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There's no -- I had no idea
that the weird spinoff
of "the cosby show,"

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that the weird spinoff
of "the cosby show,"
that I thought I'd make,

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of "the cosby show,"
that I thought I'd make,
you know, couple of g's off of

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that I thought I'd make,
you know, couple of g's off of
and then get out to chasing

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you know, couple of g's off of
and then get out to chasing
movie roles would -- turned into

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and then get out to chasing
movie roles would -- turned into
what it turned into

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movie roles would -- turned into
what it turned into
but then still resonate

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what it turned into
but then still resonate
years later.

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But then still resonate
years later.
You know, 30 years later, people

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years later.
You know, 30 years later, people
are still talking about it like

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you know, 30 years later, people
are still talking about it like
I do with my favorite shows,

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are still talking about it like
I do with my favorite shows,
like,

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I do with my favorite shows,
like,
you know, from when I was a kid.

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Like,
you know, from when I was a kid.
Like, I had no idea it could be

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you know, from when I was a kid.
Like, I had no idea it could be
this big, that it would --

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like, I had no idea it could be
this big, that it would --
that it was even big at the time

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this big, that it would --
that it was even big at the time
because they constantly was

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that it was even big at the time
because they constantly was
like, "yeah, no."

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because they constantly was
like, "yeah, no."
we never get nominated for emmys

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like, "yeah, no."
we never get nominated for emmys
or never

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we never get nominated for emmys
or never
any kind of recognition.

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Or never
any kind of recognition.
So I didn't think people really

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any kind of recognition.
So I didn't think people really
cared or --

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so I didn't think people really
cared or --
you know, until later.

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Cared or --
you know, until later.
How would we know?

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You know, until later.
How would we know?
It was -- you know,

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how would we know?
It was -- you know,
it was before the technology

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it was -- you know,
it was before the technology
that would let us know.

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It was before the technology
that would let us know.
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that would let us know.
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I grew up in brooklyn, new york,
raised by my grandmother,
great-grandmother,

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raised by my grandmother,
great-grandmother,
mother, and her best friend,

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great-grandmother,
mother, and her best friend,
who was kind of like my aunt.

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Mother, and her best friend,
who was kind of like my aunt.
So I was prepped at a early age

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who was kind of like my aunt.
So I was prepped at a early age
on knowing how to understand

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so I was prepped at a early age
on knowing how to understand
and coexist with women.

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On knowing how to understand
and coexist with women.
My grandmother made me

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and coexist with women.
My grandmother made me
mayonnaise-and-jelly sandwiches

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my grandmother made me
mayonnaise-and-jelly sandwiches
after school every day.

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Mayonnaise-and-jelly sandwiches
after school every day.
I liked that [bleep]

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after school every day.
I liked that [bleep]
nobody else did.

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I liked that [bleep]
nobody else did.
It was my thing.

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Nobody else did.
It was my thing.
She would make them for me.

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It was my thing.
She would make them for me.
Then, after about 10 years

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she would make them for me.
Then, after about 10 years
of brooklyn, my mother

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then, after about 10 years
of brooklyn, my mother
had finally got it settled,

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of brooklyn, my mother
had finally got it settled,
and she was ready to come

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had finally got it settled,
and she was ready to come
have me live with her.

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And she was ready to come
have me live with her.
I call her nana.

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Have me live with her.
I call her nana.
The darker side is,

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I call her nana.
The darker side is,
you know, she was a bit

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the darker side is,
you know, she was a bit
of an alcoholic, so she drank.

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You know, she was a bit
of an alcoholic, so she drank.
And I was the young kid

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of an alcoholic, so she drank.
And I was the young kid
she sent to the store

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and I was the young kid
she sent to the store
to buy bacardi

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she sent to the store
to buy bacardi
and whatever so she could have

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to buy bacardi
and whatever so she could have
her drink and her cigarettes.

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And whatever so she could have
her drink and her cigarettes.
She liked her cigarettes,

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her drink and her cigarettes.
She liked her cigarettes,
which is why I can't.

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She liked her cigarettes,
which is why I can't.
I don't drink and I don't smoke.

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Which is why I can't.
I don't drink and I don't smoke.
I don't know if it was

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I don't drink and I don't smoke.
I don't know if it was
hard for her.

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I don't know if it was
hard for her.
It wasn't hard for me

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hard for her.
It wasn't hard for me
because I made the call.

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It wasn't hard for me
because I made the call.
At least that's what my mother

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because I made the call.
At least that's what my mother
says.

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At least that's what my mother
says.
And something happened.

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Says.
And something happened.
Either somebody was fighting,

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and something happened.
Either somebody was fighting,
somebody -- something --

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either somebody was fighting,
somebody -- something --
I saw something, I heard

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somebody -- something --
I saw something, I heard
something --

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I saw something, I heard
something --
was something -- something.

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Something --
was something -- something.
But something happened,

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was something -- something.
But something happened,
and it's just, you know,

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but something happened,
and it's just, you know,
but as a kid, you block certain

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and it's just, you know,
but as a kid, you block certain
[bleep] so that you can't -- so

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but as a kid, you block certain
[bleep] so that you can't -- so
they can't get to you no more.

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[bleep] so that you can't -- so
they can't get to you no more.
And something happened,

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they can't get to you no more.
And something happened,
and I called my mother, and I

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and something happened,
and I called my mother, and I
said, "okay, I'm ready to go."

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and I called my mother, and I
said, "okay, I'm ready to go."
and she was like,

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said, "okay, I'm ready to go."
and she was like,
"yeah, but next year,

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and she was like,
"yeah, but next year,
you know, like in the fall,

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"yeah, but next year,
you know, like in the fall,
I'll have the apartment

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you know, like in the fall,
I'll have the apartment
downtown, and we can --"

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I'll have the apartment
downtown, and we can --"
and I was like, "no.

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Downtown, and we can --"
and I was like, "no.
Like, come get me now."

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and I was like, "no.
Like, come get me now."
yeah. My mother and I didn't

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like, come get me now."
yeah. My mother and I didn't
live together until I was 10.

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Yeah. My mother and I didn't
live together until I was 10.
I had a lot of freedom

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live together until I was 10.
I had a lot of freedom
with my grandmother.

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I had a lot of freedom
with my grandmother.
You know, grandmothers,

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with my grandmother.
You know, grandmothers,
they spoil you.

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You know, grandmothers,
they spoil you.
They let you get away

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they spoil you.
They let you get away
with murder,

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they let you get away
with murder,
and they don't charge you.

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With murder,
and they don't charge you.
My mother was different.

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And they don't charge you.
My mother was different.
She was more like --

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my mother was different.
She was more like --
she'll charge you

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she was more like --
she'll charge you
if you get caught.

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She'll charge you
if you get caught.
The beauty of it was,

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if you get caught.
The beauty of it was,
she was so busy modeling

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the beauty of it was,
she was so busy modeling
and working to

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she was so busy modeling
and working to
keep us together

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and working to
keep us together
that I had more freedom.

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Keep us together
that I had more freedom.
In the time that she left me

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that I had more freedom.
In the time that she left me
to my own devices,

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in the time that she left me
to my own devices,
all I did was play act.

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To my own devices,
all I did was play act.
All I did was -- I had toys,

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all I did was play act.
All I did was -- I had toys,
with everything from action

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all I did was -- I had toys,
with everything from action
figures to comic books

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with everything from action
figures to comic books
that I would just read in voices

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figures to comic books
that I would just read in voices
and I would act out scenes

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that I would just read in voices
and I would act out scenes
and I would always and I never

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and I would act out scenes
and I would always and I never
had to be embarrassed about it.

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And I would always and I never
had to be embarrassed about it.
That's what the time

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had to be embarrassed about it.
That's what the time
and the distance did.

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That's what the time
and the distance did.
I just got more freedom to --

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and the distance did.
I just got more freedom to --
to be wilder with it.

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I just got more freedom to --
to be wilder with it.
My mother was like, "what do

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to be wilder with it.
My mother was like, "what do
you want to do

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my mother was like, "what do
you want to do
when you grow up?"

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you want to do
when you grow up?"
I had to get her off my back.

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When you grow up?"
I had to get her off my back.
I said, "I want to be

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I had to get her off my back.
I said, "I want to be
spider-man."

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I said, "I want to be
spider-man."
she was like, "okay, and you

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spider-man."
she was like, "okay, and you
want to be spider-man or you

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she was like, "okay, and you
want to be spider-man or you
want to draw spider-man?"

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want to be spider-man or you
want to draw spider-man?"
"I want to draw spider-man."

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want to draw spider-man?"
"I want to draw spider-man."
she said, "all right."

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"I want to draw spider-man."
she said, "all right."
years later, as soon as we got

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she said, "all right."
years later, as soon as we got
together, we started living

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years later, as soon as we got
together, we started living
together, she remembered.

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Together, we started living
together, she remembered.
She sent me off to the

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together, she remembered.
She sent me off to the
art students league.

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She sent me off to the
art students league.
It didn't take long before

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art students league.
It didn't take long before
I realized

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it didn't take long before
I realized
that I was not going to be

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I realized
that I was not going to be
the best artist in the class.

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That I was not going to be
the best artist in the class.
So I said, "I want to --

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the best artist in the class.
So I said, "I want to --
I want to be spider-man.

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So I said, "I want to --
I want to be spider-man.
How about that?

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I want to be spider-man.
How about that?
Make that happen."

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how about that?
Make that happen."
and then she started sending me

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make that happen."
and then she started sending me
to acting school.

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And then she started sending me
to acting school.
Michael ralph, who you all know

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to acting school.
Michael ralph, who you all know
from "a different world,"

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michael ralph, who you all know
from "a different world,"
he was in the class with me,

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from "a different world,"
he was in the class with me,
and he was the top dog

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he was in the class with me,
and he was the top dog
in the class.

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And he was the top dog
in the class.
Like, when I went to art school,

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in the class.
Like, when I went to art school,
I knew that there was these kids

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like, when I went to art school,
I knew that there was these kids
that were just the top

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I knew that there was these kids
that were just the top
of the class.

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That were just the top
of the class.
Mike ralph was the coolest dude

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of the class.
Mike ralph was the coolest dude
in acting class, and I was just

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mike ralph was the coolest dude
in acting class, and I was just
the little chubby kid

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in acting class, and I was just
the little chubby kid
who just kind of looked at him

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the little chubby kid
who just kind of looked at him
and marveled at him.

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Who just kind of looked at him
and marveled at him.
Yeah. So, spent a good year

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and marveled at him.
Yeah. So, spent a good year
or so doing amas,

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yeah. So, spent a good year
or so doing amas,
eubie blake's children's

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or so doing amas,
eubie blake's children's
theater, and --

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eubie blake's children's
theater, and --
and then, I think

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theater, and --
and then, I think
I started looking for auditions.

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And then, I think
I started looking for auditions.
I think I might have been 14

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I started looking for auditions.
I think I might have been 14
or something like that.

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I think I might have been 14
or something like that.
13 or 14, and it was time

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or something like that.
13 or 14, and it was time
to start really getting serious.

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13 or 14, and it was time
to start really getting serious.
And moms was like, "okay.

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To start really getting serious.
And moms was like, "okay.
We got to get you some money,

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and moms was like, "okay.
We got to get you some money,
so you're gonna have to get a

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we got to get you some money,
so you're gonna have to get a
little jobby job, and you got to

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so you're gonna have to get a
little jobby job, and you got to
get some headshots.

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Little jobby job, and you got to
get some headshots.
And I knew she was friends

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get some headshots.
And I knew she was friends
with a director.

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And I knew she was friends
with a director.
And I'd always ask, "yo,

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with a director.
And I'd always ask, "yo,
give me a part, give me a part."

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and I'd always ask, "yo,
give me a part, give me a part."
he's like, "I'm not gonna give

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give me a part, give me a part."
he's like, "I'm not gonna give
you nothing.

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He's like, "I'm not gonna give
you nothing.
You can come and audition

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you nothing.
You can come and audition
for a part."

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you can come and audition
for a part."
and that was how

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for a part."
and that was how
I got my first one,

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and that was how
I got my first one,
"the color of friendship."

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I got my first one,
"the color of friendship."
but I got a call

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"the color of friendship."
but I got a call
to come in and read,

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but I got a call
to come in and read,
and I booked a job.

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To come in and read,
and I booked a job.
I only had one line.

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And I booked a job.
I only had one line.
I was boy number 1.

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I only had one line.
I was boy number 1.
My father was very proud

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I was boy number 1.
My father was very proud
because my one line

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my father was very proud
because my one line
was, "what you white boys

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because my one line
was, "what you white boys
doing in my neighborhood?"

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was, "what you white boys
doing in my neighborhood?"
♪

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doing in my neighborhood?"
♪
my mother is a fighter,

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♪
my mother is a fighter,
a go-getter,

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my mother is a fighter,
a go-getter,
a revolutionary,

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a go-getter,
a revolutionary,
a badass.

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A revolutionary,
a badass.
My father's laid-back.

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A badass.
My father's laid-back.
He's cool.

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My father's laid-back.
He's cool.
Doesn't seem like he worries

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he's cool.
Doesn't seem like he worries
about anything.

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Doesn't seem like he worries
about anything.
If you -- if you -- if you don't

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about anything.
If you -- if you -- if you don't
talk to him for six months,

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if you -- if you -- if you don't
talk to him for six months,
a year, the next time you talk

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talk to him for six months,
a year, the next time you talk
to him, it's like you talked

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a year, the next time you talk
to him, it's like you talked
to him yesterday.

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To him, it's like you talked
to him yesterday.
And he was the one that told me.

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To him yesterday.
And he was the one that told me.
He came to visit

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and he was the one that told me.
He came to visit
l.A. Like once or twice,

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he came to visit
l.A. Like once or twice,
and we were standing out there

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l.A. Like once or twice,
and we were standing out there
just waiting to get in the car,

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and we were standing out there
just waiting to get in the car,
waiting for some people to come

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just waiting to get in the car,
waiting for some people to come
up, and he said, "man,

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waiting for some people to come
up, and he said, "man,
I don't know how you made it

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up, and he said, "man,
I don't know how you made it
out of there.

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I don't know how you made it
out of there.
I said, "what do you mean?"

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out of there.
I said, "what do you mean?"
he said, "out of brooklyn,

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I said, "what do you mean?"
he said, "out of brooklyn,
out of that house."

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he said, "out of brooklyn,
out of that house."
I said, "what are you talking

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out of that house."
I said, "what are you talking
about?"

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I said, "what are you talking
about?"
he said, "well, you were raised

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about?"
he said, "well, you were raised
by alcoholics."

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he said, "well, you were raised
by alcoholics."
I got it, but -- but I never

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by alcoholics."
I got it, but -- but I never
heard it out loud

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I got it, but -- but I never
heard it out loud
like that before.

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Heard it out loud
like that before.
For nana, the hardest part

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like that before.
For nana, the hardest part
was when she passed because

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for nana, the hardest part
was when she passed because
I'd --

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was when she passed because
I'd --
like -- like, her and my

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I'd --
like -- like, her and my
great-grandmother,

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like -- like, her and my
great-grandmother,
they nicknamed me sammy

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great-grandmother,
they nicknamed me sammy
because they thought I was gonna

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they nicknamed me sammy
because they thought I was gonna
be like sammy davis jr.,

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because they thought I was gonna
be like sammy davis jr.,
who was their guy, you know,

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be like sammy davis jr.,
who was their guy, you know,
at the time, their generation.

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Who was their guy, you know,
at the time, their generation.
So they never called me

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at the time, their generation.
So they never called me
by my name.

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So they never called me
by my name.
They just call me sammy.

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By my name.
They just call me sammy.
But the hardest part for me

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they just call me sammy.
But the hardest part for me
was that she never got to see

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but the hardest part for me
was that she never got to see
"a different world,"

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was that she never got to see
"a different world,"
like, where it really

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"a different world,"
like, where it really
kind of blew up.

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Like, where it really
kind of blew up.
She never got to see it

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kind of blew up.
She never got to see it
come -- you know,

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she never got to see it
come -- you know,
to see it all come to fruition.

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Come -- you know,
to see it all come to fruition.
And then it really messed up

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to see it all come to fruition.
And then it really messed up
how I dealt with death,

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and then it really messed up
how I dealt with death,
I think, to this day.

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How I dealt with death,
I think, to this day.
Because what I couldn't

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I think, to this day.
Because what I couldn't
hear was,

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because what I couldn't
hear was,
"I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry."

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hear was,
"I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry."
like, I didn't -- I couldn't

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"I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry."
like, I didn't -- I couldn't
accept that comforting.

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Like, I didn't -- I couldn't
accept that comforting.
I didn't want to hear it

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accept that comforting.
I didn't want to hear it
because, as a kid,

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I didn't want to hear it
because, as a kid,
"you didn't know her,

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because, as a kid,
"you didn't know her,
you didn't --

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"you didn't know her,
you didn't --
you didn't do what we did.

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You didn't --
you didn't do what we did.
So back the [bleep] up."

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you didn't do what we did.
So back the [bleep] up."
that was my attitude at...17.

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So back the [bleep] up."
that was my attitude at...17.
I think she died when I was 17.

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That was my attitude at...17.
I think she died when I was 17.
So I really -- it -- it's --

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I think she died when I was 17.
So I really -- it -- it's --
it's -- it's put me in

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so I really -- it -- it's --
it's -- it's put me in
a really weird spot

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it's -- it's put me in
a really weird spot
when trying to deal with others

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a really weird spot
when trying to deal with others
when they lose someone.

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When trying to deal with others
when they lose someone.
I get quiet, and I back away.

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When they lose someone.
I get quiet, and I back away.
And then, way later,

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I get quiet, and I back away.
And then, way later,
maybe I'll come and ask,

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and then, way later,
maybe I'll come and ask,
"how you doing?"

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maybe I'll come and ask,
"how you doing?"
but I won't bring up the loss.

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"how you doing?"
but I won't bring up the loss.
It doesn't --

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but I won't bring up the loss.
It doesn't --
it takes me right back

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it doesn't --
it takes me right back
to [bleep] brooklyn

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it takes me right back
to [bleep] brooklyn
and in that funeral parlor

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to [bleep] brooklyn
and in that funeral parlor
that was right next

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and in that funeral parlor
that was right next
to the [bleep] liquor store

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that was right next
to the [bleep] liquor store
that I had to buy the booze at.

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To the [bleep] liquor store
that I had to buy the booze at.
So I couldn't, uh...

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That I had to buy the booze at.
So I couldn't, uh...
I couldn't make that --

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so I couldn't, uh...
I couldn't make that --
I can't make that leap.

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>> hardison: Fame, to me,
was a -- was a bit of a trick
bag.

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Was a -- was a bit of a trick
bag.
Like, I was lucky enough to go

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bag.
Like, I was lucky enough to go
and do a guest spot on "cosby"

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like, I was lucky enough to go
and do a guest spot on "cosby"
when it was the hottest thing.

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And do a guest spot on "cosby"
when it was the hottest thing.
And everybody was in love

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when it was the hottest thing.
And everybody was in love
with lisa bonet.

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And everybody was in love
with lisa bonet.
And I couldn't wait to sit down

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with lisa bonet.
And I couldn't wait to sit down
and talk to her

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and I couldn't wait to sit down
and talk to her
about this white-hot light

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and talk to her
about this white-hot light
that was on them all the time.

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About this white-hot light
that was on them all the time.
We're sitting at lunch one day,

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that was on them all the time.
We're sitting at lunch one day,
and not to know that,

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we're sitting at lunch one day,
and not to know that,
years later, we'd end up

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and not to know that,
years later, we'd end up
on the show together.

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Years later, we'd end up
on the show together.
But I asked her, I said,

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on the show together.
But I asked her, I said,
"how do you deal with it?"

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but I asked her, I said,
"how do you deal with it?"
she said, "well, I used to go

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"how do you deal with it?"
she said, "well, I used to go
to the mall and, you know,

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she said, "well, I used to go
to the mall and, you know,
hang out with my friends, and

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to the mall and, you know,
hang out with my friends, and
now I don't go to the mall so

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hang out with my friends, and
now I don't go to the mall so
much."

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now I don't go to the mall so
much."
so it kind of prepared me

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much."
so it kind of prepared me
a little bit that, "yeah.

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So it kind of prepared me
a little bit that, "yeah.
Once your anonymity is taken

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a little bit that, "yeah.
Once your anonymity is taken
away, it's something you can't

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once your anonymity is taken
away, it's something you can't
get back."

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away, it's something you can't
get back."
and so I was really kind of

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get back."
and so I was really kind of
hoping that however I made it

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and so I was really kind of
hoping that however I made it
to wherever

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hoping that however I made it
to wherever
I was planning to go,

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to wherever
I was planning to go,
that I kept some of that.

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♪
>> hardison: With spike,
there was no audition.

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>> hardison: With spike,
there was no audition.
Spike was the best

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there was no audition.
Spike was the best
and the weirdest casting

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spike was the best
and the weirdest casting
process of all time.

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And the weirdest casting
process of all time.
The first time I'm going to

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process of all time.
The first time I'm going to
start working, we do rehearsals,

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the first time I'm going to
start working, we do rehearsals,
we rehearse for about two weeks,

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start working, we do rehearsals,
we rehearse for about two weeks,
and then the money falls out,

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we rehearse for about two weeks,
and then the money falls out,
and we never get to do this

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and then the money falls out,
and we never get to do this
project.

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And we never get to do this
project.
Couple years later,

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project.
Couple years later,
I get a call from spike

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couple years later,
I get a call from spike
before "a different world,"

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I get a call from spike
before "a different world,"
saying, "kadeem -- spike.

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Before "a different world,"
saying, "kadeem -- spike.
'school daze,' edge.

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Saying, "kadeem -- spike.
'school daze,' edge.
You down?"

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'school daze,' edge.
You down?"
there was no, really, --

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you down?"
there was no, really, --
there wasn't even a sentence.

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There was no, really, --
there wasn't even a sentence.
I was like, "yeah!

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There wasn't even a sentence.
I was like, "yeah!
[bleep] yeah, I'm down.

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I was like, "yeah!
[bleep] yeah, I'm down.
Let's go."

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[bleep] yeah, I'm down.
Let's go."
said, "a'ight.

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Let's go."
said, "a'ight.
Going down to homecoming."

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said, "a'ight.
Going down to homecoming."
I don't even know

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going down to homecoming."
I don't even know
what homecoming is.

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I don't even know
what homecoming is.
"okay. I'm down."

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what homecoming is.
"okay. I'm down."
so we go, and we do

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"okay. I'm down."
so we go, and we do
"school daze."

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so we go, and we do
"school daze."
after I finished "school daze,"

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"school daze."
after I finished "school daze,"
I go to california to visit

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after I finished "school daze,"
I go to california to visit
some friends.

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I go to california to visit
some friends.
And while I'm there, lisa bonet

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some friends.
And while I'm there, lisa bonet
is doing a spinoff

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and while I'm there, lisa bonet
is doing a spinoff
of "the cosby show."

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is doing a spinoff
of "the cosby show."
I was like, "oh, snap."

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of "the cosby show."
I was like, "oh, snap."
so I wanted to go see her.

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I was like, "oh, snap."
so I wanted to go see her.
I wanted to go visit and

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so I wanted to go see her.
I wanted to go visit and
support.

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I wanted to go visit and
support.
So I get over there, and we

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support.
So I get over there, and we
watch a taping of the show,

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so I get over there, and we
watch a taping of the show,
and it was long,

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watch a taping of the show,
and it was long,
and it wasn't that funny.

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And it was long,
and it wasn't that funny.
So I'm thinking,

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and it wasn't that funny.
So I'm thinking,
"that's not gonna last."

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so I'm thinking,
"that's not gonna last."
and then, a week or so later,

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00:11:44,071 --> 00:11:45,170
"that's not gonna last."
and then, a week or so later,
I get a call, saying, "they're

364
00:11:45,172 --> 00:11:47,005
and then, a week or so later,
I get a call, saying, "they're
looking for some new characters

365
00:11:47,007 --> 00:11:49,040
I get a call, saying, "they're
looking for some new characters
for this "cosby" spinoff.

366
00:11:49,042 --> 00:11:52,177
Looking for some new characters
for this "cosby" spinoff.
And I was like, "I bet they are.

367
00:11:52,179 --> 00:11:53,912
For this "cosby" spinoff.
And I was like, "I bet they are.
It needs something over there."

368
00:11:53,914 --> 00:11:55,146
and I was like, "I bet they are.
It needs something over there."
and they was like, "you be

369
00:11:55,148 --> 00:11:56,514
it needs something over there."
and they was like, "you be
interested?"

370
00:11:56,516 --> 00:11:57,582
and they was like, "you be
interested?"
and at this point,

371
00:11:57,584 --> 00:11:59,818
interested?"
and at this point,
having just done "school daze,"

372
00:11:59,820 --> 00:12:01,119
and at this point,
having just done "school daze,"
I was on my movie [bleep]

373
00:12:01,121 --> 00:12:02,220
having just done "school daze,"
I was on my movie [bleep]
I wanted to be -- I wanted to do

374
00:12:02,222 --> 00:12:03,154
I was on my movie [bleep]
I wanted to be -- I wanted to do
films.

375
00:12:03,156 --> 00:12:05,757
I wanted to be -- I wanted to do
films.
So I wasn't really interested,

376
00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:07,325
films.
So I wasn't really interested,
but I thought,

377
00:12:07,327 --> 00:12:08,460
so I wasn't really interested,
but I thought,
"it'll be over soon.

378
00:12:08,462 --> 00:12:10,095
But I thought,
"it'll be over soon.
It'll probably get canceled."

379
00:12:10,097 --> 00:12:12,263
"it'll be over soon.
It'll probably get canceled."
so I go in, and I get the call

380
00:12:12,265 --> 00:12:14,099
it'll probably get canceled."
so I go in, and I get the call
to get -- to go to my first

381
00:12:14,101 --> 00:12:16,468
so I go in, and I get the call
to get -- to go to my first
audition, and I go in.

382
00:12:16,470 --> 00:12:19,037
To get -- to go to my first
audition, and I go in.
Pretty easy. Bang boom.

383
00:12:19,039 --> 00:12:21,139
Audition, and I go in.
Pretty easy. Bang boom.
And then I got called in

384
00:12:21,141 --> 00:12:21,740
pretty easy. Bang boom.
And then I got called in
it seemed like

385
00:12:21,742 --> 00:12:24,075
and then I got called in
it seemed like
for the final time.

386
00:12:24,077 --> 00:12:25,643
It seemed like
for the final time.
It was a room full of people.

387
00:12:25,645 --> 00:12:28,446
For the final time.
It was a room full of people.
It had to be maybe 30 people.

388
00:12:28,448 --> 00:12:29,180
It was a room full of people.
It had to be maybe 30 people.
And all of a sudden,

389
00:12:29,182 --> 00:12:30,615
it had to be maybe 30 people.
And all of a sudden,
I got a little nervous, and to

390
00:12:30,617 --> 00:12:33,618
and all of a sudden,
I got a little nervous, and to
get that off of me,

391
00:12:33,620 --> 00:12:36,154
I got a little nervous, and to
get that off of me,
I decided, on the spot,

392
00:12:36,156 --> 00:12:37,322
get that off of me,
I decided, on the spot,
to break the ice.

393
00:12:37,324 --> 00:12:38,757
I decided, on the spot,
to break the ice.
And I said, "how you doing?

394
00:12:38,759 --> 00:12:40,091
To break the ice.
And I said, "how you doing?
I'm kadeem," and then,

395
00:12:40,093 --> 00:12:41,793
and I said, "how you doing?
I'm kadeem," and then,
they would say their name.

396
00:12:41,795 --> 00:12:43,661
I'm kadeem," and then,
they would say their name.
And then I'd go around

397
00:12:43,663 --> 00:12:46,097
they would say their name.
And then I'd go around
to every person.

398
00:12:46,099 --> 00:12:46,698
And then I'd go around
to every person.
And then when I got

399
00:12:46,700 --> 00:12:48,166
to every person.
And then when I got
to the last person,

400
00:12:48,168 --> 00:12:49,367
and then when I got
to the last person,
I said their name,

401
00:12:49,369 --> 00:12:50,802
to the last person,
I said their name,
and then I went backwards

402
00:12:50,804 --> 00:12:52,303
I said their name,
and then I went backwards
saying all the names

403
00:12:52,305 --> 00:12:53,838
and then I went backwards
saying all the names
that I had just heard.

404
00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,206
Saying all the names
that I had just heard.
And about the halfway point,

405
00:12:55,208 --> 00:12:56,341
that I had just heard.
And about the halfway point,
you could feel them kind of

406
00:12:56,343 --> 00:12:57,475
and about the halfway point,
you could feel them kind of
start to go -- [ gasps ] --

407
00:12:57,477 --> 00:12:58,376
you could feel them kind of
start to go -- [ gasps ] --
"is he gonna make it?

408
00:12:58,378 --> 00:12:59,244
Start to go -- [ gasps ] --
"is he gonna make it?
Is he gonna make it?

409
00:12:59,246 --> 00:13:01,479
"is he gonna make it?
Is he gonna make it?
Oh, my god."

410
00:13:01,481 --> 00:13:03,648
is he gonna make it?
Oh, my god."
and then I got to the last one,

411
00:13:03,650 --> 00:13:06,651
oh, my god."
and then I got to the last one,
and I said, "and jason."

412
00:13:06,653 --> 00:13:08,219
and then I got to the last one,
and I said, "and jason."
and they erupted

413
00:13:08,221 --> 00:13:09,220
and I said, "and jason."
and they erupted
and started clapping.

414
00:13:09,222 --> 00:13:09,821
And they erupted
and started clapping.
And I was like,

415
00:13:09,823 --> 00:13:11,022
and started clapping.
And I was like,
"all right, thanks, everybody!"

416
00:13:11,024 --> 00:13:11,990
and I was like,
"all right, thanks, everybody!"
and I turned to leave,

417
00:13:11,992 --> 00:13:12,724
"all right, thanks, everybody!"
and I turned to leave,
and they was like,

418
00:13:12,726 --> 00:13:13,725
and I turned to leave,
and they was like,
"no, no, you got to audition!"

419
00:13:13,727 --> 00:13:14,659
and they was like,
"no, no, you got to audition!"
I was like, "all right.

420
00:13:14,661 --> 00:13:15,326
"no, no, you got to audition!"
I was like, "all right.
Let's do this --

421
00:13:15,328 --> 00:13:16,594
I was like, "all right.
Let's do this --
oh, that's the easy part."

422
00:13:16,596 --> 00:13:17,962
let's do this --
oh, that's the easy part."
and I did the audition, and they

423
00:13:17,964 --> 00:13:20,198
oh, that's the easy part."
and I did the audition, and they
cracked up, and that was it.

424
00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,366
And I did the audition, and they
cracked up, and that was it.
That's how I got the job.

425
00:13:21,368 --> 00:13:23,601
Cracked up, and that was it.
That's how I got the job.
That was my last audition,

426
00:13:23,603 --> 00:13:27,071
that's how I got the job.
That was my last audition,
and that's how I got the job.

427
00:13:27,073 --> 00:13:27,906
That was my last audition,
and that's how I got the job.
Monday morning,

428
00:13:27,908 --> 00:13:28,840
and that's how I got the job.
Monday morning,
jasmine auditioned.

429
00:13:28,842 --> 00:13:30,875
Monday morning,
jasmine auditioned.
She does her final audition,

430
00:13:30,877 --> 00:13:31,676
jasmine auditioned.
She does her final audition,
and then we're all

431
00:13:31,678 --> 00:13:32,811
she does her final audition,
and then we're all
in the table read,

432
00:13:32,813 --> 00:13:35,013
and then we're all
in the table read,
waiting to read the script.

433
00:13:35,015 --> 00:13:38,016
In the table read,
waiting to read the script.
And then she comes in the door

434
00:13:38,018 --> 00:13:39,651
waiting to read the script.
And then she comes in the door
as whitley.

435
00:13:39,653 --> 00:13:40,819
And then she comes in the door
as whitley.
And I was like --

436
00:13:40,821 --> 00:13:42,086
as whitley.
And I was like --
I know her from "school daze."

437
00:13:42,088 --> 00:13:45,857
and I was like --
I know her from "school daze."
I was like, "oh, wow.

438
00:13:45,859 --> 00:13:47,525
I know her from "school daze."
I was like, "oh, wow.
This is gonna be good.

439
00:13:47,527 --> 00:13:51,496
I was like, "oh, wow.
This is gonna be good.
This is gonna be good."

440
00:13:51,498 --> 00:13:53,865
this is gonna be good.
This is gonna be good."
the first season was --

441
00:13:53,867 --> 00:13:55,033
this is gonna be good."
the first season was --
you know, I like to say we could

442
00:13:55,035 --> 00:13:56,034
the first season was --
you know, I like to say we could
have been white kids from

443
00:13:56,036 --> 00:13:58,536
you know, I like to say we could
have been white kids from
kansas.

444
00:13:58,538 --> 00:14:03,041
Have been white kids from
kansas.
It wasn't true to an hbcu

445
00:14:03,043 --> 00:14:07,145
kansas.
It wasn't true to an hbcu
and what's going on there.

446
00:14:07,147 --> 00:14:09,113
It wasn't true to an hbcu
and what's going on there.
We were just kind of, you know,

447
00:14:09,115 --> 00:14:10,148
and what's going on there.
We were just kind of, you know,
doing basic stuff,

448
00:14:10,150 --> 00:14:13,751
we were just kind of, you know,
doing basic stuff,
which was cool as a sitcom,

449
00:14:13,753 --> 00:14:15,253
doing basic stuff,
which was cool as a sitcom,
but it just -- it didn't feel

450
00:14:15,255 --> 00:14:18,022
which was cool as a sitcom,
but it just -- it didn't feel
important.

451
00:14:18,024 --> 00:14:19,858
But it just -- it didn't feel
important.
There were definite camps.

452
00:14:19,860 --> 00:14:21,426
Important.
There were definite camps.
There was the writers camp,

453
00:14:21,428 --> 00:14:23,528
there were definite camps.
There was the writers camp,
and there was the actors camp.

454
00:14:23,530 --> 00:14:24,429
There was the writers camp,
and there was the actors camp.
And as actors,

455
00:14:24,431 --> 00:14:27,498
and there was the actors camp.
And as actors,
we'd get the script and be like,

456
00:14:27,500 --> 00:14:29,534
and as actors,
we'd get the script and be like,
"so that's it, huh?

457
00:14:29,536 --> 00:14:30,702
We'd get the script and be like,
"so that's it, huh?
All right, let's go do it.

458
00:14:30,704 --> 00:14:35,073
"so that's it, huh?
All right, let's go do it.
Let's go turn water into wine."

459
00:14:35,075 --> 00:14:36,107
all right, let's go do it.
Let's go turn water into wine."
and from the writers'

460
00:14:36,109 --> 00:14:37,275
let's go turn water into wine."
and from the writers'
standpoint, it was like,

461
00:14:37,277 --> 00:14:39,043
and from the writers'
standpoint, it was like,
"come on.

462
00:14:39,045 --> 00:14:40,645
Standpoint, it was like,
"come on.
Give it something.

463
00:14:40,647 --> 00:14:43,915
"come on.
Give it something.
Act [bleep]"

464
00:14:43,917 --> 00:14:47,352
give it something.
Act [bleep]"
so, second season, mr. Cosby

465
00:14:47,354 --> 00:14:48,519
act [bleep]"
so, second season, mr. Cosby
stepped in and was like,

466
00:14:48,521 --> 00:14:50,288
so, second season, mr. Cosby
stepped in and was like,
"yeah, we got to clean house.

467
00:14:50,290 --> 00:14:52,290
Stepped in and was like,
"yeah, we got to clean house.
Everybody that was there first

468
00:14:52,292 --> 00:14:54,592
"yeah, we got to clean house.
Everybody that was there first
season, y'all gotta go."

469
00:14:54,594 --> 00:14:57,562
everybody that was there first
season, y'all gotta go."
and debbie came in

470
00:14:57,564 --> 00:14:59,097
season, y'all gotta go."
and debbie came in
and started cleaning.

471
00:14:59,099 --> 00:15:00,565
And debbie came in
and started cleaning.
I think the first thing she did

472
00:15:00,567 --> 00:15:02,433
and started cleaning.
I think the first thing she did
was she started casting.

473
00:15:02,435 --> 00:15:04,102
I think the first thing she did
was she started casting.
She started recasting.

474
00:15:04,104 --> 00:15:06,437
Was she started casting.
She started recasting.
And one of the casualties

475
00:15:06,439 --> 00:15:11,209
she started recasting.
And one of the casualties
of it were marisa tomei,

476
00:15:11,211 --> 00:15:13,311
and one of the casualties
of it were marisa tomei,
who I loved,

477
00:15:13,313 --> 00:15:16,447
of it were marisa tomei,
who I loved,
and marie-alise recasner.

478
00:15:16,449 --> 00:15:17,882
Who I loved,
and marie-alise recasner.
Marisa and I, in the first

479
00:15:17,884 --> 00:15:20,285
and marie-alise recasner.
Marisa and I, in the first
season, you know, just to stay

480
00:15:20,287 --> 00:15:22,520
marisa and I, in the first
season, you know, just to stay
alive, we were like,

481
00:15:22,522 --> 00:15:23,554
season, you know, just to stay
alive, we were like,
"why don't we have our

482
00:15:23,556 --> 00:15:24,689
alive, we were like,
"why don't we have our
characters get together?

483
00:15:24,691 --> 00:15:26,024
"why don't we have our
characters get together?
Like, it seems like

484
00:15:26,026 --> 00:15:27,292
characters get together?
Like, it seems like
nobody sees this guy

485
00:15:27,294 --> 00:15:29,560
like, it seems like
nobody sees this guy
and nobody sees this girl.

486
00:15:29,562 --> 00:15:31,262
Nobody sees this guy
and nobody sees this girl.
Why don't they see each other?"

487
00:15:31,264 --> 00:15:32,830
and nobody sees this girl.
Why don't they see each other?"
and we took it to the producers,

488
00:15:32,832 --> 00:15:34,332
why don't they see each other?"
and we took it to the producers,
and they were like,

489
00:15:34,334 --> 00:15:36,567
and we took it to the producers,
and they were like,
"no, not gonna do that."

490
00:15:36,569 --> 00:15:38,269
and they were like,
"no, not gonna do that."
I don't think interracial

491
00:15:38,271 --> 00:15:41,072
"no, not gonna do that."
I don't think interracial
was where they were ready to go.

492
00:15:41,074 --> 00:15:41,706
I don't think interracial
was where they were ready to go.
I think maybe

493
00:15:41,708 --> 00:15:44,309
was where they were ready to go.
I think maybe
they were intimidated

494
00:15:44,311 --> 00:15:46,277
I think maybe
they were intimidated
or, you know, maybe the network

495
00:15:46,279 --> 00:15:47,845
they were intimidated
or, you know, maybe the network
said, "unh-unh, we're not ready.

496
00:15:47,847 --> 00:15:48,746
Or, you know, maybe the network
said, "unh-unh, we're not ready.
We're not doing that yet."

497
00:15:48,748 --> 00:15:50,448
said, "unh-unh, we're not ready.
We're not doing that yet."
who knows? It was obvious to us.

498
00:15:50,450 --> 00:15:52,817
We're not doing that yet."
who knows? It was obvious to us.
It wasn't obvious to them.

499
00:15:52,819 --> 00:15:54,786
Who knows? It was obvious to us.
It wasn't obvious to them.
So I think debbie was like,

500
00:15:54,788 --> 00:15:55,887
it wasn't obvious to them.
So I think debbie was like,
"look, if we're not gonna

501
00:15:55,889 --> 00:15:57,221
so I think debbie was like,
"look, if we're not gonna
explore why this girl, this

502
00:15:57,223 --> 00:15:58,723
"look, if we're not gonna
explore why this girl, this
white girl, is enrolled in this

503
00:15:58,725 --> 00:16:01,059
explore why this girl, this
white girl, is enrolled in this
hbcu, then what are we doing

504
00:16:01,061 --> 00:16:01,626
white girl, is enrolled in this
hbcu, then what are we doing
with her?

505
00:16:01,628 --> 00:16:02,360
Hbcu, then what are we doing
with her?
Can we do it?

506
00:16:02,362 --> 00:16:03,628
With her?
Can we do it?
I'd love to keep her," but when

507
00:16:03,630 --> 00:16:05,430
can we do it?
I'd love to keep her," but when
they said no, she's like,

508
00:16:05,432 --> 00:16:06,531
I'd love to keep her," but when
they said no, she's like,
"well, then what is she doing

509
00:16:06,533 --> 00:16:06,898
they said no, she's like,
"well, then what is she doing
here?

510
00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:08,199
"well, then what is she doing
here?
Let me get somebody in here that

511
00:16:08,201 --> 00:16:09,767
here?
Let me get somebody in here that
can -- I can do something with."

512
00:16:09,769 --> 00:16:11,602
let me get somebody in here that
can -- I can do something with."
and I think that's where

513
00:16:11,604 --> 00:16:13,705
can -- I can do something with."
and I think that's where
freddie was born.

514
00:16:13,707 --> 00:16:16,541
And I think that's where
freddie was born.
And then the hairstyles changed.

515
00:16:16,543 --> 00:16:17,608
Freddie was born.
And then the hairstyles changed.
The way we were

516
00:16:17,610 --> 00:16:21,913
and then the hairstyles changed.
The way we were
dressing changed.

517
00:16:21,915 --> 00:16:24,749
The way we were
dressing changed.
Castmates changed.

518
00:16:24,751 --> 00:16:26,417
Dressing changed.
Castmates changed.
It all started to feel like

519
00:16:26,419 --> 00:16:28,786
castmates changed.
It all started to feel like
things we were talking about.

520
00:16:28,788 --> 00:16:30,688
It all started to feel like
things we were talking about.
They invented the pit,

521
00:16:30,690 --> 00:16:32,123
things we were talking about.
They invented the pit,
a place for us to go and eat,

522
00:16:32,125 --> 00:16:33,524
they invented the pit,
a place for us to go and eat,
where the character of

523
00:16:33,526 --> 00:16:37,595
a place for us to go and eat,
where the character of
mr. Gaines was a real person.

524
00:16:37,597 --> 00:16:39,230
Where the character of
mr. Gaines was a real person.
Yeah, she just gave it --

525
00:16:39,232 --> 00:16:40,932
mr. Gaines was a real person.
Yeah, she just gave it --
she gave -- she gave life

526
00:16:40,934 --> 00:16:42,333
yeah, she just gave it --
she gave -- she gave life
in these areas that were

527
00:16:42,335 --> 00:16:44,869
she gave -- she gave life
in these areas that were
dormant.

528
00:16:44,871 --> 00:16:46,971
In these areas that were
dormant.
I remember the first time

529
00:16:46,973 --> 00:16:48,873
dormant.
I remember the first time
I kind of knew that the audience

530
00:16:48,875 --> 00:16:50,308
I remember the first time
I kind of knew that the audience
was really

531
00:16:50,310 --> 00:16:53,544
I kind of knew that the audience
was really
watching me was first season,

532
00:16:53,546 --> 00:16:54,145
was really
watching me was first season,
and it was the

533
00:16:54,147 --> 00:16:56,114
watching me was first season,
and it was the
pig-nose episode.

534
00:16:56,116 --> 00:16:57,448
And it was the
pig-nose episode.
And denise is trying to date

535
00:16:57,450 --> 00:16:59,317
pig-nose episode.
And denise is trying to date
this really pretty boy,

536
00:16:59,319 --> 00:17:00,184
and denise is trying to date
this really pretty boy,
and he decides

537
00:17:00,186 --> 00:17:01,519
this really pretty boy,
and he decides
to put the pig nose on

538
00:17:01,521 --> 00:17:03,054
and he decides
to put the pig nose on
to show solidarity with her.

539
00:17:03,056 --> 00:17:04,856
To put the pig nose on
to show solidarity with her.
Like, she was freaking out

540
00:17:04,858 --> 00:17:05,790
to show solidarity with her.
Like, she was freaking out
that he was going to see her

541
00:17:05,792 --> 00:17:06,657
like, she was freaking out
that he was going to see her
with the pig nose

542
00:17:06,659 --> 00:17:08,292
that he was going to see her
with the pig nose
because she's a slob at the dorm

543
00:17:08,294 --> 00:17:09,761
with the pig nose
because she's a slob at the dorm
and yada, yada, yada.

544
00:17:09,763 --> 00:17:12,764
Because she's a slob at the dorm
and yada, yada, yada.
And so he took it and put it on,

545
00:17:12,766 --> 00:17:13,965
and yada, yada, yada.
And so he took it and put it on,
and I improv'd something.

546
00:17:13,967 --> 00:17:16,467
And so he took it and put it on,
and I improv'd something.
I don't remember what it was,

547
00:17:16,469 --> 00:17:18,736
and I improv'd something.
I don't remember what it was,
but the audience cracked up.

548
00:17:18,738 --> 00:17:20,605
I don't remember what it was,
but the audience cracked up.
So then I started going, "okay.

549
00:17:20,607 --> 00:17:22,106
But the audience cracked up.
So then I started going, "okay.
So now what I'll do is,

550
00:17:22,108 --> 00:17:23,007
so then I started going, "okay.
So now what I'll do is,
I'll just start loading

551
00:17:23,009 --> 00:17:25,810
so now what I'll do is,
I'll just start loading
my chamber with extras

552
00:17:25,812 --> 00:17:27,345
I'll just start loading
my chamber with extras
so that when something gets

553
00:17:27,347 --> 00:17:29,180
my chamber with extras
so that when something gets
a little dry, I got something

554
00:17:29,182 --> 00:17:31,549
so that when something gets
a little dry, I got something
I could pull from and bust

555
00:17:31,551 --> 00:17:32,817
a little dry, I got something
I could pull from and bust
off a couple of shots, like,

556
00:17:32,819 --> 00:17:33,818
I could pull from and bust
off a couple of shots, like,
'boom, boom -- they didn't see

557
00:17:33,820 --> 00:17:34,752
off a couple of shots, like,
'boom, boom -- they didn't see
this one coming, they didn't see

558
00:17:34,754 --> 00:17:35,820
'boom, boom -- they didn't see
this one coming, they didn't see
that one coming.'"

559
00:17:35,822 --> 00:17:36,687
this one coming, they didn't see
that one coming.'"
and the writers would always

560
00:17:36,689 --> 00:17:38,456
that one coming.'"
and the writers would always
be happy because it wasn't like

561
00:17:38,458 --> 00:17:41,159
and the writers would always
be happy because it wasn't like
I rewrote the whole scene.

562
00:17:41,161 --> 00:17:42,493
Be happy because it wasn't like
I rewrote the whole scene.
It's their scene.

563
00:17:42,495 --> 00:17:43,895
I rewrote the whole scene.
It's their scene.
The good scenes are there,

564
00:17:43,897 --> 00:17:45,496
it's their scene.
The good scenes are there,
and I only tried to enhance it

565
00:17:45,498 --> 00:17:47,398
the good scenes are there,
and I only tried to enhance it
by saying something that

566
00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:52,270
and I only tried to enhance it
by saying something that
felt more comfortable for me.

567
00:17:52,272 --> 00:17:53,604
By saying something that
felt more comfortable for me.
The chemistry

568
00:17:53,606 --> 00:17:55,540
felt more comfortable for me.
The chemistry
wasn't there at first.

569
00:17:55,542 --> 00:17:58,209
The chemistry
wasn't there at first.
I had to learn about chemistry,

570
00:17:58,211 --> 00:18:01,179
wasn't there at first.
I had to learn about chemistry,
and I had to, sadly, learn

571
00:18:01,181 --> 00:18:03,448
I had to learn about chemistry,
and I had to, sadly, learn
about chemistry from jasmine.

572
00:18:03,450 --> 00:18:05,616
And I had to, sadly, learn
about chemistry from jasmine.
And having

573
00:18:05,618 --> 00:18:07,552
about chemistry from jasmine.
And having
a real live crush on her

574
00:18:07,554 --> 00:18:10,955
and having
a real live crush on her
just a year before, I was not

575
00:18:10,957 --> 00:18:12,457
a real live crush on her
just a year before, I was not
trying to be disrespectful

576
00:18:12,459 --> 00:18:14,592
just a year before, I was not
trying to be disrespectful
in any way to her,

577
00:18:14,594 --> 00:18:16,360
trying to be disrespectful
in any way to her,
her relationship,

578
00:18:16,362 --> 00:18:18,996
in any way to her,
her relationship,
my relationship, anything.

579
00:18:18,998 --> 00:18:20,932
Her relationship,
my relationship, anything.
I was extra cautious

580
00:18:20,934 --> 00:18:24,702
my relationship, anything.
I was extra cautious
when dealing with this new

581
00:18:24,704 --> 00:18:26,671
I was extra cautious
when dealing with this new
relationship that was happening.

582
00:18:26,673 --> 00:18:28,906
When dealing with this new
relationship that was happening.
So jas pulled me over one day,

583
00:18:28,908 --> 00:18:31,409
relationship that was happening.
So jas pulled me over one day,
and she was like, "you know

584
00:18:31,411 --> 00:18:32,477
so jas pulled me over one day,
and she was like, "you know
about chemistry, right?"

585
00:18:32,479 --> 00:18:34,245
and she was like, "you know
about chemistry, right?"
and I was like, "yeah."

586
00:18:34,247 --> 00:18:36,581
about chemistry, right?"
and I was like, "yeah."
because, to me, chemistry is,

587
00:18:36,583 --> 00:18:38,116
and I was like, "yeah."
because, to me, chemistry is,
if you good, I'm good,

588
00:18:38,118 --> 00:18:40,952
because, to me, chemistry is,
if you good, I'm good,
there's gonna be chemistry."

589
00:18:40,954 --> 00:18:41,986
if you good, I'm good,
there's gonna be chemistry."
she's like, "yeah, no,

590
00:18:41,988 --> 00:18:44,422
there's gonna be chemistry."
she's like, "yeah, no,
it's not that simple."

591
00:18:44,424 --> 00:18:45,256
she's like, "yeah, no,
it's not that simple."
she was like,

592
00:18:45,258 --> 00:18:46,524
it's not that simple."
she was like,
"no, if we're gonna do this,

593
00:18:46,526 --> 00:18:48,326
she was like,
"no, if we're gonna do this,
then it's got to be real.

594
00:18:48,328 --> 00:18:51,229
"no, if we're gonna do this,
then it's got to be real.
So feel free to do anything.

595
00:18:51,231 --> 00:18:52,830
Then it's got to be real.
So feel free to do anything.
If I'm your girl, you've got

596
00:18:52,832 --> 00:18:55,566
so feel free to do anything.
If I'm your girl, you've got
to treat me like your girl."

597
00:18:55,568 --> 00:18:56,868
if I'm your girl, you've got
to treat me like your girl."
and I was like, "okay.

598
00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:58,136
To treat me like your girl."
and I was like, "okay.
So you want me to go for it."

599
00:18:58,138 --> 00:18:59,137
and I was like, "okay.
So you want me to go for it."
[ laughs ]

600
00:18:59,139 --> 00:19:01,405
so you want me to go for it."
[ laughs ]
"okay, I can go for it.

601
00:19:01,407 --> 00:19:02,173
[ laughs ]
"okay, I can go for it.
Okay.

602
00:19:02,175 --> 00:19:03,508
"okay, I can go for it.
Okay.
As long as we all cool with

603
00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:05,376
okay.
As long as we all cool with
going for it."

604
00:19:05,378 --> 00:19:06,611
as long as we all cool with
going for it."
and from then on, it was --

605
00:19:06,613 --> 00:19:07,545
going for it."
and from then on, it was --
we just flew.

606
00:19:07,547 --> 00:19:07,979
And from then on, it was --
we just flew.
Then it was easy.

607
00:19:10,949 --> 00:19:16,721
♪
>> hardison: Cree and I,
from the time we met, when she

608
00:19:16,723 --> 00:19:18,723
>> hardison: Cree and I,
from the time we met, when she
first got cast,

609
00:19:18,725 --> 00:19:20,825
from the time we met, when she
first got cast,
we became best friends.

610
00:19:20,827 --> 00:19:22,827
First got cast,
we became best friends.
We share a love of comic books

611
00:19:22,829 --> 00:19:24,295
we became best friends.
We share a love of comic books
and motorcycles.

612
00:19:24,297 --> 00:19:25,663
We share a love of comic books
and motorcycles.
On our free time,

613
00:19:25,665 --> 00:19:26,931
and motorcycles.
On our free time,
me and cree would be on our

614
00:19:26,933 --> 00:19:29,233
on our free time,
me and cree would be on our
bikes going to comic stores,

615
00:19:29,235 --> 00:19:30,568
me and cree would be on our
bikes going to comic stores,
run around l.A.

616
00:19:30,570 --> 00:19:31,869
Bikes going to comic stores,
run around l.A.
Just being geeks.

617
00:19:31,871 --> 00:19:33,171
Run around l.A.
Just being geeks.
And then, one night, we went out

618
00:19:33,173 --> 00:19:35,139
just being geeks.
And then, one night, we went out
to a play or something like

619
00:19:35,141 --> 00:19:36,974
and then, one night, we went out
to a play or something like
that, and then we started

620
00:19:36,976 --> 00:19:37,575
to a play or something like
that, and then we started
kissing.

621
00:19:37,577 --> 00:19:38,776
That, and then we started
kissing.
The next thing you know, she was

622
00:19:38,778 --> 00:19:39,977
kissing.
The next thing you know, she was
telling me she was in love with

623
00:19:39,979 --> 00:19:41,679
the next thing you know, she was
telling me she was in love with
me, and I panicked.

624
00:19:41,681 --> 00:19:42,780
Telling me she was in love with
me, and I panicked.
[ laughs ]

625
00:19:42,782 --> 00:19:45,049
me, and I panicked.
[ laughs ]
'cause I didn't -- I didn't

626
00:19:45,051 --> 00:19:46,751
[ laughs ]
'cause I didn't -- I didn't
see it coming.

627
00:19:46,753 --> 00:19:47,818
'cause I didn't -- I didn't
see it coming.
I didn't see it coming.

628
00:19:47,820 --> 00:19:50,288
See it coming.
I didn't see it coming.
Like, I knew I loved her,

629
00:19:50,290 --> 00:19:53,224
I didn't see it coming.
Like, I knew I loved her,
but I didn't see it getting

630
00:19:53,226 --> 00:19:54,292
like, I knew I loved her,
but I didn't see it getting
heavy.

631
00:19:54,294 --> 00:19:56,060
But I didn't see it getting
heavy.
And I was like -- and it seemed

632
00:19:56,062 --> 00:19:58,229
heavy.
And I was like -- and it seemed
like I waited for an hour.

633
00:19:58,231 --> 00:19:59,063
And I was like -- and it seemed
like I waited for an hour.
I couldn't see anything.

634
00:19:59,065 --> 00:20:01,699
Like I waited for an hour.
I couldn't see anything.
I was just stunned.

635
00:20:01,701 --> 00:20:03,000
I couldn't see anything.
I was just stunned.
And she got out of the car,

636
00:20:03,002 --> 00:20:04,669
I was just stunned.
And she got out of the car,
and she slammed the door,

637
00:20:04,671 --> 00:20:06,404
and she got out of the car,
and she slammed the door,
and it was all like a blur,

638
00:20:06,406 --> 00:20:08,172
and she slammed the door,
and it was all like a blur,
like I was trapped in a bubble.

639
00:20:08,174 --> 00:20:09,707
And it was all like a blur,
like I was trapped in a bubble.
I couldn't hear her.

640
00:20:09,709 --> 00:20:12,410
Like I was trapped in a bubble.
I couldn't hear her.
I could just see her mad as hell

641
00:20:12,412 --> 00:20:13,811
I couldn't hear her.
I could just see her mad as hell
and stomping her feet.

642
00:20:13,813 --> 00:20:17,381
I could just see her mad as hell
and stomping her feet.
We went back in, and it was

643
00:20:17,383 --> 00:20:20,284
and stomping her feet.
We went back in, and it was
all cool within a week 'cause I

644
00:20:20,286 --> 00:20:22,353
we went back in, and it was
all cool within a week 'cause I
realized I love her, too.

645
00:20:22,355 --> 00:20:23,588
All cool within a week 'cause I
realized I love her, too.
So, yeah, it was --

646
00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:25,823
realized I love her, too.
So, yeah, it was --
it was such a great,

647
00:20:25,825 --> 00:20:28,993
so, yeah, it was --
it was such a great,
perfect family on set.

648
00:20:28,995 --> 00:20:31,162
It was such a great,
perfect family on set.
Like, jasmine and cree

649
00:20:31,164 --> 00:20:33,497
perfect family on set.
Like, jasmine and cree
were like this.

650
00:20:33,499 --> 00:20:34,932
Like, jasmine and cree
were like this.
And then I had to pretend to be

651
00:20:34,934 --> 00:20:36,667
were like this.
And then I had to pretend to be
in love with jasmine

652
00:20:36,669 --> 00:20:41,239
and then I had to pretend to be
in love with jasmine
while being in love with cree.

653
00:20:41,241 --> 00:20:42,607
In love with jasmine
while being in love with cree.
Yeah, the wedding.

654
00:20:42,609 --> 00:20:44,675
While being in love with cree.
Yeah, the wedding.
I -- you know, it's no secret

655
00:20:44,677 --> 00:20:46,811
yeah, the wedding.
I -- you know, it's no secret
that I'm -- that I'm probably

656
00:20:46,813 --> 00:20:48,779
I -- you know, it's no secret
that I'm -- that I'm probably
the person in america

657
00:20:48,781 --> 00:20:50,481
that I'm -- that I'm probably
the person in america
that wasn't a fan of the wedding

658
00:20:50,483 --> 00:20:51,616
the person in america
that wasn't a fan of the wedding
episode.

659
00:20:51,618 --> 00:20:53,184
That wasn't a fan of the wedding
episode.
I just couldn't see it.

660
00:20:53,186 --> 00:20:56,387
Episode.
I just couldn't see it.
I just couldn't -- I couldn't --

661
00:20:56,389 --> 00:20:58,322
I just couldn't see it.
I just couldn't -- I couldn't --
as an actor,

662
00:20:58,324 --> 00:21:00,491
I just couldn't -- I couldn't --
as an actor,
I was having a hard time

663
00:21:00,493 --> 00:21:01,259
as an actor,
I was having a hard time
getting to the place

664
00:21:01,261 --> 00:21:03,261
I was having a hard time
getting to the place
where I could make that leap.

665
00:21:03,263 --> 00:21:04,362
Getting to the place
where I could make that leap.
Joe morton, playing

666
00:21:04,364 --> 00:21:06,130
where I could make that leap.
Joe morton, playing
byron douglas, came on,

667
00:21:06,132 --> 00:21:07,498
joe morton, playing
byron douglas, came on,
who was magnetic.

668
00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:09,367
Byron douglas, came on,
who was magnetic.
You know, he captured all of

669
00:21:09,369 --> 00:21:11,535
who was magnetic.
You know, he captured all of
the kids and rallied us around

670
00:21:11,537 --> 00:21:12,603
you know, he captured all of
the kids and rallied us around
and had us -- we was working

671
00:21:12,605 --> 00:21:13,070
the kids and rallied us around
and had us -- we was working
for him.

672
00:21:13,072 --> 00:21:14,438
And had us -- we was working
for him.
We was campaigning for him.

673
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,407
For him.
We was campaigning for him.
We wanted to see him win.

674
00:21:16,409 --> 00:21:17,541
We was campaigning for him.
We wanted to see him win.
And then, somehow,

675
00:21:17,543 --> 00:21:20,544
we wanted to see him win.
And then, somehow,
because I'd had a misstep

676
00:21:20,546 --> 00:21:22,213
and then, somehow,
because I'd had a misstep
in the relationship,

677
00:21:22,215 --> 00:21:23,547
because I'd had a misstep
in the relationship,
now dwayne and whitley

678
00:21:23,549 --> 00:21:24,282
in the relationship,
now dwayne and whitley
were off the table,

679
00:21:24,284 --> 00:21:29,053
now dwayne and whitley
were off the table,
and she naturally found home

680
00:21:29,055 --> 00:21:30,588
were off the table,
and she naturally found home
with someone who was -- who

681
00:21:30,590 --> 00:21:31,622
and she naturally found home
with someone who was -- who
might actually have been

682
00:21:31,624 --> 00:21:33,424
with someone who was -- who
might actually have been
perfect for her.

683
00:21:33,426 --> 00:21:36,127
Might actually have been
perfect for her.
This dude was providing

684
00:21:36,129 --> 00:21:38,329
perfect for her.
This dude was providing
her ideal life --<i> could</i> provide

685
00:21:38,331 --> 00:21:39,864
this dude was providing
her ideal life --<i> could</i> provide
her ideal life.

686
00:21:39,866 --> 00:21:40,998
Her ideal life --<i> could</i> provide
her ideal life.
I don't have a problem with

687
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,199
her ideal life.
I don't have a problem with
whitley and dwayne ending up

688
00:21:42,201 --> 00:21:44,135
I don't have a problem with
whitley and dwayne ending up
together, but how they ended up

689
00:21:44,137 --> 00:21:48,372
whitley and dwayne ending up
together, but how they ended up
together just didn't feel

690
00:21:48,374 --> 00:21:52,243
together, but how they ended up
together just didn't feel
as, um -- as authentic

691
00:21:52,245 --> 00:21:53,611
together just didn't feel
as, um -- as authentic
as some of the stuff

692
00:21:53,613 --> 00:21:55,146
as, um -- as authentic
as some of the stuff
we were doing.

693
00:21:55,148 --> 00:21:56,614
As some of the stuff
we were doing.
It felt like it just

694
00:21:56,616 --> 00:21:58,082
we were doing.
It felt like it just
rang false in my ear.

695
00:21:58,084 --> 00:22:01,085
It felt like it just
rang false in my ear.
Just like, "I'm gonna do what?"

696
00:22:01,087 --> 00:22:03,554
rang false in my ear.
Just like, "I'm gonna do what?"
you had your shot, bro,

697
00:22:03,556 --> 00:22:05,456
just like, "I'm gonna do what?"
you had your shot, bro,
and you gave it up.

698
00:22:05,458 --> 00:22:07,425
You had your shot, bro,
and you gave it up.
Now -- and this is what I

699
00:22:07,427 --> 00:22:08,726
and you gave it up.
Now -- and this is what I
pitched.

700
00:22:08,728 --> 00:22:10,961
Now -- and this is what I
pitched.
I'd go to her the night before,

701
00:22:10,963 --> 00:22:12,630
pitched.
I'd go to her the night before,
which, yeah, that's a snake in

702
00:22:12,632 --> 00:22:13,597
I'd go to her the night before,
which, yeah, that's a snake in
the grass.

703
00:22:13,599 --> 00:22:16,100
Which, yeah, that's a snake in
the grass.
But if I'm taking my last shot,

704
00:22:16,102 --> 00:22:17,768
the grass.
But if I'm taking my last shot,
I'm not trying to embarrass you,

705
00:22:17,770 --> 00:22:19,003
but if I'm taking my last shot,
I'm not trying to embarrass you,
and your mom was here, and your

706
00:22:19,005 --> 00:22:20,471
I'm not trying to embarrass you,
and your mom was here, and your
brother's here and your cousins

707
00:22:20,473 --> 00:22:21,405
and your mom was here, and your
brother's here and your cousins
and all your people, you done

708
00:22:21,407 --> 00:22:23,407
brother's here and your cousins
and all your people, you done
paid for all this [bleep]

709
00:22:23,409 --> 00:22:24,809
and all your people, you done
paid for all this [bleep]
it was like, "yo, something

710
00:22:24,811 --> 00:22:26,277
paid for all this [bleep]
it was like, "yo, something
about this is making me extra

711
00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:26,911
it was like, "yo, something
about this is making me extra
nervous.

712
00:22:26,913 --> 00:22:29,213
About this is making me extra
nervous.
Like, I don't feel this.

713
00:22:29,215 --> 00:22:31,649
Nervous.
Like, I don't feel this.
Like, how about if..."

714
00:22:31,651 --> 00:22:33,284
like, I don't feel this.
Like, how about if..."
and they loved the idea,

715
00:22:33,286 --> 00:22:35,186
like, how about if..."
and they loved the idea,
and they wrote it into the show

716
00:22:35,188 --> 00:22:37,088
and they loved the idea,
and they wrote it into the show
so that, the night before,

717
00:22:37,090 --> 00:22:39,123
and they wrote it into the show
so that, the night before,
dwayne shows up at her crib

718
00:22:39,125 --> 00:22:40,858
so that, the night before,
dwayne shows up at her crib
and is like --

719
00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:42,226
dwayne shows up at her crib
and is like --
you know, they have a really

720
00:22:42,228 --> 00:22:43,527
and is like --
you know, they have a really
great conversation,

721
00:22:43,529 --> 00:22:44,695
you know, they have a really
great conversation,
a really kind of

722
00:22:44,697 --> 00:22:46,063
great conversation,
a really kind of
a deep conversation

723
00:22:46,065 --> 00:22:47,932
a really kind of
a deep conversation
about each other to each other.

724
00:22:47,934 --> 00:22:48,933
A deep conversation
about each other to each other.
And debbie was like,

725
00:22:48,935 --> 00:22:49,967
about each other to each other.
And debbie was like,
"but you're still gonna have --"

726
00:22:49,969 --> 00:22:50,468
and debbie was like,
"but you're still gonna have --"
[ laughs ]

727
00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:51,469
"but you're still gonna have --"
[ laughs ]
and she was like, "but you're

728
00:22:51,471 --> 00:22:52,503
[ laughs ]
and she was like, "but you're
still gonna have to do it,

729
00:22:52,505 --> 00:22:53,437
and she was like, "but you're
still gonna have to do it,
honey.

730
00:22:53,439 --> 00:22:54,705
Still gonna have to do it,
honey.
They gave you -- they gave you

731
00:22:54,707 --> 00:22:55,172
honey.
They gave you -- they gave you
a scene.

732
00:22:55,174 --> 00:22:55,840
They gave you -- they gave you
a scene.
You see that?

733
00:22:55,842 --> 00:22:56,807
A scene.
You see that?
They gave you a scene.

734
00:22:56,809 --> 00:22:57,708
You see that?
They gave you a scene.
You asked for this scene.

735
00:22:57,710 --> 00:22:58,876
They gave you a scene.
You asked for this scene.
They gave you a scene.

736
00:22:58,878 --> 00:23:00,444
You asked for this scene.
They gave you a scene.
Now you still -- turn the page.

737
00:23:00,446 --> 00:23:01,645
They gave you a scene.
Now you still -- turn the page.
Turn the page.

738
00:23:01,647 --> 00:23:05,483
Now you still -- turn the page.
Turn the page.
You still got to do this part."

739
00:23:05,485 --> 00:23:06,951
turn the page.
You still got to do this part."
let's talk about the mess-up.

740
00:23:06,953 --> 00:23:07,585
You still got to do this part."
let's talk about the mess-up.
See?

741
00:23:07,587 --> 00:23:10,254
Let's talk about the mess-up.
See?
'cause whitley was putting --

742
00:23:10,256 --> 00:23:12,423
see?
'cause whitley was putting --
[ laughs ] -- an immense amount

743
00:23:12,425 --> 00:23:14,058
'cause whitley was putting --
[ laughs ] -- an immense amount
of pressure on old boy

744
00:23:14,060 --> 00:23:16,227
[ laughs ] -- an immense amount
of pressure on old boy
about this wedding.

745
00:23:16,229 --> 00:23:19,764
Of pressure on old boy
about this wedding.
So he meets a math nerd,

746
00:23:19,766 --> 00:23:22,566
about this wedding.
So he meets a math nerd,
he goes out to dinner with her,

747
00:23:22,568 --> 00:23:26,070
so he meets a math nerd,
he goes out to dinner with her,
he touches her hand.

748
00:23:26,072 --> 00:23:27,338
He goes out to dinner with her,
he touches her hand.
So debbie comes on, and she

749
00:23:27,340 --> 00:23:29,573
he touches her hand.
So debbie comes on, and she
plays this teacher who dwayne

750
00:23:29,575 --> 00:23:32,576
so debbie comes on, and she
plays this teacher who dwayne
has a -- an emotional attachment

751
00:23:32,578 --> 00:23:34,512
plays this teacher who dwayne
has a -- an emotional attachment
to only because --

752
00:23:34,514 --> 00:23:36,313
has a -- an emotional attachment
to only because --
and they set you up.

753
00:23:36,315 --> 00:23:38,115
To only because --
and they set you up.
Whitley is with me at this event

754
00:23:38,117 --> 00:23:39,450
and they set you up.
Whitley is with me at this event
for these math nerds,

755
00:23:39,452 --> 00:23:40,918
whitley is with me at this event
for these math nerds,
and she don't want to be there.

756
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,753
For these math nerds,
and she don't want to be there.
See, her [bleep] I go to,

757
00:23:42,755 --> 00:23:44,021
and she don't want to be there.
See, her [bleep] I go to,
and I try to be there.

758
00:23:44,023 --> 00:23:44,822
See, her [bleep] I go to,
and I try to be there.
Next thing you know,

759
00:23:44,824 --> 00:23:46,357
and I try to be there.
Next thing you know,
I'm flipping barbecue sauce,

760
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,358
next thing you know,
I'm flipping barbecue sauce,
and I'm so nervous

761
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:50,594
I'm flipping barbecue sauce,
and I'm so nervous
and out of sorts.

762
00:23:50,596 --> 00:23:52,963
And I'm so nervous
and out of sorts.
Then I form an instant

763
00:23:52,965 --> 00:23:56,467
and out of sorts.
Then I form an instant
connection with somebody who's a

764
00:23:56,469 --> 00:23:57,968
then I form an instant
connection with somebody who's a
little bit like the opposite of

765
00:23:57,970 --> 00:23:58,636
connection with somebody who's a
little bit like the opposite of
whitley.

766
00:23:58,638 --> 00:24:00,671
Little bit like the opposite of
whitley.
I spill barbecue sauce

767
00:24:00,673 --> 00:24:02,773
whitley.
I spill barbecue sauce
all over her dress,

768
00:24:02,775 --> 00:24:04,275
I spill barbecue sauce
all over her dress,
and I think I touched her hand

769
00:24:04,277 --> 00:24:06,177
all over her dress,
and I think I touched her hand
in the show, in the episode,

770
00:24:06,179 --> 00:24:07,511
and I think I touched her hand
in the show, in the episode,
and that sent people into,

771
00:24:07,513 --> 00:24:11,315
in the show, in the episode,
and that sent people into,
like, "oooh!"

772
00:24:11,317 --> 00:24:12,416
and that sent people into,
like, "oooh!"
and that was another one of

773
00:24:12,418 --> 00:24:13,551
like, "oooh!"
and that was another one of
those episodes where I was like,

774
00:24:13,553 --> 00:24:15,085
and that was another one of
those episodes where I was like,
"nothing's going on, really.

775
00:24:15,087 --> 00:24:16,220
Those episodes where I was like,
"nothing's going on, really.
Like..."

776
00:24:16,222 --> 00:24:18,622
"nothing's going on, really.
Like..."
but we have to, you know --

777
00:24:18,624 --> 00:24:20,391
like..."
but we have to, you know --
the arc is, we have to break you

778
00:24:20,393 --> 00:24:21,492
but we have to, you know --
the arc is, we have to break you
up so we can get you back

779
00:24:21,494 --> 00:24:22,793
the arc is, we have to break you
up so we can get you back
together."

780
00:24:22,795 --> 00:24:25,796
up so we can get you back
together."
that's your job is to get there.

781
00:24:25,798 --> 00:24:28,232
Together."
that's your job is to get there.
And if you can't do that job,

782
00:24:28,234 --> 00:24:28,966
that's your job is to get there.
And if you can't do that job,
then you really

783
00:24:28,968 --> 00:24:29,700
and if you can't do that job,
then you really
shouldn't have it.

784
00:24:29,702 --> 00:24:31,302
Then you really
shouldn't have it.
So I took pride in,

785
00:24:31,304 --> 00:24:33,204
shouldn't have it.
So I took pride in,
"okay, even though

786
00:24:33,206 --> 00:24:34,872
so I took pride in,
"okay, even though
kadeem doesn't agree

787
00:24:34,874 --> 00:24:38,843
"okay, even though
kadeem doesn't agree
with this 100%,

788
00:24:38,845 --> 00:24:41,645
kadeem doesn't agree
with this 100%,
somehow dwayne has to."

789
00:24:41,647 --> 00:24:43,914
with this 100%,
somehow dwayne has to."
and one of the things I did,

790
00:24:43,916 --> 00:24:46,317
somehow dwayne has to."
and one of the things I did,
when I'm walking towards her,

791
00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:48,519
and one of the things I did,
when I'm walking towards her,
saying my vows,

792
00:24:48,521 --> 00:24:50,754
when I'm walking towards her,
saying my vows,
there's a guy on my left arm

793
00:24:50,756 --> 00:24:52,490
saying my vows,
there's a guy on my left arm
who's gonna grab me

794
00:24:52,492 --> 00:24:54,225
there's a guy on my left arm
who's gonna grab me
and try to stop me.

795
00:24:54,227 --> 00:24:56,827
Who's gonna grab me
and try to stop me.
And I told him, I said,

796
00:24:56,829 --> 00:24:58,195
and try to stop me.
And I told him, I said,
"when you go to grab me,

797
00:24:58,197 --> 00:25:00,297
and I told him, I said,
"when you go to grab me,
I want you to make it strong

798
00:25:00,299 --> 00:25:02,600
"when you go to grab me,
I want you to make it strong
so that I can't get away."

799
00:25:02,602 --> 00:25:04,101
I want you to make it strong
so that I can't get away."
I was setting him up, really,

800
00:25:04,103 --> 00:25:04,935
so that I can't get away."
I was setting him up, really,
because I just gave him

801
00:25:04,937 --> 00:25:05,836
I was setting him up, really,
because I just gave him
a swim move,

802
00:25:05,838 --> 00:25:08,038
because I just gave him
a swim move,
which in football it's like as

803
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,974
a swim move,
which in football it's like as
soon as he started to come, and

804
00:25:09,976 --> 00:25:11,876
which in football it's like as
soon as he started to come, and
it just made him look awkward.

805
00:25:11,878 --> 00:25:12,610
Soon as he started to come, and
it just made him look awkward.
So, yeah.

806
00:25:12,612 --> 00:25:15,246
It just made him look awkward.
So, yeah.
So I had to really kind of,

807
00:25:15,248 --> 00:25:18,048
so, yeah.
So I had to really kind of,
you know, play little tricks

808
00:25:18,050 --> 00:25:20,584
so I had to really kind of,
you know, play little tricks
just to keep me going.

809
00:25:20,586 --> 00:25:22,186
You know, play little tricks
just to keep me going.
It wasn't long,

810
00:25:22,188 --> 00:25:24,154
just to keep me going.
It wasn't long,
but we did make it -- for me --

811
00:25:24,156 --> 00:25:26,090
it wasn't long,
but we did make it -- for me --
a leap where we -- we just

812
00:25:26,092 --> 00:25:28,325
but we did make it -- for me --
a leap where we -- we just
kind of left reality behind for

813
00:25:28,327 --> 00:25:30,160
a leap where we -- we just
kind of left reality behind for
this fantasy.

814
00:25:30,162 --> 00:25:31,595
Kind of left reality behind for
this fantasy.
It had to be done because

815
00:25:31,597 --> 00:25:33,864
this fantasy.
It had to be done because
everybody else loved it.

816
00:25:33,866 --> 00:25:36,767
It had to be done because
everybody else loved it.
But I was the one that was kind

817
00:25:36,769 --> 00:25:41,472
everybody else loved it.
But I was the one that was kind
of fighting it the whole time.

818
00:25:41,474 --> 00:25:43,340
But I was the one that was kind
of fighting it the whole time.
When he came to set,

819
00:25:43,342 --> 00:25:45,676
of fighting it the whole time.
When he came to set,
it was easy.

820
00:25:45,678 --> 00:25:46,944
When he came to set,
it was easy.
You know, as a director,

821
00:25:46,946 --> 00:25:49,880
it was easy.
You know, as a director,
you kind of say, "okay.

822
00:25:49,882 --> 00:25:50,948
You know, as a director,
you kind of say, "okay.
Let's try rehearsal, and

823
00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:52,049
you kind of say, "okay.
Let's try rehearsal, and
action."

824
00:25:52,051 --> 00:25:53,117
let's try rehearsal, and
action."
and then you go, "cut.

825
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,853
Action."
and then you go, "cut.
That was perfect.

826
00:25:55,855 --> 00:25:57,588
And then you go, "cut.
That was perfect.
Let's -- let's do it again

827
00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:58,422
that was perfect.
Let's -- let's do it again
for safety, to make sure

828
00:25:58,424 --> 00:25:59,657
let's -- let's do it again
for safety, to make sure
we get all the steps.

829
00:25:59,659 --> 00:26:00,491
For safety, to make sure
we get all the steps.
You know what I mean?

830
00:26:00,493 --> 00:26:02,626
We get all the steps.
You know what I mean?
Blocking, you come over here."

831
00:26:02,628 --> 00:26:04,161
you know what I mean?
Blocking, you come over here."
there was nothing to tell him.

832
00:26:04,163 --> 00:26:05,829
Blocking, you come over here."
there was nothing to tell him.
There was nothing to him.

833
00:26:05,831 --> 00:26:07,464
There was nothing to tell him.
There was nothing to him.
Him and jada were seamless.

834
00:26:07,466 --> 00:26:08,265
There was nothing to him.
Him and jada were seamless.
You know what I mean?

835
00:26:08,267 --> 00:26:10,100
Him and jada were seamless.
You know what I mean?
They worked perfectly together.

836
00:26:10,102 --> 00:26:11,769
You know what I mean?
They worked perfectly together.
The only -- the only challenge

837
00:26:11,771 --> 00:26:13,437
they worked perfectly together.
The only -- the only challenge
was pulling him off of bumper

838
00:26:13,439 --> 00:26:14,772
the only -- the only challenge
was pulling him off of bumper
when they were rehearsing

839
00:26:14,774 --> 00:26:15,906
was pulling him off of bumper
when they were rehearsing
the fight.

840
00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:17,508
When they were rehearsing
the fight.
Like, he was in it.

841
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:18,375
The fight.
Like, he was in it.
Like, he was --

842
00:26:18,377 --> 00:26:19,944
like, he was in it.
Like, he was --
I was like, "cut, cut, cut!

843
00:26:19,946 --> 00:26:22,046
Like, he was --
I was like, "cut, cut, cut!
Cut! Cut!

844
00:26:22,048 --> 00:26:22,713
I was like, "cut, cut, cut!
Cut! Cut!
Save it.

845
00:26:22,715 --> 00:26:23,781
Cut! Cut!
Save it.
Save it for --

846
00:26:23,783 --> 00:26:26,850
save it.
Save it for --
save it for the audience."

847
00:26:26,852 --> 00:26:27,518
save it for --
save it for the audience."
but that was it.

848
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,186
Save it for the audience."
but that was it.
Like, you know, he still

849
00:26:29,188 --> 00:26:29,987
but that was it.
Like, you know, he still
was a --

850
00:26:29,989 --> 00:26:31,255
like, you know, he still
was a --
you know, he was a good rapper,

851
00:26:31,257 --> 00:26:31,956
was a --
you know, he was a good rapper,
really good rapper,

852
00:26:31,958 --> 00:26:33,557
you know, he was a good rapper,
really good rapper,
but he was a master actor.

853
00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:34,625
Really good rapper,
but he was a master actor.
I thought -- I just thought

854
00:26:34,627 --> 00:26:36,427
but he was a master actor.
I thought -- I just thought
that we didn't even get

855
00:26:36,429 --> 00:26:37,728
I thought -- I just thought
that we didn't even get
to scratch the surface

856
00:26:37,730 --> 00:26:39,163
that we didn't even get
to scratch the surface
of what he could have been

857
00:26:39,165 --> 00:26:42,700
to scratch the surface
of what he could have been
as an actor.

858
00:26:42,702 --> 00:26:44,268
Of what he could have been
as an actor.
Yeah, if I had to have

859
00:26:44,270 --> 00:26:45,903
as an actor.
Yeah, if I had to have
one favorite episode,

860
00:26:45,905 --> 00:26:49,206
yeah, if I had to have
one favorite episode,
it would be the n-word episode.

861
00:26:49,208 --> 00:26:50,374
One favorite episode,
it would be the n-word episode.
It was -- it was a chance to

862
00:26:50,376 --> 00:26:51,175
it would be the n-word episode.
It was -- it was a chance to
act.

863
00:26:51,177 --> 00:26:52,943
It was -- it was a chance to
act.
It was a chance to be real.

864
00:26:52,945 --> 00:26:55,512
Act.
It was a chance to be real.
Like, they let me dress myself.

865
00:26:55,514 --> 00:26:56,747
It was a chance to be real.
Like, they let me dress myself.
Like, that's the only ti--

866
00:26:56,749 --> 00:26:59,516
like, they let me dress myself.
Like, that's the only ti--
like, usually, I controlled the

867
00:26:59,518 --> 00:27:01,552
like, that's the only ti--
like, usually, I controlled the
sneakers that I wore,

868
00:27:01,554 --> 00:27:03,153
like, usually, I controlled the
sneakers that I wore,
and that was it.

869
00:27:03,155 --> 00:27:05,489
Sneakers that I wore,
and that was it.
And for this episode,

870
00:27:05,491 --> 00:27:07,625
and that was it.
And for this episode,
I was like, "yo, can I wear --

871
00:27:07,627 --> 00:27:09,693
and for this episode,
I was like, "yo, can I wear --
you mind if I wear my jacket and

872
00:27:09,695 --> 00:27:12,363
I was like, "yo, can I wear --
you mind if I wear my jacket and
my hood?"

873
00:27:12,365 --> 00:27:13,530
you mind if I wear my jacket and
my hood?"
because I knew my hood had a

874
00:27:13,532 --> 00:27:14,198
my hood?"
because I knew my hood had a
point to it.

875
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,666
Because I knew my hood had a
point to it.
I had a black hood that

876
00:27:15,668 --> 00:27:18,335
point to it.
I had a black hood that
had a point to it, and I wanted

877
00:27:18,337 --> 00:27:21,071
I had a black hood that
had a point to it, and I wanted
to make that statement

878
00:27:21,073 --> 00:27:24,408
had a point to it, and I wanted
to make that statement
for that particular joint.

879
00:27:24,410 --> 00:27:25,743
To make that statement
for that particular joint.
Yeah, it was -- it was a chance

880
00:27:25,745 --> 00:27:28,512
for that particular joint.
Yeah, it was -- it was a chance
to be a little bit of a bad guy.

881
00:27:28,514 --> 00:27:29,413
Yeah, it was -- it was a chance
to be a little bit of a bad guy.
You know what I mean?

882
00:27:29,415 --> 00:27:31,048
To be a little bit of a bad guy.
You know what I mean?
Like...

883
00:27:31,050 --> 00:27:32,616
You know what I mean?
Like...
And to say some stuff

884
00:27:32,618 --> 00:27:34,485
like...
And to say some stuff
that needed to be said.

885
00:27:34,487 --> 00:27:38,022
And to say some stuff
that needed to be said.
I improv'd one word

886
00:27:38,024 --> 00:27:40,391
that needed to be said.
I improv'd one word
in that whole episode.

887
00:27:40,393 --> 00:27:42,493
I improv'd one word
in that whole episode.
And it was "duke," because that

888
00:27:42,495 --> 00:27:44,495
in that whole episode.
And it was "duke," because that
was a shout-out to brooklyn,

889
00:27:44,497 --> 00:27:45,262
and it was "duke," because that
was a shout-out to brooklyn,
'cause we would always

890
00:27:45,264 --> 00:27:47,264
was a shout-out to brooklyn,
'cause we would always
call dudes "duke."

891
00:27:47,266 --> 00:27:49,199
'cause we would always
call dudes "duke."
and then it was a shout-out

892
00:27:49,201 --> 00:27:50,868
call dudes "duke."
and then it was a shout-out
to david duke, who was the head

893
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:54,038
and then it was a shout-out
to david duke, who was the head
of the kkk, or had been.

894
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,706
To david duke, who was the head
of the kkk, or had been.
So I wanted to -- I wanted to

895
00:27:55,708 --> 00:27:57,341
of the kkk, or had been.
So I wanted to -- I wanted to
throw that kind of

896
00:27:57,343 --> 00:27:59,677
so I wanted to -- I wanted to
throw that kind of
double entendre in there.

897
00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:01,679
Throw that kind of
double entendre in there.
So he said -- you know, I said,

898
00:28:01,681 --> 00:28:03,213
double entendre in there.
So he said -- you know, I said,
"my grandfather was born here,

899
00:28:03,215 --> 00:28:04,314
so he said -- you know, I said,
"my grandfather was born here,
duke.

900
00:28:04,316 --> 00:28:05,649
"my grandfather was born here,
duke.
And you people still look at me

901
00:28:05,651 --> 00:28:07,217
duke.
And you people still look at me
as just another [bleep]."

902
00:28:07,219 --> 00:28:08,318
and you people still look at me
as just another [bleep]."
"duke" was the only thing

903
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,321
as just another [bleep]."
"duke" was the only thing
I added in that whole episode.

904
00:28:11,323 --> 00:28:13,624
"duke" was the only thing
I added in that whole episode.
It just felt necessary.

905
00:28:13,626 --> 00:28:14,825
I added in that whole episode.
It just felt necessary.
And nobody said anything

906
00:28:14,827 --> 00:28:15,225
it just felt necessary.
And nobody said anything
about it.

907
00:28:15,227 --> 00:28:16,894
And nobody said anything
about it.
Nobody was like,

908
00:28:16,896 --> 00:28:18,295
about it.
Nobody was like,
"ooh, I got that," or, "don't do

909
00:28:18,297 --> 00:28:19,296
nobody was like,
"ooh, I got that," or, "don't do
that," or -- nothing.

910
00:28:19,298 --> 00:28:19,963
"ooh, I got that," or, "don't do
that," or -- nothing.
It was like, "yeah, good take."

911
00:28:25,103 --> 00:28:28,072
>> hardison: "vampire in
brooklyn's" story.
Me and eddie are at the table

912
00:28:28,074 --> 00:28:28,939
brooklyn's" story.
Me and eddie are at the table
read.

913
00:28:28,941 --> 00:28:30,340
Me and eddie are at the table
read.
And, um --

914
00:28:30,342 --> 00:28:32,543
read.
And, um --
and we're friends, so we're --

915
00:28:32,545 --> 00:28:33,977
and, um --
and we're friends, so we're --
we got lots of inside jokes.

916
00:28:33,979 --> 00:28:37,781
And we're friends, so we're --
we got lots of inside jokes.
And I said to him,

917
00:28:37,783 --> 00:28:39,249
we got lots of inside jokes.
And I said to him,
"wouldn't it be funny

918
00:28:39,251 --> 00:28:41,719
and I said to him,
"wouldn't it be funny
if, at the end, when everything

919
00:28:41,721 --> 00:28:43,454
"wouldn't it be funny
if, at the end, when everything
went back to normal,

920
00:28:43,456 --> 00:28:45,989
if, at the end, when everything
went back to normal,
I stayed in this ghoul state,

921
00:28:45,991 --> 00:28:47,624
went back to normal,
I stayed in this ghoul state,
stuck?"

922
00:28:47,626 --> 00:28:49,927
I stayed in this ghoul state,
stuck?"
and he laughed, and I laughed,

923
00:28:49,929 --> 00:28:52,262
stuck?"
and he laughed, and I laughed,
and they went with it.

924
00:28:52,264 --> 00:28:54,231
And he laughed, and I laughed,
and they went with it.
And then they saw it,

925
00:28:54,233 --> 00:28:54,965
and they went with it.
And then they saw it,
and then they was like,

926
00:28:54,967 --> 00:28:56,200
and then they saw it,
and then they was like,
"that's not working."

927
00:28:56,202 --> 00:28:57,401
and then they was like,
"that's not working."
six months later, they called me

928
00:28:57,403 --> 00:28:58,669
"that's not working."
six months later, they called me
up and was like, "yeah, we got

929
00:28:58,671 --> 00:29:00,804
six months later, they called me
up and was like, "yeah, we got
to reshoot that whole ending.

930
00:29:00,806 --> 00:29:01,905
Up and was like, "yeah, we got
to reshoot that whole ending.
That's not working.

931
00:29:01,907 --> 00:29:02,906
To reshoot that whole ending.
That's not working.
And he didn't have to go to

932
00:29:02,908 --> 00:29:03,340
that's not working.
And he didn't have to go to
work.

933
00:29:03,342 --> 00:29:04,808
And he didn't have to go to
work.
[ laughs ]

934
00:29:04,810 --> 00:29:05,809
work.
[ laughs ]
it was just me.

935
00:29:05,811 --> 00:29:07,478
[ laughs ]
it was just me.
Me and spoon got in the limo,

936
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,346
it was just me.
Me and spoon got in the limo,
and da da da da, and...

937
00:29:09,348 --> 00:29:10,748
Me and spoon got in the limo,
and da da da da, and...
Yeah, it was a great reshoot

938
00:29:10,750 --> 00:29:12,516
and da da da da, and...
Yeah, it was a great reshoot
and a fun way to end the movie,

939
00:29:12,518 --> 00:29:14,251
yeah, it was a great reshoot
and a fun way to end the movie,
but we just thought, "yeah,

940
00:29:14,253 --> 00:29:16,286
and a fun way to end the movie,
but we just thought, "yeah,
just the darker ending was like,

941
00:29:16,288 --> 00:29:17,454
but we just thought, "yeah,
just the darker ending was like,
yeah, you feel sorry for this

942
00:29:17,456 --> 00:29:18,489
just the darker ending was like,
yeah, you feel sorry for this
one dude here who has to

943
00:29:18,491 --> 00:29:19,990
yeah, you feel sorry for this
one dude here who has to
walk around with his ear

944
00:29:19,992 --> 00:29:21,291
one dude here who has to
walk around with his ear
and his skin falling off

945
00:29:21,293 --> 00:29:23,961
walk around with his ear
and his skin falling off
for the rest of his life."

946
00:29:23,963 --> 00:29:25,429
and his skin falling off
for the rest of his life."
I went back to new york.

947
00:29:25,431 --> 00:29:27,331
For the rest of his life."
I went back to new york.
It was a rough time, actually.

948
00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:28,632
I went back to new york.
It was a rough time, actually.
Like, I was having

949
00:29:28,634 --> 00:29:30,000
it was a rough time, actually.
Like, I was having
a hard time getting arrested.

950
00:29:30,002 --> 00:29:32,002
Like, I was having
a hard time getting arrested.
Like, I couldn't book a job

951
00:29:32,004 --> 00:29:33,437
a hard time getting arrested.
Like, I couldn't book a job
for nothing.

952
00:29:33,439 --> 00:29:35,038
Like, I couldn't book a job
for nothing.
And I packed up the house

953
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,141
for nothing.
And I packed up the house
and moved back to new york,

954
00:29:37,143 --> 00:29:39,176
and I packed up the house
and moved back to new york,
back to my room on 20th street

955
00:29:39,178 --> 00:29:40,444
and moved back to new york,
back to my room on 20th street
with moms.

956
00:29:40,446 --> 00:29:41,945
Back to my room on 20th street
with moms.
And then got this opportunity to

957
00:29:41,947 --> 00:29:43,046
with moms.
And then got this opportunity to
do this disney show and was

958
00:29:43,048 --> 00:29:44,915
and then got this opportunity to
do this disney show and was
like -- yeah, I wasn't really

959
00:29:44,917 --> 00:29:46,683
do this disney show and was
like -- yeah, I wasn't really
into it.

960
00:29:46,685 --> 00:29:47,851
Like -- yeah, I wasn't really
into it.
I was pretty much hemmed in

961
00:29:47,853 --> 00:29:49,520
into it.
I was pretty much hemmed in
to being a good guy.

962
00:29:49,522 --> 00:29:51,221
I was pretty much hemmed in
to being a good guy.
I've always wanted to be

963
00:29:51,223 --> 00:29:53,157
to being a good guy.
I've always wanted to be
a bad guy.

964
00:29:53,159 --> 00:29:54,792
I've always wanted to be
a bad guy.
I knew that disney

965
00:29:54,794 --> 00:29:56,894
a bad guy.
I knew that disney
wasn't the place, so when

966
00:29:56,896 --> 00:29:58,328
I knew that disney
wasn't the place, so when
that opportunity came up,

967
00:29:58,330 --> 00:30:01,965
wasn't the place, so when
that opportunity came up,
I was kind of like, "eh..."

968
00:30:01,967 --> 00:30:04,368
that opportunity came up,
I was kind of like, "eh..."
and while I'm in new york,

969
00:30:04,370 --> 00:30:07,137
I was kind of like, "eh..."
and while I'm in new york,
visiting my brothers and nieces

970
00:30:07,139 --> 00:30:08,539
and while I'm in new york,
visiting my brothers and nieces
and nephews, they were like,

971
00:30:08,541 --> 00:30:09,606
visiting my brothers and nieces
and nephews, they were like,
"so what are you gonna do next?

972
00:30:09,608 --> 00:30:10,607
And nephews, they were like,
"so what are you gonna do next?
What are you gonna do next,

973
00:30:10,609 --> 00:30:11,041
"so what are you gonna do next?
What are you gonna do next,
uncle?

974
00:30:11,043 --> 00:30:12,776
What are you gonna do next,
uncle?
I was like, "they're kind of

975
00:30:12,778 --> 00:30:14,778
uncle?
I was like, "they're kind of
after me about doing this show

976
00:30:14,780 --> 00:30:16,680
I was like, "they're kind of
after me about doing this show
with this girl, 'zendaiya,'

977
00:30:16,682 --> 00:30:17,948
after me about doing this show
with this girl, 'zendaiya,'
or something," and they were

978
00:30:17,950 --> 00:30:20,184
with this girl, 'zendaiya,'
or something," and they were
like, "zendaya?"

979
00:30:20,186 --> 00:30:21,552
or something," and they were
like, "zendaya?"
and I was like, "yeah.

980
00:30:21,554 --> 00:30:23,320
Like, "zendaya?"
and I was like, "yeah.
I think that's her name."

981
00:30:23,322 --> 00:30:24,121
and I was like, "yeah.
I think that's her name."
and they was like,

982
00:30:24,123 --> 00:30:25,155
I think that's her name."
and they was like,
"this girl is incredible.

983
00:30:25,157 --> 00:30:26,723
And they was like,
"this girl is incredible.
You have to do it."

984
00:30:26,725 --> 00:30:28,392
"this girl is incredible.
You have to do it."
everybody from like my

985
00:30:28,394 --> 00:30:30,727
you have to do it."
everybody from like my
7-year-old niece to my

986
00:30:30,729 --> 00:30:32,796
everybody from like my
7-year-old niece to my
30-year-old sister, they all

987
00:30:32,798 --> 00:30:35,799
7-year-old niece to my
30-year-old sister, they all
were like, "stop. Do that."

988
00:30:35,801 --> 00:30:37,234
30-year-old sister, they all
were like, "stop. Do that."
and I was like, "yeah, but --

989
00:30:37,236 --> 00:30:38,602
were like, "stop. Do that."
and I was like, "yeah, but --
yeah, but it's on a disney

990
00:30:38,604 --> 00:30:39,069
and I was like, "yeah, but --
yeah, but it's on a disney
channel."

991
00:30:39,071 --> 00:30:40,170
yeah, but it's on a disney
channel."
they was like,

992
00:30:40,172 --> 00:30:42,739
channel."
they was like,
"do that. She's amazing.

993
00:30:42,741 --> 00:30:44,608
They was like,
"do that. She's amazing.
You'll thank us later."

994
00:30:44,610 --> 00:30:45,709
"do that. She's amazing.
You'll thank us later."
and that was what kind of

995
00:30:45,711 --> 00:30:46,877
you'll thank us later."
and that was what kind of
made me go back to california

996
00:30:46,879 --> 00:30:47,811
and that was what kind of
made me go back to california
and be like, "all right.

997
00:30:47,813 --> 00:30:49,513
Made me go back to california
and be like, "all right.
Let's, uh -- let's see maybe

998
00:30:49,515 --> 00:30:50,948
and be like, "all right.
Let's, uh -- let's see maybe
what this could be."

999
00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:52,783
let's, uh -- let's see maybe
what this could be."
and then we met in the --

1000
00:30:52,785 --> 00:30:55,452
what this could be."
and then we met in the --
in the final audition.

1001
00:30:55,454 --> 00:30:57,788
And then we met in the --
in the final audition.
And after we read, I was like,

1002
00:30:57,790 --> 00:30:59,489
in the final audition.
And after we read, I was like,
"okay, this is a show.

1003
00:30:59,491 --> 00:31:00,724
And after we read, I was like,
"okay, this is a show.
This is -- this is easily --"

1004
00:31:00,726 --> 00:31:02,226
"okay, this is a show.
This is -- this is easily --"
and it was the actual people

1005
00:31:02,228 --> 00:31:04,094
this is -- this is easily --"
and it was the actual people
who got cast -- like, this group

1006
00:31:04,096 --> 00:31:07,931
and it was the actual people
who got cast -- like, this group
right here -- me, tammy, kamil,

1007
00:31:07,933 --> 00:31:09,499
who got cast -- like, this group
right here -- me, tammy, kamil,
and z -- that's a family.

1008
00:31:09,501 --> 00:31:11,835
Right here -- me, tammy, kamil,
and z -- that's a family.
I buy that."

1009
00:31:11,837 --> 00:31:13,737
and z -- that's a family.
I buy that."
so, yeah.

1010
00:31:13,739 --> 00:31:15,739
I buy that."
so, yeah.
And then she became

1011
00:31:15,741 --> 00:31:19,776
so, yeah.
And then she became
my jasmine 2.0 without the,

1012
00:31:19,778 --> 00:31:21,245
and then she became
my jasmine 2.0 without the,
you know, "I got a crush on you"

1013
00:31:21,247 --> 00:31:22,012
my jasmine 2.0 without the,
you know, "I got a crush on you"
thing.

1014
00:31:22,014 --> 00:31:23,347
You know, "I got a crush on you"
thing.
Everything that happened

1015
00:31:23,349 --> 00:31:25,048
thing.
Everything that happened
30 years ago, I was standing in

1016
00:31:25,050 --> 00:31:28,151
everything that happened
30 years ago, I was standing in
front of again, but she was

1017
00:31:28,153 --> 00:31:31,021
30 years ago, I was standing in
front of again, but she was
more -- whereas jasmine might

1018
00:31:31,023 --> 00:31:33,657
front of again, but she was
more -- whereas jasmine might
have been more like my mom in

1019
00:31:33,659 --> 00:31:36,627
more -- whereas jasmine might
have been more like my mom in
her, you know, revolutionary,

1020
00:31:36,629 --> 00:31:40,564
have been more like my mom in
her, you know, revolutionary,
badass aggressiveness,

1021
00:31:40,566 --> 00:31:43,700
her, you know, revolutionary,
badass aggressiveness,
z was more like me and my dad.

1022
00:31:43,702 --> 00:31:44,968
Badass aggressiveness,
z was more like me and my dad.
And so we connected.

1023
00:31:44,970 --> 00:31:46,370
Z was more like me and my dad.
And so we connected.
Like, all she wanted to do

1024
00:31:46,372 --> 00:31:48,672
and so we connected.
Like, all she wanted to do
was find a spot to chill.

1025
00:31:48,674 --> 00:31:51,275
Like, all she wanted to do
was find a spot to chill.
And I was like, "wow."

1026
00:31:51,277 --> 00:31:53,010
was find a spot to chill.
And I was like, "wow."
so -- so we connected.

1027
00:31:53,012 --> 00:31:54,544
And I was like, "wow."
so -- so we connected.
We hit it off instantly.

1028
00:31:54,546 --> 00:31:56,880
So -- so we connected.
We hit it off instantly.
All of us -- like, tammy,

1029
00:31:56,882 --> 00:32:00,117
we hit it off instantly.
All of us -- like, tammy,
kamil, z, we felt like a family.

1030
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:02,319
All of us -- like, tammy,
kamil, z, we felt like a family.
Like -- and the kids.

1031
00:32:02,321 --> 00:32:03,587
Kamil, z, we felt like a family.
Like -- and the kids.
Tammy had her room.

1032
00:32:03,589 --> 00:32:04,788
Like -- and the kids.
Tammy had her room.
I had my room.

1033
00:32:04,790 --> 00:32:06,189
Tammy had her room.
I had my room.
The kids had their room.

1034
00:32:06,191 --> 00:32:06,990
I had my room.
The kids had their room.
But then their room

1035
00:32:06,992 --> 00:32:08,325
the kids had their room.
But then their room
became my room.

1036
00:32:08,327 --> 00:32:10,727
But then their room
became my room.
So we all hung out in my room

1037
00:32:10,729 --> 00:32:12,763
became my room.
So we all hung out in my room
and played video games and

1038
00:32:12,765 --> 00:32:13,397
so we all hung out in my room
and played video games and
watched netflix and just hung.

1039
00:32:20,972 --> 00:32:25,075
>> hardison: Right across the
street from the beverly center,
there was a record store.

1040
00:32:25,077 --> 00:32:26,076
Street from the beverly center,
there was a record store.
And I went in there one night

1041
00:32:26,078 --> 00:32:27,010
there was a record store.
And I went in there one night
after a clipper game

1042
00:32:27,012 --> 00:32:28,011
and I went in there one night
after a clipper game
or something like that.

1043
00:32:28,013 --> 00:32:29,680
After a clipper game
or something like that.
And I saw her picture

1044
00:32:29,682 --> 00:32:30,714
or something like that.
And I saw her picture
on an album cover, and I was

1045
00:32:30,716 --> 00:32:32,382
and I saw her picture
on an album cover, and I was
like, "wow!

1046
00:32:32,384 --> 00:32:33,951
On an album cover, and I was
like, "wow!
Who the hell is that?"

1047
00:32:33,953 --> 00:32:36,119
like, "wow!
Who the hell is that?"
and I turned around, and it

1048
00:32:36,121 --> 00:32:39,222
who the hell is that?"
and I turned around, and it
said, silas music group.

1049
00:32:39,224 --> 00:32:42,726
And I turned around, and it
said, silas music group.
And I sit next to little silas

1050
00:32:42,728 --> 00:32:44,061
said, silas music group.
And I sit next to little silas
at the clipper games

1051
00:32:44,063 --> 00:32:45,829
and I sit next to little silas
at the clipper games
twice a week.

1052
00:32:45,831 --> 00:32:46,730
At the clipper games
twice a week.
So I buy this album,

1053
00:32:46,732 --> 00:32:47,864
twice a week.
So I buy this album,
I listen to it -- "oh, my gosh.

1054
00:32:47,866 --> 00:32:49,266
So I buy this album,
I listen to it -- "oh, my gosh.
She's dope."

1055
00:32:49,268 --> 00:32:50,233
I listen to it -- "oh, my gosh.
She's dope."
so the next clipper game,

1056
00:32:50,235 --> 00:32:51,401
she's dope."
so the next clipper game,
I was like, hey, bro."

1057
00:32:51,403 --> 00:32:53,170
so the next clipper game,
I was like, hey, bro."
[ laughs ] -- "hey, this right

1058
00:32:53,172 --> 00:32:54,871
I was like, hey, bro."
[ laughs ] -- "hey, this right
here, yo, you gotta --

1059
00:32:54,873 --> 00:32:56,039
[ laughs ] -- "hey, this right
here, yo, you gotta --
you gotta hook me up.

1060
00:32:56,041 --> 00:32:56,873
Here, yo, you gotta --
you gotta hook me up.
I want to meet her."

1061
00:32:56,875 --> 00:32:58,775
you gotta hook me up.
I want to meet her."
he was like, "I can't do that."

1062
00:32:58,777 --> 00:33:00,077
I want to meet her."
he was like, "I can't do that."
couple of weeks after I asked

1063
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:02,479
he was like, "I can't do that."
couple of weeks after I asked
him, they asked me to present

1064
00:33:02,481 --> 00:33:04,548
couple of weeks after I asked
him, they asked me to present
at image awards

1065
00:33:04,550 --> 00:33:07,684
him, they asked me to present
at image awards
or some -- some award show.

1066
00:33:07,686 --> 00:33:09,553
At image awards
or some -- some award show.
When they asked me, I was like,

1067
00:33:09,555 --> 00:33:11,154
or some -- some award show.
When they asked me, I was like,
"man, I'm not so, uh --"

1068
00:33:11,156 --> 00:33:12,255
when they asked me, I was like,
"man, I'm not so, uh --"
and they was like, "yeah, you'll

1069
00:33:12,257 --> 00:33:13,390
"man, I'm not so, uh --"
and they was like, "yeah, you'll
be presenting with

1070
00:33:13,392 --> 00:33:15,926
and they was like, "yeah, you'll
be presenting with
chanté moore," and I was like,

1071
00:33:15,928 --> 00:33:18,562
be presenting with
chanté moore," and I was like,
"what? Yes.

1072
00:33:18,564 --> 00:33:20,097
Chanté moore," and I was like,
"what? Yes.
I'm in."

1073
00:33:20,099 --> 00:33:21,565
"what? Yes.
I'm in."
I remember I had a sports car at

1074
00:33:21,567 --> 00:33:22,599
I'm in."
I remember I had a sports car at
the time.

1075
00:33:22,601 --> 00:33:25,102
I remember I had a sports car at
the time.
I was probably, you know, 40,

1076
00:33:25,104 --> 00:33:26,370
the time.
I was probably, you know, 40,
50 minutes late

1077
00:33:26,372 --> 00:33:27,437
I was probably, you know, 40,
50 minutes late
for the joint,

1078
00:33:27,439 --> 00:33:29,272
50 minutes late
for the joint,
and it was raining.

1079
00:33:29,274 --> 00:33:31,408
For the joint,
and it was raining.
And I pull up in the car,

1080
00:33:31,410 --> 00:33:32,542
and it was raining.
And I pull up in the car,
and she's walking down

1081
00:33:32,544 --> 00:33:35,178
and I pull up in the car,
and she's walking down
the stairs to leave

1082
00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:36,880
and she's walking down
the stairs to leave
because I missed a rehearsal,

1083
00:33:36,882 --> 00:33:38,415
the stairs to leave
because I missed a rehearsal,
and I was like, "hey, hey!"

1084
00:33:38,417 --> 00:33:39,483
because I missed a rehearsal,
and I was like, "hey, hey!"
and I jumped out of the car.

1085
00:33:39,485 --> 00:33:40,751
And I was like, "hey, hey!"
and I jumped out of the car.
Don't even close the doors.

1086
00:33:40,753 --> 00:33:41,752
And I jumped out of the car.
Don't even close the doors.
Standing in the pouring rain

1087
00:33:41,754 --> 00:33:42,819
don't even close the doors.
Standing in the pouring rain
like, "yo, yo, please, let's go

1088
00:33:42,821 --> 00:33:43,687
standing in the pouring rain
like, "yo, yo, please, let's go
back, let's go back!

1089
00:33:43,689 --> 00:33:44,254
Like, "yo, yo, please, let's go
back, let's go back!
We got to rehearse.

1090
00:33:44,256 --> 00:33:45,122
Back, let's go back!
We got to rehearse.
We got to rehearse 'cause I

1091
00:33:45,124 --> 00:33:46,156
we got to rehearse.
We got to rehearse 'cause I
won't know what to do."

1092
00:33:46,158 --> 00:33:47,190
we got to rehearse 'cause I
won't know what to do."
and she was like, "it's fine.

1093
00:33:47,192 --> 00:33:48,225
Won't know what to do."
and she was like, "it's fine.
I'm gonna stand here, you stand

1094
00:33:48,227 --> 00:33:48,592
and she was like, "it's fine.
I'm gonna stand here, you stand
here.

1095
00:33:48,594 --> 00:33:49,359
I'm gonna stand here, you stand
here.
We're gonna walk to this,"

1096
00:33:49,361 --> 00:33:50,627
here.
We're gonna walk to this,"
and I was like, "yeah, but I got

1097
00:33:50,629 --> 00:33:51,428
we're gonna walk to this,"
and I was like, "yeah, but I got
to do it with you.

1098
00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:53,230
And I was like, "yeah, but I got
to do it with you.
I gotta see what it's like.

1099
00:33:53,232 --> 00:33:54,731
To do it with you.
I gotta see what it's like.
I won't be able to do it.

1100
00:33:54,733 --> 00:33:55,665
I gotta see what it's like.
I won't be able to do it.
Like, please come back."

1101
00:33:55,667 --> 00:33:56,833
I won't be able to do it.
Like, please come back."
and she thought, "okay.

1102
00:33:56,835 --> 00:33:58,769
Like, please come back."
and she thought, "okay.
He's kind of cute."

1103
00:33:58,771 --> 00:34:00,771
and she thought, "okay.
He's kind of cute."
I left my car in the street,

1104
00:34:00,773 --> 00:34:02,539
he's kind of cute."
I left my car in the street,
went back and rehearsed it with

1105
00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:04,841
I left my car in the street,
went back and rehearsed it with
her.

1106
00:34:04,843 --> 00:34:05,976
Went back and rehearsed it with
her.
When we did it, you know,

1107
00:34:05,978 --> 00:34:07,978
her.
When we did it, you know,
I got up, my moms was in town.

1108
00:34:07,980 --> 00:34:09,946
When we did it, you know,
I got up, my moms was in town.
[ laughing ]

1109
00:34:09,948 --> 00:34:13,617
I got up, my moms was in town.
[ laughing ]
and -- and after we presented,

1110
00:34:13,619 --> 00:34:15,152
[ laughing ]
and -- and after we presented,
you know, I took her by the hand

1111
00:34:15,154 --> 00:34:16,887
and -- and after we presented,
you know, I took her by the hand
and led her off the stage,

1112
00:34:16,889 --> 00:34:18,188
you know, I took her by the hand
and led her off the stage,
and I didn't let go of her hand,

1113
00:34:18,190 --> 00:34:19,489
and led her off the stage,
and I didn't let go of her hand,
like, the whole night.

1114
00:34:19,491 --> 00:34:21,358
And I didn't let go of her hand,
like, the whole night.
And I just held her like,

1115
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,261
like, the whole night.
And I just held her like,
"mnh-mnh. Mnh-mnh."

1116
00:34:24,263 --> 00:34:26,096
and I just held her like,
"mnh-mnh. Mnh-mnh."
it was just like one of those,

1117
00:34:26,098 --> 00:34:27,397
"mnh-mnh. Mnh-mnh."
it was just like one of those,
you know, perfect nights

1118
00:34:27,399 --> 00:34:29,099
it was just like one of those,
you know, perfect nights
of -- of a guy

1119
00:34:29,101 --> 00:34:31,001
you know, perfect nights
of -- of a guy
trying to chase a girl.

1120
00:34:31,003 --> 00:34:34,171
Of -- of a guy
trying to chase a girl.
♪

1121
00:34:34,173 --> 00:34:36,573
trying to chase a girl.
♪
growing up how I did, the one

1122
00:34:36,575 --> 00:34:38,842
♪
growing up how I did, the one
thing I knew was that I wanted

1123
00:34:38,844 --> 00:34:40,610
growing up how I did, the one
thing I knew was that I wanted
to be in the house

1124
00:34:40,612 --> 00:34:43,080
thing I knew was that I wanted
to be in the house
with my kid all the time.

1125
00:34:43,082 --> 00:34:46,583
To be in the house
with my kid all the time.
I kind of knew from my mother

1126
00:34:46,585 --> 00:34:47,384
with my kid all the time.
I kind of knew from my mother
and my father

1127
00:34:47,386 --> 00:34:48,919
I kind of knew from my mother
and my father
and from the people around me

1128
00:34:48,921 --> 00:34:50,120
and my father
and from the people around me
that I grew up with,

1129
00:34:50,122 --> 00:34:51,888
and from the people around me
that I grew up with,
I wasn't the marrying kind.

1130
00:34:51,890 --> 00:34:53,190
That I grew up with,
I wasn't the marrying kind.
I just knew that all my friends

1131
00:34:53,192 --> 00:34:54,491
I wasn't the marrying kind.
I just knew that all my friends
who got married got divorced,

1132
00:34:54,493 --> 00:34:56,626
I just knew that all my friends
who got married got divorced,
and they didn't talk anymore.

1133
00:34:56,628 --> 00:34:57,794
Who got married got divorced,
and they didn't talk anymore.
And I was like, "well, okay.

1134
00:34:57,796 --> 00:34:59,830
And they didn't talk anymore.
And I was like, "well, okay.
So I'm not gonna get married

1135
00:34:59,832 --> 00:35:00,931
and I was like, "well, okay.
So I'm not gonna get married
because then I will have to get

1136
00:35:00,933 --> 00:35:02,966
so I'm not gonna get married
because then I will have to get
divorced, and we can still

1137
00:35:02,968 --> 00:35:06,937
because then I will have to get
divorced, and we can still
always be cool."

1138
00:35:06,939 --> 00:35:07,704
divorced, and we can still
always be cool."
so, yeah.

1139
00:35:07,706 --> 00:35:09,239
Always be cool."
so, yeah.
So I wanted to make sure sophia

1140
00:35:09,241 --> 00:35:11,908
so, yeah.
So I wanted to make sure sophia
was -- always had me present

1141
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:13,210
so I wanted to make sure sophia
was -- always had me present
because I didn't have my father

1142
00:35:13,212 --> 00:35:14,578
was -- always had me present
because I didn't have my father
always present.

1143
00:35:14,580 --> 00:35:16,580
Because I didn't have my father
always present.
And I don't know how much

1144
00:35:16,582 --> 00:35:18,648
always present.
And I don't know how much
I missed out on, you know,

1145
00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:20,083
and I don't know how much
I missed out on, you know,
I mean, like I turned out

1146
00:35:20,085 --> 00:35:22,219
I missed out on, you know,
I mean, like I turned out
a'ight, so I'm kind of not

1147
00:35:22,221 --> 00:35:23,420
I mean, like I turned out
a'ight, so I'm kind of not
blaming nobody for nothing,

1148
00:35:23,422 --> 00:35:24,354
a'ight, so I'm kind of not
blaming nobody for nothing,
but I was like, "this is what

1149
00:35:24,356 --> 00:35:26,189
blaming nobody for nothing,
but I was like, "this is what
I would do different."

1150
00:35:26,191 --> 00:35:27,591
but I was like, "this is what
I would do different."
and I'm always gonna push her

1151
00:35:27,593 --> 00:35:28,925
I would do different."
and I'm always gonna push her
towards anything.

1152
00:35:28,927 --> 00:35:30,894
And I'm always gonna push her
towards anything.
I'm gonna tell her from the time

1153
00:35:30,896 --> 00:35:33,930
towards anything.
I'm gonna tell her from the time
she can understand english,

1154
00:35:33,932 --> 00:35:36,066
I'm gonna tell her from the time
she can understand english,
figure out what you love,

1155
00:35:36,068 --> 00:35:38,201
she can understand english,
figure out what you love,
and turn that into your

1156
00:35:38,203 --> 00:35:39,870
figure out what you love,
and turn that into your
profession or your job,

1157
00:35:39,872 --> 00:35:40,670
and turn that into your
profession or your job,
and you'll never feel like

1158
00:35:40,672 --> 00:35:42,072
profession or your job,
and you'll never feel like
you're working.

1159
00:35:42,074 --> 00:35:46,209
And you'll never feel like
you're working.
♪

1160
00:35:46,211 --> 00:35:46,910
you're working.
♪
so, yeah.

1161
00:35:46,912 --> 00:35:48,512
♪
so, yeah.
So chanté and I, we got to a

1162
00:35:48,514 --> 00:35:49,946
so, yeah.
So chanté and I, we got to a
point where it was like,

1163
00:35:49,948 --> 00:35:52,749
so chanté and I, we got to a
point where it was like,
"this is -- you know, it's not

1164
00:35:52,751 --> 00:35:54,618
point where it was like,
"this is -- you know, it's not
working, so..."

1165
00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:56,119
"this is -- you know, it's not
working, so..."
and that was hard for me

1166
00:35:56,121 --> 00:35:58,522
working, so..."
and that was hard for me
because now that meant sophia

1167
00:35:58,524 --> 00:36:01,057
and that was hard for me
because now that meant sophia
was gonna have two houses.

1168
00:36:01,059 --> 00:36:01,992
Because now that meant sophia
was gonna have two houses.
And the one thing I wanted

1169
00:36:01,994 --> 00:36:03,493
was gonna have two houses.
And the one thing I wanted
for sure was that, you know,

1170
00:36:03,495 --> 00:36:04,661
and the one thing I wanted
for sure was that, you know,
she'd always be with me

1171
00:36:04,663 --> 00:36:07,731
for sure was that, you know,
she'd always be with me
or have me.

1172
00:36:07,733 --> 00:36:10,500
She'd always be with me
or have me.
But me and chanté is so good

1173
00:36:10,502 --> 00:36:15,105
or have me.
But me and chanté is so good
that we share, like, willingly.

1174
00:36:15,107 --> 00:36:16,540
But me and chanté is so good
that we share, like, willingly.
And one thing my father told me

1175
00:36:16,542 --> 00:36:19,943
that we share, like, willingly.
And one thing my father told me
was, "whatever happens,

1176
00:36:19,945 --> 00:36:21,344
and one thing my father told me
was, "whatever happens,
be the bigger man.

1177
00:36:21,346 --> 00:36:22,712
Was, "whatever happens,
be the bigger man.
Be the nice guy.

1178
00:36:22,714 --> 00:36:24,714
Be the bigger man.
Be the nice guy.
Don't let your daughter hear you

1179
00:36:24,716 --> 00:36:28,151
be the nice guy.
Don't let your daughter hear you
talk about her mother bad."

1180
00:36:28,153 --> 00:36:29,519
don't let your daughter hear you
talk about her mother bad."
you know, "if she got something

1181
00:36:29,521 --> 00:36:32,122
talk about her mother bad."
you know, "if she got something
bad to say, say, 'oh, really?

1182
00:36:32,124 --> 00:36:34,391
You know, "if she got something
bad to say, say, 'oh, really?
Really? Tell me more.'

1183
00:36:34,393 --> 00:36:35,325
bad to say, say, 'oh, really?
Really? Tell me more.'
if she doesn't understand

1184
00:36:35,327 --> 00:36:38,228
really? Tell me more.'
if she doesn't understand
something, let her vent to you,

1185
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:40,096
if she doesn't understand
something, let her vent to you,
but don't you chime in with,

1186
00:36:40,098 --> 00:36:42,299
something, let her vent to you,
but don't you chime in with,
'yeah, she made me so mad.

1187
00:36:42,301 --> 00:36:43,300
But don't you chime in with,
'yeah, she made me so mad.
Yo, I hate her, but --'"

1188
00:36:43,302 --> 00:36:45,268
'yeah, she made me so mad.
Yo, I hate her, but --'"
no. And him knowing me

1189
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:46,570
yo, I hate her, but --'"
no. And him knowing me
the way he does,

1190
00:36:46,572 --> 00:36:49,339
no. And him knowing me
the way he does,
I knew that that would be easy.

1191
00:36:49,341 --> 00:36:50,207
The way he does,
I knew that that would be easy.
You know what I mean?

1192
00:36:50,209 --> 00:36:51,775
I knew that that would be easy.
You know what I mean?
That wouldn't be a chore at all.

1193
00:36:51,777 --> 00:36:53,243
You know what I mean?
That wouldn't be a chore at all.
That wouldn't be a job.

1194
00:36:53,245 --> 00:36:55,412
That wouldn't be a chore at all.
That wouldn't be a job.
I was like, "oh, that's

1195
00:36:55,414 --> 00:36:57,180
that wouldn't be a job.
I was like, "oh, that's
a nice one right there.

1196
00:36:57,182 --> 00:36:59,149
I was like, "oh, that's
a nice one right there.
I can easily do that."

1197
00:36:59,151 --> 00:37:02,219
a nice one right there.
I can easily do that."
so yeah, once it was --

1198
00:37:02,221 --> 00:37:04,988
I can easily do that."
so yeah, once it was --
you know, once we we parted,

1199
00:37:04,990 --> 00:37:06,556
so yeah, once it was --
you know, once we we parted,
my big fear was that, you know,

1200
00:37:06,558 --> 00:37:07,991
you know, once we we parted,
my big fear was that, you know,
she wouldn't have me around

1201
00:37:07,993 --> 00:37:09,859
my big fear was that, you know,
she wouldn't have me around
to -- all of that.

1202
00:37:09,861 --> 00:37:15,966
She wouldn't have me around
to -- all of that.
But you realize that whatever is

1203
00:37:15,968 --> 00:37:18,001
to -- all of that.
But you realize that whatever is
of the moment is what kids do.

1204
00:37:18,003 --> 00:37:20,870
But you realize that whatever is
of the moment is what kids do.
They are in the moment.

1205
00:37:20,872 --> 00:37:22,038
Of the moment is what kids do.
They are in the moment.
So it's not like, "oh,

1206
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,506
they are in the moment.
So it's not like, "oh,
I wish I was over here.

1207
00:37:23,508 --> 00:37:25,208
So it's not like, "oh,
I wish I was over here.
I wish this or I wish that."

1208
00:37:25,210 --> 00:37:26,643
I wish I was over here.
I wish this or I wish that."
this is your life,

1209
00:37:26,645 --> 00:37:27,711
I wish this or I wish that."
this is your life,
and it's not like you've had

1210
00:37:27,713 --> 00:37:30,480
this is your life,
and it's not like you've had
another life to compare it to.

1211
00:37:30,482 --> 00:37:31,348
And it's not like you've had
another life to compare it to.
So it took me a minute

1212
00:37:31,350 --> 00:37:33,917
another life to compare it to.
So it took me a minute
to kind of come to grips

1213
00:37:33,919 --> 00:37:35,218
so it took me a minute
to kind of come to grips
with, "it's gonna be

1214
00:37:35,220 --> 00:37:36,319
to kind of come to grips
with, "it's gonna be
what it's gonna be,

1215
00:37:36,321 --> 00:37:37,687
with, "it's gonna be
what it's gonna be,
and she's gonna be all right

1216
00:37:37,689 --> 00:37:39,422
what it's gonna be,
and she's gonna be all right
because she got two people

1217
00:37:39,424 --> 00:37:41,524
and she's gonna be all right
because she got two people
that support her and

1218
00:37:41,526 --> 00:37:42,058
because she got two people
that support her and
and go to bat for her."

1219
00:37:47,365 --> 00:37:48,331
>> biggest influence

1220
00:37:48,466 --> 00:37:50,267
for the culture, black men --

1221
00:37:50,401 --> 00:37:50,900
fresh prince or dwayne wayne?

1222
00:37:54,005 --> 00:37:56,673
It's an argument people are
having.
>> hardison: [ laughing ] that's

1223
00:37:56,675 --> 00:37:57,540
having.
>> hardison: [ laughing ] that's
not an argument.

1224
00:37:57,542 --> 00:37:59,209
>> hardison: [ laughing ] that's
not an argument.
That's not an argument.

1225
00:37:59,211 --> 00:38:00,043
Not an argument.
That's not an argument.
Stop joking.

1226
00:38:00,045 --> 00:38:01,378
That's not an argument.
Stop joking.
>> no, it's real.

1227
00:38:01,380 --> 00:38:02,579
Stop joking.
>> no, it's real.
>> hardison: As a -- as an

1228
00:38:02,581 --> 00:38:06,583
>> no, it's real.
>> hardison: As a -- as an
influence on men,

1229
00:38:06,585 --> 00:38:07,751
>> hardison: As a -- as an
influence on men,
it's not even close.

1230
00:38:07,753 --> 00:38:10,553
Influence on men,
it's not even close.
Like, dwayne wayne was much more

1231
00:38:10,555 --> 00:38:12,789
it's not even close.
Like, dwayne wayne was much more
of a rounded character.

1232
00:38:12,791 --> 00:38:16,359
Like, dwayne wayne was much more
of a rounded character.
He started out at the bottom,

1233
00:38:16,361 --> 00:38:18,662
of a rounded character.
He started out at the bottom,
as a geeky freshman,

1234
00:38:18,664 --> 00:38:20,730
he started out at the bottom,
as a geeky freshman,
chasing anybody that --

1235
00:38:20,732 --> 00:38:22,499
as a geeky freshman,
chasing anybody that --
that he saw.

1236
00:38:22,501 --> 00:38:24,000
Chasing anybody that --
that he saw.
And then he rounded into

1237
00:38:24,002 --> 00:38:27,304
that he saw.
And then he rounded into
this dude who was a teacher,

1238
00:38:27,306 --> 00:38:29,039
and then he rounded into
this dude who was a teacher,
was a husband,

1239
00:38:29,041 --> 00:38:30,540
this dude who was a teacher,
was a husband,
eventually gonna be a father.

1240
00:38:30,542 --> 00:38:33,543
Was a husband,
eventually gonna be a father.
Like, I don't think that

1241
00:38:33,545 --> 00:38:35,845
eventually gonna be a father.
Like, I don't think that
fresh prince really did that.

1242
00:38:35,847 --> 00:38:38,415
Like, I don't think that
fresh prince really did that.
Like, he had moments -- or the

1243
00:38:38,417 --> 00:38:40,617
fresh prince really did that.
Like, he had moments -- or the
moment, which was his dad.

1244
00:38:40,619 --> 00:38:41,551
Like, he had moments -- or the
moment, which was his dad.
Like, "why don't he --

1245
00:38:41,553 --> 00:38:42,852
moment, which was his dad.
Like, "why don't he --
why don't he want me?"

1246
00:38:42,854 --> 00:38:44,321
like, "why don't he --
why don't he want me?"
that was the moment

1247
00:38:44,323 --> 00:38:46,089
why don't he want me?"
that was the moment
that we really got to see

1248
00:38:46,091 --> 00:38:50,360
that was the moment
that we really got to see
some depth in the character.

1249
00:38:50,362 --> 00:38:51,494
That we really got to see
some depth in the character.
But other than that, it was --

1250
00:38:51,496 --> 00:38:52,228
some depth in the character.
But other than that, it was --
it was -- you know,

1251
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:53,997
but other than that, it was --
it was -- you know,
he was about some good times

1252
00:38:53,999 --> 00:38:55,298
it was -- you know,
he was about some good times
and some jokes,

1253
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:58,335
he was about some good times
and some jokes,
which was perfect because we had

1254
00:38:58,337 --> 00:38:59,602
and some jokes,
which was perfect because we had
the other with the balance.

1255
00:38:59,604 --> 00:39:04,240
Which was perfect because we had
the other with the balance.
We had the balance of dwayne.

1256
00:39:04,242 --> 00:39:05,975
The other with the balance.
We had the balance of dwayne.
Yeah. You got to be joking.

1257
00:39:05,977 --> 00:39:06,309
We had the balance of dwayne.
Yeah. You got to be joking.
[ laughing ]

1258
00:39:09,530 --> 00:39:18,438
♪
>> hardison: My most
career-defining moment.

1259
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,975
>> hardison: My most
career-defining moment.
It's hard to sat anything

1260
00:39:21,977 --> 00:39:23,676
career-defining moment.
It's hard to sat anything
other than "a different world"

1261
00:39:23,678 --> 00:39:27,313
it's hard to sat anything
other than "a different world"
because of...

1262
00:39:27,315 --> 00:39:28,415
Other than "a different world"
because of...
That's the one people

1263
00:39:28,417 --> 00:39:30,116
because of...
That's the one people
are still talking about.

1264
00:39:30,118 --> 00:39:33,987
That's the one people
are still talking about.
You know, in 1990 -- 1990, maybe

1265
00:39:33,989 --> 00:39:34,988
are still talking about.
You know, in 1990 -- 1990, maybe
I was tired of people saying,

1266
00:39:34,990 --> 00:39:36,056
you know, in 1990 -- 1990, maybe
I was tired of people saying,
"hey, dwayne, dwayne!"

1267
00:39:36,058 --> 00:39:37,323
I was tired of people saying,
"hey, dwayne, dwayne!"
I was like, "yo, my name is

1268
00:39:37,325 --> 00:39:38,491
"hey, dwayne, dwayne!"
I was like, "yo, my name is
kadeem, and I'm an actor.

1269
00:39:38,493 --> 00:39:39,692
I was like, "yo, my name is
kadeem, and I'm an actor.
You have to call me by my --"

1270
00:39:39,694 --> 00:39:41,161
kadeem, and I'm an actor.
You have to call me by my --"
no. You know, you go through

1271
00:39:41,163 --> 00:39:42,829
you have to call me by my --"
no. You know, you go through
that struggle.

1272
00:39:42,831 --> 00:39:47,767
No. You know, you go through
that struggle.
But in terms of acting, uh...

1273
00:39:47,769 --> 00:39:51,037
That struggle.
But in terms of acting, uh...
Yeah, you know, I don't think

1274
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:53,073
but in terms of acting, uh...
Yeah, you know, I don't think
I've done my best yet.

1275
00:39:53,075 --> 00:39:54,674
Yeah, you know, I don't think
I've done my best yet.
Yeah, I always want

1276
00:39:54,676 --> 00:39:56,876
I've done my best yet.
Yeah, I always want
to try something different.

1277
00:39:56,878 --> 00:40:00,480
Yeah, I always want
to try something different.
Like, before "rush hour,"

1278
00:40:00,482 --> 00:40:02,849
to try something different.
Like, before "rush hour,"
we were able to do "drive,"

1279
00:40:02,851 --> 00:40:05,919
like, before "rush hour,"
we were able to do "drive,"
which then inspired "rush hour."

1280
00:40:05,921 --> 00:40:07,587
we were able to do "drive,"
which then inspired "rush hour."
and they just got jackie chan

1281
00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:08,888
which then inspired "rush hour."
and they just got jackie chan
and chris tucker,

1282
00:40:08,890 --> 00:40:10,690
and they just got jackie chan
and chris tucker,
which were, you know, the names

1283
00:40:10,692 --> 00:40:11,791
and chris tucker,
which were, you know, the names
that you can -- the biggest

1284
00:40:11,793 --> 00:40:13,359
which were, you know, the names
that you can -- the biggest
names you could get at the time

1285
00:40:13,361 --> 00:40:14,761
that you can -- the biggest
names you could get at the time
to do kind of what we did

1286
00:40:14,763 --> 00:40:16,563
names you could get at the time
to do kind of what we did
a couple of years before.

1287
00:40:16,565 --> 00:40:17,330
To do kind of what we did
a couple of years before.
I like that whole

1288
00:40:17,332 --> 00:40:18,531
a couple of years before.
I like that whole
jackie robinson, you know,

1289
00:40:18,533 --> 00:40:20,100
I like that whole
jackie robinson, you know,
get out there, swing, baby,

1290
00:40:20,102 --> 00:40:21,267
jackie robinson, you know,
get out there, swing, baby,
fall on your face,

1291
00:40:21,269 --> 00:40:22,802
get out there, swing, baby,
fall on your face,
get up and try again

1292
00:40:22,804 --> 00:40:23,837
fall on your face,
get up and try again
and keep swinging to you're

1293
00:40:23,839 --> 00:40:25,472
get up and try again
and keep swinging to you're
there.

1294
00:40:25,474 --> 00:40:27,974
And keep swinging to you're
there.
[ camera shutter clicks ]

1295
00:40:27,976 --> 00:40:30,743
there.
[ camera shutter clicks ]
I'm perfectly happy being less

1296
00:40:30,745 --> 00:40:32,779
[ camera shutter clicks ]
I'm perfectly happy being less
famous, more comfortable,

1297
00:40:32,781 --> 00:40:34,948
I'm perfectly happy being less
famous, more comfortable,
and working consistently

1298
00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:36,683
famous, more comfortable,
and working consistently
than being more famous,

1299
00:40:36,685 --> 00:40:39,285
and working consistently
than being more famous,
more sought after, and,

1300
00:40:39,287 --> 00:40:41,588
than being more famous,
more sought after, and,
you know, maybe a little richer.

1301
00:40:41,590 --> 00:40:44,157
More sought after, and,
you know, maybe a little richer.
But...

1302
00:40:44,159 --> 00:40:45,558
You know, maybe a little richer.
But...
I like being able to pick

1303
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,659
but...
I like being able to pick
the stuff I want to do

1304
00:40:46,661 --> 00:40:48,128
I like being able to pick
the stuff I want to do
because I want to do it.

1305
00:40:48,130 --> 00:40:51,431
The stuff I want to do
because I want to do it.
Michael jordan, his contract,

1306
00:40:51,433 --> 00:40:53,766
because I want to do it.
Michael jordan, his contract,
he had put in a "love of the

1307
00:40:53,768 --> 00:40:55,401
michael jordan, his contract,
he had put in a "love of the
game" clause,

1308
00:40:55,403 --> 00:40:57,837
he had put in a "love of the
game" clause,
which meant any playground,

1309
00:40:57,839 --> 00:41:00,473
game" clause,
which meant any playground,
any gym, anywhere he wanted to

1310
00:41:00,475 --> 00:41:02,642
which meant any playground,
any gym, anywhere he wanted to
stop and play basketball,

1311
00:41:02,644 --> 00:41:04,677
any gym, anywhere he wanted to
stop and play basketball,
he could play basketball.

1312
00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:05,445
Stop and play basketball,
he could play basketball.
When I heard that,

1313
00:41:05,447 --> 00:41:07,680
he could play basketball.
When I heard that,
when I learned that,

1314
00:41:07,682 --> 00:41:09,349
when I heard that,
when I learned that,
I was impressed that

1315
00:41:09,351 --> 00:41:10,650
when I learned that,
I was impressed that
he would risk it.

1316
00:41:10,652 --> 00:41:11,784
I was impressed that
he would risk it.
But, yeah, I love that "love

1317
00:41:11,786 --> 00:41:12,252
he would risk it.
But, yeah, I love that "love
of the game" clause.

1318
00:41:13,487 --> 00:41:14,721
So when I get something,

1319
00:41:14,855 --> 00:41:16,055
if I like it,

1320
00:41:16,190 --> 00:41:17,824
if I like enough of it,

1321
00:41:17,958 --> 00:41:19,926
I want to do it regardless

1322
00:41:20,060 --> 00:41:22,295
if it's the best part or the --

1323
00:41:22,429 --> 00:41:25,098
the most lines or the most

1324
00:41:25,232 --> 00:41:28,868
likable or the most despicable.

1325
00:41:29,003 --> 00:41:30,069
If I want to be involved in the

1326
00:41:30,204 --> 00:41:31,271
whole thing 'cause I think it's

1327
00:41:31,405 --> 00:41:32,305
a good piece, I want to be

1328
00:41:32,439 --> 00:41:34,874
involved in the whole piece.

1329
00:41:35,009 --> 00:41:36,309
If they don't have all the money

1330
00:41:36,443 --> 00:41:37,977
or they have half, whatever.

1331
00:41:38,112 --> 00:41:40,613
Just I want to be able to do

1332
00:41:40,748 --> 00:41:41,381
what I want to do

1333
00:41:41,515 --> 00:41:41,881
when I want to do it.