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>> green: You know, I can recall
a time where I didn't have
anything positive to say, then
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a time where I didn't have
anything positive to say, then
all of a sudden, everything
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anything positive to say, then
all of a sudden, everything
I wished to say, you know, is to
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all of a sudden, everything
I wished to say, you know, is to
convey message and give hope and
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I wished to say, you know, is to
convey message and give hope and
give strength and give
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convey message and give hope and
give strength and give
encouragement and enlightenment.
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Give strength and give
encouragement and enlightenment.
I guess it's because I needed
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encouragement and enlightenment.
I guess it's because I needed
it, too, you know what I mean?
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I guess it's because I needed
it, too, you know what I mean?
And I believe that goodie mob
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it, too, you know what I mean?
And I believe that goodie mob
was a saving grace because it
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and I believe that goodie mob
was a saving grace because it
was the family that I needed,
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was a saving grace because it
was the family that I needed,
you know, in my time of loss,
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was the family that I needed,
you know, in my time of loss,
and it was the catharticism I
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you know, in my time of loss,
and it was the catharticism I
needed, you know, to be able to
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and it was the catharticism I
needed, you know, to be able to
express and to vent and to be
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needed, you know, to be able to
express and to vent and to be
heard and to be embraced and
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express and to vent and to be
heard and to be embraced and
understood.
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Heard and to be embraced and
understood.
I think essentially, it was
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understood.
I think essentially, it was
a coping mechanism for me.
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I think essentially, it was
a coping mechanism for me.
I didn't -- I didn't know any of
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a coping mechanism for me.
I didn't -- I didn't know any of
my notions or, you know, or
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I didn't -- I didn't know any of
my notions or, you know, or
anything about me was eccentric
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my notions or, you know, or
anything about me was eccentric
or unique or bizarre.
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Anything about me was eccentric
or unique or bizarre.
But it was.
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Or unique or bizarre.
But it was.
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I was born and raised in
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I was born and raised in
atlanta, georgia.
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I was born and raised in
atlanta, georgia.
I have one sibling -- I have
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atlanta, georgia.
I have one sibling -- I have
an older sister.
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I have one sibling -- I have
an older sister.
A single-parent household,
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an older sister.
A single-parent household,
but a crowded house.
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A single-parent household,
but a crowded house.
I grew up with my entire family
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but a crowded house.
I grew up with my entire family
in one house -- maybe about
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I grew up with my entire family
in one house -- maybe about
15 people.
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In one house -- maybe about
15 people.
Talking about a grandmother,
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15 people.
Talking about a grandmother,
a great-grandmother, a mother,
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talking about a grandmother,
a great-grandmother, a mother,
an auntie, two cousins,
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a great-grandmother, a mother,
an auntie, two cousins,
a sister, an uncle, and
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an auntie, two cousins,
a sister, an uncle, and
an auntie.
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A sister, an uncle, and
an auntie.
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an auntie.
[ laughs ]
a lot of love growing up.
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[ laughs ]
a lot of love growing up.
Both my mother and father were
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a lot of love growing up.
Both my mother and father were
ordained ministers.
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Both my mother and father were
ordained ministers.
I lost my father very early.
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Ordained ministers.
I lost my father very early.
I lost my father when I was
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I lost my father very early.
I lost my father when I was
about 2 years old, and I lost
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I lost my father when I was
about 2 years old, and I lost
my mother when I was about 17.
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About 2 years old, and I lost
my mother when I was about 17.
I do remember the significance
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my mother when I was about 17.
I do remember the significance
of the loss, I just had not...
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I do remember the significance
of the loss, I just had not...
Experienced the significance of
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of the loss, I just had not...
Experienced the significance of
having a father at all, because
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experienced the significance of
having a father at all, because
I was very young and I did not
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having a father at all, because
I was very young and I did not
know the difference.
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I was very young and I did not
know the difference.
But I do remember the day of his
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know the difference.
But I do remember the day of his
passing and the processional.
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But I do remember the day of his
passing and the processional.
I think the craving for a male
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passing and the processional.
I think the craving for a male
figure and presence in my life
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I think the craving for a male
figure and presence in my life
was more subconscious than
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figure and presence in my life
was more subconscious than
conscious, but I can say there
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was more subconscious than
conscious, but I can say there
was a reoccurrence of multiple
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conscious, but I can say there
was a reoccurrence of multiple
male presences, you know,
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was a reoccurrence of multiple
male presences, you know,
throughout my young, adolescent
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male presences, you know,
throughout my young, adolescent
life.
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Throughout my young, adolescent
life.
I remember there used to be such
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life.
I remember there used to be such
a thing called a big brother
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I remember there used to be such
a thing called a big brother
program, so I remember
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a thing called a big brother
program, so I remember
mr. Bailey.
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Program, so I remember
mr. Bailey.
He used to come and pick me up
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mr. Bailey.
He used to come and pick me up
and take me to baseball
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he used to come and pick me up
and take me to baseball
practice.
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And take me to baseball
practice.
You know, and then we ultimately
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practice.
You know, and then we ultimately
found a church home at
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you know, and then we ultimately
found a church home at
fellowship of faith
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found a church home at
fellowship of faith
international in atlanta,
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fellowship of faith
international in atlanta,
georgia, in east point.
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International in atlanta,
georgia, in east point.
And I remember brother jim avery
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georgia, in east point.
And I remember brother jim avery
took a liking to me, and him and
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and I remember brother jim avery
took a liking to me, and him and
my mother ended up being really
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took a liking to me, and him and
my mother ended up being really
good friends for a long time.
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My mother ended up being really
good friends for a long time.
In short, I had a lot of love
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good friends for a long time.
In short, I had a lot of love
and had a lot of support over
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in short, I had a lot of love
and had a lot of support over
the years.
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And had a lot of support over
the years.
My mother was dynamic in a way
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the years.
My mother was dynamic in a way
of where, you know, she was...
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My mother was dynamic in a way
of where, you know, she was...
This...Mixture of male energy
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of where, you know, she was...
This...Mixture of male energy
and female energy.
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This...Mixture of male energy
and female energy.
It gave her a harder exterior,
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and female energy.
It gave her a harder exterior,
you know what I mean?
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It gave her a harder exterior,
you know what I mean?
And a little difficult to deal
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you know what I mean?
And a little difficult to deal
with at times, but she was
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and a little difficult to deal
with at times, but she was
a very driven and motivated
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with at times, but she was
a very driven and motivated
mover and shaker.
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A very driven and motivated
mover and shaker.
My mother was something else --
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mover and shaker.
My mother was something else --
independent, enterprising,
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my mother was something else --
independent, enterprising,
ambitious, audacious, you know,
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independent, enterprising,
ambitious, audacious, you know,
and accomplished quite a lot.
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Ambitious, audacious, you know,
and accomplished quite a lot.
My mother was a special woman.
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And accomplished quite a lot.
My mother was a special woman.
On her own personal plight and
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my mother was a special woman.
On her own personal plight and
pursuit of happiness, we kind of
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on her own personal plight and
pursuit of happiness, we kind of
oversighted the maternal nature
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pursuit of happiness, we kind of
oversighted the maternal nature
of, you know, typical or
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oversighted the maternal nature
of, you know, typical or
traditional mothering.
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Of, you know, typical or
traditional mothering.
But, you know, her way and her
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traditional mothering.
But, you know, her way and her
approach, you know, had a great
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but, you know, her way and her
approach, you know, had a great
deal to do with who I am today.
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Approach, you know, had a great
deal to do with who I am today.
So no complaints.
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Deal to do with who I am today.
So no complaints.
If I could say anybody helped
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so no complaints.
If I could say anybody helped
raise me and my sister, was us
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if I could say anybody helped
raise me and my sister, was us
raising each other, pretty much.
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Raise me and my sister, was us
raising each other, pretty much.
We were what they called at that
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raising each other, pretty much.
We were what they called at that
time latch key kids.
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We were what they called at that
time latch key kids.
So, you know, you got that key
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time latch key kids.
So, you know, you got that key
tied around your neck with a
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so, you know, you got that key
tied around your neck with a
shoestring and, you know,
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tied around your neck with a
shoestring and, you know,
a couple of tokens for the bus
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shoestring and, you know,
a couple of tokens for the bus
and some fish sticks. [ laughs ]
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a couple of tokens for the bus
and some fish sticks. [ laughs ]
you know what I mean?
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And some fish sticks. [ laughs ]
you know what I mean?
Don't answer the phone,
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you know what I mean?
Don't answer the phone,
you know.
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Don't answer the phone,
you know.
If it's me calling, then let it
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you know.
If it's me calling, then let it
ring twice then hang up or
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if it's me calling, then let it
ring twice then hang up or
something like that.
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Ring twice then hang up or
something like that.
My older sister took care of me
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something like that.
My older sister took care of me
a lot of the time.
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My older sister took care of me
a lot of the time.
I'm really grateful for
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a lot of the time.
I'm really grateful for
my sister.
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I'm really grateful for
my sister.
As a kid in school, I was
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my sister.
As a kid in school, I was
something else.
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As a kid in school, I was
something else.
It only is revealed to me in
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something else.
It only is revealed to me in
retrospect that..I was always
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it only is revealed to me in
retrospect that..I was always
an artist.
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Retrospect that..I was always
an artist.
Just without the encouragement
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an artist.
Just without the encouragement
or the outlet, you know?
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Just without the encouragement
or the outlet, you know?
So, a lot of it...Manifested
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or the outlet, you know?
So, a lot of it...Manifested
itself as disobedience and
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so, a lot of it...Manifested
itself as disobedience and
incoherence, you know.
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Itself as disobedience and
incoherence, you know.
I couldn't focus, you know, on
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incoherence, you know.
I couldn't focus, you know, on
the lesson at hand.
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I couldn't focus, you know, on
the lesson at hand.
I was easily distracted.
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The lesson at hand.
I was easily distracted.
I just didn't have
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I was easily distracted.
I just didn't have
a constructive way to convey it
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I just didn't have
a constructive way to convey it
at that time.
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A constructive way to convey it
at that time.
And also, I grew up in church,
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at that time.
And also, I grew up in church,
so gospel music was where
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and also, I grew up in church,
so gospel music was where
everything, you know, was like
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so gospel music was where
everything, you know, was like
a culmination.
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Everything, you know, was like
a culmination.
Me losing my father so early,
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a culmination.
Me losing my father so early,
I found -- I found a connection
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me losing my father so early,
I found -- I found a connection
in the voices of soul men of
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I found -- I found a connection
in the voices of soul men of
that time, whether it was
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in the voices of soul men of
that time, whether it was
the blues.
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That time, whether it was
the blues.
A good friend of my mother's,
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the blues.
A good friend of my mother's,
alley pat, who was a radio
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a good friend of my mother's,
alley pat, who was a radio
personality at that time, and he
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alley pat, who was a radio
personality at that time, and he
gave me a box of 45s, and so
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personality at that time, and he
gave me a box of 45s, and so
that way, I discovered
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gave me a box of 45s, and so
that way, I discovered
johnnie taylor and z.Z. Hill
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that way, I discovered
johnnie taylor and z.Z. Hill
and bobby blue bland and
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johnnie taylor and z.Z. Hill
and bobby blue bland and
b.B. King and all of those
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and bobby blue bland and
b.B. King and all of those
voices that the tonalities just
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b.B. King and all of those
voices that the tonalities just
sounded like mature men.
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Voices that the tonalities just
sounded like mature men.
I picked up on a lot of those
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sounded like mature men.
I picked up on a lot of those
inflections, and they ended up
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I picked up on a lot of those
inflections, and they ended up
ultimately becoming my own
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inflections, and they ended up
ultimately becoming my own
voice.
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Ultimately becoming my own
voice.
All of those names inspired
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voice.
All of those names inspired
my path, you know, musically,
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all of those names inspired
my path, you know, musically,
and I wanted to...Emulate it.
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My path, you know, musically,
and I wanted to...Emulate it.
I always had an older taste --
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and I wanted to...Emulate it.
I always had an older taste --
older taste in music, cars,
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I always had an older taste --
older taste in music, cars,
clothes, women.
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Older taste in music, cars,
clothes, women.
A lot of what, you know, has
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clothes, women.
A lot of what, you know, has
become my own music and career
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a lot of what, you know, has
become my own music and career
is really based off an imitation
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become my own music and career
is really based off an imitation
of life.
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Is really based off an imitation
of life.
All of those older guys giving
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of life.
All of those older guys giving
me game, you know what I mean,
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all of those older guys giving
me game, you know what I mean,
but me just picking up on it.
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Me game, you know what I mean,
but me just picking up on it.
And eventually, I became myself
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but me just picking up on it.
And eventually, I became myself
because of it.
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And eventually, I became myself
because of it.
The guys in goodie mob were guys
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because of it.
The guys in goodie mob were guys
from the neighborhood -- myself
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the guys in goodie mob were guys
from the neighborhood -- myself
and t-mo goodie grew up in
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from the neighborhood -- myself
and t-mo goodie grew up in
the same neighborhood, a street
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and t-mo goodie grew up in
the same neighborhood, a street
over, which --
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the same neighborhood, a street
over, which --
he's my sister's age.
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Over, which --
he's my sister's age.
My sister, shedonna, graduated
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he's my sister's age.
My sister, shedonna, graduated
with t-mo, khujo, and big gipp,
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my sister, shedonna, graduated
with t-mo, khujo, and big gipp,
class of '90, benjamin e. Mays
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with t-mo, khujo, and big gipp,
class of '90, benjamin e. Mays
high school, southwest atlanta,
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class of '90, benjamin e. Mays
high school, southwest atlanta,
georgia.
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High school, southwest atlanta,
georgia.
I just so happened to know t-mo
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georgia.
I just so happened to know t-mo
because we grew up in the same
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I just so happened to know t-mo
because we grew up in the same
neighborhood -- a street over
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because we grew up in the same
neighborhood -- a street over
from each other, as a matter of
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neighborhood -- a street over
from each other, as a matter of
fact.
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From each other, as a matter of
fact.
You know, he was a few years
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fact.
You know, he was a few years
older than me, but there was
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you know, he was a few years
older than me, but there was
something about him and
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older than me, but there was
something about him and
something about his eyes that
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something about him and
something about his eyes that
were always so memorable to me.
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Something about his eyes that
were always so memorable to me.
Brandon peters, killer b, and
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were always so memorable to me.
Brandon peters, killer b, and
james douglas, j.D., god bless
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brandon peters, killer b, and
james douglas, j.D., god bless
the dead, ended up being
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james douglas, j.D., god bless
the dead, ended up being
my managers.
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The dead, ended up being
my managers.
There's another good friend of
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my managers.
There's another good friend of
ours from high school named
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there's another good friend of
ours from high school named
glen cook.
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Ours from high school named
glen cook.
His house was, like, the party
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glen cook.
His house was, like, the party
house, you know.
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His house was, like, the party
house, you know.
Either we was cutting school to
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house, you know.
Either we was cutting school to
go over there and drink a beer
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either we was cutting school to
go over there and drink a beer
and hang out all day or he was
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go over there and drink a beer
and hang out all day or he was
having some type of cookout or
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and hang out all day or he was
having some type of cookout or
some type of function at his
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having some type of cookout or
some type of function at his
house.
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Some type of function at his
house.
And so we all ended up over here
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house.
And so we all ended up over here
one day.
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And so we all ended up over here
one day.
Just prior, I had heard
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one day.
Just prior, I had heard
the lumberjacks demo, and I
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just prior, I had heard
the lumberjacks demo, and I
ended up at this place, and I
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the lumberjacks demo, and I
ended up at this place, and I
walked up on a rap cypher, you
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ended up at this place, and I
walked up on a rap cypher, you
know what I mean?
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Walked up on a rap cypher, you
know what I mean?
And khujo says to me, "I heard
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know what I mean?
And khujo says to me, "I heard
you rap."
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and khujo says to me, "I heard
you rap."
and I was like, "I heard you
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you rap."
and I was like, "I heard you
rap."
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and I was like, "I heard you
rap."
so, you know, it wasn't
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rap."
so, you know, it wasn't
a battle, but it was just, like,
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so, you know, it wasn't
a battle, but it was just, like,
a -- it was like a cypher.
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A battle, but it was just, like,
a -- it was like a cypher.
So, you know, they pulled up
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a -- it was like a cypher.
So, you know, they pulled up
a beat and we rhymed with each
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so, you know, they pulled up
a beat and we rhymed with each
other and gipp chimed in, and,
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a beat and we rhymed with each
other and gipp chimed in, and,
you know, I don't even think
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other and gipp chimed in, and,
you know, I don't even think
t-mo was there, but, you know,
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you know, I don't even think
t-mo was there, but, you know,
it was cool, you know what I
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t-mo was there, but, you know,
it was cool, you know what I
mean?
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It was cool, you know what I
mean?
Like, there was a camaraderie
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mean?
Like, there was a camaraderie
there because we all knew each
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like, there was a camaraderie
there because we all knew each
other, and it just so happens
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there because we all knew each
other, and it just so happens
that b and j.D. Started to
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other, and it just so happens
that b and j.D. Started to
manage me after this cypher.
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That b and j.D. Started to
manage me after this cypher.
They ended up taking me over to
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manage me after this cypher.
They ended up taking me over to
the dungeon, but it turns out I
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they ended up taking me over to
the dungeon, but it turns out I
had already been to the dungeon
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the dungeon, but it turns out I
had already been to the dungeon
because of my other friend, call
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had already been to the dungeon
because of my other friend, call
him fat keith.
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Because of my other friend, call
him fat keith.
We're hanging out in the mall --
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him fat keith.
We're hanging out in the mall --
I hung out in greenbriar mall
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we're hanging out in the mall --
I hung out in greenbriar mall
every day after school.
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I hung out in greenbriar mall
every day after school.
I spent almost my entire life in
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every day after school.
I spent almost my entire life in
that mall.
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I spent almost my entire life in
that mall.
We see marqueze ethridge at
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that mall.
We see marqueze ethridge at
the payphone.
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We see marqueze ethridge at
the payphone.
Me and fat keith walk up on him.
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The payphone.
Me and fat keith walk up on him.
They know each other from
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me and fat keith walk up on him.
They know each other from
somewhere.
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They know each other from
somewhere.
"yo, what's up?" blah, blah,
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somewhere.
"yo, what's up?" blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah.
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"yo, what's up?" blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah.
Then, you know, at the time,
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blah, blah, blah.
Then, you know, at the time,
everybody was always, you know,
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then, you know, at the time,
everybody was always, you know,
supporting me on some, "yo,
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everybody was always, you know,
supporting me on some, "yo,
my man rap.
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Supporting me on some, "yo,
my man rap.
Check him out."
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my man rap.
Check him out."
so we went outside, I rhymed for
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check him out."
so we went outside, I rhymed for
him and I sang for him, and he
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so we went outside, I rhymed for
him and I sang for him, and he
was like, "I like your singing
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him and I sang for him, and he
was like, "I like your singing
more than your rapping."
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was like, "I like your singing
more than your rapping."
he said, "as a matter of fact, I
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more than your rapping."
he said, "as a matter of fact, I
was on the phone trying to call
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he said, "as a matter of fact, I
was on the phone trying to call
over to the dungeon."
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was on the phone trying to call
over to the dungeon."
he was like, "I know they
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over to the dungeon."
he was like, "I know they
there."
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he was like, "I know they
there."
keith was like, "oh, I'll give
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there."
keith was like, "oh, I'll give
you a ride over there."
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keith was like, "oh, I'll give
you a ride over there."
so we end up taking him over
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you a ride over there."
so we end up taking him over
there.
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So we end up taking him over
there.
Oh, man.
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There.
Oh, man.
I'm just missing out on too many
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oh, man.
I'm just missing out on too many
parts of this story, yo.
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I'm just missing out on too many
parts of this story, yo.
Okay, let me try to add on to
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parts of this story, yo.
Okay, let me try to add on to
that.
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Okay, let me try to add on to
that.
Me and andre 3000 also went to
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that.
Me and andre 3000 also went to
elementary school together,
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me and andre 3000 also went to
elementary school together,
and then I didn't see him for
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elementary school together,
and then I didn't see him for
years.
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And then I didn't see him for
years.
I didn't see him again until
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years.
I didn't see him again until
the 11th grade.
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I didn't see him again until
the 11th grade.
We had both dropped out of
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the 11th grade.
We had both dropped out of
high school and we were going to
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we had both dropped out of
high school and we were going to
what's called an alternative
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high school and we were going to
what's called an alternative
school -- frank mcclarin
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what's called an alternative
school -- frank mcclarin
alternative high school in
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school -- frank mcclarin
alternative high school in
college park, atlanta, georgia.
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Alternative high school in
college park, atlanta, georgia.
So we picked up like a day
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college park, atlanta, georgia.
So we picked up like a day
hadn't gone by, and I introduced
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so we picked up like a day
hadn't gone by, and I introduced
him to my friends d.J. Wayne,
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hadn't gone by, and I introduced
him to my friends d.J. Wayne,
god bless the dead,
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him to my friends d.J. Wayne,
god bless the dead,
emcee alley al, etcetera.
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God bless the dead,
emcee alley al, etcetera.
And I was in a crew called
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emcee alley al, etcetera.
And I was in a crew called
the ga style.
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And I was in a crew called
the ga style.
Al ends up being the father of
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the ga style.
Al ends up being the father of
my two nieces.
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Al ends up being the father of
my two nieces.
So he's literally a brother to
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my two nieces.
So he's literally a brother to
me.
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So he's literally a brother to
me.
I introduced andre 3000
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me.
I introduced andre 3000
and big boi, antoine patton, to
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I introduced andre 3000
and big boi, antoine patton, to
them, you know, and they
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and big boi, antoine patton, to
them, you know, and they
produced their first demo.
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Them, you know, and they
produced their first demo.
Anyway, it didn't work, and I
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produced their first demo.
Anyway, it didn't work, and I
remember him coming back to
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anyway, it didn't work, and I
remember him coming back to
school one day saying like, "yo,
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remember him coming back to
school one day saying like, "yo,
we met these other dudes, blah,
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school one day saying like, "yo,
we met these other dudes, blah,
blah, blah, organized noise."
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we met these other dudes, blah,
blah, blah, organized noise."
you know, they got -- they got
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blah, blah, organized noise."
you know, they got -- they got
some [bleep], you know what I'm
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you know, they got -- they got
some [bleep], you know what I'm
saying?
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Some [bleep], you know what I'm
saying?
So anyway, fast forward.
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Saying?
So anyway, fast forward.
The dungeon is where he was
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so anyway, fast forward.
The dungeon is where he was
talking about, and we take
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the dungeon is where he was
talking about, and we take
marqueze ethridge over there.
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Talking about, and we take
marqueze ethridge over there.
Sleepy brown is sitting in there
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marqueze ethridge over there.
Sleepy brown is sitting in there
by himself at the time.
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Sleepy brown is sitting in there
by himself at the time.
I end up singing for him and
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by himself at the time.
I end up singing for him and
rapping for him.
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I end up singing for him and
rapping for him.
He said, "I like your singing
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rapping for him.
He said, "I like your singing
better than your rapping."
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he said, "I like your singing
better than your rapping."
you know. I'm like, "ok."
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better than your rapping."
you know. I'm like, "ok."
then here comes rico wade, walks
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you know. I'm like, "ok."
then here comes rico wade, walks
in the door with big and dre.
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Then here comes rico wade, walks
in the door with big and dre.
And dre screams out, "that's
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in the door with big and dre.
And dre screams out, "that's
my homeboy, ceelo, who I was
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and dre screams out, "that's
my homeboy, ceelo, who I was
telling you about."
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my homeboy, ceelo, who I was
telling you about."
I go back over there a second
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telling you about."
I go back over there a second
time with killer b and j.D., and
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I go back over there a second
time with killer b and j.D., and
everybody's over there this
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time with killer b and j.D., and
everybody's over there this
time.
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Everybody's over there this
time.
So they felt like they was --
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time.
So they felt like they was --
you know, they was kind of
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so they felt like they was --
you know, they was kind of
trying to show me around as
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you know, they was kind of
trying to show me around as
management, you know, almost to
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trying to show me around as
management, you know, almost to
say, like, "yeah, we turning you
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management, you know, almost to
say, like, "yeah, we turning you
on, taking you to new places,
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say, like, "yeah, we turning you
on, taking you to new places,
new faces."
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on, taking you to new places,
new faces."
so we went over there and gipp
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new faces."
so we went over there and gipp
and t-mo and khujo and dre and
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so we went over there and gipp
and t-mo and khujo and dre and
everybody was over there.
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And t-mo and khujo and dre and
everybody was over there.
I'm like, "oh, ok, I've been
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everybody was over there.
I'm like, "oh, ok, I've been
over here before."
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I'm like, "oh, ok, I've been
over here before."
so to make a long story short, I
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over here before."
so to make a long story short, I
started to live over there.
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So to make a long story short, I
started to live over there.
I was living with my auntie at
355
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started to live over there.
I was living with my auntie at
the time.
356
00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:41,766
I was living with my auntie at
the time.
High school dropout, wasn't
357
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the time.
High school dropout, wasn't
doing much, didn't have nothing
358
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high school dropout, wasn't
doing much, didn't have nothing
going on.
359
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Doing much, didn't have nothing
going on.
A statistic waiting to happen,
360
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going on.
A statistic waiting to happen,
and I got to just say in short
361
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a statistic waiting to happen,
and I got to just say in short
that rico wade, the generosity,
362
00:11:51,878 --> 00:11:53,411
and I got to just say in short
that rico wade, the generosity,
the selflessness, you know what
363
00:11:53,413 --> 00:11:53,712
that rico wade, the generosity,
the selflessness, you know what
I
364
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the selflessness, you know what
I
mean, and the foresight of this
365
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I
mean, and the foresight of this
man literally saved not only my
366
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mean, and the foresight of this
man literally saved not only my
life, but the life of many
367
00:11:59,319 --> 00:12:01,553
man literally saved not only my
life, but the life of many
others, because he allowed us to
368
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life, but the life of many
others, because he allowed us to
sleep there on his floor till we
369
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others, because he allowed us to
sleep there on his floor till we
got on our feet.
370
00:12:05,025 --> 00:12:06,458
Sleep there on his floor till we
got on our feet.
And that is the story of
371
00:12:06,460 --> 00:12:08,293
got on our feet.
And that is the story of
the dungeon, you know, in a big,
372
00:12:08,295 --> 00:12:08,727
and that is the story of
the dungeon, you know, in a big,
old, fat nutshell.
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>> green: My understanding of
being an artist at that time was
really vague.
374
00:12:15,102 --> 00:12:17,602
Being an artist at that time was
really vague.
I just felt very fortunate.
375
00:12:17,604 --> 00:12:19,838
Really vague.
I just felt very fortunate.
I finally had that camaraderie,
376
00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,040
I just felt very fortunate.
I finally had that camaraderie,
that brotherhood, that village
377
00:12:22,042 --> 00:12:23,608
I finally had that camaraderie,
that brotherhood, that village
to be a part of that was very
378
00:12:23,610 --> 00:12:25,110
that brotherhood, that village
to be a part of that was very
supportive and encouraging.
379
00:12:25,112 --> 00:12:26,578
To be a part of that was very
supportive and encouraging.
Although it was a large,
380
00:12:26,580 --> 00:12:28,313
supportive and encouraging.
Although it was a large,
collective effort, we were all
381
00:12:28,315 --> 00:12:29,981
although it was a large,
collective effort, we were all
still individuals, so I felt
382
00:12:29,983 --> 00:12:31,816
collective effort, we were all
still individuals, so I felt
surrounded by talent and
383
00:12:31,818 --> 00:12:33,918
still individuals, so I felt
surrounded by talent and
perspective, and just people,
384
00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,254
surrounded by talent and
perspective, and just people,
physically, but I also felt like
385
00:12:36,256 --> 00:12:38,356
perspective, and just people,
physically, but I also felt like
I was the only one there, and I
386
00:12:38,358 --> 00:12:40,492
physically, but I also felt like
I was the only one there, and I
had my own particular skill set
387
00:12:40,494 --> 00:12:42,127
I was the only one there, and I
had my own particular skill set
and lane and I could come in and
388
00:12:42,129 --> 00:12:45,830
had my own particular skill set
and lane and I could come in and
contribute.
389
00:12:45,832 --> 00:12:47,932
And lane and I could come in and
contribute.
I just -- I miss those times.
390
00:12:47,934 --> 00:12:48,967
Contribute.
I just -- I miss those times.
The beginning is always
391
00:12:48,969 --> 00:12:49,267
I just -- I miss those times.
The beginning is always
the best.
392
00:12:52,271 --> 00:12:59,811
♪
>> green: How goodie mob got
together -- we were all
393
00:12:59,813 --> 00:13:01,279
>> green: How goodie mob got
together -- we were all
three separate entities.
394
00:13:01,281 --> 00:13:03,114
Together -- we were all
three separate entities.
I came to the dungeon
395
00:13:03,116 --> 00:13:04,649
three separate entities.
I came to the dungeon
as a solo artist.
396
00:13:04,651 --> 00:13:06,584
I came to the dungeon
as a solo artist.
Big gipp had just recently
397
00:13:06,586 --> 00:13:08,686
as a solo artist.
Big gipp had just recently
parted ways with his original
398
00:13:08,688 --> 00:13:10,054
big gipp had just recently
parted ways with his original
group, the east point
399
00:13:10,056 --> 00:13:10,889
parted ways with his original
group, the east point
chain gang.
400
00:13:10,891 --> 00:13:12,423
Group, the east point
chain gang.
The success of the outkast
401
00:13:12,425 --> 00:13:14,225
chain gang.
The success of the outkast
debut album, "southernplayalist-
402
00:13:14,227 --> 00:13:15,260
the success of the outkast
debut album, "southernplayalist-
icadillacmuzik,"
403
00:13:15,262 --> 00:13:17,195
debut album, "southernplayalist-
icadillacmuzik,"
was like a phenomenon because it
404
00:13:17,197 --> 00:13:18,830
icadillacmuzik,"
was like a phenomenon because it
was the first of its kind.
405
00:13:18,832 --> 00:13:19,998
Was like a phenomenon because it
was the first of its kind.
It really gave identity to
406
00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,801
was the first of its kind.
It really gave identity to
the south and to atlanta, and we
407
00:13:22,803 --> 00:13:24,702
it really gave identity to
the south and to atlanta, and we
were next up.
408
00:13:24,704 --> 00:13:26,604
The south and to atlanta, and we
were next up.
But there was a bit of a dilemma
409
00:13:26,606 --> 00:13:30,642
were next up.
But there was a bit of a dilemma
on who exactly would be next.
410
00:13:30,644 --> 00:13:32,410
But there was a bit of a dilemma
on who exactly would be next.
It was the -- again,
411
00:13:32,412 --> 00:13:33,945
on who exactly would be next.
It was the -- again,
the foresight and
412
00:13:33,947 --> 00:13:35,847
it was the -- again,
the foresight and
the practicality of --
413
00:13:35,849 --> 00:13:37,115
the foresight and
the practicality of --
and the common sense of
414
00:13:37,117 --> 00:13:38,116
the practicality of --
and the common sense of
rico wade, again.
415
00:13:38,118 --> 00:13:39,551
And the common sense of
rico wade, again.
I just got to give so much
416
00:13:39,553 --> 00:13:41,219
rico wade, again.
I just got to give so much
credit to him because it was his
417
00:13:41,221 --> 00:13:43,221
I just got to give so much
credit to him because it was his
idea to put us all in a group
418
00:13:43,223 --> 00:13:45,356
credit to him because it was his
idea to put us all in a group
together, really similar to the
419
00:13:45,358 --> 00:13:48,993
idea to put us all in a group
together, really similar to the
wu-tang, you know, approach, in
420
00:13:48,995 --> 00:13:51,696
together, really similar to the
wu-tang, you know, approach, in
the effort to get us all out at
421
00:13:51,698 --> 00:13:53,131
wu-tang, you know, approach, in
the effort to get us all out at
the same time.
422
00:13:53,133 --> 00:13:54,499
The effort to get us all out at
the same time.
I guess pretty much the rest was
423
00:13:54,501 --> 00:13:54,766
the same time.
I guess pretty much the rest was
history.
424
00:13:59,338 --> 00:14:03,608
>> green: Legend has it that
I was supposed to be the third
member of outkast, and yes,
425
00:14:03,610 --> 00:14:05,510
I was supposed to be the third
member of outkast, and yes,
there's some truth to that.
426
00:14:05,512 --> 00:14:07,011
Member of outkast, and yes,
there's some truth to that.
We talked about it really
427
00:14:07,013 --> 00:14:08,746
there's some truth to that.
We talked about it really
casually, maybe once or twice.
428
00:14:08,748 --> 00:14:13,718
We talked about it really
casually, maybe once or twice.
The notion came from me, dre,
429
00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,855
casually, maybe once or twice.
The notion came from me, dre,
and big are all the same age.
430
00:14:16,857 --> 00:14:19,090
The notion came from me, dre,
and big are all the same age.
So there's that connection
431
00:14:19,092 --> 00:14:21,125
and big are all the same age.
So there's that connection
there, and also, on one
432
00:14:21,127 --> 00:14:25,563
so there's that connection
there, and also, on one
occasion, I had to stand in
433
00:14:25,565 --> 00:14:26,297
there, and also, on one
occasion, I had to stand in
for big boi.
434
00:14:26,299 --> 00:14:27,932
Occasion, I had to stand in
for big boi.
We was doing like a cable access
435
00:14:27,934 --> 00:14:31,536
for big boi.
We was doing like a cable access
show that came to frank mcclarin
436
00:14:31,538 --> 00:14:32,837
we was doing like a cable access
show that came to frank mcclarin
alternative school.
437
00:14:32,839 --> 00:14:33,838
Show that came to frank mcclarin
alternative school.
We went for it.
438
00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,540
Alternative school.
We went for it.
So I just don't think big was
439
00:14:35,542 --> 00:14:37,408
we went for it.
So I just don't think big was
available to do it that day, and
440
00:14:37,410 --> 00:14:40,078
so I just don't think big was
available to do it that day, and
at that time, you know, big's
441
00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,747
available to do it that day, and
at that time, you know, big's
family was really stern about
442
00:14:42,749 --> 00:14:45,049
at that time, you know, big's
family was really stern about
him, you know, excelling
443
00:14:45,051 --> 00:14:46,484
family was really stern about
him, you know, excelling
academically.
444
00:14:46,486 --> 00:14:47,919
Him, you know, excelling
academically.
You know, me and dre were kind
445
00:14:47,921 --> 00:14:49,454
academically.
You know, me and dre were kind
of like the misfits, and we both
446
00:14:49,456 --> 00:14:51,155
you know, me and dre were kind
of like the misfits, and we both
had dropped out of school,
447
00:14:51,157 --> 00:14:53,024
of like the misfits, and we both
had dropped out of school,
you know, in trying to pursue
448
00:14:53,026 --> 00:14:55,393
had dropped out of school,
you know, in trying to pursue
art full time.
449
00:14:55,395 --> 00:14:57,262
You know, in trying to pursue
art full time.
But big, people was like,
450
00:14:57,264 --> 00:14:58,630
art full time.
But big, people was like,
"uh-uh, partner."
451
00:14:58,632 --> 00:14:59,931
but big, people was like,
"uh-uh, partner."
so that's kind of what happened,
452
00:14:59,933 --> 00:15:00,932
"uh-uh, partner."
so that's kind of what happened,
was almost kind of like
453
00:15:00,934 --> 00:15:01,466
so that's kind of what happened,
was almost kind of like
a default.
454
00:15:01,468 --> 00:15:03,468
Was almost kind of like
a default.
And then, you know, we discussed
455
00:15:03,470 --> 00:15:05,370
a default.
And then, you know, we discussed
maybe the option of us kind of
456
00:15:05,372 --> 00:15:07,105
and then, you know, we discussed
maybe the option of us kind of
being a group together when
457
00:15:07,107 --> 00:15:08,840
maybe the option of us kind of
being a group together when
everything was still taking
458
00:15:08,842 --> 00:15:10,742
being a group together when
everything was still taking
shape, but that didn't happen.
459
00:15:10,744 --> 00:15:12,477
Everything was still taking
shape, but that didn't happen.
It was casual because we're all
460
00:15:12,479 --> 00:15:14,245
shape, but that didn't happen.
It was casual because we're all
cool with each other, but in my
461
00:15:14,247 --> 00:15:15,980
it was casual because we're all
cool with each other, but in my
personal opinion, I don't think
462
00:15:15,982 --> 00:15:17,248
cool with each other, but in my
personal opinion, I don't think
it would have worked.
463
00:15:17,250 --> 00:15:18,249
Personal opinion, I don't think
it would have worked.
It probably -- it would have
464
00:15:18,251 --> 00:15:18,816
it would have worked.
It probably -- it would have
been too much.
465
00:15:18,818 --> 00:15:19,951
It probably -- it would have
been too much.
Goodie mob needed me just like I
466
00:15:19,953 --> 00:15:21,052
been too much.
Goodie mob needed me just like I
needed goodie mob, you know what
467
00:15:21,054 --> 00:15:21,419
goodie mob needed me just like I
needed goodie mob, you know what
I mean?
468
00:15:21,421 --> 00:15:23,154
Needed goodie mob, you know what
I mean?
Outkast is outkast, you know, it
469
00:15:23,156 --> 00:15:24,222
I mean?
Outkast is outkast, you know, it
is what it is now.
470
00:15:24,224 --> 00:15:25,423
Outkast is outkast, you know, it
is what it is now.
But yup, that's true.
471
00:15:25,425 --> 00:15:27,926
Is what it is now.
But yup, that's true.
Goodie mob's first break was
472
00:15:27,928 --> 00:15:30,228
but yup, that's true.
Goodie mob's first break was
the features on outkast's
473
00:15:30,230 --> 00:15:31,796
goodie mob's first break was
the features on outkast's
southernplayalisticadillacmuzik,
474
00:15:31,798 --> 00:15:34,532
the features on outkast's
southernplayalisticadillacmuzik,
their debut album in 1994.
475
00:15:34,534 --> 00:15:36,034
Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik,
their debut album in 1994.
Myself and big gipp were
476
00:15:36,036 --> 00:15:37,568
their debut album in 1994.
Myself and big gipp were
featured on a song called
477
00:15:37,570 --> 00:15:39,470
myself and big gipp were
featured on a song called
"get up, get out," and khujo and
478
00:15:39,472 --> 00:15:41,406
featured on a song called
"get up, get out," and khujo and
t-mo of goodie mob were featured
479
00:15:41,408 --> 00:15:42,573
"get up, get out," and khujo and
t-mo of goodie mob were featured
on the song called
480
00:15:42,575 --> 00:15:43,808
t-mo of goodie mob were featured
on the song called
"call of the wild."
481
00:15:43,810 --> 00:15:45,677
on the song called
"call of the wild."
and the success of outkast that
482
00:15:45,679 --> 00:15:50,114
"call of the wild."
and the success of outkast that
year was just -- it was amazing.
483
00:15:50,116 --> 00:15:52,550
And the success of outkast that
year was just -- it was amazing.
In atlanta, you had shy d,
484
00:15:52,552 --> 00:15:55,453
year was just -- it was amazing.
In atlanta, you had shy d,
kilo, hard boys, damage, you
485
00:15:55,455 --> 00:15:56,854
in atlanta, you had shy d,
kilo, hard boys, damage, you
know what I mean?
486
00:15:56,856 --> 00:15:59,123
Kilo, hard boys, damage, you
know what I mean?
Raheem the dream, ghetto mafia,
487
00:15:59,125 --> 00:16:02,026
know what I mean?
Raheem the dream, ghetto mafia,
you got arrested development,
488
00:16:02,028 --> 00:16:03,561
raheem the dream, ghetto mafia,
you got arrested development,
kriss kross.
489
00:16:03,563 --> 00:16:05,797
You got arrested development,
kriss kross.
But for some reason, outkast
490
00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:08,166
kriss kross.
But for some reason, outkast
seemed to galvanize, you know,
491
00:16:08,168 --> 00:16:11,202
but for some reason, outkast
seemed to galvanize, you know,
what everyone embraced as their
492
00:16:11,204 --> 00:16:12,403
seemed to galvanize, you know,
what everyone embraced as their
identity.
493
00:16:12,405 --> 00:16:14,005
What everyone embraced as their
identity.
Like, that's what we look like,
494
00:16:14,007 --> 00:16:15,173
identity.
Like, that's what we look like,
you know what I mean?
495
00:16:15,175 --> 00:16:16,507
Like, that's what we look like,
you know what I mean?
Like, outkast, that's us.
496
00:16:16,509 --> 00:16:18,476
You know what I mean?
Like, outkast, that's us.
Goodie mob was just the --
497
00:16:18,478 --> 00:16:20,578
like, outkast, that's us.
Goodie mob was just the --
the groundwork and the heavy
498
00:16:20,580 --> 00:16:21,412
goodie mob was just the --
the groundwork and the heavy
lifting.
499
00:16:21,414 --> 00:16:23,414
The groundwork and the heavy
lifting.
So it was our politics and it
500
00:16:23,416 --> 00:16:25,416
lifting.
So it was our politics and it
was our opinions about church
501
00:16:25,418 --> 00:16:26,284
so it was our politics and it
was our opinions about church
and state.
502
00:16:26,286 --> 00:16:28,119
Was our opinions about church
and state.
We are born and raised and
503
00:16:28,121 --> 00:16:30,288
and state.
We are born and raised and
reared by a city of civil rights
504
00:16:30,290 --> 00:16:32,090
we are born and raised and
reared by a city of civil rights
activists, and so much has
505
00:16:32,092 --> 00:16:33,858
reared by a city of civil rights
activists, and so much has
transpired right there --
506
00:16:33,860 --> 00:16:35,526
activists, and so much has
transpired right there --
hosea williams, you know,
507
00:16:35,528 --> 00:16:36,995
transpired right there --
hosea williams, you know,
ralph david abernathy,
508
00:16:36,997 --> 00:16:38,329
hosea williams, you know,
ralph david abernathy,
martin luther king,
509
00:16:38,331 --> 00:16:39,864
ralph david abernathy,
martin luther king,
andrew young, you know,
510
00:16:39,866 --> 00:16:41,699
martin luther king,
andrew young, you know,
julian bond, andrew jackson.
511
00:16:41,701 --> 00:16:43,267
Andrew young, you know,
julian bond, andrew jackson.
>> never shall I let you down.
512
00:16:43,269 --> 00:16:45,970
Julian bond, andrew jackson.
>> never shall I let you down.
>> so many people.
513
00:16:45,972 --> 00:16:49,173
>> never shall I let you down.
>> so many people.
You know, we were carrying on
514
00:16:49,175 --> 00:16:50,842
>> so many people.
You know, we were carrying on
a legacy, a tradition of
515
00:16:50,844 --> 00:16:52,577
you know, we were carrying on
a legacy, a tradition of
telling black excellence.
516
00:16:52,579 --> 00:16:54,178
A legacy, a tradition of
telling black excellence.
And so that was imperative and
517
00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:55,513
telling black excellence.
And so that was imperative and
very important to us, to
518
00:16:55,515 --> 00:16:57,181
and so that was imperative and
very important to us, to
represent the city in the right
519
00:16:57,183 --> 00:16:57,682
very important to us, to
represent the city in the right
light.
520
00:16:57,684 --> 00:16:59,050
Represent the city in the right
light.
Well, I felt like we had
521
00:16:59,052 --> 00:17:00,485
light.
Well, I felt like we had
a successful run -- three
522
00:17:00,487 --> 00:17:01,953
well, I felt like we had
a successful run -- three
consecutive gold albums as
523
00:17:01,955 --> 00:17:03,621
a successful run -- three
consecutive gold albums as
goodie mob, and it wasn't even
524
00:17:03,623 --> 00:17:05,223
consecutive gold albums as
goodie mob, and it wasn't even
the plan or intent, you know?
525
00:17:05,225 --> 00:17:06,858
Goodie mob, and it wasn't even
the plan or intent, you know?
We just had been fortunate
526
00:17:06,860 --> 00:17:08,760
the plan or intent, you know?
We just had been fortunate
enough to have the first album.
527
00:17:08,762 --> 00:17:10,728
We just had been fortunate
enough to have the first album.
To this day, people still love
528
00:17:10,730 --> 00:17:12,196
enough to have the first album.
To this day, people still love
goodie mob, you know?
529
00:17:12,198 --> 00:17:13,731
To this day, people still love
goodie mob, you know?
But I did get to a point of
530
00:17:13,733 --> 00:17:15,533
goodie mob, you know?
But I did get to a point of
where I wanted to express myself
531
00:17:15,535 --> 00:17:17,168
but I did get to a point of
where I wanted to express myself
a little bit more, and here's
532
00:17:17,170 --> 00:17:18,870
where I wanted to express myself
a little bit more, and here's
this solo album, "ceelo green
533
00:17:18,872 --> 00:17:20,671
a little bit more, and here's
this solo album, "ceelo green
and his perfect imperfections."
534
00:17:20,673 --> 00:17:23,674
this solo album, "ceelo green
and his perfect imperfections."
and, you know, first single is
535
00:17:23,676 --> 00:17:25,410
and his perfect imperfections."
and, you know, first single is
called "closet freak."
536
00:17:25,412 --> 00:17:29,547
and, you know, first single is
called "closet freak."
so for me to come out and
537
00:17:29,549 --> 00:17:32,116
called "closet freak."
so for me to come out and
express yet another or pull back
538
00:17:32,118 --> 00:17:34,519
so for me to come out and
express yet another or pull back
another layer of myself and be
539
00:17:34,521 --> 00:17:36,187
express yet another or pull back
another layer of myself and be
like, "yo, I like costume and
540
00:17:36,189 --> 00:17:37,255
another layer of myself and be
like, "yo, I like costume and
I like pageantry.
541
00:17:37,257 --> 00:17:38,990
Like, "yo, I like costume and
I like pageantry.
I like, you know, staging,
542
00:17:38,992 --> 00:17:41,092
I like pageantry.
I like, you know, staging,
production, you know, and, like,
543
00:17:41,094 --> 00:17:41,759
I like, you know, staging,
production, you know, and, like,
color."
544
00:17:41,761 --> 00:17:43,327
production, you know, and, like,
color."
I just felt like that was just
545
00:17:43,329 --> 00:17:44,896
color."
I just felt like that was just
more bravery, so I felt like it
546
00:17:44,898 --> 00:17:46,464
I just felt like that was just
more bravery, so I felt like it
was all in context, basically,
547
00:17:46,466 --> 00:17:47,799
more bravery, so I felt like it
was all in context, basically,
you know what I'm saying?
548
00:17:47,801 --> 00:17:49,233
Was all in context, basically,
you know what I'm saying?
So I didn't think that it was
549
00:17:49,235 --> 00:17:49,667
you know what I'm saying?
So I didn't think that it was
wild.
550
00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:51,002
So I didn't think that it was
wild.
You know, in retrospect, I
551
00:17:51,004 --> 00:17:52,370
wild.
You know, in retrospect, I
realize it was like, "wow."
552
00:17:52,372 --> 00:17:53,871
you know, in retrospect, I
realize it was like, "wow."
but again, I had seen somebody
553
00:17:53,873 --> 00:17:55,239
realize it was like, "wow."
but again, I had seen somebody
do it, you know, and if you
554
00:17:55,241 --> 00:17:56,774
but again, I had seen somebody
do it, you know, and if you
really listen to george clinton
555
00:17:56,776 --> 00:17:58,276
do it, you know, and if you
really listen to george clinton
and the parliament-funkadelic,
556
00:17:58,278 --> 00:17:59,844
really listen to george clinton
and the parliament-funkadelic,
you know that they were dropping
557
00:17:59,846 --> 00:18:01,345
and the parliament-funkadelic,
you know that they were dropping
jewels in that music, as well.
558
00:18:01,347 --> 00:18:02,413
You know that they were dropping
jewels in that music, as well.
So I felt like it was,
559
00:18:02,415 --> 00:18:03,781
jewels in that music, as well.
So I felt like it was,
you know -- it was palatable,
560
00:18:03,783 --> 00:18:04,816
so I felt like it was,
you know -- it was palatable,
you know what I mean?
561
00:18:04,818 --> 00:18:05,983
You know -- it was palatable,
you know what I mean?
And I feel like it was a
562
00:18:05,985 --> 00:18:07,452
you know what I mean?
And I feel like it was a
secondary, you know what I mean?
563
00:18:07,454 --> 00:18:08,986
And I feel like it was a
secondary, you know what I mean?
But we were doing something that
564
00:18:08,988 --> 00:18:10,521
secondary, you know what I mean?
But we were doing something that
had been done, but for the first
565
00:18:10,523 --> 00:18:11,889
but we were doing something that
had been done, but for the first
time for our generation, you
566
00:18:11,891 --> 00:18:13,324
had been done, but for the first
time for our generation, you
know, and of course, you know,
567
00:18:13,326 --> 00:18:14,492
time for our generation, you
know, and of course, you know,
george clinton, he also
568
00:18:14,494 --> 00:18:15,993
know, and of course, you know,
george clinton, he also
christened the dungeon family as
569
00:18:15,995 --> 00:18:17,528
george clinton, he also
christened the dungeon family as
the young parliament-funkadelic.
570
00:18:17,530 --> 00:18:19,063
Christened the dungeon family as
the young parliament-funkadelic.
So I felt like we were dutified,
571
00:18:19,065 --> 00:18:20,465
the young parliament-funkadelic.
So I felt like we were dutified,
and we did it on as a badge of
572
00:18:20,467 --> 00:18:20,932
so I felt like we were dutified,
and we did it on as a badge of
honor.
573
00:18:20,934 --> 00:18:22,366
And we did it on as a badge of
honor.
We were dealing with live music
574
00:18:22,368 --> 00:18:24,335
honor.
We were dealing with live music
and live instrumentation, so the
575
00:18:24,337 --> 00:18:25,837
we were dealing with live music
and live instrumentation, so the
music was alive, it was
576
00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:27,738
and live instrumentation, so the
music was alive, it was
vitality, you know what I mean?
577
00:18:27,740 --> 00:18:30,007
Music was alive, it was
vitality, you know what I mean?
And, you know, it was really
578
00:18:30,009 --> 00:18:32,844
vitality, you know what I mean?
And, you know, it was really
about signifying, you know, us
579
00:18:32,846 --> 00:18:33,244
and, you know, it was really
about signifying, you know, us
ourselves, yeah.
580
00:18:35,347 --> 00:18:42,787
♪
>> green: Gnarls barkley was yet
another layer I pulled back
581
00:18:42,789 --> 00:18:45,656
>> green: Gnarls barkley was yet
another layer I pulled back
at the right time.
582
00:18:45,658 --> 00:18:49,127
Another layer I pulled back
at the right time.
You know, when I -- and for
583
00:18:49,129 --> 00:18:50,995
at the right time.
You know, when I -- and for
the record, I never left
584
00:18:50,997 --> 00:18:53,064
you know, when I -- and for
the record, I never left
goodie mob, I only extended
585
00:18:53,066 --> 00:18:53,831
the record, I never left
goodie mob, I only extended
myself.
586
00:18:53,833 --> 00:18:56,200
Goodie mob, I only extended
myself.
I met danger mouse when we were
587
00:18:56,202 --> 00:18:58,603
myself.
I met danger mouse when we were
all performing as dungeon family
588
00:18:58,605 --> 00:19:00,872
I met danger mouse when we were
all performing as dungeon family
at uga, in athens, georgia, at
589
00:19:00,874 --> 00:19:02,840
all performing as dungeon family
at uga, in athens, georgia, at
the university of georgia.
590
00:19:02,842 --> 00:19:05,243
At uga, in athens, georgia, at
the university of georgia.
It was pouring down raining, and
591
00:19:05,245 --> 00:19:07,311
the university of georgia.
It was pouring down raining, and
this dude walks up on me in
592
00:19:07,313 --> 00:19:09,614
it was pouring down raining, and
this dude walks up on me in
the rain and gives me his demo,
593
00:19:09,616 --> 00:19:10,448
this dude walks up on me in
the rain and gives me his demo,
or a cd.
594
00:19:10,450 --> 00:19:12,583
The rain and gives me his demo,
or a cd.
He said, "yo, do you mind if
595
00:19:12,585 --> 00:19:14,719
or a cd.
He said, "yo, do you mind if
I play you a couple tracks?"
596
00:19:14,721 --> 00:19:16,521
he said, "yo, do you mind if
I play you a couple tracks?"
and I was like, "sure."
597
00:19:16,523 --> 00:19:18,756
I play you a couple tracks?"
and I was like, "sure."
so he started playing all this
598
00:19:18,758 --> 00:19:19,490
and I was like, "sure."
so he started playing all this
stuff.
599
00:19:19,492 --> 00:19:21,859
So he started playing all this
stuff.
I felt it instantaneously, and I
600
00:19:21,861 --> 00:19:23,227
stuff.
I felt it instantaneously, and I
was like, "ooh."
601
00:19:23,229 --> 00:19:25,229
I felt it instantaneously, and I
was like, "ooh."
I said, "yo, we should get
602
00:19:25,231 --> 00:19:26,430
was like, "ooh."
I said, "yo, we should get
together, man.
603
00:19:26,432 --> 00:19:28,699
I said, "yo, we should get
together, man.
I want to use a couple of your
604
00:19:28,701 --> 00:19:29,534
together, man.
I want to use a couple of your
tracks."
605
00:19:29,536 --> 00:19:31,836
I want to use a couple of your
tracks."
and he said, "well, um, I don't
606
00:19:31,838 --> 00:19:33,971
tracks."
and he said, "well, um, I don't
make tracks, I make albums."
607
00:19:33,973 --> 00:19:36,307
and he said, "well, um, I don't
make tracks, I make albums."
[ laughs ] and I was like, "ok,
608
00:19:36,309 --> 00:19:38,376
make tracks, I make albums."
[ laughs ] and I was like, "ok,
homie, let's make an album,
609
00:19:38,378 --> 00:19:39,076
[ laughs ] and I was like, "ok,
homie, let's make an album,
then."
610
00:19:39,078 --> 00:19:41,445
homie, let's make an album,
then."
but later on in an interview, he
611
00:19:41,447 --> 00:19:43,848
then."
but later on in an interview, he
told me that he was bluffing me,
612
00:19:43,850 --> 00:19:46,017
but later on in an interview, he
told me that he was bluffing me,
just to see what I would say.
613
00:19:46,019 --> 00:19:48,286
Told me that he was bluffing me,
just to see what I would say.
So anyway, we ended up getting
614
00:19:48,288 --> 00:19:50,288
just to see what I would say.
So anyway, we ended up getting
together, and we had about
615
00:19:50,290 --> 00:19:51,756
so anyway, we ended up getting
together, and we had about
8 days in atlanta.
616
00:19:51,758 --> 00:19:53,891
Together, and we had about
8 days in atlanta.
He was like, "let's just try
617
00:19:53,893 --> 00:19:54,992
8 days in atlanta.
He was like, "let's just try
some stuff."
618
00:19:54,994 --> 00:19:57,195
he was like, "let's just try
some stuff."
so he played about 10 things,
619
00:19:57,197 --> 00:19:59,564
some stuff."
so he played about 10 things,
so about 5 or 6 of the things he
620
00:19:59,566 --> 00:20:01,766
so he played about 10 things,
so about 5 or 6 of the things he
played for me in that initial
621
00:20:01,768 --> 00:20:03,501
so about 5 or 6 of the things he
played for me in that initial
session ended up being
622
00:20:03,503 --> 00:20:05,670
played for me in that initial
session ended up being
gnarls barkley's debut album,
623
00:20:05,672 --> 00:20:07,038
session ended up being
gnarls barkley's debut album,
"st. Elsewhere."
624
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,073
gnarls barkley's debut album,
"st. Elsewhere."
and we did a couple other new
625
00:20:09,075 --> 00:20:11,209
"st. Elsewhere."
and we did a couple other new
things, and what people hear is
626
00:20:11,211 --> 00:20:12,176
and we did a couple other new
things, and what people hear is
what it is.
627
00:20:12,178 --> 00:20:14,078
Things, and what people hear is
what it is.
We only did stuff one time.
628
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,315
What it is.
We only did stuff one time.
I sang "crazy" one time.
629
00:20:17,317 --> 00:20:19,617
We only did stuff one time.
I sang "crazy" one time.
A great story about crazy --
630
00:20:19,619 --> 00:20:22,053
I sang "crazy" one time.
A great story about crazy --
he played the beat and it just
631
00:20:22,055 --> 00:20:23,020
a great story about crazy --
he played the beat and it just
comes on.
632
00:20:23,022 --> 00:20:26,857
He played the beat and it just
comes on.
[humming]
633
00:20:26,859 --> 00:20:28,993
comes on.
[humming]
and I was like, "oh, what's
634
00:20:28,995 --> 00:20:29,727
[humming]
and I was like, "oh, what's
that?"
635
00:20:29,729 --> 00:20:31,529
and I was like, "oh, what's
that?"
then somebody started rapping on
636
00:20:31,531 --> 00:20:32,863
that?"
then somebody started rapping on
it, then he cut it off.
637
00:20:32,865 --> 00:20:34,198
Then somebody started rapping on
it, then he cut it off.
He was like, "eh, I don't really
638
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,099
it, then he cut it off.
He was like, "eh, I don't really
like to play that."
639
00:20:35,101 --> 00:20:36,133
he was like, "eh, I don't really
like to play that."
and I'm like, "why not?"
640
00:20:36,135 --> 00:20:37,235
like to play that."
and I'm like, "why not?"
he said, "well, you know,
641
00:20:37,237 --> 00:20:38,569
and I'm like, "why not?"
he said, "well, you know,
somebody did -- and I did to it.
642
00:20:38,571 --> 00:20:39,637
He said, "well, you know,
somebody did -- and I did to it.
I'm kind of jaded by it.
643
00:20:39,639 --> 00:20:40,805
Somebody did -- and I did to it.
I'm kind of jaded by it.
So, like, you know, I don't
644
00:20:40,807 --> 00:20:41,572
I'm kind of jaded by it.
So, like, you know, I don't
really play it."
645
00:20:41,574 --> 00:20:43,140
so, like, you know, I don't
really play it."
I was like, "yo, play that."
646
00:20:43,142 --> 00:20:44,909
really play it."
I was like, "yo, play that."
and it just started to loop, and
647
00:20:44,911 --> 00:20:46,644
I was like, "yo, play that."
and it just started to loop, and
I said -- you know, we just put
648
00:20:46,646 --> 00:20:47,511
and it just started to loop, and
I said -- you know, we just put
it on repeat.
649
00:20:47,513 --> 00:20:49,780
I said -- you know, we just put
it on repeat.
We had a conversation about all
650
00:20:49,782 --> 00:20:51,682
it on repeat.
We had a conversation about all
of our, you know, heroes,
651
00:20:51,684 --> 00:20:53,751
we had a conversation about all
of our, you know, heroes,
whether it was jim morrison,
652
00:20:53,753 --> 00:20:55,620
of our, you know, heroes,
whether it was jim morrison,
jimi hendrix, janis joplin,
653
00:20:55,622 --> 00:20:57,588
whether it was jim morrison,
jimi hendrix, janis joplin,
whomever -- iggy pop -- and we
654
00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:59,190
jimi hendrix, janis joplin,
whomever -- iggy pop -- and we
were just talking about
655
00:20:59,192 --> 00:21:01,025
whomever -- iggy pop -- and we
were just talking about
the people who really lived
656
00:21:01,027 --> 00:21:02,660
were just talking about
the people who really lived
the rock'n'roll fantasy,
657
00:21:02,662 --> 00:21:04,795
the people who really lived
the rock'n'roll fantasy,
you know, and drove it down into
658
00:21:04,797 --> 00:21:05,696
the rock'n'roll fantasy,
you know, and drove it down into
the ground.
659
00:21:05,698 --> 00:21:07,164
You know, and drove it down into
the ground.
You know, whether it's
660
00:21:07,166 --> 00:21:09,033
the ground.
You know, whether it's
sid vicious or whoever it is,
661
00:21:09,035 --> 00:21:09,767
you know, whether it's
sid vicious or whoever it is,
you know.
662
00:21:09,769 --> 00:21:11,402
Sid vicious or whoever it is,
you know.
And I always wanted to be
663
00:21:11,404 --> 00:21:12,937
you know.
And I always wanted to be
committed like that, to
664
00:21:12,939 --> 00:21:14,639
and I always wanted to be
committed like that, to
the death -- not just some
665
00:21:14,641 --> 00:21:16,474
committed like that, to
the death -- not just some
facade, but the real, real --
666
00:21:16,476 --> 00:21:17,575
the death -- not just some
facade, but the real, real --
the real thing.
667
00:21:17,577 --> 00:21:19,577
Facade, but the real, real --
the real thing.
And we were saying to ourselves,
668
00:21:19,579 --> 00:21:21,379
the real thing.
And we were saying to ourselves,
like, "was it crazy for us to
669
00:21:21,381 --> 00:21:23,281
and we were saying to ourselves,
like, "was it crazy for us to
persist or insist on trying to
670
00:21:23,283 --> 00:21:25,149
like, "was it crazy for us to
persist or insist on trying to
be ourselves or be indifferent
671
00:21:25,151 --> 00:21:26,951
persist or insist on trying to
be ourselves or be indifferent
with the larger agenda," you
672
00:21:26,953 --> 00:21:28,119
be ourselves or be indifferent
with the larger agenda," you
know what I mean?
673
00:21:28,121 --> 00:21:29,687
With the larger agenda," you
know what I mean?
Like, you know, or just -- why
674
00:21:29,689 --> 00:21:31,289
know what I mean?
Like, you know, or just -- why
don't we just do something that
675
00:21:31,291 --> 00:21:32,723
like, you know, or just -- why
don't we just do something that
just works, you know what I
676
00:21:32,725 --> 00:21:33,157
don't we just do something that
just works, you know what I
mean?
677
00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:34,825
Just works, you know what I
mean?
We're trying to be so different.
678
00:21:34,827 --> 00:21:36,494
Mean?
We're trying to be so different.
We played -- the instruments of
679
00:21:36,496 --> 00:21:37,995
we're trying to be so different.
We played -- the instruments of
the "crazy" played for about
680
00:21:37,997 --> 00:21:41,666
we played -- the instruments of
the "crazy" played for about
3 or 4 hours, realistically.
681
00:21:41,668 --> 00:21:45,536
The "crazy" played for about
3 or 4 hours, realistically.
I wrote something, and I went
682
00:21:45,538 --> 00:21:47,571
3 or 4 hours, realistically.
I wrote something, and I went
in the booth.
683
00:21:47,573 --> 00:21:48,773
I wrote something, and I went
in the booth.
I said, "I got something."
684
00:21:48,775 --> 00:21:50,041
in the booth.
I said, "I got something."
remember when I told you the
685
00:21:50,043 --> 00:21:51,142
I said, "I got something."
remember when I told you the
beat was just coming on?
686
00:21:51,144 --> 00:21:52,543
Remember when I told you the
beat was just coming on?
[ humming ]
687
00:21:52,545 --> 00:21:54,011
beat was just coming on?
[ humming ]
I was like, "yo, it's coming --
688
00:21:54,013 --> 00:21:54,912
[ humming ]
I was like, "yo, it's coming --
I can't catch it.
689
00:21:54,914 --> 00:21:56,247
I was like, "yo, it's coming --
I can't catch it.
I said, I need a -- count me
690
00:21:56,249 --> 00:21:56,614
I can't catch it.
I said, I need a -- count me
in."
691
00:21:56,616 --> 00:21:59,250
I said, I need a -- count me
in."
so that's where the, "boom,
692
00:21:59,252 --> 00:22:01,152
in."
so that's where the, "boom,
boom, boom, boom."
693
00:22:01,154 --> 00:22:02,086
so that's where the, "boom,
boom, boom, boom."
that's it.
694
00:22:02,088 --> 00:22:03,721
Boom, boom, boom."
that's it.
You know what I mean?
695
00:22:03,723 --> 00:22:05,222
That's it.
You know what I mean?
"and I remember when I lost
696
00:22:05,224 --> 00:22:08,392
you know what I mean?
"and I remember when I lost
my mind.
697
00:22:08,394 --> 00:22:09,994
"and I remember when I lost
my mind.
There was something so pleasant
698
00:22:09,996 --> 00:22:10,961
my mind.
There was something so pleasant
about that place.
699
00:22:10,963 --> 00:22:12,697
There was something so pleasant
about that place.
Even your emotions have an echo
700
00:22:12,699 --> 00:22:13,798
about that place.
Even your emotions have an echo
in so much space."
701
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,534
even your emotions have an echo
in so much space."
you know, that's heavy.
702
00:22:16,536 --> 00:22:18,336
In so much space."
you know, that's heavy.
I love danger mouse because he
703
00:22:18,338 --> 00:22:19,904
you know, that's heavy.
I love danger mouse because he
opened up this session by
704
00:22:19,906 --> 00:22:21,706
I love danger mouse because he
opened up this session by
saying, "ok, so, listen, check
705
00:22:21,708 --> 00:22:22,440
opened up this session by
saying, "ok, so, listen, check
this out.
706
00:22:22,442 --> 00:22:23,674
Saying, "ok, so, listen, check
this out.
We want to do this project.
707
00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:25,042
This out.
We want to do this project.
We got about 8 days to see what
708
00:22:25,044 --> 00:22:26,043
we want to do this project.
We got about 8 days to see what
we can come up with."
709
00:22:26,045 --> 00:22:27,378
we got about 8 days to see what
we can come up with."
he said, "I'm a fan of yours,
710
00:22:27,380 --> 00:22:27,978
we can come up with."
he said, "I'm a fan of yours,
obviously."
711
00:22:27,980 --> 00:22:29,880
he said, "I'm a fan of yours,
obviously."
he said, "I like most of what
712
00:22:29,882 --> 00:22:30,614
obviously."
he said, "I like most of what
you do."
713
00:22:30,616 --> 00:22:32,616
he said, "I like most of what
you do."
he said, "but I noticed there's
714
00:22:32,618 --> 00:22:34,652
you do."
he said, "but I noticed there's
this theme that runs throughout
715
00:22:34,654 --> 00:22:36,654
he said, "but I noticed there's
this theme that runs throughout
your body of work thus far, and
716
00:22:36,656 --> 00:22:38,756
this theme that runs throughout
your body of work thus far, and
it's always you trying to convey
717
00:22:38,758 --> 00:22:40,524
your body of work thus far, and
it's always you trying to convey
a message or give some good
718
00:22:40,526 --> 00:22:42,626
it's always you trying to convey
a message or give some good
advice, or whatever you may call
719
00:22:42,628 --> 00:22:44,295
a message or give some good
advice, or whatever you may call
it or consider it to be."
720
00:22:44,297 --> 00:22:46,230
advice, or whatever you may call
it or consider it to be."
he said, "but anybody trying to
721
00:22:46,232 --> 00:22:48,132
it or consider it to be."
he said, "but anybody trying to
do that much good has probably
722
00:22:48,134 --> 00:22:50,067
he said, "but anybody trying to
do that much good has probably
done an equal amount of bad, if
723
00:22:50,069 --> 00:22:50,868
do that much good has probably
done an equal amount of bad, if
not more."
724
00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:52,336
done an equal amount of bad, if
not more."
he said, "and that's what I want
725
00:22:52,338 --> 00:22:52,903
not more."
he said, "and that's what I want
to hear."
726
00:22:52,905 --> 00:22:56,540
he said, "and that's what I want
to hear."
and I said, "oh." [ laughs ]
727
00:22:56,542 --> 00:22:58,476
to hear."
and I said, "oh." [ laughs ]
you know, so, basically,
728
00:22:58,478 --> 00:23:00,978
and I said, "oh." [ laughs ]
you know, so, basically,
the music he made was miserable,
729
00:23:00,980 --> 00:23:03,381
you know, so, basically,
the music he made was miserable,
and I was just -- it was misery
730
00:23:03,383 --> 00:23:05,416
the music he made was miserable,
and I was just -- it was misery
in company, you know what
731
00:23:05,418 --> 00:23:06,217
and I was just -- it was misery
in company, you know what
I mean?
732
00:23:06,219 --> 00:23:07,618
In company, you know what
I mean?
I was going through quite a dark
733
00:23:07,620 --> 00:23:08,953
I mean?
I was going through quite a dark
time in my personal life, too.
734
00:23:08,955 --> 00:23:10,287
I was going through quite a dark
time in my personal life, too.
I was going through a divorce,
735
00:23:10,289 --> 00:23:10,821
time in my personal life, too.
I was going through a divorce,
no label.
736
00:23:10,823 --> 00:23:12,523
I was going through a divorce,
no label.
You know, I was going through
737
00:23:12,525 --> 00:23:12,923
no label.
You know, I was going through
it.
738
00:23:12,925 --> 00:23:14,558
You know, I was going through
it.
So we came up with the name
739
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,559
it.
So we came up with the name
gnarls barkley.
740
00:23:15,561 --> 00:23:16,861
So we came up with the name
gnarls barkley.
It was danger -- I remember him
741
00:23:16,863 --> 00:23:17,762
gnarls barkley.
It was danger -- I remember him
calling me one time.
742
00:23:17,764 --> 00:23:18,462
It was danger -- I remember him
calling me one time.
He said, "yo."
743
00:23:18,464 --> 00:23:19,764
calling me one time.
He said, "yo."
it seemed like he was at a frat
744
00:23:19,766 --> 00:23:21,065
he said, "yo."
it seemed like he was at a frat
house or something -- there was
745
00:23:21,067 --> 00:23:22,299
it seemed like he was at a frat
house or something -- there was
a bunch of noise and laughter
746
00:23:22,301 --> 00:23:23,200
house or something -- there was
a bunch of noise and laughter
going on behind him.
747
00:23:23,202 --> 00:23:24,268
A bunch of noise and laughter
going on behind him.
He said, like, "yo, I was
748
00:23:24,270 --> 00:23:25,369
going on behind him.
He said, like, "yo, I was
shooting around with some
749
00:23:25,371 --> 00:23:26,537
he said, like, "yo, I was
shooting around with some
buddies of mine, having some
750
00:23:26,539 --> 00:23:26,937
shooting around with some
buddies of mine, having some
beers.
751
00:23:26,939 --> 00:23:28,272
Buddies of mine, having some
beers.
Man, we were just thinking about
752
00:23:28,274 --> 00:23:29,407
beers.
Man, we were just thinking about
group names and stuff like
753
00:23:29,409 --> 00:23:29,807
man, we were just thinking about
group names and stuff like
that."
754
00:23:29,809 --> 00:23:33,711
group names and stuff like
that."
and I was like, "yo, what do you
755
00:23:33,713 --> 00:23:37,281
that."
and I was like, "yo, what do you
think about gnarls barkley or
756
00:23:37,283 --> 00:23:40,551
and I was like, "yo, what do you
think about gnarls barkley or
prince gnarls or gnarls in
757
00:23:40,553 --> 00:23:45,022
think about gnarls barkley or
prince gnarls or gnarls in
charge?" [ laughs ]
758
00:23:45,024 --> 00:23:46,524
prince gnarls or gnarls in
charge?" [ laughs ]
so I said, "I like
759
00:23:46,526 --> 00:23:48,692
charge?" [ laughs ]
so I said, "I like
gnarls barkley out of all of
760
00:23:48,694 --> 00:23:49,427
so I said, "I like
gnarls barkley out of all of
them."
761
00:23:49,429 --> 00:23:51,362
gnarls barkley out of all of
them."
and his logic was, it's
762
00:23:51,364 --> 00:23:53,798
them."
and his logic was, it's
rock'n'roll, so if you notice,
763
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,800
and his logic was, it's
rock'n'roll, so if you notice,
it's a rule of thumb for
764
00:23:55,802 --> 00:23:58,302
rock'n'roll, so if you notice,
it's a rule of thumb for
rock'n'roll groups -- like, you
765
00:23:58,304 --> 00:24:00,237
it's a rule of thumb for
rock'n'roll groups -- like, you
do something -- you say
766
00:24:00,239 --> 00:24:01,772
rock'n'roll groups -- like, you
do something -- you say
something absurd.
767
00:24:01,774 --> 00:24:03,974
Do something -- you say
something absurd.
Like, you've got groups named
768
00:24:03,976 --> 00:24:05,376
something absurd.
Like, you've got groups named
"oingo boingo" or
769
00:24:05,378 --> 00:24:06,744
like, you've got groups named
"oingo boingo" or
"lynyrd skynyrd" or
770
00:24:06,746 --> 00:24:08,212
"oingo boingo" or
"lynyrd skynyrd" or
"goo goo dolls," you know what
771
00:24:08,214 --> 00:24:08,913
"lynyrd skynyrd" or
"goo goo dolls," you know what
I'm saying?
772
00:24:08,915 --> 00:24:10,181
"goo goo dolls," you know what
I'm saying?
It was just like, it's so
773
00:24:10,183 --> 00:24:11,749
I'm saying?
It was just like, it's so
absurd that you can't forget it.
774
00:24:11,751 --> 00:24:12,883
It was just like, it's so
absurd that you can't forget it.
That's how it came up.
775
00:24:12,885 --> 00:24:14,385
Absurd that you can't forget it.
That's how it came up.
I wanted to name the group
776
00:24:14,387 --> 00:24:16,053
that's how it came up.
I wanted to name the group
scarlet fever, because I felt
777
00:24:16,055 --> 00:24:17,688
I wanted to name the group
scarlet fever, because I felt
like, you know, the style was
778
00:24:17,690 --> 00:24:18,956
scarlet fever, because I felt
like, you know, the style was
like a rare sickness.
779
00:24:18,958 --> 00:24:20,558
Like, you know, the style was
like a rare sickness.
So I'm like, "scarlet fever,
780
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,625
like a rare sickness.
So I'm like, "scarlet fever,
that feels good."
781
00:24:21,627 --> 00:24:24,261
so I'm like, "scarlet fever,
that feels good."
but they was like, "nah."
782
00:24:24,263 --> 00:24:27,431
that feels good."
but they was like, "nah."
gnarls barkley was independent.
783
00:24:27,433 --> 00:24:30,100
But they was like, "nah."
gnarls barkley was independent.
That record that leaked when we
784
00:24:30,102 --> 00:24:32,303
gnarls barkley was independent.
That record that leaked when we
was shopping it around to
785
00:24:32,305 --> 00:24:34,805
that record that leaked when we
was shopping it around to
labels -- "crazy" got leaked,
786
00:24:34,807 --> 00:24:36,874
was shopping it around to
labels -- "crazy" got leaked,
and it ends up going to
787
00:24:36,876 --> 00:24:40,010
labels -- "crazy" got leaked,
and it ends up going to
number one on the u.K. Charts
788
00:24:40,012 --> 00:24:43,247
and it ends up going to
number one on the u.K. Charts
for either 7 or 8 weeks before
789
00:24:43,249 --> 00:24:46,150
number one on the u.K. Charts
for either 7 or 8 weeks before
we even signed a deal.
790
00:24:46,152 --> 00:24:48,819
For either 7 or 8 weeks before
we even signed a deal.
So we had gnarls barkley's
791
00:24:48,821 --> 00:24:49,954
we even signed a deal.
So we had gnarls barkley's
"crazy."
792
00:24:49,956 --> 00:24:52,623
so we had gnarls barkley's
"crazy."
I wrote and produced "don't cha"
793
00:24:52,625 --> 00:24:55,059
"crazy."
I wrote and produced "don't cha"
for the pussycat dolls, which
794
00:24:55,061 --> 00:24:56,861
I wrote and produced "don't cha"
for the pussycat dolls, which
was also a number one, and he
795
00:24:56,863 --> 00:24:58,629
for the pussycat dolls, which
was also a number one, and he
had just got through writing
796
00:24:58,631 --> 00:25:01,031
was also a number one, and he
had just got through writing
"feel good, inc." for gorillaz.
797
00:25:01,033 --> 00:25:03,167
Had just got through writing
"feel good, inc." for gorillaz.
So we had three number ones.
798
00:25:03,169 --> 00:25:05,169
"feel good, inc." for gorillaz.
So we had three number ones.
When we sat down at the table to
799
00:25:05,171 --> 00:25:06,937
so we had three number ones.
When we sat down at the table to
do that deal, we had to talk
800
00:25:06,939 --> 00:25:08,906
when we sat down at the table to
do that deal, we had to talk
about it, you know what I mean?
801
00:25:08,908 --> 00:25:10,140
Do that deal, we had to talk
about it, you know what I mean?
So it was perfect.
802
00:25:10,142 --> 00:25:12,443
About it, you know what I mean?
So it was perfect.
Gnarls barkley was supposed to
803
00:25:12,445 --> 00:25:14,578
so it was perfect.
Gnarls barkley was supposed to
be someone totally different
804
00:25:14,580 --> 00:25:16,347
gnarls barkley was supposed to
be someone totally different
from either one of us.
805
00:25:16,349 --> 00:25:18,148
Be someone totally different
from either one of us.
Gnarls barkley was supposed to
806
00:25:18,150 --> 00:25:19,683
from either one of us.
Gnarls barkley was supposed to
be this enigmatic kind of
807
00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:23,821
gnarls barkley was supposed to
be this enigmatic kind of
character.
808
00:25:23,823 --> 00:25:26,190
Be this enigmatic kind of
character.
I always saw it, like, you know,
809
00:25:26,192 --> 00:25:30,928
character.
I always saw it, like, you know,
I was writing or reading memoirs
810
00:25:30,930 --> 00:25:32,530
I always saw it, like, you know,
I was writing or reading memoirs
of gnarls barkley, so these were
811
00:25:32,532 --> 00:25:34,098
I was writing or reading memoirs
of gnarls barkley, so these were
from his diary or something like
812
00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:34,532
of gnarls barkley, so these were
from his diary or something like
that.
813
00:25:34,534 --> 00:25:36,467
From his diary or something like
that.
So, like, it was totally out of
814
00:25:36,469 --> 00:25:37,001
that.
So, like, it was totally out of
body.
815
00:25:37,003 --> 00:25:38,702
So, like, it was totally out of
body.
It wasn't supposed to be so
816
00:25:38,704 --> 00:25:40,571
body.
It wasn't supposed to be so
immediately associated with me
817
00:25:40,573 --> 00:25:41,205
it wasn't supposed to be so
immediately associated with me
or him.
818
00:25:41,207 --> 00:25:42,973
Immediately associated with me
or him.
And I think that's what worked,
819
00:25:42,975 --> 00:25:44,575
or him.
And I think that's what worked,
and I think that's what made
820
00:25:44,577 --> 00:25:46,343
and I think that's what worked,
and I think that's what made
the second gnarls barkley album
821
00:25:46,345 --> 00:25:48,145
and I think that's what made
the second gnarls barkley album
not work as well, because a lot
822
00:25:48,147 --> 00:25:50,014
the second gnarls barkley album
not work as well, because a lot
of the songs were more personal.
823
00:25:50,016 --> 00:25:51,982
Not work as well, because a lot
of the songs were more personal.
I wrote songs about my mom and
824
00:25:51,984 --> 00:25:53,150
of the songs were more personal.
I wrote songs about my mom and
stuff like that.
825
00:25:53,152 --> 00:25:55,085
I wrote songs about my mom and
stuff like that.
So, you know, people were kind
826
00:25:55,087 --> 00:25:57,087
stuff like that.
So, you know, people were kind
of woken up from the dream, you
827
00:25:57,089 --> 00:25:59,123
so, you know, people were kind
of woken up from the dream, you
know, where it's like, "oh, ok,
828
00:25:59,125 --> 00:25:59,890
of woken up from the dream, you
know, where it's like, "oh, ok,
I get it.
829
00:25:59,892 --> 00:26:01,458
Know, where it's like, "oh, ok,
I get it.
You're gnarls barkley."
830
00:26:01,460 --> 00:26:01,959
I get it.
You're gnarls barkley."
and I was like, "no."
831
00:26:06,398 --> 00:26:12,736
>> green: I still didn't have
a solo deal as ceelo green,
so they was like, "can't let you
832
00:26:12,738 --> 00:26:13,637
a solo deal as ceelo green,
so they was like, "can't let you
go."
833
00:26:13,639 --> 00:26:14,838
so they was like, "can't let you
go."
you know what I mean?
834
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,106
Go."
you know what I mean?
Like, let's do a deal.
835
00:26:16,108 --> 00:26:17,675
You know what I mean?
Like, let's do a deal.
So did the deal, and they was
836
00:26:17,677 --> 00:26:19,076
like, let's do a deal.
So did the deal, and they was
like, "what do you want?"
837
00:26:19,078 --> 00:26:20,678
so did the deal, and they was
like, "what do you want?"
and I'm like, "I want to go to
838
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,212
like, "what do you want?"
and I'm like, "I want to go to
the bahamas, you know what I
839
00:26:22,214 --> 00:26:22,713
and I'm like, "I want to go to
the bahamas, you know what I
mean?"
840
00:26:22,715 --> 00:26:24,081
the bahamas, you know what I
mean?"
so I rented a mansion in
841
00:26:24,083 --> 00:26:25,749
mean?"
so I rented a mansion in
the bahamas and flew a bunch of
842
00:26:25,751 --> 00:26:27,384
so I rented a mansion in
the bahamas and flew a bunch of
stereo equipment in -- I mean,
843
00:26:27,386 --> 00:26:28,986
the bahamas and flew a bunch of
stereo equipment in -- I mean,
excuse me, recording equipment
844
00:26:28,988 --> 00:26:30,487
stereo equipment in -- I mean,
excuse me, recording equipment
out there and, you know, we
845
00:26:30,489 --> 00:26:32,156
excuse me, recording equipment
out there and, you know, we
holed up, had different writers
846
00:26:32,158 --> 00:26:32,756
out there and, you know, we
holed up, had different writers
come in.
847
00:26:32,758 --> 00:26:34,425
Holed up, had different writers
come in.
Still didn't get nothing out of
848
00:26:34,427 --> 00:26:35,192
come in.
Still didn't get nothing out of
those trips.
849
00:26:35,194 --> 00:26:36,226
Still didn't get nothing out of
those trips.
A bunch of music.
850
00:26:36,228 --> 00:26:37,528
Those trips.
A bunch of music.
I couldn't please them.
851
00:26:37,530 --> 00:26:41,699
A bunch of music.
I couldn't please them.
They was like, "yo, we --
852
00:26:41,701 --> 00:26:44,335
I couldn't please them.
They was like, "yo, we --
we still looking for that one.
853
00:26:44,337 --> 00:26:46,470
They was like, "yo, we --
we still looking for that one.
So they were like, "let me
854
00:26:46,472 --> 00:26:48,772
we still looking for that one.
So they were like, "let me
introduce you to these kids,
855
00:26:48,774 --> 00:26:51,041
so they were like, "let me
introduce you to these kids,
phil and bruno," which ended
856
00:26:51,043 --> 00:26:53,210
introduce you to these kids,
phil and bruno," which ended
up being phil lawrence and
857
00:26:53,212 --> 00:26:54,311
phil and bruno," which ended
up being phil lawrence and
bruno mars.
858
00:26:54,313 --> 00:26:56,380
Up being phil lawrence and
bruno mars.
At the time, they were staff
859
00:26:56,382 --> 00:26:58,682
bruno mars.
At the time, they were staff
writers, kind of like behind the
860
00:26:58,684 --> 00:27:00,884
at the time, they were staff
writers, kind of like behind the
scenes, doing session work and
861
00:27:00,886 --> 00:27:03,120
writers, kind of like behind the
scenes, doing session work and
co-writing and stuff like that.
862
00:27:03,122 --> 00:27:05,255
Scenes, doing session work and
co-writing and stuff like that.
They came over to the studio.
863
00:27:05,257 --> 00:27:07,257
Co-writing and stuff like that.
They came over to the studio.
We were working out of this
864
00:27:07,259 --> 00:27:09,126
they came over to the studio.
We were working out of this
studio called nightbird.
865
00:27:09,128 --> 00:27:11,195
We were working out of this
studio called nightbird.
It's in the basement of this
866
00:27:11,197 --> 00:27:13,130
studio called nightbird.
It's in the basement of this
hotel, the sunset marquis.
867
00:27:13,132 --> 00:27:14,565
It's in the basement of this
hotel, the sunset marquis.
So they came over.
868
00:27:14,567 --> 00:27:16,500
Hotel, the sunset marquis.
So they came over.
I told them I was going to
869
00:27:16,502 --> 00:27:18,636
so they came over.
I told them I was going to
the restroom, and I just -- I
870
00:27:18,638 --> 00:27:19,937
I told them I was going to
the restroom, and I just -- I
never went back.
871
00:27:19,939 --> 00:27:22,139
The restroom, and I just -- I
never went back.
And I don't tell this story to
872
00:27:22,141 --> 00:27:24,308
never went back.
And I don't tell this story to
be disrespectful to them, it's
873
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:25,309
and I don't tell this story to
be disrespectful to them, it's
just crazy.
874
00:27:25,311 --> 00:27:26,944
Be disrespectful to them, it's
just crazy.
It's just one of them
875
00:27:26,946 --> 00:27:28,512
just crazy.
It's just one of them
rock'n'roll stories.
876
00:27:28,514 --> 00:27:30,381
It's just one of them
rock'n'roll stories.
Anyway, I end up going to
877
00:27:30,383 --> 00:27:31,582
rock'n'roll stories.
Anyway, I end up going to
bruno's house.
878
00:27:31,584 --> 00:27:33,817
Anyway, I end up going to
bruno's house.
He has this studio, home studio
879
00:27:33,819 --> 00:27:35,252
bruno's house.
He has this studio, home studio
around the corner.
880
00:27:35,254 --> 00:27:36,453
He has this studio, home studio
around the corner.
Go over there.
881
00:27:36,455 --> 00:27:38,756
Around the corner.
Go over there.
A second time, after they got us
882
00:27:38,758 --> 00:27:40,958
go over there.
A second time, after they got us
back together, turns out these
883
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,826
a second time, after they got us
back together, turns out these
guys are really talented.
884
00:27:42,828 --> 00:27:44,194
Back together, turns out these
guys are really talented.
Really good guys.
885
00:27:44,196 --> 00:27:46,463
Guys are really talented.
Really good guys.
We end up all being the best of
886
00:27:46,465 --> 00:27:47,898
really good guys.
We end up all being the best of
friends, you know.
887
00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:49,199
We end up all being the best of
friends, you know.
They forgave me.
888
00:27:49,201 --> 00:27:50,968
Friends, you know.
They forgave me.
I had been working with
889
00:27:50,970 --> 00:27:52,970
they forgave me.
I had been working with
bruno mars for maybe, like,
890
00:27:52,972 --> 00:27:54,138
I had been working with
bruno mars for maybe, like,
a month or so.
891
00:27:54,140 --> 00:27:56,407
Bruno mars for maybe, like,
a month or so.
He wrote "just the way that you
892
00:27:56,409 --> 00:27:57,474
a month or so.
He wrote "just the way that you
are" for me.
893
00:27:57,476 --> 00:27:59,643
He wrote "just the way that you
are" for me.
I was like, "hmm, it's a great
894
00:27:59,645 --> 00:28:01,645
are" for me.
I was like, "hmm, it's a great
song, but it's not for me."
895
00:28:01,647 --> 00:28:03,514
I was like, "hmm, it's a great
song, but it's not for me."
then we did a song called
896
00:28:03,516 --> 00:28:05,716
song, but it's not for me."
then we did a song called
"the other side" for his debut
897
00:28:05,718 --> 00:28:06,417
then we did a song called
"the other side" for his debut
album.
898
00:28:06,419 --> 00:28:08,352
"the other side" for his debut
album.
And the third time was the
899
00:28:08,354 --> 00:28:09,019
album.
And the third time was the
charm.
900
00:28:09,021 --> 00:28:11,288
And the third time was the
charm.
He -- I went by that day and he
901
00:28:11,290 --> 00:28:13,290
charm.
He -- I went by that day and he
said, "man, check this out.
902
00:28:13,292 --> 00:28:14,658
He -- I went by that day and he
said, "man, check this out.
This is the idea.
903
00:28:14,660 --> 00:28:16,960
Said, "man, check this out.
This is the idea.
It ain't finished yet, it's just
904
00:28:16,962 --> 00:28:17,728
this is the idea.
It ain't finished yet, it's just
a hook.
905
00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:19,530
It ain't finished yet, it's just
a hook.
Tell me what you think."
906
00:28:19,532 --> 00:28:22,132
a hook.
Tell me what you think."
[ humming ]
907
00:28:22,134 --> 00:28:23,801
tell me what you think."
[ humming ]
you know what I'm saying?
908
00:28:23,803 --> 00:28:25,402
[ humming ]
you know what I'm saying?
We jump right in on it.
909
00:28:25,404 --> 00:28:26,904
You know what I'm saying?
We jump right in on it.
A lot of what you hear
910
00:28:26,906 --> 00:28:28,872
we jump right in on it.
A lot of what you hear
verse-wise is freestyling, you
911
00:28:28,874 --> 00:28:30,107
a lot of what you hear
verse-wise is freestyling, you
know what I mean?
912
00:28:30,109 --> 00:28:32,176
Verse-wise is freestyling, you
know what I mean?
I only think we only ever really
913
00:28:32,178 --> 00:28:34,144
know what I mean?
I only think we only ever really
wrote that song down on paper.
914
00:28:34,146 --> 00:28:36,180
I only think we only ever really
wrote that song down on paper.
I just went and sat at the mic,
915
00:28:36,182 --> 00:28:38,248
wrote that song down on paper.
I just went and sat at the mic,
and we just tossed lines around,
916
00:28:38,250 --> 00:28:40,150
I just went and sat at the mic,
and we just tossed lines around,
and we just kind of pieced it
917
00:28:40,152 --> 00:28:41,151
and we just tossed lines around,
and we just kind of pieced it
all together.
918
00:28:41,153 --> 00:28:43,020
And we just kind of pieced it
all together.
A lot of these songs that is
919
00:28:43,022 --> 00:28:44,988
all together.
A lot of these songs that is
a bit iconic, I almost hate to
920
00:28:44,990 --> 00:28:47,057
a lot of these songs that is
a bit iconic, I almost hate to
talk about them because you kind
921
00:28:47,059 --> 00:28:48,625
a bit iconic, I almost hate to
talk about them because you kind
of give away the magic.
922
00:28:48,627 --> 00:28:50,527
Talk about them because you kind
of give away the magic.
They're so -- there's no big,
923
00:28:50,529 --> 00:28:52,629
of give away the magic.
They're so -- there's no big,
elaborate story surrounding most
924
00:28:52,631 --> 00:28:53,731
they're so -- there's no big,
elaborate story surrounding most
of these songs.
925
00:28:53,733 --> 00:28:55,766
Elaborate story surrounding most
of these songs.
So we're riding high off of the
926
00:28:55,768 --> 00:29:01,905
of these songs.
So we're riding high off of the
success of "[bleep] you."
927
00:29:01,907 --> 00:29:03,140
so we're riding high off of the
success of "[bleep] you."
and I was doing
928
00:29:03,142 --> 00:29:05,042
success of "[bleep] you."
and I was doing
the musical performance on
929
00:29:05,044 --> 00:29:07,277
and I was doing
the musical performance on
"Saturday night live", which is
930
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:09,379
the musical performance on
"Saturday night live", which is
coveted -- not everybody gets
931
00:29:09,381 --> 00:29:11,482
"Saturday night live", which is
coveted -- not everybody gets
the opportunity to do it, so.
932
00:29:11,484 --> 00:29:15,385
Coveted -- not everybody gets
the opportunity to do it, so.
Mark burnett, executive producer
933
00:29:15,387 --> 00:29:19,323
the opportunity to do it, so.
Mark burnett, executive producer
of "the apprentice," "survivor,"
934
00:29:19,325 --> 00:29:21,291
mark burnett, executive producer
of "the apprentice," "survivor,"
you know, so many other
935
00:29:21,293 --> 00:29:23,694
of "the apprentice," "survivor,"
you know, so many other
successful tv shows was doing
936
00:29:23,696 --> 00:29:25,095
you know, so many other
successful tv shows was doing
"the voice," and he just
937
00:29:25,097 --> 00:29:26,764
successful tv shows was doing
"the voice," and he just
happened to be in the audience
938
00:29:26,766 --> 00:29:28,332
"the voice," and he just
happened to be in the audience
at "Saturday night live" and
939
00:29:28,334 --> 00:29:29,533
happened to be in the audience
at "Saturday night live" and
took a liking to me.
940
00:29:29,535 --> 00:29:31,135
At "Saturday night live" and
took a liking to me.
Me, adam levine,
941
00:29:31,137 --> 00:29:33,303
took a liking to me.
Me, adam levine,
christina aguilera, and
942
00:29:33,305 --> 00:29:35,372
me, adam levine,
christina aguilera, and
blake shelton had dinner one
943
00:29:35,374 --> 00:29:36,073
christina aguilera, and
blake shelton had dinner one
night.
944
00:29:36,075 --> 00:29:38,375
Blake shelton had dinner one
night.
I mean, adam was already cool.
945
00:29:38,377 --> 00:29:39,643
Night.
I mean, adam was already cool.
Then he says, "what do you think
946
00:29:39,645 --> 00:29:40,511
I mean, adam was already cool.
Then he says, "what do you think
about this idea, man?
947
00:29:40,513 --> 00:29:41,612
Then he says, "what do you think
about this idea, man?
If you don't do it, I'm not
948
00:29:41,614 --> 00:29:42,312
about this idea, man?
If you don't do it, I'm not
going to do it."
949
00:29:42,314 --> 00:29:43,514
if you don't do it, I'm not
going to do it."
and I was like, "I don't know.
950
00:29:43,516 --> 00:29:44,314
Going to do it."
and I was like, "I don't know.
It's kind of cool."
951
00:29:44,316 --> 00:29:46,350
and I was like, "I don't know.
It's kind of cool."
and what I liked about it was,
952
00:29:46,352 --> 00:29:48,385
it's kind of cool."
and what I liked about it was,
you know, the revolving chair.
953
00:29:48,387 --> 00:29:50,454
And what I liked about it was,
you know, the revolving chair.
I liked the fact that it wasn't
954
00:29:50,456 --> 00:29:52,356
you know, the revolving chair.
I liked the fact that it wasn't
based off of imaging, it was
955
00:29:52,358 --> 00:29:54,358
I liked the fact that it wasn't
based off of imaging, it was
based off of the integrity of
956
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,559
based off of imaging, it was
based off of the integrity of
someone's voice.
957
00:29:55,561 --> 00:29:58,228
Based off of the integrity of
someone's voice.
So that's how it came about.
958
00:29:58,230 --> 00:30:00,564
Someone's voice.
So that's how it came about.
I was doing "the voice."
959
00:30:00,566 --> 00:30:02,699
so that's how it came about.
I was doing "the voice."
everyone else was releasing
960
00:30:02,701 --> 00:30:05,035
I was doing "the voice."
everyone else was releasing
new music besides myself, so I
961
00:30:05,037 --> 00:30:07,070
everyone else was releasing
new music besides myself, so I
had a conversation with my
962
00:30:07,072 --> 00:30:09,540
new music besides myself, so I
had a conversation with my
label, and I initially suggested
963
00:30:09,542 --> 00:30:10,707
had a conversation with my
label, and I initially suggested
that we do a covers album,
964
00:30:10,709 --> 00:30:11,909
label, and I initially suggested
that we do a covers album,
because we wouldn't have had
965
00:30:11,911 --> 00:30:13,143
that we do a covers album,
because we wouldn't have had
enough time to do, you know,
966
00:30:13,145 --> 00:30:17,815
because we wouldn't have had
enough time to do, you know,
another full-length project.
967
00:30:17,817 --> 00:30:19,116
Enough time to do, you know,
another full-length project.
So I said, "this could be quick
968
00:30:19,118 --> 00:30:19,817
another full-length project.
So I said, "this could be quick
and convenient.
969
00:30:19,819 --> 00:30:20,884
So I said, "this could be quick
and convenient.
Let's do a covers album."
970
00:30:20,886 --> 00:30:22,119
and convenient.
Let's do a covers album."
and I wanted to call it
971
00:30:22,121 --> 00:30:23,320
let's do a covers album."
and I wanted to call it
"under the covers with
972
00:30:23,322 --> 00:30:24,121
and I wanted to call it
"under the covers with
ceelo green."
973
00:30:24,123 --> 00:30:25,956
"under the covers with
ceelo green."
instead, we decided to do
974
00:30:25,958 --> 00:30:27,357
ceelo green."
instead, we decided to do
a christmas album.
975
00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:29,293
Instead, we decided to do
a christmas album.
Yeah, that's another one of
976
00:30:29,295 --> 00:30:34,064
a christmas album.
Yeah, that's another one of
those...Exceptional things
977
00:30:34,066 --> 00:30:35,365
yeah, that's another one of
those...Exceptional things
I've been able to do.
978
00:30:35,367 --> 00:30:37,100
Those...Exceptional things
I've been able to do.
My career has been almost like
979
00:30:37,102 --> 00:30:38,902
I've been able to do.
My career has been almost like
forrest gump -- just, you know.
980
00:30:38,904 --> 00:30:40,537
My career has been almost like
forrest gump -- just, you know.
I can't believe some of this
981
00:30:40,539 --> 00:30:42,206
forrest gump -- just, you know.
I can't believe some of this
stuff is happening, you know
982
00:30:42,208 --> 00:30:43,040
I can't believe some of this
stuff is happening, you know
what I mean?
983
00:30:43,042 --> 00:30:47,077
Stuff is happening, you know
what I mean?
Because that's an amazing feat.
984
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:51,782
What I mean?
Because that's an amazing feat.
At this point, I wanted to do
985
00:30:51,784 --> 00:30:53,984
because that's an amazing feat.
At this point, I wanted to do
something different and shake it
986
00:30:53,986 --> 00:30:55,252
at this point, I wanted to do
something different and shake it
up a little bit.
987
00:30:55,254 --> 00:30:57,387
Something different and shake it
up a little bit.
And I'd been sitting around and
988
00:30:57,389 --> 00:30:59,590
up a little bit.
And I'd been sitting around and
just kind of thinking to myself,
989
00:30:59,592 --> 00:31:00,958
and I'd been sitting around and
just kind of thinking to myself,
"what could I do?"
990
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,862
just kind of thinking to myself,
"what could I do?"
so I come up with this other
991
00:31:04,864 --> 00:31:06,964
"what could I do?"
so I come up with this other
extraterrestrial character,
992
00:31:06,966 --> 00:31:09,299
so I come up with this other
extraterrestrial character,
gnarly davidson.
993
00:31:09,301 --> 00:31:12,069
Extraterrestrial character,
gnarly davidson.
The backstory behind the name
994
00:31:12,071 --> 00:31:13,971
gnarly davidson.
The backstory behind the name
is I was kind of going back and
995
00:31:13,973 --> 00:31:15,772
the backstory behind the name
is I was kind of going back and
forth with danger mouse about
996
00:31:15,774 --> 00:31:19,409
is I was kind of going back and
forth with danger mouse about
when we were going to actually
997
00:31:19,411 --> 00:31:22,846
forth with danger mouse about
when we were going to actually
do the third and last
998
00:31:22,848 --> 00:31:24,147
when we were going to actually
do the third and last
gnarls barkley album.
999
00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:25,949
Do the third and last
gnarls barkley album.
And I said, "well, I'll just do
1000
00:31:25,951 --> 00:31:27,584
gnarls barkley album.
And I said, "well, I'll just do
something to amuse myself --
1001
00:31:27,586 --> 00:31:29,019
and I said, "well, I'll just do
something to amuse myself --
a play on it, you know."
1002
00:31:29,021 --> 00:31:30,854
something to amuse myself --
a play on it, you know."
do a mixtape or just something
1003
00:31:30,856 --> 00:31:32,756
a play on it, you know."
do a mixtape or just something
and just put it out there, just
1004
00:31:32,758 --> 00:31:34,625
do a mixtape or just something
and just put it out there, just
to get some new music and some
1005
00:31:34,627 --> 00:31:35,459
and just put it out there, just
to get some new music and some
vibe going.
1006
00:31:35,461 --> 00:31:38,562
To get some new music and some
vibe going.
So gnarly davidson came out.
1007
00:31:38,564 --> 00:31:39,696
Vibe going.
So gnarly davidson came out.
I went to all of these
1008
00:31:39,698 --> 00:31:40,898
so gnarly davidson came out.
I went to all of these
special effects people,
1009
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:44,935
I went to all of these
special effects people,
you know, that do -- you know, I
1010
00:31:44,937 --> 00:31:46,603
special effects people,
you know, that do -- you know, I
think they worked on "avatar"
1011
00:31:46,605 --> 00:31:48,038
you know, that do -- you know, I
think they worked on "avatar"
and "lord of the rings."
1012
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,140
think they worked on "avatar"
and "lord of the rings."
and, you know, like, that mask
1013
00:31:50,142 --> 00:31:51,942
and "lord of the rings."
and, you know, like, that mask
and all of the technology
1014
00:31:51,944 --> 00:31:53,310
and, you know, like, that mask
and all of the technology
underneath it to make it glow
1015
00:31:53,312 --> 00:31:54,745
and all of the technology
underneath it to make it glow
and work, you know, I just went
1016
00:31:54,747 --> 00:31:55,479
underneath it to make it glow
and work, you know, I just went
in my pocket.
1017
00:31:55,481 --> 00:31:56,847
And work, you know, I just went
in my pocket.
I was like, "yo, I'm-a go all
1018
00:31:56,849 --> 00:31:58,015
in my pocket.
I was like, "yo, I'm-a go all
out for this character."
1019
00:31:58,017 --> 00:32:00,117
I was like, "yo, I'm-a go all
out for this character."
right? So when you think of
1020
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:02,286
out for this character."
right? So when you think of
superheroes of villains, you
1021
00:32:02,288 --> 00:32:03,854
right? So when you think of
superheroes of villains, you
know that something
1022
00:32:03,856 --> 00:32:06,423
superheroes of villains, you
know that something
post-traumatic has happened,
1023
00:32:06,425 --> 00:32:08,558
know that something
post-traumatic has happened,
thus, you know, become
1024
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,027
post-traumatic has happened,
thus, you know, become
the character.
1025
00:32:10,029 --> 00:32:12,329
Thus, you know, become
the character.
So, you know, peter parker got
1026
00:32:12,331 --> 00:32:14,498
the character.
So, you know, peter parker got
bit by a radioactive spider.
1027
00:32:14,500 --> 00:32:16,566
So, you know, peter parker got
bit by a radioactive spider.
You know, bruce wayne's parents
1028
00:32:16,568 --> 00:32:18,568
bit by a radioactive spider.
You know, bruce wayne's parents
were brutally murdered outside
1029
00:32:18,570 --> 00:32:19,436
you know, bruce wayne's parents
were brutally murdered outside
of a play.
1030
00:32:19,438 --> 00:32:21,605
Were brutally murdered outside
of a play.
You know, so something happens.
1031
00:32:21,607 --> 00:32:23,707
Of a play.
You know, so something happens.
All of the samsung phones were
1032
00:32:23,709 --> 00:32:25,375
you know, so something happens.
All of the samsung phones were
exploding in real life.
1033
00:32:25,377 --> 00:32:26,677
All of the samsung phones were
exploding in real life.
So at first, I was going to be
1034
00:32:26,679 --> 00:32:27,844
exploding in real life.
So at first, I was going to be
like, "yo, I'm going to get
1035
00:32:27,846 --> 00:32:28,946
so at first, I was going to be
like, "yo, I'm going to get
a sponsorship from puff,
1036
00:32:28,948 --> 00:32:30,213
like, "yo, I'm going to get
a sponsorship from puff,
I'm going to be in the studio,
1037
00:32:30,215 --> 00:32:31,481
a sponsorship from puff,
I'm going to be in the studio,
I'm going to be drinking some
1038
00:32:31,483 --> 00:32:32,749
I'm going to be in the studio,
I'm going to be drinking some
ciroq, and then it's going to
1039
00:32:32,751 --> 00:32:33,951
I'm going to be drinking some
ciroq, and then it's going to
spill on the board, and then
1040
00:32:33,953 --> 00:32:35,285
ciroq, and then it's going to
spill on the board, and then
it's going to blow up -- boom."
1041
00:32:35,287 --> 00:32:36,219
spill on the board, and then
it's going to blow up -- boom."
you know? [ laughs ]
1042
00:32:36,221 --> 00:32:37,354
it's going to blow up -- boom."
you know? [ laughs ]
and I'm going to become --
1043
00:32:37,356 --> 00:32:38,555
you know? [ laughs ]
and I'm going to become --
but that was kind of goofy.
1044
00:32:38,557 --> 00:32:40,924
And I'm going to become --
but that was kind of goofy.
So the samsung things were real
1045
00:32:40,926 --> 00:32:43,393
but that was kind of goofy.
So the samsung things were real
life, so I got a friend of mine,
1046
00:32:43,395 --> 00:32:45,696
so the samsung things were real
life, so I got a friend of mine,
you know, who's directed a few
1047
00:32:45,698 --> 00:32:47,898
life, so I got a friend of mine,
you know, who's directed a few
of my videos -- shout out to
1048
00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:49,900
you know, who's directed a few
of my videos -- shout out to
john colombo -- and I was like,
1049
00:32:49,902 --> 00:32:51,802
of my videos -- shout out to
john colombo -- and I was like,
"yo, can we make this happen?
1050
00:32:51,804 --> 00:32:53,070
John colombo -- and I was like,
"yo, can we make this happen?
Blah, blah, blah."
1051
00:32:53,072 --> 00:32:55,639
"yo, can we make this happen?
Blah, blah, blah."
so I wanted the character to be
1052
00:32:55,641 --> 00:32:58,241
blah, blah, blah."
so I wanted the character to be
this kind of a cyborg, you know,
1053
00:32:58,243 --> 00:33:00,744
so I wanted the character to be
this kind of a cyborg, you know,
kind of character, to where he
1054
00:33:00,746 --> 00:33:02,579
this kind of a cyborg, you know,
kind of character, to where he
was just all-knowing.
1055
00:33:02,581 --> 00:33:05,082
Kind of character, to where he
was just all-knowing.
I said, "let's take a real life
1056
00:33:05,084 --> 00:33:07,351
was just all-knowing.
I said, "let's take a real life
event and it'll make it more
1057
00:33:07,353 --> 00:33:08,518
I said, "let's take a real life
event and it'll make it more
believable."
1058
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,922
event and it'll make it more
believable."
so what happened was what you
1059
00:33:11,924 --> 00:33:14,891
believable."
so what happened was what you
saw was a pass as we were
1060
00:33:14,893 --> 00:33:18,295
so what happened was what you
saw was a pass as we were
dialing up the effects on it.
1061
00:33:18,297 --> 00:33:20,197
Saw was a pass as we were
dialing up the effects on it.
You know, I'm like, "ok, there's
1062
00:33:20,199 --> 00:33:21,932
dialing up the effects on it.
You know, I'm like, "ok, there's
too much smoke and not enough
1063
00:33:21,934 --> 00:33:23,200
you know, I'm like, "ok, there's
too much smoke and not enough
sizzle," or whatever
1064
00:33:23,202 --> 00:33:24,368
too much smoke and not enough
sizzle," or whatever
the critique was.
1065
00:33:24,370 --> 00:33:26,036
Sizzle," or whatever
the critique was.
Yeah, so one of the e-mails
1066
00:33:26,038 --> 00:33:29,206
the critique was.
Yeah, so one of the e-mails
leaked...
1067
00:33:29,208 --> 00:33:32,409
Yeah, so one of the e-mails
leaked...
Everybody picks it up and goes
1068
00:33:32,411 --> 00:33:35,078
leaked...
Everybody picks it up and goes
super-duper-duper viral.
1069
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:41,618
Everybody picks it up and goes
super-duper-duper viral.
And it was terrible because
1070
00:33:41,620 --> 00:33:43,086
super-duper-duper viral.
And it was terrible because
people were afraid for me.
1071
00:33:43,088 --> 00:33:44,654
And it was terrible because
people were afraid for me.
People were petrified for my
1072
00:33:44,656 --> 00:33:46,623
people were afraid for me.
People were petrified for my
life, you know what I'm saying?
1073
00:33:46,625 --> 00:33:48,625
People were petrified for my
life, you know what I'm saying?
Thinking I'm somewhere hurt, you
1074
00:33:48,627 --> 00:33:50,627
life, you know what I'm saying?
Thinking I'm somewhere hurt, you
know, and burnt to death almost.
1075
00:33:50,629 --> 00:33:51,762
Thinking I'm somewhere hurt, you
know, and burnt to death almost.
So it wasn't even funny,
1076
00:33:51,764 --> 00:33:52,796
know, and burnt to death almost.
So it wasn't even funny,
you know what I mean?
1077
00:33:52,798 --> 00:33:57,000
So it wasn't even funny,
you know what I mean?
Like and everybody -- everybody,
1078
00:33:57,002 --> 00:33:58,468
you know what I mean?
Like and everybody -- everybody,
you know, you could think of
1079
00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:59,803
like and everybody -- everybody,
you know, you could think of
called me to check on me.
1080
00:33:59,805 --> 00:34:02,172
You know, you could think of
called me to check on me.
But it got so big so quick,
1081
00:34:02,174 --> 00:34:03,774
called me to check on me.
But it got so big so quick,
I had to stop it.
1082
00:34:03,776 --> 00:34:05,175
But it got so big so quick,
I had to stop it.
You know, I was going to kind of
1083
00:34:05,177 --> 00:34:06,309
I had to stop it.
You know, I was going to kind of
let it play out, you know.
1084
00:34:06,311 --> 00:34:07,677
You know, I was going to kind of
let it play out, you know.
There was a part of me that was
1085
00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:08,879
let it play out, you know.
There was a part of me that was
amused by it because it was
1086
00:34:08,881 --> 00:34:10,580
there was a part of me that was
amused by it because it was
just, like -- it was on the
1087
00:34:10,582 --> 00:34:12,149
amused by it because it was
just, like -- it was on the
news, it was everywhere.
1088
00:34:12,151 --> 00:34:13,950
Just, like -- it was on the
news, it was everywhere.
It was on international news.
1089
00:34:13,952 --> 00:34:15,619
News, it was everywhere.
It was on international news.
But it was just a mistake.
1090
00:34:15,621 --> 00:34:17,954
It was on international news.
But it was just a mistake.
We dropped the ball on what
1091
00:34:17,956 --> 00:34:20,657
but it was just a mistake.
We dropped the ball on what
could have been something great.
1092
00:34:20,659 --> 00:34:22,893
We dropped the ball on what
could have been something great.
I went to the grammys that next
1093
00:34:22,895 --> 00:34:25,062
could have been something great.
I went to the grammys that next
year in full gear, you know --
1094
00:34:25,064 --> 00:34:27,464
I went to the grammys that next
year in full gear, you know --
in the gold man, as he's
1095
00:34:27,466 --> 00:34:28,865
year in full gear, you know --
in the gold man, as he's
referred to.
1096
00:34:28,867 --> 00:34:31,168
In the gold man, as he's
referred to.
But it didn't make any sense.
1097
00:34:31,170 --> 00:34:32,736
Referred to.
But it didn't make any sense.
So I basically had to shelve
1098
00:34:32,738 --> 00:34:33,804
but it didn't make any sense.
So I basically had to shelve
the whole project.
1099
00:34:33,806 --> 00:34:36,473
So I basically had to shelve
the whole project.
So I have an entire album done
1100
00:34:36,475 --> 00:34:38,408
the whole project.
So I have an entire album done
with this character,
1101
00:34:38,410 --> 00:34:40,310
so I have an entire album done
with this character,
gnarly davidson, and I never
1102
00:34:40,312 --> 00:34:42,479
with this character,
gnarly davidson, and I never
really released any of the music
1103
00:34:42,481 --> 00:34:44,514
gnarly davidson, and I never
really released any of the music
besides one song -- well, two,
1104
00:34:44,516 --> 00:34:45,315
really released any of the music
besides one song -- well, two,
actually.
1105
00:34:45,317 --> 00:34:46,583
Besides one song -- well, two,
actually.
I got all of the memes.
1106
00:34:46,585 --> 00:34:48,051
Actually.
I got all of the memes.
And look, I didn't even have
1107
00:34:48,053 --> 00:34:49,586
I got all of the memes.
And look, I didn't even have
clearance to be on the carpet
1108
00:34:49,588 --> 00:34:50,253
and look, I didn't even have
clearance to be on the carpet
that year.
1109
00:34:50,255 --> 00:34:51,621
Clearance to be on the carpet
that year.
They tried to arrest me.
1110
00:34:51,623 --> 00:34:52,789
That year.
They tried to arrest me.
I was running up --
1111
00:34:52,791 --> 00:34:53,924
they tried to arrest me.
I was running up --
can I tell y'all --
1112
00:34:53,926 --> 00:34:55,625
I was running up --
can I tell y'all --
I can tell y'all now because
1113
00:34:55,627 --> 00:34:56,893
can I tell y'all --
I can tell y'all now because
this is years later.
1114
00:34:56,895 --> 00:34:59,429
I can tell y'all now because
this is years later.
My original idea, I had these
1115
00:34:59,431 --> 00:35:02,032
this is years later.
My original idea, I had these
gold ak-47s and I was going to
1116
00:35:02,034 --> 00:35:04,501
my original idea, I had these
gold ak-47s and I was going to
go in there with the blanks,
1117
00:35:04,503 --> 00:35:05,735
gold ak-47s and I was going to
go in there with the blanks,
rush up in the red carpet,
1118
00:35:05,737 --> 00:35:08,572
go in there with the blanks,
rush up in the red carpet,
and... [ imitates machine gun
1119
00:35:08,574 --> 00:35:10,140
rush up in the red carpet,
and... [ imitates machine gun
fire, laughs ]
1120
00:35:10,142 --> 00:35:12,676
and... [ imitates machine gun
fire, laughs ]
my manager was like, "uh-uh.
1121
00:35:12,678 --> 00:35:16,146
Fire, laughs ]
my manager was like, "uh-uh.
Uh-uh, pimp, you can't do that."
1122
00:35:16,148 --> 00:35:17,881
my manager was like, "uh-uh.
Uh-uh, pimp, you can't do that."
so they never gave me no
1123
00:35:17,883 --> 00:35:19,616
uh-uh, pimp, you can't do that."
so they never gave me no
clearances, no passes or
1124
00:35:19,618 --> 00:35:21,485
so they never gave me no
clearances, no passes or
nothing, and people didn't
1125
00:35:21,487 --> 00:35:23,386
clearances, no passes or
nothing, and people didn't
necessarily know it was me.
1126
00:35:23,388 --> 00:35:24,921
Nothing, and people didn't
necessarily know it was me.
So I just stormed the gates.
1127
00:35:24,923 --> 00:35:26,590
Necessarily know it was me.
So I just stormed the gates.
I just walked through there and
1128
00:35:26,592 --> 00:35:28,225
so I just stormed the gates.
I just walked through there and
I trolled the whole situation.
1129
00:35:28,227 --> 00:35:30,393
I just walked through there and
I trolled the whole situation.
I tried to grab ryan seacrest
1130
00:35:30,395 --> 00:35:31,628
I trolled the whole situation.
I tried to grab ryan seacrest
and choke him.
1131
00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:33,563
I tried to grab ryan seacrest
and choke him.
You know, like... [ laughs ]
1132
00:35:33,565 --> 00:35:34,865
and choke him.
You know, like... [ laughs ]
you know, I was snatching at
1133
00:35:34,867 --> 00:35:36,133
you know, like... [ laughs ]
you know, I was snatching at
the cameras, you know, like
1134
00:35:36,135 --> 00:35:37,467
you know, I was snatching at
the cameras, you know, like
a bunch of stuff, just having
1135
00:35:37,469 --> 00:35:37,801
the cameras, you know, like
a bunch of stuff, just having
fun.
1136
00:35:37,803 --> 00:35:38,835
A bunch of stuff, just having
fun.
I thought it was fun.
1137
00:35:38,837 --> 00:35:40,170
Fun.
I thought it was fun.
I mean, I just thought it was
1138
00:35:40,172 --> 00:35:40,403
I thought it was fun.
I mean, I just thought it was
funny.
1139
00:35:44,742 --> 00:35:46,209
>> puff decided he wanted to
1140
00:35:46,344 --> 00:35:47,777
record all these albums and
1141
00:35:47,912 --> 00:35:49,412
produce, and he was like, "we
1142
00:35:49,547 --> 00:35:51,181
need some incredible writers to
1143
00:35:51,315 --> 00:35:51,748
come out to the bahamas."
1144
00:35:53,317 --> 00:35:57,487
>> green: So, he was like, "yo,
go through these beats, pick
what you like, and just take
1145
00:35:57,489 --> 00:35:59,156
go through these beats, pick
what you like, and just take
them and write to them in your
1146
00:35:59,158 --> 00:35:59,823
what you like, and just take
them and write to them in your
own time.
1147
00:35:59,825 --> 00:36:01,892
Them and write to them in your
own time.
I was like, "alright," so I
1148
00:36:01,894 --> 00:36:03,927
own time.
I was like, "alright," so I
picked these beats, and...
1149
00:36:03,929 --> 00:36:05,996
I was like, "alright," so I
picked these beats, and...
[ laughs ]
1150
00:36:05,998 --> 00:36:10,000
picked these beats, and...
[ laughs ]
I didn't feel like I could...
1151
00:36:10,002 --> 00:36:12,068
[ laughs ]
I didn't feel like I could...
Function and I was starting to
1152
00:36:12,070 --> 00:36:16,139
I didn't feel like I could...
Function and I was starting to
become anxious or whatever, so I
1153
00:36:16,141 --> 00:36:17,240
function and I was starting to
become anxious or whatever, so I
left.
1154
00:36:17,242 --> 00:36:19,042
Become anxious or whatever, so I
left.
I didn't write anything that
1155
00:36:19,044 --> 00:36:19,876
left.
I didn't write anything that
whole day.
1156
00:36:19,878 --> 00:36:21,211
I didn't write anything that
whole day.
Because y'all was there for a
1157
00:36:21,213 --> 00:36:21,645
whole day.
Because y'all was there for a
month.
1158
00:36:21,647 --> 00:36:22,179
Because y'all was there for a
month.
>> yeah.
1159
00:36:22,181 --> 00:36:23,513
Month.
>> yeah.
>> green: I stayed for a day.
1160
00:36:23,515 --> 00:36:25,048
>> yeah.
>> green: I stayed for a day.
I left in the middle of
1161
00:36:25,050 --> 00:36:26,783
>> green: I stayed for a day.
I left in the middle of
the night and I didn't tell
1162
00:36:26,785 --> 00:36:29,419
I left in the middle of
the night and I didn't tell
anybody that I was leaving.
1163
00:36:29,421 --> 00:36:31,288
The night and I didn't tell
anybody that I was leaving.
He was like, "yo."
1164
00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:32,355
anybody that I was leaving.
He was like, "yo."
[ laughs ]
1165
00:36:32,357 --> 00:36:34,424
he was like, "yo."
[ laughs ]
"playboy, you can't do business
1166
00:36:34,426 --> 00:36:35,559
[ laughs ]
"playboy, you can't do business
like this, bro.
1167
00:36:35,561 --> 00:36:36,726
"playboy, you can't do business
like this, bro.
Like, you could have told me.
1168
00:36:36,728 --> 00:36:37,527
Like this, bro.
Like, you could have told me.
Anything you need.
1169
00:36:37,529 --> 00:36:38,628
Like, you could have told me.
Anything you need.
I asked you 3 or 4 times if
1170
00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:39,696
anything you need.
I asked you 3 or 4 times if
there was anything that you
1171
00:36:39,698 --> 00:36:40,297
I asked you 3 or 4 times if
there was anything that you
needed, man.
1172
00:36:40,299 --> 00:36:41,565
There was anything that you
needed, man.
You could have told me whatever,
1173
00:36:41,567 --> 00:36:41,798
needed, man.
You could have told me whatever,
man."
1174
00:36:46,003 --> 00:36:51,841
>> green: I met my fiance,
shani, about 10 years ago,
in l.A..
1175
00:36:51,843 --> 00:36:53,109
Shani, about 10 years ago,
in l.A..
She's originally from
1176
00:36:53,111 --> 00:36:54,010
in l.A..
She's originally from
san francisco.
1177
00:36:54,012 --> 00:36:56,279
She's originally from
san francisco.
The story goes, we were both in
1178
00:36:56,281 --> 00:36:59,149
san francisco.
The story goes, we were both in
canada the weekend prior, and
1179
00:36:59,151 --> 00:37:01,685
the story goes, we were both in
canada the weekend prior, and
apparently, she was a fan
1180
00:37:01,687 --> 00:37:04,187
canada the weekend prior, and
apparently, she was a fan
of my music and I was doing
1181
00:37:04,189 --> 00:37:05,922
apparently, she was a fan
of my music and I was doing
a performance in canada, and her
1182
00:37:05,924 --> 00:37:07,591
of my music and I was doing
a performance in canada, and her
friend was like, "yo, your guy
1183
00:37:07,593 --> 00:37:08,959
a performance in canada, and her
friend was like, "yo, your guy
is in town doing a show.
1184
00:37:08,961 --> 00:37:09,960
Friend was like, "yo, your guy
is in town doing a show.
You want to go?"
1185
00:37:09,962 --> 00:37:11,294
is in town doing a show.
You want to go?"
and I guess she had a
1186
00:37:11,296 --> 00:37:13,163
you want to go?"
and I guess she had a
presentation earlier that day --
1187
00:37:13,165 --> 00:37:15,065
and I guess she had a
presentation earlier that day --
or, excuse me, earlier that next
1188
00:37:15,067 --> 00:37:16,833
presentation earlier that day --
or, excuse me, earlier that next
morning and wasn't going to be
1189
00:37:16,835 --> 00:37:17,901
or, excuse me, earlier that next
morning and wasn't going to be
able to make it.
1190
00:37:17,903 --> 00:37:19,769
Morning and wasn't going to be
able to make it.
So it turns out, if you guys
1191
00:37:19,771 --> 00:37:21,771
able to make it.
So it turns out, if you guys
have ever been to l.A., there's
1192
00:37:21,773 --> 00:37:23,139
so it turns out, if you guys
have ever been to l.A., there's
this car lot called
1193
00:37:23,141 --> 00:37:24,641
have ever been to l.A., there's
this car lot called
dream motors, right on
1194
00:37:24,643 --> 00:37:26,443
this car lot called
dream motors, right on
la cienega, you know what I
1195
00:37:26,445 --> 00:37:27,010
dream motors, right on
la cienega, you know what I
mean?
1196
00:37:27,012 --> 00:37:28,545
La cienega, you know what I
mean?
It's that straightaway coming
1197
00:37:28,547 --> 00:37:29,512
mean?
It's that straightaway coming
from the airport.
1198
00:37:29,514 --> 00:37:30,547
It's that straightaway coming
from the airport.
You cat miss it.
1199
00:37:30,549 --> 00:37:32,182
From the airport.
You cat miss it.
I was standing right there with
1200
00:37:32,184 --> 00:37:33,383
you cat miss it.
I was standing right there with
my back to the street,
1201
00:37:33,385 --> 00:37:36,152
I was standing right there with
my back to the street,
baseball cap, shorts, you know.
1202
00:37:36,154 --> 00:37:38,755
My back to the street,
baseball cap, shorts, you know.
I hear a voice over my shoulder
1203
00:37:38,757 --> 00:37:41,291
baseball cap, shorts, you know.
I hear a voice over my shoulder
saying, "hey, I love you, keep
1204
00:37:41,293 --> 00:37:42,892
I hear a voice over my shoulder
saying, "hey, I love you, keep
up the good work.
1205
00:37:42,894 --> 00:37:45,662
Saying, "hey, I love you, keep
up the good work.
Love what you do."
1206
00:37:45,664 --> 00:37:47,564
up the good work.
Love what you do."
and I turn around, I was like,
1207
00:37:47,566 --> 00:37:48,131
love what you do."
and I turn around, I was like,
"me?"
1208
00:37:48,133 --> 00:37:49,766
and I turn around, I was like,
"me?"
she was like, "yeah, you.
1209
00:37:49,768 --> 00:37:50,700
"me?"
she was like, "yeah, you.
I love you."
1210
00:37:50,702 --> 00:37:52,402
she was like, "yeah, you.
I love you."
I said, "I love you, too."
1211
00:37:52,404 --> 00:37:54,104
I love you."
I said, "I love you, too."
I said, "come and meet me."
1212
00:37:54,106 --> 00:37:56,072
I said, "I love you, too."
I said, "come and meet me."
[ laughs ] she's not in the lane
1213
00:37:56,074 --> 00:37:57,073
I said, "come and meet me."
[ laughs ] she's not in the lane
nearest to me.
1214
00:37:57,075 --> 00:37:58,908
[ laughs ] she's not in the lane
nearest to me.
There's, like, this three-lane
1215
00:37:58,910 --> 00:38:00,877
nearest to me.
There's, like, this three-lane
thing, so she's probably in that
1216
00:38:00,879 --> 00:38:02,779
there's, like, this three-lane
thing, so she's probably in that
second or that third lane over.
1217
00:38:02,781 --> 00:38:04,648
Thing, so she's probably in that
second or that third lane over.
So she got her way and cut off
1218
00:38:04,650 --> 00:38:07,684
second or that third lane over.
So she got her way and cut off
traffic to come in there, pulls
1219
00:38:07,686 --> 00:38:11,888
so she got her way and cut off
traffic to come in there, pulls
up, jump out, we speak,
1220
00:38:11,890 --> 00:38:13,256
traffic to come in there, pulls
up, jump out, we speak,
we exchange numbers.
1221
00:38:13,258 --> 00:38:15,625
Up, jump out, we speak,
we exchange numbers.
And I know this sounds cliche,
1222
00:38:15,627 --> 00:38:18,128
we exchange numbers.
And I know this sounds cliche,
but it's the truth -- as soon as
1223
00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:20,330
and I know this sounds cliche,
but it's the truth -- as soon as
I met her, I saved her in my
1224
00:38:20,332 --> 00:38:22,699
but it's the truth -- as soon as
I met her, I saved her in my
phone as "shani 'might could
1225
00:38:22,701 --> 00:38:26,670
I met her, I saved her in my
phone as "shani 'might could
be the one' james." [ laughs ]
1226
00:38:26,672 --> 00:38:29,773
phone as "shani 'might could
be the one' james." [ laughs ]
I swear -- I swear to god.
1227
00:38:29,775 --> 00:38:34,110
Be the one' james." [ laughs ]
I swear -- I swear to god.
My son, kingston, is my pride
1228
00:38:34,112 --> 00:38:35,779
I swear -- I swear to god.
My son, kingston, is my pride
and joy.
1229
00:38:35,781 --> 00:38:38,048
My son, kingston, is my pride
and joy.
I do find myself in present day,
1230
00:38:38,050 --> 00:38:39,983
and joy.
I do find myself in present day,
making up for a lot of lost
1231
00:38:39,985 --> 00:38:44,854
I do find myself in present day,
making up for a lot of lost
time, trying to...Provide,
1232
00:38:44,856 --> 00:38:45,655
making up for a lot of lost
time, trying to...Provide,
you know?
1233
00:38:45,657 --> 00:38:47,691
Time, trying to...Provide,
you know?
And success is very demanding,
1234
00:38:47,693 --> 00:38:51,494
you know?
And success is very demanding,
you know, but so is failure.
1235
00:38:51,496 --> 00:38:54,030
And success is very demanding,
you know, but so is failure.
And I realized in retrospect
1236
00:38:54,032 --> 00:38:56,366
you know, but so is failure.
And I realized in retrospect
that, you know, the spoils of
1237
00:38:56,368 --> 00:38:58,935
and I realized in retrospect
that, you know, the spoils of
success -- you know, materially,
1238
00:38:58,937 --> 00:39:00,837
that, you know, the spoils of
success -- you know, materially,
monetarily, yes, it doesn't
1239
00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:03,006
success -- you know, materially,
monetarily, yes, it doesn't
hurt, you know, but one thing it
1240
00:39:03,008 --> 00:39:04,841
monetarily, yes, it doesn't
hurt, you know, but one thing it
could never replace is the
1241
00:39:04,843 --> 00:39:06,776
hurt, you know, but one thing it
could never replace is the
tangible time that you spend
1242
00:39:06,778 --> 00:39:07,844
could never replace is the
tangible time that you spend
with someone.
1243
00:39:07,846 --> 00:39:10,113
Tangible time that you spend
with someone.
He just recently got his first
1244
00:39:10,115 --> 00:39:12,248
with someone.
He just recently got his first
apartment about a year or so
1245
00:39:12,250 --> 00:39:12,816
he just recently got his first
apartment about a year or so
ago.
1246
00:39:12,818 --> 00:39:14,484
Apartment about a year or so
ago.
You know, I went and bought me
1247
00:39:14,486 --> 00:39:15,919
ago.
You know, I went and bought me
a little air mattress and
1248
00:39:15,921 --> 00:39:17,454
you know, I went and bought me
a little air mattress and
dressed out the guest room,
1249
00:39:17,456 --> 00:39:19,255
a little air mattress and
dressed out the guest room,
just, you know, in case I was in
1250
00:39:19,257 --> 00:39:19,723
dressed out the guest room,
just, you know, in case I was in
town.
1251
00:39:19,725 --> 00:39:21,224
Just, you know, in case I was in
town.
Go over there and crash with him
1252
00:39:21,226 --> 00:39:22,225
town.
Go over there and crash with him
and stuff like that.
1253
00:39:22,227 --> 00:39:23,660
Go over there and crash with him
and stuff like that.
And you know -- and I was kind
1254
00:39:23,662 --> 00:39:25,095
and stuff like that.
And you know -- and I was kind
of, like, living out my college
1255
00:39:25,097 --> 00:39:26,563
and you know -- and I was kind
of, like, living out my college
days, too, because I never went
1256
00:39:26,565 --> 00:39:27,163
of, like, living out my college
days, too, because I never went
to school.
1257
00:39:27,165 --> 00:39:28,498
Days, too, because I never went
to school.
Like, I never had that
1258
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:30,233
to school.
Like, I never had that
experience for myself, so, you
1259
00:39:30,235 --> 00:39:31,901
like, I never had that
experience for myself, so, you
know -- you know, being a big
1260
00:39:31,903 --> 00:39:33,536
experience for myself, so, you
know -- you know, being a big
kid with my son and all that
1261
00:39:33,538 --> 00:39:34,471
know -- you know, being a big
kid with my son and all that
kind of stuff.
1262
00:39:34,473 --> 00:39:36,806
Kid with my son and all that
kind of stuff.
So, like, you know, we're closer
1263
00:39:36,808 --> 00:39:39,042
kind of stuff.
So, like, you know, we're closer
than we've ever been, you know,
1264
00:39:39,044 --> 00:39:39,809
so, like, you know, we're closer
than we've ever been, you know,
as men.
1265
00:39:39,811 --> 00:39:42,479
Than we've ever been, you know,
as men.
Sierra, kalah, they're both
1266
00:39:42,481 --> 00:39:45,348
as men.
Sierra, kalah, they're both
my step-daughters from a former
1267
00:39:45,350 --> 00:39:48,351
sierra, kalah, they're both
my step-daughters from a former
marriage, and they're like my --
1268
00:39:48,353 --> 00:39:51,321
my step-daughters from a former
marriage, and they're like my --
they're like my daughters, and I
1269
00:39:51,323 --> 00:39:55,191
marriage, and they're like my --
they're like my daughters, and I
got them really young.
1270
00:39:55,193 --> 00:39:56,493
They're like my daughters, and I
got them really young.
Love them.
1271
00:39:56,495 --> 00:39:59,763
Got them really young.
Love them.
They became adults overnight and
1272
00:39:59,765 --> 00:40:02,732
love them.
They became adults overnight and
made decisions for themselves
1273
00:40:02,734 --> 00:40:08,838
they became adults overnight and
made decisions for themselves
that are...Irreversible, you
1274
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,906
made decisions for themselves
that are...Irreversible, you
know what I'm saying?
1275
00:40:09,908 --> 00:40:11,307
That are...Irreversible, you
know what I'm saying?
I've told them on a number of
1276
00:40:11,309 --> 00:40:12,709
know what I'm saying?
I've told them on a number of
different occasions that, you
1277
00:40:12,711 --> 00:40:14,077
I've told them on a number of
different occasions that, you
know, parenting is not always
1278
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:15,612
different occasions that, you
know, parenting is not always
about problem-solving, it's also
1279
00:40:15,614 --> 00:40:16,513
know, parenting is not always
about problem-solving, it's also
about prevention.
1280
00:40:16,515 --> 00:40:18,648
About problem-solving, it's also
about prevention.
A lot of the things that we go
1281
00:40:18,650 --> 00:40:20,450
about prevention.
A lot of the things that we go
through, you know, in our
1282
00:40:20,452 --> 00:40:23,486
a lot of the things that we go
through, you know, in our
domestic lives, you want to see
1283
00:40:23,488 --> 00:40:26,489
through, you know, in our
domestic lives, you want to see
your kids, you know, avoid some
1284
00:40:26,491 --> 00:40:28,858
domestic lives, you want to see
your kids, you know, avoid some
of those same pitfalls.
1285
00:40:28,860 --> 00:40:30,894
Your kids, you know, avoid some
of those same pitfalls.
But as long as they're happy,
1286
00:40:30,896 --> 00:40:32,729
of those same pitfalls.
But as long as they're happy,
you know what I'm saying?
1287
00:40:32,731 --> 00:40:34,831
But as long as they're happy,
you know what I'm saying?
And you know, I love all of my
1288
00:40:34,833 --> 00:40:36,266
you know what I'm saying?
And you know, I love all of my
little grandbabies.
1289
00:40:36,268 --> 00:40:38,735
And you know, I love all of my
little grandbabies.
True is my big boy.
1290
00:40:38,737 --> 00:40:40,904
Little grandbabies.
True is my big boy.
You know, true reminds me so
1291
00:40:40,906 --> 00:40:43,339
true is my big boy.
You know, true reminds me so
much of myself when I was a kid.
1292
00:40:43,341 --> 00:40:45,708
You know, true reminds me so
much of myself when I was a kid.
I wish nothing but the best for
1293
00:40:45,710 --> 00:40:46,309
much of myself when I was a kid.
I wish nothing but the best for
him.
1294
00:40:46,311 --> 00:40:50,513
I wish nothing but the best for
him.
This is sierra's first and only
1295
00:40:50,515 --> 00:40:51,815
him.
This is sierra's first and only
son.
1296
00:40:51,817 --> 00:40:55,919
This is sierra's first and only
son.
But kalah, who was my quiet one,
1297
00:40:55,921 --> 00:40:58,154
son.
But kalah, who was my quiet one,
she ended up being mother nature
1298
00:40:58,156 --> 00:41:00,457
but kalah, who was my quiet one,
she ended up being mother nature
over there. [ laughs ]
1299
00:41:00,459 --> 00:41:03,626
she ended up being mother nature
over there. [ laughs ]
she got four little babies now.
1300
00:41:03,628 --> 00:41:05,728
Over there. [ laughs ]
she got four little babies now.
I got a house full of
1301
00:41:05,730 --> 00:41:08,665
she got four little babies now.
I got a house full of
grandbabies, so I'm the coolest
1302
00:41:08,667 --> 00:41:09,098
I got a house full of
grandbabies, so I'm the coolest
grandad you know.
1303
00:41:11,402 --> 00:41:12,902
I'm obedient, you know, and I
1304
00:41:13,037 --> 00:41:16,506
adhere to the will of god and
1305
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,175
what the universe has in store
1306
00:41:19,310 --> 00:41:20,076
for me.
1307
00:41:20,211 --> 00:41:22,078
I'm just always at an earning
1308
00:41:22,213 --> 00:41:23,880
and deserving disposition.
1309
00:41:24,014 --> 00:41:25,482
You know, just trying to be
1310
00:41:25,616 --> 00:41:26,850
the best man, the best
1311
00:41:26,984 --> 00:41:28,551
human being, the best person,
1312
00:41:28,686 --> 00:41:30,086
the best friend, the best
1313
00:41:30,221 --> 00:41:31,888
brother, the best father that I
1314
00:41:32,022 --> 00:41:35,325
can be, you know.
1315
00:41:35,459 --> 00:41:36,960
And perfection is not required,
1316
00:41:37,094 --> 00:41:38,161
you know what I mean?
1317
00:41:38,295 --> 00:41:39,529
Persistence is, so I just
1318
00:41:39,663 --> 00:41:40,129
persist to be these things.