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[people chattering]
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-[man speaking over megaphone]
-[brass band playing march]
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[crowd cheering and applauding]
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[ship horns blaring]
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[man] Bicentennial hats here!
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Bicentennial hats.
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[man 2] Excuse me, do you feel patriotic?
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Patriotic is-- is not the real feeling
that I have right now.
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People like bicentennial hats,
I sell 'em bicentennial hats.
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[man 2] Uh-huh.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
of this beautiful day
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and this bicentennial day, right here,
downtown in New York City,
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ladies and gentlemen.
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Joseph Hurdley Jr.,
songwriter of New York City.
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Otherwise, Uncle Sam is going to sing
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one of his versions
of "The Star-Spangled Banner."
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Ladies and gentlemen,
"The Star-Spangled Banner" with new music.
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Words by Francis Scott Key
and music by Joseph Hurdley Jr.,
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dedicated to the future of America,
God save the republic.
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Are you ready, maestro?
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No maestros? I'll sing it myself.
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♪ O say, can you see
By the dawn's early light ♪
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It's one dollar.
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Get your copies here.
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-I've got four versions of...
-[acoustic guitar playing]
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[Dylan] ♪ Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man ♪
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♪ Play a song for me ♪
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♪ I'm not sleepy
And there is no place I'm going to ♪
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♪ Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man ♪
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♪ Play a song for me ♪
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♪ In the jingle jangle morning ♪
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♪ I'll come followin' you ♪
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♪ Though I know that evenin's empire ♪
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♪ Has returned into sand... ♪
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[Richard Nixon] We're gathered
in this historic house
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for the celebration
of the 200th anniversary
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of the United States,
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but I refer to the words that were spoken
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by those who at the time
of the Declaration of Independence
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thought of the mission of America,
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what America could mean to the world.
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And one of them said
that we act not just for ourselves,
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but for all mankind.
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[Dylan] ♪ Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man ♪
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♪ Play a song for me... ♪
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[older Dylan] Saigon had fallen.
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People had seemed to, uh,
lost their sense of,
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uh, conviction for...
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for just about anything.
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[Dylan] ♪ Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man... ♪
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[older Dylan]
Lot of arguments about why...
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America was chased out of Vietnam...
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in such a humiliating way.
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Two people tried to shoot the president
in one month.
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[Dylan] ♪ Take me on a trip
Upon your magic... ♪
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[Nixon] Let us set for our goal in 1976
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to move forward in the realm
of the American spirit.
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[Dylan] ♪ My hands can't feel to grip ♪
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That the opportunity that everybody
in this room has had...
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is something that is a realizable dream
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that can be achieved
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for anyone who has the good fortune
to be born in this country,
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or anyone who has the good fortune
to come to this country.
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[Dylan] ♪ Ready for to fade
Into my own parade... ♪
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[older Dylan]
The idea was to put a tour up,
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combination of different acts
on the same stage
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for a variety of, uh, musical styles.
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I wouldn't say it was a, uh,
traditional revue,
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but it was in the, uh, traditional...
um...
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form of, uh, of a revue.
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That's all clumsy bullshit.
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-[interviewer] Okay.
-Y'know.
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-[interviewer] So what--
-I'm trying to get to the...
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[interviewer] To the core thing.
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To the core of what
this Rolling Thunder thing is all about,
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and I don't have a clue,
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because it's not... It's about nothing.
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It's a-- It's just something that happened
40 years ago.
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[scoffs] And that's the truth of it.
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-Why don't we go down that road?
-Okay, we can.
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-[interviewer laughs]
-Let's go.
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All right, let's go.
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I don't remember a thing
about Rolling Thunder.
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-[interviewer] Okay.
-I mean, it-- it happened
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so long ago, I wasn't even born, you know?
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-[interviewer chuckles]
-Uh, I... So, what do you wanna know?
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♪ And take me disappearing ♪
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♪ Through the smoke rings of my mind ♪
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♪ Down the foggy ruins of time ♪
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♪ Far past the frozen leaves ♪
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♪ The haunted, frightened trees ♪
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♪ Out to the windy beach ♪
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♪ Far from the twisted reach
Of crazy sorrow ♪
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♪ Yes, to dance beneath the diamond sky ♪
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♪ With one hand waving free ♪
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♪ Silhouetted by the sea ♪
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♪ Circled by the circus sands ♪
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♪ With all memory and fate ♪
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♪ Driven deep beneath the waves ♪
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♪ Let me forget about today
Until tomorrow ♪
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♪ Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man ♪
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♪ Play a song for me ♪
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♪ I'm not sleepy... ♪
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[man 1] Is that Bob Dylan?
That is Bob Dylan!
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[older Dylan]
Life isn't about finding yourself...
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or finding anything.
Life is about creating yourself.
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-[man 2] Playing tonight?
-[older Dylan] And creating things.
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[woman] And I want to introduce
another fine...
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entertainer here at Folk City,
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so everybody...
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[Ginsberg] Summer, 1975.
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It was a very odd scene in New York.
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Unusual. Sort of.
The folk era had died out. Or did it?
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-[applause]
-[woman] Joan Baez
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and her friend Bob Dylan!
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Let's have a nice hand for Joan Baez...
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[Ginsberg] Rumor came around
that the inspired Dylan was back,
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gathering all-- all his forces.
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[Dylan and Baez]
♪ When ev'rything that I'm sayin' ♪
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♪ You can say it just as good ♪
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Woo!
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And pretty soon,
they were all jamming together
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as if they were young musicians
having fun,
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actually in direct contact
with each other.
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♪ And all the hills echoèd ♪
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♪ And all the hills echoèd ♪
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♪ My name is Juanano de Castro ♪
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[Midler] Lord...
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[Elliott]
♪ My father was a Spanish grandee ♪
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[indistinct chatter]
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[woman] Excuse me, please!
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We're really running short of time.
I wanna introduce...
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Miss Patti Smith and Eric Anderson.
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Let's have a nice hand.
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-Let's hear it! Get up here!
-[audience cheers]
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There was a...
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There was an archer...
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There was an archer who was in love
with his sister.
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So, the archer looked at his sister
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and he said,
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"All the madness
between me and you is real private."
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But the sister was too scared,
so the sister...
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the sister put down her cigarette
and she married the sultan.
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So the archer became a... the archer
for the king.
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So, it was the wedding night,
and the sultan and the sister
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were gonna get married.
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And so...
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the archer went out the door,
and he had on his armor,
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and he was going. There was all, like...
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You know how like the gran-- ground was
in 16th-century Japan?
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It was black and green like a chessboard.
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So the archer was walking
on the black part of the chessboard,
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and he looked
at the black part of the chessboard,
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and it looked
like the back of his sister's hair.
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-And so...
-[guitar plays]
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You know how it is.
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-[audience murmurs]
-[man] Yeah.
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Anyway, it looked... Oh, what a mess.
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Looked like the back of his sister's hair,
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and so he couldn't advance
and be the king's archer no more,
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because he looked over at the palace,
and over at the palace,
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he saw his sister undressing
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for the sultan.
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So the prince took off a--
took off all his armor,
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and he started walking toward the palace.
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He started walking in another direction,
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started walking in another dimension,
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started walking in another dimension.
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He moved in another dimension.
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♪ I move in another dimension ♪
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-♪ I move in another dimension ♪
-[audience cheers]
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-♪ I move in another dimension ♪
-[audience clapping along]
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♪ I move in another dimension ♪
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-♪ And he kept on walking ♪
-[electric guitar plays]
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♪ And he walked real slow ♪
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[woman whoops]
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♪ Here is the first archer ♪
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♪ In rock 'n' roll ♪
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♪ He walked toward the palace ♪
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♪ Toward the palace of answers ♪
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♪ He took big steps ♪
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♪ He took big steps ♪
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♪ He walked seven ways ♪
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♪ He walked seven ways ♪
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♪ He freed the elements ♪
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♪ The hurricane just burst
From his hands ♪
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[audience applauds and cheers]
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[male singer] ♪ You are my sunshine ♪
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-♪ My only sunshine ♪
-Let's go!
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[all] ♪ You make me happy ♪
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-♪ When skies are gray ♪
-[woman] Whoopee!
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♪ You'll never know, dear
How much I... ♪
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[Ginsberg] October, November, uh...
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Dylan might have some idea
to do something.
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Sort of like a... con man,
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carny medicine show of old,
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where you just get in a bus
and go from town--
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or a carriage, and go from town to town.
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It's like Dylan is taking us out to try
and give us each... He's presenting us.
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I mean, that's his conception.
I mean, it hasn't been made overt.
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His idea is, uh...
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to show how beautiful he is... [chuckles]
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...by showing how beautiful we are...
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by showing how beautiful...
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the ensemble is.
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So, it's to show the actual community.
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Which is way-- the way-- the way life is,
the way that life of poets is.
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-[strumming guitar]
-♪ I live in an apartment ♪
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♪ Sink leaks through the walls ♪
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♪ Lower East Side full of bedbugs ♪
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♪ Junkies in the halls ♪
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♪ House been broken into ♪
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♪ Tibetan thangkas stole ♪
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♪ Speed freaks took my statues ♪
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♪ And made my love a fool ♪
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-♪ Speed freaks took my statues ♪
-[man laughs]
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♪ And made my love a fool ♪
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-Do you wanna hear more or...?
-[Dylan] Yeah.
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[Ginsberg] I got this big audition.
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[van Dorp] There was this party
at Allen Ginsberg's apartment.
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[interviewer]
And that's where you met Dylan?
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Uh, yes.
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-[interviewer] What did you think of him?
-Uh, Dylan was fine.
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[van Dorp]
There were all these crazy people,
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all getting high and coming up to him
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and spinning faster and faster,
and Bob didn't react.
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I think he just, uh,
watched the whole thing.
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I think he liked the chaos.
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[Dylan] ♪ I am a rake and a rambling boy ♪
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-♪ There's many a city I did enjoy ♪
-[fiddle plays]
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-[man] Woo!
-♪ But now I married me a better wife ♪
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♪ And I love her dearer
Than I love my life ♪
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[slow song playing]
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[older Dylan] My idea was
to have a kind of a jug band,
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uh, for the whole show,
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something, uh, along the lines
of maybe, uh, Kweskin Jug Band...
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but that didn't happen.
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[van Dorp] They were in the middle
of the rehearsals at SIR Studio,
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and I talked to Levy, and he asked Dylan
if it was all right for me to shoot
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B-roll of the rehearsal.
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Dylan was all right with it,
but Levy told me there was no budget.
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Because I thought that this was really
going to go somewhere,
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I took all the money that I had,
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and I paid for everything
out of my own pocket.
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-[indistinct chatter]
-[strumming of instruments]
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-[interviewer] Did Bob like you?
-[van Dorp] I don't know, who knows?
247
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He was--
It was like looking into a mirror.
248
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You either saw what you wanted to see,
249
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or you hated what you saw.
250
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I can tell you this,
back then I used to smoke,
251
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and I held my cigarette like this,
252
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you know, the European style.
253
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After that night at Ginsberg's,
Bob started holding it like that, too.
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That was me.
255
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♪ Rita May, Rita May ♪
256
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♪ How did you ever get that way? ♪
257
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♪ When'd you ever see the light? ♪
258
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♪ Don't you ever feel afraid? ♪
259
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♪ You got me burning and a-turning ♪
260
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♪ But I know I must be learning ♪
261
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♪ Rita May ♪
262
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["One More Cup of Coffee" playing]
263
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♪ And I don't sense affection ♪
264
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♪ No gratitude or love ♪
265
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♪ Your loyalty is not to me ♪
266
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-♪ But to the stars above ♪
-[man] Yeah!
267
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♪ One more cup of coffee for the road ♪
268
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♪ One more cup of coffee 'fore I go ♪
269
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♪ To the valley below ♪
270
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[woman] I was going
to a jazz musician friend of mine house
271
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in the Lower East Side,
272
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and I was just about to cross the street,
and a car cut me off.
273
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It was Bob.
274
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It was Dylan.
275
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And...
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[clears throat]
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It was never verbalized.
278
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I knew who he was, or he knew I knew.
279
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Just sort of passed, you know.
280
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We just played music all day
and all night.
281
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We went to The Bottom Line
and played with Muddy Waters,
282
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and we went that night
to Victoria Spivey's house.
283
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She's an old blues singer.
284
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And, um...
285
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we played music
till about six in the morning.
286
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It was really great.
287
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-[band playing]
-[man] She wears a turtle...
288
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-♪ She wears a turtleneck sweater ♪
-[man laughs]
289
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♪ And a nylon shoe ♪
290
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♪ She wears a turtleneck sweater ♪
291
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♪ And a nylon shoe ♪
292
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♪ There's nothing she won't say ♪
293
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♪ And there's nothing that she won't do ♪
294
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[man] There are 52 people.
If each person asks him is he okay,
295
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it becomes a long, hard
question and answer period for him.
296
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Is the light bothering him?
297
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Is the guitar right?
298
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Does he like the lighting?
299
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Is the sound monitor okay?
300
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He's a big man,
and he knows what he wants.
301
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♪ No llores, mi querida ♪
302
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♪ Dios nos vigila ♪
303
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♪ Soon the horse will take us to Durango ♪
304
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[woman] Five ten.
305
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-[Dylan] Five ten?
-[woman] Yeah.
306
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So what does he do?
307
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He's a director.
308
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Theater.
309
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Theater?
310
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But that's not...
311
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That's why I'm saying it's tricky
because it's not marriage, is it?
312
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I mean, unless you actually make it--
313
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Well, I mean,
maybe marriage to the theater.
314
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But when you said marriage,
315
00:16:26,944 --> 00:16:29,780
I assumed you-- you meant marriage
between two people.
316
00:16:30,531 --> 00:16:31,365
-Yeah.
-Did you?
317
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Well, no, mental marriage.
318
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-Mental marriage?
-Yeah.
319
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Ah, well, that's interesting.
320
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[Dylan speaks indistinctly]
321
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♪ Some speak of the future ♪
322
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♪ My love, she speaks softly ♪
323
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♪ 'Cause there's no success like failure ♪
324
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♪ And failure's no success at all ♪
325
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[Dylan] Hey!
326
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[Sloman] I'm doing a-- a thing on a tour
for Rolling Stone magazine.
327
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-[woman] Yes.
-[Sloman] Okay?
328
00:17:03,022 --> 00:17:05,107
And-- And basically, I saw Bob leave,
329
00:17:05,566 --> 00:17:09,945
uh, after that... uh, um, the dialogue
you did with him, the marriage thing.
330
00:17:10,029 --> 00:17:10,904
Yes.
331
00:17:10,988 --> 00:17:14,616
And he said to one of the cameramen,
"That is hot. That was a hot scene."
332
00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:16,452
-Okay.
-Oh, I'm really flattered. I'm touched.
333
00:17:16,535 --> 00:17:18,871
Okay, now, look,
I-- I-- I just wanna know,
334
00:17:19,163 --> 00:17:21,123
how did-- how did it happen?
I mean, was it set up?
335
00:17:21,206 --> 00:17:22,916
-It happened-- No.
-Was it a set up scene?
336
00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,376
It was totally spontaneous.
337
00:17:24,752 --> 00:17:26,545
I was on my way to the bathroom...
338
00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:27,588
Yeah.
339
00:17:27,671 --> 00:17:31,759
[woman] ...when, uh, on my way, uh,
Mel Howard introduced me to Bob Dylan.
340
00:17:31,925 --> 00:17:34,053
What-- What did you say?
And what was your point--
341
00:17:34,136 --> 00:17:36,013
-What did I say to--
-In the conversation to Bob?
342
00:17:36,096 --> 00:17:38,474
Well, it was a sort of free...
343
00:17:39,933 --> 00:17:41,977
-uh, going from one thing to another.
-Freewheeling?
344
00:17:42,061 --> 00:17:43,103
-Freewheeling.
-It wasn't--
345
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It wasn't meant to be specifically--
specifically that.
346
00:17:45,939 --> 00:17:47,649
Yeah, but you started talking
about marriage.
347
00:17:47,733 --> 00:17:48,901
Out of the blue,
348
00:17:48,984 --> 00:17:51,445
-the subject of marriage came up.
-But what did you say?
349
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[Dylan] ♪ Come gather 'round, fellers ♪
350
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♪ So young and so fine ♪
351
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♪ And seek not your fortune ♪
352
00:18:05,501 --> 00:18:09,171
♪ Down in the mine ♪
353
00:18:10,422 --> 00:18:12,257
♪ It will form... ♪
354
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[interviewer] Was the idea to make
a behind-the-scenes film of the tour?
355
00:18:16,136 --> 00:18:18,097
[van Dorp] I think that's
what they were expecting.
356
00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:20,891
They just thought that
I was going to make it a concert film,
357
00:18:20,974 --> 00:18:23,352
but I was trying to make something
really serious out of this.
358
00:18:23,936 --> 00:18:27,189
First, what I wanted to show was
musicians working together,
359
00:18:27,272 --> 00:18:28,524
making music together.
360
00:18:28,732 --> 00:18:30,234
That was them doing their job.
361
00:18:30,567 --> 00:18:31,777
That was, you know,
362
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that was as if I went to film my father
in his shoe store.
363
00:18:35,489 --> 00:18:36,448
Focus in on that.
364
00:18:37,616 --> 00:18:38,867
[van Dorp] What is that, Patti?
365
00:18:38,951 --> 00:18:41,203
I seen th-- this Rimbaud book,
366
00:18:41,453 --> 00:18:43,163
and I saw this picture.
367
00:18:43,247 --> 00:18:45,916
I saw this vogue picture,
and I thought it looked like you,
368
00:18:45,999 --> 00:18:48,001
-and I thought he was a neat guy, y'know?
-Yeah?
369
00:18:48,085 --> 00:18:51,797
And I thought you were neat, so I used to,
like, pretend he was my boyfriend.
370
00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,341
Or if-- Or if you were.
You know, it doesn't matter, right?
371
00:18:54,424 --> 00:18:55,259
So anyway...
372
00:18:55,342 --> 00:18:56,426
What did you say?
373
00:18:56,510 --> 00:18:57,761
-What did I say?
-Yeah.
374
00:18:57,970 --> 00:19:00,681
[clicks tongue] I gave my thoughts on...
375
00:19:00,764 --> 00:19:03,267
He spoke about mental marriage.
376
00:19:03,559 --> 00:19:04,977
-When he asked me--
-Mental marriage?
377
00:19:05,060 --> 00:19:06,979
Uh, Superman takes a piece of coal,
378
00:19:07,062 --> 00:19:09,648
and he puts it in his hand,
and he starts squeezing it,
379
00:19:09,731 --> 00:19:11,942
and squeezing it, and squeezing it,
and squeezing it,
380
00:19:12,025 --> 00:19:13,402
and then it becomes like a diamond.
381
00:19:13,485 --> 00:19:14,444
-It's real hard.
-Yeah.
382
00:19:14,528 --> 00:19:16,280
And then, like, he drops it
on the ground,
383
00:19:16,363 --> 00:19:17,614
-on the baseball diamond.
-Yeah.
384
00:19:17,698 --> 00:19:20,200
And the kids, the kids keep kicking it,
the kids keep kicking it.
385
00:19:20,284 --> 00:19:21,785
-Yeah.
-Then it goes round and round.
386
00:19:21,869 --> 00:19:23,871
And after years and years
of kids kicking it around,
387
00:19:23,954 --> 00:19:26,456
it gets smooth, but it's not...
It's just changed.
388
00:19:26,540 --> 00:19:29,418
It's still the same crystal,
but it's smooth, so it's a crystal ball.
389
00:19:29,501 --> 00:19:30,919
So it's sitting there in the middle,
390
00:19:31,003 --> 00:19:33,755
the crystal ball is sitting there
in the middle of the baseball diamond.
391
00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:35,257
-Right.
-Okay? Now you can look in.
392
00:19:35,340 --> 00:19:37,176
[woman squeals, laughs]
393
00:19:37,885 --> 00:19:39,261
[indistinct chatter]
394
00:19:39,469 --> 00:19:41,889
[van Dorp] I hated the ristelaars...
395
00:19:42,097 --> 00:19:44,141
the, you know, the-- the facilitators.
396
00:19:44,224 --> 00:19:46,518
You know,
the-- the people hanging around him.
397
00:19:46,727 --> 00:19:49,021
People pretending that they had access,
398
00:19:49,104 --> 00:19:50,772
so that they could behave badly.
399
00:19:51,064 --> 00:19:52,649
This film was going to show
400
00:19:52,733 --> 00:19:56,236
the counterpoint
between the... the excesses of the people
401
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,031
on the tour
and the dissolution of society.
402
00:19:59,281 --> 00:20:01,450
-[man] Come on, everybody.
-[woman] Allen!
403
00:20:01,533 --> 00:20:03,911
[van Dorp] I wanted to show
the land of Pet Rocks
404
00:20:03,994 --> 00:20:06,371
and Super Slurpees from 7-Eleven.
405
00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:08,415
L'Amérique insolite.
406
00:20:08,498 --> 00:20:09,416
[chorus harmonizing]
407
00:20:09,499 --> 00:20:12,836
[van Dorp] I would go on the road
with the Rolling Thunder Revue.
408
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,379
-Right here.
-[man shouts]
409
00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:17,341
-[camera shutter clicks]
-[Dylan] See you Thursday.
410
00:20:19,301 --> 00:20:22,804
[Dylan on recording] This is a true story.
Actually, they're all true.
411
00:20:23,639 --> 00:20:26,350
Boy. Sure hope we get to Boston on time.
412
00:20:26,725 --> 00:20:29,728
["Isis" playing]
413
00:20:43,825 --> 00:20:45,327
♪ I married Isis ♪
414
00:20:45,577 --> 00:20:47,079
♪ On the fifth day of May ♪
415
00:20:47,663 --> 00:20:49,498
♪ But I could not hold on ♪
416
00:20:49,957 --> 00:20:51,250
♪ To her very long ♪
417
00:20:51,792 --> 00:20:53,335
♪ So I cut off my hair ♪
418
00:20:53,835 --> 00:20:55,462
♪ And I rode straight away ♪
419
00:20:55,921 --> 00:20:57,756
♪ For the wild, unknown country ♪
420
00:20:57,839 --> 00:20:59,591
♪ Where I could not go wrong ♪
421
00:21:00,175 --> 00:21:01,969
♪ I came to a high place ♪
422
00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:03,804
♪ Of darkness and light ♪
423
00:21:04,137 --> 00:21:06,098
♪ The dividing line ran ♪
424
00:21:06,181 --> 00:21:07,808
♪ Through the center of town ♪
425
00:21:08,308 --> 00:21:10,102
♪ I hitched up my pony ♪
426
00:21:10,185 --> 00:21:12,145
♪ To a post on the right ♪
427
00:21:12,396 --> 00:21:14,064
♪ Went into a laundry ♪
428
00:21:14,147 --> 00:21:16,149
♪ To wash my clothes down ♪
429
00:21:16,525 --> 00:21:18,193
♪ A man in the corner ♪
430
00:21:18,610 --> 00:21:20,195
♪ Approached me for a match ♪
431
00:21:20,654 --> 00:21:22,322
♪ I knew right away ♪
432
00:21:22,406 --> 00:21:24,116
♪ He was not ordinary ♪
433
00:21:24,658 --> 00:21:26,118
♪ He said, "Are you looking ♪
434
00:21:26,410 --> 00:21:28,495
♪ For something easy to catch?" ♪
435
00:21:28,578 --> 00:21:30,122
♪ I said, "I got no money, man" ♪
436
00:21:30,205 --> 00:21:32,624
♪ He said, "That ain't necessary" ♪
437
00:21:49,266 --> 00:21:50,934
♪ We set out that night ♪
438
00:21:51,101 --> 00:21:52,853
♪ For the cold in the north ♪
439
00:21:53,312 --> 00:21:55,105
♪ I gave him my blanket ♪
440
00:21:55,188 --> 00:21:56,732
♪ And he gave me his word ♪
441
00:21:57,357 --> 00:21:58,984
♪ I said, "Where we goin'?" ♪
442
00:21:59,067 --> 00:22:01,028
♪ He said, "We be back by the fourth" ♪
443
00:22:01,403 --> 00:22:03,196
♪ I said, "That's the best news ♪
444
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,198
♪ That I've ever heard" ♪
445
00:22:05,282 --> 00:22:07,200
♪ I was thinkin' about turquoise ♪
446
00:22:07,284 --> 00:22:09,244
♪ I was thinkin' about gold ♪
447
00:22:09,328 --> 00:22:11,163
♪ I was thinkin' about diamonds ♪
448
00:22:11,246 --> 00:22:13,373
♪ And the world's biggest necklace ♪
449
00:22:13,457 --> 00:22:15,459
♪ As we rode through the canyons ♪
450
00:22:15,542 --> 00:22:17,419
♪ Through the devilish cold ♪
451
00:22:17,544 --> 00:22:19,254
♪ I was thinkin' about Isis ♪
452
00:22:19,338 --> 00:22:21,757
♪ How she thought I was so reckless ♪
453
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,385
♪ She told me, though, that one day
We would meet up again ♪
454
00:22:25,886 --> 00:22:27,763
♪ And things would be different ♪
455
00:22:27,888 --> 00:22:29,681
♪ The next time we wed ♪
456
00:22:29,765 --> 00:22:31,767
♪ If I could only just hang on ♪
457
00:22:31,933 --> 00:22:33,685
♪ And be her friend ♪
458
00:22:34,144 --> 00:22:35,729
♪ I still can't remember ♪
459
00:22:35,812 --> 00:22:37,773
♪ All the best things she said ♪
460
00:22:54,414 --> 00:22:56,166
♪ We came to the pyramids ♪
461
00:22:56,249 --> 00:22:57,959
♪ All embedded in ice ♪
462
00:22:58,251 --> 00:22:59,753
♪ He said, "There's a body ♪
463
00:22:59,836 --> 00:23:02,005
♪ That I'm tryin' to find ♪
464
00:23:02,214 --> 00:23:03,882
♪ If I carry it out ♪
465
00:23:04,091 --> 00:23:06,093
♪ It'll bring a good price" ♪
466
00:23:06,426 --> 00:23:07,969
♪ 'Twas then that I knew ♪
467
00:23:08,095 --> 00:23:10,138
♪ What he had on his mind ♪
468
00:23:10,222 --> 00:23:12,182
♪ Well, the wind, it was howlin' ♪
469
00:23:12,265 --> 00:23:14,267
♪ And the snow was outrageous ♪
470
00:23:14,351 --> 00:23:16,019
♪ We chopped through the night ♪
471
00:23:16,269 --> 00:23:18,271
♪ And we chopped through the dawn ♪
472
00:23:18,355 --> 00:23:20,315
♪ When he died, I was hopin' ♪
473
00:23:20,399 --> 00:23:22,275
♪ That it wasn't contagious ♪
474
00:23:22,442 --> 00:23:24,403
♪ But I made up my mind ♪
475
00:23:24,486 --> 00:23:26,488
♪ That I had to get on ♪
476
00:23:43,004 --> 00:23:44,673
♪ I picked up his body ♪
477
00:23:44,756 --> 00:23:46,258
♪ And I dragged him inside ♪
478
00:23:46,716 --> 00:23:48,427
♪ Threw him down in a hole ♪
479
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,429
♪ And I put back the cover ♪
480
00:23:50,971 --> 00:23:52,514
♪ I said a quick prayer ♪
481
00:23:52,681 --> 00:23:54,558
♪ Just to feel satisfied ♪
482
00:23:54,850 --> 00:23:56,518
♪ Then I went back to find Isis ♪
483
00:23:56,601 --> 00:23:58,812
♪ Just to tell her I love her ♪
484
00:23:58,895 --> 00:24:00,730
♪ She was there in the meadow ♪
485
00:24:00,814 --> 00:24:03,191
♪ Where the creek used to rise ♪
486
00:24:03,275 --> 00:24:04,818
♪ Blinded by sleep ♪
487
00:24:04,901 --> 00:24:06,903
♪ And in need of a bed ♪
488
00:24:06,987 --> 00:24:08,697
♪ I came in from the East ♪
489
00:24:08,780 --> 00:24:10,907
♪ With the sun in my eyes ♪
490
00:24:11,241 --> 00:24:14,703
♪ I cursed her one time
Then I rode on ahead ♪
491
00:24:15,078 --> 00:24:16,830
♪ She said, "Where you been?" ♪
492
00:24:17,205 --> 00:24:19,082
♪ I said, "No place special" ♪
493
00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:22,544
♪ She said, "You look different"
I said, "Well, I guess" ♪
494
00:24:23,211 --> 00:24:24,671
♪ She said, "You been gone" ♪
495
00:24:24,754 --> 00:24:28,508
♪ I said, "That's only natural"
She said, "You gonna stay?" ♪
496
00:24:28,592 --> 00:24:31,178
♪ I said, "If you want me to, yeah!" ♪
497
00:24:47,861 --> 00:24:49,529
♪ Isis, oh, Isis ♪
498
00:24:49,613 --> 00:24:51,281
♪ You a mystical child ♪
499
00:24:51,531 --> 00:24:53,366
♪ What drives me to you ♪
500
00:24:53,533 --> 00:24:55,494
♪ Is what drives me insane ♪
501
00:24:55,952 --> 00:24:57,496
♪ I still can remember ♪
502
00:24:57,579 --> 00:24:59,623
♪ The way that you smiled ♪
503
00:24:59,706 --> 00:25:01,541
♪ On the fifth day of May ♪
504
00:25:01,625 --> 00:25:04,044
♪ In the drizzlin' rain ♪
505
00:25:27,526 --> 00:25:31,404
-[audience applauds and cheers]
-[man speaking indistinctly over speakers]
506
00:25:35,450 --> 00:25:36,409
[van Dorp] Hi, Bob.
507
00:25:36,493 --> 00:25:39,162
-Hi, what you guys want? An interview?
-[van Dorp] Sure.
508
00:25:39,246 --> 00:25:41,248
-[Dylan] Ah, wh--
-[van Dorp] How was it, Bob?
509
00:25:41,748 --> 00:25:42,874
[Dylan] How was what?
510
00:25:44,334 --> 00:25:46,503
[interviewer]
What did Bob say about the tour?
511
00:25:46,586 --> 00:25:48,713
[van Dorp] I never asked him anything
because, you know,
512
00:25:48,797 --> 00:25:50,507
he wouldn't answer direct questions.
513
00:25:50,590 --> 00:25:52,425
[woman] Dylan, you're beautiful.
514
00:25:53,927 --> 00:25:56,263
-[indistinct chatter]
-[woman] Bob!
515
00:25:57,639 --> 00:25:58,890
[man] A legend is in town,
516
00:25:58,974 --> 00:26:01,518
and it's not just another...
rock 'n' roll show.
517
00:26:01,601 --> 00:26:03,853
I mean, it's rock 'n' roll,
but it's a special event.
518
00:26:03,937 --> 00:26:05,897
where rock 'n' roll
has four or five legends,
519
00:26:06,314 --> 00:26:09,234
this is one of them, and maybe
the biggest one at the present time.
520
00:26:09,442 --> 00:26:11,444
[crowd clamoring]
521
00:26:18,952 --> 00:26:21,705
[man 2] Not to brag,
but Rolling Thunder was kinda my idea,
522
00:26:21,788 --> 00:26:22,622
you know.
523
00:26:22,706 --> 00:26:24,958
Bob had done that tour with The Band
a few years back,
524
00:26:25,041 --> 00:26:26,918
and that was super successful,
525
00:26:27,002 --> 00:26:30,297
and then Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
were filling 50,000 seats a night.
526
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,633
And Zeppelin was huge.
I mean, there was money everywhere.
527
00:26:33,717 --> 00:26:36,344
You know, all you had to do
was bend down, pick it up.
528
00:26:36,636 --> 00:26:40,682
So, I had an idea that some kind of revue
with Bob would be a gold mine.
529
00:26:41,266 --> 00:26:42,976
So I went off and pitched the idea,
530
00:26:43,059 --> 00:26:45,145
and a bunch of local promoters
were interested.
531
00:26:45,645 --> 00:26:48,440
And then by the time I was done,
I ended up with 15 headliners.
532
00:26:48,732 --> 00:26:50,734
-[Baez exclaims]
-["Rita May" playing on stereo]
533
00:26:50,817 --> 00:26:53,445
♪ I'm gonna have to go to college
'Cause you are... ♪
534
00:26:53,528 --> 00:26:55,488
[Neuwirth] Now you've asked for it!
535
00:26:56,072 --> 00:26:58,199
We took a big risk. And, uh, you know,
536
00:26:58,283 --> 00:27:01,578
you had to put up the money,
get everybody, you know, hotels, catering,
537
00:27:01,661 --> 00:27:03,371
cars, all this stuff, buses.
538
00:27:03,913 --> 00:27:07,542
And you had to keep all these guys happy
and, you know, focused.
539
00:27:07,709 --> 00:27:11,004
And so... And that was, you loaded up
before you went out on the road.
540
00:27:11,421 --> 00:27:14,174
Then you hope you got paid.
And you hope the show worked.
541
00:27:14,257 --> 00:27:15,508
[crowd cheering]
542
00:27:15,592 --> 00:27:17,594
[interviewer]
Did you have any interaction with Bob?
543
00:27:17,677 --> 00:27:20,096
[Gianopulos] The only time I saw Bob
was when he was onstage
544
00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:21,306
or driving the bus.
545
00:27:21,514 --> 00:27:23,308
You know? Bob kept to himself.
546
00:27:23,850 --> 00:27:25,852
[Sloman] How did it become
"Rolling Thunder Revue"?
547
00:27:25,935 --> 00:27:28,271
Well, I asked Bob.
He said originally he was gonna call it
548
00:27:28,355 --> 00:27:29,522
Montezuma's Revue,
549
00:27:29,689 --> 00:27:30,982
but then he said he was home,
550
00:27:31,107 --> 00:27:34,110
and he was just kind of trying to think
of a name for the tour,
551
00:27:34,194 --> 00:27:36,613
when all of a sudden in the sky,
he heard, "Boom!"
552
00:27:36,696 --> 00:27:38,948
And then, from left to right,
553
00:27:39,074 --> 00:27:40,075
punctuating the sky,
554
00:27:40,241 --> 00:27:41,534
"Boom, boom, boom, boom!"
555
00:27:41,993 --> 00:27:44,579
So he said,
"Hey, let's call it 'Rolling Thunder.'"
556
00:27:44,663 --> 00:27:45,997
So before we even left,
557
00:27:46,206 --> 00:27:48,083
Chesley Millikin, who was on the tour,
says,
558
00:27:48,166 --> 00:27:50,460
"Bob, you know what 'rolling thunder'
means to the Indians?"
559
00:27:50,543 --> 00:27:53,588
And he goes, "What, man?"
And Chesley goes, "Speaking truth."
560
00:27:53,713 --> 00:27:56,299
And then Bob goes,
"I'm glad to hear that, man."
561
00:27:56,508 --> 00:27:59,260
Of course, later on we found out
that Rolling Thunder was actually
562
00:27:59,344 --> 00:28:02,180
the code name
for, uh, Nixon's bombing of Cambodia.
563
00:28:02,722 --> 00:28:06,518
And that Guam, the backup band,
was the base that, uh, they took off from.
564
00:28:06,601 --> 00:28:08,061
So, who knows what the real story is.
565
00:28:08,436 --> 00:28:11,564
[man] This is the leaflet for a concert
they're having in town next week.
566
00:28:12,357 --> 00:28:15,276
Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, and Jack Elliott.
567
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:16,903
Right in the Civic Center.
568
00:28:16,986 --> 00:28:19,155
[woman] You know me,
I'm too old for that kind of stuff.
569
00:28:19,239 --> 00:28:20,365
Oh, well.
570
00:28:20,448 --> 00:28:21,449
[woman chuckles]
571
00:28:21,616 --> 00:28:22,742
-Okay.
-[interviewer] So...
572
00:28:22,826 --> 00:28:24,577
when did you first hear about Bob?
573
00:28:25,328 --> 00:28:28,289
This is like a... a...
It sounds like a fairy tale,
574
00:28:28,832 --> 00:28:31,292
but all... a lot of the...
575
00:28:31,459 --> 00:28:34,671
It doesn't happen continuously
for more than a few days at a time,
576
00:28:34,754 --> 00:28:36,589
but a lot of my life,
577
00:28:37,424 --> 00:28:39,968
I feel like I really am leading
a charmed life,
578
00:28:40,051 --> 00:28:44,139
because miracles start happening
in threes or fours.
579
00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:46,766
[older Dylan] One thing I could tell you
about Ramblin' Jack,
580
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:49,436
he's more of a sailor than a singer.
581
00:28:49,936 --> 00:28:54,149
He can tie a bowline, a clove hitch,
and he could tie a rolling hitch,
582
00:28:54,816 --> 00:28:55,942
all blindfolded.
583
00:28:56,025 --> 00:28:58,361
If you're ever on a boat or sailing ship,
584
00:28:59,904 --> 00:29:03,616
you would rather have Ramblin' Jack
there as a sailor than a singer.
585
00:29:04,117 --> 00:29:07,454
♪ Now, London is a fine town
For sailors ♪
586
00:29:08,288 --> 00:29:12,167
♪ California and back to France, so... ♪
587
00:29:12,250 --> 00:29:14,753
[Ginsberg] Which would you rather be,
the Pilgrims or the Indians?
588
00:29:14,836 --> 00:29:16,963
-[boy] Pilgrims.
-[Ginsberg] Why the Pilgrims?
589
00:29:17,464 --> 00:29:18,757
Why do you wanna be the Pilgrims?
590
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,217
'Cause the Pilgrims all land
and they turn into wax dolls,
591
00:29:21,301 --> 00:29:23,595
and they're wax dolls
for the rest of the universe.
592
00:29:23,678 --> 00:29:24,929
[girl] So the Indians.
593
00:29:25,054 --> 00:29:28,433
Well, you know, the Indians, that's true--
Well, we're all wax dolls, so...
594
00:29:29,017 --> 00:29:33,396
The first concert will take place
in Plymouth...
595
00:29:34,189 --> 00:29:38,193
Uh, where the, uh, Pilgrims stepped
off their Mayflower.
596
00:29:38,693 --> 00:29:40,570
We're... as if we're-- we're Pilgrims.
597
00:29:40,862 --> 00:29:42,697
Pilgrims in the sense of searchers,
598
00:29:43,239 --> 00:29:45,241
looking for the, uh, kingdom of a nation
599
00:29:45,992 --> 00:29:47,744
with maybe a different intention.
600
00:29:48,244 --> 00:29:49,871
Making America a kingdom of poetry,
601
00:29:49,954 --> 00:29:51,080
a nation of poetry.
602
00:29:51,623 --> 00:29:53,625
["When I Paint My Masterpiece" playing]
603
00:30:05,136 --> 00:30:07,138
Well, look at this. Lookit.
604
00:30:07,388 --> 00:30:09,057
[van Dorp]
Have you ever heard of Bob Dylan?
605
00:30:09,140 --> 00:30:11,518
-Yeah.
-Yeah, I've heard of Bob Dylan, Joan Baez,
606
00:30:11,601 --> 00:30:12,435
Bob Neuwirth.
607
00:30:13,311 --> 00:30:16,731
[man] ...performing
at Memorial Auditorium. Anybody?
608
00:30:17,607 --> 00:30:18,691
Pass 'em out.
609
00:30:19,567 --> 00:30:21,736
-[crowd cheering]
-♪ I left Rome ♪
610
00:30:23,488 --> 00:30:25,698
♪ And pulled into Brussels ♪
611
00:30:27,617 --> 00:30:29,285
♪ On a plane ride ♪
612
00:30:29,536 --> 00:30:32,455
♪ So bumpy that I almost cried ♪
613
00:30:35,250 --> 00:30:37,544
♪ Clergymen in uniform ♪
614
00:30:37,627 --> 00:30:40,380
♪ Young girls pullin' muscles ♪
615
00:30:41,881 --> 00:30:44,175
♪ Well, it sure has been ♪
616
00:30:44,801 --> 00:30:47,136
♪ One hell of a ride ♪
617
00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:51,558
♪ Newspapermen ♪
618
00:30:52,433 --> 00:30:55,270
♪ Eating candy, ooh ♪
619
00:30:56,646 --> 00:30:58,940
♪ They had to be held back ♪
620
00:30:59,315 --> 00:31:01,359
♪ By big police ♪
621
00:31:03,987 --> 00:31:08,783
♪ Someday
Everything is gonna be different ♪
622
00:31:10,410 --> 00:31:16,833
♪ When I paint that masterpiece ♪
623
00:31:18,334 --> 00:31:19,544
♪ Train wrecks ♪
624
00:31:19,961 --> 00:31:23,339
♪ Running through the back of my memory ♪
625
00:31:25,008 --> 00:31:27,176
♪ When I ran on the hilltop ♪
626
00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:29,971
♪ Following a pack of wild geese ♪
627
00:31:32,557 --> 00:31:37,562
♪ Someday
Everything is gonna be beautiful ♪
628
00:31:38,938 --> 00:31:45,069
♪ When I paint that masterpiece ♪
629
00:31:46,112 --> 00:31:48,615
♪ When I paint ♪
630
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:56,122
♪ That masterpiece ♪
631
00:31:57,248 --> 00:32:01,210
[audience cheers]
632
00:32:04,088 --> 00:32:06,132
[interviewer]
Any idea why he would wear a mask?
633
00:32:06,215 --> 00:32:09,469
[chuckles] Are you being funny? [laughs]
634
00:32:09,552 --> 00:32:11,304
[interviewer]
Well, it was kind of a leading question.
635
00:32:11,387 --> 00:32:13,765
Yeah, okay.
Well, get to the point. [chuckles]
636
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:17,518
We didn't have enough masks on that tour.
637
00:32:19,354 --> 00:32:21,356
We should have had masks for everybody.
638
00:32:21,773 --> 00:32:23,483
When somebody's wearing a mask,
639
00:32:23,608 --> 00:32:25,610
uh, he's gonna tell you the truth.
640
00:32:26,402 --> 00:32:27,236
Uh...
641
00:32:27,612 --> 00:32:30,406
when he's not wearing a mask,
it's highly unlikely.
642
00:32:30,823 --> 00:32:33,242
[TV announcer speaking Dutch]
Shocking Blue!
643
00:32:33,576 --> 00:32:35,328
["Venus" playing]
644
00:32:38,456 --> 00:32:41,125
♪ Her weapons were her crystal eyes ♪
645
00:32:42,210 --> 00:32:44,420
♪ Making every man mad ♪
646
00:32:45,838 --> 00:32:48,091
[van Dorp] I'd been filming Shocking Blue.
647
00:32:48,424 --> 00:32:50,927
Their song "Venus" was
at the top of the charts.
648
00:32:51,427 --> 00:32:53,471
-Wow!
-[van Dorp] And we needed more footage.
649
00:32:53,846 --> 00:32:55,932
And at the time, I liked psychedelics.
650
00:32:56,432 --> 00:32:58,977
Oh, LSD was my drug of choice.
651
00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:01,729
You know, it was trans-- transformative.
652
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,067
And I filmed a lot of newspeople
and things from the TV,
653
00:33:06,150 --> 00:33:09,070
like camera right on the TV,
like kinescoped,
654
00:33:09,153 --> 00:33:12,407
and I cut these serious things,
these speeches, with the rock 'n' roll.
655
00:33:12,615 --> 00:33:15,076
♪ A goddess on a mountaintop ♪
656
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:18,746
♪ Was burning like a silver flame ♪
657
00:33:19,622 --> 00:33:21,374
♪ Well, I'm your Venus ♪
658
00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:26,421
-♪ I'm your fire at your desire ♪
-[van Dorp] It was brood en spelen, uh...
659
00:33:26,504 --> 00:33:28,506
You know, like, "bread and circus."
660
00:33:29,340 --> 00:33:31,676
I made an indictment of popular culture.
661
00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:35,138
I called it "Burning Like A Silver Flame."
662
00:33:35,930 --> 00:33:38,057
It played the local art film circuit,
663
00:33:38,516 --> 00:33:41,394
uh, and it started to have
a life of its own.
664
00:33:41,644 --> 00:33:44,522
Um, later, when I won
the Heinrich Greif Award,
665
00:33:44,605 --> 00:33:45,982
America came calling.
666
00:33:46,441 --> 00:33:48,943
[slow jazz music playing]
667
00:34:05,334 --> 00:34:06,377
[older Dylan] Van Dorp,
668
00:34:06,753 --> 00:34:08,504
I hadn't even heard of him before,
669
00:34:09,422 --> 00:34:11,382
but, uh, he seemed like an okay guy.
670
00:34:11,549 --> 00:34:12,925
I liked his film history.
671
00:34:13,342 --> 00:34:17,597
He did some film work
at Madame Tussauds Wax Museum.
672
00:34:18,514 --> 00:34:21,517
His idea was to, uh, make this film...
673
00:34:22,226 --> 00:34:26,230
appear to be like old newsreels
we used to see at movie theaters...
674
00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:27,774
growing up,
675
00:34:28,691 --> 00:34:30,610
which I thought was a splendid idea.
676
00:34:30,985 --> 00:34:31,944
[audience cheers]
677
00:34:32,028 --> 00:34:35,198
Van Dorp, I wanted to tell you something.
[chuckles]
678
00:34:37,158 --> 00:34:41,954
I thought Sam would be perfect
for van Dorp to, uh, collaborate with,
679
00:34:42,538 --> 00:34:46,501
because Sam's got
that special knowledge of the underworld
680
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,379
that van Dorp didn't seem
to have a clue about.
681
00:34:51,798 --> 00:34:54,509
I think I asked him once,
"Sam, how you write all those plays?"
682
00:34:54,592 --> 00:34:55,551
And he said...
683
00:34:56,385 --> 00:34:57,553
"Man," he said,
684
00:34:59,222 --> 00:35:01,057
"it's like I commune with the dead."
685
00:35:02,975 --> 00:35:04,268
I said, "Yeah, yeah,
686
00:35:04,811 --> 00:35:08,231
uh, you'd have to
to write plays like that."
687
00:35:08,773 --> 00:35:11,651
And I asked him if he wanted to, uh,
write for, uh,
688
00:35:12,485 --> 00:35:15,029
this movie
that this guy van Dorp was making.
689
00:35:15,321 --> 00:35:20,576
And he went to meet with van Dorp,
and then he came back, and he said, uh...
690
00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:22,787
he didn't know where the guy
was coming from,
691
00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:25,081
but if I wanted him to do it, he would.
692
00:35:25,164 --> 00:35:27,583
So, that's how Sam got involved.
693
00:35:28,167 --> 00:35:30,419
I was living
in Homestead Valley, California,
694
00:35:31,045 --> 00:35:35,758
running a horse boarding farm. [laughs]
695
00:35:36,801 --> 00:35:40,888
It was a little bit unclear
what-- what exactly he wanted me to do.
696
00:35:40,972 --> 00:35:44,100
I was like a screenwriter
or writer for hire, you know.
697
00:35:44,183 --> 00:35:46,561
So, sure. So, I joined up.
698
00:35:47,353 --> 00:35:50,898
I was just kind of there for the ride,
basically,
699
00:35:50,982 --> 00:35:52,859
and-- and as an observer
700
00:35:52,942 --> 00:35:57,238
and trying to make sense of something,
you know.
701
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,704
[Shepard] New England was just
experiencing the backbone
702
00:36:04,787 --> 00:36:06,789
of that economic fallout,
703
00:36:06,873 --> 00:36:10,376
you know, way back then,
it was, you know, desolate...
704
00:36:10,668 --> 00:36:13,838
Uh, really,
really difficult economic times, you know.
705
00:36:13,921 --> 00:36:17,341
People suffering behind that, you know.
706
00:36:17,425 --> 00:36:18,342
[rhythmic clapping]
707
00:36:18,426 --> 00:36:21,179
[Shepard]
Rock 'n' roll was some kind of, a...
708
00:36:21,345 --> 00:36:23,181
I don't know, a kind of medicine
or something.
709
00:36:23,264 --> 00:36:25,057
[van Dorp] Do you have tickets
for the concert?
710
00:36:25,141 --> 00:36:27,185
-[both] Yeah.
-[teen] How come he's coming here?
711
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,896
I know, how come he picked
such a small place?
712
00:36:29,979 --> 00:36:32,773
Tickets are on sale at the collis--
the little Plymouth auditorium.
713
00:36:32,857 --> 00:36:34,942
[teens speaking indistinctly]
714
00:36:35,401 --> 00:36:37,737
[interviewer] Wasn't that the year
of the bicentennial, also?
715
00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:39,697
[Shepard] The bicentennial,
716
00:36:39,822 --> 00:36:41,490
particularly in the little towns,
you know,
717
00:36:41,574 --> 00:36:43,034
they didn't give a shit, you know.
718
00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:45,453
"What is the bicen--" [chuckles]
You know what I mean?
719
00:36:45,536 --> 00:36:49,123
They-- They certainly weren't celebrating
the-- the birth of America. You know?
720
00:36:49,457 --> 00:36:52,043
-[man] We love you, Bobby!
-[woman] Yeah!
721
00:36:52,460 --> 00:36:54,420
-[acoustic guitar playing]
-[audience cheers]
722
00:36:54,503 --> 00:36:58,424
[Baez and Dylan]
♪ How many roads must a man walk down ♪
723
00:36:58,507 --> 00:36:59,634
[audience cheers]
724
00:36:59,717 --> 00:37:02,470
♪ Before you call him a man? ♪
725
00:37:04,055 --> 00:37:07,850
♪ How many seas must a white dove sail ♪
726
00:37:08,768 --> 00:37:11,854
♪ Before she sleeps in the sand? ♪
727
00:37:13,481 --> 00:37:17,485
♪ How many times
Must the cannonballs fly ♪
728
00:37:18,110 --> 00:37:20,947
♪ Before they're forever banned? ♪
729
00:37:22,365 --> 00:37:24,492
♪ The answer, my friend ♪
730
00:37:24,575 --> 00:37:26,702
♪ Is blowin' in the wind ♪
731
00:37:26,953 --> 00:37:30,164
♪ The answer is blowin' in the wind ♪
732
00:37:30,248 --> 00:37:32,250
[audience cheers]
733
00:37:33,042 --> 00:37:38,130
[Shepard] It always had this feeling of--
of almost a circus atmosphere,
734
00:37:38,547 --> 00:37:40,049
a dog and pony show sort of thing.
735
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,885
It's the first song
I ever heard Woody Guthrie sing
736
00:37:42,969 --> 00:37:44,470
on a little radio station.
737
00:37:44,553 --> 00:37:45,554
[strumming guitar]
738
00:37:45,638 --> 00:37:47,056
He was telling a story...
739
00:37:49,267 --> 00:37:52,436
about traveling across the country
on freight trains,
740
00:37:52,812 --> 00:37:54,480
and he had a fiddle with him...
741
00:37:56,399 --> 00:37:58,317
in a violin case.
742
00:37:59,819 --> 00:38:01,654
Every time the train would stop,
743
00:38:02,738 --> 00:38:06,784
police would come on and look through,
they'd see him with that violin case...
744
00:38:09,412 --> 00:38:10,538
make him open it up,
745
00:38:12,248 --> 00:38:13,374
and look inside.
746
00:38:14,208 --> 00:38:15,960
They was looking for an outlaw...
747
00:38:17,044 --> 00:38:18,754
named Pretty Boy Floyd,
748
00:38:19,505 --> 00:38:23,050
who was also traveling with a violin case.
749
00:38:29,056 --> 00:38:35,771
♪ If you'll gather 'round me, children ♪
750
00:38:38,065 --> 00:38:43,529
♪ A story I will tell
About Pretty Boy Floyd, an outlaw ♪
751
00:38:46,032 --> 00:38:48,617
♪ Oklahoma knew him well ♪
752
00:38:51,037 --> 00:38:53,456
[man] I do recall sort of looking over,
753
00:38:53,539 --> 00:38:57,168
from a distance, Jack Elliott's shoulder
as he did his solo set.
754
00:38:58,210 --> 00:39:00,379
You know, that was something
so new to me, and...
755
00:39:01,589 --> 00:39:02,757
gee, it seemed so authentic,
756
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,511
I had no idea he was, you know,
a Jewish dentist's son from Brooklyn.
757
00:39:07,845 --> 00:39:10,806
You know, you could've knocked me over
with a feather when I found that out.
758
00:39:10,931 --> 00:39:13,142
[Neuwirth] Ramblin' Jack!
Take a bow, Jack.
759
00:39:14,018 --> 00:39:15,353
[audience cheers]
760
00:39:16,103 --> 00:39:18,105
[Neuwirth] I got another friend
for you to meet now.
761
00:39:18,189 --> 00:39:20,107
[audience continues cheering]
762
00:39:22,610 --> 00:39:25,654
["It Takes a Lot to Laugh,
It Takes a Train to Cry" playing]
763
00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:32,536
[Shepard] They-- They had an entity
about them, you know.
764
00:39:32,912 --> 00:39:34,497
It wasn't stardom.
765
00:39:34,580 --> 00:39:35,915
It wasn't people were looking at,
766
00:39:35,998 --> 00:39:37,792
"Oh, there's Dylan and there's Joan Baez."
767
00:39:37,875 --> 00:39:39,585
No, they were looking at a band.
768
00:39:40,086 --> 00:39:42,171
♪ Well, I ride on a mailtrain, baby ♪
769
00:39:43,047 --> 00:39:45,299
♪ Can't buy a thrill ♪
770
00:39:48,511 --> 00:39:50,805
♪ I been up all night, baby ♪
771
00:39:51,013 --> 00:39:53,557
♪ Leanin' on a windowsill ♪
772
00:39:56,977 --> 00:39:59,563
[man] Once again, good night
on behalf of the Rolling Thunder Revue.
773
00:39:59,647 --> 00:40:01,899
We thank you for coming. Good night.
Go in peace.
774
00:40:02,024 --> 00:40:04,026
[audience applauds and cheers]
775
00:40:11,534 --> 00:40:13,536
[crowd chatters]
776
00:40:18,416 --> 00:40:20,418
[inaudible sobs]
777
00:40:27,133 --> 00:40:28,884
[Shepard] And particularly
with those songs
778
00:40:28,968 --> 00:40:32,847
that had this kind of saga element
about 'em, you know,
779
00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:37,101
it had a rejuvenating effect, I think,
you know, it was very exhilarating.
780
00:40:37,268 --> 00:40:42,773
It was a feeling of exhilaration,
of-- of-- of being alive.
781
00:40:43,107 --> 00:40:45,943
It... That sounds corny, but it's true,
you know.
782
00:40:47,278 --> 00:40:48,821
[Shepard] Take, uh, Shakespeare, Will.
783
00:40:48,904 --> 00:40:52,158
[laughing] He grew up
in, uh, uh, Stratford-on-Avon,
784
00:40:52,241 --> 00:40:54,702
you know, where the...
where these rivers cross,
785
00:40:54,785 --> 00:40:57,872
and it was on the way outskirts of London.
786
00:40:58,330 --> 00:41:01,208
And these troubadours and vagabonds
787
00:41:01,292 --> 00:41:07,131
and carnival people from all over
were coming into London to perform.
788
00:41:07,506 --> 00:41:10,426
And they would stop at this crossroads
of these rivers.
789
00:41:10,509 --> 00:41:15,139
And as a kid, he's seeing this,
and then he writes those fucking plays.
790
00:41:15,473 --> 00:41:17,183
[laughing] You know?
791
00:41:18,517 --> 00:41:20,436
That's... extraordinary.
792
00:41:20,728 --> 00:41:23,564
You know,
that somebody is charged up like that
793
00:41:23,647 --> 00:41:26,692
from something passing
through their lives, you know.
794
00:41:26,942 --> 00:41:29,445
-[van Dorp] Let me ask you a question.
-[man] Sure.
795
00:41:30,488 --> 00:41:32,865
[van Dorp]
What were you gonna do on Halloween night?
796
00:41:33,032 --> 00:41:35,117
What was I gonna do on Halloween night?
797
00:41:35,868 --> 00:41:37,328
Just get a buzz on.
798
00:41:37,411 --> 00:41:38,913
[man 2 laughs]
799
00:41:39,413 --> 00:41:40,664
Nothing else to do.
800
00:41:41,499 --> 00:41:43,250
Yep, just party.
801
00:41:43,417 --> 00:41:45,961
["A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall" playing]
802
00:41:47,796 --> 00:41:50,841
♪ Where have you been
My blue-eyed son? ♪
803
00:41:51,550 --> 00:41:54,929
♪ Where have you been
My darling young one? ♪
804
00:41:57,598 --> 00:42:01,185
♪ I've stumbled on the side
Of twelve misty mountains ♪
805
00:42:01,685 --> 00:42:05,397
♪ Walked and I've crawled
On six crooked highways ♪
806
00:42:05,481 --> 00:42:08,484
♪ Been in the middle
Of seven sad forests ♪
807
00:42:09,068 --> 00:42:12,279
♪ Been out in front
Of a dozen dead oceans ♪
808
00:42:12,363 --> 00:42:15,449
♪ Been ten thousand miles
In the mouth of a graveyard ♪
809
00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:16,617
♪ And it's a hard ♪
810
00:42:17,368 --> 00:42:18,911
♪ And it's a hard ♪
811
00:42:18,994 --> 00:42:20,454
♪ Well, it's a hard ♪
812
00:42:21,121 --> 00:42:22,456
♪ And it's a hard ♪
813
00:42:22,873 --> 00:42:25,876
♪ Well, it's a hard rain gonna fall ♪
814
00:42:29,213 --> 00:42:32,424
♪ What did you see
My blue-eyed son? ♪
815
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,637
♪ What did you see
My darling young one? ♪
816
00:42:38,722 --> 00:42:41,934
♪ Saw a newborn baby
With wild wolves all around it ♪
817
00:42:42,393 --> 00:42:45,604
♪ I saw a highway of diamonds
With nobody on it ♪
818
00:42:46,063 --> 00:42:49,233
♪ Saw a black branch
With blood that kept drippin' ♪
819
00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:52,820
♪ Saw a room full of men
With their hammers bleedin' ♪
820
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,365
♪ Saw a white ladder
Covered in water ♪
821
00:42:56,699 --> 00:43:00,202
♪ Saw ten thousand talkers
Whose tongues are all broken ♪
822
00:43:00,619 --> 00:43:03,581
♪ Guns and sharp swords
In the hands of young children ♪
823
00:43:03,664 --> 00:43:04,873
♪ And it's a hard ♪
824
00:43:05,541 --> 00:43:06,834
♪ Well, it's a hard ♪
825
00:43:07,376 --> 00:43:08,669
♪ Well, it's a hard ♪
826
00:43:09,253 --> 00:43:10,629
♪ And it's a hard ♪
827
00:43:10,963 --> 00:43:13,924
♪ Oh, it's a hard rain gonna fall ♪
828
00:43:17,303 --> 00:43:20,180
♪ What did you hear
My blue-eyed son? ♪
829
00:43:20,889 --> 00:43:24,310
♪ What did you hear
My darling young one? ♪
830
00:43:26,770 --> 00:43:29,982
♪ Heard the sound of a thunder
That roared out a warnin' ♪
831
00:43:30,399 --> 00:43:33,819
♪ Heard the roar of a wave
Could drown the whole world ♪
832
00:43:34,278 --> 00:43:37,448
♪ One person starved
I heard many people laughin' ♪
833
00:43:37,781 --> 00:43:41,076
♪ Heard the song of a poet
Who died in the gutter ♪
834
00:43:41,327 --> 00:43:44,538
♪ Heard the sound of a clown
Crying in the alley ♪
835
00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:46,165
-♪ And it's a hard ♪
-[man] Yeah!
836
00:43:46,248 --> 00:43:47,708
♪ And it's a hard ♪
837
00:43:48,083 --> 00:43:49,585
♪ And it's a hard ♪
838
00:43:49,918 --> 00:43:51,295
♪ Well, it's a hard ♪
839
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:54,798
♪ And it's a hard rain gonna fall ♪
840
00:43:57,801 --> 00:44:00,888
♪ Who did you meet
My blue-eyed son? ♪
841
00:44:01,472 --> 00:44:06,060
♪ Who did you meet
My darling young one? ♪
842
00:44:07,603 --> 00:44:10,439
♪ Met a young child
Beside a dead pony ♪
843
00:44:10,981 --> 00:44:14,109
♪ Met a white man
Who walked a black dog ♪
844
00:44:14,568 --> 00:44:17,613
♪ Met one woman
Whose body was burning ♪
845
00:44:17,988 --> 00:44:21,241
♪ Met a young girl
She gave me a rainbow ♪
846
00:44:21,450 --> 00:44:24,995
♪ I met one man
Wounded in love ♪
847
00:44:25,162 --> 00:44:28,123
♪ Met another man
Wounded in hatred ♪
848
00:44:28,207 --> 00:44:29,416
♪ And it's a hard ♪
849
00:44:29,875 --> 00:44:31,251
♪ Well, it's a hard ♪
850
00:44:31,669 --> 00:44:33,170
♪ Well, it's a hard ♪
851
00:44:33,420 --> 00:44:34,963
♪ And it's a hard ♪
852
00:44:35,255 --> 00:44:38,217
♪ And it's a hard rain gonna fall ♪
853
00:45:09,873 --> 00:45:12,835
♪ What'll you do now
My blue-eyed son? ♪
854
00:45:13,419 --> 00:45:17,047
♪ What'll you do now
My darling young one? ♪
855
00:45:19,174 --> 00:45:22,428
♪ I'm goin' back out
When the rain starts a-fallin' ♪
856
00:45:22,886 --> 00:45:25,889
♪ Walk to the depths
Of the deepest dark forest ♪
857
00:45:26,140 --> 00:45:29,393
♪ Where the people are many
And their hands are all empty ♪
858
00:45:29,643 --> 00:45:33,105
♪ Where the pellets of poison
Are flooding their waters ♪
859
00:45:33,188 --> 00:45:36,525
♪ Where the home in the valley
Meets the damp, dirty prison ♪
860
00:45:36,608 --> 00:45:40,028
♪ Where the executioner's face
Is always well-hidden ♪
861
00:45:40,112 --> 00:45:43,699
♪ Where the hunger is ugly
Where souls are forgotten ♪
862
00:45:43,782 --> 00:45:47,077
♪ Where black is the color
None is the number ♪
863
00:45:47,369 --> 00:45:50,706
♪ And I'll tell it and think it
And speak it and breathe it ♪
864
00:45:50,956 --> 00:45:54,460
♪ Reflect from the mountain
So all souls can see it ♪
865
00:45:54,543 --> 00:45:57,629
♪ Then I'll stand on the ocean
Until I start sinkin' ♪
866
00:45:57,838 --> 00:46:01,049
♪ But I'll know my song well
Before I start singin' ♪
867
00:46:01,133 --> 00:46:02,176
♪ And it's a hard ♪
868
00:46:02,676 --> 00:46:04,261
♪ And it's a hard ♪
869
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:05,971
♪ Well, it's a hard ♪
870
00:46:06,305 --> 00:46:07,723
♪ And it's a hard ♪
871
00:46:08,015 --> 00:46:10,559
♪ It's a hard rain gonna fall ♪
872
00:46:35,292 --> 00:46:36,376
[audience cheering]
873
00:46:36,460 --> 00:46:38,462
[indistinct chatter]
874
00:46:43,759 --> 00:46:47,513
[men chanting Om]
875
00:46:49,598 --> 00:46:51,099
-[Dylan on phone] Hello?
-[Sloman] Bob?
876
00:46:51,183 --> 00:46:52,309
-[Dylan] Yeah.
-This is Larry.
877
00:46:52,392 --> 00:46:54,520
-[Dylan] Larry, how you doing?
-You got a minute?
878
00:46:54,603 --> 00:46:56,605
[Sloman] I gotta do a story in an hour,
879
00:46:56,688 --> 00:46:59,107
and I just need
about two or three paragraphs.
880
00:47:00,108 --> 00:47:01,276
-[Dylan] Okay.
-Are you up?
881
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,611
[Dylan] Yeah, sort of.
882
00:47:02,694 --> 00:47:04,696
-[indistinct chatter]
-[trumpet playing]
883
00:47:08,075 --> 00:47:10,702
[Sloman] What do you-- Why don't you
just talk about the music, okay?
884
00:47:10,786 --> 00:47:11,995
[Dylan] What do you wanna know?
885
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:14,164
[Sloman] I've never seen you
so fuckin' great onstage.
886
00:47:14,248 --> 00:47:16,542
I've never seen you so loose. How come?
887
00:47:17,543 --> 00:47:20,712
[Dylan] Jesus Christ, you really got me
early in the morning, I can't even think.
888
00:47:20,796 --> 00:47:22,464
-[Sloman laughs]
-[Dylan] Uh...
889
00:47:22,756 --> 00:47:25,634
[Dylan] Well, it's just the element
I work best in, you know?
890
00:47:25,884 --> 00:47:27,344
You seen those Italian...
891
00:47:27,427 --> 00:47:29,555
those Italian troupes
that go around in Italy,
892
00:47:29,638 --> 00:47:31,557
-those Italian street theaters...
-[Sloman] Yeah.
893
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,142
[Dylan] The wagon, the wagon troupes,
Commedia dell'arte?
894
00:47:34,226 --> 00:47:35,269
[Sloman] Yeah, right.
895
00:47:35,352 --> 00:47:37,813
[Dylan] This is kind of an extension
of that, only musically.
896
00:47:37,896 --> 00:47:39,857
-[Sloman] Music Commedia dell'arte?
-[Dylan] Yeah.
897
00:47:39,940 --> 00:47:40,816
[girl 1] Come on, Red!
898
00:47:40,941 --> 00:47:42,067
[girl 2] Riva!
899
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:43,610
-[girl 1] Jane!
-[girl 2] Jane!
900
00:47:44,194 --> 00:47:45,487
[girl 1] Get it, Merty!
901
00:47:45,737 --> 00:47:48,115
[man] If somebody told you Bob Dylan
was coming to Providence,
902
00:47:48,198 --> 00:47:51,034
you probably wouldn't believe them,
but he is, along with Joan Baez,
903
00:47:51,118 --> 00:47:53,203
Ramblin' Jack Elliott, and Bob Neuwirth,
904
00:47:53,745 --> 00:47:58,083
and it's called the Rolling Thunder Revue
at the Providence Civic Center, Tuesday...
905
00:47:58,500 --> 00:48:00,002
[Gianopulos] You'd book the venues,
906
00:48:00,085 --> 00:48:02,421
make deals with each
of the local promoters,
907
00:48:02,713 --> 00:48:04,464
and then you'd show up.
908
00:48:04,882 --> 00:48:07,092
And, you know,
you'd have a deal for the gate.
909
00:48:07,175 --> 00:48:08,427
And, you know,
910
00:48:08,510 --> 00:48:10,512
hopefully everything would go out,
would go well,
911
00:48:10,596 --> 00:48:12,014
and everybody'd make a little money.
912
00:48:12,097 --> 00:48:14,308
Hey, man, it wasn't your door
and you weren't invited.
913
00:48:14,391 --> 00:48:17,102
-Hey, don't yell at me, all right?
-Oh, I am yelling at ya.
914
00:48:17,185 --> 00:48:18,979
-[scoffs] Okay.
-Go get your cop,
915
00:48:19,062 --> 00:48:20,647
-so you can get some fuckin' help.
-Okay.
916
00:48:20,731 --> 00:48:23,483
[Gianopulos] The overall promoter
was a longtime friend of Bob's
917
00:48:23,567 --> 00:48:24,484
and a fishmonger.
918
00:48:24,568 --> 00:48:26,486
I mean, he never had managed
a tour before,
919
00:48:26,570 --> 00:48:27,821
let alone one of this size.
920
00:48:28,363 --> 00:48:30,324
It's bad for your, uh,
high blood pressure.
921
00:48:30,407 --> 00:48:32,492
-Yeah, okay.
-Bad for your high blood pressure.
922
00:48:32,576 --> 00:48:34,703
-Read him some poetry, Allen.
-Anything you wanna say...
923
00:48:34,786 --> 00:48:36,830
So he was out of his element
and underprepared,
924
00:48:36,914 --> 00:48:38,332
and he wasn't very well-liked on the tour.
925
00:48:38,874 --> 00:48:42,127
Then tell him the ushers left.
Tell him-- Tell him we're framing it.
926
00:48:42,419 --> 00:48:43,921
-[van Dorp] Hi, Barry.
-Nice.
927
00:48:45,631 --> 00:48:48,300
[Gianopulos] This guy, Barry Imhoff,
was his second-in-command,
928
00:48:48,383 --> 00:48:50,093
and he'd worked for Bill Graham for years,
929
00:48:50,177 --> 00:48:52,095
but just prior to Rolling Thunder
930
00:48:52,179 --> 00:48:54,598
had got out on his own
and started Zebra Productions.
931
00:48:54,681 --> 00:48:58,268
And this was one of, you know,
if not exactly, his first tour.
932
00:48:58,352 --> 00:49:00,395
[interviewer] What kind of jobs
would the promoter do?
933
00:49:00,479 --> 00:49:02,773
[Gianopulos]
I did whatever needed to get done.
934
00:49:03,023 --> 00:49:05,525
So one day, you're delivering pizza
to the band,
935
00:49:05,817 --> 00:49:06,777
and the next day,
936
00:49:06,860 --> 00:49:09,237
I'm... got a bag full of $15,000,
937
00:49:09,321 --> 00:49:11,740
and I'm walking through a parking lot
looking over my shoulder,
938
00:49:11,823 --> 00:49:14,076
thinking everybody knows
exactly what I'm doing.
939
00:49:14,284 --> 00:49:17,329
Well, you did what you had to do.
Some things we don't talk about.
940
00:49:18,288 --> 00:49:20,290
[indistinct chatter]
941
00:49:21,208 --> 00:49:24,044
[woman] My mom wanted to go see this tour.
942
00:49:24,628 --> 00:49:28,840
Now, you know, nobody wants
to go to a concert with their mom.
943
00:49:29,341 --> 00:49:32,177
[laughs]
Especially when they're 19 years old.
944
00:49:32,844 --> 00:49:36,682
So, rebelliously,
I-- I wore a Kiss T-shirt.
945
00:49:37,432 --> 00:49:40,560
So, I don't know which one of us
was more embarrassed,
946
00:49:40,644 --> 00:49:42,646
whether it was me or my mom.
947
00:49:42,729 --> 00:49:44,648
And we went to this concert.
948
00:49:45,148 --> 00:49:46,608
We're trying to get in,
949
00:49:47,150 --> 00:49:49,069
and the guy's giving us
kind of a hard time
950
00:49:49,152 --> 00:49:52,239
and looking at our tickets and the thing,
and we can't get in...
951
00:49:52,364 --> 00:49:55,075
And then, this guy comes walking up,
952
00:49:56,243 --> 00:49:58,829
and he doesn't have tickets,
and he tries to get in.
953
00:49:58,912 --> 00:50:00,664
And the cop at the door
is not letting him in,
954
00:50:00,747 --> 00:50:01,957
and not letting him in.
955
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,376
And so, finally, like, a bunch of people
come out,
956
00:50:04,459 --> 00:50:07,212
and they get Bob,
and Bob turns around and he's like...
957
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,466
And I'm just like this...
And my mom's like, "Come on."
958
00:50:11,550 --> 00:50:13,343
And I don't wanna, "come on,"
959
00:50:13,635 --> 00:50:17,431
but my mother pushes us through,
and so we go in with Bob, and, um...
960
00:50:17,848 --> 00:50:19,891
Bob turned around and he saw my shirt,
961
00:50:20,726 --> 00:50:21,768
and he was like,
962
00:50:22,561 --> 00:50:23,603
"Do you like them?"
963
00:50:23,979 --> 00:50:26,398
And then I realized he wanted
to talk about Kiss.
964
00:50:26,565 --> 00:50:29,860
I think I was trying to--
to sound like I was...
965
00:50:30,694 --> 00:50:32,738
smart, and so I started saying,
966
00:50:32,821 --> 00:50:37,617
"Well, you know, I think that they paint
their faces in this Kabuki style."
967
00:50:37,993 --> 00:50:38,827
And he said,
968
00:50:38,910 --> 00:50:43,248
"Oh, I bet Okuni never spit blood
into the audience." [laughs]
969
00:50:43,540 --> 00:50:46,084
And I was like, "Okuni?"
970
00:50:46,418 --> 00:50:48,837
And he's like, "Izumo no Okuni."
971
00:50:49,296 --> 00:50:50,672
Oh, and that's, you know,
972
00:50:50,756 --> 00:50:53,008
it's one of the guys who started,
uh, Kabuki.
973
00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:54,134
So...
974
00:50:54,342 --> 00:50:58,597
[Kiss] ♪ I wanna rock and roll all night ♪
975
00:50:59,473 --> 00:51:01,266
♪ And party every day ♪
976
00:51:01,349 --> 00:51:04,853
♪ I wanna rock and roll all night ♪
977
00:51:05,771 --> 00:51:07,564
♪ And party every day ♪
978
00:51:07,647 --> 00:51:10,817
♪ I wanna rock and roll all night ♪
979
00:51:10,901 --> 00:51:12,319
[Paul Stanley] I can't hear you!
980
00:51:12,402 --> 00:51:13,779
[Kiss] ♪ And party every day ♪
981
00:51:13,862 --> 00:51:15,947
♪ I wanna rock and roll... ♪
982
00:51:16,031 --> 00:51:18,033
[older Dylan]
Scarlet Rivera was some piece of work.
983
00:51:18,116 --> 00:51:21,369
Most people'd kind of stay away
from Scarlet, but, uh, not me.
984
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,750
Her boyfriend at the time
was the leader of Kiss.
985
00:51:28,085 --> 00:51:30,170
And she took me over to Queens
to see them play.
986
00:51:31,088 --> 00:51:34,007
They were playing in a small club.
They had face paint on,
987
00:51:34,091 --> 00:51:35,967
and I thought that was
kind of interesting.
988
00:51:37,302 --> 00:51:39,096
I kind of filed that away somewhere.
989
00:51:39,429 --> 00:51:41,014
[Paul Stanley] Clap your hands!
990
00:51:41,515 --> 00:51:45,977
[Kiss] ♪ I wanna rock and roll all night ♪
991
00:51:46,061 --> 00:51:47,604
[yelling in French]
992
00:51:50,065 --> 00:51:53,860
Yeah, I remember a lot of things.
They-- They said I had a wonderful time.
993
00:51:53,944 --> 00:51:56,238
[laughs] I think I did.
994
00:51:56,655 --> 00:51:58,824
They said every time
we used to do any interviews,
995
00:51:58,907 --> 00:52:02,160
all they wanted to know was,
"Ronnie, we wanna hear about the orgies."
996
00:52:02,327 --> 00:52:03,370
I said, "Orgies?"
997
00:52:03,453 --> 00:52:06,164
I said, "God damn, we never had
any orgies. That sounds nasty as hell."
998
00:52:06,248 --> 00:52:10,752
I said, "We might have had 14 or 15 people
in love a time or two, but no orgies."
999
00:52:10,836 --> 00:52:11,670
[laughs]
1000
00:52:12,546 --> 00:52:13,505
Look who's here.
1001
00:52:14,172 --> 00:52:15,006
[man] Yo, man.
1002
00:52:15,549 --> 00:52:17,592
[older Dylan] Well, Ronnie Hawkins, now,
1003
00:52:17,676 --> 00:52:21,429
he looked like a shitkicker,
but he spoke with the wisdom of a sage.
1004
00:52:22,556 --> 00:52:23,515
He was like a...
1005
00:52:24,724 --> 00:52:25,642
a...
1006
00:52:27,102 --> 00:52:28,395
gladiator or something...
1007
00:52:29,020 --> 00:52:30,605
that wrestled and raced
1008
00:52:30,689 --> 00:52:33,900
in, uh, in--
in some nondescript Roman arena.
1009
00:52:34,276 --> 00:52:35,110
Uh...
1010
00:52:35,193 --> 00:52:38,071
you expected Ronnie to, uh,
to wear a toga...
1011
00:52:40,699 --> 00:52:42,367
instead of that ratty cowboy hat.
1012
00:52:43,493 --> 00:52:45,787
-[interviewer] Remember Scarlet Rivera?
-[Hawkins] Oh, yeah.
1013
00:52:45,871 --> 00:52:47,998
She fell in love with my rhythm man
1014
00:52:48,081 --> 00:52:49,541
from my band, Scarlet did.
1015
00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:54,087
Yeah, they put on some interesting shows
there, up there in my room.
1016
00:52:54,421 --> 00:52:56,423
[laughs]
1017
00:52:57,424 --> 00:52:59,843
I think I narrated a couple of 'em.
I'm not sure.
1018
00:53:00,343 --> 00:53:03,054
But, uh, yeah, she was something else...
wore a sword.
1019
00:53:03,847 --> 00:53:05,682
She had--
She wore a sword everywhere she went,
1020
00:53:05,765 --> 00:53:06,808
that girl, so I didn't...
1021
00:53:06,892 --> 00:53:09,728
I was a little bit uneasy
about trying to slip her out,
1022
00:53:10,145 --> 00:53:12,939
'cause, boy, if you didn't satisfy her,
she's liable to stab you.
1023
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:15,192
[Spanish guitar playing]
1024
00:53:16,401 --> 00:53:17,652
[older Dylan] She was unusual.
1025
00:53:17,736 --> 00:53:20,572
I went to her room once,
and there was a box of stuff.
1026
00:53:21,156 --> 00:53:24,701
Like, chains and mirrors...
1027
00:53:25,535 --> 00:53:26,661
candelabras and...
1028
00:53:27,996 --> 00:53:29,164
She had swords.
1029
00:53:29,831 --> 00:53:30,832
She had a snake.
1030
00:53:31,499 --> 00:53:32,375
Just, uh...
1031
00:53:32,876 --> 00:53:35,670
many things in... in a trunk.
1032
00:53:37,130 --> 00:53:40,800
And, uh, that told me more about her
than anything she had to say.
1033
00:53:42,260 --> 00:53:44,221
["One More Cup of Coffee"
playing on violin]
1034
00:53:44,304 --> 00:53:45,639
[older Dylan] She didn't say much.
1035
00:53:47,515 --> 00:53:48,892
But she didn't have to.
1036
00:53:51,353 --> 00:53:55,398
-[van Dorp] What's that?
-[Rivera] This? This is my friend.
1037
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,445
He keeps me company while I play.
1038
00:54:00,946 --> 00:54:03,573
He's playing the dance beyond his limits.
1039
00:54:05,325 --> 00:54:07,827
Something that most people
would say is impossible.
1040
00:54:09,162 --> 00:54:13,375
But artists like to challenge
the impossible, I guess.
1041
00:54:14,292 --> 00:54:17,045
[Rivera] That's why we wear
the makeup we wear, I guess, too.
1042
00:54:19,506 --> 00:54:21,883
[van Dorp] It's a striking image
you have onstage.
1043
00:54:24,094 --> 00:54:26,596
Mr. Tambourine Man gives us
the opportunity
1044
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,307
to be whoever we wish to be. [laughs]
1045
00:54:29,391 --> 00:54:31,393
[plucking violin]
1046
00:54:31,518 --> 00:54:34,354
-[audience applauds]
-[acoustic guitar playing]
1047
00:54:36,564 --> 00:54:37,691
[Dylan clears throat]
1048
00:54:45,699 --> 00:54:49,035
[Dylan] This, uh, young, beautiful,
young lady over here is Scarlet.
1049
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:50,287
She plays with us, too.
1050
00:54:58,753 --> 00:55:02,090
[speaking Romani language]
1051
00:55:09,639 --> 00:55:14,436
I'd been at the high holy gypsy holiday
at Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer,
1052
00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:15,353
South of France.
1053
00:55:20,442 --> 00:55:23,778
It happens to be on my birthday,
so it was like going home.
1054
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,962
[guitar music continues]
1055
00:55:41,421 --> 00:55:43,006
Manitas de Plata was there,
1056
00:55:43,089 --> 00:55:45,467
and he played all night
along the campfire.
1057
00:55:46,426 --> 00:55:48,219
I mean, he was fantastic.
1058
00:55:49,054 --> 00:55:53,350
And, uh, I stayed up till dawn
just listening to him play.
1059
00:55:54,351 --> 00:55:58,104
["One More Cup of Coffee" playing]
1060
00:56:31,137 --> 00:56:33,932
Some time after that,
couldn't have been more than a week,
1061
00:56:34,474 --> 00:56:37,435
that song came to me in a dream.
1062
00:56:37,894 --> 00:56:39,646
♪ Your breath is sweet ♪
1063
00:56:39,729 --> 00:56:43,274
♪ Your eyes are like
Two jewels in the sky ♪
1064
00:56:45,819 --> 00:56:48,488
♪ Your back is straight
Your hair is smooth ♪
1065
00:56:48,571 --> 00:56:51,366
♪ On the pillow where you lie ♪
1066
00:56:53,159 --> 00:56:56,496
♪ But I don't sense affection ♪
1067
00:56:56,579 --> 00:56:58,415
♪ No gratitude or love ♪
1068
00:57:00,250 --> 00:57:02,877
♪ Your loyalty is not to me ♪
1069
00:57:02,961 --> 00:57:05,839
♪ But to the stars above ♪
1070
00:57:07,132 --> 00:57:11,344
♪ One more cup of coffee for the road ♪
1071
00:57:14,347 --> 00:57:18,685
♪ One more cup of coffee 'fore I go ♪
1072
00:57:20,228 --> 00:57:23,481
♪ To the valley below ♪
1073
00:57:35,827 --> 00:57:39,247
♪ Your daddy, he's an outlaw ♪
1074
00:57:39,330 --> 00:57:41,499
♪ And a wanderer by trade ♪
1075
00:57:43,793 --> 00:57:46,546
♪ He'll teach you how to pick and choose ♪
1076
00:57:46,629 --> 00:57:49,424
♪ And how to throw the blade ♪
1077
00:57:51,342 --> 00:57:53,803
♪ He oversees his kingdom ♪
1078
00:57:54,262 --> 00:57:57,182
♪ So no stranger does intrude ♪
1079
00:57:58,266 --> 00:58:01,519
♪ His voice, it trembles as he calls out ♪
1080
00:58:01,603 --> 00:58:04,063
♪ For another plate of food ♪
1081
00:58:05,356 --> 00:58:09,569
♪ One more cup of coffee for the road ♪
1082
00:58:12,530 --> 00:58:16,659
♪ One more cup of coffee 'fore I go ♪
1083
00:58:18,453 --> 00:58:21,247
♪ To the valley below ♪
1084
00:58:33,801 --> 00:58:37,096
♪ Your sister sees the future ♪
1085
00:58:37,180 --> 00:58:39,224
♪ Like your mama and yourself ♪
1086
00:58:41,643 --> 00:58:44,187
♪ You've never learned to read or write ♪
1087
00:58:44,395 --> 00:58:47,357
♪ There's no books upon your shelf ♪
1088
00:58:48,650 --> 00:58:51,611
♪ And your pleasure knows no limits ♪
1089
00:58:52,028 --> 00:58:54,614
♪ Your voice is like a meadowlark ♪
1090
00:58:55,823 --> 00:58:58,535
♪ But your heart is like an ocean ♪
1091
00:58:58,993 --> 00:59:02,247
♪ Mysterious and dark ♪
1092
00:59:02,956 --> 00:59:07,126
♪ One more cup of coffee for the road ♪
1093
00:59:10,171 --> 00:59:14,634
♪ One more cup of coffee 'fore I go ♪
1094
00:59:16,094 --> 00:59:19,389
♪ To the valley below ♪
1095
00:59:55,633 --> 00:59:59,762
[audience applauds and cheers]
1096
01:00:04,434 --> 01:00:06,811
[van Dorp] Are you used
to going to rock shows?
1097
01:00:08,021 --> 01:00:10,481
No, it's one of the very few I've seen.
1098
01:00:12,233 --> 01:00:16,195
I finally realized, after last night,
I've been missing an awful lot.
1099
01:00:17,530 --> 01:00:19,490
I thought it was
the most unusual occurrence.
1100
01:00:19,574 --> 01:00:21,826
I never-- I never noticed...
1101
01:00:22,577 --> 01:00:24,746
as a-- as a part of an audience,
1102
01:00:26,414 --> 01:00:27,957
I never paid attention to a...
1103
01:00:29,751 --> 01:00:32,837
to a response between an audience
and people on the stage,
1104
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,172
performers onstage.
1105
01:00:34,922 --> 01:00:38,176
That, to me,
was like a show all by itself.
1106
01:00:39,177 --> 01:00:41,804
It was like one battery charging another.
1107
01:00:45,308 --> 01:00:46,309
And...
1108
01:00:47,143 --> 01:00:50,521
you not only could feel the vibes,
you could-- you could almost see them.
1109
01:00:52,774 --> 01:00:53,816
There was a...
1110
01:00:55,860 --> 01:00:58,571
a love affair between the performers
and the audience.
1111
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,204
[Rivera]
Uh, I was thinking about the forces
1112
01:01:06,287 --> 01:01:07,580
that draw people together.
1113
01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:14,295
The magnetism that makes the unit
that's now formed as Rolling Thunder.
1114
01:01:14,837 --> 01:01:15,713
And, uh...
1115
01:01:16,047 --> 01:01:18,716
to me, the future already exists.
1116
01:01:20,009 --> 01:01:22,553
For some people, maybe for everyone.
1117
01:01:25,348 --> 01:01:28,976
It's just a matter
of tuning yourself to it.
1118
01:01:34,065 --> 01:01:38,778
[Ginsberg] "I saw the best minds
of my generation destroyed by madness,
1119
01:01:39,112 --> 01:01:41,698
starving hysterical naked,
1120
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,535
dragging themselves
through the negro streets at dawn
1121
01:01:45,618 --> 01:01:47,745
looking for an angry fix..."
1122
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,457
Allen Ginsberg was a saintlike figure.
1123
01:01:52,208 --> 01:01:55,211
It was like having a...
kinda like a father figure.
1124
01:01:55,294 --> 01:01:56,587
He was always very sober.
1125
01:01:58,005 --> 01:02:01,217
No, Allen Ginsberg
was anything but a father figure.
1126
01:02:02,635 --> 01:02:04,679
He was definitely not a father figure.
1127
01:02:05,221 --> 01:02:06,472
[Mansfield] Allen Ginsberg,
1128
01:02:06,556 --> 01:02:10,184
a guy I really-- I really miss,
of the ones that are gone.
1129
01:02:10,685 --> 01:02:13,855
We became very friendly,
I mean, you know, he-- he...
1130
01:02:14,147 --> 01:02:17,775
I wasn't a bad-looking, you know,
little 19-year-old at the time,
1131
01:02:17,859 --> 01:02:20,403
and he had a thing for straight,
1132
01:02:20,611 --> 01:02:21,571
talented...
1133
01:02:22,488 --> 01:02:23,364
um...
1134
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:25,616
teenage boys. [chuckles]
1135
01:02:25,700 --> 01:02:27,744
So, that probably added to it, I suppose.
1136
01:02:27,827 --> 01:02:30,371
[jazz piano playing]
1137
01:02:34,500 --> 01:02:36,627
[older Dylan] One thing people
don't know about Ginsberg
1138
01:02:36,711 --> 01:02:38,337
is that he was an incredible dancer.
1139
01:02:38,421 --> 01:02:39,797
Um... who...
1140
01:02:39,881 --> 01:02:44,677
he would just do these steps
that were so unusual and exciting.
1141
01:02:44,761 --> 01:02:47,388
You know, and he'd always have
a good dance partner, too.
1142
01:02:47,472 --> 01:02:51,434
Uh, usually somebody from the tour,
somebody we'd pick up along the way.
1143
01:02:51,768 --> 01:02:54,187
Uh... He danced a lot, Ginsberg.
1144
01:02:54,771 --> 01:02:56,314
[applause]
1145
01:02:56,856 --> 01:02:59,609
[woman] "& shaman
he swings a skinny leg to the sky
1146
01:02:59,692 --> 01:03:01,861
& shaman
he desires you be there watching
1147
01:03:01,944 --> 01:03:03,696
shaman don't care about eating now
1148
01:03:03,821 --> 01:03:06,240
he's got his paint on he's ready for jive
1149
01:03:06,574 --> 01:03:08,993
& shaman's going to sway
& gesture in space
1150
01:03:09,076 --> 01:03:12,371
& shaman's shouting yeah for you
& singing your sorrow
1151
01:03:12,455 --> 01:03:14,248
shaman's not faithful except to you
1152
01:03:14,332 --> 01:03:16,334
shaman does it for you you know all this
1153
01:03:16,417 --> 01:03:18,753
shaman's got his eyes on the violin."
1154
01:03:21,380 --> 01:03:23,925
[woman] There was this yearning,
Allen's yearning,
1155
01:03:24,509 --> 01:03:26,093
to either be Bob or...
1156
01:03:27,094 --> 01:03:29,013
have Bob love him more.
1157
01:03:29,096 --> 01:03:31,015
And I remember Bob saying,
1158
01:03:31,098 --> 01:03:33,226
"Just go out and sing
on the street corners."
1159
01:03:33,309 --> 01:03:34,811
So Allen was essentially doing that.
1160
01:03:35,144 --> 01:03:37,021
♪ Ah... ♪
1161
01:03:37,104 --> 01:03:40,775
[older Dylan] Seeing Ginsberg was
like going to see the Oracle of Delphi.
1162
01:03:41,234 --> 01:03:44,195
He didn't care about material wealth
or political power.
1163
01:03:44,779 --> 01:03:46,447
He was his own kind of king.
1164
01:03:48,157 --> 01:03:50,409
But... he wanted to play music.
1165
01:03:52,870 --> 01:03:55,206
He had already achieved
what any national poet
1166
01:03:55,289 --> 01:03:56,541
could hope to achieve.
1167
01:03:56,624 --> 01:03:59,919
"I saw the best minds of my generation
destroyed by madness."
1168
01:04:00,586 --> 01:04:02,129
Very few poets have done that.
1169
01:04:02,964 --> 01:04:04,215
Robert Frost, maybe.
1170
01:04:04,841 --> 01:04:07,301
"Promises to keep,
miles to go before I sleep."
1171
01:04:07,802 --> 01:04:10,221
Whitman said,
"I am large, I contain multitudes."
1172
01:04:10,304 --> 01:04:12,139
We still remember those lines today.
1173
01:04:13,140 --> 01:04:16,394
Today's poets don't reach
into the public consciousness that way.
1174
01:04:17,395 --> 01:04:20,523
So it was remarkable
that Allen had actually broken through.
1175
01:04:21,274 --> 01:04:25,736
Nowadays, lines that people remember
are lines from songs, lyrics from songs...
1176
01:04:27,071 --> 01:04:29,115
"Your cheatin' heart will make you weep."
1177
01:04:29,198 --> 01:04:32,034
"Don't change your hair for me,
not if you care for me."
1178
01:04:32,827 --> 01:04:35,580
"I'm in the mood for love."
"What a difference a day makes."
1179
01:04:35,663 --> 01:04:36,706
"Ain't misbehavin'."
1180
01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:40,459
Allen wanted his lines
to be remembered like that,
1181
01:04:41,085 --> 01:04:42,753
but he was a poet.
1182
01:04:43,504 --> 01:04:44,881
He wasn't a songwriter.
1183
01:04:46,841 --> 01:04:50,803
[Ginsberg] By 1970 through 1975,
1184
01:04:50,970 --> 01:04:54,599
all of the, uh, heroes of song and poetry
1185
01:04:55,558 --> 01:04:57,059
were out on their own,
1186
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:58,477
uh...
1187
01:04:59,854 --> 01:05:01,522
in the solitude...
1188
01:05:02,481 --> 01:05:03,357
doing their art.
1189
01:05:05,234 --> 01:05:08,029
The people that were going to die
or drink themselves to death,
1190
01:05:08,112 --> 01:05:10,531
as many great artists did,
or get strung out...
1191
01:05:11,198 --> 01:05:15,161
uh, went down to... uh...
1192
01:05:16,162 --> 01:05:18,789
She'ol, as Kerouac did,
1193
01:05:19,373 --> 01:05:22,627
105 miles from this ocean,
buried in Lowell.
1194
01:05:23,711 --> 01:05:26,797
But that's where I got all my poetry,
out of Mexico City Blues.
1195
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:28,799
You ever read this?
1196
01:05:29,050 --> 01:05:30,384
-Sure.
-This book...
1197
01:05:30,843 --> 01:05:33,387
-This is my favorite.
-Yeah, I-- I read this. Uh...
1198
01:05:34,764 --> 01:05:37,433
My good friend Dave Whitaker
gave me a copy of this book.
1199
01:05:37,516 --> 01:05:40,853
-When?
-Uh, in Minneapolis in 1959.
1200
01:05:40,937 --> 01:05:41,771
Uh-huh.
1201
01:05:42,438 --> 01:05:45,608
I remember when David gave me this book,
it just blew a hole in my mind.
1202
01:05:45,942 --> 01:05:46,776
Really?
1203
01:05:47,777 --> 01:05:50,071
Yeah.
"What's been buried in the grave?
1204
01:05:50,154 --> 01:05:50,988
Dust.
1205
01:05:51,155 --> 01:05:52,281
-Perfect--"
-"Perfect dust."
1206
01:05:52,365 --> 01:05:54,659
"Perfect dust in time." [chuckles]
1207
01:05:55,409 --> 01:05:57,036
He wrote a lot about being dead.
1208
01:05:58,204 --> 01:06:00,790
"Once I went to a movie
At midnight, 1940,
1209
01:06:00,873 --> 01:06:02,375
Mice and Men, the name of it.
1210
01:06:02,458 --> 01:06:05,419
The Red Block Boxcars
Rolling by (on the Screen)
1211
01:06:05,878 --> 01:06:06,712
Yessir
1212
01:06:06,796 --> 01:06:08,673
life finally gets tired of living -
1213
01:06:09,215 --> 01:06:11,759
On both occasions I had wild
Face looking into lights
1214
01:06:11,842 --> 01:06:13,219
Of streets where phantoms
1215
01:06:13,302 --> 01:06:16,180
Hastened out of sight
Into Memorial cello time."
1216
01:06:16,263 --> 01:06:17,848
-[Dylan] Oh, yeah.
-[Ginsberg chuckles]
1217
01:06:17,932 --> 01:06:20,267
[Dylan] Here's one.
"Dead and don't know it,
1218
01:06:20,351 --> 01:06:21,394
Living and do.
1219
01:06:21,811 --> 01:06:23,562
The living have a dead idea.
1220
01:06:24,105 --> 01:06:25,856
A person is a living idea;
1221
01:06:25,982 --> 01:06:27,775
after death, a dead idea.
1222
01:06:27,858 --> 01:06:29,402
When rock becomes air..."
1223
01:06:29,485 --> 01:06:30,569
[both] "I will be there."
1224
01:06:30,653 --> 01:06:31,487
[both laugh]
1225
01:06:31,570 --> 01:06:33,280
-He's here.
-Yeah, this is where he is.
1226
01:06:33,364 --> 01:06:35,700
-Yeah. So rock has become air.
-Yeah.
1227
01:06:38,744 --> 01:06:40,705
-Let's sit down a minute, relax.
-Well, this is...
1228
01:06:41,330 --> 01:06:44,834
-Yes, it's not every day...
-[older Dylan] Kerouac, he honored life.
1229
01:06:45,710 --> 01:06:48,963
I had to read everything again,
that Kerouac wrote.
1230
01:06:49,046 --> 01:06:51,882
Not that I did,
but I thought about it differently.
1231
01:06:52,425 --> 01:06:54,301
All of a sudden, On the Road,
1232
01:06:55,761 --> 01:06:57,680
he was talking about the road of life.
1233
01:06:58,180 --> 01:07:00,182
[light melody playing]
1234
01:07:07,231 --> 01:07:09,025
[Ginsberg] "Strange now to think of you,
1235
01:07:09,108 --> 01:07:11,235
gone without corsets and eyes,
1236
01:07:11,318 --> 01:07:13,112
while I walk
on the sunny pavement
1237
01:07:13,195 --> 01:07:14,405
of Greenwich Village,
1238
01:07:15,197 --> 01:07:16,782
downtown Manhattan,
1239
01:07:17,033 --> 01:07:18,242
clear winter noon,
1240
01:07:18,576 --> 01:07:20,578
and I've been up all night talking,
1241
01:07:20,661 --> 01:07:21,662
talking,
1242
01:07:21,746 --> 01:07:23,247
reading the Kaddish aloud,
1243
01:07:23,664 --> 01:07:25,166
listening to Ray Charles
1244
01:07:25,249 --> 01:07:27,752
blues shout blind on the phonograph
1245
01:07:28,169 --> 01:07:29,962
The rhythm, the rhythm
1246
01:07:30,629 --> 01:07:32,798
and your memory in my head..."
"like a poem in the dark--
1247
01:07:32,965 --> 01:07:35,301
escaped back to Oblivion--
1248
01:07:35,926 --> 01:07:37,178
No more to say,
1249
01:07:37,261 --> 01:07:40,723
and nothing to weep for
but the Beings in the Dream,
1250
01:07:40,806 --> 01:07:42,516
trapped in its disappearance,
1251
01:07:43,017 --> 01:07:43,893
sighing,
1252
01:07:44,268 --> 01:07:45,227
screaming with it,
1253
01:07:45,603 --> 01:07:48,856
buying and selling pieces of phantom,
1254
01:07:49,065 --> 01:07:51,525
laughing and weeping over mahjong,
1255
01:07:51,776 --> 01:07:53,444
worshipping each other,
1256
01:07:53,611 --> 01:07:56,072
worshipping the God included in it all--
1257
01:07:56,447 --> 01:07:58,908
longing or inevitability?--
1258
01:07:59,116 --> 01:08:01,327
while it lasts, a Vision--
1259
01:08:01,786 --> 01:08:05,164
Death, stay thy phantoms!
1260
01:08:05,748 --> 01:08:08,292
O mother
what have I left out
1261
01:08:08,876 --> 01:08:11,420
O mother
what have I forgotten
1262
01:08:11,796 --> 01:08:14,465
O mother
farewell
1263
01:08:14,799 --> 01:08:16,801
with a long black shoe
1264
01:08:17,301 --> 01:08:19,720
farewell
with Communist Party
1265
01:08:19,804 --> 01:08:21,305
and a broken stocking
1266
01:08:21,764 --> 01:08:23,933
farewell
with six dark hairs
1267
01:08:24,016 --> 01:08:25,684
on the wen of your breast
1268
01:08:26,185 --> 01:08:28,562
farewell
with your old dress
1269
01:08:28,646 --> 01:08:31,649
and a long black beard around the vagina
1270
01:08:32,066 --> 01:08:35,569
with your eyes
with your eyes of Russia
1271
01:08:35,653 --> 01:08:37,822
with your eyes of no money
1272
01:08:37,947 --> 01:08:40,241
with your eyes of Aunt Elanor
1273
01:08:40,533 --> 01:08:42,326
with your eyes of shock
1274
01:08:42,618 --> 01:08:44,829
with your eyes of lobotomy
1275
01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:49,583
with your eyes of divorce
with your eyes of stroke
1276
01:08:49,792 --> 01:08:52,002
with your eyes alone
1277
01:08:52,169 --> 01:08:53,337
with your eyes
1278
01:08:53,754 --> 01:08:54,964
with your eyes
1279
01:08:55,214 --> 01:08:57,883
with your death full of flowers."
1280
01:08:59,552 --> 01:09:02,179
[applause]
1281
01:09:05,516 --> 01:09:07,810
["A Simple Twist of Fate" playing]
1282
01:09:20,406 --> 01:09:23,701
♪ She walks alone
Through the city blocks ♪
1283
01:09:24,493 --> 01:09:27,705
♪ Oh, hears the tickin' of the clocks ♪
1284
01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:31,625
♪ Hunts for her by the waterfront docks ♪
1285
01:09:31,834 --> 01:09:34,670
♪ Where the sailors all come in ♪
1286
01:09:35,838 --> 01:09:38,340
♪ Maybe he'll see her there once again ♪
1287
01:09:39,592 --> 01:09:42,803
♪ How long must he wait? ♪
1288
01:09:44,638 --> 01:09:48,976
♪ One more time
For a simple twist of fate ♪
1289
01:09:52,021 --> 01:09:53,981
[Sloman on phone] Tell me a bit
about the spirit of the tour.
1290
01:09:54,064 --> 01:09:56,442
-'Cause you're doing new songs, right?
-[Dylan on phone] Yeah.
1291
01:09:56,525 --> 01:09:59,528
[Sloman] And a lot of people in
the audience expected the old songs.
1292
01:09:59,612 --> 01:10:01,405
[Dylan] But Ratso, you know,
that's the first--
1293
01:10:01,488 --> 01:10:03,324
-one of the first rules--
-[Sloman] What's that?
1294
01:10:03,407 --> 01:10:04,783
[Dylan] The expectations, you know?
1295
01:10:04,867 --> 01:10:07,369
If you have big expectations,
you're gonna be let down.
1296
01:10:07,453 --> 01:10:09,371
You can't have any expectations.
1297
01:10:09,455 --> 01:10:11,123
[Sloman] But people do
have preconceptions.
1298
01:10:11,207 --> 01:10:13,918
[Dylan] That's their problem, Ratso.
That's their own problem.
1299
01:10:14,001 --> 01:10:16,587
We can't account for everybody
who's walking around, you know?
1300
01:10:16,670 --> 01:10:18,088
Like having expectations.
1301
01:10:18,172 --> 01:10:19,590
I mean, who gives a shit?
1302
01:10:19,673 --> 01:10:20,841
[Sloman] Yeah.
1303
01:10:20,925 --> 01:10:24,094
♪ They sat together in the park ♪
1304
01:10:24,178 --> 01:10:25,054
[audience cheers]
1305
01:10:25,137 --> 01:10:27,723
♪ As the evening sky got dark ♪
1306
01:10:28,933 --> 01:10:31,477
♪ She looked at him and he felt a spark ♪
1307
01:10:32,853 --> 01:10:35,356
♪ Tingle to his bones ♪
1308
01:10:36,774 --> 01:10:39,360
♪ 'Twas then he felt alone ♪
1309
01:10:40,611 --> 01:10:43,739
♪ And he wished he'd gone straight ♪
1310
01:10:44,990 --> 01:10:49,828
♪ And watched out
For a simple twist of fate ♪
1311
01:10:53,874 --> 01:10:56,919
♪ They walked along by the old canal ♪
1312
01:10:57,962 --> 01:11:00,714
♪ A little confused, I remember well ♪
1313
01:11:02,091 --> 01:11:04,885
♪ And stopped into a strange hotel ♪
1314
01:11:05,469 --> 01:11:08,430
♪ With a neon burnin' bright ♪
1315
01:11:09,598 --> 01:11:12,601
♪ He felt the heat of the night ♪
1316
01:11:13,519 --> 01:11:17,731
♪ Hit him like a freight train ♪
1317
01:11:18,023 --> 01:11:22,778
♪ Moving with a simple twist of fate ♪
1318
01:11:26,907 --> 01:11:29,952
♪ A saxophone someplace softly played ♪
1319
01:11:30,869 --> 01:11:33,831
♪ As she was walkin' on by the arcade ♪
1320
01:11:34,999 --> 01:11:37,876
♪ She heard the melody rise and fade ♪
1321
01:11:38,585 --> 01:11:41,380
♪ The sun was coming up ♪
1322
01:11:42,214 --> 01:11:45,551
♪ She dropped a coin into the cup ♪
1323
01:11:46,343 --> 01:11:49,680
♪ Of a blind man at the gate ♪
1324
01:11:50,681 --> 01:11:55,686
♪ And forgot about
A simple twist of fate ♪
1325
01:12:00,024 --> 01:12:03,110
♪ He woke up, she was gone ♪
1326
01:12:03,902 --> 01:12:06,739
♪ He didn't see nothing but the dawn ♪
1327
01:12:07,906 --> 01:12:11,076
♪ He got out of bed
And put his clothes back on ♪
1328
01:12:12,161 --> 01:12:14,288
♪ Pushed back the blinds ♪
1329
01:12:15,247 --> 01:12:18,292
♪ Found a note she'd left behind ♪
1330
01:12:19,126 --> 01:12:22,629
♪ To which he just could not relate ♪
1331
01:12:24,214 --> 01:12:28,469
♪ All about a simple twist of fate ♪
1332
01:12:34,391 --> 01:12:37,853
♪ He hears the ticking of the clocks ♪
1333
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:42,024
♪ And walks alone
Through the city blocks ♪
1334
01:12:42,649 --> 01:12:45,861
♪ Hunts her down by the waterfront docks ♪
1335
01:12:45,944 --> 01:12:48,947
♪ Where the sailors all roll in ♪
1336
01:12:49,740 --> 01:12:52,993
♪ Maybe he'll spot her once again ♪
1337
01:12:53,494 --> 01:12:57,206
♪ How long must he wait? ♪
1338
01:12:58,791 --> 01:13:03,337
♪ One more time
For a simple twist of fate ♪
1339
01:13:07,549 --> 01:13:10,177
♪ People tell me it's a crime ♪
1340
01:13:11,428 --> 01:13:14,640
♪ To know too much for too long a time ♪
1341
01:13:15,724 --> 01:13:18,977
♪ She should've caught me in my prime ♪
1342
01:13:19,728 --> 01:13:22,106
♪ She would've stayed with me ♪
1343
01:13:22,773 --> 01:13:26,026
♪ Instead I'm going off to sea ♪
1344
01:13:26,652 --> 01:13:30,531
♪ And leaving me to meditate ♪
1345
01:13:31,824 --> 01:13:37,079
♪ Upon that simple twist of fate ♪
1346
01:14:17,327 --> 01:14:18,912
[audience applauds]
1347
01:14:27,504 --> 01:14:30,924
[Nixon] I shall resign the presidency
effective at noon tomorrow.
1348
01:14:31,008 --> 01:14:33,927
Vice President Ford will be sworn in
as president
1349
01:14:34,428 --> 01:14:37,055
at that hour in this office.
1350
01:14:37,139 --> 01:14:40,851
[Dylan and Baez]
♪ I dreamed I saw Saint Augustine ♪
1351
01:14:40,976 --> 01:14:43,896
♪ Alive as you or me...♪
1352
01:14:44,188 --> 01:14:47,274
[Gerald Ford] Thomas Jefferson said,
"The people...
1353
01:14:48,108 --> 01:14:52,821
are the only sure reliance
for the preservation of our liberty."
1354
01:14:52,905 --> 01:14:56,867
[Dylan and Baez]
♪ With a blanket underneath his arm ♪
1355
01:14:56,950 --> 01:14:58,994
♪ And a coat of solid gold... ♪
1356
01:14:59,077 --> 01:15:02,831
[Ford] Abraham Lincoln renewed
this American article of faith
1357
01:15:02,915 --> 01:15:08,003
asking, "Is there any better way
or equal hope in the world?"
1358
01:15:08,128 --> 01:15:09,129
[bodyguard] Go!
1359
01:15:09,213 --> 01:15:10,964
Everybody get out of the way, now!
1360
01:15:11,131 --> 01:15:11,965
Get down!
1361
01:15:12,341 --> 01:15:13,383
Get out of the way!
1362
01:15:13,967 --> 01:15:15,886
[inaudible]
1363
01:15:16,136 --> 01:15:19,389
♪ Come out ye gifted kings and queens... ♪
1364
01:15:19,473 --> 01:15:22,976
[Graham] We've got too many people
who are knocking every institution,
1365
01:15:23,143 --> 01:15:25,521
including the Congress, the president,
the flag,
1366
01:15:25,604 --> 01:15:26,438
everything.
1367
01:15:26,813 --> 01:15:28,398
I think it's time to stand up and say,
1368
01:15:28,482 --> 01:15:31,527
"Well, we believe in these institutions,
and we believe in America."
1369
01:15:32,236 --> 01:15:34,154
And I think America ought to sing
a little bit.
1370
01:15:34,238 --> 01:15:35,822
[Dylan and Baez] ♪ ...accordingly ♪
1371
01:15:35,906 --> 01:15:40,786
♪ And know you're not alone ♪
1372
01:15:44,248 --> 01:15:46,792
[man] Now, we're talking about
Bob Dylan the man,
1373
01:15:46,917 --> 01:15:49,836
that's who we're talking about,
the message he preaches when he sings...
1374
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,172
-You can't use microscopes on everything.
-The happiness...
1375
01:15:52,256 --> 01:15:53,549
You're not using microscopes.
1376
01:15:53,632 --> 01:15:56,426
-You can't use a scalpel that way.
-You're using the message.
1377
01:15:56,969 --> 01:15:58,971
I thought it was sort of depressing...
1378
01:15:59,555 --> 01:16:02,683
that people would stand in line
for two days to see a man.
1379
01:16:02,766 --> 01:16:04,142
It just so-- shows...
1380
01:16:05,894 --> 01:16:08,564
they have that need for something
or somebody to...
1381
01:16:10,816 --> 01:16:13,318
bring salvation or something. You know?
1382
01:16:13,986 --> 01:16:15,153
But I did it, too.
1383
01:16:15,237 --> 01:16:16,071
[both chuckle]
1384
01:16:16,196 --> 01:16:17,030
I don't know.
1385
01:16:17,406 --> 01:16:20,033
About five in the afternoon,
the day before the show, right?
1386
01:16:20,117 --> 01:16:20,993
-Yeah.
-You were there,
1387
01:16:21,076 --> 01:16:23,579
you'd been there for a couple of days,
you hit on me right away.
1388
01:16:23,662 --> 01:16:25,205
You said you wanted this button, right?
1389
01:16:25,289 --> 01:16:26,957
Thought I was Dylan
or some shit like that.
1390
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,584
-Yeah, right. Mm-hmm.
-Yeah.
1391
01:16:29,167 --> 01:16:31,336
[van Dorp]
A lot of people think you are, Larry.
1392
01:16:31,753 --> 01:16:34,256
Well, it's pretty obvious. [laughs]
1393
01:16:34,339 --> 01:16:36,341
[man] Take your glasses off
for a minute.
1394
01:16:37,467 --> 01:16:39,511
-I'm not him.
-[man] Well, anyways...
1395
01:16:39,636 --> 01:16:42,806
[van Dorp] That little shit Ratso,
he was the worst.
1396
01:16:42,889 --> 01:16:45,517
He dressed like Dylan,
he tried to talk like Dylan,
1397
01:16:45,601 --> 01:16:47,561
always trying to ingratiate himself.
1398
01:16:47,644 --> 01:16:49,104
He thought he was Hunter Thompson
1399
01:16:49,187 --> 01:16:51,481
just because he was writing
for Rolling Stone.
1400
01:16:51,565 --> 01:16:54,276
He didn't want anyone else
with vision around.
1401
01:16:55,235 --> 01:16:57,279
[interviewer] Did he wind up
causing problems for you?
1402
01:16:57,362 --> 01:16:58,363
Please.
1403
01:16:58,655 --> 01:17:01,450
Does the cockroach really cause problems
for the house?
1404
01:17:01,700 --> 01:17:03,368
No, it's just a nuisance.
1405
01:17:03,702 --> 01:17:05,871
[older Dylan] Van Dorp was an unusual guy.
1406
01:17:06,455 --> 01:17:09,416
He's one of those kind of people
who's trying to... just needs an enemy.
1407
01:17:09,499 --> 01:17:10,334
And...
1408
01:17:10,542 --> 01:17:13,420
uh, he was trying to make enemies
where there weren't any,
1409
01:17:13,670 --> 01:17:16,256
and, uh, he-- he was--
1410
01:17:16,340 --> 01:17:17,966
he was successful at that.
1411
01:17:20,052 --> 01:17:23,764
He-- He angered a lot--
lots of people, especially in catering.
1412
01:17:23,847 --> 01:17:26,975
He would eat two or three, uh, meals
1413
01:17:27,142 --> 01:17:30,437
that really...
really were for somebody else.
1414
01:17:31,813 --> 01:17:34,441
So, he ate more than he was supposed to,
1415
01:17:35,025 --> 01:17:36,985
and I think-- and I think he...
1416
01:17:37,486 --> 01:17:38,779
[inhales sharply]
1417
01:17:39,529 --> 01:17:43,950
...uh, I think he stuck his nose in places
it might've should not have been.
1418
01:17:45,661 --> 01:17:47,496
He was also a very paranoid person.
1419
01:17:48,246 --> 01:17:50,540
Complained to people
that his room was bugged.
1420
01:17:51,708 --> 01:17:54,961
Uh, which, you know,
McGuinn was on that tour,
1421
01:17:55,170 --> 01:18:00,384
and McGuinn who at that point was into,
uh, very sophisticated electronics.
1422
01:18:00,467 --> 01:18:02,469
So I'm not saying it wasn't bugged but...
1423
01:18:03,261 --> 01:18:05,430
but I'm not saying that it was bugged,
1424
01:18:05,514 --> 01:18:07,099
because I don't know that for a fact.
1425
01:18:07,182 --> 01:18:09,267
[man] All tickets are $8.50 a ticket.
1426
01:18:10,018 --> 01:18:11,937
[interviewer]
What were the audiences like...
1427
01:18:12,020 --> 01:18:13,105
that you played to?
1428
01:18:15,357 --> 01:18:17,609
Well, they would all be...
1429
01:18:18,652 --> 01:18:19,820
hysterically happy.
1430
01:18:20,404 --> 01:18:22,155
So, I mean, you can't really judge much
1431
01:18:22,239 --> 01:18:24,282
from saying,
"What would the audiences be like?"
1432
01:18:24,366 --> 01:18:27,536
They would all be people who would've
slit each other's throats to get there.
1433
01:18:29,121 --> 01:18:31,123
[audience applauds]
1434
01:18:32,624 --> 01:18:35,877
-[man shouts] What a lovely couple!
-[audience laughs and claps]
1435
01:18:38,422 --> 01:18:41,466
-Don't make myths. A couple of what?
-A couple of what?
1436
01:18:43,093 --> 01:18:45,846
["I Shall Be Released" playing]
1437
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,308
[laughs]
1438
01:18:52,519 --> 01:18:57,190
♪ They say ev'rything can be replaced ♪
1439
01:19:00,444 --> 01:19:04,322
♪ That ev'ry distance is not near ♪
1440
01:19:07,701 --> 01:19:11,872
♪ So I remember ev'ry face ♪
1441
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:19,045
♪ Of ev'ry man who put me here ♪
1442
01:19:19,588 --> 01:19:21,757
[older Dylan] Joan Baez
and me could sing anything.
1443
01:19:22,632 --> 01:19:24,551
We could sing together in our sleep.
1444
01:19:25,427 --> 01:19:26,553
As a matter of fact,
1445
01:19:27,095 --> 01:19:29,931
lot of times when I was sleeping,
I'd hear her voice.
1446
01:19:32,142 --> 01:19:35,896
♪ Yonder down here in this lonely crowd ♪
1447
01:19:39,649 --> 01:19:43,904
♪ Is a man who swears he's not to blame ♪
1448
01:19:47,491 --> 01:19:51,953
♪ All day long I hear him shouting loud ♪
1449
01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:59,044
♪ Crying out that he been framed ♪
1450
01:20:01,630 --> 01:20:03,006
♪ I see my light... ♪
1451
01:20:03,131 --> 01:20:05,133
[older Dylan] Joan was so courageous.
1452
01:20:06,092 --> 01:20:07,010
Self-disciplined.
1453
01:20:08,011 --> 01:20:11,264
When I first met her, it seemed like
she'd come down to Earth from a meteorite.
1454
01:20:11,890 --> 01:20:12,849
And she's never changed.
1455
01:20:12,933 --> 01:20:15,852
She always seems like she's just come down
from a meteorite.
1456
01:20:16,311 --> 01:20:18,313
[audience cheering and applauding]
1457
01:20:20,482 --> 01:20:23,318
[interviewer] You had no reservations
about going on tour?
1458
01:20:24,152 --> 01:20:24,986
Well...
1459
01:20:25,654 --> 01:20:27,030
[sighs] Sure.
1460
01:20:27,781 --> 01:20:28,615
I mean...
1461
01:20:29,533 --> 01:20:34,579
I think it probably sounded like... fun,
but I also had experienced Dylan,
1462
01:20:34,913 --> 01:20:38,500
and, you know, how much fun
that can be on any tour or not. [chuckles]
1463
01:20:38,959 --> 01:20:39,876
So, um...
1464
01:20:40,418 --> 01:20:43,630
But I think, know-- knowing
that it was gonna be a lot of people,
1465
01:20:43,713 --> 01:20:46,842
and I was gonna have my own family
with me...
1466
01:20:47,092 --> 01:20:49,094
[up-tempo music playing]
1467
01:20:51,638 --> 01:20:54,391
[Baez] It sounded exciting, you know.
1468
01:21:04,401 --> 01:21:06,027
I had my own freedom...
1469
01:21:06,111 --> 01:21:09,865
to sing and dance in a way
that I didn't do on my own stage.
1470
01:21:16,830 --> 01:21:18,707
[older Dylan] Maybe there wasn't enough
for her to do
1471
01:21:18,790 --> 01:21:20,417
and she'd begin to go a little stir-crazy.
1472
01:21:20,500 --> 01:21:21,376
Started doing, uh...
1473
01:21:21,710 --> 01:21:25,422
boogaloo and hanging out with people
maybe she shouldn't be hanging out with,
1474
01:21:25,505 --> 01:21:26,506
and, um...
1475
01:21:27,299 --> 01:21:28,258
Ugh.
1476
01:21:29,593 --> 01:21:30,927
I don't know what happened.
1477
01:21:32,387 --> 01:21:34,890
Boy, sitting right next to Bob Dylan, man.
Whew.
1478
01:21:34,973 --> 01:21:37,017
[man] I got a light if you got a smoke.
1479
01:21:37,726 --> 01:21:40,103
[Baez] One time,
I got all dressed up as Bob,
1480
01:21:40,186 --> 01:21:41,855
which I would do periodically.
1481
01:21:42,063 --> 01:21:45,567
I used to put these little beard markings
all over and have a mustache on.
1482
01:21:45,901 --> 01:21:48,028
[laughing] And then I'd put his hat on
1483
01:21:48,570 --> 01:21:49,863
and some whiteface.
1484
01:21:50,155 --> 01:21:52,240
♪ All the time you dress so fine ♪
1485
01:21:53,617 --> 01:21:56,745
♪ Threw the bums a dime in your prime... ♪
1486
01:21:56,828 --> 01:21:59,623
[Baez] I walked over with nobody really
paying attention,
1487
01:21:59,706 --> 01:22:01,166
and I'd be Bob.
1488
01:22:01,666 --> 01:22:05,003
And there was this table of,
like, food and catering and coffee,
1489
01:22:05,337 --> 01:22:07,213
and Louie was there, and I said...
1490
01:22:07,297 --> 01:22:09,215
[imitating Dylan]
"Handsome, give me some coffee."
1491
01:22:09,966 --> 01:22:12,552
[in normal voice] Instantly,
people got me some coffee like that.
1492
01:22:13,136 --> 01:22:16,014
"D'you want this? D'you want this?
You want milk? Do you want sugar?"
1493
01:22:16,097 --> 01:22:18,934
And I just had a cigarette in my hand,
going like that,
1494
01:22:19,017 --> 01:22:21,019
and they treated me
the way they treat Bob.
1495
01:22:21,102 --> 01:22:23,063
"D'you want this? D'you want that?
What can we do?"
1496
01:22:23,146 --> 01:22:24,272
It was amazing.
1497
01:22:24,981 --> 01:22:27,859
It was amazing
until finally I said something like,
1498
01:22:27,943 --> 01:22:31,196
"Oh, for Christ sake, Louie."
[gasps] And then he realized.
1499
01:22:31,279 --> 01:22:34,366
Oh, yeah, and I had a little wig on
with my hair coming out underneath it.
1500
01:22:34,658 --> 01:22:36,910
[clicks tongue] Terrible.
1501
01:22:36,993 --> 01:22:38,203
[laughs]
1502
01:22:40,330 --> 01:22:43,625
[man] It's like the court of Henry VIII
or something, you know?
1503
01:22:43,833 --> 01:22:46,836
Who's Anne Boleyn, you know?
Which one is gonna get the ax, you know?
1504
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,465
[laughs] You know what I mean?
You know, there's that kind of dynamic.
1505
01:22:50,548 --> 01:22:52,884
And people are maneuvering to get closer,
1506
01:22:52,968 --> 01:22:55,804
and then there are the people
who are using you to maneuver.
1507
01:22:56,137 --> 01:22:58,974
David Mansfield wanted to sing a song
with me, uh...
1508
01:22:59,182 --> 01:23:00,934
Ugh. God.
1509
01:23:01,226 --> 01:23:03,687
That, uh, a drummer did.
1510
01:23:03,812 --> 01:23:06,022
I didn't see what the point of it all was.
1511
01:23:07,691 --> 01:23:11,069
-[van Dorp] What does makeup do for you?
-I don't know.
1512
01:23:11,152 --> 01:23:13,780
Just hides, you know, the ugliness
a little bit.
1513
01:23:16,032 --> 01:23:19,828
[woman] Everyone, of course, you know,
wanted their shot,
1514
01:23:19,911 --> 01:23:21,454
wanted their time in the sun.
1515
01:23:22,330 --> 01:23:24,582
But we all know that, you know,
you have to...
1516
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:26,543
give for the good of the show.
1517
01:23:26,668 --> 01:23:28,753
And it was such an honor to be there,
1518
01:23:29,838 --> 01:23:31,297
so that was no problem.
1519
01:23:32,215 --> 01:23:34,217
[indistinct chatter]
1520
01:23:36,094 --> 01:23:38,680
[interviewer] Who were the people
you were closest with on the tour?
1521
01:23:38,763 --> 01:23:41,558
[Blakley] I know this sounds funny,
but I felt close to Bob.
1522
01:23:42,058 --> 01:23:45,145
I just always felt close to him
from the moment I met him.
1523
01:23:45,353 --> 01:23:48,273
Um, I'm sure many people
that feel that way.
1524
01:23:49,107 --> 01:23:50,108
Um...
1525
01:23:50,942 --> 01:23:54,070
I know Mick Ronson told me, however,
when I said, um...
1526
01:23:54,988 --> 01:23:57,282
you know, "Don't you love Bob?"
and he said, "I don't know.
1527
01:23:57,365 --> 01:23:58,616
He's never spoken to me."
1528
01:24:00,118 --> 01:24:03,371
Um, and then once we were
in Massachusetts,
1529
01:24:03,913 --> 01:24:05,540
and people were about to arrive.
1530
01:24:05,623 --> 01:24:08,501
I don't know who they were,
but not our little group.
1531
01:24:09,002 --> 01:24:12,380
Bob and I were alone in the basement,
and Bob said, "Ronee, help."
1532
01:24:12,714 --> 01:24:13,923
And I said, "Help what?"
1533
01:24:15,175 --> 01:24:19,137
And-- And I felt so bad about that
afterwards because I didn't mean to be...
1534
01:24:19,846 --> 01:24:23,850
cruel or thoughtless to Bob,
but I always thought, you know,
1535
01:24:23,933 --> 01:24:25,935
I had to treat him
just like a regular person
1536
01:24:26,019 --> 01:24:27,896
if I were going to be friends with him.
1537
01:24:29,814 --> 01:24:33,777
But later on, I understood a little more
what he might be asking help for.
1538
01:24:34,027 --> 01:24:35,361
[interviewer]
What was he asking help for?
1539
01:24:35,445 --> 01:24:37,280
I think the onslaught of strangers.
1540
01:24:37,363 --> 01:24:39,074
[children playing]
1541
01:24:39,157 --> 01:24:41,076
[boy] Hello, take my picture, please!
1542
01:24:41,493 --> 01:24:42,577
[Dylan] Hiya, man.
1543
01:24:47,957 --> 01:24:52,796
[Stone] I was in the park
with another one of my modeling jobs.
1544
01:24:53,421 --> 01:24:55,423
Of course, the whole park is full
of everybody doing
1545
01:24:55,507 --> 01:24:59,511
whatever they're doing,
and suddenly I hear, "Hey, Kiss,"
1546
01:24:59,928 --> 01:25:01,888
and I'm just, of course, mortified.
1547
01:25:01,971 --> 01:25:03,389
[laughing] And then I realize...
1548
01:25:03,973 --> 01:25:05,350
that it's him.
1549
01:25:05,767 --> 01:25:08,436
So, of course, I'm even more mortified.
1550
01:25:09,938 --> 01:25:12,065
[older Dylan]
I think I met her with her mother.
1551
01:25:12,190 --> 01:25:13,316
She was a nice girl.
1552
01:25:13,608 --> 01:25:14,442
Uh...
1553
01:25:15,527 --> 01:25:17,278
She was so young, anyway, you know.
1554
01:25:18,822 --> 01:25:20,323
But she seemed old for her age.
1555
01:25:22,575 --> 01:25:24,869
[Stone] Everybody wants
to be a movie star...
1556
01:25:25,036 --> 01:25:25,912
don't they?
1557
01:25:26,955 --> 01:25:29,749
But, you know, when you live
in the middle of nowhere,
1558
01:25:29,833 --> 01:25:32,544
when you tell somebody you wanna be
a movie star, they think you're...
1559
01:25:33,294 --> 01:25:34,129
insane.
1560
01:25:36,005 --> 01:25:38,133
[older Dylan] She, uh, used to tell me,
1561
01:25:38,216 --> 01:25:40,718
uh, someday
she's going to be a famous actress.
1562
01:25:41,511 --> 01:25:42,470
Uh, okay.
1563
01:25:43,263 --> 01:25:45,807
A couple of days later he said, um...
1564
01:25:47,183 --> 01:25:48,268
"You know, hey...
1565
01:25:49,686 --> 01:25:53,439
how about if you just
come on the road with us?"
1566
01:25:55,275 --> 01:25:58,319
And I thought, "And do what?"
1567
01:25:58,736 --> 01:26:00,738
[crowd cheering]
1568
01:26:01,030 --> 01:26:03,658
[Stone] "You know, you could help out
with the costumes
1569
01:26:03,741 --> 01:26:06,369
and help out backstage and stuff."
1570
01:26:07,453 --> 01:26:10,123
-[man shouts] "Just Like a Woman."
-What?
1571
01:26:10,540 --> 01:26:12,750
-"Just Like a Woman"?
-[woman] Yeah!
1572
01:26:12,834 --> 01:26:15,170
-Do we know that song?
-[man] I don't know, we could fake it.
1573
01:26:15,378 --> 01:26:17,422
[Stone] It was one of the first shows.
1574
01:26:18,256 --> 01:26:20,717
-I was backstage.
-[Dylan] ...we'll try it.
1575
01:26:21,050 --> 01:26:23,261
[Stone]
Joan Baez had asked me to iron her shirt.
1576
01:26:24,387 --> 01:26:27,682
A second later I hear, "Hey... Sharon."
1577
01:26:28,766 --> 01:26:32,854
And there was this, um,
really decrepit old piano
1578
01:26:32,937 --> 01:26:37,650
shoved off to the side,
and Bob was kinda hunched over it.
1579
01:26:37,942 --> 01:26:40,069
And he gives me that-- that look.
1580
01:26:41,613 --> 01:26:44,324
He's like, "I wrote a song about you."
1581
01:26:44,824 --> 01:26:49,746
♪ Nobody feels any pain ♪
1582
01:26:52,248 --> 01:26:57,003
♪ Tonight as I stand inside the rain ♪
1583
01:26:58,254 --> 01:27:00,131
[Stone] And then he gets to the line...
1584
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:06,179
♪ And she makes love just like a woman ♪
1585
01:27:08,014 --> 01:27:10,141
♪ But she breaks ♪
1586
01:27:10,767 --> 01:27:16,439
♪ Just like a little girl ♪
1587
01:27:18,608 --> 01:27:23,738
I just broke out crying. You know?
Full-on tears. [laughs]
1588
01:27:23,947 --> 01:27:26,991
I get-- I think T Bone's the one
who told me that the song was...
1589
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,619
ten years old. [laughs]
1590
01:27:29,953 --> 01:27:31,287
[man shouts] "Just Like a Woman."
1591
01:27:31,371 --> 01:27:33,289
-[woman] Yeah!
-[audience cheers]
1592
01:27:33,748 --> 01:27:35,083
[Dylan] What's just like a woman?
1593
01:27:35,375 --> 01:27:36,626
What's just like a woman?
1594
01:27:36,751 --> 01:27:39,379
-[audience laughs]
-[Dylan] Nothin' like a woman.
1595
01:27:39,504 --> 01:27:41,005
[strums guitar]
1596
01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:46,970
[man] Do a protest song!
1597
01:27:47,262 --> 01:27:48,554
[audience laughs]
1598
01:27:51,933 --> 01:27:53,393
Yeah, here's the one for you.
1599
01:27:53,476 --> 01:27:55,395
["Oh, Sister" playing]
1600
01:27:55,478 --> 01:27:57,480
[audience cheering]
1601
01:28:19,252 --> 01:28:24,257
♪ Oh, sister, when I come
To lie in your arms ♪
1602
01:28:26,426 --> 01:28:31,055
♪ You should not treat me
Like a stranger ♪
1603
01:28:33,599 --> 01:28:39,439
♪ Our Father would not like
The way that you act ♪
1604
01:28:40,732 --> 01:28:45,778
♪ And you must realize the danger ♪
1605
01:29:16,601 --> 01:29:21,356
♪ Oh, sister, am I not a brother to you ♪
1606
01:29:23,733 --> 01:29:29,072
♪ And one deserving of affection? ♪
1607
01:29:31,032 --> 01:29:36,371
♪ And is our purpose not the same
On this earth ♪
1608
01:29:38,122 --> 01:29:43,169
♪ To love and follow His direction? ♪
1609
01:30:13,491 --> 01:30:15,952
♪ We grew up together ♪
1610
01:30:16,244 --> 01:30:19,205
♪ From the cradle to the grave ♪
1611
01:30:20,289 --> 01:30:22,959
♪ We died and were reborn ♪
1612
01:30:23,167 --> 01:30:30,133
♪ And then mysteriously saved ♪
1613
01:30:31,259 --> 01:30:32,510
[audience whoops]
1614
01:30:33,052 --> 01:30:34,220
[Dylan clears throat]
1615
01:30:35,972 --> 01:30:41,185
♪ Oh, sister, when I come
To knock on your door ♪
1616
01:30:42,937 --> 01:30:48,025
♪ Don't turn away, you'll create sorrow ♪
1617
01:30:49,944 --> 01:30:55,241
♪ Time is an ocean
But it ends at the shore ♪
1618
01:30:56,993 --> 01:31:01,622
♪ You may not see me tomorrow ♪
1619
01:31:31,944 --> 01:31:34,530
[audience applauds]
1620
01:31:40,786 --> 01:31:42,830
[man shouts] Bob Dylan for president!
1621
01:31:42,914 --> 01:31:45,166
-[Dylan laughs]
-[audience cheers and applauds]
1622
01:31:45,500 --> 01:31:47,084
[Dylan] President of what?
1623
01:31:49,587 --> 01:31:52,131
[interviewer] Was he in a special mode
of singing at that time?
1624
01:31:52,215 --> 01:31:54,175
Was he different
than you'd seen him before?
1625
01:31:54,258 --> 01:31:56,385
It was-- There was
a Rolling Thunder energy.
1626
01:31:57,053 --> 01:32:00,223
That was his invention, you know,
and all these people showed up.
1627
01:32:00,848 --> 01:32:01,724
So, yeah.
1628
01:32:05,186 --> 01:32:07,647
-What do you got, Larry?
-[Sloman] The tour was very open-ended,
1629
01:32:07,730 --> 01:32:10,066
so whatever city they went to,
1630
01:32:10,358 --> 01:32:12,485
if there was a local friend and musician,
1631
01:32:12,777 --> 01:32:14,820
there would be a slot for them
to come up and play.
1632
01:32:14,904 --> 01:32:17,573
For example, uh, in Connecticut,
Joni Mitchell...
1633
01:32:18,157 --> 01:32:20,076
came up, did a couple of songs,
1634
01:32:20,368 --> 01:32:22,870
and loved it so much that she stayed on
for the rest of the tour.
1635
01:32:22,954 --> 01:32:25,289
She just became part of the...
this experience.
1636
01:32:25,414 --> 01:32:28,125
-[train rumbling]
-[indistinct chatter]
1637
01:32:30,753 --> 01:32:32,880
[van Dorp]
How did you two end up on the road?
1638
01:32:32,964 --> 01:32:34,423
-I don't know--
-I came through Allen.
1639
01:32:34,507 --> 01:32:36,133
She came through Allen Ginsberg.
1640
01:32:36,467 --> 01:32:39,428
Um... I had finished a project and...
1641
01:32:40,137 --> 01:32:40,972
was, you know,
1642
01:32:41,055 --> 01:32:42,765
in a kind of a postnatal state
1643
01:32:42,848 --> 01:32:45,560
and wanted to come and see a concert,
1644
01:32:45,643 --> 01:32:48,312
and, uh, got sucked into it.
1645
01:32:48,396 --> 01:32:50,982
You know, just shelved everything that...
1646
01:32:51,524 --> 01:32:54,652
Everything else seemed, uh,
minorly important
1647
01:32:54,735 --> 01:32:56,988
compared to this, like, as an experience,
1648
01:32:57,071 --> 01:33:01,033
and an experiment in communal existence.
You know?
1649
01:33:01,909 --> 01:33:02,952
What do you think?
1650
01:33:03,035 --> 01:33:05,454
I think you've gotta come on the stage
right now.
1651
01:33:05,538 --> 01:33:06,956
[Mitchell] Okay, I'm coming.
1652
01:33:08,374 --> 01:33:11,252
[singers intoning] ♪ Ah ♪
1653
01:33:14,297 --> 01:33:17,967
[all harmonizing]
1654
01:33:21,846 --> 01:33:24,724
[Waldman] Some days, I'd see it
as this kind of allegorical thing
1655
01:33:24,807 --> 01:33:29,228
or as this group of pilgrims
on a kind of journey and quest.
1656
01:33:29,312 --> 01:33:32,857
Of course, you-- you know, you--
the deal is you find yourself back home,
1657
01:33:32,940 --> 01:33:34,900
but you have to take this whole journey.
1658
01:33:35,443 --> 01:33:38,487
And then when you open it up to, you know,
here you are in America,
1659
01:33:38,571 --> 01:33:41,824
and-- and all the things
that Bob seemed to care about
1660
01:33:41,907 --> 01:33:44,493
in terms of these other...
the-- the folk culture
1661
01:33:44,577 --> 01:33:46,245
is getting thrown in there.
1662
01:33:46,996 --> 01:33:48,331
[indistinct cheering]
1663
01:33:48,497 --> 01:33:50,708
[Waldman] And that's another weave.
This sort of...
1664
01:33:50,791 --> 01:33:54,211
This-- This American yearning for,
I don't know, redemption.
1665
01:33:54,503 --> 01:33:55,755
[indistinct shouting]
1666
01:33:55,838 --> 01:34:00,092
♪ ...circle be unbroken ♪
1667
01:34:00,176 --> 01:34:04,555
♪ By and by, Lord, by and by ♪
1668
01:34:05,556 --> 01:34:06,724
♪ There's a better... ♪
1669
01:34:06,807 --> 01:34:10,394
[man] Columbus didn't discover America.
There were people here already.
1670
01:34:10,811 --> 01:34:14,440
Even though they stole most everything
they could get their hands on.
1671
01:34:15,483 --> 01:34:20,029
Our land, children,
women, whatever, they took it.
1672
01:34:20,821 --> 01:34:22,615
Left us very poor people.
1673
01:34:22,865 --> 01:34:25,368
A lot of our people homeless
in our own country.
1674
01:34:26,285 --> 01:34:28,162
But the best things of all,
1675
01:34:29,038 --> 01:34:30,331
that they had no value,
1676
01:34:30,915 --> 01:34:32,458
was our way of life.
1677
01:34:32,833 --> 01:34:34,877
-[drumming]
-[people singing]
1678
01:34:40,466 --> 01:34:43,594
[Rolling Thunder] It's beautiful music
when that thunder rolls.
1679
01:34:44,845 --> 01:34:46,764
And that's the way I got my name.
1680
01:34:47,431 --> 01:34:50,726
I used to scream like a little eagle
is what they told me.
1681
01:34:50,893 --> 01:34:54,897
Even when I was a baby in diapers,
run right out in the storm.
1682
01:34:55,690 --> 01:34:56,649
Yeah, I love it.
1683
01:34:57,233 --> 01:35:00,945
And that lightning flash,
there's a lot of power in it, I tell you.
1684
01:35:01,487 --> 01:35:03,364
[singing continues]
1685
01:35:03,572 --> 01:35:05,991
[older Dylan] This tour was named after
Chief Rolling Thunder.
1686
01:35:06,450 --> 01:35:11,539
So, it made sense that we go
to the Tuscarora Indian Reservation and...
1687
01:35:12,957 --> 01:35:13,833
and play.
1688
01:35:14,083 --> 01:35:15,876
We're gonna let our guests get their food.
1689
01:35:16,210 --> 01:35:19,797
I was just told it's gonna be
cafeteria style.
1690
01:35:20,506 --> 01:35:22,883
[Elliot] Bob was seated
right across the table from me,
1691
01:35:22,967 --> 01:35:23,801
and he said,
1692
01:35:24,009 --> 01:35:28,389
"You remember Peter's song
about Ira Hayes?"
1693
01:35:29,348 --> 01:35:33,018
[Peter La Farge] And even today,
there are things to write about...
1694
01:35:34,019 --> 01:35:36,188
for a cowboy, and I'm a cowboy.
1695
01:35:36,772 --> 01:35:38,858
An Indian, and I'm part Indian.
1696
01:35:39,108 --> 01:35:40,568
Or a human being.
1697
01:35:41,402 --> 01:35:43,654
This is a song about a human being,
1698
01:35:45,156 --> 01:35:46,741
who is also an Indian.
1699
01:35:49,326 --> 01:35:51,412
And if you don't remember his name,
1700
01:35:52,371 --> 01:35:55,416
I think you may after this song.
1701
01:35:55,583 --> 01:35:58,461
It's called Ira Hayes.
1702
01:35:58,586 --> 01:36:00,588
[acoustic guitar playing]
1703
01:36:04,925 --> 01:36:08,262
-Where would you want me to stand?
-Anywhere you want. It'll be all right.
1704
01:36:31,911 --> 01:36:35,831
♪ Come gather 'round me, people
And a story I will tell ♪
1705
01:36:36,791 --> 01:36:40,836
♪ About Ira Hayes, an Indian
You should remember well ♪
1706
01:36:41,962 --> 01:36:46,425
♪ From the tribe of Pima Indians
A proud and a peaceful band ♪
1707
01:36:47,259 --> 01:36:51,263
♪ They farmed the Phoenix Valley
In the Arizona land ♪
1708
01:36:52,807 --> 01:36:57,603
♪ Down their ditches for a thousand years
The running water rushed ♪
1709
01:36:57,853 --> 01:37:00,439
♪ Till the white man
Stole the water rights ♪
1710
01:37:00,523 --> 01:37:02,483
♪ And the running water hushed ♪
1711
01:37:05,402 --> 01:37:10,491
♪ Now Ira's folks were hungry
And their farms grew crops of weeds ♪
1712
01:37:11,325 --> 01:37:16,580
♪ But when war came, Ira volunteered
And forgot the white man's greed ♪
1713
01:37:17,581 --> 01:37:22,086
♪ Now they started up Iwo Jima hill
With two hundred and fifty men ♪
1714
01:37:22,837 --> 01:37:27,174
♪ But only twenty-seven lived
To walk back down that hill again ♪
1715
01:37:27,758 --> 01:37:32,012
♪ And when the fight was over
And Old Glory raised ♪
1716
01:37:32,763 --> 01:37:36,892
♪ One of the men that held it high
Was the Indian Ira Hayes ♪
1717
01:37:37,810 --> 01:37:40,521
♪ Call him drunken Ira Hayes ♪
1718
01:37:40,604 --> 01:37:42,606
♪ He won't answer anymore ♪
1719
01:37:43,357 --> 01:37:45,484
♪ Not the whiskey-drinkin' Indian ♪
1720
01:37:45,568 --> 01:37:47,945
♪ Or the Marine that went to war ♪
1721
01:37:48,737 --> 01:37:51,323
♪ Call him drunken Ira Hayes ♪
1722
01:37:51,407 --> 01:37:53,701
♪ He won't answer anymore ♪
1723
01:37:54,368 --> 01:37:56,579
♪ Not the whiskey-drinkin' Indian ♪
1724
01:37:56,745 --> 01:37:59,456
♪ Or the Marine that went to war ♪
1725
01:38:00,666 --> 01:38:03,794
[Chief Mad Bear] This is a United States
diplomatic medal.
1726
01:38:04,461 --> 01:38:06,297
It has-- It has, uh...
1727
01:38:07,339 --> 01:38:12,177
an Indian and the first diplomatic team
of-- of the United States,
1728
01:38:12,553 --> 01:38:17,725
was given in Philadelphia
on July the 4th, 1776.
1729
01:38:18,559 --> 01:38:21,270
Also, been told that there's a possibility
1730
01:38:21,562 --> 01:38:23,731
that these could be the same beads,
1731
01:38:23,856 --> 01:38:26,734
these, uh, larger ones, that Peter Minuit
1732
01:38:27,484 --> 01:38:30,571
traded the--
our people for Manhattan Island.
1733
01:38:30,654 --> 01:38:33,115
-[crowd laughs]
-[Chief Mad Bear] Will you accept this?
1734
01:38:34,700 --> 01:38:36,619
Thanks for everything.
What do you say, folks?
1735
01:38:38,996 --> 01:38:40,748
[Chief Mad Bear]
But somewhere along the line,
1736
01:38:40,831 --> 01:38:42,291
something has failed, and...
1737
01:38:42,458 --> 01:38:46,170
we hope that this country
can straighten out before too long,
1738
01:38:46,253 --> 01:38:49,590
because there are many things
that's going to happen to shape
1739
01:38:49,673 --> 01:38:51,508
not only this country but the world.
1740
01:38:53,135 --> 01:38:53,969
[van Dorp] Bob.
1741
01:38:55,137 --> 01:38:56,889
What you-- You guys still here?
1742
01:38:58,349 --> 01:39:00,309
[van Dorp] Can I ask just one question?
1743
01:39:02,853 --> 01:39:05,773
["The Lonesome Death
of Hattie Carroll" playing]
1744
01:39:06,565 --> 01:39:09,652
♪ William Zanzinger
Killed poor Hattie Carroll ♪
1745
01:39:10,319 --> 01:39:13,989
♪ With a cane that he twirled
Round his diamond ring finger ♪
1746
01:39:14,281 --> 01:39:17,701
♪ At a Baltimore hotel
Society gath'rin' ♪
1747
01:39:18,285 --> 01:39:21,914
♪ And the cops were called in
And his weapon took from him ♪
1748
01:39:22,247 --> 01:39:25,960
♪ As they rode him in custody
Down to the station ♪
1749
01:39:26,043 --> 01:39:30,255
♪ And booked William Zanzinger
For first-degree murder ♪
1750
01:39:33,133 --> 01:39:36,971
♪ Yes, and you who philosophize disgrace ♪
1751
01:39:37,054 --> 01:39:39,974
♪ And criticize all fear ♪
1752
01:39:41,225 --> 01:39:45,020
♪ Take the rag away from your face ♪
1753
01:39:45,312 --> 01:39:48,732
♪ Now ain't the time for your tears ♪
1754
01:39:54,279 --> 01:39:58,659
[Baez] Everything is forgiven
whenever I would see Bob sing.
1755
01:39:59,743 --> 01:40:01,078
It is so...
1756
01:40:01,495 --> 01:40:02,830
the charisma...
1757
01:40:03,914 --> 01:40:06,291
that he has, I've never seen anywhere,
1758
01:40:06,917 --> 01:40:08,293
before or since.
1759
01:40:09,169 --> 01:40:12,047
And the beauty of those songs...
1760
01:40:12,131 --> 01:40:13,841
[imitates rapid typing sounds]
1761
01:40:13,924 --> 01:40:14,925
I don't.
1762
01:40:15,134 --> 01:40:17,553
Jack Kerouac, uh, writes like ticker tape.
1763
01:40:18,554 --> 01:40:20,681
I used to see you write like ticker tape.
1764
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:25,227
I used to feed you salad and red wine
while you wrote like ticker tape.
1765
01:40:25,811 --> 01:40:26,687
Yeah, I remember.
1766
01:40:26,770 --> 01:40:28,856
Brilliant stuff. William Zanzinger.
1767
01:40:29,064 --> 01:40:31,150
Overlooking the Pacific.
1768
01:40:31,859 --> 01:40:34,069
The wild Pacific Ocean in Big Sur, right?
1769
01:40:34,153 --> 01:40:36,030
-William Zanzinger.
-Where was that written?
1770
01:40:36,113 --> 01:40:38,741
"Hattie Carroll." One of the best songs
I think you ever wrote.
1771
01:40:38,824 --> 01:40:40,492
I think it's one of the best songs
you sing.
1772
01:40:40,576 --> 01:40:43,579
Thank you.
How come you take it on the stage now?
1773
01:40:43,954 --> 01:40:46,123
-'Cause you won't sing it.
-[laughs]
1774
01:40:47,249 --> 01:40:48,208
Oh, Bob.
1775
01:40:49,251 --> 01:40:50,085
Sure, I will.
1776
01:40:51,211 --> 01:40:52,796
Just 'cause I screwed up the words.
1777
01:40:53,047 --> 01:40:54,882
-Well, it really...
-How do you like my dress?
1778
01:40:54,965 --> 01:40:57,676
...displeases me that you--
that you went off and got married
1779
01:40:57,760 --> 01:40:59,011
and-- and, uh...
1780
01:41:00,637 --> 01:41:03,140
You went off and got married first
and didn't tell me.
1781
01:41:03,682 --> 01:41:05,684
Yeah, but-- [stammers]
1782
01:41:09,188 --> 01:41:12,399
-You should have told me or something.
-But I married the woman I loved.
1783
01:41:12,483 --> 01:41:13,442
I know, that's true.
1784
01:41:14,568 --> 01:41:17,404
That's true.
And I married the man I thought I loved.
1785
01:41:22,284 --> 01:41:24,244
See, that's what thought
has to do with it.
1786
01:41:24,328 --> 01:41:25,829
Thought will fuck you up.
1787
01:41:27,206 --> 01:41:28,540
You're right. I agree with that.
1788
01:41:28,624 --> 01:41:30,876
See, it's heart, it's not-- it's not head.
1789
01:41:30,959 --> 01:41:34,171
["The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll"
resumes]
1790
01:41:39,718 --> 01:41:42,221
♪ Hattie Carroll was
A maid of the kitchen ♪
1791
01:41:42,638 --> 01:41:46,225
♪ She was fifty-one years old
And gave birth to ten children ♪
1792
01:41:46,725 --> 01:41:50,521
♪ She cleaned up the dishes
Hauled out the garbage ♪
1793
01:41:50,896 --> 01:41:53,816
♪ And never sat once
At the head of the table ♪
1794
01:41:54,608 --> 01:41:57,945
♪ She just cleaned up
All the food from the table ♪
1795
01:41:58,529 --> 01:42:01,824
♪ And emptied the ashtrays
On a whole other level ♪
1796
01:42:02,282 --> 01:42:06,078
♪ Got killed by a blow
Lay slain by a cane ♪
1797
01:42:06,245 --> 01:42:09,915
♪ That sailed through the air
And came down through the room ♪
1798
01:42:10,290 --> 01:42:13,794
♪ Doomed and determined
To destroy all the gentle ♪
1799
01:42:14,002 --> 01:42:17,881
♪ And she never done nothing
To William Zanzinger ♪
1800
01:42:20,801 --> 01:42:27,516
♪ Yes, and you who philosophize disgrace
And criticize all fears ♪
1801
01:42:28,809 --> 01:42:32,771
♪ Take the rag away from your face ♪
1802
01:42:32,855 --> 01:42:36,066
♪ Now ain't the time for your tears ♪
1803
01:43:00,007 --> 01:43:03,552
♪ In the courtroom of honor
The judge pounded his gavel ♪
1804
01:43:04,094 --> 01:43:07,681
♪ To show that all's equal
And that the courts are on the level ♪
1805
01:43:07,890 --> 01:43:11,310
♪ That the strings in the books
Ain't pulled and persuaded ♪
1806
01:43:11,852 --> 01:43:15,480
♪ And that even the nobles
Get properly handled ♪
1807
01:43:15,856 --> 01:43:19,484
♪ Once that the cops
Have chased after and caught 'em ♪
1808
01:43:19,735 --> 01:43:22,946
♪ That the ladder of law
Has no top and no bottom ♪
1809
01:43:23,655 --> 01:43:27,326
♪ Stared at the person
Who killed for no reason ♪
1810
01:43:27,492 --> 01:43:31,288
♪ Who just happened to be feelin'
That way without warnin' ♪
1811
01:43:31,455 --> 01:43:35,375
♪ And he spoke through his cloak
So deep and distinguished ♪
1812
01:43:35,709 --> 01:43:39,171
♪ Handed out strongly
For penalty and repentance ♪
1813
01:43:39,421 --> 01:43:43,383
♪ William Zanzinger
With a six-month sentence ♪
1814
01:43:46,011 --> 01:43:49,806
♪ Yes, and you who philosophize disgrace ♪
1815
01:43:49,932 --> 01:43:52,851
♪ And criticize all fear ♪
1816
01:43:54,186 --> 01:43:57,814
♪ Bury the rag deep in your face ♪
1817
01:43:58,148 --> 01:44:01,151
♪ Now is the time for your tears ♪
1818
01:44:22,506 --> 01:44:24,591
[audience cheering]
1819
01:44:25,092 --> 01:44:27,678
♪ But sleep won't come ♪
1820
01:44:29,388 --> 01:44:31,515
♪ The whole night through ♪
1821
01:44:33,642 --> 01:44:37,646
♪ Your cheatin' heart ♪
1822
01:44:37,938 --> 01:44:39,898
♪ Will tell on you ♪
1823
01:44:42,317 --> 01:44:45,570
♪ You'll walk the floor ♪
1824
01:44:46,655 --> 01:44:49,241
♪ And shout my name ♪
1825
01:44:50,951 --> 01:44:52,411
[man on phone]
The hours are creeping down.
1826
01:44:52,494 --> 01:44:55,122
-We got to get the story.
-[Sloman on phone] I'm getting it!
1827
01:44:55,205 --> 01:44:58,417
I'm only up all fuckin' night
when the hours are creeping down.
1828
01:44:59,042 --> 01:45:01,044
[man] Well, I mean,
you had two fuckin' weeks, Larry.
1829
01:45:01,128 --> 01:45:01,962
[Sloman] To do what?
1830
01:45:02,045 --> 01:45:05,215
-[man] To get a story, instead of--
-[Sloman] I gave you a story, I gave you--
1831
01:45:05,299 --> 01:45:07,426
[man] That had a lot
of fuckin' holes in it.
1832
01:45:07,509 --> 01:45:09,928
-[Sloman] Well, but you're a bureaucrat.
-[man] Oh, bullshit.
1833
01:45:10,012 --> 01:45:11,888
-Where do you get that crap?
-[Sloman] You ask--
1834
01:45:11,972 --> 01:45:13,932
You are a bureaucrat.
You ask me fuckin'...
1835
01:45:14,016 --> 01:45:15,934
uh, Wall Street Journal questions.
1836
01:45:16,018 --> 01:45:17,978
-[man] Bullshit.
-[Sloman] Those are the questions--
1837
01:45:18,061 --> 01:45:19,771
[man] Everybody in the fuckin' country
wants to know--
1838
01:45:19,855 --> 01:45:23,066
[Sloman] You're asking me
music business questions, man.
1839
01:45:23,483 --> 01:45:24,651
[man] That's part of it, isn't it?
1840
01:45:24,735 --> 01:45:26,403
[Sloman] But that's not
what the kids wanna read.
1841
01:45:26,486 --> 01:45:29,281
-[man] How do you know?
-[Sloman] I know kids, man! I ask them.
1842
01:45:29,364 --> 01:45:33,118
[Dylan] ♪ ...and call my name ♪
1843
01:45:33,201 --> 01:45:36,288
[Sloman] Rolling Stone magazine
was interested in the economics,
1844
01:45:36,371 --> 01:45:38,290
how much are these people getting paid...
1845
01:45:38,373 --> 01:45:41,084
You know, why are they playing
bigger halls as the tour went on?
1846
01:45:41,168 --> 01:45:43,128
Those were the kind of questions
they were asking,
1847
01:45:43,211 --> 01:45:44,629
and I didn't give a shit about that.
1848
01:45:44,713 --> 01:45:48,717
I mean, what I was concerned with was,
you know, chronicling this...
1849
01:45:49,593 --> 01:45:51,470
this, uh, cultural event.
1850
01:45:52,846 --> 01:45:55,182
-[man] Can I offer you a beer?
-[van Dorp] Sure.
1851
01:45:57,184 --> 01:45:58,935
-[man] There we go.
-[van Dorp] Thank you.
1852
01:46:00,312 --> 01:46:02,689
[Gianopulos] There ain't too many Medicis
around these days,
1853
01:46:03,065 --> 01:46:06,276
and whether you're out on the road
with a lot of people,
1854
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:07,652
or you're making a movie,
1855
01:46:07,736 --> 01:46:11,031
or any kind of creative endeavor
that takes resources,
1856
01:46:11,865 --> 01:46:12,741
you need money.
1857
01:46:12,949 --> 01:46:15,410
And you gotta go to somebody
who believes
1858
01:46:15,494 --> 01:46:18,497
that they're gonna get their money back
and maybe a little more.
1859
01:46:18,580 --> 01:46:21,583
So, yeah,
there's always this natural tension
1860
01:46:21,666 --> 01:46:22,918
between art and commerce.
1861
01:46:23,001 --> 01:46:25,003
[man 1] Okay, how 'bout--
We gotta cut one of Jack's.
1862
01:46:25,087 --> 01:46:28,173
-[Ginsberg] He says to cut "Muleskinner."
-[man 2] He wants to cut "Muleskinner."
1863
01:46:28,256 --> 01:46:30,217
[man 1] All right. Okay.
1864
01:46:31,051 --> 01:46:32,719
[Kemp] I'll talk to Bob about this.
1865
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:36,515
-All right, Allen's gonna do something?
-Five minutes. Very brief.
1866
01:46:36,598 --> 01:46:39,351
[Kemp] You got a whole different audience.
Did you look at those people?
1867
01:46:39,434 --> 01:46:42,354
They're not familiar with Dylan or Baez
or anybody else.
1868
01:46:42,437 --> 01:46:43,271
Right.
1869
01:46:43,355 --> 01:46:45,690
[Kemp] If you go up and spill poetry
for any length of time,
1870
01:46:45,774 --> 01:46:47,734
they're gonna be, you know, gone,
you know?
1871
01:46:47,818 --> 01:46:49,319
[man 1] Make it two minutes, Allen.
1872
01:46:49,403 --> 01:46:51,238
[Kemp] Two minutes is plenty,
I'm telling you.
1873
01:46:51,321 --> 01:46:52,864
-Okay.
-[man 1] What about more cuts?
1874
01:46:52,948 --> 01:46:54,866
-Two minutes.
-[Neuwirth] We're still cutting.
1875
01:46:54,950 --> 01:46:57,202
[Blakley] The show was originally
three hours.
1876
01:46:57,285 --> 01:47:00,372
Ginsberg, who appeared
in the show originally,
1877
01:47:00,997 --> 01:47:04,584
there was not enough time for him
to perform during the show,
1878
01:47:04,668 --> 01:47:06,711
so his section was cut.
1879
01:47:10,715 --> 01:47:13,760
[Blakley] He and Peter Orlovsky
became the baggage handlers.
1880
01:47:15,137 --> 01:47:18,807
We would put our bags outside the door,
and he would take them every day.
1881
01:47:19,641 --> 01:47:21,059
You're a fuckin' luggage handler?
1882
01:47:21,143 --> 01:47:23,645
-God, yeah, and I give massages sometimes.
-You're a poet!
1883
01:47:23,728 --> 01:47:26,314
I make myself useful around, on the, uh...
1884
01:47:27,023 --> 01:47:31,403
Uh... helping Chris with the newsletter
and putting out the newsletter.
1885
01:47:31,486 --> 01:47:32,904
-You do errands?
-Errands, right.
1886
01:47:32,988 --> 01:47:34,531
I can't believe this shit.
1887
01:47:34,614 --> 01:47:37,367
What kind of tour is this?
You're a fuckin' great poet, Peter.
1888
01:47:37,451 --> 01:47:40,871
I'm learning-- Been practicing banjo,
and I've been sitting every morning...
1889
01:47:40,954 --> 01:47:44,166
Uh, tomorrow morning, we're gonna sit
with Allen for one hour.
1890
01:47:44,249 --> 01:47:46,585
-To do what?
-After we wake up, sit and meditate.
1891
01:47:49,087 --> 01:47:51,423
[van Dorp] At a party
at Gordon Lightfoot's house,
1892
01:47:51,506 --> 01:47:52,966
Toronto, Canada.
1893
01:48:01,558 --> 01:48:04,227
-[folk music playing]
-[indistinct chatter]
1894
01:48:07,647 --> 01:48:10,484
[indistinct vocalizing]
1895
01:48:19,117 --> 01:48:22,496
[McGuinn] Joni Mitchell, she would go out
and do her new songs.
1896
01:48:22,579 --> 01:48:23,872
She wouldn't do any hits.
1897
01:48:24,289 --> 01:48:27,459
And the audience reaction
was a little sort of muted
1898
01:48:27,542 --> 01:48:28,835
for these new songs,
1899
01:48:28,919 --> 01:48:31,421
as it usually is when artists
try to do new songs.
1900
01:48:31,505 --> 01:48:33,548
And I remember,
she came off and she said,
1901
01:48:33,632 --> 01:48:36,927
"McGuinn, I don't know why
I'm so scared out there. I just don't..."
1902
01:48:37,010 --> 01:48:38,553
I said, "You're just doing new songs.
1903
01:48:38,637 --> 01:48:40,430
You ought to do something
that they recognize,
1904
01:48:40,514 --> 01:48:42,349
and then they'll, you know, loosen up."
1905
01:48:42,432 --> 01:48:45,727
She said, "No, no, I-- I can't do that.
I think that's a bad idea."
1906
01:48:50,607 --> 01:48:51,650
[laughs]
1907
01:48:52,025 --> 01:48:56,196
[McGuinn] I admired her for her courage
to do the new stuff only.
1908
01:48:58,615 --> 01:49:00,909
[McGuinn] Joni wrote this song
about this tour,
1909
01:49:00,992 --> 01:49:03,370
and on this tour, and for this tour.
1910
01:49:03,703 --> 01:49:05,705
[continues strumming guitar]
1911
01:49:23,014 --> 01:49:24,182
Okay, D-minor now.
1912
01:49:28,603 --> 01:49:30,063
Yeah, some dissonance.
1913
01:49:31,356 --> 01:49:37,153
[Sloman] I had been loudly proclaiming
that my three favorite male songwriters
1914
01:49:37,529 --> 01:49:40,156
were Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen,
and Kinky Friedman.
1915
01:49:40,949 --> 01:49:45,870
So, Joni started interrogating me
backstage one day, saying,
1916
01:49:46,621 --> 01:49:48,206
"What do you mean, male?
1917
01:49:48,290 --> 01:49:50,458
Why do you make that distinction,
male songwriters?
1918
01:49:50,542 --> 01:49:52,210
I mean, what about my stuff?
1919
01:49:52,419 --> 01:49:55,338
I mean, don't you characterize my stuff,
like, you know,
1920
01:49:55,422 --> 01:49:57,882
in the same league as Bob
and Leonard Cohen?"
1921
01:49:57,966 --> 01:49:59,968
[guitar playing]
1922
01:50:00,552 --> 01:50:02,637
[Sloman] And we got into
this long discussion about,
1923
01:50:02,721 --> 01:50:06,182
well, the male versus female perspective,
and anima-animus,
1924
01:50:06,266 --> 01:50:08,810
and, you know, male-female dynamic,
and everything, you know.
1925
01:50:08,893 --> 01:50:12,731
But it became this long,
drawn-out confrontation,
1926
01:50:12,814 --> 01:50:14,274
and we bonded on that.
1927
01:50:15,442 --> 01:50:17,152
♪ No regrets, Coyote ♪
1928
01:50:17,861 --> 01:50:20,905
♪ We just come from such different sets
Of circumstance ♪
1929
01:50:20,989 --> 01:50:22,699
♪ I'm up all night in the studios ♪
1930
01:50:22,782 --> 01:50:26,453
♪ And you're up early on your ranch ♪
1931
01:50:26,995 --> 01:50:29,289
♪ Brushing out a broodmare's tail ♪
1932
01:50:29,456 --> 01:50:31,041
♪ While the sun is ascending ♪
1933
01:50:31,124 --> 01:50:34,961
♪ And I'll just be getting home
With my reel-to-reel ♪
1934
01:50:35,545 --> 01:50:37,255
♪ There's no comprehending ♪
1935
01:50:38,006 --> 01:50:40,425
♪ Just how close
To the bone and the skin ♪
1936
01:50:40,675 --> 01:50:43,428
♪ And the eyes and the lips you can get ♪
1937
01:50:43,887 --> 01:50:46,389
♪ And still feel so alone ♪
1938
01:50:46,931 --> 01:50:49,059
♪ And still feel related ♪
1939
01:50:49,517 --> 01:50:51,519
♪ Like stations in a relay ♪
1940
01:50:51,936 --> 01:50:54,939
♪ You're not a hit-and-run driver
No, no ♪
1941
01:50:55,565 --> 01:50:57,150
♪ Racing away ♪
1942
01:50:58,234 --> 01:51:00,070
♪ You just picked up a hitcher ♪
1943
01:51:00,654 --> 01:51:05,408
♪ A prisoner of the white lines
On the freeway ♪
1944
01:51:15,418 --> 01:51:17,462
♪ We saw a farmhouse burning down ♪
1945
01:51:18,296 --> 01:51:21,007
♪ In the middle of nowhere
In the middle of the night ♪
1946
01:51:21,132 --> 01:51:23,343
♪ And we rolled right past that tragedy ♪
1947
01:51:23,551 --> 01:51:26,346
♪ Till we came to some roadside lights ♪
1948
01:51:26,638 --> 01:51:29,015
♪ And a local band was playing ♪
1949
01:51:29,099 --> 01:51:32,185
♪ Locals were mincin'
And shakin' on the floor ♪
1950
01:51:32,477 --> 01:51:33,978
♪ The next thing I know ♪
1951
01:51:35,271 --> 01:51:36,815
♪ That Coyote's at my door ♪
1952
01:51:37,899 --> 01:51:40,694
♪ And he pins me in a corner
And he won't take no ♪
1953
01:51:41,111 --> 01:51:42,946
♪ He drags me out on the dance floor ♪
1954
01:51:43,029 --> 01:51:46,032
♪ And we're dancin' close and slow ♪
1955
01:51:46,366 --> 01:51:48,493
♪ He's got a woman at home ♪
1956
01:51:48,827 --> 01:51:52,080
♪ One for the night
And now he wants one for the day ♪
1957
01:51:52,414 --> 01:51:56,501
♪ Oh, why'd you have to get so drunk
And lead me on that way? ♪
1958
01:51:57,711 --> 01:51:59,629
♪ You just picked up a hitcher ♪
1959
01:52:00,296 --> 01:52:04,467
♪ A prisoner of the white lines
And the freeway ♪
1960
01:52:28,241 --> 01:52:30,243
[song ends]
1961
01:52:32,036 --> 01:52:32,871
[chuckles]
1962
01:52:32,954 --> 01:52:34,581
[Dylan] Let's call Hopper, man.
1963
01:52:34,664 --> 01:52:36,458
[McGuinn] Fuck yeah.
Let me change channels.
1964
01:52:36,541 --> 01:52:38,251
[Blakley] Why do you have that?
1965
01:52:38,334 --> 01:52:39,878
[man 1] What are you on, channel 31?
1966
01:52:39,961 --> 01:52:41,796
-[man 2] Uh, give me, uh...
-[Dylan] Okay.
1967
01:52:42,005 --> 01:52:42,839
[man 1] Okay.
1968
01:52:42,922 --> 01:52:45,967
[group] ♪ I took my troubles
Down to Madame Rue ♪
1969
01:52:46,885 --> 01:52:49,971
♪ You know that gypsy
With the gold-capped tooth ♪
1970
01:52:50,555 --> 01:52:53,892
♪ She's got a pad
Down on Thirty-Fourth and Vine ♪
1971
01:52:54,392 --> 01:52:59,564
♪ Sellin' little bottles
Of Love Potion Number Nine ♪
1972
01:52:59,647 --> 01:53:01,065
[Ginsberg] What poetry is,
1973
01:53:01,941 --> 01:53:04,861
the natural object, where we are now,
1974
01:53:04,944 --> 01:53:06,696
is always adequate symbol,
1975
01:53:06,780 --> 01:53:09,616
so you don't have
to invent romantic myths,
1976
01:53:10,033 --> 01:53:12,702
diamond dancers on oceansides.
1977
01:53:13,953 --> 01:53:18,124
The scratching of the pen
or the noise in the back of the bar
1978
01:53:18,541 --> 01:53:19,667
is part of the music.
1979
01:53:21,211 --> 01:53:24,756
♪ She bent down, turned around
And gave me a wink ♪
1980
01:53:25,006 --> 01:53:28,384
♪ She said, "I'm gonna mix it up
Right here in the sink" ♪
1981
01:53:28,718 --> 01:53:30,553
♪ It smelled like turpentine... ♪
1982
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:33,848
[Jimmy Carter]
I've never had more faith in America
1983
01:53:34,516 --> 01:53:35,558
than I do today.
1984
01:53:36,351 --> 01:53:37,644
We have an America
1985
01:53:38,186 --> 01:53:39,896
that, in Bob Dylan's phrase,
1986
01:53:40,438 --> 01:53:42,190
is busy being born,
1987
01:53:43,525 --> 01:53:44,776
not busy dying.
1988
01:53:45,485 --> 01:53:46,778
[audience applauds]
1989
01:53:48,154 --> 01:53:50,990
[man] I was very enamored
of Jimmy Carter.
1990
01:53:51,074 --> 01:53:54,994
He-- I thought he was a really soulful,
interesting guy,
1991
01:53:55,078 --> 01:53:56,246
and he liked me.
1992
01:53:56,788 --> 01:53:59,874
So, you know, I maintained
a relationship with him for a long time.
1993
01:53:59,958 --> 01:54:01,167
And he's the guy
1994
01:54:01,709 --> 01:54:05,338
who got me into the Rolling Thunder
concert that night.
1995
01:54:05,547 --> 01:54:06,756
Jimmy Carter. [chuckles]
1996
01:54:07,340 --> 01:54:08,508
Which is another story.
1997
01:54:09,467 --> 01:54:13,137
I was-- I was one of the youngest members
of the Congress.
1998
01:54:13,221 --> 01:54:14,931
And so I was, um...
1999
01:54:16,140 --> 01:54:19,269
Yeah, I mean,
I was torn between two generations there.
2000
01:54:19,352 --> 01:54:22,480
I was being pulled in both...
You know, you want to get anything done,
2001
01:54:22,564 --> 01:54:24,691
you have to get along
with people in the Congress.
2002
01:54:24,858 --> 01:54:28,361
You know, you don't get anything done
anymore because nobody wants to, but...
2003
01:54:28,736 --> 01:54:30,905
in my day you, you know,
you made an effort
2004
01:54:31,155 --> 01:54:32,365
to get along with these guys.
2005
01:54:32,448 --> 01:54:34,492
And most of them were considerably older
than I was.
2006
01:54:34,576 --> 01:54:38,413
And Dylan was considered the enemy,
really, by a lot of these guys.
2007
01:54:38,746 --> 01:54:41,541
I had grown up in this era where,
you know, you wanted to be an adult,
2008
01:54:41,624 --> 01:54:44,085
you wanted to drink a martini
with your dad, you know.
2009
01:54:44,168 --> 01:54:45,211
And now...
2010
01:54:45,503 --> 01:54:48,131
you know, "Never trust anybody over 30."
Right?
2011
01:54:48,214 --> 01:54:51,092
And I'm caught in the middle of this,
and I'm dealing in the Congress
2012
01:54:51,175 --> 01:54:52,760
with all these old guys, and...
2013
01:54:52,927 --> 01:54:55,555
[laughs]
You know, it's an interesting conundrum.
2014
01:54:56,598 --> 01:54:59,517
[Jimmy Carter on recording] My own
interest in the criminal justice system
2015
01:54:59,601 --> 01:55:00,935
is very heartfelt.
2016
01:55:01,436 --> 01:55:03,646
One of the sources
for my understanding about
2017
01:55:03,771 --> 01:55:05,523
what's right and wrong in this society
2018
01:55:05,607 --> 01:55:08,318
is from a personal,
very close friend of mine
2019
01:55:08,693 --> 01:55:10,653
a great poet named Bob Dylan.
2020
01:55:11,696 --> 01:55:15,199
After listening to his records
about "The Ballad of Hattie Carroll"
2021
01:55:15,283 --> 01:55:17,160
and "Like a Rolling Stone,"
2022
01:55:17,744 --> 01:55:23,666
I've learned to appreciate the dynamism
of change in a modern society.
2023
01:55:24,542 --> 01:55:27,587
I grew up as a landowner's son,
2024
01:55:27,962 --> 01:55:31,132
but I don't think I ever realized
that the proper interrelationship
2025
01:55:31,215 --> 01:55:33,968
between the landowner
and those who worked on a farm
2026
01:55:34,385 --> 01:55:36,846
until I heard Dylan's record,
2027
01:55:36,930 --> 01:55:39,349
"I Ain't Gonna Work On Maggie's Farm
No More."
2028
01:55:40,433 --> 01:55:42,894
[Tanner] So I went to this meeting,
I believe it was in Atlanta.
2029
01:55:43,478 --> 01:55:47,690
Jimmy was there,
and he and I spoke about a few things.
2030
01:55:47,774 --> 01:55:51,402
And I can't remember exactly
what was left unsaid,
2031
01:55:51,486 --> 01:55:54,072
but I told him that I would call him back
that night,
2032
01:55:54,155 --> 01:55:56,074
and we were gonna finish
this conversation.
2033
01:55:56,157 --> 01:55:57,700
I had to get to the airport.
2034
01:55:58,201 --> 01:56:00,328
So I get on the flight,
I'm trying to get home.
2035
01:56:00,828 --> 01:56:05,375
And I got caught in a storm,
and we got diverted to Niagara Falls.
2036
01:56:06,042 --> 01:56:08,962
And I get stashed
in this cheesy little motel
2037
01:56:09,045 --> 01:56:10,546
that the airline put us up in.
2038
01:56:11,005 --> 01:56:12,674
I called Jimmy to say
I hadn't reached home,
2039
01:56:12,757 --> 01:56:15,009
but we could talk tomorrow,
and he said, "Where are you?"
2040
01:56:15,093 --> 01:56:17,387
And I said, "I'm in Niagara Falls."
And he says, "Well,
2041
01:56:17,470 --> 01:56:19,764
you just hit the jackpot because--
2042
01:56:19,847 --> 01:56:22,934
because Bob Dylan's
doing this Rolling Thunder concert
2043
01:56:23,017 --> 01:56:25,144
there tonight, and you can go."
2044
01:56:25,603 --> 01:56:29,232
[laughs] He said, "I'll call him
and I'll get you in."
2045
01:56:29,691 --> 01:56:32,151
-[indistinct chatter]
-[man] Dylan!
2046
01:56:33,069 --> 01:56:34,862
[woman] Dylan, you're beautiful!
2047
01:56:35,613 --> 01:56:36,698
[fanfare plays]
2048
01:56:36,823 --> 01:56:39,325
[Hurdley] Uncle Sam is going to sing
2049
01:56:39,409 --> 01:56:42,537
one of his versions
of "The Star-Spangled Banner."
2050
01:56:42,787 --> 01:56:43,746
Ladies and gentlemen...
2051
01:56:43,830 --> 01:56:46,541
[Ginsberg] I saw
the best minds of my generation
2052
01:56:46,624 --> 01:56:48,334
destroyed by madness,
2053
01:56:48,418 --> 01:56:49,627
starving hysterical...
2054
01:56:49,752 --> 01:56:52,255
[La Farge] This song about a human being
2055
01:56:52,338 --> 01:56:53,589
who is also an Indian.
2056
01:56:55,550 --> 01:56:58,803
-[man] "Let America be America again."
-[La Farge] And if you don't remember...
2057
01:56:58,886 --> 01:57:00,972
[man] "Let it be the dream it used to be."
2058
01:57:03,141 --> 01:57:06,019
[intro to "Hurricane" playing]
2059
01:57:08,312 --> 01:57:09,939
[woman] No, I'm sorry, you-- you can't...
2060
01:57:10,023 --> 01:57:12,859
-Excuse me. You can't shoot in here.
-[man] You need authorization.
2061
01:57:12,942 --> 01:57:14,819
[woman] You cannot shoot in here, sir.
2062
01:57:14,902 --> 01:57:17,780
-[van Dorp] Why can't I shoot in here?
-He's running the camera.
2063
01:57:17,864 --> 01:57:19,323
[man] What organization are you from?
2064
01:57:19,407 --> 01:57:21,117
[indistinct murmuring]
2065
01:57:21,826 --> 01:57:23,494
[man 2] Do you know
where you're going to?
2066
01:57:23,578 --> 01:57:25,121
I don't know. You'll have to ask him.
2067
01:57:26,539 --> 01:57:30,501
I'm sorry you had the hassle.
Uh, we didn't know you were coming.
2068
01:57:31,335 --> 01:57:32,295
Obviously.
2069
01:57:32,378 --> 01:57:34,088
[Kemp] We just happened to be
in the neighborhood.
2070
01:57:34,172 --> 01:57:37,050
-I heard it was you.
-I brought a friend if you don't mind.
2071
01:57:37,133 --> 01:57:40,011
No, I don't mind, but I'm sorry
you had any trouble downstairs.
2072
01:57:40,094 --> 01:57:41,554
Uh, Irwin, this is Bob.
2073
01:57:41,637 --> 01:57:42,847
-How are you?
-[Dylan] Good.
2074
01:57:42,930 --> 01:57:44,182
But if you're looking...
2075
01:57:45,224 --> 01:57:46,726
to help the guy, in effect,
2076
01:57:46,934 --> 01:57:50,646
you know, and your purpose is a social one
rather than a record one,
2077
01:57:51,022 --> 01:57:54,275
then I think it probably would make sense,
you know, to comment, you know, early.
2078
01:57:54,358 --> 01:57:56,986
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know what your motivations are.
2079
01:57:57,320 --> 01:57:59,781
You're kind of throwing it out
and I haven't given a lot of thought.
2080
01:57:59,864 --> 01:58:01,532
I think there's a Top 40 AM problem.
2081
01:58:01,616 --> 01:58:05,453
Conversely,
there may be a lot of black radio play,
2082
01:58:05,536 --> 01:58:06,954
for example, in the east.
2083
01:58:07,205 --> 01:58:09,916
-[Yetnikoff] Or you make it AM play.
-So WWRL would--
2084
01:58:09,999 --> 01:58:12,835
[Yetnikoff] It's a Bob Dylan statement,
that it is unique.
2085
01:58:12,919 --> 01:58:14,212
Whoever wants to play it can play it,
2086
01:58:14,295 --> 01:58:15,922
but the idea is he wants it
on the streets,
2087
01:58:16,005 --> 01:58:18,257
so people can do with it what they want.
2088
01:58:18,341 --> 01:58:19,842
[Yetnikoff] But with those caveats,
2089
01:58:19,926 --> 01:58:22,970
your motivation is to try to do
what you can for the guy,
2090
01:58:23,054 --> 01:58:25,431
then it probably makes sense
to do it as quickly as possible.
2091
01:58:25,515 --> 01:58:27,809
-That's the motivation.
-[Yetnikoff] Uh...
2092
01:58:27,892 --> 01:58:31,104
[Dylan] ♪ Pistol shots ring out
In a barroom night ♪
2093
01:58:31,646 --> 01:58:35,358
♪ Enter Patty Valentine
From the upper hall ♪
2094
01:58:35,775 --> 01:58:39,028
♪ She sees the bartender
In a pool of blood ♪
2095
01:58:39,612 --> 01:58:43,199
♪ Cries out, "My God
They killed them all"... ♪
2096
01:58:43,282 --> 01:58:46,452
If they can get it out on the street
in a week that's, you know, that's good.
2097
01:58:46,536 --> 01:58:47,995
That's what they were talking about.
2098
01:58:49,122 --> 01:58:52,041
[Sloman] Rubin Carter
was an amazing boxer,
2099
01:58:52,125 --> 01:58:53,000
middleweight,
2100
01:58:53,084 --> 01:58:54,794
who had been framed
2101
01:58:55,419 --> 01:58:57,713
for a murder in New Jersey
2102
01:58:57,797 --> 01:59:01,425
and was languishing now
in Rahway State Prison.
2103
01:59:02,677 --> 01:59:04,262
[Sloman] Bob wrote this incredible song,
2104
01:59:04,846 --> 01:59:08,641
"Hurricane," and was very concerned
about getting him out.
2105
01:59:09,267 --> 01:59:12,854
I'd written songs about boxers before,
so that was nothing new, but, uh...
2106
01:59:13,938 --> 01:59:16,357
I hadn't really thought about,
uh, Hurricane...
2107
01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:19,318
because I didn't know about Hurricane.
2108
01:59:19,610 --> 01:59:20,444
Uh...
2109
01:59:21,028 --> 01:59:21,904
It...
2110
01:59:23,114 --> 01:59:24,949
It never really crossed my path.
2111
01:59:26,367 --> 01:59:27,910
[young Dylan] I got the book. I read it.
2112
01:59:27,994 --> 01:59:30,997
Um, I, you know, made a mental note
that if I was coming east,
2113
01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:33,249
or if I was east, I would, uh, visit him.
2114
01:59:33,499 --> 01:59:36,294
We were there for, you know,
most of the day,
2115
01:59:36,377 --> 01:59:37,628
as far as I can remember.
2116
01:59:37,837 --> 01:59:40,923
Uh, we got there in the morning
and then left him when it was dark.
2117
01:59:41,757 --> 01:59:43,217
I realized the man's philosophy
2118
01:59:43,301 --> 01:59:46,679
and my philosophy were running
on the same road.
2119
01:59:46,888 --> 01:59:49,765
You know, and, uh,
you don't meet too many people like that,
2120
01:59:49,849 --> 01:59:55,062
you know, that you just know that kinda
on the same path, mentally, you know.
2121
01:59:55,146 --> 01:59:56,272
[Sloman] Yeah.
2122
01:59:56,355 --> 02:00:00,401
Dylan was different than other people
who came to see me.
2123
02:00:00,776 --> 02:00:03,571
I mean, other people would ask
the obvious questions.
2124
02:00:03,654 --> 02:00:05,198
"Rubin, are you guilty?"
2125
02:00:05,573 --> 02:00:08,784
You know, "Did you commit this crime?"
"Did you do that?" You know.
2126
02:00:08,868 --> 02:00:10,328
But Dylan wasn't asking that.
2127
02:00:10,828 --> 02:00:14,373
Not at all. It seemed
like he was searching for something else.
2128
02:00:14,665 --> 02:00:16,417
It was as if he was saying,
2129
02:00:17,543 --> 02:00:18,544
"Who are you, man?"
2130
02:00:19,045 --> 02:00:21,422
You know, "Are you what I see?"
2131
02:00:22,590 --> 02:00:26,928
I had a friend of mine send me his lyrics
to his songs,
2132
02:00:27,511 --> 02:00:29,138
and so I could read his lyrics,
2133
02:00:29,222 --> 02:00:33,601
so I can get an-- an idea
of who I'm talkin' to here, you know.
2134
02:00:34,518 --> 02:00:35,353
And...
2135
02:00:35,853 --> 02:00:39,523
I found something
that was, uh, very interesting. Very...
2136
02:00:39,857 --> 02:00:41,234
That really connected us.
2137
02:00:41,525 --> 02:00:46,280
Both of us were... were performers
and crowd-pleasers.
2138
02:00:46,572 --> 02:00:49,033
You know, me with the vicious left hook,
2139
02:00:49,825 --> 02:00:54,080
you know, whose parents grew up
in the Jim Crow South,
2140
02:00:54,664 --> 02:01:00,378
and Dylan, uh, you know, with his... uh...
the troubadour.
2141
02:01:00,836 --> 02:01:03,631
[Sloman] So you got back, and you had
the germ of an idea to do a song?
2142
02:01:03,714 --> 02:01:04,799
-[Dylan] Yeah.
-[Sloman] Why?
2143
02:01:04,882 --> 02:01:07,176
I mean, you know,
is this a return to protest...
2144
02:01:07,301 --> 02:01:08,594
I mean... [chuckles]
2145
02:01:08,678 --> 02:01:11,681
You know,
is this, uh, "Hattie Carroll" revisited?
2146
02:01:12,932 --> 02:01:15,851
[Dylan] Um, there's an injustice
that has been done, you know.
2147
02:01:15,935 --> 02:01:18,437
And the fact is
that it can happen to anybody.
2148
02:01:18,521 --> 02:01:19,897
-[Sloman] Mm-hmm.
-[Dylan] You know?
2149
02:01:19,981 --> 02:01:22,525
-And we have to be confronted with that.
-[Sloman] So-- So--
2150
02:01:23,025 --> 02:01:25,027
[Dylan] This song is called "Hurricane."
2151
02:01:25,278 --> 02:01:26,612
[audience cheers]
2152
02:01:26,821 --> 02:01:28,864
If you got any political pull at all,
2153
02:01:28,948 --> 02:01:31,367
maybe you can help us get this man
out of jail,
2154
02:01:31,993 --> 02:01:33,536
back onto the streets.
2155
02:01:41,919 --> 02:01:45,256
["Hurricane" playing]
2156
02:01:58,477 --> 02:02:01,314
♪ Pistol shots ring out
In the barroom night ♪
2157
02:02:01,814 --> 02:02:04,817
♪ Enter Patty Valentine
From the outer hall ♪
2158
02:02:05,276 --> 02:02:07,987
♪ She sees the bartender
In a pool of blood ♪
2159
02:02:08,279 --> 02:02:11,282
♪ Cries out, "My God,
They've killed 'em all!" ♪
2160
02:02:11,949 --> 02:02:14,410
♪ Here comes the story of the Hurricane ♪
2161
02:02:15,328 --> 02:02:17,705
♪ The man the authorities came to blame ♪
2162
02:02:18,581 --> 02:02:20,583
♪ For somethin' that he never done ♪
2163
02:02:21,876 --> 02:02:25,421
♪ Put in a prison cell
But one time he coulda been ♪
2164
02:02:25,671 --> 02:02:27,965
♪ The champion of the world ♪
2165
02:02:36,599 --> 02:02:38,893
♪ Three bodies lyin' there
Does Patty see ♪
2166
02:02:39,894 --> 02:02:43,064
♪ And another man named Bello
Movin' mysteriously ♪
2167
02:02:43,189 --> 02:02:45,941
♪ "I didn't do it," he says
And he throws up his hands ♪
2168
02:02:46,025 --> 02:02:49,362
♪ "I was only robbin' the register
You understand ♪
2169
02:02:49,737 --> 02:02:52,323
♪ I saw them leave, though" he says
And he stops ♪
2170
02:02:52,990 --> 02:02:55,618
♪ "One of us had better
Call on the cops" ♪
2171
02:02:56,243 --> 02:02:58,412
♪ And so Patty calls the cops ♪
2172
02:02:59,538 --> 02:03:03,167
♪ And they arrive on the scene
With their red lights flashin' ♪
2173
02:03:03,250 --> 02:03:05,169
♪ In the hot New Jersey night ♪
2174
02:03:14,011 --> 02:03:16,514
♪ Meanwhile, far away
In another part of town ♪
2175
02:03:16,680 --> 02:03:19,892
♪ Rubin Carter and a couple of friends
Are drivin' around ♪
2176
02:03:20,142 --> 02:03:23,062
♪ Number one contender
For the middleweight crown ♪
2177
02:03:23,354 --> 02:03:26,524
♪ Had no idea what kinda shit
Was about to go down ♪
2178
02:03:27,066 --> 02:03:29,568
♪ When a cop pulled him over
To the side of the road ♪
2179
02:03:30,194 --> 02:03:33,114
♪ Just like the time before
And the time before that ♪
2180
02:03:33,197 --> 02:03:35,574
♪ In Paterson, that's the way things go ♪
2181
02:03:35,908 --> 02:03:40,079
♪ If you're black, you might as well
Not show up on the streets ♪
2182
02:03:40,287 --> 02:03:42,832
♪ 'Less you want to draw the heat ♪
2183
02:03:51,048 --> 02:03:53,634
♪ Alfred Bello, he laid this rap
On the cops ♪
2184
02:03:53,717 --> 02:03:56,804
♪ "Me and Arthur Dexter Bradley
Were in here prowlin' around ♪
2185
02:03:57,138 --> 02:04:00,141
♪ We saw two men runnin' out of here
They looked like middleweights ♪
2186
02:04:00,433 --> 02:04:03,686
♪ Jumped into a white car
With out-of-state plates" ♪
2187
02:04:04,061 --> 02:04:06,730
♪ And Miss Patty Valentine
Just nodded her head ♪
2188
02:04:06,856 --> 02:04:09,608
♪ Cop said, "Wait a minute, boys
This one's not dead" ♪
2189
02:04:09,692 --> 02:04:12,361
♪ So they took him to the infirmary ♪
2190
02:04:13,612 --> 02:04:15,573
♪ And though this man could hardly see ♪
2191
02:04:15,656 --> 02:04:19,452
♪ They told him that he could identify
The guilty men ♪
2192
02:04:27,960 --> 02:04:30,296
♪ Four in the mornin'
And they haul Rubin in ♪
2193
02:04:30,963 --> 02:04:34,049
♪ Took him to the hospital
And they brought him upstairs ♪
2194
02:04:34,133 --> 02:04:36,886
♪ The wounded man looks up
Through his one dyin' eye ♪
2195
02:04:37,136 --> 02:04:40,514
♪ Says, "Why'd you bring him in here for?
He ain't the guy!" ♪
2196
02:04:40,764 --> 02:04:43,184
♪ Yes, here's the story of the Hurricane ♪
2197
02:04:44,018 --> 02:04:46,395
♪ The man the authorities came to blame ♪
2198
02:04:47,229 --> 02:04:49,315
♪ For somethin' that he never done ♪
2199
02:04:50,399 --> 02:04:53,652
♪ Put in a prison cell
But one time he coulda been ♪
2200
02:04:54,069 --> 02:04:56,238
♪ The champion of the world ♪
2201
02:05:04,663 --> 02:05:07,291
♪ Four months later
The ghettos are in flame ♪
2202
02:05:07,625 --> 02:05:10,503
♪ Rubin's in South America
Fightin' for his name ♪
2203
02:05:11,086 --> 02:05:13,756
♪ Arthur Dexter Bradley's
Still in the robbery game ♪
2204
02:05:13,839 --> 02:05:15,591
♪ And the cops are
Puttin' the screws to him ♪
2205
02:05:15,674 --> 02:05:17,384
♪ Lookin' for someone to blame ♪
2206
02:05:17,593 --> 02:05:20,054
♪ "Remember that murder
That happened in a bar? ♪
2207
02:05:20,763 --> 02:05:23,265
♪ Remember you said you saw
The getaway car? ♪
2208
02:05:23,682 --> 02:05:26,227
♪ You think you'd like to play ball
With the law? ♪
2209
02:05:26,936 --> 02:05:30,356
♪ Think it mighta been that fighter
That you saw runnin' that night? ♪
2210
02:05:30,439 --> 02:05:33,817
♪ Don't forget now, you're white" ♪
2211
02:05:41,200 --> 02:05:43,911
♪ Arthur Dexter Bradley said
"I'm really not sure" ♪
2212
02:05:44,328 --> 02:05:46,914
♪ Cops said
"A poor boy like you could use a break ♪
2213
02:05:47,331 --> 02:05:50,626
♪ We got you for the motel job
We're talkin' to your friend Bello ♪
2214
02:05:50,709 --> 02:05:54,171
♪ You don't wanna have to go back to jail
Be a nice fellow ♪
2215
02:05:54,296 --> 02:05:56,882
♪ You'll be doin' society a favor ♪
2216
02:05:57,341 --> 02:06:00,177
♪That son of a bitch is brave
And gettin' braver ♪
2217
02:06:00,553 --> 02:06:02,680
♪ We want to put his ass in stir ♪
2218
02:06:03,764 --> 02:06:07,101
♪ We want to pin this triple murder
On him ♪
2219
02:06:07,393 --> 02:06:09,853
♪ He ain't no Gentleman Jim" ♪
2220
02:06:17,861 --> 02:06:20,614
♪ All of Rubin's cards were marked
In advance ♪
2221
02:06:20,906 --> 02:06:23,826
♪ The trial was a pig-circus
He never had a chance ♪
2222
02:06:24,076 --> 02:06:27,121
♪ The judge made Rubin's witnesses
Drunkards from the slums ♪
2223
02:06:27,204 --> 02:06:30,416
♪ To the white folks who watched
He was a revolutionary bum ♪
2224
02:06:30,749 --> 02:06:33,377
♪ And to the black folks
He was just a crazy nigger ♪
2225
02:06:34,128 --> 02:06:36,547
♪ No one doubted
That he pulled the trigger ♪
2226
02:06:37,172 --> 02:06:39,550
♪ And though they could not produce
The gun ♪
2227
02:06:40,342 --> 02:06:43,512
♪ The DA said he was the one
Who did the deed ♪
2228
02:06:43,762 --> 02:06:46,599
♪ And the all-white jury agreed ♪
2229
02:06:54,773 --> 02:06:56,984
♪ Rubin Carter was falsely tried ♪
2230
02:06:57,401 --> 02:07:00,279
♪ The crime was murder one
Guess who testified? ♪
2231
02:07:00,946 --> 02:07:03,282
♪ Bello and Bradley, and they both lied ♪
2232
02:07:03,741 --> 02:07:06,910
♪ And the newspapers
They all went along for the ride ♪
2233
02:07:07,286 --> 02:07:09,455
♪ How can the life of such a man ♪
2234
02:07:10,539 --> 02:07:13,000
♪ Be in the palm of some fool's hand? ♪
2235
02:07:13,459 --> 02:07:15,753
♪ To see him obviously framed ♪
2236
02:07:16,837 --> 02:07:20,174
♪ Couldn't help but make me feel ashamed
To live in a land ♪
2237
02:07:20,507 --> 02:07:23,135
♪ Where justice is a game ♪
2238
02:07:30,726 --> 02:07:33,687
♪ Now all the criminals
In their coats and their ties... ♪
2239
02:07:34,521 --> 02:07:37,858
[Tanner] "Now all the criminals
in their coats and ties
2240
02:07:37,941 --> 02:07:41,737
are free to drink martinis and watch the--
and watch the sun rise."
2241
02:07:42,154 --> 02:07:45,282
"While Rubin sits like Buddha
in a ten-foot cell,
2242
02:07:45,491 --> 02:07:47,534
an innocent man in a living hell."
2243
02:07:47,743 --> 02:07:49,745
I thought that was great.
2244
02:07:50,204 --> 02:07:53,374
Because the ballad of the Hurricane...
2245
02:07:54,208 --> 02:07:59,463
uh, sent an indelible message
of justice gone awry,
2246
02:08:00,089 --> 02:08:01,173
you know what I mean?
2247
02:08:01,298 --> 02:08:02,257
So... So...
2248
02:08:02,508 --> 02:08:07,388
Dylan doing that
spread the word far and wide.
2249
02:08:10,265 --> 02:08:12,476
[Dylan]
♪ That's the story of the Hurricane ♪
2250
02:08:13,394 --> 02:08:15,938
♪ But it won't be over
Till they clear his name ♪
2251
02:08:16,605 --> 02:08:18,774
♪ And give him back the time he's done ♪
2252
02:08:19,692 --> 02:08:23,237
♪ Put in a prison cell
But one time he coulda been ♪
2253
02:08:23,529 --> 02:08:26,532
♪ The champion of the world ♪
2254
02:08:29,827 --> 02:08:31,829
[audience cheers]
2255
02:08:34,456 --> 02:08:35,666
[both speaking indistinctly]
2256
02:08:35,749 --> 02:08:37,376
Let me introduce you to everybody.
2257
02:08:37,459 --> 02:08:38,669
[chuckles, speaks indistinctly]
2258
02:08:38,752 --> 02:08:41,255
[Carter] Many of the people who came
to help me were white people,
2259
02:08:41,797 --> 02:08:44,216
which must have surprised the authorities,
2260
02:08:44,299 --> 02:08:47,428
because the authorities claimed
that I committed this crime
2261
02:08:47,511 --> 02:08:49,346
because of my hatred for white people.
2262
02:08:49,513 --> 02:08:51,473
But here's all these white folks
2263
02:08:52,099 --> 02:08:54,435
coming to help this poor black man
2264
02:08:54,643 --> 02:08:56,895
who's in prison for something
that he didn't do,
2265
02:08:56,979 --> 02:08:59,606
something that he didn't do.
I mean, it-- it was great.
2266
02:08:59,982 --> 02:09:02,860
[reporter] What happens if the courts
say no, where do you go from there?
2267
02:09:02,943 --> 02:09:05,320
Are you gonna go back into the courts
once again?
2268
02:09:05,404 --> 02:09:07,990
If the courts say no,
we just keep on fighting.
2269
02:09:08,240 --> 02:09:10,868
There's no such--
There's no such thing as no.
2270
02:09:11,326 --> 02:09:12,578
There's just yes,
2271
02:09:12,661 --> 02:09:15,289
and the road is straight ahead,
and we keep on going.
2272
02:09:16,415 --> 02:09:18,083
Bob always been searching.
2273
02:09:18,167 --> 02:09:22,171
Every time I see Bob now, and which
we don't see each other frequently,
2274
02:09:22,504 --> 02:09:26,759
but every time I see him, I ask Bob,
"Have you found it yet, Bob?"
2275
02:09:27,968 --> 02:09:29,636
And Bob says, "Yeah, I found it."
2276
02:09:30,095 --> 02:09:33,849
But I know he hasn't,
'cause he keeps searching. [laughs]
2277
02:09:35,142 --> 02:09:38,187
[older Dylan] He'd always say,
"Hey, what are you searching for today?"
2278
02:09:38,270 --> 02:09:39,354
I'd say, "What?"
2279
02:09:39,438 --> 02:09:42,191
He'd say, "I know you're a searcher.
What are you searching for?"
2280
02:09:42,566 --> 02:09:46,528
I'd say, uh, "Well, Hurricane,
I'm searching for the Holy Grail."
2281
02:09:46,904 --> 02:09:47,905
And he'd say, "What?"
2282
02:09:48,155 --> 02:09:52,326
I said, "I'm gonna search until I find it,
like Sir Galahad."
2283
02:09:54,453 --> 02:09:55,788
That's what I'm looking for.
2284
02:09:56,872 --> 02:09:58,457
[indistinct chatter]
2285
02:09:58,749 --> 02:10:02,628
-[man] Five minutes. Five minutes.
-[interviewer] Do you think he's a genius?
2286
02:10:03,462 --> 02:10:05,005
Is Bob Dylan a genius?
2287
02:10:06,423 --> 02:10:08,884
[van Dorp] I don't know.
That's a strange word.
2288
02:10:10,052 --> 02:10:10,886
Maybe.
2289
02:10:11,220 --> 02:10:15,140
I think the most brilliant thing he did
was putting a group of highly motivated
2290
02:10:15,349 --> 02:10:18,393
and ambitious people
on a train with no supervision,
2291
02:10:18,602 --> 02:10:21,939
and then let them become
the most extreme versions of themselves.
2292
02:10:22,439 --> 02:10:24,566
[interviewer] Is that how you'd describe
what happened?
2293
02:10:24,650 --> 02:10:26,401
I know that's what happened to me.
2294
02:10:26,527 --> 02:10:28,904
-[people laughing]
-[man] Let's go. Let's go.
2295
02:10:30,364 --> 02:10:31,198
Let's go.
2296
02:10:31,865 --> 02:10:33,951
[interviewer] So, why did you come here
to speak to me?
2297
02:10:34,034 --> 02:10:38,497
[van Dorp]
Well, to try and, you know, stake my claim
2298
02:10:38,580 --> 02:10:42,334
and say, "Here I am, this is me.
I'm the one who made this.
2299
02:10:42,417 --> 02:10:43,544
You're using it.
2300
02:10:43,961 --> 02:10:47,631
This wouldn't exist without me.
I'm the filmmaker here."
2301
02:10:49,132 --> 02:10:52,135
[van Dorp]
December 4th, 1975, Montreal, Canada,
2302
02:10:52,219 --> 02:10:54,847
last scheduled concert
for the Rolling Thunder Revue.
2303
02:10:55,806 --> 02:11:00,644
We phantoms are assembled
at the end of the Rolling Thunder tour.
2304
02:11:00,769 --> 02:11:02,479
[man] Roger? Let's go. Luther?
2305
02:11:02,563 --> 02:11:05,399
[Ginsberg] We started out
trying to recover America.
2306
02:11:05,482 --> 02:11:08,318
We discovered a certain amount of truth
about ourselves.
2307
02:11:08,777 --> 02:11:11,363
Old friends who thought
their loves had been lost
2308
02:11:11,613 --> 02:11:15,325
were able to get together
and, uh, face each other eye to eye
2309
02:11:15,617 --> 02:11:17,995
and sing over an electrical microphone
2310
02:11:18,078 --> 02:11:22,332
to please the desires
of myriad young yearners,
2311
02:11:22,416 --> 02:11:25,544
who had been seeking some kind
of union and community
2312
02:11:25,627 --> 02:11:27,629
and saw therein an image
of that community.
2313
02:11:28,755 --> 02:11:30,340
[interviewer] Was the tour a success?
2314
02:11:30,757 --> 02:11:33,427
[Gianopulos] The tour was a disaster,
it was a catastrophe.
2315
02:11:33,510 --> 02:11:34,761
-[interviewer] Why?
-Well,
2316
02:11:34,845 --> 02:11:37,764
I told 'em we should be playing
to 20,000-seaters,
2317
02:11:37,848 --> 02:11:40,559
but instead, you know, they wanted
to play all these small joints.
2318
02:11:40,642 --> 02:11:43,645
Now you've got 16 to 18 people onstage,
2319
02:11:43,729 --> 02:11:46,356
and you got 15 people on the back line.
2320
02:11:47,024 --> 02:11:50,485
Buses and hotel rooms and catering,
and you're only playing to houses
2321
02:11:50,569 --> 02:11:53,363
with 3,000 seats,
so you're gonna hemorrhage money.
2322
02:11:53,447 --> 02:11:55,532
We were in the red
before we even got on the road.
2323
02:11:55,616 --> 02:11:57,868
No, it wasn't a success.
2324
02:11:58,619 --> 02:12:00,954
Not if you measure success
in terms of profit.
2325
02:12:02,247 --> 02:12:03,916
But it was a sense of adventure.
2326
02:12:05,208 --> 02:12:09,379
So, in many ways, yes,
it was very successful.
2327
02:12:10,797 --> 02:12:11,840
[Ronson] Let's go.
2328
02:12:12,758 --> 02:12:14,009
[Dylan] Time to go.
2329
02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:17,721
-[man 1] Come on. We're on.
-[man 2] Yeah, Rob, you look pretty.
2330
02:12:17,930 --> 02:12:20,641
["Knocking on Heaven's Door" playing]
2331
02:12:22,392 --> 02:12:24,561
[older Dylan]
What remains of that tour to this day?
2332
02:12:24,645 --> 02:12:25,479
Nothing.
2333
02:12:26,855 --> 02:12:28,106
Not one single thing.
2334
02:12:28,690 --> 02:12:29,524
Ashes.
2335
02:12:33,236 --> 02:12:37,240
♪ Mama, wipe the blood off of my face ♪
2336
02:12:40,911 --> 02:12:44,164
♪ I can't see through it anymore ♪
2337
02:12:47,584 --> 02:12:51,922
♪ I need someone to talk to
And a new hiding place ♪
2338
02:12:55,676 --> 02:12:59,221
♪ I feel like I'm knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2339
02:13:02,975 --> 02:13:06,561
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2340
02:13:10,315 --> 02:13:13,944
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2341
02:13:17,656 --> 02:13:21,952
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2342
02:13:24,955 --> 02:13:29,209
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2343
02:13:32,421 --> 02:13:35,674
♪ Mama, I can hear that thunder roll ♪
2344
02:13:39,803 --> 02:13:43,473
♪ Echoing down from God's distant shore ♪
2345
02:13:46,852 --> 02:13:50,856
♪ I can hear Him calling out for my soul ♪
2346
02:13:54,317 --> 02:13:57,863
♪ l feel I'm knocking on heaven's door ♪
2347
02:14:01,867 --> 02:14:05,620
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2348
02:14:09,249 --> 02:14:13,503
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2349
02:14:16,673 --> 02:14:21,053
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2350
02:14:23,930 --> 02:14:28,643
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2351
02:14:51,374 --> 02:14:55,212
You who saw it all,
or saw flashes and fragments,
2352
02:14:55,629 --> 02:14:58,173
take from us some example,
2353
02:14:58,256 --> 02:15:00,467
try and get yourselves together,
2354
02:15:00,550 --> 02:15:03,345
clean up your act, find your community,
2355
02:15:03,637 --> 02:15:07,182
pick up on some kind of redemption
of your own consciousness,
2356
02:15:07,432 --> 02:15:10,018
become more mindful of your own friends,
2357
02:15:10,102 --> 02:15:11,186
your own work,
2358
02:15:11,269 --> 02:15:13,063
your own proper meditation,
2359
02:15:13,146 --> 02:15:14,397
your own proper art,
2360
02:15:14,481 --> 02:15:15,482
your own beauty.
2361
02:15:15,607 --> 02:15:18,819
Go out and make it for your own eternity.
2362
02:15:23,115 --> 02:15:27,786
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2363
02:15:30,580 --> 02:15:35,001
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2364
02:15:37,754 --> 02:15:42,717
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2365
02:15:45,178 --> 02:15:50,142
♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
On heaven's door ♪
2366
02:15:53,019 --> 02:15:54,437
["The Water is Wide" playing]
2367
02:15:54,521 --> 02:15:59,317
[Dylan and Baez] ♪ The water is wide ♪
2368
02:15:59,568 --> 02:16:02,529
♪ And I can't cross over ♪
2369
02:16:05,949 --> 02:16:09,911
♪ I've neither wings ♪
2370
02:16:11,246 --> 02:16:16,001
♪ That I could fly ♪
2371
02:16:16,376 --> 02:16:21,131
♪ Build me a boat ♪
2372
02:16:21,882 --> 02:16:26,136
♪ That can carry two ♪
2373
02:16:27,387 --> 02:16:30,891
♪ And both shall row ♪
2374
02:16:33,059 --> 02:16:37,731
♪ My love and I ♪
2375
02:16:46,364 --> 02:16:50,785
♪ There is a ship ♪
2376
02:16:51,536 --> 02:16:54,372
♪ And it sails on the sea ♪
2377
02:16:57,709 --> 02:17:01,713
♪ Loaded deep ♪
2378
02:17:02,464 --> 02:17:07,052
♪ As deep can be ♪
2379
02:17:07,802 --> 02:17:12,515
♪ But not as deep ♪
2380
02:17:13,058 --> 02:17:17,854
♪ As the love I'm in ♪
2381
02:17:18,563 --> 02:17:21,816
♪ And both shall row ♪
2382
02:17:23,777 --> 02:17:29,741
♪ My love and I ♪
2383
02:17:31,660 --> 02:17:35,163
[audience applauds]
2384
02:17:55,517 --> 02:17:57,519
-[crowd cheering]
-[man] Bob!
2385
02:18:00,146 --> 02:18:01,898
[woman] Encore!
2386
02:18:02,107 --> 02:18:04,484
[crowd applauding and cheering]
2387
02:18:05,443 --> 02:18:07,737
["Romance In Durango" playing]
2388
02:18:08,113 --> 02:18:10,407
♪ Hot chili peppers
In the blistering sun ♪
2389
02:18:13,326 --> 02:18:16,121
♪ Dust on my face and my cape ♪
2390
02:18:18,790 --> 02:18:21,710
♪ Me and Magdalena on the run ♪
2391
02:18:24,212 --> 02:18:27,924
♪ I think this time we shall escape ♪
2392
02:18:29,384 --> 02:18:32,429
♪ Sold my guitar to the baker's son ♪
2393
02:18:34,889 --> 02:18:38,685
♪ For a few crumbs and a place to hide ♪
2394
02:18:40,312 --> 02:18:43,189
♪ But I can get another one ♪
2395
02:18:45,191 --> 02:18:49,279
♪ And I'll play for Magdalena as we ride ♪
2396
02:18:50,322 --> 02:18:53,033
♪ No llores, mi querida ♪
2397
02:18:53,825 --> 02:18:55,535
♪ Dios nos vigila ♪
2398
02:18:56,036 --> 02:18:59,873
♪ Soon the horse will take us to Durango ♪
2399
02:19:00,498 --> 02:19:03,251
♪ Agárrame, mi vida ♪
2400
02:19:03,460 --> 02:19:05,545
♪ Soon the desert will be gone ♪
2401
02:19:06,171 --> 02:19:09,924
♪ Soon you will be dancing the fandango ♪
2402
02:19:21,144 --> 02:19:24,189
♪ Past the Aztec ruins
And the ghosts of our people ♪
2403
02:19:26,066 --> 02:19:29,444
♪ Hoofbeats like castanets on stone ♪
2404
02:19:30,612 --> 02:19:33,823
♪ At night, I dream of bells
In the village steeple ♪
2405
02:19:35,367 --> 02:19:39,287
♪ Then I see the bloody face of Ramon ♪
2406
02:19:40,372 --> 02:19:43,666
♪ Was it me that shot him down
In the cantina? ♪
2407
02:19:45,960 --> 02:19:49,130
♪ Was it my hand that held the gun? ♪
2408
02:19:50,799 --> 02:19:53,635
♪ Come let us fly, my Magdalena ♪
2409
02:19:55,428 --> 02:19:58,640
♪ The dogs are barking
And what's done is done ♪
2410
02:19:59,849 --> 02:20:02,727
♪ No llores, mi querida ♪
2411
02:20:03,269 --> 02:20:05,021
♪ Dios nos vigila ♪
2412
02:20:05,647 --> 02:20:09,025
♪ Soon the horse will take us to Durango ♪
2413
02:20:09,818 --> 02:20:12,362
♪ Agárrame, mi vida ♪
2414
02:20:12,445 --> 02:20:14,656
♪ Soon the desert will be gone ♪
2415
02:20:15,240 --> 02:20:18,743
♪ Soon you will be dancing the fandango ♪
2416
02:20:29,212 --> 02:20:32,465
♪ At the corrida, we'll sit in the shade ♪
2417
02:20:34,008 --> 02:20:37,345
♪ And watch the young torero stand alone ♪
2418
02:20:39,013 --> 02:20:42,308
♪ Drank tequila
Where our grandfathers stayed ♪
2419
02:20:43,393 --> 02:20:46,896
♪ When they rode with Villa into Torreón ♪
2420
02:20:48,356 --> 02:20:51,901
♪ And the padre will recite
The prayers of old ♪
2421
02:20:53,194 --> 02:20:56,948
♪ In the little church this side of town ♪
2422
02:20:57,991 --> 02:21:01,453
♪ I'll wear new boots
And an earring of gold ♪
2423
02:21:02,662 --> 02:21:06,458
♪ You'll shine with diamonds
In your wedding gown ♪
2424
02:21:08,126 --> 02:21:10,962
♪ Was that the thunder that I heard? ♪
2425
02:21:12,797 --> 02:21:15,842
♪ My head is vibrating
I feel a sharp pain ♪
2426
02:21:17,385 --> 02:21:20,138
♪ Come sit by me, don't say a word ♪
2427
02:21:22,182 --> 02:21:25,393
♪ Oh, can it be that I am slain? ♪
2428
02:21:26,895 --> 02:21:29,397
♪ Quick, Magdalena, take my gun ♪
2429
02:21:31,608 --> 02:21:34,819
♪ Look up in the hills
That flash of light ♪
2430
02:21:34,903 --> 02:21:36,112
[man whoops]
2431
02:21:36,529 --> 02:21:39,157
♪ Aim well, my little one ♪
2432
02:21:41,117 --> 02:21:44,621
♪ We may not make it through the night ♪