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>> pulliam: I booked my first
job at nine months old
and pretty much

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job at nine months old
and pretty much
have been working ever since.

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And pretty much
have been working ever since.
But I think the funny thing

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have been working ever since.
But I think the funny thing
is, I feel like people

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but I think the funny thing
is, I feel like people
would think, because of that,

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is, I feel like people
would think, because of that,
that I grew up and had

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would think, because of that,
that I grew up and had
this, like, entitled life with

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that I grew up and had
this, like, entitled life with
the silver spoon in my mouth

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this, like, entitled life with
the silver spoon in my mouth
and, you know, all of this.

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The silver spoon in my mouth
and, you know, all of this.
But it's really not the case.

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And, you know, all of this.
But it's really not the case.
I was just the oldest daughter

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but it's really not the case.
I was just the oldest daughter
of james and denise pulliam.

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I was just the oldest daughter
of james and denise pulliam.
Like, I was no different

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of james and denise pulliam.
Like, I was no different
when I came home.

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Like, I was no different
when I came home.
Your life is a culmination of

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when I came home.
Your life is a culmination of
the experiences that you've had.

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Your life is a culmination of
the experiences that you've had.
I had a very unique

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the experiences that you've had.
I had a very unique
and different childhood,

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I had a very unique
and different childhood,
but it was the only childhood

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and different childhood,
but it was the only childhood
I knew.

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But it was the only childhood
I knew.
I've had an amazing,

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I knew.
I've had an amazing,
amazing life.

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I've had an amazing,
amazing life.
And I am grateful for every

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amazing life.
And I am grateful for every
opportunity and every experience

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and I am grateful for every
opportunity and every experience
because what I know is,

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opportunity and every experience
because what I know is,
every experience has crafted me

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because what I know is,
every experience has crafted me
into the woman that I am today.

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Every experience has crafted me
into the woman that I am today.
You know, sometimes it's

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into the woman that I am today.
You know, sometimes it's
a little more challenging

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you know, sometimes it's
a little more challenging
to lean in than others.

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A little more challenging
to lean in than others.
But ultimately,

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to lean in than others.
But ultimately,
I'm an eternal optimist,

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but ultimately,
I'm an eternal optimist,
and I know that what's for me is

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I'm an eternal optimist,
and I know that what's for me is
for me and has never missed me

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and I know that what's for me is
for me and has never missed me
and will never miss me.

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For me and has never missed me
and will never miss me.
So just joy and peace

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and will never miss me.
So just joy and peace
and freedom

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so just joy and peace
and freedom
are the most precious

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and freedom
are the most precious
and valuable things to me.

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Are the most precious
and valuable things to me.
I mean, don't get me wrong,

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and valuable things to me.
I mean, don't get me wrong,
like, I love nice

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I mean, don't get me wrong,
like, I love nice
things and all of that,

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like, I love nice
things and all of that,
but those aren't the measure

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things and all of that,
but those aren't the measure
of my success

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but those aren't the measure
of my success
as a human being, for me.

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the principles that my family
are guided by never changed.
Okay, yeah, we may have moved

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are guided by never changed.
Okay, yeah, we may have moved
to a different neighborhood.

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Okay, yeah, we may have moved
to a different neighborhood.
Our house

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to a different neighborhood.
Our house
may be a little bigger,

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our house
may be a little bigger,
but in terms of the values

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may be a little bigger,
but in terms of the values
of integrity,

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but in terms of the values
of integrity,
the values of hard work,

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of integrity,
the values of hard work,
the value of education,

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the values of hard work,
the value of education,
that never wavered.

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The value of education,
that never wavered.
You know, my mom got pregnant

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that never wavered.
You know, my mom got pregnant
with me when she was in college

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you know, my mom got pregnant
with me when she was in college
and, as a result, didn't finish.

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With me when she was in college
and, as a result, didn't finish.
And my father didn't, either.

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And, as a result, didn't finish.
And my father didn't, either.
He was a marine, came out of

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and my father didn't, either.
He was a marine, came out of
the marines, was in college.

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He was a marine, came out of
the marines, was in college.
My parents got pregnant with me.

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The marines, was in college.
My parents got pregnant with me.
So it was always important

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my parents got pregnant with me.
So it was always important
for me and my brothers to really

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so it was always important
for me and my brothers to really
build on that family legacy

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for me and my brothers to really
build on that family legacy
and ensure that not only

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build on that family legacy
and ensure that not only
did we all go to college,

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and ensure that not only
did we all go to college,
but we also graduated.

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Did we all go to college,
but we also graduated.
So I'm

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but we also graduated.
So I'm
a spelman college graduate.

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So I'm
a spelman college graduate.
My brother under me

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a spelman college graduate.
My brother under me
is morehouse college.

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My brother under me
is morehouse college.
We have auburn university,

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is morehouse college.
We have auburn university,
and then we have morehouse

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we have auburn university,
and then we have morehouse
my baby brother graduated from.

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And then we have morehouse
my baby brother graduated from.
So not only has college

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my baby brother graduated from.
So not only has college
become a legacy in our family,

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so not only has college
become a legacy in our family,
but hbcus, as well.

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Become a legacy in our family,
but hbcus, as well.
I was just this friendly,

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but hbcus, as well.
I was just this friendly,
smiley, laugh-y,

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I was just this friendly,
smiley, laugh-y,
bubbly, cute baby

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smiley, laugh-y,
bubbly, cute baby
who had never met a stranger.

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Bubbly, cute baby
who had never met a stranger.
I'm from new jersey originally,

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who had never met a stranger.
I'm from new jersey originally,
and we would go across

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I'm from new jersey originally,
and we would go across
on the train,

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and we would go across
on the train,
and it was simply a hobby.

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On the train,
and it was simply a hobby.
Her sending my picture --

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and it was simply a hobby.
Her sending my picture --
shirley grant.

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Her sending my picture --
shirley grant.
She was a management agency

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shirley grant.
She was a management agency
out of teaneck, new jersey.

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She was a management agency
out of teaneck, new jersey.
It was my first agent.

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Out of teaneck, new jersey.
It was my first agent.
I booked my first job

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it was my first agent.
I booked my first job
at nine months old.

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I booked my first job
at nine months old.
It was a print ad for

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at nine months old.
It was a print ad for
johnson & johnson baby products.

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It was a print ad for
johnson & johnson baby products.
It's, like, one of the group

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johnson & johnson baby products.
It's, like, one of the group
of the first they did with

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it's, like, one of the group
of the first they did with
african-american parents

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of the first they did with
african-american parents
and baby.

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African-american parents
and baby.
You'd think the '70s --

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and baby.
You'd think the '70s --
it was, like, maybe '80, '79

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you'd think the '70s --
it was, like, maybe '80, '79
at the time --

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it was, like, maybe '80, '79
at the time --
wasn't that long ago.

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At the time --
wasn't that long ago.
But, yeah, we were among --

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wasn't that long ago.
But, yeah, we were among --
among the first that they were

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but, yeah, we were among --
among the first that they were
using people who looked like us.

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Among the first that they were
using people who looked like us.
From there, it just kept going.

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Using people who looked like us.
From there, it just kept going.
It was commercials.

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From there, it just kept going.
It was commercials.
It was "sesame street."

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it was commercials.
It was "sesame street."
it was "the last dragon."

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it was "sesame street."
it was "the last dragon."
and where the producers

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it was "the last dragon."
and where the producers
of "the cosby show" saw me

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and where the producers
of "the cosby show" saw me
was a del monte corn commercial,

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of "the cosby show" saw me
was a del monte corn commercial,
was a national commercial that

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was a del monte corn commercial,
was a national commercial that
I did when I was about 3.

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Was a national commercial that
I did when I was about 3.
I think it's funny because,

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I did when I was about 3.
I think it's funny because,
like, being from new jersey --

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I think it's funny because,
like, being from new jersey --
I was born in newark,

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like, being from new jersey --
I was born in newark,
new jersey.

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I was born in newark,
new jersey.
I grew up in irvington.

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New jersey.
I grew up in irvington.
My grandmother, my mom's mom,

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I grew up in irvington.
My grandmother, my mom's mom,
owned a three-family home,

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my grandmother, my mom's mom,
owned a three-family home,
and my grandmother

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owned a three-family home,
and my grandmother
lived on the first floor.

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And my grandmother
lived on the first floor.
We lived on the second floor.

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Lived on the first floor.
We lived on the second floor.
So, you know, that was our life.

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We lived on the second floor.
So, you know, that was our life.
And when I'm on

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so, you know, that was our life.
And when I'm on
"the cosby show," this,

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and when I'm on
"the cosby show," this,
you know, number-one show,

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"the cosby show," this,
you know, number-one show,
you know, we come --

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you know, number-one show,
you know, we come --
I come from a real black family,

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you know, we come --
I come from a real black family,
like, where you go

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I come from a real black family,
like, where you go
to your grandmother's house,

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like, where you go
to your grandmother's house,
your great-grandmother's house

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to your grandmother's house,
your great-grandmother's house
to -- for the weekends

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your great-grandmother's house
to -- for the weekends
to get babysat or what have you.

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To -- for the weekends
to get babysat or what have you.
So I have the random duality

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to get babysat or what have you.
So I have the random duality
of you can't ride your bike

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so I have the random duality
of you can't ride your bike
to the corner because it may

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of you can't ride your bike
to the corner because it may
get stolen and being on the

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to the corner because it may
get stolen and being on the
number-one show.

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Get stolen and being on the
number-one show.
What I tell people is

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number-one show.
What I tell people is
it only takes one "yes."

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what I tell people is
it only takes one "yes."
so I'd auditioned for

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it only takes one "yes."
so I'd auditioned for
"punky brewster,"

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so I'd auditioned for
"punky brewster,"
and I was too young,

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"punky brewster,"
and I was too young,
but we never looked at it like,

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and I was too young,
but we never looked at it like,
"oh, you didn't get the job."

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but we never looked at it like,
"oh, you didn't get the job."
like, that wasn't the discussion

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"oh, you didn't get the job."
like, that wasn't the discussion
in our house.

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Like, that wasn't the discussion
in our house.
It was, "okay, on to the next.

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In our house.
It was, "okay, on to the next.
We do this. It's fun.

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It was, "okay, on to the next.
We do this. It's fun.
It happens, it happens.

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We do this. It's fun.
It happens, it happens.
It doesn't, it doesn't."

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it happens, it happens.
It doesn't, it doesn't."
and the funny thing is, that's

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it doesn't, it doesn't."
and the funny thing is, that's
still very much the energy

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and the funny thing is, that's
still very much the energy
which I approach it with now.

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Still very much the energy
which I approach it with now.
First of all, an audition isn't

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which I approach it with now.
First of all, an audition isn't
the measure of my abilities

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first of all, an audition isn't
the measure of my abilities
and my talents.

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The measure of my abilities
and my talents.
And again,

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and my talents.
And again,
what I found in this business,

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and again,
what I found in this business,
when people want me,

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what I found in this business,
when people want me,
they find me.

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When people want me,
they find me.
And it just means that the other

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they find me.
And it just means that the other
opportunity wasn't for me.

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And it just means that the other
opportunity wasn't for me.
And that's okay.

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Opportunity wasn't for me.
And that's okay.
It was a nationwide search

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and that's okay.
It was a nationwide search
for the character of rudy.

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It was a nationwide search
for the character of rudy.
And rudy was actually

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for the character of rudy.
And rudy was actually
originally supposed to be a boy.

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And rudy was actually
originally supposed to be a boy.
They were looking

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originally supposed to be a boy.
They were looking
for a little boy,

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they were looking
for a little boy,
and when they didn't find

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for a little boy,
and when they didn't find
the little boy, they opened it

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and when they didn't find
the little boy, they opened it
up to little girls, as well.

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The little boy, they opened it
up to little girls, as well.
And I just remember

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up to little girls, as well.
And I just remember
going to several auditions.

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And I just remember
going to several auditions.
And then the final audition,

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going to several auditions.
And then the final audition,
I remember, was in l.A.,

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and then the final audition,
I remember, was in l.A.,
and I remember

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I remember, was in l.A.,
and I remember
walking into the room.

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And I remember
walking into the room.
I was 4 years old.

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Walking into the room.
I was 4 years old.
And jay sandrich

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I was 4 years old.
And jay sandrich
and mr. Cosby --

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and jay sandrich
and mr. Cosby --
jay sandrich was the first

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and mr. Cosby --
jay sandrich was the first
director of "the cosby show" --

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jay sandrich was the first
director of "the cosby show" --
very instrumental.

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Director of "the cosby show" --
very instrumental.
He was awesome. Adore him.

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Very instrumental.
He was awesome. Adore him.
And I remember walking into the

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he was awesome. Adore him.
And I remember walking into the
room, seeing the two of them,

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and I remember walking into the
room, seeing the two of them,
and saying, you know,

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room, seeing the two of them,
and saying, you know,
"my name is keshia,

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and saying, you know,
"my name is keshia,
and I'm 4 years old.

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"my name is keshia,
and I'm 4 years old.
I can't read yet,

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and I'm 4 years old.
I can't read yet,
but I have my lines memorized."

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I can't read yet,
but I have my lines memorized."
that was it.

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But I have my lines memorized."
that was it.
And then from there,

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that was it.
And then from there,
I believe, we had a screen test.

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And then from there,
I believe, we had a screen test.
And anyone who's in the business

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I believe, we had a screen test.
And anyone who's in the business
knows that they'll do chemistry

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and anyone who's in the business
knows that they'll do chemistry
reads and mix and matches.

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Knows that they'll do chemistry
reads and mix and matches.
And there's a whole process

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reads and mix and matches.
And there's a whole process
to putting together

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and there's a whole process
to putting together
a family, specifically.

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To putting together
a family, specifically.
I even remember, and I think

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a family, specifically.
I even remember, and I think
there's a footage floating

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I even remember, and I think
there's a footage floating
around somewhere when I was

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there's a footage floating
around somewhere when I was
that 4-year-old little girl

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around somewhere when I was
that 4-year-old little girl
and I'm doing my screen test,

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that 4-year-old little girl
and I'm doing my screen test,
and I can see myself

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and I'm doing my screen test,
and I can see myself
on the monitor, and I'm looking

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and I can see myself
on the monitor, and I'm looking
back and forth like,

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on the monitor, and I'm looking
back and forth like,
"that's me."

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back and forth like,
"that's me."
but, yeah,

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"that's me."
but, yeah,
that's how it happened.

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But, yeah,
that's how it happened.
And, I mean, honestly,

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that's how it happened.
And, I mean, honestly,
the rest is really just history.

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And, I mean, honestly,
the rest is really just history.
But what I can say is,

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the rest is really just history.
But what I can say is,
in that moment, my 5-, 6-, 7-,

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but what I can say is,
in that moment, my 5-, 6-, 7-,
8-, till right before

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in that moment, my 5-, 6-, 7-,
8-, till right before
I was 13-year-old self

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8-, till right before
I was 13-year-old self
did not understand

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I was 13-year-old self
did not understand
the magnitude

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did not understand
the magnitude
of what we were creating.

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The magnitude
of what we were creating.
I wasn't able to fathom

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of what we were creating.
I wasn't able to fathom
how it was going to change

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I wasn't able to fathom
how it was going to change
the course of history

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how it was going to change
the course of history
the way that it has.

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The course of history
the way that it has.
Quite frankly, I didn't really

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the way that it has.
Quite frankly, I didn't really
even begin to grasp

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quite frankly, I didn't really
even begin to grasp
until I was sitting

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even begin to grasp
until I was sitting
in a sociology class

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until I was sitting
in a sociology class
at spelman college as a student,

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in a sociology class
at spelman college as a student,
and we're talking about us

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at spelman college as a student,
and we're talking about us
and the impact that we have had

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and we're talking about us
and the impact that we have had
on society as a whole.

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And the impact that we have had
on society as a whole.
And then subsequently,

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on society as a whole.
And then subsequently,
you know, meeting people

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and then subsequently,
you know, meeting people
from around the world

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you know, meeting people
from around the world
who grew up watching the show,

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from around the world
who grew up watching the show,
who, because of us, dreamt

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who grew up watching the show,
who, because of us, dreamt
of going to college

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who, because of us, dreamt
of going to college
or now thought that going

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of going to college
or now thought that going
to an hbcu was possible

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or now thought that going
to an hbcu was possible
or even knew what an hbcu was

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to an hbcu was possible
or even knew what an hbcu was
as a result of this show,

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or even knew what an hbcu was
as a result of this show,
who may not have had the best

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as a result of this show,
who may not have had the best
home life but could escape

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who may not have had the best
home life but could escape
through watching our family

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home life but could escape
through watching our family
and learn lessons that weren't

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through watching our family
and learn lessons that weren't
taught in their household.

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And learn lessons that weren't
taught in their household.
So you can't deny

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taught in their household.
So you can't deny
just the indelible mark

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so you can't deny
just the indelible mark
that it has made on history for

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just the indelible mark
that it has made on history for
black people, for brown people,

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that it has made on history for
black people, for brown people,
for rich people,

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black people, for brown people,
for rich people,
for poor people.

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For rich people,
for poor people.
It was a show that brought

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for poor people.
It was a show that brought
people together

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it was a show that brought
people together
and made people realize how much

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people together
and made people realize how much
more alike we were the different

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and made people realize how much
more alike we were the different
and also let people know

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more alike we were the different
and also let people know
that anything is possible.

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♪
>> pulliam: To this day,
randomly am the youngest person

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>> pulliam: To this day,
randomly am the youngest person
ever nominated for an emmy

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randomly am the youngest person
ever nominated for an emmy
for best supporting actress.

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Ever nominated for an emmy
for best supporting actress.
I remember going to the emmys,

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for best supporting actress.
I remember going to the emmys,
but, you know, the things

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I remember going to the emmys,
but, you know, the things
I remember, I remember my dress,

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but, you know, the things
I remember, I remember my dress,
which I still have.

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I remember, I remember my dress,
which I still have.
And it's funny, my daughter

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which I still have.
And it's funny, my daughter
is about that age now,

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and it's funny, my daughter
is about that age now,
so I've loved to put her in it

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is about that age now,
so I've loved to put her in it
and take some photos of her.

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So I've loved to put her in it
and take some photos of her.
But I remember, you know,

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and take some photos of her.
But I remember, you know,
it was the whole cast who went

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but I remember, you know,
it was the whole cast who went
and me just being like,

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it was the whole cast who went
and me just being like,
"well, why can't I stand up?

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And me just being like,
"well, why can't I stand up?
Why do you have to" --

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"well, why can't I stand up?
Why do you have to" --
because malcolm would pick me up

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why do you have to" --
because malcolm would pick me up
for the pictures.

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Because malcolm would pick me up
for the pictures.
The funny thing is, when you're

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for the pictures.
The funny thing is, when you're
a kid, you're always you.

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The funny thing is, when you're
a kid, you're always you.
You're just in a smaller body,

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a kid, you're always you.
You're just in a smaller body,
and you just haven't learned

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you're just in a smaller body,
and you just haven't learned
as many lessons yet,

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and you just haven't learned
as many lessons yet,
maybe not as much wisdom.

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As many lessons yet,
maybe not as much wisdom.
But I feel like your personality

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maybe not as much wisdom.
But I feel like your personality
is what it is.

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But I feel like your personality
is what it is.
And, you know, even at that,

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is what it is.
And, you know, even at that,
it was like, "okay,

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and, you know, even at that,
it was like, "okay,
it happened," and you kind of

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it was like, "okay,
it happened," and you kind of
keep going.

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It happened," and you kind of
keep going.
The award has never

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keep going.
The award has never
been my goal.

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The award has never
been my goal.
What I love about it

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been my goal.
What I love about it
is storytelling, specifically,

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what I love about it
is storytelling, specifically,
you know, stories

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is storytelling, specifically,
you know, stories
that I relate to,

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you know, stories
that I relate to,
stories that are inspirational.

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That I relate to,
stories that are inspirational.
I understand the power

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stories that are inspirational.
I understand the power
of the medium.

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I understand the power
of the medium.
It's a form of history.

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Of the medium.
It's a form of history.
And you are solidifying

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it's a form of history.
And you are solidifying
your history and your story

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and you are solidifying
your history and your story
through the movies

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your history and your story
through the movies
and the tv shows that we do.

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Through the movies
and the tv shows that we do.
I recognize that so many people

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and the tv shows that we do.
I recognize that so many people
may have never met

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I recognize that so many people
may have never met
a black person in their life,

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may have never met
a black person in their life,
so they're getting their entire

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a black person in their life,
so they're getting their entire
understanding of who we are

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so they're getting their entire
understanding of who we are
as a people and a culture by one

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understanding of who we are
as a people and a culture by one
of america's greatest exports,

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as a people and a culture by one
of america's greatest exports,
and that's television and film.

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Of america's greatest exports,
and that's television and film.
So there's a lot of power

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and that's television and film.
So there's a lot of power
in that, and all of those

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so there's a lot of power
in that, and all of those
things have an impact,

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in that, and all of those
things have an impact,
and all of those things

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things have an impact,
and all of those things
tell a story.

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And all of those things
tell a story.
♪

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tell a story.
♪
I am a student of life

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♪
I am a student of life
in every opportunity

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I am a student of life
in every opportunity
that I have.

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In every opportunity
that I have.
And growing up around the greats

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that I have.
And growing up around the greats
and the best of the best, it's

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and growing up around the greats
and the best of the best, it's
different because I'm young,

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and the best of the best, it's
different because I'm young,
but my work ethic is old school,

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different because I'm young,
but my work ethic is old school,
you know, having the ability to

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but my work ethic is old school,
you know, having the ability to
work with the sammy davis jrs.,

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you know, having the ability to
work with the sammy davis jrs.,
the dizzy gillespies,

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work with the sammy davis jrs.,
the dizzy gillespies,
the lena hornes.

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The dizzy gillespies,
the lena hornes.
And the thing is, in that day,

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the lena hornes.
And the thing is, in that day,
it wasn't just about

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and the thing is, in that day,
it wasn't just about
being famous or a movie star.

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It wasn't just about
being famous or a movie star.
They, too, understood the

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being famous or a movie star.
They, too, understood the
assignment because they came

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they, too, understood the
assignment because they came
from a time when they

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assignment because they came
from a time when they
weren't valued, embraced.

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From a time when they
weren't valued, embraced.
They knew what segregation was.

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Weren't valued, embraced.
They knew what segregation was.
They knew what it was

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they knew what segregation was.
They knew what it was
not to have rights.

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They knew what it was
not to have rights.
And when you were in

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not to have rights.
And when you were in
this position,

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and when you were in
this position,
it was also, how were you going

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this position,
it was also, how were you going
to reach back and pull forward?

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It was also, how were you going
to reach back and pull forward?
How were you also going to

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to reach back and pull forward?
How were you also going to
pay it forward and understanding

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how were you also going to
pay it forward and understanding
that it's a very

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pay it forward and understanding
that it's a very
intertwined world?

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That it's a very
intertwined world?
I think that the naacp

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intertwined world?
I think that the naacp
is so important

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I think that the naacp
is so important
because it gives a voice

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is so important
because it gives a voice
to a demographic of people

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because it gives a voice
to a demographic of people
which were so long suppressed,

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to a demographic of people
which were so long suppressed,
which, you know, we didn't

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which were so long suppressed,
which, you know, we didn't
have that voice.

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Which, you know, we didn't
have that voice.
It wasn't just about

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have that voice.
It wasn't just about
being an actor.

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It wasn't just about
being an actor.
It was also about being an

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being an actor.
It was also about being an
activist and understanding

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it was also about being an
activist and understanding
that these people were

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activist and understanding
that these people were
at the heart

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that these people were
at the heart
of the civil rights movement.

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00:11:03,997 --> 00:11:06,264
At the heart
of the civil rights movement.
They understood that it was

370
00:11:06,266 --> 00:11:08,166
of the civil rights movement.
They understood that it was
bigger than just entertaining.

371
00:11:08,168 --> 00:11:09,601
They understood that it was
bigger than just entertaining.
It was, how are we going to

372
00:11:09,603 --> 00:11:13,338
bigger than just entertaining.
It was, how are we going to
empower, inspire, and solidify

373
00:11:13,340 --> 00:11:15,073
it was, how are we going to
empower, inspire, and solidify
the freedom

374
00:11:15,075 --> 00:11:16,741
empower, inspire, and solidify
the freedom
of future generations?

375
00:11:16,743 --> 00:11:18,910
The freedom
of future generations?
It was bigger than

376
00:11:18,912 --> 00:11:20,211
of future generations?
It was bigger than
any individual person.

377
00:11:20,213 --> 00:11:22,147
It was bigger than
any individual person.
It was about the collective.

378
00:11:22,149 --> 00:11:24,482
Any individual person.
It was about the collective.
And I learned that, like,

379
00:11:24,484 --> 00:11:26,084
it was about the collective.
And I learned that, like,
you know, college was important,

380
00:11:26,086 --> 00:11:27,185
and I learned that, like,
you know, college was important,
education.

381
00:11:27,187 --> 00:11:28,520
You know, college was important,
education.
Phylicia's a howard graduate.

382
00:11:28,522 --> 00:11:29,921
Education.
Phylicia's a howard graduate.
When I was on "the cosby show,"

383
00:11:29,923 --> 00:11:31,956
phylicia's a howard graduate.
When I was on "the cosby show,"
malcolm, as well as tempestt,

384
00:11:31,958 --> 00:11:33,958
when I was on "the cosby show,"
malcolm, as well as tempestt,
were going to nyu at the time.

385
00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:34,993
Malcolm, as well as tempestt,
were going to nyu at the time.
They're graduates

386
00:11:34,995 --> 00:11:36,294
were going to nyu at the time.
They're graduates
of nyu at this point.

387
00:11:36,296 --> 00:11:39,064
They're graduates
of nyu at this point.
So, you know, not only at home

388
00:11:39,066 --> 00:11:40,765
of nyu at this point.
So, you know, not only at home
but at work,

389
00:11:40,767 --> 00:11:44,002
so, you know, not only at home
but at work,
that the notion of education

390
00:11:44,004 --> 00:11:45,603
but at work,
that the notion of education
and black excellence before it

391
00:11:45,605 --> 00:11:48,073
that the notion of education
and black excellence before it
was even coined a phrase

392
00:11:48,075 --> 00:11:49,874
and black excellence before it
was even coined a phrase
was the norm.

393
00:11:49,876 --> 00:11:52,744
Was even coined a phrase
was the norm.
So it never occurred to me

394
00:11:52,746 --> 00:11:53,778
was the norm.
So it never occurred to me
not to go to college.

395
00:11:53,780 --> 00:11:54,779
So it never occurred to me
not to go to college.
That was never an option

396
00:11:54,781 --> 00:11:58,116
not to go to college.
That was never an option
in my brain.

397
00:11:58,118 --> 00:11:59,984
That was never an option
in my brain.
The cast is always going

398
00:11:59,986 --> 00:12:03,588
in my brain.
The cast is always going
to be family, and we share a

399
00:12:03,590 --> 00:12:08,927
the cast is always going
to be family, and we share a
bond that is cemented for life.

400
00:12:08,929 --> 00:12:11,229
To be family, and we share a
bond that is cemented for life.
Malcolm actually lives here

401
00:12:11,231 --> 00:12:12,897
bond that is cemented for life.
Malcolm actually lives here
in georgia, and our daughters

402
00:12:12,899 --> 00:12:13,965
malcolm actually lives here
in georgia, and our daughters
are about the same age.

403
00:12:13,967 --> 00:12:14,966
In georgia, and our daughters
are about the same age.
Who would have thought me and

404
00:12:14,968 --> 00:12:16,167
are about the same age.
Who would have thought me and
malcolm would have little girls

405
00:12:16,169 --> 00:12:17,168
who would have thought me and
malcolm would have little girls
about the same age?

406
00:12:17,170 --> 00:12:18,536
Malcolm would have little girls
about the same age?
But, you know,

407
00:12:18,538 --> 00:12:19,904
about the same age?
But, you know,
they play together and love

408
00:12:19,906 --> 00:12:21,439
but, you know,
they play together and love
and adore each other.

409
00:12:21,441 --> 00:12:24,242
They play together and love
and adore each other.
So our lives have continued

410
00:12:24,244 --> 00:12:26,544
and adore each other.
So our lives have continued
to go on past the show,

411
00:12:26,546 --> 00:12:27,946
so our lives have continued
to go on past the show,
and there are a lot of shows

412
00:12:27,948 --> 00:12:29,581
to go on past the show,
and there are a lot of shows
that can't say that.

413
00:12:29,583 --> 00:12:31,883
And there are a lot of shows
that can't say that.
There are a lot of casts

414
00:12:31,885 --> 00:12:34,085
that can't say that.
There are a lot of casts
who still can pick up the phone

415
00:12:34,087 --> 00:12:36,354
there are a lot of casts
who still can pick up the phone
and pick up like yesterday,

416
00:12:36,356 --> 00:12:38,289
who still can pick up the phone
and pick up like yesterday,
whether it's, you know, phylicia

417
00:12:38,291 --> 00:12:40,291
and pick up like yesterday,
whether it's, you know, phylicia
or, you know, when she started

418
00:12:40,293 --> 00:12:41,292
whether it's, you know, phylicia
or, you know, when she started
working at howard,

419
00:12:41,294 --> 00:12:42,293
or, you know, when she started
working at howard,
being able to call

420
00:12:42,295 --> 00:12:43,862
working at howard,
being able to call
and just, "I'm so proud,"

421
00:12:43,864 --> 00:12:45,630
being able to call
and just, "I'm so proud,"
you know, just all of those

422
00:12:45,632 --> 00:12:46,631
and just, "I'm so proud,"
you know, just all of those
different moments

423
00:12:46,633 --> 00:12:50,268
you know, just all of those
different moments
and vice versa.

424
00:12:50,270 --> 00:12:53,772
Different moments
and vice versa.
The bottom line is, the way that

425
00:12:53,774 --> 00:12:57,675
and vice versa.
The bottom line is, the way that
we impacted society as a whole

426
00:12:57,677 --> 00:13:01,212
the bottom line is, the way that
we impacted society as a whole
and the legacy that we have left

427
00:13:01,214 --> 00:13:03,248
we impacted society as a whole
and the legacy that we have left
will never go away.

428
00:13:03,250 --> 00:13:05,416
And the legacy that we have left
will never go away.
However, we do have to continue

429
00:13:05,418 --> 00:13:07,685
will never go away.
However, we do have to continue
to speak the legacy

430
00:13:07,687 --> 00:13:09,120
however, we do have to continue
to speak the legacy
and speak the work

431
00:13:09,122 --> 00:13:10,922
to speak the legacy
and speak the work
because, also, history

432
00:13:10,924 --> 00:13:12,390
and speak the work
because, also, history
is written every day

433
00:13:12,392 --> 00:13:13,725
because, also, history
is written every day
with what is passed down,

434
00:13:13,727 --> 00:13:15,560
is written every day
with what is passed down,
with what continues to be

435
00:13:15,562 --> 00:13:17,595
with what is passed down,
with what continues to be
acknowledged and spoken about.

436
00:13:17,597 --> 00:13:21,866
With what continues to be
acknowledged and spoken about.
So I do feel it's important to,

437
00:13:21,868 --> 00:13:23,334
acknowledged and spoken about.
So I do feel it's important to,
you know, acknowledge the work

438
00:13:23,336 --> 00:13:26,271
so I do feel it's important to,
you know, acknowledge the work
that a whole lot of people did

439
00:13:26,273 --> 00:13:27,572
you know, acknowledge the work
that a whole lot of people did
and poured their heart and soul

440
00:13:27,574 --> 00:13:29,941
that a whole lot of people did
and poured their heart and soul
into and, as a result,

441
00:13:29,943 --> 00:13:32,076
and poured their heart and soul
into and, as a result,
has been able to continue

442
00:13:32,078 --> 00:13:32,744
into and, as a result,
has been able to continue
to positively affect the world.

443
00:13:38,517 --> 00:13:44,589
>> pulliam: I will never, ever
forget the first time
that I stepped on to the campus

444
00:13:44,591 --> 00:13:46,291
forget the first time
that I stepped on to the campus
of spelman college.

445
00:13:46,293 --> 00:13:49,727
That I stepped on to the campus
of spelman college.
I was so enamored with all of

446
00:13:49,729 --> 00:13:52,664
of spelman college.
I was so enamored with all of
these beautiful black women.

447
00:13:52,666 --> 00:13:54,132
I was so enamored with all of
these beautiful black women.
That was an experience

448
00:13:54,134 --> 00:13:56,467
these beautiful black women.
That was an experience
I was destined to have to plant

449
00:13:56,469 --> 00:13:59,070
that was an experience
I was destined to have to plant
the seed that would later grow

450
00:13:59,072 --> 00:14:01,739
I was destined to have to plant
the seed that would later grow
into my knowing that spelman

451
00:14:01,741 --> 00:14:03,274
the seed that would later grow
into my knowing that spelman
was where I needed to be.

452
00:14:03,276 --> 00:14:04,275
Into my knowing that spelman
was where I needed to be.
It's crazy because, like,

453
00:14:04,277 --> 00:14:05,276
was where I needed to be.
It's crazy because, like,
you're 7.

454
00:14:05,278 --> 00:14:06,611
It's crazy because, like,
you're 7.
Like, I just knew.

455
00:14:06,613 --> 00:14:07,846
You're 7.
Like, I just knew.
And it's funny because my dad,

456
00:14:07,848 --> 00:14:08,847
like, I just knew.
And it's funny because my dad,
you know, he comes from that era

457
00:14:08,849 --> 00:14:10,114
and it's funny because my dad,
you know, he comes from that era
of, "no, you need to go to yale

458
00:14:10,116 --> 00:14:11,115
you know, he comes from that era
of, "no, you need to go to yale
or all these ivy league

459
00:14:11,117 --> 00:14:12,116
of, "no, you need to go to yale
or all these ivy league
schools."

460
00:14:12,118 --> 00:14:13,117
or all these ivy league
schools."
I was like, "no, dad, I'm going

461
00:14:13,119 --> 00:14:14,652
schools."
I was like, "no, dad, I'm going
to spelman, sorry."

462
00:14:14,654 --> 00:14:17,155
I was like, "no, dad, I'm going
to spelman, sorry."
so he literally made me

463
00:14:17,157 --> 00:14:20,191
to spelman, sorry."
so he literally made me
fill out the application to uva.

464
00:14:20,193 --> 00:14:21,259
So he literally made me
fill out the application to uva.
It was like a yale.

465
00:14:21,261 --> 00:14:22,560
Fill out the application to uva.
It was like a yale.
But back then, it was, like,

466
00:14:22,562 --> 00:14:23,995
it was like a yale.
But back then, it was, like,
a two-part application.

467
00:14:23,997 --> 00:14:26,264
But back then, it was, like,
a two-part application.
So the first part

468
00:14:26,266 --> 00:14:28,233
a two-part application.
So the first part
was, like, kind of basic.

469
00:14:28,235 --> 00:14:30,435
So the first part
was, like, kind of basic.
I did it. I sent that part in.

470
00:14:30,437 --> 00:14:31,736
Was, like, kind of basic.
I did it. I sent that part in.
But I applied to spelman

471
00:14:31,738 --> 00:14:33,271
I did it. I sent that part in.
But I applied to spelman
early decision.

472
00:14:33,273 --> 00:14:34,873
But I applied to spelman
early decision.
So did the complete application

473
00:14:34,875 --> 00:14:35,874
early decision.
So did the complete application
to spelman.

474
00:14:35,876 --> 00:14:38,076
So did the complete application
to spelman.
I knew I was accepted to spelman

475
00:14:38,078 --> 00:14:40,645
to spelman.
I knew I was accepted to spelman
before thanksgiving, christmas.

476
00:14:40,647 --> 00:14:43,982
I knew I was accepted to spelman
before thanksgiving, christmas.
That's how dead set I was

477
00:14:43,984 --> 00:14:45,650
before thanksgiving, christmas.
That's how dead set I was
on going to spelman college.

478
00:14:45,652 --> 00:14:46,284
That's how dead set I was
on going to spelman college.
You couldn't tell me nothing.

479
00:14:49,288 --> 00:14:55,827
>> pulliam: I have made some of
my best, most lifelong friends
right at spelman college.

480
00:14:55,829 --> 00:14:56,995
My best, most lifelong friends
right at spelman college.
With everyone having grown up

481
00:14:56,997 --> 00:14:58,830
right at spelman college.
With everyone having grown up
with me, you know, people

482
00:14:58,832 --> 00:15:00,098
with everyone having grown up
with me, you know, people
definitely had preconceived

483
00:15:00,100 --> 00:15:02,066
with me, you know, people
definitely had preconceived
notions of who I was,

484
00:15:02,068 --> 00:15:03,801
definitely had preconceived
notions of who I was,
how I would be,

485
00:15:03,803 --> 00:15:05,803
notions of who I was,
how I would be,
would I be stuck up or entitled

486
00:15:05,805 --> 00:15:07,472
how I would be,
would I be stuck up or entitled
or this or that?

487
00:15:07,474 --> 00:15:09,774
Would I be stuck up or entitled
or this or that?
But this is a very odd saying,

488
00:15:09,776 --> 00:15:11,075
or this or that?
But this is a very odd saying,
but it's one of my favorites

489
00:15:11,077 --> 00:15:14,379
but this is a very odd saying,
but it's one of my favorites
that a mentor of mine says --

490
00:15:14,381 --> 00:15:15,380
but it's one of my favorites
that a mentor of mine says --
"if you're not a hoe,

491
00:15:15,382 --> 00:15:17,382
that a mentor of mine says --
"if you're not a hoe,
you can't be a hoe,"

492
00:15:17,384 --> 00:15:19,784
"if you're not a hoe,
you can't be a hoe,"
meaning if it's not who you are,

493
00:15:19,786 --> 00:15:21,419
you can't be a hoe,"
meaning if it's not who you are,
then you can't be that.

494
00:15:21,421 --> 00:15:23,788
Meaning if it's not who you are,
then you can't be that.
You are who you consistently

495
00:15:23,790 --> 00:15:25,423
then you can't be that.
You are who you consistently
show up to be.

496
00:15:25,425 --> 00:15:26,824
You are who you consistently
show up to be.
Everyone isn't gonna like you.

497
00:15:26,826 --> 00:15:27,825
Show up to be.
Everyone isn't gonna like you.
You're just not gonna be

498
00:15:27,827 --> 00:15:28,860
everyone isn't gonna like you.
You're just not gonna be
everyone's cup of tea.

499
00:15:28,862 --> 00:15:30,194
You're just not gonna be
everyone's cup of tea.
That's just life.

500
00:15:30,196 --> 00:15:31,863
Everyone's cup of tea.
That's just life.
But that's okay.

501
00:15:31,865 --> 00:15:34,198
That's just life.
But that's okay.
But for me, I've just always

502
00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,303
but that's okay.
But for me, I've just always
been very consistent in being,

503
00:15:38,305 --> 00:15:39,837
but for me, I've just always
been very consistent in being,
and if not being,

504
00:15:39,839 --> 00:15:41,472
been very consistent in being,
and if not being,
working to and becoming,

505
00:15:41,474 --> 00:15:43,341
and if not being,
working to and becoming,
who I desire to be.

506
00:15:43,343 --> 00:15:44,709
Working to and becoming,
who I desire to be.
So, you know,

507
00:15:44,711 --> 00:15:46,144
who I desire to be.
So, you know,
it was interesting.

508
00:15:46,146 --> 00:15:48,046
So, you know,
it was interesting.
There's definitely some stories

509
00:15:48,048 --> 00:15:50,381
it was interesting.
There's definitely some stories
that'll stay at spelman college.

510
00:15:50,383 --> 00:15:51,916
There's definitely some stories
that'll stay at spelman college.
Thank god there were no camera

511
00:15:51,918 --> 00:15:53,284
that'll stay at spelman college.
Thank god there were no camera
phones and all this.

512
00:15:53,286 --> 00:15:54,786
Thank god there were no camera
phones and all this.
And, you know, the funny

513
00:15:54,788 --> 00:15:55,920
phones and all this.
And, you know, the funny
thing is, some people thought

514
00:15:55,922 --> 00:15:56,955
and, you know, the funny
thing is, some people thought
they were going to meet rudy,

515
00:15:56,957 --> 00:15:58,089
thing is, some people thought
they were going to meet rudy,
but they ain't know they were

516
00:15:58,091 --> 00:15:59,324
they were going to meet rudy,
but they ain't know they were
going to meet keshia.

517
00:15:59,326 --> 00:16:00,892
But they ain't know they were
going to meet keshia.
We two different people.

518
00:16:00,894 --> 00:16:01,893
Going to meet keshia.
We two different people.
Keshia's from jersey.

519
00:16:01,895 --> 00:16:02,894
We two different people.
Keshia's from jersey.
We don't play those ghetto

520
00:16:02,896 --> 00:16:03,895
keshia's from jersey.
We don't play those ghetto
games.

521
00:16:03,897 --> 00:16:05,663
We don't play those ghetto
games.
But, you know, like I said,

522
00:16:05,665 --> 00:16:06,664
games.
But, you know, like I said,
I pledged.

523
00:16:06,666 --> 00:16:09,600
But, you know, like I said,
I pledged.
I'm a delta, eta kappa chapter,

524
00:16:09,602 --> 00:16:10,902
I pledged.
I'm a delta, eta kappa chapter,
spelman college.

525
00:16:10,904 --> 00:16:13,638
I'm a delta, eta kappa chapter,
spelman college.
And my line sisters

526
00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,573
spelman college.
And my line sisters
and the sisters

527
00:16:15,575 --> 00:16:19,110
and my line sisters
and the sisters
that I made at spelman

528
00:16:19,112 --> 00:16:21,245
and the sisters
that I made at spelman
literally are some of my

529
00:16:21,247 --> 00:16:25,450
that I made at spelman
literally are some of my
best friends to this day.

530
00:16:25,452 --> 00:16:27,185
Literally are some of my
best friends to this day.
I fell in love with atlanta,

531
00:16:27,187 --> 00:16:29,354
best friends to this day.
I fell in love with atlanta,
I think, it was olympics '96.

532
00:16:29,356 --> 00:16:30,555
I fell in love with atlanta,
I think, it was olympics '96.
'cause I have family who live

533
00:16:30,557 --> 00:16:31,756
I think, it was olympics '96.
'cause I have family who live
here, also, so I have

534
00:16:31,758 --> 00:16:33,491
'cause I have family who live
here, also, so I have
family who live in atlanta.

535
00:16:33,493 --> 00:16:34,792
Here, also, so I have
family who live in atlanta.
My dad's side of the family

536
00:16:34,794 --> 00:16:35,927
family who live in atlanta.
My dad's side of the family
originally is from georgia.

537
00:16:35,929 --> 00:16:37,228
My dad's side of the family
originally is from georgia.
My mom's side of the family

538
00:16:37,230 --> 00:16:38,596
originally is from georgia.
My mom's side of the family
originally is from alabama.

539
00:16:38,598 --> 00:16:40,098
My mom's side of the family
originally is from alabama.
So in the summers, we would take

540
00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:41,966
originally is from alabama.
So in the summers, we would take
these car trips, these horr--

541
00:16:41,968 --> 00:16:43,301
so in the summers, we would take
these car trips, these horr--
like, to this day,

542
00:16:43,303 --> 00:16:44,435
these car trips, these horr--
like, to this day,
I'm not a car --

543
00:16:44,437 --> 00:16:46,004
like, to this day,
I'm not a car --
like, that's why I think I don't

544
00:16:46,006 --> 00:16:48,373
I'm not a car --
like, that's why I think I don't
really like car trips that much.

545
00:16:48,375 --> 00:16:49,774
Like, that's why I think I don't
really like car trips that much.
So we'd take these epic car

546
00:16:49,776 --> 00:16:52,777
really like car trips that much.
So we'd take these epic car
trips over the summer, where me,

547
00:16:52,779 --> 00:16:54,545
so we'd take these epic car
trips over the summer, where me,
my brothers, my parents,

548
00:16:54,547 --> 00:16:55,880
trips over the summer, where me,
my brothers, my parents,
all the luggage would be

549
00:16:55,882 --> 00:16:57,382
my brothers, my parents,
all the luggage would be
packed up in the car.

550
00:16:57,384 --> 00:16:58,416
All the luggage would be
packed up in the car.
And we'd drive.

551
00:16:58,418 --> 00:16:59,817
Packed up in the car.
And we'd drive.
We'd drive to virginia,

552
00:16:59,819 --> 00:17:00,818
and we'd drive.
We'd drive to virginia,
where my dad's side

553
00:17:00,820 --> 00:17:02,153
we'd drive to virginia,
where my dad's side
of the family -- boydton --

554
00:17:02,155 --> 00:17:04,255
where my dad's side
of the family -- boydton --
like, literally had an outhouse,

555
00:17:04,257 --> 00:17:05,823
of the family -- boydton --
like, literally had an outhouse,
my great-grandmother's house.

556
00:17:05,825 --> 00:17:07,492
Like, literally had an outhouse,
my great-grandmother's house.
And then we'd make our way

557
00:17:07,494 --> 00:17:08,493
my great-grandmother's house.
And then we'd make our way
to georgia.

558
00:17:08,495 --> 00:17:10,328
And then we'd make our way
to georgia.
And then from georgia to alabama

559
00:17:10,330 --> 00:17:12,463
to georgia.
And then from georgia to alabama
to see my mother's family.

560
00:17:12,465 --> 00:17:15,033
And then from georgia to alabama
to see my mother's family.
So I knew from being little that

561
00:17:15,035 --> 00:17:16,968
to see my mother's family.
So I knew from being little that
I fell in love with atlanta.

562
00:17:16,970 --> 00:17:19,737
So I knew from being little that
I fell in love with atlanta.
So after graduation, I stayed.

563
00:17:19,739 --> 00:17:21,773
I fell in love with atlanta.
So after graduation, I stayed.
And then my brother under me,

564
00:17:21,775 --> 00:17:23,107
so after graduation, I stayed.
And then my brother under me,
jp, who went to morehouse,

565
00:17:23,109 --> 00:17:24,842
and then my brother under me,
jp, who went to morehouse,
he came to atlanta.

566
00:17:24,844 --> 00:17:27,812
Jp, who went to morehouse,
he came to atlanta.
And he graduated, he stayed.

567
00:17:27,814 --> 00:17:29,113
He came to atlanta.
And he graduated, he stayed.
My mother looked at my dad and

568
00:17:29,115 --> 00:17:30,948
and he graduated, he stayed.
My mother looked at my dad and
was like, "james, we're moving."

569
00:17:30,950 --> 00:17:32,917
my mother looked at my dad and
was like, "james, we're moving."
so that's how the whole family

570
00:17:32,919 --> 00:17:34,052
was like, "james, we're moving."
so that's how the whole family
ended up here.

571
00:17:34,054 --> 00:17:36,120
So that's how the whole family
ended up here.
So they moved here,

572
00:17:36,122 --> 00:17:38,623
ended up here.
So they moved here,
and literally me,

573
00:17:38,625 --> 00:17:40,258
so they moved here,
and literally me,
my parents, my brothers,

574
00:17:40,260 --> 00:17:41,659
and literally me,
my parents, my brothers,
we all live within 15,

575
00:17:41,661 --> 00:17:43,227
my parents, my brothers,
we all live within 15,
20 minutes of each other

576
00:17:43,229 --> 00:17:45,797
we all live within 15,
20 minutes of each other
and see each other all the time.

577
00:17:45,799 --> 00:17:46,798
20 minutes of each other
and see each other all the time.
And I love it.

578
00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:47,799
And see each other all the time.
And I love it.
Like, family is the most

579
00:17:47,801 --> 00:17:50,134
and I love it.
Like, family is the most
important thing to me.

580
00:17:50,136 --> 00:17:52,203
Like, family is the most
important thing to me.
♪

581
00:17:52,205 --> 00:17:54,138
important thing to me.
♪
my desire is to not

582
00:17:54,140 --> 00:17:55,339
♪
my desire is to not
just be in front of the camera

583
00:17:55,341 --> 00:17:56,741
my desire is to not
just be in front of the camera
but behind the camera

584
00:17:56,743 --> 00:17:58,176
just be in front of the camera
but behind the camera
for a multitude of reasons.

585
00:17:58,178 --> 00:17:59,444
But behind the camera
for a multitude of reasons.
One, it's because I'm passionate

586
00:17:59,446 --> 00:18:00,511
for a multitude of reasons.
One, it's because I'm passionate
about it.

587
00:18:00,513 --> 00:18:02,613
One, it's because I'm passionate
about it.
But, two, I understand the power

588
00:18:02,615 --> 00:18:04,115
about it.
But, two, I understand the power
in the creation of these images

589
00:18:04,117 --> 00:18:05,383
but, two, I understand the power
in the creation of these images
and how they're depicted.

590
00:18:05,385 --> 00:18:06,384
In the creation of these images
and how they're depicted.
When you're an actor, you're

591
00:18:06,386 --> 00:18:07,385
and how they're depicted.
When you're an actor, you're
just saying other people's

592
00:18:07,387 --> 00:18:08,619
when you're an actor, you're
just saying other people's
words, but when you're a

593
00:18:08,621 --> 00:18:09,987
just saying other people's
words, but when you're a
director, you're executing

594
00:18:09,989 --> 00:18:11,689
words, but when you're a
director, you're executing
the entirety of the vision.

595
00:18:11,691 --> 00:18:12,757
Director, you're executing
the entirety of the vision.
When you're a producer,

596
00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:13,791
the entirety of the vision.
When you're a producer,
you're behind the scenes,

597
00:18:13,793 --> 00:18:15,126
when you're a producer,
you're behind the scenes,
putting together all the pieces

598
00:18:15,128 --> 00:18:16,127
you're behind the scenes,
putting together all the pieces
of the puzzle.

599
00:18:16,129 --> 00:18:17,128
Putting together all the pieces
of the puzzle.
When you're a writer,

600
00:18:17,130 --> 00:18:18,396
of the puzzle.
When you're a writer,
you're putting those words

601
00:18:18,398 --> 00:18:20,164
when you're a writer,
you're putting those words
into the mouths of the actors.

602
00:18:20,166 --> 00:18:21,165
You're putting those words
into the mouths of the actors.
You know, when you're an

603
00:18:21,167 --> 00:18:22,467
into the mouths of the actors.
You know, when you're an
executive, you're deciding what

604
00:18:22,469 --> 00:18:24,202
you know, when you're an
executive, you're deciding what
gets seen, what gets funded,

605
00:18:24,204 --> 00:18:26,104
executive, you're deciding what
gets seen, what gets funded,
what gets shown.

606
00:18:26,106 --> 00:18:28,372
Gets seen, what gets funded,
what gets shown.
You have to understand the power

607
00:18:28,374 --> 00:18:30,241
what gets shown.
You have to understand the power
of the behind the scenes

608
00:18:30,243 --> 00:18:32,477
you have to understand the power
of the behind the scenes
in crafting our image.

609
00:18:32,479 --> 00:18:33,478
Of the behind the scenes
in crafting our image.
So that's always been

610
00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:34,879
in crafting our image.
So that's always been
very important to me.

611
00:18:34,881 --> 00:18:36,180
So that's always been
very important to me.
You know, the reality is,

612
00:18:36,182 --> 00:18:37,949
very important to me.
You know, the reality is,
after college, just, I was so

613
00:18:37,951 --> 00:18:39,150
you know, the reality is,
after college, just, I was so
busy with working in front of

614
00:18:39,152 --> 00:18:40,785
after college, just, I was so
busy with working in front of
the camera that I hadn't had

615
00:18:40,787 --> 00:18:41,786
busy with working in front of
the camera that I hadn't had
the opportunity.

616
00:18:41,788 --> 00:18:45,756
The camera that I hadn't had
the opportunity.
But plus, I feel like every job

617
00:18:45,758 --> 00:18:47,992
the opportunity.
But plus, I feel like every job
has helped prepare me for being

618
00:18:47,994 --> 00:18:49,827
but plus, I feel like every job
has helped prepare me for being
on this side of the camera.

619
00:18:49,829 --> 00:18:53,064
Has helped prepare me for being
on this side of the camera.
And everything has come together

620
00:18:53,066 --> 00:18:55,199
on this side of the camera.
And everything has come together
at specifically the right time.

621
00:18:55,201 --> 00:18:56,868
And everything has come together
at specifically the right time.
So, you know, after college --

622
00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:57,935
at specifically the right time.
So, you know, after college --
I'm thinking -- I did

623
00:18:57,937 --> 00:18:59,303
so, you know, after college --
I'm thinking -- I did
some television movies.

624
00:18:59,305 --> 00:19:01,572
I'm thinking -- I did
some television movies.
I did "beauty shop."

625
00:19:01,574 --> 00:19:03,875
some television movies.
I did "beauty shop."
I did chingy -- "one call away."

626
00:19:03,877 --> 00:19:05,910
I did "beauty shop."
I did chingy -- "one call away."
that was fun.

627
00:19:05,912 --> 00:19:07,011
I did chingy -- "one call away."
that was fun.
Just that whole era,

628
00:19:07,013 --> 00:19:08,312
that was fun.
Just that whole era,
because that was the time

629
00:19:08,314 --> 00:19:10,148
just that whole era,
because that was the time
where I really was able

630
00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:12,583
because that was the time
where I really was able
to be seen, finally, as a woman

631
00:19:12,585 --> 00:19:14,652
where I really was able
to be seen, finally, as a woman
versus a little girl.

632
00:19:14,654 --> 00:19:16,120
To be seen, finally, as a woman
versus a little girl.
And I feel that it was

633
00:19:16,122 --> 00:19:18,156
versus a little girl.
And I feel that it was
a necessary part of the journey

634
00:19:18,158 --> 00:19:22,560
and I feel that it was
a necessary part of the journey
within my transition.

635
00:19:22,562 --> 00:19:25,129
A necessary part of the journey
within my transition.
I'm guided by my intuition.

636
00:19:25,131 --> 00:19:29,734
Within my transition.
I'm guided by my intuition.
It's never guided by the check.

637
00:19:29,736 --> 00:19:31,269
I'm guided by my intuition.
It's never guided by the check.
We all have it.

638
00:19:31,271 --> 00:19:32,737
It's never guided by the check.
We all have it.
We have this little voice

639
00:19:32,739 --> 00:19:34,805
we all have it.
We have this little voice
within us, within our gut,

640
00:19:34,807 --> 00:19:37,542
we have this little voice
within us, within our gut,
that is telling us

641
00:19:37,544 --> 00:19:39,043
within us, within our gut,
that is telling us
which way to go.

642
00:19:39,045 --> 00:19:40,044
That is telling us
which way to go.
And it depends on

643
00:19:40,046 --> 00:19:41,245
which way to go.
And it depends on
if we slow down enough,

644
00:19:41,247 --> 00:19:42,380
and it depends on
if we slow down enough,
quiet ourselves enough

645
00:19:42,382 --> 00:19:44,081
if we slow down enough,
quiet ourselves enough
to listen.

646
00:19:44,083 --> 00:19:45,583
Quiet ourselves enough
to listen.
As I've gotten older,

647
00:19:45,585 --> 00:19:47,418
to listen.
As I've gotten older,
I've gotten better about

648
00:19:47,420 --> 00:19:51,255
as I've gotten older,
I've gotten better about
ensuring that I follow that gut

649
00:19:51,257 --> 00:19:53,357
I've gotten better about
ensuring that I follow that gut
and I always listen.

650
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,159
Ensuring that I follow that gut
and I always listen.
If my spirit feels restless,

651
00:19:55,161 --> 00:19:56,727
and I always listen.
If my spirit feels restless,
if it feels uneasy,

652
00:19:56,729 --> 00:19:58,262
if my spirit feels restless,
if it feels uneasy,
if I keep hitting roadblocks, if

653
00:19:58,264 --> 00:20:00,698
if it feels uneasy,
if I keep hitting roadblocks, if
it keeps -- that's not for me.

654
00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:02,233
If I keep hitting roadblocks, if
it keeps -- that's not for me.
And I'm okay with being like,

655
00:20:02,235 --> 00:20:06,971
it keeps -- that's not for me.
And I'm okay with being like,
"oop, no, I'm good.

656
00:20:06,973 --> 00:20:08,306
And I'm okay with being like,
"oop, no, I'm good.
I'm so good."

657
00:20:08,308 --> 00:20:10,741
"oop, no, I'm good.
I'm so good."
[ laughs ]

658
00:20:10,743 --> 00:20:12,443
I'm so good."
[ laughs ]
it's also, when you are

659
00:20:12,445 --> 00:20:13,878
[ laughs ]
it's also, when you are
in your lane

660
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,613
it's also, when you are
in your lane
and living in your purpose,

661
00:20:15,615 --> 00:20:17,748
in your lane
and living in your purpose,
it never misses you.

662
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:20,251
And living in your purpose,
it never misses you.
And I know that to be true

663
00:20:20,253 --> 00:20:20,785
it never misses you.
And I know that to be true
because I've lived that.

664
00:20:25,958 --> 00:20:29,026
>> pulliam: You know, the
"house of payne" is so crazy
because, again, it's, like,

665
00:20:29,028 --> 00:20:30,027
"house of payne" is so crazy
because, again, it's, like,
when something is for you,

666
00:20:30,029 --> 00:20:31,095
because, again, it's, like,
when something is for you,
it's for you.

667
00:20:31,097 --> 00:20:32,096
When something is for you,
it's for you.
That was a situation where,

668
00:20:32,098 --> 00:20:33,497
it's for you.
That was a situation where,
literally, I got this call.

669
00:20:33,499 --> 00:20:34,565
That was a situation where,
literally, I got this call.
They wanted me to come and do,

670
00:20:34,567 --> 00:20:36,667
literally, I got this call.
They wanted me to come and do,
like, a two-, three-episode arc.

671
00:20:36,669 --> 00:20:38,369
They wanted me to come and do,
like, a two-, three-episode arc.
It was something like that.

672
00:20:38,371 --> 00:20:40,271
Like, a two-, three-episode arc.
It was something like that.
And I was like, "okay, why not?

673
00:20:40,273 --> 00:20:41,572
It was something like that.
And I was like, "okay, why not?
Let's do this."

674
00:20:41,574 --> 00:20:44,075
and I was like, "okay, why not?
Let's do this."
so I ended up doing it.

675
00:20:44,077 --> 00:20:46,310
Let's do this."
so I ended up doing it.
And, I don't know, 2 episodes

676
00:20:46,312 --> 00:20:48,546
so I ended up doing it.
And, I don't know, 2 episodes
turned into 200-and-some-odd

677
00:20:48,548 --> 00:20:50,581
and, I don't know, 2 episodes
turned into 200-and-some-odd
later, and it's really been

678
00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:51,849
turned into 200-and-some-odd
later, and it's really been
a really great blessing.

679
00:20:51,851 --> 00:20:53,150
Later, and it's really been
a really great blessing.
It's so funny now, because

680
00:20:53,152 --> 00:20:54,552
a really great blessing.
It's so funny now, because
depending on what generation

681
00:20:54,554 --> 00:20:55,853
it's so funny now, because
depending on what generation
you are depends on

682
00:20:55,855 --> 00:20:57,121
depending on what generation
you are depends on
what you know me as.

683
00:20:57,123 --> 00:20:58,522
You are depends on
what you know me as.
Like, so, like, parents will be

684
00:20:58,524 --> 00:20:59,924
what you know me as.
Like, so, like, parents will be
like, "oh, no, that's rudy."

685
00:20:59,926 --> 00:21:00,925
like, so, like, parents will be
like, "oh, no, that's rudy."
and the kids will be like,

686
00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:02,593
like, "oh, no, that's rudy."
and the kids will be like,
"that's miranda. Yeah."

687
00:21:02,595 --> 00:21:03,694
and the kids will be like,
"that's miranda. Yeah."
and so, it's just so funny

688
00:21:03,696 --> 00:21:04,695
"that's miranda. Yeah."
and so, it's just so funny
to me.

689
00:21:04,697 --> 00:21:06,364
And so, it's just so funny
to me.
You know, actors pray for

690
00:21:06,366 --> 00:21:08,432
to me.
You know, actors pray for
one long-running show, but to

691
00:21:08,434 --> 00:21:10,334
you know, actors pray for
one long-running show, but to
have two, one eight years,

692
00:21:10,336 --> 00:21:11,969
one long-running show, but to
have two, one eight years,
one over a decade,

693
00:21:11,971 --> 00:21:14,205
have two, one eight years,
one over a decade,
that is magical.

694
00:21:14,207 --> 00:21:16,574
One over a decade,
that is magical.
And, you know, I'm really

695
00:21:16,576 --> 00:21:17,808
that is magical.
And, you know, I'm really
grateful for the opportunity.

696
00:21:17,810 --> 00:21:19,910
And, you know, I'm really
grateful for the opportunity.
And very few shows go on for

697
00:21:19,912 --> 00:21:21,412
grateful for the opportunity.
And very few shows go on for
as long as "house of payne" did,

698
00:21:21,414 --> 00:21:23,414
and very few shows go on for
as long as "house of payne" did,
had the five year or so hiatus

699
00:21:23,416 --> 00:21:26,350
as long as "house of payne" did,
had the five year or so hiatus
that we had, and then come back

700
00:21:26,352 --> 00:21:28,452
had the five year or so hiatus
that we had, and then come back
and still keep making shows.

701
00:21:28,454 --> 00:21:30,021
That we had, and then come back
and still keep making shows.
So it's definitely

702
00:21:30,023 --> 00:21:33,357
and still keep making shows.
So it's definitely
been a blessing.

703
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,859
So it's definitely
been a blessing.
You know, it's been great.

704
00:21:34,861 --> 00:21:37,662
Been a blessing.
You know, it's been great.
And then to begin my directing

705
00:21:37,664 --> 00:21:39,830
you know, it's been great.
And then to begin my directing
journey on "house of payne"

706
00:21:39,832 --> 00:21:42,133
and then to begin my directing
journey on "house of payne"
has been wonderful,

707
00:21:42,135 --> 00:21:44,001
journey on "house of payne"
has been wonderful,
working with the cast

708
00:21:44,003 --> 00:21:46,704
has been wonderful,
working with the cast
and the crew that I love so much

709
00:21:46,706 --> 00:21:48,105
working with the cast
and the crew that I love so much
and getting to be on the other

710
00:21:48,107 --> 00:21:49,473
and the crew that I love so much
and getting to be on the other
side of it.

711
00:21:49,475 --> 00:21:50,608
And getting to be on the other
side of it.
It has been a joy.

712
00:21:50,610 --> 00:21:52,410
Side of it.
It has been a joy.
And it's funny, because

713
00:21:52,412 --> 00:21:53,477
it has been a joy.
And it's funny, because
I always joke with people.

714
00:21:53,479 --> 00:21:54,478
And it's funny, because
I always joke with people.
I'm like, you know, "people talk

715
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:55,813
I always joke with people.
I'm like, you know, "people talk
about how fast tyler works

716
00:21:55,815 --> 00:21:57,315
I'm like, you know, "people talk
about how fast tyler works
and all that," and it's real.

717
00:21:57,317 --> 00:21:59,984
About how fast tyler works
and all that," and it's real.
Like, it is boot camp.

718
00:21:59,986 --> 00:22:02,119
And all that," and it's real.
Like, it is boot camp.
If you can thrive

719
00:22:02,121 --> 00:22:04,822
like, it is boot camp.
If you can thrive
at tyler perry studios,

720
00:22:04,824 --> 00:22:07,224
if you can thrive
at tyler perry studios,
you can thrive anywhere.

721
00:22:07,226 --> 00:22:11,228
At tyler perry studios,
you can thrive anywhere.
It's that simple.

722
00:22:11,230 --> 00:22:12,897
You can thrive anywhere.
It's that simple.
It's been great, you know,

723
00:22:12,899 --> 00:22:14,165
it's that simple.
It's been great, you know,
moving into directing

724
00:22:14,167 --> 00:22:16,400
it's been great, you know,
moving into directing
and directing several episodes

725
00:22:16,402 --> 00:22:17,768
moving into directing
and directing several episodes
of "house of payne"

726
00:22:17,770 --> 00:22:22,106
and directing several episodes
of "house of payne"
and just finishing directing

727
00:22:22,108 --> 00:22:23,207
of "house of payne"
and just finishing directing
"girlfriends' summer getaway,"

728
00:22:23,209 --> 00:22:24,508
and just finishing directing
"girlfriends' summer getaway,"
which is coming out this fall

729
00:22:24,510 --> 00:22:25,910
"girlfriends' summer getaway,"
which is coming out this fall
for the hallmark channel.

730
00:22:25,912 --> 00:22:26,911
Which is coming out this fall
for the hallmark channel.
It's amazing.

731
00:22:26,913 --> 00:22:28,312
For the hallmark channel.
It's amazing.
I love it. I enjoy it.

732
00:22:28,314 --> 00:22:29,947
It's amazing.
I love it. I enjoy it.
I love all facets of it.

733
00:22:29,949 --> 00:22:30,981
I love it. I enjoy it.
I love all facets of it.
You know, like, some people are

734
00:22:30,983 --> 00:22:33,317
I love all facets of it.
You know, like, some people are
like, "oh, you have to stay

735
00:22:33,319 --> 00:22:34,785
you know, like, some people are
like, "oh, you have to stay
in a specific box."

736
00:22:34,787 --> 00:22:36,020
like, "oh, you have to stay
in a specific box."
I don't believe in a box,

737
00:22:36,022 --> 00:22:37,455
in a specific box."
I don't believe in a box,
you know, whether from

738
00:22:37,457 --> 00:22:38,723
I don't believe in a box,
you know, whether from
my entrepreneurial side

739
00:22:38,725 --> 00:22:39,757
you know, whether from
my entrepreneurial side
of, you know, starting

740
00:22:39,759 --> 00:22:42,059
my entrepreneurial side
of, you know, starting
my spice line, keshia's kitchen.

741
00:22:42,061 --> 00:22:43,160
Of, you know, starting
my spice line, keshia's kitchen.
I'm one of those people, when

742
00:22:43,162 --> 00:22:44,929
my spice line, keshia's kitchen.
I'm one of those people, when
I'm inspired to do something,

743
00:22:44,931 --> 00:22:47,064
I'm one of those people, when
I'm inspired to do something,
whether it's cooking and spices,

744
00:22:47,066 --> 00:22:49,433
I'm inspired to do something,
whether it's cooking and spices,
I follow my passion and I do it,

745
00:22:49,435 --> 00:22:50,501
whether it's cooking and spices,
I follow my passion and I do it,
whether it's, you know,

746
00:22:50,503 --> 00:22:51,869
I follow my passion and I do it,
whether it's, you know,
giving back and providing

747
00:22:51,871 --> 00:22:53,904
whether it's, you know,
giving back and providing
opportunities for kids

748
00:22:53,906 --> 00:22:55,373
giving back and providing
opportunities for kids
who don't have them through

749
00:22:55,375 --> 00:22:57,141
opportunities for kids
who don't have them through
my kamp kizzy foundation.

750
00:22:57,143 --> 00:22:58,609
Who don't have them through
my kamp kizzy foundation.
That's just the core --

751
00:22:58,611 --> 00:22:59,944
my kamp kizzy foundation.
That's just the core --
core of who I am.

752
00:22:59,946 --> 00:23:00,945
That's just the core --
core of who I am.
You know, if you're not a part

753
00:23:00,947 --> 00:23:01,946
core of who I am.
You know, if you're not a part
of the solution, you're a part

754
00:23:01,948 --> 00:23:04,081
you know, if you're not a part
of the solution, you're a part
of the problem, and I

755
00:23:04,083 --> 00:23:08,052
of the solution, you're a part
of the problem, and I
live by that.

756
00:23:08,054 --> 00:23:09,987
Of the problem, and I
live by that.
I think when you give,

757
00:23:09,989 --> 00:23:11,422
live by that.
I think when you give,
it has to be from a place

758
00:23:11,424 --> 00:23:13,057
I think when you give,
it has to be from a place
of love and honesty

759
00:23:13,059 --> 00:23:14,525
it has to be from a place
of love and honesty
and authenticity

760
00:23:14,527 --> 00:23:16,794
of love and honesty
and authenticity
and void of ego.

761
00:23:16,796 --> 00:23:17,928
And authenticity
and void of ego.
You know, when you give to

762
00:23:17,930 --> 00:23:20,164
and void of ego.
You know, when you give to
someone, just seeing them

763
00:23:20,166 --> 00:23:21,298
you know, when you give to
someone, just seeing them
and acknowledging them

764
00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:23,367
someone, just seeing them
and acknowledging them
as human beings,

765
00:23:23,369 --> 00:23:24,702
and acknowledging them
as human beings,
I feel like there's something

766
00:23:24,704 --> 00:23:27,838
as human beings,
I feel like there's something
that -- that cheapens it

767
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,908
I feel like there's something
that -- that cheapens it
by being like, "look at me,"

768
00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:32,977
that -- that cheapens it
by being like, "look at me,"
because it's not about you.

769
00:23:32,979 --> 00:23:36,213
By being like, "look at me,"
because it's not about you.
It's about the people

770
00:23:36,215 --> 00:23:37,982
because it's not about you.
It's about the people
or the person

771
00:23:37,984 --> 00:23:40,518
it's about the people
or the person
that you are helping.

772
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,354
Or the person
that you are helping.
I feel like when you do

773
00:23:43,356 --> 00:23:45,456
that you are helping.
I feel like when you do
and you give

774
00:23:45,458 --> 00:23:49,593
I feel like when you do
and you give
and you make it about you,

775
00:23:49,595 --> 00:23:51,095
and you give
and you make it about you,
you might as well have not

776
00:23:51,097 --> 00:23:55,399
and you make it about you,
you might as well have not
given at all.

777
00:23:55,401 --> 00:23:57,268
You might as well have not
given at all.
As a human being,

778
00:23:57,270 --> 00:23:59,904
given at all.
As a human being,
you are deserving of love

779
00:23:59,906 --> 00:24:02,873
as a human being,
you are deserving of love
and respect, and it isn't about,

780
00:24:02,875 --> 00:24:05,376
you are deserving of love
and respect, and it isn't about,
"what you can do for me."

781
00:24:05,378 --> 00:24:06,911
and respect, and it isn't about,
"what you can do for me."
it isn't about your job title.

782
00:24:06,913 --> 00:24:07,912
"what you can do for me."
it isn't about your job title.
It isn't about your level

783
00:24:07,914 --> 00:24:09,880
it isn't about your job title.
It isn't about your level
of education.

784
00:24:09,882 --> 00:24:11,315
It isn't about your level
of education.
All people are human beings

785
00:24:11,317 --> 00:24:13,017
of education.
All people are human beings
and are deserving of that.

786
00:24:13,019 --> 00:24:14,752
All people are human beings
and are deserving of that.
And I'm going to treat

787
00:24:14,754 --> 00:24:18,789
and are deserving of that.
And I'm going to treat
the janitor the same as the ceo,

788
00:24:18,791 --> 00:24:20,558
and I'm going to treat
the janitor the same as the ceo,
because the other piece of it is

789
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,360
the janitor the same as the ceo,
because the other piece of it is
your job, your bank account,

790
00:24:23,362 --> 00:24:25,029
because the other piece of it is
your job, your bank account,
it doesn't denote your worth

791
00:24:25,031 --> 00:24:26,564
your job, your bank account,
it doesn't denote your worth
as a person.

792
00:24:26,566 --> 00:24:28,566
It doesn't denote your worth
as a person.
That can always change.

793
00:24:28,568 --> 00:24:29,567
As a person.
That can always change.
Have you ever encountered

794
00:24:29,569 --> 00:24:31,435
that can always change.
Have you ever encountered
those people who have been

795
00:24:31,437 --> 00:24:33,504
have you ever encountered
those people who have been
really unkind to someone

796
00:24:33,506 --> 00:24:34,705
those people who have been
really unkind to someone
when they weren't in a position

797
00:24:34,707 --> 00:24:36,607
really unkind to someone
when they weren't in a position
to help them but then as soon as

798
00:24:36,609 --> 00:24:37,808
when they weren't in a position
to help them but then as soon as
they become in a position,

799
00:24:37,810 --> 00:24:39,210
to help them but then as soon as
they become in a position,
their whole attitude

800
00:24:39,212 --> 00:24:40,211
they become in a position,
their whole attitude
and how you speak to them

801
00:24:40,213 --> 00:24:41,479
their whole attitude
and how you speak to them
and how you talk to them

802
00:24:41,481 --> 00:24:43,047
and how you speak to them
and how you talk to them
completely changes?

803
00:24:43,049 --> 00:24:44,081
And how you talk to them
completely changes?
I don't want to do business

804
00:24:44,083 --> 00:24:45,082
completely changes?
I don't want to do business
with someone like that.

805
00:24:45,084 --> 00:24:46,083
I don't want to do business
with someone like that.
I don't want to be friends with

806
00:24:46,085 --> 00:24:47,284
with someone like that.
I don't want to be friends with
someone like that.

807
00:24:47,286 --> 00:24:48,786
I don't want to be friends with
someone like that.
Because of that,

808
00:24:48,788 --> 00:24:50,387
someone like that.
Because of that,
it's also important to me the

809
00:24:50,389 --> 00:24:52,356
because of that,
it's also important to me the
people I surround myself with.

810
00:24:52,358 --> 00:24:54,024
It's also important to me the
people I surround myself with.
If you're on my team in any way,

811
00:24:54,026 --> 00:24:55,793
people I surround myself with.
If you're on my team in any way,
shape or form,

812
00:24:55,795 --> 00:24:57,328
if you're on my team in any way,
shape or form,
your representation of me

813
00:24:57,330 --> 00:24:58,629
shape or form,
your representation of me
and your energy has to be

814
00:24:58,631 --> 00:25:00,331
your representation of me
and your energy has to be
like and kind to that.

815
00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:02,299
And your energy has to be
like and kind to that.
And you can't talk to people

816
00:25:02,301 --> 00:25:04,168
like and kind to that.
And you can't talk to people
crazy because that's not

817
00:25:04,170 --> 00:25:06,170
and you can't talk to people
crazy because that's not
what we do over here.

818
00:25:06,172 --> 00:25:08,105
Crazy because that's not
what we do over here.
It's simply not.

819
00:25:08,107 --> 00:25:11,775
What we do over here.
It's simply not.
♪

820
00:25:11,777 --> 00:25:16,680
it's simply not.
♪
it makes me emotional because...

821
00:25:16,682 --> 00:25:18,816
♪
it makes me emotional because...
There are so many people

822
00:25:18,818 --> 00:25:22,353
it makes me emotional because...
There are so many people
that are blessed with so much.

823
00:25:22,355 --> 00:25:24,588
There are so many people
that are blessed with so much.
And there's so many people

824
00:25:24,590 --> 00:25:27,691
that are blessed with so much.
And there's so many people
who are praying for our worries.

825
00:25:27,693 --> 00:25:31,495
And there's so many people
who are praying for our worries.
And a lot of people

826
00:25:31,497 --> 00:25:33,030
who are praying for our worries.
And a lot of people
haven't been given the same

827
00:25:33,032 --> 00:25:35,766
and a lot of people
haven't been given the same
opportunities or,

828
00:25:35,768 --> 00:25:37,635
haven't been given the same
opportunities or,
you know, been blessed with

829
00:25:37,637 --> 00:25:40,538
opportunities or,
you know, been blessed with
the same experiences in life.

830
00:25:40,540 --> 00:25:41,906
You know, been blessed with
the same experiences in life.
But that doesn't change their

831
00:25:41,908 --> 00:25:44,141
the same experiences in life.
But that doesn't change their
worth as a human being to me.

832
00:25:44,143 --> 00:25:46,744
But that doesn't change their
worth as a human being to me.
I know that there is something

833
00:25:46,746 --> 00:25:48,579
worth as a human being to me.
I know that there is something
for me to learn from each

834
00:25:48,581 --> 00:25:50,481
I know that there is something
for me to learn from each
and every person,

835
00:25:50,483 --> 00:25:53,083
for me to learn from each
and every person,
and it breaks my heart

836
00:25:53,085 --> 00:25:55,219
and every person,
and it breaks my heart
when you encounter those people

837
00:25:55,221 --> 00:25:58,389
and it breaks my heart
when you encounter those people
who have been so invisible

838
00:25:58,391 --> 00:26:00,357
when you encounter those people
who have been so invisible
for so long.

839
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,661
Who have been so invisible
for so long.
And that's why giving back and

840
00:26:03,663 --> 00:26:06,196
for so long.
And that's why giving back and
community service and donating

841
00:26:06,198 --> 00:26:07,264
and that's why giving back and
community service and donating
and all of those things

842
00:26:07,266 --> 00:26:08,933
community service and donating
and all of those things
are so very important to me.

843
00:26:08,935 --> 00:26:10,367
And all of those things
are so very important to me.
You know, one of my favorite

844
00:26:10,369 --> 00:26:11,769
are so very important to me.
You know, one of my favorite
quotes is, "paying it forward

845
00:26:11,771 --> 00:26:13,103
you know, one of my favorite
quotes is, "paying it forward
and giving back is your rent

846
00:26:13,105 --> 00:26:14,572
quotes is, "paying it forward
and giving back is your rent
for this life on earth" --

847
00:26:14,574 --> 00:26:15,873
and giving back is your rent
for this life on earth" --
muhammad ali.

848
00:26:15,875 --> 00:26:17,207
For this life on earth" --
muhammad ali.
And I belie-- and I know that

849
00:26:17,209 --> 00:26:18,842
muhammad ali.
And I belie-- and I know that
to be true.

850
00:26:18,844 --> 00:26:20,778
And I belie-- and I know that
to be true.
And if you ever really think

851
00:26:20,780 --> 00:26:22,746
to be true.
And if you ever really think
about it, no one, no matter

852
00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:23,981
and if you ever really think
about it, no one, no matter
how successful you are,

853
00:26:23,983 --> 00:26:25,716
about it, no one, no matter
how successful you are,
has done it by yourself.

854
00:26:25,718 --> 00:26:27,251
How successful you are,
has done it by yourself.
There's always been a village.

855
00:26:27,253 --> 00:26:28,886
Has done it by yourself.
There's always been a village.
There's always been, you know,

856
00:26:28,888 --> 00:26:31,055
there's always been a village.
There's always been, you know,
people who sacrificed for you,

857
00:26:31,057 --> 00:26:33,023
there's always been, you know,
people who sacrificed for you,
that are present, that you

858
00:26:33,025 --> 00:26:34,692
people who sacrificed for you,
that are present, that you
may not even have ever known the

859
00:26:34,694 --> 00:26:36,393
that are present, that you
may not even have ever known the
sacrifices that were made.

860
00:26:36,395 --> 00:26:38,262
May not even have ever known the
sacrifices that were made.
And I believe it's our duty

861
00:26:38,264 --> 00:26:40,097
sacrifices that were made.
And I believe it's our duty
to continue to do that and to

862
00:26:40,099 --> 00:26:42,166
and I believe it's our duty
to continue to do that and to
continue to pay it forward.

863
00:26:42,168 --> 00:26:43,701
To continue to do that and to
continue to pay it forward.
And I think, also, when you come

864
00:26:43,703 --> 00:26:49,540
continue to pay it forward.
And I think, also, when you come
from just a family that

865
00:26:49,542 --> 00:26:51,241
and I think, also, when you come
from just a family that
that's what we've always done,

866
00:26:51,243 --> 00:26:52,810
from just a family that
that's what we've always done,
you know, it starts --

867
00:26:52,812 --> 00:26:54,111
that's what we've always done,
you know, it starts --
especially with our people,

868
00:26:54,113 --> 00:26:55,112
you know, it starts --
especially with our people,
with black people.

869
00:26:55,114 --> 00:26:56,146
Especially with our people,
with black people.
We do community service

870
00:26:56,148 --> 00:26:57,414
with black people.
We do community service
all the time and don't realize

871
00:26:57,416 --> 00:26:58,716
we do community service
all the time and don't realize
that's what it is.

872
00:26:58,718 --> 00:26:59,717
All the time and don't realize
that's what it is.
When you have the cousin

873
00:26:59,719 --> 00:27:01,051
that's what it is.
When you have the cousin
that needs to come stay with you

874
00:27:01,053 --> 00:27:03,654
when you have the cousin
that needs to come stay with you
or, you know, the family

875
00:27:03,656 --> 00:27:05,122
that needs to come stay with you
or, you know, the family
member who's on hard times,

876
00:27:05,124 --> 00:27:07,391
or, you know, the family
member who's on hard times,
who you help out or even just

877
00:27:07,393 --> 00:27:09,827
member who's on hard times,
who you help out or even just
how we do when you have a kid

878
00:27:09,829 --> 00:27:11,128
who you help out or even just
how we do when you have a kid
and the next person has a kid,

879
00:27:11,130 --> 00:27:12,997
how we do when you have a kid
and the next person has a kid,
you pass down the clothes to,

880
00:27:12,999 --> 00:27:14,331
and the next person has a kid,
you pass down the clothes to,
you know, all those things are

881
00:27:14,333 --> 00:27:15,966
you pass down the clothes to,
you know, all those things are
a form of paying it forward

882
00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:17,034
you know, all those things are
a form of paying it forward
that we have done out

883
00:27:17,036 --> 00:27:18,669
a form of paying it forward
that we have done out
of survival,

884
00:27:18,671 --> 00:27:19,903
that we have done out
of survival,
but not recognizing

885
00:27:19,905 --> 00:27:21,372
of survival,
but not recognizing
the importance of it

886
00:27:21,374 --> 00:27:22,873
but not recognizing
the importance of it
and continuing to do it

887
00:27:22,875 --> 00:27:23,307
the importance of it
and continuing to do it
on a large scale.

888
00:27:26,378 --> 00:27:34,385
♪
>> pulliam: It's funny because
our paths had crossed many times

889
00:27:34,387 --> 00:27:35,419
>> pulliam: It's funny because
our paths had crossed many times
before we actually

890
00:27:35,421 --> 00:27:36,520
our paths had crossed many times
before we actually
saw each other.

891
00:27:36,522 --> 00:27:38,255
Before we actually
saw each other.
I didn't even remember

892
00:27:38,257 --> 00:27:39,490
saw each other.
I didn't even remember
a lot of the times

893
00:27:39,492 --> 00:27:41,492
I didn't even remember
a lot of the times
we'd been in the same room

894
00:27:41,494 --> 00:27:42,960
a lot of the times
we'd been in the same room
or at the same event,

895
00:27:42,962 --> 00:27:44,461
we'd been in the same room
or at the same event,
and it's really funny because

896
00:27:44,463 --> 00:27:45,596
or at the same event,
and it's really funny because
there was actually a picture

897
00:27:45,598 --> 00:27:46,664
and it's really funny because
there was actually a picture
that we took at a party.

898
00:27:46,666 --> 00:27:47,665
There was actually a picture
that we took at a party.
Like, you know, when we're at

899
00:27:47,667 --> 00:27:48,732
that we took at a party.
Like, you know, when we're at
these parties, be like, "oh,

900
00:27:48,734 --> 00:27:49,733
like, you know, when we're at
these parties, be like, "oh,
take a picture."

901
00:27:49,735 --> 00:27:51,301
these parties, be like, "oh,
take a picture."
"okay, cool, take a picture."

902
00:27:51,303 --> 00:27:52,302
take a picture."
"okay, cool, take a picture."
I didn't even remember taking

903
00:27:52,304 --> 00:27:54,505
"okay, cool, take a picture."
I didn't even remember taking
this picture until my mother

904
00:27:54,507 --> 00:27:56,573
I didn't even remember taking
this picture until my mother
found it and sent it to us like,

905
00:27:56,575 --> 00:27:58,809
this picture until my mother
found it and sent it to us like,
"hey, look what I found,"

906
00:27:58,811 --> 00:28:01,111
found it and sent it to us like,
"hey, look what I found,"
that was taken years before

907
00:28:01,113 --> 00:28:03,213
"hey, look what I found,"
that was taken years before
we actually truly connected.

908
00:28:03,215 --> 00:28:06,950
That was taken years before
we actually truly connected.
And it's funny because I had

909
00:28:06,952 --> 00:28:08,619
we actually truly connected.
And it's funny because I had
just gotten to a place

910
00:28:08,621 --> 00:28:10,087
and it's funny because I had
just gotten to a place
in my life where I was like,

911
00:28:10,089 --> 00:28:12,856
just gotten to a place
in my life where I was like,
"okay, I'm ready to date again

912
00:28:12,858 --> 00:28:14,324
in my life where I was like,
"okay, I'm ready to date again
after divorce.

913
00:28:14,326 --> 00:28:15,325
"okay, I'm ready to date again
after divorce.
I'm ready."

914
00:28:15,327 --> 00:28:16,393
after divorce.
I'm ready."
because I feel like anyone who

915
00:28:16,395 --> 00:28:17,661
I'm ready."
because I feel like anyone who
goes through divorce understands

916
00:28:17,663 --> 00:28:19,763
because I feel like anyone who
goes through divorce understands
the space of almost

917
00:28:19,765 --> 00:28:22,499
goes through divorce understands
the space of almost
not trusting your own judgment.

918
00:28:22,501 --> 00:28:23,967
The space of almost
not trusting your own judgment.
And you have to rebuild

919
00:28:23,969 --> 00:28:25,869
not trusting your own judgment.
And you have to rebuild
and regain that trust

920
00:28:25,871 --> 00:28:28,072
and you have to rebuild
and regain that trust
in yourself and your intuition

921
00:28:28,074 --> 00:28:29,807
and regain that trust
in yourself and your intuition
and being able to spot

922
00:28:29,809 --> 00:28:30,908
in yourself and your intuition
and being able to spot
the right person, being able

923
00:28:30,910 --> 00:28:33,310
and being able to spot
the right person, being able
to know it when it happens.

924
00:28:33,312 --> 00:28:34,678
The right person, being able
to know it when it happens.
So I was in

925
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,413
to know it when it happens.
So I was in
what I call the season of yes.

926
00:28:36,415 --> 00:28:37,681
So I was in
what I call the season of yes.
Like, "okay, if this guy, even

927
00:28:37,683 --> 00:28:39,016
what I call the season of yes.
Like, "okay, if this guy, even
if he wasn't my type, okay.

928
00:28:39,018 --> 00:28:40,017
Like, "okay, if this guy, even
if he wasn't my type, okay.
If you ask me out to dinner,

929
00:28:40,019 --> 00:28:41,218
if he wasn't my type, okay.
If you ask me out to dinner,
sure," but still with

930
00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:42,219
if you ask me out to dinner,
sure," but still with
discernment.

931
00:28:42,221 --> 00:28:43,220
Sure," but still with
discernment.
We may go out to dinner.

932
00:28:43,222 --> 00:28:44,354
Discernment.
We may go out to dinner.
If intuition says

933
00:28:44,356 --> 00:28:46,657
we may go out to dinner.
If intuition says
"no, ma'am," I'm very okay

934
00:28:46,659 --> 00:28:47,958
if intuition says
"no, ma'am," I'm very okay
with keeping it moving.

935
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,226
"no, ma'am," I'm very okay
with keeping it moving.
Like, it was important for me

936
00:28:49,228 --> 00:28:51,328
with keeping it moving.
Like, it was important for me
to do the work on me and being

937
00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:54,131
like, it was important for me
to do the work on me and being
the best person that I can be,

938
00:28:54,133 --> 00:28:55,666
to do the work on me and being
the best person that I can be,
because if you don't do the work

939
00:28:55,668 --> 00:28:56,867
the best person that I can be,
because if you don't do the work
on you,

940
00:28:56,869 --> 00:28:59,670
because if you don't do the work
on you,
you can't even recognize it

941
00:28:59,672 --> 00:29:01,438
on you,
you can't even recognize it
when it presents itself.

942
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,340
You can't even recognize it
when it presents itself.
So I feel like, simultaneously,

943
00:29:03,342 --> 00:29:05,509
when it presents itself.
So I feel like, simultaneously,
we were both on these paths,

944
00:29:05,511 --> 00:29:06,777
so I feel like, simultaneously,
we were both on these paths,
very independent of one another,

945
00:29:06,779 --> 00:29:08,979
we were both on these paths,
very independent of one another,
and then these paths collide.

946
00:29:08,981 --> 00:29:12,316
Very independent of one another,
and then these paths collide.
♪

947
00:29:12,318 --> 00:29:14,017
and then these paths collide.
♪
we were on the set of

948
00:29:14,019 --> 00:29:15,586
♪
we were on the set of
"pride & prejudice," and as it

949
00:29:15,588 --> 00:29:17,054
we were on the set of
"pride & prejudice," and as it
happens, we ended up having a

950
00:29:17,056 --> 00:29:18,155
"pride & prejudice," and as it
happens, we ended up having a
lot of downtime kind of

951
00:29:18,157 --> 00:29:19,389
happens, we ended up having a
lot of downtime kind of
simultaneously,

952
00:29:19,391 --> 00:29:21,258
lot of downtime kind of
simultaneously,
or we were in scenes together.

953
00:29:21,260 --> 00:29:23,460
Simultaneously,
or we were in scenes together.
So we were just kind of chatting

954
00:29:23,462 --> 00:29:25,696
or we were in scenes together.
So we were just kind of chatting
and chopping it up, and he was,

955
00:29:25,698 --> 00:29:27,131
so we were just kind of chatting
and chopping it up, and he was,
you know, just easy to talk to.

956
00:29:27,133 --> 00:29:30,234
And chopping it up, and he was,
you know, just easy to talk to.
So I was so completely oblivious

957
00:29:30,236 --> 00:29:31,869
you know, just easy to talk to.
So I was so completely oblivious
to, I guess,

958
00:29:31,871 --> 00:29:33,871
so I was so completely oblivious
to, I guess,
him having a little crush on me.

959
00:29:33,873 --> 00:29:34,872
To, I guess,
him having a little crush on me.
And it's so funny.

960
00:29:34,874 --> 00:29:36,140
Him having a little crush on me.
And it's so funny.
I was just in l.A.,

961
00:29:36,142 --> 00:29:37,741
and it's so funny.
I was just in l.A.,
and kellee stewart,

962
00:29:37,743 --> 00:29:40,144
I was just in l.A.,
and kellee stewart,
who was also in this --

963
00:29:40,146 --> 00:29:42,513
and kellee stewart,
who was also in this --
in this movie,

964
00:29:42,515 --> 00:29:43,881
who was also in this --
in this movie,
she was on set, too.

965
00:29:43,883 --> 00:29:45,682
In this movie,
she was on set, too.
And then kellee is like,

966
00:29:45,684 --> 00:29:47,351
she was on set, too.
And then kellee is like,
"I think brad likes you."

967
00:29:47,353 --> 00:29:48,652
and then kellee is like,
"I think brad likes you."
I'm like, "no, he doesn't.

968
00:29:48,654 --> 00:29:49,920
"I think brad likes you."
I'm like, "no, he doesn't.
He's just cool, whatever."

969
00:29:49,922 --> 00:29:51,588
I'm like, "no, he doesn't.
He's just cool, whatever."
I'm still, like, completely

970
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:52,990
he's just cool, whatever."
I'm still, like, completely
over my head.

971
00:29:52,992 --> 00:29:54,291
I'm still, like, completely
over my head.
But now, in hindsight,

972
00:29:54,293 --> 00:29:55,759
over my head.
But now, in hindsight,
he did order hot krispy kreme

973
00:29:55,761 --> 00:29:57,661
but now, in hindsight,
he did order hot krispy kreme
doughnuts for us to the set.

974
00:29:57,663 --> 00:29:58,796
He did order hot krispy kreme
doughnuts for us to the set.
Then he was like,

975
00:29:58,798 --> 00:30:00,664
doughnuts for us to the set.
Then he was like,
"yeah, so I have this script

976
00:30:00,666 --> 00:30:01,732
then he was like,
"yeah, so I have this script
I want you to read.

977
00:30:01,734 --> 00:30:02,733
"yeah, so I have this script
I want you to read.
You know, you want to read it?"

978
00:30:02,735 --> 00:30:03,734
I want you to read.
You know, you want to read it?"
I was like, "yeah, of course

979
00:30:03,736 --> 00:30:04,802
you know, you want to read it?"
I was like, "yeah, of course
I'll read it." I'm like, "here."

980
00:30:04,804 --> 00:30:05,803
I was like, "yeah, of course
I'll read it." I'm like, "here."
I give him my phone.

981
00:30:05,805 --> 00:30:06,804
I'll read it." I'm like, "here."
I give him my phone.
I'm like, "here, put your

982
00:30:06,806 --> 00:30:07,805
I give him my phone.
I'm like, "here, put your
e-mail, put your information

983
00:30:07,807 --> 00:30:08,806
I'm like, "here, put your
e-mail, put your information
and what have you."

984
00:30:08,808 --> 00:30:10,307
e-mail, put your information
and what have you."
he puts his name,

985
00:30:10,309 --> 00:30:12,142
and what have you."
he puts his name,
he puts his birthday,

986
00:30:12,144 --> 00:30:13,677
he puts his name,
he puts his birthday,
he puts his e-mail address,

987
00:30:13,679 --> 00:30:14,745
he puts his birthday,
he puts his e-mail address,
and then he takes a selfie,

988
00:30:14,747 --> 00:30:15,746
he puts his e-mail address,
and then he takes a selfie,
a picture of himself

989
00:30:15,748 --> 00:30:17,014
and then he takes a selfie,
a picture of himself
for the profile

990
00:30:17,016 --> 00:30:18,949
a picture of himself
for the profile
and hands me my phone back.

991
00:30:18,951 --> 00:30:21,084
For the profile
and hands me my phone back.
I was like, "okay.

992
00:30:21,086 --> 00:30:22,686
And hands me my phone back.
I was like, "okay.
I've never had someone take

993
00:30:22,688 --> 00:30:24,388
I was like, "okay.
I've never had someone take
a picture with my phone

994
00:30:24,390 --> 00:30:26,190
I've never had someone take
a picture with my phone
for their profile pic,

995
00:30:26,192 --> 00:30:27,891
a picture with my phone
for their profile pic,
but that's cool."

996
00:30:27,893 --> 00:30:28,959
for their profile pic,
but that's cool."
he says I was giving him

997
00:30:28,961 --> 00:30:29,960
but that's cool."
he says I was giving him
the eyes, which these are just

998
00:30:29,962 --> 00:30:30,961
he says I was giving him
the eyes, which these are just
my eyes.

999
00:30:30,963 --> 00:30:32,095
The eyes, which these are just
my eyes.
I don't know what I was doing

1000
00:30:32,097 --> 00:30:33,931
my eyes.
I don't know what I was doing
special, but I'll let him tell

1001
00:30:33,933 --> 00:30:35,098
I don't know what I was doing
special, but I'll let him tell
his version another day because

1002
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:36,567
special, but I'll let him tell
his version another day because
this is my version.

1003
00:30:36,569 --> 00:30:37,734
His version another day because
this is my version.
So he comes over.

1004
00:30:37,736 --> 00:30:38,735
This is my version.
So he comes over.
We're supposed to be going over

1005
00:30:38,737 --> 00:30:39,937
so he comes over.
We're supposed to be going over
these scripts, but we end up

1006
00:30:39,939 --> 00:30:40,938
we're supposed to be going over
these scripts, but we end up
going to one restaurant and,

1007
00:30:40,940 --> 00:30:41,972
these scripts, but we end up
going to one restaurant and,
like, having some drinks.

1008
00:30:41,974 --> 00:30:42,973
Going to one restaurant and,
like, having some drinks.
Next little restaurant

1009
00:30:42,975 --> 00:30:43,974
like, having some drinks.
Next little restaurant
on the property, having --

1010
00:30:43,976 --> 00:30:44,975
next little restaurant
on the property, having --
like, sharing burgers.

1011
00:30:44,977 --> 00:30:46,176
On the property, having --
like, sharing burgers.
The next restaurant,

1012
00:30:46,178 --> 00:30:48,946
like, sharing burgers.
The next restaurant,
we ended up having dessert.

1013
00:30:48,948 --> 00:30:50,447
The next restaurant,
we ended up having dessert.
Didn't do an iota of work

1014
00:30:50,449 --> 00:30:52,049
we ended up having dessert.
Didn't do an iota of work
the whole time, but it was like,

1015
00:30:52,051 --> 00:30:53,984
didn't do an iota of work
the whole time, but it was like,
"okay, so I guess we'll do this,

1016
00:30:53,986 --> 00:30:55,118
the whole time, but it was like,
"okay, so I guess we'll do this,
try this again another time."

1017
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,320
"okay, so I guess we'll do this,
try this again another time."
and I guess we just kept trying

1018
00:30:56,322 --> 00:30:57,321
try this again another time."
and I guess we just kept trying
to get another time,

1019
00:30:57,323 --> 00:30:58,622
and I guess we just kept trying
to get another time,
and, lo and behold,

1020
00:30:58,624 --> 00:31:02,292
to get another time,
and, lo and behold,
that's the long short story

1021
00:31:02,294 --> 00:31:04,127
and, lo and behold,
that's the long short story
of the beginning.

1022
00:31:04,129 --> 00:31:05,529
That's the long short story
of the beginning.
But truthfully,

1023
00:31:05,531 --> 00:31:06,630
of the beginning.
But truthfully,
like, without all of that,

1024
00:31:06,632 --> 00:31:10,634
but truthfully,
like, without all of that,
it's just easy.

1025
00:31:10,636 --> 00:31:12,135
Like, without all of that,
it's just easy.
When you're with the person

1026
00:31:12,137 --> 00:31:13,670
it's just easy.
When you're with the person
that you're supposed to be with,

1027
00:31:13,672 --> 00:31:15,272
when you're with the person
that you're supposed to be with,
it's easy.

1028
00:31:15,274 --> 00:31:16,406
That you're supposed to be with,
it's easy.
You know, people tell you

1029
00:31:16,408 --> 00:31:17,507
it's easy.
You know, people tell you
relationships are hard

1030
00:31:17,509 --> 00:31:18,508
you know, people tell you
relationships are hard
and all this stuff.

1031
00:31:18,510 --> 00:31:21,879
Relationships are hard
and all this stuff.
But the hard part isn't hard.

1032
00:31:21,881 --> 00:31:24,081
And all this stuff.
But the hard part isn't hard.
It's just putting in the work

1033
00:31:24,083 --> 00:31:25,415
but the hard part isn't hard.
It's just putting in the work
with one another.

1034
00:31:25,417 --> 00:31:26,450
It's just putting in the work
with one another.
We always look at it

1035
00:31:26,452 --> 00:31:27,618
with one another.
We always look at it
from the standpoint of,

1036
00:31:27,620 --> 00:31:29,186
we always look at it
from the standpoint of,
if we're both giving,

1037
00:31:29,188 --> 00:31:30,654
from the standpoint of,
if we're both giving,
then no one is feeling

1038
00:31:30,656 --> 00:31:31,955
if we're both giving,
then no one is feeling
as though they're depleted

1039
00:31:31,957 --> 00:31:33,490
then no one is feeling
as though they're depleted
if we're -- if our focus

1040
00:31:33,492 --> 00:31:35,559
as though they're depleted
if we're -- if our focus
is both pouring into each other

1041
00:31:35,561 --> 00:31:37,194
if we're -- if our focus
is both pouring into each other
and our relationship.

1042
00:31:37,196 --> 00:31:39,062
Is both pouring into each other
and our relationship.
But, yeah, so we were on the set

1043
00:31:39,064 --> 00:31:40,330
and our relationship.
But, yeah, so we were on the set
of "pride & prejudice,"

1044
00:31:40,332 --> 00:31:41,798
but, yeah, so we were on the set
of "pride & prejudice,"
and we were filming

1045
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,833
of "pride & prejudice,"
and we were filming
around the holiday time.

1046
00:31:42,835 --> 00:31:44,301
And we were filming
around the holiday time.
Thanksgiving was coming up.

1047
00:31:44,303 --> 00:31:45,302
Around the holiday time.
Thanksgiving was coming up.
And we're asking about like,

1048
00:31:45,304 --> 00:31:46,303
thanksgiving was coming up.
And we're asking about like,
"what are your thanksgiving

1049
00:31:46,305 --> 00:31:48,005
and we're asking about like,
"what are your thanksgiving
plans," that sort of thing.

1050
00:31:48,007 --> 00:31:50,240
"what are your thanksgiving
plans," that sort of thing.
And so brad says that, you know,

1051
00:31:50,242 --> 00:31:51,375
plans," that sort of thing.
And so brad says that, you know,
he was supposed to be going

1052
00:31:51,377 --> 00:31:53,210
and so brad says that, you know,
he was supposed to be going
on a cruise with his family,

1053
00:31:53,212 --> 00:31:55,279
he was supposed to be going
on a cruise with his family,
but then he ended up booking,

1054
00:31:55,281 --> 00:31:56,346
on a cruise with his family,
but then he ended up booking,
you know, this movie happening,

1055
00:31:56,348 --> 00:31:57,748
but then he ended up booking,
you know, this movie happening,
the timing of the movie,

1056
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:59,116
you know, this movie happening,
the timing of the movie,
so his family was going on

1057
00:31:59,118 --> 00:32:00,617
the timing of the movie,
so his family was going on
the cruise without him.

1058
00:32:00,619 --> 00:32:01,652
So his family was going on
the cruise without him.
So I was like,

1059
00:32:01,654 --> 00:32:02,653
the cruise without him.
So I was like,
oh, well, you're welcome

1060
00:32:02,655 --> 00:32:03,787
so I was like,
oh, well, you're welcome
to come over for thanksgiving,"

1061
00:32:03,789 --> 00:32:04,855
oh, well, you're welcome
to come over for thanksgiving,"
because my brother was hosting

1062
00:32:04,857 --> 00:32:05,856
to come over for thanksgiving,"
because my brother was hosting
thanksgiving.

1063
00:32:05,858 --> 00:32:08,258
Because my brother was hosting
thanksgiving.
And we have, as you can probably

1064
00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:09,660
thanksgiving.
And we have, as you can probably
deduce, a large, big,

1065
00:32:09,662 --> 00:32:11,395
and we have, as you can probably
deduce, a large, big,
boisterous, fun family.

1066
00:32:11,397 --> 00:32:12,396
Deduce, a large, big,
boisterous, fun family.
You know how you throw out the

1067
00:32:12,398 --> 00:32:13,397
boisterous, fun family.
You know how you throw out the
invitation?

1068
00:32:13,399 --> 00:32:15,299
You know how you throw out the
invitation?
But then he actually -- he came.

1069
00:32:15,301 --> 00:32:16,300
Invitation?
But then he actually -- he came.
Then he was like, "well,

1070
00:32:16,302 --> 00:32:17,634
but then he actually -- he came.
Then he was like, "well,
you know, my daughter decided,

1071
00:32:17,636 --> 00:32:18,635
then he was like, "well,
you know, my daughter decided,
you know, that she's not going

1072
00:32:18,637 --> 00:32:19,636
you know, my daughter decided,
you know, that she's not going
to go either because she's

1073
00:32:19,638 --> 00:32:20,637
you know, that she's not going
to go either because she's
working."

1074
00:32:20,639 --> 00:32:23,140
to go either because she's
working."
so he comes to thanksgiving,

1075
00:32:23,142 --> 00:32:25,509
working."
so he comes to thanksgiving,
and he walks into this house

1076
00:32:25,511 --> 00:32:26,944
so he comes to thanksgiving,
and he walks into this house
full of family

1077
00:32:26,946 --> 00:32:29,579
and he walks into this house
full of family
and people and music and food,

1078
00:32:29,581 --> 00:32:33,850
full of family
and people and music and food,
and just he just fit right in.

1079
00:32:33,852 --> 00:32:35,585
And people and music and food,
and just he just fit right in.
I took note that he was able to

1080
00:32:35,587 --> 00:32:36,653
and just he just fit right in.
I took note that he was able to
come into the room,

1081
00:32:36,655 --> 00:32:38,555
I took note that he was able to
come into the room,
move with ease, blend in,

1082
00:32:38,557 --> 00:32:39,856
come into the room,
move with ease, blend in,
have conversations,

1083
00:32:39,858 --> 00:32:40,958
move with ease, blend in,
have conversations,
like, you know,

1084
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,026
have conversations,
like, you know,
and it be effortlessly done.

1085
00:32:43,028 --> 00:32:44,294
Like, you know,
and it be effortlessly done.
And so, this whole time,

1086
00:32:44,296 --> 00:32:46,029
and it be effortlessly done.
And so, this whole time,
of course, I have all brothers.

1087
00:32:46,031 --> 00:32:47,364
And so, this whole time,
of course, I have all brothers.
And my family always jokes

1088
00:32:47,366 --> 00:32:48,365
of course, I have all brothers.
And my family always jokes
to this day because I'm like,

1089
00:32:48,367 --> 00:32:50,300
and my family always jokes
to this day because I'm like,
"no, he's just my castmate.

1090
00:32:50,302 --> 00:32:51,401
To this day because I'm like,
"no, he's just my castmate.
It's nothing like that."

1091
00:32:51,403 --> 00:32:52,402
"no, he's just my castmate.
It's nothing like that."
they're like, "mm-hmm.

1092
00:32:52,404 --> 00:32:53,537
It's nothing like that."
they're like, "mm-hmm.
Castmates. Okay.

1093
00:32:53,539 --> 00:32:54,838
They're like, "mm-hmm.
Castmates. Okay.
Okay, castmates."

1094
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,872
castmates. Okay.
Okay, castmates."
so that was, like, the running

1095
00:32:55,874 --> 00:32:57,407
okay, castmates."
so that was, like, the running
joke of thanksgiving.

1096
00:32:57,409 --> 00:32:58,642
So that was, like, the running
joke of thanksgiving.
And so, then his daughter did

1097
00:32:58,644 --> 00:32:59,710
joke of thanksgiving.
And so, then his daughter did
come, and that was funny

1098
00:32:59,712 --> 00:33:02,212
and so, then his daughter did
come, and that was funny
because, you know, she was about

1099
00:33:02,214 --> 00:33:03,947
come, and that was funny
because, you know, she was about
to be 18 at the time.

1100
00:33:03,949 --> 00:33:05,649
Because, you know, she was about
to be 18 at the time.
And brad got married

1101
00:33:05,651 --> 00:33:06,717
to be 18 at the time.
And brad got married
really young, so his children

1102
00:33:06,719 --> 00:33:07,818
and brad got married
really young, so his children
are older.

1103
00:33:07,820 --> 00:33:09,019
Really young, so his children
are older.
So everyone was like, "oh, no,

1104
00:33:09,021 --> 00:33:10,087
are older.
So everyone was like, "oh, no,
this negro did not

1105
00:33:10,089 --> 00:33:11,455
so everyone was like, "oh, no,
this negro did not
bring a chick to thanksgiving."

1106
00:33:11,457 --> 00:33:12,456
this negro did not
bring a chick to thanksgiving."
and I'm like, "no, y'all, that's

1107
00:33:12,458 --> 00:33:13,457
bring a chick to thanksgiving."
and I'm like, "no, y'all, that's
his daughter.

1108
00:33:13,459 --> 00:33:14,458
And I'm like, "no, y'all, that's
his daughter.
They were like, "oh, okay.

1109
00:33:14,460 --> 00:33:15,459
His daughter.
They were like, "oh, okay.
I'm just checking."

1110
00:33:15,461 --> 00:33:16,326
they were like, "oh, okay.
I'm just checking."
because, you know, it's, like,

1111
00:33:16,328 --> 00:33:16,994
I'm just checking."
because, you know, it's, like,
all my aunties.

1112
00:33:16,996 --> 00:33:17,995
Because, you know, it's, like,
all my aunties.
It was, like, one of those

1113
00:33:17,997 --> 00:33:18,996
all my aunties.
It was, like, one of those
kind of thanksgivings.

1114
00:33:18,998 --> 00:33:19,997
It was, like, one of those
kind of thanksgivings.
And I think shortly after

1115
00:33:19,999 --> 00:33:21,064
kind of thanksgivings.
And I think shortly after
thanksgiving, that was

1116
00:33:21,066 --> 00:33:23,100
and I think shortly after
thanksgiving, that was
when things really took a turn.

1117
00:33:23,102 --> 00:33:26,303
Thanksgiving, that was
when things really took a turn.
And we both realized that this

1118
00:33:26,305 --> 00:33:28,071
when things really took a turn.
And we both realized that this
was a little more than friends.

1119
00:33:28,073 --> 00:33:29,172
And we both realized that this
was a little more than friends.
And I'm not gonna lie, because

1120
00:33:29,174 --> 00:33:30,674
was a little more than friends.
And I'm not gonna lie, because
I was like, "eh, you know?

1121
00:33:30,676 --> 00:33:31,742
And I'm not gonna lie, because
I was like, "eh, you know?
I don't know.

1122
00:33:31,744 --> 00:33:32,743
I was like, "eh, you know?
I don't know.
I don't really do light-skinned

1123
00:33:32,745 --> 00:33:33,744
I don't know.
I don't really do light-skinned
boys."

1124
00:33:33,746 --> 00:33:35,412
I don't really do light-skinned
boys."
my family is very black.

1125
00:33:35,414 --> 00:33:36,413
Boys."
my family is very black.
Like, we are blackity,

1126
00:33:36,415 --> 00:33:37,414
my family is very black.
Like, we are blackity,
black, black, black.

1127
00:33:37,416 --> 00:33:38,482
Like, we are blackity,
black, black, black.
And I'm not sure how this is

1128
00:33:38,484 --> 00:33:39,683
black, black, black.
And I'm not sure how this is
gonna work out.

1129
00:33:39,685 --> 00:33:42,386
And I'm not sure how this is
gonna work out.
But then, new year's day,

1130
00:33:42,388 --> 00:33:43,553
gonna work out.
But then, new year's day,
he invited me

1131
00:33:43,555 --> 00:33:44,688
but then, new year's day,
he invited me
to his grandfather's

1132
00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:46,223
he invited me
to his grandfather's
85th birthday party.

1133
00:33:46,225 --> 00:33:47,224
To his grandfather's
85th birthday party.
He was like, "oh, we're getting

1134
00:33:47,226 --> 00:33:48,225
85th birthday party.
He was like, "oh, we're getting
together at my aunt's house.

1135
00:33:48,227 --> 00:33:49,226
He was like, "oh, we're getting
together at my aunt's house.
It's just" --

1136
00:33:49,228 --> 00:33:51,094
together at my aunt's house.
It's just" --
basically, I walked in

1137
00:33:51,096 --> 00:33:53,830
it's just" --
basically, I walked in
to his family being exactly

1138
00:33:53,832 --> 00:33:55,098
basically, I walked in
to his family being exactly
like my family,

1139
00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:56,099
to his family being exactly
like my family,
and I was like, "oh, okay, yeah,

1140
00:33:56,101 --> 00:33:57,334
like my family,
and I was like, "oh, okay, yeah,
this will work.

1141
00:33:57,336 --> 00:33:58,602
And I was like, "oh, okay, yeah,
this will work.
This works."

1142
00:33:58,604 --> 00:34:00,270
this will work.
This works."
you know, something we're both

1143
00:34:00,272 --> 00:34:02,806
this works."
you know, something we're both
very focused on is, what is it

1144
00:34:02,808 --> 00:34:06,243
you know, something we're both
very focused on is, what is it
that we want to pass down

1145
00:34:06,245 --> 00:34:07,577
very focused on is, what is it
that we want to pass down
and the legacy that we want

1146
00:34:07,579 --> 00:34:09,780
that we want to pass down
and the legacy that we want
to leave to our children?

1147
00:34:09,782 --> 00:34:12,249
And the legacy that we want
to leave to our children?
And it is very much this legacy

1148
00:34:12,251 --> 00:34:15,318
to leave to our children?
And it is very much this legacy
of love and this legacy of,

1149
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,056
and it is very much this legacy
of love and this legacy of,
you know, family isn't always

1150
00:34:19,058 --> 00:34:21,491
of love and this legacy of,
you know, family isn't always
by blood, but it's also

1151
00:34:21,493 --> 00:34:22,692
you know, family isn't always
by blood, but it's also
the people that you choose,

1152
00:34:22,694 --> 00:34:23,894
by blood, but it's also
the people that you choose,
the people who show up for you,

1153
00:34:23,896 --> 00:34:25,328
the people that you choose,
the people who show up for you,
the people that love you,

1154
00:34:25,330 --> 00:34:27,097
the people who show up for you,
the people that love you,
the people that support you.

1155
00:34:27,099 --> 00:34:31,068
The people that love you,
the people that support you.
And that's the kind of family

1156
00:34:31,070 --> 00:34:33,303
the people that support you.
And that's the kind of family
that we have.

1157
00:34:33,305 --> 00:34:36,640
And that's the kind of family
that we have.
♪

1158
00:34:36,642 --> 00:34:38,675
that we have.
♪
so at this point, we had

1159
00:34:38,677 --> 00:34:41,011
♪
so at this point, we had
decided, "okay, we want a baby

1160
00:34:41,013 --> 00:34:43,513
so at this point, we had
decided, "okay, we want a baby
but not now, so we're going

1161
00:34:43,515 --> 00:34:44,981
decided, "okay, we want a baby
but not now, so we're going
to freeze our eggs."

1162
00:34:44,983 --> 00:34:46,216
but not now, so we're going
to freeze our eggs."
we'd gone through the whole --

1163
00:34:46,218 --> 00:34:47,317
to freeze our eggs."
we'd gone through the whole --
the blood work, the process

1164
00:34:47,319 --> 00:34:49,519
we'd gone through the whole --
the blood work, the process
to start.

1165
00:34:49,521 --> 00:34:51,021
The blood work, the process
to start.
The pandemic hits.

1166
00:34:51,023 --> 00:34:52,022
To start.
The pandemic hits.
What a lot of people

1167
00:34:52,024 --> 00:34:53,190
the pandemic hits.
What a lot of people
don't realize is that

1168
00:34:53,192 --> 00:34:55,859
what a lot of people
don't realize is that
when covid hit, it shut down

1169
00:34:55,861 --> 00:34:57,494
don't realize is that
when covid hit, it shut down
all elective procedures,

1170
00:34:57,496 --> 00:34:59,930
when covid hit, it shut down
all elective procedures,
including ivf, egg freezing,

1171
00:34:59,932 --> 00:35:01,264
all elective procedures,
including ivf, egg freezing,
including if you had

1172
00:35:01,266 --> 00:35:04,267
including ivf, egg freezing,
including if you had
cancer, getting mastectomies.

1173
00:35:04,269 --> 00:35:06,870
Including if you had
cancer, getting mastectomies.
Like, it shut down everything.

1174
00:35:06,872 --> 00:35:08,105
Cancer, getting mastectomies.
Like, it shut down everything.
So people suffered

1175
00:35:08,107 --> 00:35:09,873
like, it shut down everything.
So people suffered
in a lot of ways

1176
00:35:09,875 --> 00:35:12,676
so people suffered
in a lot of ways
because of this world shutdown.

1177
00:35:12,678 --> 00:35:18,115
In a lot of ways
because of this world shutdown.
So we decided, probably about

1178
00:35:18,117 --> 00:35:19,382
because of this world shutdown.
So we decided, probably about
a year or two later that,

1179
00:35:19,384 --> 00:35:22,319
so we decided, probably about
a year or two later that,
you know, "no, we do want

1180
00:35:22,321 --> 00:35:24,988
a year or two later that,
you know, "no, we do want
to start our family."

1181
00:35:24,990 --> 00:35:30,060
you know, "no, we do want
to start our family."
and, like a lot of people,

1182
00:35:30,062 --> 00:35:32,095
to start our family."
and, like a lot of people,
it didn't happen as effortlessly

1183
00:35:32,097 --> 00:35:35,298
and, like a lot of people,
it didn't happen as effortlessly
as we hoped.

1184
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:37,701
It didn't happen as effortlessly
as we hoped.
We lost a baby.

1185
00:35:37,703 --> 00:35:41,571
As we hoped.
We lost a baby.
We did several rounds of ivf.

1186
00:35:41,573 --> 00:35:42,973
We lost a baby.
We did several rounds of ivf.
And people don't tell you

1187
00:35:42,975 --> 00:35:45,509
we did several rounds of ivf.
And people don't tell you
that it takes more than one.

1188
00:35:45,511 --> 00:35:48,812
And people don't tell you
that it takes more than one.
So it's -- it's a process.

1189
00:35:48,814 --> 00:35:51,414
That it takes more than one.
So it's -- it's a process.
We're still on the journey.

1190
00:35:51,416 --> 00:35:54,284
So it's -- it's a process.
We're still on the journey.
And even with that,

1191
00:35:54,286 --> 00:35:56,286
we're still on the journey.
And even with that,
I regret none of it,

1192
00:35:56,288 --> 00:35:59,523
and even with that,
I regret none of it,
if anything, especially with

1193
00:35:59,525 --> 00:36:01,758
I regret none of it,
if anything, especially with
what's going on in this world,

1194
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,493
if anything, especially with
what's going on in this world,
with overturning

1195
00:36:03,495 --> 00:36:04,528
what's going on in this world,
with overturning
roe vs. Wade.

1196
00:36:04,530 --> 00:36:06,029
With overturning
roe vs. Wade.
People don't understand

1197
00:36:06,031 --> 00:36:08,498
roe vs. Wade.
People don't understand
the impact that it has,

1198
00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:10,033
people don't understand
the impact that it has,
not just on people

1199
00:36:10,035 --> 00:36:11,835
the impact that it has,
not just on people
who may not choose

1200
00:36:11,837 --> 00:36:13,570
not just on people
who may not choose
to have a baby right now,

1201
00:36:13,572 --> 00:36:16,406
who may not choose
to have a baby right now,
but the implications it will

1202
00:36:16,408 --> 00:36:17,841
to have a baby right now,
but the implications it will
have for women who do have

1203
00:36:17,843 --> 00:36:20,210
but the implications it will
have for women who do have
miscarriages, having to prove

1204
00:36:20,212 --> 00:36:22,145
have for women who do have
miscarriages, having to prove
that it was a natural occurrence

1205
00:36:22,147 --> 00:36:23,713
miscarriages, having to prove
that it was a natural occurrence
that happens for so many women.

1206
00:36:23,715 --> 00:36:25,415
That it was a natural occurrence
that happens for so many women.
Can you imagine

1207
00:36:25,417 --> 00:36:27,984
that happens for so many women.
Can you imagine
having to lose your baby

1208
00:36:27,986 --> 00:36:31,488
can you imagine
having to lose your baby
and then be blamed for it?

1209
00:36:31,490 --> 00:36:33,557
Having to lose your baby
and then be blamed for it?
It's putting ivf in jeopardy,

1210
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:34,624
and then be blamed for it?
It's putting ivf in jeopardy,
because as you're creating

1211
00:36:34,626 --> 00:36:35,625
it's putting ivf in jeopardy,
because as you're creating
embryos, you may have

1212
00:36:35,627 --> 00:36:37,427
because as you're creating
embryos, you may have
abnormal embryos.

1213
00:36:37,429 --> 00:36:38,762
Embryos, you may have
abnormal embryos.
And then with these laws

1214
00:36:38,764 --> 00:36:40,063
abnormal embryos.
And then with these laws
being changed,

1215
00:36:40,065 --> 00:36:43,967
and then with these laws
being changed,
you're held criminally liable

1216
00:36:43,969 --> 00:36:47,037
being changed,
you're held criminally liable
for embryos that, in no way,

1217
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,039
you're held criminally liable
for embryos that, in no way,
are viable.

1218
00:36:49,041 --> 00:36:51,208
For embryos that, in no way,
are viable.
So I want people to think about

1219
00:36:51,210 --> 00:36:53,677
are viable.
So I want people to think about
all of those things

1220
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:57,480
so I want people to think about
all of those things
and where we are as a society,

1221
00:36:57,482 --> 00:36:59,249
all of those things
and where we are as a society,
because we're treading on

1222
00:36:59,251 --> 00:37:01,585
and where we are as a society,
because we're treading on
some really slippery slopes.

1223
00:37:01,587 --> 00:37:03,119
Because we're treading on
some really slippery slopes.
Do you know the heartbreak

1224
00:37:03,121 --> 00:37:04,721
some really slippery slopes.
Do you know the heartbreak
of wanting a baby

1225
00:37:04,723 --> 00:37:07,123
do you know the heartbreak
of wanting a baby
and having to make the choice

1226
00:37:07,125 --> 00:37:08,959
of wanting a baby
and having to make the choice
because there is no heartbeat or

1227
00:37:08,961 --> 00:37:10,927
and having to make the choice
because there is no heartbeat or
it's not viable and your past,

1228
00:37:10,929 --> 00:37:11,928
because there is no heartbeat or
it's not viable and your past,
whatever, the six weeks

1229
00:37:11,930 --> 00:37:14,331
it's not viable and your past,
whatever, the six weeks
or whatever they tell you it is

1230
00:37:14,333 --> 00:37:16,166
whatever, the six weeks
or whatever they tell you it is
and then it becomes

1231
00:37:16,168 --> 00:37:18,535
or whatever they tell you it is
and then it becomes
a choice of your life?

1232
00:37:18,537 --> 00:37:19,669
And then it becomes
a choice of your life?
These are the things

1233
00:37:19,671 --> 00:37:23,039
a choice of your life?
These are the things
that are at stake.

1234
00:37:23,041 --> 00:37:26,243
These are the things
that are at stake.
So with all that, we're at

1235
00:37:26,245 --> 00:37:30,146
that are at stake.
So with all that, we're at
a really important crossroads.

1236
00:37:30,148 --> 00:37:33,316
So with all that, we're at
a really important crossroads.
And it's so vital.

1237
00:37:33,318 --> 00:37:36,720
A really important crossroads.
And it's so vital.
For as much as it hurts,

1238
00:37:36,722 --> 00:37:40,657
and it's so vital.
For as much as it hurts,
we have to share our stories.

1239
00:37:40,659 --> 00:37:43,660
For as much as it hurts,
we have to share our stories.
You never know...

1240
00:37:43,662 --> 00:37:45,161
We have to share our stories.
You never know...
What someone else

1241
00:37:45,163 --> 00:37:45,595
you never know...
What someone else
is going through.

1242
00:37:50,134 --> 00:37:52,035
>> you are quite the cook --

1243
00:37:52,169 --> 00:37:53,803
chef maybe, baker.

1244
00:37:53,938 --> 00:37:55,171
You love it.

1245
00:37:55,306 --> 00:37:57,073
So tell us, is that what is

1246
00:37:57,208 --> 00:37:57,741
another creative outlet for you?

1247
00:37:59,277 --> 00:38:04,047
>> pulliam: Absolutely.
I've loved cooking and baking.
It's a way that I show love

1248
00:38:04,049 --> 00:38:06,283
I've loved cooking and baking.
It's a way that I show love
since I was a little -- a child.

1249
00:38:06,285 --> 00:38:08,018
It's a way that I show love
since I was a little -- a child.
So, yeah, that was part of why

1250
00:38:08,020 --> 00:38:10,287
since I was a little -- a child.
So, yeah, that was part of why
I developed keshia's kitchen.

1251
00:38:10,289 --> 00:38:11,888
So, yeah, that was part of why
I developed keshia's kitchen.
It was important for me

1252
00:38:11,890 --> 00:38:14,157
I developed keshia's kitchen.
It was important for me
to share that love of cooking,

1253
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:16,159
it was important for me
to share that love of cooking,
and I wanted to create

1254
00:38:16,161 --> 00:38:18,328
to share that love of cooking,
and I wanted to create
a one-stop shop for people

1255
00:38:18,330 --> 00:38:19,696
and I wanted to create
a one-stop shop for people
to cook with so they knew

1256
00:38:19,698 --> 00:38:20,697
a one-stop shop for people
to cook with so they knew
their food would be good.

1257
00:38:20,699 --> 00:38:22,198
To cook with so they knew
their food would be good.
Of course, just don't burn it.

1258
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,633
Their food would be good.
Of course, just don't burn it.
But if you season it with this,

1259
00:38:23,635 --> 00:38:24,901
of course, just don't burn it.
But if you season it with this,
you will have an amazing meal.

1260
00:38:24,903 --> 00:38:26,169
But if you season it with this,
you will have an amazing meal.
>> you know, they want -- if

1261
00:38:26,171 --> 00:38:27,203
you will have an amazing meal.
>> you know, they want -- if
they don't know where to get

1262
00:38:27,205 --> 00:38:28,538
>> you know, they want -- if
they don't know where to get
them, where do they get them?

1263
00:38:28,540 --> 00:38:29,539
They don't know where to get
them, where do they get them?
>> pulliam: Well, I did it

1264
00:38:29,541 --> 00:38:32,042
them, where do they get them?
>> pulliam: Well, I did it
online, so keshiaskitchen.Com.

1265
00:38:32,044 --> 00:38:33,910
>> pulliam: Well, I did it
online, so keshiaskitchen.Com.
I've actually recently had

1266
00:38:33,912 --> 00:38:35,578
online, so keshiaskitchen.Com.
I've actually recently had
some -- some interest with --

1267
00:38:35,580 --> 00:38:37,013
I've actually recently had
some -- some interest with --
with putting it in stores,

1268
00:38:37,015 --> 00:38:38,448
some -- some interest with --
with putting it in stores,
and that's something

1269
00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:40,083
with putting it in stores,
and that's something
that we are looking to do

1270
00:38:40,085 --> 00:38:41,384
and that's something
that we are looking to do
as we grow the brand.

1271
00:38:41,386 --> 00:38:42,385
That we are looking to do
as we grow the brand.
>> see, I was going to say,

1272
00:38:42,387 --> 00:38:43,586
as we grow the brand.
>> see, I was going to say,
"oh, I would love to see, like,

1273
00:38:43,588 --> 00:38:44,888
>> see, I was going to say,
"oh, I would love to see, like,
a cooking show, you know,

1274
00:38:44,890 --> 00:38:46,589
"oh, I would love to see, like,
a cooking show, you know,
a family cooking show, but maybe

1275
00:38:46,591 --> 00:38:47,857
a cooking show, you know,
a family cooking show, but maybe
a whole lifestyle channel."

1276
00:38:47,859 --> 00:38:49,059
a family cooking show, but maybe
a whole lifestyle channel."
>> pulliam: And that's it.

1277
00:38:49,061 --> 00:38:50,226
A whole lifestyle channel."
>> pulliam: And that's it.
We're using this as the

1278
00:38:50,228 --> 00:38:51,861
>> pulliam: And that's it.
We're using this as the
prototype for what it looks like

1279
00:38:51,863 --> 00:38:52,862
we're using this as the
prototype for what it looks like
moving forward.

1280
00:38:52,864 --> 00:38:53,863
Prototype for what it looks like
moving forward.
>> and the best part --

1281
00:38:53,865 --> 00:38:54,998
moving forward.
>> and the best part --
it's authentic, you know?

1282
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,632
>> and the best part --
it's authentic, you know?
This is how you like to live.

1283
00:39:00,938 --> 00:39:05,308
>> pulliam: "girlfriends'
summer getaway" that I directed
and brad stars in,

1284
00:39:05,310 --> 00:39:06,676
summer getaway" that I directed
and brad stars in,
I'm really excited for people

1285
00:39:06,678 --> 00:39:08,678
and brad stars in,
I'm really excited for people
to see that because this is

1286
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:09,679
I'm really excited for people
to see that because this is
really -- of course, you know,

1287
00:39:09,681 --> 00:39:11,014
to see that because this is
really -- of course, you know,
I've directed "house of payne,"

1288
00:39:11,016 --> 00:39:12,749
really -- of course, you know,
I've directed "house of payne,"
but it was very much a machine

1289
00:39:12,751 --> 00:39:14,084
I've directed "house of payne,"
but it was very much a machine
that was already going.

1290
00:39:14,086 --> 00:39:15,685
But it was very much a machine
that was already going.
This I was involved with

1291
00:39:15,687 --> 00:39:17,087
that was already going.
This I was involved with
from the ground up,

1292
00:39:17,089 --> 00:39:18,955
this I was involved with
from the ground up,
and I was very deliberate.

1293
00:39:18,957 --> 00:39:20,557
From the ground up,
and I was very deliberate.
It's about three girlfriends.

1294
00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:21,991
And I was very deliberate.
It's about three girlfriends.
They're all black women.

1295
00:39:21,993 --> 00:39:23,259
It's about three girlfriends.
They're all black women.
But I wanted to show the beauty

1296
00:39:23,261 --> 00:39:25,462
they're all black women.
But I wanted to show the beauty
and the variety of us.

1297
00:39:25,464 --> 00:39:26,796
But I wanted to show the beauty
and the variety of us.
You know, tamara,

1298
00:39:26,798 --> 00:39:27,797
and the variety of us.
You know, tamara,
who I adore, by the way --

1299
00:39:27,799 --> 00:39:28,798
you know, tamara,
who I adore, by the way --
it was funny.

1300
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,033
Who I adore, by the way --
it was funny.
We worked together, and we've

1301
00:39:30,035 --> 00:39:31,134
it was funny.
We worked together, and we've
grown up in this business,

1302
00:39:31,136 --> 00:39:32,702
we worked together, and we've
grown up in this business,
but it's actually our first time

1303
00:39:32,704 --> 00:39:33,870
grown up in this business,
but it's actually our first time
working together.

1304
00:39:33,872 --> 00:39:35,872
But it's actually our first time
working together.
I was really deliberate

1305
00:39:35,874 --> 00:39:36,906
working together.
I was really deliberate
about asking her

1306
00:39:36,908 --> 00:39:38,375
I was really deliberate
about asking her
to wear her hair curly

1307
00:39:38,377 --> 00:39:39,676
about asking her
to wear her hair curly
because I feel like we need

1308
00:39:39,678 --> 00:39:41,044
to wear her hair curly
because I feel like we need
that representation.

1309
00:39:41,046 --> 00:39:42,078
Because I feel like we need
that representation.
Lyndie -- she's wearing

1310
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,947
that representation.
Lyndie -- she's wearing
beautiful braids, you know?

1311
00:39:43,949 --> 00:39:45,215
Lyndie -- she's wearing
beautiful braids, you know?
And then the third young lady,

1312
00:39:45,217 --> 00:39:46,816
beautiful braids, you know?
And then the third young lady,
krystal, she has kind of,

1313
00:39:46,818 --> 00:39:47,984
and then the third young lady,
krystal, she has kind of,
you know, straighter hair

1314
00:39:47,986 --> 00:39:49,185
krystal, she has kind of,
you know, straighter hair
but makes a transition

1315
00:39:49,187 --> 00:39:50,186
you know, straighter hair
but makes a transition
during the movie.

1316
00:39:50,188 --> 00:39:51,187
But makes a transition
during the movie.
It was important for us

1317
00:39:51,189 --> 00:39:53,123
during the movie.
It was important for us
to have brown, for us to have,

1318
00:39:53,125 --> 00:39:54,124
it was important for us
to have brown, for us to have,
you know, caramel,

1319
00:39:54,126 --> 00:39:56,092
to have brown, for us to have,
you know, caramel,
to have everything in between

1320
00:39:56,094 --> 00:39:57,327
you know, caramel,
to have everything in between
and also really

1321
00:39:57,329 --> 00:39:58,528
to have everything in between
and also really
importing some of the things

1322
00:39:58,530 --> 00:39:59,896
and also really
importing some of the things
that are traditionally

1323
00:39:59,898 --> 00:40:01,664
importing some of the things
that are traditionally
and culturally a part of us.

1324
00:40:01,666 --> 00:40:02,866
That are traditionally
and culturally a part of us.
So the little things

1325
00:40:02,868 --> 00:40:04,000
and culturally a part of us.
So the little things
that you will see in terms

1326
00:40:04,002 --> 00:40:05,001
so the little things
that you will see in terms
of incorporating

1327
00:40:05,003 --> 00:40:07,070
that you will see in terms
of incorporating
the gullah geechee community of

1328
00:40:07,072 --> 00:40:10,607
of incorporating
the gullah geechee community of
when you are having workshops

1329
00:40:10,609 --> 00:40:12,041
the gullah geechee community of
when you are having workshops
and the circle

1330
00:40:12,043 --> 00:40:13,543
when you are having workshops
and the circle
and the pouring of libations

1331
00:40:13,545 --> 00:40:15,278
and the circle
and the pouring of libations
and, you know, the using

1332
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,646
and the pouring of libations
and, you know, the using
of sage to clear energy,

1333
00:40:16,648 --> 00:40:18,014
and, you know, the using
of sage to clear energy,
these things that are inherently

1334
00:40:18,016 --> 00:40:19,582
of sage to clear energy,
these things that are inherently
a part of our community

1335
00:40:19,584 --> 00:40:21,284
these things that are inherently
a part of our community
I fought to ensure

1336
00:40:21,286 --> 00:40:22,619
a part of our community
I fought to ensure
were incorporated,

1337
00:40:22,621 --> 00:40:23,987
I fought to ensure
were incorporated,
because what's important to me

1338
00:40:23,989 --> 00:40:26,956
were incorporated,
because what's important to me
is, you can't do a movie

1339
00:40:26,958 --> 00:40:28,625
because what's important to me
is, you can't do a movie
about black women

1340
00:40:28,627 --> 00:40:30,093
is, you can't do a movie
about black women
where they are simply

1341
00:40:30,095 --> 00:40:32,228
about black women
where they are simply
placeholders in a white script.

1342
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:33,863
Where they are simply
placeholders in a white script.
If you're going to do it,

1343
00:40:33,865 --> 00:40:35,098
placeholders in a white script.
If you're going to do it,
you have to do it and you

1344
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:37,834
if you're going to do it,
you have to do it and you
have to completely embrace

1345
00:40:37,836 --> 00:40:40,437
you have to do it and you
have to completely embrace
and highlight the entirety

1346
00:40:40,439 --> 00:40:41,504
have to completely embrace
and highlight the entirety
and the authenticity

1347
00:40:41,506 --> 00:40:42,939
and highlight the entirety
and the authenticity
of our culture.

1348
00:40:42,941 --> 00:40:46,743
And the authenticity
of our culture.
And that was paramount for me.

1349
00:40:46,745 --> 00:40:48,511
Of our culture.
And that was paramount for me.
And cut.

1350
00:40:48,513 --> 00:40:50,079
And that was paramount for me.
And cut.
>> all right, we cut. All right,

1351
00:40:50,081 --> 00:40:51,448
and cut.
>> all right, we cut. All right,
you feel like you got it, guys?

1352
00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:52,482
>> all right, we cut. All right,
you feel like you got it, guys?
>> pulliam: I do have something

1353
00:40:52,484 --> 00:40:53,483
you feel like you got it, guys?
>> pulliam: I do have something
that I would tell anyone's

1354
00:40:53,485 --> 00:40:54,484
>> pulliam: I do have something
that I would tell anyone's
younger self, is that, "you're

1355
00:40:54,486 --> 00:40:55,585
that I would tell anyone's
younger self, is that, "you're
enough.

1356
00:40:55,587 --> 00:40:57,821
Younger self, is that, "you're
enough.
You're enough exactly

1357
00:40:57,823 --> 00:40:59,823
enough.
You're enough exactly
where you are in this moment.

1358
00:40:59,825 --> 00:41:01,491
You're enough exactly
where you are in this moment.
You're deserving of love,

1359
00:41:01,493 --> 00:41:01,958
where you are in this moment.
You're deserving of love,
and you're enough."

1360
00:41:03,093 --> 00:41:03,960
something else that I tell

1361
00:41:04,094 --> 00:41:05,895
my girls at kamp kizzy is,

1362
00:41:06,030 --> 00:41:07,564
you know, "you were born

1363
00:41:07,698 --> 00:41:09,399
a priceless original.

1364
00:41:09,533 --> 00:41:11,000
So why are you running around

1365
00:41:11,135 --> 00:41:13,470
trying to be a worthless copy?"

1366
00:41:13,604 --> 00:41:14,771
everyone has value,

1367
00:41:14,905 --> 00:41:16,639
and our value is very different,

1368
00:41:16,774 --> 00:41:17,774
but it doesn't mean

1369
00:41:17,908 --> 00:41:19,175
that one person is worth

1370
00:41:19,310 --> 00:41:20,710
more than the next.

1371
00:41:20,845 --> 00:41:23,813
So embrace your value.

1372
00:41:23,948 --> 00:41:27,450
Embrace all of the quirks and

1373
00:41:27,585 --> 00:41:30,453
nuances and personality traits

1374
00:41:30,588 --> 00:41:33,323
that make you authentically you

1375
00:41:33,457 --> 00:41:36,092
because it's too hard

1376
00:41:36,227 --> 00:41:37,927
trying to be something different

1377
00:41:38,062 --> 00:41:38,294
than you are.

1378
00:41:44,268 --> 00:41:44,400
♪