1 00:00:01,896 --> 00:00:07,896 [suspenseful music playing] 2 00:00:07,896 --> 00:00:08,689 [narrator] In Vermont... 3 00:00:08,758 --> 00:00:09,586 [Skylar speaking] 4 00:00:09,586 --> 00:00:10,586 [narrator] A simple arrest... 5 00:00:10,586 --> 00:00:11,586 [Skylar speaking] 6 00:00:11,586 --> 00:00:13,482 [narrator] Leads to a shocking showdown. 7 00:00:13,551 --> 00:00:15,862 [Gabriel speaking] 8 00:00:16,827 --> 00:00:18,482 [Wayne] [indistinct] get out! 9 00:00:18,551 --> 00:00:20,482 [Gabriel speaking] 10 00:00:20,482 --> 00:00:21,896 I thought I was going to die. 11 00:00:21,965 --> 00:00:23,068 [narrator] In Wisconsin... 12 00:00:23,793 --> 00:00:25,896 [Mack speaking] 13 00:00:25,896 --> 00:00:29,000 [narrator] A pastor gets a wild lesson in law enforcement. 14 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,482 [Jody speaking] 15 00:00:30,551 --> 00:00:32,896 I am wondering, "Am I going to hear gunshots? 16 00:00:32,896 --> 00:00:34,275 How's this going to end?" 17 00:00:34,275 --> 00:00:36,000 [police sirens wailing] 18 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,172 [narrator] And in Anderson, Indiana... 19 00:00:38,172 --> 00:00:39,379 -[man speaking] -[John speaking] 20 00:00:39,379 --> 00:00:40,275 [man speaking] 21 00:00:40,344 --> 00:00:41,586 [narrator] A citizen's tip off... 22 00:00:41,586 --> 00:00:43,275 [John speaking] 23 00:00:43,344 --> 00:00:44,379 [narrator] Turns deadly. 24 00:00:44,379 --> 00:00:46,379 [John speaking] 25 00:00:46,448 --> 00:00:47,586 [gunshots] 26 00:00:47,655 --> 00:00:49,000 [John speaking] 27 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,172 I was shocked. 28 00:00:50,172 --> 00:00:51,689 He wasn't in the same world 29 00:00:51,758 --> 00:00:53,068 that I was in. 30 00:00:53,827 --> 00:00:56,758 [indistinct radio chatter] 31 00:00:58,103 --> 00:00:59,689 [man] Jeff [indistinct] outside. 32 00:00:59,758 --> 00:01:02,896 [suspenseful music playing] 33 00:01:04,310 --> 00:01:05,862 [narrator] In Vermont... 34 00:01:06,586 --> 00:01:09,068 just south of the Canadian border 35 00:01:10,379 --> 00:01:12,068 is Caledonia County. 36 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,000 This rural forest and terrain 37 00:01:20,033 --> 00:01:22,379 is patrolled by the state police. 38 00:01:22,448 --> 00:01:25,068 [dramatic music playing] 39 00:01:27,827 --> 00:01:30,275 I've been a Vermont State Trooper since of 2020 40 00:01:30,344 --> 00:01:32,137 and I can't imagine doing anything else. 41 00:01:33,172 --> 00:01:35,344 I have the freedom to go wherever I want. 42 00:01:36,310 --> 00:01:38,000 You can do highway enforcement 43 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,586 or you can take calls. 44 00:01:42,103 --> 00:01:43,482 I've known Trooper Schrauf 45 00:01:43,482 --> 00:01:46,103 since he's come on the job. 46 00:01:46,103 --> 00:01:48,172 I still consider him a young trooper, 47 00:01:48,241 --> 00:01:50,586 'cause he's only been here for a few years. 48 00:01:50,586 --> 00:01:53,689 [dramatic music playing] 49 00:01:55,103 --> 00:01:57,378 [narrator] Trooper Schrauf is called out to assist 50 00:01:57,378 --> 00:01:59,275 with the arrest of 24-year-old 51 00:01:59,275 --> 00:02:00,793 Brandon Tallman 52 00:02:00,793 --> 00:02:02,655 for an incident two nights earlier. 53 00:02:03,379 --> 00:02:04,689 [Matthew D] Brandon was driving 54 00:02:04,758 --> 00:02:06,793 at an elevated speed. 55 00:02:06,793 --> 00:02:08,689 An individual was outside their house, 56 00:02:08,689 --> 00:02:10,000 yelled something or motioned 57 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,793 for Brandon to slow down. 58 00:02:11,793 --> 00:02:14,000 Brandon got out of his car 59 00:02:14,034 --> 00:02:16,000 and went over and physically assaulted 60 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,862 the individual quite violently. 61 00:02:18,482 --> 00:02:21,000 Brandon then, gets back in his car 62 00:02:21,034 --> 00:02:22,172 and takes off. 63 00:02:23,827 --> 00:02:25,172 [narrator] Trooper Schrauf heads out 64 00:02:25,172 --> 00:02:27,896 to help Trooper Velasquez locate Tallman 65 00:02:27,896 --> 00:02:30,137 at his remote residence. 66 00:02:31,793 --> 00:02:33,275 [Gabriel] So, a couple things that you're thinking about 67 00:02:33,275 --> 00:02:35,896 while going en route to this scene is, you know, 68 00:02:35,896 --> 00:02:38,000 "Safety, what's the scenario like, 69 00:02:38,034 --> 00:02:39,482 and then what's the offender like. 70 00:02:39,482 --> 00:02:40,793 So, does he have a history 71 00:02:40,793 --> 00:02:42,275 with fighting with law enforcement? 72 00:02:42,344 --> 00:02:44,896 And then where is this gonna be located?" 73 00:02:44,896 --> 00:02:47,067 So when I pulled up to the property with Trooper Velasquez, 74 00:02:47,137 --> 00:02:48,586 the first thing I saw was 75 00:02:48,655 --> 00:02:50,172 a well-landscaped property, 76 00:02:50,172 --> 00:02:53,000 a nice house, and a large piece of equipment, 77 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,482 and several F-350 trucks, so. 78 00:02:55,551 --> 00:02:57,448 I knew they had some money or a business. 79 00:02:58,310 --> 00:03:01,275 [Skylar speaking] 80 00:03:01,344 --> 00:03:02,586 [Brandon speaking] 81 00:03:02,586 --> 00:03:03,793 -[Skylar] All right. -[indistinct radio chatter] 82 00:03:03,793 --> 00:03:04,862 [Skylar speaking] 83 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,068 -[Skylar speaking] -Yeah. 84 00:03:07,137 --> 00:03:08,172 -[Skylar speaking] -Yeah. 85 00:03:08,241 --> 00:03:09,896 [Skylar speaking] 86 00:03:09,965 --> 00:03:11,379 -[Brandon] Yeah. -[Skylar speaking] 87 00:03:11,448 --> 00:03:13,103 Brandon was just answering questions 88 00:03:13,103 --> 00:03:16,137 and didn't seem too agitated or aggravated. 89 00:03:17,275 --> 00:03:19,000 I'm kinda standing back just making sure 90 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,172 that I don't see any other people on scene. 91 00:03:22,241 --> 00:03:24,896 And then I did notice that Brandon Tallman's father, 92 00:03:24,896 --> 00:03:26,068 Wayne, was there. 93 00:03:27,310 --> 00:03:29,172 [Skylar speaking] 94 00:03:29,241 --> 00:03:30,586 -[Brandon speaking] -[Skylar speaking] 95 00:03:30,586 --> 00:03:31,896 -[Brandon speaking] -[Skylar speaking] 96 00:03:31,896 --> 00:03:33,379 -[Brandon speaking] -[Skylar speaking] 97 00:03:33,379 --> 00:03:35,172 [Brandon speaking] 98 00:03:35,241 --> 00:03:36,275 [Skylar speaking] 99 00:03:36,275 --> 00:03:37,482 And then the father, Wayne, 100 00:03:37,482 --> 00:03:38,586 immediately ran up to us 101 00:03:38,586 --> 00:03:40,103 and started pushing on both of us, 102 00:03:40,103 --> 00:03:42,103 and ripped Trooper Velasquez's body camera off. 103 00:03:42,103 --> 00:03:43,172 [Skylar speaking] 104 00:03:43,172 --> 00:03:46,000 [Brandon speaking] 105 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,172 [Gabriel speaking] 106 00:03:48,241 --> 00:03:50,172 So when Wayne became very agitated, 107 00:03:50,172 --> 00:03:52,793 he pointed at me and Trooper Velasquez and he said, 108 00:03:52,793 --> 00:03:55,275 "I'm going to bore a hole through you 109 00:03:55,275 --> 00:03:57,448 and then crush both of your cruisers and kill you." 110 00:03:59,206 --> 00:04:02,000 In my head, initially, I was like, "With what?" 111 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,896 [indistinct chatter] 112 00:04:04,965 --> 00:04:08,000 [Gabriel speaking] 113 00:04:08,896 --> 00:04:11,172 [Wayne speaking] 114 00:04:11,172 --> 00:04:12,586 So, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. 115 00:04:13,793 --> 00:04:15,379 He's got an excavator. 116 00:04:15,379 --> 00:04:17,172 It's crazy. 117 00:04:17,172 --> 00:04:18,896 [narrator] Trooper Schrauf activates 118 00:04:18,964 --> 00:04:20,896 his body and dash cams. 119 00:04:20,964 --> 00:04:22,586 But now, Brandon's mom, 120 00:04:22,586 --> 00:04:24,689 Amy, is also getting involved. 121 00:04:24,689 --> 00:04:25,793 -[Gabriel] We need to take him-- -[Amy speaking] 122 00:04:25,793 --> 00:04:26,793 [Gabriel speaking] 123 00:04:28,620 --> 00:04:30,896 I was very surprised. 124 00:04:30,896 --> 00:04:33,586 That is definitely something I have not encountered. 125 00:04:33,586 --> 00:04:35,379 We're just trying to get Brandon into custody 126 00:04:35,379 --> 00:04:36,793 but we've got, you know, 127 00:04:36,793 --> 00:04:39,000 Amy pulling on Brandon one way 128 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,275 and we were both trying to, you know, wrestle him 129 00:04:41,275 --> 00:04:43,275 a certain direction to try to get him into handcuffs. 130 00:04:43,275 --> 00:04:45,482 -[Brandon] Dad-- -[Gabriel speaking] 131 00:04:47,689 --> 00:04:49,344 [Wayne speaking] 132 00:04:50,517 --> 00:04:53,689 [Gabriel speaking] 133 00:04:53,689 --> 00:04:55,000 -[Brandon speaking] -[Gabriel speaking] 134 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,482 Stop. 135 00:04:56,482 --> 00:04:58,655 -[Gabriel speaking] -[Brandon] [bleep]. 136 00:05:00,517 --> 00:05:01,896 [Wayne speaking] 137 00:05:01,965 --> 00:05:04,172 [Gabriel speaking] 138 00:05:04,172 --> 00:05:06,172 When the excavator started coming at me, 139 00:05:06,241 --> 00:05:09,344 it was a mix of between shock, confusion, and terror. 140 00:05:10,275 --> 00:05:11,586 -[Gabriel speaking] -[Wayne speaking] 141 00:05:11,586 --> 00:05:13,896 [Brandon speaking] 142 00:05:13,896 --> 00:05:15,586 -[Gabriel speaking] -[Amy speaking] 143 00:05:15,586 --> 00:05:17,241 [Gabriel speaking] 144 00:05:19,620 --> 00:05:20,896 -Please stop. -[Wayne speaking] 145 00:05:20,965 --> 00:05:23,103 -Are you bringing-- -[Gabriel speaking] 146 00:05:23,103 --> 00:05:24,379 -Do not choke him. -I'm not trying to choke him. 147 00:05:24,379 --> 00:05:25,793 [Gabriel speaking] 148 00:05:25,793 --> 00:05:27,275 [narrator] The situation grows 149 00:05:27,344 --> 00:05:29,344 more dangerous by the minute. 150 00:05:30,310 --> 00:05:33,172 The troopers need to call for back-up, 151 00:05:33,241 --> 00:05:34,758 but it's not that easy. 152 00:05:37,172 --> 00:05:39,655 [Gabriel] We didn't have radio service at this time. 153 00:05:40,793 --> 00:05:43,275 I pushed the emergency button on our radio 154 00:05:43,275 --> 00:05:44,586 that went out over the air, 155 00:05:44,655 --> 00:05:46,896 so all the units in the area heard it. 156 00:05:46,896 --> 00:05:48,793 -[Amy speaking] -[Brandon speaking] 157 00:05:48,793 --> 00:05:50,000 [Gabriel speaking] 158 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,000 [Skylar speaking] 159 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,275 [Gabriel speaking] 160 00:05:53,275 --> 00:05:55,551 10-10 is a police code for fight in progress. 161 00:05:56,275 --> 00:05:58,172 So when an officer calls out 10-10, 162 00:05:58,241 --> 00:06:00,000 a dispatcher takes that very seriously 163 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,689 and knows that they're in trouble and need assistance. 164 00:06:03,482 --> 00:06:05,896 [Gabriel speaking] 165 00:06:05,896 --> 00:06:07,793 When we randomly had a bar out of nowhere 166 00:06:07,793 --> 00:06:09,172 in the middle of nowhere, 167 00:06:09,172 --> 00:06:11,275 dispatch ended up calling me on my cell phone. 168 00:06:11,275 --> 00:06:13,000 [phone rings] 169 00:06:13,034 --> 00:06:14,896 [Gabriel] And it was like God was looking down. 170 00:06:14,896 --> 00:06:16,137 It was crazy. 171 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,000 But back-up was gonna be anywhere from 20 to 30 minutes away. 172 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,586 [indistinct chatter] 173 00:06:22,586 --> 00:06:23,689 [Gabriel speaking] 174 00:06:23,689 --> 00:06:24,896 [Skylar speaking] 175 00:06:24,896 --> 00:06:26,586 [Gabriel speaking] 176 00:06:26,586 --> 00:06:28,275 [indistinct chatter] 177 00:06:28,275 --> 00:06:30,448 [Gabriel speaking] 178 00:06:32,620 --> 00:06:34,586 -[Wayne speaking] -[Gabriel speaking] 179 00:06:34,586 --> 00:06:35,862 [Brandon] [bleep]. 180 00:06:37,586 --> 00:06:39,862 [Gabriel] When he swings the bucket towards me... 181 00:06:41,310 --> 00:06:43,172 yeah, I became terrified. 182 00:06:43,172 --> 00:06:44,862 At that time, I thought I was going to die. 183 00:06:47,172 --> 00:06:48,482 During a situation like this, 184 00:06:48,482 --> 00:06:50,103 you're constantly weighing your head, 185 00:06:50,103 --> 00:06:51,482 "What's the line in the sand before I have 186 00:06:51,482 --> 00:06:54,172 to escalate this to deadly force?" 187 00:06:54,172 --> 00:06:56,379 Once he came at me with the excavator in that manner, 188 00:06:56,379 --> 00:06:58,551 I knew that we had reached that. 189 00:06:59,793 --> 00:07:02,068 If he comes another two feet closer, 190 00:07:02,137 --> 00:07:04,103 I'm gonna have to pull the trigger. 191 00:07:04,103 --> 00:07:05,689 -[Gabriel speaking] -[Amy] Do not choke him. 192 00:07:05,758 --> 00:07:07,689 -[Gabriel speaking] -[Amy] Do not choke my son. 193 00:07:07,758 --> 00:07:10,482 -[Gabriel speaking] -[Amy speaking] 194 00:07:10,482 --> 00:07:12,793 -[Skylar speaking] -[Gabriel] Stop! 195 00:07:12,793 --> 00:07:15,586 [Gabriel speaking] 196 00:07:15,586 --> 00:07:16,896 -[Wayne speaking] -[Gabriel speaking] 197 00:07:16,896 --> 00:07:18,275 -[Wayne speaking] -[Gabriel speaking] 198 00:07:18,275 --> 00:07:20,068 -[Wayne speaking] -[Gabriel speaking] 199 00:07:20,068 --> 00:07:21,793 [Brandon] I will find you [bleep]. 200 00:07:21,862 --> 00:07:22,793 [Gabriel speaking] 201 00:07:22,793 --> 00:07:23,793 [Brandon] I will find you [bleep]. 202 00:07:23,793 --> 00:07:25,896 [Gabriel speaking] 203 00:07:25,896 --> 00:07:28,379 [Brandon] You're a [bleep] waste of my time. 204 00:07:28,379 --> 00:07:29,793 [Gabriel] He's just kinda calm. 205 00:07:29,793 --> 00:07:31,379 He's got that crazed look in his eye. 206 00:07:31,379 --> 00:07:33,482 It was very bizarre. I've never seen anything like it. 207 00:07:33,482 --> 00:07:34,896 [Gabriel speaking] 208 00:07:34,896 --> 00:07:36,379 -[Wayne speaking] -[Gabriel speaking] 209 00:07:39,620 --> 00:07:42,482 They're yelling, "Let us take him to the barracks. Let us bring him." 210 00:07:42,482 --> 00:07:44,793 Um, and that, you know, you're trying to reason 'em... 211 00:07:44,793 --> 00:07:46,896 With them that that's not how things work. 212 00:07:46,896 --> 00:07:49,793 -[Wayne speaking] -[Gabriel speaking] 213 00:07:49,862 --> 00:07:51,172 [Wayne speaking] 214 00:07:51,172 --> 00:07:53,793 [Gabriel speaking] 215 00:07:53,862 --> 00:07:56,000 -[Wayne speaking] -[Gabriel speaking] 216 00:07:56,034 --> 00:07:57,379 [Gabriel] We're the state patrol officers. 217 00:07:57,379 --> 00:07:59,172 We're the ones that take him into custody. 218 00:07:59,241 --> 00:08:01,137 [Gabriel speaking] 219 00:08:06,896 --> 00:08:09,172 [Wayne speaking] 220 00:08:09,172 --> 00:08:10,793 [Gabriel speaking] 221 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,172 Listen to me. 222 00:08:15,241 --> 00:08:17,275 [Gabriel speaking] 223 00:08:17,275 --> 00:08:18,482 The real weird thing for me 224 00:08:18,482 --> 00:08:20,068 was just you couldn't believe how... 225 00:08:20,137 --> 00:08:22,275 "Are they out of their mind? Are they crazy?" 226 00:08:22,344 --> 00:08:23,793 We just really don't know what's going on. 227 00:08:23,862 --> 00:08:25,172 -Stop! -[Amy speaking] 228 00:08:25,172 --> 00:08:26,586 -[Gabriel speaking] -Well, I can do it on my own. 229 00:08:26,586 --> 00:08:29,103 [Gabriel speaking] 230 00:08:29,103 --> 00:08:31,482 It was just such a bizarre situation. 231 00:08:31,482 --> 00:08:33,275 -[Gabriel speaking] -[Wayne] No. Put the cuffs on the ground. 232 00:08:33,344 --> 00:08:35,379 -[Gabriel speaking] -[Wayne] [indistinct] cuffs right now. 233 00:08:35,448 --> 00:08:38,068 [Gabriel speaking] 234 00:08:38,895 --> 00:08:40,379 So at this time, I was just kind of 235 00:08:40,379 --> 00:08:42,793 fed up with the situation and I said, you know, 236 00:08:42,861 --> 00:08:44,482 "We're just gonna put Brandon into cuffs." 237 00:08:44,551 --> 00:08:46,172 -[Gabriel speaking] -[Wayne] Now, don't do it. 238 00:08:46,172 --> 00:08:47,896 -[Gabriel speaking] -[Wayne] Now, don't do it. 239 00:08:47,965 --> 00:08:50,482 [Gabriel speaking] 240 00:08:52,275 --> 00:08:54,448 I thought, "Now, I might have to shoot him." 241 00:09:02,172 --> 00:09:04,000 -[Gabriel speaking] -[Wayne] No, don't do it. 242 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,793 -[Gabriel speaking] -[Wayne] Don't do it. 243 00:09:05,793 --> 00:09:07,689 [Gabriel speaking] 244 00:09:10,206 --> 00:09:11,689 Get off of him, ma'am. 245 00:09:11,758 --> 00:09:14,275 -No. No. Listen to me, please. -[Brandon speaking] 246 00:09:14,275 --> 00:09:17,689 I thought this might actually be, you know, his last stand. 247 00:09:17,689 --> 00:09:19,689 He was actually gonna do something now 248 00:09:19,689 --> 00:09:21,758 because we did have his son in custody. 249 00:09:24,758 --> 00:09:27,000 [Wayne speaking] 250 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,586 [Gabriel speaking] 251 00:09:28,586 --> 00:09:31,172 -[Brandon speaking] -[Gabriel speaking] 252 00:09:31,172 --> 00:09:33,379 [Brandon speaking] 253 00:09:33,379 --> 00:09:34,896 -[Gabriel speaking] -[Brandon speaking] 254 00:09:34,896 --> 00:09:38,172 -[Gabriel speaking] -[Brandon speaking] 255 00:09:38,172 --> 00:09:40,275 [Gabriel] When we got Brandon into the Cruiser, 256 00:09:40,275 --> 00:09:42,689 I was very excited because I knew that Trooper Velasquez 257 00:09:42,758 --> 00:09:45,172 and I were able to focus our attention on Wayne and Amy 258 00:09:45,172 --> 00:09:47,482 instead of all of them coming at us at once. 259 00:09:48,896 --> 00:09:50,862 [Gabriel speaking] 260 00:09:50,862 --> 00:09:52,862 -[Wayne speaking] -[Gabriel speaking] 261 00:09:52,931 --> 00:09:56,172 -[Wayne speaking] -[Gabriel speaking] 262 00:09:56,172 --> 00:09:58,172 [Wayne speaking] 263 00:09:58,172 --> 00:09:59,793 [Gabriel] Yeah. 264 00:09:59,793 --> 00:10:03,896 [Gabriel speaking] 265 00:10:03,896 --> 00:10:07,586 [Wayne speaking] 266 00:10:07,655 --> 00:10:10,482 [Skylar speaking] 267 00:10:10,482 --> 00:10:13,586 -[Wayne speaking] -[Gabriel speaking] 268 00:10:13,655 --> 00:10:15,379 I'm, like, "You just tried crushing us 269 00:10:15,448 --> 00:10:17,000 with your excavator several times. 270 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,793 There's no way that you're just trying to turn it off." 271 00:10:18,793 --> 00:10:20,655 [Wayne speaking] 272 00:10:25,206 --> 00:10:27,275 [Gabriel speaking] 273 00:10:27,344 --> 00:10:29,965 And at this time, Hardwick PD showed up on scene. 274 00:10:30,482 --> 00:10:32,000 Oh, it was a great feeling. 275 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 -[officer 1 speaking] -[officer 2] [indistinct] Yup. 276 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,068 Dude, you're getting-- 277 00:10:36,137 --> 00:10:38,758 -[Amy speaking] -[Wayne speaking] 278 00:10:40,206 --> 00:10:42,862 -[Gabriel speaking] -[Wayne speaking] 279 00:10:42,862 --> 00:10:44,482 [Amy speaking] 280 00:10:44,482 --> 00:10:46,862 [Wayne groans, grunts] 281 00:10:46,931 --> 00:10:48,827 [Amy] Wayne, stop. 282 00:10:51,310 --> 00:10:52,689 [officer] Get him back up. 283 00:10:54,275 --> 00:10:57,172 [Gabriel speaking] 284 00:10:58,275 --> 00:11:01,448 -[Amy speaking] -[Gabriel speaking] 285 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,344 -[Amy speaking] -[Gabriel speaking] 286 00:11:09,620 --> 00:11:12,068 [Amy speaking] 287 00:11:12,068 --> 00:11:14,000 [Gabriel speaking] 288 00:11:16,379 --> 00:11:17,275 [Amy] Do it now! 289 00:11:17,275 --> 00:11:18,482 [Skylar speaking] 290 00:11:18,482 --> 00:11:19,758 [indistinct] a search. 291 00:11:19,827 --> 00:11:20,862 [officer] Got you. 292 00:11:21,620 --> 00:11:23,586 [narrator] But in the patrol vehicle, 293 00:11:23,586 --> 00:11:26,551 Brandon's not ready to give up just yet. 294 00:11:27,793 --> 00:11:30,068 [Gabriel] This scenario just never stops. 295 00:11:32,103 --> 00:11:35,758 Brandon was able to slip the cuffs to the front 296 00:11:35,758 --> 00:11:37,655 and then pull on the lever 297 00:11:38,482 --> 00:11:39,689 and open the door, 298 00:11:39,689 --> 00:11:41,379 something that I had never seen before. 299 00:11:41,448 --> 00:11:43,068 Amy was there beside the cruiser 300 00:11:43,137 --> 00:11:44,758 telling him not to. 301 00:11:44,827 --> 00:11:48,586 -[Amy speaking] -[Brandon speaking] 302 00:11:48,586 --> 00:11:49,896 [Gabriel] If he was able to get out, 303 00:11:49,896 --> 00:11:51,482 this would've escalated, uh, you know, 304 00:11:51,551 --> 00:11:54,172 the situation to a whole another use of force again. 305 00:11:54,172 --> 00:11:55,862 [Amy speaking] 306 00:12:00,068 --> 00:12:02,103 [bleep]. 307 00:12:02,103 --> 00:12:04,068 So I didn't even think that was something that you could do. 308 00:12:04,137 --> 00:12:05,758 [Brandon speaking] 309 00:12:05,827 --> 00:12:07,172 [Skylar speaking] 310 00:12:07,172 --> 00:12:09,103 -[Brandon speaking] -[Skylar] All right. 311 00:12:09,103 --> 00:12:12,482 [Brandon] I wanna talk to somebody who is smarter first. 312 00:12:12,551 --> 00:12:15,172 -[Skylar] Let's not do this again. -[Brandon] I wanna talk to... 313 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,482 -[Skylar speaking] -[Brandon speaking] 314 00:12:21,482 --> 00:12:24,586 -[Amy] [indistinct] -[Skylar speaking] 315 00:12:24,655 --> 00:12:26,689 [Brandon speaking] 316 00:12:29,931 --> 00:12:32,000 [narrator] With father and son in custody, 317 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 the troopers now turn their attention 318 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,172 to Brandon's mom, Amy. 319 00:12:36,172 --> 00:12:37,379 Do you know my name? 320 00:12:37,379 --> 00:12:38,862 [Gabriel] Do not touch me. 321 00:12:38,931 --> 00:12:40,172 No, I understand that you're stressed. 322 00:12:40,172 --> 00:12:41,482 -[bleep]. -[Gabriel] You're the one... 323 00:12:41,551 --> 00:12:43,172 Amy had a bad attitude 324 00:12:43,172 --> 00:12:46,068 and was completely disrespectful, discourteous, 325 00:12:46,137 --> 00:12:47,689 which was totally out of line, 326 00:12:47,758 --> 00:12:49,931 and just mind-blowing, honestly. 327 00:12:50,482 --> 00:12:52,655 [officer speaking] 328 00:12:56,275 --> 00:12:58,379 [Skylar] I got one right here. 329 00:12:58,758 --> 00:13:00,275 [Amy speaking] 330 00:13:00,275 --> 00:13:02,000 [officer speaking] 331 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,896 [Amy speaking] 332 00:13:03,896 --> 00:13:06,689 [Skylar speaking] 333 00:13:06,758 --> 00:13:09,172 I have never arrested three members of the same family. 334 00:13:09,172 --> 00:13:11,689 -[Gabriel speaking] -[officer speaking] 335 00:13:11,689 --> 00:13:13,137 [Gabriel speaking] 336 00:13:15,103 --> 00:13:17,000 I was relieved, but I was also 337 00:13:17,034 --> 00:13:19,586 in a complete state of shock. 338 00:13:19,586 --> 00:13:22,379 It's not something I've ever thought would even happen, 339 00:13:22,448 --> 00:13:24,068 being attacked by an excavator. 340 00:13:24,068 --> 00:13:26,275 Thankfully, everybody was okay. 341 00:13:26,275 --> 00:13:27,862 -Get on the ground! -[Wayne] [indistinct] 342 00:13:27,862 --> 00:13:29,172 [Gabriel] Sir, get on the ground right now! 343 00:13:29,241 --> 00:13:30,482 Wayne Tallman pleads guilty 344 00:13:30,482 --> 00:13:33,068 to one count of impeding a public officer, 345 00:13:33,137 --> 00:13:35,000 and two counts of aggravated assault 346 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,137 on a law enforcement officer. 347 00:13:38,275 --> 00:13:40,275 He is sentenced to two to four years in prison, 348 00:13:40,344 --> 00:13:42,068 suspended sentence with 90 days 349 00:13:42,137 --> 00:13:43,655 to serve in jail. 350 00:13:44,689 --> 00:13:48,344 Amy Tallman was given a citation for obstruction. 351 00:13:49,275 --> 00:13:52,068 Brandon Tallman's case still remains unadjudicated. 352 00:13:54,379 --> 00:13:56,862 I thought Wayne Tallman's actions were disgusting, 353 00:13:56,862 --> 00:13:59,379 childish, and totally unacceptable. 354 00:13:59,379 --> 00:14:01,482 Nobody wants to be put in a situation like that 355 00:14:01,482 --> 00:14:03,103 for something that would've been resolved, 356 00:14:03,103 --> 00:14:04,862 literally in three hours. 357 00:14:05,689 --> 00:14:07,482 Trooper Schrauf and Trooper Vasquez 358 00:14:07,482 --> 00:14:09,275 did a tremendous job 359 00:14:09,275 --> 00:14:11,689 of restraining themselves. 360 00:14:11,758 --> 00:14:14,793 That could have turned into a deadly situation very quickly, 361 00:14:14,793 --> 00:14:17,172 whether that's for the trooper or Mr. Tallman. 362 00:14:17,172 --> 00:14:21,275 [Gabriel speaking] 363 00:14:21,275 --> 00:14:24,275 [Matthew D] The manner in which he operated the excavator 364 00:14:24,275 --> 00:14:26,482 is a... Is a deadly force situation. 365 00:14:26,482 --> 00:14:28,655 [Gabriel speaking] 366 00:14:31,068 --> 00:14:32,862 The aftereffects of, you know, incident 367 00:14:32,931 --> 00:14:34,862 like this have definitely been 368 00:14:34,862 --> 00:14:36,758 signs of post-traumatic stress disorder. 369 00:14:37,206 --> 00:14:38,758 I wasn't able to sleep. 370 00:14:38,758 --> 00:14:40,482 I would wake up in the middle of the night 371 00:14:40,482 --> 00:14:41,689 just kind of shaking. 372 00:14:41,689 --> 00:14:43,172 [Gabriel speaking] 373 00:14:43,172 --> 00:14:44,586 That was a wake-up call for me. 374 00:14:44,586 --> 00:14:46,896 You know, we were just over a year on the job, 375 00:14:46,896 --> 00:14:48,862 but you learn from that. 376 00:14:49,758 --> 00:14:51,896 There's no routine call. You can't become complacent 377 00:14:51,896 --> 00:14:53,758 because you never know what you might come across. 378 00:14:57,103 --> 00:14:59,551 [narrator] 1,100 miles to the west 379 00:15:00,482 --> 00:15:02,137 in central Wisconsin 380 00:15:02,793 --> 00:15:05,586 is the city of Marshfield. 381 00:15:06,172 --> 00:15:09,586 [suspenseful music playing] 382 00:15:12,379 --> 00:15:14,172 [Mack] The vehicle I'm driving is an unmarked 383 00:15:14,172 --> 00:15:16,379 black Dodge Charger. 384 00:15:18,275 --> 00:15:20,758 A criminal may see a marked patrol vehicle 385 00:15:20,758 --> 00:15:23,103 from down the street and completely avoid it. 386 00:15:23,103 --> 00:15:25,379 Whereas with that unmarked vehicle, 387 00:15:25,448 --> 00:15:27,379 we might be able to get upright next to them 388 00:15:27,448 --> 00:15:29,862 without them knowing that we're there. 389 00:15:32,103 --> 00:15:35,000 A typical strategy when I'm out enforcing traffic 390 00:15:35,034 --> 00:15:36,482 is any vehicle that I get behind, 391 00:15:36,482 --> 00:15:38,000 I usually run the plate on it 392 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,103 to find stolen vehicles, people with warrants, 393 00:15:41,103 --> 00:15:43,172 or for citations they haven't paid. 394 00:15:45,379 --> 00:15:48,103 [narrator] Today, Officer Scheppler is joined 395 00:15:48,103 --> 00:15:50,862 by a police chaplain, Pastor Yorgey. 396 00:15:53,689 --> 00:15:55,896 Being a police chaplain is something that we do 397 00:15:55,896 --> 00:15:58,379 because we care about the law enforcement officers. 398 00:15:59,482 --> 00:16:01,172 I'm on the ride along to know 399 00:16:01,172 --> 00:16:03,586 how much these guys are dealing with, 400 00:16:03,586 --> 00:16:06,344 the pressures of being an officer. 401 00:16:11,758 --> 00:16:12,896 [Mack] I got myself positioned 402 00:16:12,896 --> 00:16:16,379 behind a darker passenger vehicle. 403 00:16:16,379 --> 00:16:17,896 I ran the plate on that vehicle 404 00:16:17,896 --> 00:16:19,862 and on my computer screen 405 00:16:19,931 --> 00:16:22,586 popped up a name Gerald Pearson. 406 00:16:22,586 --> 00:16:24,758 A couple warrants appeared, failure to register 407 00:16:24,827 --> 00:16:25,896 as a sex offender, 408 00:16:25,896 --> 00:16:27,344 and fleeing from police officers. 409 00:16:30,482 --> 00:16:32,379 I knew it was Pearson. 410 00:16:32,379 --> 00:16:35,034 He matched the photographs that we had of him on file. 411 00:16:36,103 --> 00:16:38,896 These warrants are pretty serious. 412 00:16:38,896 --> 00:16:40,965 We need to have contact with this individual. 413 00:16:41,758 --> 00:16:43,482 [phone buzzes] 414 00:16:43,551 --> 00:16:45,448 [Mack speaking] 415 00:16:47,793 --> 00:16:49,689 [officer speaking] 416 00:16:51,793 --> 00:16:53,965 [Mack speaking] 417 00:17:00,103 --> 00:17:02,068 [woman speaking] 418 00:17:02,862 --> 00:17:04,758 [Mack speaking] 419 00:17:07,103 --> 00:17:09,103 I have to keep my eyes on her. 420 00:17:09,103 --> 00:17:11,586 I have to keep my eyes on him. 421 00:17:11,655 --> 00:17:13,550 My attention's now being diverted. 422 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,241 [Mack speaking] 423 00:17:23,586 --> 00:17:26,275 [tense music playing] 424 00:17:26,344 --> 00:17:27,068 [officer speaking] 425 00:17:27,137 --> 00:17:29,482 [police siren wailing] 426 00:17:29,482 --> 00:17:31,655 [Mack speaking] 427 00:17:35,482 --> 00:17:38,655 [police siren blaring] 428 00:17:45,896 --> 00:17:48,448 [Mack speaking] 429 00:17:49,896 --> 00:17:51,586 Anytime you're traveling at a fast speed, 430 00:17:51,586 --> 00:17:53,793 it lessens your reaction time. 431 00:17:53,793 --> 00:17:56,689 And also you don't know how distracted that person is 432 00:17:56,758 --> 00:17:59,275 or how this guy could try to be avoiding prison 433 00:17:59,344 --> 00:18:00,965 and not wanting to go back. 434 00:18:06,103 --> 00:18:07,758 [Tim] I'm sure, in the police world, 435 00:18:07,758 --> 00:18:09,758 things are going normally, but as me sitting there 436 00:18:09,758 --> 00:18:11,862 as a chaplain, I'm going, "Well, this is the first time 437 00:18:11,931 --> 00:18:13,689 I've ever been in a police chase." 438 00:18:13,758 --> 00:18:15,862 [man speaking] 439 00:18:17,413 --> 00:18:20,000 [tense music playing] 440 00:18:20,034 --> 00:18:22,586 [Jody] I heard over the radio Officer Scheppler 441 00:18:22,655 --> 00:18:24,551 was involved in a pursuit, 442 00:18:25,275 --> 00:18:27,241 so I try to get ahead of him. 443 00:18:29,275 --> 00:18:31,275 We constantly have to weigh 444 00:18:31,344 --> 00:18:33,275 the benefits of catching the individual 445 00:18:33,275 --> 00:18:35,172 versus the amount of risks that we're putting 446 00:18:35,172 --> 00:18:36,655 the rest of the public in. 447 00:18:37,275 --> 00:18:39,068 [Jody speaking] 448 00:18:39,137 --> 00:18:40,862 [police siren blaring] 449 00:18:40,931 --> 00:18:43,965 [tense music playing] 450 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,275 I knew that he was gonna go 451 00:18:46,344 --> 00:18:48,275 either left or right at the intersection. 452 00:18:48,344 --> 00:18:50,172 I just stopped traffic both ways. 453 00:18:50,172 --> 00:18:52,689 [Jody speaking] 454 00:18:53,931 --> 00:18:56,241 [Mack] This guy's gonna do whatever he can to evade us. 455 00:18:57,275 --> 00:18:58,551 [Jody] Stop! 456 00:19:01,172 --> 00:19:03,448 [suspenseful music playing] 457 00:19:03,448 --> 00:19:05,758 [police siren blaring] 458 00:19:05,758 --> 00:19:07,758 [Tim] Seeing guns drawn is not something 459 00:19:07,827 --> 00:19:09,344 that I have seen in real life. 460 00:19:09,344 --> 00:19:11,482 Is he going to shoot at the individual? 461 00:19:11,482 --> 00:19:13,551 Is he gonna try to blow out his tires? 462 00:19:14,275 --> 00:19:15,965 [narrator] Pearson is able to evade 463 00:19:15,965 --> 00:19:17,758 Chief Geurink's stop. 464 00:19:17,827 --> 00:19:20,758 [Jody] I didn't have enough time to safely administer 465 00:19:20,827 --> 00:19:23,655 spike strips to try to deflate the tires. 466 00:19:23,724 --> 00:19:25,344 [police siren blaring] 467 00:19:25,344 --> 00:19:27,344 [officer speaking] 468 00:19:27,344 --> 00:19:30,034 [narrator] The pursuit continues onto back roads. 469 00:19:30,034 --> 00:19:32,862 [Mack] The dangers of driving on a dirt road 470 00:19:32,931 --> 00:19:34,758 are that the visibility gets 471 00:19:34,827 --> 00:19:35,896 a lot harder to see it. 472 00:19:35,896 --> 00:19:38,241 It spits up that dust. 473 00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:39,793 It's hard to control your vehicle. 474 00:19:39,793 --> 00:19:42,965 [police siren wailing] 475 00:19:50,379 --> 00:19:52,448 [Mack] I see him start to slow down, 476 00:19:52,448 --> 00:19:54,275 might be my only opportunity 477 00:19:54,275 --> 00:19:57,241 to reform a maneuver, which is PIT. 478 00:19:57,310 --> 00:20:00,344 [police siren blaring] 479 00:20:05,586 --> 00:20:07,758 [Mack speaking] 480 00:20:16,448 --> 00:20:20,068 We position our vehicles next to the suspect vehicle. 481 00:20:20,068 --> 00:20:23,137 We attempt to spin it out. 482 00:20:23,137 --> 00:20:24,655 [Tim] Immediately in my mind, I'm going, 483 00:20:24,655 --> 00:20:26,758 "Well, what side is he going to hit the guy with? 484 00:20:26,758 --> 00:20:29,724 Are the airbags gonna deploy in the car when we hit them?" 485 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,344 [Mack speaking] 486 00:20:33,413 --> 00:20:34,758 [Tim speaking] 487 00:20:35,793 --> 00:20:37,551 Well, I did some praying. 488 00:20:37,620 --> 00:20:38,655 I'm not saying it out loud 489 00:20:38,655 --> 00:20:39,482 'cause I don't wanna distract him. 490 00:20:39,482 --> 00:20:41,655 [police siren wailing] 491 00:20:43,137 --> 00:20:44,586 [narrator] After 30 minutes, 492 00:20:44,586 --> 00:20:47,758 the high speed pursuit is back on paved roads. 493 00:20:50,448 --> 00:20:53,586 [Mack speaking] 494 00:20:53,586 --> 00:20:55,551 [officer speaking] 495 00:20:57,793 --> 00:21:02,655 [Mack speaking] 496 00:21:04,586 --> 00:21:05,965 He's definitely getting more desperate. 497 00:21:05,965 --> 00:21:07,482 He's probably gonna do whatever it takes 498 00:21:07,482 --> 00:21:09,862 to evade law enforcement. 499 00:21:14,275 --> 00:21:17,103 [narrator] The pursuit has now crossed into Clark County, 500 00:21:17,103 --> 00:21:19,172 Sergeant Prein responds. 501 00:21:20,275 --> 00:21:23,137 [Matthew P] My plan is, I'm gonna get ahead of him, 502 00:21:23,137 --> 00:21:26,137 so I had time to be able to throw out spike strips 503 00:21:26,137 --> 00:21:29,034 to deflate his tires to slow him down. 504 00:21:33,482 --> 00:21:35,862 [officer speaking] 505 00:21:37,965 --> 00:21:39,241 [Matthew P speaking] 506 00:21:40,689 --> 00:21:42,241 He hits the stop sticks 507 00:21:42,241 --> 00:21:43,965 and his tires start deflating. 508 00:21:45,103 --> 00:21:47,896 Within seconds, Officer Scheppler was coming, 509 00:21:47,896 --> 00:21:49,655 so I need to remove them quickly. 510 00:21:50,758 --> 00:21:53,000 [Mack] It made it through the intersection safe and clear 511 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,448 and that I could keep chasing after him. 512 00:21:55,862 --> 00:21:58,448 [Mack speaking] 513 00:21:59,275 --> 00:22:01,241 [static] 514 00:22:03,172 --> 00:22:04,965 [Mack speaking] 515 00:22:07,586 --> 00:22:09,448 I know that this might be my last opportunity 516 00:22:09,517 --> 00:22:10,379 to PIT him. 517 00:22:10,379 --> 00:22:13,551 [police siren blaring] 518 00:22:16,275 --> 00:22:19,034 [Mack] Each time I tried approaching a side of his vehicle, 519 00:22:19,034 --> 00:22:21,344 he would try to block me. 520 00:22:22,241 --> 00:22:24,000 He wasn't gonna just let me do it. 521 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,137 [police siren blaring] 522 00:22:30,448 --> 00:22:32,000 [Mack speaking] 523 00:22:36,172 --> 00:22:38,551 I had to start thinking of a plan. 524 00:22:38,551 --> 00:22:40,000 Not sure if he's gonna be waiting there 525 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,344 with a firearm. 526 00:22:41,413 --> 00:22:43,448 -[officer speaking] -[Mack speaking] 527 00:22:47,068 --> 00:22:49,000 -[officer] Hands up. -[Mack speaking] 528 00:22:51,344 --> 00:22:55,551 I see him take off on foot towards the tall grass. 529 00:22:56,793 --> 00:22:58,551 What else is this guy gonna do? 530 00:22:58,551 --> 00:23:01,724 [tense music playing] 531 00:23:04,482 --> 00:23:07,344 [Tim] When Mack runs off, I stay in the car, 532 00:23:07,344 --> 00:23:10,241 I'm wondering am I going to hear gunshots? 533 00:23:10,241 --> 00:23:12,000 How's this going to end? 534 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,758 [Mack] I didn't want to have physical contact 535 00:23:13,827 --> 00:23:15,965 with him with a gun in my hand 536 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:16,965 because I knew if it was a fight, 537 00:23:16,965 --> 00:23:18,379 we'd be potentially fighting 538 00:23:18,379 --> 00:23:19,862 over that firearm. 539 00:23:19,931 --> 00:23:22,758 Therefore, I decided to go to a less lethal option. 540 00:23:24,551 --> 00:23:27,000 [Mack speaking] 541 00:23:33,586 --> 00:23:35,793 [Gerald speaks] 542 00:23:35,793 --> 00:23:37,965 -[Mack speaking] -[Gerald] I'm down 543 00:23:39,586 --> 00:23:40,862 [indistinct] 544 00:23:42,034 --> 00:23:44,655 [Mack speaking] 545 00:23:46,241 --> 00:23:48,758 -[Gerald] [indistinct] -[Mack speaking] 546 00:23:58,586 --> 00:23:59,862 [officer speaking] 547 00:23:59,862 --> 00:24:02,793 I wasn't gonna put it past him to potentially 548 00:24:02,793 --> 00:24:04,275 pull out a weapon. 549 00:24:04,275 --> 00:24:06,413 [Mack speaking] 550 00:24:15,275 --> 00:24:16,448 [Gerald speaks] 551 00:24:18,137 --> 00:24:20,103 -[Mack speaking] -[officer] You hurt? 552 00:24:20,103 --> 00:24:22,000 -[Mack speaking] -[Gerald speaking] 553 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,068 [Mack speaking] 554 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,103 -[officer speaks] -[Mack speaking] 555 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,689 -[man speaking] -[Mack speaking] 556 00:24:35,689 --> 00:24:37,758 He began apologizing. 557 00:24:37,758 --> 00:24:40,931 [Mack speaking] 558 00:24:41,482 --> 00:24:42,793 [Gerald] How bad is my car? 559 00:24:42,793 --> 00:24:45,034 [Mack speaking] 560 00:24:45,034 --> 00:24:47,000 [Gerald speaking] 561 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,586 [Mack] I can't react emotionally. 562 00:24:48,586 --> 00:24:50,241 They're not running from you as a person. 563 00:24:50,241 --> 00:24:52,827 They're running from me as a police officer. 564 00:24:54,103 --> 00:24:56,034 [Tim] When I saw the individual come up, 565 00:24:56,034 --> 00:24:57,965 it's just an average guy and in your mind, 566 00:24:57,965 --> 00:24:59,689 you're going, "Why would you run? 567 00:24:59,689 --> 00:25:01,241 Why run from the police?" 568 00:25:01,241 --> 00:25:02,103 [officer 1] All right, guys. 569 00:25:02,103 --> 00:25:03,241 [officer 2] Wherever you go, yeah. 570 00:25:03,310 --> 00:25:03,931 Don't matter, pretty much. Hey, how you doing? 571 00:25:06,034 --> 00:25:07,655 [Mack speaks] 572 00:25:07,724 --> 00:25:09,689 I got back to the patrol vehicle, 573 00:25:09,689 --> 00:25:11,551 Pastor Yorgey, he's still in good spirits. 574 00:25:11,551 --> 00:25:14,172 He wasn't too mad at me that I brought him on 575 00:25:14,172 --> 00:25:16,448 this wild encounter... 576 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,448 [Mack speaking] 577 00:25:18,517 --> 00:25:19,448 [indistinct] 578 00:25:19,517 --> 00:25:22,344 [Mack speaking] 579 00:25:22,413 --> 00:25:23,172 [Tim speaking] 580 00:25:23,172 --> 00:25:23,965 It was nice to know 581 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,965 that he was checking on me. 582 00:25:25,965 --> 00:25:28,068 This is the first chase I've been in. 583 00:25:28,551 --> 00:25:30,758 [Tim speaking] 584 00:25:31,586 --> 00:25:34,241 [Mack speaking] 585 00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:37,586 I went to the ER with Mr. Pearson 586 00:25:37,586 --> 00:25:39,896 and we had turned him over to a transport officer 587 00:25:39,896 --> 00:25:42,206 who ultimately took him to the jail. 588 00:25:43,689 --> 00:25:47,551 We had the vehicle towed back to our department. 589 00:25:49,172 --> 00:25:51,965 [Jody speaking] 590 00:25:54,103 --> 00:25:56,000 We located some methamphetamine 591 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,758 and paraphernalia related to that. 592 00:26:00,896 --> 00:26:04,793 [narrator] Pearson's passenger was found to be innocent. 593 00:26:04,793 --> 00:26:08,000 Gerald Lynn Pearson is found guilty of fleeing 594 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,965 and resisting a police officer, 595 00:26:12,793 --> 00:26:15,310 possession of methamphetamine, 596 00:26:17,344 --> 00:26:20,965 and failure to register as a sex offender. 597 00:26:20,965 --> 00:26:24,034 He is sentenced to three years in prison. 598 00:26:28,896 --> 00:26:31,965 [Mack] His actions were pretty irresponsible and selfish. 599 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,862 He didn't really care about anyone else on the road 600 00:26:34,862 --> 00:26:37,068 and other officers. 601 00:26:37,068 --> 00:26:39,689 [Tim] I would say this whole incident really helped me 602 00:26:39,689 --> 00:26:42,448 understand the issues law enforcement deal with, 603 00:26:42,448 --> 00:26:45,241 and I think it has brought Mack and I closer together. 604 00:26:46,137 --> 00:26:47,965 [Mack] Pastor Yorgey, he's a super guy, 605 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,862 but I think everyone doing the ride along 606 00:26:49,862 --> 00:26:52,103 doesn't expect to get in a police chase. 607 00:26:52,103 --> 00:26:55,344 [police siren blaring] 608 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,551 [narrator] 43 miles northeast of Indianapolis 609 00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:03,827 is Anderson, Indiana. 610 00:27:09,482 --> 00:27:11,241 [John] At the Madison County Sheriff's Department, 611 00:27:11,310 --> 00:27:14,275 we have approximately 40 police officers 612 00:27:14,275 --> 00:27:16,103 on the road patrol division. 613 00:27:17,034 --> 00:27:18,379 It's not a big department, 614 00:27:18,379 --> 00:27:20,896 so we're a pretty close knit group. 615 00:27:20,896 --> 00:27:25,068 We rely heavily on tips from concerned citizens 616 00:27:25,068 --> 00:27:28,241 about wanted individuals that have warrants. 617 00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:30,862 They'll send us a tip of their location, 618 00:27:30,931 --> 00:27:34,241 maybe what they're driving, who they may be staying with. 619 00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:36,241 It's the public's way of helping us out. 620 00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:39,620 [suspenseful music playing] 621 00:27:45,103 --> 00:27:46,344 [John] I receive an email 622 00:27:46,344 --> 00:27:49,655 about two wanted individuals. 623 00:27:49,655 --> 00:27:52,551 The email stated that they were staying at the Motel 6. 624 00:28:05,689 --> 00:28:06,862 -[man speaking] -[John speaking] 625 00:28:06,931 --> 00:28:09,000 -[man speaking] -[John speaking] 626 00:28:10,448 --> 00:28:11,241 [man speaking] 627 00:28:12,793 --> 00:28:16,448 [John speaking] 628 00:28:16,448 --> 00:28:18,862 -[man speaking] -[John speaking] 629 00:28:18,862 --> 00:28:19,965 [man speaking] 630 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,689 -[John speaking] -[man speaking] 631 00:28:21,689 --> 00:28:24,862 [John] Jon Niccum, he'd had a long history with drugs. 632 00:28:24,931 --> 00:28:28,482 He had recently had issues with stealing firearms. 633 00:28:28,482 --> 00:28:31,862 Brooke Badger, she too had a long drug history. 634 00:28:31,862 --> 00:28:35,034 I knew them to be together in a relationship. 635 00:28:35,034 --> 00:28:36,379 -[John speaking] -[man speaking] 636 00:28:36,379 --> 00:28:37,655 [John speaking] 637 00:28:37,724 --> 00:28:39,413 [man speaking] 638 00:28:42,793 --> 00:28:45,551 [John speaking] 639 00:28:45,551 --> 00:28:47,551 [man speaking] 640 00:28:47,620 --> 00:28:49,344 [John speaking] 641 00:28:49,413 --> 00:28:50,758 -[man speaking] -[John] Okay. 642 00:28:51,586 --> 00:28:52,620 [man speaking] 643 00:28:54,103 --> 00:28:55,551 [tense music playing] 644 00:28:55,551 --> 00:28:56,931 [John speaking] 645 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,965 [narrator] Deputy Vieke is accompanied 646 00:29:00,068 --> 00:29:01,586 by Deputy Kollros. 647 00:29:01,586 --> 00:29:04,103 [Kollros speaking] 648 00:29:05,689 --> 00:29:07,206 [dispatcher speaking] 649 00:29:08,379 --> 00:29:11,172 [John] When serve warrants, they double as 650 00:29:11,172 --> 00:29:12,965 search warrants for the individual. 651 00:29:13,793 --> 00:29:15,862 And if we hear activity, 652 00:29:15,862 --> 00:29:19,241 then we can search the space for people. 653 00:29:20,551 --> 00:29:22,758 [John speaking] 654 00:29:22,827 --> 00:29:24,862 [indistinct chatter] 655 00:29:32,689 --> 00:29:33,758 [knocks on door] 656 00:29:33,758 --> 00:29:34,965 [John speaking] 657 00:29:39,275 --> 00:29:40,655 [door opens] 658 00:29:40,655 --> 00:29:41,862 -[John speaking] -Hi. 659 00:29:41,862 --> 00:29:43,931 [John speaking] 660 00:29:47,482 --> 00:29:48,551 [Brooke speaking] 661 00:29:48,551 --> 00:29:49,482 [Kollros] [indistinct] your hand. 662 00:29:49,482 --> 00:29:51,620 -[Brooke speaking] -[Kollros speaking] 663 00:29:52,551 --> 00:29:55,724 -[Brooke speaking] -[Kollros speaking] 664 00:30:00,379 --> 00:30:01,551 [Brooke] Why? 665 00:30:02,034 --> 00:30:04,620 [John speaking] 666 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,034 [Jon speaking] 667 00:30:06,034 --> 00:30:08,241 [John speaking] 668 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:10,827 [gunshots] 669 00:30:13,379 --> 00:30:15,758 [suspenseful music playing] 670 00:30:20,586 --> 00:30:22,448 -[gunshots] -[John speaking] 671 00:30:24,448 --> 00:30:26,551 [John] Shots fired. Shots fired. 672 00:30:32,551 --> 00:30:34,172 [John speaking] 673 00:30:34,172 --> 00:30:37,344 [Kollros speaking] 674 00:30:41,275 --> 00:30:42,551 [Doug] I hear radio traffic 675 00:30:42,551 --> 00:30:45,310 that Officer Vieke saying he has shots fired. 676 00:30:45,896 --> 00:30:47,448 [John speaking] 677 00:30:48,379 --> 00:30:50,103 [gunshots] 678 00:30:52,965 --> 00:30:54,103 [John] I'm surprised 679 00:30:54,103 --> 00:30:55,586 when he pulls the gun 680 00:30:55,586 --> 00:30:58,413 out of the sheet and shoots it at me. 681 00:31:00,137 --> 00:31:01,344 [gunshots] 682 00:31:01,413 --> 00:31:02,896 [John] I was shocked. 683 00:31:02,896 --> 00:31:05,172 He wasn't in the same world that I was in. 684 00:31:05,172 --> 00:31:07,000 [gunshots] 685 00:31:08,172 --> 00:31:10,172 [John] Shots fired. Shots fired. 686 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,000 -[Kollros speaking] -[Brooke speaking] 687 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,448 [Kollros] Get... Go inside. 688 00:31:17,068 --> 00:31:19,000 [dispatcher speaking] 689 00:31:20,689 --> 00:31:22,344 [Kollros speaking] 690 00:31:25,793 --> 00:31:26,931 [gunshot] 691 00:31:27,275 --> 00:31:28,448 [Kollros speaking] 692 00:31:35,689 --> 00:31:38,103 That's when I made contact with Officer Kollros. 693 00:31:38,103 --> 00:31:40,448 And he had explained that the female subject 694 00:31:40,517 --> 00:31:42,448 had fled on foot. 695 00:31:42,517 --> 00:31:45,000 A mantra in law enforcement is WIN, 696 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,655 what's important now. 697 00:31:46,724 --> 00:31:49,965 And at that point, we had shots fired 698 00:31:49,965 --> 00:31:51,379 at police officers. 699 00:31:51,379 --> 00:31:55,896 And Brooke Badger, she was not the threat 700 00:31:55,896 --> 00:31:58,034 that he needed to address. 701 00:31:58,034 --> 00:31:59,655 We needed to address the shooting 702 00:31:59,655 --> 00:32:00,965 that was going on. 703 00:32:02,068 --> 00:32:04,000 You just wanna get as many people there 704 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,551 as quick as possible. 705 00:32:05,551 --> 00:32:07,862 [sirens wailing] 706 00:32:07,862 --> 00:32:09,758 [narrator] Backup is on the way. 707 00:32:10,862 --> 00:32:13,724 But there are hotel guests to protect. 708 00:32:16,379 --> 00:32:17,758 [Darren] The goal at that point is 709 00:32:17,827 --> 00:32:20,379 to keep the hotel guests inside their rooms 710 00:32:20,379 --> 00:32:22,586 until we can safely evacuate them. 711 00:32:22,586 --> 00:32:25,896 [John speaking] 712 00:32:25,896 --> 00:32:27,344 -[officer] On the right? -[John speaking] 713 00:32:30,793 --> 00:32:32,000 We had officers in the hallway, 714 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,620 who knew that he barricaded himself in the room. 715 00:32:36,793 --> 00:32:38,448 Our number one concern is 716 00:32:38,517 --> 00:32:41,724 for the safety of everyone in the hotel. 717 00:32:42,689 --> 00:32:44,862 [officer 1 speaking] 718 00:32:44,862 --> 00:32:47,137 [officer 2 speaking] 719 00:32:49,137 --> 00:32:51,551 [Doug] We relied on the Anderson Police Department. 720 00:32:51,620 --> 00:32:53,448 Many of their officers that were there 721 00:32:53,448 --> 00:32:55,862 were already on the Anderson SWAT team. 722 00:32:55,862 --> 00:32:59,000 [officer speaking] 723 00:33:03,758 --> 00:33:05,448 Rather than waiting for the sheriff's department 724 00:33:05,448 --> 00:33:07,551 SWAT team to have to get called out and respond, 725 00:33:07,620 --> 00:33:09,586 we decided to let their department 726 00:33:09,586 --> 00:33:12,241 cover the operation as far as clearing the room 727 00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:13,551 and entering the room. 728 00:33:13,551 --> 00:33:15,896 [officer 1 speaking] 729 00:33:15,896 --> 00:33:17,551 [John speaking] 730 00:33:17,620 --> 00:33:20,965 [officer 1 speaking] 731 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,137 [officer 2 speaking] 732 00:33:24,137 --> 00:33:26,344 [Doug] We have to get other people out of the hotel. 733 00:33:26,413 --> 00:33:28,862 There's a chance that rounds could go through walls 734 00:33:28,862 --> 00:33:30,344 into other rooms, and we don't want 735 00:33:30,413 --> 00:33:31,724 innocent people to get injured. 736 00:33:34,172 --> 00:33:36,862 [officer speaking] 737 00:33:41,965 --> 00:33:44,448 [Darren] You don't know if that person has anybody else 738 00:33:44,448 --> 00:33:46,034 that's related to that situation. 739 00:33:46,034 --> 00:33:48,965 There could be somebody else of the same like-mind 740 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,344 in another hotel room. 741 00:33:50,413 --> 00:33:52,275 There's a lot of unknowns there. 742 00:33:52,275 --> 00:33:55,448 -[officer speaking] -[woman speaking] 743 00:34:04,137 --> 00:34:06,310 [woman speaking] 744 00:34:07,068 --> 00:34:09,034 [officer 1 speaking] 745 00:34:10,137 --> 00:34:12,447 [officer 2 speaking] 746 00:34:12,447 --> 00:34:14,447 [John] We literally went room to room, 747 00:34:14,447 --> 00:34:15,862 knocking on every door, 748 00:34:15,931 --> 00:34:18,068 cleared the entire floor of the hotel. 749 00:34:18,068 --> 00:34:20,241 [officer 1 speaking] 750 00:34:21,688 --> 00:34:23,241 [officer 2 speaking] 751 00:34:25,034 --> 00:34:26,585 [officer 3 speaking] 752 00:34:26,585 --> 00:34:29,655 [officer 4 speaking] 753 00:34:40,896 --> 00:34:42,172 [officer 5] So we're gonna grab real quick. 754 00:34:42,172 --> 00:34:43,241 [officer 6] Yup. Go for it. 755 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,241 [narrator] With guest evacuation over, 756 00:34:46,241 --> 00:34:49,000 police can now focus on the gunman. 757 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,172 Yeah. 758 00:34:50,172 --> 00:34:51,447 Yup. 759 00:34:56,896 --> 00:34:58,758 [officer speaking] 760 00:34:58,827 --> 00:35:00,655 [indistinct chatter] 761 00:35:02,862 --> 00:35:05,965 [tense music playing] 762 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,965 [officer speaking] 763 00:35:12,793 --> 00:35:15,448 [suspenseful music playing] 764 00:35:15,448 --> 00:35:17,620 [officer speaking] 765 00:35:18,689 --> 00:35:21,862 [Doug] They located Mr. Niccum 766 00:35:21,862 --> 00:35:23,206 deceased in the bathroom. 767 00:35:25,689 --> 00:35:28,448 He died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. 768 00:35:29,034 --> 00:35:30,172 Jon Niccum thought that 769 00:35:30,172 --> 00:35:31,793 there was no other option left 770 00:35:31,793 --> 00:35:33,862 and that he would have to take his own life. 771 00:35:36,862 --> 00:35:39,068 There's going to be family members now 772 00:35:39,068 --> 00:35:40,896 without a loved one. 773 00:35:40,896 --> 00:35:43,758 Obviously I don't want to see anybody hurt, 774 00:35:43,827 --> 00:35:46,034 especially to take their own lives. 775 00:35:51,586 --> 00:35:53,655 [Doug] There was evidence of drug paraphernalia 776 00:35:53,655 --> 00:35:56,206 and other drug items found throughout the room. 777 00:35:59,275 --> 00:36:01,551 [narrator] With Jon Niccum deceased, 778 00:36:01,620 --> 00:36:04,862 officers now focus on trying to locate his partner, 779 00:36:04,862 --> 00:36:07,965 Brooke Badger, who is on the run. 780 00:36:08,896 --> 00:36:11,758 [John] She was last seen fleeing out 781 00:36:11,827 --> 00:36:14,413 the south door of Motel 6. 782 00:36:15,172 --> 00:36:17,655 [Kollros speaking] 783 00:36:18,172 --> 00:36:20,758 [officer speaking] 784 00:36:20,827 --> 00:36:21,551 Yeah. 785 00:36:21,551 --> 00:36:22,689 [officer speaking] 786 00:36:22,689 --> 00:36:24,896 [Kollros speaking] 787 00:36:24,896 --> 00:36:26,448 -[officer speaking] -[Kollros speaking] 788 00:36:26,517 --> 00:36:28,758 -[officer speaking] -[Kollros speaking] 789 00:36:31,482 --> 00:36:33,551 -[Kollros speaking] -[officer] Uh-huh. 790 00:36:33,551 --> 00:36:36,827 -[Kollros speaking] -[officer] Okay. 791 00:36:37,275 --> 00:36:39,620 [Kollros speaking] 792 00:36:41,137 --> 00:36:43,655 It split up the investigation into two parts. 793 00:36:43,724 --> 00:36:46,344 [officer speaking] 794 00:36:47,172 --> 00:36:48,448 [Kollros speaks] 795 00:36:48,517 --> 00:36:50,862 [narrator] Officers search the hotel grounds. 796 00:36:51,172 --> 00:36:53,655 [Kollros speaking] 797 00:36:57,586 --> 00:37:00,344 [woman speaking] 798 00:37:00,344 --> 00:37:03,965 [narrator] The K9 unit tracks south in nearby fields. 799 00:37:04,551 --> 00:37:06,655 [Darren speaking] 800 00:37:15,758 --> 00:37:18,862 We traveled almost a full mile east 801 00:37:18,862 --> 00:37:21,068 into the series of fields, 802 00:37:21,068 --> 00:37:23,965 tracking with K9, checking every brush pile, 803 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,137 checking the fence row, checking the wooded areas. 804 00:37:27,137 --> 00:37:29,482 [Darren speaking] 805 00:37:29,482 --> 00:37:30,448 [officer speaking] 806 00:37:31,172 --> 00:37:33,965 -[officer speaking] -[Darren speaking] 807 00:37:33,965 --> 00:37:35,448 We had the radio transmission, 808 00:37:35,448 --> 00:37:38,551 one of the officers from Anderson Police Department 809 00:37:38,620 --> 00:37:40,655 was able to look at video footage 810 00:37:40,724 --> 00:37:42,344 from the neighboring hotel 811 00:37:42,344 --> 00:37:45,448 and she actually went north. 812 00:37:45,448 --> 00:37:48,068 Brooke Badger escapes. 813 00:37:48,068 --> 00:37:49,655 That's certainly frustrating. 814 00:37:50,172 --> 00:37:53,206 [suspenseful music playing] 815 00:37:59,379 --> 00:38:02,068 [narrator] Brooke Badger's still on the run. 816 00:38:02,068 --> 00:38:03,793 Then police get a tip-off 817 00:38:03,793 --> 00:38:06,000 that she's at a house 25 miles away 818 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,241 from the crime scene in Elwood, Indiana. 819 00:38:08,241 --> 00:38:10,413 [Jeff speaking] 820 00:38:11,586 --> 00:38:13,965 [narrator] Deputy Richwine joins the officer 821 00:38:13,965 --> 00:38:16,310 who was tipped off at the suspect's address. 822 00:38:17,241 --> 00:38:18,896 [Jeff] Officer Jamie Crawford in Elwood 823 00:38:18,896 --> 00:38:22,103 was flagged down by somebody and was given information 824 00:38:22,103 --> 00:38:24,448 that Brooke Badger had been stating 825 00:38:24,448 --> 00:38:26,931 at a residence on North 10th Street. 826 00:38:28,482 --> 00:38:30,689 I've served a lot of arrest warrants over the years. 827 00:38:30,689 --> 00:38:33,551 I was familiar with what occurred at Motel 6. 828 00:38:33,620 --> 00:38:35,172 We got a job to do, we're gonna go in 829 00:38:35,172 --> 00:38:36,241 and we're gonna get it done. 830 00:38:37,172 --> 00:38:39,620 [officer speaking] 831 00:38:49,482 --> 00:38:51,793 [Jeff speaking] 832 00:38:51,793 --> 00:38:53,965 -[dog growls] -[man speaking] 833 00:38:56,137 --> 00:38:58,241 [officer speaking] 834 00:38:58,310 --> 00:39:01,034 -[Jeff speaking] -[man speaking] 835 00:39:02,379 --> 00:39:04,965 [Jeff speaking] 836 00:39:08,068 --> 00:39:11,310 -[officer speaking] -[Jeff speaking] 837 00:39:13,275 --> 00:39:16,137 She was sitting there half-dressed in her T-shirt 838 00:39:16,137 --> 00:39:17,241 and her underclothes. 839 00:39:17,241 --> 00:39:19,068 [Jeff speaking] 840 00:39:19,068 --> 00:39:19,965 [Brooke speaking] 841 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,862 [Jeff speaking] 842 00:39:21,862 --> 00:39:23,241 [man speaking] 843 00:39:23,241 --> 00:39:25,655 -[officer speaking] -[man speaking] 844 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,655 [Jeff] It was dirty. 845 00:39:28,655 --> 00:39:30,862 A lot of clutter and trash laying everywhere. 846 00:39:30,931 --> 00:39:33,551 It appeared to be somewhat of a drug house. 847 00:39:33,551 --> 00:39:35,965 [Jeff speaking] 848 00:39:35,965 --> 00:39:37,758 [Brooke speaking] 849 00:39:37,758 --> 00:39:39,000 [Jeff speaking] 850 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,551 -[Brooke speaking] -[Jeff speaking] 851 00:39:46,793 --> 00:39:49,241 [indistinct radio chatter] 852 00:39:49,241 --> 00:39:50,310 [Jeff speaking] 853 00:39:53,482 --> 00:39:55,793 [officer speaking] 854 00:39:55,793 --> 00:39:58,448 [Jeff] At that point, then I placed the handcuffs on her 855 00:39:58,517 --> 00:40:00,172 and escorted her to my vehicle 856 00:40:00,172 --> 00:40:03,172 and transported her to the Madison County Jail. 857 00:40:06,241 --> 00:40:08,068 [Jeff speaking] 858 00:40:08,068 --> 00:40:11,000 It is sad because it boils down to choices 859 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,241 and people that you hang around. 860 00:40:13,310 --> 00:40:15,000 You put yourself in a situation, you... 861 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,965 It's just... It's what's gonna happen. 862 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,931 [Jeff speaking] 863 00:40:26,586 --> 00:40:28,000 [Doug] Brooke Badger pleads guilty 864 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000 to attempting to escape from lawful custody, 865 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,896 which was a level five felony. 866 00:40:31,896 --> 00:40:33,551 Her conviction will be deferred 867 00:40:33,551 --> 00:40:35,068 if she successfully participates 868 00:40:35,068 --> 00:40:36,689 in a drug program 869 00:40:36,689 --> 00:40:39,172 through the problem solving courts in Madison County. 870 00:40:40,344 --> 00:40:43,413 [dispatcher speaking] 871 00:40:45,586 --> 00:40:49,034 [John] I don't have any ill will towards Brooke 872 00:40:49,034 --> 00:40:50,862 and I don't think she was responsible 873 00:40:50,862 --> 00:40:52,862 for any of what happened. 874 00:40:53,172 --> 00:40:54,241 [gunshot] 875 00:40:54,241 --> 00:40:55,896 [John] Shots fired. 876 00:40:55,896 --> 00:40:57,241 [gunshots] 877 00:40:57,310 --> 00:40:58,172 [John] During the weeks that I was looking 878 00:40:58,172 --> 00:40:59,241 for Brooke Badger, 879 00:40:59,241 --> 00:41:01,655 I learned that she had 880 00:41:01,724 --> 00:41:03,448 the potential to be a good person. 881 00:41:03,448 --> 00:41:05,137 She just got wrapped up in drugs. 882 00:41:06,241 --> 00:41:08,655 I am not disappointed that I was not the one 883 00:41:08,724 --> 00:41:09,931 that found her, 884 00:41:10,689 --> 00:41:12,689 I was more concerned about her 885 00:41:12,689 --> 00:41:14,172 just getting back 886 00:41:14,172 --> 00:41:15,275 to where she needed to be 887 00:41:15,275 --> 00:41:16,448 to get the help that she needed. 888 00:41:19,793 --> 00:41:21,034 Narrator: In New Mexico... 889 00:41:21,034 --> 00:41:23,758 I was like, "Oh, my gosh who steals a car with babies in it?" 890 00:41:24,655 --> 00:41:26,379 No! 891 00:41:26,379 --> 00:41:27,448 Narrator: In Arizona... 892 00:41:28,793 --> 00:41:30,379 They were not going to come out of that room 893 00:41:30,379 --> 00:41:32,172 without some kind of confrontation. 894 00:41:32,172 --> 00:41:33,586 [grunt]