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[crowd cheering wildly]
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Crowd: [chanting]
Tina! Tina! Tina!
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- Well, hi, everybody!
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[crowd cheering]
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Come on, give it to me.
I said hi, everybody!
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[wild cheering]
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Let me hear you say "ow"!
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Crowd: Ow!
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["Ask Me How I Feel" playing]
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[upbeat pop-rock song]
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♪ ♪
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- ♪ We're all waiting
in the storm ♪
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♪ Ask me how I feel ♪
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♪ When things are going wrong ♪
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♪ Ask me how I feel ♪
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♪ The night is awful cold ♪
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♪ Ask me how I feel ♪
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♪ You're much too loose
to hold ♪
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♪ Ask me how I feel ♪
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♪ You don't treat me tender ♪
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♪ No matter what I do ♪
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♪ I'm the great pretender ♪
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♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh ♪
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♪ Waiting in the storm ♪
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♪ Ask me how I feel ♪
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♪ Everything's going wrong ♪
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♪ You gotta ask me how I feel ♪
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- ♪ The night is awful cold ♪
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- ♪ Ask me how I feel ♪
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[fading] ♪ You know you're
much too loose to hold ♪
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♪ Come on, and ask me
how I feel ♪
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[soft dreamy music]
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♪ ♪
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- I wondered sometimes
if anyone has approached you
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to do the story of your life,
which is indeed fantastic.
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- [chuckles]
Yes.
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But I don't want to play
the part.
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I've done it.
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- Who else could play the part
of Tina Turner?
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- We'll find someone.
[both laugh]
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I just really don't want
to play the part,
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you know what I mean?
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No, you don't know
what I mean,
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'cause you'd have to know me
to know.
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It was just so unlike me,
my life.
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But I don't want anyone
to know about it, I mean...
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- You mean it'd be too painful
or too...
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- Ah, it wasn't...
wasn't a good life.
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It was in some areas,
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but the goodness
did not balance the bad.
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So it's like
not wanting to be reminded.
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You don't like to pull out
old clothes, you know?
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It's like, old memories,
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you want to just leave that
in the past and done with
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and all the things
you don't really want to say,
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but there comes a time
when you do have to say it.
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♪ ♪
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- This is interview one,
take one.
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[clapboard clacks]
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- In 1981, you did
this interview
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with "People" magazine,
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where for the first time,
really,
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you spoke openly
about your past with Ike.
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- Yeah.
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- And I'm curious
if you can remember at all
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any of the thoughts you had
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around the decision
to be public about that.
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- About my past?
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- About your past,
but also, I guess,
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about the abuse specifically.
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- Yeah, that was
quite nerve-racking.
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Actually, I called my psychic,
and I said,
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"What's gonna happen?"
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'Cause I was
really apprehensive
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about giving the story away
because it was telling.
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It was really telling.
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And she said, "No, Tina.
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"It's going to do
just the opposite.
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It's gonna break everything
wide open."
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- In the early '80s,
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being in "People" magazine was
the equivalent of going viral.
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We had 30 million readers.
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And if somebody wanted
to reach a lot of people,
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there was really
no bigger place to go
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than "People" magazine.
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I was the music editor
of "People" magazine
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for many years,
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and this is the December 7,
1981 issue,
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when Tina decided
to tell her story.
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And it was the first time
she told the story in public
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to a journalist.
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So this is the story.
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I reported it and wrote it
for "People" magazine.
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This is the picture of Tina.
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"Tina Turner remains
rock's original Jagger,
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"a primitive force who,
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"glittering in sequins
and a gold-chain miniskirt,
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"typically assaults the stage
in mid-scream
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"with both legs pumping,
hips grinding,
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"long mane whirling,
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"and her mouth wrapped around
some of the sexiest sounds
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"ever set to music.
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"More than five years
have passed
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"since Tina's bitter break
with Ike Turner,
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"her longtime husband,
sideman,
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"and music collaborator
on such classics
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"as 'Proud Mary'
and 'Come Together. '
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"Only now is Tina
able to discuss
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"what she claims were
the harrowing events
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leading up to their split."
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[dramatic music]
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- I lived 16 years with a man
that I knew
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there was no way
I could ever be happy with,
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but I felt
that I had to stay there.
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- Mm-hmm.
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- You have to believe me now
when I tell you something.
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My ex-husband was
a physically violent man.
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I went through basic torture.
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- Torture?
You would call it torture?
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- To me, it was.
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A lot of people don't know,
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and your magazine
will probably be the first
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to make it publicly known.
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I was living a life of death.
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I didn't exist...
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but I survived it.
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And when I walked out,
I walked.
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And I didn't look back.
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♪ ♪
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- People choose
to tell their story
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for lots of different reasons.
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I think she told me so much
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because she wanted
to just tell it
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and then forget it.
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It didn't quite work out
that way,
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because now, that story is
a great mark of her life.
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♪ ♪
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- Ladies and gentlemen,
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you've seen them live
from coast to coast.
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Now you're about to see them
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all together
for the very first time
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on national television.
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"Hollywood a Go Go" presents
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the fantastic
Ike & Tina Turner Revue!
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[cheers and applause]
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["Sweet Soul Music" playing]
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[upbeat '60s rock]
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♪ ♪
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- When I was a teenager
back in the '60s,
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I knew of their record
that they had out,
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but I had never seen them.
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And then they came on TV,
and I saw her dancing,
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and that's all I could look at.
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I was just so amazed
at this woman.
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♪ ♪
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- I remember standing there
watching her
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and saying, "Whatever that is,
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I want some of that."
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I got the spirit.
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It's no different
than being in a church
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where you are moved
and stirred
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to the point where you can
feel it inside yourself.
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- ♪ Do you like good music? ♪
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♪ Sweet soul music ♪
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♪ Long as it's swinging ♪
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♪ Yeah ♪
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♪ Yeah ♪
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♪ Get out here
on the floor, y'all ♪
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♪ Dancing to a go-go ♪
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♪ And dancing to the music ♪
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♪ Yeah ♪
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♪ Yeah ♪
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♪ Spotlight is on me, y'all ♪
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♪ And I'm having
a ball, y'all ♪
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- Back then, you had
the whole Motown revue.
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You had Diana Ross,
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Mary Wells.
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- The Temptations
in these Italian suits,
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and we're putting forth
an image of sophistication.
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- And they were all...
[hums softly]
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That kind of stuff,
and Tina was more, "Yeah!"
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That kind of stuff.
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- It's wild.
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It's your sensuality,
your sexuality,
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and it's in your face.
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- ♪ Dancing to a go-go
and dancing to the music ♪
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- Did you ever study dancing?
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- No.
- No?
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And what about music?
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You know, singing?
- No, no music at all.
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Everything is just natural
for me.
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I'm a performer, and I sing,
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and Ike does the managing
and producing.
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- It was Ike's band.
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But he knew that in order to be
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a number one, he needed Tina,
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'cause Tina was
the shining star.
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♪ ♪
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[cheers and applause]
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[indistinct chatter]
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- ♪ Oh ♪
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♪ Box top ♪
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- ♪ Let's rock ♪
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♪ Oh, let's rock ♪
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- ♪ Bet bop ♪
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- ♪ Oh, box top ♪
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[guitar solo]
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- ♪ He ♪
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♪ Gave ♪
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♪ Me a mother ♪
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♪ And he gave me ♪
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♪ A father, too ♪
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♪ He gave ♪
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♪ Yes, gave me everything ♪
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♪ And then he gave ♪
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♪ He gave me you ♪
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♪ He gave ♪
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♪ He gave ♪
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♪ Yes, gave me everything ♪
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- He was like her hero.
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Like a big brother.
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And he seen her
like a little sister.
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That relationship
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was very beautiful.
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It really was.
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- ♪ ...me strength
to love with ♪
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I wasn't thinking of,
"I'll go to St. Louis,
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and I'll start singing,
and I'll be a star."
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I was young, naive,
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just a country girl,
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and everything just opened up
to me.
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♪ And most of all ♪
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♪ He gave me you ♪
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- Tina, you started
your musical career
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in a church choir
in your hometown.
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Do you consider
your musical roots
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to be Black gospel?
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- Oh, yes.
Certainly.
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Black gospel, blues.
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B.B. King's music was
our radio during that time.
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- Mm-hmm. What kind of songs
were you singing
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as a member
of the church choir?
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- [laughs]
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Well, we call them...
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well, it was a Baptist church,
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and they were just
spiritual songs.
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Songs about, you know, love
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and giving and...
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and doing
all of the right things
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that make life good.
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Those were good times,
you know,
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to remember
all of the church singing
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and the choir and all.
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When you're in the South,
there's nothing happening,
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except the church, the piano,
the preacher.
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During that time,
I didn't know
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about anywhere else.
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So seeing Lucille Ball
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and Loretta Young
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and all the beautiful ladies
of Hollywood,
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they were a role model
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for a performer.
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But I didn't think that I would
actually achieve that,
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because first, I wasn't pretty,
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and I didn't have the clothes,
I didn't have the means.
266
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[soft music]
267
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I remember the first
"Vogue" magazine that I saw,
268
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and I remember
my first French poster...
269
00:15:08,408 --> 00:15:10,243
Champs-Elysées,
270
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the Eiffel Tower,
271
00:15:12,703 --> 00:15:15,248
and the very, very
French woman.
272
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I was like,
"Ah, that's what I want.
273
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The world.
That's where I want to go."
274
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♪ ♪
275
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- I got the impression
from her,
276
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she always felt
a little bit out of time
277
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or a little bit out of place.
278
00:15:31,139 --> 00:15:33,808
I didn't think she ever felt
like people understood her
279
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or really liked her
for who she was,
280
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and the talent she had,
281
00:15:37,854 --> 00:15:39,522
she finally learned
that she had,
282
00:15:39,605 --> 00:15:42,442
can win you a lot of people
who recognize who you are
283
00:15:42,525 --> 00:15:45,695
and will become
like your real family...
284
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or try to.
285
00:15:48,322 --> 00:15:52,660
- Ike, first of all, if we can
kind of go back a long way
286
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to when you were a young man.
287
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A lot of people credit you
288
00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,458
with doing the first ever
rock and roll record,
289
00:15:58,541 --> 00:15:59,542
"Rocket 88."
290
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- Yeah, that was in 1951.
291
00:16:01,252 --> 00:16:03,629
- Yeah.
How did that thing happen?
292
00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,174
- Well, I live in Clarksdale,
Mississippi,
293
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which is actually 61 miles
from Memphis,
294
00:16:09,302 --> 00:16:11,387
and B.B. King, my mother,
295
00:16:11,512 --> 00:16:13,264
she practically raised him,
you know,
296
00:16:13,306 --> 00:16:14,724
and one night,
we was coming from
297
00:16:14,807 --> 00:16:16,184
Chambers, Mississippi,
playing,
298
00:16:16,267 --> 00:16:18,352
and B.B., I asked him, I said,
"Man, can we play a song?"
299
00:16:18,436 --> 00:16:19,604
And he said, "Yeah."
300
00:16:19,687 --> 00:16:21,314
So he let my band play
one number.
301
00:16:21,397 --> 00:16:23,983
So, anyway, he said, "Man,
you guys should be recording."
302
00:16:24,066 --> 00:16:25,359
And, man, we didn't have
any material,
303
00:16:25,443 --> 00:16:27,445
so on the way up, we decided
to write this song,
304
00:16:27,528 --> 00:16:30,364
and that's when I wrote
the song "Rocket 88," you know.
305
00:16:30,448 --> 00:16:31,699
- ♪ You women have heard
of jalopies ♪
306
00:16:31,782 --> 00:16:33,367
♪ You've heard the noise
they make ♪
307
00:16:33,451 --> 00:16:36,496
♪ But let me introduce
my new Rocket 88 ♪
308
00:16:36,704 --> 00:16:38,247
♪ Yes, it's great ♪
309
00:16:38,331 --> 00:16:39,832
♪ Just won't wait ♪
310
00:16:39,916 --> 00:16:42,460
♪ Everybody likes
my Rocket 88 ♪
311
00:16:42,543 --> 00:16:44,462
♪ Baby, we'll ride in style ♪
312
00:16:44,545 --> 00:16:46,881
♪ Moving all along ♪
313
00:16:48,674 --> 00:16:50,885
- Ike Turner is
a very important part
314
00:16:50,968 --> 00:16:52,553
of R&B history.
315
00:16:52,637 --> 00:16:54,931
Everybody relied on him
'cause he really knew music
316
00:16:55,014 --> 00:16:56,682
and he scored a real hit record
317
00:16:56,766 --> 00:16:59,227
with a song in 1951
called "Rocket 88."
318
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People say it's the first
rock and roll record.
319
00:17:01,938 --> 00:17:03,814
And when it comes out,
Chess has credited it
320
00:17:03,898 --> 00:17:06,526
to Jackie Brenston
& His Delta Cats.
321
00:17:06,609 --> 00:17:08,402
Ike Turner did that song,
you know?
322
00:17:08,486 --> 00:17:09,904
He made everything
about it happen,
323
00:17:09,987 --> 00:17:11,864
and it's credited to one
of his saxophone players.
324
00:17:11,948 --> 00:17:14,242
Imagine how he feels
about this.
325
00:17:14,367 --> 00:17:16,369
And I think that's the story
of his career.
326
00:17:16,494 --> 00:17:18,412
I think he became paranoid
about that.
327
00:17:18,496 --> 00:17:20,748
He said, "People were always
trying to rip me off."
328
00:17:20,915 --> 00:17:23,251
- He's always obsessed
on that.
329
00:17:23,417 --> 00:17:24,460
"Everybody leaves me.
330
00:17:24,544 --> 00:17:26,796
"I make 'em, you know, popular
331
00:17:26,879 --> 00:17:29,298
"and get a hit record
and everything on them,
332
00:17:29,382 --> 00:17:30,633
and they all leave me."
333
00:17:33,761 --> 00:17:36,931
- Ike had a problem
of writing songs for people,
334
00:17:37,014 --> 00:17:38,849
and they would leave,
335
00:17:38,933 --> 00:17:41,269
and I promised him
that I wouldn't leave him.
336
00:17:43,020 --> 00:17:45,022
In those days,
a promise is a promise.
337
00:17:58,995 --> 00:18:03,457
- ♪ Oh ♪
338
00:18:07,878 --> 00:18:11,382
♪ There's something
on my mind ♪
339
00:18:12,258 --> 00:18:15,636
♪ Won't somebody please ♪
340
00:18:16,220 --> 00:18:20,057
♪ Please tell me
what's wrong? ♪
341
00:18:21,058 --> 00:18:22,810
- ♪ You're just a fool ♪
342
00:18:22,893 --> 00:18:25,021
♪ You know you're in love ♪
- ♪ What's to say? ♪
343
00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:26,731
- ♪ You've got to face it
to live in this world ♪
344
00:18:26,814 --> 00:18:28,482
- ♪ Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey ♪
345
00:18:28,566 --> 00:18:30,067
- ♪ You take the good
along with the bad ♪
346
00:18:30,151 --> 00:18:32,069
- ♪ Yeah, hey, hey ♪
347
00:18:32,153 --> 00:18:34,655
- ♪ Sometimes you're happy,
and sometimes you're sad ♪
348
00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:36,699
- ♪ One more time ♪
- ♪ You know you love him ♪
349
00:18:36,782 --> 00:18:38,492
♪ You can't understand ♪
350
00:18:38,576 --> 00:18:41,370
♪ Why he treats you like he do
when he's such a good man ♪
351
00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:42,622
- ♪ Listen... ♪
352
00:18:42,705 --> 00:18:43,914
I finished school,
353
00:18:43,998 --> 00:18:45,541
and I went
in the recording studio,
354
00:18:45,625 --> 00:18:46,959
and I did a demo,
355
00:18:47,043 --> 00:18:48,961
and that's when
the hit record came.
356
00:18:49,754 --> 00:18:51,047
♪ Oh, now ♪
357
00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:52,632
♪ I must be a fool ♪
358
00:18:53,174 --> 00:18:55,551
♪ 'Cause I'll do anything
he wants me to do ♪
359
00:18:55,635 --> 00:18:56,844
♪ Now tell me, how come ♪
360
00:18:56,927 --> 00:18:59,096
- ♪ You're just a fool,
you know you're in love ♪
361
00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:00,556
- ♪ Now one more time ♪
362
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,266
- ♪ You've got to face it
to live in this world ♪
363
00:19:02,350 --> 00:19:04,518
- ♪ Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey ♪
364
00:19:04,602 --> 00:19:05,895
Ike came in, and he said,
365
00:19:05,978 --> 00:19:08,230
"You know, the people
in New York are very excited."
366
00:19:08,314 --> 00:19:10,566
We got a hit record.
He was very excited, you know.
367
00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:12,568
And then there was...
contracts started coming in.
368
00:19:12,652 --> 00:19:16,197
[solemn music]
369
00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,075
I was very ignorant
to show business.
370
00:19:19,283 --> 00:19:21,494
I didn't have any idea
what it was about.
371
00:19:21,702 --> 00:19:24,205
♪ ♪
372
00:19:24,288 --> 00:19:26,123
- She really was young.
373
00:19:27,667 --> 00:19:30,252
She never had no ambition
374
00:19:30,336 --> 00:19:32,338
to be some kind of superstar,
375
00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:35,925
but when she sang,
she just had it.
376
00:19:36,967 --> 00:19:39,512
And Ike exploited it.
377
00:19:40,012 --> 00:19:42,723
He had to make sure
he's gonna get his this time,
378
00:19:42,807 --> 00:19:45,226
so he'd make sure
that his name is on it.
379
00:19:45,351 --> 00:19:47,353
- And that's when he put
the whole show together,
380
00:19:47,436 --> 00:19:48,813
the Ike & Tina Turner Revue
381
00:19:48,896 --> 00:19:50,898
and gave her the name
Tina Turner.
382
00:20:02,326 --> 00:20:03,744
- "Sheena:
Queen of the Jungle,"
383
00:20:03,828 --> 00:20:05,705
it was a TV series.
384
00:20:05,871 --> 00:20:08,499
Tina and Sheena, I guess
it just sounded close to him,
385
00:20:08,582 --> 00:20:11,460
and it sounded good,
Ike & Tina Revue,
386
00:20:11,544 --> 00:20:13,337
as a whole entity.
387
00:20:13,671 --> 00:20:15,756
So he changed it.
Didn't even ask her.
388
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,675
She didn't know
anything about it.
389
00:20:18,634 --> 00:20:23,055
♪ ♪
390
00:20:25,391 --> 00:20:27,768
- Tina was the gold mine.
He knew that.
391
00:20:29,812 --> 00:20:32,398
He created
this Frankenstein thing,
392
00:20:32,481 --> 00:20:34,358
and he had to control it.
393
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,779
So he had to change that thing
from being my little sister...
394
00:20:38,863 --> 00:20:41,240
"No, no, you got to be
my wife now."
395
00:20:41,323 --> 00:20:42,491
Fwoom.
396
00:20:42,658 --> 00:20:47,788
♪ ♪
397
00:22:32,977 --> 00:22:35,396
- You'd never know
from one minute to the next.
398
00:22:35,479 --> 00:22:36,647
Ike could be having
a good time,
399
00:22:36,730 --> 00:22:38,440
and everybody was having
a good time,
400
00:22:38,524 --> 00:22:40,192
and it could just flip
in a second.
401
00:22:40,276 --> 00:22:42,236
And I think with women,
402
00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:44,697
I think, you know, he figured
he had the upper hand.
403
00:22:45,364 --> 00:22:47,366
And especially, like,
with Tina, you know,
404
00:22:47,449 --> 00:22:48,617
that was, like...
405
00:22:49,785 --> 00:22:52,538
I think,
him instilling in her,
406
00:22:52,788 --> 00:22:54,665
"You better be good,
or, you know,
407
00:22:54,748 --> 00:22:56,542
I'm gonna beat the shit
out of you."
408
00:22:56,750 --> 00:22:59,879
And did on many occasions,
you know, I mean,
409
00:22:59,962 --> 00:23:01,881
and for no reason
a lot of times.
410
00:23:01,964 --> 00:23:04,008
It was just...
411
00:23:04,633 --> 00:23:05,926
I really don't know.
412
00:23:06,010 --> 00:23:08,137
I don't think he knows
a lot of the time.
413
00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:12,099
♪ ♪
414
00:23:12,516 --> 00:23:14,685
- I felt obligated
to stay there,
415
00:23:14,768 --> 00:23:16,228
and I was afraid.
416
00:23:16,478 --> 00:23:18,314
And I stayed.
That is just how it was.
417
00:23:18,397 --> 00:23:20,941
I felt very loyal to Ike,
and I didn't want to hurt him.
418
00:23:21,025 --> 00:23:22,860
I mean, sometimes,
like, after he beat me up,
419
00:23:22,943 --> 00:23:24,153
I'd end up feeling sorry
for him.
420
00:23:24,236 --> 00:23:25,487
And, "Why am I feeling sorry?"
421
00:23:25,571 --> 00:23:27,114
I'm sitting here
all bruised and torn,
422
00:23:27,197 --> 00:23:28,782
and all of a sudden,
I'm feeling sorry for him.
423
00:23:28,866 --> 00:23:30,534
You know, little things
like that.
424
00:23:31,452 --> 00:23:33,370
I was 23 years old
or something, you know.
425
00:23:33,454 --> 00:23:34,955
I mean, early 20s.
426
00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:36,665
I was just all...
how do you call it
427
00:23:36,749 --> 00:23:38,626
when someone brainwashes you,
I guess?
428
00:23:38,709 --> 00:23:40,628
- Brainwashed.
- Maybe I was brainwashed.
429
00:23:40,711 --> 00:23:43,047
Yeah. I was afraid of him.
[pounds table]
430
00:23:43,130 --> 00:23:46,300
And I cared
what happened to him,
431
00:23:46,383 --> 00:23:48,844
and I knew that if I left,
there was no one to sing.
432
00:23:48,928 --> 00:23:52,306
So I was caught up in guilt
and fear.
433
00:23:52,389 --> 00:23:54,350
Yeah, those are
the two worst qualities,
434
00:23:54,433 --> 00:23:56,352
I think, for a young girl
to be caught up into.
435
00:23:56,894 --> 00:24:01,231
♪ ♪
436
00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:03,651
[cheers and applause]
437
00:24:03,734 --> 00:24:06,904
- And now let's go
with Ike and Tina Turner!
438
00:24:06,987 --> 00:24:09,990
[high-energy rock music]
439
00:24:10,282 --> 00:24:14,495
♪ ♪
440
00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:19,333
- ♪ And listen
while I talk to you ♪
441
00:24:20,167 --> 00:24:21,961
♪ I tell you
what I'm gonna do ♪
442
00:24:22,753 --> 00:24:24,838
♪ There's a new dance
that's going around ♪
443
00:24:25,089 --> 00:24:27,424
♪ I want to tell you
what they're putting down ♪
444
00:24:27,883 --> 00:24:30,010
♪ Just move your body
all around ♪
445
00:24:30,177 --> 00:24:31,178
♪ Shake ♪
446
00:24:31,261 --> 00:24:33,055
♪ Aw, baby... ♪
447
00:24:33,138 --> 00:24:34,473
- In those early days,
448
00:24:34,556 --> 00:24:36,350
you'd play
three shows a night.
449
00:24:36,475 --> 00:24:39,103
Two shows this place,
two shows that place,
450
00:24:39,186 --> 00:24:41,480
and two shows
at the after-hours place.
451
00:24:41,563 --> 00:24:43,232
It was hard work.
452
00:24:43,983 --> 00:24:47,987
- I can remember working
as many as four shows a night,
453
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:50,864
and every night
and every show...
454
00:24:50,948 --> 00:24:53,534
was packed, was packed.
455
00:24:53,659 --> 00:24:54,994
- Right now
I'm gonna tell you
456
00:24:55,077 --> 00:24:56,245
a little something
about my man.
457
00:24:56,328 --> 00:24:57,871
["My Man, He's a Lovin' Man"]
458
00:24:57,955 --> 00:24:59,873
[cheers and applause]
459
00:24:59,957 --> 00:25:00,916
♪ Ha ♪
460
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,292
♪ My man... ♪
461
00:25:03,961 --> 00:25:06,213
- He rehearsed constantly.
462
00:25:06,296 --> 00:25:08,841
Even sometimes we'd be
driving to the next show,
463
00:25:08,924 --> 00:25:10,259
he'd be playing the guitar
in the back
464
00:25:10,342 --> 00:25:11,552
and having Tina sing.
465
00:25:11,635 --> 00:25:13,053
I mean, it was 24-7.
466
00:25:13,846 --> 00:25:15,264
- The show has to be perfect.
467
00:25:15,347 --> 00:25:17,141
Every single part of it
has to be perfect.
468
00:25:17,224 --> 00:25:19,518
He was one of those guys
who would turn around onstage
469
00:25:19,601 --> 00:25:21,562
and point at somebody,
and they know
470
00:25:21,645 --> 00:25:24,064
they're getting a $10 fine
'cause they just blew a note.
471
00:25:24,982 --> 00:25:26,817
- ♪ He's a one-woman man ♪
472
00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:28,152
♪ And my man... ♪
473
00:25:28,235 --> 00:25:30,029
- She didn't have
the glam team,
474
00:25:30,112 --> 00:25:31,655
someone doing the hair
and the makeup
475
00:25:31,739 --> 00:25:33,365
and the stylist
getting the wardrobe.
476
00:25:33,449 --> 00:25:35,909
They did it all themselves.
477
00:25:36,076 --> 00:25:37,703
- ♪ My man ♪
- ♪ Your man ♪
478
00:25:37,786 --> 00:25:39,079
♪ Your man, your man ♪
479
00:25:39,163 --> 00:25:41,415
- ♪ You know,
he's really all right ♪
480
00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:43,042
- ♪ Your man,
your man, your man ♪
481
00:25:43,125 --> 00:25:45,711
- ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he treats me... ♪
482
00:25:45,794 --> 00:25:48,547
The only freedom I had was
483
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:50,591
when the Ikettes and I got
the dancing ready
484
00:25:50,674 --> 00:25:52,676
and I got the dresses ready.
485
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,303
And we'd get everything,
486
00:25:54,386 --> 00:25:56,513
except we didn't even know
what song was coming up.
487
00:25:56,597 --> 00:25:58,223
He would...
♪ Da dum ♪
488
00:25:58,307 --> 00:26:00,392
Do it with the guitar,
you know?
489
00:26:00,476 --> 00:26:03,145
♪ He ran home, and my man... ♪
490
00:26:03,228 --> 00:26:06,231
It was awful in a way,
but it was a lesson.
491
00:26:06,315 --> 00:26:10,819
Now that I look back,
I see it as a training.
492
00:26:10,903 --> 00:26:15,407
You adjust to what is given,
493
00:26:15,574 --> 00:26:18,160
and that is what was given
at the time.
494
00:26:18,243 --> 00:26:20,996
[solemn music]
495
00:26:21,205 --> 00:26:23,957
♪ ♪
496
00:26:24,041 --> 00:26:26,126
- He controlled the music,
and she had to...
497
00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:27,836
it was always his music,
and it was...
498
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,213
which is very same-y
499
00:26:29,296 --> 00:26:30,714
if you listen to it
all the time.
500
00:26:30,798 --> 00:26:33,050
A lot of it is just brilliant.
I love those records.
501
00:26:33,133 --> 00:26:35,094
But it's of a type.
It's one thing.
502
00:26:35,177 --> 00:26:36,637
It's Ike Turner's stuff.
503
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,181
And she... I think she had
broader tastes than that.
504
00:26:39,223 --> 00:26:40,849
She must've felt
there was more you could do
505
00:26:40,933 --> 00:26:42,434
with music than this.
506
00:26:42,518 --> 00:26:44,311
I think she probably had
a bigger dream than...
507
00:26:44,394 --> 00:26:46,146
without knowing it,
than he did.
508
00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:48,690
♪ ♪
509
00:26:48,816 --> 00:26:51,276
- People started to see
that there was more to Tina
510
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:53,278
than what Ike had
to offer her...
511
00:26:54,113 --> 00:26:55,072
especially after
512
00:26:55,155 --> 00:26:57,366
the "River Deep -
Mountain High" album,
513
00:26:57,449 --> 00:26:59,451
you know, with Phil Spector.
514
00:26:59,535 --> 00:27:00,661
- Phil Spector was
the greatest
515
00:27:00,744 --> 00:27:02,496
pop record producer
of that period.
516
00:27:02,788 --> 00:27:04,957
He played the studio
like an instrument, you know,
517
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,458
and he found
all these singers,
518
00:27:06,542 --> 00:27:08,585
and he made
these wonderful records.
519
00:27:08,669 --> 00:27:09,920
And when Phil Spector wanted
to make
520
00:27:10,003 --> 00:27:11,463
"River Deep - Mountain High,"
521
00:27:11,547 --> 00:27:13,590
Ike's presence was
not necessary.
522
00:27:13,674 --> 00:27:15,592
Just bring Tina in
because she's the star.
523
00:27:15,676 --> 00:27:16,969
[tape clicks]
524
00:27:17,344 --> 00:27:20,931
- Spector didn't want Ike
nowhere near the studio.
525
00:27:21,014 --> 00:27:22,724
So he paid Ike
X amount of dollars
526
00:27:22,808 --> 00:27:26,353
to get him...
taken care of, so to speak,
527
00:27:26,436 --> 00:27:28,897
so that he
wouldn't interfere with Tina.
528
00:27:29,565 --> 00:27:31,692
And that was the first time
they gave Tina
529
00:27:32,568 --> 00:27:35,654
her chance to sing differently.
530
00:27:35,737 --> 00:27:38,031
- ♪ Bah, bah, bah-bah, bah ♪
531
00:27:38,115 --> 00:27:39,825
- I remember
532
00:27:39,908 --> 00:27:42,995
starting to sing with Phil
533
00:27:43,328 --> 00:27:46,999
that style of singing, but
which Ike had been singing...
534
00:27:47,082 --> 00:27:49,585
♪ When I was ♪
- One more time.
535
00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:50,878
- And he said,
"No, no, no, no, no.
536
00:27:50,961 --> 00:27:52,462
Just sing the melody."
537
00:27:53,505 --> 00:27:54,840
And I liked that.
538
00:27:55,507 --> 00:27:58,260
That was a freedom
that I didn't have...
539
00:27:58,802 --> 00:28:01,430
you know, like a bird
that gets out of a cage.
540
00:28:02,514 --> 00:28:05,726
I was excited about singing
a different type of song.
541
00:28:05,809 --> 00:28:09,021
I was excited about getting
out of the studio on my own.
542
00:28:09,104 --> 00:28:12,441
It was a freedom
to do something different.
543
00:28:12,524 --> 00:28:15,402
[energetic '60s R&B]
544
00:28:15,485 --> 00:28:17,446
♪ ♪
545
00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:20,282
♪ When I was a little girl ♪
546
00:28:20,365 --> 00:28:22,367
♪ I had a rag doll ♪
547
00:28:23,285 --> 00:28:26,330
♪ Only doll I've ever owned ♪
548
00:28:26,622 --> 00:28:29,082
- ♪ Doo, doo, doo-doo ♪
549
00:28:29,166 --> 00:28:31,752
- ♪ Now I love you
just the way ♪
550
00:28:31,835 --> 00:28:34,004
♪ I loved that rag doll ♪
551
00:28:34,963 --> 00:28:37,591
♪ But only now
my love has grown ♪
552
00:28:39,218 --> 00:28:41,428
♪ And it gets stronger ♪
553
00:28:41,845 --> 00:28:44,097
♪ In every way ♪
554
00:28:44,681 --> 00:28:47,017
♪ And it gets deeper ♪
555
00:28:47,517 --> 00:28:49,686
♪ Let me say ♪
556
00:28:50,437 --> 00:28:52,731
♪ And it gets higher ♪
557
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,525
♪ Day by day ♪
558
00:28:56,443 --> 00:28:59,112
♪ And do I love you? ♪
559
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:01,823
♪ My, oh, my ♪
560
00:29:02,241 --> 00:29:04,451
♪ Yeah, river deep ♪
561
00:29:04,743 --> 00:29:08,205
♪ Mountain high,
yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
562
00:29:08,288 --> 00:29:10,332
♪ And if I lost you ♪
563
00:29:10,415 --> 00:29:12,793
♪ Would I cry? ♪
564
00:29:13,585 --> 00:29:16,380
♪ Oh, how I love you, baby ♪
565
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,801
♪ Baby, baby, baby ♪
566
00:29:20,884 --> 00:29:22,803
It was so big,
567
00:29:22,886 --> 00:29:25,305
and my voice sounded
so different
568
00:29:25,389 --> 00:29:27,683
standing on top
of all that music.
569
00:29:27,933 --> 00:29:29,643
♪ I love you, baby ♪
570
00:29:29,726 --> 00:29:33,021
♪ Like a flower loves
the spring... ♪
571
00:29:33,105 --> 00:29:34,648
- People started to see
572
00:29:34,731 --> 00:29:36,733
Tina was capable
of so much more.
573
00:29:36,817 --> 00:29:38,527
She had wings, man.
574
00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:40,946
- ♪ And I love you, baby ♪
575
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:44,241
♪ Like a schoolboy loves
his pet ♪
576
00:29:44,533 --> 00:29:47,077
- This is such
an overpowering orchestration.
577
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,328
It's so complex.
578
00:29:48,412 --> 00:29:50,497
This record,
it just blows out walls.
579
00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:51,748
- ♪ Ah ♪
580
00:29:51,832 --> 00:29:53,667
- ♪ Baby ♪
581
00:29:54,626 --> 00:29:55,961
♪ Baby ♪
582
00:30:00,257 --> 00:30:01,800
♪ Oh, baby ♪
583
00:30:02,050 --> 00:30:03,051
♪ Yow! ♪
584
00:30:04,928 --> 00:30:07,389
♪ Oh ♪
585
00:30:07,472 --> 00:30:09,433
- It just died
in the United States.
586
00:30:09,516 --> 00:30:10,809
Died.
Nobody wanted to hear it.
587
00:30:10,892 --> 00:30:12,561
And you listen to this record,
and you think,
588
00:30:12,644 --> 00:30:14,771
"What's the matter
with this country," you know?
589
00:30:14,855 --> 00:30:16,356
"I'm so ashamed
to be an American."
590
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,151
[chuckles] You know,
it's like, what's wrong?
591
00:30:19,276 --> 00:30:23,405
So that was a big blow
to Spector's career,
592
00:30:23,488 --> 00:30:27,367
and, you know, maybe Ike
probably was thinking,
593
00:30:27,451 --> 00:30:28,952
you know, "Well, see?
594
00:30:29,036 --> 00:30:30,454
He's not so great."
[chuckles]
595
00:30:30,537 --> 00:30:32,164
"You should stick with me."
596
00:30:32,539 --> 00:30:36,251
- Like any Black artist
in America that do any tune,
597
00:30:36,335 --> 00:30:38,879
it has to go, like, top ten
on the R&B charts
598
00:30:38,962 --> 00:30:41,006
before the top 40 stations
will touch it.
599
00:30:41,089 --> 00:30:44,760
And "River Deep" was not
a Black record, you know,
600
00:30:44,843 --> 00:30:47,179
and so it wouldn't make
the top ten on the R&B charts,
601
00:30:47,262 --> 00:30:48,680
and so, therefore,
the top 40 radio stations
602
00:30:48,764 --> 00:30:50,182
wouldn't play it.
603
00:30:50,265 --> 00:30:52,684
Over in England,
they listen to the record,
604
00:30:52,768 --> 00:30:55,187
and if the record is
a R&B record, it's R&B.
605
00:30:55,270 --> 00:30:56,605
You know,
if it's rhythm and blues,
606
00:30:56,688 --> 00:30:58,315
it's rhythm and blues,
and if it's pop, it's pop,
607
00:30:58,398 --> 00:30:59,691
you know, and so it got played
over here.
608
00:30:59,775 --> 00:31:00,901
It never got played in America.
609
00:31:00,984 --> 00:31:02,152
The Black jockeys say
it's too white.
610
00:31:02,235 --> 00:31:03,612
The white jockeys say
it's too Black.
611
00:31:03,695 --> 00:31:06,656
["Contact High"]
612
00:31:06,740 --> 00:31:10,035
[upbeat rock music]
613
00:31:10,118 --> 00:31:11,370
- ♪ I was at this party ♪
614
00:31:11,453 --> 00:31:13,038
♪ That had the doors
all closed ♪
615
00:31:13,121 --> 00:31:15,749
♪ ♪
616
00:31:15,832 --> 00:31:18,668
♪ All this funny smoke
kept going up my nose ♪
617
00:31:18,752 --> 00:31:21,380
♪ ♪
618
00:31:21,505 --> 00:31:24,383
♪ They had this joint
that they was passing around ♪
619
00:31:24,466 --> 00:31:26,968
♪ ♪
620
00:31:27,052 --> 00:31:30,138
♪ And when they got to me,
I turned it down ♪
621
00:31:30,222 --> 00:31:32,682
♪ ♪
622
00:31:32,766 --> 00:31:33,934
- You live in LA?
- Yes.
623
00:31:34,017 --> 00:31:35,769
- What sort of life
do you have?
624
00:31:35,852 --> 00:31:38,355
- Well, my life is sort of
based around my four sons.
625
00:31:38,438 --> 00:31:39,731
I have a housekeeper
that takes care of them
626
00:31:39,815 --> 00:31:40,941
when I travel.
627
00:31:41,024 --> 00:31:42,651
Being a wife and being Tina
at the same time
628
00:31:42,734 --> 00:31:44,069
is almost like a split person.
629
00:31:44,152 --> 00:31:45,487
But I'm able
to separate the two,
630
00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:47,656
so everything is fine...
the whole thing is sane.
631
00:31:47,739 --> 00:31:49,783
♪ ♪
632
00:31:49,866 --> 00:31:52,494
♪ But everybody got tired
of blowing that grass ♪
633
00:31:52,577 --> 00:31:55,622
♪ ♪
634
00:31:55,705 --> 00:31:57,040
♪ I told 'em at first... ♪
635
00:31:57,124 --> 00:32:00,836
- Ike Jr. and Michael
were Ike's kids
636
00:32:00,919 --> 00:32:04,172
by Lorraine, his previous wife.
637
00:32:04,589 --> 00:32:06,091
Tina had Craig
638
00:32:06,174 --> 00:32:08,260
when she was
with the saxophone player,
639
00:32:08,343 --> 00:32:10,137
Raymond Hill,
640
00:32:10,220 --> 00:32:13,473
and then she had Ronnie,
you know, with Ike.
641
00:32:14,266 --> 00:32:16,351
They were, like, all together
by the time I met Tina.
642
00:32:16,435 --> 00:32:18,770
- ♪ Like laid ♪
643
00:32:18,854 --> 00:32:20,147
Michael, don't stand
underneath that door.
644
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:22,274
Don't lean on that door
like that.
645
00:32:23,650 --> 00:32:25,193
I made myself a family.
646
00:32:25,277 --> 00:32:28,613
I totally psyched myself out,
and I made a home,
647
00:32:28,697 --> 00:32:30,574
and I found some pleasure
in that home
648
00:32:30,657 --> 00:32:32,033
every now and then.
649
00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:34,035
Birthdays with children
and dinners,
650
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:35,787
Thanksgiving dinners,
periodically,
651
00:32:35,871 --> 00:32:37,956
but at least I had
some sense of a life
652
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:39,875
of what I had always wanted.
653
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,294
♪ I was just too stoned
to take that drive ♪
654
00:32:43,253 --> 00:32:46,173
[playing piano]
655
00:32:46,256 --> 00:32:48,049
♪ ♪
656
00:32:48,133 --> 00:32:49,468
- Where my trophy at?
657
00:32:49,551 --> 00:32:51,011
Give me my trophy.
658
00:32:51,219 --> 00:32:53,430
That's a water boy trophy.
- It's not.
659
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,223
- It's Mother's new trophy.
660
00:32:56,349 --> 00:32:58,810
- She was gone
most of the time.
661
00:32:59,436 --> 00:33:01,021
Over a period of eight years,
662
00:33:01,104 --> 00:33:02,647
everything was
basically the same.
663
00:33:02,731 --> 00:33:04,774
Eight months on the road,
four months back,
664
00:33:04,858 --> 00:33:07,152
eight months on the road,
four months back.
665
00:33:07,736 --> 00:33:09,488
She was very, very strict,
666
00:33:09,571 --> 00:33:11,239
particularly when
she was home.
667
00:33:11,323 --> 00:33:12,616
We couldn't have company
668
00:33:12,699 --> 00:33:14,117
unless we finished
our homework.
669
00:33:14,201 --> 00:33:15,994
We had to do our chores.
670
00:33:16,077 --> 00:33:17,704
We had to eat breakfast,
lunch, and dinner
671
00:33:17,787 --> 00:33:19,039
at the same time.
672
00:33:19,122 --> 00:33:22,459
She really took
to raising us personally
673
00:33:22,542 --> 00:33:24,878
because, basically,
that was her happiness,
674
00:33:24,961 --> 00:33:26,046
to a certain extent.
675
00:33:53,823 --> 00:33:57,452
- Everybody was happy
around my mother.
676
00:33:57,536 --> 00:33:59,120
And she was always sad.
677
00:33:59,204 --> 00:34:00,956
She never had friends.
678
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:03,583
She never had anybody
she could really confide in.
679
00:34:03,667 --> 00:34:06,211
So, basically,
her happiness was with us
680
00:34:06,294 --> 00:34:08,505
and her time alone
in her room.
681
00:34:08,588 --> 00:34:09,965
And there was nothing
she can do
682
00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:11,675
about her circumstances.
683
00:34:12,842 --> 00:34:15,095
He had to know
where she was at all the time.
684
00:34:15,178 --> 00:34:17,597
She was on allowance.
She didn't have her own money.
685
00:34:18,139 --> 00:34:20,267
My mother really had
a non-existent life
686
00:34:20,350 --> 00:34:23,270
other than the studio
and the house.
687
00:34:26,856 --> 00:34:29,568
- When I first
interviewed her,
688
00:34:29,651 --> 00:34:31,570
one of the questions
she kept on asking was,
689
00:34:31,653 --> 00:34:33,363
"Why did I stay?
Why did I stay?
690
00:34:33,446 --> 00:34:35,407
People want to know
why I stayed."
691
00:34:35,490 --> 00:34:38,285
And for me, it was interesting
692
00:34:38,368 --> 00:34:42,455
to think about the violence
that happened before Ike,
693
00:34:42,539 --> 00:34:44,624
'cause I think
a lot of people don't know
694
00:34:44,708 --> 00:34:48,420
that she grew up watching
violence in her own home.
695
00:36:29,312 --> 00:36:31,940
[bluesy rock music]
696
00:36:32,023 --> 00:36:33,233
Right now...
697
00:36:33,525 --> 00:36:36,111
[applause]
698
00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:38,905
I think you might like
to hear something from us...
699
00:36:38,988 --> 00:36:41,783
- ♪ Left a good job ♪
- Nice and easy.
700
00:36:41,866 --> 00:36:44,661
- ♪ Down in the city ♪
[cheers and applause]
701
00:36:44,744 --> 00:36:46,204
♪ Working for the man ♪
702
00:36:46,287 --> 00:36:48,164
- Well, now...
- ♪ Every night and day ♪
703
00:36:48,248 --> 00:36:50,458
- I'd like to do that for you,
704
00:36:50,834 --> 00:36:53,545
but there's just one thing,
you see.
705
00:36:53,628 --> 00:36:56,297
We never, ever do nothing
706
00:36:57,340 --> 00:36:59,008
nice and easy.
707
00:36:59,968 --> 00:37:01,302
[chuckles]
708
00:37:01,970 --> 00:37:05,974
We always do it
nice and rough.
709
00:37:06,057 --> 00:37:08,143
♪ ♪
710
00:37:08,268 --> 00:37:10,603
Now, we're gonna take
the beginning of this song,
711
00:37:10,770 --> 00:37:12,063
and we're gonna do it...
712
00:37:12,147 --> 00:37:14,774
- ♪ And we rolling ♪
- Easy.
713
00:37:14,858 --> 00:37:16,568
Both: ♪ Rolling ♪
714
00:37:17,444 --> 00:37:20,238
♪ Rolling on the river ♪
715
00:37:20,321 --> 00:37:21,990
- ♪ My, my ♪
- Listen.
716
00:37:23,032 --> 00:37:25,118
♪ I left a good job ♪
717
00:37:25,201 --> 00:37:27,162
♪ In the city... ♪
- ♪ Down in the city... ♪
718
00:37:49,684 --> 00:37:53,563
- ♪ Proud Mary
keep on burning ♪
719
00:37:54,189 --> 00:37:56,357
♪ And we're rolling... ♪
720
00:37:56,524 --> 00:37:59,068
I was truly a friend to Ike.
721
00:37:59,694 --> 00:38:01,488
I had promised
that I would help him.
722
00:38:01,571 --> 00:38:03,656
♪ Rolling on the river ♪
723
00:38:03,740 --> 00:38:05,533
So I was still trying
to help him
724
00:38:05,617 --> 00:38:07,118
to get a hit record.
725
00:38:07,619 --> 00:38:11,372
All:
♪ ...river ♪
726
00:38:11,456 --> 00:38:12,582
- Two, three, four!
727
00:38:12,665 --> 00:38:15,752
[energetic R&B music,
cheers and applause]
728
00:38:15,835 --> 00:38:19,464
♪ ♪
729
00:38:22,634 --> 00:38:25,303
- ♪ Now, I left a good job
in the city ♪
730
00:38:25,637 --> 00:38:28,056
♪ Working for the man
every night and day ♪
731
00:38:28,556 --> 00:38:31,017
♪ And I never lost
one minute of sleeping ♪
732
00:38:31,142 --> 00:38:33,520
♪ Worried 'bout the way
things might have been ♪
733
00:38:33,937 --> 00:38:36,731
♪ Big wheel keep on turning ♪
singers: ♪ Turning ♪
734
00:38:36,815 --> 00:38:38,525
- ♪ Proud Mary
keep on burning ♪
735
00:38:38,608 --> 00:38:39,734
singers: ♪ Burning ♪
all: ♪ Rolling ♪
736
00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:41,069
- ♪ Yeah ♪
all: ♪ Rolling ♪
737
00:38:41,194 --> 00:38:43,530
- ♪ Rolling ♪
all: ♪ Rolling on the river ♪
738
00:38:43,613 --> 00:38:45,824
- ♪ I said we're rolling ♪
- ♪ Rolling ♪
739
00:38:45,907 --> 00:38:46,991
all: ♪ Rolling ♪
- ♪ Yeah ♪
740
00:38:47,075 --> 00:38:48,868
all:
♪ Rolling on the river ♪
741
00:38:49,577 --> 00:38:52,205
♪ River, do, do, do,
do, do, do, do ♪
742
00:38:52,288 --> 00:38:53,498
♪ Do, do, do ♪
743
00:38:53,581 --> 00:38:59,587
♪ ♪
744
00:39:02,173 --> 00:39:04,092
- "Proud Mary" became a hit.
745
00:39:04,175 --> 00:39:06,511
We were all over America.
746
00:39:06,594 --> 00:39:09,055
♪ And I pumped a lot of 'tane
down in New Orleans ♪
747
00:39:09,222 --> 00:39:11,766
♪ But I never saw
the good side of the city ♪
748
00:39:11,933 --> 00:39:14,352
♪ Till I hitched a ride
on the riverboat queen... ♪
749
00:39:14,435 --> 00:39:16,688
- That's just fabulous.
That's fabulous.
750
00:39:17,814 --> 00:39:19,566
- Who settles an argument
if you...
751
00:39:19,649 --> 00:39:20,942
- Ah.
752
00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:23,444
Things are not always
the way they look, you know.
753
00:39:23,528 --> 00:39:24,988
- No.
Ike's kind of quiet.
754
00:39:25,071 --> 00:39:27,115
- Yeah, he's...
Ike is very bashful
755
00:39:27,198 --> 00:39:28,825
when the lights are on, and...
756
00:39:28,908 --> 00:39:30,869
[laughter]
757
00:39:31,578 --> 00:39:32,871
But on the other hand,
758
00:39:32,954 --> 00:39:34,289
when he's
in the recording studio,
759
00:39:34,372 --> 00:39:36,416
Ike's the one that does
all of the ruling around,
760
00:39:36,499 --> 00:39:38,626
the talking,
he's the whole thing.
761
00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:40,169
- But in public,
he's like this.
762
00:39:40,211 --> 00:39:41,504
- Yeah, 'cause he can't
get it together.
763
00:39:41,588 --> 00:39:43,172
Takes him...
[laughter]
764
00:40:08,573 --> 00:40:10,241
♪ You better do it,
we're rolling... ♪
765
00:40:15,830 --> 00:40:17,040
♪ Rolling ♪
- ♪ Rolling ♪
766
00:40:17,123 --> 00:40:18,666
all: ♪ Rolling on the river ♪
767
00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:20,710
- ♪ Go ahead, ah... ♪
768
00:40:27,592 --> 00:40:31,054
[singing indistinctly]
769
00:40:33,514 --> 00:40:34,974
♪ Hey ♪
770
00:40:35,683 --> 00:40:37,268
[music fades]
771
00:40:48,529 --> 00:40:51,366
[singing indistinctly]
772
00:40:53,826 --> 00:40:56,037
- I swear you're behind me.
Y'all behind me.
773
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,455
These are all...
774
00:40:57,538 --> 00:41:00,500
I'm on a speed above
where y'all feeling at.
775
00:41:00,583 --> 00:41:02,669
- You're saying on him, too?
- Y'all hear me?
776
00:41:10,802 --> 00:41:12,553
I'm just saying, like,
you're telling her that,
777
00:41:12,637 --> 00:41:13,805
and she's not getting there.
778
00:41:13,888 --> 00:41:15,682
I'm just trying
to give her an example...
779
00:41:16,099 --> 00:41:17,433
of how to sing.
780
00:41:18,184 --> 00:41:19,769
- Okay.
Turn it off.
781
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,788
[solemn music]
782
00:41:38,871 --> 00:41:40,373
- In the later part
of their career,
783
00:41:40,456 --> 00:41:42,208
when, you know,
the hits weren't coming
784
00:41:42,291 --> 00:41:43,876
and a lot of the money
wasn't coming in,
785
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,421
he started placing
the blame elsewhere.
786
00:41:46,504 --> 00:41:48,840
You know, he took
a lot of his anger out on her.
787
00:41:48,923 --> 00:41:51,050
♪ ♪
788
00:41:51,134 --> 00:41:54,512
Most of the time,
when Ike would come home,
789
00:41:54,595 --> 00:41:56,305
he would take her
back in the room
790
00:41:56,389 --> 00:41:57,807
and then close the door,
791
00:41:57,890 --> 00:41:59,892
and there'd be the screams.
792
00:42:00,101 --> 00:42:02,228
And we were so petrified,
we were in bed
793
00:42:02,311 --> 00:42:04,522
with the, you know, covers
over our heads.
794
00:42:04,981 --> 00:42:08,234
And then I remember one time,
he was...
795
00:42:08,693 --> 00:42:10,695
[sighs, clears throat]
796
00:42:12,905 --> 00:42:15,324
[voice breaking]
He was striking my mother.
797
00:42:16,034 --> 00:42:17,452
And I was young.
798
00:42:17,535 --> 00:42:19,162
And he had thrown
799
00:42:19,245 --> 00:42:21,956
some scalding hot coffee
on her.
800
00:42:23,833 --> 00:42:25,752
And I went
and banged on the door,
801
00:42:27,253 --> 00:42:28,629
and I said, "Mother."
802
00:42:28,713 --> 00:42:30,339
And then it stopped,
and then she said,
803
00:42:30,423 --> 00:42:31,591
"Craig, I'm okay."
804
00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:35,344
He came to apologize,
805
00:42:36,012 --> 00:42:39,015
and he apologized
for the third-degree burn
806
00:42:39,098 --> 00:42:40,349
but didn't apologize
807
00:42:40,433 --> 00:42:41,768
for throwing the coffee
on her.
808
00:42:41,851 --> 00:42:43,603
At that point in time,
I hated that man
809
00:42:43,686 --> 00:42:45,271
for the rest of my life.
810
00:42:45,605 --> 00:42:47,690
And I'll never forget that.
811
00:42:47,774 --> 00:42:48,900
Never.
812
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:54,280
♪ ♪
813
00:43:01,204 --> 00:43:05,083
♪ ♪
814
00:43:06,250 --> 00:43:08,336
I had began
to not really care.
815
00:43:08,419 --> 00:43:10,922
♪ ♪
816
00:43:11,089 --> 00:43:12,673
And I was there alone.
817
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,760
How can I tell you
what alone meant?
818
00:43:15,843 --> 00:43:20,807
♪ ♪
819
00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:49,043
- [indistinct singing]
- [laughs]
820
00:43:58,511 --> 00:44:00,179
All:
♪ Tell me, have you seen him? ♪
821
00:44:00,263 --> 00:44:01,889
- [laughs]
822
00:44:13,901 --> 00:44:17,655
♪ ♪
823
00:44:18,364 --> 00:44:21,075
- We got to the hospital.
They pumped her stomach.
824
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:23,077
And I think Ike was out
talking to the doctor
825
00:44:23,161 --> 00:44:24,787
or something,
826
00:44:24,871 --> 00:44:26,539
and I was in there,
just her and I,
827
00:44:26,622 --> 00:44:28,875
and I was scared shitless,
and I thought,
828
00:44:28,958 --> 00:44:31,043
"Tina, you can't die.
I mean, come on, now."
829
00:44:31,127 --> 00:44:32,420
It just really scared me
830
00:44:32,503 --> 00:44:35,089
'cause I didn't know
what had ha... you know,
831
00:44:35,173 --> 00:44:37,925
if she was gonna pull through
or not.
832
00:44:38,009 --> 00:44:43,556
♪ ♪
833
00:45:05,369 --> 00:45:07,246
- These are some
difficult questions now,
834
00:45:07,330 --> 00:45:10,333
and there was a time
where she was unhappy,
835
00:45:10,416 --> 00:45:12,168
and there was
a suicide attempt.
836
00:45:12,251 --> 00:45:13,794
Can you talk
about her unhappiness
837
00:45:13,878 --> 00:45:15,421
and how that made you feel?
838
00:45:20,092 --> 00:45:22,470
- Well, I can't really say
how I felt
839
00:45:22,553 --> 00:45:25,681
because I never knew
how she felt.
840
00:45:25,765 --> 00:45:29,685
I didn't know
why she attempted suicide,
841
00:45:29,769 --> 00:45:32,146
because I thought
maybe that it was a...
842
00:45:34,774 --> 00:45:36,150
Well...
843
00:45:38,152 --> 00:45:40,071
let me start this again.
844
00:45:40,154 --> 00:45:43,157
At first,
Tina attempting suicide
845
00:45:43,241 --> 00:45:45,201
two or three times,
846
00:45:45,534 --> 00:45:48,663
I think that this was
some form of attention.
847
00:45:49,413 --> 00:45:52,708
She was unhappy about
the things that I was doing,
848
00:45:52,792 --> 00:45:54,502
me being a womanizer,
849
00:45:54,543 --> 00:45:56,212
being with all these women
and stuff like this,
850
00:45:56,295 --> 00:45:58,172
and I think that
851
00:45:58,256 --> 00:46:00,132
the real truth is that
852
00:46:00,216 --> 00:46:03,636
she was trying to be something
that she wasn't.
853
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,347
She was... wait a minute.
I want to clarify this.
854
00:46:06,430 --> 00:46:08,933
She was trying to be
855
00:46:09,183 --> 00:46:11,227
what she thought I wanted...
856
00:46:11,310 --> 00:46:13,562
not what she really was.
857
00:46:13,646 --> 00:46:15,231
She was trying to please me.
858
00:46:15,314 --> 00:46:17,858
And so, therefore, she was
going through a lot of hurt,
859
00:46:17,942 --> 00:46:19,527
and I think
she had a very unhappy life
860
00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:20,695
because of that.
861
00:46:20,778 --> 00:46:22,321
I think we were living a lie,
862
00:46:22,405 --> 00:46:25,533
and if I had done used
my head any at all,
863
00:46:25,616 --> 00:46:27,451
I would've known better.
864
00:46:27,827 --> 00:46:32,164
And so this is what led
to our downfall.
865
00:46:36,085 --> 00:46:38,921
[soft music]
866
00:46:39,088 --> 00:46:40,965
♪ ♪
867
00:47:30,348 --> 00:47:33,184
[bell chimes]
868
00:47:35,061 --> 00:47:38,022
- Buddhism was a way out.
869
00:47:38,731 --> 00:47:40,524
And it changed your attitude
870
00:47:40,608 --> 00:47:43,527
towards the situation
that you're in.
871
00:47:43,611 --> 00:47:45,446
The more you chant,
the more, you know,
872
00:47:45,529 --> 00:47:48,032
you become liberated mentally.
873
00:47:58,667 --> 00:48:01,545
[chanting]
874
00:48:15,976 --> 00:48:17,978
[cheers and applause]
875
00:48:25,319 --> 00:48:26,695
[chanting]
876
00:48:26,779 --> 00:48:28,531
[cheers and applause]
877
00:48:28,614 --> 00:48:29,740
[laughter]
878
00:48:30,825 --> 00:48:32,451
[laughter]
879
00:48:40,251 --> 00:48:44,296
- ♪ Yo ♪
880
00:48:44,505 --> 00:48:45,589
Hey!
881
00:48:45,673 --> 00:48:47,633
Crowd: ♪ Yo ♪
882
00:48:52,763 --> 00:48:55,683
- [groans oddly]
883
00:48:55,766 --> 00:48:58,561
[singing a chant]
884
00:48:58,644 --> 00:48:59,770
Hey!
885
00:48:59,854 --> 00:49:01,480
[crowd sings]
886
00:49:01,564 --> 00:49:05,025
[chanting]
887
00:49:12,658 --> 00:49:14,368
- ♪ Every woman ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
888
00:49:14,577 --> 00:49:17,204
- ♪ Hey, hey,
every move, girl ♪
889
00:49:17,288 --> 00:49:18,873
♪ You've got to have
a little respect ♪
890
00:49:19,665 --> 00:49:20,624
singers:
♪ Just a little bit ♪
891
00:49:20,708 --> 00:49:22,585
- Ike had recognized it, too,
892
00:49:22,668 --> 00:49:25,337
that he couldn't control
her anymore,
893
00:49:25,421 --> 00:49:27,673
because she just wasn't
putting up with any of that.
894
00:49:27,756 --> 00:49:28,841
- Right now...
895
00:49:29,925 --> 00:49:31,677
I'm gonna talk about respect...
896
00:49:32,386 --> 00:49:33,679
because, you see,
897
00:49:35,181 --> 00:49:36,891
respect is what I want.
898
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:40,394
I think
it's what most of us want.
899
00:49:41,061 --> 00:49:43,814
But, you know, we don't always
get what we want,
900
00:49:44,356 --> 00:49:45,858
especially us women.
901
00:49:45,941 --> 00:49:47,568
[cheers and applause]
902
00:49:47,651 --> 00:49:49,320
Tonight I'm gonna speak
for us women, you see,
903
00:49:49,403 --> 00:49:51,489
because, somehow,
904
00:49:52,198 --> 00:49:54,867
the men always manage to get
905
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:56,619
what they want.
906
00:49:57,077 --> 00:49:58,370
That's right.
907
00:49:58,746 --> 00:50:00,498
They do what they want to do
908
00:50:01,624 --> 00:50:03,626
whenever they want to do it.
909
00:50:03,709 --> 00:50:05,377
And you know what?
910
00:50:06,003 --> 00:50:08,964
They do it with whoever
they want to do it with.
911
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,301
Now, fellas, you've started
us women to thinking.
912
00:50:12,510 --> 00:50:14,345
Yeah, we can think, too.
913
00:50:14,470 --> 00:50:18,390
We think that whatever's
out there in the streets
914
00:50:18,474 --> 00:50:20,142
must be good...
915
00:50:20,643 --> 00:50:23,646
'cause you mens been out there
a long time.
916
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,191
Now us women wants to go
out there and get us some, too.
917
00:50:27,274 --> 00:50:28,484
[chuckles]
918
00:50:28,567 --> 00:50:29,860
But I want you to...
919
00:50:30,194 --> 00:50:31,612
♪ To get together ♪
920
00:50:31,862 --> 00:50:34,156
♪ I want you
to try to feel it ♪
921
00:50:34,698 --> 00:50:35,866
♪ Try to feel it ♪
922
00:50:35,991 --> 00:50:38,285
♪ And I want everybody ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
923
00:50:38,369 --> 00:50:39,954
- ♪ To do a soul clap ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
924
00:50:40,037 --> 00:50:41,622
- ♪ Clap your hands ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
925
00:50:41,705 --> 00:50:43,123
- ♪ Everybody ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
926
00:50:43,207 --> 00:50:46,126
- ♪ Clap, clap,
clap your hands, everybody ♪
927
00:50:46,460 --> 00:50:49,255
[frenetic R&B music]
928
00:50:49,338 --> 00:50:52,967
♪ ♪
929
00:50:53,050 --> 00:50:54,635
♪ Ow! ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
930
00:50:54,718 --> 00:50:56,428
- ♪ A little respect ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
931
00:50:56,512 --> 00:50:58,389
- ♪ Oh ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
932
00:50:58,472 --> 00:51:00,182
♪ Just a little bit ♪
- Sock it to me.
933
00:51:00,266 --> 00:51:01,850
♪ Now get on ♪
934
00:51:02,476 --> 00:51:04,270
♪ Child ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
935
00:51:04,353 --> 00:51:05,688
- ♪ Hey ♪
singers: ♪ Just a little bit ♪
936
00:51:05,771 --> 00:51:06,939
- ♪ Clap your hands ♪
937
00:51:07,022 --> 00:51:08,190
♪ Now, come on ♪
938
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,025
♪ Clap your hands ♪
939
00:51:10,109 --> 00:51:11,819
♪ That's what I mean ♪
940
00:51:11,902 --> 00:51:13,153
♪ Oh, yeah ♪
[crowd roaring]
941
00:51:13,237 --> 00:51:14,363
♪ Oh, yeah ♪
942
00:51:42,266 --> 00:51:43,475
- Okay, okay.
943
00:51:53,319 --> 00:51:55,988
[airplane engine roars]
944
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,033
[tense music]
945
00:52:28,395 --> 00:52:33,233
♪ ♪
946
00:53:48,642 --> 00:53:52,020
The memory of that
was horrendous, of course,
947
00:53:52,104 --> 00:53:54,898
because I was practically
run over by a truck.
948
00:53:54,982 --> 00:53:56,650
I didn't... I didn't...
949
00:53:56,734 --> 00:53:58,360
well, I wasn't
thinking clearly, of course.
950
00:53:58,444 --> 00:54:01,947
And so I thought at that point
was a time when I could cross,
951
00:54:02,030 --> 00:54:04,825
but, you know, I had felt
like I was moving slow,
952
00:54:04,908 --> 00:54:06,577
and there was that big truck,
953
00:54:06,660 --> 00:54:08,203
really one of the big ones
coming,
954
00:54:08,287 --> 00:54:09,621
and the horn blew.
955
00:54:09,705 --> 00:54:11,457
"Rah," right?
[horn blares]
956
00:54:11,540 --> 00:54:15,419
And what I mostly remember
957
00:54:15,502 --> 00:54:16,837
is flashing lights.
958
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,297
[horns blaring]
959
00:54:18,881 --> 00:54:23,177
[triumphant music]
960
00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:29,266
♪ ♪
961
00:54:38,942 --> 00:54:41,862
[chanting]
962
00:54:41,945 --> 00:54:45,407
♪ ♪
963
00:55:43,423 --> 00:55:46,343
[soft music]
964
00:55:46,426 --> 00:55:51,348
♪ ♪
965
00:55:51,473 --> 00:55:53,725
The next day, it was
the Fourth of July,
966
00:55:53,809 --> 00:55:55,602
and I said, "Of course,
the Fourth of July."
967
00:55:55,686 --> 00:55:58,063
But I'll remember every time,
"Oh, the Fourth of July.
968
00:55:58,146 --> 00:56:00,274
It's when I got my freedom."
969
00:56:01,149 --> 00:56:04,862
♪ ♪
970
00:56:04,987 --> 00:56:07,865
[fireworks crackling]
971
00:56:07,948 --> 00:56:13,704
♪ ♪
972
00:56:36,393 --> 00:56:39,855
The divorce was clean-cut.
973
00:56:39,938 --> 00:56:41,565
I got nothing.
974
00:56:41,648 --> 00:56:43,442
No money, no house, no car.
975
00:57:13,305 --> 00:57:16,141
That is when I realized
that I could use Tina
976
00:57:16,224 --> 00:57:17,976
to become...
977
00:57:18,977 --> 00:57:20,312
a business.
978
00:57:21,980 --> 00:57:24,191
And so I said,
"I'll just take my name."
979
00:57:26,735 --> 00:57:28,153
Ike fought a little bit
980
00:57:28,236 --> 00:57:30,405
because he knew
what I would do with it.
981
00:57:30,781 --> 00:57:33,450
And it was through court
that I got it.
982
00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:34,868
Tina.
983
00:57:39,289 --> 00:57:42,376
- To keep it is to reclaim it,
984
00:57:42,459 --> 00:57:45,087
reshape it, refine it.
985
00:57:47,130 --> 00:57:49,841
Also a kind of, like,
"fuck you" to Ike.
986
00:57:49,925 --> 00:57:52,761
"Yeah, you gave me this name,
987
00:57:52,844 --> 00:57:55,514
but watch what I build
with it."
988
00:57:55,639 --> 00:57:58,684
["Root Toot Undisputable
Rock 'n' Roller"]
989
00:57:58,767 --> 00:58:01,645
[funky rock music]
990
00:58:01,728 --> 00:58:03,397
♪ ♪
991
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,024
- ♪ When you walk
into the bar ♪
992
00:58:06,108 --> 00:58:08,360
♪ I'm the first one
you're gonna see ♪
993
00:58:10,237 --> 00:58:12,781
♪ Business and pleasure
just don't mix ♪
994
00:58:12,864 --> 00:58:15,492
♪ So can I take
your order, please? ♪
995
00:58:17,285 --> 00:58:20,080
♪ You fellas know
I don't take no mess ♪
996
00:58:20,163 --> 00:58:22,416
♪ It's a whole lotta woman ♪
997
00:58:22,499 --> 00:58:25,043
♪ In this dress ♪
998
00:58:25,502 --> 00:58:27,754
♪ Oh, they call me ♪
999
00:58:27,838 --> 00:58:29,506
♪ A root, toot ♪
1000
00:58:29,589 --> 00:58:33,010
♪ Undisputable
rock and roller ♪
1001
00:58:33,093 --> 00:58:34,177
singers: ♪ Roller ♪
1002
00:58:34,261 --> 00:58:36,346
- ♪ I got a fine fanny ♪
1003
00:58:36,430 --> 00:58:38,223
♪ But a rough-talking Annie ♪
1004
00:58:38,306 --> 00:58:40,183
♪ Rock and roller ♪
1005
00:58:41,268 --> 00:58:42,310
♪ Oh! ♪
1006
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:44,813
I realized
I had to go to work.
1007
00:58:44,896 --> 00:58:46,773
I mean, I couldn't
just stay there
1008
00:58:46,857 --> 00:58:48,400
and wait for what?
1009
00:58:48,483 --> 00:58:49,818
I had to work.
1010
00:58:50,027 --> 00:58:51,153
- After Tina left Ike,
1011
00:58:51,486 --> 00:58:53,488
somebody had to pay
for the dates they blew
1012
00:58:53,572 --> 00:58:55,949
and Tina wound up
with all the bills,
1013
00:58:56,033 --> 00:58:57,117
none of the money.
1014
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:58,702
She would go do Vegas.
1015
00:58:58,785 --> 00:59:00,495
She'd go do,
like, McDonald's conventions.
1016
00:59:00,579 --> 00:59:01,913
She'd play anywhere
1017
00:59:01,997 --> 00:59:04,082
just to make the money
to get by.
1018
00:59:04,166 --> 00:59:06,710
- ♪ Everybody knows
to keep it cool... ♪
1019
00:59:07,002 --> 00:59:09,713
- Ike wasn't paying anything
at that point.
1020
00:59:09,796 --> 00:59:12,007
So she's got to support herself
and the kids.
1021
00:59:13,383 --> 00:59:15,594
So that's when I started
booking television shows.
1022
00:59:15,635 --> 00:59:16,928
I mean, we were
doing everything
1023
00:59:17,012 --> 00:59:18,346
from "The Brady Bunch"...
1024
00:59:19,806 --> 00:59:21,558
- ♪ Too many nights ♪
1025
00:59:21,641 --> 00:59:23,143
- To "Hollywood Squares"...
1026
00:59:23,226 --> 00:59:24,728
- In "The Hollywood Squares."
1027
00:59:24,811 --> 00:59:26,688
- Whatever TV shows
we could get her on,
1028
00:59:26,772 --> 00:59:28,857
because that was the only source
of income at that point.
1029
00:59:28,940 --> 00:59:30,358
- Ike and Tina.
Where's Ike?
1030
00:59:30,442 --> 00:59:31,902
[laughs]
- I don't know.
1031
00:59:31,985 --> 00:59:33,862
[laughter]
1032
00:59:34,071 --> 00:59:35,781
- So nice to have you
on the show, Tina.
1033
00:59:35,864 --> 00:59:36,865
- Thank you.
1034
00:59:36,948 --> 00:59:39,659
- What I remember is,
there was always the shadow
1035
00:59:39,743 --> 00:59:41,578
of Ike Turner.
1036
00:59:42,746 --> 00:59:46,500
It was really hard for her,
you know.
1037
00:59:46,583 --> 00:59:47,876
- Is it all right for me
to ask you
1038
00:59:47,959 --> 00:59:50,420
if you and Ike are together
or separated
1039
00:59:50,504 --> 00:59:52,339
or divorced or...
1040
00:59:52,672 --> 00:59:54,382
- Separated and divorced.
[laughs]
1041
00:59:54,466 --> 00:59:56,009
- Separated and divorced?
1042
00:59:56,093 --> 00:59:57,511
- Yeah.
We are divorced.
1043
00:59:57,594 --> 00:59:59,262
- Yeah, it took a while...
1044
00:59:59,346 --> 01:00:01,014
- Oh, yes.
- For you to decide?
1045
01:00:01,098 --> 01:00:03,600
- Well, yes.
It was... I mean, we're family.
1046
01:00:03,683 --> 01:00:06,061
We'd been together
for, like, 16 years.
1047
01:00:06,144 --> 01:00:08,939
- Ike and Tina Turner,
that was a unit.
1048
01:00:09,022 --> 01:00:11,108
- People still call me
Ike and Tina.
1049
01:00:11,191 --> 01:00:12,943
- Ike and Tina?
- Yeah, they do.
1050
01:00:13,026 --> 01:00:15,904
- He triggered
a lot of trauma...
1051
01:00:15,987 --> 01:00:18,156
just the thought of him,
1052
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,117
you know,
'cause there was a lot.
1053
01:00:20,492 --> 01:00:21,952
But she's a professional.
1054
01:00:22,035 --> 01:00:23,829
She'd get onstage,
you'd never know
1055
01:00:23,912 --> 01:00:25,413
anything was up...
1056
01:00:25,789 --> 01:00:27,124
ever.
1057
01:00:27,207 --> 01:00:28,834
- All right, five, six,
seven, eight.
1058
01:00:28,917 --> 01:00:30,335
♪ Bop, hey ♪
1059
01:00:30,418 --> 01:00:32,295
♪ I hear music in the ♪
1060
01:00:32,379 --> 01:00:34,464
all:
♪ I hear music ♪
1061
01:00:35,006 --> 01:00:37,134
- ♪ Then let me know ♪
1062
01:00:37,217 --> 01:00:40,679
♪ There's a party going down ♪
1063
01:00:40,762 --> 01:00:42,514
♪ Da-nah-nah-nah ♪
1064
01:00:42,597 --> 01:00:43,765
♪ Da-nah-nah-nah ♪
1065
01:00:43,849 --> 01:00:46,518
[singing percussion]
1066
01:00:46,601 --> 01:00:48,311
I was becoming stagnant.
1067
01:00:48,395 --> 01:00:50,272
I knew that there was
something else.
1068
01:00:50,355 --> 01:00:51,982
And I realized
I wasn't going anywhere.
1069
01:00:52,065 --> 01:00:53,650
I'd be in Las Vegas
all my life.
1070
01:00:53,733 --> 01:00:54,985
Five, six, seven, eight.
1071
01:00:55,068 --> 01:00:56,653
Take two, two, three, four...
1072
01:00:56,736 --> 01:00:59,114
I was ready to get out there.
1073
01:00:59,197 --> 01:01:00,657
This is fine,
what you got so far,
1074
01:01:00,740 --> 01:01:02,868
but it's not good enough.
1075
01:01:02,951 --> 01:01:04,661
Well, then the next question is,
1076
01:01:04,744 --> 01:01:06,872
but you'd have to get someone
to organize that.
1077
01:01:06,955 --> 01:01:10,000
That is when Roger came
into picture.
1078
01:01:11,418 --> 01:01:14,713
All: ♪ Somebody's gonna
hurt someone ♪
1079
01:01:15,547 --> 01:01:18,133
♪ Before the night is through ♪
1080
01:01:18,466 --> 01:01:20,427
♪ ♪
1081
01:01:20,510 --> 01:01:22,721
- Well, I was working
with Olivia Newton-John,
1082
01:01:22,804 --> 01:01:25,098
and we were doing
a television special
1083
01:01:25,182 --> 01:01:26,558
called "Hollywood Nights,"
1084
01:01:26,641 --> 01:01:29,519
and Olivia had this desire
to have
1085
01:01:29,603 --> 01:01:31,646
really strong female singers
back her
1086
01:01:31,730 --> 01:01:33,273
in one or two songs.
1087
01:01:33,356 --> 01:01:35,150
- ♪ If it takes all night ♪
1088
01:01:35,483 --> 01:01:37,819
- We had a list of people
we asked.
1089
01:01:37,903 --> 01:01:39,863
Toni Tennille,
Captain and Tennille,
1090
01:01:39,946 --> 01:01:41,781
I think Peaches was in it,
1091
01:01:41,865 --> 01:01:43,408
Tina Turner.
1092
01:01:43,491 --> 01:01:45,410
And that's
when I first met Tina.
1093
01:01:46,286 --> 01:01:49,080
All: ♪ There's gonna be
a heartache tonight ♪
1094
01:01:49,372 --> 01:01:52,250
♪ A heartache tonight, I know ♪
1095
01:01:53,001 --> 01:01:54,127
- ♪ Yes, I know ♪
1096
01:01:54,628 --> 01:01:57,422
all: ♪ There's gonna be
a heartache tonight... ♪
1097
01:01:57,505 --> 01:01:59,090
- I remember when I walked in
to Roger's office,
1098
01:01:59,174 --> 01:02:00,425
he looked at me.
1099
01:02:00,967 --> 01:02:02,677
I will never forget that look.
1100
01:02:02,761 --> 01:02:04,095
It was in wonder.
1101
01:02:04,179 --> 01:02:05,889
Like, "How old is she?
1102
01:02:05,972 --> 01:02:08,350
What can I do with her?"
All of that.
1103
01:02:08,433 --> 01:02:10,769
And then I said,
"I simply want a manager.
1104
01:02:10,852 --> 01:02:12,437
"I don't know what to do.
I need to work.
1105
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:13,813
I want to work."
1106
01:02:13,897 --> 01:02:17,108
And then he said,
"I need to see what you do."
1107
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,737
And so I said, "Well,
I'm opening in San Francisco."
1108
01:02:20,820 --> 01:02:22,489
♪ Now you've heard my story ♪
1109
01:02:24,157 --> 01:02:26,534
♪ You heard every word I sang ♪
1110
01:02:27,244 --> 01:02:29,496
- They were doing
a two-week residency
1111
01:02:29,579 --> 01:02:31,831
at the Fairmont Hotel
in San Francisco,
1112
01:02:31,915 --> 01:02:33,083
two shows a night.
1113
01:02:33,166 --> 01:02:35,001
- ♪ Fahrenheit or centigrade ♪
1114
01:02:35,085 --> 01:02:36,878
♪ They give us fever ♪
1115
01:02:37,087 --> 01:02:39,631
[cheers and applause]
1116
01:02:39,714 --> 01:02:41,258
- The first show was supper.
1117
01:02:41,341 --> 01:02:42,634
You know,
everyone eating dinner,
1118
01:02:42,717 --> 01:02:44,761
and I'm, like, going, "Christ,"
you know...
1119
01:02:44,844 --> 01:02:46,346
- ♪ Fever ♪
1120
01:02:46,429 --> 01:02:47,639
- It was very cabaret,
1121
01:02:47,722 --> 01:02:49,391
and they did
a lot of cover versions.
1122
01:02:49,474 --> 01:02:52,602
I didn't react that excited...
[laughs]
1123
01:02:52,727 --> 01:02:54,688
'Cause I didn't think
I could do anything with her.
1124
01:02:54,771 --> 01:02:56,481
- ♪ ...lovely way to burn ♪
1125
01:02:57,482 --> 01:02:59,901
♪ Oh, what a lovely way
to burn ♪
1126
01:02:59,985 --> 01:03:01,778
[energetic rock music]
1127
01:03:01,861 --> 01:03:04,739
[cheers and applause]
1128
01:03:04,823 --> 01:03:07,200
♪ ♪
1129
01:03:07,534 --> 01:03:09,160
♪ Burn, baby, burn ♪
1130
01:03:09,452 --> 01:03:10,578
♪ Choo! ♪
1131
01:03:10,662 --> 01:03:12,372
♪ Burn, baby, burn... ♪
1132
01:03:13,290 --> 01:03:15,125
- Anyway, we stayed
for the second show,
1133
01:03:15,208 --> 01:03:17,711
and the second show being,
like, a 9:00 show,
1134
01:03:17,794 --> 01:03:20,630
it was people had some drinks,
they were standing on tables,
1135
01:03:20,714 --> 01:03:22,340
and Tina was just working
the audience,
1136
01:03:22,424 --> 01:03:23,967
and I went, "Wow.
1137
01:03:24,217 --> 01:03:26,094
What a great
live performance."
1138
01:03:26,469 --> 01:03:28,555
- ♪ People getting loose now ♪
1139
01:03:28,930 --> 01:03:31,558
♪ Getting down on the roof ♪
1140
01:03:33,268 --> 01:03:34,769
♪ I was screaming ♪
1141
01:03:36,271 --> 01:03:37,981
♪ Out of control ♪
1142
01:03:38,064 --> 01:03:41,067
[soft dreamy music]
1143
01:03:41,151 --> 01:03:45,322
♪ ♪
1144
01:03:45,613 --> 01:03:47,574
- You know
when you meet an artist
1145
01:03:47,657 --> 01:03:49,242
if they have got something
that grabs you,
1146
01:03:49,326 --> 01:03:51,077
and, obviously, it did to me,
1147
01:03:51,161 --> 01:03:53,079
and she was also
incredibly determined.
1148
01:03:54,497 --> 01:03:56,583
- Roger said to me,
"What do you want?"
1149
01:03:58,626 --> 01:04:00,045
I had a dream.
1150
01:04:00,128 --> 01:04:03,298
My dream is to be the first
Black rock and roll singer
1151
01:04:03,381 --> 01:04:05,633
to pack places like the Stones
1152
01:04:05,717 --> 01:04:07,218
or those people
that are packing
1153
01:04:07,302 --> 01:04:08,553
those kind of places,
you know?
1154
01:04:08,636 --> 01:04:10,138
- "I want to fill
the rock stadiums, Rog
1155
01:04:10,180 --> 01:04:11,389
like Mick and Keith."
1156
01:04:11,473 --> 01:04:13,224
I said, "Yep,
that's what we're gonna do."
1157
01:04:13,308 --> 01:04:14,768
I had no idea
if we were gonna do it,
1158
01:04:14,851 --> 01:04:17,479
'cause there weren't
any female rock artists
1159
01:04:17,562 --> 01:04:19,606
in the world
selling out football stadiums.
1160
01:04:19,689 --> 01:04:21,483
[cheers and applause]
1161
01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:24,611
- Tina's problem,
after leaving the Ike orbit,
1162
01:04:24,694 --> 01:04:25,904
was now she's on her own.
1163
01:04:25,987 --> 01:04:28,031
She's just Tina Turner,
but who is that?
1164
01:04:28,281 --> 01:04:30,283
♪ ♪
1165
01:04:30,367 --> 01:04:32,202
She is, by this point,
1166
01:04:32,535 --> 01:04:34,079
older than
your average pop star.
1167
01:04:34,162 --> 01:04:35,663
She's a middle-aged woman.
1168
01:04:35,747 --> 01:04:37,999
Is she R&B?
Was it disco?
1169
01:04:38,083 --> 01:04:39,667
Wasn't she doing that
recently?
1170
01:04:39,751 --> 01:04:42,003
It was very unclear.
Her image was unclear.
1171
01:04:42,379 --> 01:04:44,589
- When Tina said,
"I'd like you to manage me,"
1172
01:04:44,672 --> 01:04:46,049
I immediately thought,
1173
01:04:46,132 --> 01:04:47,967
"Well, I've got to get her
a record deal,
1174
01:04:48,051 --> 01:04:49,719
"we've got to change the image
1175
01:04:49,803 --> 01:04:51,805
"so people
at record companies know
1176
01:04:51,888 --> 01:04:54,641
"that you're not
just a Vegas cabaret act.
1177
01:04:54,724 --> 01:04:56,267
We're gonna make it current."
1178
01:04:56,393 --> 01:04:58,478
I said, "We're gonna have
to make a rock show."
1179
01:04:58,561 --> 01:04:59,854
[opening rock notes]
1180
01:05:00,230 --> 01:05:01,356
[crowd cheering]
1181
01:05:01,689 --> 01:05:05,568
♪ ♪
1182
01:05:05,652 --> 01:05:08,154
- I was ready for change.
I was ready for that.
1183
01:05:08,405 --> 01:05:10,907
[crowd cheering]
1184
01:05:11,491 --> 01:05:13,284
But first of all,
the long hair
1185
01:05:13,368 --> 01:05:16,746
was a look that I used
for Ike and Tina,
1186
01:05:16,830 --> 01:05:18,415
so I cut the hair.
1187
01:05:19,666 --> 01:05:21,835
That was a change immediately.
1188
01:05:23,878 --> 01:05:26,005
Then the Bob Mackie
clothes went.
1189
01:05:26,089 --> 01:05:28,633
♪ ♪
1190
01:05:28,716 --> 01:05:30,593
Pulled out some of my
rock and roll dresses,
1191
01:05:30,677 --> 01:05:31,886
the shorter ones.
1192
01:05:32,470 --> 01:05:35,306
And I went to work.
- Five, six, seven, eight...
1193
01:05:35,390 --> 01:05:38,435
["Foolish Behavior
(Kill His Wife)" playing]
1194
01:05:38,518 --> 01:05:39,978
- Ladies and gentlemen...
1195
01:05:41,938 --> 01:05:42,981
Tina Turner!
1196
01:05:43,064 --> 01:05:47,610
[cheers and applause]
1197
01:05:47,694 --> 01:05:51,865
♪ ♪
1198
01:05:51,948 --> 01:05:54,159
- ♪ Can I introduce myself? ♪
1199
01:05:55,034 --> 01:05:57,537
♪ I'm a gal
of financial wealth ♪
1200
01:05:58,246 --> 01:06:00,957
♪ Sound in mind,
body, soul, and health ♪
1201
01:06:01,458 --> 01:06:05,420
♪ Oh, and I want
to kill his wife ♪
1202
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,339
♪ I have this urge
to take her life... ♪
1203
01:06:08,423 --> 01:06:10,467
- We hired a young band.
1204
01:06:10,592 --> 01:06:12,760
We didn't really
have any money.
1205
01:06:12,844 --> 01:06:15,096
So Tina, who always knew
1206
01:06:15,180 --> 01:06:17,056
what she wanted them
to look like,
1207
01:06:17,140 --> 01:06:19,559
said, "We'll put them
in black karate suits."
1208
01:06:19,976 --> 01:06:21,394
The band hated it.
[laughs]
1209
01:06:21,478 --> 01:06:23,897
The musicians were like,
"Why do we have to wear this?"
1210
01:06:23,980 --> 01:06:25,982
I said, "You know, you each
get a different color belt."
1211
01:06:26,065 --> 01:06:29,694
- ♪ She'll escape
down into Mexico... ♪
1212
01:06:29,777 --> 01:06:31,613
- We looked
a little bit shabby,
1213
01:06:31,654 --> 01:06:34,073
but that's what rock and roll
is... it's shabby.
1214
01:06:34,824 --> 01:06:36,826
- She wanted two girls
1215
01:06:36,951 --> 01:06:39,829
to get away, I think,
from that Ikette thing.
1216
01:06:39,913 --> 01:06:41,831
- ♪ Should I act quite cold
and deliberate? ♪
1217
01:06:41,915 --> 01:06:45,627
- She was reinventing herself
as Tina Turner.
1218
01:06:45,710 --> 01:06:47,337
- ♪ And they'll all say
suicide ♪
1219
01:06:47,420 --> 01:06:48,922
♪ They won't know
who done it... ♪
1220
01:06:49,005 --> 01:06:50,632
That was the beginning
of me taking control
1221
01:06:50,715 --> 01:06:52,425
of my performance.
1222
01:06:53,009 --> 01:06:54,928
I was my own boss.
1223
01:06:55,053 --> 01:06:56,846
♪ I really want to
take her life ♪
1224
01:06:57,472 --> 01:07:00,683
- ♪ She'll escape
down into Mexico ♪
1225
01:07:00,767 --> 01:07:03,603
- ♪ Baby, into Mexico ♪
1226
01:07:03,686 --> 01:07:05,230
- ♪ Sell the house ♪
1227
01:07:05,313 --> 01:07:07,607
♪ And find
a nice young beau ♪
1228
01:07:08,066 --> 01:07:10,443
- ♪ Find a nice young beau ♪
1229
01:07:10,527 --> 01:07:12,111
- ♪ With long black hair ♪
1230
01:07:12,195 --> 01:07:14,572
- ♪ And I won't work no more ♪
1231
01:07:14,656 --> 01:07:15,532
♪ Ha ♪
1232
01:07:15,865 --> 01:07:17,408
♪ Ha ha ha ha ha ♪
1233
01:07:18,409 --> 01:07:20,870
♪ Ooh ooh ooh ♪
1234
01:07:21,204 --> 01:07:22,789
♪ Ya ya ya ya ♪
1235
01:07:22,872 --> 01:07:24,207
♪ Ya ya ya ya ♪
1236
01:07:24,290 --> 01:07:26,876
[cheers and applause]
1237
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,003
So immediately
we changed the show.
1238
01:07:29,087 --> 01:07:30,964
Reviews were great.
Everything was going well.
1239
01:07:31,047 --> 01:07:33,424
And then we started working
to try to get a record deal.
1240
01:07:33,508 --> 01:07:35,176
Nobody would touch Tina Turner.
1241
01:07:35,927 --> 01:07:37,929
- When I first started
1242
01:07:38,012 --> 01:07:41,015
trying to look for a deal
with Tina,
1243
01:07:41,641 --> 01:07:44,143
the general feeling was "Is
she still with that guy Ike?"
1244
01:07:44,227 --> 01:07:46,312
No one had any idea.
1245
01:07:46,396 --> 01:07:49,399
Tina needed to be exposed as...
she's a solo artist.
1246
01:07:49,482 --> 01:07:51,359
She's not associated with Ike.
1247
01:07:52,277 --> 01:07:54,237
- Roger came to me,
1248
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,907
asking me if I would be
willing to give the story
1249
01:07:57,991 --> 01:07:59,075
to the press,
1250
01:07:59,325 --> 01:08:01,744
and I was afraid to...
1251
01:08:02,912 --> 01:08:04,956
put it out because of...
1252
01:08:05,415 --> 01:08:07,584
what I might receive from Ike.
1253
01:08:17,093 --> 01:08:19,053
- I didn't really know
too much about
1254
01:08:19,137 --> 01:08:21,556
the backstory,
and nobody knew
1255
01:08:21,639 --> 01:08:24,267
about the traumas
that she went through.
1256
01:08:24,642 --> 01:08:27,895
You know, I just was looking
for a simple comeback story.
1257
01:08:27,979 --> 01:08:29,772
Little did I know, you know,
1258
01:08:29,856 --> 01:08:32,900
there was this whole legend
that came about.
1259
01:08:36,404 --> 01:08:38,489
- I didn't know
what to expect.
1260
01:08:38,573 --> 01:08:40,658
[camera shutter clicking]
1261
01:08:40,742 --> 01:08:42,910
I wanted to stop people
from...
1262
01:08:42,994 --> 01:08:45,413
thinking that Ike and Tina
was so positive.
1263
01:08:45,496 --> 01:08:47,332
I mean, it was... it was...
1264
01:08:47,415 --> 01:08:50,543
that we were such a love team
or a great team,
1265
01:08:50,627 --> 01:08:52,420
and it wasn't like that.
1266
01:08:52,795 --> 01:08:55,298
So I thought, if nothing else,
1267
01:08:55,381 --> 01:08:57,634
at least people would know.
1268
01:09:01,846 --> 01:09:03,389
- Tina Turner is a legend,
1269
01:09:03,473 --> 01:09:06,392
a major influence
on rock stars like Rod Stewart
1270
01:09:06,476 --> 01:09:07,685
and Mick Jagger.
1271
01:09:07,852 --> 01:09:10,271
Once, she was teamed
with her husband Ike.
1272
01:09:10,355 --> 01:09:11,898
Now she's on her own,
1273
01:09:11,981 --> 01:09:14,233
trying to establish herself
as a star once again.
1274
01:09:14,984 --> 01:09:16,819
- My life with Ike
1275
01:09:16,903 --> 01:09:19,822
was one that a lot of, maybe,
people are familiar with...
1276
01:09:19,906 --> 01:09:21,324
husbands that...
1277
01:09:21,407 --> 01:09:24,243
that practice brutality.
[laughs]
1278
01:09:24,327 --> 01:09:25,620
- Yeah?
- Yeah.
1279
01:09:26,287 --> 01:09:29,374
- Nobody talked
about sexual abuse,
1280
01:09:29,457 --> 01:09:31,959
physical abuse,
domestic abuse.
1281
01:09:32,043 --> 01:09:33,336
Abuse, period.
1282
01:09:33,961 --> 01:09:37,507
Our generation
is the generation
1283
01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:41,427
that started to break
the silence.
1284
01:09:41,511 --> 01:09:43,513
[stirring music]
1285
01:09:43,596 --> 01:09:46,516
- Tina... she couldn't
voice her own opinion.
1286
01:09:46,599 --> 01:09:48,685
Everything that she did
was Ike.
1287
01:09:49,018 --> 01:09:53,231
- The idea of Tina
as a presence on her own
1288
01:09:53,314 --> 01:09:56,609
and having escaped...
people loved that story.
1289
01:09:56,693 --> 01:10:00,029
They wanted to... you know,
here was somebody to root for.
1290
01:10:01,656 --> 01:10:03,074
- Once the word was out,
1291
01:10:03,157 --> 01:10:05,034
we met a guy called Carter,
1292
01:10:05,118 --> 01:10:08,371
John Carter, at Capitol,
who believed in her.
1293
01:10:08,705 --> 01:10:11,374
- I had always been interested
in artists
1294
01:10:11,457 --> 01:10:13,209
that no one else
was interested in.
1295
01:10:13,710 --> 01:10:16,087
Once a star, always a threat,
1296
01:10:16,170 --> 01:10:18,131
and that's the way
I felt about Tina.
1297
01:10:18,214 --> 01:10:19,924
- So you play that thing,
you're playing that,
1298
01:10:20,007 --> 01:10:21,467
and you're playing
that strum under me,
1299
01:10:21,551 --> 01:10:23,428
and we move downstage
with that.
1300
01:10:23,511 --> 01:10:25,138
Let's just get that right.
That's exactly what...
1301
01:10:25,221 --> 01:10:27,140
- Carter basically gave us
1302
01:10:27,223 --> 01:10:29,225
a development deal.
1303
01:10:29,726 --> 01:10:31,728
We tried probably
eight or ten tracks,
1304
01:10:31,811 --> 01:10:33,229
still trying to find our way.
1305
01:10:33,312 --> 01:10:34,856
We never got quite there.
1306
01:10:34,939 --> 01:10:36,691
- Stay under me there,
but just come down.
1307
01:10:36,774 --> 01:10:39,068
Keep the pulse under me.
Don't lose the...
1308
01:10:39,152 --> 01:10:40,778
- We record a few things,
1309
01:10:40,862 --> 01:10:43,614
and as much as Roger and I
would get enthusiastic
1310
01:10:43,698 --> 01:10:45,950
about a song here
and a song there,
1311
01:10:46,033 --> 01:10:49,370
it was never really the body
of work that we needed.
1312
01:10:51,581 --> 01:10:54,500
- And then one day,
Carter rang me up,
1313
01:10:54,584 --> 01:10:57,962
beside himself, because there'd
been a change of management
1314
01:10:58,045 --> 01:10:59,505
at Capitol Records.
1315
01:10:59,797 --> 01:11:02,049
And they'd been in a meeting,
and they'd been going through
1316
01:11:02,133 --> 01:11:04,761
the roster of artists,
I guess, and...
1317
01:11:04,969 --> 01:11:08,931
the new management didn't want
Tina on the label.
1318
01:11:09,015 --> 01:11:11,392
- The new regime comes in...
- Mm-hmm.
1319
01:11:11,476 --> 01:11:13,811
- And like any new regime,
1320
01:11:13,895 --> 01:11:16,189
they got their own idea
about what they want to do.
1321
01:11:16,272 --> 01:11:19,233
- Right.
- So I flip out.
1322
01:11:19,317 --> 01:11:23,905
I go downstairs, and I said,
"Hey, this is my act,"
1323
01:11:23,988 --> 01:11:26,282
and the classic quote is,
1324
01:11:26,699 --> 01:11:29,702
"Carter, you signed this
old nigger douchebag?"
1325
01:11:29,786 --> 01:11:31,913
- Whoa. Whoa.
- "Yeah.
1326
01:11:31,996 --> 01:11:34,165
"Yeah, I did, and I'm
really happy about it.
1327
01:11:34,248 --> 01:11:36,334
Now, pick up the phone
and call Roger Davies."
1328
01:11:36,417 --> 01:11:38,336
- Wow.
- He said, "No fuckin' way."
1329
01:11:38,669 --> 01:11:41,255
And I get on my knees,
and I said,
1330
01:11:41,339 --> 01:11:43,090
"I'm now gonna beg you,
1331
01:11:43,174 --> 01:11:46,469
and I'm not gonna get up
until you pick up the phone."
1332
01:11:46,969 --> 01:11:50,389
[chuckles]And there was
a long stare-down,
1333
01:11:51,015 --> 01:11:53,351
and he picks up the phone.
- Wow.
1334
01:11:53,810 --> 01:11:56,646
- Well, he says,
"Okay, back on the roster."
1335
01:11:56,729 --> 01:11:58,564
- Mm-hmm.
- "You finish your record.
1336
01:11:58,648 --> 01:12:01,442
"But you understand
that we're gonna do nothing!
1337
01:12:01,526 --> 01:12:03,236
That's all there is."
1338
01:12:05,154 --> 01:12:06,948
[somber music]
1339
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,742
♪ ♪
1340
01:12:27,593 --> 01:12:29,428
[laughing]
1341
01:12:29,679 --> 01:12:32,390
[somber music]
1342
01:12:32,598 --> 01:12:35,309
♪ ♪
1343
01:12:35,393 --> 01:12:37,270
I was held back
1344
01:12:38,145 --> 01:12:40,147
for a very long time...
1345
01:12:41,357 --> 01:12:43,317
but I didn't suffer
from those things,
1346
01:12:43,401 --> 01:12:45,570
and it's not necessary
to suffer about that
1347
01:12:45,653 --> 01:12:48,322
because what can you do
about it, you know?
1348
01:12:48,865 --> 01:12:50,741
So I didn't think
about those things.
1349
01:12:50,825 --> 01:12:53,327
♪ ♪
1350
01:12:53,452 --> 01:12:56,038
- She always had a belief
it was gonna be okay.
1351
01:12:56,122 --> 01:12:59,709
And I think you have to have
that belief to keep going.
1352
01:13:00,209 --> 01:13:04,672
♪ ♪
1353
01:13:04,964 --> 01:13:07,216
Radio, as you know,
in America
1354
01:13:07,300 --> 01:13:09,010
was very categorized,
and there's pop,
1355
01:13:09,093 --> 01:13:11,679
and there's R&B, there's urban,
and there's hot AC,
1356
01:13:11,762 --> 01:13:13,639
and she wanted to sing rock.
1357
01:13:13,931 --> 01:13:17,476
And that wasn't really
what they thought would work.
1358
01:13:18,144 --> 01:13:20,771
And that's when we knew
that it had to be England,
1359
01:13:20,855 --> 01:13:22,732
'cause England and Europe
got her.
1360
01:13:23,190 --> 01:13:25,443
[airplane engine roars]
1361
01:13:25,526 --> 01:13:28,654
[light music]
1362
01:13:28,738 --> 01:13:31,782
♪ ♪
1363
01:13:32,116 --> 01:13:33,910
- It was London.
1364
01:13:33,993 --> 01:13:37,580
It was another
whole experience
1365
01:13:38,122 --> 01:13:39,582
from America.
1366
01:13:39,957 --> 01:13:42,001
You know, it felt like home.
1367
01:13:42,084 --> 01:13:44,295
It felt so comfortable
1368
01:13:44,378 --> 01:13:46,964
that I could have been there
all my life.
1369
01:13:47,048 --> 01:13:49,675
♪ ♪
1370
01:13:49,759 --> 01:13:52,887
Well, I didn't have
that many friends in America
1371
01:13:52,970 --> 01:13:55,264
because, of course, Ike.
1372
01:13:55,348 --> 01:13:57,767
And then when I left Ike,
1373
01:13:58,601 --> 01:14:01,437
immediately I went to work.
1374
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,940
♪ ♪
1375
01:14:04,023 --> 01:14:06,776
My sons were at home.
They were fine.
1376
01:14:07,526 --> 01:14:09,612
My oldest was 28.
1377
01:14:10,071 --> 01:14:12,657
My youngest was moving
well into his middle 20s.
1378
01:14:12,740 --> 01:14:14,367
So not really kids anymore.
1379
01:14:15,451 --> 01:14:17,411
I left everything
and everybody behind.
1380
01:14:17,745 --> 01:14:20,122
I needed every minute
of my brains
1381
01:14:20,831 --> 01:14:22,750
to map my life together.
1382
01:14:22,833 --> 01:14:24,794
Fellas, do you know
what we're doing today?
1383
01:14:24,877 --> 01:14:26,963
- It's almost like
she had a coming of age
1384
01:14:27,046 --> 01:14:29,048
at 40 years old...
1385
01:14:29,131 --> 01:14:31,217
the fact
that she has this voice,
1386
01:14:31,300 --> 01:14:33,427
this incredible,
incredible voice,
1387
01:14:33,761 --> 01:14:36,013
I would say the industry
didn't even really know
1388
01:14:36,097 --> 01:14:37,390
what to do with.
1389
01:14:38,724 --> 01:14:41,185
- Roger could see
what could be done
1390
01:14:41,268 --> 01:14:42,937
when other people
couldn't imagine
1391
01:14:43,020 --> 01:14:44,271
what it could become.
1392
01:14:44,355 --> 01:14:45,606
So there's this new
1393
01:14:45,690 --> 01:14:47,733
kind of production technique
in England.
1394
01:14:47,817 --> 01:14:50,361
There are these new people
that are getting new sounds,
1395
01:14:50,444 --> 01:14:52,113
and you should be
part of that.
1396
01:14:52,196 --> 01:14:54,407
♪ ♪
1397
01:14:54,490 --> 01:14:56,075
- I was collecting songs.
1398
01:14:56,158 --> 01:14:57,785
I used to carry around
this leather bag
1399
01:14:57,868 --> 01:15:00,413
full of cassettes
and asking a bunch of people
1400
01:15:00,496 --> 01:15:02,289
and, you know, Terry Britten,
1401
01:15:02,373 --> 01:15:04,291
he was a bit of
a hero of mine,
1402
01:15:04,375 --> 01:15:07,586
and he had songs
I think might work for Tina.
1403
01:15:08,462 --> 01:15:09,547
- Roger's tea.
1404
01:15:10,297 --> 01:15:13,175
[opening notes of "What's Love
Got To Do With It?" play]
1405
01:15:13,259 --> 01:15:14,927
- "What's Love" is probably
the worst demo
1406
01:15:15,011 --> 01:15:16,971
I've ever done to this date.
1407
01:15:17,054 --> 01:15:19,515
I mean, there's no, uh...
1408
01:15:19,598 --> 01:15:21,267
bee-doo-bee-doo...
none of that stuff.
1409
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:23,978
Very white, very pop,
1410
01:15:24,061 --> 01:15:28,357
and nothing remotely
would say "Tina Turner."
1411
01:15:29,692 --> 01:15:31,277
Originally, it did go
1412
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,779
to an English band
called Bucks Fizz,
1413
01:15:33,904 --> 01:15:35,990
who were really popular
at the time,
1414
01:15:36,073 --> 01:15:37,825
and I think they actually
recorded it.
1415
01:15:37,908 --> 01:15:40,327
- ♪ Oh, oh, oh, what's love ♪
1416
01:15:40,661 --> 01:15:43,289
♪ Got to do,
got to do with it? ♪
1417
01:15:44,165 --> 01:15:48,127
♪ What's love
but a second-hand emotion? ♪
1418
01:15:48,961 --> 01:15:52,048
- I was convinced.
I thought "What's Love" was...
1419
01:15:52,339 --> 01:15:54,050
It could be a big song.
1420
01:15:54,842 --> 01:15:56,635
Tina never really liked it.
1421
01:15:56,969 --> 01:15:59,388
- [laughs] It was terrible.
It was awful.
1422
01:15:59,472 --> 01:16:01,140
It was...
1423
01:16:01,223 --> 01:16:03,309
I was rock and roll.
1424
01:16:03,392 --> 01:16:04,977
I was not...
1425
01:16:05,478 --> 01:16:07,188
That was a pop song.
1426
01:16:08,147 --> 01:16:10,274
So Roger says, "All right,
all right, all right.
1427
01:16:10,357 --> 01:16:12,109
"Just one thing...
you got to meet Terry Britten.
1428
01:16:12,193 --> 01:16:13,861
"You got to meet him,
'cause he's a great writer,
1429
01:16:13,944 --> 01:16:15,446
and maybe he can make some
adjustments or whatever,"
1430
01:16:15,529 --> 01:16:16,697
and I went, "All right."
1431
01:16:16,781 --> 01:16:18,699
♪ ♪
1432
01:16:18,783 --> 01:16:21,494
We walked in, and I didn't
know what to expect.
1433
01:16:21,619 --> 01:16:23,454
And Terry was like
a little leprechaun.
1434
01:16:23,537 --> 01:16:25,289
I mean, he's very short.
1435
01:16:25,372 --> 01:16:27,249
He was sitting there,
and his legs were hanging.
1436
01:16:27,333 --> 01:16:29,710
[laughs] Something
about his legs hanging
1437
01:16:29,794 --> 01:16:30,920
that I remember.
1438
01:16:31,003 --> 01:16:33,089
- She came in,
and immediately she said,
1439
01:16:33,172 --> 01:16:34,757
"Well, you know
I don't like that song,
1440
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:36,592
"and I don't want to do
that song.
1441
01:16:36,675 --> 01:16:38,344
It's Roger
that wants me to do it."
1442
01:16:38,677 --> 01:16:40,930
I said, "Well, you know,
if it doesn't work out,
1443
01:16:41,013 --> 01:16:43,140
you won't use it,
so let's give it a go."
1444
01:16:44,475 --> 01:16:47,353
[opening notes of "What's Love
Got To Do With it" playing]
1445
01:16:47,436 --> 01:16:50,314
- I had to find a way to sing
the song, so he would say,
1446
01:16:50,397 --> 01:16:53,109
"Tina, sing this
how you would sing it."
1447
01:16:53,192 --> 01:16:54,443
So, okay.
1448
01:16:54,652 --> 01:16:58,197
Then I applied
my heavy voice to it, and...
1449
01:16:58,864 --> 01:17:00,157
♪ Makes my pulse react ♪
1450
01:17:00,241 --> 01:17:01,992
- She was trying to get
her head around it,
1451
01:17:02,076 --> 01:17:04,328
how's this little...
doop-dih-dih-dih work
1452
01:17:04,411 --> 01:17:05,913
sort of thing,
1453
01:17:05,996 --> 01:17:09,125
and I said to her,
"Tina, this is a jog."
1454
01:17:09,458 --> 01:17:12,670
And we both stood and jogged.
1455
01:17:12,753 --> 01:17:15,923
And she was singing loud,
and I went, "Quieter, quiet..."
1456
01:17:16,006 --> 01:17:18,884
She said, "If I go any quieter,
I'll be whispering."
1457
01:17:18,968 --> 01:17:22,054
I said, "Yeah, that's it,"
and we start to jog on this.
1458
01:17:22,138 --> 01:17:25,516
Suddenly she went, "I got it,
I got it, I got it."
1459
01:17:25,599 --> 01:17:28,185
- ♪ Oh, oh, oh, what's love ♪
1460
01:17:28,269 --> 01:17:31,021
♪ Got to do,
got to do with it? ♪
1461
01:17:31,897 --> 01:17:36,610
♪ What's love
but a second-hand emotion? ♪
1462
01:17:36,694 --> 01:17:39,113
♪ What's love got to do ♪
1463
01:17:39,196 --> 01:17:40,948
♪ Got to do with it? ♪
1464
01:17:41,031 --> 01:17:42,783
♪ Who needs a heart ♪
1465
01:17:42,867 --> 01:17:45,661
♪ When a heart
can be broken? ♪
1466
01:17:46,036 --> 01:17:48,747
- I was stunned afterwards,
after the session.
1467
01:17:49,415 --> 01:17:51,792
- They weren't used to
a strong voice
1468
01:17:51,876 --> 01:17:53,419
standing on top of music.
1469
01:17:53,586 --> 01:17:56,255
But I converted it
and made it my own.
1470
01:17:56,338 --> 01:18:00,134
♪ If I tend to look dazed,
I read it some place ♪
1471
01:18:00,217 --> 01:18:02,511
♪ I've got cause to be ♪
1472
01:18:02,595 --> 01:18:05,181
♪ There's a name for it ♪
1473
01:18:05,472 --> 01:18:07,349
- She said, "You know what?
People are gonna say,
1474
01:18:07,433 --> 01:18:08,976
"'This is a Tina Turner song.
1475
01:18:09,059 --> 01:18:11,270
"'It's not Tina doing a cover.
1476
01:18:11,896 --> 01:18:13,314
This is Tina Turner's song."'
1477
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,859
- ♪ But whatever the reason,
you do it for me ♪
1478
01:18:16,942 --> 01:18:19,695
♪ Oh, oh, oh, what's love ♪
1479
01:18:19,778 --> 01:18:21,780
♪ Got to do,
got to do with it? ♪
1480
01:18:21,864 --> 01:18:24,408
I knocked that album out
in two weeks in the studio.
1481
01:18:24,950 --> 01:18:26,994
Done. Finished.
1482
01:18:27,870 --> 01:18:30,247
- We just went
from studio to studio,
1483
01:18:30,331 --> 01:18:32,666
and, literally, two or three
weeks, the album was done.
1484
01:18:32,750 --> 01:18:35,377
We turned up with an album
that sold 20 million copies.
1485
01:18:35,461 --> 01:18:37,463
- ♪ ...can be broken? ♪
1486
01:18:37,838 --> 01:18:40,090
- When the album was out
and we were in New York
1487
01:18:40,174 --> 01:18:43,385
at Tower Records
doing a record signing,
1488
01:18:43,552 --> 01:18:46,472
and I got the call
from our record company
1489
01:18:46,555 --> 01:18:49,350
that "What's Love" had gone
to number one on "Billboard."
1490
01:18:49,725 --> 01:18:51,644
- In Tower Record?
- This was in Tower Records.
1491
01:18:51,727 --> 01:18:53,270
And I just jumped up,
and I said to everybody,
1492
01:18:53,354 --> 01:18:55,439
"It's number one,"
and they all started cheering.
1493
01:18:55,522 --> 01:18:57,691
It was wonderful.
- You know when you said that,
1494
01:18:57,775 --> 01:18:59,318
I honestly have to tell you...
I know it's gonna
1495
01:18:59,401 --> 01:19:01,445
sound real corny, but I mean
it... when I saw you say that
1496
01:19:01,528 --> 01:19:03,030
last night that this
went number one today,
1497
01:19:03,113 --> 01:19:04,782
I just, like,
burst into tears,
1498
01:19:04,865 --> 01:19:07,201
because to me, it was like,
1499
01:19:07,284 --> 01:19:09,328
there is some justice
after all.
1500
01:19:09,411 --> 01:19:11,121
I don't know if you feel
that way about it,
1501
01:19:11,205 --> 01:19:13,791
but it was very moving.
- Oh, number one.
1502
01:19:14,583 --> 01:19:17,211
♪ Oh, oh, oh, what's love ♪
1503
01:19:17,294 --> 01:19:19,797
♪ Got to do,
got to do with it? ♪
1504
01:19:20,839 --> 01:19:22,383
♪ What's love ♪
1505
01:19:22,466 --> 01:19:25,052
♪ But a second-hand emotion? ♪
1506
01:19:25,594 --> 01:19:27,972
♪ What's love got to do ♪
1507
01:19:28,055 --> 01:19:29,473
♪ Got to do with it? ♪
1508
01:19:29,807 --> 01:19:31,976
♪ Who needs a heart ♪
1509
01:19:32,059 --> 01:19:34,144
♪ When a heart can be broken? ♪
1510
01:19:34,228 --> 01:19:36,563
Crowd:
♪ What's love got to do ♪
1511
01:19:36,647 --> 01:19:39,108
- ♪ Ooh, ooh ♪
- And the record of the year
1512
01:19:39,149 --> 01:19:41,485
is, "What's Love Got To
Do With It"... Tina Turner!
1513
01:19:41,568 --> 01:19:44,738
[cheers and applause]
1514
01:19:54,081 --> 01:19:56,625
- My goodness, this has been
a wonderful evening.
1515
01:19:56,709 --> 01:19:59,128
I'd like to take this award
1516
01:19:59,962 --> 01:20:02,589
and give it to someone
that's been
1517
01:20:02,673 --> 01:20:05,050
wonderful to me as a friend
1518
01:20:05,259 --> 01:20:07,886
and in business
and in many ways...
1519
01:20:07,970 --> 01:20:09,763
my manager, Roger Davies.
1520
01:20:09,847 --> 01:20:12,891
It's been a wonderful year.
[applause]
1521
01:20:13,309 --> 01:20:15,477
- [mouthing words]
1522
01:20:16,145 --> 01:20:17,855
- My "Private Dancer" album...
1523
01:20:17,938 --> 01:20:19,940
no, I don't consider it
a comeback album.
1524
01:20:20,024 --> 01:20:22,359
Tina had never arrived.
1525
01:20:22,443 --> 01:20:25,195
It was Tina's debut
for the first time,
1526
01:20:25,279 --> 01:20:27,114
and this was my first album.
1527
01:20:27,656 --> 01:20:29,325
- Tina Turner!
1528
01:20:30,326 --> 01:20:32,411
- Tina Turner!
1529
01:20:32,661 --> 01:20:36,457
[uplifting music]
1530
01:20:36,874 --> 01:20:38,709
- They'd reached
a stage where,
1531
01:20:38,792 --> 01:20:41,962
after "Private Dancer,"
it was unbelievably big.
1532
01:20:42,963 --> 01:20:45,090
It was a runaway train.
1533
01:20:45,841 --> 01:20:49,094
- When you're hot, you're hot,
and this lady is the hottest.
1534
01:20:49,178 --> 01:20:50,721
Here's...
- Tina Turner!
1535
01:20:50,804 --> 01:20:53,390
[cheers and applause]
1536
01:20:53,515 --> 01:20:55,142
- I had my boyfriend
standing in line
1537
01:20:55,184 --> 01:20:56,685
since 3 in the morning
to get these tickets.
1538
01:20:56,727 --> 01:20:58,020
I says, "That's it,
the relationship's over
1539
01:20:58,103 --> 01:20:59,730
unless you get me
these tickets."
1540
01:20:59,813 --> 01:21:01,523
- And if she isn't sexy,
I don't know who is.
1541
01:21:01,607 --> 01:21:03,734
- [speaking Italian]
Tina Turner.
1542
01:21:03,817 --> 01:21:05,194
- Stupenda, stupenda.
1543
01:21:05,277 --> 01:21:08,655
[speaking Italian]
1544
01:21:08,739 --> 01:21:12,034
- [speaking German]
Tina Turner.
1545
01:21:12,743 --> 01:21:14,870
- On "Private Dancer,"
I think we ended up doing
1546
01:21:14,953 --> 01:21:16,622
150 concerts.
1547
01:21:16,705 --> 01:21:19,083
[stirring music]
1548
01:21:19,166 --> 01:21:21,251
And then we went on
to break every rule.
1549
01:21:23,337 --> 01:21:26,048
On that album, we did the
biggest tour we've ever done.
1550
01:21:26,465 --> 01:21:29,676
We played 230 shows
in 18 months
1551
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:31,303
everywhere in the world.
1552
01:21:32,012 --> 01:21:34,431
♪ ♪
1553
01:21:34,598 --> 01:21:38,602
This 50-year-old woman
playing stadiums
1554
01:21:38,685 --> 01:21:40,854
throughout Europe
and having an audience
1555
01:21:40,938 --> 01:21:44,066
ranging from about 15 to 60
was pretty amazing.
1556
01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:45,943
- She makes you
feel young.
1557
01:21:46,026 --> 01:21:47,653
She's alive.
She's bouncing.
1558
01:21:47,778 --> 01:21:49,321
I can't wait for them
to come back.
1559
01:21:50,906 --> 01:21:53,534
- When I'm onstage
and it's, like, 20,000 people,
1560
01:21:53,617 --> 01:21:55,869
then you know that
it's all worthwhile, you know?
1561
01:21:55,953 --> 01:21:58,080
But it's really a lot
that goes on behind the scenes
1562
01:21:58,163 --> 01:21:59,456
when... I've never
been this big before,
1563
01:21:59,540 --> 01:22:00,958
you know what I mean?
And you...
1564
01:22:01,041 --> 01:22:02,960
Ah, it's just incredible.
1565
01:22:03,377 --> 01:22:04,670
- We didn't stop.
1566
01:22:05,087 --> 01:22:07,714
We played the small holes.
We played the clubs.
1567
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,259
We did all the TVs.
We got to arenas.
1568
01:22:10,342 --> 01:22:11,844
We eventually
fulfilled her dream
1569
01:22:11,927 --> 01:22:13,846
and filled the stadiums.
1570
01:22:14,388 --> 01:22:16,598
That concert in Rio,
1571
01:22:16,765 --> 01:22:18,976
there was
186,000 people there.
1572
01:22:19,226 --> 01:22:21,145
[cheers and applause]
1573
01:22:21,228 --> 01:22:24,148
Crowd: Tina, Tina, Tina,
Tina, Tina, Tina!
1574
01:22:24,231 --> 01:22:25,941
- Hello, Rio!
1575
01:22:26,024 --> 01:22:28,277
[cheers and applause]
1576
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:29,611
Give it to me!
1577
01:22:29,695 --> 01:22:30,988
Hello, Rio!
1578
01:22:31,071 --> 01:22:34,116
[cheers and applause]
1579
01:22:34,199 --> 01:22:36,243
Mwah! Mwah! Mwah!
1580
01:22:37,578 --> 01:22:39,288
You can't imagine
what it was like for me
1581
01:22:39,371 --> 01:22:41,331
to finally stand there in
front of all of those people.
1582
01:22:41,415 --> 01:22:43,417
It's a feeling of like,
"I did it,"
1583
01:22:43,500 --> 01:22:45,461
and it's really genuine.
1584
01:22:45,544 --> 01:22:47,963
It's almost like magic,
because you're standing there
1585
01:22:48,046 --> 01:22:50,132
and they're really
giving you love.
1586
01:22:50,841 --> 01:22:52,301
Are you ready?
1587
01:22:52,384 --> 01:22:54,720
[crowd cheers]
- Are you ready for me?
1588
01:22:54,803 --> 01:22:56,388
[crowd cheers]
1589
01:22:56,472 --> 01:22:58,682
I'm ready for you.
Hello!
1590
01:22:58,765 --> 01:23:01,268
["I Can't Stand the Rain"
playing]
1591
01:23:01,435 --> 01:23:05,814
♪ ♪
1592
01:23:18,827 --> 01:23:20,120
♪ I ♪
1593
01:23:20,204 --> 01:23:23,081
♪ I can't stand the rain ♪
1594
01:23:23,665 --> 01:23:25,751
♪ Against my window ♪
1595
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,547
♪ Bringing back
sweet memories ♪
1596
01:23:31,089 --> 01:23:33,425
♪ I can't stand the rain ♪
1597
01:23:33,509 --> 01:23:35,219
♪ Do you remember ♪
1598
01:23:35,928 --> 01:23:37,346
♪ Uh-huh ♪
1599
01:23:37,846 --> 01:23:39,681
♪ How sweet it used to be? ♪
1600
01:23:40,849 --> 01:23:42,935
♪ ♪
1601
01:23:43,519 --> 01:23:45,979
♪ When we were together ♪
1602
01:23:46,063 --> 01:23:47,898
♪ ♪
1603
01:23:48,357 --> 01:23:51,360
♪ Everything was so grand ♪
1604
01:23:51,443 --> 01:23:53,529
♪ ♪
1605
01:23:54,071 --> 01:23:56,698
♪ Now that we've parted ♪
1606
01:23:57,616 --> 01:23:59,952
♪ There's the one sound ♪
- ♪ One sound ♪
1607
01:24:00,452 --> 01:24:02,120
- ♪ Just can't stand ♪
1608
01:24:02,496 --> 01:24:04,289
♪ Can't stand the rain ♪
1609
01:24:05,415 --> 01:24:07,167
♪ Against my window ♪
1610
01:24:07,417 --> 01:24:09,628
♪ ♪
1611
01:24:09,795 --> 01:24:11,797
♪ Bringing back
sweet memories ♪
1612
01:24:12,756 --> 01:24:14,466
♪ I can't stand the rain ♪
1613
01:24:16,093 --> 01:24:18,011
♪ Against my window ♪
1614
01:24:18,095 --> 01:24:20,389
♪ ♪
1615
01:24:20,472 --> 01:24:22,266
♪ If he ain't here
with me ♪
1616
01:24:23,392 --> 01:24:24,560
♪ Well ♪
1617
01:24:25,894 --> 01:24:28,981
♪ When we were younger ♪
1618
01:24:29,064 --> 01:24:31,024
- ♪ We were younger ♪
1619
01:24:31,108 --> 01:24:33,860
- ♪ Everything was so grand ♪
1620
01:24:33,944 --> 01:24:35,529
- ♪ Oh ♪
1621
01:24:36,446 --> 01:24:37,614
- ♪ Ah ♪
1622
01:24:37,948 --> 01:24:40,033
♪ Bringing back
them sweet memories ♪
1623
01:24:40,659 --> 01:24:42,244
♪ One sound ♪
- ♪ One sound ♪
1624
01:24:42,327 --> 01:24:44,913
- ♪ I just can't stand ♪
1625
01:24:44,997 --> 01:24:46,832
♪ Rain ♪
- ♪ Rain ♪
1626
01:24:47,583 --> 01:24:49,543
- ♪ Rain ♪
- ♪ Rain ♪
1627
01:24:50,085 --> 01:24:51,795
- ♪ Rain ♪
- ♪ Rain ♪
1628
01:24:52,838 --> 01:24:55,090
- ♪ Rain ♪
- ♪ Whoo-hoo ♪
1629
01:24:55,173 --> 01:24:57,593
- [shouts]
[song ends]
1630
01:24:57,676 --> 01:25:01,597
[cheers and applause]
1631
01:25:01,930 --> 01:25:03,098
Thank you!
1632
01:25:09,605 --> 01:25:11,815
[cheers and applause fades]
1633
01:25:11,898 --> 01:25:15,110
[engine revving]
1634
01:25:35,505 --> 01:25:38,717
- In 1985, she signed on to do
the third "Mad Max" movie,
1635
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,344
"Beyond Thunderdome."
1636
01:25:40,427 --> 01:25:42,137
"Rolling Stone"
sent me in to cover this.
1637
01:25:42,220 --> 01:25:43,722
I said, "Great,
I'd love to cover this."
1638
01:25:45,098 --> 01:25:47,392
She was the biggest
pop star in the world.
1639
01:25:47,684 --> 01:25:50,103
I mean, it was already clear
there were gonna be people
1640
01:25:50,187 --> 01:25:51,980
doing these quickie bios
of Tina Turner,
1641
01:25:52,064 --> 01:25:53,482
which I thought
was really tacky.
1642
01:25:53,565 --> 01:25:55,233
So I got over there,
I talked to Roger,
1643
01:25:55,317 --> 01:25:58,236
I said, "You know,
maybe you should have someone
1644
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,114
"do a book, you know,
do an actual biography.
1645
01:26:01,198 --> 01:26:03,659
And could be me.
I mean, could be anybody."
1646
01:26:03,742 --> 01:26:05,327
You know?
I don't want to be pushy.
1647
01:26:05,410 --> 01:26:06,953
- You pitched that?
- Oh, yeah.
1648
01:26:07,037 --> 01:26:10,207
Well, I brought up the
possibility of doing something
1649
01:26:10,290 --> 01:26:13,168
to forestall all these bad books
that would be coming out.
1650
01:26:14,002 --> 01:26:16,630
- When she became successful,
1651
01:26:16,797 --> 01:26:19,549
the past came up,
and it got a lot of press,
1652
01:26:19,633 --> 01:26:22,260
'cause she was also
hugely popular.
1653
01:26:22,344 --> 01:26:24,638
People continued
to ask about Ike.
1654
01:26:24,721 --> 01:26:27,265
Even after she had
had huge solo success,
1655
01:26:27,349 --> 01:26:29,101
they'd bring up
the same old stuff
1656
01:26:29,184 --> 01:26:30,894
over and over
in every interview.
1657
01:26:30,977 --> 01:26:32,187
We couldn't stop it.
1658
01:26:32,270 --> 01:26:33,730
- Ike was arrested
1659
01:26:33,814 --> 01:26:36,817
on some cocaine charges
in Pasadena.
1660
01:26:36,900 --> 01:26:38,193
- Oh.
- Yeah, for possession
1661
01:26:38,276 --> 01:26:41,530
and conspiracy,
possibly for dealing.
1662
01:26:42,114 --> 01:26:44,157
Any reaction to that?
1663
01:26:44,241 --> 01:26:47,661
- You know, I'd like
to hear all positive things.
1664
01:26:47,744 --> 01:26:49,788
I'd love to hear that Ike
had a record deal
1665
01:26:49,871 --> 01:26:52,124
and he was producing
an album on himself.
1666
01:26:56,336 --> 01:26:57,504
- Right.
1667
01:27:11,977 --> 01:27:13,311
Yeah.
1668
01:27:16,940 --> 01:27:18,567
- I think, as she said
at the time,
1669
01:27:18,650 --> 01:27:20,402
"I can do this and not have
to talk about it again."
1670
01:27:20,485 --> 01:27:22,112
"Everybody's talking about it.
1671
01:27:22,195 --> 01:27:24,406
"Everybody has this idea
about it, it's this or that.
1672
01:27:24,489 --> 01:27:26,241
"I know what happened.
I'll say what happened,
1673
01:27:26,324 --> 01:27:28,243
and I won't have to
address it again."
1674
01:27:29,369 --> 01:27:31,663
- A long line of fans
waited outside
1675
01:27:31,747 --> 01:27:33,749
a Barnes & Noble bookstore
for Tina.
1676
01:27:33,832 --> 01:27:36,460
The soulful singer
is now also an author,
1677
01:27:36,543 --> 01:27:38,462
and she was in town,
anxious and willing
1678
01:27:38,545 --> 01:27:40,589
to autograph
a few hundred copies.
1679
01:27:40,672 --> 01:27:42,758
- It was worth getting sweaty,
going up there,
1680
01:27:42,841 --> 01:27:44,634
pushing people,
getting them out the way,
1681
01:27:44,718 --> 01:27:46,136
seeing Tina Turner...
I love her.
1682
01:27:46,219 --> 01:27:47,345
What's love got to do with it?
1683
01:27:47,721 --> 01:27:50,390
- Tina's book, by the way,
tracing her rise
1684
01:27:50,474 --> 01:27:53,310
and fall and rise again
is titled "I, Tina."
1685
01:27:54,686 --> 01:27:57,189
- It was a top ten
"New York Times" bestseller
1686
01:27:57,272 --> 01:27:59,149
strictly because of
Tina Turner.
1687
01:27:59,232 --> 01:28:00,859
I mean, they could put
an empty book out
1688
01:28:00,942 --> 01:28:03,487
with her picture on the cover.
That book would have sold.
1689
01:28:04,279 --> 01:28:07,783
- She just felt maybe
it'll put it to bed
1690
01:28:07,866 --> 01:28:09,493
once and for all,
1691
01:28:09,576 --> 01:28:10,911
which, of course, it didn't.
1692
01:28:10,994 --> 01:28:12,287
It just made it bigger.
1693
01:28:12,370 --> 01:28:14,372
- Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Hello.
1694
01:28:14,456 --> 01:28:16,124
- I read your book,
1695
01:28:16,208 --> 01:28:18,126
and it's totally
changed my life.
1696
01:28:18,210 --> 01:28:20,337
I love you.
I thank you.
1697
01:28:21,505 --> 01:28:24,382
- That story
reached so many people
1698
01:28:24,591 --> 01:28:27,427
who felt like they had to
kind of keep their secrets
1699
01:28:27,511 --> 01:28:28,678
locked away deep down.
1700
01:28:29,554 --> 01:28:31,890
But then I wonder,
I think of, like...
1701
01:28:31,973 --> 01:28:34,434
It's like a Pandora's Box
situation, right?
1702
01:28:34,518 --> 01:28:36,645
Like, "Damn, I got to tell
the story again?"
1703
01:28:36,937 --> 01:28:41,149
[stirring music]
1704
01:28:41,233 --> 01:28:43,652
- And then the film came out
1705
01:28:43,735 --> 01:28:47,197
and just kind of brought
more attention to her name
1706
01:28:47,656 --> 01:28:50,617
for people to see
what happened and everything.
1707
01:28:50,700 --> 01:28:52,494
- What'd you say?
- Don't start with me.
1708
01:28:52,577 --> 01:28:54,496
I ain't in the mood today,
all right?
1709
01:28:54,621 --> 01:28:56,456
- It's tangible in a sense.
You're watching it.
1710
01:28:56,540 --> 01:28:58,291
- I'll give up
all that other stuff
1711
01:28:58,375 --> 01:29:00,126
but only if I get to
keep my name.
1712
01:29:00,210 --> 01:29:02,212
I worked too hard for it,
Your Honor.
1713
01:29:02,587 --> 01:29:04,881
- And it just changed
everything for her.
1714
01:29:06,258 --> 01:29:08,510
- That role changed my life.
1715
01:29:09,511 --> 01:29:11,388
I mean, I'm not Tina,
1716
01:29:11,471 --> 01:29:15,267
and I've got so much love
1717
01:29:15,350 --> 01:29:17,978
from others... men, women...
who've come up and say,
1718
01:29:18,061 --> 01:29:21,022
"You playing her in that story
changed my life."
1719
01:29:21,106 --> 01:29:23,441
[soft music]
1720
01:29:23,525 --> 01:29:25,944
- The story goes out
into people's houses,
1721
01:29:26,027 --> 01:29:29,114
and then it becomes
a part of their life as well.
1722
01:29:29,197 --> 01:29:31,366
- It's Tina Day!
1723
01:29:31,449 --> 01:29:33,159
[cheers and applause]
Whoo!
1724
01:29:33,243 --> 01:29:35,412
♪ ♪
1725
01:29:35,495 --> 01:29:38,206
- It's hard to wrap
your mind around
1726
01:29:38,290 --> 01:29:40,250
that your life has been
an inspiration...
1727
01:29:40,333 --> 01:29:41,751
maybe the worst parts
of your life
1728
01:29:41,835 --> 01:29:43,545
has been an inspiration.
1729
01:29:43,670 --> 01:29:46,464
- We have 50,000 letters
downstairs from women
1730
01:29:46,548 --> 01:29:49,134
who have also been through it
and survived.
1731
01:29:49,217 --> 01:29:50,844
Tina did it.
So can you.
1732
01:29:50,927 --> 01:29:52,220
Let's celebrate.
1733
01:29:52,304 --> 01:29:57,058
[cheers and applause]
1734
01:29:57,142 --> 01:29:59,352
- She's no longer
in control of that story.
1735
01:29:59,436 --> 01:30:01,521
That's what happens to icons.
1736
01:30:02,689 --> 01:30:05,400
Anna Mae Bullock
has her own life.
1737
01:30:05,692 --> 01:30:08,028
Tina Turner
belongs to the world.
1738
01:30:08,111 --> 01:30:09,404
[fireworks popping]
1739
01:30:09,571 --> 01:30:13,909
[stirring music]
1740
01:30:13,992 --> 01:30:18,830
♪ ♪
1741
01:30:19,497 --> 01:30:21,666
[applause]
1742
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:25,921
- Ms. Turner,
welcome to Venice.
1743
01:30:26,004 --> 01:30:28,381
Can you give me
your views on the film?
1744
01:30:29,132 --> 01:30:31,843
- Well, I haven't as yet
seen the film.
1745
01:30:33,887 --> 01:30:35,472
[clears throat]
1746
01:30:35,555 --> 01:30:36,723
Well...
1747
01:30:37,891 --> 01:30:41,561
I'm not so thrilled
about thinking about the past
1748
01:30:41,645 --> 01:30:43,188
and how I lived my life.
1749
01:30:43,271 --> 01:30:46,441
It was made a story.
1750
01:30:46,524 --> 01:30:48,985
The story
was actually written
1751
01:30:49,069 --> 01:30:51,780
so that I would no longer
have to discuss the issue.
1752
01:30:51,863 --> 01:30:54,699
I don't love that it's always
talked about, you see?
1753
01:30:54,783 --> 01:30:58,578
I made a point of just putting
the news out to stop the thing
1754
01:30:58,662 --> 01:31:00,705
so that I could go on
with my life.
1755
01:31:00,789 --> 01:31:04,000
And this constant reminder
is not so good, you know.
1756
01:31:04,084 --> 01:31:06,127
I'm not so happy about it.
1757
01:31:06,211 --> 01:31:08,672
So do I want to sit and screen
1758
01:31:08,755 --> 01:31:11,049
and watch the violence
and all the brutality?
1759
01:31:11,132 --> 01:31:12,968
No. That's why
I haven't seen it.
1760
01:31:13,051 --> 01:31:15,929
[applause]
1761
01:31:17,931 --> 01:31:20,141
- You know,
when you talk to journalists
1762
01:31:20,225 --> 01:31:23,812
over and over
for 20 or 30 or 40 years,
1763
01:31:23,895 --> 01:31:26,022
memories come back.
1764
01:31:26,106 --> 01:31:29,150
She has partly dreams
about it.
1765
01:31:29,234 --> 01:31:30,735
They're not pleasant.
1766
01:31:30,819 --> 01:31:32,362
So I think
these are these things
1767
01:31:32,445 --> 01:31:35,198
that come back to her
when she opens that book.
1768
01:31:35,573 --> 01:31:39,119
It's like when soldiers
come back from the war.
1769
01:31:39,452 --> 01:31:42,539
It's not a easy time to...
1770
01:31:42,622 --> 01:31:45,375
to have this in your memory,
and they try to forget.
1771
01:31:45,458 --> 01:31:47,335
I see it a little bit
like that.
1772
01:31:47,919 --> 01:31:50,171
- Tina today
is a world superstar.
1773
01:31:50,255 --> 01:31:52,257
But there was a point
where you had to become
1774
01:31:52,340 --> 01:31:53,967
the comeback kid.
1775
01:31:54,050 --> 01:31:55,719
How did you get the strength
1776
01:31:55,802 --> 01:31:57,637
to get out of that situation
with Ike?
1777
01:31:57,762 --> 01:32:00,682
- Oh, we are gonna
talk about him, aren't we?
1778
01:32:00,765 --> 01:32:02,517
[laughs]
- [speaks indistinctly]
1779
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:04,978
- Okay. I need my fan now.
I just had a flush.
1780
01:32:05,061 --> 01:32:07,272
[laughing]
1781
01:32:07,731 --> 01:32:09,566
How did I get out
of that situation?
1782
01:32:09,649 --> 01:32:11,151
Let me figure out
how I can talk about that
1783
01:32:11,234 --> 01:32:12,569
in two seconds.
- [speaks indistinctly]
1784
01:32:12,652 --> 01:32:14,404
- No, no, I know
how to get out of it.
1785
01:32:14,487 --> 01:32:16,781
I'm just gonna say something.
1786
01:32:16,865 --> 01:32:18,700
Give me two seconds here.
1787
01:32:19,242 --> 01:32:21,286
You don't want to think
about those times, you know.
1788
01:32:21,369 --> 01:32:23,580
You want it to just go away.
1789
01:32:23,705 --> 01:32:25,623
But if you're gonna
keep bringing it up...
1790
01:32:25,707 --> 01:32:28,668
the brain is saying, "Oh,
you want to remember that."
1791
01:32:30,378 --> 01:32:33,256
That scene comes back.
1792
01:32:33,381 --> 01:32:36,968
You're dreaming.
The real picture is there.
1793
01:32:37,052 --> 01:32:39,888
It's like a curse.
1794
01:32:40,472 --> 01:32:43,099
[somber music]
1795
01:32:43,183 --> 01:32:45,810
- You raised a son by him,
a son by another man,
1796
01:32:45,894 --> 01:32:48,271
and two of Ike's kids
by other women.
1797
01:32:48,354 --> 01:32:50,982
There were always
other women on the scene.
1798
01:32:51,066 --> 01:32:53,026
What was that like for you?
1799
01:32:53,109 --> 01:32:54,861
- When you were married
to Ike,
1800
01:32:54,944 --> 01:32:57,447
what was the absolutely
worst moment?
1801
01:32:58,073 --> 01:33:00,533
- What do you think
attracts women to bad men?
1802
01:33:00,950 --> 01:33:02,535
- Is there a real low,
1803
01:33:02,619 --> 01:33:04,537
like something
you'd love to forget?
1804
01:33:04,871 --> 01:33:07,040
- And, of course, the book
and the movie features
1805
01:33:07,123 --> 01:33:09,626
your allegations
about his bashings.
1806
01:33:09,709 --> 01:33:11,169
Tell me about that.
1807
01:33:11,252 --> 01:33:13,129
- I'm past it.
1808
01:33:13,213 --> 01:33:15,757
It's been 16 years
since I haven't been with Ike,
1809
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:17,801
and the movie and the book
is bringing me back
1810
01:33:17,884 --> 01:33:20,553
to the past of something
that was really awful.
1811
01:33:20,637 --> 01:33:22,472
My life is wonderful
at the moment.
1812
01:33:22,555 --> 01:33:23,765
I'm a happy person now,
1813
01:33:23,848 --> 01:33:27,018
and I don't dwell
on unhappiness.
1814
01:33:27,102 --> 01:33:30,105
[soft, moody music]
1815
01:33:30,188 --> 01:33:32,482
♪ ♪
1816
01:33:32,649 --> 01:33:34,359
- The trauma's still so deep
1817
01:33:34,442 --> 01:33:36,444
that to go back there
makes you feel
1818
01:33:36,528 --> 01:33:38,488
like you're actually
going back.
1819
01:33:39,864 --> 01:33:42,992
If you don't address
the wounds of your past,
1820
01:33:43,076 --> 01:33:44,953
you continue to bleed.
1821
01:33:45,036 --> 01:33:48,498
♪ ♪
1822
01:33:48,623 --> 01:33:50,333
- You know, she just...
she always had the feeling
1823
01:33:50,416 --> 01:33:52,085
that she wasn't loved...
1824
01:33:52,210 --> 01:33:55,922
she wasn't... you know,
she wasn't a wanted child.
1825
01:33:56,256 --> 01:33:59,384
♪ ♪
1826
01:33:59,509 --> 01:34:02,512
I think with her mom,
I think that's still
1827
01:34:02,595 --> 01:34:05,932
the dramatization
of being left as a child
1828
01:34:06,015 --> 01:34:07,767
that never left.
1829
01:34:08,101 --> 01:34:13,106
♪ ♪
1830
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:17,193
- Ma was...
1831
01:34:17,277 --> 01:34:18,695
not kind.
1832
01:34:20,196 --> 01:34:22,198
When I became a star,
1833
01:34:22,282 --> 01:34:23,950
of course,
like, then she was happy
1834
01:34:24,033 --> 01:34:25,869
because
I bought her a house.
1835
01:34:25,952 --> 01:34:27,787
I did all kinds of things
for her.
1836
01:34:27,871 --> 01:34:29,205
She was my mother.
1837
01:34:29,455 --> 01:34:31,833
You know, I was trying
to make her comfortable
1838
01:34:31,916 --> 01:34:33,543
because she didn't have
a husband.
1839
01:34:33,626 --> 01:34:34,627
She was alone.
1840
01:34:34,711 --> 01:34:37,255
But she still didn't like me.
1841
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,384
Even after I became Tina,
1842
01:34:41,467 --> 01:34:44,053
Ma still was a little bit,
"Who did that?"
1843
01:34:44,137 --> 01:34:45,346
Or, "Who did this?"
1844
01:34:45,388 --> 01:34:46,556
And I said, "I did it, Ma."
1845
01:34:46,639 --> 01:34:49,267
You know, I was happy
to show my mother what I did.
1846
01:34:49,350 --> 01:34:51,769
I had a house,
I had gotten a car,
1847
01:34:51,853 --> 01:34:53,521
and she said,
"I don't believe it.
1848
01:34:53,605 --> 01:34:55,899
You're my daughter.
I know you didn't..."
1849
01:34:55,982 --> 01:34:58,067
Something to this effect.
1850
01:34:59,277 --> 01:35:00,904
Yeah, she...
[exhales sharply]
1851
01:35:03,198 --> 01:35:05,200
She didn't want...
she didn't want me,
1852
01:35:05,283 --> 01:35:06,993
she didn't want to be
around me,
1853
01:35:07,076 --> 01:35:09,287
even though
she wanted my success.
1854
01:35:09,370 --> 01:35:11,414
But I did for her...
1855
01:35:11,831 --> 01:35:14,417
as if she loved me.
1856
01:35:17,879 --> 01:35:21,174
- She's had a few kind of
ups and downs in her life
1857
01:35:21,257 --> 01:35:24,719
as well,
it hasn't been all happy.
1858
01:35:24,802 --> 01:35:26,638
- Right.
- Um...
1859
01:35:27,847 --> 01:35:29,557
when she's unhappy,
1860
01:35:29,641 --> 01:35:31,476
how does she deal
with it?
1861
01:35:34,646 --> 01:35:37,106
- I would say she...
1862
01:35:40,735 --> 01:35:44,364
She did a great job
of dealing with it because...
1863
01:35:45,114 --> 01:35:47,242
she would figure out
the problem
1864
01:35:47,325 --> 01:35:49,035
and how to handle it.
1865
01:35:51,746 --> 01:35:54,290
- Would she kind of come
running home to you crying?
1866
01:35:54,374 --> 01:35:55,667
- No, no, no.
1867
01:35:55,750 --> 01:35:58,336
No, she figured that out
on her own.
1868
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,422
- Have you had any
particularly...
1869
01:36:01,798 --> 01:36:04,717
any particular moments
that you were really proud of?
1870
01:36:07,887 --> 01:36:12,475
- Well, I've been proud of her
ever since she started singing.
1871
01:36:12,558 --> 01:36:14,477
But it's, like...
1872
01:36:15,436 --> 01:36:17,689
a person... some people's
1873
01:36:17,772 --> 01:36:19,565
afraid to climb a ladder
1874
01:36:19,649 --> 01:36:22,026
unless someone's holding it.
1875
01:36:22,819 --> 01:36:24,404
But she's not.
1876
01:36:24,487 --> 01:36:26,739
Once she make that first
step on that ladder,
1877
01:36:26,823 --> 01:36:30,410
she keep climbing up,
up, up, up.
1878
01:36:30,743 --> 01:36:32,662
She's not afraid.
1879
01:36:32,745 --> 01:36:34,205
She'll try.
1880
01:36:35,081 --> 01:36:38,126
She's not afraid
to try anything.
1881
01:36:42,755 --> 01:36:45,216
- Do you think... do you think
that now after all the...
1882
01:36:45,300 --> 01:36:47,635
I mean, you've risen to the
top of the entertainment field
1883
01:36:47,719 --> 01:36:49,387
but you've maybe
sacrificed love...
1884
01:36:49,470 --> 01:36:51,014
- Rising...
- This is what readers
1885
01:36:51,097 --> 01:36:53,891
will say...
she has no love in her life.
1886
01:36:53,975 --> 01:36:55,893
- Oh, Kurt, we're gonna get
really heavy now,
1887
01:36:55,977 --> 01:36:57,395
because I'm drinking.
1888
01:36:57,478 --> 01:36:59,355
- [laughing] Oh, good.
- You're gonna find out.
1889
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:03,192
I have not received love
almost ever in my life.
1890
01:37:03,276 --> 01:37:04,902
I did not have it
with my mother
1891
01:37:04,986 --> 01:37:06,738
and my father
from the beginning of birth,
1892
01:37:06,821 --> 01:37:08,364
and I survived.
- Yeah.
1893
01:37:08,448 --> 01:37:10,700
- Why did I get so far
without love, Kurt?
1894
01:37:10,783 --> 01:37:12,410
I never had it.
1895
01:37:12,493 --> 01:37:14,912
And if I cry here, it doesn't
mean that I pity myself.
1896
01:37:14,996 --> 01:37:16,664
It means that tears come
1897
01:37:16,748 --> 01:37:18,499
with certain memories.
- No, tears are not bad.
1898
01:37:18,583 --> 01:37:23,254
- I have had not one
love affair
1899
01:37:23,546 --> 01:37:27,050
that was genuine
and sustained itself.
1900
01:37:27,133 --> 01:37:29,135
Not one.
1901
01:37:29,427 --> 01:37:31,304
Kurt, I've been through...
1902
01:37:31,429 --> 01:37:33,723
[pounds table]
Fucking tons of heartbreak!
1903
01:37:33,806 --> 01:37:35,016
I've analyzed it.
1904
01:37:35,099 --> 01:37:36,684
I said,
"What's wrong with me?"
1905
01:37:36,768 --> 01:37:38,311
I've looked in the mirror
with myself
1906
01:37:38,394 --> 01:37:40,396
stripped of makeup
and without hair.
1907
01:37:40,897 --> 01:37:45,943
Why can someone see the beauty
in the woman it is that I am?
1908
01:37:46,027 --> 01:37:48,446
Not a goddamn person
that found it.
1909
01:37:49,322 --> 01:37:52,200
[quiet music]
1910
01:37:52,283 --> 01:37:57,330
♪ ♪
1911
01:38:53,052 --> 01:38:56,097
[cheers and applause]
1912
01:38:56,180 --> 01:38:59,767
["Help!" playing]
1913
01:38:59,851 --> 01:39:05,690
♪ ♪
1914
01:39:09,402 --> 01:39:11,529
♪ When I was younger ♪
1915
01:39:11,612 --> 01:39:16,033
♪ So much younger
than today ♪
1916
01:39:16,868 --> 01:39:19,745
♪ Never needed anybody's ♪
1917
01:39:20,288 --> 01:39:24,083
♪ Help in any way ♪
1918
01:39:25,126 --> 01:39:27,587
♪ Now those days are gone ♪
1919
01:39:28,212 --> 01:39:31,507
♪ I'm not so self-assured ♪
1920
01:39:32,633 --> 01:39:35,887
♪ Now I find
I've changed my mind ♪
1921
01:39:35,970 --> 01:39:39,348
♪ I've opened up the doors ♪
1922
01:39:39,849 --> 01:39:42,727
♪ So help me if you can ♪
1923
01:39:42,810 --> 01:39:45,021
♪ I'm feelin' down ♪
1924
01:39:46,355 --> 01:39:48,733
[crowd cheering]
♪ And I do ♪
1925
01:39:48,816 --> 01:39:51,652
♪ Appreciate you ♪
1926
01:39:51,736 --> 01:39:53,905
♪ Bein' round ♪
1927
01:39:55,615 --> 01:40:00,912
♪ Oh, help me get my feet
back on the ground ♪
1928
01:40:00,995 --> 01:40:02,914
- ♪ Ooh ♪
1929
01:40:02,997 --> 01:40:06,584
- ♪ Won't you please,
please ♪
1930
01:40:06,667 --> 01:40:08,544
♪ Help me? ♪
1931
01:40:08,628 --> 01:40:12,590
♪ ♪
1932
01:40:12,882 --> 01:40:15,134
♪ And now my life has changed ♪
1933
01:40:15,510 --> 01:40:19,013
♪ In, oh, so many ways ♪
1934
01:40:19,931 --> 01:40:22,225
♪ And my independence ♪
1935
01:40:22,767 --> 01:40:25,478
♪ Seems to vanish in the haze ♪
1936
01:40:25,561 --> 01:40:27,813
- ♪ Oh, yeah-ea-eah ♪
1937
01:40:27,897 --> 01:40:30,233
- ♪ Every now and then ♪
1938
01:40:30,983 --> 01:40:34,028
♪ I feel so insecure ♪
1939
01:40:34,779 --> 01:40:37,323
♪ I know that I just need you ♪
1940
01:40:37,615 --> 01:40:40,993
♪ Like I never did before ♪
1941
01:40:42,078 --> 01:40:44,789
♪ Help me if you can ♪
1942
01:40:44,872 --> 01:40:47,083
♪ I'm feelin' down ♪
1943
01:40:47,166 --> 01:40:50,044
[crowd cheering]
1944
01:40:50,127 --> 01:40:53,130
♪ I do appreciate you ♪
1945
01:40:53,839 --> 01:40:56,551
♪ Bein' round ♪
1946
01:40:56,634 --> 01:40:57,885
- ♪ Oh ♪
1947
01:40:57,969 --> 01:41:00,513
- ♪ Help me get my feet ♪
1948
01:41:00,596 --> 01:41:03,015
♪ Back on the ground ♪
1949
01:41:03,099 --> 01:41:04,934
♪ ♪
1950
01:41:05,017 --> 01:41:06,811
♪ Won't you please ♪
1951
01:41:06,894 --> 01:41:08,813
♪ Please ♪
- ♪ Please ♪
1952
01:41:08,896 --> 01:41:10,982
- ♪ Help me? ♪
1953
01:41:12,900 --> 01:41:14,694
♪ Won't you please ♪
1954
01:41:14,986 --> 01:41:16,779
♪ Please ♪
- ♪ Please ♪
1955
01:41:16,862 --> 01:41:18,864
- ♪ Help me? ♪
1956
01:41:18,948 --> 01:41:20,324
♪ Oh, yeah, yeah ♪
1957
01:41:20,575 --> 01:41:22,785
♪ Oh, please ♪
1958
01:41:22,868 --> 01:41:30,042
♪ Please ♪
- ♪ Please ♪
1959
01:41:30,501 --> 01:41:32,962
[crowd cheering]
1960
01:41:33,045 --> 01:41:37,300
♪ Mmm, won't you ♪
1961
01:41:38,092 --> 01:41:40,636
♪ Please help me? ♪
1962
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:41,846
- ♪ Help ♪
1963
01:41:42,930 --> 01:41:44,515
- ♪ Oh ♪
1964
01:41:44,765 --> 01:41:45,766
- ♪ Help ♪
1965
01:41:46,851 --> 01:41:48,811
- ♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, oh ♪
1966
01:41:48,894 --> 01:41:49,937
- ♪ Help ♪
1967
01:41:51,022 --> 01:41:52,023
♪ Help ♪
1968
01:41:52,523 --> 01:41:54,859
♪ ♪
1969
01:41:54,942 --> 01:42:00,489
- ♪ Oh ♪
1970
01:42:00,573 --> 01:42:04,243
[cheers and applause]
1971
01:42:04,410 --> 01:42:06,537
[music fades]
1972
01:42:10,499 --> 01:42:12,585
The man that I'm looking for
actually has to be
1973
01:42:12,668 --> 01:42:14,337
a very strong man,
1974
01:42:14,420 --> 01:42:16,589
to wear, actually,
the trousers,
1975
01:42:16,672 --> 01:42:19,592
but yet not to dominate me.
1976
01:42:19,675 --> 01:42:21,594
And that's fair.
1977
01:42:29,393 --> 01:42:33,022
[crowd clamoring]
1978
01:42:33,189 --> 01:42:34,982
- We met at Cologne Airport.
1979
01:42:35,066 --> 01:42:37,443
Actually, it was
at Dusseldorf Airport.
1980
01:42:37,526 --> 01:42:39,612
And her manager, Roger,
1981
01:42:39,695 --> 01:42:43,491
asked me to pick up Tina.
1982
01:42:45,326 --> 01:42:46,494
- He was younger.
1983
01:42:46,577 --> 01:42:48,371
He was 30 years old
at the time.
1984
01:42:48,454 --> 01:42:51,540
The prettiest face.
I mean, you cannot...
1985
01:42:52,249 --> 01:42:53,834
It was like saying,
1986
01:42:53,918 --> 01:42:55,920
"Where did he come from?"
1987
01:42:56,003 --> 01:42:58,214
He was really so good-looking.
1988
01:42:58,422 --> 01:43:01,258
My heart went
ba-boom-ba-ba!
1989
01:43:01,550 --> 01:43:04,720
And it means
that a soul has met.
1990
01:43:04,804 --> 01:43:06,430
And my hands were shaking.
1991
01:43:06,806 --> 01:43:11,060
So Roger said to me,
"Tina, you ride with Erwin."
1992
01:43:11,143 --> 01:43:14,230
And I wanted to go, "Yay!"
[laughing]
1993
01:43:14,313 --> 01:43:16,399
[soft music]
1994
01:43:16,482 --> 01:43:17,900
- We enjoyed the ride.
1995
01:43:17,983 --> 01:43:20,611
I enjoyed driving
the artist.
1996
01:43:20,695 --> 01:43:22,613
Actually, a superstar for us
1997
01:43:22,697 --> 01:43:24,657
where you're normally
a little nervous, you know.
1998
01:43:24,740 --> 01:43:27,284
But I wasn't nervous either.
1999
01:43:27,368 --> 01:43:29,578
I was just doing the job.
2000
01:43:30,830 --> 01:43:33,582
- When he found out
that I liked him,
2001
01:43:33,666 --> 01:43:35,084
he came to America.
2002
01:43:35,418 --> 01:43:38,963
We were in Nashville,
I think it was.
2003
01:43:39,046 --> 01:43:40,506
And I said to him,
2004
01:43:40,756 --> 01:43:44,343
"When you come to LA,
I want you to make love to me."
2005
01:43:45,511 --> 01:43:47,346
But I thought
that I could say that
2006
01:43:47,430 --> 01:43:49,932
'cause I was a free woman...
I didn't have a boyfriend.
2007
01:43:50,015 --> 01:43:52,560
I liked him. There was nothing
wrong with it.
2008
01:43:52,643 --> 01:43:54,145
It was just sex.
2009
01:43:54,228 --> 01:43:56,814
And he looked at me
as if he doesn't...
2010
01:43:56,897 --> 01:43:58,274
[laughing]
Didn't believe
2011
01:43:58,357 --> 01:44:00,693
what he was hearing!
2012
01:44:00,901 --> 01:44:03,571
[laughing]
I laugh now at the moment,
2013
01:44:03,654 --> 01:44:05,823
because I sometimes
get that look
2014
01:44:05,906 --> 01:44:07,950
when I do certain things.
2015
01:44:08,868 --> 01:44:10,244
He was...
2016
01:44:10,828 --> 01:44:13,998
just so, so different.
2017
01:44:14,081 --> 01:44:18,169
So laid-back, so comfortable,
so unpretentious.
2018
01:44:20,045 --> 01:44:22,882
And that was the beginning
of our relationship.
2019
01:44:22,965 --> 01:44:25,968
[uplifting music]
2020
01:44:26,051 --> 01:44:30,681
♪ ♪
2021
01:44:32,767 --> 01:44:34,351
I really needed love.
2022
01:44:34,435 --> 01:44:36,771
I just needed
to love a person.
2023
01:44:40,065 --> 01:44:42,276
How many years later,
darling, we got married?
2024
01:44:43,194 --> 01:44:44,570
- 27.
2025
01:44:45,237 --> 01:44:48,032
[applause]
2026
01:44:49,533 --> 01:44:51,410
It's love.
It's something...
2027
01:44:51,494 --> 01:44:54,330
we both have for each other.
2028
01:44:54,413 --> 01:44:58,667
I always refer to it
as an electrical charge.
2029
01:44:58,751 --> 01:45:00,002
I still have it.
2030
01:45:00,127 --> 01:45:02,671
I still have it, and even
though when I left her
2031
01:45:02,755 --> 01:45:04,715
two hours ago,
three hours ago this morning,
2032
01:45:05,382 --> 01:45:06,926
I still have that feeling.
2033
01:45:07,009 --> 01:45:11,430
That feeling is still with me
and is in my heart.
2034
01:45:11,514 --> 01:45:13,516
I feel very warm about this.
2035
01:45:13,599 --> 01:45:16,477
[soft, moving music]
2036
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:22,566
♪ ♪
2037
01:46:17,413 --> 01:46:21,083
[music slows, fades]
2038
01:46:25,004 --> 01:46:26,463
- First a minute to remember
2039
01:46:26,547 --> 01:46:28,591
one of the fathers
of rock and roll.
2040
01:46:28,674 --> 01:46:31,969
Ike Turner died today
at age 76.
2041
01:46:32,094 --> 01:46:34,597
Back in 1951,
Turner helped record
2042
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:36,765
what is one of the first
rock and roll records,
2043
01:46:36,849 --> 01:46:39,852
"Rocket 88," with his band
the Kings of Rhythm.
2044
01:46:39,935 --> 01:46:41,478
He may be best known
2045
01:46:41,562 --> 01:46:43,564
as the abusive ex-husband
of Tina Turner,
2046
01:46:43,647 --> 01:46:45,357
with whom he performed
for many years.
2047
01:46:45,441 --> 01:46:46,775
After their separation,
2048
01:46:46,859 --> 01:46:48,694
Ike Turner continued
to make music.
2049
01:46:48,777 --> 01:46:50,529
In 1991, he was inducted
2050
01:46:50,613 --> 01:46:52,156
into the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame,
2051
01:46:52,239 --> 01:46:55,743
and earlier this year, his
record "Risin' with the Blues"
2052
01:46:55,826 --> 01:46:58,329
won a Grammy
for traditional blues album.
2053
01:47:00,164 --> 01:47:01,790
- For a long time,
I did hate Ike.
2054
01:47:01,874 --> 01:47:02,917
I have to say that.
2055
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:05,711
But then after he died,
2056
01:47:06,337 --> 01:47:09,048
I really realized
that he was a sick person.
2057
01:47:09,131 --> 01:47:12,509
He was an ill person
in his soul.
2058
01:47:13,218 --> 01:47:15,387
He did get me started,
2059
01:47:16,180 --> 01:47:19,475
and he was good to me
in the beginning.
2060
01:47:19,558 --> 01:47:21,018
So I have some good thoughts.
2061
01:47:22,978 --> 01:47:25,731
Maybe it was a good thing
that I met him.
2062
01:47:26,357 --> 01:47:27,775
That I don't know.
2063
01:47:29,276 --> 01:47:32,196
[soft music]
2064
01:47:32,279 --> 01:47:37,076
♪ ♪
2065
01:47:44,833 --> 01:47:49,171
It hurts to have to remember
those times.
2066
01:47:49,254 --> 01:47:53,008
♪ ♪
2067
01:47:53,092 --> 01:47:57,638
But at a certain stage,
forgiveness takes over.
2068
01:47:57,721 --> 01:47:59,932
♪ ♪
2069
01:48:00,015 --> 01:48:02,184
Forgiving
means not to hold on.
2070
01:48:03,268 --> 01:48:06,939
You let it go,
because it only hurts you.
2071
01:48:07,356 --> 01:48:09,984
Not forgiving, you suffer,
2072
01:48:10,067 --> 01:48:12,027
'cause you think
about it over and over again.
2073
01:48:12,111 --> 01:48:13,737
And for what?
2074
01:48:13,821 --> 01:48:16,782
[uplifting music]
2075
01:48:16,991 --> 01:48:19,034
I had an abusive life.
2076
01:48:19,118 --> 01:48:20,995
There's no other
way to tell the story.
2077
01:48:21,078 --> 01:48:23,080
It's a reality.
It's a truth.
2078
01:48:24,623 --> 01:48:26,709
That's what you've got.
2079
01:48:26,792 --> 01:48:28,627
So you have to accept it.
2080
01:48:29,586 --> 01:48:33,424
[stirring piano notes]
2081
01:48:33,590 --> 01:48:39,596
♪ ♪
2082
01:48:47,021 --> 01:48:49,857
[car horns honk,
indistinct chatter]
2083
01:48:52,484 --> 01:48:55,446
♪ ♪
2084
01:48:55,529 --> 01:48:58,115
[camera shutters clicking]
2085
01:48:58,198 --> 01:49:00,242
♪ ♪
2086
01:49:00,784 --> 01:49:01,744
- Working it.
2087
01:49:01,827 --> 01:49:03,037
Working it, as always.
- Why, thank you, honey.
2088
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:05,372
- Can you tell us
what Tina means to you?
2089
01:49:06,331 --> 01:49:08,500
♪ ♪
2090
01:49:09,334 --> 01:49:11,045
- The money shot is coming.
2091
01:49:11,128 --> 01:49:15,632
♪ ♪
2092
01:49:18,343 --> 01:49:20,262
- Some people say
the life that I lived
2093
01:49:20,345 --> 01:49:23,265
and the performances
that I gave...
2094
01:49:23,348 --> 01:49:27,352
The appreciation
is lasting with the people.
2095
01:49:28,353 --> 01:49:31,273
And, yeah, I should be
proud of that.
2096
01:49:31,356 --> 01:49:32,483
I am.
2097
01:49:34,234 --> 01:49:35,736
But when do you stop
being proud?
2098
01:49:35,819 --> 01:49:37,613
I mean, when do you...
2099
01:49:37,696 --> 01:49:42,326
How do you bow out slowly,
just go away?
2100
01:49:44,578 --> 01:49:45,829
[sighs]
2101
01:49:48,082 --> 01:49:50,751
- She said,
"I'm going to America.
2102
01:49:51,085 --> 01:49:54,254
"I'm gonna say goodbye
to my American fans,
2103
01:49:54,338 --> 01:49:55,923
and I'll wrap it up."
2104
01:49:56,924 --> 01:50:00,719
And I think this documentary
here and the play...
2105
01:50:01,428 --> 01:50:03,305
this is it.
2106
01:50:04,264 --> 01:50:06,433
It's a closure.
2107
01:50:06,517 --> 01:50:07,976
A closure.
2108
01:50:08,519 --> 01:50:11,730
Crowd:
Tina, Tina, Tina, Tina!
2109
01:50:11,814 --> 01:50:14,691
[cheers and applause]
2110
01:50:14,775 --> 01:50:18,362
Tina, Tina, Tina, Tina!
2111
01:50:18,570 --> 01:50:21,448
[cheers and applause]
2112
01:50:21,532 --> 01:50:26,245
♪ ♪
2113
01:50:30,833 --> 01:50:35,796
- What I gleaned
from her life was love...
2114
01:50:36,547 --> 01:50:39,007
love of self,
love of her family,
2115
01:50:39,091 --> 01:50:41,802
love of her talent,
2116
01:50:41,885 --> 01:50:43,595
love of audiences,
2117
01:50:43,679 --> 01:50:46,181
of music, of freedom.
2118
01:50:46,473 --> 01:50:50,269
[sweeping instrumentals]
2119
01:50:50,352 --> 01:50:52,938
♪ ♪
2120
01:50:53,105 --> 01:50:54,815
There's a part of her,
I guess,
2121
01:50:54,898 --> 01:50:57,401
that we've all laid claim to,
2122
01:50:57,526 --> 01:50:59,862
we've all embraced
across the world.
2123
01:51:00,195 --> 01:51:02,781
And I hope she knows that,
you know,
2124
01:51:02,865 --> 01:51:05,033
how beloved,
how loved she is.
2125
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:09,288
She is absolutely adored.
2126
01:51:09,371 --> 01:51:11,415
[music rises]
2127
01:51:11,582 --> 01:51:14,251
[cheers and applause]
2128
01:51:14,334 --> 01:51:19,548
♪ ♪
2129
01:51:50,996 --> 01:51:54,791
[loud cheers and applause]
2130
01:51:57,044 --> 01:52:02,466
♪ ♪
2131
01:52:34,915 --> 01:52:36,792
[music ends]
2132
01:52:47,761 --> 01:52:49,596
[cheers and applause]
2133
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:53,433
["The Best" playing]
2134
01:52:53,517 --> 01:52:59,523
♪ ♪
2135
01:53:07,030 --> 01:53:09,032
- ♪ I'll call you
when I need you ♪
2136
01:53:09,116 --> 01:53:11,493
♪ My heart's on fire ♪
2137
01:53:11,618 --> 01:53:15,747
♪ ♪
2138
01:53:15,831 --> 01:53:18,000
♪ Come to me, come to me ♪
2139
01:53:18,083 --> 01:53:20,085
♪ Wild and wired ♪
2140
01:53:20,294 --> 01:53:23,672
♪ ♪
2141
01:53:23,755 --> 01:53:25,173
♪ You come to me ♪
2142
01:53:26,967 --> 01:53:29,970
♪ Give me everything I need ♪
2143
01:53:30,637 --> 01:53:32,681
♪ ♪
2144
01:53:32,764 --> 01:53:35,100
♪ Give me a lifetime
of promises ♪
2145
01:53:35,183 --> 01:53:37,477
♪ And a world of dreams ♪
2146
01:53:37,561 --> 01:53:41,189
♪ ♪
2147
01:53:41,356 --> 01:53:43,317
♪ Speak the language of love ♪
2148
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:46,278
♪ Like you know what it means ♪
2149
01:53:46,445 --> 01:53:49,573
♪ ♪
2150
01:53:49,740 --> 01:53:51,533
♪ And it can't be wrong ♪
2151
01:53:52,868 --> 01:53:56,580
♪ Take my heart
and make it strong, baby ♪
2152
01:53:58,040 --> 01:53:59,916
♪ You're simply the best ♪
2153
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:02,669
♪ ♪
2154
01:54:02,753 --> 01:54:05,213
♪ Better than all the rest ♪
2155
01:54:06,965 --> 01:54:09,551
♪ Better than anyone ♪
2156
01:54:11,053 --> 01:54:13,764
♪ Than anyone I've ever met ♪
2157
01:54:15,432 --> 01:54:17,934
♪ I'm stuck
on your heart, babe ♪
2158
01:54:19,686 --> 01:54:22,481
♪ And I hang on
every word you say ♪
2159
01:54:24,441 --> 01:54:25,901
♪ Tear us apart ♪
2160
01:54:26,318 --> 01:54:27,277
♪ Oh, no ♪
2161
01:54:28,820 --> 01:54:32,115
♪ Baby, I would rather
be dead ♪
2162
01:54:33,700 --> 01:54:35,702
♪ In your heart,
I see the start ♪
2163
01:54:35,786 --> 01:54:37,454
♪ Of every night
and every day ♪
2164
01:54:37,537 --> 01:54:38,455
- ♪ Oh, yeah ♪
2165
01:54:38,538 --> 01:54:41,917
♪ ♪
2166
01:54:42,209 --> 01:54:44,461
- ♪ In your eyes, I get lost ♪
2167
01:54:44,544 --> 01:54:46,588
♪ I get washed away ♪
2168
01:54:46,671 --> 01:54:50,967
♪ ♪
2169
01:54:51,051 --> 01:54:54,262
♪ Just as long as
I'm here in your arms ♪
2170
01:54:54,346 --> 01:54:57,391
♪ I could be
in no better place ♪
2171
01:54:58,558 --> 01:55:00,602
♪ Oh, you're simply the best ♪
2172
01:55:00,685 --> 01:55:01,728
Whoo!
2173
01:55:03,397 --> 01:55:06,274
♪ Better than all the rest ♪
2174
01:55:06,441 --> 01:55:07,484
Whoo!
2175
01:55:07,776 --> 01:55:10,487
♪ Better than anyone ♪
2176
01:55:11,905 --> 01:55:14,783
♪ Than anyone I've ever met ♪
2177
01:55:15,909 --> 01:55:18,662
♪ Ooh, I'm stuck
on your heart ♪
2178
01:55:18,745 --> 01:55:20,872
♪ ♪
2179
01:55:20,956 --> 01:55:23,500
♪ And I hang on
every word you say ♪
2180
01:55:24,709 --> 01:55:26,753
♪ Don't tear us apart ♪
2181
01:55:27,254 --> 01:55:28,296
♪ Oh, no ♪
2182
01:55:29,714 --> 01:55:32,759
♪ Baby, I would rather
be dead ♪
2183
01:55:32,968 --> 01:55:35,262
♪ ♪
2184
01:55:35,387 --> 01:55:38,932
♪ Each time you leave me
I start losing control ♪
2185
01:55:39,266 --> 01:55:43,228
♪ You're walkin' away
with my heart and my soul ♪
2186
01:55:44,229 --> 01:55:47,691
♪ I can feel you
even when I'm alone ♪
2187
01:55:48,275 --> 01:55:49,776
♪ Oh, baby ♪
2188
01:55:50,277 --> 01:55:52,571
♪ Don't let go ♪
2189
01:55:52,654 --> 01:55:53,655
Whoo!
2190
01:55:53,905 --> 01:55:59,119
♪ ♪
2191
01:56:02,914 --> 01:56:03,915
♪ Oh! ♪
2192
01:56:04,207 --> 01:56:07,586
Both:
♪ Oh! Oh! Oh! ♪
2193
01:56:08,962 --> 01:56:11,506
- ♪ You're the best ♪
Sing it, everybody!
2194
01:56:12,924 --> 01:56:15,594
♪ You're better
than all the rest ♪
2195
01:56:17,471 --> 01:56:19,931
♪ Better than anyone ♪
2196
01:56:21,516 --> 01:56:24,352
♪ Than anyone I've ever met ♪
2197
01:56:25,395 --> 01:56:28,565
♪ Ooh, I'm stuck
on your heart, baby ♪
2198
01:56:30,275 --> 01:56:32,777
♪ And I hang
on every word you say ♪
2199
01:56:34,529 --> 01:56:36,323
♪ Don't tear us apart ♪
2200
01:56:36,740 --> 01:56:37,908
♪ No, no ♪
2201
01:56:39,284 --> 01:56:42,287
♪ Baby, I would rather
be dead ♪
2202
01:56:42,871 --> 01:56:44,998
♪ Oh, you're the best ♪
2203
01:56:45,415 --> 01:56:51,421
♪ ♪
2204
01:57:04,684 --> 01:57:07,229
♪ Yeah, simply the best, yeah ♪
2205
01:57:08,063 --> 01:57:09,147
♪ Oh ♪
2206
01:57:09,356 --> 01:57:12,025
♪ You're better than
all the rest ♪
2207
01:57:13,985 --> 01:57:16,321
♪ Better than anyone ♪
2208
01:57:17,739 --> 01:57:20,700
♪ Than anyone I ever met ♪
2209
01:57:21,826 --> 01:57:25,038
♪ I'm stuck on your heart,
baby ♪
2210
01:57:26,623 --> 01:57:29,292
♪ And I hang on
every word you say ♪
2211
01:57:30,794 --> 01:57:33,838
♪ Don't tear us apart,
no, no ♪
2212
01:57:35,674 --> 01:57:38,385
♪ Baby, I would rather
be dead ♪
2213
01:57:39,052 --> 01:57:41,096
♪ Oh, you're the best ♪
2214
01:57:41,513 --> 01:57:44,057
[cheers and applause]
2215
01:57:44,140 --> 01:57:49,104
♪ ♪
2216
01:57:49,646 --> 01:57:50,855
[end chords]
2217
01:57:50,981 --> 01:57:53,066
[cheers and applause]
2218
01:57:53,149 --> 01:57:54,401
Thank you!
2219
01:57:58,405 --> 01:58:02,200
[cheers and applause fade]