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Fred dinenage
(narrates): February 2004,

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Baton Rouge,
Louisiana United States,

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43-year-old sex worker
Donna Bennett johnston

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was walking the streets
looking for business.

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The friendly man driving a
white Chevy cavalier seemed

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like a safe customer.

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He'd stalked this victim,
he'd got his mind set on her.

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The man was 41-year-old
Sean Vincent gillis,

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and he was out hunting.

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Because the minute he
saw the women that he killed,

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to him they were
already dead in his mind.

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But what he was to do to her

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in the wake of the
killing is utterly grotesque.

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He raped her, he beat
her, he cut off her arm.

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And then he saw a
tattoo on her thigh,

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so he cut out the tattoo.

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This quiet shy ordinary
man lived a double life,

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devoted partner by
day, monster by night.

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And the policeman looked at
me and said, "didn't you know?

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"You're living
with a serial killer."

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And I basically laughed
out loud and said,

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"boy, do you have
the wrong house?"

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For ten years gillis indulged
his depraved sexual needs

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and got away with it.

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He wasn't clever,
he wasn't careful.

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He discarded his
victims like garbage

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and enjoyed every minute of it.

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Making Sean Vincent gillis one
of the world's most evil killers.

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(Theme music)

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1994, Baton Rouge, Louisiana,

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32-year-old Sean Vincent gillis

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was a nerdy geek who loved
computers and all things Star Trek.

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He told me he had never
had any past relationships.

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He had had female friends, but
that was as far as it ever went.

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For gillis finding a
girlfriend wasn't enough.

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He had darker desires
and started to explore them,

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beginning with an easy target.

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This first murder is
his warm-up murder.

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This is the one where he knows

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he has that distinct
advantage over his victim.

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He knows that she's elderly,
that she's quite vulnerable,

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that she's quite
easily overpowered.

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And this is the one
that is the gateway

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to the murders that
he goes on to commit.

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Over the next five
years he honed his skills

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and found the information
he needed on the dark web.

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Sean began to understand
himself a little bit more

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and he began to understand

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what he actually
wanted from killing,

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and it wasn't killing.

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It was he wanted the
dead bodies of women.

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And Sean Vincent gillis knew

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where he could find
women to prey on.

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It would take police a
couple of more murders

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before they started
connecting everything,

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and realising, we
have a serial killer,

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operating in Baton Rouge.

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With every victim the depth
of his depravity escalated.

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So, you now have
a man who's a rapist,

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a murderer, a
necrophile, and a cannibal,

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all in this
inconsequential little man

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called Sean gillis,

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living with his partner, in
a house in Baton Rouge.

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This killer's story begins
on June 24th, 1962.

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Sean Vincent gillis was born
in Baton Rouge, Louisiana

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to Yvonne and Norman gillis.

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When he was very young,
maybe three years old,

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his father tried to kill
him and his mother.

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Yvonne left Norman
when this happened

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and became a single mother.

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And she raised Sean, by herself,

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from the time he was
three years old on.

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In fact, Norman spent
a great part of his life

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in mental institutions

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and had almost no impact
on Sean gillis's early years.

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It was Yvonne, his mother,
that was the decisive influence.

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His father is a figure of fear.

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He's somebody who is not
giving those feelings of safety

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and stability and security,

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those are things that
he gets from his mother.

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And the centrality of his mother
in those early years of his life,

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becomes very, very important
in terms of his later relationships,

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and in terms of his crimes.

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She worked at a department
store in Baton Rouge.

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She worked for channel
2, a television station here.

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And she doted on her son.

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She spoiled him.

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She thought he was the
best baby in the world.

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And as he grew, she
thought he was really smart,

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although his teachers thought he
was maybe average intelligence.

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He was known to smoke
marijuana with his friends.

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But neighbours reported that
sometimes he would go out

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in the middle of the
night, in the front yard

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or the backyard and
be howling like a wolf.

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He had some very strange
behaviours, even as a teenager.

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But the thing was that he was

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so pre-occupied by his mother,

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that he really
had no girlfriends.

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He went through his adolescence

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and early 20s barely
having a girlfriend.

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I mean, I think he
might've wanted a girlfriend,

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but I don't think he knew
what to do to get one.

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Sean was like a nerd.

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He was a geek.

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He loved computers.

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He loved things like
Star Trek, Nintendo.

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Even early on when
computers were just coming out,

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he was already studying them
and learning how to operate them,

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and learning that computers
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your fantasies or whatever.

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He used the computers
for pornography long

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before most people did.

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In 1991 when gillis
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his mother accepted a
new job in Atlanta Georgia.

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His mother asks him to
go with her and he refuses.

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And just looking at this,

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what you've got here
is a petulant teenager,

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"I'm not gonna go."

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And I think he believes
that by refusing to go,

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she won't go.

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But, of course, she does.

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She goes and she
takes up this new job,

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but she sends him money

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so that he can keep up
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she provides for him.

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But he would have taken it
almost as a kind of bereavement,

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as a kind of grief because
he's been left on his own,

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he sees himself as
this abandoned child.

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He's been fascinated by
computers since he was very young,

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early days of the Internet.

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Of course, he's
addicted to pornography,

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it's almost goes without saying.

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In 1994 gillis met a young woman

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who was the night shift manager

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at a local convenience
store called Terri lemoine.

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My first impression of
Sean was comfortable, safe.

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Someone you would want to
visit or see every day, you know?

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Someone who could
be your friend, easily.

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We spent at least six
hours talking all-night long

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in that convenience store.

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We liked the same books,
we liked the same movies,

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we liked the same actors.

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We got along fine.

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Sean and Terri's
relationship flourished.

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The store where
Terri worked nights

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was only a short walk from
Sean's house and down the road

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from a retirement community
called st James place.

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One night gillis was
walking through the grounds

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of the facility's residential
area and stopped

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at the home of
82-year-old Ann Bryan.

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She left her door
cracked a little bit

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in the retirement home

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so that the nurse could come
in if she needed to that night

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and bring in medication for her.

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He decides he's gonna kill her.

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Not just kill her, but to
absolutely destroy this elderly lady.

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I mean, he stabs her 47 times,

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she has got wounds
all over her body.

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Her throat is cut.

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It is a grotesque killing.

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For a first kill
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this was a frenzied attack,

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it was brutal, it was bloody.

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And I think Sean
surprised himself

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with how gruesome that scene got

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and what he was capable of.

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No one knew that
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that had killed her.

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There was no connection
between gillis and Ann.

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He wasn't the
gardener or, you know,

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somebody who came around
to do the bit of clearing up.

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As far as anyone knew, there
was no connection whatever.

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Six months after killing Ann,
Terri and Sean moved in together.

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Sean was the...

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Probably one of the best kind
of boyfriends you could have.

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He was polite, he was nice.

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He always thought of you first.

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And Sean was gonna be the person

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I was gonna spend
the rest of my life with.

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1994 Baton Rouge, Louisiana,

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Sean Vincent gillis

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and his girlfriend
Terri lemoine settled

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into their new life together
living in Sean's childhood home.

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Sean was a quiet,

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geeky little guy.

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He didn't...

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He never made loud
noises, he never yelled.

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He stayed at home a lot.

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Sean was the type of person
that you could leave your kids with.

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That was the type of
person he came across as.

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He could be your babysitter
and you'd trust him.

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When he's in this relationship,

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he is essentially trying to
be the perfect boyfriend.

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He is on his best behaviour,
he wants her approval,

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he wants her validation.

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He has essentially
replaced his mother with her.

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One of Sean's main
loves was his computer.

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Sean would get on his computer

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from the time he
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and way into the night
would stay on that computer.

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I usually went to bed by myself.

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Sometimes I woke up by myself
because Sean was on his computer.

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Terri secured Sean a
day job at the same store

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where she worked nights.

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Well, I wanted him to not rely

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on his mother so much
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pay his own bills, because
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She paid the electric bill,
everything at the house.

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And I wanted him to kind of
learn how to fend for himself,

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how to take care of himself.

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I mean, he was a
man by then, you know.

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Gillis lasted three weeks
in his new job, then quit.

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He pretty much wanted
to stay on his own.

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And you had to
interact with people

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and Sean didn't like
interacting with people.

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That would mean you
have to talk to them,

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and Sean didn't like
talking not to other people.

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He could sit there and carry
on a wonderful conversation

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and talk your head off.

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But to talk to someone
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that wasn't something
he was good at.

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For the next five
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appeared to live
happily ever after.

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His girlfriend
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so this gives him
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when he is on his own,

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and he starts driving
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looking for victims.

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He's ruminating, he's thinking.

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He is unsupervised for
the first time in his life.

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And I think this comes
as quite a surprise to him.

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Nobody's checking up on him,

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he has all of these
hours to play with.

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He began to practice

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using an industrial zip tie,

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which is a very big plastic tie.

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And when you pull it
it's tight and it locks,

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and you can't unlock it.

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And he chose that
as his weapon of death

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and began practising with it.

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And so, for those five years,

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he sunk deeper and
deeper into depravity

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and began honing his skills,

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so that when he began
killing again, he was ready.

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On the night of
January 4th, 1999,

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30-year-old sex
worker Katherine hall

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was working the streets
in north Baton Rouge.

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And Sean gillis
drove up beside her

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and offered her money,

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and she got into his vehicle.

251
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Sean took her to a
deserted area on river road,

252
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and he put a zip
tie around her neck.

253
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When she realised
what was happening,

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she fought him, and
she jumped out of the car,

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and she ran.

256
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And he caught up with her
and he began stabbing her.

257
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He stabbed her 16
times peri-mortem,

258
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and another 21 times
after she was gone.

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She was located in the
southeast part of the parish,

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in a kind of a rural area,

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but a new subdivision
development was taking place.

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Katherine's remains
were left nude.

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None of her personal
items were located there.

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And she had been laid out
in a kind of a posed position

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beneath a dead-end sign.

266
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The thing that
was relevant to him

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was the connection
with a dead female body.

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Horrifying though
it may be to say,

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what really made
gillis's juices flow

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was a possibility of sex
with a dead female body.

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Where did that come from?

272
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I can't say.

273
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All I can say is that
it's one of the few cases

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I've come across in which this
is a truly necrophiliac tendency.

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Four months later in may,
gillis was again out driving.

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He saw 52-year-old
hardee moseley schmidt.

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She was a well-to-do
mother of three.

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She was married to an attorney.

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She was from a prominent
Baton Rouge family.

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Her father was a
judge in Baton Rouge.

281
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And every morning
hardee would take a jog.

282
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She loved exercise
and she loved jogging

283
00:19:13,563 --> 00:19:15,323
through her beautiful
neighbourhood.

284
00:19:16,523 --> 00:19:21,163
On the morning of may 30th
gillis went out looking for her.

285
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And when Sean saw her,

286
00:19:36,123 --> 00:19:39,603
he struck her with his vehicle
and knocked her into a ditch.

287
00:19:40,763 --> 00:19:43,603
He jumped out of his
car, he grabbed the zip tie,

288
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and he strangled
her right there,

289
00:19:45,243 --> 00:19:47,803
and put her in the
trunk of his vehicle.

290
00:19:47,843 --> 00:19:52,403
Gillis drove the dead body
to a park in Baton Rouge.

291
00:19:52,443 --> 00:19:55,523
After Sean finished
raping hardee,

292
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he put her back in
the trunk of the car

293
00:19:57,723 --> 00:20:00,683
and he went to go pick
his girlfriend up from work

294
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at the convenience store.

295
00:20:03,803 --> 00:20:08,763
I remember a smell in the
car and asked him what it was.

296
00:20:08,803 --> 00:20:12,923
And he said he had hit an
animal on the way to pick me up.

297
00:20:14,083 --> 00:20:16,403
And that was probably
the the smell of the animal

298
00:20:16,443 --> 00:20:19,443
was still on the tyres
coming into the car.

299
00:20:20,963 --> 00:20:23,243
And I was so tired
from getting off of work

300
00:20:25,283 --> 00:20:28,523
that I told him, "just
please clean the car.

301
00:20:28,563 --> 00:20:34,283
"I'm going to bed." And I
didn't think about it again.

302
00:20:36,283 --> 00:20:40,403
A few days later near a
bayou south of Baton Rouge,

303
00:20:40,443 --> 00:20:43,643
the body of hardee
moseley schmidt was found.

304
00:20:44,803 --> 00:20:45,883
So, these are places

305
00:20:45,923 --> 00:20:49,323
that are really not of
any use to anybody,

306
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they are these in-between spaces

307
00:20:51,363 --> 00:20:53,363
that don't appear
to have a function.

308
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And that is how
he saw his victims.

309
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He saw them as having expired.

310
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I've got what I wanted from you,
you don't serve any purpose anymore,

311
00:21:00,883 --> 00:21:03,243
like the area in which
I'm dumping you.

312
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November 12th, 1999,
Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

313
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Six months after killing
hardee moseley schmidt,

314
00:21:30,803 --> 00:21:35,123
Sean Vincent gillis was
hunting down his next target.

315
00:21:40,563 --> 00:21:44,563
It really isn't until
his fourth victim,

316
00:21:44,603 --> 00:21:46,763
a girl called Joyce Williams,

317
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that the full extent

318
00:21:50,363 --> 00:21:55,763
of gillis's extraordinary

319
00:21:55,803 --> 00:21:59,283
tendencies begins
to become clear.

320
00:22:00,643 --> 00:22:04,123
It may sound
extraordinary to hear,

321
00:22:04,163 --> 00:22:07,563
but gillis was becoming,

322
00:22:07,603 --> 00:22:11,163
and probably had by now become,

323
00:22:11,203 --> 00:22:14,563
a proper fully
fledged necrophiliac.

324
00:22:14,603 --> 00:22:20,163
He saw sexual relationships
with dead women

325
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as more important than any

326
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kind of sexual
relationship with a live one.

327
00:22:24,323 --> 00:22:27,763
36-year-old Joyce
Williams was a drug addict

328
00:22:27,803 --> 00:22:31,403
who had turned to sex
work to feed her habit.

329
00:22:31,443 --> 00:22:36,923
On the night of November
12th, she got in the car with gillis.

330
00:22:36,963 --> 00:22:38,683
And they were
driving and listening

331
00:22:38,723 --> 00:22:40,323
to the music and singing.

332
00:22:40,363 --> 00:22:44,003
And Joyce made the
comment to him that,

333
00:22:44,043 --> 00:22:45,563
"if I wasn't with anyone else,

334
00:22:45,603 --> 00:22:49,283
"I'd be feeling
nervous right now."

335
00:22:49,323 --> 00:22:52,043
And Sean said,
you know, to himself,

336
00:22:52,083 --> 00:22:55,123
he thought, "hmm,
you have no idea."

337
00:22:55,163 --> 00:22:59,163
Gillis drove to a remote
area in west Baton Rouge

338
00:22:59,203 --> 00:23:01,403
and stopped by
a sugarcane field.

339
00:23:02,443 --> 00:23:05,323
And anybody that's ever
lived in Louisiana knows,

340
00:23:05,363 --> 00:23:07,403
if you walk through
a sugarcane field,

341
00:23:07,443 --> 00:23:08,483
sound is muted.

342
00:23:08,523 --> 00:23:10,003
You can't hear anything.

343
00:23:10,043 --> 00:23:14,643
So, this was the perfect
place for Sean to bring her.

344
00:23:15,923 --> 00:23:18,603
Gillis strangled Joyce to death.

345
00:23:22,283 --> 00:23:24,003
He put her back
into the vehicle,

346
00:23:24,043 --> 00:23:26,963
and Joyce was the first victim

347
00:23:27,003 --> 00:23:29,843
that he brought back to the
house he shared with Terri.

348
00:23:31,043 --> 00:23:35,003
Sean described how
beautiful Joyce's legs were.

349
00:23:36,483 --> 00:23:41,163
He became very
obsessed with her legs

350
00:23:41,203 --> 00:23:45,323
and began removing her legs.

351
00:23:45,363 --> 00:23:48,963
He utilised a knife
and a hacksaw

352
00:23:49,003 --> 00:23:53,003
to begin dismembering Joyce.

353
00:23:53,043 --> 00:23:56,003
After Sean dismembered
Joyce Williams' body,

354
00:23:56,043 --> 00:23:59,403
he delved into
cannibalism for the first time

355
00:23:59,443 --> 00:24:02,603
and decided to see
what she tasted like.

356
00:24:04,763 --> 00:24:07,163
Sean cleaned up quickly

357
00:24:07,203 --> 00:24:09,483
putting the dismembered
remains of Joyce

358
00:24:09,523 --> 00:24:11,483
into large plastic bags

359
00:24:11,523 --> 00:24:14,243
and stuffed them in
the trunk of his car.

360
00:24:14,283 --> 00:24:16,923
He then went to
pick Terri up at work.

361
00:24:18,163 --> 00:24:19,723
He dropped Terri at home,

362
00:24:19,763 --> 00:24:23,163
then drove to a levee
and dumped Joyce's body.

363
00:24:24,403 --> 00:24:26,523
He didn't distribute
them across state lines,

364
00:24:26,563 --> 00:24:28,163
he wanted them to be found.

365
00:24:28,203 --> 00:24:29,763
But that's his signature.

366
00:24:29,803 --> 00:24:32,923
He wanted people to
know what he'd done.

367
00:24:32,963 --> 00:24:37,523
And then even more terrifying,
he wanted to get away with it.

368
00:24:40,563 --> 00:24:44,803
In October 2000, Sean
was driving through Lafayette

369
00:24:44,843 --> 00:24:48,403
when he saw
38-year-old Marilyn nevils.

370
00:24:48,443 --> 00:24:50,843
He hadn't planned
to kill that night,

371
00:24:50,883 --> 00:24:52,443
he just couldn't help himself.

372
00:25:22,003 --> 00:25:27,563
After Sean killed Marilyn
nevils in October of 2000,

373
00:25:28,643 --> 00:25:31,003
he stopped killing for a while.

374
00:25:31,043 --> 00:25:34,363
He would not kill again
for almost three years.

375
00:25:35,923 --> 00:25:41,723
The reason Sean stopped killing
was because another serial killer

376
00:25:41,763 --> 00:25:43,443
was operating in Baton Rouge,

377
00:25:43,483 --> 00:25:46,723
and he began to get a
lot more media coverage

378
00:25:46,763 --> 00:25:52,403
and cause a lot of terror
in the city of Baton Rouge

379
00:25:52,443 --> 00:25:54,923
and its surrounding areas.

380
00:25:54,963 --> 00:25:58,003
The other killer was
Derrick Todd Lee,

381
00:25:58,043 --> 00:26:01,483
a predator who targeted
women in their homes.

382
00:26:02,843 --> 00:26:03,923
There's no doubt at all

383
00:26:03,963 --> 00:26:06,483
that gillis became
increasingly obsessed

384
00:26:06,523 --> 00:26:08,243
with Derrick Todd Lee,

385
00:26:08,283 --> 00:26:11,643
this other serial killer
operating in Baton Rouge

386
00:26:11,683 --> 00:26:13,723
at the same time as gillis.

387
00:26:13,763 --> 00:26:16,803
And gillis kept a file
on him in his computer,

388
00:26:16,843 --> 00:26:19,403
he was very interested indeed.

389
00:26:19,443 --> 00:26:22,203
I've always seen that as
a kind of competitiveness.

390
00:26:22,243 --> 00:26:23,323
I think he thought, "well.

391
00:26:23,363 --> 00:26:26,763
I'm gonna be every bit as
dangerous, and as difficult,

392
00:26:26,803 --> 00:26:29,283
and as frightening
as Derrick Todd Lee."

393
00:26:30,923 --> 00:26:35,363
On the 27th of may
2003 Derrick Todd Lee

394
00:26:35,403 --> 00:26:38,323
was arrested and
Sean Vincent gillis

395
00:26:38,363 --> 00:26:41,363
started thinking
about killing again.

396
00:26:41,403 --> 00:26:45,083
By October he was on the
prowl in north Baton Rouge

397
00:26:45,123 --> 00:26:48,683
when he saw 45-year-old
jonny Mae Williams.

398
00:26:50,803 --> 00:26:52,763
He was friends with Johnnie Mae.

399
00:26:52,803 --> 00:26:55,003
They liked each other.

400
00:26:55,043 --> 00:26:58,323
He had met Johnnie
Mae years before,

401
00:26:58,363 --> 00:27:01,443
and she cleaned
his house for him.

402
00:27:01,483 --> 00:27:02,963
They partied together.

403
00:27:03,003 --> 00:27:04,603
They smoked weed together.

404
00:27:04,643 --> 00:27:07,843
He even spent one Thanksgiving
at Johnnie Mae's house

405
00:27:07,883 --> 00:27:09,083
with her family.

406
00:27:32,603 --> 00:27:34,643
And when his
friend, Johnnie Mae,

407
00:27:34,683 --> 00:27:38,443
got into his vehicle, they
drove around for a while.

408
00:27:38,483 --> 00:27:42,843
And he drove her to an area

409
00:27:42,883 --> 00:27:44,483
behind Mason's grill,

410
00:27:44,523 --> 00:27:47,163
which is a popular
restaurant in Baton Rouge.

411
00:27:47,203 --> 00:27:50,683
And it's a secluded field
with woods around it,

412
00:27:50,723 --> 00:27:52,603
right behind the restaurant.

413
00:27:52,643 --> 00:27:56,923
And there he beat
her, he stabbed her,

414
00:27:56,963 --> 00:27:59,923
he mutilated her body,

415
00:27:59,963 --> 00:28:03,043
and he also cut off her hands.

416
00:28:15,563 --> 00:28:19,523
In February 2004,
gillis struck again.

417
00:28:20,963 --> 00:28:24,163
He picked up 43-year-old
Donna Bennett johnston

418
00:28:24,203 --> 00:28:26,163
in north Baton Rouge.

419
00:28:27,243 --> 00:28:30,163
Donna was a sex
worker and an addict.

420
00:28:30,203 --> 00:28:32,843
She was also a
mother to five children.

421
00:28:56,083 --> 00:28:59,243
Sean took Donna
to a deserted area

422
00:28:59,283 --> 00:29:00,723
off of scenic highway.

423
00:29:26,563 --> 00:29:30,323
He raped her, he beat
her, he cut off her arm.

424
00:29:30,363 --> 00:29:35,563
And then he saw a
tattoo on her thigh,

425
00:29:35,603 --> 00:29:39,003
so he cut out the tattoo.

426
00:29:39,043 --> 00:29:41,843
Gillis posed Donna's
mutilated body

427
00:29:41,883 --> 00:29:43,963
and photographed the scene.

428
00:29:44,003 --> 00:29:46,403
He then placed her
in the trunk of his car

429
00:29:46,443 --> 00:29:49,323
and continued taking pictures.

430
00:29:49,363 --> 00:29:52,083
He drove off and
tossed the tattooed flesh

431
00:29:52,123 --> 00:29:54,923
from Donna's body
out of the car window.

432
00:29:56,043 --> 00:29:59,003
He had wrapped her
arm in a bloody towel,

433
00:29:59,043 --> 00:30:01,643
and he threw that in a ditch.

434
00:30:01,683 --> 00:30:05,243
So, he got rid of
Donna's body parts

435
00:30:05,283 --> 00:30:08,363
all over in different areas
around Baton Rouge.

436
00:30:10,043 --> 00:30:11,483
I think he wanted recognition

437
00:30:11,523 --> 00:30:12,723
for his handy work.

438
00:30:12,763 --> 00:30:13,979
I don't think he
was ashamed of it.

439
00:30:14,003 --> 00:30:17,163
I also don't think that he
thought he would get caught.

440
00:30:18,563 --> 00:30:22,163
Because by now, and
we're in February 2004,

441
00:30:22,203 --> 00:30:25,883
he's killed eight
women, ruthlessly.

442
00:30:27,603 --> 00:30:28,923
He's attacked their bodies.

443
00:30:30,323 --> 00:30:32,203
He has done everything he can...

444
00:30:32,243 --> 00:30:35,523
To destroy their lives

445
00:30:35,563 --> 00:30:38,283
and what anyone
would remember of them.

446
00:30:58,243 --> 00:31:01,683
2004, Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

447
00:31:03,803 --> 00:31:09,643
On February 26th the mutilated body
of Donna Bennett johnston was found.

448
00:31:16,243 --> 00:31:20,963
Donna Bennett johnston had
helped the police numerous times

449
00:31:21,003 --> 00:31:24,003
over the years as
a police informant.

450
00:31:24,043 --> 00:31:27,563
So, when the police found
her, they knew who she was,

451
00:31:27,603 --> 00:31:29,883
and they were shocked to see

452
00:31:29,923 --> 00:31:31,843
the condition of her body,

453
00:31:31,883 --> 00:31:34,683
and what this killer
had done to her.

454
00:31:34,723 --> 00:31:38,843
DNA evidence connected the
murder of Donna Bennett johnston

455
00:31:38,883 --> 00:31:42,803
to Katherine hall and
jonny Mae Williams.

456
00:31:42,843 --> 00:31:45,923
Police had to face the
fact that Baton Rouge

457
00:31:45,963 --> 00:31:47,803
had another serial killer.

458
00:31:49,083 --> 00:31:53,123
In march 2004 a
task force was formed.

459
00:31:54,443 --> 00:31:56,563
There was a lot of going
back through the evidence,

460
00:31:56,603 --> 00:31:58,843
going back through
the cold cases,

461
00:31:58,883 --> 00:32:01,843
reviewing witness statements,

462
00:32:01,883 --> 00:32:04,283
evidence that had been recovered

463
00:32:04,323 --> 00:32:06,523
and looking at the crime
scene photographs trying

464
00:32:06,563 --> 00:32:10,643
to determine whom
we were looking for.

465
00:32:10,683 --> 00:32:14,363
While processing the crime
scene of Donna Bennett johnston,

466
00:32:14,403 --> 00:32:17,883
police focused on a tyre
imprint left at the scene.

467
00:32:19,123 --> 00:32:21,963
A tyre casting was
obtained of that.

468
00:32:22,003 --> 00:32:24,243
And research was done
with local tyre dealerships,

469
00:32:24,283 --> 00:32:26,403
which identified
that potentially

470
00:32:26,443 --> 00:32:31,283
that that tread pattern matched
a goodyear aquatred 3 tyre.

471
00:32:32,483 --> 00:32:35,523
The Louisiana police
take great interest

472
00:32:35,563 --> 00:32:39,363
in this tyre track because
it's a very rare one.

473
00:32:40,683 --> 00:32:43,523
Good old fashioned police work.

474
00:32:43,563 --> 00:32:47,163
They identify the
fact that only 90

475
00:32:47,203 --> 00:32:50,763
of these tyres have
been sold in Louisiana,

476
00:32:50,803 --> 00:32:54,283
and they go through
meticulously tracking

477
00:32:54,323 --> 00:32:55,683
whose tyres they were.

478
00:32:56,843 --> 00:33:01,883
And that's how they
begin to find the trail

479
00:33:01,923 --> 00:33:04,483
that leads them to
Sean Vincent gillis's door.

480
00:33:06,003 --> 00:33:08,203
I had just gotten off of work,

481
00:33:08,243 --> 00:33:11,523
and they wanted
to bring Sean down

482
00:33:11,563 --> 00:33:15,083
to the station to talk to him.

483
00:33:15,123 --> 00:33:20,283
They were interviewing
everyone that had a Chevy cavalier

484
00:33:20,323 --> 00:33:22,003
because evidently tyre tracks

485
00:33:22,043 --> 00:33:25,603
were found at one
of the crime scenes.

486
00:33:25,643 --> 00:33:28,603
Gillis agreed to go
to the police station

487
00:33:28,643 --> 00:33:30,283
for questioning.

488
00:33:30,323 --> 00:33:31,643
Sean said, I want Terri to know

489
00:33:31,683 --> 00:33:34,883
where I'm at in case it gets
dark and I'm not back home.

490
00:33:34,923 --> 00:33:38,603
I thought that was very
interesting that he was worried

491
00:33:38,643 --> 00:33:40,083
about not coming back home.

492
00:33:41,563 --> 00:33:44,163
As we're walking out the residence
and standing in the driveway,

493
00:33:44,203 --> 00:33:45,459
talking to Sean for
a minute, he said,

494
00:33:45,483 --> 00:33:47,003
"do you mind if I
smoke a cigarette?"

495
00:33:48,163 --> 00:33:50,443
Sean dropped a
cigarette on his driveway,

496
00:33:50,483 --> 00:33:53,443
extinguished it with
his foot and said,

497
00:33:55,003 --> 00:33:57,123
"let's go get this
shit over with."

498
00:33:58,923 --> 00:34:03,843
And right then I said,
"man, this is the guy."

499
00:34:05,003 --> 00:34:10,003
At the police station gillis
voluntarily provided a DNA swab.

500
00:34:10,043 --> 00:34:12,323
They questioned him
about the tyre tracks

501
00:34:12,363 --> 00:34:14,803
at the Donna Bennett
johnston crime scene.

502
00:35:42,883 --> 00:35:45,883
Gillis had placed
himself at the crime scene

503
00:35:45,923 --> 00:35:47,963
with an unconvincing story

504
00:35:48,003 --> 00:35:49,843
of needing to relieve himself.

505
00:35:50,923 --> 00:35:52,003
Later that afternoon,

506
00:35:52,043 --> 00:35:53,883
Sean was returned
back to his residence

507
00:35:53,923 --> 00:35:57,003
once we had all the
surveillance in place,

508
00:35:57,043 --> 00:35:59,723
his vehicle had been towed
to the state police crime lab

509
00:35:59,763 --> 00:36:02,803
while we continued to
wait for his DNA profile

510
00:36:02,843 --> 00:36:05,043
to be obtained by the crime lab.

511
00:36:06,283 --> 00:36:08,299
Like I said, normally he
never got off his computer.

512
00:36:08,323 --> 00:36:11,363
He actually turned the
computer off and sat

513
00:36:11,403 --> 00:36:13,123
and watched TV
with me that evening.

514
00:36:14,803 --> 00:36:18,003
And came to bed
the same time I did.

515
00:36:19,923 --> 00:36:21,843
"You're actually spending
the evening with me."

516
00:36:21,883 --> 00:36:23,323
I said, "so, what did you do?"

517
00:36:25,923 --> 00:36:29,763
The police waited
anxiously for the DNA results

518
00:36:29,803 --> 00:36:31,323
from the crime lab.

519
00:36:31,363 --> 00:36:32,443
The buccal swab,

520
00:36:32,483 --> 00:36:36,523
which had been
obtained from Sean gillis

521
00:36:37,723 --> 00:36:39,003
produced a DNA profile,

522
00:36:39,043 --> 00:36:41,643
which matched the profiles left

523
00:36:41,683 --> 00:36:44,483
at the crime scenes
of Katherine hall,

524
00:36:44,523 --> 00:36:47,603
Johnnie Mae Williams,
and Donna Bennett johnston.

525
00:36:52,563 --> 00:36:54,003
And about the same time...

526
00:36:56,003 --> 00:36:58,603
That we laid our head
down on the pillow in the bed,

527
00:37:00,563 --> 00:37:03,523
that's when the police
broke through the door

528
00:37:03,563 --> 00:37:04,643
and arrested him.

529
00:37:07,243 --> 00:37:10,723
When they told me they'd
come to arrest a serial killer,

530
00:37:11,803 --> 00:37:13,683
I laughed at them.

531
00:37:13,723 --> 00:37:17,563
I actually laughed
out loud and said,

532
00:37:17,603 --> 00:37:19,043
"boy, have you got
the wrong house?"

533
00:37:21,443 --> 00:37:22,763
Sean was brought back

534
00:37:22,803 --> 00:37:25,803
to the police station
accompanied by Terri.

535
00:38:20,603 --> 00:38:22,643
And I asked him straight up,

536
00:38:24,643 --> 00:38:27,283
"did you do everything
they're telling me that you did?"

537
00:38:30,403 --> 00:38:32,003
And this geeky little guy

538
00:38:33,083 --> 00:38:35,363
that I had just
adored all these years

539
00:38:36,643 --> 00:38:38,883
just kind of hung his head

540
00:38:38,923 --> 00:38:40,923
and turned it to the
side and looked at me

541
00:38:40,963 --> 00:38:43,203
with those big
blue eyes and said,

542
00:38:43,243 --> 00:38:45,923
"yeah, honey
bunny, I did all that."

543
00:38:50,563 --> 00:38:51,603
And...

544
00:38:54,883 --> 00:38:56,163
I turned around and left.

545
00:39:04,843 --> 00:39:06,363
He was very forthcoming,

546
00:39:06,403 --> 00:39:09,123
but he wanted to
tell his story also too.

547
00:39:09,163 --> 00:39:11,923
You know, he wanted
to enjoy the limelight,

548
00:39:13,083 --> 00:39:14,843
describing everything
he had done.

549
00:40:25,443 --> 00:40:28,363
As the police sat there
and listened to him,

550
00:40:28,403 --> 00:40:31,163
recount everything he had done,

551
00:40:31,203 --> 00:40:33,403
he knew details of those murders

552
00:40:33,443 --> 00:40:35,923
that had not been
released to the public.

553
00:40:35,963 --> 00:40:39,123
And so while they thought
they were arresting him

554
00:40:39,163 --> 00:40:40,523
for three murders,

555
00:40:40,563 --> 00:40:42,243
he confessed to eight.

556
00:40:44,043 --> 00:40:46,483
The next day prior
to interviewing Sean,

557
00:40:46,523 --> 00:40:49,923
we had contacted the
public defender's office,

558
00:40:49,963 --> 00:40:52,203
requested a public
defender come,

559
00:40:52,243 --> 00:40:56,403
and speak with Sean just to
make sure Sean understood

560
00:40:56,443 --> 00:40:58,403
that he had the
right to remain silent.

561
00:41:46,243 --> 00:41:49,003
He just keeps talking
and goes on and on.

562
00:41:49,043 --> 00:41:54,203
And the confession tapes
are around 40 hours in total.

563
00:41:54,243 --> 00:41:55,483
But what we got to remember

564
00:41:55,523 --> 00:41:56,523
is for the first time

565
00:41:56,563 --> 00:41:59,243
in his life gillis is
being listened to,

566
00:41:59,283 --> 00:42:00,643
he has an audience,

567
00:42:00,683 --> 00:42:02,603
and he wants to
keep that audience.

568
00:42:41,403 --> 00:42:45,243
When police sprayed
luminol in the kitchen

569
00:42:45,283 --> 00:42:47,803
of Sean Vincent gillis,

570
00:42:47,843 --> 00:42:51,043
where he had taken
several of his victims

571
00:42:51,083 --> 00:42:52,523
and dismembered their bodies,

572
00:42:54,243 --> 00:42:56,083
the floor lit up like
a Christmas tree.

573
00:42:56,123 --> 00:42:59,083
It was unbelievable
how much blood

574
00:42:59,123 --> 00:43:02,403
he had tried to clean
up out of that kitchen.

575
00:43:03,923 --> 00:43:06,043
But more telling,

576
00:43:06,083 --> 00:43:09,323
45 photographs
of Donna johnston.

577
00:43:09,363 --> 00:43:11,723
Endless pictures
of the other victims,

578
00:43:11,763 --> 00:43:14,923
often naked, often
in the back of his car.

579
00:43:14,963 --> 00:43:19,203
Paraphernalia, zip
ties as was used to kill.

580
00:43:19,243 --> 00:43:23,523
Endless amounts of
absolutely critical evidence.

581
00:43:25,323 --> 00:43:29,403
Gillis was eventually charged
with several counts of both first

582
00:43:29,443 --> 00:43:31,683
and second-degree murder.

583
00:43:31,723 --> 00:43:35,563
He faced years of
multi-jurisdictional litigation.

584
00:43:35,603 --> 00:43:38,563
He escaped the death
penalty and was sentenced

585
00:43:38,603 --> 00:43:41,483
to serve three
consecutive life sentences.

586
00:43:43,243 --> 00:43:46,883
I think that what they
heard in that courtroom

587
00:43:46,923 --> 00:43:50,043
was so inhumane and so...

588
00:43:51,803 --> 00:43:56,123
Unable to be comprehended
by any normal human being.

589
00:43:57,403 --> 00:44:01,523
The only alternative was
this person cannot be saned,

590
00:44:01,563 --> 00:44:04,123
because although
he was perfectly fine

591
00:44:04,163 --> 00:44:05,883
with killing all of
these other people,

592
00:44:05,923 --> 00:44:08,163
he didn't want to die himself.

593
00:44:08,203 --> 00:44:10,323
It's hard to believe that
it was occurring here

594
00:44:10,363 --> 00:44:14,323
in Baton Rouge, and we
had Sean living in our society,

595
00:44:14,363 --> 00:44:16,683
and him not being
on anyone's radar.

596
00:44:17,883 --> 00:44:20,963
It was almost a year later

597
00:44:21,003 --> 00:44:23,043
that I found out
everything he had done.

598
00:44:24,563 --> 00:44:28,603
And sometimes I
still can't fathom that...

599
00:44:29,683 --> 00:44:31,723
Because that is just
not the person I knew.

600
00:44:33,723 --> 00:44:35,003
That's not the Sean I knew.

601
00:44:50,923 --> 00:44:54,043
When Sean Vincent
gillis selected a victim,

602
00:44:54,083 --> 00:44:56,363
they were already dead to him,

603
00:44:56,403 --> 00:44:58,563
he didn't see them as human.

604
00:44:58,603 --> 00:45:00,243
He went beyond killing.

605
00:45:00,283 --> 00:45:03,963
He destroyed women in the
most depraved way possible

606
00:45:04,003 --> 00:45:06,363
making Sean Vincent gillis

607
00:45:06,403 --> 00:45:09,403
one of the world's
most evil killers.

608
00:45:09,443 --> 00:45:12,403
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609
00:45:12,443 --> 00:45:15,443
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