1 00:00:33,402 --> 00:00:37,884 [Grunting] 2 00:00:43,325 --> 00:00:45,544 [Panting] 3 00:00:57,948 --> 00:01:00,342 [Grunting] 4 00:01:02,779 --> 00:01:05,738 Before, when I first started, I thought I was invincible 5 00:01:05,782 --> 00:01:08,350 and untouchable, and I could never get hurt. 6 00:01:08,393 --> 00:01:10,439 [Grunting] 7 00:01:10,482 --> 00:01:14,007 And I knew this was probably like one of the hardest things 8 00:01:14,051 --> 00:01:15,531 my family had to go through. 9 00:01:17,185 --> 00:01:19,448 But I'll be damned if they have to bury me. 10 00:01:21,406 --> 00:01:23,278 Domestic violence and pro wrestling 11 00:01:23,321 --> 00:01:26,019 are not one and the same. 12 00:01:26,063 --> 00:01:30,154 You know, my situation, I didn't talk about it for 20 years. 13 00:01:30,198 --> 00:01:31,764 Nobody knew. 14 00:01:31,808 --> 00:01:33,201 I didn't tell anyone. 15 00:01:33,244 --> 00:01:35,246 My husband was the only person that knew. 16 00:01:51,349 --> 00:01:53,221 [Grunting] 17 00:02:19,072 --> 00:02:29,082 ♪ 18 00:02:44,663 --> 00:02:48,580 [Cheering] 19 00:02:50,495 --> 00:02:53,455 DAMIAN: Women's wrestling is experiencing a revolution, 20 00:02:53,498 --> 00:02:55,674 and independent promotions everywhere are rising to the 21 00:02:55,718 --> 00:02:59,287 occasion by showcasing female talent from around the world. 22 00:02:59,330 --> 00:03:01,202 We're gonna visit two very different places 23 00:03:01,245 --> 00:03:03,639 to show how women are quickly evolving their sport 24 00:03:03,682 --> 00:03:05,728 beyond stereotypes and misogyny. 25 00:03:05,771 --> 00:03:08,383 The rise of the Fighting Cholitas in Bolivia marks 26 00:03:08,426 --> 00:03:11,560 a distinct and important point in their cultural resurgence. 27 00:03:11,603 --> 00:03:14,867 And in America, Shimmer Women Athletes has created a league 28 00:03:14,911 --> 00:03:17,218 that focuses on the best technical wrestling 29 00:03:17,261 --> 00:03:18,915 from across the globe. 30 00:03:18,958 --> 00:03:21,613 For the last 13 years, they've fought to place female athletes 31 00:03:21,657 --> 00:03:24,268 like Mia Yim at the forefront of the independent scene. 32 00:03:24,312 --> 00:03:26,923 In both countries, many of the women involved have overcome 33 00:03:26,966 --> 00:03:29,752 violence in their own lives to fight to create an atmosphere 34 00:03:29,795 --> 00:03:31,928 that promotes female empowerment. 35 00:03:31,971 --> 00:03:34,844 Every ring and stage, women wrestlers are fighting hard, 36 00:03:34,887 --> 00:03:37,673 developing and perfecting their craft and telling stories 37 00:03:37,716 --> 00:03:40,023 that transcend mere match. 38 00:03:40,066 --> 00:03:41,459 And the fans are noticing. 39 00:03:41,503 --> 00:03:43,331 [Cheering] 40 00:03:45,855 --> 00:03:47,335 So why don't we do that for the shine, 41 00:03:47,378 --> 00:03:48,553 where like you give me a head scissors, 42 00:03:48,597 --> 00:03:49,946 I'll sell into the corner. 43 00:03:49,989 --> 00:03:51,513 Charge after me, I'll move, I'll charge after you. 44 00:03:51,556 --> 00:03:53,036 You could do the thing. 45 00:03:53,079 --> 00:03:54,429 If you wanna do a victory earlier so we don't have to 46 00:03:54,472 --> 00:03:56,996 blow it up, we could do that victory, maybe roll up, 47 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,261 one, two, spear, boom, one, two, aah. 48 00:04:00,304 --> 00:04:02,350 That probably wasn't English at all to you, 49 00:04:02,393 --> 00:04:03,829 but that totally made sense to us. 50 00:04:03,873 --> 00:04:05,048 You know what, I don't need to know. 51 00:04:05,091 --> 00:04:06,789 All I need to know is that you get it, 52 00:04:06,832 --> 00:04:08,312 and then it's gonna be awesome when I get to see it. 53 00:04:08,356 --> 00:04:09,661 [Laughing] 54 00:04:09,705 --> 00:04:10,836 That's all I need to know about that exchange. 55 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,012 [Yelling] 56 00:04:13,056 --> 00:04:15,580 [Cheering] 57 00:04:15,624 --> 00:04:17,756 Mia Yim is one of the most accomplished women 58 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,541 on the indie circuit. 59 00:04:19,584 --> 00:04:21,934 She trained in Japan, was on television with both 60 00:04:21,978 --> 00:04:24,633 Total Nonstop Action Wrestling and Ring of Honor, 61 00:04:24,676 --> 00:04:26,939 and has worked for many of the top indies, 62 00:04:26,983 --> 00:04:29,246 including CZW, Shine, and Shimmer. 63 00:04:30,552 --> 00:04:33,946 Wrestling is a form of dance. 64 00:04:33,990 --> 00:04:39,387 So one person will do, say, a move to another person, 65 00:04:39,430 --> 00:04:41,432 but they're both taking care of each other. 66 00:04:41,476 --> 00:04:44,566 [Cheering] 67 00:04:44,609 --> 00:04:50,441 Although it is violent, in wrestling everything is consent, 68 00:04:50,485 --> 00:04:52,138 and there's proper training behind it. 69 00:04:52,182 --> 00:04:53,836 So if I'm in a ring with somebody, 70 00:04:53,879 --> 00:04:56,491 I'll put them in the headlock, but I'm not 71 00:04:56,534 --> 00:04:58,144 purposefully hurting them. 72 00:04:58,188 --> 00:05:00,756 [Yelling] 73 00:05:00,799 --> 00:05:09,112 ♪ 74 00:05:09,155 --> 00:05:11,941 One, two, three! 75 00:05:11,984 --> 00:05:14,117 [Cheering] 76 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,597 There's a lot of people that think oh, 77 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,077 well she got muscle, she wrestles guys, 78 00:05:18,121 --> 00:05:19,818 she can handle her own. 79 00:05:19,862 --> 00:05:23,126 But just because I'm a wrestler, 80 00:05:23,169 --> 00:05:25,433 don't mean it's okay for me to get beat up at home. 81 00:05:25,476 --> 00:05:29,350 ♪ 82 00:05:29,393 --> 00:05:31,961 At a time in her career when everything was going right 83 00:05:32,004 --> 00:05:34,833 and Mia was solidifying her place on the big stage, 84 00:05:34,877 --> 00:05:37,183 it was a very different story at home. 85 00:05:37,227 --> 00:05:39,272 Mia began experiencing domestic abuse at 86 00:05:39,316 --> 00:05:42,580 the hands of her boyfriend, also a working wrestler. 87 00:05:42,624 --> 00:05:46,845 I was completely blinded by it, and I didn't realize the flags, 88 00:05:46,889 --> 00:05:49,282 but looking back on it, it was all there. 89 00:05:49,326 --> 00:05:52,373 The jealousy, the control. 90 00:05:52,416 --> 00:05:55,637 He was overprotective, which I thought at that time 91 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,508 was flattering because oh, he cares so much. 92 00:05:57,552 --> 00:05:59,380 He's scared somebody's gonna take me away. 93 00:05:59,423 --> 00:06:02,252 But then it became restricting. 94 00:06:03,601 --> 00:06:08,040 We had an argument, and I mentioned my ex, 95 00:06:08,084 --> 00:06:11,957 which he always had a problem with as far as I couldn't be on 96 00:06:12,001 --> 00:06:14,438 the same show as him, we couldn't be friends. 97 00:06:14,482 --> 00:06:18,486 And then during the argument, he put me in a headlock. 98 00:06:21,402 --> 00:06:23,795 Me and my ex, we had matches together, 99 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,711 so to me it was... 100 00:06:26,755 --> 00:06:30,454 okay, I've been in this move my whole wrestling career. 101 00:06:30,498 --> 00:06:32,456 The only difference is why is this hurting 102 00:06:32,500 --> 00:06:33,892 and why can't I breathe? 103 00:06:35,503 --> 00:06:39,245 And that's just because I've never been in a proper headlock. 104 00:06:41,422 --> 00:06:44,860 And then the next day, it was just like nothing ever happened. 105 00:06:46,601 --> 00:06:50,082 Then it would become more and more regular, 106 00:06:50,126 --> 00:06:54,086 where every argument, he would choke me just because, 107 00:06:54,130 --> 00:06:55,566 you know, I'm not... 108 00:06:55,610 --> 00:06:57,394 he doesn't want me walking around with a black eye. 109 00:06:57,438 --> 00:07:02,268 There's no marks on me, so he would choke me 110 00:07:02,312 --> 00:07:04,488 whether it's in the headlock again 111 00:07:04,532 --> 00:07:07,622 or with his bare hands, with a towel. 112 00:07:09,928 --> 00:07:12,888 It was a million thoughts going on at once. 113 00:07:12,931 --> 00:07:15,107 It was confusion. 114 00:07:16,892 --> 00:07:19,198 The guy that tells me he loves me every day and he wants to 115 00:07:19,242 --> 00:07:21,287 marry me, why is he pitting me through this pain? 116 00:07:23,420 --> 00:07:26,945 Why does he keep hurting me and telling me it's never gonna 117 00:07:26,989 --> 00:07:30,514 happen again, but then two weeks later it happens again? 118 00:07:32,734 --> 00:07:34,300 What did I do? 119 00:07:34,344 --> 00:07:35,432 What am I doing wrong? 120 00:07:35,476 --> 00:07:38,217 [Thudding] 121 00:07:38,261 --> 00:07:41,090 It's a lot easier said than done to just... 122 00:07:41,133 --> 00:07:43,962 "Why didn't you leave?" or, "Why did you stay?" 123 00:07:44,006 --> 00:07:45,268 "Why didn't you fight back?" 124 00:07:45,311 --> 00:07:47,923 Like of course I fought back, but he's a man. 125 00:07:47,966 --> 00:07:50,403 Like I can't-- I can't knock him out with one punch. 126 00:07:50,447 --> 00:07:54,538 Like he can easily just overpower me. 127 00:07:54,582 --> 00:07:57,541 [Thudding] 128 00:08:00,239 --> 00:08:03,155 I decided to come public with it when, 129 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:06,855 after talking to several of my other female wrestling friends, 130 00:08:06,898 --> 00:08:10,554 I was... pretty much just needed a shoulder to cry on, 131 00:08:10,598 --> 00:08:12,034 so I talked to them. 132 00:08:12,077 --> 00:08:15,559 And a lot of them said, "This is what you need to do. 133 00:08:15,603 --> 00:08:16,952 This is what happened with me, 134 00:08:16,995 --> 00:08:18,344 and this is how I got out of it." 135 00:08:18,388 --> 00:08:21,304 And it was like... wait a minute. 136 00:08:21,347 --> 00:08:24,220 So we have been sharing the same locker room for X amount of 137 00:08:24,263 --> 00:08:28,180 years, you went through the same challenges I went through 138 00:08:28,224 --> 00:08:29,921 as a female wrestler, and you're telling me 139 00:08:29,965 --> 00:08:32,184 that you've been through this as well? 140 00:08:32,228 --> 00:08:35,274 And it wasn't just one other woman, 141 00:08:35,318 --> 00:08:39,104 it was multiple wrestling women that has told me. 142 00:08:39,148 --> 00:08:42,238 And it was like this has got to stop. 143 00:08:42,281 --> 00:08:45,371 Like this is exactly why domestic violence is happening, 144 00:08:45,415 --> 00:08:46,547 because nobody's talking about it. 145 00:08:48,374 --> 00:08:50,202 I couldn't-- I couldn't stay quiet. 146 00:08:51,247 --> 00:08:56,034 ♪ 147 00:09:08,786 --> 00:09:10,440 - That's Maria's belt? - Si, si. 148 00:09:10,483 --> 00:09:12,181 I guess like any proud parent 149 00:09:12,224 --> 00:09:16,054 displaying their children's trophies, a proud luchadore 150 00:09:16,098 --> 00:09:18,753 with display their Fighting Cholita's belt. 151 00:09:47,738 --> 00:09:50,828 How did it make you feel the first time you saw your... 152 00:09:50,872 --> 00:09:52,961 your babies, your children in the ring? 153 00:10:22,294 --> 00:10:23,687 [Laughing] 154 00:10:23,731 --> 00:10:27,169 El Alto, Bolivia sits 13,000 feet above sea level, 155 00:10:27,212 --> 00:10:29,562 overlooking the capital city of La Paz. 156 00:10:29,606 --> 00:10:31,695 It's home to over a million residents, 157 00:10:31,739 --> 00:10:34,916 most of whom are of the Indigenous Aymara or Quechua. 158 00:10:34,959 --> 00:10:37,353 For decades, Bolivia has had a style of wrestling 159 00:10:37,396 --> 00:10:39,921 highly derivative of Mexican Lucha Libre, 160 00:10:39,964 --> 00:10:42,314 but around 15 years ago in a rapidly changing 161 00:10:42,358 --> 00:10:46,231 political climate, the Fighting Cholitas came into being. 162 00:10:46,275 --> 00:10:49,757 I'm meeting with my local guide and Bolivian historian Valeria 163 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,455 to show me around and to find out who these women are, 164 00:10:52,498 --> 00:10:54,675 and how they came to be wrestlers. 165 00:10:55,458 --> 00:10:58,896 Most of the people in Bolivia, it's a mix between Indigenous 166 00:10:58,940 --> 00:11:01,594 and all our roots from Spanish, 167 00:11:01,638 --> 00:11:06,948 but we have like 75% of our population right now Indigenous. 168 00:11:08,689 --> 00:11:12,083 But all of the Cholitas and all of the Indigenous people 169 00:11:12,127 --> 00:11:16,305 were not identifying themselves as Bolivians, 170 00:11:16,348 --> 00:11:23,051 because even just 15 years ago, Cholitas would not be able to go 171 00:11:23,094 --> 00:11:25,618 on an airplane dressed as Cholitas. 172 00:11:25,662 --> 00:11:29,274 They would be asked to dress differently 173 00:11:29,318 --> 00:11:32,147 in order to board a flight. 174 00:11:32,190 --> 00:11:35,541 ♪ 175 00:11:35,585 --> 00:11:37,630 Where is this discrimination coming from? 176 00:12:34,339 --> 00:12:45,350 ♪ 177 00:12:45,394 --> 00:12:49,224 [Whirring] 178 00:13:21,952 --> 00:13:24,041 [Laughing] 179 00:13:24,085 --> 00:13:25,782 What goes inside. 180 00:13:25,826 --> 00:13:27,262 Oh, like an underskirt? 181 00:13:27,305 --> 00:13:28,480 Ohhh. 182 00:13:41,493 --> 00:13:44,801 At the time that she's wrestling is what you'll see the most. 183 00:13:44,845 --> 00:13:46,411 That's true, you want it to look beautiful. 184 00:13:46,455 --> 00:13:48,457 ♪ 185 00:13:56,291 --> 00:13:57,466 Ah! 186 00:14:00,469 --> 00:14:02,471 What were people's like to seeing you? 187 00:14:02,514 --> 00:14:04,516 'Cause you're the first women luchadores. 188 00:14:23,405 --> 00:14:27,061 It's amazing looking at the rise of the Fighting Cholitas 189 00:14:27,104 --> 00:14:30,107 and Bolivia as a country, and just how much it's changed 190 00:14:30,151 --> 00:14:31,761 during that period. 191 00:14:31,804 --> 00:14:34,590 Because when you started, it was a really tense time politically. 192 00:14:34,633 --> 00:14:36,070 It was a civil war. 193 00:14:51,824 --> 00:14:54,566 DAMIAN: The Bolivian Gas War took place in 2003 194 00:14:54,610 --> 00:14:56,873 with the government's plan to sell off the country's 195 00:14:56,917 --> 00:14:59,180 newly discovered gas reserves. 196 00:14:59,223 --> 00:15:01,704 Fuelled by a deep history of colonial exploitation 197 00:15:01,747 --> 00:15:04,968 of natural resources such as silver and gold, along with 198 00:15:05,012 --> 00:15:07,623 a weakened economy and impoverished living conditions, 199 00:15:07,666 --> 00:15:10,321 Bolivians took to the streets to strike in protest... 200 00:15:10,365 --> 00:15:11,932 [Gunshots] 201 00:15:11,975 --> 00:15:13,716 ...but were met with a violent response. 202 00:15:13,759 --> 00:15:15,065 [Gunshots] 203 00:15:15,109 --> 00:15:17,372 60 people, mostly from El Alto, were killed, 204 00:15:17,415 --> 00:15:18,982 and many more were wounded. 205 00:15:57,107 --> 00:15:59,022 [Shouting] 206 00:16:13,384 --> 00:16:15,169 [Shouting] 207 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,643 [Yelling] 208 00:16:54,686 --> 00:16:56,123 [Cheering] 209 00:17:22,062 --> 00:17:24,412 Domestic abuse is prevalent in Bolivia, 210 00:17:24,455 --> 00:17:27,893 with 53% of Bolivian women having experienced physical 211 00:17:27,937 --> 00:17:30,418 or sexual violence at the hands of a partner, 212 00:17:30,461 --> 00:17:32,811 one of the highest rates of any country in South America. 213 00:17:50,177 --> 00:17:53,136 Helen, how did you first find out about this space? 214 00:17:53,180 --> 00:17:54,877 [Children laughing] 215 00:21:15,033 --> 00:21:16,948 One, two. Good, find the two. 216 00:21:16,992 --> 00:21:18,210 Two three two. 217 00:21:18,254 --> 00:21:20,300 Good, good work, shake it out. 218 00:21:20,343 --> 00:21:22,127 You know, when we talk about domestic violence, 219 00:21:22,171 --> 00:21:24,478 there's always this idea of the perfect victim. 220 00:21:24,521 --> 00:21:28,090 Somebody who is a model citizen, someone who doesn't curse, 221 00:21:28,133 --> 00:21:30,527 someone who doesn't initiate violence, 222 00:21:30,571 --> 00:21:32,094 someone who doesn't partake in violence, right? 223 00:21:32,137 --> 00:21:33,878 Wrestling's a violent sport. 224 00:21:33,922 --> 00:21:36,403 When you think of the perfect victims, 225 00:21:36,446 --> 00:21:39,449 those are the kind of labels we put on people that 226 00:21:39,493 --> 00:21:41,233 if they can subscribe to all of those things, 227 00:21:41,277 --> 00:21:42,844 right, if they can just be perfect, 228 00:21:42,887 --> 00:21:44,802 then they're deserving of support. 229 00:21:44,846 --> 00:21:47,327 And so you look at someone like Mia, 230 00:21:47,370 --> 00:21:49,154 who's a professional wrestler, 231 00:21:49,198 --> 00:21:51,592 and the element of victim blaming comes in, right? 232 00:21:53,115 --> 00:21:54,856 "She could've fought back," or, "Maybe if she didn't date 233 00:21:54,899 --> 00:21:58,642 a wrestler, she wouldn't find herself in this situation." 234 00:21:58,686 --> 00:22:00,775 [Smacking] 235 00:22:00,818 --> 00:22:02,211 So what about connecting with her though? 236 00:22:02,254 --> 00:22:04,126 You kind of, I guess at some point though, 237 00:22:04,169 --> 00:22:05,388 crossed that line, right? 238 00:22:05,432 --> 00:22:07,782 - From fan to friend. - To friend. 239 00:22:07,825 --> 00:22:10,175 I mean, I think the world of Mia, she's great. 240 00:22:10,219 --> 00:22:12,482 You know, I think that's the power of social media. 241 00:22:13,918 --> 00:22:17,269 I'm someone who has had friends and family who've been impacted 242 00:22:17,313 --> 00:22:19,097 by domestic violence. 243 00:22:19,141 --> 00:22:22,057 But then I saw that she was retweeting a bunch of different 244 00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:24,015 domestic violence campaigns. 245 00:22:25,756 --> 00:22:29,934 The Put The Nail In It campaign is a campaign that aims to end 246 00:22:29,978 --> 00:22:32,241 the silence around domestic violence. 247 00:22:32,284 --> 00:22:34,852 You know, the idea was that if you painted your left ring 248 00:22:34,896 --> 00:22:37,986 fingernail purple, hopefully somebody would spot it 249 00:22:38,029 --> 00:22:39,988 and ask you a question like, "What's that about?" 250 00:22:41,468 --> 00:22:44,079 And so being a wrestling fan, I saw Mia, 251 00:22:44,122 --> 00:22:47,256 and I saw that she had the painted nail. 252 00:22:47,299 --> 00:22:51,303 And so I said hmm, you know, let me just reach out to Mia 253 00:22:51,347 --> 00:22:54,132 and see if she'd feel comfortable speaking. 254 00:22:55,482 --> 00:22:57,179 He would cry, he would apologize, 255 00:22:57,222 --> 00:22:59,355 he was a changed man, he learned his lesson. 256 00:22:59,399 --> 00:23:03,185 A week later, we'd get into an argument, 257 00:23:03,228 --> 00:23:06,667 he just scoops me up, tossed me in the closet. 258 00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:08,320 And that was my first time I fought back, 259 00:23:08,364 --> 00:23:11,411 'cause I broke down the door, and then I came out swinging 260 00:23:11,454 --> 00:23:13,804 'cause he just stood there like he couldn't believe 261 00:23:13,848 --> 00:23:15,415 I got through the door. 262 00:23:15,458 --> 00:23:17,199 So... 263 00:23:18,722 --> 00:23:20,028 It's okay. 264 00:23:21,682 --> 00:23:25,337 I thought about my family, and how... 265 00:23:25,381 --> 00:23:29,777 I will be damned if my parents have to bury me. 266 00:23:30,908 --> 00:23:34,521 So I broke down the closet, first time I fought back. 267 00:23:34,564 --> 00:23:36,044 Um... 268 00:23:38,568 --> 00:23:43,965 And of course, he just easily just... scooped me up, 269 00:23:44,008 --> 00:23:46,533 put me down, he mounted me and started choking me. 270 00:23:46,576 --> 00:23:49,361 ♪ 271 00:23:49,405 --> 00:23:53,801 I want to be an advocate, I want to help others 272 00:23:53,844 --> 00:23:55,324 that's been in my situation. 273 00:23:55,367 --> 00:23:56,456 I just don't know how. 274 00:23:58,066 --> 00:24:00,372 And so for Mia, I wanted to let her know that I was interested 275 00:24:00,416 --> 00:24:02,636 in exploring the story with her, and getting it out there, 276 00:24:02,679 --> 00:24:05,290 and that she also had final approval on the piece that 277 00:24:05,334 --> 00:24:07,205 we did submit for The Huffington Post. 278 00:24:08,729 --> 00:24:10,339 And I was a little scared. 279 00:24:10,382 --> 00:24:15,692 Would she be met with that same hyper-masculinity victim blaming 280 00:24:15,736 --> 00:24:18,695 that's so common when women come forward? 281 00:24:18,739 --> 00:24:20,828 But I was surprised. 282 00:24:20,871 --> 00:24:27,312 ♪ 283 00:24:27,356 --> 00:24:28,575 DAMIAN: Annabelle is the youngest of 284 00:24:28,618 --> 00:24:30,577 the Fighting Cholitas in El Alto. 285 00:24:30,620 --> 00:24:32,709 Still in high school, she represents 286 00:24:32,753 --> 00:24:34,406 a new generation of wrestlers. 287 00:24:57,299 --> 00:24:59,649 [Cheering] 288 00:25:01,912 --> 00:25:04,349 [Thudding] 289 00:25:04,393 --> 00:25:07,788 [Grunting] 290 00:25:13,663 --> 00:25:15,447 [Grunting] 291 00:25:20,409 --> 00:25:21,671 Oh! 292 00:25:35,772 --> 00:25:41,865 ♪ 293 00:26:30,305 --> 00:26:34,657 It seems to me the part that's missing is educating men, 294 00:26:34,701 --> 00:26:37,051 'cause the men are the perpetrators of this violence. 295 00:26:37,094 --> 00:26:39,096 What kind of changes are happening there? 296 00:26:39,140 --> 00:26:42,622 Is there any efforts being made to kinda adjust society? 297 00:27:30,626 --> 00:27:33,020 I'm to understand that you've gone out and actually formed 298 00:27:33,063 --> 00:27:35,326 your own federation, a women's federation now, right? 299 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,717 [Shouting] 300 00:28:50,837 --> 00:28:53,230 The Fighting Cholita's league is still in its infancy, 301 00:28:53,274 --> 00:28:55,276 and has to rely on male promoters for access 302 00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:57,278 to both a ring and a venue. 303 00:28:57,321 --> 00:28:59,106 If they're able to become fully independent, 304 00:28:59,149 --> 00:29:00,890 it will mark an important point in history 305 00:29:00,934 --> 00:29:02,936 for women's wrestling. 306 00:29:02,979 --> 00:29:05,460 Outside of Japan and a few short-lived promotions in 307 00:29:05,503 --> 00:29:08,811 the UK, the Cholitas would be the first promotion to be fully 308 00:29:08,855 --> 00:29:12,075 owned and controlled by the female wrestlers themselves. 309 00:29:15,731 --> 00:29:26,611 ♪ 310 00:29:26,655 --> 00:29:28,178 Pen! 311 00:29:28,222 --> 00:29:29,919 Thanks for that, Howard. 312 00:29:29,963 --> 00:29:35,707 ♪ 313 00:29:35,751 --> 00:29:39,711 [Applause] 314 00:29:39,755 --> 00:29:45,805 Shimmer is the WrestleMania of women's independent wrestling. 315 00:29:46,936 --> 00:29:51,201 It is women from all over the world that are known for 316 00:29:51,245 --> 00:29:54,552 their work, rather than just being sexy or whatnot. 317 00:29:55,727 --> 00:30:00,558 This is pro wrestling with female athletes. 318 00:30:00,602 --> 00:30:02,822 We're giving them more of an opportunity. 319 00:30:02,865 --> 00:30:05,737 We're allowing them to showcase their athleticism. 320 00:30:05,781 --> 00:30:09,350 We're not here for a bunch of goofy stories. 321 00:30:09,393 --> 00:30:12,048 We're not here for showing you the goods. 322 00:30:12,092 --> 00:30:13,528 We're not gonna give that to you. 323 00:30:13,571 --> 00:30:14,921 [Cheering] 324 00:30:14,964 --> 00:30:17,227 We're not the side dish, we're the main dish. 325 00:30:17,271 --> 00:30:21,014 We are the meat and potatoes of women's wrestling. 326 00:30:21,057 --> 00:30:23,538 [Cheering] 327 00:30:23,581 --> 00:30:25,845 You're gonna see brawling, you're gonna see technical 328 00:30:25,888 --> 00:30:28,195 wrestling, you're gonna see high flying, and you're gonna 329 00:30:28,238 --> 00:30:32,025 see women in a capacity you might not normally see. 330 00:30:32,068 --> 00:30:41,077 [Cheering] 331 00:30:41,121 --> 00:30:46,909 CROWD: Mia! Mia! Mia! Mia! Mia! Mia! Mia! Mia! 332 00:30:46,953 --> 00:30:50,565 [Yelling] 333 00:30:50,608 --> 00:30:52,393 [Crowd gasping] 334 00:30:54,221 --> 00:30:57,615 DAMIAN: Shimmer is the only league of its kind in America. 335 00:30:57,659 --> 00:31:00,270 While there are other women-centric promotions, 336 00:31:00,314 --> 00:31:01,924 they don't have the same mandate 337 00:31:01,968 --> 00:31:04,318 to specifically highlight female athleticism. 338 00:31:06,581 --> 00:31:08,409 Within the American wrestling system, there's been 339 00:31:08,452 --> 00:31:11,716 a lot of talk recently about a women's revolution. 340 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,458 The buzz has grown so popular that even the large corporate 341 00:31:14,502 --> 00:31:16,896 wrestling companies have had to take notice and change 342 00:31:16,939 --> 00:31:18,985 the presentation of women's wrestling. 343 00:31:21,596 --> 00:31:25,208 A great deal of responsibility for this changing tide is owed 344 00:31:25,252 --> 00:31:28,864 to the organizers of Shimmer, and the women they feature. 345 00:31:28,908 --> 00:31:31,823 Without them, the world of pro wrestling would still be 346 00:31:31,867 --> 00:31:33,521 living in the past. 347 00:31:33,564 --> 00:31:38,178 ♪ 348 00:31:38,221 --> 00:31:40,658 I think out of all the wrestling shows I've been to lately - 349 00:31:40,702 --> 00:31:42,965 and I've been to a lot lately - this is one of the most 350 00:31:43,009 --> 00:31:46,577 respectful audiences, certainly in America or Canada, 351 00:31:46,621 --> 00:31:48,188 that I've ever seen. 352 00:31:48,231 --> 00:31:50,581 Is that something that was like that from the very beginning, 353 00:31:50,625 --> 00:31:52,540 or is that something you've had to cultivate here? 354 00:31:52,583 --> 00:31:56,022 Back when we first started this in 2005, 355 00:31:56,065 --> 00:31:59,155 women were facing the problem, particularly on the indies. 356 00:31:59,199 --> 00:32:02,680 When we would hit the ring at any kind of "regular" show 357 00:32:02,724 --> 00:32:04,813 I would say, like a mostly male show, 358 00:32:04,856 --> 00:32:08,164 fans would openly get up and go to the bar, 359 00:32:08,208 --> 00:32:10,166 get something to drink, get a snack. 360 00:32:10,210 --> 00:32:13,213 I've done shows where the fans pick their chairs up, 361 00:32:13,256 --> 00:32:16,129 turned them around, and sat like this with their backs to us 362 00:32:16,172 --> 00:32:19,697 to make us know that we weren't welcome, that we were 363 00:32:19,741 --> 00:32:23,527 taking away from male matches that they wanted to watch. 364 00:32:23,571 --> 00:32:26,008 [Shouting] 365 00:32:26,052 --> 00:32:27,792 Where do you think that animosity 366 00:32:27,836 --> 00:32:30,012 towards women's wrestling comes from? 367 00:32:30,056 --> 00:32:31,840 It's just straight up misogyny. 368 00:32:31,883 --> 00:32:35,409 And it goes back to the old school mentality of 369 00:32:35,452 --> 00:32:37,150 men are the leaders. 370 00:32:37,193 --> 00:32:38,847 Men do the heavy lifting. 371 00:32:38,890 --> 00:32:41,023 Women just stay in the background and do this. 372 00:32:41,067 --> 00:32:43,504 And I think deep down, it's engrained in 373 00:32:43,547 --> 00:32:47,116 a lot of fans' heads that this isn't what women do. 374 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,771 And a lot of fans just didn't like it. 375 00:32:49,814 --> 00:32:52,034 They felt we were encroaching on 376 00:32:52,078 --> 00:32:54,819 the territory of something they loved. 377 00:32:54,863 --> 00:32:57,779 We've had women's wrestling over the years, 378 00:32:57,822 --> 00:33:00,825 and then we had GLOW which openly acknowledged 379 00:33:00,869 --> 00:33:04,177 most of those people were actresses playing a part. 380 00:33:04,220 --> 00:33:08,050 So they're used to seeing these amazing athletics from the men, 381 00:33:08,094 --> 00:33:10,400 and then the women are trying to catch up 382 00:33:10,444 --> 00:33:11,836 and given that opportunity. 383 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,317 And the women who could wrestle were held back 384 00:33:14,361 --> 00:33:15,536 for not being pretty enough. 385 00:33:15,579 --> 00:33:18,669 ♪ 386 00:33:18,713 --> 00:33:21,716 Back then, women's wrestling in my experience, 387 00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:24,588 from what I've been through, it was just sexualized. 388 00:33:24,632 --> 00:33:27,417 Bra and panty matches, mud matches, specialty matches, 389 00:33:27,461 --> 00:33:31,073 and I'm sure it was a lot worse before I started. 390 00:33:31,117 --> 00:33:34,076 [Cheering] 391 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,906 So when we started Shimmer and Prazak pitched the idea, 392 00:33:37,949 --> 00:33:42,867 we really wanted to find that niche and find the people who 393 00:33:42,911 --> 00:33:46,088 believed in women's wrestling, and believed in the athletes 394 00:33:46,132 --> 00:33:48,177 that we have and that we present. 395 00:33:48,221 --> 00:33:51,267 And we started getting away from the cat fights, 396 00:33:51,311 --> 00:33:53,226 and the evening gown matches. 397 00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:55,358 And no matter who told us it was wrong, 398 00:33:55,402 --> 00:33:57,621 we knew here and here it was right, 399 00:33:57,665 --> 00:33:59,188 and so we just kept going. 400 00:33:59,232 --> 00:34:00,711 We're like alright, they don't like it, 401 00:34:00,755 --> 00:34:02,539 let's move to the next person. 402 00:34:02,583 --> 00:34:04,106 CROWD: Mia! Mia! 403 00:34:04,150 --> 00:34:06,630 We weren't gonna be able to change everybody's minds, 404 00:34:06,674 --> 00:34:09,416 but if we worked really hard, we would be able to educate 405 00:34:09,459 --> 00:34:12,375 some people on what we do, and change minds that way. 406 00:34:18,555 --> 00:34:21,428 Everywhere you go that I've been so far around, 407 00:34:21,471 --> 00:34:24,083 you see signs of Evo Morales. 408 00:34:24,126 --> 00:34:25,997 Can you explain a little bit about his presidency 409 00:34:26,041 --> 00:34:27,477 and how he became elected? 410 00:34:27,521 --> 00:34:29,218 He was a natural leader. 411 00:34:29,262 --> 00:34:32,656 He was president of all of the unions in our central area 412 00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:36,095 that we call Chapare, where they produce the coca leaves. 413 00:34:36,138 --> 00:34:40,882 And then he started getting involved in politics, 414 00:34:40,925 --> 00:34:44,320 and he decided to found his own party 415 00:34:44,364 --> 00:34:47,758 that is a movement towards socialism. 416 00:34:49,064 --> 00:34:51,501 So not only was Evo a very progressive force 417 00:34:51,545 --> 00:34:53,024 when it comes to labour and things like that, 418 00:34:53,068 --> 00:34:55,157 but he was also the first Indigenous president, right? 419 00:34:55,201 --> 00:34:56,593 Yes, actually. 420 00:34:56,637 --> 00:34:59,683 How did that affect the psychology of people here? 421 00:34:59,727 --> 00:35:03,034 It created a new identity, 422 00:35:03,078 --> 00:35:08,736 because we have like 75% of our population right now Indigenous. 423 00:35:08,779 --> 00:35:14,698 So during the '70s, people who have Indigenous last names 424 00:35:14,742 --> 00:35:17,484 would not be able to go to university, 425 00:35:17,527 --> 00:35:21,575 but now they are free to do whatever they want. 426 00:35:21,618 --> 00:35:25,709 What Evo Morales has done is that he has created 427 00:35:25,753 --> 00:35:28,538 a new identity of a country. 428 00:35:28,582 --> 00:35:33,282 And part of that identity is the Cholitas as an icon of the city 429 00:35:33,326 --> 00:35:35,545 and of our country. 430 00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:40,681 ♪ 431 00:35:40,724 --> 00:35:44,250 [Thudding] 432 00:35:44,293 --> 00:35:46,861 [Yelling] 433 00:35:46,904 --> 00:35:48,689 [Grunting] 434 00:35:50,212 --> 00:35:51,561 [Laughing] 435 00:35:51,605 --> 00:35:54,825 Watching you two work together, it's amazing, 436 00:35:54,869 --> 00:35:58,002 the trust that you must have and the faith you put in each other. 437 00:35:58,046 --> 00:36:01,049 Is that something that transcends the ring? 438 00:36:01,092 --> 00:36:02,529 - Absolutely! - Yeah. 439 00:36:02,572 --> 00:36:03,791 Half of the stuff we do, 440 00:36:03,834 --> 00:36:05,445 whether we're fighting against each other 441 00:36:05,488 --> 00:36:10,363 or teaming up together, it's all just us being us. 442 00:36:10,406 --> 00:36:12,974 So we don't call any of it, we don't plan any of it. 443 00:36:13,017 --> 00:36:15,368 A majority of it is legit just us. 444 00:36:15,411 --> 00:36:16,847 It's just us being like... 445 00:36:16,891 --> 00:36:18,806 When we got close... 446 00:36:18,849 --> 00:36:20,677 I moved to Florida for my ex. 447 00:36:20,721 --> 00:36:23,550 So then we had our own clique, and that's how we got to bond 448 00:36:23,593 --> 00:36:25,160 and get to know each other. 449 00:36:25,204 --> 00:36:28,729 So not only is she my wrestling friend, 450 00:36:28,772 --> 00:36:30,165 she's my real friend. 451 00:36:31,688 --> 00:36:35,344 So when I finally left, she was there when 452 00:36:35,388 --> 00:36:38,521 all of our mutual friends thought I was exaggerating 453 00:36:38,565 --> 00:36:40,131 or lying or just making it up. 454 00:36:40,175 --> 00:36:43,309 She was there to tell me you do what you gotta do to be safe, 455 00:36:43,352 --> 00:36:44,875 and I'll be there for you. 456 00:36:44,919 --> 00:36:46,790 [Yelling] 457 00:36:46,834 --> 00:36:48,314 [Laughing] 458 00:36:48,357 --> 00:36:51,055 When Mia first was able to come forward about the abuse 459 00:36:51,099 --> 00:36:54,668 she experienced, there was people around her that went to 460 00:36:54,711 --> 00:36:58,106 the abuser and just protected him, and tried to protect him. 461 00:36:58,149 --> 00:37:02,328 Sometimes I think people protect the abuser because they can't 462 00:37:02,371 --> 00:37:06,027 fathom that the abuser would've actually done that. 463 00:37:06,070 --> 00:37:08,203 "Oh, you're just being hysterical." 464 00:37:08,247 --> 00:37:11,206 "Oh, calm down, that couldn't have really happened." 465 00:37:11,250 --> 00:37:15,471 And they almost gaslight you in a way of 466 00:37:15,515 --> 00:37:17,430 they make you second guess. 467 00:37:17,473 --> 00:37:19,432 Was it really that bad? 468 00:37:19,475 --> 00:37:21,912 And so that's extremely frustrating. 469 00:37:21,956 --> 00:37:23,479 [Shouting] 470 00:37:23,523 --> 00:37:26,874 I couldn't stay quiet and let it keep happening because 471 00:37:26,917 --> 00:37:29,355 the abusers think that oh, well they-- if they talk, 472 00:37:29,398 --> 00:37:31,313 then we're gonna beat them up some more. 473 00:37:32,706 --> 00:37:37,058 It wasn't until when I came out with my story that I realized 474 00:37:37,101 --> 00:37:39,190 how many people were supportive. 475 00:37:40,627 --> 00:37:44,674 It was just crazy that not only is it just like my friends 476 00:37:44,718 --> 00:37:47,764 at Shimmer, or my friends at Impact, 477 00:37:47,808 --> 00:37:50,550 it was everybody, like people I've never even met before. 478 00:37:52,378 --> 00:37:55,642 And it was... it was refreshing to know I'm not crazy. 479 00:37:57,383 --> 00:37:59,950 Some people wanna... wanna criticize it, 480 00:37:59,994 --> 00:38:03,432 that it was a glory grab, it was an attention grab. 481 00:38:03,476 --> 00:38:06,870 I think it was something so unselfish, 482 00:38:06,914 --> 00:38:11,875 because she put strangers ahead of herself, 483 00:38:11,919 --> 00:38:14,225 because she doesn't want anyone else to ever be 484 00:38:14,269 --> 00:38:15,966 in that situation. 485 00:38:16,010 --> 00:38:21,798 And she made us in the locker room feel safe 486 00:38:21,842 --> 00:38:24,323 to start talking about our own situations. 487 00:38:25,933 --> 00:38:29,284 My situation, I didn't talk about it for 20 years. 488 00:38:29,328 --> 00:38:31,460 I didn't tell anyone. 489 00:38:31,504 --> 00:38:34,202 My husband was the only person that knew. 490 00:38:34,245 --> 00:38:37,597 Now I feel better talking about it because 491 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,078 she put herself out there for everybody. 492 00:38:41,122 --> 00:38:44,343 Like a lot of people don't realize what she put on the line 493 00:38:44,386 --> 00:38:45,605 to do that. 494 00:38:45,648 --> 00:38:47,955 That essentially could've ruined her career, 495 00:38:47,998 --> 00:38:50,218 and she did it. 496 00:38:50,261 --> 00:38:51,654 She did it anyway. 497 00:38:51,698 --> 00:38:57,486 ♪ 498 00:38:57,530 --> 00:39:00,402 That glass ceiling, we're shattering it. 499 00:39:00,446 --> 00:39:03,405 You know, granted, still to this day we're not getting paid 500 00:39:03,449 --> 00:39:06,669 as much as men, and we still have some obstacles, 501 00:39:06,713 --> 00:39:08,628 but we'll take the little victories. 502 00:39:11,674 --> 00:39:16,810 I think with the platform that I am given, 503 00:39:16,853 --> 00:39:19,987 I don't want to be selfish and just focus on me. 504 00:39:20,030 --> 00:39:22,250 It's not about me, it's about the issues 505 00:39:22,293 --> 00:39:24,208 that's going on right now. 506 00:39:24,252 --> 00:39:27,473 When I'm done wrestling, I want people to say, 507 00:39:27,516 --> 00:39:30,650 "She's the one that opened up about domestic violence. 508 00:39:30,693 --> 00:39:34,567 Now look at what's happened with that story." 509 00:39:34,610 --> 00:39:38,527 [Cheering] 510 00:39:42,052 --> 00:39:45,708 [Distant shouting] 511 00:40:15,434 --> 00:40:22,310 ♪ 512 00:40:38,718 --> 00:40:54,473 ♪ 513 00:40:54,516 --> 00:40:58,302 [Applause] 514 00:41:12,447 --> 00:41:15,319 That's really kind of the other thing that I found interesting 515 00:41:15,363 --> 00:41:18,453 when talking to people, is how much what you do in the ring has 516 00:41:18,497 --> 00:41:20,629 affected the world outside of the ring, 517 00:41:20,673 --> 00:41:23,545 and how much of an important role you've played in sort of 518 00:41:23,589 --> 00:41:26,505 this... I don't know, this amazing period of growth 519 00:41:26,548 --> 00:41:28,028 that's happened in this country. 520 00:41:55,011 --> 00:41:57,579 That's why I think the Fighting Cholitas are so important and 521 00:41:57,623 --> 00:42:02,018 so awesome for all of wrestling, is because it's not just amazing 522 00:42:02,062 --> 00:42:05,195 wrestling, there's also like fighting against discrimination, 523 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,284 fighting against oppression, 524 00:42:07,328 --> 00:42:09,635 and fighting against unfair labour practices. 525 00:42:09,678 --> 00:42:11,854 And that's... you know, and it's just so much more 526 00:42:11,898 --> 00:42:13,203 than just fighting in the ring. 527 00:42:13,247 --> 00:42:14,422 It's fighting outside of the ring that you do 528 00:42:14,465 --> 00:42:16,163 that's so inspiring. 529 00:42:16,206 --> 00:42:39,882 ♪ 530 00:43:14,917 --> 00:43:24,927 ♪