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[cassette tape rattling]
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[phone ringing on recording]
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[dispatch on recording] Central Dispatch.
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[Jack Bushong] Yeah, this is, um,
the National Weather Service of Muskegon.
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I was calling to make sure
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that the person that called me
was not a hoax.
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[dispatch] He was one of our dispatchers.
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We've been chasing lights down...
all over down that way.
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-[Jack] What do they look like?
-I don't know.
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We got a report of
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something going through the air
with lights on it horizontally.
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Three to four lights...
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going at a high rate of speed
up and down and all over the sky.
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[Jack] What did I see that night?
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What did I see going
72,000 miles per hour at least?
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[eerie humming]
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[Jack] This is tough
for a scientist to admit,
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and so I'm just gonna have to say...
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the way they acted,
even though intelligent,
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they didn't act human.
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[mysterious music playing]
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[Jack] When I was a kid,
people made fun of me.
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They used to say,
"It could only happen to Jack."
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{\an8}I was like the epitome of coincidences.
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{\an8}And strange ones.
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{\an8}I grew up in Muskegon,
which is in West Michigan,
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and it's a beautiful area.
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You got the four seasons.
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So this was my childhood home right here.
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I can remember standing right out front
being three and four years old,
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being very curious about the world.
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You know, even as far back
as I can remember,
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I was very interested
in astronomy and science,
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and then, of course, weather too.
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I started learning
how to read weather maps
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at about five, six years old.
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My parents lived on Lake Michigan.
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I could see the storms
rolling across Lake Michigan.
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And that's how I learned
that I wanted to be a meteorologist
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ever since I was six years old.
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On March 8th, 1994, I was 29 going on 30.
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I had been at
the Muskegon National Weather Service
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for three years at that point.
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I was the 4:00 p.m. to 12:00 a.m. shift,
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and I was alone on duty for the night,
which is not unusual.
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Temperatures were around 20 degrees.
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It was a light wind,
and we had very good visibility.
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Probably easily 80 miles.
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I wasn't expecting that there was gonna be
anything going on that night
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because there was nothing
going on weather-wise.
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It was a very fair, clear, cold night.
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[expectant music playing softly]
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[Cindy Pravda] That night
it was very clear.
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I was in the kitchen
talking to my friend Edna.
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{\an8}And we had a corded phone at the time.
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{\an8}And I like to pace when I'm on the phone.
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My husband was in the basement
watching TV downstairs on the couch.
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[eerie humming]
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[faint warbling]
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It was about nine o'clock at night.
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[eerie music playing]
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And I walked to my kitchen window.
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That's when I saw the lights.
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And the glow of the light
that was outside,
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it was so bright
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that I thought
that it was a huge full moon.
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I did a double take.
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No, I saw four lights.
"That can't be a full moon."
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So I said, "Edna, I think
there's a UFO in my backyard."
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The lights were in a straight line.
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[eerie music continues]
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They were stationary.
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They were just above our tree line
in our pasture.
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The one to the far left
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moved slowly across the tree line.
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Then slowly came back
into formation again.
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And the other one to the far right,
would be to the west,
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was starting to slowly move.
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Then it was gone.
It was just gone in a flash.
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So then I'm left with three.
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I never saw a ship or ships.
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The lights were so bright,
I could never see beyond them.
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I watched them totally
for about a half hour.
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I wish I had a camera back then.
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We didn't have cell phones
that could take a picture.
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What surprised me most
was there was no sound from the UFO.
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My horse was out in the field,
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and she was grazing and nodding off.
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She didn't even know
they were above her head.
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[Holly Graves] Not a sound.
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{\an8}That's the thing
that stands out the most to me.
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{\an8}Dead silent.
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In 1994, I was married,
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my daughter was ten,
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and my son was 14.
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My husband Daryl and I had retired to bed,
and the kids were in the living room.
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Joey started screaming.
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Just, you know, "You gotta see this.
Come in here. You gotta see this."
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Our whole living room
was like a spotlight.
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It was so bright.
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[phone line ringing]
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[dispatch on recording] 911.
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[Holly] Um, we were just wondering.
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Have you heard anything about these lights
that are flickering up here?
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It's like a group.
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It looks like a string of Christmas lights
that's way up in the sky.
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-[kids clamoring on recording]
-[dispatch] No, ma'am.
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[Holly] And we wondered
if you'd heard about it.
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[dispatch] Not a thing.
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[Holly] You might wanna
have someone take a look.
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It's different.
I've never seen anything like this.
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I don't know. It's strange,
but it's right out east, southeast.
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It's way up.
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You can hear my kids screaming
in the background on the 911 tape.
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So my husband, Daryl, said,
"Let's go outside."
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And this thing is roughly 300 feet.
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It was right across the street,
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and it wasn't doing anything
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but going as slow as it possibly could.
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It was not like a plane.
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It was not like a blimp.
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It was not like anything I've ever seen.
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It was, I said, of a chrome material.
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It was a cylinder shape.
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And they were going around in a circle.
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Saw no windows, anything like that.
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And it had lights
coming out of the bottom.
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[Holly on recording]
It's just like a circle
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of a lot of different lights flickering.
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I said to Daryl, "What is that?"
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And
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he said, "Holly, it's a UFO."
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[sinister music playing]
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[Holly] We stood out there for about,
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I wanna say 15, 20 minutes
before Officer Velthouse got there.
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[siren blaring faintly]
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[Jeffrey Velthouse]
I was in my patrol vehicle
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when I received a 911 call
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to respond to the residence
of Holly Graves and her family.
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{\an8}My thought on UFOs was "skeptical."
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I was trying to think of
any kind of explainable situation
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that was going on,
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whether it was somebody shining lights
or maybe something was on fire.
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I was met outside
by Holly Graves and her husband.
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I saw two lights,
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and they were both moving
in a southwest direction.
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They were consistent with the flight
maybe of an aircraft of some sort.
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They were that high in the sky.
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The lights went from white to green,
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and they were fairly close together.
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-[eerie music playing]
-[Jeffrey] As I watched them,
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the one light caught my attention,
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and it moved from the other light
in a quick manner,
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and then kept going southwest.
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That was noticeable to me.
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Different than any normal aircraft
that I've seen.
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[Holly] And Officer Velthouse
and my husband
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stood in the front yard
for another ten minutes or so.
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And then Officer Velthouse left.
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At that point, I heard Daryl scream.
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He said it just, bam, broke up into five...
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before it disappeared.
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[ominous music playing]
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[Jeffrey] As I was
trying to follow the lights,
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we were getting more calls
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through Ottawa County Central Dispatch.
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[radio tuning]
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[dispatch on recording] 911.
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[caller 1] There's four or five lights,
and they're all flashing right in a row
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from the top
all the way down to the bottom.
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-[dispatch] Uh-huh.
-[caller 1] It took off real fast.
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[caller 2] There was four lights,
and they were blinking back and forth.
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And there's no way...
I mean, a plane is not that wide.
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And then it started...
And then it went down to three lights.
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And then it started to turn around.
Like, I mean, it was a circular motion.
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Then it started going up and down,
and then it went to two lights
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and did the same thing.
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And now it's one,
and it's spinning in a circle.
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They're just kinda hanging there.
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They came up as a group,
then they kind of split.
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[intriguing music playing]
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[Jeffrey] I contacted
the Ottawa County central dispatcher
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to try and locate a radar service
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to determine what it was
that people were reporting.
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And he, in turn,
contacted the Muskegon Weather Service.
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[phone ringing]
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[Jack on recording] Weather Service.
Muskegon.
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[Jack] Around 10:00 p.m. that night,
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I got a phone call
from the Ottawa County 911 Dispatch.
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[dispatch] Hi, Muskegon.
This is Ottawa County 911 calling.
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[Jack] Yeah, how you doing?
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[dispatch] Good. You guys
have access to a radar there, don't ya?
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-[Jack] Yes, we do.
-You do.
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You getting anything weird down
in the Southern Ottawa County area?
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The reason I ask is
we're getting a whole bunch of calls
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of some strange lights
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in the Southern Ottawa,
Northern Allegan County
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right near Holland City area.
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-[Jack] Strange lights?
-Yeah.
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We've had about 60 UFO calls.
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[Jack] Oh jeez! Okay.
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[dispatch] I'm sitting here going,
"No, come on."
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"There's gotta be something more to this."
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[Jack] Yeah.
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When he said something about UFOs
are being seen across the skies,
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I thought, "Oh boy."
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You know,
a lot of people are drinking out tonight.
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But I was not going to say,
just blow them off and say,
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"No, I can't see something like that."
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I was gonna take a look.
I was actually interested myself.
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As a radar operator, we had to learn...
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not just learning how to look
at atmospheric phenomena on the radar
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but how the radar actually works,
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and what can actually fool the radar.
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So we're rigorously trained
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because we're putting out
severe weather warnings
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and tornado warnings
based on what we see with the radar.
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[Jack on recording] I'm looking at it
in the vertical now,
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and there's a large return down there.
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It's up about maybe...
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Oh, now it disappeared,
but it was up about 6,000 feet.
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It could have been a plane,
but it was pretty big. Wait a minute.
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And I assumed it was an aircraft
at about 6,000 feet,
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which was not unusual.
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It was moving at around 100 miles an hour,
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which again was not unusual.
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Now to find an aircraft
in the dark like this
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would be like being in the basement,
and you have a flashlight,
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and you're looking for that fly
that's flying around,
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and you only have that focused beam.
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And once, you might be able to catch it,
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might be able to follow it,
but a lot of times, you could lose it.
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[Jack] Oh, it moved. Let's see.
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There's something big down there.
Wait a minute. That's really strange.
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Yeah, right down near South Haven.
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Okay, it's moving
towards the west-southwest,
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and it looks like a big blob.
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[dispatch] Yeah, that's the way
it was explained to us.
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Hmm. This is weird.
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[Jack] Looks like it's steady right now.
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For a brief moment of about 15 seconds,
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it just stopped and hovered,
which is highly unusual.
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So, right away,
I knew something was not right.
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Either it was...
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At that point, I thought,
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"Okay, it could be a blimp,
a balloon, or something like that."
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But to be flying at night
in the dead of winter
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was highly unusual too.
249
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[Jack on recording] It's gone up.
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I'm getting it now at, um,
at about 12,000 feet.
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[dispatch] Huh.
252
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You know, after that,
it seemed like everything just went crazy.
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[Jack] Oh my God! What is this?
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[dispatch] They were going together
and coming apart.
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00:16:17,685 --> 00:16:20,354
[Jack] Yeah, they're... Well, it's...
There's three.
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They're separated by about...
Looks like about 5,000 feet in height.
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[dispatch] Hmm.
258
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[Jack] They're very strong returns.
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I mean, they're spiking,
so there's something pretty solid.
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It's not precipitation or anything,
especially up at that height.
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In all aspects,
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the objects looked like an aircraft.
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It just did not act like an aircraft.
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We know it was solid.
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It was smooth.
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It seemed extremely reflective.
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Very high-polished metal.
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We can detect that
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by the amount of energy
coming back in the echo.
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[siren blaring]
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[dispatch] An officer in Holland City
just sent me a message.
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He says, you know,
"Can you identify anything further?"
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He says,
"Looks like three to four of 'em."
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[Jack] I'm seeing three,
but they look like a triangle on my scope.
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[dispatch] This is strange, yeah,
'cause the officer says it's, uh,
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"Green and red lights."
It does not look like an airplane.
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They come together,
and then they separate.
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And they just
keep doing this all the time.
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[Jack] These are huge returns.
I've never seen anything like this.
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Not even when I'm doing storms.
These aren't storms. They're like...
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They're just poppin' up
all over the place.
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[Jack] The northernmost one
would jump 20 miles, hover.
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The other two would jump 20 miles
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and then make
that triangular formation again
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and then would hover there
for a few seconds.
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I can't think of anything in nature
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that would play
follow-the-leader like that.
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It was almost as if it wanted to be seen.
289
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I was spooked. I was creeped out.
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I was nervous. I was shaking.
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[Jack] These are all up around
between 7,000 and 12,000 feet.
292
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[dispatch] Wow, this is strange.
293
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[Jack] Okay, they look like they're all
moving toward the south, towards Chicago.
294
00:18:18,388 --> 00:18:22,684
They're about
over the center of Lake Michigan.
295
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Three of them in a triangle
just off the coast of Berrien County.
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[eerie music playing]
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[Jack] Once it got to that one area
in Southern Lake Michigan, it stopped,
298
00:18:40,452 --> 00:18:43,038
it hovered, it stayed there for a while.
299
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I watched them for two, three hours,
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and they were met up by dozens and dozens
of other objects that I could see.
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They were doing incredible feats,
302
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like going from lower,
say at four-or-five thousand feet,
303
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to going as high as 55,000 feet
304
00:19:06,812 --> 00:19:08,605
within a matter of seconds,
305
00:19:08,689 --> 00:19:11,817
which none of
our military aircraft can do at all.
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00:19:12,693 --> 00:19:13,902
At one point,
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I saw it move 20 miles
out over Lake Michigan
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in less than a second.
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00:19:18,574 --> 00:19:21,410
So it's moving at 72,000 miles an hour.
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00:19:22,035 --> 00:19:26,331
At that speed, you could fly
from New York to LA in about two minutes.
311
00:19:26,415 --> 00:19:30,669
And there's just no technology I know of
that can go that fast.
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I know it wasn't swamp gas
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because the weather radar, uh,
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would actually not be able
to see swamp gas.
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I knew that they were not
a super-refraction of the radar beam
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or a bounce-back of the radar
back down to the earth
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because of their movements
and their speeds.
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But also because
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by raising the radar antenna
to the many degrees that I did up,
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that eliminates
all super-refraction possibilities.
321
00:20:03,327 --> 00:20:07,915
Later on, I found out that
that was the only clear area of no ice.
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It was absolutely
the northernmost point that you could get
323
00:20:11,919 --> 00:20:14,254
without going into solid sheets of ice.
324
00:20:14,338 --> 00:20:17,466
So they were out over open water.
325
00:20:20,135 --> 00:20:21,762
It was a rendezvous point
326
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for other objects from...
coming in from other directions.
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00:20:30,020 --> 00:20:32,981
[dispatch] All right, well, if we
get any more, we'll let you know also.
328
00:20:33,065 --> 00:20:34,942
[Jack] Please do. Thanks a lot, then.
329
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-[dispatch] Okay. Thank you. Bye.
-Uh-huh. Bye-bye.
330
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,156
Once I got off the phone
with the 911 dispatcher,
331
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I called my wife and told her
all about what I had seen.
332
00:20:45,827 --> 00:20:50,624
And I said, "Can you go out
and take a look to the southern sky
333
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and see if you see anything?"
334
00:20:52,793 --> 00:20:55,796
It was late at night.
It was the dead of winter.
335
00:20:55,879 --> 00:20:59,424
She actually was too afraid to go out.
She was creeped out.
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00:20:59,508 --> 00:21:01,635
Said, "I'm not going out there by myself."
337
00:21:03,679 --> 00:21:06,515
I did stay over
and watch it a little bit more.
338
00:21:07,391 --> 00:21:11,812
And one by one, they would disappear
until they all just kind of faded away.
339
00:21:13,313 --> 00:21:14,481
[door opens and closes]
340
00:21:14,564 --> 00:21:17,526
The next shift that came in after me,
341
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he didn't really get excited like I was.
342
00:21:21,321 --> 00:21:24,866
Really didn't know what to think of it
because he hadn't seen the whole thing.
343
00:21:27,327 --> 00:21:31,665
Driving home that night,
everything was going through my mind.
344
00:21:31,748 --> 00:21:34,710
And I couldn't believe what I had seen.
345
00:21:34,793 --> 00:21:36,545
[intriguing music playing]
346
00:21:36,628 --> 00:21:40,340
My whole idea, as a scientist,
347
00:21:40,424 --> 00:21:43,051
of what's out there,
348
00:21:43,135 --> 00:21:47,055
it was, like, just a huge change
in the way I had to think.
349
00:21:47,139 --> 00:21:50,183
That there's more out there
than we all know.
350
00:21:55,314 --> 00:21:56,690
[phone ringing]
351
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[Michael Walsh] Probably around
8:00 in the morning,
352
00:22:01,069 --> 00:22:04,031
we started getting direct calls,
which were coming in to me.
353
00:22:04,114 --> 00:22:07,326
{\an8}And these were citizens
who saw something strange
354
00:22:07,409 --> 00:22:09,036
{\an8}and wanted to report it.
355
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,830
-[mysterious music playing]
-[phone line ringing]
356
00:22:11,913 --> 00:22:13,749
[Michael] So I got the idea
357
00:22:13,832 --> 00:22:18,253
of calling the dispatch operator
in Ottawa County, 911,
358
00:22:18,337 --> 00:22:23,592
and saying, "How long would it take
to get a copy of these calls?"
359
00:22:23,675 --> 00:22:26,470
And he said,
"I'll have it for you in an hour."
360
00:22:28,138 --> 00:22:30,140
So I picked it up.
361
00:22:30,223 --> 00:22:33,185
And this is back in 1994.
362
00:22:34,478 --> 00:22:36,938
Popped it in the cassette device,
363
00:22:37,022 --> 00:22:40,609
and it knocks your socks off.
364
00:22:40,692 --> 00:22:41,651
[dispatch] 911.
365
00:22:41,735 --> 00:22:43,195
[caller 1] This is a non-emergency,
366
00:22:43,278 --> 00:22:45,697
so feel free to cut me off
if something comes in.
367
00:22:45,781 --> 00:22:49,242
And I feel kind of silly calling,
but is there any Air Force airplanes
368
00:22:49,326 --> 00:22:53,330
or helicopters flying around
in Allegan or Ottawa County tonight?
369
00:22:54,623 --> 00:22:58,001
[caller 2] I don't know if you guys
do anything on UFOs at all.
370
00:22:59,294 --> 00:23:02,381
[caller 3] It's not a real emergency.
We're calling about them UFOs we saw.
371
00:23:02,464 --> 00:23:04,591
-[dispatch] Mmm-hmm.
-[caller 3] They're out there.
372
00:23:04,674 --> 00:23:05,759
They ain't airplanes.
373
00:23:08,011 --> 00:23:12,891
[Michael] These people saw something
that either frightened or amazed them.
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00:23:13,934 --> 00:23:16,895
You can hear, uh,
the sincerity in their voices.
375
00:23:16,978 --> 00:23:19,064
You can hear the amazement.
376
00:23:19,147 --> 00:23:21,441
I think that's very compelling.
377
00:23:22,734 --> 00:23:25,612
But also, there was
the 911 dispatch recording
378
00:23:25,695 --> 00:23:28,323
with the National Weather Service
radar operator.
379
00:23:28,407 --> 00:23:31,326
He alone and the dispatcher set this apart
380
00:23:31,410 --> 00:23:34,162
from so much
other UFO stuff that I've seen.
381
00:23:35,580 --> 00:23:40,168
I listened to five or ten minutes of it,
and I called the news desk and said,
382
00:23:40,252 --> 00:23:41,795
"We got a major story."
383
00:23:41,878 --> 00:23:45,715
I got back to the newsroom,
batted out a story,
384
00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:47,634
and got it on the wire.
385
00:23:47,717 --> 00:23:49,719
[intriguing music playing]
386
00:23:56,601 --> 00:23:59,187
When the event happened on March 8th,
387
00:23:59,813 --> 00:24:02,566
I had no idea it was recorded.
388
00:24:03,859 --> 00:24:06,653
The tape was immediately given to my boss
389
00:24:06,736 --> 00:24:09,239
and to my boss's boss.
390
00:24:11,116 --> 00:24:14,286
And that's when
just everything broke loose.
391
00:24:14,369 --> 00:24:16,371
[intriguing music continues]
392
00:24:24,004 --> 00:24:27,340
Residents in places like Grand Haven,
Holland, and other lakeshore towns
393
00:24:27,424 --> 00:24:31,261
reported seeing
the strange phenomenon in the night sky.
394
00:24:31,344 --> 00:24:34,890
This was definitely brighter
than anything I've ever seen before.
395
00:24:34,973 --> 00:24:37,100
Flashing green lights,
and once in a while,
396
00:24:37,184 --> 00:24:38,351
you'd see, like, a red.
397
00:24:38,435 --> 00:24:40,479
About ten seconds. It just went...
[imitates whooshing]
398
00:24:40,562 --> 00:24:42,063
Were they watching us?
399
00:24:42,147 --> 00:24:44,774
Were they taking
samples of the atmosphere, you know?
400
00:24:44,858 --> 00:24:45,942
What were they doing?
401
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:50,405
[William Konkolesky]
The March 8th, 1994 sighting
402
00:24:50,489 --> 00:24:53,575
{\an8}of UFOs in Southwestern Michigan
403
00:24:53,658 --> 00:24:56,745
{\an8}is really one of the
big cases historically.
404
00:24:56,828 --> 00:25:00,582
Not just for Michigan,
but for UFOs, period.
405
00:25:00,665 --> 00:25:03,835
[reporter on video]
Meet the Mutual UFO Network or MUFON,
406
00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:07,088
international investigators
of strange sights in the skies.
407
00:25:07,172 --> 00:25:10,425
They're trying to find just what's
haunting the Great Lakes state.
408
00:25:12,594 --> 00:25:16,932
[William] MUFON is the world's largest
civilian UFO research organization.
409
00:25:17,015 --> 00:25:20,018
We've been around for over 50 years.
410
00:25:20,101 --> 00:25:23,730
And we have over 4,000 members
in over 40 countries.
411
00:25:23,813 --> 00:25:27,651
We take UFO reports
that people, uh, send in to us.
412
00:25:27,734 --> 00:25:34,115
We can identify usually between 80% to 95%
of what comes in to us every year.
413
00:25:34,199 --> 00:25:35,951
And the ones that we can't identify
414
00:25:36,034 --> 00:25:38,370
are the interesting ones
that keep us going.
415
00:25:39,454 --> 00:25:42,749
Michigan is one of those states
where we just happen to have
416
00:25:42,832 --> 00:25:46,586
more UFO sightings reported to us
than many of the other states.
417
00:25:46,670 --> 00:25:48,421
We're always in the top ten.
418
00:25:48,505 --> 00:25:52,467
But this UFO event in March of '94,
419
00:25:52,551 --> 00:25:56,471
we're talking over 300 witnesses to UFOs
420
00:25:56,555 --> 00:25:57,764
in a single night.
421
00:25:58,515 --> 00:26:01,309
This was not just
on the west side of the state.
422
00:26:01,393 --> 00:26:03,186
Michigan's got 82 counties,
423
00:26:03,270 --> 00:26:07,899
and 42 counties had UFO sightings
that night of March 8th.
424
00:26:07,983 --> 00:26:09,484
[on video] MUFON officials say
425
00:26:09,568 --> 00:26:12,279
this is the hottest UFO case
in the country right now.
426
00:26:12,362 --> 00:26:14,364
Not only because of the mass sightings
427
00:26:14,447 --> 00:26:18,034
but the fact that these objects
have actually been tracked on radar.
428
00:26:19,369 --> 00:26:21,496
You can't say nothing happened that night.
429
00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:22,831
It's scientific.
430
00:26:22,914 --> 00:26:28,253
Here is an instrument
recording something that is undeniable.
431
00:26:31,089 --> 00:26:33,883
[Virginia Tilly]
I learned about the sighting
432
00:26:33,967 --> 00:26:37,220
{\an8}when a friend
from Flint, Michigan called me.
433
00:26:37,304 --> 00:26:40,557
I called the headquarters of MUFON,
434
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,061
and I was put in charge
of investigating this case.
435
00:26:46,146 --> 00:26:50,358
I got in the car as quickly as I could,
driving to Holland.
436
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,696
I interviewed 20 or 30 people
437
00:26:55,322 --> 00:26:57,657
who were direct witnesses.
438
00:26:59,159 --> 00:27:01,745
{\an8}They put us all in separate rooms
439
00:27:01,828 --> 00:27:04,372
{\an8}and had us all draw pictures
440
00:27:04,873 --> 00:27:06,499
and write our story.
441
00:27:06,583 --> 00:27:08,877
[reporter on video] How'd you know
it was something unusual?
442
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,962
I saw the bottom.
443
00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:15,717
It was metal. It had lights on it.
444
00:27:16,968 --> 00:27:19,763
[Michael] I've had nationwide
stories before, but nothing like this.
445
00:27:19,846 --> 00:27:21,222
This went worldwide.
446
00:27:21,806 --> 00:27:23,600
The reaction was immediate.
447
00:27:23,683 --> 00:27:27,354
{\an8}For two weeks now, the big question
in much of Western Michigan has been,
448
00:27:27,437 --> 00:27:28,980
{\an8}"Oh my God, what is this?"
449
00:27:31,483 --> 00:27:32,817
[Michael] After the event,
450
00:27:32,901 --> 00:27:36,946
I was contacted by dozens of people
from throughout the state.
451
00:27:37,864 --> 00:27:41,451
I had calls I remember from two pilots.
452
00:27:41,534 --> 00:27:42,952
Both from major airlines
453
00:27:43,036 --> 00:27:46,581
who were coming in over to O'Hare
over Lake Michigan.
454
00:27:47,248 --> 00:27:50,543
And both of them separately verified
455
00:27:50,627 --> 00:27:54,089
this very bright, cylindrical object
456
00:27:54,172 --> 00:27:57,592
going in front of them
across Lake Michigan.
457
00:27:57,676 --> 00:28:01,179
And then just disappearing
at a phenomenal rate of speed.
458
00:28:03,765 --> 00:28:06,267
Both of them
did not want their names used,
459
00:28:06,351 --> 00:28:08,812
did not want their carriers used,
460
00:28:08,895 --> 00:28:12,816
because there was
so much prejudice, perhaps.
461
00:28:12,899 --> 00:28:15,318
I think there had been a stigma
462
00:28:15,402 --> 00:28:18,822
attached to people
who claim to have seen UFOs
463
00:28:18,905 --> 00:28:22,158
because it may suggest
that they're mentally ill.
464
00:28:22,742 --> 00:28:25,161
You're silly, you're drunk, you're crazy.
465
00:28:28,748 --> 00:28:31,209
[Jack] Soon after the event occurred,
466
00:28:31,835 --> 00:28:34,003
I walked into the weather office,
467
00:28:34,087 --> 00:28:38,758
and the guys had taken paper plates,
468
00:28:38,842 --> 00:28:42,137
stacked and stapled like flying saucers.
469
00:28:42,220 --> 00:28:46,307
And they put about 50 of them
hanging from the ceiling on strings.
470
00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:51,646
Just put my hands on my face
and thought, "Oh no."
471
00:28:53,523 --> 00:28:55,608
When it came to this event,
472
00:28:55,692 --> 00:28:57,861
I knew people might not believe me,
473
00:28:57,944 --> 00:29:00,321
and what I had seen might sound crazy.
474
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,744
I did not want to be thought of
475
00:29:05,827 --> 00:29:10,123
as somebody, especially as a scientist,
as somebody with a mental illness.
476
00:29:13,835 --> 00:29:15,420
The National Weather Service,
477
00:29:15,503 --> 00:29:19,591
they did not want to be known as
"the UFO reporting center."
478
00:29:19,674 --> 00:29:22,969
So they tried
to make it go away in a hurry.
479
00:29:24,971 --> 00:29:27,557
[reporter on video] Meteorologists with
the National Weather Service
480
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,100
said a temperature inversion,
481
00:29:29,184 --> 00:29:32,771
a layer of warm air a few thousand feet
above the Earth's surface,
482
00:29:32,854 --> 00:29:35,815
could have been the culprit
for the strange returns on radar.
483
00:29:35,899 --> 00:29:37,817
Something called "ground clutter."
484
00:29:39,736 --> 00:29:44,741
[Jack] Well, at this point, I was told
not to talk or give interviews to anybody.
485
00:29:45,533 --> 00:29:50,288
I was very anxious 'cause I worked
my entire life for that job.
486
00:29:51,831 --> 00:29:54,667
If I had disobeyed an order
487
00:29:54,751 --> 00:29:56,878
and talked to the press about it,
488
00:29:56,961 --> 00:30:01,216
I have no doubt in my mind
that they would have tried to fire me
489
00:30:01,299 --> 00:30:07,347
or actually ruin
the future of my career, yeah.
490
00:30:09,808 --> 00:30:13,728
My supervisor Leo had to toe the line.
491
00:30:15,230 --> 00:30:20,151
And in fact when I talked to him later
about what this was doing to my career,
492
00:30:20,235 --> 00:30:23,822
Leo was the one that said,
"Jack, you gotta get out of Michigan."
493
00:30:25,698 --> 00:30:31,037
I knew I had to hurry up
and get a job to wherever I could
494
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,041
based solely because of this UFO event.
495
00:30:35,124 --> 00:30:40,296
But I was depressed to have to leave
such good friends, childhood friends,
496
00:30:40,380 --> 00:30:42,799
and my family.
497
00:30:43,424 --> 00:30:45,677
That was the impact on my career, yes.
498
00:30:46,261 --> 00:30:48,263
[somber music playing]
499
00:30:58,398 --> 00:31:01,067
[Jack] I almost put it behind me
500
00:31:01,150 --> 00:31:04,904
because I didn't think we were gonna
ever be able to learn anymore.
501
00:31:04,988 --> 00:31:10,034
But I did want vindication for this
because there were jokes.
502
00:31:11,744 --> 00:31:14,747
What I saw,
this was a life-altering event.
503
00:31:15,707 --> 00:31:17,917
It's something you just don't forget.
504
00:31:19,127 --> 00:31:24,591
How much brain space
this occupied in 30 years, uh,
505
00:31:24,674 --> 00:31:28,928
it was enough to where
I gave myself headaches thinking about it.
506
00:31:29,012 --> 00:31:33,433
Literally headaches
trying to just really focus
507
00:31:33,516 --> 00:31:37,395
and try to figure it out
'cause it's such a mystery.
508
00:31:38,813 --> 00:31:40,815
[intriguing music playing]
509
00:31:51,159 --> 00:31:52,952
[indistinct radio chatter]
510
00:31:53,036 --> 00:31:56,414
[pilot laughing on radio]
Whoa! Got it! Whoo-hoo!
511
00:31:57,165 --> 00:31:59,792
[reporter on video]
Today a highly-anticipated report
512
00:31:59,876 --> 00:32:01,544
from the US Intelligence Community
513
00:32:01,628 --> 00:32:06,633
{\an8}zeroes in on unidentified
aerial phenomenon, or UAPs,
514
00:32:06,716 --> 00:32:08,593
{\an8}commonly known as UFOs.
515
00:32:08,676 --> 00:32:11,804
[reporter] This report had lots of input
from the military.
516
00:32:11,888 --> 00:32:15,058
It was released by the Office of
the Director of National Intelligence.
517
00:32:15,141 --> 00:32:18,394
They did find more than 140 reports
518
00:32:18,478 --> 00:32:20,939
dating back to 2004,
519
00:32:21,022 --> 00:32:24,150
where investigators
could not find an explanation.
520
00:32:24,817 --> 00:32:30,114
Pilots said they saw objects that moved
at exceptional speed and agility.
521
00:32:30,198 --> 00:32:31,449
[pilot on video] My gosh!
522
00:32:31,532 --> 00:32:35,078
They're all going against the wind.
The wind's 120 knots to the west.
523
00:32:35,161 --> 00:32:38,665
{\an8}We have people like Navy pilots, former
CIA directors coming forward and saying,
524
00:32:38,748 --> 00:32:41,209
{\an8}"Yeah, there are things
that we don't really understand."
525
00:32:41,292 --> 00:32:42,877
{\an8}[reporter] One incident in Puerto Rico,
526
00:32:42,961 --> 00:32:45,213
{\an8}where an object
was tracked buzzing an airport,
527
00:32:45,296 --> 00:32:47,465
{\an8}then flying into the water,
popping back out
528
00:32:47,548 --> 00:32:50,551
{\an8}before appearing to split into two
and disappearing.
529
00:32:51,094 --> 00:32:54,138
{\an8}[Andre Carson] This is a technology
that we don't completely understand.
530
00:32:54,222 --> 00:32:57,892
{\an8}And it seems to be
defying our understanding of physics.
531
00:32:57,976 --> 00:33:02,730
{\an8}The larger question is,
"Is this alien life?" remains unanswered.
532
00:33:03,815 --> 00:33:05,400
[Jack] After all these years,
533
00:33:05,483 --> 00:33:08,361
it seems like
the US government and the military
534
00:33:08,444 --> 00:33:11,739
is finally taking
UFO sightings more seriously.
535
00:33:12,490 --> 00:33:16,202
And that's made me
re-examine my own UFO experience.
536
00:33:24,836 --> 00:33:28,297
I've been dreaming about this
for 27 years.
537
00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:33,052
What I'm hoping
to get out of the eyewitnesses
538
00:33:33,136 --> 00:33:35,388
is to get more information out of them
539
00:33:35,471 --> 00:33:39,892
and actually see exactly where they were
540
00:33:39,976 --> 00:33:42,979
so that I can tie together
what I was seeing
541
00:33:43,062 --> 00:33:47,275
with other people on the ground,
with the radar.
542
00:33:48,276 --> 00:33:53,948
When you have both radar confirmation
and ground-based eyeball confirmation,
543
00:33:54,032 --> 00:33:57,869
that's the proof
that there was a tornado on the ground.
544
00:33:57,952 --> 00:34:00,913
And so why not for UFOs?
545
00:34:03,082 --> 00:34:05,084
-Virginia?
-[Virginia] Oh, Jack!
546
00:34:05,168 --> 00:34:08,337
-Jack Bushong. Nice to meet you.
-For real. It's so nice to meet you.
547
00:34:08,421 --> 00:34:10,548
I have so many questions that I know I...
548
00:34:10,631 --> 00:34:12,383
[Jack] I knew of Virginia Tilly.
549
00:34:12,467 --> 00:34:18,139
She did a thorough job
of finding these witnesses on the ground,
550
00:34:18,222 --> 00:34:21,350
but, of course,
she didn't have a really good,
551
00:34:21,434 --> 00:34:24,896
detailed account
of what I saw on the radar.
552
00:34:25,396 --> 00:34:27,857
I know you've been investigating this
the whole time.
553
00:34:27,940 --> 00:34:30,068
Believe it or not, I tried to reach you.
554
00:34:30,151 --> 00:34:31,110
-Oh, you did?
-I did.
555
00:34:31,194 --> 00:34:33,821
-I tried actually several different times.
-Really?
556
00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:36,449
And I was always told
you weren't available,
557
00:34:36,532 --> 00:34:38,785
or you weren't allowed to speak to me.
558
00:34:38,868 --> 00:34:41,871
-No men in black came? [laughing]
-No men in black. Oh jeez.
559
00:34:41,954 --> 00:34:43,039
[Jack] None of those.
560
00:34:43,748 --> 00:34:47,126
There are very few, if any,
561
00:34:47,210 --> 00:34:50,630
that have the kind of documentation
that goes with this case.
562
00:34:50,713 --> 00:34:54,592
This one, I feel, is much
bigger than any of the others that I've...
563
00:34:54,675 --> 00:34:56,469
No kidding! The absolute top one?
564
00:34:56,552 --> 00:34:57,887
-Really?
-I would think so.
565
00:34:57,970 --> 00:35:01,057
There's a lot of gaps
I'd like to see filled up.
566
00:35:01,557 --> 00:35:04,685
I'm really interested
in this couple you were talking about
567
00:35:04,769 --> 00:35:07,271
that had a vantage point
from Lake Michigan
568
00:35:07,355 --> 00:35:09,774
around the time
when I was seeing it on radar.
569
00:35:10,858 --> 00:35:15,113
This was one of the most unusual things
I've ever heard.
570
00:35:16,614 --> 00:35:18,491
-March 8th of '94.
-[Jack] Okay.
571
00:35:20,201 --> 00:35:23,371
[Virginia] Young couple
that were camping out that night.
572
00:35:23,454 --> 00:35:26,999
An ice-cold night, right on the lake.
573
00:35:28,251 --> 00:35:31,838
After midnight, the wife woke up.
574
00:35:32,380 --> 00:35:37,885
There was a tall tower of water.
575
00:35:40,388 --> 00:35:43,391
They said it looked like a huge waterfall.
576
00:35:43,474 --> 00:35:47,979
Went up almost as high as what looked like
the heights of the sky.
577
00:35:50,022 --> 00:35:52,984
-At least 20 feet wide.
-Okay.
578
00:35:53,067 --> 00:35:57,697
It was lit behind and from above.
579
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,033
And they're looking off
towards the Chicago area,
580
00:36:01,117 --> 00:36:02,535
towards the southwest.
581
00:36:02,618 --> 00:36:04,078
They both were so frightened,
582
00:36:04,162 --> 00:36:07,373
they grabbed a couple of quick things
that were laying with them,
583
00:36:07,456 --> 00:36:11,085
and they ran up the stairs
as fast as they could go.
584
00:36:14,589 --> 00:36:18,593
So what you're telling me completely
correlates with what I saw on radar
585
00:36:18,676 --> 00:36:22,138
from eleven o'clock
through well after midnight.
586
00:36:22,221 --> 00:36:24,849
I was watching them
till two in the morning on radar.
587
00:36:24,932 --> 00:36:26,350
In the same place,
588
00:36:26,434 --> 00:36:29,103
I have them at 6,000 feet at that point.
589
00:36:29,187 --> 00:36:32,273
-It must've been a pretty tall waterfall.
-Okay. You're right.
590
00:36:32,356 --> 00:36:33,816
That's incredible.
591
00:36:36,319 --> 00:36:41,157
A lot of these UFO events
occur around great big bodies of water.
592
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:44,410
-The Great Lakes seems to be a hot spot.
-A very...
593
00:36:44,493 --> 00:36:47,622
-[Jack] Freshwater here.
-I've heard that so many times.
594
00:36:48,247 --> 00:36:53,711
The Great Lakes is the largest
fresh water area on the entire planet.
595
00:36:55,046 --> 00:36:57,381
It's almost as if
they were looking for open water,
596
00:36:57,465 --> 00:36:59,342
and they found it right here.
597
00:36:59,425 --> 00:37:02,345
And, uh, so there has to be a connection.
598
00:37:08,935 --> 00:37:10,811
[Holly] I always wanted to meet him.
599
00:37:10,895 --> 00:37:12,813
You know, being "the radar guy."
600
00:37:13,773 --> 00:37:15,900
He said, "I saw what I saw."
601
00:37:15,983 --> 00:37:18,194
So they see that we're not crazy.
602
00:37:18,277 --> 00:37:20,446
You know, what we saw was real.
603
00:37:21,155 --> 00:37:27,912
[Jeffrey] The 1994 sighting has
affected me in a popularity kind of way.
604
00:37:27,995 --> 00:37:30,957
And a lot of the inquiries, too,
are sincere.
605
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:36,545
But if the recording
from the radar operator did not exist,
606
00:37:36,629 --> 00:37:38,547
it would affect me differently, I believe.
607
00:37:38,631 --> 00:37:43,928
It would be more adverse, probably,
or more unbelievable to people.
608
00:37:44,595 --> 00:37:47,390
[Holly] We saw it out in the east sky.
609
00:37:48,057 --> 00:37:52,895
We could see, you know, the...
I guess you would call it metallic...
610
00:37:52,979 --> 00:37:55,273
-We could see that, yes.
-You could see that?
611
00:37:55,356 --> 00:37:59,193
I saw something
that I'd never seen before.
612
00:37:59,735 --> 00:38:02,780
The interesting thing to me
about the two lights was
613
00:38:02,863 --> 00:38:07,952
one of them broke away from the other
at a noticeably high speed.
614
00:38:10,496 --> 00:38:15,209
[Jack] When I was seeing the objects
between South Haven and Benton Harbor
615
00:38:15,293 --> 00:38:19,338
and yet the witnesses,
the police officer was in Holland,
616
00:38:20,589 --> 00:38:22,967
they couldn't tell
how far away or how high up.
617
00:38:23,050 --> 00:38:24,302
I could though.
618
00:38:24,385 --> 00:38:27,763
I could see exactly how far away they were
619
00:38:27,847 --> 00:38:29,432
and how high up they were.
620
00:38:29,515 --> 00:38:31,851
And it matched perfectly
with what they were seeing.
621
00:38:33,019 --> 00:38:36,188
Now I'm 100% sure
we were seeing the same thing.
622
00:38:36,272 --> 00:38:37,815
There's no doubt about it.
623
00:38:38,983 --> 00:38:41,444
The strangest thing I saw that night
624
00:38:41,527 --> 00:38:47,074
was when I was using the beam of my radar
to track the one object,
625
00:38:47,158 --> 00:38:49,493
and then it split into several objects.
626
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:55,791
And they began to make triangles,
and different rotating patterns,
627
00:38:55,875 --> 00:38:57,793
and also even rotating
628
00:38:57,877 --> 00:39:00,588
in the way that they were
going from horizontal to vertical.
629
00:39:00,671 --> 00:39:03,549
But the one thing that was very odd
630
00:39:03,632 --> 00:39:07,636
was each triangle was lined up perfectly
631
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:09,847
down the beam of the radar.
632
00:39:09,930 --> 00:39:11,974
If it was in any other position,
633
00:39:12,058 --> 00:39:14,769
I wouldn't have been able
to see it all in one beam.
634
00:39:15,686 --> 00:39:18,898
There was no way something could do that
635
00:39:18,981 --> 00:39:22,401
unless it knew where the radar was.
636
00:39:25,071 --> 00:39:28,574
To get that,
you have to be pretty intelligent.
637
00:39:30,201 --> 00:39:31,786
It almost made me wonder,
638
00:39:31,869 --> 00:39:34,288
are they communicating,
you know, this way?
639
00:39:35,748 --> 00:39:37,750
[ominous music playing]
640
00:39:45,591 --> 00:39:48,969
[Jack] I just keep having to say,
"What did I see that night?"
641
00:39:49,845 --> 00:39:53,933
"What did I see
going 72,000 miles per hour, at least,
642
00:39:54,016 --> 00:39:55,476
you know, in a second?"
643
00:39:56,685 --> 00:39:59,063
-[mysterious music playing]
-[Jack] What was it?
644
00:40:00,189 --> 00:40:02,066
What do you think you saw that night?
645
00:40:02,149 --> 00:40:03,776
It was a UFO.
646
00:40:04,985 --> 00:40:06,028
I know that.
647
00:40:06,654 --> 00:40:08,656
What do you think you saw that night?
648
00:40:11,367 --> 00:40:15,287
I... It's a tough question to answer
649
00:40:15,371 --> 00:40:20,793
because, um, you don't
wanna look like a kook, you know.
650
00:40:20,876 --> 00:40:23,921
But I've checked off
everything I could think of.
651
00:40:24,672 --> 00:40:26,507
But it looked like an extreme technology
652
00:40:26,590 --> 00:40:31,011
that seems like
it's hundreds of years, uh, advanced.
653
00:40:31,095 --> 00:40:33,055
More advanced than what we have.
654
00:40:33,722 --> 00:40:35,724
[eerie music playing]
655
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:39,562
[Michael] Nobody can
conclusively say these are
656
00:40:39,645 --> 00:40:42,398
any kind of extraterrestrial craft.
657
00:40:42,898 --> 00:40:44,275
Now, on the other hand,
658
00:40:45,651 --> 00:40:47,111
I look up at the universe,
659
00:40:48,988 --> 00:40:51,240
and I see the night sky.
660
00:40:51,782 --> 00:40:56,996
And I have a feeling we're not alone
in the vastness of this universe.
661
00:40:58,664 --> 00:41:00,749
It's been almost 30 years,
662
00:41:00,833 --> 00:41:05,671
and it's so gratifying to me
that I was a piece of that evening.
663
00:41:05,754 --> 00:41:08,048
[tranquil music playing]
664
00:41:08,883 --> 00:41:12,887
[Holly] When I look through here,
it takes me back almost 30 years.
665
00:41:13,721 --> 00:41:15,264
My children were small.
666
00:41:17,099 --> 00:41:18,851
It's a UFO. [chuckles]
667
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,812
I'm glad my babies got to see it.
668
00:41:24,273 --> 00:41:27,234
The two best things
that ever happened in my life
669
00:41:27,318 --> 00:41:28,444
were my children.
670
00:41:30,446 --> 00:41:34,658
And this night ranks right under that,
you know?
671
00:41:34,742 --> 00:41:38,204
It's even making me emotional here,
and I don't want to be emotional.
672
00:41:40,664 --> 00:41:44,251
I hope everybody in the world
can see what we saw that night.
673
00:41:46,754 --> 00:41:48,631
[William] When we get UFO reports in,
674
00:41:48,714 --> 00:41:52,009
it's understood that
we're only getting a small portion
675
00:41:52,092 --> 00:41:55,429
of the group of people
who may have seen something.
676
00:41:55,513 --> 00:41:58,641
We've only received a very small amount
677
00:41:58,724 --> 00:42:01,268
of the stories
that have happened that night.
678
00:42:01,894 --> 00:42:03,771
There are a lot more.
679
00:42:03,854 --> 00:42:07,775
And I would encourage people
to tell their story.
680
00:42:08,526 --> 00:42:10,444
This is a good time to do it. Why not?
681
00:42:10,528 --> 00:42:13,781
-[mysterious music playing]
-[William] It's time we talk about it.
682
00:42:17,618 --> 00:42:22,581
[Jack] I'm hoping that there's gonna be
some witnesses that will try to contact me
683
00:42:22,665 --> 00:42:27,211
and give me their story
about that March 8, 1994, event.
684
00:42:28,379 --> 00:42:33,551
Unless we finally figure out what this is
and there's hard proof about it,
685
00:42:33,634 --> 00:42:37,346
I am not going to give up
this obsession of mine
686
00:42:37,429 --> 00:42:38,973
to try to figure it out.
687
00:42:41,392 --> 00:42:43,811
I can see doing this the rest of my life.
688
00:42:51,652 --> 00:42:53,654
[mysterious music playing]