1 00:00:01,131 --> 00:00:05,611 If you were to try to package intensity, 2 00:00:05,657 --> 00:00:07,957 and electricity, and just 3 00:00:08,008 --> 00:00:11,488 pure explosiveness into one package, 4 00:00:11,533 --> 00:00:14,323 that would have been the Macho Man, Randy Savage. 5 00:00:14,362 --> 00:00:17,672 Oh my God. Macho Man. 6 00:00:17,713 --> 00:00:20,933 It's a stick of dynamite that is lit and 7 00:00:20,977 --> 00:00:23,017 the fuse has gotten very short. 8 00:00:23,066 --> 00:00:26,026 100 percenter, man. He's gonna come at you with 100%. 9 00:00:26,069 --> 00:00:28,809 The Macho Man Randy Savage. He was loud. 10 00:00:28,854 --> 00:00:30,474 The cream of the crop! 11 00:00:30,508 --> 00:00:32,678 He was colorful. He was intense. 12 00:00:32,728 --> 00:00:33,898 Oh, yeah! 13 00:00:33,946 --> 00:00:37,206 Miss Elizabeth... was... not. 14 00:00:37,254 --> 00:00:40,694 Elizabeth was an icon and a role model for so many women. 15 00:00:40,736 --> 00:00:43,216 Her character was something that brought a lot of feeling and 16 00:00:43,260 --> 00:00:44,650 emotion to the matches. 17 00:00:44,696 --> 00:00:47,786 Elizabeth, I love you! 18 00:00:47,830 --> 00:00:49,920 Randy "Macho Man" Savage and Miss Elizabeth were 19 00:00:49,962 --> 00:00:53,052 wrestling royalty, and their roller coaster romance 20 00:00:53,096 --> 00:00:56,266 captivated audiences around the world. 21 00:00:56,317 --> 00:01:00,057 It's Bonnie and Clyde, it's Romeo and Juliet. 22 00:01:00,103 --> 00:01:03,633 They were the first, you know, male-female package 23 00:01:03,672 --> 00:01:08,852 that was created in that new WWF model. 24 00:01:08,894 --> 00:01:11,114 They were the first and they were the best. 25 00:01:11,158 --> 00:01:14,678 Dysfunctional, as it may have been in some respects, 26 00:01:14,726 --> 00:01:20,646 but I saw it... It's a love story. 27 00:01:20,689 --> 00:01:23,129 On this episode, art imitates life 28 00:01:23,170 --> 00:01:25,870 as we examine a fictional love story surrounding 29 00:01:25,911 --> 00:01:29,001 a real-life marriage that explodes beyond the ring 30 00:01:29,045 --> 00:01:31,655 with tragic consequences. 31 00:01:40,230 --> 00:01:42,060 - I don't want to do that. Okay. 32 00:01:42,102 --> 00:01:44,932 Look at how ripped I was. Look at that belly. 33 00:01:44,974 --> 00:01:49,244 Good God. I was in fighting shape right there. 34 00:01:49,283 --> 00:01:52,593 My name is Bruce Prichard and I have actually worked 35 00:01:52,634 --> 00:01:55,904 in the wrestling business for about 45 years. 36 00:01:55,941 --> 00:01:59,471 First time I met Randy Savage was in 1987, 37 00:01:59,510 --> 00:02:01,160 in Houston, Texas. 38 00:02:01,208 --> 00:02:03,338 Randy got into the wrestling business, 39 00:02:03,384 --> 00:02:05,344 he was a second-generation wrestler. 40 00:02:05,386 --> 00:02:08,076 His father, Angelo Poffo, was one of the greats. 41 00:02:08,128 --> 00:02:11,608 And, Angelo had a wrestling territory 42 00:02:11,653 --> 00:02:14,743 and it was considered, back in the day, 43 00:02:14,786 --> 00:02:17,216 an "outlaw" wrestling territory. 44 00:02:17,267 --> 00:02:19,837 Can't do nothing against the Macho Man, yeah. 45 00:02:19,878 --> 00:02:21,748 ♪1 professional wrestler! 46 00:02:21,793 --> 00:02:24,673 Complete mental insanity, yeah! 47 00:02:24,709 --> 00:02:26,539 You're a champion, Randy. 48 00:02:26,581 --> 00:02:29,541 You'll go down in history as the greatest. 49 00:02:29,584 --> 00:02:30,894 The greatest-- 50 00:02:30,933 --> 00:02:33,153 I broke this chair by sitting down! 51 00:02:33,196 --> 00:02:37,026 Then, all of a sudden, it's time for Randy Savage to appear. 52 00:02:37,069 --> 00:02:39,329 Jimmy, baby, the best thing that you can do is probably just 53 00:02:39,376 --> 00:02:41,856 stand back and let the Macho Man talk 'cause there's 54 00:02:41,900 --> 00:02:44,510 nothing that you could say that I couldn't say better myself. 55 00:02:44,555 --> 00:02:47,335 There was a period in the wrestling business where, 56 00:02:47,384 --> 00:02:51,394 if you were crazy onscreen, you were crazy off-screen. 57 00:02:51,432 --> 00:02:53,482 You had to live your gimmick. 58 00:02:53,521 --> 00:02:56,921 And Randy played crazy really well. 59 00:02:56,959 --> 00:02:59,179 He lived it 24/7. 60 00:03:01,659 --> 00:03:04,179 Just, personally, do you think it'd be okay if 61 00:03:04,227 --> 00:03:06,137 I came out that Randy was a bed-wetter? 62 00:03:06,186 --> 00:03:10,146 Ah... 63 00:03:10,190 --> 00:03:12,890 What was it like growing up with Randy as a brother? 64 00:03:12,931 --> 00:03:16,811 He's the same as any other alpha male, 65 00:03:16,848 --> 00:03:19,718 except his dial is not only past 10, 66 00:03:19,764 --> 00:03:22,204 but it's broken and it's gone off the hinges. 67 00:03:22,245 --> 00:03:26,375 I was upstaged every day, but I knew it was getting over, 68 00:03:26,423 --> 00:03:28,773 so I was proud to be holding the rope. 69 00:03:28,817 --> 00:03:30,687 He had a dream that he could be a villain, 70 00:03:30,732 --> 00:03:32,912 a bad guy, a ruffian. 71 00:03:32,951 --> 00:03:36,651 He wanted to be an antagonist 'cause he felt he had more 72 00:03:36,694 --> 00:03:40,484 creativity than just being the pawn of the villain. 73 00:03:40,524 --> 00:03:43,184 Randy would take a lot of risks. 74 00:03:43,223 --> 00:03:44,493 He would say, 75 00:03:44,528 --> 00:03:48,008 "You gotta stare into a candle for two hours." 76 00:03:48,053 --> 00:03:50,533 Staring at the candle for about two hours 77 00:03:50,578 --> 00:03:52,878 and get my head together. 78 00:03:52,928 --> 00:03:55,538 Some people loved him, some people hated him. 79 00:03:55,583 --> 00:03:58,113 But everybody respected him because when you see that 80 00:03:58,150 --> 00:04:01,420 kind of athleticism, you have to buy into it. 81 00:04:04,940 --> 00:04:06,990 So, this is my autograph table. 82 00:04:07,029 --> 00:04:08,599 Okay, this was another night where, like, 83 00:04:08,639 --> 00:04:10,949 I think everybody was drinking too much red wine. 84 00:04:10,989 --> 00:04:13,859 And, right here is that little saying, 85 00:04:13,905 --> 00:04:17,125 never know what he meant by it, but... 86 00:04:17,169 --> 00:04:18,689 that's what Macho carved into the table and 87 00:04:18,736 --> 00:04:22,606 he used to say, "Whatever it takes!" 88 00:04:22,653 --> 00:04:23,963 I'm Linda Bollea. 89 00:04:24,002 --> 00:04:26,572 Married to my ex-husband, professional wrestler, 90 00:04:26,614 --> 00:04:29,234 Hulk Hogan, for 25 years. 91 00:04:29,269 --> 00:04:30,969 Oh, that was back when we loved each other. 92 00:04:31,009 --> 00:04:33,099 In the olden days. 93 00:04:33,142 --> 00:04:34,932 So, once I met Miss Elizabeth, 94 00:04:34,970 --> 00:04:36,930 we ended up being friends because I was really the 95 00:04:36,972 --> 00:04:39,502 only other female on the road. 96 00:04:39,540 --> 00:04:42,150 Elizabeth was from Frankfort, Kentucky. 97 00:04:42,194 --> 00:04:43,334 Good upbringing. 98 00:04:43,370 --> 00:04:45,330 She addressed her mom as, "Mother". 99 00:04:45,372 --> 00:04:49,032 And she said, "We were broke. My dad left early. 100 00:04:49,071 --> 00:04:50,861 It was just me, and my mom, and my brother, 101 00:04:50,899 --> 00:04:53,159 and money was always really tight." 102 00:04:53,205 --> 00:04:55,765 There was a gym called Sin The Sport Center, 103 00:04:55,817 --> 00:04:57,207 and Randy worked out there. 104 00:04:57,253 --> 00:05:00,213 And then, one fine day, a new girl came, 105 00:05:00,256 --> 00:05:03,036 and that was Elizabeth Hulette. 106 00:05:03,085 --> 00:05:05,345 And she said Randy was in the gym about 6 in the morning 107 00:05:05,392 --> 00:05:07,392 and she's working the front desk, 108 00:05:07,437 --> 00:05:08,867 and he comes in and she goes, 109 00:05:08,917 --> 00:05:12,007 "Oh, my, your eyes are so red." 110 00:05:12,050 --> 00:05:14,580 And he goes, "You should see 'em from this side." 111 00:05:14,618 --> 00:05:16,268 And I said-- I looked at Liz and said, 112 00:05:16,316 --> 00:05:19,796 "That did it for ya? That one line, like, reeled you in?" 113 00:05:19,841 --> 00:05:21,841 My name is Scott Oliver Hall. 114 00:05:21,886 --> 00:05:25,496 I also was wrestling as Razor Ramone, the bad guy. 115 00:05:25,542 --> 00:05:26,892 I don't know; if I was a chick, 116 00:05:26,935 --> 00:05:29,805 I'd 'a banged Randy. I thought he was cool as hell. 117 00:05:29,851 --> 00:05:31,161 Randy would always tell the story that 118 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,550 it was love at first sight. 119 00:05:32,593 --> 00:05:35,343 "Yeah, she saw me and fell in love. 120 00:05:35,378 --> 00:05:36,988 What more she could want?" 121 00:05:37,032 --> 00:05:39,692 Liz would always be like, "Yeah... 122 00:05:39,730 --> 00:05:42,040 it took a little while to get used to it." 123 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:45,263 She was beautiful, she was phenomenal, 124 00:05:45,301 --> 00:05:48,391 and she was excellent. What a nice person, too. 125 00:05:48,435 --> 00:05:51,475 And I think that came across on television. 126 00:05:51,525 --> 00:05:55,085 Elizabeth got involved in ICW as an announcer, 127 00:05:55,137 --> 00:05:57,097 and she also helped with the editing. 128 00:05:57,139 --> 00:05:58,839 Because it was a mom and pop shop, 129 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,010 we did everything. 130 00:06:00,055 --> 00:06:02,615 And, she was adaptable and brilliant, 131 00:06:02,666 --> 00:06:04,926 and very quick to learn. 132 00:06:04,973 --> 00:06:08,323 Their first wedding was in Frankfort, Kentucky 133 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:12,588 at the home of Elizabeth's mother, 134 00:06:12,633 --> 00:06:15,243 and that was about 6 months before 135 00:06:15,287 --> 00:06:18,117 Randy made his debut with WWE. 136 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,730 Alright, this is gonna be a Jimmy Hart one. 137 00:06:19,770 --> 00:06:21,080 Here we go. Hey, it's me! 138 00:06:21,119 --> 00:06:22,379 The Mouth of the South, Jimmy Hart. 139 00:06:22,425 --> 00:06:24,645 The sun is shining. Life is great! 140 00:06:24,688 --> 00:06:28,208 There's Randy, and myself, and Hulk in WCW 141 00:06:28,257 --> 00:06:29,867 when I managed them for a few matches. 142 00:06:29,911 --> 00:06:31,351 The rest was history. 143 00:06:31,391 --> 00:06:33,041 He goes, "How's New York?" I said, "It's great." 144 00:06:33,088 --> 00:06:34,958 I said, "Look, they just saw your tapes. 145 00:06:35,003 --> 00:06:36,533 They want you in New York." 146 00:06:36,570 --> 00:06:41,360 The Macho Man, Randy Savage, who is quite the competitor, 147 00:06:41,401 --> 00:06:43,841 making his World Wrestling Federation debut. 148 00:06:43,881 --> 00:06:47,541 Vince and Linda McMahon had come down to Florida to 149 00:06:47,581 --> 00:06:51,111 get the contract signed before WrestleMania 1. 150 00:06:51,149 --> 00:06:53,889 Is that Vince? Oh my gosh. Whoa. 151 00:06:53,935 --> 00:06:56,415 When Vince took over, he went around every territory 152 00:06:56,459 --> 00:06:58,549 and took the very best of what was available. 153 00:06:58,592 --> 00:07:01,462 He made you bigger than life. 154 00:07:01,508 --> 00:07:04,248 Vince was taking it to a whole completely new level 155 00:07:04,293 --> 00:07:07,303 that none of us were ready for or even knew about, 156 00:07:07,339 --> 00:07:11,209 or used to, and we were all in for a big huge learning curve. 157 00:07:11,256 --> 00:07:13,476 You know, when Macho came onboard, Vince was like, 158 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,440 "Well, you know, we really want your character to have 159 00:07:16,479 --> 00:07:19,349 a valet, a woman, a manager." 160 00:07:19,395 --> 00:07:21,305 I think Randy probably just sat down and said, 161 00:07:21,353 --> 00:07:23,403 "Look, you know, I want to come up here and I think 162 00:07:23,443 --> 00:07:25,183 I can make you money in this territory. 163 00:07:25,227 --> 00:07:27,657 Can we work a spot out for Liz because she's gonna 164 00:07:27,708 --> 00:07:30,668 go with me on the road. She's gonna be with me." 165 00:07:30,711 --> 00:07:32,801 Randy, if he loved somebody, whether it was his brother 166 00:07:32,843 --> 00:07:35,063 or whether it was Liz or whoever, 167 00:07:35,106 --> 00:07:36,796 he was gonna be very loyal to them. 168 00:07:36,847 --> 00:07:41,027 Macho Man is at his peak right now, 169 00:07:41,069 --> 00:07:45,249 and we gotta know who the manager is gonna be. 170 00:07:45,290 --> 00:07:47,420 They fell in love with her as soon as she opened up the door 171 00:07:47,467 --> 00:07:49,287 and stepped into wrestling history. 172 00:07:49,338 --> 00:07:51,248 ...here she comes. 173 00:07:51,296 --> 00:07:55,476 Oh... Oh... Oh my. 174 00:07:55,518 --> 00:08:00,778 Liz was very demure, very quiet, gentle soul. 175 00:08:00,828 --> 00:08:04,048 The person and the character were really one and the same. 176 00:08:04,092 --> 00:08:08,792 As far as the persona of the Macho Man and the 177 00:08:08,836 --> 00:08:11,796 package of the Macho Man and Miss Elizabeth, 178 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:13,839 was they were two opposites. 179 00:08:13,884 --> 00:08:18,804 And Randy, so intense, and Elizabeth, so subdued. 180 00:08:18,846 --> 00:08:22,716 They wanted you to love Elizabeth and hate Randy. 181 00:08:22,763 --> 00:08:23,983 Picture of Elizabeth. 182 00:08:24,025 --> 00:08:25,765 No picture of the Macho Man Randy Savage. 183 00:08:25,809 --> 00:08:29,159 That's very, very, very bad, Elizabeth. 184 00:08:29,204 --> 00:08:31,824 Randy would bring her out. She'd stand at ringside. 185 00:08:31,859 --> 00:08:33,249 He'd get in the ring, he'd circle around, 186 00:08:33,295 --> 00:08:35,165 and then he'd get out, "No, I told you to stand here!" 187 00:08:35,210 --> 00:08:37,910 The people were hating Randy just for brow beating 188 00:08:37,952 --> 00:08:39,262 the beautiful young girl. 189 00:08:39,301 --> 00:08:40,871 Like, "You can do better than him, honey! 190 00:08:40,911 --> 00:08:42,131 Get away from him." 191 00:08:42,173 --> 00:08:43,783 And there would be times Randy would 192 00:08:43,827 --> 00:08:47,397 give Liz a look and just... 193 00:08:47,439 --> 00:08:48,959 Turn his head and give her those eyes, 194 00:08:49,006 --> 00:08:51,616 and she would almost be subservient. 195 00:08:51,661 --> 00:08:53,971 Macho Man Randy Savage, isn't that right, Liz? 196 00:08:54,011 --> 00:08:56,801 - Right, Randy. - Shut up and keep polishing. 197 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,760 If I lose tonight, it's your fault! 198 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:01,539 Each time he did, they just, "Oh, you sorry son-of-a," 199 00:09:01,584 --> 00:09:04,464 you know, and that's exactly what they wanted. 200 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:06,680 And you want Liz to see the light. 201 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,720 But Liz, underneath this, you're seeing, man, 202 00:09:09,766 --> 00:09:11,246 she loves her man. 203 00:09:11,289 --> 00:09:15,339 And you infer that Randy mistreats her, 204 00:09:15,380 --> 00:09:19,950 but he never really does. He's just a little intense. 205 00:09:19,994 --> 00:09:22,784 By the spring of 1987, Elizabeth and Randy are 206 00:09:22,823 --> 00:09:25,393 red hot and are about to make history in front of 207 00:09:25,434 --> 00:09:28,394 a record-breaking crowd of 93,000 fan's. 208 00:09:28,437 --> 00:09:30,787 WrestleMania 3 was, at the time, 209 00:09:30,831 --> 00:09:32,791 the largest indoor attendance record. 210 00:09:32,833 --> 00:09:35,103 I mean, the largest gathering indoor of 211 00:09:35,139 --> 00:09:36,709 any event in the world. 212 00:09:36,750 --> 00:09:41,540 Oh, Jesus. It was unbelievable, man. 213 00:09:41,581 --> 00:09:43,631 90,000 people. 214 00:09:43,670 --> 00:09:45,320 I had Alice Cooper with me. 215 00:09:45,367 --> 00:09:48,497 I mean, the electricity from the crowd was just unbelievable. 216 00:09:48,544 --> 00:09:51,634 I mean, your skin is crawling and it feels like 217 00:09:51,678 --> 00:09:53,378 your hair is growing. 218 00:09:53,418 --> 00:09:55,458 The Randy Savage- Ricky Steamboat match, 219 00:09:55,507 --> 00:09:57,807 WrestleMania 3, I think a lot of people consider 220 00:09:57,858 --> 00:09:59,768 one of the greatest matches of all time. 221 00:09:59,816 --> 00:10:02,296 Two of the greatest athletes that I have ever seen 222 00:10:02,340 --> 00:10:05,000 in my life. All that athleticism, 223 00:10:05,039 --> 00:10:09,039 all the drama, all that excitement... 224 00:10:09,086 --> 00:10:12,046 It killed him that he could never surpass that match. 225 00:10:12,089 --> 00:10:13,609 He was a perfectionist, 226 00:10:13,656 --> 00:10:16,306 and perfectionists are never happy. 227 00:10:16,354 --> 00:10:19,234 The thing with Savage I learned later on, of course, 228 00:10:19,270 --> 00:10:21,060 when I started working with Savage was... 229 00:10:21,098 --> 00:10:23,618 trying to hold him down. 230 00:10:23,666 --> 00:10:26,756 Because, he always wanted to give more. 231 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,240 Well, sometimes you can give too much. 232 00:10:30,281 --> 00:10:31,851 Two years after their debut, 233 00:10:31,892 --> 00:10:35,422 Randy and Elizabeth are taking the WWF by storm, 234 00:10:35,460 --> 00:10:37,850 but a surprising twist in their story line would 235 00:10:37,898 --> 00:10:44,688 propel them to the top of the wrestling world. 236 00:10:44,731 --> 00:10:46,471 I pulled out a bunch of pictures and tried to find, 237 00:10:46,515 --> 00:10:48,125 that had Liz and Randy. 238 00:10:48,169 --> 00:10:50,349 This is sweet. 239 00:10:50,388 --> 00:10:52,298 There's Randy and Liz. This was just at the condo. 240 00:10:52,347 --> 00:10:54,307 We were just hanging out in Florida. 241 00:10:54,349 --> 00:10:57,399 Polaroid picture, Macho. 242 00:10:57,439 --> 00:10:59,959 A picture of Elizabeth, so sweet. 243 00:11:00,007 --> 00:11:01,917 So, Macho Man, he always kept Elizabeth 244 00:11:01,965 --> 00:11:04,395 in the dressing room, so nobody really knew her. 245 00:11:04,446 --> 00:11:08,406 Then one night, Macho came into our dressing room and said, 246 00:11:08,450 --> 00:11:10,020 "Where's Linda?" 247 00:11:10,060 --> 00:11:13,890 And, ah, "Liz needs some help with her hair." 248 00:11:13,934 --> 00:11:18,074 And she had her hair kind of like coiffed 249 00:11:18,112 --> 00:11:20,902 and tightly curled, and it was just sort of church girl, 250 00:11:20,941 --> 00:11:23,551 and I said, "Bitch, you need to just bring that stuff out," 251 00:11:23,595 --> 00:11:25,115 you know, and so, I started like 252 00:11:25,162 --> 00:11:27,772 getting her hair teased up and kind of stacked it out. 253 00:11:27,817 --> 00:11:29,507 She's like, "Oh yeah, I like that." 254 00:11:29,558 --> 00:11:31,998 Once we all realized that, hey, I live in Tampa. 255 00:11:32,039 --> 00:11:33,339 "Oh, you live in Tampa?" 256 00:11:33,388 --> 00:11:34,818 "Yeah, I live in Clearwater. I live in Largo... 257 00:11:34,868 --> 00:11:36,958 You know, we all kind of lived in this area so we thought, 258 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,520 hey, let's all get together, you know. 259 00:11:38,567 --> 00:11:41,347 It was nice because when we did get a few days off, 260 00:11:41,396 --> 00:11:43,566 I could call on her and she could call on me, 261 00:11:43,615 --> 00:11:46,435 and we could either go shopping, or we could hit the beach. 262 00:11:46,488 --> 00:11:48,928 And, it was just great 'cause at least you had 263 00:11:48,969 --> 00:11:50,749 somebody to do something with. 264 00:11:50,797 --> 00:11:53,357 Hulk would have big parties over there and invite everybody, 265 00:11:53,408 --> 00:11:55,018 you know, and Randy and Liz would go to it. 266 00:11:55,062 --> 00:11:57,672 And it seems like that's when she was the most happiest, 267 00:11:57,717 --> 00:12:00,547 when she could be out around the people and kind of be herself. 268 00:12:00,589 --> 00:12:02,329 You know, we'd be out barbequing in the backyard 269 00:12:02,373 --> 00:12:03,593 the weekend before. 270 00:12:03,635 --> 00:12:05,195 Terry would always kind of like lay it out, 271 00:12:05,246 --> 00:12:07,196 "Here's how I want to run it," and then Randy'd 272 00:12:07,248 --> 00:12:08,638 throw in some ideas, you know. 273 00:12:08,684 --> 00:12:10,694 And Liz would always just go along with whatever, 274 00:12:10,730 --> 00:12:12,690 talking about the "angle". 275 00:12:12,732 --> 00:12:15,602 The hotter the heel, and people after a while 276 00:12:15,647 --> 00:12:17,737 will begin to respect you. 277 00:12:17,780 --> 00:12:21,180 And, Randy was so good, he was hard to boo. 278 00:12:21,218 --> 00:12:23,388 The audience liked him and it was hard to ignore. 279 00:12:23,438 --> 00:12:26,958 Randy Savage was really catching on as a babyface 280 00:12:27,007 --> 00:12:30,267 and people had, had grown to... 281 00:12:30,314 --> 00:12:32,714 really love the Macho Man. 282 00:12:32,752 --> 00:12:34,492 By the end of 1987, 283 00:12:34,536 --> 00:12:36,536 the fans'love for Randy Savage inspires 284 00:12:36,581 --> 00:12:38,581 a revelation in Vince McMahon, 285 00:12:38,627 --> 00:12:41,367 a partnership with the company's top hero to create 286 00:12:41,412 --> 00:12:44,682 a team unlike anything pro wrestling has ever seen. 287 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,030 The two biggest names in the wrestling business at that time 288 00:12:47,070 --> 00:12:48,810 are gonna combine forces, you know, 289 00:12:48,855 --> 00:12:52,505 the madness in Hulkamania combining forces with brother. 290 00:12:52,554 --> 00:12:54,304 With the madness and the mania... 291 00:12:54,338 --> 00:12:55,638 - They got powers. - Yeah! 292 00:12:55,687 --> 00:12:57,597 I mean, who's gonna match up against them? 293 00:12:57,646 --> 00:13:00,126 By the summer of 1988, Hogan and Savage, 294 00:13:00,170 --> 00:13:02,910 with Elizabeth as their manager, appear invincible. 295 00:13:02,956 --> 00:13:04,516 They've destroyed all challengers and the 296 00:13:04,566 --> 00:13:07,526 only place left to turn is on each other. 297 00:13:07,569 --> 00:13:10,269 What we knew is that we would have the Mega Powers explode. 298 00:13:10,311 --> 00:13:13,441 You create the Mega Powers for the Mega Powers to explode, 299 00:13:13,488 --> 00:13:17,098 especially when one is a paranoid schizophrenic, 300 00:13:17,144 --> 00:13:20,024 and the other is the all-American dude. 301 00:13:20,060 --> 00:13:23,850 And what is the easiest thing 302 00:13:23,890 --> 00:13:25,810 for two men to argue about? 303 00:13:25,848 --> 00:13:27,278 A woman. 304 00:13:27,328 --> 00:13:28,758 Summer Slam '88. 305 00:13:28,808 --> 00:13:31,328 Randy hoists Liz up on his shoulder and goes around, 306 00:13:31,375 --> 00:13:33,595 and when he does, there's like a little slip, 307 00:13:33,638 --> 00:13:36,248 Hulk puts his hand up to steady her. 308 00:13:36,293 --> 00:13:37,603 "Freeze it! 309 00:13:37,642 --> 00:13:41,912 Look at how long his hand is on Elizabeth, huh! 310 00:13:41,951 --> 00:13:45,391 Nobody touches Elizabeth, un-uh." 311 00:13:45,433 --> 00:13:47,223 There was Hulk, "Say your prayers, take your vitamins," 312 00:13:47,261 --> 00:13:49,481 you know, "Here's the American flag." 313 00:13:49,524 --> 00:13:52,274 And here's Randy going, "You know, I don't think 314 00:13:52,309 --> 00:13:54,919 you're as truthful as everybody thinks you really are." 315 00:13:54,964 --> 00:13:57,454 They don't realize that underneath, 316 00:13:57,488 --> 00:13:58,788 he's been boiling. 317 00:13:58,838 --> 00:14:01,188 You got lust in your eyes 318 00:14:01,231 --> 00:14:04,761 and in your black heart, for Elizabeth! 319 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,720 Randy is the jealous raving lunatic and Hulk is the 320 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,550 best friend who's trying to screw his best friend's girl. 321 00:14:11,589 --> 00:14:14,589 Picked her up and put Elizabeth where she has 322 00:14:14,636 --> 00:14:19,076 never been before, on top of another man's shoulders! 323 00:14:19,119 --> 00:14:21,379 It's easy for him to blow it out of proportion because 324 00:14:21,425 --> 00:14:23,645 you can tell the jealousy side of it. 325 00:14:23,688 --> 00:14:27,168 He's blinded by love and he's blinded by rage. 326 00:14:27,214 --> 00:14:28,694 He's paranoid. 327 00:14:28,737 --> 00:14:30,347 He's got the championship; he's got the whole world 328 00:14:30,391 --> 00:14:32,521 on his back, so of course everybody's trying to 329 00:14:32,567 --> 00:14:34,957 knock him off, even his best friend. 330 00:14:35,004 --> 00:14:36,444 His best friend's not only trying to knock 'em off, 331 00:14:36,484 --> 00:14:37,704 he's trying to take my girl. 332 00:14:37,746 --> 00:14:39,656 That really played off Randy's paranoia, 333 00:14:39,704 --> 00:14:42,104 and it was real, so that's what really made it work. 334 00:14:42,142 --> 00:14:44,932 The Twin Towers - Big Boss Man and Akeem - 335 00:14:44,971 --> 00:14:47,931 against, you know, Randy and Hulk, the Mega Powers. 336 00:14:47,974 --> 00:14:50,114 But there was a point in the match where Randy took 337 00:14:50,150 --> 00:14:54,070 a bump out and ended up taking Liz out. 338 00:14:54,110 --> 00:14:56,500 Hulk sees that she's hurt, 339 00:14:56,547 --> 00:14:59,377 carries her back to get her help. 340 00:14:59,420 --> 00:15:01,250 "You're hovering over her, over the bed. 341 00:15:01,291 --> 00:15:03,341 How dare you! 342 00:15:03,380 --> 00:15:05,950 I'm out there fighting for my life, 343 00:15:05,992 --> 00:15:07,692 but you're more concerned about her. 344 00:15:07,732 --> 00:15:09,652 It all makes sense now!" 345 00:15:09,691 --> 00:15:12,781 When you take a look at the madness' eyes, 346 00:15:12,824 --> 00:15:15,394 all you're gonna see is 347 00:15:15,436 --> 00:15:21,616 complete and utter rage! 348 00:15:21,659 --> 00:15:23,749 Match made. 349 00:15:23,792 --> 00:15:26,532 What corner is Elizabeth gonna be in? 350 00:15:26,577 --> 00:15:28,007 Well, a lot of people wondered, 351 00:15:28,057 --> 00:15:30,487 did Randy really control her in and out of the ring; 352 00:15:30,538 --> 00:15:31,968 absolutely. 353 00:15:32,018 --> 00:15:33,318 Randy... 354 00:15:33,367 --> 00:15:37,407 Very protective of her, man. God, you have no idea. 355 00:15:37,458 --> 00:15:41,638 I mean, he would get visibly upset with anybody that 356 00:15:41,679 --> 00:15:45,859 tried to talk to her or carry on a conversation with her. 357 00:15:45,901 --> 00:15:47,561 He just did not like it. 358 00:15:47,598 --> 00:15:50,558 When they would be getting ready for an event, 359 00:15:50,601 --> 00:15:53,741 we didn't want any malfunctions with her wardrobe, 360 00:15:53,778 --> 00:15:57,038 so he would literally take the tape... 361 00:15:57,086 --> 00:15:59,996 and like wrap it all around her whole body. 362 00:16:00,046 --> 00:16:01,996 And then, the other big thing was because she was 363 00:16:02,048 --> 00:16:04,748 always in a short dress was, getting into the ring and 364 00:16:04,789 --> 00:16:06,359 entering the ring over the rope, 365 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,180 and was she gonna go over the second rope? 366 00:16:08,228 --> 00:16:09,528 She should go under it. 367 00:16:09,577 --> 00:16:11,577 This was all a big huge thing for Randy because 368 00:16:11,622 --> 00:16:14,022 this was his wife. He loved and respected her, 369 00:16:14,060 --> 00:16:16,930 and he didn't want anybody to be making fun of her. 370 00:16:16,976 --> 00:16:19,496 He was definitely in charge of that relationship and 371 00:16:19,543 --> 00:16:21,423 she was just the tag along. 372 00:16:21,458 --> 00:16:24,678 And, I think that that started to grow on her. 373 00:16:24,722 --> 00:16:26,862 I think that started to just unnerve her. 374 00:16:26,898 --> 00:16:30,688 That may have been where a lot of the issues started. 375 00:16:30,728 --> 00:16:32,638 In WrestleMania 5, are you gonna be in 376 00:16:32,687 --> 00:16:35,817 the Macho Man Randy Savage's corner? 377 00:16:35,864 --> 00:16:39,134 When you take real life situations and you put it 378 00:16:39,172 --> 00:16:42,042 in front of the camera, it's great because 379 00:16:42,088 --> 00:16:43,608 it's usually very relatable. 380 00:16:43,654 --> 00:16:45,444 - No, no. - 381 00:16:45,482 --> 00:16:49,402 However, when you take your real life feelings and you 382 00:16:49,443 --> 00:16:53,583 put them on camera, and you make it a part of a story line, 383 00:16:53,621 --> 00:16:55,491 'cause they don't know you... 384 00:16:55,536 --> 00:17:00,056 they don't know what you guys do when the doors shut at night. 385 00:17:00,106 --> 00:17:01,626 They have no clue. 386 00:17:01,672 --> 00:17:03,982 But, they know you're really married and they know 387 00:17:04,023 --> 00:17:07,373 what you said on TV, you sorry son of a bitch. 388 00:17:07,417 --> 00:17:10,117 Life imitating art... 389 00:17:10,159 --> 00:17:13,419 And sometimes art imitates life. 390 00:17:13,467 --> 00:17:20,257 And then you get really fucked up. 391 00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:23,390 Being on the road 24/7 with your spouse, 392 00:17:23,433 --> 00:17:25,263 it's not an easy task. 393 00:17:25,305 --> 00:17:28,085 You know, Elizabeth, as his wife, 394 00:17:28,134 --> 00:17:30,924 had those same duties as I did. 395 00:17:30,962 --> 00:17:33,182 I did travel with Randy and Liz a lot, 396 00:17:33,226 --> 00:17:38,316 and their relationship was that of a married couple on the road. 397 00:17:38,361 --> 00:17:39,581 They didn't go out and party. 398 00:17:39,623 --> 00:17:41,023 They went back to the room and went to bed, 399 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:42,890 and they had their privacy. 400 00:17:42,931 --> 00:17:45,241 You'd get back to the room, and she would have to 401 00:17:45,281 --> 00:17:48,721 scrub the blood off the boots like I did to Terry's, 402 00:17:48,763 --> 00:17:50,293 from their wrestling match. 403 00:17:50,330 --> 00:17:51,810 You know, you'd put the wrestling boots in the 404 00:17:51,853 --> 00:17:54,123 bath tub of the hotel and wash them off, 405 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,680 get all the blood off 'cause they had to wear 'em the 406 00:17:55,726 --> 00:17:58,686 next night, and I'm sure he probably wanted to get laid 407 00:17:58,729 --> 00:18:00,249 and I'm sure she probably didn't, 408 00:18:00,296 --> 00:18:02,686 you know, and maybe she did and he didn't. 409 00:18:02,733 --> 00:18:06,393 Then, her, unlike me, she has to think about herself. 410 00:18:06,433 --> 00:18:08,393 What the hell dress is she gonna wear? 411 00:18:08,435 --> 00:18:10,385 I had my wife involved for a while, man. 412 00:18:10,437 --> 00:18:12,957 It's brutal, man, having your wife around the guys. 413 00:18:13,004 --> 00:18:15,144 They did practical jokes that were cruel. 414 00:18:15,181 --> 00:18:19,921 I'm telling ya, they used people's suitcases as toilets. 415 00:18:19,968 --> 00:18:22,138 There were no boundaries; that was the problem. 416 00:18:22,188 --> 00:18:24,018 I mean, you know, cutting somebody's hair off 417 00:18:24,059 --> 00:18:26,019 while they're passed out, or, I mean, 418 00:18:26,061 --> 00:18:28,021 I wouldn't want my wife around that shit. 419 00:18:28,063 --> 00:18:30,153 The pattern seemed to be that Randy wanted to keep 420 00:18:30,196 --> 00:18:34,546 Elizabeth away from "the boys" as much as possible. 421 00:18:34,591 --> 00:18:36,121 And... you know, there's... 422 00:18:36,158 --> 00:18:37,728 I don't blame him, really. 423 00:18:37,768 --> 00:18:41,078 Randy being so intense and being so watchful over her, 424 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:43,470 she couldn't have freedom. 425 00:18:43,513 --> 00:18:45,393 And I think, I think you can't smother somebody 426 00:18:45,428 --> 00:18:47,128 all the time like that. 427 00:18:47,169 --> 00:18:49,949 Elizabeth wanted to leave the road and 428 00:18:49,998 --> 00:18:51,698 she wanted Randy to quit. 429 00:18:51,739 --> 00:18:54,569 Randy wasn't done yet. Randy was still enjoying it. 430 00:18:54,611 --> 00:18:57,351 I knew she needed to have more socialization and, 431 00:18:57,397 --> 00:19:01,747 and more friends, and she missed having the normal life, but... 432 00:19:01,792 --> 00:19:04,752 Liz, apparently, was looking for something more than that, 433 00:19:04,795 --> 00:19:07,055 than I realized at the time. 434 00:19:07,102 --> 00:19:09,502 By 1990, an exhausted Elizabeth asked for 435 00:19:09,539 --> 00:19:10,929 some time off the road, 436 00:19:10,975 --> 00:19:13,195 and the WWF seized this as an opportunity 437 00:19:13,239 --> 00:19:16,939 to reinvent the Macho Man into a new kind of villain. 438 00:19:16,981 --> 00:19:18,681 We did Randy as the heel. 439 00:19:18,722 --> 00:19:20,202 We made Randy the Macho King, 440 00:19:20,246 --> 00:19:22,766 and thought that Sensational Sherri 441 00:19:22,813 --> 00:19:25,163 to be his manager, another female and 442 00:19:25,207 --> 00:19:26,507 make her the queen. 443 00:19:26,556 --> 00:19:28,206 Sherri was a women's wrestler, 444 00:19:28,254 --> 00:19:30,174 and the guys loved working with Sherri because 445 00:19:30,212 --> 00:19:32,352 she could take it, she was tough as nails. 446 00:19:32,388 --> 00:19:34,558 Queen Sherri adds a whole new dimension to the 447 00:19:34,608 --> 00:19:37,348 Macho Man's character, but the fans demand to see 448 00:19:37,393 --> 00:19:40,703 wrestling's First Lady back in her rightful place. 449 00:19:40,744 --> 00:19:44,444 Every day that Randy spent with Sherri, everybody said, 450 00:19:44,487 --> 00:19:46,317 "Let's bring-- Where's Elizabeth? Where's Elizabeth?" 451 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,189 I mean, the people hungered for Elizabeth. 452 00:19:49,231 --> 00:19:51,451 Going into WrestleMania, Randy was looking to 453 00:19:51,494 --> 00:19:52,894 take the summer off. 454 00:19:52,930 --> 00:19:55,460 He and Liz were looking to spend time together as 455 00:19:55,498 --> 00:19:59,498 husband and wife, not being on the road all the time. 456 00:19:59,546 --> 00:20:02,236 So the idea was, at WrestleMania 7, 457 00:20:02,288 --> 00:20:05,378 have a, a career match with the Ultimate Warrior. 458 00:20:05,421 --> 00:20:07,031 If Warrior lost, he was gone. 459 00:20:07,075 --> 00:20:08,555 If Randy lost, he was gone. 460 00:20:08,598 --> 00:20:10,948 We'd shown, earlier in the night, 461 00:20:10,992 --> 00:20:14,912 that in attendance that night was Elizabeth in the crowd, 462 00:20:14,952 --> 00:20:16,912 sitting like in the 4th row. 463 00:20:16,954 --> 00:20:20,354 And, when Sherri started to kick Randy and go after Randy, 464 00:20:20,393 --> 00:20:23,793 Liz made her way to the ring and pulled Sherri off, 465 00:20:23,831 --> 00:20:26,051 and you know, Liz is there fighting for her man, 466 00:20:26,094 --> 00:20:29,534 and people were... are slowly applauding, 467 00:20:29,576 --> 00:20:33,536 and you see grown men with tears in their eyes... 468 00:20:33,580 --> 00:20:35,280 That's emotional. That's good stuff. 469 00:20:35,321 --> 00:20:37,501 We got 'em... 470 00:20:37,540 --> 00:20:39,020 because it, it was... 471 00:20:39,063 --> 00:20:40,983 they felt it, you know, and people could feel that, too, 472 00:20:41,022 --> 00:20:43,152 you know, the getting back together, 473 00:20:43,198 --> 00:20:45,198 getting back to the one you really love. 474 00:20:45,244 --> 00:20:48,684 Elizabeth... 475 00:20:48,725 --> 00:20:50,985 Will you marry me? 476 00:20:51,032 --> 00:20:54,082 Despite being married in real life for 7 years, 477 00:20:54,122 --> 00:20:55,862 which was kept secret from fans, 478 00:20:55,906 --> 00:20:58,166 Randy and Elizabeth's characters finally tied the knot 479 00:20:58,213 --> 00:21:02,133 on live television on August the 26th, 1991. 480 00:21:02,173 --> 00:21:04,183 Oh, yeah. 481 00:21:05,829 --> 00:21:07,269 And they were excited. I mean, they, 482 00:21:07,309 --> 00:21:10,619 they were like two kids planning for their wedding. 483 00:21:10,660 --> 00:21:12,400 I think it was just the first time you ever saw the 484 00:21:12,445 --> 00:21:14,705 Macho Man break down and have a human emotion, 485 00:21:14,751 --> 00:21:16,281 other than anger. 486 00:21:16,318 --> 00:21:19,708 You saw him actually happy, and you saw him emotionally 487 00:21:19,756 --> 00:21:24,406 care for someone outwardly, which you had never seen before. 488 00:21:24,457 --> 00:21:29,377 Liz and Randy are having this beautiful wedding ceremony... 489 00:21:29,418 --> 00:21:31,028 Now cue the devil. 490 00:21:33,204 --> 00:21:35,254 And, at the reception bullshit... 491 00:21:36,643 --> 00:21:38,563 Putting the snake in the box and all that crap, 492 00:21:38,601 --> 00:21:40,391 and that got it started, that kicked it off. 493 00:21:40,429 --> 00:21:42,999 14, 15-foot king cobra. 494 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,220 Look at that son of a bitch. 495 00:21:45,260 --> 00:21:48,610 Beautiful, beautiful fucking animal. 496 00:21:48,655 --> 00:21:52,395 Randy came to me and said, "So, tonight, 497 00:21:52,441 --> 00:21:56,321 I hear we're gonna do something a little different, hm?" 498 00:21:56,358 --> 00:21:58,058 I'm like, "Yeah, man. A snake's biting ya." 499 00:21:58,099 --> 00:22:04,499 And he's like, "Yeah, so... Has the snake been fixed?" 500 00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:05,980 "Fuck, yeah! 501 00:22:06,020 --> 00:22:08,630 It's a fucking cobra, you dumb shit! 502 00:22:08,675 --> 00:22:10,365 Of course it's been fixed!" 503 00:22:10,416 --> 00:22:13,326 "Maybe it has and maybe it hasn't. 504 00:22:13,375 --> 00:22:16,545 How about the snake biting you first?" 505 00:22:16,596 --> 00:22:18,376 "Fuck you, man. I ain't fucking let--" 506 00:22:18,424 --> 00:22:21,434 "Oh, oh, you don't want it to bite you. 507 00:22:21,470 --> 00:22:23,210 'Cause if you won't let the snake bite you, 508 00:22:23,254 --> 00:22:25,784 that tells me it hasn't been fixed." 509 00:22:25,822 --> 00:22:28,522 And he was dead fucking serious, man, so... 510 00:22:28,564 --> 00:22:31,094 I went and got the snake, and rolled up my pants leg 511 00:22:31,132 --> 00:22:32,792 and let it bite me. 512 00:22:32,829 --> 00:22:35,789 And, he's like, "Don't move. Don't take no pills. 513 00:22:35,832 --> 00:22:38,922 Don't take no antidote, don't take no serums, 514 00:22:38,966 --> 00:22:40,786 no fucking nothing, brother." 515 00:22:40,837 --> 00:22:43,927 Fuck! For like 20 minutes, man, he's like, 516 00:22:43,971 --> 00:22:47,321 "I guess you're okay. How do you feel, man?" 517 00:22:47,366 --> 00:22:50,056 "Pissed off right now, to be honest with you." 518 00:22:50,107 --> 00:22:51,717 So when it was time for that snake to bite him, 519 00:22:51,761 --> 00:22:54,111 I got the snake out and turned my back to him, 520 00:22:54,155 --> 00:22:56,935 and I fucking paint-brushed the shit out of that snake, 521 00:22:56,984 --> 00:22:59,554 pissed it off. And then, 522 00:22:59,595 --> 00:23:02,595 whenever I turned around that snake was just, "Agh!" 523 00:23:02,642 --> 00:23:05,042 You know, he was ready. 524 00:23:05,079 --> 00:23:07,859 And I got him close to Randy and he latched to him and 525 00:23:07,908 --> 00:23:10,298 would not let go. 526 00:23:10,345 --> 00:23:13,605 I mean, the time that you see it on television was 527 00:23:13,653 --> 00:23:17,133 nothing to the real time. It went on forever. 528 00:23:17,178 --> 00:23:19,568 Vince wound up sending Elizabeth down, 529 00:23:19,615 --> 00:23:22,265 "Get the snake off of him. Get it off of him! 530 00:23:22,313 --> 00:23:24,623 Vince said now!" I'm like, "I'm fucking trying." 531 00:23:24,664 --> 00:23:27,804 And I'm pulling on the snake and it wouldn't let go. 532 00:23:27,841 --> 00:23:30,761 It's just chewing on him. And it's like anything else. 533 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,110 First time it's ever been done, 534 00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:35,199 it shocks people, man. The, the visual, you know. 535 00:23:35,239 --> 00:23:38,029 Bottom line is nobody ever felt sorry for Randy. 536 00:23:38,068 --> 00:23:39,848 They felt sorry for her. 537 00:23:39,896 --> 00:23:42,326 And it's not a good situation. 538 00:23:42,377 --> 00:23:44,807 Like with me, whenever I slapped Elizabeth, 539 00:23:44,858 --> 00:23:49,818 and then they tried to go home to see her family, 540 00:23:49,863 --> 00:23:52,133 Grandpa meets him on the porch and says, 541 00:23:52,169 --> 00:23:54,429 "You're not coming in this house, boy. 542 00:23:54,476 --> 00:23:57,476 You promised us you'd always protect our little girl." 543 00:23:57,523 --> 00:24:01,093 The only way he could gain access back into their home 544 00:24:01,135 --> 00:24:04,615 was basically kicking my ass and getting even, 545 00:24:04,660 --> 00:24:06,140 so to speak. 546 00:24:06,183 --> 00:24:09,753 You know, these are Tennessee folks, bro, you know... 547 00:24:09,796 --> 00:24:11,576 Wrestling's real. People are fake. 548 00:24:13,016 --> 00:24:14,236 What was the state of their relationship 549 00:24:14,278 --> 00:24:15,578 at the time they were getting married again? 550 00:24:15,628 --> 00:24:17,498 I would say tumultuous. 551 00:24:17,543 --> 00:24:19,503 On the verge of breaking up. 552 00:24:20,850 --> 00:24:23,420 So, Terry had been cast in a movie. 553 00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:24,902 It's called Mr. Nanny. 554 00:24:24,941 --> 00:24:27,601 It required us to be down in Miami for about 8 weeks, so 555 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,430 Liz called and goes, "When are you gonna be back home?" 556 00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:32,949 And I said, "I'm going back the next week." 557 00:24:32,993 --> 00:24:35,693 She's like, "Oh," she's like, "Randy, can I please go?" 558 00:24:35,735 --> 00:24:37,385 I heard her talking to him in the back of the phone. 559 00:24:37,432 --> 00:24:38,562 She's like, "Can I please go? 560 00:24:38,607 --> 00:24:40,167 I want to go help Linda with the kids. 561 00:24:40,217 --> 00:24:42,257 I just want to go see them and hang out with 562 00:24:42,306 --> 00:24:43,866 Nick and Brooke in the pool and stuff." 563 00:24:43,917 --> 00:24:46,437 And he's like, "Well, only if you're gonna be 564 00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:48,525 babysitting and you're gonna be with Linda." 565 00:24:48,574 --> 00:24:50,494 She flew down with us. It was so much fun. 566 00:24:50,532 --> 00:24:51,792 She helped me unload the kids, 567 00:24:51,838 --> 00:24:53,578 we got the toys, we were hanging out. 568 00:24:53,622 --> 00:24:55,022 We were all gonna go out to dinner, you know, 569 00:24:55,058 --> 00:24:57,448 I said, so, I'll just go get ready, do whatever, 570 00:24:57,496 --> 00:24:59,536 come back from your workout or whatever, and... 571 00:24:59,585 --> 00:25:01,495 7:30, I'm thinking like, aren't we gonna do 572 00:25:01,543 --> 00:25:03,553 our makeup together and our hair together, 573 00:25:03,589 --> 00:25:05,239 which is what we always did, so I'm kind of like 574 00:25:05,286 --> 00:25:08,066 knocking on her door and I see the light is on, 575 00:25:08,115 --> 00:25:12,075 I can see under the door, but she's not answering. 576 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:18,339 I'm like, "Where's Liz?" 577 00:25:18,386 --> 00:25:21,476 In 1992, leaving her husband Randy Savage behind, 578 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,310 Elizabeth travels alone to Miami to stay with 579 00:25:24,348 --> 00:25:26,868 Hulk Hogan and his wife, Linda. 580 00:25:26,916 --> 00:25:29,306 Terry had to film the next morning and the 581 00:25:29,353 --> 00:25:31,313 whole next day goes on and I see her at the pool. 582 00:25:31,355 --> 00:25:32,875 I'm like, "Liz, where were you?" 583 00:25:32,922 --> 00:25:34,362 You know, "We were worried about you." 584 00:25:34,402 --> 00:25:36,752 And she's like, "Oh, well, I met this other gentleman 585 00:25:36,796 --> 00:25:39,446 that lives in the building and he has an extra room 586 00:25:39,494 --> 00:25:40,714 here in the building, and he, 587 00:25:40,756 --> 00:25:43,016 he thought maybe I'd want to take it." 588 00:25:43,063 --> 00:25:45,373 The way I heard the story was that Liz wanted 589 00:25:45,413 --> 00:25:48,723 away from Randy, and so, she contacted Hulk's wife, 590 00:25:48,764 --> 00:25:52,164 Linda, and went and stayed with them. 591 00:25:52,202 --> 00:25:54,202 Now meanwhile, Randy is freaking out 'cause 592 00:25:54,248 --> 00:25:57,988 he doesn't know where the love of his life is. 593 00:25:58,034 --> 00:26:01,434 Randy kept calling my room wanting to talk to Liz, 594 00:26:01,472 --> 00:26:03,692 and I was like, "Liz is not here." 595 00:26:03,736 --> 00:26:05,516 I didn't say she had her own room. 596 00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:06,964 I just said, "She's not here. 597 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,260 I think she's with friends," or something like that, 598 00:26:08,305 --> 00:26:09,565 and he goes, "Well, where is she?" 599 00:26:09,611 --> 00:26:11,091 I was like, "She's not here, she's not here." 600 00:26:11,134 --> 00:26:13,624 Randy was like, "I'm gonna fly down," you know, 601 00:26:13,659 --> 00:26:15,789 "don't tell her because I, I don't like this. 602 00:26:15,835 --> 00:26:17,915 You know, she's never like missed my calls and 603 00:26:17,967 --> 00:26:19,187 she should be answering. 604 00:26:19,229 --> 00:26:21,059 She should at least be calling me back." 605 00:26:21,101 --> 00:26:24,191 Three hours later, he lands, comes in, 606 00:26:24,234 --> 00:26:25,454 blazing in the door. 607 00:26:25,496 --> 00:26:28,406 Blazing guns of fire, looking for Liz, 608 00:26:28,456 --> 00:26:31,936 and I'm sitting there and he's like, "Where's Liz?" 609 00:26:31,981 --> 00:26:35,031 I was like, "Randy, look. I don't know." 610 00:26:35,071 --> 00:26:37,291 He's like, "What?" You know, 611 00:26:37,334 --> 00:26:38,904 "Where do you think she is?" 612 00:26:38,945 --> 00:26:41,205 You know, "Who was she with last? 613 00:26:41,251 --> 00:26:42,911 What did you guys do? 614 00:26:42,949 --> 00:26:46,559 I'm gonna go find Liz and I want you sitting here in the chair, 615 00:26:46,605 --> 00:26:48,865 and if you so much as leave this chair and 616 00:26:48,911 --> 00:26:51,311 you smarten her up and tell her that I'm here looking for her, 617 00:26:51,348 --> 00:26:52,788 you're gonna hear about it." 618 00:26:52,828 --> 00:26:54,998 I'd never seen Randy like this before in my life 619 00:26:55,048 --> 00:26:57,618 because I'd never even seen them argue or fight. 620 00:26:57,659 --> 00:26:59,309 Seriously, I really hadn't. 621 00:26:59,356 --> 00:27:01,486 So, him and Terry went out the door, 622 00:27:01,532 --> 00:27:03,582 and I didn't know what was going on. 623 00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:05,152 I just knew I wasn't leaving the chair. 624 00:27:05,188 --> 00:27:06,758 And, I guess he found her. 625 00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:08,449 Terry came back to the room and said, 626 00:27:08,496 --> 00:27:10,976 "I left them on their own. They're sorting it out." 627 00:27:11,020 --> 00:27:13,410 So they got in their rental car and they drove back home 628 00:27:13,457 --> 00:27:15,627 and he basically told Terry in so many words or less, 629 00:27:15,677 --> 00:27:18,107 like, "Liz is not coming back to Miami and 630 00:27:18,158 --> 00:27:20,288 there's no more hanging out. Party's over. 631 00:27:20,334 --> 00:27:23,254 This is ridiculous. She just went too crazy," you know. 632 00:27:23,293 --> 00:27:27,253 I think Randy felt, you know, again, life imitating art, 633 00:27:27,297 --> 00:27:31,077 that Hulk was taking Liz's side. 634 00:27:31,127 --> 00:27:32,867 Well, that was the beginning of the end for them, 635 00:27:32,912 --> 00:27:36,052 but beginning of the end for Randy and Hulk too because 636 00:27:36,089 --> 00:27:38,269 Randy always thought that Hulk had something to do with it. 637 00:27:38,308 --> 00:27:40,828 And, I'm with-- I've been with Hulk for 39 years. 638 00:27:40,876 --> 00:27:42,176 Hulk had nothing to do with that. 639 00:27:42,225 --> 00:27:44,095 He was shooting the doggone movie. 640 00:27:44,140 --> 00:27:47,450 I think that when, when you separate and like 641 00:27:47,491 --> 00:27:51,451 she's at home and he's on the road, that... 642 00:27:51,495 --> 00:27:53,665 all of a sudden, it's a newfound freedom and 643 00:27:53,715 --> 00:27:56,715 that's a whole brand new life on both parts. 644 00:27:56,762 --> 00:27:58,152 You know, it was just a normal day. 645 00:27:58,198 --> 00:28:00,028 I was just home with the kids... 646 00:28:00,069 --> 00:28:03,289 beautiful day out, and this is probably like 647 00:28:03,333 --> 00:28:07,253 5, 6 weeks after we wrapped filming and we left Miami. 648 00:28:07,294 --> 00:28:08,694 You know, hard line phones. 649 00:28:08,730 --> 00:28:09,860 I'm in the kitchen. 650 00:28:09,905 --> 00:28:11,725 I'm giving Nick a bottle or whatever, 651 00:28:11,777 --> 00:28:13,737 and it's Liz. I'm like, "Hey, Liz! 652 00:28:13,779 --> 00:28:15,349 God, I miss you. How are you?" 653 00:28:15,389 --> 00:28:16,869 You know... 654 00:28:16,912 --> 00:28:19,742 And it was like dead silent on the other end of the phone. 655 00:28:19,785 --> 00:28:24,135 I was like, "Liz?" She's like, "Linda... 656 00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:28,750 I left Randy." 657 00:28:28,794 --> 00:28:30,674 I was listening to her and she was like, 658 00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:32,409 sounded like she was at a gas station or something. 659 00:28:32,449 --> 00:28:34,319 I could hear cars going by on the freeway, you know. 660 00:28:34,364 --> 00:28:35,414 I was like, oh my God. 661 00:28:35,452 --> 00:28:37,112 She goes, "I'm done. I left him." 662 00:28:37,150 --> 00:28:39,020 And I said, "Oh my God." I said, "Are you home? 663 00:28:39,065 --> 00:28:40,755 Can I come help you? Can I talk to you?" 664 00:28:40,806 --> 00:28:43,326 I was like, I need to talk some sense into this girl, you know. 665 00:28:43,373 --> 00:28:44,683 And, she wasn't home. She goes, 666 00:28:44,723 --> 00:28:46,123 "Nope. I'm halfway to Miami. 667 00:28:46,159 --> 00:28:48,159 I'm going back. I met some people there. 668 00:28:48,204 --> 00:28:50,514 I got a place to stay." She goes, 669 00:28:50,554 --> 00:28:55,604 "Just promise me, don't tell Randy that I'm on the road." 670 00:28:55,646 --> 00:28:57,516 She had a convertible, little red Cadillac. 671 00:28:57,561 --> 00:29:00,521 And I, I just-- The mental picture in my mind was her, 672 00:29:00,564 --> 00:29:02,704 like a country music video or something, 673 00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:05,611 with two suitcases in the back and just driving her convertible 674 00:29:05,656 --> 00:29:08,486 down to Miami with the wind blowing through her hair, 675 00:29:08,529 --> 00:29:11,529 probably feeling free and relieved of the 676 00:29:11,575 --> 00:29:15,795 constant submission that Randy had on her. 677 00:29:15,841 --> 00:29:17,891 And it wasn't that he was trying to do it 678 00:29:17,930 --> 00:29:19,280 out of being mean or anything. 679 00:29:19,322 --> 00:29:20,932 It was just his protective way, 680 00:29:20,976 --> 00:29:24,146 but she had just had enough of that suppression. 681 00:29:24,197 --> 00:29:27,937 When Randy and Liz split up, you could tell there was 682 00:29:27,983 --> 00:29:29,643 a change in the Macho Man. 683 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,550 You know, he was a little drawn back. 684 00:29:31,595 --> 00:29:36,035 He really wasn't as intense as he was when they were together. 685 00:29:36,078 --> 00:29:40,558 Once she was gone, he really kind of just went silent. 686 00:29:40,604 --> 00:29:42,824 He lost all... 687 00:29:42,868 --> 00:29:44,828 he didn't really care about the business, 688 00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:47,000 you know, it was like the lights are on, 689 00:29:47,046 --> 00:29:48,396 but nobody's home. 690 00:29:48,438 --> 00:29:52,138 Sad, but yet, there was that exterior that was, 691 00:29:52,181 --> 00:29:53,661 "Okay, I've gotta move on." 692 00:29:53,704 --> 00:29:55,924 I think Randy was tormented. 693 00:29:55,968 --> 00:29:57,488 You know, I mean, he had all the money, 694 00:29:57,534 --> 00:29:59,194 all the stuff, and all that, but he always, 695 00:29:59,232 --> 00:30:01,232 he was never... 696 00:30:01,277 --> 00:30:03,187 I don't know; he was always so wound up, 697 00:30:03,236 --> 00:30:05,886 and I'm thinking "Mach, like, you've made it, bro." 698 00:30:05,934 --> 00:30:07,414 Like, what's missing? 699 00:30:07,457 --> 00:30:10,107 Like, what's it gonna take to make you happy? 700 00:30:10,156 --> 00:30:13,376 One day, we were sitting in the car... 701 00:30:13,420 --> 00:30:15,860 ah, waiting for Vince to come down, 702 00:30:15,901 --> 00:30:18,641 taking forever, and Vince gets in the car, 703 00:30:18,686 --> 00:30:21,906 shuts the door and says, "Gentlemen, Randy Savage is 704 00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:25,780 now the proud property of World Championship Wrestling." 705 00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:31,004 And, we're like... 706 00:30:31,046 --> 00:30:37,266 "What happened?" 707 00:30:37,313 --> 00:30:42,543 WCW was owned by Ted Turner, the competition to the WWF. 708 00:30:42,579 --> 00:30:46,849 Ted Turner had started to try and lure talent from the 709 00:30:46,888 --> 00:30:50,328 WWF over to WCW. 710 00:30:50,370 --> 00:30:53,900 Hulk Hogan was the first talent that made the big jump. 711 00:30:53,939 --> 00:30:56,379 The Macho Man, Randy Savage, he's interested in coming over 712 00:30:56,419 --> 00:30:59,159 because the WWE, Randy had been 713 00:30:59,205 --> 00:31:01,765 put out to pasture by Vince McMahon. 714 00:31:01,816 --> 00:31:04,116 And Vince McMahon basically said, "Randy, you're too old. 715 00:31:04,166 --> 00:31:06,776 Your gimmick's over, your shtick is done. 716 00:31:06,821 --> 00:31:08,131 You're gonna be a colour commentator," 717 00:31:08,170 --> 00:31:09,960 and that hurt Randy. 718 00:31:09,998 --> 00:31:12,168 I didn't want to reinvent a wheel that I believed 719 00:31:12,218 --> 00:31:14,388 already worked. And by the way, 720 00:31:14,437 --> 00:31:16,267 when Randy Savage came over... 721 00:31:17,788 --> 00:31:19,878 - Want to spice up your life? - Yeah! 722 00:31:19,921 --> 00:31:21,231 Have a Slim Jim! 723 00:31:21,270 --> 00:31:25,140 ...$750,000 a year of Slim Jim money came with him, 724 00:31:25,187 --> 00:31:29,927 and Slim Jim wasn't interested in changing Randy Savage. 725 00:31:29,975 --> 00:31:33,325 WCW has given the Macho Man a renewed career, 726 00:31:33,369 --> 00:31:35,329 but his protective nature won't allow him to leave 727 00:31:35,371 --> 00:31:37,371 his one true love behind. 728 00:31:37,417 --> 00:31:39,937 Randy called her up and said, "Come on in. 729 00:31:39,985 --> 00:31:42,245 You can be a part of the story line, make some money." 730 00:31:42,291 --> 00:31:44,821 He's divorcing Elizabeth at this point, 731 00:31:44,859 --> 00:31:46,819 but cares about her enough that he gets her a 732 00:31:46,861 --> 00:31:49,121 250 grand a year contract, 733 00:31:49,168 --> 00:31:50,778 just to kind of stand around and look pretty. 734 00:31:50,821 --> 00:31:52,431 She wasn't even on camera much, 735 00:31:52,475 --> 00:31:54,385 but he wanted her looked after. 736 00:31:54,434 --> 00:31:56,744 Except this time, she was the villain and 737 00:31:56,784 --> 00:31:58,664 Randy was the babyface. It was perfect. 738 00:31:58,699 --> 00:32:00,139 She had changed so much. 739 00:32:00,179 --> 00:32:03,489 She wasn't like the same little quiet girl I remember. 740 00:32:03,530 --> 00:32:05,750 She was more talkative. So, I said, "What's happening?" 741 00:32:05,793 --> 00:32:07,583 I go, "Are you dating anybody, or...?" 742 00:32:07,621 --> 00:32:11,281 She goes, "Well, I'm kind of, like... seeing Lex." 743 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,980 And I go, "You're like seeing Lex?" 744 00:32:14,019 --> 00:32:15,669 I go, "Lex is married." 745 00:32:15,716 --> 00:32:18,586 And she goes, "I know; that's the problem." 746 00:32:18,632 --> 00:32:23,032 I go, "Liz, that's not good." 747 00:32:23,071 --> 00:32:25,861 Lex Luger was oftentimes considered, you know, 748 00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:27,990 the second coming of Hulk Hogan. 749 00:32:28,033 --> 00:32:32,473 Lex had a million-dollar body and he had a great look. 750 00:32:32,515 --> 00:32:35,945 Lex Luger is a, one of the top names ever 751 00:32:35,997 --> 00:32:37,827 in professional wrestling history. 752 00:32:37,868 --> 00:32:40,308 He's easy to hate because it's like, what's-- 753 00:32:40,349 --> 00:32:41,569 there's nothing wrong with him. 754 00:32:41,611 --> 00:32:45,881 She was... head over heels over him. 755 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,400 I could tell that. 756 00:32:47,443 --> 00:32:49,973 Paired together as part of a wrestling story line, 757 00:32:50,011 --> 00:32:52,751 Elizabeth and Lex Luger's professional relationship 758 00:32:52,796 --> 00:32:55,356 evolves into a secret love affair. 759 00:32:55,408 --> 00:32:56,888 They were a very happy couple. 760 00:32:56,931 --> 00:32:58,501 They'd go work out at the gym together. 761 00:32:58,541 --> 00:33:00,331 They would spend a lot of time together. 762 00:33:00,369 --> 00:33:02,019 They were being a little bit sneaky, 763 00:33:02,067 --> 00:33:04,287 but adjoining rooms and stuff, and... 764 00:33:04,330 --> 00:33:06,380 and I guess you can't help who you're attracted to and 765 00:33:06,419 --> 00:33:08,599 who you fall in love with, and I always liked Lex and 766 00:33:08,638 --> 00:33:09,938 I always liked Liz. And hey, 767 00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:12,988 if you guys make each other happy, go for it. 768 00:33:13,034 --> 00:33:16,214 So, when the ideas started bouncing around about 769 00:33:16,255 --> 00:33:18,335 blurring the lines, if you will, 770 00:33:18,387 --> 00:33:20,347 between scripted and reality 771 00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:23,089 with regard to Elizabeth's relationship with Randy 772 00:33:23,131 --> 00:33:24,961 and their marriage and their divorce... 773 00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:27,013 Randy, she's your ex-wife... 774 00:33:27,048 --> 00:33:30,268 at least you owe her this much, man. 775 00:33:30,312 --> 00:33:32,532 I was really shocked at first that Randy would 776 00:33:32,575 --> 00:33:34,575 entertain some of those ideas. 777 00:33:34,621 --> 00:33:38,711 I'm really lost and I need you, and I'm... 778 00:33:38,755 --> 00:33:40,755 I don't think I can reach you. 779 00:33:40,801 --> 00:33:43,411 He was still very protective of Elizabeth, 780 00:33:43,456 --> 00:33:45,236 but in a much different way. 781 00:33:45,284 --> 00:33:47,074 He watched Lex like a hawk. 782 00:33:47,112 --> 00:33:49,112 It wasn't just that they were in a relationship; 783 00:33:49,157 --> 00:33:51,547 Lex was married and he had kids. 784 00:33:51,594 --> 00:33:53,254 Everybody knows that that's gonna end badly 785 00:33:53,292 --> 00:33:54,732 one way or the other. 786 00:33:54,771 --> 00:33:56,081 "Where are you living? 787 00:33:56,121 --> 00:33:57,601 You have an apartment or whatever?" 788 00:33:57,644 --> 00:33:59,954 She's like, "No, he's... he's got another place he's got, 789 00:33:59,994 --> 00:34:02,004 he's keeping me in, but the weird thing is that it's in 790 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,300 the same complex of where he and his wife live." 791 00:34:04,346 --> 00:34:07,696 I go, "Oh..." I said, "This is not good!" 792 00:34:07,741 --> 00:34:13,621 It was pretty apparent also that they were both... 793 00:34:13,660 --> 00:34:15,840 They were pilled up. 794 00:34:15,879 --> 00:34:20,539 They were just spending too much time doing too many drugs. 795 00:34:20,580 --> 00:34:23,710 I've never witnessed her doing any kind of drugs or pills, 796 00:34:23,757 --> 00:34:26,277 and in fact, when we'd go out and drink, 797 00:34:26,325 --> 00:34:28,805 she'd have two glasses of wine and she'd be 798 00:34:28,849 --> 00:34:30,109 already like feeling it. 799 00:34:30,155 --> 00:34:32,065 I'm like, "Oh, it's time to go home," you know. 800 00:34:32,113 --> 00:34:35,423 Thing is, Liz doesn't weigh 270 like me and Lex. 801 00:34:35,464 --> 00:34:38,994 Liz, Liz weighs about 85 pounds, 802 00:34:39,033 --> 00:34:40,953 so she's taking... 803 00:34:40,991 --> 00:34:43,431 same amount of pills that a 300-pounder's taking. 804 00:34:43,472 --> 00:34:45,952 You know, they had some kind of a fight and 805 00:34:45,996 --> 00:34:47,776 she fell down the stairs, and 806 00:34:47,824 --> 00:34:50,004 she ended up with two black eyes. 807 00:34:50,044 --> 00:34:52,794 In April of 2003, squad cars respond to a 808 00:34:52,829 --> 00:34:55,309 domestic disturbance at the home of Lex Luger. 809 00:34:55,354 --> 00:34:57,364 Upon their arrival, the police notice 810 00:34:57,399 --> 00:34:59,139 Elizabeth has bruised eyes. 811 00:34:59,184 --> 00:35:01,404 At first she denies the injuries are from Luger, 812 00:35:01,447 --> 00:35:03,277 but she eventually admits to the authorities 813 00:35:03,318 --> 00:35:04,668 that he did hit her. 814 00:35:04,711 --> 00:35:05,931 Luger was charged with a misdemeanor account 815 00:35:05,973 --> 00:35:08,283 of battery and released on bail. 816 00:35:08,323 --> 00:35:12,243 I thought, falling down the stairs gave her two black eyes? 817 00:35:12,284 --> 00:35:14,504 Hm... 818 00:35:14,547 --> 00:35:15,807 Talk about the idea of 819 00:35:15,852 --> 00:35:17,812 getting Lex Luger on your podcast 820 00:35:17,854 --> 00:35:19,334 and talk about that process and what you 821 00:35:19,378 --> 00:35:20,808 wanted to talk to him about. 822 00:35:20,857 --> 00:35:24,247 When Nick, my producer and co-host, 823 00:35:24,296 --> 00:35:26,686 suggested it, you know, that we bring Lex on, 824 00:35:26,733 --> 00:35:30,433 you know, I was, I had mixed emotions because I, 825 00:35:30,476 --> 00:35:32,866 I still... 826 00:35:32,913 --> 00:35:36,003 honestly, Lex, I'm sorry, but I still had some resentment, 827 00:35:36,046 --> 00:35:39,746 even during the time we were making the call, 828 00:35:39,789 --> 00:35:41,969 but Lex rose to the occasion. 829 00:35:42,009 --> 00:35:44,579 He was, he was brutally honest. 830 00:35:44,620 --> 00:35:49,630 I, I'll never forget... 831 00:35:49,669 --> 00:35:52,409 The, ah-- It was actually early morning hours, 832 00:35:52,454 --> 00:35:55,374 we were having just an evening watching movies together 833 00:35:55,414 --> 00:35:57,894 and she came back and had been 834 00:35:57,938 --> 00:36:01,938 sipping on some vodka and popping pills and, 835 00:36:01,985 --> 00:36:05,595 literally, before the 9-1-1 call, 836 00:36:05,641 --> 00:36:07,861 I realized she'd stopped breathing. 837 00:36:07,904 --> 00:36:09,524 Okay, what I want you to do, 838 00:36:09,558 --> 00:36:12,078 I want you to go over and see if she's breathing. 839 00:36:12,126 --> 00:36:16,216 I can't tell. 840 00:36:16,261 --> 00:36:18,221 I understand that, sir. 841 00:36:18,263 --> 00:36:22,093 I have somebody on the way, but if she's not breathing, 842 00:36:22,136 --> 00:36:24,046 you need to help her breathe. 843 00:36:24,094 --> 00:36:26,534 You need to find out whether or not she's breathing. 844 00:36:26,575 --> 00:36:31,185 Go over to her... Sir. 845 00:36:31,232 --> 00:36:33,842 Lay down and check to see if she's breathing. 846 00:36:33,887 --> 00:36:36,367 Look at her chest, see if it's rising. 847 00:36:36,411 --> 00:36:39,411 It doesn't look like it is. I'm scared to death. 848 00:36:39,458 --> 00:36:42,368 Terry called me and he just said, you know, 849 00:36:42,417 --> 00:36:46,067 "Really, really bad news. Liz is dead." 850 00:36:46,116 --> 00:36:47,936 And, like, when he said that, 851 00:36:47,988 --> 00:36:51,338 I just felt like somebody poured a bucket of ice on me. 852 00:36:51,383 --> 00:36:54,263 Oh, I was at home in Atlanta. 853 00:36:54,299 --> 00:36:59,259 Heard it on the morning news. 854 00:36:59,304 --> 00:37:01,094 I was pissed. 855 00:37:01,131 --> 00:37:07,491 I was pissed because I saw Lex... 856 00:37:07,529 --> 00:37:10,919 manipulating and exploiting a vulnerable person, 857 00:37:10,967 --> 00:37:13,747 and using prescription drugs to do it. 858 00:37:13,796 --> 00:37:15,966 They told me that Elizabeth had just passed. 859 00:37:16,016 --> 00:37:18,276 I thought she was gonna make it and she was gonna go to 860 00:37:18,323 --> 00:37:20,413 the hospital, and then I heard that she didn't make it. 861 00:37:20,455 --> 00:37:24,415 Then, I was arrested on, I think, 17 felony counts, 862 00:37:24,459 --> 00:37:27,109 and all the drugs they found in my house. 863 00:37:27,157 --> 00:37:28,937 Thought I had the drugs under control, 864 00:37:28,985 --> 00:37:30,765 but I ended up having-- 865 00:37:30,813 --> 00:37:33,863 getting control of Elizabeth and I, 866 00:37:33,903 --> 00:37:37,733 and the tragedy of that, to witness that firsthand, 867 00:37:37,777 --> 00:37:40,477 it was a very dark time, without a doubt. 868 00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:42,089 I knew he was telling the truth. 869 00:37:42,129 --> 00:37:45,829 I knew he was being honest and accepting responsibility. 870 00:37:45,872 --> 00:37:48,882 I look at him so differently now. 871 00:37:48,918 --> 00:37:50,878 Ah... 872 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,840 I respect him, which I never thought I'd hear myself say. 873 00:37:54,881 --> 00:37:57,011 I want to ask you about Miss Elizabeth, 874 00:37:57,057 --> 00:37:59,147 you know, her loss and everything, that... 875 00:37:59,189 --> 00:38:02,189 earlier in your career, you guys 876 00:38:02,236 --> 00:38:03,846 helped each other out in your career. 877 00:38:03,890 --> 00:38:07,720 Yeah, we were actually married and we got a divorce, 878 00:38:07,763 --> 00:38:09,373 like, which happens in life sometimes, 879 00:38:09,417 --> 00:38:11,637 and we had separation, we had closure. 880 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,640 But, really feeling real bad for her and her family. 881 00:38:14,683 --> 00:38:17,903 And a situation where we hadn't seen each other in 882 00:38:17,947 --> 00:38:20,517 about maybe 5, 6 years, but, you know, 883 00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:23,169 we had closure and we said hello and everything was all good. 884 00:38:23,213 --> 00:38:25,173 But, feel bad for her family. 885 00:38:25,215 --> 00:38:28,515 Elizabeth tragically passed away at the age of 42, 886 00:38:28,567 --> 00:38:31,917 but grieving fans would have no idea that this epic saga 887 00:38:31,961 --> 00:38:40,141 was approaching its final chapter. 888 00:38:40,187 --> 00:38:42,617 This is my brother getting married for the 889 00:38:42,668 --> 00:38:46,498 second time to the lovely Lynn Payne-Poffo. 890 00:38:46,541 --> 00:38:49,591 In 2010, 7 years after Elizabeth's death, 891 00:38:49,631 --> 00:38:52,901 Randy Savage finds love once again. 892 00:38:52,939 --> 00:38:54,979 He, you know, weathered the storm through his divorce 893 00:38:55,028 --> 00:38:57,548 and he was finally kind of on his feet, 894 00:38:57,596 --> 00:39:00,426 he was remarried and, and... 895 00:39:00,468 --> 00:39:03,378 just starting to kind of really enjoy his life. 896 00:39:03,428 --> 00:39:05,518 When Randy retired from wrestling, he was 897 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,430 able to devote a lot of his time to the Special Olympics. 898 00:39:09,477 --> 00:39:12,257 That was his passion and he... 899 00:39:12,306 --> 00:39:16,476 enjoyed his final years as a sedentary person. 900 00:39:16,528 --> 00:39:18,488 I was supposed to go to San Jose, California. 901 00:39:18,530 --> 00:39:20,750 American Airlines stopped in Dallas. 902 00:39:20,793 --> 00:39:23,403 I turned on my phone and there was a message on there 903 00:39:23,448 --> 00:39:26,098 and it said, "This is Largo Medical. 904 00:39:26,146 --> 00:39:32,016 Your brother and his wife were in an automobile accident, 905 00:39:32,065 --> 00:39:34,415 and she's banged up and 906 00:39:34,459 --> 00:39:36,199 your brother's in critical condition," 907 00:39:36,243 --> 00:39:37,983 but the way they said it, I knew. 908 00:39:38,027 --> 00:39:40,377 I got a phone call early that morning from Lanny Poffo, 909 00:39:40,421 --> 00:39:41,731 "Jimmy." "Yeah, Lanny. 910 00:39:41,770 --> 00:39:43,600 I didn't have time to call ya 'cause it's early." 911 00:39:43,642 --> 00:39:45,082 He goes, "No, listen. I'm coming back home." 912 00:39:45,121 --> 00:39:46,381 "Why?" 913 00:39:46,427 --> 00:39:47,727 And I could tell his voice was really shaky. 914 00:39:47,776 --> 00:39:50,126 Goes, "What?" He goes, "I just got a phone call." 915 00:39:50,170 --> 00:39:52,170 He said, "My brother just got killed." 916 00:39:52,215 --> 00:39:54,035 We want to share some breaking news with you now 917 00:39:54,087 --> 00:39:56,517 regarding a Randy Macho Man Savage. 918 00:39:56,568 --> 00:39:59,658 You may know him well. He is a pro wrestler. 919 00:39:59,701 --> 00:40:03,361 We have just confirmed that Randy Macho Man Savage has 920 00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:05,971 died coming from the Florida Highway Patrol. 921 00:40:06,012 --> 00:40:07,582 There was a car accident. 922 00:40:07,622 --> 00:40:11,062 I was literally on my way to the airport to leave Clearwater 923 00:40:11,104 --> 00:40:14,244 when I got the phone call from Hulk, or, Terry. 924 00:40:14,281 --> 00:40:18,631 Crashed into a tree and died as a result of a heart attack. 925 00:40:18,677 --> 00:40:19,937 It was, it's hard to believe. 926 00:40:19,982 --> 00:40:21,682 Even now, sitting here doing this interview, 927 00:40:21,723 --> 00:40:23,073 it's hard to believe it's true 'cause he, 928 00:40:23,116 --> 00:40:24,326 he was so full of life. 929 00:40:24,378 --> 00:40:26,818 He was so full of energy, brother, 930 00:40:26,859 --> 00:40:32,169 it's hard to imagine that he's not here, really. 931 00:40:32,212 --> 00:40:36,702 We're going to the site where my brother lost control, 932 00:40:36,738 --> 00:40:37,738 and you're gonna see the tree. 933 00:40:37,783 --> 00:40:39,003 They still got a few flowers, 934 00:40:39,045 --> 00:40:41,915 although they've taken some of them down. 935 00:40:41,961 --> 00:40:44,351 It's been 7 years, you know. 936 00:40:54,364 --> 00:40:57,504 I judge people by the way, for example, 937 00:40:57,542 --> 00:41:01,282 Randy treated my kids. Oh, and that was it for me. 938 00:41:01,328 --> 00:41:03,898 If I start thinking about that too much I'll cry. 939 00:41:03,939 --> 00:41:06,639 He went out of his way to be really, 940 00:41:06,681 --> 00:41:10,731 really good to kids, and that's how I judge people. 941 00:41:10,772 --> 00:41:12,862 He loved Brooke and he loved kids. 942 00:41:12,905 --> 00:41:16,295 I'm sure he probably would have said yes at any time 943 00:41:16,343 --> 00:41:17,953 and loved to have kids with Liz. 944 00:41:17,997 --> 00:41:20,697 I think it's a shame Liz isn't in the Hall of Fame. 945 00:41:20,739 --> 00:41:23,219 I think that she was called the First Lady of Wrestling 946 00:41:23,263 --> 00:41:26,093 for a reason. She was the first 947 00:41:26,135 --> 00:41:30,525 significant female star who never wrestled. 948 00:41:30,575 --> 00:41:33,055 Because he had her at his side, 949 00:41:33,099 --> 00:41:36,929 made him even more special because she was so special. 950 00:41:36,972 --> 00:41:41,542 She was the first female that was depicted in a... 951 00:41:41,586 --> 00:41:43,326 in a powerful role. 952 00:41:43,370 --> 00:41:46,420 She was beautiful, quiet, but she was class. 953 00:41:46,460 --> 00:41:48,030 Elizabeth was class. 954 00:41:48,070 --> 00:41:51,990 Maybe a boy named Timmy would come up with his father 955 00:41:52,031 --> 00:41:55,951 and they say, "May I have your autograph, sir," 956 00:41:55,991 --> 00:42:00,211 and he'd, "Oh, yeah. Here's the deal, Timmy. 957 00:42:00,256 --> 00:42:01,866 I'm gonna sign your autograph, 958 00:42:01,910 --> 00:42:03,960 but you gotta do something for me." 959 00:42:03,999 --> 00:42:06,219 "Well, what's that?" 960 00:42:06,262 --> 00:42:08,922 "How ya doin' in school, Timmy? 961 00:42:08,961 --> 00:42:10,921 How you doing in school? Are you doing your best? 962 00:42:10,963 --> 00:42:13,533 'Cause Timmy, I'm gonna sign your autograph, 963 00:42:13,574 --> 00:42:15,324 but if you don't do well in school, 964 00:42:15,358 --> 00:42:18,708 if you don't do your best every single day, 965 00:42:18,753 --> 00:42:21,973 it's gonna be real, real bad for you." 966 00:42:22,017 --> 00:42:23,577 Randy and Elizabeth were greater than 967 00:42:23,628 --> 00:42:25,188 the sum of their parts. 968 00:42:25,238 --> 00:42:28,018 They were undoubtedly key to each other's legacy. 969 00:42:28,067 --> 00:42:30,717 Fans had never before experienced a more emotional 970 00:42:30,765 --> 00:42:34,155 and relatable story line on the complexity of love. 971 00:42:34,203 --> 00:42:36,423 Together they transcended television, 972 00:42:36,466 --> 00:42:38,946 and, well... wrestling, too. 973 00:42:38,991 --> 00:42:42,041 Even after the divorce, they still had a tremendous 974 00:42:42,081 --> 00:42:44,131 amount of love and respect for each other. 975 00:42:44,170 --> 00:42:47,130 They were true, true celebrities and icons. 976 00:42:47,173 --> 00:42:48,913 There's not one person on the whole planet earth that 977 00:42:48,957 --> 00:42:50,177 doesn't know who they were. 978 00:42:50,219 --> 00:42:51,609 From a wrestler's point of view, 979 00:42:51,656 --> 00:42:53,826 she's one of the greatest performers ever, you know. 980 00:42:53,875 --> 00:42:56,915 While both passed too soon, they left their legions of fans 981 00:42:56,965 --> 00:42:59,395 with an epic love story that will last 982 00:42:59,446 --> 00:43:01,666 long after they're gone. 983 00:43:01,709 --> 00:43:05,229 To me, Randy Savage is on the Mount Rushmore of wrestling. 984 00:43:05,278 --> 00:43:07,408 Could perform, could do an interview, 985 00:43:07,454 --> 00:43:08,674 had the right look. 986 00:43:08,716 --> 00:43:10,016 He was the Macho Man. 987 00:43:10,065 --> 00:43:12,495 He was an innovator, he was a creator, 988 00:43:12,546 --> 00:43:16,376 and he, he made the business better, 989 00:43:16,419 --> 00:43:17,859 in my opinion. 990 00:43:17,899 --> 00:43:19,989 I would call Randy Savage one of the all-time greatest, 991 00:43:20,032 --> 00:43:21,342 without a doubt. 992 00:43:21,381 --> 00:43:24,341 And the real human being, Randy Poffo, 993 00:43:24,384 --> 00:43:27,564 was really a very good man, and a loving man. 994 00:43:27,605 --> 00:43:29,685 It was a lot of art imitating life. 995 00:43:29,737 --> 00:43:31,217 You know, sometimes in the world, 996 00:43:31,260 --> 00:43:33,650 what really happens, it's not really planned. 997 00:43:33,698 --> 00:43:35,608 After you roll with it, then all of a sudden, 998 00:43:35,656 --> 00:43:37,566 you really turn into that character and turn into that 999 00:43:37,615 --> 00:43:39,695 dilemma that takes place. 1000 00:43:39,747 --> 00:43:42,357 I think people will always want to think of her as 1001 00:43:42,402 --> 00:43:45,492 Miss Elizabeth, the one that'd been with Randy. 1002 00:43:45,535 --> 00:43:47,925 You don't want to remember her being with somebody else. 1003 00:43:47,973 --> 00:43:49,633 It just doesn't seem right. 1004 00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:51,320 I mean, that's what we were fed. 1005 00:43:51,367 --> 00:43:52,977 You know, that's what we believed.