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[crows cawing]
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[man] Larry was a very
shy kid.
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Very eager to please.
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Exceedingly respectful
and soft-spoken.
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And seemingly gentle.
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Oh, he wouldn't hurt a flea.
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But there was this...
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duality to him.
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Something we would call
"Jekyll and Hyde."
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Something we would call
"Jekyll and Hyde."
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He really lived to kill.
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[muffled screaming]
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[tires screech]
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[theme music playing]
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Welcome to Very Scary People.
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I'm Donny Wahlberg.
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Like a wild animal
hunting for easy prey,
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he stalked young girls
and women he caught alone.
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Walking, running, bicycling.
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There was no escape
from this predator.
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Once in the grip
of his horrifying urge
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to rape and kill
he ended defenseless lives
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that had hardly begun.
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It seemed like
that he might never be caught.
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Could the mystery man
investigators finally took
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Could the mystery man
investigators finally took
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into custody be the killer?
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Or was he nothing more than
a troubled wannabe
serial killer,
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making false confessions.
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This is part one
of "The Twin."
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[reporter] Tricia Reitler
took a walk off campus
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[reporter] Tricia Reitler
took a walk off campus
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and never came back to Indiana
Wesleyan University.
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Some of her clothing was found
with a small amount of blood.
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Investigators believe
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Reitler was abducted.
But by whom, where and why?
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Police have no hard evidence
to say.
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[Casey] On March 29th, 1993,
Tricia Reitler,
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a 19-year-old college freshman
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at Indiana Wesleyan University
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took a break from writing
her term paper.
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[Joni] She decided to walk
a few blocks down
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to a Marsh store to get
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to a Marsh store to get
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a root beer
and to get a magazine.
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[Casey] But on the way home,
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something happened.
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[Joni] All of a sudden,
she vanishes.
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And nobody knows where she is.
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[telephone rings]
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The phone rang at about 12:30
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just after midnight.
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And it was the Marion
Police department.
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And it was the Marion
Police department.
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And the first question
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she asked was,
"Do you know where Tricia is?"
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At that moment, my heart sunk.
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[Donna] We knew that something
was really wrong.
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It was like a punch
in the gut.
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[Tim] It was horrible.
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Horrible. It's a parent's
worst nightmare.
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[Belinda]
I was legitimately panicking.
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We were roommates,
Tricia and I,
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our freshman year.
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That weekend
before Tricia's disappearance.
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I found out from my
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friends that she
was being stalked.
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And I started asking her
about it.
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She had said that,
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on the day that she ran,
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he would start following her
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at a certain, like,
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road or intersection.
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And then he would
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follow her a little ways
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behind while she was running,
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and then he would turn off,
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and then he would turn off,
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and go a separate way.
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Who was this person?
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Where was this van?
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[Joni] A predatory stalker
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is the rarest kind of stalker.
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It's also the most dangerous.
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Because they often
target strangers.
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They often don't give
much warning.
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This is somebody
who is finding
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a lot of pleasure
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a lot of pleasure
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out of the process,
and a lot of interest
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in picking out girls.
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We have a window
to what he is thinking about
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by what he's journaled.
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[Hillel] "Take buck knife.
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Gloves.
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Mask.
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Take a lot of clothes,
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blankets to keep her
out of sight.
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No body contact.
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Buy condoms.
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No forensic residue.
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No forensic residue.
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Check colleges,
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parks.
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Teen joggers and bikers.
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Many alone.
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Get one. Find one.
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Find one now."
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When police retraced
Tricia Reitler's steps
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it became pretty apparent
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that she was the subject
of a violent attack.
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[Tim] I go out
to check that area,
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[Tim] I go out
to check that area,
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and I see some things
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that appear to be
a crime scene.
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[Hillel] Her clothes
were found under a tree
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with the blood on it.
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And later, they also found
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an earring that had been
torn out of her ear.
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[Tim] The crime scene proves
two things.
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That she had been abducted,
and that
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a sexual assault occurred.
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[Casey] The perpetrator,
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he is someone
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who gets their eye
on the prize and decides,
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"I've been fantasizing about
this for so very, very long.
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Today is the day,
this is the time,
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I'm about to make it happen."
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[reporter] Tricia Reitler,
seen here on home video
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purchased a soft drink
at a Marsh supermarket.
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And passively walking along
this Marion street,
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towards her college dormitory,
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was confronted and abducted.
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[Donna] Tricia went to Indiana
Wesleyan University.
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She was funny.
She was outgoing.
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She was athletic.
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[Garry] Daddy's little girl.
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We had a special relationship.
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We had a special relationship.
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Tricia wanted to be
a psychologist.
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And basically, she wanted
to put families back
together again.
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[Belinda]
She was always smiling.
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That's the one thing that
I seriously miss about her.
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[copier whirring]
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[reporter] And exhaustive
investigations has produced
few clues,
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except the recovery of some
blood-stained clothes.
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[Michael] They organized huge
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sweeps of the area looking for
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any kind of clues.
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any kind of clues.
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The college is in a very
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rural area.
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[Garry] All you see is,
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-cornfields...
-[Donna] Yeah.
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...and soybean fields,
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and trees.
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[Michael] There was just
so many
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places where she could be.
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They were searching
everywhere and,
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they never found anything.
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[Donna] It was uh, I call it
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the zombie state.
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You could barely function
but you knew you had to.
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[Hillel] "Seen many
nice girls,
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at Marsh's.
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at Marsh's.
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Lots of walkers at 7:15.
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Walking to apartments
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in 44/43.
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Must be housing
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for the university.
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Seen some prospects.
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Look at maps.
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Get the van ready."
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[Joni] Tricia Reitler
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was walking home alone.
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I think the tragedy is,
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I think the tragedy is,
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she was in the wrong place
at the wrong time.
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[Hillel] That place
that he had pre-determined
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would be the best place
to cease someone.
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Fields where
there was no one nearby,
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where there was no lighting,
and we can only speculate
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at that point,
he pulled up his van.
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[John] Police had started
with nothing.
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The have some
physical evidence.
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They don't have a body.
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They don't have a body.
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So what they begin
is with a wide net.
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Who fits the bill for this?
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Who has a criminal past
or a connection to the victim?
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[reporter] Police do have
a suspect in Tricia Reitler's
disappearance.
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A man who has been questioned
several times by police,
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but never identified.
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[Tim] Tony Searcy.
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He had been involved in some
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felony thefts.
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[Joey] And they found
the connection
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between him and Tricia Reitler
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through a dining hall
where she worked.
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[Tim] Tony Searcy was dating
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[Tim] Tony Searcy was dating
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a girl that worked
in the cafeteria.
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[Joey] The very night
of Tricia Reitler's
disappearance,
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Tony Searcy made a 9-1-1 call
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in which he was reporting
a rival thief.
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Police believed
that he was pointing
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the finger at someone else
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to avoid detection
in the disappearance
of Tricia Reitler.
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We bring him in.
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They thought he was trying
to come up with an alibi,
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uh, throw the police
off their investigation
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with this bogus claim.
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[Tim] He felt like,
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he could do something
like that, so,
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[Michael] They asked him
to take a lie detector test.
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He took it, and he failed.
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[Tim] So that's when we called
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the FBI, and had
a second polygraph.
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Flunks that polygraph.
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He became
a person of interest.
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And they decide
to search Tom's car.
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Police had cadaver dogs
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sniff around his vehicle.
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[dogs sniffing]
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Lo and behold,
the cadaver dogs hit...
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on Tony Searcy's trunk.
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[Hillel] "Replace rear carpet
in van.
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Cut out stained carpet.
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Vacuum van thoroughly.
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Spray down chemicals.
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Wiped with Armor All.
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Burn paint and tarps.
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Buy new hacksaw blades.
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Clean all tools
with denatured alcohol.
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Clean all tools
with denatured alcohol.
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Take tires off,
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and clean mud
from under fenders.
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[Joni] His eliminating
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forensic evidence
that might be there.
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This is somebody who is
looking for future victims.
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And reminding himself
of cleaning up old ones.
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Clean up is about
self-preservation.
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And it's so that the offender
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can continue on
with his crimes.
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[Casey] Tony Searcy
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is on the record and saying,
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"I've done a lot of bad stuff
in my life
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but I didn't kill this woman."
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As part of the investigation,
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of Tony Searcy
for the disappearance
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of Tricia Reitler,
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police had cadaver dogs
sniff around
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his vehicle.
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Lo and behold,
the cadaver dogs hit
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on Tony Searcy's trunk.
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[Donna] Your emotions are so,
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twisted. You feel guilty
for being excited
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twisted. You feel guilty
for being excited
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that we may have found
her scent, you know.
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[Casey] The problem is that,
in criminology,
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Tony Searcy has no history
of violence.
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And even though it's possible
that he's good for it,
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the truth is that,
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he doesn't have
that long record of fantasy
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that would actually graduate
to an abduction,
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a stalking, a kill, a rape.
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He's just a copper thief.
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[Joey] Cadaver dogs
are trained
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to alert to enzymes in humans
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that mimic
the smell of copper.
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that mimic
the smell of copper.
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And the problem was,
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that if Tony Searcy
is a copper thief,
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he certainly would have copper
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in the back of his trunk
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that would have
these cadaver dogs
alerting to it.
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[Hillel] It's why the police
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became so suspicious of him.
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[Tim] Oh, I definitely
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thought he was
the prime suspect.
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[chains jangling]
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Tony was arrested
about four weeks after
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Tricia went missing.
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But he was only charged
with copper theft.
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Because that's all
they could prove.
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[Tim] Tony Searcy
was never charged
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with any crime related to
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the abduction
of Tricia Reitler.
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Just to bring her home.
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[voice breaking]
That's all we want.
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[Donna] Somebody has that
one bit of information
that we need.
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And put an end
to the nightmare
that we're living.
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[cannon roars]
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[gun firing]
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[Michael] The first time I met
Larry Hall
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was a Civil War reenactment
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in Rochester, Indiana.
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Then Gary, a few months later.
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Then Gary, a few months later.
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[Hillel] Larry and Gary
were identical twins.
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They very much got into
Civil War reenactment.
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[cannon roars]
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[Hillel]
They were so authentic,
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that they were recruited
to attend, uh, and be extras
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in the filming
of two Civil War movies.
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One was Glory,
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and the other was Gettysburg.
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Now, ultimately,
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Now, ultimately,
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the only one of the twins
you can see
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is just a glimpse of Gary
in Gettysburg.
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[upbeat music playing]
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I noticed, Larry was more
of a follower in a way.
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He wasn't fastest in speaking,
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had to stop and think
for a few moments.
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He was very easy
to approach to talk to,
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but he would never
open up the conversation.
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I felt that
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Gary was more dominating
over Larry.
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With a lot of the reenactments
and with the movies,
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it often meant a road trip.
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They're travelling in places
all around the country.
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[Michael] There was that
brother camaraderie
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in their travel
to reenactments.
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There was one instance,
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in the van, that really
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in the van, that really
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sticks in my mind.
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Larry and Gary
were sitting up front.
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I was in the back seat and,
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Gary reaches down
underneath him,
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and pulled out
a pair of woman's underpants.
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He looked
at his brother Larry,
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and said,
"What's this doing here?"
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I just thought at that time,
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it was just
joke on each other.
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Larry shrugged off,
and kind of played it back,
about,
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Larry shrugged off,
and kind of played it back,
about,
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"You're married.
You have a wife.
You planted it there."
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Looking back,
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it is very disturbing
to think about.
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It all adds up.
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[Hillel] Larry and Gary Hall.
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Their upbringing
was kind of strange,
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in that their father
was actually the grave digger
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in that their father
was actually the grave digger
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at this historic
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tiny, little cemetery
on a hill.
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And part of the benefits
of that job,
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is that they lived in this
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big clapboard house
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overlooking the cemetery
on one side.
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[Ron] I'm sure their peers
would have thought
it was creepy,
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I do believe that
one time I heard the house,
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inside was rather messy.
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[Hillel] One of their friends
said it was like,
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"Living inside
of a rummage sale."
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[Casey] The parents
were hoarders.
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There was stuff piled
to the ceiling in every room.
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The fact that they lived
in a hellhole of a house,
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probably, had a huge impact
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on their development
growing up,
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and the way they perceive
the outside world.
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[Hillel] Their father Robert,
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always had kind of the smell
of beer on his breath.
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The boys were actually
terrified of him.
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00:17:04,667 --> 00:17:08,000
The relationship
that Larry had
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with his mother was,
some would say, smothering.
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with his mother was,
some would say, smothering.
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The mother's smothering
affection for the son
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gets in the way of him having
a normal relationship
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with a female.
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And that was definitely,
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a part of Larry's problem.
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He has a very
unusual relationship
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toward my mother.
And to this day,
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he'll talk to Mom almost
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as if she's his girlfriend
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as if she's his girlfriend
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rather than his mother.
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It's spooky. It's creepy.
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[Joey] Eight months after
Tricia's disappearance,
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a farmer in Indiana would make
a grisly discovery.
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[crows cawing]
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[machinery whirring]
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[Michael]
In November 8th, 1993,
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a farmer
in Perrysville, Indiana
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was working
this huge cornfield
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with his combine,
when he spotted
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something unusual.
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00:18:09,847 --> 00:18:10,767
something unusual.
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As he was cutting
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through one of the rows
of corn,
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he looked down
from his tractor,
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and saw a dark object.
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He got down to see
what it was.
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Maybe at first thought,
it was an animal.
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00:18:30,100 --> 00:18:31,367
Then to his horror,
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00:18:32,266 --> 00:18:35,000
saw it was in fact a body.
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[John] So he calls police.
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00:18:38,867 --> 00:18:39,847
The first thig
police believe is,
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The first thig
police believe is,
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this could be Reitler.
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The autopsy revealed
that, uh, she had
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a broken jaw.
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[Casey] Forensic investigators
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concluded that she most likely
died of strangulation.
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[Hillel] Given the amount
of decomposition,
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the challenge was
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identifying the body.
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Welcome back
to Very Scary People.
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After a college co-ed
is snatched off campus
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in a bloody ambush,
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00:19:21,266 --> 00:19:23,467
and the body of a girl
is found callously dumped
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in a cornfield,
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00:19:24,967 --> 00:19:28,567
fear is spreading
that there is a serial killer
on the loose.
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00:19:28,567 --> 00:19:30,700
Detectives are closing in
on a person of interest,
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00:19:30,767 --> 00:19:32,300
who raised suspicions.
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00:19:32,367 --> 00:19:34,900
But there are also serious
doubts he actually did it.
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00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,300
Did police get the right guy?
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00:19:40,467 --> 00:19:43,266
[man] "I feel a calling
from deep inside.
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00:19:43,266 --> 00:19:45,100
Sometimes so strong
that it's hard to hide.
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Take buck knife.
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00:19:49,567 --> 00:19:51,467
Gloves, mask,
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00:19:51,467 --> 00:19:52,467
two new plates.
427
00:19:53,266 --> 00:19:55,000
Buy two more leather belts.
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00:19:56,266 --> 00:19:58,000
Seeing several
singles walking.
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00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,266
Teenage, close to country.
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00:20:01,967 --> 00:20:03,266
Find them now."
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00:20:14,667 --> 00:20:15,767
[Loren] In the early '90s,
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we actually lived outside
of Georgetown, Illinois.
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00:20:18,867 --> 00:20:20,867
Probably about
eight miles or so,
out in the country.
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00:20:21,967 --> 00:20:24,000
Most people knew each other
and were friendly.
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00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:26,800
People didn't even lock
their doors.
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00:20:29,500 --> 00:20:33,667
[mother] Jessie, she was
really a good kid. Very shy
most of the time.
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00:20:33,667 --> 00:20:36,100
We had a lot of pictures of
the back of her head
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00:20:36,100 --> 00:20:38,522
because she just didn't want
her picture taken that often.
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00:20:38,522 --> 00:20:38,900
because she just didn't want
her picture taken that often.
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00:20:40,900 --> 00:20:42,767
She wanted to be a pilot.
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00:20:42,767 --> 00:20:45,100
She wanted to fly jets.
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00:20:45,100 --> 00:20:47,367
Which I thought was
so unusual.
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00:20:47,367 --> 00:20:50,266
She was always smiling
or laughing.
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00:20:50,266 --> 00:20:51,867
That's the stuff you love.
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00:20:55,900 --> 00:20:58,767
September 20, 1993
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was a Monday.
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00:21:02,100 --> 00:21:05,367
[Casey] 15 year-old Jessica
Roach was out riding her
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00:21:05,367 --> 00:21:08,522
prized mountain bike along
a rural road.
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00:21:08,522 --> 00:21:08,700
prized mountain bike along
a rural road.
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00:21:08,767 --> 00:21:15,000
[John] And her sister decides
she's going to go into town
and drives by.
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00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,700
Sees her sister walking
the bike on the road.
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00:21:17,767 --> 00:21:21,367
[Myndi] It's a normal sunny
day. She pulled off.
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00:21:21,367 --> 00:21:25,800
Stood there, watched me drive
by. Waved real smiley
and waved.
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And I looked in the rearview
mirror and she was walking
her bicycle.
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00:21:29,166 --> 00:21:33,166
And then I stopped at the sign
and turned the corner.
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00:21:35,767 --> 00:21:38,367
That was the last time I saw
Jessica.
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00:21:41,166 --> 00:21:44,000
When I came home, her bicycle
was lying in the middle of
the road.
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00:21:44,900 --> 00:21:48,000
Jessica is missing. No one can
find her.
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[Loren] She was gone.
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00:21:51,300 --> 00:21:53,667
My husband called and he says,
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one of our daughters
is missing.
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00:21:55,867 --> 00:21:59,600
I remember just getting
real quiet.
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00:21:59,667 --> 00:22:03,100
And feeling just kinda cold.
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00:22:03,166 --> 00:22:06,400
I immediately knew something
serious had happened.
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00:22:08,767 --> 00:22:10,266
-Here?
-Yeah.
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00:22:12,266 --> 00:22:13,767
There's something not right
here.
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00:22:13,767 --> 00:22:15,767
We don't have just
a missing person.
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00:22:15,767 --> 00:22:16,967
There was foul play.
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00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,367
The search went on for three
days.
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00:22:23,367 --> 00:22:26,400
[Terry] With each day that
passed, there was less and
less hope.
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[sobbing]
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[Loren] I can tell you that
that third day,
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I knew she wasn't coming home.
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To me, she's a sweetheart.
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00:22:35,767 --> 00:22:38,166
But what can I say?
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00:22:38,667 --> 00:22:40,367
I'm her grandpa.
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00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:48,100
[Gary] We knew of people in
the area that we thought would
be capable of
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00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:50,100
sexual assaults and things
like that.
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00:22:50,166 --> 00:22:53,400
But as far as an actual
kidnapping,
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we had not experienced that in
this county to my knowledge.
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00:23:06,066 --> 00:23:08,522
[Loren] To me, it was almost
like a random thing.
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00:23:08,522 --> 00:23:08,867
[Loren] To me, it was almost
like a random thing.
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00:23:08,867 --> 00:23:11,367
This man was in town
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00:23:12,467 --> 00:23:14,667
and probably scoping out
the school.
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00:23:14,667 --> 00:23:17,900
Jessie was a type that
he liked.
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00:23:17,967 --> 00:23:20,467
And I feel like he followed
her home from school.
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00:23:23,567 --> 00:23:27,400
We basically had no leads
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00:23:27,467 --> 00:23:31,500
and that continued on for
several weeks.
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[reporter] This week, a body
was found in a farmer's
cornfield.
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Two months later, across the
state lines in Indiana,
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00:23:38,522 --> 00:23:42,000
Two months later, across the
state lines in Indiana,
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a local farmer is simply
ploughing his cornfields
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00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:49,266
when he sees from the top of
his tractor, something dark.
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00:23:49,266 --> 00:23:52,800
He is absolutely horrified
to discover a dead body.
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00:23:56,300 --> 00:24:01,400
[reporter] Police in Indiana
say the body found may be
that of Tricia Riddler of Ohio
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00:24:01,467 --> 00:24:05,000
who went to Indiana Wesleyan
University in Marion.
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00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,200
Everyone including the family
thought, okay, this could be
her because
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00:24:08,266 --> 00:24:08,522
it was the right area. It was
a young woman.
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00:24:08,522 --> 00:24:12,567
it was the right area. It was
a young woman.
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00:24:12,567 --> 00:24:16,367
[reporter 2] On the day we
visited, the got one of many
calls from Marion Police,
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00:24:16,367 --> 00:24:20,000
alerting them another body has
been found in rural Indiana.
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00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,266
It's not Tricia.
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00:24:21,266 --> 00:24:24,200
But it is another emotional
reminder.
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00:24:24,266 --> 00:24:28,367
That feeling of that loss and
not being able to...
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00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:30,700
bring her home.
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00:24:34,467 --> 00:24:37,567
[Gary] They positively ID'd
the fingerprints
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00:24:37,567 --> 00:24:38,522
as being those of Jessica
Roach.
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00:24:38,522 --> 00:24:40,867
as being those of Jessica
Roach.
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00:24:40,867 --> 00:24:44,767
[Myndi] As much as we didn't
want it to be her, at the same
time, I did.
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00:24:44,767 --> 00:24:48,567
So we could say our goodbyes
and that was closure
511
00:24:48,567 --> 00:24:52,767
for me, knowing that we found
her and she's not suffering.
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00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:55,867
We at least knew where
she was now.
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00:24:58,100 --> 00:25:01,166
[Gary] Cause of death was
the strangulation.
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00:25:01,166 --> 00:25:05,567
The body had nothing that
would help us identify
an individual
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00:25:06,166 --> 00:25:07,300
that had been involved.
516
00:25:07,367 --> 00:25:08,522
It could be a drifter from
a million miles away,
517
00:25:08,522 --> 00:25:10,967
It could be a drifter from
a million miles away,
518
00:25:10,967 --> 00:25:14,200
who covers a lot of miles
doing things like this.
519
00:25:14,266 --> 00:25:17,467
That offender is
a real challenge.
520
00:25:17,467 --> 00:25:21,700
[Hillel] Clearly with Jessica
Roach, it was very impulsive.
521
00:25:21,767 --> 00:25:25,800
He saw this girl in what
seemed like the middle of
nowhere.
522
00:25:25,867 --> 00:25:28,367
She looked extremely
vulnerable.
523
00:25:28,367 --> 00:25:31,567
He decided to take advantage
of that.
524
00:25:31,567 --> 00:25:36,066
[Gary] The fact that their
girl was basically taken off
of her bike.
525
00:25:36,066 --> 00:25:38,522
The body was left in
a cornfield.
526
00:25:38,522 --> 00:25:39,100
The body was left in
a cornfield.
527
00:25:39,166 --> 00:25:41,367
It's just such a desolate
area.
528
00:25:41,367 --> 00:25:43,800
That had me completely
stumped.
529
00:25:47,900 --> 00:25:51,000
And suddenly, there's
a potential clue.
530
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,066
There's a witness who sees
a distinctive-looking stranger
531
00:25:55,066 --> 00:25:57,500
walking out of a cornfield.
532
00:25:57,567 --> 00:26:01,867
Right around the time when
Jessica Roach went off
the radar screens.
533
00:26:01,867 --> 00:26:05,166
What I recall seeing was a man
coming out of the cornfield.
534
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,000
He had a stocky build,
535
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:08,522
a rounded face,
an obvious chin.
536
00:26:08,522 --> 00:26:11,600
a rounded face,
an obvious chin.
537
00:26:11,667 --> 00:26:17,367
This would've been the same
timeframe when we believe the
body was put in the cornfield.
538
00:26:17,867 --> 00:26:19,533
Late at night.
539
00:26:39,667 --> 00:26:43,667
[Kaylen] 13 year-olds should
not have to worry about being
kidnapped.
540
00:26:44,967 --> 00:26:46,166
Our doors were never locked.
541
00:26:46,166 --> 00:26:50,367
You know, it just changes life
as we knew it.
542
00:26:50,367 --> 00:26:51,467
We were terrified.
543
00:26:53,266 --> 00:26:57,266
[John] In May of 1994,
a spring day,
544
00:26:57,266 --> 00:26:58,086
two teenage girls riding
their bike
545
00:26:58,086 --> 00:26:59,700
two teenage girls riding
their bike
546
00:27:00,467 --> 00:27:01,867
notice a van.
547
00:27:04,266 --> 00:27:08,667
[Kaylen] We were riding our
bikes, and...
548
00:27:08,667 --> 00:27:14,867
I just hear this loud van
go by and he slowed down
and, like, stared at us.
549
00:27:17,867 --> 00:27:20,000
I was like,
I think that he's... he's...
550
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,867
following, like, he's looking
at us, watching us.
551
00:27:21,867 --> 00:27:25,400
And then he came at us in
the opposite direction and
he did it again.
552
00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:28,086
Let's go. We gotta get outta
here.
553
00:27:28,086 --> 00:27:28,166
Let's go. We gotta get outta
here.
554
00:27:28,166 --> 00:27:30,300
-We took off as fast as our
legs would move.
-We bolted.
555
00:27:32,867 --> 00:27:35,567
He took off following right
behind us.
556
00:27:35,567 --> 00:27:38,800
[Kaylen] We could hear
the gravel being thrown.
He was right there.
557
00:27:38,867 --> 00:27:41,467
I was scared that he was gonna
hit or try to knock her over.
558
00:27:41,467 --> 00:27:46,367
All I could see were his
headlights 'cause he was right
there behind us.
559
00:27:46,367 --> 00:27:50,867
We cut down an alley where his
van was not going to be able
to fit through.
560
00:27:50,867 --> 00:27:55,200
And we just took off riding as
fast as we could to get back
to her house.
561
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,086
He had dark hair, and...
562
00:27:58,086 --> 00:27:59,400
He had dark hair, and...
563
00:27:59,467 --> 00:28:02,300
I guess, a bushy facial hair
or beard.
564
00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:07,200
It's the most terrifying thing
that's ever happened to me
in my life.
565
00:28:13,467 --> 00:28:15,967
[Ron] Larry was kind of
a loner.
566
00:28:15,967 --> 00:28:17,266
Was very quiet.
567
00:28:17,867 --> 00:28:18,967
Stayed to himself.
568
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,567
I always saw them together
569
00:28:22,567 --> 00:28:24,200
when they were younger.
570
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,086
Gary was more outgoing than
his twin brother
571
00:28:28,086 --> 00:28:30,266
Gary was more outgoing than
his twin brother
572
00:28:30,266 --> 00:28:33,467
and Larry seemed to follow his
lead more.
573
00:28:33,467 --> 00:28:37,266
I was the more dominant,
outgoing twin.
574
00:28:37,266 --> 00:28:40,700
And I think he was jealous
of that.
575
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,200
[Hillel] Larry and Gary, as
they grew up,
576
00:28:45,266 --> 00:28:48,467
they did show a lack
of respect for authority.
577
00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:51,367
It turned into vandalism.
578
00:28:51,367 --> 00:28:53,567
They were grilled by
the police,
579
00:28:53,567 --> 00:28:58,086
and the police were kind
of amazed at how hardened
they were
580
00:28:58,086 --> 00:28:59,300
and the police were kind
of amazed at how hardened
they were
581
00:28:59,367 --> 00:29:01,867
in answering interrogations.
582
00:29:01,867 --> 00:29:04,100
Not saying who did it.
583
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:11,000
Larry did help set fire
to several buildings in town.
584
00:29:11,066 --> 00:29:12,767
In fact, he was even arrested.
585
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:27,767
Larry and Gary were
inseparable. They were very
close.
586
00:29:27,767 --> 00:29:28,086
They're brothers. They're best
friends. They're constant
companions.
587
00:29:28,086 --> 00:29:31,600
They're brothers. They're best
friends. They're constant
companions.
588
00:29:31,667 --> 00:29:34,567
In 1984, Robert was fired.
589
00:29:34,567 --> 00:29:37,867
[Ron] Their father lost his
job in the cemetery.
590
00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:41,867
He was fired not only for
drinking,
591
00:29:41,867 --> 00:29:47,967
but he had on occasion, buried
people in the wrong place in
the cemetery.
592
00:29:47,967 --> 00:29:53,300
[Hillel] Once he was let go,
the family left his big giant
house,
593
00:29:53,367 --> 00:29:57,967
and ended up in a very tiny
one-bedroom house.
594
00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:02,367
Gary went to live with his
girlfriend.
595
00:30:02,367 --> 00:30:07,467
And this was an extremely
traumatic event for Larry.
596
00:30:07,467 --> 00:30:10,166
Because Larry was a very
shy kid.
597
00:30:10,166 --> 00:30:14,667
And his best friend, his
partner in crime, so to speak,
598
00:30:14,667 --> 00:30:16,667
was his twin brother Gary.
599
00:30:18,367 --> 00:30:22,567
And suddenly there was just
this huge void in his life.
600
00:30:22,567 --> 00:30:25,900
[Ron] Larry was janitor
at the bank.
601
00:30:25,967 --> 00:30:28,086
He cleaned foreclosed
or houses for sale.
602
00:30:28,086 --> 00:30:30,567
He cleaned foreclosed
or houses for sale.
603
00:30:32,667 --> 00:30:36,767
This was a very lonely
individual
604
00:30:36,767 --> 00:30:42,166
who got deeply into
the hobbies he pursued.
605
00:30:42,166 --> 00:30:45,467
If Gary was interested in
something, then Larry had
to be.
606
00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:52,166
They became interested in
civil war reenactments.
607
00:30:52,166 --> 00:30:57,266
This was the perfect excuse
to grow these bug bushy mutton
chop sideburns
608
00:30:57,266 --> 00:30:58,086
of which he was very proud.
609
00:30:58,086 --> 00:30:58,500
of which he was very proud.
610
00:31:02,066 --> 00:31:06,100
In 1987,Gary gets married.
611
00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:11,100
[Michael] He had a child,
and he had a job.
612
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:17,266
And that kinda puts hard on
doing civil reenactments
because it's a weekend thing.
613
00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:20,100
Larry, he was not married.
614
00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:22,667
He lived at home with his
parents.
615
00:31:24,266 --> 00:31:27,367
So therefore, Larry had more
freedom
616
00:31:27,967 --> 00:31:28,086
to do civil war enacting.
617
00:31:28,086 --> 00:31:31,100
to do civil war enacting.
618
00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:34,900
[Hillel] He went as far away
as Wyoming, and Colorado
and California.
619
00:31:34,967 --> 00:31:41,066
And Missouri, in addition
to Indiana, Illinois
and Wisconsin.
620
00:31:41,066 --> 00:31:45,266
There was a time when Larry
went to reenactments
by himself.
621
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,667
When we left reenactments,
622
00:31:49,667 --> 00:31:51,367
everybody went their own way.
623
00:31:55,266 --> 00:31:58,086
[John] At this point, you
have two homicides across
borders of two states,
624
00:31:58,086 --> 00:32:01,467
[John] At this point, you
have two homicides across
borders of two states,
625
00:32:01,467 --> 00:32:06,000
in a fairly small area, that
are apparently connected.
626
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:11,467
And not any leads that
are gonna take them anywhere.
627
00:32:11,467 --> 00:32:16,100
And then there's a car stop
and that changes everything.
628
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:20,967
Almost exactly one year since
the day that Tricia Reitler
disappeared,
629
00:32:20,967 --> 00:32:25,467
two more teenage girls report
being stalked by a man
in a van.
630
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:28,086
These girls go and notify
their father.
631
00:32:28,086 --> 00:32:32,166
These girls go and notify
their father.
632
00:32:32,166 --> 00:32:34,667
They've got his license
plate number.
633
00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:38,367
[Michael] When police pull
the van over,
634
00:32:38,367 --> 00:32:42,600
and the police officer saw
a bunch of objects that were
pretty chilling.
635
00:32:43,767 --> 00:32:46,467
[Casey] A hunting knife,
a coil of rope,
636
00:32:46,467 --> 00:32:49,300
some lighter fluid and a wad
of cotton.
637
00:32:49,367 --> 00:32:52,266
And most chilling of all,
638
00:32:52,266 --> 00:32:55,000
the missing poster for
Tricia Reitler.
639
00:32:58,066 --> 00:32:58,086
[Hillel] He sees newspaper
clippings about Tricia
Reitler's abduction,
640
00:32:58,086 --> 00:33:03,166
[Hillel] He sees newspaper
clippings about Tricia
Reitler's abduction,
641
00:33:03,166 --> 00:33:07,000
letterhead for Indiana
Wesleyan University,
642
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,700
but with her name all over it.
643
00:33:11,066 --> 00:33:15,500
So, I guess, city people
thought "We got the guy."
644
00:33:16,767 --> 00:33:17,867
[John] Police talk
to the driver.
645
00:33:18,667 --> 00:33:20,767
He's a guy named Larry Hall.
646
00:33:20,767 --> 00:33:23,100
When he's questioned by
detectives...
647
00:33:23,166 --> 00:33:28,086
[Ron] Larry engages with them
about "I dreamt this."
648
00:33:28,086 --> 00:33:28,166
[Ron] Larry engages with them
about "I dreamt this."
649
00:33:28,166 --> 00:33:31,300
I may have done it.
I may not have done it.
650
00:33:31,367 --> 00:33:36,066
Larry said he would show them
where she was buried.
651
00:33:37,567 --> 00:33:40,367
But then just kinda had them
driving in circles.
652
00:33:41,867 --> 00:33:45,467
Which really upset
the officers.
653
00:33:45,467 --> 00:33:48,800
[John] And at this point,
detectives are starting
to have their doubts.
654
00:33:48,867 --> 00:33:51,266
This guy isn't even sure
he's the guy who did it.
655
00:33:51,266 --> 00:33:54,667
They reach out
to Larry Hall's hometown.
656
00:33:54,667 --> 00:33:57,767
And there's a detective who's
known him for 20 years.
657
00:33:57,767 --> 00:33:58,086
"Who? Larry Hall?
He's just an odd duck.
He's totally harmless.
658
00:33:58,086 --> 00:34:02,166
"Who? Larry Hall?
He's just an odd duck.
He's totally harmless.
659
00:34:02,166 --> 00:34:05,667
That's not gonna be your guy."
660
00:34:05,667 --> 00:34:10,100
[Hillel] This made them feel
he was just a wannabe wasting
their time.
661
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:11,567
And they let Larry go.
662
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,767
[Gary] False confessions.
I think it's common.
663
00:34:15,767 --> 00:34:18,667
I think most police officers
have dealt with that.
664
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,767
[Michael] Almost every time
you get a big murder case,
665
00:34:22,767 --> 00:34:26,900
people come forward to confess
even though they've had
nothing to do with it.
666
00:34:26,967 --> 00:34:28,086
They're enthralled by
the publicity.
667
00:34:28,086 --> 00:34:30,000
They're enthralled by
the publicity.
668
00:34:30,066 --> 00:34:32,667
And they want something in
their life so bad that they
669
00:34:32,667 --> 00:34:35,000
convince themselves that
they've done it.
670
00:34:35,066 --> 00:34:38,300
And it's really kinda sad, but
there are people out there who
do that.
671
00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:47,867
[John] Larry Hall is one of
two twins.
672
00:34:47,867 --> 00:34:50,567
He and his brother. Larry
and Gary.
673
00:34:50,567 --> 00:34:52,567
They're born in 1962.
674
00:34:55,667 --> 00:34:57,767
[Larry] Larry was born blue.
675
00:34:57,767 --> 00:34:58,086
Being born blue is a clear
indication that you're not
getting enough oxygen.
676
00:34:58,086 --> 00:35:01,767
Being born blue is a clear
indication that you're not
getting enough oxygen.
677
00:35:01,767 --> 00:35:05,467
[Hillel] His mother had some
problems in birth.
678
00:35:05,467 --> 00:35:11,100
What we now call twin to twin
transfusion syndrome.
679
00:35:11,166 --> 00:35:16,367
TTTS is a fascinating
complication of a twin
pregnancy.
680
00:35:16,367 --> 00:35:19,266
You have two babies sharing
a single placenta.
681
00:35:19,266 --> 00:35:24,000
What ends up happening is that
one twin sends blood
to the other.
682
00:35:24,066 --> 00:35:27,100
But the recipient can't
return it.
683
00:35:27,166 --> 00:35:28,086
Larry is continuously giving
away these precious resources
and the oxygen to Gary.
684
00:35:28,086 --> 00:35:32,567
Larry is continuously giving
away these precious resources
and the oxygen to Gary.
685
00:35:32,567 --> 00:35:36,467
But Gary is hoarding them and
unable to give them back
to Larry.
686
00:35:36,467 --> 00:35:39,500
It's almost like
a parasitic situation.
687
00:35:39,567 --> 00:35:47,266
[Larry] Larry comes out at
delivery really small, thin,
lean, blue.
688
00:35:47,266 --> 00:35:50,000
Totally deprived of, you know,
the normal resources
689
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,900
that he would need
to develop normally.
690
00:35:52,967 --> 00:35:57,867
Basically brain damage that
can follow that child
throughout his life.
691
00:35:59,367 --> 00:36:01,266
[Ron] Gary was always sharper.
692
00:36:01,967 --> 00:36:03,667
I'll put it that way.
693
00:36:03,667 --> 00:36:07,400
[Larry] There's an entire
class of disorders related to
694
00:36:07,467 --> 00:36:11,266
personality, behavior,
attention,
695
00:36:11,266 --> 00:36:15,066
hyperactivity, social and
awkward social behavior.
696
00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:20,100
And this is how Larry Dwayne
Hall was born into this world.
697
00:36:22,867 --> 00:36:27,800
[Gary] I laid the picture down
on the table in front of us
698
00:36:27,867 --> 00:36:28,086
and I said, how about this
girl? Do you remember ever
talking to her?
699
00:36:28,086 --> 00:36:31,166
and I said, how about this
girl? Do you remember ever
talking to her?
700
00:36:31,667 --> 00:36:33,166
He flinched.
701
00:36:47,166 --> 00:36:52,000
[Casey] In November of 1994,
the lead detective,
Gary Miller,
702
00:36:52,066 --> 00:36:57,667
is still trying hard to figure
out who killed Jessica Roach.
703
00:36:57,667 --> 00:37:02,000
A year after Jessica's body
had been found,
704
00:37:02,066 --> 00:37:06,900
there was a complaint in
the two of Georgetown.
705
00:37:06,967 --> 00:37:09,864
There's a new report of a guy
in a van, stalking girls.
706
00:37:09,864 --> 00:37:11,567
There's a new report of a guy
in a van, stalking girls.
707
00:37:11,567 --> 00:37:15,367
[Gary] The license plate
came back to Larry Hall.
708
00:37:15,367 --> 00:37:17,867
So I just picked up the phone.
709
00:37:17,867 --> 00:37:21,266
Called the Wolbach police
department.
710
00:37:21,266 --> 00:37:23,567
He said, "Well, one thing with
Larry is,
711
00:37:23,567 --> 00:37:28,100
if you've had a civil war
reenactment, he would
be there."
712
00:37:30,266 --> 00:37:34,300
I started looking. And in
the rural area outside of
Georgetown,
713
00:37:34,367 --> 00:37:39,166
they had had a revolutionary
war reenactment
714
00:37:39,166 --> 00:37:39,864
on Sunday before the Monday
that Jessica was abducted.
715
00:37:39,864 --> 00:37:42,100
on Sunday before the Monday
that Jessica was abducted.
716
00:37:44,467 --> 00:37:47,600
I certainly thought it should
be followed up.
717
00:37:49,266 --> 00:37:53,867
So he goes to Indiana
to interview Larry Hall.
718
00:37:53,867 --> 00:37:58,100
[Gary] I had a picture, it was
a school picture of Jessica
Roach.
719
00:37:58,166 --> 00:38:03,000
And I laid the picture down
on the table in front of us.
720
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,400
And I said, "Do you ever
remember talking to her?"
721
00:38:06,467 --> 00:38:09,864
And Larry immediately flinched
to the right. Turned his head.
722
00:38:09,864 --> 00:38:10,300
And Larry immediately flinched
to the right. Turned his head.
723
00:38:12,467 --> 00:38:15,300
A lot of detective work
is intuitive.
724
00:38:15,367 --> 00:38:19,367
In this particular case, Larry
Hall's reaction wasn't even
subtle.
725
00:38:19,367 --> 00:38:23,767
He immediately showed
recognition of the girl in
that picture.
726
00:38:23,767 --> 00:38:25,667
The murder victim,
Jessica Roach.
727
00:38:29,767 --> 00:38:32,266
On November 15th, 1994,
728
00:38:32,266 --> 00:38:37,166
Miller returns with FBI
polygrapher Michael Randolph.
729
00:38:37,166 --> 00:38:38,900
[Gary] He didn't wanna take
the polygraph.
730
00:38:38,967 --> 00:38:39,864
I stepped out and Mike began
talking to him.
731
00:38:39,864 --> 00:38:43,467
I stepped out and Mike began
talking to him.
732
00:38:43,467 --> 00:38:48,000
[Casey] Randolph gains
the trust of Larry Hall and
engages him in conversation.
733
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,166
Larry Hall tells Michael
Randolph, "I'm ready. I'm
ready to confess."
734
00:38:56,700 --> 00:39:01,266
[Hillel] Here is the statement
that agent Randolph took down.
735
00:39:01,266 --> 00:39:07,066
It starts, "I recall I was in
Illinois for the revolutionary
war reenactment.
736
00:39:07,066 --> 00:39:09,864
I was on the road and there
was a girl walking a bike.
737
00:39:09,864 --> 00:39:11,567
I was on the road and there
was a girl walking a bike.
738
00:39:12,266 --> 00:39:14,300
I stopped and talked to her.
739
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:21,667
I had to grab her, because
she wouldn't have gotten in
by herself.
740
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,667
Since I usually kept starting
fluid in rags,
741
00:39:26,667 --> 00:39:29,200
I might have used these
on her.
742
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,667
I tied her up. But I can't
remember with what.
743
00:39:33,667 --> 00:39:35,867
I remember taking
her pants off.
744
00:39:36,667 --> 00:39:38,467
I took my pants off.
745
00:39:38,467 --> 00:39:39,864
And had sex with her."
746
00:39:39,864 --> 00:39:40,500
And had sex with her."
747
00:39:44,266 --> 00:39:50,667
[Gary] He said that he took
her to an extremely wooded
area by a river.
748
00:39:50,667 --> 00:39:54,200
[Hillel] "I laid her up
against a tree.
749
00:39:54,266 --> 00:39:57,166
And put a belt around
her neck.
750
00:39:57,166 --> 00:39:58,567
Then she stopped breathing.
751
00:39:59,567 --> 00:40:04,000
I just do things. I am not
in control.
752
00:40:04,066 --> 00:40:07,867
This was one of those times
when I was not in control.
753
00:40:07,867 --> 00:40:09,367
I have nightmares
754
00:40:09,367 --> 00:40:09,864
where I remember these
murders."
755
00:40:09,864 --> 00:40:12,200
where I remember these
murders."
756
00:40:12,266 --> 00:40:15,200
[Casey] It was almost as if
once the floodgates opened,
757
00:40:15,266 --> 00:40:17,967
he was ready to tell them
everything he knew.
758
00:40:17,967 --> 00:40:21,467
He confessed to killing
a bunch of girls
759
00:40:21,467 --> 00:40:23,667
in the Midwest,
from several states.
760
00:40:27,867 --> 00:40:31,867
And then recanted on all
those confessions.
761
00:40:31,867 --> 00:40:34,667
And then Larry takes it back.
"I didn't kill them."
762
00:40:34,667 --> 00:40:36,667
[Hillel] There was no forensic
evidence...
763
00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:38,667
against Larry.
764
00:40:38,667 --> 00:40:39,864
How is this guy able to commit
all these murders and not
765
00:40:39,864 --> 00:40:41,600
How is this guy able to commit
all these murders and not
766
00:40:41,667 --> 00:40:45,200
leave one piece of physical
evidence?
767
00:40:45,266 --> 00:40:49,300
Why would you confess
to multiple murders if you
didn't do them?
768
00:40:49,367 --> 00:40:51,266
[Casey] Was it a false
confession?
769
00:40:51,266 --> 00:40:56,066
[reporter] He says he agreed
with anything police said so
they would let him go home.
770
00:40:56,066 --> 00:41:01,066
Or is he the greatest serial
killer to never be convicted
of any murder?
771
00:41:01,066 --> 00:41:04,100
The FBI is currently
investigating Hall's possible
772
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:06,000
involvement in other
abductions.
773
00:41:06,066 --> 00:41:07,600
Hall could be a serial killer.
774
00:41:08,667 --> 00:41:09,864
I'm convinced. There is no
question in my mind.
775
00:41:09,864 --> 00:41:11,900
I'm convinced. There is no
question in my mind.
776
00:41:12,867 --> 00:41:15,200
He did exactly what he
told me he did.
777
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:19,667
I'm not a killer. You're just
using me to solve all those
crimes.
778
00:41:19,667 --> 00:41:21,667
I'm not a killer, okay?
779
00:41:24,767 --> 00:41:28,967
Larry Dwayne Hall was either
responsible for
the kidnapping, sexual assault
780
00:41:28,967 --> 00:41:32,367
and strangulation deaths of
one victim after another,
781
00:41:32,367 --> 00:41:36,367
or a poor soul so desperate
for attention, he was willing
to confess to murders
782
00:41:36,367 --> 00:41:38,100
he did not commit.
783
00:41:38,166 --> 00:41:39,864
Final ruling comes in front of
a judge and jury during a
rollercoaster ride through
784
00:41:39,864 --> 00:41:41,900
Final ruling comes in front of
a judge and jury during a
rollercoaster ride through
785
00:41:41,967 --> 00:41:43,367
the court system.
786
00:41:43,367 --> 00:41:46,767
The DA prosecuting the case
steps up his investigation
787
00:41:46,767 --> 00:41:51,367
with a daring new plan to get
his man in part two of
"The Twin."
788
00:41:51,367 --> 00:41:54,567
I'm Donnie Wahlberg. Thanks
for watching. Good night.