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There are countless factors
that can lead to your death.
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As senior coroner,
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I deal with nearly 4,500 fatalities
a year.
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LESLEY SHARP: The coroner can make
any inquiries necessary
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to find a cause of death.
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MAN: The police act on behalf
of the coroner.
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If the coroners asks, then we do it.
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With unprecedented access,
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we follow the coroner's
full investigation.
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Somebody somewhere will want to know
that this person's died.
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We're taking pieces of the jigsaw
to formulate a cause of death.
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From the moment
of arrival in the mortuary,
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to the final conclusion
of the inquest.
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WOMAN: All rise.
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I'm sorry that you're attending
court under these circumstances,
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and I appreciate that the evidence
that you will hear today
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may be distressing.
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I feel like no big event
happened to cause this.
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I need answers. I need to know
what happened that night.
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If you die here,
if it's violent, unnatural,
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or of an unknown cause,
it's my job to find out how.
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Steph, she was a loving daughter,
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loving sister, good mum.
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She just was funny.
She was someone who made you laugh.
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She touched a lot of people
just with how kind she was.
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Her personality just drew you in.
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TEARFUL: I can't even tell you,
like, what she was like,
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cos you had to just meet her
for yourself.
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My phone started ringing,
so I answered it.
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But what time was this at?
Six o'clock? Five, six-ish.
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So I answered the phone, she went,
"|'m just letting you know
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"Steph's been took in an ambulance,
but she's OK."
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I was like,
"What? "What do you mean?"
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"She's not had nothing to drink
and nothing to eat."
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So, she said, "Ring Carl".
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So, I said, "Carl, what's going on?"
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He said "|'m in the ambulance
with her now,
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"She's fine. Stop worrying.
Don't worry
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"She'll be home tomorrow,
tail between her legs."
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Ten to one, I gets a phone call,
it's a Blackburn number,
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and it was a nurse
from Blackburn Hospital.
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She said, "You need to come
with your mum and your sister
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"to the hospital now
because Stephanie's really unwell."
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So, I just said to the nurse,
"|s she gonna die?"
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Ancl she said...
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SH E EXHALES
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VOICE BREAKS: She said...
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"I can't tell you that, but you
just need to come straight away."
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PHONE RINGING
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SIRENS WAIL
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I've received a referral
from the police this morning
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for a young lady who's 32 years old.
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She has been at a music festival
at the weekend.
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And she's been there
with some friends and her partner,
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and it is believed she's taken
half a tablet of ecstasy.
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She started
to become short of breath
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and not really knowing what time
of clay it is or where she was.
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She has been treated
for dehydration.
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She stayed in overnight,
and sadly, she has passed away.
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So, what I'm going to do
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is I'm gonna pass all
the information on to the coroner,
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and I'm gonna request a CT scan
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in order to hopefully ascertain
a cause of death.
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I'm also gonna be
requesting toxicology,
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and this will allow for any alcohol
or substances to be identified.
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A CT postmortem scan is required to
try and establish a cause of death,
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but first, an external examination
needs to takes place.
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We'll look for any marks
externally on her.
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We will record
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any medical interventions
that happened in the A&E department.
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So, I'm writing down now that
she's got a line in the left hand,
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she's got a line in the left elbow.
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And then she's got these two
in her right hand.
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They've tried really hard
to keep her alive.
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It is really, really sad.
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This is a young girl
who's got her life ahead of her.
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She's got a young child.
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People go to festivals like this
to have a good time.
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I'm just going to clean her up
a little bit
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before we put her
in a sheet and a shroud.
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We always try to get them
as clean as we possibly can,
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just for the dignity.
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Coroner's officers
are investigating all possibilities
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around Stephanie's death,
including her medical history.
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just looking at her GP summary.
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I wonder
if she had high cholesterol.
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Stephanie's father, he's died
quite an early age at 52 years old,
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suddenly and unexpectedly.
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They've also two cousins,
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they have recently had heart attacks
and survived.
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So Stephanie,
her death may be related
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to something to do with her heart
given this history.
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It is the coroner's responsibility
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to look into
possible genetic conditions
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that may affect
other family members.
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RINGING TONE
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Hi, Susan,
it's Becky at the coroner's office.
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So, because Stephanie's father
had a sudden unexpected death
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at the age of 52,
and he had high cholesterol,
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what they've advised
is for all first-degree relatives...
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...to arrange with their GP to have
their cholesterol levels checked.
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She has had...
Your other daughter has had a test?
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Ancl have they come back high?
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Yeah, OK.
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Interestingly,
Stephanie's two sisters,
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they have got high cholesterol.
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So there's a good chance
that Stephanie has.
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If toxicology comes back negative,
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this could be
a natural cause of death,
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given the medical history
of the family.
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CHERIE: It's the ifs and buts,
isn't it?
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Was there something else going on
with Stephanie?
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We knew that she was unwell
the week of the festival,
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but Steph being Steph,
she were going no matter what.
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So was that a contributor
of how things happened?
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I've just come to collect
some admission bloods
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for Stephanie Thorpe.
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OK, that's fine.
All right, thanks.
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LESLEY SHARP:
32-year-old Stephanie Thorpe
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became ill at a music festival
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and was transferred
to Royal Blackburn Hospital,
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where she later died.
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Coroner's officers have requested
that the bloods
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and blood sciences be looked at
to see what's in them.
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As well as toxicology being taken,
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Stephanie has been transported
to Royal Preston Hospital
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for a postmortem CT scan.
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So, I've got Stephanie Thorpe.
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Yeah.
15-2-91.
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Yeah.
Perfect, thank you.
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Thank you.
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Due to the complexities of the case,
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it is being handed over
to a senior coroner's officer.
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The circumstances
are that she's taken ecstasy,
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and she was drinking alcohol.
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It's been reported
it was very hot on that clay,
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and possible dehydration
has been mentioned. OK.
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So, when she became ill, did she go
to the medical tent at the festival?
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Yeah, she went to the medical tent,
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and then she was transferred
via ambulance to Royal Blackburn.
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Cos there is a history of
high cholesterol in the family. OK.
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And there have been
some sudden deaths,
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including Stephanie's father.
OK.
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So that's being looked into as well.
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Who's this?
CHILD BABBLES
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Who's that?
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Mummy.
Mummy.
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WOW!
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It Mummy.
Is it Mummy again?
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Hiya, Mummy.
Hiya.
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Hiya.
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Look! Obviously, I think he
does know something's not right.
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Erm... he's not ate
for the past two days.
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He's ate today, he's had some cereal
and some jam on toast and that.
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Mummy.
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When we got into the festival,
we was together for a little bit,
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she went one way or whatever,
and I went another way,
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and I was with all the lads
or whatever,
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and she was with her friends.
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Then later on,
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must have been about half four,
five o'clock or something,
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and she was just, like,
sat down on the hill.
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And then it got to like six o'clock.
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And I'll always remember this cos...
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she kept saying,
"We need to go and get the minibus.
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"We need to go and get the minibus -
it's 11 o'clock."
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I said, "What do you mean
it's 11 o'clock?"
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She said, "The minibus is here,
it's 11 o'clock."
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And I said "It's not, Steph,
it's six o'clock.
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"Look, it's on my watch."
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So, I said, "Right, just sit down,
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"|'ll go get you some water,
and then you'll be fine."
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Obviously, they didn't have
no waters in the bars, did they?
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It was like a half an hour wait
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or a 40 minute wait or whatever
for the water.
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When I got back,
a couple of the lads had some water.
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Tried giving her some water,
but she wouldn't drink it.
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They took her down
to the medical tent
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and lay her on the bed
and put her on a drip straight away.
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And I just...
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HE CRIES
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I was, I...
HE SIGHS
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I had hold of her hand.
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"Please, Steph, come on."
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just didn't seem real at all.
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I don't...
Really don't think it's hit me yet.
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I know when it does,
it is gonna hit me hard.
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And obviously,
I've got to stay strong for him.
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STEPH: Smile for Mummy! Yeah!
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Hello.
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Today, we've got Stephanie Thorpe.
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She's come to us
from Blackburn mortuary.
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So, we'll start off by scanning her
from top to bottom.
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So, looking through
the initial scans,
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there's nothing
too obvious standing out,
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but we'll continue
and scan her head in more detail.
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Ancl also, her heart.
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We'll look for any calcification
in there as well.
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I imagine in a case like this,
the toxicology will be quite useful.
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SIRENS WAIL
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In Blackburn,
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police have been called to a house
where a man has been found deceased.
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He has been transferred
to Royal Blackburn mortuary.
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Lancashire police
have received a report
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from a concerned neighbour,
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who hadn't seen this gentleman
for a few weeks,
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so contacted the police.
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Right, it's in number 16.
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Police have attended,
they've forced entry to the house,
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and sadly, found this gentleman
deceased on the floor
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in the living room.
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There is a quite severe
decomposition present,
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which would suggest perhaps that
he's been there for quite some time.
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One of the things that the officers
did find in the address
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were multiple empty packets
of co-codamol tablets,
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so that's quite significant.
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Do you want some scissors
for his top?
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For his top, yeah.
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We don't usually cut clothing off
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because we pass clothing over
to the families,
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but in this case, we are needing
to cut his clothes off
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that he's wearing.
Yeah.
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There's no sign of any scars
or injuries to his face or head.
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It's that sort of plasticised
decomposition rather than green.
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When the human body starts
to decompose,
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it can decompose in various ways.
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It can either liquify,
or it can mummify.
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But in either case, you are losing
significant amounts of information
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as to what this person
has died from.
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Ancl whichever approach you take,
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CT postmortem
or invasive postmortem,
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you cannot extract information
that's not there.
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You cannot perform toxicology
when there are no samples left.
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It's not something
that everybody could do.
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I think it's one of the jobs
that you wouldn't know
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whether you would be able to do it
until you actually got in the role.
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In order for the coroner
to authorise
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that the deceased's funeral
can go ahead,
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he has to be satisfied
with the identification.
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The police officer
who attended the address
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has confirmed that there was
a number of letters in the address,
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and also an unopened box with the
gentleman's name and address on it.
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Those items that have been found
at the address,
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they are only items that assist
with the ID.
245
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They're circumstantial,
246
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and they are items that can be moved
either from or to the address.
247
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We need one primary ID,
248
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one of dental, fingerprints, or DNA.
249
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These are things
that come from the deceased,
250
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from the deceased's body
and confirm who the deceased is.
251
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Whilst coroner's officers search
for dental records,
252
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fingerprint officers
have arrived at the mortuary
253
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to try and establish
the man's identity.
254
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So, I'm gonna put a bit
of fingerprint powder on now.
255
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Have a look with
the magnifying glass,
256
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see what you can see.
257
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Oh, we might get a bit there.
If you can clean that up at all.
258
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These are the records
that we hold on file, fingerprints,
259
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and this is the name that
we've been given by the officers.
260
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All we just need is just one area to
satisfy us as fingerprint officers
261
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that we can make
a positive identification.
262
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It's not looking good,
but we've gotta try.
263
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Four days after
Stephanie Thorpe died,
264
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friends and family
have come together.
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CHERIE: The balloons
are in memory of Stephanie.
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Ancl celebrating Stephanie.
Celebrating her life.
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Showing how much she was loved.
268
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It was honestly not one bad bone
in that girl's body,
269
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and she were just a pure soul.
270
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CARL: She was loved by everyone
that she ever met.
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Really didn't know
how special she was,
272
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and, like, the amount of people
who's been here today
273
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just shows how many people loved her
and how amazing she was.
274
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She was loved from all over.
275
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Everywhere.
All over.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
277
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Once seen, never forgotten.
Yeah.
278
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Hundred percent.
Yeah.
279
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Wow.
Yeah.
280
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I love you both, yeah.
I love you.
281
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CHEERING
282
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A radiologist is looking
at Stephanie Thorpe's CT scan
283
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to try and establish
a cause of death.
284
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She was described as being
confused and disorientated.
285
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Now that clearly could be
clue to alcohol and drugs,
286
00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,975
but it's important
from a radiological perspective
287
00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,335
to exclude an alternative cause
for that,
288
00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:40,255
which may be obviously something,
pathology within the brain,
289
00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,775
for example, bleed or a stroke.
290
00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:47,495
Ancl we can't see any acute pathology
here in the brain.
291
00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,175
It's important
to look through the lungs
292
00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,455
just to make sure
there's no evidence
293
00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:52,615
of underlying lung disease.
294
00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,015
Some people can have
underlying cardiac abnormalities
295
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that they're completely unaware of.
296
00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,855
In this case,
there's nothing abnormal
297
00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,415
in terms of the radiological
appearances of the heart.
298
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,055
Scan is that of
a normal, healthy 32-year-old woman
299
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with no underlying pathologies
detectable.
300
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,335
The coroner has ordered
further investigations
301
00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:14,775
into Stephanie's death,
302
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,015
including toxicology
and an invasive postmortem.
303
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,255
Stephanie Thorpe appears
to have possibly taken
304
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,855
half a tablet of ecstasy.
305
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,735
This may be a drugs-related death,
306
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,415
but if you do not then consider
an invasive postmortem,
307
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,335
you may lose the information if you
release the body for the funeral.
308
00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:40,055
There's always a genetic possibility
309
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,535
in young people
who die quickly and unexpectedly.
310
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,415
We will be sending material off
for genetic analysis,
311
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,335
which can be used at
a later date for genetic studies.
312
00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,935
I'm gonna need a pot
for the histology.
313
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:03,415
I've taken some samples now
to look at under the microscope...
314
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,095
...and I'm gonna take samples
from the kidneys, liver...
315
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,895
...heart and lungs...
316
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,575
to send off for genetic testing.
317
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,855
We was in a state of shock because
it's gone from "Oh, she's OK,
318
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,815
"she'll be home in the morning,
she's just got dehydration,
319
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,295
"she's got heat exhaustion",
to "She's in organ failure."
320
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,775
I knew she was run down
and she was unwell.
321
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,095
She had a bit of a bad chest,
didn't she?
322
00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:44,815
Cos we was saying
"Don't go," you know.
323
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,175
But obviously, she had FOMO,
fear of missing out. Yeah.
324
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,535
She wanted to go, and she found out
K-Klass were playing,
325
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,335
one of her favourite acts,
so she's, "|'m definitely going"
326
00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:54,535
So, we knew she was obviously
a bit uncler the weather...
327
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,415
...so I don't think that's helped.
328
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,975
To go from her walking
in that festival,
329
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,655
cos I've seen the videos
of her walking in happy
330
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,255
and laughing with everybody.
331
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,095
That was like, at what? Dinner time?
332
00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:09,615
That's what I can't get my head
around.
333
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,575
Obviously, there's something
gone on with this lady
334
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,495
which has caused damage.
335
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,375
For example,
the liver has changed colour,
336
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,175
things look abnormal.
337
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,615
But I can't see the cause of it yet.
338
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,655
And that's
why I'm sampling the tissue.
339
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,455
And obviously,
we've sent off for toxicology.
340
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,735
The coroner's office
has new information
341
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,855
on the Stephanie Thorpe case.
342
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,455
ALICE SWARBRICK: So, we received
some witness statements
343
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,815
of people who were present
at the festival.
344
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,295
It's confirmed that Stephanie
was able to purchase
345
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,655
a bottle of water
earlier on in the clay.
346
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,415
However, it is reported
347
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,735
that the festival ran out of water
for a period of time later on.
348
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,455
So Stephanie was dehydrated.
349
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,375
What we need to determine is
350
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:12,455
whether the dehydration has caused
or contributed to her death.
351
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,255
Depending on whether
that's caused or contributed
352
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,455
will result in a conversation
with Dr Adeley,
353
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,535
who will then possibly
refer this back to the police
354
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:22,935
for them to investigate further.
355
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,415
LESLEY SHARP: Coroner's officers
are investigating the death
356
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,535
of-32-year-old Stephanie Thorpe,
357
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,335
who died after becoming seriously
ill at a local music festival.
358
00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:46,055
I've spoken with the police,
359
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,415
and they've highlighted
a couple of concerns.
360
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,855
One is that the weather was 26
degrees on the clay of the festival,
361
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,535
and there's the question as to
whether there was enough access
362
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,735
to water at the festival
for the people that attended.
363
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,855
So, first, could you speak
to the family and friends
364
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,295
and see whether she had water
and if she was drinking?
365
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,975
Could you contact
the A&E doctors and the ITU doctors
366
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,375
at Royal Blackburn hospital
and see what they've got to say,
367
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,015
either on biochemical tests
or on physical examination,
368
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,815
as to whether she's dehydrated?
OK.
369
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,175
I'd be also be grateful
if you can have a look...
370
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,415
It will be something like
the Health and Safety Executive
371
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,815
for guidance for provision of water
at large events or festivals.
372
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,215
If you could find that,
I'd be grateful.
373
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,335
OK, no problem.
374
00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:34,295
Once you've got
that additional information,
375
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,575
we'll know which way
this case is going to develop.
376
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,495
CLAIRE WATT: My role at the festival
377
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,375
was to be one
of the paramedics there
378
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,735
to look after
all the festival-goers,
379
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,095
and I got a phone call
from a colleague
380
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:53,855
to say
we had an unresponsive patient.
381
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,015
Stephanie was on the stretcher
in the first aid tent.
382
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,575
She'd already been cannulated
at that point by my colleague.
383
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,535
We were pushing fluids through her,
but I realised very quickly
384
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,415
that her temperature
was excessively high.
385
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,335
Stephanie's temperature was 41.1.
386
00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:18,095
The body cannot sustain
a temperature of 41.1.
387
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,535
Sol packed her groin,
under her armpits
388
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,015
with ice packs,
and behind her neck
389
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,655
to try and cool her down,
to get her body temperature down.
390
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,935
Her heart rate on our machine
391
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,335
was reading anywhere
between 170 and 203,
392
00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:39,375
and in my career, I've never seen
a heart rate that high.
393
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,775
'I got the local ambulance service
on the phone.
394
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,135
'They were there
incredibly quickly.'
395
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,335
All I could do
was try to keep her alive
396
00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:51,255
as long as I could,
to get her to, you know,
397
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,455
definitive care,
which was the hospital.
398
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,535
The investigation
into Stephanie's death is ongoing.
399
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,215
But with all samples collected,
400
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,535
Stephanie can be released
to her family.
401
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,775
CLAIRE: You knew when Steph
was in the room, you just knew.
402
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,255
just being from a little girl,
I remember when she were born.
403
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,935
You know, I remember going
into the living room to hold her,
404
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,735
and she had these chubby cheeks
and this ginger hair.
405
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,175
She were, she were just the life
and soul like you said, wasn't she?
406
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,295
She was, yeah.
407
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,935
Ancl the amount of, like,
family parties that we've had
408
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,015
and, you know, gatherings and stuff,
just in the kitchen,
409
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,375
and she was always the one,
you know,
410
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,735
making a funny dance up or,
you know, getting everybody going.
411
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,695
Sorry.
412
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,695
Erm, she's the best.
413
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,495
Your brain can't just process
that's she not actually here.
414
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,615
She's too young, she's got a baby,
415
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,255
she was at a really good point
in life.
416
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,935
It's a funny thing, grief,
417
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,815
cos I just want to know
that when it happened she weren't,
418
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,055
she weren't scared.
419
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,615
When you go back to the last time
that you spoke to somebody,
420
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,655
cos you can't help it, you just do.
421
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,175
Ancl the last time
I actually spoke to her, and then...
422
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,095
Ancl she, she had me laughing,
she were telling me about a story
423
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:03,175
about her going into a nightclub
with the baby's backpack on
424
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,775
with these nappies and dummies
and everything in it.
425
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,055
Ancl she got searched on the way in,
and she said,
426
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,855
"And I danced all night
with this backpack on my back."
427
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,815
I was laughing.
428
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,215
Ancl then, before I were leaving,
I give her...
429
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,175
cos I do it to everybody
that I love, I give them a hug
430
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,495
and say, "I love you, I love you."
431
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,375
And I'm so glad I did, cos that was
432
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,895
literally the last time
that I seen her.
433
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,255
Fingerprint officers
are carrying out investigations
434
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,095
to try and identify a man
435
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:50,695
who was found deceased
in a house in Blackburn.
436
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,375
Can see creases.
You can see creases.
437
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,055
You can see them...
Slight ridge detail.
438
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,695
You can see some ridge detail,
439
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,975
but we can't necessarily see
any characteristics,
440
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,255
which we need for identification.
441
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,575
That's not....
442
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,295
No, the detail isn't showing up
443
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,655
good enough to get an identification
from, from that.
444
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,855
So we're going to try lifting
with adhesive tape.
445
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,175
The problem that we've got
with this
446
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,815
is that visual identification's
impossible.
447
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,415
Dental identification
might be possible,
448
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,095
but we've got to find his dentist
449
00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:23,255
in order to get the dental records
to compare them.
450
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,815
DNA is possible, but we need
a match to match it against.
451
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,855
So all of these are being looked at.
452
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,775
The easiest one is fingerprints.
453
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,295
Yeah, it's even worse
than the photo, that.
454
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,095
No, we've not been successful.
There's just not enough detail.
455
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,655
It's not been possible
to obtain fingerprints
456
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,015
from this gentleman,
due to the decomposition.
457
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,655
So under these circumstances,
what I've now asked for
458
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,055
is for the mortuary to take a deep
muscle tissue sample from him.
459
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,095
The police will collect that
from the mortuary,
460
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,775
and they will submit that
for DNA testing.
461
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,535
That DNA sample will be compared
with the DNA database.
462
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,055
And hopefully,
then we'll be able to confirm
463
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,255
the identification
of this gentleman.
464
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,535
So, I'm just exposing the thighs
on this gentleman
465
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,815
so that I can get the tissue sample.
466
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:29,895
I'm just looking.
467
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,255
This, this thigh here
looks in the better condition.
468
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,935
So I'm going
to get my sample there.
469
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,815
just a case of making
a short incision through the skin.
470
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,015
It's important to find out
471
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,455
that the deceased is the person
that we think we are dealing with,
472
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,255
because,
once the funeral has taken place,
473
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,175
if it's a cremation,
474
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,695
after that, we're past the point
of no return.
475
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,015
That's why the identification
is so important.
476
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,175
I'm just reconstructing this
incision that I've made in his leg.
477
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,575
Although our chap here is
a little the worst for wear,
478
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,535
we don't want to leave anybody
479
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,255
in a worse condition
than we found them.
480
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,375
With the DNA samples taken,
481
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,615
the cause of death
now needs to be established.
482
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,735
So, we're just scanning
through his head now.
483
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,455
Within the head scan,
the black is air,
484
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,055
so there's a lot more air present.
485
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,775
The brain tissue, unfortunately,
486
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,495
looks like it has started
to deteriorate and decompose.
487
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,855
So, we will now send these images
on to our radiologist,
488
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,455
who will interpret them,
write up an official report,
489
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,135
and then forward that on
to the coroner.
490
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,415
As instructed by Dr Adeley,
Coroner's Officer Manager Alice
491
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,815
needs to ascertain
whether Stephanie Thorpe had water
492
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,135
when she became seriously ill
at a music festival.
493
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,535
PHONE RINGING
494
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,215
ALICE: Hello, is that Carl?
'Hiya, yeah.'
495
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,895
I know it's difficult to talk about,
but we need to understand
496
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,295
what drinks she'd had
prior to entering the festival
497
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,975
and what drinks she had whilst
at the festival. Yeah, yeah.
498
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,615
An independent report
on the dehydration levels
499
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,895
has been undertaken
by Dr Mark Clayton,
500
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,055
who specialises in this area.
501
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,415
In terms of the evidence
that I'm looking at,
502
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,015
it's clear that Stephanie ingested
a pill at some point during the clay.
503
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,415
However, there are a number
of unpleasant side effects.
504
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,815
Very high heart rate,
so 140, 200 beats a minute.
505
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,615
Ancl we see patients present
really hot,
506
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,375
temperatures as high as 42,
44 degrees,
507
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,335
and it can cause muscle breakdown,
508
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,575
and that was probably present
in Stephanie's case here.
509
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,135
There are lots of factors that can
make your use of ecstasy more risky,
510
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,935
to make you more at risk of harm.
511
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,895
One of those is dehydration.
512
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,495
Being dehydrated means
that the concentration of things
513
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,335
in your blood is higher
than it normally would be.
514
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,655
It's as simple as that.
515
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,335
So, if you're dehydrated,
your blood volume is lower,
516
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,215
and therefore, everything
in your blood is more concentrated.
517
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,815
And that includes
your naturally occurring substances,
518
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,615
toxins produced by your body,
and drugs that you ingest.
519
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,495
So Dr Adeley has asked me to look
at the provision of water.
520
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,335
Ancl there are some reports
from the statements that I've read
521
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,615
that suggest that there was
an inadequate supply of water
522
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,895
at the event.
523
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,335
Under UK law,
the licence holder for the festival,
524
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,935
because they're selling
intoxicating drinks, alcohol,
525
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,335
they must provide free water
to those that attend the event.
526
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,295
Ancl there has been concern raised
from a number of different sources
527
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,935
in the evidence that I've read
528
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,735
that suggests
there was not enough water on site.
529
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,375
Stephanie Thorpe is a young woman,
she's a mother,
530
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,655
she has her whole life
in front of her,
531
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,975
and her death is a tragedy.
532
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,175
This case has required
significant investigation.
533
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,015
It's required toxicology,
it's required statements
534
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,015
from all of those
that were with her on the clay,
535
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,375
statement from those
that treated her from the hospital,
536
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,015
and an external report
from somebody who can advise
537
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,015
on the provision of care
in these festivals.
538
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,655
Once the evidence
has been collected and reviewed,
539
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,375
we will decide upon the witnesses,
540
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,295
and then this will go forward
to an inquest
541
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,095
to provide answers for the family.
542
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,695
MINISTER: We have entrusted
Stephanie to God's mercy.
543
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,375
We now commit her body
to the ground...
544
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,135
MOURNERS SOBBING
..earth to earth,
545
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,815
ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
546
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,495
WOMAN: We love you.
MOURNERS: We love you, Steph.
547
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,735
WH ISTLES, APPLAUSE,
CH EERING
548
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,055
LESLEY SHARP:
As part of the investigation
549
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,135
into Stephanie Thorpe's death,
550
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,015
an independent report
has been provided to the coroner.
551
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,495
PHONE RINGING
552
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,815
CARL ON PHONE: 'HERO?
553
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,535
Hi Carl, it's Alice Swarbrick,
Coroner's officer.
554
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,775
'Hiya.'
555
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,495
So, what they're saying is
556
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,055
it appears
that there's a mandatory requirement
557
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,015
of the licence to have free water.
558
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,535
Ancl this condition
wasn't complied with.
559
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,935
Although concerning in general,
560
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,575
they've not seen any evidence
to suggest that Stephanie tried
561
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,895
to unsuccessfully obtain water
from the event.
562
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,575
They were unable to comment
563
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,175
whether the issues with the supply
of water on site
564
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,535
contributed to her dehydration.
565
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,935
So, although there's information
to say there is a lack of water,
566
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,415
that's something that's going
to be dealt with separately.
567
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,095
'Right.'
568
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,135
As the dehydration report
could not find any evidence
569
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,015
that Stephanie
was unable to access water,
570
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,255
the water provision at the festival
will not form part of the inquest.
571
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,335
The build-up's been hard,
so now it's even worse
572
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,775
cos we've been waiting for so long.
573
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,735
I think I'm scared that
we're going to hear something where
574
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,095
she could have been saved,
and if she could,
575
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,495
then things could have been
different.
576
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,095
I think that is one of my fears.
577
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,655
ALICE:
The way the inquest will work,
578
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,655
it's a fact-finding process.
579
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,015
We're not here to apportion blame,
580
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,415
we're just here to try
and determine what's happened.
581
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,495
WOMAN: All rise.
582
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,695
MAN: Perhaps you could start
by explaining
583
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:03,335
whether or not
there have been changes
584
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,695
in the concentration
of ecstasy tablets
585
00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:07,655
over, say, the last five years,
please.
586
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,455
Since the pandemic,
587
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,135
there has been a general upswing
in the concentration of ecstasy,
588
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,055
up to two or three times
the average close.
589
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,575
We normally expect
95 to 100 milligrams,
590
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,215
and these were up to 250
to 300 milligrams per tablet.
591
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,415
What I'm interested in here
592
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,215
is how does the ecstasy
affect Stephanie?
593
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:32,775
So, in Stephanie's specific context,
she was dehydrated.
594
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,775
The clay was hot,
and the clay was humid,
595
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,335
which means that her body's ability
to lose heat was impaired.
596
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,935
I don't have good evidence
either way
597
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,695
to say that she was dancing
excessively or energetically.
598
00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:46,415
But if she were,
she would be producing more heat.
599
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,015
But once you cross that threshold
600
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,455
of around that 20-degree value
of temperature,
601
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,495
then suddenly, the risk of harm
from the ecstasy increases.
602
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,215
So, there are multiple factors
at play.
603
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:00,615
This is a situation
604
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,135
where a young woman
is taking a tablet of ecstasy
605
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,495
that she doesn't know
the strength of.
606
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,575
And it's combined
with other contributing factors
607
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,375
of the heat of the clay,
and exercise.
608
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,975
In my view, this is a death
that nobody intended.
609
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,815
Ancl so Stephanie Lauren Thorpe
died an accidental death.
610
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,295
The family has asked
to make a statement.
611
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,935
We know, and are aware, as a family
that Stephanie on that clay
612
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,215
took recreational drugs,
613
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:44,735
like thousands
of other festival-goers.
614
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,895
The question is
why did this happen to just her?
615
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,015
We feel that there is going to be
a lot of lessons to be learnt.
616
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,775
So with that said, we know
617
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,175
it is most likely going to be
one of the factors of her death.
618
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,935
But we can reassure you
619
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:04,695
that this does not and never will
define her of who... of who she was.
620
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,535
SOBS GENTLY
621
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:13,535
I will take the points
of learning
622
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,095
that are peripheral
to Stephanie's death,
623
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,895
because it's important
624
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,695
that festivals
are as safe as they can be
625
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:23,775
and that the authorities
who licence these
626
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,895
are aware of events
that have occurred,
627
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,255
can take these into account
in the future planning
628
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,295
and authorisation
and licencing of such events.
629
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,775
Ancl I will be writing
to the various authorities involved.
630
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,855
Radiologists are trying
to establish a cause of death
631
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,535
for the so-far unidentified man.
632
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,135
Can tell from the scan that there is
a lot of gas, abnormal gas around,
633
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,535
which we see with decomposition.
634
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,535
Ancl that is gonna,
like it or not,
635
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,615
compromise the scan
in terms of diagnostic value.
636
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,175
All the black areas here are gas.
637
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,975
What we can see here is the heart
638
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,855
and two
of the main coronary arteries
639
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,335
that supply the heart muscle.
640
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,935
There's significant area
of calcification
641
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,375
in the left anterior
descending coronary artery...
642
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,295
...and also, a further area
of focal-heavy calcification
643
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,735
in the circumflex coronary artery.
644
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,135
So what we do know is that this
gentleman has certainly got evidence
645
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,535
of coronary artery disease,
coronary artery calcification.
646
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,535
So that is a cause of death,
based on what we're finding.
647
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,855
The coroners' team has also
been working on the man's identity.
648
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,775
The coroner is now in receipt
of the forensic result report.
649
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,335
The deep muscle tissue
taken from the deceased
650
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,975
has been compared
with the DNA database.
651
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,215
It has confirmed that the DNA
findings support the view
652
00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:17,895
that the deceased is the gentleman
653
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,295
that we thought
we were dealing with.
654
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,215
Number 16.
655
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,415
In this case,
656
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,175
the principal difficulty
was identifying who had cited.
657
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,215
The cause of death
was relatively straightforward,
658
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:43,935
that was from the CT scan.
659
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,495
But now
we've established his identify,
660
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,175
the case can be closed,
and there is no need for an inquest.
661
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,855
With a formal identify confirmed,
662
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,775
coroner's officers were able
to contact a next of kin.
663
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,135
They are happy
for the story to be told
664
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,335
but have asked for it
to remain anonymous.
665
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,095
Today is Stephanie's 33rd birthday,
666
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,695
and obviously, it's the first one
since she's passed.
667
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:43,455
Ancl only seven months has gone past.
668
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,295
Ancl as it's her first one
that she's not with us,
669
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,735
obviously it's gonna hurt the worst.
670
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,095
So we just thought
that we'd all come together.
671
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:02,615
It's obviously looking after Alfie
and keeping her memory alive...
672
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,215
...so then he, he'll always know
how wonderful she was,
673
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:10,575
and how,
how much of a character she was.
674
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,895
And... I say it,
I say it a million times a clay,
675
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,375
just once seen, never forgotten,
676
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,855
No-one will ever forget,
and we'll make sure of that.
677
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,855
You don't get to choose
the timing of your death.
678
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,175
We were supposed to be working,
and he didn't turn up.
679
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,895
This is completely dislocated,
680
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,935
and this is leading
to constriction of the spinal cord.
681
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,775
ELECTRONIC BUZZ
682
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,215
MAN:
683
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:30,215
Has Joyce had
some sort of medical event,
684
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:32,815
or has she sustained
some traumatic injuries
685
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,415
which have caused her death?