1 00:00:01,896 --> 00:00:03,137 [suspenseful music playing] 2 00:00:05,482 --> 00:00:07,000 [Jeri] I was scared to death. 3 00:00:07,793 --> 00:00:09,275 I was totally alone 4 00:00:09,275 --> 00:00:12,896 and I just didn't know what else to do. 5 00:00:12,896 --> 00:00:16,275 I could just imagine Dana coming after me. 6 00:00:16,275 --> 00:00:19,689 So I got my husband Russell's gun... 7 00:00:19,689 --> 00:00:21,103 [gun cocking] 8 00:00:21,103 --> 00:00:22,862 [Jeri] ...and waited. 9 00:00:22,931 --> 00:00:24,689 I kept an eye on the two doors 10 00:00:24,689 --> 00:00:27,172 that you could enter from the street. 11 00:00:27,172 --> 00:00:29,000 If she came through one door, 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,482 I was gonna run out the other. 13 00:00:31,482 --> 00:00:33,517 And if I couldn't get out, 14 00:00:34,896 --> 00:00:37,206 last choice would've been a gun. 15 00:00:39,172 --> 00:00:42,758 [theme music playing] 16 00:01:09,689 --> 00:01:11,896 Welcome to Very Scary People. 17 00:01:11,896 --> 00:01:13,965 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 18 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,586 In 1994, 19 00:01:15,586 --> 00:01:17,793 a vicious killer targets vulnerable women 20 00:01:17,793 --> 00:01:20,379 in a gated California community. 21 00:01:20,379 --> 00:01:22,862 But unlike most serial killer cases, 22 00:01:22,931 --> 00:01:26,034 these gruesome crimes are committed by a woman, 23 00:01:26,103 --> 00:01:27,379 not a man. 24 00:01:27,379 --> 00:01:29,965 A woman driven by hate, greed, 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,758 and a thirst for blood. 26 00:01:31,827 --> 00:01:35,344 This is the Angel of Death. 27 00:01:35,413 --> 00:01:38,517 [suspenseful music playing] 28 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,793 I was, uh, at the Perris Police Department 29 00:01:49,793 --> 00:01:51,758 working in the detective bureau 30 00:01:51,827 --> 00:01:54,034 when my sergeant came in, 31 00:01:54,103 --> 00:01:56,758 told me that there was a dead body 32 00:01:56,827 --> 00:01:59,172 up in the Canyon Lake area. 33 00:01:59,172 --> 00:02:02,689 Canyon Lake is a gated community, 34 00:02:02,689 --> 00:02:05,172 it's an affluent area, million-dollar homes, 35 00:02:05,172 --> 00:02:06,689 and it's a good drive. 36 00:02:06,689 --> 00:02:09,655 It's about a 15, 20-minute drive. 37 00:02:11,724 --> 00:02:15,103 Once I got to the scene, when I first saw the victim, 38 00:02:16,379 --> 00:02:18,000 it was shocking. 39 00:02:19,172 --> 00:02:21,275 I wondered who would do something like this 40 00:02:21,275 --> 00:02:23,000 to an 87-year-old woman. 41 00:02:25,517 --> 00:02:28,275 Norma Davis was seated 42 00:02:28,275 --> 00:02:31,000 in a golden recliner 43 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,172 and she had a knife coming out of her chest, 44 00:02:33,172 --> 00:02:35,586 and one out of the right side of her neck. 45 00:02:35,586 --> 00:02:37,862 So when they rolled the head back, 46 00:02:37,931 --> 00:02:39,206 the head almost came off. 47 00:02:40,379 --> 00:02:42,137 We checked the knives 48 00:02:42,206 --> 00:02:44,482 and determined that they had come 49 00:02:44,482 --> 00:02:46,655 from the butcher block down in the kitchen. 50 00:02:48,206 --> 00:02:50,172 [Elissa Mayo] And we noticed that there was a telephone cord 51 00:02:50,172 --> 00:02:51,482 under the body, 52 00:02:51,482 --> 00:02:52,793 so we could see that 53 00:02:52,793 --> 00:02:55,517 somehow that that might be involved as well. 54 00:02:57,413 --> 00:03:00,586 [Greco] It definitely looked rageful to me. 55 00:03:00,586 --> 00:03:03,000 Then you start processing in your mind, 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,965 how was the killer doing this? 57 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,000 And what they teach you in profiling 58 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,172 is the more injuries that are violent 59 00:03:09,172 --> 00:03:11,275 and closer to the face, 60 00:03:11,275 --> 00:03:12,896 it's more of a passion thing, 61 00:03:12,896 --> 00:03:16,275 so the closer the relationship to the victim. 62 00:03:16,275 --> 00:03:19,344 You can't really make any assumptions at that point, 63 00:03:19,413 --> 00:03:21,482 but you start thinking, "Okay. Is... 64 00:03:21,482 --> 00:03:24,379 It could be family-related." 65 00:03:24,379 --> 00:03:26,793 [Donnie] As police process the crime scene, 66 00:03:26,793 --> 00:03:28,862 Norma's former daughter-in-law, 67 00:03:28,931 --> 00:03:30,000 Jeri Armbrust 68 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,310 arrives with her husband, Russell. 69 00:03:33,413 --> 00:03:36,413 When I was told that Nana had died, it was... 70 00:03:37,620 --> 00:03:40,000 It was not believable. 71 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,000 It was just something that happened to other people. 72 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,413 I couldn't really comprehend that she was gone. 73 00:03:48,724 --> 00:03:49,896 I called her Mom, 74 00:03:49,896 --> 00:03:51,655 everyone else called her Nana, 75 00:03:51,724 --> 00:03:53,620 but to me, she was Mom. 76 00:03:54,620 --> 00:03:58,103 The police asked lots of questions about Nana. 77 00:03:58,103 --> 00:04:00,655 And I had really no answers. 78 00:04:00,724 --> 00:04:04,689 I couldn't imagine how this would've happened. 79 00:04:04,689 --> 00:04:07,413 I noticed that Jeri was wearing these Nike shoes. 80 00:04:08,724 --> 00:04:12,586 We were able to pick up a dust Nike shoe print 81 00:04:12,586 --> 00:04:14,000 from the house. 82 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,931 The shoe print was a size 6. 83 00:04:16,827 --> 00:04:18,586 Jeri was a caretaker. 84 00:04:18,586 --> 00:04:21,172 She was the last person to see the victim alive. 85 00:04:21,172 --> 00:04:23,034 That definitely stood out. 86 00:04:23,103 --> 00:04:26,172 I thought maybe she was the one that killed her. 87 00:04:26,172 --> 00:04:29,448 [Jeri] I noticed them looking at me sort of strangely, 88 00:04:29,517 --> 00:04:31,517 but I didn't think anything of it. 89 00:04:32,413 --> 00:04:34,586 [Donnie] Detective Greco believes Norma 90 00:04:34,586 --> 00:04:36,482 knew her killer. 91 00:04:36,482 --> 00:04:37,793 He wants to know more about 92 00:04:37,793 --> 00:04:39,758 Jeri's relationship with Norma 93 00:04:39,827 --> 00:04:42,448 to see if she or someone in her family 94 00:04:42,517 --> 00:04:43,517 could've killed her. 95 00:04:44,517 --> 00:04:48,448 Russell, my husband, and I were separated 96 00:04:48,517 --> 00:04:51,241 and each of us interrogated separately. 97 00:04:51,310 --> 00:04:53,275 They went over to my daughter, 98 00:04:53,275 --> 00:04:55,586 my son in Hollywood, 99 00:04:55,586 --> 00:04:57,517 my son in Huntington Beach. 100 00:04:58,275 --> 00:04:59,793 My family at that point 101 00:04:59,793 --> 00:05:04,448 included my husband, Russell's daughter, Dana, 102 00:05:04,517 --> 00:05:05,896 who was a nurse. 103 00:05:05,896 --> 00:05:08,448 Detective Greco immediately discounted that 104 00:05:08,517 --> 00:05:10,448 because he had a sister who was a nurse 105 00:05:10,517 --> 00:05:14,448 and he knew that nurses could not possibly be involved 106 00:05:14,517 --> 00:05:17,241 in something as horrendous as this. 107 00:05:17,310 --> 00:05:19,965 [dramatic music playing] 108 00:05:21,793 --> 00:05:26,689 [Donnie] But Detective Greco has no idea how wrong he is. 109 00:05:26,689 --> 00:05:29,137 Because 37 years earlier, 110 00:05:29,206 --> 00:05:32,931 a killer was born into Jeri's extended family. 111 00:05:33,896 --> 00:05:38,000 Russell met Dana's mother, who was a beauty queen, 112 00:05:39,172 --> 00:05:41,793 and she must have been a beautiful person 113 00:05:41,793 --> 00:05:43,275 on the outside, 114 00:05:43,275 --> 00:05:46,586 but she had really big problems on the inside. 115 00:05:46,586 --> 00:05:48,965 But he did marry her anyway. 116 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,275 He was delighted when they had their little child, 117 00:05:51,275 --> 00:05:52,758 little Dana. 118 00:05:52,827 --> 00:05:55,551 He doted on her from the time she was born. 119 00:05:55,620 --> 00:05:58,379 [Dr. Leslie Dobson] Dana Sue Gray who was raised with money. 120 00:05:58,379 --> 00:06:01,344 She was raised in a culture and an... A community 121 00:06:01,413 --> 00:06:04,482 where it was expected that you had money. 122 00:06:04,482 --> 00:06:06,689 [dramatic music playing] 123 00:06:06,689 --> 00:06:10,034 [Jeri] Russell was running several beauty shops. 124 00:06:10,103 --> 00:06:12,275 He would have to hide the money in the beauty shops 125 00:06:12,275 --> 00:06:13,793 because Beverly would come in 126 00:06:13,793 --> 00:06:15,862 and take it out of the cash drawer. 127 00:06:15,931 --> 00:06:20,068 She spent money on clothes and beauty products, 128 00:06:20,068 --> 00:06:22,896 and health products, and just loved to spend. 129 00:06:22,896 --> 00:06:25,620 Didn't seem to matter what she spent the money on. 130 00:06:26,275 --> 00:06:28,896 She was active in Scientology, 131 00:06:28,896 --> 00:06:31,793 she used a lot of her money on the courses, 132 00:06:31,793 --> 00:06:34,793 and that drained a lot of her personal funds. 133 00:06:34,793 --> 00:06:37,068 When Dana was around two or three years old, 134 00:06:37,068 --> 00:06:39,241 her parents divorced. 135 00:06:39,310 --> 00:06:41,551 [Jeri] Russell told me that the reason 136 00:06:41,620 --> 00:06:45,000 that he and Beverly divorced was adultery. 137 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,965 He would get calls from the neighbors 138 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,793 telling him that there was another car there that day. 139 00:06:50,793 --> 00:06:54,241 And her father did stay in her life supporting her. 140 00:06:54,310 --> 00:06:56,793 She had him wrapped around her little finger. 141 00:06:56,793 --> 00:06:59,000 He believed anything she told him. 142 00:07:00,586 --> 00:07:02,793 And he would've done anything for her. 143 00:07:02,793 --> 00:07:05,689 In the Dana Sue Gray case, 144 00:07:05,689 --> 00:07:10,034 I was requested to conduct an evaluation 145 00:07:10,103 --> 00:07:12,448 by the district attorney. 146 00:07:12,517 --> 00:07:15,172 Dana grew up largely 147 00:07:15,172 --> 00:07:17,965 in her mother's home. 148 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,586 Mother was very fickle. 149 00:07:20,586 --> 00:07:23,000 It was all about herself. 150 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,827 And so she did not have an easy life. 151 00:07:27,586 --> 00:07:29,689 Growing up around so much money 152 00:07:29,689 --> 00:07:33,000 is going to start building a person who is very entitled. 153 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,103 And with a narcissistic mother, 154 00:07:35,103 --> 00:07:38,000 we know that that usually is genetic. 155 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,655 So we're starting to build this entitlement of life. 156 00:07:41,724 --> 00:07:44,172 She's always gotten what she's wanted. 157 00:07:44,172 --> 00:07:46,034 [Jeri] Dana's relationship with her mom 158 00:07:46,103 --> 00:07:48,000 was contentious, to say the least. 159 00:07:48,931 --> 00:07:53,586 She often told us that her mom had said to her, 160 00:07:53,586 --> 00:07:56,379 "Well, I do love you, but I don't like you." 161 00:07:56,379 --> 00:08:00,448 That was a point of resentment on Dana's part, 162 00:08:00,517 --> 00:08:05,413 why her mother is not giving her attention. 163 00:08:06,103 --> 00:08:08,965 At one point, there had been a conflict 164 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,586 with the mother 165 00:08:10,586 --> 00:08:13,862 in which Dana went and took scissors 166 00:08:13,931 --> 00:08:17,827 and cut holes in her mother's favorite dress. 167 00:08:18,586 --> 00:08:23,137 We see that kind of behavior often in people 168 00:08:23,206 --> 00:08:25,000 who are sadistic. 169 00:08:25,517 --> 00:08:28,896 If you haven't hurt the person, 170 00:08:28,896 --> 00:08:32,137 you damage something that's important to them. 171 00:08:34,103 --> 00:08:36,068 [Donnie] When Dana is a teenager, 172 00:08:36,068 --> 00:08:38,275 her mother develops breast cancer. 173 00:08:38,275 --> 00:08:40,103 Despite the doctors and nurses 174 00:08:40,103 --> 00:08:42,034 doing everything they can, 175 00:08:42,103 --> 00:08:45,172 her mother dies in 1975. 176 00:08:45,172 --> 00:08:48,275 When her mother passed away and gave all of the money 177 00:08:48,275 --> 00:08:50,758 to Scientology and not to Dana, 178 00:08:50,827 --> 00:08:54,068 I can imagine there was a growing desire 179 00:08:54,068 --> 00:08:57,965 to retaliate and harm those who then had money. 180 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,103 That was a really bad time in her life. 181 00:09:01,103 --> 00:09:04,862 She came to live with Russell and his then wife. 182 00:09:04,931 --> 00:09:08,862 Dana starts to distract her emotions 183 00:09:08,931 --> 00:09:12,862 with risk-taking, dangerous things. 184 00:09:12,931 --> 00:09:15,586 [Tim] She was living a fast life. 185 00:09:15,586 --> 00:09:17,793 Skydiving, wave surfing, 186 00:09:17,793 --> 00:09:20,655 swimming, appealing to a lot of men. 187 00:09:20,724 --> 00:09:23,931 She had a devil-may-care attitude that they liked. 188 00:09:24,689 --> 00:09:26,862 I remember one time, they had a picture 189 00:09:26,931 --> 00:09:30,068 that showed her skydiving at the Grand Canyon in a... 190 00:09:30,068 --> 00:09:33,344 in a circle holding hands with the other skydivers, 191 00:09:33,413 --> 00:09:36,241 which was completely illegal to do at the time, 192 00:09:36,310 --> 00:09:37,551 but that's Dana. 193 00:09:38,206 --> 00:09:41,103 [Rogers] But she apparently was very bright. 194 00:09:41,931 --> 00:09:44,793 She graduated from high school 195 00:09:44,793 --> 00:09:48,551 and completed a nursing degree. 196 00:09:49,689 --> 00:09:52,931 [dramatic music playing] 197 00:09:53,793 --> 00:09:57,655 [Jeri] I married Russell when I was, I think, 48, 198 00:09:57,724 --> 00:09:59,689 which seems very young now. 199 00:09:59,689 --> 00:10:02,172 Dana and her father got along quite well. 200 00:10:02,172 --> 00:10:04,551 So I had a picture of her as a person 201 00:10:04,620 --> 00:10:06,517 who loved her dad a great deal. 202 00:10:07,517 --> 00:10:09,965 The first time I met Dana, 203 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,896 she was really upbeat, 204 00:10:11,896 --> 00:10:14,137 jivey kind of a gal. 205 00:10:14,206 --> 00:10:18,103 She just exuded energy. 206 00:10:18,103 --> 00:10:20,793 [Donnie] Dana works for a few years as a nurse. 207 00:10:20,793 --> 00:10:23,103 And then in 1987, 208 00:10:23,103 --> 00:10:24,965 she gets married. 209 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,448 Dana married William Gray. 210 00:10:28,517 --> 00:10:30,275 William was in a band 211 00:10:30,275 --> 00:10:33,793 and Dana sang in it sometimes. 212 00:10:33,793 --> 00:10:37,862 And they did wedding related photography 213 00:10:37,931 --> 00:10:40,034 and other services. 214 00:10:40,103 --> 00:10:42,172 Dana and her husband seemed happy. 215 00:10:42,172 --> 00:10:45,379 At the very outset, Russell said to Bill, 216 00:10:45,379 --> 00:10:48,689 he said, "You are going to have to sit on my daughter. 217 00:10:48,689 --> 00:10:51,275 She'll run right over you if you don't." 218 00:10:51,275 --> 00:10:53,724 [Donnie] Dana and William honeymoon in Hawaii. 219 00:10:55,896 --> 00:10:58,896 It's there, in that sunny place, 220 00:10:58,896 --> 00:11:02,896 that William sees his wife's dark side for the first time. 221 00:11:02,896 --> 00:11:04,103 She was on shore 222 00:11:04,103 --> 00:11:09,034 and he was in a very dangerous situation. 223 00:11:12,413 --> 00:11:16,517 She sees that he is drowning, he's calling out for help. 224 00:11:18,206 --> 00:11:22,551 He can't tread water, he can't take control. 225 00:11:22,620 --> 00:11:24,482 Instead, she swims out to him 226 00:11:24,482 --> 00:11:27,827 and she takes the board and brings it back to shore. 227 00:11:29,379 --> 00:11:31,482 And she sits there and watches him. 228 00:11:31,482 --> 00:11:33,275 She could let him die 229 00:11:33,275 --> 00:11:35,586 or she could let him live. 230 00:11:35,586 --> 00:11:39,931 And I think Dana started to realize that this is fun. 231 00:11:51,068 --> 00:11:53,517 [suspenseful music playing] 232 00:11:56,172 --> 00:11:58,931 [Donnie] As he struggles to save himself from drowning, 233 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,379 William Gray realizes that his new wife, Dana, 234 00:12:02,379 --> 00:12:05,896 seems to have no interest in rescuing him. 235 00:12:05,896 --> 00:12:10,344 If Dana is psychopathic, I think in that moment, 236 00:12:10,413 --> 00:12:14,137 that was a very curious, exciting time for her 237 00:12:14,206 --> 00:12:17,931 because she had all of the power and control. 238 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,448 [Tim] He had to make his way to a buoy 239 00:12:20,517 --> 00:12:22,551 and then pull himself in on the rope. 240 00:12:23,689 --> 00:12:25,482 [Jeri] And he said, "Why didn't you help me? 241 00:12:25,482 --> 00:12:27,275 I needed help." 242 00:12:27,275 --> 00:12:30,241 She said, "Well, I knew you could do it." 243 00:12:30,310 --> 00:12:32,655 [Donnie] Dana and William's honeymoon period 244 00:12:32,724 --> 00:12:34,344 fizzles out fast, 245 00:12:34,413 --> 00:12:37,103 and not just because of the near drowning incident. 246 00:12:38,172 --> 00:12:41,827 [dramatic music playing] 247 00:12:43,517 --> 00:12:47,482 [Tim] In the early 1990s, the economy crashed 248 00:12:47,482 --> 00:12:52,206 and their finances fell badly. 249 00:12:53,586 --> 00:12:55,448 [Rogers] They had bought a house. 250 00:12:55,517 --> 00:13:00,448 They ended up taking a second and a third mortgage out. 251 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,862 [Tim] They were underwater on their mortgage. 252 00:13:04,862 --> 00:13:07,586 They had maxed out their credit cards. 253 00:13:07,586 --> 00:13:09,896 Bill had very little to say in their marriage. 254 00:13:09,896 --> 00:13:13,000 Dana made the decisions and she acted them out. 255 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,413 [Rogers] She always liked to have the best things. 256 00:13:18,586 --> 00:13:20,482 [Dobson] What Dana did model was 257 00:13:20,482 --> 00:13:23,241 a mother who was a shopping addict, 258 00:13:23,310 --> 00:13:26,241 a mother who was in love with herself. 259 00:13:27,586 --> 00:13:29,482 I think the core of it 260 00:13:29,482 --> 00:13:32,482 was that she wanted to impress people 261 00:13:32,482 --> 00:13:35,103 and be similar to those amongst her, 262 00:13:35,103 --> 00:13:37,000 like her mother had. 263 00:13:37,068 --> 00:13:40,344 So, it didn't matter if she didn't have the money. 264 00:13:40,413 --> 00:13:42,689 It was more important that she had the image. 265 00:13:42,689 --> 00:13:44,448 [dramatic music playing] 266 00:13:44,517 --> 00:13:47,000 [Jeri] So, they had to rely on Dana's salary. 267 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,586 And so Dana worked two shifts day after day, after day, 268 00:13:51,586 --> 00:13:55,068 to the point that Russell was worried about her health. 269 00:13:55,068 --> 00:13:57,655 It made their life very difficult, 270 00:13:57,724 --> 00:13:58,793 very stressful. 271 00:13:59,379 --> 00:14:02,103 [Rogers] There's a lot of fighting. 272 00:14:02,103 --> 00:14:05,827 And she did have two miscarriages with him, 273 00:14:06,620 --> 00:14:09,103 and that was a big disappointment. 274 00:14:10,172 --> 00:14:12,275 [Donnie] Their relationship is strained. 275 00:14:12,275 --> 00:14:15,000 Their marriage is already on thin ice, 276 00:14:16,172 --> 00:14:19,482 and Dana's eyes start to wander. 277 00:14:19,482 --> 00:14:21,379 [Jeri] Bill always had a band. 278 00:14:21,379 --> 00:14:24,379 And in that band, there was a particular man 279 00:14:24,379 --> 00:14:27,000 that Dana seemed to be interested in. 280 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,758 She gravitated towards this other man 281 00:14:29,827 --> 00:14:31,206 who had a child. 282 00:14:32,517 --> 00:14:34,551 Bill became jealous. 283 00:14:34,620 --> 00:14:37,379 Bill finally put his foot down, 284 00:14:37,379 --> 00:14:40,551 and somehow it resulted in Dana leaving 285 00:14:40,620 --> 00:14:42,862 and going to live with the other man. 286 00:14:42,862 --> 00:14:44,275 [dramatic music playing] 287 00:14:44,275 --> 00:14:46,931 Dana moved in with the man 288 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,137 that she was having the affair with 289 00:14:49,206 --> 00:14:52,344 and his young son in a mobile home 290 00:14:52,413 --> 00:14:54,103 south of Lake Elsinore. 291 00:14:54,103 --> 00:14:57,482 [dramatic music playing] 292 00:14:57,482 --> 00:14:59,896 [Tim] Beginning in 1994, 293 00:14:59,896 --> 00:15:02,103 Dana's life was very much different. 294 00:15:02,103 --> 00:15:03,655 [suspenseful music playing] 295 00:15:03,724 --> 00:15:06,172 [Rogers] She got into opioids 296 00:15:06,172 --> 00:15:09,758 and she had stolen meds from patients 297 00:15:09,758 --> 00:15:13,551 and deprived them of their meds 298 00:15:13,620 --> 00:15:16,241 when they were in a lot of pain. 299 00:15:16,310 --> 00:15:20,000 So ultimately, she lost her job. 300 00:15:20,068 --> 00:15:24,000 And so she didn't have that income 301 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,724 coming in anymore. 302 00:15:26,620 --> 00:15:28,758 [Tim] She had moved from a nice home 303 00:15:28,758 --> 00:15:30,310 in Canyon Lake 304 00:15:30,965 --> 00:15:32,551 to a mobile home 305 00:15:32,620 --> 00:15:35,551 in a deteriorating part of Wildomar. 306 00:15:35,620 --> 00:15:38,482 And she was living with a young child 307 00:15:38,482 --> 00:15:41,655 and she was financially dependent. 308 00:15:41,724 --> 00:15:43,000 [Jeri] She was making curtains 309 00:15:43,068 --> 00:15:45,482 for this dilapidated mobile home 310 00:15:45,482 --> 00:15:46,758 that he lived in. 311 00:15:46,827 --> 00:15:47,931 It was sad, 312 00:15:48,310 --> 00:15:49,965 not what she was used to. 313 00:15:49,965 --> 00:15:52,896 Dana was used to having only the finest. 314 00:15:52,896 --> 00:15:54,758 [dramatic music playing] 315 00:15:54,827 --> 00:15:58,310 [Tim] Dana was drowning her sorrows in alcohol. 316 00:16:00,068 --> 00:16:03,655 [Donnie] Dana is spiraling and needs help. 317 00:16:03,724 --> 00:16:06,482 But she knows that if it's money she wants, 318 00:16:06,482 --> 00:16:09,758 she might have better luck asking Jeri than her father. 319 00:16:11,310 --> 00:16:14,827 [Jeri] I was Dana's stepmother, legally. 320 00:16:14,896 --> 00:16:18,586 Dana and her dad, Russell, were very, very close, 321 00:16:18,586 --> 00:16:21,793 and he would do anything he could for her. 322 00:16:21,793 --> 00:16:26,275 But he had told me, "Don't ever loan Dana money." 323 00:16:26,275 --> 00:16:27,965 She was totally out of money, 324 00:16:27,965 --> 00:16:30,103 totally broke all the time. 325 00:16:30,103 --> 00:16:34,068 I said, "It sounds to me as if there's drugs involved." 326 00:16:34,068 --> 00:16:35,896 But Russell didn't believe it. 327 00:16:35,896 --> 00:16:37,275 [suspenseful music playing] 328 00:16:37,275 --> 00:16:39,172 [Jeri] Dana was talking about 329 00:16:39,172 --> 00:16:42,517 how she wanted a better living situation. 330 00:16:43,793 --> 00:16:46,551 So I said, "Maybe we could work something out 331 00:16:46,620 --> 00:16:47,448 with the condo." 332 00:16:48,689 --> 00:16:50,000 [Donnie] Jeri had recently bought 333 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,551 her former mother-in-law, 334 00:16:51,620 --> 00:16:53,551 Norma, a new condo. 335 00:16:54,689 --> 00:16:57,655 [Jeri] I said, "Well, if Mom doesn't mind, 336 00:16:57,724 --> 00:16:59,793 you and your friend and his son 337 00:16:59,793 --> 00:17:02,344 could possibly live there." 338 00:17:02,413 --> 00:17:04,793 At the time, I had thought it might be beneficial 339 00:17:04,793 --> 00:17:07,103 because Mom's health was not great 340 00:17:07,103 --> 00:17:09,931 and a nurse living with her might be a good idea. 341 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,586 [suspenseful music playing] 342 00:17:11,586 --> 00:17:13,344 [Donnie] But moving in with Norma 343 00:17:13,413 --> 00:17:15,758 is the last thing Dana wants to do. 344 00:17:16,275 --> 00:17:17,206 [Rogers] She grew up 345 00:17:17,206 --> 00:17:20,896 as a very entitled kind of person 346 00:17:20,896 --> 00:17:24,000 who generally in whatever situation 347 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,000 she was in thought of herself first. 348 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,379 She was enraged at Norma and Jeri 349 00:17:31,379 --> 00:17:35,586 because she thinks Jeri should give me my own place 350 00:17:35,586 --> 00:17:39,344 and how dare she support this woman. 351 00:17:39,413 --> 00:17:41,000 [upbeat music playing] 352 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,655 [Dobson] I'm struggling. 353 00:17:42,724 --> 00:17:44,965 You are doing this on purpose. 354 00:17:44,965 --> 00:17:47,000 You are a horrible person. 355 00:17:47,068 --> 00:17:48,689 Now, I'm going to hurt you 356 00:17:48,689 --> 00:17:51,586 in one of the worst ways I can imagine. 357 00:17:51,586 --> 00:17:55,241 I think that it was building in her. 358 00:17:55,310 --> 00:17:56,379 We have early signs 359 00:17:56,379 --> 00:17:58,896 of narcissistic personality disorder 360 00:17:58,896 --> 00:18:01,482 and we've got these erratic emotions. 361 00:18:01,482 --> 00:18:04,586 All of this is paired with this growing injustice. 362 00:18:04,586 --> 00:18:07,137 And it was a matter of time 363 00:18:07,206 --> 00:18:10,000 before Dana lost control 364 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,896 of all of these elements 365 00:18:11,896 --> 00:18:14,379 and needed to siphon them 366 00:18:14,379 --> 00:18:18,172 into one attack that would give her the feelings 367 00:18:18,172 --> 00:18:21,275 that would calm all the pain that she had. 368 00:18:21,275 --> 00:18:24,517 [suspenseful music playing] 369 00:18:27,103 --> 00:18:28,758 [Donnie] Dana crosses the line 370 00:18:28,758 --> 00:18:31,482 from an entitled, but nonviolent person 371 00:18:31,482 --> 00:18:34,379 to someone completely unrecognizable. 372 00:18:34,379 --> 00:18:38,172 Dana finds her way to Norma's house. 373 00:18:38,172 --> 00:18:41,482 [suspenseful music playing] 374 00:18:41,482 --> 00:18:43,896 She's enraged with Jeri, 375 00:18:43,896 --> 00:18:48,620 but it's a displacement from Jeri to Norma. 376 00:18:49,758 --> 00:18:53,241 [suspenseful music playing] 377 00:19:02,068 --> 00:19:05,482 [Dobson] And then Dana repeatedly stabs her. 378 00:19:05,482 --> 00:19:08,758 [suspenseful music playing] 379 00:19:08,758 --> 00:19:11,137 She killed her and then kept killing her. 380 00:19:11,482 --> 00:19:13,586 She kept raging on her 381 00:19:13,586 --> 00:19:16,413 and really, really enjoying it, 382 00:19:17,586 --> 00:19:19,482 with every knife and every stab wound 383 00:19:19,482 --> 00:19:21,655 and the near decapitation of Norma. 384 00:19:28,413 --> 00:19:31,586 That has to do with fulfilling Dana's needs 385 00:19:31,586 --> 00:19:33,758 of empowering herself. 386 00:19:33,758 --> 00:19:36,448 [suspenseful music playing] 387 00:19:40,793 --> 00:19:42,344 [door creaking] 388 00:19:45,379 --> 00:19:49,862 [Greco] We found Norma on February 16th, 1994. 389 00:19:49,862 --> 00:19:51,689 The coroner established that the victim 390 00:19:51,689 --> 00:19:53,655 had been dead a couple of days. 391 00:19:53,724 --> 00:19:55,758 Norma Davis was stabbed ten times 392 00:19:55,758 --> 00:19:57,758 and then nearly decapitated. 393 00:19:57,827 --> 00:20:00,068 We feel that it's a personal killing, 394 00:20:00,068 --> 00:20:01,827 but we still have no suspects. 395 00:20:02,965 --> 00:20:05,448 The shoeprint in the doorway 396 00:20:05,517 --> 00:20:07,000 doesn't really give us anything 397 00:20:07,068 --> 00:20:09,896 because if it matched Jeri, 398 00:20:09,896 --> 00:20:11,586 she had access to the house. 399 00:20:11,586 --> 00:20:14,172 She was taking care of Norma. 400 00:20:14,172 --> 00:20:17,655 However, that shoeprint didn't match Jeri. 401 00:20:18,482 --> 00:20:21,068 The shoeprint was submitted to the laboratory. 402 00:20:21,068 --> 00:20:22,758 Analysis was performed, 403 00:20:22,827 --> 00:20:24,000 but none of those analyses 404 00:20:24,068 --> 00:20:26,344 led to any perpetrator. 405 00:20:27,103 --> 00:20:28,482 [Greco] Based on the shoeprint, 406 00:20:28,482 --> 00:20:30,379 we knew that the person had to be 407 00:20:30,379 --> 00:20:32,620 a smaller male or a woman. 408 00:20:33,310 --> 00:20:36,482 [Jeri] I believe that the police 409 00:20:36,482 --> 00:20:38,586 finally eliminated me as a suspect 410 00:20:38,586 --> 00:20:40,689 when they checked the shoe size. 411 00:20:40,689 --> 00:20:42,758 The shoe size was different from mine. 412 00:20:43,689 --> 00:20:45,551 But I pointed out to them, 413 00:20:46,586 --> 00:20:48,620 I loved her, number one. 414 00:20:48,896 --> 00:20:50,206 Number two... 415 00:20:51,896 --> 00:20:54,000 I just couldn't have done such a thing. 416 00:20:58,172 --> 00:21:00,758 Number three, I had no motive. 417 00:21:00,758 --> 00:21:03,000 [Greco] When you see an elderly person 418 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,344 that's murdered that way, 419 00:21:05,413 --> 00:21:08,448 it evokes almost a sick feeling in your... 420 00:21:08,517 --> 00:21:09,689 In the pit of your stomach, 421 00:21:09,689 --> 00:21:12,482 because if that person were to do that 422 00:21:12,482 --> 00:21:15,275 to an 87-year-old, 423 00:21:15,275 --> 00:21:17,758 there's no stopping what that person would do. 424 00:21:17,827 --> 00:21:20,931 [suspenseful music playing] 425 00:21:27,379 --> 00:21:29,379 [Elissa] I don't think any of us were thinking 426 00:21:29,379 --> 00:21:31,586 serial crime at that moment. 427 00:21:31,586 --> 00:21:33,448 We were thinking a singular crime, 428 00:21:33,517 --> 00:21:34,931 which would make more sense. 429 00:21:37,379 --> 00:21:40,620 A random act of violence in a quiet community. 430 00:21:41,896 --> 00:21:43,758 [Greco] And then, two weeks later, 431 00:21:43,827 --> 00:21:47,448 while doing my investigation into the Norma case, 432 00:21:47,517 --> 00:21:50,000 I got another call of another homicide 433 00:21:50,482 --> 00:21:51,896 up in the Canyon Lake area... 434 00:21:51,896 --> 00:21:53,448 -[dispatcher speaking indistinctly] -[siren blares] 435 00:21:53,517 --> 00:21:55,310 [Greco] ...of another elderly female. 436 00:22:03,482 --> 00:22:05,931 [suspenseful music playing] 437 00:22:09,793 --> 00:22:11,793 [Dobson] Dana liked killing Norma 438 00:22:12,482 --> 00:22:14,413 and she wanted to do it again. 439 00:22:14,482 --> 00:22:17,586 [suspenseful music continues] 440 00:22:23,068 --> 00:22:24,275 [Donnie] Dana is babysitting 441 00:22:24,275 --> 00:22:26,620 her boyfriend's five-year-old son 442 00:22:26,689 --> 00:22:29,344 when she puts him in the car and drives to the home 443 00:22:29,344 --> 00:22:32,689 of 66-year-old June Roberts. 444 00:22:34,172 --> 00:22:37,275 June was a part of Jeri, 445 00:22:37,275 --> 00:22:39,310 her stepmother's life, 446 00:22:39,379 --> 00:22:42,103 and also knew Norma. 447 00:22:44,551 --> 00:22:48,000 June Roberts was a very outgoing person. 448 00:22:48,379 --> 00:22:51,206 She liked to golf. 449 00:22:51,896 --> 00:22:54,379 She was very interested in herbs, 450 00:22:54,379 --> 00:22:58,413 so she handled a lot of people's ailments 451 00:22:58,482 --> 00:22:59,931 with her advice. 452 00:23:01,586 --> 00:23:03,827 Dana knew June very well 453 00:23:03,896 --> 00:23:05,827 and she went to see her often, 454 00:23:05,896 --> 00:23:09,172 consulting her about various herbal remedies. 455 00:23:11,482 --> 00:23:14,413 [Donnie] Dana tells the boy to wait in the car. 456 00:23:14,482 --> 00:23:15,620 She puts on gloves 457 00:23:16,172 --> 00:23:18,379 and knocks on June's front door. 458 00:23:19,068 --> 00:23:22,448 She allegedly told June 459 00:23:22,448 --> 00:23:24,655 that she had a drinking problem 460 00:23:24,655 --> 00:23:27,724 and that she needed to get some vitamins 461 00:23:27,793 --> 00:23:29,827 and to get herself clean. 462 00:23:30,965 --> 00:23:33,000 And she claims that 463 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,275 June was putting her down 464 00:23:37,275 --> 00:23:39,172 for her drinking 465 00:23:39,172 --> 00:23:42,275 and that this was what triggered her. 466 00:23:43,034 --> 00:23:46,034 [Dobson] Dana asked to borrow a book. 467 00:23:46,034 --> 00:23:47,827 June offered to go get a book 468 00:23:47,896 --> 00:23:49,379 and bring it back to Dana. 469 00:23:51,172 --> 00:23:53,793 And she pushed herself into the home saying, 470 00:23:53,793 --> 00:23:56,000 "I'll find the book on my own." 471 00:23:59,586 --> 00:24:02,310 As they were looking for the books, 472 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,241 she then began to murder June. 473 00:24:10,034 --> 00:24:14,172 June was killed with a telephone cord. 474 00:24:16,586 --> 00:24:18,034 [Dobson] Dana had to use a chair 475 00:24:18,034 --> 00:24:21,275 to have enough strength to kill June. 476 00:24:21,275 --> 00:24:25,068 She tied the phone cord to the chair, 477 00:24:25,068 --> 00:24:27,896 put the chair over June, and then further, 478 00:24:27,896 --> 00:24:31,827 used a wine decanter to bash in June's head. 479 00:24:37,862 --> 00:24:39,655 [producer speaking] 480 00:24:39,655 --> 00:24:41,344 A lot of murderers I've worked with 481 00:24:41,344 --> 00:24:45,034 have described a feeling of boringness in their lives 482 00:24:45,034 --> 00:24:47,931 that is so strong they don't wanna live. 483 00:24:48,655 --> 00:24:51,517 And when they engage in the act of murder, 484 00:24:52,172 --> 00:24:54,000 they feel like themselves. 485 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,482 They feel whole. 486 00:24:55,482 --> 00:24:58,172 So I can imagine that when Dana was staring 487 00:24:58,172 --> 00:24:59,620 into June's eyes, 488 00:25:00,275 --> 00:25:02,103 she felt like herself. 489 00:25:02,103 --> 00:25:04,931 And then she started to build up that stimulation 490 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,689 where that murder became more and more grotesque, 491 00:25:08,586 --> 00:25:10,517 bashing her skull in. 492 00:25:12,275 --> 00:25:14,000 [Rogers] She stole from June. 493 00:25:14,793 --> 00:25:17,931 She rifled through her purse 494 00:25:18,448 --> 00:25:20,896 and took major credit cards. 495 00:25:24,655 --> 00:25:27,689 [Donnie] Dana calmly returns to the boy in her car, 496 00:25:27,689 --> 00:25:29,517 still buckled into his seat. 497 00:25:30,896 --> 00:25:32,931 [Jeri] I still can't believe that 498 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,413 she could have left that little boy in the car 499 00:25:35,482 --> 00:25:38,137 and gone in and murdered someone. 500 00:25:38,137 --> 00:25:42,000 Everything Dana did was just unbelievable. 501 00:25:42,758 --> 00:25:44,137 [Dobson] But she was now able 502 00:25:44,137 --> 00:25:47,586 to give this son the perfect day, 503 00:25:47,586 --> 00:25:50,000 the perfect mother-son day, 504 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,793 and thoroughly enjoys it. 505 00:25:51,793 --> 00:25:53,724 They have lunch. He gets a haircut. 506 00:25:53,793 --> 00:25:55,172 They go shopping. 507 00:25:58,793 --> 00:26:01,551 Dana went on a spending spree 508 00:26:01,551 --> 00:26:04,517 with June Roberts' credit cards. 509 00:26:08,896 --> 00:26:11,275 [Dobson] It's not uncommon for killers 510 00:26:11,275 --> 00:26:14,413 to have special people in their life. 511 00:26:15,241 --> 00:26:18,241 She wanted a child that she could care for, 512 00:26:18,551 --> 00:26:19,896 so she overly attached 513 00:26:19,896 --> 00:26:22,310 to this young five-year-old boy. 514 00:26:23,689 --> 00:26:25,482 When she had miscarriages, 515 00:26:25,482 --> 00:26:27,344 she likely had a lot of hope 516 00:26:27,344 --> 00:26:28,931 and then her hope fell, 517 00:26:30,034 --> 00:26:33,241 and I can imagine it was gutting for her. 518 00:26:33,241 --> 00:26:35,793 And I think it became very important to her 519 00:26:35,793 --> 00:26:38,310 to have her own child. 520 00:26:38,379 --> 00:26:40,931 So now that she has access to June's money, 521 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,965 she can provide the life 522 00:26:42,965 --> 00:26:45,517 she wanted to give this boy. 523 00:26:45,586 --> 00:26:47,758 She doesn't have to ask her boyfriend 524 00:26:47,758 --> 00:26:49,310 for money anymore 525 00:26:49,379 --> 00:26:52,931 and she can be the mother that she wanted to be. 526 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,379 She can be the mother that she wanted to have. 527 00:27:00,344 --> 00:27:03,586 [Donnie] While Dana blows through her victim's money, 528 00:27:03,586 --> 00:27:06,689 June's friends make a horrible discovery. 529 00:27:07,448 --> 00:27:08,758 [Greco] When they went inside the house, 530 00:27:08,758 --> 00:27:11,517 they found her murdered inside of her house. 531 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,965 When you first walked into the scene, 532 00:27:17,965 --> 00:27:20,620 what you saw was a woman 533 00:27:21,379 --> 00:27:24,068 laying on her right side, 534 00:27:24,068 --> 00:27:26,551 had slid up against a desk, 535 00:27:26,551 --> 00:27:28,000 and you could see the blood smear 536 00:27:28,068 --> 00:27:29,517 as it was coming down the desk. 537 00:27:30,655 --> 00:27:32,172 A telephone cord had been wrapped 538 00:27:32,172 --> 00:27:34,000 around her neck tightly 539 00:27:34,068 --> 00:27:36,896 and then tied to the arm of the chair. 540 00:27:37,896 --> 00:27:40,137 There was glass fragments everywhere 541 00:27:40,137 --> 00:27:41,793 because she had been hit in the head 542 00:27:41,793 --> 00:27:44,620 with a heavy wine decanter bottle. 543 00:27:45,275 --> 00:27:47,137 And it appeared that the suspect 544 00:27:47,137 --> 00:27:49,034 had gone through the wallet 545 00:27:49,034 --> 00:27:52,000 and some of her credit cards were missing. 546 00:27:57,896 --> 00:28:01,068 One glaring similarity between the two scenes 547 00:28:01,068 --> 00:28:04,482 was the use of the phone cord for strangulation 548 00:28:04,482 --> 00:28:06,310 and there were all items of value 549 00:28:06,379 --> 00:28:07,827 that were left behind. 550 00:28:08,172 --> 00:28:09,517 In the June Roberts' case, 551 00:28:09,586 --> 00:28:11,413 her ring was still left behind. 552 00:28:11,482 --> 00:28:13,896 There was a check that was still left behind 553 00:28:13,896 --> 00:28:15,379 at the Norma Davis case. 554 00:28:17,379 --> 00:28:19,448 Also, one of the areas that we looked at, 555 00:28:19,448 --> 00:28:21,275 June had an open Bible. 556 00:28:22,586 --> 00:28:24,758 As I recall, looking into the open Bible, 557 00:28:24,758 --> 00:28:26,103 she had a prayer list 558 00:28:26,103 --> 00:28:29,655 and was stunned when we saw Norma Davis' name 559 00:28:29,655 --> 00:28:31,000 on her prayer list. 560 00:28:32,379 --> 00:28:35,241 And so there was a connection between these two victims. 561 00:28:35,241 --> 00:28:37,379 We didn't know what it was at the time, 562 00:28:37,379 --> 00:28:40,068 but certainly seeing a close-knit community 563 00:28:40,068 --> 00:28:43,275 who was really grieving the loss of the first victim 564 00:28:43,275 --> 00:28:46,034 that she placed this recent crime victim 565 00:28:46,034 --> 00:28:48,000 on her prayer list. 566 00:28:50,275 --> 00:28:52,413 Now, we wanna know 567 00:28:52,482 --> 00:28:53,896 was there any kind of connection 568 00:28:53,896 --> 00:28:56,000 to Norma Davis' murder? 569 00:28:57,172 --> 00:28:59,620 [Jeri] I was close to June. 570 00:28:59,689 --> 00:29:01,758 I can't really describe how I felt then. 571 00:29:01,758 --> 00:29:04,103 I was... I was in shock. 572 00:29:07,793 --> 00:29:11,413 June used to play golf with Jeri. 573 00:29:11,482 --> 00:29:14,344 So there is a relationship and a continuation 574 00:29:14,344 --> 00:29:18,482 of Dana's retaliation against Jeri. 575 00:29:21,103 --> 00:29:23,413 I knew there was a predator on the loose, 576 00:29:23,482 --> 00:29:25,000 somebody that was killing older people, 577 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,275 elderly people in that area. 578 00:29:27,275 --> 00:29:30,551 I thought it had to be a serial killer. 579 00:29:30,551 --> 00:29:32,034 Somebody who killed Norma 580 00:29:32,034 --> 00:29:35,517 had killed the second victim. 581 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,862 [Jeri] I couldn't believe June had been killed. 582 00:29:40,862 --> 00:29:43,517 She lived not very far away from us. 583 00:29:44,241 --> 00:29:47,827 Probably four houses away. 584 00:29:49,275 --> 00:29:54,206 And we all had been together many times 585 00:29:55,172 --> 00:29:57,103 and now she's gone too. 586 00:29:57,103 --> 00:29:58,517 [line ringing] 587 00:29:58,586 --> 00:29:59,758 [Jeri] I called my children and said, 588 00:29:59,758 --> 00:30:02,241 "Somebody is targeting our community." 589 00:30:02,241 --> 00:30:03,965 [grunting] 590 00:30:03,965 --> 00:30:05,137 "Please be careful. 591 00:30:05,137 --> 00:30:06,517 Watch out for everybody. 592 00:30:06,586 --> 00:30:08,551 Don't get close to anyone." 593 00:30:08,551 --> 00:30:09,793 But I had no information 594 00:30:09,793 --> 00:30:11,689 that I could give to the police 595 00:30:11,689 --> 00:30:13,344 that would help them. 596 00:30:13,344 --> 00:30:14,758 When June Roberts was murdered, 597 00:30:14,758 --> 00:30:16,827 that threw out my whole idea 598 00:30:16,896 --> 00:30:19,620 that it was a random thing with my grandmother, my nana. 599 00:30:19,689 --> 00:30:22,793 Very few people would have traveled in the same circles 600 00:30:22,793 --> 00:30:25,241 that my nana and June Roberts did. 601 00:30:25,241 --> 00:30:27,827 Now, I was really worried about my mom... 602 00:30:29,172 --> 00:30:31,724 'cause, obviously, she could be next. 603 00:30:33,172 --> 00:30:35,068 Dana Sue Gray hardly matched 604 00:30:35,068 --> 00:30:37,172 the profile of a serial killer, 605 00:30:37,172 --> 00:30:40,172 yet she's already claimed two victims 606 00:30:40,172 --> 00:30:41,896 and there are more to come. 607 00:30:41,896 --> 00:30:44,448 She seems to have an appetite for murder. 608 00:30:44,448 --> 00:30:46,103 And while Gray is on the street, 609 00:30:46,103 --> 00:30:48,310 no one is safe from her wrath. 610 00:30:58,689 --> 00:31:01,827 [ominous music playing] 611 00:31:02,482 --> 00:31:04,000 [Elissa] My first thought was that 612 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,482 these two cases might be connected. 613 00:31:08,275 --> 00:31:10,310 You don't wanna read into everything 614 00:31:10,379 --> 00:31:11,448 and make an assumption 615 00:31:11,448 --> 00:31:13,000 that the two crimes are related. 616 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,448 You have to take a step back and say objectively, 617 00:31:15,448 --> 00:31:17,517 "What evidence might we be looking for 618 00:31:17,586 --> 00:31:19,862 at both of these scenes to connect them? 619 00:31:19,862 --> 00:31:22,413 What did the victims have in common? 620 00:31:22,482 --> 00:31:23,551 And what does that information mean 621 00:31:23,551 --> 00:31:26,241 in the context of the serial crime?" 622 00:31:26,241 --> 00:31:28,413 It raised a lot of questions for me 623 00:31:28,482 --> 00:31:32,172 because I had never worked a serial crime before. 624 00:31:34,448 --> 00:31:36,137 [Greco] I was overwhelmed. 625 00:31:36,137 --> 00:31:39,000 I was thinking that I was one detective 626 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,482 who just had a homicide 627 00:31:40,482 --> 00:31:42,344 and now I've got a second homicide 628 00:31:42,344 --> 00:31:44,793 and, potentially, it could have been a serial killer. 629 00:31:48,482 --> 00:31:50,310 We had nothing. 630 00:31:50,379 --> 00:31:52,310 We had no description. 631 00:31:52,379 --> 00:31:53,724 We had no profile. 632 00:31:53,793 --> 00:31:55,896 We had no idea what to look for. 633 00:31:55,896 --> 00:31:57,241 I mean, now, you're like, 634 00:31:57,241 --> 00:31:59,517 "Hey, we need to be more cognizant of areas 635 00:31:59,586 --> 00:32:01,206 where there's elderly women." 636 00:32:02,241 --> 00:32:03,586 I have to go home at night 637 00:32:03,586 --> 00:32:04,965 and not be in that community, 638 00:32:04,965 --> 00:32:06,482 but other people, that's where they live, 639 00:32:06,482 --> 00:32:07,965 staying by themselves. 640 00:32:07,965 --> 00:32:11,000 If I was elderly, I would be feeling very vulnerable. 641 00:32:12,379 --> 00:32:15,034 People were freaked out. 642 00:32:15,034 --> 00:32:18,448 We had single, elderly women huddling together 643 00:32:18,448 --> 00:32:21,517 and sleeping in each other's homes 644 00:32:21,586 --> 00:32:24,000 because they didn't know if they were going to be murdered. 645 00:32:24,068 --> 00:32:26,103 We felt like we were the prisoners, locked in. 646 00:32:26,103 --> 00:32:27,413 [man] Scary. 647 00:32:28,034 --> 00:32:29,724 Where are your daughters? 648 00:32:31,689 --> 00:32:34,931 [sinister music playing] 649 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,586 [Donnie] While the rest of her community is on edge, 650 00:32:38,137 --> 00:32:40,068 Dana is riding high, 651 00:32:40,068 --> 00:32:44,068 especially now that she's feeding her desire to kill. 652 00:32:45,448 --> 00:32:48,758 I would break down the motive in this case 653 00:32:48,758 --> 00:32:50,551 in three ways. 654 00:32:50,551 --> 00:32:53,620 One, she wanted to get her rocks off 655 00:32:53,689 --> 00:32:55,034 and that was a way to do it. 656 00:32:55,034 --> 00:32:59,000 Two, these little old ladies were like her mother. 657 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,620 Great way to get rid of that pain 658 00:33:00,689 --> 00:33:02,931 that was just seething inside of her. 659 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,000 And, three, she could grab a little bit of cash. 660 00:33:06,068 --> 00:33:07,965 And there's an element of the narcissism 661 00:33:07,965 --> 00:33:09,103 and the entitlement 662 00:33:09,103 --> 00:33:10,862 that no one would be able to catch her 663 00:33:10,862 --> 00:33:14,137 because she so meticulously committed the crimes. 664 00:33:14,137 --> 00:33:16,724 She didn't leave fingerprints. 665 00:33:18,241 --> 00:33:19,827 She was too good to be caught. 666 00:33:22,896 --> 00:33:26,689 Dana got into a conversation with her manicurist 667 00:33:26,689 --> 00:33:29,724 about the crimes that were scaring 668 00:33:29,793 --> 00:33:31,931 everybody in the local area, 669 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,965 in the retirement community. 670 00:33:33,965 --> 00:33:36,551 Dana says to her, 671 00:33:36,551 --> 00:33:39,931 "I hear they think it might be a serial killer 672 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,137 from San Diego." 673 00:33:46,448 --> 00:33:51,413 So Dana is trying to inject 674 00:33:51,482 --> 00:33:54,896 an alternative hypothesis 675 00:33:54,896 --> 00:33:58,482 about who the killer might be. 676 00:33:59,896 --> 00:34:02,448 [Donnie] Dana has already murdered two women, 677 00:34:02,448 --> 00:34:04,931 but she can't get enough, 678 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,413 so now she's on the hunt for a third. 679 00:34:07,482 --> 00:34:10,862 This time, she decides to switch things up, 680 00:34:10,862 --> 00:34:14,931 targeting a complete stranger in the next town over. 681 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,068 Dana saw a very quiet antique store. 682 00:34:19,068 --> 00:34:22,379 An antique store is a good, easy target. 683 00:34:22,379 --> 00:34:25,172 [Rogers] She carries a cord, 684 00:34:25,172 --> 00:34:28,586 a yellow plastic woven cord that 685 00:34:28,586 --> 00:34:31,344 she must have had it in her purse. 686 00:34:31,344 --> 00:34:35,103 She brought a weapon with her that she wanted to use 687 00:34:35,103 --> 00:34:37,275 and that she knew how to use. 688 00:34:38,379 --> 00:34:40,827 [Donnie] Dana approaches the store clerk, 689 00:34:40,896 --> 00:34:44,344 57-year-old Dorinda Hawkins. 690 00:34:44,344 --> 00:34:48,551 [Dobson] They're looking for a killer of elderly women. 691 00:34:48,551 --> 00:34:50,931 So this would throw the police off the trace, 692 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,137 but also give Dana the capacity to still kill 693 00:34:54,137 --> 00:34:56,586 and get the stimulation 694 00:34:56,586 --> 00:34:58,793 she is now falling in love with. 695 00:35:00,862 --> 00:35:05,000 [Rogers] She is purporting to buy frames 696 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,931 for her mother's photos. 697 00:35:09,689 --> 00:35:11,689 [Dobson] I think it's an easy story to tell. 698 00:35:11,689 --> 00:35:14,000 My beauty queen mother. 699 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,241 Everybody wants to frame a picture of their mother, 700 00:35:17,241 --> 00:35:19,310 especially of their dead mother. 701 00:35:19,379 --> 00:35:22,379 It's going to draw emotions from Dorinda. 702 00:35:22,379 --> 00:35:23,931 She's not gonna question her. 703 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000 She won't be on guard. 704 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,137 And she can easily then move into the next stage 705 00:35:29,137 --> 00:35:30,344 of killing her. 706 00:35:31,896 --> 00:35:36,000 But she didn't like everything that Dorinda showed her. 707 00:35:36,793 --> 00:35:39,241 She said that Dorinda 708 00:35:39,241 --> 00:35:42,931 seemed to be thinking of herself 709 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,689 as somehow better than Dana. 710 00:35:46,275 --> 00:35:48,931 Dorinda upset her. 711 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,517 That becomes her excuse 712 00:35:52,586 --> 00:35:55,586 that whatever happens 713 00:35:56,482 --> 00:35:59,448 can be used to say 714 00:35:59,448 --> 00:36:02,000 it happened because of this. 715 00:36:04,586 --> 00:36:08,000 And at a point, Dorinda is bent down, 716 00:36:08,068 --> 00:36:10,620 trying to retrieve an object... 717 00:36:12,655 --> 00:36:15,896 that she feels the cord around her neck. 718 00:36:15,896 --> 00:36:19,275 [tense music playing] 719 00:36:32,655 --> 00:36:36,275 [dramatic music playing] 720 00:36:37,689 --> 00:36:40,827 The third victim is the one that really shows you 721 00:36:40,896 --> 00:36:43,000 the mind of Dana Gray. 722 00:36:43,655 --> 00:36:45,413 [Rogers] What led me to believe that 723 00:36:45,482 --> 00:36:47,793 she knew what she was doing, 724 00:36:47,793 --> 00:36:53,068 she came in saying to Dorinda, 725 00:36:53,655 --> 00:36:56,517 "You're here alone again." 726 00:36:57,241 --> 00:37:01,068 She may have surveyed that store before. 727 00:37:01,068 --> 00:37:04,034 She knew Dorinda was alone 728 00:37:04,034 --> 00:37:08,000 and she had the weapon in her purse, 729 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,551 and so this is premeditation. 730 00:37:11,551 --> 00:37:13,793 I think it was just easy for her. 731 00:37:13,793 --> 00:37:15,827 It was easy to kill. 732 00:37:15,896 --> 00:37:18,000 And now you've got Norma Davis 733 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,379 who was killed with an object 734 00:37:20,379 --> 00:37:23,413 that was from within the house. 735 00:37:23,482 --> 00:37:27,620 Then June Roberts was killed with an object from the house. 736 00:37:29,068 --> 00:37:30,551 Then the killer switches up. 737 00:37:30,551 --> 00:37:34,103 She switches up and she brings her own cord. 738 00:37:38,551 --> 00:37:40,689 [Rogers] Unlike the other victims, 739 00:37:40,689 --> 00:37:44,310 Dorinda was only 57 years old. 740 00:37:44,379 --> 00:37:46,379 The others were much older 741 00:37:46,379 --> 00:37:49,931 and could put up less of a fight, 742 00:37:50,689 --> 00:37:53,517 but Dorinda fought for her life. 743 00:37:55,275 --> 00:37:58,000 She ended up grabbing hold 744 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,068 of a table leg on the floor 745 00:38:01,068 --> 00:38:02,620 when she was down 746 00:38:02,689 --> 00:38:06,896 trying to separate herself from Dana. 747 00:38:08,896 --> 00:38:10,275 [Greco] During the strangling, 748 00:38:10,275 --> 00:38:12,827 Dorinda Hawkins is begging for her life. 749 00:38:12,896 --> 00:38:14,068 She's saying, "Just let me live. 750 00:38:14,068 --> 00:38:16,103 I have eight kids. Just let me live. 751 00:38:16,896 --> 00:38:18,413 Take anything. 752 00:38:18,482 --> 00:38:19,620 You can have whatever you want in the store. 753 00:38:19,689 --> 00:38:21,482 Just take it." 754 00:38:21,482 --> 00:38:22,862 And Dana tells her, 755 00:38:22,862 --> 00:38:24,689 "I'm not doing this for the money." 756 00:38:26,172 --> 00:38:29,344 [Rogers] Here, she's trying to differentiate 757 00:38:29,344 --> 00:38:32,517 this killing from the others 758 00:38:32,586 --> 00:38:35,482 where she took credit cards. 759 00:38:36,482 --> 00:38:38,482 So she is thinking about 760 00:38:38,482 --> 00:38:41,758 how this crime needs to look different. 761 00:38:41,758 --> 00:38:45,413 I believe that's what triggered this crime, 762 00:38:45,482 --> 00:38:48,862 that she needed to create a pattern 763 00:38:48,862 --> 00:38:51,241 that would throw the police off. 764 00:38:52,448 --> 00:38:55,551 [Greco] I think that the reason why she switched up with Dorinda 765 00:38:55,551 --> 00:38:57,137 was because she was reading 766 00:38:57,137 --> 00:38:58,896 what was being put in the paper 767 00:38:58,896 --> 00:39:00,482 and maybe a little too much information 768 00:39:00,482 --> 00:39:01,827 was being put out there. 769 00:39:03,586 --> 00:39:08,275 [Donnie] Dorinda fights back as Dana tries to soothe her. 770 00:39:08,275 --> 00:39:10,586 While Dana is strangling this woman, 771 00:39:10,586 --> 00:39:13,896 she says, "Relax, just relax." 772 00:39:15,689 --> 00:39:17,482 Dana worked as a surgical nurse, 773 00:39:17,482 --> 00:39:21,068 so it is very likely that she was desensitized 774 00:39:21,068 --> 00:39:23,482 to people screaming in pain 775 00:39:23,482 --> 00:39:25,620 because she would say to them, 776 00:39:25,689 --> 00:39:28,517 "Relax, just relax." 777 00:39:34,551 --> 00:39:37,000 So now she's in the face of Dorinda. 778 00:39:37,068 --> 00:39:39,344 Dorinda is flailing and screaming. 779 00:39:39,344 --> 00:39:42,000 And Dana is likely so desensitized, 780 00:39:42,068 --> 00:39:43,413 she says the same words, 781 00:39:43,482 --> 00:39:46,275 "Relax, just relax," 782 00:39:46,275 --> 00:39:49,000 while brutally attempting to murder her. 783 00:39:50,379 --> 00:39:54,068 And it amazes me that in the face of this torment, 784 00:39:54,068 --> 00:39:55,896 this torture, 785 00:39:55,896 --> 00:39:58,275 Dana is calm and asking someone 786 00:39:58,275 --> 00:40:02,137 about to be dead to stay calm too. 787 00:40:02,965 --> 00:40:05,379 After Dorinda passes out, 788 00:40:05,379 --> 00:40:08,862 Dana then takes $5 out of Dorinda's purse 789 00:40:08,862 --> 00:40:11,241 and $25 out of the register. 790 00:40:14,586 --> 00:40:16,931 But I think there's a deeper why to that. 791 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,689 And it's that she was retaliating in some way. 792 00:40:20,689 --> 00:40:22,620 So this is a woman who was raised 793 00:40:22,689 --> 00:40:24,689 in an extremely wealthy area 794 00:40:24,689 --> 00:40:26,931 with a very narcissistic mother. 795 00:40:28,586 --> 00:40:30,931 She was at a point in her life, 796 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,103 before these murders, 797 00:40:32,103 --> 00:40:34,724 where she had lost all of her money. 798 00:40:36,275 --> 00:40:38,758 I think that when she took those small bits of money, 799 00:40:38,758 --> 00:40:42,000 it was an extra "[bleep] you" to the victims. 800 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,724 It was an extra "[bleep] you" to her mother. 801 00:40:45,275 --> 00:40:47,000 [Donnie] Dana takes one last look 802 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,241 at Dorinda's lifeless body on the floor, 803 00:40:50,241 --> 00:40:52,724 then hurries out of the antique shop. 804 00:40:53,586 --> 00:40:57,862 And I think she left sooner than she might have 805 00:40:57,862 --> 00:41:00,896 for fear that somebody would come in. 806 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,689 And Dorinda Hawkins comes to two hours later. 807 00:41:10,482 --> 00:41:13,482 For the first time during her terrifying murder spree, 808 00:41:13,482 --> 00:41:16,172 Gray has left behind a witness. 809 00:41:16,172 --> 00:41:18,413 But despite the fact that there's finally someone 810 00:41:18,482 --> 00:41:19,896 who could identify her, 811 00:41:19,896 --> 00:41:21,620 she continues to seek out 812 00:41:21,689 --> 00:41:24,068 and murder victims in cold blood. 813 00:41:24,068 --> 00:41:27,413 The urge to kill has stimulated her with excitement 814 00:41:27,482 --> 00:41:31,000 and she won't rest until she satisfies it again. 815 00:41:31,793 --> 00:41:37,896 [dramatic music playing] 816 00:41:37,896 --> 00:41:40,689 [tense music playing] 817 00:41:42,689 --> 00:41:44,655 [squashing] 818 00:41:44,655 --> 00:41:46,517 [Donnie] Following the gruesome murders 819 00:41:46,586 --> 00:41:48,896 of Norma Davis and June Roberts, 820 00:41:50,172 --> 00:41:54,241 the gated community of Canyon Lake is on edge. 821 00:41:54,241 --> 00:41:57,379 But police haven't yet connected these two murders 822 00:41:57,379 --> 00:41:59,379 to the attack on Dorinda Hawkins 823 00:41:59,379 --> 00:42:01,000 in the neighboring town. 824 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,827 Canyon Lake was... 825 00:42:02,896 --> 00:42:04,827 It was like the Night Stalker out here. 826 00:42:05,482 --> 00:42:06,827 I remember what it was like 827 00:42:06,896 --> 00:42:08,655 when we had the Night Stalker here. 828 00:42:08,655 --> 00:42:10,931 Nobody wanted to leave their windows open 829 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,103 'cause that's how the guy was getting in 830 00:42:12,103 --> 00:42:13,413 and killing people. 831 00:42:13,482 --> 00:42:16,000 And it was the same way for this. 832 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,344 No idea who it was and who was gonna be next 833 00:42:19,344 --> 00:42:21,379 and why they were being killed. 834 00:42:21,379 --> 00:42:24,137 After the second homicide, 835 00:42:24,137 --> 00:42:25,896 I remember going to a call, 836 00:42:25,896 --> 00:42:27,275 I knock on the door and nothing happens, 837 00:42:27,275 --> 00:42:28,689 I knock on the door and nothing happens. 838 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,827 Go up one more time 839 00:42:30,896 --> 00:42:32,068 and if someone is standing there 840 00:42:32,068 --> 00:42:33,620 with a gun pointed at me, 841 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,344 you know, you're gonna get in a shootout 842 00:42:37,344 --> 00:42:41,000 with just some person who's really nervous 843 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,000 because people are being found dead in their community. 844 00:42:44,758 --> 00:42:46,310 [Greco] Everybody's worried. 845 00:42:46,379 --> 00:42:49,068 The press is blowing up the phones, 846 00:42:49,068 --> 00:42:51,551 people are calling in and... 847 00:42:51,551 --> 00:42:54,758 Any suspicious activity, any suspicious person 848 00:42:54,758 --> 00:42:58,275 is being called into the... To the station. 849 00:42:58,275 --> 00:43:01,931 We had to assign a community service officer 850 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,482 because it was just overwhelming. 851 00:43:03,482 --> 00:43:08,310 He was writing down names of people calling in tips 852 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,793 and then we would have to go back 853 00:43:10,793 --> 00:43:14,965 and kind of follow up on those tips later. 854 00:43:14,965 --> 00:43:18,068 [Tim] This is a belt of communities from Sun City 855 00:43:18,068 --> 00:43:20,724 to Canyon Lake to Lake Elsinore, 856 00:43:20,793 --> 00:43:24,000 and there's a lot of older people, 857 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,620 older populations in all three communities, 858 00:43:27,689 --> 00:43:29,310 and they felt very vulnerable. 859 00:43:29,793 --> 00:43:32,000 They banded together and... 860 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,689 There were all kinds of rumors going around. 861 00:43:34,689 --> 00:43:37,068 There was rumors it was a serial killer, 862 00:43:37,068 --> 00:43:40,000 there was rumors that it was a man, 863 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,551 and there was rumors that 864 00:43:41,551 --> 00:43:43,689 it was somebody that knew all these people. 865 00:43:43,689 --> 00:43:46,655 It was on everybody's lips. 866 00:43:46,655 --> 00:43:50,000 You couldn't go anywhere without people talking about it. 867 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,586 I just think that people were scared. 868 00:43:52,793 --> 00:43:54,172 They were afraid. 869 00:43:55,482 --> 00:43:57,827 [Donnie] And they were right to be afraid. 870 00:43:57,896 --> 00:44:01,413 Detective Greco knows if he doesn't act fast, 871 00:44:01,482 --> 00:44:04,758 another unsuspecting member of this tight-knit community 872 00:44:04,758 --> 00:44:06,896 is going to die. 873 00:44:06,896 --> 00:44:09,413 I didn't wanna let anybody down, really. 874 00:44:09,482 --> 00:44:10,586 It was... It was heavy. 875 00:44:10,586 --> 00:44:11,724 It was a heavy weight. 876 00:44:11,793 --> 00:44:12,689 Yeah. 877 00:44:13,275 --> 00:44:14,655 I was so immersed 878 00:44:14,655 --> 00:44:16,137 in trying to find out who the suspect was. 879 00:44:16,137 --> 00:44:20,103 I was constantly thinking about who did this, 880 00:44:20,103 --> 00:44:21,551 and where they live. 881 00:44:21,551 --> 00:44:24,517 It had to be somebody from the community. 882 00:44:24,586 --> 00:44:28,137 [Bob] When you think about the way that the police work, 883 00:44:28,137 --> 00:44:30,310 pretty much everyone is a suspect 884 00:44:30,379 --> 00:44:32,344 until they've proved that they're not. 885 00:44:32,344 --> 00:44:34,103 Especially when they think that somebody 886 00:44:34,103 --> 00:44:37,413 that the person actually knew, 887 00:44:37,482 --> 00:44:40,517 they're gonna have to look at all the immediate family, 888 00:44:40,586 --> 00:44:43,379 look at all of her close friends and whatnot, 889 00:44:43,379 --> 00:44:47,172 and rule every one of them out one at a time. 890 00:44:48,241 --> 00:44:49,862 [Greco] This was a gated community. 891 00:44:49,862 --> 00:44:53,000 Security was protecting the gates in and out, 892 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,724 but it didn't mean you couldn't... 893 00:44:54,793 --> 00:44:56,344 You couldn't climb the fence 894 00:44:56,344 --> 00:45:00,000 or go through, you know, the drainage 895 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,586 to get into the community. 896 00:45:01,586 --> 00:45:04,000 But we did consider somebody 897 00:45:04,068 --> 00:45:05,896 who may have lived in that area, 898 00:45:05,896 --> 00:45:07,482 knew the area. 899 00:45:08,379 --> 00:45:11,172 But we also looked at maintenance workers. 900 00:45:12,137 --> 00:45:16,793 I think there was a gardener that had seen a woman that... 901 00:45:16,793 --> 00:45:20,275 Shortly within that time period of Norma Davis' murder 902 00:45:20,896 --> 00:45:22,793 just walking around with a... 903 00:45:22,793 --> 00:45:24,482 Like a blank stare on her face. 904 00:45:24,482 --> 00:45:26,896 He wasn't really able to give a good description though, 905 00:45:26,896 --> 00:45:28,241 of this person. 906 00:45:30,034 --> 00:45:31,896 [Donnie] As police in Lake Elsinore 907 00:45:31,896 --> 00:45:34,448 wait for Dorinda Hawkins to recover enough 908 00:45:34,448 --> 00:45:36,068 to give a clear statement, 909 00:45:36,068 --> 00:45:38,586 Detective Greco chases down leads 910 00:45:38,586 --> 00:45:40,379 in the Canyon Lake murders, 911 00:45:40,379 --> 00:45:44,034 not realizing they're looking for the same killer. 912 00:45:44,034 --> 00:45:46,793 At the search of June Roberts' house, 913 00:45:46,793 --> 00:45:48,655 one of the items that was missing 914 00:45:48,655 --> 00:45:51,103 was a checkbook and credit cards. 915 00:45:52,379 --> 00:45:54,103 [Greco] So there were three of us 916 00:45:54,103 --> 00:45:55,931 who are kind of working our way 917 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,000 through this investigation on the credit card usage. 918 00:45:59,862 --> 00:46:01,724 And we started seeing that the credit cards 919 00:46:01,793 --> 00:46:03,724 were being used in various locations. 920 00:46:05,103 --> 00:46:07,000 The date the credit cards were used 921 00:46:07,068 --> 00:46:11,482 was on February 28th, 1994, right after June was killed. 922 00:46:12,586 --> 00:46:15,793 The credit cards were used at a bistro, 923 00:46:15,793 --> 00:46:17,620 at a jewelry store, 924 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,655 and a hair salon. 925 00:46:21,655 --> 00:46:24,379 As we were going to different locations, 926 00:46:24,379 --> 00:46:29,344 we kept getting information that it was a female 927 00:46:29,344 --> 00:46:33,137 around 5'6" with blonde hair 928 00:46:33,137 --> 00:46:36,482 and she had a little boy with her about age five 929 00:46:36,482 --> 00:46:38,931 and he had blond hair as well. 930 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,344 Then the hair salon, she went in there 931 00:46:41,344 --> 00:46:44,931 and I believe she wanted to get her hair dyed red. 932 00:46:46,068 --> 00:46:49,793 And then a boy had his hair cut as well. 933 00:46:49,793 --> 00:46:52,275 The stylist remembered a conversation 934 00:46:52,275 --> 00:46:53,655 that she had with the boy. 935 00:46:53,655 --> 00:46:55,827 And the boy said, "That's my other mommy." 936 00:46:57,586 --> 00:46:58,965 So I knew I was looking 937 00:46:58,965 --> 00:47:03,379 at a potential step-mom situation in that case. 938 00:47:03,965 --> 00:47:06,172 So I asked the stylist, I said, 939 00:47:06,172 --> 00:47:09,000 "Did you happen to get the boy's name?" 940 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,137 And she goes, "Yeah, I wrote it down in my appointment book." 941 00:47:11,137 --> 00:47:13,517 [tense music playing] 942 00:47:13,586 --> 00:47:15,310 [Greco] And I took that as evidence. 943 00:47:17,793 --> 00:47:21,482 [dramatic music playing] 944 00:47:21,482 --> 00:47:24,172 I got a phone call one day from Joe Greco. 945 00:47:24,172 --> 00:47:25,655 [telephone rings] 946 00:47:25,655 --> 00:47:29,310 [Jeri] And he said, "Jeri, I want to inform you, 947 00:47:29,379 --> 00:47:30,655 since you've asked me, 948 00:47:30,655 --> 00:47:34,241 we don't have any other information about Norma. 949 00:47:35,758 --> 00:47:38,068 But we do have some things about... 950 00:47:38,586 --> 00:47:40,413 June Roberts. 951 00:47:40,482 --> 00:47:43,620 We know that the person who killed her 952 00:47:43,689 --> 00:47:45,482 took her credit cards 953 00:47:46,379 --> 00:47:50,413 and went to shop at several different places. 954 00:47:50,482 --> 00:47:53,310 And one of the places she went to was a beauty shop 955 00:47:53,379 --> 00:47:55,275 where she had her hair styled." 956 00:47:56,896 --> 00:47:58,310 So it was a woman. 957 00:47:58,655 --> 00:47:59,758 That was a shock. 958 00:48:00,689 --> 00:48:03,310 We still felt that there was some connections 959 00:48:03,379 --> 00:48:05,000 to our community. 960 00:48:05,689 --> 00:48:07,827 We drove around Canyon Lake 961 00:48:07,896 --> 00:48:12,758 to see if we could find any random women driving. 962 00:48:12,758 --> 00:48:16,931 Russell kept his loaded gun by his bed. 963 00:48:18,482 --> 00:48:21,000 [Bob] My mom told me that it was a woman, 964 00:48:21,068 --> 00:48:22,827 and I thought, wow. 965 00:48:22,896 --> 00:48:25,137 I always figured it was a man doing this 966 00:48:25,137 --> 00:48:26,689 just because it was so violent. 967 00:48:26,689 --> 00:48:29,206 [squashing] 968 00:48:30,034 --> 00:48:32,517 [tense music playing] 969 00:48:33,068 --> 00:48:35,931 [woman grunting] 970 00:48:36,896 --> 00:48:39,793 [tense music playing] 971 00:48:39,793 --> 00:48:42,344 [Bob] The second I heard it was a woman, 972 00:48:42,344 --> 00:48:47,103 it's like someone basically was talking in my head 973 00:48:47,103 --> 00:48:48,517 and they said, "It's Dana." 974 00:48:49,482 --> 00:48:51,344 A light went off. 975 00:48:51,344 --> 00:48:53,482 Dana makes the most sense of all. 976 00:48:53,482 --> 00:48:57,862 She knew my nana, and she definitely knew June, 977 00:48:57,862 --> 00:49:01,379 but I can't come out and say, "Mom, I think it's Dana," 978 00:49:01,379 --> 00:49:04,379 because I didn't have any more proof at that point. 979 00:49:04,379 --> 00:49:06,103 It's Russell's daughter. 980 00:49:06,103 --> 00:49:07,724 I mean... 981 00:49:07,793 --> 00:49:10,896 how can I accuse Russell's daughter of something? 982 00:49:10,896 --> 00:49:12,689 [Donnie] A picture of the suspect 983 00:49:12,689 --> 00:49:15,379 comes into focus for Detective Greco 984 00:49:15,379 --> 00:49:18,379 as Lake Elsinore Police and the media 985 00:49:18,379 --> 00:49:21,448 question Dorinda Hawkins about her attack. 986 00:49:21,448 --> 00:49:22,862 [Dorinda] I looked directly in her eyes, 987 00:49:22,862 --> 00:49:24,758 there was no emotion, 988 00:49:24,758 --> 00:49:29,000 no anger, no being mad. Nothing. 989 00:49:29,068 --> 00:49:31,517 It was just a dead, cold stare. 990 00:49:32,172 --> 00:49:33,896 [Tim] Dorinda Hawkins 991 00:49:33,896 --> 00:49:37,000 described the woman as heavy-set, 992 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,344 blonde-ish hair. 993 00:49:38,344 --> 00:49:39,689 [woman grunting] 994 00:49:39,689 --> 00:49:43,310 [Tim] What stood out the most from my interview with... 995 00:49:43,379 --> 00:49:48,413 Dorinda was she was told just to relax. 996 00:49:50,275 --> 00:49:53,862 Because it's what a caregiver would say 997 00:49:53,862 --> 00:49:57,000 to calm somebody who is... 998 00:49:57,655 --> 00:50:00,931 stressed out over a frightful situation. 999 00:50:01,379 --> 00:50:03,448 [woman grunting] 1000 00:50:03,448 --> 00:50:06,517 [dramatic music playing] 1001 00:50:06,586 --> 00:50:09,862 The police did a composite sketch 1002 00:50:09,862 --> 00:50:12,103 based on the description 1003 00:50:12,103 --> 00:50:15,310 that Dorinda Hawkins gave to them. 1004 00:50:16,103 --> 00:50:18,310 [Greco] We did see the newspaper article 1005 00:50:18,379 --> 00:50:22,275 and the sketch of the suspect in that case 1006 00:50:22,275 --> 00:50:25,310 and somebody brought it to my attention. 1007 00:50:26,344 --> 00:50:27,724 I considered the fact 1008 00:50:27,793 --> 00:50:30,000 that because of these two homicides 1009 00:50:30,068 --> 00:50:31,379 and the short period of time 1010 00:50:31,379 --> 00:50:34,000 within the attack on Dorinda Hawkins 1011 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,241 that they could be connected. 1012 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,068 [Donnie] Two murders and one attack 1013 00:50:42,068 --> 00:50:43,586 all in under a month. 1014 00:50:43,586 --> 00:50:46,724 But Dana Sue Gray has no idea 1015 00:50:46,793 --> 00:50:49,793 that police could soon be closing in on her. 1016 00:50:49,793 --> 00:50:51,758 [Dobson] Her boyfriend at the time begins to question 1017 00:50:51,758 --> 00:50:55,551 where she's getting money to buy all these goods 1018 00:50:55,551 --> 00:50:57,379 and she says that a family member 1019 00:50:57,379 --> 00:50:58,862 had sent her the money. 1020 00:50:58,862 --> 00:51:00,620 She also reassured him saying, 1021 00:51:00,689 --> 00:51:02,689 "Don't worry, more money will come." 1022 00:51:04,034 --> 00:51:06,000 What that tells me was 1023 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,000 that she was onto something. 1024 00:51:08,689 --> 00:51:11,034 And she was enjoying the killing. 1025 00:51:11,034 --> 00:51:14,241 This was just the beginning for Dana Sue Gray. 1026 00:51:16,275 --> 00:51:19,586 [tense music playing] 1027 00:51:25,310 --> 00:51:27,344 [tense music playing] 1028 00:51:28,275 --> 00:51:30,241 [Greco] After finding out who the suspect 1029 00:51:30,241 --> 00:51:31,310 could possibly be, 1030 00:51:31,310 --> 00:51:33,586 the first thing I did was I started to look 1031 00:51:33,586 --> 00:51:35,310 at the... At the name of the boy 1032 00:51:35,310 --> 00:51:37,862 and I started looking at all the different public schools 1033 00:51:37,862 --> 00:51:39,655 to see if I could find a name that matched. 1034 00:51:39,655 --> 00:51:41,655 And I did. I found one name that matched. 1035 00:51:44,137 --> 00:51:46,482 We did a stakeout on the house. 1036 00:51:48,034 --> 00:51:49,965 The lady came home. 1037 00:51:50,551 --> 00:51:52,965 [tense music playing] 1038 00:51:52,965 --> 00:51:54,896 [Greco] We realized she did not fit 1039 00:51:54,896 --> 00:51:58,379 the description of the suspect 1040 00:51:58,379 --> 00:52:01,275 so we felt that we're going in the wrong direction 1041 00:52:01,275 --> 00:52:03,413 with that name. 1042 00:52:03,413 --> 00:52:05,344 [Donnie] What Greco thought could be the key 1043 00:52:05,344 --> 00:52:07,034 to solving the case 1044 00:52:07,034 --> 00:52:09,000 turns out to be a dead end. 1045 00:52:09,068 --> 00:52:10,862 And without any new leads... 1046 00:52:11,655 --> 00:52:14,551 he takes a fresh look at old ones. 1047 00:52:17,413 --> 00:52:20,000 [Greco] I was continuously going back to Jeri's house 1048 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,551 to get more information 1049 00:52:21,551 --> 00:52:23,551 just to see if there was something that I missed, 1050 00:52:23,551 --> 00:52:25,896 something that I could have figured out. 1051 00:52:26,448 --> 00:52:28,482 And she was just so helpful. 1052 00:52:28,482 --> 00:52:30,000 Every time I asked her for something, 1053 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,241 she gave it to me. 1054 00:52:32,137 --> 00:52:35,172 [Jeri] I felt very fortunate that Joe had decided 1055 00:52:35,172 --> 00:52:36,896 I was no longer a suspect, 1056 00:52:36,896 --> 00:52:38,793 but that I could be an ally. 1057 00:52:39,758 --> 00:52:41,551 So I started to feel more comfortable 1058 00:52:41,551 --> 00:52:43,448 with giving her more and more information. 1059 00:52:43,448 --> 00:52:46,000 So I started sharing what I knew 1060 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,793 about the suspect I was looking for. 1061 00:52:49,551 --> 00:52:53,689 I gave her the description of white female, in her 30s, 1062 00:52:53,689 --> 00:52:57,965 blonde hair, recently cut, possibly dyed red. 1063 00:52:57,965 --> 00:53:00,413 And she has a five-year-old boy with her 1064 00:53:00,413 --> 00:53:03,275 that also has a recent haircut blond hair. 1065 00:53:05,827 --> 00:53:08,103 And I asked her if that matched, you know, 1066 00:53:08,103 --> 00:53:10,551 the description of somebody that she knew. 1067 00:53:12,275 --> 00:53:14,310 She didn't come right out and say, you know, 1068 00:53:14,310 --> 00:53:15,344 "No, absolutely not." 1069 00:53:15,344 --> 00:53:17,655 She just kind of just hesitated and said no. 1070 00:53:20,793 --> 00:53:22,103 We didn't have any indication 1071 00:53:22,103 --> 00:53:24,000 that it could be anyone we knew. 1072 00:53:25,793 --> 00:53:27,517 I don't think Jeri made the connection 1073 00:53:27,517 --> 00:53:29,931 because it was too obscene. 1074 00:53:30,655 --> 00:53:32,689 The crimes were so horrific 1075 00:53:32,689 --> 00:53:34,379 that anyone would struggle 1076 00:53:34,379 --> 00:53:37,000 to think it was somebody in their life 1077 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,724 or that they had been around. 1078 00:53:38,724 --> 00:53:42,000 [ominous music playing] 1079 00:53:50,620 --> 00:53:52,000 Dana came to see us 1080 00:53:53,241 --> 00:53:55,137 and she was very happy. 1081 00:53:55,827 --> 00:53:58,241 She said, "Oh, Jeri, look, 1082 00:53:58,241 --> 00:54:00,724 look at my new red hair. 1083 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,551 Ta-da." 1084 00:54:07,965 --> 00:54:10,137 That sort of took me aback. 1085 00:54:10,137 --> 00:54:11,827 I didn't know really what to say. 1086 00:54:12,965 --> 00:54:15,965 So I said, "Okay. It looks great. Come on in." 1087 00:54:16,793 --> 00:54:19,000 And she came in into the den 1088 00:54:19,068 --> 00:54:21,310 and we just sat there talking. 1089 00:54:21,310 --> 00:54:25,000 And during the conversation, she said, "By the way, 1090 00:54:25,068 --> 00:54:27,620 I now get to have a boy call me mom. 1091 00:54:27,620 --> 00:54:29,482 Isn't that great?" 1092 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,758 I said, "He's calling you mom?" 1093 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,000 I knew she wanted to be a mom, 1094 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,551 so it didn't surprise me, 1095 00:54:38,551 --> 00:54:41,413 but red hair and a son? 1096 00:54:42,344 --> 00:54:45,137 It was in my mind and I couldn't believe it. 1097 00:54:48,655 --> 00:54:50,620 [Bob] My mom, at that point, looked at her 1098 00:54:50,620 --> 00:54:51,965 and I don't know how 1099 00:54:51,965 --> 00:54:54,000 she didn't just freak out right then and there, 1100 00:54:54,758 --> 00:54:57,689 but somehow she kept it together enough. 1101 00:54:59,241 --> 00:55:01,758 [Jeri] I could hardly wait for her to leave. 1102 00:55:04,448 --> 00:55:07,034 I went across the street to my friend 1103 00:55:07,034 --> 00:55:11,793 and asked her for a copy of the newspaper 1104 00:55:11,793 --> 00:55:14,137 because there was supposed to be a sketch 1105 00:55:14,137 --> 00:55:18,310 in that newspaper of the person doing the murders. 1106 00:55:18,310 --> 00:55:21,655 I looked at the picture again and again. 1107 00:55:22,655 --> 00:55:25,655 I could finally see a tiny resemblance 1108 00:55:25,655 --> 00:55:27,655 that could be Dana, 1109 00:55:27,655 --> 00:55:29,862 but I still couldn't quite believe it. 1110 00:55:32,896 --> 00:55:35,000 I didn't sleep all night. 1111 00:55:35,689 --> 00:55:36,896 All I can think of was... 1112 00:55:37,896 --> 00:55:41,413 these things go together like a puzzle. 1113 00:55:41,413 --> 00:55:43,724 [ominous music playing] 1114 00:55:53,793 --> 00:55:56,000 [Jeri] So the next day, I went to work. 1115 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,413 A few minutes later, Bob arrived. 1116 00:55:58,413 --> 00:56:00,103 [Bob] Well, she came in and asked me 1117 00:56:00,103 --> 00:56:02,689 some questions about Dana. 1118 00:56:02,689 --> 00:56:05,137 Before I even answered, I said, "It's Dana, isn't it? 1119 00:56:07,068 --> 00:56:08,655 It's Dana." 1120 00:56:09,827 --> 00:56:12,034 [Jeri] He looked at me and he said, 1121 00:56:12,034 --> 00:56:14,068 "She did it, didn't she? It's her. 1122 00:56:14,275 --> 00:56:15,793 I knew it. 1123 00:56:15,793 --> 00:56:17,827 I knew it. I should have told you." 1124 00:56:21,206 --> 00:56:24,793 And I said, "Okay. I have just one thing to do." 1125 00:56:24,793 --> 00:56:27,482 [suspenseful music playing] 1126 00:56:34,103 --> 00:56:37,655 I get a phone call and it's Jeri on the phone. 1127 00:56:38,068 --> 00:56:39,517 [Jeri] And I said, "Joe... 1128 00:56:40,344 --> 00:56:42,206 I believe I know who the murderer is." 1129 00:56:42,206 --> 00:56:45,551 [ominous music playing] 1130 00:56:47,862 --> 00:56:50,000 As shocking as it is to imagine, 1131 00:56:50,068 --> 00:56:52,206 Jeri is convinced her stepdaughter Dana 1132 00:56:52,206 --> 00:56:54,482 fits the description of the killer. 1133 00:56:54,482 --> 00:56:55,758 Even so, 1134 00:56:55,758 --> 00:56:57,793 Detective Greco is a long way 1135 00:56:57,793 --> 00:57:00,068 from being able to make an arrest 1136 00:57:00,068 --> 00:57:02,448 until he can put a stop to Dana's havoc, 1137 00:57:02,448 --> 00:57:04,379 no one is safe. 1138 00:57:04,896 --> 00:57:08,206 [tense music playing] 1139 00:57:14,379 --> 00:57:16,931 [telephone ringing] 1140 00:57:18,793 --> 00:57:21,068 Jeri said, "I thought about what you said last night. 1141 00:57:21,068 --> 00:57:23,931 It sounds a lot like my stepdaughter." 1142 00:57:25,862 --> 00:57:29,379 And I proceeded to tell him about the red hair... 1143 00:57:29,896 --> 00:57:31,758 the blond boy. 1144 00:57:33,517 --> 00:57:35,793 The red hair alone didn't bother me. 1145 00:57:35,793 --> 00:57:39,379 It was when she said that the little boy 1146 00:57:39,379 --> 00:57:41,517 could call her mom, 1147 00:57:41,517 --> 00:57:45,206 that the red hair and the boy clicked together. 1148 00:57:46,517 --> 00:57:48,000 I said, "It all fits." 1149 00:57:50,724 --> 00:57:52,896 He said, "Well, there's one thing missing. 1150 00:57:54,241 --> 00:57:55,724 What's the little boy's name?" 1151 00:57:57,620 --> 00:57:59,206 I needed to know the name 1152 00:57:59,206 --> 00:58:00,793 to be able to match it up 1153 00:58:00,793 --> 00:58:03,000 with the name in the appointment book 1154 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,689 from the salon. 1155 00:58:04,689 --> 00:58:07,655 [Jeri] When I repeated the name to Joe... 1156 00:58:08,344 --> 00:58:11,000 he said, "It's a lock." 1157 00:58:14,551 --> 00:58:17,379 Those three words stick with me until this day. 1158 00:58:19,310 --> 00:58:21,586 I was hoping I was wrong. 1159 00:58:21,586 --> 00:58:23,344 You'd never believe something like that 1160 00:58:23,344 --> 00:58:25,655 could happen in your family, 1161 00:58:25,655 --> 00:58:28,827 but it's frightening how she could attack these women. 1162 00:58:30,965 --> 00:58:32,896 Joe told me that he'd let me know 1163 00:58:32,896 --> 00:58:35,206 as soon as they had Dana in custody. 1164 00:58:36,206 --> 00:58:37,655 And so I went home. 1165 00:58:39,551 --> 00:58:41,310 [Donnie] However, Jeri's son, Bob, 1166 00:58:41,310 --> 00:58:43,379 is terrified for her. 1167 00:58:43,379 --> 00:58:45,620 You have no idea how much I did not her... 1168 00:58:45,620 --> 00:58:47,034 Want her going home. 1169 00:58:47,034 --> 00:58:48,689 I told her, "No, you need to stay. 1170 00:58:48,689 --> 00:58:49,896 I'm gonna go home with you." 1171 00:58:49,896 --> 00:58:51,103 And she says, "No, you're not. 1172 00:58:51,103 --> 00:58:53,793 I have to go home and tell Russell." 1173 00:58:53,793 --> 00:58:56,655 Even though I told my son Bob that I was fine 1174 00:58:56,655 --> 00:58:59,931 and I didn't want him to come home with me, 1175 00:58:59,931 --> 00:59:03,034 I could just imagine Dana coming after me. 1176 00:59:03,034 --> 00:59:04,655 I was scared to death. 1177 00:59:07,517 --> 00:59:09,000 At this point, Dana was... 1178 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,793 quickly becoming comfortable with killing. 1179 00:59:11,793 --> 00:59:13,793 The retaliation didn't necessarily need 1180 00:59:13,793 --> 00:59:16,206 to fall on strangers. 1181 00:59:16,206 --> 00:59:18,379 It may have become more focused on people 1182 00:59:18,379 --> 00:59:23,034 she directly felt hatred towards, which was Jeri. 1183 00:59:23,034 --> 00:59:26,206 So I went home, I got Russell's gun, 1184 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,103 put my dog on a leash, and waited. 1185 00:59:31,413 --> 00:59:33,482 I kept an eye on the two doors 1186 00:59:33,482 --> 00:59:35,793 that you could enter from the street. 1187 00:59:36,827 --> 00:59:39,344 They were both locked, but she had a key. 1188 00:59:40,206 --> 00:59:42,344 So if she came through one door, 1189 00:59:42,344 --> 00:59:44,241 I was gonna run out the other. 1190 00:59:44,241 --> 00:59:46,379 And if I couldn't get out, 1191 00:59:46,379 --> 00:59:48,862 last choice would have been the gun. 1192 00:59:52,344 --> 00:59:54,586 Luckily for me, she didn't come, 1193 00:59:55,793 --> 00:59:57,344 and Russell did. 1194 00:59:59,344 --> 01:00:01,965 And then I had the biggest job of all, 1195 01:00:02,413 --> 01:00:04,482 I had to tell Russ. 1196 01:00:07,068 --> 01:00:09,724 [Bob] I can't imagine how that conversation went. 1197 01:00:09,724 --> 01:00:11,655 To think that you're gonna tell your husband 1198 01:00:11,655 --> 01:00:14,965 that his daughter is the serial killer 1199 01:00:14,965 --> 01:00:17,275 that's killing not only random people, 1200 01:00:17,275 --> 01:00:20,586 killing two people they knew, brutally. 1201 01:00:21,068 --> 01:00:23,448 I don't know how she did it. 1202 01:00:23,448 --> 01:00:27,206 [Jeri] I said, "Russ, I discovered who the murderer is." 1203 01:00:28,172 --> 01:00:30,137 And he said, "Who is it?" 1204 01:00:32,758 --> 01:00:35,137 And I said, "It was Dana." 1205 01:00:37,655 --> 01:00:41,241 He just looked at me. He didn't believe me. 1206 01:00:41,241 --> 01:00:46,482 It was totally, uh, something he could not comprehend. 1207 01:00:47,551 --> 01:00:50,206 And I said, "They are trying to find Dana now. 1208 01:00:50,206 --> 01:00:52,103 They're trying to pick her up." 1209 01:00:52,103 --> 01:00:55,379 [suspenseful music playing] 1210 01:00:57,793 --> 01:00:59,896 [Donnie] Back at police headquarters, 1211 01:00:59,896 --> 01:01:03,000 Detective Greco knows it's only a matter of time 1212 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,103 before Dana will need to feel the thrill 1213 01:01:05,103 --> 01:01:06,551 of killing again. 1214 01:01:06,551 --> 01:01:08,103 He rushes out to get a warrant 1215 01:01:08,103 --> 01:01:09,620 to search her house. 1216 01:01:09,620 --> 01:01:11,862 [Greco] I immediately called Rich Bentley, 1217 01:01:11,862 --> 01:01:13,344 the DA in this case, 1218 01:01:13,344 --> 01:01:15,931 and I said, "I think I know who the suspect is." 1219 01:01:15,931 --> 01:01:19,172 I gave Rich all the information that I had, 1220 01:01:19,172 --> 01:01:22,000 and Rich goes, "I don't think we have enough." 1221 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,862 And I said, "Well, I'm gonna write a search warrant on her house, 1222 01:01:25,862 --> 01:01:28,448 and I'm gonna see if I can get a search warrant signed by a judge." 1223 01:01:30,482 --> 01:01:32,103 I write the search warrant. 1224 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,000 I take it to a judge, 1225 01:01:35,655 --> 01:01:38,517 and the judge looks at my search warrant 1226 01:01:38,517 --> 01:01:39,931 and signs off on it. 1227 01:01:42,344 --> 01:01:45,448 And I think he said something like, happy hunting. 1228 01:01:45,448 --> 01:01:47,862 So I was excited. I was excited. 1229 01:01:49,206 --> 01:01:51,586 And in the meantime, 1230 01:01:51,586 --> 01:01:54,724 we set up a task force 1231 01:01:54,724 --> 01:01:56,310 to see if we could find Dana. 1232 01:01:58,172 --> 01:02:01,034 Uh, unfortunately, it was... It was a little too late. 1233 01:02:01,034 --> 01:02:04,275 [dramatic music playing] 1234 01:02:11,241 --> 01:02:14,103 [Donnie] As police search for Dana Sue Gray, 1235 01:02:14,103 --> 01:02:16,620 she's out hunting for her next victim. 1236 01:02:16,620 --> 01:02:18,620 This time, without bringing along 1237 01:02:18,620 --> 01:02:20,517 her boyfriend's five-year-old son, 1238 01:02:20,517 --> 01:02:25,482 she singles out 87-year-old Dora Beebe. 1239 01:02:28,586 --> 01:02:31,344 [Martha] Dana was in a shopping center, 1240 01:02:31,344 --> 01:02:35,793 saw Dora go into a bank, 1241 01:02:35,793 --> 01:02:40,137 and she saw her leave the bank 1242 01:02:40,137 --> 01:02:42,482 and go home, 1243 01:02:42,482 --> 01:02:45,724 and she followed her to her home. 1244 01:02:51,724 --> 01:02:55,000 Dana goes from extended family 1245 01:02:55,551 --> 01:02:59,655 to a close family associate, 1246 01:02:59,655 --> 01:03:02,620 to someone she had cased out 1247 01:03:02,620 --> 01:03:05,068 but did not personally know, 1248 01:03:05,068 --> 01:03:07,000 to a total stranger. 1249 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,103 [suspenseful music playing] 1250 01:03:10,103 --> 01:03:11,862 [doorbell rings] 1251 01:03:11,862 --> 01:03:15,379 [Martha] She goes up to Dora's door 1252 01:03:15,379 --> 01:03:18,793 and pretends that she's lost. 1253 01:03:20,206 --> 01:03:22,413 This seems to have been... 1254 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,172 the ruse she used to get in the door. 1255 01:03:26,172 --> 01:03:28,793 [tense music playing] 1256 01:03:32,241 --> 01:03:37,068 She brings no weapon into Dora's house. 1257 01:03:37,068 --> 01:03:41,413 She makes use of the telephone cord again. 1258 01:03:43,034 --> 01:03:44,000 [woman screams] 1259 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,137 And this time, 1260 01:03:48,137 --> 01:03:51,862 she makes use of an iron. 1261 01:03:51,862 --> 01:03:56,724 There are different patterns that killers will use. 1262 01:03:56,724 --> 01:03:59,862 When you start using household objects, 1263 01:04:00,482 --> 01:04:02,344 in general, 1264 01:04:02,344 --> 01:04:05,586 that's somebody who is inventing it 1265 01:04:05,586 --> 01:04:08,517 on the fly to some degree. 1266 01:04:09,655 --> 01:04:11,103 [Greco] Dora Beebe was beaten 1267 01:04:11,103 --> 01:04:14,275 with a clothes iron, and she was hit so hard 1268 01:04:14,275 --> 01:04:15,586 with the clothes iron 1269 01:04:15,586 --> 01:04:17,724 that it dented the clothes iron. 1270 01:04:18,793 --> 01:04:20,482 And Dora Beebe was on the ground 1271 01:04:20,482 --> 01:04:22,931 almost in a defensive posture, 1272 01:04:22,931 --> 01:04:26,172 as if she was trying to block her face from getting hit. 1273 01:04:26,172 --> 01:04:29,655 [tense music playing] 1274 01:04:29,655 --> 01:04:30,793 There was blood spatter 1275 01:04:30,793 --> 01:04:32,655 that surrounded her on the walls, 1276 01:04:32,655 --> 01:04:35,793 and there was a bloodied soap next to the sink, 1277 01:04:35,793 --> 01:04:37,275 which made me think Dana 1278 01:04:37,275 --> 01:04:40,344 may have started to clean up the scene. 1279 01:04:42,689 --> 01:04:44,931 [Dobson] The murder of Dora Beebe 1280 01:04:44,931 --> 01:04:48,931 shows me that Dana was getting more into this. 1281 01:04:48,931 --> 01:04:52,068 We have an escalation of the crime 1282 01:04:52,482 --> 01:04:53,896 from picking the victim 1283 01:04:53,896 --> 01:04:56,275 to the violence and force that was used. 1284 01:04:57,448 --> 01:04:59,275 [Martha] With the evolution 1285 01:04:59,275 --> 01:05:01,310 of the four incidents, 1286 01:05:01,310 --> 01:05:05,000 violence becomes easier. 1287 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,172 She's kind of desensitized herself to it. 1288 01:05:10,413 --> 01:05:13,310 [Donnie] Once Dana is sure that Dora is dead, 1289 01:05:13,310 --> 01:05:15,172 she takes her trophy. 1290 01:05:15,172 --> 01:05:17,655 She took Dora's bank book 1291 01:05:17,655 --> 01:05:19,586 and went to the bank 1292 01:05:20,482 --> 01:05:23,931 and obtained $2,000. 1293 01:05:23,931 --> 01:05:26,724 So again, she is... 1294 01:05:26,724 --> 01:05:28,275 finding trophies. 1295 01:05:28,275 --> 01:05:31,172 She is rewarding herself for what she has done. 1296 01:05:31,172 --> 01:05:32,793 She is happy 1297 01:05:32,793 --> 01:05:35,793 after she had taken the life of another elderly woman. 1298 01:05:37,241 --> 01:05:40,793 [Martha] She is taking care of her own 1299 01:05:40,793 --> 01:05:43,793 narcissistic needs. 1300 01:05:43,793 --> 01:05:47,517 "I need to go get money out of her bank account 1301 01:05:47,517 --> 01:05:51,448 so I can get what I want and what I need." 1302 01:05:52,448 --> 01:05:55,137 Ultimately, Dana felt the world 1303 01:05:55,137 --> 01:05:58,172 had deprived her of these things, 1304 01:05:58,172 --> 01:06:00,379 so she was going to take them. 1305 01:06:00,379 --> 01:06:03,655 [tense music playing] 1306 01:06:06,655 --> 01:06:07,965 [Donnie] But police don't know 1307 01:06:07,965 --> 01:06:09,620 about the murder of Dora Beebe 1308 01:06:09,620 --> 01:06:13,000 when they finally catch up with Dana Sue Gray. 1309 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,310 [Greco] We hit her boyfriend's house 1310 01:06:15,310 --> 01:06:16,517 in Lake Elsinore. 1311 01:06:16,517 --> 01:06:18,034 I'm in the lead. I've got all these guys 1312 01:06:18,034 --> 01:06:19,758 with me with guns. 1313 01:06:19,758 --> 01:06:21,275 Dana goes, "What's this about?" 1314 01:06:21,275 --> 01:06:24,241 And I go, "I think you know what this is about." 1315 01:06:24,551 --> 01:06:26,068 And I handcuff her. 1316 01:06:26,068 --> 01:06:28,000 I go, "You're under arrest." 1317 01:06:29,482 --> 01:06:30,724 Once I took her into custody, 1318 01:06:30,724 --> 01:06:32,655 we did the follow-up investigation 1319 01:06:32,655 --> 01:06:34,620 with Dorinda Hawkins and she picked her out 1320 01:06:34,620 --> 01:06:36,379 of a photo line so she's... 1321 01:06:36,379 --> 01:06:37,517 No problem. 1322 01:06:37,517 --> 01:06:39,137 She picked her right out. 1323 01:06:39,137 --> 01:06:42,103 She said the hair is different, but that's her. 1324 01:06:42,103 --> 01:06:44,137 It all just kinda fell into place. 1325 01:06:44,586 --> 01:06:46,379 Once Dana was in custody, 1326 01:06:46,379 --> 01:06:47,586 there was a house of cards. 1327 01:06:47,586 --> 01:06:48,724 It fell in. 1328 01:06:48,724 --> 01:06:52,000 [ominous music playing] 1329 01:06:52,689 --> 01:06:56,000 [tense music playing] 1330 01:07:02,103 --> 01:07:04,000 [tense music playing] 1331 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,137 [Greco] So we get Dana into the station, 1332 01:07:06,137 --> 01:07:08,172 put her in the interview room. 1333 01:07:09,517 --> 01:07:11,586 And as I'm walking through the station, 1334 01:07:11,586 --> 01:07:13,206 I saw two detectives 1335 01:07:13,206 --> 01:07:15,034 from the Riverside County Sheriff's Department 1336 01:07:15,034 --> 01:07:17,034 using our report writing room. 1337 01:07:17,758 --> 01:07:19,379 And I go, "What are you guys doing here?" 1338 01:07:19,379 --> 01:07:22,827 And they go, "We had a murder tonight in Sun City." 1339 01:07:25,620 --> 01:07:27,724 The person that found Dora Beebe 1340 01:07:27,724 --> 01:07:30,724 was a long-term boyfriend 1341 01:07:30,724 --> 01:07:33,103 who had observed the body in the house 1342 01:07:33,103 --> 01:07:37,034 and called to report her as being murdered. 1343 01:07:37,655 --> 01:07:39,620 I know I should have thought, 1344 01:07:39,620 --> 01:07:41,241 "Wait a minute, there's a connection?" 1345 01:07:41,241 --> 01:07:43,551 It didn't... It didn't hit me at that point. 1346 01:07:43,551 --> 01:07:46,206 And I was just too focused on interviewing Dana. 1347 01:07:46,862 --> 01:07:49,344 So we get Dana in the interview room, 1348 01:07:49,344 --> 01:07:51,000 do the Miranda rights, 1349 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,000 she waives her rights, 1350 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,793 agrees to speak. 1351 01:07:54,793 --> 01:07:56,344 She starts making mentions 1352 01:07:56,344 --> 01:07:59,758 of finding this purse 1353 01:07:59,758 --> 01:08:03,000 and using the card. 1354 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,379 And I'm confused. I'm like, "What are we talking about? 1355 01:08:06,379 --> 01:08:08,103 What was the name on the card, right?" 1356 01:08:08,103 --> 01:08:09,758 And she brings up the victim's name. 1357 01:08:09,758 --> 01:08:11,103 She goes, "Dora Beebe." 1358 01:08:11,103 --> 01:08:12,724 And it hits me. 1359 01:08:15,103 --> 01:08:16,827 So I get up in the middle of the interview 1360 01:08:16,827 --> 01:08:18,482 and I walk to the Riverside detectives 1361 01:08:18,482 --> 01:08:20,482 and I go, "What's the name of your victim?" 1362 01:08:20,482 --> 01:08:22,344 He goes, "Dora Beebe." 1363 01:08:22,344 --> 01:08:25,655 I go, "Don't go anywhere. I got your suspect." 1364 01:08:28,931 --> 01:08:31,000 [Donnie] With Dana now in custody, 1365 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,827 police execute the search of her home. 1366 01:08:34,517 --> 01:08:35,931 In Dana Sue Gray's home, 1367 01:08:35,931 --> 01:08:37,793 there were lots of shopping bags 1368 01:08:37,793 --> 01:08:39,413 filled with miscellaneous items 1369 01:08:39,413 --> 01:08:41,344 that had been recently purchased. 1370 01:08:41,344 --> 01:08:44,586 And that's what we compared to the receipts that we had. 1371 01:08:45,344 --> 01:08:47,241 We looked to see if there was a hairbrush 1372 01:08:47,241 --> 01:08:49,965 containing blonde hair and possibly red hair, 1373 01:08:49,965 --> 01:08:53,068 showing the progression of dyeing her hair. 1374 01:08:53,931 --> 01:08:55,965 In one of her vehicles, the Cadillac, 1375 01:08:55,965 --> 01:08:58,000 we found the box of surgical gloves. 1376 01:08:58,689 --> 01:09:00,172 And so this could be the vehicle 1377 01:09:00,172 --> 01:09:02,517 that was going between locations 1378 01:09:02,517 --> 01:09:04,137 when she was committing the murders. 1379 01:09:05,206 --> 01:09:06,551 [Greco] We had a lot of evidence 1380 01:09:06,551 --> 01:09:09,241 that tied her to all of the victims. 1381 01:09:09,241 --> 01:09:11,896 I remember having to go through every shoe 1382 01:09:11,896 --> 01:09:14,103 to see if we could find a match 1383 01:09:14,103 --> 01:09:15,827 for the Norma Davis scene. 1384 01:09:15,827 --> 01:09:18,000 And we found a shoe 1385 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,000 that matched the exact pattern, 1386 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,620 the exact size. 1387 01:09:21,620 --> 01:09:23,310 She had clothes still 1388 01:09:23,310 --> 01:09:24,758 with tags on them 1389 01:09:24,758 --> 01:09:26,620 where she went on a shopping spree 1390 01:09:26,620 --> 01:09:28,413 with June Roberts' credit card. 1391 01:09:29,034 --> 01:09:30,241 We found the key 1392 01:09:30,241 --> 01:09:32,655 to the cash register in her house 1393 01:09:32,655 --> 01:09:36,103 that went back to Dorinda Hawkins' case. 1394 01:09:36,103 --> 01:09:38,379 And $2,000 that was taken 1395 01:09:38,379 --> 01:09:41,172 from Dora Beebe's bank account in Sun City, 1396 01:09:41,172 --> 01:09:42,965 we found that money in her stockroom. 1397 01:09:42,965 --> 01:09:44,896 [camera shutter clicks] 1398 01:09:44,896 --> 01:09:46,137 [Elissa] And there were threads 1399 01:09:46,137 --> 01:09:48,068 that ran through each of those cases 1400 01:09:48,068 --> 01:09:49,655 that tied them all together, 1401 01:09:49,655 --> 01:09:53,310 Dana Sue Gray being the hub where the evidence 1402 01:09:53,310 --> 01:09:54,827 that we obtained from her home 1403 01:09:54,827 --> 01:09:57,344 tied her to the other scenes. 1404 01:09:57,344 --> 01:10:00,241 The victimology and all of the different scenes, 1405 01:10:00,241 --> 01:10:02,379 similar type of victim, 1406 01:10:02,379 --> 01:10:05,275 female victims, elderly, some vulnerable, 1407 01:10:05,275 --> 01:10:07,103 all of those made me believe 1408 01:10:07,103 --> 01:10:10,655 that we had in fact the right individual. 1409 01:10:11,586 --> 01:10:13,931 [tense music playing] 1410 01:10:14,620 --> 01:10:16,103 [Tim] News leaked that they had made 1411 01:10:16,103 --> 01:10:17,586 the arrests. 1412 01:10:17,586 --> 01:10:18,827 It's totally shocking to me. 1413 01:10:18,827 --> 01:10:20,310 I mean, I just found out just now 1414 01:10:20,310 --> 01:10:21,689 that this is the person. 1415 01:10:21,689 --> 01:10:24,034 It's such a relief. I can't believe it. 1416 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,172 [Tim] When the news came out, 1417 01:10:26,172 --> 01:10:28,000 they had a big press conference. 1418 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,517 And they were talking to the rarity 1419 01:10:30,517 --> 01:10:32,586 of a female serial killer, 1420 01:10:32,586 --> 01:10:35,137 the rarity of a woman 1421 01:10:35,137 --> 01:10:36,965 using violence 1422 01:10:36,965 --> 01:10:40,931 as opposed to more of a quiet means, 1423 01:10:40,931 --> 01:10:43,448 which most female serial killers 1424 01:10:43,448 --> 01:10:45,413 are associated with. 1425 01:10:45,413 --> 01:10:47,896 There are not a lot of female serial killers, 1426 01:10:47,896 --> 01:10:50,482 and Dana Sue Gray appears to be 1427 01:10:50,482 --> 01:10:54,034 one of the most lethal and cunning. 1428 01:10:55,103 --> 01:10:56,896 You can see in her pattern 1429 01:10:56,896 --> 01:10:58,724 that it would have only continued 1430 01:10:58,724 --> 01:11:02,551 to become more vicious and led to more victims. 1431 01:11:04,586 --> 01:11:07,275 I think she's a thrill killer 1432 01:11:07,275 --> 01:11:09,655 and a retribution killer. 1433 01:11:09,655 --> 01:11:13,103 Retribution was very large 1434 01:11:13,103 --> 01:11:15,344 in her mind, I believe, 1435 01:11:15,344 --> 01:11:18,137 "Because the whole world refused to give me 1436 01:11:18,137 --> 01:11:19,862 what I wanted, 1437 01:11:19,862 --> 01:11:22,241 beginning with my mother, 1438 01:11:22,241 --> 01:11:24,758 who would not give me what I wanted." 1439 01:11:26,206 --> 01:11:27,620 [Donnie] Back at the station, 1440 01:11:27,620 --> 01:11:31,551 Detective Greco questions Dana Sue Gray. 1441 01:11:31,551 --> 01:11:33,275 I think she knew that it was over. 1442 01:11:33,275 --> 01:11:34,931 I think she knew it was up. 1443 01:11:35,689 --> 01:11:36,965 We have finally caught her. 1444 01:11:36,965 --> 01:11:39,137 She was crying the whole time. 1445 01:11:40,137 --> 01:11:42,758 [Dobson] It was very strategic crying. 1446 01:11:42,758 --> 01:11:45,413 She was not genuinely remorseful. 1447 01:11:45,413 --> 01:11:48,344 She was pissed off that she had been caught, 1448 01:11:48,344 --> 01:11:50,586 and her mind was busy trying to figure out 1449 01:11:50,586 --> 01:11:52,689 how the hell to get away with this. 1450 01:11:52,689 --> 01:11:55,344 [ominous music playing] 1451 01:11:55,344 --> 01:11:58,241 [Jeri] Around midnight, a phone call came through. 1452 01:11:58,241 --> 01:11:59,965 It was Joe. 1453 01:12:00,724 --> 01:12:04,034 And he said, "Jeri, she won't admit a thing. 1454 01:12:04,034 --> 01:12:06,034 I think we need Russell down here. 1455 01:12:06,034 --> 01:12:08,379 Maybe she'll admit it to her dad." 1456 01:12:09,793 --> 01:12:11,000 [Greco] She keeps talking about wanting 1457 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:12,344 to see her father. 1458 01:12:12,344 --> 01:12:13,620 So we brought him in there. 1459 01:12:13,620 --> 01:12:14,965 And she was just... 1460 01:12:14,965 --> 01:12:18,551 She was just distraught, crying. 1461 01:12:18,551 --> 01:12:21,206 Made her feel better and he was giving her a hug. 1462 01:12:21,206 --> 01:12:23,103 I'm sure he was completely confused 1463 01:12:23,103 --> 01:12:24,724 by what the heck was going on. 1464 01:12:24,724 --> 01:12:26,172 He didn't know what we had 1465 01:12:26,724 --> 01:12:28,413 or what the evidence was. 1466 01:12:30,620 --> 01:12:33,000 [Jeri] Russell was in there quite some time. 1467 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,137 He came out, he had tears in his eyes. 1468 01:12:37,137 --> 01:12:40,379 He said, "Jeri, she said she didn't do it." 1469 01:12:41,413 --> 01:12:44,689 She said, "Daddy, I didn't hurt anyone." 1470 01:12:44,689 --> 01:12:48,000 [tense music playing] 1471 01:12:54,965 --> 01:12:57,000 Dana never admitted to anything, 1472 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:58,448 you know, in that room. 1473 01:12:59,137 --> 01:13:00,344 [Dobson] I think the person 1474 01:13:00,344 --> 01:13:03,689 in the interrogation was a new Dana. 1475 01:13:03,689 --> 01:13:08,172 We've got this forceful lioness of a woman 1476 01:13:08,517 --> 01:13:09,827 who just got cornered. 1477 01:13:09,827 --> 01:13:12,241 He was going to work very hard 1478 01:13:12,241 --> 01:13:15,206 to lie, fabricate her story, 1479 01:13:15,206 --> 01:13:16,310 and manipulate 1480 01:13:16,310 --> 01:13:18,172 all the individuals around her. 1481 01:13:19,517 --> 01:13:21,068 [Jeri] That night after the interview 1482 01:13:21,068 --> 01:13:22,413 with Dana, 1483 01:13:23,137 --> 01:13:24,379 Russell and I talked 1484 01:13:24,379 --> 01:13:27,000 and he accepted that it must be true 1485 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,793 but he couldn't believe it. 1486 01:13:30,448 --> 01:13:33,000 He wasn't angry with me for turning her in. 1487 01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:34,758 He said that he probably thought 1488 01:13:34,758 --> 01:13:36,482 I had saved lives. 1489 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,241 That day Russell changed. 1490 01:13:39,896 --> 01:13:42,172 He became very withdrawn. 1491 01:13:42,172 --> 01:13:45,000 He only had a few close friends, 1492 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,000 but the rest of the world, he just kind of shut out. 1493 01:13:48,793 --> 01:13:51,310 I don't know if Russell slept that night. 1494 01:13:51,310 --> 01:13:53,000 I did, finally. 1495 01:13:53,965 --> 01:13:55,172 Dana was in custody 1496 01:13:55,172 --> 01:13:57,448 and she couldn't hurt anybody else. 1497 01:13:59,517 --> 01:14:02,551 [Donnie] Dana sits in jail waiting for her trial 1498 01:14:02,551 --> 01:14:06,103 and clinging to her claim of innocence. 1499 01:14:06,103 --> 01:14:08,724 [Tim] Several days after she was arrested 1500 01:14:08,724 --> 01:14:09,931 and in custody, 1501 01:14:09,931 --> 01:14:11,379 I went to the jail 1502 01:14:11,379 --> 01:14:13,931 in hopes of getting an interview with her. 1503 01:14:14,172 --> 01:14:16,551 I got in the jail 1504 01:14:16,551 --> 01:14:19,862 and went up to the women's floor 1505 01:14:22,172 --> 01:14:24,275 and she saw me there. 1506 01:14:25,655 --> 01:14:27,448 I identified myself 1507 01:14:27,448 --> 01:14:29,793 and told her I had reported about it. 1508 01:14:31,620 --> 01:14:33,103 And I said, "This is your opportunity 1509 01:14:33,103 --> 01:14:35,206 to set the records straight." 1510 01:14:35,896 --> 01:14:38,275 Dana was scowling 1511 01:14:38,275 --> 01:14:40,448 like a angry demeanor. 1512 01:14:41,586 --> 01:14:43,310 She just said no and walked away. 1513 01:14:46,172 --> 01:14:49,310 [Donnie] Dana refuses to admit any involvement 1514 01:14:49,310 --> 01:14:52,000 in the gruesome deaths of Norma Davis, 1515 01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,275 June Roberts, and Dora Beebe, 1516 01:14:54,275 --> 01:14:58,413 or the assault and robbery of Dorinda Hawkins. 1517 01:14:58,413 --> 01:14:59,965 But with the staggering amount 1518 01:14:59,965 --> 01:15:01,586 of evidence against her, 1519 01:15:01,586 --> 01:15:04,413 the prosecution is seeking the death penalty. 1520 01:15:05,275 --> 01:15:07,413 Dana pleads not guilty, 1521 01:15:07,413 --> 01:15:09,517 but there's a catch. 1522 01:15:11,034 --> 01:15:15,689 She pled not guilty by reason of insanity. 1523 01:15:16,241 --> 01:15:17,517 At which point, 1524 01:15:17,517 --> 01:15:21,862 I was requested to conduct an evaluation 1525 01:15:21,862 --> 01:15:25,379 by Rich Bentley, the District Attorney. 1526 01:15:27,827 --> 01:15:30,517 Over my professional life, 1527 01:15:30,517 --> 01:15:34,241 I've evaluated many serial killers. 1528 01:15:35,172 --> 01:15:38,862 But this is the only female serial killer 1529 01:15:38,862 --> 01:15:40,620 that I ever saw. 1530 01:15:41,344 --> 01:15:43,000 They are very rare. 1531 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:47,000 Dana understood what her job was. 1532 01:15:50,137 --> 01:15:51,896 To convince me 1533 01:15:51,896 --> 01:15:53,310 that at the time 1534 01:15:53,310 --> 01:15:55,931 she did not know what she was doing. 1535 01:15:57,586 --> 01:16:00,241 She cried a number of times, 1536 01:16:00,241 --> 01:16:03,793 but I noted that sometimes she appeared to cry 1537 01:16:03,793 --> 01:16:06,068 but there were no tears. 1538 01:16:06,758 --> 01:16:10,896 Sometimes, people try to feign sadness 1539 01:16:11,275 --> 01:16:13,344 when there isn't any. 1540 01:16:13,344 --> 01:16:17,517 I never really saw any outright anger. 1541 01:16:17,517 --> 01:16:20,103 She could admit that there was anger 1542 01:16:20,103 --> 01:16:21,758 that had triggered her, 1543 01:16:21,758 --> 01:16:23,793 but I didn't see it. 1544 01:16:23,793 --> 01:16:27,413 I did see a lot of resentment. 1545 01:16:27,413 --> 01:16:30,655 And, "Why me?" 1546 01:16:30,655 --> 01:16:33,896 And, "Look how they done me wrong?" 1547 01:16:35,551 --> 01:16:37,827 She claims that she was 1548 01:16:37,827 --> 01:16:41,517 looking in herself outside herself, 1549 01:16:44,103 --> 01:16:46,034 kind of detached, 1550 01:16:46,034 --> 01:16:48,551 and that she did not remember 1551 01:16:48,551 --> 01:16:51,758 significant portions of what happened, 1552 01:16:51,758 --> 01:16:55,000 but most of the time with serial killer, 1553 01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,448 that's not going to fly. 1554 01:16:57,448 --> 01:16:59,448 With the four murders, 1555 01:16:59,448 --> 01:17:03,241 you have to find yourself in four different places 1556 01:17:03,241 --> 01:17:05,241 at four different times. 1557 01:17:06,034 --> 01:17:09,068 And that you were dissociating 1558 01:17:09,068 --> 01:17:11,655 and you don't quite remember 1559 01:17:11,655 --> 01:17:13,689 doesn't quite cut it. 1560 01:17:15,620 --> 01:17:17,896 The pattern for Dana 1561 01:17:17,896 --> 01:17:22,137 is that there are elements of premeditation 1562 01:17:22,137 --> 01:17:24,448 in all of the killings. 1563 01:17:25,103 --> 01:17:28,103 So I concluded that she did know 1564 01:17:28,103 --> 01:17:30,034 that what she was doing 1565 01:17:30,034 --> 01:17:33,275 was wrong and illegal. 1566 01:17:34,758 --> 01:17:38,206 She did not meet the standard for insanity 1567 01:17:38,206 --> 01:17:41,413 at the time of any of the crimes. 1568 01:17:47,310 --> 01:17:49,241 [Donnie] After years of delays, 1569 01:17:49,241 --> 01:17:54,068 Dana's trial is set to begin on September 8th, 1998. 1570 01:17:54,068 --> 01:17:57,551 But with just a week to go before opening arguments, 1571 01:17:57,551 --> 01:18:00,137 Dana throws everyone a curve ball. 1572 01:18:00,137 --> 01:18:04,413 She pleads guilty to avoid the death penalty. 1573 01:18:04,413 --> 01:18:06,413 [Greco] I think the reason why she took the deal 1574 01:18:06,413 --> 01:18:09,620 was because the psychological evaluations on her 1575 01:18:09,620 --> 01:18:11,103 came back confident 1576 01:18:11,103 --> 01:18:14,586 and then she would've had to gone through a trial. 1577 01:18:14,586 --> 01:18:18,206 And there was just overwhelming evidence 1578 01:18:18,206 --> 01:18:20,034 that would've convicted her. 1579 01:18:23,275 --> 01:18:25,310 Part of the plea bargain agreement was, 1580 01:18:25,310 --> 01:18:26,827 "I'll plead out to these three. 1581 01:18:26,827 --> 01:18:28,586 That would be June Roberts, 1582 01:18:28,586 --> 01:18:31,000 Dorinda Hawkins, and Dora Beebe. 1583 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,034 But you can't come after me for Norma." 1584 01:18:35,448 --> 01:18:37,482 [Bob] I think Dana 1585 01:18:37,482 --> 01:18:39,551 didn't want to admit to anyone 1586 01:18:39,551 --> 01:18:42,862 that she killed my nana, ever, including her dad. 1587 01:18:43,896 --> 01:18:45,137 She can't face anybody 1588 01:18:45,137 --> 01:18:47,103 if she says she killed my nana. 1589 01:18:49,103 --> 01:18:51,482 [Martha] She wanted to have a relationship 1590 01:18:51,482 --> 01:18:52,896 with her father, 1591 01:18:52,896 --> 01:18:56,689 but she would have lost that relationship 1592 01:18:56,689 --> 01:19:00,068 had she admitted to killing Norma. 1593 01:19:00,068 --> 01:19:01,103 [Dobson] And she doesn't want 1594 01:19:01,103 --> 01:19:02,068 to lose the support 1595 01:19:02,068 --> 01:19:03,620 of her father's money 1596 01:19:03,620 --> 01:19:07,206 and putting money on the books for her canteen. 1597 01:19:07,206 --> 01:19:09,724 She is the perfect pairing 1598 01:19:09,724 --> 01:19:12,965 of that entitlement and narcissism 1599 01:19:12,965 --> 01:19:18,758 and that antisocial behavioral harm to others. 1600 01:19:18,758 --> 01:19:21,724 Lack of remorse, does not give a [bleep]. 1601 01:19:23,448 --> 01:19:26,413 But Norma had to be off the table 1602 01:19:26,413 --> 01:19:28,689 for her to be willing to confess 1603 01:19:28,689 --> 01:19:31,931 to the other incidents. 1604 01:19:35,413 --> 01:19:38,517 The victims' families were all consulted 1605 01:19:38,517 --> 01:19:41,137 as to whether they approved of this 1606 01:19:41,137 --> 01:19:43,000 but not my family. 1607 01:19:44,827 --> 01:19:48,310 They were not contacted in any way, 1608 01:19:48,310 --> 01:19:50,827 and they deeply resented it. 1609 01:19:52,482 --> 01:19:55,379 They really thought they should've had a voice 1610 01:19:55,379 --> 01:19:57,689 in what happened to her. 1611 01:19:57,689 --> 01:20:00,206 [Donnie] In exchange for her guilty plea, 1612 01:20:00,206 --> 01:20:03,103 Dana is sentenced to life in prison 1613 01:20:03,103 --> 01:20:04,448 without parole. 1614 01:20:06,172 --> 01:20:07,655 I don't have a problem with her 1615 01:20:07,655 --> 01:20:09,000 getting life without parole. 1616 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,655 I do have a problem with her not being charged 1617 01:20:10,655 --> 01:20:12,103 of my nana's murder. 1618 01:20:14,758 --> 01:20:17,172 [Jeri] Dana has never said to me 1619 01:20:17,172 --> 01:20:19,482 or to anyone else that I know of 1620 01:20:19,482 --> 01:20:21,586 that she feels anything 1621 01:20:21,586 --> 01:20:23,724 for these people that she killed. 1622 01:20:24,551 --> 01:20:26,758 The closest she ever came to it 1623 01:20:26,758 --> 01:20:28,448 was in a letter to me 1624 01:20:29,241 --> 01:20:32,758 in which she said, "Yes, there is remorse." 1625 01:20:34,241 --> 01:20:36,551 To me, that's not an apology. 1626 01:20:36,551 --> 01:20:38,586 It's not an explanation. 1627 01:20:38,586 --> 01:20:40,758 It left me with just as many doubts 1628 01:20:40,758 --> 01:20:42,275 as I've had before. 1629 01:20:43,413 --> 01:20:47,724 I did visit Dana when she was in the facility. 1630 01:20:47,724 --> 01:20:50,482 I took Russ there on a weekly basis. 1631 01:20:51,413 --> 01:20:53,000 The first time it was fine. 1632 01:20:54,551 --> 01:20:57,275 The next time we went to see Dana, 1633 01:20:57,275 --> 01:20:59,241 I suddenly got ill. 1634 01:21:02,448 --> 01:21:05,689 I felt like I was in the presence of evil, 1635 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,344 just plain evil. 1636 01:21:09,034 --> 01:21:10,689 I was sick to my stomach. 1637 01:21:11,758 --> 01:21:15,310 I left the room immediately and went downstairs to wait. 1638 01:21:17,172 --> 01:21:18,551 I don't know why I got sick 1639 01:21:18,551 --> 01:21:21,137 but I couldn't stand to see Dana. 1640 01:21:21,137 --> 01:21:23,000 And I never went back. 1641 01:21:24,586 --> 01:21:27,517 [tense music playing] 1642 01:21:27,517 --> 01:21:30,413 [Bob] My only closure is that every day she lives, 1643 01:21:30,413 --> 01:21:32,586 it's probably not a good day for her. 1644 01:21:32,586 --> 01:21:35,586 She's got a tough time and she's had to think about 1645 01:21:35,586 --> 01:21:37,448 all the horrible, horrible things 1646 01:21:37,448 --> 01:21:38,793 that she's done. 1647 01:21:40,655 --> 01:21:43,793 Had she had a chance to hone her crime, 1648 01:21:45,413 --> 01:21:47,517 and not have been caught, 1649 01:21:50,103 --> 01:21:53,482 I think she would've been one of the most notorious killers 1650 01:21:53,482 --> 01:21:55,448 of our time. 1651 01:21:55,448 --> 01:21:59,068 It made me realize that killers walk among us. 1652 01:22:01,758 --> 01:22:03,275 And you don't even know it. 1653 01:22:04,655 --> 01:22:06,862 They can be your cousin, 1654 01:22:06,862 --> 01:22:08,275 your grandchild, 1655 01:22:08,275 --> 01:22:10,724 your neighbor, 1656 01:22:10,724 --> 01:22:12,000 your friend, 1657 01:22:13,034 --> 01:22:14,551 your stepdaughter, 1658 01:22:15,793 --> 01:22:19,586 somebody you've skydived with. 1659 01:22:19,586 --> 01:22:21,517 [Jeri] I don't know why Dana did this. 1660 01:22:21,517 --> 01:22:23,896 She wanted what she didn't have. 1661 01:22:24,655 --> 01:22:27,275 She thought I had more money than I did 1662 01:22:28,034 --> 01:22:29,689 so she wanted that. 1663 01:22:29,689 --> 01:22:31,517 She wanted the condo. 1664 01:22:33,206 --> 01:22:35,448 She wanted a better car. 1665 01:22:36,655 --> 01:22:38,620 She just plain wanted. 1666 01:22:42,413 --> 01:22:45,655 [ominous music playing] 1667 01:22:47,413 --> 01:22:49,931 Dana Sue Gray's month-long murder spree 1668 01:22:49,931 --> 01:22:53,275 terrorized the people in her community and beyond. 1669 01:22:53,275 --> 01:22:55,448 She chose elderly victims 1670 01:22:55,448 --> 01:22:57,172 who couldn't fight back, 1671 01:22:57,172 --> 01:23:00,000 easy targets for this twisted psychopath 1672 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,862 who seemed to crave the thrill of killing. 1673 01:23:02,862 --> 01:23:04,862 To this day, the families of her victims 1674 01:23:04,862 --> 01:23:07,000 remain haunted by the nurse who became one 1675 01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:11,000 of America's most notorious female serial killers. 1676 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:12,551 I'm Donnie Wahlberg, 1677 01:23:12,551 --> 01:23:14,137 thanks for watching. 1678 01:23:14,137 --> 01:23:15,275 Good night.