Narrator: It was supposed to be an exciting day
for two brothers.
But one of them never shows up.
First day of deer season, he'd never miss it.
Not one time.
Narrator: A police search leads to a disturbing discovery.
Pete: Police could see one appeared to be a shallow grave.
And we thought we knew who it was.
It turns out, we had no idea.
Keith: Everybody we talked to
didn't actually know where he was.
They didn't know anything about any body being found
in the backyard.
Narrator: To find the truth, investigators must unravel
a puzzle entangle of family relationships.
Pete: We have no clue
as to what is exactly their relationship to each other was.
Keith: We thought we needed to look for the weakest link.
Narrator: Until they unearth a shocking connection
more twisted than they could imagine.
Ronda: When love is involved,
that is a very powerful motivator.
[***]
Pete: Bridgeville is located on the western side
of, uh, Sussex County
that's got two red lights.
That's about it.
The biggest thing around Bridgeville
are the apple orchards.
Narrator: Surrounded by miles of farm land,
the houses in Bridgeville, Delaware have big front porches
and even bigger backyards.
Bridgeville is a place where you always feel welcome
and people can still feel, like, family
even if you don't know them personally.
And it's a very close-knit community.
[***]
Narrator: On a chilly day in late November 2001,
Delaware State Police received a call from worried relatives
of 61-year-old John Charbonneau
who lives by himself in Bridgeville.
Keith: The family lived in Vermont.
They had not been able to get in touch with John
for some time.
They were very concerned about him
because John Charbonneau had a heart condition.
Pete: Troopers went out to do a welfare check.
[***]
Keith: Upon arrival of the troopers,
um, they go up to the house, uh, knocked on the doors.
There's no answer.
There's no vehicles in the drive.
They can see by looking in the windows
that the house looks empty.
The troopers, uh, go further,
take a walk behind the residence.
Narrator: And as they survey the landscape,
the troopers noticed something peculiar
stowed in a secluded corner of the yard.
[***]
Keith: There were tires in the backyard.
There was a shovel in one of the tires.
They thought it looked strange because it was a grassy field
and in this area dirt was present, no grass.
So, it stood out.
This area was freshly dug.
This appeared to be a grave site.
[***]
Pete: Investigators from the state police
and the medical examiners were called to the scene.
They start going to digging,
the sifting of things of that nature.
They have to be very delicate.
They don't wanna disturb any evidence.
Keith: The first thing that, uh, investigators
that are exhuming the site find are linens
with what appeared to be blood soaking through them.
And once investigators started digging down
probably within a foot was what turned out to be...
the remains of a human body.
[***]
Keith: And it was fairly decomposed.
So, a lot couldn't be told.
But it was obvious that this was a White male.
His legs were bent at the knees.
He was laying on the side, wrapped in bed linens.
Narrator: Despite the advanced decomposition,
police think they know whose body they have unearthed.
Pete: The guess was that the body in the back
could possibly be that of the owner of the residence,
John Charbonneau.
Narrator: But as the forensic excavation continues,
they make an unexpected discovery.
During in this process, a wallet was recovered.
Pete: Inside there was a, uh, driver's license
with the name of Billy Sproates.
[***]
Pete: This was totally shocking.
Keith: This may be Billy Sproates.
We still don't know.
Pete: Because even though we thought we knew who it was,
you still have to have a positive ID.
The autopsy would give us that answer.
The biggest questions investigators had were,
where is John?
Who is Billy Sproates?
And why was he buried in a shallow grave
in John Charbonneau's backyard?
[***]
Ronda: Magnolia really is one of these types of towns where
you go for a long time without seeing another house.
You don't have the street lights.
You only have fields that stretch on for miles and miles.
Narrator: Magnolia, Delaware's rolling farm land
offers lots of places for families to explore.
It's the perfect place to grow up
for the active siblings of the Sproates Family.
There was five children in our family.
Uh, Billy being the oldest.
We were always in the fields working.
We would work before breakfast,
have breakfast, and then back to the fields again.
Narrator: The same dedication to work Billy displayed as a kid
carries over into adulthood.
David: My brother worked at a sawmill in Millington.
He would go there at 6:00, 7:00 in the morning.
Work until dark sometimes.
Janet: He didn't date a lot.
He was very shy, very quiet.
He wasn't really outgoing.
He was not pushy with people or anything.
Narrator: But everything changes for Billy in 1997.
David: When Linda Lou come along and started
batting eyes at him,
he, sort of, took ahold of that.
Next thing I know,
my brother married her.
That was the first girlfriend he's ever had in his life.
And he was stuck like glue.
Janet: She paid attention to him,
she tried to make him feel special.
And not a lot of people did because he was so quiet.
He seemed content.
Narrator: On a crisp fall morning,
Billy's brother David drives out to the woods
for a hunting trip the two had planned together.
David: I got out my vehicle and noticed that
his vehicle was not there.
So, I was, kind of, concerned because
Billy wouldn't miss this for nothing.
First day of deer season, he'd never miss it.
Not one time.
Narrator: David waits for his brother a while longer
then heads back home to check in with Billy's wife, Linda.
David: I called her up.
I says, "Where is Billy?
He was supposed to show up to go hunting."
And she said, "Oh, me and Billy had a fight.
I hadn't seen him in weeks."
Narrator: Linda tells him, she fears Billy is involved
with another woman.
David: I was worried.
So, I called the State Police
and told them that, um, my brother is missing.
They told me to wait at least a week
because he could've took off anywhere.
You never know.
So, we waited a week and Billy didn't show up.
So, I called them back
and asked them to file a missings persons.
Narrator: Investigators' first step
is to interview Billy's wife,
Linda.
Ronda: When the troopers did speak with Linda,
she did say that she had actually been living
with her ex-husband at the time while she and Billy
were having some problems.
Keith: But she had decided and talked to Billy
about moving back in with him.
He was excited for that to happen
and Linda had started the process
of moving, uh, some of her stuff
to Billy's residence.
Narrator: But Linda tells police that when she returned
to Billy's house in Magnolia, he was gone.
Pete: Linda said that Billy Sproates had basically
run off with a younger woman and had left a note.
And she hadn't heard from him since.
Pete: At that point,
there was nothing to indicate
where Billy was or anything like that.
Didn't make any sense.
And speaking to, uh, Billy Sproates' family,
there was a suspicion
that something was really wrong.
We had to find out who this woman was.
[***]
David: There's nothing wrong with it, I guess.
But I was pretty upset over it.
Keith: Several stains from the ceiling area.
Pete: Blood was found in the, uh, residence.
Keith: There was a thought that John Charbonneau
may have been involved.
But we just don't know where he could be.
Narrator: After Billy Sproates disappears in Delaware,
his wife Linda tells police she thought they were patching up
[***]
David: Billy loved Linda.
They would fight, argue,
but he wanted to make his marriage work.
When Linda Lou moved back to Billy's residence,
Billy Sproates wasn't there.
Keith: Linda told his brother David that he had left a note
saying that he was going off with a younger woman.
Not naming the woman.
Linda was extremely upset and did not save the note.
Narrator: Investigators checked with Billy's family and friends
but no one has any idea of who this woman might be.
And there's little to no information to locate her.
Hoping to get a lead on Billy's movements,
detectives attempt to obtain his bank and phone records.
Pete: Unfortunately,
Billy Sproates did not have a cell phone
and did not have a bank account.
He got paid in cash.
So, there was no bank records,
um, no ATM card to find.
Keith: There's really no evidence
to suggest where Billy is.
[***]
Pete: It was very frustrating
because we wanted answers.
His family said it was
very unusual for him to do this.
Janet: He wouldn't have ran away
without saying something where he was going.
You always knew where he was going
or what he was doing.
David: That didn't make sense to me.
I wanted to know where he was at.
I thought he was trying his damndest
to make everything work with Linda.
[***]
Narrator: With leads dwindling,
the search for Billy Sproates stalls,
until Delaware State Police are asked to check
on the well-being of another man in a nearby town.
Keith: About three weeks
after the missing person's investigation
began for Billy Sproates,
the Delaware State Police were contacted
by family members of John Charbonneau
because they had not been able to make contact with him.
[***]
Narrator: Officers head to the Charbonneau home
to conduct a welfare check.
Keith: When officers go out there,
they could see, like,
all the curtains were gone from the windows.
They thought it looked strange.
Pete: Police decided to go in the backyard
to try to see if there's any evidence there.
Explaining what happened to John.
The police could see
what appeared to be a shallow grave.
[***]
Narrator: Investigators begin digging
and quickly discover a man's body.
Pete: The body was lying face down
and was a bloody mess.
Keith: We could see that
the hands were bound behind the back.
Pete: The body was thought to believe
to be that of the missing man,
John Charbonneau.
Narrator: But the wallet found with the body
tells them otherwise.
It contains the driver's license of Billy Sproates.
[***]
Pete: That really was unsettling.
We thought we knew who it was.
It turns out, we had no idea.
And we have no clue as to what exactly
their relationship to each other was.
Narrator: After searching the home,
detectives are even more puzzled
about exactly what they're facing.
[***]
Pete: The place was abandoned.
Basically, cabinets off the wall,
the interior look like it had been stripped.
Keith: Could've been a burglary but certainly strange
that the individual that was missing,
um, nothing was there of his.
Narrator: But there's one thing investigators do know.
The victim's death was cruel and painful.
This was a very brutal crime.
Keith: There were stab wounds
that were observed in the torso
and as well as the head.
And there was also blunt force trauma
that was very prevalent in the head area.
Narrator: Using DNA analysis,
the medical examiner is able to provide one answer.
The body is in fact Billy Sproates'.
And the autopsy reveals
Billy's death was even more horrific
than police initially thought.
The ultimate cause of death
was asphyxia.
The autopsy showed
that he literally had dirt in his lungs.
He was actually buried alive.
[***]
Keith: The questions that we are asking ourselves
is who could be responsible
for a violent crime such as this?
Narrator: Investigators know the answer could lie
with the missing home owner.
Keith: It was thought that John Charbonneau may have been
involved in the death of Billy Sproates.
Especially where Billy Sproates' body was found behind his home.
Narrator: An autopsy reveals
that Billy Sproates was buried alive
in the backyard of a Bridgeville, Delaware home.
And police can find no sign of the home owner,
John Charbonneau.
[***]
Narrator: Investigators delivered the devastating news
to Billy's family in nearby, Magnolia.
It was very, very upsetting.
Very upsetting to the whole family.
He was alive when they buried him.
He didn't deserve this.
He did not deserve any bit of this.
Keith: Linda was extremely upset.
She wanted us to find out
who was responsible
for what happened to Billy.
Narrator: When the investigators tell Linda
where Billy's body was buried,
she stuns them with an unexpected revelation.
Turns out that Billy Sproates
was John Charbonneau's, uh, nephew.
Narrator: But the connection between the two men
goes even deeper.
Not only are John Charbonneau and Billy Sproates related,
they had both been married to the same woman,
Linda.
Billy Sproates is the current
husband to Linda.
And John Charbonneau was previously married to Linda.
[***]
Pete: We wanted to make contact with John Charbonneau's family.
To, uh, find out what exactly that relationship was like.
We are thinking at that point
was there any, kind of, uh, animosity
between John or his nephew, uh, Billy Sproates
because they both had been married to Linda.
[***]
Keith: We soon learned that John was
a member of a very large family from Vermont.
He moved to the Bridgeville area
and was married to Linda Charbonneau.
Melissa Rucinski was the stepdaughter
of John Charbonneau.
She looked to him as a father figure.
And he absolutely adored Melissa,
you know, he really took care of her.
And he was a very caring stepfather and husband.
He did whatever he could to make Melissa and Linda happy.
Narrator: John and Linda stayed together for close to 20 years.
But as he got older, John's health began to fail.
He was collecting disability.
He had several heart attacks, was on heart medication.
Ronda: John just started to isolate himself.
Eventually, it did lead to John and Linda divorcing.
Narrator: As they search for John,
police continue interviewing family members
including his stepdaughter, Melissa Rucinski
and her boyfriend Tony Brown who lived nearby.
Melissa and Tony said that he was on jury duty,
that was checked into and that was confirmed.
But after that, everybody that we talked to
didn't actually know where he was.
And they didn't know anything
about any body being found in the backyard.
Ronda: Melissa was really concerned.
She said he was a very caring father
and not knowing where her loved one is.
It was really torture for Melissa.
Narrator: As they learned more
about the family from their interviews,
instead of answers,
investigators find themselves facing more questions
and growing concerns.
David: Uncle Johnny was married to Linda
and when they divorced,
she started to coming around Billy.
And teasing him,
and talking to him,
and Billy started dating her.
Next thing I know, my brother married her.
Which, yes. There's no blood.
There's nothing wrong with it, I guess.
But I was pretty upset over it.
But they were happy.
Narrator: Police learned David wasn't the only one
upset about the marriage.
David: Uncle Johnny wasn't happy
with Billy doing what he did
but you couldn't talk him out of it.
Narrator: Now, Billy is dead and John is missing.
And police wonder if his anger over his nephew's marriage
to his ex-wife could've boiled over into murder.
When love is involved,
that is a very powerful motivator.
Given the length of time that John and Linda were together
to have her leave and go back to Billy
that could've really just torn that bond
between uncle and nephew apart.
John may have felt that the only way
that he could get Linda back
was to make sure that Billy was out of the picture.
Keith: Within the kitchen area of the home,
several areas of what appeared to be blood were found.
They found blood evidence on some boxes.
Pete: Once you stood back, you could see
that it appeared to be a skull.
Narrator: Sixty-one-year-old John Charbonneau
is missing in Delaware.
And investigators are working to make sense
of his role in an apparent love triangle
that's left his 45-year-old nephew
Billy Sproates dead.
[***]
Pete: Linda Lou Charbonneau told us
she was living at John's residence
because her and Billy were always arguing.
But they had made up.
So, she had notified John that she was going to be moving
to Billy's residence
to be living with Billy Sproates again.
But when Linda Lou moved back,
she said Billy Sproates wasn't there.
Keith: She said that John Charbonneau was upset
about her moving back in with Billy Sproates.
And that he may be responsible for what happened to Billy.
Narrator: When investigators
pulled John Charbonneau's bank records,
what they discover only adds to the mystery.
We were able to obtain ATM records
and we were able to get video of the person using the ATM.
And we saw several transactions.
Keith: And Melissa was actually captured on the video
making a withdrawal.
So, that seemed odd.
Narrator: The withdrawals by John's stepdaughter
were made after John was reported missing.
But when confronted with this, she explains
things are not as sinister as they may appear.
Keith: She said that he left his bank card
at their residence.
And, uh, sometimes, she would go
cash a check for him or something
at the, uh, grocery store.
So, that's why she had it in her possession.
Narrator: But detectives remain skeptical.
They secure a search warrant for Billy's Sproates' home
in Magnolia where Melissa and her boyfriend
have moved in with her mother.
What they find only adds to their suspicion.
Keith: Within the kitchen area of the home,
several areas of what appeared to be blood,
uh, were found.
Several stains along the paneling
including the ceiling,
several stains on the ceiling area.
A window,
small stains on the interior side.
Window curtains.
And a lot of the molding around the floor area.
Stain on the molding.
Narrator: Investigators noticed something suspicious
outside the home, too.
Keith: During the search of Linda's van,
areas of what appeared to be spattered blood
was found on the skirting of the captain's chairs
and the rear of the van.
Narrator: The family tells detectives they don't know
what the stains are or where they came from.
Keith: All that evidence was collected
and transported to the lab for analysis.
Pete: These analyses take weeks.
You can't rush it. It has to go step by step.
Narrator: But the lab is backlogged
and police will have to wait
even longer for results.
All they know is that some, kind of, violent altercation
took place inside Billy's home.
David: Billy was dead.
But where was Uncle Johnny?
Ronda: John Charbonneau was still missing.
Is John on the run?
Narrator: Months passed with no answers.
And detectives grow discouraged.
But then, they received a startling phone call
from inside a Delaware Prison.
Pete: Melissa's ex-husband John Rucinski was a burglar
and he was an inmate
at the Sussex County Correctional Institute.
He had access to TV, had heard on the news
about the body of Billy Sproates being located.
He said that Melissa and Linda Lou
had actually propositioned him
about killing John Charbonneau.
One of their plans was to do something to scare him
into having a heart attack
and hitting him in the head
and burying him in the backyard.
Narrator: Melissa's ex says Linda planned to continue
collecting John's disability pay after he was dead
but he refused to help with the plot.
And he and Melissa divorced shortly afterwards.
He believes Linda might be behind Billy's murder.
Pete: Because Rucinski had been married to Melissa,
he knew Linda Lou.
He witnessed Linda Lou would--
had actually assaulted Billy Sproates
and because Billy was just so dedicated to her,
he didn't even put up a fight.
He just stood there and took it.
Rucinski implicated Melissa and Linda Lou.
He had his own criminal past
but there was some things
that were obviously red flags to us.
Keith: Investigators are now thinking that
maybe John Charbonneau
was not involved in Billy's death,
Narrator: Police hone in on Linda Charbonneau
as their main suspect after hearing allegations
she plotted to kill her former husband John
who is still missing.
Pete: We had the body of Billy Sproates,
we knew John Charbonneau was missing
but we just didn't know what happened to him.
Narrator: Then in April 2002,
the crime lab finally delivers the results of the test
on the stains found in Linda's home and van.
Pete: The blood that we found in Billy's residence came back
to being that of, uh, Billy Sproates.
Keith: And blood evidence that was located and collected
from Linda's van
came back to John Charbonneau.
We were very concerned
that John Charbonneau could've been killed
in the same way that Billy Sproates was killed.
Narrator: But police have no proof of that,
nor enough evidence to make any arrests.
Linda Charbonneau, her daughter Melissa Rucinski,
and Melissa's boyfriend Tony Brown
all had access to both the house and to the van,
and none of them have solid alibis.
Pete: We've done everything that we can.
These are our suspects but we need a confession.
We thought we needed to look for the weakest link.
We know it's not gonna be Linda Charbonneau,
but we think Melissa could very possibly be
the one that's gonna talk.
[***]
Pete: We brought Melissa in to the interview room,
we spoke on and off for eight hours that day.
And Melissa finally confesses
and tells us what had happened that night
that John Charbonneau was murdered.
Narrator: Melissa tells police the crime occurred
on the evening of September 23rd, 2001.
Keith: Linda wanted the disability check
that John Charbonneau was receiving monthly.
Melissa had received a call from her mom
that tonight's the night
that we have to do something with John.
This is a plan that her mom had come up with.
Pete: The plan was for Linda Lou
to leave a side door unlocked
and that way Tony Brown
would be able to get inside the house.
[***]
Keith: And Linda was gonna say
that someone was trying to break in
and get John to go investigate.
Pete: Melissa said she saw Tony Brown
over John hitting him.
Linda Lou, according to Melissa
was just standing there watching.
She heard John say, "Linda,
are you gonna let him do this to me?"
[***]
Ronda: That was heartbreaking to know that
his last moments in life were like that.
And finding out Melissa was involved just took it
to another level because John did love her so much.
Keith: Linda directs, uh, Melissa and Tony
to get rid of John Charbonneau.
Pete: So they loaded John Charbonneau's body
into the back of the van.
Melissa said she drove
but that she didn't know where she was going.
Tony Brown kept telling her which turns to take.
Narrator: Once they're deep in the woods
Tony tells Melissa to stop the van.
Tony took the body into the woods...
and buried him.
Then stripped his house from the inside,
took it up to Billy's residence.
Keith: Melissa indicates that the reason
that Billy was killed
is that because he found what he believed
to be blood evidence on some boxes
that were being moved into his home.
He started asking questions
about what happened to his Uncle John.
Pete: And Linda Lou said, "Well,
Billy's got to go."
[***]
Ronda: Linda contacted Billy
and asked him to come home and she wanted to talk.
Once there Billy was met with not only Linda
but Tony and Melissa.
There he was stabbed.
He was put in the back of the family van
and driven to John Charbonneau's house
not wanting to bury him at their own home.
They got him out of the van
to bury him and the evidence does support
that Billy was alive when he was buried
as there was dirt in his lungs.
Narrator: At Melissa's request,
Tony Brown who is currently in jail
on a parole violation
corroborates this horrifying story
and offers to help police tie up one major loose end.
Keith: He agreed to take us
to where John Charbonneau was buried.
[***]
Narrator: On a warm summer day
investigators head into the Delaware woods
with Tony Brown.
Keith: The area is very secluded,
very rural.
Pete: Not 50 yards in,
he points to the grave.
Narrator: Investigators carefully uncover
what's been buried in the woods.
Pete: Once you stood back
you could see that it appeared to be a skull,
and it was indeed a human body.
It turned out to be John Charbonneau.
Keith: The autopsy report on John Charbonneau
indicated that the cause of death was blunt force trauma
and the manner of death was homicide.
David: When they finally found Uncle Johnny,
it was a good thing.
It was a good thing for the whole family
to have some closure.
Narrator: Now authorities finally
have enough evidence to begin making arrests.
Pete: When we arrested Melissa and Tony
they had both pretty much confessed
to one degree or another. They knew it was coming.
Keith: And on July 8th arrest warrants
were obtained for Linda Charbonneau
for the murder of John Charbonneau
and also, uh, Billy Sproates.
[***]
David: The day that we found out
that she was arrested
that was one of the biggest reliefs.
We was all high fiving each other.
Keith: But once you make the arrest
the investigation is certainly not over.
Narrator: And as they prepare for trial,
prosecutors tell detectives
that even with Melissa and Tony's confessions,
securing a conviction for Linda may not be easy.
We really didn't have any physical evidence
against Linda Charbonneau.
Pete: She pretty much blamed everything
on Tony Brown and her daughter Melissa.
She was just a poor innocent bystander.
Narrator: The prosecutors believe
that to make the case stick
they'll need someone to flip.
Keith: We really needed someone to testify
and tell the story about her knowledge
of both murders in this trial.
So it was decided that a plea offer
was gonna be made to Tony Brown
and if he did testify the death penalty
would be taken off the table.
He agreed to that, he plead guilty
to two counts of murder first
which is life in prison.
Narrator: But the prosecutors conclude
that Tony will likely not be a reliable witness
and decide not to put him on the stand.
They only have one other person to turn to.
So it was decided then
to approach the attorney of Melissa Rucinski
to see if she would be willing to testify
against her own mother in her mother's trial.
Ronda: There's no way that they can actually
make her testify so that--
[***]
Narrator: Prosecutors in Delaware are convinced
that Linda Charbonneau masterminded the murders
of John Charbonneau and Billy Sproates
but they fear their only chance of convicting her
is convincing her daughter Melissa
who is also charged with murder
to testify against her mother.
Ronda: It would be very difficult
but the prosecution really had a strong argument.
Keith: We offered a plea deal
to Melissa Rucinski
for her to testify against her mother.
She has really the most to lose.
Ronda: She has children that she loves
and with as much evidence as it seemed there was
it really seemed inevitable that she was going to be
sentenced for life or even the death penalty.
Narrator: Melissa accepts the deal
which puts her in prison for 25 years.
Keith: Melissa Rucinski plead guilty to murder two,
she also plead guilty to the conspiracy
because she knew about everything
that was gonna be going on with Billy Sproates.
Narrator: As Linda Charbonneau's
murder trial begins,
her daughter takes the stand.
She paints a vivid picture for the jury,
explaining how Linda manipulated her
and her boyfriend Tony Brown into murdering John Charbonneau
so that they could continue to cash his disability checks.
Pete: And Billy Sproates was killed because mainly
he was asking questions about his uncle
who was already killed.
[***]
Pete: Then Linda had told everyone
that Billy had left a note
and had run off with a younger woman.
Keith: Although, Linda Charbonneau
did not have hands on in either murder
she was the driving force for both.
She was the engineer that was controlling everything.
Narrator: Linda's lawyers argue that she was the one
being manipulated by Melissa and Tony.
After two days of deliberations the jury has its say.
Keith: The verdict in the Linda Charbonneau trial
was guilty of two counts of murder in the first degree.
Ronda: Linda was sentenced to death
which was actually the first time
in the state of Delaware that a woman
had been sentenced to the death penalty since 1935.
David: We were happy, we were all celebrating,
we finally got her.
Narrator: But Linda's conviction is overturned
after her lawyers argued that they were prevented
from questioning Tony Brown during the trial.
Two years later prosecutors are preparing
for Linda's second trial
but this time there's a hitch.
Melissa Rucinski refuses to testify.
Narrator: With their number one witness now unavailable,
prosecutors scramble to salvage their case.
Ronda: They ended up presenting a plea
where she would plead to John's death
but not Billy's
and she was ultimately sentenced
to 20 years which was actually less time
than her daughter was sentenced to.
David: We was upset about that,
very, very upset.
Janet: I was devastated to say the least
but it was over and something was being done.
Narrator: It's not the justice they'd hope for
but the family is comforted that at least
Linda Charbonneau will pay some price
for what she has stolen from them.
They take what comfort they can
from their memories of John and Billy.
David: Uncle John he was a really,
really intelligent man, he was good with the pen,
he was good with the pencil.
He could draw anything you ever wanted.
He was a good person.
And Billy was the kindest person
that you ever want to be around.
We argued, we laughed, and we had good times together.
I'm 66 years old,
he would be 67,
we would still be hunting together.
We would still be fishing together.
Doing things that brothers supposed to do
throughout their life.
Yeah. I miss him.
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