1 00:00:14,042 --> 00:00:16,172 I'll be coming up to your children. 2 00:00:16,250 --> 00:00:18,380 And I'll do whatever it takes 3 00:00:18,459 --> 00:00:22,959 to preserve my life on the planet earth. 4 00:00:23,042 --> 00:00:26,582 Because I am a selfish, bitter, no-account, 5 00:00:26,667 --> 00:00:28,577 vicious snake. 6 00:00:53,125 --> 00:00:55,205 Welcome to "very scary people." 7 00:00:55,292 --> 00:00:56,712 I'm Donnie wahlberg. 8 00:00:56,792 --> 00:01:00,502 Charles manson, a twisted cult leader bent on violence, 9 00:01:00,584 --> 00:01:03,964 has led his followers in a series of vicious murders. 10 00:01:04,042 --> 00:01:05,332 His goal? 11 00:01:05,417 --> 00:01:07,537 To start a race war between blacks and whites... 12 00:01:07,626 --> 00:01:10,536 A conflict he calls helter skelter. 13 00:01:10,626 --> 00:01:13,376 His murder weapons are members of his commune... 14 00:01:13,459 --> 00:01:16,079 Impressionable young people, many from good families... 15 00:01:16,167 --> 00:01:19,127 Who he manipulates with mind-control techniques, 16 00:01:19,209 --> 00:01:21,579 turning his group of peaceful hippies 17 00:01:21,667 --> 00:01:23,787 into a devoted death squad. 18 00:01:23,876 --> 00:01:25,496 Police have yet to make the connection 19 00:01:25,584 --> 00:01:29,004 between the carnage at two of manson's bloody crime scenes, 20 00:01:29,083 --> 00:01:30,793 and Charlie is way ahead of them. 21 00:01:30,876 --> 00:01:34,496 He wants more death, and he wants it the very next night. 22 00:01:34,584 --> 00:01:36,924 How will investigators ultimately piece it 23 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,250 all together? 24 00:01:38,334 --> 00:01:41,254 Here's part two of "the devil's work." 25 00:01:47,542 --> 00:01:52,132 I spent the best part of my life in boys' schools, 26 00:01:52,209 --> 00:01:54,579 prisons, and reform schools. 27 00:01:56,584 --> 00:01:58,214 You can't understand Charlie manson 28 00:01:58,292 --> 00:02:00,252 without understanding his criminal past 29 00:02:00,334 --> 00:02:01,544 and his time in jail. 30 00:02:01,626 --> 00:02:04,286 In order for him to survive, 31 00:02:04,375 --> 00:02:07,625 he developed skills to manipulate people. 32 00:02:07,709 --> 00:02:11,169 Prison is where manson perfected the art of the con. 33 00:02:11,250 --> 00:02:13,710 He's inspired by a very unlikely source. 34 00:02:13,792 --> 00:02:18,292 His personal guru is none other than Dale carnegie. 35 00:02:18,375 --> 00:02:21,375 "How to win friends and influence people." 36 00:02:21,459 --> 00:02:24,249 And then he used those techniques, 37 00:02:24,334 --> 00:02:26,674 that ability to manipulate, 38 00:02:26,751 --> 00:02:31,711 and eventually get people to kill for him. 39 00:02:31,792 --> 00:02:33,292 When he got out of prison, 40 00:02:33,375 --> 00:02:37,285 Charlie reinvents himself as a guru. 41 00:02:37,375 --> 00:02:42,375 He used the hippie ideals as recruitment tools, 42 00:02:42,459 --> 00:02:47,789 but there was always, at the core, manson's attitudes, 43 00:02:47,876 --> 00:02:51,166 which were darker and more violent 44 00:02:51,250 --> 00:02:55,380 and more angry than the hippie ideal. 45 00:02:55,459 --> 00:03:00,169 Charlie believes he is destined to be a rock star. 46 00:03:00,250 --> 00:03:05,290 And it's just going to come down to can he get one break, 47 00:03:05,375 --> 00:03:08,495 one introduction, and he does. 48 00:03:08,584 --> 00:03:10,174 Manson strikes up a friendship 49 00:03:10,250 --> 00:03:13,790 with Dennis Wilson of the beach boys. 50 00:03:13,876 --> 00:03:15,956 Manson, at Dennis Wilson's house, 51 00:03:16,042 --> 00:03:17,382 met Terry Melcher. 52 00:03:17,459 --> 00:03:20,879 He was a famous record producer at the time. 53 00:03:20,959 --> 00:03:23,079 He was living with his girlfriend, 54 00:03:23,167 --> 00:03:28,207 Candice Bergen, at 10050 cielo drive. 55 00:03:28,292 --> 00:03:30,882 Terry Melcher came to the ranch, 56 00:03:30,959 --> 00:03:34,459 and we did, like, a little recording session. 57 00:03:34,542 --> 00:03:38,382 But it's met with a flat rejection. 58 00:03:38,459 --> 00:03:40,419 Charlie was really upset about that. 59 00:03:40,500 --> 00:03:45,000 Terry Melcher had dashed his hope for a music contract. 60 00:03:45,083 --> 00:03:52,633 In my opinion, that rejection is what led to his desire to kill. 61 00:03:52,709 --> 00:03:55,209 He started holding training classes 62 00:03:55,292 --> 00:03:57,462 for how to commit murder. 63 00:03:59,334 --> 00:04:02,634 Then, on Friday, August the 8th, he said, 64 00:04:02,709 --> 00:04:05,209 "now is the time for helter skelter." 65 00:04:05,292 --> 00:04:09,422 Roman polanski was a very famous director at that time; 66 00:04:09,500 --> 00:04:12,460 Sharon Tate, an up-and-coming young actress. 67 00:04:12,542 --> 00:04:17,042 The newlyweds had moved into 10050 cielo drive. 68 00:04:17,125 --> 00:04:20,205 Manson sends out three women, 69 00:04:20,292 --> 00:04:24,212 with Tex Watson, to the Tate residence. 70 00:04:24,292 --> 00:04:29,962 Manson instructs Tex that he's to go in there 71 00:04:30,042 --> 00:04:36,172 and kill everyone in a gory scene. 72 00:04:36,250 --> 00:04:40,790 Watson and the women proceeded to the house. 73 00:04:40,876 --> 00:04:43,826 Tex Watson said, "we're gonna kill everyone in there." 74 00:04:45,792 --> 00:04:48,502 I remember that I had gone so far, 75 00:04:48,584 --> 00:04:49,714 and there was no turning back, 76 00:04:49,792 --> 00:04:51,132 that even if I had wanted to run, 77 00:04:51,209 --> 00:04:53,499 even if I had wanted to leave, I couldn't. 78 00:04:53,584 --> 00:04:55,214 It was like I was caught in something 79 00:04:55,292 --> 00:04:57,882 that I had no control over. 80 00:04:57,959 --> 00:05:00,129 Sharon Tate and three houseguests... 81 00:05:00,209 --> 00:05:04,329 Jay sebring, Abigail Folger, and wojciech frykowski... 82 00:05:04,417 --> 00:05:08,127 Have no idea what's coming up the driveway. 83 00:05:08,209 --> 00:05:12,829 The people in that house were terrorized, tortured. 84 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,630 Charles manson may not have been there, 85 00:05:19,709 --> 00:05:23,079 but he had given them very specific instructions, 86 00:05:23,167 --> 00:05:25,667 "before you leave, leave a sign." 87 00:05:25,751 --> 00:05:27,421 Susan atkins picks up a towel 88 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:30,500 and dips it in the blood of Sharon Tate, 89 00:05:30,584 --> 00:05:33,214 and on the front door of the house writes the word, 90 00:05:33,292 --> 00:05:34,922 "pig." 91 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,130 In a scene described by one investigator 92 00:05:37,209 --> 00:05:39,289 as reminiscent of a weird religious rite, 93 00:05:39,375 --> 00:05:44,665 five persons including actress Sharon Tate, were found dead. 94 00:05:44,751 --> 00:05:48,211 Incredibly, 19-year-old William garretson, 95 00:05:48,292 --> 00:05:49,882 the fill-in caretaker, 96 00:05:49,959 --> 00:05:53,459 had been just 25 yards away, in the guesthouse, 97 00:05:53,542 --> 00:05:58,582 when these five people were murdered the night before. 98 00:05:58,667 --> 00:06:00,917 The police take William garretson into custody, 99 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,380 and he becomes suspect number one. 100 00:06:06,292 --> 00:06:09,882 As I.A. Homicide detectives are looking, 101 00:06:09,959 --> 00:06:15,919 one of the strangest things was a statement written in blood. 102 00:06:16,042 --> 00:06:20,252 On the front door, they saw the word "pig." 103 00:06:20,334 --> 00:06:24,674 But why is it written here, on Sharon Tate's front door? 104 00:06:26,751 --> 00:06:31,581 Police at the Sharon Tate murder get a call from police 105 00:06:31,667 --> 00:06:35,327 that were investigating the murder of Gary hinman. 106 00:06:35,417 --> 00:06:38,997 Hinman was the musician who was murdered in his own home 107 00:06:39,083 --> 00:06:41,003 a little over a week before. 108 00:06:41,083 --> 00:06:46,043 And they said, "look, we have the murder of Gary hinman", 109 00:06:46,125 --> 00:06:49,205 and there's writing in blood on the wall... 110 00:06:49,292 --> 00:06:51,172 'Political piggy.' 111 00:06:51,250 --> 00:06:55,460 and you have the Tate murders with 'pig' 112 00:06:55,542 --> 00:06:58,792 written in Sharon Tate's blood on the front door. 113 00:07:00,584 --> 00:07:03,584 These murders may well be connected, 114 00:07:03,667 --> 00:07:08,327 "because it's so unusual to have writing in blood." 115 00:07:08,417 --> 00:07:14,327 And... pbht... LAPD not interested. 116 00:07:14,918 --> 00:07:19,078 The LAPD should have made that connection. 117 00:07:19,167 --> 00:07:22,077 The thing would have been solved in a matter of days. 118 00:07:22,167 --> 00:07:26,667 But despite the brutal murders, manson is still not satisfied. 119 00:07:26,751 --> 00:07:31,501 I am very mad, and I don't know whether I can control myself. 120 00:07:50,959 --> 00:07:53,539 Charlie had been talking about the race war, 121 00:07:53,626 --> 00:07:56,786 referring to it as helter skelter. 122 00:07:56,876 --> 00:08:00,166 Manson thought, because of the Tate murders, 123 00:08:00,250 --> 00:08:03,540 helter skelter would begin. 124 00:08:03,626 --> 00:08:06,496 But that bizarre race war manson predicted 125 00:08:06,584 --> 00:08:08,674 still wasn't happening. 126 00:08:10,959 --> 00:08:14,379 So, on August 10th, after everyone else had gone to bed, 127 00:08:14,459 --> 00:08:18,999 manson again gathers a select group of his followers together. 128 00:08:19,083 --> 00:08:23,333 A team of his death squad, his favorite followers, 129 00:08:23,417 --> 00:08:25,747 to commit yet another murder. 130 00:08:25,834 --> 00:08:29,964 There was Tex and manson and Linda kasabian, 131 00:08:30,042 --> 00:08:32,002 Susan, pat, and I. 132 00:08:32,083 --> 00:08:36,083 Manson said he was going to go out with them that night 133 00:08:36,167 --> 00:08:39,287 and show them how to do it right. 134 00:08:39,375 --> 00:08:40,875 We got in the car. 135 00:08:40,959 --> 00:08:42,329 And you drive where? 136 00:08:42,417 --> 00:08:44,247 We drove all over I.A. 137 00:08:44,334 --> 00:08:47,834 Charles manson is actually in the car with Tex 138 00:08:47,918 --> 00:08:51,538 and the girls, looking for what the target will be. 139 00:08:55,334 --> 00:08:59,384 And they went looking for their victims completely at random. 140 00:08:59,459 --> 00:09:02,789 And manson was very agitated. 141 00:09:02,876 --> 00:09:06,876 And kasabian was very nervous and upset, 142 00:09:06,959 --> 00:09:10,379 and he was yelling at her a lot. 143 00:09:10,459 --> 00:09:13,999 Eventually, manson has kasabian pull over at a house 144 00:09:14,083 --> 00:09:16,543 in the I.A. Neighborhood of Los feliz. 145 00:09:16,626 --> 00:09:22,416 The labiancas, a nice middle-upper-class couple. 146 00:09:22,500 --> 00:09:26,960 Leno ran a family business, a chain of small markets. 147 00:09:27,042 --> 00:09:29,882 He had met Rosemary when she was a waitress 148 00:09:29,959 --> 00:09:32,539 at a local restaurant. 149 00:09:32,626 --> 00:09:34,706 They were good family people. 150 00:09:36,584 --> 00:09:38,924 Manson knew that neighborhood. 151 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,380 That's why he brought his killers there. 152 00:09:53,834 --> 00:09:55,214 Charles manson goes up, 153 00:09:55,292 --> 00:09:57,712 looks into the window of the labianca home, 154 00:09:57,792 --> 00:09:59,882 sees leno in the home. 155 00:10:02,709 --> 00:10:06,209 Manson and Watson enter through the backdoor. 156 00:10:06,292 --> 00:10:09,712 The labiancas are tied up and pillowcases 157 00:10:09,792 --> 00:10:12,792 put over their heads. 158 00:10:12,876 --> 00:10:18,206 Manson then left the house, returning to the car. 159 00:10:18,292 --> 00:10:21,042 Manson came back, and he pointed at pat and I 160 00:10:21,125 --> 00:10:25,165 and told us to get out and go do what Tex said, 161 00:10:25,250 --> 00:10:26,540 and then... do whatever Tex said? 162 00:10:26,626 --> 00:10:28,076 Yeah. 163 00:10:28,167 --> 00:10:32,577 He said to Tex to make sure that everybody did something. 164 00:10:32,667 --> 00:10:34,957 Charlie left before the actual murders. 165 00:10:35,042 --> 00:10:40,882 He was not going to be there while murder was committed. 166 00:10:40,959 --> 00:10:43,669 You came in the house with Tex, 167 00:10:43,751 --> 00:10:46,791 and decided to leave and go elsewhere. 168 00:10:46,876 --> 00:10:48,916 I walked with Tex. 169 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,460 What Tex did was Tex' business. 170 00:10:52,542 --> 00:10:54,332 What you do is yours. 171 00:10:54,417 --> 00:10:56,497 I don't tell you what to do. 172 00:10:58,417 --> 00:11:02,577 Manson had other people he could weaponize to do 173 00:11:02,667 --> 00:11:05,627 whatever it was that he wanted done, 174 00:11:05,709 --> 00:11:09,329 rather than to take on the responsibility himself. 175 00:11:09,417 --> 00:11:10,577 Pat and I went in the kitchen. 176 00:11:10,667 --> 00:11:14,037 I think Tex said to get knives. 177 00:11:14,125 --> 00:11:18,625 And pat and I took Mrs. Labianca into the bedroom, 178 00:11:18,709 --> 00:11:21,999 and, um... was she screaming? 179 00:11:22,083 --> 00:11:24,883 Not at that point. Mostly, "what's going on? 180 00:11:24,959 --> 00:11:26,789 What are you going to do?" 181 00:11:26,876 --> 00:11:32,826 Within seconds, Tex Watson begins to stab leno labianca. 182 00:11:32,918 --> 00:11:34,418 Rosemary labianca can hear 183 00:11:34,500 --> 00:11:35,790 what's going on in the living room, 184 00:11:35,876 --> 00:11:38,826 and she can hear her husband being killed. 185 00:11:38,918 --> 00:11:42,208 And she screams out, "what are you doing to my husband?" 186 00:11:42,292 --> 00:11:45,832 She then begins to struggle with Patricia krenwinkel 187 00:11:45,918 --> 00:11:47,578 and Leslie Van houten. 188 00:11:47,667 --> 00:11:50,497 I tried to hold Mrs. Labianca down. 189 00:11:50,584 --> 00:11:54,294 And pat went to stab her, and the knife bent, 190 00:11:54,375 --> 00:11:56,245 and she was yelling out for her husband. 191 00:11:56,334 --> 00:11:59,834 Tex hears the struggle going on and takes control, 192 00:11:59,918 --> 00:12:01,918 and he begins to stab Rosemary. 193 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,580 And then Tex turned me around and he handed me a knife, 194 00:12:05,667 --> 00:12:07,537 and he said, "do something." 195 00:12:07,626 --> 00:12:08,956 And Mrs. Labianca 196 00:12:09,042 --> 00:12:13,082 was laying on the floor, and I stabbed her. Where? 197 00:12:13,167 --> 00:12:16,457 In the lower back, around 16 times. 198 00:12:18,584 --> 00:12:22,294 Patricia krenwinkel had a long carving fork, 199 00:12:22,375 --> 00:12:27,745 a two-pronged fork that she stabbed into leno's stomach. 200 00:12:27,834 --> 00:12:33,674 Then the word, "war" was carved into leno's stomach. 201 00:12:33,751 --> 00:12:38,671 Patricia krenwinkel then wrote in blood on the walls, 202 00:12:38,751 --> 00:12:42,831 the words "rise," "death to pigs," 203 00:12:42,918 --> 00:12:46,328 and then the most famous, "helter skelter," 204 00:12:46,417 --> 00:12:49,917 misspelled on the refrigerator door. 205 00:12:51,792 --> 00:12:53,252 After you went out to the car and drove away, 206 00:12:53,334 --> 00:12:54,754 was there a rush, a high? 207 00:12:54,834 --> 00:12:56,134 There was... we didn't do that. 208 00:12:56,209 --> 00:12:57,209 What did you do? 209 00:12:57,292 --> 00:12:58,922 We went and sat in some bushes. 210 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,460 And I believe it was Tex took milk and cheese from the house. 211 00:13:03,542 --> 00:13:04,752 And you ate? 212 00:13:04,834 --> 00:13:06,584 And we sat in the bushes and had milk and cheese. 213 00:13:06,667 --> 00:13:08,127 And where was manson? 214 00:13:08,209 --> 00:13:09,709 He was gone. 215 00:13:17,042 --> 00:13:22,672 How can relatively normal-looking young people 216 00:13:22,751 --> 00:13:25,421 come up with these awful ideas 217 00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:28,290 and commit these terrible crimes? 218 00:13:28,375 --> 00:13:32,825 Manson fulfilled a core need in his followers' lives. 219 00:13:32,918 --> 00:13:38,458 They felt unloved, and they got what they needed from manson. 220 00:13:38,542 --> 00:13:42,332 He told them that he would be the family they never had. 221 00:13:42,417 --> 00:13:45,917 And the key was, they had to be completely loyal 222 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 and give their lives over to him 223 00:13:48,083 --> 00:13:49,883 if they wanted to be in his family. 224 00:13:49,959 --> 00:13:53,579 They became little Charlie mansons. 225 00:13:53,667 --> 00:13:57,077 They were gleeful and happy to kill. 226 00:14:09,083 --> 00:14:11,633 Fear permeated the city. 227 00:14:11,709 --> 00:14:14,919 No matter where you lived, you were not safe. 228 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,170 Gun sales went off the charts in I.A. 229 00:14:19,250 --> 00:14:23,000 Guard dogs that were selling for $200, 230 00:14:23,083 --> 00:14:26,583 the days before the murder, were now selling for $1,000, 231 00:14:26,667 --> 00:14:29,377 and you had to get on a waiting list for them. 232 00:14:29,459 --> 00:14:32,999 In I.A., actors and actresses were having bodyguards 233 00:14:33,083 --> 00:14:36,673 because, you know, Sharon Tate was an actress married to 234 00:14:36,751 --> 00:14:38,791 a famous director. 235 00:14:38,876 --> 00:14:43,916 It sent shock waves through everyone in Hollywood. 236 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,830 And there was a great deal of fear... 237 00:14:45,918 --> 00:14:50,418 Very tangible fear that rippled through the Hollywood Hills. 238 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,250 LAPD had a group of detectives 239 00:14:59,334 --> 00:15:03,004 working the murders at the Tate residence 240 00:15:03,083 --> 00:15:07,883 and another group of detectives working the labianca murders, 241 00:15:07,959 --> 00:15:13,879 and these two groups weren't really talking to each other. 242 00:15:13,959 --> 00:15:18,249 You've got "pig" on the front door of Sharon Tate's house, 243 00:15:18,334 --> 00:15:23,334 "death to pigs" on the living room in the labianca house. 244 00:15:23,417 --> 00:15:27,377 The minute that the homicide detectives 245 00:15:27,459 --> 00:15:33,789 saw the writing of blood in the labianca double homicide, 246 00:15:33,876 --> 00:15:37,416 they should have brought those investigations together. 247 00:15:37,500 --> 00:15:39,040 The homicides are not connected. 248 00:15:39,125 --> 00:15:40,995 I think the public and a lot of the media had 249 00:15:41,083 --> 00:15:43,213 picked out the fact that they were similar in nature, 250 00:15:43,292 --> 00:15:46,632 possibly because of the blood and the inscriptions. 251 00:15:46,709 --> 00:15:49,079 They should have been one investigation, 252 00:15:49,167 --> 00:15:53,287 looking for one individual or group of individuals 253 00:15:53,375 --> 00:15:56,575 that had committed both of these heinous crimes. 254 00:16:02,667 --> 00:16:05,127 The same day the labiancas are found murdered, 255 00:16:05,209 --> 00:16:07,499 the prime suspect in the Tate case, 256 00:16:07,584 --> 00:16:09,464 19-year-old William garretson, 257 00:16:09,542 --> 00:16:13,752 is abruptly ruled out as a suspect and released. 258 00:16:13,834 --> 00:16:15,174 Late this afternoon, 259 00:16:15,250 --> 00:16:17,130 police released the only suspect they had... 260 00:16:17,209 --> 00:16:21,249 19-year-old William garretson, caretaker at the polanski home. 261 00:16:21,334 --> 00:16:22,884 They give him a polygraph. 262 00:16:22,959 --> 00:16:27,499 He passes the polygraph in flying colors. 263 00:16:27,584 --> 00:16:29,674 Meanwhile, the LAPD has a new theory 264 00:16:29,751 --> 00:16:32,251 why Tate and the four other people killed with her 265 00:16:32,334 --> 00:16:36,754 at her home were targeted in the first place. 266 00:16:36,834 --> 00:16:40,544 It had been determined that the Tate murders were drug-related 267 00:16:40,626 --> 00:16:43,706 and had nothing to do with anyone else. 268 00:16:43,792 --> 00:16:51,332 The autopsy reports showed some drugs in two of the bodies. 269 00:16:53,959 --> 00:16:58,249 And there was marijuana in Jay sebring's car. 270 00:17:01,584 --> 00:17:03,634 Roman polanski and his friends 271 00:17:03,709 --> 00:17:06,709 are quite frustrated with the LAPD 272 00:17:06,792 --> 00:17:09,172 because the LAPD is making it quite clear 273 00:17:09,250 --> 00:17:12,540 that somehow the celebrity lifestyle 274 00:17:12,626 --> 00:17:15,576 led to this horrible scene of murder. 275 00:17:15,667 --> 00:17:19,037 And Roman polanski and his celebrity friends are saying, 276 00:17:19,125 --> 00:17:21,995 "no, that's not it." 277 00:17:22,083 --> 00:17:23,923 Not only are the Tate investigators 278 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,460 on a wild goose chase, 279 00:17:25,542 --> 00:17:28,252 but so are the labianca detectives. 280 00:17:28,334 --> 00:17:33,714 They're looking into leno and his horses and his gambling. 281 00:17:33,792 --> 00:17:38,292 And they find that he may have some gambling that has gone bad. 282 00:17:38,375 --> 00:17:43,205 The idea that the police have is some kind of mafia connection. 283 00:17:43,292 --> 00:17:46,292 Again, they're looking in the wrong track. 284 00:17:51,292 --> 00:17:55,792 A week after the Tate murders, Charles manson and his followers 285 00:17:55,876 --> 00:17:59,246 wake to the sound of unwanted visitors. 286 00:17:59,334 --> 00:18:04,424 The sheriff's department had a big raid on spahn ranch. 287 00:18:09,334 --> 00:18:12,174 They arrested manson. 288 00:18:12,250 --> 00:18:15,670 They arrested other members of the family... 289 00:18:15,751 --> 00:18:17,711 ...for stealing cars. 290 00:18:17,792 --> 00:18:19,292 And the police couldn't understand 291 00:18:19,375 --> 00:18:21,035 when Charlie asked what the charges were 292 00:18:21,125 --> 00:18:25,165 and they said, "car theft," that manson started laughing. 293 00:18:25,250 --> 00:18:28,790 But he had a reason to laugh. 294 00:18:28,876 --> 00:18:30,996 He was relieved. 295 00:18:31,083 --> 00:18:34,253 No one had any idea that they had anything to do 296 00:18:34,334 --> 00:18:36,884 with Tate and labianca. 297 00:18:36,959 --> 00:18:41,629 And they've got the wrong date on the search warrant. 298 00:18:41,709 --> 00:18:45,169 So all of them are now released. 299 00:18:47,459 --> 00:18:50,829 What some of his followers don't realize is that Charlie 300 00:18:50,918 --> 00:18:55,878 had groomed a violent hit squad within the family. 301 00:18:55,959 --> 00:18:58,669 Leslie and Susan and Patty 302 00:18:58,751 --> 00:19:01,961 were telling me how they participated. 303 00:19:02,042 --> 00:19:05,792 Leslie said she stabbed somebody over and over again, 304 00:19:05,876 --> 00:19:08,996 even though they were already dead. 305 00:19:09,083 --> 00:19:12,793 When I found out that Tex had murdered, 306 00:19:12,876 --> 00:19:17,206 it was like the rug had been pulled out from under me. 307 00:19:17,292 --> 00:19:20,422 I had no idea that I was sitting amongst the murderers. 308 00:19:20,500 --> 00:19:24,130 Charlie was getting threatening, and he was quite... he was mean. 309 00:19:24,209 --> 00:19:26,129 He was beating on some of the girls, 310 00:19:26,209 --> 00:19:28,629 specially dianne lake. 311 00:19:28,709 --> 00:19:35,379 And he broke a chair and then beat me with the chair leg. 312 00:19:37,417 --> 00:19:40,917 I was afraid that I would be killed. 313 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:48,540 Manson now realizes that the heat is on with the police, 314 00:19:48,626 --> 00:19:50,626 that they're going to be caught unless they relocate, 315 00:19:50,709 --> 00:19:52,749 so he gathers the manson family 316 00:19:52,834 --> 00:19:56,424 and they move deep into death valley. 317 00:19:56,500 --> 00:20:00,210 250 miles away, manson and his followers 318 00:20:00,292 --> 00:20:03,212 move to an extremely remote place in the desert, 319 00:20:03,292 --> 00:20:05,382 called barker ranch. 320 00:20:07,375 --> 00:20:10,375 In death valley, all of a sudden, 321 00:20:10,459 --> 00:20:14,829 a huge piece of road equipment goes up in flames. 322 00:20:14,918 --> 00:20:17,248 I think it was Charlie and Tex and Bruce 323 00:20:17,334 --> 00:20:19,084 that had started this fire 324 00:20:19,167 --> 00:20:22,877 because the road was blocked with this road grader 325 00:20:22,959 --> 00:20:25,789 and they were mad, and so they decided to burn it. 326 00:20:25,876 --> 00:20:27,326 The inyo county sheriff's department 327 00:20:27,417 --> 00:20:32,127 starts to investigate, and they raid barker ranch 328 00:20:32,209 --> 00:20:36,879 and find dune buggies and engines 329 00:20:36,959 --> 00:20:40,789 and cars that are stolen. 330 00:20:40,876 --> 00:20:44,246 Members of the family had stolen these cars and dune buggies 331 00:20:44,334 --> 00:20:46,174 and were using them for parts. 332 00:20:46,250 --> 00:20:49,130 Manson and the people who were with him 333 00:20:49,209 --> 00:20:51,459 at the time were arrested. 334 00:20:51,542 --> 00:20:52,832 But they're still, at that point, 335 00:20:52,918 --> 00:20:57,378 arresting him for low-level auto theft. 336 00:20:57,459 --> 00:21:01,079 Yet the important thing is, they've got him. 337 00:21:01,167 --> 00:21:04,747 They have the murderers, and they don't know it. 338 00:21:04,834 --> 00:21:07,754 If it hadn't been for the police in death valley 339 00:21:07,834 --> 00:21:10,384 arresting Charles manson and his followers, 340 00:21:10,459 --> 00:21:12,079 he might still be out there. 341 00:21:27,375 --> 00:21:29,825 Charles manson and his followers are under arrest 342 00:21:29,918 --> 00:21:33,128 after a police raid, but not for murder. 343 00:21:33,209 --> 00:21:35,129 They're in custody for auto theft, 344 00:21:35,209 --> 00:21:36,749 and detectives still have no clue 345 00:21:36,834 --> 00:21:37,964 that they're holding the killers 346 00:21:38,042 --> 00:21:40,382 responsible for multiple murders. 347 00:21:40,459 --> 00:21:43,459 But they're about to get an unexpected break in the case. 348 00:21:43,542 --> 00:21:45,042 And the world is about to witness 349 00:21:45,125 --> 00:21:48,285 one of the most bizarre murder trials in U.S. history... 350 00:21:48,375 --> 00:21:50,325 A courtroom spectacle that gives new meaning 351 00:21:50,417 --> 00:21:52,747 to the term "devil's work." 352 00:21:56,292 --> 00:21:59,382 The October 1969 arrests of Charles manson 353 00:21:59,459 --> 00:22:02,249 and many of his followers, for car theft, 354 00:22:02,334 --> 00:22:05,544 has put most of the family members behind bars, 355 00:22:05,626 --> 00:22:08,206 including Susan atkins. 356 00:22:08,292 --> 00:22:11,422 Susan atkins, at the time she was imprisoned, 357 00:22:11,500 --> 00:22:16,380 was surely one of Charlie's most devout followers. 358 00:22:16,459 --> 00:22:21,129 She is taken to what is now Sybil brand, 359 00:22:21,209 --> 00:22:24,129 the I.A. Police holding center, 360 00:22:24,209 --> 00:22:27,079 and she's taken there for questioning. 361 00:22:29,125 --> 00:22:32,535 I was at Sybil brand because I had written a check 362 00:22:32,626 --> 00:22:35,286 and I couldn't cover it. 363 00:22:35,375 --> 00:22:38,415 There was a young, pretty little girl 364 00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:41,330 that was always singing and dancing 365 00:22:41,417 --> 00:22:43,077 and running up and down the aisle, 366 00:22:43,167 --> 00:22:46,417 and so she started talking with me. 367 00:22:48,042 --> 00:22:49,252 She's a blabbermouth. 368 00:22:49,334 --> 00:22:51,714 She had a reputation in the family 369 00:22:51,792 --> 00:22:54,042 of not being able to keep a secret. 370 00:22:54,125 --> 00:22:57,165 And she begins to talk about what happened 371 00:22:57,250 --> 00:22:59,920 in the Tate residence. 372 00:23:01,876 --> 00:23:06,166 She says, "well, you know those murders up Benedict canyon?" 373 00:23:06,250 --> 00:23:13,080 Then, it dawned on me that it was the Tate murders. 374 00:23:13,167 --> 00:23:15,877 She said, "you know who did it, don't you?" 375 00:23:15,959 --> 00:23:17,669 And I looked at her and I said, "no, I don't." 376 00:23:17,751 --> 00:23:20,751 And her words to me, to be exact, were, 377 00:23:20,834 --> 00:23:23,674 "you're looking at her." 378 00:23:23,751 --> 00:23:28,291 I just thought that this was something she dreamed up. 379 00:23:28,375 --> 00:23:31,075 But by an odd twist of fate, Virginia says, 380 00:23:31,167 --> 00:23:36,077 she'd actually been to 10050 cielo drive years earlier, 381 00:23:36,167 --> 00:23:39,327 when she and her husband considered renting the property. 382 00:23:39,417 --> 00:23:44,457 She said they had gotten Jay and Sharon into the living room, 383 00:23:44,542 --> 00:23:47,252 and it had beamed ceilings, 384 00:23:47,334 --> 00:23:52,044 and that's how I knew that she had been in the house. 385 00:23:52,125 --> 00:23:55,955 She took responsibility for murdering Sharon. 386 00:23:56,042 --> 00:24:01,632 She told me that Sharon Tate was crying and was begging her, 387 00:24:01,709 --> 00:24:04,289 "please don't hurt me, don't don't kill me. 388 00:24:04,375 --> 00:24:06,455 I just want to have my baby." 389 00:24:06,542 --> 00:24:11,922 And with this, she said, "bitch, I don't care 390 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,290 if you're going to have a baby or not. 391 00:24:14,375 --> 00:24:15,575 You're going to die. 392 00:24:15,667 --> 00:24:16,997 And I killed her." 393 00:24:17,083 --> 00:24:22,003 And that was her exact words, "I killed her." 394 00:24:22,083 --> 00:24:23,423 Virginia and another inmate, 395 00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:26,330 who also heard this story from Susan atkins, 396 00:24:26,417 --> 00:24:29,327 both decided to report the manson follower's 397 00:24:29,417 --> 00:24:32,207 stunning admission to police. 398 00:24:32,292 --> 00:24:35,252 They came forward at about the same time, 399 00:24:35,334 --> 00:24:38,254 calling independently of each other, 400 00:24:38,334 --> 00:24:41,294 calling Hollywood homicide. 401 00:24:41,375 --> 00:24:44,245 Virginia says that one thing in particular Susan told 402 00:24:44,334 --> 00:24:46,424 her compelled her to talk to police. 403 00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:50,920 Susan had told Virginia Graham that the plan of the family 404 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,960 was to seek out celebrities to murder them. 405 00:24:55,042 --> 00:24:58,382 And the one I recall in particular was, 406 00:24:58,459 --> 00:25:00,579 they were going to murder frank Sinatra. 407 00:25:00,667 --> 00:25:03,167 They were going to skin him alive 408 00:25:03,250 --> 00:25:06,080 and make purses out of it 409 00:25:06,167 --> 00:25:08,997 and sell it on Hollywood boulevard. 410 00:25:09,083 --> 00:25:13,963 And Elizabeth Taylor, they were going to remove her eyes. 411 00:25:14,042 --> 00:25:16,922 This hit list of stars Susan atkins tells Virginia 412 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:23,080 about also includes singer Tom Jones and Steve McQueen. 413 00:25:23,167 --> 00:25:26,707 Supposing she had gotten out 414 00:25:26,792 --> 00:25:30,252 and then did the terrible things that she was saying. 415 00:25:30,334 --> 00:25:32,174 I just had to speak up. 416 00:25:32,250 --> 00:25:35,080 Well, that broke the case. 417 00:25:36,918 --> 00:25:40,998 Information from the two separate investigations 418 00:25:41,083 --> 00:25:43,543 of the Tate and labianca cases 419 00:25:43,626 --> 00:25:47,536 led detectives to the conclusion that the crimes in both cases 420 00:25:47,626 --> 00:25:49,826 were committed by the same group of people. 421 00:25:49,918 --> 00:25:55,208 Susan atkins is now hauled before a grand jury. 422 00:25:55,292 --> 00:25:57,752 But when she took the stand, 423 00:25:57,834 --> 00:26:01,674 she actually denied that she stabbed Sharon Tate 424 00:26:01,751 --> 00:26:06,581 and said she held Sharon Tate while Tex did the stabbing. 425 00:26:06,667 --> 00:26:09,417 Nobody really knows which version is true. 426 00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:11,830 Saying that I had killed Sharon Tate, 427 00:26:11,918 --> 00:26:13,458 I tried to take some of the blame 428 00:26:13,542 --> 00:26:17,332 and put it on myself because I thought that was my part. 429 00:26:17,417 --> 00:26:20,577 Atkins also names fellow manson family members 430 00:26:20,667 --> 00:26:22,917 Patricia krenwinkel, Linda kasabian, 431 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,830 and Leslie Van houten as key participants 432 00:26:25,918 --> 00:26:28,168 in the Tate and labianca murders, 433 00:26:28,250 --> 00:26:30,880 all under manson's direction. 434 00:26:30,959 --> 00:26:32,879 What Susan atkins said was so important, 435 00:26:32,959 --> 00:26:39,209 that the prosecution at the time made a deal with her to testify. 436 00:26:39,292 --> 00:26:41,382 The leader of the hippie clan, Charles manson, 437 00:26:41,459 --> 00:26:43,249 is being returned to Los Angeles today 438 00:26:43,334 --> 00:26:46,884 from the desert town where he's been in jail on other charges. 439 00:26:46,959 --> 00:26:49,629 When the trial begins, the state will attempt to prove 440 00:26:49,709 --> 00:26:53,419 that he gave the orders to his followers to kill. 441 00:26:53,500 --> 00:26:56,710 That sent a tremor through this country at the time. 442 00:26:56,792 --> 00:26:59,752 "My god, how is this possible? 443 00:26:59,834 --> 00:27:03,504 Has the hippie movement gone that awry 444 00:27:03,584 --> 00:27:05,674 that it's starting to murder people?" 445 00:27:08,167 --> 00:27:10,627 The Los Angeles district attorney appoints 446 00:27:10,709 --> 00:27:14,829 Vincent bugliosi lead prosecutor on the case against manson. 447 00:27:14,918 --> 00:27:17,918 The prosecutor considers these murders to be 448 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,210 perhaps the most heinous in modern history. 449 00:27:21,292 --> 00:27:24,752 The savagery of them, the mind control. 450 00:27:27,959 --> 00:27:31,289 Charles manson and some of his closest followers face 451 00:27:31,375 --> 00:27:33,325 seven counts of murder, 452 00:27:33,417 --> 00:27:36,327 and one count conspiracy to commit murder. 453 00:27:36,417 --> 00:27:39,917 We now look back at it and think it was a foregone conclusion 454 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,290 that they were gonna be convicted. 455 00:27:41,375 --> 00:27:43,205 They're guilty as hell. 456 00:27:43,292 --> 00:27:48,132 And yet it never was that certain. 457 00:27:48,209 --> 00:27:52,669 You're trying a man for multiple counts of murder, 458 00:27:52,751 --> 00:27:54,171 and he wasn't there 459 00:27:54,250 --> 00:27:58,580 and he didn't even pick up any of the murder weapons. 460 00:27:58,667 --> 00:28:02,077 Vincent bugliosi... He could always be certain 461 00:28:02,167 --> 00:28:05,417 that he would eventually convict Tex Watson, 462 00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:09,420 and Patricia krenwinkel, Susan atkins, Leslie Van houten. 463 00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:12,040 There was evidence linking them to the crimes 464 00:28:12,125 --> 00:28:13,665 that any jury would see. 465 00:28:13,751 --> 00:28:16,081 But Charles manson, that was the hard one. 466 00:28:16,167 --> 00:28:18,497 His defense was, "I had nothing to do with it, 467 00:28:18,584 --> 00:28:20,384 they were doing what they wanted to. 468 00:28:20,459 --> 00:28:21,999 How can you blame me?" 469 00:28:32,876 --> 00:28:34,376 Susan, what are you planning to do today? 470 00:28:34,459 --> 00:28:37,419 Whatever is asked of me, I would imagine. 471 00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:40,790 Manson works hard to dominate his followers. 472 00:28:40,876 --> 00:28:43,126 He actually convinces Susan atkins, 473 00:28:43,209 --> 00:28:47,039 who already received immunity for her testimony against him, 474 00:28:47,125 --> 00:28:48,325 to drop the deal. 475 00:28:48,417 --> 00:28:49,667 She is going to deny all those statements 476 00:28:49,751 --> 00:28:52,961 made at the grand jury. 477 00:28:53,042 --> 00:28:56,502 Dennis Wilson absolutely refused to go into court 478 00:28:56,584 --> 00:28:58,834 and testify against him. 479 00:28:58,918 --> 00:29:01,128 He feared Charlie manson. 480 00:29:01,209 --> 00:29:04,879 Dennis denied any contact with him whatsoever. 481 00:29:04,959 --> 00:29:08,959 And Terry Melcher wasn't really cooperating. 482 00:29:09,042 --> 00:29:13,792 Melcher went underground for a year, living in fear. 483 00:29:13,876 --> 00:29:16,956 So, you haven't got witnesses who can really build up the case 484 00:29:17,042 --> 00:29:20,752 against manson and the grudges he held. 485 00:29:20,834 --> 00:29:22,424 So, how to prove in court 486 00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:25,500 that manson was responsible for the murders? 487 00:29:25,584 --> 00:29:30,044 The prosecution went after Linda kasabian to testify, 488 00:29:30,125 --> 00:29:31,415 which made much more sense, 489 00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:34,670 because Linda didn't physically participate 490 00:29:34,751 --> 00:29:36,171 in any of the actual murders. 491 00:29:36,250 --> 00:29:39,580 Linda kasabian was chosen by Charles manson 492 00:29:39,667 --> 00:29:42,957 to go along on the first night of the Tate murders 493 00:29:43,042 --> 00:29:45,712 because she was the only member of the immediate family 494 00:29:45,792 --> 00:29:47,672 that had a valid driver's license, 495 00:29:47,751 --> 00:29:50,581 and she later became the chief witness 496 00:29:50,667 --> 00:29:54,327 against manson and the others. 497 00:29:54,417 --> 00:29:57,247 I'd like to see them fall on their knees 498 00:29:57,334 --> 00:29:58,634 and beg for forgiveness. 499 00:29:58,709 --> 00:30:02,249 They don't want to realize what they've done. 500 00:30:02,334 --> 00:30:04,334 All the elements are present for one of the most 501 00:30:04,417 --> 00:30:07,247 sensational murder trials in American history... 502 00:30:07,334 --> 00:30:08,884 Seven people brutally murdered 503 00:30:08,959 --> 00:30:10,919 in a glare of Hollywood publicity. 504 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,920 In July of 1970, the joint murder trial of Charles manson 505 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,380 and his followers... Susan atkins, Leslie Van houten, 506 00:30:18,459 --> 00:30:21,669 and Patricia krenwinkel... Begins in Los Angeles, 507 00:30:21,751 --> 00:30:23,791 for the Tate and labianca murders. 508 00:30:23,876 --> 00:30:27,326 Young girls supposedly under the spell of a bearded svengali 509 00:30:27,417 --> 00:30:30,037 who allegedly masterminded the seven murders. 510 00:30:30,125 --> 00:30:32,875 One of the girls was only 16 years old. 511 00:30:32,959 --> 00:30:35,289 The question as to whether the followers of manson 512 00:30:35,375 --> 00:30:36,915 were victims or villains... 513 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,710 The dynamic is that they are both. 514 00:30:38,792 --> 00:30:42,922 Their victimization, at the hands of Charles manson, 515 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,040 the brainwashing, turned them into villains. 516 00:30:46,125 --> 00:30:49,285 Manson was the only one that had a motive for these murders, 517 00:30:49,375 --> 00:30:53,705 and that motive was helter skelter. 518 00:30:53,792 --> 00:30:57,252 Helter skelter was his philosophy. 519 00:30:57,334 --> 00:30:59,294 And when those two words were found printed in blood 520 00:30:59,375 --> 00:31:02,035 at the murder scene, that's tantamount to manson's 521 00:31:02,125 --> 00:31:05,165 fingerprints being found at the murder scene. 522 00:31:05,250 --> 00:31:09,670 And the theory that bugliosi brilliantly used 523 00:31:09,751 --> 00:31:14,331 was that manson so totally controlled his followers 524 00:31:14,417 --> 00:31:18,917 that they were little more than his weapon of choice 525 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,500 and that he would kill people, 526 00:31:20,584 --> 00:31:24,084 using them as the device of destruction. 527 00:31:24,167 --> 00:31:29,417 We had to show that he had control over the killers, 528 00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:32,710 so that if he gave them the order to kill, 529 00:31:32,792 --> 00:31:34,172 that they would do that. 530 00:31:34,250 --> 00:31:39,380 And it was just clear to everyone in the courtroom 531 00:31:39,459 --> 00:31:46,379 that manson still controlled all the female defendants. 532 00:31:46,459 --> 00:31:50,289 The manson family was camped out on the sidewalk. 533 00:31:50,375 --> 00:31:54,075 They lived outside the courthouse. 534 00:31:54,167 --> 00:31:56,457 It almost became like a circus. 535 00:31:56,542 --> 00:31:59,082 It was just showtime. 536 00:31:59,167 --> 00:32:02,787 Manson he has some of his followers in the hallways, 537 00:32:02,876 --> 00:32:05,706 passing out leaflets about how, 538 00:32:05,792 --> 00:32:08,172 "these people have no right to try me." 539 00:32:08,250 --> 00:32:11,790 The girls would come into the courtroom, 540 00:32:11,876 --> 00:32:16,536 smiling and singing a song that Charlie wrote. 541 00:32:19,959 --> 00:32:23,329 Manson came in one day with an "x" on his forehead. 542 00:32:23,417 --> 00:32:27,127 He has cut an "x" between his eyes because, 543 00:32:27,209 --> 00:32:30,669 "society has x'd us out. 544 00:32:30,751 --> 00:32:32,461 We don't count." 545 00:32:32,542 --> 00:32:35,632 The next day, the women came in with x's on their forehead. 546 00:32:35,709 --> 00:32:40,539 And the followers outside carve x's in their foreheads, as well. 547 00:32:40,626 --> 00:32:44,126 Nobody had ever seen anything like it. 548 00:32:44,209 --> 00:32:46,329 Boy, did they play right into our hands. 549 00:32:46,417 --> 00:32:50,957 Manson gave bugliosi everything he needed... 550 00:32:51,042 --> 00:32:54,132 Living daily proof that they were following 551 00:32:54,209 --> 00:32:57,959 what he told them to do, regardless of the consequences. 552 00:32:58,042 --> 00:32:59,792 In the courtroom itself, 553 00:32:59,876 --> 00:33:04,916 the girls essentially had been told by Charlie to make a scene. 554 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,580 Manson would say something in the courtroom, 555 00:33:07,667 --> 00:33:10,037 and then the three women in unison would get up 556 00:33:10,125 --> 00:33:12,875 and they would repeat what manson said. 557 00:33:12,959 --> 00:33:14,169 What transpired today was this... 558 00:33:14,250 --> 00:33:16,420 The three girls in the case stood up 559 00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:18,830 and turned their back to the court. 560 00:33:18,918 --> 00:33:21,628 There's a constant theme of disorder in the court 561 00:33:21,709 --> 00:33:22,879 because of all of the antics, 562 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,330 and the judge is always having to order. 563 00:33:25,417 --> 00:33:28,077 Manson removed from the courtroom. 564 00:33:28,167 --> 00:33:32,167 I'll do whatever it takes to preserve my life 565 00:33:32,250 --> 00:33:35,960 on the planet earth, because I am a selfish, bitter, 566 00:33:36,042 --> 00:33:38,632 no-account, vicious snake. 567 00:33:38,709 --> 00:33:41,629 He knows what he's doing, and at one point, 568 00:33:41,709 --> 00:33:44,669 he offers one of the bailiffs $100,000, 569 00:33:44,751 --> 00:33:47,671 if he can figure out a way for him to escape, or set him free. 570 00:33:47,751 --> 00:33:50,171 It was really just yet another courtroom tactic, 571 00:33:50,250 --> 00:33:53,210 where he was trying to show, "I have so much power." 572 00:33:53,292 --> 00:33:58,332 What he used to do, he had this hitlerian stare. 573 00:33:58,417 --> 00:34:01,537 That was the stare that was on the cover of "life" magazine. 574 00:34:01,626 --> 00:34:04,996 He'd turn around and he'd stare at spectators, you know, 575 00:34:05,083 --> 00:34:07,753 and they'd get up and they'd leave. 576 00:34:07,834 --> 00:34:10,634 When the witness for the prosecution, 577 00:34:10,709 --> 00:34:13,419 Linda kasabian, is entering the courtroom, 578 00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:17,920 the intimidation by Charles manson was unmistakable. 579 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,540 He lifted his finger and made a slicing motion 580 00:34:20,626 --> 00:34:21,916 across his throat, 581 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,420 to send a very clear message to Linda, 582 00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:27,460 "you're going to die for what you're about to say." 583 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,420 The press gets a hold of the fact that president Nixon 584 00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:38,790 has actually made a statement, "Charles manson is guilty." 585 00:34:38,876 --> 00:34:42,416 Manson gets the paper, stands up in front of the jury. 586 00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:47,210 Headline... extra... "Manson guilty, Nixon declares." 587 00:34:47,292 --> 00:34:49,462 Threw the trial into a tizzy, obviously. 588 00:34:49,542 --> 00:34:52,212 There was a motion for a mistrial. 589 00:34:56,292 --> 00:34:58,712 Former family member Barbara hoyt is torn 590 00:34:58,792 --> 00:35:01,502 about whether she should testify against manson. 591 00:35:01,584 --> 00:35:05,254 His followers try to keep her from talking. 592 00:35:05,334 --> 00:35:07,334 They threatened my family that what had happened 593 00:35:07,417 --> 00:35:09,497 at Sharon Tate's house would happen at mine. 594 00:35:09,584 --> 00:35:13,674 She was overdosed with LSD by another manson follower, 595 00:35:13,751 --> 00:35:17,381 who was trying to keep her from testifying. 596 00:35:17,459 --> 00:35:21,459 It gave her a bad trip but didn't kill her. 597 00:35:21,542 --> 00:35:23,002 I knew what to do then. 598 00:35:23,083 --> 00:35:27,543 She testified and was a great witness. 599 00:35:27,626 --> 00:35:29,496 During the presentation of evidence, 600 00:35:29,584 --> 00:35:32,004 October 5, 1970, 601 00:35:32,083 --> 00:35:35,083 the prosecution is presenting testimony of a detective, 602 00:35:35,167 --> 00:35:37,577 and Charles manson takes it upon himself 603 00:35:37,667 --> 00:35:39,327 to stand up and demand of the judge 604 00:35:39,417 --> 00:35:41,667 that he wants to cross-examine the witness. 605 00:35:41,751 --> 00:35:43,751 And before you knew it... bingo... 606 00:35:43,834 --> 00:35:45,754 He was leaping toward the judge. 607 00:35:45,834 --> 00:35:47,584 A bailiff tackled him in midair. 608 00:35:47,667 --> 00:35:50,997 He had a pencil in his hand, like a knife. 609 00:35:51,083 --> 00:35:52,543 And he yells at the judge, 610 00:35:52,626 --> 00:35:54,206 "in the name of Christian justice, 611 00:35:54,292 --> 00:35:56,712 someone should chop off your head." 612 00:35:56,792 --> 00:35:59,042 Charles manson is crazy like a fox. 613 00:35:59,125 --> 00:36:02,575 He just loves to mess with people's minds. 614 00:36:02,667 --> 00:36:04,287 Now, the judge started carrying a 615 00:36:04,375 --> 00:36:08,075 .38-caliber revolver under his robe in court. 616 00:36:18,667 --> 00:36:20,127 The jury hearing the charges against Charles manson 617 00:36:20,209 --> 00:36:22,579 and three girl members of his so-called "family" 618 00:36:22,667 --> 00:36:25,377 brought in its verdict this afternoon. 619 00:36:25,459 --> 00:36:29,579 They found him guilty of all the crimes, 620 00:36:29,667 --> 00:36:32,417 all the conspiracy counts, all the murder counts. 621 00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:34,880 They were all sentenced to death. 622 00:36:34,959 --> 00:36:43,129 And then Watson, in his trial, was sentenced to death. 623 00:36:43,209 --> 00:36:47,169 Aren't we all born to die? 624 00:36:47,250 --> 00:36:50,710 Charlie manson shaved his head, 625 00:36:50,792 --> 00:36:55,672 and the followers shaved their heads in solidarity. 626 00:36:55,751 --> 00:36:58,001 This city is going to be burning very soon. 627 00:36:58,083 --> 00:36:59,253 This city is coming down. 628 00:36:59,334 --> 00:37:01,134 This city is falling. 629 00:37:01,209 --> 00:37:04,079 Babylon is going to fall. 630 00:37:04,167 --> 00:37:07,247 Manson and the others are placed on death row. 631 00:37:07,334 --> 00:37:10,544 But, the very next year, the California supreme court 632 00:37:10,626 --> 00:37:15,376 and the U.S. supreme court set aside the death penalty. 633 00:37:15,459 --> 00:37:17,039 I mean, if this was not a proper case 634 00:37:17,125 --> 00:37:19,455 for the death penalty, what would be? 635 00:37:19,542 --> 00:37:23,172 How many people would he have to kill to get the death penalty? 636 00:37:23,250 --> 00:37:25,250 Everybody on death row at that time, 637 00:37:25,334 --> 00:37:30,424 including manson and the three girls and Watson, 638 00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:33,920 became eligible for parole after seven years. 639 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,250 At a minimum, if justice means anything in america, 640 00:37:37,334 --> 00:37:40,964 they should spend the rest of their lives behind bars. 641 00:37:41,042 --> 00:37:42,462 It was a shock, 642 00:37:42,542 --> 00:37:46,172 and I'm sure it's a shock to all the victims' families, 643 00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:49,880 because we felt that they had been put in prison 644 00:37:49,959 --> 00:37:52,329 and that's where they would stay. 645 00:37:54,250 --> 00:37:56,330 Shelley Ross produced a Charles manson 646 00:37:56,417 --> 00:37:59,457 prison interview with nbc's Tom snyder. 647 00:37:59,542 --> 00:38:01,542 If you got out of here, there are a lot of people 648 00:38:01,626 --> 00:38:03,876 who think you'd go start killing people again. 649 00:38:03,959 --> 00:38:05,919 "Again"? Mm-hmm. 650 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,170 Manson reaches over to me, and he said, 651 00:38:09,250 --> 00:38:11,790 "are you going to ask me questions like," 652 00:38:11,876 --> 00:38:13,706 and he put his hand around my neck, 653 00:38:13,792 --> 00:38:18,712 "is this where I hold the knife to women's throats?" 654 00:38:18,792 --> 00:38:22,212 It was really creepy. 655 00:38:25,250 --> 00:38:27,330 These murders would never have taken place 656 00:38:27,417 --> 00:38:29,877 if it had not been for Charles manson. 657 00:38:29,959 --> 00:38:31,459 But I also think you have to realize 658 00:38:31,542 --> 00:38:34,132 that these murders would probably have not taken place 659 00:38:34,209 --> 00:38:37,249 if the actual killers did not want to kill. 660 00:38:37,334 --> 00:38:38,924 And he was like the catalyst that brought 661 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,830 that hostility to the surface. 662 00:38:41,918 --> 00:38:47,748 Susan atkins died of brain cancer in prison in 2009. 663 00:38:47,834 --> 00:38:49,884 But five of his former followers 664 00:38:49,959 --> 00:38:52,499 are still behind bars in California... 665 00:38:52,584 --> 00:38:55,174 Charles "Tex" Watson, Leslie Van houten, 666 00:38:55,250 --> 00:38:59,750 Patty krenwinkel, Bruce Davis, and Bobby beausoleil. 667 00:38:59,834 --> 00:39:03,384 They are struggling to get out to be on parole, 668 00:39:03,459 --> 00:39:05,919 and that's the sad part of it. 669 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,500 We're still all this time later, 670 00:39:08,584 --> 00:39:12,084 and we're now having to fight to keep them in prison. 671 00:39:12,167 --> 00:39:15,497 If they got paroled, they'd be somebody's next-door neighbor, 672 00:39:15,584 --> 00:39:18,924 and I never believed that they were reformed enough 673 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,500 so that they wouldn't be a danger, even today. 674 00:39:27,834 --> 00:39:35,634 Every life that Charles manson touched was hurt in some way. 675 00:39:35,709 --> 00:39:39,999 To have a family member murdered is shocking, 676 00:39:40,083 --> 00:39:41,673 and it will never go away. 677 00:39:41,751 --> 00:39:45,001 Sharon Tate had made it, she was a star, 678 00:39:45,083 --> 00:39:48,583 and this incredible tragedy of being cut down at 26, 679 00:39:48,667 --> 00:39:50,667 it just was horrific. 680 00:39:50,751 --> 00:39:53,331 And her unborn son never got the chance 681 00:39:53,417 --> 00:39:55,417 to experience life at all. 682 00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:57,920 The very thought of young women dressed in black, 683 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,210 armed with sharp knives, entering the homes 684 00:40:00,292 --> 00:40:02,132 of complete strangers in the middle of the night, 685 00:40:02,209 --> 00:40:04,879 and mercilessly stabbing them to death 686 00:40:04,959 --> 00:40:07,789 is really so horrendous a thought that it's difficult 687 00:40:07,876 --> 00:40:09,666 to contemplate a thought like that 688 00:40:09,751 --> 00:40:11,421 for more than a couple moments. 689 00:40:11,500 --> 00:40:14,750 Rosemary labianca's 15-year-old son, 690 00:40:14,834 --> 00:40:16,174 frank struthers, 691 00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:19,040 it had such an effect on him that for many years, 692 00:40:19,125 --> 00:40:23,825 he lived as a hermit in Colorado in the mountains, 693 00:40:23,918 --> 00:40:26,498 and he would only come down like once 694 00:40:26,584 --> 00:40:29,424 every three months for provisions. 695 00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:32,500 Every time that word "manson" comes up, 696 00:40:32,584 --> 00:40:38,084 it brings back these terrible memories. 697 00:40:38,167 --> 00:40:42,127 The infamous criminal cult leader Charles manson has died. 698 00:40:42,209 --> 00:40:45,249 Manson dead at the age of 83 years old. 699 00:40:45,334 --> 00:40:46,634 California prison officials say 700 00:40:46,709 --> 00:40:48,879 that he died of natural causes on Sunday. 701 00:40:48,959 --> 00:40:51,919 Manson was serving nine life sentences for murders 702 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,710 carried out by his followers. 703 00:40:55,792 --> 00:40:59,542 Charles manson was born evil. 704 00:40:59,626 --> 00:41:02,496 He spent his life doing horrible things. 705 00:41:02,584 --> 00:41:06,794 There is no excuse for what he became. 706 00:41:06,876 --> 00:41:09,956 Charles manson is literally one of the worst human beings 707 00:41:10,042 --> 00:41:12,132 that ever walked this planet. 708 00:41:14,709 --> 00:41:17,999 Maybe I should have killed 400 or 500 people. 709 00:41:18,083 --> 00:41:19,923 Then I would have felt better. 710 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,290 I would've felt like I really offered society something. 711 00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:29,380 Not many people know that Charles manson was a father 712 00:41:29,459 --> 00:41:32,379 who had at least three sons with three different women. 713 00:41:32,459 --> 00:41:34,749 His first son committed suicide in 1993, 714 00:41:34,834 --> 00:41:38,834 reportedly because he couldn't live with who his father was. 715 00:41:38,918 --> 00:41:41,668 Charlie's second son has done everything possible 716 00:41:41,751 --> 00:41:44,381 to disassociate himself from his father. 717 00:41:44,459 --> 00:41:47,579 And manson's youngest purported son, Michael brunner, 718 00:41:47,667 --> 00:41:49,577 is the baby the killer reportedly had 719 00:41:49,667 --> 00:41:52,627 with manson family follower Mary brunner. 720 00:41:52,709 --> 00:41:54,169 Michael was born with Charlie 721 00:41:54,250 --> 00:41:56,790 and the manson girls there to help with the delivery. 722 00:41:56,876 --> 00:41:59,076 Some say Charlie used his teeth 723 00:41:59,167 --> 00:42:01,247 to cut through the umbilical cord. 724 00:42:01,334 --> 00:42:02,584 Michael brunner went to court, 725 00:42:02,667 --> 00:42:04,497 seeking control of his father's estate, 726 00:42:04,584 --> 00:42:07,334 after the killer's death in 2017. 727 00:42:07,417 --> 00:42:10,127 Charlie died in prison without ever admitting his guilt 728 00:42:10,209 --> 00:42:12,419 in the manson family murders. 729 00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:13,880 In one expert's opinion, 730 00:42:13,959 --> 00:42:16,919 his failure to take responsibility for the deaths 731 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,790 is glaring proof that Charlie manson 732 00:42:18,876 --> 00:42:21,496 was evil till his last breath. 733 00:42:21,584 --> 00:42:23,084 Thanks for watching. 734 00:42:23,167 --> 00:42:25,287 I'm Donnie wahlberg.