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[narrator] In New Mexico,
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a shootout with a lone gunman
puts Albuquerque's finest
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directly in the firing line.
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[Officer Eichel]
I felt the pain.
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And I looked to see my arm
was bleeding profusely.
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[muffled gunfire]
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{\an8}[Officer Gunderson speaking]
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{\an8}[officer] Two, two.
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{\an8}[officer] Two, two.
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{\an8}[narrator] And in Ohio,
officers race
against the clock
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{\an8}to save two young hostages.
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{\an8}[man speaking]
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{\an8}[knocking at door]
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[Lt. Weidman] He was in
a high stress situation.
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And I could tell that he was
willing to risk everything,
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and that combination is scary.
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[explosion]
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[narrator] In the high
desert of New Mexico,
is the city of Albuquerque.
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[Sgt. Kenny] It is, by far,
the largest city
in New Mexico.
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{\an8}We have a horrendous
crime problem.
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{\an8}It is the Wild West.
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{\an8}[police dispatch speaking]
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{\an8}[teen1 speaking]
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{\an8}[teen1 speaking]
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{\an8}[police dispatch speaking]
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{\an8}[teen1 speaking]
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{\an8}[teen2 speaking]
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{\an8}[police dispatch speaking]
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{\an8}[teen2 speaking]
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{\an8}[teen1 speaking]
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{\an8}[police dispatch speaking]
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{\an8}[teen2 speaking]
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{\an8}[police dispatch speaking]
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{\an8}[teen2 speaking]
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{\an8}[police dispatch speaking]
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{\an8}[police dispatch]
Albuquerque police,
operator 44-60.
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{\an8}Yes, go ahead.
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{\an8}The call that was dispatched
was indicating that
a high school teenager
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had been robbed at gunpoint.
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And I can hear that only
one officer was gonna
be able to go.
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Officer Mario Verbeck
announced that
he was available,
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and he would try
and meet with the victim.
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And I messaged the dispatcher
and let her know
I would also be en route.
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And I messaged the dispatcher
and let her know
I would also be en route.
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-[car door closes]
-[Officer Eichel] I could hear
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on the radio,
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Officer Verbeck was able
to find the victim.
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{\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking]
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{\an8}[teen2 speaking]
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{\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking]
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{\an8}[teen2 speaking]
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{\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking]
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{\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking]
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[teen2] Uh...
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{\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking]
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{\an8}[teen2 speaking]
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{\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking]
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{\an8}Officer Verbeck was able to
give me a pretty clear
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{\an8}Officer Verbeck was able to
give me a pretty clear
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{\an8}identifying clothing
description.
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{\an8}[teen2 speaking]
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{\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking]
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[Officer Eichel]
The victim who was standing
beside Officer Verbeck
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pointed out
the alleged suspects.
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And they were right
across the street from him.
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{\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking]
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[Officer Eichel]
Officer Verbeck
gets on the radio,
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and I can hear his voice
change slightly.
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It was more pressured.
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As I turn the corner,
I can see
Officer Verbeck point
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to two males
walking into an alley.
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{\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking]
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{\an8}[Officer Eichel speaking]
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{\an8}[police radio chatter]
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[Officer Eichel]
They entered into an alleyway.
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It was full of weeds
and debris that had
been dumped there.
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So I quickly
lost sight of them.
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These people were potentially
armed with a gun.
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These people were potentially
armed with a gun.
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The danger level
is extremely high now.
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[Officer Eichel] Police!
[shouts indistinctly]
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[gun fires]
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[gun firing continues]
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[exclaims in pain]
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[Officer Eichel] Shots fired.
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[grunts]
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{\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking]
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[groans]
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Officer Verbeck was
laying on the ground,
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and he let me know
he had been shot.
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When this happened,
I was just slightly ahead
of Officer Verbeck.
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[Officer Eichel]
Police! Stop!
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Stop!
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[gun firing]
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[gun firing]
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[groans]
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-[gun fires]
-[man yells]
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[Officer Eichel]
I felt the pain.
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And I looked to see my arm
was bleeding profusely.
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[police dispatch indistinct]
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[gun firing]
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[gasps]
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[Officer Eichel]
And it was then
that I realized
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I didn't have
any more ammunition.
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I felt that fear.
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I didn't have anything
to defend myself anymore.
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[gun firing]
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[gun firing]
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I had dropped my radio
so I couldn't call out.
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Let's go. Move, come on.
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I got hit.
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As soon as I turned around,
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I remembered that
Officer Verbeck was with me.
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He was also shot.
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I... I looked at him
and I was ready to...
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move him.
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But everything was already
turning, uh, black and white,
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like a gray scale image
for me.
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[gasps, groans]
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And I knew that
if I tried to lift him,
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And I knew that
if I tried to lift him,
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I was just gonna pass out,
and we were both
gonna be stuck there.
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I turned around and I ran
towards my police car,
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and I saw Jacquelin Hernandez
parking behind it.
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She's a PSA,
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a police service aide.
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{\an8}[Officer Eichel speaking]
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[grunts] Argh!
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{\an8}[Officer Eichel speaking]
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[gasping]
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[gasping]
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[groaning]
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{\an8}[Officer Eichel speaking]
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Mario was knocked down
on the ground.
He's been hit twice.
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I can't imagine the amount
of pain he is in.
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[Officer Eichel]
I wish that I had
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[Officer Eichel]
I wish that I had
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the ability in that moment,
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to lift him and
take him with me, away.
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{\an8}I did hear, "Officer down"
several times,
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{\an8}which is a sickening feeling,
'cause you don't know
how bad they are.
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You can hear in their voices
that it's not good.
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[Sgt. Kenny] As I'm
driving down the road,
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I hear, just a ton
of gunshots.
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I hear, just a ton
of gunshots.
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I can't tell you how many,
but it was a lot.
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[engine revving]
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As I came around the corner,
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I saw, what I think
is the second suspect,
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exit the alley and
run away from me.
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I could see
his hands were clear
he didn't have a gun in them.
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And I could still hear
the gunfire to my north,
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indicating that to me
he wasn't the threat.
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The threat was still
to my right, or north.
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[police sirens blaring]
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Officer Gunderson
has pulled up ahead of me.
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Officer Gunderson
has pulled up ahead of me.
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I exited my vehicle, went to
the concrete wall for cover.
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[police radio beeps]
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Looking, I see
a person's head pop up.
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I immediately realize
this is our guy.
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And he was kind of creeping
through the back parking lot.
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{\an8}[Officer Gunderson speaking]
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{\an8}[gun firing]
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[Sgt. Kenny] When he
came around the corner
and ran into Harry and I,
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I don't think
he was prepared for us.
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And so he basically
stood still in the middle
of the parking lot,
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and his tactics, I think,
were to put as much
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ammunition down towards us
as he possibly could.
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[gun firing]
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[Officer Gunderson]
There were cars there.
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Thank God,
nobody was in the cars.
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Thank God,
nobody was in the cars.
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[gun clicks, fires]
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{\an8}[Officer Gunderson speaking]
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[gun fires]
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A round came through
the passenger side,
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of my far edge windshield.
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And I immediately got hit
in the eye with something.
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I thought it was glass,
I wasn't sure what it was.
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I thought it was glass,
I wasn't sure what it was.
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-[gasps]
-[man yells]
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So immediately,
my eye went blurry.
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It started bleeding,
it started watering.
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I couldn't really see at all
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out of my right eye.
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-[breathes heavily]
-[police radio beeps]
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{\an8}[police dispatch speaking]
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{\an8}[man speaking]
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{\an8}[police dispatch speaking]
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{\an8}[woman gasps, speaking]
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{\an8}[police dispatch speaking]
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{\an8}[woman speaking]
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[gunfire continues]
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[Sgt. Kenny]
I went to the rear of
Officer Gunderson's vehicle.
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I went to the ground,
went prone.
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Um, my goal being basically
to flank him and distract him.
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If he has two things
to think about,
he has to think about me,
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If he has two things
to think about,
he has to think about me,
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he has to think about
Officer Gunderson,
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and we're not close
to each other,
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that gives us a much better
chance of stopping him.
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[gun fires]
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[Officer Gunderson]
He's still firing.
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And we know he's hit.
We can see him bleeding.
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And he doesn't care.
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{\an8}[Officer Gunderson speaking]
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[gun fires]
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[Sgt. Kenny] And I hear
Harry say, "He's reloading."
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And I'm perplexed.
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[cartridge clicks]
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Who are we dealing with?
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That he's fired
this many rounds,
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and he's still reloading
and he's still going.
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and he's still reloading
and he's still going.
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-[gun fires]
-[police sirens blaring]
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[narrator] Officer Verbeck
is still down at the other end
of the alley.
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The gunman continues to fire,
so it's not yet safe
for EMS to move in.
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{\an8}I'm angry, because I know
I've got officers struck.
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{\an8}I don't know
what their condition is.
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{\an8}I'm extremely concerned
for them.
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{\an8}[gun firing]
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{\an8}He is still shooting.
He was crouched down,
just a little bit,
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but made no effort to run
towards any type of cover.
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but made no effort to run
towards any type of cover.
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So I don't think
he had any tactics.
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[gun firing]
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-[gun fires]
-[police sirens blaring]
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-[gunshots]
-[man yells]
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{\an8}[Sgt. Kenny speaking]
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{\an8}[Officer Gunderson speaking]
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He kind of started screaming.
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But with the shadows
of the tree that he was under,
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the dark sweatshirt he had on,
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the dark sweatshirt he had on,
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we couldn't see
where the gun was.
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[Sgt. Kenny] Several of
our tactical guys,
our SWAT guys, showed up.
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{\an8}[SWAT officer speaking]
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{\an8}[Officer Gunderson speaking]
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[male officer on radio]
You want me to start down
north now?
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[female officer on radio]
Does anyone have eyes on
the perp yet?
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[officers speaking inaudibly]
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[police radio chatter]
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[Sgt. Kenny] He is clearly
hit at least twice.
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You're relieved
that it's over,
246
00:12:58,567 --> 00:13:01,567
but now you need to
start taking stock
of what's going on.
247
00:13:01,567 --> 00:13:04,326
I know I need rescue for him,
but my main concern is,
248
00:13:04,326 --> 00:13:04,667
I know I need rescue for him,
but my main concern is,
249
00:13:04,667 --> 00:13:05,000
is my two officers
to the north.
What's their status?
250
00:13:07,567 --> 00:13:08,767
[indistinct radio chatter]
251
00:13:12,467 --> 00:13:13,100
[exclaims in pain]
252
00:13:13,900 --> 00:13:15,200
[gun fires]
253
00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:18,000
[Officer Eichel] Shots fired.
254
00:13:19,166 --> 00:13:20,433
[grunts]
255
00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,767
[Officer Verbeck]
I can hear
the bullets whizzing,
256
00:13:38,667 --> 00:13:39,800
breaking through...
257
00:13:41,367 --> 00:13:42,567
the leaves.
258
00:13:48,500 --> 00:13:49,166
[exclaims in pain]
259
00:13:49,867 --> 00:13:51,066
I get shot.
260
00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,367
My right arm
just f... fell limp,
261
00:13:55,367 --> 00:13:56,967
and just...
I couldn't feel anything.
262
00:13:57,767 --> 00:13:59,567
It... My... I dropped my gun.
263
00:14:00,567 --> 00:14:02,567
So, I reached down
with my left hand...
264
00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:03,700
[grunts]
265
00:14:05,467 --> 00:14:07,567
I was struck in my left arm.
266
00:14:08,467 --> 00:14:10,266
I just fell flat.
267
00:14:11,467 --> 00:14:12,266
{\an8}[speaking]
268
00:14:12,266 --> 00:14:13,000
{\an8}[Officer Eichel]
Let's go, come on.
269
00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:13,667
{\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking]
270
00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:18,767
Um...
271
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[police radio chatter muffled]
272
00:14:22,867 --> 00:14:24,100
I did fall asleep.
273
00:14:25,166 --> 00:14:26,200
[gunshots]
274
00:14:27,166 --> 00:14:28,467
{\an8}[Johnny speaking]
275
00:14:37,367 --> 00:14:39,400
[Officer Verbeck]
And I woke up,
opened my eyes,
276
00:14:39,467 --> 00:14:45,700
and all I'd seen was a head
on top of a CMU brick wall.
277
00:14:45,767 --> 00:14:48,667
That normal person,
he lived off that area.
278
00:14:48,667 --> 00:14:50,767
He jumped that wall.
279
00:14:51,567 --> 00:14:52,200
{\an8}[Johnny speaking]
280
00:14:54,467 --> 00:14:55,400
{\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking]
281
00:14:56,500 --> 00:14:57,967
I just told him,
"Get on my radio."
282
00:14:57,967 --> 00:14:59,900
I told him how to,
where to press the buttons.
283
00:15:00,567 --> 00:15:01,266
{\an8}[Johnny speaking]
284
00:15:03,166 --> 00:15:03,800
{\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking]
285
00:15:04,700 --> 00:15:05,000
{\an8}[Johnny speaking]
286
00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:16,667
[indistinct police
radio chatter]
287
00:15:20,667 --> 00:15:22,367
[indistinct police
radio chatter]
288
00:15:22,367 --> 00:15:24,066
Put your hand up.
289
00:15:28,100 --> 00:15:32,100
[man over police radio]
So we need fire to the 34...
[continues indistinctly]
290
00:15:32,100 --> 00:15:33,300
[shouts]
291
00:15:37,500 --> 00:15:38,767
[man over police radio]
We're in the parking lot...
292
00:15:45,367 --> 00:15:46,867
[breathing heavily]
293
00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,467
-[police sirens blaring]
-[police radio chatter]
294
00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,066
I'm here.
I'm gonna help you out.
295
00:15:54,066 --> 00:15:55,800
[indistinct radio chatter]
296
00:15:59,467 --> 00:16:02,500
[Officer Verbeck]
He jumped the wall,
knowing the risk
297
00:16:02,567 --> 00:16:04,326
of this guy, this perpetrator,
298
00:16:04,326 --> 00:16:05,000
of this guy, this perpetrator,
299
00:16:05,667 --> 00:16:07,767
just shooting wildly.
300
00:16:08,767 --> 00:16:11,400
But once he got me on my feet,
301
00:16:11,467 --> 00:16:14,300
and he got me gathered,
and we walked out...
302
00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,200
I was just
thankful for him,
303
00:16:18,266 --> 00:16:22,166
for having the courage
to come help me,
304
00:16:22,166 --> 00:16:24,867
an officer in need,
an officer that was down.
305
00:16:24,867 --> 00:16:27,667
Because, if not,
I would have been
306
00:16:27,667 --> 00:16:30,266
just laid there,
and I don't know
what would have happened.
307
00:16:30,266 --> 00:16:31,166
[indistinct police
radio chatter]
308
00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,200
[Officer Eichel]
You know,
309
00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:34,326
{\an8}you watch TV,
and the way it's portrayed is
310
00:16:34,326 --> 00:16:35,000
{\an8}you watch TV,
and the way it's portrayed is
311
00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:38,900
{\an8}people think of
all their memories.
312
00:16:39,567 --> 00:16:40,900
And I was the opposite.
313
00:16:40,967 --> 00:16:41,967
[groans in pain]
314
00:16:41,967 --> 00:16:43,333
[man] Don't worry about it.
315
00:16:48,166 --> 00:16:52,100
[Officer Eichel]
What I did think about
was what I would miss,
316
00:16:52,166 --> 00:16:53,400
if I died.
317
00:16:53,467 --> 00:16:54,967
-[groaning]
-Don't worry about it.
318
00:16:54,967 --> 00:16:57,100
[Officer Eichel]
If it pierced my heart,
319
00:16:57,166 --> 00:17:00,367
then I was gonna miss
a lot of important days.
320
00:17:00,367 --> 00:17:01,734
You're doing good.
321
00:17:03,667 --> 00:17:04,326
[Sgt. Kenny]
Officer Jones walks up to me
and he goes,
322
00:17:04,326 --> 00:17:05,000
[Sgt. Kenny]
Officer Jones walks up to me
and he goes,
323
00:17:05,166 --> 00:17:06,200
"Hey, are you okay?
Are you hit?"
324
00:17:06,266 --> 00:17:07,567
And I'm like,
"No, I'm not hit."
325
00:17:07,567 --> 00:17:09,400
So, he starts
checking over me.
326
00:17:09,467 --> 00:17:11,700
He looks and he points
at the middle of my chest,
327
00:17:11,767 --> 00:17:13,367
and he goes,
"Is this hole new?"
328
00:17:13,367 --> 00:17:14,867
And I'm... What hole?
329
00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:18,000
So, I look down
and there's a little hole
in my plate vest.
330
00:17:18,066 --> 00:17:21,467
And I keep a notebook, um,
right in the front of my vest.
331
00:17:21,467 --> 00:17:23,767
He pulls the notebook out
and there's
a bullet hole in it.
332
00:17:23,767 --> 00:17:25,967
And so,
it's pretty clear that,
333
00:17:25,967 --> 00:17:28,767
yes, I was, in fact,
shot in my, in my chest.
334
00:17:29,767 --> 00:17:30,467
{\an8}[woman speaking]
335
00:17:30,467 --> 00:17:31,367
{\an8}[Officer Gunderson speaking]
336
00:17:31,367 --> 00:17:32,533
{\an8}[woman speaking]
337
00:17:33,567 --> 00:17:34,326
[Officer Gunderson]
I did have surgery that night.
338
00:17:34,326 --> 00:17:35,000
[Officer Gunderson]
I did have surgery that night.
339
00:17:35,367 --> 00:17:37,500
Uh, they removed
the... [sighs]
340
00:17:37,567 --> 00:17:42,200
...shrapnel and put,
I believe,
seven stitches in my eye.
341
00:17:42,266 --> 00:17:44,200
I'm 100% recovered from that.
342
00:17:46,767 --> 00:17:49,100
[narrator] The shooter
is James Ramirez,
343
00:17:49,166 --> 00:17:53,367
a 27-year-old,
with a previous conviction
of first degree burglary.
344
00:17:55,667 --> 00:17:57,400
He came from California
to New Mexico.
345
00:17:57,467 --> 00:17:59,200
He'd only been here
a couple of days.
346
00:17:59,266 --> 00:18:02,667
And he had enough money
to buy the gun
and buy the ammo.
347
00:18:02,667 --> 00:18:04,326
But yet, he's out,
using that to jack kids
for their backpacks.
348
00:18:04,326 --> 00:18:05,000
But yet, he's out,
using that to jack kids
for their backpacks.
349
00:18:09,066 --> 00:18:11,467
[Officer Gunderson]
The fact that
he's willing to shoot
350
00:18:11,467 --> 00:18:14,767
four police officers?
[exhales in huff] For what?
351
00:18:14,767 --> 00:18:16,467
For a video game?
352
00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,400
[narrator]
In February, 2022,
James Ramirez dies in custody,
353
00:18:22,467 --> 00:18:24,500
while awaiting
federal charges.
354
00:18:28,367 --> 00:18:31,000
That is my reminder.
355
00:18:33,100 --> 00:18:34,200
And, uh...
356
00:18:35,700 --> 00:18:37,667
looking at it,
357
00:18:37,667 --> 00:18:40,667
I'm... I'm grateful that
that's all I ended up with.
358
00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,266
[police sirens
blare distantly]
359
00:18:44,266 --> 00:18:47,266
The command staff
of our police department
360
00:18:47,266 --> 00:18:49,567
asked if they could
escort me home.
361
00:18:51,367 --> 00:18:53,867
My kids were able
to sit in the police cars,
362
00:18:53,867 --> 00:18:56,100
and we were able to make
lots of noise with sirens,
363
00:18:57,367 --> 00:18:59,066
and drive home together.
364
00:19:03,567 --> 00:19:04,326
[Officer Verbeck]
The first person I see
once I started waking up,
365
00:19:04,326 --> 00:19:05,000
[Officer Verbeck]
The first person I see
once I started waking up,
366
00:19:08,266 --> 00:19:09,467
is my wife,
367
00:19:10,300 --> 00:19:12,066
telling me that she loved me.
368
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,000
[gasps]
369
00:19:18,467 --> 00:19:20,700
The doctor was telling me
I was shot in the chest
370
00:19:20,767 --> 00:19:24,300
just above the collar line
of my vest.
371
00:19:24,367 --> 00:19:28,900
And it was just right below
the trachea area, here,
372
00:19:28,967 --> 00:19:33,166
and then in the backside
of my... my tricep.
373
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,867
He told me that
374
00:19:36,867 --> 00:19:38,867
I was a miracle to be here.
375
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,567
My wife and I
renewed our vows,
376
00:19:47,567 --> 00:19:49,367
to celebrate
our 30th anniversary
377
00:19:49,367 --> 00:19:50,867
that we never
got to celebrate,
378
00:19:50,867 --> 00:19:53,266
because I was in the hospital.
379
00:19:54,767 --> 00:19:56,667
Johnny Garcia was my best man.
380
00:20:05,867 --> 00:20:07,266
[all applauding]
381
00:20:15,166 --> 00:20:17,867
He saved my life
and I owe him my life.
382
00:20:24,266 --> 00:20:25,567
[Officer Eichel] Mr. Garcia...
383
00:20:26,967 --> 00:20:29,567
took it upon himself
to risk his own life,
384
00:20:29,567 --> 00:20:31,066
to jump into this,
385
00:20:31,066 --> 00:20:34,326
to get to the middle of
where everything
was taking place.
386
00:20:34,326 --> 00:20:35,000
to get to the middle of
where everything
was taking place.
387
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,567
Johnny Garcia is a hero.
388
00:20:39,567 --> 00:20:42,100
[St. Kenny] Johnny Garcia
was honored by
the mayor's office.
389
00:20:43,667 --> 00:20:46,567
I don't think there's
a whole lot of Johnny Garcias
on this planet,
390
00:20:46,567 --> 00:20:48,667
you know? I really don't.
391
00:20:48,667 --> 00:20:50,266
You know, especially...
Look, let's be honest,
392
00:20:50,266 --> 00:20:51,767
um, law enforcement
in this country
393
00:20:51,767 --> 00:20:55,367
has kind of been run
through the wringer
for the last few years.
394
00:20:55,367 --> 00:20:59,100
And, uh... [coughs]
...sometimes we feel alone.
395
00:20:59,100 --> 00:21:01,900
And the fact that
he did what he did,
shows that we're not.
396
00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:10,800
[narrator] 49 miles
south of Cleveland, Ohio,
397
00:21:11,767 --> 00:21:15,000
is Uniontown, in Stark County.
398
00:21:22,767 --> 00:21:24,867
[phone line ringing]
399
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:27,467
{\an8}[police dispatch speaking]
400
00:21:28,567 --> 00:21:29,200
{\an8}[woman speaking]
401
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:53,467
{\an8}[police dispatch speaking]
402
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,734
{\an8}[woman speaking]
403
00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:16,166
[narrator]
Lt. Nathan Weideman
responds to the call.
404
00:22:16,166 --> 00:22:17,800
[Lt. Weidman] As a lieutenant,
here at the police department,
405
00:22:17,867 --> 00:22:21,367
I respond, 24 hours a day,
to critical incidents.
406
00:22:21,367 --> 00:22:24,567
I'll come out and I'll be
our incident commander.
407
00:22:24,567 --> 00:22:26,867
{\an8}They told me the address
and the suspect's name,
408
00:22:26,867 --> 00:22:30,900
{\an8}and I instantly knew,
from the history that we had,
it wasn't gonna be good.
409
00:22:32,266 --> 00:22:35,300
We'd been responding to
"shots fired" calls,
410
00:22:35,367 --> 00:22:38,026
"fireworks calls,"
for a period of two months,
411
00:22:38,026 --> 00:22:38,266
"fireworks calls,"
for a period of two months,
412
00:22:38,266 --> 00:22:39,000
and this was all
related to our suspect.
413
00:22:40,867 --> 00:22:43,767
This person just got out
on bail, this same day.
414
00:22:52,867 --> 00:22:53,567
[knocking at door]
415
00:22:55,867 --> 00:22:56,500
[dog barking distantly]
416
00:23:05,867 --> 00:23:06,567
[dog barks]
417
00:23:06,567 --> 00:23:07,266
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
418
00:23:11,767 --> 00:23:12,667
{\an8}[officer1 speaking]
419
00:23:14,867 --> 00:23:15,500
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
420
00:23:27,166 --> 00:23:27,800
{\an8}[officer1 speaking]
421
00:23:31,467 --> 00:23:32,100
{\an8}[officer1 speaking]
422
00:23:36,667 --> 00:23:37,900
You have a [bleep] night.
423
00:23:40,700 --> 00:23:41,867
{\an8}[officer2 speaking]
424
00:23:41,867 --> 00:23:43,166
{\an8}-[officer1 speaking]
-[officer2] That truck?
425
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:44,667
{\an8}[officer1 speaking]
426
00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:46,367
{\an8}[officer2 speaking]
427
00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:53,033
{\an8}[officer1 speaking]
428
00:23:53,066 --> 00:23:54,000
{\an8}-[officer2 speaking]
-[officer1 speaking]
429
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:54,667
{\an8}[officer2 speaking]
430
00:23:56,667 --> 00:23:57,367
{\an8}[officer1 speaking]
431
00:23:57,367 --> 00:23:58,100
{\an8}[officer2 speaking]
432
00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:05,567
{\an8}[officer1] Yeah.
433
00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:10,767
{\an8}[officer2 speaking]
434
00:24:10,767 --> 00:24:12,066
{\an8}[officer1 clears throat] Um--
435
00:24:12,066 --> 00:24:12,767
{\an8}[officer 2 speaking]
436
00:24:16,300 --> 00:24:18,066
[officer1 chuckles softly]
437
00:24:18,066 --> 00:24:21,867
[Lt. Weidman] We obtained
a warrant for the charges
that we had at that time.
438
00:24:21,867 --> 00:24:25,166
He was incarcerated in jail
for less than 24 hours,
439
00:24:25,166 --> 00:24:27,000
released on bond that day,
440
00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:31,367
and eight hours later,
we were dispatched out
to his house for this call.
441
00:24:31,367 --> 00:24:33,467
When I found out that
there were children
in the house,
442
00:24:33,467 --> 00:24:35,567
and the circumstances
surrounding it,
443
00:24:35,567 --> 00:24:37,500
saying that there was
gonna be explosions,
444
00:24:37,567 --> 00:24:38,026
there was gonna be
loss of life,
445
00:24:38,026 --> 00:24:39,000
there was gonna be
loss of life,
446
00:24:39,166 --> 00:24:42,767
as a father, as a person,
it's absolutely terrifying.
447
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,600
[narrator]
Lt. Weidman gets a chance
448
00:24:46,667 --> 00:24:48,767
to end the standoff
right away.
449
00:24:51,767 --> 00:24:53,467
As I was talking
to our officers,
450
00:24:53,467 --> 00:24:56,300
our dispatch
said that they were
on the phone with him.
451
00:24:56,367 --> 00:24:59,066
I asked for them
to transfer him
to my cellphone.
452
00:24:59,066 --> 00:25:01,900
As soon as my cellphone rang,
I knew that it was him.
453
00:25:02,767 --> 00:25:03,667
It was go time.
454
00:25:05,367 --> 00:25:06,066
[phone ringing]
455
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:09,667
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
456
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:11,667
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
457
00:25:14,467 --> 00:25:15,100
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
458
00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:20,000
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
459
00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:24,767
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
460
00:25:27,166 --> 00:25:27,800
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
461
00:25:30,367 --> 00:25:31,000
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
462
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,266
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
463
00:25:35,867 --> 00:25:37,166
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
464
00:25:37,166 --> 00:25:38,000
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
465
00:25:42,567 --> 00:25:43,266
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
466
00:25:48,667 --> 00:25:49,367
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
467
00:25:51,967 --> 00:25:52,600
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
468
00:25:53,700 --> 00:25:54,834
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
469
00:25:56,867 --> 00:26:01,100
I could tell that he was
in a high stress situation.
470
00:26:01,166 --> 00:26:03,800
And I could tell that he was
willing to risk everything,
471
00:26:03,867 --> 00:26:05,767
and that combination is scary.
472
00:26:13,767 --> 00:26:14,400
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
473
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:17,667
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
474
00:26:18,367 --> 00:26:19,066
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
475
00:26:24,467 --> 00:26:25,166
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
476
00:26:28,867 --> 00:26:29,567
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
477
00:26:34,867 --> 00:26:35,567
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
478
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,026
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
479
00:26:38,026 --> 00:26:38,567
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
480
00:26:42,900 --> 00:26:45,266
[Lt. Weidman]
I quickly understood
that the girls were in there,
481
00:26:45,266 --> 00:26:48,567
and he wasn't
willing to negotiate.
He just wanted us gone.
482
00:26:48,567 --> 00:26:51,700
So my main priority
was making sure that
the girls were gonna be safe
483
00:26:51,767 --> 00:26:53,100
and then getting them
out of the house.
484
00:26:55,767 --> 00:26:58,300
[Sgt. Manser] I received
a call from our dispatch.
485
00:26:58,367 --> 00:27:00,266
They said that they
had received a call
486
00:27:00,266 --> 00:27:02,000
from Uniontown
Police Department,
487
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,200
had a situation in which
they could need more backup.
488
00:27:05,266 --> 00:27:08,026
{\an8}And asked, uh, for any
and all officers available
to come assist.
489
00:27:08,026 --> 00:27:08,967
{\an8}And asked, uh, for any
and all officers available
to come assist.
490
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:15,767
{\an8}[officer speaking]
491
00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:26,166
[police radio chatter]
492
00:27:26,166 --> 00:27:28,000
[Sgt. Manser] That perimeter
is extremely important.
493
00:27:28,066 --> 00:27:30,467
If you are on
one side of the house,
494
00:27:30,467 --> 00:27:34,567
there's three other sides
that things could be going on,
that you're unaware of.
495
00:27:34,567 --> 00:27:35,567
[police radio chatter]
496
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:38,026
{\an8}-[officer speaking]
-[Sgt. Manser speaking]
497
00:27:38,026 --> 00:27:38,266
{\an8}-[officer speaking]
-[Sgt. Manser speaking]
498
00:27:38,266 --> 00:27:39,000
{\an8}[officer speaking]
499
00:27:39,066 --> 00:27:39,700
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
500
00:27:40,867 --> 00:27:41,667
{\an8}[officer speaking]
501
00:27:43,467 --> 00:27:44,667
{\an8}[bleep]
502
00:27:44,667 --> 00:27:45,567
{\an8}[officer speaking over radio]
503
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:48,367
[Sgt. Manser]
You think the worst,
504
00:27:48,367 --> 00:27:51,467
it could be a firework,
it could be a gunshot.
505
00:27:51,467 --> 00:27:53,867
The main focus and concern
is to get up to that house,
506
00:27:53,867 --> 00:27:55,066
and see what's going on.
507
00:27:58,567 --> 00:28:01,266
I walked up and took cover
behind a tree.
508
00:28:01,266 --> 00:28:03,166
We were looking
over the whole unit.
509
00:28:03,166 --> 00:28:07,200
It was an apartment complex,
there were several units
attached to it.
510
00:28:07,266 --> 00:28:08,026
And the side we were on,
511
00:28:08,026 --> 00:28:08,967
And the side we were on,
512
00:28:08,967 --> 00:28:09,000
it was basically,
a three story
apartment complex.
513
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:14,500
So, we had
an upstairs bedroom,
514
00:28:14,567 --> 00:28:18,000
uh, middle floor patio,
and a basement door.
515
00:28:20,166 --> 00:28:20,867
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman] Well, we can't--
516
00:28:20,867 --> 00:28:21,567
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
517
00:28:26,367 --> 00:28:27,066
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
518
00:28:31,767 --> 00:28:32,400
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
519
00:28:39,667 --> 00:28:40,300
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
520
00:28:42,567 --> 00:28:44,400
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
521
00:28:55,266 --> 00:28:58,800
[Sgt. Manser] If you work
a midnight shift, you use
the cover of darkness well.
522
00:28:58,867 --> 00:29:01,066
{\an8}You do not wanna be seen
by the suspect.
523
00:29:01,066 --> 00:29:03,000
{\an8}You wanna have
that element of surprise.
524
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,767
{\an8}If he doesn't know
where you are,
525
00:29:04,767 --> 00:29:06,300
{\an8}you definitely have
a tactical advantage.
526
00:29:07,767 --> 00:29:08,467
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
527
00:29:11,166 --> 00:29:11,867
{\an8}[officer speaking]
528
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:13,667
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
529
00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:22,100
I got concerned.
530
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:24,900
If he was at that door,
he was clearly looking for us,
531
00:29:24,967 --> 00:29:27,467
or trying to
make our location.
532
00:29:27,467 --> 00:29:29,800
That would have taken away
that element of surprise,
533
00:29:29,867 --> 00:29:31,567
and it would have been
extremely dangerous for us.
534
00:29:34,467 --> 00:29:37,266
[narrator]
Lt. Weidman, again,
tries to get the suspect
535
00:29:37,266 --> 00:29:39,700
to release the children
he's holding hostage.
536
00:29:41,667 --> 00:29:42,300
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
537
00:29:43,867 --> 00:29:44,500
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
538
00:29:51,567 --> 00:29:52,266
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
539
00:29:52,266 --> 00:29:53,000
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
540
00:29:57,667 --> 00:29:58,367
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
541
00:30:04,367 --> 00:30:05,000
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
542
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,667
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
543
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:10,867
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
544
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,100
[Lt. Weidman] The fireworks
that our suspect
has been using,
545
00:30:32,166 --> 00:30:33,800
they're commercial fireworks.
546
00:30:33,867 --> 00:30:36,667
{\an8}So we know that the explosives
is enough to definitely
do some damage.
547
00:30:38,567 --> 00:30:40,867
It was a tough situation.
548
00:30:40,867 --> 00:30:42,600
The dilemma that we had
on this call,
549
00:30:42,667 --> 00:30:46,100
is that we wanted the girls
out safely, we wanted him
out safely,
550
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:46,858
but then he would
make the comments
551
00:30:46,858 --> 00:30:47,000
but then he would
make the comments
552
00:30:47,467 --> 00:30:50,200
that if we breached that door,
we were all gonna die.
553
00:30:52,567 --> 00:30:53,200
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
554
00:31:04,867 --> 00:31:06,333
[explosion]
555
00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:14,667
We could hear
the hiss of the firework
getting ignited.
556
00:31:14,667 --> 00:31:16,858
And he threw it out
towards our direction.
557
00:31:16,858 --> 00:31:17,000
And he threw it out
towards our direction.
558
00:31:18,467 --> 00:31:20,700
It was an extremely
scary situation.
559
00:31:20,767 --> 00:31:23,767
We were basically
inside a firework
when it exploded.
560
00:31:23,767 --> 00:31:26,100
We had green and red cinders
flying past us.
561
00:31:27,867 --> 00:31:29,867
He was definitely
sending a message to us
562
00:31:29,867 --> 00:31:33,000
that he was aware of us
and was willing to hurt us
if he needed to.
563
00:31:34,667 --> 00:31:35,367
{\an8}[officer speaking over radio]
564
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:38,667
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
565
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,367
{\an8}[officer speaking over radio]
566
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:59,266
[Sgt. Manser] You have to
focus on the suspect
and his actions,
567
00:31:59,266 --> 00:32:01,100
while you're still trying
to get those neighbors out.
568
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:05,800
[rustling]
569
00:32:15,667 --> 00:32:16,367
[beeping over phone]
570
00:32:17,166 --> 00:32:17,900
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
571
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:20,266
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
572
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,100
{\an8}[beeping continues]
573
00:32:30,367 --> 00:32:31,066
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
574
00:32:33,467 --> 00:32:34,166
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
575
00:32:36,266 --> 00:32:37,200
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
576
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,567
{\an8}-[beeping continues]
-[static over phone]
577
00:32:42,066 --> 00:32:43,166
{\an8}[small explosion]
578
00:32:43,166 --> 00:32:44,967
-[clicking]
-[beeping continues]
579
00:32:45,967 --> 00:32:46,600
{\an8}[Jason speaking]
580
00:32:50,166 --> 00:32:51,433
[phone clicks]
581
00:32:52,166 --> 00:32:55,867
My conversation
with our suspect
lasted for 31 minutes.
582
00:32:55,867 --> 00:32:59,900
There were
some explosions that we heard,
and the telephone call ended.
583
00:32:59,967 --> 00:33:03,100
So, hearing all that,
it was a scary situation.
584
00:33:04,367 --> 00:33:05,767
{\an8}[officer speaking]
585
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:08,767
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
586
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:16,166
{\an8}[officer] Over here?
587
00:33:16,767 --> 00:33:16,858
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
588
00:33:16,858 --> 00:33:17,000
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
589
00:33:19,066 --> 00:33:20,700
[explosion]
590
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,000
When that bang went off,
we were concerned,
so we started to retreat.
591
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,266
We knew he had firearms,
so that's always
a probability there,
592
00:33:30,266 --> 00:33:33,166
that he could spot us,
he could see us
and shoot at us,
593
00:33:33,166 --> 00:33:34,834
or shoot in our direction.
594
00:33:34,834 --> 00:33:37,166
[Lt. Weidman] I was
in the front, the north
portion of the house,
595
00:33:37,166 --> 00:33:39,100
so I could see the windows
in the front.
596
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:40,967
And when they were
exploding inside,
597
00:33:40,967 --> 00:33:43,467
it looked like
a complete flash of light.
598
00:33:43,467 --> 00:33:46,467
So I knew that there were
definitely strong fireworks
going off.
599
00:33:46,467 --> 00:33:46,858
Knowing that he was
willing to escalate things,
600
00:33:46,858 --> 00:33:47,000
Knowing that he was
willing to escalate things,
601
00:33:48,367 --> 00:33:51,100
to blow off explosives
inside the house,
602
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:54,367
we weren't sure if his kids
were really a priority to him
at that point, or not.
603
00:33:55,266 --> 00:33:55,967
[knocking]
604
00:33:56,467 --> 00:33:57,467
{\an8}[officer speaking]
605
00:33:57,467 --> 00:33:58,166
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser whispering]
606
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:00,767
{\an8}[officer] Watch it.
607
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:03,767
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
608
00:34:04,667 --> 00:34:05,467
{\an8}[female officer speaking]
609
00:34:05,467 --> 00:34:06,333
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser] All right.
610
00:34:08,667 --> 00:34:09,567
{\an8}[female officer
speaking inaudibly]
611
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:14,100
{\an8}-[girl crying]
-[Sgt. Manser speaking]
612
00:34:25,867 --> 00:34:26,867
{\an8}[girl speaking]
613
00:34:27,867 --> 00:34:28,867
{\an8}-[Sgt. Manser] Oh, jeez.
-[officer speaking]
614
00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:32,000
{\an8}[girl screaming]
615
00:34:34,567 --> 00:34:35,266
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser] Oh, dear God.
616
00:34:35,967 --> 00:34:36,600
{\an8}[officer speaking]
617
00:34:38,467 --> 00:34:39,100
{\an8}[girl crying]
618
00:34:40,100 --> 00:34:41,800
{\an8}[coughing]
619
00:34:45,467 --> 00:34:46,166
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
620
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:47,667
{\an8}[officer speaking]
621
00:34:48,266 --> 00:34:49,000
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
622
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,266
{\an8}-What?
-[officer speaking]
623
00:35:01,867 --> 00:35:02,500
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
624
00:35:08,767 --> 00:35:09,700
{\an8}[officer speaking]
625
00:35:16,266 --> 00:35:16,858
[Sgt. Manser]
We're being loud now,
626
00:35:16,858 --> 00:35:17,000
[Sgt. Manser]
We're being loud now,
627
00:35:17,266 --> 00:35:18,867
our tactical advantage
is gone.
628
00:35:18,867 --> 00:35:21,500
We're openly talking
to the daughter.
629
00:35:25,166 --> 00:35:25,800
{\an8}[officer speaking]
630
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:28,266
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
631
00:35:29,667 --> 00:35:30,367
{\an8}[officer speaking]
632
00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:35,200
[girl crying distantly]
633
00:35:36,266 --> 00:35:37,767
{\an8}[officer speaking]
634
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,367
{\an8}[female officer] Okay.
635
00:35:40,367 --> 00:35:41,066
{\an8}[officer speaking]
636
00:35:44,867 --> 00:35:45,934
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
637
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,467
{\an8}-[officer] Or, honey...
-[Sgt. Manser speaking]
638
00:35:52,467 --> 00:35:54,100
{\an8}[officer] ...if you scoot
to your left,
I can catch you.
639
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,100
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
640
00:36:01,767 --> 00:36:03,500
{\an8}[girl speaking]
641
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:16,858
[Sgt. Manser] I was right by
one of the neighbor's
apartment complexes.
642
00:36:16,858 --> 00:36:17,000
[Sgt. Manser] I was right by
one of the neighbor's
apartment complexes.
643
00:36:18,667 --> 00:36:21,967
The door was open.
I went in, to get a ladder.
644
00:36:21,967 --> 00:36:24,367
That would have been the area
where somebody would have
kept a ladder.
645
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:28,266
{\an8}[officer speaking]
646
00:36:28,266 --> 00:36:29,000
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
647
00:36:30,266 --> 00:36:31,900
[officer] Yep, good. Drop.
648
00:36:35,166 --> 00:36:38,166
[Sgt. Manser] She's gonna
have to climb out
of a third story window,
649
00:36:38,166 --> 00:36:40,767
hang from a gutter
and dangle herself to drop
650
00:36:40,767 --> 00:36:42,400
straight to the deck
below her.
651
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,033
{\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking]
652
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,300
{\an8}-[Lt. Weidman speaking]
-[Sgt. Cline speaking]
653
00:36:56,867 --> 00:36:58,600
{\an8}[police dispatch over radio]
109, do you have
a portable ladder?
654
00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:00,166
{\an8}[Sgt. Cline] Yep.
655
00:37:15,166 --> 00:37:15,303
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
656
00:37:15,303 --> 00:37:15,867
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
657
00:37:17,266 --> 00:37:18,867
{\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking]
658
00:37:18,867 --> 00:37:20,166
{\an8}-[Lt. Weidman speaking]
-[Sgt. Cline speaking]
659
00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:23,100
Yep, come on.
660
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,367
[Sgt. Manser speaking]
It was pretty harrowing
to watch.
661
00:37:36,367 --> 00:37:41,000
She got on the deck,
jumped down into
Sgt. Cline's arms,
662
00:37:41,066 --> 00:37:43,900
and he ran down and took her
to an awaiting ambulance.
663
00:37:45,467 --> 00:37:46,000
[Lt. Weidman]
I went over there
to help Sgt. Cline
664
00:37:47,066 --> 00:37:48,333
get her off the balcony.
665
00:37:48,367 --> 00:37:51,900
So, that was a great feeling,
seeing her get into our arms.
666
00:37:53,867 --> 00:37:54,567
{\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking]
667
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,367
[girl's response bleeped out]
668
00:37:56,367 --> 00:37:57,100
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
669
00:38:00,867 --> 00:38:01,567
{\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking]
670
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:03,767
{\an8}[girl speaking]
671
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:05,667
{\an8}[Sgt. Cline] All right.
672
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:08,166
{\an8}[girl mumbles inaudibly]
673
00:38:08,166 --> 00:38:08,867
{\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking]
674
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:10,467
{\an8}[girl screaming]
675
00:38:15,166 --> 00:38:15,303
{\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking]
676
00:38:15,303 --> 00:38:16,000
{\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking]
677
00:38:16,867 --> 00:38:17,767
{\an8}-[girl speaking]
-[Sgt. Cline speaking]
678
00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:19,367
{\an8}[girl speaking]
679
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:20,667
{\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking]
680
00:38:24,667 --> 00:38:25,467
{\an8}[girl gasping]
681
00:38:25,467 --> 00:38:26,567
{\an8}-[Sgt. Cline] Huh?
-[girl continues]
682
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,100
{\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking]
683
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:30,100
{\an8}-[girl] Yeah.
-[Sgt. Cline speaking]
684
00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:33,300
{\an8}[girl speaking]
685
00:38:33,367 --> 00:38:34,533
{\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking]
686
00:38:47,767 --> 00:38:51,066
[Sgt. Manser] That was
an extremely tense moment.
687
00:38:51,066 --> 00:38:52,400
We knew she was inside,
688
00:38:52,467 --> 00:38:55,266
we knew she needed help
and we needed to react.
689
00:38:57,967 --> 00:38:59,000
Let's go.
690
00:39:07,266 --> 00:39:09,667
When I looked through
the basement door,
691
00:39:09,667 --> 00:39:15,303
uh, the whole ceiling
was coated in, uh,
red and orange flames.
692
00:39:15,303 --> 00:39:15,800
uh, the whole ceiling
was coated in, uh,
red and orange flames.
693
00:39:15,867 --> 00:39:16,000
Uh, the smoke was billowing
out of the house,
uh, much more faster now.
694
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,266
So you had the, the smell
of the smoke in the air,
695
00:39:23,266 --> 00:39:25,867
you could hear
the fire cracking,
the fire popping.
696
00:39:25,867 --> 00:39:29,467
It was definitely something
where you knew
you needed to react,
697
00:39:29,467 --> 00:39:32,166
and we, we needed
to do something now.
698
00:39:32,166 --> 00:39:33,266
[officer] Hey, you guys
got the shield?
699
00:39:33,266 --> 00:39:34,567
[Sgt. Manser] 1-4-1,
bring that shield around here.
700
00:39:34,567 --> 00:39:35,667
[officer] Okay.
701
00:39:35,667 --> 00:39:36,967
We needed to breach that door.
702
00:39:38,867 --> 00:39:39,600
[indistinct police
radio chatter]
703
00:39:40,867 --> 00:39:41,500
{\an8}[officer speaking]
704
00:39:46,700 --> 00:39:47,367
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
705
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:51,333
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
706
00:39:54,266 --> 00:39:57,967
The smoke is a wall.
It hits you right in the face.
707
00:39:57,967 --> 00:40:00,100
[Lt. Weidman]
As soon as that door opened,
my first feeling was
708
00:40:00,166 --> 00:40:01,667
that there's no way
she's alive.
709
00:40:01,667 --> 00:40:04,467
There's no way anybody,
especially a little girl
710
00:40:04,467 --> 00:40:07,300
could live through the smoke,
the heat, the flames.
711
00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:09,767
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
712
00:40:13,567 --> 00:40:14,500
Hang on, one sec.
713
00:40:23,266 --> 00:40:23,967
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
714
00:40:23,967 --> 00:40:25,000
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking]
715
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:25,667
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
716
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:34,266
{\an8}[female officer speaking]
717
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:36,667
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking]
718
00:40:37,667 --> 00:40:38,767
{\an8}[girl speaking]
719
00:40:39,867 --> 00:40:41,367
[Sgt. Manser in muffled voice]
Good job, good job.
720
00:40:42,967 --> 00:40:45,303
She was on the floor,
on all fours,
crawling towards me.
721
00:40:45,303 --> 00:40:45,767
She was on the floor,
on all fours,
crawling towards me.
722
00:40:45,767 --> 00:40:46,000
It was just
an overwhelming sense
that she was okay,
723
00:40:49,467 --> 00:40:51,767
and that we were
gonna be able to save her.
724
00:40:51,767 --> 00:40:53,700
One of the best moments
in, in my career.
725
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,000
There was no more contact
with the suspect.
726
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,667
We had no more dealings,
no more contact at all.
727
00:41:01,467 --> 00:41:02,767
We couldn't rush in there,
728
00:41:02,767 --> 00:41:05,500
under the seriousness
of what was going on
with the fire.
729
00:41:05,567 --> 00:41:07,166
We couldn't risk our safety.
730
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:11,667
[narrator] Firefighters
work for hours
to extinguish the blaze.
731
00:41:13,367 --> 00:41:15,303
Police find Jason Tyo
dead in a back room
on the second floor.
732
00:41:15,303 --> 00:41:16,000
Police find Jason Tyo
dead in a back room
on the second floor.
733
00:41:19,667 --> 00:41:24,467
He died
from the effects of the fire,
including smoke inhalation.
734
00:41:24,467 --> 00:41:27,166
His death was recorded
as an accident.
735
00:41:28,567 --> 00:41:30,667
It's hard for me
to try to figure out
what his motives were.
736
00:41:31,867 --> 00:41:33,967
A lot of the times,
we end up dealing with people
737
00:41:33,967 --> 00:41:36,166
that are in some
kind of crisis.
738
00:41:36,166 --> 00:41:37,667
It's so unpredictable.
739
00:41:39,667 --> 00:41:43,100
{\an8}[narrator]
Both girls are treated
by EMS at the scene,
740
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:45,300
{\an8}and released without injury.
741
00:41:45,367 --> 00:41:46,000
{\an8}[Lt. Weidman]
To find out that they
were not injured at all,
742
00:41:47,166 --> 00:41:50,100
{\an8}it wasn't smoke inhalation,
it wasn't physical burns,
743
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:53,066
{\an8}that was the best news
that I heard all night.
744
00:41:53,066 --> 00:41:55,367
{\an8}[Sgt. Manser]
There's definitely
an adrenaline dump.
745
00:41:55,367 --> 00:41:58,166
{\an8}I felt a feeling that
I've never felt before,
746
00:41:58,166 --> 00:42:00,767
{\an8}in, in 22 years
of law enforcement.
747
00:42:00,767 --> 00:42:03,567
{\an8}It was a pretty
overwhelming sense that
748
00:42:03,567 --> 00:42:04,800
{\an8}those kids were gonna be safe.