1 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,935 MAN: There are countless factors that can lead to your death. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,375 As senior coroner, 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,935 I deal with nearly 4,500 fatalities a year. 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,775 NARRATOR: The coroner can make any inquiries necessary 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,215 to find a cause of death. 6 00:00:22,240 --> 00:00:25,015 MAN: The police act on behalf of the coroner. 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,975 If the coroner asks, we do it. 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,655 We need to be alert to the fact 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,695 there could be something more sinister in this. 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:36,455 With unprecedented access, we follow the coroner's full investigation... 11 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:38,815 It does make you realise how fragile life is. 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,495 Let's start and just work our way up. 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,775 Forensic medicine is all about being very suspicious. 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,495 ...from the moment of arrival in the mortuary 15 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,975 to the final conclusion of the inquest. 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,695 All rise. 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,455 I'm sorry that you're attending court under these circumstances, 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,015 and I appreciate 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,335 that the evidence that you will hear today may be distressing. 20 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,695 I never thought I'd find myself in a coroner's court. 21 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,055 You shouldn't have to organise a funeral for your children. 22 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,975 If you die here, if it's violent, unnatural, 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,575 or of an unknown cause, it's my job to find out how. 24 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,495 WHIRRING 25 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,375 Police have been called to a flat in Preston. 26 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,935 A man is known to live there alone, 27 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:45,775 and neighbours are concerned about his welfare. 28 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,495 The man has been found deceased. 29 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:01,095 The man has been named as 63-year-old Raymond Rahamatally, 30 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,735 and he has been transported to the mortuary at Royal Preston Hospital. 31 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,535 So, the police had reported to us 32 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,895 that they'd received a call from a concerned friend 33 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:24,575 with regards to Raymond, that they've not seen him for some time. 34 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,335 Although all the circumstances, details within the property 35 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,775 directed them to believe that it was Raymond, 36 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,975 there was nobody that could do that formal identification at the scene. 37 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,095 Family had provided us with some photographs of Raymond. 38 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,095 However, they were from some time ago, 39 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,455 from when he was quite young, 40 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,735 so we couldn't actually use those photographs 41 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,575 for the formal identification. 42 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,255 So they've agreed to come to the mortuary today 43 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,535 to do that formal identification for us. 44 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,895 This will be clone behind glass, 45 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,455 and that's purely clue to the circumstances 46 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:59,935 of how he's been found. 47 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:02,295 This will be quite difficult. 48 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,575 It's trying to explain to the family now 49 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,935 the next stages of the process 50 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,295 so we can then confirm what he's died from. 51 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,895 Today is to help us with the formal identification. Mm-hm. 52 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,375 He looks like he's sleeping, but just to be mindful, 53 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,735 there are some marks around his chin area, 54 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,055 I think they're like sores, probably in keeping with his skin condition, 55 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,375 but just to make you aware, 56 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,735 there are some marks around the mouth area 57 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,215 and the chin. Is that OK? Yeah. 58 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,855 Are you all right to go through? 59 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,215 Raymond's family last saw him around three weeks ago. 60 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,495 OK. 61 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,175 So, can you confirm that that is Raymond? 62 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,695 It is Raymond, yes. It is? OK. Yeah. 63 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,015 Do we know what the marks are around his mouth at all? 64 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,575 I'm not quite sure. 65 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,895 They look like sores, so whether it's part of his skin condition, 66 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,775 whether he's fallen... 67 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,055 Do you know... What was his mobility like? 68 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,415 He could walk, but obviously... 69 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,295 I don't know if you've seen his legs. 70 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,855 The police did say that his legs were very bad... Yes. 71 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,255 ...with the ulcers. They'd been like that for a long time. 72 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:15,335 Bizarre, cos he didn't have anything like that when we last saw him. 73 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,095 He did have a little sore sort of around his eye, 74 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,295 but there was nothing around his mouth at all. 75 00:05:26,280 --> 00:05:28,975 Coroner's officer manager Alice 76 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,455 needs to find out as much as she can about Raymond from his family 77 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,975 to begin the investigation into his death. 78 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,015 Did he drink at all? No. 79 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,055 No drink, no drugs, didn't smoke? No, nothing, no. 80 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,255 There is a family history of heart problems as well. 81 00:05:44,280 --> 00:05:46,255 OK. What heart problems? 82 00:05:46,280 --> 00:05:48,015 My mother's parents died quite young. 83 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,535 I think they were in their 40s, early 50s. 84 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,095 Ancl that was heart failure? Yes. 85 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,175 OK. It was, yes. 86 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,455 His grandparents? Grandma's sisters as well. 87 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:56,615 They all died young. 88 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,215 Oh, yeah, my mother's sister died... 89 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,975 So, there's a history of... ..at about 36. 90 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,535 ...heart disease within the family? 91 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,495 So what we'll do is now, 92 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,295 I'll process this through to the coroner, 93 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,495 I'll confirm that the formal identification has taken place. 94 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,895 They“ then authoflse a CT post-modem, 95 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,815 and as soon as I get any results through, 96 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:15,335 I'll give you a call, let you know. Thanks very much for your help. 97 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:21,935 So, at this moment in time, we don't know how he's cited. 98 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,255 All we know are the circumstances of when he was last seen 99 00:06:26,280 --> 00:06:28,615 by neighbours, by family. 100 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:33,135 They did comment, though, about family history of heart conditions. 101 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,655 So I'll make a note of that to the coroner, 102 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,375 but also for the radiologist, for when they're reviewing the scan, 103 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,135 so they can maybe look more particular around the heart area 104 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,055 to see if there's an underlying heart condition 105 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,335 they weren't aware he had. 106 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,855 We just don't know at this moment in time. 107 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,095 Sometimes, it is a bit weird if you're the first one in, 108 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,375 everywhere's dark, 109 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,695 and obviously, doing it for so long, you just get used to it. 110 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,495 So, we open everywhere up first, open the shutter, 111 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,895 all the doors, office doors. 112 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,135 We'll go into the fridge room and see who's come in overnight, 113 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,215 start to measure them up for coffin sizes and things like that. 114 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,535 I suppose if you thought about it too much, 115 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,415 how many people are in the fridge, it could almost upset you a bit, 116 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,335 and I suppose, for some people, that might scare them a bit 117 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,055 cos there's so many people in here that have passed away. 118 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:57,135 But I just see it that I'm just looking after them, 119 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,415 and I'm looking after the ones that have then come into us overnight, 120 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,775 and make sure that everybody's in the condition 121 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,015 that they should be for the start of the clay. 122 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,735 NARRATOR: The coroner has opened up an investigation 123 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,695 into a man found deceased in his flat 124 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,655 who hadn't been seen by his family for almost three weeks. 125 00:08:34,680 --> 00:08:37,455 Raymond Rahamatally was a 63-year-old gentleman 126 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,135 who lived alone, and he was last seen around Christmas time. 127 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,855 However, his neighbour raised a concern for his welfare 128 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,655 because she'd seen that the light in his flat had been on 129 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:51,695 since New Year, and it was now the 12th ofjanuary. 130 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,975 So police attended for a welfare call 131 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,215 and found Mr Rahamatally deceased inside. 132 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,215 What they have noted when they were checking Raymond 133 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,575 was that the lower part of his legs 134 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,855 and his feet had sores on them, a bit like ulcers, 135 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,735 that obviously caused a bit of concern, because the... 136 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,335 His trousers had actually stuck to those sores on his legs. 137 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,735 So, the family stated that Raymond suffered with 0CD, 138 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:28,575 washed his hands a lot, which caused the skin to become red and itchy. 139 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,375 They also confirmed he had circulatory problems 140 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,935 and the condition with the lower part of his legs, 141 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,295 which looked a bit like ulcers. 142 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,495 Ancl he was a bit of a recluse, kept himself to himself, 143 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,975 and he's not wanted to accept any help or support 144 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,975 from any of his neighbours, family or the GP. 145 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,655 So what we'll do is, we'll process this 146 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:50,135 through to the coroner for a CT post-mortem. 147 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,495 The coroner may request for an invasive post-mortem. 148 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,295 We're not quite sure at this time, so we'll wait and see what happens. 149 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,135 We saw Raymond at Christmas, 150 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,535 and we went round again in the new year, 151 00:10:01,560 --> 00:10:03,575 but we couldn't get an answer. 152 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,375 Raymond was kind of a reclusive character. 153 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,295 Not easy to talk to, 154 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,655 very insular. 155 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:15,415 We always knew he kind of had issues and difficulties. 156 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,455 Sometimes, he didn't answer his door, though, 157 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,815 when we went round, so we just thought, 158 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,775 "Well, we'll call back in a couple of weeks, see how he is." 159 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,695 But we didn't get to call back in a couple of weeks, no. 160 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,775 I'd like to know exactly what's happened and why it happened. 161 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,775 At the end of the clay, I need the facts. I'd like the facts. 162 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,775 A post-mortem CT scan 163 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,455 may provide answers to the cause of Raymond's death. 164 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,815 But before the scan takes place, 165 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,095 there needs to be an external examination. 166 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,975 So, I've got Raymond. 167 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,335 Mm-hm. Yeah. Right wrist. OK. 168 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,695 Pacemaker? None seen. 169 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,815 Hypostasis? Posterior. 170 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:01,935 Yes. 171 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:06,695 Skin slip to lower legs, right arm. 172 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,095 So, around his eyes and nose, 173 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,775 he's got, like, this white material. 174 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,535 OK. 175 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:20,295 Dry, flaky skin to the whole of the body, 176 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:25,375 and some cracking to the skin on the hands. 177 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,775 Extensive ulcerated areas. 178 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,575 Just some pictures, yeah. Yeah, do photos, yeah? Please. 179 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:38,855 Just take a closer one of his legs. 180 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,655 The photos are just good for them to look at 181 00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:44,895 if they're in a bit of a bad way. His legs are quite bad. 182 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,855 It's important we've got the picture as well as, you know, 183 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,375 the description on the external. 184 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:57,255 Raymond was a very individual type. Very much into rock and roll. 185 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,415 But a really big, big fan of football. 186 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,335 Used to go a lot with his father to Preston North End, 187 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,975 and he played as well. 188 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,735 Ancl Raymond was excellent at football. 189 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:13,055 He had a real hardcore dream of playing for Preston North End 190 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,535 and did go for trials 191 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:19,295 and was heavily involved in the younger team. 192 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,815 He was very good, so much so that on one occasion, 193 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,415 there was an international match at Preston North End. 194 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,775 Apparently, Raymond scored the winning goal. 195 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,855 And what we had round at our house afterwards 196 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,815 was quite a large group of, in the majority, girls 197 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,895 all shouting Raymond's name in the street for him to come down. 198 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,495 I remember my mother saying, "Oh, you know, make them go away, 199 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,535 "they're annoying the neighbours!" 200 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:46,895 He did believe that he was on the road 201 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,015 to something that he really wanted to do. 202 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,335 Raymond, he was about 17, 18, 203 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,935 he injured his knee quite badly, and, unfortunately, 204 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,615 he failed the trial for Preston North End 205 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,335 when he went for it. 206 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,975 Ancl when they turned him down, that was... 207 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,335 That kind of finished him, really. 208 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,695 And he got an ofter from Blackburn Rovers, 209 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,615 so it wasn't as though he wasn't good enough full stop. 210 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,095 For him, it was Preston or nothing, really. 211 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,855 After that, he sort of lost his way a little bit. 212 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:33,855 He had a few jobs but didn't really take to anything at all. 213 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,255 I think that was the start of him becoming quite isolated, really, 214 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,735 within himself. 215 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:47,135 A post-mortem CT scan may help to understand Raymond's cause of death. 216 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,975 So, we're gonna start by doing a full body scan. 217 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,535 We're looking for anything glaringly obvious as we go. 218 00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:02,815 So, initially, 219 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,455 there doesn't appear to be anything obvious going on in his head, 220 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,815 or any sort of ruptures of his aorta 221 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,415 or anything like that that could have been a clear cause of death. 222 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:17,895 Looking down at his legs, you can see there's some skin changes. 223 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,295 So, there is something going on with his lower legs, I would say. 224 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,135 So, you can sort of see the difference. 225 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,775 The area above the knee, you can see the border of the skin 226 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,975 is nice and smooth, and that's what we'd normally expect to see. 227 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,415 And as we come down into the lower legs, 228 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,815 you can sort of see the texture changes quite dramatically. 229 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,295 There only appears to be a small amount of calcium 230 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,255 within the heart, there's a tiny little speck here. 231 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,175 You can see the area of white within the coronary artery. 232 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,575 That's the calcification there. 233 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,655 We will, however, get all these sent on to our radiologist, 234 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,175 who will put together a final report to send on to the coroner. 235 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:37,055 Police are en route to an address in Preston following an emergency call. 236 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,735 At about quarter to six this morning, 237 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,175 Lancashire Police receive a call from an address in Preston. 238 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,055 There is the body of a male, a shotgun 239 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,895 and several rounds of ammunition. 240 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,615 And the ca“ ended. 241 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,175 Given that very limited information, 242 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,655 armed response officers were deployed to the address. 243 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:17,175 And quite quickly, a white male was found deceased 244 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,655 in a rear outbuilding. 245 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,495 At this moment in time, the male remains in situ, 246 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,095 as does the firearm. 247 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,375 The first priority this morning is to ensure that firearm is safe, 248 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,255 to enable it to be removed. 249 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,375 It is quite shocking to receive that type of call. 250 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,215 I'm on duty cover today, I actually got the phone call at home, 251 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,015 and it does affect you a little bit. 252 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,215 He's a man of similar age to me. 253 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,455 The man has been transported to the mortuary at Royal Preston Hospital 254 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,775 and the case referred to the coroners' office. 255 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,775 RINGING 256 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,455 'Hello, Alice.' 257 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,815 I just want to run a case past you, if that's OK? 258 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,735 'Sure.' We received a referral 259 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,335 from the police with regards to a gentleman. 260 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:23,015 He'd contacted them yesterday with concerns for his welfare, 261 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,375 and when police have got there, 262 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,615 they found him deceased with a shotgun next to him. 263 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,615 I'm going to be processing it through for an external examination. 264 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,015 'If they can check for bruising on the back of the thumb, 265 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,295 'because when the shotgun kicks, there's usually bruising 266 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:38,615 'on one side of the thumb. 267 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,095 'So if they could check for that, 268 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:42,655 'it's a sign that he was using the shotgun himself.' 269 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,695 That's no problem. I'll process that through now for authorisation. 270 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,895 'Fine, OK.' Thank you very much. 271 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,255 The next stage now will be to open up an investigation, 272 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:00,575 where we'll start making inquiries with regards to the circumstances - 273 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,055 what's led to what's happened. 274 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,535 We'll speak to his family, 275 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,255 and we'll also contact the relevant agencies involved. 276 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,935 The family have agreed for his story to be told 277 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,895 but want him to remain anonymous. 278 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,135 His friend has agreed for his words to be read by an actor. 279 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,855 I had a message saying "call me" from his next door neighbour. 280 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,175 And then I said "OK, I'll come over." 281 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,495 And then I looked online very quickly 282 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:34,655 and I saw that the police had attended an incident of a shooting. 283 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,055 As soon as I got that message, I knew he had left us. 284 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,015 Police have discovered 285 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,855 the man was an army veteran with over 30 years' service. 286 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:58,095 I've just been to this address where this incident's taken place. 287 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,455 He was clearly very proud of serving in the armed forces. 288 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,935 He's got lots of memorabilia, 289 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,175 he's got replica firearms on his wall as ornaments. 290 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,975 He's got certificates from all over the world where he's served 291 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,775 and represented the country in the armed forces. 292 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,495 He was a great soldier, and he loved it. 293 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,375 He was military through and through. 294 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,095 He was in just about every war zone you could think of. 295 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:33,295 He was in Northern Ireland, he was in Bosnia, 296 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,015 he was in Afghanistan, he was in the Gulf War. 297 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,455 Everywhere there was something going on, he was there. 298 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,095 Whether you call it conflict or whether you call it war, 299 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:48,015 it was a tough place to be. 300 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,935 People lost friends and comrades, 301 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,415 and that caused him a lot of sleepless nights as a young soldier. 302 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,415 The police will be looking to see whether or not 303 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,495 this is someone acting alone... 304 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,215 ...or whether there are other people involved, 305 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,455 and in what way they might be involved. 306 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:32,215 NARRATOR: The coroner's office has been investigating the case 307 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:37,935 of 63-year-old Raymond Rahamatally, who was found deceased at home. 308 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,015 They've been able to examine his medical records. 309 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,335 Raymond Rahamatally has a past history 310 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:47,975 of a significant skin condition 311 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,855 which may or may not become infected. 312 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,215 He has some heart disease, 313 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,735 and he also has some fairly minor mental health issues. 314 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,775 But at the moment, 315 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,215 it's uncertain as to how any of these bear upon the cause of death. 316 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,255 Raymond also had a history of obsessive-compulsive disorder. 317 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,975 In his case, this led to excessive hand washing. 318 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,975 Raymond's had OCD for a long, long time, 319 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:24,215 certainly the washing of his hands, because his hands become quite sore, 320 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,615 because he used to wash them about 20, 30, 40 times a clay maybe. 321 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,295 About half an hour he'd spend in the toilet 322 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:31,735 continually washing his hands. 323 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,255 It was really bad, erm... 324 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,615 where his skin would become quite raw and split. 325 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,575 So he'd get a lot of lacerations, 326 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,455 just because the skin had been excessively washed. 327 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:48,095 So it was a compulsive disorder, for definite. 328 00:21:48,120 --> 00:21:51,455 Telling him to get it looked out or get treatment or, you know, 329 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,215 that he had an issue, it was just a non-starter. 330 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,855 It was completely off topic. 331 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,495 Mental health and physical health are interrelated. 332 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,495 So if you have got long-term conditions that affect your health, 333 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,895 you're quite likely to suffer from a mental health condition as well. 334 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:17,535 But equally, if you have got mental health issues such as depression, 335 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:22,255 the risk of diabetes, stroke or heart disease also rises. 336 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,095 So, these are interlinked, and how they affect different people 337 00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:30,535 depends upon the severity of their mental or physical health disease. 338 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,455 Yeah, it's just sad. 339 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,215 The idea that's how he's been found in that kind of manner on his own, 340 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,335 when he... 341 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:41,455 There could have been interventions or things that can be done 342 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,375 if he'd been more willing to accept the issues he had, really. 343 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,735 Fairly important that we find out. 344 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,535 There was multiple issues, 345 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,295 and to kind of get it clearly defined, 346 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,815 exactly what was the cause of him passing away, 347 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,535 that kind of provides some closure at least. 348 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,935 To help establish a cause of death, 349 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,855 Raymond's post-mortem CT scan is being assessed by a radiologist. 350 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,735 There's a history of heart disease, 351 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,335 and there is also marked skin problems involving his lower legs. 352 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:18,495 They were both oozing. 353 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,895 This is the skin, it's all ulcerated and thickened. 354 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,455 So, this would raise the possibility of an underlying septicaemia 355 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,735 following his skin condition in his legs 356 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,495 as being a possible cause of death. 357 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,735 Although we don't know whether he was septic beforehand, 358 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,695 we don't know if anybody's seen him, whether he was high temperature, 359 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,255 whether he was sweating, 360 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,735 whether showing signs of sepsis at all. 361 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,575 Now, the only other thing that we can see on the scan 362 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,375 is he does have some calcium in his coronary artery, 363 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,775 which could lead to a significant narrowing. It's only small. 364 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,375 But I note there is a family history of heart disease. 365 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,375 So the question here would be, 366 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:01,415 has he had a fatal cardiac event related to heart failure, 367 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:06,335 or has he died of septicaemia clue to his leg condition? 368 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:10,095 Ancl so, therefore, an invasive post-mortem 369 00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:11,855 might help to decide 370 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,775 which condition is more likely to have to have led to Raymond's death. 371 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,415 The coroner is also investigating the death of a military veteran 372 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,855 who was found deceased at home with fatal injuries. 373 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,455 You are looking for, has there been any disruption of the scene, 374 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,295 any alteration to the evidence? 375 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,935 You're also looking to see whether there is 376 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,615 any bruising on the thumb of the dominant hand. 377 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:49,695 It's the duty of the coroner's office 378 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,975 to update the man's next of kin on the next steps of his case. 379 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,135 I'm just calling to let you know that I've spoken with the coroner 380 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,415 and we're doing an external examination 381 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,855 to determine cause of death. 382 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,695 It should be clone in the next couple of clays. 383 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,575 So as soon as the coroner authorises the results 384 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,295 of the external examination, 385 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,575 we'll then be able to send the release paperwork through 386 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,895 to the funeral directors. 387 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,095 I'll be in touch. Bye-bye. 388 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,215 A pathologist has been asked to carry out 389 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,095 an external examination to prepare a report for the coroner. 390 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,135 We're not going to look at the internal organs. 391 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,455 We're just going to look at the outside of the body 392 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,815 to examine the wounds that he has. 393 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,615 And we've got a fit man. 394 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,815 He has DNR tattooed on his chest. 395 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,695 DNR meaning, I assume, 396 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,975 "do not resuscitate", so that's interesting. 397 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,175 Let's start at the bottom and just work our way up. 398 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,215 So, feet are good. 399 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,535 Legs. No marks or injuries. 400 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,935 Working my WaY UP- 401 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,455 We don't know if he's right or left-handed, 402 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,935 so we're going to assume that he's right. 403 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,855 But we're going to check the left thumb as well. 404 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,255 What I'm looking for now is bruising that may be around the thumb. 405 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,455 Neither of the thumbs has any injury to it. 406 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,575 So, we're working up to his head. 407 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,855 His head... We've got blood in the ears. 408 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,895 There's a 17cm laceration. 409 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,135 We've got fragmentation and an obvious cause of death. 410 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,535 The worst thing would be to think 411 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,455 that there's a family out there not getting the answers 412 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,815 to the questions they've got in their heads. 413 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,375 It is nice knowing that we are a part of the process 414 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,415 of the family then being able to grieve 415 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,375 once they've got the answers to their questions. 416 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,975 It is really sad. 417 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,575 It does make you realise how fragile life is. 418 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,135 Detective Inspector Steve Monk 419 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,375 is investigating the circumstances around the man's death. 420 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:18,575 It's very rare, certainly within my experience, 421 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,815 to deal with incidents where somebody has shot them self. 422 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,575 This is probably only my second or third in 26 years. 423 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,175 He's left a note to the police, 424 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,415 actually apologising for what they were gonna find, 425 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,735 and making reference that he struggled on Civvy Street 426 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,575 once he'd left the army. 427 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,575 He'd even taken his TVs off the wall and placed them in his conservatory. 428 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,295 He'd even sorted a funeral plan. 429 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,655 It would appear, at this stage, 430 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,575 to be a very tragic set of circumstances. 431 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,095 Former soldier Ray Howard 432 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:05,495 offers help to ex-service personnel who are struggling. 433 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,495 There's a link on there where you can find employment. 434 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,055 His support is based on his own experience. 435 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:18,455 I served 22 years in the army, a few years in Northern Ireland, 436 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,855 and I was also in the Gulf War, 437 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:26,095 which is where I contracted PTSD through active service. 438 00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:30,095 Incidents occurred that I don't really wish to remember, 439 00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:33,935 but I can't forget, which is what PTSD really is. 440 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:39,095 PTSD will manifest itself in different ways in different people. 441 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,015 You'll be angry. 442 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,415 You can sometimes think you're looking at yourself from above, 443 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,175 thinking, "Why am I doing this, why am I doing that?" 444 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,855 Ancl you've got no reason, no answer for it. 445 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,015 The military veteran is being collected from the mortuary 446 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,655 for his funeral. 447 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,615 In my mind, it was when he got back from Bosnia. 448 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,415 You look out for signs anyway, 449 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,095 but it was when I said to him, "How was Bosnia?" 450 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,775 And he said, "Oh, yeah, it didn't affect me." 451 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,095 And I saw his hand shaking a little bit. 452 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,615 I knew straightaway something had happened. 453 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,655 I'm not sure that he was ever diagnosed with PTSD from a doctor, 454 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,415 but I think that you could see that there was something not right. 455 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,455 He couldn't adapt to society, he couldn't find that balance. 456 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,175 So I think it was adapting to society that was destroying him. 457 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,535 The coroner has received the pathologist's report 458 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,455 from the post-mortem examination of the former soldier. 459 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,455 From Dr Shepherd's findings, 460 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,335 it appears that the gentleman was acting alone, 461 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:04,055 that this is an unnatural death, and this will proceed to an inquest. 462 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,295 It's just a very, very sad... a sad story, really. 463 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,135 Ancl one of the turning points in his life 464 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,895 was his dog very sadly passed away the back end of last year, 465 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,095 and he said he just couldn't cope without his dog. 466 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,575 At the forefront 467 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,095 of all the armed forces memorabilia on his wall, 468 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,335 in prime position, is what I would describe as a dog collar. 469 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,975 MALE FRIEND: He would say to me that the only reason he's alive 470 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,375 is because of his dog. 471 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,655 He phoned me in 2023 because his dog had died. 472 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,975 He was grieving like you would if you lost your own child. 473 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,215 In a letter he sent me, 474 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,415 he actually said that he hadn't expected his dog to die so soon. 475 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,335 I don't think there was anything I could have done. 476 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,335 The coroner has also been investigating 477 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,975 the death of 63-year-old Raymond Rahamatally, 478 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,495 who lived alone and hadn't been seen by his family 479 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,255 for nearly three weeks. 480 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,855 How old was he there? He'd been 18, I'd have thought. 481 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,935 I think in that one he's about, ooh, 17-ish. 482 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,335 He was very much into rock and roll. That was the look, at the time. 483 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,375 The Freddie Mercury era, and Queen, 484 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,135 and all the other rock groups that were around at the time. 485 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,935 He grew his hair, so he looked very similar 486 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,535 to some of the guys in the... Oh, the rockers, yeah. 487 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,255 ...in the rock band as well. Often, he just wouldn't let us in. 488 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,815 So it wasn't even like there'd be an invite into the flat. 489 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,295 It was just kind of we'd be at the door, say, 490 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,975 "Hi, how are you doing?" He wouldn't say, "Oh, come in." 491 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,895 You couldn't, anyway. It was a bit of a state. 492 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,815 It was literally like, "ls there anything we can do for you?" 493 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,535 "No, no. I'm all right." Ancl that was it. 494 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,615 If someone is refusing help 495 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,375 or doesn't believe there's anything wrong with them, 496 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,335 is it perhaps the right thing to do to force help on them? 497 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,975 It's a very difficult one. Very difficult. 498 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:18,295 There are a range of reasons why people do not accept help. 499 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,135 It may be that that is the make-up of their personality, 500 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,135 it may be that they have a mental health condition 501 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,935 that prevents them engaging with it. 502 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:34,455 Others, it may be ignorance of the availability of health care. 503 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,455 These cases are very sad 504 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:43,095 because despite however much people love this person, 505 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,095 they will not accept the help that's offered to them, 506 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,175 even though it seems obvious to everybody around them 507 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,455 that they absolutely need this assistance. 508 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,895 Raymond was reclusive, 509 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,135 and neighbours raised concerns for his welfare. 510 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,855 With no clear cause of death revealed by his post-mortem CT scan, 511 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,495 the coroner has asked for a limited invasive post-mortem. 512 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,415 My question is, can I find anything 513 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,335 that will advance the information that we've got from the CT autopsy 514 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,455 and provide a more substantive cause of death 515 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,735 and also exclude the coroner's concerns 516 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,775 in terms of neglect or sepsis? 517 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,935 165cm, weight 66kg. 518 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,775 There are no signs of trauma or violence. Stop. 519 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,455 Ancl this gentleman has obviously quite a severe skin infection. 520 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,415 It's very difficult where the skin is constantly cracking, 521 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,815 and those cracks are a perfect portal for bacteria. 522 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,415 Ancl it's entirely possible that infections from his skin 523 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,015 will have travelled through his blood 524 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,655 and may have set up an abscess somewhere else in his body 525 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,375 which may have contributed to his confusion. 526 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,695 So, at the moment, there's no sign of any pus collections 527 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,135 in the chest or the abdomen. 528 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,215 So, the CT scan is showing that there was some calcification 529 00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:14,575 in the coronary arteries, the heart - 530 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,935 that's the blood vessels which supply the heart - 531 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,895 but it doesn't give you the same view as you as you get 532 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,175 if you're actually holding the heart and dissecting out 533 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,535 the coronary arteries. 534 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,455 So I'm gonna check that now. 535 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,895 I can see the calcification, which was noted at the CT scan. 536 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,775 There's quite a significant narrowing of the coronary artery, 537 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,855 probably about 80%. 538 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,255 Blood would find it probably difficult to go past that, 539 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,135 and that could be the cause of death. 540 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,015 One of the major functions of doing an autopsy is helping relatives. 541 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,735 What we can do is help the families with answering questions. 542 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,815 We can help the families with perhaps genetic diseases. 543 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,215 If we find a case of unexplained death 544 00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:56,535 which we suspect might be clue to cardiac problems, 545 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,895 then we will chase that down 546 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,415 and make sure that the relatives are screened. 547 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,735 It's very important that we provide as much information 548 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,415 in an understandable format to the families as we can. 549 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,255 It is important that we find out. 550 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,455 If it's anything that is hereditary, 551 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,055 obviously with the heart disease from my grandma's side, 552 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,135 or if it was purely a skin condition 553 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,975 that kind of got to a point where he'd let that go so badly, 554 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,015 then that was the main cause of him passing away, really. 555 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,655 We have some samples for toxicology. 556 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:31,935 I'd just like to check those 557 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,415 to find out whether he was taking any pain medication 558 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,535 or any other over-the-counter prescriptions. 559 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,015 His obvious problems with his legs were not being addressed, 560 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,375 they weren't surgically dressed. 561 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,775 Ancl he may well have had a low level of sepsis, 562 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,535 which would have challenged him physiologically. 563 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,415 So, I'm just balancing those up at the moment in my head 564 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,295 and just trying to think about what the best way of formulating this is. 565 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,735 Before Professor Dawson can produce a final report 566 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,735 for the coroner to help provide the family with answers, 567 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,175 he will need the results of the toxicology testing. 568 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,015 Professor Dawson, having clone the post-mortem, 569 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,855 says that he has never seen the like of this gentleman's skin complaint. 570 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,615 It's extremely serious, 571 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,655 it's very septic, it's very infected, 572 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,455 and he has said that he possibly would have been confused. 573 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,415 Now, the difficulty we have 574 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,375 is that he could also have been taking over-the-counter medication 575 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,295 that added to his confusion. 576 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,535 Because there's a concern here as to why, 577 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:45,135 given the severity of the infection of his legs, he didn't seek help. 578 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,495 So toxicology's necessary 579 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,335 to see if there was anything else in his system 580 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,535 that was affecting the state of his mind. 581 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,695 It's the day of the military veteran's inquest. 582 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,895 So, we've received a statement from the Ministry of Defence. 583 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,255 That was following an email that I'd sent to them 584 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,615 requesting for his records. 585 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,255 So, what they've said 586 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,575 is that he served with the army for 34 years. 587 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,455 His performance was nothing short than exemplary. 588 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,015 He was awarded various medals and awards, 589 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,095 he was a seasoned all-rounder 590 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,695 who had traits of an old solider who digs in and makes things happen. 591 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:49,215 WOMAN: All rise. 592 00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,295 Can I just say how sorry I am that you're attending court this morning 593 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,895 under these circumstances? 594 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,535 The major finding was the injury caused by the discharge of a gun 595 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,935 that clearly caused an immediately fatal injury. 596 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,535 I couldn't find any evidence of any injury elsewhere on the body, 597 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,975 and there was no injury to suggest that anyone else had been involved. 598 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,215 The evidence that he intended to take his own life 599 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:29,975 included contacting the police, the letters that he left, 600 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,375 and the positioning and the use of the shotgun. 601 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,055 This is a tragic death of a solider 602 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,415 who obviously had a very distinguished army career 603 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:45,495 and, after leaving, had difficulty adjusting to civilian life. 604 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,295 The cause of death in this case is that of a shotgun wound. 605 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,575 Maybe something can be done in service before somebody leaves 606 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,335 so there's better training, I suppose, 607 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,735 for the outside world to understand, to a certain extent, 608 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,175 the characteristics of soldiers and what they're doing. 609 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,975 Leaving one disciplined service, 610 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,575 coming out into a world which is completely different 611 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:16,815 to what they've known. 612 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,415 And I think if people could just understand, 613 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,695 then they might start to look at people like him 614 00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:24,375 and say, "Right, what can we do?" 615 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,575 Latest figures show there were more than 250 suicides 616 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,455 amongst UK armed forces veterans in just one year. 617 00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:40,855 Ray Howard founded the Facebook site 618 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,215 Suicides Amongst Veterans Everywhere. 619 00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:46,495 We have 1.2K members. 620 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,095 95% of those are veterans. 621 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,455 The rest are families of, or friends. 622 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,655 We have a chat line on here, it's open 24 hours. 623 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,655 Ancl if somebody calls, I'll speak to them until they're happy. 624 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,335 It could be five minutes, could be four hours. 625 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,175 If it helps one person from harming them self 626 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,695 or gets them out of a depression, then that's job clone. 627 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:10,895 That's all we're here for. 628 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:24,015 Before his death, the former soldier had organised his own funeral. 629 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,295 MALE FRIEND: I was grateful in my life to have him as my friend. 630 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,415 He was the kindest person you'd ever wanna meet. 631 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,375 And he said thank you in his letter to me for being his friend, 632 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,095 and that meant a lot. 633 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,775 He might have left in the physical sense, 634 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,055 but he's very much alive in my mind. 635 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,495 And he will be, you know, forever. 636 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,935 The coroner has also been investigating the death 637 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,535 of 63-year-old Raymond Rahamatally. 638 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,655 Toxicology's been returned, 639 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,095 and although it has detected some substances, 640 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,495 none of them would have caused sedation or confusion. 641 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:23,055 So that does not form any further part of our investigations. 642 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,415 So the cause of death is the cardiac disease, 643 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,775 the narrowing of the coronary arteries, 644 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,935 and severe ichthyosis in the lower leg, 645 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,735 which is a drying and cracking of the skin 646 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,695 that allows infection in, 647 00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:47,735 causing sepsis that is sufficient to have caused confusion. 648 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,455 So this gentleman may not have understood the significance 649 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,815 of the illness that was facing him 650 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,695 and may not have sought help in his final clays, 651 00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:02,495 because of this infection clouding his judgement. 652 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,375 Hi, Selima, it's Alice Swarbrick, coroners' officer. 653 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,975 So, we've got the post-mortem report back for Raymond, 654 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,375 and the cause of death that's come back is coronary artery disease 655 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:37,055 and severe septic lower leg ichthyosis, untreated. 656 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,335 So that's the condition he had in his lower legs. 657 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,535 UK? 658 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,535 But what the coroner has asked me to talk to you about 659 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,855 is that family maybe seek some medical advice 660 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,095 to get an assessment 661 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,935 to see whether there's any hereditary 662 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,135 or genetic related disease. 663 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,655 OK? So, that is a... 664 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,495 a natural cause of death now, that's going to be signed off. 665 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,855 There's no more involvement for the coroner. 666 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,935 So you can now make an appointment with the registrars 667 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,255 so you can get that final death certificate. 668 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,895 Thank you. Take care. 669 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,615 Bye-bye. 670 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,215 When I did hear that Raymond had passed, 671 00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:30,855 I thought, "Well, at least he's not got any problems now." 672 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,575 The main thing that I thought was, "Well, at least now he's with Dad." 673 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,535 Because my father always wanted him to be looked after. 674 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,295 Ancl I do believe that life continues. 675 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,495 There is far, far more for us all, for everybody, 676 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,935 whether people believe or not. This isn't the end. 677 00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:27,535 A section on the outside of the left ear has been removed. 678 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,135 We need to sort out what the sequence of events are, 679 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,095 because at the moment, we don't know what's happened. 680 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,215 She was such a young person. 681 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:39,895 It's really hard knowing that she's not here anymore. 682 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,895 This is one that I've never dealt with before 683 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,575 and I hope I don't have to again.