1 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,921 Steve Fulcher was found guilty of two counts of gross misconduct 2 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,283 and received two final written warnings. 3 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,121 He chose not to appeal and made the decision to resign from the force. 4 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,447 I think we should all remember that. He was not sacked. 5 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:34,971 He chose to leave. 6 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,687 There has been much speculation by Fulcher and, consequently, (he media, 7 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,644 in relation to possible other victims of Christopher Halli well. 8 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,250 We a': Wikshire Police 9 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,681 made the ethical decision to maintain a position 10 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,805 of not rising to these sensational and unsubstantiated claims 11 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,685 because we believe this would lead to a media frenzy. 12 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,122 The murder of Becky Godden has raised a number of issues, 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,766 including the Police And Crimina§ Evidence Ad, 14 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,962 which was introduced in 1984. 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,128 I believe thal, ll PA CE is ethically followed 16 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,402 and delivered in fine with the codes of practice, 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,206 the right outcomes can be achieved without evidence being inadmissible. 18 00:01:09,320 --> 00:01:10,731 (Flurry of questions) 19 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,722 OK, gentlemen, lam now going to take you through 20 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,650 the basic stages of the intelligence cycle. 21 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,286 Stage one will be planning and direction, 22 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,847 in which we evaluate opportunities and decide on strategy. 23 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,888 - Er, do you want to...? - (He speaks in Arabic) 24 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,441 Thank you. So, that's planning and direction. 25 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:13,800 Next, collection. 26 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:16,127 (Loud explosion) 27 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,211 Is this the same one? 28 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,560 Yeah. 29 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:29,729 Christ... Do you ever get used to that? 30 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,322 OK. Er, as I was saying, 31 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:34,965 stage two is collection. 32 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,765 - When? - Yesterday. 33 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,531 We (old you before, don't believe everything you read. 34 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:43,211 - It's perfectly safe. Don't worry. - It was on BBC News. 35 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,450 There was a suicide bomb in Benghazi only about half a mile from your barracks. 36 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,530 It's news to me. 37 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:54,085 How have you been? 38 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:57,888 I'm really enjoying it. I'm... 39 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,684 “feeling pretty chilled, actually. 40 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,564 And at least I'm wanted here. 41 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,842 I know you couldn't care less, but Debs Peach told me 42 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,531 Pat Geenty's retired for personal reasons 43 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:08,483 and Mike Veale is now Chief Constable. 44 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,523 I just thought you could do with a laugh. 45 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,364 You know what'? You're right. I really...couldn't care less any more. 46 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,046 Well, that's all my news. 47 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,731 We love you very much and can't wait to see you. 48 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,446 I've got to go because I'm meeting the girls at the cinema tonight. 49 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:27,891 OK. 50 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,286 All right... 51 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:30,606 Give them my love. 52 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,285 I love you. 53 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,368 Please, be careful. 54 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,891 Mm-hm. 55 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:45,601 - (Line rings) - Hello? 56 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:46,687 Debs... 57 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,201 - What the fuck is going on? - I wondered when you'd find out. 58 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,721 They've finally given Mike Veafe me top job? 59 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,241 And he's already been talking about you. 60 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,001 Blaming you for the fact they still haven't charged Halliwell over Becky Godden. 61 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,407 They've had years to come up with enough evidence. 62 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,921 It's all wearing a bit thin, this, isn't it, still blaming me? 63 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,121 Yeah. 64 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,527 What happened with that stuff they dug up at the lake... 65 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,369 - “at Ramsbury? - 60 items of clothing. 66 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,006 You'd think they'd have assigned a big team to it, wouldn't you? 67 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,610 Oh, what...? 68 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,245 They haven't done anything? 69 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,364 Let's just say, apparently, there hasn't been much progress. 70 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,687 They've only just put a small team on it. 71 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,962 And ifs being headed up by Sean Memory, 72 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,367 who's now a Detective Superintendent, by the way. 73 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,609 Do you know what, I think I'd rather be here with mad Libyans throwing bombs at me 74 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,529 than anywhere near Gable fucking Cross. 75 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,369 How long are you out there for? 76 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,130 I've got another six months. 77 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,442 And don't mention anything about bombs to Yvonne. 78 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,766 Please. 79 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,611 CHARLIE: Karen? 80 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,564 Come on, love, we'd better get going. 81 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,642 Let's at least hear what he's got to say. 82 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,368 I've written an open letter to Halliwell 83 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,131 asking him to tell the truth about what he did to Becky. 84 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,368 I'm not expecting a response, but I just... 85 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,842 ...have to try to keep her in the public eye. 86 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,848 Cos she doesn't matter as much as Sian, you see? 87 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,645 Because Sian was just a normal girl who worked in an office. 88 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,091 A good girl. 89 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:18,964 But Becky was a bad girl. 90 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:22,931 - A bad little girl who must have deserved it. - Karen... 91 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,281 Well, I know that's what everyone thinks! 92 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,890 Listen to me. 93 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:31,921 I am convinced that, because of you, the Police and Crime Commissioner 94 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,807 is pressuring Wiltshire Police into looking for new evidence to bring Halliwell to trial. 95 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,082 So, whatever it is you're doing, it's working. 96 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,407 - Oh, God... - There, you see? 97 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,684 Oh, thank you very much. Thank you. 98 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:45,847 I won't give up. 99 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,528 (Doorbell chimes) 100 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,170 - Hi, Kev. - Hi, Elaine. 101 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:15,247 How are you? 102 00:06:26,280 --> 00:06:27,805 Are you OK, love? 103 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,969 I'm just feeling it a bit at the moment. 104 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,210 Ifs been hard. 105 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,528 You get people in the pub who think they're trying to be nice, rather than spiteful, 106 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,530 but they say, "Don't you wish you'd gone outwith her that night?" 107 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,483 I ask myself that all the time. 108 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,648 You mustn't think about it like that, Kev. 109 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,731 She died because of Christopher Halliwell, not anybody else. Certainly not you. 110 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,724 Is that what you wanted to see me about? Because that's easy to deal with. 111 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,084 No, it's not that. 112 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,451 Well, what, then, love? 113 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,809 I'm seeing somebody else. 114 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,404 - Oh. - I'm sorry. 115 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:23,482 Listen to me, you must never apologise for getting on with your life. 116 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,364 I feel so bloody guilty. 117 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:26,527 No! 118 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,090 Sian's not here. 119 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,722 What are you supposed to do, pine for her for the rest of your life? 120 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,803 It's a comfort to me that she knew what it was to share a life with someone, 121 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,685 that she was loved and cherished. 122 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,843 But now she's gone and... 123 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,161 ...I'm glad for you that you have someone else. 124 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,161 I had to come here and tell you about Emma before you found out from anyone else. 125 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,884 Is that her name, Emma? 126 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,489 Why don't you bring her to the wedding? 127 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,211 Are you sure? 128 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,842 Please. Its important to me. 129 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,644 Bring her, Kev. 130 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,007 I can meet her before, if you like. Take the pressure off. 131 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,651 Thank you. 132 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,769 And this is everything you have? 133 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,771 Well, we do have some other leads we're following up, but basically, yes, it is. 134 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,965 I thought there were some items recovered from a pond with Sian's boots. 135 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,650 Does any of that relate to Becky? 136 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,001 We did find some stuff, yeah. But a lot of it had rotted. 137 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,090 And we've not been able to match any of it yet to Becky's clothing 138 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,363 or descriptions of clothing of any missing persons, so... 139 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:52,361 I'd say we've got enough here to re-arrest and charge and get it to court. 140 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:53,720 Mm-hm. 141 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,969 But maybe not enough to convince a jun! to convict. 142 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,047 Right. 143 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,925 It's all consistent with Halliwell having murdered Rebecca Godden. 144 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,850 And this prostitute who links the two of them is helpful. 145 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,644 But nothing actually says he did it. 146 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,489 The elephant in the room is, of course, the confession. 147 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,120 - Well, that was ruled inadmissible, so... - Wrongly. 148 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,401 In my opinion. 149 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,763 But with a different judge, a different set of circumstances, 150 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,326 there may be a way we can get it allowed this time round. 151 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,522 - How? - The key, ironically enough, 152 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,961 is for Halliwell to come out and say, "I didn't do it." 153 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,243 Remember, he's never had to actually state a defence for Rebecca Godden 154 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,283 because the case was thrown out. 155 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,768 He'll probably stay silent and just challenge us to make our case, 156 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,041 as is his right. 157 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,607 But if he now tries to claim he's never met her, or words to that effect, 158 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,085 that's the game-changer. 159 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,170 His confession directly contradicts this. So, it's unlikely, of course. 160 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,284 Any lawyer worth his salt would advise him to keep his mouth shut. 161 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:52,770 But if he did, that gives us the grounds to ask the judge to revisit the original ruling. 162 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,929 If that happens, Steve Fulcher would have to give evidence. 163 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:01,125 And his relationship with Wiltshire Police is not great, to say the least. 164 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,891 It's by far the strongest evidence we have. 165 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,684 (He sighs) 166 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,245 (Doorbell chimes) 167 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,082 Mum, don't embarrass me, OK? 168 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,565 I really like this one. 169 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,446 - Hey! - Hey... 170 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,246 Mum... 171 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,408 - This is Kev. - Hiya. 172 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:27,885 - Hi, Kev. - Nice to meet you. 173 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,047 And you. 174 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,685 Do you want a cuppa? 175 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,040 Please, yeah. 176 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,402 Elaine... This is Emma. 177 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,244 - Pleased to meet you, love. - Thanks. 178 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,203 Sorry it's in such difficult circumstances. 179 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,846 Well, that's not your fault, is it? Come on, sit down. 180 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,008 - Coffee? - Yeah, please. 181 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,645 Two coffees, please. 182 00:10:58,520 --> 00:10:59,681 So... 183 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,330 How did you meet? Tell me everything. 184 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,482 Erm, just round a friend's house. 185 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,483 We got chatting and it sort of clicked. 186 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:09,931 We went out a few times. 187 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,611 I done her a chicken pasta and that sealed the deal. 188 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,007 Kev's a really good cook. 189 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:17,606 You're not so bad. 190 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,451 - She's brilliant, Elaine. - He's just being kind, honestly. 191 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,448 So, how's the wedding stuff going, then, Elaine? 192 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,926 Getting there. Actually, I'm just going to go to the loo. 193 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,604 (She sobs quietly) 194 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,048 (She starts to sob loudly) 195 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,204 (Door swings open) 196 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,687 (Loud sobbing) 197 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,049 (Sobbing continues) 198 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,484 Christopher John Halliwell, 199 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,888 I'm arresting you for the murder of Rebecca Godden, contrary to common law. 200 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,891 You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence if you do not mention, 201 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,810 when questioned, something which you later rely on in court. 202 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,763 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 203 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,041 Do you understand? 204 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,127 (He snifffi) 205 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,241 Mm. 206 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,125 OK, I'm going to take you now to Worcester Police Station, 207 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,971 where you will be interviewed in the presence of a solicitor. 208 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,411 I don't want a solicitor. 209 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,363 Pardon? 210 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:55,890 I don't want a solicitor. 211 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,162 I want to see what you have to say first. 212 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,764 Who's in charge of this case? 213 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,360 That would be Defective Superintendent Sean Memory. 214 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,369 B... 215 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:09,811 ...& wrap this up in... 216 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,127 in the next few hours, 217 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,049 any other charges against me... 218 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,043 ...various things in the past... 219 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,687 You're talking about car thefts, break-ins, bits and pieces? 220 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,800 Some moremsericus. 221 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,004 Will clearing this up be enough (o stop everything efse? 222 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,044 If Mr Memory is listening, the ball is in his court. 223 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,130 Get a print set up. If we can get a confession now, that's it... 224 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,924 ...no need for Fulcher. 225 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,761 Now, what I'm saying there, Chris, and I've signed it at the bottom... 226 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,721 ...is that I lead the investigation into Becky Godden. 227 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,083 I'm not aware of any other allegations against you. 228 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,046 And I'm not investigating you for any other of fence, apart from Becky. 229 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,801 If I clear this up, I don't want you coming back every two years saying, 230 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,241 "What about this? What about that?" 231 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,129 This interview is about one matter and one matter only. 232 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,641 But at this point in time... 233 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,331 ...I'm not aware of any other allegations against you. 234 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,531 OK. 235 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,161 Em... 236 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,971 Actually, before I do anything else... 237 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,646 ...I think I'd better get my solicitor to check it first. 238 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,411 Is that OK? 239 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:46,881 No, that's fine. 240 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,290 (He drops the pen on the table) 241 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,163 He's got no intention of clearing anything up. 242 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,725 He's playing with us. 243 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,047 He just wanted to know what we've got. 244 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,242 (Spoon tinkles on a glass) 245 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:09,965 Ladies and gentlemen... 246 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,241 ...my wife and I... 247 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,522 GUESTS: Whoooo! 248 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,847 (Applause) 249 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,247 ...would like to thank you all sincerely for coming. 250 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,010 It really is... 251 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,522 it's wonderful to have you all with us on this special day. 252 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,722 And I'd like to thank the children, 253 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,968 my three and Elaine's, 254 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,969 for being there for us... 255 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,684 ...through everything. 256 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,564 And of course... 257 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:36,840 ...I must mention Sian. 258 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,131 Now, we all remember those dark days when she went missing. 259 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,891 When there was nothing we could do but sit and hope. 260 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,211 Yeah, we'd get little bits and pieces of information, 261 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,324 but not the message that we really wanted to hear. 262 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,363 That she was safe and well... 263 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:58,851 ...and coming home. 264 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,246 - What was all that about? - I asked him, Jackie. 265 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,601 I said, "Please, don't talk about Sian too much." 266 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,121 But he had it all planned out in his head what he wanted to do. 267 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,402 He's planned everything today. He likes to be... 268 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,126 ...in control. He likes to organise everything. 269 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,528 - He likes to take over, more like. - I care about him a lot. I do. 270 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,210 He is a good person. 271 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,086 I don't want to be on my own, Jackie. I want to be married. 272 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:44,926 I know. 273 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,402 Halliwell has parted company with the lawyers who represented him at the first trial. 274 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,727 Really? Why would he do that? 275 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,640 Well, it would seem he has decided he wants to represent himself in court. 276 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,126 Bloody hell. 277 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,321 Precisely. 278 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,887 So, this morning, Halliwell finally issued an outline of his defence, 279 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,570 which he's composed himself. 280 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,330 We've been asking for it for weeks. 281 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,161 It says simply he has no knowledge of the death of Rebecca Godden, 282 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,001 nor any information regarding details of how she died. 283 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,726 I think we have our game-changer. 284 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,763 The confession now comes into play. 285 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,724 We can ask the new judge to reconsider admitting it. 286 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,409 An email came through this morning from the CPS 287 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,330 saying that Wiltshire Police have discovered new evidence 288 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,525 against Halliwell for Becky Goddenb murder and (hat he's been charged as a result. 289 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:54,009 But in the next breath they say they want to try and reintroduce the confession evidence. 290 00:17:54,120 --> 00:17:56,726 - You're joking? - Well, do you want an even bigger laugh? 291 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,729 If they do manage to get it ruled admissible, 292 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,650 they want me to come back and give evidence at the trial. 293 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,331 After all they've done to you, now they want you to help them out? 294 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,171 The new evidence obviously can't be that strong, can it? 295 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,129 It's not ever going (o end, is it? 296 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,651 For fuck's sake... 297 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:15,851 Oh, hello. Come in. 298 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,086 (Front door closes) 299 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,565 - Hi, Karen. - Hello. 300 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,762 - Come in, sit down. - No, no, I can't stay for long. 301 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,325 Mam... 302 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,124 I just came to tell you that we are hopeful 303 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,686 of finally bringing charges against Halliwell over Becky. 304 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,121 - (She gasps) - He's been arrested. 305 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,766 We're still working to strengthen the case against him. 306 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,121 But we think we can go to trial. 307 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,526 But how? 308 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:41,407 We've been working hard on the case and we've dug up plenty of new evidence. 309 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:42,806 Can we know what it is? 310 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,481 I can't say too much now, but the evidence is compelling. 311 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,570 There's a little way to go yet, but we're optimistic. 312 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,047 Oh, that is so fantastic! 313 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,889 We'd almost given up hope, hadn't we? 314 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,083 I will, of course, be in touch if there's any more news, OK? 315 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,601 Thanks for coming to tell us, Sean. 316 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,882 Well, it's important we're all on the same page, right? 317 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,923 - Well, thanks a million, Sean. - Yeah, thanks. 318 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,246 (Front door opens) 319 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,330 (Front door closes) 320 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,244 Oh, Charlie, I've... 321 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:15,249 I've got a knot in my tummy. 322 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:18,682 But why? We've just had the best bloody news you could hope for. 323 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,802 But what if it doesn't work again? 324 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,048 What if another ruling goes against us or something? 325 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,288 Because, if we don't get him this time, we never will. 326 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,086 Always the gloomiest way of looking at it, that's you! 327 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,684 Yeah, well, I've had that smashed into me, haven't I, over the years? 328 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,371 There hasn't been much to be optimistic about, has there? 329 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,850 Elaine, look at where you are right now. 330 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,849 What are you doing? 331 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,611 I mean, you've given up your job, you've even sold your car. 332 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:47,971 Pete prefers to drive. 333 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,246 (She sighs) 334 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,931 It's not right, Elaine. It's got to stop. 335 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,443 It's just you're not you any more. You don't even behave like you any more. 336 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,803 To be honest, I feel like I've had the stuffing knocked out of me. 337 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,241 I can't stand any sort of confrontation. 338 00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:08,648 There's just so much tension in the house. 339 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,842 I feel like I've lost all my confidence. 340 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,885 Thanks. 341 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:38,806 Hi. 342 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:39,921 Do you mind? 343 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,891 I just think I'm being an idiot for coming out and helping them. 344 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,970 You're not helping them out, though, are you? This isn't about them, is it? 345 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,526 Well, they deserve to be left on the beach, with the tide out, 346 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,041 looking like the fucking idiots they are. 347 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,083 But Karen doesn't. 348 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,565 But Karen doesn't. 349 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:10,724 You're doing the right thing. 350 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,286 Thank you. 351 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,330 Here. Cheers, Aiden. 352 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:46,487 Here. 353 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,251 Thanks, love. 354 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:50,771 We're going to go. 355 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,969 Don't you think it's better to wait and face him, rather than doing it like this? 356 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,764 I told him I was moving out today. 357 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,848 Yeah, but he didn't believe you, did he? 358 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,531 Look, I couldn't honestly handle him trying to talk me out of it. 359 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,127 - This way, it's much better. - It's not Pete's fault. 360 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,403 - I should never have married him. - So, why did you? 361 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,289 I just thought, after what's happened, 362 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,607 I needed someone to take control of my life for me. 363 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,927 It's the worst thing I could have done, all right? 364 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,170 - Oh, nice one. - (She sighs) 365 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,048 - (She knocks) - Mr Fulcher to see you. 366 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,525 Thank you. 367 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,608 - Sean. - Good to see you, Steve. 368 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:35,846 And you. 369 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,166 - Mr Fulcher. - Hi. 370 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,691 Take a seat, please. 371 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,729 I see you've got a suntan. 372 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,411 I see you've got Detective Superintendent. 373 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,888 Thanks for coming in today. We just wanted to give you some background on the trial. 374 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,968 Right, so, there's definitely going to be one? 375 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,482 Yes. And we are definitely going to need you to give evidence. 376 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,204 Well, I'm all ears. 377 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,607 Well, the pre-trial concluded this afternoon 378 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,291 and the new judge, Mr Justice Griffith Williams, 379 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:08,088 has ruled that the confession made to you by Halliwell will be admissible as evidence. 380 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,762 He was quite scathing of Mrs Justice Cox, who ruled against you last time. 381 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,847 Mm-hm. 382 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,203 Halliwell tried to have it excluded again, based on her original ruling, 383 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,529 but the new judge said that the confession was made voluntarily. 384 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,688 In his view, there was no oppression. 385 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,406 And to not allow it would offend good sense. 386 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,080 You see, I thought I'd lost my career because other people, 387 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,443 who should have known better, decided I'd done something terrible. 388 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,210 But now it seems, apparently, I haven't. 389 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,324 Look, I'd have understood if you'd told us to fuck off. 390 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,408 Yeah, that was never going to happen. 391 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,571 Hm... 392 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,122 So, how does your new Chief Constable feel about me being his star witness, then? 393 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:55,566 It's Elaine. 394 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,927 Mrs Edwards, you've been waiting for four years. 395 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,725 - How are you feeling about the trial? - Well, it's difficult. 396 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,205 But we hope it's going to go our way. 397 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,324 How do you feel about Halliwell representing himself, Mrs Edwards? 398 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,802 (Reporters shout questions) 399 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,971 When was the last time you saw your daughter, Mrs Edwards? 400 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,923 December 2002. 401 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,961 She would have been 21 the following April. 402 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,402 And I always thought she'd turn up for her 21st birthday, but she never did. 403 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,050 I got a card from her every Mothefs Day, without fail. 404 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,166 But from 2003 onwards, I never got one. 405 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,329 Becky was very petite. 406 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:00,681 She was only 4'11" tall and she could wear children's clothing. 407 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,247 You know, like, for 12 to 14-year-olds. 408 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,044 She was just a child, really. 409 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,129 Miss X, you have been granted anonymity today. 410 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,603 I understand you have a history of drug abuse and prostitution, 411 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,041 which is how you met Rebecca Godden. 412 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,969 That's correct, yes. 413 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,969 She was a friend of mine. 414 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,367 But you have turned your life around since then 415 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,529 and are now married with two children. 416 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,527 Yes. 417 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,211 And my husband knows nothing about my past life. 418 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,004 And yet you still came along today, 419 00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:39,761 even though your past could have been revealed to all and sundry. 420 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,042 I thought it was important. 421 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:44,725 I'm very grateful to you. 422 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,605 Please, stay where you are. 423 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,451 Mr Halliwell... 424 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,050 According to you... 425 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,401 ...I was besotted with Rebecca Godden. 426 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,726 Correct. 427 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,922 Even though I've never met her before. 428 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,644 (She mo“? 429 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,561 Sometimes you even give her money to stop her going with other men. 430 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,445 I remember, one night, you picked me up for sex, 431 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,688 you knew she was my mate and you said, 432 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,087 "Don't tell Becks about this." 433 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,720 Right, so I'm supposed to have had sex with you, too, yeah? 434 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,126 Yes. 435 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,730 Twice. 436 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:28,691 (He scoffs) 437 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,404 You see, I thinkthere's a chance... 438 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,090 ...that you could be mistaken. 439 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,728 So, take a long, hard look at me and confirm that the person you're talking about is me. 440 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,410 Because this is serious. 441 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:39,965 Is this a joke? 442 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,607 I am one hundred million percent sure it's you. 443 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,087 If we've had sex together twice... 444 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,369 ...what colour are my eyes? 445 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,364 I don't know. 446 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,323 What colourwere Becky's? 447 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,769 We compared soil found on the spade 448 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,531 in the garage at Christopher Halliwell's home address 449 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,328 with a sample of soil from the field where Rebecca Godden's body was found. 450 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,650 Becky was outside the club having some sort of argument with this taxi driver. 451 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,889 He was shouting at her. It went on for quite a while. 452 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,642 I'm pretty sure I heard him call her "a fucking slag", or words like that. 453 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,207 This row with the taxi driver, when was that? 454 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,290 Er, just after New Year 2003. 455 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,846 I'm pretty sure it was the 3rd, early in the morning. 456 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,522 In the end, the driver somehow persuaded her to get in the back and they drove off. 457 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,723 Did you get a look at the driver? 458 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,444 Not clearly, no. 459 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,609 And you never saw Rebecca again after that? 460 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:51,846 No. 461 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,200 Never. 462 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,563 Nor indeed have we been able to find anybody else who has, after that night. 463 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:00,486 Mr Halliwell... 464 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,250 Do you have any questions? 465 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,680 Yeah, erm... 466 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,724 The taxi she drove off in, 467 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,289 did it have a white illuminated sign on it saying, well, "Taxi"? 468 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,811 Yeah, it did. 469 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,324 Thank you. 470 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,649 Because, at that time, my car did not have a light on the roof. 471 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,285 So, thank you. 472 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,964 Thank you. 473 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,003 The court has now broken until tomorrow. 474 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,487 - If you could be back here for 9:00am? - Fine. 475 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,411 Yd heard most of that evidence before. Haddi you? 476 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,931 Mm. 477 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,089 We had all that back when Steve was around, as far as I can remember. 478 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,328 So, what have they been doing for the last five years? 479 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,330 All this new evidence! All they've got is Steve. 480 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,761 And he must be so nervous, after all this time, 481 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,689 wondering what Halliwell is going to say. 482 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,960 (Electric toothbrush whirs) 483 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,164 Tell us again, Mr Fulcher, what Christopher Halliwell (old you (hat day 484 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,486 about the second victim. 485 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,003 He said he had taken a prostitute from the Manchester Road area of Swindon, 486 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,441 had sex with her in the back of his taxi... 487 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,767 ...and then strangled her. 488 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,565 I said, "Was it similar to Sian?" He said, "Pretty much." 489 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,002 I asked if there were any other victims, I said, "Is it just these two?" 490 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,282 And he replied, "Isn't that enough?" 491 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,880 OK, let's pause there. 492 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,844 I'm sure Mr Halliwell has some questions for you. 493 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,571 I couldn't care less... 494 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,763 ...about not being cautioned by you. 495 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,202 - Sony? - It didn't bother me in the slightest that... 496 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,243 ...my rights were breached. 497 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,681 When I was arrested on 24th March, 498 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,690 that was the first day of a life sentence. 499 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,768 - (He clears his throat) - I knew that. 500 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,531 So, after I took you to Sian's body, everything after that... 501 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,170 ...well, that was about pure revenge. 502 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,850 I don't quite follow you. 503 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,884 Well, I didn't know about PACE and codes and all that, 504 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,731 but I knew enough to know that, if I asked to speak to a solicitor, 505 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,208 then everything else should stop until that's been given to me. 506 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,481 I knew that much. 507 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,126 I asked you six or seven times, 508 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,528 ifs all been recorded, and you kept refusing me. 509 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,642 I knew that was wrong. 510 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,286 I didn't care because I knew I could turn it to my advantage. 511 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,085 So, all that whole story... 512 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,487 ...about burying a girl in a field... 513 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,045 (He scoffs) 514 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,525 ...it was just a pack of lies. 515 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:55,044 Mr Halliwell, if you are alleging that revenge played a part in what happened that day, 516 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,049 you must explain yourself. 517 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,083 Yeah, in a minute, Your Honour. 518 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,603 I had no idea if there was a body buried in that field in Eastleach. 519 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,520 How could I if I'd never met Rebecca Godden in my life? 520 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,406 What happened was, at the end of 2001 , I started driving these fellas around. 521 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,806 Well... 522 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,763 ...drug dealers, they were. 523 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,770 But I never asked them any questions and they seemed to trust me. 524 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,487 Now, one night, at the end of March time 2003, 525 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,729 they directed me out to this field in Eastleach. 526 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,447 And they carried this big holdall out of the boot of my taxi into the field. 527 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,642 Now, I drove off. I came back for them later. 528 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,047 I never asked them what they were doing. 529 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,811 A few months later, I was driving one of them around 530 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,331 and he was drunk, right? 531 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,841 And he tells me that they had buried... 532 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,170 ...a prostitute in that field that night. 533 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,365 Now, I thought he was messing because he said it like it was nothing. 534 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,927 So, when I took you to that field in Eastleach, 535 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,805 I had no idea if there was a body buried there. 536 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,525 And I can prove it. 537 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,247 How deep down did I say the body was buried? 538 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,806 - You said five feet. - That's right. 539 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,207 And how deep was it actually buried? 540 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,243 Er, about eight inches, 541 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,328 because the bedrock was so close to the surface. 542 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,407 Yeah. 543 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,206 So, why would I say five feet if it was only eight inches? 544 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,130 Well, you also couldn't be sure when you had murdered Becky. 545 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,049 Cos I never did, cos I'd never met her. 546 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,323 You said it was in 2003, 2004 or 2005. 547 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,363 So what I surmised... 548 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,210 ...and from you getting wrong the depth that she was buried, 549 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,846 was that you had other victims that you had buried, 550 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,361 victims that we don't yet know about, 551 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,086 and that you became confused about which was which. 552 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,885 That's an absolute pack of lies. And you know that. 553 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,766 No, I know that you told me you had murdered a prostitute 554 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,769 and buried her in that field. 555 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,325 I believed... 556 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,966 ...in that moment, that you were contrite 557 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,050 - and that you wanted to unburden yourself. - That's ridiculous. 558 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,404 You said you could take me to the exact spot in that field where she was buried. 559 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,363 In fact, you were a few feet out, 560 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,881 but we later discovered the remains of Rebecca Godden 561 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,810 in that field that you had directed us to. 562 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,686 Well, I only said that because I wanted to get you in the shit. 563 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,883 We need to know why, Mr Halliwell. 564 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,809 Because he threatened my daughters. 565 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,888 - I did what? - You threatened my daughters. 566 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,650 And nobody threatens my kids! 567 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,240 - Absolute rubbish. - That's why I took you to that field. 568 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,442 Cos I knew for certain, if anything was found there, 569 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,724 then any third-rate solicitor would make mincemeat of the fact I hadn't been cautioned 570 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,604 and you'd be dropped right in it. 571 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,484 But you haven't told us what this threat was. 572 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,445 I'm not going to say. 573 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,562 You're not going to say? 574 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,444 No. 575 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:45,168 Don't you think it's rather important to tell us what it was? 576 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,282 Well, there's no point. 577 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,131 I can't prove it. It's my word against his. 578 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,281 I see. 579 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,722 So, do you have any more questions for Mr Fulcher? 580 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,446 Er... 581 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,201 No. 582 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:04,926 Very well. 583 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,644 This might be a good time to take a break. 584 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,842 Er, just one more thing. Erm... 585 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,362 It was a pleasure ruining your career, you corrupt bastard. 586 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,401 "I do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm 587 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:41,924 "that the evidence I give shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth." 588 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,731 You really loathe Mr Fulcher, don't you? 589 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,525 Absolutely. 590 00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:05,961 You blame him for your confessions, don't you? 591 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,084 I'm responsible for my own actions. I've faced up to what I did to Sian. 592 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,531 No, but you see, you haven't. 593 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,723 You've never given a proper account of what happened when Sian died, 594 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,004 other than some nonsensical claim that she tried to grab your steering wheel 595 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,522 and then you went to punch her without realising you had a knife in your hand. 596 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:28,645 You abducted her for sexual purposes, just as you did Rebecca. 597 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,524 Er, that's ludicrous. 598 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,642 - It was an accident. - Was it'? 599 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,843 Is that why her leggings and knickers were pulled down 600 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,928 and her bra was missing? 601 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,725 Listen, I came here to tell the truth. 602 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,764 It doesn't matter to me if the jury believes me or not. 603 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,121 Yes, you keep saying that. But that's not true, either. 604 00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:50,403 You received 25 years for the murder of Sian 0'Callaghan. 605 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:55,208 But there is at least a chance you could be released, albeit you'd be in your 70s. 606 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,529 If you're found guilty of Rebecca's murder, then you will never be released. 607 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,291 So, actually, there's rather a lot riding on this. 608 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,530 Which is why you've constructed this fantasy account of how you led the police to her body. 609 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,002 It's what happened. 610 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,727 Yes. Except, for it to be true, you have to try and convince the jury 611 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,411 you have never met Rebecca Godden. 612 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,364 I... I haven't. 613 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,370 Which is why you're so desperate to try and rebut the evidence of Miss X, 614 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,768 whom you inconveniently had sex with on two occasions. 615 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,531 I've never set eyes on her before and, to be honest... 616 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:30,961 - ...she's not my type. - Not your type? 617 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,525 What is your type, then? 618 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,371 Well, certainly not that thin. 619 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,849 Is your type size eight? 620 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,645 Size ten? 621 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,085 Pretty, young women who are out and about on the streets of Swindon 622 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,283 in the early hours of the morning, is that your type? 623 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,927 About five feet, five feet two inches tail, 624 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,451 on their own... 625 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,891 ...vulnerable. 626 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,209 Is that your type? 627 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:34,926 (Phone vibrates) 628 00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:01,049 WOMAN: Foreman of the jury, 629 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,164 have you reached a verdict upon which you are all agreed? 630 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,690 We have. 631 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,531 Do you find the defendant, Christopher Halliwell, 632 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,530 guilty or not guilty of murder? 633 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,244 - Guilty. - (She gasps) 634 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,882 (Dialogue is muted) 635 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,084 Christopher John Halliwell... 636 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:34,802 ...you have been convicted by a jury for the murder of Rebecca Godden. 637 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,207 I observe that you lied to this jury 638 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,847 about the circumstances of the murder of Rebecca Godden, 639 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,486 just as you lied to the jury 640 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,683 about the circumstances of the murder of Sian O'Callaghan. 641 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:52,805 I have concluded that the level of your offending is exceptionally high 642 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,844 and direct there will be a whole life order. 643 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,530 Take him down. 644 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,886 - Where's Yvonne gone? - Oh, she's gone to find Steve. 645 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,485 (Door opens) 646 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,042 - Whole life? - Yeah. 647 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,126 (He exhales slowly and heavily) 648 00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:42,961 The judge said his account made no sense at all. He lied and lied. 649 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,564 He was right, though. 650 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,648 He did ruin me. 651 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,082 I mean, it occurred to me, when I was facing him in court, 652 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,929 that we cancelled each other out. 653 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,522 That day, in order to bring him down, it was like I had to also lose everything. 654 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,529 As if it was some sort of pact between us. 655 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,647 Karen, we wondered if you could say something to the press. 656 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,525 I've drafted some thoughts for you. 657 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,087 I wondered if you and John could make a joint statement, mother and father together. 658 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,726 Right. Because I'm not giving up, not till the truth comes out. 659 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,684 - What? - That wasn't a trial, that was a travesty. 660 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,882 What about the drug dealers Chris was talking about? 661 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,570 Has anybody been looking for them? 662 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,081 Was Fulcher involved with them? We need answers. 663 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,129 I'm not doing a joint statement with John. 664 00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:42,765 You're on your own with him. 665 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,201 And I don't need your notes. I know what I'm going to say. 666 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,370 Steven... 667 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,201 - (Cameras click) - Can you take my bag? 668 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,204 I want to place on record my thanks for the team 669 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,210 led by Detective Superintendent Sean Memory, 670 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,210 who have brought this case to a positive conclusion today. 671 00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:15,801 We have waited over five years for this moment. 672 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,208 This has been an extremely painful journey, 673 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:26,522 but at last we have finally received justice for our beautiful little girl Becky. 674 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,007 Sean and his team were left with virtually nothing to go on 675 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,691 after the evidence, initially gathered by Steve Fuicher, 676 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,962 had to be thrown out virtually in its entirety. 677 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,971 I want to thank, from the bottom of my heart, Steve Fulcher. 678 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:45,730 I will always be indebted to him for bringing my little girl home. 679 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,207 They worked tirelessly with the Crown Prosecution Sen/ice 680 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,561 to uncover new evidence and bring this case to justice. 681 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,762 They are to be congratulated. 682 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,771 But Steve should never have suffered the terrible consequences, 683 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:01,442 the loss of his reputation, the loss of his career... 684 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,166 ...just for doing the right thing. 685 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:07,607 Thank you. 686 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,207 (Reporters shout questions) 687 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,843 Goon Go and talk to her. 688 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,765 I can't. 689 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,204 She's all right, you know? 690 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,765 Like you, really. 691 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,727 I just can't. It's too close. 692 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,163 WOMAN: Steve Fulcher, this has been a landmark case in many ways. 693 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,409 And I know it's been a difficulf journey for you, personally. 694 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,443 But how do you respond to those who say 695 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,962 we cannot have (he police riding roughshod over the rights of a suspect 696 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,401 - as if it were the 1970s again? - K agree. 697 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,081 I agree. But what if next time it's your daughter who's gone missing? 698 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:12,650 And if another police officer finds himself in the position I was in, what does he do? 699 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,049 Now, after what's happened to me, he would be perfectly entitled to give up on her, 700 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,322 to take his suspect back to the police station 701 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,761 and let a lawyer advise him to go, "No comment." 702 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,920 Now, if she was still alive, your daughter would then inevitably die. 703 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,564 And the police's official position on this seems to be, 704 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,330 "So be it. 705 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,091 "We're very sorry, but she'll just have to die, then." 706 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,602 Is that what we want? 707 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:18,609 Subtitles by TVT