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[various musical genres
playing in sequence]
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[rotor blade whirring]
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[man] The Troubles here
in Northern Ireland,
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there was 30 years of conflict.
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And during that period of time,
around about 3,700 people were killed,
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and upwards of 40,000 people were injured.
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[indistinct shouting]
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[reporter] The result of all this has been
that a whole generation of teenagers
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have grown up
deprived of the normal social outlets
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that kids can expect elsewhere.
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That's why it's so important
when some kind of entertainment survives.
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[cheering and applause]
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[reporter 2] Right now,
many dance halls may have to close down
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and that's because of what happened
to the most popular group in Ireland.
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That group could fill any hall
north or south of the border.
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[crowd cheering]
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It was called the Miami Showband.
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♪ Well, I brushed down my shoes
Forgot my workday blues ♪
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♪ And headed off into the night ♪
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[man] The Miami Showband was
Ireland's most glamorous band.
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Often, we couldn't even hear
ourselves playing.
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You know, it was just all the screaming.
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♪ Movin' out in my car
Shinin' bright like a star ♪
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♪ I feel like things... ♪
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[woman] You just squashed in.
You didn't care what pain you suffered.
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You stood on your foot
once you were there.
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[man] They were our superstars.
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♪ Ooh ♪
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I was absolutely over the moon.
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Here am I, band leader of one
of the best bands in the world.
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The Irish Beatles.
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[chuckles]
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♪ I'm gonna have a wild night! ♪
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-[siren wailing]
-[man] I was devastated.
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[automatic gunfire]
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[man] Why would anyone want
to hurt the Miami?
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Everybody loves the music.
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[woman] The showband scene
was never the same again.
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The music died the night the Miami died.
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[reporter]
Do you think that the Miami Showband
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could've been a random assassination?
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[man] I don't think that it was random.
I think that they were singled out.
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[man 2]
It shocked people to the core here.
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[man 3] I'm determined to find out
who murdered Miami Showband,
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even if it leads up to the very top
of the British government.
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[man 4] It's been over 40 years,
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but we're finally
getting closer to the truth.
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I was born and raised in South Tipperary,
which is in the Irish Republic,
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far south of where the Troubles erupted
in Northern Ireland,
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which is part of the United Kingdom.
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My father was very much a nationalist.
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My father would definitely want
to see a united Ireland.
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I mean, that's what Irish people want.
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But there was no hatred,
there was no dislike of Britain.
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My dad volunteered
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to join the British Army
at the outbreak of World War II.
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I was brought up
with the respect for a uniform.
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They represented all that was good.
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I was never in any way suspicious of...
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of the Irish state
or of the British state.
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I knew nothing about politics.
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My parents, they had seen
what politics can do,
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so they were really happy
when I decided to play an instrument
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and devote my life to that, you know?
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-Hi, lads.
-Nice to see you.
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-Hello, mate.
-How are you doing?
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[Travers] In '62 and '63,
the Beatles took over the world.
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♪ Love, love me do ♪
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[Travers]
I heard "Love Me Do" on the radio.
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So, at the ripe old age of 11,
I decided to join The Beatles.
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Uh, It was that simple.
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♪ Love me do ♪
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[Travers] One day, this young lad asked me
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if I were interested in playing
bass guitar in his group.
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And I had never played bass guitar.
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But I thought,
"If it's good enough for Paul McCartney,
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it's probably good enough for me."
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And the minute I touched it,
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it was like somebody plugged me
into a socket.
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I played it until big blisters came up
on my fingers.
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And, uh, I started to get better
and make some sense of it.
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♪ Oh, come on down and let's dance
To the rock and roll motion ♪
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[Travers]
And that was the start of my music.
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♪ Come on down and let's dance... ♪
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[Travers]
And I rose up the totem pole very quickly.
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Well, at that time,
the conflict in Ireland was raging.
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[explosion]
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[screaming]
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[man shouting indistinctly]
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[nearby explosion]
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[reporter] More bombs in Northern Ireland,
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leaving the now very familiar
piles of rubble.
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There'll never be peace
until these people recognize
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Northern Ireland is part
of the United Kingdom,
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and will remain so.
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[cheering, clapping]
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[female reporter]
Northern unionists, mostly Protestant,
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want Northern Ireland
to maintain the union with Britain.
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And nationalists, mostly Catholics,
want a united Ireland.
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There'll never be any friendship
between Protestants and Catholics again.
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There's a bitterness.
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[female reporter]
The most potent paramilitary groups -
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on the loyalist side, the UVF,
or Ulster Volunteer Force,
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and on the Republican side,
you have the Provisional IRA,
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the Irish Republican Army.
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[Travers] As terrorism
by the paramilitary groups
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from both sides escalated,
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it was the civilians who suffered mostly.
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But at the same time
that this was happening,
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showbands were hugely popular in Ireland,
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North and South.
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♪ Just let me hear some
Of that rock and roll music ♪
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♪ Any old way you choose it ♪
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[Travers] And the showbands covered
the popular music of the day,
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anything that you could dance to.
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The showband scene was fantastic,
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because people were living in the Troubles
and it was a release for them.
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To get dressed up and go to a showband,
it was like therapy.
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[girls screaming]
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[Travers]
There were so many showbands back then,
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but the biggest show in the country
was the Miami Showband.
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I had to audition,
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but I had absolutely no doubt whatsoever
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that I would just walk up
and get that job.
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I was that confident.
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♪ I didn't even know your name ♪
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♪ I didn't care 'cause I was searchin' ♪
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♪ But you were always meant to be ♪
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I remember their front man, Fran O'Toole,
because he was just an icon.
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All the girls fell in love with him.
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[Travers] The girls would have
Fran's picture in their bedroom,
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all that type of thing.
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In fact, he was once described
as Ireland's greatest ever soul singer.
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He was that good.
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[audience applauds]
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This show is called Me and My Music.
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It's all about songs that I write
with a friend of mine called Des Lee.
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♪ I haven't even slept a wink ♪
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Des was the band leader.
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And seriously into his songwriting.
He was Fran's songwriting partner.
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We slept...
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drank, and ate music.
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And my primary instrument
was the saxophone.
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Brian McCoy was highly respected
in the music industry.
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Great trumpet player, and he idolized
his family and his children and his dog.
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[dog barks]
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[chuckles]
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Ray Millar was the drummer.
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He was great fun to be with,
and that told in his drumming.
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And our guitarist Tony Geraghty,
who was unusually gifted as a musician.
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We got very close very quickly.
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He'd look over at me
and we'd smile at each other
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and we'd put something extra
into the music.
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Sort of like a telepathy.
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[Lee] We all lived
in the Republic, in Dublin,
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but we were an extremely popular band
in Northern Ireland.
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[Travers] There was terrible atrocities
being committed.
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But through the middle
of all of this murder and mayhem,
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we were equally popular
on both sides of the border,
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north and south, to a mixed audience.
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You look down at an audience and...
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you can't pick out
the Catholic and the Protestant.
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They all looked the same,
they spoke the same.
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Back then, I actually didn't know
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what religion anybody was in the band.
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Ray Millar and Brian McCoy
were from the North and were Protestants.
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The rest were Catholics.
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It was never a question of religion
or politics.
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The only currency in our band was...
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"How well can this guy play?"
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That was it. Yeah,
that was the religion for us: music.
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Like all of the other bands
on the circuit,
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we were criss-crossing the border
into the North on a weekly basis.
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I bought into this, uh,
idea that musicians were immune.
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None of the bands were ever affected
by the problems of Northern Ireland.
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So...
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what happened to us on the 31st of July
came as an absolute shock.
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[Travers] The venue was
the Castle Ballroom in Banbridge.
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[Lee] Banbridge is in Northern Ireland.
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We had come from Dublin,
which is in the Republic.
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We got to the gig,
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everything was as normal.
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And on that particular night,
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they would've shouted up,
"Clap your hands! Stomp your feet!"
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'Cause that was Fran's number one.
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♪ Clap your hands! ♪
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♪ Stomp your feet! ♪
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[Devlin] I remember
"Clap Your Hands, Stomp Your Feet,"
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'cause we would've been about three feet
off the ground when we were doin' it.
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Just went crazy!
We just went crazy when they played it!
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We called our last song,
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and the people started
screaming and shouting.
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They wanted "more, more, more."
That's all you heard.
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[screaming]
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We left Banbridge... It was probably
around about two o'clock in the morning.
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Now, there were five in the van,
because Ray, the drummer,
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had gone straight back to Antrim
in his own car.
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And within a period
of about ten, fifteen minutes,
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we saw the torches...
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flagging us down.
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Brian turned back to us and said,
"Guys, there's a check up ahead."
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[car engine idling]
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[Travers] Once you got into the North,
you were liable to be stopped
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by, uh, authorities.
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This particular night,
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we were asked to get out of the van.
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[Travers] We got out. Stood near the van.
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I could see about five soldiers.
They were all armed with machine guns.
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And the soldiers were very friendly.
They were actually joking with us.
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But there was a man who appeared
on the scene who seemed to be in charge.
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The minute he arrived,
everybody became more professional.
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When he spoke, it was a distinct,
very posh, educated English accent.
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Not a Northern Ireland accent.
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When you were stopped at a roadblock
in Northern Ireland,
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it was not normal
to hear a British accent.
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That voice stood out for me
above all the rest.
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[Travers] Brian nudged my elbow,
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and he said, "We'll be away quickly.
This is the British Army."
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I felt safe.
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Uniform to me meant law and order.
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They were there to protect us.
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Just then, I heard other soldiers
opening our Volkswagen minibus.
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And, all of a sudden...
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[Lee] The van exploded.
There was fire like mad.
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There was shooting. There was screaming.
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There was crying. There was mayhem.
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And the impact of the actual bomb
going off on the van
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blew me over the ditch
down into the field.
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[Travers]
The whole world for me turned red.
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Everything was in slow motion.
And I tried to run. I heard the gunfire.
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[automatic gunfire]
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The soldiers jumped down
into the field after us,
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and they started shooting.
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[automatic gunfire]
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[Travers] I could hear Fran saying,
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"Please, don't shoot!"
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-[man sobbing]
-[automatic gunfire]
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And I could hear voices screaming,
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saying...
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[sighs]
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"Are you sure all those bastards
are dead?"
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I heard a voice from the road,
in a Northern Ireland accent, that said,
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"Come on! I got those bastards
with dumdums. They're dead."
246
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-[vehicle door closes]
-[engine starts]
247
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I got onto that main road.
248
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It was like an absolute war zone.
249
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There is blood everywhere.
250
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There's body parts everywhere.
251
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I called out Fran, Brian, Tony's names.
252
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None of the three of them answered.
253
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Huh.
254
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And Steve was moaning.
255
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I called out, "Steve?
256
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I'm going to Newry Police Station
to get help."
257
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[siren wailing]
258
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[Devlin] I came on duty the next morning
to see the Miami Showband...
259
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had been ambushed...
260
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and there was three members killed.
261
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And one in intensive care.
262
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[Travers] I had been shot with, uh,
263
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what they call a dumdum bullet,
which is an explosive bullet.
264
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It exploded into...
265
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it was something like 16 pieces
inside me.
266
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So it did a lot of damage.
267
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[Devlin] All the staff was concerned
whether he would survive or not.
268
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[inhales]
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Everybody was just...
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[exhales] sick.
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I just willed God for him to live.
272
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[woman] I expected Brian home about two,
273
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so I fell asleep,
and didn't hear anybody coming in.
274
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[phone ringing]
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[woman] And I got a phone call
about seven o'clock in the morning
276
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from Brian's brother-in-law.
277
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He said, "Oh, I heard there was
a band ambushed at the border."
278
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I said, "But I... [shudders]
279
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I don't know. I've got a bad feeling."
280
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And I put the radio on
to get the eight o'clock news.
281
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And it announced Brian was killed.
[inhales]
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Oh...
283
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[Travers] When I woke up in hospital,
284
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I would say,
"How are Tony and Fran and Brian?
285
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When can I see them?"
286
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The answer I got from everybody was,
287
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"Well, some are better
and some are worse."
288
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But eventually they had to tell me...
289
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that they were dead.
290
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[sighs wearily]
291
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[woman, a cappella] ♪ Of all the money ♪
292
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♪ That here I spent ♪
293
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♪ I spent it in good company ♪
294
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♪ And of all the harm ♪
295
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♪ That here I've done ♪
296
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♪ Alas, it was to none but me ♪
297
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[sobbing]
298
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♪ So fill to me the parting glass ♪
299
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♪ Good night and joy be with you all ♪
300
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The morning after the massacre...
301
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there were police officers
who brought me into a room...
302
00:18:50,254 --> 00:18:54,758
and asked me to help them draw
an Identi-Kit of someone
303
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who I remember was involved that night.
304
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And there was one thing that stuck out
in my mind.
305
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I was always a fan of Buddy Holly's.
306
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One of the guys had these heavy-rimmed,
dark glasses.
307
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And they found part of his glasses
on the main road.
308
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So, that's how they caught
one of the murderers.
309
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[Travers] Two men had been arrested
and charged for the murders.
310
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As I got better,
311
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I began to realize then
that I'm a witness to this thing.
312
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We were very nervous
about going back up North to testify.
313
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But I said to Stephen,
314
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"We need to do this for the lads.
315
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We need to go to court to help
the lads get these guys convicted."
316
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[Travers] When I saw the men
who murdered my friends,
317
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I didn't recognize them.
Des recognized one of them.
318
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[Lee] The families of those
that were accused were screaming at me,
319
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"One day we will get you! No matter where,
320
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no matter when!"
321
00:20:09,499 --> 00:20:12,461
[Travers] But when I mentioned that,
on the night of the incident,
322
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there was a British officer
arrived at the scene
323
00:20:15,631 --> 00:20:18,175
and that he was the man in charge
of the operation,
324
00:20:18,842 --> 00:20:21,595
it was always dismissed.
We were always told, you know,
325
00:20:21,678 --> 00:20:24,514
"Well, you know, you're wrong there."
Or, "It doesn't matter."
326
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At the time of the trial,
I wasn't interested.
327
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I just wanted this over and done with,
328
00:20:30,604 --> 00:20:32,564
and if these guys were guilty,
send them to jail,
329
00:20:32,648 --> 00:20:34,191
and if not, let us go home.
330
00:20:37,027 --> 00:20:39,571
Well, there... Of the original band,
we have two of the lads.
331
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We have Ray, our drummer here,
332
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and we have Stephen on bass guitar.
Two of the original members.
333
00:20:46,078 --> 00:20:48,330
-[man] And yourself.
-And myself, making it three. Yeah.
334
00:20:48,914 --> 00:20:51,124
[Lee]
Putting the Miami back together was...
335
00:20:51,208 --> 00:20:53,627
to a great extent, it was naivety.
336
00:20:53,710 --> 00:20:55,796
We just wanted to push it aside.
337
00:20:58,173 --> 00:21:00,092
[reporter]
Without playing even a single note,
338
00:21:00,550 --> 00:21:03,845
the Miami had become
Ireland's top showband again,
339
00:21:04,304 --> 00:21:07,182
mainly due to the universal sympathy
they've received.
340
00:21:07,474 --> 00:21:09,226
[Travers] The crowds were even bigger.
341
00:21:09,810 --> 00:21:11,019
The hysteria.
342
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,398
I had this impression, "They're coming
to see us, not to hear us."
343
00:21:14,856 --> 00:21:18,110
It was more voyeurism
than appreciation of music.
344
00:21:19,611 --> 00:21:21,738
♪ If you could see them ♪
345
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[Travers] I shouldn't have gone back.
I was... severely traumatized.
346
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,041
I got physically better
reasonably quickly.
347
00:21:33,125 --> 00:21:35,377
I was young. I was only 24 years of age.
348
00:21:37,087 --> 00:21:38,964
But it's just something that...
349
00:21:39,047 --> 00:21:42,801
presses in on you
and stops you from living a normal life.
350
00:21:43,343 --> 00:21:46,722
The management persuaded me
to stay until the summertime.
351
00:21:47,306 --> 00:21:49,224
I couldn't wait to get out of the band.
352
00:21:58,108 --> 00:22:02,362
Anne and I decided that we'd go to London
and start a new life
353
00:22:02,446 --> 00:22:04,239
and become anonymous.
354
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,576
I thought, "I'll never again
have to worry about anything.
355
00:22:07,659 --> 00:22:10,287
I'll just stay here,
then forget that night.
356
00:22:10,662 --> 00:22:12,706
I'll keep this pushed away.
357
00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:15,876
This is not part of my life anymore.
This is just history."
358
00:22:17,210 --> 00:22:20,088
We lived in London for about 17 years.
359
00:22:21,298 --> 00:22:23,800
But, no matter what I did in my life,
360
00:22:25,010 --> 00:22:26,678
this thing was always there.
361
00:22:30,807 --> 00:22:33,685
While we were in London,
Ireland had changed.
362
00:22:34,061 --> 00:22:36,188
We decided, "Look, it's safe.
363
00:22:36,271 --> 00:22:38,231
Let's move back to Ireland."
364
00:22:38,690 --> 00:22:41,943
But questions were being raised
about the murder of the Miami Showband.
365
00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:51,411
So I was asked to give evidence
at the Barron tribunal,
366
00:22:53,038 --> 00:22:57,209
which suggested that it was more
than just a bunch of thugs
367
00:22:57,292 --> 00:22:59,878
that were responsible for our event.
368
00:23:01,129 --> 00:23:04,925
Perhaps these questions
are worth following up.
369
00:23:08,011 --> 00:23:10,639
I said, "I owe it...
370
00:23:10,722 --> 00:23:13,725
not just to the guys who were killed,
not just to our friends.
371
00:23:14,351 --> 00:23:15,685
I owe it to myself as well
372
00:23:15,769 --> 00:23:18,063
to get some answers here.
I've waited a long time."
373
00:23:24,152 --> 00:23:25,779
That's when I met Margaret Urwin,
374
00:23:25,862 --> 00:23:30,534
who had already done extensive work
investigating cases, including ours.
375
00:23:30,617 --> 00:23:34,162
Obviously, the Miami Showband
was particularly targeted.
376
00:23:34,246 --> 00:23:36,998
The intention clearly was that...
377
00:23:37,541 --> 00:23:39,209
the bomb would kill all of them.
378
00:23:39,292 --> 00:23:40,877
[explosion]
379
00:23:41,169 --> 00:23:43,713
[Urwin] But the bomb exploded prematurely.
380
00:23:44,214 --> 00:23:46,383
[reporter] The bodies of two men
were discovered
381
00:23:46,466 --> 00:23:47,759
near the wreckage of the van.
382
00:23:47,843 --> 00:23:53,181
[Urwin] And the people who were killed
were Harris Boyle and Wesley Somerville.
383
00:23:53,765 --> 00:23:55,684
[reporter] Tattoo marks identified them
384
00:23:55,767 --> 00:24:00,272
as having been members of the Protestant
Ulster Volunteer Force, the UVF.
385
00:24:02,816 --> 00:24:06,945
[Travers] Obviously, I knew the name UVF,
Ulster Volunteer Force.
386
00:24:07,028 --> 00:24:09,948
But I knew nothing else about them,
until my investigation.
387
00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:13,201
Loyalist paramilitaries like the UVF
388
00:24:13,285 --> 00:24:16,955
were prepared to do anything to maintain
the union with Britain,
389
00:24:17,038 --> 00:24:18,498
including murder.
390
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,043
-[man] You've got guns?
-Yes.
391
00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:24,254
-And you're prepared to use them?
-True.
392
00:24:24,713 --> 00:24:27,048
-And you have used them?
-Yes.
393
00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:32,471
[crowd chanting]
394
00:24:33,513 --> 00:24:37,058
[Urwin] There were many arrests
in the days following the attack.
395
00:24:37,142 --> 00:24:41,062
Two of those convicted
were Thomas Raymond Crozier
396
00:24:41,146 --> 00:24:43,648
and James Roderic McDowell,
397
00:24:44,232 --> 00:24:46,026
also members of the UVF.
398
00:24:47,152 --> 00:24:50,071
[man] "Killings like the Miami Showband's
must be stopped," said the judge,
399
00:24:50,155 --> 00:24:51,865
as he sentenced McDowell and Crozier
400
00:24:51,948 --> 00:24:54,743
to the longest life sentences
in Northern Ireland's history.
401
00:24:58,246 --> 00:25:00,957
[Travers] There was one other name
that surfaced all the time.
402
00:25:02,209 --> 00:25:05,378
The local branch
of the Ulster Volunteer Force, the UVF,
403
00:25:05,462 --> 00:25:09,257
had just recently had a new leader
called Robin Jackson.
404
00:25:10,175 --> 00:25:11,718
He was known as the Jackal.
405
00:25:13,136 --> 00:25:16,848
Robin Jackson was possibly
the most prolific murderer
406
00:25:16,932 --> 00:25:20,519
in the entire history
of the conflict in Northern Ireland.
407
00:25:21,561 --> 00:25:24,064
[Travers]
It's alleged Jackson was responsible
408
00:25:24,147 --> 00:25:27,776
for between 50 and 135 murders,
409
00:25:27,859 --> 00:25:31,613
either carrying out the murders himself
or with his gang.
410
00:25:32,030 --> 00:25:35,617
And the former prisoners
who served time with Jackson
411
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:40,664
unrelated to the Miami Showband incident
told us that he would lift his shirt
412
00:25:41,248 --> 00:25:45,210
and show off the burn marks
that he received from the bomb blast.
413
00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:52,300
Robin Jackson had been brought in
for questioning
414
00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:54,302
about the Miami Showband massacre.
415
00:25:55,762 --> 00:25:58,807
I was an active police officer
for 37 years.
416
00:25:58,890 --> 00:26:03,812
I was the head of the intelligence
within J Division, where Jackson lived.
417
00:26:04,229 --> 00:26:07,274
Jackson was actually, uh,
a number one target of ours.
418
00:26:08,608 --> 00:26:11,987
He was lifted in connection
to the Miami Showband
419
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:14,489
because of A -
the locality where it happened,
420
00:26:14,573 --> 00:26:17,325
it was Robin Jackson's home territory -
421
00:26:18,118 --> 00:26:20,996
the fact he was a leading light
in the UVF,
422
00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:24,874
the fact that he was an associate
of Boyle and Somerville.
423
00:26:26,209 --> 00:26:29,629
But they didn't have circumstantial
evidence or forensic evidence.
424
00:26:30,088 --> 00:26:34,301
And Jackson just remained totally silent
when interviewed.
425
00:26:34,384 --> 00:26:35,844
So, he walked out.
426
00:26:41,308 --> 00:26:45,020
[Travers]
And because I had to know more about this,
427
00:26:45,103 --> 00:26:49,024
I spoke to two former
British intelligence officers.
428
00:26:52,152 --> 00:26:55,572
[Wallace]
During the late '60s and early '70s,
429
00:26:55,655 --> 00:26:58,450
I was with the Army in Northern Ireland.
430
00:26:58,533 --> 00:27:00,702
I was the Senior Information Officer.
431
00:27:02,537 --> 00:27:06,708
But that was a cover title
for psychological operations.
432
00:27:06,791 --> 00:27:08,710
My role was to collect information
433
00:27:08,793 --> 00:27:13,006
about how we could disrupt
the terrorist organizations.
434
00:27:14,507 --> 00:27:17,552
We were dealing
with a huge level of violence.
435
00:27:19,596 --> 00:27:22,432
People now forget just how violent it was.
436
00:27:22,515 --> 00:27:24,267
My job was to recruit sources
437
00:27:24,351 --> 00:27:27,145
within the terrorist organizations
who would give us information,
438
00:27:27,937 --> 00:27:30,899
which would help us fight terrorism
in all its forms.
439
00:27:31,316 --> 00:27:33,902
Both sides, Protestant and Catholic.
440
00:27:33,985 --> 00:27:37,280
And towards the end of my time there,
I did most of my work for MI6.
441
00:27:37,364 --> 00:27:38,823
[indistinct shouting]
442
00:27:38,907 --> 00:27:42,535
[Holroyd] MI6 is the British equivalent
of the American CIA.
443
00:27:42,619 --> 00:27:44,287
So, in other words, they're spies.
444
00:27:48,249 --> 00:27:51,169
We were pretty clued up
on who was carrying out the violence,
445
00:27:51,252 --> 00:27:53,797
what their political motivation was,
446
00:27:54,255 --> 00:27:55,757
and what they were trying to achieve.
447
00:27:56,341 --> 00:27:58,468
The reason we were monitoring, uh,
448
00:27:58,551 --> 00:28:00,887
Harris Boyle and that particular gang
449
00:28:00,970 --> 00:28:03,264
was because we knew they were terrorists.
450
00:28:05,183 --> 00:28:06,601
Robin Jackson, the Jackal,
451
00:28:06,685 --> 00:28:09,646
was one of the up-and-coming thugs
in the area
452
00:28:09,729 --> 00:28:12,148
who was muscling his way
into the organization.
453
00:28:12,232 --> 00:28:15,819
And it's my belief
that Robin Jackson was involved
454
00:28:15,902 --> 00:28:17,779
in the Miami Showband attack.
455
00:28:19,155 --> 00:28:21,908
The terrorists set up a roadblock,
456
00:28:21,991 --> 00:28:24,536
dressed as members
of the Ulster Defense Regiment.
457
00:28:24,619 --> 00:28:27,956
In other words, looking like real members
of the Army.
458
00:28:31,126 --> 00:28:34,671
[Holroyd] The Ulster Defense Regiment
was the Army in Northern Ireland.
459
00:28:41,177 --> 00:28:44,764
[Urwin] In fact, uh, the two were arrested
for the Miami murders,
460
00:28:45,140 --> 00:28:47,058
McDowell and Crozier were both
461
00:28:47,142 --> 00:28:49,936
serving members
of the Ulster Defense Regiment.
462
00:28:50,186 --> 00:28:54,065
Many loyalist paramilitaries
had infiltrated into the local Army,
463
00:28:54,357 --> 00:28:57,861
and were taking guns from them
and using them to kill people.
464
00:28:57,944 --> 00:29:01,322
[man] In one burst if you wish. But when
you're firing, fire in short bursts,
465
00:29:01,406 --> 00:29:04,951
short, sharp bursts. And you can judge it
by squeezing the trigger:
466
00:29:05,034 --> 00:29:06,453
squeeze, one, two, release.
467
00:29:06,536 --> 00:29:08,955
[Wallace] Robin Jackson
also had been a member
468
00:29:09,038 --> 00:29:11,750
of the Ulster Defense Regiment
in the early '70s.
469
00:29:12,625 --> 00:29:14,627
[siren blares]
470
00:29:15,670 --> 00:29:21,968
By 1972, almost 100 weapons
were stolen from a UDR Reserve Army base.
471
00:29:23,553 --> 00:29:25,472
It quite clearly was an inside job.
472
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:31,060
We believed Robin Jackson was one
of the people involved in that robbery.
473
00:29:32,145 --> 00:29:35,356
The police searched Jackson's home
474
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,359
and they discovered that he had
some ammunition he shouldn't have.
475
00:29:39,235 --> 00:29:43,114
But Jackson was allowed to stay free.
Why did that happen?
476
00:29:45,074 --> 00:29:50,330
Almost every single weapon
used in the Miami Showband murders
477
00:29:50,663 --> 00:29:54,876
originated from the UDR
or the police in Northern Ireland.
478
00:29:56,169 --> 00:29:57,253
Every one of them.
479
00:30:04,344 --> 00:30:08,515
Senior officials were very quick to deny
480
00:30:08,598 --> 00:30:12,352
that there was any police or Army
involvement in the Miami attack.
481
00:30:13,812 --> 00:30:16,314
Then, of course, Crozier was charged.
482
00:30:17,357 --> 00:30:19,692
[man] Major,
it's difficult for people to understand
483
00:30:19,818 --> 00:30:22,445
how the killers of the Miami Showband
484
00:30:22,821 --> 00:30:25,281
could've been allowed
into the Ulster Defence Regiment.
485
00:30:25,365 --> 00:30:26,366
If...
486
00:30:26,991 --> 00:30:28,827
there was nothing known about them...
487
00:30:29,244 --> 00:30:31,996
when they applied, then there's no way
488
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,207
that one could disbar them
from joining it.
489
00:30:34,290 --> 00:30:37,293
I would've been one of the people
that thought,
490
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:39,254
"It was just a few bad apples."
491
00:30:40,129 --> 00:30:43,508
That these people were renegades
or exceptions.
492
00:30:45,718 --> 00:30:48,888
I just refused to accept
any notion of collusion.
493
00:30:49,889 --> 00:30:52,225
Collusion is cooperation between...
494
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:55,854
terrorist groups and the Army
and the police.
495
00:30:58,106 --> 00:31:00,567
I wanted to believe
that the system worked.
496
00:31:07,657 --> 00:31:10,994
2005 was an important milestone.
497
00:31:11,995 --> 00:31:16,291
It's the 30th anniversary
of the Miami Showband massacre.
498
00:31:23,006 --> 00:31:24,507
It brought it all back,
499
00:31:24,966 --> 00:31:28,052
not just to me,
not just to the families and friends,
500
00:31:28,136 --> 00:31:30,722
but the entire country, North and South.
501
00:31:34,601 --> 00:31:37,103
It's a hard day to be back here today, ah,
502
00:31:37,687 --> 00:31:39,105
at the actual spot.
503
00:31:41,107 --> 00:31:42,692
[Travers] It forced me to think about it
504
00:31:42,775 --> 00:31:45,528
in a way that I hadn't
really thought about it before.
505
00:31:46,446 --> 00:31:49,532
That we were fighting for truth.
506
00:31:50,158 --> 00:31:52,619
Maybe even more than justice.
507
00:31:56,122 --> 00:31:57,290
I felt a duty.
508
00:31:58,416 --> 00:32:00,585
I was determined to keep going.
509
00:32:06,257 --> 00:32:09,636
And in 2005, there was a breakthrough.
510
00:32:11,137 --> 00:32:14,265
I first met Alan Brecknell
when he was investigating
511
00:32:15,141 --> 00:32:19,270
the murder of his father,
who was also killed by the same gang
512
00:32:19,354 --> 00:32:21,105
that murdered the Miami Showband.
513
00:32:21,856 --> 00:32:28,029
So, I suppose that's what's brought me
into the work in 2005, 2006.
514
00:32:28,613 --> 00:32:32,158
The police service in Northern Ireland
set up the Historical Enquiries Team
515
00:32:32,575 --> 00:32:36,829
with the sole purpose of trying
to answer questions for families,
516
00:32:38,456 --> 00:32:41,417
to review every single death.
517
00:32:42,377 --> 00:32:45,171
[reporter] Police intelligence papers
have at last come to light.
518
00:32:45,672 --> 00:32:49,968
They were found by detectives from
the Historical Enquiries Team, the HET.
519
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,471
[Travers] I thought it was
just another group
520
00:32:53,554 --> 00:32:55,390
that I was going to give evidence to.
521
00:32:56,849 --> 00:32:59,686
As it turned out, it was quite important.
522
00:32:59,769 --> 00:33:04,899
What has been made public
is new and disturbing information
523
00:33:05,483 --> 00:33:08,778
that centers on this man,
UVF Commander Robin Jackson.
524
00:33:08,861 --> 00:33:09,904
[gunshot]
525
00:33:10,321 --> 00:33:12,198
[Urwin] One of the weapons tested
526
00:33:12,281 --> 00:33:15,326
and found to have been used
in the Miami murders,
527
00:33:15,410 --> 00:33:19,622
a Luger pistol, was found
about ten months after the murders.
528
00:33:20,665 --> 00:33:25,795
Now, with the pistol was found a silencer
wrapped in insulating tape.
529
00:33:26,546 --> 00:33:30,842
Robin Jackson's fingerprints
were found on the silencer.
530
00:33:32,802 --> 00:33:34,721
But there was a mistake made
531
00:33:34,804 --> 00:33:38,474
by the fingerprinting department initially
in their report.
532
00:33:40,393 --> 00:33:44,814
And they said that his fingerprints
were on the tape.
533
00:33:47,734 --> 00:33:50,862
[Brecknell] Robin Jackson come
with a ready-made excuse
534
00:33:51,070 --> 00:33:55,616
for why the fingerprint
would have been on the insulating tape.
535
00:33:56,617 --> 00:33:58,453
Clearly, somebody had tipped him off.
536
00:33:58,911 --> 00:34:03,041
And the question has to be asked:
why was someone within the police force
537
00:34:03,124 --> 00:34:05,209
giving Robin Jackson information
538
00:34:05,293 --> 00:34:11,716
if this is the most notorious
Loyalist gunman in the North at that time?
539
00:34:14,469 --> 00:34:19,057
[Travers] The result of the HET inquiry
handed us the police on a plate.
540
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:22,727
They gave us a smoking gun.
541
00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:26,230
[Cadwallader]
The Historical Enquiries Team found
542
00:34:26,314 --> 00:34:28,316
that the detective who questioned Jackson
543
00:34:28,649 --> 00:34:32,445
initiated a complaint
against officers that tipped off Jackson.
544
00:34:33,196 --> 00:34:36,282
The report went up the chain of command,
and then... poof!
545
00:34:36,365 --> 00:34:37,241
Nothing happened.
546
00:34:37,325 --> 00:34:39,494
There are no records
as to where that actually went,
547
00:34:39,577 --> 00:34:41,245
and what the outcome of it was.
548
00:34:42,121 --> 00:34:45,500
And that wasn't the first time
that he has escaped justice.
549
00:34:46,042 --> 00:34:48,586
-[explosion]
-[siren wails]
550
00:34:50,088 --> 00:34:53,508
[male reporter] Within 90 seconds,
central Dublin had been devastated.
551
00:34:55,176 --> 00:34:57,011
[alarm blares]
552
00:34:58,054 --> 00:35:01,182
[male reporter] Thirty-three lay dead,
and nearly 300 were injured.
553
00:35:01,265 --> 00:35:04,852
To this day, it remains
the worst atrocity of the Troubles.
554
00:35:05,394 --> 00:35:08,856
There have been bombs here before,
but nothing of the scale of yesterday's.
555
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,860
[Urwin] Three bombs exploded in Dublin
during rush hour,
556
00:35:12,944 --> 00:35:15,571
and then, about an hour and a half later,
557
00:35:15,655 --> 00:35:19,283
a fourth bomb exploded
in Monaghan Town in Northern Ireland.
558
00:35:19,575 --> 00:35:22,703
The terrible atrocity in 1974,
559
00:35:23,246 --> 00:35:25,915
which was just a year before the Miami,
560
00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:30,628
we're talking about May '74 and July '75.
561
00:35:31,045 --> 00:35:34,632
I can tell you that I do know and believe
that some of those that were involved,
562
00:35:35,049 --> 00:35:38,970
uh, in the Miami had a hand
in the Dublin and Monaghan bombings.
563
00:35:40,471 --> 00:35:43,141
[male reporter] Also named
were three leading loyalists
564
00:35:43,224 --> 00:35:44,600
as the planners of the bombings.
565
00:35:45,351 --> 00:35:47,687
Harris Boyle, a UVF major,
566
00:35:48,354 --> 00:35:51,023
and a loyalist killer,
known as the Jackal.
567
00:35:51,983 --> 00:35:55,778
Atrocities were allowed to be carried out
by the Protestants. We knew who they were.
568
00:35:56,112 --> 00:35:58,739
We had information,
and no action was ever taken against them.
569
00:35:59,782 --> 00:36:01,534
[male reporter]
Captain Holroyd was surprised
570
00:36:01,617 --> 00:36:03,953
that he was not ordered
to investigate the Dublin bombings,
571
00:36:04,036 --> 00:36:06,372
since he was the Military
Intelligence Officer
572
00:36:06,455 --> 00:36:08,291
where the suspects were based.
573
00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:13,087
We've got a list of names, uh,
that we call the Protected List.
574
00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:15,756
[Brecknell]
Colin Wallace actually provided a list,
575
00:36:16,257 --> 00:36:18,259
a year before the attack on the Miami,
576
00:36:19,177 --> 00:36:22,597
of people who he knew
to be loyalist paramilitaries.
577
00:36:24,682 --> 00:36:27,101
And on that list
is quite a few of the people
578
00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:28,895
who were involved in the Miami.
579
00:36:31,772 --> 00:36:33,816
[Travers]
Colin Wallace asked for permission
580
00:36:34,442 --> 00:36:37,403
to target some of the people
on the Protected List.
581
00:36:37,904 --> 00:36:39,864
But he was never given permission
for that.
582
00:36:40,406 --> 00:36:41,407
Jackson...
583
00:36:42,033 --> 00:36:45,077
and the other people on that list,
had they been taken in,
584
00:36:45,161 --> 00:36:48,080
had they been arrested,
had they been charged with offenses,
585
00:36:48,789 --> 00:36:51,626
they wouldn't have been there
to kill our guys.
586
00:36:58,507 --> 00:37:02,303
[Wallace] In my view, the UVF had links
that were much too close
587
00:37:02,386 --> 00:37:04,931
with members
of the British intelligence community.
588
00:37:05,223 --> 00:37:08,226
I was the youngest Senior Information
Officer in the Ministry of Defense.
589
00:37:08,809 --> 00:37:11,646
My reports were extremely good,
590
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:14,190
and, overnight, I was out.
591
00:37:15,149 --> 00:37:16,776
Why did that suddenly change?
592
00:37:17,443 --> 00:37:19,570
[Travers] There's no other conclusion
we can come to
593
00:37:19,654 --> 00:37:21,656
other than members of terrorist groups
594
00:37:21,739 --> 00:37:24,784
were working either for
or with British Military Intelligence.
595
00:37:25,284 --> 00:37:28,579
[Cadwallader] We believe that
and other evidence against him
596
00:37:28,663 --> 00:37:32,333
clearly demonstrated
that Robin Jackson was an agent!
597
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,335
[Travers] An agent is someone
598
00:37:34,418 --> 00:37:39,715
who is working for
British Military Intelligence, MI5 or MI6.
599
00:37:39,799 --> 00:37:42,551
You have somebody who is...
600
00:37:43,219 --> 00:37:48,015
murdering people at the same time
as he's being controlled by the state.
601
00:37:48,099 --> 00:37:50,643
That, in my view,
makes the state complicit.
602
00:37:50,726 --> 00:37:53,854
I knew all of this.
A lot of people knew all of this.
603
00:37:53,938 --> 00:37:55,564
But what could we do with it?
604
00:37:55,648 --> 00:37:58,067
All we could do was feed it
into the system.
605
00:37:58,150 --> 00:38:02,613
And if the system doesn't allow you
to act on it, you can't act on it.
606
00:38:02,697 --> 00:38:04,865
[Travers] I just couldn't deny it anymore,
607
00:38:04,949 --> 00:38:08,119
that there was collusion,
as part of a system.
608
00:38:12,164 --> 00:38:14,667
And I had to find out
how far up this went.
609
00:38:15,376 --> 00:38:18,212
I have no interest whatsoever
in anybody being punished,
610
00:38:18,296 --> 00:38:21,590
but I have every interest
that we change the system,
611
00:38:21,674 --> 00:38:25,052
because it is not right
to kill innocent people.
612
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:29,056
I'm extremely hard to turn.
613
00:38:29,932 --> 00:38:33,853
But once I turn, I do not,
I will not back down.
614
00:38:37,898 --> 00:38:40,026
The more I learned, the more I realized,
615
00:38:40,109 --> 00:38:42,361
there's something
that was glaringly obvious.
616
00:38:43,487 --> 00:38:46,741
The British officer
that had arrived at the scene.
617
00:38:47,950 --> 00:38:49,243
And I began to think...
618
00:38:50,077 --> 00:38:55,583
maybe the reason that this British officer
is being dismissed out of hand
619
00:38:55,666 --> 00:39:00,296
on so many occasions
is that it's not that he wasn't relevant.
620
00:39:00,379 --> 00:39:01,881
It was because he was very relevant.
621
00:39:03,174 --> 00:39:07,803
[Travers] Then when I insisted to the HET,
“I want to know more about this officer,"
622
00:39:07,887 --> 00:39:10,639
they said, "Well,
it wasn't really a British officer.
623
00:39:10,723 --> 00:39:14,852
McDowell was putting on
an English accent to fool you."
624
00:39:16,103 --> 00:39:17,188
It didn't make any sense.
625
00:39:17,271 --> 00:39:20,232
Why would a man who knows
you're going to be dead in ten minutes
626
00:39:20,524 --> 00:39:22,026
try to disguise his accent?
627
00:39:22,318 --> 00:39:25,863
There was nobody wearing a balaclava.
It was just nonsense.
628
00:39:26,322 --> 00:39:31,786
[Travers] I felt that the HET were keeping
guilt on this side of the Irish Sea.
629
00:39:33,287 --> 00:39:35,414
The HET was set up
by the British government,
630
00:39:35,498 --> 00:39:37,917
so they were answerable
to the British government.
631
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,754
We've trusted
that their conclusions would be fair,
632
00:39:42,129 --> 00:39:44,548
accurate, without bias.
633
00:39:45,174 --> 00:39:46,592
[Travers] But they weren't.
634
00:39:47,259 --> 00:39:52,348
There was this concerted effort
to throw anybody from Northern Ireland,
635
00:39:52,431 --> 00:39:55,101
i.e. the UDR or the police,
636
00:39:55,393 --> 00:39:57,061
they're gonna throw them to the wolves.
637
00:39:59,980 --> 00:40:02,942
They didn't want to involve
the British establishment.
638
00:40:04,902 --> 00:40:06,612
When I wouldn't accept that,
639
00:40:07,029 --> 00:40:10,199
they cornered me
after one of the meetings.
640
00:40:12,451 --> 00:40:13,953
It was very intimidating.
641
00:40:14,036 --> 00:40:16,205
They said, "We don't know
when you first brought
642
00:40:16,288 --> 00:40:18,082
the British Army into the narrative!"
643
00:40:20,584 --> 00:40:23,129
That worried me, because I thought,
644
00:40:23,212 --> 00:40:26,006
"How do I prove that I've been talking
about British Army
645
00:40:26,090 --> 00:40:28,759
as opposed to UDR for all these years?"
646
00:40:29,343 --> 00:40:31,595
So, I went home and...
647
00:40:31,887 --> 00:40:36,100
I said to my wife,
"I feel that they've won this argument."
648
00:40:37,393 --> 00:40:39,562
And she immediately solved the problem.
649
00:40:41,147 --> 00:40:43,190
She had newspaper cuttings
650
00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:46,444
on an interview that I did
exactly two weeks after the incident.
651
00:40:48,904 --> 00:40:53,325
And I clearly say that Brian McCoy,
our trumpet bearer, said,
652
00:40:53,409 --> 00:40:56,162
"Don't worry, Steve.
This is the British Army."
653
00:40:58,289 --> 00:41:03,794
I sent it to the HET and I said, "Will you
now revise your conclusions on this?"
654
00:41:04,587 --> 00:41:07,381
And they refused even to acknowledge
that I sent it to them.
655
00:41:07,756 --> 00:41:12,094
I don't need any inquiries to convince me
that there was collusion.
656
00:41:12,178 --> 00:41:14,054
I don't need any inquiries to tell me
657
00:41:14,138 --> 00:41:16,807
that there was a British Army officer
on the scene,
658
00:41:16,891 --> 00:41:20,102
in charge of the operation on the night.
I know that.
659
00:41:23,189 --> 00:41:27,693
The HET was not going to give me
any answers about the British officer.
660
00:41:28,569 --> 00:41:32,948
So I realized that I needed
to find another source of information.
661
00:41:34,074 --> 00:41:38,162
The obvious people that we needed
to talk to, uh...
662
00:41:38,537 --> 00:41:41,540
were the people who had been jailed,
who had actually committed the crime:
663
00:41:43,626 --> 00:41:45,419
Crozier and McDowell.
664
00:41:45,503 --> 00:41:46,795
[whistling, applause]
665
00:41:46,879 --> 00:41:50,841
At this stage, they were released,
as part of the peace process.
666
00:41:51,926 --> 00:41:55,971
After two years of talks
and after a generation of bloodshed,
667
00:41:56,472 --> 00:42:00,184
and decades of division and acrimony,
a new era of peace.
668
00:42:00,267 --> 00:42:02,478
[Ahern] The prisoners
Tony Blair and I let out,
669
00:42:02,561 --> 00:42:04,063
to an overwhelming majority,
670
00:42:04,146 --> 00:42:06,732
were lifers,
people who had got life sentences,
671
00:42:06,815 --> 00:42:08,150
some of them for 40 years.
672
00:42:08,234 --> 00:42:09,693
To get to them,
673
00:42:09,985 --> 00:42:11,278
we would need permission
674
00:42:11,362 --> 00:42:15,115
from the leadership of the organization
that they were a part of,
675
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:16,867
the UVF, the Ulster Volunteer Force.
676
00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:23,290
You don't find the UVF
in the Yellow Pages.
677
00:42:23,374 --> 00:42:25,334
You can't just dial the operator and say,
678
00:42:25,417 --> 00:42:27,419
"Can you put me through
to the UVF, please?"
679
00:42:27,878 --> 00:42:31,549
But I remembered that there was
a friend of Fran O'Toole's,
680
00:42:32,341 --> 00:42:36,804
and I heard he had been involved
in the peace process
681
00:42:37,096 --> 00:42:40,266
as some sort of liaison between the UVF
682
00:42:40,683 --> 00:42:42,726
and the British and Irish governments.
683
00:42:42,810 --> 00:42:44,562
Stephen Travers contacted me,
684
00:42:44,645 --> 00:42:47,773
and he had read a lot
about the work I had done with...
685
00:42:48,148 --> 00:42:50,276
loyalist paramilitaries
in Northern Ireland.
686
00:42:50,359 --> 00:42:52,861
And he felt I might be able
to open a door for him.
687
00:42:53,362 --> 00:42:54,863
And he came back and he told us,
688
00:42:54,947 --> 00:42:58,784
"Look, you won't be allowed to meet
Crozier and McDowell.
689
00:42:59,868 --> 00:43:01,120
But there's a possibility
690
00:43:01,203 --> 00:43:03,914
that I can get you a meeting
with the leadership of the UVF."
691
00:43:04,582 --> 00:43:08,627
And what they always say
is the second-in-command.
692
00:43:11,088 --> 00:43:13,299
The code name was to be the Craftsman.
693
00:43:14,883 --> 00:43:19,513
Chris rang me and he said, uh,
"There's a taxi waiting downstairs for us.
694
00:43:19,597 --> 00:43:21,682
We're going to meet this man now."
695
00:43:21,974 --> 00:43:24,059
And I just looked at him and said,
696
00:43:24,518 --> 00:43:26,145
"All they can do is kill us!"
697
00:43:26,770 --> 00:43:30,357
Uh, which seemed perfectly logical to me,
698
00:43:30,441 --> 00:43:36,280
but that just gives an indication
as to how happy I was
699
00:43:36,572 --> 00:43:38,699
to be close to getting some answers.
700
00:43:39,950 --> 00:43:44,163
[Hudson] The Craftsman sat down
and he took out handwritten notes,
701
00:43:44,246 --> 00:43:46,624
probably about eight or nine pages.
702
00:43:48,667 --> 00:43:51,128
And he said, "I knew this day would come."
703
00:43:52,296 --> 00:43:54,173
[Travers] The Craftsman told me that...
704
00:43:54,965 --> 00:43:58,844
the intention was
that we would be at home safely in bed,
705
00:43:59,303 --> 00:44:01,597
and this bomb would've gone off.
706
00:44:01,972 --> 00:44:05,309
And they would've put out a statement
that they can reach
707
00:44:05,726 --> 00:44:08,896
into Dublin
and into the heart of the Irish Republic.
708
00:44:09,229 --> 00:44:11,732
But I knew from the scene-of-crime officer
709
00:44:11,815 --> 00:44:14,860
that it was a short-term fuse,
ten to fifteen minutes.
710
00:44:15,527 --> 00:44:17,029
This would have exploded...
711
00:44:17,112 --> 00:44:18,155
[explosion]
712
00:44:18,489 --> 00:44:20,157
killing everybody on board.
713
00:44:24,286 --> 00:44:28,499
I asked the Craftsman
about the British officer. It was...
714
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:30,542
actually...
715
00:44:31,043 --> 00:44:31,877
surprising.
716
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,047
He didn't deny that there was
a British officer there on the night.
717
00:44:35,130 --> 00:44:36,215
He said...
718
00:44:37,549 --> 00:44:41,345
"He took some risk, that Brit."
That's what he said to me.
719
00:44:43,138 --> 00:44:45,307
But there's been a name
bandied around all the time.
720
00:44:46,809 --> 00:44:50,479
In 1987, in the British Parliament,
721
00:44:50,562 --> 00:44:54,441
the identity of the officer
was being discussed.
722
00:44:54,775 --> 00:44:57,069
I'll read out what was said.
723
00:44:58,445 --> 00:44:59,279
I quote:
724
00:45:00,197 --> 00:45:03,492
"It has begun to emerge
that Captain Robert Nairac
725
00:45:03,784 --> 00:45:07,496
is quite likely to have been the person
who organized the killing
726
00:45:07,579 --> 00:45:11,458
of the three Miami Showband musicians."
End of quote.
727
00:45:12,418 --> 00:45:14,128
Mr. Livingstone outraged MPs
728
00:45:14,211 --> 00:45:17,965
by making a series of unsubstantiated
claims about Northern Ireland.
729
00:45:18,048 --> 00:45:21,093
These included the allegation
that Captain Robert Nairac,
730
00:45:21,176 --> 00:45:24,263
who was killed by the IRA in 1977,
731
00:45:24,346 --> 00:45:26,932
may have organized a series of murders
in the province.
732
00:45:27,182 --> 00:45:29,101
Mr. Livingstone, what is the point
733
00:45:29,184 --> 00:45:31,687
of this gratuitous insult
to the memory of the dead?
734
00:45:33,772 --> 00:45:36,984
The more I got into politics,
the more I discovered about odd things
735
00:45:37,067 --> 00:45:39,236
that you didn't know so much about.
736
00:45:39,319 --> 00:45:42,239
A - what was really going on
in Northern Ireland.
737
00:45:42,781 --> 00:45:46,785
Some of the horrors that had been
carried out by British troops illegally.
738
00:45:49,913 --> 00:45:53,792
Nairac wasn't some mad psychopath
who enjoyed killing.
739
00:45:53,876 --> 00:45:57,045
He thought he was working
for Britain's long-term interest.
740
00:45:57,129 --> 00:45:59,423
-[man issuing instructions]
-[boots marching]
741
00:45:59,548 --> 00:46:01,884
[Cadwallader] Robert Nairac
was a member, we believe,
742
00:46:01,967 --> 00:46:03,927
of the 14th Intelligence Company,
743
00:46:04,011 --> 00:46:07,097
a shadowy British
counter-insurgency group.
744
00:46:07,890 --> 00:46:11,351
There are allegations that Nairac
was the owner of the British voice
745
00:46:11,435 --> 00:46:13,645
heard on the side of the road that night.
746
00:46:15,272 --> 00:46:17,024
He was seen with Jackson.
747
00:46:17,608 --> 00:46:22,488
He was seen with Harris Boyle,
killed at the scene of the Miami.
748
00:46:23,822 --> 00:46:25,657
Who knows what Robert Nairac was?
749
00:46:26,241 --> 00:46:29,328
When I met him,
he said he worked for the MI6 officer
750
00:46:29,411 --> 00:46:30,996
that I was working for.
751
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:32,998
I knew Robert Nairac.
752
00:46:33,582 --> 00:46:37,002
I think he's a person
who was so... enthusiastic,
753
00:46:37,085 --> 00:46:41,340
he could've been manipulated
by people in the intelligence community.
754
00:46:41,590 --> 00:46:44,426
He certainly lied to me
about what he was there for.
755
00:46:46,804 --> 00:46:49,807
As soon as he got information,
he would carry out operations which,
756
00:46:49,890 --> 00:46:52,851
we now believe, Colin and I,
were actually...
757
00:46:53,477 --> 00:46:57,689
to abuse that information and use it
in collusion with the terrorists.
758
00:46:59,358 --> 00:47:01,902
[reporter] Our information,
from associates of the gang,
759
00:47:01,985 --> 00:47:06,198
indicates that Captain Robert Nairac
of the British Army Special Air Services,
760
00:47:06,657 --> 00:47:08,534
played a key role in the Miami killings.
761
00:47:09,076 --> 00:47:13,163
Captain Nairac handed over the bomb
and the guns for the operation,
762
00:47:13,247 --> 00:47:16,959
in the deserted car park of
this cash and carry premises in Portadown.
763
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,087
And what I've not the slightest doubt
764
00:47:20,170 --> 00:47:23,006
is that if these allegations
about Captain Nairac are true,
765
00:47:23,090 --> 00:47:24,842
he was merely following orders.
766
00:47:24,925 --> 00:47:29,137
What we need to get to is those
highly placed spies within MI5
767
00:47:29,221 --> 00:47:32,224
who were prepared
to authorize missions like that.
768
00:47:32,307 --> 00:47:36,687
Prepared to actually see the innocent,
um, completely innocent people,
769
00:47:36,770 --> 00:47:39,273
like the Miami Showband musicians,
murdered.
770
00:47:39,356 --> 00:47:42,609
We are talking about treason
at the heart of the British state.
771
00:47:45,529 --> 00:47:47,239
I am the Right Honourable Michael Mates.
772
00:47:47,322 --> 00:47:49,992
I was a member of Parliament for 36 years,
773
00:47:50,325 --> 00:47:52,035
an Army officer for 20 years.
774
00:47:52,661 --> 00:47:56,331
[man] How long do you think
the people of Northern Ireland
775
00:47:56,415 --> 00:47:58,208
will be able to call themselves British?
776
00:47:59,376 --> 00:48:01,920
For as long as you and I are alive
and for as long as they want to.
777
00:48:02,129 --> 00:48:05,966
Towards the end of my time in the Army,
I did five tours in Northern Ireland.
778
00:48:06,675 --> 00:48:09,261
We were very nearly at war with these...
779
00:48:09,344 --> 00:48:13,807
We would've been at war
if it hadn't been on British territory.
780
00:48:14,099 --> 00:48:16,518
And this was what you got into
all the time,
781
00:48:16,602 --> 00:48:19,354
tit for tat killing here,
and tat for tit there,
782
00:48:19,438 --> 00:48:20,564
between the two communities.
783
00:48:21,148 --> 00:48:23,567
Some very nasty things were done
by both sides.
784
00:48:23,984 --> 00:48:25,277
And so it went on.
785
00:48:25,861 --> 00:48:28,322
And the poor old British Army
and Security Forces
786
00:48:28,405 --> 00:48:29,907
just had to try to hold the ring.
787
00:48:30,449 --> 00:48:31,408
You...
788
00:48:31,617 --> 00:48:35,370
were watching out more for an IRA atrocity
than you were for a Protes...
789
00:48:35,454 --> 00:48:36,955
for a UVF atrocity.
790
00:48:37,414 --> 00:48:40,292
[reporter] IRA gunmen continued
to fire sporadic shots.
791
00:48:40,375 --> 00:48:42,210
[volleys of gunfire]
792
00:48:42,294 --> 00:48:45,631
[man] At the present moment,
we are at war with the British Army.
793
00:48:46,048 --> 00:48:48,383
They symbolize something
in this country...
794
00:48:48,967 --> 00:48:50,844
that has been hated for centuries.
795
00:48:51,428 --> 00:48:53,388
It was the rule of...
796
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,641
British imperialism in Ireland.
797
00:48:56,558 --> 00:48:59,186
[Mates] British soldiers,
very soon they got to realize
798
00:48:59,269 --> 00:49:01,480
who the enemy was.
The enemy wasn't the Protestants.
799
00:49:01,563 --> 00:49:06,526
The Protestant extremists only very rarely
attacked the military, very rarely.
800
00:49:06,610 --> 00:49:08,904
And so, they thought, well,
801
00:49:08,987 --> 00:49:10,906
these guys may be pretty nasty,
802
00:49:11,281 --> 00:49:12,699
but we're on the same side.
803
00:49:13,909 --> 00:49:16,870
Well, the Provisional IRA
is the only enemy we have.
804
00:49:17,704 --> 00:49:19,247
Is it just the IRA?
805
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,459
Yes, the IRA:
806
00:49:22,542 --> 00:49:23,835
the gunman, and the bomber.
807
00:49:24,211 --> 00:49:28,924
Protestant terrorists were allowed
to operate relatively unhindered.
808
00:49:29,383 --> 00:49:32,970
They were working for the Security Forces
in eliminating...
809
00:49:33,845 --> 00:49:36,974
known or suspected, strongly suspected,
810
00:49:37,391 --> 00:49:38,850
IRA members.
811
00:49:40,435 --> 00:49:43,188
-And when I say Security Forces--
-Murdering them?
812
00:49:43,271 --> 00:49:44,648
Murdering them. Assassinating them.
813
00:49:46,316 --> 00:49:49,861
[Travers]
The British use locals against locals.
814
00:49:50,362 --> 00:49:52,572
They side with the one
they think is going to win.
815
00:49:52,656 --> 00:49:55,450
In this case, the Ulster Volunteer Force,
the UVF.
816
00:49:57,828 --> 00:50:00,163
And they use them to defeat the IRA.
817
00:50:01,331 --> 00:50:02,582
That's what the British do.
818
00:50:02,666 --> 00:50:05,043
That's how they built their empire
and held on to it.
819
00:50:05,127 --> 00:50:06,670
They've done it all over the world.
820
00:50:06,753 --> 00:50:08,630
[indistinct shouting]
821
00:50:08,714 --> 00:50:11,508
[Holroyd] The British Army,
under political instruction,
822
00:50:11,591 --> 00:50:15,012
started carrying out tactics
which obviously
823
00:50:15,095 --> 00:50:17,305
were excessive and unlawful.
824
00:50:19,641 --> 00:50:21,560
I realize that, in fact,
825
00:50:21,643 --> 00:50:24,688
they were deemed lawful
by the authorities.
826
00:50:24,771 --> 00:50:27,649
By my own authorities,
by my own politicians,
827
00:50:27,733 --> 00:50:29,317
and it came right down from the top.
828
00:50:30,652 --> 00:50:33,739
[Holroyd]
Colin Wallace and I wrote to Mrs. Thatcher
829
00:50:33,822 --> 00:50:36,825
and sent her a 32-page letter,
830
00:50:36,908 --> 00:50:41,371
a list of operations that were unlawful
in Northern Ireland.
831
00:50:42,330 --> 00:50:44,249
And none of that information was used.
832
00:50:44,666 --> 00:50:46,877
The actions of the people
who were involved in it
833
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,086
were allowed to carry on.
834
00:50:48,962 --> 00:50:50,922
[Thatcher] The government
have repeatedly declared
835
00:50:51,006 --> 00:50:53,675
that Northern Ireland is
part of the United Kingdom,
836
00:50:54,468 --> 00:50:56,094
and will remain so,
837
00:50:56,678 --> 00:51:01,475
unless its people and the Parliament
at Westminster decide otherwise.
838
00:51:02,184 --> 00:51:05,937
And she should've taken action,
and she didn't take action,
839
00:51:06,021 --> 00:51:08,148
and then denied
that she'd seen the documents.
840
00:51:08,857 --> 00:51:12,319
[Livingstone] When I raised the issue
of the Miami Showband in Parliament,
841
00:51:12,402 --> 00:51:13,945
there was this bizarre moment.
842
00:51:14,029 --> 00:51:16,198
Because Mrs. Thatcher
was totally predominant.
843
00:51:16,281 --> 00:51:18,033
She stood there like a pillar.
844
00:51:18,116 --> 00:51:21,745
She sort of glared everybody down.
[chuckles] They were questioning her.
845
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,956
And she wouldn't look in my face.
She seemed hunched.
846
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,835
I just knew, clearly this was something
she felt vulnerable about.
847
00:51:29,169 --> 00:51:32,464
Mrs. Thatcher's doing everything possible
to prevent that investigation
848
00:51:32,547 --> 00:51:35,759
and no democracy can have
these sort of allegations made
849
00:51:35,842 --> 00:51:38,345
and refuse to investigate them openly.
850
00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:41,473
[Travers] The more evidence I saw,
851
00:51:41,556 --> 00:51:44,184
I had to realize
that the British government,
852
00:51:44,976 --> 00:51:46,478
through its proxy Army,
853
00:51:46,728 --> 00:51:49,981
they chose us as innocent victims,
854
00:51:50,065 --> 00:51:54,069
to murder us so that they could
achieve their political aim.
855
00:51:56,530 --> 00:52:01,034
We were targeted
because the British authorities
856
00:52:01,785 --> 00:52:06,957
wanted the Irish government
to seal the border with the North...
857
00:52:09,751 --> 00:52:13,088
so that the IRA,
having committed some sort of atrocity,
858
00:52:13,171 --> 00:52:16,299
couldn't cross easily
into the relative safety of the South.
859
00:52:18,135 --> 00:52:24,724
So they decided, "Let's frame
the most innocent and trusted commuters."
860
00:52:25,350 --> 00:52:27,686
People who traveled up and down.
861
00:52:29,020 --> 00:52:31,273
And we would have gone down in history
862
00:52:31,690 --> 00:52:35,318
as terrorists carrying bombs for the IRA.
863
00:52:38,363 --> 00:52:40,782
When a government decides...
864
00:52:42,367 --> 00:52:44,619
to murder its own citizens,
865
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,832
and to murder the citizens
of its closest neighbor,
866
00:52:48,915 --> 00:52:52,961
there's no way that you can excuse that.
There are no mitigating circumstances.
867
00:52:53,044 --> 00:52:57,340
That you can choose somebody.
"Let's murder him for the greater good."
868
00:52:57,424 --> 00:52:59,676
Now, they would argue, these people,
869
00:52:59,759 --> 00:53:01,761
that they're doing this
for the good of the country.
870
00:53:01,845 --> 00:53:03,513
And they probably are!
871
00:53:03,597 --> 00:53:06,933
That's the irony. But it's not democracy.
872
00:53:07,767 --> 00:53:09,352
They want it both ways.
873
00:53:09,644 --> 00:53:12,230
They want to out-terror the terrorists,
874
00:53:12,731 --> 00:53:15,275
and equally claim
that they're law-abiding.
875
00:53:19,446 --> 00:53:22,324
I objected to that
and made my objections known.
876
00:53:22,574 --> 00:53:24,242
I had become an embarrassment.
877
00:53:24,326 --> 00:53:27,495
I'd have to be replaced rapidly
and got out the way before I stumble over
878
00:53:27,579 --> 00:53:28,914
any more than I already knew.
879
00:53:28,997 --> 00:53:30,540
As a result of that,
880
00:53:30,832 --> 00:53:34,252
I was removed from Ireland
in a particularly unpleasant way.
881
00:53:35,962 --> 00:53:39,049
They took me straight to Netley,
which is, um,
882
00:53:39,132 --> 00:53:42,260
a notorious Army psychiatric hospital.
883
00:53:43,637 --> 00:53:45,472
Well, they kept me
in the hospital unlawfully,
884
00:53:45,555 --> 00:53:46,890
uh, for a month.
885
00:53:46,973 --> 00:53:49,809
More importantly, and here
we link to Colin Wallace's case,
886
00:53:49,893 --> 00:53:51,394
I had to be discredited
887
00:53:51,478 --> 00:53:55,023
so that whatever I said would not
be believed, no matter how valid.
888
00:53:55,607 --> 00:53:58,485
[reporter] Both Holroyd and Wallace
each left under a shadow.
889
00:53:59,736 --> 00:54:03,865
I was being misused
by the authorities, knowingly,
890
00:54:04,157 --> 00:54:06,326
who then basically didn't want to admit
891
00:54:06,409 --> 00:54:08,787
that they were actually authorizing
such activity.
892
00:54:09,871 --> 00:54:13,708
My removal from Northern Ireland,
my disciplinary hearing,
893
00:54:14,125 --> 00:54:15,502
were both rigged.
894
00:54:16,002 --> 00:54:18,505
That was followed, then,
by a murder charge.
895
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,924
Uh, a colleague of mine disappeared
896
00:54:21,675 --> 00:54:24,177
and his body was found
floating in a river.
897
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,681
The pathologist said
he'd found an injury to the nose
898
00:54:27,764 --> 00:54:30,642
that'd been caused
by a martial arts-type blow,
899
00:54:31,351 --> 00:54:33,395
i.e., someone with military training.
900
00:54:34,312 --> 00:54:37,482
Eventually, I was convicted
and sentenced to ten years.
901
00:54:37,816 --> 00:54:40,277
[man] The case against Wallace
was extremely weak.
902
00:54:40,735 --> 00:54:42,737
The only evidence was circumstantial.
903
00:54:42,988 --> 00:54:44,823
I had absolutely no doubt
904
00:54:44,906 --> 00:54:47,993
that Colin Wallace was innocent
of manslaughter.
905
00:54:48,285 --> 00:54:52,622
I actually believe
that Wallace was framed.
906
00:54:54,791 --> 00:54:55,875
[man] Framed by whom?
907
00:54:56,626 --> 00:55:01,256
Uh, I think by the intelligence services
in this country.
908
00:55:02,007 --> 00:55:04,509
There's no point
in shooting the messenger,
909
00:55:04,592 --> 00:55:05,969
you discredit the messenger.
910
00:55:06,303 --> 00:55:10,098
If you shoot the messenger,
then that raises eyebrows and questions.
911
00:55:12,726 --> 00:55:14,394
The message in this is
912
00:55:14,477 --> 00:55:17,981
to people who are thinking
of blowing a whistle, don't.
913
00:55:19,816 --> 00:55:21,693
The system, to protect itself,
914
00:55:22,444 --> 00:55:25,697
will go to great lengths
to destroy anybody
915
00:55:26,281 --> 00:55:28,992
who alleges misuse of power.
916
00:55:29,075 --> 00:55:33,621
To be used as just pawns
in their political game,
917
00:55:33,913 --> 00:55:35,540
I felt ashamed.
918
00:55:39,461 --> 00:55:42,797
Because I had such respect
for the British people,
919
00:55:42,881 --> 00:55:46,968
I felt in some way almost
like betraying things that I loved.
920
00:55:52,307 --> 00:55:56,394
It's just that the weight can become
so heavy that you...
921
00:55:56,936 --> 00:55:58,271
you can't function.
922
00:55:59,230 --> 00:56:02,442
There's so many times that I wake up
in the morning and I...
923
00:56:03,234 --> 00:56:05,362
I'm really sorry that I'm awake.
924
00:56:06,571 --> 00:56:09,157
I've recently been diagnosed
925
00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:12,035
with a thing called
enduring personality change.
926
00:56:12,118 --> 00:56:13,578
Something I had never heard of.
927
00:56:14,662 --> 00:56:17,624
You enter...an event...
928
00:56:18,375 --> 00:56:19,542
and, uh...
929
00:56:20,293 --> 00:56:22,545
you come out
the other side of that event, um,
930
00:56:22,629 --> 00:56:24,464
a completely different person.
931
00:56:25,757 --> 00:56:31,346
I was this cocky, confident musician.
932
00:56:31,763 --> 00:56:32,764
I was...
933
00:56:33,681 --> 00:56:35,433
I was very happy with my life.
934
00:56:35,517 --> 00:56:37,394
My wife is very happy with her life.
935
00:56:37,936 --> 00:56:39,979
We're very happy together and...
936
00:56:41,648 --> 00:56:43,942
all of a sudden,
this thing happens.
937
00:56:44,025 --> 00:56:47,487
And I remember asking my wife Anne,
938
00:56:47,570 --> 00:56:51,950
"Did I actually change after that?"
And she told me, "It was...
939
00:56:52,534 --> 00:56:55,203
like learning to live with another person.
940
00:56:55,453 --> 00:56:58,706
And, by default,
learning to love another person."
941
00:57:04,045 --> 00:57:06,464
The only thing I was ever good at
in my life, ever,
942
00:57:06,548 --> 00:57:08,800
was playing this instrument.
943
00:57:09,384 --> 00:57:11,511
It was the only thing that I could...
944
00:57:12,095 --> 00:57:14,597
I could do without even worrying,
without thinking about it.
945
00:57:14,681 --> 00:57:17,851
I mean, I didn't even have to rehearse.
It was one of those things.
946
00:57:17,934 --> 00:57:19,394
And that was gone.
947
00:57:19,686 --> 00:57:21,354
And I felt for a long time afterwards
948
00:57:21,438 --> 00:57:24,941
that there is nothing else in this world
that I can contribute.
949
00:57:29,195 --> 00:57:31,906
And I realized that this person was...
950
00:57:33,283 --> 00:57:39,456
left back in a field, uh,
on the 31st of... July in 1975.
951
00:57:51,009 --> 00:57:52,469
[phone ringing tone]
952
00:57:52,552 --> 00:57:54,220
In 2006,
953
00:57:54,304 --> 00:57:57,724
I got a phone call from a policeman
called James O'Neill.
954
00:57:58,433 --> 00:58:02,729
James O'Neill was
the scene-of-crime officer at our event.
955
00:58:03,188 --> 00:58:06,149
He was called out to collect
the evidence on the morning.
956
00:58:07,484 --> 00:58:11,154
When I met James afterwards,
his notes were immaculate.
957
00:58:11,488 --> 00:58:13,323
He was obviously very professional.
958
00:58:14,616 --> 00:58:16,117
But he also brought along...
959
00:58:16,659 --> 00:58:18,244
the autopsy pictures.
960
00:58:18,620 --> 00:58:22,415
James said, "I've got these pictures
that are not easy to look at."
961
00:58:24,042 --> 00:58:26,836
And I said, "Well, I'm prepared
to look at them."
962
00:58:27,253 --> 00:58:28,505
And they were horrific.
963
00:58:28,588 --> 00:58:32,967
Uh, there was pictures
of the lads... in the morgue.
964
00:58:33,968 --> 00:58:37,639
Very badly injured. I mean... terrible.
965
00:58:38,765 --> 00:58:40,183
After the incident,
966
00:58:40,475 --> 00:58:42,644
I had blocked all of that out of my mind.
967
00:58:44,938 --> 00:58:47,398
And I realized that up until then,
968
00:58:47,690 --> 00:58:49,817
I didn't accept that they were dead.
969
00:58:50,735 --> 00:58:53,029
I thought somehow or other,
this was just a bad dream.
970
00:58:53,112 --> 00:58:53,947
It was a mistake.
971
00:58:54,572 --> 00:58:56,491
Even all those years afterwards.
972
00:58:56,866 --> 00:58:58,326
To me, Tony wasn't dead.
973
00:58:59,744 --> 00:59:02,539
Nobody could kill Fran O'Toole,
he was too big a star.
974
00:59:02,622 --> 00:59:05,250
Brian McCoy, he's probably off
with his family.
975
00:59:05,333 --> 00:59:08,086
In the back of my head,
this wasn't rational.
976
00:59:09,045 --> 00:59:10,672
When you have to look at them like that...
977
00:59:12,173 --> 00:59:13,258
I knew they were dead.
978
00:59:14,467 --> 00:59:16,386
And there was a time when I thought...
979
00:59:18,471 --> 00:59:20,056
"Perhaps I'm actually dead...
980
00:59:21,891 --> 00:59:24,060
and that I won't accept my own death."
981
00:59:26,062 --> 00:59:28,982
That's a question that comes up
now and again, yeah.
982
00:59:29,774 --> 00:59:32,402
I was relieved
that I wasn't in those photographs.
983
00:59:32,777 --> 00:59:34,779
It was an impetus in some way...
984
00:59:35,029 --> 00:59:38,366
to resolve these things,
this pain that's inside you.
985
00:59:39,033 --> 00:59:40,535
You can't unless you...
986
00:59:40,618 --> 00:59:43,329
unless you take these steps,
and that was a giant step.
987
00:59:46,124 --> 00:59:48,960
It was confirmation that our investigation
988
00:59:49,043 --> 00:59:51,504
was the right thing to do,
and to move forward with it
989
00:59:51,588 --> 00:59:53,923
with even more determination.
990
00:59:56,092 --> 00:59:59,053
It was British terrorism in Ireland
991
00:59:59,137 --> 01:00:00,972
that dragged me into this narrative.
992
01:00:01,347 --> 01:00:03,057
And I'll see it to the finish.
993
01:00:04,684 --> 01:00:07,061
I want this superpower to know
that they've been in a fight,
994
01:00:08,229 --> 01:00:09,772
because I won't back down.
995
01:00:12,942 --> 01:00:15,820
They murdered my friends.
They left me for dead.
996
01:00:16,362 --> 01:00:20,283
They tried to frame me
and my entire family as terrorists.
997
01:00:24,329 --> 01:00:26,956
I have woken up.
I will beat them for this.
998
01:00:29,417 --> 01:00:33,546
We've, uh, got a court case
against the MOD,
999
01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:35,048
the British Ministry of Defense.
1000
01:00:36,299 --> 01:00:38,760
I want Britain to acknowledge its crime.
1001
01:00:39,010 --> 01:00:42,680
I want it to say
that this will never happen again.
1002
01:00:43,848 --> 01:00:46,809
Stephen and I work together a lot
1003
01:00:47,518 --> 01:00:49,479
with the court case in Belfast
at the moment,
1004
01:00:49,562 --> 01:00:50,688
in the High Court.
1005
01:00:51,481 --> 01:00:53,483
It's just appalling
1006
01:00:54,025 --> 01:01:00,406
that the authorities involved
have left us waiting over 42 years...
1007
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:02,492
to get justice.
1008
01:01:03,451 --> 01:01:05,495
They've tried every dirty trick
in the book.
1009
01:01:07,163 --> 01:01:09,165
They delayed and prevaricated.
1010
01:01:10,166 --> 01:01:12,627
We had what they call "general discovery."
1011
01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:15,171
They swamped us with documents.
1012
01:01:16,589 --> 01:01:19,509
All sorts of skulduggery
that they come up with.
1013
01:01:20,218 --> 01:01:23,221
But that, in a way,
makes us even more determined.
1014
01:01:24,180 --> 01:01:26,140
[Pat Kenny]
Steve Travers, one of the survivors
1015
01:01:26,224 --> 01:01:29,352
of the Miami Showband massacre,
is with me in studio.
1016
01:01:29,435 --> 01:01:31,521
-Welcome to the program.
-[Travers] Thank you, Pat.
1017
01:01:31,604 --> 01:01:35,066
We've been fighting and fighting
for what they call "discovery."
1018
01:01:35,525 --> 01:01:37,527
In August, I think it was the 30th,
1019
01:01:37,610 --> 01:01:42,532
the judge granted us 82 of 84 documents.
1020
01:01:43,866 --> 01:01:48,329
[Pat Kenny] Meantime, you get
information from the Irish government,
1021
01:01:48,871 --> 01:01:50,248
which is quite extraordinary.
1022
01:01:50,623 --> 01:01:55,336
[Travers] I've just received this letter.
It's from the Ulster Volunteer Force.
1023
01:01:55,753 --> 01:01:59,382
There is a letter that has been
in possession of the Irish government
1024
01:01:59,465 --> 01:02:01,092
for the past 30 years,
1025
01:02:01,175 --> 01:02:05,263
from the UVF, telling the Irish government
1026
01:02:05,346 --> 01:02:09,225
that MI5 had asked the UVF
1027
01:02:09,308 --> 01:02:11,811
if they would assassinate Charlie Haughey.
1028
01:02:13,020 --> 01:02:15,815
They were telling our government
about this
1029
01:02:15,898 --> 01:02:18,067
because they wanted to let them know
1030
01:02:18,151 --> 01:02:20,445
that they didn't want any hand,
act or part in it.
1031
01:02:20,903 --> 01:02:24,365
It's on headed paper.
I didn't know they used headed paper,
1032
01:02:24,449 --> 01:02:25,992
but apparently they did.
1033
01:02:26,284 --> 01:02:29,412
It's dated the fifth of the eighth, '87.
1034
01:02:29,954 --> 01:02:35,835
And it says, "Colin Wallace, Fred Holroyd
were telling the truth when they revealed
1035
01:02:35,918 --> 01:02:39,630
that British intelligence were behind
killings, kidnappings..."
1036
01:02:39,964 --> 01:02:46,929
This was a letter complaining
about the treatment of the UVF by MI5,
1037
01:02:47,013 --> 01:02:49,515
who they admit in the letter
that they were working with.
1038
01:02:51,809 --> 01:02:54,812
They had been given faulty detonators,
1039
01:02:55,104 --> 01:02:58,816
faulty bombs, by MI5.
1040
01:02:59,817 --> 01:03:04,113
And they say, "as in the case
of the Miami Showband."
1041
01:03:08,576 --> 01:03:13,831
Something as fundamental as this
could have given us closure 30 years ago.
1042
01:03:42,777 --> 01:03:44,570
-Good to see you, Winston.
-How you doing, Stephen?
1043
01:03:44,654 --> 01:03:47,031
-Very well, thank you. And you?
-I'm good, thanks.
1044
01:03:47,114 --> 01:03:48,032
[Winston sighs]
1045
01:03:52,078 --> 01:03:55,164
There was a context to what happened,
1046
01:03:55,581 --> 01:03:58,709
um, with the Miami Showband attack.
1047
01:03:59,126 --> 01:04:00,586
Um, it is my understanding,
1048
01:04:01,295 --> 01:04:05,341
as someone close to the thinking
of the Ulster Volunteer Force,
1049
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:06,968
uh, that...
1050
01:04:07,593 --> 01:04:12,890
there was absolutely no intention,
on behalf of that UVF operation,
1051
01:04:13,224 --> 01:04:16,435
to kill members of the Miami Showband.
1052
01:04:17,687 --> 01:04:20,022
You know, Winston,
that I wouldn't accept that.
1053
01:04:20,106 --> 01:04:22,900
The facts just completely go against that.
1054
01:04:24,193 --> 01:04:27,321
But I don't think it's, uh,
1055
01:04:27,405 --> 01:04:29,699
it's helpful for us to argue...
1056
01:04:29,782 --> 01:04:31,784
-No, indeed.
-...over the semantics of these things.
1057
01:04:31,909 --> 01:04:32,827
Um...
1058
01:04:33,327 --> 01:04:36,080
The entire thing was a disaster.
1059
01:04:36,539 --> 01:04:40,960
One of those impediments
to healing and to reconciliation
1060
01:04:41,043 --> 01:04:44,630
is the fact that, uh,
responsibility is not accepted
1061
01:04:44,714 --> 01:04:50,344
by either the loyalist paramilitaries,
republican paramilitaries, or the state.
1062
01:04:50,511 --> 01:04:53,472
So, it's good that we can
sit down here together,
1063
01:04:53,556 --> 01:04:56,100
and you can put forward your point of view
and that I can tell you
1064
01:04:56,183 --> 01:04:57,894
that I completely disagree with it.
1065
01:04:57,977 --> 01:05:01,480
And, yes, we don't stand up
and storm out of the room
1066
01:05:01,564 --> 01:05:05,192
and say that we can't
make something good of this.
1067
01:05:05,484 --> 01:05:10,948
Yeah, I think that's important, and
we need to ensure that events of the past
1068
01:05:11,616 --> 01:05:14,911
doesn't become part
of the politics of the future.
1069
01:05:16,954 --> 01:05:20,291
And I think this simple message
that needs to go out,
1070
01:05:20,917 --> 01:05:24,003
uh, that there should be never again
any more victims.
1071
01:05:25,087 --> 01:05:27,298
That's very encouraging
to hear that.
1072
01:05:27,965 --> 01:05:30,635
Uh, I would hope that this would be
1073
01:05:31,052 --> 01:05:35,723
the beginning of a process
rather than simply an event.
1074
01:05:35,806 --> 01:05:37,141
Yes, absolutely.
1075
01:05:37,224 --> 01:05:41,520
And one that has
a much wider participation.
1076
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,233
[Travers] It is significant
1077
01:05:46,317 --> 01:05:49,946
that the people who were responsible
for that awful atrocity
1078
01:05:50,029 --> 01:05:51,656
have sat here with us
1079
01:05:52,031 --> 01:05:55,534
and pledged to try to rectify things.
1080
01:05:56,327 --> 01:05:59,830
And the fact that
he's gone on record on camera
1081
01:06:00,247 --> 01:06:03,584
on behalf of the organization,
that's huge.
1082
01:06:07,254 --> 01:06:10,132
With regard to what type of justice
we actually...
1083
01:06:10,216 --> 01:06:12,009
I would like to see truth.
1084
01:06:12,843 --> 01:06:16,847
And if there is an amnesty,
I'd personally agree with, uh,
1085
01:06:16,931 --> 01:06:20,685
a conditional amnesty,
if people stood up and told the truth.
1086
01:06:21,435 --> 01:06:23,312
The real leaders that you need here
1087
01:06:23,521 --> 01:06:28,776
are the ones who will hold both atrocities
up and say, "There is nobody here
1088
01:06:28,859 --> 01:06:31,237
that has a monopoly on suffering or loss,
1089
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,448
and there is nobody here
that has a monopoly on the skulduggery
1090
01:06:34,532 --> 01:06:36,534
that went on over the last 40 years."
1091
01:06:37,576 --> 01:06:41,247
[applause]
1092
01:06:43,916 --> 01:06:47,545
I don't think I have a purpose
to live for, other than this.
1093
01:06:47,628 --> 01:06:52,216
I wouldn't, if I had admitted that
a couple of years ago. It's defined me.
1094
01:06:55,094 --> 01:06:58,806
Perhaps in some way,
we can make a difference.
1095
01:07:00,474 --> 01:07:03,227
Anything like that
gives me a sense of worth.
1096
01:07:04,228 --> 01:07:05,604
[exhales]
1097
01:07:06,313 --> 01:07:08,232
Uh, might get me out of the field.
1098
01:07:24,874 --> 01:07:25,958
[clears throat]
1099
01:07:26,375 --> 01:07:29,086
♪ Of all the money ♪
1100
01:07:29,378 --> 01:07:31,714
♪ That e'er I had ♪
1101
01:07:32,506 --> 01:07:36,886
♪ I spent it in good company ♪
1102
01:07:38,054 --> 01:07:43,684
♪ And all I've done for want of wit ♪
1103
01:07:44,060 --> 01:07:49,774
♪ To memory now, I can't recall ♪
1104
01:07:50,066 --> 01:07:56,197
♪ So fill to me the parting glass ♪
1105
01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:02,828
♪ Good night and joy be with you all ♪
1106
01:08:02,912 --> 01:08:03,788
[man] Stephen...
1107
01:08:04,246 --> 01:08:06,248
[playing bass solo]
1108
01:08:08,959 --> 01:08:13,380
[Travers] I never, ever wanted to be
anything other than a bass player.
1109
01:08:13,839 --> 01:08:14,799
That's it.
1110
01:08:15,883 --> 01:08:19,720
When I play music today,
I can be the person that I was.
1111
01:08:21,055 --> 01:08:22,223
Because, um...
1112
01:08:23,182 --> 01:08:27,603
it's the one thing
that I had then that I still have.
1113
01:08:28,020 --> 01:08:31,690
♪ Well, of all the comrades
That e'er I've had ♪
1114
01:08:31,899 --> 01:08:35,736
Music is the common language.
It's something appreciated and loved.
1115
01:08:36,278 --> 01:08:38,614
by everybody, regardless of what their....
1116
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,034
political, religious views are. Whatever.
1117
01:08:42,118 --> 01:08:42,993
[cheering]
1118
01:08:43,077 --> 01:08:45,079
We were bringing communities together.
1119
01:08:45,663 --> 01:08:48,582
When we played,
sectarianism was left outside the door.
1120
01:08:48,666 --> 01:08:49,917
That's the power of music.
1121
01:08:50,793 --> 01:08:54,338
The people who do these type of things,
they're afraid of beauty.
1122
01:08:54,421 --> 01:08:57,967
They're afraid of all the goodness
that's in society.
1123
01:09:01,887 --> 01:09:05,766
The sound of the music will far outlast
1124
01:09:05,850 --> 01:09:07,852
the sound of their guns and their bombs.
1125
01:09:10,980 --> 01:09:16,193
[all]
♪ Then fill to me the parting glass ♪
1126
01:09:16,527 --> 01:09:19,572
♪ Good night and joy ♪
1127
01:09:19,655 --> 01:09:24,285
♪ Be with you all! ♪
1128
01:09:24,368 --> 01:09:27,413
[crowd cheering]