1 00:00:00,633 --> 00:00:04,036 >> green: You know, I can recall a time where I didn't have anything positive to say, then 2 00:00:04,038 --> 00:00:05,738 a time where I didn't have anything positive to say, then all of a sudden, everything 3 00:00:05,740 --> 00:00:07,873 anything positive to say, then all of a sudden, everything I wished to say, you know, is to 4 00:00:07,875 --> 00:00:10,042 all of a sudden, everything I wished to say, you know, is to convey message and give hope and 5 00:00:10,044 --> 00:00:11,310 I wished to say, you know, is to convey message and give hope and give strength and give 6 00:00:11,312 --> 00:00:13,045 convey message and give hope and give strength and give encouragement and enlightenment. 7 00:00:13,047 --> 00:00:15,981 Give strength and give encouragement and enlightenment. I guess it's because I needed 8 00:00:15,983 --> 00:00:17,383 encouragement and enlightenment. I guess it's because I needed it, too, you know what I mean? 9 00:00:17,385 --> 00:00:19,485 I guess it's because I needed it, too, you know what I mean? And I believe that goodie mob 10 00:00:19,487 --> 00:00:21,086 it, too, you know what I mean? And I believe that goodie mob was a saving grace because it 11 00:00:21,088 --> 00:00:22,721 and I believe that goodie mob was a saving grace because it was the family that I needed, 12 00:00:22,723 --> 00:00:24,323 was a saving grace because it was the family that I needed, you know, in my time of loss, 13 00:00:24,325 --> 00:00:26,692 was the family that I needed, you know, in my time of loss, and it was the catharticism I 14 00:00:26,694 --> 00:00:29,862 you know, in my time of loss, and it was the catharticism I needed, you know, to be able to 15 00:00:29,864 --> 00:00:31,864 and it was the catharticism I needed, you know, to be able to express and to vent and to be 16 00:00:31,866 --> 00:00:33,832 needed, you know, to be able to express and to vent and to be heard and to be embraced and 17 00:00:33,834 --> 00:00:34,767 express and to vent and to be heard and to be embraced and understood. 18 00:00:34,769 --> 00:00:36,035 Heard and to be embraced and understood. I think essentially, it was 19 00:00:36,037 --> 00:00:38,237 understood. I think essentially, it was a coping mechanism for me. 20 00:00:38,239 --> 00:00:40,639 I think essentially, it was a coping mechanism for me. I didn't -- I didn't know any of 21 00:00:40,641 --> 00:00:43,809 a coping mechanism for me. I didn't -- I didn't know any of my notions or, you know, or 22 00:00:43,811 --> 00:00:48,147 I didn't -- I didn't know any of my notions or, you know, or anything about me was eccentric 23 00:00:48,149 --> 00:00:51,450 my notions or, you know, or anything about me was eccentric or unique or bizarre. 24 00:00:51,452 --> 00:00:54,887 Anything about me was eccentric or unique or bizarre. But it was. 25 00:00:54,889 --> 00:00:56,855 Or unique or bizarre. But it was. [ laughs ] 26 00:00:56,857 --> 00:00:59,925 -- captions by vitac -- www.Vitac.Com 27 00:01:00,126 --> 00:01:26,852 ♪ ♪ ♪ 28 00:01:26,854 --> 00:01:29,188 ♪ ♪ I was born and raised in 29 00:01:29,190 --> 00:01:31,356 ♪ I was born and raised in atlanta, georgia. 30 00:01:31,358 --> 00:01:32,624 I was born and raised in atlanta, georgia. I have one sibling -- I have 31 00:01:32,626 --> 00:01:33,459 atlanta, georgia. I have one sibling -- I have an older sister. 32 00:01:33,461 --> 00:01:35,561 I have one sibling -- I have an older sister. A single-parent household, 33 00:01:35,563 --> 00:01:37,229 an older sister. A single-parent household, but a crowded house. 34 00:01:37,231 --> 00:01:38,530 A single-parent household, but a crowded house. I grew up with my entire family 35 00:01:38,532 --> 00:01:39,698 but a crowded house. I grew up with my entire family in one house -- maybe about 36 00:01:39,700 --> 00:01:40,699 I grew up with my entire family in one house -- maybe about 15 people. 37 00:01:40,701 --> 00:01:42,334 In one house -- maybe about 15 people. Talking about a grandmother, 38 00:01:42,336 --> 00:01:44,069 15 people. Talking about a grandmother, a great-grandmother, a mother, 39 00:01:44,071 --> 00:01:45,471 talking about a grandmother, a great-grandmother, a mother, an auntie, two cousins, 40 00:01:45,473 --> 00:01:47,406 a great-grandmother, a mother, an auntie, two cousins, a sister, an uncle, and 41 00:01:47,408 --> 00:01:48,440 an auntie, two cousins, a sister, an uncle, and an auntie. 42 00:01:48,442 --> 00:01:49,441 A sister, an uncle, and an auntie. [ laughs ] 43 00:01:49,443 --> 00:01:51,243 an auntie. [ laughs ] a lot of love growing up. 44 00:01:51,245 --> 00:01:53,312 [ laughs ] a lot of love growing up. Both my mother and father were 45 00:01:53,314 --> 00:01:54,746 a lot of love growing up. Both my mother and father were ordained ministers. 46 00:01:54,748 --> 00:01:56,515 Both my mother and father were ordained ministers. I lost my father very early. 47 00:01:56,517 --> 00:01:58,250 Ordained ministers. I lost my father very early. I lost my father when I was 48 00:01:58,252 --> 00:02:00,085 I lost my father very early. I lost my father when I was about 2 years old, and I lost 49 00:02:00,087 --> 00:02:01,954 I lost my father when I was about 2 years old, and I lost my mother when I was about 17. 50 00:02:01,956 --> 00:02:03,856 About 2 years old, and I lost my mother when I was about 17. I do remember the significance 51 00:02:03,858 --> 00:02:07,993 my mother when I was about 17. I do remember the significance of the loss, I just had not... 52 00:02:07,995 --> 00:02:09,561 I do remember the significance of the loss, I just had not... Experienced the significance of 53 00:02:09,563 --> 00:02:11,096 of the loss, I just had not... Experienced the significance of having a father at all, because 54 00:02:11,098 --> 00:02:12,631 experienced the significance of having a father at all, because I was very young and I did not 55 00:02:12,633 --> 00:02:13,699 having a father at all, because I was very young and I did not know the difference. 56 00:02:13,701 --> 00:02:15,901 I was very young and I did not know the difference. But I do remember the day of his 57 00:02:15,903 --> 00:02:17,936 know the difference. But I do remember the day of his passing and the processional. 58 00:02:17,938 --> 00:02:19,738 But I do remember the day of his passing and the processional. I think the craving for a male 59 00:02:19,740 --> 00:02:21,540 passing and the processional. I think the craving for a male figure and presence in my life 60 00:02:21,542 --> 00:02:23,142 I think the craving for a male figure and presence in my life was more subconscious than 61 00:02:23,144 --> 00:02:26,011 figure and presence in my life was more subconscious than conscious, but I can say there 62 00:02:26,013 --> 00:02:28,847 was more subconscious than conscious, but I can say there was a reoccurrence of multiple 63 00:02:28,849 --> 00:02:33,886 conscious, but I can say there was a reoccurrence of multiple male presences, you know, 64 00:02:33,888 --> 00:02:36,188 was a reoccurrence of multiple male presences, you know, throughout my young, adolescent 65 00:02:36,190 --> 00:02:36,822 male presences, you know, throughout my young, adolescent life. 66 00:02:36,824 --> 00:02:38,790 Throughout my young, adolescent life. I remember there used to be such 67 00:02:38,792 --> 00:02:40,559 life. I remember there used to be such a thing called a big brother 68 00:02:40,561 --> 00:02:41,994 I remember there used to be such a thing called a big brother program, so I remember 69 00:02:41,996 --> 00:02:42,861 a thing called a big brother program, so I remember mr. Bailey. 70 00:02:42,863 --> 00:02:44,263 Program, so I remember mr. Bailey. He used to come and pick me up 71 00:02:44,265 --> 00:02:45,397 mr. Bailey. He used to come and pick me up and take me to baseball 72 00:02:45,399 --> 00:02:45,964 he used to come and pick me up and take me to baseball practice. 73 00:02:45,966 --> 00:02:48,267 And take me to baseball practice. You know, and then we ultimately 74 00:02:48,269 --> 00:02:49,968 practice. You know, and then we ultimately found a church home at 75 00:02:49,970 --> 00:02:51,170 you know, and then we ultimately found a church home at fellowship of faith 76 00:02:51,172 --> 00:02:52,671 found a church home at fellowship of faith international in atlanta, 77 00:02:52,673 --> 00:02:55,207 fellowship of faith international in atlanta, georgia, in east point. 78 00:02:55,209 --> 00:02:58,310 International in atlanta, georgia, in east point. And I remember brother jim avery 79 00:02:58,312 --> 00:03:00,312 georgia, in east point. And I remember brother jim avery took a liking to me, and him and 80 00:03:00,314 --> 00:03:02,314 and I remember brother jim avery took a liking to me, and him and my mother ended up being really 81 00:03:02,316 --> 00:03:04,216 took a liking to me, and him and my mother ended up being really good friends for a long time. 82 00:03:04,218 --> 00:03:06,118 My mother ended up being really good friends for a long time. In short, I had a lot of love 83 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,986 good friends for a long time. In short, I had a lot of love and had a lot of support over 84 00:03:07,988 --> 00:03:08,820 in short, I had a lot of love and had a lot of support over the years. 85 00:03:08,822 --> 00:03:12,157 And had a lot of support over the years. My mother was dynamic in a way 86 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:16,028 the years. My mother was dynamic in a way of where, you know, she was... 87 00:03:16,030 --> 00:03:19,998 My mother was dynamic in a way of where, you know, she was... This...Mixture of male energy 88 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,200 of where, you know, she was... This...Mixture of male energy and female energy. 89 00:03:21,202 --> 00:03:25,170 This...Mixture of male energy and female energy. It gave her a harder exterior, 90 00:03:25,172 --> 00:03:26,305 and female energy. It gave her a harder exterior, you know what I mean? 91 00:03:26,307 --> 00:03:27,839 It gave her a harder exterior, you know what I mean? And a little difficult to deal 92 00:03:27,841 --> 00:03:29,174 you know what I mean? And a little difficult to deal with at times, but she was 93 00:03:29,176 --> 00:03:37,316 and a little difficult to deal with at times, but she was a very driven and motivated 94 00:03:37,318 --> 00:03:38,750 with at times, but she was a very driven and motivated mover and shaker. 95 00:03:38,752 --> 00:03:41,320 A very driven and motivated mover and shaker. My mother was something else -- 96 00:03:41,322 --> 00:03:44,856 mover and shaker. My mother was something else -- independent, enterprising, 97 00:03:44,858 --> 00:03:50,295 my mother was something else -- independent, enterprising, ambitious, audacious, you know, 98 00:03:50,297 --> 00:03:51,697 independent, enterprising, ambitious, audacious, you know, and accomplished quite a lot. 99 00:03:51,699 --> 00:03:53,165 Ambitious, audacious, you know, and accomplished quite a lot. My mother was a special woman. 100 00:03:53,167 --> 00:03:55,734 And accomplished quite a lot. My mother was a special woman. On her own personal plight and 101 00:03:55,736 --> 00:03:58,437 my mother was a special woman. On her own personal plight and pursuit of happiness, we kind of 102 00:03:58,439 --> 00:04:02,941 on her own personal plight and pursuit of happiness, we kind of oversighted the maternal nature 103 00:04:02,943 --> 00:04:04,376 pursuit of happiness, we kind of oversighted the maternal nature of, you know, typical or 104 00:04:04,378 --> 00:04:05,711 oversighted the maternal nature of, you know, typical or traditional mothering. 105 00:04:05,713 --> 00:04:07,512 Of, you know, typical or traditional mothering. But, you know, her way and her 106 00:04:07,514 --> 00:04:09,381 traditional mothering. But, you know, her way and her approach, you know, had a great 107 00:04:09,383 --> 00:04:11,250 but, you know, her way and her approach, you know, had a great deal to do with who I am today. 108 00:04:11,252 --> 00:04:12,784 Approach, you know, had a great deal to do with who I am today. So no complaints. 109 00:04:12,786 --> 00:04:14,519 Deal to do with who I am today. So no complaints. If I could say anybody helped 110 00:04:14,521 --> 00:04:16,288 so no complaints. If I could say anybody helped raise me and my sister, was us 111 00:04:16,290 --> 00:04:18,156 if I could say anybody helped raise me and my sister, was us raising each other, pretty much. 112 00:04:18,158 --> 00:04:20,058 Raise me and my sister, was us raising each other, pretty much. We were what they called at that 113 00:04:20,060 --> 00:04:21,360 raising each other, pretty much. We were what they called at that time latch key kids. 114 00:04:21,362 --> 00:04:23,629 We were what they called at that time latch key kids. So, you know, you got that key 115 00:04:23,631 --> 00:04:25,731 time latch key kids. So, you know, you got that key tied around your neck with a 116 00:04:25,733 --> 00:04:27,666 so, you know, you got that key tied around your neck with a shoestring and, you know, 117 00:04:27,668 --> 00:04:29,568 tied around your neck with a shoestring and, you know, a couple of tokens for the bus 118 00:04:29,570 --> 00:04:33,438 shoestring and, you know, a couple of tokens for the bus and some fish sticks. [ laughs ] 119 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,108 a couple of tokens for the bus and some fish sticks. [ laughs ] you know what I mean? 120 00:04:36,110 --> 00:04:37,209 And some fish sticks. [ laughs ] you know what I mean? Don't answer the phone, 121 00:04:37,211 --> 00:04:37,776 you know what I mean? Don't answer the phone, you know. 122 00:04:37,778 --> 00:04:39,111 Don't answer the phone, you know. If it's me calling, then let it 123 00:04:39,113 --> 00:04:40,245 you know. If it's me calling, then let it ring twice then hang up or 124 00:04:40,247 --> 00:04:41,179 if it's me calling, then let it ring twice then hang up or something like that. 125 00:04:41,181 --> 00:04:43,015 Ring twice then hang up or something like that. My older sister took care of me 126 00:04:43,017 --> 00:04:44,182 something like that. My older sister took care of me a lot of the time. 127 00:04:44,184 --> 00:04:45,584 My older sister took care of me a lot of the time. I'm really grateful for 128 00:04:45,586 --> 00:04:47,686 a lot of the time. I'm really grateful for my sister. 129 00:04:47,688 --> 00:04:52,557 I'm really grateful for my sister. As a kid in school, I was 130 00:04:52,559 --> 00:04:54,526 my sister. As a kid in school, I was something else. 131 00:04:54,528 --> 00:04:56,128 As a kid in school, I was something else. It only is revealed to me in 132 00:04:56,130 --> 00:05:00,832 something else. It only is revealed to me in retrospect that..I was always 133 00:05:00,834 --> 00:05:03,035 it only is revealed to me in retrospect that..I was always an artist. 134 00:05:03,037 --> 00:05:06,004 Retrospect that..I was always an artist. Just without the encouragement 135 00:05:06,006 --> 00:05:08,473 an artist. Just without the encouragement or the outlet, you know? 136 00:05:08,475 --> 00:05:14,780 Just without the encouragement or the outlet, you know? So, a lot of it...Manifested 137 00:05:14,782 --> 00:05:18,550 or the outlet, you know? So, a lot of it...Manifested itself as disobedience and 138 00:05:18,552 --> 00:05:20,185 so, a lot of it...Manifested itself as disobedience and incoherence, you know. 139 00:05:20,187 --> 00:05:24,323 Itself as disobedience and incoherence, you know. I couldn't focus, you know, on 140 00:05:24,325 --> 00:05:25,457 incoherence, you know. I couldn't focus, you know, on the lesson at hand. 141 00:05:25,459 --> 00:05:26,958 I couldn't focus, you know, on the lesson at hand. I was easily distracted. 142 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,427 The lesson at hand. I was easily distracted. I just didn't have 143 00:05:28,429 --> 00:05:30,729 I was easily distracted. I just didn't have a constructive way to convey it 144 00:05:30,731 --> 00:05:31,863 I just didn't have a constructive way to convey it at that time. 145 00:05:31,865 --> 00:05:33,231 A constructive way to convey it at that time. And also, I grew up in church, 146 00:05:33,233 --> 00:05:36,835 at that time. And also, I grew up in church, so gospel music was where 147 00:05:36,837 --> 00:05:40,105 and also, I grew up in church, so gospel music was where everything, you know, was like 148 00:05:40,107 --> 00:05:41,473 so gospel music was where everything, you know, was like a culmination. 149 00:05:41,475 --> 00:05:43,375 Everything, you know, was like a culmination. Me losing my father so early, 150 00:05:43,377 --> 00:05:45,377 a culmination. Me losing my father so early, I found -- I found a connection 151 00:05:45,379 --> 00:05:47,245 me losing my father so early, I found -- I found a connection in the voices of soul men of 152 00:05:47,247 --> 00:05:48,914 I found -- I found a connection in the voices of soul men of that time, whether it was 153 00:05:48,916 --> 00:05:49,748 in the voices of soul men of that time, whether it was the blues. 154 00:05:49,750 --> 00:05:51,717 That time, whether it was the blues. A good friend of my mother's, 155 00:05:51,719 --> 00:05:53,485 the blues. A good friend of my mother's, alley pat, who was a radio 156 00:05:53,487 --> 00:05:55,620 a good friend of my mother's, alley pat, who was a radio personality at that time, and he 157 00:05:55,622 --> 00:05:57,356 alley pat, who was a radio personality at that time, and he gave me a box of 45s, and so 158 00:05:57,358 --> 00:05:59,191 personality at that time, and he gave me a box of 45s, and so that way, I discovered 159 00:05:59,193 --> 00:06:01,426 gave me a box of 45s, and so that way, I discovered johnnie taylor and z.Z. Hill 160 00:06:01,428 --> 00:06:03,061 that way, I discovered johnnie taylor and z.Z. Hill and bobby blue bland and 161 00:06:03,063 --> 00:06:04,830 johnnie taylor and z.Z. Hill and bobby blue bland and b.B. King and all of those 162 00:06:04,832 --> 00:06:06,865 and bobby blue bland and b.B. King and all of those voices that the tonalities just 163 00:06:06,867 --> 00:06:08,667 b.B. King and all of those voices that the tonalities just sounded like mature men. 164 00:06:08,669 --> 00:06:10,802 Voices that the tonalities just sounded like mature men. I picked up on a lot of those 165 00:06:10,804 --> 00:06:12,604 sounded like mature men. I picked up on a lot of those inflections, and they ended up 166 00:06:12,606 --> 00:06:14,172 I picked up on a lot of those inflections, and they ended up ultimately becoming my own 167 00:06:14,174 --> 00:06:14,740 inflections, and they ended up ultimately becoming my own voice. 168 00:06:14,742 --> 00:06:17,008 Ultimately becoming my own voice. All of those names inspired 169 00:06:17,010 --> 00:06:20,912 voice. All of those names inspired my path, you know, musically, 170 00:06:20,914 --> 00:06:25,650 all of those names inspired my path, you know, musically, and I wanted to...Emulate it. 171 00:06:25,652 --> 00:06:27,719 My path, you know, musically, and I wanted to...Emulate it. I always had an older taste -- 172 00:06:27,721 --> 00:06:29,621 and I wanted to...Emulate it. I always had an older taste -- older taste in music, cars, 173 00:06:29,623 --> 00:06:30,822 I always had an older taste -- older taste in music, cars, clothes, women. 174 00:06:30,824 --> 00:06:32,491 Older taste in music, cars, clothes, women. A lot of what, you know, has 175 00:06:32,493 --> 00:06:34,259 clothes, women. A lot of what, you know, has become my own music and career 176 00:06:34,261 --> 00:06:36,128 a lot of what, you know, has become my own music and career is really based off an imitation 177 00:06:36,130 --> 00:06:36,795 become my own music and career is really based off an imitation of life. 178 00:06:36,797 --> 00:06:38,330 Is really based off an imitation of life. All of those older guys giving 179 00:06:38,332 --> 00:06:39,865 of life. All of those older guys giving me game, you know what I mean, 180 00:06:39,867 --> 00:06:41,333 all of those older guys giving me game, you know what I mean, but me just picking up on it. 181 00:06:41,335 --> 00:06:43,835 Me game, you know what I mean, but me just picking up on it. And eventually, I became myself 182 00:06:43,837 --> 00:06:45,137 but me just picking up on it. And eventually, I became myself because of it. 183 00:06:45,139 --> 00:06:47,806 And eventually, I became myself because of it. The guys in goodie mob were guys 184 00:06:47,808 --> 00:06:50,409 because of it. The guys in goodie mob were guys from the neighborhood -- myself 185 00:06:50,411 --> 00:06:52,110 the guys in goodie mob were guys from the neighborhood -- myself and t-mo goodie grew up in 186 00:06:52,112 --> 00:06:54,112 from the neighborhood -- myself and t-mo goodie grew up in the same neighborhood, a street 187 00:06:54,114 --> 00:06:55,147 and t-mo goodie grew up in the same neighborhood, a street over, which -- 188 00:06:55,149 --> 00:06:56,581 the same neighborhood, a street over, which -- he's my sister's age. 189 00:06:56,583 --> 00:06:58,617 Over, which -- he's my sister's age. My sister, shedonna, graduated 190 00:06:58,619 --> 00:07:02,220 he's my sister's age. My sister, shedonna, graduated with t-mo, khujo, and big gipp, 191 00:07:02,222 --> 00:07:04,890 my sister, shedonna, graduated with t-mo, khujo, and big gipp, class of '90, benjamin e. Mays 192 00:07:04,892 --> 00:07:07,592 with t-mo, khujo, and big gipp, class of '90, benjamin e. Mays high school, southwest atlanta, 193 00:07:07,594 --> 00:07:08,593 class of '90, benjamin e. Mays high school, southwest atlanta, georgia. 194 00:07:08,595 --> 00:07:10,295 High school, southwest atlanta, georgia. I just so happened to know t-mo 195 00:07:10,297 --> 00:07:11,963 georgia. I just so happened to know t-mo because we grew up in the same 196 00:07:11,965 --> 00:07:13,598 I just so happened to know t-mo because we grew up in the same neighborhood -- a street over 197 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,300 because we grew up in the same neighborhood -- a street over from each other, as a matter of 198 00:07:15,302 --> 00:07:15,767 neighborhood -- a street over from each other, as a matter of fact. 199 00:07:15,769 --> 00:07:17,536 From each other, as a matter of fact. You know, he was a few years 200 00:07:17,538 --> 00:07:19,271 fact. You know, he was a few years older than me, but there was 201 00:07:19,273 --> 00:07:20,772 you know, he was a few years older than me, but there was something about him and 202 00:07:20,774 --> 00:07:22,574 older than me, but there was something about him and something about his eyes that 203 00:07:22,576 --> 00:07:24,509 something about him and something about his eyes that were always so memorable to me. 204 00:07:24,511 --> 00:07:27,112 Something about his eyes that were always so memorable to me. Brandon peters, killer b, and 205 00:07:27,114 --> 00:07:29,815 were always so memorable to me. Brandon peters, killer b, and james douglas, j.D., god bless 206 00:07:29,817 --> 00:07:32,217 brandon peters, killer b, and james douglas, j.D., god bless the dead, ended up being 207 00:07:32,219 --> 00:07:33,618 james douglas, j.D., god bless the dead, ended up being my managers. 208 00:07:33,620 --> 00:07:34,619 The dead, ended up being my managers. There's another good friend of 209 00:07:34,621 --> 00:07:35,554 my managers. There's another good friend of ours from high school named 210 00:07:35,556 --> 00:07:36,555 there's another good friend of ours from high school named glen cook. 211 00:07:36,557 --> 00:07:38,490 Ours from high school named glen cook. His house was, like, the party 212 00:07:38,492 --> 00:07:39,658 glen cook. His house was, like, the party house, you know. 213 00:07:39,660 --> 00:07:41,159 His house was, like, the party house, you know. Either we was cutting school to 214 00:07:41,161 --> 00:07:42,594 house, you know. Either we was cutting school to go over there and drink a beer 215 00:07:42,596 --> 00:07:44,029 either we was cutting school to go over there and drink a beer and hang out all day or he was 216 00:07:44,031 --> 00:07:45,497 go over there and drink a beer and hang out all day or he was having some type of cookout or 217 00:07:45,499 --> 00:07:46,832 and hang out all day or he was having some type of cookout or some type of function at his 218 00:07:46,834 --> 00:07:47,299 having some type of cookout or some type of function at his house. 219 00:07:47,301 --> 00:07:49,501 Some type of function at his house. And so we all ended up over here 220 00:07:49,503 --> 00:07:50,268 house. And so we all ended up over here one day. 221 00:07:50,270 --> 00:07:51,937 And so we all ended up over here one day. Just prior, I had heard 222 00:07:51,939 --> 00:07:56,975 one day. Just prior, I had heard the lumberjacks demo, and I 223 00:07:56,977 --> 00:07:59,077 just prior, I had heard the lumberjacks demo, and I ended up at this place, and I 224 00:07:59,079 --> 00:08:01,213 the lumberjacks demo, and I ended up at this place, and I walked up on a rap cypher, you 225 00:08:01,215 --> 00:08:02,581 ended up at this place, and I walked up on a rap cypher, you know what I mean? 226 00:08:02,583 --> 00:08:05,784 Walked up on a rap cypher, you know what I mean? And khujo says to me, "I heard 227 00:08:05,786 --> 00:08:07,052 know what I mean? And khujo says to me, "I heard you rap." 228 00:08:07,054 --> 00:08:08,987 and khujo says to me, "I heard you rap." and I was like, "I heard you 229 00:08:08,989 --> 00:08:09,554 you rap." and I was like, "I heard you rap." 230 00:08:09,556 --> 00:08:11,223 and I was like, "I heard you rap." so, you know, it wasn't 231 00:08:11,225 --> 00:08:13,391 rap." so, you know, it wasn't a battle, but it was just, like, 232 00:08:13,393 --> 00:08:15,227 so, you know, it wasn't a battle, but it was just, like, a -- it was like a cypher. 233 00:08:15,229 --> 00:08:16,628 A battle, but it was just, like, a -- it was like a cypher. So, you know, they pulled up 234 00:08:16,630 --> 00:08:18,096 a -- it was like a cypher. So, you know, they pulled up a beat and we rhymed with each 235 00:08:18,098 --> 00:08:19,564 so, you know, they pulled up a beat and we rhymed with each other and gipp chimed in, and, 236 00:08:19,566 --> 00:08:20,966 a beat and we rhymed with each other and gipp chimed in, and, you know, I don't even think 237 00:08:20,968 --> 00:08:22,434 other and gipp chimed in, and, you know, I don't even think t-mo was there, but, you know, 238 00:08:22,436 --> 00:08:23,802 you know, I don't even think t-mo was there, but, you know, it was cool, you know what I 239 00:08:23,804 --> 00:08:24,236 t-mo was there, but, you know, it was cool, you know what I mean? 240 00:08:24,238 --> 00:08:25,871 It was cool, you know what I mean? Like, there was a camaraderie 241 00:08:25,873 --> 00:08:27,572 mean? Like, there was a camaraderie there because we all knew each 242 00:08:27,574 --> 00:08:29,207 like, there was a camaraderie there because we all knew each other, and it just so happens 243 00:08:29,209 --> 00:08:30,709 there because we all knew each other, and it just so happens that b and j.D. Started to 244 00:08:30,711 --> 00:08:32,310 other, and it just so happens that b and j.D. Started to manage me after this cypher. 245 00:08:32,312 --> 00:08:33,745 That b and j.D. Started to manage me after this cypher. They ended up taking me over to 246 00:08:33,747 --> 00:08:35,213 manage me after this cypher. They ended up taking me over to the dungeon, but it turns out I 247 00:08:35,215 --> 00:08:36,648 they ended up taking me over to the dungeon, but it turns out I had already been to the dungeon 248 00:08:36,650 --> 00:08:38,116 the dungeon, but it turns out I had already been to the dungeon because of my other friend, call 249 00:08:38,118 --> 00:08:38,884 had already been to the dungeon because of my other friend, call him fat keith. 250 00:08:38,886 --> 00:08:40,385 Because of my other friend, call him fat keith. We're hanging out in the mall -- 251 00:08:40,387 --> 00:08:41,720 him fat keith. We're hanging out in the mall -- I hung out in greenbriar mall 252 00:08:41,722 --> 00:08:42,854 we're hanging out in the mall -- I hung out in greenbriar mall every day after school. 253 00:08:42,856 --> 00:08:44,856 I hung out in greenbriar mall every day after school. I spent almost my entire life in 254 00:08:44,858 --> 00:08:45,690 every day after school. I spent almost my entire life in that mall. 255 00:08:45,692 --> 00:08:48,894 I spent almost my entire life in that mall. We see marqueze ethridge at 256 00:08:48,896 --> 00:08:50,662 that mall. We see marqueze ethridge at the payphone. 257 00:08:50,664 --> 00:08:51,897 We see marqueze ethridge at the payphone. Me and fat keith walk up on him. 258 00:08:51,899 --> 00:08:52,931 The payphone. Me and fat keith walk up on him. They know each other from 259 00:08:52,933 --> 00:08:53,431 me and fat keith walk up on him. They know each other from somewhere. 260 00:08:53,433 --> 00:08:55,000 They know each other from somewhere. "yo, what's up?" blah, blah, 261 00:08:55,002 --> 00:08:56,067 somewhere. "yo, what's up?" blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 262 00:08:56,069 --> 00:08:57,636 "yo, what's up?" blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Then, you know, at the time, 263 00:08:57,638 --> 00:08:59,337 blah, blah, blah. Then, you know, at the time, everybody was always, you know, 264 00:08:59,339 --> 00:09:02,274 then, you know, at the time, everybody was always, you know, supporting me on some, "yo, 265 00:09:02,276 --> 00:09:03,775 everybody was always, you know, supporting me on some, "yo, my man rap. 266 00:09:03,777 --> 00:09:05,610 Supporting me on some, "yo, my man rap. Check him out." 267 00:09:05,612 --> 00:09:07,746 my man rap. Check him out." so we went outside, I rhymed for 268 00:09:07,748 --> 00:09:09,781 check him out." so we went outside, I rhymed for him and I sang for him, and he 269 00:09:09,783 --> 00:09:11,816 so we went outside, I rhymed for him and I sang for him, and he was like, "I like your singing 270 00:09:11,818 --> 00:09:13,518 him and I sang for him, and he was like, "I like your singing more than your rapping." 271 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:14,853 was like, "I like your singing more than your rapping." he said, "as a matter of fact, I 272 00:09:14,855 --> 00:09:16,187 more than your rapping." he said, "as a matter of fact, I was on the phone trying to call 273 00:09:16,189 --> 00:09:17,122 he said, "as a matter of fact, I was on the phone trying to call over to the dungeon." 274 00:09:17,124 --> 00:09:18,223 was on the phone trying to call over to the dungeon." he was like, "I know they 275 00:09:18,225 --> 00:09:18,657 over to the dungeon." he was like, "I know they there." 276 00:09:18,659 --> 00:09:20,258 he was like, "I know they there." keith was like, "oh, I'll give 277 00:09:20,260 --> 00:09:21,526 there." keith was like, "oh, I'll give you a ride over there." 278 00:09:21,528 --> 00:09:23,061 keith was like, "oh, I'll give you a ride over there." so we end up taking him over 279 00:09:23,063 --> 00:09:23,562 you a ride over there." so we end up taking him over there. 280 00:09:23,564 --> 00:09:24,162 So we end up taking him over there. Oh, man. 281 00:09:24,164 --> 00:09:25,830 There. Oh, man. I'm just missing out on too many 282 00:09:25,832 --> 00:09:27,165 oh, man. I'm just missing out on too many parts of this story, yo. 283 00:09:27,167 --> 00:09:29,501 I'm just missing out on too many parts of this story, yo. Okay, let me try to add on to 284 00:09:29,503 --> 00:09:30,168 parts of this story, yo. Okay, let me try to add on to that. 285 00:09:30,170 --> 00:09:33,038 Okay, let me try to add on to that. Me and andre 3000 also went to 286 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,507 that. Me and andre 3000 also went to elementary school together, 287 00:09:35,509 --> 00:09:38,109 me and andre 3000 also went to elementary school together, and then I didn't see him for 288 00:09:38,111 --> 00:09:38,944 elementary school together, and then I didn't see him for years. 289 00:09:38,946 --> 00:09:40,145 And then I didn't see him for years. I didn't see him again until 290 00:09:40,147 --> 00:09:40,879 years. I didn't see him again until the 11th grade. 291 00:09:40,881 --> 00:09:42,380 I didn't see him again until the 11th grade. We had both dropped out of 292 00:09:42,382 --> 00:09:44,182 the 11th grade. We had both dropped out of high school and we were going to 293 00:09:44,184 --> 00:09:45,784 we had both dropped out of high school and we were going to what's called an alternative 294 00:09:45,786 --> 00:09:47,185 high school and we were going to what's called an alternative school -- frank mcclarin 295 00:09:47,187 --> 00:09:48,687 what's called an alternative school -- frank mcclarin alternative high school in 296 00:09:48,689 --> 00:09:50,422 school -- frank mcclarin alternative high school in college park, atlanta, georgia. 297 00:09:50,424 --> 00:09:52,891 Alternative high school in college park, atlanta, georgia. So we picked up like a day 298 00:09:52,893 --> 00:09:55,827 college park, atlanta, georgia. So we picked up like a day hadn't gone by, and I introduced 299 00:09:55,829 --> 00:09:59,230 so we picked up like a day hadn't gone by, and I introduced him to my friends d.J. Wayne, 300 00:09:59,232 --> 00:10:01,066 hadn't gone by, and I introduced him to my friends d.J. Wayne, god bless the dead, 301 00:10:01,068 --> 00:10:03,335 him to my friends d.J. Wayne, god bless the dead, emcee alley al, etcetera. 302 00:10:03,337 --> 00:10:04,536 God bless the dead, emcee alley al, etcetera. And I was in a crew called 303 00:10:04,538 --> 00:10:08,006 emcee alley al, etcetera. And I was in a crew called the ga style. 304 00:10:08,008 --> 00:10:10,575 And I was in a crew called the ga style. Al ends up being the father of 305 00:10:10,577 --> 00:10:11,977 the ga style. Al ends up being the father of my two nieces. 306 00:10:11,979 --> 00:10:13,912 Al ends up being the father of my two nieces. So he's literally a brother to 307 00:10:13,914 --> 00:10:17,148 my two nieces. So he's literally a brother to me. 308 00:10:17,150 --> 00:10:19,884 So he's literally a brother to me. I introduced andre 3000 309 00:10:19,886 --> 00:10:22,954 me. I introduced andre 3000 and big boi, antoine patton, to 310 00:10:22,956 --> 00:10:25,457 I introduced andre 3000 and big boi, antoine patton, to them, you know, and they 311 00:10:25,459 --> 00:10:26,758 and big boi, antoine patton, to them, you know, and they produced their first demo. 312 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,193 Them, you know, and they produced their first demo. Anyway, it didn't work, and I 313 00:10:28,195 --> 00:10:29,561 produced their first demo. Anyway, it didn't work, and I remember him coming back to 314 00:10:29,563 --> 00:10:31,129 anyway, it didn't work, and I remember him coming back to school one day saying like, "yo, 315 00:10:31,131 --> 00:10:32,831 remember him coming back to school one day saying like, "yo, we met these other dudes, blah, 316 00:10:32,833 --> 00:10:34,499 school one day saying like, "yo, we met these other dudes, blah, blah, blah, organized noise." 317 00:10:34,501 --> 00:10:36,668 we met these other dudes, blah, blah, blah, organized noise." you know, they got -- they got 318 00:10:36,670 --> 00:10:38,903 blah, blah, organized noise." you know, they got -- they got some [bleep], you know what I'm 319 00:10:38,905 --> 00:10:39,638 you know, they got -- they got some [bleep], you know what I'm saying? 320 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,173 Some [bleep], you know what I'm saying? So anyway, fast forward. 321 00:10:42,175 --> 00:10:44,976 Saying? So anyway, fast forward. The dungeon is where he was 322 00:10:44,978 --> 00:10:47,312 so anyway, fast forward. The dungeon is where he was talking about, and we take 323 00:10:47,314 --> 00:10:49,781 the dungeon is where he was talking about, and we take marqueze ethridge over there. 324 00:10:49,783 --> 00:10:51,583 Talking about, and we take marqueze ethridge over there. Sleepy brown is sitting in there 325 00:10:51,585 --> 00:10:52,917 marqueze ethridge over there. Sleepy brown is sitting in there by himself at the time. 326 00:10:52,919 --> 00:10:54,519 Sleepy brown is sitting in there by himself at the time. I end up singing for him and 327 00:10:54,521 --> 00:10:55,553 by himself at the time. I end up singing for him and rapping for him. 328 00:10:55,555 --> 00:10:57,455 I end up singing for him and rapping for him. He said, "I like your singing 329 00:10:57,457 --> 00:10:59,157 rapping for him. He said, "I like your singing better than your rapping." 330 00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:00,825 he said, "I like your singing better than your rapping." you know. I'm like, "ok." 331 00:11:00,827 --> 00:11:03,628 better than your rapping." you know. I'm like, "ok." then here comes rico wade, walks 332 00:11:03,630 --> 00:11:06,331 you know. I'm like, "ok." then here comes rico wade, walks in the door with big and dre. 333 00:11:06,333 --> 00:11:07,832 Then here comes rico wade, walks in the door with big and dre. And dre screams out, "that's 334 00:11:07,834 --> 00:11:09,334 in the door with big and dre. And dre screams out, "that's my homeboy, ceelo, who I was 335 00:11:09,336 --> 00:11:10,435 and dre screams out, "that's my homeboy, ceelo, who I was telling you about." 336 00:11:10,437 --> 00:11:11,736 my homeboy, ceelo, who I was telling you about." I go back over there a second 337 00:11:11,738 --> 00:11:15,340 telling you about." I go back over there a second time with killer b and j.D., and 338 00:11:15,342 --> 00:11:17,008 I go back over there a second time with killer b and j.D., and everybody's over there this 339 00:11:17,010 --> 00:11:17,509 time with killer b and j.D., and everybody's over there this time. 340 00:11:17,511 --> 00:11:18,943 Everybody's over there this time. So they felt like they was -- 341 00:11:18,945 --> 00:11:20,245 time. So they felt like they was -- you know, they was kind of 342 00:11:20,247 --> 00:11:21,579 so they felt like they was -- you know, they was kind of trying to show me around as 343 00:11:21,581 --> 00:11:23,081 you know, they was kind of trying to show me around as management, you know, almost to 344 00:11:23,083 --> 00:11:24,649 trying to show me around as management, you know, almost to say, like, "yeah, we turning you 345 00:11:24,651 --> 00:11:26,084 management, you know, almost to say, like, "yeah, we turning you on, taking you to new places, 346 00:11:26,086 --> 00:11:26,751 say, like, "yeah, we turning you on, taking you to new places, new faces." 347 00:11:26,753 --> 00:11:28,820 on, taking you to new places, new faces." so we went over there and gipp 348 00:11:28,822 --> 00:11:30,855 new faces." so we went over there and gipp and t-mo and khujo and dre and 349 00:11:30,857 --> 00:11:32,624 so we went over there and gipp and t-mo and khujo and dre and everybody was over there. 350 00:11:32,626 --> 00:11:34,125 And t-mo and khujo and dre and everybody was over there. I'm like, "oh, ok, I've been 351 00:11:34,127 --> 00:11:35,160 everybody was over there. I'm like, "oh, ok, I've been over here before." 352 00:11:35,162 --> 00:11:36,828 I'm like, "oh, ok, I've been over here before." so to make a long story short, I 353 00:11:36,830 --> 00:11:38,296 over here before." so to make a long story short, I started to live over there. 354 00:11:38,298 --> 00:11:39,864 So to make a long story short, I started to live over there. I was living with my auntie at 355 00:11:39,866 --> 00:11:40,498 started to live over there. I was living with my auntie at the time. 356 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:41,766 I was living with my auntie at the time. High school dropout, wasn't 357 00:11:41,768 --> 00:11:43,168 the time. High school dropout, wasn't doing much, didn't have nothing 358 00:11:43,170 --> 00:11:43,735 high school dropout, wasn't doing much, didn't have nothing going on. 359 00:11:43,737 --> 00:11:45,103 Doing much, didn't have nothing going on. A statistic waiting to happen, 360 00:11:45,105 --> 00:11:46,604 going on. A statistic waiting to happen, and I got to just say in short 361 00:11:46,606 --> 00:11:51,876 a statistic waiting to happen, and I got to just say in short that rico wade, the generosity, 362 00:11:51,878 --> 00:11:53,411 and I got to just say in short that rico wade, the generosity, the selflessness, you know what 363 00:11:53,413 --> 00:11:53,712 that rico wade, the generosity, the selflessness, you know what I 364 00:11:53,714 --> 00:11:55,246 the selflessness, you know what I mean, and the foresight of this 365 00:11:55,248 --> 00:11:57,449 I mean, and the foresight of this man literally saved not only my 366 00:11:57,451 --> 00:11:59,317 mean, and the foresight of this man literally saved not only my life, but the life of many 367 00:11:59,319 --> 00:12:01,553 man literally saved not only my life, but the life of many others, because he allowed us to 368 00:12:01,555 --> 00:12:03,755 life, but the life of many others, because he allowed us to sleep there on his floor till we 369 00:12:03,757 --> 00:12:05,023 others, because he allowed us to sleep there on his floor till we got on our feet. 370 00:12:05,025 --> 00:12:06,458 Sleep there on his floor till we got on our feet. And that is the story of 371 00:12:06,460 --> 00:12:08,293 got on our feet. And that is the story of the dungeon, you know, in a big, 372 00:12:08,295 --> 00:12:08,727 and that is the story of the dungeon, you know, in a big, old, fat nutshell. 373 00:12:11,864 --> 00:12:15,100 >> green: My understanding of being an artist at that time was really vague. 374 00:12:15,102 --> 00:12:17,602 Being an artist at that time was really vague. I just felt very fortunate. 375 00:12:17,604 --> 00:12:19,838 Really vague. I just felt very fortunate. I finally had that camaraderie, 376 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,040 I just felt very fortunate. I finally had that camaraderie, that brotherhood, that village 377 00:12:22,042 --> 00:12:23,608 I finally had that camaraderie, that brotherhood, that village to be a part of that was very 378 00:12:23,610 --> 00:12:25,110 that brotherhood, that village to be a part of that was very supportive and encouraging. 379 00:12:25,112 --> 00:12:26,578 To be a part of that was very supportive and encouraging. Although it was a large, 380 00:12:26,580 --> 00:12:28,313 supportive and encouraging. Although it was a large, collective effort, we were all 381 00:12:28,315 --> 00:12:29,981 although it was a large, collective effort, we were all still individuals, so I felt 382 00:12:29,983 --> 00:12:31,816 collective effort, we were all still individuals, so I felt surrounded by talent and 383 00:12:31,818 --> 00:12:33,918 still individuals, so I felt surrounded by talent and perspective, and just people, 384 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,254 surrounded by talent and perspective, and just people, physically, but I also felt like 385 00:12:36,256 --> 00:12:38,356 perspective, and just people, physically, but I also felt like I was the only one there, and I 386 00:12:38,358 --> 00:12:40,492 physically, but I also felt like I was the only one there, and I had my own particular skill set 387 00:12:40,494 --> 00:12:42,127 I was the only one there, and I had my own particular skill set and lane and I could come in and 388 00:12:42,129 --> 00:12:45,830 had my own particular skill set and lane and I could come in and contribute. 389 00:12:45,832 --> 00:12:47,932 And lane and I could come in and contribute. I just -- I miss those times. 390 00:12:47,934 --> 00:12:48,967 Contribute. I just -- I miss those times. The beginning is always 391 00:12:48,969 --> 00:12:49,267 I just -- I miss those times. The beginning is always the best. 392 00:12:52,271 --> 00:12:59,811 ♪ >> green: How goodie mob got together -- we were all 393 00:12:59,813 --> 00:13:01,279 >> green: How goodie mob got together -- we were all three separate entities. 394 00:13:01,281 --> 00:13:03,114 Together -- we were all three separate entities. I came to the dungeon 395 00:13:03,116 --> 00:13:04,649 three separate entities. I came to the dungeon as a solo artist. 396 00:13:04,651 --> 00:13:06,584 I came to the dungeon as a solo artist. Big gipp had just recently 397 00:13:06,586 --> 00:13:08,686 as a solo artist. Big gipp had just recently parted ways with his original 398 00:13:08,688 --> 00:13:10,054 big gipp had just recently parted ways with his original group, the east point 399 00:13:10,056 --> 00:13:10,889 parted ways with his original group, the east point chain gang. 400 00:13:10,891 --> 00:13:12,423 Group, the east point chain gang. The success of the outkast 401 00:13:12,425 --> 00:13:14,225 chain gang. The success of the outkast debut album, "southernplayalist- 402 00:13:14,227 --> 00:13:15,260 the success of the outkast debut album, "southernplayalist- icadillacmuzik," 403 00:13:15,262 --> 00:13:17,195 debut album, "southernplayalist- icadillacmuzik," was like a phenomenon because it 404 00:13:17,197 --> 00:13:18,830 icadillacmuzik," was like a phenomenon because it was the first of its kind. 405 00:13:18,832 --> 00:13:19,998 Was like a phenomenon because it was the first of its kind. It really gave identity to 406 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,801 was the first of its kind. It really gave identity to the south and to atlanta, and we 407 00:13:22,803 --> 00:13:24,702 it really gave identity to the south and to atlanta, and we were next up. 408 00:13:24,704 --> 00:13:26,604 The south and to atlanta, and we were next up. But there was a bit of a dilemma 409 00:13:26,606 --> 00:13:30,642 were next up. But there was a bit of a dilemma on who exactly would be next. 410 00:13:30,644 --> 00:13:32,410 But there was a bit of a dilemma on who exactly would be next. It was the -- again, 411 00:13:32,412 --> 00:13:33,945 on who exactly would be next. It was the -- again, the foresight and 412 00:13:33,947 --> 00:13:35,847 it was the -- again, the foresight and the practicality of -- 413 00:13:35,849 --> 00:13:37,115 the foresight and the practicality of -- and the common sense of 414 00:13:37,117 --> 00:13:38,116 the practicality of -- and the common sense of rico wade, again. 415 00:13:38,118 --> 00:13:39,551 And the common sense of rico wade, again. I just got to give so much 416 00:13:39,553 --> 00:13:41,219 rico wade, again. I just got to give so much credit to him because it was his 417 00:13:41,221 --> 00:13:43,221 I just got to give so much credit to him because it was his idea to put us all in a group 418 00:13:43,223 --> 00:13:45,356 credit to him because it was his idea to put us all in a group together, really similar to the 419 00:13:45,358 --> 00:13:48,993 idea to put us all in a group together, really similar to the wu-tang, you know, approach, in 420 00:13:48,995 --> 00:13:51,696 together, really similar to the wu-tang, you know, approach, in the effort to get us all out at 421 00:13:51,698 --> 00:13:53,131 wu-tang, you know, approach, in the effort to get us all out at the same time. 422 00:13:53,133 --> 00:13:54,499 The effort to get us all out at the same time. I guess pretty much the rest was 423 00:13:54,501 --> 00:13:54,766 the same time. I guess pretty much the rest was history. 424 00:13:59,338 --> 00:14:03,608 >> green: Legend has it that I was supposed to be the third member of outkast, and yes, 425 00:14:03,610 --> 00:14:05,510 I was supposed to be the third member of outkast, and yes, there's some truth to that. 426 00:14:05,512 --> 00:14:07,011 Member of outkast, and yes, there's some truth to that. We talked about it really 427 00:14:07,013 --> 00:14:08,746 there's some truth to that. We talked about it really casually, maybe once or twice. 428 00:14:08,748 --> 00:14:13,718 We talked about it really casually, maybe once or twice. The notion came from me, dre, 429 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,855 casually, maybe once or twice. The notion came from me, dre, and big are all the same age. 430 00:14:16,857 --> 00:14:19,090 The notion came from me, dre, and big are all the same age. So there's that connection 431 00:14:19,092 --> 00:14:21,125 and big are all the same age. So there's that connection there, and also, on one 432 00:14:21,127 --> 00:14:25,563 so there's that connection there, and also, on one occasion, I had to stand in 433 00:14:25,565 --> 00:14:26,297 there, and also, on one occasion, I had to stand in for big boi. 434 00:14:26,299 --> 00:14:27,932 Occasion, I had to stand in for big boi. We was doing like a cable access 435 00:14:27,934 --> 00:14:31,536 for big boi. We was doing like a cable access show that came to frank mcclarin 436 00:14:31,538 --> 00:14:32,837 we was doing like a cable access show that came to frank mcclarin alternative school. 437 00:14:32,839 --> 00:14:33,838 Show that came to frank mcclarin alternative school. We went for it. 438 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,540 Alternative school. We went for it. So I just don't think big was 439 00:14:35,542 --> 00:14:37,408 we went for it. So I just don't think big was available to do it that day, and 440 00:14:37,410 --> 00:14:40,078 so I just don't think big was available to do it that day, and at that time, you know, big's 441 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,747 available to do it that day, and at that time, you know, big's family was really stern about 442 00:14:42,749 --> 00:14:45,049 at that time, you know, big's family was really stern about him, you know, excelling 443 00:14:45,051 --> 00:14:46,484 family was really stern about him, you know, excelling academically. 444 00:14:46,486 --> 00:14:47,919 Him, you know, excelling academically. You know, me and dre were kind 445 00:14:47,921 --> 00:14:49,454 academically. You know, me and dre were kind of like the misfits, and we both 446 00:14:49,456 --> 00:14:51,155 you know, me and dre were kind of like the misfits, and we both had dropped out of school, 447 00:14:51,157 --> 00:14:53,024 of like the misfits, and we both had dropped out of school, you know, in trying to pursue 448 00:14:53,026 --> 00:14:55,393 had dropped out of school, you know, in trying to pursue art full time. 449 00:14:55,395 --> 00:14:57,262 You know, in trying to pursue art full time. But big, people was like, 450 00:14:57,264 --> 00:14:58,630 art full time. But big, people was like, "uh-uh, partner." 451 00:14:58,632 --> 00:14:59,931 but big, people was like, "uh-uh, partner." so that's kind of what happened, 452 00:14:59,933 --> 00:15:00,932 "uh-uh, partner." so that's kind of what happened, was almost kind of like 453 00:15:00,934 --> 00:15:01,466 so that's kind of what happened, was almost kind of like a default. 454 00:15:01,468 --> 00:15:03,468 Was almost kind of like a default. And then, you know, we discussed 455 00:15:03,470 --> 00:15:05,370 a default. And then, you know, we discussed maybe the option of us kind of 456 00:15:05,372 --> 00:15:07,105 and then, you know, we discussed maybe the option of us kind of being a group together when 457 00:15:07,107 --> 00:15:08,840 maybe the option of us kind of being a group together when everything was still taking 458 00:15:08,842 --> 00:15:10,742 being a group together when everything was still taking shape, but that didn't happen. 459 00:15:10,744 --> 00:15:12,477 Everything was still taking shape, but that didn't happen. It was casual because we're all 460 00:15:12,479 --> 00:15:14,245 shape, but that didn't happen. It was casual because we're all cool with each other, but in my 461 00:15:14,247 --> 00:15:15,980 it was casual because we're all cool with each other, but in my personal opinion, I don't think 462 00:15:15,982 --> 00:15:17,248 cool with each other, but in my personal opinion, I don't think it would have worked. 463 00:15:17,250 --> 00:15:18,249 Personal opinion, I don't think it would have worked. It probably -- it would have 464 00:15:18,251 --> 00:15:18,816 it would have worked. It probably -- it would have been too much. 465 00:15:18,818 --> 00:15:19,951 It probably -- it would have been too much. Goodie mob needed me just like I 466 00:15:19,953 --> 00:15:21,052 been too much. Goodie mob needed me just like I needed goodie mob, you know what 467 00:15:21,054 --> 00:15:21,419 goodie mob needed me just like I needed goodie mob, you know what I mean? 468 00:15:21,421 --> 00:15:23,154 Needed goodie mob, you know what I mean? Outkast is outkast, you know, it 469 00:15:23,156 --> 00:15:24,222 I mean? Outkast is outkast, you know, it is what it is now. 470 00:15:24,224 --> 00:15:25,423 Outkast is outkast, you know, it is what it is now. But yup, that's true. 471 00:15:25,425 --> 00:15:27,926 Is what it is now. But yup, that's true. Goodie mob's first break was 472 00:15:27,928 --> 00:15:30,228 but yup, that's true. Goodie mob's first break was the features on outkast's 473 00:15:30,230 --> 00:15:31,796 goodie mob's first break was the features on outkast's southernplayalisticadillacmuzik, 474 00:15:31,798 --> 00:15:34,532 the features on outkast's southernplayalisticadillacmuzik, their debut album in 1994. 475 00:15:34,534 --> 00:15:36,034 Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik, their debut album in 1994. Myself and big gipp were 476 00:15:36,036 --> 00:15:37,568 their debut album in 1994. Myself and big gipp were featured on a song called 477 00:15:37,570 --> 00:15:39,470 myself and big gipp were featured on a song called "get up, get out," and khujo and 478 00:15:39,472 --> 00:15:41,406 featured on a song called "get up, get out," and khujo and t-mo of goodie mob were featured 479 00:15:41,408 --> 00:15:42,573 "get up, get out," and khujo and t-mo of goodie mob were featured on the song called 480 00:15:42,575 --> 00:15:43,808 t-mo of goodie mob were featured on the song called "call of the wild." 481 00:15:43,810 --> 00:15:45,677 on the song called "call of the wild." and the success of outkast that 482 00:15:45,679 --> 00:15:50,114 "call of the wild." and the success of outkast that year was just -- it was amazing. 483 00:15:50,116 --> 00:15:52,550 And the success of outkast that year was just -- it was amazing. In atlanta, you had shy d, 484 00:15:52,552 --> 00:15:55,453 year was just -- it was amazing. In atlanta, you had shy d, kilo, hard boys, damage, you 485 00:15:55,455 --> 00:15:56,854 in atlanta, you had shy d, kilo, hard boys, damage, you know what I mean? 486 00:15:56,856 --> 00:15:59,123 Kilo, hard boys, damage, you know what I mean? Raheem the dream, ghetto mafia, 487 00:15:59,125 --> 00:16:02,026 know what I mean? Raheem the dream, ghetto mafia, you got arrested development, 488 00:16:02,028 --> 00:16:03,561 raheem the dream, ghetto mafia, you got arrested development, kriss kross. 489 00:16:03,563 --> 00:16:05,797 You got arrested development, kriss kross. But for some reason, outkast 490 00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:08,166 kriss kross. But for some reason, outkast seemed to galvanize, you know, 491 00:16:08,168 --> 00:16:11,202 but for some reason, outkast seemed to galvanize, you know, what everyone embraced as their 492 00:16:11,204 --> 00:16:12,403 seemed to galvanize, you know, what everyone embraced as their identity. 493 00:16:12,405 --> 00:16:14,005 What everyone embraced as their identity. Like, that's what we look like, 494 00:16:14,007 --> 00:16:15,173 identity. Like, that's what we look like, you know what I mean? 495 00:16:15,175 --> 00:16:16,507 Like, that's what we look like, you know what I mean? Like, outkast, that's us. 496 00:16:16,509 --> 00:16:18,476 You know what I mean? Like, outkast, that's us. Goodie mob was just the -- 497 00:16:18,478 --> 00:16:20,578 like, outkast, that's us. Goodie mob was just the -- the groundwork and the heavy 498 00:16:20,580 --> 00:16:21,412 goodie mob was just the -- the groundwork and the heavy lifting. 499 00:16:21,414 --> 00:16:23,414 The groundwork and the heavy lifting. So it was our politics and it 500 00:16:23,416 --> 00:16:25,416 lifting. So it was our politics and it was our opinions about church 501 00:16:25,418 --> 00:16:26,284 so it was our politics and it was our opinions about church and state. 502 00:16:26,286 --> 00:16:28,119 Was our opinions about church and state. We are born and raised and 503 00:16:28,121 --> 00:16:30,288 and state. We are born and raised and reared by a city of civil rights 504 00:16:30,290 --> 00:16:32,090 we are born and raised and reared by a city of civil rights activists, and so much has 505 00:16:32,092 --> 00:16:33,858 reared by a city of civil rights activists, and so much has transpired right there -- 506 00:16:33,860 --> 00:16:35,526 activists, and so much has transpired right there -- hosea williams, you know, 507 00:16:35,528 --> 00:16:36,995 transpired right there -- hosea williams, you know, ralph david abernathy, 508 00:16:36,997 --> 00:16:38,329 hosea williams, you know, ralph david abernathy, martin luther king, 509 00:16:38,331 --> 00:16:39,864 ralph david abernathy, martin luther king, andrew young, you know, 510 00:16:39,866 --> 00:16:41,699 martin luther king, andrew young, you know, julian bond, andrew jackson. 511 00:16:41,701 --> 00:16:43,267 Andrew young, you know, julian bond, andrew jackson. >> never shall I let you down. 512 00:16:43,269 --> 00:16:45,970 Julian bond, andrew jackson. >> never shall I let you down. >> so many people. 513 00:16:45,972 --> 00:16:49,173 >> never shall I let you down. >> so many people. You know, we were carrying on 514 00:16:49,175 --> 00:16:50,842 >> so many people. You know, we were carrying on a legacy, a tradition of 515 00:16:50,844 --> 00:16:52,577 you know, we were carrying on a legacy, a tradition of telling black excellence. 516 00:16:52,579 --> 00:16:54,178 A legacy, a tradition of telling black excellence. And so that was imperative and 517 00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:55,513 telling black excellence. And so that was imperative and very important to us, to 518 00:16:55,515 --> 00:16:57,181 and so that was imperative and very important to us, to represent the city in the right 519 00:16:57,183 --> 00:16:57,682 very important to us, to represent the city in the right light. 520 00:16:57,684 --> 00:16:59,050 Represent the city in the right light. Well, I felt like we had 521 00:16:59,052 --> 00:17:00,485 light. Well, I felt like we had a successful run -- three 522 00:17:00,487 --> 00:17:01,953 well, I felt like we had a successful run -- three consecutive gold albums as 523 00:17:01,955 --> 00:17:03,621 a successful run -- three consecutive gold albums as goodie mob, and it wasn't even 524 00:17:03,623 --> 00:17:05,223 consecutive gold albums as goodie mob, and it wasn't even the plan or intent, you know? 525 00:17:05,225 --> 00:17:06,858 Goodie mob, and it wasn't even the plan or intent, you know? We just had been fortunate 526 00:17:06,860 --> 00:17:08,760 the plan or intent, you know? We just had been fortunate enough to have the first album. 527 00:17:08,762 --> 00:17:10,728 We just had been fortunate enough to have the first album. To this day, people still love 528 00:17:10,730 --> 00:17:12,196 enough to have the first album. To this day, people still love goodie mob, you know? 529 00:17:12,198 --> 00:17:13,731 To this day, people still love goodie mob, you know? But I did get to a point of 530 00:17:13,733 --> 00:17:15,533 goodie mob, you know? But I did get to a point of where I wanted to express myself 531 00:17:15,535 --> 00:17:17,168 but I did get to a point of where I wanted to express myself a little bit more, and here's 532 00:17:17,170 --> 00:17:18,870 where I wanted to express myself a little bit more, and here's this solo album, "ceelo green 533 00:17:18,872 --> 00:17:20,671 a little bit more, and here's this solo album, "ceelo green and his perfect imperfections." 534 00:17:20,673 --> 00:17:23,674 this solo album, "ceelo green and his perfect imperfections." and, you know, first single is 535 00:17:23,676 --> 00:17:25,410 and his perfect imperfections." and, you know, first single is called "closet freak." 536 00:17:25,412 --> 00:17:29,547 and, you know, first single is called "closet freak." so for me to come out and 537 00:17:29,549 --> 00:17:32,116 called "closet freak." so for me to come out and express yet another or pull back 538 00:17:32,118 --> 00:17:34,519 so for me to come out and express yet another or pull back another layer of myself and be 539 00:17:34,521 --> 00:17:36,187 express yet another or pull back another layer of myself and be like, "yo, I like costume and 540 00:17:36,189 --> 00:17:37,255 another layer of myself and be like, "yo, I like costume and I like pageantry. 541 00:17:37,257 --> 00:17:38,990 Like, "yo, I like costume and I like pageantry. I like, you know, staging, 542 00:17:38,992 --> 00:17:41,092 I like pageantry. I like, you know, staging, production, you know, and, like, 543 00:17:41,094 --> 00:17:41,759 I like, you know, staging, production, you know, and, like, color." 544 00:17:41,761 --> 00:17:43,327 production, you know, and, like, color." I just felt like that was just 545 00:17:43,329 --> 00:17:44,896 color." I just felt like that was just more bravery, so I felt like it 546 00:17:44,898 --> 00:17:46,464 I just felt like that was just more bravery, so I felt like it was all in context, basically, 547 00:17:46,466 --> 00:17:47,799 more bravery, so I felt like it was all in context, basically, you know what I'm saying? 548 00:17:47,801 --> 00:17:49,233 Was all in context, basically, you know what I'm saying? So I didn't think that it was 549 00:17:49,235 --> 00:17:49,667 you know what I'm saying? So I didn't think that it was wild. 550 00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:51,002 So I didn't think that it was wild. You know, in retrospect, I 551 00:17:51,004 --> 00:17:52,370 wild. You know, in retrospect, I realize it was like, "wow." 552 00:17:52,372 --> 00:17:53,871 you know, in retrospect, I realize it was like, "wow." but again, I had seen somebody 553 00:17:53,873 --> 00:17:55,239 realize it was like, "wow." but again, I had seen somebody do it, you know, and if you 554 00:17:55,241 --> 00:17:56,774 but again, I had seen somebody do it, you know, and if you really listen to george clinton 555 00:17:56,776 --> 00:17:58,276 do it, you know, and if you really listen to george clinton and the parliament-funkadelic, 556 00:17:58,278 --> 00:17:59,844 really listen to george clinton and the parliament-funkadelic, you know that they were dropping 557 00:17:59,846 --> 00:18:01,345 and the parliament-funkadelic, you know that they were dropping jewels in that music, as well. 558 00:18:01,347 --> 00:18:02,413 You know that they were dropping jewels in that music, as well. So I felt like it was, 559 00:18:02,415 --> 00:18:03,781 jewels in that music, as well. So I felt like it was, you know -- it was palatable, 560 00:18:03,783 --> 00:18:04,816 so I felt like it was, you know -- it was palatable, you know what I mean? 561 00:18:04,818 --> 00:18:05,983 You know -- it was palatable, you know what I mean? And I feel like it was a 562 00:18:05,985 --> 00:18:07,452 you know what I mean? And I feel like it was a secondary, you know what I mean? 563 00:18:07,454 --> 00:18:08,986 And I feel like it was a secondary, you know what I mean? But we were doing something that 564 00:18:08,988 --> 00:18:10,521 secondary, you know what I mean? But we were doing something that had been done, but for the first 565 00:18:10,523 --> 00:18:11,889 but we were doing something that had been done, but for the first time for our generation, you 566 00:18:11,891 --> 00:18:13,324 had been done, but for the first time for our generation, you know, and of course, you know, 567 00:18:13,326 --> 00:18:14,492 time for our generation, you know, and of course, you know, george clinton, he also 568 00:18:14,494 --> 00:18:15,993 know, and of course, you know, george clinton, he also christened the dungeon family as 569 00:18:15,995 --> 00:18:17,528 george clinton, he also christened the dungeon family as the young parliament-funkadelic. 570 00:18:17,530 --> 00:18:19,063 Christened the dungeon family as the young parliament-funkadelic. So I felt like we were dutified, 571 00:18:19,065 --> 00:18:20,465 the young parliament-funkadelic. So I felt like we were dutified, and we did it on as a badge of 572 00:18:20,467 --> 00:18:20,932 so I felt like we were dutified, and we did it on as a badge of honor. 573 00:18:20,934 --> 00:18:22,366 And we did it on as a badge of honor. We were dealing with live music 574 00:18:22,368 --> 00:18:24,335 honor. We were dealing with live music and live instrumentation, so the 575 00:18:24,337 --> 00:18:25,837 we were dealing with live music and live instrumentation, so the music was alive, it was 576 00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:27,738 and live instrumentation, so the music was alive, it was vitality, you know what I mean? 577 00:18:27,740 --> 00:18:30,007 Music was alive, it was vitality, you know what I mean? And, you know, it was really 578 00:18:30,009 --> 00:18:32,844 vitality, you know what I mean? And, you know, it was really about signifying, you know, us 579 00:18:32,846 --> 00:18:33,244 and, you know, it was really about signifying, you know, us ourselves, yeah. 580 00:18:35,347 --> 00:18:42,787 ♪ >> green: Gnarls barkley was yet another layer I pulled back 581 00:18:42,789 --> 00:18:45,656 >> green: Gnarls barkley was yet another layer I pulled back at the right time. 582 00:18:45,658 --> 00:18:49,127 Another layer I pulled back at the right time. You know, when I -- and for 583 00:18:49,129 --> 00:18:50,995 at the right time. You know, when I -- and for the record, I never left 584 00:18:50,997 --> 00:18:53,064 you know, when I -- and for the record, I never left goodie mob, I only extended 585 00:18:53,066 --> 00:18:53,831 the record, I never left goodie mob, I only extended myself. 586 00:18:53,833 --> 00:18:56,200 Goodie mob, I only extended myself. I met danger mouse when we were 587 00:18:56,202 --> 00:18:58,603 myself. I met danger mouse when we were all performing as dungeon family 588 00:18:58,605 --> 00:19:00,872 I met danger mouse when we were all performing as dungeon family at uga, in athens, georgia, at 589 00:19:00,874 --> 00:19:02,840 all performing as dungeon family at uga, in athens, georgia, at the university of georgia. 590 00:19:02,842 --> 00:19:05,243 At uga, in athens, georgia, at the university of georgia. It was pouring down raining, and 591 00:19:05,245 --> 00:19:07,311 the university of georgia. It was pouring down raining, and this dude walks up on me in 592 00:19:07,313 --> 00:19:09,614 it was pouring down raining, and this dude walks up on me in the rain and gives me his demo, 593 00:19:09,616 --> 00:19:10,448 this dude walks up on me in the rain and gives me his demo, or a cd. 594 00:19:10,450 --> 00:19:12,583 The rain and gives me his demo, or a cd. He said, "yo, do you mind if 595 00:19:12,585 --> 00:19:14,719 or a cd. He said, "yo, do you mind if I play you a couple tracks?" 596 00:19:14,721 --> 00:19:16,521 he said, "yo, do you mind if I play you a couple tracks?" and I was like, "sure." 597 00:19:16,523 --> 00:19:18,756 I play you a couple tracks?" and I was like, "sure." so he started playing all this 598 00:19:18,758 --> 00:19:19,490 and I was like, "sure." so he started playing all this stuff. 599 00:19:19,492 --> 00:19:21,859 So he started playing all this stuff. I felt it instantaneously, and I 600 00:19:21,861 --> 00:19:23,227 stuff. I felt it instantaneously, and I was like, "ooh." 601 00:19:23,229 --> 00:19:25,229 I felt it instantaneously, and I was like, "ooh." I said, "yo, we should get 602 00:19:25,231 --> 00:19:26,430 was like, "ooh." I said, "yo, we should get together, man. 603 00:19:26,432 --> 00:19:28,699 I said, "yo, we should get together, man. I want to use a couple of your 604 00:19:28,701 --> 00:19:29,534 together, man. I want to use a couple of your tracks." 605 00:19:29,536 --> 00:19:31,836 I want to use a couple of your tracks." and he said, "well, um, I don't 606 00:19:31,838 --> 00:19:33,971 tracks." and he said, "well, um, I don't make tracks, I make albums." 607 00:19:33,973 --> 00:19:36,307 and he said, "well, um, I don't make tracks, I make albums." [ laughs ] and I was like, "ok, 608 00:19:36,309 --> 00:19:38,376 make tracks, I make albums." [ laughs ] and I was like, "ok, homie, let's make an album, 609 00:19:38,378 --> 00:19:39,076 [ laughs ] and I was like, "ok, homie, let's make an album, then." 610 00:19:39,078 --> 00:19:41,445 homie, let's make an album, then." but later on in an interview, he 611 00:19:41,447 --> 00:19:43,848 then." but later on in an interview, he told me that he was bluffing me, 612 00:19:43,850 --> 00:19:46,017 but later on in an interview, he told me that he was bluffing me, just to see what I would say. 613 00:19:46,019 --> 00:19:48,286 Told me that he was bluffing me, just to see what I would say. So anyway, we ended up getting 614 00:19:48,288 --> 00:19:50,288 just to see what I would say. So anyway, we ended up getting together, and we had about 615 00:19:50,290 --> 00:19:51,756 so anyway, we ended up getting together, and we had about 8 days in atlanta. 616 00:19:51,758 --> 00:19:53,891 Together, and we had about 8 days in atlanta. He was like, "let's just try 617 00:19:53,893 --> 00:19:54,992 8 days in atlanta. He was like, "let's just try some stuff." 618 00:19:54,994 --> 00:19:57,195 he was like, "let's just try some stuff." so he played about 10 things, 619 00:19:57,197 --> 00:19:59,564 some stuff." so he played about 10 things, so about 5 or 6 of the things he 620 00:19:59,566 --> 00:20:01,766 so he played about 10 things, so about 5 or 6 of the things he played for me in that initial 621 00:20:01,768 --> 00:20:03,501 so about 5 or 6 of the things he played for me in that initial session ended up being 622 00:20:03,503 --> 00:20:05,670 played for me in that initial session ended up being gnarls barkley's debut album, 623 00:20:05,672 --> 00:20:07,038 session ended up being gnarls barkley's debut album, "st. Elsewhere." 624 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,073 gnarls barkley's debut album, "st. Elsewhere." and we did a couple other new 625 00:20:09,075 --> 00:20:11,209 "st. Elsewhere." and we did a couple other new things, and what people hear is 626 00:20:11,211 --> 00:20:12,176 and we did a couple other new things, and what people hear is what it is. 627 00:20:12,178 --> 00:20:14,078 Things, and what people hear is what it is. We only did stuff one time. 628 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,315 What it is. We only did stuff one time. I sang "crazy" one time. 629 00:20:17,317 --> 00:20:19,617 We only did stuff one time. I sang "crazy" one time. A great story about crazy -- 630 00:20:19,619 --> 00:20:22,053 I sang "crazy" one time. A great story about crazy -- he played the beat and it just 631 00:20:22,055 --> 00:20:23,020 a great story about crazy -- he played the beat and it just comes on. 632 00:20:23,022 --> 00:20:26,857 He played the beat and it just comes on. [humming] 633 00:20:26,859 --> 00:20:28,993 comes on. [humming] and I was like, "oh, what's 634 00:20:28,995 --> 00:20:29,727 [humming] and I was like, "oh, what's that?" 635 00:20:29,729 --> 00:20:31,529 and I was like, "oh, what's that?" then somebody started rapping on 636 00:20:31,531 --> 00:20:32,863 that?" then somebody started rapping on it, then he cut it off. 637 00:20:32,865 --> 00:20:34,198 Then somebody started rapping on it, then he cut it off. He was like, "eh, I don't really 638 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,099 it, then he cut it off. He was like, "eh, I don't really like to play that." 639 00:20:35,101 --> 00:20:36,133 he was like, "eh, I don't really like to play that." and I'm like, "why not?" 640 00:20:36,135 --> 00:20:37,235 like to play that." and I'm like, "why not?" he said, "well, you know, 641 00:20:37,237 --> 00:20:38,569 and I'm like, "why not?" he said, "well, you know, somebody did -- and I did to it. 642 00:20:38,571 --> 00:20:39,637 He said, "well, you know, somebody did -- and I did to it. I'm kind of jaded by it. 643 00:20:39,639 --> 00:20:40,805 Somebody did -- and I did to it. I'm kind of jaded by it. So, like, you know, I don't 644 00:20:40,807 --> 00:20:41,572 I'm kind of jaded by it. So, like, you know, I don't really play it." 645 00:20:41,574 --> 00:20:43,140 so, like, you know, I don't really play it." I was like, "yo, play that." 646 00:20:43,142 --> 00:20:44,909 really play it." I was like, "yo, play that." and it just started to loop, and 647 00:20:44,911 --> 00:20:46,644 I was like, "yo, play that." and it just started to loop, and I said -- you know, we just put 648 00:20:46,646 --> 00:20:47,511 and it just started to loop, and I said -- you know, we just put it on repeat. 649 00:20:47,513 --> 00:20:49,780 I said -- you know, we just put it on repeat. We had a conversation about all 650 00:20:49,782 --> 00:20:51,682 it on repeat. We had a conversation about all of our, you know, heroes, 651 00:20:51,684 --> 00:20:53,751 we had a conversation about all of our, you know, heroes, whether it was jim morrison, 652 00:20:53,753 --> 00:20:55,620 of our, you know, heroes, whether it was jim morrison, jimi hendrix, janis joplin, 653 00:20:55,622 --> 00:20:57,588 whether it was jim morrison, jimi hendrix, janis joplin, whomever -- iggy pop -- and we 654 00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:59,190 jimi hendrix, janis joplin, whomever -- iggy pop -- and we were just talking about 655 00:20:59,192 --> 00:21:01,025 whomever -- iggy pop -- and we were just talking about the people who really lived 656 00:21:01,027 --> 00:21:02,660 were just talking about the people who really lived the rock'n'roll fantasy, 657 00:21:02,662 --> 00:21:04,795 the people who really lived the rock'n'roll fantasy, you know, and drove it down into 658 00:21:04,797 --> 00:21:05,696 the rock'n'roll fantasy, you know, and drove it down into the ground. 659 00:21:05,698 --> 00:21:07,164 You know, and drove it down into the ground. You know, whether it's 660 00:21:07,166 --> 00:21:09,033 the ground. You know, whether it's sid vicious or whoever it is, 661 00:21:09,035 --> 00:21:09,767 you know, whether it's sid vicious or whoever it is, you know. 662 00:21:09,769 --> 00:21:11,402 Sid vicious or whoever it is, you know. And I always wanted to be 663 00:21:11,404 --> 00:21:12,937 you know. And I always wanted to be committed like that, to 664 00:21:12,939 --> 00:21:14,639 and I always wanted to be committed like that, to the death -- not just some 665 00:21:14,641 --> 00:21:16,474 committed like that, to the death -- not just some facade, but the real, real -- 666 00:21:16,476 --> 00:21:17,575 the death -- not just some facade, but the real, real -- the real thing. 667 00:21:17,577 --> 00:21:19,577 Facade, but the real, real -- the real thing. And we were saying to ourselves, 668 00:21:19,579 --> 00:21:21,379 the real thing. And we were saying to ourselves, like, "was it crazy for us to 669 00:21:21,381 --> 00:21:23,281 and we were saying to ourselves, like, "was it crazy for us to persist or insist on trying to 670 00:21:23,283 --> 00:21:25,149 like, "was it crazy for us to persist or insist on trying to be ourselves or be indifferent 671 00:21:25,151 --> 00:21:26,951 persist or insist on trying to be ourselves or be indifferent with the larger agenda," you 672 00:21:26,953 --> 00:21:28,119 be ourselves or be indifferent with the larger agenda," you know what I mean? 673 00:21:28,121 --> 00:21:29,687 With the larger agenda," you know what I mean? Like, you know, or just -- why 674 00:21:29,689 --> 00:21:31,289 know what I mean? Like, you know, or just -- why don't we just do something that 675 00:21:31,291 --> 00:21:32,723 like, you know, or just -- why don't we just do something that just works, you know what I 676 00:21:32,725 --> 00:21:33,157 don't we just do something that just works, you know what I mean? 677 00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:34,825 Just works, you know what I mean? We're trying to be so different. 678 00:21:34,827 --> 00:21:36,494 Mean? We're trying to be so different. We played -- the instruments of 679 00:21:36,496 --> 00:21:37,995 we're trying to be so different. We played -- the instruments of the "crazy" played for about 680 00:21:37,997 --> 00:21:41,666 we played -- the instruments of the "crazy" played for about 3 or 4 hours, realistically. 681 00:21:41,668 --> 00:21:45,536 The "crazy" played for about 3 or 4 hours, realistically. I wrote something, and I went 682 00:21:45,538 --> 00:21:47,571 3 or 4 hours, realistically. I wrote something, and I went in the booth. 683 00:21:47,573 --> 00:21:48,773 I wrote something, and I went in the booth. I said, "I got something." 684 00:21:48,775 --> 00:21:50,041 in the booth. I said, "I got something." remember when I told you the 685 00:21:50,043 --> 00:21:51,142 I said, "I got something." remember when I told you the beat was just coming on? 686 00:21:51,144 --> 00:21:52,543 Remember when I told you the beat was just coming on? [ humming ] 687 00:21:52,545 --> 00:21:54,011 beat was just coming on? [ humming ] I was like, "yo, it's coming -- 688 00:21:54,013 --> 00:21:54,912 [ humming ] I was like, "yo, it's coming -- I can't catch it. 689 00:21:54,914 --> 00:21:56,247 I was like, "yo, it's coming -- I can't catch it. I said, I need a -- count me 690 00:21:56,249 --> 00:21:56,614 I can't catch it. I said, I need a -- count me in." 691 00:21:56,616 --> 00:21:59,250 I said, I need a -- count me in." so that's where the, "boom, 692 00:21:59,252 --> 00:22:01,152 in." so that's where the, "boom, boom, boom, boom." 693 00:22:01,154 --> 00:22:02,086 so that's where the, "boom, boom, boom, boom." that's it. 694 00:22:02,088 --> 00:22:03,721 Boom, boom, boom." that's it. You know what I mean? 695 00:22:03,723 --> 00:22:05,222 That's it. You know what I mean? "and I remember when I lost 696 00:22:05,224 --> 00:22:08,392 you know what I mean? "and I remember when I lost my mind. 697 00:22:08,394 --> 00:22:09,994 "and I remember when I lost my mind. There was something so pleasant 698 00:22:09,996 --> 00:22:10,961 my mind. There was something so pleasant about that place. 699 00:22:10,963 --> 00:22:12,697 There was something so pleasant about that place. Even your emotions have an echo 700 00:22:12,699 --> 00:22:13,798 about that place. Even your emotions have an echo in so much space." 701 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,534 even your emotions have an echo in so much space." you know, that's heavy. 702 00:22:16,536 --> 00:22:18,336 In so much space." you know, that's heavy. I love danger mouse because he 703 00:22:18,338 --> 00:22:19,904 you know, that's heavy. I love danger mouse because he opened up this session by 704 00:22:19,906 --> 00:22:21,706 I love danger mouse because he opened up this session by saying, "ok, so, listen, check 705 00:22:21,708 --> 00:22:22,440 opened up this session by saying, "ok, so, listen, check this out. 706 00:22:22,442 --> 00:22:23,674 Saying, "ok, so, listen, check this out. We want to do this project. 707 00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:25,042 This out. We want to do this project. We got about 8 days to see what 708 00:22:25,044 --> 00:22:26,043 we want to do this project. We got about 8 days to see what we can come up with." 709 00:22:26,045 --> 00:22:27,378 we got about 8 days to see what we can come up with." he said, "I'm a fan of yours, 710 00:22:27,380 --> 00:22:27,978 we can come up with." he said, "I'm a fan of yours, obviously." 711 00:22:27,980 --> 00:22:29,880 he said, "I'm a fan of yours, obviously." he said, "I like most of what 712 00:22:29,882 --> 00:22:30,614 obviously." he said, "I like most of what you do." 713 00:22:30,616 --> 00:22:32,616 he said, "I like most of what you do." he said, "but I noticed there's 714 00:22:32,618 --> 00:22:34,652 you do." he said, "but I noticed there's this theme that runs throughout 715 00:22:34,654 --> 00:22:36,654 he said, "but I noticed there's this theme that runs throughout your body of work thus far, and 716 00:22:36,656 --> 00:22:38,756 this theme that runs throughout your body of work thus far, and it's always you trying to convey 717 00:22:38,758 --> 00:22:40,524 your body of work thus far, and it's always you trying to convey a message or give some good 718 00:22:40,526 --> 00:22:42,626 it's always you trying to convey a message or give some good advice, or whatever you may call 719 00:22:42,628 --> 00:22:44,295 a message or give some good advice, or whatever you may call it or consider it to be." 720 00:22:44,297 --> 00:22:46,230 advice, or whatever you may call it or consider it to be." he said, "but anybody trying to 721 00:22:46,232 --> 00:22:48,132 it or consider it to be." he said, "but anybody trying to do that much good has probably 722 00:22:48,134 --> 00:22:50,067 he said, "but anybody trying to do that much good has probably done an equal amount of bad, if 723 00:22:50,069 --> 00:22:50,868 do that much good has probably done an equal amount of bad, if not more." 724 00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:52,336 done an equal amount of bad, if not more." he said, "and that's what I want 725 00:22:52,338 --> 00:22:52,903 not more." he said, "and that's what I want to hear." 726 00:22:52,905 --> 00:22:56,540 he said, "and that's what I want to hear." and I said, "oh." [ laughs ] 727 00:22:56,542 --> 00:22:58,476 to hear." and I said, "oh." [ laughs ] you know, so, basically, 728 00:22:58,478 --> 00:23:00,978 and I said, "oh." [ laughs ] you know, so, basically, the music he made was miserable, 729 00:23:00,980 --> 00:23:03,381 you know, so, basically, the music he made was miserable, and I was just -- it was misery 730 00:23:03,383 --> 00:23:05,416 the music he made was miserable, and I was just -- it was misery in company, you know what 731 00:23:05,418 --> 00:23:06,217 and I was just -- it was misery in company, you know what I mean? 732 00:23:06,219 --> 00:23:07,618 In company, you know what I mean? I was going through quite a dark 733 00:23:07,620 --> 00:23:08,953 I mean? I was going through quite a dark time in my personal life, too. 734 00:23:08,955 --> 00:23:10,287 I was going through quite a dark time in my personal life, too. I was going through a divorce, 735 00:23:10,289 --> 00:23:10,821 time in my personal life, too. I was going through a divorce, no label. 736 00:23:10,823 --> 00:23:12,523 I was going through a divorce, no label. You know, I was going through 737 00:23:12,525 --> 00:23:12,923 no label. You know, I was going through it. 738 00:23:12,925 --> 00:23:14,558 You know, I was going through it. So we came up with the name 739 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,559 it. So we came up with the name gnarls barkley. 740 00:23:15,561 --> 00:23:16,861 So we came up with the name gnarls barkley. It was danger -- I remember him 741 00:23:16,863 --> 00:23:17,762 gnarls barkley. It was danger -- I remember him calling me one time. 742 00:23:17,764 --> 00:23:18,462 It was danger -- I remember him calling me one time. He said, "yo." 743 00:23:18,464 --> 00:23:19,764 calling me one time. He said, "yo." it seemed like he was at a frat 744 00:23:19,766 --> 00:23:21,065 he said, "yo." it seemed like he was at a frat house or something -- there was 745 00:23:21,067 --> 00:23:22,299 it seemed like he was at a frat house or something -- there was a bunch of noise and laughter 746 00:23:22,301 --> 00:23:23,200 house or something -- there was a bunch of noise and laughter going on behind him. 747 00:23:23,202 --> 00:23:24,268 A bunch of noise and laughter going on behind him. He said, like, "yo, I was 748 00:23:24,270 --> 00:23:25,369 going on behind him. He said, like, "yo, I was shooting around with some 749 00:23:25,371 --> 00:23:26,537 he said, like, "yo, I was shooting around with some buddies of mine, having some 750 00:23:26,539 --> 00:23:26,937 shooting around with some buddies of mine, having some beers. 751 00:23:26,939 --> 00:23:28,272 Buddies of mine, having some beers. Man, we were just thinking about 752 00:23:28,274 --> 00:23:29,407 beers. Man, we were just thinking about group names and stuff like 753 00:23:29,409 --> 00:23:29,807 man, we were just thinking about group names and stuff like that." 754 00:23:29,809 --> 00:23:33,711 group names and stuff like that." and I was like, "yo, what do you 755 00:23:33,713 --> 00:23:37,281 that." and I was like, "yo, what do you think about gnarls barkley or 756 00:23:37,283 --> 00:23:40,551 and I was like, "yo, what do you think about gnarls barkley or prince gnarls or gnarls in 757 00:23:40,553 --> 00:23:45,022 think about gnarls barkley or prince gnarls or gnarls in charge?" [ laughs ] 758 00:23:45,024 --> 00:23:46,524 prince gnarls or gnarls in charge?" [ laughs ] so I said, "I like 759 00:23:46,526 --> 00:23:48,692 charge?" [ laughs ] so I said, "I like gnarls barkley out of all of 760 00:23:48,694 --> 00:23:49,427 so I said, "I like gnarls barkley out of all of them." 761 00:23:49,429 --> 00:23:51,362 gnarls barkley out of all of them." and his logic was, it's 762 00:23:51,364 --> 00:23:53,798 them." and his logic was, it's rock'n'roll, so if you notice, 763 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,800 and his logic was, it's rock'n'roll, so if you notice, it's a rule of thumb for 764 00:23:55,802 --> 00:23:58,302 rock'n'roll, so if you notice, it's a rule of thumb for rock'n'roll groups -- like, you 765 00:23:58,304 --> 00:24:00,237 it's a rule of thumb for rock'n'roll groups -- like, you do something -- you say 766 00:24:00,239 --> 00:24:01,772 rock'n'roll groups -- like, you do something -- you say something absurd. 767 00:24:01,774 --> 00:24:03,974 Do something -- you say something absurd. Like, you've got groups named 768 00:24:03,976 --> 00:24:05,376 something absurd. Like, you've got groups named "oingo boingo" or 769 00:24:05,378 --> 00:24:06,744 like, you've got groups named "oingo boingo" or "lynyrd skynyrd" or 770 00:24:06,746 --> 00:24:08,212 "oingo boingo" or "lynyrd skynyrd" or "goo goo dolls," you know what 771 00:24:08,214 --> 00:24:08,913 "lynyrd skynyrd" or "goo goo dolls," you know what I'm saying? 772 00:24:08,915 --> 00:24:10,181 "goo goo dolls," you know what I'm saying? It was just like, it's so 773 00:24:10,183 --> 00:24:11,749 I'm saying? It was just like, it's so absurd that you can't forget it. 774 00:24:11,751 --> 00:24:12,883 It was just like, it's so absurd that you can't forget it. That's how it came up. 775 00:24:12,885 --> 00:24:14,385 Absurd that you can't forget it. That's how it came up. I wanted to name the group 776 00:24:14,387 --> 00:24:16,053 that's how it came up. I wanted to name the group scarlet fever, because I felt 777 00:24:16,055 --> 00:24:17,688 I wanted to name the group scarlet fever, because I felt like, you know, the style was 778 00:24:17,690 --> 00:24:18,956 scarlet fever, because I felt like, you know, the style was like a rare sickness. 779 00:24:18,958 --> 00:24:20,558 Like, you know, the style was like a rare sickness. So I'm like, "scarlet fever, 780 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,625 like a rare sickness. So I'm like, "scarlet fever, that feels good." 781 00:24:21,627 --> 00:24:24,261 so I'm like, "scarlet fever, that feels good." but they was like, "nah." 782 00:24:24,263 --> 00:24:27,431 that feels good." but they was like, "nah." gnarls barkley was independent. 783 00:24:27,433 --> 00:24:30,100 But they was like, "nah." gnarls barkley was independent. That record that leaked when we 784 00:24:30,102 --> 00:24:32,303 gnarls barkley was independent. That record that leaked when we was shopping it around to 785 00:24:32,305 --> 00:24:34,805 that record that leaked when we was shopping it around to labels -- "crazy" got leaked, 786 00:24:34,807 --> 00:24:36,874 was shopping it around to labels -- "crazy" got leaked, and it ends up going to 787 00:24:36,876 --> 00:24:40,010 labels -- "crazy" got leaked, and it ends up going to number one on the u.K. Charts 788 00:24:40,012 --> 00:24:43,247 and it ends up going to number one on the u.K. Charts for either 7 or 8 weeks before 789 00:24:43,249 --> 00:24:46,150 number one on the u.K. Charts for either 7 or 8 weeks before we even signed a deal. 790 00:24:46,152 --> 00:24:48,819 For either 7 or 8 weeks before we even signed a deal. So we had gnarls barkley's 791 00:24:48,821 --> 00:24:49,954 we even signed a deal. So we had gnarls barkley's "crazy." 792 00:24:49,956 --> 00:24:52,623 so we had gnarls barkley's "crazy." I wrote and produced "don't cha" 793 00:24:52,625 --> 00:24:55,059 "crazy." I wrote and produced "don't cha" for the pussycat dolls, which 794 00:24:55,061 --> 00:24:56,861 I wrote and produced "don't cha" for the pussycat dolls, which was also a number one, and he 795 00:24:56,863 --> 00:24:58,629 for the pussycat dolls, which was also a number one, and he had just got through writing 796 00:24:58,631 --> 00:25:01,031 was also a number one, and he had just got through writing "feel good, inc." for gorillaz. 797 00:25:01,033 --> 00:25:03,167 Had just got through writing "feel good, inc." for gorillaz. So we had three number ones. 798 00:25:03,169 --> 00:25:05,169 "feel good, inc." for gorillaz. So we had three number ones. When we sat down at the table to 799 00:25:05,171 --> 00:25:06,937 so we had three number ones. When we sat down at the table to do that deal, we had to talk 800 00:25:06,939 --> 00:25:08,906 when we sat down at the table to do that deal, we had to talk about it, you know what I mean? 801 00:25:08,908 --> 00:25:10,140 Do that deal, we had to talk about it, you know what I mean? So it was perfect. 802 00:25:10,142 --> 00:25:12,443 About it, you know what I mean? So it was perfect. Gnarls barkley was supposed to 803 00:25:12,445 --> 00:25:14,578 so it was perfect. Gnarls barkley was supposed to be someone totally different 804 00:25:14,580 --> 00:25:16,347 gnarls barkley was supposed to be someone totally different from either one of us. 805 00:25:16,349 --> 00:25:18,148 Be someone totally different from either one of us. Gnarls barkley was supposed to 806 00:25:18,150 --> 00:25:19,683 from either one of us. Gnarls barkley was supposed to be this enigmatic kind of 807 00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:23,821 gnarls barkley was supposed to be this enigmatic kind of character. 808 00:25:23,823 --> 00:25:26,190 Be this enigmatic kind of character. I always saw it, like, you know, 809 00:25:26,192 --> 00:25:30,928 character. I always saw it, like, you know, I was writing or reading memoirs 810 00:25:30,930 --> 00:25:32,530 I always saw it, like, you know, I was writing or reading memoirs of gnarls barkley, so these were 811 00:25:32,532 --> 00:25:34,098 I was writing or reading memoirs of gnarls barkley, so these were from his diary or something like 812 00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:34,532 of gnarls barkley, so these were from his diary or something like that. 813 00:25:34,534 --> 00:25:36,467 From his diary or something like that. So, like, it was totally out of 814 00:25:36,469 --> 00:25:37,001 that. So, like, it was totally out of body. 815 00:25:37,003 --> 00:25:38,702 So, like, it was totally out of body. It wasn't supposed to be so 816 00:25:38,704 --> 00:25:40,571 body. It wasn't supposed to be so immediately associated with me 817 00:25:40,573 --> 00:25:41,205 it wasn't supposed to be so immediately associated with me or him. 818 00:25:41,207 --> 00:25:42,973 Immediately associated with me or him. And I think that's what worked, 819 00:25:42,975 --> 00:25:44,575 or him. And I think that's what worked, and I think that's what made 820 00:25:44,577 --> 00:25:46,343 and I think that's what worked, and I think that's what made the second gnarls barkley album 821 00:25:46,345 --> 00:25:48,145 and I think that's what made the second gnarls barkley album not work as well, because a lot 822 00:25:48,147 --> 00:25:50,014 the second gnarls barkley album not work as well, because a lot of the songs were more personal. 823 00:25:50,016 --> 00:25:51,982 Not work as well, because a lot of the songs were more personal. I wrote songs about my mom and 824 00:25:51,984 --> 00:25:53,150 of the songs were more personal. I wrote songs about my mom and stuff like that. 825 00:25:53,152 --> 00:25:55,085 I wrote songs about my mom and stuff like that. So, you know, people were kind 826 00:25:55,087 --> 00:25:57,087 stuff like that. So, you know, people were kind of woken up from the dream, you 827 00:25:57,089 --> 00:25:59,123 so, you know, people were kind of woken up from the dream, you know, where it's like, "oh, ok, 828 00:25:59,125 --> 00:25:59,890 of woken up from the dream, you know, where it's like, "oh, ok, I get it. 829 00:25:59,892 --> 00:26:01,458 Know, where it's like, "oh, ok, I get it. You're gnarls barkley." 830 00:26:01,460 --> 00:26:01,959 I get it. You're gnarls barkley." and I was like, "no." 831 00:26:06,398 --> 00:26:12,736 >> green: I still didn't have a solo deal as ceelo green, so they was like, "can't let you 832 00:26:12,738 --> 00:26:13,637 a solo deal as ceelo green, so they was like, "can't let you go." 833 00:26:13,639 --> 00:26:14,838 so they was like, "can't let you go." you know what I mean? 834 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,106 Go." you know what I mean? Like, let's do a deal. 835 00:26:16,108 --> 00:26:17,675 You know what I mean? Like, let's do a deal. So did the deal, and they was 836 00:26:17,677 --> 00:26:19,076 like, let's do a deal. So did the deal, and they was like, "what do you want?" 837 00:26:19,078 --> 00:26:20,678 so did the deal, and they was like, "what do you want?" and I'm like, "I want to go to 838 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,212 like, "what do you want?" and I'm like, "I want to go to the bahamas, you know what I 839 00:26:22,214 --> 00:26:22,713 and I'm like, "I want to go to the bahamas, you know what I mean?" 840 00:26:22,715 --> 00:26:24,081 the bahamas, you know what I mean?" so I rented a mansion in 841 00:26:24,083 --> 00:26:25,749 mean?" so I rented a mansion in the bahamas and flew a bunch of 842 00:26:25,751 --> 00:26:27,384 so I rented a mansion in the bahamas and flew a bunch of stereo equipment in -- I mean, 843 00:26:27,386 --> 00:26:28,986 the bahamas and flew a bunch of stereo equipment in -- I mean, excuse me, recording equipment 844 00:26:28,988 --> 00:26:30,487 stereo equipment in -- I mean, excuse me, recording equipment out there and, you know, we 845 00:26:30,489 --> 00:26:32,156 excuse me, recording equipment out there and, you know, we holed up, had different writers 846 00:26:32,158 --> 00:26:32,756 out there and, you know, we holed up, had different writers come in. 847 00:26:32,758 --> 00:26:34,425 Holed up, had different writers come in. Still didn't get nothing out of 848 00:26:34,427 --> 00:26:35,192 come in. Still didn't get nothing out of those trips. 849 00:26:35,194 --> 00:26:36,226 Still didn't get nothing out of those trips. A bunch of music. 850 00:26:36,228 --> 00:26:37,528 Those trips. A bunch of music. I couldn't please them. 851 00:26:37,530 --> 00:26:41,699 A bunch of music. I couldn't please them. They was like, "yo, we -- 852 00:26:41,701 --> 00:26:44,335 I couldn't please them. They was like, "yo, we -- we still looking for that one. 853 00:26:44,337 --> 00:26:46,470 They was like, "yo, we -- we still looking for that one. So they were like, "let me 854 00:26:46,472 --> 00:26:48,772 we still looking for that one. So they were like, "let me introduce you to these kids, 855 00:26:48,774 --> 00:26:51,041 so they were like, "let me introduce you to these kids, phil and bruno," which ended 856 00:26:51,043 --> 00:26:53,210 introduce you to these kids, phil and bruno," which ended up being phil lawrence and 857 00:26:53,212 --> 00:26:54,311 phil and bruno," which ended up being phil lawrence and bruno mars. 858 00:26:54,313 --> 00:26:56,380 Up being phil lawrence and bruno mars. At the time, they were staff 859 00:26:56,382 --> 00:26:58,682 bruno mars. At the time, they were staff writers, kind of like behind the 860 00:26:58,684 --> 00:27:00,884 at the time, they were staff writers, kind of like behind the scenes, doing session work and 861 00:27:00,886 --> 00:27:03,120 writers, kind of like behind the scenes, doing session work and co-writing and stuff like that. 862 00:27:03,122 --> 00:27:05,255 Scenes, doing session work and co-writing and stuff like that. They came over to the studio. 863 00:27:05,257 --> 00:27:07,257 Co-writing and stuff like that. They came over to the studio. We were working out of this 864 00:27:07,259 --> 00:27:09,126 they came over to the studio. We were working out of this studio called nightbird. 865 00:27:09,128 --> 00:27:11,195 We were working out of this studio called nightbird. It's in the basement of this 866 00:27:11,197 --> 00:27:13,130 studio called nightbird. It's in the basement of this hotel, the sunset marquis. 867 00:27:13,132 --> 00:27:14,565 It's in the basement of this hotel, the sunset marquis. So they came over. 868 00:27:14,567 --> 00:27:16,500 Hotel, the sunset marquis. So they came over. I told them I was going to 869 00:27:16,502 --> 00:27:18,636 so they came over. I told them I was going to the restroom, and I just -- I 870 00:27:18,638 --> 00:27:19,937 I told them I was going to the restroom, and I just -- I never went back. 871 00:27:19,939 --> 00:27:22,139 The restroom, and I just -- I never went back. And I don't tell this story to 872 00:27:22,141 --> 00:27:24,308 never went back. And I don't tell this story to be disrespectful to them, it's 873 00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:25,309 and I don't tell this story to be disrespectful to them, it's just crazy. 874 00:27:25,311 --> 00:27:26,944 Be disrespectful to them, it's just crazy. It's just one of them 875 00:27:26,946 --> 00:27:28,512 just crazy. It's just one of them rock'n'roll stories. 876 00:27:28,514 --> 00:27:30,381 It's just one of them rock'n'roll stories. Anyway, I end up going to 877 00:27:30,383 --> 00:27:31,582 rock'n'roll stories. Anyway, I end up going to bruno's house. 878 00:27:31,584 --> 00:27:33,817 Anyway, I end up going to bruno's house. He has this studio, home studio 879 00:27:33,819 --> 00:27:35,252 bruno's house. He has this studio, home studio around the corner. 880 00:27:35,254 --> 00:27:36,453 He has this studio, home studio around the corner. Go over there. 881 00:27:36,455 --> 00:27:38,756 Around the corner. Go over there. A second time, after they got us 882 00:27:38,758 --> 00:27:40,958 go over there. A second time, after they got us back together, turns out these 883 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,826 a second time, after they got us back together, turns out these guys are really talented. 884 00:27:42,828 --> 00:27:44,194 Back together, turns out these guys are really talented. Really good guys. 885 00:27:44,196 --> 00:27:46,463 Guys are really talented. Really good guys. We end up all being the best of 886 00:27:46,465 --> 00:27:47,898 really good guys. We end up all being the best of friends, you know. 887 00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:49,199 We end up all being the best of friends, you know. They forgave me. 888 00:27:49,201 --> 00:27:50,968 Friends, you know. They forgave me. I had been working with 889 00:27:50,970 --> 00:27:52,970 they forgave me. I had been working with bruno mars for maybe, like, 890 00:27:52,972 --> 00:27:54,138 I had been working with bruno mars for maybe, like, a month or so. 891 00:27:54,140 --> 00:27:56,407 Bruno mars for maybe, like, a month or so. He wrote "just the way that you 892 00:27:56,409 --> 00:27:57,474 a month or so. He wrote "just the way that you are" for me. 893 00:27:57,476 --> 00:27:59,643 He wrote "just the way that you are" for me. I was like, "hmm, it's a great 894 00:27:59,645 --> 00:28:01,645 are" for me. I was like, "hmm, it's a great song, but it's not for me." 895 00:28:01,647 --> 00:28:03,514 I was like, "hmm, it's a great song, but it's not for me." then we did a song called 896 00:28:03,516 --> 00:28:05,716 song, but it's not for me." then we did a song called "the other side" for his debut 897 00:28:05,718 --> 00:28:06,417 then we did a song called "the other side" for his debut album. 898 00:28:06,419 --> 00:28:08,352 "the other side" for his debut album. And the third time was the 899 00:28:08,354 --> 00:28:09,019 album. And the third time was the charm. 900 00:28:09,021 --> 00:28:11,288 And the third time was the charm. He -- I went by that day and he 901 00:28:11,290 --> 00:28:13,290 charm. He -- I went by that day and he said, "man, check this out. 902 00:28:13,292 --> 00:28:14,658 He -- I went by that day and he said, "man, check this out. This is the idea. 903 00:28:14,660 --> 00:28:16,960 Said, "man, check this out. This is the idea. It ain't finished yet, it's just 904 00:28:16,962 --> 00:28:17,728 this is the idea. It ain't finished yet, it's just a hook. 905 00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:19,530 It ain't finished yet, it's just a hook. Tell me what you think." 906 00:28:19,532 --> 00:28:22,132 a hook. Tell me what you think." [ humming ] 907 00:28:22,134 --> 00:28:23,801 tell me what you think." [ humming ] you know what I'm saying? 908 00:28:23,803 --> 00:28:25,402 [ humming ] you know what I'm saying? We jump right in on it. 909 00:28:25,404 --> 00:28:26,904 You know what I'm saying? We jump right in on it. A lot of what you hear 910 00:28:26,906 --> 00:28:28,872 we jump right in on it. A lot of what you hear verse-wise is freestyling, you 911 00:28:28,874 --> 00:28:30,107 a lot of what you hear verse-wise is freestyling, you know what I mean? 912 00:28:30,109 --> 00:28:32,176 Verse-wise is freestyling, you know what I mean? I only think we only ever really 913 00:28:32,178 --> 00:28:34,144 know what I mean? I only think we only ever really wrote that song down on paper. 914 00:28:34,146 --> 00:28:36,180 I only think we only ever really wrote that song down on paper. I just went and sat at the mic, 915 00:28:36,182 --> 00:28:38,248 wrote that song down on paper. I just went and sat at the mic, and we just tossed lines around, 916 00:28:38,250 --> 00:28:40,150 I just went and sat at the mic, and we just tossed lines around, and we just kind of pieced it 917 00:28:40,152 --> 00:28:41,151 and we just tossed lines around, and we just kind of pieced it all together. 918 00:28:41,153 --> 00:28:43,020 And we just kind of pieced it all together. A lot of these songs that is 919 00:28:43,022 --> 00:28:44,988 all together. A lot of these songs that is a bit iconic, I almost hate to 920 00:28:44,990 --> 00:28:47,057 a lot of these songs that is a bit iconic, I almost hate to talk about them because you kind 921 00:28:47,059 --> 00:28:48,625 a bit iconic, I almost hate to talk about them because you kind of give away the magic. 922 00:28:48,627 --> 00:28:50,527 Talk about them because you kind of give away the magic. They're so -- there's no big, 923 00:28:50,529 --> 00:28:52,629 of give away the magic. They're so -- there's no big, elaborate story surrounding most 924 00:28:52,631 --> 00:28:53,731 they're so -- there's no big, elaborate story surrounding most of these songs. 925 00:28:53,733 --> 00:28:55,766 Elaborate story surrounding most of these songs. So we're riding high off of the 926 00:28:55,768 --> 00:29:01,905 of these songs. So we're riding high off of the success of "[bleep] you." 927 00:29:01,907 --> 00:29:03,140 so we're riding high off of the success of "[bleep] you." and I was doing 928 00:29:03,142 --> 00:29:05,042 success of "[bleep] you." and I was doing the musical performance on 929 00:29:05,044 --> 00:29:07,277 and I was doing the musical performance on "Saturday night live", which is 930 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:09,379 the musical performance on "Saturday night live", which is coveted -- not everybody gets 931 00:29:09,381 --> 00:29:11,482 "Saturday night live", which is coveted -- not everybody gets the opportunity to do it, so. 932 00:29:11,484 --> 00:29:15,385 Coveted -- not everybody gets the opportunity to do it, so. Mark burnett, executive producer 933 00:29:15,387 --> 00:29:19,323 the opportunity to do it, so. Mark burnett, executive producer of "the apprentice," "survivor," 934 00:29:19,325 --> 00:29:21,291 mark burnett, executive producer of "the apprentice," "survivor," you know, so many other 935 00:29:21,293 --> 00:29:23,694 of "the apprentice," "survivor," you know, so many other successful tv shows was doing 936 00:29:23,696 --> 00:29:25,095 you know, so many other successful tv shows was doing "the voice," and he just 937 00:29:25,097 --> 00:29:26,764 successful tv shows was doing "the voice," and he just happened to be in the audience 938 00:29:26,766 --> 00:29:28,332 "the voice," and he just happened to be in the audience at "Saturday night live" and 939 00:29:28,334 --> 00:29:29,533 happened to be in the audience at "Saturday night live" and took a liking to me. 940 00:29:29,535 --> 00:29:31,135 At "Saturday night live" and took a liking to me. Me, adam levine, 941 00:29:31,137 --> 00:29:33,303 took a liking to me. Me, adam levine, christina aguilera, and 942 00:29:33,305 --> 00:29:35,372 me, adam levine, christina aguilera, and blake shelton had dinner one 943 00:29:35,374 --> 00:29:36,073 christina aguilera, and blake shelton had dinner one night. 944 00:29:36,075 --> 00:29:38,375 Blake shelton had dinner one night. I mean, adam was already cool. 945 00:29:38,377 --> 00:29:39,643 Night. I mean, adam was already cool. Then he says, "what do you think 946 00:29:39,645 --> 00:29:40,511 I mean, adam was already cool. Then he says, "what do you think about this idea, man? 947 00:29:40,513 --> 00:29:41,612 Then he says, "what do you think about this idea, man? If you don't do it, I'm not 948 00:29:41,614 --> 00:29:42,312 about this idea, man? If you don't do it, I'm not going to do it." 949 00:29:42,314 --> 00:29:43,514 if you don't do it, I'm not going to do it." and I was like, "I don't know. 950 00:29:43,516 --> 00:29:44,314 Going to do it." and I was like, "I don't know. It's kind of cool." 951 00:29:44,316 --> 00:29:46,350 and I was like, "I don't know. It's kind of cool." and what I liked about it was, 952 00:29:46,352 --> 00:29:48,385 it's kind of cool." and what I liked about it was, you know, the revolving chair. 953 00:29:48,387 --> 00:29:50,454 And what I liked about it was, you know, the revolving chair. I liked the fact that it wasn't 954 00:29:50,456 --> 00:29:52,356 you know, the revolving chair. I liked the fact that it wasn't based off of imaging, it was 955 00:29:52,358 --> 00:29:54,358 I liked the fact that it wasn't based off of imaging, it was based off of the integrity of 956 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,559 based off of imaging, it was based off of the integrity of someone's voice. 957 00:29:55,561 --> 00:29:58,228 Based off of the integrity of someone's voice. So that's how it came about. 958 00:29:58,230 --> 00:30:00,564 Someone's voice. So that's how it came about. I was doing "the voice." 959 00:30:00,566 --> 00:30:02,699 so that's how it came about. I was doing "the voice." everyone else was releasing 960 00:30:02,701 --> 00:30:05,035 I was doing "the voice." everyone else was releasing new music besides myself, so I 961 00:30:05,037 --> 00:30:07,070 everyone else was releasing new music besides myself, so I had a conversation with my 962 00:30:07,072 --> 00:30:09,540 new music besides myself, so I had a conversation with my label, and I initially suggested 963 00:30:09,542 --> 00:30:10,707 had a conversation with my label, and I initially suggested that we do a covers album, 964 00:30:10,709 --> 00:30:11,909 label, and I initially suggested that we do a covers album, because we wouldn't have had 965 00:30:11,911 --> 00:30:13,143 that we do a covers album, because we wouldn't have had enough time to do, you know, 966 00:30:13,145 --> 00:30:17,815 because we wouldn't have had enough time to do, you know, another full-length project. 967 00:30:17,817 --> 00:30:19,116 Enough time to do, you know, another full-length project. So I said, "this could be quick 968 00:30:19,118 --> 00:30:19,817 another full-length project. So I said, "this could be quick and convenient. 969 00:30:19,819 --> 00:30:20,884 So I said, "this could be quick and convenient. Let's do a covers album." 970 00:30:20,886 --> 00:30:22,119 and convenient. Let's do a covers album." and I wanted to call it 971 00:30:22,121 --> 00:30:23,320 let's do a covers album." and I wanted to call it "under the covers with 972 00:30:23,322 --> 00:30:24,121 and I wanted to call it "under the covers with ceelo green." 973 00:30:24,123 --> 00:30:25,956 "under the covers with ceelo green." instead, we decided to do 974 00:30:25,958 --> 00:30:27,357 ceelo green." instead, we decided to do a christmas album. 975 00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:29,293 Instead, we decided to do a christmas album. Yeah, that's another one of 976 00:30:29,295 --> 00:30:34,064 a christmas album. Yeah, that's another one of those...Exceptional things 977 00:30:34,066 --> 00:30:35,365 yeah, that's another one of those...Exceptional things I've been able to do. 978 00:30:35,367 --> 00:30:37,100 Those...Exceptional things I've been able to do. My career has been almost like 979 00:30:37,102 --> 00:30:38,902 I've been able to do. My career has been almost like forrest gump -- just, you know. 980 00:30:38,904 --> 00:30:40,537 My career has been almost like forrest gump -- just, you know. I can't believe some of this 981 00:30:40,539 --> 00:30:42,206 forrest gump -- just, you know. I can't believe some of this stuff is happening, you know 982 00:30:42,208 --> 00:30:43,040 I can't believe some of this stuff is happening, you know what I mean? 983 00:30:43,042 --> 00:30:47,077 Stuff is happening, you know what I mean? Because that's an amazing feat. 984 00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:51,782 What I mean? Because that's an amazing feat. At this point, I wanted to do 985 00:30:51,784 --> 00:30:53,984 because that's an amazing feat. At this point, I wanted to do something different and shake it 986 00:30:53,986 --> 00:30:55,252 at this point, I wanted to do something different and shake it up a little bit. 987 00:30:55,254 --> 00:30:57,387 Something different and shake it up a little bit. And I'd been sitting around and 988 00:30:57,389 --> 00:30:59,590 up a little bit. And I'd been sitting around and just kind of thinking to myself, 989 00:30:59,592 --> 00:31:00,958 and I'd been sitting around and just kind of thinking to myself, "what could I do?" 990 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,862 just kind of thinking to myself, "what could I do?" so I come up with this other 991 00:31:04,864 --> 00:31:06,964 "what could I do?" so I come up with this other extraterrestrial character, 992 00:31:06,966 --> 00:31:09,299 so I come up with this other extraterrestrial character, gnarly davidson. 993 00:31:09,301 --> 00:31:12,069 Extraterrestrial character, gnarly davidson. The backstory behind the name 994 00:31:12,071 --> 00:31:13,971 gnarly davidson. The backstory behind the name is I was kind of going back and 995 00:31:13,973 --> 00:31:15,772 the backstory behind the name is I was kind of going back and forth with danger mouse about 996 00:31:15,774 --> 00:31:19,409 is I was kind of going back and forth with danger mouse about when we were going to actually 997 00:31:19,411 --> 00:31:22,846 forth with danger mouse about when we were going to actually do the third and last 998 00:31:22,848 --> 00:31:24,147 when we were going to actually do the third and last gnarls barkley album. 999 00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:25,949 Do the third and last gnarls barkley album. And I said, "well, I'll just do 1000 00:31:25,951 --> 00:31:27,584 gnarls barkley album. And I said, "well, I'll just do something to amuse myself -- 1001 00:31:27,586 --> 00:31:29,019 and I said, "well, I'll just do something to amuse myself -- a play on it, you know." 1002 00:31:29,021 --> 00:31:30,854 something to amuse myself -- a play on it, you know." do a mixtape or just something 1003 00:31:30,856 --> 00:31:32,756 a play on it, you know." do a mixtape or just something and just put it out there, just 1004 00:31:32,758 --> 00:31:34,625 do a mixtape or just something and just put it out there, just to get some new music and some 1005 00:31:34,627 --> 00:31:35,459 and just put it out there, just to get some new music and some vibe going. 1006 00:31:35,461 --> 00:31:38,562 To get some new music and some vibe going. So gnarly davidson came out. 1007 00:31:38,564 --> 00:31:39,696 Vibe going. So gnarly davidson came out. I went to all of these 1008 00:31:39,698 --> 00:31:40,898 so gnarly davidson came out. I went to all of these special effects people, 1009 00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:44,935 I went to all of these special effects people, you know, that do -- you know, I 1010 00:31:44,937 --> 00:31:46,603 special effects people, you know, that do -- you know, I think they worked on "avatar" 1011 00:31:46,605 --> 00:31:48,038 you know, that do -- you know, I think they worked on "avatar" and "lord of the rings." 1012 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,140 think they worked on "avatar" and "lord of the rings." and, you know, like, that mask 1013 00:31:50,142 --> 00:31:51,942 and "lord of the rings." and, you know, like, that mask and all of the technology 1014 00:31:51,944 --> 00:31:53,310 and, you know, like, that mask and all of the technology underneath it to make it glow 1015 00:31:53,312 --> 00:31:54,745 and all of the technology underneath it to make it glow and work, you know, I just went 1016 00:31:54,747 --> 00:31:55,479 underneath it to make it glow and work, you know, I just went in my pocket. 1017 00:31:55,481 --> 00:31:56,847 And work, you know, I just went in my pocket. I was like, "yo, I'm-a go all 1018 00:31:56,849 --> 00:31:58,015 in my pocket. I was like, "yo, I'm-a go all out for this character." 1019 00:31:58,017 --> 00:32:00,117 I was like, "yo, I'm-a go all out for this character." right? So when you think of 1020 00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:02,286 out for this character." right? So when you think of superheroes of villains, you 1021 00:32:02,288 --> 00:32:03,854 right? So when you think of superheroes of villains, you know that something 1022 00:32:03,856 --> 00:32:06,423 superheroes of villains, you know that something post-traumatic has happened, 1023 00:32:06,425 --> 00:32:08,558 know that something post-traumatic has happened, thus, you know, become 1024 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,027 post-traumatic has happened, thus, you know, become the character. 1025 00:32:10,029 --> 00:32:12,329 Thus, you know, become the character. So, you know, peter parker got 1026 00:32:12,331 --> 00:32:14,498 the character. So, you know, peter parker got bit by a radioactive spider. 1027 00:32:14,500 --> 00:32:16,566 So, you know, peter parker got bit by a radioactive spider. You know, bruce wayne's parents 1028 00:32:16,568 --> 00:32:18,568 bit by a radioactive spider. You know, bruce wayne's parents were brutally murdered outside 1029 00:32:18,570 --> 00:32:19,436 you know, bruce wayne's parents were brutally murdered outside of a play. 1030 00:32:19,438 --> 00:32:21,605 Were brutally murdered outside of a play. You know, so something happens. 1031 00:32:21,607 --> 00:32:23,707 Of a play. You know, so something happens. All of the samsung phones were 1032 00:32:23,709 --> 00:32:25,375 you know, so something happens. All of the samsung phones were exploding in real life. 1033 00:32:25,377 --> 00:32:26,677 All of the samsung phones were exploding in real life. So at first, I was going to be 1034 00:32:26,679 --> 00:32:27,844 exploding in real life. So at first, I was going to be like, "yo, I'm going to get 1035 00:32:27,846 --> 00:32:28,946 so at first, I was going to be like, "yo, I'm going to get a sponsorship from puff, 1036 00:32:28,948 --> 00:32:30,213 like, "yo, I'm going to get a sponsorship from puff, I'm going to be in the studio, 1037 00:32:30,215 --> 00:32:31,481 a sponsorship from puff, I'm going to be in the studio, I'm going to be drinking some 1038 00:32:31,483 --> 00:32:32,749 I'm going to be in the studio, I'm going to be drinking some ciroq, and then it's going to 1039 00:32:32,751 --> 00:32:33,951 I'm going to be drinking some ciroq, and then it's going to spill on the board, and then 1040 00:32:33,953 --> 00:32:35,285 ciroq, and then it's going to spill on the board, and then it's going to blow up -- boom." 1041 00:32:35,287 --> 00:32:36,219 spill on the board, and then it's going to blow up -- boom." you know? [ laughs ] 1042 00:32:36,221 --> 00:32:37,354 it's going to blow up -- boom." you know? [ laughs ] and I'm going to become -- 1043 00:32:37,356 --> 00:32:38,555 you know? [ laughs ] and I'm going to become -- but that was kind of goofy. 1044 00:32:38,557 --> 00:32:40,924 And I'm going to become -- but that was kind of goofy. So the samsung things were real 1045 00:32:40,926 --> 00:32:43,393 but that was kind of goofy. So the samsung things were real life, so I got a friend of mine, 1046 00:32:43,395 --> 00:32:45,696 so the samsung things were real life, so I got a friend of mine, you know, who's directed a few 1047 00:32:45,698 --> 00:32:47,898 life, so I got a friend of mine, you know, who's directed a few of my videos -- shout out to 1048 00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:49,900 you know, who's directed a few of my videos -- shout out to john colombo -- and I was like, 1049 00:32:49,902 --> 00:32:51,802 of my videos -- shout out to john colombo -- and I was like, "yo, can we make this happen? 1050 00:32:51,804 --> 00:32:53,070 John colombo -- and I was like, "yo, can we make this happen? Blah, blah, blah." 1051 00:32:53,072 --> 00:32:55,639 "yo, can we make this happen? Blah, blah, blah." so I wanted the character to be 1052 00:32:55,641 --> 00:32:58,241 blah, blah, blah." so I wanted the character to be this kind of a cyborg, you know, 1053 00:32:58,243 --> 00:33:00,744 so I wanted the character to be this kind of a cyborg, you know, kind of character, to where he 1054 00:33:00,746 --> 00:33:02,579 this kind of a cyborg, you know, kind of character, to where he was just all-knowing. 1055 00:33:02,581 --> 00:33:05,082 Kind of character, to where he was just all-knowing. I said, "let's take a real life 1056 00:33:05,084 --> 00:33:07,351 was just all-knowing. I said, "let's take a real life event and it'll make it more 1057 00:33:07,353 --> 00:33:08,518 I said, "let's take a real life event and it'll make it more believable." 1058 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,922 event and it'll make it more believable." so what happened was what you 1059 00:33:11,924 --> 00:33:14,891 believable." so what happened was what you saw was a pass as we were 1060 00:33:14,893 --> 00:33:18,295 so what happened was what you saw was a pass as we were dialing up the effects on it. 1061 00:33:18,297 --> 00:33:20,197 Saw was a pass as we were dialing up the effects on it. You know, I'm like, "ok, there's 1062 00:33:20,199 --> 00:33:21,932 dialing up the effects on it. You know, I'm like, "ok, there's too much smoke and not enough 1063 00:33:21,934 --> 00:33:23,200 you know, I'm like, "ok, there's too much smoke and not enough sizzle," or whatever 1064 00:33:23,202 --> 00:33:24,368 too much smoke and not enough sizzle," or whatever the critique was. 1065 00:33:24,370 --> 00:33:26,036 Sizzle," or whatever the critique was. Yeah, so one of the e-mails 1066 00:33:26,038 --> 00:33:29,206 the critique was. Yeah, so one of the e-mails leaked... 1067 00:33:29,208 --> 00:33:32,409 Yeah, so one of the e-mails leaked... Everybody picks it up and goes 1068 00:33:32,411 --> 00:33:35,078 leaked... Everybody picks it up and goes super-duper-duper viral. 1069 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:41,618 Everybody picks it up and goes super-duper-duper viral. And it was terrible because 1070 00:33:41,620 --> 00:33:43,086 super-duper-duper viral. And it was terrible because people were afraid for me. 1071 00:33:43,088 --> 00:33:44,654 And it was terrible because people were afraid for me. People were petrified for my 1072 00:33:44,656 --> 00:33:46,623 people were afraid for me. People were petrified for my life, you know what I'm saying? 1073 00:33:46,625 --> 00:33:48,625 People were petrified for my life, you know what I'm saying? Thinking I'm somewhere hurt, you 1074 00:33:48,627 --> 00:33:50,627 life, you know what I'm saying? Thinking I'm somewhere hurt, you know, and burnt to death almost. 1075 00:33:50,629 --> 00:33:51,762 Thinking I'm somewhere hurt, you know, and burnt to death almost. So it wasn't even funny, 1076 00:33:51,764 --> 00:33:52,796 know, and burnt to death almost. So it wasn't even funny, you know what I mean? 1077 00:33:52,798 --> 00:33:57,000 So it wasn't even funny, you know what I mean? Like and everybody -- everybody, 1078 00:33:57,002 --> 00:33:58,468 you know what I mean? Like and everybody -- everybody, you know, you could think of 1079 00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:59,803 like and everybody -- everybody, you know, you could think of called me to check on me. 1080 00:33:59,805 --> 00:34:02,172 You know, you could think of called me to check on me. But it got so big so quick, 1081 00:34:02,174 --> 00:34:03,774 called me to check on me. But it got so big so quick, I had to stop it. 1082 00:34:03,776 --> 00:34:05,175 But it got so big so quick, I had to stop it. You know, I was going to kind of 1083 00:34:05,177 --> 00:34:06,309 I had to stop it. You know, I was going to kind of let it play out, you know. 1084 00:34:06,311 --> 00:34:07,677 You know, I was going to kind of let it play out, you know. There was a part of me that was 1085 00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:08,879 let it play out, you know. There was a part of me that was amused by it because it was 1086 00:34:08,881 --> 00:34:10,580 there was a part of me that was amused by it because it was just, like -- it was on the 1087 00:34:10,582 --> 00:34:12,149 amused by it because it was just, like -- it was on the news, it was everywhere. 1088 00:34:12,151 --> 00:34:13,950 Just, like -- it was on the news, it was everywhere. It was on international news. 1089 00:34:13,952 --> 00:34:15,619 News, it was everywhere. It was on international news. But it was just a mistake. 1090 00:34:15,621 --> 00:34:17,954 It was on international news. But it was just a mistake. We dropped the ball on what 1091 00:34:17,956 --> 00:34:20,657 but it was just a mistake. We dropped the ball on what could have been something great. 1092 00:34:20,659 --> 00:34:22,893 We dropped the ball on what could have been something great. I went to the grammys that next 1093 00:34:22,895 --> 00:34:25,062 could have been something great. I went to the grammys that next year in full gear, you know -- 1094 00:34:25,064 --> 00:34:27,464 I went to the grammys that next year in full gear, you know -- in the gold man, as he's 1095 00:34:27,466 --> 00:34:28,865 year in full gear, you know -- in the gold man, as he's referred to. 1096 00:34:28,867 --> 00:34:31,168 In the gold man, as he's referred to. But it didn't make any sense. 1097 00:34:31,170 --> 00:34:32,736 Referred to. But it didn't make any sense. So I basically had to shelve 1098 00:34:32,738 --> 00:34:33,804 but it didn't make any sense. So I basically had to shelve the whole project. 1099 00:34:33,806 --> 00:34:36,473 So I basically had to shelve the whole project. So I have an entire album done 1100 00:34:36,475 --> 00:34:38,408 the whole project. So I have an entire album done with this character, 1101 00:34:38,410 --> 00:34:40,310 so I have an entire album done with this character, gnarly davidson, and I never 1102 00:34:40,312 --> 00:34:42,479 with this character, gnarly davidson, and I never really released any of the music 1103 00:34:42,481 --> 00:34:44,514 gnarly davidson, and I never really released any of the music besides one song -- well, two, 1104 00:34:44,516 --> 00:34:45,315 really released any of the music besides one song -- well, two, actually. 1105 00:34:45,317 --> 00:34:46,583 Besides one song -- well, two, actually. I got all of the memes. 1106 00:34:46,585 --> 00:34:48,051 Actually. I got all of the memes. And look, I didn't even have 1107 00:34:48,053 --> 00:34:49,586 I got all of the memes. And look, I didn't even have clearance to be on the carpet 1108 00:34:49,588 --> 00:34:50,253 and look, I didn't even have clearance to be on the carpet that year. 1109 00:34:50,255 --> 00:34:51,621 Clearance to be on the carpet that year. They tried to arrest me. 1110 00:34:51,623 --> 00:34:52,789 That year. They tried to arrest me. I was running up -- 1111 00:34:52,791 --> 00:34:53,924 they tried to arrest me. I was running up -- can I tell y'all -- 1112 00:34:53,926 --> 00:34:55,625 I was running up -- can I tell y'all -- I can tell y'all now because 1113 00:34:55,627 --> 00:34:56,893 can I tell y'all -- I can tell y'all now because this is years later. 1114 00:34:56,895 --> 00:34:59,429 I can tell y'all now because this is years later. My original idea, I had these 1115 00:34:59,431 --> 00:35:02,032 this is years later. My original idea, I had these gold ak-47s and I was going to 1116 00:35:02,034 --> 00:35:04,501 my original idea, I had these gold ak-47s and I was going to go in there with the blanks, 1117 00:35:04,503 --> 00:35:05,735 gold ak-47s and I was going to go in there with the blanks, rush up in the red carpet, 1118 00:35:05,737 --> 00:35:08,572 go in there with the blanks, rush up in the red carpet, and... [ imitates machine gun 1119 00:35:08,574 --> 00:35:10,140 rush up in the red carpet, and... [ imitates machine gun fire, laughs ] 1120 00:35:10,142 --> 00:35:12,676 and... [ imitates machine gun fire, laughs ] my manager was like, "uh-uh. 1121 00:35:12,678 --> 00:35:16,146 Fire, laughs ] my manager was like, "uh-uh. Uh-uh, pimp, you can't do that." 1122 00:35:16,148 --> 00:35:17,881 my manager was like, "uh-uh. Uh-uh, pimp, you can't do that." so they never gave me no 1123 00:35:17,883 --> 00:35:19,616 uh-uh, pimp, you can't do that." so they never gave me no clearances, no passes or 1124 00:35:19,618 --> 00:35:21,485 so they never gave me no clearances, no passes or nothing, and people didn't 1125 00:35:21,487 --> 00:35:23,386 clearances, no passes or nothing, and people didn't necessarily know it was me. 1126 00:35:23,388 --> 00:35:24,921 Nothing, and people didn't necessarily know it was me. So I just stormed the gates. 1127 00:35:24,923 --> 00:35:26,590 Necessarily know it was me. So I just stormed the gates. I just walked through there and 1128 00:35:26,592 --> 00:35:28,225 so I just stormed the gates. I just walked through there and I trolled the whole situation. 1129 00:35:28,227 --> 00:35:30,393 I just walked through there and I trolled the whole situation. I tried to grab ryan seacrest 1130 00:35:30,395 --> 00:35:31,628 I trolled the whole situation. I tried to grab ryan seacrest and choke him. 1131 00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:33,563 I tried to grab ryan seacrest and choke him. You know, like... [ laughs ] 1132 00:35:33,565 --> 00:35:34,865 and choke him. You know, like... [ laughs ] you know, I was snatching at 1133 00:35:34,867 --> 00:35:36,133 you know, like... [ laughs ] you know, I was snatching at the cameras, you know, like 1134 00:35:36,135 --> 00:35:37,467 you know, I was snatching at the cameras, you know, like a bunch of stuff, just having 1135 00:35:37,469 --> 00:35:37,801 the cameras, you know, like a bunch of stuff, just having fun. 1136 00:35:37,803 --> 00:35:38,835 A bunch of stuff, just having fun. I thought it was fun. 1137 00:35:38,837 --> 00:35:40,170 Fun. I thought it was fun. I mean, I just thought it was 1138 00:35:40,172 --> 00:35:40,403 I thought it was fun. I mean, I just thought it was funny. 1139 00:35:44,742 --> 00:35:46,209 >> puff decided he wanted to 1140 00:35:46,344 --> 00:35:47,777 record all these albums and 1141 00:35:47,912 --> 00:35:49,412 produce, and he was like, "we 1142 00:35:49,547 --> 00:35:51,181 need some incredible writers to 1143 00:35:51,315 --> 00:35:51,748 come out to the bahamas." 1144 00:35:53,317 --> 00:35:57,487 >> green: So, he was like, "yo, go through these beats, pick what you like, and just take 1145 00:35:57,489 --> 00:35:59,156 go through these beats, pick what you like, and just take them and write to them in your 1146 00:35:59,158 --> 00:35:59,823 what you like, and just take them and write to them in your own time. 1147 00:35:59,825 --> 00:36:01,892 Them and write to them in your own time. I was like, "alright," so I 1148 00:36:01,894 --> 00:36:03,927 own time. I was like, "alright," so I picked these beats, and... 1149 00:36:03,929 --> 00:36:05,996 I was like, "alright," so I picked these beats, and... [ laughs ] 1150 00:36:05,998 --> 00:36:10,000 picked these beats, and... [ laughs ] I didn't feel like I could... 1151 00:36:10,002 --> 00:36:12,068 [ laughs ] I didn't feel like I could... Function and I was starting to 1152 00:36:12,070 --> 00:36:16,139 I didn't feel like I could... Function and I was starting to become anxious or whatever, so I 1153 00:36:16,141 --> 00:36:17,240 function and I was starting to become anxious or whatever, so I left. 1154 00:36:17,242 --> 00:36:19,042 Become anxious or whatever, so I left. I didn't write anything that 1155 00:36:19,044 --> 00:36:19,876 left. I didn't write anything that whole day. 1156 00:36:19,878 --> 00:36:21,211 I didn't write anything that whole day. Because y'all was there for a 1157 00:36:21,213 --> 00:36:21,645 whole day. Because y'all was there for a month. 1158 00:36:21,647 --> 00:36:22,179 Because y'all was there for a month. >> yeah. 1159 00:36:22,181 --> 00:36:23,513 Month. >> yeah. >> green: I stayed for a day. 1160 00:36:23,515 --> 00:36:25,048 >> yeah. >> green: I stayed for a day. I left in the middle of 1161 00:36:25,050 --> 00:36:26,783 >> green: I stayed for a day. I left in the middle of the night and I didn't tell 1162 00:36:26,785 --> 00:36:29,419 I left in the middle of the night and I didn't tell anybody that I was leaving. 1163 00:36:29,421 --> 00:36:31,288 The night and I didn't tell anybody that I was leaving. He was like, "yo." 1164 00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:32,355 anybody that I was leaving. He was like, "yo." [ laughs ] 1165 00:36:32,357 --> 00:36:34,424 he was like, "yo." [ laughs ] "playboy, you can't do business 1166 00:36:34,426 --> 00:36:35,559 [ laughs ] "playboy, you can't do business like this, bro. 1167 00:36:35,561 --> 00:36:36,726 "playboy, you can't do business like this, bro. Like, you could have told me. 1168 00:36:36,728 --> 00:36:37,527 Like this, bro. Like, you could have told me. Anything you need. 1169 00:36:37,529 --> 00:36:38,628 Like, you could have told me. Anything you need. I asked you 3 or 4 times if 1170 00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:39,696 anything you need. I asked you 3 or 4 times if there was anything that you 1171 00:36:39,698 --> 00:36:40,297 I asked you 3 or 4 times if there was anything that you needed, man. 1172 00:36:40,299 --> 00:36:41,565 There was anything that you needed, man. You could have told me whatever, 1173 00:36:41,567 --> 00:36:41,798 needed, man. You could have told me whatever, man." 1174 00:36:46,003 --> 00:36:51,841 >> green: I met my fiance, shani, about 10 years ago, in l.A.. 1175 00:36:51,843 --> 00:36:53,109 Shani, about 10 years ago, in l.A.. She's originally from 1176 00:36:53,111 --> 00:36:54,010 in l.A.. She's originally from san francisco. 1177 00:36:54,012 --> 00:36:56,279 She's originally from san francisco. The story goes, we were both in 1178 00:36:56,281 --> 00:36:59,149 san francisco. The story goes, we were both in canada the weekend prior, and 1179 00:36:59,151 --> 00:37:01,685 the story goes, we were both in canada the weekend prior, and apparently, she was a fan 1180 00:37:01,687 --> 00:37:04,187 canada the weekend prior, and apparently, she was a fan of my music and I was doing 1181 00:37:04,189 --> 00:37:05,922 apparently, she was a fan of my music and I was doing a performance in canada, and her 1182 00:37:05,924 --> 00:37:07,591 of my music and I was doing a performance in canada, and her friend was like, "yo, your guy 1183 00:37:07,593 --> 00:37:08,959 a performance in canada, and her friend was like, "yo, your guy is in town doing a show. 1184 00:37:08,961 --> 00:37:09,960 Friend was like, "yo, your guy is in town doing a show. You want to go?" 1185 00:37:09,962 --> 00:37:11,294 is in town doing a show. You want to go?" and I guess she had a 1186 00:37:11,296 --> 00:37:13,163 you want to go?" and I guess she had a presentation earlier that day -- 1187 00:37:13,165 --> 00:37:15,065 and I guess she had a presentation earlier that day -- or, excuse me, earlier that next 1188 00:37:15,067 --> 00:37:16,833 presentation earlier that day -- or, excuse me, earlier that next morning and wasn't going to be 1189 00:37:16,835 --> 00:37:17,901 or, excuse me, earlier that next morning and wasn't going to be able to make it. 1190 00:37:17,903 --> 00:37:19,769 Morning and wasn't going to be able to make it. So it turns out, if you guys 1191 00:37:19,771 --> 00:37:21,771 able to make it. So it turns out, if you guys have ever been to l.A., there's 1192 00:37:21,773 --> 00:37:23,139 so it turns out, if you guys have ever been to l.A., there's this car lot called 1193 00:37:23,141 --> 00:37:24,641 have ever been to l.A., there's this car lot called dream motors, right on 1194 00:37:24,643 --> 00:37:26,443 this car lot called dream motors, right on la cienega, you know what I 1195 00:37:26,445 --> 00:37:27,010 dream motors, right on la cienega, you know what I mean? 1196 00:37:27,012 --> 00:37:28,545 La cienega, you know what I mean? It's that straightaway coming 1197 00:37:28,547 --> 00:37:29,512 mean? It's that straightaway coming from the airport. 1198 00:37:29,514 --> 00:37:30,547 It's that straightaway coming from the airport. You cat miss it. 1199 00:37:30,549 --> 00:37:32,182 From the airport. You cat miss it. I was standing right there with 1200 00:37:32,184 --> 00:37:33,383 you cat miss it. I was standing right there with my back to the street, 1201 00:37:33,385 --> 00:37:36,152 I was standing right there with my back to the street, baseball cap, shorts, you know. 1202 00:37:36,154 --> 00:37:38,755 My back to the street, baseball cap, shorts, you know. I hear a voice over my shoulder 1203 00:37:38,757 --> 00:37:41,291 baseball cap, shorts, you know. I hear a voice over my shoulder saying, "hey, I love you, keep 1204 00:37:41,293 --> 00:37:42,892 I hear a voice over my shoulder saying, "hey, I love you, keep up the good work. 1205 00:37:42,894 --> 00:37:45,662 Saying, "hey, I love you, keep up the good work. Love what you do." 1206 00:37:45,664 --> 00:37:47,564 up the good work. Love what you do." and I turn around, I was like, 1207 00:37:47,566 --> 00:37:48,131 love what you do." and I turn around, I was like, "me?" 1208 00:37:48,133 --> 00:37:49,766 and I turn around, I was like, "me?" she was like, "yeah, you. 1209 00:37:49,768 --> 00:37:50,700 "me?" she was like, "yeah, you. I love you." 1210 00:37:50,702 --> 00:37:52,402 she was like, "yeah, you. I love you." I said, "I love you, too." 1211 00:37:52,404 --> 00:37:54,104 I love you." I said, "I love you, too." I said, "come and meet me." 1212 00:37:54,106 --> 00:37:56,072 I said, "I love you, too." I said, "come and meet me." [ laughs ] she's not in the lane 1213 00:37:56,074 --> 00:37:57,073 I said, "come and meet me." [ laughs ] she's not in the lane nearest to me. 1214 00:37:57,075 --> 00:37:58,908 [ laughs ] she's not in the lane nearest to me. There's, like, this three-lane 1215 00:37:58,910 --> 00:38:00,877 nearest to me. There's, like, this three-lane thing, so she's probably in that 1216 00:38:00,879 --> 00:38:02,779 there's, like, this three-lane thing, so she's probably in that second or that third lane over. 1217 00:38:02,781 --> 00:38:04,648 Thing, so she's probably in that second or that third lane over. So she got her way and cut off 1218 00:38:04,650 --> 00:38:07,684 second or that third lane over. So she got her way and cut off traffic to come in there, pulls 1219 00:38:07,686 --> 00:38:11,888 so she got her way and cut off traffic to come in there, pulls up, jump out, we speak, 1220 00:38:11,890 --> 00:38:13,256 traffic to come in there, pulls up, jump out, we speak, we exchange numbers. 1221 00:38:13,258 --> 00:38:15,625 Up, jump out, we speak, we exchange numbers. And I know this sounds cliche, 1222 00:38:15,627 --> 00:38:18,128 we exchange numbers. And I know this sounds cliche, but it's the truth -- as soon as 1223 00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:20,330 and I know this sounds cliche, but it's the truth -- as soon as I met her, I saved her in my 1224 00:38:20,332 --> 00:38:22,699 but it's the truth -- as soon as I met her, I saved her in my phone as "shani 'might could 1225 00:38:22,701 --> 00:38:26,670 I met her, I saved her in my phone as "shani 'might could be the one' james." [ laughs ] 1226 00:38:26,672 --> 00:38:29,773 phone as "shani 'might could be the one' james." [ laughs ] I swear -- I swear to god. 1227 00:38:29,775 --> 00:38:34,110 Be the one' james." [ laughs ] I swear -- I swear to god. My son, kingston, is my pride 1228 00:38:34,112 --> 00:38:35,779 I swear -- I swear to god. My son, kingston, is my pride and joy. 1229 00:38:35,781 --> 00:38:38,048 My son, kingston, is my pride and joy. I do find myself in present day, 1230 00:38:38,050 --> 00:38:39,983 and joy. I do find myself in present day, making up for a lot of lost 1231 00:38:39,985 --> 00:38:44,854 I do find myself in present day, making up for a lot of lost time, trying to...Provide, 1232 00:38:44,856 --> 00:38:45,655 making up for a lot of lost time, trying to...Provide, you know? 1233 00:38:45,657 --> 00:38:47,691 Time, trying to...Provide, you know? And success is very demanding, 1234 00:38:47,693 --> 00:38:51,494 you know? And success is very demanding, you know, but so is failure. 1235 00:38:51,496 --> 00:38:54,030 And success is very demanding, you know, but so is failure. And I realized in retrospect 1236 00:38:54,032 --> 00:38:56,366 you know, but so is failure. And I realized in retrospect that, you know, the spoils of 1237 00:38:56,368 --> 00:38:58,935 and I realized in retrospect that, you know, the spoils of success -- you know, materially, 1238 00:38:58,937 --> 00:39:00,837 that, you know, the spoils of success -- you know, materially, monetarily, yes, it doesn't 1239 00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:03,006 success -- you know, materially, monetarily, yes, it doesn't hurt, you know, but one thing it 1240 00:39:03,008 --> 00:39:04,841 monetarily, yes, it doesn't hurt, you know, but one thing it could never replace is the 1241 00:39:04,843 --> 00:39:06,776 hurt, you know, but one thing it could never replace is the tangible time that you spend 1242 00:39:06,778 --> 00:39:07,844 could never replace is the tangible time that you spend with someone. 1243 00:39:07,846 --> 00:39:10,113 Tangible time that you spend with someone. He just recently got his first 1244 00:39:10,115 --> 00:39:12,248 with someone. He just recently got his first apartment about a year or so 1245 00:39:12,250 --> 00:39:12,816 he just recently got his first apartment about a year or so ago. 1246 00:39:12,818 --> 00:39:14,484 Apartment about a year or so ago. You know, I went and bought me 1247 00:39:14,486 --> 00:39:15,919 ago. You know, I went and bought me a little air mattress and 1248 00:39:15,921 --> 00:39:17,454 you know, I went and bought me a little air mattress and dressed out the guest room, 1249 00:39:17,456 --> 00:39:19,255 a little air mattress and dressed out the guest room, just, you know, in case I was in 1250 00:39:19,257 --> 00:39:19,723 dressed out the guest room, just, you know, in case I was in town. 1251 00:39:19,725 --> 00:39:21,224 Just, you know, in case I was in town. Go over there and crash with him 1252 00:39:21,226 --> 00:39:22,225 town. Go over there and crash with him and stuff like that. 1253 00:39:22,227 --> 00:39:23,660 Go over there and crash with him and stuff like that. And you know -- and I was kind 1254 00:39:23,662 --> 00:39:25,095 and stuff like that. And you know -- and I was kind of, like, living out my college 1255 00:39:25,097 --> 00:39:26,563 and you know -- and I was kind of, like, living out my college days, too, because I never went 1256 00:39:26,565 --> 00:39:27,163 of, like, living out my college days, too, because I never went to school. 1257 00:39:27,165 --> 00:39:28,498 Days, too, because I never went to school. Like, I never had that 1258 00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:30,233 to school. Like, I never had that experience for myself, so, you 1259 00:39:30,235 --> 00:39:31,901 like, I never had that experience for myself, so, you know -- you know, being a big 1260 00:39:31,903 --> 00:39:33,536 experience for myself, so, you know -- you know, being a big kid with my son and all that 1261 00:39:33,538 --> 00:39:34,471 know -- you know, being a big kid with my son and all that kind of stuff. 1262 00:39:34,473 --> 00:39:36,806 Kid with my son and all that kind of stuff. So, like, you know, we're closer 1263 00:39:36,808 --> 00:39:39,042 kind of stuff. So, like, you know, we're closer than we've ever been, you know, 1264 00:39:39,044 --> 00:39:39,809 so, like, you know, we're closer than we've ever been, you know, as men. 1265 00:39:39,811 --> 00:39:42,479 Than we've ever been, you know, as men. Sierra, kalah, they're both 1266 00:39:42,481 --> 00:39:45,348 as men. Sierra, kalah, they're both my step-daughters from a former 1267 00:39:45,350 --> 00:39:48,351 sierra, kalah, they're both my step-daughters from a former marriage, and they're like my -- 1268 00:39:48,353 --> 00:39:51,321 my step-daughters from a former marriage, and they're like my -- they're like my daughters, and I 1269 00:39:51,323 --> 00:39:55,191 marriage, and they're like my -- they're like my daughters, and I got them really young. 1270 00:39:55,193 --> 00:39:56,493 They're like my daughters, and I got them really young. Love them. 1271 00:39:56,495 --> 00:39:59,763 Got them really young. Love them. They became adults overnight and 1272 00:39:59,765 --> 00:40:02,732 love them. They became adults overnight and made decisions for themselves 1273 00:40:02,734 --> 00:40:08,838 they became adults overnight and made decisions for themselves that are...Irreversible, you 1274 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,906 made decisions for themselves that are...Irreversible, you know what I'm saying? 1275 00:40:09,908 --> 00:40:11,307 That are...Irreversible, you know what I'm saying? I've told them on a number of 1276 00:40:11,309 --> 00:40:12,709 know what I'm saying? I've told them on a number of different occasions that, you 1277 00:40:12,711 --> 00:40:14,077 I've told them on a number of different occasions that, you know, parenting is not always 1278 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:15,612 different occasions that, you know, parenting is not always about problem-solving, it's also 1279 00:40:15,614 --> 00:40:16,513 know, parenting is not always about problem-solving, it's also about prevention. 1280 00:40:16,515 --> 00:40:18,648 About problem-solving, it's also about prevention. A lot of the things that we go 1281 00:40:18,650 --> 00:40:20,450 about prevention. A lot of the things that we go through, you know, in our 1282 00:40:20,452 --> 00:40:23,486 a lot of the things that we go through, you know, in our domestic lives, you want to see 1283 00:40:23,488 --> 00:40:26,489 through, you know, in our domestic lives, you want to see your kids, you know, avoid some 1284 00:40:26,491 --> 00:40:28,858 domestic lives, you want to see your kids, you know, avoid some of those same pitfalls. 1285 00:40:28,860 --> 00:40:30,894 Your kids, you know, avoid some of those same pitfalls. But as long as they're happy, 1286 00:40:30,896 --> 00:40:32,729 of those same pitfalls. But as long as they're happy, you know what I'm saying? 1287 00:40:32,731 --> 00:40:34,831 But as long as they're happy, you know what I'm saying? And you know, I love all of my 1288 00:40:34,833 --> 00:40:36,266 you know what I'm saying? And you know, I love all of my little grandbabies. 1289 00:40:36,268 --> 00:40:38,735 And you know, I love all of my little grandbabies. True is my big boy. 1290 00:40:38,737 --> 00:40:40,904 Little grandbabies. True is my big boy. You know, true reminds me so 1291 00:40:40,906 --> 00:40:43,339 true is my big boy. You know, true reminds me so much of myself when I was a kid. 1292 00:40:43,341 --> 00:40:45,708 You know, true reminds me so much of myself when I was a kid. I wish nothing but the best for 1293 00:40:45,710 --> 00:40:46,309 much of myself when I was a kid. I wish nothing but the best for him. 1294 00:40:46,311 --> 00:40:50,513 I wish nothing but the best for him. This is sierra's first and only 1295 00:40:50,515 --> 00:40:51,815 him. This is sierra's first and only son. 1296 00:40:51,817 --> 00:40:55,919 This is sierra's first and only son. But kalah, who was my quiet one, 1297 00:40:55,921 --> 00:40:58,154 son. But kalah, who was my quiet one, she ended up being mother nature 1298 00:40:58,156 --> 00:41:00,457 but kalah, who was my quiet one, she ended up being mother nature over there. [ laughs ] 1299 00:41:00,459 --> 00:41:03,626 she ended up being mother nature over there. [ laughs ] she got four little babies now. 1300 00:41:03,628 --> 00:41:05,728 Over there. [ laughs ] she got four little babies now. I got a house full of 1301 00:41:05,730 --> 00:41:08,665 she got four little babies now. I got a house full of grandbabies, so I'm the coolest 1302 00:41:08,667 --> 00:41:09,098 I got a house full of grandbabies, so I'm the coolest grandad you know. 1303 00:41:11,402 --> 00:41:12,902 I'm obedient, you know, and I 1304 00:41:13,037 --> 00:41:16,506 adhere to the will of god and 1305 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,175 what the universe has in store 1306 00:41:19,310 --> 00:41:20,076 for me. 1307 00:41:20,211 --> 00:41:22,078 I'm just always at an earning 1308 00:41:22,213 --> 00:41:23,880 and deserving disposition. 1309 00:41:24,014 --> 00:41:25,482 You know, just trying to be 1310 00:41:25,616 --> 00:41:26,850 the best man, the best 1311 00:41:26,984 --> 00:41:28,551 human being, the best person, 1312 00:41:28,686 --> 00:41:30,086 the best friend, the best 1313 00:41:30,221 --> 00:41:31,888 brother, the best father that I 1314 00:41:32,022 --> 00:41:35,325 can be, you know. 1315 00:41:35,459 --> 00:41:36,960 And perfection is not required, 1316 00:41:37,094 --> 00:41:38,161 you know what I mean? 1317 00:41:38,295 --> 00:41:39,529 Persistence is, so I just 1318 00:41:39,663 --> 00:41:40,129 persist to be these things.