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[brass band plays "Silent Night" outside]

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[Warren] Thank you,
but I don't need any help.

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- I don't mind.
- No, I know.

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We're on different sides.
We shouldn't really.

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I just needed to get out of there,
to be honest. Get some air.

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It hasn't even started yet.

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That's what I'm saying.
What's it going to be like when it does?

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I mean... she's a bit of a tough cookie.

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Which one?

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- [machine whirring]
- [pouring drink]

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What's all this in aid of, then?

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This tight, white shirt business.
Who's it for?

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Someone through there, is it?

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Through the funny mirror?

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This what she like, is it?
Dressing for the boys?

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"Sorry, lads. Look. Don't touch."

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"But don't look 'cos that's sexist."
"Yeah, I know." I see!

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- Stacey.
- She don't fool me.

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Unless it's for my benefit, of course.

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But I don't think so. I know a dyke
when I see one. That's not you.

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- Stacey, can you...
- Not with them fingernails.

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Sorry, love, I'm interrupting. Go on.

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Stacey...

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calm down.

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If you wanted me to be calm, you wouldn't
have brought me in here, would you?

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Whatever this is,

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whatever you've got it in your head
that I'm supposed to have done,

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you'd better have it all thought through.

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Because there are people out there

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that would not take kindly
to you trying to fit me up.

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- No one's trying to fit you up, Stacey.
- I feel sorry for you, is the truth.

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This...

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If this is going
where I think it's going...

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then I worry for you.

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These are not people I can control.

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Here's an idea, Stacey,

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why don't we do the interview first,

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and if there's time at the end,
you can make your threats.

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How does that sound?

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Stop playing to the gallery. There's
no one on the other side of that glass.

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Not today.

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- [Duffy] What was that about, fingernails?
- [Tony] Sit down, Hugo.

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Right...

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here we go.

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[beeping]

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[door buzzing]

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Thank you.

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[tense music playing]

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[Tony] Oh.

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Did you book the table?

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Uh, yeah. Seven for seven.

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Good man.

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- [audio recorder beeps]
- [Hobbs] <i>Interview commences at 4:44 p.m.</i>

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<i>Detectives Hobbs and Warren present.</i>

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[Warren] OK, Stacey, if you could state
your full name for me.

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Stacey Doyle.

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- And your date of birth.
- June 18th, '82.

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- And do you know why you're here?
- No.

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- You know who it's regarding?
- No.

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I'm guessing it's about Roderick,
from what you've been saying,

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but what that's got to do with me...
your guess is as good as mine.

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Better than mine.

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We're here, Stacey...

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because in the early hours
of the 7th of December,

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that's Friday just gone,

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officers were called
to the Peabody Flats in Olympia,

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following reports of a disturbance
at the home of a Roderick Samuels.

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Yeah, Roderick. That's who I said.

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When entering the property,
they discovered Mr Samuels

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lying in the hallway
in a semi-comatose state.

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He's now in Charing Cross Hospital
in a fully comatose state.

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The victim of thallium poisoning.
Are you familiar with thallium?

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Thallium's rat poison.
It's colourless, odourless, tasteless.

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Roderick consumed
just short of half a pint of thallium

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on the night of the 7th.

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His situation is critical.

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If he dies, we will be treating this
as a murder inquiry.

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And if we prove the person
who administered the poison

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is the person we think it is,

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then that person, Stacey,
faces life in prison.

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Do you understand?

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Does that give you a better idea
of why you're here?

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- [high-pitched whining]
- [eerie music playing]

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- You know Roderick?
- Yeah.

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Do you like him?

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He's alright.

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He goes out with Mary, doesn't he?
Mary, my sister.

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And they live together
at the Peabody flat?

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Well, they do now.
It was hers to begin with, not his.

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She'd been the one on the list.
He romanced his way in.

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- He's a charmer?
- [Stacey] Mmm.

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He can be.

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How would you describe him?

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Big, black...

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and elegant.

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Stands in the corner of the room
at parties, like a grand piano.

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So you admit
you've been round to his flat?

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- Say that again, sorry.
- You admit you've been round to the flat.

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No, don't say words like that, like
"admit," like I've done something wrong.

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- All I meant...
- No, it doesn't matter what you meant.

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- It's the way you spin it. Is she new?
- Let me rephrase the question for you.

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- Have you been to Roderick Samuel's flat?
- 'Course.

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Thank you.

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When was the last time
you went to see him?

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No. See? Again.

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I never go round to see him, do I?
I go round to see Mary.

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There's a difference.
Yeah, an important difference.

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- Why?
- I know what you guys are like.

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- And if she isn't in?
- [Stacey] What? Who's this now?

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- Mary.
- She's always in.

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And if she ain't, I wait.
I have a drink with him, with Roderick.

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So that's what we do.
Wait until she comes back.

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Back from...

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From wherever she's been, mate.
Bloody hell.

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And this happens regularly?
You and Roderick, drinking together?

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Listen to what I'm saying.

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Both of you.
She's catching it off you now.

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The way you described it, sounds like
it's happened more than once.

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All I'm saying is that if she ain't in
for whatever reason,

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then me and him,
we'll sit down and we'll have a drink,

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'cos that's what he likes to do
with an evening.

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This is the evening
that you're talking about?

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How much does he like to drink?

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- Roderick?
- Roderick.

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A 50-year-old black bloke from the flats
in Olympia. He drinks whatever he can get.

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- So it's a problem?
- Not for him. For him, it's a solution.

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Maybe that's it.

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Maybe he got himself so pissed up,
he drank this poison stuff himself.

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Think about it.

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You hear stories, don't you?

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People drinking
whatever they can get their hands on.

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Turpentine, all sorts.

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Rat poison?

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Go on, then.

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Write that on your little pad.

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[ping]

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[echoing footsteps]

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- [machine whirring]
- [drink pouring]

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[Hobbs] <i>Mary, your sister,
gave us a statement</i>

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<i>in which she explains that she's been
in Kent for six weeks, in Ashford.</i>

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- [Stacey] <i>If you say so.</i>
- [Hobbs] <i>No, she says so, not me.</i>

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<i>In the paragraph
Vanessa has highlighted for you there.</i>

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<i>She said she called you,
told you where she was going</i>

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<i>and arranged for you to feed her cat.</i>

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<i>That's correct, isn't it?</i>

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- [Stacey] <i>I'll take your word for it.</i>
- [Hobbs] <i>Or is she lying?</i>

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[Stacey] <i>I just said,
I'll take your word for it.</i>

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<i>Jesus...</i>

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[Hobbs] <i>Mary's statement
is corroborated by the neighbors.</i>

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Kyle Petit.

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[Hobbs] <i>They don't remember seeing much
of Mary over the past month or so.</i>

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But they do remember seeing you.
Several of them, and on several occasions.

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That will be you coming over
to feed the cat, presumably.

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Or maybe just tell us what you were doing
at the victim's home

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in the middle of the night,
as three witnesses claim.

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[lawyer clears throat]

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Now, at this point, I'd just like
to repeat what I said before.

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<i>Which is that you mustn't feel
like you have to answer...</i>

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Did you book the table at the Thai place?

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Why do people assume
it's me who books the table?

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[lawyer] <i>...despite what detectives
might allow you to believe.</i>

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Did you, though?

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[lawyer] <i>I'd also like to remind you
that my client...</i>

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Yes.

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...and by law
she must be afforded regular breaks.

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Now she's keen to talk to you.
I think we can all see that.

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But let's work together on this. Hmm?

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How have you been, Jeremy?
I haven't had a chance to ask.

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- Fine, thank you.
- Good.

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Uh, Jeremy was in earlier this year,

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representing a man
who exposed himself in Bishops Park.

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- The sunbather.
- [Hobbs] Hmm.

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That's right.

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The New Year's Day Sunbather.

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<i>But you're right, we should press on,
providing Stacey's happy.</i>

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- Happy? [scoffs]
- [Hobbs] Well, willing.

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- [Stacey chuckles]
- [Hobbs] Excellent.

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Because what I'm about to say to you now
will change the course of this interview,

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and while I don't think you honestly
believe you're going to leave

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without being charged for
the attempted murder of Roderick Samuels,

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I do think you'll be surprised
by how soon your arguments fall down,

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and how quickly that charge
is brought about.

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So I want you to listen very carefully
to the next thing I say.

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We're not here today to work out
if you poisoned Roderick Samuels or not.

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- We know you did... Listen, listen.
- [clicks tongue]

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Just sit back in your chair
and wait for me to finish speaking.

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[ominous music playing]

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We know you did.
And we can prove you did.

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[breathes deeply]

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You don't have proof.

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I'm saying we do.

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You don't have the first idea.

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I'm telling you we do, and that
this is your opportunity to talk.

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[Stacey tapping foot]

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- You are under no obligation...
- The night of the 7th, Stacey.

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[Stacey chuckles]

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[ominous music intensifies]

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[clicking]

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[whispers] <i>All gone a bit quiet.</i>

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Suit yourselves.

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Alright, look, I like a drink.

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And Roderick likes a drink.

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So if I'm going over there
to feed the cat or whatever,

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we'll have a few at his and Mary's.

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So that's what might have happened.

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- "Might have happened"?
- Happened. That's what happened.

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But that doesn't mean that...

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'Cos I know how it might look.

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Like, people saw me.

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I know how you'll twist it.
How she will twist it.

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So I come out the tube, turn left,

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stop at the shop
at the corner of Kenway Road.

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I got him his whisky.
There's a type of whisky he likes.

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Mary asked me to pick it up for him
while she was away.

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I went round and I'm expecting him
to be on his own.

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But then she answers the door. Mary.

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<i>And I'm like, "Well..."</i>

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<i>"Talk about a wasted journey!
And all that.</i>

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<i>Like, feed your own flaming cat.
Know what I mean?</i>

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<i>Like, get your own fucking whisky.
What, did your last slave die of?"</i>

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But, uh, this... None of that matters,

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because the thing is, well...

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Mary...

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Uh...

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Her face is all blown up.

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It's all fat.

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It's blue.

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He's gone and beaten her right up.

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But she won't let us talk
about any of that, will she, Mary?

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She just says, "Oh! Come inside."
You know, so...

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[clears throat] So we go inside,

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and he's just... sitting in the corner
where he usually sits.

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They've been watching football
like nothing's happened.

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And all he does is, he turns to me
and says, "Did you get it?"

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Meaning the whisky. And all I do is, I...

236
00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,800
'Cos I'm so angry
and I'm still in shock,

237
00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,640
and all I do is nod.

238
00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,320
Like a bloody idiot.

239
00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,280
Well, he says...

240
00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,720
"Mary's going to bed in a bit,
aren't you, Mary?"

241
00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,520
He's not asking her, he's telling her.

242
00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,280
"Get us a couple of glasses
and we'll have a few."

243
00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,520
So Mary does what she's told.

244
00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,640
And I go into the kitchen
and I'm looking around.

245
00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,840
And I think...

246
00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:49,960
<i>And I think..</i>

247
00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,400
<i>I think...</i>

248
00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,240
What do you think, Stacey?

249
00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,080
[soft music playing]

250
00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,640
- This might be a good time...
- I think, "I'm not having this.

251
00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,120
I'm not having this.
That's my sister."

252
00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,040
So, uh... I'm in the kitchen.

253
00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:36,640
<i>And I reach up on top of the fridge,
and get down the poison, the rat poison.</i>

254
00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,360
And, erm, I pour myself a whisky...

255
00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,720
top the bottle back up with the poison,
and put the lid back on.

256
00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,720
I slosh it around a bit
and then I take it through.

257
00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,840
And I watch him
drink and drink, until it's, erm...

258
00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,280
until it's done.

259
00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,160
Until the match is finished.

260
00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,480
Until he's on his knees
on the carpet in front of the sofa.

261
00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,760
And he's, like, all chokey and spluttery,

262
00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,160
and he's, you know,
trying to tell me something's wrong.

263
00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,840
"I know something's fucking wrong, mate.
You fucking deserve it, quite frankly."

264
00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,000
Because he does fucking deserve it,
doesn't he?

265
00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:17,760
So, erm...

266
00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,840
I just get up, I just leave him there.

267
00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,080
Turn up the TV, and, erm...

268
00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,280
go into Mary's room.

269
00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,360
And then we just get into bed...

270
00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,640
just lying there for a bit.

271
00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,280
We haven't done since we were little.

272
00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,440
And, erm...

273
00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,040
in the morning,
we come out of her bedroom.

274
00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,680
<i>And we find him,
he's still breathing, just.</i>

275
00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:57,960
<i>So...</i>

276
00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,200
<i>I just step over him.</i>

277
00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,440
<i>And we go.</i>

278
00:17:19,120 --> 00:17:20,800
Does that answer your question?

279
00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,360
[Tony] Detective?

280
00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,280
Paul's stone just beat my scissors,

281
00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:42,800
meaning I'm the one that has
to follow you up the corridor and ask...

282
00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,200
who you are.

283
00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,280
- I am Detective Constable Kyle Petit.
- And why you're really here.

284
00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:53,560
Only, you just appear like this
and we're not quite sure how.

285
00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,240
- That's OK.
- Or why.

286
00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:57,880
That's OK.

287
00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:03,120
It's like I think I told you.
I'm here as part of my tier five training.

288
00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,560
Practicing and learning
interview technique.

289
00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,000
If it helps you to receive feedback,

290
00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,640
I found what just happened
in there very inspiring.

291
00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,960
I think it's fantastic
how you've overcome the criticisms

292
00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,120
leveled at you
after the Edgar Fallon interview.

293
00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,960
I thought most stuff people were saying
about you was unfair, to be honest.

294
00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,560
Especially as you got the result. I mean,

295
00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,760
in the end,
that's the name of the game, right?

296
00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,840
Enjoy your Christmas meal.

297
00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,880
And if you're feeling awkward
about not inviting me, don't.

298
00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:38,360
We've only just started working together.

299
00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:52,480
- [eerie music playing]
- [indistinct police chatter on radio]

300
00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,960
Ladies, the time is now 6:30.

301
00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,440
Meaning we can have a swift one
at the Rose

302
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,320
before our Christmas Thai nosh-up.

303
00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,560
<i>Is that Paul Ottager?</i>

304
00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,480
[Duffy] It is, and he's got a new jacket.

305
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,400
<i>Have they gone?</i>

306
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,120
<i>I think so.</i>

307
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,800
<i>How do we think that went?</i>

308
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,160
<i>We did well.</i>

309
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,880
<i>- Hmm...
- Didn't we?</i>

310
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,520
Claire, listen. Relax.

311
00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:44,320
Relax. I'll just tell him I'm driving.

312
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,200
[brass band playing outside]

313
00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:52,760
[Duffy] Go on, then.
What's the new lad's story?

314
00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,200
He stuck to his guns.
Said he was here for the training.

315
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,880
I didn't like him.
He was too... What's the word?

316
00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:01,160
Nice.

317
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,480
He said this really funny thing, he said,

318
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,480
"We've only just started working together.

319
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,360
Now we're never going
to be working apart ever again."

320
00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:11,560
Finally!

321
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,440
She wants five.

322
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,200
[Tony sighs]

323
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,760
We did that interview
in the best way we know how.

324
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,120
We went by the book and we got a result.

325
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,560
But Vanessa and I...

326
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,360
We think something about it
just doesn't feel right.

327
00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:40,840
- She confessed.
- [Warren] You weren't in there, Paul.

328
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,000
No, I was sitting right there
and I watched you do an amazing job.

329
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:46,480
Both of you.

330
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,640
Look, I know I'm only here
for the Christmas meal,

331
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,280
but I'd say the same if I'd been
on this with you from the start.

332
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,200
You cannot run this on a feeling.

333
00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,320
What happens in here
can never be about that.

334
00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:04,240
At least wait for Roderick to wake up
and ask him.

335
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,600
Well, he can't have known
who spiked his drink.

336
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,920
Tony?

337
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:15,960
[sucks teeth]

338
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,360
Well, you still haven't charged her.
The interview is technically suspended.

339
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:22,840
We could just be on a break.

340
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,280
- [Hobbs] Can we get the solicitor back?
- We can try.

341
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,280
[ping]

342
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:43,560
[ominous music playing]

343
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,320
- No!
- Stacey...

344
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,120
No, I am sorry.
I've given you what you wanted.

345
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,240
I've said what I've needed to say,
which is hard enough, so no. No comment.

346
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,680
Fine, then I'll speak.
We need to get this right, Stacey.

347
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,000
I told you what happened.

348
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,400
There's no coming back in here.
Not after we press charges.

349
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,120
You said to me, Stacey,
before we started recording,

350
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,880
that I was wearing this white shirt
to impress my male colleagues.

351
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:19,240
<i>You said you knew that's what I was doing,
in the way only a woman knows.</i>

352
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,360
Well, we've listened to your story,
Vanessa and I,

353
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,800
and we don't think it rings true.

354
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,640
A lot of it probably is true.
Large parts of it, I'm sure.

355
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,000
But I don't think
you poisoned Roderick Samuels.

356
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,920
- I think you'll find I did.
- Prove it.

357
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,720
- What?
- Yes. What?

358
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:40,800
Prove it.

359
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,360
Tell me something that proves
it must have been you.

360
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,560
You said you had proof.
You made a big thing of it.

361
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,360
Well, go on then.

362
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,760
- Sorry?
- Out with it.

363
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,080
She's saying she thinks
this might be a good moment

364
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,840
to read out your so-called proof.

365
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,600
I don't disagree.

366
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,120
[Warren and lawyer clear throats]

367
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,280
We have CCTV of you buying the rat poison

368
00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:09,640
at the shop on Kenway Road
on the night of the 7th,

369
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,440
at the same time as you bought whisky.

370
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,000
We have traces of the same poison
on your cardigan.

371
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,800
We have your lipstick and fingerprints

372
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,840
on a glass found on a coffee table
at the scene.

373
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,840
A glass which you admit was yours
and did not contain traces of thallium.

374
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,720
We have three witnesses who saw you
arriving at the Peabody Flats

375
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,160
at 2:00 a.m. on the night
that Roderick was poisoned.

376
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,400
They were woken by you banging angrily
with your fists on Roderick's front door.

377
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,600
One of them even heard you saying,

378
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,200
"I'll kill you, you black monster.

379
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,440
<i>I'll fucking kill you."</i>

380
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:46,960
Right.

381
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,640
Thank you.
Now can I go and smoke that, please?

382
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,320
- Wait, you were calling that proof?
- What we're saying...

383
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,120
I know you were calling it proof earlier,
but for my own sense of sanity...

384
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,576
- What we're saying...
- [Jeremy] Yes?

385
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,520
We are simply saying
what you and I both know to be true:

386
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,440
this is the kind of evidence that would
see the CPS agree to press charges.

387
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,840
And should it then go to trial,
it would, beyond reasonable doubt,

388
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,880
link Stacey with the attempted murder
of Roderick Samuels.

389
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,480
That's almost the same thing,
but it's not proof.

390
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,280
Jeremy, please listen to me, because
for once we're on the same side here.

391
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,000
What I am putting to Stacey now

392
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,000
is that despite
the overwhelming evidence to the contrary,

393
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,840
and despite
your detailed and emotional confession,

394
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,680
I do not believe that we have reached
the correct outcome in this case.

395
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,000
- Which is ridiculous.
- Which is ridiculous, I agree.

396
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,240
<i>Not least because it puts
my career on the line,</i>

397
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,680
<i>and Roderick's chances of justice
under threat.</i>

398
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:43,480
You were right, Stacey.

399
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,680
My colleague Tony is sitting behind
that glass, guiding me through this.

400
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,960
<i>No doubt with a very concerned look
on his face.</i>

401
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,760
I'm not even sure if this is police work
I'm doing now, Stacey.

402
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:01,920
I'm just...

403
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,960
As one of my colleagues said to me
just now, I'm running on feelings.

404
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,480
About you. About men.

405
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,480
About who we are,

406
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,760
women like us, in their world.

407
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,040
And it is theirs, isn't it?

408
00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:23,320
See, I think there's
something more to this.

409
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:26,960
Something worse.

410
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,680
Truer than confessing.

411
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,080
And that's why we're back in here.

412
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,480
So, in a second,

413
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,040
I'm going to hand over to Vanessa.

414
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,840
I'm going to ask her
to ask you one remaining question.

415
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,160
And if I've got this wrong,
then I genuinely apologise.

416
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,680
How long were you sleeping
with Roderick Samuels?

417
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:26,400
[tense music playing]

418
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,720
Talk to me, Stacey.

419
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,160
- [mumbles] We weren't, anymore.
- I can't hear you.

420
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:55,320
You asked me
if I was sleeping with Roderick.

421
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,520
And you said?

422
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,960
I said I weren't anymore.

423
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,480
'Cos I wasn't.

424
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:07,120
That's the answer to your question.

425
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,600
And why do you think I asked?

426
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,480
[quietly] Because I'm ashamed of it.

427
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,120
You promise me something.

428
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,520
Promise you'll put in your notes,
or however you do it,

429
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,880
that I never came in here
wanting to say any of this.

430
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,800
Everything is on the record.

431
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,360
OK, look...

432
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,920
As I said, I like a drink.

433
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,760
<i>And Roderick likes a drink.</i>

434
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,200
<i>That's how we met in The Nelson, the pub.</i>

435
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,160
Not that I was on the lookout,
because I'm married.

436
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,520
Not happily, but that's not the point.

437
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,560
So when I meet him...
I fancy him and all that, but, erm...

438
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,680
It's just friendly. It's nothing else.

439
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,400
But Mary, well, she never put herself
out there, not with men.

440
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,760
Just... never had the confidence.

441
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,720
She might be 33
but she's still my sister, so...

442
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,280
I'm like,

443
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,160
"There's this fella I know.
You should meet him.

444
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,200
I think you'll be good together."

445
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,280
'Cos I did, at the time.
That's what I thought.

446
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,480
Before anyone knows what's happening
she's asked him to move in with her.

447
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,080
At the Peabody flat?

448
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,480
Yeah, that's right.

449
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,400
Uh, you know, I'm round there
from time to time.

450
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,040
A lot of time.

451
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,640
And me and him, well, we get on,
like at The Nelson,

452
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,480
in a way that Mary, bless her heart,
she can't join in with.

453
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,120
So, you know...

454
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:05,880
[clicks tongue]

455
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,720
...before you know it, I'm round at Mary's
whether Mary's there or not.

456
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,120
And, uh...

457
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,640
one thing leads to another and, uh...

458
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,400
me and him, we've started something.

459
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,360
'Cos my life's lost its sparkle.

460
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,240
And it's been carrying on
for some time. Months.

461
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,360
I'm not proud of myself,

462
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,480
but I'm happy, 'cos...

463
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,920
Well, I'm convincing myself she's alright
with it, or that she's none the wiser.

464
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,760
And he's like a pig in shit, isn't he?

465
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,600
He's got me and Mary where he wants us.

466
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,120
Mary's running round,
picking up for him 24-7,

467
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,520
and if she don't do what he wants,

468
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,120
or does it, but not in a way
he wants it, then...

469
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,600
And if he's had some of the whisky
that I've brought

470
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,480
like an idiot,
because I can't stay away, like...

471
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,320
she gets it. Like...

472
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,680
He's physical.

473
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,480
That's what's going on.

474
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,320
I can see it when I go round there.

475
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,160
Bruises.

476
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,080
Different colours in the bruises.

477
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,600
That's what they go like.

478
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,480
All funny colours,
like petrol in a puddle.

479
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,520
And I can't...
What am I supposed to say or do? Huh?

480
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,840
I ain't got a leg to stand on, have I?

481
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,480
So I don't feel like I can talk
about what he's doing to her,

482
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,320
because what I'm doing is just as bad.

483
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,680
Yeah, so in the end,
I call my brother in Ashford

484
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,960
and I tell him to take her
for her own safety,

485
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,680
and get a ticket and a train down there,
but she keeps coming back, doesn't she?

486
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,040
'Cos she thinks she's in love with him,
but she ain't.

487
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,720
And because she knows that
the longer she stays away for,

488
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,520
the worse it is for her
when she does finally come home.

489
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,040
And he's gonna ask her where she's been.
What's she going to say to that? Well?

490
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,560
[stammers] And... at the same time
I'm still screwing... I'm st...

491
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,200
I'm still screwing him.

492
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,040
I'm still... Fucking slag that I am.

493
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,000
Stacey.

494
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,840
Stopping off at the bloody shop
for his whisky.

495
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,440
Stopping off at the photo booth
in Earls Court tube,

496
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,520
every time I'm there, and for what?

497
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,360
To sit in front
of a stupid fucking little mirror?

498
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,760
[scoffs] So I can put my make-up on
so I can look nice for him?

499
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,360
I can't stop myself, can I?

500
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,400
And he can't stop, neither.

501
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,480
And Mary can't stop any of it.

502
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,560
[mutters]

503
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,400
[sighs]

504
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,000
Or so I thought.

505
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,760
[Stacey clears throat]

506
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,520
'Cos she phones me up one day

507
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,280
in the middle of the afternoon
when she's meant to be in Kent,

508
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,080
and she says to me,

509
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,600
really quiet, calm...

510
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,240
"There's a rat in the house."

511
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,360
I'm like, "Speak to your landlord."

512
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,440
She goes, "No, it's not in the building.
It's just in our flat.

513
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,640
Nowhere else. Just in the flat."

514
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,880
And I still don't get it.
I'm, like, still talking about the cat.

515
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,000
I'm going, "Well, I know it's old,
but can't the cat sort it?"

516
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,480
[chuckles softly]

517
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,120
And she has to spell it out for me.

518
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,520
"This is not something
the cat can deal with."

519
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,480
She asked me to get the poison,

520
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,360
and bring it over next time I'm round.

521
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,720
And apart from that,

522
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,080
the only thing I need to remember is that
Roderick don't need to know about it.

523
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,320
She wants rid.

524
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:05,920
She's decided.

525
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,520
[Hobbs] <i>She knows about you and Roderick?</i>

526
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,400
[Stacey] <i>Yeah.</i>

527
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,720
She didn't say anything.

528
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,360
'Cos she knows, yeah. [sniffles]

529
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,680
[crying] <i>Do you know what breaks my heart
more than anything?</i>

530
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,120
<i>It's that she still chooses me...</i>

531
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,360
<i>over him.</i>

532
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,080
<i>Her sister. Hmm. Some sister!</i>

533
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,200
- [Stacey clears throat]
- [door opens]

534
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,400
[Hobbs] <i>You're actually doing really well.
But you know what's coming next?</i>

535
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,600
<i>I'm going to ask you to go over it
just one more time.</i>

536
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,760
<i>The 7th. That night.</i>

537
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,720
<i>How do we get there?</i>

538
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,040
How did Roderick end up in hospital?

539
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,280
Why does Roderick end up in hospital?

540
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,040
Will you do that for me?

541
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,840
OK.

542
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,480
I get the whisky and the poison
from the shop at Kenway Road.

543
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,600
And I go round theirs. This is the 7th.

544
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,360
And, erm... she answers the door.

545
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,480
And...

546
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,920
She answers the door, isn't it?

547
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,840
[voice breaking] All black and blue,
all swollen up, just like I said.

548
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,360
She's really calm.

549
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,680
She wants me to hand it over to her.

550
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,600
She wants the drink... the drinks...

551
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,080
so I hand them over

552
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,440
and I say, in a loud voice
so he can hear me over the telly, I say,

553
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,200
"Sorry, Mary, can't stop. Not tonight."

554
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,200
And I left.

555
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,840
I left her to it.

556
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,280
The plan.

557
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,000
When it's all my fault. [crying]

558
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,040
When she doesn't know
what a wonderful person she is.

559
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,640
And if there's anyone that should be
putting an end to it, to him...

560
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,680
[softly]...it should be me.

561
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,360
But I can't go home, you know. [sniffles]

562
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,960
Uh, so I stay around the area,
milling about. Have a drink.

563
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,840
Walking around Sainsbury's Local until
the people there wonder what I'm doing.

564
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,600
I just hang around,
because I know what she's doing.

565
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,320
And if that's what's happening...

566
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,760
then either he's dead,

567
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,200
not that I care...

568
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,640
or she is.

569
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:23,160
'Cos if he's caught her trying
to poison his drink, then that's it.

570
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,520
He'll kill her.

571
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,560
Uh, so I go back up there.

572
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,720
At 2:00 a.m.?

573
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,520
Banging on the door,
threatening to kill him?

574
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,520
I don't know what's going on, do I?

575
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:40,880
I...

576
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:45,240
No one's answering. I can't stand it.

577
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:50,720
Uh, eventually she does
answer the door and she's just...

578
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,160
lost, and confused,
and he's lying on the carpet.

579
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,920
Uh, he's still breathing, just.

580
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,720
And the telly's still on
and Mary's no good to anyone.

581
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,040
She can't sit still,
she can't stand up, so...

582
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,800
[sighs] So I made a promise to myself.

583
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,000
Then and there.

584
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,920
[breathing heavily]

585
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,120
Whatever happens next...

586
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,880
when you people come calling,
and I know it won't be long...

587
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,360
I'm gonna take the flak.

588
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:29,600
I'm gonna put myself
in the firing line for once.

589
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,560
'Cos Mary's been
in the firing line all this time.

590
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:39,840
For her.

591
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,160
<i>That's what I thought I'd done.</i>

592
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:52,840
[exhales]

593
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,120
Merry Christmas.

594
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,800
Listen to me. I want you to think about
everything I've said to you in here.

595
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,480
You've got a bloke in hospital.

596
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,320
You've got a woman
who has admitted the crime. It's done.

597
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,400
Doesn't matter what woman's done what,
so long as you put someone away.

598
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,600
It's still solved. You've done your job.

599
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,560
- Not true.
- What harm can it do?

600
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,360
Please, for Mary. For...

601
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,560
For me. For Mary.

602
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,920
- She's a better woman than I am.
- I don't care about Mary.

603
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,240
- Interview suspended at...
- Please, look at me.

604
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,960
- Stacey, no. I'm sorry.
- Please, please...

605
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,840
It is still justice.

606
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,640
My job, our job is
to find the perpetrator of the crime.

607
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:46,240
Justice is for judges, juries.

608
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,400
I thought we had a connection.

609
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,080
I thought you understood.

610
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,640
No, I do.

611
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,880
You met a man you wanted.

612
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,680
<i>A man you find physically attractive.</i>

613
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,760
<i>And even though he was wrong,
you couldn't stop.</i>

614
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,280
[crying softly] Yeah.

615
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,080
[Hobbs] But none of that matters.

616
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,120
None of that makes your sister not guilty.

617
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,440
Interview suspended at 19:57.

618
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,840
[beeping]

619
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,520
[Warren] Stacey, you'll be taken
downstairs where you'll be bailed.

620
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,000
[Jeremy] OK, Stacey,

621
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,360
I'm going to walk you through
what happens next.

622
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,040
<i>You'll be taken downstairs...</i>

623
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,960
What was all that about?

624
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:48,040
That was... one of those bits
they don't teach on the course.

625
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,400
[Jeremy continues, indistinct]

626
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,080
- Ah, you're alright.
- I don't mind.

627
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,640
It's fine.

628
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,760
[Jeremy] <i>...anything
that might prejudice a future trial.</i>

629
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:11,840
[Jeremy] Do you have someone you can call
who can come and take you home?

630
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,920
[Jeremy continues, indistinct]

631
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,360
[melancholy music playing]

632
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,560
The right outcome.

633
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,920
- Even though it wasn't?
- Even though it wasn't.

634
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,160
Paul's bought a new jacket
to impress you with.

635
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,120
Shall I... hold the lift?

636
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,480
[Tony clears throat]

637
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,120
[ping]

638
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,360
[melancholy music continues]