 01:33:51,751
[crowd cheering]
1619
01:33:51,834 --> 01:33:53,461
I think it'd be hard to find anyone
1620
01:33:53,544 --> 01:33:56,005
who would say
that this was some sort of great victory.
1621
01:33:56,088 --> 01:33:57,798
As a result of Charlottesville,
1622
01:33:57,882 --> 01:34:00,634
Confederate memorials
all around the country suddenly came down.
1623
01:34:00,718 --> 01:34:02,636
The idea was to defend one.
1624
01:34:02,887 --> 01:34:05,014
And it had absolutely reverse effect.
1625
01:34:05,306 --> 01:34:09,435
The consequences of that rally
and of Heather Heyer's death
1626
01:34:09,727 --> 01:34:14,231
was this widespread
so-called de-platforming
1627
01:34:14,440 --> 01:34:17,318
of anyone who is considered to support
1628
01:34:17,401 --> 01:34:21,447
any kind of white racial consciousness
or racial nationalism.
1629
01:34:22,198 --> 01:34:25,159
[people talking indistinctly]
1630
01:34:39,673 --> 01:34:41,634
[people talking indistinctly]
1631
01:34:42,802 --> 01:34:44,178
Yesterday--
1632
01:34:47,056 --> 01:34:48,307
Fuck you, asshole!
1633
01:34:48,391 --> 01:34:50,976
Fuck off, Jason! Shut the fuck up--
1634
01:34:51,060 --> 01:34:55,689
Indict for murder now!
Indict for murder now!
1635
01:34:55,773 --> 01:34:57,566
-[man] Get the fuck out of here!
-Indict for murder!
1636
01:34:57,650 --> 01:35:02,655
He invited these people!
Indict for murder now!
1637
01:35:02,738 --> 01:35:04,990
[people clamoring]
1638
01:35:15,126 --> 01:35:16,961
Come on, come on.
1639
01:35:19,839 --> 01:35:21,382
Let's go, let's go!
1640
01:35:21,465 --> 01:35:23,175
[man] Her name was Heather, jerk!
1641
01:35:23,259 --> 01:35:25,302
Her name was Heather, Jason!
1642
01:35:25,928 --> 01:35:28,013
Her blood is on your hands.
1643
01:35:28,431 --> 01:35:33,018
So, please, go home and never come back.
1644
01:35:36,021 --> 01:35:39,358
[cameraman] All right, we are live.
We are live. We're live.
1645
01:35:40,568 --> 01:35:41,652
OK, guys, let's do it.
1646
01:35:41,735 --> 01:35:43,988
-Let's go.
-Let's go.
1647
01:35:44,989 --> 01:35:46,073
Move.
1648
01:35:48,784 --> 01:35:50,161
[cameraman] We are peacefully here.
1649
01:35:50,244 --> 01:35:52,705
[Richard] Yes, we are not
breaking any law in fact.
1650
01:35:52,788 --> 01:35:54,582
[man 2] Well, but you're assholes.
1651
01:35:55,082 --> 01:35:57,293
[indistinct chattering over police radio]
1652
01:35:57,877 --> 01:36:00,963
[cameraman] We said we would be back.
We are back.
1653
01:36:05,634 --> 01:36:07,428
You can see we are peacefully walking.
1654
01:36:11,348 --> 01:36:12,892
[woman] What are you guys doing?
1655
01:36:13,767 --> 01:36:15,311
[cameraman] Peacefully walking.
1656
01:36:15,686 --> 01:36:17,897
You all can be witnesses.
Peacefully walking.
1657
01:36:26,822 --> 01:36:28,324
[man] Jesus Christ...
1658
01:36:29,575 --> 01:36:31,785
[indistinct chattering over police radio]
1659
01:36:33,954 --> 01:36:35,706
Formations are just filling right here.
1660
01:36:35,789 --> 01:36:37,833
This goes up to the front.
This goes up there.
1661
01:36:37,917 --> 01:36:39,543
-Fill in.
-Yes, up there.
1662
01:36:39,627 --> 01:36:42,338
You guys form up
with the statue at your back.
1663
01:36:42,421 --> 01:36:45,341
Form up with the statue at your back,
at your rear.
1664
01:36:46,258 --> 01:36:47,301
Face out. Face out.
1665
01:36:47,384 --> 01:36:48,552
[cameraman] We're by the statue,
1666
01:36:48,636 --> 01:36:51,472
it's covered up in black.
That's a sad sight.
1667
01:36:52,389 --> 01:36:53,474
Here.
1668
01:36:53,557 --> 01:36:55,267
You will not replace us!
1669
01:36:55,351 --> 01:36:57,394
You will not replace us!
1670
01:36:57,603 --> 01:36:59,563
You will not replace us!
1671
01:36:59,647 --> 01:37:01,524
You will not replace us!
1672
01:37:01,774 --> 01:37:03,609
You will not replace us!
1673
01:37:03,817 --> 01:37:05,653
You will not replace us!
1674
01:37:05,861 --> 01:37:07,446
[Matt Christman] These guys
who marched in Charlottesville,
1675
01:37:07,530 --> 01:37:10,074
these are the people who are aware
1676
01:37:10,157 --> 01:37:12,660
of the unspoken premise
1677
01:37:12,743 --> 01:37:15,788
of this sort of zombie neo-liberalism
we're living in,
1678
01:37:15,871 --> 01:37:17,915
which is that we're coming at a point
1679
01:37:17,998 --> 01:37:20,251
where there's going to be
ecological catastrophe
1680
01:37:20,334 --> 01:37:24,380
and it's going to either
require mass redistribution
1681
01:37:24,463 --> 01:37:29,426
of the ill-gotten gains
of the first world or genocide.
1682
01:37:29,510 --> 01:37:31,178
This is where the White House is.
1683
01:37:31,262 --> 01:37:34,223
We're going to get to 17th Street,
take a right, come back--
1684
01:37:34,306 --> 01:37:36,517
[Matt] And these are the first people
who have basically said,
1685
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:38,936
"Well, if that's the choice,
I choose genocide."
1686
01:37:39,019 --> 01:37:42,022
...in my opinion, it could be taken
without the authorization of Congress,
1687
01:37:42,106 --> 01:37:44,066
uh, is building a wall.
1688
01:37:44,149 --> 01:37:45,484
-So, that's my speech basically.
-Yeah.
1689
01:37:45,568 --> 01:37:47,653
[Richard] I think that will be
five to ten minutes.
1690
01:37:47,736 --> 01:37:52,324
If I can try to get you to work on it,
then we have to be able to talk about it.
1691
01:37:52,408 --> 01:37:54,660
[Matt] And they're getting
everybody else ready,
1692
01:37:54,743 --> 01:37:56,287
intellectually and emotionally,
1693
01:37:56,912 --> 01:37:59,248
for why that's going to be OK
when it happens.
1694
01:37:59,331 --> 01:38:01,000
[interviewer] So, with statistics showing
1695
01:38:01,083 --> 01:38:04,378
white people soon becoming a minority
in this country,
1696
01:38:04,461 --> 01:38:07,089
do you ever feel
like you're just fighting a losing battle?
1697
01:38:07,172 --> 01:38:10,426
No. Demographics are creating this.
1698
01:38:10,509 --> 01:38:11,969
They are doing it for us.
1699
01:38:12,052 --> 01:38:16,348
It's not me convincing millions of people
through rational argumentation.
1700
01:38:16,432 --> 01:38:21,020
It's their lived experience
as a minority white
1701
01:38:21,103 --> 01:38:23,689
in a country that once was theirs.
1702
01:38:26,567 --> 01:38:30,613
[Jared] I don't make my decisions
on my chances of winning.
1703
01:38:30,696 --> 01:38:33,532
I make my decisions
according to what is right,
1704
01:38:33,616 --> 01:38:36,994
the duty I owe to my ancestors,
my obligations to my children.
1705
01:38:37,077 --> 01:38:38,370
And I think we will win.
1706
01:38:40,372 --> 01:38:43,000
[Matt] When putting all this money
into more fucking walls
1707
01:38:43,083 --> 01:38:46,253
and drones and bombs and guns
to keep them away
1708
01:38:46,337 --> 01:38:49,423
and so that we can watch them die,
with clear consciences,
1709
01:38:49,506 --> 01:38:52,551
it's going to be because
we've been loaded with the ideology
1710
01:38:52,635 --> 01:38:55,429
that these guys
are now starting to express publicly.
1711
01:38:55,512 --> 01:38:57,765
On the other side of them,
you have people who are saying,
1712
01:38:57,848 --> 01:39:00,142
in full fucking voice, "No."
1713
01:39:00,225 --> 01:39:02,603
[crowd] Immigrants are welcome here!
1714
01:39:02,686 --> 01:39:04,647
[Matt] We have the resources
to save everybody,
1715
01:39:04,730 --> 01:39:08,734
to give everybody
a fucking decent and worthwhile existence.
1716
01:39:08,817 --> 01:39:12,696
And that is the fucking real difference
between these two.
1717
01:39:12,780 --> 01:39:14,948
This is not right and you know it!
1718
01:39:15,032 --> 01:39:17,076
[Lacy] This is a really important fight.
1719
01:39:17,159 --> 01:39:19,953
In the long term, we have to win this one.
1720
01:39:20,037 --> 01:39:21,580
We have to win this one.
1721
01:39:22,039 --> 01:39:27,169
If they win, if the alt-right wins,
what we're looking at is
1722
01:39:27,795 --> 01:39:28,837
[sighs]
1723
01:39:28,921 --> 01:39:31,965
incredible suffering and people dying.
1724
01:39:32,049 --> 01:39:36,512
I'm calling on you, Donald Trump,
build that wall!
1725
01:39:36,595 --> 01:39:38,097
[man] Nazi scum!
1726
01:39:38,180 --> 01:39:40,849
You owe it to every single person
who voted for you!
1727
01:39:40,933 --> 01:39:44,687
[Daryle] I think that Spencer is basically
just going through the motions now.
1728
01:39:44,895 --> 01:39:48,315
Spencer did not want to be
the carnival barker.
1729
01:39:48,399 --> 01:39:51,318
Spencer did not want to be
just in the streets
1730
01:39:51,402 --> 01:39:54,071
basically parroting
what everyone has heard
1731
01:39:54,154 --> 01:39:56,865
from white-supremacists
over the past 50 years.
1732
01:39:56,949 --> 01:39:59,493
He could have been Senator Spencer
at this point.
1733
01:39:59,576 --> 01:40:02,996
Daryle Lamont Jenkins
was in Charlottesville, Virginia,
1734
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:06,417
and he outed a lot of the KKK guys.
1735
01:40:06,500 --> 01:40:07,626
[applause]
1736
01:40:07,710 --> 01:40:09,420
[Daryle] I'm one of the few Antifa,
1737
01:40:09,503 --> 01:40:12,089
you may have heard that term before,
anti-fascists.
1738
01:40:12,172 --> 01:40:15,259
I'm one of the few
that you would see in public.
1739
01:40:15,342 --> 01:40:17,469
A lot of us do not like to be in public.
1740
01:40:17,553 --> 01:40:19,513
A lot of us can't.
1741
01:40:19,930 --> 01:40:23,684
And it's on their behalf
that I take this award.
1742
01:40:23,767 --> 01:40:27,146
It is on the behalf of those victims
of hatred and bigotry
1743
01:40:27,229 --> 01:40:28,564
that I accept this award.
1744
01:40:28,647 --> 01:40:32,151
Fuck off, Nazi scum! Fuck off, Nazi scum!
1745
01:40:32,234 --> 01:40:35,696
Fuck off, Nazi scum! Fuck off, Nazi scum!
1746
01:40:35,779 --> 01:40:39,366
Fuck off, Nazi scum! Fuck off, Nazi scum!
1747
01:40:39,450 --> 01:40:41,285
Fuck off, Nazi scum!
1748
01:40:41,368 --> 01:40:44,246
I go out there
and try to document every single thing
1749
01:40:44,329 --> 01:40:49,293
that is going on in the white power scene
or in the hate scene in general.
1750
01:40:49,376 --> 01:40:53,922
That's the way we are all going to learn
how to beat it back, how to keep it down,
1751
01:40:54,006 --> 01:40:55,966
how to diminish their ability to function.
1752
01:40:56,049 --> 01:40:58,761
And one thing that needs to be said
1753
01:40:59,219 --> 01:41:03,474
is that evil can only do
what we allow it to do.
1754
01:41:03,557 --> 01:41:07,936
We are stronger
than anything that is coming our way.
1755
01:41:08,020 --> 01:41:10,731
[crowd] No Nazis, no KKK, no fascist USA!
1756
01:41:10,814 --> 01:41:13,275
[Daryle] Truth of the matter
is we all got to step up.
1757
01:41:13,609 --> 01:41:17,279
We cannot ignore what's out there.
We got to fight back.
1758
01:41:17,362 --> 01:41:21,283
And the only way we can do that
is when we get up in their face
1759
01:41:21,366 --> 01:41:22,951
and tell them, "This far, but no farther."
1760
01:41:23,035 --> 01:41:24,286
Thank you very much.
1761
01:41:24,369 --> 01:41:26,413
[crowd cheering and applauding]
1762
01:41:36,507 --> 01:41:39,802
[Matt] Fascism arises
because of the collapse
1763
01:41:39,885 --> 01:41:43,138
of institutional legitimacy
of liberal institutions.
1764
01:41:43,222 --> 01:41:44,723
So, it's how we got fucking Trump,
1765
01:41:44,807 --> 01:41:47,476
it's how we're going to get
what's coming next after him
1766
01:41:47,559 --> 01:41:49,353
that's going to be even worse.
1767
01:41:52,564 --> 01:41:53,482
If you think there's not gonna be
1768
01:41:53,565 --> 01:41:56,985
more ecological and economic catastrophes
in the future...
1769
01:41:57,069 --> 01:42:00,113
[TV host] Strong worry
is that it's about to get worse.
1770
01:42:00,197 --> 01:42:03,575
[Matt] ...that liberalism is
wholly unsuited to fucking deal with
1771
01:42:03,659 --> 01:42:06,370
and that that failure
is not going to lead
1772
01:42:06,453 --> 01:42:10,123
to fascism filling that fucking hole,
you got another thing coming.
1773
01:42:10,207 --> 01:42:12,668
[men clamoring]
1774
01:42:16,171 --> 01:42:17,840
[interviewer] So, America right now
1775
01:42:17,923 --> 01:42:21,343
is more divided and polarized
than it has been in decades.
1776
01:42:21,718 --> 01:42:23,720
How's the country gonna come together?
1777
01:42:25,806 --> 01:42:28,559
I don't think
the country will come together
1778
01:42:28,642 --> 01:42:31,478
and I don't want it to.
1779
01:42:31,562 --> 01:42:34,022
Maybe we can't be a nation anymore.
1780
01:42:34,106 --> 01:42:37,860
Maybe race and culture
and ethnicity and religion,
1781
01:42:37,943 --> 01:42:40,153
maybe those are really real things.
1782
01:42:40,821 --> 01:42:42,656
And we're not gonna come together.
1783
01:42:42,739 --> 01:42:45,701
[interviewer] At this point, we're
the most divided as a country we've been--
1784
01:42:45,784 --> 01:42:46,952
-I disagree.
-No?
1785
01:42:47,035 --> 01:42:49,538
-You disagree?
-Yes. I disagree.
1786
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:53,125
We're not divided. We're not divided
the way people may think we are.
1787
01:42:53,208 --> 01:42:54,668
We're frustrated,
1788
01:42:55,294 --> 01:42:58,297
we want questions answered,
but we're not divided.