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If you were to try
to package intensity,
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and electricity,
and just
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pure explosiveness
into one package,
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that would have been
the Macho Man, Randy Savage.
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Oh my God.
Macho Man.
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It's a stick of dynamite
that is lit and
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the fuse has gotten very short.
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100 percenter, man. He's
gonna come at you with 100%.
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The Macho Man Randy Savage.
He was loud.
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The cream of the crop!
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He was colorful.
He was intense.
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Oh, yeah!
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Miss Elizabeth...
was... not.
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Elizabeth was an icon and a
role model for so many women.
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Her character was something that
brought a lot of feeling and
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emotion to the matches.
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Elizabeth, I love you!
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Randy "Macho Man" Savage
and Miss Elizabeth were
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wrestling royalty, and
their roller coaster romance
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captivated audiences
around the world.
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It's Bonnie and Clyde,
it's Romeo and Juliet.
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They were the first, you know,
male-female package
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that was created in
that new WWF model.
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They were the first
and they were the best.
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Dysfunctional, as it may
have been in some respects,
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but I saw it...
It's a love story.
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On this episode,
art imitates life
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as we examine a fictional
love story surrounding
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a real-life marriage that
explodes beyond the ring
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with tragic consequences.
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♪
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- I don't want to do that.
- PRODUCER: Okay.
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Look at how ripped I was.
Look at that belly.
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Good God. I was in fighting
shape right there.
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My name is Bruce Prichard
and I have actually worked
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in the wrestling business
for about 45 years.
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First time I met
Randy Savage was in 1987,
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in Houston, Texas.
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Randy got into the
wrestling business,
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he was a
second-generation wrestler.
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His father, Angelo Poffo,
was one of the greats.
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And, Angelo had
a wrestling territory
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and it was considered,
back in the day,
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an "outlaw"
wrestling territory.
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Can't do nothing against
the Macho Man, yeah.
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♪1 professional wrestler!
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Complete mental insanity, yeah!
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You're a champion, Randy.
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You'll go down in
history as the greatest.
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The greatest--
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I broke this chair
by sitting down!
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Then, all of a sudden, it's time
for Randy Savage to appear.
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Jimmy, baby, the best thing
that you can do is probably just
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stand back and let the
Macho Man talk 'cause there's
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nothing that you could say that
I couldn't say better myself.
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There was a period in the
wrestling business where,
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if you were crazy onscreen,
you were crazy off-screen.
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You had to live
your gimmick.
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And Randy played
crazy really well.
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He lived it 24/7.
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♪
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Just, personally, do you
think it'd be okay if
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I came out that Randy
was a bed-wetter?
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PRODUCER:
[laughs] Ah...
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What was it like growing up
with Randy as a brother?
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He's the same as
any other alpha male,
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except his dial is
not only past 10,
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but it's broken and
it's gone off the hinges.
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I was upstaged every day,
but I knew it was getting over,
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so I was proud
to be holding the rope.
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He had a dream that
he could be a villain,
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a bad guy, a ruffian.
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He wanted to be an antagonist
'cause he felt he had more
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creativity than just being
the pawn of the villain.
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Randy would take
a lot of risks.
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He would say,
[gruff voice]
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"You gotta stare into a
candle for two hours."
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Staring at the candle
for about two hours
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and get my head together.
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Some people loved him,
some people hated him.
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But everybody respected him
because when you see that
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kind of athleticism,
you have to buy into it.
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♪
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So, this is my
autograph table.
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Okay, this was another
night where, like,
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I think everybody was
drinking too much red wine.
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And, right here is
that little saying,
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never know what
he meant by it, but...
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that's what Macho carved
into the table and
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he used to say, [gruff voice]
"Whatever it takes!"
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I'm Linda Bollea.
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Married to my ex-husband,
professional wrestler,
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Hulk Hogan, for 25 years.
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Oh, that was back when
we loved each other.
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[laughs]
In the olden days.
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So, once I met
Miss Elizabeth,
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we ended up being friends
because I was really the
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only other female on the road.
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Elizabeth was from
Frankfort, Kentucky.
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Good upbringing.
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She addressed her
mom as, "Mother".
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And she said, "We were broke.
My dad left early.
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It was just me, and my mom,
and my brother,
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and money was
always really tight."
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There was a gym called
Sin The Sport Center,
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and Randy worked out there.
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And then, one fine day,
a new girl came,
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and that was
Elizabeth Hulette.
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And she said Randy was in
the gym about 6 in the morning
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and she's working
the front desk,
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and he comes in
and she goes,
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"Oh, my,
your eyes are so red."
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And he goes, "You should
see 'em from this side."
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And I said-- I looked
at Liz and said,
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"That did it for ya? That one
line, like, reeled you in?"
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My name is
Scott Oliver Hall.
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I also was wrestling as
Razor Ramone, the bad guy.
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I don't know;
if I was a chick,
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I'd 'a banged Randy.
I thought he was cool as hell.
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Randy would always
tell the story that
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it was love at first sight.
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[gruff voice] "Yeah, she
saw me and fell in love.
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What more she could want?"
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Liz would always
be like, "Yeah...
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it took a little
while to get used to it."
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[laughs]
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She was beautiful,
she was phenomenal,
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and she was excellent.
What a nice person, too.
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And I think that came
across on television.
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Elizabeth got involved
in ICW as an announcer,
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and she also helped
with the editing.
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Because it was a
mom and pop shop,
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we did everything.
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And, she was
adaptable and brilliant,
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and very quick to learn.
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Their first wedding was
in Frankfort, Kentucky
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at the home
of Elizabeth's mother,
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and that was about
6 months before
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Randy made his debut with WWE.
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Alright, this is gonna
be a Jimmy Hart one.
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Here we go.
Hey, it's me!
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The Mouth of the South,
Jimmy Hart.
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The sun is shining.
Life is great!
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There's Randy, and myself,
and Hulk in WCW
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when I managed them for
a few matches.
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The rest was history.
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He goes, "How's New York?"
I said, "It's great."
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I said, "Look, they
just saw your tapes.
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They want you in New York."
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The Macho Man, Randy Savage,
who is quite the competitor,
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making his World
Wrestling Federation debut.
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Vince and Linda McMahon had
come down to Florida to
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get the contract signed
before WrestleMania 1.
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Is that Vince?
Oh my gosh. Whoa.
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When Vince took over,
he went around every territory
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and took the very best
of what was available.
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He made you
bigger than life.
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Vince was taking it to a
whole completely new level
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that none of us were ready
for or even knew about,
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or used to, and we were all in
for a big huge learning curve.
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You know, when Macho
came onboard, Vince was like,
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"Well, you know, we really want
your character to have
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a valet, a woman, a manager."
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I think Randy probably
just sat down and said,
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"Look, you know, I want to
come up here and I think
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I can make you money
in this territory.
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Can we work a spot out for
Liz because she's gonna
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go with me on the road.
She's gonna be with me."
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Randy, if he loved somebody,
whether it was his brother
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or whether it was
Liz or whoever,
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he was gonna be
very loyal to them.
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Macho Man is at
his peak right now,
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and we gotta know who
the manager is gonna be.
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They fell in love with her as
soon as she opened up the door
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and stepped
into wrestling history.
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RANDY:
...here she comes.
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ANNOUNCERS:
Oh... Oh... [laughs] Oh my.
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Liz was very demure,
very quiet, gentle soul.
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The person and the character
were really one and the same.
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As far as the persona of the
Macho Man and the
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package of the Macho Man
and Miss Elizabeth,
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was they were two opposites.
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And Randy, so intense, and
Elizabeth, so subdued.
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They wanted you to love
Elizabeth and hate Randy.
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Picture of Elizabeth.
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No picture of the
Macho Man Randy Savage.
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That's very, very,
very bad, Elizabeth.
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Randy would bring her out.
She'd stand at ringside.
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He'd get in the ring,
he'd circle around,
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and then he'd get out,
"No, I told you to stand here!"
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The people were hating Randy
just for brow beating
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the beautiful young girl.
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Like, "You can do
better than him, honey!
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Get away from him."
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And there would be
times Randy would
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give Liz a look and just...
[inhales]
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Turn his head and
give her those eyes,
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and she would
almost be subservient.
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Macho Man Randy Savage,
isn't that right, Liz?
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- Right, Randy.
- Shut up and keep polishing.
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If I lose tonight,
it's your fault!
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Each time he did, they just,
"Oh, you sorry son-of-a,"
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you know, and that's
exactly what they wanted.
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And you want Liz
to see the light.
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But Liz, underneath this,
you're seeing, man,
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she loves her man.
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And you infer that
Randy mistreats her,
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but he never really does.
He's just a little intense.
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By the spring of 1987,
Elizabeth and Randy are
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red hot and are about to
make history in front of
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a record-breaking
crowd of 93,000 fan's.
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WrestleMania 3 was,
at the time,
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the largest indoor
attendance record.
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I mean, the largest
gathering indoor of
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any event in the world.
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Oh, Jesus.
It was unbelievable, man.
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90,000 people.
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I had Alice Cooper with me.
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I mean, the electricity from
the crowd was just unbelievable.
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I mean, your skin is
crawling and it feels like
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your hair is growing.
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The Randy Savage-
Ricky Steamboat match,
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WrestleMania 3, I think a
lot of people consider
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one of the greatest
matches of all time.
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Two of the greatest athletes
that I have ever seen
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in my life.
All that athleticism,
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all the drama,
all that excitement...
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It killed him that he could
never surpass that match.
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He was a perfectionist,
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and perfectionists
are never happy.
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The thing with Savage
I learned later on, of course,
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when I started working
with Savage was...
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trying to hold him down.
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Because, he always
wanted to give more.
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Well, sometimes you
can give too much.
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Two years after their debut,
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Randy and Elizabeth are
taking the WWF by storm,
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but a surprising twist in
their story line would
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propel them to the top of
the wrestling world.
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I pulled out a bunch
of pictures and tried to find,
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that had
Liz and Randy.
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This is sweet.
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There's Randy and Liz.
This was just at the condo.
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We were just
hanging out in Florida.
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Polaroid picture, Macho.
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A picture of Elizabeth,
so sweet.
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So, Macho Man,
he always kept Elizabeth
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in the dressing room, so
nobody really knew her.
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Then one night, Macho came
into our dressing room and said,
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[gruff voice]
"Where's Linda?"
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And, ah, "Liz needs
some help with her hair."
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[laughs] And she had her
hair kind of like coiffed
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and tightly curled, and
it was just sort of church girl,
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and I said, "Bitch, you need
to just bring that stuff out,"
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you know, and so,
I started like
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getting her hair teased up
and kind of stacked it out.
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She's like,
"Oh yeah, I like that."
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Once we all realized that,
hey, I live in Tampa.
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"Oh, you live in Tampa?"
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"Yeah, I live in Clearwater.
I live in Largo...
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You know, we all kind of lived
in this area so we thought,
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hey, let's all get together,
you know.
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It was nice because when
we did get a few days off,
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I could call on her and
she could call on me,
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and we could either go shopping,
or we could hit the beach.
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And, it was just great
'cause at least you had
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somebody to do
something with.
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Hulk would have big parties
over there and invite everybody,
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you know, and Randy
and Liz would go to it.
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And it seems like that's when
she was the most happiest,
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when she could be out around the
people and kind of be herself.
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You know, we'd be out
barbequing in the backyard
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the weekend before.
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Terry would always
kind of like lay it out,
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"Here's how I want to run it,"
and then Randy'd
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throw in some ideas,
you know.
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And Liz would always just
go along with whatever,
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talking about the "angle".
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The hotter the heel,
and people after a while
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will begin to respect you.
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And, Randy was so good,
he was hard to boo.
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The audience liked him
and it was hard to ignore.
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Randy Savage was really
catching on as a babyface
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and people had,
had grown to...
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really love the Macho Man.
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By the end of 1987,
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the fans'love for
Randy Savage inspires
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a revelation in
Vince McMahon,
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a partnership with the
company's top hero to create
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a team unlike anything pro
wrestling has ever seen.
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The two biggest names in the
wrestling business at that time
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are gonna combine forces,
you know,
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the madness in Hulkamania
combining forces with brother.
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With the madness
and the mania...
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- They got powers.
- Yeah!
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I mean, who's gonna
match up against them?
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By the summer of 1988,
Hogan and Savage,
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with Elizabeth as their manager,
appear invincible.
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They've destroyed all
challengers and the
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only place left to turn
is on each other.
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What we knew is that we would
have the Mega Powers explode.
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You create the Mega Powers
for the Mega Powers to explode,
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especially when one
is a paranoid schizophrenic,
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and the other is the
all-American dude.
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And what is the easiest thing
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for two men to argue about?
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A woman.
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Summer Slam '88.
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Randy hoists Liz up on his
shoulder and goes around,
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and when he does,
there's like a little slip,
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Hulk puts his hand
up to steady her.
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[gruff voice]
"Freeze it!
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Look at how long his
hand is on Elizabeth, huh!
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Nobody touches
Elizabeth, un-uh."
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There was Hulk, "Say your
prayers, take your vitamins,"
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you know, "Here's the
American flag."
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And here's Randy going,
"You know, I don't think
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you're as truthful as everybody
thinks you really are."
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They don't realize
that underneath,
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he's been boiling.
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You got lust in your eyes
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and in your black heart,
for Elizabeth!
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Randy is the jealous raving
lunatic and Hulk is the
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best friend who's trying to
screw his best friend's girl.
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Picked her up and put
Elizabeth where she has
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never been before, on top
of another man's shoulders!
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It's easy for him to blow
it out of proportion because
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you can tell the
jealousy side of it.
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He's blinded by love
and he's blinded by rage.
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He's paranoid.
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He's got the championship;
he's got the whole world
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on his back, so of course
everybody's trying to
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knock him off,
even his best friend.
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His best friend's not only
trying to knock 'em off,
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he's trying to take my girl.
336
00:14:37,746 --> 00:14:39,656
That really played
off Randy's paranoia,
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and it was real, so that's
what really made it work.
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The Twin Towers -
Big Boss Man and Akeem -
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against, you know,
Randy and Hulk, the Mega Powers.
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00:14:47,974 --> 00:14:50,114
But there was a point in
the match where Randy took
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a bump out and ended up
taking Liz out.
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Hulk sees that she's hurt,
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carries her back
to get her help.
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"You're hovering over her,
over the bed.
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How dare you!
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I'm out there
fighting for my life,
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00:15:05,992 --> 00:15:07,692
but you're more
concerned about her.
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00:15:07,732 --> 00:15:09,652
It all makes sense now!"
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00:15:09,691 --> 00:15:12,781
When you take a look at
the madness' eyes,
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all you're gonna see is
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00:15:15,436 --> 00:15:21,616
complete and utter rage!
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Match made.
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What corner is
Elizabeth gonna be in?
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Well, a lot of
people wondered,
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00:15:28,057 --> 00:15:30,487
did Randy really control
her in and out of the ring;
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absolutely.
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00:15:32,018 --> 00:15:33,318
Randy...
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Very protective of her, man.
God, you have no idea.
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00:15:37,458 --> 00:15:41,638
I mean, he would get visibly
upset with anybody that
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tried to talk to her or carry
on a conversation with her.
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He just did not like it.
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00:15:47,598 --> 00:15:50,558
When they would be
getting ready for an event,
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we didn't want any
malfunctions with her wardrobe,
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so he would
literally take the tape...
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and like wrap it all
around her whole body.
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And then, the other big
thing was because she was
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00:16:02,048 --> 00:16:04,748
always in a short dress was,
getting into the ring and
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00:16:04,789 --> 00:16:06,359
entering the ring
over the rope,
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00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,180
and was she gonna go
over the second rope?
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00:16:08,228 --> 00:16:09,528
She should go under it.
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00:16:09,577 --> 00:16:11,577
This was all a big huge thing
for Randy because
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this was his wife.
He loved and respected her,
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and he didn't want anybody
to be making fun of her.
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00:16:16,976 --> 00:16:19,496
He was definitely in charge
of that relationship and
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she was just the tag along.
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00:16:21,458 --> 00:16:24,678
And, I think that that
started to grow on her.
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00:16:24,722 --> 00:16:26,862
I think that started
to just unnerve her.
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00:16:26,898 --> 00:16:30,688
That may have been where a
lot of the issues started.
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00:16:30,728 --> 00:16:32,638
In WrestleMania 5,
are you gonna be in
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the Macho Man
Randy Savage's corner?
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00:16:35,864 --> 00:16:39,134
When you take real life
situations and you put it
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00:16:39,172 --> 00:16:42,042
in front of the camera,
it's great because
383
00:16:42,088 --> 00:16:43,608
it's usually very relatable.
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00:16:43,654 --> 00:16:45,444
- No, no.
- [cheering]
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00:16:45,482 --> 00:16:49,402
However, when you take your
real life feelings and you
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00:16:49,443 --> 00:16:53,583
put them on camera, and you
make it a part of a story line,
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00:16:53,621 --> 00:16:55,491
'cause they
don't know you...
388
00:16:55,536 --> 00:17:00,056
they don't know what you guys
do when the doors shut at night.
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00:17:00,106 --> 00:17:01,626
They have no clue.
390
00:17:01,672 --> 00:17:03,982
But, they know you're really
married and they know
391
00:17:04,023 --> 00:17:07,373
what you said on TV,
you sorry son of a bitch.
392
00:17:07,417 --> 00:17:10,117
Life imitating art...
393
00:17:10,159 --> 00:17:13,419
And sometimes
art imitates life.
394
00:17:13,467 --> 00:17:20,257
And then you get
really fucked up.
395
00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:23,390
Being on the road 24/7
with your spouse,
396
00:17:23,433 --> 00:17:25,263
it's not an easy task.
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00:17:25,305 --> 00:17:28,085
You know, Elizabeth,
as his wife,
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00:17:28,134 --> 00:17:30,924
had those same
duties as I did.
399
00:17:30,962 --> 00:17:33,182
I did travel with
Randy and Liz a lot,
400
00:17:33,226 --> 00:17:38,316
and their relationship was that
of a married couple on the road.
401
00:17:38,361 --> 00:17:39,581
They didn't go
out and party.
402
00:17:39,623 --> 00:17:41,023
They went back to the
room and went to bed,
403
00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:42,890
and they had their privacy.
404
00:17:42,931 --> 00:17:45,241
You'd get back to the room,
and she would have to
405
00:17:45,281 --> 00:17:48,721
scrub the blood off the boots
like I did to Terry's,
406
00:17:48,763 --> 00:17:50,293
from their wrestling match.
407
00:17:50,330 --> 00:17:51,810
You know, you'd put the
wrestling boots in the
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00:17:51,853 --> 00:17:54,123
bath tub of the hotel
and wash them off,
409
00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,680
get all the blood off 'cause
they had to wear 'em the
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00:17:55,726 --> 00:17:58,686
next night, and I'm sure he
probably wanted to get laid
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00:17:58,729 --> 00:18:00,249
and I'm sure she
probably didn't,
412
00:18:00,296 --> 00:18:02,686
you know, and maybe
she did and he didn't.
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00:18:02,733 --> 00:18:06,393
Then, her, unlike me,
she has to think about herself.
414
00:18:06,433 --> 00:18:08,393
What the hell dress
is she gonna wear?
415
00:18:08,435 --> 00:18:10,385
I had my wife
involved for a while, man.
416
00:18:10,437 --> 00:18:12,957
It's brutal, man, having
your wife around the guys.
417
00:18:13,004 --> 00:18:15,144
They did practical
jokes that were cruel.
418
00:18:15,181 --> 00:18:19,921
I'm telling ya, they used
people's suitcases as toilets.
419
00:18:19,968 --> 00:18:22,138
There were no boundaries;
that was the problem.
420
00:18:22,188 --> 00:18:24,018
I mean, you know,
cutting somebody's hair off
421
00:18:24,059 --> 00:18:26,019
while they're passed out,
or, I mean,
422
00:18:26,061 --> 00:18:28,021
I wouldn't want my
wife around that shit.
423
00:18:28,063 --> 00:18:30,153
The pattern seemed to be
that Randy wanted to keep
424
00:18:30,196 --> 00:18:34,546
Elizabeth away from "the boys"
as much as possible.
425
00:18:34,591 --> 00:18:36,121
And... you know,
there's...
426
00:18:36,158 --> 00:18:37,728
I don't blame him, really.
427
00:18:37,768 --> 00:18:41,078
Randy being so intense and
being so watchful over her,
428
00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:43,470
she couldn't have freedom.
429
00:18:43,513 --> 00:18:45,393
And I think, I think you
can't smother somebody
430
00:18:45,428 --> 00:18:47,128
all the time like that.
431
00:18:47,169 --> 00:18:49,949
Elizabeth wanted to
leave the road and
432
00:18:49,998 --> 00:18:51,698
she wanted Randy to quit.
433
00:18:51,739 --> 00:18:54,569
Randy wasn't done yet.
Randy was still enjoying it.
434
00:18:54,611 --> 00:18:57,351
I knew she needed to have
more socialization and,
435
00:18:57,397 --> 00:19:01,747
and more friends, and she missed
having the normal life, but...
436
00:19:01,792 --> 00:19:04,752
Liz, apparently, was looking
for something more than that,
437
00:19:04,795 --> 00:19:07,055
than I realized
at the time.
438
00:19:07,102 --> 00:19:09,502
By 1990, an exhausted
Elizabeth asked for
439
00:19:09,539 --> 00:19:10,929
some time off the road,
440
00:19:10,975 --> 00:19:13,195
and the WWF seized this
as an opportunity
441
00:19:13,239 --> 00:19:16,939
to reinvent the Macho Man
into a new kind of villain.
442
00:19:16,981 --> 00:19:18,681
We did Randy as the heel.
443
00:19:18,722 --> 00:19:20,202
We made Randy
the Macho King,
444
00:19:20,246 --> 00:19:22,766
and thought that
Sensational Sherri
445
00:19:22,813 --> 00:19:25,163
to be his manager,
another female and
446
00:19:25,207 --> 00:19:26,507
make her the queen.
447
00:19:26,556 --> 00:19:28,206
Sherri was a
women's wrestler,
448
00:19:28,254 --> 00:19:30,174
and the guys loved working
with Sherri because
449
00:19:30,212 --> 00:19:32,352
she could take it,
she was tough as nails.
450
00:19:32,388 --> 00:19:34,558
Queen Sherri adds a whole
new dimension to the
451
00:19:34,608 --> 00:19:37,348
Macho Man's character,
but the fans demand to see
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00:19:37,393 --> 00:19:40,703
wrestling's First Lady
back in her rightful place.
453
00:19:40,744 --> 00:19:44,444
Every day that Randy spent
with Sherri, everybody said,
454
00:19:44,487 --> 00:19:46,317
"Let's bring-- Where's
Elizabeth? Where's Elizabeth?"
455
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,189
I mean, the people
hungered for Elizabeth.
456
00:19:49,231 --> 00:19:51,451
Going into WrestleMania,
Randy was looking to
457
00:19:51,494 --> 00:19:52,894
take the summer off.
458
00:19:52,930 --> 00:19:55,460
He and Liz were looking
to spend time together as
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00:19:55,498 --> 00:19:59,498
husband and wife, not being
on the road all the time.
460
00:19:59,546 --> 00:20:02,236
So the idea was,
at WrestleMania 7,
461
00:20:02,288 --> 00:20:05,378
have a, a career match
with the Ultimate Warrior.
462
00:20:05,421 --> 00:20:07,031
If Warrior lost,
he was gone.
463
00:20:07,075 --> 00:20:08,555
If Randy lost, he was gone.
464
00:20:08,598 --> 00:20:10,948
We'd shown,
earlier in the night,
465
00:20:10,992 --> 00:20:14,912
that in attendance that night
was Elizabeth in the crowd,
466
00:20:14,952 --> 00:20:16,912
sitting like in the 4th row.
467
00:20:16,954 --> 00:20:20,354
And, when Sherri started to
kick Randy and go after Randy,
468
00:20:20,393 --> 00:20:23,793
Liz made her way to the ring
and pulled Sherri off,
469
00:20:23,831 --> 00:20:26,051
and you know, Liz is
there fighting for her man,
470
00:20:26,094 --> 00:20:29,534
and people were...
are slowly applauding,
471
00:20:29,576 --> 00:20:33,536
and you see grown men
with tears in their eyes...
472
00:20:33,580 --> 00:20:35,280
That's emotional.
That's good stuff.
473
00:20:35,321 --> 00:20:37,501
We got 'em...
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00:20:37,540 --> 00:20:39,020
because it, it was...
475
00:20:39,063 --> 00:20:40,983
they felt it, you know,
and people could feel that, too,
476
00:20:41,022 --> 00:20:43,152
you know,
the getting back together,
477
00:20:43,198 --> 00:20:45,198
getting back to the
one you really love.
478
00:20:45,244 --> 00:20:48,684
Elizabeth...
479
00:20:48,725 --> 00:20:50,985
Will you marry me?
480
00:20:51,032 --> 00:20:54,082
Despite being married in
real life for 7 years,
481
00:20:54,122 --> 00:20:55,862
which was kept
secret from fans,
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00:20:55,906 --> 00:20:58,166
Randy and Elizabeth's
characters finally tied the knot
483
00:20:58,213 --> 00:21:02,133
on live television on
August the 26th, 1991.
484
00:21:02,173 --> 00:21:04,183
Oh, yeah.
485
00:21:04,219 --> 00:21:05,789
[cheering]
486
00:21:05,829 --> 00:21:07,269
And they were excited.
I mean, they,
487
00:21:07,309 --> 00:21:10,619
they were like two kids
planning for their wedding.
488
00:21:10,660 --> 00:21:12,400
I think it was just the
first time you ever saw the
489
00:21:12,445 --> 00:21:14,705
Macho Man break down
and have a human emotion,
490
00:21:14,751 --> 00:21:16,281
other than anger.
491
00:21:16,318 --> 00:21:19,708
You saw him actually happy,
and you saw him emotionally
492
00:21:19,756 --> 00:21:24,406
care for someone outwardly,
which you had never seen before.
493
00:21:24,457 --> 00:21:29,377
Liz and Randy are having this
beautiful wedding ceremony...
494
00:21:29,418 --> 00:21:31,028
Now cue the devil.
495
00:21:31,072 --> 00:21:33,162
♪
496
00:21:33,204 --> 00:21:35,254
And, at the
reception bullshit...
497
00:21:35,294 --> 00:21:36,604
[screams]
498
00:21:36,643 --> 00:21:38,563
Putting the snake in
the box and all that crap,
499
00:21:38,601 --> 00:21:40,391
and that got it started,
that kicked it off.
500
00:21:40,429 --> 00:21:42,999
14, 15-foot king cobra.
501
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,220
Look at that son of a bitch.
502
00:21:45,260 --> 00:21:48,610
Beautiful, beautiful
fucking animal.
503
00:21:48,655 --> 00:21:52,395
Randy came to me and said,
[gruff voice] "So, tonight,
504
00:21:52,441 --> 00:21:56,321
I hear we're gonna do something
a little different, hm?"
505
00:21:56,358 --> 00:21:58,058
I'm like, "Yeah, man.
A snake's biting ya."
506
00:21:58,099 --> 00:22:04,499
And he's like, "Yeah, so...
Has the snake been fixed?"
507
00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:05,980
"Fuck, yeah!
508
00:22:06,020 --> 00:22:08,630
It's a fucking cobra,
you dumb shit!
509
00:22:08,675 --> 00:22:10,365
Of course it's been fixed!"
510
00:22:10,416 --> 00:22:13,326
"Maybe it has and
maybe it hasn't.
511
00:22:13,375 --> 00:22:16,545
How about the snake
biting you first?"
512
00:22:16,596 --> 00:22:18,376
"Fuck you, man.
I ain't fucking let--"
513
00:22:18,424 --> 00:22:21,434
"Oh, oh, you don't
want it to bite you.
514
00:22:21,470 --> 00:22:23,210
'Cause if you won't
let the snake bite you,
515
00:22:23,254 --> 00:22:25,784
that tells me it
hasn't been fixed."
516
00:22:25,822 --> 00:22:28,522
And he was dead
fucking serious, man, so...
517
00:22:28,564 --> 00:22:31,094
I went and got the snake,
and rolled up my pants leg
518
00:22:31,132 --> 00:22:32,792
and let it bite me.
519
00:22:32,829 --> 00:22:35,789
And, he's like, "Don't move.
Don't take no pills.
520
00:22:35,832 --> 00:22:38,922
Don't take no antidote,
don't take no serums,
521
00:22:38,966 --> 00:22:40,786
no fucking nothing,
brother."
522
00:22:40,837 --> 00:22:43,927
Fuck! For like 20 minutes,
man, he's like,
523
00:22:43,971 --> 00:22:47,321
"I guess you're okay.
How do you feel, man?"
524
00:22:47,366 --> 00:22:50,056
"Pissed off right now,
to be honest with you."
525
00:22:50,107 --> 00:22:51,717
So when it was time for
that snake to bite him,
526
00:22:51,761 --> 00:22:54,111
I got the snake out and
turned my back to him,
527
00:22:54,155 --> 00:22:56,935
and I fucking paint-brushed
the shit out of that snake,
528
00:22:56,984 --> 00:22:59,554
pissed it off.
And then,
529
00:22:59,595 --> 00:23:02,595
whenever I turned around
that snake was just, "Agh!"
530
00:23:02,642 --> 00:23:05,042
You know, he was ready.
531
00:23:05,079 --> 00:23:07,859
And I got him close to Randy
and he latched to him and
532
00:23:07,908 --> 00:23:10,298
would not let go.
533
00:23:10,345 --> 00:23:13,605
I mean, the time that you
see it on television was
534
00:23:13,653 --> 00:23:17,133
nothing to the real time.
It went on forever.
535
00:23:17,178 --> 00:23:19,568
Vince wound up
sending Elizabeth down,
536
00:23:19,615 --> 00:23:22,265
"Get the snake off of him.
Get it off of him!
537
00:23:22,313 --> 00:23:24,623
Vince said now!"
I'm like, "I'm fucking trying."
538
00:23:24,664 --> 00:23:27,804
And I'm pulling on the snake
and it wouldn't let go.
539
00:23:27,841 --> 00:23:30,761
It's just chewing on him.
And it's like anything else.
540
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,110
First time it's
ever been done,
541
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:35,199
it shocks people, man.
The, the visual, you know.
542
00:23:35,239 --> 00:23:38,029
Bottom line is nobody
ever felt sorry for Randy.
543
00:23:38,068 --> 00:23:39,848
They felt sorry for her.
544
00:23:39,896 --> 00:23:42,326
And it's not a
good situation.
545
00:23:42,377 --> 00:23:44,807
Like with me, whenever
I slapped Elizabeth,
546
00:23:44,858 --> 00:23:49,818
and then they tried to go
home to see her family,
547
00:23:49,863 --> 00:23:52,133
Grandpa meets him
on the porch and says,
548
00:23:52,169 --> 00:23:54,429
"You're not coming
in this house, boy.
549
00:23:54,476 --> 00:23:57,476
You promised us you'd always
protect our little girl."
550
00:23:57,523 --> 00:24:01,093
The only way he could gain
access back into their home
551
00:24:01,135 --> 00:24:04,615
was basically kicking
my ass and getting even,
552
00:24:04,660 --> 00:24:06,140
so to speak.
553
00:24:06,183 --> 00:24:09,753
You know, these are Tennessee
folks, bro, you know...
554
00:24:09,796 --> 00:24:11,576
Wrestling's real.
People are fake.
555
00:24:11,624 --> 00:24:12,974
[laughs]
556
00:24:13,016 --> 00:24:14,236
PRODUCER: What was the state
of their relationship
557
00:24:14,278 --> 00:24:15,578
at the time they were
getting married again?
558
00:24:15,628 --> 00:24:17,498
I would say tumultuous.
559
00:24:17,543 --> 00:24:19,503
On the verge of breaking up.
560
00:24:19,545 --> 00:24:20,805
[zap]
561
00:24:20,850 --> 00:24:23,420
So, Terry had been
cast in a movie.
562
00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:24,902
It's called Mr. Nanny.
563
00:24:24,941 --> 00:24:27,601
It required us to be down
in Miami for about 8 weeks, so
564
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,430
Liz called and goes, "When
are you gonna be back home?"
565
00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:32,949
And I said, "I'm going
back the next week."
566
00:24:32,993 --> 00:24:35,693
She's like, "Oh," she's like,
"Randy, can I please go?"
567
00:24:35,735 --> 00:24:37,385
I heard her talking to him
in the back of the phone.
568
00:24:37,432 --> 00:24:38,562
She's like,
"Can I please go?
569
00:24:38,607 --> 00:24:40,167
I want to go help
Linda with the kids.
570
00:24:40,217 --> 00:24:42,257
I just want to go see them
and hang out with
571
00:24:42,306 --> 00:24:43,866
Nick and Brooke in
the pool and stuff."
572
00:24:43,917 --> 00:24:46,437
And he's like, "Well,
only if you're gonna be
573
00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:48,525
babysitting and you're
gonna be with Linda."
574
00:24:48,574 --> 00:24:50,494
She flew down with us.
It was so much fun.
575
00:24:50,532 --> 00:24:51,792
She helped me
unload the kids,
576
00:24:51,838 --> 00:24:53,578
we got the toys,
we were hanging out.
577
00:24:53,622 --> 00:24:55,022
We were all gonna
go out to dinner, you know,
578
00:24:55,058 --> 00:24:57,448
I said, so, I'll just go
get ready, do whatever,
579
00:24:57,496 --> 00:24:59,536
come back from your workout
or whatever, and...
580
00:24:59,585 --> 00:25:01,495
7:30, I'm thinking like,
aren't we gonna do
581
00:25:01,543 --> 00:25:03,553
our makeup together and
our hair together,
582
00:25:03,589 --> 00:25:05,239
which is what we always did,
so I'm kind of like
583
00:25:05,286 --> 00:25:08,066
knocking on her door and
I see the light is on,
584
00:25:08,115 --> 00:25:12,075
I can see under the door,
but she's not answering.
585
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:18,339
I'm like, "Where's Liz?"
586
00:25:18,386 --> 00:25:21,476
In 1992, leaving her husband
Randy Savage behind,
587
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,310
Elizabeth travels alone
to Miami to stay with
588
00:25:24,348 --> 00:25:26,868
Hulk Hogan and
his wife, Linda.
589
00:25:26,916 --> 00:25:29,306
Terry had to film the
next morning and the
590
00:25:29,353 --> 00:25:31,313
whole next day goes on and
I see her at the pool.
591
00:25:31,355 --> 00:25:32,875
I'm like, "Liz,
where were you?"
592
00:25:32,922 --> 00:25:34,362
You know, "We were
worried about you."
593
00:25:34,402 --> 00:25:36,752
And she's like, "Oh, well,
I met this other gentleman
594
00:25:36,796 --> 00:25:39,446
that lives in the building
and he has an extra room
595
00:25:39,494 --> 00:25:40,714
here in the building,
and he,
596
00:25:40,756 --> 00:25:43,016
he thought maybe
I'd want to take it."
597
00:25:43,063 --> 00:25:45,373
The way I heard the story
was that Liz wanted
598
00:25:45,413 --> 00:25:48,723
away from Randy, and so,
she contacted Hulk's wife,
599
00:25:48,764 --> 00:25:52,164
Linda, and went and
stayed with them.
600
00:25:52,202 --> 00:25:54,202
Now meanwhile, Randy is
freaking out 'cause
601
00:25:54,248 --> 00:25:57,988
he doesn't know where
the love of his life is.
602
00:25:58,034 --> 00:26:01,434
Randy kept calling my
room wanting to talk to Liz,
603
00:26:01,472 --> 00:26:03,692
and I was like,
"Liz is not here."
604
00:26:03,736 --> 00:26:05,516
[laughs] I didn't say she
had her own room.
605
00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:06,964
I just said,
"She's not here.
606
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,260
I think she's with friends,"
or something like that,
607
00:26:08,305 --> 00:26:09,565
and he goes,
"Well, where is she?"
608
00:26:09,611 --> 00:26:11,091
I was like, "She's not here,
she's not here."
609
00:26:11,134 --> 00:26:13,624
Randy was like,
"I'm gonna fly down," you know,
610
00:26:13,659 --> 00:26:15,789
"don't tell her because
I, I don't like this.
611
00:26:15,835 --> 00:26:17,915
You know, she's never
like missed my calls and
612
00:26:17,967 --> 00:26:19,187
she should be answering.
613
00:26:19,229 --> 00:26:21,059
She should at least
be calling me back."
614
00:26:21,101 --> 00:26:24,191
Three hours later,
he lands, comes in,
615
00:26:24,234 --> 00:26:25,454
blazing in the door.
616
00:26:25,496 --> 00:26:28,406
Blazing guns of fire,
looking for Liz,
617
00:26:28,456 --> 00:26:31,936
and I'm sitting there and
he's like, "Where's Liz?"
618
00:26:31,981 --> 00:26:35,031
I was like, "Randy, look.
I don't know."
619
00:26:35,071 --> 00:26:37,291
He's like, "What?"
You know,
620
00:26:37,334 --> 00:26:38,904
"Where do
you think she is?"
621
00:26:38,945 --> 00:26:41,205
You know,
"Who was she with last?
622
00:26:41,251 --> 00:26:42,911
What did you guys do?
623
00:26:42,949 --> 00:26:46,559
I'm gonna go find Liz and I want
you sitting here in the chair,
624
00:26:46,605 --> 00:26:48,865
and if you so much
as leave this chair and
625
00:26:48,911 --> 00:26:51,311
you smarten her up and tell her
that I'm here looking for her,
626
00:26:51,348 --> 00:26:52,788
you're gonna
hear about it."
627
00:26:52,828 --> 00:26:54,998
I'd never seen Randy
like this before in my life
628
00:26:55,048 --> 00:26:57,618
because I'd never even
seen them argue or fight.
629
00:26:57,659 --> 00:26:59,309
Seriously, I really hadn't.
630
00:26:59,356 --> 00:27:01,486
So, him and Terry
went out the door,
631
00:27:01,532 --> 00:27:03,582
and I didn't know
what was going on.
632
00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:05,152
I just knew I wasn't
leaving the chair.
633
00:27:05,188 --> 00:27:06,758
And, I guess he found her.
634
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:08,449
Terry came back to
the room and said,
635
00:27:08,496 --> 00:27:10,976
"I left them on their own.
They're sorting it out."
636
00:27:11,020 --> 00:27:13,410
So they got in their rental car
and they drove back home
637
00:27:13,457 --> 00:27:15,627
and he basically told Terry
in so many words or less,
638
00:27:15,677 --> 00:27:18,107
like, "Liz is not coming
back to Miami and
639
00:27:18,158 --> 00:27:20,288
there's no more hanging out.
Party's over.
640
00:27:20,334 --> 00:27:23,254
This is ridiculous. She just
went too crazy," you know.
641
00:27:23,293 --> 00:27:27,253
I think Randy felt, you know,
again, life imitating art,
642
00:27:27,297 --> 00:27:31,077
that Hulk was taking Liz's side.
643
00:27:31,127 --> 00:27:32,867
Well, that was the beginning
of the end for them,
644
00:27:32,912 --> 00:27:36,052
but beginning of the end for
Randy and Hulk too because
645
00:27:36,089 --> 00:27:38,269
Randy always thought that Hulk
had something to do with it.
646
00:27:38,308 --> 00:27:40,828
And, I'm with-- I've been
with Hulk for 39 years.
647
00:27:40,876 --> 00:27:42,176
Hulk had nothing
to do with that.
648
00:27:42,225 --> 00:27:44,095
He was shooting
the doggone movie.
649
00:27:44,140 --> 00:27:47,450
I think that when,
when you separate and like
650
00:27:47,491 --> 00:27:51,451
she's at home and
he's on the road, that...
651
00:27:51,495 --> 00:27:53,665
all of a sudden, it's a
newfound freedom and
652
00:27:53,715 --> 00:27:56,715
that's a whole brand new
life on both parts.
653
00:27:56,762 --> 00:27:58,152
You know, it was
just a normal day.
654
00:27:58,198 --> 00:28:00,028
I was just home
with the kids...
655
00:28:00,069 --> 00:28:03,289
beautiful day out, and
this is probably like
656
00:28:03,333 --> 00:28:07,253
5, 6 weeks after we wrapped
filming and we left Miami.
657
00:28:07,294 --> 00:28:08,694
You know,
hard line phones.
658
00:28:08,730 --> 00:28:09,860
I'm in the kitchen.
659
00:28:09,905 --> 00:28:11,725
I'm giving Nick a
bottle or whatever,
660
00:28:11,777 --> 00:28:13,737
and it's Liz.
I'm like, "Hey, Liz!
661
00:28:13,779 --> 00:28:15,349
God, I miss you.
How are you?"
662
00:28:15,389 --> 00:28:16,869
You know...
663
00:28:16,912 --> 00:28:19,742
And it was like dead silent
on the other end of the phone.
664
00:28:19,785 --> 00:28:24,135
I was like, "Liz?"
She's like, "Linda...
665
00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:28,750
I left Randy."
666
00:28:28,794 --> 00:28:30,674
I was listening to
her and she was like,
667
00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:32,409
sounded like she was at a
gas station or something.
668
00:28:32,449 --> 00:28:34,319
I could hear cars going by
on the freeway, you know.
669
00:28:34,364 --> 00:28:35,414
I was like, oh my God.
670
00:28:35,452 --> 00:28:37,112
She goes,
"I'm done. I left him."
671
00:28:37,150 --> 00:28:39,020
And I said, "Oh my God."
I said, "Are you home?
672
00:28:39,065 --> 00:28:40,755
Can I come help you?
Can I talk to you?"
673
00:28:40,806 --> 00:28:43,326
I was like, I need to talk some
sense into this girl, you know.
674
00:28:43,373 --> 00:28:44,683
And, she wasn't home.
She goes,
675
00:28:44,723 --> 00:28:46,123
"Nope.
I'm halfway to Miami.
676
00:28:46,159 --> 00:28:48,159
I'm going back.
I met some people there.
677
00:28:48,204 --> 00:28:50,514
I got a place to stay."
She goes,
678
00:28:50,554 --> 00:28:55,604
"Just promise me, don't tell
Randy that I'm on the road."
679
00:28:55,646 --> 00:28:57,516
She had a convertible,
little red Cadillac.
680
00:28:57,561 --> 00:29:00,521
And I, I just-- The mental
picture in my mind was her,
681
00:29:00,564 --> 00:29:02,704
like a country music
video or something,
682
00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:05,611
with two suitcases in the back
and just driving her convertible
683
00:29:05,656 --> 00:29:08,486
down to Miami with the wind
blowing through her hair,
684
00:29:08,529 --> 00:29:11,529
probably feeling free
and relieved of the
685
00:29:11,575 --> 00:29:15,795
constant submission
that Randy had on her.
686
00:29:15,841 --> 00:29:17,891
And it wasn't that he
was trying to do it
687
00:29:17,930 --> 00:29:19,280
out of being mean or anything.
688
00:29:19,322 --> 00:29:20,932
It was just his
protective way,
689
00:29:20,976 --> 00:29:24,146
but she had just had
enough of that suppression.
690
00:29:24,197 --> 00:29:27,937
When Randy and Liz split up,
you could tell there was
691
00:29:27,983 --> 00:29:29,643
a change in the Macho Man.
692
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,550
You know, he was a
little drawn back.
693
00:29:31,595 --> 00:29:36,035
He really wasn't as intense as
he was when they were together.
694
00:29:36,078 --> 00:29:40,558
Once she was gone, he really
kind of just went silent.
695
00:29:40,604 --> 00:29:42,824
He lost all...
696
00:29:42,868 --> 00:29:44,828
he didn't really care
about the business,
697
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:47,000
you know, it was
like the lights are on,
698
00:29:47,046 --> 00:29:48,396
but nobody's home.
699
00:29:48,438 --> 00:29:52,138
Sad, but yet, there was
that exterior that was,
700
00:29:52,181 --> 00:29:53,661
"Okay, I've gotta move on."
701
00:29:53,704 --> 00:29:55,924
I think Randy was tormented.
702
00:29:55,968 --> 00:29:57,488
You know, I mean,
he had all the money,
703
00:29:57,534 --> 00:29:59,194
all the stuff, and all that,
but he always,
704
00:29:59,232 --> 00:30:01,232
[gruff voice]
he was never...
705
00:30:01,277 --> 00:30:03,187
I don't know; he was
always so wound up,
706
00:30:03,236 --> 00:30:05,886
and I'm thinking "Mach,
like, you've made it, bro."
707
00:30:05,934 --> 00:30:07,414
Like, what's missing?
708
00:30:07,457 --> 00:30:10,107
Like, what's it gonna
take to make you happy?
709
00:30:10,156 --> 00:30:13,376
One day, we were
sitting in the car...
710
00:30:13,420 --> 00:30:15,860
ah, waiting for
Vince to come down,
711
00:30:15,901 --> 00:30:18,641
taking forever, and
Vince gets in the car,
712
00:30:18,686 --> 00:30:21,906
shuts the door and says,
"Gentlemen, Randy Savage is
713
00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:25,780
now the proud property of
World Championship Wrestling."
714
00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:31,004
And, we're like...
715
00:30:31,046 --> 00:30:37,266
"What happened?"
716
00:30:37,313 --> 00:30:42,543
WCW was owned by Ted Turner,
the competition to the WWF.
717
00:30:42,579 --> 00:30:46,849
Ted Turner had started to
try and lure talent from the
718
00:30:46,888 --> 00:30:50,328
WWF over to WCW.
719
00:30:50,370 --> 00:30:53,900
Hulk Hogan was the first
talent that made the big jump.
720
00:30:53,939 --> 00:30:56,379
The Macho Man, Randy Savage,
he's interested in coming over
721
00:30:56,419 --> 00:30:59,159
because the WWE,
Randy had been
722
00:30:59,205 --> 00:31:01,765
put out to pasture
by Vince McMahon.
723
00:31:01,816 --> 00:31:04,116
And Vince McMahon basically
said, "Randy, you're too old.
724
00:31:04,166 --> 00:31:06,776
Your gimmick's over,
your shtick is done.
725
00:31:06,821 --> 00:31:08,131
You're gonna be a
colour commentator,"
726
00:31:08,170 --> 00:31:09,960
and that hurt Randy.
727
00:31:09,998 --> 00:31:12,168
I didn't want to reinvent
a wheel that I believed
728
00:31:12,218 --> 00:31:14,388
already worked.
And by the way,
729
00:31:14,437 --> 00:31:16,267
when Randy Savage
came over...
730
00:31:16,309 --> 00:31:17,749
[shattering glass]
731
00:31:17,788 --> 00:31:19,878
- Want to spice up your life?
- Yeah!
732
00:31:19,921 --> 00:31:21,231
Have a Slim Jim!
733
00:31:21,270 --> 00:31:25,140
...$750,000 a year of Slim Jim
money came with him,
734
00:31:25,187 --> 00:31:29,927
and Slim Jim wasn't interested
in changing Randy Savage.
735
00:31:29,975 --> 00:31:33,325
WCW has given the Macho Man
a renewed career,
736
00:31:33,369 --> 00:31:35,329
but his protective nature
won't allow him to leave
737
00:31:35,371 --> 00:31:37,371
his one true love behind.
738
00:31:37,417 --> 00:31:39,937
Randy called her up
and said, "Come on in.
739
00:31:39,985 --> 00:31:42,245
You can be a part of the story
line, make some money."
740
00:31:42,291 --> 00:31:44,821
He's divorcing
Elizabeth at this point,
741
00:31:44,859 --> 00:31:46,819
but cares about her enough
that he gets her a
742
00:31:46,861 --> 00:31:49,121
250 grand a year contract,
743
00:31:49,168 --> 00:31:50,778
just to kind of stand around
and look pretty.
744
00:31:50,821 --> 00:31:52,431
She wasn't even
on camera much,
745
00:31:52,475 --> 00:31:54,385
but he wanted
her looked after.
746
00:31:54,434 --> 00:31:56,744
Except this time,
she was the villain and
747
00:31:56,784 --> 00:31:58,664
Randy was the babyface.
It was perfect.
748
00:31:58,699 --> 00:32:00,139
She had changed so much.
749
00:32:00,179 --> 00:32:03,489
She wasn't like the same
little quiet girl I remember.
750
00:32:03,530 --> 00:32:05,750
She was more talkative.
So, I said, "What's happening?"
751
00:32:05,793 --> 00:32:07,583
I go, "Are you
dating anybody, or...?"
752
00:32:07,621 --> 00:32:11,281
She goes, "Well, I'm kind of,
like... seeing Lex."
753
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,980
And I go,
"You're like seeing Lex?"
754
00:32:14,019 --> 00:32:15,669
I go, "Lex is married."
755
00:32:15,716 --> 00:32:18,586
And she goes, "I know;
that's the problem."
756
00:32:18,632 --> 00:32:23,032
I go, "Liz,
that's not good."
757
00:32:23,071 --> 00:32:25,861
Lex Luger was oftentimes
considered, you know,
758
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:27,990
the second coming
of Hulk Hogan.
759
00:32:28,033 --> 00:32:32,473
Lex had a million-dollar body
and he had a great look.
760
00:32:32,515 --> 00:32:35,945
Lex Luger is a, one of
the top names ever
761
00:32:35,997 --> 00:32:37,827
in professional
wrestling history.
762
00:32:37,868 --> 00:32:40,308
He's easy to hate
because it's like, what's--
763
00:32:40,349 --> 00:32:41,569
there's nothing
wrong with him.
764
00:32:41,611 --> 00:32:45,881
She was... head over
heels over him.
765
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,400
I could tell that.
766
00:32:47,443 --> 00:32:49,973
Paired together as part
of a wrestling story line,
767
00:32:50,011 --> 00:32:52,751
Elizabeth and Lex Luger's
professional relationship
768
00:32:52,796 --> 00:32:55,356
evolves into a
secret love affair.
769
00:32:55,408 --> 00:32:56,888
They were a
very happy couple.
770
00:32:56,931 --> 00:32:58,501
They'd go work out
at the gym together.
771
00:32:58,541 --> 00:33:00,331
They would spend a
lot of time together.
772
00:33:00,369 --> 00:33:02,019
They were being a
little bit sneaky,
773
00:33:02,067 --> 00:33:04,287
but adjoining rooms
and stuff, and...
774
00:33:04,330 --> 00:33:06,380
and I guess you can't help
who you're attracted to and
775
00:33:06,419 --> 00:33:08,599
who you fall in love with,
and I always liked Lex and
776
00:33:08,638 --> 00:33:09,938
I always liked Liz.
And hey,
777
00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:12,988
if you guys make each
other happy, go for it.
778
00:33:13,034 --> 00:33:16,214
So, when the ideas started
bouncing around about
779
00:33:16,255 --> 00:33:18,335
blurring the lines,
if you will,
780
00:33:18,387 --> 00:33:20,347
between scripted and reality
781
00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:23,089
with regard to Elizabeth's
relationship with Randy
782
00:33:23,131 --> 00:33:24,961
and their marriage and
their divorce...
783
00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:27,013
Randy, she's your ex-wife...
784
00:33:27,048 --> 00:33:30,268
at least you owe
her this much, man.
785
00:33:30,312 --> 00:33:32,532
I was really shocked at
first that Randy would
786
00:33:32,575 --> 00:33:34,575
entertain some
of those ideas.
787
00:33:34,621 --> 00:33:38,711
I'm really lost and
I need you, and I'm...
788
00:33:38,755 --> 00:33:40,755
I don't think I
can reach you.
789
00:33:40,801 --> 00:33:43,411
He was still very
protective of Elizabeth,
790
00:33:43,456 --> 00:33:45,236
but in a much different way.
791
00:33:45,284 --> 00:33:47,074
He watched Lex like a hawk.
792
00:33:47,112 --> 00:33:49,112
It wasn't just that they
were in a relationship;
793
00:33:49,157 --> 00:33:51,547
Lex was married
and he had kids.
794
00:33:51,594 --> 00:33:53,254
Everybody knows that
that's gonna end badly
795
00:33:53,292 --> 00:33:54,732
one way or the other.
796
00:33:54,771 --> 00:33:56,081
"Where are you living?
797
00:33:56,121 --> 00:33:57,601
You have an apartment
or whatever?"
798
00:33:57,644 --> 00:33:59,954
She's like, "No, he's...
he's got another place he's got,
799
00:33:59,994 --> 00:34:02,004
he's keeping me in, but the
weird thing is that it's in
800
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,300
the same complex of
where he and his wife live."
801
00:34:04,346 --> 00:34:07,696
I go, "Oh..."
I said, "This is not good!"
802
00:34:07,741 --> 00:34:13,621
It was pretty apparent
also that they were both...
803
00:34:13,660 --> 00:34:15,840
They were pilled up.
804
00:34:15,879 --> 00:34:20,539
They were just spending too much
time doing too many drugs.
805
00:34:20,580 --> 00:34:23,710
I've never witnessed her doing
any kind of drugs or pills,
806
00:34:23,757 --> 00:34:26,277
and in fact,
when we'd go out and drink,
807
00:34:26,325 --> 00:34:28,805
she'd have two glasses
of wine and she'd be
808
00:34:28,849 --> 00:34:30,109
already like feeling it.
809
00:34:30,155 --> 00:34:32,065
I'm like, "Oh, it's time
to go home," you know.
810
00:34:32,113 --> 00:34:35,423
Thing is, Liz doesn't
weigh 270 like me and Lex.
811
00:34:35,464 --> 00:34:38,994
Liz, Liz weighs
about 85 pounds,
812
00:34:39,033 --> 00:34:40,953
so she's taking...
813
00:34:40,991 --> 00:34:43,431
same amount of pills that
a 300-pounder's taking.
814
00:34:43,472 --> 00:34:45,952
You know, they had some
kind of a fight and
815
00:34:45,996 --> 00:34:47,776
she fell down the stairs, and
816
00:34:47,824 --> 00:34:50,004
she ended up with
two black eyes.
817
00:34:50,044 --> 00:34:52,794
In April of 2003,
squad cars respond to a
818
00:34:52,829 --> 00:34:55,309
domestic disturbance at
the home of Lex Luger.
819
00:34:55,354 --> 00:34:57,364
Upon their arrival,
the police notice
820
00:34:57,399 --> 00:34:59,139
Elizabeth has bruised eyes.
821
00:34:59,184 --> 00:35:01,404
At first she denies the
injuries are from Luger,
822
00:35:01,447 --> 00:35:03,277
but she eventually
admits to the authorities
823
00:35:03,318 --> 00:35:04,668
that he did hit her.
824
00:35:04,711 --> 00:35:05,931
Luger was charged with a
misdemeanor account
825
00:35:05,973 --> 00:35:08,283
of battery and
released on bail.
826
00:35:08,323 --> 00:35:12,243
I thought, falling down the
stairs gave her two black eyes?
827
00:35:12,284 --> 00:35:14,504
Hm...
828
00:35:14,547 --> 00:35:15,807
PRODUCER:
Talk about the idea of
829
00:35:15,852 --> 00:35:17,812
getting Lex Luger
on your podcast
830
00:35:17,854 --> 00:35:19,334
and talk about that
process and what you
831
00:35:19,378 --> 00:35:20,808
wanted to talk to him about.
832
00:35:20,857 --> 00:35:24,247
When Nick,
my producer and co-host,
833
00:35:24,296 --> 00:35:26,686
suggested it, you know,
that we bring Lex on,
834
00:35:26,733 --> 00:35:30,433
you know, I was, I had
mixed emotions because I,
835
00:35:30,476 --> 00:35:32,866
I still...
836
00:35:32,913 --> 00:35:36,003
honestly, Lex, I'm sorry,
but I still had some resentment,
837
00:35:36,046 --> 00:35:39,746
even during the time we
were making the call,
838
00:35:39,789 --> 00:35:41,969
but Lex rose
to the occasion.
839
00:35:42,009 --> 00:35:44,579
He was, he was
brutally honest.
840
00:35:44,620 --> 00:35:49,630
I, I'll never forget...
841
00:35:49,669 --> 00:35:52,409
The, ah-- It was actually
early morning hours,
842
00:35:52,454 --> 00:35:55,374
we were having just an evening
watching movies together
843
00:35:55,414 --> 00:35:57,894
and she came
back and had been
844
00:35:57,938 --> 00:36:01,938
sipping on some vodka
and popping pills and,
845
00:36:01,985 --> 00:36:05,595
literally, before
the 9-1-1 call,
846
00:36:05,641 --> 00:36:07,861
I realized she'd
stopped breathing.
847
00:36:07,904 --> 00:36:09,524
9-1-1: Okay,
what I want you to do,
848
00:36:09,558 --> 00:36:12,078
I want you to go over and
see if she's breathing.
849
00:36:12,126 --> 00:36:16,216
LEX: I can't tell.
850
00:36:16,261 --> 00:36:18,221
9-1-1: I understand that, sir.
851
00:36:18,263 --> 00:36:22,093
I have somebody on the way,
but if she's not breathing,
852
00:36:22,136 --> 00:36:24,046
you need to
help her breathe.
853
00:36:24,094 --> 00:36:26,534
You need to find out whether
or not she's breathing.
854
00:36:26,575 --> 00:36:31,185
Go over to her...
Sir.
855
00:36:31,232 --> 00:36:33,842
9-1-1: Lay down and check to
see if she's breathing.
856
00:36:33,887 --> 00:36:36,367
Look at her chest,
see if it's rising.
857
00:36:36,411 --> 00:36:39,411
LEX: It doesn't look like it is.
I'm scared to death.
858
00:36:39,458 --> 00:36:42,368
Terry called me and he
just said, you know,
859
00:36:42,417 --> 00:36:46,067
"Really, really bad news.
Liz is dead."
860
00:36:46,116 --> 00:36:47,936
And, like,
when he said that,
861
00:36:47,988 --> 00:36:51,338
I just felt like somebody
poured a bucket of ice on me.
862
00:36:51,383 --> 00:36:54,263
Oh, I was at
home in Atlanta.
863
00:36:54,299 --> 00:36:59,259
Heard it on the morning news.
864
00:36:59,304 --> 00:37:01,094
I was pissed.
865
00:37:01,131 --> 00:37:07,491
I was pissed
because I saw Lex...
866
00:37:07,529 --> 00:37:10,919
manipulating and exploiting
a vulnerable person,
867
00:37:10,967 --> 00:37:13,747
and using prescription
drugs to do it.
868
00:37:13,796 --> 00:37:15,966
LEX: They told me that
Elizabeth had just passed.
869
00:37:16,016 --> 00:37:18,276
I thought she was gonna make it
and she was gonna go to
870
00:37:18,323 --> 00:37:20,413
the hospital, and then I
heard that she didn't make it.
871
00:37:20,455 --> 00:37:24,415
Then, I was arrested on,
I think, 17 felony counts,
872
00:37:24,459 --> 00:37:27,109
and all the drugs they
found in my house.
873
00:37:27,157 --> 00:37:28,937
Thought I had the
drugs under control,
874
00:37:28,985 --> 00:37:30,765
but I ended up having--
875
00:37:30,813 --> 00:37:33,863
getting control of
Elizabeth and I,
876
00:37:33,903 --> 00:37:37,733
and the tragedy of that,
to witness that firsthand,
877
00:37:37,777 --> 00:37:40,477
it was a very dark time,
without a doubt.
878
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:42,089
I knew he was
telling the truth.
879
00:37:42,129 --> 00:37:45,829
I knew he was being honest
and accepting responsibility.
880
00:37:45,872 --> 00:37:48,882
I look at him so
differently now.
881
00:37:48,918 --> 00:37:50,878
Ah...
882
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,840
I respect him, which I never
thought I'd hear myself say.
883
00:37:54,881 --> 00:37:57,011
I want to ask you
about Miss Elizabeth,
884
00:37:57,057 --> 00:37:59,147
you know, her loss and
everything, that...
885
00:37:59,189 --> 00:38:02,189
earlier in your career,
you guys
886
00:38:02,236 --> 00:38:03,846
helped each other
out in your career.
887
00:38:03,890 --> 00:38:07,720
Yeah, we were actually
married and we got a divorce,
888
00:38:07,763 --> 00:38:09,373
like, which happens
in life sometimes,
889
00:38:09,417 --> 00:38:11,637
and we had separation,
we had closure.
890
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,640
But, really feeling real
bad for her and her family.
891
00:38:14,683 --> 00:38:17,903
And a situation where we
hadn't seen each other in
892
00:38:17,947 --> 00:38:20,517
about maybe 5, 6 years,
but, you know,
893
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:23,169
we had closure and we said hello
and everything was all good.
894
00:38:23,213 --> 00:38:25,173
But, feel bad
for her family.
895
00:38:25,215 --> 00:38:28,515
Elizabeth tragically passed
away at the age of 42,
896
00:38:28,567 --> 00:38:31,917
but grieving fans would have
no idea that this epic saga
897
00:38:31,961 --> 00:38:40,141
was approaching
its final chapter.
898
00:38:40,187 --> 00:38:42,617
This is my brother
getting married for the
899
00:38:42,668 --> 00:38:46,498
second time to the
lovely Lynn Payne-Poffo.
900
00:38:46,541 --> 00:38:49,591
In 2010, 7 years
after Elizabeth's death,
901
00:38:49,631 --> 00:38:52,901
Randy Savage finds
love once again.
902
00:38:52,939 --> 00:38:54,979
He, you know, weathered the
storm through his divorce
903
00:38:55,028 --> 00:38:57,548
and he was finally
kind of on his feet,
904
00:38:57,596 --> 00:39:00,426
he was remarried and, and...
905
00:39:00,468 --> 00:39:03,378
just starting to kind of
really enjoy his life.
906
00:39:03,428 --> 00:39:05,518
When Randy retired
from wrestling, he was
907
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,430
able to devote a lot of his
time to the Special Olympics.
908
00:39:09,477 --> 00:39:12,257
That was his
passion and he...
909
00:39:12,306 --> 00:39:16,476
enjoyed his final years
as a sedentary person.
910
00:39:16,528 --> 00:39:18,488
I was supposed to go
to San Jose, California.
911
00:39:18,530 --> 00:39:20,750
American Airlines
stopped in Dallas.
912
00:39:20,793 --> 00:39:23,403
I turned on my phone and
there was a message on there
913
00:39:23,448 --> 00:39:26,098
and it said,
"This is Largo Medical.
914
00:39:26,146 --> 00:39:32,016
Your brother and his wife were
in an automobile accident,
915
00:39:32,065 --> 00:39:34,415
and she's banged up and
916
00:39:34,459 --> 00:39:36,199
your brother's in
critical condition,"
917
00:39:36,243 --> 00:39:37,983
but the way they said it,
I knew.
918
00:39:38,027 --> 00:39:40,377
I got a phone call early
that morning from Lanny Poffo,
919
00:39:40,421 --> 00:39:41,731
"Jimmy."
"Yeah, Lanny.
920
00:39:41,770 --> 00:39:43,600
I didn't have time to
call ya 'cause it's early."
921
00:39:43,642 --> 00:39:45,082
He goes, "No, listen.
I'm coming back home."
922
00:39:45,121 --> 00:39:46,381
"Why?"
923
00:39:46,427 --> 00:39:47,727
And I could tell his
voice was really shaky.
924
00:39:47,776 --> 00:39:50,126
Goes, "What?" He goes,
"I just got a phone call."
925
00:39:50,170 --> 00:39:52,170
He said, "My brother
just got killed."
926
00:39:52,215 --> 00:39:54,035
We want to share some
breaking news with you now
927
00:39:54,087 --> 00:39:56,517
regarding a
Randy Macho Man Savage.
928
00:39:56,568 --> 00:39:59,658
You may know him well.
He is a pro wrestler.
929
00:39:59,701 --> 00:40:03,361
We have just confirmed that
Randy Macho Man Savage has
930
00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:05,971
died coming from the
Florida Highway Patrol.
931
00:40:06,012 --> 00:40:07,582
There was a car accident.
932
00:40:07,622 --> 00:40:11,062
I was literally on my way to
the airport to leave Clearwater
933
00:40:11,104 --> 00:40:14,244
when I got the phone
call from Hulk, or, Terry.
934
00:40:14,281 --> 00:40:18,631
Crashed into a tree and died
as a result of a heart attack.
935
00:40:18,677 --> 00:40:19,937
It was,
it's hard to believe.
936
00:40:19,982 --> 00:40:21,682
Even now, sitting here
doing this interview,
937
00:40:21,723 --> 00:40:23,073
it's hard to believe
it's true 'cause he,
938
00:40:23,116 --> 00:40:24,326
he was so full of life.
939
00:40:24,378 --> 00:40:26,818
He was so full of
energy, brother,
940
00:40:26,859 --> 00:40:32,169
it's hard to imagine
that he's not here, really.
941
00:40:32,212 --> 00:40:36,702
We're going to the site
where my brother lost control,
942
00:40:36,738 --> 00:40:37,738
and you're gonna
see the tree.
943
00:40:37,783 --> 00:40:39,003
They still got
a few flowers,
944
00:40:39,045 --> 00:40:41,915
although they've
taken some of them down.
945
00:40:41,961 --> 00:40:44,351
It's been 7 years, you know.
946
00:40:44,398 --> 00:40:54,318
♪
947
00:40:54,364 --> 00:40:57,504
I judge people by
the way, for example,
948
00:40:57,542 --> 00:41:01,282
Randy treated my kids.
Oh, and that was it for me.
949
00:41:01,328 --> 00:41:03,898
If I start thinking about
that too much I'll cry.
950
00:41:03,939 --> 00:41:06,639
He went out of his
way to be really,
951
00:41:06,681 --> 00:41:10,731
really good to kids, and
that's how I judge people.
952
00:41:10,772 --> 00:41:12,862
He loved Brooke
and he loved kids.
953
00:41:12,905 --> 00:41:16,295
I'm sure he probably would
have said yes at any time
954
00:41:16,343 --> 00:41:17,953
and loved to
have kids with Liz.
955
00:41:17,997 --> 00:41:20,697
I think it's a shame Liz
isn't in the Hall of Fame.
956
00:41:20,739 --> 00:41:23,219
I think that she was called
the First Lady of Wrestling
957
00:41:23,263 --> 00:41:26,093
for a reason.
She was the first
958
00:41:26,135 --> 00:41:30,525
significant female star
who never wrestled.
959
00:41:30,575 --> 00:41:33,055
Because he had
her at his side,
960
00:41:33,099 --> 00:41:36,929
made him even more special
because she was so special.
961
00:41:36,972 --> 00:41:41,542
She was the first female
that was depicted in a...
962
00:41:41,586 --> 00:41:43,326
in a powerful role.
963
00:41:43,370 --> 00:41:46,420
She was beautiful,
quiet, but she was class.
964
00:41:46,460 --> 00:41:48,030
Elizabeth was class.
965
00:41:48,070 --> 00:41:51,990
Maybe a boy named Timmy
would come up with his father
966
00:41:52,031 --> 00:41:55,951
and they say, "May I have
your autograph, sir,"
967
00:41:55,991 --> 00:42:00,211
and he'd, "Oh, yeah.
Here's the deal, Timmy.
968
00:42:00,256 --> 00:42:01,866
I'm gonna sign
your autograph,
969
00:42:01,910 --> 00:42:03,960
but you gotta do
something for me."
970
00:42:03,999 --> 00:42:06,219
"Well, what's that?"
971
00:42:06,262 --> 00:42:08,922
"How ya doin' in
school, Timmy?
972
00:42:08,961 --> 00:42:10,921
How you doing in school?
Are you doing your best?
973
00:42:10,963 --> 00:42:13,533
'Cause Timmy, I'm gonna
sign your autograph,
974
00:42:13,574 --> 00:42:15,324
but if you don't
do well in school,
975
00:42:15,358 --> 00:42:18,708
if you don't do your
best every single day,
976
00:42:18,753 --> 00:42:21,973
it's gonna be real,
real bad for you."
977
00:42:22,017 --> 00:42:23,577
Randy and Elizabeth
were greater than
978
00:42:23,628 --> 00:42:25,188
the sum of their parts.
979
00:42:25,238 --> 00:42:28,018
They were undoubtedly key
to each other's legacy.
980
00:42:28,067 --> 00:42:30,717
Fans had never before
experienced a more emotional
981
00:42:30,765 --> 00:42:34,155
and relatable story line
on the complexity of love.
982
00:42:34,203 --> 00:42:36,423
Together they
transcended television,
983
00:42:36,466 --> 00:42:38,946
and, well...
wrestling, too.
984
00:42:38,991 --> 00:42:42,041
Even after the divorce,
they still had a tremendous
985
00:42:42,081 --> 00:42:44,131
amount of love and
respect for each other.
986
00:42:44,170 --> 00:42:47,130
They were true, true
celebrities and icons.
987
00:42:47,173 --> 00:42:48,913
There's not one person on
the whole planet earth that
988
00:42:48,957 --> 00:42:50,177
doesn't know who they were.
989
00:42:50,219 --> 00:42:51,609
From a wrestler's
point of view,
990
00:42:51,656 --> 00:42:53,826
she's one of the greatest
performers ever, you know.
991
00:42:53,875 --> 00:42:56,915
While both passed too soon,
they left their legions of fans
992
00:42:56,965 --> 00:42:59,395
with an epic love story
that will last
993
00:42:59,446 --> 00:43:01,666
long after they're gone.
994
00:43:01,709 --> 00:43:05,229
To me, Randy Savage is on the
Mount Rushmore of wrestling.
995
00:43:05,278 --> 00:43:07,408
Could perform,
could do an interview,
996
00:43:07,454 --> 00:43:08,674
had the right look.
997
00:43:08,716 --> 00:43:10,016
He was the Macho Man.
998
00:43:10,065 --> 00:43:12,495
He was an innovator,
he was a creator,
999
00:43:12,546 --> 00:43:16,376
and he, he made
the business better,
1000
00:43:16,419 --> 00:43:17,859
in my opinion.
1001
00:43:17,899 --> 00:43:19,989
I would call Randy Savage
one of the all-time greatest,
1002
00:43:20,032 --> 00:43:21,342
without a doubt.
1003
00:43:21,381 --> 00:43:24,341
And the real human being,
Randy Poffo,
1004
00:43:24,384 --> 00:43:27,564
was really a very good man,
and a loving man.
1005
00:43:27,605 --> 00:43:29,685
It was a lot of
art imitating life.
1006
00:43:29,737 --> 00:43:31,217
You know,
sometimes in the world,
1007
00:43:31,260 --> 00:43:33,650
what really happens,
it's not really planned.
1008
00:43:33,698 --> 00:43:35,608
After you roll with it,
then all of a sudden,
1009
00:43:35,656 --> 00:43:37,566
you really turn into that
character and turn into that
1010
00:43:37,615 --> 00:43:39,695
dilemma that takes place.
1011
00:43:39,747 --> 00:43:42,357
I think people will always
want to think of her as
1012
00:43:42,402 --> 00:43:45,492
Miss Elizabeth, the one
that'd been with Randy.
1013
00:43:45,535 --> 00:43:47,925
You don't want to remember
her being with somebody else.
1014
00:43:47,973 --> 00:43:49,633
It just doesn't seem right.
1015
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:51,320
I mean,
that's what we were fed.
1016
00:43:51,367 --> 00:43:52,977
You know,
that's what we believed.
1017
00:43:53,021 --> 00:43:59,031
♪