1 00:00:06,023 --> 00:00:11,023 Subtitles by explosiveskull www.OpenSubtitles.org 2 00:00:24,966 --> 00:00:28,805 Steve Fulcher was found guilty of two counts of gross misconduct 3 00:00:28,806 --> 00:00:32,093 and received two final written warnings. 4 00:00:32,094 --> 00:00:34,013 He chose not to appeal 5 00:00:34,014 --> 00:00:35,933 and made the decision to resign from the force. 6 00:00:35,934 --> 00:00:38,333 I think we should all remember that. He was not sacked. 7 00:00:38,334 --> 00:00:39,773 He chose to leave. 8 00:00:39,774 --> 00:00:42,053 There has been much speculation by Fulcher 9 00:00:42,054 --> 00:00:43,589 and, consequently, the media, 10 00:00:43,590 --> 00:00:46,493 in relation to possible other victims of Christopher Halliwell. 11 00:00:46,494 --> 00:00:48,093 We at Wiltshire Police 12 00:00:48,094 --> 00:00:50,501 made the ethical decision to maintain a position 13 00:00:50,502 --> 00:00:54,813 of not rising to these sensational and unsubstantiated claims 14 00:00:54,814 --> 00:00:57,605 because we believe this would lead to a media frenzy. 15 00:00:57,606 --> 00:01:01,061 The murder of Becky Godden has raised a number of issues, 16 00:01:01,062 --> 00:01:03,613 including the Police And Criminal Evidence Act, 17 00:01:03,614 --> 00:01:05,861 which was introduced in 1984. 18 00:01:05,862 --> 00:01:08,093 I believe that, if PACE is ethically followed 19 00:01:08,094 --> 00:01:10,277 and delivered in line with the codes of practice, 20 00:01:10,278 --> 00:01:14,117 the right outcomes can be achieved without evidence being inadmissible. 21 00:01:14,118 --> 00:01:16,069 FLURRY OF QUESTIONS 22 00:01:51,366 --> 00:01:53,533 OK, gentlemen, I am now going to take you through 23 00:01:53,534 --> 00:01:56,549 the basic stages of the intelligence cycle. 24 00:01:56,550 --> 00:01:59,133 Stage one will be planning and direction, 25 00:01:59,134 --> 00:02:03,653 in which we evaluate opportunities and decide on strategy. 26 00:02:03,654 --> 00:02:05,654 Er, do you want to...? HE SPEAKS IN ARABIC 27 00:02:14,814 --> 00:02:17,373 Thank you. So, that's planning and direction. 28 00:02:17,374 --> 00:02:18,653 Next, collection... 29 00:02:18,654 --> 00:02:24,581 LOUD EXPLOSION 30 00:02:24,582 --> 00:02:26,117 Is this the same one? 31 00:02:26,118 --> 00:02:32,645 Yeah. 32 00:02:32,646 --> 00:02:36,101 Christ... Do you ever get used to that? 33 00:02:36,102 --> 00:02:38,021 OK. Er, as I was saying, 34 00:02:38,022 --> 00:02:40,901 stage two is collection. 35 00:02:40,902 --> 00:02:42,653 When? Yesterday. 36 00:02:42,654 --> 00:02:45,373 I've told you before, don't believe everything you read. 37 00:02:45,374 --> 00:02:48,093 It's perfectly safe. Don't worry. It was on BBC News. 38 00:02:48,094 --> 00:02:50,013 There was a suicide bomb in Benghazi 39 00:02:50,014 --> 00:02:53,765 only about half a mile from your barracks. 40 00:02:53,766 --> 00:02:57,413 It's news to me. 41 00:02:57,414 --> 00:03:00,677 How have you been? 42 00:03:00,678 --> 00:03:02,813 I'm really enjoying it. I'm... 43 00:03:02,814 --> 00:03:04,573 ..feeling pretty chilled, actually. 44 00:03:04,574 --> 00:03:06,437 And at least I'm wanted here. 45 00:03:06,438 --> 00:03:08,741 I know you couldn't care less, but Debs Peach told me 46 00:03:08,742 --> 00:03:11,429 Pat Geenty's retired for personal reasons 47 00:03:11,430 --> 00:03:13,373 and Mike Veale is now Chief Constable. 48 00:03:13,374 --> 00:03:16,893 I just thought you could do with a laugh. 49 00:03:16,894 --> 00:03:18,341 You know what? You're right. 50 00:03:18,342 --> 00:03:23,333 I really... couldn't care less any more. 51 00:03:23,334 --> 00:03:25,853 Well, that's all my news. 52 00:03:25,854 --> 00:03:28,573 We love you very much and can't wait to see you. 53 00:03:28,574 --> 00:03:31,293 I've got to go because I'm meeting the girls at the cinema tonight. 54 00:03:31,294 --> 00:03:32,741 OK. 55 00:03:32,742 --> 00:03:34,173 All right... 56 00:03:34,174 --> 00:03:36,581 Give them my love. 57 00:03:36,582 --> 00:03:38,173 I love you. 58 00:03:38,174 --> 00:03:40,253 Please, be careful. 59 00:03:40,254 --> 00:03:49,253 Mm-hm. 60 00:03:49,254 --> 00:03:50,493 LINE RINGS Hello? 61 00:03:50,494 --> 00:03:51,557 Debs... 62 00:03:51,558 --> 00:03:54,053 What the fuck is going on? I wondered when you'd find out. 63 00:03:54,054 --> 00:03:56,573 They've finally given Mike Veale the top job? 64 00:03:56,574 --> 00:03:58,853 And he's already been talking about you. 65 00:03:58,854 --> 00:04:00,253 Blaming you for the fact 66 00:04:00,254 --> 00:04:02,885 they still haven't charged Halliwell over Becky Godden. 67 00:04:02,886 --> 00:04:05,213 They've had years to come up with enough evidence. 68 00:04:05,214 --> 00:04:07,773 It's all wearing a bit thin, this, isn't it, still blaming me? 69 00:04:07,774 --> 00:04:09,029 Yeah. 70 00:04:09,030 --> 00:04:11,453 What happened with that stuff they dug up at the lake... 71 00:04:11,454 --> 00:04:13,253 ..at Ramsbury? 60 items of clothing. 72 00:04:13,254 --> 00:04:15,941 You'd think they'd have assigned a big team to it, wouldn't you? 73 00:04:15,942 --> 00:04:17,533 Oh, what...? 74 00:04:17,534 --> 00:04:19,133 They haven't done anything? 75 00:04:19,134 --> 00:04:22,277 Let's just say, apparently, there hasn't been much progress. 76 00:04:22,278 --> 00:04:24,581 They've only just put a small team on it. 77 00:04:24,582 --> 00:04:26,885 And it's being headed up by Sean Memory, 78 00:04:26,886 --> 00:04:29,213 who's now a Detective Superintendent, by the way. 79 00:04:29,214 --> 00:04:30,973 Do you know what, I think I'd rather be here 80 00:04:30,974 --> 00:04:32,453 with mad Libyans throwing bombs at me 81 00:04:32,454 --> 00:04:34,373 than anywhere near Gable fucking Cross. 82 00:04:34,374 --> 00:04:36,293 How long are you out there for? 83 00:04:36,294 --> 00:04:39,749 I've got another six months. 84 00:04:39,750 --> 00:04:44,253 And don't mention anything about bombs to Yvonne. 85 00:04:44,254 --> 00:04:51,933 Please. 86 00:04:51,934 --> 00:04:55,493 CHARLIE: Karen? 87 00:04:55,494 --> 00:04:59,141 Come on, love, we'd better get going. 88 00:04:59,142 --> 00:05:03,173 Let's at least hear what he's got to say. 89 00:05:03,174 --> 00:05:05,373 I've written an open letter to Halliwell 90 00:05:05,374 --> 00:05:07,973 asking him to tell the truth about what he did to Becky. 91 00:05:07,974 --> 00:05:11,453 I'm not expecting a response, but I just... 92 00:05:11,454 --> 00:05:15,461 ..have to try to keep her in the public eye. 93 00:05:15,462 --> 00:05:17,765 Cos she doesn't matter as much as Sian, you see? 94 00:05:17,766 --> 00:05:20,453 Because Sian was just a normal girl who worked in an office. 95 00:05:20,454 --> 00:05:21,989 A good girl. 96 00:05:21,990 --> 00:05:25,061 But Becky was a bad girl. 97 00:05:25,062 --> 00:05:27,773 A bad little girl who must have deserved it.Karen... 98 00:05:27,774 --> 00:05:30,173 Well, I know that's what everyone thinks! 99 00:05:30,174 --> 00:05:33,053 Listen to me. 100 00:05:33,054 --> 00:05:36,773 I am convinced that, because of you, the Police and Crime Commissioner 101 00:05:36,774 --> 00:05:38,693 is pressuring Wiltshire Police 102 00:05:38,694 --> 00:05:41,693 into looking for new evidence to bring Halliwell to trial. 103 00:05:41,694 --> 00:05:43,933 So, whatever it is you're doing, it's working. 104 00:05:43,934 --> 00:05:47,717 Oh, God... There, you see? 105 00:05:47,718 --> 00:05:49,533 Oh, thank you very much. Thank you. 106 00:05:49,534 --> 00:05:50,614 I won't give up. 107 00:06:10,374 --> 00:06:17,477 DOORBELL CHIMES 108 00:06:17,478 --> 00:06:19,013 Hi, Kev. Hi, Elaine. 109 00:06:19,014 --> 00:06:20,272 How are you? 110 00:06:30,974 --> 00:06:33,853 Are you OK, love? 111 00:06:33,854 --> 00:06:38,333 I'm just feeling it a bit at the moment. 112 00:06:38,334 --> 00:06:39,941 It's been hard. 113 00:06:39,942 --> 00:06:41,861 You get people in the pub 114 00:06:41,862 --> 00:06:44,413 who think they're trying to be nice, rather than spiteful, 115 00:06:44,414 --> 00:06:47,429 but they say, "Don't you wish you'd gone out with her that night?" 116 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:49,373 I ask myself that all the time. 117 00:06:49,374 --> 00:06:52,421 You mustn't think about it like that, Kev. 118 00:06:52,422 --> 00:06:55,109 She died because of Christopher Halliwell, not anybody else. 119 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:58,813 Certainly not you. 120 00:06:58,814 --> 00:07:00,733 Is that what you wanted to see me about? 121 00:07:00,734 --> 00:07:04,253 Because that's easy to deal with. 122 00:07:04,254 --> 00:07:06,821 No, it's not that. 123 00:07:06,822 --> 00:07:10,853 Well, what, then, love? 124 00:07:10,854 --> 00:07:19,301 I'm seeing somebody else. 125 00:07:19,302 --> 00:07:23,525 Oh. I'm sorry. 126 00:07:23,526 --> 00:07:26,213 Listen to me, you must never apologise 127 00:07:26,214 --> 00:07:28,413 for getting on with your life. 128 00:07:28,414 --> 00:07:30,245 I feel so bloody guilty. 129 00:07:30,246 --> 00:07:32,357 No! 130 00:07:32,358 --> 00:07:35,133 Sian's not here. 131 00:07:35,134 --> 00:07:41,381 What are you supposed to do, pine for her for the rest of your life? 132 00:07:41,382 --> 00:07:43,301 It's a comfort to me that she knew what it was 133 00:07:43,302 --> 00:07:49,693 to share a life with someone, that she was loved and cherished. 134 00:07:49,694 --> 00:07:53,693 But now she's gone and... 135 00:07:53,694 --> 00:07:56,357 ..I'm glad for you that you have someone else. 136 00:07:56,358 --> 00:07:58,853 I had to come here and tell you about Emma 137 00:07:58,854 --> 00:08:01,053 before you found out from anyone else. 138 00:08:01,054 --> 00:08:06,173 Is that her name, Emma? 139 00:08:06,174 --> 00:08:09,693 Why don't you bring her to the wedding? 140 00:08:09,694 --> 00:08:12,573 Are you sure? 141 00:08:12,574 --> 00:08:14,813 Please. It's important to me. 142 00:08:14,814 --> 00:08:17,533 Bring her, Kev. 143 00:08:17,534 --> 00:08:21,125 I can meet her before, if you like. Take the pressure off. 144 00:08:21,126 --> 00:08:22,818 Thank you. 145 00:08:31,774 --> 00:08:33,693 And this is everything you have? 146 00:08:33,694 --> 00:08:35,773 Well, we do have some other leads we're following up, 147 00:08:35,774 --> 00:08:37,637 but basically, yes, it is. 148 00:08:37,638 --> 00:08:40,325 I thought there were some items recovered from a pond 149 00:08:40,326 --> 00:08:41,861 with Sian's boots. 150 00:08:41,862 --> 00:08:43,453 Does any of that relate to Becky? 151 00:08:43,454 --> 00:08:45,893 We did find some stuff, yeah. But a lot of it had rotted. 152 00:08:45,894 --> 00:08:48,965 And we've not been able to match any of it yet to Becky's clothing 153 00:08:48,966 --> 00:08:52,253 or descriptions of clothing of any missing persons, so... 154 00:08:52,254 --> 00:08:55,933 I'd say we've got enough here to re-arrest and charge 155 00:08:55,934 --> 00:08:58,565 and get it to court. Mm-hm. 156 00:08:58,566 --> 00:09:01,853 But maybe not enough to convince a jury to convict. 157 00:09:01,854 --> 00:09:02,981 Right. 158 00:09:02,982 --> 00:09:05,861 It's all consistent with Halliwell having murdered Rebecca Godden. 159 00:09:05,862 --> 00:09:08,741 And this prostitute who links the two of them is helpful. 160 00:09:08,742 --> 00:09:12,005 But nothing actually says he did it. 161 00:09:12,006 --> 00:09:16,421 The elephant in the room is, of course, the confession. 162 00:09:16,422 --> 00:09:18,973 Well, that was ruled inadmissible, so... Wrongly. 163 00:09:18,974 --> 00:09:20,261 In my opinion. 164 00:09:20,262 --> 00:09:23,613 But with a different judge, a different set of circumstances, 165 00:09:23,614 --> 00:09:26,213 there may be a way we can get it allowed this time round. 166 00:09:26,214 --> 00:09:28,413 How? The key, ironically enough, 167 00:09:28,414 --> 00:09:30,821 is for Halliwell to come out and say, "I didn't do it." 168 00:09:30,822 --> 00:09:34,085 Remember, he's never had to actually state a defence for Rebecca Godden 169 00:09:34,086 --> 00:09:36,197 because the case was thrown out. 170 00:09:36,198 --> 00:09:39,461 He'll probably stay silent and just challenge us to make our case, 171 00:09:39,462 --> 00:09:40,893 as is his right. 172 00:09:40,894 --> 00:09:43,133 But if he now tries to claim he's never met her, 173 00:09:43,134 --> 00:09:45,989 or words to that effect, that's the game-changer. 174 00:09:45,990 --> 00:09:49,061 His confession directly contradicts this. So, it's unlikely, of course. 175 00:09:49,062 --> 00:09:52,133 Any lawyer worth his salt would advise him to keep his mouth shut. 176 00:09:52,134 --> 00:09:55,453 But if he did, that gives us the grounds to ask the judge 177 00:09:55,454 --> 00:09:58,661 to revisit the original ruling. 178 00:09:58,662 --> 00:10:01,733 If that happens, Steve Fulcher would have to give evidence. 179 00:10:01,734 --> 00:10:04,421 And his relationship with Wiltshire Police is not great, 180 00:10:04,422 --> 00:10:06,973 to say the least. 181 00:10:06,974 --> 00:10:09,797 It's by far the strongest evidence we have. 182 00:10:09,798 --> 00:10:17,793 HE SIGHS 183 00:10:17,794 --> 00:10:21,001 DOORBELL CHIMES 184 00:10:21,002 --> 00:10:23,113 Mum, don't embarrass me, OK? 185 00:10:23,114 --> 00:10:27,145 I really like this one. 186 00:10:27,146 --> 00:10:30,985 Hey! Hey... 187 00:10:30,986 --> 00:10:32,329 Mum... 188 00:10:32,330 --> 00:10:34,441 This is Kev. Hiya. 189 00:10:34,442 --> 00:10:35,977 Hi, Kev. Nice to meet you. 190 00:10:35,978 --> 00:10:37,129 And you. 191 00:10:37,130 --> 00:10:38,753 Do you want a cuppa? 192 00:10:38,754 --> 00:10:48,353 Please, yeah. 193 00:10:48,354 --> 00:10:51,393 Elaine... This is Emma. 194 00:10:51,394 --> 00:10:53,313 Pleased to meet you, love. Thanks. 195 00:10:53,314 --> 00:10:55,233 Sorry it's in such difficult circumstances. 196 00:10:55,234 --> 00:10:57,865 Well, that's not your fault, is it? Come on, sit down. 197 00:10:57,866 --> 00:11:00,033 Coffee? Yeah, please. 198 00:11:00,034 --> 00:11:06,505 Two coffees, please. 199 00:11:06,506 --> 00:11:08,833 So... 200 00:11:08,834 --> 00:11:11,305 How did you meet? Tell me everything. 201 00:11:11,306 --> 00:11:14,593 Erm, just round a friend's house. 202 00:11:14,594 --> 00:11:16,513 We got chatting and it sort of clicked. 203 00:11:16,514 --> 00:11:18,025 We went out a few times. 204 00:11:18,026 --> 00:11:20,713 I done her a chicken pasta and that sealed the deal. 205 00:11:20,714 --> 00:11:24,193 Kev's a really good cook. 206 00:11:24,194 --> 00:11:25,705 You're not so bad. 207 00:11:25,706 --> 00:11:29,067 She's brilliant, Elaine. He's just being kind, honestly. 208 00:11:37,314 --> 00:11:40,353 So, how's the wedding stuff going, then, Elaine? 209 00:11:40,354 --> 00:11:43,388 Getting there. Actually, I'm just going to go to the loo. 210 00:11:58,730 --> 00:12:02,015 SHE SOBS QUIETLY 211 00:12:08,994 --> 00:12:15,553 SHE STARTS TO SOB LOUDLY 212 00:12:15,554 --> 00:12:21,473 DOOR SWINGS OPEN 213 00:12:21,474 --> 00:12:27,145 LOUD SOBBING 214 00:12:27,146 --> 00:12:34,825 SOBBING CONTINUES 215 00:12:34,826 --> 00:12:36,553 Christopher John Halliwell, 216 00:12:36,554 --> 00:12:38,753 I'm arresting you for the murder of Rebecca Godden, 217 00:12:38,754 --> 00:12:39,873 contrary to common law. 218 00:12:39,874 --> 00:12:41,793 You do not have to say anything, 219 00:12:41,794 --> 00:12:44,041 but it may harm your defence if you do not mention, 220 00:12:44,042 --> 00:12:46,921 when questioned, something which you later rely on in court. 221 00:12:46,922 --> 00:12:48,841 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 222 00:12:48,842 --> 00:12:50,113 Do you understand? 223 00:12:50,114 --> 00:12:51,145 HE SNIFFS 224 00:12:51,146 --> 00:12:52,297 Mm. 225 00:12:52,298 --> 00:12:55,177 OK, I'm going to take you now to Worcester Police Station, 226 00:12:55,178 --> 00:12:58,057 where you will be interviewed in the presence of a solicitor. 227 00:12:58,058 --> 00:12:59,401 I don't want a solicitor. 228 00:12:59,402 --> 00:13:02,281 Pardon? 229 00:13:02,282 --> 00:13:04,969 I don't want a solicitor. 230 00:13:04,970 --> 00:13:10,153 I want to see what you have to say first. 231 00:13:10,154 --> 00:13:11,881 Who's in charge of this case? 232 00:13:11,882 --> 00:13:14,433 That would be Detective Superintendent Sean Memory. 233 00:13:14,434 --> 00:13:16,353 If... 234 00:13:16,354 --> 00:13:18,793 ..I wrap this up in... 235 00:13:18,794 --> 00:13:21,153 ..in the next few hours, 236 00:13:21,154 --> 00:13:24,193 any other charges against me... 237 00:13:24,194 --> 00:13:26,113 ..various things in the past... 238 00:13:26,114 --> 00:13:33,193 You're talking about car thefts, break-ins, bits and pieces? 239 00:13:33,194 --> 00:13:36,841 Some more... serious. 240 00:13:36,842 --> 00:13:41,065 Will clearing this up be enough to stop everything else? 241 00:13:41,066 --> 00:13:47,073 If Mr Memory is listening, the ball is in his court. 242 00:13:47,074 --> 00:13:50,113 Get a print set up. If we can get a confession now, that's it... 243 00:13:50,114 --> 00:13:52,009 ..no need for Fulcher. 244 00:13:52,010 --> 00:13:57,193 Now, what I'm saying there, Chris, and I've signed it at the bottom... 245 00:13:57,194 --> 00:13:59,713 ..is that I lead the investigation into Becky Godden. 246 00:13:59,714 --> 00:14:03,145 I'm not aware of any other allegations against you. 247 00:14:03,146 --> 00:14:08,137 And I'm not investigating you for any other offence, apart from Becky. 248 00:14:08,138 --> 00:14:11,873 If I clear this up, I don't want you coming back every two years saying, 249 00:14:11,874 --> 00:14:15,873 "What about this? What about that?" 250 00:14:15,874 --> 00:14:20,353 This interview is about one matter and one matter only. 251 00:14:20,354 --> 00:14:22,729 But at this point in time... 252 00:14:22,730 --> 00:14:25,642 ..I'm not aware of any other allegations against you. 253 00:14:34,114 --> 00:14:39,049 OK. 254 00:14:39,050 --> 00:14:41,353 Erm... 255 00:14:41,354 --> 00:14:45,001 Actually, before I do anything else... 256 00:14:45,002 --> 00:14:49,033 ..I think I'd better get my solicitor to check it first. 257 00:14:49,034 --> 00:14:53,641 Is that OK? 258 00:14:53,642 --> 00:14:56,521 No, that's fine. 259 00:14:56,522 --> 00:15:01,321 HE DROPS THE PEN ON THE TABLE 260 00:15:01,322 --> 00:15:03,241 He's got no intention of clearing anything up. 261 00:15:03,242 --> 00:15:05,793 He's playing with us. 262 00:15:05,794 --> 00:15:13,033 He just wanted to know what we've got. 263 00:15:13,034 --> 00:15:16,353 SPOON TINKLES ON A GLASS 264 00:15:16,354 --> 00:15:19,073 Ladies and gentlemen... 265 00:15:19,074 --> 00:15:20,329 ..my wife and I... 266 00:15:20,330 --> 00:15:22,633 GUESTS: Whoooo! 267 00:15:22,634 --> 00:15:24,937 APPLAUSE 268 00:15:24,938 --> 00:15:27,241 ..would like to thank you all sincerely for coming. 269 00:15:27,242 --> 00:15:28,993 It really is... 270 00:15:28,994 --> 00:15:32,617 It's wonderful to have you all with us on this special day. 271 00:15:32,618 --> 00:15:34,753 And I'd like to thank the children, 272 00:15:34,754 --> 00:15:37,033 my three and Elaine's, 273 00:15:37,034 --> 00:15:38,953 for being there for us... 274 00:15:38,954 --> 00:15:40,681 ..through everything. 275 00:15:40,682 --> 00:15:43,561 And of course... 276 00:15:43,562 --> 00:15:46,249 ..I must mention Sian. 277 00:15:46,250 --> 00:15:50,113 Now, we all remember those dark days when she went missing. 278 00:15:50,114 --> 00:15:56,425 When there was nothing we could do but sit and hope. 279 00:15:56,426 --> 00:15:59,305 Yeah, we'd get little bits and pieces of information, 280 00:15:59,306 --> 00:16:02,377 but not the message that we really wanted to hear. 281 00:16:02,378 --> 00:16:05,313 That she was safe and well... 282 00:16:05,314 --> 00:16:06,809 ..and coming home. 283 00:16:22,594 --> 00:16:26,273 What was all that about? I asked him, Jackie. 284 00:16:26,274 --> 00:16:28,681 I said, "Please, don't talk about Sian too much." 285 00:16:28,682 --> 00:16:31,177 But he had it all planned out in his head what he wanted to do. 286 00:16:31,178 --> 00:16:34,441 He's planned everything today. He likes to be... 287 00:16:34,442 --> 00:16:38,113 ..in control. He likes to organise everything. 288 00:16:38,114 --> 00:16:41,545 He likes to take over, more like. I care about him a lot. I do. 289 00:16:41,546 --> 00:16:46,433 He is a good person. 290 00:16:46,434 --> 00:16:51,721 I don't want to be on my own, Jackie. I want to be married. 291 00:16:51,722 --> 00:16:58,913 I know. 292 00:16:58,914 --> 00:17:00,833 Halliwell has parted company with the lawyers 293 00:17:00,834 --> 00:17:02,473 who represented him at the first trial. 294 00:17:02,474 --> 00:17:04,777 Really? Why would he do that? 295 00:17:04,778 --> 00:17:06,593 Well, it would seem he has decided 296 00:17:06,594 --> 00:17:09,793 he wants to represent himself in court. 297 00:17:09,794 --> 00:17:12,073 Bloody hell. 298 00:17:12,074 --> 00:17:13,417 Precisely. 299 00:17:13,418 --> 00:17:16,873 So, this morning, Halliwell finally issued an outline of his defence, 300 00:17:16,874 --> 00:17:18,601 which he's composed himself. 301 00:17:18,602 --> 00:17:20,353 We've been asking for it for weeks. 302 00:17:20,354 --> 00:17:24,193 It says simply he has no knowledge of the death of Rebecca Godden, 303 00:17:24,194 --> 00:17:31,081 nor any information regarding details of how she died. 304 00:17:31,082 --> 00:17:33,793 I think we have our game-changer. 305 00:17:33,794 --> 00:17:35,881 The confession now comes into play. 306 00:17:35,882 --> 00:17:39,011 We can ask the new judge to reconsider admitting it. 307 00:17:47,234 --> 00:17:50,473 An email came through this morning from the CPS 308 00:17:50,474 --> 00:17:53,353 saying that Wiltshire Police have discovered new evidence 309 00:17:53,354 --> 00:17:55,657 against Halliwell for Becky Godden's murder 310 00:17:55,658 --> 00:17:57,633 and that he's been charged as a result. 311 00:17:57,634 --> 00:17:59,553 But in the next breath they say 312 00:17:59,554 --> 00:18:01,993 they want to try and reintroduce the confession evidence. 313 00:18:01,994 --> 00:18:04,681 You're joking? Well, do you want an even bigger laugh? 314 00:18:04,682 --> 00:18:06,793 If they do manage to get it ruled admissible, 315 00:18:06,794 --> 00:18:09,673 they want me to come back and give evidence at the trial. 316 00:18:09,674 --> 00:18:13,513 After all they've done to you, now they want you to help them out? 317 00:18:13,514 --> 00:18:17,161 The new evidence obviously can't be that strong, can it? 318 00:18:17,162 --> 00:18:19,081 It's not ever going to end, is it? 319 00:18:19,082 --> 00:18:21,793 For fuck's sake... 320 00:18:21,794 --> 00:18:24,073 Oh, hello. Come in. 321 00:18:24,074 --> 00:18:26,185 FRONT DOOR CLOSES 322 00:18:26,186 --> 00:18:27,553 Hi, Karen. Hello. 323 00:18:27,554 --> 00:18:29,833 Come in, sit down. No, no, I can't stay for long. 324 00:18:29,834 --> 00:18:31,393 I, erm... 325 00:18:31,394 --> 00:18:33,153 I just came to tell you that we are hopeful 326 00:18:33,154 --> 00:18:35,785 of finally bringing charges against Halliwell over Becky. 327 00:18:35,786 --> 00:18:38,113 SHE GASPS He's been arrested. 328 00:18:38,114 --> 00:18:40,833 We're still working to strengthen the case against him. 329 00:18:40,834 --> 00:18:43,081 But we think we can go to trial. 330 00:18:43,082 --> 00:18:46,345 But how? We've been working hard on the case 331 00:18:46,346 --> 00:18:49,473 and we've dug up plenty of new evidence. 332 00:18:49,474 --> 00:18:52,681 Can we know what it is? I can't say too much now, 333 00:18:52,682 --> 00:18:54,601 but the evidence is compelling. 334 00:18:54,602 --> 00:18:57,673 There's a little way to go yet, but we're optimistic. 335 00:18:57,674 --> 00:19:00,993 Oh, that is so fantastic! 336 00:19:00,994 --> 00:19:02,913 We'd almost given up hope, hadn't we? 337 00:19:02,914 --> 00:19:06,121 I will, of course, be in touch if there's any more news, OK? 338 00:19:06,122 --> 00:19:08,673 Thanks for coming to tell us, Sean. 339 00:19:08,674 --> 00:19:10,921 Well, it's important we're all on the same page, right? 340 00:19:10,922 --> 00:19:13,953 Well, thanks a million, Sean. Yeah, thanks. 341 00:19:13,954 --> 00:19:16,681 FRONT DOOR OPENS 342 00:19:16,682 --> 00:19:19,561 FRONT DOOR CLOSES 343 00:19:19,562 --> 00:19:21,313 Oh, Charlie, I've... 344 00:19:21,314 --> 00:19:23,233 I've got a knot in my tummy. 345 00:19:23,234 --> 00:19:26,753 But why? We've just had the best bloody news you could hope for. 346 00:19:26,754 --> 00:19:28,833 But what if it doesn't work again? 347 00:19:28,834 --> 00:19:31,081 What if another ruling goes against us or something? 348 00:19:31,082 --> 00:19:33,385 Because, if we don't get him this time, we never will. 349 00:19:33,386 --> 00:19:38,761 Always the gloomiest way of looking at it, that's you! 350 00:19:38,762 --> 00:19:41,641 Yeah, well, I've had that smashed into me, haven't I, over the years? 351 00:19:41,642 --> 00:19:45,953 There hasn't been much to be optimistic about, has there? 352 00:19:45,954 --> 00:19:48,937 Elaine, look at where you are right now. 353 00:19:48,938 --> 00:19:50,913 What are you doing? 354 00:19:50,914 --> 00:19:54,593 I mean, you've given up your job, you've even sold your car. 355 00:19:54,594 --> 00:19:57,001 Pete prefers to drive. 356 00:19:57,002 --> 00:19:59,233 SHE SIGHS 357 00:19:59,234 --> 00:20:03,145 It's not right, Elaine. It's got to stop. 358 00:20:03,146 --> 00:20:04,681 It's just you're not you any more. 359 00:20:04,682 --> 00:20:07,561 You don't even behave like you any more. 360 00:20:07,562 --> 00:20:10,825 To be honest, I feel like I've had the stuffing knocked out of me. 361 00:20:10,826 --> 00:20:13,321 I can't stand any sort of confrontation. 362 00:20:13,322 --> 00:20:16,673 There's just so much tension in the house. 363 00:20:16,674 --> 00:20:18,860 I feel like I've lost all my confidence. 364 00:20:29,474 --> 00:20:31,271 Thanks. 365 00:20:45,634 --> 00:20:46,921 Hi. 366 00:20:46,922 --> 00:20:54,217 Do you mind? 367 00:20:54,218 --> 00:20:56,905 I just think I'm being an idiot for coming out and helping them. 368 00:20:56,906 --> 00:20:58,825 You're not helping them out, though, are you? 369 00:20:58,826 --> 00:21:00,033 This isn't about them, is it? 370 00:21:00,034 --> 00:21:02,593 Well, they deserve to be left on the beach, with the tide out, 371 00:21:02,594 --> 00:21:05,161 looking like the fucking idiots they are. 372 00:21:05,162 --> 00:21:07,358 But Karen doesn't. 373 00:21:08,146 --> 00:21:09,600 But Karen doesn't. 374 00:21:17,066 --> 00:21:22,913 You're doing the right thing. 375 00:21:22,914 --> 00:21:24,349 Thank you. 376 00:21:51,626 --> 00:21:53,353 Here. Cheers, Aiden. 377 00:21:53,354 --> 00:21:55,873 Here. 378 00:21:55,874 --> 00:21:57,313 Thanks, love. 379 00:21:57,314 --> 00:21:58,921 We're going to go. 380 00:21:58,922 --> 00:22:00,841 Don't you think it's better to wait and face him, 381 00:22:00,842 --> 00:22:03,145 rather than doing it like this? 382 00:22:03,146 --> 00:22:04,873 I told him I was moving out today. 383 00:22:04,874 --> 00:22:06,985 Yeah, but he didn't believe you, did he? 384 00:22:06,986 --> 00:22:10,825 Look, I couldn't honestly handle him trying to talk me out of it. 385 00:22:10,826 --> 00:22:13,153 This way, it's much better. It's not Pete's fault. 386 00:22:13,154 --> 00:22:17,545 I should never have married him. So, why did you? 387 00:22:17,546 --> 00:22:19,273 I just thought, after what's happened, 388 00:22:19,274 --> 00:22:21,633 I needed someone to take control of my life for me. 389 00:22:21,634 --> 00:22:26,433 It's the worst thing I could have done, all right? 390 00:22:26,434 --> 00:22:28,112 Oh, nice one. SHE SIGHS 391 00:22:36,994 --> 00:22:39,241 SHE KNOCKS Mr Fulcher to see you. 392 00:22:39,242 --> 00:22:40,585 Thank you. 393 00:22:40,586 --> 00:22:42,753 Sean. Good to see you, Steve. 394 00:22:42,754 --> 00:22:44,833 And you. 395 00:22:44,834 --> 00:22:46,153 Mr Fulcher. Hi. 396 00:22:46,154 --> 00:22:48,841 Take a seat, please. 397 00:22:48,842 --> 00:22:50,761 I see you've got a suntan. 398 00:22:50,762 --> 00:22:54,601 I see you've got Detective Superintendent. 399 00:22:54,602 --> 00:22:56,713 Thanks for coming in today. We just wanted to give you 400 00:22:56,714 --> 00:22:57,953 some background on the trial. 401 00:22:57,954 --> 00:23:00,169 Right, so, there's definitely going to be one? 402 00:23:00,170 --> 00:23:03,553 Yes. And we are definitely going to need you to give evidence. 403 00:23:03,554 --> 00:23:06,121 Well, I'm all ears. 404 00:23:06,122 --> 00:23:08,673 Well, the pre-trial concluded this afternoon 405 00:23:08,674 --> 00:23:11,305 and the new judge, Mr Justice Griffith Williams, 406 00:23:11,306 --> 00:23:13,801 has ruled that the confession made to you by Halliwell 407 00:23:13,802 --> 00:23:16,105 will be admissible as evidence. 408 00:23:16,106 --> 00:23:19,233 He was quite scathing of Mrs Justice Cox, 409 00:23:19,234 --> 00:23:21,865 who ruled against you last time. Mm-hm. 410 00:23:21,866 --> 00:23:25,321 Halliwell tried to have it excluded again, based on her original ruling, 411 00:23:25,322 --> 00:23:28,585 but the new judge said that the confession was made voluntarily. 412 00:23:28,586 --> 00:23:30,753 In his view, there was no oppression. 413 00:23:30,754 --> 00:23:35,553 And to not allow it would offend good sense. 414 00:23:35,554 --> 00:23:38,185 You see, I thought I'd lost my career because other people, 415 00:23:38,186 --> 00:23:41,473 who should have known better, decided I'd done something terrible. 416 00:23:41,474 --> 00:23:43,233 But now it seems, apparently, I haven't. 417 00:23:43,234 --> 00:23:46,441 Look, I'd have understood if you'd told us to fuck off. 418 00:23:46,442 --> 00:23:52,033 Yeah, that was never going to happen. 419 00:23:52,034 --> 00:23:54,753 Hm... 420 00:23:54,754 --> 00:23:56,353 So, how does your new Chief Constable 421 00:23:56,354 --> 00:23:58,453 feel about me being his star witness, then? 422 00:24:08,486 --> 00:24:12,077 It's Elaine. 423 00:24:12,078 --> 00:24:14,573 Mrs Edwards, you've been waiting for four years. 424 00:24:14,574 --> 00:24:17,285 How are you feeling about the trial? Well, it's difficult. 425 00:24:17,286 --> 00:24:18,885 But we hope it's going to go our way. 426 00:24:18,886 --> 00:24:23,213 How do you feel about Halliwell representing himself, Mrs Edwards? 427 00:24:23,214 --> 00:24:26,119 REPORTERS SHOUT QUESTIONS 428 00:25:44,046 --> 00:25:47,525 When was the last time you saw your daughter, Mrs Edwards? 429 00:25:47,526 --> 00:25:51,205 December 2002. 430 00:25:51,206 --> 00:25:53,645 She would have been 21 the following April. 431 00:25:53,646 --> 00:25:55,949 And I always thought she'd turn up for her 21st birthday, 432 00:25:55,950 --> 00:25:58,445 but she never did. 433 00:25:58,446 --> 00:26:04,013 I got a card from her every Mother's Day, without fail. 434 00:26:04,014 --> 00:26:08,045 But from 2003 onwards, I never got one. 435 00:26:08,046 --> 00:26:11,693 Becky was very petite. 436 00:26:11,694 --> 00:26:15,365 She was only 4'11" tall and she could wear children's clothing. 437 00:26:15,366 --> 00:26:20,005 You know, like, for 12 to 14-year-olds. 438 00:26:20,006 --> 00:26:24,485 She was just a child, really. 439 00:26:24,486 --> 00:26:28,973 Miss X, you have been granted anonymity today. 440 00:26:28,974 --> 00:26:32,237 I understand you have a history of drug abuse and prostitution, 441 00:26:32,238 --> 00:26:34,733 which is how you met Rebecca Godden. 442 00:26:34,734 --> 00:26:36,653 That's correct, yes. 443 00:26:36,654 --> 00:26:38,573 She was a friend of mine. 444 00:26:38,574 --> 00:26:40,965 But you have turned your life around since then 445 00:26:40,966 --> 00:26:45,101 and are now married with two children. 446 00:26:45,102 --> 00:26:46,085 Yes. 447 00:26:46,086 --> 00:26:48,805 And my husband knows nothing about my past life. 448 00:26:48,806 --> 00:26:50,669 And yet you still came along today, 449 00:26:50,670 --> 00:26:54,405 even though your past could have been revealed to all and sundry. 450 00:26:54,406 --> 00:26:57,773 I thought it was important. 451 00:26:57,774 --> 00:27:00,653 I'm very grateful to you. 452 00:27:00,654 --> 00:27:05,453 Please, stay where you are. 453 00:27:05,454 --> 00:27:08,005 Mr Halliwell... 454 00:27:08,006 --> 00:27:12,557 According to you... 455 00:27:12,558 --> 00:27:15,053 ..I was besotted with Rebecca Godden. 456 00:27:15,054 --> 00:27:16,397 Correct. 457 00:27:16,398 --> 00:27:18,565 Even though I've never met her before. 458 00:27:18,566 --> 00:27:21,445 SHE SCOFFS 459 00:27:21,446 --> 00:27:25,229 Sometimes you even give her money to stop her going with other men. 460 00:27:25,230 --> 00:27:28,109 I remember, one night, you picked me up for sex, 461 00:27:28,110 --> 00:27:30,245 you knew she was my mate and you said, 462 00:27:30,246 --> 00:27:33,765 "Don't tell Becks about this." 463 00:27:33,766 --> 00:27:36,365 Right, so I'm supposed to have had sex with you, too, yeah? 464 00:27:36,366 --> 00:27:37,765 Yes. 465 00:27:37,766 --> 00:27:41,933 Twice. 466 00:27:41,934 --> 00:27:43,277 HE SCOFFS 467 00:27:43,278 --> 00:27:45,005 You see, I think there's a chance... 468 00:27:45,006 --> 00:27:46,733 ..that you could be mistaken. 469 00:27:46,734 --> 00:27:48,965 So, take a long, hard look at me 470 00:27:48,966 --> 00:27:51,365 and confirm that the person you're talking about is me. 471 00:27:51,366 --> 00:27:53,069 Because this is serious. 472 00:27:53,070 --> 00:27:54,605 Is this a joke? 473 00:27:54,606 --> 00:28:00,365 I am one hundred million percent sure it's you. 474 00:28:00,366 --> 00:28:04,973 If we've had sex together twice... 475 00:28:04,974 --> 00:28:08,237 ..what colour are my eyes? 476 00:28:08,238 --> 00:28:09,965 I don't know. 477 00:28:09,966 --> 00:28:11,844 What colour were Becky's? 478 00:28:21,486 --> 00:28:23,405 We compared soil found on the spade 479 00:28:23,406 --> 00:28:26,093 in the garage at Christopher Halliwell's home address 480 00:28:26,094 --> 00:28:28,397 with a sample of soil from the field 481 00:28:28,398 --> 00:28:30,893 where Rebecca Godden's body was found. 482 00:28:30,894 --> 00:28:32,485 Becky was outside the club 483 00:28:32,486 --> 00:28:35,309 having some sort of argument with this taxi driver. 484 00:28:35,310 --> 00:28:38,573 He was shouting at her. It went on for quite a while. 485 00:28:38,574 --> 00:28:41,125 I'm pretty sure I heard him call her "a fucking slag", 486 00:28:41,126 --> 00:28:43,373 or words like that. 487 00:28:43,374 --> 00:28:46,885 This row with the taxi driver, when was that? 488 00:28:46,886 --> 00:28:49,925 Er, just after New Year 2003. 489 00:28:49,926 --> 00:28:52,485 I'm pretty sure it was the 3rd, early in the morning. 490 00:28:52,486 --> 00:28:55,853 In the end, the driver somehow persuaded her to get in the back 491 00:28:55,854 --> 00:28:58,349 and they drove off. 492 00:28:58,350 --> 00:29:00,325 Did you get a look at the driver? 493 00:29:00,326 --> 00:29:02,085 Not clearly, no. 494 00:29:02,086 --> 00:29:05,261 And you never saw Rebecca again after that? 495 00:29:05,262 --> 00:29:06,413 No. 496 00:29:06,414 --> 00:29:07,565 Never. 497 00:29:07,566 --> 00:29:10,085 Nor indeed have we been able to find anybody else who has, 498 00:29:10,086 --> 00:29:13,765 after that night. 499 00:29:13,766 --> 00:29:15,053 Mr Halliwell... 500 00:29:15,054 --> 00:29:17,933 Do you have any questions? 501 00:29:17,934 --> 00:29:20,429 Yeah, erm... 502 00:29:20,430 --> 00:29:23,365 The taxi she drove off in, 503 00:29:23,366 --> 00:29:27,917 did it have a white illuminated sign on it saying, well, "Taxi"? 504 00:29:27,918 --> 00:29:31,205 Yeah, it did. 505 00:29:31,206 --> 00:29:32,965 Thank you. 506 00:29:32,966 --> 00:29:36,173 Because, at that time, my car did not have a light on the roof. 507 00:29:36,174 --> 00:29:45,773 So, thank you. 508 00:29:45,774 --> 00:29:47,525 Thank you. 509 00:29:47,526 --> 00:29:49,613 The court has now broken until tomorrow. 510 00:29:49,614 --> 00:29:55,373 If you could be back here for 9:00am? Fine. 511 00:29:55,374 --> 00:29:58,061 I'd heard most of that evidence before. Hadn't you? 512 00:29:58,062 --> 00:29:59,597 Mm. 513 00:29:59,598 --> 00:30:02,725 We had all that back when Steve was around, as far as I can remember. 514 00:30:02,726 --> 00:30:04,973 So, what have they been doing for the last five years? 515 00:30:04,974 --> 00:30:08,005 All this new evidence! All they've got is Steve. 516 00:30:08,006 --> 00:30:10,405 And he must be so nervous, after all this time, 517 00:30:10,406 --> 00:30:13,997 wondering what Halliwell is going to say. 518 00:30:13,998 --> 00:30:15,940 ELECTRIC TOOTHBRUSH WHIRS 519 00:30:26,862 --> 00:30:28,205 Tell us again, Mr Fulcher, 520 00:30:28,206 --> 00:30:31,085 what Christopher Halliwell told you that day about the second victim. 521 00:30:31,086 --> 00:30:33,005 He said he had taken a prostitute 522 00:30:33,006 --> 00:30:35,693 from the Manchester Road area of Swindon, 523 00:30:35,694 --> 00:30:38,085 had sex with her in the back of his taxi... 524 00:30:38,086 --> 00:30:40,325 ..and then strangled her. 525 00:30:40,326 --> 00:30:43,205 I said, "Was it similar to Sian?" He said, "Pretty much." 526 00:30:43,206 --> 00:30:45,125 I asked if there were any other victims, 527 00:30:45,126 --> 00:30:46,637 I said, "Is it just these two?" 528 00:30:46,638 --> 00:30:48,941 And he replied, "Isn't that enough?" 529 00:30:48,942 --> 00:30:51,525 OK, let's pause there. 530 00:30:51,526 --> 00:30:54,579 I'm sure Mr Halliwell has some questions for you. 531 00:31:05,454 --> 00:31:08,165 I couldn't care less... 532 00:31:08,166 --> 00:31:12,365 ..about not being cautioned by you. 533 00:31:12,366 --> 00:31:15,845 Sorry? It didn't bother me in the slightest that... 534 00:31:15,846 --> 00:31:17,933 ..my rights were breached. 535 00:31:17,934 --> 00:31:20,325 When I was arrested on 24th March, 536 00:31:20,326 --> 00:31:23,309 that was the first day of a life sentence. 537 00:31:23,310 --> 00:31:25,445 HE CLEARS HIS THROAT I knew that. 538 00:31:25,446 --> 00:31:29,125 So, after I took you to Sian's body, everything after that... 539 00:31:29,126 --> 00:31:32,717 ..well, that was about pure revenge. 540 00:31:32,718 --> 00:31:34,445 I don't quite follow you. 541 00:31:34,446 --> 00:31:37,517 Well, I didn't know about PACE and codes and all that, 542 00:31:37,518 --> 00:31:40,397 but I knew enough to know that, if I asked to speak to a solicitor, 543 00:31:40,398 --> 00:31:43,853 then everything else should stop until that's been given to me. 544 00:31:43,854 --> 00:31:45,125 I knew that much. 545 00:31:45,126 --> 00:31:47,693 I asked you six or seven times, 546 00:31:47,694 --> 00:31:51,149 it's all been recorded, and you kept refusing me. 547 00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:53,285 I knew that was wrong. 548 00:31:53,286 --> 00:31:55,949 I didn't care because I knew I could turn it to my advantage. 549 00:31:55,950 --> 00:31:58,725 So, all that whole story... 550 00:31:58,726 --> 00:32:01,133 ..about burying a girl in a field... 551 00:32:01,134 --> 00:32:02,669 HE SCOFFS 552 00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:04,205 ..it was just a pack of lies. 553 00:32:04,206 --> 00:32:06,893 Mr Halliwell, if you are alleging 554 00:32:06,894 --> 00:32:09,605 that revenge played a part in what happened that day, 555 00:32:09,606 --> 00:32:11,693 you must explain yourself. 556 00:32:11,694 --> 00:32:13,613 Yeah, in a minute, Your Honour. 557 00:32:13,614 --> 00:32:18,245 I had no idea if there was a body buried in that field in Eastleach. 558 00:32:18,246 --> 00:32:22,085 How could I if I'd never met Rebecca Godden in my life? 559 00:32:22,086 --> 00:32:24,173 What happened was, at the end of 2001, 560 00:32:24,174 --> 00:32:26,093 I started driving these fellas around. 561 00:32:26,094 --> 00:32:28,397 Well... 562 00:32:28,398 --> 00:32:30,405 ..drug dealers, they were. 563 00:32:30,406 --> 00:32:33,389 But I never asked them any questions and they seemed to trust me. 564 00:32:33,390 --> 00:32:37,125 Now, one night, at the end of March time 2003, 565 00:32:37,126 --> 00:32:40,325 they directed me out to this field in Eastleach. 566 00:32:40,326 --> 00:32:42,029 And they carried this big holdall 567 00:32:42,030 --> 00:32:44,005 out of the boot of my taxi into the field. 568 00:32:44,006 --> 00:32:46,253 Now, I drove off. I came back for them later. 569 00:32:46,254 --> 00:32:48,645 I never asked them what they were doing. 570 00:32:48,646 --> 00:32:51,437 A few months later, I was driving one of them around 571 00:32:51,438 --> 00:32:52,973 and he was drunk, right? 572 00:32:52,974 --> 00:32:55,525 And he tells me that they had buried... 573 00:32:55,526 --> 00:32:59,845 ..a prostitute in that field that night. 574 00:32:59,846 --> 00:33:02,381 Now, I thought he was messing 575 00:33:02,382 --> 00:33:04,301 because he said it like it was nothing. 576 00:33:04,302 --> 00:33:07,565 So, when I took you to that field in Eastleach, 577 00:33:07,566 --> 00:33:11,525 I had no idea if there was a body buried there. 578 00:33:11,526 --> 00:33:13,605 And I can prove it. 579 00:33:13,606 --> 00:33:16,805 How deep down did I say the body was buried? 580 00:33:16,806 --> 00:33:19,469 You said five feet. That's right. 581 00:33:19,470 --> 00:33:21,773 And how deep was it actually buried? 582 00:33:21,774 --> 00:33:23,885 Er, about eight inches, 583 00:33:23,886 --> 00:33:26,085 cos the bedrock was so close to the surface. 584 00:33:26,086 --> 00:33:27,045 Yeah. 585 00:33:27,046 --> 00:33:30,797 So, why would I say five feet if it was only eight inches? 586 00:33:30,798 --> 00:33:33,765 Well, you also couldn't be sure when you had murdered Becky. 587 00:33:33,766 --> 00:33:35,685 Cos I never did, cos I'd never met her. 588 00:33:35,686 --> 00:33:38,885 You said it was in 2003, 2004 or 2005. 589 00:33:38,886 --> 00:33:41,933 So what I surmised... 590 00:33:41,934 --> 00:33:44,813 ..and from you getting wrong the depth that she was buried, 591 00:33:44,814 --> 00:33:47,501 was that you had other victims that you had buried, 592 00:33:47,502 --> 00:33:49,997 victims that we don't yet know about, 593 00:33:49,998 --> 00:33:52,685 and that you became confused about which was which. 594 00:33:52,686 --> 00:33:55,565 That's an absolute pack of lies. And you know that. 595 00:33:55,566 --> 00:33:59,405 No, I know that you told me you had murdered a prostitute 596 00:33:59,406 --> 00:34:01,445 and buried her in that field. 597 00:34:01,446 --> 00:34:02,885 I believed... 598 00:34:02,886 --> 00:34:05,605 ..in that moment, that you were contrite 599 00:34:05,606 --> 00:34:08,645 and that you wanted to unburden yourself. That's ridiculous. 600 00:34:08,646 --> 00:34:11,693 You said you could take me to the exact spot in that field 601 00:34:11,694 --> 00:34:13,037 where she was buried. 602 00:34:13,038 --> 00:34:14,957 In fact, you were a few feet out, 603 00:34:14,958 --> 00:34:17,453 but we later discovered the remains of Rebecca Godden 604 00:34:17,454 --> 00:34:20,333 in that field that you had directed us to. 605 00:34:20,334 --> 00:34:24,365 Well, I only said that because I wanted to get you in the shit. 606 00:34:24,366 --> 00:34:27,525 We need to know why, Mr Halliwell. 607 00:34:27,526 --> 00:34:29,445 Because he threatened my daughters. 608 00:34:29,446 --> 00:34:31,661 I did what? You threatened my daughters. 609 00:34:31,662 --> 00:34:33,285 And nobody threatens my kids! 610 00:34:33,286 --> 00:34:35,885 Absolute rubbish. That's why I took you to that field. 611 00:34:35,886 --> 00:34:38,085 Cos I knew for certain, if anything was found there, 612 00:34:38,086 --> 00:34:39,533 then any third-rate solicitor 613 00:34:39,534 --> 00:34:42,413 would make mincemeat of the fact I hadn't been cautioned 614 00:34:42,414 --> 00:34:45,125 and you'd be dropped right in it. 615 00:34:45,126 --> 00:34:49,605 But you haven't told us what this threat was. 616 00:34:49,606 --> 00:34:51,053 I'm not going to say. 617 00:34:51,054 --> 00:34:53,165 You're not going to say? 618 00:34:53,166 --> 00:34:55,085 No. 619 00:34:55,086 --> 00:34:59,693 Don't you think it's rather important to tell us what it was? 620 00:34:59,694 --> 00:35:01,997 Well, there's no point. 621 00:35:01,998 --> 00:35:05,645 I can't prove it. It's my word against his. 622 00:35:05,646 --> 00:35:06,885 I see. 623 00:35:06,886 --> 00:35:12,645 So, do you have any more questions for Mr Fulcher? 624 00:35:12,646 --> 00:35:15,685 Er... 625 00:35:15,686 --> 00:35:18,125 No. 626 00:35:18,126 --> 00:35:19,525 Very well. 627 00:35:19,526 --> 00:35:21,285 This might be a good time to take a break. 628 00:35:21,286 --> 00:35:23,501 Er, just one more thing. Erm... 629 00:35:23,502 --> 00:35:27,386 It was a pleasure ruining your career, you corrupt bastard. 630 00:35:48,754 --> 00:35:53,145 "I do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm 631 00:35:53,146 --> 00:35:55,313 "that the evidence I give shall be the truth, 632 00:35:55,314 --> 00:35:58,952 "the whole truth and nothing but the truth." 633 00:36:12,754 --> 00:36:17,721 You really loathe Mr Fulcher, don't you? 634 00:36:17,722 --> 00:36:20,273 Absolutely. 635 00:36:20,274 --> 00:36:23,673 You blame him for your confessions, don't you? 636 00:36:23,674 --> 00:36:26,833 I'm responsible for my own actions. I've faced up to what I did to Sian. 637 00:36:26,834 --> 00:36:28,281 No, but you see, you haven't. 638 00:36:28,282 --> 00:36:31,473 You've never given a proper account of what happened when Sian died, 639 00:36:31,474 --> 00:36:33,273 other than some nonsensical claim 640 00:36:33,274 --> 00:36:35,633 that she tried to grab your steering wheel 641 00:36:35,634 --> 00:36:37,233 and then you went to punch her 642 00:36:37,234 --> 00:36:41,337 without realising you had a knife in your hand. 643 00:36:41,338 --> 00:36:45,369 You abducted her for sexual purposes, just as you did Rebecca. 644 00:36:45,370 --> 00:36:47,289 Er, that's ludicrous. 645 00:36:47,290 --> 00:36:49,401 It was an accident. Was it? 646 00:36:49,402 --> 00:36:52,473 Is that why her leggings and knickers were pulled down 647 00:36:52,474 --> 00:36:54,673 and her bra was missing? 648 00:36:54,674 --> 00:36:58,513 Listen, I came here to tell the truth. 649 00:36:58,514 --> 00:37:01,497 It doesn't matter to me if the jury believes me or not. 650 00:37:01,498 --> 00:37:03,801 Yes, you keep saying that. But that's not true, either. 651 00:37:03,802 --> 00:37:07,065 You received 25 years for the murder of Sian O'Callaghan. 652 00:37:07,066 --> 00:37:09,753 But there is at least a chance you could be released, 653 00:37:09,754 --> 00:37:11,953 albeit you'd be in your 70s. 654 00:37:11,954 --> 00:37:13,785 If you're found guilty of Rebecca's murder, 655 00:37:13,786 --> 00:37:15,153 then you will never be released. 656 00:37:15,154 --> 00:37:18,009 So, actually, there's rather a lot riding on this. 657 00:37:18,010 --> 00:37:20,313 Which is why you've constructed this fantasy account 658 00:37:20,314 --> 00:37:23,577 of how you led the police to her body. 659 00:37:23,578 --> 00:37:25,713 It's what happened. 660 00:37:25,714 --> 00:37:29,393 Yes. Except, for it to be true, you have to try and convince the jury 661 00:37:29,394 --> 00:37:33,233 you have never met Rebecca Godden. 662 00:37:33,234 --> 00:37:35,673 I... I haven't. Which is why you're so desperate 663 00:37:35,674 --> 00:37:38,033 to try and rebut the evidence of Miss X, 664 00:37:38,034 --> 00:37:41,433 whom you inconveniently had sex with on two occasions. 665 00:37:41,434 --> 00:37:45,273 I've never set eyes on her before and, to be honest... 666 00:37:45,274 --> 00:37:47,633 ..she's not my type. Not your type? 667 00:37:47,634 --> 00:37:49,233 What is your type, then? 668 00:37:49,234 --> 00:37:53,553 Well, certainly not that thin. 669 00:37:53,554 --> 00:37:56,601 Is your type size eight? 670 00:37:56,602 --> 00:37:59,865 Size ten? 671 00:37:59,866 --> 00:38:02,833 Pretty, young women who are out and about on the streets of Swindon 672 00:38:02,834 --> 00:38:06,009 in the early hours of the morning, is that your type? 673 00:38:06,010 --> 00:38:09,657 About five feet, five feet two inches tall, 674 00:38:09,658 --> 00:38:11,961 on their own... 675 00:38:11,962 --> 00:38:14,841 ..vulnerable. 676 00:38:14,842 --> 00:38:17,299 Is that your type? 677 00:38:50,194 --> 00:38:51,899 PHONE VIBRATES 678 00:39:15,794 --> 00:39:17,713 WOMAN: Foreman of the jury, 679 00:39:17,714 --> 00:39:21,713 have you reached a verdict upon which you are all agreed? 680 00:39:21,714 --> 00:39:23,385 We have. 681 00:39:23,386 --> 00:39:26,265 Do you find the defendant, Christopher Halliwell, 682 00:39:26,266 --> 00:39:30,193 guilty or not guilty of murder? 683 00:39:30,194 --> 00:39:35,793 Guilty. SHE GASPS 684 00:39:35,794 --> 00:39:43,929 DIALOGUE IS MUTED 685 00:39:43,930 --> 00:39:46,833 Christopher John Halliwell... 686 00:39:46,834 --> 00:39:52,433 ..you have been convicted by a jury for the murder of Rebecca Godden. 687 00:39:52,434 --> 00:39:54,873 I observe that you lied to this jury 688 00:39:54,874 --> 00:39:58,521 about the circumstances of the murder of Rebecca Godden, 689 00:39:58,522 --> 00:40:01,209 just as you lied to the jury 690 00:40:01,210 --> 00:40:05,241 about the circumstances of the murder of Sian O'Callaghan. 691 00:40:05,242 --> 00:40:09,553 I have concluded that the level of your offending is exceptionally high 692 00:40:09,554 --> 00:40:12,537 and direct there will be a whole life order. 693 00:40:12,538 --> 00:40:14,589 Take him down. 694 00:40:26,834 --> 00:40:29,627 Where's Yvonne gone? Oh, she's gone to find Steve. 695 00:40:38,674 --> 00:40:48,441 DOOR OPENS 696 00:40:48,442 --> 00:40:53,241 Whole life? Yeah. 697 00:40:53,242 --> 00:40:55,793 HE EXHALES SLOWLY AND HEAVILY 698 00:40:55,794 --> 00:41:01,497 The judge said his account made no sense at all. He lied and lied. 699 00:41:01,498 --> 00:41:05,233 He was right, though. 700 00:41:05,234 --> 00:41:08,433 He did ruin me. 701 00:41:08,434 --> 00:41:10,713 I mean, it occurred to me, when I was facing him in court, 702 00:41:10,714 --> 00:41:12,633 that we cancelled each other out. 703 00:41:12,634 --> 00:41:14,361 That day, in order to bring him down, 704 00:41:14,362 --> 00:41:16,281 it was like I had to also lose everything. 705 00:41:16,282 --> 00:41:18,392 As if it was some sort of pact between us. 706 00:41:32,602 --> 00:41:36,273 Karen, we wondered if you could say something to the press. 707 00:41:36,274 --> 00:41:39,153 I've drafted some thoughts for you. 708 00:41:39,154 --> 00:41:41,553 I wondered if you and John could make a joint statement, 709 00:41:41,554 --> 00:41:42,777 mother and father together. 710 00:41:42,778 --> 00:41:45,465 Right. Because I'm not giving up, not till the truth comes out. 711 00:41:45,466 --> 00:41:48,433 What? That wasn't a trial, that was a travesty. 712 00:41:48,434 --> 00:41:50,513 What about the drug dealers Chris was talking about? 713 00:41:50,514 --> 00:41:52,273 Has anybody been looking for them? 714 00:41:52,274 --> 00:41:55,833 Was Fulcher involved with them? We need answers. 715 00:41:55,834 --> 00:41:57,753 I'm not doing a joint statement with John. 716 00:41:57,754 --> 00:41:59,481 You're on your own with him. 717 00:41:59,482 --> 00:42:05,433 And I don't need your notes. I know what I'm going to say. 718 00:42:05,434 --> 00:42:09,465 Steven... 719 00:42:09,466 --> 00:42:18,873 CAMERAS CLICK Can you take my bag? 720 00:42:18,874 --> 00:42:21,945 I want to place on record my thanks for the team 721 00:42:21,946 --> 00:42:24,913 led by Detective Superintendent Sean Memory, 722 00:42:24,914 --> 00:42:28,857 who have brought this case to a positive conclusion today. 723 00:42:28,858 --> 00:42:32,505 We have waited over five years for this moment. 724 00:42:32,506 --> 00:42:35,961 This has been an extremely painful journey, 725 00:42:35,962 --> 00:42:40,185 but at last we have finally received justice 726 00:42:40,186 --> 00:42:43,257 for our beautiful little girl Becky. 727 00:42:43,258 --> 00:42:45,753 Sean and his team were left with virtually nothing to go on 728 00:42:45,754 --> 00:42:48,441 after the evidence, initially gathered by Steve Fulcher, 729 00:42:48,442 --> 00:42:51,513 had to be thrown out virtually in its entirety. 730 00:42:51,514 --> 00:42:56,753 I want to thank, from the bottom of my heart, Steve Fulcher. 731 00:42:56,754 --> 00:43:02,457 I will always be indebted to him for bringing my little girl home. 732 00:43:02,458 --> 00:43:04,953 They worked tirelessly with the Crown Prosecution Service 733 00:43:04,954 --> 00:43:07,313 to uncover new evidence and bring this case to justice. 734 00:43:07,314 --> 00:43:09,393 They are to be congratulated. 735 00:43:09,394 --> 00:43:13,401 But Steve should never have suffered the terrible consequences, 736 00:43:13,402 --> 00:43:19,161 the loss of his reputation, the loss of his career... 737 00:43:19,162 --> 00:43:23,193 ..just for doing the right thing. 738 00:43:23,194 --> 00:43:25,393 Thank you. 739 00:43:25,394 --> 00:43:30,513 REPORTERS SHOUT QUESTIONS 740 00:43:30,514 --> 00:43:37,977 Go on. Go and talk to her. 741 00:43:37,978 --> 00:43:41,241 I can't. 742 00:43:41,242 --> 00:43:43,929 She's all right, you know? 743 00:43:43,930 --> 00:43:51,993 Like you, really. 744 00:43:51,994 --> 00:43:54,720 I just can't. It's too close. 745 00:44:05,626 --> 00:44:08,889 WOMAN: Steve Fulcher, this has been a landmark case in many ways. 746 00:44:08,890 --> 00:44:12,153 And I know it's been a difficult journey for you, personally. 747 00:44:12,154 --> 00:44:15,313 But how do you respond to those who say we cannot have the police 748 00:44:15,314 --> 00:44:17,721 riding roughshod over the rights of a suspect 749 00:44:17,722 --> 00:44:20,113 as if it were the 1970s again? I agree. 750 00:44:20,114 --> 00:44:23,793 I agree. But what if next time it's your daughter who's gone missing? 751 00:44:23,794 --> 00:44:27,793 And if another police officer finds himself in the position I was in, 752 00:44:27,794 --> 00:44:29,817 what does he do? 753 00:44:29,818 --> 00:44:31,353 Now, after what's happened to me, 754 00:44:31,354 --> 00:44:33,713 he would be perfectly entitled to give up on her, 755 00:44:33,714 --> 00:44:35,961 to take his suspect back to the police station 756 00:44:35,962 --> 00:44:38,457 and let a lawyer advise him to go, "No comment." 757 00:44:38,458 --> 00:44:44,913 Now, if she was still alive, your daughter would then inevitably die. 758 00:44:44,914 --> 00:44:49,233 And the police's official position on this seems to be, 759 00:44:49,234 --> 00:44:50,993 "So be it. 760 00:44:50,994 --> 00:44:54,993 "We're very sorry, but she'll just have to die, then." 761 00:44:54,994 --> 00:44:57,557 Is that what we want? 762 00:45:51,547 --> 00:45:56,547 Subtitles by explosiveskull www.OpenSubtitles.org