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[warning]
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[narrator] In Florida,
officers find a shocking
crime scene...
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[dog barking]
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[camera clicking]
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[camera clicking]
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[Det. Zachary Williams] Tha
was my first glance into wha
evil really looks like.
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Hey! Pull over!
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[narrator] ...in Wallingford
Connecticut, officers
confront an armed man...
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[Szeligowski] He was carryin
a backpack on his back,
and a large rifle case.
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[Szeligowski]
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[narrator] ...and in Nevada
a woman hangs on a bridge
30 feet over a freeway.
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[Rafael Rodriguez]
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[Rodriguez] I never really
considered the risk to myself,
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but I was just
so focused on her.
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[Rodriguez]
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That's when she
whispered, "I'm sorry,"
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and that's
when I thought, this
is it, she's gonna let go.
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[indistinct police
dispatchers]
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[officer shouting]
Derrick Crawford
come outside!
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[narrator] In Northern
Florida, 40 miles
north of Orlando
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is the city of Deland.
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[Det. Zachary Williams]
It's a lot of woods,
it's a heavily wooded area.
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It's very generational
in that area, so families
are typically from there.
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There's a few calls throughout
everybody's career that
you just... You never forget,
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and this was
one a those calls.
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[dial tone]
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[phone ringing]
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[Nick]
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[caller]
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[Nick]
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[caller]
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[caller]
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[caller]
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[caller]
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[Nick]
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[caller]
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[caller]
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[Nick]
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[busy signal]
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[Nick]
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[Det. Joshua Mercer]
The caller had given,
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uh, a name that
I was familiar with,
which is Ronal Wells, Jr.
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He... He identified himself
as... As Ronal Wells, Jr.
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And in the call notes,
it viewed that he had,
uh, killed his father,
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so everything in the call
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was indicative
of Ronal Wells, Jr.
killing Ronal Wells, Sr.
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I was aware of who
the people were,
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I had a incident that occurr
a couple weeks prior
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to that event
regarding the whole family.
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There was a domestic issue
where there were some threat
made that were conditional,
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not really
warranting an arrest.
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Jr. was the aggressor.
There were some threats made
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But this call now,
it kind of, like,
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well, he's been aggressive
in the past verbally,
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so maybe this has manifeste
into somethin' physical.
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[dog barking]
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[Mercer] As I'm walking up,
I'm kinda lookin'
for Ronal Wells, Jr.,
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and as I approach,
I see Kolby Parker.
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Ronal Wells, Sr.
was Kolby Parker's
grandfather.
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[Mercer] I had met Kolby
Parker previously,
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I... I did have some
minor interaction
with him a couple weeks prio
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-[dog barking]
-Hi.
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[Mercer] As I open the door
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I can clearly see
Ronal Wells, uh,, Sr.
laying on the ground.
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[Parker]
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[Mercer] I saw
several stab wounds,
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I mean, there was
seven or eight stab wounds
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that were clearly visible,
um, neck and chest.
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It was almost to the point
that he was unrecognizable.
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[Parker]
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[Mercer]
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[Parker] Yeah.
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[Mercer] He had received
significant blows
from the baseball bat.
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I checked various
places for a pulse,
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it was very evident
that he was no longer alive.
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[Mercer]
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Come out to me, come here.
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[Parker]
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[Mercer]
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His hands did have
blood on them,
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but, uh, I couldn't
figure out if it was
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because, uh, he just attacked
this individual, or he was
attempting to save his life.
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I was lookin'
for Ronal Wells, Jr.,
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but he's not there
in the house.
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I was there alone
with Kolby Parker.
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His grandfather,
Ronal Wells Sr.
was laying there deceased.
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I'm tryin'
to establish a perimeter
for a crime scene perimeter
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and wait for more units,
and then we'll
kinda reorganize,
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and figure out what
a we need to do.
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Yeah.
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I stop EMS
from coming in there,
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because I knew at that point
this individual is deceased.
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There's nothing
that they can do except
for trample the crime scene
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[Sgt. Jason Dunlap]
When I got there, I...
I spoke with Deputy Mercer.
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[Mercer] Yeah,
let's go take a look.
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[Dunlap] Things definitely
appeared under control,
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Deputy Mercer had already
assessed the situation.
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And he was calm, the...
Kolby was walking around,
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and, uh, and staying
obviously away from the scene.
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[Mercer] He was
the only person there
that I was able to observe,
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so he's the only person
that has the whole story.
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[Parker]
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He claimed this
was a self-defense,
uh, situation,
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where... Where the decedent
had attacked him,
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and he defended himself
by stabbing this guy.
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[Mercer]
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Yeah, yeah.
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Keep goin',
keep goin', keep goin'.
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He began to exhibit
some kind of anxiety,
and some uncommon behavior.
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Concern is shifting.
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[Parker]
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[Mercer]
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[Dunlap]
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...If we're gonna
have some issues.
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[Mercer]
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Where I was
patting him down,
I definitely felt something
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I knew it wasn't drugs,
I knew it wasn't contraband
I knew it wasn't a weapon.
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[Dunlap]
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[Mercer]
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I say, "Well, he doesn't
have any weapons on 'em.'"
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I'm making a statement
because I'm tryin' a...
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In my mind,
I'm tryin' to figure out
what is this?
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[buzzing]
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[Mercer]
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[Dunlap]
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[Mercer]
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So...
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[Parker]
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[Mercer] Yeah, where's Jr. at?
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[Parker]
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[Mercer] Ronnie...
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[buzzing]
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He reached into his pockets,
and pulls out a set of ears.
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[Mercer] It was very eviden
that they were ears.
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That... They retained
their shape.
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[Mercer] Obviously,
it... It doesn't look
like a... A toy ear,
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but you could tell
with the cartilage
that it was an ear.
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It was implied by Kolby Park
that these did belong to Jr
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[Dunlap] I went to my vehicl
which was just a, you know,
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short distance away,
in the front yard there.
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To... To get
bags for the ears,
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and... And collect them,
uh, for later evidence.
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[Parker]
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[Mercer]
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Hey! Get down!
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I heard that they were having
a struggle back at the truck,
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so I attempted
to utilize my Taser.
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[Parker] Agh!
No! No! No Taser.
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[Dunlap] Get off! I can't
see what's going on.
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[Mercer] He's was tryin'
to get at my [bleep] gun.
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He definitely was
exhibiting signs of strength
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uh, that were beyond
what we would have
expected out of him.
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[Dunlap] 33 traffic, Lake,
we're fightin' 'em!
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[Williams]
So when I arrived on scene,
I'll...I'll never forget it
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I just see a... A pile
of... Of deputies tryin'
to get control of this guy.
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[Mercer] He's tryin'
to get up. Get him down!
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[Williams]
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[Dunlap]
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[Parker] I'll give it back
to him when I'm done.
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[Dunlap] You're not having it.
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[Williams]
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[Dunlap] Slow down!
It's back here.
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[Williams] It can be
what we refer
to as excited delirium.
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To this state
where it's almost like
this super human strength.
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Tasers have no effect.
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And that can
come off of drug use,
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but it could just be somethi
within their own head.
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It's just a matter of tryin
to contain that person.
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[Mercer] Well, as soon
as the fight occurred,
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I just tossed the ears
into the back of... My...
The bed of my truck.
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[Dunlap] What's that?
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-[Williams] I wanna make sure.
-[Dunlap] Oh, yeah, yeah.
No, we're live.
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[Dunlap]
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Those are ears.
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[Mercer]
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We have to go in,
and we're gonna have
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to do a search of the house
to make sure there's
nobody else in there.
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[Dunlap]
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[dog barking]
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[Dunlap]
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-[Mercer] Lethal.
-[Dunlap] I got lethal.
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[Williams] The mutilation
that was done to the victim
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that's not something
that's done in self-defense,
that's a pre-meditated act.
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[Mercer] As we walked insid
there was a table, and it ha
a... A blood-stained knife.
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There was the baseball bat.
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On the wall
in Kolby Parker's
bedroom was a apron,
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and it said
the family butcher on it.
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And it had various body part
I think there was ears, nose
and it had fake blood on it
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[narrator] Officers
search the house,
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but there is no sign
of Ronal Wells, Jr.
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Police learn that Ronal Jr.
the victim's son, was out to
when his father was killed.
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He had no knowledge of,
or involvement in the attack
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Kolby Parker made
that strange call to 911.
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[buzzing]
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[Williams] I rode with Kolb
in the ambulance
on the way to the hospital,
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so he can
get medically cleared.
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And I just remember
looking into his eyes...
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and there was nothing there
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That was my first glance
into what evil
really looks like,
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and you... You just can't
shake that once you see it.
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[Mercer]
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[Parker]
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[Mercer]
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[Parker]
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[Mercer]
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[Parker]
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[Mercer]
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I don't think the dog
took the skin off the arm.
The... The wound is too clean.
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It seems to be done
with an edge weapon,
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like the knife
that was used
to stab him several times.
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[Parker]
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[Mercer]
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[Parker]
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[Mercer]
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[Parker]
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[Mercer]
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[Parker]
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[Mercer]
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[Parker]
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[Mercer]
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[Parker]
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[Mercer]
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[narrator] Kolby Parker
plead no contest to murder
in the second degree,
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and was sentenced
to 50 years behind bars.
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[Mercer] I think
this is a once
in a lifetime career event.
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This is something
that does not happen
on a regular basis.
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And as...
As a homicide detective,
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I'm... I'm kind
of exposed to some, uh,
more heinous crimes now,
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and I haven't seen
anything quite like it since.
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[narrator] In the heart
of Connecticut, lies
the rural town of Wallingfor
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[Kelly Boyle] In 2021,
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the state of Connecticut
had over 20 intimate
partner violent homicides.
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And that's a lot.
One is too many.
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Around 3:00 p.m.
a woman walked
into the police department,
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and then stated
that her husband
had assaulted her.
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And that he might
be armed with a rifle
at their house.
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She said his name
was Christopher Poach.
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He told her he was going
to slaughter her.
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And at that point,
the priority was to apprehen
Christopher safely.
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Officer Peckham
and I, we're more
of a specialized unit.
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So we sued the undercover
car, and we're generally
dressed in everyday clothes.
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[Szeligowski] Our initial jo
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was just to get surveillanc
on the house,
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and just make sure
that no one came
outta the house,
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and no one went
into the house.
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[Nicholas Peckham]
We parked about a house
and a half distance away.
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We were stationed there
for quite a while
just watchin' the house.
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Eventually several other
officers arrive on scene,
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and start
creating a perimeter.
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And then a red car
pulls into the driveway,
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and a older woman
and kids get out,
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and they start walking towards
the front of the house.
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[Szeligowski]
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[Peckham] They get
back in the car,
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and they're instructed
to go down the road.
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We solved one issue,
getting the children
out of harm's way,
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but we created another,
that we escalated the scene
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from, uh, loose perimeter
and surveillance to now
he knows we're there.
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[Peckham] So we decide
to constrict the perimeter,
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and take up positions
of cover around the house.
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[Szeligowski]
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[Peckham] So the woman
in the red vehicle
was the suspect's mother,
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and she's giving more
information to us.
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[Peckham]
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[Szeligowski]
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[Peckham] So at that point,
it became more real.
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And we wanna take
that situation
a little more seriously.
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[dispatcher]
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[Szeligowski] This is now
at the worst case scenario.
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He did have firearms,
he wasn't going to comply
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with any orders
or commands we
were giving him,
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and he became
a barricaded subject.
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That's a potential shoot-out
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The lieutenant on shift,
was informing us that
the SWAT team was coming out.
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waiting for them to arrive.
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[Peckham speaking]
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[Vincent Szeligowski speaking]
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[shouting]
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Agh! Agh!
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[panting]
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When the rifle sticks
out of the window,
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I'm the only officer
in the backyard.
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I don't know what his plan
is at that point.
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About 15-20 seconds goes by
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and he comes
out the rear a the house,
and onto the deck.
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He then jumps off the deck,
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and he's carrying a...
A backpack on his back,
and a large rifle case.
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I jump out from behind
my cover with my gun drawn,
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yelling at him, "Drop the gu
Get on the ground!
Drop the gun!"
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He looks at me,
he clearly hears my commands
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but he disregards them
and he just takes off runnin
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He actually starts to unzip
the rifle case while running
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and he draws the rifle
from the case.
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I drop my radio
to have a steadier shot,
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because at any moment,
I may need to take that shot.
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He had already assaulted
and threatened
to kill his wife.
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As we're approaching
the road, he drops his bag.
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I... I don't know
if I had tripped
on his bag,
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or I had just
stumbled in general,
but at that point I fell.
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I did a... A roll
and jumped back up,
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and I get another burst
of energy and I start
catching up to him again.
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He starts running towards
the little wooden fence.
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As he jumped
over the fence,
he fell.
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Then I was able
to clear the fence
and get right on top of him
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And he didn't fight
at that point.
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You know, we held him down,
we got him his handcuffs.
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And it almost just seemed
that he was exhausted,
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and he just couldn't
do it anymore.
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And then at that point,
we put him in the cruiser,
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and he was brought
to the station, where he was
then booked and processed
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for the crimes
that he had committed.
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[narrator] Christopher Poac
is found guilty of carrying
a pistol without a permit,
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assault in the third degree
and threatening
in the second degree.
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He's sentenced
to five years in jail.
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[Kelly Boyle] He served
about a year.
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The victim is aware
that he is out,
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and it's from my understanding
that she's nervous.
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The last time I saw her
was in December.
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She said that she was doing
well, and her kids
were doing well,
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and she expressed gratitude
to the police department,
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in helping her to get
out of that cycle,
and that situation.
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[narrator] In Nevada,
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U.S. 95 is one of the main
arteries running northwest
out of Las Vegas.
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The highway is part of
state trooper Rafael
Rodriguez's patrol territory
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[Rodriguez] We have
three major freeways
here in Las Vegas,
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and we have a population
about almost
three million people.
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The traffic...
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...it's pretty bad.
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The most common
incidents that I respond to
are motor vehicle collisions
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I take pride
in helping others.
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It's always been a part of me.
That's how I was raised.
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00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,536
During the evening,
I received a call
that there's a woman
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hanging on the a... Other side
of the overpass fence
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on the westbound side
of Russell and U.S. 95,
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attempting to take
her life and jump
onto northbound traffic.
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I was the closest unit
at that time.
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00:25:52,118 --> 00:25:54,919
It could take
maybe five minutes,
lights and sirens,
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to get there in a safe
and timely manner.
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00:25:59,225 --> 00:26:02,526
Suicide attempts have become
more frequent here
in Las Vegas
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on the overpass bridges
and on our freeways.
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When that call came out,
a lot of things go through
your mind,
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00:26:10,303 --> 00:26:12,102
but you just wanna get there
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When I arrived on scene,
I believe it was like a beig
four-door sedan,
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00:26:23,215 --> 00:26:25,449
which was just parked
on the shoulder.
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I was gonna go speak
to the... The driver,
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but then I looked
and I was like, "Oh, no."
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00:26:30,690 --> 00:26:34,525
I noticed a female
that was hanging
on the opposite side
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00:26:34,527 --> 00:26:38,329
of the safety fence,
on the westbound overpass,
by her fingertips.
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00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:41,732
And it shocked
me a little bit.
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00:26:41,834 --> 00:26:45,035
From the safety fence
all the way to the bottom
of the freeway,
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it was... It was
about 30 feet.
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00:26:47,239 --> 00:26:49,039
It is a very
substantial height.
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If you fall, you could die.
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00:27:07,827 --> 00:27:11,428
[Rodriguez] I let dispatch
know because we have
to stop traffic.
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00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:16,000
That sets up fire and medical,
so if they need a stage
on the bottom of the overpass,
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00:27:16,002 --> 00:27:18,202
they have a clean area
to... To work with.
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00:27:30,349 --> 00:27:33,417
I'm the first one there,
I need to go back
to my training,
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00:27:33,419 --> 00:27:35,519
and I need to let her know
that I'm here to help.
360
00:27:37,456 --> 00:27:39,423
[woman speaking]
361
00:27:39,425 --> 00:27:41,325
[Rodriguez speaking]
362
00:27:42,962 --> 00:27:45,462
[woman sobbing]
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00:27:45,531 --> 00:27:46,930
[Rodriguez speaking]
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00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:50,601
I was scared. I was worried
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00:27:51,504 --> 00:27:53,337
She was holding on
by her fingertips,
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00:27:53,406 --> 00:27:56,707
and she was shaking
and crying hysterically.
367
00:27:56,709 --> 00:27:58,509
I have to try
to steer her away
368
00:27:58,511 --> 00:28:01,045
from whatever thoughts
she might be having
at that moment.
369
00:28:07,853 --> 00:28:09,053
[woman speaking]
370
00:28:09,154 --> 00:28:11,321
[Rodriguez speaking]
371
00:28:16,062 --> 00:28:17,961
I just didn't want
to put pressure on her.
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00:28:17,963 --> 00:28:20,130
I don't want
to see her take her life.
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00:28:21,701 --> 00:28:24,702
There wasn't that much
space for her to move.
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00:28:24,704 --> 00:28:28,338
There's maybe an inch
between the bottom
of the safety fence
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00:28:28,407 --> 00:28:30,941
and the concrete slab
that holds it together.
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00:28:32,111 --> 00:28:33,811
There's nowhere
for me to grab her,
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00:28:33,813 --> 00:28:37,715
so, I mean, if she just
decides to let go,
it's a done deal.
378
00:28:42,188 --> 00:28:44,321
[Erickson speaking]
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00:28:44,323 --> 00:28:47,424
I had my backup,
and then I can focus
on the female
380
00:28:47,426 --> 00:28:49,259
that's on the other,
uh, side of the fence.
381
00:28:57,603 --> 00:29:01,038
I actually zoned
out a little bit.
382
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,407
It was just almost like
me and her at that moment.
383
00:29:04,543 --> 00:29:07,344
[woman speaking]
384
00:29:07,446 --> 00:29:08,612
[Rodriguez speaking]
385
00:29:10,015 --> 00:29:12,416
She's telling me that
she's sorry for her kids,
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00:29:12,418 --> 00:29:15,219
and that hurts because I hav
a son, I have a five year ol
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00:29:15,221 --> 00:29:17,221
and I have a family,
and I know she has a family
388
00:29:27,633 --> 00:29:29,233
[woman bawling]
389
00:29:29,334 --> 00:29:30,901
[Rodriguez speaking]
390
00:29:35,808 --> 00:29:37,708
[woman speaking]
391
00:29:37,710 --> 00:29:39,343
[Rodriguez speaking]
392
00:29:39,411 --> 00:29:42,446
[woman blubbering]
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00:29:42,548 --> 00:29:44,815
[Rodriguez] You wanna do
everything you can
to let her know
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00:29:44,817 --> 00:29:47,317
that she has things
that are worth living for.
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00:29:49,255 --> 00:29:53,724
And that's why I'm
so grateful that I had
my team there with me.
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00:29:53,726 --> 00:29:57,327
Now, it's not just
me thinking. I can get
their input, as well.
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00:29:57,930 --> 00:30:01,398
[Melody speaking]
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00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,934
[Rodriguez speaking]
The female officer,
she definitely helped.
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00:30:03,936 --> 00:30:06,837
She was able
to speak to the female,
keeping her occupied.
400
00:30:15,414 --> 00:30:18,015
[Erickson speaking]
401
00:30:18,017 --> 00:30:21,418
[Rodriguez] I was like,
what tools out here can we use
to break her fall, at least?
402
00:30:54,153 --> 00:30:55,452
[Erickson speaking]
403
00:30:55,554 --> 00:30:56,420
[Rodriguez speaking]
404
00:30:56,422 --> 00:30:58,522
[Erickson speaking]
405
00:30:58,524 --> 00:30:59,823
[Rodriguez] For a moment,
I was tryin' to think, like
406
00:30:59,825 --> 00:31:02,526
maybe I could wrap
her leg around it.
407
00:31:02,528 --> 00:31:05,829
We couldn't find anything
in our vehicles that... That
were gonna help us.
408
00:31:08,334 --> 00:31:10,434
I was scared,
I was worried,
and I was anxious.
409
00:31:13,205 --> 00:31:15,305
You keep thinking,
this is playing out right no
410
00:31:15,307 --> 00:31:17,073
you're... You're thinking
what else can I do?
411
00:31:18,811 --> 00:31:23,513
Words are not enough
at moments like these.
Now, it's time for action.
412
00:31:33,959 --> 00:31:36,860
[Erickson speaking]
413
00:31:37,897 --> 00:31:39,363
[Rodriguez speaking]
414
00:31:54,613 --> 00:31:56,813
It was a struggle,
'cause when you're
wearing a duty belt,
415
00:31:56,815 --> 00:31:58,648
that's like 30 pounds
on your waist.
416
00:31:58,650 --> 00:32:01,652
And then you're just
in an awkward position,
it's hard to lift yourself u
417
00:32:06,625 --> 00:32:09,826
[Melody speaking]
418
00:32:11,530 --> 00:32:15,565
[Rodriguez speaking]
419
00:32:15,567 --> 00:32:17,501
I just wanna
to let her know I'm here.
420
00:32:17,503 --> 00:32:20,304
This is me, this is the one
who's been talking
to you the entire time.
421
00:32:24,343 --> 00:32:25,509
-[woman speaking]
-[Rodriguez speaking]
422
00:32:25,511 --> 00:32:26,944
[Rodriguez speaking]
423
00:32:29,048 --> 00:32:30,514
These moments are crucial,
424
00:32:30,516 --> 00:32:33,951
and the time's
not on our side,
so I grabbed her hand.
425
00:32:34,052 --> 00:32:36,453
[woman speaking]
426
00:32:36,522 --> 00:32:39,623
[Rodriguez speaking]
427
00:32:40,726 --> 00:32:42,926
[woman blubbering]
428
00:32:42,928 --> 00:32:45,362
[Rodriguez speaking]
429
00:32:45,431 --> 00:32:48,298
I was gettin' scared
that I had provoked this.
430
00:32:49,201 --> 00:32:50,934
It shoots more adrenaline
through my body.
431
00:32:50,936 --> 00:32:54,404
It gets me more worried,
because I don't know
if she's just gonna let go.
432
00:33:04,717 --> 00:33:06,416
[woman blubbering]
433
00:33:06,418 --> 00:33:07,951
-[Rodriguez speaking]
-[woman blubbering]
434
00:33:07,953 --> 00:33:09,720
[Rodriguez speaking]
435
00:33:18,364 --> 00:33:20,530
[Erickson speaking]
436
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,932
[Rodriguez speaking]
437
00:33:25,104 --> 00:33:28,939
You try to build that trust
that confidence,
that rapport with her.
438
00:33:29,041 --> 00:33:31,942
I just wanted to let her kno
that I'd gone up there
439
00:33:32,011 --> 00:33:34,111
because I'm willing
to put my life on the line,
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00:33:34,113 --> 00:33:37,114
and that if we're gonna
go down, we're gonna
go down together.
441
00:33:40,786 --> 00:33:41,752
[Erickson speaking]
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00:33:41,754 --> 00:33:43,120
[Melody] Are you able
to get on this side?
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00:33:45,924 --> 00:33:48,558
[Rodriguez speaking]
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00:33:48,660 --> 00:33:51,728
She started
shimmying her way
onto the westbound side,
445
00:34:08,447 --> 00:34:10,614
[Melody] Yeah, stop
movin' over,
stop movin' over.
446
00:34:12,451 --> 00:34:13,817
[Rodriguez speaking]
447
00:34:17,056 --> 00:34:20,323
The altitude of the height
of the bridge is 30 feet high,
448
00:34:20,325 --> 00:34:23,427
so it almost guarantees
certainty of death.
449
00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:28,999
After the crying hystericall
she stopped.
450
00:34:29,001 --> 00:34:31,735
That frightened me,
'cause, I was, like,
she's gonna let go.
451
00:34:34,139 --> 00:34:35,505
[woman speaking]
452
00:34:41,113 --> 00:34:42,712
[Rodriguez speaking]
453
00:34:42,714 --> 00:34:45,415
[Melody speaking]
454
00:34:46,718 --> 00:34:50,220
[Rodriguez speaking]
455
00:34:50,222 --> 00:34:53,423
I was frightened that
I wasn't gonna be able
to save her life.
456
00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:55,325
[Melody] How many kids
do you have? I have--
457
00:34:55,327 --> 00:34:56,426
[Rodriguez speaking]
458
00:34:59,064 --> 00:35:00,763
I had stopped
grabbing her hand,
459
00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:03,500
and I started shimmying
my way to the other side
of the fence...
460
00:35:07,306 --> 00:35:10,607
...so I could prevent her
from going further west.
461
00:35:10,609 --> 00:35:12,642
[Rodriguez breathing heavily]
462
00:35:16,815 --> 00:35:19,216
[Rodriguez] I'd never
really considered
the risk to myself.
463
00:35:23,555 --> 00:35:25,355
I am conscience
of my movements,
464
00:35:25,457 --> 00:35:28,325
and, like, hey,
if I go more on this side
I'm gonna tip over.
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00:35:29,962 --> 00:35:30,927
[bleep]
466
00:35:31,964 --> 00:35:33,463
[Melody] Do you
have a boy or a girl?
467
00:35:33,565 --> 00:35:35,232
But I was just
so focused on her.
468
00:35:36,502 --> 00:35:40,537
[woman speaking]
469
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:42,405
[Melody speaking]
470
00:35:46,812 --> 00:35:48,544
[Rodriguez] I thought
we had a breakthrough
471
00:35:48,546 --> 00:35:52,716
when the Henderson police
officer said that she was
gonna be able to call her mom.
472
00:35:52,718 --> 00:35:57,821
[woman blubbering]
473
00:36:02,761 --> 00:36:04,127
[Melody speaking]
474
00:36:04,129 --> 00:36:06,796
[Woman speaking]
475
00:36:06,798 --> 00:36:09,299
[Melody speaking]
476
00:36:09,301 --> 00:36:14,538
[Rodriguez] And I was, like
okay, so maybe she'll let m
guide her to the other side
477
00:36:14,606 --> 00:36:17,307
I was just tryin' to figure
out how we were gonna
get on the other side,
478
00:36:18,810 --> 00:36:21,745
and I'm seein' her
get more physically upset.
479
00:36:21,813 --> 00:36:24,714
Maybe, she thought
in her head, I don't wanna
be helped anymore.
480
00:36:29,221 --> 00:36:32,189
[woman blubbering]
481
00:36:32,191 --> 00:36:33,857
[Melody speaking]
482
00:36:33,926 --> 00:36:35,258
[Erickson speaking]
483
00:36:37,930 --> 00:36:41,598
[Melody speaking]
484
00:36:51,009 --> 00:36:52,209
[woman speaking]
485
00:36:52,211 --> 00:36:53,210
[Melody speaking]
486
00:36:59,117 --> 00:36:59,816
[Rodriguez speaking]
487
00:36:59,818 --> 00:37:01,918
[Melody speaking]
488
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,219
[Rodriguez speaking]
489
00:37:04,189 --> 00:37:06,423
While we're thinking, okay,
what can we do right now,
490
00:37:06,425 --> 00:37:08,258
so we can bring
this to an end,
491
00:37:08,326 --> 00:37:10,060
the Henderson Fire
Department had arrived.
492
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:17,801
[Rodriguez] The firefighter
actually gave me the idea.
493
00:37:17,803 --> 00:37:21,938
He said, "If you handcuff
her to the fence,
if she attempts to fall,
494
00:37:22,007 --> 00:37:24,808
she's just gonna break
her arms at the most,
but she's gonna survive."
495
00:37:27,913 --> 00:37:29,946
And I was still holding
onto the fence for a second
496
00:37:30,015 --> 00:37:34,718
and I could see
when he had said that,
it had bothered her.
497
00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:39,122
After the crying hystericall
she stopped.
498
00:37:39,124 --> 00:37:41,925
That frightened me,
'cause, I was, like,
she's gonna let go.
499
00:37:44,363 --> 00:37:45,695
[woman speaking]
500
00:37:45,697 --> 00:37:47,964
[Melody speaking]
501
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,532
[Rodriguez speaking]
502
00:37:52,137 --> 00:37:54,504
Her "sorry" turned
into something different.
503
00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:58,208
Like, looking at me saying,
"I'm really sorry for what
I'm gonna do in this moment.
504
00:38:11,456 --> 00:38:14,457
In my heart I believed
that that was the moment
she was gonna let go.
505
00:38:15,727 --> 00:38:18,395
You could just see
it in her eyes, and her face
506
00:38:18,397 --> 00:38:19,962
I'd never saw that before.
507
00:38:19,964 --> 00:38:23,133
Somebody going
from a... An extreme
of crying hysterically
508
00:38:23,234 --> 00:38:26,936
to almost, like a moment
of bliss, of calmness.
509
00:38:26,938 --> 00:38:31,441
It's almost like she froze,
and then she
just looked at me.
510
00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:34,110
That's when she whispered,
"I'm sorry,"
511
00:38:34,112 --> 00:38:36,513
and that's when I thought,
this is it, she's
gonna let go.
512
00:38:38,050 --> 00:38:42,118
My adrenaline, my hands
were shaking a little bit.
513
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,656
So I took my handcuffs out,
I had 'em in the back
of my right hand.
514
00:38:52,831 --> 00:38:53,930
[woman speaking]
515
00:39:00,038 --> 00:39:02,005
[Rodriguez breathing heavily]
516
00:39:03,675 --> 00:39:06,609
[Rodriguez] I let go
of the fence,
I grabbed onto her wrist,
517
00:39:06,611 --> 00:39:08,411
I put on the sets
of handcuffs,
518
00:39:08,413 --> 00:39:12,515
and then I used the other se
and secured it onto the fenc
519
00:39:12,517 --> 00:39:15,452
And I grabbed
onto her other wrist,
and I did the same.
520
00:39:16,922 --> 00:39:19,222
[woman sobbing]
521
00:39:24,629 --> 00:39:26,129
[Rodriguez speaking]
522
00:39:26,832 --> 00:39:32,802
[woman speaking]
523
00:39:40,112 --> 00:39:42,846
-[Rodriguez speaking]
-[fireman] Perfect!
524
00:39:42,914 --> 00:39:45,615
[Rodriguez] But when I said
"Hey, I got
the second one on,"
525
00:39:45,617 --> 00:39:47,717
I just knew, I was, like,
it's... It's over.
526
00:39:50,222 --> 00:39:52,956
After that, a sense
of relief came through me,
527
00:39:53,024 --> 00:39:55,558
[exhaling] because I knew
that she wasn't gonna
go anywhere.
528
00:39:56,495 --> 00:39:58,394
I could breathe again.
529
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,701
The Henderson Fire Departmen
had already had the ladder
truck on the bottom,
530
00:40:04,703 --> 00:40:07,137
and they already set up
everything perfectly.
531
00:40:16,214 --> 00:40:16,913
[Rodriguez speaking]
532
00:40:23,221 --> 00:40:24,620
[Rodriguez speaking]
533
00:40:28,126 --> 00:40:30,727
[Rodriguez] She's
in great hands,
and that was it.
534
00:40:34,032 --> 00:40:36,433
[Rodriguez speaking]
535
00:40:36,534 --> 00:40:40,937
I knew that the magnitude
of what I had did,
it was extreme.
536
00:40:41,006 --> 00:40:42,939
It's almost like
something spiritual,
537
00:40:42,941 --> 00:40:46,075
something that you don't
know that's inside a you.
538
00:40:46,077 --> 00:40:48,111
A lotta things ran
through my mind...
My family.
539
00:40:48,113 --> 00:40:50,313
I was going back home
to my... My son.
540
00:40:51,316 --> 00:40:56,319
[exhaling repeatedly]
541
00:40:56,321 --> 00:41:01,624
I remember crouching
down, and... And just...
I wanted to cry.
542
00:41:02,494 --> 00:41:03,827
It's just such a relief.
543
00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:05,528
-It's over here?
-[Simmons] Yeah.
544
00:41:18,376 --> 00:41:20,343
[narrator] The family
of the woman was grateful
545
00:41:20,445 --> 00:41:22,111
to the officers
for their help.
546
00:41:24,249 --> 00:41:27,450
The woman, herself, approve
this footage being shown.
547
00:41:30,121 --> 00:41:32,856
[Rodriguez] I do think
about the lady on the bridge
a lot, actually.
548
00:41:33,925 --> 00:41:37,060
I felt a connection with he
at that moment.
549
00:41:37,062 --> 00:41:39,262
We have just went through
this traumatic event together.
550
00:41:40,966 --> 00:41:44,534
I think about her,
that she's able
to reunite with her kids.
551
00:41:45,604 --> 00:41:47,036
I was just happy.
552
00:41:48,507 --> 00:41:50,540
It came to an end,
and it came
to a successful end,
553
00:41:50,608 --> 00:41:52,842
and it was the best
possible outcome.
554
00:41:54,713 --> 00:41:57,814
That moment
had such an impact.
I'll never forget it.