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Manson: I'll be coming up
to your children.
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And I'll do whatever it takes
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to preserve my life on the planet earth.
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Because I am a selfish,
bitter, no-account,
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vicious snake.
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[ Whoosh ]
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Welcome to
"very scary people."
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I'm Donnie wahlberg.
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Charles manson, a twisted
cult leader bent on violence,
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has led his followers
in a series of vicious murders.
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His goal?
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To start a race war
between blacks and whites...
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A conflict he calls helter skelter.
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His murder weapons are
members of his commune...
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Impressionable young people,
many from good families...
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Who he manipulates
with mind-control techniques,
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turning his group of peaceful hippies
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into a devoted death squad.
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Police have yet to make the connection
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between the carnage at two
of manson's bloody crime scenes,
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and Charlie is way ahead of them.
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He wants more death, and he
wants it the very next night.
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How will investigators
ultimately piece it
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all together?
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Here's part two of
"the devil's work."
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[ Ominous chord strikes ]
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I spent the best part of my life
in boys' schools,
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prisons, and reform schools.
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Roberts: You can't understand
Charlie manson
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without understanding his criminal past
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and his time in jail.
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Rick:
In order for him to survive,
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he developed skills to manipulate people.
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Prison is where manson
perfected the art of the con.
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He's inspired by a very unlikely source.
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His personal guru is none other
than Dale carnegie.
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Dr. Jordan: "How to win friends
and influence people."
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And then he used those techniques,
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that ability to manipulate,
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and eventually get people
to kill for him.
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Guinn:
When he got out of prison,
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Charlie reinvents himself as a guru.
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He used the hippie ideals
as recruitment tools,
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but there was always,
at the core, manson's attitudes,
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which were darker and more violent
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and more angry than the hippie ideal.
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Charlie believes he is destined
to be a rock star.
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And it's just going to come down
to can he get one break,
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one introduction, and he does.
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Manson strikes up a friendship
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with Dennis Wilson of the beach boys.
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Manson, at Dennis Wilson's house,
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met Terry Melcher.
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He was a famous record
producer at the time.
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He was living with his girlfriend,
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Candice Bergen, at 10050 cielo drive.
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Lake:
Terry Melcher came to the ranch,
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and we did, like,
a little recording session.
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But it's met with a flat rejection.
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Charlie was really upset about that.
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Terry Melcher had dashed
his hope for a music contract.
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In my opinion, that rejection is
what led to his desire to kill.
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Kay: He started holding
training classes
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for how to commit murder.
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Then, on Friday, August the 8th, he said,
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"now is the time
for helter skelter."
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Roman polanski was a very
famous director at that time;
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Sharon Tate,
an up-and-coming young actress.
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The newlyweds had moved
into 10050 cielo drive.
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Manson sends out three women,
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with Tex Watson, to the Tate residence.
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Shelley: Manson instructs Tex
that he's to go in there
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and kill everyone in a gory scene.
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Guinn: Watson and the women
proceeded to the house.
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Tex Watson said, "we're gonna
kill everyone in there."
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Atkins: I remember
that I had gone so far,
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and there was no turning back,
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that even if I had wanted to run,
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even if I had
wanted to leave, I couldn't.
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It was like I was caught in something
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that I had no control over.
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Dr. Jordan: Sharon Tate
and three houseguests...
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Jay sebring, Abigail Folger,
and wojciech frykowski...
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Have no idea
what's coming up the driveway.
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The people in that house
were terrorized, tortured.
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Dr. Jordan: Charles manson
may not have been there,
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but he had given them
very specific instructions,
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"before you leave,
leave a sign."
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Susan atkins picks up a towel
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and dips it in the blood of Sharon Tate,
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and on the front door
of the house writes the word,
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"pig."
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Reporter: In a scene described
by one investigator
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as reminiscent of a weird religious rite,
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five persons including actress
Sharon Tate, were found dead.
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Sidner: Incredibly, 19-year-old
William garretson,
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the fill-in caretaker,
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had been just 25 yards away,
in the guesthouse,
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when these five people
were murdered the night before.
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Wiehl: The police take
William garretson into custody,
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and he becomes suspect number one.
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Shelley: As I.A. homicide
detectives are looking,
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one of the strangest things was
a statement written in blood.
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On the front door,
they saw the word "pig."
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Sidner: But why is it written
here, on Sharon Tate's front door?
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Police at the Sharon Tate murder
get a call from police
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that were investigating
the murder of Gary hinman.
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Hinman was the musician
who was murdered in his own home
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a little over a week before.
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Kay: And they said, "look, we
have the murder of Gary hinman",
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and there's writing in blood
on the wall...
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'political piggy.'
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and you have the Tate murders with 'pig'
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written in Sharon Tate's blood
on the front door.
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These murders may well be connected,
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"because it's so unusual
to have writing in blood."
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And... pbht... LAPD not interested.
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The LAPD should have made
that connection.
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The thing would have been solved
in a matter of days.
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But despite the brutal murders,
manson is still not satisfied.
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I am very mad, and I don't know
whether I can control myself.
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Charlie had been talking
about the race war,
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referring to it as helter skelter.
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Manson thought,
because of the Tate murders,
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helter skelter would begin.
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But that bizarre race war manson
predicted
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still wasn't happening.
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So, on August 10th, after
everyone else had gone to bed,
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manson again gathers a select
group of his followers together.
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A team of his death squad,
his favorite followers,
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to commit yet another murder.
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There was Tex and manson
and Linda kasabian,
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Susan, pat, and I.
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Manson said he was going
to go out with them that night
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and show them how to do it right.
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Van houten:
We got in the car.
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And you drive where?
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We drove all over I.A.
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Charles manson is actually
in the car with Tex
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and the girls, looking for
what the target will be.
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And they went looking for their
victims completely at random.
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And manson was very agitated.
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And kasabian was very nervous and upset,
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and he was yelling at her a lot.
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Eventually, manson has kasabian
pull over at a house
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in the I.A. neighborhood
of Los feliz.
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The labiancas, a nice
middle-upper-class couple.
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Kay: Leno ran a family
business, a chain of small markets.
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He had met Rosemary
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at a local restaurant.
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They were good family people.
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Guinn:
Manson knew that neighborhood.
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That's why he brought his killers there.
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Wiehl:
Charles manson goes up,
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looks into the window
of the labianca home,
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sees leno in the home.
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Dr. Jordan: Manson and Watson
enter through the backdoor.
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The labiancas are tied up and pillowcases
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put over their heads.
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Manson then left the house,
returning to the car.
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Manson came back,
and he pointed at pat and I
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and told us to get out
and go do what Tex said,
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and then... do whatever Tex said?
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He said to Tex to make sure
that everybody did something.
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Charlie left before the actual murders.
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He was not going to be there
while murder was committed.
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Man: You came in the house
with Tex,
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and decided to leave and go elsewhere.
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I walked with Tex.
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What Tex did was Tex' business.
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What you do is yours.
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I don't tell you what to do.
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Rick: Manson had other people
he could weaponize to do
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whatever it was that he wanted done,
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rather than to take on
the responsibility himself.
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Pat and I went in the kitchen.
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I think Tex said to get knives.
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And pat and I took Mrs. Labianca
into the bedroom,
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and, um... was she screaming?
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Not at that point.
Mostly, "what's going on?
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What are you going to do?"
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Dr. Jordan: Within seconds, Tex
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Rosemary labianca can hear
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what's going on in the living room,
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and she can hear
her husband being killed.
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And she screams out, "what
are you doing to my husband?"
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She then begins to struggle
with Patricia krenwinkel
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and Leslie Van houten.
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I tried to hold
Mrs. Labianca down.
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And pat went to stab her,
and the knife bent,
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and she was yelling out for her husband.
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Dr. Jordan: Tex hears the
struggle going on and takes control,
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and he begins to stab Rosemary.
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Van houten: And then Tex turned
me around and he handed me a knife,
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and he said, "do something."
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And Mrs. Labianca
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was laying on the floor,
and I stabbed her. Where?
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Dr. Jordan: Patricia krenwinkel
had a long carving fork,
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a two-pronged fork that she
stabbed into leno's stomach.
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Then the word, "war"
was carved into leno's stomach.
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Patricia krenwinkel then wrote
in blood on the walls,
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the words "rise," "death to pigs,"
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and then the most famous,
"helter skelter,"
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misspelled on the refrigerator door.
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After you went out to the car
and drove away,
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was there a rush, a high?
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There was... we didn't do that.
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What did you do?
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We went and sat in some bushes.
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And I believe it was Tex took
milk and cheese from the house.
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And you ate?
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And we sat in the bushes
and had milk and cheese.
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And where was manson?
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He was gone.
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Dr. Smith: How can relatively
normal-looking young people
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come up with these awful ideas
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and commit these terrible crimes?
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Manson fulfilled a core
need in his followers' lives.
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They felt unloved, and they got
what they needed from manson.
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He told them that he would be
the family they never had.
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And the key was, they had
to be completely loyal
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and give their lives over to him
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if they wanted to be in his family.
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They became little Charlie mansons.
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They were gleeful and happy to kill.
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Guinn:
Fear permeated the city.
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No matter where you lived,
you were not safe.
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Gun sales went off
the charts in I.A.
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Guinn: Guard dogs that were
selling for $200,
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the days before the murder,
were now selling for $1,000,
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and you had to get on
a waiting list for them.
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In I.A., actors and actresses
were having bodyguards
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because, you know, Sharon Tate
was an actress married to
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a famous director.
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It sent shock waves
through everyone in Hollywood.
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And there was a great deal of fear...
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Very tangible fear that rippled
through the Hollywood Hills.
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Kay:
LAPD had a group of detectives
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working the murders at the Tate residence
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and another group of detectives
working the labianca murders,
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and these two groups weren't
really talking to each other.
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You've got "pig" on the front
door of Sharon Tate's house,
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"death to pigs" on the living
room in the labianca house.
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The minute that the homicide detectives
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saw the writing of blood
in the labianca double homicide,
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they should have brought
those investigations together.
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The homicides are not connected.
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I think the public and a lot
of the media had
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picked out the fact that
they were similar in nature,
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possibly because of the blood
and the inscriptions.
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Wiehl: They should have been
one investigation,
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looking for one individual
or group of individuals
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that had committed both
of these heinous crimes.
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Sidner: The same day the
labiancas are found murdered,
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the prime suspect in the Tate case,
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19-year-old William garretson,
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is abruptly ruled out
as a suspect and released.
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Reporter:
Late this afternoon,
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police released
the only suspect they had...
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19-year-old William garretson,
caretaker at the polanski home.
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Wiehl:
They give him a polygraph.
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He passes the polygraph in flying colors.
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Sidner: Meanwhile, the LAPD
has a new theory
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why Tate and the four
other people killed with her
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at her home were targeted
in the first place.
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It had been determined that the
Tate murders were drug-related
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and had nothing to do with anyone else.
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Wiehl: The autopsy reports showed
some drugs in two of the bodies.
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And there was marijuana
in Jay sebring's car.
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Wiehl:
Roman polanski and his friends
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are quite frustrated with the LAPD
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because the LAPD is making it quite clear
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that somehow the celebrity lifestyle
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led to this horrible scene of murder.
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And Roman polanski and his
celebrity friends are saying,
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"no, that's not it."
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Sidner: Not only are the Tate
investigators
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on a wild goose chase,
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but so are the labianca detectives.
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They're looking into leno
and his horses and his gambling.
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And they find that he may have
some gambling that has gone bad.
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The idea that the police have is
some kind of mafia connection.
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Again, they're looking
in the wrong track.
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[ Whooshes ]
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A week after the Tate murders,
Charles manson and his followers
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wake to the sound of unwanted visitors.
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The sheriff's department had
a big raid on spahn ranch.
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They arrested manson.
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They arrested other members
of the family...
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...for stealing cars.
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And the police couldn't understand
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when Charlie asked what the charges were
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and they said, "car theft,"
that manson started laughing.
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But he had a reason to laugh.
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He was relieved.
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No one had any idea
that they had anything to do
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with Tate and labianca.
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And they've got the wrong date
on the search warrant.
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So all of them are now released.
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Sidner: What some of his
followers don't realize is that Charlie
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had groomed a violent
hit squad within the family.
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Lake:
Leslie and Susan and Patty
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were telling me how they participated.
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Leslie said she stabbed
somebody over and over again,
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even though they were already dead.
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When I found out that Tex had murdered,
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it was like the rug had been
pulled out from under me.
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I had no idea that I was sitting
amongst the murderers.
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Charlie was getting threatening,
and he was quite... he was mean.
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He was beating on some of the girls,
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specially dianne lake.
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And he broke a chair and then
beat me with the chair leg.
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I was afraid that I would be killed.
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Dr. Jordan: Manson now realizes
that the heat is on with the police,
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that they're going to be
caught unless they relocate,
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so he gathers the manson family
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and they move deep into death valley.
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Sidner: 250 miles away,
manson and his followers
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move to an extremely
remote place in the desert,
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called barker ranch.
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Wiehl: In death valley,
all of a sudden,
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a huge piece of road equipment
goes up in flames.
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I think it was Charlie and Tex and Bruce
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that had started this fire
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because the road was blocked
with this road grader
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and they were mad,
and so they decided to burn it.
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The inyo county sheriff's department
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starts to investigate,
and they raid barker ranch
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and find dune buggies and engines
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and cars that are stolen.
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Sidner: Members of the family had
stolen these cars and dune buggies
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and were using them for parts.
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Kay: Manson and the people
who were with him
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at the time were arrested.
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Wiehl: But they're still,
at that point,
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arresting him for low-level auto theft.
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Yet the important thing is,
they've got him.
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They have the murderers,
and they don't know it.
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Guinn: If it hadn't been
for the police in death valley
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arresting Charles manson
and his followers,
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he might still be out there.
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Charles manson and his followers
are under arrest
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after a police raid, but not for murder.
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They're in custody for auto theft,
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and detectives still have no clue
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that they're holding the killers
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responsible for multiple murders.
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But they're about to get
an unexpected break in the case.
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And the world is about to witness
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one of the most bizarre
murder trials in U.S. history...
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A courtroom spectacle
that gives new meaning
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to the term "devil's work."
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The October 1969 arrests
of Charles manson
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and many of his followers, for car theft,
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has put most of the family
members behind bars,
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including Susan atkins.
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Guinn: Susan atkins, at
the time she was imprisoned,
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was surely one of Charlie's
most devout followers.
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She is taken to what is now Sybil brand,
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the I.A. police holding center,
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and she's taken there for questioning.
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I was at Sybil brand
because I had written a check
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and I couldn't cover it.
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There was a young, pretty little girl
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that was always singing and dancing
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and running up and down the aisle,
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and so she started talking with me.
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Kay:
She's a blabbermouth.
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She had a reputation in the family
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of not being able to keep a secret.
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And she begins to talk about
what happened
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in the Tate residence.
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Graham: She says, "well, you know
those murders up Benedict canyon?"
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Then, it dawned on me
that it was the Tate murders.
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She said, "you know who did it,
don't you?"
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And I looked at her and I said,
"no, I don't."
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And her words to me, to be exact, were,
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"you're looking at her."
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I just thought that this was
something she dreamed up.
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Sidner: But by an odd
twist of fate, Virginia says,
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she'd actually been to
10050 cielo drive years earlier,
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when she and her husband
considered renting the property.
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Graham: She said they had gotten
Jay and Sharon into the living room,
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and it had beamed ceilings,
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and that's how I knew
that she had been in the house.
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She took responsibility
for murdering Sharon.
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Graham: She told me that Sharon
Tate was crying and was begging her,
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"please don't hurt me,
don't don't kill me.
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I just want to have my baby."
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And with this, she said,
"bitch, I don't care
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if you're going to have a baby or not.
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You're going to die.
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And I killed her."
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And that was her exact words,
"I killed her."
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Sidner:
Virginia and another inmate,
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who also heard this story
from Susan atkins,
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both decided to report
the manson follower's
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stunning admission to police.
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Kay: They came forward
at about the same time,
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calling independently of each other,
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calling Hollywood homicide.
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Sidner: Virginia says that one
thing in particular Susan told
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her compelled her to talk to police.
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Susan had told Virginia Graham
that the plan of the family
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was to seek out celebrities
to murder them.
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And the one I recall in particular was,
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they were going to murder frank Sinatra.
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Graham: They were going to
skin him alive
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and make purses out of it
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and sell it on Hollywood boulevard.
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And Elizabeth Taylor, they were
going to remove her eyes.
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Sidner: This hit list of stars
Susan atkins tells Virginia
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about also includes singer
Tom Jones and Steve McQueen.
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Graham:
Supposing she had gotten out
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and then did the terrible things
that she was saying.
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I just had to speak up.
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Well, that broke the case.
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Davis: Information from the two
separate investigations
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of the Tate and labianca cases
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led detectives to the conclusion
that the crimes in both cases
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were committed by
the same group of people.
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Shelley: Susan atkins is now
hauled before a grand jury.
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But when she took the stand,
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she actually denied
that she stabbed Sharon Tate
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and said she held Sharon Tate
while Tex did the stabbing.
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Nobody really knows
which version is true.
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Saying that I had killed Sharon Tate,
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I tried to take some of the blame
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and put it on myself because
I thought that was my part.
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Sidner: Atkins also names
fellow manson family members
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Patricia krenwinkel, Linda kasabian,
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and Leslie Van houten as key participants
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in the Tate and labianca murders,
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all under manson's direction.
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What Susan atkins said was so important,
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that the prosecution at the time
made a deal with her to testify.
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Reporter: The leader of the
hippie clan, Charles manson,
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is being returned to Los Angeles today
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from the desert town where he's
been in jail on other charges.
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When the trial begins,
the state will attempt to prove
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that he gave the orders
to his followers to kill.
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That sent a tremor through
this country at the time.
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"My god, how is this possible?
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Has the hippie movement gone that awry
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that it's starting
to murder people?"
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Sidner: The Los Angeles
district attorney appoints
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Vincent bugliosi lead prosecutor
on the case against manson.
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The prosecutor considers
these murders to be
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perhaps the most heinous
in modern history.
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The savagery of them, the mind control.
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♪♪
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Sidner: Charles manson and
some of his closest followers face
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seven counts of murder,
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and one count
conspiracy to commit murder.
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Guinn: We now look back at it and
think it was a foregone conclusion
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that they were gonna be convicted.
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They're guilty as hell.
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And yet it never was that certain.
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Dr. Jordan: You're trying a
man for multiple counts of murder,
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and he wasn't there
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and he didn't even pick up
any of the murder weapons.
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Guinn: Vincent bugliosi...
He could always be certain
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that he would eventually convict
Tex Watson,
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and Patricia krenwinkel,
Susan atkins, Leslie Van houten.
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There was evidence linking them
to the crimes
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that any jury would see.
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But Charles manson,
that was the hard one.
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His defense was,
"I had nothing to do with it,
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they were doing what they wanted to.
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How can you blame me?"
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♪♪
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Reporter: Susan, what are you
planning to do today?
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Whatever is asked of me, I would imagine.
495
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:40,790
Sidner: Manson works hard
to dominate his followers.
496
00:28:40,876 --> 00:28:43,126
He actually convinces Susan atkins,
497
00:28:43,209 --> 00:28:47,039
who already received immunity
for her testimony against him,
498
00:28:47,125 --> 00:28:48,325
to drop the deal.
499
00:28:48,417 --> 00:28:49,667
She is going to deny all those statements
500
00:28:49,751 --> 00:28:52,961
made at the grand jury.
501
00:28:53,042 --> 00:28:56,502
Guinn: Dennis Wilson
absolutely refused to go into court
502
00:28:56,584 --> 00:28:58,834
and testify against him.
503
00:28:58,918 --> 00:29:01,128
He feared Charlie manson.
504
00:29:01,209 --> 00:29:04,879
Dennis denied any contact
with him whatsoever.
505
00:29:04,959 --> 00:29:08,959
And Terry Melcher wasn't
really cooperating.
506
00:29:09,042 --> 00:29:13,792
Melcher went underground
for a year, living in fear.
507
00:29:13,876 --> 00:29:16,956
So, you haven't got witnesses
who can really build up the case
508
00:29:17,042 --> 00:29:20,752
against manson and the grudges he held.
509
00:29:20,834 --> 00:29:22,424
So, how to prove in court
510
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:25,500
that manson was responsible
for the murders?
511
00:29:25,584 --> 00:29:30,044
The prosecution went after
Linda kasabian to testify,
512
00:29:30,125 --> 00:29:31,415
which made much more sense,
513
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:34,670
because Linda didn't
physically participate
514
00:29:34,751 --> 00:29:36,171
in any of the actual murders.
515
00:29:36,250 --> 00:29:39,580
Linda kasabian
was chosen by Charles manson
516
00:29:39,667 --> 00:29:42,957
to go along on the first
night of the Tate murders
517
00:29:43,042 --> 00:29:45,712
because she was the only member
of the immediate family
518
00:29:45,792 --> 00:29:47,672
that had a valid driver's license,
519
00:29:47,751 --> 00:29:50,581
and she later became the chief witness
520
00:29:50,667 --> 00:29:54,327
against manson and the others.
521
00:29:54,417 --> 00:29:57,247
I'd like to see them fall on their knees
522
00:29:57,334 --> 00:29:58,634
and beg for forgiveness.
523
00:29:58,709 --> 00:30:02,249
They don't want to realize
what they've done.
524
00:30:02,334 --> 00:30:04,334
Reporter: All the elements are
present for one of the most
525
00:30:04,417 --> 00:30:07,247
sensational murder trials
in American history...
526
00:30:07,334 --> 00:30:08,884
Seven people brutally murdered
527
00:30:08,959 --> 00:30:10,919
in a glare of Hollywood publicity.
528
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,920
Sidner: In July of 1970, the joint
murder trial of Charles manson
529
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,380
and his followers...
Susan atkins, Leslie Van houten,
530
00:30:18,459 --> 00:30:21,669
and Patricia krenwinkel...
Begins in Los Angeles,
531
00:30:21,751 --> 00:30:23,791
for the Tate and labianca murders.
532
00:30:23,876 --> 00:30:27,326
Reporter: Young girls supposedly
under the spell of a bearded svengali
533
00:30:27,417 --> 00:30:30,037
who allegedly masterminded
the seven murders.
534
00:30:30,125 --> 00:30:32,875
One of the girls was only 16 years old.
535
00:30:32,959 --> 00:30:35,289
Dr. Jordan: The question as to
whether the followers of manson
536
00:30:35,375 --> 00:30:36,915
were victims or villains...
537
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,710
The dynamic is that they are both.
538
00:30:38,792 --> 00:30:42,922
Their victimization,
at the hands of Charles manson,
539
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,040
the brainwashing,
turned them into villains.
540
00:30:46,125 --> 00:30:49,285
Bugliosi: Manson was the only one
that had a motive for these murders,
541
00:30:49,375 --> 00:30:53,705
and that motive was helter skelter.
542
00:30:53,792 --> 00:30:57,252
Helter skelter was his philosophy.
543
00:30:57,334 --> 00:30:59,294
And when those two words
were found printed in blood
544
00:30:59,375 --> 00:31:02,035
at the murder scene,
that's tantamount to manson's
545
00:31:02,125 --> 00:31:05,165
fingerprints being found
at the murder scene.
546
00:31:05,250 --> 00:31:09,670
Rick: And the theory
that bugliosi brilliantly used
547
00:31:09,751 --> 00:31:14,331
was that manson so totally
controlled his followers
548
00:31:14,417 --> 00:31:18,917
that they were little more
than his weapon of choice
549
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,500
and that he would kill people,
550
00:31:20,584 --> 00:31:24,084
using them as the device of destruction.
551
00:31:24,167 --> 00:31:29,417
We had to show that he had
control over the killers,
552
00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:32,710
so that if he gave them
the order to kill,
553
00:31:32,792 --> 00:31:34,172
that they would do that.
554
00:31:34,250 --> 00:31:39,380
And it was just clear
to everyone in the courtroom
555
00:31:39,459 --> 00:31:46,379
that manson still controlled
all the female defendants.
556
00:31:46,459 --> 00:31:50,289
The manson family was camped
out on the sidewalk.
557
00:31:50,375 --> 00:31:54,075
They lived outside the courthouse.
558
00:31:54,167 --> 00:31:56,457
It almost became like a circus.
559
00:31:56,542 --> 00:31:59,082
It was just showtime.
560
00:31:59,167 --> 00:32:02,787
Guinn: Manson he has some of his
followers in the hallways,
561
00:32:02,876 --> 00:32:05,706
passing out leaflets about how,
562
00:32:05,792 --> 00:32:08,172
"these people have no right
to try me."
563
00:32:08,250 --> 00:32:11,790
Shelley: The girls would
come into the courtroom,
564
00:32:11,876 --> 00:32:16,536
smiling and singing a song
that Charlie wrote.
565
00:32:19,959 --> 00:32:23,329
Manson came in one day
with an "x" on his forehead.
566
00:32:23,417 --> 00:32:27,127
He has cut an "x"
between his eyes because,
567
00:32:27,209 --> 00:32:30,669
"society has x'd us out.
568
00:32:30,751 --> 00:32:32,461
We don't count."
569
00:32:32,542 --> 00:32:35,632
Man: The next day, the women
came in with x's on their forehead.
570
00:32:35,709 --> 00:32:40,539
Shelley: And the followers outside
carve x's in their foreheads, as well.
571
00:32:40,626 --> 00:32:44,126
Nobody had ever seen anything like it.
572
00:32:44,209 --> 00:32:46,329
Boy, did they play right into our hands.
573
00:32:46,417 --> 00:32:50,957
Shelley: Manson gave bugliosi
everything he needed...
574
00:32:51,042 --> 00:32:54,132
Living daily proof
that they were following
575
00:32:54,209 --> 00:32:57,959
what he told them to do,
regardless of the consequences.
576
00:32:58,042 --> 00:32:59,792
In the courtroom itself,
577
00:32:59,876 --> 00:33:04,916
the girls essentially had been
told by Charlie to make a scene.
578
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,580
Kay: Manson would say
something in the courtroom,
579
00:33:07,667 --> 00:33:10,037
and then the three women
in unison would get up
580
00:33:10,125 --> 00:33:12,875
and they would repeat what manson said.
581
00:33:12,959 --> 00:33:14,169
What transpired today was this...
582
00:33:14,250 --> 00:33:16,420
The three girls in the case stood up
583
00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:18,830
and turned their back to the court.
584
00:33:18,918 --> 00:33:21,628
There's a constant theme
of disorder in the court
585
00:33:21,709 --> 00:33:22,879
because of all of the antics,
586
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,330
and the judge is always having to order
587
00:33:25,417 --> 00:33:28,077
manson removed from the courtroom.
588
00:33:28,167 --> 00:33:32,167
I'll do whatever it takes
to preserve my life
589
00:33:32,250 --> 00:33:35,960
on the planet earth,
because I am a selfish, bitter,
590
00:33:36,042 --> 00:33:38,632
no-account, vicious snake.
591
00:33:38,709 --> 00:33:41,629
Dr. Jordan: He knows what
he's doing, and at one point,
592
00:33:41,709 --> 00:33:44,669
he offers one of the bailiffs $100,000,
593
00:33:44,751 --> 00:33:47,671
if he can figure out a way for
him to escape, or set him free.
594
00:33:47,751 --> 00:33:50,171
It was really just yet
another courtroom tactic,
595
00:33:50,250 --> 00:33:53,210
where he was trying to show,
"I have so much power."
596
00:33:53,292 --> 00:33:58,332
What he used to do,
he had this hitlerian stare.
597
00:33:58,417 --> 00:34:01,537
That was the stare that was on
the cover of "life" magazine.
598
00:34:01,626 --> 00:34:04,996
He'd turn around and he'd stare
at spectators, you know,
599
00:34:05,083 --> 00:34:07,753
and they'd get up and they'd leave.
600
00:34:07,834 --> 00:34:10,634
Dr. Jordan: When the witness
for the prosecution,
601
00:34:10,709 --> 00:34:13,419
Linda kasabian,
is entering the courtroom,
602
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:17,920
the intimidation by
Charles manson was unmistakable.
603
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,540
He lifted his finger and made
a slicing motion
604
00:34:20,626 --> 00:34:21,916
across his throat,
605
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,420
to send a very clear message to Linda,
606
00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:27,460
"you're going to die for
what you're about to say."
607
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,420
The press gets a hold of
the fact that president Nixon
608
00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:38,790
has actually made a statement,
"Charles manson is guilty."
609
00:34:38,876 --> 00:34:42,416
Manson gets the paper,
stands up in front of the jury.
610
00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:47,210
Headline... extra...
"manson guilty, Nixon declares."
611
00:34:47,292 --> 00:34:49,462
Bugliosi: Threw the trial
into a tizzy, obviously.
612
00:34:49,542 --> 00:34:52,212
There was a motion for a mistrial.
613
00:34:52,292 --> 00:34:56,212
♪♪
614
00:34:56,292 --> 00:34:58,712
Sidner: Former family member
Barbara hoyt is torn
615
00:34:58,792 --> 00:35:01,502
about whether she should
testify against manson.
616
00:35:01,584 --> 00:35:05,254
His followers try to keep her
from talking.
617
00:35:05,334 --> 00:35:07,334
They threatened my family
that what had happened
618
00:35:07,417 --> 00:35:09,497
at Sharon Tate's house
would happen at mine.
619
00:35:09,584 --> 00:35:13,674
She was overdosed with LSD
by another manson follower,
620
00:35:13,751 --> 00:35:17,381
who was trying to keep her
from testifying.
621
00:35:17,459 --> 00:35:21,459
It gave her a bad trip
but didn't kill her.
622
00:35:21,542 --> 00:35:23,002
I knew what to do then.
623
00:35:23,083 --> 00:35:27,543
She testified and was a great witness.
624
00:35:27,626 --> 00:35:29,496
Dr. Jordan: During the
presentation of evidence,
625
00:35:29,584 --> 00:35:32,004
October 5, 1970,
626
00:35:32,083 --> 00:35:35,083
the prosecution is presenting
testimony of a detective,
627
00:35:35,167 --> 00:35:37,577
and Charles manson takes it upon himself
628
00:35:37,667 --> 00:35:39,327
to stand up and demand of the judge
629
00:35:39,417 --> 00:35:41,667
that he wants
to cross-examine the witness.
630
00:35:41,751 --> 00:35:43,751
And before you knew it... bingo...
631
00:35:43,834 --> 00:35:45,754
He was leaping toward the judge.
632
00:35:45,834 --> 00:35:47,584
A bailiff tackled him in midair.
633
00:35:47,667 --> 00:35:50,997
He had a pencil in his hand,
like a knife.
634
00:35:51,083 --> 00:35:52,543
And he yells at the judge,
635
00:35:52,626 --> 00:35:54,206
"in the name of Christian justice,
636
00:35:54,292 --> 00:35:56,712
someone should chop
off your head."
637
00:35:56,792 --> 00:35:59,042
Charles manson is crazy like a fox.
638
00:35:59,125 --> 00:36:02,575
He just loves to mess
with people's minds.
639
00:36:02,667 --> 00:36:04,287
Now, the judge started carrying a
640
00:36:04,375 --> 00:36:08,075
.38-caliber revolver
under his robe in court.
641
00:36:08,167 --> 00:36:14,417
♪♪
642
00:36:18,667 --> 00:36:20,127
The jury hearing the charges
against Charles manson
643
00:36:20,209 --> 00:36:22,579
and three girl members
of his so-called "family"
644
00:36:22,667 --> 00:36:25,377
brought in its verdict this afternoon.
645
00:36:25,459 --> 00:36:29,579
Wiehl: They found him guilty
of all the crimes,
646
00:36:29,667 --> 00:36:32,417
all the conspiracy counts,
all the murder counts.
647
00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:34,880
They were all sentenced to death.
648
00:36:34,959 --> 00:36:43,129
And then Watson, in his trial,
was sentenced to death.
649
00:36:43,209 --> 00:36:47,169
Aren't we all born to die?
650
00:36:47,250 --> 00:36:50,710
Shelley:
Charlie manson shaved his head,
651
00:36:50,792 --> 00:36:55,672
and the followers shaved
their heads in solidarity.
652
00:36:55,751 --> 00:36:58,001
This city is going to be
burning very soon.
653
00:36:58,083 --> 00:36:59,253
This city is coming down.
654
00:36:59,334 --> 00:37:01,134
This city is falling.
655
00:37:01,209 --> 00:37:04,079
Babylon is going to fall.
656
00:37:04,167 --> 00:37:07,247
Sidner: Manson and the others
are placed on death row.
657
00:37:07,334 --> 00:37:10,544
Bugliosi: But, the very next
year, the California supreme court
658
00:37:10,626 --> 00:37:15,376
and the U.S. supreme court set
aside the death penalty.
659
00:37:15,459 --> 00:37:17,039
I mean, if this was not a proper case
660
00:37:17,125 --> 00:37:19,455
for the death penalty, what would be?
661
00:37:19,542 --> 00:37:23,172
How many people would he have to
kill to get the death penalty?
662
00:37:23,250 --> 00:37:25,250
Kay: Everybody on death row
at that time,
663
00:37:25,334 --> 00:37:30,424
including manson
and the three girls and Watson,
664
00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:33,920
became eligible for parole
after seven years.
665
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,250
At a minimum, if justice means
anything in america,
666
00:37:37,334 --> 00:37:40,964
they should spend the rest
of their lives behind bars.
667
00:37:41,042 --> 00:37:42,462
Martley: It was a shock,
668
00:37:42,542 --> 00:37:46,172
and I'm sure it's a shock
to all the victims' families,
669
00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:49,880
because we felt that
they had been put in prison
670
00:37:49,959 --> 00:37:52,329
and that's where they would stay.
671
00:37:54,250 --> 00:37:56,330
Sidner: Shelley Ross produced
a Charles manson
672
00:37:56,417 --> 00:37:59,457
prison interview with nbc's Tom snyder.
673
00:37:59,542 --> 00:38:01,542
If you got out of here,
there are a lot of people
674
00:38:01,626 --> 00:38:03,876
who think you'd go start
killing people again.
675
00:38:03,959 --> 00:38:05,919
"Again"?
Mm-hmm.
676
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,170
Shelley: Manson reaches over to
me, and he said,
677
00:38:09,250 --> 00:38:11,790
"are you going to ask me questions like,"
678
00:38:11,876 --> 00:38:13,706
and he put his hand around my neck,
679
00:38:13,792 --> 00:38:18,712
"is this where I hold the knife
to women's throats?"
680
00:38:18,792 --> 00:38:22,212
It was really creepy.
681
00:38:25,250 --> 00:38:27,330
These murders would never
have taken place
682
00:38:27,417 --> 00:38:29,877
if it had not been for Charles manson.
683
00:38:29,959 --> 00:38:31,459
But I also think you have to realize
684
00:38:31,542 --> 00:38:34,132
that these murders would
probably have not taken place
685
00:38:34,209 --> 00:38:37,249
if the actual killers
did not want to kill.
686
00:38:37,334 --> 00:38:38,924
And he was like the catalyst that brought
687
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,830
that hostility to the surface.
688
00:38:41,918 --> 00:38:47,748
Sidner: Susan atkins died of
brain cancer in prison in 2009.
689
00:38:47,834 --> 00:38:49,884
But five of his former followers
690
00:38:49,959 --> 00:38:52,499
are still behind bars in California...
691
00:38:52,584 --> 00:38:55,174
Charles "Tex" Watson, Leslie Van houten,
692
00:38:55,250 --> 00:38:59,750
Patty krenwinkel, Bruce Davis,
and Bobby beausoleil.
693
00:38:59,834 --> 00:39:03,384
They are struggling to get out
to be on parole,
694
00:39:03,459 --> 00:39:05,919
and that's the sad part of it.
695
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,500
We're still all this time later,
696
00:39:08,584 --> 00:39:12,084
and we're now having to fight
to keep them in prison.
697
00:39:12,167 --> 00:39:15,497
If they got paroled, they'd be
somebody's next-door neighbor,
698
00:39:15,584 --> 00:39:18,924
and I never believed
that they were reformed enough
699
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,500
so that they wouldn't be
a danger, even today.
700
00:39:27,834 --> 00:39:35,634
Every life that Charles manson
touched was hurt in some way.
701
00:39:35,709 --> 00:39:39,999
Martley: To have a family
member murdered is shocking,
702
00:39:40,083 --> 00:39:41,673
and it will never go away.
703
00:39:41,751 --> 00:39:45,001
Roberts: Sharon Tate had made
it, she was a star,
704
00:39:45,083 --> 00:39:48,583
and this incredible tragedy
of being cut down at 26,
705
00:39:48,667 --> 00:39:50,667
it just was horrific.
706
00:39:50,751 --> 00:39:53,331
And her unborn son never got the chance
707
00:39:53,417 --> 00:39:55,417
to experience life at all.
708
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:57,920
The very thought of young women
dressed in black,
709
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,210
armed with sharp knives,
entering the homes
710
00:40:00,292 --> 00:40:02,132
of complete strangers
in the middle of the night,
711
00:40:02,209 --> 00:40:04,879
and mercilessly stabbing them to death
712
00:40:04,959 --> 00:40:07,789
is really so horrendous
a thought that it's difficult
713
00:40:07,876 --> 00:40:09,666
to contemplate a thought like that
714
00:40:09,751 --> 00:40:11,421
for more than a couple moments.
715
00:40:11,500 --> 00:40:14,750
Rosemary labianca's 15-year-old son,
716
00:40:14,834 --> 00:40:16,174
frank struthers,
717
00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:19,040
it had such an effect
on him that for many years,
718
00:40:19,125 --> 00:40:23,825
he lived as a hermit in Colorado
in the mountains,
719
00:40:23,918 --> 00:40:26,498
and he would only come down like once
720
00:40:26,584 --> 00:40:29,424
every three months for provisions.
721
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:32,500
Martley: Every time that word
"manson" comes up,
722
00:40:32,584 --> 00:40:38,084
it brings back these terrible memories.
723
00:40:38,167 --> 00:40:42,127
The infamous criminal cult
leader Charles manson has died.
724
00:40:42,209 --> 00:40:45,249
Manson dead at the age of 83 years old.
725
00:40:45,334 --> 00:40:46,634
California prison officials say
726
00:40:46,709 --> 00:40:48,879
that he died of natural causes on Sunday.
727
00:40:48,959 --> 00:40:51,919
Manson was serving nine
life sentences for murders
728
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,710
carried out by his followers.
729
00:40:55,792 --> 00:40:59,542
Guinn:
Charles manson was born evil.
730
00:40:59,626 --> 00:41:02,496
He spent his life doing horrible things.
731
00:41:02,584 --> 00:41:06,794
There is no excuse for what he became.
732
00:41:06,876 --> 00:41:09,956
Charles manson is literally
one of the worst human beings
733
00:41:10,042 --> 00:41:12,132
that ever walked this planet.
734
00:41:14,709 --> 00:41:17,999
Maybe I should have killed
400 or 500 people.
735
00:41:18,083 --> 00:41:19,923
Then I would have felt better.
736
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,290
I would've felt like I really
offered society something.
737
00:41:23,375 --> 00:41:26,415
♪♪
738
00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:29,380
Not many people know
that Charles manson was a father
739
00:41:29,459 --> 00:41:32,379
who had at least three sons
with three different women.
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His first son committed suicide in 1993,
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reportedly because he couldn't
live with who his father was.
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Charlie's second son
has done everything possible
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to disassociate himself from his father.
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And manson's youngest
purported son, Michael brunner,
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is the baby the killer reportedly had
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with manson family follower Mary brunner.
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Michael was born with Charlie
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and the manson girls there
to help with the delivery.
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Some say Charlie used his teeth
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to cut through the umbilical cord.
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Michael brunner went to court,
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seeking control of his father's estate,
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after the killer's death in 2017.
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Charlie died in prison
without ever admitting his guilt
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in the manson family murders.
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In one expert's opinion,
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his failure to take
responsibility for the deaths
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is glaring proof that Charlie manson
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was evil till his last breath.
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Thanks for watching.
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I'm Donnie wahlberg.