1 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,640 [man] Whenever things happen to certain people that they love, 2 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,280 they're gonna do everything they can to make you out to be a monster. 3 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,960 To make sure you get what they believe you deserve, 4 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,800 which is, at the time, a lot of them wanted me to die. 5 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,240 And here I sit 18 years later. 6 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,040 [man] I just consider myself just, uh... 7 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:07,840 a down-to-earth, normal person 8 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,560 who tries to help others and better myself at the same time. 9 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:17,880 More like a people person. 10 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,960 I try to look out for people. I got a caring heart. 11 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:38,880 [man 1] And I walked up, I fired one shot. 12 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:41,320 And as I got closer, I fired one more shot. 13 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,160 [man 2] She was shot through the cheek and it stopped in her jaw. 14 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,680 [man 3] I drove him around behind a desk and I stabbed him approximately 25 times. 15 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:57,800 [man 4] I couldn't believe it. 16 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,120 I just thought I can't believe I just killed somebody. 17 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,160 [man 5] I don't feel bad about it. [laughs] 18 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,880 [man 6] I started stabbing him, stabbing the guy on the couch. 19 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,600 [keys clinking] 20 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,400 [chains rattling] 21 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,400 [Buchanan] I was born in Centreville, Illinois. 22 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,520 It's a part of the city in East St. Louis. 23 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:22,880 I was born to some young parents, 24 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,680 so my grandparents on my mom and dad's side 25 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,640 played a major role in raising me. 26 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,000 They taught me the right... 27 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,160 you know, right from wrong, try to put me on a path. 28 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,400 My father, uh, he really kept me on a narrow path, 29 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,200 exposed me to religion. 30 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,920 I had to go to church every Sunday. 31 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,200 Made sure that I brought home good grades 32 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,760 and pretty much exposed me to all different types of instruments, 33 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,520 sports, science, you name it. 34 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,520 Him and I used to take rides on his motorcycle. 35 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,160 But this particular day, he wouldn't let me ride with him. 36 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,120 And I was-- We kinda, like, my own little way, 37 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,840 I displayed my little, uh, frustration and anger. 38 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,440 But being that I know my father, 39 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:23,399 I knew... [chuckles] I knew not to get too, uh, out of hand 40 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,080 because I didn't wanna get a whooping. 41 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:27,960 So I stormed off. 42 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,240 And, uh... And I was playing in the yard, 43 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,720 and my cousin's father, 44 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,280 he pulled up in this truck, 45 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,040 he said, "I think your dad was in an accident. Get in the truck." 46 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,280 And so I got in the truck, he took me to this, uh, area. 47 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:55,120 And when we got there, it was a wreck, looked like a wrecked motorcycle. 48 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,560 And they took the sheet off and I saw my father's body. 49 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,080 And, uh, it was... It was a gruesome sight. 50 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,080 I believe that was a pivotal point in my life 51 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,280 that caused me to stray another path. 52 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:23,640 I started fighting, 53 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,280 getting in trouble, fighting in school, fighting in the neighborhood. 54 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,080 Instead of it stopping, it just continued. 55 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,400 But around that time, I think I was 13, turning 14, 56 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,160 that's when my cousins from California came down 57 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,320 and they introduced me to selling these drugs 58 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,240 and the work and the money. 59 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,840 I was like, "Wow, I made this money, and I didn't do nothing." 60 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,520 In my mind, I'm thinking this was no work. 61 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,680 It was a serious epidemic in the inner cities 62 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,200 with this cocaine thing. 63 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,000 To me, it wasn't no work, 64 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,880 just taking a piece of drugs and giving it to somebody else. 65 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,920 And I'm making more money over here than I was over here. 66 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,760 I was intelligent enough to see it was more money over here, 67 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:25,080 but I wasn't intelligent enough to know exactly where I was going. 68 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,320 [cars honking] 69 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,720 And it was like a beginning and no end. 70 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,040 I believe that's when I started carrying a lot of weapons. 71 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,160 And I think what really enhanced it, I was robbed once. 72 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,680 And I was, in my mind, like, that'll never happen again, 73 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,120 so I made sure I kept a weapon on me at all times. 74 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,720 -[horn honks in distance] -[dog barking] 75 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,240 Whenever I was in Columbia, 76 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,320 I paid a guy 50 bucks a day to answer the door. 77 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:09,720 I didn't trust 78 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,520 'cause a friend of mine got shot and killed through the door. 79 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,080 And so somebody called me and say, 80 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,080 "Man, be careful. Don't be answering no doors. So-and-so just got killed." 81 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:20,440 So I hired a guy. 82 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,480 I would give him $50, 83 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,160 either in drugs or money, whichever one he wanted. 84 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,360 I told him, "However you want it, I'mma give it to you. 85 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,080 All I need you to do is answer that door whenever I'm over here." 86 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,040 I thought everything was under control 87 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,840 'cause I surrounded myself with these type of people. 88 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,400 People who believed in violence, people who believed in selling drugs. 89 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,280 I-- I was just fully invested in it for myself into that. 90 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,920 I think the glamour of that lifestyle kinda captivated me. 91 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,120 And, unfortunately, what's in the dark comes to the light. 92 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,160 [Buchanan] I first met Angela through her cousin. 93 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,000 And we both just-- From first sight, we saw each other, 94 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,520 it was just one of them moments. We were-- 95 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,680 She liked how I looked, I liked how she looked, 96 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,240 and we just begun to talk and, uh, we went out on a date, 97 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:23,840 and it never stopped. 98 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,440 She was a very beautiful, intelligent girl at that. 99 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,280 We eventually ended up living together 100 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,360 and then we eventually ended up having a little girl. 101 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,920 I'll never forget the day she gave birth to her, I was at the hospital. 102 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,080 I was right in the, uh, delivery room with her, 103 00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:46,959 and, uh, she came out of her mom's womb. 104 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,720 And I just was like, "Oh, my God." 105 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,520 And I know how overprotective I am 106 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,160 of women in my family and my little sister, so I know. 107 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,680 I'm looking at my daughter like... 108 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:02,520 I'm fittin' to do everything I can to make sure she okay. 109 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,760 And, uh, we eventually had our second child. 110 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,600 I mean, it's, uh, unconditional. 111 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,800 Knowing that that's your daughter, man, I was like-- 112 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,000 I didn't ever put my hands on her. [chuckles] 113 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,120 I'm serious. I would never whoop my daughters. 114 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,920 I really didn't expose Angela 115 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,080 to too much of my criminal activity in the beginning. 116 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,240 But eventually, when one of our houses got broken in, 117 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,640 I had to explain to her my lifestyle. 118 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,720 We sat down and I said, "Look, we can't let nobody else know where we live at." 119 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:52,200 And one day, I left to take care of some business. 120 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,200 And we had a security system and all this, you know, uh-- 121 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,800 So when I got back, my little brother said, 122 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,320 "Do you know that Angie's cousin just left from over here?" 123 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,800 And I was like, "No." I say, "How does she even know where we live at?" 124 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:09,520 He was like, "I don't know." 125 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,000 And so me being who I am, I'm like, "What the--?" 126 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,160 I'm already just fucked up from hearing this information, literally. 127 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,520 I'm blown away 'cause I already had a talk with her a while back 128 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,920 about the security measures that we had to keep in place. 129 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,840 And then I find out that it was some guys in this car 130 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,600 in the driveway that brought her over there. 131 00:10:32,680 --> 00:10:35,720 So not only do I not know who these guys are, 132 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,200 so this really got me hot. 133 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,040 So we had-- We fall out that night. 134 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,760 There was a little domestic abuse. 135 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,640 I ended shaking her up a little bit. 136 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,720 I grabbed her and I shook her 137 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,400 because she wouldn't tell me exactly what I thought I should hear. 138 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,440 And she was like, "Oh, it was just my cousin." 139 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,080 And I was like, "Who the fuck was it in the fucking car? 140 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,880 Who was these dudes came over?" 141 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,280 "Oh, I don't know." And I'm like, "Why the fuck you didn't--?" I'm hot. 142 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,360 And so she called the police. 143 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,680 -They came, they arrested me. -[siren blaring] 144 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,040 They took her, locked me up. 145 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,520 I came back, got my clothes. 146 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,080 'Cause I didn't even trust being in this house no more. 147 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,280 The security was just infiltrated. 148 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:33,160 And so having them experiences with certain family members, 149 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,120 it caused me not to trust certain people. 150 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,320 I think we were celebrating my auntie's-- She just got an apartment. 151 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,680 [music playing over radio] 152 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,160 We all partying, we kicking it and stuff like this. 153 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:16,560 Socializing. 154 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,960 [indistinct chatter] 155 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,360 And I wanted to smoke some marijuana. 156 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,520 So I called a friend of mine and he dropped it off. 157 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,120 I say to my door guy, 158 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,680 "I thought he said he was gonna hang out and, uh, smoke some with us?" 159 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,280 "He say he had to pick up his girl from work or something." 160 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,840 I say, "Okay, where the stuff at?" 161 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,240 He gave it to me. 162 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,400 And I noticed that the bedroom door was open and the light was on. 163 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:57,600 I went to the back, 164 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,200 broke it down, put it in a little paper, started smoking it. 165 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,160 And, uh, I heard a door open. 166 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,880 So I go up there, I say, "Who-- Who just came in here?" 167 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,200 And everybody was like, "Ain't nobody come in here." 168 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:33,600 But I had noticed that the bathroom light was off and the bedroom door was closed. 169 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,040 Anyway, they told me there weren't nobody. 170 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,200 So I go get my door guy, 171 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,680 I say, "Well, if there ain't nobody in here, 172 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,480 go open up the bedroom door 173 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,040 'cause the door was just open." 174 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,880 And he saying, "Man, you tripping. Ain't nobody in there." 175 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,720 But he never would open up the door. 176 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,480 So I go grab a weapon. 177 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,200 I say, "Man, go open up the fucking door." 178 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:26,000 And in the midst of this, I don't know how and what was going on within me, 179 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,760 while I'm talking about this door, 180 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,400 all of a sudden, I get to feeling strange as a motherfucker. 181 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,080 My mind is just not right. 182 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:42,360 Like, whatever I was smoking, it was beyond what I've smoked before. 183 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,560 I mean, really, it started taking its effect on me. 184 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,200 And I'm like, "Man, I ain't feeling right." 185 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:48,520 He was like, "Man, you tripping." 186 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,680 I'm like, "No, I'm serious. Something's wrong with me, man." 187 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,800 I say, "Man, go open up the fucking door!" And fuck, that's all I really remember. 188 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,320 I don't even know what took place all the way up to 12:50 a.m. 189 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,320 I don't even know what the fuck happened. 190 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,720 [gunshots] 191 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,560 -[siren blaring] -[indistinct radio chatter] 192 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,600 The whole time, the radio is... 193 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,160 just full of the dispatcher giving information. 194 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,280 [indistinct radio chatter] 195 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,240 [Jeff] There were people shot. 196 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,960 They were trying to give a suspect description, 197 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,160 one piece of information right after the next. 198 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,040 -[siren continues] -[indistinct radio chatter] I got in my car and started towards Sexton Street. 199 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,120 I knew that would be the, uh, quickest way to get to Mary Street. 200 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,360 -[siren blaring] -[indistinct radio chatter] 201 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,360 [Jeff] When I turned the corner onto Mary Street, 202 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,720 I saw someone lying on the ground. 203 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,680 [crickets chirping] 204 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,400 When I got out, I could see that there was a woman laying here 205 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,960 and there were children on top of her. 206 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,400 One of them was trying to get out from under her arm. 207 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,840 And there was blood pooling around her neck. 208 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,720 She had no idea that we were there. She was not conscious. 209 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,440 She was barely breathing. She was bleeding out. 210 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,120 She didn't respond to us at all. 211 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,320 Um, we knew that it was bad for her. 212 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:02,280 She... 213 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:09,200 was obviously holding those children when she got shot, and... 214 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,120 it appeared to me, by the way she was laying there, 215 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,280 that she had opened her arms up 216 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,240 so that her children would avoid the blast. 217 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,560 [man on radio] Copy. In or out. [indistinct radio chatter] 218 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:38,960 [ambulance siren blaring] 219 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,040 [indistinct radio chatter] 220 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,280 I started yelling at him to show me his hands, 221 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:49,720 keep his hands where I could see them. 222 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,480 And he was doing what I was asking him to do, 223 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,480 but he seemed worked up. 224 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,120 He was yelling really fast 225 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,640 to the point that I couldn't understand a lot of what he was saying. 226 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,000 [Buchanan yelling] Get off of me! 227 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,600 [indistinct chatter] 228 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:13,320 [Buchanan yelling] 229 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,600 [indistinct chatter] 230 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,360 [Krista] I do remember being kind of surprised 231 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,200 that even though he was acting so agitated, 232 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,640 that he was doing the things that I was telling him to do. 233 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,240 So I knew that he was at least understanding my commands. 234 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,480 [indistinct chatter] 235 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,560 [siren blaring] 236 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,280 [Buchanan] I was arrested, placed in a police car. 237 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:50,800 According to what I seen in paperwork, 238 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,640 they said I was slamming my head all up against the police door and windows. 239 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,560 I don't even remember none of this stuff. 240 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:01,080 And I said that, uh... I was talking about somebody was trying to kill me. 241 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,280 It was either them or me. 242 00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:05,440 And they said I was belligerent, and sweating, 243 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,400 and mucus coming all out my nose, sweating hard. 244 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,600 And at one point in time, I think they said I told them, 245 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,680 "Y'all can't protect me! Y'all can't protect me!" 246 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,080 So they put me in a, uh, suicide cell observation. 247 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,000 I think I slept, like, two days. 248 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:27,640 And then when I finally came out of whatever it was I was dealing with, 249 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,000 whatever effect this drug had on me, 250 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:35,880 and, uh, she sat me down and she was like, "Do you know what you're in here for?" 251 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,320 And when she told me, a tear came down my eye 252 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,920 and I was like, "You bullshit." She was like, "No." 253 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:02,560 Well, that night, I was told I shot Juanita Hoffman, my auntie, 254 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,240 William Jefferson, my stepfather, 255 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,120 and I shot my girlfriend, Angela. 256 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:24,720 I actually gave up. 257 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,440 I said, "Fuck it. If they kill me, they kill me." 258 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,400 Shit, after what I realized what I'd done, 259 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,440 I was like, "Man, they gonna execute me. Fuck it, let them execute me." 260 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:41,240 I mean, 'cause I felt like why should I live based on what I just done? 261 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,800 Even though I didn't intentionally do it, but knowing that I'm responsible for it, 262 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,120 I didn't even wanna live no more. 263 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,840 [crickets chirping] 264 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,400 [siren blaring in distance] 265 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:37,920 [woman] I like winter. 266 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,760 [exhales] I like winter and fall. 267 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,800 Everybody worries about me in November because they know it's hard. 268 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,080 It's a hard time for me 269 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,280 because of the thing that happened in November. 270 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,440 I'm Angela's mom, Valeria. 271 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,160 Angela was one of the persons Deandra had killed that night. 272 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,800 And two other people, he had also took their lives. 273 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,880 But he took the life of his mother of his own children. 274 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,600 Everybody she came in contact with 275 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,680 say she's mature for her age, she talked well. 276 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,920 She didn't go to bars. She hated them. 277 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,720 She stayed home and read books. Oh, she was a bookworm. 278 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,560 And when Angie turned 16, she came to me and said, 279 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,600 "Momma, I wanna go out on a date with this guy." 280 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:47,120 I said, "Okay, well, we need to talk to him." 281 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:54,120 He was a total gentleman because he was nice, polite, spoke polite, 282 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,240 brought her back on time, 283 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,200 and called her on the phone like normal girlfriend and boyfriends. 284 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,800 You wouldn't think that he was a wolf in sheep's clothing. 285 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,880 Around Christmastime, she called me. 286 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,000 She said, "Mom..." 287 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,960 She said, "Deandra's done lost his mind. He said the baby, it wasn't his." 288 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,360 So I said, "Angie, don't stay there 289 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,080 'cause you know you always can come home." 290 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,360 The door was always open for her. 291 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,640 And then she wouldn't come back over to the house anymore. 292 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,080 He wouldn't let her come. He kept her hidden away. 293 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,840 Well, then she got shot and killed. 294 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,240 -You all right? -Oh, my God. 295 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,560 [Brown] Angie had two girls, 296 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,800 and I took them because they're my granddaughters. 297 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,640 "If tomorrow starts without me, don't think we're far apart. 298 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,920 For every time you think of me, I'm right here in your heart." 299 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,800 [Brown] I had a deep hate, 300 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,440 and I want him to hurt just like he hurt everybody else. 301 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,760 I want them to put him to death 302 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:53,080 because he deserves it. 303 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,800 I mean, he killed the people that you say you love. 304 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,080 He didn't love them that much if he's gonna take their lives. 305 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,760 He needs to explain why, you know. 306 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,640 Why did you kill the people that actually truly love you? 307 00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:39,760 -You want another water? -Yes. 308 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,280 Sure thing. 309 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,280 -Yeah. -That's crazy. 310 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,520 [woman] Growing up with Deandra, he was, um, spoiled. 311 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,000 He was a spoiled kid. He had everything. 312 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,640 I'll get you some serving spoons. 313 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,040 Toni, you want bread? 314 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,440 Me and my sisters, you know, we girls, 315 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,240 but we went to grandmama's house to play with his toys 316 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,400 because he had everything. 317 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,840 But he was cool. He was somebody that I looked up to. 318 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,520 And my family's close-knit, so we just always been close. 319 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,240 [sniffs] We grew a bond. 320 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,240 And it was more of a sister-brother bond with all of us. 321 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,320 He was never mistreated at home. We all had a good life. 322 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,520 You know, some better than others, 323 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,120 but me and my cousins, we all had a good life. 324 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,280 [Rush] I called his dad "Uncle Joon-Joon." 325 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:48,840 So I remember when Uncle Joon-Joon passed away, 326 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,480 and I know it affected Deandra. 327 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:57,800 I don't think that he even cried like a normal child would, 328 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,040 losing their parent. 329 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,440 Um, but it's... you know. 330 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,240 Over the years, he found different ways to deal with it. 331 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,440 As he got a little older, he started smoking marijuana. 332 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,160 And I think that kind of took the-- the edge off for him. 333 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,120 [Rush] My mom, Juanita Hoffman, 334 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,880 she was awesome. 335 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,720 Nobody is perfect, but when you speak of Juanita Hoffman, 336 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,560 she was the closest thing to being perfect. 337 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,840 My house phone rang 338 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,840 and I picked it up, and it was my sister, my big sister, Shontai. 339 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,880 Very upset, uh... 340 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,560 And it was more of a scream in the phone, 341 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,200 "Toni, you need to come in town because Deandra, he shot her." 342 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,480 So I'm like, "What?" And at that point, I just started screaming. 343 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,920 At the hospital, I looked at the doctor, 344 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,760 [voice breaking] and I grabbed him and I said, 345 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:35,720 "Please, doctor, please, don't tell me that y'all lost my mom." 346 00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:38,960 That's when reality hit me. 347 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,680 She was gone forever. 348 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,640 [sobbing] 349 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,960 [sniffling] Oh, man. 350 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,680 Man. God. [crying] 351 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,240 [voice breaking] You know, and then you sit there and you-- 352 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,960 And I could feel... You know, I could feel her pain. 353 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,880 You know that the shot-- 354 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,080 And I'm sitting here wondering like, "What--?" 355 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,920 You know, when he pointed the gun at her, what was she thinking? 356 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,480 You know, was she scared? [sobs] 357 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,680 [man] Being a judge, I don't have any discoveries. 358 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,600 So, I want to at least review that and talk to her about it. 359 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,960 0102, State v. Sean, 360 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,760 it's also my duty to require the assistance of your attorney. 361 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,080 [man] I'm Kevin Crane, 362 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:06,040 I'm currently the presiding judge for the 13th Judicial Circuit 363 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,240 which is Boone and Calloway Counties. 364 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,720 Buchanan's charged by me with three counts of murder first, okay? Murder one is the only thing that, in Missouri, has the potential for life 365 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,280 without eligibility for probation parole. 366 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,920 It's also the only crime for which the death penalty is possible. 367 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:39,720 All right. 368 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,400 The family and friends that were at the residence 369 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,600 that night of the homicides were-- 370 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,880 They had fun together. They, you know, they were, uh... 371 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,480 William Jefferson was kind of the patriarchal guy. 372 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,480 He owned this place 373 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,160 and he was very welcoming for everybody to be there. 374 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,040 And everybody felt very comfortable there. 375 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:08,440 But I think there was this kind of a, uh, pall over the place 376 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,320 because as time went on, 377 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,320 the defendant became more and more, uh, controlling. 378 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,080 He vastly restricted Angie's ability to move, 379 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,600 like, to leave the room or to do anything, you know. 380 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,480 So it's almost two worlds under one roof as I recall. 381 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,040 You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say 382 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,280 can and will be used against you. You have the right to an attorney. 383 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,720 If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be hired to represent you. 384 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,400 -If you choose to make a statement... -[Buchanan coughs] 385 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,040 [Crane] You can stop doing so anytime until you have your attorney present. 386 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,200 -You understand what I said to you? -[Buchanan] Yeah, no. 387 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,920 -[Crane] Same thing he said to you. -Yeah. 388 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,640 -Tell me who else was in the house. -Me, my girl... 389 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,440 It was you, your kids' mom, two kids-- 390 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,640 Look, my kids' mom and the two kids was in the back. 391 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,560 Okay. 392 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:04,240 Now, my auntie, my Titi, William Jefferson, my stepfather, 393 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,480 he's there sitting on the couch faced back against wall. 394 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,600 I say, "Why are y'all surrounding me?" 395 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,720 When you got a funny feeling in your fucking soul 396 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,920 about something about to happen to you, 397 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,400 that's when I grabbed my shotgun. 398 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,440 I pointed the gun and wondered why they're trying to circle me. 399 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,760 I said, "Why the hell all y'all trying to build a circle around me?" 400 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:31,840 They ain't backed up. 401 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,400 Then they go and say, "No, we got the kids." 402 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,400 When you got the shotgun and waving it around, they're holding the kids up? Yeah. What the fuck is that about if y'all ain't up to nothing? 403 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,400 -[Crane] Your kids? -My fucking kids. 404 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,040 I'm still begging my auntie to explain to me what the fuck is happening. 405 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,760 She came at me to take the fucking gun from me. 406 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,640 Why are you trying to take my gun? 407 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,760 Then I yanked it back, and she was like, "This is your Titi.'" 408 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,200 And I-- Man, I lost it. 409 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,720 -That's when you pulled the trigger? -Yeah, man. 410 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,640 -Where did you hit her? -I don't even know, man. 411 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,240 I didn't shoot her in the face or nothing. 412 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,360 I think I just shot. I'm not gonna lie. 413 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,680 If I fucking get life for all this stupid shit, 414 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,040 maybe I shouldn't have pulled the trigger, 415 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,240 but at the time, man, don't nobody care about me. 416 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,520 [gunshot] 417 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,400 [Crane] All right. So, anyway, you encountered Mr. Jefferson 418 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,840 in the kitchen, in front of the refrigerator. Then what happened? Did you say anything to them? 419 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,960 No. I just looked at him, he looked at me. 420 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,800 I was like, "Man, why the fuck are y'all trying to kill me?" And he said, "Man, this is your stepfather." 421 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,400 -Then what happened? -And I pulled the trigger. 422 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,760 -[gunshot] -[Buchanan] I ran. 423 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,800 -Out the house. -Where did you hit him? 424 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,840 I don't know, man. I never-- I assumed somewhere. 425 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,160 -On the chest? -I don't know. 426 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,720 -You ran out the house? -Yeah. 427 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,160 All of a sudden, I see somebody moving to the right, 428 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,000 and I see it's my kids' mother. 429 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,720 -The gun was out of bullets. -[Crane] And then what happened? 430 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,920 Then I went in my back pockets and loaded the gun back up. 431 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,680 -Who was she with then? -My kids. 432 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,160 -Okay. And your kids? -Yeah. 433 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,160 -She was running for real. -You had to run up to catch up to her? 434 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,320 Yeah, she stopped. I was like, "Come here, Angie!" 435 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,720 I said, "Angie! Angie!" 436 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,640 You know, she stopped. You know, I get to her. 437 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:19,399 I'm, uh, I'm asking her, "Why all of a sudden..." 438 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,800 You know, "Why all of a sudden--?" 439 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,080 You know, "Why the fuck are y'all trying to take my life?" 440 00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,719 She got these kids. "Don't you be pointing a gun over." 441 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,360 They're my daughters, I can't-- 442 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,440 You know, all of a sudden, I just lost it for her 443 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,880 for the simple fact that she tried to set me up several times. 444 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,440 [Crane] Did you shoot her in the face? Where did you--? 445 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,440 It had to be somewhere, man. I don't... Man, what I went through-- 446 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,760 -Up or down? -I don't know, it was up. 447 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,640 You know, it was away from my daughter, that's all I know. 448 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,000 How's she holding the baby? 449 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,040 She holding the baby like this when I shot. 450 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,200 -On that side? -Yeah. 451 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,960 [indistinct chatter] 452 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,120 [Crane] I don't question he was under the influence 453 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,240 of-- of a controlled substance. 454 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,680 But that's not a defense. 455 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,080 You know, you can't go, "Well, yeah, I drank a fifth of whisky 456 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,320 and I don't remember killing the people." 457 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,720 It's not a defense. So that was off the table. 458 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,800 So I'm trying to charge this case, and I'm looking at, 459 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,920 is there deliberation prior to killing somebody? 460 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,880 "Cool reflection" on the matter of killing another person, no matter how brief, 461 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,360 okay, is deliberation. 462 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,600 Well, in this case, we had three victims, all right? 463 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,440 In this case, we had each one of the victim shot by the defendant 464 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,400 with a pump-shotgun. 465 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,760 [Crane] Let me just go over a couple things. 466 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,160 Number one, now after you shot your aunt, 467 00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:55,400 did you work the pump on the shotgun immediately? 468 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,280 Yeah. 'Cause I didn't know what was in front of me. 469 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,880 [Crane] Not only do you have to load and reload the weapon 470 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,240 to accomplish these three murders in the first degree, 471 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:13,040 um, he had to rack that action every time he fired a shot. 472 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,880 And then when you shot Mr. Jefferson, did you work the pump on the shotgun? 473 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,800 No, I ran outside. But then I worked it when I got to the back. 474 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,360 -Okay. -What the hell was that about? 475 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,280 So then you got your ammo out your pocket 476 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,160 -and you reloaded your shotgun. -Exactly. 477 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:28,560 Did you have to jack the action 478 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,560 -to get the tube into the chamber? -Yeah, yeah, you have to. 479 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,920 That was one of the components of-- of, uh, how I demonstrated to the jury 480 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,000 that he "deliberated" on each of the three victims that he killed. 481 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,280 Honestly, man, it was like everybody in that house, man, 482 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,520 if I could have caught them all, I think I would have got them all. 483 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,120 And I ain't playing, man. 484 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,960 And I'm serious, because they all came together. 485 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,560 You still believe you didn't effectively represent... 486 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,680 [Crane] There's gotta be some responsibility on the individual here. 487 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,080 You know, I mean, it starts with the individual. 488 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,520 [stammers] It's-- You don't blame the drug, 489 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,280 you don't blame the gun, you blame the individual, yeah. 490 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:17,440 [McTye] It's been 17 years as of last November and it's still fresh, 491 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,480 like it just happened yesterday for some of us, so... 492 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,760 This picture here, 493 00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:37,840 Deandra and his mom and Juanita are standing by each other, 494 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,200 talking to each other. 495 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,360 This is actually June 3rd, 1992, 496 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:49,080 the day that, uh, my grandfather, William Jefferson, 497 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,880 married Deandra's mother, Lydia Jefferson. 498 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,320 Deandra was, um, the groomsman in the wedding. 499 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,400 That's my grandfather, William Jefferson, 500 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:03,720 Deandra's stepfather, 501 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,480 and one of the people that he murdered that night. 502 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,920 My grandfather died a hero that night. 503 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,120 He was not gonna let Dre do nothing to nobody else in the house... 504 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,360 because that's his house, that was his domain. 505 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,200 My grandfather just... 506 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,600 you know, treated him like a son. 507 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:51,240 And Dre returned the favor by putting a bullet in his heart. 508 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,240 Oh, this is Angie with Deandra's two sons. 509 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,800 [clicks tongue] By other women, so... [clicks tongue] 510 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,960 You know, she was pretty tolerant of Deandra. 511 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:14,880 Once I started talking to Angie, 512 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:19,120 that's when I knew what was really going on between them, 513 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,480 and the abuse that took place. 514 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,440 [Buchanan] There was a little domestic abuse. 515 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,320 I ended shaking her up a little bit 516 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,120 because she wouldn't tell me exactly what I thought I should hear. 517 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,120 [McTye] No, it wasn't just a shake. 518 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,040 I think he chooses to describe it like that 519 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,240 because he doesn't wanna seem like the bad guy 520 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,840 when, clearly, he is the bad guy. 521 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,440 Dre had been arrested for domestic violence against Angie. 522 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,840 Um, and, basically, the incident 523 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,000 was that Angela was pregnant with her first child, 524 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,520 and he, um, ran out to the street after her 525 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,800 and started hitting her with a baseball bat. 526 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,560 He came at her with a weapon. 527 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:24,640 He'd been so physically violent to her in the past 528 00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:28,480 that the court had them separated, you know, like... 529 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,880 The court had made it ordered that they not be near each other 530 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,080 because of how bad he did Angela. 531 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,320 At the time of Angie's death, 532 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,000 Dre was not even supposed to be in contact with Angie. 533 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:45,640 But that's how much control he had over Angie's mental state 534 00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:48,240 and how she moved, um... 535 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,080 But, by law, they weren't even supposed to be in contact with each other. 536 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,880 And, like, she was so afraid of him 537 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,040 that even though he did all that to her and the police separated them, 538 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,440 she still came back. 539 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,320 You know, she still went back after he did that to her. [Buchanan] I'm still struggling trying to figure out why this happened. 540 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,720 Like how the fuck did I allow myself to do this? 541 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,200 [McTye] Angie, he just cold-bloodedly murdered her, period. 542 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,160 It was definitely premeditated. 543 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,960 It may not have went how he had planned it, 544 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,320 but he definitely intended to kill Angie, period. 545 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,520 Angie could have escaped that night. 546 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,320 But Dre called her back. 547 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,040 She just froze up and went to him and that's when he shot her in the neck 548 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,440 while she was holding the kids, you know. 549 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,840 She's holding a 5-month-old baby 550 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,200 and you shoot her in the neck like she's a piece of trash. 551 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,880 He took the natural path of an abuser. Deandra did, you know. 552 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,240 He started out with the gifts and the spoiling her, 553 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,320 and taking her on trips, and, you know. 554 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,760 He went from that to "you gotta live with me," 555 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,200 to "you can't leave the house unless I say so," 556 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,760 to "you can't hang out with your family, 557 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,120 you can't be around your friends," to killing her. 558 00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:34,480 And it was not drugs that night. 559 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,560 I don't care what he says about him being high off of any drug that night. 560 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,480 I saw Dre with my own two eyes ten minutes before this happened. 561 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,640 I know he was not high. 562 00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:53,240 I know he was not induced into some type of psychosis 563 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,760 because of drug use. 564 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,720 That's a false, patented lie that he likes to tell. 565 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,640 The other people that were there that night were really collateral damage, 566 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,880 to what he intended to do to Angie anyways, you know? 567 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:17,840 And he had no reason to kill Juanita. 568 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,840 He definitely had no reason to kill my grandfather. 569 00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:41,560 [exhales] Man, the most important thing I can tell them is I'm sorry, man. 570 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:43,800 Seriously, I'm sorry. 571 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,800 And... [clicks tongue] 572 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:53,600 I continue to make sure that I do what I need to do to better myself 573 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,600 so that I will never be that person again. 574 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,560 Regardless if they ever know that, regardless of who knows that. 575 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,400 I know that I'm not that same person. I know that for a fact. 576 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,440 [Buchanan] I'm still struggling trying to figure out why this happened. 577 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,040 Over these years, I wrestle, 578 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,600 like, how the fuck did I allow myself to do this? 579 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,280 How did I allow myself to shoot my aunt, my girl, and my stepfather? 580 00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:33,200 Shoot my girl while she holding my daughter? 581 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,040 I do believe that Deandra was planning to murder Angie, yes. 582 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,320 The other people that were there that night were really collateral damage 583 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,960 to what he intended to do to Angie anyways. I don't-- No. No. 584 00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:59,080 Because if that was the case, I could have been done that. 585 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,400 Shit, if I wanted to kill her, I could have been killed her. 586 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:10,480 And the only thing I keep concluding is, this chemical that I got my hands on, 587 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,600 that I wasn't aware of, caused me to react like this. 588 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,000 And when you compile that with my lifestyle, 589 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,360 way before I even met Angela-- 590 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,320 'Cause see, like I said, I was violent before I even met her. 591 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,720 I been involved in all kind of violence 592 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,960 where I done seen people lose their life. 593 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,720 I mean, it's nothing to be proud of now I think back on it. 594 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,680 But back then, we thought that was the thing to do. 595 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,440 I'm gonna react a certain way based on the way I've been living and conditioned. 596 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,360 "Cool reflection" on the matter of killing another person, 597 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,000 no matter how brief is deliberation, okay? 598 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,680 I demonstrated to the jury that he deliberated 599 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,400 on each of the three victims that he killed. 600 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,680 This wasn't no planned situation. 601 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,240 I didn't sit back and calculate and say, "Okay, this is what I'm fittin' to do." 602 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,080 I didn't say I'm fittin' to go kill my girlfriend. 603 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,960 I didn't say I was fittin' to go kill my auntie. 604 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,960 I didn't say I was fittin' to kill my stepfather. 605 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,440 Not one time did I sit back and say, "This is what I'm fittin' to do today." 606 00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:15,080 No. Hell no. 607 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,040 According to everything, including myself, and everybody that was there that night, 608 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,200 I just flipped out. 609 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,080 That wasn't no premeditated, planned-out situation. 610 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,480 What I truly believed that night was the contributing factor was that door, 611 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,240 and somebody coming into that house, 612 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,520 and them not opening up that bedroom door to let me see who was in there. 613 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,760 I truly believe that's what contributed to me reacting the way I did that night. 614 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,280 [McTye] No, it wasn't just a shake. 615 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,360 Dre ran out to the street after her 616 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,440 and started hitting her with a baseball bat. 617 00:47:55,720 --> 00:48:01,560 Angela showed me where Deandra had beat her with a wire hanger. 618 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,640 And she showed me welts from the top of her neck, 619 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:13,040 to her knees, where he just whooped her and whooped her. 620 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,000 Hold on, stop that for a minute. 621 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,800 That's a... Man-- 622 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,440 [chuckles] 623 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,520 Let me tell you something, man. 624 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,320 I ain't never whopped her with no clothes hanger. 625 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,920 This is what really be kind of frustrating me, not to say, "Fuck them all." 626 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,480 And I-- That type of stuff there 627 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,640 is the type of shit that be kinda, like, getting me upset. 628 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,480 Because even to this day, you still would put that out there 629 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,560 like I used a clothes hanger to whoop her. 630 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,560 Like I'm some type of gorilla pimping or some shit. 631 00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:50,880 And see, this is the thing be kinda getting me a little... 632 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,520 I'm not going to say upset 'cause I understand what I done. 633 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:55,720 But it gets... 634 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,640 I'm serious, it gets real struggling, because, usually, I'm like-- 635 00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:06,160 Eighteen years, I've been doing, you know, everything I can to make amends, 636 00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:07,840 and then when you hear stuff like that, 637 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,640 that's what really be getting me kind of disturbed, 638 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:16,080 when you would add some falsehood to tell your side of a story 639 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,720 to try to continue to put me in a negative light. 640 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,040 And I'm being honest with you. 641 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,600 It be kind of frustrating me for real. 642 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,040 That regardless to what they say, how they say it, 643 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,960 or how they believe, or what they feel, 644 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,640 I'm fittin' to attack this case, and a lot of them gonna be upset. 645 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,080 They can bombard the court house, they can contact the prosecutors. 646 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:38,800 I wouldn't even care. 647 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,760 For that-- For that type of stuff there lets me know 648 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,760 after 18 years, who's to say I could ever trust them? 649 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,600 I'm serious. And this is how I have to think. 650 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,720 Based on what I just heard, who's to say that when I get out of here, 651 00:49:54,800 --> 00:50:00,720 I can honestly say I can be safe in an environment where they at? 652 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,680 No, I can't do it.