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[Keith Hunter Jesperson
on phone]
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Welcome to Very Scary People.
I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
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Julie Winningham's
family and friends
would describe her
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Julie Winningham's
family and friends
would describe her
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as kind, warm,
and free-spirited.
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So when the 41-year-old's body
was found off a remote road
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in the Columbia River Gorge,
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her loved ones
couldn't imagine
who would want to kill her.
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But as police start
investigating her murder,
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they discover more bodies
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and a shocking link
to a letter
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sent to The Oregonian
newspaper a year before.
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Here's part two
of the Happy Face Killer.
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[Casey Jordan]
January 22nd, 1990,
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police would receive a call
of a female body
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that had been spotted
down the incline
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at the Columbia River Gorge.
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Her body was found
partially unclothed, um,
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her pants had been
pulled down,
her top was up.
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The woman had a rope
around her neck.
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She had been strangled.
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She had been strangled.
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She'd been strangled.
She'd been beaten badly.
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[Michelle L. White]
They wanted to identify her.
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So I had to think of something
to identify her.
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All I could think of
is she had very flat feet
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and she had a mole
on her hand.
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[Jordan] She confirmed
that it was indeed her sister,
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Taunja Bennett.
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[Joey Jackson]
Laverne Pavlinac confessed
that she was there
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when her boyfriend
John Sosnovske
killed Taunja Bennett.
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Both Laverne Pavlinac
and John Sosnovske
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Both Laverne Pavlinac
and John Sosnovske
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are charged with the murder
of 23-year-old Taunja Bennett.
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[Monty Buettner]
The Oregonian
received a letter from
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a person that they deemed
the Happy Face Killer.
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And the reason they deem
that is it was marked
with a happy face.
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The letters detailed five, um,
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homicides that they claimed
responsibility for,
including Taunja Bennett.
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[Jeff Gianola]
Was he playing some kind
of cat and mouse game?
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[Jeff Gianola]
Was he playing some kind
of cat and mouse game?
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It was pretty obvious
this wasn't a hoax.
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[Jesperson on recording]
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In 1994, the Internet
was just starting
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to become a big thing.
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And, uh, newspapers,
like The Oregonian,
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And, uh, newspapers,
like The Oregonian,
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had the resources
to turn reporters,
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like Phil Stanford,
loose on important stories.
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And he found a lot
of facts that pointed
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toward the letter
being an authentic
confession letter.
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[Alafair Burke]
Law enforcement did
investigate the letters,
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trying to identify
who the author might be.
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and to line up those, uh,
claimed homicides
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with actual cases.
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Um, they did pull fingerprints
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Um, they did pull fingerprints
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and DNA from the letters,
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but there was nothing
in the database
to match them to.
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Unfortunately, these letters
didn't really open
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any new avenues
of investigation,
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'cause there was
no indication of who was
writing the letters.
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There was no way to prove
who had authored them.
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[Jackson] Even though
they have the six-page letter,
which speaks specifically
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about the 1990 murder
of Taunja Bennett,
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authorities don't
re-open the case
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because they believe
they have the right people
in prison,
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because they believe
they have the right people
in prison,
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John Sosnovske
and Laverne Pavlinac.
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I was actually surprised
after the series ran
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that there wasn't an uproar
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from the Multnomah County,
uh, District Attorney's office
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or the Sheriff's Office.
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There was nothing.
They didn't re-open
an investigation.
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They just did nothing
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and life went on.
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It was a year later,
as I recall...
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It was a year later,
as I recall...
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...that a woman was murdered.
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March 11th, 1995,
was a Saturday.
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Um, I was on days off,
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and so, I received a call
about 4:00 PM
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that a, uh, passerby
had stopped along, uh,
Highway 14,
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that a, uh, passerby
had stopped along, uh,
Highway 14,
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um, to urinate off the side
of the road where
he couldn't be seen.
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Highway 14 basically travels
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east and west through
the Columbia River Gorge.
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As he was doing that,
he noticed what he initially
thought was a mannequin.
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But as he looked at it
a little closer,
a little harder
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from where he stood,
he saw fingernail polish
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and those kind of things
that indicated
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it may not be a mannequin,
it may be human remains.
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As I approached the scene,
I'm looking for any signs
of her clothing.
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I'm looking for signs
of any identification,
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I'm looking for signs
of maybe a purse
or a wallet,
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and I found none in the area.
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Um, it was just a nude woman
with, with no clothing there,
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no, um, forms
of identification.
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What we did
is load her into, um,
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a transport vehicle
and took her to the
Clark County Coroner's Office.
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The medical examiner
concludes that this woman
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The medical examiner
concludes that this woman
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died of manual strangulation.
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Once we knew that
it was caused by another,
being a homicide,
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now we need to identify
who this person is.
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[Jordan] They lift
her fingerprints
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and match them
to a set in the system.
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[Buettner] Those fingerprints
were put into the, uh,
national database,
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um, where we were able
to determine her identity
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as Julie Winningham.
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Julie was my mother
and I was her only son.
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She was truly a kind-hearted,
free-spirited...
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She was truly a kind-hearted,
free-spirited...
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Loved to travel.
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She just wasn't
a negative soul.
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She was loving and caring,
she didn't do people wrong.
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[Gianola]
The Taunja Bennett murder
happened in 1990
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and her body is dumped
in the Columbia River Gorge.
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Five years later, in 1995,
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Julie Winningham's body
is found
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in the Columbia River Gorge
on the Washington side.
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in the Columbia River Gorge
on the Washington side.
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Nobody knows yet
that those two murders
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are connected
to the same person.
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[Jesperson on recording]
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[Buettner] Once we identified
who she is,
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then our next step is to
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talk to Julie's friends
and family to figure out
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who she was last with,
when she was last seen.
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[Jordan]
According to detectives,
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friends of Julie Winningham
confirmed
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that she had been seen
with a very large man,
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and that these two
had become very close.
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and that these two
had become very close.
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This man was
a long haul truck driver,
drove a big blue truck.
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[Buettner] One of the people
we spoke with,
a friend of Julie's,
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was Bonnie Valenstein.
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She actually described
that she had
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bought a car from Julie
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a few weeks prior
to her disappearance.
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There was this large man,
actually signed it
as a witness.
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And so we're thinking,
"Okay, we're gonna have
a signature.
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This is too easy.
It can't be that easy.
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It's not gonna pan out
as we hope."
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However, when she showed us
the bill of sale,
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However, when she showed us
the bill of sale,
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the signature
was pretty clear.
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But in addition to that,
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the signer had actually
printed his name,
Keith Hunter Jesperson.
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And that's the first time
that we had that information,
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as far as who this
truck driver was.
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[Jordan] Detectives are able
to track down the truck
of Keith Jesperson
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to a company
in Spokane, Washington.
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And they do confirm
that Keith Jesperson
is a truck driver for them.
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And in fact, he's on
a long haul right now.
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And in fact, he's on
a long haul right now.
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He's driving a truck
down the California coast
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to go to Las Cruces,
New Mexico.
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And he is scheduled
to arrive in two days.
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Police get on a flight
to Las Cruces
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and are there waiting for him
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when the truck pulls in
with its delivery.
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[Buettner] At that stage,
all we knew is that
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this guy's a very large man,
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and that if he resists,
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it's going to be a struggle
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to get him into custody
and restrained.
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And so, um,
we had to prepare
for the worst.
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And so, um,
we had to prepare
for the worst.
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But once he came to the gate,
the officer was there,
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uh, explained,
"Just park your truck here.
Follow me on foot."
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And as we approached him
and identified ourselves
as detectives,
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he just didn't seem
to be bothered by it.
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Didn't seem to be threatened
in any way.
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Um, he was very, uh, calm,
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um, was very cooperative,
wanted to help us.
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Even not knowing
what the investigation
was for,
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he still was willing
to talk to us.
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he still was willing
to talk to us.
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It wasn't until we actually
got into the interview room
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that we told him,
"We're actually from
the state of Washington
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and we're
investigating the death
of Julie Winningham."
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[Jordan]
He's incredibly talkative,
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but he only wants
to talk about
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how great Keith Jesperson is.
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He's friendly,
he's cooperative,
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but he denies any knowledge
of what happened
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to Julie Winningham.
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[Buettner]
As we interviewed him,
he had described that
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they had actually met
two years before.
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they had actually met
two years before.
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Had a romantic relationship
at that point in time,
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that, uh, Julie had actually
accompanied him
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on several runs,
uh, driving truck.
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They went down to California,
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they went
to Yakima, Washington.
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[Don Findlay]
From my understanding,
my mother had met Keith
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[Don Findlay]
From my understanding,
my mother had met Keith
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three years prior to '95,
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because she knew
other truck drivers
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and hung out
at the truck stops, and...
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So, somehow,
she reconnected with Keith
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and they spent about
three weeks in town together.
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[Buettner] Keith described
that about the first week
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in March '95,
that he'd again saw her,
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uh, at a truck stop,
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and that they struck up
a conversation again,
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and that they struck up
a conversation again,
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kinda started the relationship
over again.
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At this stage, he described
that it was kinda one-sided,
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that he really
didn't care for her,
is how he described it,
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that he felt that
she was actually only with him
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because he was
buying her things.
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But that she was willing
to have sex with him.
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[Findlay] She was beautiful,
kind-hearted,
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but at the same time,
she was a very weak soul.
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Even though she was
a free-spirited soul.
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Even though she was
a free-spirited soul.
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So I think that's
what drew him in.
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Because he's such
a negative person.
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I don't know.
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But that's what I think
drew him in.
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Detectives felt that
Keith Jesperson
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was hiding information
about Julie,
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but didn't have
enough evidence to arrest him.
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Though Detective Buettner
gave Jesperson his card,
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telling him to call him
if he has anything
further to say.
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[Jorden] When those detectives
return home
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from New Mexico on March 24th,
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they receive a message
from Keith Jesperson.
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He says,
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"This is Keith
Hunter Jesperson."
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[Jesperson on recording]
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[Buettner] Jesperson
admitted that
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he was waiting
in his truck for Julie.
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Julie showed up,
had some pizza,
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they had consensual sex.
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They then were talking about
some other things.
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Jesperson said he wanted
to have sex again.
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Julie told him,
"Well, I don't want to."
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And then Jesperson said,
"Well, what if
I do it anyway?"
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She told him,
"Well, then,
that would be rape.
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And I would have
to report that."
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That angered Jesperson.
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And at that point,
he said he strangled her.
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[on recording]
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Everything he told us
confirmed that he had indeed
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killed Julie Winningham
by strangling her,
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and then dumped her body
in Skamania County
in the Columbia Gorge.
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and then dumped her body
in Skamania County
in the Columbia Gorge.
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And within, uh,
a short amount of time,
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Keith Jesperson was taken
into custody for the murder
of Julie Winningham.
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[Jordan]
Keith Hunter Jesperson
was born in 1955
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to his father Leslie
and mother Gladys Jesperson
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in the little rural town
of Chilliwack,
British Columbia.
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He was the middle
of five children,
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with two brothers
and two sisters.
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Keith was considered
the slowest
of the Jesperson children.
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They say he often dawdled,
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and would like to spend
a lot of time by himself,
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isolating himself.
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isolating himself.
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He was sort of
the black sheep of the family.
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[Janine Beghtol]
His father was pretty abusive,
is what I understand,
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towards Keith only.
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And his father was a drinker
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and that Keith got
the blunt of it.
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[on recording]
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[Jordan] Keith's father
made his children work
every single day.
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And if the children
made any sign of laziness,
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And if the children
made any sign of laziness,
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he would beat them
with a leather belt.
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[Robert Schug]
He reports physical abuse
coming from his dad,
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and how his father often
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made him feel like
an inconvenience.
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Like someone
just to be tolerated.
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[Jordan] In spite of all this,
Keith would insist
that his father Leslie
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was one of the best dads
a kid could have.
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[Schug] His dad was well known
in the community.
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He probably had his father
up on a pedestal,
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He probably had his father
up on a pedestal,
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which makes it
even more challenging
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when you're trying
to be recognized,
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when Dad is almost
a superhero.
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The relationship
with his mother,
distant emotionally.
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It shouldn't
be a surprise that
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an individual
who has very little,
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if not any
emotional connection
with his mother...
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...ends up being able
to perpetrate violence
against women.
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The family moves
to the small town
in Washington called Selah.
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Keith just seemed to me,
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um, an ex-classmate
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that I feel like I never knew.
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I first met Keith
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as a freshman in high school.
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I'm only 4'9",
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and Keith is, like, 6'7".
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So, he towered me.
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[Jorden] Keith didn't do
very well in school.
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[Jorden] Keith didn't do
very well in school.
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He was very large
and uncoordinated,
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and the other kids
made fun of him
and even bullied him.
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[Beghtol] Keith tried
really hard to try to fit in.
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He was trying
to get attention at school
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'cause he wasn't
getting it at home.
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Course, we never did
to his face,
but unfortunately,
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because of his size,
we would call him Baby Huey.
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It was a cartoon character
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back in the late
'60s and '70s.
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[Schug] Keith grew up
experiencing physical abuse
from his parents,
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[Schug] Keith grew up
experiencing physical abuse
from his parents,
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experiencing bullying
from his peers.
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And what we know
about that is,
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somebody who is victimized
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learns the role of the victim,
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but also, potentially,
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the role of the abuser.
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In his teens,
Keith Jesperson didn't have
a lot of luck with girls,
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but when he was
20 years old in 1975,
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he married 18-year-old
Rose Pernick,
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and together
they had three children.
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and together
they had three children.
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Say hi, Grandpa.
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[Leslie Jesperson]
Hi, sweetheart.
I see your new boots.
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-See?
-[Leslie] Holy smoke.
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You have new boots!
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[Schug] They built
a marriage that worked,
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at least fundamentally,
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in terms of Keith
supporting his family
by working,
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and her maintaining the home
and raising the children.
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Now what do I do
to get it going? [laughs]
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[laughing] I don't know
if I like this!
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[laughing] I don't know
if I like this!
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-Keith!
-[Jesperson]
Keep your feet up.
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[Rose Pernick laughing]
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Keith was just
the traditional dad.
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He did the work,
his wife Rose stayed at home.
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And the kids in the household
seemed very normal.
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[Jesperson] Eat it.
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-[Jesperson] Mmm!
-[Pernick laughing]
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[on recording]
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[Schug] Keith was able
to make a good living
as a long haul truck driver.
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[Schug] Keith was able
to make a good living
as a long haul truck driver.
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But he's off driving
around the country
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for weeks at a time sometimes.
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And, uh, he's physically
and emotionally away
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from his wife,
away from his children.
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[Jordan] According to Keith,
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he and Rose had
the normal kind
of sexual relationship
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in their marriage
in the early years.
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But then things grew stale.
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Once he became
a long haul trucker,
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it was kind of easy
to pick up girls
at the truck stops,
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and he was seeing girls
on the side.
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[on recording]
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[on recording]
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[Schug] Keith's marriage
completely falls apart.
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He loses his job,
they lose the house,
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he ends up starting to date
another woman.
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And then he and Rose
get divorced.
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And then he and Rose
get divorced.
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And so, financially,
he's really sliding quickly.
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He has to go out
on the roads to work more,
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which further isolates him
from his children.
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[Gianola] When you started
to peel off the layers
of his life,
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then you came
to find out later
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from his daughter
and from other people,
some disturbing elements.
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[Casey] According to
Keith Jesperson's
daughter, Melissa,
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when they were living
in Washington state
and she was about
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five years old, their cat
had a litter of kittens
in the basement.
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five years old, their cat
had a litter of kittens
in the basement.
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And Keith took these
kittens and hung them
by their tails
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from the clothesline.
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Later, Melissa reports
she found all of the kittens
dead in the backyard.
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I was six years old
when I saw my dad
kill my kittens
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that I had found,
and that's when it hit me
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that something's very dark
and different about my dad.
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[Casey] Melissa reports
that when she was 13,
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her father told her
that he could kill a woman
and get away with it.
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her father told her
that he could kill a woman
and get away with it.
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He told her that he had
literally killed a woman
and cut the buttons
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off her clothing to get
rid of any possibility
of fingerprints
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on those buttons.
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And that he would wear
cycling shoes to make sure
he didn't leave any
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footprints in the mud.
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Welcome back to
Very Scary People.
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Keith Hunter Jesperson
confesses to murdering
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his girlfriend
Julie Winningham
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and dumping her body
in the Columbia River Gorge.
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Seems like a cut and dry case,
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until detectives hear
from Keith's brother Brad.
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He tells them he has
a letter they need to see
immediately.
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So, this is the letter
that Keith Jesperson
wrote to his brother, Brad,
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on March 24th, 1995.
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This is when he's being
questioned about
Julie Winningham's murder,
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he says, "Hi, Brad...
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[continues reading]
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He's arrested for
the Julie Winningham murder.
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At that point, he makes
a phone call to his brother,
Brad, and says...
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"Destroy the letter."
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So, on one hand he's saying,
"I wanna be caught,
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00:22:44,467 --> 00:22:45,533
but not really."
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00:22:46,367 --> 00:22:49,000
He had told Keith
that he had destroyed it,
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but, in fact, he didn't
destroy it,
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00:22:50,734 --> 00:22:53,367
and he provided our
officers with the letter.
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In the letter, he talks
about how he had killed
multiple women by that point.
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In the letter, he talks
about how he had killed
multiple women by that point.
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And so, that was our
first concrete information
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of our worst nightmare
that there are more victims
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that Keith Jesperson
had murdered.
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This is an unbelievable
development.
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Detectives believed that they
had a person who killed
his girlfriend.
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Never did they think
that they had a serial
killer on their hands.
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It's terrifying information
because now we know
of multiple victims,
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we don't know where.
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We don't know how to
possibly track these
victims down,
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how to identify 'em,
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how to identify 'em,
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how to verify that, maybe,
a victim in another State
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whose body was recovered,
that was the beginning
of the hard work
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in that investigation.
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So, in 1995, the way
to communicate with
other agencies
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was to send out
what we referred to
as a teletype,
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basically it was a message
sent out through a computer
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that goes to all law
enforcement agencies,
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that we have somebody
that's admitting to killing
multiple women,
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that he is a long haul
truck driver.
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Up to this point, we know
that his method of murder
was strangulation.
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It may or may not be similar.
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That he is known
to dump his victims
off the side of the road,
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along major highways.
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Please contact us if you have
anything, um, that you are
aware of,
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that you have not solved
up to this point.
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[Jeff] As he's confessing
to these crimes,
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they're realizing
only a killer would know
this information.
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Now they're questioning
the Taunja Bennett murder
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saying there's a good
chance he did do this
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saying there's a good
chance he did do this
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and that two innocent people
are in jail.
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[Chris] My role in
the Jesperson case started
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after he got arrested
for killing
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his girlfriend
in Clark County, Washington.
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We got a call from
a detective over there
who said,
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"We've got a person
in custody on one of
our homicides.
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And the word is that
he has committed
some other murders,
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and very specifically,
he's... the word is that
he killed a female
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00:24:57,661 --> 00:24:59,000
and very specifically,
he's... the word is that
he killed a female
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in Multnomah county
named Taunja Bennett.
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And that he's aware
of the fact that some
people were in prison
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for that murder."
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[Det. Chris]
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[Keith]
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The first time I met
Keith Jesperson,
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I was a little bit surprised
because he came across as
the farm boy next door.
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He didn't use a lot
of swear words,
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he didn't act like
a tough guy.
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he wasn't covered with
jailhouse tattoos,
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he wasn't covered with
jailhouse tattoos,
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and he was very friendly
with me.
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He appeared to enjoy
talking to me.
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He wasn't running from me
in terms of what he was
saying.
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I interviewed him four times.
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But the initial interview
was very simple,
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and he told me that
he had killed Taunja Bennett
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in 1990.
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00:26:12,367 --> 00:26:16,000
He said that he'd gone
to the BNI Tavern,
he'd lived on a home nearby.
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He'd gone to the BNI Tavern
and he saw Taunja Bennett
in there,
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00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,734
and there was some
interaction.
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And then
he left the BNI for a while,
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and he came back,
and Taunja was there.
472
00:26:51,266 --> 00:26:57,367
And there was a conversation
about getting something to eat
at a nearby restaurant.
473
00:26:57,367 --> 00:26:57,661
But he explains to her
he has to run home
474
00:26:57,661 --> 00:27:00,066
But he explains to her
he has to run home
475
00:27:00,066 --> 00:27:01,734
because he doesn't
have any money with him.
476
00:27:01,734 --> 00:27:04,367
So, she goes with him
to his home,
477
00:27:04,367 --> 00:27:07,700
and while they're there,
they never end up
going to dinner,
478
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:10,867
but they do end up having sex.
479
00:27:10,867 --> 00:27:13,367
[Chris] He said that she
agreed to have sex with him
480
00:27:13,367 --> 00:27:16,000
on a mattress
in the living room.
481
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,266
And that happened,
according to Jesperson.
482
00:27:19,266 --> 00:27:24,166
And at some point,
she said something
that offended Jesperson,
483
00:27:24,166 --> 00:27:27,634
and he said he decided
he was gonna kill her.
484
00:28:08,367 --> 00:28:11,266
[Chris] He apparently
strangled her.
485
00:28:11,266 --> 00:28:13,367
And left her in his home,
486
00:28:13,367 --> 00:28:17,700
where he was living with
another woman who was
also out of town,
487
00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:19,533
she was a truck driver.
488
00:28:19,533 --> 00:28:23,000
He went back to
the BNI Tavern because
he wanted to establish
489
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,661
an alibi about where
he was all afternoon
and evening.
490
00:28:27,661 --> 00:28:27,800
an alibi about where
he was all afternoon
and evening.
491
00:28:40,367 --> 00:28:44,166
He became very concerned
about the potential
for forensic evidence,
492
00:28:44,166 --> 00:28:48,500
and was afraid that his
fingerprints might be
on the zipper tab.
493
00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:53,100
So he cut the fly
out of her jeans so he could
take the fingerprint with him.
494
00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:55,800
Then he went back
to the home where
he's killed Taunja,
495
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,661
and picked her up,
and took her out
to the dump site
496
00:28:57,661 --> 00:28:59,900
and picked her up,
and took her out
to the dump site
497
00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:02,233
which was in
the Columbia River Gorge.
498
00:29:11,634 --> 00:29:14,600
I'm told, the moment
at which law enforcement
really did believe
499
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,800
that Keith Jesperson
was involved in Taunja
Bennett's murder...
500
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,066
was he took them
out to the Columbia Gorge.
501
00:29:22,166 --> 00:29:26,367
Taunja Bennett's mother
had said that she left
with a purse,
502
00:29:26,367 --> 00:29:29,233
and her Walkman,
and they had never
found her purse.
503
00:29:30,467 --> 00:29:34,266
And when Jesperson
confessed to killing
Bennett,
504
00:29:34,266 --> 00:29:37,800
he described her purse
and said that he tossed it.
505
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:38,329
And he pointed to an area
in the gorge and he said,
506
00:29:38,329 --> 00:29:41,000
And he pointed to an area
in the gorge and he said,
507
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,634
"That's where I left
her purse."
508
00:29:43,867 --> 00:29:46,467
So0 the police brought out
Explorer scouts,
509
00:29:46,467 --> 00:29:48,533
who are, you know students
who want to be
police officers,
510
00:29:48,533 --> 00:29:50,166
and gave them
hacksaws and said,
511
00:29:50,166 --> 00:29:51,433
"Were looking for a purse."
512
00:29:52,734 --> 00:29:55,266
And they were
about to call it in
and one of the kids said,
513
00:29:55,266 --> 00:29:57,367
"I've got a purse."
514
00:29:57,367 --> 00:30:00,233
It had Taunja Bennett's
ID card in it still.
515
00:30:16,467 --> 00:30:19,600
There was a search warrant
that would allow, uh,
the detectives to actually
516
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,467
have Jesperson write down
some things
517
00:30:22,467 --> 00:30:24,100
that they tell him
to write down.
518
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:27,867
And with that paper,
and as well as any
letters that he
519
00:30:27,867 --> 00:30:29,367
is suspected of writing,
520
00:30:29,367 --> 00:30:32,634
it goes to
a handwriting expert
who does a comparison.
521
00:30:33,533 --> 00:30:35,600
And the letter
to The Oregonian
522
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,166
and the letter to Brad
were verified by the expert
523
00:30:38,166 --> 00:30:38,329
as being written and authored
by Keith Jesperson.
524
00:30:38,329 --> 00:30:41,166
as being written and authored
by Keith Jesperson.
525
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:43,233
"The Happy Face Killer."
526
00:30:45,066 --> 00:30:47,533
They were also able to get DNA
527
00:30:47,533 --> 00:30:50,734
from one of the letters,
"The Happy Face Killer"
letters,
528
00:30:50,734 --> 00:30:54,100
that they were able
to match to Keith
Jesperson's DNA.
529
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:56,500
So, at that point it was
very clear that
530
00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:59,100
he had written the letters.
531
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:03,166
It all started to come out
and it all started to mirror
532
00:31:03,166 --> 00:31:07,000
what he had written
to The Oregonian
the year before,
533
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,329
what he had written
on the bathroom walls.
534
00:31:08,329 --> 00:31:10,867
what he had written
on the bathroom walls.
535
00:31:10,867 --> 00:31:15,233
It all came crashing down
on Keith Jesperson.
536
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:19,467
[Monty] When things
started to quiet down,
537
00:31:19,467 --> 00:31:21,467
he would spark interest again
538
00:31:21,467 --> 00:31:23,700
by bringing up things
that he'd done.
539
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:27,700
He would write letters
to media outlets
and want to be interviewed.
540
00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:30,700
And saying,
"Hey, I'm confessing
to these crimes
541
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:32,233
and nobody is listening
to me."
542
00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:47,533
He reaches out to KATU
Television Station
543
00:31:47,533 --> 00:31:52,266
and has a conversation
with our reporter Bob Heye.
544
00:31:52,266 --> 00:31:55,467
In that conversation,
he is repeatedly asked,
545
00:31:55,467 --> 00:31:57,166
"Are you
the Happy Face Killer?"
546
00:32:02,166 --> 00:32:05,800
Each time, Keith Jesperson
says, "Yes, I am."
547
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,329
Bob Heye also asks him,
"Why did you do it?"
548
00:32:08,329 --> 00:32:09,166
Bob Heye also asks him,
"Why did you do it?"
549
00:32:09,166 --> 00:32:12,433
And he can't explain it,
he says, "I don't know."
550
00:32:16,867 --> 00:32:18,467
[Keith laughs]
551
00:32:31,367 --> 00:32:32,867
Why would he do this?
552
00:32:32,867 --> 00:32:36,000
Well, Jesperson says
that he was courting
the media
553
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,700
because two people
554
00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:38,329
were wrongfully imprisoned
in jail,
555
00:32:38,329 --> 00:32:39,867
were wrongfully imprisoned
in jail,
556
00:32:39,867 --> 00:32:41,367
and he needed the media's help
557
00:32:41,367 --> 00:32:43,000
to get the evidence out there,
558
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,467
so that these two people
could be freed
559
00:32:45,467 --> 00:32:47,867
because he was indeed
the Happy Face Killer.
560
00:32:47,867 --> 00:32:51,266
And the question remains, did
he really feel bad about
these two people
561
00:32:51,266 --> 00:32:55,166
who are imprisoned,
or is he just dancing
with the media
562
00:32:55,166 --> 00:32:58,634
because he wants
the limelight to be
focused on him?
563
00:33:00,367 --> 00:33:05,000
[Jeff] Now, the focus turns
to Laverne Pavlinac
and John Sosnovske
564
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,100
who're sitting in prison.
565
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:08,329
[Joey] Remember
Laverne Pavlinac,
566
00:33:08,329 --> 00:33:08,700
[Joey] Remember
Laverne Pavlinac,
567
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:10,500
she confessed
that she was there
568
00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:14,600
when her boyfriend
John Sosnovske
killed Taunja Bennett.
569
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,867
Though she recanted
her confession at trial,
570
00:33:16,867 --> 00:33:20,367
she was convicted,
and they had both been
in prison for four years.
571
00:33:22,266 --> 00:33:24,500
[Jeff] It was almost
unbelievable.
572
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:28,600
You have a serial killer
confessing to a crime
that two people
573
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,533
are sitting in jail for
right now.
574
00:33:31,533 --> 00:33:33,500
[Alafair] You have a case
where you have
575
00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:38,329
three people
all taking responsibility
for a crime.
576
00:33:38,329 --> 00:33:39,467
three people
all taking responsibility
for a crime.
577
00:33:39,467 --> 00:33:43,066
No one seemed to have
coerced or lead their
confessions,
578
00:33:43,066 --> 00:33:46,900
they all seem to have
information that only
the killer would know.
579
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:50,800
You normally have zero people
claiming responsibility.
580
00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:56,100
I would say one of my
greatest nightmares
in taking a job
581
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:58,166
as a Deputy District Attorney
582
00:33:58,166 --> 00:34:00,900
is the idea of convicting
an innocent person.
583
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:07,533
[Alafair] There was also
the possibility that Jesperson
could have been involved,
584
00:34:07,533 --> 00:34:08,329
but he could've done it
with Laverne and John.
585
00:34:08,329 --> 00:34:11,367
but he could've done it
with Laverne and John.
586
00:34:11,367 --> 00:34:14,266
You've really
got to be confident
you're getting it right
587
00:34:14,266 --> 00:34:16,166
before you let two people
who have been convicted
588
00:34:16,166 --> 00:34:17,734
of murder out.
589
00:34:17,734 --> 00:34:19,867
I could see
the district attorneys
590
00:34:19,867 --> 00:34:23,266
who had prosecuted
Laverne and John.
591
00:34:23,266 --> 00:34:26,967
I could see them struggling
with "how did this happen?"
592
00:34:26,967 --> 00:34:31,367
It's every prosecutor's
worst nightmare is that you
convict an innocent person.
593
00:34:31,367 --> 00:34:33,800
And here, they didn't even
do anything wrong.
594
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,500
They were kind of
asking themselves,
"Should we have known?
595
00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:38,266
Were there warning signs
here?"
596
00:34:38,266 --> 00:34:38,329
And they couldn't
really find any.
597
00:34:38,329 --> 00:34:39,900
And they couldn't
really find any.
598
00:34:41,266 --> 00:34:45,066
I just think, there was
in some sense,
599
00:34:45,066 --> 00:34:48,867
just the overriding concern
600
00:34:48,867 --> 00:34:53,367
that we have got to get
Laverne Pavlinac
and John Sosnovske out,
601
00:34:53,367 --> 00:34:58,367
because the more I learned,
the more I believed they
were not responsible,
602
00:34:58,367 --> 00:35:01,333
and that's an injustice
that has to be corrected.
603
00:35:10,467 --> 00:35:15,000
[Judge Keith] My immediate
thought when I heard that
we have two people in jail,
604
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,734
on long sentences,
Laverne Pavlinac
and John Sosnovske,
605
00:35:19,734 --> 00:35:25,266
and at the very least,
we don't have proof beyond
a reasonable doubt anymore,
606
00:35:26,367 --> 00:35:28,433
and we've got to act
to get them out.
607
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,000
[Alafair] It's actually
a lot harder to get
608
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,533
an innocent person
out of custody than
you would think.
609
00:35:34,533 --> 00:35:37,266
This was a case where
the district attorney's office
610
00:35:37,266 --> 00:35:38,856
was agreeing
to vacate the convictions,
611
00:35:38,856 --> 00:35:40,000
was agreeing
to vacate the convictions,
612
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,867
but you still need
a legal basis for it.
613
00:35:41,867 --> 00:35:44,166
It took months to investigate
614
00:35:44,166 --> 00:35:47,467
to the point
that law enforcement
became convinced
615
00:35:47,467 --> 00:35:51,734
that Laverne and John
were completely uninvolved
in this.
616
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:58,867
[Jeff] Laverne Pavlinac
and John Sosnovske
are released from jail.
617
00:36:00,533 --> 00:36:01,634
Hi!
618
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,367
-You look nice.
-[cries]
619
00:36:04,367 --> 00:36:06,734
[Gianola] Laverne Pavlinac
was a troubled woman
620
00:36:06,734 --> 00:36:08,856
when you look back
at her past.
621
00:36:08,856 --> 00:36:08,867
when you look back
at her past.
622
00:36:08,867 --> 00:36:13,166
I mean, to falsely confess
to the rape and murder
of a young woman
623
00:36:13,166 --> 00:36:15,100
so she could get out
of what she called
624
00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:18,166
an abusive relationship
with her boyfriend.
625
00:36:20,367 --> 00:36:24,634
That false confession
completely derailed
626
00:36:25,467 --> 00:36:26,967
the investigation.
627
00:36:44,533 --> 00:36:49,100
I can only think that
you'd have to be really
desperate to do something
628
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:53,634
this outlandish.
629
00:36:53,634 --> 00:36:57,467
In putting yourself even
in peril and implicating
yourself in some
630
00:36:57,467 --> 00:36:59,967
very grotesque activity
and violent activity.
631
00:36:59,967 --> 00:37:04,800
And she did claim many times
that John Sosnovske
was abusive with her.
632
00:37:29,634 --> 00:37:34,266
She lost her liberty
for years because of it,
and this guy got away with it.
633
00:37:34,266 --> 00:37:36,433
The real killer
got away with it for years.
634
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:44,000
[Jeff] You have to ask
yourself, how many other
women died
635
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,533
because of that false
confession.
636
00:37:46,533 --> 00:37:49,367
[Casey] You would think
that Keith Jesperson's
confession,
637
00:37:49,367 --> 00:37:54,266
those letters to the media,
to the courthouse,
the letter to his brother,
638
00:37:54,266 --> 00:37:56,100
in which he confesses
to these murders,
639
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:58,467
you would think
that would be enough
for police to go forward,
640
00:37:58,467 --> 00:38:00,266
but they run forensic
evidence.
641
00:38:00,266 --> 00:38:02,166
They need
to make absolutely sure
642
00:38:02,166 --> 00:38:04,700
that Keith Jesperson
is not also giving them
643
00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:08,467
a false confession
just for the media exposure.
644
00:38:08,467 --> 00:38:08,856
They match the handwriting
with a handwriting analyst,
645
00:38:08,856 --> 00:38:11,266
They match the handwriting
with a handwriting analyst,
646
00:38:11,266 --> 00:38:15,000
they check the fingerprints
and the saliva on
the envelopes
647
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,367
in which the letters
were sent,
648
00:38:16,367 --> 00:38:20,467
and yes, it all matches
Keith Jesperson.
649
00:38:20,467 --> 00:38:25,734
[Monty] Eventually
we were able to tie Jesperson
to eight victims.
650
00:38:25,734 --> 00:38:29,634
At the time,
some of the victims were
unidentified by the agency.
651
00:38:29,634 --> 00:38:32,634
In one particular case,
they didn't even know
they had a victim.
652
00:38:35,867 --> 00:38:38,856
Keith Jesperson is a classic
power control serial killer,
653
00:38:38,856 --> 00:38:39,700
Keith Jesperson is a classic
power control serial killer,
654
00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:42,533
and it is the most common
type of serial killer,
655
00:38:42,533 --> 00:38:45,000
people who feel
stripped of their power
656
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,734
and very often
their masculinity.
657
00:38:47,634 --> 00:38:51,533
They need to have a sense
of playing God.
658
00:38:51,533 --> 00:38:56,000
And nothing is more typical
of a power control killer
than strangulation.
659
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,533
Why? He's not trying
to kill her.
660
00:38:58,533 --> 00:39:01,000
He's trying to have power
over her.
661
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:06,166
He wants to be admired
by how he was so successful
at being "Happy Face Killer,"
662
00:39:06,166 --> 00:39:08,856
a serial killer,
and killing all these women.
663
00:39:08,856 --> 00:39:09,867
a serial killer,
and killing all these women.
664
00:39:09,867 --> 00:39:14,100
Keith Jesperson
was very good about
remembering all the details
665
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:17,533
about how he killed someone,
where he left the body,
666
00:39:17,533 --> 00:39:21,467
But he often got their names
wrong or mixed up their names,
667
00:39:21,467 --> 00:39:23,433
and I thought
that was chilling.
668
00:39:45,533 --> 00:39:48,000
[Jeff] These people
were daughters,
669
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,100
in some cases mothers,
and that can never be
forgotten
670
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:56,266
because that points
to just how heinous these
crimes were,
671
00:39:56,266 --> 00:40:02,000
and that a monster
is finally put away
for these crimes.
672
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,734
[Michelle] I can't even put
into words how you feel
about
673
00:40:05,734 --> 00:40:07,266
somebody that killed
your sister.
674
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:08,856
She was just a kind person
675
00:40:08,856 --> 00:40:10,967
She was just a kind person
676
00:40:10,967 --> 00:40:13,867
that always was kind
to everybody.
677
00:40:13,867 --> 00:40:15,166
She paid attention
to everybody,
678
00:40:15,166 --> 00:40:16,900
wanted to be
everybody's friend.
679
00:40:18,634 --> 00:40:20,066
It's hard...
680
00:40:20,634 --> 00:40:22,066
'cause she's not here no more.
681
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:30,266
[Don] My mom wasn't just
a transient or whatever
the media
682
00:40:30,266 --> 00:40:31,266
has made her out to be,
683
00:40:31,266 --> 00:40:34,533
she was a kind, loving soul,
684
00:40:34,533 --> 00:40:38,856
and... tried to stay positive
and didn't want to hurt
anybody.
685
00:40:38,856 --> 00:40:40,000
and... tried to stay positive
and didn't want to hurt
anybody.
686
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,266
She just wanted to be peaceful
and do her journey.
687
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:46,600
We lost a good person.
688
00:40:50,367 --> 00:40:54,100
[Monty] Keith Jesperson
is very proud of the crimes
that he's committed.
689
00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:55,734
He likes that recognition.
690
00:40:55,734 --> 00:40:58,634
He wants to be a serial killer
because he wants to be able
691
00:40:58,634 --> 00:41:02,166
to be well known
amongst everybody
692
00:41:02,166 --> 00:41:05,000
as being
a notorious serial killer.
693
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,856
Without that, Keith Jesperson
would be a nobody.
694
00:41:08,856 --> 00:41:09,000
Without that, Keith Jesperson
would be a nobody.
695
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,734
[Keith in interview]
I am the Happy Face Killer.
696
00:41:10,734 --> 00:41:13,166
-[man] There's no doubt?
-There is no doubt in my mind.
697
00:41:13,166 --> 00:41:14,634
[Keith laughs]
698
00:41:16,166 --> 00:41:21,367
Keith Jesperson has been
linked to eight murders
between 1990 to 1995.
699
00:41:21,367 --> 00:41:23,734
He's serving multiple
consecutive life sentences
700
00:41:23,734 --> 00:41:26,000
in the Oregon State
Penitentiary,
701
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,634
without the possibility
of parole.
702
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On April 13th 2022,
one of his Jane Doe victims
was identified
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as Patricia Skiple.
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She is believed to be
his fifth victim.
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Her identification
was made possible
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Her identification
was made possible
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by advancements
in DNA technology.
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Skiple's family is grateful
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she finally has her name back.
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Two other victims,
one in California
and one in Florida,
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are still on unidentified.
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I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
Thanks for watching.
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Good night.