1 00:00:01,141 --> 00:00:02,941 WOMAN ON PHONE: Hello? Police Emergency. What's your emergency? 2 00:00:12,941 --> 00:00:13,901 (KNOCKING) 3 00:00:17,141 --> 00:00:18,861 Is it possible to get away with murder? 4 00:00:19,941 --> 00:00:21,581 What does a killer do 5 00:00:21,661 --> 00:00:24,261 after committing the most heinous of crimes? 6 00:00:24,341 --> 00:00:26,301 It's absolutely horrific. 7 00:00:26,381 --> 00:00:29,541 The murderer spent so much time in the address. 8 00:00:29,621 --> 00:00:31,421 Do they carry on as normal 9 00:00:31,501 --> 00:00:33,261 and hide in plain sight? 10 00:00:33,341 --> 00:00:34,781 Or go on the run? 11 00:00:36,181 --> 00:00:37,741 WOMAN: Forensics officers 12 00:00:37,821 --> 00:00:41,861 were continuing to examine the house and nearby area. 13 00:00:41,941 --> 00:00:45,261 How do the actions of a killer, after their crime, 14 00:00:45,341 --> 00:00:47,661 influence the police investigation. 15 00:00:47,741 --> 00:00:49,621 The offender could cover their tracks. 16 00:00:49,701 --> 00:00:52,061 His intention was to destroy the crime scene. 17 00:00:52,141 --> 00:00:54,461 By focusing on the aftermath, 18 00:00:54,541 --> 00:00:56,781 we unpick the mindset of a killer... 19 00:00:58,941 --> 00:01:00,981 ..understand the motive 20 00:01:01,061 --> 00:01:02,781 and reveal 21 00:01:02,861 --> 00:01:04,541 what the killer did next. 22 00:01:14,461 --> 00:01:15,621 (BIRDS CHIRP) 23 00:01:24,701 --> 00:01:27,261 79-year-old Norma Bell 24 00:01:27,341 --> 00:01:32,181 set up home with husband John in this red-brick terrace house 30 years ago. 25 00:01:33,261 --> 00:01:37,421 After his death in 2010, she remained in the home 26 00:01:37,501 --> 00:01:41,341 where she'd raised her three children and cared for many others. 27 00:01:41,421 --> 00:01:43,101 She'd fostered 50 children 28 00:01:43,181 --> 00:01:46,541 over the time that her and her husband, John, were foster parents. 29 00:01:46,621 --> 00:01:49,541 So she was a remarkable woman who looked after all these kids 30 00:01:49,621 --> 00:01:51,941 and gave them the best start that she could in life. 31 00:01:52,981 --> 00:01:56,941 Norma and her husband, John, bought the house after we moved in. 32 00:01:57,021 --> 00:01:59,101 Met some of her kids then, was friends with her kids, 33 00:01:59,181 --> 00:02:01,101 still friends with some of them now. 34 00:02:02,701 --> 00:02:04,221 She was just always pleasant. 35 00:02:04,301 --> 00:02:05,821 Didn't mess about with her. 36 00:02:05,901 --> 00:02:07,421 She was firm but fair 37 00:02:07,501 --> 00:02:09,661 and just genuinely a lovely lady. 38 00:02:09,741 --> 00:02:12,221 Norma was well liked in the community 39 00:02:12,301 --> 00:02:16,061 and known as someone who always had time for a friendly chat 40 00:02:16,141 --> 00:02:18,301 and would open her door to anyone. 41 00:02:18,381 --> 00:02:19,981 But it seemed this friendliness 42 00:02:20,061 --> 00:02:23,901 would ultimately lead to Norma's untimely and horrific death. 43 00:02:25,741 --> 00:02:26,941 What shocked the community the most 44 00:02:27,021 --> 00:02:28,581 was that it actually happened on their doorstep 45 00:02:28,661 --> 00:02:30,421 to somebody who they all knew, somebody they loved. 46 00:02:35,021 --> 00:02:38,021 This was the day PCSO Graeme Handley 47 00:02:38,101 --> 00:02:41,701 decided to do his rounds of neighbour visits to residents in the community. 48 00:02:42,861 --> 00:02:45,221 Hello! You alright? 49 00:02:47,301 --> 00:02:50,501 On the Saturday morning, when I got up to Norma's address here, 50 00:02:50,581 --> 00:02:52,221 her relatives were just pulling up in a car outside. 51 00:02:52,301 --> 00:02:54,341 Told me, "Well, can you have a word with me mam? 52 00:02:54,421 --> 00:02:56,181 She always leaves the door open behind her. 53 00:02:56,261 --> 00:02:57,581 She always opens it to people," 54 00:02:57,661 --> 00:03:00,101 at which point Norma's come to the door. 55 00:03:00,181 --> 00:03:01,981 I've had a conversation with her regarding, 56 00:03:02,061 --> 00:03:04,661 "Don't leave your door open, don't answer it to strangers. 57 00:03:04,741 --> 00:03:08,261 Make sure you know who they are before you open the door." 58 00:03:08,341 --> 00:03:10,861 But it appears Norma didn't heed the warning. 59 00:03:46,181 --> 00:03:48,741 (SIREN WAILS) 60 00:03:53,101 --> 00:03:57,421 Natalie Wing from Cleveland Police was just starting her shift. 61 00:03:58,861 --> 00:04:01,821 On Sunday 3 April 2016, 62 00:04:01,901 --> 00:04:02,941 I was at work 63 00:04:03,021 --> 00:04:06,181 and got a call to say that there'd been a report of a fire 64 00:04:06,261 --> 00:04:08,101 at an address in Hartlepool. 65 00:04:09,181 --> 00:04:12,421 So at that point, my team made our way to the scene. 66 00:04:12,501 --> 00:04:13,621 (SIREN WAILS) 67 00:04:13,701 --> 00:04:15,901 Emergency services respond to the call 68 00:04:15,981 --> 00:04:19,181 and head to the home of 79-year-old Norma Bell. 69 00:04:20,381 --> 00:04:23,581 But it seems as though the first responders are, on this occasion, 70 00:04:23,661 --> 00:04:25,261 a little too late. 71 00:04:26,981 --> 00:04:30,501 They found a deceased female in the address, who'd been brought outside. 72 00:04:34,061 --> 00:04:38,181 It was made clear to me at that time that that was a suspicious fire, 73 00:04:38,261 --> 00:04:41,981 as the female had a ligature tied around her neck. 74 00:04:44,981 --> 00:04:47,021 Norma was dead before the fire started. 75 00:04:49,661 --> 00:04:51,141 A fire started, 76 00:04:51,221 --> 00:04:53,581 a woman's body found, 77 00:04:53,661 --> 00:04:56,021 a ligature around her neck. 78 00:04:56,101 --> 00:04:59,421 This isn't an accident - this is a murder. 79 00:05:01,701 --> 00:05:03,421 The news filters through the community. 80 00:05:06,901 --> 00:05:08,381 WOMAN: Police have revealed 81 00:05:08,461 --> 00:05:10,461 that an elderly woman discovered in a Hartlepool house fire 82 00:05:10,541 --> 00:05:11,741 had been murdered. 83 00:05:11,821 --> 00:05:15,901 The victim has been named as 79-year-old Norma Bell. 84 00:05:18,101 --> 00:05:21,261 It's such a horrific crime. 85 00:05:21,341 --> 00:05:24,541 It's not the sort of thing that we cover all the time, by any means. 86 00:05:24,621 --> 00:05:26,941 It was a really rare event. 87 00:05:27,021 --> 00:05:31,581 An investigation begins and immediately, police have a clue. 88 00:05:31,661 --> 00:05:33,621 Norma's trousers had been pulled down 89 00:05:33,701 --> 00:05:38,821 and her tights and her knickers had been sort of cut from her... 90 00:05:38,901 --> 00:05:41,621 from her naval, sort of, down to her crutch. 91 00:05:42,701 --> 00:05:45,301 Was there a sexual motive to this murder? 92 00:05:45,381 --> 00:05:48,901 The discovery sends shockwaves through the community. 93 00:05:48,981 --> 00:05:51,381 Personally, I'd describe it as horrific. 94 00:05:51,461 --> 00:05:54,221 How anybody could do something like that to a little old lady, 95 00:05:54,301 --> 00:05:58,701 somebody's grandmother, is beyond me, to be honest. 96 00:05:58,781 --> 00:06:02,581 The murder investigation gathers pace. 97 00:06:02,661 --> 00:06:05,141 The golden hour of opportunity 98 00:06:05,221 --> 00:06:08,141 for police to collect vital evidence begins. 99 00:06:08,221 --> 00:06:10,501 But a killer is still free. 100 00:06:10,581 --> 00:06:12,781 Are they living a normal life? 101 00:06:12,861 --> 00:06:15,101 Are they covering their tracks? 102 00:06:15,181 --> 00:06:18,781 Or are they panicking as the net closes in around them? 103 00:06:24,461 --> 00:06:26,861 What does a killer do next? 104 00:06:28,541 --> 00:06:30,781 You're doing the investigation to catch a killer 105 00:06:30,861 --> 00:06:32,941 but you very firmly feel 106 00:06:33,021 --> 00:06:35,421 that you're doing the investigation on behalf of the family 107 00:06:35,501 --> 00:06:38,821 who need to know that their mother's killer will be caught. 108 00:06:47,741 --> 00:06:51,301 Norma's burned-out house has been made safe and is being forensically 109 00:06:51,381 --> 00:06:55,141 examined by scene-of-crime officers desperate for any evidence 110 00:06:55,221 --> 00:06:57,061 which might reveal crucial clues. 111 00:07:01,461 --> 00:07:04,381 So, one of my priorities when we actually go in there 112 00:07:04,461 --> 00:07:06,701 is identifying things that stand out 113 00:07:06,781 --> 00:07:08,861 as potentially being fast-track items 114 00:07:08,941 --> 00:07:12,061 that we can send away to get a result, 115 00:07:12,141 --> 00:07:15,661 to actually see if we can identify an offender from that address. 116 00:07:18,701 --> 00:07:21,021 The results of the post-mortem come in 117 00:07:21,101 --> 00:07:24,461 and turn the focus of the investigation on its head. 118 00:07:27,181 --> 00:07:32,101 There was no evidence of any sexual assault and no trace of any semen. 119 00:07:32,181 --> 00:07:34,301 The attacker might have thought about a sexual assault 120 00:07:34,381 --> 00:07:36,701 but might not have gone through with it. 121 00:07:36,781 --> 00:07:39,381 There was some kind of sexual motive. 122 00:07:39,461 --> 00:07:41,541 It might not have been to assault her 123 00:07:41,621 --> 00:07:44,861 but there was some premeditation about humiliation, 124 00:07:44,941 --> 00:07:48,141 removing dignity and having power over her body, 125 00:07:48,221 --> 00:07:51,621 and that says something very scary about her killer. 126 00:07:51,701 --> 00:07:53,941 Police look at the cause of death 127 00:07:54,021 --> 00:07:57,861 in the hope it reveals clues to the identity of the killer. 128 00:07:57,941 --> 00:08:01,741 So, Norma had a number of broken ribs and some bruising to her back. 129 00:08:01,821 --> 00:08:04,861 And the pathologist was able to tell us that the attacker 130 00:08:04,941 --> 00:08:08,541 would have been kneeling on Norma at the time of putting 131 00:08:08,621 --> 00:08:12,021 his or her hands around Norma's neck to strangle her. 132 00:08:12,101 --> 00:08:14,461 So we were able to conclusively determine 133 00:08:14,541 --> 00:08:17,261 that Norma was dead before the fire started. 134 00:08:20,341 --> 00:08:22,341 He may have been kneeling on her chest 135 00:08:22,421 --> 00:08:26,541 to make sure that he strangled her 136 00:08:26,621 --> 00:08:28,421 and to keep her still. 137 00:08:29,501 --> 00:08:31,381 Having ruled out a sexual motive, 138 00:08:31,461 --> 00:08:35,621 police now have to ascertain why Norma was targeted 139 00:08:35,701 --> 00:08:37,141 and who was behind the murder. 140 00:08:41,461 --> 00:08:43,781 There's a concept known as the 'golden hour', 141 00:08:43,861 --> 00:08:45,301 which reflects the fact 142 00:08:45,381 --> 00:08:47,341 that actually, in the early stages of investigation, 143 00:08:47,421 --> 00:08:50,821 it's possible to lose evidence that you'll never get back again. 144 00:08:50,901 --> 00:08:57,181 So some of the early decisions are critical to make sure that, 145 00:08:57,261 --> 00:08:59,741 you know, you're doing things in the right order. 146 00:08:59,821 --> 00:09:02,701 An example of that is the forensic examination of the house. 147 00:09:02,781 --> 00:09:06,621 He thought the best way to destroy all of the evidence 148 00:09:06,701 --> 00:09:09,181 was to set fire to the house, 149 00:09:09,261 --> 00:09:12,141 and he lit fires in two different places. 150 00:09:12,221 --> 00:09:15,301 The police would have put a lot of resources into this. 151 00:09:15,381 --> 00:09:18,341 Norma knew a lot of people 152 00:09:18,421 --> 00:09:21,901 so, in those first and early stages, 153 00:09:21,981 --> 00:09:24,541 there would have been a lot of people to consider 154 00:09:24,621 --> 00:09:26,141 as possible suspects. 155 00:09:26,221 --> 00:09:30,901 Scene-of-crime manager Natalie Wing's role is to access the scene 156 00:09:30,981 --> 00:09:33,341 and process the evidence. 157 00:09:33,421 --> 00:09:35,301 We were carrying out assessments 158 00:09:35,381 --> 00:09:38,261 of what areas would be useful for DNA recovery. 159 00:09:38,341 --> 00:09:40,781 What seemed very clear to me 160 00:09:40,861 --> 00:09:44,261 was that Mrs Bell was a very tidy and organised lady 161 00:09:44,341 --> 00:09:48,141 but there were certain items that stood out as being unusual 162 00:09:48,221 --> 00:09:50,261 and that seemed out of place. 163 00:09:50,341 --> 00:09:52,581 There was a number of mobile phones 164 00:09:52,661 --> 00:09:54,541 that appeared to have been dismantled. 165 00:09:54,621 --> 00:09:57,541 There were some batteries and the backs of phones 166 00:09:57,621 --> 00:10:00,621 kind of scattered underneath the TV cabinet, 167 00:10:00,701 --> 00:10:02,661 which was placed in the corner of the kitchen. 168 00:10:02,741 --> 00:10:06,061 We recovered some evidence from those to send away. 169 00:10:06,141 --> 00:10:11,101 With police awaiting forensic results from DNA found at the property, 170 00:10:11,181 --> 00:10:13,821 it's Norma's bedroom, which throws up their next clue. 171 00:10:15,221 --> 00:10:17,021 We had information from the family 172 00:10:17,101 --> 00:10:20,101 that there'd been a significant amount of cash being kept 173 00:10:20,181 --> 00:10:21,981 within the address by Mrs Bell. 174 00:10:23,261 --> 00:10:26,861 Norma's family revealed that she kept cash in a briefcase 175 00:10:26,941 --> 00:10:29,301 inside an ottoman at the end of her bed. 176 00:10:30,421 --> 00:10:32,261 Norma's bedroom had been ransacked 177 00:10:32,341 --> 00:10:34,981 so there was paperwork all over the bedroom. 178 00:10:35,061 --> 00:10:38,341 You know, and a briefcase that had been in an ottoman, 179 00:10:38,421 --> 00:10:41,381 sort of, next to Norma's bed had been taken out. 180 00:10:42,621 --> 00:10:46,061 Norma was of an age where she might have been targeted 181 00:10:46,141 --> 00:10:49,261 by a burglar that was seeking to do a distraction burglary 182 00:10:49,341 --> 00:10:52,741 to gain entry to the house to try and steal from her. 183 00:10:52,821 --> 00:10:55,301 You know, she was a vulnerable victim. 184 00:10:55,381 --> 00:10:57,741 You know, she would have been easy to overpower. 185 00:10:58,781 --> 00:11:00,421 The motive appears to be money. 186 00:11:00,501 --> 00:11:03,701 Then police discover something else missing from the house. 187 00:11:05,141 --> 00:11:07,461 A new 49-inch television. 188 00:11:10,061 --> 00:11:11,901 Neighbourhood enquiries intensify. 189 00:11:20,021 --> 00:11:22,261 We had to go to every single house, visit every single person, 190 00:11:22,341 --> 00:11:24,941 obviously go through the day-to-day stuff. 191 00:11:25,021 --> 00:11:27,101 "Did you see this? Did you see that? 192 00:11:27,181 --> 00:11:28,701 Anything unusual?" 193 00:11:28,781 --> 00:11:31,101 And that built a massive amount of intelligence, 194 00:11:31,181 --> 00:11:33,901 which the murder inquiry team were delving through. 195 00:11:33,981 --> 00:11:37,821 You know, we got a really, really good response from the community. 196 00:11:37,901 --> 00:11:40,461 People from all walks of life wanted to help the investigation, 197 00:11:40,541 --> 00:11:42,861 wanted to help us catch Norma Bell's killer. 198 00:11:44,181 --> 00:11:46,501 And it's not long before they have a lead. 199 00:11:47,581 --> 00:11:50,301 Because we're community officers and people see us all the time, 200 00:11:50,381 --> 00:11:52,061 they trust us and they give us information. 201 00:11:53,181 --> 00:11:54,501 She'd been visiting an elderly gentleman, 202 00:11:54,581 --> 00:11:57,701 driving her car just off Cornwall Street out the back. 203 00:11:57,781 --> 00:11:59,261 She'd remembered seeing this lad 204 00:11:59,341 --> 00:12:01,461 coming out of the top of Westbourne Road carrying a TV. 205 00:12:03,541 --> 00:12:07,341 Could this be Norma Bell's killer? Who is he? 206 00:12:07,421 --> 00:12:10,261 Police turn to the public for help. 207 00:12:10,341 --> 00:12:12,101 I went into the media appeal. 208 00:12:12,181 --> 00:12:13,701 I went on TV 209 00:12:13,781 --> 00:12:16,941 and asked the public to come forward with any information about this TV. 210 00:12:18,021 --> 00:12:19,661 I would like to take this opportunity 211 00:12:19,741 --> 00:12:21,821 to appeal to anyone living in the local area 212 00:12:21,901 --> 00:12:25,941 who may have seen or heard anything suspicious 213 00:12:26,021 --> 00:12:30,261 from late evening on Saturday 214 00:12:30,341 --> 00:12:32,261 to early morning on Sunday. 215 00:12:33,941 --> 00:12:35,901 The investigation is gaining momentum 216 00:12:35,981 --> 00:12:38,781 but there is one mystery which threatens to scupper the hunt. 217 00:12:40,101 --> 00:12:41,901 How did the killer get in... 218 00:12:44,341 --> 00:12:47,581 there was no sign of forced entry. 219 00:12:47,661 --> 00:12:49,461 How did the offender get into the property? 220 00:12:49,541 --> 00:12:52,301 Have they climbed over the rear to get into the rear yard 221 00:12:52,381 --> 00:12:53,741 and come through the back? 222 00:12:53,821 --> 00:12:58,581 Or have they potentially been let into the property by the victim? 223 00:13:00,981 --> 00:13:03,821 Another hypothesis that we looked at at the time 224 00:13:03,901 --> 00:13:06,421 was that the attacker was known to Norma 225 00:13:06,501 --> 00:13:09,341 and that she opened the door to her attacker 226 00:13:09,421 --> 00:13:12,221 because she knew him or her at the time. 227 00:13:14,221 --> 00:13:16,861 The new findings throw the focus of the investigation 228 00:13:16,941 --> 00:13:19,541 firmly on the local community. 229 00:13:19,621 --> 00:13:24,141 If there was no forced entry, Norma Bell opened the door to her killer. 230 00:13:24,221 --> 00:13:27,381 Police now know Norma's murderer was probably known to her. 231 00:13:31,261 --> 00:13:34,341 The fact that there was no forced entry 232 00:13:34,421 --> 00:13:39,061 kind of turned the investigation in onto people that Norma would know. 233 00:13:39,141 --> 00:13:42,701 And we do know that when these type of murders happen, 234 00:13:42,781 --> 00:13:44,421 especially when women are killed, 235 00:13:44,501 --> 00:13:47,181 it's usually, statistically speaking, 236 00:13:47,261 --> 00:13:49,421 going to be somebody that they know. 237 00:13:50,501 --> 00:13:52,141 I feel sick about it. 238 00:13:53,221 --> 00:13:54,981 It's an eerie feeling, actually. 239 00:13:55,061 --> 00:13:56,661 It was such a shock, I suppose. 240 00:13:57,741 --> 00:13:59,461 People just couldn't believe it had happened. 241 00:13:59,541 --> 00:14:02,461 Everybody knew her, would speak to her going up and down the street. 242 00:14:03,821 --> 00:14:06,021 The murder investigation now has a focus. 243 00:14:07,101 --> 00:14:09,101 Police don't yet have a killer, 244 00:14:09,181 --> 00:14:11,181 but when DNA results come in, 245 00:14:11,261 --> 00:14:13,621 the chase is on. 246 00:14:13,701 --> 00:14:15,141 We will catch the murderer. 247 00:14:23,981 --> 00:14:26,781 Police now have the name of someone who had visited Norma recently 248 00:14:26,861 --> 00:14:28,821 and need to speak to him 249 00:14:28,901 --> 00:14:32,181 to establish if they can rule him out of their enquiries. 250 00:14:33,261 --> 00:14:35,861 He was somebody that, clearly, we wanted to speak to... 251 00:14:35,941 --> 00:14:38,981 we wanted to speak to to understand about that. 252 00:14:39,061 --> 00:14:42,061 We wanted to understand when the last time he'd seen Norma was, 253 00:14:42,141 --> 00:14:45,221 you know, what he was doing in the relevant time window. 254 00:14:45,301 --> 00:14:47,381 With detectives looking to track down Gareth Dack, 255 00:14:47,461 --> 00:14:50,381 in Westbourne Road, Graeme Handley is making headway 256 00:14:50,461 --> 00:14:52,661 speaking with the local community. 257 00:14:53,781 --> 00:14:55,301 So, everything goes in an officer's report, 258 00:14:55,381 --> 00:14:56,661 so the slightest conversation, 259 00:14:56,741 --> 00:14:58,501 you should put in as an officer's report. 260 00:14:58,581 --> 00:15:01,661 So everything that happens around a major enquiry like that 261 00:15:01,741 --> 00:15:03,741 could be very, very key. 262 00:15:03,821 --> 00:15:08,141 And it wasn't long before he received some interesting information. 263 00:15:08,221 --> 00:15:10,541 Got some intelligence, unconfirmed intelligence, 264 00:15:10,621 --> 00:15:15,501 that, having previously been, sort of, in debt to drug dealers, 265 00:15:15,581 --> 00:15:19,581 Gareth Dack had suddenly come into a little bit of money, you know, 266 00:15:19,661 --> 00:15:21,781 and potentially been seen carrying a TV around. 267 00:15:21,861 --> 00:15:24,781 And we knew that Norma was missing a TV from her front room. 268 00:15:25,861 --> 00:15:28,621 Police focus turns even further towards Gareth Dack. 269 00:15:28,701 --> 00:15:31,341 And then, DNA results come in. 270 00:15:33,301 --> 00:15:35,501 That Gareth Dack's DNA had been found on the phones 271 00:15:35,581 --> 00:15:38,821 that had been taken apart in the living area in the house. 272 00:15:38,901 --> 00:15:43,541 You know, at that point, Gareth Dack became a suspect in my eyes 273 00:15:43,621 --> 00:15:47,421 'cause there was no reason for his DNA to be on those phones, 274 00:15:47,501 --> 00:15:51,461 as far as I could see, unless he'd been involved in the offence. 275 00:15:51,541 --> 00:15:55,861 It isn't long before further DNA evidence links Dack to heinous crime. 276 00:15:55,941 --> 00:15:58,101 Some of the key things 277 00:15:58,181 --> 00:16:02,181 that we actually recovered from Mrs Bell herself were the ligature. 278 00:16:02,261 --> 00:16:05,421 We were able to then achieve a DNA result, 279 00:16:05,501 --> 00:16:07,261 which came back to Mr Dack 280 00:16:07,341 --> 00:16:10,861 to say that he was represented within the profile on the ligature. 281 00:16:12,141 --> 00:16:15,101 And we were able to then obtain a DNA profile 282 00:16:15,181 --> 00:16:17,821 from the waistband of Mrs Bell's underwear and knickers, 283 00:16:17,901 --> 00:16:21,381 which then came back as a match to Gareth Dack. 284 00:16:24,541 --> 00:16:27,821 That was another piece of the evidential chain 285 00:16:27,901 --> 00:16:29,981 that really pointed to the fact that Gareth Dack 286 00:16:30,061 --> 00:16:32,461 was the murderer of Norma Bell. 287 00:16:33,501 --> 00:16:35,861 Suddenly, police have a number-one suspect. 288 00:16:35,941 --> 00:16:38,301 But where is Gareth Dack? 289 00:16:39,461 --> 00:16:43,021 During the course of the day, our detectives initially phoned him 290 00:16:43,101 --> 00:16:46,621 just to arrange, you know, an interview, a chat with him 291 00:16:46,701 --> 00:16:48,461 about his knowledge of Norma 292 00:16:48,541 --> 00:16:50,861 and his knowledge about what might have happened. 293 00:16:52,021 --> 00:16:53,821 And he'd explained that he was in Liverpool 294 00:16:53,901 --> 00:16:55,701 and would be coming back later that evening. 295 00:16:57,181 --> 00:16:59,021 Police now believe there's a killer on the loose. 296 00:17:00,221 --> 00:17:01,981 But what lay behind this brutal murder? 297 00:17:02,061 --> 00:17:05,421 And despite the killer's attempts at burning the evidence, 298 00:17:05,501 --> 00:17:09,981 how had everything he had done next led police right to his door? 299 00:17:13,781 --> 00:17:15,141 (TAPE WHIRRS) 300 00:17:15,221 --> 00:17:16,701 (SIREN WAILS) 301 00:17:29,021 --> 00:17:32,061 The body of foster mother and grandmother Norma Bell 302 00:17:32,141 --> 00:17:34,461 has been pulled from her burning home. 303 00:17:35,941 --> 00:17:38,261 But the truth behind her death is shocking. 304 00:17:42,541 --> 00:17:44,341 On the night of 2 April, 305 00:17:44,421 --> 00:17:46,221 this man entered Norma Bell's home, 306 00:17:47,701 --> 00:17:49,381 strangled her with his bare hands 307 00:17:49,461 --> 00:17:51,741 and tied a ligature tightly around her neck. 308 00:17:53,701 --> 00:17:55,781 He cut her clothing and underwear, 309 00:17:55,861 --> 00:17:58,381 making it look as if there was a sexual motive. 310 00:17:58,461 --> 00:18:00,221 Then he ransacked her house for money. 311 00:18:03,301 --> 00:18:05,421 This man is Gareth Dack. 312 00:18:05,501 --> 00:18:07,061 This man is Norma Bell's murderer. 313 00:18:08,981 --> 00:18:11,301 And we are about to discover what this killer did next. 314 00:18:19,821 --> 00:18:21,701 Having killed Norma, 315 00:18:21,781 --> 00:18:25,701 Gareth ransacks the home looking for anything he can sell. 316 00:18:25,781 --> 00:18:28,901 He obviously had financial problems, he was in debt. 317 00:18:28,981 --> 00:18:32,421 He was a small-time drug dealer and cocaine user, 318 00:18:33,501 --> 00:18:35,901 so he'd run up some debts and he was well-known 319 00:18:35,981 --> 00:18:38,341 for going around trying to borrow money from local people. 320 00:18:39,581 --> 00:18:41,021 Dack settles on a new television. 321 00:18:43,461 --> 00:18:47,141 He was seen carrying a large TV out of the top of Westbourne Road. 322 00:18:47,221 --> 00:18:49,901 And he's later sold that that night for 60 quid, 323 00:18:49,981 --> 00:18:52,781 to a friend or an associate. 324 00:18:52,861 --> 00:18:54,021 Dack is an opportunistic killer. 325 00:18:54,101 --> 00:18:57,101 He isn't somebody who's really planned what he's going to do next. 326 00:18:57,181 --> 00:18:59,061 But, after he's killed Norma Bell, 327 00:18:59,141 --> 00:19:01,621 he recognises that there are opportunities around him. 328 00:19:01,701 --> 00:19:05,021 There's a television, for example, that he can go and sell. 329 00:19:05,101 --> 00:19:08,461 And his drugs motivate him more than his sense, 330 00:19:08,541 --> 00:19:10,981 so he picks it up and he carries it through the streets 331 00:19:11,061 --> 00:19:13,381 and people see him with that item. 332 00:19:14,581 --> 00:19:16,221 But Dack needs to get his hands on more cash. 333 00:19:18,301 --> 00:19:21,261 From that point on, I think Gareth Dack was a man who was driven, 334 00:19:21,341 --> 00:19:27,421 firstly, still by a desire to get a fix for his drug addiction. 335 00:19:27,501 --> 00:19:30,781 You know, and that was driving his initial decisions to take the telly 336 00:19:30,861 --> 00:19:34,741 and take it up the road and sell it to somebody and access some drugs. 337 00:19:34,821 --> 00:19:36,501 But following that, 338 00:19:37,661 --> 00:19:39,941 I think he had to come back to the address 339 00:19:40,021 --> 00:19:42,741 and he had to think about what he was gonna do next. 340 00:19:43,821 --> 00:19:45,541 Dack trawls through Norma's house, 341 00:19:45,621 --> 00:19:49,181 seemingly unaffected by the horrific crime he's just committed. 342 00:19:50,581 --> 00:19:53,861 Norma had round about 700 pounds in cash. 343 00:19:53,941 --> 00:19:55,301 We know from the family members 344 00:19:55,381 --> 00:19:58,501 that money is likely to be in a briefcase, 345 00:19:58,581 --> 00:20:01,141 which was in an ottoman at the bottom of Norma's bed. 346 00:20:01,221 --> 00:20:03,221 It could only have been found 347 00:20:03,301 --> 00:20:05,661 by somebody that was ransacking Norma's address 348 00:20:05,741 --> 00:20:07,821 and we know that, you know, that's what Gareth Dack did. 349 00:20:09,181 --> 00:20:11,781 But still, Dack doesn't leave Norma's house. 350 00:20:12,861 --> 00:20:14,581 And what he does next is chilling. 351 00:20:17,821 --> 00:20:19,981 He's rung sex lines from her landline 352 00:20:20,061 --> 00:20:22,061 that were advertised on Babestation channel. 353 00:20:24,181 --> 00:20:27,301 As she's dead or dying, he's made those phone calls. 354 00:20:27,381 --> 00:20:31,501 So, he was using her phone to phone sex lines. 355 00:20:31,581 --> 00:20:33,941 Why was he thinking about sex at this particular time? 356 00:20:34,021 --> 00:20:35,621 That shows his callousness. 357 00:20:35,701 --> 00:20:37,861 That shows how he wasn't feeling 358 00:20:37,941 --> 00:20:40,861 any remorse or shame from what he'd done. 359 00:20:42,061 --> 00:20:44,541 Dack phones the sex chat line more than once throughout the night 360 00:20:44,621 --> 00:20:47,981 and early hours of the morning before deciding to visit a friend 361 00:20:48,061 --> 00:20:53,901 and buy more drugs with the money he's stolen from his victim. 362 00:20:54,981 --> 00:20:58,061 He then left the address around about half-past midnight. 363 00:20:58,141 --> 00:20:59,101 He's taken some more drugs 364 00:20:59,181 --> 00:21:02,581 and he's picked up his car and he's driven it back to Westbourne Road. 365 00:21:02,661 --> 00:21:04,341 And returned, probably... 366 00:21:04,421 --> 00:21:06,981 well, the next phone call to the chat line 367 00:21:07,061 --> 00:21:09,021 was about 1:50 in the morning. 368 00:21:10,501 --> 00:21:13,021 Dack parks his car along Norma's road, 369 00:21:13,101 --> 00:21:15,381 unaware it will be picked up on CCTV cameras. 370 00:21:16,461 --> 00:21:20,701 Then Dack returns to Norma's house and sits by her body, 371 00:21:20,781 --> 00:21:22,981 continuing to call the chat lines. 372 00:21:24,581 --> 00:21:26,181 He wants to escape. 373 00:21:26,261 --> 00:21:28,101 He's murdered a defenceless old lady 374 00:21:28,181 --> 00:21:29,981 and the recognition of that is so powerful 375 00:21:30,061 --> 00:21:32,421 that now he wants to take himself away. 376 00:21:32,501 --> 00:21:34,541 And being driven by drugs 377 00:21:34,621 --> 00:21:37,061 means that his instinct and compulsion, sexually, 378 00:21:37,141 --> 00:21:38,741 are probably high level, as well. 379 00:21:38,821 --> 00:21:40,581 It was really unusual 380 00:21:40,661 --> 00:21:44,461 that the murderer spent so much time in the address 381 00:21:44,541 --> 00:21:45,861 throughout the course of the night, 382 00:21:45,941 --> 00:21:48,141 rather than potentially committing the murder 383 00:21:48,221 --> 00:21:50,221 and then looking to distance himself as quickly as possible 384 00:21:50,301 --> 00:21:51,261 from the scene. 385 00:21:58,341 --> 00:22:00,021 Sunrise. 386 00:22:00,101 --> 00:22:03,981 Having spent a considerable amount of time at Norma's home, 387 00:22:04,061 --> 00:22:06,461 Gareth Dack decides to try to cover his tracks. 388 00:22:07,581 --> 00:22:10,661 His aim - to get away with murder. 389 00:22:10,741 --> 00:22:13,141 His plan - to burn down her house. 390 00:22:16,901 --> 00:22:21,781 He tried to destroy the scene of the crime by blowing up the house. 391 00:22:21,861 --> 00:22:24,741 He'd left the back door open. He set the gas off. 392 00:22:25,861 --> 00:22:27,501 These fires that had been set at this property 393 00:22:27,581 --> 00:22:29,661 were so the offender could cover their tracks 394 00:22:29,741 --> 00:22:32,101 and destroy some of the evidence at that scene. 395 00:22:33,221 --> 00:22:34,661 If he'd shut the back door after he left, 396 00:22:34,741 --> 00:22:36,501 the build-up of gas would have destroyed 397 00:22:36,581 --> 00:22:39,581 not only Norma's house but our house and next door, as well. 398 00:22:41,501 --> 00:22:43,901 I don't think burning down the house 399 00:22:43,981 --> 00:22:48,221 was probably what he was thinking of doing at first. 400 00:22:48,301 --> 00:22:51,181 And it was at the end of the night that he decided, 401 00:22:51,261 --> 00:22:56,781 "I think I'm just gonna set a fire and destroy all of the evidence. 402 00:22:56,861 --> 00:22:59,981 Nobody will ever know that Norma's clothes were cut. 403 00:23:01,221 --> 00:23:03,421 Nobody will ever know that I had been there." 404 00:23:05,341 --> 00:23:08,501 Having turned on the gas and struck a match, 405 00:23:08,581 --> 00:23:10,261 Dack knows he needs to escape unseen. 406 00:23:11,701 --> 00:23:13,501 He jumps over a wheelie bin into a side alley. 407 00:23:17,461 --> 00:23:20,701 And he knows exactly where to hide out to watch the unfolding drama... 408 00:23:23,381 --> 00:23:25,261 just doors away at his parents' home. 409 00:23:26,381 --> 00:23:29,541 He's gone back down the road to where his mum and dad live 410 00:23:29,621 --> 00:23:31,421 and he seems to have hid in the garage for awhile. 411 00:23:31,501 --> 00:23:33,061 He didn't have a key to his parents' house 412 00:23:33,141 --> 00:23:35,381 but he was able to access the garage. 413 00:23:35,461 --> 00:23:38,421 He hid himself away in his parents' garage 414 00:23:38,501 --> 00:23:40,581 because he probably needed to get his head straight 415 00:23:40,661 --> 00:23:43,421 and he needed to get his story straight, 416 00:23:43,501 --> 00:23:48,101 because somebody at some point was gonna come and talk to him. 417 00:23:48,181 --> 00:23:51,221 And being able to take some time and get his story straight 418 00:23:51,301 --> 00:23:52,821 was probably quite important. 419 00:23:55,941 --> 00:23:58,221 (PHONE RINGS) 420 00:24:03,981 --> 00:24:06,181 WOMAN: Emergency. Which service? 421 00:24:06,261 --> 00:24:08,421 MAN: Fire brigade, please, and police. 422 00:24:08,501 --> 00:24:11,861 At 8.23am, with Gareth Dack hiding yards away, 423 00:24:11,941 --> 00:24:14,421 police and fire crews arrive at the scene. 424 00:24:15,901 --> 00:24:17,941 They're about to discover Norma Bell's dead body. 425 00:24:19,621 --> 00:24:21,781 The body of an elderly woman, 426 00:24:21,861 --> 00:24:25,261 who I can now confirm to be 79-year-old Norma Bell, 427 00:24:25,341 --> 00:24:27,341 was found inside the property. 428 00:24:27,421 --> 00:24:30,741 Norma was the mother of three biological children 429 00:24:30,821 --> 00:24:35,021 and a foster mother to more than 50 foster children. 430 00:24:36,061 --> 00:24:40,061 She'd lived on Westbourne Road in Hartlepool for 27 years 431 00:24:40,141 --> 00:24:43,221 and would have celebrated her 80th birthday in May. 432 00:24:44,821 --> 00:24:47,861 Dack lies low in his parents' garage for several hours. 433 00:24:48,941 --> 00:24:50,461 He's thinking hard 434 00:24:50,541 --> 00:24:52,581 about how to escape from Westbourne Road unnoticed. 435 00:24:52,661 --> 00:24:53,821 But there's a problem. 436 00:24:53,901 --> 00:24:58,421 His car is now within the police cordon and he cannot access it. 437 00:24:59,621 --> 00:25:02,021 He makes a call to his girlfriend. 438 00:25:02,101 --> 00:25:06,541 He asked her to arrange a taxi for him to get back to his home address. 439 00:25:06,621 --> 00:25:10,021 She did that and I think he arrived home that afternoon 440 00:25:10,101 --> 00:25:13,101 and spent the rest of the Sunday with his partner. 441 00:25:14,221 --> 00:25:15,901 Now in the comfort of his own home, 442 00:25:15,981 --> 00:25:19,621 Dack has time to rest and think through his next plan of action 443 00:25:19,701 --> 00:25:21,621 on how to get away with murder. 444 00:25:28,581 --> 00:25:30,301 Norma's house is still a crime scene 445 00:25:30,381 --> 00:25:32,621 and police are on the hunt for a killer. 446 00:25:33,901 --> 00:25:35,981 Dack knows he needs to lay low, 447 00:25:36,061 --> 00:25:38,581 but first, he makes a risky move. 448 00:25:38,661 --> 00:25:40,781 He heads back to Westbourne Road. 449 00:25:40,861 --> 00:25:43,701 He attended, with his girlfriend, 450 00:25:43,781 --> 00:25:46,541 to come and pick up his car from Westbourne Road. 451 00:25:46,621 --> 00:25:49,101 So he got a taxi back to Westbourne Road 452 00:25:49,181 --> 00:25:53,581 and he got his silver VW Bora car, you know, and he took that away 453 00:25:53,661 --> 00:25:59,261 and he also was making arrangements with associates to go on a trip. 454 00:26:00,341 --> 00:26:04,261 Having got his car, Dack decides to leave Hartlepool, 455 00:26:04,341 --> 00:26:07,861 stopping for supplies at a local service station with a friend. 456 00:26:07,941 --> 00:26:09,781 For many people, the idea that you could murder someone 457 00:26:09,861 --> 00:26:13,701 and then get on about your business might seem completely strange. 458 00:26:13,781 --> 00:26:15,861 But you have to remember 459 00:26:15,941 --> 00:26:19,101 Dack is recognising that he needs some kind of alibi, 460 00:26:19,181 --> 00:26:21,981 some kind of cover-up. The more normal he can seem, 461 00:26:22,061 --> 00:26:25,021 the less he will believe that people can connect him with the crime. 462 00:26:29,021 --> 00:26:33,141 He goes away from the Hartlepool area and he turns up in Liverpool. 463 00:26:33,221 --> 00:26:36,741 He went with friends to Liverpool. His friends were visiting relatives. 464 00:26:36,821 --> 00:26:38,901 In the days after the murder, 465 00:26:38,981 --> 00:26:41,861 what he's trying to do is just act normally - 466 00:26:41,941 --> 00:26:45,181 not attract any suspicion to himself. 467 00:26:45,261 --> 00:26:48,181 And he didn't seem to have a lot of difficulty doing that. 468 00:26:48,261 --> 00:26:50,181 He didn't seem to be worried 469 00:26:50,261 --> 00:26:51,261 or concerned 470 00:26:51,341 --> 00:26:53,701 or emotionally disturbed 471 00:26:53,781 --> 00:26:54,981 by what he'd done. 472 00:26:58,501 --> 00:27:01,701 In Liverpool, Dack and his friends enjoy some drinks in a pub. 473 00:27:02,781 --> 00:27:05,461 He's unaware that the investigation into Norma Bell's murder 474 00:27:05,541 --> 00:27:06,701 is gaining momentum.... 475 00:27:11,301 --> 00:27:13,381 and he is now suspect number one. 476 00:27:15,981 --> 00:27:18,021 So, I knew after making Gareth Dack a suspect 477 00:27:18,101 --> 00:27:21,061 that I wanted to arrest him at the earliest opportunity. 478 00:27:21,141 --> 00:27:24,861 I also knew at the time that he was in Liverpool. 479 00:27:27,621 --> 00:27:31,141 As Gareth Dack makes his way home to Hartlepool, 480 00:27:31,221 --> 00:27:32,901 something is playing on his mind. 481 00:27:34,141 --> 00:27:37,941 From returning from Liverpool, Gareth Dack had accessed his phone 482 00:27:38,021 --> 00:27:41,101 and he'd Googled, "Hartlepool, Gareth Dack," 483 00:27:41,181 --> 00:27:45,021 I believe, in an attempt to see if there was any news already out there 484 00:27:45,101 --> 00:27:47,101 that suggested that he was being looked for 485 00:27:47,181 --> 00:27:50,141 as a suspect in the offence. 486 00:27:51,621 --> 00:27:53,541 At this point it's clear that for Dack 487 00:27:53,621 --> 00:27:55,061 reality is starting to settle in. 488 00:27:55,141 --> 00:27:57,101 He's realising that the likelihood is 489 00:27:57,181 --> 00:28:00,141 that he's going to be incriminated in some way. 490 00:28:00,221 --> 00:28:02,021 Whether he's checking information 491 00:28:02,101 --> 00:28:05,781 to see whether he's being considered as a guilty party 492 00:28:05,861 --> 00:28:07,301 or whether he's hoping 493 00:28:07,381 --> 00:28:09,301 that potentially other people are gonna be implicated 494 00:28:09,381 --> 00:28:12,661 and he can get away with just being a witness, who knows? 495 00:28:12,741 --> 00:28:14,901 What we do know is his mind is directed to that worry. 496 00:28:21,101 --> 00:28:25,781 When Dack returns to Hartlepool, the police pounce. 497 00:28:31,661 --> 00:28:32,821 (UNCLEAR) 498 00:28:38,541 --> 00:28:39,701 (UNCLEAR) 499 00:28:53,541 --> 00:28:54,701 WOMAN: Right. 500 00:29:29,541 --> 00:29:32,941 Dack's movements have bought him three days of freedom, 501 00:29:33,021 --> 00:29:35,741 but this is all about to come to an abrupt end. 502 00:29:41,901 --> 00:29:43,341 WOMAN: A man's been arrested on suspicion of murder 503 00:29:43,421 --> 00:29:45,661 in connection with the death of an elderly woman in Hartlepool 504 00:29:45,741 --> 00:29:47,701 at the weekend. 505 00:29:47,781 --> 00:29:49,341 I'm just gonna have to cuff you, alright? 506 00:29:51,741 --> 00:29:54,701 Gareth's name was getting spread round pretty quick 507 00:29:54,781 --> 00:29:56,741 and then everybody started to text again, 508 00:29:56,821 --> 00:29:58,301 "Guess who's been arrested for that?" 509 00:29:58,381 --> 00:29:59,981 "Guess who's been arrested for this?" And what have you. 510 00:30:28,381 --> 00:30:31,741 Sunday 3 April 2016, 511 00:30:31,821 --> 00:30:34,861 the day life on Westbourne Road changed forever... 512 00:30:39,381 --> 00:30:43,301 a much-loved grandma and foster parent found dead in her home, 513 00:30:43,381 --> 00:30:46,141 a fire set to cover the killer's tracks, 514 00:30:46,221 --> 00:30:49,501 a former neighbour arrested on suspicion of murder. 515 00:30:49,581 --> 00:30:52,701 But what led to this father of four 516 00:30:52,781 --> 00:30:55,381 carrying out the most horrific crime possible? 517 00:30:56,501 --> 00:30:57,901 Gareth Dack was a hardworking father 518 00:30:57,981 --> 00:31:02,621 but ill health had led to time off work as an asbestos lagger, 519 00:31:02,701 --> 00:31:06,101 which in turn led to a spiralling drug habit and debts. 520 00:31:10,461 --> 00:31:13,821 In the couple of weeks prior to the attack, 521 00:31:13,901 --> 00:31:17,061 he'd been contacting a number of people to try and borrow money. 522 00:31:17,141 --> 00:31:19,181 We'd established that he was a drug user 523 00:31:19,261 --> 00:31:22,261 and that he was, you know, using money to buy drugs. 524 00:31:30,341 --> 00:31:33,381 On Saturday 26 March 2016, 525 00:31:33,461 --> 00:31:37,021 33-year-old Gareth Dack asked to borrow 20 pounds 526 00:31:37,101 --> 00:31:39,741 from his childhood neighbour, Norma Bell. 527 00:31:41,301 --> 00:31:44,181 I saw Gareth Dack approach the property, 528 00:31:45,341 --> 00:31:47,181 knock on her door and go in. 529 00:31:48,301 --> 00:31:52,141 I told Norma on numerous occasions not to let anybody into her house. 530 00:31:52,221 --> 00:31:55,221 She normally listened but because she knew Gareth, 531 00:31:55,301 --> 00:31:59,181 he was a friend of one of the sons, she let him in. 532 00:32:01,021 --> 00:32:04,341 He gave an explanation that he needed to borrow some money 533 00:32:04,421 --> 00:32:08,381 because he needed to go and visit his parents in their caravan. 534 00:32:08,461 --> 00:32:09,821 That they had his bank cards 535 00:32:09,901 --> 00:32:13,021 and he needed the money for petrol to get there. 536 00:32:13,101 --> 00:32:14,381 So Norma invited him in. 537 00:32:14,461 --> 00:32:17,461 Norma went to her handbag and gave him ten pounds. 538 00:32:17,541 --> 00:32:20,301 He'd asked for 20 pounds but she wasn't particularly comfortable. 539 00:32:20,381 --> 00:32:23,061 She'd shielded her handbag while she gave him the money 540 00:32:23,141 --> 00:32:25,421 and she gave him ten pounds. 541 00:32:27,141 --> 00:32:28,541 Having borrowed the money, 542 00:32:28,621 --> 00:32:32,101 Dack needed to pay it back the following week. 543 00:32:32,181 --> 00:32:36,301 But while he did visit Norma again, it wasn't to repay her. 544 00:32:40,421 --> 00:32:41,501 He'd been at home with his partner. 545 00:32:41,581 --> 00:32:45,461 I think they'd been out for a family day out with the kids. 546 00:32:45,541 --> 00:32:49,581 And about half 8:30, he seemed to have some kind of row with her. 547 00:32:49,661 --> 00:32:52,541 He left home and sometime that evening, 548 00:32:52,621 --> 00:32:54,101 he turned up at Norma Bell's house. 549 00:32:58,381 --> 00:33:00,101 He went to Norma's address that night 550 00:33:00,181 --> 00:33:01,661 because he was desperate for drugs 551 00:33:01,741 --> 00:33:04,981 and he'd run out of cash and run out of sources of credit. 552 00:33:06,021 --> 00:33:07,981 She was a strong lady and she would have had no difficulty saying, 553 00:33:08,061 --> 00:33:10,501 "No, I'm not lending you the money." 554 00:33:10,581 --> 00:33:12,981 And I think Gareth Dack lost his temper at that point 555 00:33:13,061 --> 00:33:15,221 and that led directly into 556 00:33:15,301 --> 00:33:18,541 the attack that ultimately would have caused Norma's death. 557 00:33:20,181 --> 00:33:23,461 He murdered Norma and that was because he wanted money. 558 00:33:24,581 --> 00:33:29,141 I don't think that Dack planned for a lot of the things 559 00:33:29,221 --> 00:33:30,541 that happened that night. 560 00:33:30,621 --> 00:33:32,701 Things, as in the rest of his life, 561 00:33:32,781 --> 00:33:34,301 got out of his control. 562 00:33:44,501 --> 00:33:47,781 Having arrested Gareth Dack for the murder of Norma Bell, 563 00:33:47,861 --> 00:33:49,941 police bring him in for questioning 564 00:33:50,021 --> 00:33:52,821 and get a warrant to search his home and car. 565 00:33:57,501 --> 00:34:02,021 So, in the car, we found 405 pounds in notes 566 00:34:02,101 --> 00:34:06,301 and we know that Norma potentially had around about 700 pounds in cash 567 00:34:06,381 --> 00:34:07,941 in the house. 568 00:34:08,021 --> 00:34:12,741 My theory is that the cash that was in Gareth Dack's VW Bora 569 00:34:12,821 --> 00:34:15,901 was the cash that he stole from Norma's house. 570 00:34:15,981 --> 00:34:17,821 It could only have been found 571 00:34:17,901 --> 00:34:20,021 by somebody that was ransacking Norma's address 572 00:34:20,101 --> 00:34:23,461 and we know that, you know, that's what Gareth Dack did. 573 00:34:24,901 --> 00:34:26,741 Police were also able to put together the final piece of the jigsaw. 574 00:34:28,461 --> 00:34:30,221 Forensic officers had discovered a vital clue 575 00:34:30,301 --> 00:34:33,581 as to how the killer had left Norma's property after setting it alight. 576 00:34:36,781 --> 00:34:39,381 So, this is the alleyway that leads to the rear of Norma's address. 577 00:34:40,861 --> 00:34:44,861 Now, we know that the last time that Gareth Dack left that address, 578 00:34:46,181 --> 00:34:48,701 after he'd set the fire, he must have come out the rear 579 00:34:48,781 --> 00:34:52,221 because he snapped the key in the back of the front door lock 580 00:34:52,301 --> 00:34:55,981 and then exited using the wheelie bin 581 00:34:56,061 --> 00:34:57,981 over the gate with the barbed wire. 582 00:34:58,061 --> 00:35:01,141 There was a footprint on a wheelie bin. 583 00:35:03,741 --> 00:35:05,301 Once Gareth Dack had been arrested, 584 00:35:05,381 --> 00:35:07,261 there was a search carried out at his property 585 00:35:07,341 --> 00:35:09,301 where there was a pair of trainers recovered. 586 00:35:09,381 --> 00:35:12,141 We were then able to send those trainers and the footwear mark 587 00:35:12,221 --> 00:35:13,541 away to a scientist, 588 00:35:13,621 --> 00:35:15,861 who was then able to provide us with extremely strong support 589 00:35:15,941 --> 00:35:19,421 that those trainers that belonged to Mr Dack, 590 00:35:19,501 --> 00:35:22,381 the pad left that mark on the top of the wheelie bin. 591 00:35:27,341 --> 00:35:29,061 With all the evidence compiled, 592 00:35:29,141 --> 00:35:31,381 it was now for the courts to decide Dack's fate. 593 00:35:34,381 --> 00:35:35,621 (THUNDER CLAPS) 594 00:35:36,941 --> 00:35:38,381 NEWSCAST: A man's appeared in court 595 00:35:38,461 --> 00:35:40,661 to deny murdering a Hartlepool grandmother 596 00:35:40,741 --> 00:35:42,981 who looked after dozens of foster children. 597 00:35:43,061 --> 00:35:47,261 On 12 January 2017, 598 00:35:47,341 --> 00:35:49,621 the trial into the murder of 79-year-old Norma Bell 599 00:35:49,701 --> 00:35:51,221 begins at Teesside Crown Court. 600 00:35:52,101 --> 00:35:54,181 Journalist Tom Wilkinson was there every day of the trial. 601 00:35:55,661 --> 00:35:58,301 So, for every part of the prosecution case, 602 00:35:58,381 --> 00:36:01,141 he tried to give an innocent explanation for why it was there. 603 00:36:02,741 --> 00:36:05,141 He was quite assured in his story. He stuck to it. 604 00:36:05,221 --> 00:36:06,981 He was quite arrogant in the way he said it. 605 00:36:08,021 --> 00:36:09,381 The jury heard DNA evidence 606 00:36:09,461 --> 00:36:10,781 was overwhelming... 607 00:36:12,181 --> 00:36:14,741 and the chance of it belonging to someone other than Dack 608 00:36:14,821 --> 00:36:16,341 was one in one billion. 609 00:36:18,101 --> 00:36:20,421 But Dack had an answer for everything. 610 00:36:21,941 --> 00:36:25,381 He accounted for the DNA on the phones 611 00:36:25,461 --> 00:36:27,581 by saying that when he'd been in Norma's house - 612 00:36:27,661 --> 00:36:29,301 and he professed to be a friend of Norma - 613 00:36:29,381 --> 00:36:31,141 he professed to see Norma quite regularly 614 00:36:31,221 --> 00:36:33,701 to do sort of jobs around the house for her, 615 00:36:33,781 --> 00:36:35,781 to be a bit of a helping hand. 616 00:36:35,861 --> 00:36:37,581 There was DNA found on some spent matches 617 00:36:37,661 --> 00:36:40,221 where he's struck a match and tried to blow the house up. 618 00:36:40,301 --> 00:36:41,941 He said, "Oh, no, when I was there the other night, 619 00:36:42,021 --> 00:36:43,381 I was trying to light a fire for her." 620 00:36:44,821 --> 00:36:47,741 We were able to make a mockery of that, really. 621 00:36:47,821 --> 00:36:49,501 We were able to take statements from the family 622 00:36:49,581 --> 00:36:52,581 that showed that Gareth Dack was not a friend of Norma. 623 00:36:55,421 --> 00:37:00,061 On 1 February 2017, the jury came to a conclusion. 624 00:37:01,901 --> 00:37:03,661 In a unanimous verdict, 625 00:37:03,741 --> 00:37:06,381 they found Gareth Dack guilty of murdering Norma Bell. 626 00:37:09,301 --> 00:37:13,221 He was sentenced to a minimum of 33 years before parole. 627 00:37:14,781 --> 00:37:17,421 Gareth Dack has never shown an ounce of remorse 628 00:37:17,501 --> 00:37:20,541 and, considering the horrific nature of the acts he's committed, 629 00:37:20,621 --> 00:37:23,261 I find that incredible, really. 630 00:37:23,341 --> 00:37:27,781 But he's never...never accepted responsibility for what he's done. 631 00:37:29,541 --> 00:37:33,301 After the verdict, Norma's emotional family face the public. 632 00:37:33,381 --> 00:37:37,421 Norma Bell was our confidant, our friend, 633 00:37:37,501 --> 00:37:40,301 our crutch to lean on and, not least, she was out mam. 634 00:37:40,381 --> 00:37:42,901 Our mother dedicated her adult life 635 00:37:42,981 --> 00:37:45,421 to fostering and looking after needy children. 636 00:37:45,501 --> 00:37:47,541 Our mam had a heart as big as a lion. 637 00:37:47,621 --> 00:37:50,581 Captioned by Ai-Media ai-media.tv