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ERIKA ROSENBAUM: I went with no plan,
no agent, very little money.
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I went on a hope and a dream, um,
from small‐town Quebec,
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to, um, to Hollywood.
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When you're a young actor,
you hear stories all the time
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about people just sort of
putting it all on the line
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and taking the big chance
and going out to Hollywood
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and, and then it happening.
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KEN AULETTA: Oh my God, how many people
know the story of Lana Turner
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working in a drugstore,
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or Ava Gardner coming up from the South,
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you know, being spotted
and suddenly they're stars?
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If you're Harvey and you're a fat kid
from Queens,
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suddenly with power,
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I don't have to imagine looking up
at Lana Turner and Ava Gardner.
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Maybe I could... have sex with them.
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RONAN FARROW: He was able to use
his power to exploit women's dreams,
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and that's a powerful thing.
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ROSENBAUM:
When this powerhouse came into my life,
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I believed that I was seeing
the star maker.
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I thought, maybe this is it,
maybe this is my moment,
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maybe this is my "in."
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You hear that this happens, right?
So I thought it was happening for me.
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NEWSMAN [ over radio ]:
The Hollywood powerhouse
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behind some of
the world's most famous films,
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now Harvey Weinstein is apologizing.
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NEWSWOMAN:
It comes as The New York Times
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details numerous accusations
going back three decades.
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NEWSWOMAN 2: The report details
allegations of sexual harassment
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by a number of women, including employees
and some very high‐profile actresses.
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NEWSWOMAN 3:
Gwyneth Paltrow, Angelina Jolie,
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uh, the list of accusers
continues to grow.
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NEWSWOMAN:
This just in and it's quite disturbing,
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another bombshell
in the Harvey Weinstein story.
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NEWSMAN: Three more women are now
accusing Harvey Weinstein of raping them.
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NEWSWOMAN: ...who are among nearly 80
who have accused Weinstein of misconduct.
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[ helicopter whirring overhead ]
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NEWSWOMAN: Well, as you can see
behind me, Harvey Weinstein
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won't be able to escape the spotlight
when he turns himself in
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not far from his Tribeca office
where he ran his media empire.
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NEWSMAN:
These accusations span over his career.
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How did he get away with it for so long?
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MAN:
Right here, right here. Good, good, good.
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NEWSMAN: What took you so long
to surrender, Harvey?
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NEWSMAN 2: Mr. Weinstein,
this must be very humiliating for you.
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NEWSWOMAN: It was not the type of
paparazzi Harvey Weinstein is used to.
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Weinstein has repeatedly
denied the charges against him.
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MAN:
Down in front!
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[ crowd shouting indistinctly ]
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‐ Mr. Weinstein intends to enter
a plea of not guilty.
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We intend to move very quickly
to dismiss, uh, these charges.
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We believe that they are
constitutionally flawed.
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We believe that they are not
factually supported by the evidence,
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and we believe that,
at the end of the process,
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Mr. Weinstein will be exonerated.
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NEWSMAN: Does he maintain that
these relationships were consensual?
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‐ Mr. Weinstein has always maintained
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that any sexual activity
he engaged in was consensual.
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Thank you very much.
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HOPE D'AMORE:
He really thinks he's telling the truth
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when he says he hasn't had
unconsensual sex.
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If he gets what he wanted...
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no matter what it is,
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it doesn't take‐‐ matter what it takes
to get there, it doesn't matter.
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"If I get what I want, it was consensual."
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I think he believed that.
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D'AMORE: I was a student
at the University of Buffalo.
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I was studying psychology and philosophy.
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Someone I knew from college called me
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and said, "Fleetwood Mac
is going to be here,"
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you know, about the... this concert,
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and, uh, "How would you
like to work backstage?"
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Buffalo was a huge stop on concert tours.
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Harvey was the biggest promoter in town,
so, you had an album, uh,
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you were going to deal with Harvey.
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MICKEY OSTERREICHER: I first met him
at the University of Buffalo.
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I was working as a photo editor
of the school newspaper.
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And then as I started
to shoot pictures for them,
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I realized that they were really doing
very well and going places.
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DEBORAH SLATER: Harvey was the talent,
Corky was the business.
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Harvey wanted to be known by everybody,
to have the control and the fame.
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It was just that persona
of "never take no for an answer."
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And that was absolutely his way,
it was "never take no for an answer."
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D'AMORE: The first time I met Harvey
was at the concert backstage.
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Everyone was very busy
doing different things on phones.
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I remember him looking at me.
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Um, I smiled at him, I'm sure.
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Right from the beginning,
he was a very charming guy.
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You know, he would look at you
when he spoke to you with great sincerity.
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Not someone I‐‐ I would ever
have found attractive physically,
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but very attractive in the sense
that he was a charming person.
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He said, "What do you like doing?"
I said, "I love the movies."
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And he said, "Well, you know,
my brother Bob and I
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"are getting in that business
and we're just starting,
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but if you come to work here,
it might be interesting for you."
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He told me about Miramax. Uh...
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He told me that they were going
to form a company.
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He was naming it for his parents,
Miriam and Max Weinstein,
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and that was what he wanted to do,
not concert promotion.
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His interest was genuine,
and his knowledge was genuine.
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I love it when I meet people
who just love what they do.
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And to get paid to do something
you're interested in?
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SLATER: Harvey always had aspirations
of moving along.
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You knew that his aspirations
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for success for the films
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that he really dreamed of making
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weren't going to keep him in Buffalo.
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D'AMORE:
He was going to go to New York
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to talk to someone about a film
they were trying to distribute.
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He said, "Why don't you come?"
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I said, "Sure." I mean, I jumped at it.
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We stayed at a hotel by Central Park.
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I was standing in the lobby.
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It was, you know, kind of, "You wait
with the bags, I'll go and check us in."
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He said, "Well, there was a mistake.
There's only one room."
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And I just, you know,
gave him a look and I said,
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"Well, then you're going
to have to sleep on the chair."
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It didn't seem so‐‐
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I mean, that seemed like
a real move, um, on his part,
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but, you know, the worst I might
have thought he would do
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would, would be to claim that
he slept with me when he hadn't.
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I could live with that.
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I put on a T‐shirt and some shorts
or something to sleep in,
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and I went to bed.
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Suddenly, Harvey gets into bed naked,
next to me.
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And I said, you know, something,
you know, just, "Harvey..."
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and I just pushed him away.
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You know he...
he tries to cajole at first.
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"Do you really want to make me an enemy,
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for five minutes of your time?"
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I mean...
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He just, um...
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He just pushed and pushed and...
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And then he just, you know, he's huge.
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I weigh about a hundred pounds,
probably weighed about 110 then.
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Maybe...
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I don't know how to explain it.
I just, I just...
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thought, if I just shut up...
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it will be over in a few minutes.
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I didn't want anything from him.
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I didn't hit him.
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I didn't try to scratch his eyes out.
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[ voice breaking ]:
But I said no, and I pushed him away...
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more than once.
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And then I just stopped.
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[ sobs softly ]
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I was so frightened.
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I went back to Buffalo.
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I didn't tell anybody.
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I knew, he used to say
he owned the cops in Buffalo,
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because they worked concerts,
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they worked security
when they were off duty.
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You know, he had influence.
He had a lot of money.
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Um, he did a lot of advertising
in newspapers.
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Nobody would have believed
anything I said.
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I wasn't going to go to anybody
and complain about that.
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[ sobs softly ]
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I mean, it's the,
it's the collateral damage
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that, you know,
what it does to relationships,
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with friends, people you love.
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And they don't know why.
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I, you know, it...
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It just, he‐‐
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It steals something.
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HARVEY WEINSTEIN:
I never liked the music industry.
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I never liked promoting concerts
or any of that.
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But I always talked about film
from the beginning.
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Throughout the course of my career,
and the early beginnings of it,
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people would always say
to abandon your dream.
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[ siren wailing ]
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Not to do it, it's not going to happen,
it's impossible.
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You have to believe in yourself.
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You have to be somewhat tenacious,
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and you really have to have a conviction.
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JACK LECHNER:
I remember meeting him and thinking,
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this person can't exist.
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He's just such a caricature
of a Hollywood mogul
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that hasn't been around for decades.
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I remember as a kid reading about moguls
like Harry Cohn and Louis B. Mayer
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and thinking it would have been so amazing
to work for one of those people.
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And then, as it happens, I found myself
working for one of those people.
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JOHN SCHMIDT: I went over to Miramax
for the job interview
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to be the chief financial officer.
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I spent 30 minutes with Bob.
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And then all of a sudden the door
swings open and Harvey walks in,
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and he goes, "Who's this?"
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And Bob goes, "This is Schmidt.
We're interviewing for the CFO job."
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And he looks at me
and he goes, "You're hired."
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‐ I liked the fact that,
both with Bob and Harvey,
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you could literally just walk
into their office with an idea.
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And if either of them thought
it was a good idea,
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you would find yourself doing it.
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"Go figure it out, make it happen."
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That was exciting.
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BOB WEINSTEIN: To get a film either
financed here or acquired at Miramax,
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it's really a case of me and my brother
being the final decision maker.
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We've picked up so many films
and, you know, financed so many pictures
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based on his approval,
my approval, and that was it.
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There was no three weeks,
"Hold on, we've got to go
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up through the corporate board meeting."
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That's what we like.
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HARVEY: At Miramax, we're not under
that corporate pressure to say,
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"Jesus, we've got to go up each year,"
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so we can do what we think is good,
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and if our profits are lower next year
than they were the year before, so what?
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So what, as long as we did good work?
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LECHNER: His sense of marketing
and promotion was just phenomenal.
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He was able to do things
that no one else was able to do
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because he was working
with extraordinary people
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on extraordinary projects.
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He was brilliant.
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MARK GILL:
The movies were extraordinary,
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the opportunities to make them
were extraordinary,
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and for a time there, Miramax
was one of the very few doing it.
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And changing the way one thought
about independent cinema
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and the stories it could tell
and how many people they could reach.
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And that was an extraordinary thing
to be a part of.
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‐ We were the shit then.
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Excuse my French. [ chuckles ]
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I mean, we were.
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And it was great.
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One evening...
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it must have been
one of Harvey's assistants said,
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"On your way into work in the morning,
come to the screening room."
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[ tone beeping ]
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Lights go down, it's Cinema Paradiso.
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The end of the film when the little boy
becomes the old man
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and he's sitting in the theater, watching
these old black‐and‐white films...
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that really moved all of us.
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Lights go up, there wasn't a dry eye.
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Harvey came down one aisle,
Bob came down another,
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and they both looked at us
and said, "What do you think?"
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"What do you mean
what do we think, look at our faces.
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You have to have this movie."
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And they acquired it.
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Huge turning point,
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because it came around the same time
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as Sex, Lies, and Videotape,
My Left Foot, Cinema Paradiso.
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Those were the three that really
changed everything for us.
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SCHMIDT: In a way, all three films
demonstrate the brashness,
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the confidence, the risk‐taking, um,
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many of the things that,
that distinguishes Miramax
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and distinguished Harvey and Bob
at the beginning.
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[ cars whooshing ]
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♪
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HARVEY: I could do what the studios do
all day long in my sleep,
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and my staff could too.
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The Miramax charter was always
to make something new and different,
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almost like Star Trek , to boldly go
where no one had gone before.
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I'm gonna tell you the secret of Miramax.
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It's not marketing,
not corporate politics,
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it's the written word.
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NEWSWOMAN:
It seems an odd coupling.
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Disney‐‐ the makers of Aladdin,
Huck Finn, and Beauty and the Beast ‐‐
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has bought Miramax.
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‐ There's no question that Miramax
has been on an extraordinary roll.
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‐ It's having, you know, the autonomy
to make our kind of movies
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and to have their kind of resources.
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LECHNER: The success
caused Disney to buy Miramax.
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Disney was just about invisible.
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‐ The amount of freedom that Harvey
and Bob had was unparalleled.
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And the theory about that was,
"They know how to do something
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we don't know how to do,
we should just let them do it."
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‐ In some ways that was the best time
for Harvey and Bob creatively
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because they could gamble
with someone else's money,
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and gambling was what they were good at.
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Harvey at his best was charming,
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funny and amazing at what he did.
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Harvey at his worst was a monster
that you wouldn't want to cross.
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‐ You had an overlord who lived
by the most vicious methods possible
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in order to instill fear.
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‐ I mean, we've all had tough bosses,
right, in the business from time to time,
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but over time, this became
something worse than that.
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‐ In a lot of ways,
he was tougher on the guys.
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‐ I've ducked from a couple of ashtrays
being thrown at me,
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one of them that probably weighed
five pounds, made out of marble.
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‐ If you were, uh, in his way,
uh, it didn't matter,
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he was, you know,
an equal opportunity abuser.
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‐ Miramax broke a ton of people.
Harvey broke a ton of people.
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‐ It's just how it was.
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You either dealt with it or you left.
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‐ Miramax was built on its energy
and its, you know,
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its, um...
you know, its breaking of the rules.
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And, you know, that's okay
when you're doing it
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in a professional
and respectful manner‐‐
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you're breaking the rules in an industry
or, you know, disrupting an industry‐‐
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but it's not okay when it's, you know,
when it's, uh, harassment,
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and harassment was, uh,
was all over the place.
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DECLESIS: We sort of knew
that Harvey was cheating on his wife,
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but I think we thought
that that was all that was going on,
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until a little time went past.
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‐ A young woman,
who was a friend of mine,
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who I had introduced to the company,
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very smart, very capable,
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uh, against quite a bit of competition,
she landed a job.
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‐ One day this particular assistant
just stopped coming to work.
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And I didn't know why.
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So I went and talked to the people
that I shared her with,
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the other department.
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And they kind of gave me
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this very whispered story
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of what sort of kind of
might have happened.
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‐ She had been delivering
a script to Harvey
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at his, uh, his apartment, I guess,
in New York,
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and there was, um, you know,
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there was a very, um, um, you know,
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a very bad, uh, incident.
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♪
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DECLESIS: One of the many things I did
for Bob on a daily basis
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was open his mail,
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and it was not unusual for us
to get letters from law firms.
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We got letters from law firms
all the time.
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This particular letter
was not one of those letters.
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This was a letter stating that
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"We intend to file suit against Harvey
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for sexual assault."
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And I sat there and read it,
the whole thing,
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over and over, three or four times,
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until I really...
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I got good and angry.
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You have a choice to make, I guess.
I had a choice to make.
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You either swallow it, ignore it.
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I'm not that person, I can't do that.
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So I walked in and I gave him mail,
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other mail that he had
to have dealt with,
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it was mail that he had to deal with.
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And at the end, I handed him the envelope
from the attorney's office and said,
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"And this came too."
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♪
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SCHMIDT: The young woman signed
a nondisclosure agreement.
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There was a cash settlement.
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It had all happened quickly,
in a matter of two or three days.
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DECLESIS:
I left very shortly thereafter.
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As I walked out of Bob's office,
I pointed my finger at him and I said,
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"I quit, and your brother is
a fucking pig."
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‐ You know, as I look back, I, you know,
I can't quite reconcile, you know, myself
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to just not up and quitting
when my friend was abused by him.
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You know, um, sexually abused.
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Um, so I live with that, for sure.
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ZELDA PERKINS: This is me
at my first Cannes Film Festival,
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looking slightly bemused.
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Harvey and I on a yacht.
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Me in the office looking about 12.
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That's quite shortly before I left.
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00:26:15,714 --> 00:26:17,649
When Harvey came to the UK,
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you'd be with him at the Savoy,
where he conducted all his business.
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As an assistant, you had to go
and get him up in the morning,
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which meant there'd usually be
a tussle at the bedside.
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Um, you know, he showered.
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He expected you to go...
be around when he was naked.
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He very quickly tried to normalize
the situation
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and just told me I had to get with it
and not be such a prissy,
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and that he didn't have time to worry
about my delicate feelings.
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And, you know, at 23 and your first job,
you believe what they tell you.
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So I was like, okay, well, I'm now
in the big league and, yeah, of course.
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He's... He's really important,
he doesn't have time to sort of, you know,
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do things like wear trousers
when he's tired.
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00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:02,661
The first time that he asked
for a massage, I was very robust,
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and, and I was always pretty cheeky
and rude back to him,
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which would make him laugh.
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And so I didn't feel frightened,
but it was exhausting.
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It was mentally exhausting because
you were always slightly fighting,
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you were always nearly‐‐
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It felt like you were always
just keeping your head above water.
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♪
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But it was a very exciting environment
to be in.
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When you were with Harvey,
you were going out to dinner
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with Sean Connery
and Leonardo DiCaprio
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00:27:32,958 --> 00:27:34,659
and flying around in private jets.
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He created an energy around him
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00:27:36,762 --> 00:27:40,132
that made it feel like you were
in the center of the universe.
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00:27:40,132 --> 00:27:42,001
♪
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00:27:54,013 --> 00:27:58,083
I had recently employed an assistant
to help me with Harvey.
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00:27:58,083 --> 00:28:00,786
When I was interviewing people,
I very clearly said to people,
407
00:28:00,786 --> 00:28:02,921
"He will behave inappropriately.
408
00:28:02,921 --> 00:28:04,823
If you deal with him robustly
you'll be fine,"
409
00:28:04,823 --> 00:28:06,359
because that was my experience.
410
00:28:10,196 --> 00:28:14,233
That evening, my colleague
did the night shift.
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00:28:14,233 --> 00:28:15,968
It was her first time with him alone,
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and he assaulted her
and attempted to rape her.
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Which she told me, uh, the next day.
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And I think probably was
one of the most shattering bits of news
415
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I had ever had.
416
00:28:29,281 --> 00:28:32,885
Um, so I immediately went
and confronted Harvey.
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He told me nothing,
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00:28:36,755 --> 00:28:40,092
and he then swore on his wife,
who was Eve at the time,
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and his children's life,
420
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which to me, I'm afraid,
was an absolute admission of guilt
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because I had heard him only do that
422
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as a sort of proper
"get out of jail" card,
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that was his really
"I'm in trouble," um, lie.
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♪
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00:29:00,913 --> 00:29:04,684
I was pretty panicked because
I didn't really know what to do.
426
00:29:04,684 --> 00:29:07,687
We had no physical evidence.
427
00:29:07,687 --> 00:29:10,723
By the time we were all back in England,
428
00:29:10,723 --> 00:29:12,725
she just still didn't want
to go to the police,
429
00:29:12,725 --> 00:29:15,160
which I completely understand
and had to respect.
430
00:29:17,663 --> 00:29:20,600
So the day that I resigned,
431
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,335
I was bombarded
with telephone calls from him
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00:29:23,335 --> 00:29:28,641
and, um, a lot of execs
from the New York office.
433
00:29:28,641 --> 00:29:30,909
Um, and...
434
00:29:32,177 --> 00:29:36,582
I think I had a total of about
17 or 18 messages that night,
435
00:29:36,582 --> 00:29:38,183
that went pretty much through the night.
436
00:29:39,719 --> 00:29:42,555
I genuinely felt that I might be in danger
437
00:29:42,555 --> 00:29:46,858
and I felt that I may need evidence
in court.
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00:29:46,858 --> 00:29:50,129
Um, anyway, I'll just let you hear.
439
00:30:43,386 --> 00:30:44,426
[ recorder beeps ]
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♪
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AULETTA: I write about the media
and communications for The New Yorker.
442
00:31:00,165 --> 00:31:02,401
So I try and tell a story
through an individual.
443
00:31:02,401 --> 00:31:05,971
Uh, in this case,
it was a Hollywood story.
444
00:31:05,971 --> 00:31:08,307
We decided to profile Harvey Weinstein.
445
00:31:08,307 --> 00:31:10,309
♪
446
00:31:12,211 --> 00:31:15,314
I was interested in power, he had power.
447
00:31:15,314 --> 00:31:21,086
I was interested in abusive power,
and I'd heard tales of his abusive power.
448
00:31:21,086 --> 00:31:23,389
I'm just talking about bullying of people,
449
00:31:23,389 --> 00:31:25,357
and obviously I'd heard about
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00:31:25,357 --> 00:31:28,527
and witnessed, by watching his movies,
some real talent.
451
00:31:29,328 --> 00:31:31,497
[ Harvey mouthing "Thank you" ]
[ indistinct shouting in distance ]
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AULETTA: I spent an enormous amount
of one‐on‐one time with him,
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00:31:37,369 --> 00:31:40,740
as well as time watching him
just being a fly on the wall.
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00:31:42,608 --> 00:31:45,978
In the course of reporting,
I came across an incident
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00:31:45,978 --> 00:31:51,383
where a female employee of Miramax,
he attempted to rape her.
456
00:31:51,383 --> 00:31:54,320
And, um, it was violent.
457
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,721
She was frightened.
458
00:31:55,721 --> 00:31:58,924
She talked to Zelda Perkins,
who was an assistant to Harvey,
459
00:31:58,924 --> 00:32:03,128
and Harvey agreed to pay
just under $250,000
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if they would sign
a non‐disclosure agreement.
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PERKINS:
At this point, I was trying to work out
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how to make this okay.
463
00:32:13,439 --> 00:32:17,009
And the only way
I could make it okay in my mind
464
00:32:17,009 --> 00:32:18,711
was, okay, well, we will ask
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00:32:18,711 --> 00:32:23,783
for an enormous amount of money
that is indicative of the crime.
466
00:32:23,783 --> 00:32:27,553
This payment is going to show
how guilty he is.
467
00:32:30,790 --> 00:32:33,659
"Dear Zelda, I am writing to set out
the agreement
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00:32:33,659 --> 00:32:37,563
relating to the termination of
your employment with Miramax Film Corp."
469
00:32:38,698 --> 00:32:41,233
What they wanted was pretty simple.
470
00:32:42,635 --> 00:32:45,971
They wanted us to never speak
about anything to do
471
00:32:45,971 --> 00:32:50,209
with Miramax or Harvey or Bob,
um, obviously the incident,
472
00:32:50,209 --> 00:32:53,011
anything, ever again.
473
00:32:53,011 --> 00:32:57,616
But it became pretty sinister
when we weren't allowed
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00:32:57,616 --> 00:33:01,253
to discuss this with a therapist.
475
00:33:01,253 --> 00:33:03,322
If we spoke to a therapist,
476
00:33:03,322 --> 00:33:05,858
the therapist had to sign
a confidentiality agreement.
477
00:33:07,226 --> 00:33:11,831
If the therapist then broke
that confidentiality agreement,
478
00:33:11,831 --> 00:33:13,332
we would be held responsible,
479
00:33:13,332 --> 00:33:16,134
we would be considered
in breach of our contract.
480
00:33:16,134 --> 00:33:18,871
It also very clearly stipulates
481
00:33:18,871 --> 00:33:22,708
that if there is a civil
or criminal case brought,
482
00:33:22,708 --> 00:33:27,179
that we have to provide
reasonable assistance to help Miramax.
483
00:33:29,582 --> 00:33:32,451
You know, we had guns
pointing at us from every direction.
484
00:33:33,218 --> 00:33:35,654
[ church bell ringing in distance ]
485
00:33:37,723 --> 00:33:40,158
Ken Auletta found me in Guatemala.
486
00:33:41,527 --> 00:33:44,764
And I remember he called me
on my mobile and I was terrified
487
00:33:44,764 --> 00:33:46,766
and couldn't speak to him.
488
00:33:47,733 --> 00:33:51,236
I genuinely thought I'd end up in jail
if I broke my agreement.
489
00:33:52,972 --> 00:33:56,108
AULETTA: I believed he had done
this terrible thing,
490
00:33:56,108 --> 00:33:58,945
and yet I didn't have anyone
on the record saying it.
491
00:33:58,945 --> 00:34:03,816
I was hearing stories which essentially
you could dismiss as rumor,
492
00:34:03,816 --> 00:34:06,318
because you didn't have names attached.
493
00:34:06,318 --> 00:34:08,053
You need to be able to prove things,
494
00:34:08,053 --> 00:34:11,657
and so we had to publish the piece
without including Zelda's story.
495
00:34:12,758 --> 00:34:15,995
It was very frustrating for me
because I knew he was a predator.
496
00:34:15,995 --> 00:34:17,596
I knew he was pathological,
497
00:34:17,596 --> 00:34:20,033
and I wanted to stop him
because I knew he would do it again.
498
00:34:27,006 --> 00:34:29,074
♪
499
00:34:44,122 --> 00:34:47,660
ROSENBAUM: I had been connected
with this lovely model,
500
00:34:47,660 --> 00:34:50,362
and she sort of took me under her wing.
501
00:34:50,362 --> 00:34:53,566
She had invited me, uh,
to come along to this party,
502
00:34:53,566 --> 00:34:58,170
where, um, I sat down to dinner
next to Harvey Weinstein,
503
00:34:58,170 --> 00:35:00,573
and I did not know
who he was at the time.
504
00:35:00,573 --> 00:35:02,575
[ indistinct chatter ]
[ silverware clinking ]
505
00:35:06,612 --> 00:35:11,383
He was very at ease,
casually chatting about, uh,
506
00:35:11,383 --> 00:35:13,151
family and life in a small town,
507
00:35:13,151 --> 00:35:16,889
and he talked passionately
about our industry.
508
00:35:16,889 --> 00:35:20,292
He talked about it like some,
like a film nerd,
509
00:35:20,292 --> 00:35:23,096
like somebody who just loved storytelling
510
00:35:23,096 --> 00:35:25,098
and who was so proud to be able to do it.
511
00:35:27,466 --> 00:35:31,704
By the end of it, he was quite sure
that I was going to do very well,
512
00:35:31,704 --> 00:35:33,205
he could help me out.
513
00:35:33,205 --> 00:35:35,541
[ indistinct chatter ]
514
00:35:35,541 --> 00:35:40,079
I really believed
that I was seeing this genius
515
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:43,282
who could just spot a Gwyneth Paltrow.
516
00:35:45,217 --> 00:35:48,687
We were both leaving
and he beckoned me over and said, uh,
517
00:35:48,687 --> 00:35:52,725
you know, "I'm not done talking to you.
We gotta talk about what comes next."
518
00:35:52,725 --> 00:35:56,595
And, uh, he said, "Can you give me
a lift back to my hotel?"
519
00:35:56,595 --> 00:35:58,597
♪
520
00:36:06,806 --> 00:36:10,643
He asked if I would continue
talking upstairs.
521
00:36:10,643 --> 00:36:13,445
Uh, he had an office suite.
522
00:36:13,445 --> 00:36:18,216
And although it was late, I thought,
523
00:36:18,216 --> 00:36:22,822
well, I either say "no thanks" and go home
524
00:36:22,822 --> 00:36:24,757
or I take the meeting.
525
00:36:24,757 --> 00:36:29,996
So, although I knew there was a risk,
I also knew that you take risks
526
00:36:29,996 --> 00:36:31,797
when you're young and hopeful
527
00:36:31,797 --> 00:36:35,601
and trying to make it
in a seemingly impossible industry.
528
00:36:35,601 --> 00:36:37,036
You say yes.
529
00:36:37,036 --> 00:36:39,038
♪
530
00:36:46,244 --> 00:36:49,615
He no longer seemed to want
to talk about work,
531
00:36:51,249 --> 00:36:55,220
and he slid, uh, his arm around my waist,
532
00:36:55,220 --> 00:36:57,690
as though we were old friends.
533
00:36:57,690 --> 00:37:03,062
And he said, "We're cool right?
We're friends, right?"
534
00:37:04,096 --> 00:37:07,499
And he took his shirt off
and suggested I do the same.
535
00:37:11,204 --> 00:37:15,941
I told him that I had
a boyfriend at home and...
536
00:37:15,941 --> 00:37:19,979
and, and he said, you know,
"I'm married, it's not a big deal.
537
00:37:19,979 --> 00:37:21,680
Everybody does this."
538
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,851
And he, you know, he rattled off the names
of a few young actresses
539
00:37:25,851 --> 00:37:29,088
that had been in recent films of his,
540
00:37:29,088 --> 00:37:32,391
as though we were all just friends
541
00:37:32,391 --> 00:37:36,294
and this was just part of Hollywood.
542
00:37:36,294 --> 00:37:39,932
And it seemed so unlikely
that all of these women
543
00:37:39,932 --> 00:37:43,736
would have crossed that line
to get the jobs that they had.
544
00:37:43,736 --> 00:37:45,004
I didn't want to believe that.
545
00:37:46,806 --> 00:37:50,576
And so we had a weird... [ sighs ]
sort of negotiation
546
00:37:50,576 --> 00:37:54,379
about what I was willing to do,
547
00:37:54,379 --> 00:37:57,449
and I wanted to just get out.
548
00:37:57,449 --> 00:38:00,186
But I was afraid to upset him.
549
00:38:02,054 --> 00:38:05,891
And so he laid down on the bed,
550
00:38:05,891 --> 00:38:09,762
and I stood on either side of him...
551
00:38:11,063 --> 00:38:16,735
and bent down and, and feigned interest
in the art of massage.
552
00:38:16,735 --> 00:38:18,938
Then I told him I had to go.
553
00:38:18,938 --> 00:38:22,307
I had... people waiting for me
or something.
554
00:38:22,307 --> 00:38:26,245
I made some excuse,
and he walked me to the door
555
00:38:26,245 --> 00:38:28,881
and acted as though, um...
556
00:38:30,716 --> 00:38:33,052
I'd passed some sort of test,
557
00:38:33,052 --> 00:38:37,556
and... and he would see
what comes up for me.
558
00:38:39,591 --> 00:38:41,127
[ sighs ]
559
00:38:41,127 --> 00:38:43,129
♪
560
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:56,209
I was revved up on adrenaline.
561
00:38:56,209 --> 00:38:59,212
I felt like I had just escaped
562
00:38:59,212 --> 00:39:03,482
a narrow encounter.
563
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,256
I should have kept away from him
at that point.
564
00:39:13,226 --> 00:39:16,795
But I also still
really believed in my future.
565
00:39:17,830 --> 00:39:19,631
And I had turned him down once.
566
00:39:19,631 --> 00:39:23,736
He knew I was not going to sleep with him.
567
00:39:23,736 --> 00:39:28,640
And I had every reason to hope
568
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,178
that he was just going to help me.
569
00:39:32,178 --> 00:39:34,180
♪
570
00:39:36,782 --> 00:39:38,650
I wanted desperately to believe that.
571
00:39:50,596 --> 00:39:53,299
KEVIN SPACEY:
Juliette Binoche in The English Patient.
572
00:39:55,034 --> 00:39:57,103
MEL GIBSON:
Anthony Minghella for The English Patient.
573
00:39:57,103 --> 00:39:58,837
AL PACINO:
And the Oscar goes...
574
00:39:59,671 --> 00:40:01,506
to The English Patient.
575
00:40:04,310 --> 00:40:07,479
ANN CURRY: Box office prognosis
is very good for The English Patient.
576
00:40:07,479 --> 00:40:09,882
The film was the runaway winner
at the Academy Awards,
577
00:40:09,882 --> 00:40:11,416
picking up nine Oscars.
578
00:40:11,416 --> 00:40:13,452
‐ Roberto!
579
00:40:15,654 --> 00:40:17,456
NEWSMAN: Those Weinstein brothers
have done it again,
580
00:40:17,456 --> 00:40:19,992
with more wins
at the 71st Academy Awards.
581
00:40:19,992 --> 00:40:22,895
LECHNER:
Harvey was laser‐focused on the Oscars.
582
00:40:22,895 --> 00:40:25,697
He understood the value
of the Oscars, monetarily,
583
00:40:25,697 --> 00:40:27,699
to every movie that got an award.
584
00:40:27,699 --> 00:40:32,305
Harvey was the first person to marshal
a whole team of Oscar specialists.
585
00:40:33,538 --> 00:40:36,242
GILL: Five movies a year nominated
for best picture out of 600.
586
00:40:36,242 --> 00:40:39,678
We had one every year for ten years
in a row, not an accident.
587
00:40:39,678 --> 00:40:42,248
‐ Harvey Weinstein, Bob Weinstein,
God bless 'em.
588
00:40:42,248 --> 00:40:44,549
‐ Harvey Weinstein, who believed
in us and made this movie...
589
00:40:44,549 --> 00:40:46,919
GILL: And so Harvey ended up
being thanked more than God.
590
00:40:46,919 --> 00:40:48,087
‐ Thank you, Harvey Weinstein.
591
00:40:48,087 --> 00:40:49,288
‐ Especially Harvey.
592
00:40:49,288 --> 00:40:53,225
SCHMIDT: The throwing of parties,
giving gifts to Academy members,
593
00:40:53,225 --> 00:40:57,629
the private screenings with the filmmaker
or the actor and the actress,
594
00:40:57,629 --> 00:40:59,531
a lavish dinner to follow.
595
00:41:00,299 --> 00:41:02,601
That was really created by Harvey.
596
00:41:02,601 --> 00:41:04,570
♪
597
00:41:06,406 --> 00:41:07,806
GILL:
Some people would call it gluttony.
598
00:41:07,806 --> 00:41:09,608
You'd see it
in Harvey's physique, obviously,
599
00:41:09,608 --> 00:41:11,844
but you'd see it also
in just everything he did.
600
00:41:12,945 --> 00:41:14,813
There was always wanting more.
601
00:41:14,813 --> 00:41:18,251
More press, more sales, more good reviews,
602
00:41:18,251 --> 00:41:20,719
more movies, more movie stars,
603
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,922
more parties,
just more, more, more, more, more.
604
00:41:22,922 --> 00:41:25,791
‐ I would like to thank Harvey Weinstein.
605
00:41:25,791 --> 00:41:28,327
‐ First of all, it's exhausting,
and second of all, it tells you something
606
00:41:28,327 --> 00:41:31,264
about a hole that is trying to be filled,
right, which is it's never good enough.
607
00:41:32,164 --> 00:41:33,366
‐ Shakespeare in Love.
608
00:41:33,366 --> 00:41:34,499
[ crowd applauding ]
609
00:41:34,499 --> 00:41:36,469
SCHMIDT:
I think it's very much about power.
610
00:41:36,469 --> 00:41:39,405
I think that the sort of arc
of Harvey's career
611
00:41:39,405 --> 00:41:42,641
is all about the accumulation
of influence and power.
612
00:41:42,641 --> 00:41:45,445
He thought of himself
as the sheriff in town.
613
00:41:45,445 --> 00:41:47,046
I mean, he literally called himself that.
614
00:41:48,481 --> 00:41:52,351
GILL: The anger and the impulsiveness
and the abuse of power
615
00:41:52,351 --> 00:41:54,553
are inseparable from the genius.
616
00:41:54,553 --> 00:41:55,988
That's the tragedy.
617
00:41:55,988 --> 00:41:59,058
HARVEY: I wanna thank Mark Gill
and Marcy Granata,
618
00:41:59,058 --> 00:42:02,895
who are the, one in two,
most dynamite marketing team.
619
00:42:02,895 --> 00:42:06,332
And nobody inspires me more
than my brother Bob,
620
00:42:06,332 --> 00:42:08,801
who is my partner
and best friend every day.
621
00:42:13,538 --> 00:42:15,441
GILL: If you think about the way
the Weinsteins work,
622
00:42:15,441 --> 00:42:17,376
it was very much the mafia axiom
623
00:42:17,376 --> 00:42:20,012
of "dote on the family
and kill everybody else."
624
00:42:24,183 --> 00:42:26,051
The most ironic part of all this is that
625
00:42:26,051 --> 00:42:29,322
the nastiest fights of all
were between Harvey and Bob.
626
00:42:29,322 --> 00:42:32,891
LECHNER: The first rule of Miramax is,
never get between the brothers.
627
00:42:32,891 --> 00:42:35,495
Because they were fiercely loyal
to each other,
628
00:42:35,495 --> 00:42:38,364
at the same time that they were
threatening to kill each other.
629
00:42:39,665 --> 00:42:42,601
Harvey was volcanic.
630
00:42:42,601 --> 00:42:45,604
We all knew what Harvey was thinking
because he would tell you.
631
00:42:45,604 --> 00:42:48,707
With Bob, you often never knew
what he was thinking.
632
00:42:48,707 --> 00:42:52,678
DECLESIS:
Bob was more of a simmering soul.
633
00:42:52,678 --> 00:42:54,213
[ laughs ]
634
00:42:54,213 --> 00:42:57,517
His was more under his breath.
635
00:42:58,650 --> 00:43:01,320
Like... [ softly ]:
"Don't ask me that question."
636
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,158
LECHNER: Bob is much more shy,
sometimes socially awkward.
637
00:43:06,158 --> 00:43:10,662
At the same time, Bob was more
of a real person than Harvey.
638
00:43:10,662 --> 00:43:13,232
You know, Bob has actual friends.
639
00:43:13,232 --> 00:43:16,202
Bob can just go to a ball game
and have fun.
640
00:43:16,202 --> 00:43:22,174
Um, Harvey doesn't really have that
kind of relationship with anybody.
641
00:43:22,174 --> 00:43:24,443
You know, Harvey is always working.
642
00:43:24,443 --> 00:43:29,248
He's always, at the very least, working
at the job of being Harvey Weinstein.
643
00:43:29,248 --> 00:43:33,519
[ train rattling ]
644
00:43:38,924 --> 00:43:40,926
♪
645
00:43:49,535 --> 00:43:52,438
HARVEY: I was born in Brooklyn
and then I moved to Queens.
646
00:43:55,274 --> 00:43:59,678
We went to the rent‐controlled
apartment complex called Electchester.
647
00:43:59,678 --> 00:44:03,648
And, um, we had a really good childhood
and a really good time.
648
00:44:07,152 --> 00:44:08,474
DAVE CHANNON:
This is Harvey,
649
00:44:08,474 --> 00:44:12,558
with the bow tie and the protuberant ears.
650
00:44:12,558 --> 00:44:15,327
He looks happy, everybody looks happy.
651
00:44:15,327 --> 00:44:17,396
I guess we didn't have
the Cuban missile crisis
652
00:44:17,396 --> 00:44:18,997
until a few years later.
653
00:44:22,067 --> 00:44:24,069
He wasn't very sociable.
654
00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:28,007
He was a sort of an outsider and he was
never in any of the school plays,
655
00:44:28,007 --> 00:44:29,642
or get into sports or anything.
656
00:44:29,642 --> 00:44:32,744
He just didn't stand out at all.
657
00:44:32,744 --> 00:44:37,283
It really wasn't until sometime
in the beginning of college
658
00:44:37,283 --> 00:44:40,786
when he got a reputation as obnoxious.
659
00:44:40,786 --> 00:44:43,255
The main thing he did
that really got on people's nerves
660
00:44:43,255 --> 00:44:46,992
was he would go around
acting like the Godfather.
661
00:44:46,992 --> 00:44:50,829
AULETTA: He was insecure about his looks,
about his physical appearance.
662
00:44:50,829 --> 00:44:54,833
He thought he was ugly,
he thought he was unattractive.
663
00:44:54,833 --> 00:44:58,337
Harvey was a guy who,
with a chip on his shoulder, who,
664
00:44:58,337 --> 00:45:02,141
who felt he was fighting
the establishment always.
665
00:45:02,141 --> 00:45:04,143
♪
666
00:45:10,916 --> 00:45:12,818
HARVEY:
To me, I'm still the underdog.
667
00:45:14,253 --> 00:45:16,222
I felt that way when I was young.
668
00:45:16,222 --> 00:45:17,923
And sometimes I still feel that way.
669
00:45:19,425 --> 00:45:21,594
That's why I like making movies
about underdogs.
670
00:45:24,430 --> 00:45:26,832
AJ BENZA: He cut a big figure,
he made things happen.
671
00:45:26,832 --> 00:45:29,935
He scared people,
in the same way a gangster would.
672
00:45:32,071 --> 00:45:35,040
He wasn't phony, he said what he said.
673
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,975
He meant what he meant, like Popeye.
674
00:45:36,975 --> 00:45:41,146
GILL: He was trying to prove
that he was king of the world,
675
00:45:41,146 --> 00:45:43,215
that he wanted to show everybody.
676
00:45:43,215 --> 00:45:45,084
And, you know, for a while there,
he, at least for,
677
00:45:45,084 --> 00:45:47,052
in the independent film world,
he was the king of the world.
678
00:45:47,819 --> 00:45:50,089
[ band playing "Wheel of Fortune" ]
679
00:45:51,390 --> 00:45:53,492
KAY STARR:
♪ The wheel ♪
680
00:45:53,492 --> 00:45:58,297
♪ Of fortune ♪
681
00:45:58,297 --> 00:46:01,934
♪ Goes spinning around... ♪
682
00:46:01,934 --> 00:46:03,936
REBECCA TRAISTER:
At that period in New York City,
683
00:46:03,936 --> 00:46:05,170
there were parties every night.
684
00:46:05,170 --> 00:46:07,740
There were parties for perfume launches,
there were parties for books,
685
00:46:07,740 --> 00:46:10,576
there were movie premieres,
there were TV premieres everywhere.
686
00:46:10,576 --> 00:46:12,478
The cast of Sex and the City
would show up.
687
00:46:12,478 --> 00:46:16,048
There were red carpets everywhere,
it was a very sort of high party time.
688
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:23,255
KAY STARR:
♪ Oh, wheel of fortune... ♪
689
00:46:23,255 --> 00:46:26,258
BENZA: The people who run that city,
I saw them almost every night.
690
00:46:26,258 --> 00:46:29,528
It was not uncommon to see Donald Trump
and Harvey Weinstein
691
00:46:29,528 --> 00:46:30,730
on the same night, at the same event.
692
00:46:32,465 --> 00:46:35,635
Back then, Miramax
was a vibrant company
693
00:46:35,635 --> 00:46:40,038
with a lot of great projects,
a lot of cool celebrities.
694
00:46:40,038 --> 00:46:41,507
Everybody wanted to be around it.
695
00:46:41,507 --> 00:46:43,509
♪
696
00:46:48,514 --> 00:46:49,881
[ gasps ]
697
00:46:49,881 --> 00:46:51,617
[ screaming ]
698
00:46:56,555 --> 00:46:58,290
ROSANNA ARQUETTE:
That needle‐to‐the‐heart scene
699
00:46:58,290 --> 00:47:02,394
in Pulp Fiction: genius.
700
00:47:02,394 --> 00:47:05,230
You could say this about Harvey Weinstein,
he had really good taste.
701
00:47:05,230 --> 00:47:06,532
He made good films.
702
00:47:07,266 --> 00:47:08,967
‐ That was fuckin' trippy.
703
00:47:08,967 --> 00:47:11,270
[ giggles ]
[ Mia gasps ]
704
00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:14,039
VINCENT:
[ sighing ] Oh, man.
705
00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:18,511
‐ He really understood... good material.
706
00:47:19,612 --> 00:47:23,015
TRAISTER: What Harvey was doing
in the 1990s in New York City is,
707
00:47:23,015 --> 00:47:26,218
he was recreating some of the romance
of the studio era.
708
00:47:26,218 --> 00:47:30,989
It offered the fairy tale that's
very connected in the American mythology
709
00:47:30,989 --> 00:47:35,194
of how you become a star,
how you become an artist.
710
00:47:35,194 --> 00:47:37,296
[ fans shouting, cheering ]
711
00:47:40,399 --> 00:47:43,669
Many people who have gone
to work in the movie industry
712
00:47:43,669 --> 00:47:46,238
are drawn there by this kind of fantasy.
713
00:47:49,542 --> 00:47:52,945
And Harvey was, like, the path to that.
714
00:47:52,945 --> 00:47:55,815
CAITLIN DULANY: Miramax was sort of "it"
and Harvey was the guy
715
00:47:55,815 --> 00:47:57,717
that was kind of making things happen.
716
00:47:57,717 --> 00:48:02,921
The opportunities for actors to do
great roles, big or small, were there.
717
00:48:02,921 --> 00:48:07,059
What could be more exciting
as a young actor?
718
00:48:07,059 --> 00:48:09,228
It was an exciting time, yeah.
719
00:48:10,797 --> 00:48:12,799
♪
720
00:48:17,369 --> 00:48:21,273
‐ Hi. Paz. Nice to meet you.
721
00:48:24,577 --> 00:48:28,781
BENZA: I always imagined,
like plenty of people in this industry,
722
00:48:28,781 --> 00:48:33,218
that actresses slept with Harvey
because it was good for their career,
723
00:48:33,218 --> 00:48:35,354
not because they wanted
to jump in bed with him
724
00:48:35,354 --> 00:48:38,023
because they were in love with him.
725
00:48:38,023 --> 00:48:41,293
I just assumed many actresses did that.
726
00:48:44,396 --> 00:48:47,966
I don't know, uh, it's just not odd to me.
727
00:48:50,670 --> 00:48:53,272
There's no question that Harvey
exuded a certain power.
728
00:48:53,272 --> 00:48:59,411
Any powerful man in any city,
yeah, women were just part of the thing.
729
00:48:59,411 --> 00:49:04,183
They come along with the power,
they're attracted to the power.
730
00:49:04,183 --> 00:49:06,719
It's like putting a light on your porch,
you're gonna get a lot of moths.
731
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:13,793
NANNETTE KLATT:
I was born with a hereditary eye disease.
732
00:49:13,793 --> 00:49:17,296
I don't see anything up, down
or to the sides,
733
00:49:17,296 --> 00:49:19,465
and it comes with total night blindness.
734
00:49:19,465 --> 00:49:23,703
So I've worked really hard
not to ever look blind or act blind.
735
00:49:26,038 --> 00:49:30,576
I had gotten an audition,
was going in to read for a part.
736
00:49:31,610 --> 00:49:33,145
He handed me the script and he said,
737
00:49:33,145 --> 00:49:35,113
"Do you think you can read
those four pages for me?"
738
00:49:35,113 --> 00:49:37,516
And I said,
"Yes, yes, I would be happy to."
739
00:49:38,551 --> 00:49:40,573
LOUISE GODBOLD:
Here was I, meeting one of
740
00:49:40,573 --> 00:49:42,922
the most powerful men in Hollywood.
741
00:49:42,922 --> 00:49:45,224
I felt very flattered,
742
00:49:45,224 --> 00:49:48,694
understanding that this was a privilege.
743
00:49:49,595 --> 00:49:54,333
‐ I was intimidated by him and his power.
744
00:49:54,333 --> 00:49:58,136
I mean, he's a repulsive man, physically,
745
00:49:58,136 --> 00:50:02,708
but I saw all these other actresses
hanging around him,
746
00:50:02,708 --> 00:50:06,545
so I felt like it was something you did.
747
00:50:07,713 --> 00:50:10,249
He asked me if I wanted a ride home,
748
00:50:11,250 --> 00:50:14,119
and I said okay.
749
00:50:17,022 --> 00:50:18,524
DULANY:
Harvey invited me out to dinner.
750
00:50:20,292 --> 00:50:21,861
It was a wonderful night.
751
00:50:24,697 --> 00:50:27,633
Leonardo DiCaprio was at our table.
He was lovely.
752
00:50:28,667 --> 00:50:33,272
The after‐party would continue
at the hotel where Harvey was staying.
753
00:50:35,942 --> 00:50:37,643
And then I was...
754
00:50:38,844 --> 00:50:41,647
It was just me in the car and that's
when I started to feel a little weird,
755
00:50:41,647 --> 00:50:45,785
like why... wouldn't I be carpooling
with somebody?
756
00:50:47,052 --> 00:50:49,989
ARQUETTE: I was going to have dinner
with him at the Beverly Hills Hotel
757
00:50:49,989 --> 00:50:53,793
and I arrived, front desk,
"I'm here to see Harvey Weinstein,
758
00:50:53,793 --> 00:50:55,728
and, um, tell him I'll be
in the restaurant."
759
00:50:55,728 --> 00:51:00,766
"No, Mr. Weinstein said would you go
upstairs, he'll meet you upstairs."
760
00:51:00,766 --> 00:51:07,139
He said, "Can... I want‐‐
Can we have a drink upstairs at yours?"
761
00:51:07,139 --> 00:51:12,311
And I was too afraid to say no.
762
00:51:12,311 --> 00:51:14,380
We went up to my place
763
00:51:14,380 --> 00:51:20,319
and things got
very uncomfortable, very fast.
764
00:51:20,319 --> 00:51:24,957
‐ I was so happy because this,
all I could think of is, yes,
765
00:51:24,957 --> 00:51:26,993
this is the launching of my career.
766
00:51:26,993 --> 00:51:31,163
I am going to be working
for a huge major studio,
767
00:51:31,163 --> 00:51:34,967
a huge person in the industry,
thank you, God.
768
00:51:37,937 --> 00:51:40,673
‐ So obviously this is the part
that's very hard to talk about,
769
00:51:40,673 --> 00:51:42,341
that I haven't talked about
that much before.
770
00:51:42,341 --> 00:51:44,710
So I'll try, um...
771
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:49,415
I felt, um, maybe like
in shock a little bit.
772
00:51:51,017 --> 00:51:56,756
Um... and then I was in a situation
that I couldn't get out of.
773
00:51:56,756 --> 00:51:58,724
‐ "Wait a minute, wait a minute,"
and he stood up.
774
00:51:58,724 --> 00:52:00,860
He said, "One‐‐ One minute, one minute.
775
00:52:00,860 --> 00:52:02,327
I need one more thing from you."
776
00:52:02,327 --> 00:52:07,066
He said, "I want to see your breasts,"
777
00:52:07,066 --> 00:52:10,036
and I said, "I'm sorry, I don't do that."
778
00:52:10,036 --> 00:52:13,205
‐ "Oh, I have a stiff neck.
779
00:52:13,205 --> 00:52:16,809
Um, would you give me
a shoulder massage?"
780
00:52:16,809 --> 00:52:20,178
‐ "I can't move my neck,"
and I said, "Oh, God, that's terrible.
781
00:52:20,178 --> 00:52:23,482
"I should get you a masseuse.
782
00:52:23,482 --> 00:52:25,350
I have a great masseuse
and I'm gonna call them."
783
00:52:25,350 --> 00:52:27,987
‐ He disappears into the bedroom.
784
00:52:27,987 --> 00:52:31,023
‐ He goes, "No, no, no, no, Rosanna."
785
00:52:31,023 --> 00:52:35,461
And he took my hand,
and‐and like he grabbed my hand,
786
00:52:35,461 --> 00:52:39,465
and he had an erection, and I went "fuck."
787
00:52:39,465 --> 00:52:41,067
Um... backed up
788
00:52:41,067 --> 00:52:45,370
and... and he goes, "Rosanna,
you're making a very big mistake."
789
00:52:45,370 --> 00:52:50,242
‐ "It's your breasts.
Do you know who I am?"
790
00:52:50,242 --> 00:52:53,012
And I said, "Yeah."
791
00:52:53,012 --> 00:52:55,614
And he said, "Do you know who I am?"
792
00:52:55,614 --> 00:52:58,751
‐ I did the worst massage ever,
793
00:52:58,751 --> 00:53:03,355
and I could see that my massage
794
00:53:03,355 --> 00:53:07,459
had actually had more effect
than I would have expected.
795
00:53:07,459 --> 00:53:11,959
That was when my
survival instincts kicked in
796
00:53:11,959 --> 00:53:13,499
and I got the heck out of there.
797
00:53:13,499 --> 00:53:17,736
‐ He said, "You know, I can make
your career or I can break your career.
798
00:53:17,736 --> 00:53:21,607
I can make it where you will never work
in this business again."
799
00:53:21,607 --> 00:53:25,210
And he said, "So show me your breasts."
800
00:53:25,210 --> 00:53:27,346
And I said, "No, I don't do that."
801
00:53:27,346 --> 00:53:29,982
And then he says, "The building's locked.
802
00:53:29,982 --> 00:53:32,118
"You can't get out that way.
803
00:53:32,118 --> 00:53:34,987
You can't get out at all
unless you go down there."
804
00:53:34,987 --> 00:53:39,291
And he pointed past him
at the end of the hall,
805
00:53:39,291 --> 00:53:42,195
which was a door, a stairwell door.
806
00:53:42,195 --> 00:53:43,863
♪
807
00:53:46,398 --> 00:53:48,701
I don't know if anybody
is going to answer the door.
808
00:53:48,701 --> 00:53:52,404
I don't know if he's
gonna come in looking for me.
809
00:53:52,404 --> 00:53:55,340
He knows that I have
total night blindness.
810
00:53:55,340 --> 00:53:58,044
So he knew when I went down
that stair,
811
00:53:58,044 --> 00:54:01,214
it was totally black, totally, totally,
totally black.
812
00:54:02,648 --> 00:54:06,219
DE LA HUERTA:
He... He pulled my dress up,
813
00:54:06,219 --> 00:54:09,521
and I was just terrified.
814
00:54:12,591 --> 00:54:14,894
I didn't kick and scream.
815
00:54:16,195 --> 00:54:20,499
DULANY: The freeze thing kicks in,
like you just want it to be over,
816
00:54:20,499 --> 00:54:22,902
and you don't want to be...
817
00:54:26,872 --> 00:54:30,176
You're‐‐ You're worried
you're gonna get hurt, you know?
818
00:54:32,277 --> 00:54:36,348
‐ When you read about rape,
you read, "Okay, well,
819
00:54:36,348 --> 00:54:42,721
the girl says‐‐ screams 'No!'
and she kicks and screams and..."
820
00:54:42,721 --> 00:54:44,957
But that's not exactly right.
821
00:54:44,957 --> 00:54:50,429
The way in which he overpowered me
822
00:54:51,597 --> 00:54:54,066
left me no way out.
823
00:54:56,301 --> 00:54:58,938
Um, so...
824
00:54:58,938 --> 00:55:02,641
So Harvey performed oral sex on me,
825
00:55:02,641 --> 00:55:06,512
um... forcibly...
826
00:55:09,182 --> 00:55:10,208
um...
827
00:55:12,384 --> 00:55:14,987
or... without my consent,
828
00:55:14,987 --> 00:55:17,589
um, and I didn't really know what to do,
829
00:55:17,589 --> 00:55:22,828
and I was terrified
that he was going to rape me.
830
00:55:22,828 --> 00:55:25,364
I was really scared of being penetrated,
831
00:55:25,364 --> 00:55:26,632
of being... being raped,
832
00:55:26,632 --> 00:55:28,701
of having him on top of me,
833
00:55:28,701 --> 00:55:30,536
so I just froze.
834
00:55:32,437 --> 00:55:34,874
I definitely went somewhere else.
835
00:55:34,874 --> 00:55:38,911
DE LA HUERTA: It's almost like
I was hovering over my body,
836
00:55:38,911 --> 00:55:40,813
and this thing was happening to me.
837
00:55:40,813 --> 00:55:43,415
‐ This is happening
and then it's going to be over,
838
00:55:43,415 --> 00:55:45,551
and then it's...
839
00:55:45,551 --> 00:55:47,586
I'm, I'll never, never think of‐‐
840
00:55:47,586 --> 00:55:50,355
It's just, I'll cut it out of me somehow.
841
00:55:54,060 --> 00:55:58,564
KLATT: And there was like
a little Hispanic maintenance man,
842
00:55:58,564 --> 00:56:03,602
and first thing he asked me,
"Are you coming from the fourth floor?"
843
00:56:05,404 --> 00:56:07,940
‐ Just, you know, he‐‐
then he masturbated and...
844
00:56:10,609 --> 00:56:11,877
finished.
845
00:56:11,877 --> 00:56:17,683
‐ I knew I was going to be in trouble
because I didn't participate, I knew it.
846
00:56:17,683 --> 00:56:19,818
And then when I tried to tell people,
847
00:56:19,818 --> 00:56:21,520
they said, "You better keep
your mouth shut."
848
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,224
‐ I didn't go to the police
because I was terrified
849
00:56:25,224 --> 00:56:30,429
he would destroy me,
and he would say it was consensual,
850
00:56:30,429 --> 00:56:33,599
and he would say that I was a whore
and I was lying.
851
00:56:35,634 --> 00:56:38,237
DULANY:
What I remember is leaving,
852
00:56:38,237 --> 00:56:41,573
and at the bottom of the staircase
were people that worked for him
853
00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:45,344
waiting to go in to see him.
854
00:56:47,813 --> 00:56:49,615
I don't know, I don't know
what they thought.
855
00:56:49,615 --> 00:56:51,016
I don't know what they knew.
856
00:56:51,016 --> 00:56:53,018
♪
857
00:57:02,527 --> 00:57:04,930
LAUREN O'CONNOR: I travelled
with Harvey quite frequently.
858
00:57:04,930 --> 00:57:10,970
And there was this one time
where I made a mistake.
859
00:57:10,970 --> 00:57:16,409
He said, "You're smart enough to be me
and if you don't want to be me,
860
00:57:16,409 --> 00:57:18,043
"you're wasting your time.
861
00:57:18,043 --> 00:57:21,147
"Why don't you just go marry
some fat rich Jewish fuck
862
00:57:21,147 --> 00:57:23,882
'cause maybe all you're good for
is making babies."
863
00:57:29,155 --> 00:57:32,091
You're an employee,
you're not in a position
864
00:57:32,091 --> 00:57:37,562
to question your boss's intentions.
865
00:57:42,568 --> 00:57:44,503
You know, I would have been fired.
866
00:57:44,503 --> 00:57:47,139
‐ When Harvey was meeting with
these women, he would send us all away,
867
00:57:47,139 --> 00:57:50,076
and we would get summoned back
long after these women were gone.
868
00:57:50,076 --> 00:57:53,812
My take on these relationships was
some sort of agreement had happened.
869
00:57:55,114 --> 00:57:57,417
O'CONNOR: There's this knocking
on my hotel room door.
870
00:57:59,285 --> 00:58:03,689
There's this woman standing there
and she's shaking and she's crying.
871
00:58:03,689 --> 00:58:08,894
And, you know, so I invite her in
and I ask her what's wrong,
872
00:58:08,894 --> 00:58:12,564
and it took her a while to start talking,
873
00:58:12,564 --> 00:58:16,735
and she tells me, you know,
874
00:58:16,735 --> 00:58:21,140
that he had coerced her
into giving him a massage,
875
00:58:21,140 --> 00:58:23,542
and he didn't listen to her say no.
876
00:58:23,542 --> 00:58:25,378
You have to do something.
877
00:58:29,949 --> 00:58:33,886
So I filed a complaint that would later
be referred to as "the memo."
878
00:58:35,955 --> 00:58:39,358
And I hoped that by putting this,
putting...
879
00:58:41,394 --> 00:58:44,529
the experiences I and others had
in writing,
880
00:58:44,529 --> 00:58:47,933
the person reading the memo
wouldn't be able to look away,
881
00:58:47,933 --> 00:58:50,869
that they couldn't unsee or unknow.
882
00:58:59,111 --> 00:59:03,182
ABBY EX: I started in publicity, so I saw
a lot about how the machine works
883
00:59:03,182 --> 00:59:05,184
in terms of burying scandals.
884
00:59:05,184 --> 00:59:08,553
The people higher up, closer to Harvey,
in a business capacity,
885
00:59:08,553 --> 00:59:12,492
were the ones who dealt with
the outside lawyers and, um, settlements.
886
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,863
DECLESIS:
Being complicit doesn't necessarily mean
887
00:59:17,863 --> 00:59:20,166
you have to take part in it.
888
00:59:20,166 --> 00:59:23,869
By keeping quiet,
I believe you're also complicit.
889
00:59:23,869 --> 00:59:27,173
Why would you do that?
890
00:59:27,173 --> 00:59:29,908
Money.
891
00:59:29,908 --> 00:59:31,243
Money power.
892
00:59:32,611 --> 00:59:35,714
It's much easier to just go with the flow.
893
00:59:35,714 --> 00:59:38,284
You know, keep everything the way it is.
894
00:59:38,284 --> 00:59:41,287
Don't rock the boat because
everybody's getting a piece of it.
895
00:59:41,287 --> 00:59:42,721
♪
896
00:59:42,721 --> 00:59:46,758
AULETTA: When you think about
the complicity of the Hollywood community,
897
00:59:46,758 --> 00:59:49,428
agents were guilty of that,
898
00:59:49,428 --> 00:59:52,131
as were some studio heads,
as were some producers,
899
00:59:52,131 --> 00:59:56,569
as were some directors and actors
and actresses and staffers.
900
00:59:59,438 --> 01:00:00,540
[ sighs ]
901
01:00:05,610 --> 01:00:11,517
‐ I feel so conflicted
about my experience with Harvey.
902
01:00:14,619 --> 01:00:19,658
My life is better for having worked
with Harvey Weinstein.
903
01:00:19,658 --> 01:00:22,161
Those of us who were on the Harvey train
904
01:00:22,161 --> 01:00:23,795
got a lot out of it.
905
01:00:23,795 --> 01:00:27,866
We were taken to all kinds
of amazing places
906
01:00:27,866 --> 01:00:30,169
and allowed to do all kinds
of amazing things,
907
01:00:30,169 --> 01:00:36,108
and now we all feel this survivor guilt
908
01:00:36,108 --> 01:00:39,512
for having experienced positive things
909
01:00:39,512 --> 01:00:41,581
and now realizing all the negative things
910
01:00:41,581 --> 01:00:45,184
that other people were experiencing
at the same time.
911
01:00:47,686 --> 01:00:53,426
I never experienced Harvey being
inappropriate with an actress,
912
01:00:53,426 --> 01:00:57,696
but I certainly heard rumors
913
01:00:57,696 --> 01:01:01,967
that there were actresses who were
sleeping with Harvey to get better roles.
914
01:01:01,967 --> 01:01:03,936
♪
915
01:01:08,174 --> 01:01:10,610
‐ There was always
a kind of list of people
916
01:01:10,610 --> 01:01:13,946
who'd just gotten big roles
who got gossiped about.
917
01:01:16,015 --> 01:01:21,053
The way the gossip was communicated was,
"She slept with Harvey to get that part."
918
01:01:21,053 --> 01:01:22,622
It was never communicated as,
919
01:01:22,622 --> 01:01:24,690
"Oh yeah, you heard he slept with her."
920
01:01:24,690 --> 01:01:30,129
It was always the woman as the person
who had done the action.
921
01:01:30,129 --> 01:01:34,534
"She blew Harvey, she fucked Harvey,
she slept with Harvey to get that part."
922
01:01:34,534 --> 01:01:36,536
♪
923
01:01:38,538 --> 01:01:41,255
ROSENBAUM:
So a few years went by.
924
01:01:41,255 --> 01:01:45,545
I had, I thought, made my peace
with what had happened
925
01:01:45,545 --> 01:01:47,246
and with how I'd handled myself.
926
01:01:47,246 --> 01:01:52,585
And I called every six months,
927
01:01:52,585 --> 01:01:56,455
or a year, just to say,
"Hello, this is Erika Rosenbaum.
928
01:01:56,455 --> 01:01:58,824
"I just wanted to let you know
I got a part,
929
01:01:58,824 --> 01:02:01,460
"um, and it went really well.
930
01:02:01,460 --> 01:02:04,196
Um, you asked me to keep
in touch, so here I am."
931
01:02:07,733 --> 01:02:09,602
At one point, he was going to be
932
01:02:09,602 --> 01:02:15,040
at the Toronto International
Film Festival,
933
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:19,193
and he suggested
that I take the time to stop in.
934
01:02:20,212 --> 01:02:23,849
I had been dealing
with a very lovely assistant of his
935
01:02:23,849 --> 01:02:27,620
who eventually asked that I meet them,
936
01:02:27,620 --> 01:02:31,357
uh, in his room before dinner,
because he had to go to a dinner
937
01:02:31,357 --> 01:02:34,360
or a screening or something,
938
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,263
and, uh, and I would have to be
squeezed in.
939
01:02:37,263 --> 01:02:41,734
That seemed reasonable to me,
despite what had happened.
940
01:02:41,734 --> 01:02:44,270
Um, I guess because I had made clear
941
01:02:44,270 --> 01:02:48,507
that I was not that kind of actress,
942
01:02:48,507 --> 01:02:50,008
whatever that means.
943
01:02:50,008 --> 01:02:52,010
♪
944
01:02:54,046 --> 01:02:56,682
The young assistant opened the door.
945
01:02:56,682 --> 01:02:59,385
She looked a little flustered.
946
01:02:59,385 --> 01:03:02,321
Um, and she left,
947
01:03:02,321 --> 01:03:04,256
and she closed the door behind her.
948
01:03:13,031 --> 01:03:18,003
He came out of the bathroom
and he wasn't wearing any pants.
949
01:03:18,003 --> 01:03:21,106
He was wearing a shirt
that just covered his hips.
950
01:03:23,008 --> 01:03:24,644
And I was very...
951
01:03:27,212 --> 01:03:29,982
put off, as you can imagine.
952
01:03:31,049 --> 01:03:34,320
Uh, and also just nervous
953
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,622
because he was clearly distraught
about something
954
01:03:36,622 --> 01:03:39,358
that had nothing to do
with my presence there.
955
01:03:41,694 --> 01:03:46,499
Um, so right away I said,
"It's a bad time.
956
01:03:46,499 --> 01:03:49,435
"I can see you're on your way out.
957
01:03:50,803 --> 01:03:53,305
Let's do this another day."
958
01:03:53,305 --> 01:03:58,678
And I backed towards the door,
and he got quite annoyed
959
01:03:58,678 --> 01:04:02,748
and said, "You're here.
960
01:04:02,748 --> 01:04:07,986
Take‐take the five minutes and...
and let's talk for a second."
961
01:04:07,986 --> 01:04:09,522
And he was like, he said, "Come with me,"
962
01:04:09,522 --> 01:04:11,290
and he asked me to follow him
to the bathroom,
963
01:04:11,290 --> 01:04:17,229
and I said, "No, no, no, I mean, please,
this is not a good time, I'll come back."
964
01:04:18,330 --> 01:04:20,232
Um...
965
01:04:20,232 --> 01:04:22,201
And he insisted that I stay.
966
01:04:24,069 --> 01:04:29,041
And so, although my heart
was pounding and...
967
01:04:30,376 --> 01:04:36,148
I felt like I was
in a dangerous place, I stayed.
968
01:04:36,148 --> 01:04:38,150
Because I thought leaving would be worse.
969
01:04:42,555 --> 01:04:44,657
I followed him into the washroom.
970
01:04:52,598 --> 01:04:55,100
The toilet seat had been broken,
971
01:04:55,100 --> 01:04:56,803
like it had been smashed.
972
01:04:56,803 --> 01:05:00,606
It was a... a solid toilet seat
973
01:05:00,606 --> 01:05:03,743
that had been broken into three pieces,
974
01:05:03,743 --> 01:05:05,678
and there was blood on the seat.
975
01:05:08,247 --> 01:05:12,885
He asked me to face the mirror and said,
"I just want to look at you."
976
01:05:13,919 --> 01:05:18,658
And he put his hand on the back of my neck
977
01:05:18,658 --> 01:05:20,459
and sort of held me in place,
978
01:05:20,459 --> 01:05:23,629
staring at my own face in the mirror,
979
01:05:23,629 --> 01:05:28,434
and he started to touch himself
under his shirt behind me.
980
01:05:32,705 --> 01:05:37,209
And I remember that...
981
01:05:37,209 --> 01:05:41,146
like it's a scene from a bad movie.
982
01:05:41,146 --> 01:05:44,082
Because it's hard to believe
that that was me.
983
01:05:45,918 --> 01:05:48,020
But I remember looking
at myself in the mirror
984
01:05:48,020 --> 01:05:51,357
and seeing him over my right shoulder
985
01:05:54,293 --> 01:05:57,029
and I remember staring at him
and thinking,
986
01:05:57,029 --> 01:06:00,966
if I can just stand still
987
01:06:02,568 --> 01:06:04,603
that maybe it would all go away
988
01:06:04,603 --> 01:06:09,074
or maybe I would disappear or something.
989
01:06:10,342 --> 01:06:13,312
I guess I was just too shocked to move.
990
01:06:16,348 --> 01:06:20,519
And I noticed that he had blood
on his hand.
991
01:06:24,523 --> 01:06:28,828
And I found a way
992
01:06:28,828 --> 01:06:32,998
to say that I had to go,
993
01:06:32,998 --> 01:06:35,334
and I don't think he finished.
994
01:06:35,334 --> 01:06:37,336
♪
995
01:06:53,185 --> 01:06:55,821
[ noisy chatter ]
996
01:06:58,056 --> 01:06:59,825
REPORTER:
Give us the five seconds!
997
01:07:02,027 --> 01:07:04,530
TRAISTER : I was a reporter
at a weekly newspaper in New York
998
01:07:04,530 --> 01:07:05,998
called the New York Observer.
999
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:12,170
I was interested in the cultural changes
happening within Manhattan,
1000
01:07:12,170 --> 01:07:15,942
and Miramax was at the very center
of those cultural changes.
1001
01:07:22,281 --> 01:07:24,984
HUGO:
You've been everything to me, O.
1002
01:07:24,984 --> 01:07:28,353
To me, you're not my friend, man,
you're my brother.
1003
01:07:28,353 --> 01:07:30,422
And when a brother is wronged, so am I.
1004
01:07:30,422 --> 01:07:34,994
TRAISTER: Harvey's company,
Miramax's brother company Dimension,
1005
01:07:34,994 --> 01:07:37,730
had made a movie that was
an update on Othello.
1006
01:07:37,730 --> 01:07:39,031
It was called O,
1007
01:07:39,031 --> 01:07:42,768
and it had a terrific cast of stars
that were very popular at the moment,
1008
01:07:42,768 --> 01:07:46,806
including Mekhi Phifer and Josh Hartnett.
1009
01:07:46,806 --> 01:07:50,142
‐ I've spent the last few days going over
every possible detail, every angle.
1010
01:07:50,142 --> 01:07:53,713
‐ It had everything about it that should
have been released to a great fanfare,
1011
01:07:53,713 --> 01:07:56,515
but the company was holding it
and they were holding it
1012
01:07:56,515 --> 01:08:00,185
during the presidential campaign
of Al Gore and Joe Lieberman.
1013
01:08:02,287 --> 01:08:05,725
They were running this campaign
that had this weird reactionary streak
1014
01:08:05,725 --> 01:08:08,227
of disapproving of violence in the media.
1015
01:08:09,461 --> 01:08:13,666
O was a very violent high school drama.
1016
01:08:13,666 --> 01:08:15,133
HUGO:
He soars above us.
1017
01:08:15,133 --> 01:08:18,437
TRAISTER: The makers of the movie
believed that it was being held back
1018
01:08:18,437 --> 01:08:21,507
because Harvey was so involved
in the Gore‐Lieberman campaign.
1019
01:08:21,507 --> 01:08:24,543
He was hoping that the amount
of money that he was giving
1020
01:08:24,543 --> 01:08:27,914
was going to result
in some kind of political payoff.
1021
01:08:27,914 --> 01:08:29,782
I needed to get a comment from Harvey.
1022
01:08:29,782 --> 01:08:32,919
So my editor sent me to a party
he was hosting
1023
01:08:32,919 --> 01:08:36,221
to accompany a repor‐‐ a fellow reporter
1024
01:08:36,221 --> 01:08:38,624
who was working
as a gossip columnist that night.
1025
01:08:38,624 --> 01:08:41,094
He also happened to be somebody
I was dating at the time.
1026
01:08:41,094 --> 01:08:42,661
[ distant siren wailing ]
1027
01:08:42,661 --> 01:08:44,396
[ muffled party music playing ]
1028
01:08:48,133 --> 01:08:50,263
ALEXANDER GOLDMAN:
Harvey was throwing a party
1029
01:08:50,263 --> 01:08:53,205
for a former MTV VJ
1030
01:08:53,205 --> 01:08:56,408
named Karen Duffy, who went by "Duff."
1031
01:08:56,408 --> 01:09:00,379
And I remember walking in
behind Harvey and his entourage
1032
01:09:00,379 --> 01:09:03,382
and then going and saying,
"Rebecca, you go do your thing."
1033
01:09:03,382 --> 01:09:05,384
[ lively chatter ]
1034
01:09:07,586 --> 01:09:10,790
TRAISTER: I walked right up to Harvey
with my tape recorder out and said,
1035
01:09:10,790 --> 01:09:13,325
"I have a question about the movie O ."
1036
01:09:14,794 --> 01:09:17,496
And he said to me,
"Oh, that's my brother's movie,
1037
01:09:17,496 --> 01:09:20,733
I don't have anything to do with that,"
and then he walked away.
1038
01:09:20,733 --> 01:09:23,736
And I thought to myself,
"Well, that's a nothing comment,
1039
01:09:23,736 --> 01:09:26,238
and I don't believe it,"
but I got the comment,
1040
01:09:26,238 --> 01:09:29,108
which is what I knew I needed to do
in order to be able to publish my story.
1041
01:09:31,944 --> 01:09:34,279
I was sort of putting
my tape recorder away.
1042
01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:36,983
I'd done the one job
I had there that night,
1043
01:09:36,983 --> 01:09:39,752
at which point suddenly
Harvey came back to me,
1044
01:09:39,752 --> 01:09:43,089
and he said, "You can't use that."
1045
01:09:43,089 --> 01:09:46,391
I said, "What do you mean?"
And he said, "That was off the record."
1046
01:09:50,429 --> 01:09:52,937
He started to grab for my tape recorder.
1047
01:09:52,937 --> 01:09:57,603
I just pressed "record"
and held it up to his face,
1048
01:09:57,603 --> 01:09:59,471
and that enraged him more.
1049
01:09:59,471 --> 01:10:03,176
‐ And then the temperature
in the room turns,
1050
01:10:03,176 --> 01:10:05,511
and all of a sudden
I see something go off in Harvey,
1051
01:10:05,511 --> 01:10:09,015
and I see like, you know,
initially some maybe gesticulating,
1052
01:10:09,015 --> 01:10:13,786
and then I hear him yelling
at the top of his lungs,
1053
01:10:14,787 --> 01:10:17,589
"Who let this fucking cunt
into this party?"
1054
01:10:17,589 --> 01:10:19,558
‐ And then he was sort of
half screaming at me
1055
01:10:19,558 --> 01:10:20,826
and half screaming at the rest
of the room,
1056
01:10:20,826 --> 01:10:23,595
"Get this cunt out of here,
this cunt shouldn't be here!
1057
01:10:23,595 --> 01:10:26,532
This‐‐ What is this bitch doing here?
Who let this bitch in?"
1058
01:10:26,532 --> 01:10:30,235
‐ This man is screaming
at the top of his lungs
1059
01:10:30,235 --> 01:10:32,270
at a 23‐year‐old woman who's asking
1060
01:10:32,270 --> 01:10:33,973
a very reasonable question
about his movie,
1061
01:10:33,973 --> 01:10:35,507
and he's calling her a "cunt."
1062
01:10:35,507 --> 01:10:38,510
‐ The thing that scared me was that
it felt like anything was possible.
1063
01:10:38,510 --> 01:10:41,214
Like there was no norm and no rule
1064
01:10:41,214 --> 01:10:43,649
that was gonna say
this is gonna end okay.
1065
01:10:44,050 --> 01:10:47,753
And my colleague and boyfriend,
Andrew, came over
1066
01:10:47,753 --> 01:10:49,922
and said, "Harvey, Harvey,
I'm here to talk to you.
1067
01:10:49,922 --> 01:10:51,224
"I'm, I‐‐ She came with me.
1068
01:10:51,224 --> 01:10:53,492
"I'm the reporter who's assigned
to talk about this party.
1069
01:10:53,492 --> 01:10:55,494
I want to hear about Karen Duffy."
1070
01:10:55,494 --> 01:10:58,797
And I kind of went... [ pants ]
1071
01:10:58,797 --> 01:11:02,601
I... remember I got our bags,
1072
01:11:02,601 --> 01:11:05,171
put my bags, put the bags
over the shoulder [ laughs ],
1073
01:11:05,171 --> 01:11:07,306
and I looked at Andrew and I was like,
1074
01:11:07,306 --> 01:11:09,341
"Wrap it up, we're gonna go, time to go."
1075
01:11:09,341 --> 01:11:12,478
‐ And then I stopped,
and I was like, this is absurd.
1076
01:11:12,478 --> 01:11:15,181
I said, "Harvey, we have treated you well.
1077
01:11:15,181 --> 01:11:19,485
"You have no right to call
somebody like that that name
1078
01:11:19,485 --> 01:11:23,022
in front of these people.
You can't do that."
1079
01:11:23,022 --> 01:11:28,661
‐ [ whispering ]: No, I don't need
an apology, we need to leave.
1080
01:11:28,661 --> 01:11:32,098
[ normal voice ] And what happened
was, as soon as Andrew said,
1081
01:11:32,098 --> 01:11:36,368
"You owe her an apology," he went‐‐
it's like the switch flipped back.
1082
01:11:36,368 --> 01:11:38,104
‐ He said...
1083
01:11:38,104 --> 01:11:39,471
[ tape player clicks on ]
1084
01:11:41,274 --> 01:11:42,608
[ Harvey speaking ]
1085
01:11:46,912 --> 01:11:48,447
[ tape player clicks off ]
1086
01:11:49,248 --> 01:11:52,351
‐ And it's at that moment he looks down
1087
01:11:52,351 --> 01:11:54,153
and I think he sees
that my recorder is going,
1088
01:11:54,153 --> 01:11:57,056
and he realizes that I've just got
like the money quote of all time.
1089
01:11:57,056 --> 01:11:59,058
♪
1090
01:12:02,995 --> 01:12:05,064
TRAISTER:
He started screaming.
1091
01:12:05,064 --> 01:12:08,201
He pushes him down the couple of steps
and Andrew falls backwards.
1092
01:12:08,201 --> 01:12:11,204
‐ And everybody I think is aghast,
looking like, what the hell is‐‐
1093
01:12:11,204 --> 01:12:15,674
The host of the party is like wrestling
with some junior reporter
1094
01:12:15,674 --> 01:12:17,576
over a tape recorder,
and we go back and forth,
1095
01:12:17,576 --> 01:12:19,078
and he's intent that he's gonna
get this thing,
1096
01:12:19,078 --> 01:12:22,014
and I'm like, I'm not going
to let him get this tape recorder
1097
01:12:22,014 --> 01:12:23,716
'cause it has the best quote ever.
1098
01:12:23,716 --> 01:12:26,252
‐ He grabs Andrew and pulls him
through the party,
1099
01:12:26,252 --> 01:12:29,655
out the glass door,
onto Sixth Avenue in Manhattan,
1100
01:12:29,655 --> 01:12:34,126
and puts him in a headlock
and starts pounding the top of his head.
1101
01:12:34,126 --> 01:12:37,730
‐ A crowd has gathered around us
1102
01:12:37,730 --> 01:12:40,399
and it's like, you know,
this schoolyard fight or something,
1103
01:12:40,399 --> 01:12:43,736
and I just remember how surreal it was.
1104
01:12:43,736 --> 01:12:46,705
I was thinking to myself,
can this possibly be re‐‐
1105
01:12:46,705 --> 01:12:50,042
Does Harvey Weinstein
really have me in a headlock?
1106
01:12:50,042 --> 01:12:53,846
‐ The flashes are going off, and there
are a million pictures being taken.
1107
01:12:53,846 --> 01:12:56,815
‐ How can this not be the cover
of, you know, the New York Post,
1108
01:12:56,815 --> 01:12:58,184
the New York Daily News?
1109
01:12:58,184 --> 01:12:59,451
I mean, it was like the money sh‐‐
1110
01:12:59,451 --> 01:13:03,289
It's the shot that any tabloid editor
would be dreaming of.
1111
01:13:03,289 --> 01:13:05,524
Think about it,
who wouldn't put that on the cover?
1112
01:13:06,425 --> 01:13:07,927
[ door squeaking ]
1113
01:13:11,130 --> 01:13:13,799
TRAISTER: I never saw a photograph
from that night.
1114
01:13:14,867 --> 01:13:16,568
I've never to this day.
1115
01:13:16,568 --> 01:13:20,672
I haven't seen a photograph,
and I know there were hundreds taken.
1116
01:13:20,672 --> 01:13:23,075
‐ This is like... magic.
1117
01:13:23,075 --> 01:13:26,946
This is like, you know, Tinseltown magic.
1118
01:13:26,946 --> 01:13:29,448
‐ My editor in chief,
1119
01:13:29,448 --> 01:13:32,184
a man I deeply respected,
1120
01:13:33,452 --> 01:13:36,122
said, "Do not offer comment
on this, Rebecca.
1121
01:13:36,122 --> 01:13:41,927
Harvey's never going anywhere," he said.
"Harvey's Russia, don't write about it."
1122
01:13:41,927 --> 01:13:45,697
‐ The lesson I learned was...
1123
01:13:45,697 --> 01:13:47,766
as great as a line as,
1124
01:13:47,766 --> 01:13:52,537
"I'm glad I'm the fucking sheriff
of this shit ass fucking town" is,
1125
01:13:53,572 --> 01:13:55,674
it doesn't work unless
you really are the sheriff,
1126
01:13:55,674 --> 01:13:56,942
and he was at that point.
1127
01:13:56,942 --> 01:13:59,544
He... He could do anything.
1128
01:13:59,544 --> 01:14:02,181
‐ And no‐‐ and no cars, no nothing.
1129
01:14:02,181 --> 01:14:05,284
Otherwise, never any of my shit ever.
1130
01:14:05,284 --> 01:14:08,620
Okay? Or I'll fucking be
all over your asses. Get outta here. Go.
1131
01:14:08,620 --> 01:14:10,222
PHOTOGRAPHER:
All right, have a good night, man.
1132
01:14:10,222 --> 01:14:14,193
‐ If I see one car, me and Bob De Niro
will take care of it but good.
1133
01:14:14,193 --> 01:14:16,262
PHOTOGRAPHER: Have a good night, man.
‐ You'll never work in this town.
1134
01:14:16,262 --> 01:14:18,063
You'll never sell
a fucking photograph anywhere.
1135
01:14:18,063 --> 01:14:19,064
PHOTOGRAPHER:
All right, man.
1136
01:14:19,731 --> 01:14:21,734
♪
1137
01:14:26,339 --> 01:14:29,175
NEWSWOMAN: Mickey Mouse
divorcing a long‐time partner.
1138
01:14:29,175 --> 01:14:30,609
Disney parting ways
1139
01:14:30,609 --> 01:14:34,080
with Miramax co‐founders
Bob and Harvey Weinstein.
1140
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:37,383
While the Weinsteins are walking away
with $140 million
1141
01:14:37,383 --> 01:14:41,354
and the Dimension Films label,
they'll have to give up Miramax.
1142
01:14:44,590 --> 01:14:47,492
KIM MASTERS: They lost that name,
which meant something to them:
1143
01:14:47,492 --> 01:14:49,561
"Miramax," Miriam and Max.
1144
01:14:49,561 --> 01:14:51,030
It was a huge loss.
1145
01:14:51,030 --> 01:14:53,599
They lost that library of films
that they had created.
1146
01:14:54,867 --> 01:14:56,402
That's their legacy.
1147
01:14:58,537 --> 01:15:00,473
When you sell, you know,
you lose your power.
1148
01:15:00,473 --> 01:15:04,143
They're not the first ones to sell
in Hollywood and live to regret.
1149
01:15:04,143 --> 01:15:06,145
♪
1150
01:15:10,616 --> 01:15:14,287
HARVEY: So this begins the path
to our new exciting venture
1151
01:15:14,287 --> 01:15:16,755
without mom and dad's name.
1152
01:15:16,755 --> 01:15:18,624
We still own the name "Dimension"
1153
01:15:18,624 --> 01:15:21,327
and, and if anybody can come up
with a better name
1154
01:15:21,327 --> 01:15:23,629
than the Weinstein Company,
we're all ears.
1155
01:15:23,629 --> 01:15:25,465
[ chuckles ]
1156
01:15:25,465 --> 01:15:27,633
‐ Nothing's better than
the Weinstein brothers,
1157
01:15:27,633 --> 01:15:29,368
so the name is great.
1158
01:15:29,368 --> 01:15:32,138
‐ I mean, that company,
they were much diminished
1159
01:15:32,138 --> 01:15:35,540
and they were trying
to sort of commit more to television.
1160
01:15:35,540 --> 01:15:37,709
They were in trouble
and everybody knew it.
1161
01:15:37,709 --> 01:15:39,711
♪
1162
01:15:42,781 --> 01:15:45,518
SCHMIDT: After they left Disney,
they went through something like
1163
01:15:45,518 --> 01:15:49,955
1.2 billion dollars that was bank money
and bonds and investments
1164
01:15:49,955 --> 01:15:54,660
from investment banks in New York,
and, uh, that writing was on the wall.
1165
01:15:58,464 --> 01:16:00,466
♪
1166
01:16:11,877 --> 01:16:15,147
FARROW: I was working on a story
about the dark side of Hollywood.
1167
01:16:16,115 --> 01:16:18,117
It was gonna be an anthology
of different issues,
1168
01:16:18,117 --> 01:16:21,053
from race to sexual harassment.
1169
01:16:21,053 --> 01:16:22,888
In the course of my reporting,
1170
01:16:22,888 --> 01:16:28,827
I began to find the stories came back
over and over again to one guy.
1171
01:16:28,827 --> 01:16:31,730
Harvey Weinstein was known to be a bully,
1172
01:16:31,730 --> 01:16:36,435
but very quickly when you scratched
the surface of those bullying charges,
1173
01:16:36,435 --> 01:16:39,872
you started to hear stories
about sexual misconduct as well.
1174
01:16:39,872 --> 01:16:45,044
And I realized,
wow, this is a huge, huge story.
1175
01:16:45,044 --> 01:16:48,214
‐ So it's my incredible honor
to present this award,
1176
01:16:48,214 --> 01:16:50,916
uh, to Planned Parenthood's
Champion of the Century,
1177
01:16:50,916 --> 01:16:53,986
my friend, my heroine,
Hillary Rodham Clinton.
1178
01:16:53,986 --> 01:16:55,754
[ loud cheering ]
1179
01:17:02,127 --> 01:17:03,962
TRAISTER:
I was writing about Hillary Clinton
1180
01:17:03,962 --> 01:17:07,766
after the 2016 presidential loss
in the spring of 2017.
1181
01:17:10,069 --> 01:17:11,036
And...
1182
01:17:11,770 --> 01:17:14,574
I saw Harvey for the first time in years.
1183
01:17:17,743 --> 01:17:22,881
I almost couldn't believe,
this guy who had been so familiar to me.
1184
01:17:22,881 --> 01:17:27,386
And I thought, your power is waning.
1185
01:17:27,386 --> 01:17:30,590
Like, your power is on the downswing,
1186
01:17:30,590 --> 01:17:34,659
but you're still... working it.
1187
01:17:35,961 --> 01:17:39,731
You're still wielding it,
whatever power you have, you're here.
1188
01:17:39,731 --> 01:17:41,233
What are you doing here?
1189
01:17:43,802 --> 01:17:46,872
But then I was looking at him
with all these powerful women,
1190
01:17:46,872 --> 01:17:47,973
feminist women.
1191
01:17:49,509 --> 01:17:54,213
You're putting your money
toward protecting yourself,
1192
01:17:54,213 --> 01:17:56,382
positioning yourself as a feminist,
1193
01:17:56,382 --> 01:18:01,153
positioning yourself
as an ally to powerful women.
1194
01:18:01,153 --> 01:18:03,088
This is all part of what your deal is
1195
01:18:03,088 --> 01:18:05,691
and how you've managed
to suppress all this.
1196
01:18:06,859 --> 01:18:10,996
I just stopped thinking that my story
1197
01:18:10,996 --> 01:18:14,033
or the evidence from it was ever going
to be important to anybody
1198
01:18:14,033 --> 01:18:16,854
because nobody was ever gonna
win against this guy.
1199
01:18:16,854 --> 01:18:18,937
♪
1200
01:18:21,974 --> 01:18:26,212
FARROW: When I first started,
women thought it would never emerge,
1201
01:18:26,212 --> 01:18:28,414
let alone emerge and have an impact.
1202
01:18:31,551 --> 01:18:33,619
One of the striking reoccurring themes
1203
01:18:33,619 --> 01:18:36,222
in my conversations with sources
in this story
1204
01:18:36,222 --> 01:18:40,192
was just how terrified they were
of things that sounded like movie plots.
1205
01:18:42,395 --> 01:18:44,230
Spies following them,
1206
01:18:44,230 --> 01:18:46,632
infiltrating their ways
into people's lives.
1207
01:18:46,632 --> 01:18:51,370
And, as I myself started
getting strange and threatening calls,
1208
01:18:51,370 --> 01:18:53,406
this was the absolute truth.
1209
01:18:57,776 --> 01:19:02,114
SOURCE: I think for years Harvey Weinstein
had heard that certain actresses
1210
01:19:02,114 --> 01:19:04,149
and certain people in the industry
might go on record
1211
01:19:04,149 --> 01:19:07,286
and try and accuse him of anything
from sexual assault
1212
01:19:07,286 --> 01:19:08,621
to harassment and bullying,
1213
01:19:08,621 --> 01:19:12,224
and it was a kind of fire fighting
exercise in, on a low level,
1214
01:19:12,224 --> 01:19:14,760
go after one person
and get them to sign an NDA.
1215
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:16,762
[ wind whistling ]
1216
01:19:20,966 --> 01:19:25,705
But in 2016, he'd obviously got wind
of something much bigger.
1217
01:19:25,705 --> 01:19:28,774
There was now a coalition
of people coming together,
1218
01:19:28,774 --> 01:19:31,544
willing to go en masse on record.
1219
01:19:31,544 --> 01:19:34,380
That's why he enlisted
a whole army of people,
1220
01:19:34,380 --> 01:19:36,382
whether journalists, whether lawyers
1221
01:19:36,382 --> 01:19:38,684
or intelligence firms,
'cause he knew this was the big one.
1222
01:19:40,586 --> 01:19:42,388
FARROW:
Harvey was indeed using
1223
01:19:42,388 --> 01:19:46,158
an array of high‐powered
private investigation firms,
1224
01:19:46,158 --> 01:19:51,664
most exotically, uh, a firm predominantly
run by former members of the Massad,
1225
01:19:51,664 --> 01:19:53,132
called Black Cube.
1226
01:19:53,132 --> 01:19:55,134
[ papers rustling ]
1227
01:19:58,771 --> 01:20:01,340
SOURCE: This is the original contract
between Black Cube
1228
01:20:01,340 --> 01:20:03,643
and Harvey Weinstein's law firm.
1229
01:20:04,510 --> 01:20:07,913
And "The primary objective of the project
is to identify the entities
1230
01:20:07,913 --> 01:20:10,516
"behind the negative campaign
against the Client
1231
01:20:10,516 --> 01:20:13,185
and support the Client's efforts
to put a stop to it."
1232
01:20:16,322 --> 01:20:18,824
This is the list of targets
drawn up by Harvey Weinstein
1233
01:20:18,824 --> 01:20:24,029
of people he suspects might be cooperating
with the negative stories about him,
1234
01:20:24,029 --> 01:20:26,932
and this is a profile drawn up
by Black Cube,
1235
01:20:26,932 --> 01:20:29,268
uh, profiling Rosanna Arquette.
1236
01:20:29,268 --> 01:20:31,970
"The Client suspects that Rosanna
is involved in the campaign
1237
01:20:31,970 --> 01:20:35,240
"being waged against him
by disseminating fictitious allegations
1238
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,843
about him to media sources."
1239
01:20:37,843 --> 01:20:41,246
FARROW: This was
an extraordinarily expensive operation.
1240
01:20:41,246 --> 01:20:44,149
You're talking about lawyer after lawyer
1241
01:20:44,149 --> 01:20:47,085
at the highest‐paid echelon
of the legal profession,
1242
01:20:47,085 --> 01:20:49,021
and they're hiring, in turn,
1243
01:20:49,021 --> 01:20:52,525
the priciest private investigation firms
in the world.
1244
01:20:52,525 --> 01:20:56,562
The Black Cube contracts alone
ate up hundreds of thousands of dollars.
1245
01:20:56,562 --> 01:21:01,400
Harvey Weinstein was placing
all of his resources
1246
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,437
into stopping these women
and the reporters looking at the story.
1247
01:21:04,437 --> 01:21:06,439
♪
1248
01:21:10,476 --> 01:21:14,046
Harvey and his private investigators
and lawyers expended a lot of energy
1249
01:21:14,046 --> 01:21:17,784
digging up photos of him looking friendly
with women after alleged assaults.
1250
01:21:20,519 --> 01:21:25,758
This is a particularly nasty tactic
to try to discredit women,
1251
01:21:25,758 --> 01:21:31,397
when the fact is, it is a very typical
feature of sexual assault
1252
01:21:31,397 --> 01:21:34,700
that women are photographed
in a friendly context
1253
01:21:34,700 --> 01:21:37,603
with their alleged attacker afterwards.
1254
01:21:37,603 --> 01:21:41,173
Very often people bury their trauma
and they keep working
1255
01:21:41,173 --> 01:21:43,643
and they keep on walking
those red carpets.
1256
01:21:43,643 --> 01:21:47,045
[ reporters shouting questions to Paz ]
1257
01:21:48,614 --> 01:21:51,450
DE LA HUERTA:
You put on a happy face,
1258
01:21:51,450 --> 01:21:53,118
but inside you're dying.
1259
01:21:54,386 --> 01:21:59,525
It made me feel like I had to reclaim
my sexuality all over again.
1260
01:21:59,525 --> 01:22:06,365
So I wanted to do photo shoots
where I could feel beautiful
1261
01:22:06,365 --> 01:22:09,301
and take it back,
1262
01:22:09,301 --> 01:22:12,070
take back what I believe he stole from me.
1263
01:22:18,344 --> 01:22:21,313
Some of the other women
might look at me and think,
1264
01:22:21,313 --> 01:22:24,082
"Something's wrong with her."
1265
01:22:24,082 --> 01:22:28,921
Like, "Harvey could use
that against her," or something.
1266
01:22:32,725 --> 01:22:37,056
I wanted to feel desirable again.
1267
01:22:37,056 --> 01:22:40,232
People knowing that this pig
had violated me,
1268
01:22:42,668 --> 01:22:47,807
that this monster had been inside me.
1269
01:22:48,875 --> 01:22:50,877
[ distant siren chirping ]
1270
01:22:57,516 --> 01:23:00,419
FARROW: I was being told,
"You still need more women,
1271
01:23:00,419 --> 01:23:03,823
these women are crazy,
you need more credible women,"
1272
01:23:03,823 --> 01:23:06,893
over and over and over again,
no matter how many women were saying
1273
01:23:06,893 --> 01:23:08,394
this had happened to them.
1274
01:23:09,729 --> 01:23:12,197
REPORTER: Harvey Weinstein.
[ Harvey speaking indistinctly ]
1275
01:23:12,197 --> 01:23:13,215
FARROW:
I had to move out of my home.
1276
01:23:13,215 --> 01:23:14,533
I was being followed.
1277
01:23:14,533 --> 01:23:17,469
I had many of the same agents
that went after these women
1278
01:23:17,469 --> 01:23:20,005
coming after me.
1279
01:23:20,005 --> 01:23:25,411
Harvey Weinstein was inundating
my representatives with legal threats.
1280
01:23:25,411 --> 01:23:28,313
I wondered whether I would be able
to get it over the finish line
1281
01:23:28,313 --> 01:23:30,649
or whether I would let down
all of those women who had done
1282
01:23:30,649 --> 01:23:33,619
this incredibly brave thing
trying to expose this.
1283
01:23:34,854 --> 01:23:38,490
So, it was a tremendous
breakthrough moment
1284
01:23:38,490 --> 01:23:42,396
to hear Harvey Weinstein
on that NYPD recording.
1285
01:23:42,396 --> 01:23:45,061
[ tape player clicks on ]
[ Harvey and Ambra Gutierrez speaking ]
1286
01:24:23,836 --> 01:24:25,038
[ tape player clicks off ]
1287
01:24:30,242 --> 01:24:33,078
FARROW:
Once I had that recording in hand,
1288
01:24:33,078 --> 01:24:35,614
it was clear to me that I couldn't stop.
1289
01:24:37,249 --> 01:24:39,284
There was a smoking gun here.
1290
01:24:40,953 --> 01:24:45,391
So I went to Ken Auletta,
a wonderful writer at The New Yorker.
1291
01:24:45,391 --> 01:24:48,293
AULETTA:
Ronan Farrow, who I did not know,
1292
01:24:48,293 --> 01:24:51,630
called me up in the spring of 2017,
1293
01:24:51,630 --> 01:24:55,935
and he said, "I've read
your 2002 profile on Harvey.
1294
01:24:55,935 --> 01:24:58,704
Let me tell you what I'm doing."
1295
01:24:58,704 --> 01:25:01,347
He said to me
that he had eight witnesses,
1296
01:25:01,347 --> 01:25:04,176
people who were willing
to go on the record.
1297
01:25:04,176 --> 01:25:06,478
That's great.
I mean, I could not do that.
1298
01:25:06,478 --> 01:25:09,248
And he had the police tape from Ambra.
1299
01:25:09,248 --> 01:25:12,618
HARVEY [ on tape ]: Please come in.
I'm a very‐‐ I'm a famous guy.
1300
01:25:12,618 --> 01:25:15,721
GUTIERREZ: I'm feeling
very uncomfortable right now.
HARVEY: Please come in now.
1301
01:25:15,721 --> 01:25:18,657
HARVEY: And in one minute.
And if you wanna leave when the guy
comes with my jacket‐‐
1302
01:25:18,657 --> 01:25:20,927
GUTIERREZ:
Why yesterday you touch my breast?
1303
01:25:20,927 --> 01:25:23,195
HARVEY: Oh, please, I'm sorry,
just come on in, I'm used to that.
1304
01:25:23,195 --> 01:25:27,033
FARROW: I think the moment
the New Yorker team heard that audio
1305
01:25:27,033 --> 01:25:31,003
and understood the number
of testimonials that we had about this,
1306
01:25:31,003 --> 01:25:33,205
they said, "Okay, let's go to the mat.
1307
01:25:33,205 --> 01:25:35,808
Let's get as much as we can together
as fast as we can."
1308
01:25:38,077 --> 01:25:40,412
AULETTA:
I would call Ronan or e‐mail him,
1309
01:25:40,412 --> 01:25:43,783
I'd say, "What are you doing?
Wh‐Why isn't this story out?"
1310
01:25:43,783 --> 01:25:45,551
And he said, "Well, we're still working
on the story,"
1311
01:25:45,551 --> 01:25:50,689
and then I hear that
The New York Times is doing a story.
1312
01:25:56,829 --> 01:26:00,800
MEGAN TWOHEY: We had been working
around the clock for days and weeks
1313
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,201
and had barely slept.
1314
01:26:04,436 --> 01:26:08,774
You know, when you are so thick deep
in a, an investigation
1315
01:26:08,774 --> 01:26:11,710
and you're right about
to finally publish the story,
1316
01:26:11,710 --> 01:26:14,413
you can really lose sight
of what you've got
1317
01:26:14,413 --> 01:26:16,149
and what the reaction is gonna be to it.
1318
01:26:19,718 --> 01:26:21,821
JODI KANTOR:
Our biggest fear over the summer
1319
01:26:21,821 --> 01:26:23,555
was not of Harvey Weinstein
1320
01:26:23,555 --> 01:26:27,059
or of the paid spies he used on us
1321
01:26:27,059 --> 01:26:29,829
or about the efforts at intimidation.
1322
01:26:29,829 --> 01:26:31,497
It was the fear of failure
1323
01:26:31,497 --> 01:26:34,266
and the fear that we were going
to fail to get the story,
1324
01:26:34,266 --> 01:26:36,502
and we were going to have to live
with this knowledge
1325
01:26:36,502 --> 01:26:38,971
off the record for the rest of our lives.
1326
01:26:47,013 --> 01:26:49,448
People were really scared to talk.
1327
01:26:49,448 --> 01:26:52,618
Instead there was this kind
of miasma of rumors.
1328
01:26:52,618 --> 01:26:55,554
There were public jokes in pop culture.
1329
01:26:55,554 --> 01:26:56,622
‐ Congratulations.
1330
01:26:56,622 --> 01:27:00,126
You five ladies no longer have to pretend
to be attracted to Harvey Weinstein.
1331
01:27:00,126 --> 01:27:01,560
[ laughter ]
1332
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,663
‐ Oh please, I'm not afraid
of anyone in show business.
1333
01:27:04,663 --> 01:27:07,666
I turned down intercourse
with Harvey Weinstein
1334
01:27:07,666 --> 01:27:10,335
on no less than three occasions‐‐
out of five.
1335
01:27:10,335 --> 01:27:12,805
REPORTER: Do you have any advice
for a young girl moving to Hollywood?
1336
01:27:37,730 --> 01:27:39,732
♪
1337
01:27:50,542 --> 01:27:55,614
O'CONNOR: I am a 28‐year‐old woman
trying to make a living and a career.
1338
01:27:55,614 --> 01:27:59,518
Harvey Weinstein is
a 64‐year‐old world‐famous man
1339
01:27:59,518 --> 01:28:01,854
and this is his company.
1340
01:28:01,854 --> 01:28:05,124
The balance of power is me: zero,
1341
01:28:05,124 --> 01:28:08,094
Harvey Weinstein: 10.
1342
01:28:13,599 --> 01:28:16,135
When I wrote my memo,
1343
01:28:16,135 --> 01:28:19,304
it was because I didn't feel
as if I had a choice.
1344
01:28:22,975 --> 01:28:24,476
You know, when the memo was leaked
1345
01:28:24,476 --> 01:28:27,713
and subsequently published
in The New York Times,
1346
01:28:29,282 --> 01:28:33,719
what I couldn't imagine
or have conceived of
1347
01:28:33,719 --> 01:28:35,988
was the impact it had.
1348
01:28:39,091 --> 01:28:41,060
♪
1349
01:29:23,002 --> 01:29:25,071
ROSENBAUM:
I read it...
1350
01:29:25,071 --> 01:29:27,773
I think with my jaw on the floor.
1351
01:29:30,943 --> 01:29:33,779
They were outlining
the experiences of these women
1352
01:29:35,647 --> 01:29:38,017
as though they were writing about me.
1353
01:29:39,051 --> 01:29:41,787
And I couldn't believe that they were
telling the story.
1354
01:29:44,523 --> 01:29:48,794
The fact that these women had the guts
1355
01:29:48,794 --> 01:29:51,364
to tell the story after all this time,
1356
01:29:51,364 --> 01:29:54,700
and for sure they weren't
the first to try,
1357
01:29:54,700 --> 01:29:58,070
and the machine had squashed the story.
1358
01:30:02,375 --> 01:30:06,411
I can't tell you what it means to me
to see it coming into the light.
1359
01:30:06,411 --> 01:30:08,914
[ radio stations changing ]
1360
01:30:08,914 --> 01:30:10,149
NEWSMAN:
Producer Harvey Weinstein
1361
01:30:10,149 --> 01:30:12,584
is facing multiple
sexual harassment accusations
1362
01:30:12,584 --> 01:30:15,321
that span 30 years
according to The New York Times.
1363
01:30:15,321 --> 01:30:17,156
The Times reporting
that the Miramax co‐founder
1364
01:30:17,156 --> 01:30:20,326
has reached eight settlements
with various accusers.
1365
01:30:20,326 --> 01:30:21,760
NEWSWOMAN:
In a statement, Weinstein says
1366
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,130
he came of age when rules
about behavior were different.
1367
01:30:24,130 --> 01:30:28,634
He says he knows he's caused a lot
of pain and sincerely apologizes.
1368
01:30:32,138 --> 01:30:33,595
D'AMORE:
I don't think he'll ever get it.
1369
01:30:33,595 --> 01:30:35,174
I don't think people like that change.
1370
01:30:37,843 --> 01:30:41,513
They say that about child molesters,
they say it about rapists.
1371
01:30:41,513 --> 01:30:44,583
They don't change,
he just got better at it.
1372
01:30:44,583 --> 01:30:47,452
He just got bolder
1373
01:30:47,452 --> 01:30:51,190
and because he was more powerful
was able to get away with it
1374
01:30:51,190 --> 01:30:55,992
with more women and in...
in more obvious ways.
1375
01:30:55,992 --> 01:30:58,463
MAN: Hold on, hold on.
What are you doing here?
1376
01:30:58,463 --> 01:30:59,498
REPORTER: I'm media.
1377
01:30:59,498 --> 01:31:02,835
NEWSMAN: One of the most powerful men
in Hollywood has been fired,
1378
01:31:02,835 --> 01:31:07,440
effective immediately, by the board
of the studio he co‐founded.
1379
01:31:07,440 --> 01:31:09,608
‐ I'm hanging in there.
I'm trying my best.
1380
01:31:09,608 --> 01:31:11,010
REPORTER: Thank you, man.
1381
01:31:11,010 --> 01:31:13,145
NEWSMAN:
Weinstein's wife announced last night
1382
01:31:13,145 --> 01:31:16,082
she was leaving him
in the light of the allegations.
1383
01:31:16,082 --> 01:31:18,184
REPORTER: We're glad to see
you're doing okay.
1384
01:31:18,184 --> 01:31:20,019
‐ Guys, I'm not doing okay.
1385
01:31:20,019 --> 01:31:23,655
REPORTER: You're not?
‐ But I'm trying. I gotta get help, guys.
1386
01:31:23,655 --> 01:31:26,025
You know what, we all make mistakes.
1387
01:31:26,025 --> 01:31:28,294
Second chance I hope, okay?
1388
01:31:28,294 --> 01:31:30,896
REPORTER: No problem.
HARVEY: Thanks, guys.
1389
01:31:30,896 --> 01:31:33,232
You know what, I've always
been loyal to you guys.
1390
01:31:33,232 --> 01:31:36,269
Not like those fucking pricks
that treat you like shit.
1391
01:31:36,269 --> 01:31:38,570
I've been the good guy.
REPORTER: Have a good one.
1392
01:31:38,570 --> 01:31:40,239
HARVEY: Thank you.
REPORTER: Hope you feel better.
1393
01:31:40,239 --> 01:31:41,340
HARVEY:
Thank you.
1394
01:31:41,340 --> 01:31:43,276
REPORTER: Get some help, man.
HARVEY: Thank you.
1395
01:31:46,678 --> 01:31:48,914
PROSECUTOR: We're happy with
where the investigation is right now.
1396
01:31:48,914 --> 01:31:50,383
We have an actual case here.
1397
01:31:50,383 --> 01:31:52,339
NEWSWOMAN:
The former movie mogul
1398
01:31:52,339 --> 01:31:54,320
surrendering to police in New York City
1399
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:56,389
amid a throng of reporters and cameras.
1400
01:31:56,389 --> 01:31:58,312
TWOHEY:
There were so many things
1401
01:31:58,312 --> 01:32:00,059
that had helped protect him for so long,
1402
01:32:00,059 --> 01:32:01,894
and today in the court room
it really felt
1403
01:32:01,894 --> 01:32:04,063
like those layers of protection fell away.
1404
01:32:04,063 --> 01:32:06,332
KANTOR:
These are not individual experiences,
1405
01:32:06,332 --> 01:32:08,962
they're collective experiences.
1406
01:32:08,962 --> 01:32:12,271
There's a pattern here and starting today,
1407
01:32:12,271 --> 01:32:15,141
he answers to the same system of justice
as the rest of us.
1408
01:32:24,517 --> 01:32:27,052
ROSENBAUM: I watched Wonder Woman
on the flight over here...
1409
01:32:28,587 --> 01:32:34,126
to try to feel heroic [ laughs ]
even when I didn't.
1410
01:32:37,696 --> 01:32:41,900
Chris Pine has this great quote
and he says, um...
1411
01:32:41,900 --> 01:32:44,003
‐ If you see something wrong
happening in the world,
1412
01:32:44,003 --> 01:32:46,172
you can either do nothing
or you can do something...
1413
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:50,343
and I already tried nothing.
1414
01:32:55,181 --> 01:32:59,385
‐ And I went, "Oh yeah, that's perfect."
1415
01:33:03,222 --> 01:33:05,525
[ chanting ]
1416
01:33:07,293 --> 01:33:10,262
NEWSWOMAN: In the midst of a scandal,
two powerful words
1417
01:33:10,262 --> 01:33:11,763
are flooding social media.
1418
01:33:14,133 --> 01:33:16,869
Women across the country
are identifying themselves
1419
01:33:16,869 --> 01:33:18,637
as victims of sexual harassment
1420
01:33:18,637 --> 01:33:21,907
in the wake of Hollywood mogul
Harvey Weinstein's downfall.
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‐ The Harvey Weinstein story
has helped people understand
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that there's a really powerful argument
for speaking up.
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SCHMIDT:
I don't think anyone could have foreseen
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that this would spawn
a worldwide movement.
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It's a different world.
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01:33:42,061 --> 01:33:43,662
It's a better world.
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♪
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EX: What's relatable is how
power structures like this exist
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so other people watching can relate
into their lives,
1430
01:33:57,677 --> 01:34:01,113
because if we could do it in Hollywood,
you know, people can do it anywhere.
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01:34:06,485 --> 01:34:08,554
It's the David and Goliath story.
1432
01:34:08,554 --> 01:34:12,291
The little guy can take down the big guy,
that is totally possible.
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♪
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ARQUETTE:
This is a revolution,
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01:34:16,929 --> 01:34:19,331
so go fuck yourselves.
1436
01:34:19,331 --> 01:34:20,533
You know, how dare you.
1437
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And we are not going to be silenced.
we will not be silenced.
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‐ There's no question, no question
1439
01:34:25,904 --> 01:34:28,007
that Harvey's behavior was monstrous
1440
01:34:28,007 --> 01:34:30,843
and that he, of course,
should be facing legal repercussion.
1441
01:34:32,311 --> 01:34:37,683
But there is a way,
when you pick out the most grotesque
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01:34:37,683 --> 01:34:40,819
and then you fire them,
1443
01:34:40,819 --> 01:34:42,888
maybe you send them to jail,
1444
01:34:42,888 --> 01:34:45,658
maybe you banish them from their industry,
1445
01:34:45,658 --> 01:34:48,760
and then there's the sense that,
"Okay, we've taken care of the problem."
1446
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:52,264
‐ Just, you know, locking up an individual
isn't going to solve the problem,
1447
01:34:52,264 --> 01:34:54,266
and the most sinister aspect
of all of this
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01:34:54,266 --> 01:34:59,980
is that the system enabled it,
you know, um, and still enables it.
1449
01:34:59,980 --> 01:35:02,007
‐ There are going to be hundreds
of these cases
1450
01:35:02,007 --> 01:35:04,544
happening around the country
in lots of different industries.
1451
01:35:06,312 --> 01:35:08,414
And these women are
going to be attacked.
1452
01:35:10,383 --> 01:35:11,750
Undermined, discredited.
1453
01:35:13,386 --> 01:35:14,987
That's absolutely going to happen.
1454
01:35:17,690 --> 01:35:22,261
FARROW: It's easy to forget just
how recently it seemed impossible
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01:35:22,261 --> 01:35:24,463
to talk about Harvey Weinstein.
1456
01:35:24,463 --> 01:35:27,366
There is a Harvey Weinstein
in every industry,
1457
01:35:27,366 --> 01:35:30,869
and there are people
who are still vastly powerful
1458
01:35:30,869 --> 01:35:35,274
and around whom people
are still terrified to tell the truth.
1459
01:35:37,577 --> 01:35:42,682
So after this interview, I'll go back
to struggling with brave sources
1460
01:35:42,682 --> 01:35:44,750
to see if they're willing
to take that risk
1461
01:35:44,750 --> 01:35:47,353
of putting their name on tough stories.
1462
01:35:47,353 --> 01:35:49,888
That challenge still goes on every day
1463
01:35:49,888 --> 01:35:52,725
for people facing abuse
all over the world.
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01:36:13,045 --> 01:36:14,714
DE LA HUERTA:
It's not over.
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01:36:17,683 --> 01:36:19,051
It continues.
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♪
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♪
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♪
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♪