1 00:00:02,563 --> 00:00:05,603 Fred dinenage (narrates): March 22, 1997, 2 00:00:05,643 --> 00:00:09,003 downtown eastside Vancouver, Canada, 3 00:00:11,203 --> 00:00:13,243 her street name was 'stitch' 4 00:00:13,283 --> 00:00:15,523 she was working the corner of Cordova 5 00:00:15,563 --> 00:00:16,923 and princes Avenue. 6 00:00:19,003 --> 00:00:24,243 A 31-year-old mother of two with a serious drug habit, 7 00:00:24,283 --> 00:00:27,203 selling her body was the quickest way 8 00:00:27,243 --> 00:00:28,283 to the next high. 9 00:00:30,243 --> 00:00:32,243 They were doing the best 10 00:00:32,283 --> 00:00:35,843 they could with the circumstances in their lives at the time. 11 00:00:37,003 --> 00:00:39,043 An old pickup truck approached, 12 00:00:39,083 --> 00:00:43,603 the driver flashed some cash and stitch got in. 13 00:00:43,643 --> 00:00:44,819 A straightforward transaction, 14 00:00:44,843 --> 00:00:47,603 a barter, money for sex, 15 00:00:47,643 --> 00:00:51,283 the driver was 47-year-old Robert 'Willy' pickton 16 00:00:51,323 --> 00:00:55,443 who drove stitch seventeen miles east to his pig farm. 17 00:00:55,483 --> 00:00:59,203 Her gut instinct, was just telling her, 18 00:00:59,243 --> 00:01:01,443 "don't go, don't go out there." 19 00:01:01,483 --> 00:01:03,603 They had sex in his filthy trailer 20 00:01:03,643 --> 00:01:07,523 then stitch asked if she could use the phone. 21 00:01:07,563 --> 00:01:08,763 He attacks her. 22 00:01:08,803 --> 00:01:11,363 He puts a handcuff around her left wrist 23 00:01:11,403 --> 00:01:13,483 and stabs her in the abdomen. 24 00:01:13,523 --> 00:01:16,763 She's spirited and she fights back. 25 00:01:16,803 --> 00:01:19,123 A proper fight ensues. 26 00:01:19,163 --> 00:01:21,003 She's stabbed, he's stabbed. 27 00:01:22,163 --> 00:01:23,643 Blood is all over the trailer. 28 00:01:25,163 --> 00:01:28,003 Stitch escaped with four stab wounds, 29 00:01:28,043 --> 00:01:30,643 she was critically injured but alive. 30 00:01:31,883 --> 00:01:35,563 Pickton had been sloppy, this one had got away. 31 00:01:38,323 --> 00:01:42,923 Over the next five years at least 49 other women 32 00:01:42,963 --> 00:01:44,683 wouldn't be so lucky, 33 00:01:46,523 --> 00:01:48,443 making Robert pickton 34 00:01:48,483 --> 00:01:51,723 one of the world's most evil killers. 35 00:02:10,763 --> 00:02:12,923 (Theme music) 36 00:02:12,963 --> 00:02:17,163 1990's port coquitlam, Vancouver, 37 00:02:17,203 --> 00:02:20,803 Robert 'Willy' pickton had spent his entire life 38 00:02:20,843 --> 00:02:23,803 living and working on the family pig farm. 39 00:02:25,603 --> 00:02:30,323 This is a man who is not integrated into society. 40 00:02:30,363 --> 00:02:33,683 He's a man who lives in a trailer in the midst of his farm, 41 00:02:33,723 --> 00:02:39,283 who is trained as a butcher, who in a way rejects society. 42 00:02:40,603 --> 00:02:44,603 His only sexual outlet was with women working the streets 43 00:02:44,643 --> 00:02:48,563 of downtown eastside, Vancouver. 44 00:02:48,603 --> 00:02:51,323 Women who sold sex for survival. 45 00:02:53,763 --> 00:02:56,403 The kind of dynamics of the drug addiction 46 00:02:56,443 --> 00:02:58,283 and the poverty, 47 00:02:58,323 --> 00:03:01,243 and then the risky nature of some of their customers 48 00:03:01,283 --> 00:03:04,643 made them more vulnerable to violence 49 00:03:04,683 --> 00:03:08,163 either from single individuals or serial predators. 50 00:03:10,083 --> 00:03:12,683 Pickton was one of those predators, 51 00:03:12,723 --> 00:03:16,083 who hunted women relentlessly. 52 00:03:16,123 --> 00:03:18,603 Pickton was targeting sex workers 53 00:03:18,643 --> 00:03:21,483 because sex workers are easy to access. 54 00:03:21,523 --> 00:03:24,643 They're going to readily get into your car, 55 00:03:24,683 --> 00:03:28,123 they are going to readily go somewhere with you. 56 00:03:28,163 --> 00:03:29,883 They are out there to be treated 57 00:03:29,923 --> 00:03:31,563 how you want to treat them. 58 00:03:31,603 --> 00:03:35,563 They are worthless, you know, they are less than human. 59 00:03:35,603 --> 00:03:39,723 The pig farm gave him the perfect cover for his depravity. 60 00:03:40,923 --> 00:03:44,563 Women would disappear and hardly anyone noticed. 61 00:03:45,723 --> 00:03:48,883 For society to allow that to continue 62 00:03:48,923 --> 00:03:52,443 for at least a decade unfettered at this farm 63 00:03:52,483 --> 00:03:55,403 that was surrounded by dozens of houses, 64 00:03:55,443 --> 00:03:56,803 it's mind boggling. 65 00:03:56,843 --> 00:03:58,923 It's awful. 66 00:04:07,443 --> 00:04:11,123 This killer's story begins in 1949. 67 00:04:13,003 --> 00:04:17,523 Robert 'Willy' pickton was born on October 24 68 00:04:17,563 --> 00:04:20,163 to Leonard and Helen Louise, 69 00:04:20,203 --> 00:04:23,243 a family of pig farmers in port coquitlam, 70 00:04:23,283 --> 00:04:26,323 on the outskirts of Vancouver. 71 00:04:26,363 --> 00:04:28,203 He was one of three children. 72 00:04:29,483 --> 00:04:32,283 He was the elder of two brothers. 73 00:04:32,323 --> 00:04:35,523 They had an elder sister called Linda, 74 00:04:35,563 --> 00:04:37,323 who had been sent away, 75 00:04:37,363 --> 00:04:41,243 and they didn't think a girl should be brought up on a pig farm 76 00:04:41,283 --> 00:04:43,003 and so Linda was dispatched to Vancouver, 77 00:04:43,043 --> 00:04:45,443 which is about 17 miles away. 78 00:04:45,483 --> 00:04:46,923 The boys are brought up on the farm. 79 00:04:48,843 --> 00:04:52,363 Pickton's mother was very much a workaholic, 80 00:04:52,403 --> 00:04:54,363 she was a very industrious woman. 81 00:04:54,403 --> 00:04:58,083 This had a significant impact on her children 82 00:04:58,123 --> 00:05:01,723 because they had to work in this family business. 83 00:05:01,763 --> 00:05:06,083 So, the children didn't really get much of a chance to be children, 84 00:05:06,123 --> 00:05:08,843 to be carefree, to run around and play 85 00:05:08,883 --> 00:05:11,123 with their friends and that kind of thing. 86 00:05:12,603 --> 00:05:16,243 She was the decisive force in the family. 87 00:05:16,283 --> 00:05:18,203 Leonard was more remote, 88 00:05:18,243 --> 00:05:20,363 some said he was abusive to the boys, 89 00:05:20,403 --> 00:05:24,203 I think he was probably just a victorian father 90 00:05:24,243 --> 00:05:25,723 in a rather old-fashioned sense. 91 00:05:27,283 --> 00:05:32,443 The boys were really less important to their mother than the pigs. 92 00:05:33,483 --> 00:05:35,603 They were certainly not treated particularly well. 93 00:05:37,283 --> 00:05:41,123 There was some suggestion that he was always striving 94 00:05:41,163 --> 00:05:44,723 for approval from his parents and from his brother, 95 00:05:44,763 --> 00:05:48,643 and that he was a fairly weak young boy 96 00:05:48,683 --> 00:05:51,123 with not a lot of confidence. 97 00:05:51,163 --> 00:05:55,043 He struggled in school, he struggled to make friends. 98 00:05:55,083 --> 00:05:57,843 He very much relied on his brother David 99 00:05:57,883 --> 00:06:00,403 for many things in life. 100 00:06:00,443 --> 00:06:03,203 Pickton was known by the other children 101 00:06:03,243 --> 00:06:04,523 at school as somebody 102 00:06:04,563 --> 00:06:07,363 with incredibly poor personal hygiene, 103 00:06:07,403 --> 00:06:10,163 and this is something that his family were... 104 00:06:10,203 --> 00:06:13,243 Were not particularly stringent about either. 105 00:06:13,283 --> 00:06:17,563 So, it was normal in this household to perhaps not wash 106 00:06:17,603 --> 00:06:19,443 and... and not look after yourself 107 00:06:19,483 --> 00:06:22,683 and not change your clothes as much as other people did. 108 00:06:22,723 --> 00:06:25,443 This is something that would have really excluded him 109 00:06:25,483 --> 00:06:26,803 from his peer group. 110 00:06:26,843 --> 00:06:30,523 He's that kid that smells, he's that kid that's not like us. 111 00:06:38,203 --> 00:06:42,283 He has a prized calf that he considers a pet. 112 00:06:43,963 --> 00:06:46,043 He's a child, and he's considering this as his pet. 113 00:06:47,643 --> 00:06:48,923 This isn't livestock. 114 00:06:51,163 --> 00:06:52,523 He comes home from school one day 115 00:06:52,563 --> 00:06:55,483 and finds out his dad has slaughtered his pet calf 116 00:06:55,523 --> 00:06:59,283 and he's just devastated. 117 00:07:02,763 --> 00:07:03,923 He has learned 118 00:07:03,963 --> 00:07:07,643 that I am not going to get close to anything anymore. 119 00:07:07,683 --> 00:07:09,763 I'm not going to love or care for anything 120 00:07:09,803 --> 00:07:12,923 because when I do that, that is going to get taken away. 121 00:07:18,363 --> 00:07:20,803 The boys learned to drive on the farm 122 00:07:20,843 --> 00:07:23,123 when they were still children. 123 00:07:23,163 --> 00:07:27,363 One day pickton's brother Dave accidentally hit a young boy 124 00:07:27,403 --> 00:07:29,363 on a road close to the farm, 125 00:07:29,403 --> 00:07:31,563 he ran to find their mother. 126 00:07:32,883 --> 00:07:35,683 And she disposed of the victim's body in a lake 127 00:07:35,723 --> 00:07:37,163 before he'd even died. 128 00:07:38,683 --> 00:07:40,283 Now, this is a really significant thing 129 00:07:40,323 --> 00:07:43,123 to witness to see as a young person, 130 00:07:43,163 --> 00:07:47,403 because this shows you how not to do things. 131 00:07:47,443 --> 00:07:49,243 It also sends a message out to him 132 00:07:49,283 --> 00:07:51,603 that the other people's lives are not valuable. 133 00:07:52,883 --> 00:07:54,763 Pickton was somebody who was used to death, 134 00:07:54,803 --> 00:07:58,363 he was surrounded by it on the farm, in the slaughterhouse, 135 00:07:58,403 --> 00:08:00,963 but this was the death of animals. 136 00:08:01,003 --> 00:08:02,539 When we're looking at the hit and run, 137 00:08:02,563 --> 00:08:03,963 this is a human being. 138 00:08:04,003 --> 00:08:08,123 And the fact that his mother shows such contempt for the life 139 00:08:08,163 --> 00:08:10,123 and for the dignity of a human being 140 00:08:10,163 --> 00:08:12,323 is a message that is going to stick with him. 141 00:08:13,603 --> 00:08:16,203 So, all of these things are playing a role 142 00:08:16,243 --> 00:08:18,243 in shaping his value system. 143 00:08:19,803 --> 00:08:21,763 As a teenager pickton spent 144 00:08:21,803 --> 00:08:24,923 over six years as a butcher's apprentice. 145 00:08:27,003 --> 00:08:31,843 By 1970 at the age of 21 he was working full time 146 00:08:31,883 --> 00:08:34,443 on the family pig farm. 147 00:08:34,483 --> 00:08:38,003 In 1978 his father died, 148 00:08:38,043 --> 00:08:40,643 followed by his mother a year later, 149 00:08:40,683 --> 00:08:43,643 leaving the family estate to their children. 150 00:08:45,363 --> 00:08:47,043 Robert 'Willy' pickton 151 00:08:47,083 --> 00:08:49,563 was the only one of the three siblings 152 00:08:49,603 --> 00:08:52,523 who had any interest in keeping the business running. 153 00:08:57,003 --> 00:09:00,843 This farm was not an idyllic beautiful pasture. 154 00:09:00,883 --> 00:09:06,643 It was just absolutely cluttered with old broken-down vehicles 155 00:09:06,683 --> 00:09:10,483 and garbage and debris and outbuildings 156 00:09:10,523 --> 00:09:15,163 that were stuffed full of all sorts of, 157 00:09:15,203 --> 00:09:17,203 you know, derelict things. 158 00:09:17,243 --> 00:09:18,923 Amidst all of this, 159 00:09:18,963 --> 00:09:23,243 Willy pickton lived in a very rundown trailer by himself. 160 00:09:25,323 --> 00:09:27,963 I think it would be fair to say that Willy pickton 161 00:09:28,003 --> 00:09:29,523 wasn't very attractive to women. 162 00:09:29,563 --> 00:09:30,923 I'm not entirely surprised. 163 00:09:32,163 --> 00:09:36,763 He was a messy, ugly, man who stank. 164 00:09:36,803 --> 00:09:38,683 There's no two ways about it. 165 00:09:38,723 --> 00:09:42,563 He's said to have put butter in his hair to smooth it back. 166 00:09:44,563 --> 00:09:46,163 If you look at any picture of him, 167 00:09:46,203 --> 00:09:51,283 he was grubby, stubbly, rather ugly. 168 00:09:51,323 --> 00:09:53,683 He wasn't anybody's idea of a boyfriend. 169 00:09:54,803 --> 00:09:57,203 He wasn't a man for relationships. 170 00:09:57,243 --> 00:09:59,683 He was a loner in every way and knew it. 171 00:10:00,843 --> 00:10:05,843 In 1994, the pickton farm on the outskirts of Vancouver 172 00:10:05,883 --> 00:10:08,203 was prime real estate. 173 00:10:08,243 --> 00:10:10,163 The brothers sold some of their land 174 00:10:10,203 --> 00:10:12,683 for around $2 million. 175 00:10:13,883 --> 00:10:16,723 For pickton, if he wanted a woman, 176 00:10:16,763 --> 00:10:20,123 he now had more than enough money to pay for her. 177 00:10:25,163 --> 00:10:29,803 1995 downtown eastside Vancouver, 178 00:10:31,003 --> 00:10:34,843 known as the poorest zip code in urban Canada, 179 00:10:34,883 --> 00:10:39,003 it was here that Willy pickton found what he was looking for. 180 00:10:42,243 --> 00:10:45,043 Low track is literally the cheapest area of the city. 181 00:10:45,083 --> 00:10:48,043 Vancouver at that time had a number of strolls 182 00:10:48,083 --> 00:10:49,923 for street sex trade workers 183 00:10:49,963 --> 00:10:53,403 and some were very expensive, and others were very cheap, 184 00:10:53,443 --> 00:10:54,603 and these were the cheapest. 185 00:10:54,643 --> 00:10:56,123 These were drug addicted women. 186 00:10:57,363 --> 00:11:00,803 Many of them were engaged in very risky behaviour 187 00:11:00,843 --> 00:11:03,003 because of the nature of the area 188 00:11:03,043 --> 00:11:04,723 and the type of customers they would get. 189 00:11:06,563 --> 00:11:09,083 This was survival sex work. 190 00:11:09,123 --> 00:11:10,139 These women were, you know, 191 00:11:10,163 --> 00:11:12,083 they weren't out there because they enjoyed it. 192 00:11:13,163 --> 00:11:14,243 They weren't out there 193 00:11:14,283 --> 00:11:17,683 because it was a choice for many of them. 194 00:11:17,723 --> 00:11:19,963 They were out there to survive 195 00:11:20,003 --> 00:11:24,403 and to make enough money most of the time to feed 196 00:11:24,443 --> 00:11:26,963 an addiction or just to survive. 197 00:11:28,923 --> 00:11:31,803 Normally prostitutes were very worried about money 198 00:11:31,843 --> 00:11:33,123 because time is money, 199 00:11:33,163 --> 00:11:36,523 are not willing to go great distances to engage in a sex act. 200 00:11:36,563 --> 00:11:39,323 But pickton was actually reasonably wealthy, 201 00:11:39,363 --> 00:11:42,523 and he was able to convince them because again, 202 00:11:42,563 --> 00:11:44,843 they were drug addicted and he offered them money 203 00:11:44,883 --> 00:11:47,363 and was able to get them to come back to his farm. 204 00:11:49,563 --> 00:11:51,443 That was his sexual outlet 205 00:11:51,483 --> 00:11:54,763 because he was paying them. 206 00:11:54,803 --> 00:11:57,283 It was a straightforward transaction, 207 00:11:57,323 --> 00:12:00,843 a barter, money for sex, whatever kind of sex it would be. 208 00:12:06,843 --> 00:12:10,963 In 1996, the younger pickton brother Dave 209 00:12:11,003 --> 00:12:13,763 established a nightclub close to the pig farm, 210 00:12:15,363 --> 00:12:19,963 called piggy's palace good time society. 211 00:12:20,003 --> 00:12:22,803 Piggy's palace was a nicely built, 212 00:12:22,843 --> 00:12:24,603 illegal after hours, 213 00:12:24,643 --> 00:12:27,043 speakeasy or bar where were... were frequented 214 00:12:27,083 --> 00:12:29,323 by people in that area, 215 00:12:30,363 --> 00:12:34,123 but that was his brother's property, not his property. 216 00:12:35,763 --> 00:12:38,443 And they would invite all manner of people to these. 217 00:12:38,483 --> 00:12:41,603 At one point, it was estimated that they have 2,000 people 218 00:12:41,643 --> 00:12:44,363 at a rave on their farm. 219 00:12:46,563 --> 00:12:51,483 It was good time city, we're all going to enjoy ourselves. 220 00:12:53,283 --> 00:12:58,083 There was a lot of anecdotal talk of sex parties, 221 00:12:58,123 --> 00:13:02,203 drug parties, parties where a lot of sex workers would be... 222 00:13:02,243 --> 00:13:05,443 Would be brought to the farm to party later, 223 00:13:05,483 --> 00:13:09,403 kind of, in an afterhours, kind of, club in pickton's trailer. 224 00:13:10,443 --> 00:13:13,043 There was probably quite a lot of all manner of things 225 00:13:13,083 --> 00:13:16,243 going on it was the first time I think 226 00:13:16,283 --> 00:13:19,243 that Willy pickton had felt integrated. 227 00:13:19,283 --> 00:13:21,203 He was in his late 30s. 228 00:13:21,243 --> 00:13:22,763 He's suddenly discovered, 229 00:13:22,803 --> 00:13:25,643 "oh, I've got friends pleased to see me." 230 00:13:26,803 --> 00:13:29,083 I think it gave him something extra. 231 00:13:29,123 --> 00:13:31,163 All those people who turned up to the raves 232 00:13:31,203 --> 00:13:34,443 and the dances and the new year's Eve party 233 00:13:34,483 --> 00:13:35,883 at piggy palace, 234 00:13:36,883 --> 00:13:40,083 they must have thought pickton was pretty alright. 235 00:13:41,243 --> 00:13:42,683 Otherwise, why would they have gone? 236 00:13:46,883 --> 00:13:50,323 On march 22, 1997, 237 00:13:50,363 --> 00:13:53,563 pickton was cruising the downtown eastside 238 00:13:53,603 --> 00:13:58,843 when he saw a 31-year-old sex worker whose street name was 'stitch'. 239 00:14:01,283 --> 00:14:04,483 She had a fairly... fairly heavy cocaine addiction at the time. 240 00:14:06,363 --> 00:14:11,403 They made a deal for $100, for sex, 241 00:14:11,443 --> 00:14:15,363 which is an astronomical sum for the women 242 00:14:15,403 --> 00:14:17,763 in the downtown eastside for any of the sex workers there. 243 00:14:20,003 --> 00:14:21,259 A lot of the women don't like to leave 244 00:14:21,283 --> 00:14:22,323 the downtown eastside. 245 00:14:22,363 --> 00:14:23,723 They're nervous and rightfully so, 246 00:14:25,163 --> 00:14:28,683 but she thought, $100, that is a lot of money. 247 00:14:31,483 --> 00:14:32,483 Her gut instinct, 248 00:14:32,523 --> 00:14:35,003 as they were driving out to port coquitlam 249 00:14:35,043 --> 00:14:37,923 and in pickton's pickup truck, was just telling her, 250 00:14:39,003 --> 00:14:41,243 "don't go, don't go out there." 251 00:14:41,283 --> 00:14:43,523 And she said she was sitting in the truck 252 00:14:43,563 --> 00:14:45,099 and she was sort of looking down at her feet 253 00:14:45,123 --> 00:14:47,163 and he was driving, and he wasn't talking, 254 00:14:47,203 --> 00:14:48,363 he was very quiet. 255 00:14:48,403 --> 00:14:52,683 And she started to think that she wanted to jump out 256 00:14:52,723 --> 00:14:54,083 when the vehicle slowed down. 257 00:14:56,163 --> 00:14:59,803 Pickton brought stitch to his trailer on the pig farm. 258 00:15:01,043 --> 00:15:02,403 Sex duly takes place 259 00:15:03,763 --> 00:15:06,283 but then she asks him for the phone book. 260 00:15:06,323 --> 00:15:08,323 (Eerie music) 261 00:15:11,003 --> 00:15:12,883 He attacks her. 262 00:15:12,923 --> 00:15:15,563 He puts a handcuff around her left wrist 263 00:15:15,603 --> 00:15:17,003 and stabs her in the abdomen. 264 00:15:18,043 --> 00:15:21,243 She's spirited and she fights back. 265 00:15:21,283 --> 00:15:23,163 A proper fight ensues. 266 00:15:24,203 --> 00:15:26,363 She's stabbed, he's stabbed. 267 00:15:26,403 --> 00:15:28,043 Blood is all over the trailer. 268 00:15:30,283 --> 00:15:32,123 But at that point, he seems to, 269 00:15:32,163 --> 00:15:33,523 kind of, blackout, 270 00:15:33,563 --> 00:15:35,923 and she has an opportunity and she's out the door, 271 00:15:35,963 --> 00:15:36,963 and down the steps 272 00:15:37,003 --> 00:15:40,163 and she is running a couple of hundred metres out 273 00:15:40,203 --> 00:15:41,363 to the main road. 274 00:15:41,403 --> 00:15:43,643 She was able to get away 275 00:15:43,683 --> 00:15:45,963 from him and ran through the farm 276 00:15:46,003 --> 00:15:48,883 and onto the nearest road, 277 00:15:48,923 --> 00:15:51,563 where she stopped a car coming down the street. 278 00:15:51,603 --> 00:15:52,643 And you can imagine, 279 00:15:52,683 --> 00:15:56,483 she was naked with one handcuff dangling 280 00:15:56,523 --> 00:15:59,603 from one wrist and completely covered in blood 281 00:15:59,643 --> 00:16:02,483 and screaming for her life. 282 00:16:02,523 --> 00:16:04,083 They called 911 on the cell phone, 283 00:16:04,123 --> 00:16:06,923 an ambulance met them shortly down the road. 284 00:16:06,963 --> 00:16:10,563 And she was placed in the ambulance, taken off to the hospital. 285 00:16:10,603 --> 00:16:13,523 And she almost died on the operating table a couple of different times, 286 00:16:13,563 --> 00:16:15,723 before they actually managed to save her. 287 00:16:19,123 --> 00:16:23,083 As stitch fought for her life in surgery pickton arrived 288 00:16:23,123 --> 00:16:26,003 at the same hospital seeking treatment, 289 00:16:27,203 --> 00:16:28,963 as he was attended to, 290 00:16:29,003 --> 00:16:32,403 an orderly found a key in his pocket, 291 00:16:32,443 --> 00:16:37,243 it unlocked the handcuffs still attached to stitch. 292 00:16:37,283 --> 00:16:39,843 Pickton was charged with attempted murder, 293 00:16:39,883 --> 00:16:43,363 assault, and the forcible confinement of stitch. 294 00:16:44,483 --> 00:16:48,443 But sadly, for her and for the case, 295 00:16:49,643 --> 00:16:52,803 she had a severe addiction problem. 296 00:16:52,843 --> 00:16:57,323 And eventually, the prosecution withdrew the case against pickton 297 00:16:57,363 --> 00:17:00,163 because she wasn't capable of giving coherent evidence. 298 00:17:01,203 --> 00:17:03,523 Eventually, the case was dismissed. 299 00:17:05,443 --> 00:17:08,723 Pickton had got away with attempted murder. 300 00:17:10,243 --> 00:17:11,803 It reinforces for him, 301 00:17:11,843 --> 00:17:14,843 his beliefs about these women that they are low status, 302 00:17:14,883 --> 00:17:16,083 that they are low value, 303 00:17:16,123 --> 00:17:17,443 that if you hurt them there 304 00:17:17,483 --> 00:17:19,883 aren't going to be any consequences for you, 305 00:17:19,923 --> 00:17:22,443 so they're fair game now. 306 00:17:22,483 --> 00:17:25,723 Stitch had escaped the pig farm alive, 307 00:17:25,763 --> 00:17:28,123 she was one of the lucky ones. 308 00:17:29,483 --> 00:17:32,443 Other women working the downtown eastside, 309 00:17:32,483 --> 00:17:35,803 weren't so fortunate, they had disappeared. 310 00:17:37,283 --> 00:17:39,763 Detective inspector Kim rossmo, 311 00:17:39,803 --> 00:17:42,083 a geographic profiling expert 312 00:17:42,123 --> 00:17:46,283 with the Vancouver police was assigned to investigate. 313 00:17:47,643 --> 00:17:51,603 I was able to obtain data going back about 20 years 314 00:17:51,643 --> 00:17:54,563 on the number of unfound missing persons, 315 00:17:54,603 --> 00:17:56,723 particularly women from the area of interest, 316 00:17:56,763 --> 00:17:58,683 which is our skid road area. 317 00:17:58,723 --> 00:18:02,123 And the answer was we would have zero, 318 00:18:02,163 --> 00:18:05,883 one, or two at the most cases in a year, 319 00:18:05,923 --> 00:18:08,443 until we hit 1995. 320 00:18:08,483 --> 00:18:11,723 Then we began to see a spike that carried on, 321 00:18:11,763 --> 00:18:13,603 and depending on where you draw the cut off, 322 00:18:13,643 --> 00:18:16,163 it was 27 or 28 cases, 323 00:18:16,203 --> 00:18:19,523 which was way too many compared to what we've seen in the past. 324 00:18:20,643 --> 00:18:22,963 This was, to put it scientifically, 325 00:18:23,003 --> 00:18:26,603 a statistically significant spatial temporal cluster, 326 00:18:26,643 --> 00:18:28,523 meaning something was happening 327 00:18:28,563 --> 00:18:31,083 and the next question would be, 328 00:18:31,123 --> 00:18:32,523 you know, what is happening? Why? 329 00:18:32,563 --> 00:18:33,763 What's the cause of this? 330 00:18:35,923 --> 00:18:39,243 On August 30, 1997, 331 00:18:39,283 --> 00:18:41,363 Lynn & Rick frey were at home 332 00:18:41,403 --> 00:18:44,443 in Campbell river on Vancouver island, 333 00:18:45,763 --> 00:18:49,163 waiting for a phone call from their daughter marnie, 334 00:18:50,563 --> 00:18:52,643 it was her 24th birthday. 335 00:18:54,723 --> 00:18:56,019 She called that morning and said, 336 00:18:56,043 --> 00:18:57,219 "oh, do you know what day it is?" 337 00:18:57,243 --> 00:18:58,483 And it was like, "yeah." 338 00:18:58,523 --> 00:19:00,243 She goes, "well, it's my birthday. 339 00:19:00,283 --> 00:19:01,699 "Maybe I'll come home." I said, "great. 340 00:19:01,723 --> 00:19:03,763 "I'll come and get you." 341 00:19:03,803 --> 00:19:04,819 And she said, "no, no, no. 342 00:19:04,843 --> 00:19:06,723 "I won't come out today, maybe tomorrow. 343 00:19:06,763 --> 00:19:08,283 "I'm going to go to a party tonight." 344 00:19:10,523 --> 00:19:13,203 She was a fairly quiet girl, 345 00:19:13,243 --> 00:19:16,243 you know, just typical girl, kind of a little bit, 346 00:19:16,283 --> 00:19:17,283 maybe tomboyish. 347 00:19:17,323 --> 00:19:19,043 She liked the outdoors. 348 00:19:19,083 --> 00:19:21,403 She'd always go fishing, hunting with me, 349 00:19:21,443 --> 00:19:23,243 cutting wood, stuff like that, 350 00:19:23,283 --> 00:19:24,643 you know, like kids like to do. 351 00:19:25,963 --> 00:19:29,163 Very, very much in nature, 352 00:19:29,203 --> 00:19:31,923 an animal lover and animals loved her. 353 00:19:33,883 --> 00:19:37,043 She was already doing the drugs prior to leaving here. 354 00:19:37,083 --> 00:19:40,483 But I didn't realise at the time that it was as bad as it was. 355 00:19:41,803 --> 00:19:43,403 She would come home, 356 00:19:43,443 --> 00:19:45,163 and she looked like she was just tired. 357 00:19:45,203 --> 00:19:47,563 She didn't look like she was all stoned 358 00:19:47,603 --> 00:19:48,843 and needed a rest. 359 00:19:50,563 --> 00:19:53,563 So, then she stayed in Vancouver and every couple of months 360 00:19:53,603 --> 00:19:55,403 I'd go get her and bring her home 361 00:19:55,443 --> 00:19:58,043 and try to convince her to come back to Campbell river. 362 00:19:58,083 --> 00:20:00,363 There was no way she was coming back here. 363 00:20:03,803 --> 00:20:05,683 I know for a fact, 364 00:20:05,723 --> 00:20:07,603 if marnie never got into the drug scene, 365 00:20:07,643 --> 00:20:10,043 she would have never ended up on that farm. 366 00:20:10,083 --> 00:20:11,099 And that's the only reason 367 00:20:11,123 --> 00:20:13,083 she went there was because it was free drugs 368 00:20:13,123 --> 00:20:15,563 and free alcohol, and it was party time. 369 00:20:16,803 --> 00:20:18,643 It was her birthday. 370 00:20:18,683 --> 00:20:22,563 Marnie frey became another missing statistic 371 00:20:22,603 --> 00:20:24,483 from the downtown eastside. 372 00:20:25,963 --> 00:20:30,963 1997 downtown eastside, Vancouver, Canada. 373 00:20:32,203 --> 00:20:35,563 Between 1995 and 1997 374 00:20:35,603 --> 00:20:38,363 at least a dozen women had gone missing, 375 00:20:38,403 --> 00:20:41,123 an unusually high number for the area. 376 00:20:42,523 --> 00:20:44,843 Any effort to explain that cluster 377 00:20:44,883 --> 00:20:47,043 had to account for the following, 378 00:20:47,083 --> 00:20:49,923 why was this occurring now and hadn't occurred before? 379 00:20:51,003 --> 00:20:52,723 Why was it occurring in Vancouver, 380 00:20:52,763 --> 00:20:56,003 but not in other western Canadian cities? 381 00:20:56,043 --> 00:20:58,163 Why were we not finding any bodies? 382 00:20:59,363 --> 00:21:02,043 And finally, why was it only happening to women, 383 00:21:02,083 --> 00:21:03,523 not to men? 384 00:21:03,563 --> 00:21:09,243 In 1998 at least nine more women disappeared from the area. 385 00:21:10,683 --> 00:21:14,203 The Vancouver police missing persons unit 386 00:21:14,243 --> 00:21:17,923 had two or three officers in it trying to deal 387 00:21:17,963 --> 00:21:20,363 with not just the cases in the downtown eastside, 388 00:21:20,403 --> 00:21:24,523 but every person reported missing from the city of Vancouver. 389 00:21:24,563 --> 00:21:26,163 For all intents and purposes, 390 00:21:26,203 --> 00:21:29,843 these cases were not being investigated. 391 00:21:29,883 --> 00:21:31,443 Everyone at the time took the position 392 00:21:31,483 --> 00:21:34,923 that that the victims were sex trade workers, 393 00:21:34,963 --> 00:21:36,723 that they must be transient, 394 00:21:36,763 --> 00:21:40,163 that they must have just picked up and moved on. 395 00:21:47,163 --> 00:21:50,683 On the pig farm life carried on as normal, 396 00:21:50,723 --> 00:21:53,403 it was a busy place for the pickton brothers. 397 00:21:55,843 --> 00:21:58,723 Dave was more social. 398 00:21:58,763 --> 00:22:03,203 He ran the businesses more and Robert was more of an employee. 399 00:22:04,283 --> 00:22:09,763 Outwardly it seemed as though Dave controlled Robert to a large degree, 400 00:22:09,803 --> 00:22:12,603 but those that were quite close to both of them said 401 00:22:12,643 --> 00:22:15,603 that a lot of times it would actually be the other way around. 402 00:22:17,003 --> 00:22:18,323 There was a lot of people coming 403 00:22:18,363 --> 00:22:19,683 and going on the farm, 404 00:22:19,723 --> 00:22:22,163 people who would come to pick up pork 405 00:22:22,203 --> 00:22:24,243 from the pig business. 406 00:22:24,283 --> 00:22:27,723 Just a lot of people coming and going from that property. 407 00:22:31,083 --> 00:22:34,603 Running the pig farm was a bloody business. 408 00:22:34,643 --> 00:22:38,283 Pickton would slaughter and butcher his pigs on site. 409 00:22:40,083 --> 00:22:43,963 He disposed of the carcasses at a meat rendering plant 410 00:22:45,003 --> 00:22:48,763 where small local suppliers disposed of animal waste 411 00:22:48,803 --> 00:22:51,323 with no supervision or paperwork. 412 00:22:53,603 --> 00:22:55,843 He seemed to have a fairly big heart 413 00:22:55,883 --> 00:22:58,123 in terms of people he would try to help out 414 00:22:58,163 --> 00:23:00,083 if someone had been released from jail 415 00:23:00,123 --> 00:23:03,323 and was looking for work, he took in a lot of people to... 416 00:23:03,363 --> 00:23:06,603 To work for cash under the table on the farm. 417 00:23:06,643 --> 00:23:09,003 Some of those people would stay on the farm with him, 418 00:23:09,043 --> 00:23:10,923 sometimes he had a spare room in his trailer 419 00:23:10,963 --> 00:23:12,883 that people could stay in. 420 00:23:12,923 --> 00:23:14,843 He helped a lot of his friends financially 421 00:23:16,723 --> 00:23:20,723 in 1999 one of the friends Willy pickton helped 422 00:23:20,763 --> 00:23:22,923 was Lynn ellingsen. 423 00:23:22,963 --> 00:23:24,763 Lynn was a crack addict 424 00:23:24,803 --> 00:23:28,083 who lived and worked on the farm for several months. 425 00:23:29,643 --> 00:23:32,043 The job gave her a place to stay 426 00:23:32,083 --> 00:23:35,363 and ready cash to satisfy her drug habit. 427 00:23:39,723 --> 00:23:43,203 Ellingsen knew pickton regularly brought sex workers 428 00:23:43,243 --> 00:23:45,163 back to the farm. 429 00:23:45,203 --> 00:23:49,043 She was also aware that women continued to disappear 430 00:23:49,083 --> 00:23:51,683 from the downtown eastside. 431 00:23:51,723 --> 00:23:53,683 But it became very clear 432 00:23:53,723 --> 00:23:56,099 when you started looking into the backgrounds of these women, 433 00:23:56,123 --> 00:23:59,123 that they were entirely not transient, 434 00:23:59,163 --> 00:24:02,923 that they had very small worlds that they lived in. 435 00:24:02,963 --> 00:24:06,203 They worked a certain section of a street. 436 00:24:06,243 --> 00:24:10,403 They picked up their social assistance checks on the same day. 437 00:24:10,443 --> 00:24:12,323 They always picked up, 438 00:24:12,363 --> 00:24:14,723 you know, their methadone or their harm reduction drugs 439 00:24:14,763 --> 00:24:15,763 on the same day. 440 00:24:15,803 --> 00:24:18,563 They always maybe phone their mum on mother's day 441 00:24:18,603 --> 00:24:20,923 or their daughter to wish her a happy birthday. 442 00:24:20,963 --> 00:24:23,763 And in every single one of these cases, 443 00:24:23,803 --> 00:24:27,523 that regular routine by these women just stopped. 444 00:24:27,563 --> 00:24:28,803 It just stopped. 445 00:24:28,843 --> 00:24:31,323 And when you started to look into it, 446 00:24:31,363 --> 00:24:32,923 it became clear that these women 447 00:24:32,963 --> 00:24:35,763 had not picked up and moved on, that they were actually missing. 448 00:24:37,203 --> 00:24:38,619 So, there were a number of problems, 449 00:24:38,643 --> 00:24:41,603 but probably the biggest was the fact 450 00:24:41,643 --> 00:24:43,643 that no bodies had been found. 451 00:24:43,683 --> 00:24:45,923 That's how a murder investigation typically proceeds. 452 00:24:45,963 --> 00:24:47,963 A body's found, it's analysed. 453 00:24:48,003 --> 00:24:50,963 There's forensics that are obtained possibly DNA, 454 00:24:51,003 --> 00:24:52,323 but there've been no bodies, 455 00:24:52,363 --> 00:24:55,843 which was very problematic and very challenging. 456 00:24:57,203 --> 00:25:02,043 No hard evidence made it easy for people to make decisions 457 00:25:02,083 --> 00:25:04,123 that focused on other crime problems. 458 00:25:05,243 --> 00:25:09,083 You combine this with budget cuts that the police agencies were facing 459 00:25:09,123 --> 00:25:13,883 and other murders that took up time and attention and this, 460 00:25:13,923 --> 00:25:16,203 like some other cases, it just, kind of, 461 00:25:16,243 --> 00:25:17,443 fell between the cracks, 462 00:25:17,483 --> 00:25:21,243 even though the available intelligence and evidence pointed 463 00:25:21,283 --> 00:25:22,683 towards a serial killer. 464 00:25:28,403 --> 00:25:31,523 On march 2, 1999, 465 00:25:31,563 --> 00:25:34,003 pickton was cruising downtown 466 00:25:34,043 --> 00:25:37,243 when he saw 34-year-old Georgina papin 467 00:25:37,283 --> 00:25:38,763 working on the streets. 468 00:25:40,763 --> 00:25:43,243 Pickton paid her well to get in the truck 469 00:25:43,283 --> 00:25:45,443 and return to the farm with him, 470 00:25:46,843 --> 00:25:49,483 where they were joined by Lynn ellingsen. 471 00:25:52,083 --> 00:25:54,363 The three of them partied hard, 472 00:25:55,563 --> 00:25:58,003 ellingsen got high and fell asleep. 473 00:26:03,323 --> 00:26:07,243 When she woke up there was a light on in the slaughterhouse, 474 00:26:09,003 --> 00:26:10,723 she went to investigate. 475 00:26:13,003 --> 00:26:16,883 Lynn looked through the door and saw a dead woman, 476 00:26:18,643 --> 00:26:21,283 pickton was gutting her like a pig. 477 00:26:23,083 --> 00:26:25,883 The woman looked like Georgina papin. 478 00:26:28,003 --> 00:26:32,003 Pickton turned to ellingsen, threatening, 479 00:26:32,043 --> 00:26:35,563 "if you say a word about what you've seen, 480 00:26:35,603 --> 00:26:37,483 "you'll end up like she is." 481 00:26:38,683 --> 00:26:42,483 He's effectively butchering his victims. 482 00:26:43,963 --> 00:26:47,803 Time after time, he would kill a sex worker. 483 00:26:47,843 --> 00:26:49,323 He would have sex with them 484 00:26:49,363 --> 00:26:54,283 and then he would kill them and then he would dismember them. 485 00:26:57,963 --> 00:27:01,003 Lynn kept her word and did not report 486 00:27:01,043 --> 00:27:03,523 what she had seen to the police, 487 00:27:03,563 --> 00:27:06,563 but she did tell some of her friends, 488 00:27:06,603 --> 00:27:11,803 and they didn't stay quiet, one of them called the police. 489 00:27:11,843 --> 00:27:14,363 Right away, we wanted to investigate this. 490 00:27:14,403 --> 00:27:15,443 What happened there was, 491 00:27:15,483 --> 00:27:18,283 they brought lynne ellingsen in for an interview, 492 00:27:18,323 --> 00:27:19,483 completely unprepared. 493 00:27:19,523 --> 00:27:21,243 They were unprepared, 494 00:27:21,283 --> 00:27:24,923 they spent virtually 12 minutes with her 495 00:27:24,963 --> 00:27:27,363 to talk to her about this information. 496 00:27:29,003 --> 00:27:32,923 Ellingsen gave the police nothing and was released. 497 00:27:34,483 --> 00:27:36,963 Once she had been questioned in this interview, 498 00:27:37,003 --> 00:27:38,643 she went to him and she said, 499 00:27:38,683 --> 00:27:39,699 "you need to pay me more now 500 00:27:39,723 --> 00:27:42,763 "because I want to take a cruise, 501 00:27:42,803 --> 00:27:45,163 "and the police are breathing down my neck, 502 00:27:45,203 --> 00:27:46,643 "so you need to pay me more." 503 00:27:51,363 --> 00:27:54,643 Women continued to disappear, 504 00:27:54,683 --> 00:27:59,323 31-year-old Brenda wolfe was known as a street enforcer, 505 00:27:59,363 --> 00:28:02,923 she protected the women working the downtown eastside. 506 00:28:04,563 --> 00:28:08,123 Brenda had been an addict who worked the streets 507 00:28:08,163 --> 00:28:10,963 before turning her life around. 508 00:28:11,003 --> 00:28:14,403 She went missing in February 1999. 509 00:28:15,963 --> 00:28:18,043 The fact that police didn't have any leads 510 00:28:18,083 --> 00:28:21,043 would have made pickton feel invincible. 511 00:28:21,083 --> 00:28:24,083 He would have been following these stories in the local media. 512 00:28:24,123 --> 00:28:25,659 He would have been watching the local news 513 00:28:25,683 --> 00:28:27,563 and scanning the local papers to just see 514 00:28:27,603 --> 00:28:30,003 if there was anything about it in there. 515 00:28:30,043 --> 00:28:32,083 When he realised that there wasn't 516 00:28:32,123 --> 00:28:35,603 that reinforces his views about sex workers, 517 00:28:35,643 --> 00:28:37,003 these women don't matter. 518 00:28:37,043 --> 00:28:39,403 They're low status, that they disappear, 519 00:28:39,443 --> 00:28:41,363 and nobody really gives a damn. 520 00:28:43,963 --> 00:28:47,403 The victims of serial killers are more likely to be people 521 00:28:47,443 --> 00:28:49,323 on the fringes of society, 522 00:28:49,363 --> 00:28:52,803 marginal groups and in particular prostitutes. 523 00:28:52,843 --> 00:28:55,083 So, while serial killers are rare, 524 00:28:55,123 --> 00:28:58,523 this was hardly a surprising conclusion. 525 00:28:58,563 --> 00:29:01,083 And... and given the data there wasn't really anything else 526 00:29:01,123 --> 00:29:04,243 that could explain the problem of the missing women. 527 00:29:07,163 --> 00:29:08,923 The way he treated these victims 528 00:29:08,963 --> 00:29:11,763 as if they were pieces of meat really 529 00:29:11,803 --> 00:29:13,883 is outstanding for me. 530 00:29:13,923 --> 00:29:15,243 Here's somebody who... 531 00:29:15,283 --> 00:29:17,283 Who treats the bodies of their victims 532 00:29:17,323 --> 00:29:20,683 as if they are the bodies of... of dead animals. 533 00:29:20,723 --> 00:29:23,323 This is the contempt that he feels for people, 534 00:29:23,363 --> 00:29:25,363 so this is pure evil, 535 00:29:25,403 --> 00:29:29,443 the decision, the choice to do this time and time again. 536 00:29:30,603 --> 00:29:34,963 This horrible looking man with greasy hair, 537 00:29:35,003 --> 00:29:36,803 stubble, 538 00:29:36,843 --> 00:29:38,003 who stank all the time, 539 00:29:39,003 --> 00:29:41,883 was in fact butchering, 540 00:29:41,923 --> 00:29:44,723 and that's the only word for it, entirely innocent women. 541 00:29:46,323 --> 00:29:50,083 There is something profoundly chilling 542 00:29:50,123 --> 00:29:55,443 about that because he showed no sign whatever of wishing to stop. 543 00:29:55,483 --> 00:30:00,603 With no bodies or evidence, pickton had no reason to stop. 544 00:30:02,603 --> 00:30:06,523 Downtown eastside Vancouver, Canada, 545 00:30:06,563 --> 00:30:08,683 with limited official response, 546 00:30:08,723 --> 00:30:11,763 family and friends took the initiative to search 547 00:30:11,803 --> 00:30:13,843 for the missing women. 548 00:30:13,883 --> 00:30:17,963 Lynn and Rick frey had not spoken to their daughter marnie 549 00:30:18,003 --> 00:30:20,603 since the day of her 24th birthday, 550 00:30:20,643 --> 00:30:22,283 over three years ago. 551 00:30:24,923 --> 00:30:26,403 So, I'd go to Vancouver 552 00:30:26,443 --> 00:30:29,603 and it's about a 45-minute drive from where my parents live, 553 00:30:29,643 --> 00:30:32,083 and I'd drive to Vancouver and park the car, 554 00:30:32,123 --> 00:30:33,483 and go looking for her. 555 00:30:33,523 --> 00:30:34,899 And I'd walk up and down the streets, 556 00:30:34,923 --> 00:30:36,403 look in back alleys. 557 00:30:36,443 --> 00:30:37,659 You know, anybody on the street 558 00:30:37,683 --> 00:30:40,483 that was not doing the floppy chicken or, 559 00:30:40,523 --> 00:30:42,563 you know, too stressed out on drugs, 560 00:30:42,603 --> 00:30:44,243 I'd ask them if they've seen her, 561 00:30:44,283 --> 00:30:46,643 and I'd have a picture of marnie in my hand, 562 00:30:46,683 --> 00:30:49,363 and I'd say her name was kit or kit Kat 563 00:30:49,403 --> 00:30:51,123 because they didn't know her by marnie. 564 00:30:52,523 --> 00:30:55,283 The frey's weren't the only people searching 565 00:30:55,323 --> 00:30:56,883 for loved ones. 566 00:30:56,923 --> 00:31:01,043 By January 2001, the number of missing women 567 00:31:01,083 --> 00:31:03,323 had risen to over 60, 568 00:31:03,363 --> 00:31:06,563 yet still no bodies or remains had been found. 569 00:31:08,083 --> 00:31:11,483 But this number could no longer be ignored. 570 00:31:13,323 --> 00:31:17,123 Finally in April the Vancouver pd 571 00:31:17,163 --> 00:31:19,963 and the royal Canadian mounted police force 572 00:31:20,003 --> 00:31:23,043 launched a joint missing women's task force. 573 00:31:24,323 --> 00:31:28,163 100,000-dollar reward for information 574 00:31:28,203 --> 00:31:31,723 was posted and the task force received 575 00:31:31,763 --> 00:31:34,083 over 12,000 calls, 576 00:31:35,443 --> 00:31:37,419 so, one of the problems with such an investigation 577 00:31:37,443 --> 00:31:39,363 is information overload. 578 00:31:39,403 --> 00:31:41,043 But one of the names that came up 579 00:31:41,083 --> 00:31:43,723 and I heard about it was Willie pickton, 580 00:31:43,763 --> 00:31:46,803 a pig farmer who lived out in the suburbs 581 00:31:46,843 --> 00:31:50,443 of Vancouver in coquitlam or port coquitlam 582 00:31:50,483 --> 00:31:55,523 and he had attacked a prostitute from the downtown eastside 583 00:31:55,563 --> 00:31:59,163 earlier on and had been charged with attempted murder. 584 00:31:59,203 --> 00:32:00,603 So, he was a suspect. 585 00:32:01,683 --> 00:32:05,363 And that was the only entry on pickton's criminal record 586 00:32:05,403 --> 00:32:09,083 that I saw when I was alerted to him as a suspect. 587 00:32:09,123 --> 00:32:11,643 And I ran him through the police computer, 588 00:32:11,683 --> 00:32:16,163 and all I saw was attempted murder and assault, 589 00:32:16,203 --> 00:32:20,003 forcible confinement and the charges were stayed. 590 00:32:20,043 --> 00:32:22,403 So, that's what prompted me 591 00:32:22,443 --> 00:32:25,963 to start to explore him as a suspect. 592 00:32:26,003 --> 00:32:28,923 Because of his attack on stitch the police 593 00:32:28,963 --> 00:32:31,443 had brought pickton in for questioning. 594 00:32:32,763 --> 00:32:34,683 Oh, no, no, I don't drink. 595 00:32:34,723 --> 00:32:36,723 I don't smoke. I don't use drugs. 596 00:32:36,763 --> 00:32:39,563 And everybody says "how come your eyes are so frickin' bloodshot," 597 00:32:39,603 --> 00:32:41,443 they says. I turned around, 598 00:32:41,483 --> 00:32:43,243 I didn't take the knife away from her, 599 00:32:43,283 --> 00:32:45,443 I did not take knife away from her. 600 00:32:45,483 --> 00:32:47,723 I aimed it to her and I knifed it twice. 601 00:32:47,763 --> 00:32:50,403 I did do that. I admit I did that. 602 00:32:50,443 --> 00:32:52,299 That's one thing, I didn't... shouldn't have done. 603 00:32:52,323 --> 00:32:53,779 You've never taken any other prostitute 604 00:32:53,803 --> 00:32:54,963 back to the trailer? 605 00:32:56,243 --> 00:32:57,363 Not since this incident. 606 00:32:57,403 --> 00:32:58,643 No. 607 00:32:58,683 --> 00:33:00,243 But before that incident? 608 00:33:00,283 --> 00:33:01,643 No. 609 00:33:01,683 --> 00:33:04,443 He'd co-operated and they found no reason 610 00:33:04,483 --> 00:33:06,363 to detain him further. 611 00:33:06,403 --> 00:33:08,803 Nobody has any evidence to the contrary yet. 612 00:33:08,843 --> 00:33:11,243 No one has done anything to rule pickton out. 613 00:33:11,283 --> 00:33:13,603 That was always my assertion from the beginning, 614 00:33:13,643 --> 00:33:17,083 is that he's our best suspect 615 00:33:17,123 --> 00:33:19,083 until either we have a better one, 616 00:33:19,123 --> 00:33:22,003 or we categorically rule him out. 617 00:33:24,203 --> 00:33:26,523 In June 2001, 618 00:33:26,563 --> 00:33:31,083 22-year-old Andrea joseberry was in a methadone programme, 619 00:33:31,123 --> 00:33:33,283 close to kicking her drug habit. 620 00:33:35,203 --> 00:33:37,643 Her pharmacist reported her missing 621 00:33:37,683 --> 00:33:40,603 when she stopped collecting her prescriptions. 622 00:33:43,163 --> 00:33:45,323 These people were mothers, they were daughters, 623 00:33:45,363 --> 00:33:46,523 they were sisters. 624 00:33:46,563 --> 00:33:49,163 They were people who could have turned their lives around 625 00:33:49,203 --> 00:33:51,203 and had this man not taken away 626 00:33:51,243 --> 00:33:54,043 that opportunity to do so many of them would've done. 627 00:33:58,643 --> 00:34:01,323 31-year-old Serena abbotsway 628 00:34:01,363 --> 00:34:05,003 was a popular character on the streets, 629 00:34:05,043 --> 00:34:09,323 a few weeks after Andrea, Serena also vanished. 630 00:34:12,043 --> 00:34:14,403 In November 2001, 631 00:34:14,443 --> 00:34:16,563 pickton stopped on the corner of main 632 00:34:16,603 --> 00:34:20,763 and Hastings to talk to 26-year-old Mona Wilson. 633 00:34:22,603 --> 00:34:26,163 He offered her free dope and booze if she came out 634 00:34:26,203 --> 00:34:27,683 to the farm with him. 635 00:34:31,643 --> 00:34:34,203 When they arrived pickton led Mona 636 00:34:34,243 --> 00:34:36,323 to a camper Van behind the barn. 637 00:34:37,603 --> 00:34:39,923 They had sex, then argued. 638 00:34:43,083 --> 00:34:46,723 Pickton pulled out a .22 calibre revolver 639 00:34:46,763 --> 00:34:49,243 and shot her in the head. 640 00:34:49,283 --> 00:34:50,363 (Gunshot fires) 641 00:34:52,323 --> 00:34:55,763 He took her body and dumped her in a trash can. 642 00:34:55,803 --> 00:34:58,803 (Intense music) 643 00:35:02,683 --> 00:35:04,803 When the police finally realised 644 00:35:04,843 --> 00:35:06,099 that there could be a problem here 645 00:35:06,123 --> 00:35:09,523 and they began looking for possible suspects, 646 00:35:09,563 --> 00:35:10,603 including pickton. 647 00:35:12,123 --> 00:35:15,243 As bad as this was in the beginning, 648 00:35:15,283 --> 00:35:16,659 they eventually did a really good job 649 00:35:16,683 --> 00:35:19,003 on trying to piece the bits 650 00:35:19,043 --> 00:35:23,723 and pieces together once it became confirmed 651 00:35:23,763 --> 00:35:25,963 that we actually had a series of murders. 652 00:35:30,363 --> 00:35:33,443 On February 1, 2002, 653 00:35:33,483 --> 00:35:37,843 the missing women's task force caught a break, 654 00:35:37,883 --> 00:35:40,963 a truck driver who had worked on the pickton farm 655 00:35:41,003 --> 00:35:44,283 told the police there was an illegal firearm 656 00:35:44,323 --> 00:35:45,963 in Willy pickton's trailer. 657 00:35:48,483 --> 00:35:51,163 A search warrant was quickly obtained, 658 00:35:51,203 --> 00:35:53,723 and a young rookie policeman turned up 659 00:35:53,763 --> 00:35:56,843 on the farm unannounced. 660 00:35:56,883 --> 00:35:59,963 He got into pickton's trailer with the search warrant 661 00:36:00,003 --> 00:36:03,723 and came across very quickly, not guns, 662 00:36:03,763 --> 00:36:06,923 but identification with women's names on them. 663 00:36:06,963 --> 00:36:09,563 They radioed the missing women taskforce 664 00:36:09,603 --> 00:36:12,443 who just immediately said, 665 00:36:12,483 --> 00:36:15,123 "get off the property, shut it down. 666 00:36:15,163 --> 00:36:17,523 "Control the scene but don't... 667 00:36:17,563 --> 00:36:21,083 "Don't spend one more minute inside that trailer." 668 00:36:21,123 --> 00:36:23,723 In Canadian law you can't go on a fishing trip 669 00:36:23,763 --> 00:36:25,683 on someone's property. 670 00:36:25,723 --> 00:36:27,579 If your purpose is to be there to find a handgun, 671 00:36:27,603 --> 00:36:30,803 you can't all of a sudden take a serial killer investigation 672 00:36:30,843 --> 00:36:31,923 and run with it. 673 00:36:31,963 --> 00:36:33,003 You have to back out 674 00:36:33,043 --> 00:36:35,963 and get a proper warrant specific to what you found. 675 00:36:37,083 --> 00:36:41,363 A new warrant was obtained, and detectives entered the trailer. 676 00:36:42,603 --> 00:36:45,243 They found identification with women's names on it, 677 00:36:45,283 --> 00:36:49,643 transit cards, notebooks with women's names on it. 678 00:36:50,883 --> 00:36:53,723 They found garbage bags full of women's clothes 679 00:36:53,763 --> 00:36:56,123 in a closet in his trailer. 680 00:36:57,323 --> 00:36:59,603 His trailer was just literally strewn 681 00:36:59,643 --> 00:37:01,963 with the personal effects of women. 682 00:37:05,243 --> 00:37:09,763 Within a few days on February 5, 2002, 683 00:37:09,803 --> 00:37:11,083 the pickton pig farm 684 00:37:11,123 --> 00:37:14,883 became the largest crime scene in Canadian history. 685 00:37:16,563 --> 00:37:19,443 Robert Willy pickton was detained 686 00:37:19,483 --> 00:37:22,643 and brought in for questioning by the police, 687 00:37:22,683 --> 00:37:26,403 while a search of the farm got underway. 688 00:37:26,443 --> 00:37:30,923 The discovery of all those remains 689 00:37:30,963 --> 00:37:34,283 all over the place must have been truly horrifying. 690 00:37:34,323 --> 00:37:36,843 I can't believe that the officers 691 00:37:36,883 --> 00:37:38,723 who actually searched 692 00:37:38,763 --> 00:37:41,163 could have thought that they were going to be dealing 693 00:37:41,203 --> 00:37:44,123 with someone who had killed on this kind of scale. 694 00:37:50,483 --> 00:37:52,963 ..What girls you remember... 695 00:37:54,443 --> 00:37:57,203 Have ever been out to your place? 696 00:37:57,243 --> 00:37:58,283 I don't know. 697 00:37:58,323 --> 00:38:00,179 There's so many people coming in and out of my place, 698 00:38:00,203 --> 00:38:01,203 I don't know. 699 00:38:01,243 --> 00:38:02,339 Has she ever been to your place? 700 00:38:02,363 --> 00:38:03,883 Her name's Mona. 701 00:38:03,923 --> 00:38:06,163 She's pretty, that's all I gotta say. 702 00:38:06,203 --> 00:38:10,883 Pickton told the police nothing, so they changed tactics. 703 00:38:10,923 --> 00:38:12,563 Pickton is put into a cell 704 00:38:13,763 --> 00:38:17,163 while on remand with an undercover policeman 705 00:38:18,443 --> 00:38:23,723 and proceeds to brag about what he's done. 706 00:38:24,723 --> 00:38:27,363 He's prompted by the undercover officer. 707 00:38:41,523 --> 00:38:43,883 Pickton's jail cell confession to the murder 708 00:38:43,923 --> 00:38:49,763 of 49 women had to be corroborated with hard evidence. 709 00:38:49,803 --> 00:38:54,483 Forensic investigators continued meticulously searching the pig farm. 710 00:38:56,163 --> 00:38:59,323 By February 22, 2002, 711 00:38:59,363 --> 00:39:02,483 there was enough evidence to identify remains 712 00:39:02,523 --> 00:39:06,443 of Mona Wilson and Serena abbotsway. 713 00:39:06,483 --> 00:39:09,443 Pickton was charged with their murders. 714 00:39:11,083 --> 00:39:15,843 Two months later another five counts of murder were added. 715 00:39:17,163 --> 00:39:21,243 The Canadian police forces spent $70 million Canadian dollars 716 00:39:21,283 --> 00:39:23,523 on searching the farm. 717 00:39:23,563 --> 00:39:26,963 They had archaeological experts, more than 100. 718 00:39:27,003 --> 00:39:28,723 They dug a huge area. 719 00:39:30,003 --> 00:39:32,763 All it did was to confirm what they by then already knew, 720 00:39:35,563 --> 00:39:37,523 that pickton was killing on an industrial scale. 721 00:39:38,803 --> 00:39:41,723 On march 11, 2004, 722 00:39:41,763 --> 00:39:46,123 Canadian health officials made a shocking statement. 723 00:39:46,163 --> 00:39:51,043 As a result of information that we recently received from the rcmp, 724 00:39:51,083 --> 00:39:55,003 we have reason to believe that there is a strong possibility 725 00:39:55,043 --> 00:39:59,163 that some of the product from the pickton farms 726 00:39:59,203 --> 00:40:02,443 and how much the rcmp do not know, 727 00:40:02,483 --> 00:40:05,323 may still be sitting in some people's freezers 728 00:40:05,363 --> 00:40:06,723 in the lower mainland. 729 00:40:06,763 --> 00:40:09,603 Cross contamination could mean that that human remains 730 00:40:09,643 --> 00:40:14,763 did get into or contaminate some of the pork meat that was produced. 731 00:40:19,843 --> 00:40:23,243 After 22 months the forensic investigation 732 00:40:23,283 --> 00:40:26,723 of the pig farm revealed identifiable remains 733 00:40:26,763 --> 00:40:28,443 of 20 more women. 734 00:40:29,603 --> 00:40:33,883 Pickton was charged with 27 counts of first-degree murder. 735 00:40:36,483 --> 00:40:40,443 The trial began on January 2, 2007, 736 00:40:40,483 --> 00:40:42,843 with pickton pleading his innocence. 737 00:40:44,803 --> 00:40:47,723 You know, the trial judge had a very fine line to walk here. 738 00:40:47,763 --> 00:40:53,603 He didn't want to allow any evidence that was going to permit Canada's 739 00:40:53,643 --> 00:40:55,843 worst serial killer to walk. 740 00:40:55,883 --> 00:40:57,803 So, he had to find a way 741 00:40:57,843 --> 00:41:01,283 that he was going to be able to avoid future appeals, 742 00:41:01,323 --> 00:41:04,043 to not have charges thrown out. 743 00:41:04,083 --> 00:41:05,923 The judge reached an agreement 744 00:41:05,963 --> 00:41:09,483 with pickton's defence team to sever the charges 745 00:41:09,523 --> 00:41:12,563 and split the trial into two. 746 00:41:12,603 --> 00:41:15,443 The first trial would focus on the six women 747 00:41:15,483 --> 00:41:20,003 where fully identifiable remains had been found. 748 00:41:20,043 --> 00:41:23,403 The second trial would focus on the 20 women 749 00:41:23,443 --> 00:41:27,203 where only partial evidence was available. 750 00:41:27,243 --> 00:41:30,243 One count of murder was dismissed. 751 00:41:32,763 --> 00:41:35,203 One of the witnesses for the prosecution 752 00:41:35,243 --> 00:41:38,523 was pickton's former friend, Lynn ellingsen. 753 00:41:40,603 --> 00:41:42,043 Who said she walked 754 00:41:42,083 --> 00:41:45,323 into the slaughterhouse late one night 755 00:41:45,363 --> 00:41:51,123 and testified that she saw what appeared to be a human body 756 00:41:51,163 --> 00:41:53,203 on the slaughterhouse table. 757 00:41:53,243 --> 00:41:58,483 It was very chilling testimony in the trial. 758 00:41:58,523 --> 00:42:01,403 That was, I'm sure, 759 00:42:01,443 --> 00:42:04,323 very important for the jurors to hear. 760 00:42:06,963 --> 00:42:08,883 On December 9, 2007, 761 00:42:08,923 --> 00:42:11,163 after a very long trail, 762 00:42:11,203 --> 00:42:14,043 the jury return 763 00:42:14,083 --> 00:42:16,763 a very interesting verdict. 764 00:42:16,803 --> 00:42:21,283 They find pickton not guilty of first-degree murder 765 00:42:21,323 --> 00:42:23,643 but guilty of second-degree murder. 766 00:42:25,283 --> 00:42:28,803 Now, I've always wondered whether or not 767 00:42:28,843 --> 00:42:33,723 that jury felt that pickton was not working alone, 768 00:42:33,763 --> 00:42:35,923 that that was the reason they didn't convict him 769 00:42:35,963 --> 00:42:39,403 of first-degree murder because he ticked every single box. 770 00:42:40,883 --> 00:42:43,643 Pickton was sentenced to life in prison 771 00:42:43,683 --> 00:42:48,363 to serve 25 years without the possibility of parole. 772 00:42:50,443 --> 00:42:54,843 The supreme court of Canada denied his right to appeal, 773 00:42:55,923 --> 00:42:59,243 and the government of British Columbia made the decision 774 00:42:59,283 --> 00:43:02,523 not to proceed with the remaining 20 counts 775 00:43:02,563 --> 00:43:04,203 of first-degree murder. 776 00:43:06,443 --> 00:43:08,523 Logically, it made sense. 777 00:43:08,563 --> 00:43:11,083 But I can tell you emotionally, 778 00:43:11,123 --> 00:43:15,803 it was devastating to the families of those 20 people who, 779 00:43:15,843 --> 00:43:21,443 for years, generations, felt ignored by the justice system. 780 00:43:21,483 --> 00:43:23,723 They felt ignored by police, 781 00:43:23,763 --> 00:43:25,243 that no one believed them 782 00:43:25,283 --> 00:43:28,523 when they said that their loved ones were missing. 783 00:43:30,283 --> 00:43:32,483 And they just didn't get that day in court. 784 00:43:36,843 --> 00:43:38,643 He did it because he could get away with it. 785 00:43:39,683 --> 00:43:41,099 He did it because he worked out a way 786 00:43:41,123 --> 00:43:43,163 of dealing with the bodies. 787 00:43:43,203 --> 00:43:45,603 This is a man who deserves nothing but contempt. 788 00:43:46,963 --> 00:43:50,563 There is nothing about Willy pickton that is admirable 789 00:43:50,603 --> 00:43:52,523 and there is everything that is despicable. 790 00:43:54,243 --> 00:43:57,283 Marnie frey was one of the six women 791 00:43:57,323 --> 00:44:00,003 whose remains were fully identified. 792 00:44:01,043 --> 00:44:02,563 I never liked the word closure 793 00:44:02,603 --> 00:44:05,163 because there is no such thing as closure, 794 00:44:05,203 --> 00:44:10,243 but we had to have like a ceremony just to say that, 795 00:44:10,283 --> 00:44:14,483 you know, the searching for her has come to an end and. 796 00:44:16,163 --> 00:44:18,283 It was kind of a sad kind of a thing, 797 00:44:18,323 --> 00:44:21,363 but it was something we felt we should we... 798 00:44:21,403 --> 00:44:22,483 Should do. 799 00:44:29,123 --> 00:44:31,323 Robert pickton was a monster, 800 00:44:31,363 --> 00:44:35,003 preying on women who lived on the fringes of society. 801 00:44:36,163 --> 00:44:41,243 He exploited their desperation to fulfil his own sick desires. 802 00:44:42,363 --> 00:44:45,443 How many women died or how they died 803 00:44:45,483 --> 00:44:48,563 on that pig farm is still unknown, 804 00:44:49,963 --> 00:44:54,123 the only man with the answers is Robert pickton, 805 00:44:54,163 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