1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:36,621 --> 00:00:38,248 I'm a little nervous... 4 00:00:40,333 --> 00:00:42,127 thinkin' about my parents' story. 5 00:00:45,630 --> 00:00:49,009 It'll be the first time I would-- I'd been on that section of Rio Grande 6 00:00:49,217 --> 00:00:50,297 where my parents crossed... 7 00:00:51,636 --> 00:00:52,636 in my life. 8 00:00:52,721 --> 00:00:53,721 First time ever. 9 00:00:55,223 --> 00:00:57,517 And I think it's gonna connect 10 00:00:57,726 --> 00:01:01,062 everything really, really well for me. 11 00:01:04,649 --> 00:01:07,193 I've been uh, river-guiding here on the Rio Grande 12 00:01:07,402 --> 00:01:09,112 for the past six-ish years. 13 00:01:10,405 --> 00:01:12,615 I want people to know what's out here. 14 00:01:14,367 --> 00:01:16,286 I want the love to be shared. 15 00:01:18,663 --> 00:01:22,125 This is wilderness as wild as it gets. 16 00:01:31,301 --> 00:01:32,661 But people don't like hearing that. 17 00:01:35,764 --> 00:01:37,390 People like hearing about a wall. 18 00:01:41,394 --> 00:01:43,730 Rather than talking about putting up a fence, 19 00:01:43,938 --> 00:01:46,066 why don't we work out some recognition 20 00:01:46,274 --> 00:01:47,567 of our mutual problems-- 21 00:01:47,776 --> 00:01:49,576 Make it possible for them to come here legally 22 00:01:49,778 --> 00:01:52,614 with a work permit, and open the border both ways. 23 00:01:53,656 --> 00:01:57,494 We are nation of immigrants, but we are also a nation of law. 24 00:01:59,370 --> 00:02:01,581 That's why our administration has moved aggressively 25 00:02:01,790 --> 00:02:03,249 to secure our borders more. 26 00:02:05,710 --> 00:02:09,756 Ours' is a nation of immigrants, we're also a nation of law. 27 00:02:10,882 --> 00:02:13,343 We have a responsibility to secure our borders. 28 00:02:14,511 --> 00:02:16,429 President Bush, he signed a bill today 29 00:02:16,638 --> 00:02:19,224 authorizing the construction of a fence 30 00:02:19,432 --> 00:02:21,101 along the border with Mexico. 31 00:02:21,309 --> 00:02:24,270 This fence would be 700 miles long. 32 00:02:31,319 --> 00:02:34,280 I think the American people, they appreciate 33 00:02:34,489 --> 00:02:38,284 and believe in immigration. But they can't have a situation where you just have 34 00:02:38,493 --> 00:02:41,287 half a million people pouring over the border 35 00:02:41,496 --> 00:02:44,374 without any kind of mechanism to control it. 36 00:02:48,753 --> 00:02:50,338 Complete the danged fence. 37 00:02:50,547 --> 00:02:52,173 It'll work this time. 38 00:02:55,593 --> 00:02:58,805 Look, I voted uh, numerous times when I was a senator 39 00:02:59,013 --> 00:03:02,308 to spend money to build a barrier 40 00:03:02,517 --> 00:03:05,645 to try to prevent um, illegal immigrants 41 00:03:05,854 --> 00:03:06,854 from coming in. 42 00:03:11,317 --> 00:03:15,196 On day one, we will begin working 43 00:03:15,405 --> 00:03:19,117 on an impenetrable, physical, tall, 44 00:03:19,325 --> 00:03:20,660 powerful, beautiful 45 00:03:20,869 --> 00:03:23,454 southern-border wall. 46 00:03:28,793 --> 00:03:30,503 Build that wall! 47 00:03:30,712 --> 00:03:31,712 Build that wall! 48 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:32,880 Build that wall! 49 00:03:33,798 --> 00:03:35,091 Build that wall! 50 00:03:35,300 --> 00:03:36,593 Build that wall! 51 00:03:36,801 --> 00:03:38,178 Build that wall! 52 00:03:38,386 --> 00:03:39,804 Build that wall! 53 00:03:40,013 --> 00:03:41,764 Build that wall! 54 00:04:05,830 --> 00:04:09,709 This whole idea got started a few months ago. 55 00:04:09,918 --> 00:04:12,295 I was workin' for some wildlife biologists 56 00:04:12,503 --> 00:04:13,880 out in West Texas. 57 00:04:14,088 --> 00:04:21,554 And they were describing to me how a physical wall 58 00:04:21,763 --> 00:04:24,390 would have some really serious impact 59 00:04:24,599 --> 00:04:27,268 to a lot of wildlife species along the Rio Grande. 60 00:04:29,354 --> 00:04:33,149 And it was something that-- That I never really thought about, 61 00:04:33,358 --> 00:04:37,987 the actual physical entity of a wall. 62 00:04:39,864 --> 00:04:42,700 And I guess I just wanted to-- to learn more about it. 63 00:04:48,831 --> 00:04:49,831 Um, uh-- 64 00:04:52,335 --> 00:04:54,015 On a journey like this, you're only as good 65 00:04:54,128 --> 00:04:55,505 as the team that you have. 66 00:04:55,713 --> 00:04:57,882 And this group is amazing. 67 00:04:58,091 --> 00:05:00,426 Like that and mess this up. 68 00:05:00,635 --> 00:05:03,888 So you-- with horses, you don't have to replace pedals. 69 00:05:04,097 --> 00:05:05,848 Austin Alvarado is a river guide. 70 00:05:06,057 --> 00:05:07,809 He knows the river in West Texas 71 00:05:08,017 --> 00:05:09,435 like the back of his hand. 72 00:05:11,771 --> 00:05:13,314 Heather is an ornithologist. 73 00:05:13,523 --> 00:05:16,442 She studies birds and butterflies along the Rio, 74 00:05:16,651 --> 00:05:20,613 and her knowledge of just the biodiversity at large 75 00:05:20,822 --> 00:05:22,615 is gonna be really important for the trip. 76 00:05:22,824 --> 00:05:24,742 Uh, one second. Yeah. 77 00:05:24,951 --> 00:05:27,620 Filipe DeAndrade, an incredible film maker. 78 00:05:27,829 --> 00:05:32,625 I expected like-- Yeah, like the mariachi band and great entourage. 79 00:05:32,834 --> 00:05:35,420 Wooh, what a start! And it is just like, "Alright, pull up next" 80 00:05:35,628 --> 00:05:38,023 "- to the drum trucks, we're doing this thing." - Is he alright? 81 00:05:38,047 --> 00:05:42,844 Jay Kleberg, he works for Texas Parks and Wildlife Foundation. 82 00:05:43,052 --> 00:05:45,888 Conservation is his thing. 83 00:05:46,931 --> 00:05:49,475 The wall is gonna be built through a lot of places 84 00:05:49,684 --> 00:05:51,436 that are very near and dear to his heart. 85 00:05:52,937 --> 00:05:54,657 She may be walking by the time you get back. 86 00:05:54,772 --> 00:05:56,332 - Oh, that's not a cool thing. - - Yeah. 87 00:05:57,525 --> 00:05:58,669 You sure I can't just strap her? 88 00:05:58,693 --> 00:06:00,486 I can put her in the Camel back. 89 00:06:00,695 --> 00:06:03,281 - No! - No, I put a little helmet on her with a-- 90 00:06:03,489 --> 00:06:05,129 A little basket in the front of your bike. 91 00:06:05,199 --> 00:06:06,826 - Yeah, with goggles. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 92 00:06:09,454 --> 00:06:11,622 Like this thing originated in Colorado 93 00:06:11,831 --> 00:06:15,001 and by the time it hits here, it's tiny, minuscule, 94 00:06:15,209 --> 00:06:18,338 and then the United States takes pretty much all of it. 95 00:06:19,380 --> 00:06:23,301 So we can't even float down the uh, the river right now, 96 00:06:23,509 --> 00:06:26,512 that's why we're taking bikes which I'm not that big a fan of, 97 00:06:26,721 --> 00:06:30,892 but you know, looking forward to the horror stretch. 98 00:06:31,100 --> 00:06:33,770 - Alright, get in there, nice and tight. - - Delighted. 99 00:06:37,148 --> 00:06:38,876 - Alright, I think that probably got it. - Alright. 100 00:06:38,900 --> 00:06:39,942 - Nailed it. - Yeah. 101 00:06:40,151 --> 00:06:41,911 What's the last time you rode a bike, Filipe? 102 00:06:42,612 --> 00:06:43,696 - Me? - Yeah. 103 00:06:43,905 --> 00:06:45,865 - This morning. - This morning. 104 00:06:46,074 --> 00:06:48,659 I just hopped off. Now I'm hoppin' back on again. 105 00:06:48,868 --> 00:06:50,508 Alright, let's go make some bad decisions. 106 00:06:50,578 --> 00:06:51,858 - Hell, yeah! - Let's go with it. 107 00:06:51,996 --> 00:06:53,414 Arrr! 108 00:07:02,548 --> 00:07:05,301 We are embarking on a 1,200-mile journey 109 00:07:05,510 --> 00:07:07,470 from El Paso to the Gulf of Mexico. 110 00:07:11,474 --> 00:07:13,810 Riding bicycles where there isn't enough water. 111 00:07:15,103 --> 00:07:17,647 Takin' my mustangs through the Big Bend. 112 00:07:19,690 --> 00:07:21,567 And canoeing down the Rio Grande. 113 00:07:26,781 --> 00:07:29,826 Tryin' to understand where exactly a wall would go 114 00:07:31,202 --> 00:07:32,703 and what effects it would have. 115 00:07:36,207 --> 00:07:38,418 Wait, wait, wait, time out. Serious question. 116 00:07:42,004 --> 00:07:44,924 There is goin' to be doors in this potential wall. 117 00:07:45,133 --> 00:07:47,760 Are there gonna be doors like this to access the Rio Grande? 118 00:07:47,969 --> 00:07:50,179 Like you'll have to get a key or something to acc-- No. 119 00:07:50,388 --> 00:07:53,558 No, and where there are access points like this, we'll have agents. 120 00:07:53,766 --> 00:07:55,226 And they'll have access to the gates. 121 00:07:55,476 --> 00:07:57,395 So you might not be able to get access to the 122 00:07:57,603 --> 00:07:59,439 Rio Grande area without Border Patrol. 123 00:07:59,647 --> 00:08:00,314 Okay. 124 00:08:00,523 --> 00:08:03,067 So after this, you're still technically in the United States. 125 00:08:03,276 --> 00:08:04,902 Okay, okay. 126 00:08:07,113 --> 00:08:08,113 Wow! 127 00:08:20,585 --> 00:08:22,879 Wait, so we are about to enter Mexico right now? 128 00:08:24,172 --> 00:08:27,675 No, we're just gonna ride on the Mexico side of the wall, 129 00:08:27,884 --> 00:08:29,218 but on the US. 130 00:08:30,261 --> 00:08:31,596 No-man zone. 131 00:08:34,098 --> 00:08:36,434 It's wild being along the wall 132 00:08:36,642 --> 00:08:40,021 to have this massive 25-foot barrier. 133 00:08:41,022 --> 00:08:44,692 It just feels so separate. 134 00:08:49,906 --> 00:08:54,035 While I was working in El Paso, they constructed the wall, 135 00:08:54,243 --> 00:08:55,828 and they did it in like 12 months. 136 00:08:56,037 --> 00:08:58,164 From my perspective, it wasn't a real 137 00:08:58,372 --> 00:09:02,502 like uh, cry against the construction 138 00:09:02,710 --> 00:09:03,753 of that fence at the time. 139 00:09:04,879 --> 00:09:07,882 But then since then I-- there have been people elected 140 00:09:08,090 --> 00:09:09,550 like congressman O'Rourke 141 00:09:09,759 --> 00:09:13,763 who was against the construction of a-- a fence. 142 00:09:13,971 --> 00:09:15,251 I-- I don't think a lot of people 143 00:09:15,306 --> 00:09:17,058 in the interior of the US understand 144 00:09:17,266 --> 00:09:19,018 that the wall will not literally be built 145 00:09:19,227 --> 00:09:21,187 at the border, at the international boundary line. 146 00:09:21,395 --> 00:09:23,898 It'll be built well within here, it's 100 yards. 147 00:09:24,106 --> 00:09:27,693 Other places it's-- it's a mile, 2 miles uh, into the interior 148 00:09:27,902 --> 00:09:31,030 and everywhere it's gonna look as ugly as this or uglier. 149 00:09:32,073 --> 00:09:36,536 El Paso for the last 20 years has been either the safest, 150 00:09:36,744 --> 00:09:40,081 the second-safest or the third-safest city in America, 151 00:09:40,289 --> 00:09:43,584 which is really remarkable, because it is at complete odds with the rhetoric 152 00:09:43,793 --> 00:09:45,253 about the border. 153 00:09:47,922 --> 00:09:50,716 Of the 2,000 miles of the US-Mexico border, 154 00:09:50,925 --> 00:09:52,927 I believe a little over 600 miles 155 00:09:53,135 --> 00:09:57,098 have fences, walls, physical barriers. 156 00:10:05,147 --> 00:10:09,569 And that began after the 2006 Secure Fencing Act, 157 00:10:09,777 --> 00:10:11,057 which Republicans and Democrats, 158 00:10:11,237 --> 00:10:13,739 inducing senators Obama and Clinton at the time, 159 00:10:13,948 --> 00:10:17,577 voted for, which essentially allowed the Bush administration, 160 00:10:17,785 --> 00:10:19,203 and then succeeding administrations, 161 00:10:19,412 --> 00:10:21,497 to put up these physical barriers 162 00:10:21,706 --> 00:10:25,501 and to effectively waive all environmental 163 00:10:25,710 --> 00:10:27,253 and local stakeholders' safeguards. 164 00:10:30,214 --> 00:10:33,175 I think people who aren't from the border, 165 00:10:34,635 --> 00:10:36,929 this might make a lot of sense to them like-- 166 00:10:37,138 --> 00:10:39,599 So we hear there are problems with Mexico or immigration 167 00:10:39,807 --> 00:10:43,603 or drugs, yeah, a-- a big giant fence 168 00:10:43,811 --> 00:10:47,106 with steel and concrete that-- that makes a lot of sense. 169 00:10:47,315 --> 00:10:49,525 When you live here, you, you obviously-- 170 00:10:49,734 --> 00:10:52,278 You see it differently and you feel it-- 171 00:10:52,486 --> 00:10:54,030 You feel it differently. 172 00:10:54,238 --> 00:10:58,034 I think being a politician 173 00:10:58,242 --> 00:11:01,954 and working um, 174 00:11:02,163 --> 00:11:05,875 across the aisle, in most cases for candidates, 175 00:11:06,834 --> 00:11:08,127 is not rewarded at all. 176 00:11:09,170 --> 00:11:12,882 They are rewarded for extreme stances. 177 00:11:13,090 --> 00:11:14,717 I'm Will Hurd. I'm the representative 178 00:11:14,925 --> 00:11:17,970 from the 23rd Congressional District of Texas, 179 00:11:18,179 --> 00:11:20,973 which goes from the fringes of El Paso 180 00:11:21,182 --> 00:11:22,308 all the way to San Antonio. 181 00:11:22,516 --> 00:11:25,853 I have 820 miles of the border. 182 00:11:26,062 --> 00:11:27,331 And I spent nine and a half years 183 00:11:27,355 --> 00:11:29,148 as an undercover officer in the CIA. 184 00:11:29,357 --> 00:11:30,957 I sit on the Homeland Security Committee. 185 00:11:31,901 --> 00:11:34,195 I've chased bad guys all over the world, 186 00:11:34,403 --> 00:11:38,240 I've chased terrorists, I've chased nuclear weapons, proliferators. 187 00:11:38,449 --> 00:11:41,035 I've tr-- I've chased the narcotraficantes. 188 00:11:41,243 --> 00:11:45,331 And you learn that your adversary has resources. 189 00:11:45,539 --> 00:11:48,793 They have um, the commitment to do something 190 00:11:49,001 --> 00:11:51,212 and they're-- they're-- they're-- they're smart. 191 00:11:51,420 --> 00:11:55,299 That's why any conversation um, on uh-- 192 00:11:55,508 --> 00:12:01,180 On immigration or security has to begin with operational control of our border. 193 00:12:01,389 --> 00:12:03,849 I went to John Marshall High School, but in 194 00:12:04,058 --> 00:12:05,869 - Okay, um-- - I'm talking about when-- when we were in-- 195 00:12:05,893 --> 00:12:08,062 When were in hi-- yeah. I took my ring off, 196 00:12:08,270 --> 00:12:10,374 - because obviously I was just supposed to. - No, dude you got to-- 197 00:12:10,398 --> 00:12:12,733 - what are you doing? - No, but like I didn't know-- 198 00:12:12,942 --> 00:12:14,443 Nobody else is wearing jewelry. 199 00:12:16,487 --> 00:12:18,781 We can get operational control of our border. 200 00:12:18,989 --> 00:12:22,743 We can enforce our laws to give deterrence 201 00:12:22,952 --> 00:12:24,787 and a consequence to that negative behavior. 202 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,294 We just got to the end of the wall for the first time. 203 00:12:35,464 --> 00:12:37,967 We need our-- our men and women in the Border Patrol 204 00:12:38,175 --> 00:12:40,344 to know exactly what the threat is, 205 00:12:40,553 --> 00:12:45,391 so they're not showing up with no information about what's going on. 206 00:12:45,599 --> 00:12:49,979 And-- and so that's why getting the right tools is important. 207 00:12:50,187 --> 00:12:52,815 And-- and I think-- I think folks need to realize 208 00:12:53,023 --> 00:12:55,943 that you know, um, that we wanna secure the border, 209 00:12:56,152 --> 00:12:58,404 we should have secured our border by now. 210 00:12:58,612 --> 00:13:00,698 - Let's roll. You all-- you all start going. 211 00:13:00,906 --> 00:13:02,175 Okay, we're gonna-- we're gonna head back. 212 00:13:02,199 --> 00:13:04,034 There is wa-- there's like-- 213 00:13:04,243 --> 00:13:06,524 - There is a canal right there. - We just cross the canal? 214 00:13:07,538 --> 00:13:10,338 - I'll take my shirt off and move across. - - I mean we could, but uh-- 215 00:13:10,416 --> 00:13:12,776 - Yeah. For sure, - It's supposed to be an adventure, right? 216 00:13:13,377 --> 00:13:16,172 We could jump through here, we could just sail right off. 217 00:13:19,550 --> 00:13:20,843 This shit is deep. 218 00:13:22,553 --> 00:13:24,680 You know, I can't get my bike-- 219 00:13:24,889 --> 00:13:28,434 Oh yeah! Oh, that's nice. 220 00:13:28,642 --> 00:13:30,895 Ooh! Ooh! 221 00:13:32,271 --> 00:13:33,773 Y'all didn't tell me it was cold. 222 00:13:33,981 --> 00:13:35,399 Yee-haw, I know! 223 00:13:35,608 --> 00:13:36,608 Gettin' the congressman 224 00:13:36,650 --> 00:13:38,736 in a bit of pickle here. 225 00:13:38,944 --> 00:13:40,029 Here we go. 226 00:13:41,572 --> 00:13:43,592 - Got it. - You want the camera or you want the hand? 227 00:13:43,616 --> 00:13:44,950 - I'll take your hand. - Yeah. 228 00:13:45,159 --> 00:13:46,368 What? 229 00:13:46,577 --> 00:13:48,120 - Yeah. - Getting through. 230 00:13:48,329 --> 00:13:50,414 Oh yeah. 231 00:13:50,623 --> 00:13:51,743 Your government salutes you. 232 00:13:51,916 --> 00:13:53,459 I'm sure. 233 00:13:53,667 --> 00:13:55,107 I get to my next appointment on time. 234 00:14:09,433 --> 00:14:10,476 Wooh-hoo-hoo-hoo! 235 00:14:15,439 --> 00:14:17,483 Cheers, boys. 236 00:14:17,691 --> 00:14:21,195 Hey, well, to only having five bike malfunctions. 237 00:14:21,403 --> 00:14:22,488 Yeah. 238 00:14:35,918 --> 00:14:37,211 Pretty good oatmeal. 239 00:14:39,547 --> 00:14:41,340 Glad I get to eat this. 240 00:14:41,549 --> 00:14:42,967 Is Heather up? 241 00:14:43,175 --> 00:14:44,176 Yeah, I'm up. 242 00:14:44,385 --> 00:14:45,803 Okay. 243 00:14:46,011 --> 00:14:47,291 Why? Then we need your expertise. 244 00:14:47,388 --> 00:14:49,223 There's all these birds flyin' around. 245 00:14:52,226 --> 00:14:54,353 Such a amazing way to start the day. 246 00:14:54,562 --> 00:14:57,857 Just you out there, listening to the birdsong, 247 00:14:58,607 --> 00:14:59,984 takin' everything in. 248 00:15:00,192 --> 00:15:02,278 And it's like such a great time to see 249 00:15:02,486 --> 00:15:05,030 all kinds of wildlife. 250 00:15:05,239 --> 00:15:08,909 I grew up in Upstate, New York. 251 00:15:09,118 --> 00:15:13,038 Went to college at Cornell where I studied ecology. 252 00:15:14,290 --> 00:15:17,543 I worked for about five years as a field biologist. 253 00:15:17,751 --> 00:15:21,255 Then I pursued my masters in The Big Bend 254 00:15:21,463 --> 00:15:23,257 and fell in love with the border. 255 00:15:26,510 --> 00:15:30,097 On this trip, I'm going to be doing 256 00:15:30,306 --> 00:15:35,352 as many bird surveys along the route as I can fit in. 257 00:15:35,561 --> 00:15:38,898 My intention is to survey these areas 258 00:15:39,106 --> 00:15:43,569 that nobody has really surveyed birds before 259 00:15:43,777 --> 00:15:47,239 to see what the biodiversity is 260 00:15:47,448 --> 00:15:50,451 before a potential border wall is built. 261 00:15:53,996 --> 00:15:56,248 When you think a high bird diversity 262 00:15:56,457 --> 00:16:00,920 or just high biodiversity, you don't think of a desert. 263 00:16:01,128 --> 00:16:06,842 But it's some of the highest vegetation diversity, and therefore bird diversity, 264 00:16:07,051 --> 00:16:09,553 because you have all these different elevations 265 00:16:09,762 --> 00:16:13,057 and you have the Rio Grande going through 266 00:16:13,265 --> 00:16:16,644 that creates a completely different habitat. 267 00:16:18,437 --> 00:16:21,565 If you're just cruisin' on by, you're gonna think 268 00:16:21,774 --> 00:16:23,943 there's not anything here. 269 00:16:24,151 --> 00:16:27,363 But if you just stop, and like look around, 270 00:16:27,571 --> 00:16:30,491 and listen for a little bit, you realize this place is alive. 271 00:17:02,272 --> 00:17:04,483 The Rio Grande is the fourth longest river 272 00:17:04,692 --> 00:17:06,443 in North America. 273 00:17:06,652 --> 00:17:09,488 It starts in Colorado, flows through New Mexico, 274 00:17:09,697 --> 00:17:13,993 and becomes the US-Mexico border for over 1,200 miles in Texas. 275 00:17:15,786 --> 00:17:18,330 There are so many dams and diversions 276 00:17:18,539 --> 00:17:22,209 that the Rio Grande runs dry below El Paso. 277 00:17:22,418 --> 00:17:25,504 And for nearly 300 miles, there is little to no water. 278 00:17:26,630 --> 00:17:28,257 The Forgotten Reach. 279 00:17:37,182 --> 00:17:38,702 - Well. - - Let me help you out with that. 280 00:17:38,726 --> 00:17:39,726 We're fucked. 281 00:17:39,852 --> 00:17:41,061 It's home. 282 00:17:46,316 --> 00:17:47,609 We'd start riding our bikes, 283 00:17:50,237 --> 00:17:52,364 and the ride's goin' pretty well, 284 00:17:52,573 --> 00:17:56,201 and then out of nowhere snow just starts dumpin' on us. 285 00:18:06,795 --> 00:18:10,466 I'm doing a-- Bring the toes back alive again. 286 00:18:12,301 --> 00:18:15,054 Wow, these are some big flakes. 287 00:18:18,348 --> 00:18:19,641 The temperature is dropping. 288 00:18:29,193 --> 00:18:32,738 The roads are very quickly degrading. 289 00:18:32,946 --> 00:18:34,448 You can ride for a little while 290 00:18:34,656 --> 00:18:39,244 and then the-- the wheels just accumulate mud. 291 00:18:39,453 --> 00:18:42,372 It's still like spring conditions everywhere. 292 00:18:45,542 --> 00:18:48,754 I've never been scared away from-- 293 00:18:48,962 --> 00:18:51,799 from getting you know, down to business and getting it done. 294 00:18:56,845 --> 00:18:58,305 But dang, that was some serious mud. 295 00:18:58,514 --> 00:19:00,182 That was class five mud right there. 296 00:19:22,246 --> 00:19:26,416 At some point, you're not riding the bike, 297 00:19:26,625 --> 00:19:28,794 the bike is riding you. 298 00:19:29,002 --> 00:19:32,798 And uh, you're starting to question the process. 299 00:19:35,300 --> 00:19:39,221 This thing is freaking heavy. 300 00:19:50,607 --> 00:19:55,154 We wake up the next morning, decide just to dump the bikes. 301 00:19:55,362 --> 00:19:59,324 We left our support crew and we continued on by foot. 302 00:20:25,934 --> 00:20:27,269 Literally, on my knees. 303 00:20:34,234 --> 00:20:35,736 What about in going to the valley 304 00:20:35,944 --> 00:20:38,906 or like goin' even farther up and goin' up and over this? 305 00:20:39,990 --> 00:20:40,990 Is that an option? 306 00:20:42,534 --> 00:20:45,495 I think our reference point is. 307 00:20:46,705 --> 00:20:48,457 We'll just have to go around and come back. 308 00:20:55,339 --> 00:20:56,882 Sorry, keep running. 309 00:20:57,090 --> 00:21:00,344 - Keep going. - That's it, yeah. 310 00:21:00,552 --> 00:21:03,392 For the first time in this trip, I mean we're only a week into the trip, 311 00:21:03,597 --> 00:21:05,307 but today is the first day 312 00:21:05,515 --> 00:21:08,310 that we got a real first hand perspective 313 00:21:08,518 --> 00:21:10,562 of what somebody would have to go through 314 00:21:10,771 --> 00:21:12,356 if they were to cross illegally. 315 00:21:12,564 --> 00:21:14,083 They wouldn't be doing it on horseback, 316 00:21:14,107 --> 00:21:15,547 they wouldn't be doing it on a canoe, 317 00:21:15,609 --> 00:21:17,194 they wouldn't be doing it on bike. 318 00:21:17,402 --> 00:21:19,002 - They'd be walking-- - For three months. 319 00:21:23,408 --> 00:21:26,286 We came over to the US from Brazil 320 00:21:26,495 --> 00:21:27,955 when I was about six years old. 321 00:21:29,748 --> 00:21:31,458 I was born in the countryside. 322 00:21:32,584 --> 00:21:34,211 I remember traveling in the Amazon 323 00:21:34,419 --> 00:21:36,964 and you know, life being carefree in a way. 324 00:21:39,633 --> 00:21:43,262 And then we were displaced from a flood. 325 00:21:47,057 --> 00:21:49,518 Growing up in Rio de Janeiro, 326 00:21:49,726 --> 00:21:53,522 we were living in the most notorious ghetto in the world 327 00:21:54,439 --> 00:21:59,444 very much at the forefront of drugs, and the cartel and violence. 328 00:22:00,654 --> 00:22:02,698 Anything was better in her eyes. 329 00:22:08,578 --> 00:22:11,373 We flew over here because my mom had a worker visa. 330 00:22:12,666 --> 00:22:14,710 And we came over, me and mom, my sister. 331 00:22:17,963 --> 00:22:20,590 I think it was my mom's intention 332 00:22:20,799 --> 00:22:24,511 to come over here and create a new life 333 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,472 for me and my sister, without my dad, 334 00:22:27,681 --> 00:22:30,684 because he was just a nightmare of a human being. 335 00:22:30,892 --> 00:22:33,812 He was really abusive and-- and addicted to drugs, 336 00:22:34,021 --> 00:22:37,316 and you know, not the kind of person 337 00:22:37,524 --> 00:22:39,943 that she wanted to raise her kids. 338 00:22:42,362 --> 00:22:44,614 What I don't think she expected was that 339 00:22:44,823 --> 00:22:48,869 he was going to get rid of all of our legal documents. 340 00:22:51,371 --> 00:22:54,291 She was faced with a very difficult decision. 341 00:22:54,499 --> 00:22:58,378 Go back to Brazil, and then try and come back um, 342 00:22:58,587 --> 00:23:00,505 another way through immigration 343 00:23:00,714 --> 00:23:02,382 or just stay here and figure it out. 344 00:23:04,384 --> 00:23:08,388 Ultimately that meant for about 14 years, we stayed illegally. 345 00:23:24,905 --> 00:23:29,743 There are four avenues or categories through which one can immigrate legally 346 00:23:29,951 --> 00:23:33,914 in to the United States. The first and the most common is one based 347 00:23:34,122 --> 00:23:37,542 on family reunification where preference is given 348 00:23:37,751 --> 00:23:41,380 to the immediate family members. 349 00:23:41,588 --> 00:23:45,050 The second route is through employer-based immigration. 350 00:23:47,094 --> 00:23:50,639 The third is through the refugee or asylum process. 351 00:23:52,849 --> 00:23:56,853 And the last category is through the diversity visa lottery. 352 00:23:58,855 --> 00:24:01,066 If you look at the past 10 or 15 years, 353 00:24:01,274 --> 00:24:04,069 you see a leveling out for about 1 million per year. 354 00:24:04,277 --> 00:24:05,612 There is a cap to that. 355 00:24:08,949 --> 00:24:11,451 Folks don't choose to be undocumented. 356 00:24:13,787 --> 00:24:15,831 When somebody says: "get in line", 357 00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:18,166 many times there aren't lines. 358 00:24:20,877 --> 00:24:24,589 The flow of migration to the US 359 00:24:24,798 --> 00:24:26,842 is really a function of our economy. 360 00:24:27,050 --> 00:24:30,679 The function of economies uh, in the Americas and it's hemisphere, 361 00:24:30,887 --> 00:24:34,975 a function of um, the kind of violence and brutality, 362 00:24:35,183 --> 00:24:38,979 civil wars and death that you find in Central America 363 00:24:39,187 --> 00:24:41,815 that-- that you have found off and on in-- in Mexico. 364 00:24:42,023 --> 00:24:44,025 There's also a misconception about Mexico. 365 00:24:45,152 --> 00:24:48,780 We are at net zero um, immigration with Mexico, 366 00:24:48,989 --> 00:24:51,825 which means it's not a plus or minus, right. 367 00:24:52,033 --> 00:24:54,369 Uh, most people will think that 368 00:24:54,578 --> 00:24:57,747 you know, most of the illegal immigration is coming from Mexico. 369 00:24:57,956 --> 00:25:00,792 It's not. It's coming from Central America. 370 00:25:01,001 --> 00:25:03,044 Mexico is actually a partner of ours 371 00:25:03,253 --> 00:25:05,130 in trying to stop illegal immigration, 372 00:25:05,338 --> 00:25:07,716 because they are dealing with some of the similar issues 373 00:25:07,924 --> 00:25:09,217 on their southern border. 374 00:25:16,725 --> 00:25:19,936 - Wow! Wow, look at this! - It's right there, man. 375 00:25:20,145 --> 00:25:21,855 - Wow! - It made me go so fast. 376 00:25:22,063 --> 00:25:24,983 - I'm so glad it's pavement. - - No mud. 377 00:25:25,192 --> 00:25:28,153 I'm just gonna do this, 'cause my knees can't bend. 378 00:25:42,834 --> 00:25:46,922 When that trailer pulled in, my heart just like filled with joy. 379 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,800 It symbolized the end of the bicycle, 380 00:25:51,009 --> 00:25:53,470 which is like the greatest 381 00:25:53,678 --> 00:25:55,597 thing that's happened thus far on the trip. 382 00:26:00,936 --> 00:26:03,188 Here's your horse. 383 00:26:03,396 --> 00:26:06,191 - Alright, let's do it. - - Your horse's name is "Donkey Dust". 384 00:26:08,860 --> 00:26:10,779 I think I'm ready for a new life together. 385 00:26:11,988 --> 00:26:13,114 Alright, we'll see you. 386 00:26:15,992 --> 00:26:18,537 Now, I've been fortunate to work on ranches 387 00:26:18,745 --> 00:26:22,958 and to do a lot of packed trips all over the American West. 388 00:26:24,668 --> 00:26:26,920 And then this is Dinosaur. 389 00:26:27,128 --> 00:26:30,757 My mustangs are so good, they know how to ride. 390 00:26:30,966 --> 00:26:32,801 - He's a beautiful mustang. - Yeah. 391 00:26:35,136 --> 00:26:36,972 I knew they would take good care of everybody, 392 00:26:38,014 --> 00:26:41,142 which is very important, because Filipe... 393 00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:44,563 no idea how to ride a horse. 394 00:26:44,771 --> 00:26:45,851 You think she'll let me on? 395 00:26:46,690 --> 00:26:48,692 You have riding boots. 396 00:26:52,112 --> 00:26:54,197 - What do you need, huh? - How do you get on? 397 00:26:54,406 --> 00:26:55,406 Just hop on! 398 00:26:59,619 --> 00:27:00,829 You know you got it. 399 00:27:07,794 --> 00:27:09,337 Yeah, buddy! 400 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,090 Alright, let's go. 401 00:27:12,299 --> 00:27:13,508 Let's go. 402 00:27:13,717 --> 00:27:15,027 - Help me, help me get off. - Okay, come on. 403 00:27:15,051 --> 00:27:16,636 Alright, hold on. 404 00:27:16,845 --> 00:27:19,264 Alright. Now, I'm gonna ride Ben around. 405 00:27:19,472 --> 00:27:21,266 Come on, Ben! 406 00:27:21,474 --> 00:27:24,894 I've been on a horse a handful of times 407 00:27:25,103 --> 00:27:29,357 like the touristy situation or like a birthday party or something. 408 00:27:30,692 --> 00:27:32,611 I'm not particularly concerned. 409 00:27:32,819 --> 00:27:34,904 I trust Ben's judgment. 410 00:27:35,113 --> 00:27:37,157 You know, which maybe I shouldn't. 411 00:27:38,408 --> 00:27:39,701 Let's ride! 412 00:27:45,790 --> 00:27:49,044 The part that I was most excited about was the Big Bend. 413 00:27:51,212 --> 00:27:54,633 Big Bend Ranch State Park is 300,000 acres. 414 00:27:54,841 --> 00:27:57,385 Big Bend Ranch National Park is 800,000 acres. 415 00:28:01,222 --> 00:28:05,060 Combined, it's this massive relatively untouched habitat. 416 00:28:09,272 --> 00:28:10,732 An ancestor of mine, 417 00:28:10,940 --> 00:28:13,151 who was Parks and Wildlife Commissioner 418 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:16,237 back in the '30s and '40s, visited this country 419 00:28:16,446 --> 00:28:20,075 when they were looking at designating Big Bend National Park. 420 00:28:21,701 --> 00:28:23,995 And he was a relatively famous rancher. 421 00:28:24,204 --> 00:28:25,997 So that's in his blood like he sees the land 422 00:28:26,206 --> 00:28:29,084 and he sees how am I gonna produce off of that land. 423 00:28:29,292 --> 00:28:31,002 And his comment 424 00:28:31,211 --> 00:28:33,838 that the highest and best use for that land 425 00:28:34,047 --> 00:28:36,257 is for public recreation. 426 00:28:38,802 --> 00:28:41,721 We're sitting on the results of that legacy. 427 00:28:43,807 --> 00:28:46,267 It's important for me to complete that circle, 428 00:28:47,477 --> 00:28:51,272 and try and protect an area that he saw promising. 429 00:28:52,315 --> 00:28:55,276 That's threatened right now by the law. 430 00:28:56,861 --> 00:29:01,700 And so if I can do something to sort of protect that legacy, 431 00:29:01,908 --> 00:29:05,203 then I feel like that's an important part of-- 432 00:29:05,412 --> 00:29:06,705 of my life right now. 433 00:29:21,761 --> 00:29:22,971 Pay attention, boys. 434 00:29:26,516 --> 00:29:28,017 Rocks! 435 00:29:28,226 --> 00:29:30,103 Easy, Tough, easy, easy. 436 00:29:30,311 --> 00:29:32,063 Alright, go ahead now. 437 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,483 Yeah, this is definitely a walker. 438 00:29:36,484 --> 00:29:38,153 - Yeah. - Carrying a lot, yeah. 439 00:29:38,361 --> 00:29:41,322 30 minutes in adventure mode, engaged. 440 00:29:42,782 --> 00:29:44,284 This area is 441 00:29:44,492 --> 00:29:47,078 some of the gnarliest, rockiest, nastiest 442 00:29:47,287 --> 00:29:48,496 terrain I've ever been in. 443 00:29:52,333 --> 00:29:56,045 Every single piece of vegetation out here has thorns 444 00:29:56,254 --> 00:29:58,047 and stickers and cactus. 445 00:30:05,889 --> 00:30:07,974 Alright. 446 00:30:08,183 --> 00:30:09,434 Good, good. 447 00:30:09,642 --> 00:30:11,102 Dude, these mustangs 448 00:30:11,311 --> 00:30:13,188 are made for the back country. 449 00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:19,110 Fortunately, all my mustangs, they were all born in the wild 450 00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:21,821 on public lands in the American West. 451 00:30:24,407 --> 00:30:28,411 They grew up in desolate harsh landscapes like this. 452 00:30:29,579 --> 00:30:32,081 They know how to walk through this country, 453 00:30:32,290 --> 00:30:33,970 they know how to meander through the rocks, 454 00:30:34,167 --> 00:30:37,170 and stay away from the cactus, and how to navigate 455 00:30:37,378 --> 00:30:39,214 through cliffs and difficult terrain. 456 00:30:40,381 --> 00:30:41,841 It makes me proud to-- 457 00:30:42,926 --> 00:30:45,261 to see my ponies take care of everybody so well 458 00:30:45,470 --> 00:30:47,472 and take care of themselves so well. 459 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,390 They are great-- they're great horses. 460 00:30:51,851 --> 00:30:53,436 Yeah, I like 461 00:30:53,645 --> 00:30:56,147 Five years ago, some friends and I went out 462 00:30:56,356 --> 00:30:57,440 and adopted these mustangs, 463 00:30:59,108 --> 00:31:03,154 trained them and rode 3,000 miles from Mexico to Canada 464 00:31:03,363 --> 00:31:05,240 through public lands in the American West. 465 00:31:09,035 --> 00:31:12,372 That experience completely changed my life 466 00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:16,167 and gave me a huge appreciation not only for these horses, 467 00:31:16,376 --> 00:31:17,585 but for public lands. 468 00:31:20,255 --> 00:31:23,842 Less than 3% of Texas is open to the public. 469 00:31:24,050 --> 00:31:25,050 That's it. 470 00:31:25,969 --> 00:31:29,138 And there is no way that you could put a border wall 471 00:31:29,347 --> 00:31:32,058 even close to the river in a lot of this country. 472 00:31:35,061 --> 00:31:37,021 It'd have to be built inland, 473 00:31:37,230 --> 00:31:41,526 bulldozed, and slicing apart the only big chunk of public land 474 00:31:41,734 --> 00:31:43,278 that we have left in Texas, 475 00:31:44,237 --> 00:31:47,574 essentially blocking us from the Rio Grande. 476 00:31:55,331 --> 00:31:57,292 You can feel the crisp air right by the Rio. 477 00:31:59,294 --> 00:32:00,920 Look at all that water. 478 00:32:01,129 --> 00:32:02,849 It's the first time we've been in the river. 479 00:32:08,344 --> 00:32:11,472 This is kind of emotional right now. 480 00:32:13,683 --> 00:32:15,143 I'm giddy. 481 00:32:15,351 --> 00:32:16,352 Oh yeah. 482 00:32:20,982 --> 00:32:22,191 He couldn't resist. 483 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,400 There he is. 484 00:32:29,532 --> 00:32:32,035 It's amazing, it's beautiful, and it's 485 00:32:32,243 --> 00:32:34,412 the lifeblood of this entire area. 486 00:32:34,621 --> 00:32:36,080 And uh... 487 00:32:37,165 --> 00:32:39,205 You don't really think about the politics behind it. 488 00:32:39,292 --> 00:32:40,919 - Watch out! - - If they could see this-- 489 00:32:41,127 --> 00:32:44,047 I'm sorry I can't pay attention with this going on. 490 00:32:44,255 --> 00:32:45,632 Are you coming? 491 00:32:46,591 --> 00:32:49,260 - I'm not-- I'm not wearing a underwear! - - Come on! 492 00:32:49,469 --> 00:32:52,263 - Perfect. - Alright, my bike shorts need washing. 493 00:32:54,057 --> 00:32:56,100 Oh, this is a terrible idea. 494 00:32:57,310 --> 00:32:58,353 Yeah, you better jump in. 495 00:32:58,561 --> 00:33:00,063 Get your ass in here! 496 00:33:00,271 --> 00:33:01,271 I'm comin'! 497 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,058 Big Bend is-- it's one of those vast landscapes 498 00:33:37,266 --> 00:33:39,978 that is unlike any other. 499 00:33:41,729 --> 00:33:44,148 There's just a huge amount of diversity 500 00:33:44,357 --> 00:33:46,985 from large mammals all the way down to the smallest. 501 00:33:48,486 --> 00:33:52,699 And we rely on Mexico for some of these populations. 502 00:33:54,784 --> 00:33:58,079 Black bear is probably the best example of that. 503 00:33:58,287 --> 00:34:01,040 You know, we basically extirpated black bears 504 00:34:01,249 --> 00:34:04,335 from the Big Bend region of Texas uh, in the 1950s, 505 00:34:04,544 --> 00:34:06,421 uh, hunting, trapping, things like that. 506 00:34:08,589 --> 00:34:13,344 Until about 1990, we had a-- a lone female come across 507 00:34:13,553 --> 00:34:16,431 and uh, she had cubs, that population started to grow. 508 00:34:26,482 --> 00:34:30,653 And now we have 40, 50, maybe even 100 bears in Texas today 509 00:34:30,862 --> 00:34:32,780 and that is solely dependent on Mexico. 510 00:34:35,825 --> 00:34:38,244 Our large mammals, they cross that river 511 00:34:38,453 --> 00:34:40,288 sometimes on a daily basis. 512 00:34:43,541 --> 00:34:45,585 If those porters are cut off 513 00:34:47,128 --> 00:34:49,505 you know, if there-- there is a wall there, 514 00:34:49,714 --> 00:34:51,549 it's gonna cut off that water source. 515 00:34:51,758 --> 00:34:54,052 We would start seeing issues genetically. 516 00:34:55,678 --> 00:34:58,097 They need to be able to move freely 517 00:34:58,306 --> 00:34:59,557 to be able to survive. 518 00:35:02,852 --> 00:35:05,104 Donkey found some shade. 519 00:35:06,105 --> 00:35:08,024 Oh, she did. Look at her over there. 520 00:35:08,232 --> 00:35:09,400 Oh, she's got a little patch. 521 00:35:09,609 --> 00:35:11,652 I would think that after a few hours 522 00:35:11,861 --> 00:35:15,073 - you would start to like get the motion down. - Yes. Yeah. 523 00:35:15,281 --> 00:35:16,532 But it still hasn't happened. 524 00:35:18,326 --> 00:35:21,245 I mean I'm not ruling kids out, but you know-- 525 00:35:43,601 --> 00:35:47,605 I think it's been a total shock to Heather 526 00:35:47,814 --> 00:35:50,483 and Filipe and Austin's body, 527 00:35:50,691 --> 00:35:55,738 because those are parts of your body and muscles 528 00:35:55,947 --> 00:35:58,366 that you don't normally use. 529 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,286 Describe the pain. 530 00:36:02,495 --> 00:36:05,081 Describe the pain. 531 00:36:05,289 --> 00:36:07,625 Imagine Bob the Builder jack hammering away 532 00:36:07,834 --> 00:36:10,294 at your business region for like 20 miles. 533 00:36:15,883 --> 00:36:18,469 I couldn't quite get the posture 534 00:36:18,678 --> 00:36:20,638 and the trot formation down. 535 00:36:20,847 --> 00:36:24,642 So instead of like posting and you know, just kind of like 536 00:36:24,851 --> 00:36:27,145 doing that dance with the horse, 537 00:36:27,353 --> 00:36:28,396 I was just bein'-- 538 00:36:38,865 --> 00:36:42,410 But with that being said, it was-- it was emotional. 539 00:36:46,247 --> 00:36:48,332 You don't connect with a bicycle 540 00:36:48,541 --> 00:36:52,587 or a unicycle or a canoe the same way you do with a horse. 541 00:36:54,589 --> 00:36:57,466 The only thing cooler than being on top of the world 542 00:36:57,675 --> 00:36:59,343 is being on top of the world on a horse. 543 00:37:16,861 --> 00:37:19,822 Visually you think that you can take off, ride somewhere, 544 00:37:20,031 --> 00:37:22,617 and then all of a sudden there is a 100-footed rail. 545 00:37:24,327 --> 00:37:26,495 There's just no trails in some of this country. 546 00:37:30,958 --> 00:37:31,959 I don't know. 547 00:37:33,628 --> 00:37:35,421 I don't know about this. 548 00:37:38,507 --> 00:37:39,759 Yeah, I don't-- I don't know 549 00:37:39,967 --> 00:37:42,261 if we're gonna just be bold and keep goin'. 550 00:37:53,773 --> 00:37:55,626 It's like some of the most rugged country that-- 551 00:37:55,650 --> 00:37:57,235 that I've ever been through in Texas, 552 00:37:57,443 --> 00:37:59,862 because you just have these boxed canyons and this-- 553 00:38:00,071 --> 00:38:03,324 these sheer rock faces on-- on either side of you. 554 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,005 Yeah, hold off on that route. 555 00:38:27,723 --> 00:38:29,767 Look to the right. 556 00:38:29,976 --> 00:38:30,976 We're boxed in. 557 00:38:31,143 --> 00:38:32,270 It's a boxed canyon. 558 00:38:33,354 --> 00:38:34,772 I was thinking w-- yeah. 559 00:38:34,981 --> 00:38:37,608 Could we not get semi-high ground? 560 00:38:37,817 --> 00:38:40,945 The smartest thing to do is turn around 561 00:38:41,153 --> 00:38:42,738 and go back the way we came. 562 00:38:43,823 --> 00:38:48,786 I feel about 95% confident that the game trail 563 00:38:48,995 --> 00:38:53,582 that does go up, would be perfectly fine for our horses, 564 00:38:53,791 --> 00:38:58,254 but that 5% risk is something that I'm not willing to risk 565 00:38:58,462 --> 00:38:59,462 with these guys. 566 00:39:00,589 --> 00:39:01,882 So let's just head on out, 567 00:39:02,091 --> 00:39:04,051 then that way everybody will be safe. 568 00:39:08,055 --> 00:39:12,643 This area is as difficult as any landscape 569 00:39:12,852 --> 00:39:14,353 that I've been to in the West. 570 00:39:15,438 --> 00:39:19,942 I don't see how you could build a physical border wall 571 00:39:20,151 --> 00:39:23,446 that's more difficult to cross through than this landscape. 572 00:39:25,573 --> 00:39:27,453 One of the things that I've been frustrated with 573 00:39:27,491 --> 00:39:29,577 when it comes to border security is 574 00:39:29,785 --> 00:39:31,787 we try to have a one-size-fits-all solution. 575 00:39:31,996 --> 00:39:36,500 Uh, you can't, because every mile is-- is different. 576 00:39:36,709 --> 00:39:40,963 You have the Rio Grande, you have the canyons, 577 00:39:42,048 --> 00:39:43,966 the Chihuahuan Desert, and you already have 578 00:39:44,175 --> 00:39:46,052 a physical barrier called mountains. 579 00:39:47,762 --> 00:39:50,890 In some areas where Border Patrol response time 580 00:39:51,098 --> 00:39:55,019 is measured in hours to days, 581 00:39:55,227 --> 00:39:58,647 a wall is not a physical barrier, right? 582 00:39:58,856 --> 00:40:02,360 In some places, where there is urban to urban contact, 583 00:40:02,568 --> 00:40:06,697 a fence makes sense, because Border Patrol can measure the response time 584 00:40:06,906 --> 00:40:08,532 in seconds to minutes. 585 00:40:08,741 --> 00:40:11,285 But doing it in the desert and in Big Bend, 586 00:40:11,494 --> 00:40:12,787 that's just crazy. 587 00:40:16,499 --> 00:40:19,710 Building a wall from sea to shining sea 588 00:40:19,919 --> 00:40:22,713 is the most expensive and least effective way 589 00:40:22,922 --> 00:40:23,964 to do border security. 590 00:40:38,479 --> 00:40:40,398 Another beautiful morning in the Rio Grande. 591 00:40:53,202 --> 00:40:54,453 We're going to Mexico! 592 00:40:55,663 --> 00:40:56,663 Doin' it, guys! 593 00:41:01,627 --> 00:41:04,505 I'm officially in Mexico. Ahay! 594 00:41:04,713 --> 00:41:05,713 Let's go get tacos. 595 00:41:18,936 --> 00:41:22,440 Oh! 596 00:41:22,648 --> 00:41:24,775 - Oh! - Oh my gosh! 597 00:41:24,984 --> 00:41:26,944 Oh, man! 598 00:41:27,153 --> 00:41:28,833 - Oh, these enchiladas? - - Um, so excited. 599 00:41:28,988 --> 00:41:30,448 Oh my gosh! 600 00:41:30,656 --> 00:41:32,032 - Mmm. - I have two spoons. 601 00:41:32,241 --> 00:41:33,617 - Oh my God! - I mean two forks. 602 00:41:33,826 --> 00:41:34,826 Perfect. 603 00:41:35,494 --> 00:41:38,205 - Hi, welcome. - Thanks so much. 604 00:41:38,414 --> 00:41:40,291 Would you like to sit down? 605 00:41:41,333 --> 00:41:43,002 - Welcome. - Thank you! 606 00:41:43,210 --> 00:41:47,381 Thank you for eating our food. I hope you like it. 607 00:41:47,590 --> 00:41:48,984 - It was delicious! - The food is so good! 608 00:41:49,008 --> 00:41:50,634 Tell her, to eat one of these tacos 609 00:41:50,885 --> 00:41:52,595 is like being kissed by an angel. 610 00:41:53,137 --> 00:41:56,348 So, how long has this restaurant been in your family? 611 00:41:59,768 --> 00:42:01,562 Oh my god, I'm full. 612 00:42:04,148 --> 00:42:06,066 Jay, you got the time? 613 00:42:06,275 --> 00:42:08,027 11 to. 614 00:42:12,740 --> 00:42:15,659 This is gonna be like my Christmas present this year. 615 00:42:15,868 --> 00:42:18,746 Spread the wealth. Spread the wealth. It stops. 616 00:42:19,538 --> 00:42:20,538 Chalo! 617 00:42:20,623 --> 00:42:22,503 - Pleasure to meet you. - Very nice to meet you. 618 00:42:22,708 --> 00:42:25,002 Chalo here is telling us about the uh, power plant 619 00:42:25,211 --> 00:42:27,814 that we should go check out. From there it's a really good view to look through. 620 00:42:27,838 --> 00:42:29,673 But it's a-- it's a solar power plant. 621 00:42:29,882 --> 00:42:31,151 - This is all solar power. - No way. 622 00:42:31,175 --> 00:42:32,611 It's the one that provides electricity 623 00:42:32,635 --> 00:42:34,315 - to the whole town here. - You're kidding. 624 00:42:34,762 --> 00:42:37,056 What do you believe would happen here in Boquillas 625 00:42:37,264 --> 00:42:39,767 if a wall were constructed? 626 00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:43,354 What would be affected... 627 00:42:44,188 --> 00:42:45,648 is the wildlife. 628 00:42:45,856 --> 00:42:48,692 Because there, if we look here is a mountain range here 629 00:42:48,901 --> 00:42:50,653 and a mountain range over there. 630 00:42:50,861 --> 00:42:53,155 And these mountain ranges share the wildlife. 631 00:42:54,406 --> 00:42:57,368 Here, we've seen bears, 632 00:42:57,576 --> 00:43:00,996 black bears, lions. 633 00:43:01,205 --> 00:43:04,166 The lions come down specifically because there's a river, 634 00:43:04,375 --> 00:43:06,377 so they walk down from the mountain. 635 00:43:06,585 --> 00:43:09,838 The wildlife is something we value here 636 00:43:10,047 --> 00:43:14,385 apart from everything else, it's also an attraction for tourism. 637 00:43:14,593 --> 00:43:15,761 What do you think 638 00:43:15,970 --> 00:43:19,640 It's been eighty years that 639 00:43:19,848 --> 00:43:26,438 we've been thinking and talking about a binational park. 640 00:43:26,647 --> 00:43:29,650 What do you think is necessary 641 00:43:29,858 --> 00:43:34,822 to make it a reality? 642 00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:37,241 I would like it, and would love to see it happen. 643 00:43:37,449 --> 00:43:40,452 I am willing to put my part in what is necessary 644 00:43:40,661 --> 00:43:43,497 But people are needed with the drive, 645 00:43:43,706 --> 00:43:47,501 that come with a positive outlook, not with a negative one. 646 00:43:51,755 --> 00:43:56,135 There's been talk about a binational park for decades. 647 00:43:58,345 --> 00:44:01,640 There's millions of acres that are already held 648 00:44:01,849 --> 00:44:03,934 in public trust by both countries. 649 00:44:06,979 --> 00:44:09,106 It's time to see somebody step forward 650 00:44:09,315 --> 00:44:12,860 and really shepherd that and bring that into fruition. 651 00:44:15,321 --> 00:44:17,865 It would be a really natural step. 652 00:44:18,073 --> 00:44:22,369 There's already huge protected lands on both sides. 653 00:44:23,787 --> 00:44:26,206 The river itself is wild and scenic. 654 00:44:29,418 --> 00:44:34,131 There's populations of bear and mountain lion 655 00:44:34,340 --> 00:44:37,134 and birds and butterflies moving back and forth 656 00:44:37,343 --> 00:44:39,637 between the two protected areas. 657 00:44:40,763 --> 00:44:46,143 It blows my mind. So many times I found myself saying: "This is in Texas?" 658 00:44:46,352 --> 00:44:51,815 Like we're not in Montana or Yellowstone or Yosemite." 659 00:44:52,024 --> 00:44:53,776 You know, this place is legendary. 660 00:44:55,694 --> 00:45:00,157 It's Texas' last chance to create something truly great 661 00:45:00,366 --> 00:45:03,577 as far as a huge intact ecosystem. 662 00:45:03,786 --> 00:45:05,412 And we can't do it without Mexico. 663 00:45:07,289 --> 00:45:09,792 On the last big horseback journey, we rode through 664 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,004 Waterton-Glacier International Peace Park on the US-Canada border, 665 00:45:16,757 --> 00:45:19,009 created to symbolize a friendship 666 00:45:19,218 --> 00:45:22,429 and a shared ecosystem between the two countries. 667 00:45:24,306 --> 00:45:26,392 That same opportunity exists here. 668 00:45:30,437 --> 00:45:32,898 And it's a completely different way 669 00:45:33,107 --> 00:45:34,942 to look at the US-Mexico border. 670 00:46:22,906 --> 00:46:24,116 Whoa, we got shadows! 671 00:46:24,324 --> 00:46:26,243 Yay, that's our goal! 672 00:46:27,828 --> 00:46:29,997 - Ben, get a photo! - I got it. 673 00:46:30,205 --> 00:46:32,750 - Yeah, that's so neat. - Wow! 674 00:46:32,958 --> 00:46:33,959 Isn't nature neat? 675 00:46:34,168 --> 00:46:35,836 I-- Good job, nature. 676 00:46:37,045 --> 00:46:40,883 - Good job. - - Well, after riding bicycles and riding horses, 677 00:46:41,091 --> 00:46:42,851 we've all come to the agreement that they are 678 00:46:42,885 --> 00:46:45,095 a far superior form of transportation. 679 00:46:51,643 --> 00:46:53,020 Alright, Tough. 680 00:46:55,898 --> 00:46:57,775 Come on, donkey. 681 00:46:57,983 --> 00:46:59,443 I think we might have to pick her up. 682 00:46:59,651 --> 00:47:00,778 Come on, girlfriend. 683 00:47:00,986 --> 00:47:02,237 - Aw! - Aw! 684 00:47:02,446 --> 00:47:04,865 - That's a good girl - Great donkey. 685 00:47:05,073 --> 00:47:06,950 - Ben, you-- - Ben, you stay in there. 686 00:47:08,118 --> 00:47:10,078 Actually, I feel like staying with my horses. 687 00:47:10,287 --> 00:47:11,413 Bye, ponies. 688 00:47:11,622 --> 00:47:12,831 I miss you already. 689 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,458 Oh! Be good, horses. 690 00:47:14,666 --> 00:47:16,026 - Stay well, guys. - See you, Star. 691 00:47:16,084 --> 00:47:18,086 Don't let anybody else ride you. 692 00:47:18,295 --> 00:47:19,922 That goes for the rest of your life. 693 00:47:20,130 --> 00:47:21,131 Donkey, now, you too. 694 00:47:21,340 --> 00:47:22,900 - Oh, see, donkey is calling you. - Man. 695 00:47:23,383 --> 00:47:24,468 It's sad to see him go. 696 00:47:25,511 --> 00:47:27,054 Let's go get us some canoes. 697 00:47:28,514 --> 00:47:30,265 Aw! 698 00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:38,148 Springs flow in to the Rio Grande 699 00:47:38,357 --> 00:47:40,025 and Big Bend National Park, 700 00:47:40,234 --> 00:47:42,528 and there is now enough water to paddle a canoe. 701 00:47:45,405 --> 00:47:47,199 For the next 150 miles, 702 00:47:47,407 --> 00:47:49,827 we are going to travel through Boquillas Canyon 703 00:47:50,035 --> 00:47:53,163 and the Lower Canyons, an area so special, 704 00:47:53,372 --> 00:47:56,291 and so rugged that it is federally protected 705 00:47:56,500 --> 00:47:58,001 as a wild and scenic river. 706 00:48:02,256 --> 00:48:03,841 I think we needed to take account 707 00:48:04,967 --> 00:48:06,510 of what exactly we're doing right now. 708 00:48:06,718 --> 00:48:08,387 We're going into the most wild places 709 00:48:08,595 --> 00:48:09,930 in the state of Texas. 710 00:48:10,138 --> 00:48:12,099 We are going into true wilderness 711 00:48:13,475 --> 00:48:14,893 where there's no support. 712 00:48:15,102 --> 00:48:16,454 Like our vehicles have us supported on. 713 00:48:16,478 --> 00:48:18,105 I think all of us, 714 00:48:18,313 --> 00:48:21,275 we should have a higher sense of risk management. 715 00:48:22,568 --> 00:48:23,902 We got high pressure, 716 00:48:24,111 --> 00:48:28,240 500 cfs and 15 miles to go today. 717 00:48:28,448 --> 00:48:32,077 750 left in the journey. 718 00:48:32,286 --> 00:48:33,286 Feelin' pretty good. 719 00:48:34,621 --> 00:48:37,040 The river does not discriminate, it can be any of us. 720 00:48:38,542 --> 00:48:40,252 There is three kinds of boatmen. 721 00:48:40,460 --> 00:48:43,922 One that has flipped, one that is going to flip, 722 00:48:44,131 --> 00:48:45,257 and one that is flipping. 723 00:48:47,342 --> 00:48:48,342 That's a fact. 724 00:48:52,347 --> 00:48:53,390 Oh! 725 00:48:54,433 --> 00:48:56,894 - Oh, Austin dissipated. - What does that mean? 726 00:48:58,103 --> 00:49:00,063 - Oh shit. - Oh shit. 727 00:49:00,272 --> 00:49:01,273 Oh shit. 728 00:49:01,481 --> 00:49:02,566 - Stay there, Ben. - No, no! 729 00:49:02,774 --> 00:49:05,819 No! No!, No! No! No! 730 00:49:06,028 --> 00:49:07,505 - Not the camera again, guys! - - Oh my God! 731 00:49:07,529 --> 00:49:08,609 There you go, there you go. 732 00:49:10,449 --> 00:49:13,076 It was good to acknowledge that things can go bad. 733 00:49:13,285 --> 00:49:16,121 And they can go bad really fast and really easy. 734 00:49:16,330 --> 00:49:17,330 Make it on the-- 735 00:49:18,415 --> 00:49:20,476 I know we just like to s-- like we were talking about just 736 00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:21,603 like going and learning on the river, 737 00:49:21,627 --> 00:49:24,922 but like if we can't handle this, 738 00:49:25,130 --> 00:49:26,965 we got no business going up to Lower Canyons. 739 00:49:54,409 --> 00:49:56,578 Yeah, I think Ben might have seen them first. 740 00:49:56,787 --> 00:50:01,583 We kind of rounded the Bend and they had been drinking out of the river end. 741 00:50:01,792 --> 00:50:06,338 We pulled off and they were uh, probably a dozen desert sheep. 742 00:50:06,546 --> 00:50:08,382 There's at least one up there with a collar. 743 00:50:08,590 --> 00:50:10,133 Could you give an estimate with out-- 744 00:50:10,342 --> 00:50:11,982 It was pretty spectacular to have actually 745 00:50:12,177 --> 00:50:14,304 seen them utilizing the river. 746 00:50:14,513 --> 00:50:18,308 That-- that sort of hit home to me that that's their water source. 747 00:50:18,517 --> 00:50:20,018 All you're you seeing is a cool effort 748 00:50:20,227 --> 00:50:22,646 between US and Mexico, 'cause those sheep, 749 00:50:22,854 --> 00:50:24,982 they have no idea which side of the river is which? 750 00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:26,709 And they're probably-- they're down here 751 00:50:26,733 --> 00:50:29,987 like drinking from the Rio and probably cross over, 752 00:50:30,195 --> 00:50:32,423 - go into Mexico. - You think they'll cross into Mexico and-- 753 00:50:32,447 --> 00:50:33,198 - Oh, for sure. - Yeah? 754 00:50:33,407 --> 00:50:34,408 They've got collar data, 755 00:50:34,616 --> 00:50:35,616 they just use-- 756 00:50:35,701 --> 00:50:37,202 They go all across in here. 757 00:50:38,745 --> 00:50:42,457 Yeah, it's a cool history, because they were completely eliminated 758 00:50:42,666 --> 00:50:44,209 out of this area. 759 00:50:44,418 --> 00:50:46,545 And then about 50 years ago, 760 00:50:46,753 --> 00:50:49,172 they started bringin' them back. And they went from zero 761 00:50:49,381 --> 00:50:51,341 to where they now have over 2,000 of 'em. 762 00:50:51,550 --> 00:50:53,510 It's like this huge story of conservation... 763 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,159 - Ben's boat! - success in this area. 764 00:50:55,220 --> 00:50:56,972 - Oh shit! - Oh shit. 765 00:50:57,180 --> 00:50:58,557 Guys, help! 766 00:50:58,765 --> 00:51:01,268 - Hold this. - I got distracted by the sheep. 767 00:51:02,477 --> 00:51:04,354 You got a paddle? 768 00:51:04,563 --> 00:51:07,566 He doesn't have a paddle! 769 00:51:07,774 --> 00:51:09,359 He's-- he's gonna rev, Jay! 770 00:51:13,321 --> 00:51:15,449 He doesn't know how to paddle. 771 00:51:15,657 --> 00:51:17,784 He's never steered before! 772 00:51:26,376 --> 00:51:28,128 This environment on the river, 773 00:51:28,336 --> 00:51:30,255 Austin's just had a lot of experience 774 00:51:30,464 --> 00:51:34,384 and so he really knows how to like pace the group, 775 00:51:34,593 --> 00:51:37,554 he knows how to run rapids, he knows how to scale. 776 00:51:37,763 --> 00:51:40,807 That was a new part of Austin that we hadn't seen previously. 777 00:51:42,517 --> 00:51:45,020 This is a first class 3 that we've seen 778 00:51:45,228 --> 00:51:46,396 this entire time out here. 779 00:51:48,356 --> 00:51:51,359 We've got our rescue line ready 780 00:51:51,568 --> 00:51:56,114 in case he flips and has to bend his boat. 781 00:51:56,323 --> 00:51:57,323 Here we go. 782 00:51:59,201 --> 00:52:02,204 Slight tip to the right. Bow to the right. 783 00:52:02,412 --> 00:52:03,830 Wooh! 784 00:52:05,540 --> 00:52:06,750 No thanks. 785 00:52:06,958 --> 00:52:08,126 Alright, I'm up. 786 00:52:09,544 --> 00:52:11,671 Paddle hard, take chances, y'all! 787 00:52:14,966 --> 00:52:16,384 Yeah. Yeah. 788 00:52:16,593 --> 00:52:18,512 You guys are makin' this look easy. 789 00:52:19,721 --> 00:52:22,182 Jay, come on! 790 00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:24,550 Stream it up, stream it up, stream it up, stream it up! 791 00:52:26,812 --> 00:52:28,730 Yeah, that was great. I loved it. 792 00:52:28,939 --> 00:52:31,066 Alright, everybody else nailed it. 793 00:52:31,274 --> 00:52:33,401 So uh, we got to have one spill, right? 794 00:52:33,610 --> 00:52:35,070 Oh my god. 795 00:52:35,278 --> 00:52:38,657 Oh no! 796 00:52:41,576 --> 00:52:43,411 That's it, that's it, that's it. 797 00:52:47,499 --> 00:52:48,875 You lucky son of a bitch! 798 00:52:50,252 --> 00:52:52,420 Hey, I tried to make it interesting for you! 799 00:53:02,556 --> 00:53:05,433 People are not thinking of this area 800 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,478 when they're picturing the border 801 00:53:08,687 --> 00:53:12,107 and building a border wall. 802 00:53:12,315 --> 00:53:14,609 I think they're thinking of the cities. 803 00:53:18,488 --> 00:53:20,615 It's this wild place that's super rugged 804 00:53:20,824 --> 00:53:22,701 and hard to get through anyway. 805 00:53:24,536 --> 00:53:27,789 Why would we construct a barrier there? 806 00:53:27,998 --> 00:53:29,249 A man made barrier. 807 00:53:32,377 --> 00:53:36,214 This is like going through the Grand Canyon, 808 00:53:36,423 --> 00:53:40,177 paddling the Colorado without the crowds. 809 00:53:40,385 --> 00:53:46,349 It's just as-- as remote, and grand, and wild. 810 00:54:23,386 --> 00:54:27,182 One of my biggest joys is that I get to show people 811 00:54:27,390 --> 00:54:29,309 what I love, and that's the Rio Grande. 812 00:54:31,728 --> 00:54:36,441 The first time it impacted me was when I came here in college. 813 00:54:36,650 --> 00:54:40,737 Uh, I was actually coming here to train to be a river guide 814 00:54:40,946 --> 00:54:44,658 and the first trip I ever did was Dark Canyon, 815 00:54:44,866 --> 00:54:46,368 which is a short, but tall canyon. 816 00:54:46,576 --> 00:54:48,411 Short in length, tall in height canyon 817 00:54:48,620 --> 00:54:50,205 in the State Park. 818 00:54:50,413 --> 00:54:52,874 And I fell in love with what's easy to fall in love with 819 00:54:53,083 --> 00:54:55,919 you know, beauty, the grandness, the-- the just 820 00:54:56,127 --> 00:55:00,423 total uh, magnificence of the Rio Grande. 821 00:55:00,632 --> 00:55:02,592 And then the more I explored, the more I just, 822 00:55:02,801 --> 00:55:05,804 for lack of better words, was wowed! 823 00:55:36,042 --> 00:55:37,877 And lately I've been thinking about how... 824 00:55:39,546 --> 00:55:42,841 I got into this whole outdoor recreation industry 825 00:55:44,426 --> 00:55:45,969 for a lot of reasons and one of which-- 826 00:55:46,177 --> 00:55:49,472 which-- that I've never really admitted to myself 827 00:55:49,681 --> 00:55:52,726 is I've grown up as the child of illegal immigrants. 828 00:55:52,934 --> 00:55:56,229 Status is a really big thing 829 00:55:56,438 --> 00:55:58,606 as much-- you know, I-- My parents are really proud. 830 00:55:58,815 --> 00:56:01,276 They-- they taught me that you know, you-- 831 00:56:01,484 --> 00:56:03,987 you work for everything you have and you-- 832 00:56:04,195 --> 00:56:07,615 you don't ask for things, you earn things. 833 00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:11,786 But I'd be lying to tell you that as a child of an-- 834 00:56:11,995 --> 00:56:13,371 of illegal immigrants, 835 00:56:14,456 --> 00:56:15,976 status was in-- in the back of my head. 836 00:56:16,166 --> 00:56:18,019 And it-- it sounds awful and I hate to admit it, 837 00:56:18,043 --> 00:56:20,670 but it has been. 838 00:56:20,879 --> 00:56:22,559 Like why couldn't my parents learn English? 839 00:56:24,674 --> 00:56:29,346 Why couldn't they know how the school system worked? 840 00:56:30,472 --> 00:56:31,472 I just didn't understand. 841 00:56:31,556 --> 00:56:32,932 I was angry, I was mad. 842 00:56:35,060 --> 00:56:37,896 And the outdoors, the Rio Grande, 843 00:56:38,104 --> 00:56:41,858 that's somewhere where status doesn't matter, you know? 844 00:56:42,067 --> 00:56:44,778 It is a true level playing field. 845 00:56:46,905 --> 00:56:48,031 And I find that... 846 00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:52,702 my connection to the Rio Grande, 847 00:56:52,911 --> 00:56:56,539 my connection to the Big Bend is really founded on that. 848 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,630 It's such an equalizer. 849 00:57:12,931 --> 00:57:14,771 Alright, so this is where we have to figure out 850 00:57:14,974 --> 00:57:17,060 where we wanna pull it to the right 851 00:57:17,268 --> 00:57:19,062 around this penile crap right here, 852 00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:20,397 which we wanna avoid, 853 00:57:20,605 --> 00:57:21,981 or run the shoot on the left side 854 00:57:22,190 --> 00:57:23,650 down the actual Madison Falls. 855 00:57:26,653 --> 00:57:28,696 I don't know how the hell-- I mean I'm-- 856 00:57:28,905 --> 00:57:31,585 don't know what I'm doing regardless, but I don't know how you would 857 00:57:31,616 --> 00:57:34,744 do this in a canoe. 858 00:57:34,953 --> 00:57:38,415 Yeah, like how is it like-- This is only a Kayak City, right? 859 00:57:43,878 --> 00:57:45,630 Oh gosh! See, that's-- 860 00:57:45,839 --> 00:57:47,590 - Oh shit. - Oh shit. 861 00:57:47,799 --> 00:57:48,800 Oh. 862 00:57:49,843 --> 00:57:52,095 Oh! 863 00:57:57,016 --> 00:57:59,018 See, that's what I was worried about. Yeah. 864 00:58:02,147 --> 00:58:04,649 Ben, are you going? Are you still goin'? 865 00:58:06,151 --> 00:58:07,819 - Yeah! - Yeah! 866 00:58:08,027 --> 00:58:09,195 Yeah. 867 00:58:11,865 --> 00:58:14,576 Spin yourself before you back yourself in. 868 00:58:14,784 --> 00:58:18,413 - Get it straight on! Go on! Stay left. - Stay left! Go high! 869 00:58:18,621 --> 00:58:20,623 - He's hit it. - - No, he's got it, he's got it! 870 00:58:20,832 --> 00:58:22,792 - Oh! - Oh shit. 871 00:58:23,001 --> 00:58:24,001 He's stuck. 872 00:58:24,919 --> 00:58:26,880 Ben, don't get caught underneath! 873 00:58:39,893 --> 00:58:41,019 I can't move it! 874 00:58:42,937 --> 00:58:45,017 Can we get on that corner? Hang up, hang up, hang up! 875 00:58:45,190 --> 00:58:46,232 Stop, stop. 876 00:58:51,613 --> 00:58:52,655 On the count of three. 877 00:58:52,864 --> 00:58:55,742 One, two, three. 878 00:58:57,660 --> 00:58:58,912 Let it go, let it go. 879 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,080 Okay, let it go, let it go, let it go, let it go. 880 00:59:01,289 --> 00:59:02,999 - Watch out, watch out. - Watch out, JK! 881 00:59:03,208 --> 00:59:04,501 You want me to get in it? 882 00:59:04,709 --> 00:59:05,752 What, oh no, no! 883 00:59:16,095 --> 00:59:17,847 Oh man. 884 00:59:18,056 --> 00:59:19,516 Well. 885 00:59:19,724 --> 00:59:23,019 Oh, no. It's already taking in water. 886 00:59:25,313 --> 00:59:27,649 Oh, ho, ho, ho. 887 00:59:30,777 --> 00:59:32,779 Come on, Jay, come on, Jay. 888 00:59:43,289 --> 00:59:44,874 That looked kinda scary. 889 00:59:51,256 --> 00:59:52,632 Fell. 890 01:00:12,944 --> 01:00:14,320 Two, and three. 891 01:00:16,364 --> 01:00:18,032 There goes the bag. There goes the bag. 892 01:00:38,386 --> 01:00:41,222 I don't know, I feel-- I feel good. I feel like everybody's 893 01:00:41,431 --> 01:00:42,724 had a little bit of a wakeup call 894 01:00:42,932 --> 01:00:44,809 and uh, we should have a good day 895 01:00:45,018 --> 01:00:47,186 today, hopefully stay dry. 896 01:00:47,395 --> 01:00:51,649 The weather forecast is calling for lows in the low 20s 897 01:00:51,858 --> 01:00:54,611 with 20 to 30 mile per hour north winds 898 01:00:54,819 --> 01:00:56,529 with gusts up to 40. 899 01:00:56,738 --> 01:00:58,239 That is our tailwind. 900 01:00:58,448 --> 01:01:01,743 So, we're getting to make lemonade 901 01:01:01,951 --> 01:01:04,078 out of these weather lemons. 902 01:01:06,748 --> 01:01:07,749 Good one. 903 01:01:07,957 --> 01:01:10,293 You had time for the-- 904 01:01:10,501 --> 01:01:12,855 - for the thing to make time for. - - Yeah, make time for you. 905 01:01:12,879 --> 01:01:14,255 Yeah. 906 01:01:14,464 --> 01:01:16,633 It's not ideal, but it's the way that it is. 907 01:01:25,767 --> 01:01:27,685 So we've been paddling for 30-plus miles now 908 01:01:27,894 --> 01:01:30,980 and we're entering the main body of Lake Amistad. 909 01:01:53,711 --> 01:01:55,338 We're doing just great! 910 01:01:55,546 --> 01:01:57,173 Hey, Heather! 911 01:01:57,382 --> 01:01:58,132 - Only-- - Howdy, Ben. 912 01:01:58,341 --> 01:01:59,842 Only 12 more miles 913 01:02:00,051 --> 01:02:03,179 directly into the headwind. 914 01:02:03,388 --> 01:02:07,016 Twelve more miles to get some white caps on the lake, 915 01:02:07,225 --> 01:02:09,060 but the sun is out today. 916 01:02:48,850 --> 01:02:50,370 We are now done with the Canyon Country 917 01:02:50,518 --> 01:02:52,145 and Lake Amistad. 918 01:02:52,353 --> 01:02:55,398 The terrain here flattens out, there's more people, 919 01:02:55,606 --> 01:03:00,069 and a border wall already exists along most of the towns and cities. 920 01:03:00,278 --> 01:03:02,363 But the open country doesn't have a wall yet. 921 01:03:02,572 --> 01:03:04,907 So we met up with rancher Steve Lamantia 922 01:03:05,116 --> 01:03:07,285 to see how it will affect his operation. 923 01:03:07,493 --> 01:03:11,205 Water in-- in this part of the country is life. 924 01:03:11,414 --> 01:03:13,124 So water is very important to us. 925 01:03:13,332 --> 01:03:15,418 Without the water, we-- we can't operate. 926 01:03:15,626 --> 01:03:17,795 My name is Steve Lamantia. 927 01:03:18,004 --> 01:03:21,257 I am in charge of the ranch operation. 928 01:03:21,466 --> 01:03:25,303 Basically been on the river or on the border my whole life. 929 01:03:25,511 --> 01:03:29,307 But for the longest time we always considered Mexico 930 01:03:29,515 --> 01:03:33,436 and the US as one. And no division uh, because there was 931 01:03:33,644 --> 01:03:36,856 such a fluid movement of people back and forth. 932 01:03:37,064 --> 01:03:40,109 My wife and I-- my children grew up with kids 933 01:03:40,318 --> 01:03:42,403 from Mexico when going back and forth to Mexico 934 01:03:42,612 --> 01:03:44,405 was like goin' across the street. 935 01:03:46,073 --> 01:03:48,284 People don't really understand the border, I think, 936 01:03:48,493 --> 01:03:50,745 that are-- that are-- that are talking about it. 937 01:03:50,953 --> 01:03:53,539 They don't take the time to come down here and look at it. 938 01:03:54,499 --> 01:03:57,210 So did you know that Border Patrol was down here? 939 01:03:57,418 --> 01:03:59,170 No, they have-- I give 'em open access. 940 01:03:59,378 --> 01:04:01,297 They-- they-- they built the ramp 941 01:04:01,506 --> 01:04:03,132 - and part of the deal was-- - Oh. 942 01:04:03,341 --> 01:04:06,928 Them building the ramp was they can use it whenever. 943 01:04:07,136 --> 01:04:10,014 The landowners are in favor of additional border security. 944 01:04:11,182 --> 01:04:17,021 A physical wall does not accomplish border security in my opinion. 945 01:04:17,230 --> 01:04:20,316 We don't want the federal government taking our land, obviously. 946 01:04:20,525 --> 01:04:23,861 I think most of the landowners will fight it tooth and nail 947 01:04:24,070 --> 01:04:27,114 besides of the fact that you are taking 948 01:04:27,323 --> 01:04:31,911 very independently mind-- minded landowners 949 01:04:32,119 --> 01:04:33,246 and it's a land grab. 950 01:04:33,454 --> 01:04:35,014 They are taking their land away from 'em 951 01:04:35,164 --> 01:04:38,000 and they don't have the right to say no. 952 01:04:38,209 --> 01:04:41,170 Uh, and that's gonna leave a very poor taste in the mouths 953 01:04:41,379 --> 01:04:42,839 of a lot of people on this river. 954 01:04:43,047 --> 01:04:48,970 So basically, from within about 400 miles upriver 955 01:04:49,178 --> 01:04:52,181 of the Gulf of Mexico, the uh-- the communities 956 01:04:52,390 --> 01:04:55,893 on both sides of the border rely on the Rio Grande river 957 01:04:56,102 --> 01:05:00,106 for agricultural and residential use. 958 01:05:00,314 --> 01:05:01,314 No question. 959 01:05:05,653 --> 01:05:08,281 So you're saying it may not be a good idea 960 01:05:08,489 --> 01:05:11,534 to wall ourselves away from the only good water in the desert? 961 01:05:11,742 --> 01:05:13,262 That would be a pretty good assessment. 962 01:05:13,411 --> 01:05:15,037 Okay, good. 963 01:05:17,665 --> 01:05:22,545 There is a-- a labor pool here that is not being satisfied 964 01:05:22,753 --> 01:05:25,047 and can be satisfied by immigrants 965 01:05:25,256 --> 01:05:26,883 coming to this country, 966 01:05:27,091 --> 01:05:31,888 which has happened for 250 years. 967 01:05:32,096 --> 01:05:35,057 If that is happening, which I think is happening right now, 968 01:05:35,266 --> 01:05:38,019 then I see no reason why it shouldn't continue 969 01:05:38,227 --> 01:05:41,230 and I see no reason why those people need 970 01:05:41,439 --> 01:05:43,065 to be here under the radar. 971 01:05:43,274 --> 01:05:45,514 And maybe I'm not smart enough to understand the problem, 972 01:05:45,651 --> 01:05:47,361 but if there is a need for the labor, 973 01:05:47,570 --> 01:05:49,989 and they come over here and they are working 974 01:05:51,032 --> 01:05:54,160 and holding down a job, then why sh-- 975 01:05:54,368 --> 01:05:55,368 Why don't we want 'em? 976 01:05:58,706 --> 01:06:02,084 In the 1940s, as a result of World War II, 977 01:06:02,293 --> 01:06:05,421 we had a system called the Bracero Program 978 01:06:05,630 --> 01:06:09,091 where Mexican farm laborers were coming over, 979 01:06:09,300 --> 01:06:11,093 and they were working in American fields 980 01:06:11,302 --> 01:06:14,931 while uh, our US men were abroad fighting in Europe 981 01:06:15,139 --> 01:06:17,934 and our American women were in-- in factories. 982 01:06:18,684 --> 01:06:22,855 The fact is we still don't have enough seasonal domestic labor 983 01:06:23,064 --> 01:06:24,523 willing to do this kind of work. 984 01:06:24,732 --> 01:06:29,445 In 1965, the Bracero Program officially ends. 985 01:06:29,654 --> 01:06:31,530 But that doesn't mean that these patterns 986 01:06:31,739 --> 01:06:33,950 that were established, end. 987 01:06:34,158 --> 01:06:37,370 So the agricultural interest kept asking for the labor 988 01:06:37,578 --> 01:06:39,372 and the labor kept coming. 989 01:06:41,082 --> 01:06:44,001 This bill is the most comprehensive reform 990 01:06:44,210 --> 01:06:46,712 of our immigration law since 1952. 991 01:06:51,550 --> 01:06:54,512 Including employer sanctions, other measures 992 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,223 to increase enforcement of the immigration laws 993 01:06:57,431 --> 01:06:58,474 and legalization. 994 01:07:03,270 --> 01:07:06,273 What happened was that the key component 995 01:07:06,482 --> 01:07:09,151 of employer sanction was never put into place. 996 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:13,155 It was illegal, but everybody you know, wink, wink, nod, nod, 997 01:07:13,364 --> 01:07:14,490 this is going on. 998 01:07:16,117 --> 01:07:18,327 Fast-forward to the early 1990s, 999 01:07:18,536 --> 01:07:20,329 immigration becomes a flashpoint. 1000 01:07:20,538 --> 01:07:24,125 There is too much of it and we must do much more to stop it. 1001 01:07:24,333 --> 01:07:26,252 And at this point we see what we know 1002 01:07:26,460 --> 01:07:29,255 as the modern-day border infrastructure, 1003 01:07:32,091 --> 01:07:35,052 not just physically, but also in terms of personnel. 1004 01:07:36,429 --> 01:07:38,389 As a result it was harder for immigrants 1005 01:07:38,597 --> 01:07:39,682 to go back and forth. 1006 01:07:40,808 --> 01:07:43,102 And once they were there, they weren't going to leave, 1007 01:07:43,310 --> 01:07:44,687 because again, every year 1008 01:07:44,895 --> 01:07:46,772 the border got harder and harder to cross. 1009 01:07:49,483 --> 01:07:51,527 So now, we have this larger permanent 1010 01:07:51,736 --> 01:07:54,780 undocumented population in the United States. 1011 01:08:08,169 --> 01:08:11,255 This is the first wall we've seen since just outside of El Paso. 1012 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,259 The wall that's right there, 1013 01:08:15,468 --> 01:08:17,970 that was built under Secure Fence Act 1014 01:08:18,179 --> 01:08:20,139 during the Bush administration, so it's probably-- 1015 01:08:21,265 --> 01:08:23,309 probably 10 years old now. 1016 01:08:23,517 --> 01:08:26,062 And the wall that they are calling for, 1017 01:08:26,270 --> 01:08:27,730 that President Trump wants to build 1018 01:08:27,938 --> 01:08:32,234 is gonna be probably 10 feet higher than that. 1019 01:08:32,443 --> 01:08:35,279 Solid concrete, so you wouldn't be able to look through it. 1020 01:08:35,488 --> 01:08:38,115 And then also it'd have these massive flood lights 1021 01:08:38,324 --> 01:08:43,120 that look into the river and along. 1022 01:08:43,329 --> 01:08:45,247 And then they would clear out all the brush, 1023 01:08:45,456 --> 01:08:47,708 and all the vegetation, and trees. 1024 01:08:51,128 --> 01:08:52,588 One of the things that's unfortunate, 1025 01:08:52,797 --> 01:08:55,216 that we've noticed, this is Mexico on our right, 1026 01:08:55,424 --> 01:08:57,468 this is the US on our left, 1027 01:08:57,676 --> 01:09:00,721 and we have forfeited all this land 1028 01:09:00,930 --> 01:09:02,598 to become no-man's land, 1029 01:09:02,807 --> 01:09:05,518 which means that nobody from the US side 1030 01:09:05,726 --> 01:09:08,562 is enjoying this river right now except for us. 1031 01:09:08,771 --> 01:09:12,191 And all the Mexican side is fishing, throwing parties, 1032 01:09:12,399 --> 01:09:14,110 you can hear people playing soccer, 1033 01:09:14,318 --> 01:09:17,113 families are out walking around enjoying the river, 1034 01:09:17,321 --> 01:09:19,698 and it's obviously very much a part of life 1035 01:09:19,907 --> 01:09:22,493 in this section of the Rio Grande. 1036 01:09:22,701 --> 01:09:26,580 And how sad is that? Nobody from the US side 1037 01:09:26,789 --> 01:09:29,375 can enjoy this beautiful pristine river right now. 1038 01:09:29,583 --> 01:09:33,546 A wall completely deters any recreational activity 1039 01:09:33,754 --> 01:09:35,464 from the Rio in this stretch. 1040 01:09:42,429 --> 01:09:43,639 Get a little bit closer. 1041 01:09:43,848 --> 01:09:45,224 Okay. 1042 01:09:48,435 --> 01:09:50,646 Growing up an illegal immigrant, 1043 01:09:50,855 --> 01:09:52,857 every single day you live in fear. 1044 01:09:54,275 --> 01:09:57,111 You feel that your options are limited, 1045 01:09:57,319 --> 01:09:59,446 that there are so many things stacked against you 1046 01:09:59,655 --> 01:10:01,782 that you can never outgrow your environment. 1047 01:10:01,991 --> 01:10:05,161 And therefore, this situation that you're in 1048 01:10:05,369 --> 01:10:06,495 will always remain. 1049 01:10:08,789 --> 01:10:11,584 But because of our financial status, 1050 01:10:11,792 --> 01:10:13,544 not having a lot of money, 1051 01:10:13,752 --> 01:10:15,512 when my mom would tell us to go do something, 1052 01:10:15,546 --> 01:10:16,881 it was: "Get the hell outside". 1053 01:10:22,928 --> 01:10:25,264 Doesn't cost anything to go run around outside, 1054 01:10:25,472 --> 01:10:27,600 to go get lost in the woods, to climb a tree, 1055 01:10:27,808 --> 01:10:29,268 to go look for animals. 1056 01:10:33,606 --> 01:10:35,316 The natural world saved me. 1057 01:10:39,695 --> 01:10:42,656 So becoming a wildlife photographer 1058 01:10:42,865 --> 01:10:45,242 and working with National Geographic 1059 01:10:45,451 --> 01:10:47,286 was my goal in life. 1060 01:10:49,580 --> 01:10:51,832 So Nat Geo's Geoff Daniels here. Nat Geo, come on up. 1061 01:10:52,041 --> 01:10:55,336 To announce the Wild to Inspire-- 1062 01:10:55,544 --> 01:10:58,380 - Wild to Inspire winner. - There you go, guys, there you go. 1063 01:10:58,589 --> 01:11:02,843 But the winner for the 2nd annual Wild to Inspire competition 1064 01:11:03,052 --> 01:11:06,222 is Filipe DeAndrade! 1065 01:11:06,430 --> 01:11:08,474 Up! Filipe, come on up. 1066 01:11:10,017 --> 01:11:11,810 Come up, Filipe, come on, man. 1067 01:11:12,019 --> 01:11:14,605 Whether it be through photography, video, 1068 01:11:14,813 --> 01:11:16,482 everything that I do comes back 1069 01:11:16,690 --> 01:11:18,817 to making the world a better place for animals. 1070 01:11:20,527 --> 01:11:22,696 I have to thank my mom, because for everything-- 1071 01:11:22,905 --> 01:11:25,783 For everything that we've been through 1072 01:11:25,991 --> 01:11:28,577 as immigrants, abuse, coming over here, 1073 01:11:28,786 --> 01:11:30,788 struggle, every single thing. 1074 01:11:30,996 --> 01:11:33,791 You fought--- you fought for what you loved. 1075 01:11:40,381 --> 01:11:42,841 I'm so grateful that she brought us here, 1076 01:11:44,802 --> 01:11:46,178 and that I get to travel the world 1077 01:11:46,387 --> 01:11:47,888 and talk about what I love. 1078 01:11:49,682 --> 01:11:52,351 My mom is by far and large my greatest-- 1079 01:11:55,521 --> 01:11:58,023 my greatest example in life. 1080 01:11:59,608 --> 01:12:01,527 When she became a citizen, 1081 01:12:01,735 --> 01:12:03,362 I asked her: "What do you wanna do?" 1082 01:12:03,570 --> 01:12:05,781 and she said: "I wanna be a nurse at the VA." 1083 01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:10,911 I wanna take care of veterans who took care of us, 1084 01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:15,332 "and that is my contribution to the country that I am now a citizen in." 1085 01:12:15,541 --> 01:12:17,626 And that makes me so damn proud. 1086 01:12:34,977 --> 01:12:36,437 - There it is. - Wow! 1087 01:12:45,029 --> 01:12:46,071 Wow! 1088 01:12:47,906 --> 01:12:49,575 There are so many. 1089 01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:53,370 - What's up, Stevie? - How are you? 1090 01:12:53,579 --> 01:12:54,997 Good, man! 1091 01:12:55,205 --> 01:12:56,565 - Nice to meet you. - Stevie Sauer. 1092 01:12:56,665 --> 01:12:57,916 Yeah, Ben Masters. 1093 01:13:00,627 --> 01:13:03,464 We hadn't like gotten to talk to anybody on the camera. 1094 01:13:03,672 --> 01:13:05,341 - Alright. - Alright, can you do that? 1095 01:13:05,549 --> 01:13:07,468 So the only reason I can do that is 'cause I'm-- 1096 01:13:07,676 --> 01:13:10,596 Uh, I told you uh, I'm with the Union 1097 01:13:10,804 --> 01:13:14,016 of Del Rio Sector. So on behalf of the Union, I'm talkin' to you. 1098 01:13:14,224 --> 01:13:16,393 I've been in Border Patrol for nine and a half years. 1099 01:13:17,144 --> 01:13:20,689 I am a Executive Vice President for Del Rio Sector Union. 1100 01:13:21,690 --> 01:13:23,942 If we put a wall up from sea to shining sea, 1101 01:13:24,151 --> 01:13:25,694 people are still gonna cross it. 1102 01:13:25,903 --> 01:13:27,103 I've been detailed to Nogales, 1103 01:13:27,237 --> 01:13:29,698 and there's a wall through downtown Nogales, 1104 01:13:29,907 --> 01:13:32,743 and people cross it, go over it, go through it. 1105 01:13:32,951 --> 01:13:35,579 There's more damage that's done to a wall you know, 1106 01:13:35,788 --> 01:13:38,058 with just the will power. People just trying to get across. 1107 01:13:38,082 --> 01:13:42,294 Do you think it's something that if it doesn't happen 1108 01:13:42,503 --> 01:13:45,631 in the next three years, will continue 1109 01:13:45,839 --> 01:13:48,717 to be raised as a potential solution? 1110 01:13:48,926 --> 01:13:51,011 The wall's always gonna be a topic of discussion. 1111 01:13:51,220 --> 01:13:52,805 I think it's always gonna be continued 1112 01:13:53,013 --> 01:13:55,808 to be raised as a deterrent of guys crossing. 1113 01:13:56,016 --> 01:13:59,478 They're not a solution to the immigration problems, 1114 01:14:00,437 --> 01:14:02,856 because there is-- there is more than just a wall to fix it. 1115 01:14:03,065 --> 01:14:05,567 If-- if you've got ants coming inside your house, 1116 01:14:05,776 --> 01:14:06,920 we've already got walls, you know. 1117 01:14:06,944 --> 01:14:08,404 They're finding a way to get in. 1118 01:14:08,612 --> 01:14:10,364 So we've got to-- we've got to find out 1119 01:14:10,572 --> 01:14:11,949 the solution and what that is. 1120 01:14:12,157 --> 01:14:14,052 Do you fix it with technology? Do you fix it with more-- 1121 01:14:14,076 --> 01:14:14,827 more boots on the ground? 1122 01:14:15,035 --> 01:14:16,370 Do you-- 1123 01:14:16,578 --> 01:14:18,038 In your opinion w-- what-- what's-- 1124 01:14:18,247 --> 01:14:20,833 what's the solution with-- with response time? 1125 01:14:21,041 --> 01:14:22,801 Uh, you can have all the technology you need, 1126 01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,796 but if you don't have anybody to put handcuffs on anybody 1127 01:14:26,004 --> 01:14:28,124 or to question them as far as the alien, there isn't-- 1128 01:14:29,216 --> 01:14:31,760 The technology is great, because we detected 'em, 1129 01:14:31,969 --> 01:14:34,430 but we didn't have anybody to arrest 'em. 1130 01:14:34,638 --> 01:14:38,600 Have you noticed a drop-off or an increase in people 1131 01:14:38,809 --> 01:14:40,018 coming over to the US? 1132 01:14:40,227 --> 01:14:42,938 The numbers are down, have decreased. Yeah. 1133 01:14:43,147 --> 01:14:44,427 Significantly or you know like-- 1134 01:14:44,606 --> 01:14:45,691 - Significantly. - Really? 1135 01:15:33,822 --> 01:15:35,407 Just had a little spin out. 1136 01:15:35,616 --> 01:15:36,656 They're showin' off there. 1137 01:15:37,242 --> 01:15:38,242 They definitely... 1138 01:15:39,661 --> 01:15:41,455 made themselves known. 1139 01:15:41,663 --> 01:15:45,000 Absolutely, you can hear them from a mile away. 1140 01:15:48,045 --> 01:15:49,505 Oh my gosh, 1141 01:15:49,713 --> 01:15:50,923 is that a catfish? 1142 01:15:51,131 --> 01:15:52,211 That's probably like a 40-- 1143 01:15:52,382 --> 01:15:54,176 oh my gosh, both of those! 1144 01:15:55,260 --> 01:15:56,887 Hello! How much do they weigh? 1145 01:15:57,930 --> 01:15:59,097 Eight each! 1146 01:16:00,891 --> 01:16:02,392 Wow! The big one! 1147 01:16:02,601 --> 01:16:03,685 How long have you been here? 1148 01:16:04,937 --> 01:16:06,063 Just a day! 1149 01:16:06,271 --> 01:16:07,689 Just a day fishing for those? 1150 01:16:09,024 --> 01:16:12,402 We are bad fishermen. 1151 01:16:16,156 --> 01:16:17,156 Wow! 1152 01:16:19,076 --> 01:16:20,702 This is our work. 1153 01:16:21,787 --> 01:16:24,206 We bring them to the Piedras Negras fish markets. 1154 01:16:24,998 --> 01:16:27,209 Do you want to eat... 1155 01:16:27,417 --> 01:16:29,127 "fish of the cat"? 1156 01:16:31,171 --> 01:16:32,214 Is that catfish? 1157 01:16:32,422 --> 01:16:33,422 It's about right. 1158 01:16:33,715 --> 01:16:37,719 Is it a kind that you only have here? 1159 01:16:38,512 --> 01:16:40,847 The whole river. 1160 01:16:41,056 --> 01:16:42,975 But we don't go fishing over there. 1161 01:16:43,934 --> 01:16:48,230 If they see us over there they'll take us because they think we're wetbacks. 1162 01:16:48,438 --> 01:16:52,943 And you as Mexicans, what do you and your friends think of the wall? 1163 01:16:54,069 --> 01:16:55,946 They'll just fly over it like Superman. 1164 01:16:59,366 --> 01:17:01,094 And have you seen a lot of people crossing here? 1165 01:17:01,118 --> 01:17:02,703 Yes, tons. 1166 01:17:02,911 --> 01:17:04,162 With drugs. 1167 01:17:06,665 --> 01:17:09,126 But the demand for drugs is over there in the US, eh? 1168 01:17:10,002 --> 01:17:11,169 They're not going to stop. 1169 01:17:12,546 --> 01:17:15,382 Be very careful when you get down near Guerrero. 1170 01:17:15,591 --> 01:17:16,776 Yeah, they were telling us that. 1171 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,260 How is it around here? Calm? 1172 01:17:18,468 --> 01:17:21,096 (It's calm here - but the Zeta's cartel) are down there. 1173 01:17:21,305 --> 01:17:22,806 Are they well armed? 1174 01:17:23,015 --> 01:17:24,015 Yes. 1175 01:17:27,644 --> 01:17:30,022 The narcotraficantes in Northern Mexico 1176 01:17:30,230 --> 01:17:33,775 are making roughly-- and this is a conservative number, 1177 01:17:33,984 --> 01:17:38,071 $50 billion. That's almost the equivalent 1178 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,867 of the entire budget for the Intelligence Community 1179 01:17:42,075 --> 01:17:43,355 of the United States of America. 1180 01:17:45,829 --> 01:17:50,083 To make $50 billion, you're not bringing it in 1181 01:17:50,292 --> 01:17:51,877 you know, in a backpack alone. 1182 01:17:52,085 --> 01:17:54,963 You're bringing it in in significant weights 1183 01:17:55,172 --> 01:17:57,883 and that's happening through um, our ports of entry. 1184 01:18:00,802 --> 01:18:03,972 All of this is connected, all of this is correlated. 1185 01:18:04,181 --> 01:18:06,808 If-- if you look at the billions of dollars that we spend 1186 01:18:07,017 --> 01:18:10,062 on consuming illegal drugs in this country, 1187 01:18:11,021 --> 01:18:14,650 we can see the connection between our use of illegal drugs 1188 01:18:14,858 --> 01:18:18,236 uh, the c-- the cartels' bottom line, 1189 01:18:18,445 --> 01:18:20,656 the resources that they can bring to bear 1190 01:18:20,864 --> 01:18:23,575 on hollowing out the civil institutions, 1191 01:18:23,784 --> 01:18:26,662 whether that's the courts, whether that's the-- the press, 1192 01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:28,872 whether that's the-- the police force, 1193 01:18:29,081 --> 01:18:31,166 whether that's their-- their politics. 1194 01:18:32,125 --> 01:18:34,336 Destabilizing that country to such a degree 1195 01:18:34,544 --> 01:18:36,922 that it's hard to argue with somebody 1196 01:18:37,130 --> 01:18:39,341 who would seek to leave it to find a better life 1197 01:18:39,549 --> 01:18:42,719 somewhere else, ironically here in America, 1198 01:18:42,928 --> 01:18:45,347 the country that is in part producing um, 1199 01:18:45,555 --> 01:18:47,808 some of the problems with the consumption of those drugs, 1200 01:18:48,016 --> 01:18:50,727 the flow of cash and arms back into Mexico. 1201 01:18:59,903 --> 01:19:04,324 So against everybody's advice, we are paddling into the night, 1202 01:19:06,910 --> 01:19:08,662 which I'm not too comfortable about 1203 01:19:08,870 --> 01:19:14,668 just because this is a fairly high drug traffic corridor 1204 01:19:14,876 --> 01:19:16,128 of US-Mexico border. 1205 01:19:18,338 --> 01:19:21,883 But we're trying to get to a location 1206 01:19:22,092 --> 01:19:23,802 where we have permission to stay at 1207 01:19:25,011 --> 01:19:26,221 and uh... 1208 01:19:28,849 --> 01:19:30,434 I don't know where everybody else is. 1209 01:19:36,773 --> 01:19:38,024 Like I don't know if they-- 1210 01:19:38,233 --> 01:19:40,902 I don't know if they took a different 1211 01:19:41,111 --> 01:19:43,363 channel of the river, 1212 01:19:43,572 --> 01:19:45,073 if they're in front of me 1213 01:19:46,199 --> 01:19:47,492 or if they're behind me. 1214 01:19:48,493 --> 01:19:50,162 It's kind of a bad time to... 1215 01:19:51,371 --> 01:19:52,748 ...get separated. 1216 01:20:09,139 --> 01:20:13,727 - Hey, Heather. - - So, that's, that's, so the reason why we called you 1217 01:20:13,935 --> 01:20:16,188 there are some concerns about this. One, it's dark, 1218 01:20:16,396 --> 01:20:18,023 do we still cross at the crossing? 1219 01:20:21,234 --> 01:20:22,903 I think there's people over on that bank. 1220 01:20:24,154 --> 01:20:26,074 It looked like they were carrying bags and stuff. 1221 01:20:26,198 --> 01:20:27,741 Yeah, when we-- when we looked down, 1222 01:20:27,949 --> 01:20:30,243 we saw-- we saw groups of people. 1223 01:20:30,452 --> 01:20:32,305 - They were even boats. - - 'Cause we thought it was-- 1224 01:20:32,329 --> 01:20:34,169 You thought it was Ben. I was about to yell out 1225 01:20:34,331 --> 01:20:36,601 and Jay said: "Hold on, don't say anything." And he was right. 1226 01:20:36,625 --> 01:20:39,753 It was people over there, definitely not Ben. 1227 01:20:39,961 --> 01:20:44,925 Um, but they were definitely throwing bags of stuff back. 1228 01:20:45,133 --> 01:20:49,888 Border Patrol and everybody that lives on the river said: "Don't do the river at night" 1229 01:20:50,096 --> 01:20:51,449 uh, because that's when most people 1230 01:20:51,473 --> 01:20:53,183 - "are gonna be crossing." - Like I think 1231 01:20:53,391 --> 01:20:55,268 makin' ourselves known being here 1232 01:20:55,477 --> 01:20:56,837 - is probably a good thing. - Yeah. 1233 01:20:56,937 --> 01:20:57,997 I don't think approaching 'em 1234 01:20:58,021 --> 01:20:59,147 is a great idea either. 1235 01:20:59,356 --> 01:21:00,148 But uh, you don't wanna 1236 01:21:00,357 --> 01:21:01,441 like sneak up on them 1237 01:21:01,650 --> 01:21:03,151 - by any means. - I know. 1238 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,028 That's when you run into a bad situation. 1239 01:21:05,237 --> 01:21:07,823 Either drug smugglers or people trying to cross, 1240 01:21:08,031 --> 01:21:09,191 either way you don't wanna... 1241 01:21:10,951 --> 01:21:13,671 be in the middle of that and that's exactly where we're at right now. 1242 01:21:15,163 --> 01:21:18,291 So you guys are definitely ahead of us. 1243 01:21:18,500 --> 01:21:20,293 - Okay. - Uh, and... 1244 01:21:21,545 --> 01:21:25,215 I'm uh-- we're gonna start going forward towards you 1245 01:21:25,423 --> 01:21:26,800 with our lights on. 1246 01:21:27,008 --> 01:21:28,176 Alright, we're gonna stay put 1247 01:21:28,385 --> 01:21:30,345 and then we'll decide as a group. 1248 01:21:30,554 --> 01:21:32,389 We'll have our lights on here as well. 1249 01:21:32,597 --> 01:21:34,349 Uh, you just be careful. 1250 01:21:34,558 --> 01:21:35,934 So there is their lights. 1251 01:21:36,142 --> 01:21:37,462 At least I hope it's their lights. 1252 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:39,980 Looks good. 1253 01:21:45,652 --> 01:21:48,238 - So we should get out of here. - Yeah, we should. 1254 01:21:48,446 --> 01:21:50,240 - Like as soon as possible. - Yeah. 1255 01:21:50,448 --> 01:21:51,717 And then getting down and camping 1256 01:21:51,741 --> 01:21:53,535 as soon as we see a camp spot. 1257 01:21:53,743 --> 01:21:56,872 Okay. Do you-- We were just discussing briefly 1258 01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:00,542 like should we like tell Stevie or Border Patrol 1259 01:22:00,750 --> 01:22:02,878 or just-- just go? 1260 01:22:03,086 --> 01:22:05,088 Yeah, we should call Stevie and let him know. 1261 01:22:05,297 --> 01:22:07,316 - Okay, yeah. - Like if something happens to us then-- 1262 01:22:07,340 --> 01:22:08,550 Yeah, yeah. No, I-- 1263 01:22:08,758 --> 01:22:10,218 Like-- 1264 01:22:10,427 --> 01:22:11,427 Deal. 1265 01:22:12,971 --> 01:22:15,181 You got the number? You want this? 1266 01:22:15,390 --> 01:22:17,475 - Here. - It's like we stopped. 1267 01:22:17,684 --> 01:22:20,228 If we went around this right here, we would have seen people. 1268 01:22:20,437 --> 01:22:22,477 I don't like this at all. And they were right there? 1269 01:22:22,606 --> 01:22:24,709 - Yeah, they were right there. - And you all just stopped right here? 1270 01:22:24,733 --> 01:22:26,985 - No, I mean-- - Let's get the fuck out of here, man. 1271 01:22:27,193 --> 01:22:28,713 Didn't know if you guys were behind us. 1272 01:22:33,658 --> 01:22:36,077 - This-- this is a-- - Alright. 1273 01:22:36,286 --> 01:22:37,370 - Good timing. - Yeah. 1274 01:22:41,249 --> 01:22:45,170 I have to admit I jumped to immediate bad conclusion. 1275 01:22:45,378 --> 01:22:47,589 You guys said: "backpacks and people crossing", 1276 01:22:47,797 --> 01:22:51,384 the first thing that came to my head was running drugs, 1277 01:22:51,593 --> 01:22:53,678 like the very first thing that popped into my head. 1278 01:22:55,055 --> 01:22:56,932 And they-- they might have been, but, uh... 1279 01:22:57,140 --> 01:22:58,140 Yeah. 1280 01:22:58,308 --> 01:22:59,308 But we don't know that. 1281 01:23:00,352 --> 01:23:02,020 Well, it's such a conundrum, because 1282 01:23:03,313 --> 01:23:06,358 like the people that are crossing, you know, 1283 01:23:08,151 --> 01:23:11,571 under different circumstances that could have been you. 1284 01:23:11,780 --> 01:23:13,198 Or you. 1285 01:23:15,533 --> 01:23:18,119 Yeah. And that is the predicament. Like I was sitting there 1286 01:23:18,328 --> 01:23:21,915 and I was like if those are families or people 1287 01:23:22,123 --> 01:23:24,644 who are trying to make a better life for themselves, I don't wanna call. 1288 01:23:24,668 --> 01:23:26,962 But if those are drug smugglers, I do wanna call. 1289 01:23:31,091 --> 01:23:32,467 I talked to my parents about it 1290 01:23:33,593 --> 01:23:35,073 and told them I came upon some people, 1291 01:23:35,261 --> 01:23:36,822 and well, they asked me you know: "what--" 1292 01:23:36,846 --> 01:23:38,606 What were they wearing, what were they doing, 1293 01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,141 "this or that" and-- 1294 01:23:40,350 --> 01:23:42,394 And I kinda described the situation and they-- 1295 01:23:42,602 --> 01:23:44,402 And they asked us what we did, and I was like: 1296 01:23:44,521 --> 01:23:46,064 "Well, we-- we called Border Patrol." 1297 01:23:47,023 --> 01:23:52,362 And they-- they understood, they got it, 1298 01:23:53,613 --> 01:23:56,074 and they said, : "Oh man, poor people." 1299 01:23:56,282 --> 01:23:57,492 Um. 1300 01:24:03,456 --> 01:24:06,251 They said that was them 30 years ago. 1301 01:24:19,431 --> 01:24:22,142 In Guatemala, they-- they were making three bucks a day. 1302 01:24:22,350 --> 01:24:23,661 They were living in a little room, 1303 01:24:23,685 --> 01:24:26,479 them and my older brother, my dad, he had 1304 01:24:26,688 --> 01:24:33,278 family members and friends who had either been, you know, harassed, mugged or killed. 1305 01:24:36,489 --> 01:24:37,532 I mean it was genocide. 1306 01:24:41,286 --> 01:24:45,957 My mom, she was very willing to do whatever she had to do 1307 01:24:46,166 --> 01:24:47,166 to get over here. 1308 01:24:48,334 --> 01:24:50,378 She tried to come over a couple of times. 1309 01:24:53,214 --> 01:24:54,799 Someone had snitched on her. 1310 01:24:56,509 --> 01:25:00,555 Mom and my older brother were locked up in Mexico 1311 01:25:00,764 --> 01:25:03,391 when they got caught by immigration there in Mexico. 1312 01:25:06,519 --> 01:25:10,398 Mom would ask to work in jail so she-- 1313 01:25:10,607 --> 01:25:12,984 So she could get money and food to feed my brother 1314 01:25:13,193 --> 01:25:14,193 while they're in jail. 1315 01:25:17,197 --> 01:25:20,158 I don't wanna discredit the-- the crossing of the river, it is significant. 1316 01:25:20,867 --> 01:25:25,705 But my parents had-- My, my family felt that fear the entire time. 1317 01:25:25,914 --> 01:25:27,554 And it was-- and they still thought they-- 1318 01:25:27,624 --> 01:25:29,417 that fear years after crossing. 1319 01:25:41,763 --> 01:25:45,350 When I was first born, it was probably uh, 15 of us 1320 01:25:45,558 --> 01:25:46,768 in one house. 1321 01:25:46,976 --> 01:25:47,976 It was tough. 1322 01:25:50,230 --> 01:25:52,524 My parents, they heard this radio announcement 1323 01:25:52,732 --> 01:25:56,528 about, um people helping illegal immigrants 1324 01:25:56,736 --> 01:25:57,736 get their residency, 1325 01:25:57,904 --> 01:25:59,697 but they have to report themselves 1326 01:25:59,906 --> 01:26:02,242 and state that they're there illegally. 1327 01:26:08,790 --> 01:26:11,459 My mom, she began crying immediately 1328 01:26:11,668 --> 01:26:14,295 and they're like: "We're-- we need to deport you now." 1329 01:26:35,900 --> 01:26:38,653 In my parents' eyes, 1330 01:26:38,862 --> 01:26:40,280 the American dream were 1331 01:26:40,488 --> 01:26:41,781 to send three kids to college 1332 01:26:43,783 --> 01:26:47,579 and have enough to make a living and-- and be satisfied, 1333 01:26:49,289 --> 01:26:50,748 and they've exceeded that. 1334 01:26:54,919 --> 01:26:57,547 I am no longer embarrassed of who I am, where I come from. 1335 01:26:59,299 --> 01:27:01,134 I'm very proud of my parents. 1336 01:27:01,342 --> 01:27:02,342 Very proud. 1337 01:27:03,761 --> 01:27:06,848 And hopefully uh, one day I can pay 'em back. 1338 01:27:19,652 --> 01:27:21,112 Today is a big day. 1339 01:27:21,321 --> 01:27:25,116 We are switching from canoes to bicycles, 1340 01:27:25,325 --> 01:27:28,578 because we're now in an area where there is a wall, 1341 01:27:28,786 --> 01:27:31,623 but the wall is so far away from the river 1342 01:27:31,831 --> 01:27:34,542 that you can't even see it from the river in some spots. 1343 01:27:34,751 --> 01:27:35,877 Let's ride. 1344 01:27:36,085 --> 01:27:37,295 Let's ride. 1345 01:27:39,505 --> 01:27:44,427 Ben Masters is a determined, dedicated, 1346 01:27:45,637 --> 01:27:47,847 uncoordinated son of a gun. 1347 01:27:48,056 --> 01:27:50,850 He is so great for so many reasons, 1348 01:27:51,059 --> 01:27:52,518 but coordination is not one of them. 1349 01:27:53,811 --> 01:27:55,563 And to see him on the bicycle, 1350 01:27:55,772 --> 01:27:57,774 after paddling and being on a horseback, 1351 01:27:57,982 --> 01:28:02,362 is uh, one of my greatest joys in life now. 1352 01:28:02,570 --> 01:28:04,405 He is... 1353 01:28:04,614 --> 01:28:06,616 so bad on a bicycle. 1354 01:28:07,575 --> 01:28:08,868 But dang it, he's doin' it. 1355 01:28:11,663 --> 01:28:14,916 The Lower Rio Grande Valley has the most illegal crossings 1356 01:28:15,124 --> 01:28:17,585 and drug traffic along the US-Mexico border. 1357 01:28:21,464 --> 01:28:23,549 It already has some existing border wall 1358 01:28:23,758 --> 01:28:26,302 and is priority for future wall construction. 1359 01:28:28,596 --> 01:28:30,807 The Rio Grande here twists and turns, 1360 01:28:31,015 --> 01:28:33,893 but the border wall will be built on straight lines, 1361 01:28:34,102 --> 01:28:36,437 on levees and irrigation canals, 1362 01:28:36,646 --> 01:28:38,314 sometimes miles from the border. 1363 01:28:39,774 --> 01:28:42,235 Effectively stranding American land 1364 01:28:42,443 --> 01:28:43,903 between the river and the wall. 1365 01:28:45,697 --> 01:28:48,825 - Are you all doing dry land or uh, irrigation? - All irrigated. 1366 01:28:49,033 --> 01:28:52,912 All-- all irrigated, all the water coming out of the Rio Grande River. 1367 01:28:53,121 --> 01:28:56,666 Our river pumps are on the banks of the Rio Grande river. 1368 01:28:56,874 --> 01:28:59,335 We will have to go through the wall, 1369 01:28:59,544 --> 01:29:00,837 to get to our pumps, 1370 01:29:01,045 --> 01:29:04,465 which is the lifeblood of the irrigated farms. 1371 01:29:04,674 --> 01:29:08,761 The concern is we're giving up a tremendous amount of-- of 1372 01:29:09,721 --> 01:29:12,682 an area that-- that is some of the most 1373 01:29:12,890 --> 01:29:15,310 productive farmland in the world. 1374 01:29:15,518 --> 01:29:17,812 Uh, alluvial soils from the Rio Grande river 1375 01:29:18,021 --> 01:29:20,982 with a 365-day growing period. 1376 01:29:21,190 --> 01:29:24,777 So, there's a lot of impact south 1377 01:29:24,986 --> 01:29:27,322 of where they're going to place the wall. 1378 01:29:27,530 --> 01:29:33,494 Where is the border? Is the border on the river, or is the border at the wall? 1379 01:29:34,620 --> 01:29:37,040 Because there's three quarters of a mile difference. 1380 01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:42,253 I don't want it to be just a one-time photo op, 1381 01:29:42,462 --> 01:29:45,506 and then my uh, kids, and grandkids, 1382 01:29:45,715 --> 01:29:47,717 and future generations have to live 1383 01:29:47,925 --> 01:29:50,261 with their farm being cut in half. 1384 01:29:50,470 --> 01:29:53,681 Once the wall goes up, that's it. 1385 01:29:53,890 --> 01:29:56,559 You can't redo it, you can't undo it. 1386 01:29:56,768 --> 01:29:59,729 And I think it's easy for people in Washington DC 1387 01:29:59,937 --> 01:30:03,691 to make decisions without having some input 1388 01:30:03,900 --> 01:30:05,943 from the people who actually live here. 1389 01:30:06,152 --> 01:30:07,862 There's just something 1390 01:30:08,071 --> 01:30:09,697 kind of un-American about it to me, 1391 01:30:09,906 --> 01:30:12,116 and it's all part of the United States. 1392 01:30:14,494 --> 01:30:16,496 When they talk about Homeland Security, 1393 01:30:16,704 --> 01:30:17,872 we're part of the Homeland. 1394 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:23,294 The wall will be on this side of the river road-- 1395 01:30:23,503 --> 01:30:25,046 of the levee road. 1396 01:30:25,254 --> 01:30:27,548 Uh, and will be a vertical wall 1397 01:30:27,757 --> 01:30:32,428 where they will peel off this side of the-- of the levee 1398 01:30:32,637 --> 01:30:35,556 and build a vertical concrete wall. 1399 01:30:35,765 --> 01:30:37,892 For us, it's 350 acres, 1400 01:30:38,101 --> 01:30:42,730 for Steve's family, it's 500 acres, 1401 01:30:42,939 --> 01:30:45,483 for Santana, it's 2,000 acres. 1402 01:30:45,691 --> 01:30:48,069 So just within the stretch of a couple of miles, 1403 01:30:48,277 --> 01:30:51,572 you've got almost 3,000 acres of land 1404 01:30:51,781 --> 01:30:54,075 that is going to be ceded to Mexico 1405 01:30:54,283 --> 01:30:57,787 um, because it's gonna be south of the wall. 1406 01:30:57,995 --> 01:31:00,706 We're not gonna control the area south of the wall anymore. 1407 01:31:36,868 --> 01:31:39,495 It's kind of crazy down here, 1408 01:31:39,704 --> 01:31:44,083 getting estimates of the number of individuals, 1409 01:31:45,251 --> 01:31:48,629 'cause you have these huge flocks flying over 1410 01:31:48,838 --> 01:31:51,966 and swarms of swallows. 1411 01:31:53,176 --> 01:31:57,763 Trying to estimate how many individuals you're seeing 1412 01:31:57,972 --> 01:31:58,972 is crazy. 1413 01:32:01,934 --> 01:32:06,689 In my bird surveys along the entire Rio Grande, 1414 01:32:08,107 --> 01:32:11,903 I detected over 150 species. 1415 01:32:13,779 --> 01:32:16,073 There's such a huge diversity. 1416 01:32:19,660 --> 01:32:21,996 The bird community in the Rio Grande Valley 1417 01:32:22,205 --> 01:32:23,748 is like completely different. 1418 01:32:25,166 --> 01:32:26,792 Many of these are species 1419 01:32:27,001 --> 01:32:30,004 that you wouldn't see anywhere else in the US. 1420 01:32:32,673 --> 01:32:35,176 It's the biggest birding destination 1421 01:32:35,384 --> 01:32:36,384 in the country. 1422 01:32:38,137 --> 01:32:39,889 If you just woke up here, 1423 01:32:41,182 --> 01:32:42,600 just listen to it, 1424 01:32:43,601 --> 01:32:46,521 you would think you're in the tropics. 1425 01:32:46,729 --> 01:32:48,898 That's a golden-fronted calling. 1426 01:32:51,984 --> 01:32:53,819 The Rio Grande Valley is 1427 01:32:54,028 --> 01:32:56,989 one of the most critical habitats 1428 01:32:57,198 --> 01:33:01,619 for birds, butterflies, and bats in North America. 1429 01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:07,583 This subtropical habitat that is really nowhere else 1430 01:33:07,792 --> 01:33:09,252 in the United States. 1431 01:33:12,838 --> 01:33:16,926 The Rio Grande Valley is along different migratory routes 1432 01:33:17,134 --> 01:33:19,679 for birds, butterflies and bats. 1433 01:33:21,055 --> 01:33:23,724 There's this huge collaboration 1434 01:33:23,933 --> 01:33:27,061 between public and private organizations, 1435 01:33:27,270 --> 01:33:32,024 and they've linked this string of pearls, 1436 01:33:32,233 --> 01:33:35,903 this native habitat along the Rio Grande 1437 01:33:36,112 --> 01:33:39,865 to preserve this area for native species. 1438 01:33:43,369 --> 01:33:47,498 The border wall would be built along the levee 1439 01:33:47,707 --> 01:33:49,625 with an enforcement zone. 1440 01:33:51,377 --> 01:33:55,006 In this region, where there's only 5% 1441 01:33:55,214 --> 01:33:57,967 of remaining native habitat, 1442 01:33:58,175 --> 01:34:01,637 this enforcement zone would be bulldozing 1443 01:34:01,846 --> 01:34:05,308 a-- a sizable portion of what's left. 1444 01:34:07,018 --> 01:34:09,770 In a flood situation 1445 01:34:09,979 --> 01:34:13,190 terrestrial animals could get caught up in floodwaters. 1446 01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:18,529 Having the border wall, species like the Texas tortoise 1447 01:34:18,738 --> 01:34:22,533 and ocelots could die in these rising flood waters, 1448 01:34:22,742 --> 01:34:25,369 because there wouldn't be any way for them to escape. 1449 01:34:29,832 --> 01:34:32,126 This could become a death trap. 1450 01:34:34,337 --> 01:34:36,756 It occurred to me along the journey 1451 01:34:36,964 --> 01:34:40,092 that in-- in some of these areas, 1452 01:34:40,301 --> 01:34:43,929 there may have never been a formal bird survey 1453 01:34:44,138 --> 01:34:48,976 and there may never be another one done 1454 01:34:49,185 --> 01:34:51,812 before it's changed forever. 1455 01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:59,862 I felt honored and-- to see the area before that, 1456 01:35:00,946 --> 01:35:05,910 but also saddened by the fact that it may soon change. 1457 01:35:12,833 --> 01:35:15,252 I think when people use that term "build a wall", 1458 01:35:15,461 --> 01:35:20,132 there are some that do believe it needs to be a structure. 1459 01:35:20,341 --> 01:35:24,595 Um, I do believe there's others that wanna see what-- 1460 01:35:24,804 --> 01:35:27,682 what I would term "operational control of our border". 1461 01:35:27,890 --> 01:35:30,010 We should be able to know what's coming back and forth 1462 01:35:30,059 --> 01:35:31,059 across our border. 1463 01:35:31,102 --> 01:35:33,229 Nobody disagrees with that. 1464 01:35:33,437 --> 01:35:35,690 And since our technology is so cheap now, 1465 01:35:35,898 --> 01:35:37,650 it's basically disposable. 1466 01:35:37,858 --> 01:35:39,538 And that technology can tell the difference 1467 01:35:39,568 --> 01:35:43,114 between a jackrabbit and a person coming across the border. 1468 01:35:43,322 --> 01:35:45,241 And if that sensor gets triggered, 1469 01:35:45,449 --> 01:35:48,169 you can deploy men and women. The Border Patrol will do the one thing 1470 01:35:48,244 --> 01:35:50,621 that only they can do, interdiction, stopping this. 1471 01:35:50,830 --> 01:35:52,039 We can do that today 1472 01:35:52,248 --> 01:35:55,084 and that is not the kind of technology 1473 01:35:55,292 --> 01:35:58,337 that we are giving our men and women in Border Patrol 1474 01:35:58,546 --> 01:36:00,881 to do their job about keeping us safe 1475 01:36:01,090 --> 01:36:02,383 and-- and securing our border. 1476 01:36:02,591 --> 01:36:04,677 And again, it's a fraction of the cost 1477 01:36:04,885 --> 01:36:07,221 of uh, building a-- a concrete structure 1478 01:36:07,430 --> 01:36:10,266 that you can go over or-- or dig under. 1479 01:36:11,350 --> 01:36:13,853 For me, the-- the answer is not gonna be walls 1480 01:36:14,061 --> 01:36:15,288 or fences or physical barriers, 1481 01:36:15,312 --> 01:36:17,398 it is gonna be ensuring 1482 01:36:17,606 --> 01:36:20,151 that our immigration laws match our reality, 1483 01:36:20,359 --> 01:36:23,279 uh, what our true needs are in this country, 1484 01:36:23,487 --> 01:36:24,905 what our values are, 1485 01:36:25,114 --> 01:36:28,784 and, um, do so in keeping with the best traditions 1486 01:36:28,993 --> 01:36:30,119 of Texas and this country. 1487 01:36:30,327 --> 01:36:31,829 Bipartisanship has become 1488 01:36:32,037 --> 01:36:34,165 a rare sight in Washington, but on Tuesday, 1489 01:36:34,373 --> 01:36:37,251 Mother Nature brought two Texas lawmakers together. 1490 01:36:37,460 --> 01:36:40,755 Their flights back to DC were cancelled, because of the snow. 1491 01:36:40,963 --> 01:36:43,299 So representatives Will Hurd and Beto O'Rourke 1492 01:36:43,507 --> 01:36:46,343 decided to take to the road to get back to work 1493 01:36:46,552 --> 01:36:49,722 and talked policy and personal matters along the way. 1494 01:36:49,930 --> 01:36:53,350 And what I have found is that working with Republicans 1495 01:36:53,559 --> 01:36:56,771 um, being able to not allow the perfect 1496 01:36:56,979 --> 01:36:58,272 to become the enemy of the good 1497 01:36:58,481 --> 01:37:03,194 um, and uh, just focus on making things better 1498 01:37:03,402 --> 01:37:04,945 um, you can make some progress. 1499 01:37:05,154 --> 01:37:08,324 And we can also disagree without being disagreeable. 1500 01:37:08,532 --> 01:37:11,952 The competition of ideas is what has made this country greatest, 1501 01:37:12,161 --> 01:37:14,789 what's made this experiment called "America" work. 1502 01:37:14,997 --> 01:37:18,417 And way more unites us than divides us. 1503 01:37:18,626 --> 01:37:20,753 Uh, then we can get a bigger-- a bigger car next time 1504 01:37:20,961 --> 01:37:22,063 and bring a few more people. 1505 01:37:22,087 --> 01:37:24,423 The rhetoric around all of this 1506 01:37:24,632 --> 01:37:29,470 that is uh, something that um, we can't let continue to happen. 1507 01:37:29,678 --> 01:37:32,723 When people in Mexico hear our president denigrate 1508 01:37:32,932 --> 01:37:35,434 that country, vilify Mexicans, 1509 01:37:35,643 --> 01:37:38,979 refer to Mexican immigrants as rapists and criminals, 1510 01:37:39,188 --> 01:37:41,315 promise to build a 2,000-mile wall 1511 01:37:41,524 --> 01:37:43,150 that will cost $30 billion 1512 01:37:43,359 --> 01:37:46,111 and say that Mexico is gonna have to pay for it 1513 01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,448 um, Mexicans remind themselves that they have 1514 01:37:49,657 --> 01:37:52,076 other potential partners around the globe. 1515 01:37:57,957 --> 01:38:00,251 They are deepening trade relationships 1516 01:38:00,459 --> 01:38:03,963 with others at our expense. 1517 01:38:04,171 --> 01:38:06,924 The rhetoric will come at a cost to our country. 1518 01:38:07,132 --> 01:38:10,344 And we have to improve um, our understanding 1519 01:38:10,553 --> 01:38:13,430 of an area that so many people talk about, 1520 01:38:13,639 --> 01:38:16,475 but many people have never been and don't understand. 1521 01:38:19,144 --> 01:38:21,939 But you just sit there and you look at it, 1522 01:38:22,147 --> 01:38:24,817 - go, "Wow, oh my god" you know, like... - These people 1523 01:38:25,025 --> 01:38:26,585 that are Crossing, how hard can it be? 1524 01:38:26,652 --> 01:38:28,362 - It looks scalable. - Oh yeah. 1525 01:38:28,571 --> 01:38:30,531 I mean it's-- it's America. 1526 01:38:30,739 --> 01:38:32,408 Especially with the wide-angle lens on, 1527 01:38:32,616 --> 01:38:34,869 it looks even that much more intimidating. 1528 01:38:35,077 --> 01:38:36,495 You got to do it with a fish eye. 1529 01:38:38,163 --> 01:38:39,999 I'm just curious now. 1530 01:38:40,207 --> 01:38:42,007 I'm just curious, I just wanna see if it's-- 1531 01:38:43,127 --> 01:38:46,255 If you jump on a 747. 1532 01:38:55,055 --> 01:38:57,975 Oh, there's a nice little cup holder here for you, too. 1533 01:39:08,027 --> 01:39:09,027 That was it? 1534 01:39:16,076 --> 01:39:17,244 Alright, so here is... 1535 01:39:18,787 --> 01:39:19,787 the wall. 1536 01:39:21,373 --> 01:39:24,460 There is Mexico, there is the US, 1537 01:39:24,668 --> 01:39:25,920 there is me! 1538 01:39:26,128 --> 01:39:27,212 There is the wall, 1539 01:39:27,421 --> 01:39:28,941 there is Border Patrol in the distance. 1540 01:39:30,174 --> 01:39:33,218 Not too uh-- not too difficult. 1541 01:39:47,274 --> 01:39:49,193 Seeing people cross, 1542 01:39:51,445 --> 01:39:53,322 we were afraid 1543 01:39:54,365 --> 01:39:56,617 and alarmed 1544 01:39:56,825 --> 01:40:00,245 and unsure of the situation. 1545 01:40:02,081 --> 01:40:06,460 And to realize that Those people were also alarmed 1546 01:40:06,669 --> 01:40:08,337 and afraid 1547 01:40:08,545 --> 01:40:10,005 and unsure of the situation. 1548 01:40:13,300 --> 01:40:16,303 And we felt that feeling for such a small instant 1549 01:40:16,512 --> 01:40:18,347 when we saw those groups of people crossing. 1550 01:40:20,015 --> 01:40:23,185 And it was-- it was-- it was stressful, it was tiring, 1551 01:40:23,394 --> 01:40:26,563 and to feel that for years, and years, and years 1552 01:40:27,648 --> 01:40:29,358 made me realize... 1553 01:40:31,068 --> 01:40:35,072 that there is a bigger issue than the actual crossing into the country. 1554 01:40:39,410 --> 01:40:43,080 If you think that someone who's desperate enough 1555 01:40:43,288 --> 01:40:45,165 to move from Guatemala to Austin, 1556 01:40:45,374 --> 01:40:47,501 and you think they're just gonna turn right around, 1557 01:40:47,710 --> 01:40:49,350 because they see a wall in front of 'em... 1558 01:40:51,255 --> 01:40:52,423 That's absurd. 1559 01:40:54,466 --> 01:40:56,552 That wanting a better life, 1560 01:40:58,220 --> 01:41:00,305 that's the issue that needs to be approached. 1561 01:41:17,281 --> 01:41:18,721 Preemptive wooh, we're not there yet. 1562 01:41:18,907 --> 01:41:21,577 Preemptive. Don't let go the boat just yet. 1563 01:41:21,785 --> 01:41:23,537 White pelicans! 1564 01:41:24,788 --> 01:41:26,457 Skimmers, black skimmers! 1565 01:41:27,791 --> 01:41:29,752 Skimmers, skimmers! 1566 01:41:34,256 --> 01:41:35,799 Done with this guy. 1567 01:41:38,135 --> 01:41:39,386 It's bittersweet. 1568 01:41:39,595 --> 01:41:42,347 We become pretty close. 1569 01:41:42,556 --> 01:41:45,184 It's-- I think it's gonna be like surreal 1570 01:41:45,392 --> 01:41:47,269 to finally see the Gulf and at the same time 1571 01:41:47,478 --> 01:41:50,481 like have a mix of emotions that like, this is-- this is ending. 1572 01:41:50,689 --> 01:41:52,149 I'm gonna miss you guys. 1573 01:41:52,357 --> 01:41:54,401 Yeah. 1574 01:41:54,610 --> 01:41:55,652 I'll miss you too, Ben. 1575 01:42:19,510 --> 01:42:21,345 I thought that the border 1576 01:42:21,553 --> 01:42:24,306 was just this desolate no-man's land. 1577 01:42:28,727 --> 01:42:30,437 But when I actually came out here, 1578 01:42:30,646 --> 01:42:33,607 I despised the idea of a physical wall 1579 01:42:33,816 --> 01:42:35,776 and the reason that I started to hate it 1580 01:42:35,984 --> 01:42:39,696 is because this land, this country is damn beautiful. 1581 01:42:45,494 --> 01:42:47,329 So tragic thinking about a border wall 1582 01:42:47,538 --> 01:42:50,749 cutting through some of the last remaining habitat 1583 01:42:50,958 --> 01:42:51,958 of this type... 1584 01:42:54,920 --> 01:43:00,175 that may be completely ineffective and unnecessary. 1585 01:43:02,344 --> 01:43:06,765 I don't think any of us are ignorant to the challenges 1586 01:43:06,974 --> 01:43:10,060 um, in terms of immigration and drug passing. 1587 01:43:10,269 --> 01:43:13,522 I think it's just the fact that like what we learned so far, 1588 01:43:13,730 --> 01:43:17,067 this structure that could be so destructive 1589 01:43:17,276 --> 01:43:19,611 to the environment and the private property rights 1590 01:43:19,820 --> 01:43:21,655 and access to water, 1591 01:43:22,614 --> 01:43:26,577 that that destructive potential quote, on-quote "solution" 1592 01:43:26,785 --> 01:43:27,911 is not a solution. 1593 01:43:35,252 --> 01:43:36,295 It's a distraction, 1594 01:43:37,337 --> 01:43:40,257 a distraction that ignores the root problems. 1595 01:43:43,927 --> 01:43:48,182 I feel honored to have seen and documented the Rio Grande 1596 01:43:48,390 --> 01:43:50,559 before it's potentially changed forever. 1597 01:43:54,980 --> 01:43:57,191 But it makes me so sad 1598 01:43:57,399 --> 01:44:01,862 to think that a political symbol and a king of pain promise 1599 01:44:02,070 --> 01:44:04,406 could destroy this beautiful landscape 1600 01:44:04,615 --> 01:44:05,782 that I've grown to love. 1601 01:44:08,994 --> 01:44:10,954 But I'm hopeful for a silver lining 1602 01:44:12,456 --> 01:44:14,291 that all the attention on the border 1603 01:44:14,499 --> 01:44:18,295 could lead to realistic immigration reform, 1604 01:44:18,503 --> 01:44:21,632 a more sensible way to approach border security, 1605 01:44:23,258 --> 01:44:26,386 and that the landscapes of the mighty Rio Grande 1606 01:44:26,595 --> 01:44:30,307 finally get the respect and the protection that they deserve. 1607 01:44:45,697 --> 01:44:47,908 I've been thinking about this for almost a year 1608 01:44:48,116 --> 01:44:49,576 and I cannot believe 1609 01:44:49,785 --> 01:44:51,785 that we are almost in the Gulf of Mexico right now. 1610 01:45:47,092 --> 01:45:49,303 Every once in a while it just hits me that 1611 01:45:49,511 --> 01:45:54,891 the photos' and the videos that were taken here might be 1612 01:45:55,100 --> 01:45:58,395 some of the last 1613 01:45:58,603 --> 01:46:00,522 of the Rio Grande 1614 01:46:00,731 --> 01:46:02,441 before the wall is constructed. 1615 01:46:06,528 --> 01:46:08,048 It's just a crazy thing to think about.