1 00:00:05,005 --> 00:00:08,041 -Simply put, they were the most badass tag team 2 00:00:08,041 --> 00:00:09,610 to ever enter the ring. 3 00:00:09,610 --> 00:00:11,612 We're talking about "The Road Warriors" tonight, 4 00:00:11,612 --> 00:00:16,083 and I am joined by an absolute all star panel to discuss them. 5 00:00:16,083 --> 00:00:18,819 We got Jake "The Snake" Roberts here tonight, 6 00:00:18,819 --> 00:00:21,922 we have former Sheepherder and Bushwhacker Luke Williams, 7 00:00:21,922 --> 00:00:24,291 and of course, the Road Warrior himself, 8 00:00:24,291 --> 00:00:25,592 its "Animal," Joe Laurinaitis. 9 00:00:25,592 --> 00:00:27,661 This is "Dark Side of the Ring After Dark," 10 00:00:27,661 --> 00:00:29,496 and it starts now. 11 00:00:29,496 --> 00:00:35,669 ♪♪ 12 00:00:35,669 --> 00:00:41,842 ♪♪ 13 00:00:41,842 --> 00:00:43,443 They are a tag team 14 00:00:43,443 --> 00:00:45,679 all other tag teams now get compared to. 15 00:00:45,679 --> 00:00:48,882 You know them -- we're talking face paint, shoulder pads, 16 00:00:48,882 --> 00:00:51,885 spikes, leather chaps -- it's "The Road Warriors." 17 00:00:51,885 --> 00:00:55,022 The "Legion of Doom" wreaked havoc all over the world 18 00:00:55,022 --> 00:00:56,223 throughout their careers. 19 00:00:56,223 --> 00:00:58,492 Got a jam-packed show for you tonight. 20 00:00:58,492 --> 00:01:00,694 Our first two guests, they need no introduction. 21 00:01:00,694 --> 00:01:04,598 I'll introduce them anyway to justify why I'm here. 22 00:01:04,598 --> 00:01:09,336 First up, an absolute hero of my childhood and yours. 23 00:01:09,336 --> 00:01:13,473 For my money, the best promo in the history of wrestling, 24 00:01:13,473 --> 00:01:15,909 hands down, Jake "The Snake" Roberts. 25 00:01:15,909 --> 00:01:17,511 Such a pleasure to talk to you. 26 00:01:17,511 --> 00:01:19,513 -Ah, man. Thanks for having me. 27 00:01:19,513 --> 00:01:21,081 -Also joining us, 28 00:01:21,081 --> 00:01:24,484 one of the biggest badasses to ever do it, man. 29 00:01:24,484 --> 00:01:26,920 He's another WWE Hall of Famer, 30 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,556 one of the inventors of the doomsday device, 31 00:01:29,556 --> 00:01:31,525 you saw him in the documentary, 32 00:01:31,525 --> 00:01:34,127 Road Warrior "Animal," Joe Laurinaitis. 33 00:01:34,127 --> 00:01:36,263 Welcome to the show. 34 00:01:36,263 --> 00:01:37,831 -Hey, Chris. Thanks for having me on, man. 35 00:01:37,831 --> 00:01:39,333 It's a pleasure to be here, bro. 36 00:01:39,333 --> 00:01:43,270 -Seeing Hawk's story, I'm left wondering... 37 00:01:43,270 --> 00:01:45,272 seems like when wrestlers go down that road, 38 00:01:45,272 --> 00:01:46,940 they go hard and fast. 39 00:01:46,940 --> 00:01:49,743 Do you think there's something about the world of wrestling 40 00:01:49,743 --> 00:01:54,047 that -- that pours fuel on the addiction fire? 41 00:01:54,047 --> 00:01:57,684 -Well, I-I -- from from my place, 42 00:01:57,684 --> 00:02:00,153 you know... [Sighs] 43 00:02:00,153 --> 00:02:03,390 Once you get a taste of being in that ring 44 00:02:03,390 --> 00:02:07,160 and you get into the adrenaline, 45 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,531 that's the most powerful drug there is -- adrenaline. 46 00:02:11,531 --> 00:02:14,501 And, um, lots of times when you left that ring, 47 00:02:14,501 --> 00:02:16,003 you weren't through. 48 00:02:16,003 --> 00:02:17,738 You wanted more. 49 00:02:17,738 --> 00:02:20,173 You know? I mean, it's the best feeling -- 50 00:02:20,173 --> 00:02:22,743 y-you -- you can't -- 51 00:02:22,743 --> 00:02:26,279 uh, you can't say in words what it feels like 52 00:02:26,279 --> 00:02:28,582 to be in front of fans 53 00:02:28,582 --> 00:02:32,285 and be able to manipulate their emotions. 54 00:02:32,285 --> 00:02:34,187 You can make them happy. Make them sad. 55 00:02:34,187 --> 00:02:36,790 You can make them do anything you want. 56 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:39,259 That's an incredible feeling 57 00:02:39,259 --> 00:02:43,096 to have that much power over -- over fans. 58 00:02:43,096 --> 00:02:46,266 And when you're in that ring and that adrenaline hits you, 59 00:02:46,266 --> 00:02:48,502 nothing hurts anymore. 60 00:02:48,502 --> 00:02:50,237 There's no pain. 61 00:02:50,237 --> 00:02:52,973 There's no -- Th-- There's no nothing. 62 00:02:52,973 --> 00:02:55,609 Everything's good. 63 00:02:55,609 --> 00:02:57,277 Not many wrestlers got in trouble 64 00:02:57,277 --> 00:02:59,413 while they were in the ring. 65 00:02:59,413 --> 00:03:02,482 It was always after the match. 66 00:03:02,482 --> 00:03:07,187 Unfortunately, some of us just couldn't say, "No," man. 67 00:03:07,187 --> 00:03:11,458 -Now, like I said, I want to focus on the happier times. 68 00:03:11,458 --> 00:03:13,860 Jake brought up manipulating the fans. 69 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:17,030 Animal, I got to stick it to you a little bit. 70 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:18,598 I-- The image in the documentary 71 00:03:18,598 --> 00:03:20,534 of you guys in your original outfits, 72 00:03:20,534 --> 00:03:22,669 when did The Road Warrior's pop begin? 73 00:03:22,669 --> 00:03:23,970 'Cause i-i-- That was, like, 74 00:03:23,970 --> 00:03:25,405 you looked like the village people. 75 00:03:25,405 --> 00:03:28,108 Like, did the pop really start after all the -- the pi-- 76 00:03:28,108 --> 00:03:30,143 the spikes and shoulder pads clicked into place? 77 00:03:30,143 --> 00:03:33,246 That -- That image was pretty amazing. 78 00:03:33,246 --> 00:03:34,714 -You know, it -- -The pads are definitely 79 00:03:34,714 --> 00:03:35,749 a mark up. 80 00:03:35,749 --> 00:03:37,651 [ Laughter ] 81 00:03:37,651 --> 00:03:38,785 -Yeah, yeah. I didn't know 82 00:03:38,785 --> 00:03:41,154 whether to do YMCA in the middle of the ring 83 00:03:41,154 --> 00:03:42,589 or what to do in the beginning, man. 84 00:03:42,589 --> 00:03:45,358 But, uh, you know, I -- actually, I got a lot of stuff 85 00:03:45,358 --> 00:03:47,060 in the very beginning, like the hat 86 00:03:47,060 --> 00:03:49,162 and the -- the -- the gloves and everything else, 87 00:03:49,162 --> 00:03:51,431 I actually got it from a-a sex shop, 88 00:03:51,431 --> 00:03:52,666 to be quite honest. 89 00:03:52,666 --> 00:03:54,968 That's where I got all the stuff that we wore. 90 00:03:54,968 --> 00:03:57,437 But, uh, you know, uh, there's definitely for real -- 91 00:03:57,437 --> 00:03:59,806 -You still have the mannequin, don't you? 92 00:03:59,806 --> 00:04:00,907 -Yeah, yeah. I still got -- 93 00:04:00,907 --> 00:04:02,676 I still got the blow-up mannequin, yeah. 94 00:04:02,676 --> 00:04:03,910 But, uh, no, man. 95 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:05,212 Y-You know, it -- 96 00:04:05,212 --> 00:04:09,049 the -- the -- the word "pop" started happening, uh, 97 00:04:09,049 --> 00:04:12,052 probably when we got to the AWA, 98 00:04:12,052 --> 00:04:14,387 because we were heels most of our career 99 00:04:14,387 --> 00:04:15,655 in the very beginning, right -- 100 00:04:15,655 --> 00:04:16,857 in the very beginning, the first couple years. 101 00:04:16,857 --> 00:04:18,125 Then, you know, we went to the AWA 102 00:04:18,125 --> 00:04:20,494 after a couple of years, and then we start wrestling. 103 00:04:20,494 --> 00:04:23,697 You know, that was kind of like our hometown, hometown. 104 00:04:23,697 --> 00:04:25,365 Right? And so we're in the same old Civic Center, 105 00:04:25,365 --> 00:04:26,566 and you're against Larry "The Axe" Henning 106 00:04:26,566 --> 00:04:27,868 and Curt Henning, you know, 107 00:04:27,868 --> 00:04:29,736 and you're getting a standing ovation, you know? 108 00:04:29,736 --> 00:04:31,505 Which was unreal at the time. 109 00:04:31,505 --> 00:04:34,007 You know, beating up Vern Gagne, you're getting cheered, 110 00:04:34,007 --> 00:04:35,742 or Greg Gagne, you're getting cheered. 111 00:04:35,742 --> 00:04:39,179 So then, you know, I think after a while, 112 00:04:39,179 --> 00:04:42,849 you know, and -- and this is one thing -- 113 00:04:42,849 --> 00:04:44,351 one thing we learned from Jake in the beginning, 114 00:04:44,351 --> 00:04:46,853 because Jake was one of the original members of the L.O.D., 115 00:04:46,853 --> 00:04:49,556 he taught us a lot how to respect your craft. 116 00:04:49,556 --> 00:04:51,958 And we really took a lot of that to heart. 117 00:04:51,958 --> 00:04:54,194 And so, we respected our craft, and we always wanted 118 00:04:54,194 --> 00:04:56,163 to try to be top dog, you know? 119 00:04:56,163 --> 00:04:58,765 But we always used to sp-- you're only as good in wrestling 120 00:04:58,765 --> 00:05:00,800 as the guy you're in the ring with. 121 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,470 And if they react to the way the fans are 122 00:05:03,470 --> 00:05:05,205 as you're in the ring, 123 00:05:05,205 --> 00:05:07,908 and then it becomes a happy dance, you know? 124 00:05:07,908 --> 00:05:11,111 And sometimes, I think guys make the mistake of fighting it, 125 00:05:11,111 --> 00:05:12,579 and they try to go against the grain. 126 00:05:12,579 --> 00:05:15,182 And sometimes there's no -- no -- why fight it? 127 00:05:15,182 --> 00:05:17,083 They're gonna like you, or they're gonna like you. 128 00:05:17,083 --> 00:05:18,652 You know? Whether -- Jake will tell you, 129 00:05:18,652 --> 00:05:20,720 whether he was the babyface or a heel, 130 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,455 if they liked you as the heel, they like you as the heel. 131 00:05:22,455 --> 00:05:23,623 What are you gonna do? 132 00:05:23,623 --> 00:05:25,125 I mean -- and especially in today's society -- 133 00:05:25,125 --> 00:05:26,193 -You still go out and do the same -- 134 00:05:26,193 --> 00:05:28,361 You still go out and do the same things. 135 00:05:28,361 --> 00:05:29,863 -Same -- Same thing. -Nothing changed. 136 00:05:29,863 --> 00:05:31,998 -And that's one thing that Hawk and I never -- 137 00:05:31,998 --> 00:05:34,100 Hawk and I made it a point to never insult 138 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:36,336 the intelligence of the fans and the people. 139 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:39,206 So we never changed our promo, our style, or anything 140 00:05:39,206 --> 00:05:41,841 from whether we were a good guy or bad guy. 141 00:05:41,841 --> 00:05:43,510 -That's right. -I think we got a louder cheer 142 00:05:43,510 --> 00:05:45,612 when we turned on Sting and Luger one time. 143 00:05:45,612 --> 00:05:47,547 We beat up Sting and Luger, left them laying, 144 00:05:47,547 --> 00:05:49,449 and we got a standing ovation. -Yeah. Yeah. 145 00:05:49,449 --> 00:05:52,085 -You know? So that's just, you know, g-- 146 00:05:52,085 --> 00:05:55,855 I-I-It was fun to be educated, to say the right way. You know? 147 00:05:55,855 --> 00:05:58,124 -We have a scene from the episode. 148 00:05:58,124 --> 00:06:01,328 Let's see how "The Road Warriors" were found. 149 00:06:01,328 --> 00:06:05,065 -One night, some guy was, uh, misbehaving, 150 00:06:05,065 --> 00:06:06,833 and I had to escort him out. 151 00:06:06,833 --> 00:06:09,135 Well, I had one hand behind his collar 152 00:06:09,135 --> 00:06:10,270 and one hand on his belt loop, 153 00:06:10,270 --> 00:06:12,372 and I threw him through the front door. 154 00:06:12,372 --> 00:06:14,674 And we had this trip wire outside, 155 00:06:14,674 --> 00:06:17,143 and we used to gauge each other 156 00:06:17,143 --> 00:06:20,213 by how many flips a guy could do around this wire. 157 00:06:20,213 --> 00:06:21,514 And when the guy gets done flipping, 158 00:06:21,514 --> 00:06:24,117 he lands right on Ole Anderson's shoes. 159 00:06:24,117 --> 00:06:26,253 And alls I did was say, "Hey, how are you doing?" 160 00:06:26,253 --> 00:06:27,988 And I turn around and went back in the bar. 161 00:06:27,988 --> 00:06:33,026 Next thing you know, Ole brings me down to Atlanta. 162 00:06:33,026 --> 00:06:34,461 -When we come back, we'll have more 163 00:06:34,461 --> 00:06:36,963 with Jake "The Snake" Roberts with Road Warrior "Animal." 164 00:06:36,963 --> 00:06:39,833 We'll be joined by WWE Hall of Famer 165 00:06:39,833 --> 00:06:41,601 Bushwhacker Luke Williams. 166 00:06:41,601 --> 00:06:43,236 This is "Dark Side of the Ring: After Dark." 167 00:06:43,236 --> 00:06:44,571 Don't go anywhere. 168 00:06:44,571 --> 00:06:50,977 ♪♪ 169 00:06:52,512 --> 00:06:58,485 ♪♪ 170 00:06:58,485 --> 00:07:00,754 -Welcome back to "Dark Side of the Ring After Dark." 171 00:07:00,754 --> 00:07:01,888 I'm Chris Gethard, 172 00:07:01,888 --> 00:07:03,356 joined by Jake "The Snake" Roberts, 173 00:07:03,356 --> 00:07:05,258 joined by Road Warrior "Animal." 174 00:07:05,258 --> 00:07:08,094 And now joining us, he invented the "Bushwhacker Walk," 175 00:07:08,094 --> 00:07:10,063 you saw him licking his partner's head, 176 00:07:10,063 --> 00:07:11,665 his opponents' heads. 177 00:07:11,665 --> 00:07:12,999 He was one of the "Sheepherders," 178 00:07:12,999 --> 00:07:14,000 he was one of the "Bushwhackers," 179 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,735 He was even on "Family Matters." 180 00:07:15,735 --> 00:07:17,804 Bushwhacker Luke Williams, welcome to the show. 181 00:07:17,804 --> 00:07:21,007 -Whoa. Good night, Chris. Great to see you, mate. 182 00:07:21,007 --> 00:07:22,575 It's great to be on the show. 183 00:07:22,575 --> 00:07:24,511 Boy, you have a good, forehead. 184 00:07:24,511 --> 00:07:26,646 I'd like to give you a good lick... 185 00:07:26,646 --> 00:07:28,648 -I do have a... -...Bushwhacker style. 186 00:07:28,648 --> 00:07:30,216 -...a massive lickable forehead. 187 00:07:30,216 --> 00:07:31,885 So, many people say it's a five-head, 188 00:07:31,885 --> 00:07:33,586 and it would be an honor someday. It would -- 189 00:07:33,586 --> 00:07:34,821 I never thought I'd say this, 190 00:07:34,821 --> 00:07:37,090 it'd be an honor to have you lick my head, sir. 191 00:07:37,090 --> 00:07:41,227 -Long as it doesn't taste like sardines, mate. 192 00:07:41,227 --> 00:07:42,662 [ Laughter ] -I don't think it does. 193 00:07:42,662 --> 00:07:44,030 Now, I got to ask you, 194 00:07:44,030 --> 00:07:48,401 we have two great tag team wrestlers here, 195 00:07:48,401 --> 00:07:50,070 we also have one of the major masters 196 00:07:50,070 --> 00:07:51,938 of wrestling psychology, 197 00:07:51,938 --> 00:07:55,475 for all of ya, what makes a great tag team? 198 00:07:55,475 --> 00:07:58,411 Joe, let's start with you. 199 00:07:58,411 --> 00:08:00,246 -You know, I think that what separated Hawk and I 200 00:08:00,246 --> 00:08:02,082 from other tag teams, 201 00:08:02,082 --> 00:08:04,951 we kind of had telepathy. 202 00:08:04,951 --> 00:08:06,052 You know? We kind of knew 203 00:08:06,052 --> 00:08:07,821 where each other had to be in the ring, 204 00:08:07,821 --> 00:08:10,390 we knew what was coming up next in the match, and -- 205 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:14,294 and, you know, we learned from guys like Jake and Luke, 206 00:08:14,294 --> 00:08:16,029 you know, you have your center of the ring, 207 00:08:16,029 --> 00:08:17,530 you're keeping the guys on your side of the ring, 208 00:08:17,530 --> 00:08:18,531 and all this other stuff. 209 00:08:18,531 --> 00:08:20,166 The ring psychology we had 210 00:08:20,166 --> 00:08:21,468 we learned from working with -- 211 00:08:21,468 --> 00:08:24,504 I mean, I was -- bro, I was blessed in the beginning. 212 00:08:24,504 --> 00:08:27,207 Not only Jake and Luke, but Stan Hansen and Dusty Rhodes, 213 00:08:27,207 --> 00:08:29,242 Tommy Rich, all of these great -- Mr. Wrestling -- 214 00:08:29,242 --> 00:08:31,811 all these great guys that taught us. 215 00:08:31,811 --> 00:08:34,614 We just had a telepathy, and we just kind of had 216 00:08:34,614 --> 00:08:38,718 a-a sense of where to be in the ring. 217 00:08:38,718 --> 00:08:40,253 I think one thing that we could take with us 218 00:08:40,253 --> 00:08:42,589 is that w-we kind of did that part right, 219 00:08:42,589 --> 00:08:44,958 if anything right, in the wrestling business, right? 220 00:08:44,958 --> 00:08:47,360 So, you know, i-it -- 221 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,362 You just can't throw, I don't believe, 222 00:08:49,362 --> 00:08:51,364 at any time -- throw two guys together. 223 00:08:51,364 --> 00:08:54,000 And that's what, uh, they try to do a lot of times 224 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,301 is just throw two guys together and say, 225 00:08:55,301 --> 00:08:56,770 "Oh, yeah, you're a great tag team." 226 00:08:56,770 --> 00:08:58,104 -Luke, any other advice? 227 00:08:58,104 --> 00:08:59,572 If there's young wrestlers out there right now 228 00:08:59,572 --> 00:09:01,107 who want to form great tag teams, 229 00:09:01,107 --> 00:09:04,744 what are some of the key things they should keep in mind? 230 00:09:04,744 --> 00:09:06,212 -Well, today -- 231 00:09:06,212 --> 00:09:08,515 today, they need to come back to psychology. 232 00:09:08,515 --> 00:09:12,218 I -- That's what, um, Joe was just talking about. 233 00:09:12,218 --> 00:09:16,589 Butch and me, we were together for 35 years. 234 00:09:16,589 --> 00:09:19,392 We were just, uh, molded as a tag team. 235 00:09:19,392 --> 00:09:21,227 We could read each other. 236 00:09:21,227 --> 00:09:24,697 Without i-- Without ever just talk to each other. 237 00:09:24,697 --> 00:09:29,068 Just something that comes to you after a period of time. 238 00:09:29,068 --> 00:09:30,970 -Now, Jake, when you look back at that era, 239 00:09:30,970 --> 00:09:32,439 are you happy you were a singles wrestler? 240 00:09:32,439 --> 00:09:34,641 'Cause I look at the tag teams of that era, 241 00:09:34,641 --> 00:09:37,243 it seems like it was much less... 242 00:09:37,243 --> 00:09:38,311 and maybe I'm just wrong. 243 00:09:38,311 --> 00:09:39,379 It's certainly technique to it, 244 00:09:39,379 --> 00:09:41,281 but also, these tag teams back then, 245 00:09:41,281 --> 00:09:42,549 they were -- it looked like 246 00:09:42,549 --> 00:09:43,950 they were gonna take each other's heads off. 247 00:09:43,950 --> 00:09:47,454 I'm thinking "Steiner Brothers," here, 248 00:09:47,454 --> 00:09:50,323 Dr. Death and Bam Bam Gordy, the "Twin Towers," 249 00:09:50,323 --> 00:09:52,325 like these guys were looking to kill each other. 250 00:09:52,325 --> 00:09:53,726 And the "Sheepherder's," a lot of people 251 00:09:53,726 --> 00:09:55,528 don't know the Bushwackers' a little bit more comedy. 252 00:09:55,528 --> 00:09:57,997 Sheepherders, you guys used to bleed a lot. 253 00:09:57,997 --> 00:10:00,266 Jake, were you happy to be a singles wrestler back then, 254 00:10:00,266 --> 00:10:02,268 watching what these guys were doing to each other? 255 00:10:02,268 --> 00:10:04,003 -Well, I may have been a drug addict, 256 00:10:04,003 --> 00:10:06,172 but I God damn sure wasn't gonna wrestle tag team, 257 00:10:06,172 --> 00:10:07,440 I'll tell you that. 258 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,843 'Cause, uh, you know... 259 00:10:09,843 --> 00:10:11,678 those guys, you're absolutely right. 260 00:10:11,678 --> 00:10:13,880 You have to know what the other guy's thinking 261 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,482 at all times. 262 00:10:15,482 --> 00:10:17,417 And I don't think there's anybody out there 263 00:10:17,417 --> 00:10:20,086 that wants to know what I'm thinking 24/7. 264 00:10:20,086 --> 00:10:22,188 [ Laughter ] 265 00:10:22,188 --> 00:10:25,992 I don't even want to do it, to be quite honest with you. 266 00:10:25,992 --> 00:10:29,496 But I'll tell you something else the tag team has to do. 267 00:10:29,496 --> 00:10:33,233 They have to be unselfish. 268 00:10:33,233 --> 00:10:35,869 That's huge. 269 00:10:35,869 --> 00:10:39,539 They got to be able to give, you know? 270 00:10:39,539 --> 00:10:43,710 And, uh, that's the biggest draw back today, 271 00:10:43,710 --> 00:10:46,145 is these guys aren't great tag teams 272 00:10:46,145 --> 00:10:49,649 because they're not being unselfish. 273 00:10:49,649 --> 00:10:52,085 They're -- They are selfish. Uh... 274 00:10:52,085 --> 00:10:53,419 -Jealousy. 275 00:10:53,419 --> 00:10:55,154 -They want to do the shine part. 276 00:10:55,154 --> 00:10:57,390 They don't want to do the sale part. 277 00:10:57,390 --> 00:10:58,825 Let me tell you something. 278 00:10:58,825 --> 00:11:03,696 If you're gonna be good, you've got to be able to sell. 279 00:11:03,696 --> 00:11:05,465 -Yep, I agree. 280 00:11:05,465 --> 00:11:06,966 -This is a team that when they were right, 281 00:11:06,966 --> 00:11:08,067 were unbeatable. 282 00:11:08,067 --> 00:11:09,702 But as the documentary talks about it, 283 00:11:09,702 --> 00:11:12,171 excessive partying caught up with Hawk. 284 00:11:12,171 --> 00:11:16,109 See another clip from the episode. 285 00:11:16,109 --> 00:11:17,343 -We went to -- 286 00:11:17,343 --> 00:11:20,580 from that London taping to Hershey, Pennsylvania 287 00:11:20,580 --> 00:11:21,681 to do T.V. 288 00:11:21,681 --> 00:11:23,216 And when we got to Hershey, Pennsylvania, 289 00:11:23,216 --> 00:11:24,884 Paul Ellering and I are ready to do T.V., 290 00:11:24,884 --> 00:11:26,586 waiting for Hawk to do interviews. 291 00:11:26,586 --> 00:11:29,656 Well, Hawk hadn't showed up yet. -Nobody knew where Hawk went. 292 00:11:30,657 --> 00:11:31,958 Well, he's just not on the plane. 293 00:11:31,958 --> 00:11:33,459 Nobody knew where Hawk was. 294 00:11:33,459 --> 00:11:34,727 -Got a phone call. 295 00:11:34,727 --> 00:11:37,263 And Hawk called, uh, Vince's secretary and said, 296 00:11:37,263 --> 00:11:38,965 "Hey, I quit." 297 00:11:38,965 --> 00:11:42,368 We're sitting there like, "Okay. Now what am I gonna do?" 298 00:11:42,368 --> 00:11:44,070 -Animal decides he's not gonna 299 00:11:44,070 --> 00:11:46,539 chase after his partner this time. 300 00:11:46,539 --> 00:11:51,044 After performing the role of fixer for so many years. 301 00:11:51,044 --> 00:11:53,780 -I think that I just got the time 302 00:11:53,780 --> 00:11:55,415 to draw the line in the sand. 303 00:11:55,415 --> 00:11:56,749 And, listen, man, 304 00:11:56,749 --> 00:11:58,718 "Shit. I've had enough. That's it. 305 00:11:58,718 --> 00:12:01,054 I'm frickin' done with this." 306 00:12:01,054 --> 00:12:04,490 -When we come back, more with Luke, Jake, and Animal. 307 00:12:04,490 --> 00:12:06,960 This is "Dark Side of the Ring: After Dark." 308 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:13,399 ♪♪ 309 00:12:15,101 --> 00:12:21,407 ♪♪ 310 00:12:21,407 --> 00:12:23,643 -Welcome back to "Dark Side of the Ring After Dark." 311 00:12:23,643 --> 00:12:25,511 I'm Chris Gethard, joined all night 312 00:12:25,511 --> 00:12:26,980 by Jake "The Snake" Roberts, 313 00:12:26,980 --> 00:12:28,381 Road Warrior "Animal," 314 00:12:28,381 --> 00:12:29,582 Bushwhacker Luke. 315 00:12:29,582 --> 00:12:30,917 We're talking about The Road Warriors. 316 00:12:30,917 --> 00:12:32,552 Now, "Dark Side of the Ring" 317 00:12:32,552 --> 00:12:35,154 focuses on dark stories -- it's in the name. 318 00:12:35,154 --> 00:12:38,458 I want to talk about Hawk outside of that stuff, though. 319 00:12:38,458 --> 00:12:41,594 Uh, you know? That wasn't his whole life. 320 00:12:41,594 --> 00:12:44,430 Luke, I hear that you lived with him. 321 00:12:44,430 --> 00:12:49,035 Uh, I-- Something like that. I'd love some stories from that. 322 00:12:49,035 --> 00:12:52,705 -Yeah, well, um, he came down from Minnesota, 323 00:12:52,705 --> 00:12:54,107 where he was cutting a -- 324 00:12:54,107 --> 00:12:56,442 cutting a hole in the ice to fish, 325 00:12:56,442 --> 00:12:59,212 to sunny Florida and on the beaches. 326 00:12:59,212 --> 00:13:02,882 And, uh, he liked it so much, next minute he moved down 327 00:13:02,882 --> 00:13:05,618 and got a condo down the beach from me. 328 00:13:05,618 --> 00:13:07,787 So he was at my home, um, 329 00:13:07,787 --> 00:13:11,090 about five days a week when we weren't on the road. 330 00:13:11,090 --> 00:13:13,993 This was, um, the middle, um... 331 00:13:13,993 --> 00:13:17,630 mid to late, um, 90s. 332 00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:19,966 And that -- And that's how, you know, 333 00:13:19,966 --> 00:13:22,035 we c-- we come very close. 334 00:13:22,035 --> 00:13:25,805 And then, uh -- And that's where the trouble started. 335 00:13:25,805 --> 00:13:27,707 [ Laughter ] -Jake -- 336 00:13:27,707 --> 00:13:28,775 -That's when the trouble -- 337 00:13:28,775 --> 00:13:30,643 we used to go to the gym in the morning 338 00:13:30,643 --> 00:13:34,614 and work out around about 9 -- 9 -- 9 or 10 in the morning, 339 00:13:34,614 --> 00:13:37,650 and then after that, to the beach. 340 00:13:37,650 --> 00:13:39,852 You know, I lived right on the beach. 341 00:13:39,852 --> 00:13:41,888 Had a pool, 10 steps, 342 00:13:41,888 --> 00:13:44,323 and it was in the sand from the pool -- 343 00:13:44,323 --> 00:13:45,692 from the swimming pool. 344 00:13:45,692 --> 00:13:47,860 And then we'd be on the beach. 345 00:13:47,860 --> 00:13:50,663 Of course, we had to have a c-- a couple of coolers there 346 00:13:50,663 --> 00:13:54,167 with the -- the liquor, portable blender. 347 00:13:54,167 --> 00:13:58,571 And, um, sit back, and the day would start. 348 00:13:58,571 --> 00:14:02,008 -So you knew him as just a guy who can kick back on the beach 349 00:14:02,008 --> 00:14:03,943 and have a drink, too. A guy who loves fish. 350 00:14:03,943 --> 00:14:05,111 -Yeah, and we kicked back... -He was also that guy. 351 00:14:05,111 --> 00:14:07,313 -...on the beach, and of course, um, 352 00:14:07,313 --> 00:14:10,683 there was recreational drugs involved. 353 00:14:10,683 --> 00:14:11,984 -There were. 354 00:14:11,984 --> 00:14:14,020 It's -- It's come back around to that, after all. 355 00:14:14,020 --> 00:14:15,822 -How can I say it nicely? Yeah, but -- 356 00:14:15,822 --> 00:14:18,624 Jake, any stories about Hawk jump out -- jumping out to you 357 00:14:18,624 --> 00:14:21,828 that don't necessarily loop back to the partying, to the drugs? 358 00:14:21,828 --> 00:14:23,529 -I'll tell you a good one on Hawk, though. 359 00:14:23,529 --> 00:14:26,566 This was great. This was funny. 360 00:14:26,566 --> 00:14:29,001 We moved in together. 361 00:14:29,001 --> 00:14:32,805 And he -- he tells me, "Don't you ever go in my room. 362 00:14:32,805 --> 00:14:35,775 That's the rule. You got it?" 363 00:14:35,775 --> 00:14:38,244 I'm like, "Yeah, okay. I get it." 364 00:14:38,244 --> 00:14:40,313 So, of course, if you tell me not to, 365 00:14:40,313 --> 00:14:42,515 that means I have to. 366 00:14:42,515 --> 00:14:44,717 You know, that's just the way it is. 367 00:14:44,717 --> 00:14:47,386 Well, at the time, I had a girl living with me. 368 00:14:47,386 --> 00:14:50,256 You might know her as the name of Missy Hyatt. 369 00:14:50,256 --> 00:14:54,627 Missy and I decided we're gonna play a little riddle on Hawk. 370 00:14:54,627 --> 00:14:56,729 So we went into his room. 371 00:14:56,729 --> 00:15:01,501 I had her, uh, get some, uh, cream rinse hair -- 372 00:15:01,501 --> 00:15:04,270 for your hair, you know, cream rinse. 373 00:15:04,270 --> 00:15:07,140 And we squirted some on his pillow. 374 00:15:07,140 --> 00:15:11,644 And then we unscrewed his light bulbs. Okay? 375 00:15:11,644 --> 00:15:14,347 And I had her break off a fingernail 376 00:15:14,347 --> 00:15:16,716 and put it in his bed. 377 00:15:16,716 --> 00:15:19,051 So when he got in bed, he'd lay on that fingernail, 378 00:15:19,051 --> 00:15:22,555 then he'd stick his head on that goo. 379 00:15:22,555 --> 00:15:26,225 And he'd put two and two together. 380 00:15:26,225 --> 00:15:29,328 All that part worked really well. 381 00:15:29,328 --> 00:15:33,499 It's what happened next, I didn't expect. 382 00:15:33,499 --> 00:15:36,169 He didn't knock on my door. 383 00:15:36,169 --> 00:15:39,205 He came through the ----ing door. 384 00:15:39,205 --> 00:15:41,374 The whole goddamn door frame -- 385 00:15:41,374 --> 00:15:42,475 he didn't try to open it, 386 00:15:42,475 --> 00:15:44,644 he just ran right straight through it. 387 00:15:44,644 --> 00:15:48,214 And he jumped on the bed, and he's guzzling me, choking me. 388 00:15:48,214 --> 00:15:50,550 Well, Missy tries to make him stop. 389 00:15:50,550 --> 00:15:54,020 And he just pie faces her, man. 390 00:15:54,020 --> 00:15:56,289 And, uh... 391 00:15:56,289 --> 00:15:59,792 He didn't kill me. That's all I can say. 392 00:15:59,792 --> 00:16:02,028 -Now, Joe, you know him better than anybody. 393 00:16:02,028 --> 00:16:04,230 When you think of a story about Hawk 394 00:16:04,230 --> 00:16:07,834 that's outside of the things we hear about the documentary, 395 00:16:07,834 --> 00:16:09,468 what comes to mind? 396 00:16:09,468 --> 00:16:12,572 -You know, first and foremost, I want to make it clear to you, 397 00:16:12,572 --> 00:16:14,774 Hawk was the kind of guy, 398 00:16:14,774 --> 00:16:18,544 he would give you the shirt off your back if you needed it. 399 00:16:18,544 --> 00:16:19,979 The greatest guy. 400 00:16:19,979 --> 00:16:22,715 I'll never forget the one time we're in New York City, 401 00:16:22,715 --> 00:16:24,050 and we walk by -- 402 00:16:24,050 --> 00:16:26,352 and we're doing our first big photo shoot in New York -- 403 00:16:26,352 --> 00:16:29,088 and, uh, we walk by, and there's a-a whino -- 404 00:16:29,088 --> 00:16:31,490 there's pictures all over the magazines with it -- 405 00:16:31,490 --> 00:16:33,526 a whino sitting on a street corner. 406 00:16:33,526 --> 00:16:35,628 And, like, you can tell the guy's down and out. 407 00:16:35,628 --> 00:16:38,631 He's not had a bath, shower, probably food 408 00:16:38,631 --> 00:16:40,833 the l-- in the last little last year. 409 00:16:40,833 --> 00:16:44,270 And Hawk goes, "Hey, Adam. Well, I ain't got any money. 410 00:16:44,270 --> 00:16:46,873 Give me 100 bucks." 411 00:16:46,873 --> 00:16:49,208 And well, you know, and I give Mike 100 bucks 412 00:16:49,208 --> 00:16:51,577 and he give it to the whino, and the man -- 413 00:16:51,577 --> 00:16:54,513 The way Mike's heart was, 414 00:16:54,513 --> 00:16:57,850 I mean, the guy -- the whino guy just started crying. 415 00:16:57,850 --> 00:17:00,453 You know, so, of course, he makes me feel bad, 416 00:17:00,453 --> 00:17:02,154 so I had to dig another $100 and give him $100. 417 00:17:02,154 --> 00:17:05,758 Seriously, the guy had 200 ba-- 200 bucks, he never took a bump. 418 00:17:05,758 --> 00:17:07,426 You know? So... -Yeah. 419 00:17:07,426 --> 00:17:09,095 -Yeah, but it was a, you know, 420 00:17:09,095 --> 00:17:10,429 that's the kind of guy Mike was, man. 421 00:17:10,429 --> 00:17:11,931 Mike was just that kind of guy. 422 00:17:11,931 --> 00:17:13,432 -That's good to hear. -And he was very protective. 423 00:17:13,432 --> 00:17:15,067 -Yep. -If he -- If he liked you 424 00:17:15,067 --> 00:17:17,370 or loved you, bro, he was protective. 425 00:17:17,370 --> 00:17:18,905 -It's really great to hear about that side of him, too. 426 00:17:18,905 --> 00:17:20,706 -You couldn't talk bad about friends, about his family. 427 00:17:20,706 --> 00:17:23,175 Yeah. Couldn't talk bad about a family, friends, nobody. 428 00:17:23,175 --> 00:17:24,577 -Yeah. 429 00:17:24,577 --> 00:17:26,679 -Really amazing to hear 430 00:17:26,679 --> 00:17:27,914 about the many different sides of him, 431 00:17:27,914 --> 00:17:29,715 not just the one from the doc. 432 00:17:29,715 --> 00:17:32,451 When we get back, we got more with our powerhouse panel, 433 00:17:32,451 --> 00:17:35,988 plus a sneak peek of next week's "Dark Side of the Ring," 434 00:17:35,988 --> 00:17:37,590 deals with the very tragic death 435 00:17:37,590 --> 00:17:39,759 of one of the greatest of all time, Owen Hart. 436 00:17:39,759 --> 00:17:42,828 We'll be right back on "Dark Side of the Ring: After Dark." 437 00:17:42,828 --> 00:17:49,302 ♪♪ 438 00:17:51,003 --> 00:17:56,142 ♪♪ 439 00:17:56,142 --> 00:17:58,644 -Welcome back to "Dark Side of the Ring After Dark." 440 00:17:58,644 --> 00:18:01,347 I'm Chris Gether. I still cannot believe the panel 441 00:18:01,347 --> 00:18:02,915 I am being allowed to talk to tonight. 442 00:18:02,915 --> 00:18:05,584 We got Jake "The Snake" Roberts, Road Warrior "Animal," 443 00:18:05,584 --> 00:18:06,719 "Bushwhacker" Luke Williams. 444 00:18:06,719 --> 00:18:09,188 Now, Luke, in the break, you said there's a story 445 00:18:09,188 --> 00:18:12,191 about you and Hawk in -- and Puerto Rico. 446 00:18:12,191 --> 00:18:14,493 -So we brought Hawk down to Puerto Rico. 447 00:18:14,493 --> 00:18:16,896 And that was the second anniversary. 448 00:18:16,896 --> 00:18:18,197 When he got down there, I had -- 449 00:18:18,197 --> 00:18:20,533 I was on the phone there to him, but I booked him. 450 00:18:20,533 --> 00:18:23,169 I said, "Hawk, you come down, 451 00:18:23,169 --> 00:18:25,338 but you've got to speak -- stay clean -- 452 00:18:25,338 --> 00:18:26,806 be clean, and stay clean." 453 00:18:26,806 --> 00:18:31,043 He says, "I haven't touched anything for 60 days." 454 00:18:31,043 --> 00:18:34,313 Well, it was a four-day show, four-day weekend. 455 00:18:34,313 --> 00:18:36,983 Anyhow, get to the end of the tour, 456 00:18:36,983 --> 00:18:42,054 by then he was -- look like he'd been in a war. 457 00:18:42,054 --> 00:18:43,656 You -- Been in a war. 458 00:18:43,656 --> 00:18:45,291 When he got home to Dale -- 459 00:18:45,291 --> 00:18:47,860 when he got back to Dale, Florida, 460 00:18:47,860 --> 00:18:48,961 she'd looked at him, 461 00:18:48,961 --> 00:18:50,863 and said, "What the hell happened to you?" 462 00:18:50,863 --> 00:18:54,100 And he says, "Oh, it's real down there. It's a lot of work. 463 00:18:54,100 --> 00:18:56,502 It's real." He had a black eye. 464 00:18:56,502 --> 00:18:59,305 He had burns on his forehead where they used, 465 00:18:59,305 --> 00:19:01,140 some of the guys, to put their cigarets out 466 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:04,243 on his forehead -- out on his forehead, everything. 467 00:19:04,243 --> 00:19:05,911 -Really crazy -- -And he'd sit there, 468 00:19:05,911 --> 00:19:07,980 and you'd hear the sizzle of his flesh. 469 00:19:07,980 --> 00:19:09,615 And I was telling him, "Stop that." 470 00:19:09,615 --> 00:19:11,550 But he said, "What can you do?" 471 00:19:11,550 --> 00:19:14,620 When Hawk goes, he goes all the way. 472 00:19:14,620 --> 00:19:16,422 -Yeah. -Boy, this guy's got -- 473 00:19:16,422 --> 00:19:17,957 such a lovable guy. 474 00:19:17,957 --> 00:19:19,458 He's got a great heart. 475 00:19:19,458 --> 00:19:21,894 If he's your friend, he's like your brother. 476 00:19:21,894 --> 00:19:24,630 If someone says something nasty to you, 477 00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:27,867 he comes in front of you and takes care of business. 478 00:19:27,867 --> 00:19:31,003 You know, if you need anything, he's right there. 479 00:19:31,003 --> 00:19:32,872 If he loves you, he's right there 480 00:19:32,872 --> 00:19:34,306 and he'll do anything for you. 481 00:19:34,306 --> 00:19:35,574 He kind of -- 482 00:19:35,574 --> 00:19:39,345 But when -- when he's like that, you can't stop him. 483 00:19:39,345 --> 00:19:42,915 If something's -- If some person says he's done this much, 484 00:19:42,915 --> 00:19:44,717 Hawk says, "Well -- Well look at this. 485 00:19:44,717 --> 00:19:46,519 Whoa, look at this." 486 00:19:46,519 --> 00:19:48,320 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. [ Inhales twice ] 487 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,790 Everything. And then he's -- 488 00:19:50,790 --> 00:19:52,024 Just no stopping him. -Yeah, there was no -- 489 00:19:52,024 --> 00:19:54,326 There was no, uh, no second or third gear, man. 490 00:19:54,326 --> 00:19:57,029 It was his balls out, 24/7. 491 00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:58,597 -Overdrive. -Now -- 492 00:19:58,597 --> 00:20:01,367 -Overdrive. You're right, man, overdrive. 493 00:20:01,367 --> 00:20:02,935 -Since I got you guys here, 494 00:20:02,935 --> 00:20:05,104 the wrestling nerd in me I keep mentioning, 495 00:20:05,104 --> 00:20:08,908 I feel like the era that you guys were wrestling in 496 00:20:08,908 --> 00:20:10,910 was a golden age of tag team wrestling. 497 00:20:10,910 --> 00:20:12,611 Would it be okay with you -- I just want to throw out 498 00:20:12,611 --> 00:20:14,747 the names of some of the other teams out there 499 00:20:14,747 --> 00:20:17,817 that had these battles that looked so brutal. 500 00:20:17,817 --> 00:20:19,318 just one sentence, 501 00:20:19,318 --> 00:20:21,187 what you think of facing off with them. 502 00:20:21,187 --> 00:20:22,788 Would that be cool, Joe? 503 00:20:22,788 --> 00:20:24,323 -Sure. 504 00:20:24,323 --> 00:20:26,258 Road Warriors versus the Steiner Brothers, 505 00:20:26,258 --> 00:20:27,960 what's it like in that ring? 506 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,463 -Dog eat dog, man. You got to fight to survive. 507 00:20:30,463 --> 00:20:32,164 'Cause if you turn your back and just don't -- 508 00:20:32,164 --> 00:20:34,700 if you you're not looking at the Steiner Brothers eye to eye, 509 00:20:34,700 --> 00:20:37,470 they're gonna snatch you and throw you. 510 00:20:37,470 --> 00:20:39,238 -Suplex City! -The "Nasty Boys" -- 511 00:20:39,238 --> 00:20:42,274 The N-- "Nasty Boys," known to be legit tough guys, 512 00:20:42,274 --> 00:20:43,742 beat up Ken Shamrock. 513 00:20:43,742 --> 00:20:46,378 What's that -- What's it like in there with the Nasty Boys? 514 00:20:46,378 --> 00:20:48,814 -We had great matches with the Nasty Boys, man. 515 00:20:48,814 --> 00:20:50,449 Na-- Nasty Boys were probably one of 516 00:20:50,449 --> 00:20:52,952 the most underrated tag teams in our business. 517 00:20:52,952 --> 00:20:56,889 And, uh, they were tough. They were tough. They were big. 518 00:20:56,889 --> 00:20:59,391 They both were like 320 pounds. 519 00:20:59,391 --> 00:21:02,561 They were big, hu-- big, mass of humanity in the ring. 520 00:21:02,561 --> 00:21:04,063 -Alright, I want to thank everybody 521 00:21:04,063 --> 00:21:05,131 for being with us tonight. 522 00:21:05,131 --> 00:21:06,265 But before we go, 523 00:21:06,265 --> 00:21:08,634 a sneak peek at the next "Dark Side of the Ring." 524 00:21:08,634 --> 00:21:11,070 This one focuses on the life and tragic death 525 00:21:11,070 --> 00:21:12,304 of a wrestling superstar 526 00:21:12,304 --> 00:21:14,974 from one of wrestling's most prominent families. 527 00:21:14,974 --> 00:21:18,210 I'm talking, of course, about the late, great Owen Hart. 528 00:21:18,210 --> 00:21:20,146 Take a look. 529 00:21:20,146 --> 00:21:22,915 -I remember hanging out with Owen that day. 530 00:21:22,915 --> 00:21:26,051 We talked about the match. We talked about the finish. 531 00:21:26,051 --> 00:21:27,486 Just normal stuff, hanging out. 532 00:21:27,486 --> 00:21:29,021 We were sitting in the arena, 533 00:21:29,021 --> 00:21:30,389 and he said that he was getting ready 534 00:21:30,389 --> 00:21:32,158 to practice one of the things. 535 00:21:32,158 --> 00:21:35,027 And he did that, and I watched him. 536 00:21:35,027 --> 00:21:36,929 -I had a feeling that day that Owen was not 537 00:21:36,929 --> 00:21:40,533 his normal, exuberant, enthusiastic self 538 00:21:40,533 --> 00:21:42,368 about what he was doing that night. 539 00:21:42,368 --> 00:21:43,936 And I remember saying something about, you know, 540 00:21:43,936 --> 00:21:45,971 "Better you than me. I don't like heights." 541 00:21:45,971 --> 00:21:47,273 He said, "I don't either." 542 00:21:47,273 --> 00:21:49,241 I think that he was a little concerned. 543 00:21:49,241 --> 00:21:50,943 And look, he's the one that's got to do it. 544 00:21:50,943 --> 00:21:52,511 There's nobody that can do for him. 545 00:21:52,511 --> 00:21:53,946 There's no stunt double. 546 00:21:53,946 --> 00:21:55,414 There's a couple little things he said, 547 00:21:55,414 --> 00:21:57,983 and maybe more specific, what he didn't say 548 00:21:57,983 --> 00:22:02,888 led me to believe that he's not totally down with this thing. 549 00:22:02,888 --> 00:22:05,090 -I cannot thank my panel enough. 550 00:22:05,090 --> 00:22:07,126 Luke, thank you for being here. 551 00:22:07,126 --> 00:22:09,328 Jake "The Snake," what an honor. 552 00:22:09,328 --> 00:22:11,297 "Animal," Joe -- -Whoa, whoa. 553 00:22:11,297 --> 00:22:12,665 -Can -- Can we say -- Can -- 554 00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:15,067 Can I just get a "What a rush"? I know it's Hawk's thing. 555 00:22:15,067 --> 00:22:17,736 -In memory of Hawk, bro, I'll do as best I can. 556 00:22:17,736 --> 00:22:22,241 [ Groaning ] Ooooooh, what a rush! 557 00:22:22,241 --> 00:22:25,010 -That's all I wanted. Stay safe out there, everybody. 558 00:22:25,010 --> 00:22:26,345 We'll see you next time. 559 00:22:26,345 --> 00:22:32,985 ♪♪