1 00:00:09,100 --> 00:00:10,400 [narrator] In New Mexico, 2 00:00:10,467 --> 00:00:14,000 a shootout with a lone gunman puts Albuquerque's finest 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,800 directly in the firing line. 4 00:00:16,667 --> 00:00:17,900 [Officer Eichel] I felt the pain. 5 00:00:17,967 --> 00:00:22,867 And I looked to see my arm was bleeding profusely. 6 00:00:22,867 --> 00:00:24,266 [muffled gunfire] 7 00:00:26,500 --> 00:00:27,266 {\an8}[Officer Gunderson speaking] 8 00:00:28,700 --> 00:00:30,000 {\an8}[officer] Two, two. 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,166 {\an8}[officer] Two, two. 10 00:00:30,166 --> 00:00:31,000 {\an8}[narrator] And in Ohio, officers race against the clock 11 00:00:32,767 --> 00:00:34,567 {\an8}to save two young hostages. 12 00:00:34,567 --> 00:00:35,266 {\an8}[man speaking] 13 00:00:37,266 --> 00:00:38,467 {\an8}[knocking at door] 14 00:00:42,266 --> 00:00:45,700 [Lt. Weidman] He was in a high stress situation. 15 00:00:45,767 --> 00:00:48,467 And I could tell that he was willing to risk everything, 16 00:00:48,467 --> 00:00:50,467 and that combination is scary. 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,200 [explosion] 18 00:01:04,367 --> 00:01:08,500 [narrator] In the high desert of New Mexico, is the city of Albuquerque. 19 00:01:10,867 --> 00:01:13,166 [Sgt. Kenny] It is, by far, the largest city in New Mexico. 20 00:01:14,500 --> 00:01:16,767 {\an8}We have a horrendous crime problem. 21 00:01:18,066 --> 00:01:19,400 {\an8}It is the Wild West. 22 00:01:24,900 --> 00:01:25,567 {\an8}[police dispatch speaking] 23 00:01:28,567 --> 00:01:30,000 {\an8}[teen1 speaking] 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:30,266 {\an8}[teen1 speaking] 25 00:01:30,266 --> 00:01:31,000 {\an8}[police dispatch speaking] 26 00:01:33,667 --> 00:01:34,367 {\an8}[teen1 speaking] 27 00:01:34,367 --> 00:01:35,100 {\an8}[teen2 speaking] 28 00:01:38,667 --> 00:01:39,400 {\an8}[police dispatch speaking] 29 00:01:40,967 --> 00:01:41,900 {\an8}[teen2 speaking] 30 00:01:41,967 --> 00:01:42,600 {\an8}[teen1 speaking] 31 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,266 {\an8}[police dispatch speaking] 32 00:01:48,767 --> 00:01:49,467 {\an8}[teen2 speaking] 33 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:53,266 {\an8}[police dispatch speaking] 34 00:01:55,300 --> 00:01:56,000 {\an8}[teen2 speaking] 35 00:01:56,867 --> 00:01:58,233 {\an8}[police dispatch speaking] 36 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,100 {\an8}[police dispatch] Albuquerque police, operator 44-60. 37 00:02:05,100 --> 00:02:06,900 {\an8}Yes, go ahead. 38 00:02:06,967 --> 00:02:12,300 {\an8}The call that was dispatched was indicating that a high school teenager 39 00:02:12,367 --> 00:02:15,400 had been robbed at gunpoint. 40 00:02:15,467 --> 00:02:19,667 And I can hear that only one officer was gonna be able to go. 41 00:02:19,667 --> 00:02:24,000 Officer Mario Verbeck announced that he was available, 42 00:02:24,066 --> 00:02:26,967 and he would try and meet with the victim. 43 00:02:26,967 --> 00:02:30,000 And I messaged the dispatcher and let her know I would also be en route. 44 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:30,266 And I messaged the dispatcher and let her know I would also be en route. 45 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,567 -[car door closes] -[Officer Eichel] I could hear 46 00:02:36,567 --> 00:02:37,567 on the radio, 47 00:02:37,567 --> 00:02:40,166 Officer Verbeck was able to find the victim. 48 00:02:42,100 --> 00:02:42,767 {\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking] 49 00:02:44,867 --> 00:02:45,500 {\an8}[teen2 speaking] 50 00:02:55,900 --> 00:02:57,066 {\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking] 51 00:02:57,066 --> 00:02:57,767 {\an8}[teen2 speaking] 52 00:02:59,667 --> 00:03:00,000 {\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking] 53 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,000 {\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking] 54 00:03:01,467 --> 00:03:02,166 [teen2] Uh... 55 00:03:12,367 --> 00:03:13,767 {\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking] 56 00:03:14,166 --> 00:03:14,867 {\an8}[teen2 speaking] 57 00:03:24,300 --> 00:03:25,400 {\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking] 58 00:03:27,667 --> 00:03:30,000 {\an8}Officer Verbeck was able to give me a pretty clear 59 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:30,367 {\an8}Officer Verbeck was able to give me a pretty clear 60 00:03:30,367 --> 00:03:31,000 {\an8}identifying clothing description. 61 00:03:33,567 --> 00:03:34,266 {\an8}[teen2 speaking] 62 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,200 {\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking] 63 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,100 [Officer Eichel] The victim who was standing beside Officer Verbeck 64 00:03:45,166 --> 00:03:47,100 pointed out the alleged suspects. 65 00:03:47,166 --> 00:03:49,100 And they were right across the street from him. 66 00:03:50,500 --> 00:03:52,166 {\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking] 67 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,667 [Officer Eichel] Officer Verbeck gets on the radio, 68 00:04:01,300 --> 00:04:04,500 and I can hear his voice change slightly. 69 00:04:04,567 --> 00:04:06,867 It was more pressured. 70 00:04:08,300 --> 00:04:10,967 As I turn the corner, I can see Officer Verbeck point 71 00:04:10,967 --> 00:04:13,066 to two males walking into an alley. 72 00:04:13,767 --> 00:04:14,467 {\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking] 73 00:04:16,700 --> 00:04:17,800 {\an8}[Officer Eichel speaking] 74 00:04:17,867 --> 00:04:18,967 {\an8}[police radio chatter] 75 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,100 [Officer Eichel] They entered into an alleyway. 76 00:04:22,100 --> 00:04:26,467 It was full of weeds and debris that had been dumped there. 77 00:04:26,467 --> 00:04:29,467 So I quickly lost sight of them. 78 00:04:29,467 --> 00:04:30,000 These people were potentially armed with a gun. 79 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,000 These people were potentially armed with a gun. 80 00:04:32,867 --> 00:04:36,567 The danger level is extremely high now. 81 00:04:45,667 --> 00:04:47,367 [Officer Eichel] Police! [shouts indistinctly] 82 00:04:49,467 --> 00:04:50,166 [gun fires] 83 00:04:51,367 --> 00:04:52,000 [gun firing continues] 84 00:04:56,867 --> 00:04:57,533 [exclaims in pain] 85 00:05:01,567 --> 00:05:02,367 [Officer Eichel] Shots fired. 86 00:05:03,667 --> 00:05:04,300 [grunts] 87 00:05:08,867 --> 00:05:09,567 {\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking] 88 00:05:10,467 --> 00:05:11,433 [groans] 89 00:05:11,467 --> 00:05:13,467 Officer Verbeck was laying on the ground, 90 00:05:13,467 --> 00:05:15,266 and he let me know he had been shot. 91 00:05:19,667 --> 00:05:23,567 When this happened, I was just slightly ahead of Officer Verbeck. 92 00:05:24,900 --> 00:05:26,467 [Officer Eichel] Police! Stop! 93 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,266 Stop! 94 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,000 [gun firing] 95 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:30,100 [gun firing] 96 00:05:33,467 --> 00:05:34,767 [groans] 97 00:05:35,667 --> 00:05:37,166 -[gun fires] -[man yells] 98 00:05:38,567 --> 00:05:39,967 [Officer Eichel] I felt the pain. 99 00:05:39,967 --> 00:05:45,000 And I looked to see my arm was bleeding profusely. 100 00:05:45,066 --> 00:05:46,266 [police dispatch indistinct] 101 00:05:46,700 --> 00:05:48,467 [gun firing] 102 00:05:49,166 --> 00:05:50,467 [gasps] 103 00:05:50,467 --> 00:05:51,433 [Officer Eichel] And it was then that I realized 104 00:05:51,433 --> 00:05:52,867 I didn't have any more ammunition. 105 00:05:53,667 --> 00:05:55,567 I felt that fear. 106 00:05:56,667 --> 00:05:58,767 I didn't have anything to defend myself anymore. 107 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,000 [gun firing] 108 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:00,667 [gun firing] 109 00:06:00,667 --> 00:06:01,000 I had dropped my radio so I couldn't call out. 110 00:06:04,467 --> 00:06:05,967 Let's go. Move, come on. 111 00:06:05,967 --> 00:06:06,700 I got hit. 112 00:06:06,767 --> 00:06:08,500 As soon as I turned around, 113 00:06:08,567 --> 00:06:11,266 I remembered that Officer Verbeck was with me. 114 00:06:12,266 --> 00:06:14,367 He was also shot. 115 00:06:14,367 --> 00:06:16,667 I... I looked at him and I was ready to... 116 00:06:17,767 --> 00:06:19,166 move him. 117 00:06:19,166 --> 00:06:21,667 But everything was already turning, uh, black and white, 118 00:06:21,667 --> 00:06:23,467 like a gray scale image for me. 119 00:06:24,100 --> 00:06:26,467 [gasps, groans] 120 00:06:28,066 --> 00:06:30,000 And I knew that if I tried to lift him, 121 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:30,300 And I knew that if I tried to lift him, 122 00:06:30,367 --> 00:06:31,000 I was just gonna pass out, and we were both gonna be stuck there. 123 00:06:37,266 --> 00:06:39,667 I turned around and I ran towards my police car, 124 00:06:39,667 --> 00:06:42,567 and I saw Jacquelin Hernandez parking behind it. 125 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:44,567 She's a PSA, 126 00:06:44,567 --> 00:06:45,800 a police service aide. 127 00:06:46,667 --> 00:06:47,300 {\an8}[Officer Eichel speaking] 128 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,000 [grunts] Argh! 129 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:56,667 {\an8}[Officer Eichel speaking] 130 00:06:58,567 --> 00:07:00,000 [gasping] 131 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:00,500 [gasping] 132 00:07:01,100 --> 00:07:03,767 [groaning] 133 00:07:07,867 --> 00:07:09,166 {\an8}[Officer Eichel speaking] 134 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,500 Mario was knocked down on the ground. He's been hit twice. 135 00:07:25,567 --> 00:07:28,000 I can't imagine the amount of pain he is in. 136 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:30,000 [Officer Eichel] I wish that I had 137 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,000 [Officer Eichel] I wish that I had 138 00:07:33,166 --> 00:07:35,166 the ability in that moment, 139 00:07:35,166 --> 00:07:37,567 to lift him and take him with me, away. 140 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,467 {\an8}I did hear, "Officer down" several times, 141 00:07:43,467 --> 00:07:47,667 {\an8}which is a sickening feeling, 'cause you don't know how bad they are. 142 00:07:47,667 --> 00:07:50,100 You can hear in their voices that it's not good. 143 00:07:54,767 --> 00:07:57,100 [Sgt. Kenny] As I'm driving down the road, 144 00:07:57,166 --> 00:08:00,000 I hear, just a ton of gunshots. 145 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:00,567 I hear, just a ton of gunshots. 146 00:08:00,567 --> 00:08:01,000 I can't tell you how many, but it was a lot. 147 00:08:03,567 --> 00:08:05,266 [engine revving] 148 00:08:05,266 --> 00:08:06,767 As I came around the corner, 149 00:08:06,767 --> 00:08:09,667 I saw, what I think is the second suspect, 150 00:08:09,667 --> 00:08:12,367 exit the alley and run away from me. 151 00:08:12,367 --> 00:08:16,066 I could see his hands were clear he didn't have a gun in them. 152 00:08:16,066 --> 00:08:19,367 And I could still hear the gunfire to my north, 153 00:08:19,367 --> 00:08:21,567 indicating that to me he wasn't the threat. 154 00:08:21,567 --> 00:08:23,567 The threat was still to my right, or north. 155 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,567 [police sirens blaring] 156 00:08:27,567 --> 00:08:30,000 Officer Gunderson has pulled up ahead of me. 157 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:30,367 Officer Gunderson has pulled up ahead of me. 158 00:08:36,467 --> 00:08:39,100 I exited my vehicle, went to the concrete wall for cover. 159 00:08:39,767 --> 00:08:40,800 [police radio beeps] 160 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,600 Looking, I see a person's head pop up. 161 00:08:47,667 --> 00:08:50,367 I immediately realize this is our guy. 162 00:08:50,367 --> 00:08:54,767 And he was kind of creeping through the back parking lot. 163 00:08:56,667 --> 00:08:57,500 {\an8}[Officer Gunderson speaking] 164 00:08:57,567 --> 00:08:59,266 {\an8}[gun firing] 165 00:09:10,100 --> 00:09:12,367 [Sgt. Kenny] When he came around the corner and ran into Harry and I, 166 00:09:12,367 --> 00:09:14,567 I don't think he was prepared for us. 167 00:09:14,567 --> 00:09:18,300 And so he basically stood still in the middle of the parking lot, 168 00:09:18,367 --> 00:09:21,900 and his tactics, I think, were to put as much 169 00:09:21,967 --> 00:09:24,767 ammunition down towards us as he possibly could. 170 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,667 [gun firing] 171 00:09:28,567 --> 00:09:29,700 [Officer Gunderson] There were cars there. 172 00:09:29,767 --> 00:09:30,000 Thank God, nobody was in the cars. 173 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,000 Thank God, nobody was in the cars. 174 00:09:31,900 --> 00:09:33,567 [gun clicks, fires] 175 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:37,467 {\an8}[Officer Gunderson speaking] 176 00:09:37,467 --> 00:09:38,533 [gun fires] 177 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,567 A round came through the passenger side, 178 00:09:52,700 --> 00:09:56,166 of my far edge windshield. 179 00:09:56,166 --> 00:09:59,900 And I immediately got hit in the eye with something. 180 00:09:59,967 --> 00:10:00,000 I thought it was glass, I wasn't sure what it was. 181 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,000 I thought it was glass, I wasn't sure what it was. 182 00:10:04,967 --> 00:10:05,967 -[gasps] -[man yells] 183 00:10:07,100 --> 00:10:09,467 So immediately, my eye went blurry. 184 00:10:09,467 --> 00:10:11,100 It started bleeding, it started watering. 185 00:10:11,166 --> 00:10:13,500 I couldn't really see at all 186 00:10:13,567 --> 00:10:14,900 out of my right eye. 187 00:10:14,967 --> 00:10:16,767 -[breathes heavily] -[police radio beeps] 188 00:10:18,166 --> 00:10:18,800 {\an8}[police dispatch speaking] 189 00:10:21,667 --> 00:10:22,300 {\an8}[man speaking] 190 00:10:30,567 --> 00:10:31,000 {\an8}[police dispatch speaking] 191 00:10:32,266 --> 00:10:34,166 {\an8}[woman gasps, speaking] 192 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:37,467 {\an8}[police dispatch speaking] 193 00:10:39,266 --> 00:10:39,967 {\an8}[woman speaking] 194 00:10:44,100 --> 00:10:45,634 [gunfire continues] 195 00:10:49,066 --> 00:10:51,467 [Sgt. Kenny] I went to the rear of Officer Gunderson's vehicle. 196 00:10:51,467 --> 00:10:53,700 I went to the ground, went prone. 197 00:10:53,767 --> 00:10:57,600 Um, my goal being basically to flank him and distract him. 198 00:10:57,667 --> 00:11:00,000 If he has two things to think about, he has to think about me, 199 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,000 If he has two things to think about, he has to think about me, 200 00:11:01,166 --> 00:11:02,867 he has to think about Officer Gunderson, 201 00:11:02,867 --> 00:11:04,500 and we're not close to each other, 202 00:11:04,567 --> 00:11:07,367 that gives us a much better chance of stopping him. 203 00:11:08,367 --> 00:11:09,300 [gun fires] 204 00:11:10,867 --> 00:11:12,767 [Officer Gunderson] He's still firing. 205 00:11:12,767 --> 00:11:15,600 And we know he's hit. We can see him bleeding. 206 00:11:16,467 --> 00:11:17,700 And he doesn't care. 207 00:11:17,767 --> 00:11:18,400 {\an8}[Officer Gunderson speaking] 208 00:11:20,667 --> 00:11:21,934 [gun fires] 209 00:11:21,934 --> 00:11:24,000 [Sgt. Kenny] And I hear Harry say, "He's reloading." 210 00:11:24,066 --> 00:11:25,266 And I'm perplexed. 211 00:11:25,266 --> 00:11:25,967 [cartridge clicks] 212 00:11:26,667 --> 00:11:28,266 Who are we dealing with? 213 00:11:28,266 --> 00:11:29,767 That he's fired this many rounds, 214 00:11:29,767 --> 00:11:30,000 and he's still reloading and he's still going. 215 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,000 and he's still reloading and he's still going. 216 00:11:31,967 --> 00:11:34,100 -[gun fires] -[police sirens blaring] 217 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,200 [narrator] Officer Verbeck is still down at the other end of the alley. 218 00:11:41,266 --> 00:11:46,500 The gunman continues to fire, so it's not yet safe for EMS to move in. 219 00:11:46,567 --> 00:11:50,500 {\an8}I'm angry, because I know I've got officers struck. 220 00:11:50,567 --> 00:11:52,367 {\an8}I don't know what their condition is. 221 00:11:52,367 --> 00:11:53,767 {\an8}I'm extremely concerned for them. 222 00:11:56,967 --> 00:11:59,400 {\an8}[gun firing] 223 00:11:59,467 --> 00:12:03,000 {\an8}He is still shooting. He was crouched down, just a little bit, 224 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,326 but made no effort to run towards any type of cover. 225 00:12:04,326 --> 00:12:05,000 but made no effort to run towards any type of cover. 226 00:12:07,266 --> 00:12:09,266 So I don't think he had any tactics. 227 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,166 [gun firing] 228 00:12:18,266 --> 00:12:20,166 -[gun fires] -[police sirens blaring] 229 00:12:21,266 --> 00:12:23,200 -[gunshots] -[man yells] 230 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,066 {\an8}[Sgt. Kenny speaking] 231 00:12:26,066 --> 00:12:27,700 {\an8}[Officer Gunderson speaking] 232 00:12:27,767 --> 00:12:30,567 He kind of started screaming. 233 00:12:30,567 --> 00:12:33,000 But with the shadows of the tree that he was under, 234 00:12:33,066 --> 00:12:34,326 the dark sweatshirt he had on, 235 00:12:34,326 --> 00:12:34,867 the dark sweatshirt he had on, 236 00:12:34,867 --> 00:12:35,000 we couldn't see where the gun was. 237 00:12:37,266 --> 00:12:40,166 [Sgt. Kenny] Several of our tactical guys, our SWAT guys, showed up. 238 00:12:40,767 --> 00:12:41,767 {\an8}[SWAT officer speaking] 239 00:12:41,767 --> 00:12:43,200 {\an8}[Officer Gunderson speaking] 240 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,100 [male officer on radio] You want me to start down north now? 241 00:12:48,166 --> 00:12:49,700 [female officer on radio] Does anyone have eyes on the perp yet? 242 00:12:50,867 --> 00:12:52,467 [officers speaking inaudibly] 243 00:12:52,467 --> 00:12:53,967 [police radio chatter] 244 00:12:53,967 --> 00:12:56,600 [Sgt. Kenny] He is clearly hit at least twice. 245 00:12:56,667 --> 00:12:58,567 You're relieved that it's over, 246 00:12:58,567 --> 00:13:01,567 but now you need to start taking stock of what's going on. 247 00:13:01,567 --> 00:13:04,326 I know I need rescue for him, but my main concern is, 248 00:13:04,326 --> 00:13:04,667 I know I need rescue for him, but my main concern is, 249 00:13:04,667 --> 00:13:05,000 is my two officers to the north. What's their status? 250 00:13:07,567 --> 00:13:08,767 [indistinct radio chatter] 251 00:13:12,467 --> 00:13:13,100 [exclaims in pain] 252 00:13:13,900 --> 00:13:15,200 [gun fires] 253 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:18,000 [Officer Eichel] Shots fired. 254 00:13:19,166 --> 00:13:20,433 [grunts] 255 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,767 [Officer Verbeck] I can hear the bullets whizzing, 256 00:13:38,667 --> 00:13:39,800 breaking through... 257 00:13:41,367 --> 00:13:42,567 the leaves. 258 00:13:48,500 --> 00:13:49,166 [exclaims in pain] 259 00:13:49,867 --> 00:13:51,066 I get shot. 260 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,367 My right arm just f... fell limp, 261 00:13:55,367 --> 00:13:56,967 and just... I couldn't feel anything. 262 00:13:57,767 --> 00:13:59,567 It... My... I dropped my gun. 263 00:14:00,567 --> 00:14:02,567 So, I reached down with my left hand... 264 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:03,700 [grunts] 265 00:14:05,467 --> 00:14:07,567 I was struck in my left arm. 266 00:14:08,467 --> 00:14:10,266 I just fell flat. 267 00:14:11,467 --> 00:14:12,266 {\an8}[speaking] 268 00:14:12,266 --> 00:14:13,000 {\an8}[Officer Eichel] Let's go, come on. 269 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:13,667 {\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking] 270 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:18,767 Um... 271 00:14:20,967 --> 00:14:22,867 [police radio chatter muffled] 272 00:14:22,867 --> 00:14:24,100 I did fall asleep. 273 00:14:25,166 --> 00:14:26,200 [gunshots] 274 00:14:27,166 --> 00:14:28,467 {\an8}[Johnny speaking] 275 00:14:37,367 --> 00:14:39,400 [Officer Verbeck] And I woke up, opened my eyes, 276 00:14:39,467 --> 00:14:45,700 and all I'd seen was a head on top of a CMU brick wall. 277 00:14:45,767 --> 00:14:48,667 That normal person, he lived off that area. 278 00:14:48,667 --> 00:14:50,767 He jumped that wall. 279 00:14:51,567 --> 00:14:52,200 {\an8}[Johnny speaking] 280 00:14:54,467 --> 00:14:55,400 {\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking] 281 00:14:56,500 --> 00:14:57,967 I just told him, "Get on my radio." 282 00:14:57,967 --> 00:14:59,900 I told him how to, where to press the buttons. 283 00:15:00,567 --> 00:15:01,266 {\an8}[Johnny speaking] 284 00:15:03,166 --> 00:15:03,800 {\an8}[Officer Verbeck speaking] 285 00:15:04,700 --> 00:15:05,000 {\an8}[Johnny speaking] 286 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:16,667 [indistinct police radio chatter] 287 00:15:20,667 --> 00:15:22,367 [indistinct police radio chatter] 288 00:15:22,367 --> 00:15:24,066 Put your hand up. 289 00:15:28,100 --> 00:15:32,100 [man over police radio] So we need fire to the 34... [continues indistinctly] 290 00:15:32,100 --> 00:15:33,300 [shouts] 291 00:15:37,500 --> 00:15:38,767 [man over police radio] We're in the parking lot... 292 00:15:45,367 --> 00:15:46,867 [breathing heavily] 293 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,467 -[police sirens blaring] -[police radio chatter] 294 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,066 I'm here. I'm gonna help you out. 295 00:15:54,066 --> 00:15:55,800 [indistinct radio chatter] 296 00:15:59,467 --> 00:16:02,500 [Officer Verbeck] He jumped the wall, knowing the risk 297 00:16:02,567 --> 00:16:04,326 of this guy, this perpetrator, 298 00:16:04,326 --> 00:16:05,000 of this guy, this perpetrator, 299 00:16:05,667 --> 00:16:07,767 just shooting wildly. 300 00:16:08,767 --> 00:16:11,400 But once he got me on my feet, 301 00:16:11,467 --> 00:16:14,300 and he got me gathered, and we walked out... 302 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,200 I was just thankful for him, 303 00:16:18,266 --> 00:16:22,166 for having the courage to come help me, 304 00:16:22,166 --> 00:16:24,867 an officer in need, an officer that was down. 305 00:16:24,867 --> 00:16:27,667 Because, if not, I would have been 306 00:16:27,667 --> 00:16:30,266 just laid there, and I don't know what would have happened. 307 00:16:30,266 --> 00:16:31,166 [indistinct police radio chatter] 308 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,200 [Officer Eichel] You know, 309 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:34,326 {\an8}you watch TV, and the way it's portrayed is 310 00:16:34,326 --> 00:16:35,000 {\an8}you watch TV, and the way it's portrayed is 311 00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:38,900 {\an8}people think of all their memories. 312 00:16:39,567 --> 00:16:40,900 And I was the opposite. 313 00:16:40,967 --> 00:16:41,967 [groans in pain] 314 00:16:41,967 --> 00:16:43,333 [man] Don't worry about it. 315 00:16:48,166 --> 00:16:52,100 [Officer Eichel] What I did think about was what I would miss, 316 00:16:52,166 --> 00:16:53,400 if I died. 317 00:16:53,467 --> 00:16:54,967 -[groaning] -Don't worry about it. 318 00:16:54,967 --> 00:16:57,100 [Officer Eichel] If it pierced my heart, 319 00:16:57,166 --> 00:17:00,367 then I was gonna miss a lot of important days. 320 00:17:00,367 --> 00:17:01,734 You're doing good. 321 00:17:03,667 --> 00:17:04,326 [Sgt. Kenny] Officer Jones walks up to me and he goes, 322 00:17:04,326 --> 00:17:05,000 [Sgt. Kenny] Officer Jones walks up to me and he goes, 323 00:17:05,166 --> 00:17:06,200 "Hey, are you okay? Are you hit?" 324 00:17:06,266 --> 00:17:07,567 And I'm like, "No, I'm not hit." 325 00:17:07,567 --> 00:17:09,400 So, he starts checking over me. 326 00:17:09,467 --> 00:17:11,700 He looks and he points at the middle of my chest, 327 00:17:11,767 --> 00:17:13,367 and he goes, "Is this hole new?" 328 00:17:13,367 --> 00:17:14,867 And I'm... What hole? 329 00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:18,000 So, I look down and there's a little hole in my plate vest. 330 00:17:18,066 --> 00:17:21,467 And I keep a notebook, um, right in the front of my vest. 331 00:17:21,467 --> 00:17:23,767 He pulls the notebook out and there's a bullet hole in it. 332 00:17:23,767 --> 00:17:25,967 And so, it's pretty clear that, 333 00:17:25,967 --> 00:17:28,767 yes, I was, in fact, shot in my, in my chest. 334 00:17:29,767 --> 00:17:30,467 {\an8}[woman speaking] 335 00:17:30,467 --> 00:17:31,367 {\an8}[Officer Gunderson speaking] 336 00:17:31,367 --> 00:17:32,533 {\an8}[woman speaking] 337 00:17:33,567 --> 00:17:34,326 [Officer Gunderson] I did have surgery that night. 338 00:17:34,326 --> 00:17:35,000 [Officer Gunderson] I did have surgery that night. 339 00:17:35,367 --> 00:17:37,500 Uh, they removed the... [sighs] 340 00:17:37,567 --> 00:17:42,200 ...shrapnel and put, I believe, seven stitches in my eye. 341 00:17:42,266 --> 00:17:44,200 I'm 100% recovered from that. 342 00:17:46,767 --> 00:17:49,100 [narrator] The shooter is James Ramirez, 343 00:17:49,166 --> 00:17:53,367 a 27-year-old, with a previous conviction of first degree burglary. 344 00:17:55,667 --> 00:17:57,400 He came from California to New Mexico. 345 00:17:57,467 --> 00:17:59,200 He'd only been here a couple of days. 346 00:17:59,266 --> 00:18:02,667 And he had enough money to buy the gun and buy the ammo. 347 00:18:02,667 --> 00:18:04,326 But yet, he's out, using that to jack kids for their backpacks. 348 00:18:04,326 --> 00:18:05,000 But yet, he's out, using that to jack kids for their backpacks. 349 00:18:09,066 --> 00:18:11,467 [Officer Gunderson] The fact that he's willing to shoot 350 00:18:11,467 --> 00:18:14,767 four police officers? [exhales in huff] For what? 351 00:18:14,767 --> 00:18:16,467 For a video game? 352 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,400 [narrator] In February, 2022, James Ramirez dies in custody, 353 00:18:22,467 --> 00:18:24,500 while awaiting federal charges. 354 00:18:28,367 --> 00:18:31,000 That is my reminder. 355 00:18:33,100 --> 00:18:34,200 And, uh... 356 00:18:35,700 --> 00:18:37,667 looking at it, 357 00:18:37,667 --> 00:18:40,667 I'm... I'm grateful that that's all I ended up with. 358 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,266 [police sirens blare distantly] 359 00:18:44,266 --> 00:18:47,266 The command staff of our police department 360 00:18:47,266 --> 00:18:49,567 asked if they could escort me home. 361 00:18:51,367 --> 00:18:53,867 My kids were able to sit in the police cars, 362 00:18:53,867 --> 00:18:56,100 and we were able to make lots of noise with sirens, 363 00:18:57,367 --> 00:18:59,066 and drive home together. 364 00:19:03,567 --> 00:19:04,326 [Officer Verbeck] The first person I see once I started waking up, 365 00:19:04,326 --> 00:19:05,000 [Officer Verbeck] The first person I see once I started waking up, 366 00:19:08,266 --> 00:19:09,467 is my wife, 367 00:19:10,300 --> 00:19:12,066 telling me that she loved me. 368 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,000 [gasps] 369 00:19:18,467 --> 00:19:20,700 The doctor was telling me I was shot in the chest 370 00:19:20,767 --> 00:19:24,300 just above the collar line of my vest. 371 00:19:24,367 --> 00:19:28,900 And it was just right below the trachea area, here, 372 00:19:28,967 --> 00:19:33,166 and then in the backside of my... my tricep. 373 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,867 He told me that 374 00:19:36,867 --> 00:19:38,867 I was a miracle to be here. 375 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,567 My wife and I renewed our vows, 376 00:19:47,567 --> 00:19:49,367 to celebrate our 30th anniversary 377 00:19:49,367 --> 00:19:50,867 that we never got to celebrate, 378 00:19:50,867 --> 00:19:53,266 because I was in the hospital. 379 00:19:54,767 --> 00:19:56,667 Johnny Garcia was my best man. 380 00:20:05,867 --> 00:20:07,266 [all applauding] 381 00:20:15,166 --> 00:20:17,867 He saved my life and I owe him my life. 382 00:20:24,266 --> 00:20:25,567 [Officer Eichel] Mr. Garcia... 383 00:20:26,967 --> 00:20:29,567 took it upon himself to risk his own life, 384 00:20:29,567 --> 00:20:31,066 to jump into this, 385 00:20:31,066 --> 00:20:34,326 to get to the middle of where everything was taking place. 386 00:20:34,326 --> 00:20:35,000 to get to the middle of where everything was taking place. 387 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,567 Johnny Garcia is a hero. 388 00:20:39,567 --> 00:20:42,100 [St. Kenny] Johnny Garcia was honored by the mayor's office. 389 00:20:43,667 --> 00:20:46,567 I don't think there's a whole lot of Johnny Garcias on this planet, 390 00:20:46,567 --> 00:20:48,667 you know? I really don't. 391 00:20:48,667 --> 00:20:50,266 You know, especially... Look, let's be honest, 392 00:20:50,266 --> 00:20:51,767 um, law enforcement in this country 393 00:20:51,767 --> 00:20:55,367 has kind of been run through the wringer for the last few years. 394 00:20:55,367 --> 00:20:59,100 And, uh... [coughs] ...sometimes we feel alone. 395 00:20:59,100 --> 00:21:01,900 And the fact that he did what he did, shows that we're not. 396 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:10,800 [narrator] 49 miles south of Cleveland, Ohio, 397 00:21:11,767 --> 00:21:15,000 is Uniontown, in Stark County. 398 00:21:22,767 --> 00:21:24,867 [phone line ringing] 399 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:27,467 {\an8}[police dispatch speaking] 400 00:21:28,567 --> 00:21:29,200 {\an8}[woman speaking] 401 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:53,467 {\an8}[police dispatch speaking] 402 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,734 {\an8}[woman speaking] 403 00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:16,166 [narrator] Lt. Nathan Weideman responds to the call. 404 00:22:16,166 --> 00:22:17,800 [Lt. Weidman] As a lieutenant, here at the police department, 405 00:22:17,867 --> 00:22:21,367 I respond, 24 hours a day, to critical incidents. 406 00:22:21,367 --> 00:22:24,567 I'll come out and I'll be our incident commander. 407 00:22:24,567 --> 00:22:26,867 {\an8}They told me the address and the suspect's name, 408 00:22:26,867 --> 00:22:30,900 {\an8}and I instantly knew, from the history that we had, it wasn't gonna be good. 409 00:22:32,266 --> 00:22:35,300 We'd been responding to "shots fired" calls, 410 00:22:35,367 --> 00:22:38,026 "fireworks calls," for a period of two months, 411 00:22:38,026 --> 00:22:38,266 "fireworks calls," for a period of two months, 412 00:22:38,266 --> 00:22:39,000 and this was all related to our suspect. 413 00:22:40,867 --> 00:22:43,767 This person just got out on bail, this same day. 414 00:22:52,867 --> 00:22:53,567 [knocking at door] 415 00:22:55,867 --> 00:22:56,500 [dog barking distantly] 416 00:23:05,867 --> 00:23:06,567 [dog barks] 417 00:23:06,567 --> 00:23:07,266 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 418 00:23:11,767 --> 00:23:12,667 {\an8}[officer1 speaking] 419 00:23:14,867 --> 00:23:15,500 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 420 00:23:27,166 --> 00:23:27,800 {\an8}[officer1 speaking] 421 00:23:31,467 --> 00:23:32,100 {\an8}[officer1 speaking] 422 00:23:36,667 --> 00:23:37,900 You have a [bleep] night. 423 00:23:40,700 --> 00:23:41,867 {\an8}[officer2 speaking] 424 00:23:41,867 --> 00:23:43,166 {\an8}-[officer1 speaking] -[officer2] That truck? 425 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:44,667 {\an8}[officer1 speaking] 426 00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:46,367 {\an8}[officer2 speaking] 427 00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:53,033 {\an8}[officer1 speaking] 428 00:23:53,066 --> 00:23:54,000 {\an8}-[officer2 speaking] -[officer1 speaking] 429 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:54,667 {\an8}[officer2 speaking] 430 00:23:56,667 --> 00:23:57,367 {\an8}[officer1 speaking] 431 00:23:57,367 --> 00:23:58,100 {\an8}[officer2 speaking] 432 00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:05,567 {\an8}[officer1] Yeah. 433 00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:10,767 {\an8}[officer2 speaking] 434 00:24:10,767 --> 00:24:12,066 {\an8}[officer1 clears throat] Um-- 435 00:24:12,066 --> 00:24:12,767 {\an8}[officer 2 speaking] 436 00:24:16,300 --> 00:24:18,066 [officer1 chuckles softly] 437 00:24:18,066 --> 00:24:21,867 [Lt. Weidman] We obtained a warrant for the charges that we had at that time. 438 00:24:21,867 --> 00:24:25,166 He was incarcerated in jail for less than 24 hours, 439 00:24:25,166 --> 00:24:27,000 released on bond that day, 440 00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:31,367 and eight hours later, we were dispatched out to his house for this call. 441 00:24:31,367 --> 00:24:33,467 When I found out that there were children in the house, 442 00:24:33,467 --> 00:24:35,567 and the circumstances surrounding it, 443 00:24:35,567 --> 00:24:37,500 saying that there was gonna be explosions, 444 00:24:37,567 --> 00:24:38,026 there was gonna be loss of life, 445 00:24:38,026 --> 00:24:39,000 there was gonna be loss of life, 446 00:24:39,166 --> 00:24:42,767 as a father, as a person, it's absolutely terrifying. 447 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,600 [narrator] Lt. Weidman gets a chance 448 00:24:46,667 --> 00:24:48,767 to end the standoff right away. 449 00:24:51,767 --> 00:24:53,467 As I was talking to our officers, 450 00:24:53,467 --> 00:24:56,300 our dispatch said that they were on the phone with him. 451 00:24:56,367 --> 00:24:59,066 I asked for them to transfer him to my cellphone. 452 00:24:59,066 --> 00:25:01,900 As soon as my cellphone rang, I knew that it was him. 453 00:25:02,767 --> 00:25:03,667 It was go time. 454 00:25:05,367 --> 00:25:06,066 [phone ringing] 455 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:09,667 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 456 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:11,667 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 457 00:25:14,467 --> 00:25:15,100 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 458 00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:20,000 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 459 00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:24,767 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 460 00:25:27,166 --> 00:25:27,800 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 461 00:25:30,367 --> 00:25:31,000 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 462 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,266 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 463 00:25:35,867 --> 00:25:37,166 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 464 00:25:37,166 --> 00:25:38,000 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 465 00:25:42,567 --> 00:25:43,266 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 466 00:25:48,667 --> 00:25:49,367 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 467 00:25:51,967 --> 00:25:52,600 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 468 00:25:53,700 --> 00:25:54,834 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 469 00:25:56,867 --> 00:26:01,100 I could tell that he was in a high stress situation. 470 00:26:01,166 --> 00:26:03,800 And I could tell that he was willing to risk everything, 471 00:26:03,867 --> 00:26:05,767 and that combination is scary. 472 00:26:13,767 --> 00:26:14,400 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 473 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:17,667 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 474 00:26:18,367 --> 00:26:19,066 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 475 00:26:24,467 --> 00:26:25,166 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 476 00:26:28,867 --> 00:26:29,567 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 477 00:26:34,867 --> 00:26:35,567 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 478 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,026 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 479 00:26:38,026 --> 00:26:38,567 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 480 00:26:42,900 --> 00:26:45,266 [Lt. Weidman] I quickly understood that the girls were in there, 481 00:26:45,266 --> 00:26:48,567 and he wasn't willing to negotiate. He just wanted us gone. 482 00:26:48,567 --> 00:26:51,700 So my main priority was making sure that the girls were gonna be safe 483 00:26:51,767 --> 00:26:53,100 and then getting them out of the house. 484 00:26:55,767 --> 00:26:58,300 [Sgt. Manser] I received a call from our dispatch. 485 00:26:58,367 --> 00:27:00,266 They said that they had received a call 486 00:27:00,266 --> 00:27:02,000 from Uniontown Police Department, 487 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,200 had a situation in which they could need more backup. 488 00:27:05,266 --> 00:27:08,026 {\an8}And asked, uh, for any and all officers available to come assist. 489 00:27:08,026 --> 00:27:08,967 {\an8}And asked, uh, for any and all officers available to come assist. 490 00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:15,767 {\an8}[officer speaking] 491 00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:26,166 [police radio chatter] 492 00:27:26,166 --> 00:27:28,000 [Sgt. Manser] That perimeter is extremely important. 493 00:27:28,066 --> 00:27:30,467 If you are on one side of the house, 494 00:27:30,467 --> 00:27:34,567 there's three other sides that things could be going on, that you're unaware of. 495 00:27:34,567 --> 00:27:35,567 [police radio chatter] 496 00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:38,026 {\an8}-[officer speaking] -[Sgt. Manser speaking] 497 00:27:38,026 --> 00:27:38,266 {\an8}-[officer speaking] -[Sgt. Manser speaking] 498 00:27:38,266 --> 00:27:39,000 {\an8}[officer speaking] 499 00:27:39,066 --> 00:27:39,700 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 500 00:27:40,867 --> 00:27:41,667 {\an8}[officer speaking] 501 00:27:43,467 --> 00:27:44,667 {\an8}[bleep] 502 00:27:44,667 --> 00:27:45,567 {\an8}[officer speaking over radio] 503 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:48,367 [Sgt. Manser] You think the worst, 504 00:27:48,367 --> 00:27:51,467 it could be a firework, it could be a gunshot. 505 00:27:51,467 --> 00:27:53,867 The main focus and concern is to get up to that house, 506 00:27:53,867 --> 00:27:55,066 and see what's going on. 507 00:27:58,567 --> 00:28:01,266 I walked up and took cover behind a tree. 508 00:28:01,266 --> 00:28:03,166 We were looking over the whole unit. 509 00:28:03,166 --> 00:28:07,200 It was an apartment complex, there were several units attached to it. 510 00:28:07,266 --> 00:28:08,026 And the side we were on, 511 00:28:08,026 --> 00:28:08,967 And the side we were on, 512 00:28:08,967 --> 00:28:09,000 it was basically, a three story apartment complex. 513 00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:14,500 So, we had an upstairs bedroom, 514 00:28:14,567 --> 00:28:18,000 uh, middle floor patio, and a basement door. 515 00:28:20,166 --> 00:28:20,867 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman] Well, we can't-- 516 00:28:20,867 --> 00:28:21,567 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 517 00:28:26,367 --> 00:28:27,066 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 518 00:28:31,767 --> 00:28:32,400 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 519 00:28:39,667 --> 00:28:40,300 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 520 00:28:42,567 --> 00:28:44,400 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 521 00:28:55,266 --> 00:28:58,800 [Sgt. Manser] If you work a midnight shift, you use the cover of darkness well. 522 00:28:58,867 --> 00:29:01,066 {\an8}You do not wanna be seen by the suspect. 523 00:29:01,066 --> 00:29:03,000 {\an8}You wanna have that element of surprise. 524 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,767 {\an8}If he doesn't know where you are, 525 00:29:04,767 --> 00:29:06,300 {\an8}you definitely have a tactical advantage. 526 00:29:07,767 --> 00:29:08,467 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 527 00:29:11,166 --> 00:29:11,867 {\an8}[officer speaking] 528 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:13,667 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 529 00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:22,100 I got concerned. 530 00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:24,900 If he was at that door, he was clearly looking for us, 531 00:29:24,967 --> 00:29:27,467 or trying to make our location. 532 00:29:27,467 --> 00:29:29,800 That would have taken away that element of surprise, 533 00:29:29,867 --> 00:29:31,567 and it would have been extremely dangerous for us. 534 00:29:34,467 --> 00:29:37,266 [narrator] Lt. Weidman, again, tries to get the suspect 535 00:29:37,266 --> 00:29:39,700 to release the children he's holding hostage. 536 00:29:41,667 --> 00:29:42,300 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 537 00:29:43,867 --> 00:29:44,500 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 538 00:29:51,567 --> 00:29:52,266 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 539 00:29:52,266 --> 00:29:53,000 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 540 00:29:57,667 --> 00:29:58,367 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 541 00:30:04,367 --> 00:30:05,000 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 542 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,667 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 543 00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:10,867 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 544 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,100 [Lt. Weidman] The fireworks that our suspect has been using, 545 00:30:32,166 --> 00:30:33,800 they're commercial fireworks. 546 00:30:33,867 --> 00:30:36,667 {\an8}So we know that the explosives is enough to definitely do some damage. 547 00:30:38,567 --> 00:30:40,867 It was a tough situation. 548 00:30:40,867 --> 00:30:42,600 The dilemma that we had on this call, 549 00:30:42,667 --> 00:30:46,100 is that we wanted the girls out safely, we wanted him out safely, 550 00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:46,858 but then he would make the comments 551 00:30:46,858 --> 00:30:47,000 but then he would make the comments 552 00:30:47,467 --> 00:30:50,200 that if we breached that door, we were all gonna die. 553 00:30:52,567 --> 00:30:53,200 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 554 00:31:04,867 --> 00:31:06,333 [explosion] 555 00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:14,667 We could hear the hiss of the firework getting ignited. 556 00:31:14,667 --> 00:31:16,858 And he threw it out towards our direction. 557 00:31:16,858 --> 00:31:17,000 And he threw it out towards our direction. 558 00:31:18,467 --> 00:31:20,700 It was an extremely scary situation. 559 00:31:20,767 --> 00:31:23,767 We were basically inside a firework when it exploded. 560 00:31:23,767 --> 00:31:26,100 We had green and red cinders flying past us. 561 00:31:27,867 --> 00:31:29,867 He was definitely sending a message to us 562 00:31:29,867 --> 00:31:33,000 that he was aware of us and was willing to hurt us if he needed to. 563 00:31:34,667 --> 00:31:35,367 {\an8}[officer speaking over radio] 564 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:38,667 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 565 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,367 {\an8}[officer speaking over radio] 566 00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:59,266 [Sgt. Manser] You have to focus on the suspect and his actions, 567 00:31:59,266 --> 00:32:01,100 while you're still trying to get those neighbors out. 568 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:05,800 [rustling] 569 00:32:15,667 --> 00:32:16,367 [beeping over phone] 570 00:32:17,166 --> 00:32:17,900 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 571 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:20,266 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 572 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,100 {\an8}[beeping continues] 573 00:32:30,367 --> 00:32:31,066 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 574 00:32:33,467 --> 00:32:34,166 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 575 00:32:36,266 --> 00:32:37,200 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 576 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,567 {\an8}-[beeping continues] -[static over phone] 577 00:32:42,066 --> 00:32:43,166 {\an8}[small explosion] 578 00:32:43,166 --> 00:32:44,967 -[clicking] -[beeping continues] 579 00:32:45,967 --> 00:32:46,600 {\an8}[Jason speaking] 580 00:32:50,166 --> 00:32:51,433 [phone clicks] 581 00:32:52,166 --> 00:32:55,867 My conversation with our suspect lasted for 31 minutes. 582 00:32:55,867 --> 00:32:59,900 There were some explosions that we heard, and the telephone call ended. 583 00:32:59,967 --> 00:33:03,100 So, hearing all that, it was a scary situation. 584 00:33:04,367 --> 00:33:05,767 {\an8}[officer speaking] 585 00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:08,767 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 586 00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:16,166 {\an8}[officer] Over here? 587 00:33:16,767 --> 00:33:16,858 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 588 00:33:16,858 --> 00:33:17,000 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 589 00:33:19,066 --> 00:33:20,700 [explosion] 590 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,000 When that bang went off, we were concerned, so we started to retreat. 591 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,266 We knew he had firearms, so that's always a probability there, 592 00:33:30,266 --> 00:33:33,166 that he could spot us, he could see us and shoot at us, 593 00:33:33,166 --> 00:33:34,834 or shoot in our direction. 594 00:33:34,834 --> 00:33:37,166 [Lt. Weidman] I was in the front, the north portion of the house, 595 00:33:37,166 --> 00:33:39,100 so I could see the windows in the front. 596 00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:40,967 And when they were exploding inside, 597 00:33:40,967 --> 00:33:43,467 it looked like a complete flash of light. 598 00:33:43,467 --> 00:33:46,467 So I knew that there were definitely strong fireworks going off. 599 00:33:46,467 --> 00:33:46,858 Knowing that he was willing to escalate things, 600 00:33:46,858 --> 00:33:47,000 Knowing that he was willing to escalate things, 601 00:33:48,367 --> 00:33:51,100 to blow off explosives inside the house, 602 00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:54,367 we weren't sure if his kids were really a priority to him at that point, or not. 603 00:33:55,266 --> 00:33:55,967 [knocking] 604 00:33:56,467 --> 00:33:57,467 {\an8}[officer speaking] 605 00:33:57,467 --> 00:33:58,166 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser whispering] 606 00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:00,767 {\an8}[officer] Watch it. 607 00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:03,767 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 608 00:34:04,667 --> 00:34:05,467 {\an8}[female officer speaking] 609 00:34:05,467 --> 00:34:06,333 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser] All right. 610 00:34:08,667 --> 00:34:09,567 {\an8}[female officer speaking inaudibly] 611 00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:14,100 {\an8}-[girl crying] -[Sgt. Manser speaking] 612 00:34:25,867 --> 00:34:26,867 {\an8}[girl speaking] 613 00:34:27,867 --> 00:34:28,867 {\an8}-[Sgt. Manser] Oh, jeez. -[officer speaking] 614 00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:32,000 {\an8}[girl screaming] 615 00:34:34,567 --> 00:34:35,266 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser] Oh, dear God. 616 00:34:35,967 --> 00:34:36,600 {\an8}[officer speaking] 617 00:34:38,467 --> 00:34:39,100 {\an8}[girl crying] 618 00:34:40,100 --> 00:34:41,800 {\an8}[coughing] 619 00:34:45,467 --> 00:34:46,166 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 620 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:47,667 {\an8}[officer speaking] 621 00:34:48,266 --> 00:34:49,000 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 622 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,266 {\an8}-What? -[officer speaking] 623 00:35:01,867 --> 00:35:02,500 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 624 00:35:08,767 --> 00:35:09,700 {\an8}[officer speaking] 625 00:35:16,266 --> 00:35:16,858 [Sgt. Manser] We're being loud now, 626 00:35:16,858 --> 00:35:17,000 [Sgt. Manser] We're being loud now, 627 00:35:17,266 --> 00:35:18,867 our tactical advantage is gone. 628 00:35:18,867 --> 00:35:21,500 We're openly talking to the daughter. 629 00:35:25,166 --> 00:35:25,800 {\an8}[officer speaking] 630 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:28,266 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 631 00:35:29,667 --> 00:35:30,367 {\an8}[officer speaking] 632 00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:35,200 [girl crying distantly] 633 00:35:36,266 --> 00:35:37,767 {\an8}[officer speaking] 634 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,367 {\an8}[female officer] Okay. 635 00:35:40,367 --> 00:35:41,066 {\an8}[officer speaking] 636 00:35:44,867 --> 00:35:45,934 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 637 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,467 {\an8}-[officer] Or, honey... -[Sgt. Manser speaking] 638 00:35:52,467 --> 00:35:54,100 {\an8}[officer] ...if you scoot to your left, I can catch you. 639 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,100 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 640 00:36:01,767 --> 00:36:03,500 {\an8}[girl speaking] 641 00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:16,858 [Sgt. Manser] I was right by one of the neighbor's apartment complexes. 642 00:36:16,858 --> 00:36:17,000 [Sgt. Manser] I was right by one of the neighbor's apartment complexes. 643 00:36:18,667 --> 00:36:21,967 The door was open. I went in, to get a ladder. 644 00:36:21,967 --> 00:36:24,367 That would have been the area where somebody would have kept a ladder. 645 00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:28,266 {\an8}[officer speaking] 646 00:36:28,266 --> 00:36:29,000 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 647 00:36:30,266 --> 00:36:31,900 [officer] Yep, good. Drop. 648 00:36:35,166 --> 00:36:38,166 [Sgt. Manser] She's gonna have to climb out of a third story window, 649 00:36:38,166 --> 00:36:40,767 hang from a gutter and dangle herself to drop 650 00:36:40,767 --> 00:36:42,400 straight to the deck below her. 651 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,033 {\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking] 652 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,300 {\an8}-[Lt. Weidman speaking] -[Sgt. Cline speaking] 653 00:36:56,867 --> 00:36:58,600 {\an8}[police dispatch over radio] 109, do you have a portable ladder? 654 00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:00,166 {\an8}[Sgt. Cline] Yep. 655 00:37:15,166 --> 00:37:15,303 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 656 00:37:15,303 --> 00:37:15,867 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 657 00:37:17,266 --> 00:37:18,867 {\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking] 658 00:37:18,867 --> 00:37:20,166 {\an8}-[Lt. Weidman speaking] -[Sgt. Cline speaking] 659 00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:23,100 Yep, come on. 660 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,367 [Sgt. Manser speaking] It was pretty harrowing to watch. 661 00:37:36,367 --> 00:37:41,000 She got on the deck, jumped down into Sgt. Cline's arms, 662 00:37:41,066 --> 00:37:43,900 and he ran down and took her to an awaiting ambulance. 663 00:37:45,467 --> 00:37:46,000 [Lt. Weidman] I went over there to help Sgt. Cline 664 00:37:47,066 --> 00:37:48,333 get her off the balcony. 665 00:37:48,367 --> 00:37:51,900 So, that was a great feeling, seeing her get into our arms. 666 00:37:53,867 --> 00:37:54,567 {\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking] 667 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,367 [girl's response bleeped out] 668 00:37:56,367 --> 00:37:57,100 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 669 00:38:00,867 --> 00:38:01,567 {\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking] 670 00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:03,767 {\an8}[girl speaking] 671 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:05,667 {\an8}[Sgt. Cline] All right. 672 00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:08,166 {\an8}[girl mumbles inaudibly] 673 00:38:08,166 --> 00:38:08,867 {\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking] 674 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:10,467 {\an8}[girl screaming] 675 00:38:15,166 --> 00:38:15,303 {\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking] 676 00:38:15,303 --> 00:38:16,000 {\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking] 677 00:38:16,867 --> 00:38:17,767 {\an8}-[girl speaking] -[Sgt. Cline speaking] 678 00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:19,367 {\an8}[girl speaking] 679 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:20,667 {\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking] 680 00:38:24,667 --> 00:38:25,467 {\an8}[girl gasping] 681 00:38:25,467 --> 00:38:26,567 {\an8}-[Sgt. Cline] Huh? -[girl continues] 682 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,100 {\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking] 683 00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:30,100 {\an8}-[girl] Yeah. -[Sgt. Cline speaking] 684 00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:33,300 {\an8}[girl speaking] 685 00:38:33,367 --> 00:38:34,533 {\an8}[Sgt. Cline speaking] 686 00:38:47,767 --> 00:38:51,066 [Sgt. Manser] That was an extremely tense moment. 687 00:38:51,066 --> 00:38:52,400 We knew she was inside, 688 00:38:52,467 --> 00:38:55,266 we knew she needed help and we needed to react. 689 00:38:57,967 --> 00:38:59,000 Let's go. 690 00:39:07,266 --> 00:39:09,667 When I looked through the basement door, 691 00:39:09,667 --> 00:39:15,303 uh, the whole ceiling was coated in, uh, red and orange flames. 692 00:39:15,303 --> 00:39:15,800 uh, the whole ceiling was coated in, uh, red and orange flames. 693 00:39:15,867 --> 00:39:16,000 Uh, the smoke was billowing out of the house, uh, much more faster now. 694 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,266 So you had the, the smell of the smoke in the air, 695 00:39:23,266 --> 00:39:25,867 you could hear the fire cracking, the fire popping. 696 00:39:25,867 --> 00:39:29,467 It was definitely something where you knew you needed to react, 697 00:39:29,467 --> 00:39:32,166 and we, we needed to do something now. 698 00:39:32,166 --> 00:39:33,266 [officer] Hey, you guys got the shield? 699 00:39:33,266 --> 00:39:34,567 [Sgt. Manser] 1-4-1, bring that shield around here. 700 00:39:34,567 --> 00:39:35,667 [officer] Okay. 701 00:39:35,667 --> 00:39:36,967 We needed to breach that door. 702 00:39:38,867 --> 00:39:39,600 [indistinct police radio chatter] 703 00:39:40,867 --> 00:39:41,500 {\an8}[officer speaking] 704 00:39:46,700 --> 00:39:47,367 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 705 00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:51,333 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 706 00:39:54,266 --> 00:39:57,967 The smoke is a wall. It hits you right in the face. 707 00:39:57,967 --> 00:40:00,100 [Lt. Weidman] As soon as that door opened, my first feeling was 708 00:40:00,166 --> 00:40:01,667 that there's no way she's alive. 709 00:40:01,667 --> 00:40:04,467 There's no way anybody, especially a little girl 710 00:40:04,467 --> 00:40:07,300 could live through the smoke, the heat, the flames. 711 00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:09,767 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 712 00:40:13,567 --> 00:40:14,500 Hang on, one sec. 713 00:40:23,266 --> 00:40:23,967 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 714 00:40:23,967 --> 00:40:25,000 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman speaking] 715 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:25,667 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 716 00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:34,266 {\an8}[female officer speaking] 717 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:36,667 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser speaking] 718 00:40:37,667 --> 00:40:38,767 {\an8}[girl speaking] 719 00:40:39,867 --> 00:40:41,367 [Sgt. Manser in muffled voice] Good job, good job. 720 00:40:42,967 --> 00:40:45,303 She was on the floor, on all fours, crawling towards me. 721 00:40:45,303 --> 00:40:45,767 She was on the floor, on all fours, crawling towards me. 722 00:40:45,767 --> 00:40:46,000 It was just an overwhelming sense that she was okay, 723 00:40:49,467 --> 00:40:51,767 and that we were gonna be able to save her. 724 00:40:51,767 --> 00:40:53,700 One of the best moments in, in my career. 725 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,000 There was no more contact with the suspect. 726 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,667 We had no more dealings, no more contact at all. 727 00:41:01,467 --> 00:41:02,767 We couldn't rush in there, 728 00:41:02,767 --> 00:41:05,500 under the seriousness of what was going on with the fire. 729 00:41:05,567 --> 00:41:07,166 We couldn't risk our safety. 730 00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:11,667 [narrator] Firefighters work for hours to extinguish the blaze. 731 00:41:13,367 --> 00:41:15,303 Police find Jason Tyo dead in a back room on the second floor. 732 00:41:15,303 --> 00:41:16,000 Police find Jason Tyo dead in a back room on the second floor. 733 00:41:19,667 --> 00:41:24,467 He died from the effects of the fire, including smoke inhalation. 734 00:41:24,467 --> 00:41:27,166 His death was recorded as an accident. 735 00:41:28,567 --> 00:41:30,667 It's hard for me to try to figure out what his motives were. 736 00:41:31,867 --> 00:41:33,967 A lot of the times, we end up dealing with people 737 00:41:33,967 --> 00:41:36,166 that are in some kind of crisis. 738 00:41:36,166 --> 00:41:37,667 It's so unpredictable. 739 00:41:39,667 --> 00:41:43,100 {\an8}[narrator] Both girls are treated by EMS at the scene, 740 00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:45,300 {\an8}and released without injury. 741 00:41:45,367 --> 00:41:46,000 {\an8}[Lt. Weidman] To find out that they were not injured at all, 742 00:41:47,166 --> 00:41:50,100 {\an8}it wasn't smoke inhalation, it wasn't physical burns, 743 00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:53,066 {\an8}that was the best news that I heard all night. 744 00:41:53,066 --> 00:41:55,367 {\an8}[Sgt. Manser] There's definitely an adrenaline dump. 745 00:41:55,367 --> 00:41:58,166 {\an8}I felt a feeling that I've never felt before, 746 00:41:58,166 --> 00:42:00,767 {\an8}in, in 22 years of law enforcement. 747 00:42:00,767 --> 00:42:03,567 {\an8}It was a pretty overwhelming sense that 748 00:42:03,567 --> 00:42:04,800 {\an8}those kids were gonna be safe.